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WELCOME TARA TOWN BOARD.OUR WORK SESSION TODAY IS MARCH 28TH, UM, AROUND 5 21.
AND, UH, OUR FIRST PRESENTATION IS LEAH WEGMAN AND, UH, ROGER BURKHART.
AND THEY'RE GONNA, UH, DO FOLLOW UP ON THE CONVERSATIONS WE HAD.
AND GINA, YOU HAVE SOME QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF THE, WE WERE GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS OR OH, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THE EMAIL THAT YOU SENT MM-HMM.
SO, JUST AS, AS A REF AS MR. YEAH, SIR, AS A REFRESHER, UH, MY NAME IS LEO WEGMAN.
I, I AM, UH, UM, WORKING WITH SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, WHICH IS A NONPROFIT OF WHICH TOWN OF GREENBURG IS A FOUNDING MEMBER.
IN FACT, THAT ORGANIZATION WAS FOUNDED OFFICIALLY IN THIS ROOM SEVEN YEARS AGO WHEN WE JOINED, JOINED THE NORTHERN AND SOUTHERN, UH, WESTCHESTER ENERGY ACTION CONSORTIUM.
I DIRECT SOLAR PROGRAMS FOR THE, UH, UH, THE, THE ORGANIZATION.
AND AS SUCH, WE ARE, UM, INTERESTED IN HELPING THE MEMBER MUNICIPALITIES, UH, FIGURE OUT WHERE ON THEIR OWN FACILITIES THEY CAN BEST CITE SOLAR AND ENERGY STORAGE FACILITIES, AND IF, IF APPROPRIATE, WHEN THOSE ARE GOING TO BE PROVIDING ENERGY DIRECTLY TO THE FACILITY FOR THE METER OF THE FACILITY, OR WHETHER THOSE, UM, SITES ARE LARGE ENOUGH THAT THEY CAN PROVIDE A COMMUNITY SOLAR BENEFIT TO LOCAL FAMILIES AND HOUSEHOLDS AND BUSINESSES TO SUBSCRIBE TO.
SO THE THOUGHT WAS THAT WE WOULD, UH, EXPLORE SOME VARIOUS SITES THAT THE TOWN OWNS AS POTENTIAL HOST SITES FOR POTENTIAL COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECTS.
AND THEN WE WOULD WORK WITH THE TOWN TO SORT OF, UH, TO, TO, UH, DEVELOP A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THOSE SITES AND TO SOLICIT THE APPROPRIATE, UH, UH, UH, UH, BIDS, IF YOU WILL, FROM SOLAR DEVELOPMENT FIRMS THAT WOULD USE THEIR OWN FUNDS TO DEVELOP THOSE SITES THAT WOULD THEN BENEFIT FROM THE INVESTMENT TAX CREDITS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS MAKING AVAILABLE SO THAT THE TOWN WOULD HAVE NO CAPITAL EXPENDITURE IN ERECTING THESE COMMITTEE SOLAR SITES, AND THAT THE TOWN WOULD LIKELY BENEFIT FROM, UH, A POTENTIAL LEASE PAYMENT FOR THAT, THAT SITE, EITHER THAT ROOF OR THE SPACE ABOVE THE PARKING LOT.
SO IF WE HAD A TOWN, LET'S SAY WE TOOK A SPOTS AT THE PARKING LOT HERE AND WE PUT SOLAR, UH, CANOPIES OVER, OVER, UM, THERE WOULD BE NO COST TO THE TOWN.
WE WOULD GET SOME REVENUE, BUT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER IS INTERESTED IN, UM, UH, LIKE OVERSEEING THE PROCESS AND WOULD TAKE, UM, SORT OF LIKE A, UH, UH, A NOMINAL SERVICE FEE THAT, THAT'S CORRECT.
SO YOU'RE ALREADY A DUES PAY MEMBER OF SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER.
SO THERE'S NO COST TO YOU FOR US TO PROVIDE THIS SERVICE, BUT IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE, THE, THE SOLO DEVELOPERS ARE, ARE ACCUSTOMED TO AN ADMINISTRATION FEE, OR ESSENTIALLY A SORT OF, UH, WHICH WE WOULD, THEY WOULD THEN PAY US FOR HELPING PUT THE, ALL THE WORK TOGETHER FOR THEM.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU WOULD HELP US CREATE THIS, THE SCOPE OF WORK, BUT WE WOULD BE PUTTING OUT THE R F P NOT IN SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER? IT CAN GO EITHER WAY.
UM, BUT THAT'S ENTIRELY UP TO THE TOWN.
YEAH, WE SHOULD WE, I MEAN, WE SHOULD BE MONITOR IF WE ARE GONNA GO INTO CONTRACT, WE SHOULD BE, WE SHOULD BE OVERSEEING THAT.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO PREPARE A DRAFT SCOPE OF WORK, SCOPE OF WORK FOR THIS KIND OF MM-HMM.
SO YOU HAVE LANGUAGE, AND YOU PROBABLY HAVE A, A LANGUAGE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IN, IN ANY R F P YOU SEND OUT FOR THIS KIND OF EXACTLY.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO GIVE YOU THE SOLAR, THE SOLAR PARTICULARS IF YOU WILL MM-HMM.
UH, AND THEN, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU ISSUE IT, THAT'S TOTALLY FINE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL SUPPORT, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, IF THE, THE TOWN WISHES, AND I WOULD PROBABLY RECOMMEND THIS, THAT, BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE A COUPLE OF SITES THAT I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU HAVE A MANDATORY SITE VISIT, PRE-BID SITE VISIT MM-HMM.
THAT TELLS YOU TWO THINGS, WHETHER ANYBODY IS INTERESTED MM-HMM.
SO THEN YOU COULD FOLLOW UP WITH A WRITTEN NUMBER, BUT THEN EVERYONE HAS SEEN THE SAME SITUATION AND CONDITIONS MM-HMM.
NOW, DID YOU, GINA, WAS YOUR CONCERN, UM, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDE THAT WE WANT TO PROCEED, YOU KNOW, WHETHER OUR WOULD THIS, DO YOU, WOULD YOU HAVE OBJECTION, SAY IF SUSTAINABLE, YOU KNOW, WESTCHESTER WOULD LIKE OVERSEE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS, OR WOULD YOU RATHER NO, THAT'S A, IN, THAT'S THE IN-HOUSE PROCESS.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN, SO ISSUING THE R FEE, SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALSO HAPPY I, AND YOU CAN RE IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THE TOWN AS TO HOW MUCH GUIDANCE YOU WOULD LIKE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP PREPARE THE, THE, THE SORT OF PART OF WORK, PARTICULAR THE PARTICULARS OF SCOPE OF WORK.
AND WE'RE ALSO HAPPY TO THEN DO HELP YOU WITH THE BID ANALYSIS WHEN THOSE THINGS COME BACK.
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OF THINGS.UM, AND THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, SORT OF COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES MM-HMM.
AND THEN WE'RE HAPPY TO, UH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHAT WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DO IS WORK WITH YOU TO IDENTIFY THE TARGET AUDIENCE.
IF THESE ARE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE FOR THE SUBSCRIPTIONS TO THESE ULTIMATE, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE INSTALLATIONS.
AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN TARGETING THROUGHOUT WESTCHESTER COUNTY, THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS TO BENEFIT FROM THE GUARANTEED SAVINGS ON THEIR ELECTRIC BILLS THAT THESE SYSTEMS CAN GENERATE.
I MEAN, I GET CONCERNED WHEN YOU SAY GUARANTEED SAVINGS, 'CAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME CHALLENGES, YOU KNOW.
BUT OUR CURRENT PLANS, SO I'LL BE VERY, RIGHT.
SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A VERY, BE VERY MINDFUL TO SAY GUARANTEED SAVINGS, AS I SAID IT VERY SPECIFICALLY JEN.
SO, SO UNDER THE STATE RULES AND REGULATIONS, IF A SOLAR DEVELOPER PROPOSES A COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE SUBSCRIBED TO BY LOCAL RESIDENTS AND SMALL BUSINESSES, UM, THEY ARE GOING TO RECEIVE A STATE GRANT TO DO THAT, TO LOWER THE COST.
BUT PART OF THE PRICE OF DOING THAT IS THAT THEY THEN HAVE TO PASS ON A SAVINGS OF MINIMUM 5% FOR THE PROPORTION OF ENERGY ASSIGNED EACH MONTH TO EACH ACCOUNT.
NOW YOU, IF YOU HAVE A HUNDRED PEOPLE PARTICIPATING IN A PROJECT, AND IT'S A LARGE PROJECT, YOU MAY HAVE SOME HOUSEHOLDS THAT ARE SIMPLY LARGER AND USE MORE ENERGY MM-HMM.
SO THEIR SHARE MIGHT BE TWICE WHAT A SMALLER HOUSEHOLD MIGHT BE.
AND THEN YOU ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THAT SUPPLY THAT WAS INJECTED, BUT I'M GONNA GIVE YOU A 10 OR FIVE, A MINIMUM OF 5% DISCOUNT ON IT.
UM, BECAUSE IT'S CHEAPER FOR THE UTILITY TO BUY THE ELECTRICITY FROM THE ELECTRIC SOLAR FARM THAN IT IS FROM THE, THE INDIVIDUAL, THE PEAKER PLANTS THAT THEY'RE TURNING ON.
SO THERE'S A SAVINGS THAT'S GENERATED, AND IT'S MANDATED THAT THAT SAVINGS BE PARTIALLY PASSED ON TO THE END USER.
UM, AND BECAUSE WE'RE OPERATING IN AN AREA WHERE WE'RE, WHERE, WHERE, WHERE WE HAVE, UM, A LARGE ENOUGH CUSTOMER BASE WE'VE BEEN SUSTAINED, WESTCHESTER HAS BEEN ABLE TO, UM, PUSH THE 5% TO A 10% DISCOUNT ON THE SOLAR CREDITS THAT ARE ASSIGNED AND ALLOCATED TO EACH ACCOUNT EACH MONTH.
SO IN, IN THE SOLAR WORLD, IN THE COMMUNITY, SOLAR WORLD, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S MORE SUNSHINE IN THE SUMMER, SO THE VOLUME OF CREDITS IS LARGER, BUT YOUR SHARE OF FIVE OR 10% OF THE WHOLE THING REMAINS THE SAME, AND YOUR DISCOUNT REMAINS THE SAME FROM MONTH TO MONTH.
YOUR DISCOUNT REMAINS THE SAME, SAME 5% OR 10%, NOT THE SAME FIXED AMOUNT.
IT'S A PROPORTION OF THE PRODUCTION OF THAT SYSTEM.
I, I CONFUSE THINGS BY SAYING 10%.
THE ONLY QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I HAVE, AND I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE RIGHT ANSWER IS, BUT I FEEL THAT IF WE SET TO SUSTAINABLE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SAY INTERESTED IN THIS, YOU KNOW, WE, THEY SHOULD DO THE R I'M JUST THROWING OUT, THEY SHOULD THROW OUT DO THE R YOU KNOW, R F P, THEY SHOULD GIVE US THE, THE BEST POSSIBLE THING.
THEY SHOULD SORT OF MANAGE IT.
THE, THE, UH, THE BENEFIT IS THAT I FEEL THAT A LOT D P W AND A LOT OF THE TOWN STAFF ARE SO SWAMPED WITH ALL THESE OTHER, UH, ISSUES THAT I HAVE A FAILING THAT IF WE DO IT IN HOUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOING TO TAKE FOREVER, YOU KNOW, TO GET DONE.
BECAUSE THEY'RE REALLY SHORT-STAFFED.
ON THE OTHER HAND, SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER HAS DONE THIS AND THEY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING, AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET SOMETHING DONE, UH, YOU KNOW, QUICKER.
I MEAN, THAT'S JUST MY OWN FEELING.
ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE ISSUE OF, YOU KNOW, PROCUREMENTS.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF WE COULD GET THE, ONCE WE GET LIKE A CANOPY, UM, SOLAR CANOPIES SOMEWHERE, OR MORE SOLAR, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WILL GENERATE A LOT OF MOMENTUM WITH COMMERCIAL, OTHER COMMERCIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES AND ELSEWHERE.
WELL, LET ME, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
SO, UM, THE PARKING CANOPY, WE WOULD HAVE TO CONSTRUCT THE PARKING CANOPY BEFORE YOU COULD PUT SOLAR PANELS ON, OR YOU WOULD DO IT NO.
THE, THE SOLAR, SO THERE, THE, THE SOLAR DEVELOPER THAT WAS AWARDED THE JOB WOULD BE THE TURNKEY CONSTRUCTION AND INSTALLATION.
THEY WOULD HAVE TO MEET YOUR INSURANCE REQUIREMENTS.
THEY WOULD DO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE CANOPY ITSELF, WORKING OBVIOUSLY WITH YOUR, YOUR STAFFED TO BE ABLE, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, AND, AND IF IT'S A PARKING LOT HERE VERSUS THE, THE AT VETERANS' PARK.
IT IS A QUESTION OF STAGING AND ALL THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
IT'S A COORDINATION OF TRADES.
IS THERE ANY DISCRETION IN THE AESTHETIC OF THE CANOPIES? UH, SO THAT WOULD HAPPEN UPFRONT.
WHEN YOU ASK FOR, IN, IN THE R F P, YOU CAN ASK PEOPLE TO SUPPLY,
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YOU KNOW, IMAGES OF THE CANOPIES THAT THEY ARE PROPOSING HERE.NOW, IN THE LAST FIVE TO 10 YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF, LOTS OF DIFFERENT CANOPY COMPANIES HAVE DEVELOPED WAYS TO DO THIS.
UM, AND THEY HAVE VARIOUS, YOU KNOW, WORKS AND FIELDS.
SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, ELLEN.
SO IF ONCE THE R F P COMES OUT, ONCE THEY SUBMIT THEIR PROPOSAL, THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GOING TO MEET THE SPECS THAT WE LAY OUT SAYING THAT WHAT, WHAT WE, WHAT WE REQUIRE.
I MEAN, THEY MAY BRING PICTURES OR THEY BRING SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE PUT OUT, WELL, THEY'RE CREATING THE STRUCTURES FOR IT IS WHAT LEO SAID.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE CREATING THE PARKING STRUCTURES THAT THE SOLAR PANELS ARE GONNA GO ON.
IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN, YOU KNOW, WHAT MATERIALS ARE THEY USING? ARE THEY USING, SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE RIGHT.
THERE'LL BE CONCRETE POURED FOOTINGS IN ALMOST IN, IN EVERY CASE, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
AND THEN THERE'S THIS A GALVANIZED STEEL COLUMN THAT GOES UP AND THEN IT'S, YOU KNOW, A, A A A.
SO THERE'S NO, THE, THE AESTHETIC IS THERE'S NO CHOICE OF AESTHETIC.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF FLEXIBILITY BECAUSE YOU DID NEED ADEQUATE STEEL TO, TO, FOR THE WIND AND SNOW LOAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND SO THERE, THERE ARE AESTHETIC CONSIDERATIONS EVEN WITHIN THAT.
AND IF THE, IF THE, AND IF THE TOWN HAS THOSE, THAT WE CAN ARTICULATE THOSE, OR CONVERSELY, OR IF WE CAN ARTICULATE THAT WE HAVE, THAT THE TOWN HAS AN INTEREST IN THE AESTHETICS AND WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE, YOU KNOW, SAMPLE PHOTOGRAPHS OF SIMILAR, SIMILAR CONSTRUCTIONS.
SO YOU, OR EVEN, UH, OTHER SITES LOCALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT HAVE BEEN, THAT THEY'VE ERECTED.
SO YOU CAN GO SEE THEM IN PERSON.
UH, RIGHT NOW, 52 MANHATTAN AVENUE.
IS THAT A TOWN PROPERTY? 52 MANHATTAN? NO, IT'S THE HOUSING.
IT'S ON THIS LIST BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED IT AT THE LAST WORK SESSION.
SO I PUT IT ON THE BOTTOM OF THE, THE LIST THERE, JUST TO HAVE IT, JUST TO FLAG IT.
THAT THAT'S SORT OF A PHASE TWO LIST.
BUT WE ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THE, UH, LEYS D P W GARAGE, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND SO LEY, THE, THE VILLAGE MANAGER CALLED ME ABOUT THAT PROJECT, AND THEN I MENTIONED, SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL STEP BACK A MOMENT.
SO IN ADDITION TO HELPING YOU DO SORT OF A BID ANALYSIS, SO YOU CAN COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES WITH THE PROPOSALS THAT COME IN, AND THAT WOULD INVOLVE, I'D BE, I'D ALSO BE HAPPY TO BE SORT OF TAKING THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE FIRST PROPOSALS WE GET IN.
'CAUSE SOMETIMES YOU WANT TO GO BACK TO BIDDER'S SAKE AND YOU EXPLAIN THIS, THIS, AND THIS AND REVISE THE PROPOSAL.
I'M DOING THAT RIGHT NOW FOR PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH IN MOUNT KISCO.
SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROPOSALS, LINING THEM UP, DOING A BID ANALYSIS, GOING BACK AND GETTING A SECOND ROUND OF INFORMATION SO I CAN, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GO BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, WE HAVE A FULLER PICTURE MM-HMM.
UM, WE'LL ALSO BE HAPPY TO, UH, UH, BE PRESENT DURING ANY SITE WALK, ANY MAN MANDATORY PRE-VISIT.
UH, SO WE CAN HELP INTERPRET OR, OR DO ANY, ANY KIND OF HELP THERE.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UM, WE ARE, UH, ALSO, WE KNOW ABOUT OTHER SITES THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THAT MAY WANT TO PIGGYBACK ON THIS PROCUREMENT PROCESS ONCE YOU'VE GONE THROUGH IT.
AND SO YOU, YOU MAY BE, BY VIRTUE OF HAVING DONE THIS, YOU, YOU MAY BE OPENING THE DOOR UP FOR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, LIKE THE VILLAGE OF LEY, THE VILLAGE PUBLIC, WHICH IS JUST GOING OUT TO CONSTRUCTION BID FOR ITS PUBLIC WORKS FACILITY TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SAME PROCESS MM-HMM.
WHICH IS BENEFICIAL TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
SO, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SORT OF HELP EXPLAIN, I, I DON'T REMEMBER, DID YOU, HAVE YOU DONE THIS FOR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES YET AT THIS POINT? UM, WE'VE DONE IT FOR, UM, A NUMBER OF, OF, OF LOCATIONS WHERE, UH, WE HAD, WE DID THE SOLAR RIGHTS PROGRAM WHERE WE DID QUITE A FEW, UM, 600, UH, PROJECTS AROUND THE COUNTY.
UM, AND WE'VE CURRENTLY BEEN SPENDING TIME THE LAST TWO YEARS FOCUSING ON COMMUNITY SOLAR ENROLLMENTS, ENROLLING PEOPLE IN PROJECTS THAT WERE, THAT WERE BEING DEVELOPED.
AND NOW WE'RE TURNING, GOING BACK TO THE MODEL OF GOING BACK TO SITE HOSTS TO HELP THEM DEVELOP THEIR OWN SITES FOR PROJECTS USING, UH, IN MANY CASES, UH, NOT THEIR OWN CAPITAL, BUT, BUT CAPITALIST PROVIDED BY THE SOLAR DEVELOPS WHO ARE GOING TO BE, BE FUNDING THE PROJECT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I ALSO LOOK AT THIS AS ALMOST LIKE A, A PILOT PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE GO, IF WE CREATE A, I'M LOOKING AT, SAY THE SOLAR CA PARKING CANOPIES.
IT'S NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A VERY BIG TICKET ITEM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF SOLVING THE SUSTAINABLE CRISIS.
BUT BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE LEADING BY EXAMPLE, AND WE'RE SETTING, WE'RE, WE'RE BASICALLY TRYING TO GENERATE MOMENTUM AND ENCOURAGE, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL LANDLORDS TO DO THE SAME THING.
SO TO ME, UM, IF WE BASICALLY GO WITH A, UH, A NOT-FOR-PROFIT ORGANIZATION LIKE SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER THAT, YOU KNOW, DEVOTES THEIR ENTIRE ENERGY TO SUSTAINABLE ENERGY ISSUES, UM, YOU KNOW, I SORT OF FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PROBABLY GET SOMETHING DONE, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE 20 WEEKS THAT
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THEY'VE, THEY'VE SAID THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE, AND THEN WE COULD, YOU KNOW, PROCEED WITH ENCOURAGING, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL, UH, LANDLORDS TO DO SOMETHING MUCH MM-HMM.SO AGAIN, AND PRINCIPLE, IS IT, IT SOUNDS GREAT.
UM, THE ISSUE WITH, I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE HAVE THE DISCUSSION OR THAT LEO SIT DOWN WITH, EXCUSE ME, WITH D P W, WITH THE RICH AND, AND DISCUSS WHAT IS INVOLVED SO WE CAN SEE HOW, YOU KNOW, TO GINA'S CONCERNS WHICH ARE VALID.
I GUESS MY CONCERN IS THAT WE, WE ARE GIVING AN OUTSIDE ENTITY MAKING DECISIONS FOR US THAT SHOULD BE MADE IN-HOUSE.
SO ALL THOSE SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER IS WILLING TO DO ALL, YOU KNOW, HELP US OUT AND EVERYTHING.
THEY CAN ULTIMATELY GIVE THAT AWARD TO A PARTNER.
SO I'M, WE'RE NOT, I'M JUST, WE'RE, YEAH, WE'RE NOT GIVING THE AWARD.
I, I DID, I DIDN'T SAY YOU WOULD, BUT IF YOU'RE, IF AS TO PAUL, THE WAY PAUL DESCRIBED IT, THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE, YES, WE ARE OVERWHELMED CLEARLY, BUT ALLOW YOU TO HANDLE THAT PROCESS.
BUT AS YOU ARE REVIEWING THE BIDS, AND WE MAY BE IN A FRIEND, WE MAY BE IN A ROOM, HOWEVER, THERE MAY BE FAVORITISM TO AN ENTITY THAT YOU ALREADY CURRENTLY WORK WITH.
I JUST, I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE.
I'M JUST NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT PROCUREMENT, IF WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT BIDS THAT NEEDS TO BE IN-HOUSE, BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE DON'T, WE WOULDN'T WANT THEM TO SHOW ANY TYPE OF FAVORITISM.
LET, LEMME ASK YOU A QUESTION, AND I'M, I'M NOT DISAGREEING, YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING THIS IS BASICALLY, LET'S SAY YOU'RE CONCERNED, WE DON'T, NOBODY ON THE BOARD WANTS ANY FAVOR IN TREATMENT FOR ANYBODY.
AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT ABOUT IT.
IS THERE LIKE A WAY OF, UM, DOING IT WHERE IF, LET'S SAY SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER WOULD MANAGE THE PROCESS WHERE, UH, THE TOWN WOULD THEN, UH, BE INVOLVED IN, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY GIVING YOU OTHER NAMES OF SOLAR COMPANIES OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S NOT HOW THAT, BUT WE GOTTA REMEMBER HOW THAT WORKS.
SO WHOEVER, ONCE WE PUT THE R F Q OUT THERE, OR R F P OUT THERE, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BID ON THAT PROCESS SO THAT WE ARE GOING TO RECEIVE BID PROPOSALS FROM WHOEVER SAYS, OKAY, I'M INTERESTED IN THIS PROJECT, SO WE SHOULD BE, WE SHOULD BE A PART OF THAT.
SO THERE'S NOT SO SUSTAIN SUSTAINABLE, WESTCHESTER IS NOT GONNA SAY, OH, LET ME PICK JOE, ELLEN, AND FRANCIS TO DO ALL THAT DO THAT WE WE'RE GONNA RECEIVE THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH A FULL BID, WE WOULD BE PROCUREMENT PROCESS.
BUT, BUT NOW IT'S NOT TO SAY, IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD QUESTIONS AND EXPERTISE IN CERTAIN AREAS, WE CAN RELY ON THAT.
WHICH, WHICH, AND RICH IS GONNA KILL ME IF HE'S LISTENING RICH AND, AND BRIAN IS GOING, WE COULD HELP LOOK AT THAT, BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS GONNA FALL UNDER A PROJECT WITHIN PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE WE ARE DOING STUFF TO OUR BUILDING, WE'RE TAILORING OUR BUILDINGS.
I HAVE NO, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID.
I'M JUST ASKING IN TERMS OF MANAGE, LIKE THE NEXT STEP, WOULD YOU HAVE, I MEAN, THERE'S REALLY TWO THINGS WOULD OPTION ONE IS TO SAY TO SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, YOU LIKE OVERSEE, YOU KNOW, THIS WHOLE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PROCESS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THE TOWN WOULD, UH, WOULD WANT TO BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, REVIEW ALL THE, UM, THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS THAT COME IN.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IT'S WIDELY ADVERTISED AND ULTIMATELY IT'S OUR DECISION RATHER THAN SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER'S AS TO WHO WE WOULD USE.
OPTION TWO WOULD BE INSTEAD OF USING SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, YOU KNOW, AS THE LIKE MANAGER OF THE PROCESS.
SO YOU, SO I JUST, JUST SO I'M CLEAR, AND IF EVERYBODY COULD BE CLEAR YEAH.
WHEN YOU SAY PROCESS, WHAT PROCESS ARE YOU REFERRING TO? OKAY.
'CAUSE WHAT YOU JUST OUTLINED IS THE PROCESS.
NO, THE, THE, NO, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, LIKE TO ME, IF I SAY TO RICH AND PUBLIC WORKS, YOU COME UP WITH THE R F P, YOU MET, THIS IS ANOTHER PROCESS IN THE NEXT 20 WEEKS, WE WANT YOU TO DO THIS.
THEY'RE GONNA SAY, WE HAVE THE HIGHWAY GARAGE, WE HAVE THE LIBRARY, WE HAVE 3000 OTHER SIDEWALKS.
WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME TO DO IT.
AND THEN NOTHING'S GONNA REALLY GET DONE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF WE FARM IT OUT, I'M JUST SORT OF LIKE THE PROJECT PROJECT MANAGER AND APPLES A LITTLE BIT.
SO YOU'RE MIXING ORANGE AND APPLES.
I THINK, I THINK I UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT GINA IS ASKING AS HAVING SAT ON YOUR SIDE OF THE TABLE FOR 12 YEARS AS A TRUSTEE AND MAYOR.
I'M SIMPLY HERE AS A TECHNICAL CONSULTANT, RIGHT.
TO HELP THE TOWN FIGURE OUT WHAT THE R F P FOR THIS SPECIFIC APPLICATION SHOULD, WHAT SCOPE OF, WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY SCOPE OF WORK? SCOPE OF YES, YES.
WHAT THE SCOPE OF WORK SHOULD INCLUDE AND, AND, AND WHAT, WHAT KIND OF QUALIFICATIONS YOU WANT FROM THE FIRMS. AND MAYBE EVEN A SUGGESTION OF THE FIRMS THAT WE KNOW ARE ACTIVE IN THE COUNTY THAT, THAT HAVE DONE SIMILAR WORK MM-HMM.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST, I MEAN, YOU CAN, ONCE YOU PUBLISH IT, IT'S, IT'S OUT THERE IN THE WILD.
BUT MAYBE YOU WANNA BE SURE THAT, THAT THE SIX PLACES THAT HAVE RESPONSIBLE WORK RECENTLY AND KNOW ABOUT IT MM-HMM.
UM, AND SO WE COULD HELP, HELP MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, THAT THE, THE REPUTABLE, RELIABLE FIRMS KNOW ABOUT THIS AND ARE EXCITED AND SHOW UP FOR THE, YOU KNOW, SITE WALK.
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UM, AND THEN, UM, BEYOND THAT WE ARE, WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE SORT OF THE, A TECHNICAL ANALYSIS OF THE BIDS WHEN THEY COME IN MM-HMM.SO THAT, 'CAUSE ALL EVERYBODY'S PROPOSAL WILL LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT, EVEN IF YOU GIVE 'EM A SET OF CHECK MARKS MM-HMM.
SO THAT WAY YOU'LL HAVE EITHER A UNIFORM SET OF QUESTIONS TO GIVE BACK TO THE MM-HMM.
UM, AND UM, THEN, UH, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE KIND OF HELP THAT I WAS ENVISIONING.
SO, SO I'M, I'M REALLY OVER, I'M NOT OVERSEEING A PROJECT FOR YOU.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE PRO WE'RE PROVIDING YOU SPECIFIC RESOURCES THAT ARE HIGHLY TECHNICAL TO THIS FIELD.
YOU KNOW, HE, SO THAT'S WHY IT SAYS WISHES WHAT I ENVISION.
I MEAN SOME, HE CAN OFFER SOME INFORMATION AND SAY, THESE ARE MADE OF, THESE ARE THE SPECS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER OR THINK ABOUT THAT AS YOU CAN PREPARE THE SCOPE OF WORK SO HE CAN HELP GIVE US THAT TYPE OF BACKGROUND BASED ON WHAT YOU KNOW OF THE, UM, AND THEN THAT'S, AND THAT'S WORKING WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND MAKING SURE THAT
UM, SO DOES IT'S NOT COMING FROM THE TOWN.
DO YOU HAVE OBJECTIONS, YOU KNOW, TO THAT ULTIMATELY IT IS THOUGH, RIGHT? YES.
BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA FACTOR THAT INTO THEIR BID, RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT IT GETS SPREAD OVER 20 YEARS.
SO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH THOSE KIND OF THINGS, RIGHT? RIGHT.
BUT I'M SAYING, DO YOU HAVE, AND TO ELLEN'S POINT, DIFFERENT PANELS, SOME ARE UGLY RIGHT.
AND SO THERE IS A DEGREE OF AESTHETICS DEPENDING ON WHICH PANELS THEY USE.
SOME YOU HAVE THE STRIPES BETWEEN THE PANELS, YOU KNOW, WHICH YEAH.
SO IF, IF, IF, AND IF THE TOWN HAD A, HAD A VIEW ON THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR WHAT WOULD BE ON THE ROOF OF THIS BUILDING THAT WOULD BE VISIBLE FROM THE STREET, THEN, THEN THAT COULD BE ARTICULATED.
WELL, I WOULD ENVISION THAT WE'D BE THE ONES AWARDING THE BIDS.
SO MAYBE YOU WOULD GIVE US THE TOP TWO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, I AM CONCERNED WITH THE NEXT LINE WHICH SAYS SUSTAINABILITY, I'M SORRY.
SUSTAINABILITY WOULD ALSO SEEK TO PROVIDE PROJECT SERVICES TO THE DEVELOPER FOR CUSTOMER ACQUISITION AND SUBSCRIPTION MANAGER.
THESE RATES ARE TYPICALLY NEGOTIATED BETWEEN THE DEVELOPER AND THE SERVICE PROVIDER ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
BUT IF WE AWARD THE CONTRACT TO A PARTICULAR ONE, WHAT NEGOTIATING CAPABILITY DO THEY HAVE? BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT WE'RE AWARDING IT TO MM-HMM.
SO, SO ALL OF THESE PROJECTS NEED TO BE, IF IT'S A COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECT, AND IT'S GONNA RELY ON INDIVIDUAL HOUSEHOLDS AND SMALL BUSINESSES TO ENROLL, THOSE PROJECTS ALL NEED TO BE FULLY ENROLLED BEFORE THEY'RE TURNED ON EFFECTIVELY.
AND ALL OF THE, ANY DEVELOPER WILL HAVE A BUDGET AGAINST WHICH THEY ACQUIRE CUSTOMERS.
AND ONE OF OUR SERVICES IS WE'VE ACQUIRED THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF CUSTOMERS FOR COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECTS FOR OVER A DOZEN DIFFERENT DEVELOPERS AT 24 DIFFERENT SOLAR FARMS IN THE PAST TWO YEARS.
THIS IS A REGULAR PART OF OUR BUSINESS THAT WE PROVIDE.
AND WE DO THAT BY RUNNING VERY LOCALIZED CAMPAIGNS IN EACH OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES FOR THAT EFFORT.
AND, UH, SO, AND WE, WE CHARGE A, A, A SERVICE FEE FOR THAT TO THE DEVELOPER.
THEY BUDGET FOR IT, THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO BE FULLY SUBSCRIBED.
AND THEN WE MANAGE THAT PROCESS.
'CAUSE OVER TIME PEOPLE WILL MOVE AWAY.
YOU NEED TO REPLACE PEOPLE AND SO ON.
SO THAT'S A REGULAR PART OF OUR, OUR SORT OF SERVICE AS A FEE.
THERE'S THIS MODEL THERE, THERE ARE OTHER PRIVATE SECTOR FIRMS THAT DO THAT.
THEY'RE BASICALLY SELLING YOUR DATA, WHICH IS, WELL, WE'RE NOT, NOT SELLING THE DATA.
WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE GOING OUT AND, AND, AND, AND, AND ACQUIRING SIGNING UP CUSTOMERS FOR THEM.
TRACKING A FEE FOR THE DATA THAT YOU ALREADY HAVE.
WHICH THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT.
SO THE DATA BECOMES THE DATABASE, THE DATA DATABASE.
BUT WHY ISN'T IT, WHY IS IT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS? OH, WELL, SO, OKAY, SO SORRY.
UM, IF, IF THE, THE RATE THAT WE CHARGE VARIES BY THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT, HOW, AND HOW MUCH OF THE PROJECT THEY WANT TO HAVE SUBSCRIBED BY A CERTAIN KIND OF CUSTOMER.
AND SO IT, IT, IT VARIES BY 10 OF THE PENNY.
IT'S NOT A HUGE DIFFERENT DIFFERENCE.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT JUST ONE NUMBER FOR EVERY SIZE PROJECT, FOR EVERY SIZE CUSTOMER POOL.
BUT, BUT SINCE YOU'RE DEALING WITH A GOVERNMENT AGENCY, I WOULD BE MORE COMFORTABLE IF THERE WAS SOME FORMULA THAT WOULD BE USED AS OPPOSED TO, YOU NEGOTIATE WITH THIS PERSON DIFFERENTLY THAN THAT PERSON.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHATEVER IT IS.
THAT NO, THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
THERE SHOULD BE MORE TRANSPARENCY.
SO WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN, I MEAN, WE'RE HAPPY TO SORT OF STATE, UH, GET WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE.
WHAT THE, WHAT THE PARAMETERS ARE FOR, FOR WHAT OUR FEE FEE BASIS IS AT THIS POINT.
YEAH, THAT'S, SO I GUESS, I GUESS IT'S A COUPLE, IT'S A COUPLE PENNIES PER KILOWATT HOUR.
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IT'S PRETTY SMALL, BUT WE ARE THE CUSTOMER.NO, NO, I MEANT FOR THE END USER, THE HOUSEHOLD THAT ENDS UP SUB SUBSCRIBING THE CUS THE, THE, THE SOLAR DEVELOPER THAT DEVELOPS A SOLAR FARM AND NEEDS 150 HOUSEHOLDS TO SUBSCRIBE HAS TO GO OUT AND FIND THOSE PEOPLE.
SO WE DO THAT FOR THEM AND WE DELIVER THOSE CUSTOMERS TO THAT, UH, SERVICE PROVIDER, THE DEVELOPER.
AND THEY BASICALLY PAY US A WHAT AMOUNTS TO A COMMISSION FOR BRINGING THE CUSTOMERS.
SO I HAD TO RAISE MY HAND ONE MORE TIME 'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS WHERE I'M I'M, BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE LOCATIONS THAT ARE LISTED HERE, WHICH IS ALL OUR TOWN FACILITIES, WHICH IS WHERE, THIS IS WHAT THIS R F P IS TO PUT THE SOLAR PANELS ON IN.
SO WHAT AM WHAT AM I MISSING? BECAUSE WE, WE, SO, SO YOU WOULD, SO THE TOWN WOULD BE THE CUSTOMER IF THE SOLAR ENERGY FROM THE SYSTEM, WE'RE GOING TO BE FEEDING THE TOWN'S METER AT THAT FACILITY ONLY, BUT IN COMMUNITY SOLAR AND, AND ALL OF THIS CAN BE DONE TO FEED THE METER OF EACH FACILITY.
BUT THE, AN ALTERNATIVE MODEL IS THAT YOU DEVELOP A SOLAR SYSTEM, WHICH IS LARGE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT ELECTRIC USE FOR, YOU KNOW, 50 TO A HUNDRED FAMILIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, LET'S SAY.
AND THAT THEY SUBSCRIBE AND THAT THEY GET THE DISCOUNT WITHOUT HAVING TO PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR OWN ROOF WITHOUT HAVING TO PUT SOLAR PANELS ON THEIR OWN ROOF.
SO IT'S A SHARED, IT'S A SHARED SOLAR.
IT'S A, IT'S OTHERWISE CALLED COMMUNITY SOLAR.
UM, AND IT'S A CENTRALLY LOCATED SOLAR FARM.
AND GREENBERG ACTUALLY HOSTS QUITE A LARGE NUMBER OF THESE ACTUALLY ON OFFICE PARK ROOFS IN HAWTHORNE, OTHER PLACES, UM, UH, ELMSFORD.
AND SO, UH, IN THAT CASE, UH, THERE MAY BE 150 FAMILIES THAT, THAT CAN SUBSCRIBE TO A SOLAR FARM THAT'S ON A BIG OFFICE PARK ROOF.
THE OFFICE PARK WAS, HAD, HAD ROOF BEFORE THAT WASN'T EARNING ANY IN THE OFFICE.
SO IT TURNING A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR RENTING OUT ITS ROOF.
BUT FOR THAT, THEY THEN HAVE TO PASS ON THAT DISCOUNT TO THE 150 FAMILIES THAT SUBSCRIBED.
THE SOLAR FARM IS WHAT I MISSED.
THIS IS, WE'RE THE CUSTOMER HERE.
SO THAT WAS THE THAT'S WHAT I, SO, SO YOU COULD DECIDE THAT YOU, THAT YOU PREFER TO SEND ALL THIS ENERGY INTO, UH, THE LOWEST BRONX CHILDREN'S CENTER MM-HMM.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY IF THAT WERE TO BE THE CASE THEN, THEN IT WOULD BE NOT BE A COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECT, IT WOULD BE JUST A BEHIND THE METER PROJECT.
WELL, MAYBE WE NEED TO FIGURE IT OUT.
WE WOULD WANNA FACTOR HOW MUCH SOLAR WE COULD GENERATE AND TO, AND THEN DEDUCT HOW MUCH COULD BE APPLIED TO OUR FACILITIES AND WHATEVER THE BALANCE MIGHT BE.
TO THE, IT HAS SOME X AMOUNT OF HASSLES.
IT, IT CAN BE DONE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SORT OF GIVE YOU TECHNICAL ADVICE ON THAT.
THE PROJECT MAY NOT BE LARGE ENOUGH TO BEAR THAT SET UP COST.
UM, OTHER PROJECTS, THE ONES THAT ARE OVER 500 KILOWATTS ARE EASILY LARGE ENOUGH THAT THEY COULD EASILY BE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECTS WITHOUT ANY, WITH ALL, ALL THE ECONOMY OF SCALE TO PLAY A ROLE THERE.
SO IT WOULD BE A QUESTION OF, UH, AND THESE OTHER SITES HAD COME UP IN VARIOUS MEETINGS, SO I JUST KIND OF BROKE THEM ALL DOWN AND WENT AND DID THE RESEARCH ON THEM.
UM, UH, AND, AND, UH, UM, ANYWAY, SO, SO THE, THE QUESTION OF WHETHER YOU HAVE A COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECT OR NOT IS REALLY A SORT OF AN EARLY PATHWAY THAT YOU WANT TO CHOOSE OR, OR YOU, YOU COULD GO OUT AND SAY, I'M NOT SURE RIGHT.
IN THE R F P AND GIVE ME BOTH OPTIONS.
UM, I WOULD LIKE, WE COULD DO THAT TOO.
PART, PART OF IT'S GOING TO BE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANY ROOFS, QUITE FRANKLY, THAT HAVE ANOTHER 25 YEARS OF LIFESPAN IN THEM.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE PUTTING PO UM, PANELS UP ON SOMETHING THAT'S GOT FIVE OR 10 YEARS LEFT BECAUSE YEAH.
YOU WOULD WANT, YOU WOULD WANT A ROOF AND, AND SOMETIMES THAT SOME, YEAH.
SO, SO IT MAY BE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY ON PUT PUTTING UP ROOFS, A TAXPAYER'S EXPENSE, AND THEN NOT GET SOMETHING BACK FROM THE SOLAR TO COMPENSATE FOR THAT PAYMENT THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE IN ORDER TO PUT THE SOLAR PANELS.
SO THE SAME THING IS TRUE FOR THE, UH, ANTHONY VETERAN PARK YOU HAVE IN HERE THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT THE SUBSURFACE OR SUBSTRATE ISSUES.
WE KNOW A GOOD AMOUNT OF THE PARKING LOT IS IN, IS DESPERATELY IN NEED OF BEING BASICALLY REPAVED.
UM, SO YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT THE CANOPIES UP UNTIL THAT WAS DONE AND CORRECT.
SO I THINK WE NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION REGARDING EACH OF THESE SITES.
THERE MAY BE SOME THAT, YEAH, RICHARD FON MENTIONED THAT, THAT THERE WOULD BE, THAT THE WESTERN LOT IN PARTICULAR,
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UH, IT WOULD NEED TO BE ESSENTIALLY RESURFACED.AND I, I COMPLETELY AGREE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO DO ANY, YOU, WHEN YOU RE AT THE TIME THAT YOU RESURFACE, IF YOU KNOW THAT THE SOLAR PROJECT CANOPY IS COMING, YOU CAN RESURFACE AND PLACE THE FOOTINGS YOU AT THE SAME TIME AT THE SAME TIME.
SO YOU DON'T DISRUPT THE FOOTINGS FOR THE CONDUIT FOR THE ELECTRICAL WORK ALL AT ONCE SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK AND DIG IT UP LATER.
THAT'S THE IDEAL COORDINATION OF TRADES THAT RICHARD, RICHARD AND I TALKED ABOUT.
IN MY PAST LIFE, I ACTUALLY HAD A SOLAR COMPANY FOR 10 YEARS.
SO I'VE SEEN EVERY SIDE OF THIS GOES, YOU KNOW, SO, SO BASICALLY WHAT, WHAT'S, SO DO WE WANNA WORK WITH SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER? AND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE END RESULT OF I, I'D LIKE TO GET RICH'S.
WE NEED TO, WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD DEFINITELY TALK TO RICH AND, AND HAVE A MEETING FIRST AND BEFORE WE, HE COULD GIVE US A BALLPARK AS TO WHETHER OR NOT ANY OF THESE ROOFS OR QUALIFY AND HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST TO BRING THEM, BRING THEM UP TO HAVING A 25 YEAR, A MINIMUM 25 YEAR, DEPENDING ON WHICH PANELS YOU GO WITH.
SO WITH RESPECT TO THAT, AND I I, SOMEBODY ALSO MENTIONED THE PUBLIC WORKS GARAGE IN THE LAST MEETING, SO I WROTE THAT DOWN.
THAT OBVIOUSLY HAS A WHOLE SERIES OF ROOFS.
SOME OF THEM ARE STANDING SEA METAL ROOFS, WHICH ARE USUALLY, UH, HAVE QUITE A LONG LIFE.
THERE'S ANOTHER LONG FLAT, A LOW FLAT ROOF THAT MAY, MAY BE OLDER.
AND IT, IT'S DEPE DEPENDING ON THE AND CONDITION OF A ROOF.
IF THE SOLAR SYSTEM THAT RESULTS IS LARGE ENOUGH, IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE FOR YOUR R F P TO RE TO, TO DECLARE THAT YOU KNOW, THAT DURING A MANDATORY SITE VISIT THAT THEY INSPECT THE ROOF RIGHT.
OR BECOME AWARE OF ITS CONDITION.
AND THAT THEY, THAT THE SOLAR DEVELOPER THAT YOU WOULD WELCOME THE SOLAR DEVELOPERS, UH, AS AN OPTION TO, TO WATERPROOF THE ROOF, UH, AND BUILD THAT INTO THEIR, THEIR, THEIR COST STRUCTURE.
WHAT THAT WILL DO IS IT'LL LOWER THE LEASE PAYMENT YOU WOULD EARN, BUT YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO PUT OUT THE $50,000 TO WATERPROOF THE ROOF, FOR EXAMPLE.
THAT'S EXACTLY HOW THE VILLAGE OF CROTON WENT ABOUT IT WITH, FOR THE COMMUNITY SOLAR PROJECT.
IT PUT DOWN ITS PUBLIC WORKS GARAGE.
IT BOUGHT AN OLD PILL FACTORY THAT HAD A, A STANDING SEA METAL ROOF THAT WAS LEAKING.
AND SO RATHER THAN FIX THE ROOF AND THEN PUT SOLAR, THE, THE R F P SAID, WHOEVER GETS THE SOLAR JOB HAS TO FIX THE ROOF.
SO, AND, AND THEN, UH, THAT, SO THAT'S HOW THAT WENT.
HOW COME THE LIBRARY WAS, I FORGOT WHY THE LIBRARY WASN'T, UH, THE LIBRARY WAS TAKEN OFF THE LIST BECAUSE IT'S GOT, IT'S, IT, THERE'S THE OLD BUILDING AND THEN THE TWO NEWER BUILDINGS AND IT WAS FELT THAT THE LARGER OLDER ROOF NEEDED NEEDED, NEEDED TO WORK.
AND ALSO IT'S QUITE, BUT THEN AGAIN, WE CAN NEGOTIATE THAT.
BUT I, I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS, I THINK, I THINK, UH, GARRETT SUGGESTED I THAT I PUT THAT, TAKE THAT OFF THE LIST FOR NOW.
'CAUSE I'M SORT OF THINKING THAT IF WE'RE GONNA BE DOING, UH, ROOF REPAIRS AT THE LIBRARY, ISN'T THIS SORT OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO PUT SOLAR? WELL, YOU'RE NOT GONNA PUT SOLAR ON THAT.
YOU'RE GONNA PUT SOLAR ON THE OTHER PARTS.
I, I, I, WHEN I LOOKED AT IT, NOT HA NOT HAVING BE ON THE ROOF, I, I, I DID NOT PUT SOLAR ON THE, ON THE NEW WHISKEY SLOPE, WHISKEY SKI SLOPE THAT, UM, BUT NONETHELESS, UH, THE, I GARRETT SUGGESTED, WHY DON'T I JUST TAKE THAT ONE OFF THE LIST FOR NOW.
SO THE, ALL THE OTHER SITES HERE ARE SIMPLY ONES THAT HAVE COME UP WITH OTHER MEETINGS WITH EITHER YOURSELVES RIGHT.
UM, BEFORE THIS POINT, I GUESS A QUESTION, UH, IN TERMS OF THE REASONS WHY YOU WOULDN'T PUT IT ON THE SKI SLOPE, IS THAT FOR AESTHETIC REASONS OR? NO, IT'S JUST HARD.
IT'S, WE, IT'S HARD TO, UM, FASTEN RAILS WHEN YOU HAVE A CONTINUOUSLY CURVING SITE.
UN UNLESS YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE STRUCTURE IS UNDERNEATH AND THE AND THE PANELS AREN'T CURVED.
IT'S, IT'S EASIER IF THE ROOF DOES THIS THAN IF THE ROOF DOES THAT.
SO THE AESTHETIC WOULD BE PRAGMATIC.
I'D BE SURPRISED IF IT WAS, UH, BUILT FOR THE WEIGHT MM-HMM.
MINIMUM IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE ROOF.
THE ROOF LOADS HERE ARE GONNA BE 30 POUNDS PER SQUARE FOOT.
THE SOLAR PANELS THAT ARE ATTACHED ARE GONNA BE TWO TO THREE POUNDS PER SQUARE FOOT.
SO THEY'RE ONLY USING A VERY SMALL PORTION OF YOUR SNOW LOAD TYPICALLY.
UM, BUT, UH, SO THAT'S NOT USUALLY AN ISSUE.
BUT YOU DO HAVE TO HAVE THEM ATTACH SECURELY TO SOMETHING.
YOU CAN'T JUST STAPLE IT TO THE, YOU KNOW, TO THE MEMBRANE.
THEY HAVE TO GO INTO SOMETHING SOLID.
SO, UM, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION.
I CAN CERTAINLY, UH, CLARIFY WHAT WE MEAN BY THE RATES HERE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.
UH, WHAT I JUST MEANT BY THAT IS THAT, THAT THE, THE SIZE OF A PROJECT AND THE, AND, AND THE PARTICULAR KIND OF CUSTOMERS THAT, THAT ARE, THAT ARE WANTING FOR THAT PROJECT USUALLY WILL DRIVE HOW MUCH WORK IT'S GOING TO BE TO RECRUIT THOSE PEOPLE.
SO, AND THE TOWN COULD CERTAINLY STIPULATE THAT IT WOULD HAVE A PREFERENCE IF THE PROJECTS GO TO A COMMUNITY SOLAR ROUTE.
THAT, THAT, THAT LOW TO MODERATE, YOU KNOW, HOUSEHOLDS AND BUSINESSES IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE ZIP CODES IN THE TOWN, ARE A PRIORITY FOR ENROLLMENT.
THAT THAT COULD CERTAINLY BE A STIPULATION IN FACT THAT ING IS JUST DOING THE SAME THING.
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ITS PUBLIC WORKS GARAGE AND IT HAD EXACTLY THE SAME REQUIREMENT.UM, OR AT LEAST IT HAD, IT, IT, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS A PREFERENCE.
SO AT LEAST 50% OF THAT PROJECT WILL BE ENROLLED BY PEOPLE IN, IN THE, THE AUSTIN ZIP CODE ITSELF.
SO IN THIS, WHEN WE ARE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, 'CAUSE FRANKLY SOLAR RIGHT NOW IS A REAL FINGERNAILS ON A CHALKBOARD TO ME.
'CAUSE I SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH ONE OF THESE PEOPLE.
AND IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT THEY SAID COULD BE BUILT, CAN'T BE, CAN'T BE BUILT ONCE IT WENT TO THE ENGINEERS AND THE EFFICIENCY DROPPED DRAMATICALLY.
UM, WHEN WE GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WOULD IT BE THE SITUATION WHERE EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE LARGE SCALE, THAT WHOEVER GETS SELECTED, UM, WOULD BE AT LEAST VETTED AS BEING REPUTABLE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT A HOMEOWNER COULD RELY ON FOR VERY SMALL PROJECTS.
SO, SO THAT, THAT, SO, SO YES.
UH, THAT THE REPUTATION AND THE, THE FINANCIAL STABILITY OF THE FIRMS IS VERY IMPORTANT.
AND THEIR IMMEDIATE TRACK RECORD.
UH, 'CAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT ALL THE LIST OF F FIRMS WHO'VE INSTALLED IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY IN THE LAST 20 YEARS, RIGHT.
IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WAS INSTALLING HERE BEFORE 2018, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH TURNOVER.
BUT WHO'S INSTALLING NOW WHO HAS ADEQUATE CAPITAL RIGHT.
AND HAS, AS IS DOING A GOOD JOB THAT WE CAN GO SEE.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MATTERS TO ME.
UM, AND SO, UM, UH, BUT THOSE FIRMS MAY NOT BE THE SAME FIRMS THAT ARE DOING THE RESIDENTIAL SCALE WORK.
'CAUSE THESE ARE COMMERCIAL SCALE PROJECTS.
SOMETIMES THEY ARE, BUT SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT.
SO I'M, I'M TRYING TO LOOK FOR HOW CAN HOMEOWNERS, BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THESE ARE LARGE SCALE, YOU HAVE ENOUGH HOMEOWNERS THAT WANNA PUT SOLAR ON THEIR, THEY CAN MAKE A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
AND I WAS, I FRANKLY A LITTLE BIT DISAPPOINTED WITH, UM, SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER IN THAT IT DIDN'T PROVIDE THAT KIND OF GUIDANCE FOR THE LOCAL HOMEOWNERS.
UM, AND THEN YOU GET A SITUATION, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M IN LIMBO BECAUSE APPARENTLY WHOEVER COMES TO YOUR DOOR, THEY, THEY LOCK UP THE MARKET AND YOU HAVE TO GO, I'M HAPPY TO ADVISE YOU, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE MEETING, NOT JUST ME, BUT JUST IN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, WE, WE, WE, WE HAVE SOUGHT.
SO THAT, THAT TAKES, I, I'VE BEEN, I'VE DONE THAT FOR ABOUT 150 HOME HOMEOWNERS IN THE PAST YEAR THAT HAVE JUST CONTACTED US OUT OF THE BLUE.
I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE DOING THAT.
WE'VE ASKED FOR SOME FUNDING SO WE CAN SET ASIDE STAFF RESOURCES TO ACTUALLY DO THAT ON A REGULAR BASIS AND HAVE AN ACTUAL PROGRAM.
'CAUSE IT DOES TAKE RESOURCES.
RIGHT? SO YOU DO A RISK ANALYSIS OF ALL OF THE, THE VENDORS THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
LIKE YOU SEE WHAT THEIR RISKS ARE AND, UH, YES.
NOW IF YOU HAVE PARTICULAR THINGS THAT YOU NEED, THAT YOU WANT LOOKED AT WHEN YOU SAY RISK ANALYSIS, WE'RE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT.
BUT, BUT BY AND LARGE, UM, WE ARE, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE WE'RE TRYING TO, WE MAKE AN EFFORT TO GO TO FIRMS THAT WE KNOW ARE, UH, CURRENTLY ACTIVE IN, IN THE AREA.
UH, AND ARE, ARE BIDDING AND THEIR PRICE ACCORDINGLY, UH, IN TERMS OF, UH, AND, AND NO, UH, THAT, THAT THEY HAVE A, THAT THEY USE GOOD MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, UH, SO-CALLED TIER ONE SOLAR MATERIALS THAT COME WITH EXTENSIVE WARRANTIES FROM LARGE MANUFACTURERS THAT'LL BE AROUND TO BACK THEM UP.
AND THAT HAVE, UH, HIGH QUALITY WORKMANSHIP MM-HMM.
THAT, THAT, THAT'S A SORT OF QUALITATIVE JUDGMENT.
BUT I'VE BEEN IN THE BUSINESS LONG ENOUGH THAT I I KNOW WHO'S SORT OF, UH, STICKING AROUND.
SO THAT'S, THOSE ARE MY, 'CAUSE I, I, I AGREE WITH YOU.
YOU, YOU WANT SOMEBODY WHO YOU CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL BACK LATER THAT THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK.
SO THOSE ARE MY, MY, MY, UH, CONCERNS.
SO JUST SO THIS DOESN'T GET LOST IN THE SHUFFLE, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEXT STEPS ON THIS? WE NEED, WE NEED TO TALK, WE NEED TO HAVE THAT INTERNAL MEETING WITH OUR STAFF AND, AND, AND UNDERSTAND.
SO DO WE WANNA LIKE, PUT THIS ON LIKE A TENTATIVE AGENDA, SAY TWO WEEKS FROM NOW OR THREE WEEKS FROM NOW? JUST SO THIS WAY WE DON'T, UH, GET WELL, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE, THE, THE DISCUSSION, FIRST DISCUSSION WITH OUR, WITH THE STAFF FIRST.
I DON'T THINK IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE VERY, IT COULD BE A VERY QUICK DISCUSSION WITH THEM.
I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM PUTTING IT ON NEXT WEEK EVEN.
I'M JUST SAYING IF WE PUT ON AN AGENDA AND WE'RE NOT READY, THEN WE WILL JUST KEEP, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT ON JUST SO WE DON'T FORGET.
BECAUSE WITH THIS TIMELINE HERE, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE WINTER SEASON, YOU KNOW, AND NOT, WELL THIS IS A TENTATIVE TIMELINE, BUT IF IT, IT IS JUST THIS, THIS WOULD BE IF WE WERE, YOU KNOW,
SO, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW WHO'S GOING UP ON A ROOF, YOU KNOW, IN THE WINTER TIME ING WHERE THE SNOW YEAH.
IF IT EXISTS, IF IT EXISTS, WHERE'D IT GO?
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SNOW IN JULY.SO 20 WEEKS IS NOT, 20 WEEKS IS 20.
I SHOULD CLARIFY WHAT THIS IS, IS A TIMELINE TO GET YOU TO A FINAL AGREEMENT TO START THE INTERCONNECTION PROCESS WITH THE UTILITY THAT'S NOT FINISHED PROJECT BUILT IN THE GROUND.
SO YOU'RE SAYING CONED IS NOT BUILT INTO THIS? NO.
IT, IT IS THIS CONNECTION BETWEEN UTILITY 20 IS GIVEN FOR CONED.
SO, SO, SO THE REVIEW WITH CONED STARTS IN WEEK 20.
BASICALLY SAYING WEEK ONE THROUGH 20 IS ALL THE PREPARATORY WORK TO GET READY TO, TO GET, AND, AND YOU REACH A DUE DILIGENCE COMMITMENT.
WHICH IS IN A LETTER OF AGREEMENT THAT THE TOWN WILL, WILL WORK WITH DEVELOPER A OR B FOR, UH, TO, TO, FOR SOME PERIOD OF TIME.
IT MAY BE THAT WE GET ALL THE WAY THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THE, THE SITE TURNS OUT NOT TO BE BUILDABLE, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL AFTER YOU, YOU START TO OPEN THE GROUND UP OR YOU, OR THE UTILITY SAYS IT'S GONNA COST YOU A MILLION DOLLARS TO CONNECT.
I DON'T THINK THOSE WILL BE BARRIERS HERE, BUT, SO THIS WEEK, ONE THROUGH 20 IS JUST GOING THROUGH ALL THE PRELIMINARIES.
UH, TO GET TO A, A LETTER OF, OF, OF AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN AND ONE OR TWO DEVELOPERS.
WHICH MEANS WE'RE IN THE WINTER, RIGHT.
WELL, THIS WAS PROBABLY ALWAYS GONNA BE A 2020 EARLY 2024 PROJECT, BUT, OKAY.
GIVEN THAT, BUT MAYBE WE GET LUCKY.
THE ROOF'S, A ROOF COULD BE DONE FASTER.
AND I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK AT YOUR, AT YOUR CONVENIENCE.
SO, WE'LL, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM LEY? YEAH, IT'S LEY.
DO WE HAVE, ARE THEY HERE? I DON'T, RYAN'S NOT HERE.
UM, THERE'S NOBODY IN THE HALL AND I DON'T KNOW NOBODY IN THE HALL.
SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP, WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO MOVING THIS MEETING ON.
SO FRANK, AND, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT CODE ENFORCEMENT.
IS THERE ANY
OH, HOW DOING EVERYBODY, HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY.
ALL BUT BEFORE WE START AT SHOPRITE, GOING WITH THIS AT SHOPRITE, OH GOSH.
THE STAR OF THE GRAND OPENING WAS, WAS NOT US, BRENT MO.
THE, IT WAS ALL ABOUT FRANK WHO KEPT PUSHING THEM TO GET THEIR T C O THAT'S RIGHT.
AND DO EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO TO GET THE T C O MM-HMM.
AND HE GOT TWO, I WOULD SAY STANDING OVATIONS, BUT EVERYBODY WAS ALWAYS STANDING.
THE BIGGEST TWO ROUNDS OF APPLAUSE FROM THE, UH, C E O AND THE, UM, THE CORPORATE, UH, PEOPLE AND, UH, SHOPRITE, UM, TALKING ABOUT HOW YOU KEPT PUSHING THEM AND PUSHING THEM SO THAT IT COULD OPEN ON TIME AND MAKING SURE THEY WERE IN COMPLIANCE.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS VERY GOOD TO HEAR.
I WORK, I'M WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND THE LIGHTING CONCERNS AND THE NOISE CONCERNS STILL.
UM, ALSO I'M WORKING SUPERMARKETS.
I'M ALSO WORKING WITH THE, UH, D P W ON ADDRESSING SOME STREETLIGHT ISSUES ON, UH, OLD COLONY, UH, OLD COUNTRY ROAD THAT ARE ALSO PART OF THAT COMPLAINT.
AND I'M WORKING WITH RICH ALONG WITH THAT TO GET CHILDREN.
IS THERE A TIME, IS THERE A TIMELINE FOR THAT? WELL, HE'S SAYING BY TOMORROW WE'RE GONNA HAVE 'EM UP.
UM, THE BIG ONE IS, UH, GREASE TRAPS RIGHT NOW.
THIS
CAN YOU STICK YOUR SHOP RIGHT FOR A SECOND? OKAY.
HOW ABOUT THE FENCING? THAT'S ALL PART OF THE, UH, YOU ABOUT THE FENCING ALONGSIDE THE OLD COUNTRY ROAD.
SO THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CONDITIONS THAT THEY, THAT'S ON THE T C O AS WELL, THAT THEY HAVE TO FINISH THAT FENCING AS AGREED UPON.
DO YOU HAVE A TIMELINE FOR THAT? I WANNA SAY IT WAS MAY 15TH.
AND THE PLANTINGS ARE WHEN? MAY 15TH.
SO THAT ALL WORKS WITH THE T C O.
I WON'T GO PAST THE T C UNLESS IT'S COMPLETE, I PROMISE.
'CAUSE YOU TO TALK LOANS AND, AND YOU KNOW, WE SPOKE ABOUT A PARTICULAR STREETLIGHT THAT NEEDS TO HAVE SOME SHIELDING ON IT.
AND YOU'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S THE ONE THAT'S GETTING ADDRESSED.
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ALRIGHT, NOW GREASE TRAPS IN GENERAL.DID YOU EXPLAIN WHAT A GREASE TRAP IS? OKAY.
THE GREASE TRAP IS A COLLECTOR FROM THE MATERIALS THAT GO FROM THEIR SINK WASHING MATERIALS INTO OUR SYSTEM.
IT COLLECTS IT AT THEIR LEVEL.
SO PLACES THAT HAVE FOOD AND THEY FRY IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
RESTAURANTS, RESTAURANTS, DELIS, PIZZAS, UM, CHINESE FOOD PLACES.
UH, ANY SERVICE, ANY FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS HAVE PRE ESTABLISHMENT.
SO IT COMES IN AND A LARGE TANK IS FED FROM, IT COMES FROM THE MATERIAL, GO THROUGH THE SINK, COLLECTED INTO A LARGE TANK.
IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE MAINTAINED AND CLEANED BY THE PROPERTY OR BY THE RESTAURANT OWNERS, DELI OWNERS OR WHATEVER.
AS FAR AS FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS.
THE COUNTY USED TO DO THE ENFORCEMENT ON THAT ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
THEY GAVE IT ALL UP, TURNED IT OVER TO THE TOWN IN THE, UH, STATE CODE.
SO NOW IT'S GONNA BE LAW ENFORCEMENT USING AN EXAMPLE DOWN ON UH, CENTRAL AVENUE.
UM, 2 85 NORTH CENTRAL AVENUE, WHICH IS THE BEST BUY PROPERTY ALONGSIDE DELWOOD.
THE TOWN HAS A TREMENDOUS PROBLEM FOR OVER 15 YEARS.
ALMOST EVERY DAY THEY'RE OUT THERE CLEANING OUR SEWER SYSTEM UP.
I THINK YOU, THEY, THEY, THEY BEING, THEY MEANING TOWN STAFF, THE TOWN STAFF AS FAR AS THE WATER SHOP IS CONCERNED AS THEY OKAY.
UM, GOING OUT THERE ALMOST DAILY TO PUSH THE MATERIAL DOWNSTREAM BECAUSE IT'S CLOGGING UP THE SEWERS.
I THINK THAT SOMEBODY HAD MADE A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE SEWAGE COMING UP THROUGH THE SIDEWALK, THROUGH THE MANHOLE.
AND ONE TIME I WAS SENT OUT THERE AT NIGHT, THAT'S THE SAME AREA.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER THAT.
IT WAS A BOARD MEETING NIGHT THAT WAS SENT OUT THERE FOR A COMPLAINT.
WE HAD SHUT A RESTAURANT DOWN THAT WAS IN VIOLATION OF ANY OF THE CODES FOR THE BYPASSING OF THE SEWER TRAP, WHICH IS A GREASE TRAP.
SO SOMEBODY INTENTIONALLY BYPASSED THE GREASE TRAP FOR NO MAINTENANCE.
WE WOULDN'T, WOULDN'T HAVE TO PAY TO HAVE IT DISCARDED.
AND OUR STAFF IS GOING OUT ALMOST DAILY BECAUSE OF THEM BYPASSING THE GREASE DROP.
WHICH THEY GETTING SUMMONS FROM.
SO THEY GET A SUMMON EACH TIME, EACH TIME THE TOWN GOES OUT.
WELL THEY GOT A SUMMONS AND WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING OUT WITH THE WATER SHOP AS FAR AS THE OVERTIME.
TRY TO CALCULATE A DOLLAR FIGURE ON THE FINE.
THERE'S AND IS IT A FIXED PENALTY? IS THIS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? IS THERE CUMULATIVE PENALTY? IF THEY DON'T FIX IT BY EX, THE RESTAURANT GOT SHUT DOWN.
SO THEY'RE SHUT DOWN IN ORDER TO, SO THE PENALTY IS GONNA BE ADDRESSED.
GOT, THEY'RE GONNA GET ORDERED TO MAKE THE REPAIRS OF THE, THE SYSTEM AND THEN GET REOPENED.
AND WHERE IS THE PROPERTY OWNER IN THIS? IT UH, I'M SORRY.
WHERE IS THE PROPERTY OWNER IN THIS? WHO ABOUT THE SUMMONS? THE, UH, PROPERTY OWNER AND THE TENANT.
AND THE PROPERTY OWNER UNDERSTANDS THE, THE SERIOUSNESS OF THIS.
THE PROPERTY OWNER WAS ON SITE WHEN WE SHUT THE RESTAURANT DOWN, WE CAN'T AFFORD TO HAVE OUR STAFF GOING THERE EVERY DAY AND NOT DOING THE OTHER WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN THE TOWN.
SO, UH, TOMORROW THE TWO PLUMBING INSPECTORS ARE GONNA BE GOING OUT ON BOTH SIDES OF THAT TRAP TO MAKE SURE ALL THE OTHER RESTAURANTS ARE IN COMPLIANCE.
SO THAT'S, THAT WOULD TAKE CARE OF THAT.
AND SINCE WE HAD SHUT THIS ONE RESTAURANT DOWN, WE'VE HAD NO MORE PROBLEMS SO FAR.
BUT I WANTED TO CHECK ALL THE ESTABLISHMENT 'CAUSE THERE'S NINE FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS.
BUT IF WE'RE SHUTTING ONE DOWN AND NOT HAVING A PROBLEM, THE OTHER ONE SHOULD BE HAVING THE COLLECTORS.
WE, WE, WE DO A LOT OF THINGS AT WORK SESSION, BUT I THINK WHEN WE HAVE A PROPERTY THAT IS THIS ABUSIVE OF THE SYSTEM AND THEY'RE PURPOSELY BYPASSING SYSTEMS THAT ARE DESIGNED TO KEEP OUR, OUR DRAINS OPEN AND USING A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TOWN RESOURCES MEANS TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, YES, THEY MIGHT HAVE TO SHOW UP AT COURT, BUT I'D LIKE TO INVITE THEM, INVITE THEM HERE TO EXPLAIN WHAT ARE THEY GONNA DO TO MAKE SURE THAT TENANTS DON'T DO THIS.
WE, WE CAN MAKE THAT REQUEST PARTICULARLY ON SOMETHING THIS BLATANT.
YEAH, THIS WAS PRETTY THEY TO RE-PIPE IT TO GET AROUND.
I MEAN THEY WERE TAKING ROCKS OF MATERIAL OF GREASE OUT OF OUR SYSTEM.
IT'S PRESSURIZING AND COMING UP ONTO THE SIDEWALK.
HOW ABOUT O COLONY? O COLONY ROAD? WE'VE BEEN OUT THERE DAILY MONITORING THE PROGRESS OF THE PROJECT.
UM, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY OF THE COMPLAINTS FOR THE VEHICLES LATELY.
SO THE TRAFFIC, THE TRAFFIC IS FLOWING, THE TRAFFIC, THE POLICE ARE OUT THERE, THE TRAFFIC SERGEANT'S AWARE OF IT.
I'VE HAD AN INSPECTOR ON THE SITE EVERY DAY TO MAKE SURE NOTHING IS GETTING DELAYED AS FAR AS, UM, ON THE PROJECT TO STOP THE MATERIAL OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE SOMETHING'S BEING TIED UP WHERE THE MATERIAL'S GETTING STOPPED IN THE ROAD AND THEY'RE NOT READY.
THAT'S BEEN ONGOING AND CON THE CONTRACTOR HAS BEEN REALLY TRYING TO WORK WITH THE TOWN.
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DAY ALSO.YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THAT.
WE'VE BEEN MONITORING THAT DAILY ON THAT PROJECT.
UM, CON ED, THEY PLAYING NICELY.
THE PIPELINE WHERE YOU GO THROUGH THE PIPELINE, THE DRIVE.
I'M SURPRISED THE TRUCK COULD EVEN GET, GET UP THAT HOLE.
HE'S BEEN USING PIPELINE TO COME UP BECAUSE HE DESIGNED A ROAD ON SITE TO GET OFF PHYSICAL COUNTY.
SO IT SHOULD SIZE SOME OF THE TROUBLES DOWN.
WHAT ABOUT, UH, OLD ARMY ROAD WITH THE NEED FOR FLAGGERS.
I WAS OUT THERE TODAY WITH THE TRAFFIC, UH, PATROL AND UH, AT ONE 70 OLD ARMY ROAD.
THAT'S GOING TO BE A BIT OF A NUISANCE IF THEY DON'T PAY ATTENTION.
'CAUSE THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY TO GET EQUIPMENT, MATERIALS, OR ANYTHING ONTO THAT SITE WITHOUT BLOCKING ROAD.
IT'S A, IT'S A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
IT'S A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
IS THAT SORT OF NEAR MOUNT? IT'S ON, IT'S RIGHT.
IT'S UP ACTUALLY ACROSS, IT'S ONE 70.
I DON'T KNOW HOW TO IT'S NARROW.
IT'S A NARROW, IT'S VERY NARROW THERE.
IT'S, IT'S AN IMPROVED DEVELOPMENT.
BUT THE ONLY WAY TO CONSTRUCT, 'CAUSE THERE'S NO PLACE ON SITE REALLY IS TO BLOCK THE ROAD.
AND, AND WORK OFF OF A HILL THERE TOO.
SO THEY'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE, UH, POLICE IN COORDINATION WITH HIRING THEM TO MAKE TRAFFIC FLOW CONVENIENT.
AND THERE IS GONNA BE A SHUTDOWN OF THE PROJECT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY FOR THE SCHOOL, SUCH AS SCHOOL TIME.
WE EXPERIENCED THAT ON THE OLD, ON ON OLD COLONY.
UM, THAT'S FOR THAT THE 22 HAWK.
YOU GUYS GOT AN EMAIL FROM ME ABOUT THE UNSTABLE CONDITIONS OUT THERE AS FAR AS THE UNSAFE STRUCTURE.
IT'S NOT WELL THAT'S THE THING THAT, THAT I CALLED YOU.
SO I'VE TAKEN PICTURE, I THINK I SENT THEM AROUND.
IF ANYBODY WANTS TO GET FAMILIAR WITH IT, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT.
WE SHOULD HAVE A MEETING ALSO WITH, UH, MY DEPUTY TAGLIA TO GO OVER THE FINAL STEPS TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE.
AND PROB I KNOW WE'RE ON THE RIGHT TRACK SO FAR, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE MAINTAIN ON THAT TRACK AND ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S PRETTY UNSAFE.
SO, UH, UM, JOE, I DON'T KNOW IF IN THE INTERIM, WITHOUT GOING INTO THE DEMOLITION PROCEDURE, IF WE COULD HAVE STAFF PUT SOME TYPE OF SAFETY FENCING AROUND IT.
UM, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING AN ISSUE.
I'LL TALK TO, TO RICH EVEN, YOU KNOW, INEXPENSIVE.
JUST SOMETHING TO PROTECT THE SITE.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, ANY, YOU KNOW, A CHILD CAN WALK IN AND FALL INTO THE, INTO THE PIT.
AND OUR WATER METERS ON THAT LOCATION TOO.
IT'S BROKEN APART FROM THE FROST.
OH, REALLY? SO IT'S AN DAMAGED TOWN PROPERTY ALSO.
CAN YOU TAKE, CAN, CAN WATER BE NO WATER'S SHUT OFF.
BUT IT, YOU KNOW, THE METER WAS THERE, THERE WAS A HOUSE THERE.
THEY MUST HAVE DEMOL PRIOR TO ME.
THEY MUST HAVE DEMOLISHED THE HOUSE.
AND THEY LEFT THE WATER MAIN EXPOSED.
AND THE, THE METER IS SOFTER THAN THE PIPE.
SO THE METER USUALLY BREAKS, BREAKS THAT WATER.
SO THERE MUST'VE BEEN A LEAK THERE.
IT MUST'VE SHUT THE WATER OFF.
IT COULDN'T GET INTO THE, YOU KNOW, METER PIT BECAUSE OF THE WATER.
AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE METERS ON THAT LOCATION TO THE PICTURE, ARE THERE OUTSTANDING TAXES ON THIS PROPERTY? THAT, I DUNNO, BECAUSE ALL OF THIS IS GONNA BE A LIEN ON THE PROPERTY.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE OUTSTANDING TAXES AND WE WILL DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
SO THE, THE, THERE'S NO WAY OF SALVAGING THE HOUSE.
THERE'S SO IT HAS TO BE, THERE HAS TO BE.
IT HAS TO BE, UH, IT WAS A RHETORICAL QUESTION.
SO WE JUST, WE NEED TO, THERE'S A PROCESS FOR TAKING A HOUSE DOWN.
AND SO WE JUST HAVE TO I'M SURE JOE'S ON TOP OF IT.
AND, AND THE HOUSE HAS BEEN, AS YOU SAID, IN ESTATE OF DISREPAIR AND UNSAFE SINCE 2020.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A, THAT'S WHEN YOU EVEN FIRST PUT THEM ON NOTICE.
I'M SURE THE NEIGHBORS WILL APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT IT'S, IT'S GETTING ADDRESSED.
BUT SOME, AND THIS HAS BEEN GETTING ADDRESSED, BUT THERE'S A PROCESS WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH.
WE JUST CAN'T GO AND KNOCK IT DOWN.
UM, THE DALE GREENHOUSES, UM, WE WORK WITH THE TOWN WITH THE, UH, SUBMITTING THE APPLICATION TO THE ZONING BOARD.
THEY ARE GONNA BE APPLYING TO THE ZONING BOARD FOR THE USE VARIANCES ON THAT.
DO WE KNOW WHEN THAT'S GONNA BE? I'M SORRY? DO WE KNOW WHEN THEY'RE GONNA FILE? I, I SPOKE WITH THE ATTORNEY OF RECORD, UM, AND SHE ANTICIPATES THE APPLICATION BEING SUBMITTED WITHIN THE NEXT THREE WEEKS.
SO THIS IS A USE VARIANCE IN ORDER TO, UM, TO SELL FIREWOOD
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AND YES.INSTEAD OF PLANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO ALLOW THEM TO DO WHAT THEY'RE DOING ALREADY.
BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED UNDER THE OTHER FLOOR TO, WE CAN'T INFLUENCE THIS ON BOARD ADVOCATE OR WHATEVER.
WE'RE NOT ADVOCATE WHAT MM-HMM.
UM, AND THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD ARE GONNA GET NOTICED BECAUSE IT'S WITHIN 250 FEET.
DO YOU THINK THAT, WHAT, WHAT DID YOU DO AFTER 12 O'CLOCK
IT STRETCHES ACROSS ONE WHOLE ROAD.
I THINK WHEN YOU DO THE RADIUS FROM THE PROPERTY LINES, IT'LL GO INTO A LOT OF DIFFERENT, IT'LL, I ALWAYS LIKE TO FOLLOW WHATEVER THE PROCESS IS AND, AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALWAYS A GOOD THING TO FOLLOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
IF IT'S 250 FEET, IT'S 250 FEET AND THE PEOPLE IN THAT 250 FEET CAN NOTIFY OTHER PEOPLE.
IF THEY WANT TO BE NEIGHBORLY
IT HAS BEEN A TERRIBLE SMOKE CONDITION, QUITE, QUITE FRANKLY.
I'VE SEEN PICTURES OF, WE'VE ALL SEEN VIDEO OF IT AND, UH, IT JUST GOES RIGHT TO THE HOUSES ON JENNIFER AND IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT GREAT, PARTICULARLY IF YOU HAVE YOUNG KIDS INSIDE THE HOUSE.
AND THE LAST ONE IS ON SUNDAY AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING AT 10, HUNTER, WE SHUT A JOB DOWN.
THEY WERE FILLING IN LARGE AMOUNTS OF FILL DIRTY MATERIALS ON TOP OF TOWN RIGHT OF WAYS.
ON FRONT OF ON NINE, ROUTE NINE A AND HUNTER, WHICH IS BY WEST'S.
THEY WERE IN FILLING THAT WHOLE CLIFF, WHICH IS ABOUT 25 FEET OF FILL AND HEIGHT.
FILLS ON SUNDAY MORNING AT NINE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
WELL, EVERYONE WAS BUSY GIVING YOU INFORMATION, GIVING A THING.
DO WE KNOW WHERE THAT FILL CAME FROM? NO, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
SO THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO REMOVE OF IT AND THEN GET TESTING OF THE SOILS ON PROPERTY.
AND IT DUMPED UNDER TOWN RIGHT AWAY.
SO FOR THESE PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THEY CAN DO THIS, YOU KNOW, WITH IMPUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NEW SHERIFF IN TOWN.
I WAS, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY THAT.
IT'S A NEW SHERIFF, YOU KNOW, FINALLY WE GOT, YOU KNOW, NIGHTS AND THE WEEKENDS.
IT'S NOT GONNA WORK FOR THE NIGHT.
NOT SO WELL
SO HE, HE, HE DOESN'T TAKE ANY TIME OFF EVERYONE.
COULD YOU JUST GIVE US AN EL UH, ELMWOOD? OH, OKAY.
SO ELMWOOD ROSE OUT THERE TODAY WE'RE WORKING WITH THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WORKING WITH THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY SOLID WASTE, WORKING WITH THE NEW YORK STATE, D E C, WORKING WITH THE CONTRACTOR, UM, THERE TO REMOVE ALL THE SOILS THAT WERE KNOCKED DOWN OF THE PROPERTY AND BROUGHT IN FROM OTHER PROPERTIES TO BE REMOVED.
WELL, NOT JUST SOILS, BRICK SOILS, BRICK DEMO BRICKS, CONSTRUCTION, DEMO, DEMOLITION MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, SO IF PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S THE, THE SITE ON DO FERRY ROAD, WHICH WAS A GOLF COURSE.
AND SINCE IT GOT ITS APPROVALS, IT'S BEEN ACCEPTING FILLS FROM OTHER JOBS AND SOME OF IT INCLUDES RED BRICK AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UH, WHICH IS, WHICH HAS BEEN DEEMED NOT TO BE ACCEPTABLE.
AND SO IT HAS TO COME BACK OFF AGAIN.
SO THEY'RE OUT THERE NOW WORKING.
SO IF YOU SEE PEOPLE THAT THE WASTE COMMISSIONERS GAVE THEM FIVE DAYS TO REMOVE ALL THE SOILS THAT ARE GONNA BE SOLID WASTE WASTE COMMISSION.
OR THEY'RE GONNA BE REMOVING THEIR LICENSE FROM A VERY LARGE COMPANY.
SO IS THERE ANY OUTSIDE OF, OUTSIDE OF NOTIFICATION THAT WE'RE DOING AT THIS MEETING, IS THERE ANY OTHER NOTIFICATION THAT NEIGHBORS CAN SEE IF THEY'RE MISSING THIS NOTICE SO THEY COULD KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT AREA? I'M SURE.
UM, YOU MEAN THERE'S NOT, IS THERE LIKE A SIGN OR ANYTHING? YOU KNOW, JUST, I MEAN JUST SOMETHING.
BECAUSE IF SOMEONE THIS MEETING, THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GOING ON SINCE YOU SEE DIFFERENT OFFICIALS ON SITE.
WE CAN WORK WITH JAY WEBSITE JASON AND PUT SOMETHING UP ON THE WEBSITE I THINK.
I THINK WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT YEAH, I DID TALK TO HIM ABOUT SECURING THE SITE 'CAUSE IT'S NOT SECURED AT NIGHTTIME.
WHAT I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN IS MATERIAL COMING ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT.
THEN IT WOULD BE, YEAH, IT WOULD BE CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU WOULD THINK IT'S COMING OFF.
SO I TOLD, I ASKED THE CONTRACTOR TO SECURE THE PROPERTY IN ALL THE DRIVEWAY ENTRANCES.
SO YOU CAN'T ENTER ONTO IT WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN OPERATIONS.
YOU KNOW, I HAD A THOUGHT JUST A SECOND AGO, UM, IN TERMS OF THE NOTIFICATION, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE 250, UH, FOOT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOTIFICATION.
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IF THERE'S LIKE A MAJOR, YOU KNOW, PROJECT, WOULD IT EVER MAKE SENSE TO USE A DIGITAL SIGN BOARD, UM, AND BASICALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, ZONING BOARD MEETING OR TOWN BOARD MEETING, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEN EVERYBODY WOULD SAY IT AND THEN NOBODY, I MEAN IT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE MUCH, MUCH LARGER.IT COULD BE FOR ANY, YOU KNOW, ANY, ANY MAJOR PROJECT.
I KNOW THE SIGNBOARD, THE POLICE AND DPW THAT'S, I'M SAYING THAT ACTUALLY IS ON OLD COUNTRY ROAD NOW.
THAT WHOLE COUNTRY ROAD, THAT SIGN IS RIGHT NOW IS UP THERE.
SO IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
BUT I MEAN, I'M SAYING IF THERE'S AN APPLICATION LIKE THAT, THAT HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, IF, IF, UM, IT'S A, YOU KNOW, TOWN BOARD OR PLANNING BOARD TO REVIEW, UM, APPLICATION FOR, UH, FOUR HOMES AT THIS LOCATION THURSDAY.
I WAS SAYING WE DON'T DO THAT ALREADY.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT OH, DIGITAL.
HOW MANY DIGITAL BOARD SITE IS, YOU KNOW, THE SUBJECTIVE TIER OR WHATEVER.
THAT'S WHY I CAN'T COUNTRY FOR DIRECTING TRAFFIC.
JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE WE WOULDN'T BE USING IT FOR EVERYTHING.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE'S SOME OF PROJECTS
UM, AND IT'S NOT JUST NOTIFYING PEOPLE BY MAIL OR WHATEVER.
IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE, WELL THAT WAS PLANNING BOARD AS WELL.
AND THAT'S 500 FEET ZONING BOARD.
BUT I WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE ZONING BOARD GENERALLY HAS EIGHT TO 10 CASES.
WE DON'T HAVE EIGHT TO 10 SIGN BOARDS.
SO WE WOULD THEN BE DETERMINING, HEY, THIS ONE, THIS ONE IS MORE.
I JUST DON'T WANNA GIVE A MESSAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THIS WATCH OUT FOR THIS PROJECT.
BECAUSE WE GOT THIS BIG THING LIKE INSTEAD OF TELLING YOU TO SLOW DOWN, WE'RE NOW TELLING YOU THERE'S GONNA BE A A C B A.
WELL WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE CRITERIA WE COULD CRITERIA LIKE, YOU KNOW, USING THE COMMERCIAL TRAFFIC COMING DOWN OLD COUNTRY ROAD, IT'S WORKING.
'CAUSE THEY'RE ACTUALLY MAKING THE TURN INTO EXECUTIVE TURNING AROUND AND THEN GOING BACK OUT THE OPPOSITE WAY.
SO THAT KIND OF A SYSTEM IT WORKS FOR, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ELMWOOD WHERE YOU WOULD EVEN PUT IT.
BUT MEAN, 'CAUSE THE TREES ARE OVERGROWN ALMOST OUT INTO THE ROADWAY.
THAT'S SO YOU'D BE PUTTING A SIGNAGE KIND OF CLOSE TO THE ROAD.
BUT WE SHOULDN'T WELL WE SHOULD MAKE SURE AT LEAST THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENED, WHAT'S ON'S GOING ON.
I ALSO TALKED ABOUT DUST ON THAT PROPERTY.
SO I TOLD THEM THE PROCESSING OF THAT DUST OF THAT MATERIAL IS NOT TO HAPPEN.
AND, AND JUST BETWEEN US, 'CAUSE NOBODY'S LISTENING.
HOW'S THE DEPUTY WORKING OUT?
THE DEPUTY OF THE, I CAN'T EVEN GET IT OUT.
BUILDING DEPARTMENT DEPUTY INSPECTOR.
WHERE'S YOUR BADGE? YOU NEED, YOU, YOU NEED ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT HE HAD.
YOU NEED ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THE BUILDING INSPECTOR HAS YOU, YOU KNOW, A CROWN.
WE'RE PROUD OF YOU FOR MONDAY AND TUESDAY.
EXACTLY THEM NOW YOU HAVE ANOTHER FIVE HOURS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE EMAILS WHEN THIS MEETING IS OVER IS WHY DIDN'T YOU JUST DISCUSS THIS PROJECT, THIS PROSPER.
IT'S, I THINK THIS IS REALLY EXCELLENT, YOU KNOW, GIVING US EVERY WEEK I CAN, THIS WAS REALLY TERRIFIC.
IF I SEE CODE ENFORCEMENT AND I'M ON THE AGENDA, I'LL BRING UPDATES.
AND I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR, UH, BEING SO RESPONSIVE.
YOU BASICALLY HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I COMPLAIN USUALLY, UH, LIKE THERE'S A RESPONSE IN ABOUT A MINUTE OR SO OR LESS.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, VERY IMPRESSIVE.
I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T RESIST.
NO, I, I REALLY WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY VERY, UH, VERY IMPRESSED WITH HOW RESPONSIVE HE IS AND YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THE QUALITY OF THE WORK.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER HEARD ANYBODY APPLAUD A BUILDING INSPECTOR
AND THERE WAS, THEY'RE WONDERFUL CONCERNED ABOUT THE COMPRESSOR FOR THEIR, UH, RECYCLABLES THAT WAS INITIALLY OUTSIDE, BUT IT WAS ONLY TEMPORARY.
SO, YOU KNOW, DURING, ON SUNDAY, HE SHOWED ME HOW IT WAS BROUGHT BACK INSIDE AND IT DOES MAKE THE NOISE,
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BUT NOW IT'S INSIDE AND ENCLOSED SPACE.AND UH, APPARENTLY WHAT WE SAW IS NOT THE FULL STORE.
THEY HAD PUT UP A WALL OF PRODUCT INSIDE HIDING THE ENTRANCEWAY TO ANOTHER 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S, UM, THAT'S, I FORGET WHAT IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR, BUT IT'S, IT HASN'T BEEN, UM, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE, UM, BUILDING PERMITS FOR THAT SPACE YET.
BUT WHEN SHOPRITE COMPLIMENTED HIM, YOU KNOW, USUALLY LIKE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS COMPLIMENT A BUILDING INSPECTOR.
BUT FRANK BASICALLY, UM, RESPONDED TO CONSTITUENT COMPLAINTS AND PROBLEM SOLVE, YOU KNOW, THE COMPLAINTS.
SO IT'S NOT THAT HE'S JUST SAID, GREAT, YOU'RE, WE'RE GIVING YOU WHATEVER YOU WANT.
HE BASICALLY, UH, WAS TRYING TO HELP RESIDENTS WITH QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY PROBABLY WERE CURSING HIM, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, DURING THE, THE PROCESS FOR I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE NO, I'M, THE SHOPRIGHT WAS PROBABLY UPSET BECAUSE HE MADE THEM, UH, MAKE CHANGES THAT ARE ACTUALLY IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE RESIDENTS MM-HMM.
THIS IS, THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO, UH, THE DISCUSSION WE HAD, I THINK LAST WEEK, UM, WITH THE, THAT SCARSDALE COMPLEX THAT WHERE THE DEVELOPER BASE, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS CHARGING.
SO THE TOWN, WE, WE ARE IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THE MATTER AND WE NEED TO REACH OUT TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY OF THAT COMPLEX BECAUSE WE'VE MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT THE TOWN ACTUALLY OWNS THE LAND.
THE DEAL IS OWNED AND, AND WE SHOULD HAVE AN AGREEMENT IN PLACE WITH, WITH THE OWNERS AS TO, UM, EITHER EITHER SELLING THEM THE LAND OR HAVING SOME SORT OF LEASE WITH THE LAND.
SO WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF PUTTING SOMETHING TOGETHER.
BUT THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS, MY, MY CONCERN WAS THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO'S VERY DISABLED AND HIS, UH, HIS HEALTH IS DETERIORATING AND, UM, THEY WON'T GIVE HIM A, A DISABLED PARKING SPOT AND A REAL, YOU KNOW, TO ME, YOU KNOW, FOR HIM IT'S LIKE A REALLY BIG ISSUE.
AND I AM SORT OF WONDERING, YOU KNOW, IF THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS MAKING MONEY OFF OF PROPERTY THAT THE TOWN OWNS, WHICH I DON'T THINK IS, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK TO YOUR CREDIT, YOU, YOU DISCLOSED THAT AND, AND FIGURED THAT OUT.
I, I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, TO ME, AT THE MINIMUM THE PARKING SPOT SHOULD BE THIS, THERE SHOULD BE A PARKING SPOT RESERVED FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S DISABLED.
I KNOW, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE A STEP BACK BECAUSE IT'S NOT THEIR SPOT TO GIVE.
SO I DON'T WANT THE TOWN TO SAY, YOU NEED TO GIVE THIS PERSON A SPOT BECAUSE THEN THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY STATING WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU ARE CHARGING PEOPLE MONEY MM-HMM.
YOU, YOU HAVE A SPOT FOR HANDICAPPED, UH, PERMITS, BUT NOT FOR A SPECIFIC INDIVIDUAL AS WELL.
SO, SO WE'RE DOING THAT REVIEW.
WHAT WELL, WHAT HE IS LOOKING FOR IS NOT A HANDICAPPED SPOT.
HE'S LOOKING FOR A RESERVE SPOT FOR HIMSELF SO THAT IF SOMEBODY ELSE IS HANDICAPPED, ANYBODY CAN TAKE THE HANDICAPPED SPOT.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE COULD DO THAT ON TOWN PROPERTY AND BASICALLY DISCRIMINATE AGAINST OTHER PEOPLE WHO MAY BE DISABLED.
THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS A COMPLICATED ISSUE.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE IS SHOULD WE BE, UH, TO ME, YOU KNOW, IT'S TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR A COMMERCIAL, UH, YOU KNOW, MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO BE MAKING MONEY OFF OF PARKING ON TOWN LAND.
SO, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO, THAT'S, WE'RE WORKING ON WHAT I'M SAYING.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE LIKE A SHERIFF GREENBERG, HOW ABOUT THAT? IS THERE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE LIKE IMMEDIATELY WHERE WE COULD JUST NOTIFY THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY? I THINK, I THINK YOU SHOULD LET, I THINK YOU SHOULD LET THE TOWN ATTORNEY DEAL DEAL WITH WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO.
I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM FIRST BEFORE UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.
BUT WE NEED TO ALLOW HIM TO DO WHAT HE NEEDS TO DO FIRST.
BUT UNLIKE IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA GET FOLLOWED UP.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T ALLOW THAT.
AND, AND WE'RE LOOKING IF THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT HAVE THE SAME ISSUE
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TO NOT ONLY CORRECT IT HERE, ONE RIGHT HERE.I, I KNOW THAT ONE AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING IF THERE ARE ANY OTHERS AS WELL TO CORRECT ALL THE ISSUES AT ONCE.
NO, THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF GREAT.
THE NEXT SCREE LIMIT, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO, UH, I REMEMBER CHUCK LESNIK SHOWED UP, REMEMBER EVERY WEEK RIGHT.
SO I'M JUST BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, FOLLOWING UP ON THAT AND SEEING IF THE BOARD WOULD WANT OR OFFER IT.
WELL, WHAT CHUCK WAS ABLE TO DO FOR US BACK THEN WAS TO GIVE US, UM, WHAT THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE DOING, WHAT THEIR DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE.
EXCEPT FOR YONKERS, ANYONE THAT INCREASED IT TO 50,000, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY PEOPLE THAT ARE ELIGIBLE.
SO IT WAS MEANINGLESS FOR THEM TO RAISE IT FROM 40 TO 50.
UH, WE DID RAISE IT FROM 29,000 TO 40,000.
BUT I THINK WE NEED SOME INFORMATION.
ONE IS, WILL ANYBODY BE ELIGIBLE? RIGHT.
IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KNOW THAT, UM, AND WHAT THE COST IS.
BECAUSE WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT OBJECTING TO IT.
WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE IS THAT IF SOMEBODY IS OF A CERTAIN INCOME IN THIS CASE, UH, UNDER $40,000, OR IF WE RAISE IT UNDER $50,000 HOUSEHOLD INCOME AND IS NAMED ON A LEASE OF A RENT STABILIZED, UM, APARTMENT, UH, THERE'S SOME OTHER FACTORS IN THERE AS WELL MM-HMM.
AND SO WHAT CHUCK DID FOR US WAS TO TELL US HOW MANY PEOPLE COULD POSSIBLY QUAL QUALIFY.
I ASSUME THERE'S A REPLACEMENT FOR CHUCK SOMEWHERE, EVEN THOUGH HE'S, CHUCK MIGHT KNOW.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY HE IS NOT VERY, VERY REPLACEABLE BECAUSE HE'S RELENTLESS.
AND I DID GO BACK AND CHECK AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I HAD WRITTEN TO THE CLERK AND SAID, THIS SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
WE SAID WE WERE GONNA DO THE NEXT WEEK, NEXT YEAR HERE.
BY THE WAY, I DON'T KNOW, THIS IS THREE WEEKS NOW IN A ROW OR FOUR WEEKS.
UM, BUT BE THAT AS IT MAY, UH, I HAD ASKED THE CLERK TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, UH, WORK SESSION AGENDA AND IT NEVER MADE IT TO THE AGENDA.
DIANA NER SUGGESTED IT AS WELL, BUT AT THE END OF THE YEAR HE, CHUCK CAME BACK TO US AND UH, THE REASON WHY WE DIDN'T GO TO 50 IS WE DIDN'T HAVE THE NUMBERS FOR IT.
AND ALSO, UH, EDGEMONT WAS TALKING ABOUT INCORPORATING AND UH, PAUL SAID, LET, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO DO THIS.
AND SO, UM, SO ALL OF THESE THINGS WE SHOULD JUST TAKE A LOOK AT.
SO WE JUST NEED SOME MORE DATA.
UH, THE SCHEDULING OF THE FARMER'S MARKET, WE WAITING FOR THE INSURANCE.
UM, WELL WE, WE HAVEN'T BEGUN DISCUSSIONS YET ON THE CONTRACT FOR THIS YEAR OR, OR INSURANCE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS WAS DEFINITELY HAPPENING AND IF I SHOULD PROCEED.
IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S VIABLE.
TO SHUT THE STREET DOWN FOR I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO ACTUALLY GO ON 9,900 PROPERTY.
I DIDN'T REALIZE ONLY THE PARKING LOT WAS GOING TO BE USED.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO GET OFF OF THE STREET ONTO THE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THEN THE TOWN WOULD BE OUT OF IT AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT INSURANCE FOR US.
THEY WOULD NEED IT FOR, FOR MARK'S OJA.
UM, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT BACK ON THE STREET.
I JUST LEARNED OF THIS PLAN THE OTHER DAY AS WELL.
THE ONLY ISSUE WITH FARMER'S MARKETS IS THAT, UM, YOU, THE FARMERS PREPARE WAYS A YEAR OUT.
SO MY FEELING IS EVERY UM, WEEK THAT GOES BY MAKES IT HARDER AND HARDER TO GET FARMERS.
LIKE LAST YEAR THERE WAS PRACTICALLY NO FARMERS AND IT DIDN'T WORK.
SO I SORT FEEL THAT IF IT'S GONNA HAPPEN, IT REALLY SHOULD BE RESOLVED, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO.
WE GOTTA WAIT FOR, I DON'T WANT LAST YEAR TO BE, YOU KNOW, A NEW HISTORY.
UH, THE HISTORY IS THAT THE TOWN BOARD ADOPTED A CONTRACT THAT WAS NEGOTIATED WITH THE PERSON WHO WAS GOING TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BLESSING OF HER UNNAMED ATTORNEY.
AND WE ADOPTED APPROVAL FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET AT THE BEGINNING OF MAY AFTER WE ADOPTED IT.
UM, THE PERSON WHO WAS GOING TO DO IT DECIDED WANTED MORE CHANGES WITH A NEW ATTORNEY AND THAT THEN KICKED IT BACK AND AT THE MONTH WHILE THERE WERE FURTHER NEGOTIATIONS.
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AND THEN WHAT KICKED IT EVEN FURTHER IS THAT LEADING UP TO THE FIRST DAY OF THE FARMER'S MARKET, UH, THE PERSON DIDN'T HAVE INSURANCE AND IT WAS OUR TOWN ATTORNEY WHO WORKED WITH HER BROKER IN ORDER TO GET HER THE INSURANCE THE NIGHT BEFORE THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO START.SO OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS GONNA BE A PROBLEM HAVING, UM, VENDORS.
AND SO WHATEVER THE ISSUES WERE WE FROM LAST YEAR, WE NEED TO LEARN FROM IT.
BUT IT WASN'T BECAUSE THE TOWN BOARD DIDN'T APPROVE THE FARMER'S MARKET EARLY.
WE APPROVED IT IN THE FIRST WEEK OF MAY FOR A JUNE 1ST START.
AND THEN THAT'S AFTER IT WAS NEGOTIATED AND EVERYBODY SEEMED TO BE HAPPY WITH IT.
IT, UH, IT WAS CHANGED IN TERMS OF, BUT I REALLY DO NEED, WE DO NEED TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF CAN WE USE A PUBLIC STREET AND CLOSE IT FOR SO AN INDIVIDUAL TO MAKE A PROFIT.
AND UH, AND I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD ALLEVIATE ALL OF THAT AND THEY COULD HAVE THE FARMER'S MARKET, WHICH I THINK WE ALSO SUPPORT HAVING A FARMER'S MARKET.
UM, BUT IF IT'S ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, IT ENDS ANY OF THE ISSUES WITH, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN DIDN'T DO THIS, THE TOWN DIDN'T DO THAT.
JUST, YOU KNOW, WORK IT OUT WITH MARK SOJA, WHO I THINK IS A VERY REASONABLE PERSON AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD BE ON ACTUALLY OFF OF THE STREET.
BUT THAT'S UP TO THE, THAT'S UP TO THE PERSON WHO'S DOING IT.
I JUST A THOUGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I PASSED BY, UM, THE NEW SENIOR HOUSING ON MANHATTAN AVENUE.
AND I'M WONDERING IF THAT WOULD BE, I'M JUST THROWING OUT, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A SECOND AGO.
IF THAT'S ANOTHER, UM, LOCATION, POTENTIAL LOCATION.
I'M NOT SURE HOW IT'S GONNA BE LANDSCAPED OR WHATEVER, BUT MOST OF THE SENIORS ARE NOT GONNA BE DRIVING.
UM, SO THERE MAY BE MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE SPACE.
UM, AND MAYBE AND THAT WOULD BE REALLY A GREAT LOCATION FOR, UM, A MARKET BECAUSE, UH, THE SENIORS PROBABLY WOULD LOVE HAVING FOOD RIGHT.
IN, YOU KNOW, A MARKET RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM.
AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AT 190 OR 33 OAK STREET COULD EASILY WALK, COULD WALK THERE.
PLUS YOU HAVE THE THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, AND YOU HAVE UNION BAPTIST CHURCH.
I MEAN, IS THAT A MUCH TRAFFIC? IS THAT A YEAH, SOMETHING WORTH.
SO THE VENDORS SHOULD SPEAK TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
THEY SHOULD SPEAK TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND NO, THE, THE, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY SPEAK.
THE HOUSING AUTHORITY NEED TO TALK WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, NOT FEE.
IT'S FOR THE VENDOR TO SPEAK TO SPEAK TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
THE CHIEF, CHIEF OF POLICE WOULDN'T BE, WOULD BE OUT OF IT.
IT WOULD BE ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
SO THAT'S THE CONVERSATION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT IT MAY BE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DID IT THERE PER PERHAPS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOME PARKING POSSIBLY ON A SATURDAY AT THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER THERE MIGHT BE, YOU KNOW, AVAILABLE PARKING.
YOU MAY HAVE SOME PARKING, THERE SHOULD BE PARKING AT THE, UM, AT THE CHURCH, AT THE SENIOR SITE, AT THE SCENE.
BUT YOU GOTTA, BUT YOU'RE PUTTING ON, WELL THERE NEEDS TO BE CONVERSATION, BUT YOU REMEMBER THERE'S ACTIVITIES AT BOTH LOCATIONS.
YOU HAVE SATURDAY ACTIVITIES AND YOU HAVE ACTIVITIES AT THE CHURCH.
I THINK THE CONVERSATION, THE VENDOR AND HOUSING AUTHORITY SHOULD HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AND SEE HOW THEY COULD WORK OUT.
'CAUSE I BELIEVE THERE SHOULD BE SOME PARKING AVAILABLE ON THAT SITE.
LET ME AND HOW MUCH IS, HOW MUCH PARKING IS THERE AVAILABLE? YEAH.
SO I MEAN, THAT NEEDS TO BE WORKED.
THE VENDOR NEEDS TO WORK THAT OUT.
FIGURE OUT WHAT IT MIGHT BE EASIER.
IT MIGHT BE EASIER FROM A LOGISTICS STANDPOINT.
NO, IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
THE VENDORS LISTENING SO THAT YEAH.
NO, I COULD SPEAK TO, YOU KNOW, COVID.
I I JUST, TWO OTHER THINGS THAT I JUST KEEP FORGETTING ABOUT.
UM, ONE IS, UM, THE LEAF BLOWER.
UM, YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE, I MEAN, WE SHOULD REALLY PUT SOMETHING ON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING IF WE HAVE TO AND, AND MOVE THAT ALONG ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, OR SAY WE'RE NOT DOING, I MEAN, FOR 30 YEARS I'VE BEEN SAYING I CANNOT KEEP UP WITH THE, THERE'S SO MANY VERSIONS.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT WE, YOU WANNA GET SOMETHING OUT THERE, BUT WE, WE, WE NEED TO BE SOMEWHAT ON THE SAME PAGE BECAUSE ANYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN SAYING, ANYTHING THAT WE PUT OUT THERE, NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA AGREE WITH.
SO IT'S 50 50, SO I UNDERSTAND YOU KIND, WHATEVER WE PUT OUT THERE, 50% OF THE PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA AGREE WITH.
IT'S, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE EMAILS WE GET 50% WANT CHANGE, 50% DON'T.
UH, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA CHANGE.
I JUST THINK WE'RE GOING TO MAKE DIFFERENT PEOPLE HAPPY AND MAKE OTHER PEOPLE UNHAPPY.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING WHAT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD? DO WE WANT DO SOMETHING OR DON'T WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING? UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING REALLY.
I MEAN THE, THE PROBLEM, THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS IT'S WHAT IS THAT SOMETHING? 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO APPEASE EVERYBODY WHO WRITES TO US AND IT DOESN'T SEEM, IT JUST DOESN'T
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SEEM TO BE TO BE WORKING.UM, SO NOW WE'RE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SEPARATING OR DIVIDING THE TOWN IN TWO, THREE, WHATEVER IT IS IN ORDER SO THAT WE'RE NOT HURTING THE LANDSCAPERS, THE PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPERS AS MUCH BECAUSE THEY CAN DO ONE PART OF THE TOWN AND THEN ANOTHER PART OF THE TOWN.
UH, BUT I WAS, I WAS AT SOME EVENT, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ONE IT WAS.
UM, AND A, A LANDSCAPER CAME UP TO ME AND SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA PUT ME OUTTA BUSINESS.
I SAID, OH NO, DON'T, WE'RE GONNA MAKE IT SO YOU CAN DO.
BUT MANY OF THEM, THEY CLUSTER THEIR CUSTOMERS IN A PARTICULAR AREA, IT'S MORE EFFICIENT FOR THEM.
AND THEY BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, THAT OTHER COMPANY CAN HAVE THAT AREA.
AND SO I'M NOT SO SURE THIS IS GONNA WORK EITHER.
IT'S, IT, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE, THERE'S NO RIGHT ANSWER.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S, THERE'S AN ANSWER TO THIS.
WE WANTED TO JUST WANT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA ACCOMPLISH VILLAGE IS DOING AND BE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WELL HOW MANY VILLAGES KEEPS GETTING POSTPONED IN OTHER VILLAGES TOO? THERE'S A LARGEMONT SCARSDALE.
ANYONE ELSE? LARGEMONT? WHAT ABOUT HASTING? WHAT'S HASTINGS DO? OH YEAH.
WELL, BECAUSE WE'VE ELIMINATED.
DID THEY? YEAH, I I I DON'T KNOW IF YEAH, MANY GO TO ELECTRIC, BUT OUR CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL I THINK SAYS ELECTRIC IS AS BAD AS GAS.
I MEAN, WE DID, I MEAN THIS, UNLESS WE WANT IT TO JUST WORK ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE IN REGARDS TO THE LEAF BLOWERS AND, AND HAVE A CAMPAIGN WHERE WE ASK OUR POLICE TO ENFORCE THAT THE NOISE ONLY, AND THERE'S NOT A NEW SEPARATE SECTION FOR SPECIFICALLY LEAF BLOWERS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THE ISSUE PEOPLE HAVE HAD, AND IT WON'T, IT WON'T HELP WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, BUT IT WOULD HELP WITH THE NOISE ISSUES, ISSUES WITH PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME AND, AND HEARING LOUD, UH, BLOWERS THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
SO BASICALLY YOU WOULDN'T BE SAYING YOU CAN'T USE GAS BLOWERS, BUT THE GAS, BUT THE GAS BLOWERS MAKE MORE NOISE.
SO IN EFFECT, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, UH, BANNING THE GAS BLOWERS, BUT YOU'RE BASICALLY BASING IT ON WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO PICK A CERTAIN DECIMAL LEVEL AND YEAH.
YOU KNOW, INITIALLY WE WERE HAVING IT BECAUSE SOME NEIGHBORS DON'T CARE ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS DOING IT.
BUT SOME, SOME NEIGHBORHOODS THEY DO.
AND SO ONE OF THE EARLIER PROPOSALS, WHICH I ALMOST GOT MY HEAD TAKEN OFF, WAS SUGGESTING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WE'RE NOT GONNA BE SENDING OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR DRIVING AROUND THE STREET JUST LOOKING, LISTENING FOR NOISE LEVELS.
UH, IT SHOULD BE BASED ON A COMPLAINT.
WE ACT ON ANONYMOUS COMPLAINTS.
BUT NO, THAT WAS, THAT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A, THERE'S, THERE'S AN ANSWER TO THIS.
'CAUSE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, IT'S EITHER NOT ENOUGH OR THERE'S NO ENFORCEMENT.
BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THINGS, IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE THE WAY IT, IT'S BEING WRITTEN.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, TOWN, WHY DID YOU PASS IT? BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ENFORCING IT.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT, IT'S TOUGH.
UNLESS WE TAKE SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AND JUST GO AND ADOPT IT.
BUT THERE'S NONE THAT'S, THAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
THAT'S LIKE OURS, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO A ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, SO MANY DIFFERENT CONCERNS.
THIS IS, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.
IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE MORE YOU WORK ON SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU GET CLOSER AND CLOSER TO AN ANSWER.
BUT I JUST SAW YOU GET EMAILS AND SOMEBODY SAYS, I SAY, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DEAL WITH IT WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
AND I DON'T PUT FRAME ON FOUR YEARS, BUT YOU CAN'T PUT A TIME FOR, BECAUSE WE, THIS HAS BEEN CHALLENGING HITTING ROAD ROADBLOCK.
SO, BUT, BUT WHAT YOU'LL SAY THOUGH, PAUL, IS WE'RE GONNA WORK ON IT AND THEN OUT WILL COME THE DRAFT AND THEN THERE'LL BE A CHANGE RIGHT.
THEN BASED, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, OKAY, SO NOW WE HAVE TO, WE HAD TO RE-NOTICE AND THEN, OKAY.
AND THEN WE JUST ABOUT TO GO AND, OKAY, NOW HOW ABOUT THIS? YOU KNOW? AND THAT'S, IT'S THE, HOW ABOUT THIS IS, BUT KNOW ONE FRUSTRATING, ONE OPTION, WHICH IS MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OTHER, THE EASIER OPTION IS SORT OF WHAT JOE IS RECOMMENDING.
BECAUSE WE COULD SAY WE'RE JUST, UH, HAVING A, JUST HAVING STRONGER NOISE ORDINANCE AND UH, AND NOT BASE IT ON LEAF BLOWERS, BUT SAY, YOU KNOW, AND I MEAN MAYBE THAT'S, THAT'S AT LEAST BETTER THAN NOTHING.
YOU KNOW? I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD LIMIT THE NUMBER OF LEAF BLOWERS ON A PROPERTY AT ONE TIME BECAUSE IT'S THE CUMULATIVE EFFECT OF, AND I TOOK A PICTURE.
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AND AGAIN, I DON'T REALLY MIND ALL THAT MUCH EVEN THOUGH I, I, I'M, I, UH, DEAL WITH ZOOM A LOT AT HOME.UM, BUT SEVEN BLOWERS ON ONE PROPERTY.
HOW BIG WAS THE PROPERTY? WELL, IT'S A CEMETERY.
BUT IT'S, BUT IT'S, BUT THEY GO OUT IN MASS.
AND WHAT'S FRUSTRATING, IT'S NOT ME 'CAUSE I'M NOT BACK TO IT, BUT THE SAME PEOPLE WHO ARE ENDURING SEVEN BLOWERS, AND I'M TALKING ENORMOUS ONES, INCLUDING TRACTORS.
UH, THEY GO RIGHT UP AGAINST RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
IT'S ACTUALLY ON GENE ON RESIDENTIAL HOMES.
AND THEY ARE SUBJECT TO, YOU CAN'T USE SEVEN BLOWERS.
YOU KNOW, YOU'LL CLEARLY ARE SEEDING THE NOISE LEVEL.
AND I JUST, I JUST THINK WE GOTTA BE CLEAR, YOU KNOW? THAT'S A REALLY GOOD POINT BECAUSE I KNOW, UM, I DO A LOT OF BICYCLING AND I SOMETIMES BICYCLE AROUND, YOU KNOW, SCARSDALE AND UM, AND I SOMETIMES I SOMETIMES HEAR LIKE SO MANY LEAF BLOWERS AND THEY HAVE A STRONG LEAF BLOWER LAW, BUT THEY HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT LEAF BLOWERS AT, IN, YOU KNOW, IN ONE LOCATION.
SO I AM NOT SURE IF THEY'RE GAS OR ELECTRIC BECAUSE I JUST KNOW IT'S NOISY.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT IN SCARS.
BMS. SHOULD WE MOVE ON THAT, THAT'S ANOTHER INTERESTING THING.
I, I THINK I, I WILL DRAFT, I TRY, TRY TO DRAFT SOMETHING THAT DEALS WITH DESAL LEVEL LEVELS AND ALSO THE AMOUNT OF GAS POWERED LEAF BLOWERS PER MAYBE A CERTAIN SQUARE FOOT.
MAYBE ONE EVERY WHITE PLAINS HAS SOMETHING LIKE ONE EVERY 5,000 SQUARE FEET.
OR MAYBE, MAYBE YOU COULD SAY, MAYBE WE COULD SAY, UM, UH, NOT TALKING ABOUT GAS BLOWERS, WE COULD SAY THERE'S A NOISE LEVEL AND YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN SAY A CERTAIN NUMBER CUMULATIVE.
DON'T MAKE, MAKE A GAS OR ELECTRIC.
TALKING OVERALL, ARE THERE ANY, DO ANY OF THE OTHER LAWS AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DEAL WITH HOW MANY WE FLOORS IN ONE FACILITY? LET'S SEE WHAT THE, WHAT THEY SUGGEST.
NO, BUT I THINK IF WE'RE BASING IT ON NOISE, I HAVE, I COULDN'T GET THEM ALL IN THE PICTURE.
THAT SEEMS LIKE A CLEAN, OKAY.
I WISH I COULD SHOW THIS TO, TO THE AUDIENCE.
AND I COULDN'T GET THEM ALL IN THE SAME PICTURE.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE MINDFUL.
CHILD ALBERT KEN HELP YOU STRAIGHTEN.
THE PROTOCOL FOR TOM BOARD MEETINGS.
I, I PUT THIS ON HERE BECAUSE I WAS, I WAS VERY, VERY UPSET AT US RECOGNIZING ANN AND ANDES FOR 50 YEARS OF A COMMITMENT TO THIS TOWN.
THESE WONDERFUL PEOPLE, CHERYL AND HERB ANSETT.
WE TOLD THEM THAT THEY WERE GOING TO RECEIVE A PROCLAMATION AT SEVEN 30 IN THE MOR IN THE EVENING.
AND WE, THEY SAT HERE FOR OVER AN HOUR AND A HALF, LONGER THAN THAT.
AND TWO HOURS, IT WAS TWO AND A HALF AND 37 HOURS.
THEY OPERATED DAYCARE CENTER FOR 50 YEARS.
THEY HAD TO BE UP AT FIVE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
THEY USED TO LIVE DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM ME.
SO I KNOW THEY WERE EARLY BIRDS.
'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO BE, THEY HAVE TO BE BRIGHT AND CHIPPER AT SEVEN O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING TO RECEIVE THE KIDS.
UM, AND THEY'RE JUST WONDERFUL PEOPLE.
AND I SAW AT EIGHT 10 THIS, THE DAUGHTER HAVING TO LEAVE.
AND THEN I SAW THEY WERE SO FRUSTRATED AS, YOU KNOW, THEY WALKED OUT.
THEY JUST, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE ONE MORE SONG AT THE END OF THIS, THIS CELEBRATION.
THAT WAS A VERY NICE CEREMONY.
BUT BECAUSE THE CLERK ISN'T SHOWING UP TO OUR WORK SESSIONS, WHEN WE DID AGENDA REVIEW, WE HAD 30, WE HAD 30 MINUTES ON THE AGENDA FOR 2020.
AND BECAUSE IT WAS SO LITTLE ON THE AGENDA, WE MADE IT 20.
SO ACTUALLY WE TOLD HIM, I THINK TO COME AT SEVEN 20, WE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AMBUSHED ON THESE, THESE PRESENTATIONS.
WE HAD NO, WE HAD NO IDEA THERE WERE GONNA BE 60 CERTIFICATES GIVEN THERE WERE GOING TO BE EIGHT PROCLAMATIONS GIVEN.
AND THAT WAS ALL EXPECTED TO BE DONE IN 20 MINUTES.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE LOOK ON THEIR FACES, LIKE, UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY EVENTUALLY CAME BACK IN THE ROOM 'CAUSE THEY WERE, THEY WERE LEAVING, THEY WERE ADAMANT, UH, THEY CAME BACK.
I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE A GOOD FEELING ABOUT GETTING A PROCLAMATION THAT NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD KNOWN IN ADVANCE, WE WOULD'VE MOVED THEM UP.
WHAT DID THEY TAKE? THREE MINUTES.
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TWO HOURS.'CAUSE IT, WE STARTED, SO, UM, FOR A THREE MINUTE THING AND THEN THEY HAD TO GET UP AND WORK IN THE MORNING AND HONORING THEM FOR 50 YEARS OF SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY WITH THE ANN AND ANDY DAYCARE CENTER.
SO ONE IS, I'M HOPING THAT THE CLERK WILL START SHOWING UP AT WORK.
SECONDLY, IF THERE'S SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, AND SHE KNOWS THAT SHE HAS THIS VERY, VERY LENGTHY THING THAT SHE TELLS US ABOUT IT.
BUT IN GENERAL, WE CAN'T SIT HERE WHEN WE'RE DOING THE AGENDA REVIEW.
IT'S FIVE MINUTES WHEN IT'S NOT MM-HMM.
BECAUSE IT MAKES IT LOOK LIKE WE'RE TOTALLY DYSFUNCTIONAL.
AND AGAIN, IT WAS A NICE CEREMONY, BUT IT WAS SPOILED BY HOW WE TREATED TWO LONG TIME MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, WHO HAVE DONE GREAT THINGS.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE SENT THEIR KIDS TO THE N N ANDY DAYCARE CENTER.
UM, I, I, I JUST, WE HAVE TO GET, WE CAN'T BE CUTE ABOUT IT.
WE HAVE TO BE, OKAY, HOW LONG IS THIS GONNA BE YOU, WE, WE NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING AS TO, WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE GONNA SPEAK.
60 PEOPLE WERE INTRODUCED, MANY OF THEM SPOKE PROCLAMATIONS WERE READ IN THEIR ENTIRETY WHEN THEY GOT TOWARDS THE END.
UH, AND WHAT REALLY GOT TO 'EM IS WHEN THEY WERE, THEY WERE JUST GETTING REALLY DISGUSTED.
NOW WE'LL END WITH A SONG AFTER TWO HOURS AND THEY'RE WAITING.
WELL, I THINK IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE COULD DO IS, UM, I MEAN, SINCE THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, ASKED FOR PRESENTATIONS THAT I ORGANIZED TO KEEP IT TO FIVE MINUTES, WE'VE BEEN KEEPING IT SHORT.
YOU KNOW, THE, AND WHEN I ASK SOMEBODY TO SHOW UP, I TRY MAKING IT FIVE MINUTES, SIX MINUTES AND TELL THEM IN ADVANCE.
I THINK IF THERE'S, UH, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD, UM, THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, WOMAN'S HISTORY MONTH, HISTORY MONTH, UH, CELEBRATIONS IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN DOING, SHE JUDITH'S BEEN DOING THIS FOR LIKE, PROBABLY 10 YEARS.
OR I HAVE A QUESTION BE I HAVE A QUESTION JUST REALLY QUICK AND, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR INTERRUPTING.
SO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, EVEN INCLUDING THE COUNTY, THEY HAVE A SEPARATE DAY FOR THAT.
SO WE, EVERYONE CAN COME IN AND ENJOY THAT MOMENT AND NOT HAVE TO, UM, IMPEDE ON THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
WHY DON'T WE HAVE A SEPARATE DAY SET ASIDE FOR WOMEN HISTORY MONTH AND THEN WE JUST CELEBRATE IN THAT WAY.
WE ALL COME IN AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE, WE CAN DO THAT A FULL PROGRAM INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT WITHIN TOWN BUSINESS.
'CAUSE THAT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE HAD PROGRAMS THAT HAS LASTED WAY BEYOND THAT TIMEFRAME.
NO, BUT LEMME JUST NOTHING LIKE THIS.
BUT LET ME, LET ME, UH, AND WE'RE LUCKY WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU KNOW, ONE SUGGEST ONE THAT WOULD'VE BEEN AWFUL.
AND THEN WE HOLD ON, PAUL, THIS.
AND THEN WE ALSO, AGAIN, REMEMBER, WE PEOPLE COMPLAIN AND RIGHTFULLY SO THAT THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOREVER, ALL NIGHT LONG TILL 10, 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AFTER WE GO THROUGH THIS LONG PROGRAMS AND STUFF.
SO WE, WE, WE NEED TO JUST GET A HANDLE IN, ON, ON THIS BECAUSE I MEAN THAT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY UNFAIR.
BUT, BUT ONE OF THE, THAT'S WHY WE'VE BEEN SETTING LIMITS AND, AND ADHERING TO THOSE LIMITS.
BUT ONE OPTION, ONE OPTION GOING FORWARD COULD BE A, UM, IF LET'S SAY WE HAVE A CEREMONY THAT WE THINK IS GONNA BE AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY YOU THEN WE COULD START AT SIX 30 RATHER THAN SEVEN 30 BECAUSE, AND BASICALLY SAY AT SEVEN 30 THERE'S A CUT UP TIME.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO, YOU CAN'T DO THAT.
NOT, NOT IF IT NOT IF, IF SOMETHING, IF THERE'S A TECHNICAL ISSUE, SOMETHING GOES WRONG, WE GET DELAYED.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENS, WE GET DELAYED.
I THINK IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SPECIAL PROGRAMS THAT THEY'RE NOT INCORPORATED WITH THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
THAT THEY NEED TO BE TOTALLY SEPARATE.
AND I'LL, I'LL REFER TO THE COUNTY.
THE COUNTY DOES DOES IT ALL THE TIME.
BLACK HISTORY MONTH, WHEN THEY HAVE PRESENTATIONS, UM, WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, UM, UNDER THE REGENERATIVE SCHOLARS.
ANY TYPE OF SPECIAL PROGRAMMING THAT SHOULD BE SEPARATE.
SEPARATE AND APART FROM A TOWN BOARD MEETING.
THE ONLY TWO THINGS THAT WERE ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS WHY WE SHORTENED IT FROM 30 MINUTES TO 20 MINUTES, WERE TWO PROCLAMATIONS.
THEN YOU WALK IN THE ROOM, THE ROOM IS FILLED AND YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY, YOU ENJOY, YOU COULD SEE EVERYBODY IS EXCITED.
THE FAMILY MEMBERS HAVE YOU HAVE FLOWERS BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S BEING RECOGNIZED IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL GOOD.
BUT DON'T NOT SHOW UP WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING AND THEN NOT TELL US, MAYBE TOLD YOU BUT NOT TELL THE REST OF US, HEY, I'VE INVITED 60 PEOPLE PLUS FAMILIES, PLUS WE'RE DOING EIGHT PROCLAMATIONS.
OUR NAMES ARE ON SOME OF THESE AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT SAYS.
WHICH IS ANOTHER ISSUE WE HAVE TO ADDRESS, RIGHT? YES.
PROCLAMATIONS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE VOTED
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ON.THERE'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING THAT, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FORMAL, BUT AT LEAST WE SHOULD KNOW WHAT THE, WHAT THEY SAY.
AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT HERE, IS WE CAN'T HAVE A REPEAT.
AND I'M PARTICULARLY SEEING 'EM 'CAUSE THEY SAT RIGHT IN THE FRONT ROW, RIGHT IN THOSE SEATS RIGHT THERE.
AND I COULD SEE THE EXCITEMENT IN THEIR FACE AS IT WENT FROM SEVEN 30 TO 7 45 TO EIGHT O'CLOCK.
AND THEN THEIR DAUGHTER HAD TO LEAVE AND IT, IT, IT WAS LIKE, WHY DID YOU BOTHER? OKAY.
WELL, IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN AND YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE BEING HONORED OR A SPECIAL PROGRAM AND THERE'S SOMEBODY, UM, AND ONE PERSON, THEY SHOULD BE PUT FIRST ON THE AGENDA.
THAT'S, HOLD ON, COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON MADE AN EXCELLENT SUGGESTION, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD CONSIDER, THAT IF WE'RE HAVING AN EVENT SUCH AS WOMEN FOR WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, THAT WE HAVE THAT ON A SEPARATE DAY.
IF IT'S, IF YOU'RE HONORING ONE OR TWO PEOPLE FOR A TOTAL OF FIVE OR 10 MINUTES, THAT'S DIFFERENT STORY.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT, WE'VE HAD PROGRAMS IN THE PAST WHERE WE'VE HAD L G B T Q, UH, THE FLAIR GRAZING CEREMONY, YOU KNOW, THAT TAKES A HALF HOUR.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT WE'VE HAD, UH, BUT WE BUILD TRAINING FOR HALF AN HOUR, BUT WE BUILD THAT IN.
BUT WHAT I'M SAYING, WE BUILD IT EVERY, WE KEEP IT AT THAT POINT.
BUT WE STARTED EARLY AND, AND NOBODY WAS CAUGHT BY SURPRISE.
SO THEN WHAT WE COULD DO IS, WE'LL, WE COULD SAY GOING FORWARD, THE WOMAN'S HISTORY, THERE'S ONLY TWO EVENTS THAT ARE, I THINK THERE ISN'T THE WOMAN'S HISTORY.
WE'VE NEVER, WE'VE NEVER HONORED 70, 68 PEOPLE.
YEAH, BUT I'M SAYING, BUT YOU, WE ALSO, SHOULD WE ALL AGREE THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE HONORED WERE DESERVING? OH, ABSOLUTELY.
LET'S NOT, LET'S NOT MIX ON AND APPLES AGAIN, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE ISSUE I'M SAYING, I'M SAYING IT WAS, I, I, WHEN I SAW PEOPLE, THEY WERE SO CONDUCTED, WHY WASN'T IT ON THE AGENDA? NO, THAT'S RIGHT.
PAUL, DO WE HAVE AN AGENDA REVIEW? NO, I, IT WASN'T ON THE AGENDA.
WE REQUEST, BUT EVEN, BUT E BUT, BUT, BUT THEN PAUL TOO, IF, IF YOU ARE HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE TOWN CLERK AND SHE'S ADVISING YOU, THEN THAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, WE CAN CAN'T.
I DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS GONNA BE, SHE SAID AT THE END OF THE, SHE SAID AT THE END OF, NO, NO.
BASICALLY, LET ME JUST GO AND TELL YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? I MENTIONED IT IN THE TOWN.
UM, UM, UH, JUDITH SENT A LETTER TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS SAYING, COULD WE MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR, UH, WHICH I DID THE RIGHT.
AND YOU, YOU MADE A RECOMMENDATION, RIGHT? ONE PERSON FOR ONE PERSON.
YOU MADE A RIGHT AFTER I DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING AND I DIDN'T, YOU KNOW, RESPOND AFTER YOU MADE YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
I SAID, OH, THIS IS REALLY GREAT.
EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD'S, YOU KNOW, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE PARTICIPATING IN THIS, COMING UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO I SAID TO JUDITH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, UM, UM, UH, FEMALE MEMBERS OF BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND UM, AND ALSO THERE'S SOME CHAIRS OF COMMISSIONS.
AND I SAID, DO YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'VE REALLY NEVER, PLUS, I, YOU KNOW, WHEN LISTENING TO, YOU KNOW, ERIC ZINGER, THEY'RE COMPLAINING, OH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME APPOINTMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN HOLDOVERS.
WHY DON'T WE HONOR, UH, THE FEMALE? UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, SO I SUGGESTED THAT THAT WAS THE LAST, YOU KNOW, SO I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD TAKE 15, 10 MINUTES OR 15 MINUTES BECAUSE I FIGURED MOST PEOPLE WOULDN'T SHOW UP, YOU KNOW? ANYWAY.
BUT IT TURNED OUT THAT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A GOOD TURNOUT.
I THINK PEOPLE, UH, WHO WERE HERE REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, APPRECIATED IT.
YOU KNOW, I, UM, THE ONLY, UH, PERSON WHO HAD CONTACTED ME BEFORE, THE ONLY, UH, UH, WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, ALFREDA WILLIAMS WHO TOLD ME SHE COULDN'T, I THINK SHE TOLD ME I SAW HER AT THE SUPERMARKET.
SHE SAID, OH, I DIDN'T, I WASN'T EVEN AWARE THAT SHE WAS, UM, UM, GONNA BE HONORED.
BUT, UM, BUT I, SHE SAID, OH, SHE'S SORRY, SHE CAN'T MAKE IT.
SO BESIDES THAT, UM, I REALLY WASN'T INVOLVED IN, UM, IN THE PROGRAM.
AND I, I, I REALLY THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE LIKE A 20 MINUTE PROGRAM BECAUSE I, I HAD REALLY NO, UH, NO, I WAS NOT INVOLVED AT ALL IN THE PROGRAM PLANNING.
SO THIS IS A, THIS IS A LESSON LEARNED FORWARD.
THE, I THINK WE HAVE TWO MAJOR, UM, PROGRAMS WHERE WE HONOR, I THINK FOR DURING BLACK HISTORY MONTH, I THINK JU HAS HAD, YOU KNOW, UH, AN EVENT WHERE WE'VE HONORED PEOPLE IN THE PAST, NEVER WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
NO, BUT I'M SAYING THAT'S A LOT.
WHY DON'T WE SAY FOR THOSE TWO EVENTS, WE'RE GONNA DO IT ON A SEPARATE DAY.
AND AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE, THERE ARE MORE, THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE THEN WHO GET REPEATED PROCLAMATIONS EACH YEAR, RIGHT.
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WANTED TO REALLY HONOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, YOU WOULD HONOR ALL OF THEM.YOU HONORED THE FEMALES BECAUSE YOU SAY, HEY, WE WANT TO SHOW YOU HOW MUCH WE RESPECT YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE TOWN.
WHAT ABOUT THE MALES? WELL, WE DON'T RESPECT THEIR RETURN.
THAT'S NOT, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE COME UP WITH A WAY TO ALSO SHOW THEM, IF THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF INVITING PEOPLE.
UM, WELL, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT DESERVE RESPECT.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? PEOPLE WORK REALLY HARD AND THEY SPEND A LOT OF TIME AND THEY DON'T REALLY GET THE, UH, THE RIGHT.
SO THAT, SO THAT IS, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE DONE SEPARATELY AND APART.
SO THAT MOMENT IS FOR EVERYONE.
SO WE CAN RECOGNIZE EVERYONE, NOT ONLY JUST FEMALES, AND WE CAN REC RECOGNIZE EVERY, EVERYBODY, EVERY BOARD AND COMMISSION MEMBER.
BECAUSE ALL THE VOLUNTEERS DESERVE EXACTLY.
BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD VOLUNTEER APPRECIATION BARBECUES IN THE PAST, AND WE'VE HAD EVENTS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THEM.
AT LEAST WE COULD HAVE HAD THAT INSTEAD.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT? TO BE HONEST, WELL, WE COULD HAVE DONE THIS AT THAT BAR, BUT NOBODY SHOWED.
I'M, I'M TELLING YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD WE EVEN HAD REFRESHMENTS DINNERS IN THE PAST AND PRACTICALLY NOBODY SHOWED UP.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK WE, I THINK WE'RE BELABORING THE THING.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY HAVE A LOT, AND AGAIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE WHO RECEIVED ABSOLUTELY.
AND WAS RECOGNIZED AND THIS HAS NOTHING AGAINST YOU.
AND THAT WE ARE JUST VERY HAPPY THAT WE WERE ABLE TO RECOGNIZE EACH AND EVERYONE WHO WAS LAST WEEK.
UM, THE CONCERN THAT WE ARE HAVING IS JUST THE LENGTH OF IT.
AND WE FEEL THAT IT SHOULD BE DEDICATED FOR JUST YOUR DAY AND NOT BEING INCORPORATED WITH OTHER TOWN BUSINESS.
SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S SEPARATE AND APART.
BUT AGAIN, ON BEHALF OF ALL THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE.
AND IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WAS ALL YOUR, ALL OF YOU WERE RECOGNIZED ON THE AGENDA THAT PEOPLE GETS, IT GETS MEMORIALIZED AND RIGHT, BECAUSE OF THE WAY IT WAS HANDLED.
IT WASN'T, ANYWAY, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION, PAUL, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION, A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR, FOR, UH, LET'S SEE, PERSONNEL, LEGAL CONTRACTS, PERSONNEL INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS, RIGHT? SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS.
YOU JUST READ THAT THE STATEMENT AND THAT PART SEEK LEGAL ADVICE.
LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.
WE'RE DOING SOME INTERVIEWS FOR SECOND.