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OKAY, WE'RE WELCOME TO, UH, THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
UH, TODAY IS FEBRUARY 28TH AT, UM, FIVE 17.
AND, UM, I GUESS, WELL, WE'RE, ARE WE READY FOR THE, UH, THE FIRST ITEM, EASTON? OR SHOULD WE SHOULD TAKE OTHER STUFF OUT OF ORDER? I THINK WE'RE READY.
SO, GARRETT, ARE WE READY FOR YOU, GARRETT? IS HE AT THE AGENDA? CAN YOU HEAR? CAN YOU HEAR IT? GARRETT? CAN YOU HEAR US? CAN YOU HEAR GARRETT? YOU MUST NOT BE ABLE TO HEAR.
I, I CAN DO THE INTRODUCTION IF, IF GARRETT'S HAVING TROUBLE.
I'M HAPPY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE INTRODUCTION IF YOU'D LIKE.
GARY, CAN YOU HEAR US? YOU'RE NOW OFF MUTE.
HE DOESN'T SEEM TO HEAR, I JUST TEXTED HIM.
GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR, FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, WITH ME HERE THIS EVENING IS SIRI OLSSON FROM EASTON ARCHITECTS.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SIRI AND HER TEAM OVER THE LAST YEAR, UH, TO BASICALLY UPDATE THE HISTORIC RESOURCES REPORT THAT WAS INITIALLY COMPLETED IN 2006 BY LARSSON LARSSON FISHER ASSOCIATES.
AND, UH, SIRI AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN, AGAIN, WORKING WITH TOWN STAFF IN THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION, AS WELL AS WITH OUR MEMBERS OF OUR HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD TO UPDATE THAT INITIAL SURVEY WITH NEW INFORMATION AND, AND GUIDELINES AND GOALS FOR THE TOWN TO CONTINUE ITS EFFORTS WITH HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
SO WITH THAT, I KNOW WE DON'T HAVE A TON OF TIME.
I'M GONNA TURN THINGS OVER TO MS. OLSSON TO PRESENT HER REPORT AND TO HEAR POSSIBLY FROM OUR CHAIR OF OUR HISTORIC LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD WHO SUPPORTS THIS REPORT AS PREPARED.
AND THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR, UH, INCLUDING US IN YOUR AGENDA TONIGHT.
SO WE'RE GONNA GIVE JUST A, A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT AND HOPEFULLY LEAVE SOME TIME FOR, FOR QUESTIONS.
SO I'LL JUST SHARE A COUPLE
BUT AGAIN, THIS IS NOT, UH, A HUGELY VISUAL PROJECT.
UM, SO AS AARON MENTIONED, OUR PROJECT AT EASTERN ARCHITECTS WAS TO UPDATE A HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN OF GREENBURG, FOCUSING ON THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
SO WE WERE VERY FORTUNATE TO BE WORKING WITH AARON AND HIS TEAM AND WITH THE HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD.
AND THROUGHOUT OUR, OUR YEAR LONG PROCESS, WE WERE IN COLLABORATION WITH BOTH OF THOSE GROUPS.
UM, MEETING INTERIMLY TO DISCUSS THEIR PRIORITIES FOR PRESERVATION, SOME OF THEIR, THE LOCAL CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY SEE, AND REALLY EVALUATE, UH, THE INFORMATION THAT WAS AVAILABLE ABOUT HISTORIC RESOURCES ACROSS THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
SO REALLY THE PROJECT OVERVIEW WAS TO UPDATE THE 2006 RECONNAISSANCE LEVEL HISTORIC RESOURCE SURVEY, UM, AS ERIN MENTIONED, PREPARED BY LARSSON FISHER ASSOCIATES.
AND THIS IS A COMPREHENSIVE AND VERY THOROUGH DOCUMENT.
SO OUR CHARGE WAS NOT TO REEVALUATE THEIR FINDINGS, BUT RATHER TO AUGMENT THE SURVEY WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, FROM, FROM THE PAST 15 OR SO YEARS THAT HAVE PASSED SINCE IT WAS COMPLETED.
SO WE WERE REALLY FOCUSED ON COVERING THE PERIOD OF 1960 TO 1975.
WE PICKED THAT PERIOD, UM, BECAUSE 1960 IS THE POINT WHERE THE LARSSON FISHER SURVEY CUT OFF THEIR EVALUATIONS.
AND 1975 IS NOW THE, THE DEC THE, THE AREA, THE TIME, EXCUSE ME, THAT TAKES US UP TO THE 50 YEARS OR OLDER THRESHOLD FOR POTENTIAL SIGNIFICANCE.
UM, I'LL TALK ABOUT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
UH, BUT THAT WAS OUR FINITE TIME PERIOD OF EVALUATION.
SO WE WERE LOOKING REALLY TO DETERMINE POTENTIAL ELIGIBILITY FOR NEW RESOURCES THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT AND ELIGIBLE FOR DESIGNATION AT THE LOCAL LEVEL AND ON STATE AND NATIONAL REGISTERS OF HISTORIC PLACES FROM WITHIN THAT TIMELINE.
AND THEN THE SECOND PRONG OF OUR SURVEY UPDATE WAS REALLY TO REVIEW AND ANALYZE THE EXISTING PRESERVATION POLICIES AND PRACTICES FOR GREENBERG AND TO MAKE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ABOUT THAT.
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THESE ARE REALLY TWO PARALLEL GOALS TO LOOK AT THE HISTORIC RESOURCES AS THEY ARE AND LOOK AT THE HISTORIC CONTEXT OF THE 1960 TO 1975 PERIOD.AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT WHAT ARE THE POLICIES AND MANAGEMENT, UH, CHALLENGES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR THOSE HISTORIC RESOURCES FOR AARON'S TEAM AND FOR THE HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD.
AND THEN I ALSO WANNA MENTION THAT THIS PROJECT WAS FUNDED BY A CER, A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT GRANT FROM THE NEW YORK, UM, STATE OFFICE OF PARKS AND RECREATION, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, THE, THE NEW YORK SHIPPO, AS WE WILL.
AND THAT'S A PROGRAM THAT'LL MENTION A COUPLE TIMES.
UM, BUT IT'S A REALLY VALUABLE PROGRAM FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION GRANT FUNDING AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE THAT IS AVAILABLE TO GREENBERG BECAUSE THEY ARE A CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT.
YOU ARE PART OF THIS PROGRAM AND IT'S A REALLY VALUABLE RESOURCE NOW AND FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THROW UP A COUPLE, A COUPLE GRAPHICS AND A NOTE FROM THE NEW YORK SHIPPO ABOUT WHAT A RECONNAISSANCE SURVEY IS REALLY SORT OF DEFINED AS.
UM, SO YOU PROB MAY BE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THIS LARSSON FISHER REPORT AND IT'S ASSOCIATED GRAPHICS.
SO AS I MENTIONED, IT'S A VERY EXTENSIVE REPORT THAT COVERS, UH, THE HISTORY OF GREENBERG AND EVALUATES BOTH INDIVIDUAL RESOURCES AND POTENTIAL HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
AND IT MAKES A WEALTH OF RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THEMES AND PROPERTIES THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED SIGNIFICANT AND MAYBE WORTHY OF DESIGNATION AND RECOGNITION AT DIFFERENT LEVELS.
SO IT'S AN EXTENSIVE DOCUMENT AND IT'S A REALLY, REALLY USEFUL TOOL.
UH, SO ONE THING THAT I WANNA HIGHLIGHT ABOUT RECONNAISSANCE LEVEL SURVEYS IS THAT THEY ARE INTENTIONALLY BROAD, AND ANOTHER NAME FOR THEM IS WINDSHIELD SURVEYS.
SO THEY ARE TO REALLY LOOK AT PATTERNS AND THEMES THAT RELATE TO HISTORIC CONTEXT THAT CAN BE VALUABLE FOR FURTHER STUDY AND FURTHER DESIGNATION.
SO THAT WAS PART OF OUR SCOPE AS WELL, IS TO UPDATE WITH THIS NEW TIME PERIOD, BUT AT A, AT A HIGH LEVEL, NOT ON A NECESSARILY INDIVIDUAL BUILDING BY BUILDING LEVEL, BUT PROVIDING CONTEXT WHERE INDIVIDUAL BUILDINGS OR NEIGHBORHOODS CAN BE EVALUATED AGAINST THOSE HISTORIC THEMES OR PATTERNS.
SO AS I SAID, FOR SORT OF OUR TWO POLICY ANALYSIS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF OUR KEY RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE POLICY ANGLE AND THEN AS WELL IN SURVEY FINDINGS.
UM, SO I'M HAPPY TO YOU YOU'LL HAVE COPIES OF THE REPORT.
THESE ARE JUST HIGHLIGHTED PIECES.
UM, OUR REPORT WAS VERY TEXT HEAVY IN TERMS OF ITS ANALYSIS, UM, AND WHAT THE PROJECT DEMANDED.
BUT IN TERMS OF THE POLICIES, WE REALLY WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT AND RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD CONTINUE THE WORK THAT THEY'RE DOING TO UPDATE THEIR ONLINE PLATFORMS AND WEB PAGES WITH REALLY MAKING INFORMATION EASY TO FIND FOR THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT RESOURCES ARE LOCALLY DESIGNATED ALREADY AND HAVE EASY ACCESS TO THAT EXTENSIVE LARSSON FISHER SURVEY REPORT, WHICH HAS DOCUMENTATION AND SPREADSHEETS AND PHOTOGRAPHS AND MAPS AND VALUATIONS TOWN.
AND THEN WE ALSO RECOMMENDED TO USE AND LEVERAGE THE CERTIFIED LOCAL GOVERNMENT GET FUNDING AND TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE TO FOCUS ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND PUBLIC EDUCATION EFFORTS ABOUT HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
AND THAT IS ONE OF THE KEY RESOURCES AND GOALS OF THE PROGRAM.
SO WE ALSO DISCUSSED WITH THE BOARD PROPOSING A DEMOLITION DELAY ORDINANCE OR UPDATING THE DEMOLITION PERMIT, UH, PRESS PROCEDURE TO INVOLVE THE BOARD, UM, FURTHER, WHICH IS BENEFICIAL TO THE TOWN AS A WHOLE TO PROTECT POTENTIAL HISTORIC RESOURCES TO CREATE A COLLABORATIVE EVALUATION FOR BUILDINGS THAT MIGHT BE UNDER THREAT, BUT WE COULD BE PREFERABLY PRESERVED.
SO BOTH DEMOLITION DELAY ORDINANCES AND DEMOLITION PERMIT REVIEW PROCEDURES ARE VERY COMMON AND BEST PRACTICE TOOLS FOR MUNICIPALITIES ACROSS THE, THE, ACROSS THE NATION.
AND THIS WOULD BE, UM, A TRANSITION FOR A LOT OF THE, THE POLICIES THAT ARE IN PLACE ALREADY IN GREENBERG.
SO THIS IS, UM, A TOOL THAT SOMEWHAT EXISTS ALREADY, AND THEN IT'S JUST BUILDING ON THE PRACTICE TO HELP THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC AND HOMEOWNERS AND THE TOWN BOARD AND EVERYONE BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COLLABORATIVE AND SPECIFIC TO THE HISTORIC BUILDINGS THEMSELVES.
AND THEN WE ALSO WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, AS A RECOMMENDATION TO REALLY IMPLEMENT TWO OF THE POLICIES THAT ARE ALREADY EXISTING IN THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
SO I'VE PUT THEM UP THERE AND THEY'LL TAKE US INTO OUR SURVEY FINDINGS RECOMMENDATIONS.
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THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDS THAT THE BOARD AND THE TOWN AS A WHOLE PURSUE DESIGNATION AT THE LOCAL LEVEL FOR TOWN OWNED PROPERTIES, UM, WHICH IS A, A GREAT PLACE TO START AND A GREAT WAY TO, TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION.UH, AND THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ALSO HIGHLIGHTED CONTINUING THE ONGOING EFFORTS FOR PRESERVING AND DESIGNATING THE WASHINGTON AU UH, NATIONAL HISTORIC TRAIL.
AND THERE'S A, A MENTION OF A, AN ADDING A NEIGHBORHOOD CONSERVATION DISTRICT POLICY, WHICH, UH, I'LL SORT OF ANOTHER, ANOTHER BEST PRESERVATION TOOL.
UM, IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'LL SKIP AHEAD, BUT WANTED TO, TO HIGHLIGHT HOW IMPLEMENTING SOME OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN RECOMMENDATIONS IS REALLY BUILDING ON POLICY THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN GREENBERG, BUT TAKING IT TO, TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
SO THEN FROM OUR SURVEY FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS, OUR HISTORIC NARRATIVE FROM THE PERIOD OF 1916 TO 1975 REALLY FOCUSED ON A LOT OF THE THEMES OF TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT, DEMOLITION, AND HIGHLIGHTING A COUPLE KEY BUILDINGS THAT WERE, UH, CONSTRUCTED DURING THAT TIME, SOME OF WHICH NO LONGER EXIST, BUT SOME OF THEM LIKE THE PUBLIC LIBRARY.
WE WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, WE DISCUSS AND HIGHLIGHT AND TALK ABOUT, UH, ITS ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION AND ITS POTENTIAL ELIGIBILITY FOR FUTURE DESIGNATION.
AND REALLY OUR KEY RECOMMENDATION WHEN IT CAME TO THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES AND SURVEY FINDINGS IS WE REALLY FOUND A STRONG RECOMMENDATION TO FOCUS ON SOME OF THE KEY HISTORIC DISTRICTS AND CONSERVATION DISTRICTS AND NOMINATING PROPERTIES THAT WERE ALREADY PROPOSED IN THE LARSSON FISHER SURVEY.
SO AS I'M SURE YOU'RE FAMILIAR, IT'S AN EXTENSIVE SURVEY AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO WE, WE WANTED TO DO IS SORT OF REFINE DOWN A LIST OF WHERE ARE SOME VALUABLE PLACES THAT MIGHT START BE GOOD TO START AND SORT OF BE QUICKLY ACTIONABLE.
SO WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT PARKWAY GARDENS, FULTON PARK, THE OLD ARMY ROAD QUARTER IN THE EDGEMONT NEIGHBORHOOD, AGAIN MENTIONING THE NATIONAL HERITAGE TRAIL, AND THEN THE TOWN ON PROPERTIES AND A MULTI-PROPERTY THEMATIC NOMINATION FOR THE TOWN SCHOOLS, WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRE SOME COORDINATION WITH THE GREENBERG CENTRAL SCHOOL DISTRICT.
BUT THIS WAS ALSO RECOMMENDED IN THE LARSSON FISHER SURVEY.
SO A LOT OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME OUT OF OUR ITERATIVE MEETINGS WITH AARON AND WITH THE BOARD AND UNDERSTANDING THE PLACES THAT THEY SEE IT AS AS REALLY VALUABLE AND WITH A LOT OF HISTORIC INTEGRITY INTACT, BUT THAT COULD USE PROTECTION AT THE LOCAL LEVEL THROUGH DESIGNATION.
SO THIS WAS, UH, A, A PAIRED DOWN LIST OF SOME KEY PLACES TO FOCUS THAT WOULD COVER A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT THEMES AND REALLY LEVERAGE THE POLICIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS ALREADY IN PLACE FROM THE GREAT TOOLS THAT GREENBURG HAS.
AND THEN THE LAST POINT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HIGHLIGHTED A COUPLE OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, UM, ON THE, ON THIS MAP, THE ZONING MAP.
AND ONE THING WE REALLY JUST WANTED TO UNDERSCORE IS, YOU KNOW, THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF GREENBURG IS A LARGE AREA AND MANAGEMENT OF ITS VARIED HISTORIC RESOURCES AND ITS HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, CAN BE A CHALLENGE FROM JUST A VOLUME PERSPECTIVE.
BUT THERE ARE SO MANY VALUABLE POCKETS IDENTIFIED IN THE LARSSON FISHER SURVEY AND AS WELL KINDA UPDATED IN OURS.
UM, SO MANY POCKETS THAT, UM, HAVE THEIR OWN SPECIFIC ARCHITECTURAL PATTERNS, STYLISTIC CHARACTERISTICS, CONNECTIONS TO BROADER THEMES FOR THE REGION, UM, AND DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT HISTORIES AND SORT OF DIFFERENT MOMENTUMS AND BUILT CHARACTERS.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IT IS, WE RECOGNIZE THAT DESIGNATION OF SUCH A WITHIN SUCH A LARGE AREA CAN BE CHALLENGING, BUT IT'S ALSO A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR A RANGE OF HISTORIC RESOURCES.
SO WITH THAT SAID, UH, THAT'S THE OVERVIEW OF OUR PROJECT AND WE'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO TAKE SOME QUESTIONS.
UM, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO GIVE US LIKE A, SOMETHING IN, IN PRINT THAT WE COULD, YOU KNOW, REVIEW, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH INFORMATION AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING, BUT I'D LIKE TO REALLY LIKE LOOK AT A PRINTED COPY.
SUPERVISOR FINDER WILL CERTAINLY CIRCULATE HARD COPIES TO EACH OF THE BOARD MEMBERS SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO YOU.
CER WELL, CERTAINLY I CAN DO THAT TOMORROW FOR EVERYONE.
UM, AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, I GREW UP IN PARKWAY HOMES, WHICH IS CONSIDERED A SISTER COMMUNITY, UH, TO PARKWAY
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GARDENS.AND I THINK IT'S FANTASTIC THAT YOU HAVE PARKWAY GARDENS, UM, AS ONE OF THE, AS ONE OF THE TARGETED SITES, UM, IN THIS, IN THIS UH, PROJECT.
I ALSO REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER, UM, ADDING PARKWAY HOMES BECAUSE THAT WOULD MAINTAIN, REPRESENT AND MAINTAIN THE INTEGRITY OF THE HISTORIC IMAGE OF THOSE COMMUNITIES.
THEY'RE SISTER COMMUNITIES, PARKWAY GARDENS AND PARKWAY HOMES, AND ALSO ALSO THE FAIRGROUNDS RIGHT HERE OFF OF MANHATTAN AVENUE.
UM, THAT IS A COMMUNITY WHERE, UM, UH, AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN FROM THE 1920S AND THIRTIES CAME FROM DESTINATIONS SOUTH OF THE MASON DIXON LINE, AND THEY CAME WITH THE ARTISTIC TOOLS AND SKILLS FOR BUILDING HOMES.
AND THEY BUILT MANY OF THE HOMES IN THE FAIRGROUNDS AREA OF THIS TOWN OF GREENBURG.
UM, THAT SHOULD BE ONE OF THE, UH, SITES CONSIDERED FOR THIS HISTORIC PRESERVATION PROJECT.
SO I'M RECOMMENDING THAT YOU INCLUDE THE FAIRGROUNDS AS WELL AS PARKWAY HOMES.
UM, SO NUMBER ONE SHOULD BE PARKWAY GARDENS SLASH PARKWAY HOMES.
AND IF THERE'S ANY INFORMATION THAT I CAN PROVIDE ANY IN TERMS OF RESOURCES, UM, PEOPLE, RESOURCES, UM, DOCUMENTED RESOURCES TO SUPPORT, UM, THE FACT THAT THESE ARE SISTER COMMUNITIES, UH, I'D BE MORE THAN WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU ON THIS PROJECT.
JUDITH, THIS IS VERY WELL, THANK YOU.
THAT'S A THAT IS, YOU'VE HIT ON SOME INCREDIBLY WONDERFUL POINTS.
UM, AND I WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS, BY NO MEANS IS THIS AN EXHAUSTIVE LIST AND EXACTLY AS YOU SAY, THESE ARE TWO INCREDIBLE RESOURCES THAT, UM, ARE, ARE PRETTY WELL DOCUMENTED AS WELL IN THE, THE LARSSON FISHER SURVEY.
UM, WE HAD PARTICULARLY CALLED OUT PARKWAY GARDENS, AND I HEAR YOUR, YOUR POINT COMPLETELY OF THEM, THEM BEING SISTER COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU HAD IDENTIFIED IT THAT WAY, UM, AS WE KNEW THAT THERE HAD BEEN A, AN ONGOING HISTORY PROJECT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, A REC A RECOMMENDATION TO HOLD ON THAT MOMENTUM.
BUT ACTUALLY, AS YOU SAY, THOSE ARE EXCELLENT RESOURCES AND, UM, I SEE A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE TOWN BOARD AND THE HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD, UM, TO GATHER THAT INFORMATION AND TO PREPARE A LOCAL DESIGNATION NOMINATION.
UM, THANK YOU CAROLINE, YOU WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING? YES, I DID.
I, I WANTED TO TELL JUDITH THAT ONCE THIS SURVEY HAS BEEN ADOPTED BY THE TOWN, OUR PLAN IS TO, UM, LANDMARK, UM, YOU KNOW, GO GOING THROUGH ALL THE, UM, HOOPS THAT HAVE TO BE GONE THROUGH BOTH PARKWAY HOMES AND PARKWAY GARDENS.
IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ON OUR LIST.
I HAVE MOST OF THE INFORMATION FROM LLOYD COURT, HE GAVE IT TO ME LAST YEAR, BUT WE HADN'T ADOPTED THE SURVEY YET, SO IT DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO START A PROJECT THAT BIG.
I JUST JUST WANNA ASSURE JUDITH THAT THAT'S ON OUR RADAR FRONT AND CENTER.
MADELINE, IF YOU COULD PUT YOURSELF ON MUTE EXCEPT WHEN YOU'RE GOING TO SPEAK, 'CAUSE I HAVE YOU, YOUR, YOUR SPEAKER RIGHT TO OUR MICROPHONE, SO WHEN YOU'RE MOVING PAPERS AROUND, IT COMES OUT.
AND IF YOU EVER WANT TO SPEAK, JUST UNMUTE.
ANYBODY ELSE WANTED TO SAY? SO IN TERMS OF THE NEXT STEPS, YOU KNOW, AFTER, UH, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE, WHAT APPROACH WOULD YOU RECOMMEND TO THE TOWN FOR A TAKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS? YES, SUPERVISOR FIRE, MR. GARY HERE.
UM, I BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO BE AN ONGOING PROCESS AND, UM, NOW THAT WE, WE HAVE THIS, THIS EXCELLENT
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RESOURCE UPDATE, UM, WE, WE CAN TAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE HISTORIC AND LANDMARK PRESERVATION BOARD ON AREAS THAT THEY, UH, DEEM TO BE HIGHER PRIORITIES THAN OTHERS.UM, SO MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE, UH, TO USE OUR H AND L P B AS A RESOURCE TO SORT OF FILTER, UM, HIGH PRIORITIES AT THIS TIME AND, UM, MOVE FORWARD IN THAT FASHION.
I A BYPASS, UH, FRANCIS, COULD I ASK A QUESTION? UM, WHEN OR HOW IS THE TOWN BOARD GOING TO ADOPT THIS SURVEY? MUCH LIKE THEY DID THOUGH FISHER LARSON? WELL, IT'D BE HELPFUL IF WE HAD COPIES FIRST.
I WAS UNDER THE MISIMPRESSION THAT YOU WERE GIVEN HARD COPIES.
I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THAT WAS DONE.
I'M SURE YOU'LL GET THEM IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.
UM, I THINK YOU NEED TO KNOW THAT AT OUR FEBRUARY 21ST MEETING, THE HISTORIC AND LANDMARKS PRESERVATION BOARD UNANIMOUSLY VOTED THEIR SUPPORT AND APPRECIATION OF THE EASTERN SURVEY.
WE'D WORKED WITH EASTERN FOR ALMOST A YEAR.
WE'VE HAD THREE MEETINGS WITH THEM, AND, UM, AARON AND GARRETT HAVE HAD, YOU KNOW, PHONE CONVERSATIONS IF ANY QUESTIONS AROSE.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL GET THE COPIES, WE'LL READ THEM, AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL PLAN ON SCHEDULING CALENDAR.
OKAY, NEXT SUPERVISOR, SIR, OUR GIFT TO YOU IS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY.
IF THERE WERE ANY LAST QUESTIONS, YOU CAN CERTAINLY SAY IF YOU WISH, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY.
WELL AGAIN, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR, FOR INCLUDING US, UM, AND IT'S BEEN A REAL PLEASURE TO WORK IN GREENBURG AND WITH EVERYONE.
UM, SO WE WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING WHAT COMES NEXT.
OKAY, SO NEXT WE HAVE, UH, THE 9, 8, 5.
HEY ERIC, HOW ARE YOU? HOW YOU GOOD, GOOD, GOOD AFTERNOON.
WHEN ARE YOU, YOU NEVER GUESS
AND WHY DON'T YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELVES? DO YOU WANNA WEAR A MASK? NO, IT IS YOUR OPTION.
HELLO, I'M ERIC ZINGER, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE HARSDALE NEIGHBOR ASSOCIATION.
AND, UH, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING ALONG AND PUSHING THIS ISSUE FOR ALMOST FOUR YEARS NOW AT THIS POINT.
UM, ROBERT WILLIAMS, MAYOR VILLAGE OF ELWOOD.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY GONNA BE DISCUSSING GETTING AN UPDATE FROM, UH, THE NEW YORK STATE D O T AS TO THE STATUS OF, UH, THE NINE A BYPASS.
UH, CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES, YES, YES.
UM, YEAH, SO THANKS FOR HAVING US.
I'M THE REGIONAL DESIGN ENGINEER FOR, UH, REGION EIGHT, UH, D O T IN HUDSON VALLEY.
UH, MARK CROOK, THE PROJECT ENGINEER FOR THE, THE NINE A PROJECT, UM, IS, WAS UNABLE TO ATTEND TONIGHT.
HE HAD ANOTHER, UM, PREVIOUS COMMITMENTS.
SO I'LL JUST BE GIVING YOU A BRIEF, YOU KNOW, UPDATE ON, ON, YOU KNOW, THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE PROJECT.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TO SHARE, UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE MOST OF YOU'RE AWARE WHAT THE PROJECT PROPOSES TO DO, BUT I'LL JUST KIND OF, YOU KNOW, GIVE A, JUST A QUICK, UH, EXPLANATION.
BUT, UM, BASICALLY THE PROJECT PROPOSED TO CONSTRUCT A ROADWAY CONNECTING ROUTE ONE 19 AND THE 2 87, UM, EXIT, UH, RAMP TO NINE A AT WAREHOUSE LANE AND BYPASSING OBVIOUSLY THE CONGESTION.
IT'S ON, UM, NINE A AND ROUTE ONE 19, UM, INTERSECTION THAT YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY ARE AWARE OF.
UM, SO CURRENTLY WE ARE, UM, WORKING WITH OUR CONSULTANT CLEF HARBOR.
THEY'RE STILL ON BOARD, UM, WORKING THROUGH THE DRAFT, UM, UH, DESIGN REPORT, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT.
UM, THEY'RE PROGRESSING THAT I KNOW,
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UH, BACK, UH, PROBABLY OVER A YEAR AGO NOW.THERE WAS, UM, SOME STAKEHOLDER MEETINGS AND, UH, WITH THE LOCAL OFFICIALS AND, AND EVERYONE.
UM, AND THERE WAS, UH, A FEW DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVES.
I BELIEVE THERE WAS THREE AT THE TIME.
UM, THEY'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON A FOURTH ALTERNATIVE.
UM, REALLY THE, THE CONCEPT ITSELF IS THE SAME.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT ALIGNMENT, UM, REDUCING SOME OF THE CURVES IN THE ALIGNMENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, MAKING MORE OF A STRAIGHT, UM, PASS FROM, UH, FROM ONE 19 OVER TO THE WAREHOUSE LIEN CONNECTION.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY'RE FURTHER EVALUATING THAT DURING THEIR, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, PROCESS.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE WILL BE GETTING AN UPDATE FROM THEM AND A, A DRAFT REPORT, UM, TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, THAT'LL THAT POINT BE, YOU KNOW, DISPERSED INTERNALLY FOR REVIEW, UM, AND WITH OUR MAIN OFFICE, UH, GROUP, UM, TO FURTHER EVALUATE AND, UM, PROVIDE ANY COMMENTS.
UM, SO AT, YOU KNOW, AT THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL LOOK, UM, TO HOW WE PROCEED, UM, JUST TO KNOW.
AND I KNOW, UM, MARK, UH, CROOK AND, UM, OTHERS FROM THE OFFICE THAT YOU HAD CONTACT WITH HIS, UM, UPDATED CURRENTLY, WE STILL, THERE, THERE IS NO CONSTRUCTION FUNDS FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE WE'RE COMMITTED TO WORK THROUGH THE DESIGN APPROVAL PROCESS.
UM, AT THIS POINT THERE'S BEEN LIKE STUDIES AND, AND STUDIES AND STUDIES FOR PROBABLY 60 OR 70 YEARS.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, HOW LIKELY IS THIS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IS IT GONNA REALLY HAPPEN OR IS THERE GONNA BE ANOTHER STUDY AFTER THIS STUDY? AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE TIME PERIOD? I MEAN, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THERE COULD BE CONSTRUCTION, SAY A YEAR FROM NOW OR TWO YEARS FROM NOW? UM, WE'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BEFORE ANY OF US REACH A HUNDRED, BECAUSE UNDERST IS NOT, UH, THE, THE BYPASS ISSUE IS SHOULD THE TOWN BE CONSTANTLY, UM, PUTTING MONEY, UM, INTO A FUND THAT WE'RE NOT USING, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE BASICALLY STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY.
IT, IT ULTIMATELY ALL COMES DOWN TO THE FUNDING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, I, AT MY LEVEL, I DON'T, WE DON'T CONTROL THE, WHERE THE FUNDING COMES FROM AND, AND WHAT PROJECTS IT GOES TOWARDS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UM, WE'RE PROGRESSING THE PROJECT AS FAR AS WE CAN INTERNALLY AS AS FAR AS THE DESIGN GROUP.
UM, BUT IT ULTIMATELY COMES DOWN TO THE, UH, UH, GETTING THE FUNDING IT NEEDS, UM, TO BE CONSTRUCTED.
UM, IF THAT CASE, YOU KNOW, MOVING FORWARD, UM, THE, THE CURRENT, YOU KNOW, PLAN RIGHT NOW, YEAH, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, UH, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AND A HALF TO TWO YEARS THAT IT COULD BE CONSTRUCTED.
BUT AGAIN, THE FUNDING HAS TO BE MADE AVAILABLE FOR US TO, TO GET TO THAT POINT, TO PROCEED WITH AN ACTUAL PROJECT OBJECT.
WOULD THE, WOULD THAT BE, WOULD THE FUNDING BE, UH, YOU KNOW, WOULD THE STATE D O T HAVE CONTROL OVER THIS? OR WOULD THIS BE SENATOR SCHUMER? SENATOR GILLIBRAND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO REALLY GET AN ASSESSMENT AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE FUNDING IS GONNA BE, BE AVAILABLE TO US? YEAH, I THINK THAT THAT PROBABLY WOULD RISE TO THE LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, THOSE, THE SENATORS AND, UM, AND THOSE WHO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, CONTROL THE MONEY.
UM, YOU KNOW, HOW THAT COMES INTO THE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY, THE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, IN OUR PROGRAM, IT IS, AGAIN, IT'S ON THE PROGRAM TO, UM, FOR PRELIMINARY DESIGN, UM, BUT IT DOESN'T, AGAIN, DOESN'T HAVE THAT, UM, CONSTRUCTION FUNDING MADE AVAILABLE.
UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU, THIS IS A NEW ITERATION THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON, UM, BUT YOU SAID THE CHANGES AREN'T THAT VASTLY DIFFERENT FROM, UM, ALTERNATIVES ONE THROUGH THREE.
CAN YOU GIVE US ANY KIND OF GUESSTIMATE ON THE COST SO THAT OF THE ENTIRE PROJECT, KNOWING THAT FUNDING IS GONNA COME FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES, WHETHER IT'S STATE OR FED ALONG WITH THE TOWN AND PERHAPS AND THE, UH, COUNTY? SURE.
I MEAN THE, THE CURRENT, UH, UM, ALTERNATIVES AND I THINK THAT ARE BEING EVALUATED AND I, I DON'T HAVE, UH, WE DON'T HAVE A DEFINED NUMBER AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, UNTIL WE GET FURTHER INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN, INTO THE DESIGN PROCESS.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S PROBABLY IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF, UM, $60 MILLION IN, IN SOMEWHERE
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IN THERE.AND THE TOWN'S PORTION WOULD BE, IS IT 25%? DO, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE MATCH SHOULD BE? THERE'S NO TER NO, THERE'S NO DETERMINATION AT THIS TIME AS TO WHAT THE TOWN'S PORTION WOULD BE, OR IT HAS TO BE.
AND I THINK THE THING THAT I THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO DECIDE IS WHAT OUR PLAN IS GOING FORWARD.
AS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, YOU KNOW, THERE IS, IT'S CLEAR, THERE IS NO SOURCE OF FUNDING THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY RIGHT NOW.
IT IS A HOPE AND A DREAM THAT THE STATE OR THE FED WILL COME IN.
WE JUST PASSED THE LARGEST INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING BILL IN AMERICAN HISTORY, AND THERE IS NO TALK OR NO CHATTER, NOTHING.
NO ONE IS SAYING THIS IS ON THE TABLE FOR THEM.
SO THE QUESTION FOR THE TOWN BOARD IS, DO WE THINK KNOWING OUR LIMITED RESOURCES, WHICH WE DON'T LIVE IN A WORLD OF INFINITE RESOURCES, DO WE THINK THE BEST WAY OF FUNDING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE TOWN IS SEGREGATING PROPERTY TAXES IN THOSE AREAS TO ONLY BE SPECIFICALLY USED FOR THOSE AREAS? AND IF THE ANSWER IS YES, I THINK THE ANSWER IS NO.
IF THE ANSWER IS YES, THE QUESTION BECOMES WHY ONLY THIS LOCATION? THE OTHER THING EXPERIENCE HAS MADE, I THOUGHT A, A REASONABLE, A GOOD COMPROMISE IDEA.
WHAT WAS THAT? I THOUGHT YOU CAME UP WITH, COULD YOU REPEAT THAT JUST ONE MORE TIME? YEAH.
I THOUGHT YOU CAME UP WITH A GOOD, UH, UH, A COMPROMISE SUGGESTION WHERE WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING RID OF THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TIFF FUND, THE PREVIOUS TIFF FUNDING, BUT YOU BASICALLY SAID, GOING FORWARD, YOU WANT TO HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, YOUR SUGGESTION, RIGHT? INSTEAD OF DOING THE A BUDGET AND THE B BUDGET, UH, WE WOULD DO THE, A BUDGET MAY I, AND IT KEEPS THE TIFF DISTRICT ALIVE.
UM, BUT IT, IT, IT ADDRESSES THE CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE BIG, THE BIG AMOUNT.
THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT SOLUTION.
THAT'S NOW WE'RE TALKING $5,000 A YEAR INSTEAD OF 300.
98% OF THE FUNDING COMES FROM T O V PROPERTIES.
SO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT EXCLUDING THE B BUDGET, WHAT THAT THEORETICALLY DOES FROM A LEGAL STANDPOINT IS YOU KEEP THE, UH, DISTRICT ALIVE.
NO ONE, ESPECIALLY MYSELF, IS ARGUING THAT THE MONEY, THE $6 MILLION OR SO THAT'S ALREADY IN THE PLOT IN THE FUND, BE USED FOR ANY PURPOSE OTHER THAN THE DESIGNATED PURPOSE.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SIPHON THAT AWAY, BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS PRIMARILY FUNDED BY T O V.
IF WE WERE TO REMOVE THAT FROM THE B BUDGET AND ONLY HAVE A BUDGET, UH, TAXES, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A, A GREAT SOLUTION GOING FORWARD.
CAN I, LEMME YES, YES, PLEASE.
DO WE NEED, DO WE NEED THE GENTLEMAN, UM, FOR THIS DISCUSSION? CAN I, 'CAUSE HE DOES.
AND MR. ADVISOR, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I THINK THE R'S AND ORANGES LOOKING, YOUR CONVERSATION IS GOING ON HERE.
UM, TO ADDRESS THE, UH, D O T FIRST, UM, I'VE BEEN ON A BOARD FOR 30 YEARS IN A VILLAGE AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN ACTIVELY INVOLVED IN THIS.
AND THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT ALL THE ENTITIES AGREED ON THE CONCEPT.
THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THE VILLAGE JUMP THROUGH THE TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT, THE COUNTY, THE STATE, AND EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND WE LEFT IT OFF A FEW YEARS AGO ON THE, THE THIRD RAMP WOULD COME DOWN, UH, RIGHT NOW ONE COMES DOWN, MAKES IT RIGHT TO 1 19, 1 MAKES A LEFT TO GO TO SAWMILL NORTH.
WELL, IT WOULD COME DOWN STRAIGHT AND YOU CAN GO LEFT OR RIGHT, RIGHT? WOULD GO TO ONE 19 LEFT, WOULD GO TO THE BYPASS, UM, AND THEN IT WOULD GO OUT TO WAREHOUSE LANE.
AND, AND NOW, UM, THE VILLAGE HAS ALREADY COMMITTED TO GIVING YOU A RIGHT OF WAY TO GO THROUGH THE VILLAGE PROPERTY.
THAT'S THE OLD STUMP DUMP NEXT TO THE DOG POUND.
AND THE, UH, WE HAVE AN ACCESS OF A RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH IS OVER THE TOWN PROPERTY TO GET IN AND OUT OF WAREHOUSE LANE TO GET TO OUR PROPERTY.
SO WE'VE ALREADY AGREED TO ALL THAT.
UM, OUR STANDPOINT IS IT'S A GOOD START.
THE ACTUAL BEST ROUTE WOULD BE TO GO, TO GO UP TO DANA ROAD OR SOMETHING.
AND THE SUPERVISOR AND I HAD TALKED ABOUT THAT WITH EVERYBODY ELSE YEARS AGO, UM, EVEN ROBERT MARTIN HAD OFFERED TO GIVE UP TWO OF HIS BUILDINGS THERE THAT WERE IN THE WAY OF THE PROJECT.
HE SAID HE'D ALREADY MADE HIS MONEY ON THE, ON THE BUILDINGS AND HE WOULD, YOU KNOW, GET RID OF THEM AND YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, UH, CONTINUE TO BYPASS.
UM, THE FURTHER YOU GET THE BYPASS NORTH OUT OF THAT INTERSECTION, THE BETTER IT WILL BE UTILIZED.
UM, THIS IS ALSO THE FIRST TIME THAT ALL ENTITIES AGREED THAT IT WOULD BE A TWO-WAY NORTH AND SOUTH.
YEARS AGO IT WAS JUST GONNA BE NORTH.
UM, SO THIS IS GOOD THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY HAD FINALLY AGREED TO THAT.
WE, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSTANT, UM, UPDATING.
AND WHEN WE LEFT IT OFF, YOU GUYS WE'RE GONNA DO THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY AND ALL THAT AND GET US BACK WITH A FINAL PLAN TO LET US KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT'S GONNA GO THROUGH THE VILLAGE PROPERTY AND THE TOWN.
UM, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE TOWN BOARD, BUT YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE VILLAGE IS IN FAVOR OF IT FOR A LOT OF REASONS.
ONE, THE TRAFFIC AND TWO, UM, THE, THE TRUE BYPASS REMEMBER, UM, WILL CREATE A LOT OF, UH, GOOD THINGS.
NOT JUST THE TRAFFIC OUTTA THE VILLAGE IN THE TOWN,
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BUT, UM, FLOODING ISSUES AND FLOODING IS GETTING WORSE.SO EVERY TIME IT FLOODS AND THE INTERSECTION, THE FIRST INTERSECTION TO FLOOD IS WAREHOUSE LAND NINE A, THAT'S THE FIRST ONE OF FLOODS, AND THEN IT GOES SOUTH INTO THE VILLAGE.
SO THERE'S BEEN X AMOUNT OF FLOODS OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS WHERE THAT ENTIRE QUARTER HAS SHUT DOWN, INCLUDING ONE 19 OVER THE SOIL MILL RIVER.
AND I'VE HAD 150 TRACTOR TRAILERS BACKED UP ON ONE 19 WAITING TO GET TO THE DISTRIBUTION CENTERS IN THE TOWN, WHICH THEY CAN'T GET TO.
WHICH THAT AREA OF WAREHOUSE LANE AND FAIRVIEW PARK DRIVE AND, AND UH, EXECUTIVE PARK ARE ALL HUGE, JUST MAJOR, JUST MAJOR, MAJOR DISTRIBUTION FOR BIG COMPANIES.
UM, AND THEY GOT SHUT DOWN FOR DAYS AND, YOU KNOW, PRODUCT STOPPED.
SO THE IDEA, IF YOU WERE TO GET THE NINE EIGHT BYPASS TO GO A LITTLE BIT FURTHER THAN WAREHOUSE LANE, YOU WOULD BYPASS THAT FLOODING.
SO NOW WHEN NINE EIGHT DOES SHUT DOWN, UH, DUE TO FLOODING, AND UH, ACTUALLY TO BACKTRACK, THERE WAS A FIRE THERE A FEW YEARS AGO IN NINE A AND IT HAPPENS TO BE IN OUR FIRE DISTRICT.
SO MY FIRE DEPARTMENT WENT OUT AND THE HOSES ACROSS ARE BLOCKED ACROSS NINE A.
SO THAT SHUTS DOWN TRAFFIC AGAIN FOR, YOU KNOW, MANY HOURS AND EVERYTHING STOPS.
SO, UM, WITH THE BYPASS THERE, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CONTINUE FROM ONE 19 ALL THE WAY UP TO DANA ROAD, AND IF IT DID FLOOD, YOU WOULD BYPASS ALL THE FLOODING.
SO, UM, OUR POSITION IS, I KNOW THE TOWN AND EVERYBODY ELSE'S POSITION WOULD BE GO TO DANA ROAD NO FURTHER.
UM, OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT NOW.
SO OUR STANCE IS YES, WE WOULD BE HAPPY WITH YOU STARTING WITH THAT PORTION OF IT AND THEN LATER COMING BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND GO FURTHER.
UM, BUT IF YOU REALLY WANNA MAKE IT WORK, YOU HAVE TO GO FURTHER IN WAREHOUSE LANE.
UM, AGAIN, WE'RE SUPPORTING THE WAREHOUSE LANE PROJECT AS OF NOW, THE 90 BYPASS.
SO THERE, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT WAY BEFORE I WAS BORN AND, UM, AS THE SUPERVISOR MENTIONED FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
SO WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN.
UM, I KNOW THAT THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE WOULD BE HAPPY TO LOBBY THE OFFICIALS TO DO THAT.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE, UH, TIF MONEY SHOULD GO INTO THAT PROJECT.
I THINK THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD FUND THAT.
I THINK THE TIF MONEY SHOULD BE, UH, MORE LOCALLY ADDRESSED TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE GONNA BENEFIT FROM THAT, THAT PUT MONEY INTO IT, UM, THAT WON'T BENEFIT ANY OF THE ENTITIES THAT PUT MONEY INTO IT.
UM, THAT THE NINE EIGHT BYPASS WON'T.
UM, NOW TO DEVIATE FROM THE, UH, INTO THE, THE TIF FUND, UM, OUR POSITION IS, AND I SPOKE TO MANY PROPERTY OWNERS THIS PAST WEEK, AND ESPECIALLY THE LARGEST PROPERTY OWNER IN THE DISTRICT WHO'S PAID THE MOST INTO IT AND HAS BEEN THERE THE LONGEST.
THAT THEIR POSITION TOO WOULD BE JUST, HAS BEEN BROUGHT UP AS COUNCILMAN CHIN BROUGHT UP, IS SUSPENDED NOW, DON'T COLLECT ANY MORE MONEY PUT INTO IT, LEAVE IT THERE BECAUSE IT'S NOT FAIR THAT YOU WOULD TAKE THE MONEY AWAY AFTER THEY PUT ALL THAT MONEY INTO IT.
YES, THERE HAS BEEN SOME MINOR IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, TWO YEARS AGO THE TOWN HELPED US PAY FOR SOME ROAD REPAIRS, UM, IN THERE, IT WAS IN THE VILLAGE.
UM, WE DID DO A SEWER, UM, AND YOU DID PAVE THE ROADS 40 YEARS AGO.
UM, AND IF I SEE THE COMMISSIONERS HERE OF PUBLIC WORKS HERE, SO IF SOMEDAY HE COULD DIG OUT THOSE, THOSE RECORDS OF HOW THOSE ROADS WERE PAVED 40 YEARS AGO, THEY ARE THE BEST ROADS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG AND HAS THE MOST HEAVIEST TRAFFIC ON THEM.
AND THERE'S NOT A POTHOLE ON THEM, AND THERE HASN'T BEEN IN 40 YEARS.
UH, THE ROADS WERE BUILT FROM SCRATCH WHERE THERE WAS A ICE STORM BEING BUILT MYSELF, UM, WHERE THEY, THEY STARTED ALL OVER AGAIN AND PUT A MESH IN THERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY DID, COMMISSIONER, BUT, UM, ED, YES.
UM, SO I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING TO, TO LOOK AT WHY THOSE ROLES ARE SO GOOD.
BUT, UM, SOME OF THE SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE AS A YEARLY MAINTENANCE OF THE AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE CATCH BASINS DO COLLAPSE BECAUSE OF THE HEAVY TRUCKS.
UM, AND THE COMMISSIONER'S ALWAYS OUT THERE, UM, FIXING THEM.
UM, AFTER ALL THE FLOODS AND STUFF, THE DEBRIS LANDS THERE BECAUSE THAT'S THE BOWL, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE BOTTOM OF THE BOWL.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT FILLS UP THERE AND THEN EVERYTHING COMES THERE, ALL THE DEBRIS AND STUFF.
SO HE'S KIND ENOUGH TO SEND PEOPLE OVER THERE TO PICK THE DEBRIS UP.
SO I THINK THE MONEY IN TIFFON SHOULD BE USED FOR THAT.
AND ANY OTHER REPAIRS THAT WOULD COME UP, YOU KNOW, IN THAT AREA, A YEARLY MAINTENANCE, UM, THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE PARTNERED TWICE TO ALREADY CLEAN UP THE RIVER OF A LOT OF DEBRIS INSTEAD OF THE TOWN EXPENSING TO GET RID OF THAT, THAT MONEY SHOULD COME OUTTA TO FUND.
I THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S BRILLIANT.
I MEAN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IT'S UH, I MEAN IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, WELL I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S GOOD.
SO GOING FORWARD WE COULD BASICALLY, UM, JOE, WE COULD PREPARE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENT, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND MAYBE WOULD WE, I GUESS WE WOULD'VE TO PUT A, HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT.
AND IF, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGE AND, UM, AND THE TOWN, IF WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER, AND THEN WE COULD COME UP WITH, UM, UH, A, A WAY OF USING THE FUNDS.
YOU KNOW, WE ARE BOTH THE VILLAGE AND THE TOWN ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO, UM, TO MAKE SURE THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, IS DONE, YOU KNOW, COOPERATIVELY.
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AND THEN IF THE NINE EIGHT BYPASS, UH, EVER IT BECOMES A REALITY, THEN WE COULD USE THAT, THAT $6 MILLION.I MEAN, THAT, THAT WAS GREAT CONVERSATION WHERE WE HAD OFFERED, YOU KNOW, TO USE THAT MONEY FOR TWO PROJECTS.
ONE WAS TO PAY SOME OF THE 90 BYPASS, AND THE SECOND ONE WAS TO, UM, IF THEY EVER DID THE FLOODING, UM, THAT WE COULD USE SOME OF THE MONEY.
THAT OBVIOUSLY THAT'S A DROP IN THE BUCKET FOR THOSE PROJECTS.
BUT, UH, THE CONCEPT WAS IT COULD PAY FOR SOMEBODY ENGINEERING TO SPEED UP THE PROJECT AND TO GET IT ROLLING.
UM, AS YOU TO BACK UP ON, AND I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS IF YOU DON'T MIND ON THE FLOODING.
THE LAST TIME WE LEFT THAT MEETING WAS, UM, FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, THEY, THEY DID FIVE STUDIES ON THAT SOUL MILL RIVER ALREADY.
AND EACH ONE COSTS $5 MILLION.
AND I BROUGHT UP AT THE LAST MEETING TO THE ARMY CORPS THAT WHY DO ANOTHER COMPLETE STUDY, TAKE THE OLD ONE, DUST IT OFF, AND TWEAK IT FROM WHAT WAS ADDED AND DELETED, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAM'S CLUB.
UM, SO THE, UH, ARMY CORPS AGREED THAT WAS A GREAT IDEA.
SO FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER, THE ARMY CORPS WAS GOING TO, UM, NOT ONLY DO A DESIGN, UM, A STUDY, BUT ALSO DESIGN HOW TO FIX IT.
SO THAT WAS THE FIRST TIME THEY EVER, THOSE WORDS EVER CAME OUTTA THEIR MOUTH.
THEY ALSO SAID THE ARMY CORPS WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT COMMITTED TO THE PROJECT AND TO FUNDING IT.
AND MOST OF THE MONEY COMES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND DON'T QUOTE ME, BUT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 12 AND 18% HAS TO COME FROM THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND THE PROJECT WOULD'VE BEEN DONE.
UH, THE REASON WHY THE STATE DENIED THE PROJECT IS BECAUSE THEY LOOK IT AS LOSS.
EVERYBODY IN THAT DISTRICT HAS BEEN FLOODED SINCE TIME BEGAN.
SO WHAT THEY DO IS IT FLOODS, THEY WASH IT DOWN, THEY OPEN UP THE NEXT DAY, THEY DON'T SUBMIT CLAIMS ANYMORE BECAUSE THE INSURANCE CLAIMS ARE A MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR FOR INSURANCE.
SO THEY JUST CLEAN UP, GO BACK TO WORK AND DON'T FILE CLAIMS. BUT WHEN THE STATE LOOKS AT THAT PROJECT AND THEY SAY THERE HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH LOSS IN THE AREA BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ENOUGH INSURANCE CLAIMS, BUT WE ALL KNOW THAT THERE IS, BUT FROM, FROM LOSS OF PRODUCT, FROM LOSS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THEIR BUILDINGS LOSS OF WORK, UM, AND ACTUAL, UH, DAMAGE TO BUILDINGS AND VEHICLES AND STUFF.
UM, BUT THEY, UM, THEY WON'T FUND IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT ON PAPER.
SECOND, I'M WONDERING JUST, I MEAN, YOU, YOU DID, YOU SHOULD LOBBY THE STATE.
YOU DID SEGUE, BUT YES, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT THAT EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T USE INSURANCE, THAT THEY DOCUMENTED THE EXPENSES.
SO, SO WAS THAT SUBMITTED TO THE STATE? AND THEY DIDN'T, IT DOESN'T COUNT CA COUNT IT.
YEAH, THEY WANNA LOCATE, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOBBY OUR REPRESENTATIVES IN THE STATE TO FUND IT.
'CAUSE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WAS COMMITTED.
THE ARMY CORPS WAS COMMITTED TO IT, BUT NOT, UM, THE STATE.
I HAD A QUESTION FOR YOU PLEASE.
AND ALSO FOR RICH, UM, UH, ONE OF THE INITIATIVES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TAKING IS WE WANNA SPEND, GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION TO FLOOD, YOU KNOW, FLOOD CONTROL, THE FLOOD, THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS FLOOD INITIATIVE, WHICH THEY WERE STUDYING FOR EVEN LONGER THAN THE NINE EIGHT BYPASS, LIKE PROBABLY 90 YEARS ALREADY.
UH, YOU KNOW, THEY SPENT MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON IT.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
UH, BUT THE THING IS, I'M WONDERING IF WE HAVE SAY $7 MILLION JUST FOR FLOODING, YOU KNOW, THAT THE TOWN WOULD CONTRIBUTE.
AND THEN WE CAME UP WITH A PACKAGE AND WE SAID TO, YOU KNOW, TO SENATOR GILLIBRAND, TO SENATOR SCHUMER, TO CONGRESSMAN BOWMAN, WE SAID, LISTEN, COULD YOU GIVE US $10 MILLION? YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? $10 MILLION OR $15 MILLION, IT DOESN'T HAVE LIKE THAT PLUS $7 MILLION WITH, IF WE HAD A CHUNK OF, YOU KNOW, MONEY, BUT IT'S NOT A FULL FLOODING FLOOD RELIEF PROGRAM, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO MAKE A DENT IN IN THAT AREA? AND BECAUSE I'M, I'M SORT OF WONDERING, COULD WE COME UP WITH AN, LIKE A INFRASTRUCTURE INITIATIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE COULD ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, DONE AND GET SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT, YOU KNOW? WELL, MAY I, MAY I ASK, I CAN TELL YOU FIRSTHAND THAT THE, THE PROJECT THAT THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE DID ON CLEANING THE TREES THAT FELL ACROSS THE RIVER HELPED BIG TIME FOR LIKE 10 YEARS.
I MEAN, THERE WERE HOW MANY DOZENS AND DOZENS OF TREES THAT WERE ACROSS THE RIVER, BUT THAT IMPEDED THE FLOW AND THE FACT THE RIVER FLOODED.
SO, BUT IF, IF I MAY, YOU KNOW, THE ARMY CORPS WAS HESITANT BECAUSE THEY DID A COUPLE OF STUDIES AND THEY BASICALLY SAID, WE'VE DONE STUDIES AND DIDN'T GO THROUGH WHAT, AND SO, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DIDN'T WANT US, WE DON'T WANT YOU BASICALLY.
BUT I THINK IN THE NEW INFRASTRUCTURE PACKAGE, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR LIKE SHOVEL READY ISH PROJECTS, OR I THINK I DID SEE SOMETHING ABOUT THAT AND IT'S WORTH LOOKING INTO.
AND YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE IS FUNDING FED AND STATE AND, AND MAKE, AND IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO LOBBY OUR STATE AND AND FEDERAL OFFICIALS TO, OR OUR STATE OFFICIALS TO, UM,
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ALLOW THE, THE DOCUMENTATION THAT SUBSTANTIATES THE EXPENSE FOR IT.IT'S THE HISTORY OF THE, THE SOMAN RIVER AS YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO DO THE BOTTOM END FIRST.
SO THEY DID YONKERS, THEY DID OURS.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO COME TO VAIN ELMSFORD AND THEY NEVER GOT HERE.
SO IN ALL FAIRNESS, YOU KNOW, THE PROJECT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE DEAD.
RIGHT? UM, IT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID, BECAUSE OF ALL THAT, THE STATE DIDN'T RECOGNIZE IT YET, BUT I THINK IF THEY WERE REALLY MADE AWARE, LIKE, UM, THEY FLOOD MORE TIMES THAN EREK DID.
AND MEER GOT THE GOOD PRESS AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY FELT BAD FOR ALL THE HOMES IN MEER.
NO DISRESPECT FOR EVERYBODY'S WATCHING ERDI.
BUT, UM, WELL THERE WAS SOME LIFE LOST GREEN.
WE WAS FLOODING A LOT MORE AND A LOT WORSE THAN, THAN MEER DID.
AND, UM, BUT THEY GOT THE GOOD PRESS AND THEY SAID, WELL, LET'S GO TO EMER AND FIX THAT.
WELL, MR. MAYOR CAN, IF YOU CAN RESURRECT THAT STUDY, I SUGGEST AMONG WOLF CITY, WELL, WE, WE HAVE THEM, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE THEM.
I, I SUGGESTED TO, UM, SOMEBODY AND THAT WE SHOULD GET TOGETHER WITH THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY HOSTED THOSE MEETINGS.
THEY WERE DONE IN THE, UH, PLANNING COMMISSION, UM, UM, COMMISSION'S OFFICE.
I FORGET NORMA, NORMA DRUMMOND.
UM, UH, THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO.
AND EXECUTIVE SPANNO WAS, WAS IN, WAS THERE.
UM, BUT I KNOW THAT COUNTY EXECUTIVE, VLADIMIR WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO DO THAT BECAUSE HE HAS CONTACTED ME AFTER THE FLOODING MM-HMM.
HE SAID, YOU KNOW, BOBBY, WHAT CAN WE DO? WELL, HOW CAN WE WORK TOGETHER TO HELP THIS? RIGHT.
I KNOW THAT THE TOWN IS, SO I, I THINK THAT WE SHOULD ASK THE COUNTY TO RECONVENE THOSE PLAYERS, INCLUDING THE D O T, UM, AND GET THEM AT THE TABLE AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN WE DO TO GET THIS GOING AGAIN? OKAY.
THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY SHOULD ADDRESS.
IT IS TAKING US A LITTLE BIT THE FEEL FROM THE T DISTRICT, SO WE SHOULD YEAH, BUT BRING IT BACK.
BUT, BUT GOING BACK TO, TO THE D O T, UM, I, I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THE TOWN SHOULD SPEND MONEY YET.
I THINK THAT THE, THE STATE AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD FUND THAT.
YOU KNOW, LET'S SAVE THE MONEY FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE AREA THAT PUT MONEY INTO IT.
'CAUSE THE 90 BYPASS WON'T BENEFIT ANYBODY IN THE DISTRICT.
IT DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR THEM.
SO WHY SHOULD WE SPEND OUR MONEY TO THAT? WELL, IT WILL HELP THEM GET OUT OF THEIR SIDE STREETS.
NO, BECAUSE SOME OF THEM CAN'T GET ONTO THE, THE BYPASS.
AND IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN BEAVER HILL AND YOU'RE NOT WAITING FOR ALL THESE TRUCKS, THE BIGGEST TRAFFIC THAT COMES OUTTA HERE, UM, COMES UP THERE IN THE MORNING, IS THE COUNTY FROM THE TRANSFER STATION IN YONKERS.
THAT'S THE MOST TRAFFIC THAT YOU GET.
UM, BUT THE TRAFFIC ISN'T AS BAD SINCE THEY FIXED THE, THEY WENT FROM AN F MINUS TO AN F INTO 1 19 98 SQUARE.
YOU KNOW, THEY MADE THE, THE LEFT TURN LANE LONGER.
SO IT'S NOT AS BAD AS IT USED TO BE.
IT WENT THERE WAS AN F MINUS FOR AN 40 YEARS NOW IT'S NOW IT'S AN F.
ERIC, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE ONE TO SAY SOMETHING.
I MEAN, I'M JUST, IF THE TIFF DISTRICT NINE A BYPASS IS NOT EVEN GOING TO BENEFIT THE PEOPLE, THE, THE NINE A PROPERTY OWNERS, IT JUST, IF THAT'S REALLY THE CASE, IT JUST SEEMS A NO-BRAINER TO STOP CONTRIBUTING MONEY.
WE'VE, WE JUST TALKED FOR 30 MINUTES, RIGHT? WE ARE NO CLOSER TO A SOURCE OF FUNDING FOR THIS THAN WE WERE WHEN WE STARTED.
THERE IS NO SOURCE OF FUNDING UNTIL THAT BECOMES, AND FOR 70 YEARS IT HASN'T BECOME A REALISTIC PROPOSITION.
AND WE, THIS IS ONE HALF OF 1% OF OUR PROPERTY TAXES EVERY YEAR IN THE T O V AREA.
THAT IS NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SO IF WE TALK ABOUT A WORLD OF FINITE RESOURCES, I WANNA BRING IT BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD'S ROLE IN THIS PROCESS.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE AT THE TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION AND THAT THE TOWN BOARD'S ROLE IN THIS PROCESS IS TO DECIDE HOW WE SHOULD BEST INVEST AND ALLOCATE OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
AND THE QUESTION BEFORE YOU IS, DO WE THINK SEGREGATING PROPERTY TAXES FROM CERTAIN AREAS OF THE TOWN TO ONLY SPECIFICALLY BENEFIT THOSE AREAS OF THE TOWN IS THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IN A LIMITED RESOURCES ENVIRONMENT WHEN THERE IS NO IMMEDIATE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE A YEAR AND A HALF AWAY FROM A STUDY.
WE'RE 25 YEARS AWAY FROM FINDING THE MONEY, RIGHT.
THE MONEY IS JUST NOT ON THE TABLE.
AND I KNOW THAT THE MAYOR IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND VERY EXCITED TO SPEND TIFF MONEY, WHICH PRIMARILY 98% COMES FROM T O V RESIDENTS TO CLEAN UP THE ELMSFORD AREA.
I KNOW HE'S VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHO IS FUNDING THIS AND WHETHER THAT IS THE BEST USE OF OUR TAX DOLLARS.
AND THAT'S WHY I'VE ASKED THE TOWN BOARD TO CONSIDER STOP ALLOCATING $295,000 A YEAR THAT COULD DESPERATELY BE USED FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE FOR E M T, FOR POLICE, FOR PARKS, FOR ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE AN IMMEDIATE NEED FOR AND ALLOCATE THAT MONEY TO OUR EXISTING NEEDS.
BUT THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S ON THAT 20 MINUTES AGO, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I JUST SAID, THAT'S THE EXACT SAME THING YOU JUST SAID THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE USED, BUT YOU ALSO ALSO
YOU ALSO, IF YOU REMEMBER THAT, UM, THERE WERE ALSO SEWER DISTRICTS IN EVERY COMMUNITY AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT PUT SEWERS IN COMMUNITIES PAID TAX JUST TO THAT SEWER DISTRICT.
THAT'S NO DIFFERENT FROM A TIFF DISTRICT.
WELL THAT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY VERY DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT AT ALL BECAUSE THE SEWERS ONLY BENEFIT THOSE PEOPLE.
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JUST LIKE THE ROLL CONSTRUC, FINISH, FINISH.I'M TALKING THE SEWER DISTRICT IS A SEPARATE ADDITIONAL TAX, TAX DATE.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TIF DISTRICT.
DO WE NEED THE GENTLEMEN FROM, DO WE NEED A GENTLE, I JUST, JUST ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE, OKAY.
SO I JUST, SO IF YEAH, LET'S BE, WAIT, LET'S BE MINDFUL AND RESPECTFUL TO THE GENTLEMAN'S TIME.
DO WE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR YEAH, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
UH, LAST YEAR, UM, UH, WHEN I WENT TO THE PO CROSS, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, THE ANIMAL NO KILL ANIMAL SHELTER, THEY WERE CONCERNED BECAUSE THEIR BUILDING, ACTUALLY, THEY'RE WELL COMPLETED.
I, I'M PRETTY SURE, UM, THEIR, UM, A NEW BUILDING AND IT WAS RIGHT NEAR THE PROPOSED NINE A BYPASS.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT IT.
AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THE NEW DESIGN, UH, IMPACT WILL IMPACT, UH, OR PUT THE PAUSE CROSS NEW BUILDING IN JEOPARDY.
UH, THAT'S A QUESTION FOR MR. RE RIGHT? THE QUESTION? YEAH, THAT WAS OKAY.
UM, I MEAN, YOU GUYS WERE FAMILIAR WITH THE OLD, UM, ALTERNATIVES ONE THROUGH THREE, CORRECT? YES, YES.
SO, SO REALLY THE, THE, THE MEAN CHANGE WITH THAT, THE FOURTH ALTERNATIVE THAT THEY'RE, UH, THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY LOOKING AT, IT REALLY IS JUST MORE OF AN ALIGNMENT CHANGE FROM, UH, THE INTERSECTION OFF THE RAMP WHERE YOU CAN COME DOWN FROM 2 87, TAKE THE LEFT RIGHT FROM THERE UNDERNEATH 2 87 VIADUCT, AND, AND WHERE IT ACTUALLY TIES, IT TIES BACK IN ON THE CURVE, UM, UH, BY THE, THE ANIMAL SANCTUARY THERE.
SO THE ANIMAL SHELTER WOULD NOT BE, SO THERE'S VERY, THERE'S VERY LITTLE CHANGE.
WHAT I WAS SAYING, TRYING TO, UH, SAY, I THINK THERE WAS THE D O T JUST SAID THERE, DID THAT TIE IN POINT THERE AND, AND THE ALIGNMENT AT THAT POINT.
UM, SO THE IMPACTS THAT WERE THERE KIND OF WITH THE PREVIOUS ALTERNATIVES, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY STILL EXIST WITH THIS ONE.
UM, I WOULDN'T SAY IT MAKES IT ANY WORSE OR, UM, BETTER, BUT I THINK THERE WAS 27.
I THINK THERE WAS, I THINK THERE WAS SOME, I WHEN WE WERE THERE, WHAT, A YEAR AGO, WHENEVER IT WAS, WE WERE THERE, I WAS WEARING A DIFFERENT HAT BEING THERE, BUT, UM, I THINK THERE WAS SOME POTENTIAL CONFLICT, GARRETT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
UM, AND I WONDER IF THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THAT MAKE SURE THAT THE STATE KNOWS THAT THERE HAS BEEN A CHANGE TO THE PROPERTY SO THAT BEFORE YOU PROCEED WITH THE, YOUR ALTERNATIVE FOUR, YOU MAKE SURE TO MAKE ACCOMMODATIONS IF THAT'S NECESSARY, JUST TO SURVEY THAT BUILDING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO CONFLICT.
WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND SEE, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, SEE IF THAT IS, UH, HAS CHANGED ANYTHING PART OF THE CURRENT PLAN.
THE, THE LAST ONE WENT UNDER 2 87, LIKE YOU SAID, IT MADE A SHARP, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO WOULD BE THAT WE HAVE THE VACANT PROPERTY THERE.
SO WOULD WOULD GO THROUGH THAT ON A PIECE OF IT, ON THE, ON THE MOST, UH, SOUTHERN SIDE OF IT AND THEN GET TO THE BIKE PATH AND MAKE IT LEFT.
THERE WAS SOME CONFLICT FAR AWAY FROM THE, OKAY.
'CAUSE THERE WAS SOME POTENTIAL CONFLICT, I THINK WITH THE PARKING AREA.
IT'S JUST MAKING SURE THAT YEAH, IT'S JUST DOING THAT DOUBLE CHECK.
SO NOW THAT THE STATE IS AWARE, THEY CAN, THEY CAN DO THE SURVEY AND MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS COPACETIC.
SO, SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE GONNA CHANGE THE LAW.
WE, UH, WHAT'S THE TIME PERIOD THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD BASICALLY IN ENACT? SO IS THIS QUESTION, IS THIS QUESTION, BECAUSE YOU NEED, YOU NEED TO, NO, WE DON'T NEED IT.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HOLD ON, MARK, BEFORE YOU GET TOO HAPPY ABOUT SIGNING OFF,
WHEN IS, WHAT IS YOUR NEXT BENCHMARK THAT YOU INTEND TO REACH AND WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU WILL REACH IT? AGAIN, LIKE I MENTIONED EARLIER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET THAT DRAFT, UH, DESIGN APPROVAL DOCUMENT, UM, FROM THE CONSULTANT, THE, THE DRAFT, UH, EA.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, LOOK AT THAT.
WE WOULD DO AN INTERNAL REVIEW, AND AGAIN, THAT WOULD BE COMING LATER, THE END OF THE, TOWARDS THE END OF THIS YEAR.
THE SECOND PART WILL COME LATER TO THE END OF THE YEAR, OR YOU'LL GET THE DRAFT AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
YOU GAVE US TWO, TWO, UH, BENCHMARKS, BASICALLY.
ONE, YOU GETTING A DOCUMENT AND THEN YOU REVIEWING IT.
WHAT, WHAT IS HAPPENING BY THE END OF THE YEAR? YEAH, TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR.
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AGAIN.UM, I'LL FOR BOTH, FOR BOTH, BUT ONCE WE DO HAVE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NORMALLY SOMETHING THAT ONCE WE HAVE INTERNAL REVIEW AND IT'S IN OUR HANDS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TURN THOSE REVIEWS AROUND, UM, INTERNALLY IN OUR REGION, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A FEW WEEKS, UH, TO A MONTH AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN ALSO WE WOULD BE SENDING TO OUR MAIN OFFICE, UH, COUNTERPARTS AS WELL TO REVIEW.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND THANK YOU.
UH, WE'LL BE, UH, PROBABLY CONTACTING YOU FOR A SIMILAR SETUP, UH, AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO WE ALL ON THE SAME, HOLD ON ON, I JUST WANTED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FROM EARLIER, SO WAIT A MINUTE.
YEAH, BUT WE DON'T NEED, OKAY.
REALLY APPRECIATE, HAVE TO CONTACT US AND UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT AND, UH, WE'LL BE IN TOUCH.
JOE, JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION FROM EARLIER, UM, HOW DO WE CHANGE THE PLAN? THE STATE LAW DOES ALLOW FOR AMENDMENTS TO TIF DISTRICTS, AND YOU'RE RIGHT, A PUBLIC HEARING WOULD BE NEEDED AND A RESOLUTION WOULD ULTIMATELY NEED TO BE PASSED.
SO COULD YOU, SO WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
COULD WE JUST SUMMARIZE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE? WE'VE GOTTA REMOVE THE B BUDGET FUNDING.
WELL, AND YOU, WE SHOULD ALSO TAKE A LOOK AT EXACTLY WHAT WORK WAS APPROVED IN THE FIRST RESOLUTION APPROVED IN EIGHTIES, AND JUST ENSURE THAT ANY ADDITIONAL WORK YOU WANT DONE SHOULD BE ADDED IN THE NEW RESOLUTION AS WELL, IF YOU CAN MODIFY THAT PORTION OF IT IF NECESSARY.
OKAY, SO MR. MAYOR, YOU HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE NO, I, AGAIN, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S, IT'S IN THE TOWN, UM, WHERE I THINK THE YEARLY MAINTENANCE WOULD BENEFIT THE TOWN BUSINESSES.
YOU KNOW, I RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, YOU DO LIKE THE COMMISSIONER'S BEEN DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST KEEPING UP WITH THE, THE FLOODING DEBRIS, KEEPING UP WITH THE CATCH BASINS, CLEANING THEM, YOU KNOW, LIKE USING THE FUNDS FOR THE I WOULD IF IT WAS MINE.
I THINK THAT WOULD DEFINITELY BENEFIT THE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE BECAUSE THAT'S, AGAIN, IT WAS THEIR MONEY THAT WAS PUT INTO IT.
AND THAT DOES HELP, YOU KNOW, AS ANYBODY KNOWS, IT KEEPS CATCH BASINS CLEAR.
IT DOES HELP, EVEN THOUGH WHEN THE, THE WATER, THE RIVER COMES UP, THE WATER AND THE STREET CAN'T GO OUT ANYMORE, BUT AT LEAST UNTIL THAT POINT IT WILL HELP.
UM, SO SHOULD WE, AND ANY KIND OF DEBRIS IN THE RIVER THAT WE CAN JOINTLY WORK, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO IT AGAIN WITH YOU.
PARTNER WITH THE TOWN AGAIN TO, UH, GET IN THE RIVER AND CLEAN IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
WE, WE DID THE BIG PIECES, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF WE HAD TIME TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE, IT WOULD DEFINITELY HELP MORE, BUT SHOULD WE HAVE LIKE A, A JOINT, BUT SINCE PART OF THE TIF DISTRICT, IT WAS FUNDED BY RESIDENTS OF THE VILLAGE AND MOST OF IT'S UNINCORPORATED WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE.
UM, SO EITHER, SO NOBODY GETS SLIGHTED OR GETS ANNOYED WITH EACH OTHER, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, MAYBE FOR THE COMMISSIONER DURING SAY THE BUDGET SEASON, THE CAPITAL BUDGET SEASON TO PROPOSE LIKE AN ANNUAL SAY TIFF, YOU KNOW, TIF FUNDING AND SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA BE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, $300,000 THIS YEAR FOR, UH, TIFF MAINTENANCE AND THEN WE COULD SEND IT TO, UH, THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD.
UM, AND YOU COULD SAY, OH, THIS IS A GOOD IDEA, OR IT'S A GOOD IDEA, AND THEN WE WILL, WE'LL MOVE COOPERATIVELY ON, ON THE SPENDING OF THE DOLLARS.
I THINK, I THINK THE COMMISSIONER COULD DEFINITELY PUT TOGETHER A SMALL BUDGET OF THAT AREA AND WHAT NEEDS TO BE, BE DONE DONE EVERY YEAR.
AND SAY, COME TO THE BOARD AND SAY, I NEED, RIGHT.
THEN YOU COULD BASICALLY SAY, AND IT MIGHT BE A BIGGER PROJECT THAT HE NEEDS OR WHATEVER, AND THEN HE COULD COME TO YOU AND SAY, I WANT TO USE THAT KIND OF MONEY.
AND I THINK THAT IT MAKES SENSE TO, UM, ADVOCATE, WE CAN JOINTLY ADVOCATE WITH OUR STATE OFFICIALS TO GET RECOGNITION OF THE ALTERNATIVE WAYS OF PAYING FOR THE FLOODING SO THAT WE CAN PERHAPS RESURRECT THE, UM, THE, THE ENGINEERING STUDY FROM WE WOULD HAVE TO, I'M SORRY.
THE VILLAGES IS HAPPY THAT YOU WELCOMED ME INTO THE MEETING AND, AND ASKED ME TO PARTICIPATE.
SO WE APPRECIATE THAT RIGHT THERE.
SO, WE'LL EVEN WORKING TOGETHER, THERE'S NO SEPARATE AND THE NINE BYPASS, TO BE CLEAR, IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
LIKE, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S OPPOSED TO IT, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD COORDINATE WITH THE MAYOR AND OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES TO GET STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING FOR THIS.
THAT IT HAS A LOT OF MERIT AND GOOD VALUE.
THE, THE, THE QUESTION AND THE, THE THING THAT I ALWAYS KIND OF GO BACK TO IS, IS THE RAINY, THE, THE WAY THE TOWN IS FUNDING IT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WORK.
NO, NO ONE, THE PEOPLE I TALK TO WHO DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW,
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WHY NO ONE'S OPPOSED TO THE NINE A BYPASS.YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ABOUT BLOCKING THE NINE A BYPASS FROM HAPPENING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT'S ABOUT THIS $295,000 THAT GOES ESSENTIALLY NOWHERE EVERY YEAR AND NEEDS TO BE USED NOW.
SO, UH, JOE, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO, SINCE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO COULD WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR WEDNESDAY? NEXT WEDNESDAY? I THINK THAT'S, DO WE HAVE TO WRITE IT FIRST? NO, WE NEED TO, WE, WE NEED TO FIRST PUT INTO EFFECT WHAT CHANGES YOU WANT DOCUMENT.
LET DO THE WORK FIRST AND THEN WE'LL PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
I I, I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED A RUSH BRUSH HERE, BUT YEAH, BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO, LET'S DO THE WORK FIRST.
IT NEEDS TO BE SET ON PAPER BEFORE YOU HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO DO A, UM, LIKE A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PROJECT GOING OUT? OR YOU JUST WANT TO DO IT, LOOK AT IT YEARLY BASED ON HIS NEEDS? WHATEVER.
NO, I THINK WE NEED TO JUST SIT DOWN AND FIGURE THAT ALL OUT.
WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT NOW, AND THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR NEXT STEPS GOING TO BE.
THIS WE, ERIC'S ADVOCATING, UM, THE MAYOR'S ADVOCATING AND WE'RE ALL JOINTLY WORKING TOGETHER.
COMMISSIONER'S HERE LET USS DO OUR WORK AND THEN WE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
BUT, BUT ANTICIPATED TIME TABLE.
WOULD YOU RECOMMEND? NO, I'M JUST ASKING.
BUT ERIC, I MEAN, UM, SORRY, NOT ERIC.
PAUL, I PROMISE YOU WE NEED TO DO THE WORK FIRST.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANT HIM TO GIVE A TIME AND THEN WE, HE CAN'T MEET THAT TIME
SO LET US DO THE WORK AND WHILE I GO THROUGH THE LAW, IT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR SEVEN YEARS.
WE DON'T NEED TO DISMANTLE IT IN SEVEN DAYS.
BUT I'LL ALSO SEND THE FOLLOW UP EMAIL AFTER THIS MEETING TO GET THE BALL ROLLING.
WHAT, WHAT ELSE WE NEED, WHAT OTHER DATA WE NEED TO COLLECT TO GET THE CHANGES ON PAPER BEFORE WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY INFLUENCE WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, IT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
THE ARMY CORPS WAS ON OUR SIDE.
YES, I KNOW, BUT IT'S A STATE.
ALL WE'RE DOING IS TAKING THE BIG MCDONALD'S, NOT DREDGING IT.
JODY MCDONALD? NO, JOAN MCDONALD IS NO LONGER.
OH, FROM, YOU MEAN FROM THE FED? FROM THE ARMY CORPS.
I DON'T, BUT NO DUST OFF THOSE RECORDS IN THE COUNTY.
BUT WE, WE NEED YOU TO DUST OFF YOUR RECORDS.
BUT I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE, THE, THE RECORDS OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD, THEY WERE IN THE PLANNING CONFERENCE ROOM.
UM, AND THEY WERE CHAIRED BY THE COMMISSIONER AT THE TIME.
AND FORGIVE ME, I FORGET HIS NAME.
BUT BETWEEN US, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS STUDY TO TALKED ABOUT.
JUST WELL, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING YOU.
'CAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT OKAY.
THAT'S THE WHOLE WE HAVE TO DO.
FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FUNDING REQUEST.
OKAY, SO FEDERAL, UH, THANK YOU.
UH, REQUEST GAR IS ON THE LINE.
I THOUGHT RICH, YOU MIGHT, WELL JUST STAY.
YOU'LL BE OUT BY 11 O'CLOCK WITH YOU, PROMISE YOU.
UH, SO BASICALLY, UM, ELLEN, UM, AT THE LAST MEETING MENTIONED THAT, UH, SENATOR GILLIBRAND'S OFFICE, UM, UH, HAS REACHED OUT AND THERE'S A POTENTIAL FEDERAL FUNDING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
UM, I SPOKE TO, UM, UH, SENATOR GILLIBRAND'S, UM, REGIONAL TO STEVE COLIUS.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE, AND ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, UM, THAT I SUGGESTED WAS, UM, RIGHT NOW WE BASICALLY MADE LIKE TREMENDOUS PROGRESS IN TERMS OF NAMES, UH, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UM, INITIATIVES ON, YOU KNOW, WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
WE GOT THE GRANT FROM ANDREA STEWART COUSINS DOPPS FERRY ROAD.
WE GOT A MILLION DOLLARS FROM, UH, CONGRESSMAN.
UH, YOU KNOW, BOWMAN, UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE LITTLE STRETCH, UM, FROM THE ACME SUPERMARKET AREA TO THE GREENBURG HEALTH CENTER THAT DOESN'T HAVE A SIDEWALK.
SO IF WE HAD A SIDEWALK FOR THAT LITTLE STRETCH, THAT WOULD MEAN PEOPLE WOULD BE ABLE TO WALK FROM, UH, THE HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION TO THE GREENBURG HEALTH CENTER, UH, YOU KNOW, DOPPS FERRY ROAD, BASICALLY TO THE TOWN HALL, TO SOUTH ROAD.
IT WOULD BE THE, AN AMAZING CORRIDOR, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPROVEMENT.
AND I WAS BIKING OVER THE YEAH.
IT'S NOT A REALLY BIG, UH, YOU KNOW, STRETCH THAT, BUT WITH THE HEALTH CENTER AND THE LIBRARY, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO CARS, UH, CAN'T, CAN'T GET THERE.
SO I THOUGHT THAT WOULD BE A, A GREAT, UH, GRANT.
HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA.
BUT IN TERM, WE HAVE TO GET THAT PROPOSAL IN.
THERE ARE VERY, THE, THE REQUEST
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OR THE, THE CRITERIA HAS TO BE LAID OUT VERY CAREFULLY.THERE HAS SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF REAL PLAN AND SOME SORT OF REAL DOLLARS.
YOU'VE GOT A LOT TO ASSOCIATE WITH THAT.
YOU'RE COMPETING WITH HUNDREDS OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES FOR THESE DOLLARS.
CAN WE DO THAT WITHIN THIS SHORT TIMEFRAME? I, I WOULD QUESTION THAT WE'RE SHORT STAFFED.
AS WE, AS WE STAND, WE'RE DOWN TWO ENGINEERS.
CAN YOU, OH, IS IT ON? WE'RE SHORT STAFFED AS IT IS.
WE'RE DOWN TWO ENGINEERS RIGHT NOW.
COULD WE, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE GARRETT, YOU KNOW, HAS INDICATED THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON THIS, UH, WE HAVE A ENGINEERING CONSULTANT AND COULD WE USE THE ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO, UM, BECAUSE I MEAN, THIS COULD BE BIG DOLLARS IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, GRANTS.
AND IT'S REALLY, TO ME, YOU KNOW, CRAZY NOT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF FEDERAL DOLLARS WHEN, WHEN IT COULD BE MM-HMM.
SO I, I WOULD HAVE NO PROBLEM USING OUR CONSULTANTS TO HELP US PREPARE FOR THE NO.
I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WHAT WE OUTLINE FOR THE CONSULTANT TO DO THAT WE ARE MEETING THAT OUTLINE.
BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MAJOR PROJECTS THAT COME UNDER THAT CONSULTANT.
I JUST NEED TO, WE HAVE SOME BIG PROJECTS.
SOME BIG PROJECTS BECAUSE, SO UNLESS WE'RE FUNDING, ARE WE GIVING MORE MONEY TOWARDS THAT? LET ME CONSULTANT.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE, AND I HAVE A, I HAVE A SEGUE IN THAT IN A FEW MINUTES, BUT I JUST WANNA, 'CAUSE WE'RE PUTTING A LOT ON THIS CONSULTANT, SO WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT OUR BUDGET IS AND WHAT WE MM-HMM.
WHAT IS THIS? JUST QUICK QUESTION.
DO WE KNOW, I, I HEARD THERE WAS A TIGHT TIMEFRAME.
I, I, I'VE DOWNLOADED THE, UH, CONGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED SPENDING PACKET AND I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO WADE THROUGH IT CLOSELY.
UH, DO YOU HAVE AN ACTUAL DATE OR? YEAH, I THINK LIKE IN A WEEK FROM NOW.
BUT THAT WAS FOR, THAT WAS FOR, UM, SENATOR GILLIBRAND'S OFFICE.
AND I ALSO SUGGESTED THAT WE LOOK AT THE CONGRESSIONALLY, A CONGRESSIONALLY FUNDED PACKET FROM, UH, CONGRESSMAN BOWMAN'S OFFICE.
HE MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT DEADLINE.
AND THERE MIGHT BE CRITERIA THERE THAT WILL JIVE WITH THE SENATORS.
SO LET'S TAKE A, IF YOU WOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THAT, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LINK TO THAT PAGE AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, SO I, SO I HAVE A CALL SET UP FOR TOMORROW WITH ONE OF, UM, UH, MR. BOWMAN'S REPRESENTATIVES.
SO I, I WILL, UM, BE INQUIRING ABOUT THAT POTENTIAL FUNDING, AND I WILL DIG IN AND TRY AND GET A, A TARGET DATE ON THE, UH, CONGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED SPENDING, UH, SPENDING DOLLARS THROUGH, UM, SENATOR GIRAN.
AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN.
SOMETIMES THEY JUST NEED A LETTER OF INTENT ON, ON SOME OF THESE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT WE, BUT LIKE YOU SAY, UM, THE MORE INFORMATION YOU HAVE, THE BETTER.
BUT, SO WE WILL DIG IN, WE'LL FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT'S NEEDED.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, HISTORY WITH THESE TYPES OF GRANTS.
SO I THINK WE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL DO THE BEST WE CAN.
AND YOU, MANY TIMES IN THE PAST, LIKE WHEN WE REACHED OUT TO SENATOR, UH, COUSINS, HE SAID, WE WENT TO THE WEST HARLEY AVENUE SIDEWALK, BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING DESIGNED.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THE, THE DESIGN.
WE BASICALLY GAVE THEM LIKE A ROUGH ESTIMATE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEY BA AND YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU, WE'VE HAD SO MUCH EXPERIENCE WITH SIDEWALKS THAT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY GIVE THEM LIKE A BALLPARK FIGURE AND, AND, AND GET, YOU KNOW, AND GET IT DONE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I I SORT OF THINK THAT IT WOULD JUST BE LIKE SUCH AN ENORMOUS, UM, QUALITY.
YEAH, YOU JUST WANT, BECAUSE YOU'RE, WE ARE IN COMPETITION FOR THE DOLLARS WE WANNA MAKE AS BEST A PROFESSIONAL PRESENTATION AS POSSIBLE SO THAT WE ARE BRINGING THE, THE, UM, THE COMMITTEE'S ATTENTION TO THEM.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT CONTROLLED BY THE, THE SENATORS OR THE CONGRESSMEN ALONE GOES TO THE COMMITTEES THAT ARE RELEVANT WITHIN THE, WITHIN THE, UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, EACH OF EITHER THE SENATE OR THE OR OR THE CONGRESS TO REVIEW AND THEN TO PASS ON AND SO FORTH.
I'M SEEING AN APRIL 10TH DEADLINE FOR, UM, THE CONGRESSIONALLY DIRECTED SPENDING.
UM, SO I, I THINK I FEEL CONFIDENT WE COULD PUT TOGETHER, PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING FOR THAT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE DO, SO WE'LL PRESENT THAT TO THE TOWN BOARD SO WE HAVE YOUR SUPPORT.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER, YOU, YOU HAVE SOME OTHER, UH, FEDERAL GRANT IDEAS THAT YOU THOUGHT MADE SOME, SOME SENSE THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING UP? YOU TALKING TO ME, TO GARRETT? NO, GARRETT.
UH, JUST QUICKLY,
UH, SO NOT FEDERAL, BUT THROUGH THE COUNTY.
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UM, THAT'S $250,000 POTENTIAL ALLOCATIONS.SO, UH, I WILL PRESENT THAT TO THE TOWN BOARD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS WITH AN INTENT TO, UH, SUBMIT AN APPLICATION THERE FOR, UH, FOUR CORNERS SPENDING AND USING THAT MONEY, UM, TO CREATE, UH, OVERLAY ZONE TO ENABLE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AT FOUR CORNERS.
SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THAT POSSIBILITY.
UM, THERE'S EMPIRE STATE DEVELOPMENT CAPITAL GRANT FUNDING.
UH, I WILL BE PRESENTING TO THE TOWN BOARD, UH, PACKAGE WHERE THE TOWN WOULD SEEK ROUGHLY $1 MILLION FOR DESIGN FUNDING FOR ROUTE ONE 19, UH, BIKE PATH FROM, UH, THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN, ROUTE NINE TO THE NORTH SOUTH COUNTY TRAILWAY.
SO THAT'S ONE THING I THINK THAT WE HAVE INTEREST IN, AND WE'LL PRESENT THAT TO YOU.
UM, THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE, THE GRANTS THAT I'M TRACKING RIGHT NOW.
ONLY DON'T YOU JUST STAY, 'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO REFER, BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE HERE TO THE SCHEDULE WE'RE DOING, WE'RE RIGHT ON POINT.
UM, SO WE HAVE THE MAINTENANCE OF SIDEWALKS.
DID WE JUST TALK THE MAINTENANCE OF SIDEWALK YOU PUT ON HERE? YEAH, DO THAT.
WE HAVE TO DO, OH, I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT YOU SAYING.
SO, SO BASICALLY, UH, DURING THE PAST, UM, 70 OR 80 YEARS, THE TOWN HAS MAINTAINED SIDEWALKS.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE'VE DONE IT EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
AND IN RE RESIDENTIAL AREAS, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE FIXED, UH, SIDEWALK ON LAST YEAR WE FIXED IT ON LONGVIEW.
UM, TWO YEARS AGO, OR THREE YEARS AGO, WE DID A SIDEWALK ON, UH, MOUNT, YOU KNOW, MOUNT JOY, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WAS IN BEAR SHAPE.
ALSO AN ORLEY ROAD NEAR THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER.
YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME THERE'S BEEN CRACKS, WE'VE ALWAYS FIXED IT.
UM, SO MY, MY, YOU KNOW, MY FEELING IS THAT THE TOWN SHOULD CONTINUE IT FOR RESIDENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES NOT FOR COMMERCIAL, YOU KNOW, PROPERTIES.
AND I SPOKE TO RICH AND HE SAID HE JUST NEEDS, UM, YOU KNOW, TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZATION TO CHANGE, UH, YOU KNOW, TO CHANGE THE CODE.
AND AGAIN, WHILE I'M, AND MONEY AND STAFF, RIGHT? WELL, YEAH.
SO RICH, WHY DON'T YOU TELL, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE THAT CONVERSATION? SHE JUST GOTTA FINISH SAYING HOW OVER, WE'RE DEFINITELY STRETCHED OUT.
SO WE'VE BEEN ADVISED, UH, BY LEGAL THAT THE PRACTICE OF GOING IN AND REPAIRING SIDEWALKS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS.
THIS IS THE REPAIR SIDEWALKS, THE WAY OUR CODE IS WRITTEN, WE ARE PROHIBITED FROM DOING THAT.
I THINK THEY CALL IT A GIFT OF, WE'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR A DECADE.
WE HAVE, THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN BREAKING OUR OWN LAWS.
SO FOR 200 YEARS IN SOME AREAS.
THAT'S THE OTHER THING WHERE, SORRY, ARE WE DOING THIS NOW? WE HAVE TO, UH, I KNOW THE SUPERVISORS EARMARK $500,000, I THINK, IN THE CAPITAL PLAN TO TARGET THE REPAIR OF SIDEWALKS IN AREA WHERE THEY'VE DEEMED HAZARDOUS.
UM, THE CODE AS IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN DOES NOT PROHIBIT THAT.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING CLOSELY WITH LEGAL, I KNOW THEY'VE GOT VERY, UH, I THINK JOE WAS GONNA PREVENT PRESENT A FEW DIFFERENT CODES FOR THE BOARD TO LOOK AT.
I KNOW HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE LOOKED AT, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
MY, MY CONCERN, AND I JUST WANT THE BOARD TO BE AWARE, IS THAT CURRENTLY THE LIABILITY IS ON THE ADJACENT LANDOWNER HOMEOWNER, UM, TO CLEAR ANY OBSTRUCTION OR ANY ISSUE WITH THE SIDEWALK.
SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO CREATIVELY DRAFT SOME SORT OF CODE THAT, UH, MAYBE ALLOWS US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO IN AND MAKE CHANGES, HOWEVER, NOT TO SHIFT LIABILITY, UM, ONTO THE TOWN.
AND I THINK I PRESENTED THIS TO YOU SUPERVISOR, UM, BEFORE, BUT ALSO TO MAYBE CHARGE THE HOMEOWNER.
UM, FOR THOSE I'M AGAINST TRI, LIKE, I'M JUST LOOKING AT OTHER CODES AND WHAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE DONE BEFORE.
SO I COULD PROVIDE SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE ISSUE THAT THAT I HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO THERE WERE NINE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UH, ACCIDENTS.
UH, AND WE HAD A COUPLE FATALITIES ALL WITHIN WEEKS OF EACH OTHER.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS I THINK NINE, NINE ACCIDENTS WITHIN LIKE TWO, THREE MONTHS.
IT WAS LIKE ONE AFTER ANOTHER IN THE ROADWAY.
AND, AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, MY FAILING IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN TO ME, UM, WE'VE BEEN ENCOURAGING, UH, MORE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY BY BUILDING SIDEWALKS, WHICH I THINK IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
I FEEL THAT OUR EFFORTS, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN BUILDING MILES OF SIDEWALKS IN RECENT YEARS, WILL RESULT IN SAVINGS OF LIVES.
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FEW YEARS YOU SEE SOMEBODY DYING BECAUSE, UH, THEY WERE WALKING, UH, YOU KNOW, ON A ROAD RATHER THAN ON A SIDEWALK AND A CAR HIT THEM, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME YOU COULD JUST SO WE MIX.NO, I'M JUST, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
I, I THINK WE'RE MIXING ORANGE AND OUT BECAUSE I, I'M MIXING ORANGE.
'CAUSE BECAUSE WHAT'S, BECAUSE THIS IS A JUST NO, WE'RE TALKING PAUL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SIDEWALK REPAIR.
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT MAKING NEW SIDEWALKS.
'CAUSE THAT'S, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HEAR YOU TALKING.
NO, THE, THE REASON LET ME SAY IT IS BECAUSE MY FEELING IS THAT IF PEOPLE, IF WHEN WE'RE GOING TO A NEIGHBORHOOD, PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR THE REPAIRS, UH, IN FRONT OF, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, ON HILLSIDE AVENUE, WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING BRAND NEW SIDEWALK, RIGHT? THAT'S GOING TO POTENTIALLY SAY AVOID ACCIDENTS, AVOID FATALITIES, GONNA MAKE IT EASIER, SAFER FOR PEOPLE TO, TO WALK.
IF RESIDENTS WILL SAY, IF WE SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, WE'RE BUILDING A NEW SIDEWALK, GREAT NEWS.
NOW YOU'RE LIABLE BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA, WE'RE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, UH, UH, PAY FOR, UH, A REPAIR OF A CRACK.
NOBODY IS GONNA WANT A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE BASICALLY NOBODY WANTS THAT ADDITIONAL EXPENSE.
SO I FEEL THAT PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, THEY BASICALLY ARE DOING TO ME, UH, PUBLIC SERVICE, UH, BY SAYING TO THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY, I, YOU KNOW, I MAY NOT LIKE A SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, BUT I'M, I, YOU KNOW, I COULD LIVE WITH IT BECAUSE FOR THE GREATER GOOD, MAYBE A LIFE WILL BE SAVED IF WE, IF, IF, IF WE CHANGE THE LAW TO MAKE THEM LIABLE, THEY'RE GONNA FIGHT IT AND WE'RE GONNA GET FEWER NEW SIDEWALKS BUILT AROUND THE TOWN.
AREN'T THEY, AREN'T THEY LIABLE AS LAW STANDS? NO.
YEAH, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTENANCE.
LET, LET ME, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE TO MAKE A FAIR EQUATION.
AND, BUT EVERYONE HAS TO UNDERSTAND TOO THAT WHILE EACH INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNER IS, IF THEY'RE MAINTAINING THEIR SIDEWALKS AND PUTTING THE, AND FIXING THE CRACKS, UM, THERE'S AN OUTLAY OF MONEY.
BUT IF THEY DON'T, AND THE TOWN DOES IT, THERE'S AN OUTLAY OF MONEY PER IN OUR TAXES.
SO IT'S GONNA COME OUTTA POCKETS ANYWAY.
IT'S JUST MORE DISCREET WHEN IT'S LUMPED IN WITH OUR WHOLE TAX PACKAGE.
UM, BECAUSE WHAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT IS WHAT IT COSTS, WHAT IT COSTS IN TERMS OF PERSONNEL FOR THE D P W TO, TO, UM, REPAIR THE SIDEWALKS.
WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IT COSTS TO ASSUME THE LIABILITY.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME SENSE OF, OF THAT BEFORE I'M GONNA APPROVE IT.
I MEAN, IT, IT IS A GOOD AND FEEL GOOD AND, AND, AND CERTAINLY SAFETY FACTOR.
AND IT IS A RESPONSIBILITY OF HOMEOWNERS.
IT'S THEIR, THE, YOU KNOW, THEIR OWN CHILDREN AND, AND ELDER PARENTS HAVE TO WALK ON THOSE SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE TOO.
SO IT BEHOOVES THEM TO DO THAT.
THERE'S, THEY WOULD WALK IN THE STREETS IF THERE WAS NO SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THEIR OWN HOMES.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE TO WEIGH ALL THE POSSIBILITIES.
AND, YOU KNOW, NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT A, A GOOD THING TO DO, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL THE ASPECTS OF IT BEFORE WE MAKE ANY DECISION.
I'M, LEMME JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING.
LIKE SATURDAY OR SUNDAY WAS DRIVING, UH, ON ARDSLEY ROAD, AND WHILE I WAS DRIVING, IT MUST'VE BEEN ONE OR TWO O'CLOCK, I SAW, UM, UH, SOME TOWN EMPLOYEES, THEY WERE SALTING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALK ON ARDSLEY ROAD, UH, WHICH WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS.
AND I WAS LIKE REALLY, REALLY THRILLED BECAUSE I SAID, THIS IS REALLY GOVERNMENT AT ITS BEST.
BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WASN'T LIKE A BIG, IT WASN'T A SNOW LIKE THIS, IT WAS JUST A LITTLE, UH, SLIPPERY.
AND I SAW THAT THE CREWS WERE OUT THERE AND THEY WERE BASICALLY, UM, WORKING ON A WEEKEND AND THEY WERE PUTTING, UM, THE SAFETY OF, UM, OF GREENBERG RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, FIRST.
SO TO HELP THEM AVOID, UM, SLIPPING AND, AND FALLING A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO WHEN THIS FIRST CAME UP, UM, I REMEMBER, UM, YOU KNOW, DRIVING ON ARDSLEY ROAD, GOING TO THE SCARSDALE TRAIN STATION, AND IT'S SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY, VERY NARROW.
IT'S VERY, LIKE, IT'S SLIPPERY AND IT'S STEEP.
UM, AND I SAW PEOPLE, BASICALLY, THE TOWN BASICALLY SAID, OH, THE RESIDENTS HAVE TO ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY OF CLEARING THE SNOW FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, WHICH MOST PEOPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T DO.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE BASICALLY, UM, UH, WALKING, UM, YOU KNOW, ON THE ROAD.
AND I, I REMEMBER I SAW CARS ALMOST SKIDDING, UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS REALLY SLIPPERY THE ROAD CONDITIONS.
SO I ASKED THE TOWN BOARD AND THE BOARD BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVED, UM, UH, A, A DECISION.
I THINK IT WAS A RESOLUTION OR A
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DECISION, WHATEVER, SAYING, OKAY, THE TOWN'S GONNA ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY OF, UM, SALTING, YOU KNOW, UH, THE SIDEWALK.NOW EVERYBODY WALKS ON THE SIDEWALK, NOBODY'S WALKING ON THE ROAD TO ME, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SPEAKING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS LIKE SOMETHING THAT I JUST REALLY FEEL PASSIONATE ABOUT.
I FEEL THAT IF WE CHANGE THE RULES, NOT EVERYBODY IN, UH, COMPLIES, NOT EVERY, IF SOMEBODY'S ON VACATION, SOMETIMES THEY, THEY FORGET ABOUT SALTING THE ROAD.
THEY COULD GET A VIOLATION, THEY COULD GET A SUMMONS, BUT IN THE MEANTIME, A CAR COULD HIT A PEDESTRIAN WALKING ON A ROAD AND SOMEBODY COULD DIE.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION? PLEASE? I DON'T WANNA REALLY HAVE TO, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? I, I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT CAN CONFUSED.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT REPAIRING SIDEWALKS OR ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SHOVELING AND SALTING SIDEWALKS? I THINK IT'S BOTH.
SO WE HAVE TO, IT'S IT'S TWO SEPARATE AREAS.
THEY'RE BOTH, THEY'RE BOTH IN THE CODE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE TWO, THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE ARTICLES RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER WITH THAT.
BUT, BUT THE, THE SUPERVISOR WANTS TO ASSUME THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR BOTH.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'VE DEFINITELY MADE YOUR POINT.
I, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS ARE FOR THE TOWN.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE DETERMINED.
AND THAT, AND THAT NEEDS TO BE DETERMINED.
AND WHAT BOTHERS ME TREMENDOUSLY IS THAT WE HAVE A DISCRIMINATORY PRACTICE.
SOME PROPERTY OWNERS, THE TOWN WILL COME AND, AND, UH, SHOVEL THE SIDEWALK.
AND SALT, LIKE PAUL JUST MENTIONED, AND OTHERS WHERE IT WAS PUT IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES, MAINLY ON MAIN ROADS.
THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR IT, BUT THE TOWN DECIDED IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO PUT A SIDEWALK.
NOW THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR SHOVELING IT AND PLOWING IT.
WELL, SOMEBODY WHO HAS MORE CONNECTIONS, UM, IS HAVING THE TOWN DO IT.
AND SO MY POSITION IS WE SHOULD EITHER DO IT PARTICULARLY ON MAIN ROADS WHERE PEOPLE DIDN'T ASK FOR IT.
BUT IT'S THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, A GOOD PURPOSE.
UM, I, I, I DON'T THINK WE CAN HAVE A POLICY THAT APPLIES TO SOME AND NOT TO OTHERS.
AND THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE MANPOWER ISSUE.
IF, IF I'M, IF I'M ACCURATE, IF I'M THINKING CORRECTLY, UH, YES.
BUT SCARSDALE DOES IT, RIGHT? SCARSDALE.
SCARSDALE, THE VILLAGES DO IT.
I THINK THEY DO MOST OF THE SIDEWALKS, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MAINTENANCE END OF IT WITH SNOW, RIGHT? THE TOWN DOES ANY SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF THEIR PROPERTIES.
UH, ARDSLEY ROAD, WHICH IS A COUNTY ROAD, UM, THEY DO THE, THE ROUTES TO THE TRAIN STATION, UH, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
THERE'S ONE OR TWO SIDEWALKS THAT JUST ADDED.
THEY DO, BY THE WAY, IT'S THE PARKS DEPARTMENT THAT PARKS, UM, AND THEY'VE GOT SOME EQUIPMENT, BUT TO DO ALL THE SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT TOWN, IF THAT WAS THE TOWN BOARD'S DECISION, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MAIN ROADS, UH, MAIN ROADS FOR THE MOST PART.
SOME OF THEM ARE HIT, NOT ALL OF THEM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I, MY FEELING IS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T SAY THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE WRONG.
I FEEL THAT I WAS AGREEING WITH YOU.
NO, BUT WELL, I, I FEEL IS THAT IF WE COULD COME UP WITH A POLICY AND SAY, YOU KNOW, THE MAIN ROADS, UM, FIRST OF ALL, I FEEL THAT ALL SIDEWALKS WE SHOULD BE FIXING.
UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CRACKS OR WHATEVER, I THINK THE TOWN SHOULD ASSUME THAT RESPONSE, CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE.
AND, UM, AND, AND DO THE REPAIRS.
I FEEL THAT WITH THE, UH, SNOW SHOVELING, UM, WE SHOULD BASICALLY, ON SIDEWALKS LEADING TO TRAIN STATIONS OR MAJOR BUS STOPS, I FEEL WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S A VERY STEEP HILL, UH, YOU KNOW, AND IT COULD BE A DANGER, I FEEL, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT COULD WORK.
I ALSO THINK THAT THE TOWN COULD, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER CREATING LIKE A SIDEWALK DISTRICT, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
AND WE COULD SAY, LISTEN FOR YOU, IT COULD BE PART OF A BUDGET AND WE COULD SAY ALL THE SIDEWALKS IN THE TOWN, THE REPAIRS ARE GONNA BE PAID FOR BY EVERYBODY IN THE SIDEWALK DISTRICT.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU REALLY LOOK AT IT, WHEN WE BUILD THE SIDEWALKS ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, HILLSIDE AVENUE, OR RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING, UH, NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE BENEFITING FROM IT IS EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA.
NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE SIDEWALK.
SO IF WE WANT TO CHANGE THE LAW AND SAY PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS A PRIORITY, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO CREATE A SIDEWALK DISTRICT FOR THE WHOLE TOWN, OR WE WANT TO DO IT DISTRICT BY DISTRICT.
SO WHY DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE ESTABLISH THE CRITERIA OR SEVERAL ALTERNATIVES.
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AND THEN WHAT, UM, THEN, THEN THE, THE ATTORNEY CAN LOOK AT HOW HE WOULD MODIFY THE LAWS FOR US TO LOOK AT, AND THE COMMISSIONER CAN DETERMINE WHAT THE ANNUAL COSTS WOULD BE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A, A REALISTIC IDEA TOO.AND I JUST ON OUR END FOR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, I WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR THAT WE WANT TO BE CONSISTENT AND FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
AND AGAIN, AFTER CONSULTING WITH OUR LEGAL TEAM, THE CODE DOES NOT PERMIT US TO DO THAT.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO MM-HMM.
AND I THINK AFTER THIS DISCUSSION, I HAVE GREATER RESOURCES NOW TO KNOW KIND OF WHERE, WHAT YOU WANT AND HOW YOU WANT IT SITUATED.
SO I THINK WE COULD PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER AND THEN RICH, I'LL GET IT RIGHT OVER TO YOU AFTER THE BOARD APPROVES, UM, AT LEAST IN THEORY, NOT AN OFFICIAL APPROVAL.
SO THAT START PUTTING WEDNESDAY, YOU NEED, YOU NEED A FEW MORE JOES.
IT ALSO RAISES AN INTERESTING POINT BECAUSE WE HAVE A CODE, AND I BELIEVE BY RESOLUTION WE HAVE AGREED TO HAVE THE TOWN PLOW AND SALT SIDEWALKS.
I DON'T THINK A RESOLUTION TRUMPS OUR CODE, WHICH WE'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT ENDING THE CODE.
I'M SAYING DRAFT A CHANGE TO OUR CODE.
BUT I'M WONDERING RIGHT NOW WHETHER OR NOT WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING AND DO PLOWING, UH, SHOVELING AND SALTING SOME SIDEWALKS.
I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALL DONE BY RESOLUTION, WHICH MAY NOT MAKE IT LEGITIMATE BECAUSE IT, A RESOLUTION DOESN'T TRUMP A LOCAL LAW.
SO WE RE WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT.
ANYWAY, EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT TO DO.
HAVE, SO DO, DO YOU WANNA DO YOUR SEGUE WHILE YOU'RE CONSIDERING? NO, I'LL, I'LL DO THAT AT THE END.
THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE DISTRICT.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T CHANGE THE CODE WITHOUT HAVING A WAY TO PAY FOR THE CHANGES.
AND THE DISTRICT AT LEAST IS A WAY TO PAY FOR THE CHANGES.
'CAUSE THE PAYMENT ALSO COSTS STAFFING.
WE GOTTA LOOK AT THAT BIG THING.
MR. MR. MOTO, DON'T YOU COME ON TO THE TABLE, PLEASE? I, NO, HE'S, AND JUST MAKE SURE YOU WANT HIM, BECAUSE HE SAID THE I BRING, THAT'S WHAT I DON'T WORRY.
I DON'T, I'M JUST BRINGING EVERYBODY UP.
AND JUST MAKE SURE YOU TURN YOUR MIC ON FOR ME.
IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE PROPO, THE BUDGET THAT, YOU KNOW, WE APPROVED AND THE ESTIMATED REVENUES.
UH, USUALLY, I KNOW IT'S ONLY THEN TO FEBRUARY, BUT ARE, DO YOU FEEL THAT WE'RE PRETTY MUCH ON TRACK WHAT WE HAD PUT IN THE BUDGET? YEP.
OR ARE WE DOING BETTER OR WORSE OR WE'RE ON TRACK.
OKAY, FRANK, WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU LEAD THE DISCUSSION.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, BEFORE, BEFORE YOU DO, UM, BRIAN OR BISHOP OR EMMA, DO YOU KNOW WHO 2 9 9 4 IS THE LAST FOUR DIGITS OF PHONE NUMBER? I'D RATHER NOT DISPLAY IT.
IF WE KNOW WHO IT IS, WE CAN JUST CHANGE THE NAME.
I THINK THAT'S THE WHITE HOUSE.
OH, THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, MR. ABRAHAM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
SHOULD WE HAVE EVERYONE INTRODUCE THEMSELVES AS THEY SPEAK? I GUESS? ALL RIGHT, WE'LL BRING THEM IN.
OH, HE'S ON THE PHONE, THAT'S WHY.
I CAN BRING HIM IN, BUT I CAN'T THIS DISPLAY A PICTURE IF HE'S ON THE PHONE.
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HERE WE GO.YEAH, WE HAD, UH, ETTE, BUT HE DECLINED TO BE PROMOTED.
I WAS NOT ABLE TO GET ONTO ZOOM.
THAT'S WHY I HAD TO LIKE A DIAL IN.
WE JUST DIDN'T WANNA DISPLAY A CELL PHONE NUMBER IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO.
AND WE DON'T HAVE TO BECAUSE WE HAVE YOUR NAME THERE.
NOW YOU HAVE MY CELL PHONE NUMBER.
AND WHICH HOUSING DEVELOPMENT WOULD THAT THIS IS THE SENIOR, SENIOR HOUSING, EXCUSE ME.
HE SAW AN ISSUE WITH THE SANITARY SEWER SERVICE LINE.
THIS ISN'T GONNA BECOME A PUBLIC LINE.
IT IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, BUT DUE TO FLOWS, THE COUNTY WANTED HIM TO SIGN OFF ON IT.
THIS IN GENERAL, BREAKS ANY PROTOCOL THAT WE'VE EVER HAD BEFORE.
GENERALLY WE WILL SIGN OFF THAT OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HANDLED THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
FOR INSTANCE, WE COULD SERVE, BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM WATER OR TAKE THEIR SEWAGE OR DEAL WITH THE DRAINAGE.
IN THIS CASE, THEY WERE ASKING HIM TO BASICALLY POINT BLANK SIGN OFF ON THE PLAN.
WHEN HE STARTED TO REVIEW THE WHOLE PLAN, HE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE, AGAIN, THE SANITARY SEWER LINE AND BASICALLY, UH, THE ABILITY FOR IT TO CLEAN ITSELF.
UH, HE BROUGHT THIS UP WITH THE ENGINEER FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
THERE WAS A, A LETTER THAT WAS ADDED TO THE, UH, APPROVAL.
BASICALLY CALLING FOR A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULED REFUND IN PLACE.
ANYWAY, LAST WEEK, LONG AND SHORT, THERE WAS A MEETING WITH, OR TWO WEEKS AGO WITH THE COUNTY, UH, TOWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, UH, BUILD INSPECTOR FRANK MODO, UH, THE APPLICANT'S OR THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES ENGINEER AND MEMBER OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
UH, THESE ISSUES WERE VETTED OUT.
I THINK THEY RECEIVED WELL BY THE ENGINEER.
THEY SAID THEY WOULD GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT.
UM, AND I THINK THE PLAN HAS CHANGED A FEW TIMES FROM WHAT WE LOOKED AT TODAY.
BUT LONG AND SHORT, THE TODAY THE COUNTY HAS BASICALLY ACKNOWLEDGED WHAT OUR ENGINEER WAS SAYING, THE SECURITY THAT, UM, THE, THE PLAN NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT.
I THINK SOMEONE'S NOT FOUND THE WINDOWS.
SOMEONE'S NOT GONNA, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.
YEAH, BUT I DON'T SEE HIM BUDGING.
IT MIGHT BE, ARE WE GOOD? THE SECURITY GUARDS LOCKED OUT MAYBE
SO, UM, THEY'VE NOW WORKED ON IT AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE GONNA BE SIGNING OFF ON THE SHOP DRAWING OF THE CONNECTION FOR THE SEWER SERVICE INTO OUR MAIN ONLY.
SO THEN THE TOWN HAVE NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SEWER SERVICE FROM THE BUILDING.
WE HAVE A MAIN IN THE STREET AND YOU HAVE THE BUILDING THAT'S ALREADY CONSTRUCTED WITH THE, YOU KNOW, AN OUTLET FOR THE SEWER.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE AN OUR END FOR THE PURPOSES OF PROTECTING THE TOWN THAT WERE COVERED.
UM, BASICALLY IN THE EMAIL I SENT TO EVERYBODY TODAY.
KIND OF SPELLED OUT THOSE SAME CONCERNS.
AND I KNOW ON THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT END, UM, I'LL LET FRANK SPEAK TO THAT, BUT I THINK THERE'S A WATER PERMIT BUT NO SEWER PERMIT.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO WORK ON.
UM, AND IT IS A MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
SO I JUST NEED, WHO IS THEY? THEY IS THE ENGINEER FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE CLEAR THE POINT.
SO WHAT WE GOT FROM THE COUNTY TODAY STATING THAT THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO, NEEDS MORE INFORMATION AND THAT THEY'RE NOT SPEAKING FOR ANY OTHER ENTITY, WHICH I ASSUME WOULD BE US.
WHERE IN THAT DOES IT INDICATE THAT WE'RE ONLY SIGNING OFF ON THE CONNECTION AND NOT THE, UH, THE PITCH OF THE PIPE? OUR ENGINEER JASON OLA DRAFTED A STATEMENT THAT SAYS THAT, SO IT DOESN'T SAY IT IN THE, IN THE COUNTY'S EMAIL THAT WAS SENT.
BUT, BUT IN, IN OUR, AND I COULD SEND IT TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.
UH, WE DRAFTED SOMETHING TO ESSENTIALLY SAY THAT THE APPROVAL IS LIMITED JUST FOR THOSE PURPOSES.
UM, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT JASON DID OVER TWO WEEKS AGO, LIKE YOU SAID, POINT OUT ABOUT THIS, UM, SCOURING VELOCITY, I BELIEVE IT'S CALLED.
AND, AND NOW THE COUNTY TODAY HAS AGREED WITH HIS, UH, DETERMINATION MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE PITCH OF THE PIPE THAT'S
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IN THE PITCH, CORRECT.AND SO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ENGINEERS FOR THE PROJECT HAD RESPONDED TO THAT, UH, ISSUE.
AND I HAVEN'T HEARD WHETHER WE RECEIVED THAT RESPONSE OR WHETHER THAT RESPONSE WAS ADEQUATE TO CORRECT THE ISSUE.
I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS ADEQUATE BASED ON THE COUNTY'S EMAIL EARLIER TODAY, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THEY WANT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT AND THAT IT WASN'T ENOUGH INFORMATION AT THIS POINT THAT THEY NEED TO REVISE THEIR PLANS.
I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, FRANK HAD MENTIONED ABOUT THE PERMITS ALSO.
SO ON THE, ON THE PLUMBING CONTRACT THAT IS SUBMITTED FOR THE 52 MANHATTAN AVENUE, HE APPLIED FOR ALL THE FIXTURES INSIDE THE UNITS, UM, LEAVING OUT THE PERMIT, UH, BEING REQUIRED FOR THE SEWER AND WATER MAINS TO BE SEPARATE 'CAUSE THEY WERE NOT PART OF THE DRAWINGS.
SO WE HAVE NO REVIEW ON ANY OF THAT 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT PART OF IT.
IN JUNE, THEY APPLIED FOR THE WATER MAIN, NOT THE SEWER.
THE WATER MAIN CAME IN ON A DESIGN.
IT WAS APPROVED, HAD A PERMIT ISSUED IN JUNE.
WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THE SEWER.
THERE'S NO PERMITS ISSUED FOR THE SEWER.
AND THE HAVE THE PLAN THAT'S GONNA COME IN HAS TO MEET THE CODE NEW YORK STATE PLUMBING CODE.
AND WHAT IMPACT, WHICH MEAN THE PITCH AND WHAT IMPACT WILL THIS HAVE ON TIMING FOR THE COMPLETION OF THE WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO? WELL, AGAIN, IF ALL THE, IF EVERYBODY GETS THEIR DUCKS IN A ROW AND IT'S ALL APPROVED, I THINK IT'S VERY SIMPLE.
SO, SO I UNDERSTAND IT JUST FOR EVERYBODY ELSE TO UNDERSTAND IT.
SO IF THIS IS NOT DONE, NOT TO SAY IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DONE, WHAT, WHAT CAN BE THE END RESULT OF, IS THIS GONNA, WHAT CAN THIS CAUSE SONYA, YOU NOT HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT? SO IF THE SEWER IS INSTALLED AS PER PLAN NOW MM-HMM.
AND IS THAT WHAT WE HAVE TO CLEAN OUT IS NO HOUSING, THAT'S THE HOUSING AUTHORITY'S RESPONSIBILITY TO KEEP THAT FROM CLOCKING, YOU KNOW, WHICH THE PURPOSE OF THIS DISCUSSION.
BUT IF IT'S NOT MAINTAINED, THE LOWER UNITS OF THAT, WE'LL BE BACKED UP THE LOWER AND, AND THE, BECAUSE IT'LL REACH OUT TO TOILETS IN THE TUBS.
AND THIS IS SANITARY SUE SANITARY.
NO, WE, WE JUST HAD, UM, FOUR UNITS, 1 0 1, UH, ON THE STREET GET IMPACTED BY GREASE THAT CAME FROM THREE FIELD HIGH RISES THAT GOT INTO THE LINE, UH, LODGED UP AND THE SEWAGE ENDED UP IN FOUR UNITS IS CHARGED INTO THE HOUSE.
THERE'LL BE, YOU KNOW, CLAIMS ON THAT.
AND IS THE REASON WHY THEY CAN'T ACHIEVE THE PITCH THAT THEY NEED IS BECAUSE OF THE ELEVATION OF THE BUILDING.
IT HAS A FIXED POINT BECAUSE IT'S ALREADY BUILT.
AND THEY CAN'T ACHIEVE THE PITCH THAT THEY NEED FROM THE POINT THAT GOES INTO THE BUILDING TO THE POINT WHERE WE, WE'D CONNECT TO IT AND THAT'S WHAT THE ENGINEERS WILL LOOK AT AND THAT'S WHAT THE ENGINEERS HAVE TO, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO COME UP WITH THE RESOLVE.
SO, AND, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IF THEY CAN'T COME UP WITH A PLAN, THEY CAN USE WHAT THEY CALL A FORCED MAINE YEAH.
WHERE THE MATERIAL'S PUSHED THROUGH PUMP MM-HMM.
BUT THE COUNTY HAS TO AGREE TO IT.
SO IT'S REALLY AND MORE MAINTENANCE TOO.
IT'S NOT REALLY ON US, IT'S ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY COMING UP WITH A PLAN THAT THE COUNTY WILL AGREE TO, UM, TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE WITH THE, WITH THE PITCH OF THE PIPE.
WELL IT'S, I THINK THEY'RE ENGINEERS WORKING ON IT AND SO DO THE PROJECT ENGINEERS WANT TO, WANT TO COMMENT ON THAT.
WHERE ARE THEY? SO, SO THIS IS BRIAN.
SO IF I CAN JUST BEFORE EMMA, UM, ADDS IN.
EMMA, YOU'RE ON MUTE BY THE WAY.
SO I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TANGENTIALLY INVOLVED.
THIS IS LIKE DETAILED ENGINEERING STUFF THAT WE USUALLY DON'T GET IN THE MIDDLE OF.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THE EXISTING PIPE, THE SANITARY LINE PITCH WAS 0.1%.
IS THAT CORRECT? I DO NOT HAVE THE PLANS IN FRONT OF ME.
I JUST GOT THE LAST, I MEAN I JUST, MY CONVERSATION WITH THE ENGINEERS WAS, I GUESS THE CODE WAS 0.05% AND THEY HAD DONE IT AT 0.1%, WHICH IS DOUBLED.
THE CODE MINIMUM IS, AND I'M NOT ARGUING WITH THE ENGINEERING STAFF, I'M JUST ASKING IF WE'RE ON THE RIGHT CONVERSATION TOPIC.
WE ARE, I THINK IF YOU READ THE, THE COUNTY EMAIL FROM TODAY, UH, I, YEAH, I WASN'T ON IT.
I I CAN, I'LL BASICALLY GO INTO WHAT THEY SAY.
UH, THE BULLET 0.1 IS THAT THE DEPARTMENTAL APPROVAL IS REQUIRED FOR CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW PRIVATE SANITARY SEWER CONNECTION OR MODIFICATION OF EXISTING PRIVATE SANITARY SEWER, WHICH IS DESIGNED OR INTENDED TO CONVEY
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2,500 GALLONS PER DAY OR MORE.AND IT REFERENCES A SECTION OF THE CODE.
SUCH SANITARY SEWER SYSTEM MUST BE DESIGNED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE 10 STATE STANDARDS AND IT GOES INTO SOME MORE HERE.
BUT THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
IT'S THE FLOW AND THE SCOURING OF THE PIPE.
EMMA, DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, I'LL HAND IT OFF TO EMMA, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY AS TO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO SO THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD.
AND WE APPRECIATE THE ENGINEERING GUYS WHAT YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN DOING FOR US.
WE ARE WORKING ON, UH, REVISING OUR PLANS IN ORDER TO SATISFY, UH, THE COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AT THE TOWN.
UM, SO WE, WE ARE PLANNING TO REVISE THE PLANS IN ORDER TO SATISFY THOSE COMMENTS.
AND WHEN DO YOU EXPECT THAT THOSE WILL BE COMPLETE? UM, I AM HOPING TO BE WORKING ON THEM THIS WEEK.
I'LL HAVE TO DISCUSS FURTHER WITH PATRICK O'LEARY, WHO'S THE, THE PROJECT ENGINEER OF RECORD.
I JUST WANNA STATE ON THE TOWN'S END BETWEEN FRANK AND MYSELF AND OUR DEPARTMENTS, WE WILL DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO HELP.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE UH, ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS AND WE WANT TO SEE EVERYBODY GET BACK INTO THEIR, THEIR PLACES OF RESIDENCE.
UH, BUT WE WANT US TO MAKE SURE THAT GOING FORWARD THAT THERE'S NO PROBLEMS. RIGHT.
SO WE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE NOW.
ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR CONCERNS ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO MOVE THIS FORWARD? WELL, IT'S OUT OF OUR CONTROL.
WE NEED THE ENGINEERS TO FIGURE OUT AN ENGINEERING ISSUE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS GOING TO, AT LEAST WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THAT LETTER, IS GOING TO HAVE TO AGREE TO SOME SPECIFIC MAINTENANCE PLAN, ROUTINE MAINTENANCE PLAN, SHOULD THAT BE NECESSARY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THE SCOURING VELOCITY.
BUT THAT WOULD BE ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WOULDN'T BE ON THE TOWN.
AND I BELIEVE WE ALSO HAVE TO APPLY FOR THE SEWER, THE SEWER INSTALLATION PERMIT.
I JUST WANNA, I TO KEN'S POINT, BUT YOU KNOW, HITTING, HITTING WHAT WE HAVE TO DO NEXT.
SO WE ONLY HAVE THE PURCHASING.
UM, RICH, RICH, JUST HAVE A SEAT.
YOU ALMOST, YOU ALMOST GOT OUT.
FRANK, FRANK, YOU CAN LEAVE SEAT.
I BEFORE WE LEAVE AND THEY PULLED ME BACK IN.
I'LL CALL YOU WHEN WE'RE READY.
AS SOON AS HE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY, HE'S GONE.
FOLLOW UP ACTIONS ON FEDERAL GRANTS ISN'T IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN DO THAT? YEAH, JUST THE FUNDING REQUEST.
THAT'S ONE ANOTHER THING TO CHECK ON.
DO WE NEED, WHO PUT THIS ON PETER? I THINK THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN REFERENCE TO THE PULLED RESOLUTION LAST WEEK FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT HAD A PURCHASING PROCEDURE.
THAT LEFT IT OPEN FOR AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF, OF MONEY AND THEY PULLED THAT RESO.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANYONE HERE TO REVIEW, SO NEXT, RIGHT.
OKAY, SO BEFORE WE GO, SO WE CAN PUT THAT ON NEXT WEEK.
SO I JUST WANTED TO HA I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH PAUL AS IT WAS SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT, UM, THE CAPITAL FUNDING.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN ASKING WHAT CAN BE DELAYED UNTIL NEXT YEAR.
WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO SPEND THAT MONEY AND WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT MONEY'S GONNA BE SPENT IN THIS YEAR.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OF CONCERNS THAT KEEP COMING UP AND, UH, RICH AND I JUST HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS WITH REGARDS TO THE BABBITT COURT AND THE JACKSON AVENUE BRIDGE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH FUNDING FOR WHAT WE NEED TO DO BECAUSE IF SOMETHING GETS STARTED LATE IN THE YEAR, WE WANNA BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE FUNDINGS TO USE SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD ON IT.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO NOT REMOVE THAT FROM THE BUDGET AS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
'CAUSE YOU WERE ASKING WE, WE, WE STILL HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE APPROVAL FROM, FROM FEMA WITH REGARDS TO BABBITT COURT AND WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR SOME OTHER INFORMATION WITH REGARDS TO JACKSON AVENUE.
HE, HE WAS TALKING ABOUT CAPITAL FUNDING THAT HE WASN'T GONNA PUT, MAYBE HE ASKED HIM TO CUT.
WE WERE, WE WERE THE BABBITT COURT BASICALLY,
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UH, WE ALL ARE COMMITTED TO THAT, YOU KNOW, PROJECT.UM, THEY BASICALLY SAID THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE, WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THE AUTHORIZATION UNTIL 2024.
SO, UM, I BASICALLY SAID IF WE'RE NOT GONNA GET IT UNTIL 2024, THEN WE MIGHT AS WELL DEFER IT UNTIL 2024 CAPITAL BUDGET RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, PUT IT IN 2023.
SO I'M SORRY I WAS AWAY LAST WEEK.
UM, BUT I KNOW GINA, BRIAN AND I SPEAK WEEKLY, SOMETIMES DAILY, SORRY, BUT SOMETIMES HOURLY.
I THINK THE CONCERN IS FOR THESE TWO PROJECTS, WE WANT HAVE FUNDING IN THERE AT LEAST TO GET THE DESIGNS DONE.
YEAH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT, SO WE'D HAVE TO HOLD IT IN.
HE SAID YOU DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.
SO, SO CAN I MAKE A, IF YOU DIDN'T GET OUT SOON ENOUGH, COULD YOU SPEAK TO ROBERTA AND JUST TELL HER HOW MUCH YOU KNOW YOU WANT FOR THE DESIGN AND THEN MAYBE WHAT I'LL DO, WHAT I WOULD DO IS THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS THAT YOU THINK, ALRIGHT, DON'T WORK.
WHY DON'T WE ASK ROBERTA TO GIVE EVERYBODY A DRAFT BEFORE WE PRESENT IT AND THEN IF, IF, IF YOU FEEL THERE'S A MISTAKE WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST WEEK, THEN WE'LL THEN WE WILL, UH, WE WILL HAVE A FINAL DRIFT.
IS ROBERTA AROUND OR RUN? WELL, YOU CAN, I'M TELLING YOU.
BUT NO, BUT WE GOT THE DIRECTION.
I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE TO MOVE ON EXECUTIVE SESSION PLEASE.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS, DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS, CONTRACTS, UM, INVOLVING LEGAL SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS.
AND WE'RE NOT COMING BACK THIS EVENING.