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[ DRAFT TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD AGENDA WEDNESDAY, May 3, 2023 – 7:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ]
OKAY.EXCEPT, UH, PLEASE SHUT OFF YOUR, I'M ABOUT TO THANK YOU.
I DON'T LIKE TO HEAR MYSELF SPEAK.
UH, GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN.
WELCOME TO THE MAY 3RD PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
UH, MR. SCHMIDT, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE FOR US? SURE.
UH, WE'LL START WITH THE MINUTES.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? I HAD NO CHANGES.
I, I THINK I HAVE A, HUGH, I HAVE A, UH, GO AHEAD.
UH, ON PAGE THREE, UH, I WAS THE CASE NUMBER PBB 2123.
UH, I THOUGHT, UH, THE, SOME DISCUSSION IS MISSING REGARDING THE FENCE.
UH, WHERE ARE YOU ON PAGE THREE, AGAIN, TOWARDS THE TOP AND ALSO THE WORKING WITH HL H AND L P B IN RELATION TO HISTORICAL LANDMARKS.
PUT ON, ON THE RECORD, THE PART ABOUT THE HISTORIC ARTIFACTS THAT WAS AGREED TO BY THEM.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE FENCE.
ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER CHANGES? NO.
UM, WELL, IT SAYS ABSENT, RATHER THAN LEAVING A BLANKET, IT JUST SAID NONE.
SO, YEAH, ALL OF US WERE MENTALLY, WAS IT MENTALLY OR PHYSICALLY ABSENT? THAT'S YOUR QUESTION.
RATHER THAN JUST LEAVE A BLANK, JUST SAY NONE.
BUT ON, UM, ON THE P P 2123, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THE, THE $50,000 SET ASIDE FOR THE SIDEWALK.
AND THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD WORD IT, BUT IT DOESN'T INDICATE
'CAUSE IT WAS AN, IT WAS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
THAT WAS AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T GO INTO THE MINUTES.
UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, MINUTES AS AMENDED, THEN PLEASE.
IS WE'RE MISSING? AM I VOTING TONIGHT? NO.
MONA'S NOT VOTING TONIGHT, RIGHT? NO, SHE'S NOT.
BUT WE, WE APPRECIATE HEARING FROM YOU THOUGH, ANYWAY.
UM, I DID WANNA MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT, UH, BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO CORRESPONDENCE.
UM, LAST NIGHT, THE, UM, ACCESSIBLE VIABLE LIVING COMMITTEE, UH, BETTER KNOWN BY SOME PEOPLE AS OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMMITTEE, BUT WE HAVE EXPANDED THAT, UH, MET WITH THE TOWN BOARD AND WORK SESSION FOR AN EXTENSIVE PERIOD OF TIME.
IT WAS ABOUT 45 MINUTES LAST NIGHT, UH, TO DISCUSS THE DRAFTING OF A NEW LAW FOR, UH, ADUS.
WHAT ARE THE, THE FIRST ONE IS, WHAT IS IT? ALTERNATE ACCESSORY.
ACCESSORY ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
UH, AS PEOPLE MAY KNOW THAT, THAT IS A TOOL THAT'S BEEN USED IN CALIFORNIA FOR SEVERAL YEARS AND HAS BEEN EXPANDING TO NEW YORK AND OUR SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED IT.
AND OUR GOVERNOR ACTUALLY TRIED TO, UH, IMPOSE THE STATE'S WILL ON HOW WE DO IT HERE IN THE PLACES THAT HAVE NOT ADOPTED IT.
UH, LUCKILY THAT, BUT PART OF THE BUDGET IS NO LONGER PART OF THE BUDGET.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, IT IS A TOOL THAT CAN HELP, UH, GIVE US SOME MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
AND SO OUR COMMITTEE HAD DRAFTED GUIDELINES, UH, WHICH WE ALSO HAD, UH, BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW AGAINST THE NEW YORK PLANNING FEDERATION PRESENTATION, AND WE HIT ALL THOSE CHECK MARKS.
IT WAS RECEIVED VERY, VERY WELL LAST NIGHT BY THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, OUR NEXT STEP IS TO PUT GARRETT AND, AND, UH, JOE DANKO, OUR TOWN ATTORNEY, UH, TO WORK AND DRAFT A PROPOSAL, WHICH WILL THEN COME BEFORE THE A V L FOR, FOR REVIEW, AND ULTIMATELY TO THE TOWN BOARD BEFORE THE END OF JUNE.
SO IT'S A PRETTY EXCITING FIRST STEP FOR THE A B L.
WE'VE GOT A LOT THAT'S, WE'RE JUST SCRATCHING THE SURFACE OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO IN THE A B L, BUT IT'S OUR FIRST PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND WE'RE PRETTY EXCITED ABOUT
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IT.AND AGAIN, I'D LIKE TO PUBLICLY THANK THE TOWN BOARD FOR ALL.
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO SPEND 15 MINUTES WITH US, AND THEY SPENT 45.
SO I, I REALLY THANK THEM FOR THEIR TIME LAST NIGHT AND, AND SOME OF THEIR COMMENTS WERE A LOT REALLY HELPFUL TO US IN SHAPING THE LAW.
I THINK WE'RE GONNA DO CAEL OR NOT? YES, WE ARE GONNA DO CAEL.
SO WE HAVE THREE EXTENSIONS TO DEAL WITH TONIGHT.
YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH THEM? UH, AARON, PLEASE? SURE.
FIRST IS, UH, PB 20 DASH 20, WHICH IS THE NEWMAN SUBDIVISION 13 SOUTHWOOD PLACE.
WE RECEIVED A LETTER DATED APRIL 25TH, 2023, REQUESTING A FURTHER 90 DAY EXTENSION OF THE PLANNING BOARD'S PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
THE LETTER INDICATES THAT THE APPLICANT AND PROJECT TEAM HAVE RECEIVED COMMUNICATIONS FROM THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND EXPECT TO RECEIVE THE SIGNED PLATINUM, THE UPCOMING WEEKS.
WELL, WE SEE THIS ALL THE TIME.
I'M JUST WONDERING IN THE FUTURE, IF WE SHOULD EXTEND THE TI TIME ON THE INITIAL, ON THE INITIAL APPROVAL, BECAUSE THIS IS A TYPICAL THING HAS BEEN NOW SINCE AB SINCE COVID, RIGHT.
UM, THAT OUR, ALMOST ALL OF OUR, OUR SUBDIVISIONS ARE BEING DELAYED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
SO WE OUGHT TO RECONSIDER, YOU KNOW, AS WE DO THIS, SEE IF WE CAN MIX.
CAN WE DO IT UNDER THE LAW, AMANDA? PROBABLY NOT.
I OH, SO WE MAY NEED TO AMEND.
WE'RE COME BACK TO EXTENSIONS EITHER WAY.
CAN I, UH, HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THIS EXTENSION THEN? SO MOVED.
CAN I HAVE A SECOND PLEASE? SECOND, UH, TOM SICKENS.
I WAS WAITING FOR MON, BUT I FORGOT SHE WASN'T ABLE TO.
SHE CAN, SHE CAN CHIME IN ANYTIME SHE WANT.
NEXT ONE IS CASE NUMBER PB 19 DASH 26.
THAT'S THE KAUFMAN SUBDIVISION, 36 HILLCREST AVENUE, LEY NEW YORK.
WE RECEIVED A LETTER DATED APRIL 25TH, 2023, UM, REQUESTING A FURTHER EXTENSION INDICATING THAT THE APPLICANT, UM, HAS OBTAINED A WILLINGNESS TO SERVE LETTER FROM THE PRIVATE WATER SERVICE, VIOLA WATER.
UH, AND THEY, THEY'VE SENT A COPY OF THAT LETTER FROM VIOLA TO THE TOWN.
THEY'VE INDICATED THAT THE PLATT'S BEEN SIGNED.
THEY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WAS NEXT IN TERMS OF PROCESS.
I GOT BACK TO THE OWNER SLASH APPLICANT ON IT.
UM, SO THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT AND EXPECT TO BE ABLE TO GET THINGS SIGNED OFF BY THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
SO THEY KNOW THAT, THAT WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
DOES THAT MEAN WILLINGNESS TO SERVE THAT VIOLA WILL SERVE THEIR SITE WITH WATER? THE IS, WHY IS EVEN THAT AN ISSUE? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE SIGNED OFF ON AND APPROVED BY THE PRIVATE WATER COMPANY THAT SERVICES CERTAIN AREAS IN THE TOWN.
SO THEY'RE NOT WITHIN THE TOWN'S WATER DISTRICT.
CAN I HAVE A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION, MA'AM? SO MOVED.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST, SAL, WHICH IS A LITTLE, LITTLE BIT TRICKIER.
SO LAST IS CASE NUMBER PB 20 DASH ZERO FOUR CASAL.
SO WE HAVE CASAL BEFORE US FOR CURRENT PROJECT THAT SOME OF US WERE OUT AT THE SITE.
UM, HOWEVER, THE APPLICANTS IN THEIR FORMER APPLICATION, PB 20 DASH ZERO FOUR, OBTAINED PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, SITE PLAN APPROVAL, AND STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPROVAL FROM THIS BOARD.
UM, AND BEING THAT THEY'RE STILL MOVING THROUGH THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS WITH THEIR CURRENT APPLICATION, THEY'RE SEEKING AN EXTENSION OF THOSE FORMER APPROVALS ON THE FORMER CASE JUST TO KEEP THAT CURRENT IN THE EVENTS.
FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY DON'T OBTAIN THE VARIANCES OR SOMETHING GETS CHANGED OR THEY'RE DELAYED.
THEY JUST WANT TO RETAIN AND KEEP THESE APPROVALS ACTIVE.
AND THEY'VE, THEY'VE SOUGHT THIS SAME EXTENSION PREVIOUSLY.
THEY'RE JUST SEEKING AN ADDITIONAL 90 DAYS.
AND, AND THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN FRONT OF THE ZONING BOARD THE END OF THIS 18TH? I BELIEVE SO.
THEY WERE BEFORE THE Z B A ONCE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD.
UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION THEN TO APPROVE THIS EXTENSION? SO, MOVE WALTER, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
FIRST CASE IS PB 2310, WHICH IS LUCIA BROTHERS FUNERAL HOME.
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IT'S FOR AMENDED SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL PERMIT.THIS IS JUST A PRE-SUBMISSION CONFERENCE SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND.
JUST SO WE CAN GET A FEEL FOR, UH, QUESTIONS THAT WE MAY HAVE AND COMMENTS WE MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROJECT BEFORE THEY DO AN OFFICIAL APPLICATION.
AND IF THE PUBLIC'S HERE TO LISTEN AND UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHAT THEY'RE THINKING OF FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
UH, THIS IS ON THE SITE OF WHAT USED TO BE BEN'S DELI AND SPGA AND SEVERAL OTHER RESTAURANTS OVER THE YEARS.
UM, AND THEY WANT TO CONVERT THE BUILDING WITH A FOOTPRINT AS IT IS, UH, FOR USE AS A FUNERAL.
THAT'S WHAT, WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THAT'S BY SPECIAL IN OUR ZONE AND CA ZONE, CENTRAL AVENUE ZONE.
SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO, IF, UH, THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND, UH, DESCRIBE THE PROJECT, WE'D VERY MUCH APPRECIATE IT.
I'M GONNA SHARE THE SCREEN, THE DRAWINGS, SO YOU CAN STAND RIGHT UP AT THE PODIUM.
THE MIC IS, WE'RE ON TELEVISION AND THE MICROPHONE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ON.
YOU'LL JUST, UM, JUST YOUR NAME AND AFFILIATION FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN I'M GONNA SHARE THE SCREEN SO THAT WE CAN SEE THE DRAWING.
SO, UH, MY NAME IS JAHARA KU COLOMBO.
I'M A REGISTER ARCHITECT WHO IS, UM, HELPING OUT THE POTENTIAL, UM, BUYER OF THE PROPERTY.
AND, UH, NOW THEY'RE GONNA INTRODUCE THEMSELVES, THANK YOU MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
AND, UM, I'M MIA, MY HUSBAND RICHIE, AND OUR LAST NAME IS CY.
AND WE ARE THE OWNERS OF LUCIA BROTHERS FUNERAL HOME.
UM, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE ASKED TO US TO EXPLAIN, AND WE ARE WILLING TO GIVE YOU THAT EXPLANATION.
UH, I KNOW THAT IT'S WITH A SPECIAL PERMIT THAT WE GONNA BE ABLE, IF THIS IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT YOU ALLOW US TO DO, AND WE ARE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER WE HAVE TO DO IN ORDER FOR US TO SATISFY THE COMMUNITY.
COULD YOU JUST FOR EVERYBODY, JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THE PROJECT, UH, EITHER HAVE YOUR ARCHITECT DO IT OR YES.
JUST GO OVER THE PROJECT, TELL US WHAT YOU'RE DOING TO THE BUILDING.
TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PARKING SITUATION AND OKAY.
AND ALL THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
SO I'LL DO A BRIEF EXPLANATION YES, PLEASE.
FROM, UH, ARCHITECTURAL POINT OF VIEW YES.
AND THEN SHE'S GONNA RESPOND TO SOME QUESTIONS THAT WERE SENT TO US, WHICH IS REGARDING TO THE OPERATION OF THE BUSINESS ITSELF.
UM, WE WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN SOME DOCUMENTATIONS.
UM, GARRETT AND MATT SENT IT TO US.
UM, SOME VERY USEFUL DRAWINGS.
IT SEEMS THAT A FEW YEARS IN THE PAST, UH, ANOTHER APPLICATION TO OPERATE A FUNERAL HOME WAS FILED FOR THE SAME LOCATION.
UM, SO THAT WAS, UH, VERY USEFUL.
UM, THERE WE WERE ABLE TO GET SOME, UM, NICE INFORMATION REGARDING THE SITE PLAN.
UM, WE ALSO HAD A, A, A, A SOON PRESENTATION WITH, UH, MR. UM, GARRETT.
AND, UM, ALSO WITH, UM, LEASE, UH, FROM ZONING.
AND, UM, ONE CONCERN WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WERE WE DOING TO THE BUILDING, THE FACADE, UM, ET CETERA.
AND, UM, I PERSONALLY WALKED THE BUILDING A FEW, UM, WEEKS AGO.
AND, UH, THE STRUCTURE IS IN VERY GOOD CONDITION.
IT'S A STRUCTURALLY SOUND AND, AND, AND WELL MAINTAINED.
UM, THEY ARE NOT LOOKING TO DO ANY MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXTERIOR, UH, TO THE FACADE OR TO THE ENVELOPE.
UM, THEY ARE DOING, THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO MOSTLY INTERIOR NON-STRUCTURAL RENOVATIONS, REMOVING OF COURSE CANS AND KITCHEN, UH, COMMERCIAL KITCHEN EQUIPMENT, UM, AND UH, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE FOR A CHAPEL FOR VIEWING.
AND, UM, THE BASEMENT, WHICH IS CURRENTLY USED AS A STORAGE, WOULD BE USED FOR PREPARATION AND LAB.
UM, THE FIRST FLOOR WHERE CURRENTLY, UH, IT'S, IT WAS LIKE THE DELI AREA WITH TABLES AND COUNTERS IS GONNA BE USED, UH, FOR, UH, BUICK AND A AND A CHAPEL.
AND, UM, THE BUILDING IS ROUGHLY 6,800 SQUARE FEET, UH, BASED ON SQUARE FOOTAGE FROM, UM, FROM, UM, DELI RETAIL, UH, TO FUNERAL HOME.
UH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT SLIGHTLY, UM, HIGHER, UM, REQUIREMENT OF PARKING THERE.
BASED ON THE SITE PLAN THAT WE OBTAINED, THERE ARE 73 SPACES.
UH, IF WE'RE GOING TO CONVERT INTO A FUNERAL HOME, THEN WE WOULD NEED 75 SPACES, UH, WHICH WE THINK WE'RE ABLE TO ACHIEVE,
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UH, WITHIN THE EXISTING HARDSCAPE.UM, AARON WAS MENTIONING ALSO THAT, UM, THE SITE PLAN LOOKS LIKE MY, MAY DEFER A LITTLE BIT FROM WHAT WE PRESENTED, BUT WE'RE JUST USING THESE OLDER DRAWINGS AS A BASE BECAUSE FIRST WE NEED TO HAVE A FEELING OF HOW THE MM-HMM.
THEN MIA NEEDS TO OPEN HER POCKET AND BY BUILDING
UH, BUT FIRST SHE WANTS TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE, IS THIS GONNA HAPPEN? IS THIS GONNA TAKE, UNDERSTAND THIS GONNA TAKE A WEEK? IS THIS GONNA TAKE 10 YEARS? UM, SO SHE KNOWS THAT SHE CAN MOVE FORWARD.
UM, IT'S, AS YOU SAY, IT IS PERMITTED, A PERMITTED UNDER SPECIAL PERMIT.
YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING IT'S HAS BEEN EMPTY FOR A FEW YEARS.
UM, SO WE, THE STRUCTURE IS IN GOOD CONDITION.
AGAIN, I WALK THE BUILDING ONCE WE HAVE THIS PRESUBMISSION THAT WE WOULD KNOW IF I NEED TO COME WITH MY CONSULTANTS, YOU KNOW, M E P AND STRUCTURAL, UM, TO FURTHER ASCERTAIN THE CONDITIONS.
BUT, UH, WE DO BELIEVE IT WOULDN'T BE, UH, IN ANY MEANS DETRIMENTAL TO THE, TO THE COMMUNITY.
I, ONE QUESTION, I I, IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THAT BUILDING.
THE FIRST FLOOR, I DON'T REMEMBER BEING ALL ONE LEVER.
UH, THE, THE, UM, THE SPACE AROUND THE PERIMETER IS LIKE THREE STEPS DOWN.
UM, UH, WE WALK THE BUILDING AND WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO, THEY ARE, THEY ARE LOOKING TO KEEP IT THE SAME.
SO, UM, IT WOULD WORK WITH, UH, THE, THE WAY THEY OPERATE.
THEY DON'T, THEY WOULDN'T NEED TO LEVEL UP, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IF YOU LEVEL IT UP, THEN A MAJOR MODIFICATION TO THE ROOF WOULD NEED TO BE DONE BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE THE LOWER PART OF THE ROOF ARE AROUND THE PERIMETERS.
AND THAT WAS REALLY SOMETHING THAT MY HUSBAND WENT THROUGH.
MY HUSBAND WENT THROUGH THE ARCHITECT, 'CAUSE HE'S BEEN IN THE BUSINESS ALMOST 50 YEARS, EVEN THOUGH HE'S SO YOUNG,
BUT, UH, HE'S THE ONE THAT WENT THROUGH AND HE'S THE ONE THAT REALLY KNOWS HOW HE WANTS TO, UH, BE ABLE TO WORK AT LEAST WITH TWO CHAPELS TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY.
BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE PROJECT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, UH, REAL ESTATE TAXES.
SO WE WOULD NEVER SURVIVE IF WE DO ONLY ONE CHAPEL.
SO MY HUSBAND HAS THE IDEA OF HOW HE WILL BE DESIGNING THE, THE INTERIOR IN ORDER FOR US TO GET AT LEAST TWO FUNERALS AT THE SAME TIME.
SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT SHE'S MENTIONED AND ALL THAT.
DO YOU DO HAVE A, A FUNERAL HOME NOW? TWO.
WHERE ARE THEY IN LITTLE ED IN THE BRONX.
THERE'VE BEEN THERE MONT A HUNDRED YEARS AND IT'S BEEN ONLY TWO GENERATION.
ONE OF THEM IS MY HUSBAND AND NOW THE FAMILY, WHICH IS US.
SO, UH, WE ARE HERE WITH THE BEST INTENTION OF THIS IS A VERY GOOD, UM, WAY OF ASKING THE QUESTION.
AND NO WAY WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, BELIEVING THAT IS AGAINST WHATEVER WE WANTED TO DO.
I THINK THAT THIS IS VERY FAIR.
AND, UH, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE ALSO THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM FOR US.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE FAMILIES AND THEY'RE GRIEVING AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO HAVE PROBLEMS FOR THEM, YOU WANT TO RESOLVE PROBLEMS FOR THEM SO THAT THEY CAN BE COMFORTABLE.
A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS TO ME, I THINK, I THINK YOU'RE HOLDING UP THE THING THAT WE GOT FROM THE EDGE, EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL, WHO IS VERY, VERY THOUGHTFUL WHEN IT COMES TO THIS KIND OF THING.
HE'S THE PRESIDENT ON THESE QUESTIONS.
VERY THOUGHTFUL QUESTIONS AND CONSTRUCTIVE QUESTIONS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU LIVE UP HERE.
I LIVING IN CENTRAL AVENUE, BUT I'M NOT IN CENTRAL AVENUE IS A BEAR.
UM, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR PEDESTRIAN ACROSS THE STREET.
I'VE DONE IT TOO MANY TIMES IN MY LIFE ALREADY.
TAKING A LEFT TURN OUT OF PLACES WHERE THERE ISN'T A LIGHT IS EXTREMELY SCARY, IF NOT POSSIBLE, IN, IN CASES.
AND I DON'T, THERE'S NO ISLAND, I DON'T THINK, IS THERE AN ISLAND? IS THERE? I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS, BUT IS THERE A CENTER LANE THERE? YES.
IS IT CENTER LANE? EITHER WAY? THERE'S A TURNING LANE, BUT THERE'S NO ISLAND.
THE ISLAND'S FURTHER UP, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT.
THE ISLAND'S UP BY THE GULF STATION BY OLD ARMY.
IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF PAST THE, THE FIRE STATION THAT'S RIGHT THERE.
WHERE THE POST OFFICE IS, WHERE THE, UH, THERE IS A LIGHT THERE.
IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH YOUR DRIVEWAY.
IT DOESN'T LINE UP WITH YOUR DRIVEWAY THOUGH.
RIGHT? AND I'M NOT SURE, I DON'T THINK THAT, I THINK THAT THE FLASHING LIGHT THAT CHANGES FOR THE, IT'S THE FIRE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
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THE, THE CLOSEST LIGHT'S, THE ONE AT THE CORNER OF LEY ROAD.THERE'S ANOTHER ONE AT MOUNT JOY.
ACTUALLY NO, THERE'S ONE, UH, RIGHT ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY.
THE SHOPPING CENTER, IF THAT'S THE ONE FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, IF THAT'S THE ONE FOR THE, THAT'S THE SIGN.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LIGHT THERE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S THE FIRE, THAT'S THE FIRE ALARM MOUNT JOY.
THERE IS NOT, NOT THERE ANYWAY.
SO THE TRAFFIC, IT'S ALWAYS GREEN.
UNLESS THE FIRE, THE BOTTOM LINE, THE TRAFFIC IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE CLEARLY GONNA BE FOCUSING ON.
WE WILL BE BRINGING IN OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AS PART OF THIS.
UH, I'M HOPING THAT YOU GUYS MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT TOO, IN TERMS OF QUEUING AND THINGS.
'CAUSE I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE TO LINE UP PRE SESSIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH CAN BE DIFFICULT.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE REALLY TO ME WHERE THE FOCUS IS GOING TO HAVE TO, HAVE TO BE, I THINK.
WELL, MY HUSBAND, UH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS HERE.
MAYBE HE CAN TELL ME, BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ALREADY HAD CALLED ME.
UM, MR. GARRICK GAVE ME SOME IDEA.
SO I MAKE SOME PHONE CALLS BEFORE I CAME HERE FOR TRAFFIC AND SAW.
UM, SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I HAVE THESE OPTIONS.
I CAN TELL YOU, FOR US, THAT WILL BE A MAJOR PART, A MAJOR PART OF THIS.
THE WAY THE PERSON EXPLAINED IT TO ME WAS THAT WE HAVE A MIDDLE LANE, AND FROM THAT MIDDLE LANE WE CAN TURN A LITTLE BIT EASIER BECAUSE, UM, THE TRAFFIC LIGHT HAS, UM, THE WEIGHT OF CHANGING.
WHENEVER THE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS A HAS TO GET OUT, IT STOPS.
SO MAYBE WE CAN GET THE SAME TREATMENT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOUR POSSESSION'S LEAVING.
THE OTHER SECOND OPTION THAT THE, THAT THE PERSON FROM THE TRAFFIC DAMAGE AFTER MR. GARY TOLD ME IS THAT, UM, UH, HE ALSO, UH, SAID THAT WE CAN HAVE, AND WE DO THAT IN OUR FUNERAL HOME.
UH, THE, THE THIRD OPTION WAS THAT, UM, WE CAN HAVE A SWITCH AND LIKE AN AUTOMATIC, UM, BESIDES THE ATTENDANT, WE ALSO CAN ASK THE POLICE SOMETIMES TO ESCORT.
AND, AND THE THING IS THAT I BROUGHT IT IN THAT SOMETIMES WE DO HAVE PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY THAT ASK FOR THE POLICE.
AND THE POLICE WITH NO PROBLEM WILL GIVE US THAT SERVICE.
AND WE HAD DONE THAT BEFORE IN OUR FUNERAL HOME AND ANY FUNERAL HOME FOR ANYONE.
ALL I'M SAYING TONIGHT, IT IS JUST PRE-SUBMISSION.
SO I'M NOT EXPECTING FULL ANSWERS TO ANYTHING TONIGHT.
THERE IS, UH, RIGHT NOW A FUNERAL HOME ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
ONE OF THE THINGS YOU MIGHT WANT TO DO IS TO SPEAK TO THE YONKERS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UH, AND, UH, AND, AND SPEAK TO OUR OWN POLICE DEPARTMENT HERE.
SO SPEAK TO THE, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
GREENBURG SPEAKS TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN YONKERS AND SEE HOW, WHAT ISSUES THEY HAVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO LINE UP AND GET
THEN THE ONE IN YONKERS MM-HMM.
THE OTHER THINGS THAT THEY SUGGEST TO US IS THAT, UH, SINCE MY HUSBAND IS BEING, UM, WE ALREADY OWN IT AND WE HAVE EXCUSES WITH OTHER FUNERAL HOMES SPECIFICALLY, WE CAN HAVE A STOP SIGN AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE FUNERAL HOME, LIKE A STOP SIGN ON CENTRAL AVENUE, I WOULD SAY.
THAT'S WHY YOU NEED TO SPEAK TO THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT.
YOU'RE NOT HAVING A STOP SIGN.
YOU STOPPING TRAFFIC AT CENTRAL AVENUE, THE TOWN.
SO, SO MAYBE ON THE WAY, SPEAK TO THE YONKERS POLICE, THEY CAN GIVE YOU A GOOD DIRECTION.
THE OTHER CONCERN, SAFETY GREENBERG, THE OTHER CONCERN WAS THAT, AND MY HUSBAND CAN TELL YOU THAT MORE THAN ME, IS THAT BECAUSE WE WENT ALL THROUGH ALL THAT WITH MR. GAR, UH, WE WOULD NEVER WANTED TO HAVE PROTECTION ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE POOR CONCERN OF THE COMMUNITY.
WE WOULD LIKE THE PROCESSION TO GO FROM THE PARKING LOT INSIDE, INSIDE OUR PARKING LOT NOT TO BE ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
I THINK WE'RE TALKING I APPRECIATE THAT.
FOR THE STAGING, OF COURSE WE'RE
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TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S LEAVING.CEMETERY, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS CEMETERY WAS ABOUT LINING UP.
BUT WE WOULD NOT HAVE IT ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
THAT, THAT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR THE SAKE OF EVERYBODY.
THE OTHER THING IS THAT MY HUSBAND SHOULD SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE IN THIS BUSINESS.
UH, NEW YORK STATE DOES NOT ALLOW FUNERAL HOMES TO DO CREMATIONS INSIDE THE FUNERAL HOMES.
SO THAT SHOULD NOT BE A CONCERN.
AND HE, IF, IF YOU WANT ANY MORE QUESTION, HE HAS TO BE THE ONE ANSWERING THAT QUESTION.
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT NEED TO BE DONE.
UM, I, I, I HAVE JUST ONE COMMENT.
I MEAN, IN MY MIND, THINKING ABOUT IT, I THINK THE MAIN ISSUE IS GONNA BE IF THE PROCESSION GOES OUT AND HAS TO MAKE A LEFT TURN ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
IF IT HAS TO MAKE A LEFT TURN, I THINK YOU NEED SOME SOMEBODY TO DIRECT TRAFFIC.
MAYBE THE GREENBERG POLICE WILL DO IT.
MAYBE YOU CAN PAY THE GREENBERG POLICE TO DO IT.
MAYBE YOU COULD HAVE YOUR OWN PERSON WITH A NICE REFLECTIVE VEST IN A YELLOW BATON.
YOU KNOW, GET OUT, STOP TRAFFIC FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES.
AGAIN, SPEAK TO GREENBERG POLICE, ALSO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE AT THE YONKERS FUNERAL HALL.
SEE HOW THEY SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE CAN SAY EXACTLY WHAT CEMETERIES WOULD BE GOING TO, BUT A LOT OF THEM ARE UP HERE, TELL YOU.
SO WE HAVE, SO, YOU KNOW, JUST WORKING OUT WHAT THAT TRAFFIC HAS OR TRY TO PREVENT TURNING LEFT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
IF IT, IF, IF THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN, THEN MAYBE AN OPTION IS PROPOSAL FUNERALS THAT YOU CAN, THEY CANNOT BE DIRECTED TOWARDS THE LEFT, UNFORTUNATELY.
THEY'LL HAVE TO GO HALF A MILE FURTHER.
WELL, THAT COULD BE AN OPTION.
I THINK THAT IF YOU HAVE TO GO SOUTH, IT'D BE PROBLEMATIC.
IF YOU HAVE TO GO SOUTH OF A FUNERAL HOME, YOU ALMOST HAVE TO TAKE A LEFT OR ELSE YOU'D END UP IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WHICH WOULD BE WORSE.
SO THERE ARE, SO YOU CAN BE OKAY.
IT WOULD SEEM LIKE THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES TO COORDINATE, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO CONTINUE THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE APPROPRIATE TOWN STAFF.
I THINK ONE THING THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO KNOW IS HOW MANY FUNERALS WOULD YOU EXPECT ON AN AVERAGE DAY OR ON THE BUSIEST DAY? BECAUSE HONESTLY,
IT'S PROBABLY A HANDFUL AT MOST.
I COULD, IT'LL TAKE US ROUGHLY.
IF, IF EVERYTHING SPEAKING OF THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
I, I THINK THAT IT WOULD TAKE US ABOUT FIVE YEARS TO DEVELOP THE LOCATION.
UM, YOU MEAN TO GET ENOUGH BUSINESS THAT YOU'RE GOING CONSTANTLY, RIGHT.
THAT EVERYTHING IS MOVING ALONG.
AND BASICALLY EVERYTHING AS FAR AS FUNERALS, EVERYTHING IS USUALLY DONE BEFORE 12 NOON.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GOING TO A CHURCH OR CEMETERY, IT'S USUALLY ANYWHERE A LITTLE AFTER NINE.
AND THE LATEST, PROBABLY 11, 11 30.
THERE'LL BE OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE, YOU CAN LEAVE AT TWO O'CLOCK, BUT, UM, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING DURING THE MORNING RUSH.
WE'RE GONNA BE AVOIDING ALL THAT RUSH.
YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GONNA WORK.
AND HOW MANY A DAY? HOW MANY A DAY DO YOU THINK THOUGH? EXCUSE ME, SIR.
HOW MANY FUNERALS A DAY WOULD YOU THINK? OH, NO, NO.
THE, THE MOST WE CAN HANDLE AT, IF, IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL WOULD BE THREE.
I MEAN, BECAUSE SOMETIMES, CAN I HAVE A QUESTION? SOMETIMES? YEAH.
SOMETIMES WHEN, UH, SAY A LOCATION LIKE THAT, I CAN SEE IT EASILY GETTING INTO AT LEAST MINIMUM A HUNDRED FUNERALS.
BUT IT'LL TAKE A COUPLE YEARS TO, TO GET UP TO THAT POINT.
A HUNDRED A YEAR, NOT A DAY TO START.
WE, WE WENT THROUGH THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC AND IT WAS NOT NO, NOT AT ALL.
UM, BEYOND DOING THE FUNERALS, YOU'RE ALSO HANDLING WAKES, I'M IMAGINING.
SO THOSE ARE DONE IN THE EVENING.
SO THERE'S ALSO EVENING ISSUES AND THERE'S ALSO PARKING ISSUES WITH WAKES.
IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TWO CHAPELS, YOU COULD CONCEIVABLY BE HAVING TWO SEPARATE WAKES AT ONE TIME.
WILL 73 PARKING SPOTS HANDLE TWO WAKES? I THINK RIGHT NOW AT THAT LOCATION, THE WAY WE'VE SEEN THE PAPERS, IT STATES THAT IF WE, THERE'S 80 SPACES THERE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WILL CONTINUE TO COORDINATE AND THERE NEED TO BE A PROPERTY SERVICE.
I DON'T THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT, ABOUT THE CODE.
I THINK SHE'S TALKING ABOUT REALITY.
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IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.BUT MOST, MOST FUNERALS THROUGH THE YEARS THAT I'VE SEEN, IT'S A FLOAT.
PEOPLE COME IN, THEY PAY THEIR RESPECTS, THEY'RE ON THEIR WAY OUT.
SO TYPICALLY, HOW MANY DO YOU THINK YOU'D HAVE? HAVE AN, AN H CHAPEL AT A TIME? IN A WAY, ABOUT 50 TO 70 PEOPLE.
AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T COME INTO INDIVIDUAL CARS.
I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE MAY NEED TO ADDRESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WITH NO PARKING SIGNS.
THAT TYPE OF THING IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO REMEMBER TO LOOK AT.
AVERAGE FUNERAL HOME IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY DOES NOT HAVE 80, 80 SPACES.
THE MOST, UM, FUNERAL HOMES, THE MOST THAT THEY HAVE THAT I'VE HEARD, IT'S ABOUT 40 SPACES THAT I'VE, THROUGH MY EXPERIENCE THAT I'VE SEEN.
AND THEY DO HAVE MORE THAN ONE CHAPEL.
CAN I, WALTER, ANOTHER QUESTION? UH, YEAH, THERE ONE THE QUESTIONS BY THE, THE PCC WAS, UH, WHETHER OR NOT, UH, THE TIME THAT THE FUNERAL HOME WILL BE IN THAT WILL BE ACCIDENT.
WALTER, I'M SORRY TO INTERRUPT.
IF YOU'RE GONNA TURN AND FACE THE APPLICANT, PLEASE HOLD THE MICROPHONE AS YOU TURN.
UH, THE QUESTION IS WHAT TYPE OF ACTIVITY DO YOU HAVE IN THE EVENING AND TO WHAT TIME? ALRIGHT.
UM, THE AVERAGE, THE LATEST THAT WE USUALLY HAVE A VIEWING TO ABOUT, UH, EIGHT TO NINE O'CLOCK.
THAT'S THE AVERAGE ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES.
AND, UH, AND USUALLY THEY START, UH, THEY CAN START BY TWO O'CLOCK AND SOMETIMES THEY SPLIT SESSIONS, WHICH IS TWO TO FIVE, SEVEN TO NINE, OR SOMETIMES TWO TO FOUR, SEVEN TO NINE.
OR SOMETIMES THEY JUST HAVE ONE SESSION, WHICH COULD BE TWO TO SIX, AND THAT'S IT.
SO IT VARIES DEPENDING ON THE NEED OF THE FAMILY.
NO, THAT'S EARLIER THAN, UH, RESTAURANT.
WELL, THE OTHER THING I'VE SEEN, IF, IF, IF INDEED YOU GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU'VE GOT A COLLISION OF TWO OR THREE EVENTS, I'VE SEEN THIS DONE IN FUNERAL HOMES, YOU HAVE PEOPLE WHO CAN ACTUALLY DIRECT THE TRACK.
THEY, MY SONS WORK FOR OTHER FUNERAL HOMES ALSO.
AND THEY, UM, WHAT DO THEY CALL THAT? UH, VALET, BASICALLY.
I MEAN, THERE ARE OTHER PARKING LOTS, BUT NEARBY BUSINESS IS NOT THAT WE WANT THEM TO, IF YOU DO STRUCTURED PARKING, GET A LOT MORE THAN 70 CARS NOW CARS MATCH.
SO ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? DID YOU BECOME CHAIR? SO
IF YOU WANT TO DO IT, GO RIGHT AHEAD.
UH, NO, IT WAS HAD TO DO WITH THE HANDICAP BASIS AND HE SAID 80, I THOUGHT IT WAS 70.
THE PLAN WE SAW WAS 75, BUT WE WERE TOLD, I THINK THAT'S NOT THE CURRENT PLAN.
WE'LL HAVE TO GET AN ACCURATE SITE PLAN BEFORE THE, WITH THE APPLICATION AND THEN WE CAN EVALUATE THAT.
THERE IS A HANDICAP LIFT FOR THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND THEN, UH, FOR THE FIRST FLOOR, FOR THE VIEWING AREA THAT WE WOULD USE, THERE'S NO NEED FOR, UH, HANDICAPPED PARKING SPACES.
IT'S JUST ON THE PLAN YOU GAVE US.
THERE'S, THERE'S, I THINK THREE OR FOUR SPACES FOR RIGHT IN FRONT.
BUT, UM, AS I WAS TALKING TO AARON FOR A FEW MINUTES THIS, THIS MORNING, AND, UH, HE EXPLAINED THAT, YOU KNOW, A MORE DEVELOPED SITE PLAN WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, ABSOLUTELY DONE BECAUSE THE AERIAL PICTURES DID NOT MATCH WHAT WERE PRESENT.
WE'RE TAKING THIS OTHER APPLICATION, FINE.
AND JUST TO GET A FEELING OF WHAT WOULD BE THE MAJOR CONCERNS AND, AND IN SITUATIONS.
OTHER QUESTION? ONE OTHER QUESTION THAT CAME IN, UH, TO MY OFFICE RELATED TO ANY FOOD PREPARATION OR DRINK SERVICE IN CONNECTION WITH THE FACILITY.
WELL, I WAS TOLD, UM, THAT IN WESTCHESTER, THEY, WE, WELL WITH THIS FACILITY, IF WE NEEDED TO, WE DO HAVE AREAS THAT WE CAN ASSIGN FOR ANY CATERING.
CATERING NOT, IT'D BE, IT'D BE BROUGHT NOT ON SITE PREP.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT A RESTAURANT.
WE DON'T WANT BE A RESTAURANT.
NO, THAT DOESN'T GO TOGETHER, RIGHT? NO, NO, NOT AT ALL.
BUT, BUT WE CAN SET UP, THERE'LL BE AREAS JUST FOR THAT.
I, I USE, YOU DON'T WANT A MIX.
I'M NOT SURE WHO YOU'D HURT MORE THE FUNERAL HOME OF THE RESTAURANT, BUT DURING THAT
WHAT WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT NOW IS WHAT THE PROCEDURE IS.
SO THE SITE PLAN, ALL THE APPROVALS WILL COME TO US
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FOR THE SITE, FOR THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND THE SPECIAL PERMIT, BECAUSE IT'S, AND THE CA DISTRICT COMES TO US AS WELL.YOU WILL HAVE TO GO TO THE ZONING BOARD.
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPACES, YOU'LL HAVE TO GO TO THE ZONING BOARD.
UM, IT OBVIOUSLY SPEEDS UP YOUR TIME IF YOU DO HAVE ENOUGH SPACES.
'CAUSE THE ZONING BOARD ONLY MEETS ONCE A MONTH.
UM, THE BIGGEST THING, AS I SAID, IS GOING TO BE FIGURING OUT THE TRAFFIC SITUATION.
I WOULD TRY TO DO THAT AS SOON AS YOU POSSIBLY COULD.
UM, IF YOU'VE GIVEN, BEEN GIVEN SOME NAMES OF TRAFFIC CONSULTANTS, THAT THAT'S A HELP WE'LL BE, WE'LL BE USING OUR OWN TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AS PART OF THIS AS TOO, AARON WILL EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS TO YOU.
AND I ALSO SUGGEST YOU TALK TO THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY, UH, PEOPLE IN, UH, GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT COULD HELP BE VERY HELPFUL IN SUGGESTIONS TOO.
AND THAT IS, I I I, I KEEP TRYING TO THINK, I KNOW IT'S NOT LIEUTENANT RE REGEN ANYMORE, SO, NO, IT'S SERGEANT FONTELLA.
AND WE'RE COATING SERGEANT FONTELLA.
AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY HELPFUL ON, ON THESE THINGS, THINGS AS WELL.
JUST WOULD ADD THE YSS AND THE OTHER FUNERAL BOTTLE.
IF YOU GET SOME IDEAS FROM, FROM THE, THE OTHER FUNERAL PAR IN YNK ON YEAH.
THEY DON'T FACE, UH, CENTRAL AVENUE.
THEIR ADDRESS MIGHT BE THERE, BUT THEY'RE OFF AT TUCKO.
I THINK IT'S STUCK A WHOLE ROAD.
ANOTHER ONE YOU MEAN? YEAH, I THINK IT'S STUCK.
AND IT'S ALSO NOT IN COURT, THE RETAIL AREA, IT'S OUTSIDE THE RETAIL AREA.
SO, BUT, BUT THOSE ARE THE STEPS TO BE TAKEN.
UM, THE SOONER YOU GET ALL THAT STUFF TOGETHER, UM, IT WON'T BE PRESENTED TO THIS PLANNING BOARD TILL AARON AND STAFF ARE HAPPY THAT IT'S READY TO BE PRESENT.
SO THE SOONER YOU WORK WITH THEM AND LISTEN TO THEM AS TO WHAT YOU NEED TO, TO, TO DO, TO PRESENT.
IT COMES TO US FOR A WORK SESSION, MAYBE TWO, DEPENDING ON WHERE WE ARE ON SOME OF THESE ISSUES.
THEN IT GOES TO A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN, AND THEN WE, UH, HAVE A, A WORK SESSION AGAIN, JUST TO VOTE ON, ON, ON THE APPROVAL.
CAN I SAY ONE THING? YES, SIR.
BUT I, I BELIEVE YOU GOT THE MESSAGE, BUT I THINK YOU'RE HEARING THAT THE BUILDING ITSELF IS NOT A QUESTION FOR US.
AT LEAST I'M NOT HEARING ANY ISSUES WITH THAT.
THE PARKING, IF IT'S SUFFICIENT, SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE.
IT'S THE FLOW AND THE, THE TRAFFIC AND GOING, UH, ONTO CENTRAL AVENUE.
THAT'S REALLY THE BIG QUESTION.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE IN COMMUNICATION FOLLOW UP.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN TONIGHT.
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU AGAIN SOON.
OKAY, AARON, SO I TOOK SOME NOTES.
I'M GONNA SEND THOSE TO YOU, THEN WE CAN KEEP MOVING FORWARD.
SO BOB, WHAT WE'LL DO, WE'RE GONNA DO THIS IN A WORK SESSION FIRST.
LET ME ANNOUNCE, IT'S THE CASE.
IT'S CASE PB 2210, WHICH IS, UH, CHOW.
IT'S FOR PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION WETLAND, WATERCOURSE PERMIT, TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
LET'S FINISH WHAT WE HAVE TO DO FROM A A WORK SESSION POINT OF VIEW.
THEN WE'LL JUST BREAK FOR A COUPLE MINUTES TILL GRAPHERS SET UP AND EVERYTHING AND GO IN A PUBLIC HEARING, GET THE WHOLE THING UP.
SO COME ON UP AND, UH, HEY, UM, BOB, JUST KIND OF LIKE A BRIEF UPDATE.
YOU WENT TO THE C A C, IF ANYTHING CHANGED, I THINK ELLIOT'S PRESENTING A, A SLIGHTLY REVISED LANDSCAPE, RIGHT? I'M HERE WITH ELLIOT.
AND, UH, SINCE I SAW YOU LAST, WHICH I THINK WAS ON JANUARY 23, UM, YOU SENT A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION.
I PROVIDED IT DEEDS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
UM, THERE WAS A DETERMINATION MADE BY, UH, OH, AT THAT PLANNING BOARD MEETING THAT YOU WANTED TEST PITS DONE.
SO ELLIOT WAS COMMISSIONED TO DO THAT.
HE'S PERFORMED THEM A REPORT ON THE RESULTS.
UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, STAFF DETERMINED THAT A WETLANDS, UH, WATERCOURSE PERMIT WAS NEEDED.
UH, AND WE WENT, UH, PREPARED THAT ELLIOT PREPARED THAT I PRESENTED THAT BEFORE THE C A C THEY GAVE A UNANIMOUS POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
UH, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT'S HAPPENED WAS, UH, I THINK A FURTHER ATTEMPT TO GET THE NEIGHBORING LOT OWNER TO TRY TO AGREE, UM, WAS MADE AGREE TO A LOT ADJUSTMENT.
THEY STILL DIDN'T WANNA DO IT.
SO, SO YOU'RE LIVING IT THE WAY IT IS? YES.
UM, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ELLIOT ON THE, UH, WORK HE DID WELL, ME, HE'S RIGHT HERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR ELLIOT BEFORE WE GO ON A PUBLIC HEARING? EACH HEARING? NO, I HAVE ONE.
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BUT YOU HAVE ENOUGH AREA PUBLIC HEARING, IT CANNOT BE CORRECT.I, UH, THE, THE DRIVEWAY, UH, IT STARTS, WHAT IF I, WELL, I THINK I WROTE IT DOWN.
IT, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT A THREE FOOT DROP FROM THE BEGINNING.
IT'S ABOUT A THREE FOOT DROP FROM THE HOUSE TO THE STREET.
SO THAT MEAN THE WATER WILL BE FLOWING DOWN.
NOW WHAT ARE YOU DOING WITH, IS THERE, DOES THAT FLOW INTO A CATCH BASIN ON THE ROAD OR ARE YOU CAPTURING THAT, OR WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THAT WATER? UH, WE ARE SHOWING A PLAN, A, UH, TRENCH DRAIN AND A FOR TEX AT THE, UH, ON THE SIDE DECK.
BECAUSE I WASN'T SURE WHAT THAT WAS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN THE BOARD? LET ME SEE.
AARON, I THINK IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE JUST FOR THE BOARD TO SEE QUICKLY THE REVISED OR, WELL, WHAT I WOULD DO, I'D LIKE TO DO THAT IN PUBLIC HEARING 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO DO IT ANYWAY IN PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE CAN GO THROUGH THE WHOLE, BECAUSE YOU GOTTA GO THROUGH A DESCRIPTION OF PLAN TECHNICALLY FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ANYWAY, SO I DON'T WANT JEFF TO DO IT TWICE.
ANYTHING ELSE THEN BEFORE MONA CORT? OKAY.
SO WHY DON'T WE, UH, FINISH WITH THE WORK SESSION.
UM, YOU ALMOST SET UP BARBARA.
DO WE WANNA DO A SEEKER BEFORE WE BREAK FOR, UH, WE'LL DO SEEKER.
DO YOU WANNA DO SEEKER FOR UP THERE? I THINK YOU COULD DO IT RIGHT NOW.
WE'LL DO, WE'LL DO IT FROM HERE.
UH, THIS IS UNLISTED ACTION UNDER SEEKER.
COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO CALL IT AN ENLISTED ACTION UNDER SEEKER, PLEASE? I HAVE A SECOND.
ALL OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS? NONE.
UH, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO DECLARE A NEGATIVE DECLARATION UNDER SEEKER, PLEASE? STILL MOVED.
ALL OPPOSED AB EXTENSIONS? NONE.
SO CARRIE, SO WE'RE GO WITH THAT.
SO GIVE US A COUPLE MINUTES TO SET UP, UP THERE.
WE'LL GO IN A PUBLIC HEARING AND ELLIOT JUST GENERALLY GO THROUGH WHAT THE PLAN IS, PLEASE.
FOR THE PUBLIC, PUBLIC, WHOEVER IS THE TWO PEOPLE WHO MAY BE LISTENING, IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE SHORT, BUT JUST TRY TO JUST TURN ON YOUR MICS IF YOU HAVE IT ALREADY.
WELCOME TO THE PUBLIC HEARING PORTION OF OUR MEETING TONIGHT.
UH, MR. SCHMIDT, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLE PLEASE? SURE.
AND MS. FREYTAG, OUR ALTERNATE MEMBER HERE.
FIRST CASE THIS EVENING IS PB 2210, WHICH IS THE, UH, CHOW SUBDIVISION ON NO, NO ADDRESS.
'CAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN ASSIGNED ONE YET, I GUESS.
UM, IT'S A PRELIMINARY SET, UH, SUBDIVISION WETLAND, WATERCOURSE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT WHERE I'D LICENSE THIS A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF YOU COULD SPEND MAYBE FIVE MINUTES JUST EXPLAINING THE PROJECT FOR THE PUBLIC, PLEASE.
HI, ELLIOT
UM, THE PROJECT IS A, UH, TWO PARCELS OF PROPERTY IN THE BACK, UH, THAT ARE CONNECTED TO THE STREET BY A 50 FOOT STEM.
UH, WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, A SINGLE HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY OF THE PROPERTY IS 89,000 SQUARE FEET IN A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT ZONE, SO ABOUT THREE, UH, FOUR TIMES THE MINIMUM REQUIRED.
OVERALL, UM, WE WERE REQUESTED TO DO SOME DEEP TEST PITS AT THE, UH, PRIOR WORK SESSION.
UH, WE ACTUALLY DID THREE TEST PITS.
UM, THE, UH, MINIMUM DEPTH THAT WE DID WAS SIX FEET, UH, WHICH IS, UH, PLENTY OF SPACE TO DO A DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
UH, WE DO PROPOSE A DRAINAGE SYSTEM CONSISTING OF, UH, CULTEC, UH, INFILTRATORS.
THEY'RE PLASTIC, UH, CONTAINERS THAT WILL COLLECT THE WATER AND LET IT INTO THE GROUND.
UM, I THINK WE HAD DONE, UM, PERK TEST AS WELL.
UH, AND WE SHOW A DOZEN OR SO, UM, CULT TEXTS, UH, OFF THE END OF THE DRIVEWAY.
UH, WE'RE SHOWING A DRIVEWAY COMING IN, UM, TO THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
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THE HIGH SIDE.UM, I ALWAYS LIKE TO PUT THE HOUSES ON THE HIGH SIDE AND THE LOW SIDE SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE WATER RUNNING INTO IT.
UH, WE DO, WE ARE TAKING DOWN A, UM, SEVERAL TREES, SEVEN TREES, UH, AND WE'RE PLANTING NINE TREES IN THEIR, UH, PLACE.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, THREE RED MAPLES, TWO SWEET GUM, TWO BLACK GUM, AND TWO PIN OAK.
UM, BASICALLY I, I PUT 'EM ALONG THE STEM OF THE DRIVEWAY, UH, TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT OF, UM, OF, OF, UM, SHIELDING FROM THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES.
BUT I ALSO THOUGHT IT WAS A NICE SORT OF TREE LINED ROADWAY GOING TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE.
UH, WE'RE TAKING DOWN, UH, THREE TREES IN THE HOUSE AREA, UM, AND FOUR TREES IN THE DRIVEWAY.
SO WE ARE PLANNING THEM BACK IN THE DRIVEWAY.
JUST QUICK QUESTION, IS THE APPLICANT BUILDING THE HOUSE? ARE THEY GONNA SELL IT AFTER THE UH, NO, NO.
THIS IS, UH, THIS IS THE APPLICANT, UH, IS THE CURRENT OWNER.
UM, IT'S, SINCE IT'S A FLAG LOT, NOBODY WAS, UH, WORRIED ABOUT, UH, UH, WHAT THEY CAN DO ON THE PROPERTY.
IT'S SEVERAL PARCEL, UH, THREE PARCELS, I THINK, OR TWO PARCELS PARCEL D AND PARCEL C.
AND SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET IT TOGETHER, UM, AS A, AS A CONSOLIDATION OR A SUBDIVISION SO THAT WE CAN SELL IT AS A, A VALID LOT.
DID YOU, DO YOU HAVE SOME KIND OF IDEA OF WHAT THE BUILDING ENVELOPE WOULD BE THOUGH? THE BUILDING ENVELOPE IS QUITE, QUITE LARGE.
WE DO SHOW, UM, PART OF A BUILDING ENVELOPE.
UH, UM, IT'S A 34 FOOT SETBACK IN THE REAR AND A A 35 IN THE FRONT, 20 ON THE SIDES.
BUT WITH A LONG NARROW LOT LIKE THAT, THE BUILDING ENVELOPE IS PROBABLY 20 OR 30,000 SQUARE FEET IN ITSELF.
WE CAN'T BUILD THAT SIZE HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY BECAUSE, SO YOU HAVE NO IDEA OF WHAT SIZE HOUSE IS GONNA BE BUILT, BUILT THERE AT THIS POINT? NO.
WE SHOW PROBABLY ABOUT, WE SHOW ABOUT A 3000 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE AS A PROFORMA THERE.
I THINK THE HOUSE ON THE, IMMEDIATELY TO THE LEFT OF US IS NOT THAT MUCH BIGGER.
THE, THE, UH, BASKETBALL, THE, THE POOL HOUSE, FORMER POOL HOUSE.
I THINK, UM, YEAH, I'M SURE SURE THAT SOMEBODY IN, IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, I'M, THEY'RE GONNA GO LARGER, BUT, OKAY.
UH, OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE, FROM THE BOARD? YEAH.
UM, THE, THE, I'M THE SLOPE OF THE, THE, THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT OF THE HOUSE.
IT'S WHAT IT LOOKED, I COULDN'T FIGURE OUT.
IS THAT NUMBER 3 94? I GUESS THAT'S THREE NINE.
YEAH, WE'RE UP, THE HOUSE IS UP AT AN ELEVATION, CONTOUR ELEVATION ABOUT FOUR 10.
AND THE EXTREME RIGHT OF THE PROPERTY ALL THE WAY TO THE RIGHT IS AT, UH, TWO, UH, OKAY.
YEAH, IT'S ON THE, IT'S 3 94, SO THERE'S ABOUT 20 10, 10 OR 15 FEET OF SLOPE FROM THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT.
IT'S NEVER, IT'S NOT A STEEP PROPERTY AT ALL.
JUST 20 FEET OF YEAH, IT'S NOT MUCH OF A SLOPE.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OH, I, I, YEAH, JUST WANTED TO ADD SOMETHING.
UM, AS FAR AS THE QUESTION ABOUT THE DRAINAGE, THERE'S A HIGH POINT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DRIVEWAY OR THE MIDDLE OF THE STEM, THAT THAT SENDS SOME WATER TO THE BACK AS WELL AS THE FRONT.
SO YOU HAVE TICS BOTH WAYS? YEAH.
MY QUESTION IS THAT WHY, UH, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NOT A FINAL PROPOSED DRIVEWAY, BUT IT'S ANY WAY THAT, UH, YOU CAN SHORTEN THE DRIVEWAY AND ALSO, UH, POSSIBILITY OF USING A, A PERMI PERMEABLE PAPERS.
SO LET ME JUST REITERATE THE QUESTION, IF I CAN, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. DESAI, THE QUESTION WAS, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITY TO SHORTEN THE DRIVEWAY AND OR UTILIZE PERMEABLE PAVERS? TWO SEPARATE QUESTIONS.
I MEAN, PERMEABLE PAVERS ARE PERMEABLE PAVEMENT, OR IS ALWAYS AN OPTION ON EVERY PROJECT THAT WE'RE DOING NOW, AND WE'RE DOING MORE AND MORE OF THAT, UM, AS, UH, DRAINAGE, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, RETENTION BECAUSE THE USUALLY ON ABOUT 12 OR 18 INCHES OF GRAVEL, AND THAT IN ITSELF BECOMES A DRYWALL OR A CURTAIN DRAIN.
UM, SO YES, THERE'S ALWAYS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
UM, THE PRICES OF A PERMEABLE PAVEMENT ARE ABOUT $15, 15 TO
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$25 A SQUARE FOOT.UH, THE PAVERS ARE SLIGHTLY LESS, BUT MOST OF IT IS THE PREP FOR THE GRAVEL AND THE BASE COURSES AND THINGS.
UM, AS FAR AS SHORTENING THE DRIVEWAY LENGTH, UM, I THINK THAT IT'S ABOUT AS SHORT AS IT CAN GO.
EVEN IF THE DRIVE, EVEN IF THE HOUSE WAS ON THE RIGHT SIDE AS OPPOSED TO THE LEFT SIDE, I THINK YOU'D END UP WITH THE SAME DRIVEWAY LENGTH.
WELL, TELL US ABOUT WHERE YOU WANNA SET THE HOUSE.
I MEAN,
THERE IS A EASEMENT, A RIGHT OF WAY THAT, THAT SORT OF DIVIDES THE PROPERTY, AND WE HAVE TO BUILD A HOUSE ON ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER OF IT.
SO YOU REALLY HAVE TO BUILD A HOUSE ON THE LEFT WITH THAT EASEMENT.
YOU'D HAVE TO BUILD A HOUSE, YEAH.
IF YOU WANTED A DECENT SIZED HOUSE.
IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE YOU DIDN'T BUILD IT TO THE SIZE YOU, YOU'RE PROPOSING.
YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK IT, UM, LIKE I SAID, I LIKE TO HAVE THE HOUSE ON THE HIGH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? KURT, IF YOU'RE DONE WITH YOUR HAND, PLEASE TAKE IT DOWN.
JUST QUICKLY, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, YOU MENTIONED IN THE WORK SESSION THERE'S A WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMIT.
IF YOU COULD GO OVER WHAT THAT ENTAILS AND WHERE THE RESOURCES OH, THE COOPER AREA.
SO RIGHT, RIGHT ALONG THE ROADWAY, THE, FROM THE EDGE OF THE ROAD, THERE'S LIKE A THREE FOOT DROP BEFORE WE GO UP TO THE PROPERTY.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE LOWEST POINT IS RIGHT AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
UH, SO THAT DRAINAGE DITCH IS CONSIDERED A, A WATERCOURSE.
UH, THE PROPERTY TO THE RIGHT OF US, UM, IS THE, IS PIPED, THAT WATERCOURSE IS PIPED UNDER THEIR DRIVEWAY.
UH, WE ARE PROPOSING TO EXTEND THAT PIPE TO THE BEGINNING OF OUR PROPERTY.
UH, AND, AND FILLING IN THAT, THAT LOW POINT, UM, YOUR CODE DEFINES IT AS A WATERCOURSE OR WETLANDS OR WATERCOURSE, AND THEREFORE THE REQUIREMENT FOR THE PERMIT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE'S NO, UH, THERE'S NO OTHER WAY OF ACCESSING THE PROPERTY EXCEPT FOR ACROSS THAT OKAY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC WANNA SPEAK ON THIS THIS EVENING? ANYBODY ON ZOOM? LEMME JUST STOP THE SHARE SCREEN.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION AT THIS TIME? OKAY.
IN WHICH CASE WE WILL CLOSE THE, UH, I'LL TAKE A MOTION AND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL MAY 10TH.
AND WE'LL MAKE THE DECISION AT OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH WILL BE ON THE 17TH OF MAY.
WALTER, DO YOU HAVE A MO MOTION? I SO MOVED.
UH, NEXT CASE IS, UH, PB 2309 H V A REALTY.
UM, WE NEED TO DO SECRET ON THIS, UH, BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE IT'S A SUBDIVISION, COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO DECLARE THIS AN UNLISTED ACTION UNDER SPEAKER PLEASE? SO MOVED.
TOM, CAN I HAVE A SECOND PLEASE? SECOND, UH, LESLIE SECONDS.
UH, ANYBODY OPPOSED? ABSTENTIONS.
CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO DECLARE THIS A NEGATIVE DECLARATION UNDER C A.
WALTER, CAN I HAVE A SECOND PLEASE? SECOND.
UM, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE, BUT AGAIN, SINCE WE'RE A PUBLIC HEARING, COULD YOU BRIEFLY DESCRIBE THE PRO PROJECT TO THE PUBLIC? YES.
GOOD EVENING, CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME'S LAURA MCMAHON WITH LANE ENGINEERING.
I'M REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF 4 99 OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD AND 5 35 OLD TAR OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD.
UH, THIS IS THE VOLVO DEALERSHIP AND THE, UH, NORTH CASTLE BUILDING SUPPLIERS.
SO, UM, WE'RE RESUBMITTING FOR SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
UM, THIS WAS A PREVIOUS RESUBMISSION THAT WAS ALREADY APPROVED IN 2018, I BELIEVE.
UM, FOR A LAND SWAP, IT'S NEARLY A ONE-TO-ONE LAND SWAP BETWEEN THE TWO PARCELS.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF THE LAND SWAP IS TO GIVE PROPERTY, UM, BACK TO VOLVO THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE EXISTING PARKING ON.
UM, AND ON THE SCREEN THAT IS IN THIS AREA.
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EXISTING PARKING AND THEY WANT TO, UM, REVISE THE PROPERTY LINE SO THAT THAT PARKING IS NOW ENTIRELY ON THEIR PROPERTY.AND IN EXCHANGE FOR THAT, THEY'RE GIVING A PIECE OF THEIR PROPERTY BACK TO NEW CASTLE.
UM, AS I MENTIONED, THIS WAS WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE PROPERTY OWNERS AND APPROVED IN THE PAST, BUT THE PLATT WAS NEVER FILED.
UM, THE ONLY CHANGE THAT HAS BEEN MADE SINCE THEN IS THE ADDITION OF A SEWER EASEMENT.
UM, IT WOULD BE A PRIVATE SEWER EASEMENT THAT HAS BEEN WORKED OUT ALSO BETWEEN THE TWO PROPERTY OWNERS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? OKAY.
WE HAVE LIKE 10 PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TALK ABOUT THIS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE PUBLIC? COME UP TO THE, UH, MICROPHONE.
UM, I REPRESENT, UM, MY FAMILY.
WE OWN ALL THE PROPERTIES, UM, ADJOINING THE VOLVO, UM, TELEPHONE COMPANY FROM THE END OF WASHINGTON, UM, AVENUE, BEACH STREET, ALL THE WAY UP, UM, ALMOST TO MANHATTAN AVENUE ON OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD.
UM, FOR, UH, I GUESS A COUPLE WEEKS WE'VE BEEN DRIVING PAST THIS LITTLE SIGN ON OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD AT THE MOST DANGEROUS PARK AND NEVER KNEW WHAT IT WAS FOR UNTIL TODAY.
I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, LET ME LOOK AND SEE WHAT THIS SIGN NOTICE IS ABOUT.
AND LO AND BEHOLD, YOU KNOW, I SEE IT'S ABOUT THIS ADJOINING, UM, THING.
WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A PROBLEM.
UM, VOLVO'S ALWAYS BEEN A GOOD NEIGHBOR.
UM, BUT WE'RE JUST WONDERING WHEN THE PARKING LOTS ARE BEING BUILT, WE ALREADY HAVE A PROBLEM WITH EMPLOYEES PARKING ON THE STREET AND TRESPASSING THROUGH THE PROPERTIES TO GET TO VOLVO.
SO WHEN THESE NEW PARKING DEVELOPMENTS ARE BEING BUILT, WHERE ARE THE EMPLOYEES GONNA PARK IN THE MEANTIME? OKAY, THAT'S A VALID CONCERN RIGHT NOW.
AND YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? OH, I'M SORRY.
UM, 3 36 WASHINGTON AVENUE AND 84 AND 87 MAPLE STREET.
WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS IN THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT ADDRESS? INDIRA'S QUESTION? NOBODY ON ZOOM, COULD YOU ADDRESS THAT FOR US PLEASE? UH, SURE.
AT THIS TIME, UM, THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING TO CONSTRUCT ANY NEW, UM, PARKING FACILITIES.
IT'S SIMPLY JUST THE LAND SWAP, UM, AND FILING OF THE PLAT, UH, TO CORRECT THE PROPERTY LINES BECAUSE THE PARKING IS ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? YES.
THEY'RE JUST ADJUSTING THE LINE SO THAT THE PROPERTY EXTENDS ALL THE WAY TO THE END OF THE PARKING AREA THAT'S ALREADY THERE, RIGHT? YES.
IT SOUNDS, THIS IS NOT A PLAIN BOARD PURVIEW, BUT I'LL MENTION THIS.
THERE'S A SECOND ISSUE I THINK THAT I HEARD THERE.
WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, VOLVO, VOLVO EMPLOYEES PARKING ON THE STREET.
WALKING AND WALKING THROUGH OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
IF IT'S SOMETHING WE, WE'D APPRECIATE YOU MENTIONING TO THE CLIENT, YOUR CLIENT AND, UH, TALKING TO THE NEIGHBORS ABOUT WHAT COULD BE DONE AND RESOLVED THAT, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
UH, NOT OUR PURVIEW, I'M JUST SUGGESTING IT.
UM, I WILL ABSOLUTELY SPEAK WITH THEM ABOUT IT AND I'LL LOOK INTO THE ISSUE.
I, I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE TWO OF YOU WOMEN JUST GO OUT IN THE HALL AND, YOU KNOW, EXPLAIN WHAT THE ISSUE IS SO SHE COULD BETTER COMMUNICATE IT TO HER CLIENT.
GIVEN THAT, UM, I'M, I'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
KEEP THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL MAY 10TH.
SECOND, MICHAEL AND TOM? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
SO WE WILL BE MAKING OUR DECISION ON THE 17TH OF, OF, UH, MAY WE'LL BE ONE OF OUR DECISIONS.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
COULD WE GET MCCORDY, UH, CASE PB 2219 MCCORDY? IT'S A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLANNING STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
THIS ONE CAME BACK FROM THE ZONING BOARD, RIGHT? YES.
AND WE HAVE NICHOLAS SHARIA HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
BOARD MEMBERS, UH, NICHOLAS SHARIA HERE WITH HUDSON ENGINEERING, UM, REPRESENTING PATTY MCCORDY, UH, FOR FIVE HILLCREST SUBDIVISION, UM, IN THE GIMME ONE SECOND.
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MIC BECAUSE THIS IS, THERE YOU GO.AND, UM, AGAIN, BECAUSE THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING, WE'RE GOING TO WANT YOU TO DESCRIBE THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, A FIVE MINUTE DESCRIPTION OR LESS OF THE PROJECT SURE.
BEFORE THE PUBLIC, SO THEY, THEY KNOW WHAT IT IS.
UH, THE APPLICATION IS FOR A, UH, TWO LOT SUBDIVISION ON, UH, HILLCREST AVENUE AND THE CORNER OF CHESTNUT STREET.
UH, IT'S A 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, UH, WITH AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.
UH, THE 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT WILL BE SUBDIVIDED INTO TWO 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
UM, THE EXISTING RESIDENCES TO REMAIN AND A NEW SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WILL BE JUST IMPOSED ON THE, UM, SUBDIVIDED LOT.
COULD YOU JUST BLOW THE, THE, UH, THAT'S BETTER.
JUST CENTER IT TO, IF YOU COULD.
SO, UH, THIS IS, UH, THE EXISTING LOT.
UH, THE, THE LOT ITSELF IS, UH, SORRY, 20,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, UH, WHICH WILL BE SUBDIVIDED TO TWO 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY EX, UH, SORRY.
THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING TO REMAIN, UH, ONE SUBDIVIDED ANOTHER SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING WILL BE BUILT ON THIS SUBSEQUENT LOT AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
UH, THERE IS SOME, UH, PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADWAY ON CHESTNUT STREET SINCE THE, UH, SUBDIVIDED LOT WILL BE FRONT WITH FRONT ONTO CHESTNUT STREET.
UM, WE RECEIVED A VARIANCE, UM, FOR THE FRONT FOR THE LOT.
SORRY FOR THE ROADWAY WIDTH OF THE LOT ON, SO ON CHESTNUT STREET.
UM, SECOND HERE, AS PART OF, UH, JUST AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION WITH THE SUBDIVISION, THE PROPOSED, UM, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS SHOWN HERE, UH, WE'RE GONNA PLANT THREE STREET TREES AS WELL AS DO SOME DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ROADWAY AND CONNECTING TO THE, UH, PAPER STREET ON SPRINGWOOD AVENUE AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT? ON THIS, ON THIS PROJECT I'M HEARING, HOW ABOUT THE PUBLIC? JUST GONNA STOP THE SHARE SCREEN.
IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WISHES TO SPEAK ON THIS APPLICATION? EITHER PRESENT OR ON ZOOM.
WHICH CASE? WE'LL TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.
OPEN TILL, UH, THE 10TH OF MAY.
SO THIS WILL BE ON FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AT AT OUR NEXT MEETING ON MAY 17TH.
UM, NEXT IS CASE PB 22 DASH 20 ELMWOOD PRESERVE EIGHT 50 DOBBS BURY ROAD.
IT'S FOR PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLANNING BOARD, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, WET LAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
UM, THIS THING HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF THE PUBLIC SO MANY TIMES.
I'M NOT SURE YOU REALLY NEED TO DESCRIBE IT AGAIN.
WE'RE HAPPY TO SIT DOWN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
WELL, I WOULDN'T SIT DOWN SO FAST.
BUT, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE DESCRIPTION AGAIN.
UM, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY AS WE GO THROUGH COMMENTS ON THIS TONIGHT, UM, WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS IN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW.
ONLY WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT WITH OTHER BOARDS.
UH, C A C I GUESS, AND, AND OBVIOUSLY THE TOWN BOARD.
AND AS SUCH, I WANNA LIMIT AS MUCH AS I CAN TO COMMENTS REGARDING THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IN THE SUBDIVISION, WHICH ARE THE, THE DRAINAGE IN THE LANDSCAPING PRIMARILY.
NOW, IF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO BRING SOMETHING ELSE UP DURING THIS, ABSOLUTELY THEY CAN, BUT I WOULD HOPE IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD BEFORE OR I WILL STOP IT.
BECAUSE I WANT TO KEEP, I WANT TO KEEP IT TO THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE IN HAND.
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CHAIRMAN, JUST VERY, VERY BRIEFLY 'CAUSE I WANNA MAKE A RECORD ON A FEW THINGS SO THAT IT'S CLEAR PROCEDURALLY.DAVID STEINMETZ FROM THE LAW FIRM OF ZAIN STEINMAN'S HERE REPRESENTING, UH, RIDGEWOOD ELMWOOD OWNER JONATHAN REBO, BRETT OWENS, UH, DIEGO VILLA REAL, AND JAMES CAR FROM J M C.
JUST VERY SIMPLY, WE ARE HERE TONIGHT PRIMARILY IN CONNECTION WITH PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLATT APPROVAL FOR A 113 LOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
AS I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
WE HAVE GONE THROUGH THE FULL SECRET PROCESS.
THERE WAS A D E I S AN F E I S A FINDING STATEMENT ADOPTED.
SO WE HAVE COMPLETED THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
THERE WAS A DETERMINATION BY THE TOWN BOARD TO PLACE US INTO A CONSERVATION SUBDIVISION SO THAT WE COULD EFFECTIVELY CLUSTER OUR 113 SINGLE FAMILY LOTS ON OUR 100 APPROXIMATE 106 ACRES.
UM, I WOULD STATE FOR THE RECORD THAT THE PROPERTY IS PARTIALLY IN THE R 20 ZONING DISTRICT, UH, TO A VERY SMALL EXTENT IN THE NORTHWEST CORNER, PRIMARILY IN THE R 30 ZONING DISTRICT.
IT IS ALSO IN THE GREENBURG SEVEN SCHOOL DISTRICT AND THE ELMSFORD SCHOOL DISTRICT.
SO I WANTED THOSE FACTS IN THE RECORD.
WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOUR BOARD HAS OPENED OR, OR IS ABOUT TO OPEN, UH, THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION HEARING AS WELL AS THE DETAILS ON, UM, TREE REMOVAL A A AS THE CHAIRMAN INDICATED.
WE'RE HAPPY TO WALK THROUGH SOME OF THE MORE DETAILED ISSUES, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN OUR CONSULTANTS AND THE TOWNS CONSULTANTS.
AND THE ONLY THING THAT I WOULD STATE AT THE OUTSET, I, I THINK STAFF IS WELL AWARE THAT WE, WE DID RECEIVE A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FROM YOUR OUTSIDE CONSULTANT LAB, BELLA J M C, ENDEAVORED TO RESPOND AS COMPREHENSIVELY AS THEY COULD.
SOME OF THOSE MATERIALS WERE ACTUALLY FILED TODAY.
WE FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT LABEL.
BELLA, I GATHER, HAS NOT HAD A CHANCE TO FULLY DIGEST, NOR HAVE WE AND RESPOND.
SO, UM, MR. CHAIRMAN, I, I, ALTHOUGH MY INSTINCT IS GONNA PROBABLY MAKE ME WANT TO JUMP OUT OF THE SEAT AT THE END OF THE NIGHT AND ASK YOU TO CLOSE NOTHING, YOU COULD SAY THAT I WON'T.
SO, UM, ALL KIDDING ASIDE, WE FULLY, WE APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT THE BOARD, UH, MAINTAINED US ON THE AGENDA.
THERE'S PLENTY THAT WE CAN COVER AND QUESTIONS THAT WE CAN ANSWER.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, UM, DIEGO OR JAMES? TO JAMES.
IN TERMS OF DISCUSSING ANY OF THE THINGS WITH ELLA, I PREFER TO STATE HOLD THAT NEXT MEETING SO WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A CHANCE TO READ IT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND WE WOULD LOOK TO HAVE LABA PRESENT FOR THAT MEETING AS WELL.
UM, JAMES, I DUNNO WHAT HE'S GONNA PUT THAT.
JIM, WHAT DO YOU, I THINK THEY SHOULD SHOW THE PLAN.
IF YOU WANNA JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THE PLAN AND, AND TALK, YOU CAN ALSO TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT WHERE WE CAME OUT IN DRAINAGE.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S A REAL POSITIVE ACTUALLY.
SO WHERE WE CAME OUT THE LAST TIME AT THE WORK SESSION.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, UM, JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, SINCE THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING, UH, THE PROPOSED ACTION INCLUDES 113 LOT SUBDIVISION WITH, UH, CONSERVATION EASEMENT AREAS ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS REVIEWED DURING THE FINDING STATEMENT AND THE EXTENSIVE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
UM, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, UM, IS BEING MANAGED ONSITE AS WELL AS ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
UM, AND WE'VE PREPARED AN EXTENSIVE, UH, LANDSCAPING PLAN, UH, TO COMPLY WITH THE TOWN'S, UH, TREE ORDINANCE.
UM, WE WENT THROUGH, UH, SEVERAL ROUNDS OF TECHNICAL REVIEW WITH, UH, THE C A C AND THE TOWN'S CONSULTANT.
AND, UM, WE'RE PLEASED TO, UH, GET INTO DETAILS OF THAT, UH, AS, AS MAYOR ARISE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD AT THIS POINT? WE'RE ALL QUESTIONED OUT.
WE JUST REVIEW THE DRAINAGE A LITTLE BIT.
DO YOU WANNA JUST DESCRIBE THE DRAIN, WHAT YOU DID WITH DRAINAGE? SO, BECAUSE YEAH, SURE.
IT, IT DID CHANGE AND WE HAD A GOOD MEETING THE LAST TIME ON IT.
SO JUST GIVE A COUPLE MINUTES ON THAT.
SO, BRIEF OVERVIEW ON THE DRAINAGE IS, UH, WE STARTED WITH, UH, LOOKING AT THE PROPERTY AS A WHOLE, UH, WHERE WE HAVE CENTRALIZED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, INFILTRATION AND DETENTION SYSTEMS. UH, PRIMARILY LOCATED IN, UH, THE CONSERVATION AREAS.
UH, STORMWATER WILL BE CONVEYED VIA PUBLIC UTILITIES IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY PUBLIC ROADS.
UM, AND DURING OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH THE TOWN, UH, WE REFINE THAT PLAN TO INCLUDE ONSITE STORMWATER DETENTION ON EACH INDIVIDUAL LOT, UH, DETAINING UP TO THE 25 YEAR STORM.
UM, AND, UH, THIS HOLISTIC APPROACH TO STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, UH, MEETS AND EXCEEDS, UH, UH, THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENTS.
COULD YOU TREE REMOVAL, COULD YOU TALK ABOUT THE TREE REMOVAL AND THE LANDSCAPING TOO AS WELL, JIM? YES.
SO, UH, AS YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A, A FORMER GOLF COURSE.
SO THERE'S, UH, SOME FAIRWAYS AND SOME OTHER, UH, UNDEVELOPED AREAS THAT INCLUDE TREE
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STANDS.UH, WE HAD AN UPDATED TREE SURVEY PERFORMED.
UH, THERE'S APPROXIMATELY 1400 EXISTING TREES ON THE SITE.
UH, OF THOSE APPROXIMATELY HALF WILL REMAIN, UH, AND HALF WILL BE REMOVED.
UM, THERE IS A ROBUST, UH, REPLANTING PLAN AND LANDSCAPING PLAN, INCLUDING STREET TREES ALL ALONG, UH, THE INTERNAL STREETS AS WELL AS, UH, PLANT PALLET, UH, FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL, UH, BUILDING LOT, UH, SPECIFIC TO WHETHER OR NOT THAT LOT IS EAST, WEST, NORTH, OR SOUTH FACING.
UM, AND THE, UH, REPLACEMENT PLANS DO COMPLY WITH, UH, THE LANDSCAPING ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN.
JAMES, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO JUST QUICKLY DEPICT THOSE DRAWINGS FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE AT HOME? YES.
BOTH THE LANDSCAPING AND MAYBE, UH, I THINK YOU HAD THE CONCEPTUAL DRAINAGE PLAN AS WELL.
IT LOOKS MORE LIKE CURETTE THAN A LANDSCAPING PLAN TO ME.
SO HERE WE'RE LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT, UH, ONE OF, ONE SECTION OF THE, UH, THE PROPERTY WHERE YOU CAN SEE, UH, STREET TREES PROPOSED THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND LET ME JUST FAST FORWARD THROUGH THE PLANS HERE TO OUTTA THE RIGHT AWAY THE TYPICAL LOT LANDSCAPING PLAN.
LET'S JUST ZOOM IN ON ONE HERE.
THIS IS THE, UM, UH, NORTH FACING, EXCUSE ME, THIS IS THE NORTH FACING LOT.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT, UH, THERE'S A, A NICE PLANT PALETTE THAT'S SELECTED THAT WOULD REPRESENT SPECIES THAT SHOULD BE PLANTED THROUGHOUT THIS INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY.
SPECIFIC TO, UH, THINGS LIKE TOPOGRAPHY, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A PATIO OR A DECK OR ANY LITTLE WALLS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT, BUT MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS SELECTED FROM A STANDARD PALLET TO PROVIDE A COHESIVE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY.
WHAT ABOUT SCREENING BETWEEN PROPERTIES? IS THAT SOMETHING YOU CAN LEAVE AS AN OPTION FOR THE BUYER, OR, OR HOW ARE YOU GONNA HANDLE THAT? CERTAINLY CAN BE A HOMEOWNER OPTION.
UH, THERE ARE SOME EXISTING TREES SPORADICALLY PLACED THROUGHOUT THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL REMAIN, BUT IT'S UP TO THE HOMEOWNERS.
SO THAT'LL BE A, AN OPTIONAL THING FOR THE HOMEOWNER.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? UH, I JUST WANTED TO VERIFY, WHEN WE ARE DOING THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, I THINK I HEARD THAT THESE TREES WOULD NOT BE PLANTED ON THE RIGHT OF WAY.
IS THAT TRUE OR? YEAH, TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S POSSIBLE, YES.
THE STREET TREES, THEY WOULD, THEY WOULD, THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THEM BE, APPEAR STREET TREES, BUT WHERE POSSIBLE YEAH, IT WOULD BE LOCATED ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? MONA ETTE? ANYBODY? UH, OKAY.
DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE? YEAH, THE LANDSCAPE AND LANDSCAPING AROUND THAT, THAT, UH, MIDDLE PUBLIC AREA.
COULD YOU, COULD YOU, WHERE THE GAZEBO IS, YOU MEAN? YES.
COULD YOU FOCUS IN ON THAT PLEASE? YES.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE A, ONE OF THE FOCAL POINTS OF THE COMMUNITY CENTRALLY LOCATED, UM, WITH A PROPOSED GAZEBO PAVILION, UH, REALLY TO BE DETERMINED.
BUT THIS SHOWS THE, UH, THE INTENT OF THE AREA, UH, WITH A CENTRAL PAVILION GATHERING PLACE, FOCAL POINT OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, WITH SOME NICE, UH, LANDSCAPING SURROUNDING IT.
AND, UH, WHAT IS THE PROJECTED, UH, SIZE OF THAT PAVILION? WHAT DO YOU WOULD ESTIMATE? IT'S A REASONABLE SIZE FOR IT.
20 BY 20, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, YOU CAN IMAGINE USING IT, PEOPLE'S BRINGING THEIR BEACH CHAIRS AND BLANKETS AND SITTING OUTSIDE IT AND HAVE LIKE A LITTLE BAND OR SOMETHING UP ON THERE, SOME ACTIVITY, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IT COULD BE A VERY, VERY, VERY GOOD PLACE TO, TO, TO CREATE SOME COMMUNITY IN THERE.
WOULD BE KIND OF NICE TO DO THAT.
WHERE, WHERE WOULD THAT BE? YOU CAN'T DO IT ON 20 BY 20? NO, NO, THE 20 BY 20 FOR THE BAND.
WHERE'S THE GAZEBO ON THE, WHERE'S THE GAZEBO ON THE PLAN? IF WE GO BACK TO THE OVERALL, IT'S IN THE RIGHT, THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER HERE ON THIS PLAN.
BUT IF WE GO BACK TO THE OVERALL LAYOUT, LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE UPPER LEFT HAND THAT'S A BASE.
IS IT IN THE MIDDLE OR IS IT NO, CLOSER TO THE, IT'S THE LOWER SCREEN.
LIKE WE WOULD'VE LIKED IT ORIGINALLY, MICHAEL.
WE WANTED IT IN THE MIDDLE, BUT IT IS, IT IS, IT IS PRETTY MUCH IN THE MIDDLE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, I THINK IT SHOULD BE
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JOEM.HE'S GOT ONE OTHER THING TO SHOW YOU.
SO, UH, AT THE LAST MEETING, THE BOARD, UH, WAS INTERESTED IN, UM, HOW THE, UH, COMMUNITY WOULD APPEAR FROM DOBBS FERRY ROAD AS YOU APPROACH.
AND SO WE PREPARED SOME RENDERINGS JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, HOW THE STREET TREES WOULD LOOK AT THE TIME OF PLANTING.
YOU KNOW, THEY'VE GOT A NICE, UH, BOULEVARD ENTRANCE OFF OF DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
UH, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE ON THE SCREEN WITH THE CONTRAST, BUT YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING POND TO THE LEFT AND A NICE, UH, OPEN SPACE CONSERVATION AREA ON YOUR RIGHT.
JUST A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THE SITE.
UH, YOU BEGIN TO SEE SOME OF THE PROPOSED HOMES.
UM, THESE ARE JUST SHOWN AS MASSING.
UM, DETAILS ARE NOT, UH, PICKED ON THIS.
AND THEN, AND THEN FINALLY A LITTLE MORE OF A BIRD'S EYE VIEW.
UH, OBVIOUSLY NOT WHAT YOU WOULD SEE FROM THE STREET, BUT UH, JUST GIVES YOU A SENSE OF THE PRESENCE ON DOBBS BURY ROAD.
THE GREEN SPACE ON BY THE POND, IS THAT USABLE OR IS IT BEHIND THERE? IT WILL BE MAINTAINED BY THE H O A AND IT WILL BE MAINTAINED AS, AS OPEN SPACE PASSER REC.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO PRESENT? ANYBODY IN THE PUBLIC AND IMARI? ANYBODY ELSE BESIDES MURRAY? DON'T WORRY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE JUST WE DID, WE DID GO THROUGH THE LANDSCAPING.
IF YOU COULD SHOW THE CONCEPTUAL DRAINAGE FOR THE BENEFIT OF FOLKS AT HOME.
JUST SO THAT THEY CAN SEE A VISUAL.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'LL SEE ANYTHING THE VISUAL, BUT, OKAY.
MAKE SURE THAT'S OKAY WITH THE CHAIR.
THANK YOU, MR. WE DO WE THINK THERE'S ANY WAY TO GET BIKE TRAILS OR WALKING TRAILS ALONG THERE? I THINK YOU HAVE SOME LITTLE TRAFFIC.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT PUTTING SIDEWALKS, RIGHT? THERE ARE SIDEWALKS.
YOU HAVE WALKING TRAILS, ALL REALLY THROUGHOUT THE, THE WHOLE WHOLE THING.
THEN IN TERMS OF THAT AND BIKES, I WOULD EXPECT THE TRAFFIC IS NOT GONNA BE PARTICULARLY HEAVY.
IT'S A GOOD PLACE TO BIKE, I WOULD THINK.
UH, FOR THE, SO FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, UM, WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN NOW IS A CONCEPTUAL, UH, DRAINAGE PLAN FOR AN INDIVIDUAL.
LOT INCLUDES, UH, DRAIN LEADERS COLLECTING THE ROOFTOP, AND THEN A SYSTEM OF, UH, SMALL INLETS THAT WOULD COLLECT, UH, THE MAJORITY OF THE DRIVEWAY, OTHER HARDSCAPE AREAS, UH, WHICH WOULD THEN BE DETAINED, UH, PRIMARILY OR MOST LIKELY, UH, UNDERNEATH THE DRIVEWAY BEFORE BEING METERED OUT INTO THE SYSTEM.
SO THIS WOULD REPRESENT THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED ON EACH LOT.
WOULD IT BE DETAINED IN ECS, CULTEC, OR ANOTHER PROPRIETARY OKAY.
WE'RE GONNA RELEASE IT SLOWLY.
LIKE A CULT CULTEC IS WHAT YOU DESCRIBED TO US THE LAST TIME.
BUT INTO THE STREET AS OPPOSED TO INTO THE GROUND.
INTO THE, INTO THE STORM DRAIN.
UM, MURRAY THEN IF, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO SAY MR. SYSTEM? NO, I TRY, I TRY TO, AND JUST FOR THE BOARD TO RECOGNIZE, WE DO HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC ON ZOOM THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK AFTER MR. BODEN.
ALL RIGHT, MS. EVANS, WE'LL GET TO YOU IN A SECOND.
I LIVE IN HARTSDALE, NEW YORK.
I CAN STAND FOR THREE OR FOUR MINUTES, BUT THEN I HAVE TO SIT DOWN.
IT'S EASY TO KEEP HA ON A WHEELCHAIR WITH ME.
I'VE BEEN DOING IT WRONG FOR 30 YEARS.
FOR 30 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN SUGGESTING.
WHY DON'T YOU DO THIS? WHY DON'T YOU DO THAT? WHY DON'T YOU DO THE OTHER THING? AND THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
THE LAW IS THE WAY IT IS HAS SOME FLAWS THAT NEEDS SOME ADJUSTMENT.
BUT WHAT'S HAPPENED IS IT'S NOT BEING FOLLOWED.
THIS CAME TO MIND AND W WAS BE THE RAILROAD ACCIDENTS WHERE THE HOT BOX WAS THERE, IT WAS RECORDED AND NOBODY DID ANYTHING ABOUT STOPPING THE TRAIN.
AND IT WAS A HORRENDOUS AND PALLETING OR SOMEWHERE.
AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL DAMAGE WAS ENORMOUS.
THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RUNNING THESE ORGANIZATIONS ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW AS CURRENTLY WRITTEN NEEDS UPDATING.
BUT EVEN AS IT'S WRITTEN, I TODAY ASK FOR THE RES, THE REPLACEMENT OF THE CHAIR OF THE NEW YORK STATE THROUGHWAY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW.
AND I KNOW THEY KNOW WHAT THE LAW IS.
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WROTE AN EMAIL SAYING THAT I WAS GOING TO ASK THE CHAIR OF THE PORT AUTHORITY AND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE PORT AUTHORITY BE REPLACED.THEY DIDN'T BOTHER READING THE EMAIL.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHO SEEMED TO BE IN CHARGE OF THE MEETING.
I SPOKE AT FIVE M T A COMMITTEE MEETINGS RAISING SIMILAR ISSUES.
I'LL, AND IN THIS TOWN, THE LAW'S NOT BEING FOLLOWED AS WELL.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHOSE RESPONSIBILITY IT IS, BUT CERTAINLY NOT MINE.
AND ENOUGH PEOPLE HAVE SAID TO ME, MURRAY, DON'T RESIGN.
IF YOU NEED TO KNOW, I'LL SHOW YOU WHERE.
AND IT'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE MISTAKES LIKE I DID IN THE PAST, AND THEY'VE LEARNED FROM THEIR MISTAKES AND THEY DO IT DIFFERENTLY.
MURRAY, ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK YOUR SUGGESTIONS HAVE BEEN MISTAKES.
SOME OF THEM ARE VERY GOOD SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO PROJECT.
YOU HAVE TO GET A LITTLE CLOSER TO BACK.
I SAID I DON'T THINK YOUR SUGGESTIONS HAVE BEEN MISTAKES.
IN FACT, I'VE FOUND NOT ALL OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS, BUT SOME OF YOUR SUGGESTIONS, VERY HELPFUL IN, IN AND MODIFYING A PLAN WHEN, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT CAME TO HANDICAP ACCESS AND CROSSWALKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
YOUR INPUT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY VALUABLE.
AND I WISH THERE WERE MORE PEOPLE FROM THE PUBLIC THAT WOULD SPEAK UP.
BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO NOW, IF YOU COULD FOR ME, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIFICALLY ON THIS PROJECT? YES.
I'D LIKE YOU TO SPEAK, SPEAK UP.
THE EXITS, THE ROAD MARKINGS FOR ENTERING AND EXITING THAT PROPERTY WERE, THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY WRONG.
IF YOU GO ALONG THAT ROAD, THERE IS TRAFFIC COMING IN FROM MANY, MANY PLACES GOING LEFT AND RIGHT TO REQUIRE A RIGHT TURN ONLY IS DANGEROUS.
THE SIGHT LINES ARE EXCELLENT.
THE AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC IS MINIMAL.
AND IF ANYBODY HAS TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN, NOBODY BOTHERED SAYING, HOW DO I GO TO THE LEFT? YOU'VE CREATED A DANGEROUS SITUATION WHERE NONE EXISTS OR NEEDS TO EXIST.
YOU'VE GOT A GOLF DRIVING RANGE DOWN THE ROAD, PEOPLE TURN LEFT AND RIGHT.
NEW YORK STATE D O T COMMISSIONER HAS TO BE REPLACED AS THE, THE SAME FOR NEW JERSEY BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT LOOKING AT THE WORLD AS EXISTS TODAY.
MOST COMMUNITIES ARE HAVING A STRAIGHT EXIT AND YOU CAN GO LEFT AND RIGHT, AND THAT RAMP THAT GOES TO THE RIGHT REALLY DOESN'T WORK FOR PEOPLE WHO CAN'T LOOK OVER THEIR SHOULDER.
MOST EXITS ARE T EXITS AND YOU LOOK LEFT AND RIGHT AND YOU CAN SEE IT.
NOW WHAT YOU TALKING ABOUT, I HAVE THAT PROBLEM ON THE QUARTER OF DOBBS STRAY ROAD AND HARTSDALE MYSELF 'CAUSE OF MY NECK.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND THAT CAN BE CHANGED EASILY, SORRY, BY THE ANYBODY FROM THE TOWN AS A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER CAN SAY, THIS IS NOT A SAFE CONDITION.
AND BY FILING IT, IT IS CHANGED.
ALL I WOULD SAY IN TERMS OF THAT AND, AND THIS PROJECT, AND I WANNA STAY BACK ON THIS PROJECT, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN BRING UP AGAIN WITH, WITH THE, I'M SURE THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE ALLOW
SO, UM, IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN BRING UP WITH, WITH OUR TRAFFIC CONSULTANT AGAIN, AND, AND OUR TRAFFIC AND SAFETY DEPARTMENT.
SO I ASKED THAT THE TRAFFIC CONSULTANT BE HERE SO THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THIS ISSUE.
THE TOWN OF GREENBURG HAS JUST INSTALLED NEW TRAFFIC CON FOR THE CROSSWALK.
YET THE TOWN OF GREENBURG DOES NOT USE, REQUIRE THE SAFEST CROSSWALK, WHICH IS THE BAR PARALLEL BAR.
I, AS I SAID, NO, IT'S, I'M SORRY.
THIS IS GERMANE TO WHAT'S GOING ON IN GREENBURG TODAY.
MURRAY, IF WE CAN'T, IT'S NOT, EXCUSE ME.
AND I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, BUT WE'RE ALL VOLUNTEERS.
THIS IS, AND WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY ON THE CLOCK IN THE, IN THE, IN THE AUDIENCE.
THREE OF THEM THAT I SEE AT LEAST.
AND THEY DON'T NEED TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO SOMETHING THAT ISN'T RELATED TO THEIR PROJECT.
IT IS RELATED TO THEIR PROJECT, NOT, IT'S WHETHER OR NOT THEY CAN TURN LEFT AND AND SAFELY.
WE BROUGHT THAT UP AND WE SAID WE WOULD, WE WOULD BRING THAT UP.
UH, IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING ELSE SPECIFICALLY ON THE PROJECT, I'M MORE THAN WILLING TO HEAR IT.
I DON'T WANT TO GO ANY MORE INTO THE GENERALITIES.
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THAT WE NEED TO DO THIS EVENING.BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ON THE LEFT, AND YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, RIGHT ABOUT THE RIGHT TURN THING.
'CAUSE I HAVE THAT PROBLEM ALL THE TIME MYSELF PERSONALLY.
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LOOKED INTO THOUGH.
SOMETHING WE WILL BRING BACK TO TRAFFIC AND SAFETY.
WE'LL TALK TO THEM IF THAT'S NOT SET IN STONE TONIGHT.
WE'RE NOT EVEN MAKING A DECISION TONIGHT.
WE'RE NOT EVEN CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT.
SO WE CAN EVEN ADDRESS THAT ISSUE BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING.
I WOULD LIKE TO ADD A COMMENT ABOUT THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT WAS AN ISSUE EARLIER IN THE EVENING ABOUT TRAFFIC CONTROL AND WHETHER OR NOT IT COULD BE DESIGNED.
KOBE POWELL RUNS AN EXCELLENT DEPARTMENT.
AND, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN CONSULTING WITH HIM ON VARIOUS ISSUES.
SO FOR, TO SAY GO THE YONKERS FOR IT, GREENBERG HAS THE BEST, MOST POSSIBLE.
WE REFER THEM TO OUR TRAFFIC AND SAFETY PEOPLE ALREADY.
GREENBERG, THANK YOU SO MUCH, MARIA.
I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON ALL THE TIME AND, AND WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.
I MAY NOT, BUT WE GOTTA BE ON MAY NOT, THEY GOTTA BE ON POINT.
I MAY NOT BE HERE MUCH LONGER, SO I GOTTA GET A LOT DONE FAST,
UH, MS. EVANS, PLEASE TAKE YOUR MIC OFF MUTE AND YOU CAN, YOU'RE, YOU CAN SPEAK.
I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ON THE DRAINAGE.
UH, PLEASE STATE YOUR, YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS.
LINDA EVANS, 2 87 WOODLANDS AVENUE.
UM, SO I'M VERY CLOSE TO THIS PROPERTY.
I DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY, MULTIPLE TIMES.
UM, SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS ON THE STORM THAT WILL LEAD, I'M SORRY, THE DRAINAGE THAT WILL LEAD INTO THE STORM DRAINS.
WHAT IMPACT WILL THE ADDITIONAL VOLUME OF 113 HOMES HAVE WITHIN OUR AREAS? IT COMES TO DRAINAGE BECAUSE I'M SURE, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, WHEN IT RAINS LIKE IT HAS BEEN DOING, WE HAVE A LOT OF WATER DOWN DOBBS BERRY ROAD ON THE MAIN ROADS EITHER.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS ON THAT.
DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, I HAVE TWO OTHERS.
UM, ON THE LANDSCAPING, ARE THE TREES THAT ARE BEING, UH, PLANTED, ARE THEY INDIGENOUS TO OUR AREA SO THAT WE HAVE HAD ISSUES IN OUR AREA OF, UM, DIFFERENT INFECTIONS COMING IN BECAUSE THE TREES WEREN'T RIGHT FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD? AND THE OTHER QUESTION IS, UM, ARE WITH, WITH THE LANDSCAPING, WILL THERE BE ANY INFLUENCE FROM THE ARTS, SLEEP POLLINATOR GROUP TO MAKE IT MORE OF ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY? AND THEN MY THIRD QUESTION IS ALSO ABOUT THE ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC AND THE VOLUME ON DOBS BERRY ROAD.
AS FAR AS THE TURNING, TURNING LANE, WILL THERE BE A TURNING LANE? THERE IS WONDER.
WE CAN ASK THE APPLICANT TO RESPOND TO THOSE THREE ITEMS. MR. THANK YOU, MR. HARRIS OR, OR DIEGO? EITHER ONE OF YOU.
UM, JIM, SPEAKING OF THE MICROPHONE, PLEASE.
WITH REGARD TO, UH, THE LANDSCAPING, UM, YES, THE, UH, SPECIES ARE ALL NATIVE SPECIES.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN SELECTED IN COORDINATION WITH THE TOWN FORESTRY OFFICER.
SO, UH, SO YES, THEY WILL BE NATIVE TO THE AREA.
UM, WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ARDSLEY POLLINATOR GROUP, BUT IT'S, UH, A GROUP THAT SHOULD BE MADE AWARE OF THIS APPLICATION.
UM, AND, UM, AS WITH REGARD TO THE TRAFFIC ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD, UM, THIS WAS STUDIED EXTENSIVELY DURING THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS AND OF ALL OF THE ALTERNATIVES STUDIED, THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME ALTERNATIVE HAS ACTUALLY THE LESS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF ADDITIONAL TRIPS GENERATED IN THE AM AND PM HOUR AND PM HOUR, UH, ACCORDING TO TRIP GENERATION, IT'S APPROXIMATELY 83 ADDITIONAL AM TRIPS AND 114 ADDITIONAL PM TRIPS.
DID YOU ANSWER THE DRAINAGE QUESTION COMING NEXT.
JUST FOR THE RECORD, DIEGO VILL ALLEY WITH J M C, UH, JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN ON THE DRAINAGE ASPECT OF IT.
JUST, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT CLOSELY, ESPECIALLY OF LATE WITH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE HAD.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO STEP BACK AND NOTE THAT AS PART OF THIS APPLICATION, THERE WAS A FULL STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN THAT WAS DEVELOPED FOR THE PROJECT.
THAT STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN REALLY LOOKS AT AND ADDRESSES THE STORMWATER RUNOFF COMING OFF OF THE PROPERTY DURING THE DEVELOPED CONDITION.
SO INCLUDING ALL THE NEW ROADWAYS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED, THE HOUSES, ALL OF THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACES, AND HOW THAT WATER IS BEING TREATED ON SITE.
THERE'S A NETWORK OF ONSITE STORMWATER DRAINAGE BASINS THAT COLLECTS ALL OF THAT STORMWATER CONTROLS
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IT, INFILTRATES IT BACK INTO THE GROUND AND DETAINS IT SO THAT WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE FLOW GOING OFF THE PROPERTY.IN ADDITION TO THAT, BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH THIS BOARD AND WITH STAFF, UH, DURING THE LAST COUPLE OF MEETINGS, WE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT STANDARD AND INCORPORATED ONSITE INDIVIDUAL DRAINAGE SYSTEMS ON EACH OF THESE PROPERTIES AS WELL.
SO THERE'S LAYERED DRAINAGE THAT'S BEING INSTALLED.
SO YOU HAVE ONSITE DETENTION FOLLOWED BY THE MUNICIPAL DRAINAGE INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY, FOLLOWED BY THE STORMWATER BASINS THAT ARE CONSTRUCTED THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
SO, UH, STORM DRAINAGE IS ANOTHER TOPIC THAT'S BEEN STUDIED HEAVILY AS WE WENT THROUGH THIS ENTIRE PROCESS.
AND AGAIN, THERE IS A FULL STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN THAT NOT ONLY MEETS AND EXCEEDS THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENTS, BUT THE STATE'S REQUIREMENTS FOR, UH, CONTROLLING STORMWATER RUNOFF.
I JUST, I DIDN'T HEAR AN ANSWER ABOUT THE TURNING LANE.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S MAYBE 83 OR 114.
IT'S A VERY, IT'S NOT THAT BIG A ROAD FOR THAT MUCH TRAFFIC.
SO I'M JUST CURIOUS, WILL THERE BE A, A TURNING LANE OR NO, JUST ONE ON ONE DIRECTION? UH, WITH THE, UH, THE MAIN ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY, THERE WILL BE A LEFT TURN LANE.
UH, THERE IS AN EXISTING LEFT TURN LANE, UH, TRAVELING WESTBOUND ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD INTO THE ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
AND, UM, THERE'S NOT A LIST, THERE'S NOT A I I DRIVE BY THERE EVERY DAY.
IT'S THE MAIN LANE, AND THERE IS NO LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE, INTO THE HOME THERE.
THE ONLY LEFT TURN LANE IS ONTO SPRINGBROOK PARKWAY NORTH.
WE ARE PROPOSING A LEFT TURN LANE INTO OUR PROPOSED SITE DRIVEWAY.
TO MATCH THE EXISTING LEFT TURN LANE INTO THE ASSISTED LIVING.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS MS. EVANS? NO.
ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE PUBLIC HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY.
IN WHICH CASE, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING TILL THE 17TH OF, UH, WE DON'T NEED A MOTION TO DO THAT, RIGHT? NO.
WE'LL JUST ADJOURN IT AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN RESOLVE THE ISSUES, THE OUTSTANDING ISSUES WITH LAB BELLA BEFORE THEN.
UH, WE HAVE THE REPORT THAT, UH, WAS SENT OVER TODAY THAT WE'LL REVIEW AND OUR CONSULTANTS WILL REVIEW.
HE'LL BE AT THE MEETING GREAT.
AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN WRAP, WRAP UP ALL THE ISSUES AT THAT MEETING AND THEN SHOOT FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE FOR, UH, FINAL POSITION ON PRELIMINARY, ON PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION IS, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT WE COULD WORK OVER THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO DRAFT A RESOLUTION FOR THE NEXT SESSION IN THE EVENT? THERE'S NOTHING NEW THAT COMES UP BETWEEN NOW AND THEN.
I CAN'T, I CAN'T SAY THAT WITHOUT LOOKING AT WHAT, WHAT CAME IN TODAY.
I, I APPRECIATE YOU WANTING TO BE AGGRESSIVE MOVING AHEAD, BUT I WE HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THAT YET, SIR.
AND, UH, TAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING, SO HAVE A SECOND.
HAVE EVERY, EVERYBODY HAVE A GOOD NIGHT.