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TO OUR TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.IT'S FIVE 18, UM, AND TODAY IS APRIL 11TH.
AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA START THE WORK SESSION.
UM, THE FIRST, UM, ISSUE WAS, UM, WE HAD A DISCUSSION A COUPLE, UM, WEEKS AGO ABOUT, UM, SUSTAINABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, WESTCHESTER AND, UM, WE HEARD FROM ROGER BURKHART AND LEO, UH, BRIGMAN.
AND BASICALLY, UM, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT DOING AN R F P FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, TO SEE IF WE COULD PUT LIKE A SOLAR CANOPY, UH, PARKING AREA, YOU KNOW, TOWN HALL, UM, A TOWN HALL OR AT OTHER LOCATIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, WHEN I SPOKE TO ROGER OVER THE WEEKEND, WHO'S A RESIDENT OF, UH, EAST IRVINGTON, HE THINKS THAT THE FIES PROCESS WOULD BE TO BASICALLY HAVE SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, WHICH IS EXPERIENCED IN DEALING WITH, UM, UM, SOLAR, YOU KNOW, ISSUES, UM, LIKE OVERSEE THE PROCESS.
AND, UM, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SO BACKED UP THE TOWN, THE TOWN WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES.
OTHERWISE, THIS IS JUST GONNA, I THINK, FALL BY THE WAYSIDE.
SO I JUST SORT OF, I'M WONDERING IF, UM, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD LET SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, UM, YOU KNOW, PROCEED.
YOU KNOW, I COULD LET THEM KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, THEY WOULD JUST MANAGE THE PROCESS AND AGAIN, THERE'S NO COST TO THE TOWN, AND IF THEY DO AN R F P, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE TOWN WOULD THEN BE INVOLVED IN REVIEWING, UH, THE SUBMISSIONS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE JUST, RIGHT.
I THINK, I THINK BASED ON PROCUREMENT POLICIES, SORRY, SAY AGAIN? I WAS JUST CONFUSED.
I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, ARE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE'RE LEADING, ARE, IS IT GONNA BE R F R R F P OR YOU HAVE SUSTAINABILITY WESTCHESTER SUSTAIN SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER R F P? I THINK IT'S A SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK BASED ON THE PROCUREMENT POLICY, WE WOULD HAVE TO RUN THE R F P, BUT WITH POSSIBLE ASSISTANCE FROM SUSTAINABLE, RIGHT.
WESTCHESTER AND, UM, COMMISSIONER DUQUE HAS ATTEMPTED TO SCHEDULE A MEETING FOR THIS FRIDAY WITH MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER FA AS WELL TO DISCUSS THIS WITH SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER.
SO CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION THEN? YES.
UM, IF, UH, YOU'RE GONNA BE MEETING WITH RICHARD FUN AND SUSTAINABLE AND, UM, AND GARY, AND THEN, AND MAYBE THEN YOU COULD COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION, UM, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, IF YOU AND RICHARD FEEL THIS IS THE FIESTA WAY AND YOU KNOW, THE BEST WAY OF MAKING THIS HAPPEN, THEN I WOULD SAY I, I WOULD THEN BE SUPPORTIVE.
WELL, WE GOTTA DEVELOP THE SCOPE OF WORK FIRST.
I, THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION.
IT'S, GINA, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE YOU HAD, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME, YOU KNOW, LEGITIMATE CONCERNS, WOULD YOU, UM, BE INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATING IN THAT MEETING WITH RICH AND, AND JOE AND THEN THIS WAY, YOU AND GARRETT AS WELL? YEAH, JUST SEND ME THE LINK IF I, IF I CAN MAKE IT.
IT'S DURING THE DAY THOUGH, BUT I CAN SEE IF I CAN TRY TO MAKE IT.
OKAY, NOW WE HAVE THE AGENDA REVIEW.
SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE BRIEF PRESENTATIONS.
THE VETERANS, UM, DISABLED AMERICAN VETERANS WANTED TO MAKE A, A QUICK PRESENTATION AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING.
UM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? OH, THEY, THEY WANNA JUST TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN, THEY'VE BEEN ASKING FOR, UM, A QUICK PRESENTATION FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR A WA FOR OVER A MONTH.
AND I TOLD THEM THAT THEY COULD, UH, SPEAK TO THE TOWN BOARD, UH, AT, AT OUR MEETING.
BUT WE, WE KNOW HOW 20 MINUTES BECAME TWO HOURS.
NO, BUT WE'LL, UH, I WILL BE SURE THAT IT WILL BE, UH, NOT TWO HOURS.
THIS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, I TOLD 'EM THAT IT HAS TO BE LIMITED AND I, I WILL TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, UM, FOR THAT.
I'M NOT QUESTIONING, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, IS THIS A REALISTIC NUMBER OR IS IT A NUMBER THAT WE'RE GONNA BE A LAUGHINGSTOCK AGAIN? NO, WE WON'T BE A LAUGHING, WE WON'T BE A LAUGHING STOCK.
HUGH KNOWS THAT HE HAS 20 MINUTES.
THEY BASICALLY ARE EFFICIENT AND YOU, THEY, THEY'RE TO THE POINT AND THEY BASICALLY WANT TO TELL US, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SOME, SOME THINGS THAT THEY WANNA MENTION AND IT'LL BE, IT, IT'LL BE BRIEF.
UM, THE SECOND THING IS, UM, UM, SUNO SHUKLA, UM, IS INVOLVED IN THE TEAM TASK FORCE, AND, UH, THEY'RE HAVING
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A FUNDRAISER IN ORLEY ON APRIL 14TH.AND I INVITED, UH, SUNO, UH, TO, TO SPEAK FOR FIVE MINUTES.
UM, AND, UM, ABOUT, ABOUT THE COMMUNITY GARDEN AT THE THEATER YOUNG, UM, COMMUNITY CENTER.
THEY'RE DOING A FUNDRAISER, WHICH IS GONNA BE GREAT.
I SPOKE TO TINA HARPER, UM, WHO'S, UM, ORGANIZING THE COMMUNITY GARDEN.
I SPOKE TO HER TODAY AT THE JOB THERE.
AND, UM, THEY'RE STARTING THE WORK VERY, VERY SOON.
AND THIS IS GONNA BE LIKE, SO POPULAR BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SENIORS, UM, AND YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO, IT'S GONNA BE AN INTERGENERATIONAL, UM, COMMUNITY GARDEN.
IS THERE A POWERPOINT REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT? IS THERE A POWERPOINT? UM, SHE, THEY, THEY'RE REALLY TALKING MORE ABOUT THE, THE FUNDRAISER.
YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A VERY BRIEF, UM, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET IT IS FIVE MINUTES REALISTIC? UH, I SAID FIVE MINUTES.
I SAID THE 1, 2, 3, IT'S NOT A, HER THING IS REALLY MORE THE FUNDRAISER, THE, THE, YOU JUST WANNA INVITE PEOPLE TO, UH, THE FUNDRAISER ON APRIL 14TH.
I POSTED IT ON THE WEBSITE AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE INTERESTED.
AND THEN THE LAST THING IS, THIS COULD TAKE, I SAID IT'S 15 MINUTES.
UM, UH, WE WANTED TO, UM, UM, HONOR, UH, PHELPS HOSPITAL, UM, WESTCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER, WHITE PLAINS HOSPITAL FOR DONATING REFLECTORS, UM, TO THE TOWN.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN GIVING OUT THOUSANDS OF REFLECTORS.
AND, UM, I ALSO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE, UH, THE INSPIRATION FOR THE REFLECTORS.
UM, HE'S GONNA KILL US, BUT MA BOWDEN SHOWED UP AT OUR TOWN BOARD MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO.
AND HE CAME UP WITH THE IDEA, AND, UM, WITHOUT HIS SUGGESTION, THERE WOULD BE MANY LIVES THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN LOST.
SO HE BASICALLY DESERVES, UM, OUR, I WANT TO TAKE ALL THE CREDIT, BUT I SAW YOU, SO I DECIDED THAT I, IF I TOOK ALL THE CREDIT, I WOULD BE, UH, CON YOU WOULD CONTRADICT IT.
SO, UH, I FIGURED I MIGHT AS WELL GIVE YOU THE CREDIT ANYWAY.
UH, BUT YOU REALLY DESERVE OUR APPRECIATION.
AND, AND THANKS FOR A, A VERY TERRIFIC SUGGESTION.
THEY'RE GIVING OUT, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF REFLECTORS IN, IN THE LOBBY, AND IT'S, THEY RAN OUT, UH, YESTERDAY AND WE NEEDED A NEW SUPPLY.
AND, UH, FRANCIS, THAT'S A TOTAL OF 15 MINUTES, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND THEN, UM, AND FRANCIS, YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE HAWK LIGHT, RIGHT? THAT'LL BE ABOUT 10 MINUTES.
'CAUSE WE NEED TO EXPLAIN HOW THE HAWK LIGHT WORKS.
'CAUSE THERE'S NO GREEN LIGHT, AND THAT'S GONNA THROW PEOPLE OFF A LITTLE BIT.
AND THEN AFTER ALL THIS, WE'LL HAVE A COUPLE MINUTES FOR THE TOWN BOARD.
NO, BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY, YOU'LL BE VERY IMPRESSED.
AND YOU'RE GONNA, I'M GONNA HOLD YOU DO THAT, PAUL, AND YOU'RE GONNA BE THE ONE THAT'S ENFORCING THE TIME.
I'M, I'M GONNA BE THE EN ENFORCER.
DID YOU MENTION THAT? WE ADDED THE PROCLAMATION FOR IVY DARLING'S HUNDREDTH BIRTHDAY.
YEAH, SHE ALREADY, SHE HAD ALREADY PRINTED THERE, SO, OKAY.
ARE WE SIGNING A PROCLAMATION? WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING GOING FORWARD.
SO WE'RE GONNA, SO WE NEED A SIGNATURE FOR TOMORROW'S.
SO NEXT, UH, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, WE HAVE, I GUESS THERE'S AN ISSUE IN TERMS OF, UM, UH, THE CONDOS AND CODES.
I HAVE TO RECUSE MYSELF SINCE I OWE A CONDO.
THAT'S, UH, YEAH, WELL, THE BOARD OF ETHICS, YEAH.
THE BOARD OF ETHICS DECISION, UH, SAID THAT THEY SAID YOU SHOULD CONSIDER RECUSING YOURSELVES, BUT THEY'RE NOT MANDATING IT.
SO IF I DECIDE TO RECUSE MYSELF, DO I GET TO GO OUT AND USE MY PHONE?
I THINK YOU'RE RECUSED FROM BEFORE.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ACCUSED RECUSED.
YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T PARTICIPATE DISCUSSION AND THEN NOT VOTE AFTER YOU'VE STEERED IT TO BE A POSITIVE VOTE.
I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST PRACTICE TO REALLY, YEAH.
SO WOULD BEST PRACTICE BE TO, UH, UH, GO TO MY OFFICE?
I JUST REALLY WONDER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN AN ACTUAL CONDO DEVELOPMENT COMES IN, WHEN YOU'VE RECRU A CELL ON SOMETHING THAT HAS, IS NOT BRINGING IN ANY CONDO AT ALL.
BUT THAT'S UP TO YOU TO DECIDE.
UM, WELL, THIS IS A SPECIFIC ONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, VOTE AND, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY DISAGREE WITH THE DIRECT DECISION, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I ASK FOR AN OPINION.
AND BECAUSE I TOO OWN A CONDO, I BEST HONOR IT TO.
SO I HAD A, I HAD, UH, SOME ISSUES AROSE WITH RESPECT TO THAT, UM, DEALING WITH RENTAL CONVERSIONS AND THE
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SUBSIDIZED HOUSING EXEMPTION.AND I ASKED EDIE IF SHE WOULD COME OUT AND ADDRESS THOSE.
UM, UH, TONIGHT AS A PART OF AGENDA REVIEW.
AND HERE'S, HERES NOW HERE, SHE'S COME ON UP.
WHAT WAS THE SECOND PART? WHETHER THE, UM, THE LAW EXEMPTS SUBSIDIZED HOUSING WAS A SILENT ONE.
THE REMAINDER OF AFFORDABLE UNITS.
DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE HAVE TOUSE OURSELVES FROM SET? YEAH.
I BELIEVE THAT YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY, COME ON, PAUL.
THAT'S I'LL, I'LL COME GET YOU WHEN THE DISCUSSION'S OVER.
I'M SO EDIE, WE WERE JUST, JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, IT'S HARD TO GET USED TO THIS
WAS IT SOMETHING WE SAID?
ARE THERE ANY, ARE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS WE CAN COME TO? NO, WE CAN'T HAVE THIS DISCUSSION.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE A QUORUM IN TOWN HALL.
SO THE FACT THAT GINA'S NOT HERE MEANS THAT SHE'S NOT PART OF THE QUORUM.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE THIS AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING FORM.
I WILL BE HERE AND WE'VE HAD SUBSTANTIAL DISCUSSION ON THIS, AND I BELIEVE I'D BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
MAY I JUST SPEAK AND NOT HAVE RESPONSES? IS THAT POSSIBLE? IS THAT LEGAL? NO, WE, WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM RIGHT NOW.
LET'S, LET'S, LET'S, LET'S NO
SO, SO IS TINA COMING TOMORROW? 'CAUSE IF SHE'S NOT GONNA BE HERE IN PERSON TOMORROW, I'M GONNA, I I WILL COME IN THERE ON MY DEATH BENCH.
I PROMISE YOU I'LL BE, NO, THAT'S NOT NECESSARY.
I MEAN, WE DON'T HAVE TO VOTE, REALLY.
I MEAN, OR DO WE HAVE TO VOTE? NO, I MEAN, BUT WE'VE BEEN KICKING THIS DOWN THE ROAD, SO I THINK YEAH, BUT YOU NEED TO, IF YOU'RE SICK THOUGH, LIKE, I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO COME IN HERE SICK.
YOU KNOW, GINA, I HAVE, I, I'M GONNA DO MY BEST.
I HAVE BEEN RESTING AS MUCH AS I CAN.
I GUESS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE WE YOU TO BE, TO ACCEPT WHEN WE GO BACK IN THE BACK? NO, BUT AS LONG AS YOU'RE WAITING FOR THEM THAT THE POSTCARDS, THE GOVERNOR CHANGED THE FILE.
WHY, WHY, WHY DON'T YOU WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM.
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT THE SAME CONDO BILL.
SHE'S TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I MIGHT AS WELL GET IT OFF, YOU KNOW, OFFICIALLY ON THE RECORD.
I GUESS YOU, NOW THEY'RE BACK.
LET'S JUST WAIT FOR THEM TO COME BACK.
SORRY, I MISUNDERSTANDING TOO MUCH GOING ON.
IS IT? YEAH, THE BUTTON'S NOT PRESSED.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW, GINA? YES.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO TAKE TWO SECONDS OF YOUR TIME TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE SENT OUT APPROXIMATELY 25,000, UM, POSTCARDS TO INFORM PROPERTY OWNERS, BOTH ONE, TWO, AND THREE FAMILY HOMES, CONDOS AND CO-OPS, THAT THERE'S BEEN A CHANGE IN THE LAW FROM, FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTION.
AND, UM, SO ANYBODY THAT'S 65 OR OLDER WITH THEIR INCOME, LESS THAN 58,000 MAY BE ELIGIBLE.
AND I WILL JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS, UM, AND REQUESTS AND NEW APPLICATIONS.
SO, UH, IT'S OUT THERE AND THE DEADLINE IS MAY 1ST AND THERE ARE NO EXTENSIONS.
SO, UM, OUR OFFICES ARE REALLY BUSY RIGHT NOW, BUT I JUST WANNA LET THE PUBLIC KNOW THAT, UH, IT'S POTENTIAL.
YOU ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE AT THE COUNTER TODAY.
I'VE HAD PEOPLE AT THE COUNTER SINCE THE DAY AFTER THEY WENT OUT AND, BUT FELICIA'S PURPOSES.
NO, AND MY STAFF HAS BEEN WONDERFUL WITH THE PUBLIC, SO THANK YOU.
SO, UM, ANYTHING ELSE IS GARRETT ON? UM, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO, UM, GARRETT'S NOT ON YET POSTPONED ON TB ONE ALSO 'CAUSE PENDING THE ACTIONS OF THE, OF THE STATE.
DO WE HAVE OH, YES, I WOULD AGREE.
DO WE HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA INCLUDE IT IN THE BUDGET? AND THEN I'VE HEARD A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, WE THINK IT'S GONNA BE IN THERE, BUT IS IT GOING TO BE IN THERE? WELL, NO, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING IN WRITING THAT I KNOW, BUT WE DO HAVE, THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADERS WERE TO DAVID THAT SHE WOULD TAKE CARE OF IT, MEANING
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IT WOULD BE IN THERE.SO UNTIL IT'S, IT, IT'S IN THERE UNTIL IT'S NOT.
I I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I CAN'T IMPUTE WHAT SHE MEANT.
SO MAYBE WHAT WE JUST SHOULD DO IS PUT IT ON FOR THE NEXT MEETING BECAUSE THE STATE BUDGET, I WOULD ASSUME WOULD BE APPROVED LIKE IN TWO, WITHIN TWO WEEKS WE CAN ONLY HOPE.
SO THEN IF WE JUST ADJOURN IT, UH, FOR TWO WEEKS, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
AND WE'RE GONNA APPOINT THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
UH, WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING, HOLDING DOWN THE COURT AND MORE.
I DON'T WANT TO MIX IT WITH THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
AND HE WAS, HE WAS, HE WAS SO HONEST.
HE SAID HE KEPT REFRESHING THE PAGE
WELL, I DIDN'T WANT THAT ADMITTED IN PUBLIC
NO, BUT IT, IT'S WELL DESERVED.
YEAH, WE'LL HAVE TO COORDINATE A, UH, OATH.
YOU WANT THAT DONE TOMORROW THEN? NO, NO, NO.
DID WE HAVE A LONG ENOUGH MEETING? THAT'S OKAY.
MAYBE THE NEXT MORNING OR SOMETHING, WE'D BE GREAT.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE LEAF BLOWER, UM, YOU KNOW, PROPOSAL, UH, WHAT WERE THE SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAD? THAT THEY WERE GOOD? YEAH.
SO I WILL HAVE TOMORROW WE'RE JUST SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APRIL 26TH MEETING.
SO ONE WEEK IN ADVANCE OF THAT HEARING, I'LL HAVE THE PROPOSED LAWS TO EVERYONE SO THAT YOU HAVE THE TIME TO REVIEW.
SO THIS WOULD, IT'S, IT'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.
HOWEVER, UM, IT WOULD BE MORE LOOKING AT THE NOISE ORDINANCE AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A STRUCTURE WHERE IT'S THE LEAF, THE GAS LEAF BLOWERS ARE BANNED ON A DAILY BASIS OR A SANITATION SCHEDULED BASIS.
IT WOULD JUST BE WORKING WITH THE NOISE ORDINANCE AND ENFORCING THE NOISE ORDINANCE FOR LOUD GAS BLOWERS OR ANY OTHER TYPE OF BLOWER.
AND THEN ALSO A PROPOSAL TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF GAS BLO, UH, LEAF BLOWERS THAT ARE ALLOWED PER CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE OF A PROPERTY PROPERTY.
I KNOW COUNCILMAN SHEHAN HAD POINTED OUT THAT ONE PROPERTY HAD MANY GAS BLOWERS IN, IN ONE AREA.
THIS WOULD LIMIT THE AMOUNT AND IT WILL SORT OF, UH, REPLICATE WHAT SOME OTHER TOWNS AND CITIES ARE DOING.
THAT SEEMS LIKE A SIMPLE YEAH.
AND IS THIS GONNA BE FOR ONE YEAR OR DO WE WANT TO MAKE IT A PERMANENT LAW? THAT'S THAT'S UP TO THE BOARD? YES.
WE COULD HAVE A ONE YEAR SUNSET PROVISION TO SEE IF THAT'S ENOUGH.
IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO CHANGE ANY OF THE ENFORCEMENT OR WE COULD MAKE IT PERMANENT MOVING FORWARD.
DO WE WANT TO, UM, ALSO HAVE LIKE SOME PROVISION WHERE, UH, SAY INITIALLY THERE'D BE WARNING PERIOD AND THEN THE ENFORCEMENT WOULD BE A LITTLE LATER SO PEOPLE COULD GET USED TO IT? SURE, YEAH.
SHORT TERM THOUGH, BECAUSE IT'S ONLY A YEAR.
SO, SO YOU WOULD LIKE A ONE YEAR SUNSET PROVISION AND MAYBE, AND A ONE WARNING BEFORE ENFORCEMENT.
WHY DON'T WE SAY WE GIVE EVERYBODY ONE WARNING.
IT BE, CAN IT BE A DISCRETIONARY SUNSET PROVISION RATHER THAN A MANDATORY SUNSET PROVISION?
BUT THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO, THEN THE LAW WOULDN'T BE FINAL.
SO I, I COULD WORK ON LANGUAGE WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST SO WE JUST, IF THE HUMAN CRIES ISN'T SO GREAT AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING OUT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO, DOESN'T HAVE TO SUNSET ON THE HAND.
IF NOBODY REALLY CARES, THEN THAT SEEMS LIKE IT'S WORKING.
THEN THE TOWN BOARD, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR WILL BE LIKE A NON-EVENT.
IT WILL JUST BE ON THE AGENDA AND NOBODY WILL SHOW UP BECAUSE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING.
WE HAVE TO TAKE AN ACTION NEXT YEAR.
I THINK THIS IS, I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
JUST MAKE A SUNSET AND FIX IT.
BUT, BUT I COULD MARK IT ON MY CALENDAR THAT IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT'S WORKING, AND I CAN TELL THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO
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REENACT IT AGAIN TO SET THE PUBLIC NOTICE IN A TIMELY FASHION SO THAT THERE'S NO DELAY, THAT THE SUNSET PROVISION DOES NOT OCCUR.I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY GOING ON, IT'S STARTING IN ANOTHER 15 OR 20 MINUTES OR SO.
ONCE THAT'S DONE, WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHO HAS THE REQUIRED TRAINING IN ORDER TO BE APPOINTED, AND WE'LL COME UP WITH A LIST
THAT'S WHY IT SAYS INFORMATION.
YOU GOT ANYTHING ELSE ON THE AGENDA? WELL, FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, WE SKIPPED OVER IT, BUT WE ARE GONNA HAVE TWO MORE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICTS COMING UP.
THERE'LL BE ANOTHER ONE IN AND ANOTHER MONTH COMING UP FOR EAST IRVINGTON.
BUT RIGHT NOW THESE ARE FOR, UH, THE, UH, NORTH ELMSFORD AND WEST ELMSFORD FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICTS.
SO WITH REGARD TO REAPPOINTMENTS, IF WE ARE, UM, APPOINTING SOMEONE WHO WAS AN ALTERNATE TO, TO THE REGULAR, TO A REGULAR COMMITTEE, DO WE, CAN WE JUST VOTE TO, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE TO MOVE THEM FROM ALTERNATE TO A REGULAR MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE? WE DO.
SO WE'LL HAVE TO, WE'LL HAVE, ON A FUTURE AGENDA, WE'LL HAVE TO, UH, THE C A C HAS HAD ANOTHER RESIGNATION, SO WE HAVE TO MOVE AN ALTERNATE INTO THAT SPOT AND THEN GET TWO MORE, UM, ALTERNATES.
UM, YEAH, THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO, OH, TWO THINGS.
UM, UM, KEN, WHEN WE WERE AT THE, UM, THE JOB FAIR TODAY MENTIONED THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UM, THE, THE MANHATTAN AVENUE, THERE WAS A HOLD UP, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S BEEN RESOLVED.
SO NOW, UH, DO YOU HAVE LIKE ANY IDEA WHEN IT'S GONNA BE, UH, YOU COMPLETE I I, TODAY IT LOOKED LIKE THEY'RE WORK STARTING TO LANDSCAPING.
UM, I DON'T, BECAUSE IT WAS LITERALLY RESOLVED TODAY.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, IF THERE'S A TIMELINE, WHAT THAT TIMELINE IS.
WHAT WAS THE HOLDUP? UH, THE, THE, THE LETTER FROM THE TOWN ENGINEER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE TO THINK THAT THE TOWN WAS HOLDING SOMETHING UP.
THERE'S A PIPE THAT DOESN'T HAVE PROPER PITCH.
UM, AND WE HAD TO GIVE A PERMIT FOR THE CONNECTION POINT FOR THIS PIPE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A, UH, THE PROPER PITCH.
IT WAS, IT WAS INSTALLED WITHOUT THE, UH, NECESSARY, UM, UM, UH, PITCH THAT IT NEEDS IN ORDER FOR WASTE TO MOVE DOWN.
AND SO THERE HAD TO BECOME A, A, UH, HOW DO YOU RESOLVE THAT? UH, AND THAT'S WHAT THE WORK WAS ABOUT.
SO IT'S NOT THE ENGINEER FAULT, IT'S THE ENGINEER WHO, UH, RECOGNIZED, UH, AS DID THE COUNTY THAT THE, UH, THE PIPE DOES NOT HAVE THE PROPER PITCH BECAUSE OF THE HEIGHT THAT THE BUILDING WAS MADE.
KEN, KEN, WE WERE ALSO TALKING, I THINK AT THE LAST WORK SESSION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE FARMER'S MARKET.
YOU KNOW, COLBY, UM, WANTED TO, UM, SET UP A FARMER'S MARKET ON MANHATTAN AVENUE, AND I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD REACH OUT TO THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY AND ASK THEM THAT THE SENIOR HOUSING, THE NEW SENIOR HOUSING COULD BE THE LOCATION, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE SENIORS WHO LIVE THERE DON'T DRIVE MM-HMM.
SO THERE'S PROBABLY LIKE A LARGER AREA, UH, WHERE, AND THAT WOULD BE LIKE IDEAL BECAUSE IT'S CLOSE TO UNION BAPTIST CHURCH.
IT'S ON, UH, YOU KNOW, WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF MANHATTAN, 190 AND 33 OAK.
UM, AND THEY MAY NOT BE, UH, TRAFFIC RELATED, YOU KNOW, ISSUES.
AND THE SENIORS WOULD LOVE HAVING A FARMER'S MARKET IN THEIR BACKYARD.
I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
IT REALLY, SO MAYBE IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THE AUTHORITY.
THE PARKING STILL MIGHT BE AN ISSUE.
UM, BECAUSE THERE WON'T BE PARKING FOR PEOPLE TO COME AND PARK TO GO.
THEY'LL HAVE TO PARK ON THE STREET AND PARK.
BUT THERE'S, IT'S EASIER BECAUSE THERE'S SIDE PARKING AND MAYBE MM-HMM.
THEY, THE COMMUNITY CENTER HAS EVENTS ALL THE TIME.
AND I DON'T THINK THIS IS GONNA BE LIKE A MOB.
I'VE SCENE EVERY, YOU KNOW, EVERY WEEK.
I'LL ASK WHAT HAPPENED TO EL YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS, UM, YOU KNOW, MIGHT BE, UM, YOU KNOW, EASY, YOU KNOW, LIKE EASIER BECAUSE LIKE IF YOU WERE A SENIOR CITIZEN LIVING, YOU KNOW, LIVING, UH, IN AN APARTMENT, A NEW APARTMENT, AND EVERY SATURDAY THERE IS, UM, THERE'S A FARMER'S MARKET IN YOUR BACKYARD.
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IT'S A FANTASTIC, YOU KNOW, AMENITY.PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE WOULD LOVE IT.
I MEAN, ALL, I THINK ALL THOSE SENIORS WOULD LOVE IT.
AND I THINK THAT IT, IT MUTUALLY BENEFICIAL.
WELL, I, I THINK YOU SHOULD GET THEIR OPINIONS RATHER THAN MAKING THAT ASSUMPTION, BECAUSE THEY MIGHT WANT THEIR PARKING LOTS TO BE FREE FOR VISITORS, PEOPLE COMING.
NO, WE WOULD ASK OTHER MEMBERS COMING TO SEE THEM, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST THINK THAT IT, IT REALLY OUT OF RESPECT TO ALL INVOLVED, UM, PEOPLE SHOULD BE ASKED.
WE'LL, WE'LL, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS JUST ANOTHER OPTION BECAUSE MM-HMM.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S SORT OF GETTING LATE IN THE SEASON NOW.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO GIVE HER THE BEST CHANCE OF BEING SUCCESSFUL.
NEXT, UM, THE RESERVE PARKING SPOT, AND THEN WE'LL BE WITH YOU.
UM, UM, THIS IS THE PARKING SPOT ON CENTRAL AVENUE, AND THERE'S A MAN, HE'S VERY DISABLED, UH, HAS A VERY OH, YOU, YEAH.
HE'S NOT VERY DISABLED, SORRY.
HE'S, UH, UH, PHYSICALLY CHALLENGED TO WALK TO HIS, UH, TO HIS HOUSE.
AND I ASKED HIM TO COME, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S, FOR THOSE OF US WHO DON'T HAVE A, UH, UH, A DISABILITY, WALKING FROM YOUR CAR TO AN APARTMENT MAY NOT BE A BIG DEAL FOR SOMEBODY WHO'S HAS A CHALLENGE.
DO YOU PREFER TO SIT OR STAND? UH, I THINK I'LL SIT.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
JUST PRESS THE BUTTON AND TURN YOUR MIC OFF.
UH, MICHAEL ROACH, FOR SIX YEARS I'VE BEEN LIVING AT, UH, SCARSDALE COUNTRY ESTATES, UM, AND A RESIDENT OF GREENBURG.
AND, UH, I DID MY UTMOST, UH, TO FIND THE APARTMENT THAT WAS GROUND LEVEL.
THERE WERE VERY FEW, BUT IT WAS GROUND LEVEL ZERO ACCESS INTO MY OWN DOOR.
UH, AND, UM, AND THE BUILDING FLAT ON THE GROUND.
AND WHEN I WAS, UH, INTERVIEWED FOR THE ADMISSIONS, I, THIS WAS SIX YEARS AGO, I CAME WITH THE DOCUMENTATION OF A PERMANENT DISABILITY, WHICH WAS 20 YEARS OLD, OF 20 YEARS AGO.
UH, AND, UH, IT WOULD NOT IMPROVE.
THERE'S NO CURE, AND IT WOULD GET PROGRESSIVELY WORSE.
SO I DID EVERYTHING IN MY POWER TO FIND THE SPOT.
WHAT I WAS ASKING FOR IS, UH, A, UH, DESIGNATED, UH, PARKING SPOT CLOSE TO THE SIDEWALK THAT I COULD MANEUVER SIX YEARS AGO.
IT WAS EASIER, BUT IT WAS STILL NECESSARY.
UH, AND IN THESE 20 YEARS, IT REALLY HAS GOTTEN WORSE WITH, WITH WALKING AIDS AND SO FORTH.
IN ANY EVENT, UH, I WAS A BIT OF A PIONEER.
LIKE, YOU, YOU WERE ALL LAUDED, UH, A BIT BECAUSE MY EFFORTS WITH THE BOARDS IN THOSE FIRST YEARS, UH, DID RES RESULT IN A SHARED HANDICAP SPOT.
AND I FOUGHT FOR A YEAR AND A HALF WITH MANAGEMENT AND SO FORTH, BECAUSE ON THE TWO CAMPUSES WITH 150 UNITS OR WHATEVER, I MEAN, IT'S ALL DOCUMENTED.
UH, THERE WAS NOT ONE SHARED HANDICAP SPOT.
AND I, AND THEY SAID THAT'S ALL WE COULD, UH, WORK ON IS A SHARED HANDICAP SPOT.
WHO IS THE WE, UH, UH, THE, UH, THE BOARD OF SCARSDALE COUNTRY ESTATES.
AND SO I WAS SEEKING THEIR ADVICE, BUT I STARTED ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, OR THREE YEARS AGO, A PARALLEL TRACK.
AND THAT WAS WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE SCARSDALE COUNTRY ESTATES BOARD.
AND I'VE SENT THESE MISINFORMATION TO YOU, UH, WHEN I MET WITH THE, WITH THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND MET WITH THE TRA LETTERS TO THE TRA THE MAN WHO HANDLES THE TRAFFIC, UH, A SERGEANT.
I DIDN'T BRING ALL THAT WITH ME BECAUSE IT WAS ALL, UH, SENT ALL DOCUMENTED.
UM, AND THEY SAID THEY WERE DOING A, UH, FEASIBILITY STUDY AND, AND SO FORTH.
IN THE MEANTIME, SCARSDALE COUNTRY ESTATES, UH, DID A NAME, A SPOT FOR SHARED USE.
AND IT WAS AT THE END OF MY CAMPUS.
I TRIED TO HAVE IT MOVE, BUT IT HAS TO BE SERVE EVERYBODY.
SO IT'S UNDERSTANDABLE, WHEREVER IT IS, IS WHERE IT IS, BECAUSE MY SITUATION HAS GOT PROGRESSIVELY WORSE.
THE PLACE THAT THE SHARED SPOT IN IS OUTTA MY RANGE.
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FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS, I'VE GIVEN MEDICAL DOCUMENTATION, UH, OF HOW IT'S GETTING EXCESSIVE FOR ME.IT'S BEYOND MY ABILITY TO EMULATE.
AND IN MY LAST COMMUNICATION THAT I SENT, I MENTIONED THAT, UH, THOSE EFFORTS THAT I'M TRYING TO TAKE CARE OF, UH, LIKE WATER, WATER AEROBICS, AND PHYSICAL THERAPY AND PAIN MANAGEMENT AND ORTHOPEDIC APPOINTMENTS AND ALL THESE THINGS, I HAVE TO BE CAREFUL OF LEAVING THE CAMPUS BECAUSE I, THERE'S NO SPOT THAT I COULD BE GUARANTEED IN THE, THE SHARED HANDICAPPED IS OUTSIDE OF MY RANGE, BUT IT'S AT LEAST, IT'S, IT'S A SPOT MAYBE, BUT IT'S SHARED.
AND SO FINALLY I SOUGHT, UH, ADVOCACY THROUGH THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION OF WESTCHESTER COUNTY, THE HOUSING BOARD.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING I COULDN'T DO BECAUSE IT DIDN'T REQUIRE FUNDS.
UH, AND THEY, AND THEY, AND THE INVESTIGATORS CAME, THEY IDENTIFIED THE SPOT AT THE END OF THE, OF THE WHOLE PARKING AREA, WHICH IS ALREADY MARKED WITH WHITE BUFFERS AND SO FORTH.
IT'S A PERFECT SPOT TO BE ABLE TO PULL IN, TO BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF, IT'S NOT SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN OTHER CARS.
AND THAT WAS THEIR SUGGESTION TO THE SCARSDALE COUNTRY ESTATES.
UH, SCARSDALE COUNTRY ESTATES WAS NOT PLEASED THAT I SOUGHT, UH, BUT AFTER ALL THESE YEARS,
SO THEY, AND THE DOCUMENTS FROM THAT COURT FILING, THEY RESPONDED.
THEY RESPONDED BY SAYING, THE SPOT YOU'VE IDENTIFIED AS, AS YOU, THAT MIGHT MEET YOUR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION IS NOT OURS.
IT'S OWNED BY THE TOWN OF GREEN PARK.
SO IT WAS THEN THAT I MORE AGGRESSIVELY BEGAN TO COMMUNICATE WITH MR. FINER.
UM, AND, UH, AND HE DID ASK THAT THEY, UH, THEY ALLOT THAT SPOT.
UH, BUT I WAITED AND EACH WINTER IT'S DIFFICULT.
THIS IS MY FIFTH WINTER, AND THAT'S ADDS EXTRA STRESS BECAUSE I FEAR OF FALLING IS A, IS A VERY BIG ISSUE EVEN WITH, UH, WITH THE EQUIPMENT.
AND SO, UM, THEY FINALLY, THEY FINALLY RESPONDED BECAUSE HE WAS, HE MADE THE RECOMMENDATION TO, TO MEET MY NEED.
AND THEY RESPONDED WITH THE SPOT.
AND THAT SPOT IS EVEN BEYOND THE SHARED HANDICAPPED ONE.
AND THEY ASKED HIM IN ADVANCE THAT I WOULD HAVE, WHY AM I WILLING TO PAY $50 FOR THAT SPOT MONTHLY FEE? AND ALTHOUGH MY IN RETIREMENT INCOME IS LESS THAN 40,000, I HEARD SOMEBODY JUST MENTIONING SENIORS OR, AND I, I THANK THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR THE THURSDAY FOOD PARCEL THAT COMES OUT OF THEODORE BUILDING.
YOU KNOW, I'VE PROCESSED, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MY TAX AND SO FORTH, THAT INCOME, EVEN 50 A MONTH IS, IS HARD ON ME.
BUT I, I'M SO DESPERATE THAT I SAID YES, BUT I WAS ASSUMING THAT IT WOULD BE THE SPOT THAT WE WERE SPEAKING OF THAT SPOT RIGHT ACROSS.
AND INSTEAD, IT'S EVEN FURTHER AND IT'S NEXT TO THE HANDICAP SPOT THAT'S THEIR SHARED HANDICAP SPOT, WHICH WAS THE SIGN WAS REMOVED COMPACT CARS ONLY THAT THEY MADE MY $50 A MONTH SPOT COMPACT CARS ONLY.
AND DEPENDING ON HOW THAT PERSON PARKS ON THAT BLUE LINE, I MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE CAR, NEVERMIND ANY EQUIPMENT.
OH, YOU'RE ONE OF THE, EXCUSE ME, PAUL.
AND WHO ARE YOU WRITING THE CHECK TO FOR $50? I, WHEN THEY FIND THE IDENTIFIED THE SPOT THAT THEY, THEY, THAT THEY'VE ALLOTTED FOR ME.
'CAUSE PREVIOUSLY I SAID YES, I WOULD PAY IT IF I HAVE TO.
UH, BUT THAT'S EVEN FURTHER OUT OF THE RANGE.
BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE POWER.
BUT THE THING IS, ARE YOU, HAVE YOU WRITTEN A CHECK? HAVE YOU WRITTEN? OH, I HAVE NOT.
AND I DIDN'T WANT TO USE THAT ONCE IT WAS IDENTIFIED ON THAT VERY SAME DAY, I WROTE TO MR. FINER, UH, AND THE, THE SENDING THE COPY OF THE EMAIL FROM MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU, HE INTERPRETED IT GOOD NEWS BECAUSE HE SAYS, UH, SOUTH, UH, SOUTH CAMPUS PARKING LOT ALLOTTED PARKING SPACE ALLOTTED.
BUT I WAS STUNNED WHEN, YOU KNOW, READ FURTHER, THE, THE, THE SPACE IS NOT ONLY WELL WITHOUT BEYOND MY MEANS, EVEN WHEN THE LAST TWO, UH, DOCTOR'S NOTES THAT WERE WRITTEN ABOUT ALARMING DEGRADATION, CAN, CAN YOU RESPOND THOUGH? YES.
AS TO WHO WAS, WHO WAS, WHO BE THE BILLING INSTITUTION, EVEN IF YOU HAVEN'T PAID YET, WHO IS BILLING YES.
IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE BILLED OUT OF THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, AND IT WOULD BE A PART OF MY MONTHLY MAINTENANCE FEE THAT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, I NORMALLY,
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I THINK, I DON'T WHAT'S THE NAME OF THE MANAGE, WHAT IS NAME OF THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY? WELL, YOU HAVE ALL THE, IT'S ALL YOU HAVE THE MANAGEMENT.BUT THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION IS, THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO, UH, CHARGE ANY OF THE TENANTS, UH, FOR PARKING WHEN THEY DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY.
SO PAUL, DO YOU, TO YOUR KNOWLEDGE, ARE THEY CHARGING ANYONE FOR PARKING? OH, YES, OF COURSE.
I, I WAS, UH, THEY, I WAS ON A LIST SIX YEARS AGO WHEN MY MOBILITY WAS BETTER
BUT YOU SPACE, BUT YOU, WHICH GARAGE SPACE, IS IT THE ONE CLOSEST TO ME OR A RESERVED PARKING SPACE? WE JUST RESERVED $50 A MONTH.
BUT THOSE OPTIONS ARE, ARE BEYOND MY PHYSICAL CAPABILITY.
AND SO THAT'S WHEN, OVER THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, AND BY THE WAY, THE WAIT LIST IS ENORMOUS.
FINALLY, THEY SAID WE WOULD, WE WOULD BUMP YOU UP ON THE WAIT LIST.
BUT A GARAGE SPACE IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITY.
SO THE QUESTION, THE QUESTION IS, DO WE, UH, JOE, DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY, SINCE IT'S TOWN ON LAND RATHER THAN THE MAN, COULD WE SAY WE'RE WE AS A BOARD DIRECT THE, UH, THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS TO HAVE A DESIGNATED, UH, UH, RESERVE SPOT AT THE LOCATION YOU WANT? BECAUSE I FEEL IT'S NOT THE, SO THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY OF SAYING YES OR NO.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD JUST SAY WE'RE GONNA ACCOMMODATE IT.
AND THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS OUT OF THE, THEY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
SO IS THIS A, A PAVED STRIPED LOT THAT, YOU KNOW, I WHERE YOU HAVE THE PHOTOS THAT IT SHOWS FROM THE WALKWAY TO THIS SPOT? YES.
THE END THERE, A CAR PARKED IN, IN AN ISLAND.
AND THE END OF THAT ISLAND HAS A BUFFER ON IT WITH, WITH THE TRIANGLE AND WHITE MARKS.
WHY DOES IT HAVE THAT BUFFER? BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE COME AROUND THE ROAD.
BUT THAT'S, BUT HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
LEMME JUST, LEMME JUST FINISH MY QUESTION.
SO THIS IS A PAVED STRIPED LOT.
HOW MANY SPACES ARE ON THE LOT THAT WE OWN? THE WHOLE THING, EVERYTHING.
BUT HOW MANY SPACES ARE THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND, AND WE OWN THAT WHOLE, WE OWN THE CENTER SECTION.
BETWEEN THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS AND BETWEEN THE TWO RECTANGULAR BUILDINGS AT THE BOTTOM.
THE GARAGES WE OWN IN BETWEEN AREA.
I DO, I BELIEVE I KNOW WHO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS, AND I HAVE A REQUEST OUT TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO MEET WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK TO RESOLVE THIS ISSUE.
THAT WOULD LET, LET ME ASK A QUESTION IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S NOT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED THERE'S TWO ISSUES.
ONE IS THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY ILLEGALLY CHARGING AND MAKING DECISIONS ON TAP FOR TOWN PROPERTY.
THE, THE PRIORITY THAT, I DON'T CARE IF IT TAKES A WEEK OR TWO WEEKS OR WHATEVER TO RESOLVE, I FEEL THAT YOUR ISSUE, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY THAT YOU'RE BEING, THAT YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT GETTING TO YOUR APARTMENT IS A CRISIS FOR YOU.
SO I SORT OF FEEL THAT WE SHOULD, AS A TOWN BOARD SAY, WE DON'T CARE WHAT THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY SAYS WE'RE, WE ARE DIRECTING THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO, UM, PUT UP A DESIGN ONE SPOT NEXT HERE, THE CLOSEST TO SPOT AND DO IT TOMORROW IF WE COULD.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT, IF THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WANTS TO FIGHT IT, WE FIGHT IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I, BUT TO ME, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ALWAYS, AS A TOWN BOARD BEEN SO PROACTIVE WITH DISABILITY ISSUES.
AND HERE YOU HAVE A VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERN FOR ME, THIS MAY NOT BE A CRISIS FOR YOU.
AND IN YEARS IN COMING, YOU SEE ALL THE TIMES I'VE WRITTEN, YOU'VE WRITTEN FOR YEARS AND PHOTOS.
BUT MY QUESTION IS, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH PAUL.
MY QUESTION IS, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY IS ACTING AS IF THE CONDO DEVELOPMENT OWNS THE PARKING LOT.
I I HAVE A REQUEST OUT TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK TO RESOLVE THESE ISSUES.
SO I HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY AND WE NEVER GAVE THEM PERMISSION.
TO ACT AS IF THEY OWN THE PARKING.
AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT PAYING ANYTHING TO THE TOWN.
SO THIS NEEDS TO BE RESOLVED BOTH ON THIS LEVEL OKAY.
AND THE ENTIRE OWNERSHIP ISSUE.
BUT THERE ARE EMAILS FROM PAUL TO THE, TO THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY ASKING WOULD THEY PLEASE ACCOMMODATE THE SPOT MM-HMM.
BUT THAT, THAT REQUEST SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN MADE.
SO THEY'RE GONNA MAKE IT SEEM LIKE, WELL, THE TOWN MUST THINK THAT WE ARE OKAY DOING THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE EMAILS.
WELL, HOW LONG HAVE THEY BEEN USING THE PARKING LOT? WITHOUT OUR PERMISSION? A LONG AMOUNT OF TIME.
THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT FOR, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THAT.
THE, THE OTHER PROBLEM, THAT'S AN ISSUE, RIGHT? WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND WITH, UH, THE COMPLEX FOR YEARS.
AND WE WERE, LOOK, YOU KNOW, AT ONE POINT WE SAID, WHY DON'T WE JUST SELL YOU THE PROPERTY? AND I'VE HAD, I, I MIGHT HAVE COPIED YOU ON THAT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'VE ASKED HIM, THEY
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BASICALLY DIDN'T FOLLOW UP ON IT.AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE SAID IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE FOR THE TOWN TO OWN A PARKING LOT THAT IS BASICALLY, UM, USED ONLY BY, UH, BY THE RESIDENTS.
SO THE, SO THE, THE CONDO IS ON NOTICE THAT THEY DON'T OWN THE PARKING LOT.
THEY'VE BEEN ON THE CO-OP, THE CO-OP, THE CO-OP.
THEY'VE BEEN ON NOTICE, WE WERE ASKING, UH, FOR HOW MUCH IT WOULD BE ASSESSED, HOW MUCH WE COULD SELL FOR, YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD AT LEAST TWO OR THREE MEETINGS IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS WITH, UH, WITH, WITH RESIDENTS AND, AND THEIR BOARD.
BUT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE ONLY, BUT HOW IS JOE, THEY STILL CONTINUED TO CHARGE FOR SOMETHING.
NO, I WASN'T AWARE OF THEIR CHARGING.
AND I DON'T WANNA BE THE, UH, THE, I'M, I'M NOT A WHISTLEBLOWER HERE, YOU KNOW, I JUST, IT'S TOO LATE.
I DON'T THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S ETHICAL.
I THINK IT'S WRONG, BUT I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN SEEKING AN ACCOMMODATION FOR ALL OF THIS TIME, EVEN AGREED.
EVEN THOUGH I KNEW IT WAS UNDERSTAND WHATEVER I WAS GONNA DO WITHOUT ARGUING AT ALL, YOU'RE ACTUALLY EXPOSING YOUR PROBLEM.
THAT AND SPOT WAS SO IDENTIFIABLE.
AND SO, UH, AND, AND WHEN THEY WERE GONNA ACT ON THE BEGINNING OF THE WINTER, UH, AND THEY SAID, OH, WE NEED GOOD WEATHER.
STEVE, THE MANAGEMENT GUY, THE FELLOW WHO REPRESENTS MANAGEMENT, SAYS TO BE ABLE TO WRITE, RESERVED OR SOMETHING ON THE BOTTOM.
AND I SAID, UH, SNOW IS GOING TO COVER THAT ANYWAY.
IF IT'S JUST A SIGN CAN BE PUT UP THAT I CAN BE ABLE TO USE IT FOR THE TWO MONTHS OF THE WINTER.
FINALLY, WE HAD GOOD WEATHER LAST WEEK, AND THEY STARTED TO RE JUST NAME, THEY NAMED TWO NEW SPOTS.
THEY RES STRIPPED OUR PARKING LOT.
AND UNFORTUNATELY I AM IN ONE OF TWO NEWLY IDENTIFIED AS RESERVED.
THEY WERE OPEN SPACES PREVIOUSLY.
WELL, WE'LL, WE'LL, AND THEY'RE VERY, IT'S VERY TIGHT.
THE ATTORNEY IS ADDRESSING IT.
I'M SORRY I WAS SO LONG-WINDED.
LET ME ASK YOU UNDERSTAND, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
BUT PAUL, BEFORE YOU SAY THANK YOU, I WANNA ASK YOU, JOE, JOE ASKED US TO GIVE HIM TIME TO DO THE RESEARCH ON THIS.
WHICH HE HASN'T FINISHED YET, BUT THIS WENT BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR SOME REASON OR OTHER.
SO I DON'T WANNA PUT JOE IN A COMPROMISING SITUATION, WHICH MAY PREVENT US FROM FINDING THE RELIEF THAT THE TOWN SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO.
BY DOING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, OFF THE CUFF.
AND I HAVE DONE A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF RESEARCH AND, AND I HAVE ATTEMPTED TO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, AND I'M WAITING TO HEAR BACK.
SO IF THEY HAVEN'T GOT BACK TO ME, I'LL REACH OUT TOMORROW.
I JUST HAS A QUESTION, BECAUSE AGAIN, I, THE ONLY REASON I PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA IS I WANT TO PUT EVERYBODY ON THE SPOT.
YOU KNOW, I, I NOTIFIED THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY THAT LET'S NOT PUT OUR ACCOUNT ATTORNEY ON THE SPOT.
BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS, COULD WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TUESDAY AND SAY, WELL, LET, LET JOE WILL TELL US.
LET, WHAT HE DOES IS, JOE, SEE WHAT, YOU KNOW, IF THE, THE, UM, MANAGEMENT RESPONDS TO HIM, JOE AND, AND I WILL REACH BACK OUT TO THEM AND I CAN GIVE AN UPDATE TO YOU OVER THE NEXT WEEK.
AND THEN WE CAN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA IF NEED BE.
I MAY JUST ADD THAT I DID ASK, I DID SEND AN EMAIL TO THE TWO ATTORNEYS AT THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION WITH WHOM I WORKED.
ONE OF THEM VISITED THE SPOT AND IDENTIFIED THE VERY SPOT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT ACROSS THE WAY.
AND I THOUGHT IF THEY COULD ATTEND OR SOMEONE REPRESENTED, COULD ATTEND OR MAYBE BY ZOOM.
AND THE RESPONSE WAS SIMPLY THE, I HAVEN'T OPENED A NEW CASE.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO PENDING CASE IN FRONT OF THEM.
AND THEY DON'T, UH, THEY DON'T, UH, TESTIFY FOR INDIVIDUALS.
IN OTHER WORDS, THAT'S BEEN CLOSED.
SO IT WAS CLOSED SIMPLY BECAUSE THE RESPONDENTS, WHICH IS THE BOARD OF SCARSDALE COUNTRY STATES, SAID, WE, WE RECOGNIZE THE SPOT THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF.
AND THAT WAS RECOMMENDED BY THE, BUT IT'S NOT OURS.
AND THAT'S WHEN I STARTED ANEW MY EFFORTS WITH GREENVILLE.
SO AT THIS POINT, UM, THE ATTORNEY IS WORKING ON IT, WHICH IS GREAT.
AND HE WILL BE IN TOUCH TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE STATUS IS.
AND, UM, AND THEN WE, HE WILL LET US KNOW AS WELL.
JUST THAT WE, WE HAVE, ARE VERY EMPATHETIC TO THANK, THANK YOU AND CONCERN FOR YOU.
SO I JUST HOPE THAT WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING WITH THEM YES.
THAT THEY DON'T, UH, IT'S JUST BECAUSE I TOOK THAT ADVOCACY THINKING THAT THEY WERE IN CHARGE, YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE I DID A PARALLEL EFFORT HERE WITH, WITH THE POLICE AND SO FORTH, AND THEY SAID THEY WOULD DO A STUDY, A CASE, UH, REVIEW, STUDY OF IT, AND SO FORTH.
THEN THE FOLLOWING WINTER, I WROTE BACK AGAIN TO THE SERGEANT AND, UH, SAYING THAT I HAD TO PARK ACROSS THE STREET AND YOU HAVE TO CROSS CENTRAL AVENUE AND IT'S ICE.
AND I HAVE TO GO OUT AT SEVEN IN THE MORNING TO MOVE THE CAR.
YOU KNOW WHAT IT WAS? LET'S TAKE IT FROM THIS POINT.
WE KNOW WHERE YOU STAND AND, OKAY, THANK YOU.
AND WE ARE, BUT I, I DON'T WANT INTO, I DON'T THEM TO, UH, THIS
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ISSUE WOULD HARASSMENT IF I'M LOOKED UPON AS COMING TO YOU BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE CHARGING.THAT WAS NOT, I, YES, I AGREED.
I I I BELIEVE THIS WOULD HAVE BECOME AN ISSUE WE WOULD'VE HAD TO ADDRESS EVEN IF YOU WOULD NOT HAVE COME BEFORE US TONIGHT.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN AN ISSUE EITHER WAY.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT, BECAUSE I WAS WILLING, BUT I EXPECTED IT TO BE.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET IT DEFINITELY RESOLVED IN YOUR FAVOR, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S DISGRACEFUL THAT YOU DON'T GET A, A DESIGNATED SPOT.
AND I'D BE THE FIRST, IF YOU DON'T GET IT, THEN I'LL BE ORGANIZING A, A RALLY.
BUT THERE'S SOME COMPLICATIONS WITH THAT.
I MEAN, THAT, IT'S COMFORTING TO HEAR BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LONG JOURNEY.
BUT I I DON'T WANT TO GIVE YOU FALSE HOPE BECAUSE YES, IT IS TOWN PROPERTY.
I DON'T KNOW OF US EVER PUTTING UP A HANDICAP SPOT AND PUTTING A PERSON'S NAME ON IT.
SO NOBODY ELSE WHO HAS A HANDICAP, UH, WELL, IN PRIVATE RESIDENCE WAS DONE.
I, IT, IT'S A DESIGNATED HANDICAP SPOT BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO BE WITHIN A CERTAIN, UH, NUMBER OF FEET TO, TO YOUR GROUND LEVEL DOOR.
AND THAT'S, AND I'VE HAD THAT, I'VE HAD THAT WHEN I HAD MY OWN RESIDENCE.
BUT I HAD TO DOWNSIZE AND, UH, AND THIS WAS OF THE LAST 20 YEARS, RIGHT.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I'VE HAD TO MAKE A REQUEST AND WAS, AND EVERY THE SPOT WAS PERFECT FOR ME.
IT WAS JUST THE PARKING WASN'T THERE.
AND THE ADMISSIONS BOARD SEEMS TO, THERE SEEMS TO BE NO PROBLEM, BUT WE CAN, DETERMINATION CANNOT BE MADE BY US.
THE ADMISSIONS, THE BOARD WILL MAKE THAT DETERMINATION.
AND ALSO WE COULD, AS MURRAY SAID, WE COULD, UH, DESIGNATE A RESERVE SPOT FOR A LICENSE PLATE NUMBER.
WE'VE GOT EVEN A LICENSE PLATE.
MY LICENSE PLATE IS A PERMANENT HANDICAPPED LICENSE.
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD OTHER ISSUES BECAUSE EVERY YEAR I GET A COUPLE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DISABLED PARK, YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE THE SAME NEEDS.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT AS A, YOU KNOW, AS A TOWN POLICY, WE SHOULD BASICALLY BE ACCOMMODATING FOR RESIDENTS WHO HAVE DIS DISABILITIES AND NEED RESERVE PARKING ON TOWN STREETS BECAUSE IT'S SUCH A MAJOR QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERN FOR PEOPLE.
AND IT'S, TO ME, THIS IS WHAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE DOING.
WELL, YOU'VE COMMUNICATED THAT ALRIGHT.
I'M SORRY YOU TOOK SO MUCH TIME.
FOLLOW UP HAS TO BE RENEWED EVERY YEAR.
YOU SEE, YOU, YOU'RE ON A ROLL.
SO NOW WE HAVE A, UH, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY.
NO, YOU DON'T THAT YES, WE HAVE THAT QUICKER.
AND THEY'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT 1 72 NORTH SAW OVER ROAD.
CAN YOU TAKE IT OUTSIDE A LITTLE BIT? BECAUSE WITH YOU TALKING.
DO YOU THINK ANOTHER PERSON WILL BE SITTING TOO? I, WELL, I GUESS.
DON'T WANT BLOCK THE, ALRIGHT.
CAN I STAND DOWN AND TALK? YOU NEED A MICROPHONE? YOU NEED A MICROPHONE? NEED A MICROPHONE? YOU CAN STAND UP AND GO OVER THERE WITH IT IF YOU WANT.
UH, THANK YOU LADIES AND GENTLEMEN FOR HOLD THIS FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND PRESENT OUR, UH, NEW DESIGN.
UH, LET ME JUST TAKE YOU BACK.
WE, ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, YEAR TO A COUPLE OF MONTHS AFTER, OVER A YEAR WE WERE HERE, WE DID PRETTY MUCH THE SAME KIND OF DESIGN AND RENDERING.
UH, AT THAT TIME WE WERE LOOKING TO MAKE A HUNDRED UNIT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR, FOR SOME REASON.
UH, WE WAITED, WAITED, WE DIDN'T HEAR BACK FROM ANYBODY FROM THE RESIDENT OR ANYBODY ELSE.
THEN WE DECIDED TO CHANGE IT TO A MARKET RATE HOUSING WITHIN LOWER NUMBER OF UNIT.
WE CHANGE IT FROM A HUNDRED TO 60 PLUS OR MINUS.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT TODAY.
I'M SORRY, YOU, SO YOU CHANGED IT ALL TO MARKET RATE? YEAH.
THERE'S ALSO WOULD BE A CERTAIN NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS PER HOUR CODE.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY, UH, MEET THAT GOAL.
AND, UH, SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT.
AND AS WE GO, UH, YOU WANT TO CLICK, UH, THE FIRST
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SLIDE THAT WE SEE? PART OF THE, I'M SORRY, WAIT A MINUTE.DID YOU SAY THAT YOU, YOU, YOU ORIGINALLY WERE GONNA, IT WAS ORIGINALLY GONNA BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND YOU NEVER HEARD BACK FROM ANYONE? YEAH.
WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? WELL, I KEPT SENDING EMAIL, KEPT CALLING NOBODY FROM THE RESIDENCE OR EVEN HERE THERE WAS
I MEAN, I SPOKE TO PAUL AND GOT IT, BUT THAT'S ALL NORTH ELMSFORD, UH, TO THE, UH, THE, THE A A HUNDRED UNITS.
YOU KNOW, WE SENT, I SENT NOTICES TO PEOPLE.
I'M SAY MOST OF THE PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS TOO MANY UNITS AND TO A HUNDRED UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, IT WAS ORIGINALLY GONNA BE AFFORDABLE.
WAS WAS, WERE THEY OBJECTING TO THE NUMBER OF UNITS OR TO THE, THE FACT THAT IT WAS ALL AFFORDABLE? I THINK THE NUMBER OF UNITS.
WASN'T THAT, SORRY, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THAT BIG SELLING POINT LAST TIME WAS IT WAS GONNA BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, RIGHT? YEAH, RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S MIDDLE INCOME MARK, UH, RE MARKET RATE, MARKET RATE.
AND WE BELIEVE WE SPOKE TO GARY AND PAUL, UH, ONE OF OUR MEETING.
AND, UH, GARRETT WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEIGHT IN THE REAR END WHERE THE RESIDENTIAL, UH, IS.
IF YOU, IF YOU GO TO THE OTHER ONE RIGHT HERE, RIGHT, RIGHT.
GO BACK TO THE OTHER ONE RIGHT THERE.
BUT THE, THE, THE HEIGHT OF SOME OF THOSE RESIDENTIAL IMMEDIATELY, UH, ON THE REAR OF THIS PROPERTY, NORTH LAWN IS ABOUT THREE STORY HIGH.
AND SO WE DIS DECIDED DOCK, UH, THE ARCHITECT DECIDED TO LOWER THE NUMBER OF UNIT THAT WE HAVE IN THE BACKSIDE, BRING IT DOWN TO THREE LEVEL.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE RENDERING? MAYBE I CAN SHOW EVEN HERE.
WE, IF YOU LOOK AT HERE, WE ONLY KEPT THE HEIGHT IN THE REAR TWO, THREE STORY ONLY.
AND WE ARE STEPPING UP AS WE GO CLOSE TO ROUTE NINE A, WHICH IS A WAY FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
COULD YOU, YEAH, SO YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THAT.
SO BASICALLY, UH, THAT'S THE REVISED DESIGN THAT, UH, WE ARE HERE TO PRESENT.
IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GONNA HAVE IT'S OWN PARKING, IT'S GONNA HAVE ALL KIND OF AMENITY AND IT'S GOING TO BE ZERO CARBON EMISSION BUILDING, GREEN BUILDING.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ONLY ELECTRICITY TO TRY.
WHEN YOU SAYING GREEN BUILDING, YOU MEAN A LEAD PRETTY MUCH CLOSE TO A LEAD THAT CAN EXPLAIN THAT MOLD, BUT UH, YEAH, IT IS GOING TO BE, UH, GREEN CLOSE TO LEAD.
PLATINUM PGO LEGAL GO WITH, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED ON WHICH CATEGORY OF LEE.
UM, THERE'S THREE CATEGORIES, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE IT AFFORDABLE TOO, SO WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THAT.
BUT WE, EVEN ONE SCHEME, WE HAVE A POOL IN IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANNA PLAY THE VIDEO, BUT, UH, THE VIDEO WILL GIVE YOU A GOOD, UH, PICTURE.
WHAT WE DID WAS WE HAD, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE IT, UH, PLEASING.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEO, THERE'S A, UM, A GREEN IVY WALL THAT IS UP AGAINST, YOU KNOW, THE RESIDENTIAL AREA.
AND THEN IF YOU'VE BEEN TO THE BROOKLYN BOTANICAL GARDEN, WE HAVE A GARDEN WALL THAT'S INSIDE THAT'S GREEN, UH, FULL-TIME, SO THAT IT'S A PLEASING, UH, GREEN, UH, VIEW EVEN DURING THE DEAD OF WINTER.
UH, YOU GET A LITTLE GLIMPSE OF IT OVER HERE ON THAT SECOND PICTURE DOWN.
UM, THERE'S THE VIDEO, I THINK IT'S QUITE INTERESTING.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S THE POOL UP ON THE ROOF.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE AS, AS THE, AS THE HELICOPTER MOVES IN THE REAR, HOW IT STEPS DOWN.
AND THIS IS THE REAR AREA OF THE BUILDING, UH, WHICH IS ON THE OTHER, UH, STREET IN THE REAR.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IT IS.
SO THAT, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE, I'M APPEALING TO THE RESIDENTS, PARTICULARLY AS I SAID, IN THE DEAD OF WINTER.
AND THEN THERE'S, IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY, IT KIND OF FLASHED AWAY, BUT THERE'S GREEN IVY GROWING AROUND WHERE THE PARKING LOT, UH, IS.
AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT, UH, WILL SOFTEN, UM, AND BRING THE SCALE OF THE BUILDING DOWN.
BUT THERE'S THE GREEN IVY AS YOU GET INTO THE PARKING DECKS, THE TWO DECKS, YOU CAN SEE IT, UM, OFF TO, YOU KNOW, THE LEFT.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOLAR, UM, WHICH WILL BE APPLIED TO COMMON AREA SPACES.
WE, UH, BASED ON OUR COMPUTATIONS, WE SHOULD HAVE EXCESS, UH, THAT WE CAN THEN SEND TO THE GRID.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THE OWN, YOU KNOW, EACH, EACH TENANT'S GONNA HAVE THEIR OWN METERING, BUT, UH, BUT AT LEAST COMMON AREA, WHICH IS PARKING,
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GARAGE, UH, HALLWAYS, CORRIDORS.AND, UH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN INTO, YOU KNOW, THE NITTY GRITTY DETAIL.
YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE HAVE, UH, BATTERIES, YOU KNOW, BATTERY BACKUP, WHICH IS BEING USED, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFULLY.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE TO ABIDE BY THE NEW BUILDING CODES, WHICH, UM, THERE'S THE TWO METHODS, THE PRESCRIPTIVE AND THEN THE PERFORMANCE METHOD.
SO, UH, PROBABLY WE'LL GO WITH THE PERFORMANCE METHOD AND, AND THAT'S BEEN RATCHETED UP OVER THE YEARS.
THEN WE HAVE A GREEN ROOF, UH, WHICH REDUCES THE HEAT ISLAND EFFECT NORTH LAWN.
AND UH, AND THAT'S BEEN INCORPORATED IN MANY TOWNSHIPS.
NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, I KNOW NEW ROCHELLE MANDATES IT, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE GREEN ROOF, SO Y 60 UNITS AND WHY CAN'T IT BE AFFORDABLE? YOU MADE A BIG SELLING POINT LAST TIME REGARDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I PULLED UP THE PRESENTATION THAT YOU DID, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR AND IT WAS ALL ABOUT THE IMPORTANT NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND NOW YOU'RE COMING IN WITH ESSENTIALLY RE UH, MARKET RATE.
WELL, YOU, YOU'VE USED THE TERM AFFORDABLE TONIGHT AS WELL.
AND IN YOUR PRESENTATION ON ONE PAGE, IT'S DESCRIBED AS MIDDLE CLASS RENTAL APARTMENTS, AND THEN ANOTHER PAGE JUST DESCRIBED AS MODERN LUXURY RENTAL APARTMENTS AT MARKET RATE.
SO WHERE ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WHY CHANGE? WE'RE GOING FOR THE MARKET RATE ON THIS NEW DESIGN PLAN.
SEE, WE WAITED SUCH A LONG TIME TO HEAR BACK FROM, WHAT WERE YOU WAITING FOR US TO RESPOND TO, TO SEE IF WE CAN PROVE A HUNDRED UNIT OF AFFORDABLE? WELL, NO, WHAT WE WERE, WHAT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO DO IS TO TAKE A LOOK.
WE ASKED YOU TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS, UH, BUT YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO TAKE A LOOK AT HOW YOU COULD MINIMIZE THE IMPACT TO THE BACK.
WELL, THAT ISSUE WAS NEVER BROUGHT UP UNTIL WE DECIDED TO REVISE THE PLAN.
WE, WE REACH OUT, I REACH OUT BY EMAIL, BY PHONE CALL, THE NUMBER THAT I GOT FROM GAVIN AND PAUL TO THIS RESIDENT.
AND AS I SAID, THIS IS ABOUT A YEAR OVER A, OVER A YEAR AGO.
AND WE TRIED THAT, THIS THREE, FOUR MONTHS TO SEE IF WE CAN GET ANY KIND OF FEEDBACK.
BUT DID THAT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE UNITS BEING AFFORDABLE? DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T, DON'T SEE THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
SO THAT'S THE QUESTION IS FRANCIS'S QUESTION IS WHY THEN DID YOU CHANGE IT FROM BEING AFFORDABLE UNITS TO LUXURY RENTAL UNITS? WELL, I, THIS, I DON'T, I THOUGHT IT MORE FEASIBLE.
I THINK WHAT HAPPENED IS, I, I SENT, AFTER THE MEETING, I SENT NOTICES PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THAT AREA AND WE MUST HAVE GOT PROBABLY LIKE A HANDFUL, NOT A LOT, BUT A HANDFUL OF, UM, YOU KNOW, LETTERS, UM, UH, EMAIL SAYING THAT THEY THOUGHT IT WAS TOO MANY UNITS, THE A HUNDRED WAS TOO MUCH.
SO I GOT BACK, YOU KNOW, I GOT BACK TO YOU THEN YOU, FOR MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, AND YOU ASKED FOR A BUNCH OF MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE, YOU KNOW, NOBODY FOLLOWED.
NOBODY GOT, NOBODY GOT, AND YOU KNOW WHAT I COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I EMAILED THEM.
YOU EMAILED THEM, AND WE SAID, WE WANT TO HAVE A, MEET A DIALOGUE WITH THE COMMUNITY.
SO IT WOULD HAVE A SENSE FROM THE COMMUNITY WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED.
SO THEN I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, AFTER, UM, IF THEY DON'T WANT TO DO, IF THE COMM, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS SOME OFFICE, SOME OPPOSITION FROM RESIDENTS TO THE HUNDRED UNITS.
SO WHY DON'T YOU DO SOMETHING LESS THAT MIGHT BE MORE, UM, ACCEPTABLE TO THE, THE RESIDENTS? BECAUSE IT WAS ALL, THE ONLY ISSUE THAT PEOPLE HAD WAS THE TRAFFIC.
AND, AND I THINK YOU SAID TO ME AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO, UM, FEWER UNITS, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO, UM, UH, REDUCE IF WE, IF WE ARE NOT GONNA MAKE IT AFFORDABLE.
IF YOU DON'T WANT, IF YOU WANT FEWER UNITS, THEN WE WOULD'VE TO GOOD MARKET.
SO I SAID, WHY DON'T YOU THEN COME UP, COME UP WITH, UM, UH, ANOTHER PROPOSAL.
WE, PAUL, WE HAD, WE HAD THIS FINANCIAL ADVISOR WITH US THAT CALCULATED THE NUMBER OF UNITS YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO MEET WITH THE BOARD FOR, FOR AT LEAST A YEAR TRYING TO MEET WITH WHO, WHAT BOARD YOU, WE'VE BEEN TRYING SEPTEMBER.
JOE, WHO DID THEY TALK TO? WHO DID THEY ASK TO MEET? WE'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN EMAILING THE BOARD.
YOU, I, WE HAVE, I HAVE EMAIL GOING WITH ME AND PAUL BACK AND JUST PUT IT ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE HOW MANY TIMES? AT LEAST 10 TIMES.
LET, LET ME MAYBE JUST BACK UP A TADD AND JUST KIND OF LET YOU KNOW WHERE I'M AT FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE AND, AND I'D LIKE SOME FEEDBACK FROM THE BOARD.
UM, THIS SITE EXISTS WITH MULTIFAMILY ON IT.
I THINK THAT IS A SIGNIFICANT FACTOR, UM, THAT GIVES AN OPENING TO THE TOWN BOARD TO CONSIDER A REZONE TO ALLOW MULTIFAMILY.
SO I'M DISTINCT DISTINGUISHING THIS SITE FROM OTHERS ON THE CORRIDOR THAT DON'T
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HAVE MULTIFAMILY.SO IF SOMEONE JUST RANDOMLY CAME INTO THE TOWN AND SAID, HEY, I WANNA DO, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING LIKE THIS ON MY PROPERTY AND I HAVE COMMERCIAL, UM, I DON'T THINK THE BOARD WOULD BE WARRANTED TO REZONE IN THAT EXAMPLE, TO AN M DISTRICT TO ALLOW MULTIFAMILY FOR THAT ONE PROPERTY, THAT ONE PROPERTY OWNER.
I THINK THAT WOULD, I WOULD HAVE CONCERNS OVER SPOT ZONING.
I DON'T HAVE THOSE CONCERNS ON THIS INSTANCE BECAUSE THE SITE EXISTS WITH MULTIFAMILY.
SO THAT THRESHOLD I DO FEEL LIKE IS, IS PASSED FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN PERSPECTIVE AND WHATNOT.
NOW, UM, IF YOU ACCEPT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THE CONCEPT AND THAT FROM A PLANNING LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, THERE COULD BE A REZONING, IT REALLY THEN COMES DOWN TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU DEEM ACCEPTABLE FROM, UH, A DENSITY PERSPECTIVE.
SO CLEARLY, UM, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME YOU PRESENTED, I, YOU KNOW, I DEFINITELY HEARD CONCERNS FROM THE BOARD THAT THE MASSING AND SCALE OF THE BUILDING WAS SO LARGE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T SOMETHING THAT WAS IN THE REALM OF POSSIBILITY FROM THE BOARD.
THAT'S WHAT I PICKED UP AT THE LAST MEETING.
YOU'RE NOW, AND THIS DOESN'T LOOK ANY DIFFERENT.
YOU'RE NOW COMING IN, I THINK YOU'VE INDICATED THAT TO THE REAR, YOU'VE SCALED IT DOWN.
THIS, WE SCALED IT DOWN IN THE REAR PART.
IT WAS SEVEN ON THE PREVIOUS ONE.
THIS WE STEP DOWN AND WE TRY TO BE UN ACCOMMODATIVE.
WE ALL KNOW ABOUT INFLATION SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN ECONOMY OF SCALE.
SO, SO WE CONTINUE, IF I COULD CONTINUE
UM, NUMBER ONE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS HERE, BUT AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, YOU WILL WANNA BE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SCALE.
SO, UM, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IS A STARTING POINT AND THEN COULD LAUNCH INTO A PROCESS AND MAYBE IT WILL GET SCALED BACK FURTHER WHEN THERE'S MORE FORMAL NOTIFICATIONS TO NEIGHBORS.
BUT REGARDLESS IF, IF YOU FEEL THAT THIS SCALE'S INAPPROPRIATE, YOU KNOW, YOU CERTAINLY WOULD WANT TO CONVEY THAT.
NOW IT'S HARD TO JUDGE WITH IN THE ABSENCE OF ANY CONTIGUOUS BUILDINGS WITHIN THE, WELL THEY, THE WHITE, TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT SCALED, UM, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO TO THE REAR, THE WHITE REPRESENTS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
I THINK IT'S ABSENT, BUT THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UM, SINGLE STORY.
STRIP COMMERCIAL FRONT, MOSTLY COMMERCIAL.
THERE'S A, YEAH, THERE'S A SLIDE THAT SHOWS SOME BIG HOUSES.
BUT JUST, JUST TO GO ON TO A COUPLE OTHER PLANNING CONCEPTS, WHICH I THINK ARE VERY IMPORTANT.
SO CERTAINLY SCALE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER IS, IS A BIG FACTOR, RIGHT? YOU WANNA HAVE SOME LEVEL OF THERE.
AND THIS IS STARTING AT 10 APARTMENT UNITS, RIGHT? WHAT'S THE EXISTING NUMBER OF UNITS NOW? RIGHT NOW IT'S EIGHT RIGHT NOW.
AND SOME OF THOSE WERE PUT IN WITHOUT PERMITS, RIGHT? NO, THEY ALL ARE PERMITTED, ALL LEGAL.
THEY ARE NOW, BUT THEY, I THINK RIGHT NOW THEY'RE, THERE'S 2010, THERE'S A LONG HISTORY OF VIOLATIONS ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND YOU KNOW, THAT WAS BEFORE 2010.
RIGHT? BUT YOU WERE THE OLDER BEFORE 2010, CORRECT? YES, EXACTLY RIGHT.
SO, SO THERE'S A HISTORY HERE OF NON-COMPLIANCE.
WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS INSTEAD OF CHANGING IT FROM, FROM AFFORDABLE TO MARKET RATE BY KEEPING THE BULK, IS TO ADDRESS THE BULK, UH, WHICH WAS WHAT A CONCERN, RIGHT? YOU CAN SEE IT, IT'S, IT'S ENORMOUS COMPARED TO WHAT'S NEXT TO IT.
TO GO FROM WHAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE, WHICH IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'RE SHOWING US PICTURES IS TO SHOW THAT LOOK, THERE'S A DILAPIDATED, UGLY, UNA UNATTRACTIVE BUILDING RIGHT TO THIS.
AND IF YOU'RE TRYING TO TELL ME THAT YOU HAVE TO BUILD THIS TO GET SOME KIND OF A REASONABLE RETURN ON YOUR PROPERTY, WHICH IS IN TERRIBLE STATE OF DISREPAIR, UM, I'M NOT BUYING IT.
AND UNLESS YOU SHARE HOW THAT'S THE CASE, UH, I'M NOT BUYING IT IN ORDER TO DO THIS AFFORDABLE FOR A HUNDRED UNIT IS THE MINIMUM THAT THE RETURN IS GOING TO BE PAID OFF FOR A SHORTER PERIOD OF TIME.
THAT'S WHY WE DID SOME CALCULATION WHEN WE CAME IN TO PRESENT THE HUNTED UNIT AFFORDABLE SHARE.
DID YOU SHARE THOSE CALCULATIONS WITH ANYBODY WITH THE TOWN? WELL, I BELIEVE AT THAT TIME WE BROUGHT IT IN, UH, WITHOUT THE MEETING.
IT'S IN THE PRESENTATION AND THEN WE HIRED THIS GIRL, UM, RESNER, I'M SORRY, RESNER GA YEAH.
WE HIRED THEM TO DO THAT CALCULATION FOR US AND THAT'S THE NUMBER THEY CAME UP WITH.
I MEAN, IF IT'S 98 IS OKAY, BUT ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT NUMBER IS JUST NOT FEASIBLE.
I MEAN, FEASIBLE FINANCIALLY, IT'S GONNA TAKE FOREVER TO.
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OTHER THINGS, IF I COULD CONTINUE ON.THE BOARD DOES HAVE SOME SCALE OF REFERENCE WITH OTHER EXAMPLES IN THE TOWN.
SO FOR EXISTENCE, DRUM MOORE ROAD, UH, 45 UNITS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ACQUISITION COST WAS COMPARABLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE EXISTING PROVIDER THAT YOU REACHED OUT TO THAT MAYBE WORKS IN A LARGER ECONOMY OF SCALE OR, OR MAYBE THE CLIMATE IS NOW THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE, THE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT DOES REQUIRE MORE SCALE THAN AT LEAST THIS PROJECT, BUT THE BOARD IS AWARE OF A 45 UNIT PROJECT THAT KIND OF HIT THESE NUMBERS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, 45 IS LESS THAN MUCH LESS THAN A HUNDRED.
SO JUST TO CLOSE OUT MY
UM, SO YES, RIGHT, SO THERE'S EIGHT EXISTING, UM, YOU'RE SEEING 60 ULTIMATELY THE, UM, AFFORDABILITY VERSUS, UM, MARKET RATE AND ALWAYS KNOW THAT 10% WILL BE THERE.
SO IT'S EITHER MARKET RATE WITH 10% OR A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE.
UM, BECAUSE YOU WILL, YOU WILL BE SEEKING A REZONING TO ENABLE THIS.
THE CURRENT CP CB DISTRICT DOES NOT ENABLE IT.
SO MEANING IF THE BOARD FEELS THAT THERE IS SOME LIKE SCALING AND MASSING THAT YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, BUT YOU FEEL SO STRONGLY THAT YOU WOULD ONLY WANT TO GO FROM EIGHT TO, AND I'LL JUST SAY BETWEEN 50 AND 60 AS AN EXAMPLE, IF IT WERE AFFORDABLE, IF THE AFFORDABLE WAS THAT IMPORTANT TO YOU, AND I UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH, HOW IMPORTANT AFFORDABILITY IS TO THE BOARD, IF THAT WERE YOUR PERSPECTIVE, YOU WOULD BE WELL WITHIN YOUR RIGHT TO SAY WE WOULD FEEL APTT TO APPROVE A MULTI-FAMILY BUILDING AT A SCALE THAT WE WERE COMFORTABLE WITH IF IT WERE A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD REALLY HAVE MAKE YOU PUT YOU IN A POSITION TO TAKE A HARD LOOK TO, YOU KNOW, REALLY GO AROUND TO OTHER AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROVIDERS AND SAY, LISTEN, I JUST MET WITH THE TOWN BOARD THEY FELT COMFORTABLE WITH, YOU KNOW, A SMALLER BUILDING, YOU KNOW, CAN WE WORK WITHIN THAT? AND IF YOU CAN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, THEN THAT WOULD BE WITHIN YOUR DISCRETION TO SAY, UM, IF YOU FELT COMFORTABLE WITH A MODEST, UM, MARKET RATE BUILDING, WHICH WOULD GET 10% AFFORDABLE, THAT'S OKAY TOO.
UM, IT'S ALL PREFERENCES IS YOU HAVE THE DISCRETION, YOU KNOW? OKAY.
AND YOU MAY SAY WE COULD GO FOR A LITTLE EXTRA DENSITY IF IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT AFFORDABLE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE SUPPORT THE CONCEPT OF MORE AFFORDABILITY.
YOU REALLY HAVE THAT DISCRETION, BUT YEAH, TRAFFIC'S IMPORTANT.
YOU KNOW, THE, THE THAT I HIRED TO RAN THOSE NUMBER FOR ME, SHE WAS WORKING FOR A COUNTY AFFORDABLE, THE COUNTY AND THE STATE AFFORDABILITY UNIT, AND SHE CAME UP WITH THAT NUMBER BASED ON THE DESCRIPTION THAT WE SHOW AND THE DESIGN WILL SHOW AT THAT TIME.
AND ANYTHING LESS THAN THAT, IF NOT, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE.
WELL, ANOTHER ONE OTHER OPTION PERHAPS IS HAVING A GREATER NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, UNITS GREATER THAN THE 10% MAYBE.
OH, ANOTHER WAY TO LOOK AT IT PERHAPS.
WELL, AGAIN, ALL AT THE, AT THE END OF EVERYTHING COME DOWN THE MONEY AND THE PROFIT AFTER YOU DECIDE TO DO GO FORWARD WITH SOMETHING, YOU WANT TO ADD ANOTHER 5% TO.
IF I GET A 60 URINE I ADD INSTEAD OF 10, I GIVE 50 PER 15%, 5%.
BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CUT IT TO HALF AND HALF, WHAT ABOUT A MIXED USE? UH, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT DOESN'T WORK.
ANOTHER, ANOTHER QUESTION I HAD IS, UM, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO SEE IF, IF FROM A GOOGLE MAP, IF SOMEBODY HAS A COMPUTER, SORT OF LIKE THE VISUAL OF, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE AREA? BECAUSE I KNOW SOMO RIVER ROAD IS NOT KNOWN AS, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PARIS OF, UH, OF, UM, OF, YOU KNOW, OF GREEN BUREAU OF NEW YORK STATE.
AND I THINK THAT PEOPLE SAW THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE LINEUP AND LET'S SAY WE BUILD, UM, APPROVE SOME, YOU KNOW, QUALITY, YOU KNOW, HOUSING.
I'M WONDERING IF OVER A PERIOD OF TIME WE COULD SORT OF CHANGE THE WHOLE LOOK OF THAT WHOLE STRIP AND MAKE IT UPSCALE AND UH, MORE ATTRACTIVE AND MORE GREEN.
SO I'M VALENTINA AS A GUINEA PIG TO PUT THIS OUT THERE.
THE NEXT ONE IS GOING BE THIS EMPTY LOT RIGHT HERE, WHICH IS IN ELMSFORD.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE TO COME RIGHT? BECAUSE I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, MY WIFE, HOW IS THAT ZONED TOLD ME SHE LIVED IN, HOW IS DISTRICT ZONED THE AIR SAMS CLUB? AND SHE SAID WHEN SHE LIVED THERE, I'M SURE I DON'T, YEARS AGO, SHE SAYS IT WAS UGLY DOWN CANAL AND IT'S UGLY NOW.
AND, AND UM, AND, AND IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF WE COULD CHANGE THE LOOK OF THAT.
IT DOESN'T TAKE SOMETHING OF THAT SIZE.
NO, I'M SAYING, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT WE FROM LIKE, WHEN I WENT
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TO FORD OF MY MAJORS IN URBAN STUDIES AND I, SO I WAS ALWAYS INTERESTED IN PLANNING AND I FEEL THAT IF WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR GOALS IS TO, UM, OVER A PERIOD OF JUST LIKE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FOUR CORNERS IN VILLE NOW BECAUSE SAY OUR GOAL IS TO EVENTUALLY TRANSFORM THE LOOK OF SOIL RIVER ROAD, SO, WE'LL, IT WILL BE ATTRACTIVE, MORE INVITING, UH, YOU HAVE PEOPLE LIVING, YOU GOTTA DO MORE OF THESE.PAUL, YOU GOTTA DO MORE OF THESE IN ORDER TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE.
I'VE BEEN THERE RUNNING THIS SHOW FOR OVER 40, AS YOU SAID, I'VE BEEN HERE FOR SINCE 1986.
NOBODY HAS BUILT ANYTHING FROM THAT AREA THAT I CAN SEE ONE PERSON, YOU REALLY NEED TO GET TO OUR EXECUTIVE SESSION, EVERYBODY, BECAUSE WE'RE PAYING OUTSIDE CONSULTANTS BY THE HOUR WHILE WE NO, BUT LET ME JUST, LET ME JUST ASK YOU A, A QUESTION AND COULD WE, NOBODY COULD, COULD ANYBODY PICK UP, LIKE SAY THE, I'M JUST CURIOUS IF WE COULD JUST TAKE A A FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING THIS LIKE A GOOGLE A LOOK AT SORT OF THE, UH, THE WAY THE WHOLE STRIP, YOU KNOW, NEAR THIS AREA LOOKS, SO THIS WAY EVERYBODY WILL HAVE A BETTER IDEA.
FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR, YOU KNOW, HOW IT LOOKS, WHAT'S NEXT? CAN WE, SO WHY DON'T WE HAVE, YEAH, ANOTHER DISCUSSION SINCE WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN DIGEST THIS.
SO THEN QUESTION IS CASE WE DO 50% AFFORDABLE AND IT, I MEAN THAT'S ONE OPTION.
ANYBODY 60 UNIT 15% AFFORDABLE, 50.
HOW DO, HOW ARE YOU COMING UP WITH THOSE NUMBERS? I'M JUST TOYING THE NUMBERS EXACTLY.
AND YOU, AND WHAT IS IT YOU'RE, HOW MUCH PROFIT ARE YOU TRYING TO MAKE OVER WHAT YOU HAVE NOW THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO EXPOSE THE NEIGHBORS BEHIND THAT BUILDING TO THAT HEIGHT TO HERE? WELL THIS ONE IS GONNA BE THE SAME HEIGHT AS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, SAME HEIGHT.
IF YOU COULD LOOK AT THE PICTURE UP THERE.
IS THIS BUILDING ANY LOWER THAN WHAT YOU SHOWED US LAST YEAR? THE REAR FOUR STORIES ONLY IN THE REAR.
LOOK AT THE PICTURE OF THE HOUSE BEHIND YOU.
IT'S ACTUALLY TALLER THAN THIS.
SO IF YOU REALLY WALK THAT STREET, YOU'LL SEE THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA BE ANY TALLER.
YOU SCHWARTZ, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LITTLE COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN WORKING ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND YOU KNOW, HOUSING AND THEY'RE GONNA BE MEETING WITH THE TOWN BOARD ON MAY 2ND AND HE'S THE HEAD OF THE PLANNING BOARD AND THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE WORKING.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO MEET WITH THAT COMMITTEE AND YOU KNOW, TO DISCU, YOU KNOW, HAVE LIKE A, BECAUSE THEIR GOAL, THEY HAVE ONE GOAL.
THE GOAL IS TO, UH, COME UP WITH HOUSING, UH, PROPOSALS THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD BE ACCEPTED BY THE COMMUNITY.
SO MAYBE IF YOU MEET WITH THEM, UH, AND, AND YOU HAVE A DIALOG, LIKE A WORKING DIALOGUE WITH THEM, THEN THEY COULD COME UP WITH, THEY COULD WORK WITH YOU.
YOU COULD COME UP WITH A, A PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, COMPROMISE THAT EVERYBODY WOULD THINK IS, UH, IS DOABLE.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER THE MAYOR OF ELMSFORD SAID, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO HE SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AN EYESORE.
WE'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING DONE ON THIS PROPERTY.
SO IF WE HAVE THAT COMMITTEE WORKING WITH YOU, MAYBE THEY'LL COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S, THAT, YOU KNOW, FRANCIS WILL LIKE AND EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD WILL LIKE, AND THEN WE CAN GET THIS MOVING.
I, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'LL BE ABLE TO COME UP WITH LIKE A CONSENSUS AND, AND AT, AND COME UP WITH SOME SOMETHING.
BECAUSE THE WORST THING IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT THIS EYESORE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT IS, OH, I HAVE SHOWN THIS TO MAYOR ALSO.
HE LOVED IT FROM ME EVEN THOUGH HE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THIS, UH, PRESENTATION.
I THINK, I THINK LET'S, LET'S HAVE, LET'S REFER TO, UH, YOU SCHWARTZ'S COMMITTEE AND YOU KNOW DAN AND YOU KNOW THAT COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN MEETING, THEY'RE MEETING WITH US MAY 2ND.
YOU ASKED THEM TO MEET AND THIS IS, THIS IS A LIE.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEIR GOAL IS WE WANT TO GET HOUSING BOLT.
SO HERE YOU HAVE A PROPOSAL, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE PROPOSALS.
OKAY, WELL THEN BE VERY CLEAR.
THIS IS NOT THE PROPOSAL FROM LAST YEAR.
NO, BUT YEAH, BUT IT'S, AND IT STILL HAS PROPOSED DISCUSSION SAYING THAT INVITE US, LET US ATTEND THAT.
SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH IT.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE ARE WANTING.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, UH, DRAFT NUMBER TWO.
SO THEN YOU'LL HAVE THE DISCUSSION WITH THAT COMMITTEE.
WE'LL, THEY'LL SEE IF THEY COULD WORK IT OUT, THEN THEY COULD COME BACK TO US AND YOU COME AND YOU WORK OUT AND SAY WE COULD DO THESE NU NUMBER OF UNITS.
THIS WOULD BE THE HEIGHT FROM A PLANNING, UH, BOARD STANDPOINT.
THIS SOMETHING THAT WE THINK WE COULD LIVE WITH.
AND UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND THEN HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD REACH OUT TO THE NEIGHBORS AND GET EVERYBODY TO UM, GET, YOU KNOW, TO BUY INTO IT.
AND THEN HOPEFULLY SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE TOWN WILL HAPPEN.
I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD SOMETHING REAL QUICK.
UM, I JUST, WE JUST OPENED FOR SUGGESTIONS.
THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS
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SOME SORT OF AGREEMENT.I'M GETTING, WE'VE BEEN TRYING, WE'VE BEEN
SO BEFORE, UH, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING FROM YOU GUYS FOR ABOUT A YEAR AND THINGS WERE, I EVEN TOLD MY HUSBAND, LET'S SELL IT JUST LIKE THAT.
CLOSE YOUR EYES, FIX A LITTLE BIT AND SELL IT.
THIS PLACE WILL BE THERE FOR ANOTHER 50 YEARS.
NO, BUT WE'RE GONNA, WE ARE TRYING TO DO THIS SO WE CAN CHANGE THIS AROUND.
WELL WE HAVE THAT COMMITTEE MAY 2ND.
WE WANNA A WIN-WIN SITUATION FOR EVERYBODY.
WE WANNA PUT IT DOWN FOR BEAUTIFUL.
WE ARE GONNA START, WELL WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT, WALK A LITTLE BIT FAST WITH THIS THING.
I JUST, SHE JUST SAID YOU ARE NOT, I'M NOT GETTING LONGER, YOU KNOW, BUT I WANT, I WANNA BUILD THIS, I WANNA BUILD THIS.
NO, I, I THINK WE'LL KIND TAKE IT FROM HERE AND SET SOMETHING UP.
WE NEED THE EXECUTIVE SECTION AND WE NEED A JOGGING TRAIL FOR THEM.
I MEAN, SO PAUL, THE NEXT WE WOULD FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU.
I CAME WITH AN IDEA OF AFFORDABLE BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TALKING TO A, WE'RE PAYING LAWYERS EVERYBODY BY THE HOURS, SIX O'CLOCK.
I JUST AM REALLY EXCITED ABOUT, UH, REACHING AN AGREEMENT WITH EVERYBODY AND DOING WHAT'S GREAT AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S GREAT, AS KEN SAID THAT YOU'RE FLEXIBLE AND WE ARE AND OPEN TO, UH, DIALOGUE AND COMPROMISE.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN.
YOU HAVE A MOTION, PAUL INVITATION.
YOU WISE PAUL, YOU HAVE A MOTION? OH YES.
PRONOUNCE YOU'LL WORK WITH DEREK.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF, UM, DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS AND TO INTERVIEW SOMEBODY FOR COMMITTEE SECOND.
AND WE WON'T BE COMING BACK TODAY, BUT WE WILL BE BACK TOMORROW NIGHT.