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TARA TOWN BOARD, UH, MEETING TODAY'S, UH,
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A LITTLE AFTER 5 22.AND, UM, IT'S OUR, UM, TOWN BOARD MEETING.
AND WE'RE GONNA BEGIN WITH, UM, A SPECIAL MEETING.
UM, UH, WE HAVE JOE DANKO, THE TOWN ATTORNEY, UM, YOU KNOW, ON, UM, YOU KNOW, ON ZOOM.
YOU STILL HAVE, BUT IF YOU GOTTA OPEN ON A MEETING AND DO A ROLL CALL, UH, JUST DON'T DO ANYTHING.
THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING, HUH? YEAH.
YOU WANT ME TO JUST, I NEED YOU TO STAY PUT.
YOU CALL HER, BUT I JUST, I DON'T WANT YOU 'CAUSE WE NEED TO GET STARTED.
IT SHOULD LOOK BETTER ON YOURS NOW, RIGHT? YES, IT DOES.
YOU READY? SO YOU WANNA DO THE ROLL? JOE'S GONNA DO THE ROLL CALL.
SO JUST DO THE OPENING AGENDA AGAIN.
I'M CALLING THE, WE'RE OPENING UP THE MEETING OF, UH, THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE TOWN.
YOU'RE STARTING THE WORK SESSION FIRST.
NO, THAT'S NOT HOW, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
WE HAVE A WORK SESSION AGENDA THAT THEN CALLS FOR US TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
SO FIRST WE HAVE, UH, THE WORK SESSION.
WE, WE OPENED UP THE WORK SESSION.
NOW I'M, UH, UH, OPENING, RECOMMENDING THAT WE, UM, HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
AND, UH, JOE, COULD YOU, UM, UM, I CALL THE ROLE YES.
COUNCIL MEMBER ELLEN HENDRICKS.
PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER KEN JONES.
PRESENT COUNCIL MEMBER FRANCIS SHEEN.
COUNCIL MEMBER GINA JACKSON PRESENT.
AND AS SUPERVISOR MENTIONED EARLIER, TOWN ATTORNEY JOE DANKO ATTENDING VIA ZOOM.
UM, UH, KEN HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, UH, THE NOISE ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, DO WE HAVE TO HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE, THE TIME? YEAH.
WE, 'CAUSE THREE OF US, I BELIEVE AGREED THAT NINE O'CLOCK WAS, UM, BEFORE NINE WAS TOO EARLY.
BEFORE, BEFORE EIGHT WAS HOW IT READ.
SO WE WANTED TO CHANGE IT TO NINE AND WE DIDN'T, WE WEREN'T SURE IF THAT WAS GONNA BE A MATERIAL CHANGE.
IF WE, OR THAT THAT WOULD BE A MATERIAL CHANGE.
WE WOULD HAVE TO RE-NOTICE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
WELL, IF WE'RE HAVING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE NOISE, THE, THE, THE END OF LEAF BLOWERS DURING THE MONTH OF JUNE, WE COULD DO AT THE SAME TIME.
AND YOU HAVE TO REOPEN THAT PREVIOUS HEARING, WHICH YOU CLOSED AND LEFT THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
SO WHY DON'T WE, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU WANNA DO THAT.
I THINK THAT'S, THEN WE COULD DO EVERYTHING AT THE SAME TIME.
I'M JUST, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THEY HAVE TO DO IT AFTER EIGHT O'CLOCK? DURING WEEKDAYS? NO, BUT NOT BEFORE.
NOT NOT AT EIGHT O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING.
WE, THE WEEKEND WEEKEND IT READS 8:00 PM TO 8:00 AM RIGHT NOW.
AND WE'RE SUGGESTING 8:00 PM TO, TO NINE, 9:00 AM BUT I DON'T REMEMBER.
'CAUSE THE MORNING COMES FIRST.
THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU CAN'T DO IT.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SATURDAY.
OH, WE TALKING ABOUT WEEK WEEKDAYS ALSO.
SO THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT LAW CURRENTLY READS THAT IT'S, IT'S PROHIBITED BETWEEN 8:00 PM AND 8:00 AM ANY WEEKDAY.
BUT FOR SATURDAY OR A HOLIDAY, IT IS PROHIBITED BETWEEN HOURS OF, OF 9:00 AM AND 6:00 PM MM-HMM.
AND THEN SUNDAY AND THEN SUNDAYS, SUNDAY IT'S PROHIBITED BEFORE 11:00 AM AFTER 6:00 PM SO YOU'RE SAYING BASICALLY MOVE IT TO 9:00 AM FOR THE WEEKDAYS.
BUT IF YOU DO THAT, THEN, THEN WHAT DOES THAT DO TO THE PEOPLE DOING CONSTRUCTION WORK OR ANYTHING NOT INVOLVING LAWN EQUIPMENT.
THAT'S AT EIGHT O'CLOCK STILL.
I CAN SEE DOING IT ON SATURDAYS.
SO THAT MEANS IT'LL AFFECT THE, ACROSS THE BOARD, ALL THE NOISE AUDIENCE ACROSS, ACROSS THE BOARD.
SO IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT JUST FOR LEAF FLOWS.
IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA AFFECT ACROSS THE BOARD.
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MAKE SENSE SATURDAYS, BUT IT ALREADY READS THAT WAY ON SATURDAY.RIGHT JOE? IT'S ALREADY CORRECT AND CORRECT.
WHAT, WHAT IF, UH, WE, UM, YOU KNOW, STARTED SAT HAVE SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS THE SAME TIME? WELL, THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION.
THERE'S NO REASON TO CHANGE THAT.
IT WAS REALLY THE, DURING, DURING THE WEEK, CHANGING FROM 8:00 AM TO 9:00 AM BUT THEN SINCE IT AFFECTS CONSTRUCTION MM-HMM.
NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THEY USUALLY STARTED MAKING YOU CHANGE.
IF WE SAY ON SATURDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDAYS FOR PEOPLE, IT'S STILL THE WEEKEND.
YOU KNOW, IT'S A WEEKEND FOR EVERYBODY.
SO IF WE WANT TO SAY, LISTEN, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO SLEEP LATER ON A SATURDAY AND A SUNDAY.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING, I, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING WRONG WITH, YOU KNOW, BEING CONSISTENT ON BOTH WEEKEND, YOU KNOW, DAYS.
WELL, I THINK SUNDAY'S TIMING WAS BECAUSE PEOPLE GO GO CHURCH TO CHURCH, PEOPLE GO TO GO SYNAGOGUE, SYNAGOGUES.
AND NOT TO TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM THAT.
BUT YOU ALSO GOTTA THINK WHEN PEOPLE DO ANY TYPE OF MAINTENANCE OR ANY TYPE OF, IT'S USUALLY EARLY IN THE MORNING.
SO IF WE, WE KEEP SATURDAY THE WAY SATURDAYS AND THEN GIVE THAT ONUS TO OVER ON SUNDAYS, I THINK THAT WOULD MM-HMM.
BUT WE HAVE NOT POSTED NOTICE FOR THIS ANY AMENDMENT TO THIS LAW.
WHY DON'T WE, YEAH, WE CAN, WHY DON'T DO WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY.
WE CAN JUST YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
IT MAKES SENSE NOW BECAUSE OF THE YEAH, BECAUSE OF THE, WELL CONSTRUCTION, CONSTRUCTION GENERALLY BEGINS, WORKS WHEN THEY WORK FROM SEVEN TO THREE.
SO KEEPING THEM QUIET FOR AN HOUR INSTEAD OF TWO.
WE CAN ALWAYS CHANGE THE ONE NEXT SHIFT.
AND ALSO THEY WANNA START, YOU KNOW, EVEN FOR LANDSCAPERS, THEY WANT TO START EARLY, EARLY SO THAT THEY'RE NOT IN THE HEAT OF THE SUN AT NOON, WHICH IS WHAT THIS BASICALLY DOES.
BUT, SO RESOLUTION, SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WEDNESDAY, MAY 10TH AT GREENBURG TOWN HALLS, CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW CREATING A NEW CHAPTER IN THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED, UH, LEAF BLOWERS.
NOW THIS PROPOSAL, UH, JOE, DO YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN IT? IS THIS FOR THE MONTH OF JULY? THIS IS ALL LEAF BLOWERS GEARS AND ELECTRIC, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
THEY WOULD BE BANNED IN THEIR ENTIRETY, BUT THIS WOULD HAVE A SUNSET PROVISION, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN THE HEARING WE HAD LAST WEEK ON THE AMENDMENTS TO THE NOISE ORDINANCE.
WHICH WOULD, IF PASSED BY THE BOARD WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT.
HOWEVER, THE NEW PROPOSED LAW, WHICH WILL BE POSTED ON OUR WEBSITE IN ADVANCE OF NEXT WEEK'S PUBLIC HEARING, WILL HAVE A SUNSET PROVISION THAT IT WILL REMAIN IN EFFECT FOR THE YEAR.
SO THAT MEANS IT WOULD BAN GAS BLOWERS OR LEAF BLOWERS, EXCUSE ME, FOR JULY.
AND A, UH, I'M NOT SURE IF IT'S HALF OF AUGUST OR ALL OF AUGUST.
I NEED TO, I WOULD PREFER DOING HALF OF AUGUST BECAUSE I KNOW FROM, UH, MY BICYCLE EXPERIENCES THAT LEAVES COME DOWN STARTING, YOU KNOW, MID, MID-AUGUST.
AND I FEEL THAT, UM, IF WE HAVE A SIX WEEK PROGRAM, UH, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WE COULD TEST IT OUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK LEAVES COME DOWN THE FIRST WEEK IN AUGUST OR, OR THE SECOND, BUT BY THE AFTER THE SECOND, IT DEFINITELY COMES DOWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS A ONE YEAR TEST AND IF IT WORKS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS EXPAND IT THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO WHY DON'T, DON'T WE, WHY DON'T WE MAKE IT FROM THE MIDDLE OF JUNE TO THE MIDDLE OF AUGUST? SO IT'S STILL TWO MONTHS WHAT, WHATEVER THE BOARD FILED.
'CAUSE I THINK TWO MONTHS IS A DECENT TIMEFRAME FOR PEOPLE TO REALLY APPRECIATE NO NOISE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? WHERE SIX WEEKS ON THE, ON THE OTHER HAND, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IS A VERY DRASTIC, YOU KNOW, INITIATIVE.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE AWAY DURING THE MONTH OF, UM, YOU KNOW, JULY.
IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE, UM, AS IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IF YOU TALK ABOUT A SIX WEEK EXPER EXPERIMENT, IT'S NOT, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOESN'T WORK, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY WE TESTED IT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT DOES WORK, THEN THE FOLLOWING YEAR WE COULD ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, EXPAND ON IT.
I, I THINK YOU'D BE BETTER OFF DOING SOMETHING.
UM, THAT DEFINITELY IS GONNA BE CONTROVERSIAL.
YOU KNOW, DOING IT FOR LIKE SIX WEEKS AND TESTING IT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, SEEING THE IMPACT, THE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE IMPACTS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT A LEAF BLOWER LAW FOR LIKE OVER 30 YEARS ALREADY AND NOTHING'S
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EVER GOTTEN DONE.BUT I JUST THINK A LEAF BLOWER OR THE NOISE ORDINANCE, I THINK WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEAF BLOWER.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LEAF BLOWER NOW.
THE THING IS, IF THE, IF THE, IF THE SIX WEEKS INCLUDE THE SECOND TWO WEEKS IN JULY, AND THE FIRST TWO WEEKS IN AUGUST, A TON OF PEOPLE ARE ON VACATION DURING THAT TIME AND GONE.
SO WHEN THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE AREAS THAT REMAIN AT HOME ARE NOT GONNA GET THE FULL BENEFIT TO THE LEAFBLOWER BANNED.
'CAUSE PEOPLE WHO, WELL, I GUESS THEY'RE, THEY, THEY, THEY'LL STILL BE DOING THEIR LAWNS, THEIR, THEIR LANDSCAPERS WOULD STILL BE DOING THEIR LAWNS, BUT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ARE GONE.
I'D LIKE TO DO IT WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE HERE.
RIGHT? SO THE, THE FIRST, THE LAST TWO WEEKS IN JUNE AND THE FIRST TWO WEEKS IN JULY, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE STILL HERE.
SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO TELL WHAT IT MEANS TO HAVE A BETTER NEED.
TO HAVE, TO HAVE THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO DO THE TWO MONTHS, AT LEAST HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE TWO MONTHS.
UH, BECAUSE WE COULD ALWAYS DO LESS RESTRICTIVE MM-HMM.
BUT IF WE THEN WERE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON SIX WEEKS AND THEN MADE IT EIGHT WEEKS, WELL THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIVE.
WOULD YOU AGREE, JOE? I, I AGREE.
ALSO, IF THE, IF THE HEARING DOES NOT CLOSE ON MAY 10TH AND IT'S PUSHED OVER AN ADDITIONAL TWO WEEKS, WE START TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE IF IT'S NOT SET TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE BY THE MIDDLE OF JUNE, WE HAVE A LAW IN THE BOOK, OR WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO HAVE A LAW IN THE BOOKS THAT PROHIBITS LEAF BLOWERS IN MID-JUNE, BUT IT'S NOT ACTUALLY FILED YET.
UM, BUT OF COURSE MY OFFICE WILL DO OUR BEST TO ENSURE THAT IT'S FILED IMMEDIATELY AFTER PASSAGE IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR.
SO I WILL CIRCULATE THE LAW WITH, WITH THE TWO MONTH, UH, BAN AT THIS POINT.
AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, AND SEE WHAT THE PUBLIC HAS TO SAY.
WHAT, WHY NOT? WHEN WILL YOU HAVE IT? UH, PROBABLY TOMORROW.
SHALL WE MOVE ON? ALL IN FAVOR.
UM, C ALL TWO RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WEDNESDAY MAY 10TH AT GREENBURG TOWN HALL TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSED TOWN OF GREENBURG 2023 RECOMMENDED CAPITAL BUDGET AS MAY BE REVISED BY THE TOWN BOARD PRIOR TO, UH, POSTING IT FOR THE PUBLIC, UM, UH, UNIT HEARING.
UM, IS THAT THE ONE THAT YOU PUT OUT ON THE INTERNET TODAY? YEAH, THAT WE JUST GOT.
WELL, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT FOR THREE MONTHS.
SO, SO WERE THERE ANY CHANGES? I'VE SENT THE BOARD COPIES OF, WERE THERE ANY CHANGE? WERE THERE, WAS THERE ANY CHANGE? THIS WAS THE LIT.
EVERYTHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DISCUSSED, WE'VE HAD MEETINGS WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.
WE, UM, WE, IS THERE ANY CHANGES? ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO WHAT WE DISCUSSED? NO.
I MEAN, I THINK JERRY MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE LEFT OUT, UH, A POOL LINER, YOU KNOW THAT NO, NO, NO.
I, I PUT IT IN AND YOU HAD TAKEN OUT, YOU HAD A CONVERSATION AFTER THE FIRST AND I THOUGHT, RIGHT.
SO THAT WAS LIKE, WE COULD ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THAT.
BUT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT REDUCE AMOUNT ORIGINALLY.
BUT WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, PUTTING FOOTNOTES OR ASTERISK, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE ARE THINKING THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY PAYING FOR RAISING THE TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR RAISING THE HOUSES ON BABBITT COURT, THE WAY THE THING READS, AS OPPOSED TO, UH, THE MONEY HAS TO BE PUT UP FRONT.
UM, BUT ANYWAY, WE'LL HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS ONE AS WELL.
AND WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT, UM, THE TEMPORARY PROVISION FOR THE TOWN COURT TO GIVE THEM AIR CONDITIONING.
I DON'T SEE ANY MONIES IN THERE FOR, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVE ANY PUBLIC HEARING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, WELL, WE ALREADY PROVED THAT, BUT WE PUT THAT THROUGH ALREADY.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS NO, NO.
I I JUST, THERE WAS SOME CHANGE TO THAT.
SO THERE POTENTIAL CHANGE TO THAT.
SO I WAS JU DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER THE PRICE WOULD BE EFFECTIVE.
THE, THE MAIN THING IS I WANTED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
UM, WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING BECAUSE A LOT OF DEPARTMENTS NEED, NEED TO START, UH, IMPLEMENTING THE CAPITAL BUDGETS.
SO THIS WAY WE HAVE THE HEARING, UH, WE COULD ALWAYS MAKE CHANGES AND THEN WE COULD VOTE ON IT, HOPEFULLY, UM, AT THE END OF MAY OR THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL.
AND IF THE, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO MAKE CHANGES, THE BOARD CAN MAKE CHANGES.
BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, AS, AS COUNCILMAN SHEHAN MENTIONED, THAT WE HAVE THOSE FOOTNOTES SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR.
AND WE DON'T LOOK AS THOUGH THAT WE'RE KIND OF
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DON'T MIND.AND ALSO THE BOARD HAS NEVER ADOPTED ANYTHING IN ITS ENTIRETY.
AND YOU KNOW, THE THING IS THE BOARD WANTS TO MAKE CHANGES.
YOU KNOW, THE BOARD CAN MAKE CHANGES ON THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY.
THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY JUST GIVING YOU A, A CHANCE TO GET US RIGHT.
BUT YOU'RE ASKED, WE'RE ASKED TO VOTE ON PUTTING THIS ON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING, AND BEFORE WE DISCUSS IT IN FINAL FORM, YOU SENT IT OUT TO THE INTERNET SO EVERYBODY ELSE CAN COMMENT ABOUT IT.
SO WE'RE GETTING COMMENTS ABOUT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY APPROVED TO GO ON FOR PUBLIC JURY.
UNDER, UNDER THE LAW, BASICALLY THE PROPOSED OPERATING BUDGET AND THE PROPOSED CAPITAL BUDGET IS SUBMITTED BY THE TOWN SUPERVISOR.
THEN THE TOWN BOARD, AFTER IT'S SUBMITTED, THE TOWN BOARD HAS THE, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBILITY OF APPROVING OR MAKING MODIFICATIONS, UH, TO THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
SO THIS YEAR, UH, WHICH IS SORT OF UNUSUAL, UM, WE ALL MET WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR AT LEAST A FEW MONTHS TO DISCUSS THE CAPITAL BUDGET, YOU KNOW, REQUEST.
EVERYBODY PARTICIPATED IN THAT.
SO BASICALLY WHAT I DID IS I TOOK, WHAT I REMEMBERED WAS SORT OF CONSENSUS WHAT MOST OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WANTED.
I, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO ROBERTA.
I SAID, PUT THIS IN THE RECOMMENDED CAPITAL BUDGET AFTER I SUBMIT IT.
NOW WE HAVE JUST LIKE THE OPERATING BUDGET, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN THE BOARD IS FREE TO MAKE ANY MODIFICATIONS YOU WANT.
YOU COULD PUT AS AFTER, AS YOU COULD PUT FOOTNOTES, YOU COULD DO WHATEVER YOU WANT TO THE FINAL BUDGET.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THE MAIN, THE MAIN, YEAH, THE MAIN THING REALLY IS JUST TO GET THIS STARTED.
BECAUSE IF WE DON'T PUT IT ON THE, UH, BUDGET NOW, UM, THE, THE DEPART, AND IF WE DON'T, IF THEY, IF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DON'T HAVE THE FUNDS IN PLACE, UM, THEY'RE GONNA BE, UH, IN TROUBLE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT.
YOU KNOW, THEY, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S OBJECTING NOT ALL TO THAT.
I THINK THAT WE WERE JUST SAYING THAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT TO HAVE A, IT WOULD'VE BEEN AS, AS THIS BEFORE VE BEEN BEFORE IT WENT UP TO THE, ACTUALLY I SENT THE BOARD, UH, DRAFTS OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF MONTHS.
THE QUESTION IS, IS THIS THE FINAL FORM THAT WE AGREED TO? THAT WE AGREED TO? THIS IS THE, ANY DRAFT I SENT YOU BEFORE, UH, BASICALLY THIS IS WHAT'S IN THIS IS THERE, I DIDN'T MAKE, THERE'S NO SURPRISES, BUT DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF BEFORE YOU PUT SOMETHING OUT ON THE INTERNET AS THIS IS THE BUDGET THE BOARD IS GOING TO PUT FORWARD TONIGHT.
IT MAKES OUR, IT ALMOST SEEMS LIKE OUR VOTE IS IRRELEVANT.
BUT, BUT LEMME JUST RECOMMENDED THAT'S NOT THE POINT.
THE POINT IS THAT WE, YOU CANNOT HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING WITHOUT THE CONCURRENCE OF THIS BOARD.
RIGHT? SO YOU SAY IT'S UP TO YOU TO COME UP WITH A CAPITAL BUDGET.
BUT IT'S UP TO US TO DECIDE IS IT, IS IT WORTHY? IS IT READY TO GO FOR A PUBLIC HEARING? AND WHAT I SEE OUT ON THE GB LIST, THE CAPITAL BUDGET, AND WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE VOTING ON WHETHER OR NOT IT'S WORTHY TO GO ON TO A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT, IT MAKES US ALMOST IRRELEVANT IN THIS PROCESS.
WELL, THIS IS THE WAY IT'S ALWAYS BEEN DONE SINCE I'VE BEEN TOWN SUPERVISOR.
OH REALLY? THEY HAD YOU PUT IT OUT ON THE INTERNET WHEN YOU WERE A TOWN SUPERVISOR? NOT TRUE.
I DON'T, THE INTERNET WAS IN EXISTENCE.
EVERY YEAR, EVERY YEAR SINCE I'VE BEEN TOWN SUPERVISOR.
BUT PAUL, DO YOU UNDERSTAND? DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW WE FEEL? LIKE, I MEAN, AT SOME POINT WE GOTTA WORK TOGETHER.
AT SOME POINT WE NEED TO COME TOGETHER.
WE NEED TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS BEFORE WE SIT AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH PUBLIC, WITH THE PUBLIC.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA COME TO US AND ASK QUESTIONS TO US.
AND AT THAT POINT, IT ENOUGH IS ENOUGH OF THAT.
I, I THINK THAT, FIRST OF ALL, LEMME SAY SOMETHING.
FIRST OF ALL, LET ME SAY THAT THIS YEAR, UH, EVERY BUDGET REQUEST IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET WAS DISCUSSED BY THE TOWN BOARD WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS.
EVERYTHING THAT WE ALL AGREED TO, UH, IN, IN CONCEPT IS IN HERE.
SO WE'VE BEEN DOING, WE'VE MET WITH THEM SINCE I THINK JANUARY.
SO EVERY, SO THE THING IS, THERE'S NO THERE, THERE'S, THERE WAS NO CHANGES.
THERE'S THINGS THAT, UM, MAYBE IF, IF IT WAS UP TO ME ORIGINALLY, I WOULD'VE HAD A SMALLER CAPITAL BUDGET BECAUSE, UM, I DON'T WANT TO REALLY SPEND AS MUCH, YOU KNOW, MONEY.
BUT THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, DURING THE DISCUSSION SAID, PUT THIS IN, PUT THAT IN.
SO I BASICALLY THOUGHT THAT I WAS REACHING SORT OF A CONSENSUS.
SO ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT RIGHT NOW, FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES, UM, RIGHT, THIS SAYS RECOMMENDED.
SO THE BOARD MAY, SO I'D SAY 90, MY GUT FAILING IS THAT 99%
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OF THIS BUDGET IS GONNA BE APPROVED.BUT, BUT YOU MAY WANT TO MAKE CHANGES AND THAT YOU COULD MAKE CHANGES.
I DON'T, PAUL, THAT, THAT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE POINT WE'RE MAKING.
THE POINT WE'RE MAKING IS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S, I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO CONTINUE TO TRY TO EXPLAIN TO HIM, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT SHOULD.
YOU KNOW WHAT? LET'S NOT HAVE A FIGHT.
YOU, IF YOU WANT FIGHT THIS TIME WE FIGHTING, IT'S A DISCUSS, IT'S CALLED DISCUSSION.
YOU, WE CAN HOLD IT OVER AND WE CAN PUT IT ON.
NO, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE HEARING NOW.
AND WE CAN WAIT AND THEN IT WILL BE APPROVED, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETIME IN THE SUMMER, THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHATEVER YOU WANT.
YOU COULD APPROVE IT TODAY FOR PUBLIC HEARING ONLY AND THEN RESERVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE CHANGES.
OR YOU COULD HOLD IT OVER IF YOU WANT.
AND THEN WE CAN, NO ONE MENTIONED ANYTHING ABOUT HOLDING IT OVER.
WE ONLY ASK THAT YOU RESPECT US A LITTLE BIT MORE.
I, I, I, I, I, I KNOW I RESPECT IT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S BESIDES ALL, WHY DON'T WE MOVE ON? BECAUSE LET'S ON DO WANNA PASS? YES.
DO YOU WANT TO PASS IT? YES OR NO? WE HAVE PEOPLE, WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE.
WE'RE ALREADY GETTING EMAILS ABOUT IT.
SO WE MIGHT AS WELL ADDRESS THEM BECAUSE WE WANTED THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT.
SO YOU TOLD, SO BASICALLY, AND IT WOULD BE NICE FOR US TO HAVE SEEN WHAT WAS FINAL BEFORE EVERYONE ELSE DIDN'T COMMENTED, WHICH WAS THE POINT THAT YOU'VE SEEN DRAFT.
YOU WANT TO, YOU WANNA CLOSE THE SEAT NOW? PAUL IS, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CLOSE THE PAUL, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CLOSE THE, CLOSE THE MEETING.