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UH, WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD MEETING.
UH, TODAY IS, UH, MAY 30TH, UH, UM, AND IT'S, UH, THE WORK SESSION, UH, MEETING.
AND IT'S, UH, FIVE 20, UH, TWO.
UH, THE FIRST, UM, ITEM FOR THE OPEN MEETING IS, UM, THE EDUCATION CAMPAIGN RELATING TO, UH, THE LEAF LOWER LAW.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID PASS, UM, ALL LAW A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, AND WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER, UM, UH, SUMMER, UH, LAW.
AND I'M, UM, WONDERING IF, UM, THE BOARD WOULD HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS AS TO HOW WE COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, MARKET IT.
I THOUGHT THAT WE SHOULD USE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, WE POSTED INFORMATION ON THE WEBSITE, BUT MOST PEOPLE DON'T LOOK AT THE WEBSITE.
AND, UM, I THOUGHT WE SHOULD DO WHAT SCARSDALE DID AND, UM, AND USE THE DIGITAL, UH, BOARDS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, TO, WITH, WITH, UH, MESSAGES.
AND I WAS GONNA RE-ASK OUR RESIDENTS, UM, IF THEY COULD COME UP WITH CATCHY, UH, UH, ENCOURAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, ONE-LINERS THAT WE COULD POST DURING THE, UH, THE COMING MONTHS JUST TO GET PEOPLE TO VOLUNTARILY, YOU KNOW, COMPLY BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF INDICATED THAT THIS IS GONNA BE A LAW THAT IS GONNA BE ENFORCED ON THE BASIS OF COMPLAINTS RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, POLICE AREN'T GONNA BE GOING OUT.
AND IF THEY SEE A, A LEAK BLOWER, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ISSUING SUMMONSES UNLESS, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY FILED A COMPLAINT BEFORE.
SO A LOT OF THIS IS REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, VOLUNTARY RATHER THAN, UM, RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, STRICT ENFORCEMENT.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST ASKING THE BOARD, UM, IF WE COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE AVAILABLE TO DIGITAL BOARDS AND POST 'EM ALL OVER THE TOWN.
HOW MANY
THE CHIEF HAD MENTIONED THAT HE IS NOT IN FAVOR OF DIGITAL BOARDS BEING USED FOR ANY LENGTH OF MESSAGE BECAUSE HE WANTS PEOPLE TO CONCENTRATE ON DRIVING AS OPPOSED TO READING MESSAGES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
THE, THE, I THOUGHT I WAS THE, THE, THE QUESTION IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T USE DIGITAL BOARDS, BASICALLY IT'S A WORTHLESS LAW BECAUSE NO, IT'S NOT.
YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL TO THE, TO EVERYBODY ON THE, AND THEN WE CAN SEND POSTCODES, BUT THE EMAIL IS WRONG, WRONG.
IT STILL TALKS ABOUT NO, IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY HAVE TO DISCUSS, I KNOW PAUL, YOU LIKE TO PUT OUT THE, THE ANNOUNCEMENTS RIGHT AWAY, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD PROBABLY DIVIDE UP WHO'S SENDING WHAT ANNOUNCEMENTS BECAUSE, UM, WELL, YOU COULD SEND AN ANY BOARD MEMBER I UNDERSTAND, BUT WHATEVER THEY WANT, BUT YOU PUT OUT ERRONEOUS INFORMATION.
FIRST OF ALL, I, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
YOU PUT OUT ERRONEOUS INFORMATION.
IT WAS POINTED OUT TO YOU SO YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE PASSING.
UH, IT HAS YOU BOTH START RESPECTING PEOPLE INSTEAD OF INSULTING.
I'M SICK OF HEARING CONSTANT NEGATIVITY.
WELL, I'M NOT INTERRUPTING YOU.
YOU CAN SAY WHATEVER YOU WANT LATER, BUT WHAT'S STILL UP ON THE WEBSITE IS DISCUSSION OF YOU CAN'T EXCEED 55 DECIBELS.
WE CLEARLY PASSED, AND ANYONE WHO READ THE LAW KNOWS WE CHANGED 55 DECIBELS TO 75 DECIBELS.
IT WAS POINTED OUT TO YOU, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CORRECT IT, YOU PUT UP THE ACTUAL LAW, BUT LEFT YOUR NARRATIVE OF 55 DECIBELS.
WELL, SO YOU WANNA HAVE AN EDUCATION CAMPAIGN? UH, WE DON'T NEED DISINFORMATION.
FIRST OF ALL, UM, RIGHT AFTER, UM, FIR FIRST OF ALL, I POSTED ON THE WEBSITE BASICALLY WHAT THE LAW WAS, AND, UM, THERE WAS, I THINK, JOE, WE MENTIONED THAT WHEN SOMETHING'S FOR, UH, JOE, YOU MENTIONED WHEN SOMETHING'S CROSSED OUT THAT IT BASICALLY, UM, THERE WAS SOMETHING WRONG WITH OUR, OUR SYSTEM WHERE RIGHT.
NO, I THINK, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PASS A LOCAL LAW, WHEN YOU ARE DELETING SOMETHING FROM THE PREVIOUS LAW, WHEN YOU'RE AMENDING IT, THERE'S A STRIKE THROUGH IN THE LANGUAGE.
I THINK WHEN YOU COPY AND PASTE THE STRIKE THROUGH CANNOT BE SEEN ON OUR WEBSITE.
SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT THAT TEXT STILL IS STILL A PART OF THE LAW THAT'S BEING PASSED.
SO I BASICALLY POSTED, I COPIED AND PASTED BASICALLY WHAT THE LAW WAS THEN, JOE.
SO BASICALLY, UM, SO BASICALLY AFTER, UM, UM, IT WAS POINTED OUT THAT THE, THE SITE DID NOT PICK UP, UM, THE CORRECTION BEN JO SENT ME, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, AND THE CORRECTED, YOU KNOW, VERSION, WHICH I, UM, POSTED ON THE, YOU KNOW, THE WEBSITE.
SO I BASICALLY, BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS SO, SO FORWARD FOR, JUST FOR CLARITY.
SO WE ARE NOT JUST MOVING FORWARD, WHAT'S CURRENTLY
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POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.IS IT JOE? I'M ASKING JOE DANKO.
SO I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE ONE EDIT TO REMOVE SOME OF THE LANGUAGE AT THE TOP.
THE LAW IS COPIED AND PASTED THE LAW.
BUT THERE IS SOME TEXT ON TOP BEFOREHAND SHOULD RIGHT.
PAUL'S UNDERSTANDING OF THE LAW CHANGED, NEEDS TO CHANGE.
SO LET ME, LEMME JUST CORRECT.
SO, PAUL, PAUL, I, I, WE DON'T, I DON'T WANNA, LET'S NOT FIGHT TODAY, PLEASE.
SO WE NEED TO DO, PAUL, WHAT SHOULD HAPPEN GOING NOW IT'S JUST, JUST TO CORRECT THE NARRATIVE SO IT MATCHES WITH THE LAWYER, SO IT'S CORRECT.
SO WE WANT TO, UM, NOBODY WANTS THE DIGITAL BOARDS USED BESIDES ME, RIGHT? WELL, IT'S SAFETY.
WE SAID WE, THE CHIEF SPOKE, THE CHIEF OF POLICE SPOKE TWICE THE SAFETY REASONS.
HE MENTIONED THAT HE PREFERRED NOT TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE WE WANT PEOPLE TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE ROAD AND NOT TRYING TO READ A LONG NARRATIVE AS THEIR DRIVING FOR SAFETY REASON.
COULD I JUST SAY SOMETHING? IS WHAT THE CHIEF OF STATE, THE, THE VILLAGE OF SCARSDALE USES THE DIGITAL BOARDS AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE IT IN FRONT OF THE POLICE STATION.
UH, THEY'VE USED IT IN FRONT OF THE SCARSDALE VILLAGE HALL, UH, VILLAGE POLICE STATION.
AND IT'S BEEN ACTUALLY VERY, VERY EFFECTIVE BECAUSE, UH, LAST YEAR THEY PASSED A VERY STRONG LAW.
AND BASICALLY PEOPLE ARE COMPLYING WITH THE LAW MORE THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES BECAUSE THEY'RE USING BOARDS THAT PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT.
WE HAVE THESE DIGITAL BOARDS ALL OVER THE PLACE ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE RIGHT NOW.
UH, YOU KNOW, DURING THIS, WHEN IT SNOWS, WE SAY CAN'T PARK YOUR CAR ON THE STREET, UH, UH, ON, UM, YOU KNOW, LEY ROAD.
WE, WE'VE HAD DIGITAL BOARDS ALL OVER.
SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO SAY, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T USE IT BECAUSE IT'S DISTRACTING WHEN WE BASICALLY USE IT FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION? WHAT? FOR WHAT HE SAID, WHAT, WHAT HE SAID WAS LONG NARRATIVES AND SAFETY, I'M NOT LOOKING, THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS, IS CAUGHT, IS CONSCIOUS OF THE SAFETY OF OUR RESIDENTS.
THAT'S WHY TWICE HE'S MENTIONED, HE SAYS THAT WE SHOULD NOT BE USING THOSE TYPE OF BOARDS AT THE LAW.
WE WANT OUR RESIDENTS AND ANYONE WHO IS TRAVELING THE ROADS OF GREENBURG TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE AND NOT WONDERING, OH, OKAY, WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS, WHAT ARE THEY TALKING ABOUT? AND THEN SOMETHING HAPPENS.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SAYING NO PARKING OR SLOW IC CONDITIONS OR EXCEEDING THE SPEED LIMIT AND FOLLOW THE NEW LAW, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, TALKING ABOUT, AND THAT, BUT THAT IS A LOT OF VERBIAGE TO, TO READ AND IT IS, IT CAN BE DISTRACTING.
BUT LET, LET ME PLEASE, UM, THANK YOU.
AND I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED, BUT WHAT ELSE IS, UM, SCARS STILL DOING? I, I CAN'T IMAGINE JUST BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE BOARDS, THAT THAT'S THE ONLY MEANS OF NOTIFICATION.
SO SUCH AS, UM, THE, THE COUNCILMAN JONES MENTIONED YOU COULD SEND POSTCARDS, UM, YOU PUT IT, YOU POST IT ON THE WEBSITE, UM, YOU SEND IT OUT TO THE GB LIST.
I THINK THAT THE BETTER PART OF SAFETY IS PERHAPS NOT USING A LENGTHY MESSAGE ON A, ON A BOARD.
LEMME JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING.
WE COULD ALSO PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE.
NO, BUT LEMME JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING.
THERE'S BEEN ARTICLES IN THE ENQUIRER AND THE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THE LEAFBLOWER LAW, UM, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, THE, RIGHT NOW, UH, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, MY EXPERIENCES, UM, MOST COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE LEAFBLOWER LAWS DO NOT ENFORCE IT.
UM, SO I WAS AT THE HASTINGS PARADE IF, UM, AND I WAS SPEAKING TO, UM, A VILLAGE OFFICIAL, AND THEY SAID, YEAH, THEY HAVE A VAN, BUT I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY, IF ANYBODY'S EVER HAD BEEN ISSUED SUMMONSES.
UM, OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY FEW SUMMONS OF SUMMONSES.
IF ANYTHING, THE VILLAGE OF SCARSDALE, UM, HAS A MORE AGGRESSIVE, UM, INITIATIVE.
UM, SO THEY BASICALLY, UM, SO THAT LAW, IN MY OPINION, IT'S NOT PERFECT, BUT I THINK IT'S WORKED BETTER THAN OTHERS.
SO I'M SAYING WE COULD IN TWO WEEKS, SAY LEAF BLOWERS AT THE END DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS.
AND I KNOW, AND YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA USE THE LEAF BLOWERS ANYWAY BECAUSE THEY KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT ENFORCING IT.
AND BASICALLY THEY, THEY KNOW THERE'S NO EDUCATION CAMPAIGN, THERE'S NO EFFORT.
SO PEOPLE ARE GONNA SAY, OH, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GONNA DO WHAT I WANT.
SO ALL I'M SAYING IS IF WE PASS A LAW AND WE WANT TO GIVE IT A TRY, THEN WE HAVE TO TRY EVERYTHING.
YOU KNOW, EVEN IF YOU SEND OUT MAILINGS OR LIKE A POSTCARD, SOME PEOPLE WILL SEE IT, BUT MOST PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, AREN'T REALLY PAYING THAT MUCH ATTENTION.
SO I FEEL THAT ON SOMETHING WHERE YOU'RE CHANGING HABITS, LIKE WHETHER IT'S A SEAT, UH, SEATBELT LAW, YOU KNOW, LAW, UH, RECYCLING INITIATIVE, CHANGING HABITS
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TAKES A LONG TIME, UH, TO GET PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, TO MODIFY THEIR BEHAVIOR.AND I, I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF SOMEBODY'S DRIVING, SAY, NEAR THE TOWN HALL AND, AND THEY SEE SOMETHING SAYING, UM, UH, CALL THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, CALL THIS NUMBER, CALL THIS HOTLINE.
IF, UM, IF THEY'RE, IF YOU, IF THE NOISE IS EXCESSIVE, WELL, OR, OR YOU CAN'T HAVE MULTIPLE, SO YOU WANT US, YOU WANT THEM TO DRIVE, TAKE THE NUMBER DOWN WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING, CALL THE, SO WE CAN CALL THE POLICE.
SO THEY CALL THE, WHAT DID THEY SAY IN SCARSDALE? NO, SCARSDALE, WHAT DID THEY SAY? WHAT DID THE SIGNS ON THESE STREET, WHAT DID THEY SAY? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORDS ARE? NO, UH, NO GAS, UH, BLOWERS.
UH, THEY HAVE A GAS BLOWER BAND.
RIGHT? SO THEY SAY NO GAS BLOWERS LIKE MAY TO SEPTEMBER, WHENEVER THE LAW IS, YOU KNOW, BUT BASICALLY MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE A PICTURE OF IT SO WE CAN SEE.
AND, AND I, I THINK WE REALLY NEED TO KEEP IN MIND WHAT THE, WHAT THE, THE CHIEF SAID, BUT A POSTCARD WITH A QR CODE SO THAT IT TAKES YOU TO THE LAW SO PEOPLE CAN READ IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA.
I THINK LETTERS TO THE EDITOR, SO JUST PRIOR IN, IN ALL THE LOCAL PAPERS MIGHT BE HELPFUL BECAUSE PEOPLE READ THOSE.
AND SO JUST BEFORE THE, THE I I JUST REALLY FEEL THAT IF WE DO SOMETHING, WE SHOULD MAKE A EFFORT TO MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL, NOT JUST SAY ABSOLUTELY NOT, YOU KNOW? AND I, I REALLY FEEL IF WE'RE NOT, IF WE'RE NOT TRYING, THEN IT'S LIKE A, A JOKE AND, UM, AND, AND, BUT WE'RE ALL AGREEING WITH YOU THAT WE SHOULD, SHOULD TRY.
SO THEN WITH YOU, SO THEN, SO, SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
DO WE WANT TO, AFTER THE, UM, AFTER THE BOARD ACTS ON THE SECOND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, PROPOSAL THIS SUMMER AGAIN, DO WE WANT TO, UM, UH, SEND OUT FROM THE TOWN BOARD A POSTCARD TO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY SAYING WE'RE A SHORT SUMMARY OF, UM, WHAT, WHAT WE'RE DOING, AND WE SEND IT TO EVERYBODY IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG, I'M NOT SURE HOW, AND SAY, PLEASE BE ADVISED AND WE COULD GIVE INFORMATION AS TO WHO THEY COULD CALL.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE JOE, IF YOU WANT TO LIKE DRAFT SOMETHING, THEN THE BOARD COULD SIGN OFF ON IT AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD SEND IT OUT.
BUT, BUT I, I REALIZE, AND THAT SAME POSTCARD COULD BE USED AS AN AD IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPERS, AS ALAN SUGGESTED WITH THE QR CODE, YOU KNOW, WITH THE QR CODE MM-HMM.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THEN WE COULD SEND OUT AN EMAIL AGAIN AS IT GETS CLOSER.
UM, AND POST IT SO THAT IT'S A POPUP ON OUR WEBSITE, JUST AFTER WE GET PAST JUNETEENTH MM-HMM.
THAT YOU CAN INFORM, YOU CAN ALSO INFORM RESIDENTS THROUGH THE COUNCIL OF GREENBERG CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS AND, AND DIRECTLY TO THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION PRESIDENTS.
ASK THEM TO PUT IT ON THEIR AGENDA FOR THEIR, UM, UPCOMING THREE MEETINGS OR HOWEVER MANY.
NO, THAT'S, AND WE COULD ALSO PRINT IT ON OUR OWN AGENDA FOR THE TOWN BOARD MEETINGS.
WE COULD PUT IT ON, PUT IT AS A BANNER.
JUST PUT IT AS A BANNERS PUT UNDER HERE MEAN.
IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE NOT KNOCKING ANYTHING.
AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'LL ALSO, UH, CONTACT THE VILLAGE OF SCARSDALE.
WE WILL, WE WILL REACH OUT TO THE POLICE CHIEF AND ASK IF, UH, THE DIGITAL BOARDS, IF THEY COULD SEND US COPIES OF THE DIGITAL BOARDS IF THEY'RE STILL USING IT.
I KNOW THEY USED IT A LOT LAST YEAR.
I, I, I THINK I, NO, BUT I, I, I REALLY THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY MAY HAVE BEEN OKAY WITH TAKING THAT RISK, BUT, AND IT MIGHT'VE BEEN OKAY, AND THERE'S NO GUARANTEES, BUT WHY, WHY STAND IN FRONT OF AN ONCOMING CAR? YOU KNOW? SO IT, IT, IT REALLY, THERE'S SO MANY OTHER WAYS THAT WE'VE ALL COME UP WITH, RIGHT.
AND WE DON'T WANNA DISMISS WHAT THE CHIEF RECOMMENDED.
OUR OWN CHIEF JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE OWN, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, YOU KNOW,
SO MAYBE HE'S MISUNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, I'M LOOKING AT NO, WE, NO, HE'S NOT MISUNDERSTANDING.
I THINK THAT'S VERY, HE UNDERSTOOD, CLEARLY VERY DISINGENUOUS TO SAY HE IS MISUNDERSTANDING SAFETY.
NO, I'M SAYING IT'S POSSIBLE THAT HE MIGHT'VE THOUGHT THAT I WANTED, YOU KNOW, THREE SENTENCES OR FOUR SENTENCES RATHER THAN, UH, FIVE WORDS OR SIX WORDS.
YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING WHERE IT'S VERY CATCHY.
IT COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, UH, BE COURTEOUS TO YOUR NEIGHBORS, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, DON'T HAVE YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU COME UP WITH
THEY CAN PROCESS THAT REALLY QUICKLY.
BUT IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING NEW AND DISTRACTING, THAT WILL TAKE PEOPLE'S ATTENTION AWAY MORE.
AND JOE WILL, UH, YOU KNOW, DRAFT SOMETHING, AND THEN THE BOARD WILL BASICALLY, UM, IF YOU LIKE IT, THEN YOU CAN GO THROUGH NO, I'M JUST TALKING.
YEAH, NO, IT SOUNDS, I'D RATHER YOU DO IT BECAUSE THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY SIGNS OFF ON IT, THEN WE'RE ALL DOING IT AS A TEAM.
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PRESERVE REQUEST.UH, I'M, I'M GONNA RECUSE MYSELF ON THIS DISCUSSION, SO I'M GONNA SIT OVER THERE.
SO, UH, ERIN HART COULDN'T BE HERE TODAY.
UH, WE MOVED THE TIME, SO SHE'S COULDN'T BE HERE.
BUT I WANTED TO PASS OUT THE, UH, RESOLUTION THAT THE, UH, TOWN, UH, ADVISORY BOARD PASSED THE PARKS ADVISORY BOARD, PARKS AND REC.
I THINK WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION BEFORE ON THIS ISSUE BEFORE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A RESOLUTION THAT THEY PASSED AS SUPPORTING ERIN HART AND HER GROUP TO USE STATE FUNDS TO ACQUIRE THE, UM, THE AREA SUBDIVIDED.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE IN HARTSBURG AND THEN TURN IT BACK OVER TO THE TOWN EVENTUALLY.
BUT EVERYONE SHOULD REMEMBER THE TOWN, THE, UH, HARTSBURG PARK IS ALREADY A STATE PARK.
AND SO IF THE STATE GOES AND USES TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND OR PURCHASE IT OUTRIGHT, THEN THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER STATE PARK.
AND SO WHAT, UM, BUT IT IS ALSO COUNTY AS WELL, CORRECT? IT'S COUNTY AS WELL.
BUT, UM, BUT THIS WOULD NOT USE ANY TOWN FUNDS.
THIS WOULD JUST BE A, UM, A RESOLUTION THAT THE TOWN BOARD WOULD USE TO SUPPORT HER EFFORT TO USE STATE FUNDS TO ACQUIRE THIS LAND.
AND DO WE KNOW WHERE THE COUNTY STANDS ON IT? THE COUNTY IS, IS BEHIND THIS? YES.
THIS IS REALLY A ISSUING A RESOLUTION ALSO.
UM, BUT THE, UH, IN ORDER FOR HER TO GET GRANT MONEY, IN ORDER FOR HER TO WORK WITH THE STATE, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN GOVERNMENT IS BEHIND THIS.
SO I JUST, I JUST, JUST CURIOUS.
SO WHEN YOU SAY BEHIND IT, WHAT IS THE, WHAT'S THE SUPPORT THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR? THEY'RE LOOKING, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT IS BEHIND THE EFFORT TO ACQUIRE THIS LAND AND ADD IT TO THE PARK, UH, TO HARTSBURG PARK.
AND, UM, DO THEY HAVE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING IN, IN WRITING? I, I KNOW THAT THEY DID A PRE, SHE THAT ERIN HAD DONE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
BUT ON MAINTENANCE OF THE LAND AND, UM, AND WHATEVER, IF IF THEY WERE TO ACQUIRE THE LAND, UHHUH
BUT THEY WOULD ALL, WE'D ALSO WORK WITH THEM.
THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WOULD WORK WITH THEM ON CARING FOR THE LAND.
AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT'S IN THE FUTURE.
AND SO, BUT THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO TURN IT INTO A PORTION OF HARTSBURG PARK IN CONCEPT.
BUT I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO KNOW WHAT THE TOWN'S, BECAUSE WELL, THE TOWN WOULDN'T BE GIVING ANY MONEY TO PURCHASE IT.
THERE IS POTENTIALLY MONEY IN HELPING TO MAINTAIN IT.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THOSE DETAILS SHOULD I BELIEVE.
WELL, THE, IF IN FACT THE TOWN TOOK OVER THE ONE POINT, I THINK IT'S 1.5 ACRES, EVENTUALLY THE AMOUNT OF MAINTENANCE WOULD BE INSIGNIFICANT IN OUR BUDGET.
WE'RE ALREADY CARING FOR IT RIGHT UP TO THE EDGE.
UH, AND SOMETIMES WE CROSS OVER AND ACTUALLY DO IT.
SO WE SHARE THAT RIGHT NOW, UH, BEFORE, YEAH.
BUT WHILE, WHILE THEY ARE, UM, USING THE LAND, RIGHT, WE WILL HAVE NO MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES THEN? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? AS OF RIGHT NOW, YES.
ALSO, IT'LL BE CLEARLY UNDER THEM.
SO THEY, WHILE THEY HAVE, WHILE THEY ACQUIRED THE LAND, THE OLD RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT LAND WOULD BE ALL, ALL UNDER THEM, RISK AND EVERYTHING.
SO THEY REQUIRE INSURANCE, ALL THAT STUFF.
IT WOULD BE TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND, WOULD OWN IT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME UNTIL WE EVENTUALLY COULD TRY TO TRANSFER OWNERSHIP TO THE STATE COMPLETELY.
WELL, IT'S THE STATE, THE STATE WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF IT, SO, OKAY.
SO THAT'S, SO YOU SAY THE STATE WOULD BE IN CHARGE OF IT, BUT WE ARE MAINTAINING IT.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE EXERCISED, WE WOULD EXERCISE THE ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO CUT THE GRASS ON IT FOR THEM.
AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA IN ANY WAY TAKE OVER THE BUILDING THAT IF THE BUILDING IS, IS, UH, STILL STANDING.
BECAUSE RIGHT NOW THEY'RE STILL, THEY'RE CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THE BUILDING IS SAVEABLE AT THIS POINT.
THEY BEING TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND, FOR PUBLIC, AND ALSO THIS GROUP THAT SHE HAS CREATED RIGHT HERE.
AND SO IF THE BUILDING IS WORTHWHILE, THEY'LL
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MAKE WHATEVER REPAIRS AND, AND TAKE CARE OF THE MAINTENANCE ON IT, OR THE STABLE ABSOLUTELY.THE TOWN HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY AT ALL, RIGHT? NO.
AND WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING STATEMENTS.
WE WOULD NOT GO INTO ANY KIND OF, UH, AGREEMENT WITHOUT THAT.
AND THEN YOU, AND BY THE BUILDING, YOU MEAN THE OLD BIG HOUSE? YES.
AND IF, DO YOU KNOW WHETHER THE, THE 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A SCULPTURE GARDEN, RIGHT? THAT'S THE LAND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? YEAH.
IT THERE, WELL, THERE'S A, UH, A, A PIECE WALK THERE MM-HMM.
THERE'S SEVERAL LARGE PIECES OF SCULPTURE.
NO, THOSE SCULPTURES ARE ACTUALLY WITHIN THE PARK.
THOSE ARE ACTUALLY OUR S SCULPTURES.
NO, THE BIGGEST THING THAT, UH, WOULD BE INSIDE THAT LAND WOULD BE THE BUILDING.
AND THEY HAVEN'T REALLY DETERMINED WHETHER OR NOT IT'S, UH, SALVAGEABLE OR NOT RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS THAT THE TOWN BOARD AT SOME POINT, EITHER ENDORSED THIS RESOLUTION WITH A RESOLUTION SIMILAR TO THIS, SO THAT THEY CAN THEN USE THAT WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO ACQUIRE FUNDS TO PURCHASE THE LAND.
SO COULD WE PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE NEXT MEETING? WELL, THAT WOULD BE UP TO JOE, BECAUSE HE WOULD HAVE TO CRAFT THE AGENDA AND, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, TO DECIDE WHETHER RESOLUTION HE SHOULD USE THIS RESOLUTION, SORRY.
OR I, I WOULD JUST, BEFORE THE BOARD VOTES ON IT, JUST ASK IF WE COULD GET IT IN WRITING.
JUST THAT THEY'D BE MAINTAINING THE BUILDING AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OF THAT WORK AND FOR FUTURE MAINTENANCE OF THE LAWN, AND THAT WE'D HAVE TO COME TO AN AGREEMENT OKAY.
IN WRITING, YOU KNOW, JUST SOLIDIFYING ALL, IF WE COULD, IF HE COULD DO THAT BEFORE THE AGENDA CLOSES, COULD WE DO SOMETHING BEFORE THE NEXT AGENDA? BECAUSE THAT'D BE GREAT.
WE'LL GET SOMETHING RIGHT AWAY.
SO YEAH, THAT WOULD BE BY NEXT WEDNESDAY.
FOR THE 14TH MEETING IS A RUSH.
DOES, DOES, IS THERE A RUSH? IS THERE A TIME? WELL, THEY'RE LOOKING TO REACH OUT TO GET MONEY RIGHT NOW, AND SO THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE REACHING OUT FOR, UH, TRUST FOR PUBLIC LANDS.
THEY'RE TRYING TO ACQUIRE MONEY SO THAT THEY CAN BE A, UM, A BUYER FROM THE, UH, FROM THE SISTERS AT THIS POINT MM-HMM.
AND SO THAT IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO GO OUT AND TRY AND GET MONEY IF THEY KNOW THAT THE TOWN IS SUPPORTING IT TOO.
SO THEY'RE JUST LOOKING FOR SUPPORT FROM THE TOWN MAKE.
AND THERE IS, THERE IS, THERE'S ENOUGH TIME.
WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT JOE AND HIS STAFF HAS ENOUGH TIME TO DO THE WORK.
DOESN'T, WE DON'T, I DON'T WANNA RUSH THAT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER PAPERWORK AND EVERYTHING WHILE THERE'S STUFF THAT YOU NEED.
WELL, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET, WE'LL GET, AND I GUESS THE URGENCY WOULD BE THAT THERE'S LAND, DEVELOPABLE LAND FOR SALE, SO I WANT TO TRY TO GET IN AND GET IT IF WE CAN BEFORE THERE'S A BIDDING WAR AND THE PRICE GOES THROUGH THE ROOF.
I JUST DON'T WANT YEAH, I UNDERSTAND TIMING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE KEEP SAYING, YOU KNOW, WE STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, HE'S A ONE MAN SHOW.
I, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA BE KNOW HE HAS A FEW LAWYERS THAT WORK UNDERNEATH IT.
STILL, YOU KNOW, A FEW, YOU KNOW, BUT WE KEEP PUTTING ALL THIS STUFF AND HAS ACCOUNTING, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THE DUE DILIGENCE HAS A RESOLUTION, YOU KNOW, THAT SURE.
HAVE I'LL FIND THAT OUT ENOUGH TIME TO REVIEW IT AND EVERYTHING.
AND HAS IT COME UP, GONE UP TO THE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO REMEMBER IF THE TOWN DOES NOTHING AND THEY SELL IT TO SOMEONE ELSE, WE END UP WITH A NEIGHBOR ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND WE'VE HAD SUCH A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SISTERS, BUT WE CAN'T ALWAYS COUNT ON THAT WITH A NEW NEIGHBOR THAT WE DON'T KNOW YET AT POINT.
AND I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU, JUDGE.
OKAY, THE NEXT ITEM IS, UM, WE'RE SPEAKING TO, UH, KRISTA, UM, AND OUR COMMITTEE APPOINTMENT PROCESSES, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY NOT WORKING BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, WE CALL PEOPLE FOR INTERVIEWS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE, THEY MAKE A GOOD IMPRESSION.
UH, WE DON'T APPOINT THEM BECAUSE, UM, UH, THEY WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT OR THE, THE OTHER, THE OTHER, THE ETHICS THINGS, AND THEN WE FORGET, YOU KNOW, OR I'M SAYING IT'S, IT'S VERY HARD TO KEEP TRACK.
SO, UH, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF WE COULD, HOW HARD IS THAT? I'M SORT OF, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF APPOINTMENTS THAT JUST HAVEN'T BEEN MADE.
YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, THERE'S STILL HOLDOVERS.
AND I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD EXPEDITE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS AND, AND HOW, HOW, WELL, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT, ARE YOU OPPOSED TO THEM DOING THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT OR NO, NO, NO.
LET ME SAY, I'M GONNA RESPECT YOU.
YOU RESPECT ME? NO, NO, THERE'S NOT.
WHAT FINE, LET, LEMME SAY WHAT I'M SUGGESTING.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BASICALLY, UM, UM, SEND EVERYBODY WHO'S ON A BOARD AND COMMISSION WHOSE TERM EXPIRED.
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UH, YOUR TERM HAD EXPIRED IN 2014 OR 50, OR WHENEVER IT IS.UM, DO YOU WANT TO BE APPOINTED? MM-HMM.
UM, THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, HAVE YOU ATTENDED THE MEETINGS? WHAT, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE IF THEN BASICALLY WE, IT'S DONE ON PAPER.
WE BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB AND WE ALL THINK THEY DO A GOOD JOB, WE APPOINT THEM.
IF ANY BOARD MEMBER DISAGREES WITH THAT, WITH AN INDIVIDUAL'S APPLICATION, THEN WE COULD ASK, UM, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, SCHEDULE THEM FOR AN INTERVIEW.
SO THE THING IS, THIS WAY, THERE MAY BE 30 PEOPLE, THERE MAY BE 50 BACKLOG APPOINTMENTS, AND, UM, RATHER THAN MAKE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN PEOPLE, SOMETIMES THEY WAIT A COUPLE HOURS AND WE SEE THEM FOR FOUR MINUTES.
UH, SO I WOULD, I WOULD ADD TO THAT, THAT IF, IF, UM, IF ONCE THEY'VE RETURNED THE QUESTIONNAIRE RIGHT, INDICATING THEIR INTEREST AND WHAT THEY'VE DONE, AND THAT THEY'VE COMPLETED THE TRAINING OR THE DATE BY WHICH THEY'LL COMPLETE THE TRAINING, RIGHT? THEN WE JUST ASK THE CHAIR OF THAT COMMITTEE HOW THE CHAIR FEELS ABOUT SAID INDIVIDUAL TO KNOW WHETHER WE NEED TO HAVE A MORE OF A CONVERSATION, RIGHT.
RATHER THAN JUST TO REAPPOINT THEM OR IN IT CONVERSELY MM-HMM.
TO FIND OUT IF THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP ON THE COMMITTEE, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE SOME SENSE OF THE ATTENDANCE.
THEY CAN REPORT ON THAT AND SAY, THIS PERSON NEVER SHOWS UP BECAUSE SOMEONE MIGHT WANNA STAY ON THE COMMITTEE, BUT IF THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ATTENDING MEETINGS, THEN IT'S A NAME ONLY.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE CHAIRS WEIGH IN MM-HMM.
AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO KEEP ON THE, THAT HAVE BEEN ATTENDING THAT THEY THINK SHOULD REMAIN ON THE BOARD, THAT'S A VERY GOOD IDEA.
WHY DON'T WE NOT GIVING THIS TO THE CHAIRS SO THEY CAN COME BACK AND WE GET THE FEEDBACK.
SO THE CHAIRS IS THE CHAIR OF THE, THAT'S WHAT I SAID, THE CHAIRS NO, INITIALLY GIVE IT TO THE CHAIRS.
THIS IS, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID AF I THOUGHT YOU SAID NO, NO, NO.
I SAID AFTER, AFTER SHE SAID, I SAID BEFORE, BEFORE.
GIVE IT TO THE CHAIRS TO GIVE IT TO THE CHAIRS AND THEN GO BACK AND THEN HAVE THE CHAIRS CONFIRM IT.
I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT BECAUSE YOU WANT, IF YOU HAVE A SEVEN MEMBER BOARD, YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DIVERSITY OF OPINIONS AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A CHAIR WHO MAY BE SLANTED ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
AND HOW THEY, I'M, I'M SPEAKING ABOUT LAND USE, ABOUT PARTICULAR LAND USE ISSUES.
UH, AND IF YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, THE, THE CHAIR, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIR MIGHT NOT THINK THAT THE PERSON'S DOING A GOOD JOB BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTRARY TO THEIR OPINION ON SOME THINGS.
THAT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'VE HAD ON THE AGENDAS, UH, SEVEN OR EIGHT PEOPLE LINED UP, BUT THEN THEY'RE SCHEDULED, SAY AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
AND WE ARE OUT HERE WITH THINGS ON THE AGENDA THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE 15 TO 20 MINUTES OR A HALF AN HOUR, AND THEY TAKE AN HOUR AND A HALF.
SO I'M WATCHING THEM COME IN ON ZOOM, I'VE RAISED THIS, IT'S ON TAPE.
I'VE RAISED THIS AS WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING.
AND IT'S, WELL, DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT.
AND IT GETS FRUSTRATING FOR THEM.
IF WE HAD GOOD AGENDA MANAGEMENT REGARDING TIME, TWO OF THESE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE, I MEAN, AT FOUR 15, I MEAN, HOW DOES ANYBODY PLAN WHEN IT'S JUST, IT'S, FRANKLY, IT'S ANYTHING YOU WANNA PUT ON IS GOING ON THE AGENDA.
IF WE HAD GOOD TIME MANAGEMENT AS FAR AS OUR AGENDA'S CONCERNED, AND WHEN SOMEBODY IS SCHEDULED FOR SEVEN O'CLOCK TO COME IN, I THINK IT'S TERRIFIC FOR, FOR, FOR ME, THAT IS NOT A LIAISON TO PARTICULAR BOARDS TO HEAR WHAT THESE BOARD MEMBERS SAY.
I'M NOT GONNA GET THAT EXPERIENCE BY LOOKING AT A SURVEY OF WHAT A CHAIR SAYS IS GOOD ABOUT THIS PERSON OR NOT.
SOME OF THESE PEOPLE ARE APPOINTED FOR SEVEN YEARS.
SO I THINK THAT WE COULD FIND AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, TIME TO ACTUALLY HAVE DISCUSSIONS.
AND I THINK EVERY TIME WE'VE HAD A DISCUSSION WITH SOMEBODY ON A BOARD, WE'VE ALWAYS SAID, OH, THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
AND SO TO DO AWAY WITH WHAT I WOULD CONSIDER BE OUR, OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS GOOD GOVERNMENT TO HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE WE ARE, WE'RE APPOINTING WHO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE LIVES OF OUR RESIDENTS.
ZONING BOARD MEMBERS, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS, C A C MEMBERS,
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THEY ALL AFFECT EVERYDAY PEOPLE LIVES.AND SO WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO LISTEN TO THEM FOR FIVE, 10 MINUTES.
AND SOMETIMES IT GOES A LITTLE BIT LONGER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE GOOD TIME MANAGEMENT ON THESE AGENDAS.
UM, UH, JUST TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, THE REASON OUR, OUR APPOINTMENTS HAVE FALLEN WAY BEHIND, I THINK THAT'S, THAT WAS FOR STARTERS.
SO NOW WE HAVE A HUGE GROUP OF BOARDS AND PEOPLE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN REAPPOINTED AND WE HAVEN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT.
WE HAVEN'T HAD THE DATA TO, TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.
SO WHAT WE DECIDED, IF YOU RECALL, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH WHAT, UM, WHAT FRANCIS SAID IS THAT WE ARE INTERVIEWING THE BOARDS IN THEIR ENTIRETY RATHER THAN INDIVIDUALLY, BECAUSE THAT'S A TIME SAVER.
WE HAVE TO GET PAST THIS HUMP OF ALL THESE LAPSED APPOINTMENTS.
UM, BUT PERHAPS WHAT WE NEED MOSTLY FROM THE CHAIRS IS TO, IS AT ATTENDANCE.
ATTENDANCE AND STICK TO THAT, STICK TO ATTENDANCE, FIND OUT.
AND THAT WILL, THAT WILL WEEDED OUT SOME PEOPLE WHO JUST STARTED AND, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER HERE IN GREENBURG AND THEY'RE STILL ON BOARD.
BUT THE, THE OTHER OPTION THAT I COULD SAY, UM, WOULD BE, UM, INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, TO DO THE PAPER INTERVIEWS, YOU KNOW, SO THIS WAY WE COULD CLEAR IT UP, BUT AT EVERY BOARD MEETING, AT EVERY WORK SESSION, WE COULD INVITE, UM, WE COULD HAVE A JOINT MEETING WITH A TOWN BOARD AND A DIFFERENT CITIZEN BOARD FOR LIKE A HALF HOUR.
ARE WE DOING THAT ALREADY? NO, NO.
I'M TALKING ABOUT AT A PUBLIC MEETING, WE COULD BASICALLY HAVE A, A DISCUSSION WITH, WE COULD SAY, OKAY, TONIGHT, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, EIGHT MAY 30TH, WE'RE GONNA BE HERE, MEET, INVITING, EV EVERYBODY ON THE LIBRARY BOARD TO MEET WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
THEN THEY COULD BASICALLY SAY WHAT THEY LIKE, WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE.
IT WOULD BE A JOINT MEETING OF THE TOWN BOARD AND THE LIBRARY BOARD.
THEN IT COULD BE THE C A C, AND THEY, EVERYBODY COULD SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT.
AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE SEPARATE FROM THE INTERVIEW PROCESS.
BUT THIS WAY WE COULD HEAR, WE ARE SHOWING RESPECT TO EACH OF THE BOARDS BECAUSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT BOARDS.
WE'RE MAKING THEM FEEL THAT WE REALLY ARE LISTENING AND WE WELCOME THEIR INPUT AND THEIR DIFFERING OPINIONS, AND WE WANT TO HEAR WHAT THEY THINK WE COULD DO BETTER.
AND THEN AT THE, WHY WOULD WE DO IT, WHY WOULD WE DO IT SEPARATE FROM THE INTERVIEW PROCESS? BECAUSE MY FAILING IS THAT BECAUSE I FEEL THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IF WE, YOU KNOW, IF WE BASICALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALLY WANT TO DO AS A BOARD IS WE WANT TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE, WHAT POLICY ISSUES.
UH, THE OTHER ISSUE IS, UH, NOT, YOU KNOW, POLICY.
IT'S WHETHER THEY SHOULD BE REAPPOINTED.
AND, YOU KNOW, AND TO ME, IF, WELL, THAT COULD BE TWO SEPARATE THINGS, RIGHT? AND IT'S REALLY TO ME, IF IT COULD, IF IT'S IN WRITING AND THEY TELL US WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY BASICALLY, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEM, WE'RE NOT SHOWING THEM DISRESPECT BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S APPOINTMENT, YOU KNOW, EXPIRED IN 2014 OR 2015.
THERE NO APPOINTMENTS THAT EXPIRED IN TWO, 2014.
WELL, THERE WERE, THERE WERE SOME, UH, WITH THE AWARD.
THERE WERE IN TWO ADVISORY REPORT THAT WAS, THAT THAT WAS GOING ON FOR, FOR YEARS BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS LIST.
THAT WAS ACCURATE, LET'S FACE IT.
BUT WE NOW HAVE KRISTEN, OUR SECRETARY DOING, WE HAVE, WE HAVE, IT'S ACCURATE.
BUT YOU, ALL I'M SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T SHOW RESPECT TO THE, THE BOARDS.
AND I'M SAYING GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, I SORT OF FEEL WE COULD, UH, WE COULD, WE, YOU KNOW, THIS BOARD, NO MATTER WHAT, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE ISSUES THAT ARE GONNA TAKE UP OUR TIME.
YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
AND, YOU KNOW, SPENDING AN HOUR ON INTERVIEWING WHEN, WHEN THERE'S MAJOR ISSUES FACING THE TOWN, TO ME IS NOT, I THINK THE BOARDS, UH, PLAY AN INTEGRAL PART.
AND A VERY, UM, IMPORTANT ONE TO HELPING US.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HEAR THEM OUT.
BUT TO YOUR POINT, PERHAPS ONCE WE GET THROUGH THE PROCESS, MAYBE EACH WEEK WE HAVE THE CHAIR OF ONE OF THE BOARDS GO THROUGH, MAKE A, A, A LIST, JUST DO A QUICK, UM, FIVE, 10 MINUTE REPORT ON WHAT THEIR BOARD IS, HAS DONE AND IS DOING FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR.
AND THAT WAY WE CAN, WE CAN, I THINK IT'S GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO KNOW HOW THESE BOARDS ARE FUNCTIONING.
SO I, BUT IT SHOULD ALSO BE DONE IN A PUBLIC MEETING.
SO THIS WAY EVERYBODY, THAT'S WHAT I SAID, COMMUNITY.
THAT'S WHAT I SAID, CAN HEAR, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE ISSUES ARE.
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LET ME ASK A QUESTION JUST SO WE COULD, YOU KNOW, MOVE THIS ALONG.WOULD THE BOARD HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS IF I WOULD ASK KRISTER AT EVERY WORK SESSION TO SCHEDULE, AND WE TELL EVERYBODY IT'S LIMITED TO A HALF HOUR TILL WE TAKE A DIFFERENT BOARD AT EACH WORK SESSION.
AND THEN AT THAT TIME, WE COULD ASK, UH, YOU KNOW, THE CHAIRS AND THE BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, ARE THERE ANY, UM, OUTSTANDING APPOINTMENTS ON, ON YOUR BOARD? UH, ARE THERE PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO SERVE ON THE BOARD? AND THEN WE COULD MAKE IT EASY TO IT UP, I THINK.
I THINK THE, THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS FINE.
AND THEN ONCE WE'VE GOT ALL THAT LOCKED UP, BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, IT'S GOOD FOR A PUBLIC PRESENCE FOR OUR BOARDS.
AFTER EVERYTHING'S STRAIGHTENED OUT, THEN WE HAVE THE CHAIR DO A QUICK SUMMARY OF WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
SO DO YOU WANT ME TO ASK, UH, KRISTA TO SCHEDULE, UH, PUBLIC MEETINGS WITH, UH, EACH OF THE BOARDS? UH, FOR NO, WELL, SHOULDN'T, THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID.
WE NEED TO GET THROUGH THE REAPPOINTMENT PROCESS.
WHAT YOU'RE REALLY ASKING IS FOR ALL THE BOARDS TO COME EVERY YEAR, WHETHER THEY'RE UP FOR A REAPPOINTMENT OR NOT, WHICH IS GOING TO BE VERY DIFFICULT TO, TO MANAGE.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS WHEN WE TELL SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE GOING TO INTERVIEW AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAD AN AGENDA NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE YOU HAD SOMEBODY INTERVIEWED AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, SEVEN OH FIVE, SEVEN TEN SEVEN FIFTEEN, SEVEN TWENTY SEVEN, THAT'S TOTALLY UNREALISTIC.
BY THE TIME THEY WALK IN AND SIT DOWN, IT'S TOO LATE.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS BETTER TIME MANAGEMENT.
AND NOT EVERYTHING GOES ON THE AGENDA AT THE LAST MOMENT, PUSHING EVERYTHING BACK.
IF WE CAN DO THAT, YOU KNOW, WITHIN, YOU KNOW, A A A MATTER OF A MONTH OR TWO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GET THIS THING RESOLVED.
WE'VE, WE'VE INTERVIEWED QUITE A FEW.
SOME WE WERE, WE'RE WAITING FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT TRAINING.
I AM VEHEMENTLY OPPOSED TO APPOINTING, AS YOU RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, CONDITIONAL ON THEM TAKING THE TRAINING.
I THINK THE BEST WAY TO MAKE SURE THEY'VE HAD THE TRAINING IS THAT WE DO NOT APPOINT UNTIL THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THAT TRAINING.
AND ALSO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT TRAINING.
WE'VE ADDED, UM, REQUIREMENTS TO THE REAPPOINTMENT PROCESS.
I THINK WE ALL THINK IT'S A GOOD THING THAT WE'VE ADDED THOSE REQUIREMENTS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT PREVENTION TRAINING AND THE CODE OF ETHICS TRAINING.
BUT FRANKLY, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO SERVE ON A BOARD AND HAVE THE ROLE THAT THEY, THEY THEY PLAY, THEY NEED TO HAVE THOSE TRAININGS.
SO LET'S, LET'S SEE IF WE CAN DEAL WITH, WE HAVE A, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THANKS TO YOUR SECRETARY, WE NOW HAVE A GOOD BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS LIST, AND, UH, WE'RE WORKING FROM IT.
WE JUST NOW HAVE TO HAVE A WAY OF MANAGING THE TIME SO THAT THEY'RE NOT WAITING.
AND, AND, UH, ON ZOOM AT SEVEN O'CLOCK WHEN WE'RE STILL OUT HERE DISCUSSING SOME TOPIC THAT NEED NOT HAVE TAKEN THAT LONG AND, AND SEE, AND SEE HOW WE CAN DEAL WITH THAT.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE? SO IF NOBODY HAS TO WAIT FOR, TO, UH, HAVE, UH, UH, ALL THE APPOINTMENTS, UM, AT THE F THE FIRST ITEM ON EACH, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK SESSION.
SO THIS WAY IF WE START ALL THE APPOINTMENT CONFIRMATIONS AT FIVE O'CLOCK, THEN PEOPLE ARE HERE AT FIVE O'CLOCK AND THEN NOBODY'S WAITING.
BUT THE CONFIRMATIONS, NO, THE PUBLIC MEETING, WELL, WE COULD, IF WE START EVERYTHING AT FIVE O'CLOCK SAYING WE, WE DO LIKE ALLOCATE SAY A HALF HOUR OR SOMETHING, UM, THEN WE COULD SAY, START THE PUBLIC MEETING AT FIVE 30.
BECAUSE THEN, BECAUSE THEN, WELL, IT'S NOT GONNA, IT'S GONNA TAKE LONGER THAN A HALF HOUR, BECAUSE THEN WE'LL NEVER, OR YOU COULD SAY AN HOUR.
WE COULD SAY, WE JUST, WE JUST NEED TO MANAGE THE AGENDA.
RIGHT? SO WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE GET THE, WHY DON'T WE GET THE LIST OF PEOPLE ARE GONNA DO, WE'RE GOING TO, UM, REAPPOINT AND THEN WE MANAGE THE LIST.
LET'S JUST, LET'S FINISH THIS, UH, WORK WITH THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE NOW.
BUT WITH, TO FRANCIS'S POINT, WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WORK AND STICK TO THE AGENDA.
AND IF WE HAVE AGENDA CUTOFF POINT THAT WE ADHERE TO THAT CUTOFF POINT.
PAUL, ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS, COME ON, ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS IS, FRANK, YOU'RE NEXT THE CHAIR.
I'LL WAIT UNTIL SIDEBARS STOP.
ANOTHER ASPECT OF THIS MANAGING OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IS THAT THE CHAIRPERSONS OF EACH COMMITTEE HAVE TO HAVE A SENSE OF ACCOUNTABILITY.
THEY HAVE TO, BECAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING AND IT, AND IT'S, AND IT'S REALLY GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CONTINUE TO BE COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.
IF, UM, THE CHAIRPERSONS DO NOT FEEL A SENSE OF ACCOUNTABILITY TO THIS BOARD, UM, UH, LETTERS AND, AND BE REQUESTS FOR UPDATED INFORMATION WILL BE SENT OUT TO THE CHAIRS AND SOME RESPONSE, SOME DON'T RESPOND.
AND IF THEY FEEL THAT THERE IS A SENSE OF ACCOUNTABILITY TO THE BOARD, THEN THEY WILL RESPOND.
BUT THERE, THERE HAS TO BE CLEAR AND CONCISE, UH, UM,
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UH, DIRECTIONS AND DIRECTIVES AND OR, OR NEGOTIATING WITH THE CHAIRPERSONS AS TO WHAT THEY FEEL IS REASONABLE, UM, IN ORDER TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE.OTHERWISE, THIS, IT'LL CONTINUE TO BE A WHOLE LOT OF TALK.
UM, OKAY, UH, WE HAVE, UM, THE MS. SARAH PARK UPDATES.
I THINK, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU'VE DONE AN OUTSTANDING JOB ON, UH, ON HELPING US ADDRESS, YOU KNOW, THAT PROBLEM.
AND MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US LIKE A LITTLE UPDATE AS TO PRESS THE, PRESS THE BUTTON AS TO WHAT'S, AND BRING IT A WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND MAYBE, UH, WHILE YOU'RE HERE, YOU'VE ALSO BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE WITH, UH, THE SHOPRITE ISSUES.
MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US AN UPDATE ON, UM, THE SHOPRITE.
AND ALSO, UH, UH, THE GREENBURG PARKS, THE OUTAGE TODAY.
SO WITH THE SHOPRITE, UH, SHOPRITE HAS, UH, JUST BRING IT, CLOSE IT THERE.
SHOPRITE HAS, UH, CLOSED THEM ENTRANCES AND EXITS DOWN IN THE MORNING UNTIL, UH, SEVEN 30.
NOW THEY CLOSE 'EM THEMSELVES SO NOBODY CAN COME EVEN IN, INTO THE PARK TO MAKE DELIVERIES.
HOW THEY, HOW ARE THEY DOING THAT? THEY'RE CLOSING IT DOWN.
THEY HAVE FOUR MEMBERS OF THEIR STAFF THAT BLOCK THE ENTRANCES.
SO PEOPLE CAN'T, THE DELIVERY TRUCKS CAN'T COME IN.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE VEHICLES ARE THEIR OWN BARRIER.
AND THEN THEY MOVE 'EM AT SEVEN 30 IN THE MORNING.
SO THEY'RE THERE FROM FIVE 30 EVERY MORNING.
WHAT HAPPENS? WHAT HAPPENS IF THE TRUCKS GET THERE EARLIER? THEY'RE JUST SITTING IN THE ROADWAY.
YEAH, THEY, HE SAID THEY GO UP, THERE'S A TRUCK STOP UP THE STREET IN MOUNT PLEASANT SOMEWHERE.
SO I ASKED THAT QUESTION IF THEY'RE, BECAUSE I DON'T SEE THEM ON THE ROAD.
HE SAID THEY'RE ORDERED TO GO UP BY HOME DEPOT.
YEAH, I JUST HAD A VISION OF THEM WAITING IN LINE.
WITH THEIR ROTORS RUNNING, THEY'RE ORDERED TO GO TO HOME DEPOT.
SO THEY MAKE THEIR OWN ENFORCEMENT NOW.
I'VE BEEN THERE EVERY MORNING, INCLUDING SUNDAYS, YOU KNOW.
TO MAKE SURE IT'S, THAT'S CALMED DOWN.
DID YOU SAY YOU WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, DID YOU SAY YOU WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR JUST FOR PEOPLE WATCHING? YES.
UH, ARE THERE ANY, YOUR NAME AND HIS NAME IS WHAT? FRANK MARTO.
YOU, WE MENTIONED, UH, FOR SHOP BREAK ON THE WEEKEND, UH, THERE WAS SOME LANDSCAPING.
I THINK YOU SAID THAT, UH, THAT'S IN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
GARRETT IS DEALING WITH THE TREES, THE PLANT THINGS ARE THE TREES.
AND SO THEY'RE DOING THAT ALSO.
THEY'RE, UH, TAKING CARE OF THAT.
WHAT, WHEN WOULD YOU ANTICIPATE REGULAR PERMANENT? IT'S A TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE OF DOCUMENTATION.
BUT THEY'RE, THE PLANTINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE MID-JUNE
IF, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY GET THE C OF O AND THEN, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THEY GO BACK TO, UH, USING THE TRUCKS, YOU KNOW, AT FIVE 30.
DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOURSE? DOES THIS C O GIVE THEM MORE, MORE RIGHTS THAN A TEMPORARY C F O? NO, THE, THE TRUCKS I THINK ARE GONNA END.
THEY'VE GOTTEN ENOUGH SUMS. THEY GOT THREE MORE ON FRIDAY, THE FRIDAY BEFORE.
SO I THINK THIS THEY GOT THE MESSAGE MESSAGE.
I'M JUST SAYING ONCE YOU ISSUED A C F O, IS THERE ANY I DON'T.
IS THERE ANY REAL DIFFERENCE? NO, I DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA SEE THE TRUCKS THERE.
AND WE CAN ORDER SUMMONS AGAIN.
AND THE LIGHTING ISSUES, ARE THEY ALL RESOLVED THE ADDRESS? THEY'RE OUT THERE RIGHT NOW DOING THE FACADES ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE LAST OF THE LIGHTING ISSUES.
AND THEN THE PLANTINGS AND THE FENCING AND THEN THE PLANTINGS ARE WITH GARRETT? YES.
AND UM, AND UM, SO WE HAVE THAT, UH, AND THEN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
THE ZARO PARK, THE, UH, PARKING AREA WAS CLOSED OFF THE, UH, CRE SIDEWALKS AND NEW FENCING THERE WITH, UH, GATES FOR THE PARK.
UM, THE DELI OWNER HAS GOTTA GET AN ARCHITECT ENGINEER TO, UH, ADDRESS SOME OF THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES THAT ARE ADDRESSED THAT ARE BEEN POINTED OUT TO 'EM.
THERE'S, UH, ACTUALLY OUTLETS THAT WERE BURNING IN THE FACILITY FROM THE REFRIGERATION WHEN WE SHOWED UP THERE ALSO.
AND HE'S GETTING AN ELECTRICIAN.
YEAH, HE'S GONNA GET ALL THE CONTRACTORS.
AND IS HE STILL CLOSE? HE'S GONNA START WITH AN ENGINEER FIRST, THOUGH, STRUCTURALLY.
IS HE STILL CLOSED THEN HE, UNTIL YOU RESOLVE THOSE ISSUES, RIGHT? YES.
HOW, HOW, HOW, EXCUSE ME, CHIEF, CAN YOU COME SIT? YOU'RE AT THIS CONVERSATION AS WELL, SIR.
SO, SO FRANK, THE, THE, THE DELI WAS, YOU CAN BANG ME LATER SHUT DOWN BECAUSE OF THESE STRUCTURAL ISSUES.
AND BECAUSE OF THESE REFRIGERATION, ELECTRICAL ISSUES WAS TO THE FLOOR, THE ELECTRICAL ISSUES.
'CAUSE THERE WAS OUTLETS, BURNING EXTENSION CORDS.
THERE WAS OVERRATED EQUIPMENT FOR, UH, UNDERSIZED WIRING.
THERE'S A, YOU KNOW, MULTI, SO WHEN THEY, WHEN THEY TAKE CARE OF ALL THESE ISSUES, THEY'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO REOPEN IF THEY, THEY TAKE CARE OF THEM.
THEY HAVE TO GET CONED TO PUT THE POWER BACK.
WELL, BUT I MEAN THAT'S, YOU KNOW, A SPECIAL TEST ON THE ELECTRICAL WIRING.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO OPEN UP SOME OF THE FLOORS.
'CAUSE SOME OF THE STRUCTURES HAS COLLAPSED IN THE MIDDLE WHERE
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THE REFRIGERATION IS.IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S 1915 CONSTRUCTION.
SO THE FRAMING IS PROBABLY NOT TOO GREAT UNDERNEATH THAT.
SO THESE ISSUES MUST HAVE EXISTED FOR YEARS.
AN ACCIDENT WAITING AN ACCIDENT OR A FIRE WAITING TO HAPPEN.
I I ACTUALLY TOOK A PICTURE OF IT.
I'M JUST, I MEAN THESE, THE COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAD BEEN OUT THERE BEFORE.
AND THERE WAS NO, I CAN'T ANSWER FOR BEFORE, BUT I KNOW WHEN I WALKED IN THERE WAS, WELL, THANK YOU.
SO, CAN CAN, CAN YOU TALK TO ME, YOU HAD GIVEN ME AN EDUCATION ON CONFORMING.
YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT IF THERE'S ANY CHANGE TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN? BECAUSE WHAT WE DID IS A LOT, THERE WERE, UM, RESIDENTS CONCERNED OF THE CURRENT ZONING THAT'S IN PLACE NOW.
SO TALK ABOUT THE ZONING, THE OWNERS ACTUALLY DEBATING ON WHETHER TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE THEM BOTH DOWN AND REBUILD THEM.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THEY, JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO EVERYONE KNOWS THE OWNER, THE OWNER OF THE, OF THE BUILDING FOR BOTH THE DELI AND IT'S ONE PROPERTY, UHHUH, THEY'RE LOOKING TO EITHER TAKE THAT DOWN AND BUILD NEW HOUSE THERE BECAUSE, BECAUSE OF THE UNSAFE STRUCTURE AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IT'S GONNA TAKE TO MAKE THE REPAIR MM-HMM.
BUT THE STORE, HOLD, HOLD, HOLD ON A SECOND.
I'M, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT.
AND IF HE'S GONNA HAVE THE TIMING TO KEEP THE STORE, 'CAUSE HE'S GONNA BE CLOSED FOR A WHILE FOR THE REPAIRS.
HE'S, SHE'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HE REALLY WANTS TO DO IN THAT SPACE RIGHT NOW.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION? BUT, BUT JUST GIMME TWO MINUTES.
BUT, BUT IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, IF THERE'S ANY TYPE OF STRUCTURE DONE, ANY TYPE OF CHANGES, WHETHER YOU PULL IT BOARD OR IT'S NON-CONFORMING, RIGHT? YEP.
SO IT HAS TO CONFORM TO THE ZONING THAT IT'S CURRENTLY NOW.
SO THE CURRENT ZONING IN THAT AREA IS SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING.
SO IF THEY DO ANYTHING TO THAT STORE, WHETHER THEY REFRE TRY TO FIX UP THE STORE, WHATEVER, IT CANNOT BE A STORE, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
IS THAT CORRECT? NO, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
RIGHT? WELL THEY TO, THEY HAVE TO TEAR IT DOWN.
SO TEAR IT DOWN THING'S, SEE IF THE MONEY'S WORTH TO PUT INTO THAT STORE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING IF THEY TEAR IT DOWN, THEN IT HAS TO CONFORM TO THE CURRENT ZONING? CORRECT.
IT WAS A MIND MAIL RIGHT THERE, BUT I KNOW HE TOLD ME HAD A LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONCERN AND THEY WANTED TO CHANGE.
SO THERE'S A GREAT AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S GOTTA BE STRUCTURALLY, LIKE I SAID, IT'S 1915 CONSTRUCTION.
SO, WHICH MEANS IT PREDATES THE CODE BECAUSE THE CODE IS 19, 19 38, 24, 24, 30, 31 30.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF STAYING WITHIN THE FOOTPRINT.
IT'S A QUESTION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING DISTINCTION.
AND THERE'S A WAY OF TAKING DOWN IT IN STAGES WHERE YOU DON'T LOSE THAT NONCONFORMING.
AND SO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR HAS TO STAY ON TOP OF THAT AS WELL.
IS IT THE OWNER WHO OPERATES THE STORE OR SUBCONTRACT? HE RENT SUB SUBER? YEAH, HE SUBLET SUB HE SUBLETS THE BACKYARD TO A CONSTRUCTION GUY, WHICH HE'S GOT SOME HIS FOR.
HE SUBLET THE DELI TO SOMEBODY AND THEN HE HAS TWO FAMILY HOUSE ALSO.
WHICH HE SUB, HE'S NOT AN OWNER OCCUPIED.
IT SOUNDS LIKE THE OWNER IS TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
YEAH, I THINK HE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE TENANT TOO.
FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM, FROM THE, FOR THE PEOPLE LISTENING, THE, WHEN WE SAY THE PARKING AREA IS CLOSED OFF AND THE, THE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS, WHAT ARE THE VANTAGES TO THE PUBLIC, THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN NORTH ELMSFORD FOR THESE INITIATIVES? IT'S OFF THE, NO, THE TOP ON TOP.
UM, AGAIN, UH, FOR ME TO, I GUESS HAVE A, HOLD ON A SECOND.
CHIEF, CHIEF POWELL, KOBE POWELL.
I WASN'T EXPECTING TO BE HERE TODAY, SO YOU NEVER KNOW.
SURPRISES WE HAVE YOU ASKED, IS THAT THE NEXT WEEK HE LEFT HIS GLASSES IN FAKE MUSTACHE IN THE CAR THAT, THAT SAID, UM, OH, IT'S GOT A MUSTACHE.
THERE ARE THINGS I'M PREPARED TO SPEAK TO PUBLICLY.
UH, THINGS THAT I THINK WE SHOULD, UH, DISCUSS PRIVATELY, HAVE SOME CONVERSATION.
UH, THERE IS STILL AN OPEN CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.
BUT, UM, THAT BEING SAID, THAT, UH, TUESDAY, FORGIVE ME FOR NOT BEING ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE EXACT DATE.
MYSELF, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, HEAD OF THE PARKS AND REC, THE HEAD OF, UM, D P W D P W.
WE MET ALONG WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR, UM, SUBORDINATES, KEY SUBORDINATES, AND WE DISCUSSED ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, WE GOT WITH THAT AREA.
THERE WAS CONSTRUCTION THAT WAS PLANNED FOR THE PARK THIS
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SUMMER.ANYWAY, THERE WERE DISCUSSIONS BETWEEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PARKS AND REC D P W PRIOR TO MY BECOMING CHIEF IN REGARDS TO SOME CHANGES THAT WOULD PERHAPS DETER SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE HAVING.
SO IN A WAY, YOU KNOW, US GETTING TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT EVERYTHING WITH OUR OWN EYES, DISCUSS WHAT NEEDED TO BE, BE DONE INDIVIDUALLY, AND HOW WE COULD PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, HELP EACH OTHER ACHIEVE CERTAIN GOALS BY, YOU KNOW, GETTING ON THE SAME PAGE AT THE SAME TIME.
ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENED, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE SIDEWALK, THE DRIVEWAY, UM, TO THE, UH, DELI, WHICH IS RIGHT BY A TELEPHONE POLE, WAS NON-CONFORMING, WASN'T A PROPER DRIVEWAY THERE.
THE SIDEWALK WAS NOT CONFORMING WITH REGARD TO THE PARKING LOT FROM SRO PARK ITSELF.
IF YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR, YOU KNOW, ESSENTIALLY YOU PULL IN, UM, AT A 90 DEGREE ANGLE TO PAYNE STREET.
SO THEN YOU EITHER HAVE TO STOP AND BACK IN, OR YOU HAVE TO PULL STRAIGHT IN AND BACK OUT ONTO PAYNE STREET, WHICH ISN'T NECESSARILY AS SAFE AS HAVING IT CONSTRUCTED WHERE THE VEHICLES CAN PULL IN ONE PORTION AND PARK DIAGONALLY BACK OUT INSIDE A PROTECTED AREA THAT'S NOT ON THE STREET.
IF I'M MISSING A PARK, FORGIVE ME, BUT THERE IS THE ABILITY FOR PARKS AND REC TO CLOSE THE GATE AND LOCK THE PARK AT NIGHT.
AT LEAST, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING AREA FOR THE PARK.
AND MASERO HAS NO SUCH, YOU KNOW, UH, SYSTEM IN PLAY.
SO THE IDEA BEING THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, IN TERMS OF PEOPLE CONGREGATING OFF HOURS IN LARGE AMOUNTS, THEM BEING ABLE TO HAVE THEIR VEHICLES THERE PROVIDES A CERTAIN CONVENIENCE THAT WAS NOT INTENDED FOR THEM TO ENJOY, YOU KNOW, AFTER DARK AT NIGHT TO THE INCONVENIENCE OF THE RESIDENTS.
SO A LITTLE ENVIRONMENTAL ENGINEERING, WHICH ALLOWS THEM, WHICH PREVENTS THEM FROM HAVING THEIR VEHICLES THERE, YOU KNOW, AND PERHAPS WHATEVER THEY MIGHT WANT TO HAVE HANDY IN THEIR VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, CLOSE BY AND CONVENIENT, THEY'LL NO LONGER BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
CHANGING THE SIGNAGE SO THAT MY OFFICERS WILL BE MORE EASILY ABLE TO ISSUE SUMMONSES AND IF NECESSARY TOW VEHICLES.
LIKE WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE WHAT'S ON THE BOOKS, BUT THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN GO ABOUT THINGS THAT MAKES IT EASIER FOR US TO TAKE ENFORCEMENT ACTION.
UM, WITH, WITH THE ENCLOSURE OF THE LOT, IS THERE ANY LOSS OF PARKING SPACES? YOU KNOW WHAT, AGAIN? UM, A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT OUT OF MY WHEELHOUSE.
UM, SO I CAN'T REALLY SAY POSSIBLY, MAYBE IT'LL CREATE MORE, POSSIBLY THEY'LL EL LOSE SOME.
UM, I'M NOT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE PARK, THE PARK IS FENCED IN.
WHAT I, AS IT STANDS, WHAT I WILL SAY, I'M, I'M TRYING TO BE CAREFUL IN WHAT I'M PREPARED TO SAY PUBLICLY AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS WITH THE BOARD PRIVATELY, BUT I KNOW IT HAD COME UP THAT, YOU KNOW, I GUESS SOMEONE EXPRESSED A CONCERN ABOUT HAVING A, A FENCE AROUND THE PARK.
THERE'S BEEN A FENCE AROUND THAT PARK SINCE I WAS EIGHT YEARS OLD.
I'M 48, SO THAT FENCE HAS BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.
YOU CROSS CABOT FROM THE EAST SIDE, FROM THE WEST SIDE OF THE STREET TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE STREET.
THERE'S BEEN A SIX FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE THERE SINCE I WAS A CHILD.
SO THE IDEA OF HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE FENCING TO ENCLOSE THE NORTHERN PART OF THE PARK, UM, IT IS FOR THE RESIDENTS.
I MET WITH A GROUP OF APPROXIMATELY 10 RESIDENTS LAST MONDAY EVENING.
AND IN TERMS OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, D P W IS GOING TO BE DOING, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS DOING PARKS AND REC IS DOING, AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING, THEY ARE ON BOARD, APPRECIATIVE AND SUPPORTIVE OF NOT ONLY WHAT'S ALREADY HAPPENING, BUT WHAT IS PLANNED.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY ARE SUFFERING QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
I MEAN, THIS IS A, YOU'RE DOING A AMAZING JOB.
THIS IS REALLY LIKE SUCH AN IMPORTANT, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE, YOU KNOW, INITIATIVE.
IT'S BEEN LONGSTANDING AND IT'S REALLY IMPRESSIVE THAT, YOU KNOW, PARKS BUILDING DEPARTMENT, PUBLIC WORKS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT EVERYBODY'S WORKING TOGETHER AND COMING UP WITH.
UM, YOU KNOW WITH SOLUTIONS AND, AND THE TOWN ATTORNEYS OPEN.
AND JUST TO ADDRESS IN FRONT OF THE DELI MIGHT BE GREAT.
THERE WAS A DROP CURB PUT IN THAT WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE.
THERE'S NOW GONNA BE GRASS RESTORED BACK.
THERE'S GONNA BE A PATHWAY FROM THE STEPS TO THE NEW SIDEWALK AND THERE'S GONNA BE A RAISED CURB ACROSS THAT WHOLE THING.
SO THERE'S NO MORE PARKING ON TOP OF THE SIDEWALK ON THE DELI AND CREATING ALL THAT NONSENSE THAT WAS GOING ON.
AND WHEN I SPOKE TO RICH, UM, THE WORK HAS ALREADY YEP.
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AND, UM, HE ASKED UM, IF WE COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKE MONEY BEFORE THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS APPROVED AND, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO DO THE WORK, UH, YOU KNOW, IMMEDIATELY.I WONDER IF WE SHOULD GET, UH, ASK, UH, IS RICHARD BRIAN AVAILABLE? 'CAUSE WHILE WE'RE HERE MAY LEAVE, YOU KNOW, RICHARD, BRIAN, UM, OR EVEN JERRY WOULD WANT TO, UH, THEY'RE NOT ON RIGHT.
NO, I THINK WE'RE GOOD ON THAT.
IT'S JUST TOO BAD SOMEONE HAD TO BE STABBED IN ORDER FOR THIS ALL TO COME TOGETHER, BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING ON TOP OF EVERYTHING.
I WONDER IF, UM, WE SHOULD HAVE, UM, LIKE A, AN INITIAL WORK SESSION MEETING, SAY AT MASERO PARK, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME OF THE RESIDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SOMETIME IN JULY WHERE WE COULD SAY, BECAUSE THERE'S ALSO PARK IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING.
AND I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NICE FOR PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO SEE THAT THEY'VE BEEN LISTENED TO AND KNOW, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD, YOU KNOW, TIME WHERE WE COULD SAY, LOOK, WE DID THIS, WE DID THIS, WE DID THAT.
YOU KNOW, THESE ARE THE PARK IMPROVEMENTS, THESE ARE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WOULD THAT MAKE SENSE? UH, OR I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO DO THAT IN, IN ADDITION TO OUR REGULAR WORK SESSIONS BECAUSE AS WE MENTIONED BEFORE, WE HAVE A LOT TO CATCH UP WITH.
MAYBE WE COULD TAKE LIKE A EARLY EVENING, UH, ONE WHEN WOULD YOU THINK PROBABLY A MONTH FROM NOW.
WE COULD BE A PRESS ANNOUNCEMENT TO FITZ DONE.
THIS IS WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE TO OUR PARTNERS ON THE DELI SIDE FOR SIDEWALK.
SO, AND I, AND I THINK KNOWING WHAT WAS GOING ON, 'CAUSE YOU WERE WORKING WITH CANDACE WELL BEFORE THE STABBING, THAT THERE WAS QUITE A BIT OF, UH, EMPHASIS ON MAKING CHANGES OVER THERE.
YOU WERE LOOKING AT THE ELECTRIC METERS AND THE NUMBER OF ELECTRIC METERS ON THE SIDE OF THE PARK.
SUPPOSEDLY A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE AND, UH, ADDRESSING THAT.
BUT THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A TRAGEDY TO, UM, TO UM, EXPEDITE, EXPEDITE THINGS EVEN MORE.
PAUL, YOU WANNA THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I WANT TO MOVE OVER ON TO AN EXECUTIVE SESSION AND YOU WANNA SPEAK.
SO WE'LL HAVE THE CHIEF FIRST, UM, FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING, UH, MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS.
LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.
I NOTICED YOU DON'T HAVE AN ENVELOPE.