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OKAY, SO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO, UH, THE GREENBERG, UH, TOWN BOARD MEETING.
TODAY IS APRIL 12TH AT SEVEN 30, UM, PM WELL, ALMOST 7:30 PM AND, UM, I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYBODY TO, UH, THE MEETING.
UM, I'D ALSO LIKE TO, UH, THEN COUNCILWOMAN, UH, GINA JACKSON FOR, UH, SHE HAD A LITTLE COLD YESTERDAY AND IS BEING RESPECTFUL OF EVERYBODY AND MEETING BY ZOOM FROM, SHE'S IN THE BACK THERE, BUT DOESN'T WANT ANYBODY TO GET SICK.
SO WE REALLY THANK HER FOR, UH, FOR HER SENSITIVITY.
UM, AND, UM, NEXT, UH, WE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA DO THE PLEDGE
[ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
OF ALLEGIANCE, ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TO THE PUBLIC, OUR NATION TO GOD, INDIVIDUAL LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.[ MOMENT OF SILENCE In memory of Bill Lawyer, who will be appreciated for generations to come thanks to Bill's decades of hard work, innovative leadership and dedication to a more sustainable planet. The Greenburgh Nature Center and the Town of Greenburgh will always be grateful to Bill for his efforts. He has left a legacy that will be forever remembered. In memory of Jim Brennan, a lifelong resident of the Village of Irvington, who was drafted into the Army in 1966 where he spent 1 year in 'state side duty" and 13 months as a Vietnam Medic. He later worked for the NY Telephone/AT&T/Lucent Technologies and retired in 2000. Jim then took his favorite job al all, working for the Irvington Police Department as its Parking Enforcement Officer. He was a member of the Irvington Fire Department for 50 years, 6 of them as Chief. He also belonged to the Irvington Ambulance Corps for 23 years and received a Lifesaving Award in 2008. He served as Recreation Commissioner in the Recreation Department for 20 plus years, 18 as Chairman. Jim also served on the Village Vietnam Veterans Memorial Committee and helped research all the names honored there. The walls in his home are filled with awards he earned over the years. In memory of the people in Ukraine killed during Russia's invasion and relentless intentional targeted bombing of civilians in apartment buildings, hospitals, train stations, schools and children centers, deliberating targeting utilities used by civilians to leave them without electricity and heat through the brutal winter weather, with mass graves being found after invaded areas have been retaken, all in Russia's effort to destroy Ukraine and its people, who are forced to fight for their land, their freedom, and general democratic principles. May they rest in peace and peace be restored to Ukraine]
A MOMENT OF SILENCE AND MEMORY OF, UH, BILL LAWYER, UH, WHO WILL BE APPRECIATED FOR GENERATIONS, UM, TO COME.THANKS TO BILL'S DECADES OF HARD WORK, INNOVATIVE LEADERSHIP, AND DEDICATION TO A MORE SUSTAINABLE PLANET.
UH, WE HAVE THE GREENBERG, UH, NATURE CENTER AND THE TOWN OF GREENBERG WILL ALWAYS BE GRATEFUL TO BILL FOR HIS EFFORTS.
HE LEFT A LEGACY THAT WILL BE REMEMBERED, UM, BY, UM, PEOPLE FOR GENERATIONS TO COME.
AND WE ALSO HAVE, UM, A MOMENT OF SILENCE IN MEMORY OF JIM BRENNAN, WHO'S A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF THE VILLAGE OF IRVINGTON, WHO WAS DRAFTED IN THE ARMY IN 1966.
HE SPENT ONE YEAR IN STATESIDE DUTY AND 13 MONTHS AS A VIETNAM MEDIC.
HE LATER WORKED FOR THE NEW YORK TELEPHONE AT AND T LOOSENED TECHNOLOGIES, AND RETIRED IN 2000.
JIM, UH, THEN TOOK HIS FAVORITE JOB AT ALL WORKING FOR THE IRVINGTON POLICE DEPARTMENT AS A PARKING ENFORCEMENT OFFICER.
HE WAS A MEMBER OF THE IRVINGTON FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR 50 YEARS, AND SIX OF THEM AS CHIEF.
HE ALSO BELONGED TO THE IRVINGTON AMBULANCE CORPS FOR 23 YEARS AND RECEIVED A LIFETIME SAVING AWARD IN 2008.
HE SERVED AS RECREATION COMMISSIONER AND THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT FOR 20 PLUS YEARS, 18 AS CHAIR, AND HE SERVED, UH, ON THE VILLAGE VIETNAM VETERANS MEMORIAL COMMITTEE AND HELPED, UM, RESEARCH ALL THE NAMES HONORED THERE.
THE WALLS IN HIS HOME WERE FILLED WITH AWARDS THAT HE EARNED OVER THE YEARS.
AND FINALLY, WE HAVE A MOMENT OF BEFORE YOU GO ON.
UM, SADLY, WE FOUND OUT THIS AFTERNOON THAT WE LOST PATSY ELLO.
HE DIED PEACEFULLY TODAY SURROUNDED BY FAMILY.
PATSY RETIRED AS A GENERAL FOREMAN FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT IN 2003 AFTER A 37 YEAR CAREER.
HE WORKED FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS, UH, AFTER HE RETIRED FROM THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT, AND HE WAS A PART-TIME DRIVER FOR THE NUTRITION PRO DEPARTMENT, DELIVERING MEALS FOR SENIOR CITIZENS.
UM, HIS TWO SONS, MIKE AND GARY ELLO, PRESENTLY BOTH WORK FOR D P W, MIKE FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT, AND GARY FOR THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT.
LAST ONE, AND A MEMORY OF THE PEOPLE IN UKRAINE KILLED DURING RUSSIA'S INVASION, A RELENTLESS, INTENTIONAL, TARGETED BOMBING OF CIVILIANS IN APARTMENT BUILDINGS, HOSPITALS, TRAIN STATION SCHOOLS, AND CHILDREN'S CENTERS, DELIBERATING TARGETING UTILITIES USED BY CIVILIANS TO LEAD THEM WITHOUT ELECTRICITY AND HEAT THROUGH THE BRUTAL WINTER WEATHER WITH MASS GRAVES BEING FOUND AFTER INVADED.
AREAS HAVE BEEN RETAKEN, ALL IN RUSSIA'S EFFORT TO, UH, DESTROY UKRAINE.
AND AS PEOPLE WHO ARE FORCED TO FIGHT FOR THEIR LAND, THEIR FREEDOM AND GENERAL DEMOCRATIC PRINCIPLES, MAY THEY REST IN PEACE.
AND, UH, I COULD DO THE I'LL CALL SUPERVISOR.
[ ROLL CALL: Town Clerk]
OKAY.COUNCIL MEMBER HENDRICKS PRESENT.
COUNCIL MEMBER JACKSON PRESENT.
INTERIM TOWN ATTORNEY JOE DANKO.
[ PRESENTATIONS Disabled American Veterans - Bill Aguilar, Commander (10 minutes) Presentation of Proclamation - Ivy Darling’s 100th Birthday Sunil Shukla - Teen Task Force Fundraiser on April 14, 2023 in Ardsley - A New Community Garden at the Theodore D. Young Community Center (5 Minutes) Donation of Reflective of Arm Bands Amy Ferraro Martin/Community Relations - Phelps Hospital (5 Minutes) Daniel Marcy/Director, Government and Community Relations - Westchester Medical Center (5 Minutes) Dawn French/Senior VP, Marketing & Community Outreach - White Plains Hospital (5 Minutes) Central Park Avenue/ Lawton Avenue HAWK Light Operation]
UM, SEE BILL AGUILAR.[00:05:01]
AND, UM, THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD ARE, UM, SIGNING, UM, THE PROCLAMATION FOR IVY, UM, DARLING'S HUNDREDTH BIRTHDAY.SO, WE'LL, WE WILL WAIT UNTIL, UM, THEY SIGN IS SUNO SHUKLA HERE.
SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO RECOGNIZE, UM, UM, UH, THREE OUTSTANDING, UM, MEDICAL CENTERS, UH, PHELPS HOSPITAL, WESTCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER, AND WHITE PLAINS HOSPITAL FOR, UM, DONATING REFLECTORS, UM, UH, TO THE, TO THE TOWN.
SO WE CAN MAKE PEDESTRIANS, UM, SAFER WHEN WALKING MANY PEOPLE, UH, AT NIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU MAY SEE SOMEBODY WALKING ON THE ROAD AND YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.
UM, AND WE'VE HAD PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES OVER THE YEARS.
SO THE GOAL IS TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.
AND, UM, THESE HOSPITALS ARE, UM, UM, INSTEAD OF TRYING TO GET MORE BUSINESS, UH, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET LESS BUSINESS BY KEEPING PEOPLE HEALTHY AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND SAFE.
AND, UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK THE POLICE CHIEF TO SAY A FEW WORDS BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY VERY EXCITING.
AND THEN WE WILL HONOR THE HOSPITALS.
I KNOW I'M WALKING UP HERE WITH A LOT OF PAPER, BUT I WILL BE BRIEF.
SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT STARTED THE WALK SAFE GREENBERG CAMPAIGN, UM, WHICH WAS AN EFFORT TO INCREASE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AWARENESS.
UM, WHAT THE DEPARTMENT DID WAS WE STARTED TO SECURE REFLECTIVE BRACELETS AND DISTRIBUTE THEM TO SOME OF THE SCHOOLS IN GREENBURG.
THE, UM, OUR BC IN GREENBURG CAMPAIGN IS A CONTINUATION OF WALK SAFE, AND WE'VE PARTNERED WITH SEVERAL AREA HOSPITALS FOR DONATIONS OF REFLECTIVE BRACELETS AND BANDS, WHICH ARE TRAFFIC UNIT AND COMMUNITY POLICE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN GIVING OUT AT OUR LOCAL SCHOOLS.
WE'LL ALSO BE SUPPLYING THEM TO OUR PATROL OFFICERS SO THAT THEY CAN OFFER THEM THE RESIDENCE WHEN THEY SEE THEM OUT WALKING, EITHER EARLY IN THE MORNING OR LATE AT NIGHT AT DAWN, OR AT DUSK, UM, WALKING IN LOW LIGHT.
SO, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO THANK THE WESTCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER, WHITE PLAINS HOSPITAL, AND PHELPS NORTHWELL HEALTH FOR THEIR DONATIONS, THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS, THEIR ENERGY, AND, UM, JUST HELPING THIS PROGRAM WORK.
I'LL NOW TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE SUPERVISOR.
AND WE'VE BEEN GIVING OUT, UM, THOUSANDS OF, UH, REFLECTORS OVER THE YEARS.
UM, WE HAVE REFLECTORS AT THE, UH, THE LOBBY.
AND JUST YESTERDAY, UM, I ASKED THE HEAD OF AIR TRAFFIC SAFETY, YOU KNOW, WE RAN OUT AND WE JUST HAD A, A QUICK, UH, RESUPPLY SO PEOPLE REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, THE REFLECTORS AND, UM, THEY APPRECIATE, UM, THE FACT THAT WE, THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT EVERYBODY'S, UM, FOLDER, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SAFETY.
AND I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOW WILL BE STOPPING PEOPLE, UM, AND GIVING OUT THE REFLECTORS WHEN THEY SEE A PEDESTRIAN.
I THINK THAT WILL, THAT PERSON WILL NEVER BE CARELESS, UH, AFTER, AFTER THIS INITIATIVE.
BUT I'D LIKE TO, UM, UH, UM, ASK, FIRST OF ALL, I, I WANNA MENTION HOW IMPRESSED I AM WITH THE DEDICATION OF THE STAFF OF ALL THREE MEDICAL CENTERS.
YOU KNOW, I REALLY FEEL THAT, UM, YOU REPRESENT, UH, WHAT PUBLIC SERVICE SHOULD BE ALL ABOUT.
AND, UM, YOUR, THE WORK ETHIC OF EVERYONE, UM, IS, IS SO IMPRESSIVE.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IF EVERY GOVERNMENT AND FACILITY WAS RUN LIKE THE THREE HOSPITALS HERE, PHILLIPS, UM, WESTCHESTER MEDICAL, UH, CENTER IN WHITE PLAINS, THERE'D BE A LOT OF SMILING PEOPLE AND MANY FEWER, UH, ANXIETY ISSUES.
UM, SO I'D LIKE TO FIRST, UM, UH, I, AMY FERRARO, UH, UH, I TURN IT OVER TO EILEEN EGAN, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
SO, UH, WE WANT TO THANK YOU, AND IF MEMBERS OF THE BOARD WANT TO COME DOWN, YOU'RE WELCOME TO THE GREENBERG TOWN BOARD.
PHELPS HOSPITAL FOR DONATING REFLECTIVE SLAP BRACELETS TO THE TOWN, ENCOURAGING PEDESTRIANS TO WEAR REFLECTORS WHEN WALKING AT NIGHT.
IT REDUCES PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS AND FATALITIES, AND WE APPRECIATE THE HOSPITAL'S DEDICATION TO PUBLIC SAFETY.
AND PHELPS HOSPITAL IS, UH, A ROLE MODEL FOR COMMUNITY, FOR HOSPITALS ALL OVER, UH, ALL OVER THE NATION.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO, YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? UM, I, I'LL BE VERY BRIEF AS WELL.
UM, I AM EILEEN NEGAN, THE EXECUTIVE
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DIRECTOR AT PHELPS HOSPITAL.EMEL NIGRO, OUR FORMER ED, UM, DIRECTOR, UM, NOW THE PRESIDENT OF OUR MEDICAL STAFF, JEFF MEAD, WHO'S OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT OF EMERGENCY MEDICINE.
PROBABLY A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW HIM.
UM, TODD AND AMY PR AND PUBLIC RELATIONS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE.
UM, IT'S REALLY SO THRILLING TO BE PART OF THIS SAFETY INITIATIVE.
UM, THANKFULLY THE WEATHER'S GETTING WARMER, MORE PEOPLE ARE OUTSIDE BIKING, WALKING, JOGGING, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AS THE DAYS GET LONGER, TWILIGHT KIND OF SNEAKS UP ON US.
SO THE REFLECTIVE BANDS, UM, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE HANDING OUT WITH OUR COLLEAGUES FROM WHITE PLAINS HOSPITAL AND WESTCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER IS JUST REALLY A GREAT WAY TO PROMOTE THAT SAFETY.
UM, I JUST, UM, I FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING PART, PARTNERING WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS, IS, IS LIKE, IS THRILLING FOR US.
SO, UM, AS AN ER NURSE, I'VE SEEN, UH, WHAT HAPPENS WHEN A PEDESTRIAN GETS HIT BY A VEHICLE.
SO THIS WILL GO A LONG WAY IN PREVENTING THAT.
SO THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING US AND ALLOWING US TO PARTNER WITH YOU.
WE ALSO HAVE, UM, UH, DANIEL MARCY, DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS AT WESTCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER.
AND WE APPRECIATE EVERYTHING YOUR MEDICAL CENTER HAS BEEN DOING.
THANK YOU, UH, TO MAKE OUR PEDESTRIANS SAFER AND TO REDUCE THE POSSIBILITY OF A MAJOR OR, OR MINOR ACCIDENT.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? ABSOLUTELY.
I'M DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNITY RELATIONS FOR WESTCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER HEALTH NETWORK.
UM, AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE, OR EXCUSE ME, I'M VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE TODAY.
UM, WESTCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER HEALTH NETWORK IS ALWAYS EXCITED TO WORK WITH OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY PARTNERS THAT WE SERVE, ESPECIALLY IN TERMS OF HEALTH, SAFETY, AND WELLNESS.
AND WHEN THE TOWN APPROACHED US, UH, AND TOLD US THAT THESE REFLECTIVE ARMBANDS WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR PEDESTRIANS AND CYCLISTS, WE WERE VERY HAPPY TO PITCH IT.
SO WE GOT THESE CREATED, THEY'RE LITTLE SNAP BRACELETS THAT CAN GO RUN YOUR ARM, AND THEY'RE REFLECTIVE DURING THE EVENING HOURS.
UM, JUST LIKE THAT,
THAT'S THE ISSUE WITH LIVE DEMONSTRATIONS.
LIVE DEMONSTRATIONS ALWAYS CAN GO AWRY, BUT THERE YOU GO.
AND, UM, WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ANOTHER GREAT HOSPITAL IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, WHITE PLAINS, UM, HOSPITAL.
AND DAWN, UH, FRENCH IS SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT OF MARKETING AND, UM, COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE HER.
UM, A AS THEY SAY, SMALL THINGS CAN MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.
UM, AND WHITE PLANTS HOSPITAL, WE ARE PROUD TO PLAY A SMALL PART IN THIS EFFORT TO PROTECT AND KEEP OUR NEIGHBORS SAFE.
UM, AS, AS, UH, SUPERVISOR FINER MENTIONED, WE AT THE HOSPITAL, NONE OF US NEED ANYMORE BUSINESS.
WE ARE HERE FOR YOU IF YOU NEED US, AND YOU PROBABLY THINK OF US WHEN YOU'RE SICK OR IN EMERGENCIES, BUT, UM, LIKE MY COLLEAGUES AT PHELPS AND WESTCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER, A LOT OF OUR EFFORTS ARE FOCUSED ON WELLNESS AND PREVENTION AND PROTECTING OUR COMMUNITY AND KEEPING THEM SAFE.
SO, UM, WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE SUPPORTED THIS EFFORT AND HOPEFULLY OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE GETTING THEIR 10,000 STEPS AND STAYING, STAYING HEART HEALTHY OUT THERE.
SO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING US TO BE PART OF IT.
WE'RE HOLDING UP THE, UM, THANK YOU.
MAYBE I SHOULD PUT A REFLECTOR ON.
I PUT, UH, SOME OF THE REFLECTORS ON MY BICYCLE
AND, UM, LIST, BUT NOT LEAST, AND A A SURPRISE, WE HAVE TO GIVE RECOGNITION TO THE PERSON WHO CAME UP WITH THE IDEA.
AND, YOU KNOW, I USUALLY, I TAKE THE CREDIT FOR THINGS THAT I DON'T DESERVE.
UM, BUT, UM, THE CREDIT IN THIS INSTANT GOES TO MURRAY BODEN BECAUSE MURRAY, UM, UH, YEARS AGO SHOWED UP AT TOWN BOARD MEETINGS AND, UM, AND, UM, AND, UM, HE WAS WEARING REFLECTORS AND HE WAS GETTING, HE WAS YELLING AT US, UH, FOR NOT WEARING REFLECTORS.
UM, AND, UH, AFTER SHOWING UP A BUNCH OF TIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND I ALMOST LIKE,
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YOU KNOW, I SAW SO MANY PEDESTRIANS WALKING AND COULDN'T SEE THEM AFTER HE MADE HIS PRESENTATIONS AT THE BOARD MEETING, UM, THEN WE SAID, OH, WE BETTER START THIS EFFORT.SO, UH, MURRAY REALLY DESERVES, EVEN THOUGH HE CRITICIZES US AT EVERY MEETING, HE STILL DESERVES TO BE, UH, HE STILL DESERVES TO BE, UH, RECOGNIZED.
SO I WANT TO GIVE YOU, UM, AN APPRECIATION.
AND THIS SAYS, UM, BE A RESULT THAT MURRAY BOWDEN, UH, IS ABLE TO TAKE A VACATION FROM TOWN BOARD MEETING FOR
NO, ACTUALLY, WE, WE DO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE, YOU'VE SHOWN, UH, IN THIS INSTANCE THAT YOU'RE A VISIONARY.
YOU PROPOSED REFLECTORS YEARS AGO.
UM, AND I, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT WITHOUT YOUR EFFORTS, UH, THIS, UM, EFFORT WOULD NEVER HAVE GOTTEN STARTED.
SO I WANTED TO JUST SAY THANK YOU.
CAN I, I WAS AT, UH, HOLYWELL LAST NIGHT, UH, RETURNING SOMETHING, AND I HAD THE REFLECT THE BAND ON, AND THE GUY WHO WAS HELPING ME LOOKED AT IT, AND I SAID, I TOOK IT OFF AND I GAVE IT TO HIM.
HE, HE WANTED TO GIVE IT TO HIS WIFE.
AND I HAD ANOTHER ONE IN MY POCKET, AND I GAVE IT TO HIM, AND I GOT A HUG FROM HIM.
HE SAID, I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PROTECT MY WIFE, AND YOU'VE JUST HELPED ME DO IT.
SO WHAT YOU'VE DONE HAS BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL.
SO NEXT, UM, UH, WE HAVE, UM, A PROCLAMATION, NOT EVERYBO.
IF ANYONE WHO GOES, UH, WHO'S EVER BEEN TREATED, UH, AT EITHER PHELPS HOSPITAL, WESTCHESTER MEDICAL CENTER, OR WHITE PLAINS HOSPITAL HAS A BETTER CHANCE TO LIVE TO A HUNDRED, UM, THAN IF YOU GO TO HOSPITALS IN OTHER PLACES.
AND, UM, AND TODAY WE'RE GONNA BE HONORING, UH, VERY NICE SEGUE, PAUL.
VERY NICE SEGUE,
UM, ON FRIDAY, APRIL 21ST, IVY DARLING IS AN IMMIGRANT.
SHE MIGRATED TO THE UNITED STATES FROM THE ISLAND OF JAMAICA.
SHE SETTLED IN ELMSFORD IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WITH HER HUSBAND AND FIVE SONS.
SHE HAS 22 GRANDCHILDREN, 15 GREAT, UH, GRANDCHILDREN, AND THREE GREAT, UM, GREAT-GRANDCHILDREN.
UM, SO GONE, BUT NOT FORGOTTEN.
ON SEPTEMBER 11TH, IVY, UH, DARLING LOST HER GRANDDAUGHTER, ELIZABETH AND DARLING, IN THE ATTACK ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER.
SHE EXPERIENCED FURTHER GRIEF ON SEPTEMBER 4TH WHEN HER SON, PASTOR EARL DOUGLAS DARLING PASSED AWAY.
COMING FROM A HUMBLE BEGINNING, SHE WORKED HER WAY UP, UH, TO BEING AN ASSISTANT DIETICIAN.
SHE EXCELLED AND ACHIEVED HER L P N AND OBTAINED HER BACHELOR'S DEGREE FROM MERCY COLLEGE.
IN DOBBS FERRY, SHE BECAME A REGISTERED NURSE FOR NUMEROUS YEARS.
SHE EMBODIED A COMMITMENT TO SERVICE OVER FOUR DECADES AGO.
SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN INITIATING THE FIRST F W P FOOD PANTRY, ALONG WITH OTHER MEMBERS.
AND FOR 20 YEARS, SHE CARED FOR TWO VETERANS FROM THE VA MEDICAL CENTER, MONTROSE CAMPUS.
WHEN THEY PASSED AWAY, SHE RECEIVED A CITATION FROM WASHINGTON D C THANKING HER FOR ADMINISTERING THE BEST CARE TO THESE VETERANS.
SHE'S AN AUTHOR, SHE'S A SONGWRITER.
SHE HAS WRITTEN MANY POEMS, UH, WHICH SHE IS STILL ABLE TO RECITE FROM MEMORY.
AND ON JUNE 9TH, 2011, SHE PUBLISHED BEAUTIFUL SPRING, A REMARKABLE SONGBOOK ABOUT LIFE.
SHE ALSO WROTE AND PUBLISHED THE PRINCIPLES OF HOMESCHOOLING A HANDBOOK FOR HOMESCHOOLING ON DECEMBER 23RD, 2021.
IVY DARLING WAS HOMESCHOOLED UNTIL AGE SEVEN BY HER GRANDPARENTS, WHO TEACHERS, AND SHE COMPILED THIS BOOK FOR CHILDREN WITH THE HOMESCHOOL PRINCIPLES THAT SHE LEARNED.
SHE IS THE OLDEST MEMBER OF THE FIRST SEVENTH DAY AT ADVENTIST CHURCH IN WHITE PLAINS.
IT'S LOCATED IN GREENBURG, AND THEY ARE PROUD TO HAVE A, UM, 10 IN THE MIDST AND ATTRIBUTE HER LONGEVITY TO HER HEALTH PRACTICES AND HER CONSTANT THANKS AND PRAISE TO GOD.
SO THE GREENBERG TOWN BOARD, UM, HAS DECIDED TO PROCLAIM FRIDAY, APRIL 21ST AS IVY DARLING, UM, DAY.
AND I'D LIKE TO ASK HER FAMILY, UM, IF THEY COULD COME UP, UM, AND WE COULD GIVE YOU THE PROCLAMATIONS ANYTHING.
DON'T, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? YES.
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UH, JUST WANT TO SAY THANKS, HONORING HER.UM, I'M SURE SHE'S, SHE'LL BE THRILLED.
IT WAS, UH, UM, IF YOU COULD TURN THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT TOWARDS ME.
UM, WATCHING HER GROW WORK, YOU KNOW, HER WORK ETHIC AND EVERYTHING THAT SHE DID, I WOULD LIKE TO EMULATE.
UM, WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY? I DON'T KNOW.
UM, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT SHE, ONE THING THAT WASN'T IN, IN HER BIO IS HER AMAZING CARROT CAKE.
SHE, SHE REALLY JUST HAS A VERY UNIQUE, UH, RECIPE THAT EVERYBODY LOVES.
AND WHENEVER SHE WANTS TO SHOW YOU THAT SHE LOVES YOU, SHE COOKS FOR YOU, AND SHE MAKES CAKE FOR YOU.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER SIDE OF HER THAT I'VE, YES, I'VE COME TO REALLY ENJOY AND LOVE ABOUT HER AS WELL.
SO, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR THANK YOU.
AND, YOU KNOW, FINALLY, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING, YOU KNOW, ABOUT PEDESTRIAN, UM, YOU KNOW, SAFETY, UH, YOU KNOW, EARLIER, UH, THIS EVENING.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, BESIDES, UM, THE REFLECTOR EFFORT, WE ALSO HAVE BEEN BUILDING A LOT OF ADDITIONAL SIDEWALKS OVER, OVER THE YEARS AND CONTINUE TO DO SO TO MAKE PEDESTRIANS, UM, SAFER.
AND, UM, COUNCILMAN, UH, FRANCIS SHEEN WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN, UH, PERSUADING NEW YORK STATE, UH, TO, UM, APPROVE A HOOK LIGHT IN FRONT OF, UH, SACRED HEART CHURCH.
UM, AFTER A PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENT, UM, THAT OCCURRED AT THE CHURCH, UH, UM, A CONGREGANT WAS WALKING ACROSS CENTRAL AVENUE AND, UM, AND GOT HIT BY A CAR, YOU KNOW, SURVIVED.
BUT AS A RESULT OF THAT EFFORT, UH, THE COUNCILMAN ORGANIZED A PETITION EFFORT AND, UH, THAT HAWK LIGHT WILL BE OPERATIONAL, UM, WITHIN THE NEXT, UM, COUPLE WEEKS.
UH, COUNCILMAN, YOU WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, THE HAWK LIGHTEN HOWER WORKS.
SO, THIS, THIS WAS, UH, INITIATED BY UNFORTUNATELY, UH, A SCHOOL CHILD, ACTUALLY TWO, UH, AT THE SACRED HEART CHURCH WHO WAS CROSSING THE STREET, AND ONE WAS HIT BY A CAR THROWN OVER THE CAR AND WAS SERIOUSLY INJURED.
AND IT'S A VERY DANGEROUS CROSSWALK, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, FROM DOING A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.
IT WAS, THE CROSSWALK WAS ACTUALLY PUT THERE SO THAT THE RESIDENTS COULD GO ACROSS TO THE NATIONALLY FAMOUS PET CEMETERY.
AND THE CHURCH JUST HAPPENED TO ENJOY THE BENEFIT OF IT.
AND THEN IT GOT USED MORE AND MORE AND MORE, AND THEY WOULD NOT GIVE US A REGULAR TRA TRAFFIC LIGHT 'CAUSE IT WAS TOO CLOSE TO FOUR CORNERS.
BUT THEY WOULD GIVE US WHAT'S A FLASHING YELLOW BEACON.
BUT FRANKLY, A YELLOW BEACON FOR SOME PEOPLE MEANS SPEED UP BEFORE IT TURNS RED.
AND SO WE TOOK THE POSITION THAT EVEN THOUGH THAT'S WHAT THE STATE WAS WILLING TO GIVE US RIGHT AWAY, WITHOUT ANY QUESTIONS, WE DIDN'T WANT IT.
WE'D RATHER HAVE NO LIGHT THAN HAVE A YELLOW LIGHT THAN MAY CAUSE THE TRAFFIC TO SPEED UP AND JUST HIT SOMEBODY HARDER.
AND THE STATE HAS REALLY BEEN QUITE GOOD.
NOW, OF COURSE, WE HAD TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS AND THERE ARE MANY, WE HAD TO DEAL WITH THE PANDEMIC, AND WE KNOW HOW THAT WENT.
WE HAD TO DEAL WITH A SUPPLY SHORTAGE, AND WE KNOW HOW THAT WENT.
SO THIS ACTUALLY EFFORT STARTED WITH A PETITION DRIVE IN NOVEMBER OF 2019.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER, OF COURSE, THE PANDEMIC STARTED MARCH OF 2020.
IT WAS THE EASIEST PETITION TO GATHER SIGNATURES.
WE GATHERED OVER 800 SIGNATURES IN TWO DAYS, AND OVER THE COURSE OF THE WEEK, WE HAD OVER 2000 SIGNATURES.
NOW WE'RE GETTING WHAT'S KNOWN AS A HAWK LIGHT, RIGHT? HAWK LIGHT.
AND IT'S REALLY STRAINED HOW YOU GET THE ACRONYM OF HAWK.
IT LOOKS LIKE A HAWK A BIT BECAUSE OF THE ARMS THAT ARE BE GOING TO BE STICKING OUT.
BUT IT'S REALLY A HIGH INTENSITY, UM, ACTIVATED CROSSWALK.
AND IF YOU FIGURE OUT THE H A C K ALL SPREAD OUT THROUGH THOSE WORDS, YOU GET HAWK, IT'S A, IT'S A STRETCH.
IT'S A STRETCH, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS NEVER BEEN DONE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
IT WASN'T DONE IN WESTCHESTER, BUT THERE IS NOW ONE IN WHITE PLAINS.
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AND PART OF THE AGREEMENT FOR THEM TO PUT THIS IN IS THAT WE WOULD EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT THIS TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT HAS NO GREEN LIGHT, RIGHT? HAS NO GREEN LIGHT.NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'LL ALWAYS HAVE TO BE STOPPED, RIGHT? THERE'S GOTTA BE ANOTHER WAY.
SO ARE WE JUST PLAYING IT? ALRIGHT, IF YOU CAN, UH, SCROLL DOWN TO THE TOP OF PAGE TWO AND THEN BLOW IT UP IF YOU CAN.
AS MUCH AS YOU CAN GO SIDE TO SIDE ON THE PAGE.
SO IF YOU'RE LOOKING A LITTLE MORE, THAT'D BE GREAT.
SO THIS IS WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE ON EACH SIDE OF THE STREET.
NOW, WHAT'S THE ADVANTAGE OF A HAWK LIGHT OVER WHAT'S CALLED A RECTANGULAR RAPID, UM, FLASHING BEACON, WHICH IS THE YELLOW LIGHT, BUT THAT FLASHES, THIS HAS AN ARM THAT GOES DIRECTLY OUT OVER TRAFFIC.
HOW DID THE CHILD GET HIT? THERE WAS A TANDEM BUS COMING DOWN IN THE RIGHT LANE, AND THE CHILDREN COULD, UH, THE, UH, DRIVER IN THE CENTER LANE COULD NOT SEE THAT THERE WAS A CHILD COMING OUT.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS A REAL TRAGEDY.
AND IT, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT'S ON VIDEO, SO IT MAKES IT EVEN HARDER TO WATCH.
THIS TAKES CARE OF THAT PROBLEM.
'CAUSE THE ARM COMES OUT AND YOU HAVE A TRAFFIC LIGHT OVER BOTH LANES ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
AS YOU KNOW, THERE ARE TWO LANES GOING NORTH, TWO LANES GOING SOUTH.
AND SO THIS ADDRESSES THAT PROBLEM, WHICH IS A MAJOR ISSUE FOR US.
SO HOW DOES THIS WORK? AND THIS IS PART OF OUR EDUCATION OUTREACH, RIGHT? IS WHEN NOBODY PUSHES THE BUTTON AT THE CROSSWALK, THIS THING GOES ENTIRELY DARK.
THERE'S NOTHING TO TELL YOU, HEY, SLOW DOWN.
ONCE SOMEBODY PRESSES THE CROSSWALK BUTTON, IF YOU CAN SCROLL DOWN JUST A LITTLE BIT, AARON, PLEASE.
YOU'LL SEE ON THE LEFT IS WHAT THE DRIVERS WILL SEE.
AND ON THE RIGHT, WHAT THE PEDESTRIANS WILL SEE AT THE CROSSWALK.
NOW, FRANKLY, THE EASY EXPLANATION IS IF YOU'VE EVER PUSHED A BUTTON TO CROSS A CROSSWALK, YOU'VE LEARNED, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO WAIT FOR THE RED LIGHT.
YOU'RE THEN GOING TO GET A WALK SYMBOL, YOU WALK ACROSS AND YOU GET TO THE OTHER SIDE.
WHAT WE NEED TO REALLY EDUCATE, AND WE'RE DOING THIS IN ADVANCE OF THE LIGHT BEING INSTALLED WITHIN ABOUT TWO WEEKS.
'CAUSE ONCE IT'S INSTALLED, UH, WE, WE NEED AS MANY PEOPLE TO KNOW AS POSSIBLE.
UH, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS LIGHT IS ALL ABOUT.
SO IF YOU LOOK, WHEN YOU ARE AT THE PEDESTRIAN SIDE AND YOU HAVE A HAND UP, OBVIOUSLY THAT MEANS DON'T CROSSWALK.
DON'T CROSS THE WALK, RIGHT? WE ALL KNOW THAT.
SO WHAT DO THE DRIVERS SEE? THEY SEE NOTHING.
ONCE THE BUTTON IS PUSHED, YOU THEN GET A FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT.
WHAT DOES THE PEDESTRIAN DO? YOU WAIT.
BECAUSE YELLOW DOES NOT MEAN TO CROSS.
AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, THE FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT WILL GO SOLID YELLOW.
WHAT DOES THE PEDESTRIAN DO? YOU WAIT.
BECAUSE YELLOW STILL COULD MEAN SPEED UP TO GET THROUGH THIS THING.
THE NEXT THING YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IF YOU COULD SCROLL UP JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE IS YOU'RE GONNA SEE TWO SOLID RED LIGHTS.
AND AT THAT POINT, AT THE CROSSWALK, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE FAMOUS, YOU KNOW, UH, PERSON, PERSON ABLE TO WALK ACROSS YOU THEN PROCEED ACROSS AND YOU GET TO THE OTHER SIDE.
THE OTHER THING THAT HAS BEEN DONE AT THIS INTERSECTION IS IT'S NARROWED CENTRAL AVENUE SO THAT IT'S NOT AS FAR TO GET IT ACROSS.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY TREACHEROUS.
THE WAY THIS LIGHT ACTUALLY WENT IN IS D O T SET UP AN APPOINTMENT WITH US AND STAFF.
AND I HAVE TO GIVE A LOT OF CREDIT.
GARRETT, DUANE, WHO REALLY KEPT THIS THING GOING ALONG, HE'S THE COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING AS WELL AS OTHER STAFF.
UM, THEY SET UP AN APPOINTMENT WITH AT ONE O'CLOCK TO DISCUSS THIS.
UNBEKNOWNST TO US, THEIR POLICY IS SET IT UP FOR ONE.
SO THEY GET THERE AT 11 AND SEE WHAT THE REAL STORY IS.
SO IN OTHER WORDS, NOBODY COULD ALL OF A SUDDEN TELL
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THE NEIGHBORS, HEY, EVERYBODY COME OUT AND GO THROUGH THAT INTERSECTION.YOU KNOW, AT ONE O'CLOCK THEY ALMOST GOT KILLED TRYING TO CROSS THE ROAD.
AND THAT'S WITH A GREENBERG POLICE CAR WITH ITS LIGHTS ON PARKED ON THE SIDE TO THE POINT WHERE SOMEBODY LOOKED AT THE POLICE CAR AND JUST BLEW BY.
THERE WAS NO WAY THAT PERSON WAS TALKING THE POLICE OFFICER OUT OF A TICKET.
BUT WE HAD TOWN OFFICIALS THERE, WE HAD THE POLICE THERE, WE HAD D O T THERE.
IT'S JUST A VERY TREACHEROUS AREA.
AT SOME POINT, GENERALLY BY THE TIME YOU GET ACROSS THE, THE, UH, STREET, THE RED LIGHTS ARE GONNA START TO FLASH.
AT THAT POINT, IF YOU'RE WAITING TO CROSS THE STREET, YOU HAVE TO WAIT.
THAT IS FOR THE PEOPLE ALREADY IN THE STREET TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE.
IT'S NOT ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU TO START.
AND NOW LET ME SEE IF I CAN GET ACROSS AS WELL.
THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THIS IS FOR SAFETY.
AND THEN AFTER THAT PERIOD OF TIME, IT GOES DARK AGAIN UNTIL SOMEBODY ELSE READS, UH, PRESSES THE BUTTON.
YOU'VE NOW ALL BEEN EDUCATED AND YOU NOW HAVE AN ASSIGNMENT IS TO SPREAD THE WORD RIGHT? SPREAD THE WORD AS BEST YOU CAN.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY DISTRIBUTED, YOU KNOW, OVER A THOUSAND OF THEM.
WE'RE GONNA BE MAKING SOME MORE SO THAT THIS EXACT, UM, ILLUSTRATION WE'LL BE SHOWN TO YOU.
IF YOU JUST GO DOWN TO PAGE THREE VERY QUICKLY.
SO THIS IS WHAT IT SAYS WHEN YOU GO TO PUSH THE BUTTON, RIGHT? IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU, RIGHT? WHAT YOU START CROSSING DON'T CROSS, RIGHT? IF YOU SEE THE FLASHING LIGHT, IT'S TOO LATE.
THERE'S GONNA BE A COUNTDOWN TIMER TELLING YOU.
AND IT'S NOT, YOUR JOB IS NOT TO SEE HOW FAST YOU CAN RUN ALONG AND RUN ACROSS.
UH, DON'T CROSS AND AN ARROW TO THE BUTTON.
IT'S JUST, CHANCES ARE, YOU'VE NEVER HEARD OF THIS BEFORE.
BUT IT'S A GETTING INCREASING POPULARITY BECAUSE FOR ANY AREA THAT DOESN'T MEET THE WARRANTS, BECAUSE IT'S SO CLOSE TO ANOTHER, UH, REGULAR TRAFFIC, LIKE, LIKE FOUR CORNERS, UH, THIS THING JUST SOUNDS LIKE AN IDEAL SITUATION.
TOOK A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK.
NEW YORK STATE, D O T HAS BEEN TERRIFIC.
I CAN TELL YOU THE PETITION OF OVER 2000 SIGNATURES HAS WORKED AS INTENDED.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, I NEVER ACTUALLY TURNED IT IN TO ANY INDIVIDUAL BECAUSE I, EVERY TIME WE HAD A MEETING, I BROUGHT IT WITH ME.
AND I, I I SAID, IT'S FOR YOU,
AND IT, WE HAD TO SHOW COMMUNITY SUPPORT BECAUSE THIS IS SUCH AN UNUSUAL TYPE OF A LIGHT.
IT'S A NEW, NEW TYPE OF CONCEPT.
AND EVERYBODY ALONG THE WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PANDEMIC DIDN'T COOPERATE.
THE, THE, UH, SHORTAGE DIDN'T COOPERATE, UH, THE SUPPLY SHORTAGE.
BUT IT'S NOW GONNA BE A REALITY VERY, VERY QUICKLY.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE CHILD WHO GOT HIT IS NO LONGER IN THE AREA.
UM, BUT IT'S WHAT STARTED IT ALL OFF.
BUT HE SURVIVED, RIGHT? YEAH, HE DID SURVIVE.
UM, UM, JUST WANTED TO TAKE, UM,
[ BOARDS & COMMISSIONS Appointment of Pauline Helen Mosley to the Zoning Board as an Alternate Member, for a term to expire December 31, 2023 Re-appointment of Fred Campbell, Irene Kanowitz, John Malone, Lemuel Davis, Michael Wolin and Jon Flores to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board, for a term to expire December 31, 2025 Re-appointment of Stephen Cowles, Eric Zinger, Marisa Goldberg, Trudy Holand, Michael Marino and Robert Gramaglia to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board, for a term to expire December 31, 2024 Re-appointment of Dorinne Livson and Cindy Collins to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board, for a term to expire December 31, 2023]
OUT OF ORDER, UH, DEPLOYMENT OF PAULINE HELEN MOSLEY TO THE ZONING BOARD AS AN ALTERNATE, A MEMBER FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST, 2023.UH, SINCE, UM, UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU VERY MUCH SINCE, UH, SINCE PO SINCE PAULINE IS, UM, HERE.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE, UH, THAT APPOINTMENT.
UM, ANYONE LIKE TO SECOND? WELL, WHY DON'T YOU SAY WHAT THE APPOINTMENT IS TO THE ZONING BOARD AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER FOR A TERM TO, UM, EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST, 2023.
UM, PAULINE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? AND PAULINE IS ALSO PROFESSOR, UM, AT, UM, PACE UNIVERSITY HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN OUR TECHNOLOGY COMMITTEE AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IS VERY, UH, PASSIONATE ABOUT, UH, UH, DOING HER HOMEWORK ON, ON THE ZONING BOARD AND REVIEWING CASES, UH, CAREFULLY EVENING BEFORE SHE WAS ON.
I JUST WISH TO THANK, UM, MR. PAUL, FINER TOWN SUPERVISOR AND THE WONDERFUL BOARD FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THE RESIDENTS OF GREENBERG.
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BEING PART OF THE ZONING BOARD AND LEARNING FROM MY FELLOW COLLEAGUES, AS WELL AS DELIBERATING ON RESIDENTS AND ALSO MUNICIPALITIES THAT COME BEFORE THE TOWN WITH THEIR VARIOUS REQUESTS.SO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.
THANK YOU FOR SERVING MY PLEASURE.
WE ALSO, UH, OH, ACTUALLY WE NOW HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, PUBLIC HEARINGS.
UM, SUPERVISOR, IF, IF YOU'RE OPENING THE CONDOMINIUM HEARING, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU AND COUNCIL MEMBER HENDRICKS WOULD BE RECUSING YOURSELF.
SO I WOULD ASK THAT IF YOU WERE SORRY ABOUT THAT, I WOULD ASK IF THERE ARE TWO RECU, ANY RECUSALS, IF YOU COULD STEP DOWN FROM THE DAY US NOW, BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE BOARD CAN MOTION TO OPEN THE HEARING.
HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? UH, THE CLERK'S NOT HERE.
WE DON'T KNOW WHO WANTS TO SPEAK.
I DON'T SEE ANY SIGN-IN FORMS OUT HERE, SO WE'LL JUST, YEAH, A AS WE CALL YOU TO COME UP TO SPEAK, WE DIDN'T OPEN THE MEETING YET, BUT AS WE CALL YOU, IF YOU JUST STATE, STATE YOUR NAME TO THE, UH, REPORTER, THEN WE'LL, UH, WE'LL GET A RECORD OF WHO'S HERE.
YOU WANT ME TO DO IT OR CAN IN THE PUBLIC HEARING? YEAH.
[ To consider a Local law creating a new Article XVII to Chapter 440 "Taxation" in the Code of the Town of Greenburgh entitled "Tax Assessment of Condominiums and Cooperatives."]
PUBLIC HEARING, UH, TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW CREATING A NEW ARTICLE 20, WHAT IS THAT ARTICLE? 27.TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW CREATING A NEW ARTICLE 17 TO CHAPTER FOUR 40, TAXATION IN THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED TAX ASSESSMENT OF CONDOMINIUMS AND COOPERATIVES.
YOU'RE MOVING THAT, I I MOVE THAT SECOND.
UH, DID YOU VOTE? AYE I SAID AYE.
I, I, I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS THAT.
PEOPLE ARE I I'LL ADDRESS THAT.
UM, THERE IS A QUORUM UNDER THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS UNDER THE PUBLIC OFFICER'S LAW AND OTHER UNDER THE TOWN CODE.
UH, WE'VE MET THE REQUIREMENTS.
PUBLIC NOTICE WAS GIVEN FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO OCCUR AT TOWN HALL, AND ALL MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC BODY MUST BE IN THE SAME PHYSICAL LOCATION OR LOCATIONS WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN ATTEND, CAN BE HEARD, SEEN AND IDENTIFIED THROUGHOUT THE HEARING.
A COUNCIL MEMBER JACKSON IS SATISFYING THESE REQUIREMENTS.
AND OBVIOUSLY COUNCIL MEMBER SHEHAN AND COUNCIL MEMBER JONES ARE SATISFYING THIS REQUIREMENT AS WELL.
AND THERE NEEDS TO BE THREE PEOPLE, OR THREE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO HAVE A QUORUM.
THE DOOR'S CLEARLY OPEN AND, AND COUNCIL MEMBER JACKSON IS PRESENT.
SHE'S FEELING UNDER THE WEATHER, SO I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT ANYBODY GO, GO BACK THERE.
BUT THE DOOR IS OPEN, SHE'S AVAILABLE.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY QUORUM IS MET.
RIGHT? DO WE WANNA TAKE SPEAKERS NOW? WELL ACTUALLY I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO, TO, SO THERE WAS, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF ISSUES RAISED, JOE, THAT, UH, I'D LIKE YOU TO ADDRESS WITH REGARD TO, UM, THIS PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE OPEN IT FOR COMMENTS.
UM, THE FIRST ISSUE IS, UH, WHETHER THIS, UH, THE FACT THAT THIS, UH, THIS, UH, LOCAL LAW THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING, UM, DOESN'T EXPLICITLY, UH, INCLUDE RENTAL CONVERSIONS.
UM, AND, UH, THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER IT SHOULD EXPLICITLY INCLUDE, UH, RENTAL CONVERSIONS TO CONDOMINIUM.
UH, THE FIRST ISSUE WAS, UH, THAT THE FACT THAT THIS LOCAL LAW DOESN'T, UH, EXPLICITLY ADDRESS, UH, CONDO CONVERSIONS FROM RENTAL UNITS.
UH, THE SECOND ISSUE WAS THAT THE LAW EXEMPTS SUBSIDIZED HOUSING, UH, BUT IS SILENT WITH REGARD TO THE REMAINDER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, FOR EXAMPLE.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE AFFORDABLE UNITS BILLED AS A RESULT OF THE 10% SET ASIDE, UH, UNDER THIS NEW LAW? YES.
SO IN REGARDS TO THE FIRST QUESTION, WITH RENTALS BEING CONVERTED TO CONDOMINIUMS, WE DO HAVE ANOTHER
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LAW IN REGARDS TO CONVERTED CONDOMINIUMS, TOWN CODE FOUR 40 DASH 82, WHICH ADDRESSES THIS ISSUE.AND WE MAY WANT TO AMEND THAT LAW TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS THAT YOU JUST SAID ABOUT A RENTAL BEING CONVERTED TO A CONDOMINIUM.
I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THE CURRENT LAW IS IN REGARDS TO NEWLY CREATED CONDOMINIUMS ARE COOPERATIVE.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE AN EFFECT ON THIS LAW, BUT BOTH THE TOWN CODE THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND THE TOWN CODE BEING CONSIDERED TONIGHT, BOTH USE THE EXACT WORDING THAT'S ALLOWED BY THE STATE UNDER HOME RULE, UH, LAWS.
AND WERE, THE TOWN IS ATTEMPTING TO, UH, COMPLY WITH THE STATE'S VERBIAGE.
AND AT THIS POINT, I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE ANY FURTHER AMENDMENTS UNLESS GOING BACK TO THE STATE, IF ANY AMENDMENTS ARE NEEDED AT THIS POINT, I WOULD RECOMMEND CHANGING FOUR 40 DASH 82, WHICH SPECIFICALLY DEALS WITH CONVERTED UNITS.
IT SPECIFICALLY DEALS WITH THE RENTAL CONVERSIONS.
IT SPECIFICALLY DEALS WITH CONVERTED UNITS.
OVERALL, NOT ONLY RENTAL UNITS, ANY FORM OF OWNERSHIP THAT CONVERTS TO A CONDOMINIUM.
AND IN REGARDS TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING QUESTION, UM, IN THE FOUR 40 DASH 96 OF THIS LAW BEING CONSIDERED TONIGHT, IT INCLUDES ANY EXEMPTED PROPERTIES, NOT ONLY WHEN A, UH, COOPERATIVE OR CONDOMINIUM IS PARTICIPATING IN AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING TAX CREDIT PROGRAM, BUT ALSO WHEN THERE IS A REGULATORY AGREEMENT WITH EITHER A FEDERAL, STATE, OR A LOCAL AGENCY RELATED TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS.
AND I SPOKE WITH ASSESSOR MCCARTHY, AND SHE BELIEVES THAT THE, ALL THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE HAVE WITHIN THE TOWN WOULD FALL WITHIN THIS LAW AS AN EXEMPTED PROPERTY.
UH, SO NOW WE'LL, UH, TAKE QUESTIONS, UM, OR TAKE COMMENTS.
UH, WITH REGARD TO, UM, UH, THIS PUBLIC HEARING, UH, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A SIGN IN SHEET, UM, JUST RAISE YOUR HAND.
COUNCIL MEMBER SHEEN, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO WORK THE CLOCK, OR WOULD YOU LIKE, THANK YOU.
UM, HI, UH, I WANTED, UH, MY NAME IS MANNY URIS.
I'M THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE JUNIPER HILL CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
UM, UH, LAWS LIKE THIS AFFECT US ALL, UM, DUE TO THE CREATING MORE EQUITY.
BUT ANYWAYS, I WROTE SOMETHING DOWN SO I WOULD NOT WASTE MY, YOUR TIME OR MY TIME GOING AROUND THIS.
UM, THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK ON THIS.
AND I'D LIKE TO COMMENT COMMAND COMMENDED THE TOWN BOARD FOR FINALLY GETTING AROUND TO CHANGING CHAPTER 4, 4 40 OF THE TAX CODE.
AS WE PROBABLY HAVE SEEN NEW CONSTRUCTION IN GREENBURG BY DEVELOPERS.
IT'S MOSTLY CONDOS AND CO-OPS.
UM, THE CREATION OF, OF, OF SOME TAX EQUITY BETWEEN THE CO-OPS AND THE, AND THE CONDO OWNERSHIP AND THE SINGLE FAMILY OWNERS IS LONG OVERDUE.
UM, ALSO, I'M GLAD TO SEE THAT.
WELL, YOU ADDRESSED THE LOOPHOLE
UM, THEY, UM, TAX FAIRNESS SHOULD, SHOULD ALWAYS BE THE PRI THE PRIMARY GOAL OF THE BOARD.
UM, AND WE SHOULD ALWAYS BE LOOKING FOR EVERY OPPORTUNITY FOR CREATION OF TAX EQUITY IN, IN THE WHOLE TOWN.
NOT ONLY THROUGH LOCAL LAW, BUT ALSO BY PETITIONING, UH, STATE LAWMAKERS TO MAKE CHANGES THAT WOULD'VE FACILITATE MORE EQUITABLE TAXATION.
UM, UH, NOW THAT I HAVE PLENTY OF TIME, I WANT TO ADD SOMETHING.
'CAUSE AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, UH, THIS, THIS RESOLUTION OR THIS, THIS DISCUSSION WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA AND, AND AT THE LAST MINUTE IT WAS PULLED.
UH, I LIKE TO SAY THAT IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT MIGHT COME TO TALK ABOUT THIS, THE ISSUES AND, AND THE CONCERNS AND THE, AND THE LAWS THAT ARE GONNA BE, UH, DISCUSSED, SHOULD HAVE BETTER AND MORE AND LONGER TIMEFRAMES SO THEY CAN KNOW THAT IT'S GONNA BE COVERED AND IT SHOULD NOT BE PULLED AT THE LAST MINUTE.
AND IF IT IS PULLED IN THE LAST MINUTE, THERE SHOULD BE, THERE SHOULD BE A DISCUSSION OF WHY IT'S BEING PULLED.
I'D APPRECIATE MORE CONSIDERATION FOR THE PEOPLE WHO COME HERE AND TALK AND, AND CARE.
THE PEOPLE WHO CARE THAT COME HERE TO
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TOWN BOARD MEETINGS, UH, THEY SHOULD BE RESPECTED AND GIVEN THE, THE REASONS WHY THINGS ARE, ARE PULLED FROM THE AGENDA AT THE LAST MINUTE.MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MR. SUPERVISOR.
MY NAME IS NEIL DELUCA, ONE WALMART AVENUE HASTINGS ON HUDSON.
I COME AND SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO YOUR PROPOSED CHANGE IN THE ASSESSMENTS.
UM, SOMEHOW I THINK I FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS.
I, I FIRST PRESENTED TO THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS FOR A ZONE CHANGE IN NOVEMBER OF 2021.
I RECEIVED THAT ZONE CHANGE JUST RECENTLY IN MARCH OF 2023.
MORE IMPORTANTLY, AS PART OF THE C Q R REQUIREMENTS THAT I KNOW YOU'RE AWARE OF WITH THE HASTINGS PLANNING BOARD.
ONE OF THE IMPACTS, POTENTIAL NEGATIVE IMPACTS THEY STUDIED WAS FISCAL AT THE TIME, KNOWING NOTHING ABOUT, UH, ANY GREENBERG PROPOSED RESOLUTION.
I MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE HASTINGS PLANNING BOARD TO SATISFY MY C REQUIREMENTS.
AND WHAT I DID WAS I LOOKED AT, UH, ALL OF THE CONDOMINIUMS AND MANY I COULD IN HASTINGS TO SEE WHAT THE TAXES WERE.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, A CONDOMINIUM ON, I THINK IT WAS OLD SPRAIN ROAD, WAS SELLING FOR $1.2 MILLION TAX BILL, ALL TAXING JURISDICTIONS OF $21,000.
SO AT THE TIME, I THOUGHT I WAS DOING THE RIGHT THING, AND SO DID THE PLANNING BOARD.
I TOOK MY UNITS AND I MULTIPLIED THEM BY 21,000.
YOU SHOULD KNOW, BY THE WAY, THREE OF MY 20 UNIT PROJECTS IN GREENBURG ARE AFFORDABLE.
HASTINGS HAS A 15% SET ASIDE, UH, NOT 10, THERE'S TAXES AT THE END OF 2021.
ALL TAXING DISTRICTS AS ASSESSED BY GREENBERG, WAS SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 88, 80 9,000.
I PROPOSED TO INCREASE THOSE TAXES, TAXES TO ALMOST $400,000.
I AND WHOLE PREMISE OF THE PROJECT IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE LIVED IN SOME OF THE RIVER TOWNS IN GREENBURG FOR A LONG TIME.
THEY NO LONGER NEED THOSE SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
YOU HAVE MANY, YOU KNOW, THEM GREAT SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITHIN YOUR TOWN.
YOU HAVE MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED HERE 30, 40 YEARS.
THE KIDS HAVE LONG GONE, BUT THEY HAVE A DESIRE TO STAY HERE.
GREENBERG AND CENTRAL WESTCHESTER, YOU KNOW THAT IT'S A GREAT PLACE TO LIVE.
I THINK THE LURE OF CONDOMINIUMS IS WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO ERADICATE.
THERE ARE LOTS AND LOTS OF PEOPLE WHO GREW UP IN THE RIVER TOWNS, FOR EXAMPLE, OTHER PARTS OF GREENBURG WHO NOW PAY TAXES IN THE MID AND HIGH THIRTIES, THOUSANDS.
THAT'S OKAY BECAUSE MOST OF THAT MONEY, AS YOU ALL KNOW, GOES TO THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THE EDUCATION THAT CHILDREN GOT WAS THE SACRIFICE THOSE PEOPLE MADE.
NOW THEY'RE MY AGE, MAYBE A FEW YEARS YOUNGER THAN ME, MID SIXTIES, PEAK EARNING POWER HAS GREATLY DIMINISHED.
NOW THEY HAVE THE EQUITY TO BUY A CONDO FROM ME, A MILLION DOLLAR CONDO IN HASTINGS USING THE MONEY FROM THEIR EXISTING HOUSE.
WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE IS LOTS OF DISPOSABLE MONTHLY INCOME.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T MAKE A LOT OF MONEY ANYMORE.
SO MY LURE TO THEM HAD BEEN, COME TO LIVE IN HASTINGS, STAY IN GREENBURG, SELL YOU A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE THAT'S APPRECIATED, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OVER THE YEARS WHILE YOU PUTTING THE KIDS TO SCHOOL.
BUY A HOUSE FOR ME AND YOUR TAXES ARE GONNA BE 20, 21, 20 2000 AS OPPOSED TO 35, 30 7,000 THAT I THINK WILL HAPPEN NOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, REAL ESTATE HAS TWO MAJOR RULES.
LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION AND CAVEAT MTOR, BUYER BEWARE, WHERE MY LOCATION IS.
IT'S IN HASTINGS, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ON THE HUDSON RIVER WITH A VIEW OF THE PALISADES.
YOU CAN'T BE A LOCATION LIKE THAT.
YOU CAN'T BE THE VILLAGE LIKE HASTINGS.
YOU CAN'T BE THE TOWN LIKE GREENBURG.
THE OTHER PART OF THAT THOUGH IS CAVEAT MTOR.
UH, I KNOW SUPERVISOR FINE OF A LONG TIME.
I HAD THE PLEASURE IN SERVING WITH HIM WHEN I WAS DEPUTY COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND HE WAS SUPERVISOR ELECT.
HE WAS QUOTED IN A JANUARY 6TH ARTICLE.
BY THE WAY, I SPOKE TO PAUL ON THIS, SO THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NO SURPRISE.
HE WAS QUOTED IN SAYING, UM, UM, NO DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS ARE IN THE
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PIPELINE.I'VE BEEN IN THE PIPELINE FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, AND I'M THREE MONTHS AWAY, MAYBE FOUR FROM GETTING FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL, PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND.
I OFFER A POTENTIAL SOLUTION, REVISION CHANGE.
I ASSUME PAUL SAID THAT BECAUSE GREENBERG AND ITS PROFESSIONALS DID SOME DUE DILIGENCE.
WHAT WAS AROUND? SOMEHOW I GOT MISSED.
I DON'T KNOW HOW I'VE BEEN PUBLIC ABOUT IT.
I'VE BEEN, UH, IT IT'S ON THE TOWN WEBSITE.
I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER PROJECTS, SIR.
THERE, THERE, THERE WILL BE A SECOND LIKELY A SECOND ROUND THAT YOU CAN COME BACK UP AND HAVE ANOTHER FIVE MINUTES.
WE HAVE TO RESPECT THE OTHER SPEAKER.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ERIC? ERIC ZINGER.
UH, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN TO YOU GUYS AT THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS TOPIC, WHICH, UH, FEELS LIKE MONTHS AGO AT THIS POINT ABOUT WHAT I THINK THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS THIS WILL HAVE ON INCREASING ACCESS TO MODERATELY PRICED HOUSING IN THE MIDST OF AN INCREASINGLY EXPENSIVE HOUSING ENVIRONMENT AND THE IMPACT IT WILL HAVE ON REDIRECTING INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT AWAY FROM GREENBURG.
AS A REMINDER, THIS LEGISLATION IS FOR GREENBURG AND ITS VILLAGES ONLY.
NO OTHER PART OF NEW YORK STATE IS BEING IMPACTED BY THE RECENT LAW BECAUSE GOVERNOR HACKEL VETOED A BASICALLY EXACT SAME VERSION FOR A STATEWIDE BILL.
AND HER REASONING FOR DOING SO WAS SOUND AND DIRECT.
SHE SAID THIS BILL WOULD RESULT IN AN EFFECTIVE TAX INCREASE UPON NEWLY CONSTRUCTED HOUSING BUILT AS CONDOMINIUMS IN JURISDICTIONS THAT CHANGE THEIR ASSESSMENT, WHICH WOULD MAKE THIS HOUSING LESS ATTRACTIVE TO POTENTIAL HOMEOWNERS AND ULTIMATELY LEAD TO FEWER UNITS OF HOUSING BEING BUILT.
PAUL IS RECUSING HIMSELF IN THIS HEARING.
BUT EARLIER THIS WEEK, AS THE AFOREMENTIONED SPEAKER NOTED, HE HAD A LETTER TO THE EDITOR PUBLISHED IN THE NEW YORK TIMES WITH THE HEADLINE, BETTER WAYS FOR SUBURBS TO BUILD MORE HOUSING BY PUTTING IN AN EFFECTIVE TAX INCREASE ONLY IN GREENBURG, SOLELY DESIGNED TO TARGET NEW CON.
COULD YOU WAIT ONE I THINK GINA TIME.
WANNA CLOSE THE DOOR? WE'LL GIVE YOU THE TIME.
WE'LL GIVE YOU AN EXTRA MINUTE.
UH, PAUL'S RECUSING HIMSELF IN THIS HEARING, BUT EARLIER THIS WEEK HAD A LETTER TO THE EDITOR PUBLISHED IN THE NEW YORK TIMES WITH THE HEADLINE, BETTER WAYS FOR SUBURBS TO BUILD MORE HOUSING BY PUTTING IN AN EFFECTIVE TAX INCREASE ONLY IN GREENBERG, SOLELY DESIGNED TO TARGET NEW CONSTRUCTION AND DEVELOPMENT IN GREENBURG.
YOU DON'T NEED TO BE AN ECONOMICS MAJOR TO KNOW THAT YOU WILL GET EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE OF THAT.
MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE TOWN BOARD FOR OVER A DECADE, BUT WHILE WE'VE BEEN BUSY INCREASING TAXES ON DEVELOPMENTS THAT DON'T EXIST YET AND SCHEDULING PUBLIC HEARINGS ON DOG BREEDERS AND LEGISLATING OVER LEAF BLOWERS, WE STILL HAVE NO LEGISLATION THAT WOULD MANDATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME DEVELOPMENTS.
THIS BILL, EVEN IF YOU DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING I JUST SAID, IS INHERENTLY FLAWED.
IT ADDRESS IGNORES THE MAJOR LOOPHOLE OF RENTAL TO CONDO CONVERSIONS.
AND I KNOW THAT THE, UH, INTERIM AND SOON TO BE, UH, FULL-TIME CONGRATULATIONS TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, OPINED ON THAT.
BUT, UM, I'VE HEARD VERY DIFFERENT ANSWERS FROM OTHER PEOPLE WITH LAW DEGREES, AND I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE A REALLY HARD TIME AVOIDING A COURT CASE ON THIS AND THAT, UM, EVEN IF WE WERE TO WIN IN THE END, I KNOW THIS TOWN LOVES HIRING OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND GOING INTO LAND USE, UH, SETTLEMENTS, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST IF WE GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD, DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
I KNOW THE TOWN BOARD IS RELUCTANT TO DO SO GIVEN THE INVESTMENT IN GETTING STATE SUPPORT, BUT THE FLAWS AND PROBLEMS ARE TOO MANY AND TOO OBVIOUS TO BLINDLY CHARGE AHEAD.
HOW, HOW, DESPITE THE RECUSALS, THIS HAS ALL THE EARMARKS OF A BACKROOM DEAL.
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PARTICULAR PUBLIC HEARING IS YOU WOULD THINK THAT WITH A MAJOR REAL ESTATE ISSUE BEING BEFORE THE PUBLIC IN A PUBLIC HEARING, THAT THE LAWYERS FOR THE PROMINENT DEVELOPERS WHO DEVELOPING GREENBERG WOULD BE HERE TO TESTIFY.THEY WOULD, MIGHT HAVE CONCERN FOR THEIR CLIENTS ABOUT ANY NEW DEVELOPMENT, WHICH MIGHT CAUSE THEIR SUCCESS OF THAT DEVELOPMENT TO FAIL BECAUSE OF HIGHER TAXES VERSUS EXISTING UNITS.
SO WHY AREN'T THEY THERE? WELL, I SUSPECT THE BACKROOM DEAL HAS BEEN MADE AND IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CONVERSION OF EXISTING PROPERTIES, WHICH OUR NEW TOWN ATTORNEY WANTS TO ASSURE US WE CAN REMEDY IN THE FUTURE BY AMENDING.
I SAY, LET'S DO IT NOW BEFORE WE VOTE.
LET'S EVERYONE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S ON THE FLOOR AND EXACTLY WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE I CAN SEE DEVELOPERS AFTER THIS PASSES CONVERTING EXISTING RENTAL UNITS TO CONDOMINIUMS AND ABLE TO DO SO BASED UPON THE LANGUAGE OF THIS LAW AND NOT A LAW WHICH HASN'T BEEN AMENDED YET.
THE OTHER PROBLEM IS A CONDOMINIUM UNIT IS NOT A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO TO CONSIDER THAT ALL OF THESE UNITS, JUST BECAUSE THE SELLING PRICE MAY APPEAR TO BE THE SAME, IT DOESN'T MEAN THE LIFESTYLE OF USING A CONDO UNIT VERSUS THE PRIVATE SINGLE FAMILY HOME IS THE SAME.
GREENBERG IS FORTUNATE IN THAT WE HAVE, ODDLY ENOUGH IN EDGEMONT THE FORD AND CHEVROLET DEALER, AND IN FAIRVIEW WE HAVE THE TESLA AND B M W DEALER, BUT NEVERTHELESS, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE THE SELLING PRICES OF THOSE VEHICLES VARY.
OBVIOUSLY, TYPICAL CHEVROLET IS NOT GONNA SELL FOR WHAT A TYPICAL B M W IS GOING TO SELL FOR.
SO THE QUESTION IS, IS A B M W AND A CHEVROLET THE SAME RIDE? NO.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE A CONDOMINIUM UNIT, YOU GENERALLY HAVE IT IN A CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT, AND WHAT YOU HAVE AROUND YOU IS IN YOUR OWN APARTMENT TENANTS ABOVE BELOW TO EITHER SIDE.
THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU HAVE IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
WHAT YOU HAVE IN A CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT IS A DUMPSTER.
DO MANY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES HAVE DUMPSTERS ON THEIR PROPERTY? WHAT YOU HAVE IN A CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT IS A PARKING PAVED PARKING AREA WITH NUMBERED SPACES.
IS THAT THE EQUIVALENT OF WHAT YOU HAVE IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME? THERE ARE MANY OTHER REASONS WHICH SUGGEST THAT EVEN THOUGH THE MARKET VALUE MAY GO FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DOLLARS, THE LIFESTYLE OF LIVING IN A CONDOMINIUM UNIT IS NOT THE LIFESTYLE OF LIVING IN A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO WHY ARE WE TAXING THEM THE SAME? THE OTHER ASPECT OF IT IS, GEE, THIS IS GREAT FOR POLITICS AND GREAT FOR ALL THE 4,500 UNITS WHICH ALREADY EXIST, WHICH CAN CONTINUE TO PAY LOWER TAXES.
THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE SO MUCH ABOUT WHAT THE RETAIL SALES VALUE MAY BE OF A PRE 2023 UNIT VERSUS A POST 2023 UNIT.
BUT FOR ALL THE YEARS OF OCCUPANCY BY THOSE OWNERS OF THE 4,500 UNITS, THEY WILL BE PAYING LESS IN TAXES.
AND THAT'S THE BENEFIT THAT THEY'RE GETTING.
IF YOU WANTED TO DO THIS FAIRLY, YOU HAD OPTIONS, ONE, MAKE IT RETROACTIVE, BUT THAT WOULD BE POLITICALLY NOT ABLE TO HAPPEN, OF COURSE.
BUT YOU HAVE OTHER OPTIONS ON HOW TO DELIVER THIS END PRODUCT IF THE REASON FOR DOING SO WAS REALLY TO CREATE REVENUE.
AND AMONG THOSE OPTIONS ARE ONLY DEAL WITH CONDOMINIUMS WHICH SELL FOR A CERTAIN PRICE, SAY $750,000 MIGHT BE AFFECTED UNDER A NEW LAW.
WHAT ABOUT GIVING A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME TO BREAK THE LAW IN? THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO HAVE INVESTMENTS IN LAND NOW WITH THE INTENTION OF DEVELOPING THEM AS CONDOS, BUT WILL BE FROZEN OUT.
SO GIVE THEM FOUR YEARS BEFORE THIS LAW TAKES EFFECT.
ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY IS TO HAVE A TAX INCREASE, BUT TO BRING IT IN IN STEPS SO MUCH A YEAR OVER, SAY A FIVE YEAR PERIOD BETWEEN WHAT IS CURRENTLY BEING PAID BY THOSE CURRENT OWNERS AND WHAT THEY WOULD PAY BASED UPON IF THE THE NEW UNIT WAS BUILT IN 2023.
THAT GIVES EVERYONE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADJUST.
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TO SPEAK? SHOW OF HANDS.UH, WE'LL HAVE A SECOND ROUND.
THE TWO, THE TWO SPEAKERS BEFORE ME, UM, KIND OF STOLE SOME OF MY THUNDER, SO I JUST WANNA RECAP.
PEOPLE, I HAVE A PROPERTY I'M JUST BUILDING.
YOU HAVE A PROPERTY THAT YOU LIVED IN 35 YEARS AGO, SAME TYPE OF PROPERTY.
MY POPULATION IS 16 AND ABOVE.
I PAY 45% MORE TAXES THAN YOU DO.
HOW CAN THAT BE FAIR? YOU OPEN YOURSELF UP TO POTENTIAL CHALLENGE NUMBER TWO.
THE SPEAKER RIGHT AFTER ME SAID, WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY IS WHAT GOVERNOR HOEL SAID.
I DON'T USUALLY AGREE WITH GOVERNOR HOEL, BY THE WAY I DO THIS TIME.
YOU COULD BE SETTING YOURSELF UP FOR PREVENTING THAT FROM HAPPENING.
AS SOON AS DEVELOPERS GET WIND OF WHAT'S GOING ON, THEY'RE GONNA BUILD RENTAL PROPERTIES.
HECK, IF I WASN'T SO FAR ALONG, THAT'S WHAT I'D BE DOING.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE A LOT OF THAT HAPPEN, WHETHER IT'S FOUR CORNERS OR ANYWHERE ELSE, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THE POSITION OF ELECTED OFFICIALS.
AGAIN, I'VE SPENT 25 YEARS IN PUBLIC LIFE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S THE PERVIEW OF PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO TRY TO MAKE A A MONEY GRAB.
I UNDERSTAND YOU GOTTA MAKE RATEABLES EQUAL YOUR EXPENSES.
BUT YOU'RE LOOKING TO TAKE MONEY BEFORE THINGS AREN'T EVEN BUILT.
AND YOU'RE GONNA PUT UP A WALL.
BELIEVE ME, DEVELOPERS GO, WE ARE THERE.
AND FINALLY, THE GENTLEMAN BEFORE ME JUST MADE A GREAT POINT.
THE WHOLE REASON THAT CONDOS IN THE SIXTIES WERE TREATED DIFFERENTLY IS BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT.
JUST BECAUSE A CONDO IS A MILLION BUCKS, IT DOESN'T LIVE LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE.
THERE IS ONE CENTRAL POINT WHERE GREENBERG PUBLIC WORKS WILL PICK UP THE GARBAGE IN, IN MY CASE, HASTINGS, WE'RE NOT GONNA NEED GREENBERG OR HASTINGS RECREATIONAL SERVICES.
WE HAVE ALL OF THAT IN OUR DEVELOPMENT.
95% OF OUR PEOPLE WON'T USE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT OF WHITE CONDOS WERE TAXED DIFFERENTLY 60, 70 YEARS AGO.
SO EITHER YOU CONTINUE TO BELIEVE THAT, WHICH I HOPE YOU WILL, AND I ASK THEM WHAT THIS IS ABOUT OR YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT.
AND AS A GENTLEMAN SAID BEFORE ME, THEN EVERYBODY SHOULD PAY THE SAME.
SO YOU EITHER BELIEVE THAT CONDOS LIVE DIFFERENTLY THAN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES OR YOU DON'T.
I HOPE THAT YOU RE-LOOK AT IT.
I HOPE THAT YOU DO BELIEVE WE WILL.
LOOK, WE WILL LIVE DIFFERENTLY THAN YOUR RESIDENTS IN SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
IT'S NOT ABOUT PRICE, IT'S ABOUT PEOPLE.
I LIVE IN HARTSDALE, NEW YORK.
DO DOES THIS APPLY TO SCHOOL TAXES AS WELL AS REAL ESTATE TAXES? THAT'S NOT CLEAR TO ME.
IF YOU PASS THIS LAW, DOES THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TAXES CHANGE THE SAME WAY? CAN SOMEBODY ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR ME PLEASE? YES.
DONE DOES APPLY TO SCHOOL TAXES AS WELL.
IT DOES, IT DOES APPLY TO SCHOOL TAXES AS WELL.
SO THEREFORE IT APPLIES TO ALL TAXES.
MANY, ALL TAXES BASED ON THE ASSESSMENT, ALL TAXES BASED ON THE ASSESSMENT.
UH, UH, THIS MANY OTHER ISSUES.
I'M THE, UH, PRESIDENT OF THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION IN, UH, JUNIPER HILL.
UH, MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
YOU KNOW, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE TO START.
UH, YOU KNOW, I, I DO HAVE A DEGREE IN ECONOMICS AND I, AND I, AND I KNOW THAT PRICES ARE DETERMINED BY SUPPLY AND DEMAND.
OKAY? AND ONE OF THE FACTORS OF SUPPLY IS HOW MUCH, HOW MANY UNITS ARE AVAILABLE.
ANOTHER PRI PART OF SU PRICE IS WHAT IS INCLUDED IN
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THAT, IN THAT ITEM THAT IS BEING SOLD.YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE ONE LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TUNA, FISH, AND CAVIAR.
OKAY? THEY'RE IN THE SAME BOX, IN THE SAME, SAME CONTAINER, AND THEY ARE PRICED DIFFERENTLY.
AND WHEN YOU GO AND, AND YOU PAY ACCORDING TO WHAT YOU'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO.
THE FAIRNESS QUESTION HERE HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT THE SETTING IS.
IT THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH HERE IS THE VALUATION OF THE PROPERTIES AND TO DEAL WITH ANY OTHER QUALITIES THAT ARE NOT, ARE, ARE NOT QUANTIFIABLE BY A MARKING MECHANISM.
IS, IS A, IS A STRAW ARGUMENT THAT IS BEING USED TO JUSTIFY CONDOMINIUMS PAYING LESS.
THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS MAYBE, MAYBE WHAT THE DEVELOPERS, AND I, I FEEL SORRY FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE SOMETHING ON THE PIPELINES, BUT WHAT THE DEVELOPERS ARE LOOKING IS TO BE ABLE TO SELL LOWER TAX RATES AS, AS A ATTRACTION TO GET MORE MONEY FOR THE PROPERTIES THEY'RE SELLING.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CHOOSE WHETHER THEY WANNA LIVE IN THE CONDOMINIUM, WHETHER THEY LIVE IN A PRIVATE HOME.
THAT'S THE PERSONAL CHOICE, OKAY? AND, AND IF THEY WANNA SPEND A MILLION DOLLARS FOR A HOME VERSUS A CONDOMINIUM, THEY DO IT NOT, NOT BE, NOT BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD ONE OR THE OTHER.
THEY CAN AFFORD SOMETHING FOR A MILLION DOLLARS AND THOSE TWO ITEMS SHOULD BE TAXED ACCORDING AT THE SAME RATE.
UNFORTUNATELY, WE DON'T, WE HAVE A SITUATION HERE THAT WE HAVE LOTS OF CONDOMINIUMS THAT WERE PRICED AT, AT A AT OR TAX, AT A DIFFERENT RATE BEFORE THIS LAW CAME ON THE BOOKS OR, OR THE, FOR THIS PUT FORTH TO BE PUT ON THE, ON, ON, ON THE BOOKS.
AND, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING GOING ON POLITICALLY, IT HAS TO BE IN THE STATE.
THE STATE HAS PREVENTED, PREVENTED EQUITY IN, IN, IN TAXATION FOREVER FOR POLITICAL REASONS.
NOT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE FAIR OR WANNA CREATE SOME QUANTITATIVE OR QUALITATIVE EQUITY.
THEY'RE PLAYING THE GAME OF POLITICS BECAUSE IT, THEY KNOW THAT IT NOT POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT TO, TO, TO TAX, TO TAX CONDOS AND CO-OPS AT THE SAME RATE.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A QUESTION OF FAIRNESS HERE, AND IF WE HAVE, IF WE CAN ADDRESS IT AT THE TOWN BOARD LEVEL, LET'S, LET'S DO IT.
THE CONSEQUENCES, WE, THERE ARE FEAR.
THERE'S A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FEAR MONGERING THAT GOING ON HERE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW THE RESULTS OF WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, I JUST, I THE CLARITY ABOUT THE, THE, UH, THE CONVERSIONS I, I THINK SHOULD BE DEALT WITH EVEN IF WE HAVE TO POSTPONE AND, AND PUT SOMETHING ELSE TOGETHER.
BUT CONVERSIONS HAVE TO BE DEALT WITH AS WELL.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS BEING TAKEN CARE OF.
BUT IT SEEMS THAT, UM, UH, FROM WHAT I HEARD, THE, THE LAW THAT PREVENTS PEOPLE FROM CONVERTING IS NOT AS STRONG AS IT OUGHT TO BE.
MAYBE WE SHOULD DO THAT FIRST BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD TO, UH, UH, MAKE THE CHANGES THAT THIS LAW, THIS LAW PROVIDES.
I WASN'T GOING TO SPEAK ON THIS, UM, HERE FOR ANOTHER ISSUE, BUT, UH, THIS CONCEPT OF FAIRNESS.
I LIVE IN A CONDOMINIUM, UH, AND I'LL BE SPEAKING ON AN ISSUE THAT AFFECTS MY CONDOMINIUM COMMUNITY, A REQUIREMENT THAT WE HAVE, THAT WE HAVE TO PROVIDE A JITNEY SERVICE, UH, FOR TRANSPORTATION TO AND FROM, UH, UH, THE COMMUNITY.
WHEN MY COMMUNITY WAS DEVELOPED, THAT WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT, UH, THE TOWN MADE AS A CONDITION.
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, REQUIREMENT.
YOU WOULDN'T, UH, REQUIRE THAT WHEN THEY'RE ZONING, BUT MY CONDOMINIUM HAS THAT REQUIREMENT.
WE'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DON'T PROVIDE.
YOU CAN'T MAKE EVERYTHING THE SAME THING.
CONDOMINIUMS HAVE, OR APARTMENT BUILDINGS HAVE CERTAIN COMMUNAL FUNCTIONS AND, AND, AND EFFICIENCIES THAT SINGLE FAMILY HOMES DON'T HAVE.
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PERSONAL INTEREST IN THIS LAW AT THIS TIME BECAUSE I'M GRANDFATHERED MY, UH, CONDO, UH, IS, UH, AS I UNDERSTAND THE LAW, UH, UH, WE'RE GRANDFATHERED BECAUSE WE'RE PREEXISTING AND THIS WILL NOT AFFECT US.SO I HAVE NO PERSONAL STAKE IN IT.
BUT FROM A, FROM A STANDPOINT OF FAIRNESS AND ALL, I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS FAIR TO TREAT, UH, CONDOMINIUM TAXATION THE SAME AS, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UH, AND I ALSO DO BELIEVE AS A LAWYER WHO WAS INVOLVED IN REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT, THAT IT WOULD DEPRESS, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF, UH, CONDOMINIUM BUILDINGS, WHICH I THINK IS A, IS A DETRIMENT TO US, UH, BECAUSE WE AIN'T MAKING MORE LAND AND WE NEED TO MAKE MORE HOUSING.
AND IT'S GOING TO, UH, I THINK DEPRESS THE DEVELOPMENT OF MULTI-FAMILY HOUSING BECAUSE OF THAT INEQUITY OF TREATING THEM THE SAME WAY.
YES, HAL, AT A WORK SESSION IN EARLY FEBRUARY, MR. FINE OR PRE RECUSAL INVITED THE TOWN ASSESSOR TO ADDRESS THE WORK SESSION.
AND MS. MCCARTHY CAME DUTIFULLY AND SAID, WELL, YES, THERE'S FOUR OTHER COMMUNITIES IN NEARBY IN NEW YORK STATE, WHICH HAVE SUCCEEDED IN GETTING THE HOME RULE EXCEPTION.
LIKE GREENBERG, NONE OF YOU ON THE TOWN, ON THE TOWN BOARD ASKS, WELL, HOW DOES IT ACTUALLY WORK IN THOSE PLACES? NOW, WE'VE HAD HEARINGS IN THIS ROOM ON MARIJUANA.
WE'VE HAD HEARINGS ON NOISE AND LEAF BLOWERS, AND ALWAYS YOU TELL US ABOUT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING.
SO, WHEN MS. MCCARTHY SPOKE AT THE WORK SESSION, AND SHE DIDN'T TELL US WHAT THESE OTHER COMMUNITIES WERE DOING, WHICH, BY THE WAY, ARE RYE, SLEEP, BEHI, HOLLOW, CLARKSTOWN, AND PELHAM, I WAS CURIOUS.
AND I SENT HER AN EMAIL AND SHE RESPONDED WITHOUT ANSWERING IT.
AND SHE RESPONDED AGAIN WITHOUT ANSWERING IT.
AND HERE'S ONE ON FEBRUARY 14TH, I'VE SENT HER FOUR EMAILS ABOUT THIS, ASKING HER, WHAT ARE OTHER COMMUNITIES DOING? MR. SAMS REFERENCES MADE IN MY PREVIOUS STATEMENT, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE MISSED, WAS THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL, WHICH WERE NAMED MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE ADOPTED THE HOMESTEAD EXEMPTION, WHICH IN PART DIRECTS ASSESSORS TO VALUE CONDOMINIUM UNITS BASED ON THEIR MARKET VALUE.
IF YOU NEED FURTHER CLARIFICATION AS TO HOW THE EXEMPTION IS ADMINISTERED OR PROPERTY IS VALUED, PLEASE LET ME KNOW, WHICH I DID TWO MORE TIMES.
SO IN, OH, ABOUT TWO MONTHS, THE ASSESSOR HAS FARED TO LET US KNOW HOW OTHER COMMUNITIES WITH THIS EXEMPTION ARE DEALING WITH IT.
AND AGAIN, I POINT OUT MARIJUANA LEAF BLOWERS NOISE, YOU'RE ALL THERE, ALL OVER THE PLACE WITH WHAT THE OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING.
SCARSDALE HERE, THIS AND THAT.
SO HOW COME WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT IN TERMS OF THE CONDOMINIUM LAW THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? I, MY SUSPICION IS MR. FINER GAVE INSTRUCTIONS TO MS. MCCARTHY NOT TO RESPOND.
AND I'M GIVING THE EMAIL AS PART OF THE RECORD SO THAT IT WILL EXIST WITH MS. MCCARTHY'S RESPONSES AND MY REQUEST TO HER, WHY AREN'T WE BEING TOLD THAT INFORMATION? NOW, LAWYERS KNOW IN COURT THAT YOU SHOULDN'T ASK A QUESTION THAT YOU DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO.
SO I'M TAKING A CHANCE, MAYBE IT'S GONNA BE HARSHER THAN IN GREENBURG, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AT LEAST HAVE THAT INFORMATION PROVIDED TO US.
NOW, THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION.
THIS WHOLE LAW WAS ABOUT RAISING REVENUE.
SO WE HAVE 4,500 EXISTING UNITS, GREENBURG, AND HOW MANY OTHER UNITS ARE GONNA BE BUILT AFTER 2023 WHEN THE TAXATION GOES INTO EFFECT 4,500? DO WE HAVE PROPERTIES THAT WILL ACCOMMODATE 4,500 UNITS? IS THERE ANY RESEARCH THAT THIS BOARD TOOK TO DETERMINE EXACTLY, OR EVEN CLOSE IN THE BALLPARK, HOW MANY UNITS WILL BE BUILT TO CREATE THIS REVENUE FLOW, WHICH THIS LAW IS ALL ABOUT?
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MY GUESS IS YOU HAVE NO IDEA.BECAUSE IN THIS MARKET TODAY, CERTAINLY WHERE DEVELOPERS ARE FACED WITH RISING LAND COSTS, RISING INTEREST RATES, RISING COSTS OF CONSTRUCTION, RISING LABOR, WHAT THEY DO NOT NEED IS TO HAVE THEIR TENANTS OR FUTURE PURCHASES PAY HIGHER TAXES THAN THE EXISTING CONDO UNITS ARE GOING TO BUILD.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE DON'T LIVE IN AN ISLAND.
THERE ARE COMMUNITIES ALL AROUND US, WHICH WILL DO NOT AND WILL NOT HAVE THIS LAW.
SO MY SUSPICION IS THAT DEVELOPERS WILL NOT DEVELOP IN GREENBERG, THEY WILL GO ELSEWHERE.
NOW, I FIND THIS WHOLE THING, YOU KNOW, CONFUSING AND, AND, AND SIR, YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE A STAKE IN THIS BECAUSE AS A, AN EXISTING CONDO OWNER, YOU ARE PAYING LESS IN TAXES THAN THE SAME UNIT BUILT IN 2023, AND YOU HAVE FOREVER.
NOW, WHY HASN'T THE TOWN ASSESSOR ADDRESSED THIS? I ASKED A REASONABLE QUESTION.
CERTAINLY, IF YOU WANNA READ THE WRITTEN RECORD, YOU CAN SEE MY EMAIL.
OR IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE THIS COMMUNICATION, SEND ME HOW MARK, H A L M A R C@AOL.COM AND I WILL FORWARD IT TO YOU.
SO I THINK THIS HEARING NEEDS TO BE CONTINUED AND CONTINUED.
ANYBODY ELSE, ANYONE ELSE ON THIS HEARING TO CLOSE? SHOULD WE, SHOULD WE CLOSE SINCE IT'S THE SECOND, UH, PUBLIC HEARING, WE MOVE TO CLOSE AND CLOSE? KEEP, KEEP THE RECORD OPEN FOR FIVE DAYS.
UH, SO, UH, MOVE TO CLOSE THE HEARING.
KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL MONDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
MONDAY, WHAT DAY? MONDAY AT 5:00 PM THIS COMING MONDAY.
THAT'S AN UNUSUALLY SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, ISN'T IT? ALL RIGHT.
THE NEXT, THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO FEW DAYS, THOSE HAVE, HAVE ACCUSED THEMSELVES FROM THIS HEARING.
KEN, WHAT TIME WAS THAT? MONDAY AT WHAT TIME? FIVE O'CLOCK.
SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO FIVE O'CLOCK.
YOU SAY MONDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
YOU CAN PUT IT IN WRITTEN COMMENTS.
UH, UNTIL MONDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
SO THE PUBLIC HEARING IS CONTINUED UNTIL MONDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
THE RECORD IS KEPT OPEN UNTIL MONDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
AND FOR THE RATIFICATION, WE DID GET, UH, A LETTER FROM THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS ON HUDSON, WHICH YOU MIGHT WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT AS WELL.
WHO SECOND THAT MOTION, FRANCIS? I DID.
AND WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR PAUL AND ELLEN TO RETURN, I WOULD LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK TOWN ATTORNEY JOE DANKO, COUNCILMAN KEN JONES, AND COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEN FOR HANDLING THE DUTIES OF THE TOWN CLERK THIS EVENING.
UNTIL I ARRIVED, I HAD A PERSONAL MATTER TO ATTEND TO, AND I JUST WANT TO THANK THEM.
THINK THAT THEIR, UM, SUPPORT DEMONSTRATED TEAMWORK.
WAIT, WE'RE UP TO, UH, WILDWOOD.
[ To consider a request for a modification with respect to a previously approved Site Plan Application of Wyldwood Condominium and Homeowners Association, for property located at Wyldwood Drive (P.O. Tarrytown, NY)]
MOVE THAT WE OPEN UP A HEARING TO CONSIDER A REQUEST FOR A MODIFICATION WITH RESPECT TO A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN APPLICATION OF WILDWOOD CONDOMINIUM AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT WILDWOOD DRIVE, UM, IN TARRYTOWN.WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
UM, AARON, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK TO THIS? YES.
GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR FINDER AND MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE RECORD, AARON SCHMIDT, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
THIS PUBLIC HEARING PERTAINS TO A REQUEST FROM THE WILDWOOD CONDOMINIUM AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION TO HAVE AMENDED A REQUIREMENT TO OPERATE A SHUTTLE FOR ITS RESIDENTS TO THE NEAREST METRO NORTH TRAIN STATION, WHICH HAPPENS TO BE THE TERRYTOWN TRAIN STATION.
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AN 86 UNIT RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY AND ONE OF SEVERAL PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENTS HERE IN, IN THE TOWN.UPON REFERRAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD, THE PLANNING BOARD REVIEWED THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST, AND ON MARCH 1ST, 2023 ISSUED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD.
THE PLANNING BOARD IS PART OF ITS RECOMMENDATION, RECOMMENDED THAT THE PETITION BE MODIFIED TO REFLECT THAT THE ALTERNATIVE TRANSPORTATION PROVIDED TO THE WILDWOOD RESIDENCE BE DONE.
SO AT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO ANY SUCH RESIDENTS THAT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE SERVICE.
MR. MATTHEW SCHWARZ, ATTORNEY ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT IS HERE TO PRESENT THE REQUEST AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE.
I TURN IT OVER TO MR. SCHWARTZ.
THIS IS INDICATED BY MR. SCHMIDT.
I'M THE ATTORNEY THAT HAS THE PRIVILEGE OF REPRESENTING WILDWOOD CONDOMINIUM.
UM, AS WAS INDICATED, THE COMMUNITY IS AN 86 UNIT CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX THAT PURSUANT TO ITS ORIGINAL DECLARATION, WAS REQUIRED TO PROVIDE A JITNEY SERVICE IN THE MORNINGS AND EVENINGS, UH, FOR TRANSPORTATION TO THE SELECTED TRAIN STATION.
THE COMMUNITY PROVIDED THAT SERVICE TO ALL ITS RESIDENTS UP THROUGH AND INCLUDING THE PANDEMIC.
BUT WHEN THE PANDEMIC BEGAN, THE SERVICE WAS DISCONTINUED BECAUSE, NUMBER ONE, THE COMMUNITY DIDN'T REQUIRE IT ANYMORE.
NO ONE WAS TRAVELING INTO THE CITY.
AND NUMBER TWO, UH, THE PROVIDER WHO DID PROVIDE THAT SERVICE PREVIOUSLY FOR MANY YEARS CEASED PROVIDING THAT SERVICE.
UH, WHEN PEOPLE STARTED TO RETURN TO WORK, THE COMMUNITY LOOKED AT RESUMING THAT SERVICE.
THEY FOUND IT TO BE COST PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE.
UH, THAT SERVICE COST, I WANNA SAY FOUR TIMES.
THE, THE PRE PANDEMIC COST IS WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE COSTING TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE ON A GOING FORWARD BASIS.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE COMING TO THE BOARD TO REQUEST IS A MODIFICATION TO THE SET OF RECORDED DOCUMENTS TO ALLOW US TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS.
INSTEAD OF PROVIDING A CONTINUOUS SHUTTLE, UH, IN THE MORNINGS, IN THE AFTERNOONS TO SELECT TRAIN STATIONS.
UH, IT'S BEING DONE SO FOR ECONOMIC REASONS TO SAVE THE COMMUNITY MONEY, BUT ALSO, UH, FOR ENVIRONMENTAL PURPOSES.
WE DON'T NEED TO RUN A PASSENGER SHUTTLE WHEN NO ONE'S USING IT AND WE DON'T NEED TO PAY FOR IT.
UH, OUR PROPOSAL THAT WE SUBMITTED WAS VERY SPECIFIC IN LANGUAGE THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO PROVIDE IT IN THE WAY THAT THE BOARD OF MANAGERS OF THE COMMUNITY SELECTED.
THAT BOARD OF MANAGERS IS ELECTED BY THE COMMUNITY SUCH AS YOURSELVES IN THE SENSE THAT THEY'RE ELECTED BY THEIR CONSTITUENTS.
SO IF THE COMMUNITY'S NOT HAPPY WITH THE LEVEL OF SERVICE IS BEING PROVIDED AND NOT HAPPY WITH THE BOARD IN MAKING A DECISION AS TO HOW TO PROVIDE THAT SERVICE, WELL, THE COMMUNITY CAN BRING ON A NEW BOARD AND MODIFY THE SERVICE TO BE PROVIDED.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IN PRESENTING THE LANGUAGE IS TRYING TO AVOID HAVING, HAVING TO DO THIS PROCESS OVER AGAIN.
IF WE LIMITED THE SERVICE TO, LET'S SAY, CAB SERVICE, AND LATER ON WE WANNA RESUME SHUTTLE SERVICE, WE WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE YOU, WHEREAS OUR LANGUAGE IS PRESENTED IS IN SUCH A WAY THAT PROVIDES THE BOARD THE RIGHT TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS, IF YOU HAVE ANY.
UH, WE HAVE A MEMBER OF THE BOARD HERE THAT WOULD ALSO LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
SO BA SO BASICALLY, RIGHT NOW, THE CONDO OWNERS ARE PAYING FOR THE SERVICE THROUGH THEIR MAINTENANCE.
IT'S PART OF THEIR MAINTENANCE OBLIGATION, CORRECT? RIGHT.
IT'S, IT'S PART AND PARCEL OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE PROVIDED BY THE COMMUNITY, UM, IN CONNECTION WITH THEIR MONTHLY SERVICE FEE.
RIGHT? SO IF WE BASICALLY SAY THEY HAVE TO DO IT, THEIR MAINTENANCE IS GONNA GO UP.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF, UM, I'M SAYING IT'S GONNA STAY, IS GONNA BE HIGH, IF, UH, IF WE SAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO, THEY COULD DISCONTINUE IT.
THEIR, THEIR COST OF LIVING IN THE CONDO WILL BE, YOU KNOW, LESS EXPENSIVE, POSSIBLY, CORRECT? WELL, WE'RE NOT PROVIDING IT RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THE COST TO DO THE EXACT JITNEY SERVICE WOULD BE PROHIBITIVELY EXPENSIVE.
WE ARE PROVIDING THE RESIDENTS WITH TRANSPORTATION AS AN ONGOING BASIS, JUST LIKE AS WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING.
UH, BUT WE'RE JUST HOPING TO BE ALLOWED THAT MODIFICATION SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
BUT YES, IF YOU REQUIRE THAT WE CONTINUE THE JITNEY SERVICE, THE COST ON FOR EACH UNIT OWNER WOULD GO UP SUBSTANTIALLY.
JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA, UH, SUPERVISOR, UH, OUR OVERALL OPERATING BUDGET IS ABOUT $500,000.
UH, PRE C O V I D, THE JITNEY COST WAS $50,000.
SO A 10TH OF THE OVERALL OPERATING BUDGET.
I WAS GETTING 200,000 QUOTES FOR $200,000 TO PROVIDE THE JITNEY SERVICE POST COVID.
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A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT.I WOULD LIKE TO EMPHASIZE, AGAIN, MY NAME'S FRANK HYMAN, 14 WILDWOOD.
UM, I'D LIKE TO EMPHASIZE WHEN WE CAME TO THE BOARD, THE ENTIRE THRUST IS WE WANT TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES, UH, TO THE TARRYTOWN STATION.
WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET OUT OF THAT OBLIGATION.
IT'S A SELLING POINT FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
IT'S A BENEFIT FOR, UH, THE RESIDENTS WHO, WHO USE IT.
I USED TO USE IT, UH, PRE COVID, UH, AND ALL.
WE ARE JUST TRYING TO GET FLEXIBILITY TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO DO IT ON A COST EFFECTIVE BASIS.
WE BELIEVE WE HAVE A SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO, UH, WORK FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
UM, AND, UH, WE WANT TO USE IT.
WE, UH, DRAFTED THE LANGUAGE TO GIVE US, AS OUR ATTORNEY SAID, FLEXIBILITY SO THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM.
IF WE NEED TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS, WE'LL MAKE MODIFICATIONS.
UM, WE'RE A UNIT OWNER BOARD, YOU KNOW, WE ALL LIVE THERE.
SO WE ALL HAVE THE STAKE IN IT, UH, TO MAKE IT WORK FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO I I JUST WANNA EMPHASIZE AGAIN, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES.
WE THINK IT'S A BENEFIT FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
WE JUST GOTTA HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY TO FIGURE OUT THE RIGHT WAYS.
I'M MARY BODEN, DALE, NEW YORK.
I LOOK, I LOOK AT THIS AS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.
IN THE PAST, IT DIDN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE HOW MANY TIMES THE BUS VAN BACK AND FORTH AT THE PRESENT TIME, MY WIFE IS IN, UH, SAN ANTONIO, TEXAS VISITING HER FAMILY.
AND THE TRANSPORTATION FROM THE AIRPORT TO THE HOUSE WAS VIA A UBER, UBER TYPE FACILITY.
I HADN'T INTENDED TO SPEAK ON THIS, BUT BECAUSE OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF IT, WE NEED TO LOOK DIFFERENTLY AT SHARING RIDES ON A BASIS THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE COMPANY, THE CONDOMINIUM, TO HAVE THE SERVICE AS A FIXED UNIT WITH BUSES.
WE HAVE TO GIVE THEM THE CHANCE TO COME UP WITH A NEW WAY OF DOING IT.
THAT IS ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND, WHICH MEANS MAKING A RESERVATION OR SHARING ONE VEHICLE AS NEEDED TO A FACILITY LIKE UBER OR SOMETHING LIKE IT.
NEW YORK CITY IS MOVING FROM YELLOW CABS TO AN ON-DEMAND SERVICE THROUGHOUT THE INDUSTRY.
THE CONCEPT OF A HAIL CAB DRIVING AROUND THE NEW YORK CITY WILL END WITHIN THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
THAT'S RATHER SOMETHING THAT I WOULD NEVER HAVE IMAGINED TO HAPPEN.
WE'RE IN A WORLD WHERE WE NEED TO CONSERVE RESOURCES AND THINK OF NEWS WAYS OF DOING THINGS.
WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY TO COME UP WITH A WAY TO SHARE RIDES ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS WITH THE FEWEST CARS NEEDED.
THE KIDS DO IT WITH THEIR PHONES.
PLEASE GIVE THEM THE FLEXIBILITY AND LET 'EM COME BACK HERE NEXT YEAR AND TELL YOU HOW THEY'RE GOING TO CONSERVE RESOURCES IN THE VEHICLES AND STILL PREFERRED SERVICES AS NEEDED.
WOULD ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING? SO, I, I HAVE, UM, SOME COMMENTS.
THE, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, BUT THE WORDING CHANGE.
I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION IN SOME YEAR DOWN THE LINE WHEN THIS CAME UP EARLIER.
UH, BUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS TAKING ANY JURISDICTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OUT OF THE DISCUSSION BECAUSE THAT WORDING IS BEING REMOVED.
IT'S GOING TO BE SOLELY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD OF MANAGERS AS TO WHAT DO, WHEN YOU WILL DO IT, HOW YOU WILL DO IT.
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IN THE CURRENT WORDING IT IS THAT IT COULD ONLY BE CHANGED BASED ON THE TOWN BOARD APPROVING THE CHANGE AFTER REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD.THAT LANGUAGE HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT.
SO IF THERE IS AN ISSUE WITH WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING OR YOU'RE NOT DOING WHAT YOU SAY YOU'RE GOING TO DO, UM, IT BECOMES A CIVIL MATTER BETWEEN YOU AND YOUR RESIDENTS AND THE TOWN.
I DON'T SEE HOW THE TOWN HAS ANY JURISDICTION.
IF WE APPROVE THIS CHANGE, TAKING OUT OUR OVERSIGHT INTO THAT, THIS WAS GOING TO WORK.
IS THAT A FAIR STATEMENT? I HEAR YOU.
UM, LEMME SAY THIS, IF YOU COULD JUST TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO YOU.
WE, WE'VE NOT BEEN PROVIDING THE JITNEY SERVICE 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PROVIDER.
UH, AND ANY ALTERNATIVES WE'VE COME UP WITH, OUR INSURANCE CARRIERS HAVE TOLD US, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE THIS COVENANT IN EFFECT, UH, WHOEVER, IF YOU TRY TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE DIRECT, WE'RE GONNA CANCEL YOUR INSURANCE FOR THE WHOLE CONDO.
OKAY? SO WE'RE FROZEN AT THE MOMENT.
WE'RE NOW A YEAR INTO TRYING TO PROVIDE OUR, OUR, OUR OWNERS WITH A SERVICE.
UH, WE FIRST MADE OUR APPLICATION FIVE, SIX MONTHS AGO OR SO.
THERE'S GONNA BE INHERENT DELAYS.
IF THERE WAS SOMETHING I I, MY CONCERN IS IF I HAVE TO COME BACK HERE EVERY TIME, IT, IT'S GONNA GET BOIC UP.
WE WERE TRYING, 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO AVOID THE SERVICE, WHICH IS WHAT WE FEEL YOU WANT US TO DO.
WE HAVE NOT PUT IN THERE ANY FLEXIBILITY TO NOT PROVIDE A SERVICE, RIGHT? WE'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION SERVICES TO OUR UNIT OWNERS.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE THINK YOU WANT US TO DO.
HOW WE DO IT, YOU KNOW, IN THE OLD DAYS, I GUESS IT WAS LEGITLY, IT SEEMED RIGHT.
SO TO ME, WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT YOU WANT, BUT NOT TRYING TO, TO AVOID THE DELAYS AND PROBLEMS AND MICROMANAGING, IF YOU WILL.
SO, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IF THE, IF THE, UM, IF THIS COVENANT THAT REQUIRES THE JITNEY IS REMOVED, YOUR INSURERS WILL COVER THE ALTERNATIVE FORMS OF TRANSPORTATION THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING TO TAKE RESIDENCE TO AND FROM.
RIGHT NOW, OUR CARRIER HAS TOLD US THAT IF WE DO A REIMBURSEMENT PROGRAM SO THAT THEY USE AN UBER, UH, AND COLLECTIVE, THEN YES.
THAT, THAT THEY'RE HAPPY WITH IT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT PROVIDE, BUT IF WE PROVIDE THE SERVICE, IF YOU WILL, IN SOME MANNER, UM, DIRECTLY, INDIRECTLY, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT SERVICE.
WE, WE, WE THOUGHT OF LIKE HIRING A CAB, FOR EXAMPLE.
UH, UH, HAVE OUR CAB SERVICE BE ON CALL? NO.
THE CARRIER SAID, NOPE, YOU'RE PROVIDING THAT SERVICE.
THAT CARRIER HAS TO HAVE A MILLION DOLLAR LIABILITY, WHICH THE CAB SERVICES AROUND HERE AREN'T GONNA HAVE.
UM, AND SO, UH, THEY, THEY, WE WON'T HAVE INSURANCE.
WE, I WANNA BE CLEAR, I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU DO ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS I THINK IT SHOULD END WITH SATISFACTORY TO THE TOWN.
AND IF THERE'S NO OBJECTION, I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO COME BACK FOR APPROVAL AFTER APPROVAL AFTER APPROVAL.
WELL, WELL, IT'S SIMPLY THAT IF YOU DO SOMETHING THAT'S OFF, UH, OH, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO USE A EXPRESSION I SHOULDN'T USE.
IF YOU'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT'S OFF THE WALL, OFF THE WALL, OFF THE WALL, UM, THEN, THEN AT LEAST IT WOULD NOT JUST BE A CIVIL MATTER BETWEEN YOU AND THE RESIDENTS.
UH, IT KEEPS SOME LEVEL OF JURISDICTION, BUT YOU COULD DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.
BUT THE WORDING OF THIS IS, UH, THE, UH, IN A MANNER DETERMINED BY THE BOARD OF MANAGERS FROM TIME TO TIME, WHICH MAY BE BY PROVIDING A SHUTTLE REIMBURSEMENT FOR A CAB OR SERVICE OR SUCH OTHER METHODS ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF MANAGERS.
AND, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE OBJECTION WOULD BE TO HAVING THAT LANGUAGE.
IT'S LESS THAN WHAT'S IN THERE BEFORE NOW, WHERE THE TOWN BOARD CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS IT REFERS IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA TAKE TIME.
I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU HAVE TO COME BACK FOR
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US AT ALL, EXCEPT IT KEEPS LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT GIVES US SOME OVERSIGHT.BUT JUST WITH RESPECT, WE HAVE A COMMUNITY.
WE'RE ONLY SERVING A VERY LIMITED COMMUNITY.
YOU ARE EMBODIED WITH SERVING ALL THE RESIDENTS OF GREENBURG.
WE'RE PROVIDING A SERVICE TO 86 UNIT OWNERS WHO ELECT THE BOARD.
SO IF UNIT OWNERS ARE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE SERVICE THAT THEY'RE BEING PROVIDED WITH BY THEIR BOARD, OUR GOVERNING DOCUMENTS, WHICH ARE RECORDED DECLARATIONS GIVE THOSE UNIT OWNERS THE RIGHT TO REMOVE THAT BOARD BY A VOTE OF THE UNIT OWNERS IN A MUCH MORE EFFECTIVE MANNER BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE DIRECTLY IMPACTED BY THIS SERVICE.
YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD HATE TO HAVE TO COME AND SPEND TIME BEFORE THIS BOARD WHEN WE ARE DEALING WITH SUCH A SMALL MICROCOSM OF THE COMMUNITY, WHEN THE COMMUNITY ALREADY HAS A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES THAT THEY WANT ARE BEING PROVIDED TO THEM AND THEIR NEIGHBORS.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT THAT SYSTEM IN PLACE ALREADY.
SO TO HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF, YOU KNOW, SUPERVISORY CONTROL, I DON'T PERSONALLY THINK IS REQUIRED.
BECAUSE IF THE UNIT OWNERS ARE UNHAPPY, THEY'VE GOT A MUCH EASIER METHODOLOGY OF SOLVING THEIR CONCERN AND THEIR GRIEVANCE THAN HAVING US HAVING TO COME BACK HERE AND ASK FOR CHANGES.
BECAUSE AS WAS INDICATED, WE'RE FIVE OR SIX MONTHS IN THE MAKING FOR THIS.
SO IF PEOPLE AREN'T HAPPY EVERY YEAR, THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS CHANGE.
WHAT IF THEY, WE JUST SAID, CAN I JUST BE NOTIFIED? CAN I JUST, CAN I JUST, THE TEMP BOARD WOULD BE NOTIFIED RATHER THAN HAVE TO GET APPROVAL.
NOTIFIED DOESN'T GIVE YOU JURISDICTION.
THE SAME SITUATION WHERE YOU HAVE BOARD OF DIRECTORS, BOARD OF MANAGERS, I GUESS YOU CALL IT, EXISTED WHEN THIS BOARD GAVE APPROVALS FOR THIS.
NO, IT DIDN'T BECAUSE YOU GAVE APPROVALS FOR THIS WHEN IT WAS BEING DEVELOPED.
THERE WAS A SINGLE SPONSOR WHO WAS BUILDING OUT THIS PROJECT WHO CONTROLLED THE BOARD.
SO AT THE INCEPTION, AND BY THE WAY, THIS SERVICE WASN'T REQUIRED TO BE PROVIDED UNTIL HALF THE UNITS WERE BUILT.
UM, AT THE INCEPTION, YOU HAD ONE DEVELOPER WHO CONTROLLED THAT BOARD, IF THAT DEVELOPER ELECTED TO, RIGHT? THAT DEVELOPER COULD HAVE BUILT ALL 86 UNITS AND RENTED ALL 86 UNITS AND RUN A RENTAL COMMUNITY.
AND THEY WOULD'VE CONTROLLED THE BOARD AND THEREFORE COULD HAVE ELECTED IN THEIR OWN ACCORD NOT TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE.
IF THE LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD EXISTED THEN.
NOW THE COMMUNITY IS ENTIRELY SOLD, MADE UP OF 86 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS, EACH ONE OF WHOM HAS A SAY AND A VOTE IN THE CONTROL OF THE BOARD.
SO I UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT ENTIRELY, BUT THE DIFFERENTIAL BETWEEN THEN AND NOW IS THEN YOU HAD ONE PERSON WHO CONTROLLED EVERYTHING BECAUSE THEY WERE DEVELOPING IT.
AND NOW WE HAVE 86 PEOPLE WHO, IF ANY OF THEM ARE UPSET, HAVE THE ABILITY TO VOICE THEIR CONCERN WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND SO YOU ARE STATING THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE DON'T USE THIS KIDNEY SERVICE AT ALL.
THAT'S SO HAVING 86 PEOPLE VOTING, YOU'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE, YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE MINORITY.
YOU'RE NOT TAKING CARE OF THE MINORITY.
AND THIS WAS A BIG ISSUE AS TO THIS SERVICE.
WHEN THE APPROVAL WENT THROUGH, IT WAS MORE ONEROUS IN WHAT, IN OTHER WORDS, WHAT YOU'RE ASKING US TO CHANGE, IT WAS MORE ONEROUS.
'CAUSE IT HAD TO COME TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THAT HAD TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
WE HAD TO GET A RECOMMENDATION.
IT WOULD THEN COME BACK TO US.
AND YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WELL, YOU'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS NOW.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SUGGESTING YOU HAVE TO DO ANY OF THAT.
IT JUST, THE LANGUAGE THAT I'M PROPOSING WOULD GIVE SOME LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT WITHOUT US BEING ABLE TO SAY TO TO, TO THE MINORITY THAT, I'M SORRY, THIS IS A PERSONAL MATTER NOW AND YOU HAVE TO HANDLE THIS CIVIL, THE THE ONLY THING THAT I SORT OF FAILED IS THIS IS A CONDUCT.
UM, BASICALLY THEY ARE ALL PAYING MAINTENANCE.
LIKE WITH THE AVALON, IT WAS, IT WAS A COMMERCIAL VENTURE, AND WE SAID THEY SHOULD GIVE MONEY FOR, UM, I THINK, UM, A SIDEWALK, WHICH THEY DID.
BUT THIS IS SORT OF A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE IT'S NOT A PROFIT MAKING ENTITY.
UM, IF THE PEOPLE AT THE CONDO DECIDE THEY DON'T WANT TO PROVIDE, UH, SHUTTLE SERVICE, UM, AND BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS A CAR AND NOBODY'S USING THE SHUTTLE SERVICE, I DON'T FEEL THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE, UM, IN THE BUSINESS OF TELLING THEM THAT THEY HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, SPEND $200,000 ON A SHUTTLE SERVICE THAT NOBODY'S GONNA USE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S LIKE A WASTE OF MONEY.
IT'S, TO ME, IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY.
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I, AND I HOPE YOU RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.NO, BUT I'M NOT, I'M NOT ASKING THEM TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAN WHAT THEY WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW.
NO, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING THAT AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED.
I FEEL I'D RATHER NOT HAVE TO, LIKE, HERE, TO ME, THEY'RE A CONDO.
THEY'RE PAYING TAXES TO THE TOWN.
YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD BE THEIR SELF-GOVERNING BODY.
AND FOR ME, I DON'T FEEL THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR ME TO BE TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO WITH THEIR TRANSPORTATION, BECAUSE WE DON'T DO IT FOR, YOU KNOW, MOST CONDOS, THE PLANNING BOARD, WHEN, UM, WHEN THEY APPROVE CONDOS OR CO-OPS OR, UH, DEVELOPMENTS IN THE FUTURE, MAYBE THE WORDING SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MORE, A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THERE WON'T BE THESE REQUIREMENTS, OR THERE'LL BE AN ESCAPE CLAUSE, YOU KNOW, SAYING AFTER A COUPLE YEARS IF NOBODY USES IT OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE PROBLEM WAS WITH THE WAY THE APPROVALS WERE GRANTED.
BUT, SO, SO WOULD YOU REMOVE NEY SERVICES FROM ANY OF THE CONDOS THAT MAY HAVE THEM IMPOSED? I DON'T THINK THAT THE, I DON'T KNOW OF A LOT OF CONDOS THAT HAVE THE JITNEY SERVICES.
I, I, I DON'T, WHEN I LOOKED AROUND BACK IN THE DAY WHEN I WAS TRYING TO BUY, THIS IS THE ONLY PLACE THAT HAD ONE.
UM, BUT I CAN'T THAT, THAT'S NOT A SCIENTIFIC, UH, SURVEY.
BUT THERE, THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT WE IMPOSE AS CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
JITNEY ARE NOT, BUT WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE SUPERVISOR, IF IT'S A CONDO, THEY SHOULD JUST RELY ON THEIR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
BUT THE RESIDENTS, WHEN WE ALLOW BUILDINGS TO OCCUR, DEVELOPMENTS TO OCCUR, THE PUBLIC LOOKS TO US TO PUT SOME SAFEGUARDS IN THERE.
AND WHEN WE PUT THEM IN THERE, I THINK WE HAVE RESPONSIBILITY TO HONOR THOSE.
WELL, I, I, I, I THINK THAT WHEN, I THINK THAT WHEN THE, WHEN THE, WHEN THE, UM, WHEN THIS WAS CONCEIVED OF, AND THE SPONSOR HAD CONTROL OF ALL OF THE UNITS, UM, IT MADE MORE SENSE.
AND AS TIME HAS GONE BY, UM, I THINK IT'S BECOME OBSOLETE.
AND I DON'T SEE ANY REASON FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO RE RETAIN THIS PARTICULAR JURISDICTION OVER WHAT I THINK THE RESIDENTS OF THE CONDOMINIUM, UM, SHOULD BE, SHOULD BE ABLE TO HANDLE, UM, THROUGH THEIR ANNUAL ELECTION OF DIRECTORS.
SO I JUST, JUST TO POINT OUT ONE THING.
THE UNIT OWNERS IN THIS COMMUNITY WERE MADE AWARE OF THIS MEETING ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS.
THE RESIDENTS OF THE COMMUNITY WERE MADE AWARE OF THIS ON TWO SEPARATE OCCASIONS.
NO ONE, NO ONE'S HERE, NO ONE'S BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.
THE COMMUNITY IS PLEASED WITH THE SERVICES THAT THEIR BOARD IS PROVIDING AND HAS BEEN PROVIDING.
SO IT'S, IT IS, WE'RE REALLY HERE JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD CAN CONTINUE TO DO WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING.
WELL, YOU'VE BEEN, YOU'VE BEEN, YOU'VE SAID THAT YOU'RE NOT PROVIDING IT.
SO YOU THINK THAT THEY'RE HAPPY WITH IT NOT BEING PROVIDED? NO, NO.
WE, WE'VE TOLD THE COMMUNITY WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON.
I MEAN, WE HAVE TO TELL OUR UNIT OWNERS, RIGHT? UH, WE TOLD 'EM ABOUT THE INSURANCE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAD AND HOW WE WERE STRUGGLING WITH TRYING TO FIND ALTERNATIVES.
AND THAT WE CAME UP WITH THIS PROGRAM AND WE TOLD THEM THAT WE'RE COMING TO, UH, UH, THE BOARD TO, TO GET, UH, TO THE TOWN TO GET THIS, UH, APPROVED.
SO EVERY STEP OF THE WAY, UH, WE'VE BEEN TELLING PEOPLE WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, AND I, I GUESS THEY'RE SATISFIED THAT WE'RE, HAVE, HAVE THEIR INTERESTS AT HEART.
'CAUSE THAT'S OUR, THAT IS OUR FIDUCIARY DUTY AS, UH, THE BOARD.
UM, UH, WHICH IT IS, IT'S FIDUCIARY DUTY AS OPPOSED TO THE COMMERCIAL LANDLORD WHO HAS A PROFIT MOTIVE.
UH, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT FOR PROFIT.
WE HAVE TO SERVE OUR RESIDENTS, OUR, OUR OWNERS.
UM, SO, UH, AS MATT SAID, NO ONE'S HERE TO OPPOSE WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
I THINK THEY'RE HAPPY WITH US TRYING TO GET THIS PROPOSAL THROUGH.
I MEAN, IF I USE THAT LOGIC, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ABOUT 46,000 PEOPLE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE TOWERS IN GREENBERG.
SO THEY MUST BE HAPPY WITH THE CONDO LEGISLATION, RIGHT? PERHAPS, RIGHT,
SO WE HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.
ANYBODY ELSE? ALL RIGHT, PAUL.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
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RESOLVED AT A WORK SESSION.I JUST HAVE TO REPORT BACK AS TO NO, THEN WE'LL HAVE, UH, ANOTHER, WE HAVE TO ACT ON THIS OUT OF TOWN BOARD MEETING, ANOTHER TOWN MEETING.
SO IT WOULD PROBABLY BE TWO WEEKS FROM NOW.
AND THEN THAT WILL OBVIOUSLY BE NOBODY SPEAKING.
THAT'S JUST PART OF THE RESOLUTION.
TO GET WHEN EVERYBODY, UH, AGREE THAT WE COULD VOTE ON THIS IN TWO WEEKS.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE THE, YOU THINK WOULD BE READY.
I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM VOTING, VOTING ON.
WELL, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA COMMIT MYSELF TO, YOU KNOW, WE ARE LEAVING THE RECORD OPEN.
AND TO SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA DO IT HELL OR HIGH WATER, UH, I'M NOT AGREEABLE TO THAT.
UH, BUT GENERALLY, WELL, NOT GENERALLY ALWAYS.
IT, IT APPEARS ON A TOWN BOARD AGENDA.
THERE'S A PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IN ADVANCE OF THAT.
SO IF YOU DIDN'T LIKE WORDING OR WHATEVER IT WAS, YOU'D HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY SOMETHING IF YOU WANTED TO.
[ To consider an agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and the Village of Elmsford to provide Fire Protection Services to residents of the West Elmsford Fire Protection District, for the year 2023, for an amount not to exceed $272,324.96]
UH, TO CONSIDER AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO RESIDENTS OF WEST ELMSFORD FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR THE YEAR 2023.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR.
SO THIS AYE, THIS IS A, UH, CONTRACT THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS CONSIDERING GOING IN, UH, ENTERING INTO WITH THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD FOR AN AREA OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
NOT COVERED BY, UH, HARTSDALE, GREENVILLE OR FAIRVIEW FIRE DISTRICTS.
UM, CALLED THE WEST ELMSFORD FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR THE YEAR, UH, 2023.
THE PROPO, THE COST OF THAT BASED ON ASSESSED VALUES AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREA VERSUS THE VILLAGE OF ELFORD.
THE BREAKDOWN IS FOR TWENTY TWENTY THREE, TWO HUNDRED AND SEVENTY $2,324 AND 96 CENTS.
UH, THAT IS A $5,000, APPROXIMATELY $5,000 DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT CONTRACT, MARY BOWDEN.
THE ISSUE OF FIRE PROTECTION HAS BECOME THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.
FIREHOUSES AND FIRE DISTRICTS WERE DESIGNED A HUNDRED, 200 YEARS AGO WHEN THE HORSE AND WAGONS AND THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, THE LOCAL BUSINESSMAN CLOSED HIS BUSINESS.
HE WAS A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN AND THEY WENT AND PUT THE FIRE OUT.
TODAY, THERE IS NO LOCAL VOLUNTEER FIREMEN.
THEY'RE ALL PAID VIRTUALLY EVERYWHERE YOU GO IN THIS AREA AND OTHER AREAS, THERE'S A SIGN WE NEED VOLUNTEERS FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
BUT THE REALITY IS NOBODY CAN LEAVE THEIR JOB TO GO DRIVE A FIRE TRUCK ANYMORE.
WE HAVE A FIREHOUSE ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
FOUR CORNERS SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLOSED YEARS AGO.
THERE'S ONE RIGHT UP THE HILL, NOT VERY FAR AWAY.
WE PAY IN TAXES THE SAME AMOUNT FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN OF GREENBURG SERVICES, PARKS, RECREATION, SANITATION, FOOD, EVERYTHING ELSE AS WE PAY FOR FIRE.
IT'S A SYSTEM THAT'S OUTMODED AND HAS TO CHANGE.
THERE SHOULD BE ONE FIRE CHIEF THAT COVERS THE ENTIRE DISTRICT.
HIS NAME IS MOSTLY THIS ONE POLICE CHIEF.
YOU TALK ABOUT SAVING A FEW DOLLARS ON A TAX RATE.
IT PALES AGAINST THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE PAY FOR FIRE.
THEY SEND THE ENGINES OUT JUST TO PUT THE MILEAGE ON THEM.
THEY SEND THE ENGINES TO THE FOOD STORE SO THEY CAN SAY WE HAD THAT MANY MILES.
AND THE OTHER CLUE IS FIRE ENGINES SHOULD BE LIME YELLOW, NOT RED.
WELL, BUT TRADITIONALLY WE'VE HAD RED FIRE ENGINES.
BUT ON A DARK NIGHT YOU CAN'T SEE THE RED, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FLASHING LIGHTS.
EVERYBODY'S WEARING THE LIME GREEN VEST BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE PEOPLE, YOU'VE GIVEN OUT THIS, THIS IS THE COLOR THE FIRETRUCK SHOULD BE.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO CHANGE THAT.
THE WORLD HAS CHANGED SO MUCH THAT THE CONCEPT OF FIRE PROTECTION HAS TO CHANGE AS WELL.
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BEDFORD, WHEREBY STEPDAUGHTER LIVES, THEY JUST BUILT A VERY LARGE CENTRAL FIRE STATION.IT TAKES A LOT OF THINKING TO CHANGE THE SYSTEM THAT'S BEEN IN USE FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS.
CLOSE THE FIRE STATION ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
THERE'S NO NEED TO HAVE FIVE FIRE CHIEFS.
I SAT IN A MEETING WITH, THEY APPOINTED THE, UH, RELATIVE OF THE COMMISSIONER TO A DEPUTY CHIEF ON MY CARD, IT SAYS, TRUST NOTHING.
IF YOU GO LOOK AT THE RECORD OF THE FIRE UP ON DALE AVENUE, YOU'LL SEE THE APPOINTMENT OF A RELATIVE TO A VERY LUCRATIVE
WE CAN'T GET FIRE VOLUNTEER FIREMEN ANYMORE.
HOW CAN WE GET VOLUNTEERS FOR E M S? THAT HAS TO BE COMBINED AS WELL.
THIS WHOLE EVENING TURNED OUT TO BE ABOUT HOW DO WE CHANGE THE WAY WE LIVE BECAUSE OF RESOURCES.
BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, I COME AROUND IN A WHEELCHAIR.
NOW, WHOEVER WOULD'VE THOUGHT A YEAR AGO, I'D BE SITTING HERE TALKING TO YOU FROM A WHEELCHAIR, I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T HAVE IT'S TIME TO LET THOSE KIDS WITH THE PHONES TAKE CHARGE.
I'VE GOT SOME GRANDCHILDREN THAT ARE REALLY SHARP.
THEY DO THINGS VERY MUCH DIFFERENTLY THAN I DO TONIGHT.
TURNED OUT VERY DIFFERENT THAN I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
IT'S ABOUT HOW DO WE LET OUR SOCIETY CATCH UP WITH THE REALITIES OF THE CHANGING WORLD.
ANYBODY ELSE? JUST BY CLOSING, BY SAYING THAT THE VILLAGE VALE INSURED HAS VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS THAT ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICES TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, UH, UNINCORPORATED AREA FOR THIS, UH, FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT.
YOU WANNA CLOSE THE HEARING? YEAH, I'D JUST LIKE TO SAY I, I THINK THEY, THEY DO A REALLY GOOD JOB.
WE HAVE A LOT OF VOLUNTEERS, UM, IN, UH, IN GREENBURG.
UM, AND THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS, UM, HAVE SAVED A LOT OF MONEY FOR, UH, RESIDENTS OF, UM, UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG WHO ARE SERVICED BY THE VOLUNTEER FIRE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE VERY DEDICATED, HARDWORKING, UM, UH, CITIZENS WHO GIVE UP THEIR TIME AND SHOW BRAVERY AND, UH, AND REALLY, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEY'RE REALLY UNDER APPRECIATED BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THEY'RE VOLUNTEERS.
SO I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THEM FOR THEIR HARD WORK.
AND I'D LIKE TO CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
YOU HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
THE FINAL PUBLIC HEARING FOR TODAY IS TO CONSIDER AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO RESIDENTS OF NORTH ELMSFORD FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR THE YEAR 2023.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN UP THE HEARING.
I HEARD, UM, FRANCIS, JUST SECOND THIS, THE OPENING OF THIS HEARING.
WHO SECONDED THE CLOSING OF THE PRIOR? I DID.
[ To consider an agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and the Village of Elmsford to provide Fire Protection Services to residents of the North Elmsford Fire Protection District, for the year 2023, for an amount not to exceed $837,414.13]
SO SIMILAR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING WE JUST HAD, BUT, UH, IT'S DISTINCT IN THAT IT'S A DIFFERENT AREA OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.THIS AREA HAS BEEN, UH, TITLED NORTH ELMSFORD FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT.
IT IS AN AREA THAT IN, IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, IT IS NOT SERVED BY THE FAIRVIEW, UH, GREENVILLE OR HARTSDALE FIRE, FIRE DISTRICTS.
AND SO WE CONTRACT WITH THE NEARBY VILLAGE TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES, UH, TO THAT AREA.
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2023, THE CONTRACT, UH, UH, PRICE BASED ON, UH, ASSESSED VALUES AND THE DIFFERENT AREAS IS $837,414.AND, UH, 15 CENTS, THAT IS A 33.5, APPROXIMATELY 33,500 INCREASE.
I HAVE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS IF YOU CARE FOR THOSE.
UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 33,500 INCREASE FROM 2022.
AND IF ANYBODY HAS ANY COMMENTS ABOUT THE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR NORTH ELMSFORD DEALING WITH THE VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTERS FROM ELFORD, WHO PROVIDES THAT SERVICE? WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? UH, NO ONE.
UH, THEN, THEN, UH, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
[ PUBLIC COMMENT Advance signup is required. A continuous five minute limit per speaker will be strictly enforced. The clock will start when a speaker begins speaking and will not be stopped for any reason until the speaker is finished or five minutes has elapsed, whichever occurs first. Interruptions by Town Board members, the Town Clerk or the public will not be permitted. If a speaker insists on an immediate answer, should an answer be provided, it shall be part of the speaker's five minute allocation and not be interrupted. There will not be a second five minute round. Any written comments sent to PublicComment@GreenburghNY.com by 6 PM the day of the hearing will be forwarded to all Town Board members in advance of the meeting for their consideration. Written comments will not be read at the meeting unless the original author is present to do so.]
PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES.UH, WE DO HAVE SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS.
THE FIRST ONE IS KEITH LAWSON.
OH, ACTUALLY KEITH, I'M SORRY.
THE FIRST ONE WHO ACTUALLY SENT ME AN EMAIL SAYING HE'D LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING IS MARY BOIN.
AND, OKAY, KEITH LAWSON, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
WE COME TO YOU ALL THIS EVENING.
WE WANTED TO SAY CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL WHO WITH THESE NEW NOMINATIONS THAT WAS ON THE BALLOT.
IT'S GOOD TO SEE THAT WE FINALLY GOT SOMEBODY FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
WHAT WE WANT TO SAY TO YOU ALL IS THAT IT'S SAD THAT THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS BUILT 14 HIGH RISES.
THE CITY OF NEAREST SHELL BUILT 13 HIGH RISES IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
CAN'T GET A SENIOR CITIZEN BUILDING UP.
WHEN YOU GET OLD, YOU EARN TO DESERVE TO BE ABLE TO GO AND LIVE.
EVERYBODY'S NOT AS BENEFICIARY AS SOME OF US.
WE SIT HERE NOW LOOKING
I DON'T KNOW HOW Y'ALL PICKED THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, BUT IT'S SAD BECAUSE YOU GOT A TOWN SUPERVISOR IN ALL THE YEARS.
HE'D BEEN ON THIS AS THE TOWN SUPERVISOR.
AIN'T DID NOTHING FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
MY UNCLE HARRY LAWSON GREENBURG USED TO BE GREENBURG.
YOU GO DOWN TO THE CENTER, YOU DON'T HAVE A PROGRAM DOWN THERE FOR CHILDREN.
YOU GO AROUND HERE AND YOU LOOK AT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
NOW YOU LOOK AT THE OLD FRONT, YOU LOOK AT MAPLE AVENUE, ALL THEM PEOPLE THAT LIVE OVER THERE, WHO IS MADE THE DECISION, THE DOORBELLS AT SEVEN 30 HAS TO BE CUT OFF.
AND THEN THEY CUT 'EM BACK ON AT SEVEN 30 AT NIGHT.
WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE PAYING RENT,
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WHOSE DECISION IS THAT? THIS TOWN BOARD SITTING RIGHT HERE.NOW WHAT ARE Y'ALL DOING FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG? YOU GO DOWN CHERRYTOWN ROAD, YOU AIN'T GOT NOTHING BUT CAR DEALERSHIPS.
AND THEN YOU LOOK AT A LADY THAT HAS FOUGHT AND DID EVERYTHING SHE COULD FOR THIS TOWN TO RUN FOR COUNTY CLERK.
DON'T EVEN PUT HER ON THAT BALLOT.
DON'T THINK I DON'T DO MY HOMEWORK.
AND Y'ALL SITTING HERE LIKE, IT'S OKAY.
PARKWAY HOME WHERE KEN JONES LIVE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT LIVE IN GREENBURG.
AND I JUST WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION, HOW COME IT HAS TAKEN SO LONG FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN BUILDING ON MANHATTAN AVENUE TO GET BILL? WHY? JUST ANSWER THAT YOU AIN'T, ALL YOU DOING IS BRINGING UP PREFAB BUILDING, PUTTING THEM TOGETHER.
I'LL TAKE MY 10 MINUTES LATER.
DID I DID NOT TURN OUT ANYTHING LIKE I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE.
MY WORLD CHANGED PRETTY MUCH IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU RECOGNIZE IT.
THIS IS A DO NOT RESUSCITATE FORM THAT I CARRY WITH ME AT ALL TIMES.
'CAUSE IF I GET INTO AN ACCIDENT, LET ME DIE QUIETLY.
THE ONLY PROBLEM WITH THIS, EVEN IF I CARRY IT WITH ME, NOBODY WILL ENFORCE IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REAL OR NOT.
AND SO I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING WITH KOBE.
UH, YOU'VE SEEN ME SITTING OUTSIDE TALKING TO KOBE.
WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THIS FORM PART OF THE 9 1 1 SYSTEM WHERE WHEN YOU HAVE IT ON YOUR FILE AND SOMEBODY IN NEW JERSEY CALLS 9 1 1 AND THEY GET GREENBERG AND THEY SAY, YES, THERE IS A OFFICIAL DO NOT RESUSCITATE FILE ON OUR RECORDS, THEY'LL LET ME DIE.
I'LL BE 90 IN JUNE, MARRIED 50 YEARS AT THE SAME TIME.
AND WE'RE HAVING A PARTY AND INVITING OUR FRIENDS.
I DIDN'T EXPECT TO BE HERE IN A WHEELCHAIR, BUT I'VE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT IT.
AND HOW PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS ARE IGNORED.
I CAN STILL STAND UP AND WALK SHORT DISTANCES, BUT NOT VERY FAR.
SOME YEARS AGO I WAS OUT THERE DOING VARIOUS THINGS ON SOCIAL, WHAT I THOUGHT WAS SOCIALLY CORRECT.
AND SOME GUY NAMED, UH, GEORGE WISENER USED TO WORK HERE.
I MET HIM ON THE M I S COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
AND GEORGE TOOK ME ASIDE ONE DAY.
HE SAID, MURRAY, YOU CANNOT GO OUT AND DO THOSE PROJECTS BECAUSE YOU CREATE A LIABILITY FOR YOUR FAMILY AND YOU CAN'T JEOPARDIZE YOUR FAMILY.
AND FROM THAT MEETING, I HAD NEVER EVER BROKEN THE LAW ABOUT PAINTING A LINE ON THE ROAD.
HE'S THREATENED IT MANY TIMES, BUT NEVER DONE IT.
I ASKED A GUY NAMED, UH, KAKA, JOHN KAPI.
HE WAS A POLICE CHIEF HERE YEARS AND YEARS AGO.
AND I ASKED HIM ABOUT SOME ACCIDENT AND WHETHER
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OR NOT THE ACCIDENT HAD MERCURY IN HIS SYSTEM 'CAUSE I'M AFFECTED BY MERCURY POISONING.AND HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID, YOU'RE CRAZY.
HE CALLED HIS MENTOR IN WASHINGTON AND RAISED THE QUESTION WITH HIM ABOUT THE EFFECT OF MERCURY, OF HEAVY METALS AND HOW THEY AFFECT PEOPLE.
AND HE SAID, YEAH, MURRAY'S PROBABLY RIGHT.
AND CHIEF KAKA ALWAYS LISTENED AND ALWAYS WOULD ADVISE ME CORRECTLY.
A COUPLE OF THINGS I'VE DONE AROUND THAT CLOCK THAT YOU SEE UP THERE IS A RESULT OF THE FACT THAT YEARS AGO OUR UH, ESTEEMED SUPERVISOR USED TO LET PEOPLE SPEAK FOREVER AT MEETINGS.
AND I BROUGHT HIM A LITTLE KITCHEN WINDUP TIMER, REMEMBER? YEP.
AND FROM THAT LITTLE KITCHEN WINDUP TIMER, YOU NOW HAVE AN ELECTRONIC CLOCK UP THERE THAT TELLS ME TO SHUT UP AT THE END OF THE MEETING.
THERE'S THOSE FLOWERS OUT IN THE I'LL BE I MADE THOSE TOO.
AND I HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THE, UH, MAINTENANCE MAN TODAY.
I PAINTED HIM THE COLOR THAT I THOUGHT WAS APPROPRIATE FIVE YEARS AGO.
BUT I TOLD HIM, PAINT THEM TODAY.
THE COLORS THAT KIDS WOULD PAINT THEM, THEY'RE TWO OF MY SCULPTURES IN BACK OF THE LIBRARY ARE BEING REPAINTED IN COLORS THAT CHILDREN, LIKE I HAVE A SCULPTURE.
I HAD THREE FLOWERS IN THE FRONT OF THE RAILROAD STATION.
AND WHEN THEY REDID THE THING, THE FLOWERS DISAPPEARED.
SOMEBODY HAS 'EM IN THEIR BACKYARD 'CAUSE THEY LIKE HIM.
WHY DOES FRANCIS SHEEN THINK I HAVE A PROBLEM? I'M AN ELECTRICAL ENGINEER.
I GRADUATED SELA A POLYTECHNIC IN 1955 AS A BACHELOR OF ELECTRICAL ENGINEERING.
THAT MEANS I UNDERSTAND ELECTRICITY AND ELECTROMAGNETISM AND EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENING.
AND I WAS ON A ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD.
ONLY THEY KICKED ME OFF 'CAUSE I WAS THE ONLY TECHNICAL ONE COMPETENT TO EVALUATE WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME MR. BOWDEN.
BUT I'M, WE'RE SCHEDULED FOR FIVE MINUTES, SIR.
I'M, YOU CAN CUT ME OFF IF YOU WANT, BUT YOU LET OTHER PEOPLE SPEAK AS WELL.
WE, WE LET EVERYBODY SPEAK FIVE MINUTES TONIGHT.
WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THE RULES.
EVERYONE HERE HAS BEEN RESPECTFUL OF EVERYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE AND WE'VE ALL STUCK TO FIVE MINUTES.
SO I'D ASK THE NEXT SPEAKER TO PLEASE COME UP.
WHO'S NEXT? WHEN SAM WARE EXPLAINED TO THE TOWN THE G I S SYSTEM, MR.
MR. AND THEN SAM WARE SAID, WELL BRING MURRAY BACK IN BECAUSE MURRAY AND I DEVELOPED A SYSTEM TOGETHER.
THAT'S THE STATE, THE G I S SYSTEM.
YOU REALLY, AND HE DOESN'T LIKE THE FACT THAT HE HAD TO COME AND ASK ME TO COME BACK INTO THE MEETING.
MR. WE, WE DO HAVE RULES AND WE REALLY WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF WE COULD MOVE ON.
I KNOW YOU LIKE THE RULES, BUT THE RULES, I DON'T LIKE TO APPLY THE PEOPLE WHEN YOU LIKE TO APPLY 'EM, BUT NOT NECESSARILY.
THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE MEETING SPEAK.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CLOCK.
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO GOT THE CLOCK.
YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR, UH, FOR US KICKING YOU OUT.
YOU READY TO GO? CALL HER THE BUSINESS NEXT TIME.
HI, SUPERVISOR PAUL FINDER AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK ON, UH, BEHALF OF THE, UH, EMS FOR, UH, PLANNING TO SECEDE FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
I HAVE COME BEFORE THIS TOWN BOARD THIS EVENING REPRESENTING SAVE GREENBERG COALITION, A COMMITTEE FORMED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION TO OUR NEIGHBORS IN THE UNINCORPORATED TOWN
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ABOUT THE DEVASTATING EFFECT THAT EDGEMONT INCORPORATION WOULD HAVE ON OUR COMMUNITY AND THE INJUSTICE OF THE PROCESS.SINCE ITS INCEPTION, OUR GROUP HAS MET WITH SENATOR STEWART, COUSIN ASSEMBLYMAN CHIMPSKY ASKING THAT THEY SPONSORED LEGISLATION WHICH WOULD, UH, PROVIDE EQUAL VOTING RIGHTS UNDER THE LAW FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF GREENBERG.
AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A RESPONSE TO OUR REQUESTS.
YOU WOULD THINK THAT IN THE YEAR 2023 IN A BLUE NEW YORK STATE, IN A DEMOCRATIC PARTY CONTROLLED LEGISLATURE, THIS WOULD NOT BE AN ISSUE.
BUT IT IS, AND A CRITICAL ONE FOR ALL OF US LIVING IN THE INCORPORATED SECTION OF GREENBURG.
THE CURRENT NEW YORK STATE VILLAGE LAW ONLY ALLOW THOSE LIVING IN THE, UH, PROPOSED VILLAGE OF EDGEMONT TO VOTE IN AN INCORPORATION REFERENDUM.
AND EVEN THOUGH THE UNINCORPORATED TOWN WOULD NOT, I'M SORRY.
AND EVEN THOUGH THE UNINCORPORATED TOWN WOULD IMMEDIATELY LOSE EDGE MONTHS, 17 MILLION, UH, DOLLARS SHARE OF REVENUE, AN AMOUNT WHICH COULD EASILY BANKRUPT THE TOWN.
WE, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TOWN RESIDENT HAVE NO SAY IN THIS DECISION, CANNOT VOTE IN THIS REFERENDUM.
AND ALIGHT IS NOT EVEN CONSIDERED.
I COME TO THE BOARD TO TELL YOU THAT OUR MEMBERSHIP DOES NOT BELIEVE YOU ARE DOING ENOUGH.
YOU MEANING THE SUPERVISOR AND THE TOWN BOARD.
WE NEED EACH OF YOU TO USE YOUR RELATIONSHIP, CONNECTION AND INFLUENCE TO MOVE THE QUESTION OF AN AMENDMENT FORWARD.
WE FIND YOUR RELUCTANCY TO CHALLENGE OUR NEW YORK STATE LEGISLATURES WHO HAVE THE POWER TO MAKE SUCH A CHANGE.
WE ELECT EACH OF YOU TO REPRESENT US.
AND NOW WHEN THE TOWN FACES ITS GREATEST CHALLENGE, WE BELIEVE YOU ARE NOT DOING THE BEST.
WE NEED YOUR TIME, YOUR SUPPORT, AND YOUR ACTIVE PUBLIC VOICE IN MAKING CHANGES.
NOW, THERE WILL NEVER BE A MORE SERIOUS THREAT TO THE UNINCORPORATED TOWN OF GREENBURG THAN EDGEMONT INCORPORATING.
AND I THINK I HAVE A FEW MORE.
UH, IF, AND LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO STATE THAT IF THIS INCORPORATION GOES THROUGH, BY THE WAY, I MAKE IT CLEAR, EDGEMONT HAS THE RIGHT TO PETITION FOR THE, UH, SUCCESSION.
BUT WE, THE GREATER MAJORITY HERE IN, UH, THE UNINCORPORATED AREA IN GREENBURG SHOULD ALSO HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY SOMETHING PERTAINING TO THIS.
AND IN A SERIOUS SITUATION LIKE THIS, I HEAR VERY, VERY LITTLE, UH, NOISE COMING FROM THE BOARD ABOUT THIS.
I LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 46 YEARS, AND WHEN I CAME TO THIS COMMUNITY ON THEIR ANTON VETERAN, I'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
MAYFAIR TRIED TO DO THE SAME THING, AND SOMEHOW HE WAS ABLE TO RESOLVE IT.
UH, THIS IS THE THIRD TIME AROUND FOR EDGEMONT.
SO IT MEANS THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF GRIEVANCE OR DISSATISFACTION WITH THE TOWN.
WHY CAN'T THE LEADERSHIP SIT DOWN WITH THIS, UH, EDGEMONT COMMUNITY AND RESOLVE THE ISSUE SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO TAKE THIS EXTREME, UH, UH, ACTION.
AND MAYBE THE BOARD, THE SUPERVISOR CAN TELL US WHY THIS IS HAPPENING.
WELL, WE DID PASS A HOME RULE REQUEST.
FIRST OF ALL, I DISAGREE WITH YOU THAT WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, DOING ENOUGH BECAUSE WE PASSED A HOME RULE REQUEST.
WHEN WAS THAT? A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
UM, AND, UM, AND I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK THE EXACT DATE.
YEAH, WE DID ASK, UM, SENATOR, UM, UH, ANDREW STEWART COUSINS AND ASSEMBLY, UH, WOMAN SHAMSKY AND ASSEMBLYWOMAN, UM, AMY POLAND TO INTRODUCE, UM, A HOME RULE REQUEST THAT, UM, WOULD ENABLE EVERYBODY, UM, YOU KNOW, TO VOTE.
AND RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE IS PREOCCUPIED WITH THEIR BUDGET.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO, USUALLY IN ALBANY, UH, VERY LITTLE GETS DONE UNTIL THE BUDGET PROCESSES CONCLUDED.
SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO CONTINUE TO FIGHT, TO PERSUADE SENATOR COUSINS AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER SHAMSKY AND PAUL TO LET EVERYBODY, UM, LET EVERYBODY VOTE.
I DO AGREE WITH YOU THAT, UM, THIS IS GONNA HAVE A BIG IMPACT,
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UH, FINANCIALLY ON THE TOWN.UM, YOU KNOW, I FEEL WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TO REPRESENT, UH, THE INTERESTS OF UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG.
I SHOULD MENTION THOUGH, UM, I, IF EDGEMONT DOES FILE A PETITION, UM, I HAVE TO RULE ON THE MERITS AND I CAN'T RULE ON THE BASIS OF MY OWN, UM, UM, PERSONAL, YOU KNOW, FAILING.
SO IF THE PETITION IS VALID AND THERE'S NO STATE LEGISLATION THAT PROTECTS EVERYBODY, THEN I WOULD HAVE TO RULE THAT, UH, THE PETITION GOES FORWARD.
ON THE OTHER HAND, IF THE PETITION IS NOT VALID AND THE LAST TWO PETITIONS WERE NOT VALID, THEN I WOULD RULE, YOU KNOW, AGAINST IT, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL BE THOROUGH AND CAREFUL AND, YOU KNOW, WON'T BE BIASED IN MY, UH, IN MY DECISIONS.
BUT I, I DO FEEL THAT IT, THAT IT WOULD BE VERY BAD FOR THE TOWN, SIR.
MR. WEINER, THE BOARD OF GREENBERG, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS EVENING.
I WILL SAY TO YOU THAT LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL JOURNEY THAT MEANS TO BE EMBRACED TO THE FULLEST EVERY DAY.
HOWEVER, YOU MAY NOT ALWAYS WAKE UP READY TO SEIZE THE DAY AND OFTEN NEED TO BE REMINDED THAT LIFE IS A GREAT GIFT.
THIS MOST, THIS IS MOST APPROPRIATE AS IT RELATES TO OUR CURRENT STATE OF ANXIETY AND UNCERTAINTY.
THOSE OF US RESIDING IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG FEELS ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE AS ONE OF OUR LONG-TERM, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITIES.
EDGEMONT PURSUE EXCESSIVE AND ATTEMPT TO SEE SAYS FROM THE UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG GREENBURG.
MY HOME FOR OVER 50 YEARS IS A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY WITH A LONG HISTORY OF NEIGHBORHOODS WORKING TOGETHER IN HARMONY.
SO WHAT THIS INCORPORATION MEANS, ESPECIALLY TO US IN GREENBURG, UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG, I SHOULD SAY, THERE'S A LITTLE SECTION OF THIS BEAUTIFUL TOWN CALLED EDGEMONT WITH A POPULATION OF APPROXIMATELY 8,000 RESIDENTS, WHICH IS ABOUT 17% PROPOSED A NEW VILLAGE PO UH, POISE TO VOTE IN THE REFERENDUM ENABLED BY ARTICLE TWO SECTIONS TWO 16 OF NEW YORK STATE VILLAGE LAW WRITTEN OVER A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
THIS LAW IS NOT IN SYNC WITH THE VISION AND THE ASPIRATIONS OF EQUALITY OF COMMUNITIES IN THE 21ST CENTURY AND SHOULD NOT BE THE SOLE CONSIDERATION INMAN'S PURSUIT TO BECOME A SEPARATE INCORPORATION INCORPORATED VILLAGE EDGEMAN SUCCESS.
SU SUCCESS, OF COURSE, WILL EXCLUDE THE VOTE OF APPROXIMATELY 48,000, WHICH IS ABOUT 83% OF UNINCORPORATED RESIDENTS.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IS THAT A FEW AS A HUNDRED, UH, UH, OF A THOUSAND EDGEMONT
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RESIDENTS VOTE AND 501 VOTE IN FAVOR OF INCORPORATION IT PASSED THAT VOTE PASSES.WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR THOSE OF US IN, IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG, FAIRVIEW PARKWAY GARDENS, PARKWAY HOMES, HARTSDALE, UH, GREENVILLE AND OTHER COMMUNITIES? IT'LL BE FACED WITH FINANCIAL AND QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES.
AS NOTED BY MY COLLEAGUE, THE LOSS OF EDGEMONT 17 MILLION REVENUE WILL FORCE THE TOWN TO MAKE DRASTIC CHANGES.
HOWEVER, THE POWER TO SEEK TO AMEND TWO DASH ONE SIX OF NEW YORK STATE VILLAGE LAW REST IN THE HANDS OF SENATOR ANDREW STATE'S COUSINS AND ASSEMBLY MEMBER MARY JANE HINKY, TO INTRODUCE A VERY SMALL LEGISLATIVE CHANGE THAT WILL ALLOW RESIDENTS OF UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG TO VOTE.
SO WE COULD CONTRIBUTE TO THIS BY ENDORSING OUR PETITION OR IN WRITING OR BY LETTER.
YES, MR. COURT, WE COULD THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY.
ONE SENTENCE, I'M SORRY, BUT THE FIVE MINUTES ARE UP AND, AND I ASKED THE OTHER GENTLEMAN TO STEP DOWN AFTER OH YES, I AGREE.
ER, IT'S TIME FOR A LITTLE DISHARMONY IN GREENBERG.
THOSE WATCHING AT HOME AND THOSE IN THE AUDIENCE HERE TONIGHT MIGHT HAVE NOTICED A DIFFERENCE IN HOW THE TOWN BOARD HANDLED PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THE ONE ON THE CONDOMINIUM CONVERSION, UH, TAXATION.
NOT A MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD HAD A WORD TO SAY YET WHEN WILDWOOD CONDOMINIUM CAME UP, BACK AND FORTH DIALOGUE, MULTIPLE OCCASIONS TO COME TO THE MICROPHONE, CLOSE THE HEARING ON THE TAXATION AND CONDOMINIUMS, FIVE DAYS, WILDWOOD, SEVEN DAYS FIRE ISTIC HEARINGS, WHICH NO ONE EVEN SPOKE ABOUT, THEY GOT SEVEN DAYS.
THAT'S HOW OUR TOWN BOARD DEALS WITH THINGS.
OKAY, MR. FINER, YOU ARE THE TOWN'S CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, SO I'M SURE YOU HAVE THE ANSWERS.
C O TWO ON THE AGENDA, THAT'S THE COMPTROLLER.
7 MILLION, $400,000 TO BE MOVED FOR A NEW COURTHOUSE FUND BALANCE.
YOU PLAYED THAT TRICK IN 2021, WHERE YOU MOVED MONEY INTO A FUND BALANCE FOR A COURTHOUSE, AND THEN WHEN YOU DIDN'T SPEND IT, YOUR OUTSIDE COMPTROLLERS CONGRATULATE YOU FOR YOUR FINANCIAL RESOURCEFULNESS OF MAKING IT INTO INCOME.
NOW, THE KEY WORD THERE IS NEW COURTHOUSE IN THE LANGUAGE OF THE RESOLUTION, BECAUSE IN PW TWO PUBLIC WORKS TWO AND PUBLIC WORKS THREE, WE SEE THAT YOU'RE PUTTING $125,000 INTO THE OLD COURTHOUSE FOR A CHILLER AND AN AIR CONDITIONING SYSTEM.
THERE'S NO QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT A NEW COURTHOUSE, A NEW POLICE STATION, AND WE KEEP POSTPONING IT BECAUSE YOU USE THAT MONEY TO COVER THE OPERATING EXPENSES.
SO YOU CAN TELL TAXPAYERS YOU HAVEN'T TO RAISE TAXES.
A YEAR AGO, THIS TOWN BOARD, ALMOST EXACTLY A YEAR AGO, THIS TOWN BOARD VOTED FOR A CAPITAL BUDGET OF $19,800,000.
NOT ONE PENNY OF THAT CAPITAL BUDGET WAS BONDED BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID THAT THAT AAA BOND RATING IS NO LONGER GONNA BE THERE.
IF YOU EVER GO BACK TO THE BOND MARKETS, WHERE IS THE 2023 CAPITAL BUDGET? YOU HAD WORK SESSIONS INTERVIEWING THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENT HEADS ABOUT THEIR
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NEEDS AND ALL THAT.AND WE'LL CUT OFF $50 HERE AND WE'LL SAVE $75 HERE.
CONGRATULATIONS, YOU SAVED TAXPAYERS A LOT OF MONEY, BUT WHERE'S THE CAPITAL BUDGET DISAPPEARED BECAUSE WE'RE AFRAID TO BOND.
OF COURSE, WE WAITED SO LONG ON THE BONDING THAT INSTRUMENT RACE ROSE.
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, SO THERE'S THE INTEREST THAT YOU'RE EARNING IN THE FUND BALANCES.
I'D LIKE TO HIRE YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT ALL THESE CAPITAL BUDGETS THAT DEBORAH MATERIALIZE.
NONE IN 2022 AND SO FAR? NONE IN 2023.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MR. DANKO, THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
AS OF TONIGHT, ABOUT TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, THE FAMILY OF JOSEPH MALDONADO FILED LAWSUIT AGAINST THE TOWN AND WE RAN A, A BIG BILL, BUT WE'VE NEVER HEARD ANYTHING.
SO THE QUESTION IS, HAS THAT MATTER ENDED? WHAT'S ITS STATUS? HAS A DECISION BEEN REACHED BY THE COURT? HAS A SETTLEMENT BEEN MADE? HAS DECISION BEEN REACHED AND AN APPEAL GOT LAUNCHED? WE HAVEN'T HEARD A WORD IN SIX MONTHS.
I THINK THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO I'VE GOT 45 SECONDS, MR. FINER.
WE HAVE A TOWN ATTORNEY THAT CAN'T SPEAK.
ALL I CAN SAY IS, UH, WITH THE CAPITAL BUDGET THAT WE, UH, TOWN BOARD'S BEEN WORKING COOPERATIVELY AND WE'VE UH, WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING, UH, THE CAPITAL BUDGET AND THAT SHOULD BE, UH, PROPOSED SHORTLY.
MS. DANKO, THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DOES NOT MAKE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT PENDING LITIGATION.
SO IT'S STILL PENDING? THAT'S CORRECT.
ANY OTHER PUBLIC COMMENTS THIS EVENING? IF, UH, WE ONLY HEAR FROM PEOPLE, THE BOARD DOES NOT ALLOW A SECOND FIVE MINUTES.
MR. LAWSON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU SPEAK, DID MR. LAWSON ALREADY SPEAK? HE DID.
SO WE ONLY HEAR FROM PEOPLE ONCE APPOINT THE TOWN ATTORNEY APPOINTMENT OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE APPOINTMENT
[ APPOINTMENT OF TOWN ATTORNEY Appointment of Joseph A. Danko, Esq. as Town Attorney]
OF THE TOWN ATTORNEY, UM, JOE DANKO.UM, UH, I THINK YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB.
DO YOU, DO YOU, UH, DO YOU, UM, WELL SECOND STILL WANT IT? OF COURSE.
SECOND, LET'S PUT HIM OUT OF THE SECOND.
AND ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
I APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION AND THE APPOINTMENT.
COURT PERELL REAPPOINTMENT OF FRED CAMPBELL, IRENE, UM, KEN, JOHN MALONE, LEAL DAVIS, MICHAEL LEN, JOHN FLORES TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST, 2000, UH, 25.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
PAUL, DID YOU DO, DID YOU APPOINT PAULINE? WE DID EARLIER.
WHO SECOND THAT REAPPOINTMENT OF STEVEN S ERIC ZINGER, MARISSA GOLDBERG, TRUDY, HELEN, MICHAEL MARINA, ROBERT MAGIA TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR THE TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
REAPPOINTMENT OF DOREEN LIPSON AND CINDY COLLINS TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR A TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST, 2023.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ TB 1 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing the retention of CGR to analyze the potential impact on the remaining area of the Town as a result of incorporation of a new village (Held over to Town Board Meeting of 4/26/2023)]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING RETENTION OF THAT'S BEING HELD OVER TB ONE, UM, 2 4 26 20 23 RIGHT TILL APRIL 26.[ AT 1 – 4/12/2023 Resolution approving the continued retention of Kenneth E. Pitcoff, Esq., and the law firm of Morris Duffy Alonso Faley & Pitcoff, to represent the Town of Greenburgh In The Matter of Kristine Provenzale v. The Town of Greenburgh, for an amount not to exceed $25,000, $50,000 in total]
T 1 4 12 23 RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF KEN PITCOCK AND THE LAW FIRM OF MORRIS DUFFY, ALONSO LEY AND PITCOCK TO REPRESENT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IN A MATTER OF CHRISTINE PROVOST PROVAN VERSUS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 25,050,000 IN TOTAL.I'D LIKE TO MOVE A SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE AYE.
[ AT 2 – 4/12/2023 Resolution approving the continued retention of Wilson Elser Moskowitz Edelman & Dicker LLP to represent the Town and requested Greenburgh Police personnel In The Matter of Kristin Stein v. The Town of Greenburgh, et al., for an amount not to exceed $50,000, $350,000 in total]
RESOLUTION APPROVING CONTINUED RETENTION OF WILSON, UM, ULCER, MOSCOWITZ, ELLIMAN AND DICKER TO REPRESENT THE TOWN OF[02:30:01]
ENCRUSTED GREENBURG POLICE PERSONNEL IN MATTER OF KRISTEN STEIN $350,000 TOTAL SO FAR AND THE AMOUNTS NOT TO EXCEED 50,000.[ AT 3 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Michael Gaviser for property located at Inverness Road. The Town’s share of the refund is $3,760±; the County’s share is $2,067±; the Bronx Valley Sewer District’s share is $287±; the Edgemont Union Free School District’s share is $13,142±; the Greenville Fire District’s share is $2,317±; the Consolidated Sewer Mtc. District’s share is $138±. Refunds from all sources total $21,711±.]
RE, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TEXT ARI SETTLEMENTS FOR PETITIONER MICHAEL ER FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT INVERNESS ROAD, A REFUNDS FROM WALL, UH, SOURCES TOTAL 20 1007 11.[ AT 7 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Tabacus2 Realty, LLC for property located at 90 E. Main Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $366±; the County’s share is $2,703±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $395±; the Elmsford Union Free School District’s share is $16,378±. Refunds from all sources total $19,842±.]
MOVE THAT SECOND.[ AT 4 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Lock Up Ardsley, LLC for property located at 642 Saw Mill River Road. The Town’s share of the refund is $563±; the County’s share is $4,180±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $563±; the Ardsley Union Free School District’s share is $27,485±. Refunds from all sources total $32,792±.]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX ARY SETTLEMENT, THE PETITIONER LOCK UP LEY FOR PROPERTY LOCATED 6 42 SOOMO RIVER ROAD REFUNDS FROM WALL SOURCES TOTAL 30 2007 92.[ AT 5 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Anthony Coscia for property located at 631 Saw Mill River Road. The Town’s share of the refund is $1,335±; the County’s share is $9,774±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $1,461±; the Ardsley Union Free School District’s share is $65,863±. Refunds from all sources total $78,432±.]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TEXAS SETTLEMENT, THE PETITIONER ANTHONYI'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ AT 6 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Anthony Coscia for property located at 645 Saw Mill River Road. The Town’s share of the refund is $498±; the County’s share is $3,670±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $540±; the Ardsley Union Free School District’s share is $24,490±. Refunds from all sources total $29,198±.]
RESOLUTION, UH, AUTHORIZING TAX ARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER ANTHONY CASTILLA, UM, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 6 45 SOOMO RIVER ROAD, UH, REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES TOTAL 29,000 1 98.I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX TERTIARY, UM, SOLOMON WITH PETITIONER TAB S, UH, TO REALTY, UH, REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES, UH, TOTAL $19,842.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT GINA SECOND.
[ AT 8 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Hayes Street Corp./42 Hayes Street LLC for property located at 41 & 44 Hayes Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $3,982±; the County’s share is $7,622±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $1,078±; the N. Elmsford Fire Protection District’s share is $ 351±; the Elmsford Union Free School District’s share is $46,267±. Refunds from all sources total $59,299±.]
RESOLUTION FOR AUTHORIZING TAX TI RA SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER A STREET CORP TOTAL AMOUNT 50 UH, 9,299.I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
[ BD 1 – 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing an agreement with International Code Council to assist the Building Department in providing plan review of building projects at the new Regeneron Campus, at a cost not to exceed $150,000, the amount appropriated for this purpose in 2023]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AN AGREEMENT WITH INTERNATIONAL CODE COUNCIL TO ASSIST THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PROVIDING PLAN REVIEWS OF THE NEW REGENERON CAMPUS AT A TOTAL COST NOT TO EXCEED $150,000, UH, THE AMOUNT APPROPRIATED FOR THIS PURPOSE IN 2023.[ CL 1 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing permission to close Primrose Avenue, from Bonnie Briar Road to the end of the cul-de-sac, on Sunday, May 21, 2023, from 12:30 PM until 4:30 PM, for the Hilltop Farms Civic Association to hold its Annual Meet and Greet]
WOULD LIKE RESOLUTION AROSE, UH, PERMISSION TO CLOSE PRIMROSE AVENUE FROM BONNIE BRIAR ROAD TO THE END OF THE CUL-DE-SAC ON SUNDAY, MAY 21ST FROM 1230 TO FOUR 30 AT HILLSIDE FARMS UM, ASSOCIATION.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE.
[ CL 2 - 4/12/2023 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for 7:30 pm, Wednesday, April 26, 2023, to consider rate increases for the Consolidated Water District #1]
RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR, UH, UM, 7:30 PM FOR APRIL 26TH TO CONSIDER RATE INCREASES FOR CON CONSOLIDATED WATER DISTRICT, UH, NUMBER ONE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.[ CL 3 - 4/12/2023 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, April 26, 2023, at 7:30 pm, to consider a local law amending Chapter 380 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh entitled "Noise," as it relates to leaf and garden blowers]
RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER THREE 80 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBERG AND TITLE NOISE AS IT RELATES TO LEH AND GARDEN.UM, I I'D LIKE TO MOVE, UH, YOU KNOW THAT ALL, ALL IN FAVOR? SECOND.
JOEY, DO YOU JUST WANNA GIVE LIKE A, A TEN SECOND, LIKE JUST SUMMARY OF THE GIST OF IT, OF VAULT, THE NOISE AND THE CHAPTER, UM, LEAF BLOWERS REGULATION OF YARD AND LEAF BLOWERS? YES.
ESSENTIALLY, UH, WE'LL BE MAKING AN AMENDMENT TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE, UH, TO ENSURE THAT GAS BLOWERS THAT REACH A CERTAIN DECAL LEVEL, UH, ARE ILLEGAL IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND, AND WILL BE ENFORCED.
AND IN TERMS OF THE LEAF BLOWERS, THE NEW CHAPTER THAT WILL ESSENTIALLY LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF, UH, GA ANY LEAF BLOWERS ALLOWED PER CERTAIN SQUARE FOOTAGE, WHICH IS STILL BEING DETERMINED ON, ON A SQUARE FOOTAGE BASIS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, AND THESE ARE JUST HYPOTHETICAL NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE ONE GAS BLOWER GOING AT A TIME AS OPPOSED TO HAVING TWO OR THREE AND JUST INCREASING THE NOISE AND THE DISTURBANCE TO OTHER PEOPLE AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
SO WE WILL HAVE THOSE LAWS THOUGH ON THE WEBSITE PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEAR THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS SET OF LAWS.
AND THERE CAN BE AMENDMENTS TO WHAT I JUST SAID ALSO, BUT THERE'LL BE POSTED BEFOREHAND.
AND THIS WON'T IMPACT, IT'S NOT SAYING GEARS OR ELECTRIC, IT'S JUST NOISE NO MATTER WHAT LEAD BLOWERS THEY USE.
THAT'S THE CURRENT INTENT RIGHT NOW AND IT WILL BE POSTED BEFOREHAND.
[ CL 4 - 4/12/2023 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, April 26, 2023, at 7:30 pm, to consider a local law creating a new Chapter 374 in the Code of the Town of Greenburgh entitled "Leaf Blowers; Regulation of Yard and Leaf Blowers"]
RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WEDNESDAY, APRIL 26TH TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW CREATING A NEW CHAPTER 3 74[02:35:01]
IN THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED LEAF BLOWERS REGULATION OF YARD AND LEAF BLOWERS.WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
[ CL 5 - 4/12/2023 Resolution scheduling a public hearing for Wednesday, April 26, 2023 at 7:30 pm, to consider a local law amending Chapter 100 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh entitled "Building, Fire and Plumbing," as it relates to fire alarm systems and fuel piping systems]
UM, RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR, UM, APRIL 26TH TO CONSIDER, UM, A LOCAL LAWYER AMENDING CHAPTER A HUNDRED OF THE CODE OF TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED BUILDING FIRE AND PLUMBING AS IT RELATES TO FIRE ALARM SYSTEMS AND FUEL HING SYSTEMS. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.[ CL 6 - 4/12/2023 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, May 10, 2023, for the purpose of considering a one-year agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and the Village of Irvington to provide Fire Protection Services to Unincorporated Greenburgh residents of the East Irvington Fire Protection District for the year 2023]
A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WEDNESDAY MAY 10TH FOR PURPOSE OF CONSIDERING A ONE YEAR AGREEMENT BETWEEN TOWN OF GREENBURG AND VILLAGE OF IRVINGTON TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG RESIDENTS OF THE EAST IRVINGTON FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR 2023.[ CO 1 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing Fiscal Year 2023 budget transfers]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING FISCAL YEAR 2023 BUDGET TRANSFERS.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE AYE.
[ CO 2 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing designation of certain Unassigned General Fund Balance as Assigned Fund Balance]
RESOLUTION, UM, AUTHORIZING DESIGNATION OF CERTAIN UNASSIGNED GENERAL FUND BALANCE AND ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ PR 1 - 4/12/2023 Resolution accepting a $2,000 donation from the Metropolis Country Club Foundation, represented by Natalie Robinson, to be used for financial assistance to supplement fees for qualified applicants attending Department of Parks and Recreation Summer Day Camps]
RESOLUTION ACCEPTING A $2,000 DONATION FROM METROPOLIS COUNTRY CLUB FOUNDATION REPRESENTED BY NATALIE LEE ROBINSON TO BE USED FOR FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE TO SUPPLEMENT FEES FOR QUALIFIED APPLICANTS ATTENDING DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION SUMMARY DAY CAMP.SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
[ PR 2 - 4/12/2023 Resolution awarding a contract with CHA Consulting Inc. for professional architectural/engineering services for the Town's outdoor pools, at a cost not to exceed the amount budgeted by the Greenburgh Town Board for such services]
RESOLUTION NOTE, UM, AWARDING CON WITH C H A CONSULTING FOR PROFESSIONAL ARCHITECTURAL ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR THE TOWNS OUTSIDE POOLS AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED, UH, THE AMOUNT, UH, BUDGETED BY THE GREENBERG TOWN BOARD FOR SUCH SERVICES.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE AYE.
[ PR 3 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing award to lowest responsible bidders for 2023 Grounds Maintenance Supplies, at a total cost for all items bid not to exceed $27,104.50]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING AWARD TO LOIS, RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS FOR 2023 GRAND MAINTENANCE SUPPLIES AT A TOTAL COST FOR ALL ITEMS NOT TO EXCEED 27 1 0 4 50.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE.
[ PR 4 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing award to lowest responsible bidders for Landscape Supplies for 2023, at a total cost for all bid items not to exceed $9,000]
RESOLUTION AWARDING, UM, AUTHORIZING AWARD TO LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS FOR LANDSCAPE SUPPLIES FOR 2023 AT A TOTAL COST FOR ALL BID ITEMS NOT TO EXCEED 9,000.[ PR 5 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing award to lowest responsible bidders for Pool Chemicals and Supplies for 2023 at a total cost for all items bid not to exceed $69,600.74]
TO AWARD, UH, TO THE LOWEST POSSIBLE BIDDERS FOR POOL CHEMICALS.LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BID SUPPLIES, RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS, UH, FOR POOL CHEMICALS AND SUPPLIES FOR 2023 AT A TOTAL COST FOR ALL ITEMS NOT TO BID, NOT TO EXCEED $69,600 AND 74 CENTS.
[ PR 6 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing awards to lowest responsible bidders, Ramos tree Service and New England Property Maintenance, Inc., to provide for the pruning and/or removal of trees deemed unsafe in various town parks by the Department of Parks and Recreation's Arborist, at a cost not to exceed $55,000]
RESOLUTION AWARDING, UM, BIDS, UM, TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER RAMOS TREE SERVICE AND NEW ENGLAND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND C TO PROVIDE FOR THE PRUNING AND OR REMOVAL OF TREES DEEMED UNSAFE IN VARIOUS TOWN PARKS BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION ARBORISTS THAT REQUEST NOT TO EXCEED 55,000.DID YOU SAY RAMOS TREE SERVICE AND NEW ENGLAND PROPERTY MAINTENANCE? YES, I THINK I SAID IT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE, THAT UH, ONE COMPANY WAS LOWER IN SOME AREAS AND ANOTHER COMPANY WAS LOWER IN THE OTHER AREA, SO THEY SPLIT IT.
BUT IT IS WORDED, IT IS WORDED A LITTLE STRANGE.
[ PO 1 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into an agreement with the County of Westchester related to prisoner transport]
RESOLUTION WITH ROSE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER RELATED TO PRISON TRANSPORT.I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ PO 2 - 4/12/2023 Resolution promoting Police Officer Peter Schmidt, Jr. to Detective]
PROMOTING A RESOLUTION PROMOTING POLICE OFFICER PETER SCHMIDT, JUNIOR TO DETECTIVE.WHY DIDN'T WE HAVE A, UH, CEREMONY REGARDING THAT? DON'T THEY SOMETIMES, UH, DO IT AFTER? YEAH.
IS IS THE CHIEF STILL HERE? YES, HE'S CHIEF.
WHY DIDN'T WE HAVE A CEREMONY FOR THE PROMOTION? UH, THE OFFICER IS AWAY AT TRAINING AND EVEN THOUGH THE CON SHOULD I TAKE THE MIC? SURE.
THE OFFICER IS AWAY AT TRAINING.
UH, THERE WAS A LITTLE MISCOMMUNICATION ON THE DEPARTMENTAL END, BUT WHAT IT IS IS PER THE CONTRACT, UM, HE IS ENTITLED TO THE RANK AND PAY AT THE START OF HIS TRAINING WITH THE CANINE.
HOWEVER, BECAUSE THE ANIMAL HAS NOT COMPLETED ITS TRAINING, NEITHER HAS HE.
WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO JUST DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO CONTRACTUALLY AND THEN PRESENT HIM, UM, IN THE CANINE AT A LATER TIME.
AND PRESUMABLY THE CANINE IS BEING, UH, TRAINED WITH THE NEW PROTOCOLS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE MARIJUANA.
THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S A THERE'S A LOT OF CHANGES, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALL CURRENT AND, AND APPROPRIATE AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY IN THE TRAINING TOGETHER.
SO THE ANSWER IS YOU WANTED HIM TO BE HERE FOR HIS PROMOTION CEREMONY YES.
AND THE K NINE WAS SCHEDULED LATER.
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SORRY.AND THE CANINE WILL BE JOINING HIM, UH, WELL AT THE COMPLETION OF HIS TRAINING.
IT MIGHT BE A NICE IDEA, BUT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU'D BE ABLE TO PIN THE BADGE ON HIM
WITHOUT GETTING BIT, I THINK HE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I MIGHT LET YOU DO IT.
[ PW 1 - 4/12/2023 Resolution awarding the contract for the Administration Building Roof Replacement at Anthony F. Veteran Park to Costas Construction, the lowest bidder, in an amount not to exceed $139,500]
RESOLUTION AWARDING THE CONTRACT FOR THE ADMINISTRATIVE BUILDING ROOF REPLACEMENT AT ANTHONY VETERAN PARK TO COST US, UH, CONSTRUCTION THE LOWEST BIDDER FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $139,500.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ PW 2 - 4/12/2023 Resolution approving the award of the Town of Greenburgh Court House Chiller and Condenser Replacement to Mt. Kisco Mechanical Service Corp., at a cost not to exceed $98,480]
RESOLUTION APPROVING THE WARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG COURTHOUSE CHILLER AND CONDENSER REPLACEMENT, UM, TO MOUNT KISCO MECHANICAL SERVICE CLUB AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED $98,480.[ PW 3 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing purchase of a ten ton air conditioning unit at a cost not to exceed $27,623]
FAVOR, AYE.RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PURCHASE OF 10 TON AIR CONDITIONING UNIT AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED 27,000 6 23.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ PW 4 - 4/12/2023 Resolution approving the award of the Town of Greenburgh Theodore D. Young Community Center (TDYCC) Heating and Cooling System Upgrades to Mt. Kisco Mechanical Service Corp. at a total cost not to exceed $129,516]
THE WARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER HEATING AND COOLING SYSTEM UPGRADES TO MOUNT KISCO MECHANICAL SERVICE COURT, BUT A TOTAL COST NOT TO EXCEED 1 29 5 16.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE.
[ PW 5 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing a professional services agreement with OLA Consulting Engineers, P.C. (OLA) to provide engineering services for an electrical assessment at the Greenburgh Public Library, for an amount not to exceed $3,000]
AUTHORIZING PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH O L A CONSULTING ENGINEERS TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR AN ELECTRICAL ASSESSMENT AT GREENBURG, UM, PUBLIC LIBRARY FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 3000.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ PW 6 - 4/12/2023 Resolution awarding the contract for the Milling and Resurfacing of Various Streets in the Town of Greenburgh-2023 to Montesano Brothers, Inc., the lowest bidder, in an amount not to exceed $ 835,986]
CONTRACT FOR THE MILLING AND RESURFACING OF VARIOUS STREETS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG 2023, TWO MONTHS OF AU BROTHERS, THE LOWEST BIDDER IN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 8 35 9 9 6.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND, SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ PW 7 - 4/12/2023 Resolution awarding the Town of Greenburgh Department of Public Works Mini-Bid under New York State Vehicle Marketplace for a RAM 2500 Crew Cab vehicle to Neilson of Morristown Inc., at a total cost not to exceed $63,465.79]
AYE.UH, A RESOLUTION AWARDING THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS MANY BID UNDER NEW YORK STATE VEHICLE MARKETPLACE FOR RAM 2,500 CREW CAB VEHICLE TO NIELSEN, A MORRISTOWN CORP, UH, NOT TO EXCEED 63,000 465 79.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR,
[ PW 8 - 4/12/2023 Resolution authorizing a professional services agreement with OLA Consulting Engineers, P.C. (OLA) to provide Engineering services for Mechanical, Electrical and Plumbing (M.E.P.) assessment and planning assistance at Town of Greenburgh facilities, for an amount not to exceed $34,500]
AYE.WOULD LIKE TO MOVE RESOLUTION OF RESIDENT PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITHOUT, WHILE I CONSULTING ENGINEERS TO PROVIDE ENGINEERING SERVICES FOR MECHANICAL, ELECTRICAL, AND PLUMBING ASSESSMENT AND PLANNING ASSISTANCE AT TOWN OF GREENBURG FACILITIES FOR AN AMOUNT NOT EXCEED 34,500.
COULD YOU PASS THAT DOWN TO KEN BEFORE YOU CLOSE ALL IN PAPER? AYE.
SO I MOVE RACHEL, ARE YOU AVAILABLE NEXT TUESDAY? UM, I'M, I THINK FOR THE FIRST, FROM FIVE TO SIX, FROM SEVEN 30 AFTER.
SO I JUST HAVE TO TAKE A, A GAP BETWEEN SIX AND SEVEN 30 BECAUSE, UH, OUR NEW TOWN ATTORNEY HAS TOLD US THERE'S A TIME SENSITIVITY ON, UM, ON THE, UH, CONDO LEGISLATION, BUT WE, WE WOULD NEED THREE PEOPLE THERE ASSUMING THAT WE DON'T GET ANYTHING DRAMATIC IN AS WRITTEN COMMENT.
UM, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A, UM, I HAVE A MEETING FROM SIX TO SEVEN 30, BUT IT'S A ZOOM MEETING I COULD TAKE HERE IN TOWN HALLS, SO I WOULD JUST HAVE TO MISS AN HOUR AND A HALF OF THE MEETING, WHICH WILL INEVITABLY, WELL, WHAT'S THE TIME WAY YOU COULD DO IT FROM FIVE TO SIX OR FROM SEVEN 30 TO, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE, JOE? UH, NO, I DON'T HAVE A PREFERENCE.
GINA, DO YOU HAVE A PREFERENCE? I, I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THE QUESTION.
UH, JOE TELLS US THAT THERE'S A TIME SENSITIVITY TO THE CONDO LEGISLATION AND WE HAVE THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL MONDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK.
AND OF COURSE IF SOMETHING SUBSTANTIVE COMES IN, THEN WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE, UH, WE WOULDN'T HAVE THE VOTE ON TUESDAY.
BUT IF THERE ISN'T, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE A VOTE COULD ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, IT COULD BE HELD ON TUESDAY.
SO WHAT, WHAT TIME ARE Y'ALL LOOKING AT MONDAY? I GUESS I SHOULD BE STEPPING DOWN, DOWN SINCE, NO, WE'RE NOT TALKING, WE'RE NOT TALKING TO YOU
SO IS THAT'S GONNA BE IN PERSON? UH, THAT WOULD BE IN PERSON.
RIGHT? SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, UM, HOLD A SPECIAL MEETING ON TUESDAY AT, UM, AT, WHAT'S
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THAT 5:00 PM TUESDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK, UM, TUESDAY OF HOLD.TUESDAY OR MONDAY? NO, TUESDAY.
BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IF WE, IF WE NEED IT AND IF WE DON'T, AT LEAST WE'LL HAVE IT.
AND IF WE DON'T NEED IT, UH, BECAUSE SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES HAVE COME IN OR NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, THEN WE WON'T HAVE IT.
UH, SO I'M MAKING THAT MOTION.
AND WE ARE, AND THE NEXT THING I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS MAKE A MOTION FOR AN EXECUTIVE SESSION THIS EVENING, UH, TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE, UH, REGARDING, UH, SEVERAL LEGAL ISSUES BEFORE US CONTINUING OUR DISCUSSION FROM YESTERDAY.