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MEETING.AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UM, UH, BILL NOLL MOHAWK DAY.
IT'S BETTER IF YOU SIT AT THE TABLE, UH, UNDERSTOOD.
UM, WE, WE DO HAVE OUR POWERPOINT, IF THAT'S OKAY.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MAXIMILIAN ALAK, THE LAW FIRM OF CUDI AND VADER ON THE BEHALF OF THE MOHAWK DAY CAMP.
I AM JOINED HERE THIS EVENING, UH, BY ADAM WALLOCK, CAMP DIRECTOR AND ALSO MR. WILLIAM MELL, PARTNER WITH CU AND VADER.
UM, SO JUST, I KNOW WE HAVE A QUICK TIME SLOT, SO I DO APPRECIATE THE BOARD'S TIME THIS EVENING.
THIS IS A LONG ESTABLISHED USE OF HITTING 90 YEARS A SUMMER CAMP WITH THE DAY SCHOOL.
UH, IT'S AN INTEGRAL USE OF THE COMMUNITY.
IT IS LOCATED ON OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD, JUST EAST OF NEW YORK, ROUTE 100.
UH, THE TOWN BOARD HAS SITE PLAN APPROVAL ON THIS PREMISES AS IT IS 37 ACRES APPROXIMATELY.
UH, I WOULD NOTE THAT THE Z B A DOES HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPLICATION, BUT WE WANTED TO START WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
UH, NOW I JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY ALLOW MR. WALLACH TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF PERSONALLY.
THANK YOU, UH, TO THE BOARD FOR HAVING US HERE.
I'M THE CAMP DIRECTOR AND ONE OF THE OWNERS AT MOHAWK DAY CAMP.
UM, AS MAX SHARED THIS SUMMER, WE'LL BE OUR 94TH SUMMER, AND, UH, HAVE A GREAT HISTORY OF MANY CAMPERS, STAFF ALUMNI AT THE CAMP.
UM, WITH THIS PROJECT, WE ARE LOOKING TO CONTINUE TO PLAN FOR THE FUTURE AT MOHAWK, SO WE CAN DELIVER A SAFE PROGRAM, CONTINUE TO MEET CAMPERS AND PARENTS' EXPECTATIONS.
ALSO CONTINUE TO RESPOND TO THE INCREASINGLY NUMBER OF HOT SUMMER DAYS AND SEVERE WEATHER, WHICH WE, UM, HAVE CERTAINLY FACED RECENTLY.
AND ALSO ENSURE THE CAMP SUCCESS SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO SERVE CAMPERS IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I THANK THE BOARD FOR THEIR TIME AND LOOK FORWARD TO HELPING ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, GOING FORWARD WITH WHAT IS PROPOSED AND JUST WANNA SEE IF THE SLIDE WILL CHANGE.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT, UM, THAT COUNCILWOMAN, GINA JACKSON IS, UH, TRAVELING BACK FROM MEETINGS UPSTATE AND, UM, SO SHE IS ATTENDING REMOTELY.
UH, SO IN TERMS OF WHAT IS PROPOSED BEFORE THE BOARD, UH, SO THE CAMP CAMP IS SEEKING TO INTRODUCE AN ENCLOSED CURLING CENTER THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE CAMP PROGRAMMING TO PROVIDE SAFE AND CONVENIENT AIR CONDITIONED SPACE FOR CAMPERS, UH, DURING TIMES OF INCLEMENT WEATHER AND DURING HOT DAYS.
UM, IN ADDITION, WHAT IS PROPOSED IS A TURF FIELD, UM, THAT WILL BE USED YEAR ROUND, UH, BY THE PROVISION OF A SEASONAL BUBBLE DURING THE WINTER MONTHS.
UM, AND WHAT'S GREAT ABOUT USING A TURF FIELD IS DURING THE SUMMER WHEN THE BUBBLE IS DOWN, UH, TURF DOES DRAIN BETTER, AND WE HAVE SEEN THOSE INCREASED STORM EVENTS.
UM, SO THAT WILL ALLOW FOR EFFICIENCIES AND OPERATION AND COST SAVINGS.
UH, NOW DURING THE OFF SEASON, THE CAMP IS SEEKING TO RENT OUT THESE IMPROVEMENTS TO THIRD PARTIES FOR OFF SEASON USE.
UM, AND THIS IS A PART OF SEEKING INCREASED REVENUE STREAMS TO ENABLE FUTURE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO ADDRESS DRAINAGE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN SEEN ON THE SITE IN THE PAST TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL PROGRAMMING AND TO ALLOW THE USE TO BE A, UH, IMPORTANT PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND TO CONTINUE INTO THE FAR FUTURE.
UM, SO HERE YOU'LL JUST SEE, UM, IMAGES OF THE STANDARD TYPE OF BUBBLE YOU WOULD SEE OVER A TURF FIELD, AND ALSO THE TYPE OF CURLING COURT PROPOSED HERE.
UH, SO JUST A LITTLE MORE DETAIL ON THESE IMPROVEMENTS OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE MULTI-PURPOSE SPORTS FIELD, UH, COVERED WITH THE SEASONAL BUBBLE, AND THEN THE MULTI-PURPOSE CURLING CENTER.
THE TURF FIELD IS ABOUT 45,000 SQUARE FEET APPROXIMATELY, WHILE THE CURLING CENTER IS AT 20,000 SQUARE FEET APPROXIMATELY.
SO SOMETHING TO NOTE, WE ARE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THE SITE PLAN AND ENGINEERING DRAWINGS.
WE'RE JUST AT THE CONCEPTUAL STAGE NOW, UH, BUT WE WANTED TO, UM, COME TO THE BOARD TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND TO DETERMINE THE NEXT STEPS.
UM, SO HERE YOU CAN SEE MOMENT, UM, THE PROPOSED LOCATIONS, AND I'M GONNA GO BACK A SLIDE HERE.
SO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE IT CONVENIENTLY LOCATED, BUT ALSO AWAY FROM RESIDENCES.
SO YOU'LL SEE THIS GENERAL AREA IN RED HERE ON THE SLIDES ON THE TV, UM, WHERE THE PROPOSED HER FIELD AND CURLING COURT WOULD BE.
AND THEN WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE DETAIL HERE WITH THE DIMENSIONS OF BOTH OF THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THIS IS A LOCATED WITHIN CLOSE WALKING DISTANCE OF THE PARKING LOT ALONG THE FRONT OF THE PREMISES, BUT AGAIN, IT IS TUCKED AWAY, UM, FROM OTHER RESIDENCES, AND IT'S LOCATED,
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UH, WHERE THERE'S GENERALLY SOME OPEN SPACE NOW.SO YOU'RE NOT LOSING, UH, MANY EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS AND ANY EXISTING IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE REMOVED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT WOULD BE RELOCATED TO OTHER PORTIONS OF THE PREMISES.
AGAIN, HERE'S JUST AN IMAGE OF THE, UM, WHAT A TRADITIONAL SPORTS SEASONAL BUBBLE LOOKS LIKE OVER A TURF FIELD.
UM, SOME DETAILS ON THE PROGRAMMING.
SO THE TURF FIELD WOULD BE UTILIZED BY THE SUMMER CAMP DURING THE CAMP SEASON, UH, DURING THE SCHOOL SEASON.
IT WOULD BE USED BY THE DAY SCHOOL AND ALSO DURING THAT, UH, REST OF THE YEAR, THAT OFF SEASON, IF YOU WILL.
UH, IT WOULD BE, UH, RENTED OUT TO THIRD PARTY GROUPS.
UH, SO WE'RE LOOKING AT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, SPORTS LEAGUES, UM, DIFFERENT TYPES OF, UM, ORGANIZATIONS FOCUSED ON SPORTS, UH, SO THEY CAN UTILIZE THE PREMISES, UH, FOR PRACTICES AND GAMES.
THESE ARE NOT TOURNAMENTS, THEY'RE NOT SPECTATORS, UH, BUT THIS IS A VENUE THAT COULD BE UTILIZED.
HOW MUCH WOULD IT BE RENTED OUT FOR? UH, SO THOSE NUMBERS I UNDERSTAND ARE STILL IN THE WORKS.
WE'RE STILL AT THE VERY CONCEPTUAL STAGE.
UH, BUT, UH, WE ARE STILL LOOKING INTO THE DETAILS ON THOSE.
THERE'S JUST A FOLLOW UP TO KEN'S QUESTION WITH, THERE'D BE LIKE ANY SCHOLARSHIPS OR PROGRAMS FOR SAY, LOWER INCOME, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, FAMILIES WHO WOULD, OR INDIVIDUALS WHO WOULD, YOU KNOW, WANT YOU, YOU KNOW, THE COURT SORT DON'T, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, WE ARE STILL LOOKING INTO WHAT KIND OF OPPORTUNITIES ARE AVAILABLE FOR US FINANCIALLY, UM, AND WHAT KIND OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH THERE CAN BE.
UM, A LOT OF THIS IS STILL IN THE CONCEPTUAL STAGE, BUT WE DEFINITELY HEAR THE COMMENT AND WE CAN TAKE A LOOK INTO, UM, THE, UM, UH, DIFFERENT, UM, OPTIONS OUT THERE, EVEN IF IT PROVIDES REVENUE THAT WOULD ENABLE YOU TO MAKE, UM, THE CAMP AVAILABLE FOR LOWER INCOME.
THE CAMP ITSELF, UH, I JUST WANNA ACTUALLY, AND ADAM, I HAVE A POINT ON THAT.
SO I, I GUESS THE, TO ANSWER THE FIRST QUESTION, SO THE, THE SEASONAL BUBBLE, THIS, THIS, THIS IS A NON-AIR CONDITIONED SPACE, SO THE BUBBLE WOULD BE UP FOR LESS THAN SIX MONTHS PER YEAR.
SO THE BUBBLE OPERATION IS ESSENTIALLY SOMETIME LATE OCTOBER, FIRST WEEK OF NOVEMBER THROUGH END OF MARCH, FIRST WEEK IN APRIL.
UM, THE, THE USAGE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, FOR THE BUBBLE OR, OR, OR THE CURLING CENTER IS CERTAINLY A COMMUNITY-BASED, UM, AVAILABILITY.
SO WHETHER THAT'S WORKING WITH GREENBERG SOCCER LEAGUE, WHETHER THAT'S WORKING WITH ELMSFORD SOCCER LEAGUE, ELMSFORD LITTLE LEAGUE, SO THESE ARE ALL, YOU KNOW, NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE WOULD BE SERVING.
AND CERTAINLY WE WOULD ENSURE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE FEE STRUCTURE IS SET UP THAT IT MEETS THEIR NEEDS.
AND CERTAINLY WE DO FEEL THAT THERE IS A NEED, UM, FOR THESE TYPES OF STRUCTURES IN OUR COUNTY AND CERTAINLY IN OUR SPECIFIC COMMUNITY HERE.
SO, JUST MOVING ON INTO THE SLIDES.
UM, SO HERE'S JUST A GENERAL, UH, TRADITIONAL DRAWING THAT YOU WOULD SEE THIS TYPE OF PROPOSED USE WHERE WE HAVE, UH, THE TURF FIELDS IN GREEN, AND THEN WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE IS EXCITING.
THESE ARE FIVE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
NOW, I CAN'T SAY THAT I PERSONALLY KNOW MUCH ABOUT PICKLEBALL, BUT I KNOW A LOT OF FOLKS DO.
AND SO WHAT IS PROPOSED HERE IS FIVE PICKLEBALL COURTS.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT THE EXACT DRAWING PROPOSED FOR THE PREMISES HERE.
THOSE DRAWINGS ARE STILL IN THE WORKS, BUT JUST TO GIVE A REPRESENTATION OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE.
UH, NOW MOVING ON TO THE CURRENT CENTER, THIS IS A PERMANENT STRUCTURE.
AS I SAID EARLIER, IT IS SMALLER THAN THE TUR FIELD.
UM, WHAT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THIS IS THE MULTI-PURPOSE FUNCTIONALITY OF THIS BUILDING, UH, DURING THE SUMMER, UH, WHEN THE ICE ISN'T THERE.
THIS SPACE CAN BE USED FOR PROGRAMMING FOR THE CAMP DURING IMPLEMENT WEATHER.
IT'S AIR CONDITIONED, IT'S CONVENIENT.
UH, IT ENHANCES, UM, UH, THE TYPES OF PROGRAMMING OPPORTUNITIES NOW DURING THE, WHAT I'M GONNA CALL THE OFF SEASON WHEN THE SCHOOL'S IN EFFECT, UH, AGAIN, THIS FACILITY IS A VALUABLE OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE THOSE REVENUE STREAMS BY RENTING OUT THIS PROPERTY, THIS PIECE OF THE PROPERTY TO THESE, UH, CURLING CLUBS AND OTHER ENTITIES THAT WOULD USE IT AS A CURLING CENTER.
SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IS A COURT, UM, PROPOSED TO WHAT WE HAVE, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED WITH FOUR CURLING COURTS.
UM, THERE IS SOME EXCITING, UM, SPECIFIC PROGRAMMING IDEAS WE HAVE, UM, INCLUDING, UH, PROVIDING, UH, COURSES IN CURLING, UH, TO FOLKS WHO, UH, MIGHT BE EXPERIENCING HANDICAPS, UM, BRINGING IN, UM, CURLING TEAMS FROM AROUND THE REGION TO PARTICIPATE IN THE VENUE.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WITH SPECTATORS.
UH, THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, PEOPLE COME INTO TO PARTICIPATE IN PRACTICES, PARTICIPATE IN GAMES.
THIS IS NOT, SAY, A FULL SCALE COMPETITION WITH LARGE CROWDS, UH, BUT IT IS A UNIQUE AND EXCITING ACTIVITY THAT IS GROWING IN POPULARITY.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS A COUPLE FOLKS OUTTA WESTCHESTER RECENTLY WHO, UH, HAD, UM, BIG GAMES IN THE CURLING, THE CURLING COMPETITION
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WORLD.SO IT IS A, UM, AN EXCITING SPORT THAT IS GROWING IN POPULARITY.
SO LOOKING AT THESE, UM, COURTS, THERE'RE ABOUT UP TO 10 PEOPLE PER GAME.
SO THE DEMAND, IT, IT'S NOT HIGH.
UH, IT'S A SMALL NUMBER OF FOLKS USING EACH COURT DURING A GAME.
AND AS I SAID, UH, THIS WOULD BE, UM, UTILIZED BOTH IN THE SUMMER BY THE CAMP AND THEN UTILIZED BY THESE THIRD PARTIES, UH, DURING THAT OFF SEASON.
SO, JUST A COUPLE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO NOTE.
UH, HERE IS JUST A KIND OF A STANDARD TEMPLATE OF WHAT YOU SEE, UH, WITH THE CURLING COURT LAYOUT.
AND HERE'S SOME OF THE, UH, DETAILS ON THAT PROGRAMMING I ALREADY WENT INTO.
UH, BUT YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'RE, UH, THE IDEAS TO OFFER, UH, CLASSES AND CLINICS THROUGH THESE THIRD PARTIES THAT ARE FAMILIAR WITH CURLING.
UH, SOME OTHER NOTES I JUST WANTED, UH, TO ARTICULATE TO THE BOARD.
SO APPROXIMATELY, UH, THERE ARE 225 PARKING SPACES ON THE PREMISES.
UH, NOW KEEP IN MIND THAT THIS CURLING CENTER, UH, IN PARTICULAR WITH ITS THIRD PARTY USES AND THE THIRD PARTY USES OF THE TURF FIELD WITH B SEASONAL BUBBLE, THOSE ARE DURING WHAT I'VE REFERRED TO EARLIER AS THE OFF SEASON.
SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE THAT OVERLAPPING PARKING DEMAND OF THE CAMP USE WITH THESE THIRD PARTY USES.
IT SPREADS OUT THAT DEMAND TO AVOID ANY ISSUE OF PARKING.
UH, AND NOW, UH, PARTICULARLY WITH THE TURF FIELD, UM, WHEN IT IS BEING UTILIZED, UH, ESPECIALLY BY, UM, SAY YOUNGER AGE GROUPS DURING SPORTS ACTIVITIES, ET CETERA, KIDS ARE DROPPED OFF AND PICKED UP.
UM, SO WE ARE GOING TO AVOID THAT PARKING DEMAND IN THAT, UH, CAPACITY AS WELL.
UH, THE SCHEDULED GAMES AND PRACTICES, UH, THEY'LL BE HELD IN THE FACILITIES ON THE STRICT SCHEDULE.
UH, THERE ARE NO PLANS, AS I NOTED BEFORE, TO HOST ANY TOURNAMENTS.
UH, AND AGAIN, NO SPECTATORS ARE COMING.
UH, NOW AS THE SITE PLAN IS IN THE WORKS, THOSE DRAWINGS ARE STILL PENDING, BUT I JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT THERE'S NO EXTERIOR LIGHTING PROPOSED OTHER THAN THE SECURITY LIGHTING, UH, THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED ON THE PARKING LOT AND THE PATHS AND THE LIGHTING WOULD BE INSIDE THE FACILITIES AS REQUIRED.
UH, AND AGAIN, ANY USES DEMOLISHED AS A PART OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE REBUILT ELSEWHERE ON THE PREMISES.
SO WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, UH, GOING TO ANY, UH, COMMENTS THAT THE BOARD MIGHT HAVE, AND I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
WHAT WOULD THE HEIGHT BE FOR THE BUBBLE AND HOW VISIBLE WOULD THAT BE? I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL AREA, BUT HOW VISIBLE WOULD IT BE? SO THE EXACT DIMENSIONS OF THE BUBBLE ITSELF, UH, WOULD STILL BE IN THE WORKS AS PART OF THE SITE PLAN DRAWINGS.
UM, I KNOW THEY DO VARY, UH, BASED ON THE TYPE OF BUBBLE THAT IS UTILIZED.
UH, IT WOULD ONLY BE UP SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR, BUT WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION AS PART OF THE FORMAL PACKAGE.
AND IT, AND IT WOULD BE UNDER 30 FEET.
ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD, AND YOU KNOW, I WAS SPEAKING TO GARRETT, YOU, I THINK WE MET MAYBE ABOUT A YEAR OR TWO AGO.
UM, UH, THERE'S DEFINITELY A NEED FOR A SIDEWALK FROM MOHAWK TO, UH, HILLSIDE.
I, WE HAD I THINK, ONE OR TWO FATALITIES OVER THE PAST, YOU KNOW, NUMBER OF YEARS, YOU KNOW, A WHILE BACK AT THAT LOCATION, UH, NEAR, NEAR, UH, UH, MOHAWK, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I'D SAY LIKE A BLOCK.
I THINK IT WAS ABOUT A BLOCK AWAY.
AND I SORT OF, I'M WONDERING IF, UM, SINCE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WALK, YOU KNOW, TAKE THE BUS IF, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT CONSIDER, UM, WORKING WITH A TOWN AND PUTTING US, HELPING US PUT A SIDEWALK FROM THE CAMP, UH, TO HILLSIDE THAT CONNECTED TO THIS PROJECT, OR YEAH.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU'D BE OPEN, UH, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO THE FEEL THAT THIS IS LIKE A LOCATION.
I MEAN, WE, I DRIVE ON, YOU KNOW, ON OLD TAR TOWN ROAD OR BIKE THERE EVERY DAY, SO I SEE A LOT OF TRAFFIC AND I SEE A LOT OF PEDESTRIANS WALKING ON THE STREET, AND I JUST THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS.
AND IF THERE'S GONNA BE A BUBBLE, THIS IS GONNA BE A MORE OF A MAJOR, UH, SPORTS, YOU KNOW, COMPLEX AND YOU KNOW, MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO, UH, YOU KNOW, GO THERE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ONLY GONNA BE A CAMP NOW, IT'S GONNA BE, UH, RECREATION, YOU KNOW, FACILITY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA PROBABLY WANT TO USE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE CERTAINLY WILLING TO WORK WITH THE TOWN TO EVALUATE WHAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO BE DONE AND, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO A FORMAL PROCESS OF MOVING THIS MATTER FORWARD.
SO JARED'S IN CHARGE
SO, UH, THE PLAN IS TO HAVE A PROPOSAL THAT IS ZONING COMPLIANT, AS NOTED.
THE, THE SECOND LINE DRAWING STILL HAVE TO BE PREPARED TO CONFIRM THAT.
UH, BUT THAT IS THE INTENTION.
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USE PERMIT AMENDMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED BASED ON THE TOWN CODE.THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT I WANTED TO MENTION, UH, IS THIS LEAK.
UM, WE HEARD FROM SPORT TIME AND THEY'RE LOOKING AT PUTTING THE, UH, RENT, WORKING WITH THE TOWN, THEY'RE GONNA PUT A BUBBLE, UM, AT ANTHONY VETERAN, YOU KNOW, PARK, THAT'S THEIR PROPOSAL.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE WEBSITE, THEY, WHAT IMPRESSED ME ABOUT THEIR PROPOSAL WAS ALL THE COMMUNITY, UM, ACTIVITIES THAT THEY'RE OFFERING, YOU KNOW, THEY PROVIDING SCHOLARSHIPS FOR YOUNG PEOPLE.
THEY'RE PROVIDING ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS FOR LOWER INCOME, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUNG PEOPLE.
AND I'M WONDERING IF PERHAPS WHEN YOU APPLY, YOU KNOW, SUBMIT SOMETHING MORE AND CONCEPT, IF YOU COULD LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO AND MAYBE SEE IF YOU COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT, UM, WOULD BE A GIVE BACK, YOU KNOW, TO THOSE WHO CAN'T AFFORD, UH, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PROGRAMS, BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THE MORE WE DO, UH, THE BETTER THE CHANCES ARE THAT PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SAY, OH, THIS COULD BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE.
I THINK IT GIVES A, A REALLY GOOD, UM, YOU KNOW, IMPRESSION.
AND I KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS A, IS MADE UP OF A LOT OF ACTIVISTS, UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YOU, WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH PEOPLE FOR, FOR YEARS.
AND I JUST THINK THAT THESE LITTLE GESTURES REALLY, REALLY, REALLY PAY OFF TO FIND, SAY TO PEOPLE WHO ARE MAY, WHO MIGHT NOT KNOW IF THEY'RE FOR IT OR AGAINST IT, LOOK, WE'RE GETTING A SIDEWALK, LOOK AT ALL THESE, UM, BENEFITS TO THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT, THEN PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, WOW, THIS COULD BE A REALLY POSITIVE THING FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, FROM MY EXPERIENCES, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD JUST A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS ABOUT MOHAWK AND SINCE YOU'VE BEEN, YOU KNOW, THE OWNER, I KNOW YOU'VE TRIED REALLY HARD TO, UM, MAKE THIS A, A TOP-NOTCH IN YOUR CAMP.
WE, UM, WANT, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS AND, UM, WE CAN LOOK INTO WHAT'S FEASIBLE, UH, FROM THE, FOR THE CAMP AND, UM, HAPPY TO, UH, PROVIDE THOSE RESPONSES AS PART OF THE FORMAL APPLICATION PACKAGE.
UH, JUST A COUPLE COMMENTS FROM, FROM, UH, ME.
IF, UM, THE BOARD THINKS IT'D BE BENEFICIAL, ONE THING I WOULD RECOMMEND IS POTENTIALLY FOR THE APPLICANT TO STATE THE COS OF, UH, THE TWO PROPOSED FACILITIES AND THEN HAVE THAT AVAILABLE TO THE TOWN BOARD TO, TO VISIT AND REALLY SEE IN THE FIELD WHAT THAT PROXIMITY IS TO LOCAL RESIDENTS.
AND YOU GET AN IDEA OF HOW SUBSTANTIAL THE TREE BUFFER IS, UH, IN BETWEEN THOSE PROPOSED FIELDS.
UM, SO IF THAT'S SOMETHING THE APPLICANT COULD STAKE OUT AND LET THE BOARD KNOW, UH, WHETHER THE BOARD WOULD WANNA DO A NOTICE VISIT, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE UP TO YOUR DISCRETION OR IF YOU'D JUST WANNA VISIT IT IN SEPARATE, IN SEPARATE SMALL GROUPS.
UM, BUT WHATEVER IT IS, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO HELP COORDINATE ON YOUR BEHALF.
UM, SO ON THAT POINT, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU MAKE A PRESENTATION LIKE THIS REPEATEDLY SAYING, WELL, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, DOESN'T HELP US TOO MUCH IN MAKING, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST FORMING AN OPINION ABOUT IT.
CLEARLY YOU HAVE AN OUTLINE OF YOUR PROPERTY AND YOU COULD PUT IN THE GENERAL AREA WHERE THIS WOULD BE.
SO WE WOULD HAVE SOME AS OPPOSED TO SAYING, YOU KNOW, WELL, WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE POLISH SITE PLAN DONE YET, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN OTHER SITE PLANS ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, WE DO HAVE THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION OF THE TWO PROPOSED FACILITIES UP ON THE SCREENS THERE, UM, IN THE CENTER OF THE PREMISES.
AND BEFORE, ONE OF THE INTENTIONS HERE WAS TO LOCATE IT AWAY FROM SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN THE GENERAL NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO WE DID WANT TO PROVIDE THAT WITH THE APPROXIMATE DIMENSIONS.
BUT, UM, WE DO HAVE A COMMENT.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THE, THE OUTLINE IN RED, THE L-SHAPED IS THE BUBBLE, SORRY, THE OUTLINE IN RED IS THE BUBBLE.
AND THEN THE CURLING SIDE THERE IN, UH, TURQUOISE LIGHT BLUE.
SO IT'S BASICALLY COVERING THE PROPERTY.
YOU WOULD TALK TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE.
IT'S A 37 ACRE PARCEL, SO IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S ONLY ABOUT A LITTLE OVER AN ACRE PLUS.
SO IT, IT, ON THIS SLIDE, IT, IT MAY LOOK LIKE IT'S A LARGE AREA, BUT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT EXTENDS TO THE TOP OF THE PAGE AND OFF TO THE LEFT ALSO.
I, I, I WHAT I, I, I GUESS I, I, AND ARTFULLY MADE MY STATEMENT AND THANK YOU FOR CORRECTING IT.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S LANDSCAPING THAT MAKES THIS SOMEWHAT OF A STANDALONE LITTLE AREA OF YOUR LARGER PARCEL.
IS THAT WHAT IT IS? WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO LOCATE THESE BUILDINGS NEAR THE PARKING AREA THAT'S DOWN AT THE BOTTOM TOWARDS THAT TURQUOISE BOX AND PUT IT SO THAT THE SUBSTANTIAL, UH, TREES ARE BUFFERING THE VIEW FROM THE ADJACENT RESIDENCES.
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TRYING TO CITE IT IN AN AREA WHERE WE HAVE THESE DISTURBANCE, BUT, UM, BE CONVENIENT TO OUR EXISTING PARKING.AND I THINK IF WE WILL BE ABLE TO STAKE IT FOR YOU, WE CAN COORDINATE THAT AND, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE, WE'LL, WE MAY BE REFINING IT FURTHER, BUT WE CAN GIVE YOU A GENERAL IDEA SO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND WE DIDN'T DIG INTO SPENDING MONEY TO ARCHITECTURALLY OR ENGINEER THE DETAILS UNTIL HAVING THIS FIRST MEETING WITH YOU DIDN'T WANNA GO FORWARD AND, AND PRESENT IT AS IF IT WAS ALL MOVING FORWARD.
BUT AS, AS YOU KNOW, THESE BUILDINGS ARE PERMITTED FOR THIS USE, AND IT'S JUST A QUESTION OF FINDING THE RIGHT LOCATION FOR THEM WITH RELOCATING WHAT ARE LIKE 10 PLATFORMS IN, UH, AREAS WHERE THE, THE CAMPERS, UH, HANG OUT AND, AND WEATHER, ET CETERA.
UM, IF I'M, UM, WHAT HAVE YOU DETERMINED ROUGHLY WHAT HOURS OF OPERATION? SO WE DO HAVE IN OUR PACKAGE HERE, UM, THIS WAS A SUBMISSION FILED WITH STAFF SOME WEEKS AGO.
UM, BUT THESE ARE THE GENERAL HOURS OF OPERATION FOR, UM, WHAT YOU'LL SEE HERE, THERE IS A ROW, UH, WITH WHAT ARE CALLED THE USER GROUP RENTAL HOURS.
SO THOSE LOOKING AT THE POTENTIAL THIRD PARTY HOUR OPERATIONS.
SO TO KIND OF SET SOME CONTEXT, THE, THE CAMP USE AND THE SCHOOL USE, THEY RUN FROM ABOUT 8:00 AM TO 6:00 PM GENERALLY CAMP'S OPERATIONAL DURING THE SUMMER, THE SCHOOL IS OPERATIONAL DURING THE SCHOOL YEAR.
THOSE HOURS ARE SET, THE USE HAS BEEN IN ACTION FOR A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO THEN WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED NEW HOURS OF OPERATION.
UM, SO WE WANNA ARTICULATE THOSE AND THE ROWS HERE WITH THE, UH, THE THIRD PARTY RENTALS.
UM, NOW, NOW, SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND, ESPECIALLY WITH THESE LATER TIME SLOTS, WE DON'T, UH, PLAN FOR, YOU KNOW, RENTING OUT TO A GROUP THAT WOULD HAVE, SAY 40 KIDS THERE AT 10:00 PM AT NIGHT.
UM, BUT AS A PART OF THESE THIRD PARTY RENTALS, UH, THERE IS AN INTENTION TO, UH, INCLUDE, UM, ADULT SPORTS LEAGUES.
UM, SO SMALLER GROUPS, UM, THAT MIGHT HAVE A GAME AFTER WORK OR AFTER A PLANNING BOARD MEETING NIGHT.
AND SO THOSE WOULD BE LATER IN THE EVENING.
THOSE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES WOULD BE ONGOING.
THOSE ARE WHAT THOSE LATER RENTALS WOULD BE.
UM, THE YOUTH GROUPS WOULD BE, UH, DURING THEIR STANDARD DAY HOURS.
WELL, NOW THE SECOND QUESTION, HOW FAR, YOU KNOW, THE AREA THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING FOR THESE TWO FACILITIES, HOW FAR ARE THEY FROM THE RESIDENCES? SO WE CAN GET THOSE EXACT NUMBERS? UM, I DO NOTE THAT THERE IS A 200 FOOT, UM, ZONING CODE REQUIREMENT.
UM, AND ACTUALLY, UH, WHEN WE WERE IN THESE EARLY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT SITING THESE, WE, WE'VE ORIGINALLY LOOKED AT SIDING THEM POTENTIALLY TO CLOSER TO THE EASTERN EDGE OF THE PREMISES.
BUT WE SAW THAT THOSE WERE CLOSE TO SINGLE FAMILY HOME PROPERTY LINES, AND THAT'S WHY WE SHIFTED THE IMPROVEMENTS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE.
BUT WE CAN GET THOSE EXACT MEASUREMENTS AS PART OF OUR YEAH.
AND THAT'S WHY I FEEL IF, IF IT'S STAKED OUT IN THE FIELD, UH, WE'LL GIVE THE BOARD A REALLY GOOD SENSE OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT PROXIMITY AND, UM, BUT ALSO, UH, AND IF IT'S GONNA BE A, A SITE VISIT, YOU KNOW, STAKES CAN STAY THERE FOR AS LONG AS YOU WANT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOWEST SOME KIND OF BETTER IDEA OF WHAT KIND OF GROUPS, BECAUSE EVEN ADULTS CAN MAKE NOISE.
SO DON'T WANT, AND, AND THIS IS A QUESTION OF COURSE THAT WILL COME UP FOR THE NEIGHBORS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M GIVING YOU A PRECURSOR THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T ANY NOISE DISTURBANCE, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO 11:00 PM AND, UM, AND WHETHER THAT MEANS YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF NOISE BUFFER BESIDES THE TREES.
THAT'S SOMETHING FOR YOU TO EXPLORE THOUGH, SO THAT YOU HAVE THAT RESPONSE.
WE COULD COMBO A BALLOON FLOAT TO, WITH, WITH THE SITE VISIT THAT, UM, THAT I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
IT WOULD ALSO BE HELPFUL ON THE PLANS IF YOU COULD SHOW THE ELEVATION OF THE TOP OF YOUR, YOUR BUBBLE AND THE ELEVATION OF THE TOP OF THE ROOFS OF THE NEARBY RESIDENCES OR THE TREES CROSS SECTION, NOT THE HEIGHTS, BUT THE ELEVATIONS.
REMEMBER WE HAD A BIG CONTROVERSY, UH, NEAR THE GOLF, UH, GOLF RANGE OVER A BUBBLE.
THIS IS, WHAT IS IT THAT 10 YEARS AGO OR, OR LESS.
SO YOU MIGHT WANNA JUST, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME, PROBABLY THE SAME ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A BUBBLE.
PEOPLE GOT, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED.
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SOMEWHAT IN A RESIDENTIAL AREA, YOU KNOW, AREA.UM, AND THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, I SORT OF FEEL THAT ALL THESE EXTRAS THAT YOU DO, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, EARLY ON, UH, YOU, YOU MIGHT WANNA MEET WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION BEFORE YOU COME UP WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PLANS.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, REALLY HELPFUL.
I JUST WANNA SAY ONE MORE PLUG FOR THE SIDEWALK AGAIN.
UM, IF, UH, IF WE GET A SIDEWALK, UH, TO THE CAMP FROM ONE 19, PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO WALK, UH, FROM EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, THE HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION, UH, WILL BE ABLE TO WALK ALL THE WAY UP WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING A SIDEWALK, UH, BUILT.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE A RIGHT TURN ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD, UH, WALK FROM ALL THE WAY TO ONE 19, THEN CROSS OVER.
UH, UH, SIDEWALK HAS BEEN BUILT ON HILLSIDE FROM HERE TO PARKWAY GARDENS STARTING PROBABLY NEXT WEEK.
UM, AND SO IT'LL BE FOUR MONTHS SO PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO WALK FROM PARKWAY GARDENS, UH, TO THE CAMP SAFELY AND FROM EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UH, TO THE CAMP, YOU KNOW, FROM THE HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION, UH, TO THE CAMP.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO IT WOULD REALLY BE A, A FANTASTIC, YOU KNOW, AMENITY WHERE, UM, WHERE YOU DON'T EVEN NEED A CAR TO GET TO YOUR, I MEAN, YOU COULD TAKE A BICYCLE, UM, AND SAFELY GET TO, UH, TO MOHAWK AND YOU'D PROBABLY BE THE ONLY ONE OF THE ONLY, UM, CAMPS AROUND THAT WOULD BE TOTALLY ACCESSIBLE TO PEDESTRIANS AND, UM, AND, AND CYCLISTS SAFELY.
SO THAT I'M JUST, UH, DOING A LITTLE PLUG IN THE SIDEWALK.
AND I THINK THE, THE LAST POINT I, I, I HAVE IS, UM, ON THE USE.
I FEEL LIKE THEY GENUINELY ARE LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, ENHANCE THE USE FOR THEIR CAMPERS, BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING THE LARGE COST OF THIS, THESE IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, I UNDERSTAND THE NEED TO GENERATE REVENUE AND RENT OUT THE FACILITY, UM, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE BOARD AND, YOU KNOW, AS STAFF, WE WANNA BE CAREFUL THAT IT DOES REMAIN AN ACCESSORY USE AND DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, EVOLVE INTO, UH, SOMETHING THAT'S MORE DOMINATED BY, UM, YOU KNOW, THESE USES.
AND WHEN YOU HEAR THINGS LIKE NO REGIONAL TOURNAMENTS, NO TOURNAMENTS, MINIMAL SPECTATORS, UM, THAT DOES, THAT DOES GIVE CONFIDENCE THAT IT IS, UH, YOU KNOW, MORE OF A, AN ACCESSORY USE.
UM, BUT IN THAT CONTEXT, UH, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR IS CONTINUING TO EVALUATE JUST TO HAVE THE CONFIDENCE THAT IT IS INDEED AN ALLOWABLE ACCESSORY USE TO THE CAMP IN THE CONTEXT THAT THEY'RE PRESENTING.
UM, I DON'T BELIEVE THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S THERE YET, BUT THEY HAVE PROVIDED A LOT OF INFORMATION AND WE APPRECIATE THAT, AND I THINK WE'LL CONTINUE THAT DIALOGUE SO THAT, UM, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR CAN OPINE PROCESS WISE.
UM, BUT ABSOLUTELY SITE PLAN, APPROVAL SITE OVER FIVE ACRES, TOWN BOARD WOULD HAVE SITE LAND APPROVAL.
THERE WOULD BE A SEEKER PROCESS, SO YOU WOULD LOOK AT, UM, TRAFFIC PARKING HOURS, UH, THE VISIBILITY OF THE BUBBLE.
SO ALL STORM WATER, ALL THESE THINGS WOULD BE CONSIDERED BY THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, AND ANY OTHER BOARD INVOLVED.
SO, UM, AND SAFETY IN EVENT OF, YOU KNOW, MAJOR STORM, I THINK IN MOUNT FARIN, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, DIDN'T THEY HAVE LIKE A, A BUBBLE ACTUALLY FELL I THINK, OR THEY DID, THEY COLLAPSED.
THAT WAS, THAT, THAT WAS WHAT, MAYBE FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO.
IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF YOU, AS THE SUPERVISOR SUGGESTED YOU GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE GAME ON BUBBLE THAT WAS PROPOSED.
ONE OF THE ISSUES WAS, UH, THE OPACITY OF THE BUBBLE ITSELF.
SOME OF THESE, THEY LOOK LIKE AN ENORMOUS LIGHT BULB AT NIGHT.
AND THAT ALL DEPENDS ON THE MATERIAL THAT YOU USE FOR THE BUBBLE.
BY THE WAY, THE ENORMOUS LIGHT BULB IS NOT ATTRACTIVE.
I JUST, I WANT TO POINT OUT
NO, EXTERIOR LIGHTING MEANS LIGHTING ON THE OUTSIDE.
LIGHTING ON THE INSIDE CAN MAKE A SIGNIFICANT BULB OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE BUBBLE IF YOU USE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, UH, MATERIAL THAT ALLOWS THE LIGHT TO COME OUT SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE LIGHT OUTSIDE BECAUSE YOU LIGHT UP THE SIDEWALKS FOR EVERYBODY FROM THE LIGHT COMING THROUGH THE BUBBLE.
AND YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE, YOU'D HAVE TO HAVE SOME EXTERIOR LIGHTING IF YOU'RE OPEN THAT LATE TO GET, GET TO TRANSIT FROM THE BUBBLE TO THE PARKING LOT.
YOU HAVE, UH, LIGHTING AS REQUIRED FOR SECURITY PURPOSES ALONG THE WALKING PASS IN THE PARKING LOT.
I ASSUME TRAFFIC STUDIES WILL BE DONE.
ALL THAT INFORMATION WOULD BE PART OF A FORMAL APPLICATION.
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OKAY.MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND STAFF HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
NEXT IS, UH, BROUGHT ON, UH, YOU KNOW, YEAH.
IS EVERYONE HERE? OKAY, I'LL OVER, YEAH, JUST PRESS TO TURN THAT MIC ON.
YEAH, IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA, AND YOU CAN USE THAT AND THERE'S THE, UH, BUT YOU HERE, YOU CAN PUT IT IN HERE SO I DON'T, IT'S SO PEOPLE ON ME WHO ARE WATCHING ON TV CAN HEAR YOU, NOT US
IF YOU TURN IT ON, PRESS THE BUTTON, PRESS THE BUTTON, PRESS THE BUTTON, AND PRESS AND PRESS THE BUTTON.
IT'S ON, IT'S ON THE ACTUAL MICROPHONE ITSELF.
WELL, MY NAME'S PAMELA BOVIE AND I'M ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF SCARSDALE COUNTRY STATES.
AND WE ARE HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE SITUATION WITH THE RESERVE PARKING SPOT ON TOWN PROPERTY.
THIS IS, WE ARE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD DIRECTORS.
I'M LIZ BALKI, I MEMBER BOARD.
WE'VE, WE'VE REALLY ONLY BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR, IT'S COMING UP ON TWO YEARS NOW.
I'VE ONLY BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR EIGHT MONTHS, BUT, UM, I'M HERE TO JOIN THE OTHERS.
AND PLEASE UNDERSTAND THAT EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS, EVERY YEAR THERE'S AN ELECTION.
SO THERE ARE NEW BOARDS OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED YEARS AGO.
WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN, WE WEREN'T INVOLVED WITH THEM.
BUT ANYWAY, ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS WE'RE HERE IS BECAUSE I, WE ONLY FOUND OUT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO ABOUT THIS PROBLEM.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE YOUR LAWYER, MR. DANKO CONTACTED OUR REPRESENTATIVE, OUR MANAGING, AND WE WERE TOLD THEY HAD A CONVERSATION.
BUT I HAVE BEEN TRYING FOR A WEEK NOW TO CONTACT MR. DANKO TO FIND OUT THAT'S HIM.
CAN I JUST CLARIFY? I MEAN, NO DISRESPECT REACHING OUT TO YOU.
YES, I WAS TOLD WHO YOUR ATTORNEY IS, AND BY LAW I'M NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK TO A REPRESENTATIVE WHEN THEY'RE REPRESENTED BY AN ATTORNEY.
SO THAT'S WHY I DID NOT REACH OUT TO YOU OVER THE PAST WEEK.
AND WE HAD A MEETING ABOUT THIS INTERNALLY ON FRIDAY AFTERNOON, YESTERDAY.
I SAW YOUR MESSAGE THAT WENT OUT TO THE BOARD.
SO THERE, THERE WAS THE MISUNDERSTANDING THERE.
AND IF I HAD KNOWN THAT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE HERE TODAY, BECAUSE BASICALLY WE, WE WANTED, BEFORE WE SAY ANYTHING, I THOUGHT, BECAUSE I HADN'T HEARD FROM MR. DANKO, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WEREN'T COMMUNICATED TO BY OUR LAWYER AND OUR MANAGING AGENT, THEY DID NOT COMMUNICATE THAT TO US, AND THEY SEE THE EMAILS.
SO WE THOUGHT THAT WE WOULD COME HERE, GET THE STATUS UPDATE AND FIND OUT, AND THEN WE WOULD HAVE OUR COMMENTS LATER.
SO IF YOU COULD PLEASE TELL US WHAT IS NOW, YOU CAN'T TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON.
DO YOU NEED ATTORNEY PRESENT? WE CAN TELL YOU.
DO YOU NEED TO HAVE THE ATTORNEY PRESENT IF, IF YOU'RE WAIVING YOUR RIGHT TO HAVE AN ATTORNEY PRESENT, UM, IT, IT WOULD JUST HAVE BEEN HELPFUL TO HEAR FROM YOUR ATTORNEY OR YOUR MANAGING PARTNER THAT THAT WAS THE CASE.
I I, I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE, TO BE HONEST, THAT THIS CAN BE RESOLVED AT TODAY'S MEETING.
THE THING THAT I, THAT I DISAGREE BECAUSE YOU, I DON'T SEE THIS AS A LEGAL, YOU KNOW, ISSUE.
I SEE THIS AS BASICALLY, I FEEL REALLY POWERFUL FOR A MAN WHO IS DISABLED AND HE'S STRUGGLING TO GET TO HIS APARTMENT AND BASICALLY STRUGGLING TO GET, UM, TO HIS CAR.
SO HE SHOWED UP AT A TOWN BOARD MEETING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW THE, WE DID FIND OUT THAT, BUT WE WEREN'T TOLD THAT MR. DANKO TALKED TO LAURA, RANDY AGENT.
HE JUST SAID THAT MR. UM, BROEK HAD COME TO THIS MEETING, HAD COME TO SEE YOU.
WE DIDN'T KNOW UNTIL LATER ON THAT HE CAME AND ADDRESSED THE BOARD.
AND, AND, AND THAT WAS NOT MY REPRESENTATION TO THE MANAGING AGENT.
I DID NOT SAY HE CAME SPECIFICALLY JUST TO THAT.
WELL, I SORT OF FAILED BECAUSE, OH, CAN WE LET THE ATTORNEY SPEAK LIKE ALL THE TIME? AND ALL I WOULD LIKE IS BASICALLY FOR, YOU KNOW, LIKE A DISABLED PARKING SPOT TO BE RIGHT NEXT TO HIS HOME.
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UH, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SO STRESSED OUT BECAUSE HE CAN'T HAVE ACCESS TO AND FROM HIS, UM, YOU KNOW, APARTMENT.'CAUSE HE SAID IT'S GETTING WORK, HIS MEDICAL CONDITION IS DETERIORATING.
SO FOR, FOR HIM, UH, AND THE ONLY REASON, YOU KNOW, I'M INTERESTED, I, RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE, MY FIRST LIKE INTERNSHIP WAS WITH THE STATE OFFICE FOR THE DISABLED.
SO THE, THE HAROLD UNDERBERG WAS THE FIRST PERSON WHO WAS APPOINTED BY THE GOVERNOR.
SO I'M LIKE SO PASSIONATE ABOUT, UH, UH, DOING THINGS FOR THE DISABLED.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS I HAVE SAID TO JOE, I SAID, YEAH, THIS IS NOT REAL.
IT'S REALLY NOT YOUR PROBLEM BECAUSE OF THIS TOWN PROPERTY.
HOW COULD WE BASICALLY BE SAYING YOU'RE THE, YOU'RE THE PROBLEM WHEN WE OWN THE PROPERTY.
SO WE CAN'T PUT, IT'S LIKE I COULD SAY NOW, MR. YOU KNOW, HE BASICALLY SHOWED US A COPY OF, UM, AN EMAIL THAT HE RECEIVED FROM THE MANAGEMENT FIRM SAYING THEY WILL GIVE HIM A DESIGNATED SPOT IF HE PAYS THEM $50 A MONTH.
AND THAT, YOU KNOW, IT IS, I COULD ALSO, UH, CHARGE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, UM, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH, UH, FOR A VIEW OF THE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, STATUE OF LIBERTY.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I DON'T OWN THE LAND, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO I, YOU KNOW, UH, AND YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T, I DON'T FEEL IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR YOUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY TO BE CHARGING RENT WHEN THEY DON'T OWN LAND.
UM, AND, AND THEY, THEY WERE NOT AUTHORIZED.
AND I SAID TO JOE, I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT, WHY CAN'T WE JUST, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK OUT SOMETHING WHERE EITHER YOU BUY THE PROPERTY FROM THE TOWN, THEN YOU COULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, CONTROL OR, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, THE ONLY THING IF YOU, IF KNOW IF YOU CREATE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING SPOT FOR, FOR HIM, THEN I, I BASICALLY WOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S GONNA CREATE PROBLEMS FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR, BECAUSE HE, YOUR, EVEN THOUGH THE TOWN OWNS IT, UH, YOU KNOW, IN EFFECT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO USE IT ARE THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THE COMPLEX.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA CREATE PROBLEMS IF ALL OF A SUDDEN NOBODY HAD PARKING.
I DON'T WANNA DO THAT, MR. FINE.
BECAUSE OF THE ADVICE FROM MR. DANKO, UM, I WAS NOT AWARE OF THE LAWYER'S INVOLVEMENT.
UM, THE ONLY THING THAT I WISH TO SAY IS THAT THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND MR. RESCO DID BRING A SUIT.
HE HAS BEEN CONSTANTLY REQUESTING ACCOMMODATIONS THAT WE ARE UNABLE TO PROVIDE HIM.
AND HE'S CONSTANTLY GOING TO YOU, AND YOU ARE CONSTANTLY BECOMING INVOLVED.
CAN'T, IF I MAY, IF I MAY SPEAK PLEASE.
AND WHAT HE DID DO, HE WENT TO THE WESTCHESTER, UM, HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION.
WE SPENT AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY TO PROVE THAT WE TRIED EVERY EFFORT TO GIVE THEM ACCOMMODATION, AND WE COULD NOT.
AND HE DID MENTION AT THE APRIL MEETING THAT THEY MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE PROVIDE IN A SPOT.
THERE WAS NO SUCH RECOMMENDATION MADE.
ALL THEY SAID WAS THAT WE DID NOT DO ANYTHING FOR PROBABLE CAUSE FOR DISCRIMINATION.
AND FROM THAT POINT ON, THEN HE STARTED EMAILING MR. FEINER.
AND MR. FEINER KEPT SENDING US EMAILS, COULD YOU PLEASE DO THIS FOR HIM? COULD YOU PLEASE DO THAT FOR HIM? AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, HE IS THE SUPERVISOR.
WE FEEL VERY PRESSURED TO DO WHAT THE SUPERVISOR IS TELLING US TO DO.
AND IF WE, IT WAS NEVER OUR INTENT TO GIVE HIM A SPOT IN CHARGE FOR IT.
BUT MR. FINER WAS FULLY AWARE OF THIS RECOMMENDATION AND KNEW HE COULDN'T DO IT.
SO WE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE KEPT SENDING US EMAILS AND SAYING, COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE HIM THIS? COULD YOU PLEASE GIVE HIM A SPOT? WE ASKED YOU TO GIVE HIM, UM, A HANDICAP SPOT.
HE, THEN HE CAME TO YOU AND SAID, I WANT MY OWN PERSONAL RESERVE SPOT.
YOU SENT US AN EMAIL, PLEASE GIVE HIM HIS PERSONAL SPOT.
AND THIS IS THE SITUATION THAT WE REPLACED HIM.
WELL, MY FEELING IS THAT, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK IT'S LIKE TOTALLY OUTRAGEOUS THAT YOUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY WANTED TO CHARGE HIM.
UM, BECAUSE THERE'S NO, WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO THAT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE GARAGES THAT WE OWN.
NO, HE, THEY WANTED TO CHARGE FOR THE PARTS.
SO WE DO, WE HAVE, WE'RE GUILTY WITH EXPLANATION, RIGHT? SO THERE ARE, ARE YOU SURE YOU WANNA DO THIS WITHOUT AN ATTORNEY? NO, THEY'RE, BECAUSE THERE'S, WE NEED TO STOP.
THERE'S SOME MAJOR ISSUES INVOLVED HERE AND HOW YOU'RE USING TOWN PROPERTY AND REGULATING WHO CAN PARK THERE AND WHO CANNOT.
I DON'T, I I, BUT THE POINT I'M, I'M NOT ASKING YOU ANY, I'M PURPOSELY NOT ASKING YOU ANY QUESTION.
WE'RE JUST CONCERNED ABOUT THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE REPRESENTATION BY AN ATTORNEY.
CAN I SUGGEST, AND THEIR LEGAL ISSUES HERE A MEETING FOR EITHER LATER THIS WEEK OR EARLY NEXT WEEK TO RIGHT.
BUT, BUT CAN I JUST QUICKLY SAY TO DISCUSS THE ENTIRE LAND ISSUE? OKAY.
DON'T TELL ME WHAT TO SAY OR DON'T SAY ALL I'M SAYING, BUT THAT'S HOW WE GET NO, LEMME SAY SOMETHING
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ENORMOUS.WE HAVE A LEGAL, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT I FAILED, THE TOWN OWNS THE PROPERTY.
SO THE THING IS, IT'S NOT YOUR ISSUE AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, BECAUSE BASICALLY WE OWN THE PROPERTY.
YOU DON'T, AND THAT'S WHAT HE KEPT 10.
SO THE THING, RIGHT? SO THE THING IS, IF WE OWN THE PROPERTY, I FEEL THAT THE TOWN HAS A MORAL RESPONSIBILITY TO BASICALLY GET HIM A DISABLED PARKING.
OVER THE YEARS, OVER THE YEARS, OUR TOWN GOVERNMENT HAS MADE MAJOR, MAJOR EFFORTS TO MAKE, UH, GREENBERG ACCESSIBLE FOR THE DISABLED.
IF, IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE DIDN'T OWN THE PROPERTY, WE COULD BE ADVOCATES, BUT, BUT THE THING IS, WE OWN THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S NOT FAIR TO BLAME YOU WHEN YOU, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, IF YOUR MANAGEMENT COMPANY WANTS TO CHARGE RENT, THAT'S YOU, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT UP WITH THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY.
THEY MIGHT HAVE ACTED INAPPROPRIATELY, BUT THE THING IS, RIGHT NOW, WHETHER THE, THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY, WHATEVER THEY DO, IS IRRELEVANT.
THE ISSUE IS, I FEEL VERY, VERY, THAT THIS MAN USES A WALKER.
HE FINDS IT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO GET TO, UM, HIS HOUSE, TO GET TO HIS CAR.
HIS MEDICAL CONDITION IS DETERIORATING.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S UNCONSCIONABLE FOR THE TOWN, UH, EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A MONTH, EVERY DAY THAT GOES BY WHERE HE'S BASICALLY STRUGGLING, UH, TO HAVE ACCESS TO HIS UNIT BUILDING, UH, TO ME IS, IS VERY, VERY SAD.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I'M, I'M NOT LOOKING AT THIS AS A POLITICIAN OR AS YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE PROBLEMS FOR YOU.
I'M NOT TRYING TO CREATE PROBLEMS FOR, YOU KNOW, YOUR COMPLEX BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA REAL, I WANNA FIGURE OUT LIKE A WAY WHERE WE CAN WORK TOGETHER.
UH, SO THIS WAY, I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A BOARD MEETING, SAY, GOSH, WE'RE REALLY IN A PANIC.
YOU KNOW, WE COULD LOSE ALL OUR, UH, I DON'T WANT TO, I'M NOT LIKE LOOKING TO THREATEN.
I'M NOT LOOKING TO CREATE PROBLEMS. ALL I WANNA DO IS GET ONE APARTMENT SPOT IF THERE'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON WHO'S DISABLED.
IF WE COULD GET, LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD ACCOMMODATE, YOU KNOW, THEIR NEEDS AND CAN, CAN WE REVISIT MY SUGGESTION TO SCHEDULE A TIME TO SIT DOWN WITH THEM, WITH THEIR ATTORNEY AND WE RESOLVE THE ENTIRE LAND ISSUE ALTOGETHER? YES.
EITHER SOMETIME LATER THIS WEEK OR EARLIER, WE CAN PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA FOR TUESDAY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS.
WELL, ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR, NOTHING EVER GETS DONE.
ARE YOU, UH, DONE WITH THE ILLEGAL RESEARCH? I THINK I'M READY.
I'M READY TO HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH THEIR ATTORNEY, TO, TO MOVE THIS FORWARD, TO HAVE IT AN AN INITIAL DISCUSSION.
I DON'T BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT TAKE A, A FEW DISCUSSIONS TO GET THIS FINALLY RESOLVED.
I KNOW IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR QUITE SOME TIME, BUT EVEN IF WE CAN HAVE A TEMPORARY DISABLED SPOT WHILE WE'RE DISCUSSING IT ON THAT, FINE WITH ME TOO.
SO COULDN'T THE TOWN PUT THAT IN? YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE WE, AGAIN, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT
I THINK WHY DON'T WE JUST, WHY DON'T WE JUST, IF IF EVERY, IF THE TOWN WILL DO NOBODY A PROBLEM, WHY DON'T WE JUST PUT UP LIKE A, THAT HAS BEEN ISSUE A SIGN, AND THEN YOU COULD TAKE AS LONG AS YOU WANT.
IF YOU WANNA TAKE, UH, SIX MONTHS TO RESOLVE IT, THEN I DON'T CARE.
BECAUSE YEAH, I THINK AS LONG AS OUR DEPARTMENT OF MAINTENANCE, D P W DETERMINES THAT IT MEETS REGULATIONS THAT IT NEEDS TO MEET, SO MAYBE WE COULD SCHEDULE A TIME FOR THEM TO GO OUT
AND THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO AN ISSUE AS TO WHETHER OR NOT YOU CAN DESIGNATE A HANDICAP SPOT TO AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON, RIGHT? IT'S TOWN PROPERTY.
NOW WE HAVE TO ALLOW THE PUBLIC WHO ARE HANDICAPPED TO USE A SPOT.
BUT, BUT THIS IS, MIGHT BE THAT WE CREATE MORE THAN ONE, FOUR OR FIVE.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE OLDER, MANY PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR 35 PLUS YEARS.
I'M, I'M WONDERING, CAN WE LISTEN TO OUR ATTORNEY'S ADVICE, WHICH IT'S, I, I, I UNDERSTAND AND I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EXPLAIN ABOUT THE CHARGING BECAUSE IT'S, IT SEEMS, I THINK HE SHOULD SAY NOTHING.
HE SAID WE SHOULD SAY NOTHING.
I, I SAID I SUGGEST A MEETING.
I'M SORRY, LATER THIS WEEK OR EARLY NEXT WEEK.
WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? I APOLOGIZE.
DO YOU WANNA RE WHY DON'T YOU HAVE YOUR ATTORNEY REACH OUT TO YES.
THE TOWN ATTORNEY SO THAT YOU CAN SET UP A SCHEDULE A, A DATE AND TIME.
AND IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO BE THERE, BESIDES, I KNOW THE SUPERVISOR WOULD LIKE TO BE THERE.
IF ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER, WE COULD HAVE ONE MORE, UM, WITHOUT IT BEING A PUBLIC MEETING, OBVIOUSLY.
I THINK WE ALL WANNA SORT OF RESOLVE THIS, RIGHT? YES, IT'S POSSIBLE.
IT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A LONG TIME.
AND, AND LISTEN, I UNDERSTAND.
AND MY MOTHER'S DISABLED, SO I GET IT.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALL, WE ALL KNOW SOMEBODY WHO IS IN THE SITUATION.
AND SOMETIMES PEOPLE ARE WALKING EVEN DOWN A CURB AND IT'S NOT THERE.
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SO STRESSFUL FOR SOMEBODY.SO OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE VERY, VERY SAD.
AND THIS MAN IS CRYING TO ME EVERY SINGLE DAY AND VERY, VERY UPSET.
AND, YOU KNOW, MY HEART BREAKS OUT FOR HIM.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'D RATHER, I'M NOT LOOKING AT THIS AS A TOWN SUPERVISOR.
I'M LOOKING AT THIS BECAUSE I, I REALLY FEEL LIKE, FEEL LIKE CRYING EVERY TIME I SPEAK TO HIM.
NO, BUT I, I FEEL SO BAD FOR HIM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, MY HEART BREAKS FOR HIM AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST REALLY DON'T FEEL THAT SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE TO BE SO STRESSED.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR ME IT'S, YOU KNOW, A WEEK OR THREE DAYS DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
BUT FOR HIM, EVERY DAY MEANS SOMETHING BECAUSE IT'S LIKE EVERY DAY CREATES A LOT OF ANXIETY, A LOT OF STRESS, A LOT OF AGGRAVATION.
YOU KNOW, HE'S ALWAYS PANICKING.
HE'S WORRIED THAT HE'S GONNA FALL.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY, THERE'S SO MANY ISSUES.
UNDERSTAND, WE SYNTHESIZE EVERYONE UNDER, EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS PAUL, AND EVERYONE HAS EMPATHY.
NO ONE HAS THREE OR FOUR DAYS IS A LOT OF TIME FOR HIM.
THIS IS GOING ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
AND YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, WHEN THIS ISSUE CAME UP AND YOU WROTE TO THE, TO THE BOARD AND SAID, COULD YOU MAKE A SPOT? YOU'RE ASKING SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T OWN THE PROPERTY WHEN YOU, WHEN THE TOWN DOES, TO PUT ON A SPOT, WHICH YOU'RE, YOU'RE BASICALLY GIVING THEM THE POWER OVER TOWN PROPERTY, WHICH IS NOT APPROPRIATE TO DO.
I'M NOT SURE IF THAT HAPPENED.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, AGAIN, LET, LET'S, LET'S STOP THE CONVERSATION RIGHT HERE.
YOU'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO TALK, RATHER WITH THE LAWYER AND EVERYTHING.
YOU MIGHT INQUIRE, YOU MIGHT INQUIRE OF YOUR ATTORNEY WHY HE DIDN'T APPRISE YOU, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, WHAT WAS GOING ON, SUCH THAT YOU ENDED UP HERE.
NEXT WE HAVE, UH, COLBY'S MARKET.
IS IS COLBY JENKINS'?
HI COLBY, COULD YOU THANK YOU.
COULD YOU PLEASE LET THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS IN AND THE, UM, AND UH, THE MARKET MANAGER PLEASE? I, ATHENA HAD DECLINED TO BE PROMOTED.
UH, MAYBE SHE DIDN'T SEE THE PROMPT.
CAN YOU ALSO LET MS. SEAN IN? THEY'RE NOT IN, THEY'RE NOT ON ZOOM.
I SEE THE OTHER SESSION WENT A LITTLE BIT OVER, SO SOMETIMES YOU JUST HAVE TO BE PATIENT.
SO YOU CAN TELL US WHAT YOUR CONCERNS ARE OR WHAT YOU WANNA DO.
DO YOU HAVE EVERYBODY ON COLBY IS THE ISSUE? COLBY? UM, I'M SORRY, WHAT IS THE ISSUE? I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE.
I I THOUGHT YOU ALL HAD SOME QUESTIONS FOR, UM, THE MARKET MANAGER AND I, NO, I'M NOT CLEAR ON EXACTLY WHERE THE MARKET, THE, THE BOOTHS WILL BE.
SO YOU, YOU WERE LOOKING TO, UH, LEASE PROPERTY FROM 90 AND A HUNDRED MANHATTAN AVENUE AND HAS THAT OCCURRED? ATHENA? UM, OKAY.
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THERE'S A STREET, THE STREET CLOSURE ON ELM STREET.WE'RE, WE'RE DOING A SIMPLE STREET CLOSURE.
SO THE BOOTHS ARE GONNA BE ON THE STREET.
IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE STREET OF ELM STREET AS, UH, AS IF YOU WERE HAVING A BLOCK PARTY, THE THREE, UH, BOOTHS WILL BE, WILL BE LINED UP AND THERE'LL BE A STREET CLOSURE.
AND WHERE, AND WE HAVE SECURE STREET WITH THE, UH, WITH THE, UM, INSURANCE COMPANY AS WELL AS THE PARKING, PARKING LOT DOES THE INSURANCE POLICY MENTIONED ELM STREET, GIVING US AN INDONE VACATION.
THEY, UM, WE, UM, BECAUSE WE RECEIVED THE MESSAGE FROM OUR, FROM THE ATTORNEY, UM, AND THAT HAS BEEN ATHENA.
YOU SPOKE WITH THE INSURANCE COMPANY TODAY, RIGHT? YES.
SO THAT IS BEING UPDATED AND BEING CORRECTED.
SO YES, THAT WILL BE STIPULATED ON THE INSURANCE.
SO, UM, WHAT, WHAT WE JUST WANNA MAKE VERY CLEAR IS IT'S ALREADY ON THE INSURANCE POLICY, RIGHT? BUT IT'S NOT ON THE, UH, CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE THAT YOU SAW, BUT YOU ALSO SEE THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS ALSO AN ADDITIONAL INSURER THAT WAS ADDED AS WELL.
SO YOU'RE, SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT ELM STREET LOCATION WILL BE ADDED TO THE LIABILITY, LIABILITY INSURANCE CERTIFICATE AND ALSO WILL BE INCLUDED AS THE GREEN GREENBERG OFFICIALS EMPLOYEES AND, AND AGENTS WILL BE INCLUDED AS WELL.
IT IS GREENBURG AS, IT'S THE TOWN AS A WHOLE.
IT HAS THE ADDRESS FOR TOWN HALL AND, AND THAT COVERS THE ENCOMPASS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND IT ALSO IS THE, UM, THE, UH, THE ADDITIONAL INSURERS THAT ARE ON THERE.
ALL OF THOSE ADDITIONAL INSURERS.
I WOULD, I WOULD RECOMMEND INCLUDING OFFICIALS, AGENTS AND EMPLOYEES AS WELL.
AND I COULD SEND THAT SUGGESTION TO MR. BERNSTEIN WHO MAY BE ON THIS AS WELL.
SO ALSO VOLUNTEERS WORKING IN THEIR CAPACITY.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE WORKERS' COMP.
UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S, THAT'S ABOUT, BUT IS THERE A CONTRACT? I I BELIEVE MANY ON THE BOARD WERE OF THE BELIEF THAT YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE YOUR FAR MARKET IN THE PARKING LOT AND THE TOWN WOULD NOT HAVE ANY ROLE OR NEED AND YOU WOULD NEED INSURANCE, UH, TO, TO PROTECT THE TOWN.
UH, IF YOU DID THAT AND WE'RE, WE'RE HEARING FROM YOU THAT YOU STILL WANNA USE ELM STREET.
I THOUGHT THE IDEA WAS FOR YOU TO USE THE 90 AND A HUNDRED.
COLBY, ARE YOU THERE? I WOULD REQUEST THE CONTRACT.
THERE IS DOWN'S CLOSED STREET, STREET.
I'M HEARING OF ELM STREET BEING USED FOR BOOTS.
ELM STREET IS BEING, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, UM, WHAT IS BEING USED IS ELM STREET.
IT IS NOT THE, UH, ATHENA, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN IT IS ELM STREET AND NOT THE PARKING LOT.
UM, WE'RE NOT USING THE PARKING LOT.
UM, THAT IS WHAT IS BEING STIPULATED IN THE INSURANCE PAPERS AND ALSO ON THE CERTIFICATE.
THE QUESTION IS WHY, WHY ARE YOU NOT USING THE PARKING LOT? SO THE TOWN WOULD NOT HAVE ANY ROLE AND IT WOULD ALL BE IN THE PARKING LOTS SAFE OFF OF THE STREET AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO HAVE INDEMNIFICATION OF THE, THE TOWN EMPLOYEES, VOLUNTEERS, ET CETERA.
'CAUSE THE TOWN WOULD BE OUT OF IT IF YOU SIMPLY PUT THE BOOTS IN THE PARKING LOT AS WELL.
I HAVEN'T HEARD WHY YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE MANY OF US ARE HEARING ABOUT THIS.
IT CERTAINLY WASN'T IN THE CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE THAT WAS INITIALLY SENT TO US.
SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ELM STREET WAS PART OF IT.
WHEN THE CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE WAS PROPOSED BECAUSE IT WASN'T LISTED, IT DEFINITELY WAS FRANCIS, UM, EXCUSE ME, TOWN.
AND IT IS, IT'S JUST THAT IT WAS NOT LISTED ON THERE, BUT IT DEFINITELY IS.
AND THAT IS WHAT THE INSURANCE COMPANY CAME OUT TO INSPECT.
THEY CAME OUT TO INSPECT, UM, ATHENA WAS THERE.
THEY CAME OUT TO INSPECT THE ENTIRE STREET.
THE INSURANCE COMPANY THOUGHT THE ENTIRE STREET WAS WAS PERFECT, AS WELL AS THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE GOING TO BE USED.
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THOSE COME TO SHOP, THEY CAN COME INTO THE PARKING LOT OF MR. SOLDIERS AND GO AND SHOP AND LEAVE THE PROPERTY.SO ALL WE ARE ASKING FOR AT THIS POINT IS A SIMPLE STREET CLOSURE.
IF THIS CAN'T BE SETTLED, WE CAN GO BACK TO THE ATTORNEY AND THEN WE CAN MEET BACK WITH YOU ALL WITH, UM, THE ATTORNEY, IF THAT'S OKAY.
SO, SO AM I, UH, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND, YOU'VE MADE PARKING ARRANGEMENTS FOR 90 AND A HUNDRED FOR THEIR PARKING LOTS, THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING PARKED, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THAT'S WHERE PATRIOTS WILL BE ABLE TO PARK.
AND WE'RE JUST ASKING FOR A SIMPLE STREET CLOSURE FROM THE HOURS OF NINE TO TWO, FROM THE HOURS OF EIGHT TO 3:00 PM AND FOR H ABOUT HOW MANY VENDORS YOU EXPECTING AND THEY'LL BE PARKING IN THE LOTS AS WELL.
SO FAR WE HAVE, SO FAR WE HAVE SECURED 12 VENDORS.
UM, SO AT THIS TIME WE HAVE SECURED 12 VENDORS.
CLEARLY DETAILS HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT, SO I SUGGEST WE TAKE COLBY'S SUGGESTION AND HAVE THE ATTORNEYS, UM, DISCUSS THIS.
THE ONLY THE ONLY ISSUE IS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, KEPT GOING ON AND ON AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I WASN'T SUCCESSFUL WAS BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, BY TIME EVERYTHING WAS APPROVED, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, ALL THE FARMERS HAD LEFT.
YOU HAVE THE FARMERS ALREADY SECURED FOR THIS? UH, NO, THAT, I'M SORRY.
UM, I JUST WANNA, I KNOW THAT'S PRETTY MUCH YOUR POINT OF VIEW, BUT ACTUALLY THAT WASN'T THE REASON WHY THE MARKET WASN'T SUCCESSFUL.
UM, THE LOCATION WHERE THE MARKET IS, IS PRETTY MUCH A DEAD ZONE.
UM, I PERSONALLY DID FOOT TRAFFIC ON THREE SEPARATE OCCASIONS, GIVING OUT FLYERS, WALKING, UH, BETWEEN 10 AND 15 BLOCKS IN EACH DIRECTION.
AND DURING THAT TIME, THERE IS NO MINIMAL TO NO FOOT TRAFFIC IN THAT AREA.
SO THAT IS THE REASON WHY THE MARKET WAS NOT SUCCESSFUL.
WE HAD FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM, TWITTER, WE GAVE OUT FLYERS.
PEOPLE WHO CAME, WE GAVE THEM FLYERS TO GIVE OUT TO THEIR NEIGHBORS.
I PERSONALLY GAVE OUT FLYERS ON THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS AND THE, THE TIME THAT THE MARKET TOOK PLACE DURING THE WEEK, IT'S, IT'S A DEAD ZONE THERE.
THERE'S HARDLY ANY FOOT TRAFFIC.
SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE LOST VENDORS.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING TO HAVE IT AT A NEW LOCATION WHERE THERE IS MORE, NOT JUST VISIBILITY, BUT THERE'S MORE FOOT TRAFFIC AND ELM STREET WITH THE CROSS STREET OF MANHATTAN AVENUE, IT'S AN EXCELLENT LOCATION BECAUSE THERE'S RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS, IT'S VISIBLE AND THERE'S VERY HIGH FOOT TRAFFIC.
UM, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO, UM, LOOK AT SAY THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, SITE, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A SENIOR HOUSING OPENING UP? NO, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE ARE LOOKING TO DO.
NUMBER ONE, UH, UH, THE, THE, UH, COMMITTEE DISCUSSED THE, UM, POSSIBILITIES OF BEING THERE AND JUST HAVING THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE ON TOP OF THE SENIORS IS A SAFETY HAZARD.
IT'S, THAT'S NUMBER ONE IN TERMS OF HEALTH AND THEIR WELLBEING.
AND I, AND, AND THE TEAM WOULDN'T EVEN DREAM OF WANTING TO PUT THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE AND THE POPULATION FROM ALL OVER ON TOP OF SENIOR CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY WHEN SO MANY OF THEM DIED FROM COVID DURING THE PANDEMIC.
ALSO, THE OTHER ISSUE IS, UH, IF, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SPOKE TO THE POLICE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD TRY USING, UH, AUXILIARY POLICE OFFICERS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF, BUT IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FAILS THAT, UM, THEY NEED TO HIRE A POLICE OFFICER OFFICER IF THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH AUXILIARY, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS WOULD, UM, YOU BE, UH, WILLING TO ABSORB, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE COST IS, YOU KNOW, EITHER OF, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR, UH, OR HIRE YOUR OWN OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS, DIRECT TRAFFIC.
IF YOU KNOW YOU'RE SUCCESSFUL AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TRAFFIC TRAFFIC, WELL WE NEED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE POLICE CHIEF TO DISCUSS THAT, TO SEE IF THEY CAN HAVE AN AUXILIARY OFFICER THERE.
SO WE NEED TO CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET TO IT.
UM, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HAVE TO ABSORB THAT COST BECAUSE THIS IS FOR
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THE COMMUNITY.SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE POLICE CHIEF AT THE NEXT MEETING, HOPEFULLY HE CAN MAKE HIMSELF AVAILABLE OR WE WILL REACH OUT TO HIM TO SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH HIM TO DISCUSS THAT MATTER.
I DO WANNA CORRECT SOMETHING THAT WE HEAR OFTEN IS THAT THE TOWN DELAYED THE CONTRACT LAST YEAR, AND THAT'S WHY IT WAS HARD TO GET VENDORS.
THE TOWN BOARD ACTUALLY APPROVED THE FIRST ITERATION OF THE CONTRACT, UH, IN THE BEGINNING OF MAY.
BUT AFTER WE, THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE CONTRACT SO THAT THEY COULD START IN JUNE, UH, THERE WAS CONCERN OVER WHETHER OR NOT THE NAME OF KOBE JUNCTIONS JENKINS SHOULD APPEAR, OR THE L L C SHOULD APPEAR.
ANOTHER ATTORNEY WAS BROUGHT IN, UH, REPRESENTING HER, AND THAT THEN WAS A RECOMMENDATION TO MOVE IT TO JULY.
BUT THE TOWN BOARD ACTUALLY, UM, APPROVED THE CONTRACT IN MAY, AND IT WAS ONLY BECAUSE IT WASN'T EXECUTED, UM, ON.
FRANCIS, THANK YOU FOR, UM, WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BRINGING THAT, UM, THAT TOPIC UP.
UM, AT THIS POINT WE WILL JUST DISCUSS THIS WITHOUT WHAT THE ATTORNEY, AND WE'LL BE JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH COMING BACK TO YOU ALL AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND, UH, WE'LL JUST SPEAK TO THE ATTORNEY TO JUST GET EVERYTHING MOVED ALONG AND WE WILL WORK THROUGH OUR ATTORNEY, UM, GOING FORWARD TO GET THIS MOVED ON, UM, SO THAT OUR MARKET MANAGERS CAN, UM, BEGIN TO DO THE WORK.
THIS IS ABOUT FOOD INSECURITY, FOOD INJUSTICE, UM, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND THIS IS, UH, AS THE INSURANCE COMPANY TOLD ATHENA, UM, AND THEM WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY CAME TO DO THE VISIT, THIS IS GOD'S WORK.
THIS IS GOD'S WORK THAT IS BEING DONE OUT HERE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND BRINGING PORK THIS FARMER'S MARKET IN THE HEART OF THE COMMUNITY.
IF YOU GO TO TARRYTOWN, IF YOU GO TO, UH, DOB SUR, IF YOU GO TO IRVINGTON, IF YOU GO TO BRONXVILLE, IF YOU GO TO GO TO, UH, CHAPPAQUA, ALL OF THESE PLACES, THEY HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET IN THE COMMUNITY IS, IS, AND THE LEADERS OF THE COMMUNITY ARE WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY TO GET IT DONE.
ATHENA HAS, UM, AND EVERYONE HAS A, UH, SECURED THE, THE NON-FOR-PROFIT THAT IS GOING TO, UH, UM, OFFICIALLY BE GOING FORWARD FOR THIS FARMER'S MARKET AS A NON-FOR-PROFIT.
SO WE ARE NOT, LOOK, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT LOOKING TO BE A PROFITABLE SITUATION, BUT A SITUATION TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS FOOD INSECURITIES ARE BEING SERVICED IN THIS COMMUNITY, IN THIS AFRICAN AMERICAN POPULATION OF THE COMMUNITY WHERE, UM, WHERE PEOPLE THERE ARE OF LOWER INCOME.
SO THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS, WHAT IS THE WORK THAT THE, THE MARKET MANAGERS AND THEM ARE TRYING TO PUT FORTH.
THEY ARE PUTTING FORTH A SERVICE OF LOVE OF OF, OF COMMUNITY WORK, UM, COMMUNITY SERVICE AND IN SUPPORT OF MAKING SURE THAT FRESH FRUITS AND VEGETABLES ARE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
ANY OTHER COMMUNITY, THEIR FARMER'S MARKETS ARE UP AND THEY'RE THRIVING AND THEY'RE DOING EVERYTHING TO POUR INTO THEM.
AND I PRAY THAT THERE IS NO HINDRANCE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MARKET.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO, UM, I INSTRUCT, UH, ATHENA TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE ATTORNEY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING BACK IN TOUCH WITH YOUR ATTORNEY.
THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IN TERMS OF THE INSURANCE IS, UM, DONE BECAUSE THERE'S SOME TYPE OF MISCOMMUNICATION HERE.
BECAUSE WE WERE, WE, UH, THERE WAS THOUGHT THAT WE KNEW THAT THIS WAS ELM STREET, NOT IN THE PARKING LOT OF THERE.
THE ONLY THING WE HAD TO DO WAS GET THE PERMISSION FROM THE LANDLORD.
WE HAD GOTTEN PERMISSION FROM THE, THE LANDLORD, THE MARKET MANAGERS HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THEM.
THEY HAVE RECEIVED THE INSURANCE CERTIFICATE.
THEY ARE ALREADY AND SET TO GO.
AND, AND, AND MR. SOLDIER ALSO WENT AS FAR AS TO SEND US AN EMAIL TODAY LETTING US KNOW THAT HE HAS THAT, THAT THEY, WE HAVE THEIR, THEIR FULL SUPPORT.
WE ALSO HAVE, UM, ATHENA CAN TELL YOU THEY HAVE SECURED BLACK FARMERS UNITED, THEY HAVE SENT, UM, AND HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT THAT THEY, UM, ATHENA WILL SEND OVER TO YOU ALL AS WELL AS, UH, GLENWOOD.
SHE SECURED GLENWOOD, UM, FOR THE C S A SHARES.
SO IF ANYONE HAS FOOD STAMPS OR SNAP, THEY CAN PURCHASE VEGETABLES FOR A LOWER INCOME PRICE.
UM, SO ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN SECURED ON THE BACK END AND LIKE I SAID, WE ARE JUST PRAYING THAT WE CAN JUST, UM, THAT THIS CAN JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD.
BUT AS WE SEE, THERE'S SOME SITUATIONS HERE.
SO, UM, I'LL HAVE ATHENA GET BACK WITH THE ATTORNEY SO THAT WE CAN MEET WITH YOUR ATTORNEY AND
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JUST MOVE FORWARD FROM HERE.UM, I'M SORRY, I JUST WANTED TO SAY ONE THING.
UM, COLBY, UM, THIS, THIS FARMER'S MARKET IS BENEFITING EVERYONE.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ABOUT AFRICAN AMERICANS AND LATINOS.
THIS, THIS IS BENEFITING HUMAN BEINGS.
WHEN WE HAD THE FARMER'S MARKET LAST YEAR IN FRONT OF GREENBERG TOWN HALL, THE PEOPLE THAT VENTURED OUT AND CAME, NOT ONLY WERE THEY VERY SUPPORTIVE, THEY WERE VERY SURPRISED BECAUSE WE HAD A LOT OF RESIDENTS SAYING THAT IT SEEMED LIKE WE WERE THE FORGOTTEN THAT, YOU KNOW, FINALLY WE WERE GETTING WHAT OTHER TOWNS WERE GETTING.
SO WE KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS VALUABLE AND IS NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO GET FRESH PRODUCE, FRESH VEGETABLES, FRESH BAKED GOODS, JUST LIKE THE OTHER TOWNS AND COUNTIES THAT COLBY MENTIONED.
UM, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO US RESOLVING WHATEVER LEGALISTIC ISSUES WE MIGHT HAVE BECAUSE WE ALL AGREE THAT IT IS A GOOD THING TO HAVE THE FARMER'S MARKET.
COULD WE, SHOULD WE ABSOLUTELY.
SHOULD WE PUT THIS, EVERYBODY THE AGENDA? THE ISSUE IS NOT, AND I JUST WANNA SAY, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THE ONLY THING THAT, THAT THIS TEAM, THIS COMMITTEE IS REQUESTING IS A SIMPLE STREET CLOSURE OF ELM STREET ALL THE WAY UP.
THEY CAN CLOSE IT OFF AT MANHATTAN AVENUE.
MAR MARK SOJA HAS WORKED WITH THIS COMMITTEE TO, TO ASSURE THAT THEY, WE HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING SPACES FOR THE, SO FOR THOSE THAT ARE COMING TO THE MARKET, THE STREET JUST NEEDS TO BE CLOSED OFF WITH A POLICE BARRICADE.
AND, AND THE, THE TRUCK DRIVERS AND ATHENA BROUGHT THIS TO MY ATTENTION.
THE TRUCK DRIVERS THAT PARK IN THAT BLOCK DAILY, WE DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE TOWN.
AMAZON TRUCKS, ALL DIFFERENT TYPE OF TRUCKS PARK THERE EVERY DAY, AND THEY LEAVE THEIR TRUCKS THERE.
AND ALL WE'RE ASKING IS THAT THEY HAVE A SIGN PUT UP STATING THAT THEY CAN'T PARK THERE ON SATURDAYS AND THE STREET WILL BE CLEANED.
WE, WE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THE STREET IS CLEANED.
THE, THE PORTA POTTY IS UP THE BLOCK.
UH, WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH C R P TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, PORTA POTTY IS, UH, ALWAYS CLEANED AND AND SERVICED.
UM, UM, SO THAT'S BASICALLY ALL THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAS ASKED OF IS THAT THAT STREET BE CLOSED OFF SO THAT THE MARKET MANAGERS CAN DO WHAT THEY CAN DO, DO WHAT ALL THAT THEY GONNA DO TO MAKE THAT THIS MARKET BE A SUCCESSFUL, BEAUTIFUL MARKET IN THIS COMMUNITY, WHICH SO DESSER, IT'S SO DESERVING OF IT, THEY DESERVE THE MARKET JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER MARKET IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT WE SEE ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF, OUTSIDE OF FAIRVIEW.
COULD WE MAYBE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT TUESDAY AND HOPEFULLY BETWEEN NOW NEXT TUESDAY? WELL, THE ATTORNEYS, THE ATTORNEYS, WE, WE JUST, THE ATTORNEYS HAVE TO WORK THIS OUT.
NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THIS WAY, THEY WANNA START THIS IN JUNE AND IF WE HAVE A MEETING NEXT TUESDAY, WE CAN HAVE AT LEAST A PROGRESS REPORT AND WELL, LET'S AIM FOR NEXT TUESDAY AND HOPEFULLY I'M YEAH, I'M FINE GIVING A PROGRESS REPORT.
I WILL SPEAK TO THE ATTORNEY AND TRY TO HAVE THIS RESOLVED.
OKAY, UH, NEXT, UH, UH, YOU HAVE THE TRUTHFUL DISCLOSURE BY CANDIDATES.
UM, THE COUNTY PASSED A LAW FOR THE, FOR SOMETHING VERY SIMILAR, UH, AT THE BEGINNING OF MARCH, CALLING OUT FOR, UH, CAN CANDIDATES TO FILE, UM, A TRUTHFUL DISCLOSURE FORM WITH THE ETHICS BOARD.
AND THERE, THERE ARE SOME CAVEATS TO THIS.
I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO JOE, BUT I ASKED JOE TO PREPARE THIS.
I GAVE YOU EACH COPY SO THAT YOU COULD FOLLOW ALONG.
UM, I'M SORRY, GINA, I THINK YOU, IS GINA STILL ON? YES, SHE IS.
YOU DO HAVE IT ON YOUR COMPUTER, SO IF YOU WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT.
AND JOE, WHY DON'T YOU EXPLAIN IT.
SO THIS HAS JUST BEEN SENT AROUND INTERNALLY AT THIS POINT, AND IT DOES MIMIC THE COUNTY LAW, WHICH HAS RECENTLY BEEN PASSED.
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POINT OUT THAT THIS HAS NOT BEEN SHARED WITH THE BOARD OF ETHICS YET, BUT I KNOW WE HAD DISCUSSED THAT.SHOULD THE BOARD, THE TOWN BOARD WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS TO SEND IT TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS AS WELL SO THEY COULD DO A, A REVIEW OPINE? YEAH, EXACTLY.
SO THIS WOULD AMEND, UH, THE TOWN CODE, SPECIFICALLY THE, THE CODE OF ETHICS, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE A CANDIDATE DISCLOSURE FORM.
THIS WOULD NOT BE, UM, REPLACING THE STATEMENT OF FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE, WHICH CANDIDATES ALREADY HAVE TO FILE.
THIS WOULD BE IN ADDITION TO THAT FORM.
AND SO WHAT YOU WOULD FILL OUT WITHIN 30 DAYS OF EITHER BEING, BECOMING A CANDIDATE OR BEING APPOINTED TO AN ELECTED POSITION, UH, YOU WOULD FILL OUT THIS FORM STATING YOUR LEGAL NAME AS WELL AS ANY PREVIOUSLY USED LEGAL NAMES, THE NAMES OF ALL POST-SECONDARY EDUCATION INSTITUTIONS YOU'VE ATTENDED, UH, THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF ALL FULL-TIME EMPLOYMENT YOU'VE HELD WITHIN 10 YEARS PRIOR TO CANDIDACY OR APPOINTMENT, UH, ANY MILITARY SERVICE.
AND THEN FINALLY A CERTIFICATE, WHICH SAYS THAT THIS IS A TRUE AND COMPLETE, UH, STATEMENT TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE CONFIRMING THE LIST OF ALL THE, UM, REQUIREMENTS I JUST SAID.
SO ESSENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS A RESUME THAT IS DETAILED AND ALSO HAS AN ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AT THE END THAT IT'S A TRUE AND ACCURATE STATEMENT.
CER AND CERTIFIED IT, IT SHOULD BE A SWORN STATEMENT UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY.
AND I BELIEVE IT SHOULD SAY THAT, CORRECT? YEP.
WHAT DOES IT MEAN BY NOTIFICATION BY THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS OF THE CANDIDATE OR CANDIDATES FOR AN ELECTED OFFICE? HOW CAN YOU BE A CANDIDATE OF ELECT FOR ELECTED OFFICE? A A CANDIDATE ON THE, WE WE COULD CLEAR UP THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT.
I THINK THE ATTEMPT WAS A CANDIDATE ON THE BALLOT.
BUT A PERSON CAN'T BE A CANDIDATE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M HAVING STRUGGLE WITH.
LIKE APPOINTMENT OF A PERSON TO AN ELECTED POSITION, SUCH AS, SO THAT'S SINGULAR, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, UM, THE F D A, THIS WAS APPROVED BY THE COUNTY FOR WHAT IT WAS CONSIDERED.
I THOUGHT THAT BECAUSE THIS WAS A RESULT OF CONGRESSMAN SANTOS, UH, YOU KNOW, RULE OF LIES, BUT NOTHING'S HAPPENED TO HIM.
UM, AND I THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE PROVISION IN THE LAW, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD ASK FOR STATE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD, UH, AUTHORIZE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL WHO LIED ON, UM, HIS RESUME TO BE RECALLED.
WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM THIS.
WE COULD MAYBE WE COULD GO A STEP FURTHER AND PASS THIS.
AND THEN I DO BELIEVE THAT THE STATE IS HAVING SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T HURT TO MOTIVATE THEM.
BECAUSE IT'S REALLY THE, THE STATE LAW THAT PREVENTS RECALL.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH SANTOS AND OTHER STATES.
I BELIEVE HE MIGHT'VE BEEN RECALLED.
AND ALSO SOMEBODY LIES WHAT'S THE RAM? YOU KNOW? YEAH.
WHAT'S THE RAMIFICATIONS OF, YOU KNOW, UM, SOMEBODY FILLS OUT A FORM AND YEAH, I THINK, I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER JONES JUST SAID THAT YOU'D BE SUBJECT TO PERJURY.
I THINK THAT ADDITION NEEDS TO BE MADE.
WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THAT PENALTY? IT'S UP TO A YEAR IN JAIL.
PERJURY IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT PERJURY IS A CRIMINAL OFFENSE.
SHOULD BE UP TO A YEAR IN JAIL.
MY GUESS THAT SANTOS WOULD HAVE FILLED IT OUT AND SIGNED IT AND EXPLAINED THAT IN HIS INTERPRETATION.
ONLY TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.
IT, IT'S JUST, IT JUST GIVES SUCH A BAD NAME TO THE WORD, UM, THE MEANING OF THE WORD POLITICIAN.
WHICH IS WHY I FELT THAT WAS I RIGHT.
INCUMBENT UPON US TO DO WHAT WE COULD.
IT DOESN'T HAVE, UH, ON A BROADER SPECTRUM, IT DOESN'T HAVE THET.
WE WOULD LIKE IT TO HAVE, TO YOUR POINT, PAUL, BUT AT LEAST FOR OUR LOCAL CANDIDATES, WE CAN, WE CAN ADDRESS IT AND HOPEFULLY THERE WILL BE SOME LEGISLATION FROM STATE WHICH WILL SUPERSEDE THIS.
BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, I THINK WE CAN IMPLEMENT SOMETHING ON OUR OWN SO I CAN MAKE THOSE CHANGES AND THEN FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF ETHICS FOR THEIR REVIEW AS WELL.
IF ANYONE HAS TAKES ANOTHER LOOK AT IT LATER, HAS FURTHER CHANGES, WHY, JUST GIVE US A COUPLE OF DAYS.
TOMORROW'S DOWN BOARD MEETING.
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THE NEXT TIME I TELL PEOPLE THAT I WENT TO HARVARD, IT WAS ASSO THAT'S IT UNTIL THE NEXT, RIGHT.
NOW WE HAVE A CONSTRUCTION CON, THE, UH, FOIL APPEAL.
I HAVE THAT IS SOMEONE ON ZOOM FOR THE APP APPELLANT? UH, DO YOU KNOW THE NAME KENNISON? YES.
IS JACQUELINE MICHELLE PART OF THIS AS WELL? YEAH.
JACQUELINE SHELL SHOULD BE ON THE LINE AS WELL IF YOU COULD LET HER IN.
THANK YOU FOR COMING ON, JACQUELINE.
THIS IS JOE DANKO TOWN ATTORNEY.
I, I UNDERSTOOD THAT YOU ASKED, UM, AN EMPLOYEE ABOUT THE PROCESS HERE.
SO THE TOWN BOARD HAS A POLICY TO NOT ONLY GO BASED ON THE RECORD, BUT TO ALLOW AN APPELLANT TO COME TO A, A PUBLIC SESSION, PUBLIC WORK SESSION AS WELL TO EXPLAIN ESSENTIALLY WHY THEY BELIEVE THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD MADE AN INCORRECT DETERMINATION DENYING THE INFORMATION REQUEST.
SO WE, WE, WE RECEIVED YOUR NOTICE ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO, I BELIEVE IF YOU'VE, IF YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN, UM, WHY YOU BELIEVE THE TOWN WAS INCORRECT AND ITS INITIAL DECISION, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR TO TO DO SO.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE EXPLANATION AND THE OPPORTUNITY.
UM, I AM THE LOCAL COUNSEL ON THIS CASE.
I'M A RESIDENT IN BAR IN NEW YORK STATE.
MY COLLEAGUE KENON LE IS AN ARIZONA ATTORNEY AND HAS BEEN REALLY THE, THE PRIMARY POINT OF CONTACT.
UM, IF IT'S ALL RIGHT WITH YOU, I'D, I'D LIKE FOR HER TO SPEAK ON OUR BEHALF, BUT I JUST WANTED TO FLAG, SINCE SHE IS AN OUT-OF-STATE LAWYER, MAKE SURE THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE.
UM, LIKE JACQUELINE SAID, MY NAME'S KENNISON LAY.
I AM AN ATTORNEY AT BALLARD SPAR AND WE REPRESENT THE CONSTRUCTION MONITOR AND IT'S EMPLOYEES WHO SUBMITTED THE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST THAT IS SUBJECT TO THIS APPEAL.
UM, I WILL BE BRIEF SINCE WE LAID OUT OUR POSITION IN OUR LETTER, BUT I DID WANNA TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO JUST BRIEFLY EXPLAIN TO YOU ALL WHERE MY CLIENT IS COMING FROM, WHY THEY'VE REQUESTED THESE RECORDS, UM, AND WHY WE BELIEVE THAT THEY SHOULD BE DISCLOSED.
SO CONSTRUCTION MONITOR IS A TRADE PUBLICATION THAT IS READ BY MEMBERS OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CONSTRUCTION MONITOR DOES IS PUBLISH A WEEKLY REPORT ON WHERE CONSTRUCTION IS GOING ON THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY.
AND THIS DATA IS USED BY PROFESSIONALS WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY TO GENERALLY MEET THE NEEDS OF THEIR CUSTOMERS.
UM, AND SO IN ORDER TO COMPILE THESE REPORTS, CONSTRUCTION MONITOR ROUTINELY SUBMITS FREEDOM, UH, PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS TO CITIES AND TOWNS THROUGHOUT NEW YORK AND ALSO THROUGHOUT DIFFERENT STATES, UM, ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND CITIES AND TOWNS ROUTINELY PROVIDE THIS BUILDING PERMIT INFORMATION TO CONSTRUCTION MONITOR THAT HAD DONE PUBLISHES IN THOSE REPORTS.
UM, SO AS A MATTER OF COURSE, UM, AS PART OF THIS WORK CONSTRUCTION SUBMITTED A REQUEST ON MARCH 24TH OF THIS YEAR FOR BUILDING PERMIT INFORMATION BETWEEN JANUARY 1ST AND FEBRUARY 28TH OF THIS YEAR.
AND THE REQUESTS SOUGHT, UM, DATA RELATED TO THOSE PERMITS THROUGHOUT THAT PERIOD, INCLUDING THE ISSUE DATES OF THOSE PERMITS, THE ADDRESSES, THE CONTRACTOR AND OWNER INFORMATION PROJECT VALUATION, UM, AND OTHER RELEVANT DATA THAT IT WOULD USE TO, UH, DISCLOSE TO ITS READERS.
AND THEN ON MARCH 27TH, A COUPLE DAYS AFTER THAT REQUEST WAS SUBMITTED, THE CITY DENIED IT, UM, DIRECTLY ON THE REQUEST FORM, JUST SORT OF CHECKING THE BOX, INDICATING THAT IT WAS DENIED FOR UNWARRANTED DISCLOSURE OF PERSONAL PRIVACY.
UM, AND THEN THERE WAS A HANDWRITTEN CITATION TO NEW YORK PUBLIC OFFICER'S LAW SECTION 89 2 B THREE.
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AGENCIES TO DENY REQUESTS FOR THE RELEASE OF NAMES AND ADDRESSES IF SUCH LISTS WOULD BE USED FOR SOLICITATION PURPOSES.AND AS WE EXPLAINED IN OUR ADMINISTRATIVE APPEAL LETTER, THIS EXCEPTION DOES NOT APPLY HERE BECAUSE CONSTRUCTION MONITOR DOES NOT USE THIS INFORMATION FOR SOLICITATION PURPOSES.
IT PUBLISHES THEM IN THIS INDUSTRY REPORT, AND THEN PROFESSIONALS WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY USE THIS INFORMATION TO SERVICE THEIR CLIENTS.
UM, AND SO I GAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF SORT OF SPECIFIC NON-SOLICITATION USES IN MY LETTER.
UM, BUT GENERALLY THIS STATUTE DOES NOT APPLY AND SO THE REQUESTED RECORDS SHOULD BE PRODUCED.
UM, ALTERNATIVELY, CONSTRUCTION MONITOR IS ALSO WILLING TO ACCEPT COPIES OF THE PERMITS THEMSELVES THROUGHOUT, UM, FROM THE REQUEST PERIOD IF, UM, THAT WOULD BE ALSO BE ACCEPTABLE.
UM, AND THERE IS, UM, A SPECIFIC SECTION OF FOIL THAT SAYS THAT THE PERMITS OF THEMSELVES ARE NOT SUBJECT TO ANY SORT OF PERSONAL PRIVACY EXCEPTIONS.
UM, SO THAT IS ANOTHER WAY THAT THE TOWN COULD, UH, COMPLY WITH THE REQUEST.
WITH THAT, UH, I'LL THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SO OUR, OUR DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR HAD NOTED THAT WHEN YOU GO TO CONSTRUCTION MONITOR.COM, UM, RIGHT ON THE FIRST PAGE IT SAYS CONSTRUCTION MONITOR IS THE TOP SOURCE FOR TIMELY, ACCURATE, AND COMPLETE BUILDING AND SOLAR PERMIT INFORMATION IN THE UNITED STATES, OUR CONSTRUCTION LEADS INCLUDE KEY PROJECT DATA TO HELP SUPPLIERS, SUBCONTRACTORS, BUILDING PROFESSIONALS AND GENERAL CONTRACTORS TO BETTER TARGET AND REACH NEW CUSTOMERS.
THEY ALSO POINT, SHE ALSO POINTED TO TESTIMONIALS INCLUDED ON THE CONSTRUCTION MONITOR WEBSITE THAT SAY SUCH THINGS AS OUR BUSINESS' SUCCESS RELIES ON OUR ABILITY TO ANALYZE MARKET AND CONSUMER DATA EFFECTIVELY AND EFFICIENTLY.
AND, UH, SOMEONE WROTE IN THAT IT WAS A GREAT TOOL WITH OUR SALES DEPARTMENT.
SOMEONE WROTE THAT THEY FOLLOWED UP ON LEADS LEADS WITHOUT HAVING TO EXPEND ALL THE TIME AND ENERGY REQUIRED TO GET THE ACCESS TO THE BUILDING PERMITS IN OUR AREA.
SOMEONE ELSE COMMENTED, WE GET CUSTOM WORK FROM YOUR LEADS.
ANOTHER PERSON WROTE, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING ALL THE NEW JOBS THAT I COULD PURSUE.
THIS REPORT IS A GREAT RESOURCE FOR SUBCONTRACT CONTRACTORS THAT ARE RESEARCHING FOR MORE WORK.
AND THERE IS A SECTION OF THE PUBLIC OFFICER'S LAW THAT STATES THAT AN AGENCY MAY REQUIRE A PERSON REQUESTING LISTS OF NAMES AND ADDRESSES TO PROVIDE A WRITTEN CERTIFICATION THAT SUCH PERSON WILL NOT USE SUCH LISTS OF NAMES AND ADDRESSES FOR SOLICITATION OR FUNDRAISING PURPOSES AND WILL NOT SELL, GIVE, OR OTHERWISE MAKE AVAILABLE SUCH LISTS OF NAMES AND ADDRESSES TO ANY OTHER PERSON FOR THE PURPOSE OF USING FOR SOLICITATION FUNDRAISING PURPOSES.
SO I BELIEVE IT WAS THE CONTENTION THAT OF THE DE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR THAT WHILE CONSTRUCTION MONITOR MAY NOT BE USING IT FOR SOLICITATION PURPOSES, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RELYING ON THIS LIST ARE USING IT FOR SOLICITATION PURPOSES.
UH, ANOTHER ANOTHER QUOTE THAT, UH, WASN'T MENTIONED OR I MISSED IT WAS WE FOUND OUR SUBSCRIPTION TO BE A GREAT TOOL WITH OUR SALES DEPARTMENT IS DO, IS THERE A SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE THAT'S PROVIDED BY CONSTRUCTION MANAGER? UM, YEAH, I BELIEVE SO.
SO LIKE, UM, LIKE ANY PUBLICATION, PEOPLE CAN, CAN SUBSCRIBE TO IT.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT GENERALLY MOST SUBSCRIBERS ARE WITHIN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, SORT OF USING THIS INFORMATION, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S, IT'S MOST OFTEN USED BY PEOPLE WITHIN THE INDUSTRY TO, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR UTILITY COMPANIES TO SORT OF IDENTIFY WHERE TO LAY DOWN, UM, TO PLAN NEW INFRASTRUCTURE FOR SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO DETERMINE WHERE A GOOD LOCATION MIGHT BE TO START BUILDING NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS, JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOLS, ET CETERA.
UM, FOR AIR QUALITY AGENCIES TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S BEING BUILT AND WHAT YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT NEED TO DO IN RESPONSE TO THAT.
UM, I WILL NOTE THAT WHEN CONSTRUCTION MONITORS SUBMITTED THIS REQUEST, UM, IT WAS DENIED WITHOUT SORT OF ANY REACHING OUT FROM THE TOWN DIRECTLY TO CONSTRUCTION MONITOR.
UM, AND WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO SUBMIT A CERTIFICATION ABOUT CONSTRUCTION MONITORS, UM, NON-SOLICITATION USE IF IF THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO, TO THE TOWN'S DECISION.
WELL I I THINK AS, AS THE ATTORNEY MENTIONED, IT WASN'T THE CONCERN THAT CONSTRUCTION
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MONITOR WAS USING THE INFORMATION, BUT THE SUBSCRIBERS WERE RIGHT.I I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE ENTIRE WEBSITE AS A SOLICITATION FOR SUBSCRIBERS WHO THEN PAY TO GET THE DATA RIGHT, UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE, I THINK FOIL IS GENERALLY CONCERNED WITH, WITH WHAT THE REQUESTER IS INTENDING TO DO WITH THE INFORMATION.
AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT CONTROL WHAT EVERY SINGLE SUBSCRIBER IS IS GOING TO DO WITH THE INFORMATION THAT IS PROVIDED.
UM, JUST LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY SEEKS RECORDS THEY CAN'T CONTROL WHO MIGHT ACCESS THEIR EMAIL AND, AND SORT OF DO SOMETHING ELSE WITH THE RECORDS THAT THE ORIGINAL REQUESTER NEVER INTENDED OR, OR FORCE FORESAW WOULD HAPPEN.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION MONITOR'S PURPOSE AND IT'S GENERAL CLIENTELE I UNDERSTAND ARE, ARE USING IT FOR LEGITIMATE NON-SOLICITATION PURPOSES.
UM, BUT OF COURSE WE, WE CANNOT CONTROL WHAT WHAT THIRD PARTIES DO WITH THE INFORMATION.
UH, UH, I I I, MAYBE I DIDN'T MAKE MYSELF CLEAR.
IT, IT LOOKS, YOU, YOU SAY WE MIGHT NOT KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO SUBSCRIBE TO CONSTRUCTION MANAGER MONITOR IS GOING TO DO WITH THE DATA, BUT WE DO KNOW WHAT CONSTRUCTION MANAGER IS GOING TO DO WITH THE DATA.
THEY'RE GOING TO USE IT TO GET SUBSCRIBERS AT A COST.
UM, NO, IT'S CLEAR FROM THE WEBSITE COMMENTS HOW IT'S BEING USED.
SO IT'S A, TO ME IT'S DISINGENIOUS TO SAY THAT, THAT YOU DON'T, THAT THAT CONSTRUCTION MONITORING DOESN'T KNOW AND ISN'T RESPONSIBLE.
IT'S AN INVITATION IN EFFECT TO ME.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY THEN? THEN WE'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH OUR ATTORNEY AND THEN WE'LL RENDER AN OPINION.
UM, JUST TO BE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR ON, ON ONE THING, IN CASE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A MISCOMMUNICATION CONSTRUCTION MONITOR ISN'T USING THIS DATA TO LIKE AFFIRMATIVELY IDENTIFY NEW, UM, SUBSCRIBERS OR ANY LIKE IN THAT SENSE OF SOLICITATION.
UM, IF THAT WAS NOT CLEAR, THEY'RE JUST USING THE PERMIT DATA TO, THEY PUBLISH IT IN IN THEIR PERIODICALS.
WE LIKE TO GIVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PEOPLE THAT FILE AN APPEAL.
AND NOW WE HAVE AGENDA REVIEW, WHICH NEEDS TO BE ADDED.
UM, I JUST, JUST YOU LIKE THAT THROW BEFORE WE, WE DO THAT? JUST, I JUST GOTTA POP UP, UM, APROPOS OF OUR CONVERSATION THAT GEORGE SANTOS IS CHARGED BY FEDERAL PROSECUTORS IN NEW YORK.
EVERYONE READ THEIR HEADLINES.
VICE YOUR, UH, HIGH INTENSITY ACTIVITY CROSSWALK LIGHT.
IT WOULD BE THE SAME PRESENTATION AS NO, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BIT CLEARER.
THE OTHER ONE WAS PUT TOGETHER RATHER QUICK, BUT IT'S, BUT IT'LL BE, IT'LL BE SHORT.
BUT IF THERE'S ANYTI ANY TIME TO ACTUALLY DO IT, IT'S, IT'S TODAY.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S ACTIVE ON FRIDAY.
SO THAT'S A BIG SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.
IT REALLY IS BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE BALL DOUBTS, THE, UM, WHICH SHORTENS THE DISTANCE ACROSS THE ROAD, TRYING TO CROSS THAT ROAD WITHOUT THAT LIGHT WORKING IS, YOU KNOW, IS NOT, IS NOT, WHICH IS ANOTHER POINT TO BE MADE IS IT NOW IS A SIGNALED INTERSECTION.
YOU STAND OUT IN THE ROAD, CARS ARE NOT REQUIRED TO STOP BECAUSE
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IT'S A SIGNALED INTERCESSION.YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING,
UM, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DOING WORK ON THAT.
UM, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS BIKING, UM, IT WAS SO EASY TO CROSS THE PARKWAY AND I JUST SORT OF FEEL, UH, SO STRONGLY THAT WE REALLY NEED A CROSSWALK.
YOU KNOW, THERE IN, ON OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD IN THE BRONXVILLE PARKWAY, IT IS SO DANGEROUS.
AND, UH, LAST WEEK I, UH, WENT IN FISHER FISHER, UM, AN EDGE PARK AND THAT HILL WAS LIKE THE WORST HILL I EVER SPIKED UP IN MY LIFE.
YOU KNOW? UM, I MEAN IT'S SO STEEP AND, UM, AND THE OLD TAR TOWN ROAD IS MUCH EASIER.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT WE REALLY NEED WOULD BE A SIDEWALK FROM DUAL, UM, TO THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY, UH, AND THEN A CROSSWALK THERE.
UM, AND YOU, YOU HAVE WINDOW OVER WOODS.
YOU HAVE ANOTHER CONDO THERE, YOU HAVE A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, WELCOME THERE.
I BELIEVE THAT, UM, MAX MAXIM MILLION FROM THE COUNTY, UH, RESPONDED ON BEHALF OF THE D P W, UM, WITH REGARD TO THAT IF, BUT THEIR INFORMATION WAS TOTALLY WRONG BECAUSE, UM, THEY SAID THAT THEY CAN'T PUT A SIDEWALK BECAUSE THERE'S, THEY CAN'T PUT A CROSSWALK THERE BECAUSE THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.
SO THEN I BIKED ON, UH, THE NEXT ONE GOING NORTH, THAT'S THE ONE TO EDGE PARK ROAD.
AND THE SIDEWALK WAS BASICALLY FROM LIKE HERE TO, UH, THE WINDOW.
IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN A SIDEWALK.
IT'S BASICALLY JUST, UH, SO WE COULD, BUT NOT A SIDEWALK.
SO WE COULD CONVEY IT BECAUSE, AND THAT, THAT'S WHY I DID IT BECAUSE I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS A SIDEWALK ON, YOU KNOW, EDGE, YOU KNOW, GOING UP EDGE PARK, UM, NOT EDGE PARK.
IT'S WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE ROAD ACROSS FROM FISHER? YOU'RE GOING ON THE PARK, RIGHT? WITH FISHER AVENUE? MM-HMM.
UM, SO I WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS A SIDEWALK THERE AND THERE WAS NOTHING.
UM, BUT I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF AFTER THEY FINISHED THE CEMETERY ROAD, MAYBE WE COULD ORGANIZE A MEETING WITH, YOU KNOW, MEETING ON SITE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH JEWEL WILLIAMS AND THE TOWN.
AND MAYBE WE COULD WORK OUT SOMETHING WHERE THE TOWN WOULD COMMIT TO BUILDING A SIDEWALK AT IF, YOU KNOW, IF THE COUNTY WOULD COMMIT TO THE CROSSWALK.
AND EVEN YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS BIKING, THERE WERE PEOPLE CROSSING THE STREET, THE PARKWAY.
IT'S NOT ONLY ME, IT'S, YOU KNOW, OTHER PEOPLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, EVEN ON FACEBOOK POSTS, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN POSTING IT ALL OVER, UH, PEOPLE HAVE NOTES, THEY REALLY NEED IT, YOU KNOW, SO I I KNOW THIS IS, IT'S, IT'S AS IMPORTANT AS THE SACRED HEART AND YOU KNOW, I I SORT OF FEEL WITH SACRED HEART, WE REACTED AFTER IT WAS JUST AN, UH, ACCIDENT, OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD, WE WERE ALL UNNOTICED THAT IT'S DANGEROUS.
SO THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT RIGHT AT THAT LOCATION.
SO FAR THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY A ACCIDENTS, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN OKAY, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THAT, UH, YOU SAID ONCE THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT, BUT IT WASN'T AT THAT LOCATION.
I'M, I'M FISHER SURE THEY HAVE SOMEBODY DIED CROSSING PARKWAY.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BOTH INTERSECTIONS, OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD IN THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY AND FISHER AVENUE IN THE
YEAH, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE THE SIDEWALK, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW IF VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE GONNA WALK UP THAT BIG HILL.
THE OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD, UH, IS IS EASIER TO WALK.
SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT MAYBE WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WORK ON THAT BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW, I, I SORT OF FEEL THE WHOLE TOWN BOARD SHOULD BE PROUD OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE REALLY MAKING THE AREA SAFER.
AND, YOU KNOW, OVER LIKE THE PAST 10 YEARS, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ALL OVER AND WE'RE DOING THINGS LITTLE BY LITTLE BY LITTLE, BUT WE, THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN PROGRESS.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THE OLD TAR TOWN ROAD, EVEN NEAR MOHAWK, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT SECTION, THE ONE CLOSER TO THE PARKWAY, THESE ARE AREAS THAT PEOPLE WOULD WANNA WALK, YOU KNOW, ACROSS TO THE, TO THE PATH.
THE PATH IS ALSO AN ATTRACTIVE NUISANCE AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO CROSS THE PARKWAY TO GET ON THE BRONXVILLE PARKWAY BY YEAH.
BUT, UM, OH, THAT CERTAINLY MAKES SENSE.
UM, OKAY, LET'S, THE LEAD FLOW LAW, THE SUGGESTION THAT I HAVE, UM, BASED ON THE COMMENTS THAT YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOTTEN IS IF WE WANNA DO A TWO MONTH, UH, YOU KNOW, BAN
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THAT THERE SHOULD BE A DAILY LIKE EXEMPTION.IT COULD BE
SO IT WOULD JUST, AND, AND YOU KNOW, IF WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT, 80% OF THE DAY THEY'D BE QUIET.
SO IT STILL WOULD BE A BIG IMPROVEMENT AND THEN WE COULD TEST IT OUT.
UH, WHAT I, WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID WHEN PAUL, UH, RECOMMENDED THIS WAS, UH, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT, DON'T DO IT IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN PEOPLE ARE HAVING PICNICS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT TO DO IT EARLY IN THE MORNING.
SO THAT'S WHERE 10 12 CAME FROM, BUT WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING TOMORROW, SO WHY DON'T WE JUST HEAR FROM IT.
AND SEE WHAT THE PEOPLE SAY AS PART OF THE
AND THERESA MAORI, THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL CHAIRPERSON CONFIRMED THAT SHE WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE TOMORROW AND SHE WILL PRESENT THE LAW AS WELL.
SO THAT'S, WE CAN ADDRESS THAT ISSUE WITH OUR TOMORROW'S MEETING.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR JOAN TO COME BACK.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO, ARE ARE WE DONE WITH THE AGENDA AGAIN? I THINK SO, YEAH.
UM, I JUST WANT TO WONDER, JOE, IF YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE.
UH, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL WITH REGARD TO THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITIES PROJECT ON MANHATTAN AVENUE THAT THE COUNTY HAD REJECTED OUR, UH, AFFIRMATION OF THE SEWER PLANS, UH, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T INCLUDE A SIGNATURE ON THE ACTUAL PLANS THEMSELVES.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I KNOW, UH, RICH FAWN, UH, INDICATED THAT WE HAD RESOLVED THAT ISSUE, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ISSUE WAS RESOLVED AND THAT THE REST OF THE TOWN BOARD WAS AWARE HOW THE ISSUE HAD BEEN RESOLVED.
SO OUR ENGINEER, JASON FOUND OUT ON, I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE IT WAS YESTERDAY MORNING, THAT THE COUNTY NO LONGER WANTED TO, UH, RECEIVE THE LETTER FROM JASON, BUT THEY ACTUALLY WANTED HIS SIGNATURE ON THE PLANS.
SO JASON IMMEDIATELY REQUESTED A SET OF THE PLANS, WHICH WILL BE PROVIDED.
WE'RE HOPING TO RECEIVE IT TOMORROW.
AND THE LANGUAGE THAT JASON IS ATTESTING TO IS THAT THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING HAS NO JURISDICTION OVER THE PRIVATE SANITARY SERVICE LINES AND DOES NOT ACCEPT ANY RISK RELIABILITY REGARDING THE PRIVATE SANITARY SERVICE LINES INSTALLED.
MANHATTAN AVENUE SENIOR L L C, IT TEARS AND THE ASSIGNS ARE SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR, FOR PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE OF THE PRIVATE SANITARY SERVICE LINES.
SO WE, IT'S THE SAME BASICALLY SET LANGUAGE THAT WE HAD PROPOSED IN A LETTER ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
WELL, YOU MAKE A BOX OF THAT AND THEN THAT'S WHAT HE SIGNS.
SO I I I'M NOT SURE IF HE WAS PLANNING ON PUTTING A BOX, BUT I WILL SUGGEST THAT TO HIM.
BUT YES, HE, HE WAS PLANNING ON WRITING THAT AND SIGNING IT.
THAT IS WHAT WE HAD SENT OVER A MONTH AGO.
SO IT SHOULD BE FULLY RESOLVED TOMORROW.
SO I JUST WANNA POINT THAT IT'S NOT A NO DELAY ON THE TOWN'S PART.
SO HE'S GONNA WRITE THAT ON THE PLANS AND THEN SIGN THEM, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
AND DO WE KNOW THAT THE COUNTY WILL ACCEPT THAT? I BELIEVE SO BASED ON THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE THAT WENT BACK AND FORTH BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T COME BACK TO US AND SAY, WE DON'T AGREE WITH YOUR LANGUAGE.
WE JUST NEED YOU TO PUT THE LANGUAGE ON THE SET OF PLANS.
BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT'D BE MISLEADING IF HE THEN STAMPS THE PLAN.
IT'S GONNA FEEL LIKE HE APPROVES THE ENTIRE PLAN THAT LANGUAGE IS GOING ON THE PLAN.
AND THAT'LL BE DONE TOMORROW AS LONG AS WE RECEIVED THOSE PLANS VIA WE WERE TOLD THEY WERE SENT OVERNIGHT.
SO I'M ASSUMING IT WILL ACTUALLY BE DELIVERED TOMORROW AND JASON KNOWS TO ACT ON IT IMMEDIATELY, WHICH HE'S DONE, AND WE'LL TURN THEM AROUND AND OVERNIGHT THEM AGAIN OR EMAIL THEM OR, THAT'S CORRECT.
AND THERE WE HAVE, SO THE COUNTY THAT CHANGED THE REQUIREMENTS, I I, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALSO CHANGING WHAT THEY'RE WRITING AS WELL.
I I THINK THEY MIGHT UM, NOT BE SIGNING TO THE ENTIRE PLANS AS WELL AT THIS POINT.
ONLY THE PART OF THE PLANS THAT THEY NEED TO SIGN.
I THINK THEY SAW WHAT JASON HAD DECIDED FOR THE TOWN WITH THE TOWN BOARD'S GUIDANCE AND THAT THEY MAY BE DOING THE SAME.
DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, PAUL, YOU MOVE TO GO IN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR WHAT? PURPOSE.
PURPOSE DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS AND CONTRACTUAL ISSUES
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AND INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE.WE'RE GOING SESSION WILL NOT BE COMING BACK.