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DO YOU HAVE ONE OF THESE, PAUL? YEAH, I CAN.
WELCOME TO TARA, OUR TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION.
IT'S, UM, FIVE 19 AND IT'S MAY 20, UH, THIRD.
AND THE FIRST, UM, ISSUE IS, UM, THE LEAF BLOWER LAW.
UM, LAST WEEK WE APPROVED, UM, UH, A NOISE ORDINANCE AND PARTIAL LEAF BLOWER LAWYER RELATING TO, UH, MULTIPLE USES OF LEAF BLOWERS.
TOMORROW WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING ON, UM, UM, UH, UH, TWO MONTH SUMMER BAND.
AND, UM, I WANTED TO, UM, ASK THE CHIEF, UH, TO GIVE US, UM, HIS THOUGHTS ON ENFORCEMENT AND ALSO ON EDUCATION BECAUSE I FEEL THAT IF WE HAVE A LAW, WE SHOULD EITHER HAVE THE LAW AND ENFORCE IT OR NOT HAVE A LAW OR HAVE A MODIFIED LAW.
SO, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, CHIEF, BEFORE YOU START, AND, AND THIS IS ENFORCEMENT ON THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WHICH THE BOARD ALREADY APPROVED.
RIGHT? AND, AND NOT, I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS YOUR THOUGHTS ON BOTH, BECAUSE ONE IS, YOU KNOW, WE'D HAVE ONE LAW ON THE BOOKS, AND ALSO WE HAVE ONE LAW THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING.
AND BEFORE WE VOTE, WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE CHIEF AS TO, YOU KNOW, WELL, CAN, CAN IF HE'S PREPARED TO DISCUSS BOTH TODAY.
WHAT DID, WHAT DID YOU WANNA SAY, JOE? I, I JUST, I'M NOT SURE IF YOU WERE PREPARED TO DISCUSS BOTH TODAY.
I KNOW WE HAD REVIEWED THE LAW THAT WAS PASSED RECENTLY, AND ONCE IT'S FINALIZED WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE BECOMES OFFICIAL AND WE CAN ENFORCE.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA GET A SENSE.
JUST, UM, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, LEMME YOU JUST PULL THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE BIT CLOSER TO YOU.
I WANNA JUST DOUBLE CHECK SOMETHING BEFORE I START TALKING.
WE CHANGED THE DECIBEL LEVEL TO 75 AND WE SAID YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN ONE, MORE THAN THREE, ONE MORE THAN ONE ON, UH, 10,000 SQUARE FEET OR LESS.
NO MORE THAN FOUR ON ANY ROCK.
BUT THE, THE, THAT'S THE ENTIRE LAW.
SO THE, YOU JUST TURNED IT OFF.
SO THE DISTINCTION IS ESSENTIALLY THE SIMULTANEOUS OPERATION OF MORE THAN ONE ON A PROPERTY OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET, OR A OPERATION OF FOUR OR MORE.
THAT'S THE DISTINCTION FROM THE OLD AND THE NEW, CORRECT? NO, THAT'S THE, THAT IS THE ONE THAT WAS PASSED.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONE THAT WILL BE IN EFFECT ONCE IT'S FILED WITH SECRETARY OF STATE.
AND THAT YOU CAN ENFORCE ALL THAT WORDING RIGHT THERE.
THAT'S ALL INCLUDED IN THAT PROPOSED LAW, WHICH IS A SEPARATE LAW, IS A TOTAL BAN FROM JUNE 15TH TO AUGUST 15TH OR AUGUST 19TH.
I FORGET THE EXACT DATE ON ALL BLOWERS, BUT THAT HAS NOT, THE HEARING IS STILL REMAINS OPEN AND IT'S BEING DISCUSSED AGAIN TOMORROW NIGHT.
BUT ALL THAT TEXT YOU HAVE RIGHT THERE HAS BEEN PASSED.
SO MY, I'M, I'M, I'M GOOD ENOUGH WITH IT NOW.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A PROCESS.
I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN HEARING PEOPLE OUT, GROUPS OUT, YOU KNOW, FOR WEEKS ON END, OBVIOUSLY MY RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENFORCE WHAT'S IN THE TOWN CODE.
UM, GOOD EVENING IN TERMS OF THE TOTAL BAN, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE EXTREME THAN THE CHANGES YOU WERE ALREADY MAKING, YOU KNOW.
BUT WHETHER IT'S APPROPRIATE OR NOT FOR ME TO ADD MY 2 CENTS AT THIS TIME IN REGARDS TO THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOMETIMES WE'RE BETTER OFF MAKING LIMITED CHANGES AND SEEING HOW THOSE THINGS GO VERSUS MAKING MORE EXTREME CHANGES AND HOPING THEY GO WELL.
UM, IN THE END, WHAT I WAS REALLY PREPARED TO SAY, BUT OBVIOUSLY I'M OPEN TO, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING YOU WANT TO DISCUSS OR WANT ME TO EXPLAIN.
I HAVE SOMETHING WRITTEN, BUT I'M GONNA PARAPHRASE IT.
MY PLAN FOR ENFORCEMENT OF THE CH THE NEW TOWN CODE AND, YOU KNOW, ANY FURTHER CHANGES TO THE TOWN CODE THAT MAY BE MADE IN REGARDS TO THREE 80 DASH SEVEN IS SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, IN, IN TERMS OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND HOW WE'RE FUNCTIONING RIGHT NOW WITH A LOT OF THINGS, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ARE INTENTIONALLY BEING REACTIVE.
WE'RE BEING PROTECTORS, WE'RE BEING GUARDIANS.
WE'RE NOT SO MUCH BEING ENFORCERS, ALTHOUGH THERE IS NEED FOR AN ENFORCEMENT.
ENFORCEMENT WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN THINGS.
I DON'T ENVISION MY OFFICERS DRIVING AROUND LOOKING FOR PEOPLE WITH LEAF BLOWERS, CALLING FOR THE DECTER, AND, YOU KNOW, TAKING PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT ACTION WHEN NO ONE'S COMPLAINING AND PEOPLE ARE JUST CLEANING UP THEIR YARDS.
I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S WHAT OUR RESIDENTS WANT FROM US.
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AT THE SAME TIME, WHEN WE GET COMPLAINTS, WHICH WE WILL GET, AND YOU KNOW, I'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION WITH PEOPLE, YOU HAVE PEOPLE, THEIR NEIGHBORS, SOME PEOPLE HIRE SOMEONE, SOME PEOPLE DO IT THEMSELVES.MAYBE SOMEONE THEY WORK AT A HOSPITAL, THEY WORK, THEY'RE A FIRE FIREFIGHTER, WHATEVER THEY DO, THEY DON'T GET OFF WORK TILL MIDNIGHT.
YOU KNOW WHAT, THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR EVERY SATURDAY, 9:00 AM THEY START UP THE MOWER.
A LOT OF TIMES A LOT OF PEOPLE, THERE'S SIMPLY A CONVERSATION, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR? I DON'T GET OFF WORK TILL MIDNIGHT.
TRY AS I MIGHT, I DON'T FALL ASLEEP BEFORE TWO, AND YOU'RE OUT HERE WITH THE LAWNMOWER AS SOON AS THE SUN COMES UP.
YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN PEOPLE WORK IT OUT, THEY DON'T CALL THE POLICE, BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S NEIGHBORS THAT DON'T GET ALONG, THEY CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT.
WELL, THIS IS THE TIME THAT WORKS FOR ME.
I HAVE TO BEFORE I GO TO WORK, WHATEVER THE EXCUSE MAY BE.
BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE WILL RESPOND AS NEEDED.
THERE'S ALREADY A PROCEDURE ON THE BOOKS FOR US IN REGARDS TO WHEN WE GET NOISE COMPLAINTS AND WHEN WE GET NOISE COMPLAINTS RELATED TO, TO YARD EQUIPMENT.
SO IN, AND AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF REVISING OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS.
THERE ARE A FEW THINGS IN THE PROCEDURE THAT COULD STAND TO BE TWEAKED.
UPDATED, BUT WHAT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO DO, FOR THE MOST PART IS STICK TO THE PROCEDURE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
THERE'S GUIDELINES THAT ARE CLEAR FOR THE OFFICER WHERE THEY CAN STAND, WHERE THEY SHOULD TAKE THE READINGS FROM, ACTIONS THAT THEY SHOULD TAKE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND HOW THEY GO ABOUT ACTUALLY ISSUING WITH SUMMONS, FILLING OUT THE SUPPORTING DEPOSITION, COMPLETING A POLICE REPORT, AND DOING ALL THE PAPERWORK THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THE COURT TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SEE THE ADMINISTRATION OF JUSTICE IF IT'S NECESSARY.
UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS WHEN WE REALLY START, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE START CALLING FOR THIS AND WE START RESPONDING AND INVESTIGATING, UM, THE COMMAND STAFF AND I, WE'VE DISCUSSED HAVING SOME KIND OF WARNING CARD, PERHAPS MAKING IT BILINGUAL, PERHAPS PUTTING SOME KIND OF QR CODE ON IT THAT WILL GO TO WHERE THE TOWN CODE IS ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE.
BUT ESSENTIALLY JUST TO INFORM PEOPLE, TELL PEOPLE WARNING, HEY, LOOK, THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE LAW.
YOU KNOW WHAT MAN UPON INVESTIGATION, YES, YOU ARE TECHNICALLY IN VIOLATION.
THEY CAN GIVE THEM A WARNING CARD.
THERE'S A WAY TO ACTUALLY WHERE WE CAN KEEP TRACK IF WE'VE BEEN TO THE SAME RESIDENCE FOR THE SAME TYPE OF CALL MULTIPLE TIMES, AND IF WE GET REPEAT CALLS FOR THE SAME PEOPLE PERSON, WHETHER IT'S A HOMEOWNER LANDSCAPER AT THE SAME RESIDENCE, THEN AS WE RETURN, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE ACTION.
THERE'S ALSO WAYS WHERE IF WE ISSUE A WARNING FIRST, IF THERE'S ANY QUESTION OVER THE SIZE OF THE PARCEL OF LAND, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE'S A WAY TO ACTUALLY CHECK HOW BIG THE YARD IS AND IF THAT AFFECTS WHETHER A SUMMONS IS APPROPRIATE OR WHAT TYPE OF SUMMONS APPROPRIATE, IT GIVES US A CHANCE TO GET THAT IN ORDER SO WHEN THE OFFICER GOES BACK, IT CAN THEN BE DONE PROPERLY.
UH, THE BIG THING FOR ME THOUGH, THE PLAN IS TO, YOU KNOW, TREAT THIS AS SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH WHEN WE RECEIVE CALLS FOR SERVICE, NOT TO GO OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GONNA DO PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS GOING ON THAT I THINK THE RESIDENTS WOULD BENEFIT FROM US CONCENTRATING ON OUTSIDE OF THE LEAF BLOWERS.
CAN I JUST ASK, UH, BASICALLY TWO QUESTIONS.
WOULD WE BE ABLE TO PUT UP LIKE DIGITAL, UM, USE DIGITAL BOARDS? I THINK SCARSDALE DID IT LAST YEAR WHERE WE COULD JUST SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, NEW LAW, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE ONE SENTENCE, PLEASE COMPLY OR CALL THE POLICE IF, UH, THE NOISE LEVELS ARE EXCESSIVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOMETHING WHERE, UM, WE COULD PUT THEM AROUND THE TOWN JUST, YOU KNOW, WHILE YOU'RE, WHILE YOU'RE THERE JUST TO, OKAY.
AGAIN, MY OPINIONS, THERE'S A PART OF ME WHERE THERE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WILL CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEIR NEIGHBORS MAKING NOISE WHILE CLEANING THEIR YARD.
AND THE PEOPLE THAT WILL NEVER CALL US MM-HMM.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE, YOU KNOW, NEW TOWN ORDINANCE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SEE TOWN WEBSITES, SLOW DOWN, SLOW DOWN, SLOW DOWN, ASK, YOU KNOW, SEATOWN WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY MAKING PEOPLE AWARE IS NEVER A BAD IDEA.
UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF, UH, IF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S MAKING NOISE, CALL THE POLICE.
I AM MORE A FAN OF IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE NOISE THAT YOUR NEIGHBOR'S MAKING, TRY TO TALK TO YOUR NEIGHBOR.
UH, BUT IF YOU, IF YOU, IF THAT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, IF THAT DOESN'T GET YOU ANYWHERE AND YOU NEED US, OBVIOUSLY CALL US.
BUT THE ISSUE AS I SEE IT IS THE HEARING WE'RE HAVING TOMORROW IS AGAIN ON, YOU KNOW, OIL LEAF BLOWERS.
SO THE QUESTION IS, IF WE'RE GONNA SAY, OH, THERE'S A STATUTE SAYING THERE'S, YOU KNOW, NO LEAF BLOWERS FOR TWO MONTHS ARE ALLOWED AND WE'RE NOT REALLY GONNA BE ENFORCING IT, THEN WE MIGHT BE BETTER OFF DOING A MORE LIMITED,
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UM, ONE.'CAUSE I THINK THAT IF YOU HAD LIKE A LIMITED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE END FOR, YOU KNOW, SAY FOR THREE, LET'S SAY WE SAID SATURDAYS AND SUNDAYS, EVERYBODY GETS PEACE AND QUIET OR SATURDAY, SUNDAYS AND MONDAYS, THEN PEOPLE WHO ARE INTENT ON USING THE LEAF BLOWERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO WANT TO WORK WITH WITHIN THE LAW BECAUSE THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND JUST DO IT ON A THURSDAY OR ON A TUESDAY OR A WEDNESDAY.
UH, IF YOU SAY IT'S A TOTAL BAN AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IT'S PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE ENFORCED, THEN IT'S GONNA BE A JOKE AND NOBODY'S GONNA REALLY TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
AND THERE'S GONNA BE VERY LITTLE COMPLIANCE WITH IT.
AND THERE'S GONNA BE A FEW PEOPLE WHO ARE GONNA BE COMPLAINING ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBORS, BUT MOST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, ARE PROBABLY NOT EVEN GONNA BE AWARE OF THE LAW AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO THAT.
YOU SEE, LIKE, I WANT TO REALLY, I SORT OF FEEL IF WE PASS SOMETHING, I WANT TO SEE THAT WE'RE MAKING AT LEAST INCREMENTAL PROGRESS AND GIVE AND GETTING PEOPLE MORE PEACE AND QUIET.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, HALF THE PEOPLE ARE SO UPSET WITH THE NOISE AND HALF THE PEOPLE ARE UPSET THAT GOVERNMENT IS TELLING THEM WHAT TO DO.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE REALLY TWO LEGITIMATE ISSUES AND BOTH, BOTH GROUPS HAVE LEGITIMATE CONCERNS.
SIMPLY PUT, IF YOU WANT AS MUCH COMPLIANCE AS POSSIBLE, IT SHOULD BE AS REASONABLE AS POSSIBLE.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, THE BROADER YOU MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, OR THE MORE STRICT YOU MAKE IT, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU MAY HAVE ISSUES WITH COMPLIANCE.
I THINK, YOU KNOW WHAT, MAKING IT MORE STRINGENT SHOULD PROBABLY BE DONE GRADUALLY.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT I THINK, THAT'S MY 2 CENTS FROM THE STANDPOINT OF BEING CHIEF OF POLICE END THE DAY WHEN WE GET CALLS FOR SERVICE, WE WILL RESPOND, WE WILL INVESTIGATE.
YOU KNOW WHAT WE DO STILL HAVE DISCRETION.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, THERE COMES A POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'VE BEEN WARNED, YOU'VE RECEIVED MULTIPLE WARNINGS, WE'RE STILL GETTING COMPLAINTS.
SO DIDN'T WE DISCUSS GIVING SOMEONE ELSE ANOTHER DEPARTMENT, LIKE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, CODE ENFORCEMENT, THE ABILITY TO ANSWER THESE TYPES OF CALLS? ISN'T THAT PART OF THIS? THAT WAS A PREVIOUS DRAFT OF THE LAW.
AND THERE WAS PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, WERE JUST ADJOURNED AND WE DIDN'T ACT ON THEM.
THE NOISE ORDINANCE ISN'T ENFORCED SIMPLY BY THE POLICE AT THIS POINT.
YOU COULD ADD THAT INTO A FUTURE OF LAW, BUT I'M NOT SURE THEY HAVE EVEN DECIBEL READERS, OR I'M NOT SURE MM-HMM.
WE WOULD HAVE TO ASK THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR.
UM, I JUST WANNA POINT OUT THAT THE CHIEF AND I ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION ABOUT LAWS THAT ARE ON THE BOOKS, UPCOMING LAWS AND, AND HOW TO ENFORCE THEM AND IF THEY'RE ENFORCEABLE.
AND WHILE DRAFTING THE NOISE ORDINANCE, WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT WAS REASONABLE, THAT MADE A MINOR CHANGE TO WHAT WE ALREADY HAD.
AND THE REASON THAT WE ADDED THE SECTION ABOUT THE ONE BLOWER PER 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, AND THE NO MORE THAN FOUR BLOWERS OVERALL IS THAT ALSO IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ENFORCEABLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE TO GET THE DECIBEL READER OUT AND, AND GET THAT READING RIGHT THEN AND THERE AND THEN PROVE IT.
IT'S, IT'S AN EASIER WAY TO JUST SEE, OH, THERE'S FIVE BLOWERS ON THIS LOT, YOU'RE GETTING A TICKET, OR, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REPEAT OFFENDER.
WE KNOW THIS IS LESS THAN A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND YOU HAVE TWO BLOWERS ON THE LOT, SO YOU SHOULD RECEIVE A TICKET THEN TOO.
SO I JUST WANTED TO UPDATE THE BOARD THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY TALKING AND HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS ON EITHER SIDE, WE FEEL FREE TO DISCUSS WITH EACH OTHER HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
UH, SO WE HAVEN'T TRIED IT TO SEE, SEE HOW IT'S WORKING.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD TRY IT AND SEE HOW IT'S WORKING.
WELL THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WHILE I HAD ANY, ANYTHING ELSE WHILE WE'RE HERE WITH THE, THE CHIEF, ARE WE, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE MEETING ON THURSDAY.
UH, THE MANHATTAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY THAT'S 9, 9 30.
IS THAT OKAY WITH EVERYBODY? IF WE HAVE A QUORUM, WE NEED TO NOTICE IT.
I'M NOT SURE WHO'S, I'M GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT.
I MEAN, THE MAIN THING IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE CAN NOTICE.
IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE NOTICED.
SO I JUST, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE THREE, IT NEEDS TO BE NOTICED, THAT'S ALL.
THAT'S, DID WE WANT THE CHIEF TO OPINE ABOUT THE FARMER'S MARKET AT ALL? NO.
THE FARMER'S MARKET, THAT IS, SEEMS LIKE EVERYTHING'S BEING, WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED FOR THURSDAY, AND I'LL SPEAK TO YOU BEFORE AND AFTERWARDS ABOUT THAT.
AND, UM, COLBY JENKINS AND BOB BERNSTEIN REQUESTED THAT WE TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA AND NOT DISCUSS TONIGHT AND JUST LEAVE IT TO, UM, MOVE FURTHER ALONG DURING THE MEETING ON THURSDAY.
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BRIEF DISCUSSION ON THE RESOLUTION RELATING TO THE MORATORIUM ON CORPORATION THAT'S ON, UH, YOU KNOW, THE AGENDA.AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL THAT WE SHOULDN'T LET, UM, ANY OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS IN ALBANY OFF THE HOOK.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD CARES ABOUT THE, THE RAMIFICATIONS OF THE EDGEMONT, UM, YOU KNOW, INCORPORATION.
AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT IF, UM, WE MAKE A STATEMENT, THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE THAT, UM, OUR ESTATE REPRESENTATIVES IN ALBANY WILL, YOU KNOW, WILL TRY, YOU KNOW, BEING HELPFUL.
AS, YOU KNOW, WE KEEP SAYING IF AN BEST CASE SCENARIO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MAYBE 30 PE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE GONNA LOSE THEIR JOBS.
UH, YOU TALKING ABOUT TAX HIKES, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, SERVICE CUTS.
THIS IS GONNA BE, IF THEY DO INCORPORATE, IT'S GONNA BE DEVASTATING.
AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST FEEL IT'S A SIMPLE RESOLUTION.
AND, UM, I THINK WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, I'M STILL OPTIMISTIC THAT IF WE PASS IT, I THINK WE'LL END UP GETTING MORE HELP FROM WALDEN THEN IF WE DON'T, DON'T PASS IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I SAID, MY, MY COMMENTS, I'M JUST WONDERING, GINA, DID YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO, UH, YOU KNOW, THE
UM, AND HE ACTUALLY, I SPOKE TO TWO OKAY.
UM, I SPOKE TO ONE WHO, UH, DID SPEAK TO JEFF SHERWIN.
UM, AS HE SAID TO ME THAT HE, YOU KNOW, HE JUST CANNOT MAKE THAT SOLE DECISION BY HIMSELF.
SO HE, YOU KNOW, HE JUST USED, JUST COULDN'T MAKE THAT DECISION.
UM, BUT HE DID NOT SAY THAT THEY WOULD NOT FILE EITHER.
SO, UM, BUT WE HAD A DISCUSSION.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, HE HEARD ME OUT, I PLEADED HE UNDERSTOOD, AND IT'S NOT EVEN A PLEA.
I JUST EXPLAINED THAT WE NEED TO BE FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A, A STUDY DONE, HE CAN SEE WHAT HE, YOU KNOW, EDGEMONT CORPORATION OR E I C CAN SEE WHAT THEY WANNA STUDY, THE TALENT, BRING WHAT THEY WANNA STUDY, AND THEN WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND HAVE, LET ME JUST FINISH AND HAVE A, UM, INDEPENDENT LOOK OF WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE SO EVERYBODY CAN BE INFORMED ON WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S AT STAKE.
SO, YOU KNOW, HE WAS AWARE OF IT, YOU KNOW, AND HE SOLD THE REASONS AGAIN, OF WHY, UM, HE WANTED TO INCORPORATE.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, HE WAS LIKE, GINA, I, I AM NOT THE SOLE PERSON.
I CAN JUST MAKE THAT DECISION.
YOU KNOW, I LIKE AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT IF THERE IS A STUDY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD ANALYZE THE IMPACTS FOR EDGEMONT.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN IF, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? IF, WHY KEEP SAYING IF NO, BECAUSE CAROL, YOU RECEIVED THE MEMO FROM, UH, THE SENATOR'S OFFICE AND NOW THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE NOT EVEN SURE.
DO YOU WANT TO JUST MENTION THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT SURE IF SHE'S NOT SURE.
AND WE HAVE AN EMAIL FROM THE SENATOR'S OFFICE SAYING THAT THEY, THEY DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY'RE DOING THE STUDY.
WHAT TIME DID THAT COME IN? I DIDN'T.
WHO, WHO SENT THAT TO YOU? I RECEIVED MANNY, YOU'RE INVITED TO THE TABLE AS WELL.
WOULD YOU PULL THE CLOSER? THANKS.
I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM COURTNEY JOHNSON, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS FRIDAY LAST WEEK, SAYING THAT SENATOR STEWART COUSINS WAS WILLING TO MEET WITH US THIS FRIDAY.
UM, AND THEN SHE FOLLOWED THAT UP WITH ANOTHER MESSAGE SAYING THERE WAS NO $200,000 IN THE BUDGET.
WHAT DID SHE SAY? I, THAT COPIED ON THIS EMAIL.
WHAT DID SHE SAY EXACTLY? ALRIGHT.
SENT IT TO WHO? TO ME AND TO HUG CAULEY.
AND HOW DO YOU KNOW ABOUT IT? UH, I THINK YOU SENT IT TO ME, BUT, UH, BUT THE THING IS, THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE ON THE SCARSDALE ENQUIRER, UM, UH, WHERE, UH, THEY DID AN ARTICLE ON THE STATE BUDGET AND THEY SAID THE SCARSDALE ENQUIRER, YOU KNOW, PAUL, THIS IS A BOARD.
WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL US? RIGHT.
YOU DIDN'T WANNA SHARE THAT, LET US KNOW.
NO, BECAUSE BASICALLY YOU THINK THAT YOU DON'T THINK THAT'S MATERIAL.
LET ME SAY SOMETHING FOR A SEC, SENATOR COUSIN, FIRST OF ALL, OH, UM, THE, THE EMAIL THAT YOU SENT TO ME THAT YOU SHARED WITH ME WAS NOT SENT FROM THE SENATOR'S OFFICE TO ME.
SO I DON'T HAVE, SO IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T ME.
UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NOBODY FROM SENATOR COUSIN'S OFFICE SAID TO ME, OH, THERE'S NO STUDY.
SO THERE'S BASICALLY TWO CONFLICTS.
AND I THINK I SENT YOU, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE IN THE SCARSDALE INQUIRER, UM, AND IT WAS A PARAGRAPH ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO SAYING SENATOR COUSIN'S OFFICE CONFIRMED THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A STUDY.
SO, CAN I CON, UM, LAST THURSDAY EVENING, MARY JANESKY HAD A ZOOM CALL WITH ERIC ZINGER OF THE HARTSDALE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.
AND DURING THAT CALL, THERE WAS ABOUT 20 MINUTES DISCUSSION RELATED TO INCORPORATION.
DURING THAT CALL, SHE STATED THAT THERE WAS MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
SHE BEING MARY JANESKY? MARY JANESKY? YES.
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THE FOLLOWING DAY.SO I FORWARDED THE MESSAGE TO PAUL AND I SAID, I'M CONFUSED BECAUSE ON ONE HAND YOU'RE SAYING THE MONEY'S THERE.
MARY JANESKY SAYING THE MONEY'S THERE.
DAVID AND MEMO MORRIS MENTIONED TO ME THAT THE MONEY WAS THERE.
COURTNEY SENT THE EMAIL SAYING THE MONEY WASN'T THERE.
SO WHEN YOU RECEIVED THE EMAIL FROM, UM, THE MAJORITY LEADERS ON FRIDAY, YOU SENT IT TO PAUL ON FRIDAY? I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS FRIDAY OR NOT.
I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO MY RECORDS AND CHECK.
SO I WAS SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON? YOU'RE SAYING ONE THING THAT MARY JANE'S SAYING SOMETHING ELSE.
COURTNEY'S SAYING SOMETHING ELSE.
AND, UH, WE, WE ALL AGREE THAT THERE'S A STUDY, UH, THAT'S IMPORTANT.
AND YOU KNOW, DAVID, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS SAID CONSISTENTLY, THIS WAS A, YOU KNOW, HE, YOU KNOW, HE WORKED VERY HARD TRYING TO GET THE STUDY AND GETTING ALL THE PARTIES.
SO I JUST ASSUMED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON WHO WROTE TO YOU WAS, WAS, WAS INCORRECT.
YOU KNOW, I, I I ASSUME THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A STUDY UNLESS, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR A DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENTLY THEN WHY'D YOU SAY IF, IF THERE'S A STUDY? WELL, YOU, THAT'S, THAT'S THAT KEY WORD.
IF WE ALL PICKED UP ON, IF THERE'S A STUDY, IT SOUNDS LIKE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT WE, I DON'T, AS ALWAYS, ALL I KNOW IS WHAT I GOT THE EMAIL I GOT FROM YOU.
I'M JUST SAYING IF I COULD, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO FORWARD IT TO EVERYBODY.
IF YOU WANNA SEE, IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU COPY THE SUPERVISE.
TOWN BOARD GOT GREENBERG Y.COM.
'CAUSE OTHERWISE WE LEARN ABOUT IT ON A SITUATION LIKE THIS WHERE IT'S PUT ON THE AGENDA AND HE CAN SURPRISE US WITH, OH, THERE'S AN EMAIL.
WELL, THE, THAT'S NOT THE, THE ISSUE.
THANK YOU FOR LETTING THIS NOTE DOWN ISSUE.
NOT THE ISSUE IS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I JUST REALIZED THE ONLY ISSUE THAT YOU KNOW, I HAVE RIGHT NOW IS I JUST THINK THAT I, I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY WILL GET THE STUDY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MY GUESS, BECAUSE I FEEL THAT EVERYBODY, UH, THE SENATOR'S OFFICE DID CONFIRM THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A STUDY, UH, YOU KNOW, DONE.
AND IT WAS, UM, IN THE STATE, IN THE STATE BUDGET.
IT WAS, IS IT, IS IT LISTED WHERE IN THE SCARSDALE INQUIRER? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
SCARSDALE INQUIRER IS NOT THE STATE BUDGET.
THE STATE BUDGET HAS BEEN ADOPTED.
EITHER THE MONEY IS IN THERE OR IT'S NOT.
AT THIS POINT, THERE CAN'T BE.
NO, IT'S A BUDGET THAT THE SCARSDALE INQUIRER HAD AN ARTICLE, UM, TWO WEEKS AGO SAYING IT'S THIS SENATOR'S OFFICE CONFIRMED THAT IT'S IN, UH, IT'S IN THE, IT'S, IT'S IN THE BUDGET.
UH, STU, SENATOR STEWART COUSINS OFFICE CONFIRMED THAT THERE ARE FUNDS FOR A STUDY AND SAID SHE IS EAGER TO HAVE THAT STUDY COMMENCE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
THAT WAS A QUOTE, A DIRECT QUOTE FROM, NOT LAST WEEK, BUT TWO WEEKS AGO IN THE SCARSDALE INQUIRER.
AND I MADE, MADE A COPY OF THAT.
SO I BASICALLY CALL JUST A MOMENT.
FUNDS FOR A STUDY IS DIFFERENT THAN THERE'S MONEY EARMARKED FOR A STUDY.
IT SAYS THERE, I AM SURE THAT THERE IS MONEY TO FIX AND REPAIR A BRIDGE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THERE'S A PARTICULAR BRIDGE THAT'S GONNA BE FIXED.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DISTINCTION? THERE'S MONEY FOR A STUDY.
WE WERE TOLD MONEY WAS SPECIFIC TO DO THE STUDY.
NOW, IF THAT'S NOT IN THE BUDGET, THEN THAT'S WHERE, WHERE WE'RE GETTING INTO, IF THERE'S A STUDY, I BELIEVE THAT THE SENATOR TOLD ME SPECIFICALLY THAT THERE WAS MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
SO I DON'T KNOW ABOUT COURTNEY JOHNSON, AS FAR AS I KNOW, SHE SCHEDULES PEOPLE TO SEE THE SENATOR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE KNOWS OR DOESN'T KNOW, BUT SHE'S NOT THE SENATOR.
AND I SPOKE TO THE SENATOR DIRECTLY.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE SENATOR CONFIRMED THAT THERE WAS MONEY IN THE BUDGET.
I'LL FORWARD THE EMAIL TO YOU.
YOU JUST READ IT SO THIS WAY, PEOPLE WHO I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY.
I MEAN, I THINK WE COULD JUST, THE EMAIL AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT IT.
MAY, MAY I, BUT A CALL TO THE SENATOR'S OFFICE COULD.
IT'S NOT, NO, IT'S AT THE TOP.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY.
I'M, I'M NOT USED TO STANDING UP AND SPEAKING IN THE WORK SESSION, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, EH, WE'RE NOT HERE TO, TO DECIDE ON THE QUESTION WHETHER THE STUDY OR THE MONEY OR WHATEVER, UH, WITH, WITH OR WITHOUT A STUDY, IF THERE'S NO MORATORIUM, NO, THE GAME COULD BE OVER BEFORE THE MONEY GETS APPROPRIATE.
WE ARE HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE
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BOARD CAN DO TO HELP THE UNINCORPORATED AREA IN, IN FACT, ALL OF GREENBURG.BECAUSE THERE WILL BE IMPACTS TO EVERY VILLAGE AS WELL AS THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
AND EVEN IMPACTS TO EDGEMONT THAT THEY MIGHT NOT REALIZE.
IT, IT, IT'S COMING TOWARDS THEM.
WE ARE HERE TO ASK THE, AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH EDGEMONT, WHICH THANK YOU GINA, FOR DOING THAT.
I TALKED TO BERNSTEIN OVER THE WEEKEND AND HE SAID, YOU NEVER TRIED TO TALK TO ME.
I, I, I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING AN EFFORT AND IN CONVERSATION, SOMETIMES THINGS CAN BE REACHED, BUT I, I'M, I'M HERE.
AND TO, AS GREENBERG, UM, MEMBER OF THE GREENBERG SAVING GREENBERG COALITION, THAT YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING AND SEND A UNIFIED MESSAGE TO THE, TO THE SENATOR AS WELL AS THE REPRESENTATIVE TO PLEASE, PLEASE WORK ON A MORATORIUM, BECAUSE THIS CAN HAPPEN WITH OR WITHOUT A STUDY.
SO PLEASE, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE MORATORIUM, IF YOU DON'T MIND.
AND IF SHE DOESN'T DO THE STUDY, LET'S SAY IT FIZZLES OUT, THE TOWN BOARD WAS COMMITTED TO DO A STUDY ANYWAY.
SO THE THING IS, THERE'S GONNA BE A STUDY, WHETHER IT'S DONE BY THE TOWN OR WHETHER IT'S DONE BY THE STATE.
IF IT'S DONE BY THE STATE, PROBABLY IS BETTER BECAUSE THIS WAY EVERYBODY COULD BE PART OF IT.
AND EVERYBODY COULD, UH, COULD SAY, IF IT'S TOTALLY INDEPENDENT, NOBODY COULD SAY, OH, THIS IS A RIG STUDY, THERE'LL BE MORE CREDIBILITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I BELIEVE THAT THERE WILL BE A STUDY, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT I, I REALLY FEEL THAT IF WE PASS THE RESOLUTION TOMORROW, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS NOT TO EMBARRASS ANYBODY.
THE GOAL IS BASICALLY JUST TO SAY, THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
IF WE DO THE RESOLUTION, UH, THEY PASS A, UH, THEY PASS A MORATORIUM, THEN BASICALLY, UM, UH, EVERYBODY WHEN THEY VOTE WILL KNOW WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE.
NOBODY COULD SAY THAT THEY WERE BLINDSIDED.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEING, BEING RESPONSIBLE TO EDGEMONT RESIDENTS AND BEING RESPONSIBLE TO EVERYBODY IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG AND ALSO MARY JANE CHIMPSKY, AMY PAULIN, ANDREA STEWART COUSINS.
THEY MAY BECOME MORE AWARE OF THE IMPACTS.
AND THEY, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN I'M SAYING, OH, THE SKY'S FALLING, THIS IS THE WORST THING THAT'S HAPPENING.
MAYBE THEY THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT IT'S NOT GONNA BE AS BAD.
IF THERE IS AN INCORPORATION, THEY MAY THINK IT'S EXAGGERATION.
THEY MAY THINK WE COULD WORK IT OUT.
BUT I DON'T THINK, BUT I THINK IF YOU HAVE A STUDY AND THERE'S A PRESTIGIOUS INSTITUTION THAT IS NOT BIASED, AND THEY SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA, THE MINIMUM IS 30 LAYOFFS.
THE MINIMUM IS SALARY INCREASES.
THEN I, I BELIEVE THAT ALL THE LEGISLATORS WHO REPRESENT GREENBERG, BECAUSE THEY ALL ARE COMMITTED TO GREENBERG AND THEY'VE DONE WONDERFUL THINGS FOR GREENBERG IN THE PAST, I THINK THAT THEY'LL STAND UP AND SAY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M GOING TO STAND UP AND SAVE THE TOWN FROM HAVING MAJOR, MAJOR, UH, DISRUPTIONS AND, AND QUALITY OF LIFE IMPACTS.
YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY BELIEVE THAT ALL THE LEGISLATORS ARE GONNA DO THE RIGHT THING.
YOU KNOW, SO YOU, SO YOU KNOW, I'M JUST HOPEFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, BEFORE TOMORROW, YOU'LL JUST THINK ABOUT IT.
AND IT'S NOT, WE PASS A SIMPLE RESOLUTION.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A PAGE ONE STORY IF THERE'S A MORATORIUM, BUT IT SENDS A MESSAGE TO ALBANY THAT WE REALLY, UH, THAT ALL OF US WANT THEM TO GIVE THIS THEIR PRIORITY ATTENTION.
AND AGAIN, I WANT TO EMPHASIZE, I REALIZE EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THE EFFORT TO KEEP THE TOWN TOGETHER.
SO I'M NOT TRYING TO INSULT ANYBODY.
I'M NOT TRYING TO, IT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I JUST FEEL WE HAVE TO FIGHT AS HARD AS POSSIBLE TO DO EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE.
SO AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE ALL KNOW WE DID EVERYTHING WE COULD DO TO SAVE THE TOWN.
AND IF WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL, WE'RE NOT SUCCESSFUL.
I, I WANNA POINT OUT THAT AT THE LAST MEETING WE WERE PRESENTED WITH A VERY LARGE STACK OF PETITIONS SIGNED BY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
IN THERE, IS THAT A PETITION FOR A MORATORIUM? IT WAS A PETITION THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD VOTE, CORRECT? CORRECT.
THE ISSUE THAT WE'RE HAVING IS WE KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT THIS IS NOT GONNA PASS.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS AT THE 11TH HOUR OF ASKING FOR A MORATORIUM VERY LATE IN THE GAME.
WHEREAS WHEN YOU ASKED US EARLIER, DID WE SUPPORT EVERYBODY SHOULD VOTE AND SENDING THAT
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TO ALBANY, WE PASSED THAT UNANIMOUSLY TIED TO THAT WAS NOT A REQUEST FOR A MORATORIUM.THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A GREAT TIME TO ASK IT.
'CAUSE THERE WOULD'VE BEEN TIME TO DO SOMETHING IN ALBANY WHEN YOU WERE COLLECTING SIGNATURES FOR OVER A MONTH AND YOU WERE VERY EFFECTIVE GOING AROUND AND GETTING SIGNATURES, INCLUDING THAT IN THE PETITION TO SAY, STATE LEGISLATORS, THE SUPPORT FOR A MORATORIUM THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
NOW WE ARE HERE AT THE END OF MAY.
SOMEHOW GET EVERYBODY ON BOARD IN BOTH HOUSES AND THE GOVERNOR TO SOMEHOW PASS THIS AND HAVE THE GOVERNOR SIGN THIS.
NONE OF US CAN SEE HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN.
IT RIGHT NOW, PAUL WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
AT LEAST WE'LL SAY WE DID SOMETHING.
BUT THAT'S GAMESMANSHIP QUITE FRANKLY TO ME, AT THIS POINT, PASSING A RESOLUTION IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE MEANING.
THE MEANING ISN'T, LOOK, IT'S NOW IN YOUR COURT, THEY'RE GONNA JUST SAY, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN SAYING TO US IS IT'S TOO LATE.
PARTICULARLY WHEN THERE'S AN THERE'S OPPOSITION.
ANYTHING THAT HAS OPPOSITION, THEY HAVE TO LOBBY AND WORK.
MAYBE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, SIX WEEKS AGO WHEN WE PASSED THE OTHER RESOLUTION, BUT THIS, NOW WE WANT YOU TO DO THIS AND PASS IT ALL WELL-INTENTIONED SO THAT OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES WOULD THEN BE ON THE HOOK IF THEY DON'T GET IT PASSED.
BUT HOW FAIR IS THAT FOR US TO DO THAT WHEN GENERAL, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ASKED FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO GO THROUGH ALBANY.
THERE'S NO TIME AND THERE'S NO CONTROVERSY IN THAT OTHER ISSUE.
THE REASON FOR THE PIVOT IS BECAUSE WHEN WE MET WITH THE SENATOR, CHIEF, CHIEF POINT BLANK SAID THAT SHE WAS NOT GOING TO BE PUSHING TO GET THE RIGHT TO VOTE BECAUSE SHE FELT THAT A STUDY SHOULD BE DONE.
SO IN RESPONSE TO THAT, WE ARE SAYING, OKAY, IF YOU WANT TO DO A STUDY SO THAT YOU CAN COME UP WITH LEGISLATION THAT IS FAIR TO EVERYBODY, YOU SHOULD PUT A MORATORIUM IN PLACE UNTIL THE STUDY IS DONE.
SO THAT, SO THAT YOU THEN COME OUT WITH SOMETHING THAT IS FAIR TO ALL PARTIES ARE CONCERNED.
THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO TAKE THE PIVOT, BECAUSE SHE MADE IT QUITE CLEAR THAT WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH OUR PRIMARY GOAL.
AND WHEN DID YOU MEET WITH THE SENATOR? WE MET WITH HER IN HER OFFICE ON MARCH THE SIXTH.
AND SHE CAME TO OUR COMMUNITY MEETING ON APRIL 27TH AND ADDRESSED THE COMMUNITY.
SO MARCH THE SIXTH, AND NOW WE'RE BEING ASKED TO DO A MORATORIUM.
THEIR RESPONSE IS SIMPLY, YOU KNOW, WHERE WERE YOU? NOT THAT I THINK THAT A WOULD PASS ANYWAY, MAY I EXPLAIN? SURE.
SHE SAID THAT SHE HAD ASKED PACE TO DO A STUDY.
AND SHE WAS EXPECTING TO GET THOSE, THAT REPORT BACK FROM THEM BY THE END OF MARCH.
SO WE FELT THAT IT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE TO WAIT UNTIL SHE GOT THE REPORT AND THEN RESPOND TO HER DECISION MAKING AS A RESULT OF GETTING THAT REPORT.
AND, YOU KNOW, ALL FROM MY EXPERIENCES, BECAUSE WE'VE LOBBIED ALBANY FOR A BUNCH OF THINGS OVER THE YEARS, AND I KNOW THAT MOST OF WHAT GETS DONE IN ALBANY IS DONE THE LAST TWO DAYS FOR THREE DAYS.
AND I REMEMBER FROM TIME UP, BECAUSE WE HAD THE HOTEL TAX THAT WAS CONTROVERSIAL.
WE HAD SALES TAX ONCE IT WAS CONTROVERSIAL.
WE, WE HAD, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CHANGED, UM, UH, THE REASSESSMENT.
WE HAD A, A PHASE IN EVERYTHING WAS DONE THE LAST FEW DAYS.
AND I REMEMBER THERE WERE TIMES I ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT.
OKAY, WHEN WERE THEY SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION? TOM ANTE, THERE WERE TIMES WHEN TOM ANTE REACHED OUT TO ME LIKE A WEEK BEFORE THE END OF SESSION AND BASICALLY SAID, YOU KNOW, UH, I NEED YOUR HELP.
AND WE, WE ACTED THE LAST, LAST MINUTE WITHIN, BEFORE THEY WENT OUT.
I'M ASKING THOUGH, WHEN NOT JUST THE ACTION AND THE, THE PUSHING FOR IT, BUT WHEN WAS IT FIRST SUBMITTED TO THE SENATE? EACH OF THOSE BILLS? HE, HE DID WE AT THE LAST MINUTE.
BUT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.
'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT REALLY ANSWERING.
UM, AND THAT IS BECAUSE WHAT HAS TO HAPPEN
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IS THAT THE LEGISLATION HAS TO BE WRITTEN BY THE SENATE AND ASSEMBLY HAS TO BE VETTED, HAS TO BE GIVEN A NUMBER.THOSE ARE ALL PROCESSES THAT TAKE TIME AND THEN GO TO SUBCOMMITTEE IN EACH ONE OF THOSE INSTANCES.
I'M NOT SURE WHICH SUBCOMMITTEE, UM, OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT, OR SUBCOMMITTEES FOR REVIEW AND FOR A VOTE.
THEN ONCE IT GOES THROUGH THE SUBCOMMITTEES, IT'S THEN PUT ON THE FLOOR OR BOTH FLOORS FOR A VOTE.
THERE'S, THERE'S ALSO, THEY THERE'S MORE TO IT.
'CAUSE YOU HAVE TO GET, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE GOING TO SUPPORT IT OR SPONSORS AND, AND IT'S ALL PROCESS.
THAT'S WHY IT'S, THAT'S WHY I ASKED THE QUESTION, BECAUSE YES, THEY, THERE ARE TIMES THAT THINGS HAVE HAPPENED AT THE LAST MINUTE, BUT THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF LAYING IN, WAIT, THEY'VE ALREADY HAD THE LEGISLATION WRITTEN.
THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN GIVEN A NUMBER.
THOSE ARE HARD THINGS TO DO TO WITHIN THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF A SESSION.
NUMBER ONE, WHICH IS WHAT WE SAID LAST WEEK.
AND NUMBER TWO, UM, THE, THE, THE, IN THE LAST, WHEN YOU HAVE OPPOSITION, WHICH IS LIKELY, THEN THAT EXTENDS THE PERIOD OF TIME.
SO THE LIKELIHOOD, WHICH WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY OUR, OUR REPRESENTATIVES OF THAT HAPPENING, ESPECIALLY MOST ESPECIALLY IN THE ASSEMBLY, UM, IS SLIM TO NONE.
WELL, I DISAGREE BECAUSE AGAIN, I I KNOW IT'S, THAT'S, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF AGREEMENT OR DISAGREEMENT.
I'VE, I'VE BEEN, I'VE, I'VE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS WHERE, OKAY, SO PAUL, JUST, JUST VERY QUICKLY, MANY TIMES, LEMME JUST ADDRESS THIS.
YOU'RE A SUPERVISOR AND YOU ARE THE FACILITATOR OF THIS MEETING, RIGHT? YES.
AND YOU SHOULD, AND YOU ARE NOT.
YOU SHOULD TAKE THE CHARGE IN SAYING WHAT YOU WANT TO SAY.
THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP AHEAD, PAUL.
PAUL, LET'S GO BACK TO THE HOTEL TAX.
WHAT YOU SAY, LET'S GO BACK TO THE HOTEL TAX.
WHEN DID THE GOVERNOR SIGN THE HOTEL TAX? IT WAS IN DECEMBER, RIGHT? I COULD CHECK THE DATES, BUT IT WAS AT THE VERY END OF THE YEAR.
WHAT DOES, WHAT PURPOSE DOES IT SERVE IF SOMEHOW IT GETS THROUGH THE SENATE, GETS THROUGH THE ASSEMBLY, GOES TO THE GOVERNOR, AND SHE DOESN'T SIGN IT UNTIL DECEMBER? WELL THEN IT'S, IT'S, THEN IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY TO GET THE GOVERNOR TO SIGN.
I, I, I'LL TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT IF IT GOES THROUGH THE SENATE AND THE ASSEMBLY, I WILL GO TO ALBANY AND I'LL REACH OUT TO EVERYONE I COULD, UM, AT, YOU KNOW, AT, AT THE STATE LEVEL AND SEE IF IT'S SIGNED.
I ALSO FEEL THAT JUST, UM, LIKE GINA, UH, TRIED VERY HARD TO GET THE INCORPORATION ADVOCATES TO, UM, TO SUPPORT THE MORTOR, TO, TO SUPPORT NOT FILING, WHICH IS REALLY GREAT.
YOU KNOW WHAT? THAT YOU MADE THE EFFORT.
BUT YOU KNOW, THEY, SO I FEEL THAT IF OUR ESTATE SENATOR AND ASSEMBLY, UH, WOMAN WOULD, WOULD SEE THAT, UH, THE TOWN BOARD IS BEHIND US, AND THEN ANDREA COMES OUT AND SAYS, OR MARY JANE COMES OUT AND SAYS, I'M ALSO BEHIND IT.
UH, THEN, UH, WE WILL ALSO PUT PRESSURE ON THE EDGEMONT INCORPORATION, UM, LEADERSHIP TO SAY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT? WE MAY NOT NEED A LEGAL MORATORIUM, BUT WE, WE WANT TO WORK WITH A SENATOR.
WE WANNA WORK WITH ASSEMBLY, UH, WOMAN, WE WANNA WORK WITH THE DELEGATION AND THE TOWN, AND LET'S JUST GET THE INFORMATION OUT.
LET'S FIND OUT WHAT THE INFORMATION IS.
I THINK WE'LL MAKE IT, I THINK THEY'RE MORE LIKELY, UM, NOT TO FI NOT TO FILE, UM, UNTIL AFTER THE STUDY.
IF, YOU KNOW, ANDREA, MARY, JANE, AMY WOULD SAY, LET'S JUST BE RESPONSIBLE.
GET THE FACTS OUT, GET A STUDY.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL EVERYBODY, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY HERE WHO FEELS THAT ANDREA DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE TOWN.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYBODY HERE WHO FEEL THAT FEELS THAT, YOU KNOW, MARY JANE OR AMY DOESN'T CARE ABOUT THE TOWN.
IF, IF, IF THERE ARE GONNA BE MAJOR, MAJOR LAYOFFS AND RAMIFICATIONS, UM, I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT ALL OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS IN ALBANY WOULDN'T WANT TO HELP THE TOWN.
THE, THEY, THEY, THEY, BECAUSE THEIR WHOLE NATURE HAS BEEN, THEY'VE GONE TO EVENTS.
THEY'VE, THEY'VE BEEN COMMITTED.
THEY'VE HELPED US, UM, UH, ADDRESS, UH, YOU KNOW, ISSUES, UH, MANY ISSUES OVER THE YEARS.
WHY ARE THEY GONNA ALLOW THE TOWN TO FALL APART? YOU KNOW, WHICH IS BASICALLY WHAT'S GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE MAJOR, MAJOR PRO.
WE ALL KNOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE MAJOR PROBLEMS, UH, IF THEY BREAK AWAY.
SO LET'S DO THE STUDY TO GET, GET THE FACTS AND THEN WISHFUL THINK, I'M SORRY,
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WISHFUL THINKING.WHICH WE ALL WISH DOESN'T MAKE IT HAPPEN THOUGH.
'CAUSE I, I BELIEVE IN ANDREA AND I BELIEVE IN MARY JANE, AND I BELIEVE, I BELIEVE IN ALL THREE OF THEM.
HOWEVER, I, FOR THE REASONS THAT I MENTIONED, IT IS A PROCESS.
AND THEN THE, THE LAST PIECE, WHICH FRANCIS SAID, WHICH IS HAVING GOING TO THE GOVERNOR'S DESK ONCE IT IS, AND WE HAVE TWO WEEKS, AND THEY'VE GOT A VERY FULL AGENDA.
WELL, THIS IS, SO THERE'S NOT THAT MANY COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GONNA BASICALLY, THAT ARE AT RISK OF BASICALLY, UM, HAVING MAJOR, MAJOR LAYOFFS, MAJOR DISRUPTIONS IN QUALITY OF LIFE, MAJOR TAX INCREASES.
UM, THIS IS, THIS IS A CRISIS FOR THE TOWN FOR MOST PEOPLE IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG.
SO I, I BELIEVE THAT IF WE SPEAK OUT ALL THE HAVE, HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO ANY OF THOSE REPRESENTATIVES IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS? HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THEM ABOUT THIS? I, I KNOW.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THEM? I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR THIS.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THEM? WELL, YOU, YOU'VE, I HAVEN'T.
WELL, WHAT I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL THAT YOU SHOULD SPEAK TO THEM DIRECTLY AND SEE WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY.
IF, IF YOU, IF YOU WANNA ADVOCATE, THEN PLEASE ADVOCATE AND PLEASE LET US KNOW.
WOULD IT MAKE, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE FOR THE BOARD TO, UH, TO
BECAUSE, BECAUSE BECAUSE WHEN, IF WE, IF WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I THINK EACH OF US PERHAPS, OR AT LEAST I KNOW, I, I'VE, I'VE SPOKEN WITH THEM DIRECTLY.
SO I, SO WE ALL HAVE, ALL HAVE.
SO I, I, I, I, YOU KNOW, SO I UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEIR POSITIONS ARE AND WHERE, WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM.
UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T AND YOU'RE ACTING BLINDLY, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT HAVING DONE THAT, THEN YOU'RE COMING FROM A SLIGHTLY, FROM A DISADVANTAGED PLACE.
ON THE OTHER HAND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY SAY, I DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, I'M HOPEFUL THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA PASS A RESOLUTION.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY SHOULD BE LEFT OFF THE HOOK.
BECAUSE I FEEL THAT ANYTIME THERE'S BEEN AN ISSUE THAT I FELT STRONGLY ABOUT OR ANYBODY HAS FELT STRONGLY ABOUT YOU, YOU SPEAK OUT.
AND IF SOMEBODY SAYS, PLEASE DON'T DO THIS.
I, YOU KNOW, I I, I THINK THAT WE JUST HAVE TO SPEAK OUT.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT SPEAK, I FEEL LIKE JUST KEEP GIVING AN IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE NOT SPEAKING OUT AND THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS.
YOU KEEP SAYING THAT AS THOUGH YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT'S SITTING HERE ADVOCATING ALL WEEKEND.
EACH ONE OF US HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING ALL WEEKEND.
SO I I I, I SAT HERE QUIETLY ENOUGH.
LIKE WE, WE ALL HAVE BEEN WORKING DILIGENTLY ALL WEEKEND, ALL WEEKEND.
SO CAN WE JUST PASS THE RESOLUTION? AND THAT'S WHAT THE, IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T, IT'S NOT LIKE WE DON'T CARE AND EVERYTHING.
REMEMBER WE'VE ALREADY HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
I WOULD REALLY LIKE IT IF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PUSHING THE EDGEMONT INCORPORATION WOULD ACTUALLY STATE THAT THEY WILL WAIT UNTIL THE STUDY IS DONE.
REMEMBER, WE REPRESENT EDGEMONT AS WELL.
THAT'S NOT SOME SEPARATE ISLAND.
I WOULD HOPE THAT OUR STATE REPRESENTATIVES WOULD ENCOURAGE THEM TO STATE THAT.
'CAUSE IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
UH, BUT ON THE FLIP SIDE OF THAT IS IF WE'RE DOING A STUDY, AND I HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS, IF, AND I REALLY DON'T LIKE SURPRISES AND I DO A LOT OF HOMEWORK TO PREPARE FOR THESE KIND OF MEETINGS, AND THEN TO FIND OUT YOU KNEW SOMETHING OVER THE WEEKEND, DIDN'T SHARE IT, IT'S DISTURBING, UM, AS TO HOW YOU CONSIDER US TO BE A TOWN BOARD.
BUT IF WE'RE, IF, IF, IF THEY WERE TO MOVE FORWARD AND, AND FILE PRIOR TO THE STUDY BEING DONE, THEN THAT'S, THAT SHOULD BE SAYING SOMETHING TO THE RESIDENTS OF EDGEMONT AS TO WHY ARE THEY FILING BEFORE THE STUDY IS FINISHED.
AND I, AND I THINK THAT'S COULD BE A VERY EFFECTIVE ARGUMENT.
I I REALLY THINK WE'RE GOING TO WIN OR LOSE THIS ON THE MERITS.
UH, AND I THINK THIS STUDY IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
NOW, COULD AT THE SAME TIME, UM, THEY'RE, THEY FILE AND THE STUDY IS SLOW WALKED FOR WHATEVER REASON, BY WHOEVER.
SO THAT, THAT'S NOT GOING TO COME OUT ANYTIME SOON.
WELL, THAT BE A CONCERN TO ME.
I WOULD RATHER PUT OUR EFFORTS INTO GETTING A MEANINGFUL STUDY DONE AND GETTING IT DONE TIMELY.
I'M SURE THE EDGEMONT, THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPORTING EDGEMONT INCORPORATION, UH, DON'T WANT THIS TO DRAG OUT
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FOREVER.WE JUST, WE WANT TO GET THE DATA AND HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE, OF THE DATA.
SO I THINK THAT'S REALLY WHERE OUR EFFORT SHOULD BE.
WHAT I LIKE BEFORE TOMORROW NIGHT, IT IS ON THE AGENDA TO VOTE ON, UH, BEFORE TOMORROW NIGHT THAT SOMEBODY WHO HAS ANY INFLUENCE OVER THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PUSHING THIS, UM, THAT THEY WOULD WAIT OR, OR THAT'S THEIR INTENDING TO WAIT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T NEED NOTARIZED STATEMENTS, BUT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HEAR BACK FROM OUR CONSTITUENTS.
'CAUSE WE DO REPRESENT EDGEMONT THAT, UH, THEY'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE RESULTS OF THIS STUDY AS MUCH AS WE ARE.
CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? UM, WOULD IT MAKE, UM, SENSE TO INVITE, UM, YOU KNOW, ANDREA, MARY, JANE AND AMY TO UH, MEET WITH THE TOWN BOARD AT A PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, SESSION.
AND THEN WE COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE WANT, YOU KNOW, INFORMATION AS TO IS A STUDY FULLY FUNDED? WHO'S GONNA DO THE STUDY? WHAT THE, UH, PARAMETERS ARE GONNA BE OF THIS STUDY? HOW LONG IS IT GONNA TAKE? BECAUSE IF THE STU WHEN WE MET WITH, WHEN WE WERE GONNA DO THE STUDY, I THINK THEY SAID IT WAS GONNA BE LIKE SIX, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, THEY SAID THEY COULD DO IT.
I THINK IN MY RECOLLECTION IS LIKE FOUR TO SIX MONTHS, OR PROBABLY, I THINK IT WAS MORE LIKE FOUR MONTHS.
SO THE THING IS, UM, MAYBE IF, UM, THE BOARD COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, TRY GETTING ANDREA, UM, AND MARY JANE AND UM, AMY TO PARTICIPATE IN A WORK SESSION BY ZOOM, UH, AND DO IT SAY NEXT, YOU KNOW, NEXT WEEK IF, UM, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE THEN, THEN WE, YOU KNOW, WE'LL KNOW IF THERE'S A STUDY, WE COULD ALSO INVITE JEFF SHERWIN AND, UH, THE PEOPLE FROM THE INCORPORAT INCORPORATION, YOU KNOW, ADVOCATES TO, TO THAT.
AND THEN WE COULD SAY, LISTEN, WE ALL WANNA SIT TOGETHER.
WE, WE WANNA TALK ABOUT THE PARAMETERS OF THE STUDY.
WE ALL THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT FOR THE, YOU KNOW, GREAT FOR THE TOWN, AND LET'S SEE IF WE COULD WORK OUT THE DETAILS.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR LIKE A, UH, A FIVE YEAR DELAY.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A STUDY TO BE DONE QUICKLY, SAY FOUR OR FIVE, SIX MONTHS OR WHATEVER.
AND THEN AFTER THE MORATORIUMS OVER, MAYBE IF, MAYBE IF WE ALL DO THAT, UM, AND ANDREA AND, UH, AND AMY AND MARY JANE ARE PART OF THAT, THEN THEY'LL REALIZE THAT WE'RE BEING REASONABLE.
THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
AND MAYBE THEY'LL SAY TO, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, THE INCORPORATION PEOPLE DO, YOU KNOW WHAT, JUST WORK WITH 'EM AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALL, IT'S IN EVERYBODY.
IT'S EVERY IN THE INTEREST OF EDGEMONT TO FIND OUT WHAT THE RAMIFICATIONS ARE TO THEM, BECAUSE THERE COULD BE NEGATIVE IMPACTS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO THAT, TO THEM IF THEY BREAK AWAY.
SO I, I, I FEEL, I, I JUST FEEL THIS IS THE TIME WHERE WE ALL SHOULD SIT IN A ROOM AND HAVE A, A DISCUSSION AND, AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A FIGHT.
ALL WE WANT IS INFORMATION WE DON'T WANT.
WE'RE NOT SAYING NOBODY, THIS IS NOT GOING TO EVENTUALLY BE ALLOWED TO PROCEED.
WE'RE SAYING WE JUST WANT INFORMATION.
SO EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN, UM, KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M, WE ALL, I FEEL IT WOULD BE GREAT IF EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN COULD VOTE, BUT THE MORATORIUM IS ONLY ON THE STUDY.
IS THAT SOMETHING? AND MAYBE, WELL, I THINK IT'S, IT'S A GREAT CONCEPT FOR US ALL TO SIT DOWN.
UM, SO WOULD, WHETHER THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN, BUT I'M SAYING, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU HAVE EXCELLENT RELATIONS WITH, YOU KNOW, MARY JANE AND WITH ELLEN, AND YOU KNOW, AMY, I DO HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH ELLEN.
I KNOW THAT YOU, LIKE, I KNOW YOU, YOU'RE A BIG ADMIRER OF YOUR YOURSELF
I'M SAYING I KNOW WITH ANDREA AND MARY, JANE AND AMY, YOU HAVE, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO REACH OUT AND ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH ALL THE PARTIES AND THEN WE COULD ALL SIT DOWN AND, AND SEE IF WE COULD IN A, LIKE, NOT POINTING FINGERS, WE COULD COME UP AND, AND FIND, UM, WELL, I THINK THAT CAN BE A FORMAL INVITATION FROM THE SUPERVISOR.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S SO LATE IN THE SESSION, IT WOULD BE HARD TO GET ANYTHING DONE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
SO FOR US TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING, YOU'RE THEN PUSHING THIS CAN DOWN THE, DOWN THE STREET, AND YOU THEN SAY, WELL, WE DEFINITELY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TIME NOW TO DO A RESOLUTION.
OKAY, WELL, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT MORATORIUM, THAT CAN FELL OFF THE CURB ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
RIGHT? THE, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS ACTUALLY MOVING FORWARD AND HAVING A TIMELY AND EFFECTIVE STUDY.
I'M HEARING IF THAT REALLY BOTHERS ME A LOT.
IF THERE'S NO STUDY, THEN ALL OF THESE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE'RE HAVING MEAN NOTHING UNLESS THEN WE COULD THEN BRING UP THE STUDY THAT WE WERE GONNA DO
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ANYWAY BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IT OFF THE AGENDA.WELL, BUT THAT STUDY IS ONE SIDED.
AND, UM, AND WE MUST KEEP IN MIND THE CONTROLLER, THE CONTROLLER'S DETERMINATION, EVEN THAT MIGHT BE PUT US AT RISK.
SO I, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT'S DEBATABLE.
I I, I DON'T ACTUALLY, I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S DEBATABLE.
THAT'S WHY WE WERE DOING ONE SIDE, BECAUSE WE COULDN'T DO THEIR SIDE DOING THE STATE.
BUT FRANKLY, IF THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO, I MEAN, IF THIS IS JUST A DELAY TACTIC, THEN I HAVE, I HAVE NO ISSUE WITH KICKING BACK IN OUR STUDY TO DO JUST THE ONE SIDE, WHICH I BELIEVE WE HAVE AN OPINION THAT SAYS THAT THAT WOULD NOT BE, UH, IN VIOLATION.
UH, WE HELD IT OFF BECAUSE WE WERE WAITING FOR THE BUDGET.
SO WE HAD IT ON IN MARCH, AND THEN WE OKAY.
HOLD, UH, UH, MARCH, HOLD OFF BECAUSE THE BUDGET'S COMING OUT APRIL 1ST.
WELL, IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH INCORPORATION OR NOT, THE BUDGET WAS DELAYED.
IT WASN'T PURPOSELY BECAUSE OF INCORPORATION.
IT WAS, THE BUDGET TOOK MORE TIME.
AND WE THOUGHT WE KEPT KICKING THAT OFF UNTIL WE HEARD THERE WAS A STUDY MAY SAY, UM, THANK YOU, UM, FOR REMINDING THAT THE TOWN WAS GONNA, UH, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME THAT THE TOWN WAS GONNA DO A STUDY.
AND UH, I LIKE TO SAY THAT IF THE TOWN IS DOING A STUDY, IT'S NOT ONE SIDED.
YOU'RE DOING IT FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE TOWN.
AND AS, AS FAR AS I KNOW, EDGEMONT IS A MEMBER OF OUR TOWN, UH, IF WE TAKE START TAKING POSITIONS LIKE ONE SIDED, ONE VERSUS THE OTHER, THEN IT IS ONE SIDED.
I MANY TO EXPLAIN A CONTROLLER, HIS OPINION, WHICH SAYS WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T PUT OUR THUMB ON THE SCALE OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY INCORPORATE OR NOT.
BUT DOING A STUDY'S NOT PUTTING THUMBS ON.
THE THE ATTORNEY CAN SO EXPLAIN THAT.
THE STUDY THAT WE WERE LOOKING TO HAVE DONE, AND I SEE THE FIRST TIME IT WAS PUT ON THE AGENDA BEFORE IT WAS HELD OVER WAS FEBRUARY 22ND.
SO VERY CLOSE TO MARCH, BUT THE STUDY WAS TO SEE THE IMPACT ON THE REMAINING AREA OF UNINCORPORATED GREEN.
SO THAT'S THE ONE SIDE, RIGHT? IT IS, IT WOULD NOT, WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO STUDY THE IMPACT ON THE NEW VILLAGE OF EDGEMONT.
NOT ONE SIDE WE'RE TRYING TO PUSH AN AGENDA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WHY WOULDN'T IT BE POSSIBLE TO LOOK AT ALL SIDES? BECAUSE THERE'S A, THERE'S A CONTROLLER'S OPINIONS.
UM, I, I ALSO LIKE TO SAY, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND, UH, YOUR, YOUR POINT ABOUT THE TIMETABLE AND, AND HOW THINGS GET DONE IN, IN ALBANY.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK A NUMBER OF US HAVE BEEN KICKING THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
AND I THINK, UH, C STEWART COUSINS IN OUR MEETING DID THE SAME.
AND, UM, AND ALSO, UH, I I LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THE TOWN BOARD HAS HAD MANY OPPORTUNITIES.
I KNOW I, LOOK, I, I'M, I'M A BIG, BIG BELIEVER IN CITIZEN ENGAGEMENT AND, AND CITIZEN, UH, UH, CITIZEN BEING PROACTIVELY AND BRINGING ATTENTION TO ISSUES TO THE TOWN, UH, GOVERNMENT.
BUT WE DID PUT TOGETHER A, A VERY EFFECTIVE, UH, TOWN HALL MEETING, AND NONE OF THE BOARD MEMBERS WERE THERE.
I MEAN, I, WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CONTROLLER'S OPINION, THAT COULD BE CONCEIVED.
IT COULD BE AS PUTTING AND, AND BE, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE DIDN'T CARE.
COULD BE, IT COULD BE THE AUDIENCE.
I HAD PLANS, I HAD PLANE TICKETS MONTHS IN ADVANCE OF THAT MEETING.
BEFORE THAT MEETING WAS EVEN A SCINTILLA OF THOUGHT IN ANYONE'S MIND.
AND I DON'T FEEL QUITE FRANKLY, THAT I HAVE TO TELL SOMEBODY WHERE OR WHAT I WAS DOING THAT NIGHT.
FRANKLY, WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT MEETING IS PEOPLE STARTED TALKING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD OR SHOULD NOT INCORPORATE, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR US.
NOW PAUL WAS THERE, RIGHT? AND UNDERST, SO HE'S THE HERO TO YOUR GROUP BECAUSE HE SHOWED UP.
YOU CAN'T HAVE A QUORUM THERE.
YOU COULDN'T HAVE A QUORUM WITHOUT NOTICING, YOU KNOW? SO IF YOU RAISE IT AGAIN AS TO WHY WEREN'T WE THERE, RIGHT? WE PASSED THE RESOLUTION, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SAID YOU WANTED.
I EXPECTED, QUITE FRANKLY, I'LL SPEAK FOR MYSELF, FOR YOU TO TAKE THAT RESOLUTION AND RUN WITH IT.
AND RUN, TAKE THAT RES AND RUN WITH IT.
YOU GOT ANDREA STEWART COUSINS THERE, YOU GOT MARY JANESKY THERE.
I DON'T THINK YOU GOT AMY POLAND THERE.
WELL, MAYBE THAT'S POSITIVE TO PROTECT YOUR GROUP.
OR PROTECT US FROM THE CONTROLLER'S OPINION.
RIGHT? I WAS GLAD I WASN'T THERE.
SO NOW YOU CAN GO AROUND AND TELL EVERYBODY, I WAS GLAD I WASN'T THERE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE IT'S TOTALLY OUTTA CONTEXT.
BUT THE MESSAGE, THE MESSAGE THAT WAS KIND OF, UH,
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HALF DELIVERED AND NOT DELIVERED WAS THAT THERE WAS A STUDY PROMISED AND NOT, AND IF, AND THAT, AND I CAN UNDERSTAND MR. FINE, UM, IF, BECAUSE IT, IT WAS SO UNCLEAR AS IT WAS DELIVERED EVEN ON THAT DAY.IF, IF I MAY, UM, THE, THE, I BELIEVE AT THAT POINT, UM, THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER WAS TRYING TO GET IT THROUGH.
IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF, LET, LET ME SNAP MY FINGERS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS APPARENTLY SOME CONCERN AND OPPOSITION, ESPECIALLY, THERE WAS SO MUCH GOING ON WITH THE BUDGET MM-HMM.
SO, UM, BUT IT WAS, THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE, IT WAS ALSO A REP.
IT SOUNDED LIKE THERE'S A REPRESENTATION THAT THE STUDY WAS, WAS IN THE WORKS.
WELL, THERE, THERE TWO, THERE ARE TWO STUDIES, CASE STUDY, THERE'S A PACE STUDY, RIGHT.
THAT, THAT LOOKS AT KIND OF AN OVERALL PICTURE.
SO CLEARLY THE, THE, THE MAJORITY LEADER IS, IS CONCERNED ABOUT IT AND, AND LOOKING INTO BECOMING BETTER INFORMED ON A STATEWIDE LEVEL.
RIGHT? BUT, BUT AS FAR AS THE OTHER STUDY THAT WAS STILL IN THE PROCESS MM-HMM.
AND SO OF COURSE SHE COULDN'T MAKE ANY PRO PROMISES AND THAT'S WHY IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IFFY.
I ALSO, UM, JUST ONE, ONE LAST COMMENT, UH, ON THIS, UM, JUST BECAUSE IT, UM, IT, THERE'S A FEELING THAT IT MIGHT NOT MAKE IT THROUGH ALL THE STEPS NECESSARY TO BECOME A LAW OR TO BE FUNDED.
UM, THE MORATORIUM OR THE PROJECT OF, OF DOING IT.
I THINK IT, IT HELPS, UH, IDENTIFY WHERE THIS TOWN IS AND FEELS ABOUT THE NEED TO GIVE OURSELVES SOME TIME.
AND I THINK AS A STATEMENT, IF EVEN IF IT DOESN'T GET PASSED AS A STATEMENT, IT'S VERY APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THAT PUT OUT THERE TO BOTH, UH, THE HOUSE AND, AND THE SENATE.
I I, SOMETIMES IT'S NOT NECESSARY SOMETHING TO BE ABLE TO PASS EVERYTHING, BUT IT PUTS IT OUT THERE IN A, IN A, IN A SENSE THAT, UH, WE ARE THERE AS A COMMUNITY, WE'RE TOGETHER.
UM, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO SHOW THAT.
I THINK, IF I MAY, I, AND I APPRECIATE THAT SENTIMENT AND, AND AS, UM, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON SAID, WE WORKED ON IT ALL WEEKEND.
WE HAVE MADE IT KNOWN HOW WE FEEL.
AND EVEN AS WE SIT IN THIS ROOM AT THIS TABLE AND GO ON RECORD TO SAY THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPEN, WE HAVE, WHY WOULD WE NEED A RESOLUTION? HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE THINGS? I DON'T THINK IT, IT DOES.
I THINK THAT WE ARE, UH, WE HAVE EXHIBITED HOW MUCH WE CARE AND THAT WE DO CARE A PIECE OF PAPER THAT MIGHT, IT, IT MIGHT NOT PLAY WELL AND EITHER, SO I, I, I'D RATHER NOT TAKE THAT CHANCE.
I'D RATHER THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE DONE A GREAT JOB IN ORGANIZING PEOPLE.
YOU'VE, UM, AND YOU'VE BEEN PASSIONATE.
AND WE, WE WANNA SEE THIS STUDY HAPPEN.
WE WOULD LIKE TO ALL HAVE, UM, A CLEAR IDEA OF WHAT THE IMPACTS ARE.
AND WE HOPE THAT THE, UM, THE GROUP IN EDGEMONT, THE E I C AND, AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED THE PETITION IN GOOD FAITH, UM, IN THEIR GOOD FAITH, UM, WOULD BE MOST INTERESTED IN LEARNING THE IMPACTS AS MY FELLOW COUNCIL PEOPLE HAVE SAID ALREADY.
UM, AND, AND REALLY WILL AGREE WITH US THAT IT'S A GOOD THING TO WAIT BECAUSE IT JUST, IT IS THE MOST LOGICAL.
HAS THE PETITION THAT YOU HAD LAST TIME, HAS THAT NOW BEEN DELIVERED TO ANDREW STEWART, COUSINS MARY JANE SIMMS AND AMY POLAND? IT IS BEING SHIPPED AS WE SPEAK.
AND EVEN THOUGH I AM JUST A TOWN CLERK, I'M ALSO A SOPHISTICATED POLITICIAN.
AND IN RESPONSE TO ELLEN HENDRICKS QUESTION, WHY A RESOLUTION? A RESOLUTION IS A COMMITMENT, I THINK WE'RE COMMITTED.
I THINK WE ARE, A RESOLUTION IS A COMMITMENT BECAUSE IT IS IN WRITING.
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REACH OUT TO ALL THREE REPRESENTATIVES.I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE, YOU KNOW, AND SEPARATELY FROM OUR DISCUSSION ON THE MORATORIUM, I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? IF IT'S OKAY WITH US, WHEN HAVE WE EVER BEEN ABLE TO, TO TELL YOU TO DO OR NOT TO DO SOMETHING PARTICULARLY SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT? IF IT'S OKAY WITH US, AS IF WE WOULD TELL YOU NOT TO DO THAT? BECAUSE, BECAUSE I'M, I'M SUGGESTING AT A PUBLIC TOWN BOARD MEETING, AT A WORK SESSION, WE HAVE ANDREA, AMY, UM, AND, UH, MARY JANE AT THE MEETING, WE INVITE, UH, JEFF SHERWIN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE LEADERSHIP OF THE EDGE RUN CORPORATION, UM, WE INVITE THE, UH, SAVE GREENBERG, UH, GROUP, AND WE SAY, LISTEN, LET'S SIT DOWN, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE STUDY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TOLD WAS GONNA HAPPEN, AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PARAMETERS OF TIME, UH, THE, THE CHARGE OF THAT.
AND THEN LET'S SEE IF WE COULD GET EVERYBODY TO AGREE.
UM, AT THE SAME TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO MORE, IF, ASSUMING THERE'S NO MORATORIUM APPROVED BY ALBANY, UH, LET'S SEE IF WE COULD GET A VOLUNTARY COMMITMENT, UM, UH, FROM THE EDGEMONT INCORPORATION PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD, UH, HOLD OFF AND THEY, WE WOULD HAVE A TIME PERIOD, A FINITE TIME WHEN THE STUDY WOULD BE DONE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE SAYING IT'S GONNA BE LIKE A SIX MONTH STUDY, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE MAXIMUM TIME MORATORIUM WOULD BE FOR SIX MONTHS.
SO IT'S NOT, THEY CAN'T SAY, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS JUST A DELAYING TACTIC.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD THEN, YEAH, WE WOULD SIT DOWN IN A ROOM.
AND, UM, AND IF IT'S JUST A STUDY, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SEE WHY, UM, WHY THERE'D BE A LOT OF DISAGREEMENTS ON THE STUDY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT EVERYBODY WANTS TO GET THE ANSWERS.
WE FIRST HAVE TO CONFIRM WHETHER THERE'S MONEY FOR THE STUDY OR NOT, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THAT IS IN QUESTION.
I, I BELIEVE PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY PROBABLY APPROVED IT BECAUSE, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY'VE DONE MORE THAN APPROVED IT.
THEY NEED TO DECIDE WHICH DEPARTMENT IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING THIS STUDY, BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION THERE.
THE, THE STUDY CAN'T JUST BE MONIES AVAILABLE.
IT ACTUALLY HAS TO GET A KICKSTART.
AND I, I THINK THAT'S WHERE OUR EFFORTS SHOULD BE.
WELL ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO, FOR EXAMPLE, SAY WHEN WE DID DO THE STUDY, WE DIDN'T EARMARK A STUDY IN THE BUDGET.
WE HAD FUNDS IN OUR CONTINGENCY, AND WE SAID, IF WE WANT TO DO A STUDY, WE WOULD TAKE IT FROM THE CONTINGENCY.
SO MAYBE THE STUDY THAT ANDREA, UM, YOU KNOW, HAVE FUNDED, MAYBE IT'S HIDDEN IN, IN THE BUDGET THAT THEY COULD USE IF THEY DECIDE THAT THEY WANT TO DO THE STUDY.
SO IT MAY NOT BE, UH, A LINE ITEM, YOU KNOW, EDGEMONT, BUT IT MAY BE THAT IF SHE FEELS THAT EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT, THAT THE STUDY, YOU KNOW, MAKES SENSE THAT THEY'LL COME UP WITH THE MONEY AND, AND, AND THEY'LL FUND IT.
NOW, THEY'LL COME UP WITH THE MONEY.
NOW THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER I'M VERY GOOD AT, I'M VERY GOOD AT HEARING.
MAYBE THEY'LL COME UP WITH, THE MONEY IS DIFFERENT THAN THERE'S MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THE STUDY, RIGHT? MAYBE THEY'LL COME UP WITH THE MONEY WE'VE NEED, WE NEED, BASED ON THE EMAIL THAT YOU DIDN'T SHARE WITH US, WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE'S MONEY FOR A STUDY, OR FRANKLY, ARE WE JUST BEING PLAYED ALONG IF THERE'S NO MONEY IN THAT STUDY? AND, AND IF THERE'S NOT A KICKSTART TO HAVING THAT MONEY BEING USED, THEN WE'RE JUST BEING PLAYED.
AND, AND I WILL TAKE SERIOUS RESENTMENT IF THAT'S THE CASE.
AND I WOULD HOPE IN THE FUTURE IF YOU GET SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU SHARE IT WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD.
BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY COMMUNICATE WITH OUR, OUR, OUR ALBANY OFFICIALS AND HAVE SOME MEANINGFUL DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM.
AND, AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HURDLES ARE BY HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS ONE-ON-ONE, SOME AT LENGTH.
UM, AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO BELIEVE THAT I'M NOT BEING MISLED OR NAIVE, AND I JUST WANNA SAY FOR THE RECORD THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THE SENATOR WOULD MISLEAD US, I DON'T THINK IN SUCH A WAY.
I DON'T THINK, I DON'T THINK SO EITHER, BECAUSE THE WAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW SUGGESTS THAT WE MIGHT THINK THAT SHE WOULD, AND I JUST DON'T THINK THAT SHE WOULD, YOU KNOW, I, I, I HAVE A VERY HARD TIME BELIEVING THAT.
UH, BUT NOW WE HAVE EMAILS GOING AROUND AND WE JUST NEED TO GET IT STRAIGHTENED OUT.
DID YOU SEE THE ONE THAT I FORWARDED TO YOU? I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE, YEAH, I CHECKED.
ALRIGHT, SO OUR 50, WHAT WAS THIS SCHEDULE FOR? THIS WAS, SO WHAT WE, WHERE ARE WE NOW? DONE? BAMBOO PLANS.
I MEAN, I YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH, KAREN, DR.
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AND BASE OF BAMBOO.IS AARON HERE? I CAN PRESENT IT IF HE'S NOT.
UH, HE'S ON, HE'S, HE'S ON, UH, ZOOM.
SO WHAT WAS THE RESULT? WHAT WAS CHECKING, WHAT WAS THE RESOLVE ON THE DISCUSSION THAT WAS JUST HELD? PAUL WAS GOING TO TRY TO GET ALL THE, UH, ALBANY OFFICIALS TOGETHER IN A ROOM, MEET WITH US, BRING IN THE E I C MEMBERS, AND LET US KNOW WHEN THAT'S SET UP.
IF, IF WE FIND OUT IF THERE'S BUDGET THAT ELLEN, FIND OUT IF THERE'S BUDGET FOR THAT STUDY.
WELL, WE'LL FIND THAT OUT VERY QUICK.
FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE RECORD.
AARON SCHMIDT, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
AT THE REQUEST OF SUPERVISOR FEINER BASED, I BELIEVE ON A NUMBER OF RESIDENT CONCERNS AND COMPLAINTS, I'VE PREPARED A DRAFT LOCAL LAW INVOLVING THE REGULATION OF BAMBOO, SPECIFICALLY RUNNING BAMBOO.
RUNNING BAMBOO CAN BE DESTRUCTIVE TO THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT, POTENTIALLY HARMFUL TO HUMAN HEALTH, DESTRUCTIVE TO STRUCTURES, WALLS, DRIVEWAYS, WALKWAYS, AND OTHER IMPROVEMENTS.
ROOTS CAN PUSH THROUGH BRICK WORK, DRAINS, PATIOS, AND EXPLOIT CRACKS OR WEAKNESSES AND CONCRETE.
IN THE PROCESS OF DEVELOPING THE DRAFT LOCAL LAW, OUR OFFICE HAS RESEARCHED OTHER ORDINANCES IN EFFECT PRIMARILY ON LONG ISLANDS, WHERE RUNNING BABU HAS BEEN AN ISSUE FOR OVER A DECADE NOW, INCLUDING THE TOWNS OF SMITHTOWN, OYSTER BAY, BROOKHAVEN, AND HEMPSTEAD, AS WELL AS THE VILLAGES OF BURG AND THE BRANCH AMONG OTHERS.
THE DRAFT LOCAL LAW PROHIBITS THIS TYPE OF VEGETATION FROM BEING PLANTED INTO THE GROUND, AND WITH RESPECT TO EXISTING RUNNING, BAMBOO MAKES IT UNLAWFUL TO PERMIT, CULTIVATE, AND OR ALLOW IT TO BE MAINTAINED IN A MANNER WHERE IT MIGRATES ONTO AN ADJOINING PROPERTY, INCLUDING ANY PUBLIC PROPERTY AND OR ANY TOWN RIGHT OF WAY.
SHOULD RUNNING BAMBOO BE FOUND TO HAVE MIGRATED ONTO, OH, EXCUSE ME.
UH, THERE'S SOMEBODY, UH, WHO, UH, WANTED TO BE PART OF THE ZOOM.
UM, SHOULD I JUST, UH, WHO WANTED TO BE PART OF THE ZOOM? UM, IT SAYS, UH, NO ONE HAD THE COURTESY TO GIMME AN IDEA WHEN THE SUBJECT OF
SO I'VE BEEN HERE SINCE FIVE 30 BY ZOOM.
UH, UH, I'M WATCHING, BUT NOT SEEING, I ASK HIM TO JUST GIVE US THE E WHAT'S THE PERSON'S NAME? LEMME JUST SEE IT DOESN'T HAVE IT HERE.
UM, YEAH, HOLD, I TOOK THAT, UH, I DON'T GET THE LIST ANYMORE OF WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO, UH, TALK ABOUT OR LISTEN TO.
YEAH, IT'S, UM, IT'S, I'LL BRING HIM UP.
SHOULD WE LET AARON CONTINUE? YEAH, GO AHEAD, AARON.
SO I SHOULD TELL HIM THAT HE COULD PARTICIPATE THERE.
HE'S BEEN LISTENING, BUT HE WANTS TO SPEAK.
LET'S, I'M ALMOST THROUGH, UH, WITH THE PRESENTATION.
SHOULD, SHOULD RUNNING BAMBOO BE FOUND TO HAVE MIGRATED ONTO AN ADJACENT PROPERTY, IT WILL BE DEEMED A PUBLIC NUISANCE, AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE WILL BE PROVIDED THE AUTHORITY TO ISSUE A NOTICE OF VIOLATION, WHICH WILL REQUIRE THE PROPERTY OWNER TO REMOVE SUCH PLANTINGS WITHIN 30 DAYS.
VIOLATIONS WILL BE SUBJECT TO FINES BETWEEN 100 $500 PER OFFENSE.
REPEAT OFFENDERS MAY BE SUBJECT TO FINES UP TO $1,000 PER OFFENSE.
WITH RESPECT TO CONTROL, WHICH CAN BE DIFFICULT.
THE DRAFT LOCAL LAW PROVIDES A LINK TO THE AMERICAN BAMBOO SOCIETY WEBSITE, WHICH PROVIDES RECOMMENDATIONS FOR SUCH CONTROL.
SPECIAL THANKS TO COUNCILMAN SHEEN FOR IDENTIFYING THAT THE ORIGINAL LINK WAS BROKEN AND PROVIDING AN UPDATED LINK TO THAT WEBSITE.
THANK YOU ALL, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS OF EITHER BOARD MEMBERS OR ANY OTHERS.
I, I THAT ON THE, UH, YOUR, ON YOUR PROPOSED DRAFT, UH, I JUST, YOU STARTED TO USE WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED TOWN OF GREENBURG, AND I BELIEVE THE BEGINNING OF THE CODE DEFINES TOWN, WHICH WE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER AS THE UNINCORPORATED
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AREA.SO MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT WE START PUTTING IT IN SOME PLACES AND NOT OTHERS.
WHEN THEY SEE JUST TOWN, THEY MIGHT SAY THAT'S AMBIGUOUS.
I, I THOUGHT YOU DID A NICE JOB.
UH, MR. AFTER, UH, DOES BOB WANNA SAY ANYTHING? YEAH.
UM, WHAT I'VE HEARD IS VERY ENCOURAGING, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, THE DRAFT.
I MEAN, YOU DESCRIBED IT VERY WELL.
I HAVE BAMBOO FROM A NEIGHBOR THAT IS NOW IN 20 FEET INTO MY PROPERTY AND COMING UP THROUGH MY DRIVEWAY.
UM, AND MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, UH, HIS, HE HAS A FOREST OF BAMBOO THAT IS PROBABLY 30 FEET TALL.
UH, AND EVERY YEAR, UH, IT JUST KEEPS COMING UP.
AND PAUL, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE, UH, BROUGHT TO THE MEETING WHAT I LEFT LAST WEEK, BUT BAMBOO TENDS TO GROW.
UH, AND AARON, YOU CAN CONFIRM THIS.
I BELIEVE SOMETIMES IT CAN GROW A, A FOOT AT NIGHT.
SHOULD I JUST GO OUT AND BRING IT? THOSE, THOSE STALKS GREW IN A MATTER OF LESS THAN A WEEK.
AND, UH, I'M, I'M VERY ENCOURAGED BY, UH, WHAT YOU PROPOSE, AND I HOPE THAT YOU'LL PASS THIS LEGISLATION AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, ENFORCE IT.
DID YOU SEND US PICTURES? I HAVE SENT PICTURES TO THE LAST NINE MONTHS, YES.
I, I, I RE I RECALL, AND THEY SEEM TO COME UP VERY EVENLY.
I DON'T KNOW HOW IT DOES THAT, HOW THE CHUTES ARE THE SAME DISTANCE FROM THE FENCE, BUT SPREAD OUT ALMOST LIKE THEY WERE PLANTED THAT WAY.
UH, THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE WHAT IS CALLED, I THINK IT'S A RHIZOME, IF I'M PRONOUNCING IT RIGHT.
AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY ARE, UH, FAIRLY DEEP UNDERGROUND AND, UH, UNLESS STOPPED, THEY'LL, IT'LL JUST CONTINUE TO, UH, CONTINUE TO SPREAD.
AND I THINK I'M RIGHT, RIGHT NOW.
UH, OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE WITH THESE.
I, I DO RECALL WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE A COMMISSIONER OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND PLANNING, UH, THE ZONING BOARD ASKED THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, UH, UH, REGARDING BAMBOO, AND HE DEEMED IT TO BE AN EVERGREEN.
SO WE DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE GRANDFATHERED IN UNDER THAT, UNDER THAT, UH, INTERPRETATION.
BUT I THINK THIS LAW WILL ADDRESS IT.
AND IT'S, UH, DESPERATELY NEEDED, UH, TO POINT OUT NO ONE'S BEING STOPPED FROM PLANTING BAMBOO ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.
THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE AN EFFECT OF MEANS OF PREVENTING IT FROM GOING ON TO THE NEXT PROPERTY, WHICH IS VERY DIFFICULT TO DO FROM, I UNDERSTAND YOU HAVE TO GO DOWN FOUR FEET OR SO IN ORDER TO HAVE SOME ASSURANCE THAT YOU'RE NOT SHARING YOUR BAMBOO WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.
AND WHETHER OR NOT SOMEBODY'S WILLING TO GO TO THAT EXPENSE TO PUT IN A, YOU KNOW, A BARRIER THAT WILL NOT LET THE, THE CHUTES GO ACROSS.
UH, THEY MIGHT JUST DECIDE MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE TO PLANT.
I, AND I APPRECIATE YOU SPEAKING ABOUT THIS, AND WE, UH, WE, UM, WE'LL BE OBVIOUSLY PUTTING THIS ON A TOWN BOARD AGENDA IN ORDER TO ADOPT IT.
WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY APPROVALS, WE'RE JUST INTRODUCING IT.
UH, AND I'M SURE THAT, UH, AARON SCHMIDT WILL INFORM YOU WHEN THAT IS GOING TO ACTUALLY BE ON THE AGENDA AND GET APPROVED.
WOULD WE BE PUTTING THIS ON FOR THE, UH, FOR TO, ARE WE GONNA SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SOMETIME IN JUNE ON THIS? SO, SO ON THE 14TH, WE CAN SCHEDULE THE, UH, PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE 28TH? CORRECT.
ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO, UM, IT BE A PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
WHAT'S THAT? A PUBLIC HEARING ON, ON PUBLIC HEARING JUNE 28TH.
AND THEN IF YOU WERE TO CLOSE THE HEARING THAT NIGHT, YOU COULD VOTE AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
SO IT'S NOT INSTANTANEOUS, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO RECOGNIZE JOHN MOORE FOR, UH, ADVOCATING FOR THIS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN EMAILING AND EMAILING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ALSO WAS A FACTOR IN NOT GETTING LEGISLATION IN INTRODUCED.
SO, IS THERE ANY CHANGE? SO SHOULD WE, UM, WELL, I GUESS WE SHOULD WAIT UNTIL WE SCHEDULE THE
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PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE WE POST IT.I, I BELIEVE I'LL HAVE SOME VERY MINOR RECOMMENDATIONS.
I THINK AARON DID AN UNBELIEVABLE JOB PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
BUT JUST A FEW THINGS I THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE BEFORE OFFICIALLY GETTING IT ON YOUR DESKS AGAIN, AND THEN NOTICING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, NEXT, UH, WE JUST HAVE THE AGENDA REVIEW.
UM, FRANCIS, I THINK I, UH, CHRIS SENT YOU FOR THE PRESENTATIONS.
UH, WE HAD, UM, INTRODUCING THE NEW SNOW ANGELS AND, UH, THE FORMER SNOW, SNOW ANGELS.
AND THERE WAS ONE OTHER, UM, SNOW ANGELS.
YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE SNOW, THE HEAD OF THE SNOW ANGELS, UM, GOING COLLEGE.
DO YOU HAVE THE NAMES? YEAH, I, WE SENT YOU THE NAMES.
WHEN DID YOU DO THAT? WHEN? I DIDN'T SEE THAT, I THINK, UM, THIS AFTERNOON.
IS THAT IT? AND THEN THERE WAS ONE OTHER, SHE SAID THAT, UM, HOW MANY NAMES DO YOU THINK THERE ARE? UH, FOR THE SNOW ANGELS? THERE WERE, THERE'S THREE NEW COORDINATORS.
AND, UM, ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, PERSON WHO IS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, MOVING ON.
I'M JUST TRYING TO, FOR GUESSTIMATE TIME BECAUSE I'M, I'M SAYING ALL THIS SHOULD BE NO MAXIMUM 10 MINUTES, PROBABLY FIVE MINUTES.
SO WHAT ARE YOU THEY'RE PRESENTING? YEAH, THEY'RE JUST SAYING, UH, WE'RE JUST STARTING.
THEY'RE GONNA BE THE NEW SNOW ANGELS.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE TOWN AND HELPING SENIOR CITIZENS.
THANK YOU FOR THEIR SERVICE AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE EVEN HAVE, IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN SUMMER YET.
WE ALREADY TALKING ABOUT SNOW.
JUDITH, YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE'S ALSO, UM, FROM WOODLANDS HIGH SCHOOL, THERE'S SOME STUDENTS, UH, THERE'S A VERY BRIEF, LIKE A 10 MINUTE PRESENTA, FIVE, 10 MINUTE PRESENTATION ON THAT.
UM, THERE ARE, UH, WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM STUDENTS BY STUDENTS FROM WOODLANDS HIGH SCHOOL, GREENBURG CENTRAL SEVEN SCHOOL DISTRICT, WHO WILL BE PRESENTING TO THE BOARD, UM, THEIR, UH, IDEAS FOR, UM, PROPOSALS FOR, UM, FUNDING PROJECTS IN THE TOWN.
SO I THINK YOU'LL FIND IT VERY INTERESTING COMING FROM STUDENTS.
UM, HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE THERE? SEVENTH GRADE, EIGHTH GRADE CLASS? HOW MANY STUDENTS ARE THERE? NOT SURE HOW MANY, BUT WE LET THEM KNOW THAT THE PRESENTATION CANNOT GO BEYOND, UM, 10 MINUTES, 15 MINUTES FOR ENTIRELY, NOT EACH.
AND YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY THERE ARE? I'M NOT SURE EXACTLY HOW MANY.
UM, BUT YOU, YOU HAVE NAMES YOU WANT ON THE AGENDA.
IT WILL BE, UM, ABOUT 15 MINUTES.
AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE THEIR NAMES, I'LL FORWARD THAT TO YOU TOMORROW.
SO, SO WE HAVE WATER GUARDIAN FOUNDATION, SNOW ANGELS, AND FROM WOODLANDS.
SO THAT'S 30 MINUTES, RIGHT? OR LESS OR LESS.
WE, FOR THE CAPITAL BUDGET, WE, IT SAYS WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING.
UM, YOU KNOW, UH, RICH HAS MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GETTING VERY LATE IN THE SEASON.
IS THERE A CHANCE WE COULD, UM, CLOSE THE HEARING TOMORROW AND, UH, HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING NEXT TUESDAY? NO, NO, NO.
IF, IF JOAN IS BACK NEXT WEEK, YES, WE CAN HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
BUT THIS IS, IT'S, IT'S THINGS WERE JUST ADDED TO THE A YOU KNOW, I SAID THAT I WOULD FILL IN FOR JOAN WHILE SHE'S OUT.
AS LONG AS WHATEVER GETS PUT IN ON WEDNESDAY AT NOON IS WEDNESDAY AT NOON.
THIS AGENDA LOOKS NOTHING LIKE WHAT WAS SUBMITTED AT WEDNESDAY.
UH, WEDNESDAY AT NOON YOU ADDED A BUNCH OF THINGS.
UH, SPECIAL MEETINGS TAKE TIME TO SET UP.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT GOES ON BY THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
IF YOU DO, YOU CAN, BUT I'LL HOLD IT OVER BECAUSE IT'S, NO, I'M NOT, I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, RICH IS MENTIONING, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A PAVING SEASON AND CURVING SEASON AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO MUCH.
'CAUSE THE BY TIME THE THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS APPROVED, IT WILL BE THE END OF, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN,
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AND YOU START DOING THE BONDING, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY, VERY LATE.SO, WELL, THE REASON WHY YOU HELD IT OVER, UH, ERIC ZINGER HAD A QUESTION, HE COULDN'T MAKE IT LAST TIME.
AND THAT IS, IS THE TOWN ACTUALLY, UM, FOOTING THE BILL FOR ABOUT A QUARTER A MILLION DOLLARS TO RAISE THE HOUSES IN BABA COURT? THAT WAS NOT, NOT MY UNDERSTANDING.
I THOUGHT WE WERE PUTTING MONEY UP FRONT BECAUSE YOU, THEY HAD THERE, IT WAS REIMBURSING, BUT IT WASN'T MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE SPENDING THAT MONEY TO RAISE THE HOMES OF PRIVATE HOMES WITH TAXPAYER MONEY.
AND IS ANY OF THAT AMOUNT IN KIND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A SOMETIMES WELL, THAT'S THE POINT, RIGHT? ACCORDING TO THE WAY THE, THE, UH, CAPITAL BUDGET WENT OUT, IT DOESN'T DISTINGUISH.
BUT I, I'D LIKE CLARIFICATION ON THAT.
BUT I SHOULD ALSO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, UM, IF YOU REMEMBER LAST YEAR, THERE WAS ONE OF THE RESIDENTS, UH, FROM OF COURSE, IDA, YOU KNOW, SHOWED UP AND SHE WAS IN TEARS AND ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY.
WE ALL SAID WE WANTED TO HELP OUT.
WE SPENT, UH, YOU KNOW, BRIAN SIMMONS MUST HAVE SPENT, AND KRISTA, THEY MUST HAVE SPENT, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF HOURS, YOU KNOW, APPLYING FOR THE GRANT.
SO IF WE APPLY FOR THE GRANT AND THAT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T SAY, OH, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE ARE NOT GONNA KEEP OUR END OF THE BARGAIN.
WELL, JUST, THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
THIS IS, WHERE DID THAT COME FROM? RIGHT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT WE HAD A 10%, THERE WAS A 10% MATCH, BUT WE WERE APPLYING FOR GRANTS TO COVER THE 10% MATCH.
IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW.
IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THAT'S THE CASE BASED ON THE WORDING IN, IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
WE NEED, WELL, WE NEED OUR ANSWERS TOMORROW TO WHAT THAT IS, IS WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVE TO PUT IT UP, WHICH IS TOTALLY REASONABLE.
YOU CAN'T EXPECT THE, UH, INDIVIDUAL HOMEOWNERS TO PUT UP THE MONEY IN ADVANCE.
FEMA WILL ONLY REIMBURSE AFTERWARDS.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU THE MONEY UP FRONT AND HOPE YOU BUILD.
SO SHOULD WE ASK BRIAN OR RICH TO GET ON THE ZOOM NOW? BECAUSE THEY COULD PROBABLY ANSWER.
BRIAN WAS THE PERSON WHO WAS, UM, WHO WORK, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY ON THIS, YOU KNOW, WITH KRISTA.
RIGHT? THEY'RE NOT ON ZOOM RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S WHAT THE HEARING IS ABOUT TOMORROW.
AND SO WE HAVE, UH, THE LEAF BLOWER.
SEE, IT'S VERY CONFUSING 'CAUSE WE HAVE TWO LOCAL LAWS REGARDING LEAF BLOWERS.
SO WHY DON'T YOU, DON'T YOU WANNA GIVE A CLEAR EXPLANATION OF WHAT THIS WAS, SO WE UNDERSTAND MM-HMM.
THIS, THIS IS THE LAW THAT'S UP FOR PUBLIC HEARING TOMORROW NIGHT WAS DRAFTED BY THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL, AND THEY MADE THE PRESENTATION AT THE LAST MEETING.
AND THEY ARE SEEKING A TWO MONTH BAN FROM MIDDLE OF JUNE TO MIDDLE, MIDDLE OF AUGUST FOR ALL LEAF BLOWERS.
BUT IT'S FOR THIS JUNE ONLY SINCE THERE'S A SUNSET PROVISION AND THE LAW WOULD EXPIRE AFTER A ONE YEAR TERM.
YOU MEAN THIS JUNE TO AUGUST? JUNE 15TH.
I AM JUST WONDERING HOW WE FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT THE OTHER LAW IS WORKING WHEN WE'RE DOING, AND IN OTHER WORDS, WE'RE WE'RE GONNA HAVE MULTIPLE VARIABLES.
WELL, THE, THE BIG ISSUE THAT I SEE IS FROM LISTENING TO THE CHIEF, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE HOUR, AN HOUR AGO.
SO HE SAID, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY GONNA ONLY BE ENFORCED WHEN PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, COMPLAIN.
UM, SO IF WE HAVE A BAN, A TWO MONTH BAN, AND THE POLICE ARE NOT GONNA BE, OR YOU KNOW, THE, WE DON'T HAVE CODE ENFORCERS OR BUILDING WEAPONS, NOBODY'S GOING OUT, YOU KNOW, REACHING OUT AND SAYING, OH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE VIOLATE, YOU'RE VIOLATING THE LAW, THEN IT'S BASICALLY GONNA BE NOT, I MEAN, EVERYBODY'S SAYING IT'S NOT GONNA REALLY BE AN ENFORCED LAW BECAUSE IF THE ONLY WAY IT'S ENFORCED IS SOMEBODY COMPLAINS ABOUT THEIR NEIGHBOR.
BUT, BUT I THINK WE DO RECEIVE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CORRESPONDENCE FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHAPPY WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS, WITH, WITH THE BLOWER.
SO I THINK THAT ONCE THE CHIEF AND OTHER POLICE SEE A REPEATED OFFENDER THAT THEY COULD TAKE ACTION.
I THINK THAT THAT'S WHAT HE SAID EARLIER.
UM, I ALSO THINK, I THINK IT'S ENFORCEABLE ALSO.
I I ALSO THINK THAT IF WE DO HAVE TWO MONTHS WHERE BLOWERS ARE, UH, FOR FORBIDDEN, AND THEN WHEN THAT LAW OF SUNSETS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S ALL THIS NOISE, PEOPLE WILL BE EMBOLDENED, UM, TO REPORT IT.
BECAUSE THEY WILL HAVE GONE FROM A PERIOD OF RELATIVE QUIET TO A PERIOD OF, OF NOT SO RELATIVE QUIET ANY LONGER.
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UM, AND THEY'LL TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE NEW DECIBEL LAW BY CALLING AND REPORTING IT.SO IT, WHILE THERE WILL BE MULTIPLE VARIABLES IN PLACE INITIALLY, I THINK THAT MIGHT HELP THE EFFORT TO GET PEOPLE TO TRY AND HAVE THE, UH, DECIBEL LAW ENFORCED AFTER THE TWO MONTH, UM, BAN IS OVER.
I, I JUST HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, EVERYBODY KNOWS WE ALL WANT TO DO SOMETHING.
THE ISSUE, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL WE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD DO SOMETHING.
THE, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE REALLY UPSET WITH, YOU KNOW, GOVERNMENT TELLING THEM WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN'T DO ON THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY UPSET BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TAKE THE NOISE.
THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, GOING CRAZY.
THEY CAN'T WORK, THEY CAN'T CONCENTRATE.
UM, AND THEN, SO THE WORRY THAT I HAVE IS THAT IF WE HAVE A, A TOLL BAN, UM, WHAT I'M THINKING IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA FORCE IT.
I'M JUST GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BLOW THE, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA GET CAUGHT.
SO IT'S NOT, SO THEY'RE GOING TO TREAT THIS WHOLE THING AS A JOKE BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA KNOW THAT THEY COULD GET AWAY WITH IT.
ON ANOTHER HAND, IF WE THOUGHT, IF WE HAD DONE SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE INCREMENTAL, SAY WE TAKE THREE DAYS A WEEK AND WE SAY NO LEAF BLOWERS, JUST ON THOSE THREE DAYS AND ON THE REST OF THE WEEK, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD, YOU COULD USE IT.
I THINK THAT THERE'S A, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I REALLY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT GOVERNMENT IS TELLING ME WHAT I CAN OR CAN'T DO.
HOWEVER, UH, I WANT TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR AND IF I CAN'T USE A LEAFBLOWER ON SATURDAY, YOU KNOW, ON THE DAYS THAT I CAN'T USE IT, I'LL, I'LL GO ALONG WITH THE LAW AND I'LL DO MY LEAF FLOWING WHEN, WHEN I CAN.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND THIS WAY I'M A GOOD, A GOOD CITIZEN COMPLIANCE WITH THE LAW.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER TO BE ENFORCED AND BE EASY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT AS BURDENSOME.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD PUT UP, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGNAGE.
WE COULD HAVE SOME OF THE STUDENT INTERNS WORK ON, YOU KNOW, THE SUMMER ON EDUCATING AND ENFORCING.
'CAUSE WE, I THINK I HAVE ABOUT PROBABLY AT LEAST 30 OR 40 STUDENTS AND THEY'RE REALLY SMART.
THEY'RE FROM ALL THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND COLLEGE IN GREENBERG AND FROM, YOU KNOW, THE COLLEGES, WE COULD SAY YOUR JOB THIS SUMMER IS TO EDUCATE.
THEY, THEY DID THIS A COUPLE YEARS AGO ON, UM, ON, ON ORGANIC FOOD COMPOSTING WAY BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ANY OTHER COMMUNITY DID IT.
THEY, WE DID AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN THAT THE STUDENTS RUN, UM, AT VETERAN PARK.
AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS IS A REAL MAJOR EDUCATION EFFORT AND IT, IT IS SORT OF LIKE RECYCLING, YOU KNOW, IT PROBABLY TOOK 30 YEARS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, REALLY CAUGHT ON.
WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, PAUL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT HISTORY OF, UM, COMPOSTING.
I JUST WANTED TO, JUST IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, UM, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE AGENDA THAT WE NEED TO JUST CONTINUE TO REVIEW.
SO IS THERE ANY MORE CHANGES TO THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE ARE BEHIND SCHEDULE.
IS THERE ANY MORE, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAD TO CONTINUE TO, THE ONLY ISSUE IT'S, IT'S AN ONGOING ONE, IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF KRISTA COULD GIVE ME WHO'S HAD THE TRAINING AND BEEN INTERVIEWED NOW, SHE SAID SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHO'S BEEN INTERVIEWED, JUST WHO'S BEEN INVITED.
SO WE'D HAVE TO COLLABORATE ON THAT.
UH, BUT ON THE AGENDA IT SAYS, UH, FOR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS TO BE INCLUDED, FOLLOWING CONFIRMATION THAT APPOINTEES HAVE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE SEXUAL HARASS HARASSMENT PREVENTION AND CODE OF ETHICS TRAININGS.
UM, WE NEED TO KNOW WHO THEY ARE.
CAN I ASK YOU ONE QUESTION I HAVE AND THAT COULD WE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, AS A BOARD, WE'VE ALL AGREED THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO, UM, COMPLETE BOTH TRAINING THINGS.
I KNOW THAT COULD WE, UM, MAKE THE APPOINTMENTS AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, PROVE IT CONDITIONAL AND MAKE IT CONDITIONAL ON, UM, UM, UM, SENDING THE, UH, TOWN ATTORNEY, UM, UM, WHO'S TRACKING THAT? NO, I'M, I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS RIGHT NOW, NO, I JUST, NO, I'M NOT.
WHO'S TRACKING THAT? WE'RE WE'RE TRACKING IT BY NOT PUTTING IT ON UNTIL THEY DO.
NO, BUT I'M SAYING COULD WE, I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S THE STUFF, THAT'S MY POINT.
SO IF WE GO FORWARD, WHO'S GONNA BE ABLE TO TRACK THIS? WHO'S GONNA BE ABLE TO FOLLOW UP UP SOMEBODY? MARGARET GOLDBERG, YOU KNOW, ED NEEDS SOMEBODY ON THE BOARD OF ASSESSMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE STARTING THE, THE, YOU KNOW, SHE, YOU KNOW, SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, SHE'S BASICALLY YOU IN NEED.
I KNOW THAT, UH, I'M SURE MARGARET WILL TAKE THE TRAININGS.
THE TRAININGS, THE TRAINING, SHE ALREADY TOOK ONE OF THEM.
IT'S NOT, YES, SHE'S BEEN INTERVIEWED, SO SHE, SHE JUST NEEDS TO HAVE THE TRAINING.
SHE AND SHE DID TAKE ONE OF THEM.
TODAY, BUT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE OTHER.
DO YOU KNOW WHICH TRAINING IT WAS BY CHANCE? MAYBE BECAUSE JOE, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
I DON'T, I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA BELABOR THE POINT.
THE ONLY WAY WE MAKE SURE IT'S ENFORCED
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IS WE DON'T PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR APPOINTMENT UNTIL WE KNOW THEY HAVE THE TRAINING.THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO GUESS, OH, YOU'RE SHOWING UP AT THIS, BUT YOU DIDN'T FINISH THE TRAINING.
OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S CONDITIONAL.
SO YOU'RE NOT REALLY A MEMBER.
IF WE CAN JUST GET THAT, WHAT GOOD IS IT IN THE MORNING? WE JUST, WE JUST NEED FOR WHAT THAT IS.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I ASKED BECAUSE THE WHOLE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THING WAS MESSED UP FOR QUITE, QUITE A LONG TIME AND OKAY.
THAT, THAT'S, IS THAT EVERYTHING CHRIS STRAIGHTENED DOWN? UM, JUST ON, ON THE, ON TB THREE, I THINK THAT'S AO 7, 2 0 8 AND S O 6 8 9 3.
ALRIGHT, SO WE'LL CONFIRMED THOSE NUMBERS.
SO WHICH, WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS? A OH 7 2 0 8 AND S O 8 8 9 3.
I GUESS THAT THE O IS THE, I'M NOT SURE.
I STARTED TO TRY LOOK FOR THAT TO CLARIFY BEFORE, BUT, UM, DIDN'T FINISH BECAUSE I HAD TO STAY ENGAGED IN THE CONVERSATION.
SO WE JUST NEED TO, SO WE JUST HAVE TO DOUBLE.
JOE'S LOOKING AT JOEL'S LOOKING ON IT.
UM, CAROL, UM, THERE, THERE IS BUDGET MONEY WE GOT THAT CONFIRMED.
IT'S JUST THE AMOUNT THAT MIGHT BE INACCURATE.
ALAN, THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING.
IS THAT NOT, IS THAT NOT CORRECT? I'M SORRY.
WELL, IT, IT, IT, WE DIDN'T GET A NUMBER DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GET A NUMBER JUST, YOU KNOW, JUST THAT.
BUT IT WAS A QUICK, I WANTED TO GIVE CAROL AND, AND ANYONE ELSE WHO IS LISTENING AN ANSWER OKAY.
ON THAT WOULDN'T, SO THAT'S A CONFIRMATION THAT THE MAS ARE THERE.
SO LET'S, WELL, LET'S GET THE NUMBER RIGHT.
WHAT, UM, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE ON HERE? UM, IT IS E M S WEEK.
UM, SO WE SHOULD MAKE NOTE OF THAT TO THANK OUR, OUR VERY GOOD AND VERY, UM, RENOWNED E M S CREW FOR ALL THE WORK THAT THEY DO AND THEIR SUCCESSES.
WE CAN ASK, UM, WE CAN REACH OUT TO, TO JARED.
TALK TO JARED WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS.
THEY'RE MORE INTERESTED IN GETTING OUT ON THE AMBULANCE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER CHANGES? NO.
WAS THERE SOMEBODY ELSE WHO DIED? I KNOW, I REMEMBER, I REMEMBER ED MARIN, YOU KNOW, BUT THE, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A PAUL, DO YOU KNOW IF THERE WAS SOMEONE ELSE THAT UM, PASSED? ED MARIN I KNOW PASSED.
ED MARIN WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT I RECALL.
I NEED TO GET WHAT YEARS HE WORKED FOR THE TOWN.
PAUL, COULD YOU HAVE THAT, DOUG? YEAH, I'LL SEE IF I CAN GIVE THAT.
SINCE WE'RE GONNA SEE EVERYBODY SOON, UM, I'M GOOD.
I'D LIKE TO, UM, UM, UH, HAVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.