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SORRY, SOMEBODY SHUT SO I CAN TURN ON.
HOW YOU, HOW'S GOING? I SHOULD MY MIC.
I ANYBODY ON ZOOM? PATIENT WHERE YOU HAVE YOUR AUDIO OFF.
SHE'S PICKING UP THE MICROPHONE AND NOT IN THE ROOM.
WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD, UM, WORK SESSION.
UH, TODAY IS, UH, FEBRUARY 21ST, UM, ABOUT 5 23.
AND, UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS THE AGENDA REVIEW.
SO WE'RE GONNA START THE MEETING AT 7:00 PM TOMORROW INSTEAD OF SEVEN 30.
AND, UH, THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS WILL BE, UH, UH, HONORING THE AFRICAN AMERICAN, UM, HISTORY.
UH,
HE ALSO DID SOMETHING VERY NICE FOR THE FRIENDS OF ODELL, UM, WITH SUSAN SEAL ON, ON SLAVERY, WHICH I POSTED ON, UH, THE TOWN WEBSITE.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE LEAF BLOWER, WERE, WERE WE GONNA BE MAKING THE CHANGES? UH, WERE WE GONNA SPLIT THE TOWN IN HALF OR WE GONNA, SO, SO IF THE TOWN BOARD WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT, I WOULD PROPOSE EITHER HOLDING OVER THE RESOLUTIONS TB FOUR AND TB FIVE, OR VOTING IT DOWN BECAUSE, UH, WE FELT THAT THAT WAS A SUBSTANTIAL CHANGE THAT IF WE WERE TO INCLUDE THAT WITHIN THE LAW, WE'D HAVE TO SET ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING AND GET THE LAW ON YOUR DESKS.
ONCE AGAIN, KIND OF START THE PROCESS OVER.
UNLESS WE, UNLESS IT WOULD MAKE SENSE JUST TO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, TRY THEN IF IT TURNS OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBLEMS, WE COULD ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT WE KEEP DELAYING AND DELAYING AND DELAYING.
I MEAN, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHY WOULD THE DAUGHTER OF THE BOARD BE, WOULD YOU WANT TO JUST REMIND EVERYONE THERE IS A SUNSET PROVISION? SO IT WOULD ONLY APPLY FOR ONE YEAR? FOR ONE YEAR FROM, UH, MAY THROUGH DECEMBER, 2023.
I, I'M, I'M NOT IN FAVOR, BUT AS CURRENT IS, I THINK IT'S UNNECESSARILY HARSH ON THE, UH, THE COMPANIES THAT DO THE, UH, LEAVE BLOWING BY HAVING THEM HAVE TWO DIFFERENT AREAS THAT THEY CAN DO ON DIFFERENT DAYS, UH, IT WOULD MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THEIR COMPANY.
WAIT, SO YOU WOULD RATHER I WOULD RATHER DO THE SPLIT.
ANYBODY ELSE? THE SPLIT? I AGREE.
SO THEN WE SHOULD, UH, WHAT SHOULD WE DO? UM, INSTEAD OF VOTING IT DOWN, WHAT MIGHT IT MAKE SENSE TO JUST RENO, YOU KNOW, RE-NOTICE IT AND JUST SAY, WE'RE GOING TO DO THE, WE'RE RECOMMENDING A SPLIT.
IT'S A WHOLE NEW, EITHER, EITHER WAY.
WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO RE-NOTICE THE NEW LAW.
UH, I'LL HAVE IT PROPOSED TO YOU SOON.
SO YOU CAN EITHER TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW OR VOTE IT DOWN.
WHY DON'T WE TAKE IT OFF THERE, JIM.
JUST ONE QUICK THOUGHT ON SPLITTING THE TOWN, BECAUSE I KNOW I WAS AT A MEETING AND THE
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BOARD SAID, IS THERE A CERTAIN STREET THAT CAN SORT OF BISECT THE TOWN AND BE USED? UH, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME THAT WOULD BE LOGICAL.I DID SPEAK TO, UH, EDEDIE WITH THE PARCEL IDS.
HALF THE TOWN, NOT HALF, THERE'S THE EIGHT POINT, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THE NUMBERS NUMBERING SYSTEM, THE GREEN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG'S BROKEN UP IN SEVEN AND EIGHTS.
WE ESTIMATED AT ABOUT MAYBE 60 40.
SO WE DOT THOSE ON A MAP AND SHOW YOU LIKE THAT ROUGH DISTRIBUTION.
UM, WELL MAYBE BASE IT ON, UH, THE SANITATION CALENDAR BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE GET THEIR GARBAGE PICKED UP MONDAYS AND THURSDAYS.
WOULDN'T THAT BE A GOOD IDEA? WOULDN'T NOT BE A GOOD IDEA.
THINK I HEARD THAT IDEA BEFORE ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
THAT'S WHY I, WE HAD THAT IDEA.
IT ALSO, UH, MAKES IT PEOPLE GENERALLY KNOW THEIR SANITATION CAPSULE.
'CAUSE THEY ALL HAVE IT ON THEIR REFRIGERATOR.
ALL HAVE IT ON THEIR REFRIGERATOR.
SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? DO YOU DON'T KEEP IT ON YOUR REFRIGERATOR? YEAH, SO WE ARE WE GONNA HOLD IT OVER? TAKE FROM AGENDA THEN GONNA, IT IT'S UP TO YOU EITHER, EITHER WAY.
YOU COULD VOTE IT DOWN TOMORROW NIGHT OR YOU CAN REMOVE FROM THE AGENDA.
I THINK WE SHOULD REMOVE IT BECAUSE IF WE KEEP, ONCE YOU START VOTING IT DOWN, THEN DOWN.
BUT I DO THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME CONTINUITY.
WE CAN'T HAVE A A SOME A ME, UH, LOCAL LAW THAT GOES TO NOWHERE.
SO MAYBE WE COULD PUT ON THE AGENDA THAT IT'S BEING REVISED AND WE'LL BE REINTRODUCED.
WILL BE REVISED AND REINTRODUCED.
AND THEN MAYBE WE COULD DO, UH, WE COULD PUT UP, YOU KNOW, THE LAW SIGNS, YOU KNOW, JUST SAYING ONCE WE HAVE THE LAW WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, HAVE TWO DIFFERENT SIGNS SAYING, YOU KNOW, LEAFBLOWER LAW, YOU KNOW, NO LEAFBLOWER SAY TUESDAYS AND THURSDAYS AND PUT, PUT IT AROUND HALF TOWN AND YOU THE ONES WOULD BE
WELL, IT DOESN'T EXACTLY SPLIT THAT WAY.
OH NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT WE COULD WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY OF, UH OH, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, YEAH, I JUST, OH, SORRY.
IT JUST, JUST SAID, I'M THINKING OF A YARD SIGN AND YOU SHOULD HAVE BOTH.
AND IT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA NECESSARILY READ SO EASILY ON A SMALL YARD SIGN, BUT I DON'T KNOW.
WE DO A, WE DO AN EMAIL, WE DO AN EMAIL BLAST THE SAME AS WE DO THE, UM, I KNEW THAT WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
LIKE WE DO THIS GARBAGE SCHEDULE, SO WE SEND THAT OUT ONCE A YEAR, BUT THEN THEY DO AN EMAIL BLAST.
KEEP DOING IT AND REMINDING EVERYONE RIGHT, WHAT IT IS.
SO, SO WE KEEP DOING IT ON THE TV.
IS THERE ANY OTHER BILLS OR ANYTHING THAT'S, THAT WE'RE SENDING OUT TOWN Y THE WATER BILLS ON THE AREA SO WE CAN JUST MAKE SURE.
SO NOT TIME WISE, WELL NOT TIME WISE, BUT IN UNINCORPORATED AREA TO SHOW THEM, TO SHOW EXACTLY THE DATES AND AS A REMINDER, CAN WE ADD THAT? CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE BILL? I GUESS WE, WELL NOT EVERY, WELL THEN NOT, NOT EVERYBODY GETS, NOT EVERYBODY'S IN CONSOLIDATED WHAT IT IS.
I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT ANOTHER WAY TO, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE CAN FIGURE IT OUT AN LAST PERIODICALLY IF SENSE EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE ANYWAY.
PEOPLE AREN'T DRIVING TO THE, GOING TO THE EMAIL, GOING TO THE WEBSITE MAIL, EMAILING IT AS WELL.
I THINK THE GOAL IS PROBABLY BECAUSE THIS IS LIKE A CONTINUING EFFORT OF REMINDING PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, NONSTOP.
SO ANYTHING WE DO, YOU KNOW, JUST CONSTANT, CONSTANT REMINDER, YOU KNOW, REMINDER, IF WE COULD DO A ROBO CALL AFTER WE CAST SOMETHING AND WE COULD, WE'LL FIGURE OUT A WAY OF PUBLICIZING IT.
THE SCARSDALE I THINK IS DOING A, HAS DONE A GOOD JOB OF PUBLICIZING, WE COULD ALSO USE THE DIGITAL, UH, SPEED BOARDS, YOU KNOW, WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU PUT THE, THOSE AROUND THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE WILL SEE THAT.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE IT'S GONNA BE, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET A HUNDRED PERCENT COMPLIANCE INITIALLY, BUT PEOPLE WILL GET USED TO IT.
AND MAYBE ON THE MAIN ROADS TO EACH OF THE DIFFERENT SANITATION, UM, AREAS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PUT SIGNS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE YELLOW ZONE, THIS IS THE WHATEVER ZONE JUST FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION, UH, TO THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
AND THEN WE SHOULD HAVE A, YOU KNOW, COUPLE OF MONTHS WHERE WE JUST GIVE WARNINGS.
SO THAT'LL ALSO TELL THEM RIGHT.
AND YOU STILL WANT THE SUNSET PROVISION, RIGHT? A ONE YEAR TRIAL PERIOD? YES.
ANOTHER THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY COULD WORK, YOU KNOW, THOUGH IT WOULD BE TOUGH IS IF
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WE PUT STICKERS ON SAY THE GARBAGE CAMPS, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE THE CREWS, UH, YOU KNOW, PUTTING, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY WE ORDERED A STICKER.I MEAN, EVERYBODY THROWS OUT THEIR GARBAGE AND LET'S SAY THERE WAS A YELLOW STICKER SAYING NEW LAW.
AND THE SANITATION PEOPLE, UH, WOULD, WHEN THEY'RE DOING SAY THE RECYCLING OR THE, OR THE GARBAGE, THEY WOULD PUT IT ON THE, THE CANS.
BRIAN SIMMONS IS BEING INVITED TO THE MEETING TO COMMENT ABOUT.
I'M JUST THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, AFTER A WHILE YOU SEE IT, YOU JUST, IT BECOMES PART OF THE LANDSCAPE AND YOU DON'T PAY ATTENTION TO IT.
SO IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN NECESSARY EXPENSE.
IT'S JUST THE LOGISTICS OF DOING OF ALL THE DIFFERENT GARBAGE CANS.
THE COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN'S POINT, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT WE WANT TO BE UNNECESSARILY RESPONDING TO CALLS OF THIS NATURE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION EVERY TIME.
I'M SURE THERE'S A LOT OF COMPANIES WITH MULTIPLE CUSTOMERS.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT, WHETHER IT'S THE INTERNET, THE MAILER, BUT WHEN WE RESPOND, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO TAKE ENFORCE DIRECTIONS.
THERE WAS VISION THERE FOR THE INITIAL PERIOD OF TIME, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND, AND DON'T THESE LANDSCAPERS HAVE TO BE LICENSED BY THE COUNTY? IT'S, YEAH, BUT THE THING IS THAT YOU'RE GONNA GIVE DIFFERENT COMPANIES.
YOU MIGHT GET SOMEONE LIKE ME THAT'S BLOWING THEIR OWN LEAVES.
THE END OF THE DAY WE SEND THE COP, THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION.
FIRST TIME HERE YOU DIDN'T KNOW, OKAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE NEW ONE, ARE YOU REALLY GONNA CLAIM YOU DIDN'T KNOW? WELL,
WELL THAT'S THE MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE SEND A FLYER, A FLYER TO THE LANDSCAPE COMPANIES AND ASK THEM TO POST IT.
THE REASON I SAY IF THEY'RE LICENSED BY THE COUNTY, WE CAN GET A LIST OF THEM TO SEND MAIL TO.
ANYTHING ELSE, UH, ON THE, ON PO TWO, CAPTAIN CIOS, UH, THE ONE THAT DEALS WITH, UM, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZED IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS IN THE TOWN TO UTILIZE THE GENERAL SERVICES ADMINISTRATION AND N P P GOVERNMENT NATIONAL, UH, BUYING COOPERATIVE TO MAKE FUTURE PURCHASES THAT CONSTITUTE AN AMOUNT THAT CONSTITUTES COMPETITIVE BID.
THE WAY THAT READS IS, THE WAY IT ORIGINALLY READ IT DOESN'T READ IT THAT WAY ANYMORE, WAS THAT IF WE AUTHORIZED THAT WE WOULD BE AUTHORIZING THE PURCHASES WITHOUT ANY FURTHER AUTHORIZATION BY THE TOWN BOARD AS LONG AS THEY WERE DOING IT USING G SS A OR THIS N P P.
WAS THAT THE INTENT? NO, I, I THINK IT WAS, UM, THE, THE WAY YOU PHRASE IT, I THINK IF, IF WE INSERTED MAYBE AN AMOUNT OF MONEY, BUT IF, IF WE FIND WE'RE GONNA BUY A VEHICLE ON GOVERNMENT SURPLUS, UH, OR NOT GOVERNMENT, BUT G SS A, UM, SIMILAR TO NEW YORK STATE CONTRACT, ALL THE COMPETITIVE BIDDING HAS BEEN DONE.
UH, THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH, UH, RESOLUTIONS, UH, CAN TAKE A WHILE.
SO IF WE WERE TO BUY JANITORIAL SUPPLIES OR, OR A WHITEBOARD, WHICH IS ON G S A, IT JUST SAVES US TIME FROM HAVING TO GET A RESOLUTION TO PURCHASE OFF A, UH, G S A CONTRACT OR THIS.
AND HOW DO WE HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT? BECAUSE, WELL, OURS CAN BE EXPENSIVE.
UM, WELL IF YOU PUT A, UH, A DOLLAR AMOUNT LIMIT TO WHAT THEY CAN SPEND ON AND EVERYTHING ELSE WOULD HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THE BOARD.
ANYTHING LIKE WOULD BE A EQUIVALENT AMOUNT OR PER ITEM OR, I THINK IT'S PROBABLY PER ITEM.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN? SO FOR INEXPENSIVE ITEMS, THAT MEANS WE HAVE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, THAT I GUESS THE BIDDING PROCESS AND THERE'S AN ESTABLISHED PRICE WE CAN USE G S A TO JUST BUY IT.
IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE MORE EXPENSIVE, WE STILL HAVE TO COME FOR THE BOARD AND GET THE RESOLUTION.
'CAUSE NONE OF THE PRICES ISN'T IN THERE.
I, I ADDED TO IT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, APPROVED BY THE TOWN JUST TO, SO THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME BREAKS ON THIS.
BUT YOU, UH, IF YOU COULD COME UP WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT, BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S A BLANK CHECK AND I COULD NEVER SUPPORT THAT.
I UNDERSTAND FROM OUR PURCHASING PRACTICES RIGHT NOW, UM, ANY NEW EQUIPMENT OVER $2,000 ENDS UP GOING BEFORE THE BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
THAT'S BEEN SINCE COVID, I BELIEVE.
IF IT'S NOT ON STATE CONTRACT, WELL, ANYTHING OVER $2,000 PETE POINTS OUT TO US.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY GO THROUGH TO US FOR A RESOLUTION, BUT HE POINTS OUT TO US SO THAT THERE IS NO RESOLUTION INVOLVED IN THAT.
SO NORMALLY WITH OUR OPERATING BUDGET FOR EQUIPMENT PURCHASES, I SAID WE'RE GONNA BUY SEVERAL CAMERAS FOR THE DETECTIVE DIVISION.
IF THOSE ARE AVAILABLE ON G SS A, THEN WE WOULDN'T NEED, UM, TO GET A RESOLUTION TO PURCHASE THOSE CAMERAS FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
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'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT G S A IS NOT, HAS NOT BEEN VOTED ON LIKE NEW YORK STATE CONTRACT PRICING HAS FOR US.IT'S JUST ANOTHER COMPETITIVE BIDDING TOOL FOR, FOR US TO MAKE.
I I I I, I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT MAYBE WE HAVE A DISCUSSION AT A WORK SESSION SO WE CAN COME UP WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT AND WE CAN TALK TO PETE AND, UM, RESOLVE THIS.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT CLEARLY DOESN'T CROSS THAT WAY FROM ACROSS THAT WAY.
IN THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION, IT DID SEEM LIKE IT WAS, IT WAS BASICALLY A BLANK CHECK AS LONG AS YOU WERE USING G S A, YOU GOT, YOU COULD BUY A LOT OF EXPENSIVE STUFF ON G S A.
THERE WAS AN ITEM ON THAT N P P GOV CONTRACT THAT WE WERE TRYING TO BUY.
AND THAT N P P GOV IS NOT RECOGNIZED BY PURCHASING, SO TO SPEAK, TO PURCHASE THAT OFF THAT CONTRACT THROUGH COMPETITIVE BIDDING.
SO SPEAKING TO PETE, HE WAS LIKE, WELL, IF WE GET A RESOLUTION THAT SAYS THAT WE CAN BUY OFF THE N P P GOV, UH, SITE JUST LIKE WE DO OFF OF O G SS, NEW YORK STATE, WESTCHESTER COUNTY CONTRACT, THAT TYPE OF THING, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE EXTRA STEPS EVERY TIME WE WANT TO BUY A, A SINGULAR ITEM.
BUT TAKING INTO ACCOUNT LIKE, LIKE YOU SAID, A BLANK CHECK, YOU CAN JUST GO BUY WHATEVER YOU WANT.
RIGHT? NO, I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU THERE.
OKAY, SO WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE HOLD THIS OVER THEN AND DISCUSS IT NEXT TUESDAY.
UM, SO, UH, JOE, IF YOU WOULD, WITH N OR NOT, UM, EXCUSE ME.
TB ONE IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE RETENTION OF A GROUP CALLED C G R TO ANALYZE THE POTENTIAL IMPACT ON THE REMAINING AREA OF THE TOWN AS A RESULT OF INCORPORATION OF A NEW VILLAGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE DONE MY RESEARCH.
I, I BELIEVE THAT THIS IS LEGAL AND THAT IT IS NECESSARY FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO LOOK AT THE FISCAL AND SERVICE IMPACT ON THE REMAINING AREA OF THE TOWN, SHOULD THERE BE ANY INCORPORATION.
UM, AND THIS COMPANY, UM, HAS PROVIDED A A DOLLAR AMOUNT, UM, AND, AND CAN FINALIZE THAT REPORT AND THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN IT.
UM, DO YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION? WELL, I, I AM CONCERNED ABOUT IT, ABOUT THE, UM, ABOUT THE DETERMINATION BY THE CONTROLLER NEW YORK STATE CONTROLLER.
AND I REALIZE IT'S BIFURCATING IT, BUT I'M WONDERING IF IT, IF I, I'VE DONE, YOU KNOW, SOME RESEARCH IN CONTROLLER OPINIONS ON, UH, LIMITED TO THE PARTICULAR, UH, FACTS OF THE OPINION, AND THEY DO NOT NECESSARILY, UH, SET LEGAL, UH, YOU KNOW, PRECEDENCE.
UM, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, COURTS COULD GIVE THAT COULD GIVE OPINIONS AS MUCH WEIGHT AS ON AS THEY WANT.
SO ALSO EVERY CONTROLLER'S OPINION AND, UM, ON THE WEBSITE STARTS WITH THIS OPINION REPRESENTS THE VIEWS OF THE OFFICE OF THE STATE CONTROLLER AT THE TIME IT WAS RENDERED.
OPINIONS MAY NO LONGER REPRESENT THOSE VIEWS.
UM, SO THIS OPINION THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, UH, PROPONENTS UH, OPPONENTS OF THIS ISSUE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HAVE, UH, HAVE, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHTED WAS FROM 1980 AND THERE WAS A DIFFERENT CONTROLLER, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES AT, YOU KNOW, AT THAT TIME.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY PERSONAL OPINION THAT THAT OPINION, YOU MAY NOT NECESSARILY, THERE'S NO, I CAN'T FIND A STATUTE, YOU KNOW, THAT SAYS THE TOWN CAN'T DO, CAN'T DO THIS.
THE OTHER THING THAT I ALSO FEEL IS THAT WE REALLY HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY AS A TOWN TO PREPARE FOR THE EVENTUALITY OF THE POSSIBILITY OF INCORPORATION.
AND THIS WILL HELP US FIGURE OUT THE FINANCES, SOME OF THE FI UH, FISCAL, YOU KNOW, ISSUES.
AND IT WILL MAKE ANY TRANSITION, UH, YOU KNOW, SMOOTHER UNLESS, YOU KNOW, CHAOTIC BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE STAFF
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HERE, UM, THAT BASICALLY WOULD HAVE THE TIME TO HELP PREPARE FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THAT TRANSITION.SO THIS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MET WITH, YOU KNOW, THE COMPANY, UH, YOU KNOW, NOBODY SAID, TELL US, YOU KNOW, COME UP WITH AN OPINION AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR.
HE SAID, WE WANT TO HEAR AN HONEST OPINION AS TO THE, THE FINANCIAL IMPACTS.
WE'RE NOT TELLING YOU WHAT TO SAY, BUT YOU KNOW, WE REALLY, WE NEED TO KNOW INFORMATION SO WE COULD DO WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, SO WE COULD DO THE WORK EXCEPT THAT IT PRECLUDES ANY KIND OF NEGOTI NEGOTIATION THAT COULD NOT PRECLUDES.
BUT IF THERE IS ANY KIND OF NEGOTIATION FOR SERVICES, THEN IS THAT GOING TO BE FACTORED IN? AND HOW DOES THAT THEN IMPACT AND HOW DOES THAT NOT INCLUDE? WELL, I, I, WE DON'T HAVE, FIRST OF ALL, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A SLIPPERY SLOPE KIND OF THING.
WE ASKED THE TOWN ATTORNEY FOR HIS OPINION AND HE GAVE US HIS OPINION.
AND, AND I WOULD SAY THAT I, I AGREE WITH SUPERVISOR THAT IF THE CONTROLLER'S OPINIONS ARE ADVISORY OPINIONS AND I HAVE DONE FURTHER RESEARCH INTO TOWN AND VILLAGE LAW, AND I DON'T SEE ANY PARTICULAR CASE OR ANY PARTICULAR STATUTE THAT WOULD STOP YOU FROM YOU, UH, MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS REPORT.
UM, IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT THE SERVICE, POTENTIAL SERVICE AGREEMENTS, UM, WITH THE VILLAGE, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT STILL IS LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL SERVICE AND, UM, FISCAL IMPACT ON THE TOWN.
AND IT WOULD BE ALLOWED, I, I WOULDN'T, UH, DO THE REPORT SPECIFICALLY FOR, UH, THE, THE, THE NEW VILLAGE TO SAY WHAT THEIR NEW TAX BILLS WILL BE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE, THE REPORT IS MEANT TO BE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE REMAINING TOWN.
WELL, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA NOW? YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING THAT BECAUSE OF THE TYPO ON THE LAST AGENDA, IT READ A HUNDRED THOUSAND PEOPLE BILL BY THE EARTHQUAKE AND IT WAS ACTUALLY 11,000.
AND WELL, WE KNOW THAT UNFORTUNATELY THAT NUMBER MAY ACTUALLY, MAY, MAY, MAY BE CLOSE TO CORRECT.
HOW MANY, WAS IT A THOUSAND TODAY, DO YOU KNOW? I DON'T KNOW IT WAS TODAY, BUT AS OF AS OF, UH, WHEN WAS THIS PUT TOGETHER? FRIDAY NIGHT OR SATURDAY? IT WAS 45,000.
AND THEN HE HAD AN AFTERSHOCK TODAY OR YESTERDAY PUT A 6.5.
YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THE POLICE HAVE A BUDGET? JUST A LITTLE ONE.
NO, I THINK I PASSED THE WHOLE FILE.
LATEST AND GREATEST KEN'S COPY.
I JUST NEED TO GIVE IT BACK TO COUNCILMAN JONES.
I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEIR NUMBERS
SO WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING IT, EVERYTHING WAS YEP.
I EMAILED THIS TO YOU EARLIER TODAY.
I, I DID LIKE A DRAFT WITH, UH, ROBERTA.
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SO I'LL SEND EVERYBODY THE DRAFT.WE MADE SOME CUTS, BUT YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO BRIAN AND, UM, AND, AND ROBERTA AND SOME THINGS WILL BE DEFERRED IN PUBLIC WORKS TO, UH, 2024.
BUT I'M SAYING THESE ARE INITIAL RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I'M NOT READY YET TO SUBMIT THE PROPOSED CAPITAL BUDGET.
BUT I'LL, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU MY INITIAL THOUGHTS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK WE COULD KEEP, BEFORE WE FINALIZE AND PRESENT ANYTHING, THEN THE BOARD COULD.
SO ARE THERE CUT SINCE LAST WEEK? YES.
SO WHAT, WHAT WE, WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
THEY'RE IN, THERE'S, AND IT, IT'S, IT'S IN THIS PACKAGE THAT I JUST GAVE YOU.
THIS IS WHAT WE, WE, THIS, THIS IS LIKE THE LATEST.
OH, I THOUGHT THIS, THIS IS A, A VERY, VERY PRELIMINARY DRAFT, RIGHT? UH, SO THIS IS NOT THE PROPOSED THIS WHAT WE'RE BUDGET, THIS IS WHAT I, I WAS SPEAKING TO ROBERTA AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THE BOND RATING THAT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, GO, YOU KNOW, GO OVER THAT.
THERE'S SOME THINGS I WOULD DEFER TO NEXT YEAR.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
AND I SAID I, I'D RATHER SHARE IT WITH THE TOWN BOARD BEFORE I FORMALLY SUBMIT SO IT COULD CHANGE, RIGHT.
BUT WE, BUT WE DISCUSSED AND WENT OVER DIFFERENT ITEMS IN THE AMOUNTS.
I DON'T SEE UNDERWRITING CROSSOUTS HERE AS TO WHAT JAY? NO.
SO THEN YOU KNOW WHAT, MAYBE YOU COULD JUST, YOU COULD, WHY DON'T WE, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU COULD PRESENT CHANGED.
AND SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENTAL REQUEST COLUMN AND THE 2023 RECOMMENDED, THAT WILL SHOW YOU WHAT HAS CHANGED.
'CAUSE WHAT WAS REQUESTED IS WHAT WE ORIGINALLY ALL HAD IN THERE.
AND, AND THE RECOMMENDED IS, AND WE INTEND TO MOVE FORWARD.
YOU KNOW, LET ME JUST MENTION, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS DOWN AN ENGINEER, ACTUALLY I THINK TWO ENGINEERS RIGHT NOW.
AND THERE'S THINGS THAT THEY ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO, EVEN IF, IF THEY, EVEN IF THEY WANT IS, AND IN FACT, YOU KNOW, I STILL HAVE TO MAKE SOME CHANGES.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, BABBITT COURT, WE HAD ORIGINALLY PUT IN EVERYTHING, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA GET NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE NOTIFIED IF WE GOT THE AWARD UNTIL, YOU KNOW, LATER THIS YEAR, THEN WE HAVE TO GO TO BID.
SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT EVERYTHING IN THE 2023 CAPITAL BUDGET WHEN WE'RE NOT.
IT'S IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE MONEY TO BE SPENT IN 2023.
MOST OF IT'S GONNA BE SPENT IN 2024.
THERE WERE SOME VEHICLES THAT, YOU KNOW, I I THOUGHT WE COULD BASICALLY DEFER TO 2024.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST, THESE ARE JUST INITIAL THOUGHTS.
BUT WHAT WE DISCUSSED AT THE LAST TOWN BOARD AT THE WORK SESSION, THE LAST THAT I DON'T SEE WHAT WE DISCUSSED, THAT'S CROSSED OUT.
NO, THIS IS NOT, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD LET ME JUST FINISH.
SO WE CAN SEE WHAT WE HAD A DISCUSSION ON AND THEN WHAT WAS BEING CUT OUT.
OKAY, SO, SO THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTAL AND THEN WHAT HAS CHANGED JUST AS THE CROSS OUT SO WE CAN SEE, 'CAUSE I CAN'T DETERMINE, WHY DON'T WE, UH, GIVE EVERYBODY THAT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE NEXT TUESDAY, MAYBE YOU COULD DO A SHEET AND SAY WE, WE DEFERRED FOR EXAMPLE, YOU KNOW, WE DEFERRED, UM, A LIST OF WHAT WAS DEFERRED.
NOW THE COURT, UH, WE'RE GONNA PUT SOME FUNDS IN FOR THIS YEAR, BUT WE DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY OF, UM, IMPLEMENTING BOTH.
YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE IT IN THE 2024.
RIGHT? I'LL, I'LL MAKE THE LIST.
SO TAKE WHATEVER DOCUMENT WE HAVE BEFORE US AND THEN DO CROSS OUTS OR PUSH INS, YOU KNOW, AND TRACK CHANGES SO WE CAN SEE THE, TRYING TO LOOK THROUGH TO DO THE, I'M GETTING CONFUSED.
OKAY, SO YOU WANT ME TO UNDO WHAT I DID AND THEN GO BACK AND REDO IT ALL? NO, WITH THE CHANGE, YOU HAVE THE ORIGINAL ONE THAT YOU DID BEFORE, AND THEN WHAT YOU MADE CHANGES ON JUST CROSS OUT.
SO WE CAN SEE THIS IS LIKE YOU, LIKE YOU, THE CONTRACT CHANGE WHAT YOU WANT US TO DO, WHICH IS GO TAKE THE PREVIOUS ONE AND COMPARE IT TO THE NEW ONE AND SEE WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS.
TAKE THE ORIGINAL ONE AND LOOK AT YOUR NEW ONE AND SAY, OKAY, THIS ONE HAS CHANGED FROM $200,000 TO 200.
SO YOU'RE GONNA CROSS OUT THE 200,000.
AND WITH TRACK CHANGES SHOWING TWO 50.
OKAY, SO ON THE, ON THE 2023 REQUESTED VERSUS RECOMMENDED, DOES THAT MEAN THAT FOR ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT
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WHERE THERE WAS NOTHING REQUESTED, WE'RE NOW ADDING $235,000.WHY WAS NOTHING REQUESTED? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS, HOLD ON NINE.
NO, ON PAGE NINE IT SHOWS NOTHING WAS REQUESTED.
AND NOW THERE, OKAY, THAT, THAT'S A MISTAKE ON MY PART.
'CAUSE IT WAS ALWAYS REQUESTED THAT SHE 35, IT JUST, IT WASN'T BROUGHT FORWARD TO THAT FRONT SUMMARY PAGE.
IF YOU GO TO PAGE 10, YOU'LL SEE THAT IT WAS THERE 2 35.
ALRIGHT, SO BEGIN STARTING WITH THE ALS OR ALL THERE, UH, A TYPE ONE AMBULANCE FOR $235,000.
UM, AMBULANCES ARE NORMALLY PURCHASED FROM B EVERY FIVE YEARS.
HISTORICALLY WE PURCHASED ONE FROM A, UM, WITH OUR CORE VOLUME, HEAVY DUTY VERSION IS, IS NECESSARY.
UH, REPLACEMENT OF THESE VEHICLES IS CONSISTENT WITH THE VEHICLE REPLACEMENT PROGRAM.
THE TOWN IS FOLLOWED IN THE PAST, UH, THE HEAVY DUTY VERSION, IT'S A PICKUP FOUR WHEEL DRIVE DIESEL.
UM, IT'S COMMERCIAL GRADE AND IT WILL LAST LONGER.
WE'VE BEEN DOING REUSE EVERY, UM, SO OFTEN, BUT THERE'S ONLY SO MANY THAT YOU CAN DO BEFORE A VEHICLES EXCEEDED AS EXPECTED LIFE.
ARE YOU ON THE PAGE? THAT'S PAGE, THAT'S ON PAGE ONE.
THE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT PAGE FOUR.
I'M SORRY, I STARTED WITH THE ADVANCED LIFE.
THE, THE ONE, UM, IT'S ON THE PAGE.
ENTIRE PAGE, PAGE, PAGE, PAGE TWO.
I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR BRIAN.
WHAT DO WE, IT USED TO BE THAT WE HAD A CASCADING PROGRAM WHERE POLICE WOULD GET THE CARS IN GOOD SHAPE AND THEN WHEN YOU WERE BASICALLY DONE WITH THEM, THEY WOULD, WE WOULD GIVE THEM TO A, TO ANOTHER DEPARTMENT TO USE.
UH, UM, AND EVEN MAYBE CASCADE DOWN TO A, YOU KNOW, LOWER LEVEL, UH, LOWER LEVEL AFTER THAT.
WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THEM NOW ARE, ARE WE GETTING RID OF THEM AFTER YOU ARE DONE WITH THEM IN GENERAL WITH THE INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS.
BRIAN, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE CARS? IS THAT STILL HAPPENING AT ALL? IT IS TO, TO SOME DEGREE.
I THINK WHAT WE'VE FOUND IN THE PAST WAS THAT, UH, A LOT OF THOSE VEHICLES FROM THE POLICE DEPART WE'RE NOT HEARING YOU, UH, WOULD GET PASSED DOWN TO THE, LIKE ENGINEERING, THE COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
UM, BUT THEY ALSO REQUIRED A LOT OF MAINTENANCE.
AND SO WE'RE PUTTING A LOT OF PARTS AND WE WERE PUTTING A LOT OF, SPENDING A LOT OF TIME ON
UH, SO MAYBE, MAYBE LET'S TRY THAT.
CAN YOU HEAR ME TEST? WE STILL CAN HOLD ON.
HE SAID HE IS GONNA COME DOWN.
THIS IS, HE'S GONNA, HE JUST SAID HE'S COMING DOWN.
CAN I, YEAH, THERE'S GONNA BE NO SOUND COMING OUT OF THOSE SPEAKERS UNLESS I TURN ON MY AUDIO AND I CAN'T TURN ON MY AUDIO IF YOU SPEAKERS, BUT I DON'T SEE ANY SPEAKERS HERE.
THAT'S WHY I'M GONNA HAVE TO TURN ON MY AUDIO.
OKAY, LEMME JUST SAY, LET'S SAY SEE RECORDING.
WE CAN PUT HIM ON SPEAKER PHONE.
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WELL, WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE COMING IN ON THE ZOOM, SO THAT'S, DOES SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE YOUR AUDIO ON? BECAUSE WE HAVE NO SPEAKERS IN THE ROOM.YEAH, WE CAN MAYBE HEAR YOU NOW.
CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME NOW? SO, YEAH.
SO TO THE GREATEST EXTENT POSSIBLE, WE TRY AND, AND PASS THE VEHICLES DOWN FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, WE'LL USE THOSE VEHICLES FOR, FOR VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS.
BUT WE DID FIND, HOWEVER, IN THE PAST WAS THERE'S A LOT OF MAINTENANCE WITH SOME OF THOSE VEHICLES.
'CAUSE THEY ARE VERY HEAVILY USED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IT'S NOT SO MUCH THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF MILEAGE ON THEM, BUT THEY'RE BEING USED 24.
SO, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR.
SO FOR THE, SOME OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS THAT NECESSARILY RELY UPON THESE VEHICLES VERY HEAVILY, UH, WE FOUND THERE WAS A LOT OF MAINTENANCE ISSUES WITH THEM AND A LOT OF LABOR ON OUR PART.
SO IT'S A BALANCE, I GUESS IS THE BEST WAY TO DESCRIBE IT.
THE VEHICLES THAT WE CAN REUTILIZE, WE TRY TO, AND THE ONES THAT WE CAN'T, THOSE ARE THE ONES WE GET RID OF.
AND THEN UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO, UH, PURCHASE NEW VEHICLES FOR THE DEPARTMENTS.
AND ALSO TO NOTE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE HAD OPPORTUNITIES LIKE WITH, UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION AS WELL AS WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WHERE WE ARE ABLE TO GET ELECTRIC VEHICLES.
UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT ALSO.
SO IT'S VERY HARD TO HAVE A, A POLICE VEHICLE THAT'S ALL ELECTRIC.
UM, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO USE THOSE VEHICLES IN OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
CAN I ASK, ARE YOU DAVID TEKA OR LOUIS ROW OR ZACH PEARSON? I'M ZACH PEARSON.
DO YOU HAVE YOUR AUDIO OFF? I DON'T MEAN MUTED.
I MEAN, DISCONNECT FROM AUDIO.
MEANING, MEANING YOU'RE DISCONNECTED FROM AUDIO.
THERE'S NO REASON WHY I SHOULD GET FEEDBACK.
NOTHING'S GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW.
I'M, I'M ON MUTE AND I'M, UH, YOU HAVE, I'M ON MUTE IN MY COMPUTER AUDIO.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE BEFORE, UH, I'M JUST LOOKING IT OVER YOUR JACKET IN CASE WE NEED TO SEE GOTCHA LAPTOPS IN THERE.
THE ONLY TIME YOU GET FEEDBACK IS WHEN THERE TWO.
SO WHAT ARE WE WAITING FOR? YOU CAN OBJECTION.
THERE'S GOTTA BE A PROBLEM WITH THE
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I'M STILL DOING IT BECAUSE ZACH'S IN THE, NOT THE PANELIST I BELIEVE, RIGHT? YEAH, I'M NOT, I CAN'T EVEN KNOW.THE WAY, THE WAY ZOOM WORKS IS EVEN THOUGH YOU MUTE YOURSELF, IS THAT JUST YOU, IT HAS AN ACTIVE MICROPHONE AND YOU'LL KNOW THAT BECAUSE IT'LL SAY IF YOU'RE SPEAKING, IT'LL TELL YOU YOU ARE MUTED.
THE ONLY WAY IT KNOWS YOU ARE MUTED IS BECAUSE THE MICROPHONE IS WORKING.
IT'S JUST NOT GOING THROUGH AND IT CAUSES THE FEEDBACK.
HE AND I BOTH, BOTH, UM, JUST GOT OFF ZOOM.
SO DO YOU WANNA TRY AGAIN? YEAH, LET'S TRY ONE MORE TIME.
YOU SAYING GOOD? YOU SAYING GOOD? SAYING GOOD.
ALL NOT PICKING UP FROM THE ROOM.
NO, APPARENTLY THE, WE HAVE MICS.
WE'LL JUST HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT FOR TONIGHT.
AS YOU WERE SAYING, THE NEXT TIME IS EARLY VOTING.
WE'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH GOING BACK TO THE MATTER WITH THE VEHICLE'S AT, WE DIDN'T REPLACE CARS DURING COVID, SO WHEN THERE WERE CARS BACKLOG, RIGHT? AND THEN THE VEHICLES THAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GET LAST YEAR IN MAY, IF I'M NOT CORRECT, MAY WE STILL DIDN'T GET IT.
SO WE HAVE VEHICLES THAT WE'RE USING THAT WE ARE GOING TO NEED TO REPLACE, UM, THAT WE NOT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO REPLACE, THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF, UM, ADMIN VEHICLES AND PATROL VEHICLES.
BUT PART OF THIS IS WE ARE WHO WE ARE NOW AND WE NEED TO ACTUALLY MAKE THESE PURCHASES BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE BEYOND THE USE OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE WITH SEVERAL OF THE CARS.
AND WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR VEHICLES WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO PURCHASE.
DID YOU SAY YOUR CAR IS USED? DIESEL? I'M SORRY? DID YOU SAY YOUR CAR IS USED DIESEL? NO, THE AMBULANCE, THE HEAVY AMBULANCE.
THE, THE OTHER VEHICLES RIGHT NOW.
AND HISTORICALLY WE WOULD ADD EIGHT A YEAR AND ESSENTIALLY WE HAVEN'T ADDED ANY IN SEVERAL YEARS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO MAKE THESE PURCHASES.
IN TERMS OF ANY OF THESE VEHICLES, ARE THERE ANY VEHICLES, UM, IN YOUR PROPOSED CAPITAL BUDGET THAT COULD BE DEFERRED TILL THE 2024 CAPITAL BUDGET? THAT, THAT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF IT THE YEAR LATER, UM, IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE END OF THE WORLD.
THE JOHN DEERE CROSSOVER UTILITY VEHICLE WE'RE REQUESTING THAT WOULD AT LEAST, UH, ENABLE US TO MAINTAIN OUR NORMAL, YOU KNOW, FUNCTIONS THAT HAS ITS USES AND YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A USE FOR IT, BUT IF WE WERE GOING TO HOLD OFF ON ONE, THAT WOULD BE THE ONE TO HOLD OFF ON.
YEAH, I THINK THE CONCERN, AT LEAST I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT AT LEAST FOR D P W IS EVERYTHING WE'RE HEARING, A LOT OF THESE VEHICLES YOU PLACE AN ORDER, WE'RE STILL WAITING MONTHS UNTIL THE VEHICLES ARE ULTIMATELY AVAILABLE.
SO TO PUSH IT OFF FOR ANOTHER YEAR DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THE VEHICLES ARE GONNA BE READY THAT NEXT YEAR.
THAT JUST MEANS THAT'S WHEN YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO PLACE THE ORDER.
SO THEY VERY WELL, THEY COULDN'T BE, COULD POSSIBLY THEN NOT BE READY FOR ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, COUPLE MONTHS AFTER THAT.
SO BY HAVING, YOU KNOW, OR BEING ABLE TO AT LEAST PLACE AN ORDER NOW AT LEAST THAT SECURES SOME VEHICLES, HOPEFULLY BY YEAR'S END ON SIDE.
DO YOU PAY, DO WE PAY UP FRONT THE, WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH A PURCHASE ORDER WITH THE, SO WE DON'T PAY FOR IT, BUT WE ESTABLISH A PURCHASE ORDER TO THE DEALERS.
BUT IN ORDER TO ESTABLISH THAT PURCHASE ORDER, YOU NEED TO HAVE THE FUNDS IN PLACE.
SO WE CAN'T PLACE AN ORDER UNTIL THOSE FUNDS ARE ALLOCATED AND EVERYTHING IS SECURED.
AND THEN AFTER WE GET THE VEHICLE, THEN THAT'S WHEN WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, PAY FOR IT.
YEAH, IT'S, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHAT'S ON THE, OOPS, WHAT'S WRITTEN, RIGHT? THE LICENSE PLATE READERS, WHICH I KNOW ARE IMPORTANT.
ARE THERE ANY GRANTS, UH, THAT ARE AVAILABLE? I, I REMEMBER ONE YEAR INITIALLY, I THINK WE GOT SOME FUNDS FROM THE DA'S OFFICE FOR THAT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
CAN
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A NUMBER OF LICENSE PAY READERS UP THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.UM, THERE'S NOTHING I'M AWARE OF RIGHT NOW OF GRANT FUNDING FOR THIS BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE REST OF THE, THE STATE IS VERY ACTIVE IN THIS FIELD, SO IT'S NOT NOVEL ANYMORE, BUT EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL.
SO WE DID WHAT WAS THE, YOU HAVE HERE, UM, IN YOUR LIST, PAUL, IT SAYS 5 20 23 POLICE SS U V P P V FOUR WHEEL DRIVE VEHICLES AND THE INITIAL ASK WAS 2 75, YOU HAVE 2 25 AND, UM, YEAH, SEE DIDN'T WE HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT, SO HOW DID WE ARE BRINGING IT DOWN, BUT NOW WE'RE PUTTING IT BACK UP.
DAN, DAN AND I HAD A CONVERSATION AND, AND I FORGET WHAT THE $50,000 WAS, BUT WE WERE LIKE, OKAY, WE CAN BRING IT DOWN BY 50 50,000, WHICH WE DID, WHICH IS WHAT'S IN HERE.
AND NOW HE'S SAYING WE NEED TO BUMP IT BACK UP TO 2 75.
DID WE MISS THE ORDER? UH, THERE'S CERTAIN ITEMS OF YEAR THAT YOU CAN ORDER CARS.
THE NEXT ORDER WON'T BE TOWARDS, UM, LATE SUMMER, WHICH ENDS UP, MEANING THAT THESE VEHICLES WILL PROBABLY WON'T BE DELIVERED UNTIL JANUARY MAYBE.
UM, AND WE'RE JUST GOING CONTINUE TO RUN INTO THE ISSUES WITH, WITH OUR CARS, UM, THE LONGER, THIS LONGER THIS TAKES.
BUT IT ALSO SAYS THAT INSTEAD OF SAYING THE FIVE MARKED FOUR WHEEL DRIVE POLICE PURSUIT VEHICLES, IT SAYS A THREE MARKED FOUR WHEEL DRIVE POLICE.
SO WE NEED TO CHANGE THAT TO FIVE.
OKAY, NOW YOU GOT ME CONFUSED.
SO WHAT ARE YOU READING FROM? SO WHAT DO, SO THE, THE, SHE'S ON PAGE FOUR.
SHE'S, THAT'S, I'M READING ON PAGE FOUR, TWO AND SAYS NO, BUT, BUT WHEN, WHEN THE, WHEN THE CHIEF AND THE, THE LIEUTENANT WALKED IN.
DID I GET IT RIGHT? I ALWAYS MIX IT.
I KNEW THAT WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH IT.
UM, WALKED IN, THEY HANDED OUT THE SHEEP.
SO I WAS DOING, I WAS CROSS-REFERENCING THE SHEET.
NO, THIS IS THE SHEEP, THIS IS PART OF PAUL'S HOLD PACKAGE.
THIS IS WHAT I'M READING RIGHT NOW.
WHAT IS THIS? THIS IS THE MISTAKE.
SO, SO SO NOW, SO NOW I SHOULD BE ON THE, OKAY.
SO THAT WAS LOOKING AT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING.
SO YOU SEE IN THE END IT'S FIVE FOR 2 75.
I JUST WAS READING, I'M READING FROM HERE AND I WAS JUST LIKE, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENT? GOTCHA.
I JUST MADE AND THE INCREASE IN PRICE WAS, UH, THE POLICE CAR WENT UP $9,000 FROM 2022 TO 2023.
DID YOU GET ANYTHING EXTRA FOR IT? NO.
AND WE PUT OFF IT'S GONNA GET MORE EXPENSE OVER DELIVERY DATES.
NO, BUT READING IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, LIKE CAR PRICES ARE GONNA STUCK GOING DOWN.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY'RE GONNA GO DOWN.
AND THE INTEREST RATES WILL GO UP.
MOVING MORE TO THE SOFTWARE OR WE'RE SKIPPING AROUND A LITTLE BIT.
UM, BUT REGARDING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SOFTWARE, THIS IS ALL EMERGENCY SERVICES.
THE COMPUTER AID DISPATCH, THE RECORDS MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, MOBILE UNIT SERVICE WORKSTATION, UM, THE ALARM BILLING, WHICH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES FOR ITSELF.
B WE JUSTICE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE TO MAINTAIN, ESSENTIALLY THE OPERATING SYSTEMS ALL HAVE TO BE UPGRADED, DATA MIGRATED AND, UM, AND TO BE UPGRADED 10 YEARS AGO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO AND THIS IS THE COST, BUT IT'S NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN FUNCTION AND OBVIOUSLY THE 9 1 1 SYSTEM ON COMPUTER SYSTEMS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MORE ELECTRONIC RECORDS THAN PAPER AT THIS POINT, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND I THINK THAT THIS IS THE KEY SENTENCE.
ALL CURRENT SERVERS HAVE, YOU DON'T, THAT YOU DON'T WANNA, YOU DON'T WANNA SAY THAT I SEE WINDOWS 2008.
YEAH, WELL YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T SAY THAT 'CAUSE THERE'S SO MANY VULNERABILITIES WITH THAT, WHICH WE'VE NOW JUST PUT OUT THERE.
IT'S, IT'S SHOCKING THAT THAT'S
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THE SERVER WE'RE USING ANYWAY.OUR BACKUP SERVERS ARE VIRTUALIZED.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE.
BUT WE JUST HAVE TO, THE PRIMARY ONES WE HAVE TO UPDATE.
I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT UPDATE.
THE THING WE DIDN'T TOUCH ON IS NORMAL COMMUNICATION SIDE AND CAMP.
IF YOU WANT TO JUST BREAK THAT DOWN, GET A LITTLE MORE FAMILIAR.
WE HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE SITES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN THAT, UM, HAVE OUR RADIO EQUIPMENT, UH, AND EMERGENCY FOR STATE POLICE, UH, COUNTY POLICE OURSELVES.
THESE ARE ALARMS THAT WILL GO IN.
UH, THE ROOMS ARE KEPT COOL AND DRY.
IF THE AIR CONDITIONING SHUTS DOWN, WE HAVE A HIGH TEMPERATURE THAT CAN DAMAGE THE EQUIPMENT AND CAUSE OUR EQUIPMENT TO FAIL.
THIS TRIGGERS IN OUR ALARM AT HEADQUARTERS TO ADVISE US THERE'S A PROBLEM SO WE CAN GET SOMEONE OUT THERE IMMEDIATELY TO, UH, ADDRESS THE ISSUE BEFORE IT BECOMES AN EMERGENCY.
ARE THERE ANY, UH, THINGS IN YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET THAT YOU WON'T HAVE THE TIME, UH, TO IMPLEMENT IN 2023? YOU, YOU, ALL THESE REQUESTS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL SHOVEL READY PROJECTS.
YOU KNOW, THE PURCHASE ORDERS ARE READY TO BE WHAT THE TERM OF ART.
SO THE ONLY IS THAT EVERYTHING? YES, IT ONLY POSSIBLE CUT.
YOU WERE THE JOHN DEERE CROSSOVER DEER.
BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL TAKE A LOOK AGAIN MM-HMM.
WHAT ARE WE USING? FOOT PARKS.
YOU'RE NOT GOING IN THERE WITH YOUR, UH, YOUR SEDANS NOW WE'RE, WE'RE HIKING IN WITH THE EQUIPMENT.
YOU'RE HIKING IN WITH EQUIPMENT OR IF ANOTHER AGENCY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO FIRE TO, UH, WESTCHESTER COUNTY SAFETY CONTROL TO SEE IF THEY HAVE A RESOURCE FOR US.
BUT RIGHT NOW IT'S REALLY JUST CARRYING EQUIPMENT IN, CARRYING PEOPLE OUT.
HOW OFTEN DO YOU HAVE THESE INSTANCES? THE PARK? I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE THE, THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW.
I I KNOW THERE'LL BE, UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT'S ADDED MORE TRAILS SINCE COVID.
UM, SO MORE PEOPLE ARE, ARE OUT IN THE WOODS, DIFFERENT AREAS, UH, THROUGHOUT TOWN BRIDGE, ROAD PARK, UH, AND SOME OTHER AREAS.
SO, UM, JUST BY NATURE I'VE INCREASED HIKING, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE MORE MEDICAL EMERGENCIES.
SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT NUMBER, MAKE A, SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT NUMBER SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THIS IS, WE SHOULD BE HOLDING US OVER BECAUSE I DON'T, WE DON'T WANNA BE, WE DON'T WANNA BE IN A SITUATION THAT WE CAN'T ASSIST, SO WE CAN'T, WE ONLY NEED ONE.
HOW OFTEN WOULD THAT HAVE YOU FOUND THAT IF NEEDED TO USE THAT? THAT WAS PAUL'S QUESTION.
PARDON ME? THAT WAS PAUL'S QUESTION.
I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
NO, BUT THEN HE ADDED IN THAT WE'RE ADDING MORE AND MORE TRAILS, SO YEAH, I HEARD THAT PART.
I JUST WAS READING SOMETHING AS YOU SAID.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M ALSO WONDERING WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DIDN'T WE AT TIMES, YOU KNOW, PURCHASE FROM, THERE WAS LIKE A MILITARY HOUSE SURPLUS, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, EQUIPMENT.
AND I'M WONDERING IF, UH, SAY, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THAT COULD BE OBTAINED LESS EXPENSIVELY OR, OR CHEAPER.
THESE ARE, THESE ARE ONE OF THOSE ITEMS THAT UM, IF THEY END UP MAKING, YOU KNOW, THE SURPLUS LIST, THEY DISAPPEAR EXTREMELY QUICKLY.
UH, AND, AND THIS ONE, UH, SPECIFICALLY WOULD BE DESIGNED MORE FOR AN E M S ROLE WHERE THE STRETCHER OF THE BACKBOARD COULD BE SAFELY MOUNTED ON THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE SO THE PATIENT WOULD BE SECURE AND TRANSPORT.
WHERE MOST OF THE ONES WE SEE FROM GOVERNMENT SURPLUS ARE JUST A, A REGULAR, UH, UTILITY VEHICLE WITH A, A, A, A DUMP BODY
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ON, ON THE BACK.YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SORT OF WONDERING, EVEN FOR PUBLIC WORKS, IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, YOU KNOW, TO REACH OUT TO SAY SENATOR SCHUMER OR GIL GRANT OR BOWMAN AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE VEHICLES, UM, THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PURCHASING, WHERE THESE ARE EQUIPMENTS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT PURCHASING.
DO YOU HAVE ANY SURPLUS AND MAYBE, MAYBE THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO HELP US.
UH, THERE ARE GRANTS AND YEAH.
AND THAT, THAT ARE PERHAPS AVAILABLE.
MAYBE WE CAN LOOK FOR THOSE GRANTS.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ANYONE NOT THAT WE KNOW OF RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THIS.
NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T LOOK OR THERE MIGHT NOT BE IN THE FUTURE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT THE CAPTAIN AND THE LIEUTENANT IN PARTICULAR, THAT'S REALLY THE FIRST PLACE THEY LOOK BEFORE WE COME AND ASK.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ANTICIPATING A NEED.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SITUATIONS WHERE, YOU KNOW WHAT, LOOK, I ALWAYS SAY THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT WE'RE WELL EQUIPPED, BUT WHEN WE DON'T, WE STILL MAKE DUE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO ANTICIPATE WHAT YOU MIGHT NEED.
THIS VEHICLE WOULD BE USEFUL, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S MORE IMPORTANT FOR ME TO MAINTAIN THE SERVICES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DAY TO DAY HAVE TO MAINTAIN.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S SOMETHING OUT OF THIS THAT HAS TO GIVE, IT'S THIS VEHICLE, BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE WOULDN'T BE BETTER OFF FOR HAVING IT MAYBE.
I I AND THE REASON I ASKED HOW OFTEN
IF THERE'S ANOTHER AGENCY THAT BASICALLY WOULD TO ASSIST US, RIGHT? LIKE WHITE PLAINS OR YONKERS OR SOMEBODY THAT HAS IT, THAT MAYBE FOR THE COUNTY OR THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE OUR OWN OFF AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE HAVE OUR OWN, WE'RE RESPONDING.
WE'RE THERE, WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO SEND RIGHT AWAY.
VERSUS WHEN YOU HAVE TO RELY ON ANOTHER AGENCY AT A MINIMUM THERE'S A DELAY.
AT WORST THEY CAN'T SEND IT OR THEY MAY SAY WE'RE SENDING IT AND THEN YOU FIND OUT 20 MINUTES LATER THAT THEY CAN'T.
WELL, I'M THINKING IF THERE'S ANY REASON, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF BUDGET TO DELAY, MAYBE IT'S JUST AN INTERIM SOLUTION IF THERE, IF THE SOLUTION IS AVAILABLE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ALSO THINKING, UM, SAY THIS, UH, UTILITY VEHICLE, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THAT COULD BE, SHOULD BE LIKE IN AN, A BUDGET BECAUSE YOU HAVE, SAY THE SOUTH COUNTY TRAIL, YOU HAVE, UH, THE OLD CROWTON AQUEDUCT.
UH, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE, THE VILLAGES HAVE TRAILS, BUT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT WE INFREQUENTLY, UM, USE, UM, USE IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE VILLAGE SAY ON OLD.
WELL, WE DON'T ONLY APPLY TO THE VILLAGES, NOT NECESSARILY THE COUNTY PARK.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT IF WE PUT IN A BUDGET INSTEAD OF THE B BUDGET, THEN WE CAN MAKE IT AVAILABLE TO, UH, VILLAGE POLICE DEPARTMENTS IF THEY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE TO GO ON THE TRAILS, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, ANY, UM, YOU KNOW, SIMILAR NEEDS AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ALL THE VILLAGES HAVE TRAILS THAT THEY SERVE.
DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? I MEAN, IT COULD, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S AN E M S RESCUE VEHICLE, SO IT COULD FALL UNDER E M S AND TECHNICAL RESCUE.
SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF THINKING, UM, MAYBE ROBERTA MAYBE IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO PUT THAT IN THE A A BUDGET AND THEN WE COULD ASK THE VILLAGES IF, UH, IF THEY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WOULD OBJECT TO IT.
I MEAN, DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE A NUMBER TO, YEAH.
ALRIGHT, WELL YOU SAID THIS IS OUTFITTED FOR MEDICAL REASONS.
YEAH, IT, IT CARRIES UP TO FOUR PERSONNEL, BUT THE, THE BACK OF THE VEHICLE, UH, CAN A STRETCHER, A BACKBOARD CAN BE MOUNTED ON THE BACK WITH A, AN TENDENCY TO CARE FOR THE PERSON.
DO WE, UH, IN THE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW FOR EXAMPLE, SAY ON THE, THE MARI CUOMO BRIDGE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF ACCENTS ON THAT.
D DOES THE GREENBERG POLICE RESPOND EVER TO THOSE ACCIDENTS? YEAH, WE PROVIDE THE ADVANCED LIFE SUPPORT FOR TERRYTOWN.
SO WOULD THIS, LIKE VEHICLE VEHICLE SAY THERE'S A BICYCLE ACCIDENT OR A PEDESTRIAN, UH, ACCIDENT, SAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BRIDGE, WOULD THIS TYPE OF VEHICLE ALSO BE, I THINK A SITUATION LIKE THAT, A REGULAR AMBULANCE, AMBULANCE WOULD BE MORE APPROPRIATE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE BIKE LANE AND AREA, BUT REMEMBER THE IDEA OF THIS VEHICLE IS IF YOU HAVE AN AREA THAT'S MORE OFF ROAD WHERE YOU DON'T WANT PERSONNEL, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO HIKE A STRUCTURE, YOU KNOW, AIRWAY BAGS, EQUIPMENT, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, MORE FOR SOME THAT'S OFF THE BEATEN.
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SOMETHING ON THE BRIDGE.WE WERE SENDING AN AMBULANCE AND WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR YEARS.
UM, ALRIGHT, THE, UH, FELIX, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, SPEAKER IN THE ARCHITECT AND THEN ON MY CELL PHONE THERE'S ONE OTHER GENTLEMAN THAT'S OWNER OF THE SITE.
AND, UM, THE QUESTION IS HOW IS, WELL, HELLO? HI, LOUIS? YES.
WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED IN A MINUTE.
UM, WE'LL START IN A FEW MOMENTS.
WILL I BE ABLE TO PRESENT? YES.
UM, AND ZACH HAS THE SHARE SCREEN AND IF YOU WANT TO, ARE YOU ON THE ZOOM STILL? I, I AM ON THE ZOOM AND ON THE CALL.
SO IF LEWIS COULD BE MADE A, UH, PANELIST, THEN HE CAN SHARE SCREEN IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, LEWIS.
AND, UM, WE'LL DO THE AUDIO THROUGH HERE, UH, THROUGH THE RECORD.
HI DAVID, HOW ARE YOU? I'LL HELEN, PLEASE.
AND, UH, I THINK I CAN, I CAN SHARE SCREENS.
ALRIGHT, DAVID, I HAVE YOU ON SPEAKER.
I'M JUST GONNA LET THIS, UH, STAY HERE AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED IN A MOMENT.
TRY AND TURN OFF THE BUTTON AS MUCH AS YOU CAN.
PUT IT RIGHT UNDERNEATH THOSE MICROPHONES.
SO JUST TO KICK THINGS OFF HERE, UH, WE WANNA WELCOME DAVID TOSKA ON THE PHONE.
ON THE PHONE WE HAVE ZACH PEARSON AND HELEN MULCH HERE ON BEHALF OF, UH, PROPERTY OWNER OF THREE 80 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
UH, TO PRESENT A CONCEPT FOR REUSE AND REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT SITE AND, UM, SITES IN THE IB DISTRICT, IT WOULD REQUIRE AMENDED SITE PLAN APPROVAL OF THE TOWN BOARD, AS WELL AS A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR THAT CAR DEALERSHIP USE FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO HAVING SET THE STAGE THERE, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO, UH, THE TEAM HERE.
I'M JUST GONNA MAKE A COUPLE OF JUST INTRODUCTORY REMARKS.
HELEN MOOCH FROM FROM MINSTER MARCH.
UH, THANK YOU FOR PUTTING US ON YOUR WORK SESSION.
WE, YEAH, WE JUST WANNA INTRODUCE THE PROJECT AND THE PROJECT TEAM.
WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD AND MAKING A, A FORMAL APPLICATION FOR SITE PLAN AMENDMENT.
UM, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS ABOUT THE SITE.
UM, AS GARRETT SAID, IT'S IN THE EIGHT BY EIGHT DISTRICT.
IT'S 5.3 ACRES, SO JUST OVER FIVE ACRES.
UM, AND THERE'S AN EXISTING 59,000 DO 59,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING ON THE SITE THAT WAS FORMERLY USED AS EMPIRE STORAGE.
AND ALSO FOUR TIME U S A, UH, THE TOCAS ARE RENOVATING THE EXISTING BUILDING, UM, AND THEY'RE GOING TO IMPROVE THE SITE.
UH, THEY'RE GONNA MOVE THEIR JEEP DEALERSHIP THAT IS NOW IN WHITE PLAINS TO THIS SITE.
AND, UM, THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROPERTY.
IT'S WELL SUITED FOR THE DEALERSHIP USE IN TERMS OF ITS SIZE, THE EXISTING UNDERUTILIZED BUILDING AND, UM, EXISTING VEGETATIVE BUFFERS IN THE REAR AND SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
IS GOODWILL STILL THERE? NO, I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
EVERYONE HAS MOVED OUT VACANT BAY.
THE ONE OTHER THING I WANNA KNOW BEFORE, UM, UH, I INTRODUCED YOU TO THE PROPERTY OWNER AND HE SAYS A FEW WORDS ABOUT HIS COMPANY AND HIS FAMILY IS THAT, UM, THIS IS A TYPE TWO ACTION UNDER CCRA.
UH, SO IT'S EXEMPT FROM CCRA BECAUSE IT IS A REUSE OF A COMMERCIAL BUILDING WHERE THE USE IS PERMITTED UNDER EXISTING ZONING.
SO DAVE TOSKA IS ON THE PHONE, HE'S ONE OF THE OWNERS AND, UH, JUST THOUGHT HE COULD INTRODUCE HIMSELF AND SAY A COUPLE OF WORDS.
HOW Y'ALL DOING? UM, THANK YOU FOR, UH, LETTING US, UH, COME TO THE MEETING TONIGHT.
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MY FAMILY'S, UH, BEEN IN THE CAR BUSINESS FOR OVER 70 YEARS AND THIS IS OUR FIRST DEALERSHIP.WE'VE, UH, OPERATED IN NEW YORK, THE JEEP STORE IN WHITE PLAINS.
AND, UM, WE'RE LOOKING TO RELOCATE IT BECAUSE WHERE WE ARE TODAY IS GONNA BE TOWERS, UH, HIGH-RISE TOWERS ARE BEING PUT IN BY A LOCAL DEVELOPERS.
SO WE, UM, WE FOUND THIS SPOT AND I THINK BETWEEN THE, UH, THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING AND THE, AND THE SPACE, IT'LL BE A GREAT, UH, FACILITY FOR OUR JEEP STORE AND, UH, SHOULD BE ONE OF THE PREMIER JEEP DEALERSHIPS AND IN THE NORTHEAST.
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
SO GARRETT, IN TERMS OF THE WHOLE REVIEW PROCESS, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE SORT OF THE STEPS? YEAH, SO THEY'RE FORMULATING A SITE PLAN AND I THINK THEY'RE GONNA WALK US THROUGH, UM, THE BASICS OF THAT SITE PLAN IN A MOMENT.
BUT, UM, THEY WOULD FOR FILE A FORMAL APPLICATION, WHICH IS UNDERWAY, AND, UM, WE WOULD CIRCULATE THAT TO THE COUNTY, TO NEW YORK STATE D O T, TO THE VARIOUS, UH, TOWN AGENCIES.
AND THEN ONCE WE GET COMMENTS BACK, WE WOULD WORK ON THEM TO PERFECT THAT APPLICATION, IF YOU WILL.
AND THEN THEY WOULD COME BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A SITE PLAN, I'M SORRY, SPECIAL PERMIT TO ALLOW THE CAR DEALERSHIP USE.
ARE YOU LOOKING AT, UM, ANY LIKE GREEN TECHNOLOGIES, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THAT BUILDING? I'M GONNA LET ZACH TALK, I'LL TALK ABOUT THE SITE PLAN AND LEWIS CAN TALK ABOUT THE BUILDING, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA LET THEM ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.
THEY'RE, BUT SINCE THEY'RE THE DESIGNERS.
UM, SO WHO WANTS TO GO FIRST? LOUIS, OR I'LL GO, I'LL GO FIRST.
SO I'M JUST GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN.
YOU GUYS CAN ALL SEE THAT, THAT THIS IS THE EXISTING SITE PLAN.
UH, HELEN MENTIONED 59,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING, UM, ASPHALT OVER MUCH OF THE SITE.
EVERYTHING YOU KIND OF SEE IN THIS FLAT TRIANGLE HERE IS, IS IS PAVED.
UM, COMING NORTH ON NINE A, THERE'S A ONE-WAY ENTRANCE IN, THERE'S A SIGNALIZE ENTRANCE AT THE MIDPOINT OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S AN IN, IN AND OUT HERE, AND THEN THERE'S A ONE WAY OUT ON ROUTE NINE, UM, TO THE NORTH.
SO I'M JUST GONNA HAND DOWN WHAT WE HAVE AS A CONCEPT PLAN WE'RE WORKING ON, DEVELOP THIS A LITTLE FURTHER.
SO WE'VE HAD SOME INITIAL DISCUSSIONS WITH STAFF.
UM, A FEW THINGS HAVE COME OUT OF THAT ONE.
ONE BEING THERE'S AN EXISTING SIDEWALK ALONG, UM, SAW MILL RIVER ROAD.
THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ONLY COMES TO THE SIGNALIZE INTERSECTION WHERE THE HAND IS HERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID HEAR, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS FROM STAFF.
WE'RE GONNA LOOK TO EXTEND THAT SIDEWALK PAST OUR, YOU KNOW, ALONG OUR FRONTAGE, CROSSOVER ACROSS THE ENTRANCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, EXTEND THAT ALL THE WAY ALONG THE PROPERTY'S FRONTAGE.
UM, WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEIR SENSITIVITY.
I, I'VE SEEN THE BOARD, UM, REVIEW THE SHOPRITE PROJECT JUST TO THE SOUTH.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HEARD COMMENTS RELATIVE TO, UM, CAR CARRIER DELIVERIES AND TRUCK TURNING.
SO, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE TRUCK'S COMING NORTH ON NINE A, YOU KNOW, WE FEEL WE'VE GOT A ONE WAY IN AND A ONE WAY OUT OPTION THAT THAT WORKS.
UM, WE'RE CURRENTLY STUDYING THE, THE SOUTH ON NINE A AND WHAT THAT TURNING WOULD LOOK LIKE INTO THE SITE.
SO ESSENTIALLY COMING THIS WAY AND MAKING THE LEFT HAND TURN IN AND SEEING IF THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY BOTH WAYS TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THAT WORKS.
UM, REAL QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE PARKING FOR BOTH OR PARKING FOR CAR STORAGE.
WE HAVE PARKING FOR UM, CUSTOMERS AND THEN WE HAVE DISPLAY OP DISPLAY AS WELL ALONG, ALONG THE FRONTAGE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH SOME OF THE GRADES THAT ARE ON SITE.
UM, WE ARE GONNA KIND OF CHANGE THE ONSITE CIRCULATION.
WE'RE LOOKING TO, UM, WE'RE GONNA ESTABLISH LARGER GREEN SPACES, LARGER ISLANDS.
SO THERE WILL BE A DECREASE IN IMPERVIOUS ON THE SITE, WHICH IS A BENEFIT, WHICH IS A BENEFIT TO STORMWATER.
YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY MOST OF THIS LOT IS PAVED.
WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, DUE TO SOME GRADING OPERATIONS, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UM, HIT CERTAIN PARTS OF THE BUILDING AND, AND, AND HIT ELEVATIONS ON THE EXISTING BUILDING.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE SOME GRADES.
AND WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA LOOK TO GET, TO DEVELOP SOME GREEN SPACE AND DO SOME ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPING.
IT ACTUALLY HELPED WITH THE FLOODING, UH, PROBLEMS AND IN THAT SECTION, YEAH, I MEAN, REDUCTION, REDUCTION IN IMPERVIOUS IS A REDUCTION IN RUNOFF.
SO, UM, AND THAT'S REALLY IT ON THE SITE.
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE, FROM TOWN STAFF SO FAR THAT WE'RE, WE'RE INCORPORATING INTO OUR SITE PLANS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, I'LL, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO THE ARCHITECT IF THAT, IF YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO ASK AGAIN, LIKE, ARE YOU USING SOLAR OR GEO, ANYTHING THAT'S INNOVATIVE? WE'LL, WE'LL LET, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA USE ON THE BUILDING RELATED ITEMS, BUT, UM, SO THEY'RE IN, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE FILLING IN AND LEVELING ANY AREAS OR IS THERE A SLOPE?
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THE, SO THE, THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT IS, IS GRADED OFF RIGHT NOW.SO IT, IT ALL COMES DOWN TO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER WHERE THE ONE-WAY ENTRANCE IS IN.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PICK UP SOME OF THE GRADES AROUND THE BUILDING.
THEY HAVE GARAGE BAY DOORS ON THE, ON THE, THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
RIGHT? THIS SIDE, UM, THEIR SERVICE ENTRANCES ENVISIONED IS COMING IN THIS SOUTHERN ENTRANCE HERE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, COMING OUT THIS SIDE AS WELL.
UH, OR THERE'S ONE, ONE OTHER THING I FORGOT TO MENTION, UH, THE TOWN, EARLY, EARLY ON IN THE STAFF MEETING WITH THE TOWN THERE, THERE WAS SOME INVASIVE SPECIES AND, AND SOME TREES UP IN HERE THAT WERE IN A LITTLE ROUGH SHAPE ALONG THE, THE PROPERTY BOUNDARY BETWEEN OUR PROPERTY AND THE PROPERTY OF THE NORTH.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO REMOVE THOSE AS PART OF THIS AS WELL.
WHERE ARE RESIDENT IN RELATION TO THAT? I'M NOT REMEMBERING.
UH, THEY'RE TO THE, UH, THERE TO THE EAST, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THEY BUT KIND OF SOUTHEAST YOU BUT IT NO, BUT IT'S, IT'S ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ALL THESE TREES.
SO HERE, LET ME JUST, I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN TO PROBABLY, I DON'T EVEN THINK THIS IS NORTH OF, UH, SHOPRITE.
YOU'RE, AND IT'S, AND IT, AND IT'S JUST SOUTH OF A VOLKSWAGEN AND IT'S, UH, THE MECHANICO, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY SITES.
SO THIS, THIS IS THE EXISTING BUILDING HERE, BUT THERE'S A, A THICK VEGETATIVE, RIGHT.
SO THERE IS A STREAM THAT CUTS THROUGH HERE.
WE'RE NOT PUSHING ANY, YOU KNOW, THE IMPERVIOUS BOUNDARY THAT'S THERE NOW.
AND THE, THE LANDSCAPING THAT'S ALONG THIS EDGE, WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO TOUCH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE STREAM SITS DOWN SLOPE.
AND THEN YOU'VE GOT THE MECHANICAL PARK RESIDENCE HERE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE, THE SHOP RENT THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
HOW WOULD YOU DEAL WITH THE, UH, OFFLOADING OF CARS? 'CAUSE THAT'S ALWAYS A PROBLEM WITH A CAR DEALERSHIP.
THAT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE STUDYING BRINGING THEM ONTO THE PROPERTY, NOT, YOU KNOW, NOT ON NINE A, GETTING THEM ON AND THEN OFFLOADING THEM ON PROPERTY.
NO WAY YOU CAN OFFLOAD ON NINE A I WOULD RECOMMEND A NO, JUST TOW THE CAR TO OUR CARRIER IF IT'S BLOCKING NINE ACT, IF THAT'S RIGHT.
SO WE'VE, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE CAR CARRIER COMING NORTH, WE, WE HAVE THAT SOLVED.
THERE'S AN IN, IN AND OUT FOR THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN STAFF HAS ASKED US TO LOOK AT WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE FOR THE CAR CARRIER COMING SOUTH AND WHAT IMPROVEMENTS WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN TO THAT EXISTING MAIN ENTRANCE AT THE SIGNAL, IF ANY, TO MAKE THE TURN IN AND WHAT WE'D HAVE TO DO TO GET A CAR CARRIER OFF A NINE, GIVEN THE SENSITIVITY OF TRAFFIC AND, AND, AND GETTING THAT CAR OFF THAT TRUCK.
ONE ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, KEEPS COMING UP, UM, IS, UM, SOME PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY FEEL THAT, UM, WE SHOULD BE ASKING, UM, POTENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, APPLICANTS.
UM, WHAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HIRING LOCAL PEOPLE FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, YOU KNOW, PERMANENT JOBS.
AND I'M WONDERING, ARE YOU GONNA BE, UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TRANSFERRING, YOU KNOW, EXISTING EMPLOYEES OR IS IT, WILL THERE BE ANY, UH, JOB OPPORTUNITIES AVAILABLE TO, YOU KNOW, FOR RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY? YES.
SO, UH, TO SPEAK TO THAT, WE ARE GONNA BE, UH, RELOCATING ALL OUR STAFF FROM, UH, THE 70 WESTCHESTER PROPERTY IN WHITE PLAINS, BUT THIS IS A MUCH LARGER FACILITY, UM, THAN WE OPERATE TODAY.
AND WE, WE DO BELIEVE WE WILL DO MORE BUSINESS.
SO THERE'LL DEFINITELY BE, UM, SOME MORE JOB OPPORTUNITY AND WOULD LOVE TO OFFER HIM TO THE LOCAL, UH, COMMUNITY.
WOULD YOU EVER BE OPEN, UM, TO LIKE EVEN HAVING LIKE AN APPRENTICESHIP, UH, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM FOR YOUNG PEOPLE, UM, WHO MAY WANT TO GO INTO THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS FIELD, I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THROWING THIS OUT.
WE DO LIKE TO WORK WITH A LOT OF THE LOCAL, UM, TRADE SCHOOLS AND HIGH SCHOOL PROGRAMS WITH, UH, YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING TO ESPECIALLY GET INTO THE TECHNICIAN FIELD.
AND, UM, WE, WE, IN SOME OF OUR OTHER STORES IN THE PAST, WE HAVE DONE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING GREAT FOR US TO LOOK IN WITH THE LOCAL SCHOOLS TO, TO HAVE THEM WORK IN OUR SHOPS AND WORK WITH OUR MECHANICS AND SAY, UM, OBVIOUSLY IT'S A VERY HIGH DEMAND TRADE RIGHT NOW.
SO IT, IT WOULD BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY EITHER IF YOU HAD A YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER WOULD BE LIKE, EXCELLENT.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER UM, ISSUE THAT I JUST HAD, UM, IS, UM, UH, DO YOU HAVE LIKE ANY ELECTRIC CARS? YES.
SO, UM, YEAH, THIS, THERE WILL BE, UM, ALL THE OEMS ARE OBVIOUSLY INCREASING THEIR, OUR EV PRESENCE AND THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT WE GET FACED WITH, WITH A CHARGING STATION FOR ALL THESE NEW EVS THAT ARE COMING OUT.
SO I THINK LEWIS CAN HELP SPEAK TO THAT TOO.
BUT THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS THAT, UH, CHRYSLER AND JEEP WANT US TO INSTALL
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CHARGERS ON THE PROPERTY.WE WOULD ARE THE CHARGERS BE AVAILABLE, SAY I ASK GARRETT IF WE COULD COME UP WITH LIKE A MAP, A MASTER MAP LISTING ALL THE ELECTRIC CHARGERS THAT WE HAVE AROUND TOWN, AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF, UM, UM, ANY OF THESE CHARGERS, UH, WOULD BE AVAILABLE, SAY TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC? I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE, WHAT'S ON THE PLANS TODAY.
NORMALLY IT'S FOR OUR CARS AND THE, AND THE CUSTOMERS, BUT, UM, WE, WE CAN LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE ON THE PLAN TODAY.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE IT'S GOING.
OBVIOUSLY GOING FORWARD AS THEY GET MORE PREVALENT, THESE STORES ARE GONNA HAVE MORE EV REQUIREMENTS.
ARE, ARE THEY DELIVERIES ALL TIMES OF DAY OR ARE THEY SPECIFICALLY DURING, UM, MORNING HOURS, AFTERNOON HOURS? IS THERE ANY, ANY RHYME OR REASON TO WHEN DELIVERIES ARE MADE? SO WE WERE GOING TO INCLUDE A NARRATIVE ON THAT IN OUR FORMAL SUBMISSION.
UM, DAVE, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF, IF YOU HAVE THOSE ANSWERS FOR THIS PARTICULAR STORE OR CAN JUST ANSWER.
GENERALLY THE MAJORITY OF THE DELIVERIES ARE, UH, DURING THE WEEK, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY NORMALLY, BUT MOST OF THE PART OF THE WORKING DAY FROM LIKE SEVEN TO FOUR OR FIVE O'CLOCK, UM, SOMETIMES THEY COME ON THE WEEKENDS, BUT I WOULD SAY THE MAJORITY IS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS.
BUT THEY SOMETIMES GO UP AT DIFFERENT TIMES.
UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW, IF THERE'S ANY AMOUNT OF NOISE AND OFFLOADING OR LOADING CARS, UH, AND IF THERE IS ANY, THERE'S CONCERN FOR IMPACTS ON THE, ON THE RESIDE AND THERE IS A BUFFER, SO THAT'S GREAT.
BUT I'M JUST INQUIRING THAT NOISE FACTOR BECAUSE THAT IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THAT IS A CONCERN.
WELL WE CAN, WE'LL ADDRESS THAT IN OUR FORMAL SUBMISSION AND IT'S GREAT JUST TO GET YOUR INITIAL THOUGHTS ON THIS AND THAT'S WHY, WHY, WHY WE'RE HERE SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THEM RIGHT UP FRONT.
OH, LEWIS, DO YOU WANNA JUST SHOW US SOME YEAH.
WHAT YOU HAVE PLANNED, BECAUSE IT'S, I THINK HE'S GOT SOME PRELIMINARY SURE.
PRELIMINARY RENDERINGS THAT PICTURES YOU WANTED TO SHARE.
CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN OKAY? MM-HMM.
SO THIS IS THE PLAN THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
THIS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IS THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WITH THE SHOWROOM UP FRONT.
AS ZACH WAS SAYING, WE HAVE A SERVICE DRIVE GOING SOUTH TO NORTH, AND THEN WE HAVE THE SERVICE BAYS, UH, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PLANT HERE.
SO IF YOU, I, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH THE BUILDING, BUT THIS IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TODAY.
IT IS A VACANT BUILDING, AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS, THIS IS A PRELIMINARY RENDERING.
UH, IT'S A LITTLE BIT OUTDATED IN THAT THE JEEP ENTRANCE IS MORE TOWARD THE MIDDLE, WHERE THE STAIR IS TODAY.
SO IF WE GO BACK TO, SO YOU CAN SEE THIS INITIAL, THIS EXISTING, EXCUSE ME, UH, DOORWAY.
THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE THE DOORWAY IS GOING TO BE.
IT'S GOING TO BE MOVED TO, UH, ADJUSTED A LITTLE BIT, BUT EFFECTIVELY THAT'S WHERE IT IS.
SO YOU ARE USING BASICALLY THE SAME BUILDING AND YOU JUST RENOVATING IT? YEAH.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS KEEP THE BUILDING FOOTPRINT PREDOMINANTLY THE SAME.
WE HAVE A COUPLE OF LITTLE THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ADDING.
UH, THE STAIRS ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY REBUILT, UH, AND THE LANDING FOR THOSE STAIRS ARE GOING TO BE, UH, EXPANDED A BIT.
WE WILL NOT BE REQUIRED, WE WILL NOT BE REQUIRING A RAMP ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING BECAUSE OF THE REGRADING THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO.
WE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE OUR A D A ACCESS, UH, STRAIGHT ON GRADE.
SO THESE DOORS UP HERE, WHICH ARE AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY, ALLOW YOU ACCESS INTO ALL OF THE SPACE.
AND WHERE'S THE PARKING? I FOR THAT IS ADJACENT FRONT, DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
YEAH, THAT, SO THAT WAS REAL QUICK, LEWIS.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TO STRUGGLE WITH.
IF, IF YOU'VE SEEN THE SITE, THE SITE SLOPES FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER, THE HANDICAPPED PARKING, RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO ACCESS.
I DON'T THINK THAT ANY PART OF THAT, BUT THAT LARGE BUILDING VIA, VIA A, A D A, SO THERE, THE HANDICAPPED PARKING IN THE, THE NORTHEAST OR THE NORTHWEST CORNER.
AND THERE, THERE WILL ALSO BE A HANDICAPPED BAY, UM, ADJACENT TO THE SERVICE ENTRANCE ALONG THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO THERE'S PROVISIONS FOR THAT.
HOW ABOUT CARLOS WILL BE AT THE SHOWROOM? I, I'M NOT SURE.
YOU MEAN INSIDE THE SHOWROOM? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU EVEN KNOW THAT YET, DAVE.
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I, I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING TO GET ABOUT SIX CARDS OR A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, EACH BAY BASICALLY 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 MAYBE.BETWEEN, BETWEEN SIX AND EIGHT, UM, CARS IS WHAT, SO THIS IS REALLY GONNA HAVE LIKE A VERY, VERY MINOR IMPACT ON TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S ONLY RIGHT.
YEAH, THERE'S SIX OR EIGHT CARS IN THE SHOWROOM, BUT THERE ARE MORE CARS IN THE BACK AREA.
WOULD YOU HAVE LIKE ANY IDEA, UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE TRAFFIC, HOW MANY, UM, JUST LIKE A ROUGH ESTIMATE, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PEOPLE SAY A WOULD BE, YEAH, WE WILL CERTAINLY PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION, YOU KNOW, BASED ON THE, THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES THAT ARE AROUND THIS PROPERTY NOW FOR WHAT THE COMMERCIAL USE WAS, I'M GONNA SAY PROBABLY LESS THAN THAT WITH THE CAR DEALERSHIP, BUT THAT TRAFFIC IS SOMETHING WE'LL, WE'LL DEFINITELY DIG INTO, WE'LL CIRCULATE THAT TO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
AND, UM, YOU SAID IT WAS A POPULAR YEAH, I MEAN THERE, THERE'S A LOT OF PARKING OUT THERE NOW, SO I MEAN, ALL THE PARKING AND THE, THE, THE EAST SIDE OF THE, THE LOT THAT'S ALL GONNA BE STORAGE, PARKING FOR JUST CARS READY TO BE SOLD.
SO IN FACT, IN FACT, DO YOU WANNA PUT YOUR SITE PLAN UP AGAIN? I, I MEAN, I THINK THAT IT'S THAT PIECE UP AT THE BACK.
A LOT OF THE SERVICE IS DONE BY APPOINTMENT AT CERTAIN TIMES, SO THE RIGHT, THE FALL IS STAGGERED TO A DEGREE AND WHICH WORKS OUT NICE.
UM, I, I HAVEN'T IN MY, IN THE YEAR THAT I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT GAS, UM, CAR DEALERSHIPS.
I'M JUST WONDERING HOW DO YOU GAS UP? DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE GAS ON SITE OR DO YOU GO TO THE NEAREST GAS, HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEAREST GAS STATION? HAS THAT ALL? YEAH, NOT NORMALLY.
NORMALLY WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH A LOCAL, ONE OF THE CLOSER STATIONS IN THE AREA, AND THAT'S HOW IT NORMALLY WORKS.
CHECK NEW ENGLAND IN THAT VOICE.
I THOUGHT I SAW A RHODE ISLAND AREA CODE.
MY DAUGHTER LIVES IN PROVIDENCE, SO YEAH, WE'RE, UH, WE WERE, UH, BORN AND RAISED IN RHODE ISLAND.
OUR MAIN, UH, HEADQUARTERS IS IN CRANSTON, RHODE ISLAND.
YEAH, SHE WORKED IN CRANSTON FOR A WHILE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO, LIKE I SAID, PUT TOGETHER A FORMAL APPLICATION PACKET.
UH, WE'LL ADDRESS ALL THESE QUESTIONS AND MORE AND INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE CODE.
UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO HOPEFULLY MAKE THAT FORMAL SUBMISSION VERY SOON AND BE HOPEFULLY BE ON A MARCH AGENDA, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, AND, AND WE'LL SIMULTANEOUSLY SUBMIT TO THE PLANNING BOARD AND, UM, GET THE APPROVALS, UM, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE SO THAT TASCA CAN OPEN TO THE PUBLIC ROUGHLY BY THIS TIME NEXT YEAR IN, UH, MARCH, 2024.
UM, IF, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US NOW? AGAIN, THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING.
WE'LL APPEAR BEFORE YOU AND HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL THAT, BUT, UH, JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR INITIAL REACTION.
HOPE THAT WAS ENOUGH REACTION.
YEAH, I THINK I, I'M, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE ABOUT THIS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, GOOD USE, IT'S A GOOD RATEABLE, LIKE YOU SAID, IT'S LESS TRAFFIC, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE MODERNIZING OLDER, YOU KNOW, AN OLDER BUILDING MM-HMM.
SO I HAVE, I'M, I CAN'T THINK OF ANY NEGATIVES TO BE HONEST.
THE NEGATIVE WILL BE IF YOU EVER OFFLOAD ON NINE NINE, RIGHT.
THAT IS OUR BIGGEST HEADACHE WITH CAR DEALERSHIPS OFFLOADING ON OUR MAIN ROAD AND, YOU KNOW, IT USES OUR POLICE RESOURCES TO GO OUT AND DO THE ENFORCEMENT AND
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IT MAKES A BAD NAME FOR OTHER CAR DEALERSHIPS.YOU KNOW, I, I DEFINITELY WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.
OR THEY'LL PARK IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THE LANES OF SOUTHBOUND AND NORTHBOUND, LIKE AS IF THAT MAKES IT ANY BETTER.
IT'S, IT DOESN'T, SO WHATEVER YOU CAN DO TO FIGURE OUT WHERE IS IT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT AND YOU DON'T HAVE MORE THAN ONE, ONE HAULER COMING AT THE SAME TIME, UM, IF YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO HANDLE IT, THAT WOULD BE TERRIFIC.
UM, YOU ARE RIGHT BECAUSE I'M SURE THAT WHEN CHUCK RIGHT OPENS UP, YOU KNOW, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP THE PROMISES THAT IT'S NOT GONNA DE HAVE A NEGATIVE IMPACT ON THEIR QUALITY OF LIFE.
DO YOU THINK, UH, DO YOU THINK THEY SHOULD, UM, DO AN OUTREACH TO UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY SINCE IS RIGHT CLOSE BY OR EVEN THE UH, YOU KNOW, THE CONDOS NEAR NEAR SHOP? RIGHT.
JUST, I MEAN, I, I COULD REACH OUT TO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WE CAN PROVIDE THE CONTEXT TO YOU.
AREN'T WE GONNA HAVE TO NOTICE THEM ANYWAY? THERE WILL BE A FORMAL NOTICE AS PART OF THIS, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
YEAH, I THINK YOU NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE PLAN TO SHOW AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE'RE JUST, UM, YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS HE HAD NO CARS ON.
I DON'T KNOW IF I MENTIONED THAT BEFORE.
I'LL ASK JANELLE TO MAKE A YOUTUBE OF THIS.
I'LL POST THIS PRESENTATION ON, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEBSITE AND THEN I'LL LET PEOPLE IN THE MEDIA NEIGHBORHOOD KNOW.
THE LAST THING FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING IS, UH, THE TIF DISTRICT.
UM, WE WE'RE GONNA, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, THANKS.
SEE YOU, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD AND MAYBE SEEING IF THERE'S ANY COMPROMISES SO THE TOWN COULD GET, YOU KNOW, MORE UNINCORPORATED AGREEMENT TO GET SOME REVENUE FROM NEW PROJECTS.
WELL, WHAT I SUGGESTED IS THAT WE MAKE IT SO THAT FURTHER CONTRIBUTIONS ARE THE INCREASES IN ASSESSMENTS BASED ON THE A BUDGET BUT NOT THE A AND B BUDGET.
CURRENTLY, THE VILLAGE CONTRIBUTES THEIR A BUDGET INCREASE AND THE VILLAGE AND THE INCORPORATED AREA CONTRIBUTES THE A BUDGET AND B BUDGET INCREASES.
AND, UH, THERE'S A SIZABLE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN THAT AND IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR US TO, UH, TO MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S THE, A BUDGET FOR BOTH AREAS.
SO WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS ON THAT? UH, HAVING OUR TOWN ATTORNEY LOOK INTO WHAT THE NEXT STEPS ARE? I WILL LOOK INTO IT.
I WAS ALSO ON THE ASSUMPTION THAT WE WERE TRYING TO PLAN A MEETING WITH THE VILLAGE AND ALSO, UM, THE, THE, THE STATE WAS, WAS ASKED TO BE INVOLVED AS WELL.
I THINK JOAN WAS, WELL THE STATE WOULD BE FUNDING.
SO I COULD, I COULD LOOK INTO THE STATE'S FUNDING SOMETHING I THOUGHT FOR THE, FOR THE, I I'M THINKING ABOUT THE BYPASS, THE, THE WAREHOUSE LANE BYPASS WAREHOUSE LANE.
I WILL COMMIT TO MAKING CONTACT WITH THE STATE AND ENGINEERS TO PROVIDE A REAL TIME UPDATE.
UM, SO I'LL KEEP YOU APPRISED ON THAT.
I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THAT TODAY AND I'M NOT INDICAT OF DOING AWAY WITH THE TIFTON DISTRICT BECAUSE IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THAT AS A SIGN, A LONG TERM SIGN OF OUR DEDICATION TO PROVIDING MATCHING FUNDS THAT IF WE NEED TO HAVE MATCHING FUNDS.
UM, BUT I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE CONTINUING TO, UH, FUND IT AT THE SAME LEVEL THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A CONSTRUCTIVE SUGGESTION.
SO I'LL, I'LL PROCEED WITH TRYING TO PUT THAT INTO PLACE AND REACHING OUT TO THE VILLAGE OFFICIALS AS WELL TO DISCUSS WITH THEM.
SO NOW WE HAVE A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR, FOR, TO DISCUSS CONTRACTS, LEGAL PERSONNEL.
SO WE NOW CLARIFY THAT IT'S INVOLVING INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE BEFORE YOU GO AHEAD AND, UH, YEAH, IT'S GETTING LEGAL ADVICE ABOUT, UH, FROM OUR TIME ATTORNEY, WHICH IS NOT REALLY OPEN MEETING, BUT IT'S ATTORNEY GLENN PRIVILEGE, CORRECT? YEP.
AYE MOVE WILL NOT BE COMING THIS EVENING, BUT WE WILL SEE YOU TOMORROW AT SEVEN O'CLOCK 7 7 30.
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MEETING SEVEN O'CLOCK, NOT SEVEN 30, NOT SEVEN 30.