May 10, 2023 Town Board- Regular

UM, NEXT, UH, BEFORE, BEFORE YOU DO, PAUL, UH, I KNEW BOTH, UH, MARIE ZULO AND, UH, JUDGE FOSTER.

UH, AND AS PAUL MENTIONED, MARIE, SHE'S RETIRED ABOUT 15 YEARS NOW.

BUT THE MEMORIES, THE WONDERFUL MEMORIES OF WHAT PAUL DESCRIBED IS THE SMILE.

YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE DON'T REALLY FULLY APPRECIATE PAYING THE BUILDING PERMIT FEES AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHEN YOU GO TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

UH, BUT SHE MADE IT A VERY PLEASANT EXPERIENCE, AND SHE CONTINUED, UH, TO, TO BE A VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY.

I'VE KNOWN HER SINCE SHE RETIRED BEFORE SHE RETIRED, AND AFTER SHE RETIRED.

AND SHE ALWAYS HAD A GREETING, A SMILE, AND A VERY POSITIVE OUTLOOK ON LIFE.

AND SHE REALLY IS GOING TO, UH, BE SORELY MISSED.

AND JUDGE FOSTER, UH, IT'S AMAZING THAT WE DON'T LEARN.

WE LEARN THINGS AT, UH, FUNERAL SERVICES ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW BEFORE.

AND IT'S A SHAME.

WE DON'T KNOW, LEARN THEM, UH, IN ADVANCE.

UH, BUT SHE WAS REALLY A PIONEER, UH, FOR, UH, TAKING ON TASKS THAT WERE NOT CONSIDERED APPROPRIATE FOR WOMEN.

AND EVERY TIME SHE WAS TOLD THAT SHE COULDN'T DO SOMETHING, SHE SHOWED THAT ONE THAT SHE COULD AND THAT SHE COULD DO IT BETTER.

AND SHE HAS, UH, SHE TAUGHT THAT TO HER CHILDREN, UH, WHAT SHE LEARNED FROM HER MOTHER.

AND, AND IT WAS A, IT WAS A REALLY, A VERY TOUCHING AND EMOTIONAL SERVICE.

AS YOU KNOW, MOTHER, UH, SIBLINGS, GRAND CHILDREN, UH, GOT UP TO SPEAK ABOUT THE, UM, THE TRAILBLAZING, UH, TASK THAT SHE TOOK ON.

UM, AND I, WE KNEW HER AS A JUDGE IN THE TOWN COURT.

UH, BUT THERE WAS ANOTHER SIDE OF HER THAT, UM, PUT MANY OF IT IN PERSPECTIVE, AND THERE THEY CERTAINLY WILL BE MISSED.

SO, JUDITH, WILL YOU DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? TOWN SUPERVISOR PAUL FINERS.

[ ROLL CALL: Town Clerk]

HERE.

COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN HENDRICKS.

PRESENT.

COUNCILMAN GINA JACKSON.

PRESENT.

COUNCILMAN KEN JONES.

PRESENT.

COUNCILMAN HIN, PRESENT AND TOWN ATTORNEY JOE DANKO, PRESENT.

DAVID, UH, CHAD TO GIVE A BRIEF, UM, PRESENTATION ON, UM, A CHARITABLE INITIATIVE THAT HE'S, UM, UM, UH, ORGANIZING, UH, THE DENTAL CARE BRIDGE.

UM, FIRST, UM, ITEM IS, UH, I'D LIKE, UH, TO INVITE

[ (10 minutes*) The Dental Care Bridge: A Charitable Organization - Dave Chadha *Detailed slide show too lengthy to present in full in 10 minutes is attached to online agenda.]

I'LL JUST SAY IN ADVANCE THAT THE ENTIRE SLIDE, HE, HE CUT THEM DOWN THE ENTIRE SLIDE PRESENTATION, THE ENTIRE DECK IS POSTED UP ON THE WEBSITE.

IF YOU CLICK ON HIS PRESENTATION ON THE AGENDA ON THE WEBSITE, YOU'LL GET ME ALL THE SLIDES.

GOAL IS $15,000 ON GOFUNDME.

IS THERE LIKE A, SOMETHING I COULD PUT NO, NOT UP.

JUST, YEAH, YOU COULD.

ALL RIGHT, ONE SECOND.

SO, UM, LEMME START OFF BY INTRODUCING MYSELF.

UM, MY NAME IS DAVE CHARA.

UH, I'M AN RZ HIGH SCHOOL JUNIOR.

UH, AND I FOUNDED A CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION CALLED THE DENTAL CARE BRIDGE.

ESSENTIALLY, WE PROVIDE, UH, DENTAL CARE TO UNDERPRIVILEGED BLIND CHILDREN, UH, IN INDIA AT THE BLIND SCHOOL OF .

UM, WE HAVE RAISED WELL OVER $15,000.

AS OF RIGHT NOW, OUR

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UM, WE PLAN TO HELP A HUNDRED PLUS CHILDREN, BLIND CHILDREN, UM, PROVIDE THEM WITH A MAJOR ISSUE THAT WE SORT OF COLLECTIVELY AS AN AMERICAN SOCIETY TAKE FOR GRANTED.

THOSE KIDS DON'T HAVE INSURANCE, RIGHT? THEY'RE UNABLE TO PROVIDE THEMSELVES WITH DENTAL CARE.

SO WE'RE GOING OUT THERE.

WE'RE, WE'RE HIRING DENTAL ASSISTANTS, DENTAL HYGIENISTS, UM, DENTAL PROFESSIONALS, UM, PEOPLE TO COME OUT AND LOOK AT THESE PEOPLE'S TEETH, ASSESS THEM AND TREAT THEM.

UM, AND I NEED YOUR GUYS' HELP.

UM, I'M HOSTING AN EVENT AT BUSKER.

DO A LOCAL COFFEE SHOP IN LEY.

UM, PLEASE COME BY, BUY A COFFEE.

50% OF PROCEEDS, UH, GO TOWARDS, UM, THE CHARITABLE ORGANIZATION, THE DENTAL CARE GROUP, THE ONE THAT I FOUND.

IT'S FROM THREE TO FIVE, MAY 16TH.

UM, ANYTHING HELPS.

THANK YOU GUYS SO VERY MUCH.

THAT WAS GREAT.

GRANTS, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US, UH, ANOTHER, UH, TUTORIAL ABOUT THE CROSSWALK LIGHT THAT'S GOING UP, UH, ON CENTRAL PARK AVENUE NEAR LOUGHTON.

AND I THINK IT'S TERRIFIC WHAT YOU'RE DOING.

UM, YOU'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE IN, UH, PEOPLE'S, UH, LIVES AND PROVING THAT, UH, UH, WE HAVE TO THINK GLOBALLY, NOT ONLY, UH, LOCALLY, BECAUSE A HUMAN BEING IS A HUMAN BEING WHEREVER THEY, THEY LIVE.

SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR, UH, YOUR LEADERSHIP, AND HOPEFULLY YOU'LL INSPIRE OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE TO DO, UH, SIMILAR THINGS.

UM,

[ (10 minutes) High-Intensity Activated CrossWalK Light installed on Central Park Avenue near Lawton Avenue, operational soon]

UH, GARRETT, CAN YOU, UH, DISPLAY THE, THE SLIDES? SO THE, THE, THE GOOD NEWS, THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT THE LONG AWAITED LIGHT THAT MAY STARTED ITS JOURNEY IN 2019, UH, JUST BEFORE THE PANDEMIC IS A REALITY.

AND YOU'LL SEE THAT THE LIGHTS ARE ACTUALLY BEING HUNG.

AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT, THEY SHOULD BE OPERATIONAL.

IS IT BY FRIDAY, GARRETT? SOON? NOT, NOT THIS FRIDAY, BUT, UH, SOON.

OKAY, .

ALRIGHT.

THE, UH, THE PERENNIAL IN TWO WEEKS.

SO, UH, BUT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW HOW TO USE IT BEFORE IT BECOMES ACTIVE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT A TYPICAL TRAFFIC LIGHT.

'CAUSE IT HAS NO GREEN LIGHT.

AND PEDESTRIANS NEED TO KNOW THAT, UH, UNLIKE BEFORE WHEN YOU JUST WALKED OUT INTO THE STREET, INTO THE CROSSWALK AND EXPECT DRIVERS TO STOP.

OF COURSE, MOST OF THE TIMES THEY DON'T IN A CROSSWALK, UH, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO.

AND BY LAW, THEY HAVE TO, DRIVERS HAVE TO STOP IN A CROSSWALK.

IF THERE'S NOT A SIGNALED, IF IT'S NOT A SIGNALED INTERSECTION, IF IN THIS CASE THE OLD CROSSWALK WAS THERE, WHICH IS EXTREMELY DANGEROUS, UH, BECAUSE OF THE DISTANCE TO GET ACROSS CENTRAL AVENUE, AND THE FACT THAT CARS JUST DON'T STOP OR SEE THE PEDESTRIAN, UH, THAT WAS TECHNICALLY THE DRIVERS HAD TO STOP.

THIS IS NOW A SIGNALED INTERSECTION SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO STOP UNLESS IT'S A RED LIGHT.

AND THIS TRAFFIC LIGHT DOES HAVE A RED LIGHT, DOESN'T HAVE A GREEN LIGHT, BUT HAS A RED LIGHT.

UH, SO YOU NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.

IN ORDER TO CROSS THE STREET AT THIS, AT THIS, UH, INTERSECTION, YOU MUST PRESS THE BUTTON.

DON'T TRY TO GO ACROSS IT.

IT, UH, IT, UH, BASICALLY OBVIATES EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN DOING TO MAKE THIS THIS CROSSWALK SAFE.

IF YOU TRY TO JUST DO IT ON YOUR OWN WITHOUT THE LIGHT ITSELF, DON'T TRY TO DO THAT.

SO, VERY QUICKLY, SINCE I'VE BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE, BUT I WANTED TO DO IT BECAUSE THE LATEST UPDATE I HAD WAS, IT WAS GOING TO BE THIS FRIDAY, BUT IT'S GOING TO BE A FRIDAY , OR SOMEDAY OF THE WEEK.

SOMEDAY.

THAT ENDS IN D A Y, UH, COMING UP.

SO IF THERE'S NOBODY WHO PRESSES THE BUTTON, WHICH YOU'RE GOING TO SEE IS THE DARK LIGHT.

IN OTHER WORDS, THERE'LL BE NO LIGHT.

SO THERE'LL BE NO IMPEDIMENT TO TRAFFIC ON CENTRAL AVENUE WHATSOEVER WITH THIS LIGHT AND THE STATE LIKE THAT.

WHAT YOU, THE PEDESTRIAN WILL SEE, YOU'LL SEE ON THE RIGHT IS THE USUAL HAND STOP.

MEANS DON'T DRIVE TO CROSS.

IT'D BE DANGEROUS TO DO THAT.

IF THE PEDESTRIAN THEN PRESSES A PEDESTRIAN PRESSES THE BUTTON, THE DRIVER WILL SEE A FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT THAT'S TELLING THE DRIVER THAT SOMEBODY HAS PRESSED THE BUTTON.

AND OF COURSE, THAT SHOULD GIVE SOME KIND OF CAUTION.

AS YOU'RE APPROACHING THE INTERSECTION, THE, THE PEDESTRIANS STILL SEES STOP, BECAUSE IT'S NOT SAFE TO CROSS WITH A FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT.

THE FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT WILL THEN TURN TO SOLID YELLOW.

AND NOW THAT'S AN INDICATION TO THE DRIVER TO START TO

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SLOW DOWN AND PREPARE TO STOP.

UNFORTUNATELY, A YELLOW LIGHT FOR MANY DRIVERS MEANS SPEED UP AND GET BY IT BEFORE IT TURNS RED.

SO YOU'LL NOTICE THE PEDESTRIAN STILL HAS A HAND.

DON'T TRY TO CROSS.

THAT WOULD BE UNSAFE.

IF YOU COULD GO DOWN ONE MORE.

JUST, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE STEPS THAT NEED TO HAPPEN BEFORE THIS, THIS LIGHT GOES FUNCTIONAL.

SO THIS IS IT.

YOU GET TWO RED LIGHTS, THE DRIVER WILL SEE TWO RED LIGHTS IN THEIR LANE.

AND BY THE WAY, EACH LANE OF CENTRAL AVENUE WILL HAVE ITS OWN LIGHT.

THEY'LL ALL BE SYNCHRONIZED, OF COURSE, UM, BUT DOUBLE, DOUBLE RED LIGHT SOLID.

YOU NOTICE NOW IS THE ONLY TIME A PEDESTRIAN CAN SAFELY CROSS AT THAT INTERSECTION.

YOU'LL SEE THE IMAGE OF THE, THE WALK, THE, UH, PEDESTRIAN WALKING SOLID RED.

YOU CAN START OFF THE CURB AND GET ACROSS AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME, WHICH WILL BE DETERMINED IN THE FIELD.

AFTER DOING SOME TESTING, THE RED LIGHT WILL START TO FLASH.

ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS THE LITTLE BIT OF A CONFUSING PART HERE.

RED LIGHT FLASHING.

IF YOU ARE IN THE CROSSWALK, CONTINUE TO THE OTHER SIDE.

YOU'LL HAVE TIME TO MAKE IT IF YOU ARE STILL ON THE CURB, DON'T TRY TO START, BECAUSE AT SOME POINT IT'S GOING TO GO DARK AGAIN AND YOU'RE PUTTING YOURSELF AT RISK.

SO, FLASHING RED LIGHT CONTINUE IF YOU'VE ALREADY STARTED IN THE CROSSWALK IN THE STREET, BUT IF YOU'RE STILL ON THE CURB, DON'T RISK IT.

IT'S NOT WORTH IT.

ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TO WAIT FOR IT TO GO DARK AND PRESS THE BUTTON AGAIN.

AND THE PEDESTRIANS GET PRIORITY ON THIS TRAFFIC LIGHT, SO IT'S NOT WORTH IT.

AND THEN IT'LL GO DARK AGAIN.

SO, FLASHING YELLOW LIGHT, CAN A PEDESTRIAN CROSS? NO SOLID YELLOW, UH, CAN A PEDESTRIAN COR CROSS? NO, THE ONLY TIME THE PEDESTRIAN COULD STEP OFF THE CURB AND HAVE SOME ASSURANCE OF BEING SAFE IS A DOUBLE RED LIGHT.

IT'S THAT SIMPLE.

BUT SINCE IT'S NOT YOUR TYPICAL LIGHT, WHAT THE STATE ACTUALLY WANTS US TO DO IS TO EDUCATE THE DRIVERS AND THE PEDESTRIANS PREFERABLY IN ADVANCE.

AND BECAUSE OF, I DUNNO WHAT THE LATEST ISSUE IS BECAUSE I KNOW ALL THE PARTS WE'RE IN, UH, THEY'RE GIVING US PLENTY OF TIME TO DO THIS IN ADVANCE, AND THAT'S IT.

AND SO IF YOU DRIVE BY THERE, YOU'LL SEE THAT LIGHT.

AND IT'S LIKELY GONNA BE DARK, UM, FOR SOME OTHER PERIOD OF TIME.

I HAVE NO IDEA.

SO I THANK YOU.

SO FRANCIS, WILL, WILL HIS DIRECTIVES BE POSTED ALSO ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD AT THE HAWK LIGHT ITSELF? SO PEDESTRIANS WHO HAVEN'T SEEN THIS PRESENTATION CAN KNOW HOW TO OPERATE IT.

WELL, THAT'S THE THING IS RIGHT NOW, I WAS SPEAKING TO GARRETT AND WE'RE TRYING, COULD YOU PUT THAT BACK UP AGAIN, GARRETT? I WHAT'S UP THERE RIGHT NOW? THIS, THIS RIGHT THERE IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.

IT SAYS CROSSWALK STOP ON RED.

THAT'S THE ONLY THING RIGHT NOW THAT'S THERE.

WHAT GARRETT'S TRYING TO DO IS TO GET THE STATE TO AGREE TO A SECOND SIGN NEXT TO THIS ONE.

BUT IT'S A STATE ROAD, IT'S A STATE SIGN, AND THERE'S A CONCERN IF YOU PUT TOO MUCH SIGNAGE UP THERE, THEY MIGHT MISS THE SIGNAGE OF STOP ON RED.

SO THEY HAVE TO GIVE PERMISSION FOR THAT.

AND MAYBE THEY'LL GIVE IT, MAYBE THEY WON'T.

IT'S ON SOME LIGHTS IN SOME PLACES.

UH, BUT PART OF IT IS JUST TRAINING.

AND MOST DRIVERS KNOW, OH, I MEAN, ALL DRIVERS KNOW RED MEANS STOP.

AND SO THEY DON'T, THEY MAY NOT KNOW WHAT A DARK LIGHT IS.

THEY SEE THIS THING THERE, BUT THEY'RE NOT GONNA STOP IF, UNLESS IT'S, UNLESS IT'S RED.

BUT WE ARE HOPEFULLY AT THE WHATEVER.

IT'S REALLY CERTAIN.

'CAUSE I'VE BEEN TOLD IT'S REALLY CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, SO MANY TIMES IS, UH, WE'LL LIKELY HAVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, UH, POLICE AND, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GET PEOPLE ACCUSTOMED TO IT.

AND OF COURSE THERE'S AL THERE WAS ALWAYS GONNA BE PE PEOPLE PASSING BY THERE, YOU KNOW, EVEN SIX MONTHS FROM NOW FOR THE FIRST TIME.

UH, THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT EXCEPT THEY KNOW RED MEAT STOP.

IT'S GONNA BE SO MUCH SAFER RIGHT NOW IF YOU TRY AND CROSS THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT NOW, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE BULB BOUTS NARROWING THE ROAD, UH, IT'S VERY UNSAFE, I CAN TELL YOU BECAUSE I TRIED IT MYSELF.

UH, THE CARS JUST DO NOT STOP AND THE WAY THAT'S CORRECT.

WHAT'S FINISHED THIS FRIDAY? IF I COULD JUST, UM, JUST CLARIFY, UM, WHICH IS GOOD.

ALL THE WORK WILL BE DONE.

UM, WHAT WILL STILL NEED TO HAPPEN IS NEW YORK STATE WILL HAVE TO COME MAKE A SITE VISIT, UM, INSPECT ALL THE WIRING, AND, UM, THERE'S SOME FINAL COORDINATION WITH CONED.

SO, UH, THE GOOD NEWS IS THE WORK IS INDEED DONE, ALL DONE THIS FRIDAY.

UH, HOWEVER, THERE'S SOME FINAL

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HAS THE, UH, SIDEWALK SLOPE BEEN FIXED? UM, THE SIDEWALK SLOPE IS, IS LOOKING GOOD.

THERE'S ONE, UM, MINOR EDIT THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AT ONE OF THE, UM, DROP CURVES, OKAY.

THAT WILL OCCUR, UH, IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

AND WE MUST, WE MUST POINT OUT THAT THERE'S BEEN, UH, TR THIS HAS BEEN AN, AN UNBELIEVABLE TEAM EFFORT.

AND GAR DUQUE AND THE COMMISSIONER OF, UH, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING HAS BEEN REALLY TERRIFIC IN SHEPHERDING THIS, THIS THROUGH.

UH, BUT THE PARKING AUTHORITY HAS BEEN VERY HELPFUL AND COOPERATIVE.

WE HAD TO RECEIVE, UH, PERMISSION FROM THEM 'CAUSE WE HAD TO TAKE A PARKING SPOT, UH, AND WE RELOCATED THE BUS STOP, A COUNTY BUS.

SO WE HAD TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE COUNTY, OBVIOUSLY WE HAD TO GET PERMISSION FROM THE STATE.

AND IT WAS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF EVERYBODY WORKING TOWARDS THE END GOAL OF MAKING THAT CROSSWALK, UH, SAFE.

AND EVERYBODY WORKING TOGETHER THROUGH THE PANDEMIC WORK ON THIS CONTINUED ALL THROUGHOUT.

MOST OF THE WORK THAT WAS DONE IS ACTUALLY UNDERGROUND THAT YOU DON'T SEE.

SO IT WAS A, A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT, UH, ENDEAVOR, BUT IT'LL CERTAINLY MAKE THAT, AND IT MAY BE A, IT MAY BE AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER AREAS IN OTHER INTERSECTIONS.

UM, THIS IS THE FIRST AND MAYBE NOT THE LAST.

YOU KNOW, I, I, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.

I THINK IT'S A, A FANTASTIC, UH, YOU KNOW, SAFETY INITIATIVE.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD TOO MANY PEDESTRIAN ACCIDENTS OVER THE YEARS AND, AND GREENBURG AND, UH, TOO MANY FATALITIES, UM, YOU KNOW, AROUND TOWN.

AND I THINK THAT THIS WILL HOPEFULLY, UM, REDUCE SERIOUS INJURIES AND PREVENT, UH, FATALITIES.

AND, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, WAS BICYCLING THE AREA YESTERDAY AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, JUST EXCITING.

BUT IT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER CROSSWALKS WHERE AREAS WHERE THERE'S NO CROSSWALKS.

TO ME, THE MOST DANGEROUS, UM, LOCATION TO CROSS IS, UM, OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD IN THE BRONX OR PARKWAY.

WE DESPERATELY NEED A CROSSWALK RIGHT NOW.

THE COUNT THEY CLOSED, UM, UH, CEMETERY ROAD, UH, WHICH IS THE AREA NEAR THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I WAS BIKING TO WORK YESTERDAY, AND THERE WAS, BECAUSE THERE WAS NO CROSSWALK AND BECAUSE THE ROAD WAS CLOSED, IT WAS A THRILL, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SAFE.

UH, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T FEEL THAT MY LIFE WAS IN DANGER CROSSING.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I'M, I REALLY BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT THE TOWN, UM, AS ONE OF OUR NEXT SAFETY INITIATIVES SHOULD WORK REALLY HARD TO PUT A SIDEWALK FROM DUAL, UH, ROAD DUAL, UH, ROAD.

AND, UM, WE'RE NEAR WHERE WINDOVER, UH, WOODS IS, UM, TO THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY.

AND THEN GET THE COUNTY TO, UM, UH, DO A, A CROSSWALK, A SAFE CROSSWALK.

UM, SO PEOPLE COULD CROSS OVER FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS IF THEY'RE HEADING TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE, UH, THE BIKE PATH.

UM, BUT AGAIN, YESTERDAY I SAW A COUPLE PEOPLE CROSSING THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY.

UM, THEY WERE WALKING WHILE I WAS BICYCLING, BUT THEY WERE WALKING.

YEAH, IT IS SO DANGEROUS.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE AN ACCIDENT IF THERE'S NO CROSSWALK THERE.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA LOBBY REALLY, YOU KNOW, REALLY HARD FOR THIS.

UM, UH, YOU KNOW, NEXT, UH, WE'RE GONNA, UM, HOLD OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS.

UH, SOMEBODY REMINDED ME THAT, UM, WE SHOULD, UM, ASK RESIDENTS TO, UM, PEOPLE WHO SPEAK TO IDENTIFY THIS SECTION OF TOWN, OR IF THEY LIVE OUTSIDE THE TOWN, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, SAY I LIVE IN HARTSDALE OR I LIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, IN, IN A NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO THIS WAY IT WILL MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE COMMENTS ARE COMING FROM.

SO, UM, THE FIRST, UH, HEARING, WELL, I'M SORRY, LET'S SEE.

WE HAVE THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS, UM,

[ To consider an application by the Town Building Inspector for an order from the Town Board to remove unsafe structures located at 22 Tomahawk Drive at the property owner’s expense]

OH, OKAY.

22 TO CONSIDER, TO CONSIDER AN APPLICATION BY THE TOWN BUILDING INSPECTOR FOR AN ORDER FROM THE TOWN BOARD TO REMOVE UNSAFE STRUCTURES LOCATED AT 22 TOMAHAWK DRIVE AT THE PROPERTY OWNER'S EXPENSE.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN UP THAT HEARING.

UM, LIZ IS COMING IN.

GOOD EVENING, LIZ.

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GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY.

YOUR, YOUR AUDIO'S A BIT LOW.

IS THAT BETTER? YEAH, IT'S A BIT BETTER.

SHE'S HERE.

SO, IN, IN REGARDS TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THE TOWN HAS TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF, OF TOWN CODE THREE 40 IN ORDER TO REMOVE DANGEROUS OR UNSAFE CONDITIONS AT A PROPERTY.

UM, LIZ, CAN YOU PLEASE GO THROUGH, UH, THE BACKSTORY OF THIS PROPERTY AND ANY NOTICES AND ANY, UH, INTERACTIONS WE'VE HAD WITH THE PROPERTY, JUST TO PRESENT IT ON THE RECORD? SURE.

SO THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN A SUBJECT OF NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAINTS SINCE EARLY, ACTUALLY, 2019.

THE HOMEOWNERS STARTED WORK WITHOUT A PERMIT AND ENDED UP DEMOLISHING THE MAJORITY OF THE HOME.

THEY SINCE WALKED AWAY, UM, AND HAD ABANDONED THE PROPERTY ALTOGETHER.

WE ISSUED THEM NOTICES OF VIOLATION, UM, CEASE OCCUPANCY, STOP WORK ORDERS, UM, TO NO AVAIL.

WE'VE ISSUED THEM SUMMONSES TO APPEAR BEFORE COURT.

THEY HAVE, UM, APPEARED INITIALLY BEFORE COURT.

UM, AND SINCE THEN THEY'VE BEEN UNRESPONSIVE.

WE POSTED NOTICES ON THE BUILDING.

UH, WE SENT NOTICES OF THE UNSAFE COMMIS, UH, CONDITION AND THE DEMAND TO REMOVE TO THE CURRENT OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND HAD NO RESPONSE.

WE SAW IT, UM, BECAUSE OF THE UNSAFE CONDITIONS, WE SOUGHT THE, UM, TOWN TO TAKE DOWN THE BUILDING.

UM, WE HAD A RECENT NEIGHBOR COMPLAINT THAT PROMPTED THIS, UM, THAT KIDS WERE INSIDE THE BUILDING, UM, WHICH IS EXTREMELY UNSAFE.

AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURES.

THERE IS A MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY HAS NO FLOOR, THERE'S NO ROOF.

IT'S ONLY BEING HELD UP BY AN I-BEAM.

UH, THERE, THERE'S NO FENCING AROUND THE PROPERTY.

SO KIDS OR ANYBODY CAN ACTUALLY WALK ONTO THE PROPERTY AND FALL INTO THE FOUNDATION.

YEAH, SO IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S AN UNSAFE CONDITION.

LIZ, PLEASE, JUST FOR A MOMENT, UH, GARRETT, CAN YOU GO TO THE AGENDA AND PULL UP THE PICTURES THAT ARE, THAT ARE POSTED WITH THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA? YES, I'LL GET THAT RIGHT NOW.

AND WHILE GARRETT'S BRINGING THAT UP, I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT IN, IN SEPTEMBER OF 2022, WE POSTED NOTICE ON THE SITE AND ALSO SERVE THE PROPERTY OWNER SAYING THAT WE WERE EXPECTING A FENCE TO IMMEDIATELY BE PUT AROUND THE AREA.

AND FOR THAT UNSAFE CONDITIONS TO BE REMOVED IMMEDIATELY.

A LOT OF TIME HAS PASSED SINCE THEN.

THERE'S BEEN CLEAR NOTICE, THERE'S BEEN CLEAR OPPORTUNITY, AND IT'S STILL CONTINUES TO REMAIN UNSAFE.

AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, PURSUANT TO OUR TOWN CODE THREE 40, SINCE THE SERVICE AND NOTICE WAS PROPERLY DONE, A FILING WITH THE WESTCHESTER CLERK WAS PROPERLY DONE AS WELL.

THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMOVE THE, UM, CONDITIONS THEMSELVES.

AT THIS POINT.

WAS DEFENSE EVER ERECTED? NO.

AND I ALSO POSTED, UH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I MYSELF POSTED THE NOTICE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING, BOTH ON THE SITE AND AT THE MAILBOX.

LIZ, WHEN WERE THESE PHOTOS TAKEN? THEY WERE TAKEN WHEN I WAS OUT AT THE SITE, UH, APPROXIMATELY TWO MONTHS AGO.

SO WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK ON THIS? UH, JUST BEFORE YOU DO, UH, JUST SO IT'S CLEAR, UH, LIZ IS ELIZABETH GARRITY, UH, WHO IS THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR, AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS DETERMINED THAT THIS BUILDING HAS, IS UNSAL IS NOT SALVAGEABLE, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

WHICH I THINK THE PICTURES CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE.

YEAH, THAT'S ALLOWED TO, SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEAK.

YOU CAN COME UP.

COULD YOU COME UP, COME UP SPEAKING TO THE MICROPHONE? YEAH.

COME UP AND YOU SHOULD JUST IDENTIFY WHO YOU ARE AND, YOU KNOW, LIKE JUST THE LOCATION.

AND FOR THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND ALL FURTHER PUBLIC HEARINGS TONIGHT, EVERYONE HAS FIVE MINUTES.

THERE ARE CLOCKS ON BOTH SIDES, AND THE CLOCK STARTS WHEN YOU START SPEAKING.

AND WE EXPERIENCING, YOU KNOW, SEEING COYOTES, DEERS, DEER'S, FATHER COYOTES.

UH, GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

UH, ACTUALLY, I'M, UH, LIVE NEXT DOOR AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN EMAILING, UH, SUPERVISOR AND I HAVE TWO KIDS,

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SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S SAFE FOR MY KIDS TO BE OUTSIDE IN THE, OUT, YOU KNOW, LATE AFTERNOON, ESPECIALLY NOW IN THE SUMMER.

SO, I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S BEEN, WHAT, FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS NOW, SINCE, YOU KNOW, THAT PROBABLY BEEN ABANDONED.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO CLEAN UP, YOU KNOW, AS MUCH AS I CAN, BUT, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T KEEP UP.

IT'S A, IT'S A BIG LAND AND I HAVE MY OWN, YOU KNOW, TO TAKE CARE OF.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU SUPPORT THIS ACTION? YES.

AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS TO CLEAN.

COULD I ASK LIZ, UH, AFTER THE TOWN, UM, BOARD WOULD APPROVE THIS, UH, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE, UM, FOR, UH, THE, THE REMOVAL TO TAKE PLACE? WELL, IT HAS TO GO FOR AN R F P, AND JOE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT HAS TO GO OUT TO BID.

ONCE THAT HAPPENS, THE, UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH TO DO TO TAKE IT DOWN, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PICTURE.

SO IT SHOULD BE A RATHER QUICK REMOVAL.

UM, IN THE IMMEDIATE, I THINK THE TOWN SHOULD TAKE ACTION TO SECURE THE SITE AND JUST PUT A FENCE AROUND IT, UM, IN THE INTERIM WHILE THE R F P IS BEING PLACED JUST TO PROTECT IT FROM FURTHER ENTRY AND GOD FORBID, SOMEBODY GETTING HURT.

SO, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? UM, THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, WELL, JUST, JUST, UH, WE WANNA BE VERY CLEAR THAT ANY WORK THAT WE DO ON THIS PROPERTY, TAKING IT DOWN OR DO ASBESTOS ABATEMENT OR FILLING IN THE, UH, THE REMAINS FROM THE, FROM THE FOUNDATION IS ALL DONE AT THE PROPERTY OWNER'S EXPENSE, NOT THE TAXPAYERS.

COULD, CAN I ASK, UH, THE BOARD QUESTION, SINCE THE, THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE, NORMALLY, UH, WE DON'T VOTE ON THE SAME NIGHT AS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS, UM, YOU AS THE HEARING.

BUT I'M WONDERING IF JUST TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS, IF WE COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, APPROVE THE, YOU KNOW, CLOSE THE HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST TONIGHT, OR IN THE ALTERNATIVE, UH, DO YOU KNOW, A SPECIAL MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK? I MEAN, I'D PREFER DOING IT SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, BECAUSE IF IT'S DANGEROUS NOW, IT'S GONNA BE EVEN MORE DANGEROUS, UH, YOU KNOW, TOMORROW AND NEXT WEEK.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT.

WE, WE ARE ALREADY SCHEDULING A, UH, SPECIAL MEETING FOR NEXT TUESDAY.

SO AS LONG AS THE TOWN ATTORNEY IS FINE WITH THAT, WE ARE, WE ARE TAKING A VERY SERIOUS ACCIDENT, UH, UM, ACTION AGAINST A PROPERTY OWNER.

WE DON'T DO THIS LIGHTLY.

UH, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA BE TAKEN DOWN, YOU KNOW, A DWELL, UH, WHAT, WHAT USED TO BE A DWELLING ON SOMEBODY'S PROPERTY.

UH, SO I'D RATHER NOT DEVIATE FROM WHATEVER OUR PRACTICE HAS BEEN SO THAT WE DON'T GET INTO A LITIGATION OVER WHAT SEEMS TO BE A VERY OBVIOUS SITUATION THAT THE BUILDING HAS TO COME DOWN.

BUT I'LL LEAVE THAT TO OUR TOWN ATTORNEY.

AND ALSO, COULD WE PUT THE FENCE UP LIKE IMMEDIATELY THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WHICH WAS THE RECOMMENDATION.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE ON IT TODAY AND WE'RE DOING IT NEXT WEEK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD GET THE FENCE UP, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, EVEN BE, ORDER THE FENCE TOMORROW IN, IN TERMS OF THE VOTE.

I WOULD SUGGEST IF YOU'RE CLOSING THE RECORD TONIGHT, UH, EXCUSE ME, CLOSING THE HEARING TONIGHT, TO KEEP THE RECORD OPEN FOR FIVE DAYS AND THEN SCHEDULE A VOTE FOR TUESDAY AT THE SPECIAL WORK SESSION AND FENCE.

I, I WOULD LEAVE THAT AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR.

UM, IF THEY, IF THE DEPARTMENT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD ON THAT.

NOW THEY COULD DO THAT.

THE, SO LIZ, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO THEN ORDER THE, THE FENCE TO GO UP, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, YEAH.

I, I COULD COORDINATE WITH, UM, COMMISSIONER D P W AND SEE IF WE CAN ARRANGE SOMETHING.

PERFECT.

SO I'LL MOVE THAT WE, UH, CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN, YOU SAID FOR FIVE, FIVE DAYS? YEAH, FIVE, FIVE DAYS.

WHY DON'T WE SAY MONDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK, MONDAY AT FIVE O'CLOCK, AND WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO VOTE ON THIS ON TUESDAY.

TO CONSIDER THE PROPOSED, UM, TOWN OF GREENBURG 2023, RECOMMENDED CAPITAL BUDGET AND TWO 2024 2025 CAPITAL PLAN.

THIS WAY THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY.

OKAY, FINE.

UM, NEXT, UM,

[ To consider the Proposed Town of Greenburgh’s 2023 Recommended Capital Budget and 2024-2025 Capital Plan]

ROBERTA AND ROBERTA, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, UH, WE, WE DO NOT INTEND TO CLOSE THE HEARING TONIGHT.

WE WILL BE CONTINUING THIS HEARING AT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR THE MIC.

WE'LL CLOSE IT TOO.

EXCUSE ME.

IS THAT BETTER POLL? MOVED TO OPEN, BUT NO.

ONE SECOND.

OKAY, WE'RE READY.

CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES.

CAPITAL BUDGET FOR YOU TO CONSIDER TONIGHT.

GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE TOWN, TOWN BOARD MEMBERS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

I PRESENT TO YOU THE RECOMMENDED

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THE BUDGET INCLUDES A THREE-YEAR PLAN FOR CAPITAL INVESTMENT.

THE MAJORITY OF THE INVESTMENT DECISIONS PROPOSED WITHIN THIS BUDGET ARE A COMMITMENT TO ADDRESSING INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS.

THE BUDGET RECOMMENDS FUNDING OF $19,907,944 WITH THE MAJORITY 12,781,000 GOING TO THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR ROADS, INFRASTRUCTURE, AND DRAINAGE PROJECTS, AS WELL AS 3 MILLION 783 500 PROPOSED FOR IMPORTANT WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS.

PLEASE NOTE THAT THE WATER DISTRICT PAYS FOR THE FUNDING THROUGH THE WATER RATES RATHER THAN THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

I'D LIKE TO THANK PAUL FINER AND THE BOARD FOR THEIR HARD WORK AND THEIR GUIDANCE IN THE PREPARATION OF THIS BUDGET.

IN ADDITION, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND THE EMPLOYEES OF THE TOWN FOR THEIR COOPERATION IN MEETING THE NEEDS OF THE TOWN.

THANK YOU AGAIN.

THE REALITY IS, I DON'T BELIEVE ANYTHING I SEE AND I HAVE CAUSE TO DO.

SO WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET? I HAVE NO REQUEST.

OH, PAM, OF COURSE, SIMMONS.

OKAY, ANYONE ELSE? IN APRIL, 2022, THIS TOWN BOARD VOTED FOR AND APPROVED THE CAPITAL BUDGET OF $19,748.

AND GENERALLY, AS IS TRUE FOR CAPITAL ITEMS, WHICH ARE LONG LASTING BECAUSE THEY HAVE A LONGER USEFUL LIFE, THEY ARE BONDED TO DATE.

NOT ONE OF THE ITEMS IN THAT 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET HAS BEEN BONDED.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2023 CAPITAL BUDGET, AND YOU LOOK AT THE ITEMS IN IT, YOU SEE THE 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET APPROVED THAT WOULD GIVE RESIDENTS OF THIS TOWN THE IMPRESSION THAT ALL THESE LINE ITEMS THAT YOU SEE FOR 2022 EXIST WHEN IN FACT THEY DON'T.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE NOT ONLY IS THE TOWN TAKING CARE OF PROBLEMS IN 2022, IN 2023, THEY HAVE A WHOLE NEW SET OF NEEDS.

HOW DO WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO THOSE? EITHER IF YOU ADD 2022 TO 2023, YOU HAVE ALMOST $40 MILLION TO BE BONDED.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT EFFECT WILL BE ON YOUR TAXES? SO THE QUESTION REALLY IS, AND BY THE WAY, ROBERTA, YOU JUST SAID THE 2023 CAPITAL BUDGET WAS $19,907 900 3934.

IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET BOOKLET, IT SAYS 19,899.

9 44.

IT'S KIND OF TROUBLESOME WHY WE HAVEN'T DONE ANY OF THESE THINGS.

MR. FONDER, UH, FINER IS VERY PROUD OF THE BOND RATING AAA IN 2021 IN MARCH.

WELL, THE ONLY TIME YOU GET A BOND RATING IS WHEN YOU HAVE BONDS TO SELL AND YOU WANT INVESTORS TO BUY THEM.

THEREFORE, YOU GO AND PAY A BOND RATING AGENCY TO EVALUATE YOUR FINANCIAL POSITION.

AND LET'S SAY IT WAS AAA, FINE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE AAA BOND RATING TODAY.

IN FACT, WE DON'T HAVE ANY BOND RATING TODAY BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE IT UNTIL ITEMS ARE ACTUALLY BEING SOLD AS BOND TO INVESTORS.

SO IF WE DON'T BOND ANYTHING, MR. FINER CAN CONTINUE TO SAY WE HAVE AAA BOND RATING.

NOW, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO THE PEOPLE? I AM NOT REALLY QUESTIONING THE LIE ITEMS OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

I'M QUESTIONING THE INTENTIONS OF THIS TOWN BOARD.

WHAT DID IT MEAN WHEN THEY PASSED THE 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET? IF THEY DIDN'T GO AHEAD AND DO IT? DOESN'T THAT TROUBLE ANYONE? DOESN'T IT TROUBLE ON THE TOWN BOARD? THIS IS A TOWN BOARD, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WORRIES ABOUT PEOPLE LIKE GEORGE SANTOS WHO WOULD BE RIGHT AT HOME SEATED UP THERE.

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SO, FURTHERMORE, THIS IS PUBLIC HEARING.

AS OF THIS MORNING.

IF YOU WENT TO THE TOWN'S WEBSITE, YOU DID NOT SEE A LINK TO THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

THAT'S KIND OF UNUSUAL.

IF YOU WANT FIND THE CAPITAL BUDGET, YOU HAVE TO BE ON MR. FINE'S NEWS AND TOWN BOARD REPORTS LIST THE FORMER GB LIST, AND THERE'S A LINK WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT THE BUDGET.

BUT GOLLY, DON'T YOU THINK THE CAPITAL BUDGET SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE SEEN PROMINENTLY ON THE TOWN WEBSITE? THE OPERATING BUDGET FOR 2023 IS RIGHT THERE ON THE HOMEPAGE.

I DON'T KNOW, I HAVEN'T LOOKED SINCE 11 O'CLOCK THIS MORNING.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE NOW, BUT CERTAINLY RELEASING IT FOR A WIDER PUBLIC THAT DOESN'T RECEIVE THESE NEWS IN TOWN BOARD REPORTS, I WOULD EXPECT IT TO BE THERE EARLIER THAN THE DAY BEFORE.

AND AT THE WORK SESSION TWO WEEKS AGO, MR. SHEEHAN WANTED TO GET A FEW, YOU KNOW, RUBS IN AT MR. FINER.

SO HE SAID, WHY ARE YOU RELEASING IT TO THE PUBLIC AND NOT TO US, THE TOWN BOARD TO READ.

BEFORE YESTERDAY, WE HAD A WORK SESSION ON THE AGENDA.

THERE WAS NO DISCUSSION OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET.

ANYBODY ELSE CAN PLEASE COME? WE GOTTA SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.

AND IF YOU COULD IDENTIFY YOUR, WHERE YOU LIVE IN THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

MY NAME IS A STERN.

I LIVE AT 94 WAYSIDE DRIVE GREENBURG, NEW YORK.

I GOT ONE QUESTION.

HOW ARE THEY GONNA FUND THIS CAPITAL BUDGET? IS IT FROM TAXPAYERS MONEY OR FROM BONDS? BONDS ARE TAXPAYER MONEY.

YOU'RE GONNA SELL BONDS, RIGHT? OKAY, WELL WHAT ABOUT WHERE, WHERE, WHERE DOES THE TAXES GO? YOU TAX EVERYBODY'S HOME AND BUSINESSES? UH, IT WILL BE OBVIOUSLY WE, EVERY, EVERY INFRASTRUCTURE COST, UH, THE TAXPAYERS HAVE TO PAY.

UM, WE WERE SUCCESSFUL, UH, THIS YEAR IN REDUCING THE TAX RATE BY 6% AND WE HAVEN'T INCREASED, UM, THE TAX RATE IN FOUR YEARS.

UH, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN.

SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING OUR BEST TO KEEP TAXES AS LOW, AS LOW AS POSSIBLE, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE.

I KNOW MY TAXES WENT UP $5,000.

I SEEN ON ONE 19 ALL THESE, ALL THESE DEALERSHIPS COMING IN, AREN'T THEY PAYING TAXES? YEAH, THEY'RE PAYING TAXES.

SO HOW COME, HOW COME YOU HAD TO RAISE UP MY EVERYBODY'S TAXES? YOUR TOWN TAXES? YES.

NOT YOUR SCHOOL TAXES.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOUR TOWN TAXES.

THE TOWN TAXES DID NOT GO UP THIS YEAR.

IT WENT DOWN, IT WENT DOWN 6% THIS YEAR.

THE TAX RATE, RIGHT? UH, ROBERTA AND LAST YEAR, I THINK THERE WAS ALSO, IN 2021, THERE WAS A SLIGHT TAX RATE DECREASE AS WELL.

AND THE, FOR FOUR YEARS, WE HAVEN'T RA INCREASED THE TAX RATES IN THE TOWN, BUT THE SCHOOL TAXES WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.

SO MOST OF YOUR TAXES ARE GOING TO THE SCHOOLS, NOT THE TOWN.

BUT YOU DID RAISE THE ASSESSMENT ON IT.

SO IT'S RAISING, BASICALLY RAISING THE TAXES ON IT IF YOU RAISE THE ASSESSMENT.

AM I CORRECT? THAT'S NOT NECESS.

WELL, WE'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SPEAKING WHILE YOU'RE SPEAKING.

I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT.

IF YOU COULD, IF YOU COULD JUST PUT OUT YOUR QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL ANSWER THEM.

MY QUESTION IS, YOU'RE RAISING, YOU'RE RAISING, YOU'RE RAISING THE ASSESSMENT ON HOUSES, SO THAT'S LIKE RAISING THE TAXES.

WELL, WE ARE NOT GONNA INTERRUPT, BUT AFTER YOU SIT DOWN, THEN WE CAN ANSWER.

OKAY, WELL STAY THERE.

NOT MUCH.

UH, UNFORTUNATELY THE TOWN BILLS FOR ALL THE OTHER TAXING ENTITIES.

WE, WE, WE, WHEN DID YOU MAKE THE RULES, HAL? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE RULES ARE.

I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHERE, WHERE OUR MONEY'S GOING AND HOW MUCH IS IT, UH, FRANCIS, YOU, SO IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY FOLLOW THAT IF YOUR ASSESSMENT GOES UP, YOUR TAXES GO UP.

IF, IF EVERY COUPLE OF YOU COULD BRING IN YOUR, IN YOUR BRING IN YOUR TAX BILL, OR WE COULD LOOK IT UP, YOU CAN LOOK IT UP BECAUSE,

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SO YOU GET A BILL FROM THE TOWN FOR YOUR TAXES, BUT THE TOWN TAX RATE DID NOT GO UP.

OTHER, OTHER, YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.

BUT, BUT THEY, THEY RAISED THE VALUATION OF THE PROPERTIES AND THAT THAT RAISES THE TAX, THE TOWN TAX.

SO, SO WHAT I'M EXPLAINING TO YOU IS IF EVERYONE'S EVALUATION GOES UP BY 10%, YES, YOU PAY NO MORE IN TAXES.

BUT WE, WE WENT UP MORE THAN 10%.

WHAT'S THAT? OKAY, SO IF EVERYBODY'S TAXES, MY MORE THAN 10%.

IF EVERYBODY'S ASSESSMENT GOES UP 50%, YOU PAY NO MORE IN TAXES.

I DON'T BELIEVE YOU.

WELL JUST DO THE MATH.

IT'S, IT'S HOW THE PIE, I DIDN'T HAVE, IT'S THE HOW IT'S MY TAXES WENT UP FROM 12,000 TO 14,000.

RIGHT? WE, WHY DON'T YOU BRING IN YOUR BILL AS, AS RIGHT AS, UM, COUNCILMAN MACHINE.

SO, AND NOT ONLY THAT, WE'D BE HAPPY TO, I ONLY FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS, THIS MEETING FROM A GENTLEMAN OVER THERE.

OKAY? HOW COME? HOW COME NOBODY NOTIFIES YOU ANYMORE? USED TO BE, THEY USED TO PUT IT ON, ON THE INTERNET.

I DID.

IT WAS NOT IT.

IT'S, NO, WE, WE, WE, UH, POSTED THIS ON, UH, THE TOWN WEBSITE, UH, UH, THE, THE PUBLIC HEARING WE ALWAYS DO.

ALRIGHT, WELL, LIKE I SAY, OKAY, SO, OH, I'M GONNA BRING THE NEXT, WHEN'S THE NEXT HEARING? IN TWO WEEKS? IN TWO WEEKS.

DO YOU WANT MY CARD? SO YOU COULD SEND IT TO THIS EMAIL AS WELL.

THAT'S MY CONTACT INFORMATION.

I, I JUST WANNA MENTION ALSO BECAUSE I'VE HAD, I'VE HAD, UH, CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ASSESSOR AND AFTER EVERY YEAR, UH, SHE AND HER OFFICE, UH, EVALUATES HOW MUCH EACH HOUSE IS WORTH.

THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN THE TOWN WHOSE ASSESSMENTS GO UP.

THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE IN THE TOWN WHOSE ASSESSMENTS HAVE GONE DOWN.

SO YOU MAY HAVE HAD A, UH, YOU KNOW, A TAX INCREASE FOR, THERE MAY BE SOMEBODY SITTING, UM, A ROW BEHIND YOU, OR TWO ROWS OR THREE ROWS BEHIND YOU RIGHT NOW WHO MIGHT HAVE SEEN THE OPPOSITE.

UM, SO YOU, SO AGAIN, SOME GOES UP, SO SOME GOES DOWN AND THE, THE WHOLE POINT OF THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE IS TO TRY CREATING FAIRNESS AND BASING THE TAXES ON THE VALUE OF A HOME, VALUE OF A HOME AT, AT, AT THE, YOU KNOW, PRO AT THE TIME.

YOU KNOW, THE ASSESSMENTS ARE ARE DONE.

BUT THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TIMES WHERE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU FEEL YOUR ASSESSMENT IS INCORRECT, YOU COULD GO TO THE ASSESSOR, YOU COULD ASK FOR AN APPOINTMENT.

IF YOU WANT TO CALL ME, I COULD, UH, HELP YOU SCHEDULE A MEETING.

I CALL, LEAVE A MESSAGE, NEVER CALL.

I, I CALL EVERYBODY BACK.

YOU RELIGIOUSLY.

BUT YOU SHOULD.

YOU COULD CALL ME.

IT'S I UP Y YESTERDAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S FOUR THREE, GET BACK.

43, I WILL CALL YOU BACK.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE WHAT, HOW THE VALUATION IS BASED.

THE VALUATION ISN'T ARBITRARY.

IT'S BASED ON MARKET VALUES AND THE, THE HOUSING MARKET IN WESTCHESTER HAS GONE UP AND THEREFORE THE, THE VALUE OF OUR HOMES HAVE GONE UP.

SO THAT IS PART OF THE EQUATION.

ALRIGHT? SO THIS IS A, AN EXCELLENT DISCUSSION FOR THIS TIME OF YEAR BECAUSE GRIEVANCE DAY IS COMING UP IN JUNE.

AND IF YOU, UH, WE DID A FULL VALUE, UH, REVALUATION, UH, IN 2016.

AND THAT'S BEEN DONE STATISTICALLY SINCE THEN.

AND WE'RE DUE TO DO ANOTHER, UH, UH, VALUATION, WHICH WE WILL BE DOING.

UH, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR BILL NOW, IT WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE ASSESSOR THINKS YOUR HOUSE CAN SELL FOR.

AND IT'S AS, IT'S AS AS CLEAR AS ANYONE COULD MAKE IT.

IF YOU'RE, IF IT SAYS 785,000 AND YOU THINK IT'S NOT WORTH THAT, WELL THEN BRING IN PROOF THAT IT'S NOT WORTH THAT AND SHE WILL WORK WITH YOU FRANKLY.

UH, YOU CAN, IF YOU WANT, UH, GET THE MAILERS FROM SO MANY PEOPLE THAT SAYS, HEY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU GIVE US 50% OF YOUR, THEIR SAVINGS THE FIRST YEAR, WE'LL HELP YOU WITH THE GRIEVANCE PERIOD.

OUR ASSESSOR IS WILLING TO DO THAT FOR NOTHING.

AND SO, I'M SORRY IT'S NOT A BACK AND FORTH, UH, STILL ONE WAY, RIGHT? IT WAS ONE WAY FOR FIVE MINUTES AND NOW THE NEXT PERSON SHOULD BE SPEAKING.

BUT I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU.

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT YOUR HOUSE IS WORTH WHAT IT SAYS ON YOUR BILL, THERE'S A PROCESS.

NOW'S THE TIME TO KICK IN THAT PROCESS BECAUSE

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AFTER YOU GET PAST THE DATE IN JUNE, YOU HAVE TO WAIT A WHOLE YEAR.

SO THIS IS A PERFECT TIME FOR ANYONE WHO'S UNHAPPY WITH THEIR ASSESSMENT AND THEY THINK THAT THEY CAN'T SELL IT FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, THEN SHOW COMPARATIVE SALES IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHATEVER.

BUT THE ASSESSOR IS REALLY GOOD, AND SHE'S PROVEN THIS OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND HER STAFF AT LOOKING UP VERY QUICKLY ON HER COMPUTER COMPARATIVE SALES AND TELL YOU HOW YOUR ASSESSMENT WAS DETERMINED.

BUT I CAN ASSURE YOU THAT IF EVERYONE'S ASSESSMENT GOES UP BY A HUNDRED PERCENT, YOUR TAXES DON'T GO UP.

I KNOW IT SOUNDS WEIRD, BUT IT'S HOW THE PIE GETS THAT CUT UP.

AND IF EVERYBODY GOES UP THE SAME AMOUNT NOW, IT MAY BE YOUR HOUSE WENT UP MORE THAN OTHER PEOPLE FOR WHATEVER REASON, AND THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE ASSESSOR.

AND THE ASSESSOR IS EXTREMELY OPEN AND WILLING TO DISCUSS IT AND TELL YOU WHY YOUR ASSESSMENT IS WHAT IT IS.

BUT I HAVE A FEELING THAT ONCE WE TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR BILL, IT'S NOT THE TOWN TAX IS GIVING YOU THE BIG IMPACT.

BUT WHAT, AND I JUST WANNA MENTION ONE THING JUST ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, RETURNING PHONE CALLS.

NOT ALL.

I, EVERY NIGHT BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP, NOT ONLY DO I RETURN CALLS WHEN I HAVE A VOICEMAIL, BUT I LOOK AND SEE ALL THE CALLS THAT CAME ON MY PHONE, EVEN IF PEOPLE DIDN'T LEAVE A MESSAGE.

AND USUALLY, UH, IT, IT'S RED AND IT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY CALLED ME AND I DIDN'T PICK UP.

AND SO I CALL EVERYBODY BACK, EVEN IF THEY DIDN'T LEAVE A MESSAGE.

UH, I HAVE A, A MANIA THAT I HAVE TO RETURN EVERY CALL AND I ALWAYS, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

WE NEED TO MOVE ON IN THE FUTURE.

CALL ME AND I'LL MAKE SURE I GET BACK TO YOU QUICKLY.

WHO'S NEXT? IS ANYONE ELSE? I I JUST WANNA SAY JUST FOR THE GRIEVANCE PERIOD, IT'S A VERY CONCENTRATED SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND IF YOU MISS THAT, YOU HAVE TO WAIT TILL THE FOLLOWING YEAR FOR IF, IF YOU STILL HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR, YOUR TAXES, YOU CAN CHECK ON THE WEBSITE FOR THOSE DATES.

ANYBODY ELSE? MARI, YOU WANT TO SPEAK? OKAY.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE THIS TO THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING.

DOES ANYONE WANNA RESPOND TO MY COMMENTS? SO I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA MOVE THAT, UH, WE KEEP THE, UH, RECORD OPEN THE HEARING OPEN AND CONTINUE IT AT THE NEXT DOWN BOARD MEETING.

MAY 24TH MEETING.

NOT THE SPECIAL, NOT THE, YEAH, THAT'S, WE DON'T COUNT THAT.

YEAH, THE REGULAR MEETING.

ALL FAVOR? NO, SIR.

[ To consider the adoption of a local law recommended by the Conservation Advisory Council creating a new chapter in the Code of the Town of Greenburgh, Chapter 374, entitled “Leaf Blowers” (This hearing will also be continued at the 5/24/2023 meeting.)]

THERESA TORY HARSDALE, NEW YORK.

NEXT, UH, TO CONSIDER THE ADOPTION OF A LOCAL LAW RECOMMENDED BY THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY CA COUNCIL, CREATING A NEW CHAPTER IN THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, CHAPTER 3 74 ENTITLED LEAD BLOWERS.

AND TERRY, YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.

THIS GOOD? YES, YES, YES.

THANKS.

YOU'RE AN EXPERT TOO MANY TIMES HERE FOR THE SAME TOPIC.

AND I WENT BACK AS FAR AS 2007, BUT I KNOW THERE'S ONE THAT EVEN GOES BACK FURTHER THAN THAT.

I'M TERESA TORI, THE CHAIRPERSON OF THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL.

THE C A C.

THE C A C IS ESTABLISHED IN TOWN CODE CHAPTER FIVE 20.

ONE OF THE CA'S DUTIES IS, AND THIS IS A QUOTE, ADVISE THE TOWN BOARD, THE WHOLE SERIES THAT ONE OF THE LAST ONES IS IN THE CASE OF HUMAN ACTIVITY AND DEVELOPMENTS WITH REGARD TO ANY MAJOR THREATS POSED TO ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY SO AS TO ENHANCE THE ENVIRONMENT ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS DURING THE LAST ALMOST 20 YEARS WHEN THE SPRING COMES WITH THE SOUND OF LEAF BLOWERS, THE C A C HAS BEEN ASKED BY THE TOWN BOARD TO RESEARCH THE IMPACT OF LEAF BLOWERS.

THAT RESEARCH HAS AL ALWAYS RESULTED EACH TIME IN THE C A C MAKING A RECOMMENDATION TO TRY TO LIMIT THE USE OF LEAF BLOWERS.

BECAUSE OF THE SERIOUS HEALTH IMPACTS OF PARTICULATE MATTER, THEY BLOW INTO THE AIR, THE DEGRADATION OF THE SOIL AND THE ANNOYANCE TO SOME OF THE NOISE.

LATER, C A C MEMBERS WILL PROVIDE DETAILED INFORMATION SUPPORTING THESE CONCERNS.

BEFORE I PROVIDE A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED LAW, I WOULD ASK YOU TO CONSIDER A FEW THINGS.

THE RESEARCH THE C A C HAS DONE IS EXTENSIVE AND THE QUALITY INCLUDES SOURCES SUCH AS THE E P A.

THE C A C HAS ALWAYS IN ITS RECOMMENDATIONS PLACED HEALTH CONCERNS FIRST IN ITS RECOMMENDATIONS.

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I JUST COULDN'T FIND IT.

AND I WAS SORT OF SURPRISED TO SEE THAT WAS ALWAYS HOW WE STARTED OUT WAS WITH THE CONCERNS ABOUT HEALTH.

THERE WERE NO LEAF BLOWERS PRIOR TO 1985.

THE C A C HAS NEVER RECOMMENDED A COMPLETE BAN.

IT HAS RECOGNIZED THE NEED FOR THE USE OF LEAF BLOWERS DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR UNTIL A REALISTIC REPLACEMENT HAS BEEN FOUND.

ANY LAW ADOPTED MUST BE ENFORCEABLE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN A CONCERN ON SEVERAL OF THE SUGGESTIONS.

THE LAW ADDRESSES THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN ATMOSPHERIC CONDITIONS KEEP PARTICULATES SUSPENDED FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

AND WHEN PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN, ARE OUT OF DOORS, THERE IS NO REASON TO USE A LEAF BLOWER DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.

NO LEAVES ARE FALLING FOR THE FEW CLIPPINGS LEFT AT THE EDGE OF A LAWN.

A BROOM IS FASTER THAN A LEAF BLOWER.

CURRENTLY, MANY RESIDENTS DO NOT USE OR HAVE INSTRUCTED THEIR GARDENER NOT TO USE LEAF BLOWERS DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.

I PERSONALLY AM ONE OF THEM FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND IT HAS NOT CAUSED A PROBLEM.

THE LAW IS JUST A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE LAW.

AND JOE, I HOPE WHAT I DO IS SIGN, UM, ADEQUATE.

IF NOT, YOU CAN ADD TO IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

THE LORD BEING RECOMMENDED WOULD PROHIBIT THE USE OF LEAF BLOWERS FROM JUNE 15TH TO AUGUST 15TH.

THERE ARE A FEW EXCEPTIONS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND THE CASE OF A WEATHER EMERGENCY.

THE TOWN SUPERVISOR COULD, CAN SUSPEND THE LAW.

THIS WOULD BE IN CASE WE GOT SOME TROPICAL STORM.

EARLY IN, IN THE YEAR.

THE LAW WILL BE ENFORCED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION, AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT FOR THE FIRST VIOLATION, A WARNING WILL BE ISSUED WITH SUBSEQUENT VIOLATIONS.

THE FINES START AT A HUNDRED DOLLARS AN INCREASE REACHING A MAXIMUM OF 500.

THE PROPOSED LAW IS ONLY FOR THIS YEAR, FROM JUNE 15TH TO AUGUST 15TH.

AND UNLESS IT'S RENEWED, IT CEASES TO EXIST.

SO IT'S JUST ONE YEAR OF A TRIAL TO SEE HOW THIS WOULD WORK OUT.

AS A RESIDENT, IT IS MY HOPE WE ADOPT THIS LAW AND ENJOY A HEALTHY SILENT SUMMER.

CAN I JUST ASK YOU ONE QUESTION? SURE.

I, I EMAILED YOU YESTERDAY BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WHO COMMENTED, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE SAID THAT THEY AT TIMES MAY NEED TO USE A LEAF BLOWER FOR LIKE 15 MINUTES OR A HALF HOUR.

WOULD YOU SUPPORT, SO LIKE A COMPROMISE WHERE WE COULD TAKE SAY AN HOUR OR TWO HOURS EACH DAY, YOU KNOW, SAY FROM 10 TO 12, YOU KNOW, AS AN EXAMPLE SAYING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COULD USE THE LEAF BLOWERS IF THEY HAVE TO.

ON, ON, YOU KNOW, JUST ON THOSE TIMES FOR THOSE, THAT TWO MONTH EXPERIMENT.

AND THEN, UH, FOR THE REST OF THE TIME, UH, YOU WOULD HAVE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EXPERIMENT BECAUSE THIS WAY, UH, PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CLEAN UP LIKE A, A PORCH OR SOMETHING, UM, THERE'D BE TIME DURING THE DAY THAT THEY'D BE ABLE TO, UH, TO DO THAT.

I THINK THAT THERE'D BE MORE SUPPORT FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

I, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY PAUL, THAT WELL, I PREFER NOT TO HAVE THAT HAPPEN.

IF THAT HAPPENS, IT SHOULD BE ON.

CAN I CONTINUE? SINCE YOU, I WOULD SAY IF THAT IS WHAT GOES FORWARD, IT SHOULD ONLY BE FOR AN HOUR.

THERE IS NO REASON, UNLESS YOU'RE BLOWING ACREAGE TO USE, TO HAVE TO BE BLOWING A LEAF BLOWER FOR AN HOUR.

I MEAN, FOR A PORCH OR FOR A PORCH, I MEAN A PORCH SHOULD BE DONE IN 10 MINUTES.

NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT, I'M SAYING THAT WE WOULD SAY THAT, UM, THERE WOULD BE A DESIGNATED TIME FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE MORE THAN AN HOUR.

THEY WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE WOULD BE DOING FOR 10 MINUTES OR WHATEVER.

UM, BUT THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD HAVE A WINDOW OF OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THEY COULD DO IT.

AND THE REST OF THE TIME WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, NO LEAF LONG.

WELL, IF THAT'S THE WAY YOU WANT IT TO GO FORWARD, AND IT WOULD HELP US TO GET A TRIAL ON THIS, I WOULD SAY IT HA CAN'T BE MORE THAN AN HOUR.

'CAUSE ONCE YOU GET BEYOND AN HOUR, YOU'RE NO LONGER HAVING ANYTHING.

THAT'S, I MEAN, MEAN IF YOU SAY AN HOUR AND YOU PUT A FIXED TIME, LIKE, YOU KNOW, 11 TO 12, 10 TO 11, WHATEVER IT IS, THEN, BECAUSE THAT ALSO GOES TO POLICING BECAUSE ONCE YOU GET BEYOND THE ONE HOUR IT GET BACK INTO HOW DO WE POLICE IT? WHEREAS IT'S A VERY SET TIME.

I WOULD PREFER NOT TO SEE THE SET TIMES TO BE MY FEELING, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A COMPROMISE SITUATION.

WE WERE A DEMOCRACY AND, AND PEOPLE HAVE TO REMEMBER ALSO WE'RE USING LEAF BLOWERS ANOTHER IN THE OTHER 10 MINUTES.

I'M ANSWERING, I'M ANSWERING A QUESTION.

CAN, CAN I JUST QUICKLY CLARIFY THAT THE FIVE MINUTE RULE DOES NOT APPLY TO SOMEONE WHO'S PRESENTING THE LAW? IT, IT APPLIES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

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SO, SO MY, MY COMMENT WOULD BE, JOE, I'M SORRY TERESA, IT WOULD'VE BEEN HELPFUL IF YOU HAD SAID THAT INITIALLY BECAUSE I, I HAD HER ON THE CLOCK, SO I DID NOT REALIZE.

SO THAT'S WHY PEOPLE, I I I, I APOLOGIZE TO THE CONFUSION TO EVERYBODY AND I ALSO AM JUST RESPONDING TO WHAT I'M BEING ASKED, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE, OF THE FIVE MINUTES.

SO IF WE DID THAT SO LONG AS IT WAS ONLY AN HOUR, YOU CAN PICK THE TIME OF DAY.

I MEAN, I'M NOT PARTICULARLY DON'T HAVE A CONCERN THERE, BUT I THINK IT ONLY CAN BE AN HOUR BECAUSE IF YOU GO BEYOND AN HOUR, THEN YOU'RE NO LONGER HAVING A TEST OF THIS AT ALL.

AND I THINK AN HOUR GIVES PEOPLE A WINDOW TO DO WHATEVER THEY NEED TO DO.

OF COURSE, YOU'RE BASICALLY MAKING THAT WINDOW ON EVERY DAY.

SO THAT TAKES OUT OF, OUT OF IT.

DO YOU SUPPORT DOING THAT? DO I SUPPORT DOING THAT? I SUPPORT THAT.

IF IT MEANS WE CAN GET A TEST.

'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THIS TOWN TO TRY GOING WITHOUT A LEAF BLOWER IN THE SUMMER.

'CAUSE I THINK WHAT THEY'RE GONNA FIND IT ISN'T BURDENSOME AND IT DOES WORK AND IT REALLY IMPROVES THE QUALITY OF LIFE IN TERMS OF THE PARTICULATES.

THEY'RE NOT IN THE AIR WHILE CHILDREN ARE PLAYING AND JUST THE, AND FOR MANY PEOPLE THE NOISE QUALITY IS AN ISSUE.

OKAY, THANK I I THOUGHT THAT THE REASON WE WERE SETTING IT UP FOR THE TWO MONTHS IN THE MIDSUMMER WERE THAT, WAS THAT THERE WEREN'T REAL, THERE WEREN'T LEAVES TO REALLY HAVE TO BLOW.

LEAVES WEREN'T FALLING.

SO WHAT IS IT THAT THEY'D BE CLEANING UP? WELL, I'VE GOTTEN LIKE TONS OF EMAILS FROM PEOPLE AND SOME PEOPLE SAID THAT, UH, LEAVES COULD POSSIBLY, THERE COULD BE DEBRIS OR WHATEVER THAT GOES IN THE DRAINS.

SOMEBODY COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT YESTERDAY TO ME.

YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN ME LIKE A LOT OF, A LOT OF EXAMPLES AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, JULY FOR THOSE TWO MONTHS FROM JULY FOR THOSE TWO MONTHS, JULY MONTHS, THEY SAID FOR JULY.

AND THEY SAID, SO I SORT OF, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT SOMETHING THAT, UH, IF WE'RE GONNA DO AN EXPERIMENT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WORKABLE AND YOU KNOW, IF WE BASICALLY SAY IT'S ABSOLUTE, PEOPLE MAY JUST TAKE THEIR CHANCES AND VIOLATE THE, VIOLATE THE LAW, UM, ANYWAY, BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA FEEL THAT IT'S NOT GONNA REALLY BE, YOU KNOW, FORCED.

AND ON THE OTHER HAND, IF YOU HAVE SOME EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE, ARE, YOU KNOW, REASONABLE AND YOU TELL PEOPLE THAT THEY COULD USE THE LEAF BLOWERS DURING A DESIGNATED HOURS, THEN THERE MAY BE MORE COOPERATION FROM THE COMMUNITY AND, AND THE EXPERIMENT WILL HAVE A BETTER CHANCE OF WORKING, I THINK.

PAUL, YOU SAID HOURS.

SAY OUR, BECAUSE I THINK IF YOU GO BEYOND AN HOUR NO, I, I WAS JUST GIVING YEAH, I, I REALIZE THAT.

BUT I DO WANNA GO, I MEAN, I, AGAIN, I KNOW YOU GET CALLS FROM PEOPLE AND ONE OF THE THINGS IS I, ANYTIME THERE'S SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE CONTROLLING SOMETHING, YOU ALWAYS HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AGAINST IT.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT, WE HAD A BIT OF JOKING AMONG OURSELVES ON THE C A C ABOUT BRINGING AUDIO VISUAL PROPS.

AND ONE OF THE ONES I THOUGHT ABOUT BRINGING WAS A PLASTIC BAG.

DO YOU REMEMBER FOR HOW MANY YEARS THERE WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT ELIMINATING FREE PLASTIC BAGS AND ELIMINATING PLASTIC BAGS AT THE SUPERMARKET AND PEOPLE SAID, COULDN'T HAPPEN.

COULDN'T WORK.

WELL GUESS WHAT? WE FINALLY PASSED THE LAW.

WE ENDED UP PASSING IT AT THE STATE LEVEL AND IT'S WORKED.

AND, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT I AM A HOMEOWNER.

I HAVE A QUITE A BIT OF FLOWER BEDS AND GARDENING ON MY PROPERTY.

IT ISN'T ALL GRASS.

SO IT TAKES MORE MERCH MAINTENANCE.

AND I HAVE NEVER HAD THE NEED IN THE SUMMER MONTHS TO USE A BLOWER.

THERESA.

PAUL, DID YOU OPEN THE HEARING? YEAH, THE HEARING WAS OPENING.

UM, I DIDN'T HEAR WHO SECONDED? SECONDED IT.

DID ANYONE SECOND IT? I SECONDED ELLEN.

OH, ELLA DID.

YOU GOTTA SPEAK UP EVERYBODY 'CAUSE I CAN'T HEAR WHISPERS.

IS THIS STILL PART OF THE PRESENTATION OR IS THIS THE FIRST SPEAKER? OH, IS THIS WE'RE INTO SPEAKERS.

THESE WE'RE INTO SPEAKER.

ARE YOU DOING ANOTHER PRESENTATION, SIR? I AM DOING MY PRESENTATION, YES.

OH, OKAY.

BUT BUT ARE THESE MEMBERS OF THE C A C? YES.

POSITION.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

AND YOU'RE SAYING SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID? YES.

YES I AM.

OH, SO YOU DIVIDED IT UP DIVIDED.

GO AHEAD, JUDGE.

PROPERTY LOOKING AT LEAST AS GOOD AS MY NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY ARE.

TESTING IS, UH, YES.

SO, UM, GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR FINDER AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND RESIDENCE.

UH, MY NAME IS GEORGE GUNLOCK.

I, I AM A HOMEOWNER.

I LIVE ON IN THE MAINTAINER AN ACRE PLUS OF LAND, AND I AM A RESIDENT OF, UH, OF GREENBERG.

I WANT TO COMMENT TONIGHT ON MY EXPERIENCES IN MAINTAINING MY PROPERTY, UH, WITH THE ASSISTANCE OF COURSE, OF MY PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPES AND ON MY CONCLUSION AS TO WHAT EQUIPMENT IS REQUIRED TO KEEP THE

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UM, BEFORE DOING THAT, I, I DO WANT TO EXPAND ON, UH, SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UH, FROM THE FORMER SPEAKER CHAIRMAN TORY, REGARDING WHAT, WHAT SHE REPORTS ARE THE HARMFUL IMPACTS OF THAT LEAF BLOWERS HAVE ON TOPSOIL.

TOPSOIL BY, BY DEFINITION IS, IS THE TOP LAYER OF THE SOIL.

IT, IT CONTAINS THE HIGHEST CONCENTRATIONS OF, UM, OF, UH, ORGANIC MATTER AND MICROORGANISMS THAT OF ANY PART OF THE DIRT.

UH, TOPSOIL IS A PLACE WHERE, WHERE MOST OF THE EARTH'S BIOLOGICAL ACTIVITY OCCUR AND PLANTS CONCENTRATE THEIR ROOTS AND OBTAIN MOST OF THEIR NUTRIENTS FROM THE TOPSOIL.

I THINK THIS GOES WITHOUT, WITHOUT SAYING TOPSOIL IS, IS LOST OF COURSE, THROUGH EROSION, EITHER BY WIND OR BY WATER.

UH, FLOODING AND HURRICANE WINDS DESTROY TOPSOIL.

UH, TONIGHT WE'LL LOOK AT, UH, THE IMPACT OF WIND.

THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER DEFINES A HURRICANE AS A WEATHER EVENT WHERE SUSTAINED WINDS REACH A SPEED OF 75 MILES AN HOUR.

THEY ALSO TELL US THAT WHEN WIND SPEEDS REACH 157 MILES PER HOUR, SOIL IS, UH, DESICCATED.

THAT IS, THAT THERE'S NO LONGER ANY MOISTURE OR, OR ANY NUTRIENTS LEFT IN THE SOIL.

UH, IT'S VIRTUALLY RENDERED INTO A SUBSTANCE THAT'S SIMILAR TO POWDERED CONCRETE.

UM, AND THAT'S AT 75 AND 157 MPH.

NOW A HANDGUN, A HANDGUN IS GONNA FIRE A BULLET.

ON AVERAGE, THAT BULLET TRAVELS AT 136 MILES AN HOUR.

THE WIND SPEED OF AN AVERAGE SHOULDER MOUNTED LEAF BLOWER REACHES SPEEDS OF 175 MILES PER HOUR ON THE SAPPHIRE SIMPSON HURRICANE WIND SCALE THAT'S A CATEGORY FIVE HURRICANE.

SO THESE LEAF BLOWERS ARE LITERALLY FASTER THAN A SPEEDING BULLET.

THE MORE POWERFUL THAN A HURRICANE.

THEY'RE POWERFUL INSTRUMENTS GET, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE PICTURE.

BUT MY EXPERIENCE OVER THE YEARS AS A HOMEOWNER SHOWED ME THAT THE LEAFBLOWER IS, UH, REALLY UNNECESSARY.

THEY'RE USUALLY HARMFUL IN THE LONG TERM, AND AT BEST, THEY SHOULD BE USED AS AN ACCESSORY TOOL.

LEAF BLOWERS, I FOUND ARE OFTEN USED TO CLEAN UP AFTER THE LAWNMOWER.

IT, IT SEEMED UNNECESSARY AND OF COURSE, HARMFUL.

SO FOLLOWING DISCUSSIONS WITH MY LANDSCAPER AND THE, THE LAWNMOWER IS NOW EQUIPPED WITH A, A BASKET TO CATCH AND COLLECT THE CUTTINGS, WHICH I THEN COMPOST.

BUT IF YOU'RE NOT COMPOSTING THOSE SAME, THOSE SAME GRASS CUTTINGS, OF COURSE CAN BE BAGGED AND JUST BROUGHT TO THE CURB.

UM, ALTERNATIVELY, THE LAWNMOWERS, OF COURSE, CAN BE SET UP WITH MULCHING BLADES TO, UH, DELIBERATELY RETURN THE CUT GRASS TO THE LAWN.

THERE'S NO NEED FOR A HURRICANE FOR THE LAWN TO LOOK GOOD AND USING AN OLD FASHIONED RAKE.

I, I HAVE THE, UH, LEAF AND FLOWER DEBRIS FROM THE GARDENS QUICKLY RAKED ONTO THE LAWN, AND I HAVE THE MOWER CUT IT UP WITH THE GRASS.

UH, MY LAWN CARE COMPANY WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE AN ECONOMY OF OPERATIONS AS THEY NO LONGER NEED AN EXTRA ONE OR TWO PEOPLE WITH LEAF BLOWERS WALKING OVER AND COVERING THE SAME GROUND THAT THE LAWNMOWER GUY JUST DID.

THEY DID INSIST ON USING A BLOWER ON THE DRIVEWAY, NOTING IT, SWEEPING IT WITH A BROOM DUE TO ITS SIZE, THE DRIVEWAY SIZE.

AND, UH, AFTER DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW TO USE THE IDLE AND THE LOW SPEED OF THE LEAF BLOWER, UH, A COMPROMISE WAS MADE.

IN EVERY WORKING SOCIETY, PEOPLE GIVE UP RIGHTS SO THEY CAN MAINTAIN THEIR RIGHTS.

I HAVE A RIGHT TO FREE SPEECH, BUT WHEN MY ALLOTTED TIME IS UP, I GUESS IT IS, UM, I WILL, YOU KNOW, I WILL, OF COURSE, UH, YIELD SO SOMEBODY ELSE CAN EXERCISE THOSE SAME RIGHTS.

IS THAT TALK? RIGHT? YOU'RE NOT SUBJECT, YOU'RE NOT TO THE TIME, YOU'RE NOT SUBJECT TO THE TIMER BECAUSE YOU'RE MAKING A PRESENTATION ON BEHALF OF THE C I C.

BUT, BUT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE IT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN REASON BECAUSE WE, I WILL WRAP IT RIGHT UP.

WE WANNA HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, LISTEN, I, I HAVE A RIGHT TO DRIVE, BUT, BUT THAT RIGHT IS NOT BOUNDLESS.

I'LL YIELD THAT RIGHT WHEN IT COME TO A RED LIGHT SO THAT MY NEIGHBOR CAN PROCEED WITHOUT RED AND GREEN LIGHTS.

THINGS JUST DON'T WORK.

UH, SO YOU FIND YOURSELVES DUTY BOUND TO, TO VOTE ON A MEASURE THAT WILL TEMPORARILY CURTAIL AN ACTIVITY FOR SOME PEOPLE WHILE AT THE SAME TIME TEMPORARILY OFFERING SOMETHING TO OTHER PARTIES.

YOU NEED TO ANALYZE

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THE DATA.

YOU INCORPORATE THE INPUT OF KNOWLEDGEABLE PARTICIPANTS.

CONSIDER THE COMMENTS OF RESIDENTS AND STAKEHOLDERS, WEIGH IN THE ECONOMIC IMPACT OF YOUR CONCLUSIONS AND MAKE A DECISION.

BUT THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING, OVERWHELMINGLY OPPOSED TO THE CONTINUOUS USE OF LEAF BLOWERS THROUGH THE SUMMER, AND ESTABLISHING A MODERATE TIME PERIOD PROHIBITING THEIR USE CAUSES NO IRREPARABLE HARM TO ANYONE, ALL RESIDENTS, REGARDLESS OF WHERE THEY STAND ON THE MEASURE BEFORE YOU WANT CLARITY, DON'T MAKE GREENBURG A TOWN WITH ONLY YELLOW TRAFFIC LIGHTS.

WE, WE NEED GREEN AND RED LIGHTS SO WE CAN OPERATE WITH ONE ANOTHER, KNOWING WHEN TO PROCEED AND WHEN TO STOP.

SO I, I URGE YOU TO VOTE FOR THIS MEASURE.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? CAN YOU HEAR ME MORE UP? NO, YOU, I THINK YOU JUST NEED TO SPEAK LOUDER.

OH, THAT'S NOT IN MY NATURE.

I WILL TRY.

MY NAME IS DONNA ELLO.

I AM THE VICE CHAIRPERSON FOR THE C A C I WOULD LIKE TO EXPAND ON CHAIRPERSON TORY'S MENTION OF THE HARMFUL HEALTH IMPACTS OF LEAF BLOWERS.

THIS INFORMATION COMES AS A RESULT OF HOURS OF RESEARCH BY PAST AND CURRENT C A C MEMBERS.

I MENTION THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE LEAF BLOWER BAN RECOMMENDED BY THE C A C WAS NOT MADE CAPRICIOUSLY, BUT WAS MADE BASED ON EXTENSIVE RESEARCH INTO FACTUAL SCIENTIFIC IMPACTS OF LEAF BLOWERS.

SOURCES OF OUR RESEARCH AND INFORMATION INCLUDES THE U S E P A, THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION, THE NATIONAL ACADEMY OF SCIENCE, THE UNIVERSITY OF CALIFORNIA SCHOOL OF ENGINEERING, THE ORANGE COUNTY, CALIFORNIA GRAND JURY, MOUNT SINAI CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL, STONY BROOK SCHOOL OF MEDICINE, AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION, AND DR.

KENNETH SPADE'S TESTIMONY BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD OF GREENBURG.

DR.

SPA IS A TOWN RESIDENT AND IS A PROFESSOR AT HOFSTRA SCHOOL OF PUBLIC HEALTH.

HE IS ALSO A PRACTICING PHYSICIAN WHO HAS TREATED PATIENTS EXPOSED TO AIRBORNE PARTICULATES FROM LEAF BLOWERS WHEN THEY ARE IN USE.

LEAF BLOWERS ARE NOT JUST BLOWING LEAVES AND BLADES OF CUT GRASS.

THEY ARE ALSO BLOWING UP INTO THE AIR PARTICULATE MATTER THAT MAY INCLUDE ANIMAL WASTE, SUCH AS URINE AND FECAL MATTER FUNGI, MOLD SPORES, CHEMICALS FROM FERTILIZERS, HERBICIDES, AND PESTICIDES, AS WELL AS HEAVY METAL POLLUTANTS SUCH AS LEAD, MERCURY, COPPER, AND ARSENIC.

ABOUT FIVE POUNDS, FIVE POUNDS OF PARTICULATE MATTER PER LEAF BLOWER PER HOUR ARE SWEPT INTO THE AIR AND TAKE HOURS TO SETTLE.

THE HARMFUL HEALTH IMPACTS OF THIS CAN INCLUDE ASTHMA ATTACKS, RESPIRATORY PROBLEMS, HEART DISEASE, AND CANCER.

ACCORDING TO THE AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION, THOSE MOST AT RISK OF HEALTH IMPACTS FROM LEAF BLOWERS IN PARTICULATE MATTER ARE INFANTS, CHILDREN, TEENS, INDIVIDUALS WITH ASTHMA, AND PEOPLE OF COLOR.

CHILDREN ARE ESPECIALLY VULNERABLE TO THESE HAZARDS BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY BREATHE MORE AIR PER POUND OF BODY WEIGHT PER DAY THAN ADULTS.

TERRY WEAVER, THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION CHAIR, STATES THE INCREASED PARTICULATE POLLUTION IN THE EAST IS A TROUBLING TREND BECAUSE EXPOSURE TO PARTICLE POLLUTION CANNOT ONLY TAKE YEARS OFF YOUR LIFE.

IT CAN THREATEN YOUR LIFE IMMEDIATELY.

THE HEALTH IMPACTS OF LEAF BLOWERS IS A SERIOUS ISSUE.

IT IS THE ROLE OF THE C A C TO BRING THESE WELL-DOCUMENTED SCIENTIFIC FACTS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE TOWN BOARD.

LEAF BLOWER LEGISLATION IS SUPPORTED BY THE MEDICAL SOCIETY OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, THE LONG ISLAND CHAPTER OF THE AMERICAN LUNG ASSOCIATION, THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, THE ASTHMA COALITION, AND THE BREAST CANCER COALITION.

KNOWING THAT MORE PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY CHILDREN, ARE OUTSIDE DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, KNOWING THAT ON HOT HUMID DAYS, AIRBORNE PARTICLES WILL LINGER IN THE AIR LONG AFTER THE LEAF BLOWERS ARE GONE.

KNOWING THAT THERE REALLY ISN'T A NEED TO USE LEAF BLOWERS IN THE SUMMER, DOESN'T IT MAKE SENSE TO AT LEAST RESTRICT THEIR USE DURING THIS TIME TO MAKE THE AIR WE BREATHE A LITTLE CLEANER AND SAFER? THANK YOU.

I GUESS I HAVE A QUESTION BECAUSE THIS STARTED, I'M SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.

THIS, THIS STARTED REGARDING NOISE, BUT THE C A SS C AND THREE SPEAKERS NOW HAS EMPHASIZED THE POLLUTION FROM THE PARTICULATES.

IF YOU DON'T MIND.

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HOW DOES THAT NOT ALSO APPLY TO LAWNMOWERS AND WEED WHACKERS? THEY DON'T BLOW THE PARTICULATE MATTER UP INTO THE AIR.

I THINK WHAT THE C A C IS TRYING TO SAY, THAT PEOPLE HAVE BROUGHT THE ATTENTION OF LEAF BLOWERS TO THE ATTENTION OF THE TOWN BOARD BECAUSE THEY HEAR THE NOISE.

AND WHEN WE STARTED STUDYING LEAF BLOWERS, WE REALIZED NOISE ARE JUST ONE PART OF THE HARMFUL IMPACTS OF LEAF BLOWERS.

IT'S ALSO THE SOIL DEGRADATION AND IT'S ALSO THE PARTICULATE MATTER BEING BLOWN INTO THE AIR.

DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION LIKE AN ADD TO THAT ANSWER? WELL, THAT'S, WELL, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT TO OUR PARLIAMENTARIAN, BUT, 'CAUSE I THINK I, I, I, I THINK WE ARE DEVIATING FROM HOW WE HANDLED THE PLANNING BOARD WHEN THEY CAME BEFORE US.

AND I'M NOT SURE HOW WE GOT INTO THE SITUATION WHERE WE BASICALLY HAVE 15 MINUTES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO PRESENT THE LORD.

WHAT WHAT YOU'RE REALLY DOING IS NOT SOLELY PRESENTING THE LAW, BUT YOU'RE MAKING EACH ONE OF, YOU'RE MAKING BASICALLY THE SAME ARGUMENT REGARDING ULUS.

UH, BUT MY QUESTION IS, 'CAUSE I WENT TO A C A C MEETING, I GUESS IT'S GOTTA BE A YEAR OR TWO AGO, AND I SAID, WELL, WHAT'S NEXT LAWNMOWERS? AND ONE OF THE MEMBERS SAID, WHY NOT? AND THAT TROUBLED ME.

NO, IT WASN'T ALL THE MEMBERS, BUT IT WAS A MEMBER.

AND WHY IS THAT? NEXT IS LAWNMOWERS AND THEN LEAF BLOWERS.

WHEN YOU GET TO WEEDED WHACKERS WEED WHACKERS PUT PARTICULATES INTO THE AIR.

RIGHT? UM, AND SO IS IS THE, EXCUSE ME, EXCUSE ME.

IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY.

SO IS THIS NEXT WEED WHACKERS AFTER THAT LAWNMOWERS, UH, BECAUSE THE WORDING THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR LAW, WHICH I'VE DISCUSSED WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY, MEANS THAT WE SHOULD BAN THESE OUTRIGHT.

BECAUSE IF IT'S THAT HAZARDOUS, HOW COULD YOU ALLOW IT FOR EVEN AN HOUR DURING THE WEEK? AND OUR AUTOMOBILES PUT OUT A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PURDUE UH, POLLUTANTS, BUT WE'RE NOT BANNING THOSE.

SO THE QUESTION IS, AND I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE ARE VERY CONCERNED, WHAT I HEAR ABOUT IS THE NOISE.

AND THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE REGARDING THE PARTICULATES.

BUT IF WE WERE TO PUT THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU ARE PROPOSING THAT WE PUT IN STATING HOW HAZARDOUS IT IS TO OPERATE A LEAF BLOWER AS ADOPTED LAW, THERE'S NO WAY THAT WE COULD DO THAT AND ALLOW LEAF BOWL LOWERS TO BE USED EVER.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET AROUND THAT.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THE C A C SAYS, WELL, OKAY, WE'LL ALLOW IT FOR THIS PERIOD OF TIME BECAUSE THAT THE CHILDREN STILL HAVE THE SAME LUNG CAPACITY.

THERE'S STILL, SO I THINK IT'S BEEN RAISED TO A LEVEL THAT MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT FOR US.

'CAUSE EACH ONE OF YOU MADE THE SAME ARGUMENT.

IT, IT RAISED IT TO A LEVEL WHERE THESE ARE SO HAZARDOUS, THEY SHOULD BE ENTIRELY BANNED.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S A TOLERANCE FOR THAT.

JUST THAT, LIKE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A TOLERANCE TO BAN AUTOMOBILES.

AGREE.

WE AGREE.

THERE ISN'T A TOLERANCE FOR A COMPLETE BAN.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE SAYING AT LEAST IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, WHEN THE AIR IS MORE HUMID, SO THE PARTICULATE MATTER WILL STAY IN THE, IN THE HOT HUMID AIR LONGER AND MORE PEOPLE ARE OUTSIDE, AT LEAST DO IT THEN THAT'S A START.

AND THAT MIGHT BE ALL YOU NEED.

THAT'S DEFINITELY, AGAIN, WHEN MORE PEOPLE ARE OUT, WHEN THE HUMIDITY, I MEAN, IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, WHEN DO WE GET THOSE ALERTS, THOSE AIR QUALITY ALERT DAYS? THEY'RE DURING THE SUMMER.

HOW MANY, UH, SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE, JUDITH? THERE ARE, LET'S SEE, 12.

SO WHY DON'T WE, WE 12 IN INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WHY DON'T WE, UH, HEAR FROM THE SPEAKERS AND AFTER ALL THE SPEAKERS SPEAK, THEN, UH, THE BOARD COULD ASK QUESTIONS, UH, AND WE WON'T INTERRUPT ANYBODY FOR THE NEXT 12 SPEAKERS.

THOMAS K, IF, IF YOU WOULD, I'M, I'M GOING TO CALL, UM, SPEAKERS IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY SIGNED THIS LIST TO SPEAK.

AND IF YOU HAVEN'T SIGNED UP, YOU COULD FILL OUT A CARD.

AND IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU WERE GOING TO JUST REPEAT WHAT SOMEONE BEFORE YOU HAD SAID, YOU KNOW, JUST REITERATE THAT YOU ARE, YOU AGREE WITH SUPPORTING AND THAT YOU AGREE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT

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ALL OVER AGAIN.

WE'D APPRECIATE THAT.

THANKS.

GOOD EVENING, .

MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC.

UH, MY NAME IS THOMAS HAY.

I'M A 2323 YEAR RESIDENT OF HARTSDALE.

NOT USED TO BEING AT THE PODIUM.

I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS LAW.

I FEEL LIKE IT'S A STEP TOO FAR.

I BELIEVE IT'S OVERREACH.

I HAD THE SAME REACTION WHEN I FIRST READ ABOUT IT THAT, UM, ARE LAWNMOWERS NEXT.

I MEAN, IN MY OPINION, LEAF BLOWERS.

UH, I KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THEM.

I'M NOT DISPUTING THE HEALTH EFFECTS.

I HAVE NOT DONE THAT RESEARCH.

IT DOES SOUND LIKE IT'S SERIOUS, BUT IT'S NOT A GUN.

IT'S NOT A NUCLEAR POWER PLANT.

IT'S NOT A METH LAB.

IT'S AN ACCEPTED PRACTICE IN THE LANDSCAPING INDUSTRY THAT'S BEEN GOING ON A LONG TIME, JUST LIKE LAWNMOWERS.

AND I FEEL A TOTAL BAN IS JUST TOO FAR MY UNDERSTANDING.

AND I WAS KIND OF WATCHING FROM THE SIDELINES.

I BELIEVE THE TOWN HAS RECENTLY PASSED SOME LEGISLATION TO LIMIT THE DAYS AND TIMES THAT, UM, LEAF BLOWERS CAN BE USED.

IS THAT CORRECT OR NOT? NO, WE DIDN'T PASS THAT.

WELL, I READ ABOUT IT.

I THOUGHT THAT HAD BEEN PASSED.

SO MY ARGUMENT WAS THAT SEEMED LIKE A COMPROMISE DOESN'T SATISFY EVERYONE.

SOME PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, NO ONE'S COMPLETELY HAPPY.

THEY CAN USE THEM SOME OF THE TIME, BUT NOT ALL THE TIME WHEN I SAW A COMPLETE BAN.

I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S REALLY INFRINGING ON THE RIGHTS OF PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THE LAWN THE WAY THEY WANT TO DO THE LAWN WITH AN ACCEPT PIECE OF EQUIPMENT.

YES, TWO MONTHS IS NOT THE WHOLE YEAR, BUT IT'S A START.

IT'S A FOOT IN THE DOOR.

WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? AND ONE HOUR.

I'M SORRY, WHAT IF I'M WORKING DURING THAT ONE HOUR A DAY WHEN I COULD BE USING THAT LEAF BLOWER? IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM REASONABLE TO ME.

THAT'S MY OPINION.

MARK DE FABIO.

MY NAME IS MARK DE FABIO.

I LIVE IN PLEASANTVILLE, NEW YORK.

I OWN A LANDSCAPE COMPANY.

I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 35 YEARS.

UM, AND THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR LETTING ME SPEAK, UH, INCLUDING BUSINESS, INCLUDING IN GREENBURG.

UH, YEAH.

I MAINTAIN, UH, WELL OVER 50 ACCOUNTS IN GREENBURG.

UM, SO YES.

THE NAME OF THE COMPANY'S LAWN GREEN.

UM, JUST SO THAT IT'S ON THE RECORD, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WAS PRETTY OFFENDED BY THEM EQUATING A LEAF BLOWER TO A GUN.

YOU KNOW, I JUST, I CAN'T EVEN UNDERSTAND HOW THAT EQUATION CAN BE, UH, MADE.

UH, I ALSO LIKE TO, UM, COMMEND YOU IN BRINGING UP THAT WHAT'S NEXT? UH, MOWERS, YOU KNOW, SNOWBLOWERS, UM, WHEN I SPOKE AT THE MEETING IN PLEASANTVILLE, UM, MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT GOT UP, UH, SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T GO FAR ENOUGH WITH THE BANDS.

THEY WANTED TO DO OTHER EQUIPMENT.

THERE WAS EVEN TALK ABOUT NO MOWER MAY.

SO, YES.

YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A PROGRESSIVE STEP MOVING FORWARD.

NOT JUST BLOWERS, BUT OTHER EQUIPMENT.

UM, NOTES.

BE PUT ON THE HOMEOWNERS.

SO MYSELF BEING IN BUSINESS FOR OVER 35 YEARS, UM, I'VE BEEN AROUND BLOWERS AND POWER EQUIPMENT ALL MY LIFE, OR HALF, MORE THAN HALF MY LIFE.

UM, I'M HEALTHY.

I DON'T HAVE ANY ADVERSE REACTION, ANY ADVERSE EFFECTS FROM IT.

AND I'M IN IMMEDIATE CONTACT WITH THE EQUIPMENT.

MO ALL OF THE EQUIPMENT, ALL OF THE NEW EQUIPMENT THAT MOST REPUTABLE COMPANIES USE ARE UP TO DATE.

THEY DON'T LAST MORE THAN A COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO EVERYTHING MEETS NATIONAL STANDARDS IN DECIBEL LEVELS AND OUTPUT OF, UH, UH, CARBON AND ALL THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, A MAIN FOCUS SHOULD BE ON COMPANIES THAT ARE USING OUTDATED EQUIPMENT THAT ARE NOT MEETING NATIONAL STANDARDS.

UM, YEARS AGO, TOWN OF GREENBERG USED TO ALSO, UH, PICK UP LEAVES AND TAKE LEAVES AWAY FOR THE, FOR THEIR RESIDENTS.

NOW THAT COST GOES ONTO THE RESIDENTS BACK BECAUSE NOW THEY HAVE TO PAY LANDSCAPE COMPANIES, UH, MORE MONEY IN ORDER TO REMOVE THE LEAVES, CART THEM AWAY, AND PAY FOR THE DUMPING FEES.

SO ALL OF THESE THINGS, ALL OF THESE LAWS THAT ARE BEING ENACTED ARE GONNA BE DETRIMENTAL.

AND BASICALLY THE BURDEN IS GONNA

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AS A LANDSCAPE COMPANY, OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE IS LABOR.

AND THERE'S NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT RAKING OR PUSHING A BROOM IS AS COST EFFICIENT AS USING A LEAF BLOWER DURING THE SEASON.

DURING THE NON-LEASE SEASON, I INSTRUCT ALL OF MY WORKERS TO USE BLOWERS MINIMALLY.

OKAY? SO MY MEN DON'T WANT TO USE THE BLOWERS FOR LONG PERIODS OF TIME.

THEY WANT TO USE 'EM MINIMALLY, GET OFF THE PROPERTY AND ONTO THE NEXT PROPERTY.

HOW ARE YOU GOING TO ENFORCE THE LAW WITH COMPANIES THAT AREN'T REGISTERED, THAT DON'T HAVE SIGNS ON THEIR TRUCKS, PHONE NUMBERS, OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I FEEL THAT A LOT OF THESE COMPANIES ARE ABUSING THE USE OF THIS TYPE OF EQUIPMENT.

AND ALSO, IS IT AN ADEQUATE USE OF POLICE FORCE TO GO AFTER LANDSCAPERS AND WASTE THEIR TIME AND EFFORTS ON ENFORCING A, A BLOWER BAN INSTEAD OF DOING THE ACTUAL WORK THAT THE POLICE ARE PAID TO DO? UM, AGAIN, A LOT OF THE COSTS ARE GONNA GO BACK ONTO THE HOMEOWNERS, JUST LIKE IT DID WITH THE, WITH THE TAKING THE LEAVES AWAY.

THAT TOWN OF GREENBURG USED TO DO, BUT NOW THE HOMEOWNERS ARE GRUNTING THE COST OF THAT.

UM, COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS.

UM, IS THE FIRE DEPARTMENT IN GREENBURG, ARE THEY CAPABLE OF PUTTING OUT LITHIUM FIRES? HAVE THEY BEEN TRAINED AND ARE THEY, DO THEY KNOW HOW TO DO IT? AND DOES EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOW HOW ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD, HOW MUCH OF A ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD A LITHIUM FIRE IS? SO THEY'RE BANNING BATTERY OPERATED EQUIPMENT EVERYWHERE.

YES, THEY ARE.

FORDHAM UNIVERSITY.

WE NEED TO LET THE SPEAKER, FORDHAM UNIVERSITY, WILL NOT ALLOW THOSE BATTERY OPERATED SCOOTERS ON CAMPUS ANYMORE.

APARTMENT BUILDINGS WON'T ALLOW ANY OF THE BATTERY OPERATED EQUIPMENT IN THEIR BUILDINGS ANYMORE.

'CAUSE THEY'RE FIRE HAZARDS.

THEY GO ON FIRE.

THANK YOU, MICHAEL IORIO.

DOES D P W GET TO USE THEM? WHY DO PARKS GET TO USE THEM? IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT NOISE, IF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT PARTICLES GETTING INTO THE ENVIRONMENT THAT'S UNSAFE FOR OUR CHILDREN, UH, I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS AND CHILDREN AT PARKS, BALL FIELDS, AND THE AREAS THAT YOUR D P W EMPLOYEES TAKE CARE OF.

UH, MY NAME IS MIKE IORIO.

I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEW YORK STATE TURF AND LANDSCAPE ASSOCIATION.

WE REPRESENT ABOUT 500 LANDSCAPE PROFESSIONALS THROUGHOUT WESTCHESTER COUNTY AND NEW YORK STATE.

WE'VE DONE INTENSIVE STUDIES ON BLOWERS, GAS POWERED EQUIPMENT, BATTERY POWERED EQUIPMENT, NOT THE FORM FOR IT TONIGHT.

SO I'M NOT GONNA GO INTO THAT.

HOWEVER, A FEW THINGS I DO WANT TO MENTION IS, AS MARK STATED, LABOR IS OUR HIGHEST COST AS A LANDSCAPER.

IF WE TAKE AWAY TECHNOLOGY WHERE WE'RE USING EQUIPMENT AND MACHINERY TO CUT DOWN ON LABOR, COSTS ARE GONNA GO UP.

WHO'S GONNA PAY THOSE COST HOMEOWNERS? SECONDLY, THERE'S A LACK OF LABOR FORCE OUT THERE.

I KNOW EVEN THE TOWN ITSELF HAS PROBLEM FINDING LABOR.

THIRDLY, WE MENTIONED DOING AWAY WITH PLASTIC BAGS.

HOWEVER, WE REPLACED THE PLASTIC BAGS WITH ANOTHER TOOL.

INSTEAD OF USING A PLASTIC BAG FOR USING A PAPER BAG OR A CLOTH BAG, YOU DIDN'T GIVE US AN ALTERNATIVE TO USING A BLOWER.

WE SAID A BROOM THAT'S GOING BACKWARDS.

THIRDLY, AS THE COUNCILMAN STATED, WHERE DOES THE BAND STOP? LAWNMOWERS, WEED, WHACKERS, WOOD, CHIPPERS, CHAINSAWS, ALL NEW TECHNOLOGY THAT WE USE.

ARE WE GONNA CUT TREES WITH AN AX LIKE PAUL BUNION? THIRDLY, WE MENTIONED A TIMEFRAME, AS THE OTHER GENTLEMAN MENTIONED, HOMEOWNERS THAT DO THEIR OWN PROPERTY ARE USUALLY WORKING MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

ARE THEY GONNA BOTH DO THEIR LAWN AND DURING THAT ONE HOUR, THEY'RE GONNA BLOW AROUND THEIR POOL OR THEIR PATIO TO BLOW AWAY DUST, POLLEN AND DEBRIS.

ALSO, IN A DRY SEASON, LEAVES DO TEND TO FALL AS TREES DRY UP.

THEY DO LOSE THEIR LEAVES.

SO THERE WILL BE TIMES WHEN LEAVES WILL FALL DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.

FOURTHLY, ON THE ONE HOUR BAN, HOW CAN A COMPANY THAT RUNS A PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPING COMPANY TAKING CARE OF HUNDREDS OF CUSTOMERS, TAXPAYERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY IN ONE HOUR? WE CAN'T GET TO EVERY HOUSE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT HOMEOWNER'S PROPERTY AND FIFTHLY, AND I THINK MOST IMPORTANT BY READING THAT LAW, THE EXEMPTIONS, WHY

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SO IF THERE WOULD BE A BAN, IT SHOULD BE FOR ALL.

IF WE WOULD BE JUST BE BANNING HOMEOWNERS AND PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPERS AND NOT THE D P W WORKERS OR THE OTHER EXEMPTIONS, I THINK THAT WEIGHS ON A POSSIBLE DISCRIMINATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, ANTHONY.

IS IS IT VOL OR VOL? VOL.

I'M SORRY.

TWO LETTERS THAT I'D LIKE TO HAND OUT TO THE TOWN BOARD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE, I'LL TAKE ALL COPIES.

YOU GOT ALL COPIES? THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

I'M ANTHONY VALONE, UM, THIRD GENERATION LANDSCAPERS, PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPERS.

UM, ALRIGHT.

SO, OKAY, AS FAR AS THIS STUDY'S CONCERNED, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE IT IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY? I, I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE NOT USING OUR BLOWERS.

TAKE THE STUDY THEN.

AND THEY SAY THAT THE BLOWERS CREATED HURRICANE LIKE WINDS.

I'VE NEVER SEEN A BLOWER BLOW DOWN A TREE OR A ROOF, SO I, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S COMING FROM.

WE ARE THE PROFESSIONALS, NOW SUPERVISOR, I WAS ON YOUR RADIO SHOW WITH THE LEAF MULCHING.

SO WE DO LEAF MULCHING.

MOST OF US DO LEAF MULCHING, CUTS DOWN THE LEAVES, BUT WE NEED OUR BLOWERS TO BLOW OFF THE SIDEWALKS.

YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY SIMPLE, BUT YOU'RE TAKING AWAY OUR EQUIPMENT.

LIKE MIKE SAID, THE HOMEOWNER'S GOING TO, UH, , UM, IS GOING TO, UH, YEAH, THE COST IS GONNA GO UP.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST THINK YOU SHOULD RECONSIDER THIS.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU SHOULD TALK TO US THE PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPERS.

WE KNOW THE ANSWERS.

BLAZE BENZI.

I'LL GIVE YOU MY PAPER WHEN I FINISH.

CAN EVERYBODY HEAR ME? YES.

UH, SUPERVISOR FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU THIS EVENING ON THIS MATTER INVOLVING LEAF BLOWERS AND THE PROPOSED BAN ON THEIR USE FROM JUNE 15 THROUGH AUGUST 14TH.

BLAISE, COULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF? I'M GOING DO THAT NEXT.

OKAY, NEXT PARAGRAPH.

AND WITH HIS PERMISSION, I'LL READ IT, IT READS AS FOLLOWS.

FIRST, LET ME INTRODUCE MYSELF.

I'M BLAISE SPINI AND I HAVE THE HONOR OF BEING THE PRESIDENT OF THE HILLTOP FARMS CIVIC ASSOCIATION INCORPORATED.

WE'RE A COMMUNITY OF ROUGHLY 80 PLUS HOMES LOCATED NEAR THE SPRINGBROOK PARKWAY IN BETWEEN POETS CORNER AND ORCHARD HILL.

OUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS MET ON MONDAY EVENING TO DISCUSS THIS PROPOSED BAN AMONG OTHER THINGS.

WHILE ALL OF OUR BOARD WAS IN AGREEMENT THAT THIS BAN SHOULD NOT GO INTO EFFECT, OUR BOARD MEMBERS, AS WE DO IN ALL INSTANCES, WOULD NOT VOICE THAT OPINION PUBLICLY HERE TONIGHT WITHOUT FIRST POLLING OUR COMMUNITY AS WE DO IN ANY MATTER OF SUCH IMPORTANCE.

SO, MONDAY EVENING AT 9:30 PM AFTER OUR MEETING, I HURRIEDLY SENT OUT AN EMAIL TO OUR COMMUNITY ADVISING THEM OF THE PROPOSED BAN ON LEAF BLOWERS AND SEEKING THEIR OPINION.

UP TO NOW, I'VE HEARD FROM AT LEAST HALF OF OUR RESIDENTS, AND NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON IS IN FAVOR OF THIS BAN.

I SHOULD STATE THAT WHILE SITTING HERE THIS EVENING.

I'M STILL GETTING EMAILS OPPOSING THIS BAN.

I COULD THINK OF MANY REASONS WHY THIS BAN SHOULD NOT GO INTO EFFECT, BUT I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP TOO MUCH TIME BECAUSE I KNOW THERE ARE FOLKS HERE MORE ELOQUENT, THEY'RE MORE INFORMED THAN ME WHO ARE GOING TO PRESENT THEIR ARGUMENTS TO YOU, AND MANY OF THEM HAVE ALREADY.

BUT I DO WANNA SHARE WITH YOU AN EMAIL I RECEIVED FROM A GENTLEMAN IN OUR COMMUNITY,

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GOOD EVENING, BLAZE.

I BELIEVE THIS LEGISLATION WOULD CAUSE UNDUE BURDEN ON THE MAJORITY OF FOLKS, ESPECIALLY THOSE WHO PERFORM THEIR OWN HOT YARD WORK.

FAGE FALLEN FROM TREES MAY BE LESS DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, BUT NONETHELESS STILL OCCUR.

AND LEAF BLOWERS ARE AN EXCELLENT WAY TO CLEAN UP ONE'S PROPERTY.

WHILE THE HEALTH CONCERNS ARE LAUDABLE, THEY SEEM TO BE QUESTIONABLE AT BEST WITH THE SUMMERS BECOMING INCREASINGLY MORE HOT AND HUMID.

THE LAST THING WE WANT ARE INDIVIDUALS SPENDING UNNECESSARY LABOR HOURS PERFORMING MANUAL TASKS IN THE HEAT THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED MUCH QUICKER USING A BLOWER.

I THINK THE INTENTION HERE WOULD BE TO CAUSE MORE HARM THAN GOOD HOPE THAT THE HEARING RESULTS IN AN OPPOSITION TO THIS MATTER AND ASSIGNED BY GIAN PIERO CARANO.

ALSO, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE GARDENERS BLAZE, COULD YOU SPELL THAT FOR THE STENOGRAPHER? I'M GONNA GIVE THE, FOR A COPY OF MY PAPER.

THANK YOU MR. SHEEN.

ALSO, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THAT THE GARDENERS WHO SERVICE OUR COMMUNITY WILL BE CONSTRAINED TO PASS THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH HAVING TO DO MANUAL CLEANUP TO THE RESIDENTS WHO USE THEIR SERVICES, WHICH IS TANTAMOUNT TO AN ADDITIONAL TAX ON THE RESIDENTS.

HAVING SAID THAT, PLEASE KNOW THAT HILLTOP FARM CIVIC ASSOCIATION IS FORMALLY OPPOSED TO THIS RESTRICTIVE BAN.

AND I THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME.

HAVE A GOOD EVENING, WAYNE.

EXCUSE ME.

WAYNE STEWARTS, AM I PRONOUNCING YOUR NAME CORRECTLY? WAYNE STUTZ.

UH, I WOULD, WAYNE STUTZ, BEFORE YOU BEGIN, I, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT ANY, ANYONE WHO COMES UP TO SPEAK, YOU ACTUALLY SPELL YOUR NAME, UH, SO THAT THE SONOGRAPHER GETS IT CORRECTLY.

IT'S, UH, SHE DOES THE BEST JOB SHE CAN, BUT LOOKING AT SOME OF THE TRANSCRIPTS, UM, UH, I WOULD'VE MADE THE SAME AS SAME MISSPELLING AS.

SO IF YOU WANT YOUR NAME SPELLED CORRECTLY AND THE TRANSCRIPT, IT'D BE HELPFUL IF YOU WOULD SPELL IT FOR THIS PHOTOGRAPHER.

IT'S, UH, S T U E T Z.

I COULD SPEAK.

YEP.

THERE'S DEBRIS EVERYWHERE.

SO AS FAR AS BANNING IT DURING THE SUMMER, DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS, WE PRUNE.

AND THAT'S OUR, A LOT OF OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP IT SAFE FOR THE COMMUNITY, IS KEEPING SAFE PASS PASSAGEWAYS AT HOMES, KEEPING, UH, YARDS CLEAN.

YOU KNOW, THE BRANCHES, THE PRI HEDGES AND TALK ABOUT LEAVES AFTER YOU PRUNE A PRI HEDGE.

IT'S MANY, MANY MINUSCULE LEAVES COVERED ACROSS DRIVEWAYS, PARKING LOTS, POOLS.

PEOPLE WALK ON THESE AREAS.

YOU HAVE TO KEEP THEM CLEAN.

YOU CAN'T JUST LEAVE IT.

YOU RAKE IT, IT DOESN'T COME UP WITH A RAKE.

YOU BROOM IT, IT DOESN'T COME UP.

YOU HAVE TO BLOW IT.

IT'S THE SAFEST WAY.

IT'S THE SMARTEST WAY.

AND IT'S SILLY TO THINK THAT WE'RE EVEN THINKING THIS.

I THINK ALL OF THIS STUFF IS JUST A JOKE.

ALL THIS BLOWER STUFF AND THE PARTICLES, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 30 YEARS, I'D BE DEAD ON THE FLOOR.

I MEAN, IT'S CRAZINESS.

THE IDEAS FECAL MATTER.

LET'S BAN DOGS.

LET'S BAN ALL THE CATS.

YOU KNOW, THE FECAL MATTERS ON THE LAWN.

IT'S GONNA COME UP AND KILL ME.

IT'S CRAZINESS.

I MOW OVER LAWNS.

I MOW OVER DOG POOP, AND I'M NOT DEAD.

I'M HERE.

AND I THINK IT'S JUST PEOPLE HAVE NOTHING ELSE BETTER TO DO.

LEAVE US ALONE AND LET US CLEAN GREENBURG.

THIS IS OUR TOWN.

BUT YOU WANNA KEEP IT CLEAN.

IT MAKES NO SENSE TO ME.

WE GO OUT THERE DAILY IN THE HEAT, IN THE COLD, JUST TO KEEP YOUR PROPERTIES CLEAN AND NEAT.

PEOPLE COME TO THESE TOWNS AND THEY GO, WOW, LOOK AT THIS TOWN.

IT'S SO, LOOK AT THE GRASS.

LOOK AT ALL THIS BEAUTIFUL LANDSCAPE.

LET'S JUST TOSS IT OUT THE DOOR.

STUPIDITY EVERY TOWN, WHITE PLAINS, ALL OF THEM.

IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL.

THESE BLOWERS ARE THE BIGGEST PART OF MY BUSINESS, BESIDES MOWING, OF COURSE, BUT WE, OH, YOU CAN MOW, BUT YOU CAN'T BLOW.

THAT'S RIDICULOUS.

THE MOWER IS SPINNING TORNADO WAVES IN MY MOWER, TORNADO WAVES IN MY MOWER.

BUT THAT'S OKAY.

THE FECAL MATTER DOESN'T MOVE UNDER THE BLOWER OF A MOWER.

BUT YET, WHEN I PUT ON MY

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BACKPACK TO CLEAN A PROPERTY TO KEEP THE KIDS SAFE AROUND THE POOL, BECAUSE THE GRASS CLIPPINGS ARE SLIPPERY, THE LEAVES FROM THE FLOWERS ALL SUMMER LONG.

THERE'S ANOTHER FLOWERING TREE.

THERE'S ANOTHER FLOWER DRIPPING DOWN ONTO A WALKWAY WHERE KIDS ARE RUNNING.

AND WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO? OH, YEAH, JUST LET 'EM RUN.

NOW IT'S UNSAFE FOR THE KIDS.

SO MAYBE WE'LL START THINKING, MAYBE WE'LL START THINKING THAT THE LANDSCAPERS ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN THIS TOWN.

AND MY PROBLEM IS SCAR.

I MEAN, UH, SORRY, SANDY.

PEOPLE WERE, OH, WHERE ARE YOU? COME SAVE ME.

NOW IT'S, OH, WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE WITH YOUR BLOWER THAT'S GOING TO KILL THE PLANET.

IT'S CRAZINESS.

AND THEN THESE BATTERIES, THE BATTERIES, OH, USE THE BATTERIES.

AND YOU'RE NOT OFFENDED BY THE BATTERIES.

I GET IT.

IT'S ALL BLOWERS.

BUT THEY WANT US TO USE THE BATTERIES IN OTHER TOWNS AND IT MAKES NO SENSE, NO SENSE AT ALL.

BECAUSE THESE BATTERIES ARE POISONOUS BOMBS.

POISONOUS BOMBS, AND EVERYBODY'S, OH, USE THE BATTERY.

IT WORKS JUST THE SAME.

IT DOES NOT WORK.

NONE OF IT WORKS EXCEPT FOR MY GAS BLOWER.

AND UNTIL THAT DAY COMES, I'M GOING TO USE MY GAS BLOWER ARREST ME.

I, I I WANNA PO YEAH, I WANNA MAKE A COMMENT.

UH, PLEASE ADDRESS THE BOARD.

THE MEMBERS OF THE C A C ARE VERY DEDICATED PEOPLE.

THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH THEY CARE ABOUT AS ABOUT THIS TOWN.

AS MUCH AS YOU SAY YOU CARE ABOUT THE TOWN, THIS IS NOT PERSONAL.

PLEASE DO NOT DIRECT YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS TO A PARTICULAR PERSON.

YOU DIRECT THEM TO THE BOARD.

UH, WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE BE MAKING THE DECISION ON THIS, AND I'D REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

WE DON'T, WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, IT'S THEATRICS, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT NECESSARY NAME'S.

PETE , V U L P O N E.

I LIVE IN THE DON PARK AREA OF GREENBURG.

UH, YOU KNOW, I USED TO BLOW UP MY HOUSE, BLOW OFF THE SIDEWALKS, DRIVEWAYS IN THE SUMMER.

I'M USING IT LESS.

I'M NOT BLOWING OFF TOPSOIL.

THERE'S NO NEED TO BLOW OFF TOPSOIL.

UH, YOU KNOW, MY ONLY CONCERN WAS WHY AREN'T THE D P W BANNED FROM THE SOSO AND GREENBERG? AND THE OTHER THING IS TOO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE COPS GOING AROUND ENFORCING IT WHEN THEY COULD BE DOING OTHER THINGS TO PROTECT THIS TOWN.

COP CAN GO GIVE MY NEIGHBOR A TICKET FOR USING A BLOWER.

I MEAN, IT'S RIDICULOUS.

YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING IS TOO, NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT THIS.

I ASKED ONE OF MY NEIGHBORS WHEN I WAS LEAVING TO COME HERE, HE WAS USING THIS BLOWER.

HE HAS NO IDEA ABOUT THIS.

SO TO TRY TO SNEAK THIS IN, IT'S KIND OF, IT'S KIND OF WRONG, YOU KNOW? I KNOW TWO WEEKS AGO THERE WAS ANOTHER MEETING ABOUT BLOWERS AND YOU WERE ALLOWED TO USE ONE BLOWER PER YARD IF IT WAS UNDER SO MANY FEET.

AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO BAND IT TWO WEEKS LATER.

SO JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT.

SO, THANKS.

AND THE SEVENTIES, YOU KNOW, YOU DID USE A BROOM AND YOU COULD CLEAR OFF A DRIVEWAY.

HOUSE.

I SEE THIS AS A VERY DIFFICULT ISSUE, WHICH IS NOT GONNA MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY ALL THE TIME.

AND I RESPECT THE C A C AS AN ENTITY, BUT I THOUGHT THE ARGUMENTS THEY PRESENTED WERE TERRIBLE.

THE SURGEON GENERAL HAS BANNED SMOKING.

NO, HE HASN'T.

IT'S HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH, HE SAYS, OR SAID AT THAT TIME, YET, WE CONTINUE TO SELL CIGARETTES.

RECENTLY WE APPROVED MARIJUANA, WHICH I FAVORED.

BUT OF COURSE THAT IS ALSO HARMFUL TO YOUR HEALTH IN THE MIND OF A LOT OF PEOPLE.

UM, CALIFORNIA IN SAN FRANCISCO, THEY BANNED PLASTIC BAGS OVER 20 YEARS AGO.

WHEN I READ THAT IN THE NEWSPAPER, I FORWARDED IT TO MR. FINER WHO DID NOTHING.

SO THE CONCERN TODAY SEEMS TO BE OVER HOLDING THIS EXPERIMENT, AN EXPERIMENT COMPLETELY WITHOUT SCIENTIFIC CONTROLS.

LET'S CONSIDER THE ABSOLUTE PERFECT SITUATION.

THERE IS NO ONE USING ANY OF THIS EQUIPMENT.

AND BY THE WAY, WHAT IF YOU JUST NAME IT NOW, A GRASS BLOWER WITH THE LAW BE EFFECTIVE.

BUT GOING BACK TO WHAT I TRIED TO SAY OVER TIME, IT'S PERFECT.

OVER THE THREE MONTHS OF THIS EXPERIMENT, IT'S PERFECT.

THERE ISN'T A LAWNMOWER GOING BY.

THERE ISN'T A LEAF

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BLOWER.

ABSOLUTE SILENCE.

NOTHING IS FLOODING AROUND.

NO ONE IS RAKING ANYTHING.

NOW THE END OF THE EXPERIMENT, AUGUST, WHAT HAVE YOU LEARNED? ARE YOU NOT GOING TO ALLOW LEAF BLOWERS WHEN THE ACTUAL LEAF SEASON STARTS IN THE FALL? HOW ARE YOU GONNA REMOVE THOSE LEAVES? YOU GOT EVERYTHING YOU WANTED.

YOU HAVE AN EXPERIMENT, WHICH SEEMED TO PROVE THAT LIFE WOULD BE A LOT BETTER WITHOUT THIS EQUIPMENT.

WHAT IS THIS EXPERIMENT GOING TO TELL YOU? THIS IS JUST THE 2023 PART OF THE TOWN BOARD.

NOT THE SAME TOWN BOARD OF YEARS GONE BY WHEN WE HAD THIS PARADE OF PEOPLE COMING FROM A TRI-STATE AREA BECAUSE MR. FINER WAS EXPLOITING EXOTIC ANIMALS BEING EXHIBITED IN GREENBURG.

THIS IS ANOTHER, AS SEINFELD WOULD SAY, A SHOW ABOUT NOTHING.

LOUIS ARGENTO, HI, I, I HAVE A, UH, LITTLE DIFFERENT SITUATION.

I HAVE TWO OFFICE BUILDINGS ON PROSPECT AVENUE, UM, THAT I PAY PRETTY HIGH TAXES.

AND, UM, I'M ALSO IN THE LEAF BLOWER BUSINESS BESIDES THAT, BUT I'M NOT A LANDSCAPER.

I SOLD OVER CLOSE TO 50 LEAF BLOWERS, BACKPACK BLOWERS TO THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER, THIS SHEER.

SO THEY HAVE NO INTENTION OF NOT USING LEAF BLOWERS.

MY THING IS, YOU'RE SAYING IT PUTS PARTICLES IN THE AIR AND IT'S BAD FOR, AND IT'S BAD FOR KIDS.

SO WE NOT SUPPOSED TO BLOW NEAR BY SCHOOLS.

LET'S NOT BLOW SCHOOLS AT ALL.

AND LET'S NOT BLOW THE TOWN POOL BECAUSE KIDS ARE THERE.

AND LET'S NOT, UH, BLOW PARKS BECAUSE THE PARKS, THE KIDS ARE PLAYING IN THE PARKS.

AND LET'S NOT DO THE GOLF COURSES.

'CAUSE EVERYBODY'S ON GOLF COURSES AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S NOT DO ANY, ANYBODY DO ANYTHING THEN.

BECAUSE IF IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ME, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THEM.

NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, STARTING IN JUNE ON PROSPECT AVENUE, IF YOU GO DOWN THERE FOR A MONTH, IT'S LIKE SNOW.

IT'S, YOU CAN'T SEE THE WHITE STUFF COMING OFF THE TREES IS UNBELIEVABLE.

IT'S CLOGGING MY AIR CONDITION ROOF, AIR CONDITIONERS, WHICH I HAVE TO GET UP THERE AND BLOW EVERY TWO WEEKS, OKAY? OR I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPLY MY TENANTS WITH, WITH, UH, AIR CONDITIONING.

SO IT DOESN'T STOP IN JUNE.

IT GOES ON UNTIL JULY.

ALL THIS WHITE STUFF.

AND IT'S ALL OVER.

IT'S OVER ON NORWOOD, IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.

THAT STUFF, YOU STEP IN IT, IT'S UP TO YOUR ANKLES.

WE NEED LEAF BLOWERS.

I CAN'T DO IT WITH A BROOM.

AS YOU DO IT LIKE THIS, IT JUST GOES LIKE AWAY.

YOU CAN'T DO IT WITH A RAKE.

I NEED A LEAF BLOWER AND I HAVE PRIDE IN KEEPING MY PROPERTY WELL.

BUT IF YOU'RE GONNA ENFORCE THIS, ENFORCE IT FOR THE D P W, ENFORCE IT FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, ENFORCE IT FOR EVERYBODY.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

MARIE HOULAHAN, WHILE SHE'S COMING UP, UH, THE, THERE IS AN EXEMPTION.

ALL ALL, YOU KNOW, AT ALL TIMES YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BLOW AN AIR CONDITIONER.

I'M SORRY, YOU'RE, YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BLOW DEBRIS OFF OF A AIR CONDITIONER OR THE LINES AROUND IT.

THAT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE THE CASE.

UM, I, I LIVE ON HIGHLAND ROAD AND I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT OF GREENBURG FOR ABOUT 25 YEARS.

UM, I JUST WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE.

A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, I WENT FOR A WALK WITH MY SISTER WHO HAS ASTHMA.

WE WENT DOWN ONE BLOCK, SHE COULDN'T BREATHE.

WE WENT DOWN ANOTHER BLOCK.

PEOPLE ARE BLOWING LEAVES.

YOU KNOW, WE FINALLY TURNED AROUND AND, AND WENT HOME.

UM, MY HUSBAND HAS BAD ALLERGIES THIS TIME OF YEAR.

IF WE'RE WALKING AND PEOPLE ARE BLOWING LEAVES, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S, IT'S VERY BAD FOR, FOR KIDS WITH ASTHMA.

IT'S VERY BAD FOR PEOPLE ADULTS WITH ASTHMA.

I TOTALLY GET THAT DURING SPRING CLEANUPS AND DURING THE FALL WHEN, WHEN THE LEAVES ARE COMING DOWN THAT THE LANDSCAPE BUSINESSES, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WITH THE LABOR PROBLEMS CAN BENEFIT FROM USING LEAF BLOWERS.

UM, I GARDEN AND I DON'T REALLY SEE MUCH OF A NEED IN THE SUMMER FOR LEAF BLOWERS OTHER THAN PEOPLE'S DRIVEWAYS, WHICH, UM, I GUESS MAYBE GROWING UP IN THE SIXTIES

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AND I, I GET THAT THAT'S NOT REALISTIC IN THE SPRING AND IN THE FALL.

BUT IN THE SUMMER, I THINK WHEN KIDS ARE OUTSIDE, HOPEFULLY PLAYING MORE, AND ALSO JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DO WANNA ENJOY YOUR PROPERTY AND THERE'S, IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD TO EVER, YOU KNOW, WHEN I USED TO HAVE A DOG, I'D GO FOR A WALK AND THERE'S ALWAYS SOMEBODY BLOWING, YOU KNOW, ON, ON PROPERTIES.

AND I, I THINK THIS SHOULDN'T JUST BE ABOUT WHAT WORKS FOR PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPERS WHO I ABSOLUTELY RESPECT THEIR BUSINESSES, BUT I THINK IT SHOULD ALSO BE ABOUT WHAT WORKS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN WITH ASTHMA, WHICH IS A HUGE PUBLIC HEALTH PROBLEM AT THE MOMENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, JUST FOR THE MANY PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY THAT HAVE BAD ALLERGIES, UM, THE SUMMER MONTHS ARE A TIME WHEN WE DO HAVE MORE AIR ALERT ISSUES, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE, YOU KNOW, FOR A COMPROMISE.

SOMEBODY WAS MENTIONING THAT THE GOVERNMENT HASN'T TOTALLY BANNED SMOKING.

NO, BUT THEY DID SAY NOT OKAY TO SMOKE, YOU KNOW, IN A RESTAURANT NOT OKAY TO SMOKE ON A PLANE.

WE'VE MADE ALLOWANCES TO PROTECT OUR CHILDREN AND TO PROTECT ADULTS.

AND I THINK THIS IS ANOTHER ISSUE WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME TO BE THE END OF THE WORLD.

A LOT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES HAVE DONE THIS.

AND I THINK LANDSCAPE BUSINESSES ARE GOING TO HAVE TO ADAPT TO THIS BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE PLEASANTVILLE JUST PASSED A BAN.

SOMEBODY WAS HERE FROM PLEASANTVILLE, AND I BELIEVE THEY JUST BA DID A BAN.

SO I, I JUST WOULD ASK YOU WHEN YOU'RE VOTING ON THIS TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT WE HAVE A VERY GROWING PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE OF CHILDHOOD ASTHMA.

AND, YOU KNOW, NOT TO MENTION THE FACT THAT YOU WALK AROUND THIS TIME OF YEAR AND HALF THE POPULATION IS SNEEZING AND COUGHING BECAUSE OF ALLERGIES.

SO TO ME, THIS, THIS IS A COMPROMISE.

AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BANNING LEAF BLOWING THAT THE NEXT STEP IS BANNING LAWNMOWERS.

I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WANTS TO BAN LAWNMOWERS.

I DON'T THINK, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY IS LOOKING TO DO THAT.

I THINK WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, AND I'M NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE NOISE.

I KNOW A LOT OF MY FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS WHO WORK AT HOME NOW ALSO JUST COMPLAIN ABOUT THE NOISE, WHICH I THINK IS ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, LEGITIMATE ISSUE.

BUT I GUESS FOR ME, SPEAKING AS SOMEBODY WHO HAVE FAMILY MEMBERS WITH ASTHMA, I, I'M URGING YOU TO CONSIDER THE, THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE OF THIS, THIS ISSUE.

AND I HAD NO IDEA THAT WE HAD SUCH AN ACTIVE C A C WHO HAS BEEN LOOKING AT THIS FOR YEARS.

AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE MEMBERS WHO HAVE RESEARCHED THIS, UM, BECAUSE JUST LISTENING, I LEARNED A LOT FROM YOU AND I KNOW YOU KNOW, BOTH WITH THE TOWN BOARD AND BOARDS LIKE THIS, IT'S A LOT OF WORK AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE PUT WORK AND RESEARCH INTO THIS.

WEST VIRGINIA OR TENNESSEE BECAUSE THEY HAVE WOOD, WOOD, WOOD, COAL BURNING ELECTRICITY.

ALLISON GILMORE.

HI, I'M ALLISON GILMORE.

UM, I HAVE BEEN A RESIDENT OF GREENBURG, UH, OWNING A HOME FOR 15 YEARS.

UM, AND I ALSO LIVED HERE AS A KID AND I LOVE IT HERE.

SO I'LL START WITH THAT.

I, UM, REALLY APPRECIATED THE PRESENTATION BY THE C A C AND, UM, FACT IS SCIENCE SAYS LEAF BLOWERS ARE BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH.

AND THAT'S FROM NOT THE LEAF BLOWER INDUSTRY.

THAT'S STRAIGHT FROM THE LABS, THE SCIENTISTS, THE MEDICAL PROFESSION.

AND THAT'S WHERE I START WHEN I WANNA SORT OF EVALUATE WHAT'S BEST FOR ME AND MY FAMILY AND FRANKLY THE COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE.

UM, AND UH, TODAY MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE THING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A TWO MONTH BAN.

IT'S NOT A PERMANENT BAN.

UH, I DID LISTEN TO THE, UM, MEETING THAT WAS HELD A COUPLE WEEKS AGO AND I HEARD A LOT OF THE PROFESSIONALS TALK ABOUT NOT FALL CLEANUP, BUT NOT SPRING CLEANUP.

WELL, THIS IS NOT FALL CLEANUP OR SPRING CLEANUP.

SO IT DOES SEEM TO ME LIKE A REALLY GOOD COMPROMISE THAT IS THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN IT IS QUIETER, UM, IN THEORY.

AND THERE'S, THERE'S THERE SHOULDN'T BE MUCH TO BLOW OR MOVE AWAY.

UM, AND FROM, FROM A HEALTH AND OF THE PLANET AND JUST WHERE WE LIVE AS A COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE DIRT IS A HEALTHY THING TO BE ON THE GROUND.

AND GRASS ON THE GROUND IS A GOOD THING.

AND BEES AND BUTTERFLIES AND OUR WHOLE, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENT IS, IS A PART OF THE EQUATION HERE TOO AND SHOULD BE CONSIDERED.

AND YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE SOME QUIET AROUND THE TOWN AND WHETHER I'M WORKING AND I SIT BY A WINDOW OR WHETHER I GO ON MY DECK, 'CAUSE I WANNA JUST BE OUTSIDE AND ENJOY IT, IT'S REALLY HARD WHEN THERE'S ALWAYS A LEAF BLOWER SOMEWHERE GOING OFF.

OR WHEN I'M WALKING WITH MY KIDS OR MY DOG OR MY HUSBAND OR A FRIEND AND WANNA HAVE CONVERSATION, IT'S LIKE, IT'S ALL THE TIME AND IT'S NOISY AND IT'S DIRTY AND

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I DON'T WANT IT THERE.

UM, AND I WOULD LOVE A BAND FOR TWO MONTHS.

IT WOULD MAKE IT MUCH MORE PLEASANT PLACE TO LIVE.

MANY, MANY, MANY COMMUNITIES ALL OVER OUR COUNTRY ARE HAVE DONE SUMMER BANDS.

IT'S NOT UNHEARD OF.

DOESN'T MAKE THE AIR CONDITIONER STOP WORKING.

IT DOESN'T MAKE PEOPLE'S HOMES LIKE CRAZY A MESS THAT THEY CAN'T FUNCTION.

UM, THERE'S A MENTION SEVERAL MENTIONS OF POOLS.

I DON'T THINK MOST GREENBERG RESIDENTS HAVE POOLS TO WORRY ABOUT ANYWAY, BUT I THINK, AND YOU KNOW, A BROOM AND A RAKE ARE GREAT TOOLS.

I MEAN, THERE, THERE'S ALSO OBESITY, RIGHT? LET'S TALK ABOUT, THAT'S ANOTHER THING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WORRY ABOUT HEALTH.

IT'S HEALTHY TO RAKE, IT'S HEALTHY TO USE A BROOM.

IT FEELS GOOD TO CLEAN SOMETHING UP.

I LIKE SWEEPING A FLOOR.

I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE WORST THING IN THE WORLD FOR TWO MONTHS FOR PEOPLE TO ENJOY BEING OUTDOORS AND, AND ENJOYING THEIR SPACE AND KEEPING IT A LITTLE BIT CLEAN OR WHATEVER THEY WANNA DO.

UM, AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT THAT'S REALLY, UM, A PROBLEM.

IT, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE.

UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY WAS REALLY THAT I THINK A GREEN LAWN.

I KNOW THE LANDSCAPING INDUSTRY, I KNOW YOU GUYS LOVE IT AND I GREW UP LOVING A GREEN LAWN, BUT THE REALITY IS IT'S A DEAD LAWN.

IT DOESN'T PROVIDE ANY VALUE FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT.

UM, IT'S NOT GOOD.

THE, THE CHEMICALS WE PUT ON MOST OF THE GREEN LAWNS TO KEEP THEM GREEN OR THE MOSQUITO KILLER THAT WE SEND OUT PEOPLE SPRAY IS DAMAGING TO OUR CHILDREN OR IT'S DAMAGING TO THE BEES, THE BUTTERFLIES, THE ANIMALS, THE PLANTS, EVERYTHING.

IT'S NOT GOOD FOR ANYTHING.

SO WHY WOULD WE CONTINUE DOING THINGS THAT AREN'T REALLY GOOD FOR US? I MEAN, I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A BAND AND TO ENJOY THE QUIET.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN STILL CLEAN UP AND USE THEIR BROOMS IN THEIR RAKES WHEN THEY, IF THEY FEEL THAT THEY NEED TO AND WHERE THEY'RE ALLOWED TO USE, UM, YOU KNOW, BLOWERS AS YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED AND YOU KNOW, PREVIOUSLY THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A LOT OF COMMUNITIES DOING THIS FOR A GOOD REASON.

AND I, AND I WOULD HOPE THAT WE AS GREENBERG WOULD BE ABLE TO BE FORWARD THINKING AND, AND DO WHAT'S BEST FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND OUR TOWN.

AND, AND I THINK THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY, IT'S TAKING EVERYBODY'S POINT OF VIEW, BUT I THINK REALLY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT JUST THE LOUDEST VOICE OR THE LOUDEST NUMBER OF VOICES IN THE ROOM.

UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION SCIENCE AND WHAT'S BEST, UM, FOR, FOR OUR TOWN GOING FORWARD.

THANK YOU, MANNY.

HI, UH, MY NAME IS MANNY URIS.

I'M A RESIDENT OF TUNI PA HILL.

UM, I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING BECAUSE, UM, AND I'M MAKING SHORT BECAUSE I HAVE TO LEAVE.

I JUST GOT A CALL TO LEAVE.

BUT, UH, THERE, THERE ARE BROUGHT CONCERNS ABOUT THIS ISSUE OF AIR QUALITY AND AT EVERY DIFFERENT LEVELS, YOU KNOW, THE LEVELS FOR AUTOMOBILES LEVELS, UH, THAT, AND THERE ARE MANY.

UM, BUT I REALLY WANT THE DATA TO BE CLEAR AND, AND TO BE EFFECTIVE TO, THEY COULD BECOME REALLY CONVINCING.

I DID A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH ON MY OWN ABOUT THIS, THIS WHOLE IDEA OF, OF PARTICULATES, THERE ARE DIFFERENT TYPES OF PARTICULATES AND THEY AFFECT PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT WAYS.

AND I, AND, AND, AND IF WE JUST PUT A BROAD STROKE ON, ON THE ALL TYPES OF PARTICULATES BEING BAD FOR YOU, THEN WE START MISSING THE POINT.

THE POINT BEING IS THAT THERE ARE SOME STUFF THAT, OF COURSE, ENVIRONMENTAL, WHEN YOU HAVE AN A A RESPIRATORY ISSUE, IT REALLY AFFECTS YOU WHEN YOU GET CLOSE TO A BLOWER.

BUT THE PARTICULARS THAT ARE REALLY BAD FOR YOU ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CALLED PM 2.5.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT AFFECT YOU, YOUR LUNGS DEEPLY.

THE OTHER ONES ARE AFFECT ONLY THE TOP PARTS OF YOUR LUNG.

AND YOU THROUGH YOUR BREATHING, YOU BREATHE THEM BACK OUT.

SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TALK ABOUT THE RIGHT WAY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN REALLY BE CONVINCED WHAT IS APPROPRIATE AND WHAT IS NOT APPROPRIATE.

A LOT OF THE, A LOT OF THE PARTICULATES THAT BEING REFERRED HERE, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK BY THE WAY.

IT'S, UH, PARTICULATES THAT ARE, ARE HEAVIER AND THEY MIGHT STAY IN THE AIR FOR A LONG TIME DURING CERTAIN TIME OF THE YEAR, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE ONES THAT CAUSE DAMAGE.

AND I GOTTA HERE HAVE A LIST OF THE TH THREE, THREE MAIN PARTICULATES THAT CAUSE PERMANENT RESPIRATORY DAMAGE AND, AND THAT SHOULD BE CONTROLLED.

ROAD DUST.

NUMBER ONE, WOODBURN STOVES AND RESIDENTIAL NUMBER TWO AND FIRES, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DO A BARBECUE AND ANYTHING, THOSE ARE THE PARTICULARS THAT YOU BREED.

A LOT OF THE OTHER STUFF COMES CAN TRAVEL AS FAR AS 4,000, 4,000 KILOMETERS.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE STUFF THAT MIGHT BE COMING FROM

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NOW I THINK THERE HAS TO BE A COMPROMISE.

I THINK PEOPLE SHOULD DEAL WITH EACH OTHER IN A WAY THAT DOESN'T INF AFFECT PEOPLE'S LIVES OR QUALITY TIME.

BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE HAVE TO BE CLEAR THAT ALL TYPES OF PARTICULAR DON'T HAVE THE SAME IMPACT ON OTHER PEOPLE.

I WANT TO ALSO MENTION THAT A BUNCH OF COMMUNITIES IN GREENBURG ARE FACED WITH THE DUST FROM THE HIGHWAYS AND THE NOISE FROM THE HIGHWAYS.

AND WE SHOULD DO MORE TO MITIGATE THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE THEY ARE, THEY ARE BEING AFFECTED ON A, A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS.

AND YES, YES, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, THE YARDS WITH THE POOLS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THERE ARE COMMUNITIES IN GREENBURG THAT I SIT NEXT TO THE HIGHWAY AND THEN GET CONSTANT BOMBARDED CONSTANTLY WITH, WITH THE, THOSE TYPE OF PARTICULATES FROM CARS, FROM DUST.

AND WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE, THOSE ISSUES ARE ALSO TAKEN CARE OF.

YES, I FEEL FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEIR BREATHING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, AND I THINK THAT THE COST THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO, TO THE RESIDENTS DUE TO A LAW THAT FOR THAT IT, IT CUTS ACROSS ALL, ALL USAGE.

MIGHT, MIGHT, MIGHT BE AS, AS BAD AS ONE THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AND THEIR NEEDS AS A WHOLE.

AND THANK YOU.

YOU SHOULD LOOK AT THE, THE SCIENTIFIC, YOU SHOULD LOOK MORE INTO THE SCIENTIFIC, UM, BASIS FOR THE TYPE OF PARTICULARS WE'RE TRYING TO CONTROL, UM, UH, IN THIS TYPE OF SITUATION.

THANK YOU MARY BOWDEN.

MY NAME, MY NAME IS BARRY POTEN ON MY CARD THAT SAYS TRUST NOTHING.

I WRITE, CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF.

WHY SHOULD YOU BELIEVE ME? SOMEBODY RAISED THE QUESTION, ARE WE GONNA GIVE UP CARS? THE ANSWER IS YES.

GASOLINE POWERED CARS, DIESEL CARS WILL BE OFF THE ROAD WITHIN A LIFETIME OF MY GRANDCHILDREN IN CALIFORNIA.

THERE WILL BE NO INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINES USING FOSSIL FUEL SOLD WITHIN 10 YEARS.

WHY DON'T WE HAVE IT ALL NOW? BECAUSE IT TAKES TIME TO BUILD THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO DISTRIBUTE WHAT WILL REPLACE FOSSIL FUELS.

THEY JUST PASSED A LAW IN WESTCHESTER THAT ALL NEW HOUSES WILL HAVE TO BE ELECTRIC.

WHAT THOSE SALES, THOSE AUTOMOBILE SALES DEALERSHIPS THAT WE'RE BUILDING ALL OVER TOWN ESSENTIALLY WILL BE OBSOLETE FOR THE MOST PART.

THOSE BUILDINGS ARE GONNA BE MOSTLY EMPTY.

THE ELECTRIC CAR, THEY COME TO YOUR HOUSE AND THEY FIX IT IN FRONT OF YOUR HOUSE, THE MAINTENANCE ON IT, THE BATTERIES.

THERE'LL BE 42 DIFFERENT KINDS OF BATTERIES RIGHT NOW YOU TALK ABOUT THE TESLA BATTERY.

WELL, TESLA HAS A HALF A DOZEN DIFFERENT BATTERIES FOR DIFFERENT USES.

IF YOU GO 20 MILES A DAY AND YOU CHARGE IT AT NIGHT, YOU'LL HAVE A BATTERY THAT'S QUITE SMALL.

IF YOU GO A LONG DISTANCE, THEY WON'T CHARGE YOUR BATTERY, THEY'LL CHANGE IT.

YOU'LL DRIVE INTO A STATION, BATTERY SLIDES OUT, SLIDES SOMEBODY ELSE'S BATTERY INTO IT.

YES, DOGS AND CATS WILL STILL BE AROUND, BUT BEEF CATTLE MAY NOT BE.

IT HAS BEEN REALIZED THAT THE AMOUNT OF POLLUTION CAUSED BY THE USE OF BEEF CATTLE AND WHAT IT TAKES TO FEED THEM, WHAT IT TAKES TO MAINTAIN THEM AND EVERYTHING ELSE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE CONSUMPTION OF BEEF GO DOWN DRAMATICALLY IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY SEEN IT.

CHANGING WORLD PEOPLE.

AH,

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JOE, WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT LAW.

YOU WROTE THE LEAF.

WHAT ARE THESE IN REGARD TO LEAF BLOWERS? THE LEAFBLOWER LAW? YEAH, WE, WE WE'VE, BECAUSE I I'VE HAD SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT IT, BUT THE PROBLEM IS WITHIN FIVE YEARS A MACHINE WILL WRITE THAT LAW AND YOU'LL JUST REVIEW IT.

AM I WRONG? WE'LL SEE.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOSING JOBS, GREENBERG'S GONNA LOSE, JOE'S GONNA REVIEW A LAW WRITTEN BY SOMEBODY ELSE, BY A MACHINE, RIGHT? HEY, WE TALK, WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE.

AND AS TO BEING IN BUSINESS AND LOSING YOUR BUSINESS.

YEAH, MY FAMILY, THE BODEN FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THE CLOTHES CLEANING BUSINESS FOR ALMOST A HUNDRED YEARS.

I, MY SON IS THE FOURTH GENERATION OF CLEANING PEOPLE'S CLOTHES.

GUESS WHAT? OUR INDUSTRY IS DISAPPEARING.

OUR INDUSTRY IS DISAPPEARING AND YOUR INDUSTRY IS DISAPPEARING AND HIS INDUSTRY IS DISAPPEARING.

WELCOME TO THE WORLD OF LESS RESOURCES.

I'LL BE DEAD BEFORE MOST OF THIS.

I GOT A WHEELCHAIR, I GOT ELECTRIC WHEELCHAIR COMING.

I CAN STAND UP HERE MOSTLY CAN HOLD ON.

YOU'LL FIND A LOT OF THINGS I'VE SAID AND MADE MISTAKES 'CAUSE I CAN'T KEEP IT STRAIGHT ANYMORE.

I CAN'T FIND THE WORDS PEOPLE THAT I KNOW FOR YEARS AND YEARS.

I HAVE TO ASK WHO ARE YOU SORRY GUYS.

THAT'S THE WAY IT IS.

I WAS SPEAKING TO THIS YOUNG LADY HERE, UH, BECAUSE I SUGGESTED THAT SHE DIDN'T HAVE TO WEAR HIGH SHOES.

AND WHY DO I SUGGEST THAT? BECAUSE AS I GET OLDER AND I HAVE TO WALK UP THE STAIRS, I'VE NOTICED IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT THERE ARE TWO RAILINGS WHERE THERE USED TO BE ONE, THERE'S A HIGH ONE AND AN OLD ONE.

SO SHORT P YOU NOTICE IT TOO.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME MR. BO.

I COULDN'T DO THIS WITHOUT A LOT OF P PEOPLE TEACHING ME THIS.

I'M NOT THAT SMART.

OKAY? THERESA MAORI.

I, I JUST WANTED TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE MISCONCEPTIONS THAT HAVE GONE ON TONIGHT.

I NO TIME HAS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG C A C EVER ADVOCATED, ELIMINATING BLOWERS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE YEAR.

I REALIZED THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE WHO ASSOCIATE THEMSELVES WITH TRYING TO HELP THE ENVIRONMENT THAT GO TOO FAR IN MY OPINION.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THE C A C AND GREENBERG DOES IS WE ARE VERY THOUGHTFUL AND WE REALLY LOOK INTO THINGS.

I KNOW THERE ARE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ALL USE ELECTRIC, ELECTRIC BLOWERS.

AND WHEN WE RESEARCHED IN 2020 THE WIND SPEEDS AND THE SOUND LEVELS ON ELECTRIC BLOWERS, THEY WERE VERY SIMILAR TO GAS BLOWERS WITH THIS DIFFERENCE THAT THEY'RE IMPRACTICAL FOR A, A PROFESSIONAL GARDENING CREW TO USE.

AND WE WERE SENSITIZED TO THAT AND WE, WE ASKED OUR OWN GARDENERS, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE THOUGHT? WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS ON UM, A BATTERY PACK? AND WHAT WE HEARD WAS WE'D HAVE TO DRIVE AROUND WITH 10 BATTERY PACKS.

AND WE SAID, WELL THAT'S NOT SOMETHING ANYONE REASONABLY COULD ASK.

AND I WANTED TO REALLY HAVE FOLKS UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I FEEL THAT SOME OF YOUR REACTIONS ARE NOT, ARE COMING FROM WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER PLACES.

AND IT WAS NEVER SOMETHING THAT WE WHO WANT THIS BAND FOR THE SUMMER WE'RE PROPOSING.

AND I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT BECAUSE I DON'T SEE HOW AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME YOU CAN GET THE LEAVES UP AND DO SPRING CLEANUP WITHOUT A GUEST POWER BLOWER.

I DON'T SEE THAT PRACTICALLY HAPPENING.

AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING, AND WE ALL DO.

WE SIT, WE DO SCIENCE AND WE DO PRACTICALITY IN GREENBURG.

AND I KNOW THAT ISN'T WHAT HAPPENS IN MANY ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS.

AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN I SAY WE DID RESEARCH ON THIS, ON THE HEALTH ISSUES THAT'S BEEN GOING ON LITERALLY FOR CLOSE TO 20 YEARS AND THE FIRST TIME I DID THIS, I WAS SURPRISED 'CAUSE WE WERE ASKED ON NOISE AND IT'S LIKE HOW DO YOU GO BACK WHEN SOMEONE'S TALKING ABOUT NOISE AND SAYING THAT'S THE LEAST OF THE PROBLEMS. SO ONE OF THE THINGS IS I WANT TO REALLY HAVE YOU UNDERSTAND THAT WE THINK LITHIUM BATTERIES ARE VERY DANGEROUS.

GREENBERG HAS A VERY

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EXTENSIVE BATTERY LORE THAT HAS TO DO WITH LARGE BATTERIES.

'CAUSE WE RECOGNIZE IN GREENBURG THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE, WHETHER IT'S ON A HOUSE IN, IN A STANDALONE, ON A SHOPPING CENTER OR A REALLY BIG HUGE ONE THAT'S, YOU KNOW, DOING SELLING POWER BACK TO CONED.

SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE NOT ASSOCIATED WITH IN TERMS OF THE COST IN THE SUMMER.

I WOULD ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT TALKING AND MAYBE SOME OF YOU ARE DOING PROPERTIES WHERE PEOPLE ARE NOT HAVING LEAF BLOWERS USED.

AND ASK YOURSELF, FIND OUT WHAT'S THE ALTERNATIVE THERE BECAUSE I KNOW I DON'T HAVE A BLOWER USED ON MY PROPERTY.

I KNOW GEORGE DOESN'T.

UM, I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE REALLY PRACTICAL ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT SOMETHING CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT LIKE THINKING ABOUT IT AND REALLY REACTING TO WHAT WE'RE SAYING.

AND WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT BANNING LAWNMOWERS BECAUSE I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THE RATIONALE FOR BANNING A LAWNMOWER WAS.

SO I THINK THEY WERE TALKING APPLES AND ORANGES AND THAT HAS NEVER BEEN, THE INTENTION HAS NEVER BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE GREENBERG C A C TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

GUYS, AM I OFF ON THIS? WE JUST NEVER HAVE TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE LEAF BLOWERS BECAUSE WE SEE A REAL HEALTH ISSUE WITH THE LEAF BLOWERS.

WE SEE THIS HEALTH ISSUE BEING WORSE IN THE SUMMER MONTHS, WHICH ALSO BALANCES OUT WITH THE TIME OF YEAR WHEN WE HAVE THE LEASE NEED FOR A LEAF BLOWER.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE THING.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FINDING THAT COMPROMISE POINT IN THE COMMUNITY WHERE SOMEONE WHO HAS ASTHMA OR IS AFRAID FOR THEIR CHILDREN HAVE A PERIOD IN THE SUMMER MONTHS WHEN THEY WANNA BE OUTSIDE THAT THEY CAN BE SAFELY OUTSIDE.

SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN KIND OF FIND A PLACE WHERE WE CAN ALL MEET AND LOOK AT A TRIAL AND SEE HOW DIFFICULT OR IT IS OR ISN'T TO WORK.

AND WE MAY FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THE BAGS, THE REALITY IS THAT MOST PEOPLE NOW HAVE THE REUSABLE BAG.

AND AGAIN, SOMETHING WE DID EXTENSIVE STUDIES ON BECAUSE WE DID NOT ADVOCATE PAPER BAGS 'CAUSE THERE WAS HARMFUL AS PLASTIC BAGS ON AN ENVIRONMENTAL LEVEL.

SO WE DO RESEARCH, WE DON'T WANT TO PUT PEOPLE OUTTA BUSINESS.

WE'RE NOT, I MEAN, I THOUGHT THE NO, NO MOWING AND THE LAWN WAS A PRETTY SILLY THING TO BE VERY HONEST.

SO THANK YOU.

I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR THE LANDSCAPING INDUSTRY.

YOU KNOW, ARE WE DONE WITH THE SPEAKER? WE HAVE, THERE ARE NO FURTHER REQUESTS TO SPEAK ON, ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

ON, ON THIS, ON MY LIST.

I JUST HAVE, BUT, BUT I SEE A HAND IN THE BACK.

SO PAUL, DO YOU WANT TO RECOGNIZE THIS, UH, WOMAN IN THE BACK WHO HAS INDICATED SHE'D LIKE TO SPEAK? YEAH.

AND THEN I HAD JUST ONE QUESTION.

I I CAN ASK THE QUESTION.

THE QUESTION IS, WOULD IT BE POSS THERE'S SOME COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, LEAF BLOWER LAWS THAT ARE STRONGER THAN GREENBERGS.

WOULD IT BE POSSIBLE, UH, FOR THE INDUSTRY, UH, TO GIVE US SOME COMPARISONS IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'RE CHARGING, SAY A QUARTER ACRE OF PROPERTY, SAY IN SCARSDALE COMPARED TO WHAT YOU'RE CHARGING SAY, A QUARTER ACRE PROPERTY IN, YOU KNOW, IN IN GREENBURG THAT WOULD BE SORT OF EQUIVALENT BECAUSE I WOULD BE SORT OF CURIOUS, UH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW SCARSDALE HAS A VERY STRONG, YOU KNOW, STRONG LAW.

UM, AND THEY BASICALLY ARE, WELL THEY HAVE A, A STRONGER LAWYER THAN GREENBURG.

AND, AND BASICALLY THEY'VE BEEN ENFORCING THE LAW.

AND I'M JUST SORT OF CURIOUS WHAT DEPENDS, DEPENDS ON THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY, HOW MANY LEADS, HOW BIG THE PROPERTY IS.

BUT IS THERE A WAY OF, UH, 25 TO 50%, ALL THIS IS 25 OR 50, 25 TO 50%.

ALRIGHT.

ALL RIGHT.

SO DO YOU KNOW HIS NAME? MINE? YEAH.

YOU'RE YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN UNINCORPORATED.

YOU CAN PROCEED.

OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS STILL TALKING.

MY NAME IS ARLENE MCDUFFY.

I LIVE IN ELMSFORD, NEW YORK.

I PREVIOUSLY SPOKE ABOUT THIS ISSUE AND UM, I'M STILL AGAINST IT.

I'M A HOME OWNER.

I'M A HOME OWNER IN ELMSFORD.

I'VE LIVED IN THE SAME HOME FOR, EXCUSE ME, IF I COULD, ARE YOU, ARE YOU SAYING YOU'RE A RESIDENT OF THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD OR THE AREA OF UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT HAS AN ELMSFORD POST OFFICE.

I'M IN GREENBURG, BUT THE SECTION OF ELMSFORD, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

SHE'S IN UNINCORPORATED.

YOU GREENBURG? YES.

CAN YOU USE THE TOWN POOL? YES.

SO, SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY IN GREENBURG.

NOT IN ELMSFORD.

YOU JUST HAVE A POST OF, OKAY.

YEAH, THAT'S THE POST I I WAS GONNA STOP YOU.

'CAUSE IF YOU'RE IN THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD, THIS DOESN'T MATTER TO YOU BECAUSE IT'S, THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LAWS.

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CAN I RECLAIM MY TIME? SURE.

, YES.

SO I, I, WE, I SPOKE ABOUT THIS BEFORE AND, UM, I, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS.

SO YOU WANT TO DO SOMETHING TEMPORARY IN THE SUMMER WHEN THE CLAIM IS THAT LEAF BLOWERS AREN'T USED? I'M NOT QUITE SURE HOW THAT WORKS FOR THE ISSUE THAT, THAT, UM, IS AT HAND.

UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE FIRST COMPLAINT WAS ABOUT NOISE.

I GET THAT.

BUT IT DOES SEEM LIKE THINGS ARE BEING TAGGED ON AS WE GO.

UM, AS A HOMEOWNER, I LIKE MY HOUSE TO LOOK RIGHT.

I LIKE MY HOUSE TO LOOK GOOD.

NOT JUST ON THE INSIDE, BUT ON THE OUTSIDE.

SO WHEN YOU DRIVE BY, YOU GO, OOH, WHO LIVES THERE? I GO, ME .

YOU KNOW, I, I, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR ME TO HAVE MY PLACE LOOK A CERTAIN WAY.

I DO NOT USE A LEAF BLOWER TO CLEAN MY YARD TO OFFEND YOU.

IN FACT, I USE THAT.

I USE A LAWNMOWER TO, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, TO IMPRESS YOU.

IF MY HOUSE LOOKS LIKE THIS, THEN YOUR HOUSE SHOULD BE COMPARABLE TO MY HOUSE.

YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING? I'M NOT A LANDSCAPER, BUT I TRY TO DO IT MYSELF.

'CAUSE I CAN'T AFFORD JOBS.

BUT IF THIS GOES INTO EFFECT, AND LIKE THESE GENTLEMEN SAID, WHO ARE THE BUSINESS OWNERS? THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO CHARGE MORE, WHICH MEANS MY NEIGHBORS WHO DO USE LANDSCAPERS WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THEM.

I THINK IT'S AN UNREASONABLE RULE.

UM, I STILL AM ASKING THE SAME QUESTION.

YOU'RE GONNA START CHARGING, UM, RESIDENTS 100 TO $500.

WHERE IS THAT MONEY GONNA GO? WE GONNA PULL THAT MONEY TOGETHER, AND THEN WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A, UM, POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE JUST LISTED AS LEAF BLOWER PATROL.

SO THEY'RE GONNA COME BY AND SNEAK OUT OF THE WOOD, JUST SO UP YOU'RE USING A LEAF BLOWER.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

IT REALLY, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I GET IT THAT THERE ARE RULES OUT THERE NOW WHERE YOU CAN'T SMOKE IN CERTAIN AREAS, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T DO IT IN RESTAURANTS.

YOU CAN'T DO IT IN HOTELS.

I'M A CIGARETTE SMOKER.

I SMOKE IN MY HOUSE.

I USE A LEAF BLOWER IN MY HOUSE, IN MY YARD.

I'M NOT USING IT IN YOUR YARD.

SO WHEN THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO ARE WALKING DOWN THE STREET AND YOU'RE OFFENDED BECAUSE I'M CLEANING MY YARD, I'M NOT BLOWING IT AT YOU.

I'M CLEANING IT TO HAVE MY HOME LOOK A CERTAIN WAY.

WHAT WE, YOU KNOW, LATER ON DECIDE THAT BESIDES THIS TIMEFRAME AND THE TIMES THAT YOU'RE SAYING, YOU CAN DO IT ON A MONDAY, BUT NOT ON A TUESDAY, YOU CAN DO IT AT TWO O'CLOCK, BUT NOT AT THREE O'CLOCK.

WILL WE ALSO START DOING THAT WHEN NEIGHBORS WANT TO TAKE A WALK UP? YOUR NEIGHBOR WANTS TO TAKE A WALK AT FIVE.

YOU CAN'T DO THAT.

YOUR NEIGHBOR'S WALKING THE DOG AT TWO 30.

YOU CAN'T DO IT THEN EITHER.

WHEN DOES THE RULE STOP? YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE IDEA OF ME, AND I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR ME, RIGHT? THE WHOLE IDEA OF OWNING A HOME IS TO DO WHAT I WANT.

SO I WANNA PAINT MY WALLS WHITE.

I WANNA KEEP MY GRASS SHORT.

I WANT MY MY HEDGES TO LOOK, YOU KNOW, ANGLED OR WHATEVER.

I SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.

BUT TO TELL ME NOW THAT I CAN'T DO WHAT I WANT IN MY YARD, BUT D P W CAN, RIGHT? ALL THESE OTHER PEOPLE CAN, BUT WE CAN'T.

YOU'RE STILL PENALIZING THE HOMEOWNER.

AND I'M JUST ASKING THAT YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION.

YOU KNOW, TAKE THESE GENTLEMEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

IT'S GONNA BE TAXING ON THEM AS WELL.

UM, HOW MUCH TIME DO I HAVE? SO FOR, FOR EXAMPLE, CARS, RIGHT? SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, CARS ARE GONNA BE GONE.

WELL, CARS AREN'T GONNA BE GONE.

THEY ARE GONNA BE THERE, BUT THEY'RE AN ALTERNATIVE TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

CARS THAT USED TO MAKE NOISE IN THE PAST, WE NOW HAVE MUFFLER THAT MAKE 'EM QUIETER.

YOU'RE NOT GIVING US AN ALTERNATIVE.

YOU'RE SAYING DON'T USE THEM.

I'VE SPENT MONEY ON MY, MY LEAF BLOWER.

WHAT DO I DO WITH THAT? THEN? DO WE TURN THAT INTO YOU GUYS LIKE WHAT YOU DO WITH GUNS AND WE WILL GET A REIMBURSEMENT? HOW DOES THAT WORK? I'M JUST ASKING AS A RESIDENT, PLEASE CONSIDER, BUT THESE GENTLEMEN SAY WHAT A HOMEOWNER.

I I HAVE A, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ANY OF THE PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPERS, WHAT MAKES A LANDSCAPER A PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPER LICENSING? WE TAKE, WE TAKE, I JUST WANT TO GET THIS DOWN BECAUSE IT WAS ALL 'CAUSE IT WAS ALL ALSO THAT IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT LICENSED.

I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT.

UM, BE I WANT YOU TO LIMIT THAT SPECIFIC QUESTION.

TO BE A PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPER, WE HAVE TO BE LICENSED WESTCHESTER COUNTY LICENSE CONSUMER

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AFFAIRS LICENSE.

THOSE OF US THAT APPLY PESTICIDES OR CHEMICALS HAVE TO TAKE CONTINUING ED OF 10 HOURS EVERY TWO YEARS TO CERTIFY OUR LICENSE.

US AS AN ORGANIZATION OR ORGANIZATION, WE RUN ONCE A MONTH A SEMINAR TO UPDATE OUR MEMBERS AND EDUCATE 'EM.

WE RUN SEMINARS, HOW TO USE GAS POWER BLOWERS PROPERLY, HOW TO PRUNE PROPERLY, HOW TO SPREAD FERTILIZER PROPERLY SO IT DOESN'T GET INTO OUR WATER SYSTEM.

SO THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.

A PRESSURE LANDSCAPER.

UH, THESE PEOPLE THAT DO IT PART-TIME AFTER WORK, A LOT OF 'EM AREN'T LICENSED AND REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING.

WE DO IT FOR A LIVING.

WE EARN OUR LIVING, WE WORK HARD AT IT, AND IT, IT'S A VERY PROFESSIONAL, LIKE A PROFESSIONAL PLUMBER.

LIKE A PROFESSIONAL ELECTRICIAN.

SO I, I GET THE ANSWER IS IF, IF OUR ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL SEE THE LICENSE, THE STICKER ON THE VEHICLE, THAT MAKES THEM A PROFESSIONAL LINE SCRAPER.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT.

UM, THANK YOU.

NOW, I LEARNED A LOT BY LISTENING TO EVERYBODY, AND THAT'S WHAT A PUBLIC HEARING IS ABOUT.

AND I REALLY APPRECIATE THOSE OF YOU WHO SHOWED RESPECT FOR EVERYONE AND PEOPLE UP HERE AND EVERYONE ELSE IN, IN THE AUDIENCE, BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S MUCH EASIER TO HEAR, UM, THE RESPECTFUL AND FACTUAL DISCOURSE.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE, WE ARE HERE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON THE FEEDBACK WE GET FROM YOU.

SO THANK YOU PARTICULARLY ON AN ISSUE LIKE THIS WHERE THERE'S PROBABLY NO RIGHT ANSWER.

THAT'S WHY THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES.

UH, UH, LES ADLER, WHO'S NOW A SUPREME COURT JUDGE, WHO WAS ON THE BOARD FOR QUITE A LONG TIME WHEN HE WAS COMING OFF THE BOARD AND GOING OVER TO BE A JUDGESHIP, UH, WHAT WAS THE MOST FRUSTRATING PART OF BEING A COUNCIL MEMBER? LEAF LEAF BLOWERS.

BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, I'M ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED 50% ARE GONNA LIKE IT.

50% ARE NOT GONNA LIKE IT, WHICH IS WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW.

AND THAT'S WHY THIS IS, THIS IS TOUGH.

IT'S A TOUGH DECISION.

AND I APPRECIATE, UH, AS COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICK SAID, UM, THAT WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE THIS DIS DISCUSSION ON A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.

AND I'M SURE EVERYBODY HAS GOOD INTENTIONS.

AND, UM, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY.

THE C A C DID NOT COMPARE A LEAF BLOWER TO A GUN.

THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT THE SPEED OF THE PARTICULATES AND HOW THEY TRAVEL.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THEY GOT THE SPEED FOR A BULLET.

'CAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE CALIBER AND THE FIREARM THAT'S USED, BUT THAT THEY WERE NOT COMPARING IN ANY WAY, UM, THE FIREARM TO A LEAF BLOWER.

JUST THE SPEED.

UH, AND ANOTHER THING IS, SOMEBODY MADE THE COMMENT, YOU'RE TRYING TO SNEAK THIS IN.

DID I MENTION LES ADLER? THIS HAS BEEN AROUND FOREVER.

WE'VE GONE THROUGH, I, WE'VE STOPPED NAMING, NUMBERING THE DRAFTS.

THERE'S BEEN SO MANY DRAFTS OF TRYING TO WORK THIS THING OUT.

AND SO, UH, THERE'S NO SNEAKING AT ALL.

I MEAN, WE, THE SUPERVISOR PUTS OUT THE ANNOUNCEMENTS ABOUT IT, PUTS OUT WHAT THE LOCAL LAWS ARE.

WE'RE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING THAT'S RIGHT WHEN THERE MAY NOT BE A PARTICULAR RIGHT THERE, THERE NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF COMPROMISE, AND THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT.

BUT I APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE CALIBER OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT.

UH, PARTICULARLY THE LATTER PART.

UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S FOR US TO DECIDE DO WE CONTINUE THIS OR DO WE, WHAT DO YOU SUGGEST? TOWN ATTORNEY, I SUGGEST WE CONTINUE THIS ON THE AGENDA THAT WAS PUBLISHED.

WE DID MAKE NOTE THAT THE HEARING WOULD BE CONTINUED, AND I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT IF SOMEONE DID WANT TO ENTER INFORMATION INTO THE RECORD, THEY MAY NOT HAVE ATTENDED TONIGHT KNOWING THAT THEY COULD ATTEND ON THE MAY 24TH MEETING.

ON, UH, YOU KNOW, TONIGHT.

COULD YOU ALSO, UM, UH, SINCE WE HAVE TB ONE ON THE AGENDA TODAY, WHICH, UH, DEALS WITH THE COMPROMISE IDEA, WHICH WE THOUGHT OF, YOU KNOW, AT THE LAST MEETING, UM, THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBERG ENTITLED NOISE AS IT RELATES TO LETHAM GARDEN BLOWERS.

COULD YOU, SINCE EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY TWO PARTS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.

ONE WAS THE NOISE, UM, WHICH IS, WHICH IS A SIGNIFICANT ACTION.

MAYBE YOU COULD JUST SUMMARIZE WHAT THE BOARD'S GOING TO BE VOTING

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SO THAT PUBLIC HEARING WAS TWO WEEKS AGO TODAY, AND I KNOW MANY OF THE GENTLEMEN IN ATTENDANCE HERE TONIGHT WE'RE AT THAT MEETING AS WELL AND VOICE THEIR OPINION ABOUT THAT LAW THAT AMENDS THE NOISE ORDINANCE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

IT DOES NOT CREATE A NEW CHAPTER, SPECIFICALLY DISCUSSING ANY LEAF BLOWERS.

AND WHAT THE CHANGES SUGGEST ARE THAT THE DECIBEL LEVELS THAT ARE ALLOWED BASED ON LEAF BLOWERS, LAWNMOWERS AND CONSTRUCTION TOOLS APPLY TO NOT ONLY RESIDENTIAL AREAS, EXCUSE ME, NOT ONLY COMMERCIAL AREAS, BUT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS AS WELL.

THERE WOULD ALSO BE A PROVISION THAT WOULD LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF GAS BLOWERS, UH, LEAF BLOWERS, EXCUSE ME, ALL LEAF BLOWERS TO ONE LEAF BLOWER FOR A 10,000 OR LESS SQUARE FOOT LOT.

AND IT WOULD ALSO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF LEAFBLOWER BLOWERS TO FOUR, NO MATTER WHAT SIZE PARCEL THAT LAND MAY BE.

UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS COULD BE ENFORCED BY THE POLICE.

AND THE CURRENT NOISE ORDINANCE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN EFFECT HAS ENFORCEMENT BY THE POLICE AND SPECIFIC PENALTIES SET FORTH.

WE WOULDN'T BE CHANGING ANY OF THAT.

UM, SO THAT HEARING WAS CLOSED.

WE KEPT THE RECORD OPEN FOR A WEEK, AND THE BOARD WILL BE VOTING ON WHETHER TO ACCEPT THAT CHANGE THAT ALSO DOES NOT HAVE A SUNSET PROVISION, UNLIKE THIS LAW PRESENTED TONIGHT.

IT WOULD JUST APPLY FOR THE TWO MONTHS THIS COMING YEAR.

WELL, THAT RIGHT, THAT WILL, THE, THE NOISE LAW.

I MEAN, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION OR ASK THE BOARD, BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, IT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MAY, SOME PEOPLE MAY BE CONFUSED AND FEEL, OH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HAVING, UM, WE'RE EXTENDING THE HEARING FOR THE, THE JULY AND AUGUST ISSUE, AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'LL READ IN THE PAPER TOMORROW THAT WE PASS SOMETHING THAT PERTAINS TO, UH, NOISE AND LEAF BLOWERS.

AND I'M WONDERING, IT SEEMED LIKE, UH, THERE WAS A CONSENT THAT THERE WASN'T MUCH OPPOSITION TO YOU THAT CHANGE.

UM, AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY, IF ANYBODY YOU KNOW, HAS ANY MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT YOUR DEATH PROPOSAL? WELL, WE, WE DID CLOSE THAT HEARING, SO THIS WOULD BE PART OF THIS RECORD.

I'M JUST WONDERING.

JUST BECAUSE OTHERWISE PEOPLE ARE GONNA FEEL THAT WE'RE SNEAKING SOMETHING IN WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT IT.

THERE WAS NO SNEAKING ABOUT IT.

NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S CONFUSING WHEN YOU DO ONE LAW YEAH.

THAT RELATES TO LEAVES AND THEN YOU VOTE ON IT AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER ONE.

AND PEOPLE, I THINK PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED.

AND THE ACTION WE WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING TONIGHT IS A SIGNIFICANT ACTION ALSO.

AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A MATTER OF COURTESY TO EVERYBODY, PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW THAT THERE'S GONNA BE AT LEAST A VOTE THAT'S GONNA BE DEALING WITH NOISE IMPACTING LEAF FLOWS.

BUT DON'T YOU THINK IT'S GONNA BE CONFUSING NOT CLOSING THIS HEARING? NO, I'M NOT SAYING I'M, I'M SAYING THIS IS ON THE AGENDA.

I'M JUST SAYING YOU BEFORE THE VOTE, YOU KNOW, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO HAVE A LAST COMMENT, IT'S THIS A NEW, UH, WELL, CAN, CAN WE LEAVE THAT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? PERHAPS IF, RIGHT? YES.

WHY? WHY? BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE PUTTING CHAPTER THREE 80 INTO A PUBLIC HEARING.

RIGHT? OKAY.

ON, UH, A NEW CHAPTER 3 74.

AND THEN I DO BELIEVE, ONE, YOU'RE MAKING A VERY MESSY RECORD FOR 3 74 CHAPTER 3 74.

THAT'S FINE.

WE COULD DO, WE HAVING THE PUBLIC COMMENT ON, I JUST DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO THINK THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING, BE BEHIND YOUR BACK OR SOMETHING.

SO I I I'LL EXPLAIN THANK, SO TONIGHT, THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE WAS CLOSED ALREADY.

AND THAT VOTE IS SCHEDULED CURRENTLY FOR TONIGHT.

NOW THAT VOTE WILL OCCUR AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO USE THEIR FIVE MINUTES TONIGHT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE LAW ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH THE PUBLIC HEARING OCCURRED TWO WEEKS AGO, YOU COULD ADDRESS THAT AGAIN TONIGHT, OR YOU CANNOT.

OR YOU CAN USE YOUR TIME FOR WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ABOUT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT IN REGARDS TO WHAT WAS PRESENTED TONIGHT AND WHICH WHAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT TONIGHT.

I BELIEVE THE BOARD WILL LIKELY CONTINUE THE HEARING TO THE MAY 24TH MEETING.

YOU CAN COME OUT AGAIN AND VOICE YOUR OPINION AGAIN, BUT IT'S ALREADY PART OF THE RECORD.

OTHER PEOPLE CAN COME OUT AND VOICE THEIR OPINION AS WELL.

THEN IT WILL BE CLOSED AT THAT TIME.

AND THERE WILL BE A VOTE LATER ON, ON WHAT WE DISCUSSED TONIGHT WITH THE TWO MONTH BAN FOR JUNE AND JULY, UH, JUNE, JULY TO AUGUST.

I CAN SPEAK ABOUT THE NOT DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT, WHICH WILL COME LATER ON.

YOU MAY BE ABLE TO FIVE MINUTES.

IN OTHER WORDS, YOU WERE IN FAVOR

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LAST TWO WEEKS AGO.

ALL OF YOU WERE IN FAVOR OF THAT LAW FOR THE CONSENSUS.

IF THAT HAS CHANGED AND YOU, THAT WHAT NOT NOW, IF THAT HAS CHANGED, THE TIME TO ADDRESS THAT IS NOT IN A PUBLIC HEARING ON CHAPTER 3 74.

IT'S TO ADDRESS IT DURING PUBLIC COMMENT ON CHA, THE CHAPTER THREE 80, WHICH I BELIEVE YOU ONE PERSON DECIDED THEY WEREN'T GOING TO SPEAK BECAUSE IT WAS SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE IN FAVOR OF.

BUT IF THAT HAS CHANGED, LET US KNOW AND THEN WE COULD GO BACK AND REVISIT THAT.

BUT WE'D HAVE TO REOPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT CHAPTER.

SO AT THIS POINT WE'RE GOING TO, YEAH, AND I JUST WANNA SAY 1, 1, 1 FINAL THING.

I WANT EVERYBODY HERE TO REALIZE THAT WHEN WE PASS A LAW, LIKE, UH, NOTHING IN GOVERNMENT AND NOTHING IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS PERFECT, AND THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE THINGS THAT GO WRONG, AND THERE'S ALWAYS UNANTICIPATED CONSEQUENCES TO ANY ACTION YOU TAKE.

SO WE COULD BE ADOPTING ALL LAW, UH, UH, OR WE COULD, AND IF THERE'S PROBLEMS WITH ALL LAW, WE COULD ALWAYS CHANGE THE LAW IN THE FUTURE.

MAKE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF DEALING WITH, YOU KNOW, LEAF BLOWERS OR ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT PEOPLE COULD TRY, IDENTIFYING SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITH ACTION STEPS WE'RE TAKING, AND GIVE US SUGGESTIONS AS TO WAYS WE COULD, YOU KNOW, MAKE IT BETTER OR, OR TAKE, YOU KNOW, CORRECTIVE ACTION.

ONE OF THE BIG PROBLEMS WITH THE, UH, THE LEAD BLOWER ISSUE, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHERE SORT OF I'M LIKE BEEN COMING FROM IS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE I'VE BEEN SUPERVISOR, YOU KNOW, FOR, YOU KNOW, A LONG TIME.

AND, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE HAVE A HEARING, PEOPLE SPEAK OUT AGAINST IT, AND THEN NOTHING GETS DONE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR LIKE, YOU KNOW, 30 YEARS.

THERE'S LIKE, WE HAVE MEETINGS AND WE HAVE A HEARING, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE START YELLING AT US AND THEN NOTHING HAPPENS.

AND THEN SIX MONTHS LATER WE DO THE SAME THING, AND THEN PEOPLE YELL AT US AND NOTHING HAPPENS.

SO THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON CONSTANTLY.

UM, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO, WHO, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE READY, LIKE TO ALMOST LIKE KILL US.

THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A POLICE OFFICER HERE.

UH, YEAH, BECAUSE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE READY TO KILL US BECAUSE WE'RE NOT DOING, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU, THEY SAY THEY CAN'T LIVE WITH ALL THE NOISE.

IT'S LIKE DRIVING THEM CRAZY.

UM, SO I, I WOULD SAY APPROXIMATELY ONCE A DAY I GET SOMEBODY, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE ALMOST IN A STATE OF PANIC, THEY JUST CAN'T TAKE IT.

AND THEY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY ANGRY AT THE BOARD BECAUSE THEY FEEL WE'RE ALL TALK AND NO ACTION.

WE HAVE THESE HEARINGS AND THEN NOTHING EVER HAPPENS.

SO PEOPLE, SO I SORT OF FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE A BALANCE THERE.

YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANT TO FORCE THE LANDSCAPE INDUSTRY OUT OF WORK.

WE APPRECIATE THE WORK YOU DO, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, PEOPLE HAVE A QUALITY, YOU KNOW, QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S LEGITIMATE QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS.

AND SO YOU HAVE REALLY LIKE HALF THE PEOPLE ON ONE SIDE AND HALF THE PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE.

SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE THE CORRECT, YOU KNOW, THE CORRECT BALANCE.

UM, YOU KNOW, AND THE ONE THING I HAVE NEVER LEARNED SINCE I'VE BEEN SUPERVISORY IS THAT YOU CAN'T PLEASE EVERYBODY.

I'M STILL TRYING TO LEARN THAT, BUT I, I HAVEN'T FIGURED THAT OUT YET.

BUT NO, BUT I, I REALIZE THAT THIS IS, IT'S REALLY TOUGH.

BUT WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE WANT TO ENJOY LIVING IN THE TOWN.

AND, AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA.

I SHARE EMAILS WITH THE TOWN BOARD EVERY SINGLE WEEK SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE YOU? WHY AREN'T YOU DOING SOMETHING? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? UH, I MAKE A, I MOVE THAT WE, I KEEP THE RECORD OPEN AND THE HEARING OPEN, UH, UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR TOWN BOARD MEETING.

WAS IT SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.

WHO SECONDED? SECONDED.

I THOUGHT THAT YOU WOULD SECOND THE NEXT.

NOW WE HAVE ONE HEARING BEFORE

[ To consider a one-year agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and the Village of Irvington to provide Fire Protection Services to Unincorporated Greenburgh residents of the East Irvington Fire Protection District for the year 2023, for an amount not to exceed $111,581]

PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND THAT SHOULD ONLY TAKE ABOUT THREE HOURS.

SO, AND THEN THIS IS TO CONSIDER ONE YEAR AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND VILLAGE OF IRVINGTON TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG RESIDENCE OF THE EAST IRVINGTON FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT, UM, UH, FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $111,581.

TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO AN AREA OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT IS NOT SERVED BY THE GREENVILLE, FAIRVIEW, OR HARTSDALE FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE, AYE.

SO THIS IS A, AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF IRVINGTON

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SO THE CLOSEST VILLAGE TO THIS, THIS, UH, AREA OF THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF GREENBURG IS THE VILLAGE OF IRVINGTON.

AND SO WE CONTRACT WITH THE VILLAGE TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES.

THE COST FOR 2023 IS $111,581, $111,581.

EXCUSE ME.

TERRY, CAN YOU TAKE THAT OUTSIDE PLEASE? THANK YOU.

AND FOR COMPARISON, LAST YEAR IT WAS A THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS.

UH, IT WAS $110,443.

UM, AND AGAIN, THAT'S A DIFFERENCE OF ABOUT, UH, UH, A THOUSAND DOLLARS.

UH, AND AS I STATE EACH TIME THE VILLAGE HAS A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT PROVIDES THESE SERVICES.

THIS HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE HARTSDALE, GREENVILLE OR FAIRVIEW FIRE DEPARTMENTS, UH, WHICH ARE THE, UH, WHICH WHICH ARE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, BUT THEY'RE TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE AREA THAT IS BEING SERVED.

SO WE USE THE SERVICES OF THE VILLAGE, WHICH HAS A VOLUNTEER, UH, FIRE COMPANY.

UH, IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT, UH, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF.

AND ACTUALLY IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU STATE THAT IF YOU LIVE IN THE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT, BECAUSE ONLY THE PEOPLE IN THE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT WILL PAY THAT AMOUNT.

MR. MURRAY.

MURRAY, SORRY, MURRAY BOWDEN.

MY NAME IS MURRAY BOWDEN.

WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM.

VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS ORIGINATED HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO WHEN EVERYBODY IN TOWN CAME TO PUT OUT A FIRE.

TODAY NOBODY WORKS IN TOWN.

NOBODY CAN CLOSE THEIR BUSINESS.

THE CONCEPT OF A VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT IS OVER.

EVERYWHERE YOU GO, YOU SIGN, SIGN SAYING VOLUNTEER NEEDED.

WELL, NOBODY CAN CLOSE THEIR BUSINESS AND GO FIGHT A FIRE, FIRE, FIRE AND CENTRAL AVENUE.

IT WAS CLOSE BY.

YOU'VE GOT ONE UP ON COP OF THE HILL, YOU'VE GOT ONE THERE.

MOST PEOPLE PAY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

THEY PAY FOR ALL OF THE TOWN SERVICES FOR FIRE PROTECTION.

AND WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY, PAUL, BEFORE WAS YOU SAID, WE CAN'T AFFECT VARIOUS THINGS.

YOU CAN AFFECT THE COST OF FIRE.

YOU CAN REDUCE THE TAXES FOR MOST PEOPLE TO HALF.

IF YOU COMBINE THE FIRE DISTRICTS, MOST OTHER AREAS HAVE NOT THE BREAKUP THAT WE HAVE.

AND BECAUSE EVERYBODY HAS A FINGER IN THE PIE AND MY COUSIN WORKS THERE AND SOMEBODY'S GONNA LOSE THEIR JOB.

NOBODY TACKLES THIS.

THE REALITY IS THERE IS NO VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE DUPLICATION OF FIRE CHIEFS IS RIDICULOUS.

SO UNTIL YOU BEGIN TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE, YOU'RE KIDDING.

EVERYBODY.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A VOLUNTEER FIRE DISTRICT.

WE DON'T PAY THEM TO COVER WHAT WE DON'T.

WE HAVE A GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH ONE CHIEF, WHO BY THE WAY, FUNCTIONS AS A TEAM.

HE DOESN'T FUNCTION BY HIMSELF.

HIS TOP OFFICERS WORK WITH HIM AND THEY JOINTLY DETERMINE HOW TO RUN THE DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S NOT A CHAIN OF COMMAND, THAT'S A TEAM.

I'M IMPRESSED THAT GREENBURG HAS MOVED IN THAT DIRECTION TO CHANGE THE FIRE DISTRICTS AND HAVE ONE DISTRICT AND A FIRE CHIEF COVERING THE SAME AREA.

IT'S TIME.

AND PAUL, WHEN YOU SAY WE SAVED A LITTLE MONEY OVER HERE, IT PALES BY THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COSTS TO RUN THE FIRE

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DISTRICTS.

WHY DO WE SEND THE FIRE TO FIRE ENGINE EVERY TIME WE SEND AN E M SS CAR? SO IT PUTS THE MILEAGE ON.

SO THEY SAID, WE MADE THESE EXTRA CALLS, I FELL DOWN AND I NEEDED TO CALL 9 1 1 'CAUSE I COULDN'T GET UP.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

THEN I FOUND OUT THAT IF I CALL 9 1 1, IT GOES TO THE STATE POLICE AND I WOULD TELL THE LADY, I'M 200 POUNDS.

I'M LAYING ON A FLOOR.

I JUST NEED SOMEBODY TO PICK ME UP.

I JUST LEARNED THAT ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO.

'CAUSE I PASSED OUT IN THE GARAGE.

I COULDN'T STAND UP.

NOW I FIND OUT MY FRIEND IN TOBS FERRY, HER HUSBAND HAD PROBLEMS. HE COULDN'T GET HIM INTO BED AND CALLED 9 1 1 AND THEY SENT SOME TWO MEN OVER OR WHOEVER AND PUT 'EM BACK INTO BED.

WE HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE THE FIRE ENGINE GOES TO EVERY NINE ONE ONE CALL JUST TO PUT THE MILEAGE ON THERE AND SAY, WE HAVE DONE THESE MANY CALLS TODAY.

WHEN THEY GO FOR FOOD FOR THE FIREHOUSE, DO THEY HAVE TO SEND A FIRE ENGINE THERE TO GET IT? FOOD IS DELIVERED NOW BY VARIOUS PLACES.

SO TO PUT MILEAGE ON A FIRE TRUCK TO GO PUT UP PICK UP FOOD IS RIDICULOUS IS SO IF YOU'RE GOING ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF WHAT YOU GOT ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT, THE REAL ISSUE IS COMBINING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT'S ONCE AND FOR ALL AND SAVING SIGNIFICANT MONEY FOR ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING TONIGHT.

IT'S A REALLY TOUGH THING.

AND YOU'RE CHANGING THE WORLD THAT WAS ORIGINATED THOUSANDS, HUNDREDS OF YEARS AGO WHEN EVERYBODY RAN UP THE STREET TO HELP THE FIRE.

NOBODY CLOSES THEIR STORE AND RUNS UP THE STREET ANYMORE.

ANYBODY ELSE? YOUR HONOR, I JUST WANNA SAY ON THE RECORD THAT FOR YEARS I'VE ADVOCATE, I'VE SUPPORTED YOUR POSITION ON THAT.

YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT THE FIRE DISTRICT SHOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, CONSOLIDATED.

I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, MONA FRY, YOU KNOW, RAN FOR FIRE COMMISSIONER, UM, A FEW TIMES AND LOST.

AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE WASN'T REALLY ENOUGH SUPPORT, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE TRIED FOR AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR, YOU KNOW, FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS TO HAVE MORE SHARING OR MORE, UH, CONSOLIDATION BECAUSE I DON'T THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE, UM, THREE PAID FIRE CHIEFS WHEN, UM, WHEN WE HAVE ONE POLICE CHIEF.

UM, AND THE THE THREE PAID FIRE CHIEF SERVE LESS THAN A THIRD OF OF THE TOWN, LESS THAN A THIRD, BECAUSE SOME OF THE UNINCORPORATED IS SERVED BY THE VOLUNTEER FIRE DEPARTMENTS.

SO I, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT DICTATORS AND WE NEED THE COMMUNITY TO, TO BE SUPPORTIVE IF THERE'S EVER GONNA, IF THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN IN THE TOWN, DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO UNILATERALLY SAY WE WANT TO CONSOLIDATE THE DISTRICTS.

BUT I'M CONVINCED THAT IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN, THAT YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE WOULD BE I THINK AN ENORMOUS SAVINGS OF, OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

SO I AGREE AS AN EXAMPLE, YOU COULD GO TO BEDFORD WITH, YOU JUST BUILT A NEW FIREHOUSE AND TAKE A LOOK AT THEIRS.

YEAH, IT'S ALL TOTALLY IRRELEVANT RELEVANT BECAUSE THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS NOT REACHABLE.

EVEN, EVEN IF YOU WERE TO COMBINE THE, THE THREE DIFFERENT FIRE DISTRICTS, THERE'S AN AREA, THERE ARE AREAS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE UNINCORPORATED AREA THAT ARE TOO DISTANT FROM THOSE FIREHOUSES, WHICH WOULD MEAN WE, YOU'D HAVE TO CREATE MORE FIREHOUSES IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO COVER THESE AREAS.

SO AS I STATED, AND THIS HAPPENS AT EVERY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT HEARING REGARDING GOING INTO CONTRACT WITH THE VILLAGES, WHICH HAVE VOLUNTEER FIRE COMPANIES.

AND I DISAGREE, UM, STRENUOUSLY WITH THE COMMENTS THAT WE JUST MADE REGARDING THE FIRE COMPANIES.

UM, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, AT $12 A PAGE, YOU KNOW, RUNNING UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IRRELEVANT INFORMATION.

AND THE SUPERVISOR HAS, UH, WORKED ON, UH, CONSOLIDATING, UH, THE THREE FIRE FIRE DISTRICTS I WORKED WITH THE THREE FIRE DISTRICTS ALSO ON A SIMILAR, SIMILAR EFFORT, UH, THAT HAS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WE HAD BEFORE US AND EVERY OTHER HEARING THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, DEALING WITH THE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICTS.

THESE ARE FOR AREAS THAT HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED, UH, TOO FAR FROM

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THE THREE DIFFERENT FIRE DISTRICTS.

AIR PROTECTION DISTRICT PUBLIC HEARING IMMEDIATELY CONVERTS OVER TO A DISCUSSION OF THE THREE , THREE FIRE, UH, DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE IRRELEVANT TO THIS PUBLIC HEARING.

BUT I DO WANT TO PUT ON THE RECORD THAT I STRENUOUSLY OBJECT TO MANY OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU HAVE MADE.

THEY ARE, THEY ARE PROFESSIONALS AND THEY, NO MURRAY, THEY ARE DESIGNED TO PROTECT THE PUBLIC.

I HAD YOUR FIVE MINUTES AND THAT'S WHY WE CONTINUE TO CONTRACT WITH THEM IN ORDER TO HAVE THIS SERVICE.

UM, IS THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS LER? UH, NOT THAT I KNOW OF NOW.

THERE ARE NO FURTHER REQUESTS FOR SPEAKING ON THIS PUBLIC HEARING, SO I WOULD MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING.

LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.

IS THERE A SECOND? YEAH, A SECOND.

NOW THE PUBLIC COULD COMMENT ON ANY, COULD COMMENT ON ANYTHING.

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UM, IF YOU, YOU'LL BE CALLING IN THE ORDER OF THE CARDS.

SO JUDITH, DO WE HAVE ANYBODY? YES.

HAL SIMS. AND HOW MANY SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? THERE ARE THREE ON THERE.

PLAN, THERE'S NO MENTION OF ANY PEDESTRIAN SAFETY OR ITEMS SUCH AS THESE FABULOUS LIGHTS THAT YOU ARE ADVOCATING.

FOUR.

FIVE.

OH, NOW WE HAVE FOUR, FIVE.

WELL, SO MANY THINGS GOING ON AND TRYING TOUCH AS EACH OF THEM THIS MORNING.

I FORGOT DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET TO MENTION THAT WHEN WE DIDN'T PURCHASE ANY OF THOSE 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET ITEMS, THEY'VE GONE UP IN PRICE.

WE KNOW THERE'S INFLATION GOING ON.

AND SINCE WE HAVEN'T BONDED THEM, IF WE ARE GOING TO DO THEM AT SOME POINT BECAUSE YOU VOTED THEM AS ESSENTIAL IMPORTANT THINGS, WE'LL BE PAYING A LOT MORE IN INTEREST RATE.

SO WHETHER WE RETAIN AAA BOND RATING, THE RATE THAT WE WILL BE PAYING IS PROBABLY EQUIVALENT TO THAT, WHICH WOULD BE SHARED BY ANYONE WITH A B AA RATING.

SO I STILL DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE DIDN'T GO TO BOND ANY OF THE 2022 CAPITAL BUDGET ITEMS THAT YOU APPROVED.

I HAVE TO TAKE NOTE THAT TIMES HAVE CHANGED.

AND AS FAR AS THIS LEAF BLOWER ISSUE IS, AM I TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF THESE THINGS WERE BEING ADDRESSED TODAY, THAT WE WOULD FIND THAT DOROTHY WOULD BE BLOWN INTO THE LAND OF OZ BY A LEAF BLOWER, UH, SUPERMAN WHEN HE TAKES OFF IN LANDS, WOULD HE BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL HAZARD BECAUSE HE TRAVELS FASTER THAN THE SPEED OF SOUND? UH, MR. SHEEHAN YOUR TRAFFIC LIGHT AT YOUR CHURCH ON CENTRAL PARK AVENUE, I'M STILL CONFUSED AS TO WHY WE NEED ONE ANY MORE THAN WE NEEDED A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE.

THE PLAIN OLD VANILLA KIND OF TRAFFIC LIGHT, BOTH THOSE VANILLA TRAFFIC LIGHTS AND YOUR NEW HAWK SYSTEM REQUIRE SOMEONE TO ACTUALLY PUSH THE BUTTON TO INITIATE THEM.

AND IF NO ONE INIT DOES PUSH THE BUTTON, NEITHER A TRAFFIC LIGHT OR A HAWK SYSTEM WILL SERVE ITS PURPOSE.

AND YES, LAWTON STREET IS PRETTY FAR DISTANCE FROM FOUR CORNERS.

SO I COULD USE A TRAFFIC LIGHT, BUT AT THAT LOCATION, EVEN DESPITE THE PRESENCE OF AN ACCIDENT, IF WE ARE REALLY SO CONCERNED ABOUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, THERE ARE TWO OTHER CHURCHES IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF LAWTON STREET, WHICH WILL NOT BE SERVED BY A LIGHT OF ANY NATURE, NOR IS THE HIGH POINT SCHOOL BE SERVED BY A TRAFFIC LIGHT OF ANY NATURE.

AND IF WE ARE SO CONCERNED AND THINK WE'VE GOT A REAL WINNER HERE IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET THERE IN THE 2024 2025

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UM, MR. DANKO, A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO I ASKED YOU ABOUT THE MALDONADO SETTLEMENT AND YOU SAID YOU COULDN'T COMMENT ON ANY OF THESE THINGS THAT ARE PENDING PART OF YOUR DEPARTMENT'S PRACTICE.

WELL, THAT'S AN INCIDENT THAT OCCURRED IN 2017 AND THE RESOLUTIONS THAT YOU VOTE FOR ENDED BY APRIL, 2018.

WE HAVEN'T SPENT ANY MONEY TO DEFEND THIS LAWSUIT.

I HAVE TO CONCLUDE THAT IT'S BEEN SETTLED.

DO YOU THINK IT'S REALLY STILL GOING ON? IS THAT WHAT THE IMPRESSION YOU WANT TO GIVE? YES, IT'S STILL PENDING.

OKAY, FINE.

ANY PROGRESS? CAN WE TELL AT WHAT STATE IT IS? NO, I'M NOT.

HAS ARGUMENT ENDED FURTHER INFORMATION HAS ARGUMENT ENDED? THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION.

OH, OKAY.

THEN I GUESS WE WILL BE PAYING FOR MORE LITIGATION.

UM, BUT WHILE I'M ON THAT TOPIC, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT ON THE ATTORNEY RESOLUTIONS, WE KNOW HOW MUCH THE TOWN PAYS IN CERTI STORY.

WE KNOW HOW MUCH THE TOWN PAYS IN PROPERTY DAMAGE BECAUSE IT'S SHOWN ON THE AGENDA WITH ALL THE LITIGATIONS THAT HAVE GONE ON AGAINST THE TOWN, MOSTLY POLICE OFFICERS.

HOW CAN WE NEVER FIND OUT THE RESOLUTION? ISN'T IT AN EXPENSE TO TAXPAYERS? DON'T WE DESERVE THE SAME COURTESY AS SIR AND PROPERTY DAMAGE? I AM FINE, THANKS .

CAROL ALLEN.

I'M CAROL ALLEN FROM HARTSDALE, NEW YORK.

I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE SAVING GREENBERG COALITION.

WE'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU SEVERAL TIMES THIS YEAR AND I JUST WANTED TO BRING EVERYONE UP TO DATE ON WHERE WE STAND.

FIRST, I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE WHO WAS ABLE TO ATTEND OUR MEETING THAT WE HELD ON APRIL 27TH AT THE CHRIST TEMPLE WHERE WE DISCUSSED THE ISSUE.

UH, WE HAD ABOUT A HUNDRED PEOPLE PRESENT IN PERSON.

WE HAD ABOUT A HUNDRED DEVICES PRESENT ON ZOOM.

SO WE BELIEVE THAT IT WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL.

UM, WE HAVE MET WITH OUR STATE LEGISLATORS TO MAKE THE REQUEST THAT EVERYONE IN GREENBURG UNINCORPORATED AREA SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO VOTE ON MATTERS THAT AFFECT THEM.

AS IT PERTAINS TO INCORPORATION, UH, THE LEGISLATORS DID IN FACT ATTEND OUR MEETING AND SPEAK.

UH, THEY SAID THAT THEY ARE WILLING TO WORK WITH US TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN DOES NOT SUFFER SHOULD THERE BE INCORPORATION.

WE HAVE ASKED FOR FOLLOW-UP DOCUMENTS THAT WERE, WE WERE TOLD HAVE BEEN OBTAINED SUCH AS THE STUDY FROM PATIENT UNIVERSITY, WHICH SUPPORTS THE NEED TO HAVE UPDATING TO THE, UH, VILLAGE LAW FOR THE STATE.

BUT WE HAVE NOT YET RECEIVED THAT.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT THERE SHOULD BE MONEY SET ASIDE IN THE BUDGET FOR A STATEWIDE STUDY.

UM, WE REALIZE THAT A STUDY THAT COSTS $200,000, WE TAKE QUITE A WHILE TO ACCOMPLISH.

AND WE FEEL AT THIS POINT IT'S MOST APPROPRIATE IF THE LEGISLATURES WOULD IMPOSE A MORATORIUM STATEWIDE ON INCORPORATION UNTIL THE STUDY CAN BE COMPLETED AND APPROPRIATE REVISIONS CAN BE MADE.

WE WILL BE ASKING THE LEGISLATORS TO DO THAT.

AND IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THE TOWN BOARD WOULD ALSO SUPPORT US IN THE REQUEST TO HAVE A MORATORIUM.

WE WILL BE HAVING ADDITIONAL INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS FOR THE, UH, PEOPLE IN TOWN OVER THE NEXT SIX WEEKS.

WE EXPECT TO HAVE THEM IN VARIOUS LOCATIONS AT VARIOUS TIMES SO THAT IT'LL BE CONVENIENT FOR ANYBODY WHO NEEDS TO ATTEND.

SO WE COULD DISCUSS YOUR REQUEST AT A WORK SESSION IF THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.

THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

MAYBE WE COULD ASK TO PUT IT ON FOR NEXT TUESDAY.

I'M SORRY, WHAT'S ALREADY ON? IS THERE REQUEST FOR FOR OUR BOARD? THE BOARD, MICHAEL, THE BOARD.

I THINK YOU'RE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE BOARD TO PASS A RESOLUTION ENDORSING.

COULD YOU JUST REPEAT? IT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF THE BOARD COULD SUPPORT OUR REQUEST TO THE LEGISLATURES TO HAVE A STATEWIDE MORATORIUM IMPOSED ON VILLAGE IN CORPORATION.

UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE STUDY THAT SENATOR STEWART COUSINS HAS PROPOSED, THE ACCOMPLISHED IS COMPLETED AND THE LEGISLATION CAN BE MADE TO UPDATE THESE VILLAGE LAW SO THAT IT'LL BE FAIR TO ALL PARTIES THROUGHOUT THE

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STATE.

SO WE WOULD APPRECIATE SUPPORT FROM THE TOWN BOARD IN MAKING THAT REQUEST.

THANK YOU, CAROL.

SO YEAH, WE'LL PUT IT ON FOR A WORK SESSION, THEN ASK, WHY DON'T WE GIVE THE TOPIC TO KRISTA AND SEE.

'CAUSE WE ALSO HAVE, UH, INTERVIEWS AND WE'LL SEE HOW WE CAN ACCOMMODATE IT IF WE CAN ON TUESDAY.

OTHERWISE IT WOULD BE THE FOLLOWING TUESDAY.

UM, THE ONLY REASON I'M SUGGESTING NEXT TUESDAY IS THE STATE LEGISLATION MAY ADJOURN ON JUNE 8TH.

THAT'S THEIR SCHEDULED DATE.

SOMETIMES THEY GO A LITTLE LATER.

SO IF WE WANT TO HAVE AN EFFECT ON ALBANY AND WE WAIT, THEN IT'S GONNA BE TOO LATE.

SO, SO THERE'S A LIST FOR NEXT TUESDAY.

YOU LET US KNOW WHICH ONE THAT YOU TOLD WAS HIGH PRIORITY AS WELL, BECAUSE YOU HAVE EVERY ONE OF YOUR THINGS ARE HIGH PRIORITY.

TELL US WHICH ONE, UH, WE CAN MOVE, UH, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE INTERVIEWS TO DO AND WE HAVE LEFTOVER INTERVIEWS FROM LAST TUESDAY.

SO I AGREE THAT YOU KNOW THIS, THERE'S TIME SENSITIVITY.

I ALSO HAVE TO SAY THAT, UH, THIS BOARD UNANIMOUSLY TOOK YOUR RECOMMENDATION AND PASSED, UM, UH, A RESOLUTION URGING THE STATE LEGISLATORS TO DO EXACTLY WHAT YOU, UH, ASKED US TO DO.

SOME OF US COULD NOT MAKE IT TO YOUR SAVING GREENBERG, UM, MEETING AND THAT WE WERE CHASTISED AND CRITICIZED AND TOLD US WE SHOULD BE REPLACED ON THE BOARD BECAUSE WE DID NOT ATTEND A PARTICULAR MEETING OF YOUR GROUP.

I THINK AT SOME POINT YOU SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT WE TOOK QUITE A BIT OF HEAT FOR PASSING THAT INITIAL RESOLUTION.

AND I FIND IT VERY OFFENSIVE THAT UNLESS APPARENTLY WE HOP EVERY TIME YOU SAY HOP, WE SHOULD BE REPLACED.

AND SO FRANKLY, I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL RIGHT NOW ABOUT YOUR SAVING GREENBERG.

I AGREE WITH SAVING GREENBERG, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE PROPER WAY YOU SHOULD ADDRESS THE BOARD AFTER WE DID EXACTLY WHAT YOU ASKED US TO AND SENT IT TO THE STATE.

MAY I FURTHER, MAY I RESPOND PLEASE? SURE.

WE ARE A COALITION OF INDIVIDUALS AS SUCH CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS WISH TO SPEAK THEIR MIND.

THEY DON'T ALWAYS SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE ENTIRE COALITION.

WELL, AND I THANK YOU FOR THOSE WHO DID COME, AND I HOPE YOU NOTICE I DID NOT CALL OUT ANYONE FOR NOT COMING.

I ALSO KNOW THAT EVERYONE FROM YOUR GROUP SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN COPIED ON THAT.

UM, AND THERE WAS NO RESPONSE AS TO, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES WE CAN'T BE AT EVERY MEETING.

COUNCILMAN SHEHAN? YEAH, I UNDERSTAND YOU ARE UPSET.

I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE UPSET.

I'M VERY, I'M NOT PLEASED THAT YOU ARE UPSET BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND I HOPE THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER.

I I DO TOO.

BUT I ALSO SPEAK MY MIND AS YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE ANYBODY TO LEAVE A ROOM AND HAVE ANY IDEA, ANY QUESTION AS TO WHERE I STAND.

AND I JUST THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE AFTER WE TOOK A LOT OF HEAT FOR DOING EXACTLY WHAT YOU ASKED US TO DO.

AND NOW YOU'RE ASKING US TO TAKE ANOTHER ACTION, RIGHT? WHICH I'M SURE WE'RE GONNA GET HEAT FOR.

I WILL CONVEY YOUR SENTIMENTS TO THE ENTIRE BOARD.

I KNOW YOU WILL.

GREENBERG UNDERSTAND THE REAL RAMIFICATIONS, UH, AND IS AN INDEPENDENT IMPARTIAL STUDY, UM, THAT EVERYBODY HAS CONFIDENCE IN, I THINK THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE REALLY FANTASTIC BECAUSE I DON'T WANT PEOPLE, UM, TO SAY THEY SUPPORT OR THEY REJECT INCORPORATION BECAUSE I TOLD THEM IT'S GOOD OR BID.

AND I, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT IT'S SORT OF LIKE A TOUGH LOVE APPROACH.

UH, YOU KNOW, UH, SOMETIMES CAROL, UH, IS CRITICAL OF ME AND SOMETIMES CAROL AGREES WITH ME.

SOME, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY AGREE AND DISAGREE, BUT IN A DEMOCRACY, I FEEL THAT, UH, RESIDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEIR VIEWS.

AND, UM, AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT ABOUT ME BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M THE ELECTED OFFICIAL.

AND, UH, AND PE IF PEOPLE FEEL THAT WE'RE DOING THINGS WRONG OR THEY, THEY'RE HURT BY THE ACTIONS WE'RE TAKING OR NOT, I THEY SHOULD SPELL IT OUT.

AND YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, I'VE ALWAYS LEARNED FROM, UH, FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE YELLED AND, YOU KNOW, AND SCREAMED AT ME.

AND, YOU KNOW, I I THINK IT, AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE INDIVIDUALS BEHIND THE GROUP THAT'S IMPORTANT.

IT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.

WE'RE ALL TRYING TO SAVE GREENBERG.

AND THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO THE THING IS, I FAIL THAT IF, UH, THE LEGISLATURE, UM, WOULD PASS A MORATORIUM AND WE DO A, A REALLY GREAT STUDY AND PEOPLE IN EDGEMONT AND UNINCORPORATED

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I WANT AN INDEPENDENT PERSON TO TAKE A, AN AGENCY TO DO A THOROUGH, COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS, TELL PEOPLE WHAT THEY COULD REALLY EXPECT FROM THIS.

UM, AND THEN, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WILL HELP EVERYBODY MAKE AN IN INFORMED, EDUCATED, UH, EXPER, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCE.

SO, UH, A CHOICE DECISION.

SO, YOU KNOW, I, I APPRECIATE BEING YELLED AT SOMETIMES .

WELL, WELL, I DON'T WHEN IT'S THE, WHEN THE PURPOSE OF IT IS THAT WE DON'T, DIDN'T ALL JUMP ONTO THAT MEETING AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHER ITEMS. I THOUGHT IT WAS RATHER TRIVIAL AND THE APPROACH, BUT EXTREMELY, UH, HARD HITTING AND, AND, UH, INSULTING.

INSULTING.

AND THEN ONE, ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD SAID WHY HE COULDN'T MAKE IT.

AND THEN THAT WAS DEEMED TO BE ACCEPTABLE.

I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S REALLY WORKING TOGETHER.

RIGHT? MANY PEOPLE MISS DIFFERENT MEETINGS, UH, FOR LOTS OF DIFFERENT REASONS.

AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE, THEY DON'T CARE.

I UNDERSTAND WHEN WE DON'T SHOW UP AT SOME, SOME PLACES PEOPLE SAY, OH, THAT MONEY'S, THEY, THEY DON'T CARE.

YOU COULD HAVE THREE DIFFERENT MEETINGS, TWO OF THEM, THEY'RE GONNA THINK YOU DON'T CARE, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT YOU CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THAT.

BUT FOR PEOPLE THAT WE HAD BEEN WORKING WITH FOR A VERY LONG TIME, INCLUDING ON POLICE STATION AND COURTHOUSE AND SO FORTH, I JUST FOUND THAT, UM, I I I I JUST FOUND IT REPULSIVE.

SO JUST TO UNDERSTAND, YOU'RE VOTING ON THE LAW WITH THE BLOWERS TONIGHT? NO.

YOU'RE GOING TO IN THE NEXT MEETING.

THE TONIGHT IS ONLY THE NOISE, RIGHT? WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT A FEW WEEKS AGO, RIGHT? THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON THAT.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE'RE VOTING FOR.

SO THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET IS WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING ONE BLOWER TO BE ON.

CORRECT? THAT'S PART OF THE WALL, YES.

BLOWERS, THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO BE USED.

SO FOR ME, I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH THAT AT ALL.

WE WERE, I, AND I THINK I SPEAK FOR A LOT OF THE LANDSCAPERS IS WE'RE AFRAID OF ALL OUR BLOWERS BEING TAKEN AWAY AND THAT WE HAVE NOTHING TO WORK WITH.

SO WHEN WE HEAR, OOH, WE CAN USE OUR BLOWERS, EVERYBODY GETS EXCITED AND SAYS, OH, WE AGREE WITH THAT.

BUT ULTIMATELY, I THINK A LOT OF THESE GUYS ARE THINKING THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT ONE BLOWER, DA DA DA, BLAH, BLAH.

BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S IMPOSSIBLE WHEN YOU GET TO A PROPERTY AND YOU GO, OKAY, THIS IS 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

BUT THEN YOU LOOK UP AND THERE'S SEVEN TREES, ONE BULL IS NOT GONNA DO ANYTHING.

SO IT'S REALLY COMMON SENSE.

I THINK IT COMES DOWN TO AN OFFICER THAT MIGHT BE GETTING A CALL FROM A NEIGHBOR ACROSS THE STREET THAT MIGHT HAVE NO TREES AND THEIR NEIGHBOR HAS A TON OF TREES, THEY'RE UPSET.

OFFICER COMES OUT AND HE GOES, OH GOD, I COULDN'T DO THIS IN THREE WEEKS WITH A BLOWER.

WE'RE NOT GONNA GET A TICKET FOR THAT.

SAYS, LISTEN GUY, CAN YOU JUST MOVE ALONG? MAYBE COME BACK.

THIS LADY'S HAVING A HARD DAY.

SOMETHING.

BECAUSE ULTIMATELY IT'S MOTHER NATURE THAT CONTROLS WHAT WE HAVE TO DO.

IF YOU LOOK UP AND THERE'S A TON OF TREES, YOU KNOW, SQUARE FOOTAGE OR IT REALLY DOESN'T HELP US, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT DOESN'T HELP ANYTHING.

IT, IT MAKES NO SENSE.

'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT SEE US PULL UP AND THEY'LL JUST CALL AND IT MAKES NO SENSE.

AND YOU LOOK AT THEIR PROPERTIES AND THEY'RE A MESS.

AND HALF THE TIME YOU BLOW THIS PROPERTY, THEY'RE NOT DOING THEIR PROPERTY.

IT BLOWS ALL OVER TO THIS PROPERTY AND THEN WE'RE FIXING IT.

SO IT'S THAT PERSON WHO DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GREENBERG, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.

THEY MIGHT CARE ABOUT THE NOISE.

AND YOU KNOW, THEY WANT ALL THE RODENTS ON THEIR PROPERTY.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO, BUT THE WHOLE IDEA IS IT, IT'S COMMON SENSE.

IF THERE'S LEAVES, DEBRIS, GARBAGE ON THE PROPERTY AND YOU NEED

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NOT, WELL, IT'S 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

LET'S MEASURE IT OUT.

COMMON SENSE.

THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR.

SO ARE YOU URGING US NOT TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION TONIGHT? WHAT'S THAT? ARE YOU ASKING US NOT TO PASS THIS RESOLUTION TONIGHT? YEAH, I'D, I'D RATHER YOU THINK IT THROUGH AND THAT IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

UM, I THINK IN GENERAL, I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO MY JOB EFFICIENTLY AND PROPERLY.

AND I THINK WHEN YOU NARROW IT DOWN TO ONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN HAVE THREE MECHANICS WORKING ON YOUR CAR AND GET IT DONE AND YOU COULD DRIVE OFF AND DO YOUR THING, THAT'S A GREAT THING.

I'M ONE PERSON BLOWING ON A PROPERTY THAT NEEDS THREE BLOWERS.

I'M GONNA BE THERE FOUR TIMES, FIVE TIMES AS LONG.

MAKES NO SENSE.

YOU WANT TO QUIET THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU WANT TO GO, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, GET OUT.

AND IT MAKES NO SENSE TO, TO KEEP IT ON ONE BLOWER WHEN IF YOU'RE HAVING A TEAM, AND I'M NOT TALKING 50 BLOWERS, IT'S COMMON SENSE.

IF YOU HAVE THREE BLOWERS COMING IN ON A PROPERTY AND IT'S A WINDY DAY, WE WORK WITH MOTHER NATURE.

MOTHER NATURE TELLS US WHAT'S GOING ON.

IF IT'S GONNA RAIN THAT DAY AND I NEED TO GET WORK DONE.

'CAUSE I JUST DROVE ALL THE WAY TO GREENBURG FROM SCARSDALE AND I GET THERE AND IT'S LIKE, UH, OH, CLOUDS ARE COMING.

LET'S GO GUYS.

WE SHOULDN'T BE PENALIZED FOR THAT.

IT'S, IT'S OUR JOB TO CLEAN YOUR PROPERTIES, MAKE THEM LOOK GOOD.

AND IT SHOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, YOU DO IT THIS WAY OR THAT WAY.

ONE BLOWER FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE IF THE COP PULLS UP AND GOES, DUDE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING? YOU GOT ONE TREE HERE AND WRITE ME A TICKET.

I'LL PROBABLY AGREE WITH THEM.

IT COMES DOWN TO IT'S MOTHER NATURE.

WHAT'S GOING ON? DID WE JUST HAVE A THUNDERSTORM? AND SOMETIMES THERE'S MICROBURSTS, YOU'LL GO TO ONE NEIGHBORHOOD.

GEEZ, THERE'S NO LEAVES.

WHAT HAPPENED? WELL, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A MICROBURST, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO BRING OUT HEAVIER EQUIPMENT FOR THAT LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR THAT DAY.

AND THEN THE COP COULD SHOW UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? WELL LOOK AT ALL THESE STICKS, BRANCHES.

LOOK, I HAD TO PULL THIS OUTTA THE POOL.

I HAD TO TAKE THIS OUT.

THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE AWNING, YOU KNOW, WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? JUST COMMON SENSE.

OKAY, I GET IT.

SO THE, THE LAW THAT YOU DO NOT WANT US TO PASS WOULD INCREASE THE DECIBEL LEVEL FROM 55 TO 75.

BUT A WAY OF REGULATING THAT WAS BY LIMITING THE NUMBER OF BLOWERS.

YOU DON'T WANT THAT LAW TO PASS, LEAVE IT AT 55 DECIBELS.

AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TURN ON ONE LEAF BLOWER.

AND YOU'VE EXCEEDED OUR NOISE ORDINANCE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THAT'S WHAT YOU WANNA DO.

SEE, THAT'S WHERE I, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE PAST YOUR FIVE MINUTES NOW.

SO THAT'S WHY IT'S THAT'S IT.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE.

SEE, WE ASKED HIM A QUESTION AND HE HE DID, I ASKED HIM AND HE ANSWERED IT.

NOW WE SAID HE CAN'T RESPOND.

SO THEN RESPOND TO WHAT YOU JUST, YOU JUST SAID, I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR.

UH, IS THIS WHAT YOU WANT? AND THEN HE WAS GONNA RESPOND AND HE SAID, YES, THAT'S WHAT I WANT.

RESPOND.

HE DOESN'T WANT US TO PASS IT.

NO, BUT HE, MAYBE HE, THE WHOLE THING IS, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM THE OTHERS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION.

RIGHT? EXCUSE ME.

WE WERE NOT HAVING A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.

WE'RE NOT HAVING THIS PUBLIC COMMENT.

BUT YOU, YOU ASKED HIM, YOU ASKED HIM A QUESTION AND HE ANSWERED IT.

HE DOESN'T WANT US TO PASS THIS, I JUST WANNA DO MY JOB.

BUT WITHIN THAT, THERE'S COMPROMISE.

RIGHT? MURRAY, SHOULD I CUT? SHOULD I TIE MY, OKAY.

MURRAY.

YOU'RE HONOR, IT IS BEING TIMED BY.

I THINK I MET YOU WELL IN WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BRIDGE IN HASTINGS AND RIGHT.

AND I SAID THIS IS A DISASTER.

IT SHOULDN'T BE BUILT LIKE THAT AND WE SHOULD DO IT.

AND WHATEVER.

THEY'RE DOING A BRIDGE IN OVER SMALL PARKWAY IN ELMSFORD, ENTIRELY DIFFERENT.

PROBABLY USING HALF THE STEEL FOR A SIMILAR DISTANCE THAN THEY DID IN HASTINGS.

WELL, SOMEBODY IN NEW YORK STATE, D O T REALIZES WE HAVE TO CHANGE.

AND THEY STARTED THAT WAY AND IT'S A GOOD STEP FORWARD.

THE REASON I BRING THAT IS BECAUSE THE NEXT ITEM I'M GONNA BRING UP IS EVEN MORE CONTROVERSIAL.

SIDEWALKS.

WE BUILD SIDEWALKS.

WHY DO WE BUILD SIDEWALKS? WELL, WE THINK THEY'RE HEALTHIER, HELPFUL, BUT THEY'RE NOT.

I LIVE IN NEAR WESTWAY AND THEY'VE GOT CURBS THERE.

NO SIDEWALKS, BUT CURBS.

AND THERE'S A LOT OF IT.

TRAFFIC.

PEOPLE WALK THERE ALL THE TIME.

AND YOU CAN'T GET OUTTA THE WAY BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET OUTTA THE CURB.

AND THEY SAY, WHAT DOES THE CURB DO? WELL, WHAT DOES A CURB DO? IT'S A QUESTION BECAUSE THERE ARE STREETS HERE THAT

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HAVE NO CURBS FOR YEARS.

AND THE STREETS ARE STILL THERE.

PAUL, THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DEAL WITH.

YOU'RE THE BICYCLE GUY.

THOSE SIDEWALKS YOU'RE BUILDING ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE SHOULDN'T BE SIDEWALKS.

THEY SHOULD BE SHARED TRAILWAYS WHO USES THEM.

PEOPLE WALK THERE.

YOU COULD USE IT FOR A BICYCLE AND FEDEX IN A POST OFFICE AND EVERYBODY ELSE COULD PULL OFF THE ROAD THE WIDTH OF THAT SIDEWALK OR TRAILWAY AND LEAVE THE ROAD SO OTHER PEOPLE COULD PASS.

WHEN YOU DECIDED TO USE SIDEWALKS, YOU DIDN'T HAVE THE DELIVERY VEHICLES YOU HAVE TODAY.

THE POST OFFICE DOESN'T DELIVER MAIL ANYMORE.

THE POST OFFICE DELIVERS PACKAGES.

IT GOT SO BAD THEY PULLED THOSE TRUCKS THAT THEY TOOK OFF THE ROAD 10 YEARS AGO.

THEY'RE BACK ON A ROAD 'CAUSE THEY NEED THEM TO DELIVER MAIL.

THE WORLD HAS CHANGED.

THE USE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY HAS CHANGED.

IT IS A SHARED RIGHT OF WAY.

PEOPLE ARE NOT STUPID.

THEY CAN SHARE IT.

YOU WANT TO HAVE THAT SPACE ON BOTH SIDES SO YOU CAN SAFELY RIDE YOUR BICYCLE.

AND WHEN YOU SEE A PEDESTRIAN, YOU SLOW DOWN.

PEOPLE ARE VERY CONSIDERATE THESE DAYS.

I KNOW IT 'CAUSE I'M IN A WHEELCHAIR AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY PEOPLE OFFER TO HELP ME IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

AND UNTIL YOU'RE IN THAT WHEELCHAIR, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW FRIENDLY PEOPLE ARE.

THOSE TRUCKS THAT CAN'T GET OFF THE ROAD BLOCK TRAFFIC.

AND YOU CAN'T RIDE YOUR BICYCLE SAFELY ON WEST DALE AVENUE.

IT'S IMPOSSIBLE.

AND YOU ARE THE BICYCLE GUY.

I REMEMBER WHEN AL DELBELLO, I DO THERE.

ALL I WERE BUDDIES.

I MISS HIM.

WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? YOU TRY RIDING YOUR BICYCLE ON WEST HARSDALE LIVE.

YOU CAN'T.

BUT YOU COULD SHARE THAT SPACE, THAT TRAILWAY.

'CAUSE THEY SHARE IT ALL OVER.

THOSE NEW TRAILWAYS YOU BUILT ALONG THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY ARE SHARED BY BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS AND RUNNERS.

WHY CAN'T YOU SHARE IT ON WEST HARSDALE AVENUE? THAT'S A REAL TOUGH ONE.

BUSINESS CHANGE.

BED BATH AND BEYOND WAS THE GREATEST THING GOING.

EVERYBODY WENT THERE.

THEY HAD, THEY CLOSED THE LOT.

BUILDING IS EMPTY.

THE WORLD CHANGED AND THEY DIDN'T CHANGE WITH IT.

YOU WANT SOMETHING, IT'S DELIVERED.

YOU ORDER IT FROM AMAZON, IT'S DELIVERED BY THE POST OFFICE.

FIVE DAYS A WEEK IS OVER FIVE DAYS A WEEK.

SATURDAY AND SUNDAY WAS FOR A PARTICULAR SET OF PEOPLE.

BUT OTHER PEOPLE CELEBRATE SATURDAY AND OTHER PEOPLE CELEBRATE FRIDAY.

AND THOSE PEOPLE THAT CELEBRATE ON FRIDAY ARE WILLING TO WORK ON SUNDAY.

AND THE POST OFFICE WORKS SEVEN DAYS A WEEK IF YOU COULD BELIEVE THAT IT DOES.

SO YOU GOT A MAJOR PROBLEM RETHINKING THE SPACE BETWEEN THE ROADWAY AND WHERE PEDESTRIANS AND BICYCLISTS AND EVERYBODY ELSE SHARES.

AND CON EDISON IS NOT REMOVING BOWLS AS MUCH AS YOU'D LIKE TO THINK THEY ARE.

WE GET TO WALK AROUND THEM 'CAUSE WE COULD LOOK LEFT AND RIGHT AND SEE IF ANYBODY'S COMING.

AND DEAR BOWEN, GOOD EVENING.

HOW ARE YOU? GOOD EVENING.

OF OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD WHERE IT'S A BLIND CURVE AND CAR SPEED, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.

I HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS TO TALK ABOUT, BUT FIRST I'LL JUST CONTINUE ON WITH WHAT MARTY WAS SAYING ABOUT SIDEWALKS BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE ISSUES.

UM, WE HAD, WE HAD SIDEWALKS INSTALLED ON OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD, UM, NOT THAT LONG AGO.

UM, BUT FOR SOME REASON THE SIDEWALKS STOPPED AT, UM, ELM, I BELIEVE IT'S ELM STREET, BY THE VOLVO COMPANY GOING TOWARDS ALWOOD ROAD.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHY.

I KNOW THE HOMEOWNERS, WE'VE HAD TO BEAR THE EXTRA EXPENSES OF CLEARING THE SNOW WHEN IT DOES SNOW AND THE LIABILITY, BUT ON THE MOST DANGEROUS PART

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I PASSED TWO ELDERLY PEOPLE WALKING TODAY AND THEY COULD GET HIT.

I I ALMOST HIT THEM COMING AROUND THE CORNER.

THERE'S NO SIDEWALKS AT ALL IN THE MOST DANGEROUS PART.

AND IT HAPPENS TO BE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY.

AND I'M JUST WONDERING WHY, UM, THE SIDEWALKS WEREN'T EXTENDED DOWN TO ALWOOD, UM, ALWOOD ROAD.

UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT COMMENT.

UM, I ALSO WANTED TO ASK AND MAKE A COMMENT ON TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES, BECAUSE WE'RE ALL TAXES PAYERS.

AND, UM, I LIVE IN FAIRVIEW, UH, GREENBURG.

AND AT ONE TIME FAIRVIEW GREENBURG HAD THE FOURTH HIGHEST POPULATION OF, UM, BLACK RESIDENTS IN NEW YORK STATE.

UH, WE NO LONGER HAVE THAT.

UM, A LOT OF OUR HOMEOWNERS HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES, UM, IN GREENBURG, UM, PARTLY DUE TO THE PRE PREDATORY LENDING.

UM, BUT WE'VE ALSO HAD PEOPLE COME INTO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS AND THEY'RE INVESTING IN DISTRESS, BUYING UP TAX LIENS, FORECLOSURES AND SO FORTH.

UM, BUT I'VE COME TO ASK, WHY DON'T WE HAVE A PAYMENT PLAN LIKE SOME OTHER MUNICIPALITIES FOR TAXES, PROPERTY TAXES, THEY'RE DUE ONCE A YEAR, UM, IN MAY, AND THERE'S NO ABILITY FOR PEOPLE TO BREAK THEIR TAXES INTO PAYMENTS.

THERE'S SOME MUNICIPALITIES IN ROCKLAND COUNTY WHO HAVE PAYMENT PLANS, I BELIEVE NEW ROCHELLE DOES.

THERE'S OTHER CITIES AND TOWNS IN NEW YORK STATE THAT HAVE FOUGHT MUCH OF THEIR RESIDENTS AND MUCH OF THE STRUGGLE AND SAID, WELL, WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S HARDSHIPS.

YOU HAVE MORTGAGES TO PAY, YOU HAVE OTHER THINGS GOING ON.

THERE'S COVID PANDEMIC WHOLE LOT.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO PROPERTY TAXES, I THINK GREENBERG SHOULD LOOK INTO AND, YOU KNOW, HAVING PAYMENT PLANS, UM, PARTICULARLY FOR, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE STRUGGLING AND ARE LOSING THEIR HOMES AT VERY HIGH RATES.

MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS NO LONGER THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT I, UM, KNOW ANYMORE BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES.

SO IF YOU COULD THINK ABOUT MAYBE HAVING A PAYMENT PLAN, UM, TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO PAY THEIR PROPERTY TAXES, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

UM, ALSO, I ALSO HAD A, UM, A COMMENT, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE RECTIFIED ABOUT PARKING.

UM, THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, I MADE A COMMENT ON THE VOLVO, UM, EMPLOYEES PARKING ALONG OUR STREETS AND CUTTING THROUGH.

WE OWN SEVERAL PROPERTIES IN THAT AREA.

UM, EVERY DAY WHEN I LEAVE, I RISK MY LIFE COMING DOWN MAPLE STREET AND MAKING A LEFT TURN ON TO MANHATTAN AVENUE BECAUSE FOR SOME REASON THERE'S NO PARKING ALLOWED ON MANHATTAN AVENUE.

BUT ON THE HILL COMING DOWN FROM OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD TO MANHATTAN AVENUE, PARKING IS ALLOWED.

THERE'S BIG LARGE COMMERCIAL TRUCKS, THERE'S VOLVO EMPLOYEE CARS AND YOU CAN'T SEE AND YOU'RE FORCED TO VENTURE OUT AND THERE MIGHT BE A CAR COMING DOWN THE HILL AND YOU'RE BASICALLY DRIVING BLIND.

UM, SO I THINK A NO PARKING SIGN SHOULD BE EXTENDED ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP, ESPECIALLY TO THE MOST DANGEROUS PART.

AND THE LAST THING I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT REALLY QUICKLY IS, UM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, THEY CHANGED THE FLOORING AFTER THE STORM OF THE FLOOD.

AND THE NEW FLOORING DOESN'T ALLOW ROLLERSKATING.

THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN A BIG PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

IT ACTUALLY IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY GOES BACK TO THE CIVIL RIGHTS ERA WITH ROLLER SKATING.

THERE'S A HISTORY BEHIND THAT.

IT WAS A TIME FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER.

AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEW FLOOR DOESN'T FACILITATE ROLLER SKATING, AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF FUNDS WERE RAISED, IF WE CAN GET THAT BACK.

IT'S A VALUABLE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, UM, EVENT BASICALLY.

SO I JUST WANTED TO PUT DOWN ON THE RECORD.

YEAH, I, I JUST, UH, YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I, I DIDN'T, I MM-HMM.

, I JUST WANTED TO ASK YOU A QUESTION VIS-A-VIS THE PAYMENT PLAN.

YOU MENTIONED OTHER MUNICIPALITIES MM-HMM.

, CAN YOU BE SPECIFIC SO THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT? YEAH, I MEAN, THERE'S A WHOLE LIST.

I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE.

I CAME KIND OF UNPREPARED TONIGHT, BUT THERE WERE, I THINK THERE'S THREE, UM, MUNICIPALITIES IN ROCKLAND COUNTY THAT HAVE PAYMENT PLANS.

UM, SUFFOLK COUNTY, THERE'S SOME THAT HAVE PAYMENT PLANS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY BREAK UP.

IF YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION, I CAN A LIST GET YEAH.

BUT THERE'S A, A LOT THAT DO HAVE PAYMENT PLANS.

JUST SO FOR THEIR RESIDENTS.

WE COULD, UM, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE CAN HAVE, LOOK INTO IT.

I'VE, I'VE BROUGHT THAT UP, YOU KNOW, IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I, IN FACT, WE HAD A MEETING WITH A CONTROLLER A FEW DAYS AGO.

KNOW, SOMETIMES THERE'S PEOPLE WHO, THEY'LL PAY THEIR TAXES FEBRUARY 1ST, IT'S DUE JANUARY 30TH, AND THEY'LL GET A THOUSAND DOLLARS PENALTY.

BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE THE PENALTIES.

I FEEL THEY'RE TOO EXCESSIVE.

AND, YOU

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UM, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK THAT'S UNFAIR.

BUT ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THERE ISN'T A PAYMENT PLAN, BECAUSE I'VE SPOKEN TO THE CONTROLLER, YOU KNOW, MANY TIMES ABOUT, ABOUT THIS, AND I THINK THIS WOULD REQUIRE EITHER WESTCHESTER COUNTY OR, OR STATE LEGISLATION.

I, I FORGET, WHICH IS THE TOWN.

UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD A PAYMENT PLAN AND PEOPLE WOULDN'T PAY THE TAXES, YOU KNOW, UH, WELL ON ONES WE, IT WOULD BE VERY COSTLY TO THE TOWN BECAUSE WE BASICALLY NEED THAT REVENUE.

AND, UM, AND THEN IT WOULD MEAN THAT WE WOULD CHARGE, HAVE TO INCREASE THE TAXES MORE TO OFFSET THE LOSS, YOU KNOW, LOST REVENUE.

SO THAT, I THINK YOU COULD HAVE INSTALLMENT CHARGES.

THAT'S A BIG, NOW MAYBE THE STATE COULD AUTHORIZE US TO HAVE INSTALLMENT PLANS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE, SAY, SENIOR CITIZENS UNLIMIT OR PEOPLE, UNLIMITED INCOMES.

PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD HARDSHIPS, SAY WITH, YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY WERE UNEMPLOYED.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S THINGS THAT COULD BE CARVED OUT.

NO, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT.

UM, BUT THERE'S DEFINITELY A COST I WANTED TO MENTION IN TERMS OF THE, UM, THE ROLLER SKATING.

I, I PARTICIPATED IN THE ROLLER SKATING, I THINK A FEW TIMES.

AND, UM, I LOVED IT.

SO I THINK THAT THAT'S A, IT WAS REALLY FUN.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT MORE WAYS OF ENCOURAGING PEOPLE WHO, UH, WHO DON'T USE A CENTER TO WANT TO USE A CENTER.

AND I THINK THE ROLLER SKATING INITIATIVE, WHEN THEY HAD, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT BROUGHT PEOPLE TO THE CENTER.

NOW, I, I REMEMBER, UH, I WASN'T A GOOD ROLLER SKATER, BUT I, I LIKED IT.

AND MY DAUGHTER WAS VERY SMALL WHEN WE PARTICIPATED.

I ALSO WANT TO MENTION WITH THE SIDEWALKS, YOU REALLY, A LOT OF IT IS JUST, UM, MONEY.

UM, SO THE THING IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN BUILDING SIDEWALKS ALL OVER, AND I THINK THIS WEEK OR NEXT WEEK, THEY'RE STARTING THE WORK ON HILLSIDE AVENUE.

SO WITHIN FOUR MONTHS FROM HERE, ALL THE WAY TO PARKWAY GARDENS, THERE'S GONNA BE A SIDEWALK BUILT.

AND, UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF ALL TARRYTOWN ROAD, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A NEED TO EXTENDED, THEN THE RESIDENT SHOULD, LIKE, YOU SHOULD HIGHLIGHT IT.

AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING THE, THAT CONCERN.

FOR EXAMPLE, IN JUNIPER HILL, UM, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, WE PUT A SIDEWALK ON FAIR STREET, BUT IT WASN'T ENOUGH.

AND NOW AT THE END OF THIS YEAR AND INTO NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GONNA BE BUILDING A SIDEWALK, UH, ON, ON JUNIPER HILL, HEADING TOWARDS THE, UH, LEE JACKSON SCHOOL.

SO JUST BECAUSE IT'S NOT FINISHED DOESN'T MEAN WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT BECAUSE, UH, YOU, I JUST THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF SIDEWALKS THAT, THAT NEED TO BE DONE.

AND AS I SAID, I THINK, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE HERE, I FEEL FROM LIKE DOULA OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD DUAL STREET TO THE BRU RIVER PARKWAY, UM, WOULD BE LIKE FABULOUS.

I THINK THAT WOULD BE REALLY A GREAT SIDEWALK WITH A SAFE CROSSWALK.

UM, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS WHO WOULD WANNA WALK, UM, YOU KNOW YEAH.

TO THE TRAIN STATION.

THAT'S TRUE.

BUT I, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR, YOUR SUGGESTIONS.

ALL RIGHT.

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

YEAH, NO, WELL BEFORE YOU GO THE, UH, THE FLOORING SITUATION IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER, YES.

WE, WE HAD A, A GREAT FLOOR, BUT THEN WE HAD A FLOOD, AND OF COURSE, THAT BUCKLED THE FLOOR AND IT WAS USELESS.

WE TOOK IT BACK UP AGAIN.

WE PUT IT BACK WITH BASICALLY THE SAME TYPE OF FLOORING THAT I GUESS YOU COULD ROLLER SKATE ON.

BUT THEN WE HAD A FLOOD AND WE HAD TO TAKE IT BACK UP AGAIN.

SO THE THIRD TIME, LEARNING FROM THE FIRST TWO, THE GOAL WAS TO FIND SOMETHING THAT WOULD SURVIVE FLOODING.

'CAUSE THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS VERY LOW.

AND EVEN THOUGH WE PUT THINGS ACROSS THE DOOR TO TRY AND KEEP THE WATER OUT, IT STILL FLOODS.

AND SO THE PRIORITY, JUST AS TO TELL YOU WHY IT WAS CHANGED, WAS FOR IT TO SURVIVE A FLOOD.

SO THAT, SO THE MATERIAL THERE IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BUCKLE IN A FLOOD.

NOW IT TURNS OUT, UH, AND YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT, THAT THAT MATERIAL THAT DOESN'T BUCKLE IN A FLOOD HAS A DISADVANTAGE.

I GUESS THE PEOPLE THAT DO THESE KIND OF THINGS HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD AND SEE IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T BL UH, BUCKLE.

AND YET YOU CAN USE FOR ROLLER SKATING.

THE VOLVO DEALER, IT'S A COMMERCIAL.

AND SO YOU RAISE A, RAISE A GOOD POINT.

BUT I JUST, IT WASN'T JUST DONE RANDOMLY.

IT WAS DONE FOR A REASON IN CHANGING THE MATERIAL OF THE FLOORING.

UH, AND REGARDING THE, UM, UH,

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WHY DOESN'T IT HAVE SIDEWALKS? WE CAN'T RETROACTIVELY GO BACK AND ASK A COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNER, YOU NEED TO PUT IN, IF YOU WANNA STAY IN BUSINESS, YOU HAVE TO PUT IN SIDEWALKS.

NOW, IF THEY COME IN TO EXPAND OR NEED SOME KIND OF AN APPROVAL MM-HMM.

FOR, YOU KNOW, MODIFYING THEIR SITE PLAN, THEN WE COULD ACTUALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO CONTINUE THIS SIDEWALK ALONG AND WE HAVE SOMETHING TO WORK WITH.

THEY JUST CAME IN LAST WEEK.

I MEAN, THAT'S WHY I WAS HERE, THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING, SO, RIGHT.

BUT THAT, SO IF THERE'S INTEREST THOUGH, WE CAN LOOK FOR GRANTS TO SEE IF WE CAN PUT THE EXTENSION TO THAT BECAUSE YOU, IT IS A RE TREACHEROUS, UH, YEAH, UH, CURVE.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, IT LOOKS LIKE, WHERE IT'S NOT SO BAD, YOU KNOW, THE SIDEWALKS AND THEN IT GETS TO, BUT THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, WE CAN DO.

I JUST WANT TO REITERATE, IF YOU GUYS ARE GONNA VOTE ON THAT 10,000 SQUARE FOOT PRO LEAFBLOWER THAT IT OUGHT, DOES INCORPORATE THE MUNICIPALITY OF TOWN, OF GREENBURG AND ALL ITS FACILITIES, THE POOL, THE, THE PARKS, EVERYTHING.

EVERYBODY SHOULD BE LIMITED.

IT SHOULDN'T JUST BE, UH, YOU KNOW, INDIVIDUAL TAXPAYERS.

IT SHOULD BE THE TOWN.

ALSO, I PAY TAXES AND WHAT'S GOOD FOR THE GOOSE IS GOOD FOR THE GANDER.

SO MAKE SURE THAT YOU, YOU DO THAT IF YOU DO VOTE ON IT.

JOE.

IS THERE IS THERE ARE, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.

DON'T HAVE THAT EXACT WORDING RIGHT NOW THOUGH.

UH, I'LL PULL IT UP.

I'M TAKE TRYING TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.

UH, I WAS TB ONE.

I WILL ANSWER ONE SECOND.

UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T GO ON AGENDA QUICK WHILE I'M HERE.

I I THINK I'LL HAVE IT IN ONE MOMENT.

I GOT IT.

NO, WE'RE WORKING ON IT.

THERE'S A FIREWALL I CAN'T GET THROUGH WHILE I'M HERE.

I'M HAVING AN ISSUE AS WELL.

UM, JUST GIMME ONE SECOND.

DO YOU HAVE TO VOTE TONIGHT? YEAH, WE DID HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

IT'S ALREADY CLOSED.

AND THAT WASN'T SEPARATE.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LAW FROM LAST TIME, THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

BUT WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

I HAD, YOU KNOW, IT HASN'T CHANGED SINCE THEN.

I DON'T KNOW WHY I CAN'T PULL IT UP.

I HAD IT UP EARLIER.

WE COULD ALWAYS, SO WHY DON'T WE DO IT ON TUESDAY? WE DID, LET'S PUT IT ON FOR TUESDAY.

WANNA MOVE IT TO TUESDAY? WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL HOLD IT OVER UNTIL TUESDAY.

THE CALL THERE WAS EXEMPTIONS TO, FOR, FOR MUNICIPALITY.

WHAT'S THAT? THE, THE MUNICIPALITIES HAVE VERY LARGE TRACKS OF LAND WITH, RIGHT, RIGHT.

SO IT, IT IS A, A HEAVY LIFT.

UM, I BELIEVE THERE WAS AN EXEMPTION.

I'M SORRY, I'M HAVING TROUBLE PULLING IT UP RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING.

IT'S AN EXCEPTION IN, UH, AN EMERGENCY SITUATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE DOCUMENTED IN A BOOK BY THE COMMISSIONER.

UM, SORRY.

COMPENSATION CASE.

WHAT'S THAT? NO, NOTHING.

JUST, HE'S TRYING TO SAY I BEAT HIM UP A LITTLE EXTRA REVENUE.

THAT'S NOT GONNA GET YOU

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RICH.

WHAT? THAT'S NOT GONNA GET YOU RICH AT THE END OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

WELL, YOU'RE LOOKING FOR, THERE'S ONE MORE.

LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

WE'RE HOLD, WHAT'S THE CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD IF THERE IS AN EXCEPTION ON THE BASIS OF EMERGENCIES FOR THE TOWN? IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD TAKE OUT OR SHOULD WE LEAVE IT IN? YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WELL, WE CAN'T MAKE THAT JUDGMENT NOW, CAN WE? NO, BUT I'M SAYING, DOES ANYBODY FEEL THAT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'VE ALWAYS, I I ALWAYS THINK THAT WE SHOULD PRACTICE WHAT WE PREACH.

UH, SO IT WOULD JUST BE AN EMERGENCY FOR THE TOWN.

SO IT WOULD BE LIKE, IF WE HAD A HURRICANE EMERGENCY FOR A HOMEOWNER OR A PROPERTY OWNER, IT WOULD BE THE SAME THING.

WE WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THEM MORE THAN ONE BLOWER PER 10,000 SQUARE FEET BECAUSE THEY, WE HAD A HURRICANE OR WE HAD A WINDSTORM OR THE SAME AS THE, AS THE TOWN WOULD BE ABLE TO, IF THE TOWN DO REAL FAR, IT'S OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

AND THEN JUST LIKE AN INTERESTING POINT, JOE, IF UH, IF LET'S SAY THERE'D BE A HURRICANE, UM, THEN YOU WOULD DECLARE AN EMERGENCY RIGHT? WOULD THEN THE 10,000 RULE WOULD NOT APPLY.

WELL IT DOESN'T APPLY.

THAT NOT LISTED AS AN EXEMPTION.

ISN'T ACTUAL.

WE SHOULD JUST HOLD IT OVER AND NOT HAVE THE DISCUSSION NOW.

BUT ON, ON A REGULAR BASIS, THE TOWN WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO USE A LEAF BLOWER.

YOU KNOW WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, SINCE WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ACCESS IT, OKAY.

WHY DON'T WE HOLD IT OVER UNTIL, UNTIL TUESDAY UNTIL THE SPECIAL MEETING AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.

ESPECIALLY WITH AFTER WHAT WE HEARD ABOUT PARTICLES AND KIDS, UH, YOU KNOW, PLAYING IN THE PARKS AND IN THE POOLS AND ALL THAT.

THERE'S, THEY SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE LEAF BLOWERS EITHER IF WE'RE NOT BEING ABLE TO.

SO, WELL, I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT WE, SO WE'LL JUST HOLD IT OVER TILL TUESDAY.

WE'LL HOLD IT OVER.

PULL IT UP.

SO THAT'S FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

SO I'LL GO TO THE REGULAR TOWN.

WE'LL START THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.

NO, THERE'S ONE MORE PERSON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AND THAT IS MARK DE FABIO.

YOU'RE STARTING US OFF AND ENDING US, HUH? I THINK I SIGNED ON THE SIDE THE DATE AND THEN JOSEPH OF THE UH, DATE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO, WASN'T IT? YES.

LET ME GO BACK TO THAT MEETING AND SEE IF I CAN GET THROUGH.

OH, MICHAEL.

SO THE, I JUST WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR, UH, EXCUSE ME FOR MY IGNORANCE ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

UM, SO IT'S ONE BLOWER FOR 10,000 SQUARE FEET ALL YEAR ROUND? YES.

I MEAN, THAT IS TOTALLY, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE WHATSOEVER.

'CAUSE IF I HAVE 10 HOUSES ON ONE BLOCK, WHAT ARE YOU GONNA ACCOMPLISH? IF I PUT ONE MAN ON EVERY ONE OF THOSE HOUSES ON THAT ONE BLOCK ALL DAY, INSTEAD OF HAVING A CREW GOING THROUGH EACH HOUSE RAPIDLY? THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER.

JUST LIKE IF YOU PUT ONE PERSON WITH A HAMMER AND A BAG OF NAILS TRYING TO BUILD A HOUSE, THAT ONE PERSON'S GONNA TAKE 'EM YEARS.

IF YOU HAVE A WHOLE CREW, IT TAKES A FRACTION OF THE TIME.

'CAUSE PEOPLE ARE BLOWING FROM DIFFERENT ANGLES, GETTING IT DONE.

AND YOU, YOU MOVE ON TO THE NEXT HOUSE.

TIME IS MONEY TO US.

OUR BIGGEST EXPENSE IS LABOR.

THE FASTER WE GET A HOUSE DONE, THE FASTER WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT HOUSE FOR THE NEXT NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IF I HAVE 10 HOUSES ON ONE BLOCK IN GREENBURG, I HAVE ENOUGH MEN, I COULD PUT ONE PERSON ON EVERY HOUSE AND BLOW ALL DAY.

I DON'T THINK YOU'RE ACHIEVING ANYTHING AS LONG AS YOU DON'T EXCEED THE NOISE ORDINANCE.

BUT YOU'RE NOT ACHIEVING ANYTHING THOUGH.

I, I DON'T UNDERST UNDERSTAND.

BUT IF, IF YOU'RE PUTTING A, A BLOWER ON, DEPENDING ON EACH INDIVIDUAL HOUSE, EACH INDIVIDUAL HOUSE, RIGHT.

NONE OF THE, IF THEY COMMUN CU UH, CUMULATIVELY GO OVER THE SEVEN FIVE DECIBELS, YOU CAN'T DO IT.

WHY? I HAVE ONE PERSON SERVICING ONE TAX.

YOU CAN'T EXCEED THE DECIMAL LEVEL.

THAT'S WHY PEOPLE ARE, THAT'S WHY THIS IS AN ISSUE.

IF, IF YOU'RE PUTTING A CONCENTRATED NUMBER OF BLOWERS NEAR SOMEBODY AND YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE I WAS GONNA SAY BLOWING THE, UH, BUT I'M THE DECIMAL LEVEL, I'M THE INDIVIDUAL CUSTOMERS, IT DOESN'T MATTER.

SO I CAN'T, NO ONE CAN EXCEED THE DECIBEL LEVEL.

YOU TURN YOURS ON, YOU'RE CONTRIBUTING NO ONE PERSON WHAT? NO ONE PERSON.

IF, IF YOU TAKE A READING, A TOWN ATTORNEY CAN SAY, IF I'M WRONG, YOU TAKE A READING, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN DISTANCE FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

AND IT EXCEEDS THE, THE DECIBEL LEVEL.

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SO, BUT YOU MIGHT NOT BE A CHIEF FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

IF I HAVE, I'M DOING 10 HOUSES AND ONE BLOWER AT THAT DECIBEL LEVEL THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU'RE, YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT A HOUSE 10 A ROW OF 10 HOUSES EACH HAVING A BLOWER.

ONE BLOWER.

SO 10 BLOWERS RIGHT WITHIN THAT AND, AND THE PROPERTIES OF THE, HOLD ON A SECOND, LET ME FINISH TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.

I'M, AND THE PROPERTIES OF EACH OF THOSE HOUSES, UM, ARE ARE LESS THAN 10,000 FEET.

SO THAT'S WHAT YOU, YOU'RE TRYING TO SAY.

SO THAT, OR YOU WERE SAYING, BUT THAT CLARIFIES IT FOR ME.

FORGET WE'RE PROFESSIONAL.

UM, AND THEN, THEN WHAT, WHAT, UM, COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEN IS SAYING IS THAT IF YOU HAVE THEM AT THE SAME TIME, YOU'RE WITHIN THE TWO, WITHIN THE 10,000 FEET, THEREFORE YOU'VE EXCEEDED WHAT SHOULD BE DONE IN THE, IN TERMS OF DECIBEL LEVEL.

SO YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THAT THEN YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A BLOWER EACH HOUSE, SKIP EVERY, MAYBE SKIP EVERYTHING.

, YOU KNOW, IT, IT JUST, IT, I THINK IT'S ANOTHER ATTACK A WAY, ANOTHER WAY TO GET BLOWERS OFF OF THE PROPERTY.

CAN I JUST, CAN I ASK A QUESTION? LEMME JUST, LEMME JUST ASK A QUESTION REALLY QUICK BEFORE YOU GO.

I'M GONNA PROPOSE THIS TO JOE AND, AND WHAT THE BOARD, JUST FOR CLARITY, SO IF THIS GENTLEMAN AND THIS GENTLEMAN ARE, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I'M GOING, YEAHAND, IF THIS GENTLEMAN AND THIS GENTLEMAN ARE ON THE BLOCK, RIGHT? TWO DIFFERENT COMPANIES, MAYBE EVEN FOUR DIFFERENT COMPANIES, THEY JUST HAPPEN TO SHOW UP AT THE SAME TIME.

SO THAT MEANS EACH OF THEM ARE GOING TO GET SUMMONED OR, OR, OR BECAUSE THEY ARE WITH DIFFERENT COMPANIES.

DOESN'T MATTER.

AND, AND THAT'S, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, RIGHT? IF THEY HAVE DIFFERENT COMPANIES AND AN INDIVIDUAL BLOWER, THAT MEANS ELLEN, KEN, PAUL, GINA CAN GO TO EACH DIFF INDIVIDUAL HOMES IS GINA, UH, WE ALL GONNA GET SUMMONED BECAUSE WE'RE DOING OUR, WE ARE USING OUR LAWS THE SAME TIME.

OR BECAUSE GINA, WHO'S SEPARATE? PAUL WHO'S SEPARATE? KEN WHO'S SEPARATE? ELLEN WHO'S SEPARATE.

IT DOESN'T COUNT AS ONE.

I JUST WANTED CLARITY.

TAKE THE SAME EXAMPLE.

YOU GUYS ARE RIGHT THERE.

SIX OR EIGHT HOMEOWNERS.

HE DOES HIS HOUSE SAME TIME YOU SAME TIME, SAME TIME AS YOU.

WHAT YOU GUYS ACCOMPLISH.

THE NOISES NOW JUST MULTIPLY.

THAT'S WHAT I, I'M JUST TRYING TO POINT CLARITY ON.

CORRECT.

SO WHO WE GONNA GET FINE, EACH NEIGHBOR GET FINED.

WELL THAT, THAT IT MAKES NO SENSE THAT THAT, THAT YOU GOTTA, YOU'VE GOT YOURSELF A LITTLE NO HOW MANY PROPERTIES, BUT THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR THE ENFORCING OFFICER WHO HAS THE DECAL READER AND HOW THE, THE AMOUNT OF DEPOS IS DISTRIBUTED.

BUT I I I WOULD SAY THAT IF THERE IS A PERSON ON EACH ONE OF THEIR INDIVIDUAL LOTS MM-HMM , THAT IF THEY HAVE A BLOWER THAT IS LESS THAN 75 DECIBEL LEVEL INDIVIDUAL, INDIVIDUAL, THAT THEY WILL NOT RECEIVE A VIOLATION.

WELL WHY DON'T INSTEAD OF A DEBATE.

NOW WE WHY DON'T WE PUT IT ON FOR NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A DEBATE.

PAUL.

I THINK WE NEED TO ASK, WE NEED TO GET CLARITY.

NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WE'RE NOT VOTING ON IT TODAY.

SO WE'RE NOT DEBATE TO CLARITY.

I'M TRYING TO GET OUR VIEWS RIGHT.

SO WHY DON'T I ASK THE POLICE ALREADY ENFORCING AGENTS TO WEIGH IN ON THAT ANSWER BY TUESDAY'S.

I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ENFORCING AGENT.

I THINK IT'S WHAT YOU GUYS ARE MAKING IN THE LAW.

LET'S JUST THINK ABOUT IT.

I'M SIR.

SO DO ME A FAVOR, IF YOU COULD JUST COME UP PLEASE SO EVERYONE CAN PARTICIPATE.

YOU HAVE, CAN I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING? SURE, SURE.

I'M SORRY.

'CAUSE I DID INTERRUPT YOU.

LET, LET ME LET HIM, LET, LET HIM JUST FINISH.

'CAUSE I DID INTERRUPT HIM.

I THINK WE'RE JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY IT.

SAME THING.

LET'S LET'S JUST SAY SMALLER THAN I HAVE A COMPANY CU I EMPLOY 25 EMPLOYEES.

MY BIGGEST THING IS ONE SECTION OF GREENBURG.

LET'S USE EACH ARCHDALE AVENUE.

'CAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EACH ARCHDALE AVENUE.

THAT'S MY BUSINESS, RIGHT? I HAVE 25 CUSTOMERS THERE.

I PUT ONE MAN ON EACH HOUSE.

, TECHNICALLY YOUR LAW SAYS ONE BLOWER IS ALLOWED PER 10,000 SQUARE FEET.

I'M WORKING FOR JOE.

I DON'T HAVE THE PERSON I'M WORKING FOR.

COUNCILMAN HENDRICK, SEPARATE MAN IS THERE WORKING FOR COUNCILMAN JONES SUPERVISOR.

THE SAME QUESTION I JUST ASKED.

I'M DOING ONE EACH INDIVIDUAL.

THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY THE CLARITY, THAT'S WHY I WANT THE TOWN ATTORNEY TO WIN ON THE CLARITY OF IT.

AND I JUST AGAIN, IN IN ALL WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO EVERYBODY, IT'S ALREADY 1130.

IT'S LATE.

SO IT IS LATE.

BUT I WANNA MAKE SURE, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YES, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, AND I THINK WE'RE CLEAR ON THE QUESTION.

I THINK THE, THE BOARD IS CLEAR ON YOUR QUESTION.

I JUST WANNA HAVE THIS GENTLE, MAKE IT AN OPPORTUNITY TO FINISH WITH YOUR STATEMENT.

AND SO WE CAN KIND OF, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE ANOTHER, WE STILL HAVE SOME ANOTHER.

I'LL BE REAL QUICK.

IF IT, IF EACH HOMEOWNER'S ALLOWED TO DO IT, YOU'RE NOT ACHIEVING ANYTHING.

BECAUSE

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YOU'RE JUST PUNISHING A PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPE COMPANY.

IF EVERY HOMEOWNER ON THAT BLOCK IS ALLOWED TO USE THAT BLOWER EVERY, AT EACH TIME AT THE SAME TIME, I'M NOT SURE IF, IF THE, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T EXCEED THE LEVEL, BIRD IS PUNISHED, AS LONG AS THEY DON'T EXCEED.

I UNDERSTAND.

BUT, BUT WHERE BUT WHERE IT CREATES THE PROBLEM AT WHICH WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IS THAT THE NOISE LEVEL CUMULATIVELY WILL BE GREATER.

SO WE HAVE TO, THAT'S SOMETHING I THINK'S SOME LOOK AT.

THERE'S AT SOME CLARITY THAT NEEDS TO BE, THERE'S SOME CLARITY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

JUST WANNA MAKE ONE STATEMENT.

EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF ANXIETY ABOUT LANDSCAPING COMPANIES AND MAINTENANCE COMPANIES WITH THE NOISE LEVEL.

DURING COVID, WE WERE DEEMED AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE.

IF WE'RE THAT EVIL AND OUR EQUIPMENT IS THAT EVIL, WHY ARE WE DEEMED ESSENTIAL? WE'RE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS HAVE LANDSCAPE COMPANIES.

, MOST HOMEOWNERS, I WOULD SAY DON'T DO THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

SO, AND MOST HOMEOWNERS AREN'T GONNA COME OUT HERE.

AND FIGHT FOR THIS LIKE WE ARE BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST GONNA SAY, WOW, HOW'D THAT HAPPEN? BECAUSE THIS ISN'T GOING UP FOR A PUBLIC VOTE.

UM, I THINK, BUT WE DID HAVE, WE DID HAVE A PUBLIC COMMENT VOTE WE HAD.

IT'S, WELL, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF PUBLIC VOTE.

THE PUBLIC VOTE IS IF YOU SEND NOVEMBER IF YOU SEND OUT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT REALLY WE, WE'VE EXCEEDED APPRECIATE.

I APPRECIATE THANK YOU.

I THINK WE'RE, I THINK, I THINK WE'RE REALLY CLEAR AND SO WE'RE GONNA LEAVE.

SO IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, TB ONE IS GOING TO BE JUST A MOMENT.

I JUST WANNA ASK THE QUESTION.

I I FOUND IT.

OH, AND I IT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

THE NEW CHAPTER 3 74 HAS A CARVE OUT FOR PARKS AND D P W THREE 80 DOES NOT, THREE 80 DOES NOT ADDRESS THE UM, D P W OR THE, SO WHAT WHAT THREE 80 DOES IS IT'S LIMITED TO 3 87 I, UH, THREE 80 DASH SEVEN I AND IT TAKES OUT THE WORD GASOLINE.

SO THE OPERATION OF GAS, OF POWERED LAWNMOWERS, LEAF BLOWERS OR OTHER POWERED LAWN OR GARDEN EQUIPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION TOOLS IS PROHIBITED BETWEEN THE HOURS OF 8:00 PM AND 8:00 AM ANY WEEKDAY BEFORE 9:00 AM OR AFTER 6:00 PM SATURDAY OR ANY HOLIDAY OR BEFORE 11:00 AM OR AFTER 6:00 PM SUNDAY OPERATION OF A POWERED LAWNMOWER LEAF BLOWER OR OTHER POWERED LAWN OR GARDEN EQUIPMENT OR CONSTRUCTION TOOL MAY NOT EXCEED 75 INCREASED FROM 55 75 DECIBEL, UM, AVERAGE AT ANY TIME.

THE SIMULTANEOUS OPERATION OF MORE THAN ONE LEAF BLOWER ON A PROPERTY OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET OR LESS IN AREA IS PROHIBITED.

THE SIMULTANEOUS OPERATION OF FOUR OR MORE LEASE BLOWERS ON ANY SIZE PARCEL IS PROHIBITED.

THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE IN THE LAW.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PARKS, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, UH, D P W.

THE ONE THAT WE WERE DISCUSSING TONIGHT, 3 74 THAT HAS A CARVE OUT.

THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION.

MAKE MY LAST, 'CAUSE I WAS COMING, I WAS TRYING TO HELP COUNCILMAN THERE.

I THINK WHAT WE MAYBE IS NEEDED IN THERE, 'CAUSE LIKE WE SAID, 10,000 SQUARE FEET DEPENDS IF YOU HAVE LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER LANDSCAPERS SAID SEVEN TREES, IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING WHERE THE HOUSE THAT HAS ONLY ONE TREE, IT OR THE LAW NEEDS TO BE REFINED AND SAY, HEY, IT'S ALLOWED OCTOBER WHEN THE LEAVES ARE HEAVY, BUT ONLY ONE SHOULD BE ALLOWED IN AUGUST OR SEPTEMBER WHEN THE LEAVES ARE LIGHT.

UM, 'CAUSE THERE IS, THERE WAS DEFINITELY PART OF THAT'S MISSING IN THERE.

I THINK THE LAW, 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN INTO ALMOST BEING PRESIDENT, ALMOST EVERY MUNICIPALITY GOING THROUGH THIS AND I THINK YOU GUYS ARE MISSING SOME THINGS IN THERE.

UH, SO MAYBE YOU SHOULD PUT IT OFF FOR A LITTLE BIT.

IF YOU WANT TO CALL, I CAN OUR OFFICE, WE CAN GIVE YOU A LOT MORE HELP AND INFORMATION ON THAT.

WE JUST WENT THROUGH THAT WITH CITY OF RYE AND RYE BROOK AND WE CAME TO A COMPROMISE THAT THE HOMEOWNERS ARE HAPPY.

UM, THE TOWN IS HAPPY AND THE LANDSCAPERS ARE HAPPY.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE WILLING TO DO THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

ACTUALLY HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS AND I'LL GO BACK AND READ THE TRANSCRIPT, BUT I THINK OUR TOWN ATTORNEY LEFT LOVED IT.

HAVE THE LANDSCAPE OF ADVISORY COUNCIL.

WELL WE

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RIGHT? AND NOW YOU'RE TELLING US THAT WHAT WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON, WHICH IS THE EXACT SAME LANGUAGE THAT YOU LOVED, YOU'RE TELLING US, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY WE TABLE IT.

IF WE TABLED IT, THE CURRENT DECIBEL LEVEL IS 55 DECIBELS.

GO OUTSIDE OF TOWN HALL AND STAND THERE.

YOU COULD USE YOUR PHONE AND YOU'RE PROBABLY, AND YOU'RE PROBABLY AROUND 50 TO 52 DECIBELS WITHOUT TURNING ON ANY BLOWERS.

SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIX THAT, BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE, THERE'S GOTTA BE SOME REASONABLE TO TO UH, THIS, TO IT.

I CAN SHOW YOU A PICTURE OF SEVEN BLOWERS BEING USED WITHIN A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT AREA NOW, RIGHT? YES.

SO HOW DO WE REGULATE IT? YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T JUST RELY ON EVERY PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPER OR EVERY LANDSCAPER IS GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING TO MAKE SURE THE NOISE DOESN'T GET SO HIGH THAT WE GET EMAILS DOZENS OF ALMOST DAILY REGARDING THE NOISE LEVEL, RIGHT? IF EVERYBODY ACTED RESPONSIBLY AND SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS GETTING REALLY LOUD.

MAYBE I SHOULD NOT DO IT THIS WAY.

I DON'T THINK WE'D HAVE THIS ISSUE, BUT WE DO.

WHY DON'T WE DISCUSS IT ON TUESDAY BECAUSE 1130, BUT IT'S THE ONLY THING I THINK LAST TIME I THINK IT WAS WHAT YOU GUYS PROPOSED WAS A COMPROMISE.

YOU SAID, HEY, WE'RE ONLY GONNA ALLOW TO USE THEM TWO DAYS A WEEK.

AND THEN THEY SAID, OH, OKAY, NOW THEY'RE GONNA ALLOW US TO USE IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY LOOKED INTO ALL THE .

OKAY, WELL, WE'LL WE'LL DISCUSS THE REST OF IT ON, WE HAVE, WE, WE PUT IT OFF TILL TUESDAY.

A DECIMAL.

OKAY, SO, UH, SO, UM, TB ONE IS HELD OVER UNTIL UNTIL TUESDAY

[ TB 2 - 5/10/2023 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh authorizing the Town Supervisor to execute an agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and the Village of Elmsford to provide Fire Protection Services to residents of the North Elmsford Fire Protection District, for the year 2023, for an amount not to exceed $837,414.13]

TB TWO RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG AND VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO RESIDENTS OF THE NORTH ELMSFORD FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR THE YEAR 2023 FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 8 3 7 4 1 4 13.

AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO RESIDENTS OF THE WALL ELMSFORD FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR THE YEAR 2023 FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 2 72 3 24 96.

TB THREE

[ TB 3 - 5/10/2023 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to execute an agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and the Village of Elmsford to provide Fire Protection Services to residents of the West Elmsford Fire Protection District, for the year 2023, for an amount not to exceed $272,324.96]

SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE WITH THAT.

[ TB 4 - 5/10/2023 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh adopting a local Law Amending Chapter 100 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh entitled “Building, Fire and Plumbing” as it relates to fire alarm systems and fuel piping systems ]

OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ADOPTING A LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER A HUNDRED OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED BUILDING FIRE AND PLUMBING AS IT RELATES TO FIRE ALARM SYSTEMS AND FUEL PIPING SYSTEMS. WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT AS AMENDED AS AMENDED.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE AYE.

[ AT 1 - 5/10/2023 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Elms Holding Corp. for property located at 115 East Main Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $216±; the County’s share is $1,613±; the Bronx Valley Sewer District’s share is $216±; the Elmsford Union Free School District’s share is $9,532±. Refunds from all sources total $11,578±.]

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX TERTIARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER ELM UM, HOLDING CORP FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE 15 EAST MAIN STREET.

BRIEF REFUND FROM WALL SOURCES TOTAL 11,000 5 78.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT.

SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.

TAX ARY SETTLEMENT WITH, UH, PETITIONERS, UH, LEE YNK AND SEND LEE AND ORKIN AND FAN HUNG FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 33 LINWOOD TOTAL AMOUNT 16,000 7 69.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING

[ AT 2 - 5/10/2023 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioners Li Yink & Sen Li and/or Kin & Fan Hong for property located at 33 Lynwood Rd. and 449 Central Park Avenue. The Town’s share of the refund is $2,923±; the County’s share is $1,621±; the Bronx Valley Sewer District’s share is $230±; the Edgemont Union Free School District’s share is $10,111±; the Greenville Fire District’s share is $1,778±; the Consolidated Sewer Mtc. District’s share is $106±. Refunds from all sources total $16,769±.]

AUTHORIZING TAX, ARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER THREE 30 SCARSDALE RIDGE CORP FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THREE 30 SOUTH, UH, CENTRAL AVENUE REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES TOTAL 23 4 3 7 WOULD LIKE TO MOVE, ADD SECOND.

RESOLUTION

[ AT 3 - 5/10/2023 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner 330 Scarsdale Ridge Corp. for property located at 330 S. Central Avenue. The Town’s share of the refund is $3,834±; the County’s share is $2,059±; the Bronx Valley Sewer District’s share is $320±; the Edgemont Union Free School District’s share is $14,552±; the Greenville Fire District’s share is $2,526±; the Consolidated Sewer Mtc. District’s share is $146±. Refunds from all sources total $23,437±.]

RESOLUTION AMENDING A PRIOR CONDITION OF APPROVAL RELATING TO A REQUEST BY WILDWOOD CONDO AND HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATED WITH A SHUTTLE BUS SERVICE OF AN EXISTING MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITY KNOWN AS WELLWOOD.

[ CD 1 - 5/10/2023 Resolution amending a prior condition of approval related to a request by the Wyldwood Condominium and Homeowners Association (“the Applicant”) associated with the shuttle bus service of an existing multi-family residential community known as “Wyldwood”]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE.

ACKNOWLEDGING THE REQUIRED EXAM AND ORDER OF 2022.

RESOLUTION.

[ CO 1 - 5/10/2023 Resolution acknowledging the Required Examination and Audit of the 2022 Justice Court Records and Dockets conducted in Compliance with Section 2019-a of the Uniform Court Act]

JUSTICE COURT RECORDS AND DOCKETS CONDUCTED IN COMPLIANCE WITH SECTION 2 1 9 A OF THE UNIFORM COURT ACT.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE.

EXECUTION OF 15,904 GRANT AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER FOR TRANSPORTING SENIORS WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WHAT? THAT'S PIER 1, 5, 10 10 PIER ONE SECOND.

AUTHORIZING THE

[ PR 1 - 5/10/2023 Resolution authorizing the execution of a $15,904 grant agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and the County of Westchester for transporting seniors.]

$150 DONATION FROM WELL WOULD YOU SAY 'CAUSE THE, UH, THEY INDEXED THESE, THESE THINGS.

RESOLUTION ACCEPTING

[ PR 2 - 5/10/2023 Resolution accepting a $150 donation from The Kiwanis Club of Hartsdale for the Department of Parks & Recreation's Nutrition Program Annual Cookout for seniors to be held on June 8, 2023]

SO COULD YOU SAY THE, UH, RESOLUTION TWO, UH, RESOLUTION ACCEPTING, UM, UH, ONE 50 UH, DONATION FOR KIWANIS CLUB OF HARSDALE FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION NUTRITION PROGRAM FOR SENIORS TO BE HELD ON JUNE 8TH, 2023? I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR,

[ PO 1 - 5/10/2023 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to execute an Intermunicipal Agreement with the County of Westchester to renew the existing agreement for the implementation and operation of the enhanced 911 system through September 30, 2027, at no cost to the Town ]

COST TO THE TOWN LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.

UM, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING COUNTY SUPERVISOR PO ONE.

PO ONE PLEASE.

P ONE TO EXECUTE AN INTO MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER.

RENEW THE EXISTING AGREEMENT FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION AND OPERATION OF THE ENHANCED NINE 11 SYSTEM THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027 AT NO

[03:50:01]

FIVE YEAR WATER RATE PLAN FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG CONSOLIDATED WATER DISTRICT NUMBER ONE.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING

[ PW 1 - 5/10/2023 Resolution authorizing a five-year water rate plan for the Town of Greenburgh Consolidated Water District No. 1 to ensure funding for infrastructure improvements, effective July 1, 2023]

TO ENSURE FUNDING FOR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS EFFECTIVE JULY 1ST, 2023.

[ PW 2 - 5/10/2023 Resolution awarding the Contract for the Annual Generator Maintenance-2023 to GenTech Ltd. the lowest bidder for an amount not to exceed $32,085.00]

RESOLUTION AWARDING THE CONTRACT FOR ANNUAL GENERATOR MAINTENANCE TO GENERAL TECH, UM, L T D THE LOWEST BIDDER FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $32,085.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND ON FAVOR, AYE AYE.

THE CONTRACT FOR PARK IMPROVEMENTS AND MASSA PARK P THREE TO P W THREE TO, UH, PETER LANDY, THE LOWEST BIDDER FOR AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 2 92 500.

AWARDING

[ PW 3 - 5/10/2023 Resolution awarding the contract for the Park Improvements at Massaro Park to Peter J. Landi, Inc. the lowest bidder for an amount not to exceed $292,500.00]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.

RESOLUTION EXTENDING P W FOUR P W FOUR EXTENDING CONSULTING ENGINEERING AGREEMENT WITH KARD SESSIONS CONSULTING FOR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER ENG ENGINEERING SERVICES.

UM, AND, UM,

[ PW 4 - 5/10/2023 Resolution extending a Consulting Engineering Services Agreement with Kellard Sessions Consulting, D.P.C. for professional Engineering services in an amount not to exceed the hourly billing rate of $250, and a total cost not to exceed $55,000]

AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED THE HOURLY BILLABLE RATE OF TWO 50 AND THE TOTAL COST NOT TO EXCEED $55,000.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT, THAT'S PW FOUR.

SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXTENSION

[ PW 5 - 5/10/2023 Resolution authorizing extension of the "Emergency and Scheduled Sewer, Water and Street Excavation, Repair and Restoration Services-2022" contract with Morano Brothers Corp., on an as needed basis]

OF EMERGENCY AND SCHEDULED SEWER WATER ON STREET EXCAVATION REPAIR AND RESTORATION SERVICES CONTRACT WITH MURANO BROTHERS ON A NOW AS NEEDED BASIS.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT PW FIVE SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO ENTER TO AN AGREEMENT WITH CONED FOR FINAL ROAD RESTORATION.

PW SIX

[ PW 6 - 5/10/2023 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into an agreement with Consolidated Edison Company of New York, Inc. ("Con Edison") for final road restoration]

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT PW SIX SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.

AND PW SEVEN RESOLUTION PROCLAIMING WEEK OF MAY 20, UH, ONE IS NOW CALLED PUBLIC WORKS WEEK 21 TO 27.

UM,

[ PW 7 - 5/10/2023 Resolution proclaiming the week of May 21 - May 27, 2023 as National Public Works Week ]

SECOND IN FAVOR? AYE.