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OKAY.[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD AGENDA WEDNESDAY, July 19, 2023 – 7:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ]
I LEFT MY PHONE IN THE CAR.HOW WILL IT, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA, WE'RE NOT GONNA RUN OVER TIME TONIGHT.
EVERYBODY HAVE THE MICS ON? WELCOME EVERYONE ON ZOOM.
JUST A REMINDER TO KEEP YOUR MICS MUTED UNTIL CALLED UPON TO SPEAK.
WE HAVE NO BOARD MEMBERS ON ZOOM TONIGHT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
WELCOME TO THE JULY 19TH, UH, PLANNING BOARD MEETING, UH, IN OUR WORK SESSION.
UH, MR. SCHMIDT, PLEASE CALL THE ROLE CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ.
MS. DAVIS? HERE NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBERS TOM HAY AND KURT DESY ARE NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING, OKAY? OKAY.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE MINUTES? I HAVE ONE.
UH, B UM, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6.
IT STARTS OUT WITH, TO JULY MEETING.
UH, THE BOARD WILL, NOW WE WILL NOT, IT'S NOT THAT WE WILL, WE WOULD REQUEST EXTENSION.
SO WE CAN JUST ACCEPT NO, NO, NO, NO.
AND I DO WANT TO DISCUSS THAT.
I'M GONNA DISCUSS THAT IN A MINUTE TOO, BECAUSE I HAVE A NO, NO SUGGESTION.
I THOUGHT WE HAD TO GET APPROVAL FOR WILL IS CORRECT.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, I STILL HAD A COMMENT BECAUSE WE STILL DIDN'T EXACTLY HAVE MY COMMENT CORRECTLY.
SO WE, ON BATTERY STORAGE, DO YOU HAVE THE, WE REVIEW OF THE REVIEW OF THAT? THAT'S GO DO YOU WANNA READ? YEAH, JUST READ IT INTO THE RECORD.
SO, AND NO COMMENTS AFTERWARDS.
THIS IS, UH, NUMBER TWO, APPROVAL OF MINUTES ON PAGE ONE OF THE JULY 5TH, 2023 MINUTES.
WE'LL NOW READ SECOND SENTENCE CHAIRPERSON.
SCHWARTZ REQUESTED THAT THE MINUTES REFLECT THAT HE MISSTATED HIS POSITION AT THE MEETING OF JUNE 7TH, 2023, WHERE HE SAID BATTERY STORAGE SYSTEMS ARE NO GOOD WITHOUT ALTERNATIVE ENERGY.
HE MEANT TO SAY BATTERY ENERGY STORAGE SYSTEMS ARE OF MARGINAL ENVIRONMENTAL BENEFIT WITHOUT CORRESPONDING ALTERNATIVE ENERGY.
THAT, THAT HOPEFULLY ONCE AND FOR ALL CLARIFIES THE RECORD.
AND YOU SATISFIED WITH THAT? I, SINCE I WROTE IT? YES.
THAT WAS THE ONLY WAY I, IT SEEMED TO TELL US WHAT YOU WANT TO PRINT, PLEASE.
UM, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED THEN? SO MOVED.
ALL OPPOSED, ABSTENTIONS, NO COMMENTS IN THE PEANUT GALLERY.
FIRST OF ALL, UH, AUGUST MEETING IS BEING CHANGED TO AUGUST 16TH FROM AUGUST 2ND.
THE REASON WAS, IT WAS QUESTIONABLE WHETHER WE COULD HAVE A PHYSICAL PRESENCE HERE AND HAVE A QUORUM ON THE SECOND.
UH, I DO WANNA COMMENT ON THAT.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO SEE WHAT YOUR ATTENDANCE RECORD IS WHEN IT COMES TO, UH, UH, THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD, YOU CAN, UH, CALL ME.
I'LL, I'LL BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
I DID AN ANA, UH, I HAD PAT PATTY DO AN ANALYSIS.
UM, SO JUST BE AWARE, BE AWARE OF, OF HOW, HOW YOU'RE DOING.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE ON THE BOARD ARE ACTUALLY, UH, PULLING THEIR WEIGHT.
NOT EVERYBODY, BUT MOST PEOPLE ARE.
UM, SO THAT, THAT'S THE SITUATION WITH THAT.
BUT I'LL GIVE YOU SPECIFIC NUMBERS IF YOU WANT.
WHY, WHY DON'T YOU SEND EACH MEMBER THE INDIVIDUAL REPORT? I CAN DO THAT.
IT'S JUST GOING TO BE A MATTER OF A FAIR AMOUNT OF MY TIME TO DO IT.
BECAUSE IT'S ALL IN ONE SPREADSHEET.
CAN YOU, PATTY, JUST BREAK IT UP AND JUST SEND, SEND EACH ONE WHERE THERE, THERE ARE AND IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OKAY.
OF WE, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED AT ALL ABOUT WHERE YOU ARE.
YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE WITH THE PERFECT TENANT.
WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SCREW UP JUST 'CAUSE OF YOUR 60TH ANNIVERSARY.
I CAN'T UNDERSTAND THAT I MISSED THIS.
S THERE IS WIFI ON THE, ON A BOAT, YOU KNOW,
WE DIDN'T, SHE'S NOT WATCHING IS SHE TONIGHT.
SO I, I JUST WANTED TO JUST, I ALL KIDDING ASIDE, REITERATE, WE DIDN'T WRITE THE STATE LAW, BUT THE STATE LAW IS WHAT IT IS AND IT REQUIRES A PHYSICAL PRESENCE AND IT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF EVERYBODY ON THIS BOARD UNLESS THEY HAVE A HEALTH PROBLEM, A FAMILY ISSUE, OR SOME KIND OF WORK CONFLICT TO TRY TO MAKE IT HERE.
THAT'S ALL I ASK, IS TO DO THE BEST YOU CAN.
IT SHOULDN'T BE OPTIONAL TO BE HERE AND
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THINK IT CAN JUST GO ON ZOOM.'CAUSE THAT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
SO, UM, JUST, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UH, WE DISCUSSED ELMWOOD THE LAST TIME.
UM, THE, UH, APPLICANT, UH, HAS, UH, AGREED TO A 30 DAY EXTENSION.
REASON FOR THE 30 DAY EXTENSION IS THAT WE CAN'T EVEN APPROVE IT YET BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL SUBDIVISION PLOT FOR IT.
AND WE'RE STILL HAVING, HAVING SOME ISSUES WITH THE SOIL REMOVAL TOO.
AND SOME OF LO BELLA'S QUESTION, THE QUESTIONS HAVE NOT QUITE BEEN FINALIZED.
SO WE HAVE A 30 DAY EXTENSION TILL AFTER THE DAY AFTER OUR AUGUST MEETING, OR TWO DAYS AFTER OUR AUGUST MEETING.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL BE ABLE TO, I I'D LOVE TO GET IT ON OFF OUR DOCKET IN AUGUST.
IT'S REALLY MORE ADMINISTRATIVE ISSUES THAT ARE KEEPING US FROM VOTING.
'CAUSE THE LAST TIME WE AGREED TO VOTE.
UM, WHAT ELSE DID I HAVE ON MY LIST HERE? UM, IS MATT ON TONIGHT OR NOT? MATT IS, YES.
UM, KAUFMAN IS NOW ASKED FOR, I THINK THIS IS A RECORD EXTENSION SEVEN CLOSE BATTLE AUTO.
UM, THERE WAS SEEMED TO BE, UM, SOME, UM, ISSUES WITH THE PLOT, WHICH WAS FILED WITH THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
SO THEY'RE WAITING FOR THAT SO THEY CAN GET THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY TO SIGN OFF ON IT.
SO IT WAS ASKING FOR YET ANOTHER EXTENSION.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO EXPIRE ON THE 27TH.
WE GAVE THEM, WHAT WAS IT, TWO, TWO MONTH EXTENSION? NO.
WAS THAT THREE? THAT WASN'T QUITE THREE MONTHS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE, WE CAN GIVE THEM 180 DAYS WE'RE PERMITTED TO.
MICHAEL, YOU ALWAYS HAVE THE BEST PERSPECTIVE ON THIS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO? I'M SURE NOBODY WANTS TO GET THIS DONE MORE QUICKLY THAN THE APPLICANTS.
WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT THEN PLEASE? SO, MOTION.
UH, WE HAVE ONE WETLAND WATER COURSE, MINOR WETLAND WATER COURSE THAT, UH, MATT NEEDS TO TALK TO US ABOUT.
MATT, AND HE'S GONNA UTILIZE THE SHARE SCREEN, SO THE PLANS WILL BE UP ON THE OVERHEAD.
UM, ACTUALLY, AARON, I SOME MINOR TECHNICAL THING.
UM, MY COMPUTER WAS, HAD A FRESH INSTALL AND THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME ISSUES WITH CONNECTING TO THE NETWORK, SO I CAN'T ACTUALLY ACCESS, CAN YOU DO IT? UM, THE DRIVE TO SHOW UP THE, TO BRING UP THE PLANS? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NEED, I DON'T KNOW IF WE EVEN NEED TO, IF YOU CAN DESCRIBE THE PROJECT BECAUSE IT'S PRETTY MINOR.
SO THIS IS, UH, CASE NUMBER P D 23 DASH 15 CURING, UH, LOCATED AT 20 PARADISE DRIVE.
THEY ARE, UH, DOING A MINOR EXTENSION OF THEIR FRONT PORCH LANDING, UM, WHICH HAPPENS TO FALL WITHIN THE WETLAND, EXCUSE THE WATERCOURSE BUFFER AREA OF A STREAM THAT IS 80 SOME ODD FEET AWAY FROM THEIR, UM, THE AREA OF WORK AND IS ACROSS THE STREET ON A SEPARATE PRECINCT PROPERTY.
UH, THEY MET WITH THE, UH, CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AT THEIR, UH, JULY 13TH MEETING AND PROCEED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AND EVEN THE MINOR NATURE OF THIS AND HOW FAR IT'S FROM THE LAW.
FIRST, I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU TURN IT OVER TO ME FOR, UH, DECISION.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE WHERE THE WATER, CROSS WATER WATERCOURSE IS LITERALLY ACROSS THE STREET.
I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, THE LAW SHOULD BE AMENDED, YOU KNOW, SO THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS.
SECOND, I DON'T THINK I HAVE NOTHING MORE TO SAY AND THAT WE SHOULD APPROVE.
YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS? UH, YES.
ONE, JUST IN RESPONSE TO MICHAEL, QUICKLY, HISTORICALLY, EVEN A PROJECT LIKE THIS, THE BOARD WOULD HAVE A WORK SESSION, POTENTIALLY EVEN A PUBLIC HEARING.
WE'RE STILL GOING TO, OVER TIME, OVER TIME, WE'VE THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, AND STAFF HAS CREATED A POLICY, WHICH, WHICH IS OUTLINED IN THE CODE THAT SAYS THERE CAN BE A WETLAND INSPECTOR APPROVAL WHEN HE REPORTS HE OR SHE REPORTS TO THE BOARD.
SO THIS IS AS EXPEDITED AS WE CAN UNDER THE CURRENT CODE.
NOT TO SAY WE CAN'T UPDATE THE CODE, BUT I WANTED TO AWARE.
I APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, A VAST IMPROVEMENT FROM MANY YEARS AGO.
BUT I THINK THE, I THINK THE CODE SHOULD BE AMENDED SO THAT THIS DOES NOT QUALIFY
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AS A WETLAND WATERCOURSE APPLICATION.IT WE REDEFINED AS A MINOR WETLAND WATER, NOT EVEN AS A MINOR WETLAND IF THE WETLAND IS ACROSS THE STREET, RIGHT.
DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT WITH FRANK? I, I'D LIKE TO GET FRANK.
I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN THINK I'D LIKE TO.
I'D LIKE TO GIVE FRANK JUST FRANK'S INPUT ON WHAT HE WANTS TO DO WITH THAT.
I JUST WANT TO GIVE A OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR.
I MEAN, MAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE, MAYBE THAT'S TOO BROAD.
BUT WE'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE, RIGHT? AND THERE'S NEVER BEEN SO MANY A SITUATION WHERE A WATERCOURSE ACROSS THE STREET CREATES ANY CONCERNS.
LOOK, EVEN THE ONES THAT WE DO DO THAT, WE HAVE REVIEWED A LOT OF THEM.
IT, THAT IT SEEMS THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'VE HAD, WHERE THERE'S AN EXISTING HOUSE THAT'S COMPLETELY WITHIN THE WATERCOURSE AND SOMEONE WANTS TO JUST MODIFY A DECK BY FIVE FEET.
OH, I DON'T WANNA DO IT UNTIL THAT'S HOW WE MET.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU WERE GONNA DO IT AGAIN.
IN FACT, I WANT A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO WE'LL ABSOLUTELY LOOK INTO THAT.
MAYBE IT'S A POTENTIAL WHERE IT'S JUST A FULL ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL.
AND, AND, AND LOOK, YOU KNOW, I, I WASN'T THINKING ABOUT MYSELF WHEN I MADE THE RECOMMENDATION.
NO, BUT, BUT, BUT IF I RECALL, I HAD TO SPEND ABOUT $5,000.
AND IN THAT CASE, THE WATER COURSE WAS 10 FEET FROM MY HOUSE.
BECAUSE THEY NEED, THEY NEEDED THE, THEY NEEDED THE ARCHITECTURAL.
I HAD TO GET THE ENGINEER AND THE TEST TOOLS AND ALL THIS STUFF.
AND, AND THIS, THIS APPLICANT IS PAYING HOW MUCH, COUPLE OF THOUSAND DOLLARS.
I, I GOTTA SAY IT'S INTER, I, I LIKE IT BECAUSE I THINK WE NEED, NEED TO BE MORE CITIZEN FRIENDLY THAN WE ARE.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY, I SEE CERTAIN THINGS GOING FORWARD RIGHT NOW THAT ARE THE OPPOSITE, LIKE THE BAMBOO LAW, WHICH IS UNBELIEVABLE TO ME.
I HOPE IT COMES TO US BECAUSE I, I KNOW WHAT I THINK OF IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY COST MONEY TO TAKE DOWN THOSE TREES AND THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOT, EVERYBODY HAS THE MONEY TO TAKE DOWN THOSE THINGS, WHETHER YOU LIKE THEM OR NOT.
GO AND TALK TO ME ABOUT BAMBOO.
I'M NOT, YOU SHOULD HAVE BAMBOO GROWN ON YOUR PROPERTY.
I'M NOT A BAMBOO FOR YOU'LL BE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE.
WELL, WELL, LET'S DISCUSS IT WITH THE TIME.
THAT'S THE DIFF THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE.
UM, AND THIS IS A CASE WHERE WHEN WE CAN STREAMLINE SOMETHING WHERE THERE ISN'T ANY ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU KNOW, THERE OTHER THINGS THAT WE GOTTA BE MORE STRICT ON.
UM, THIS ISN'T ONE OF THEM, THAT'S FOR SURE.
I'D LIKE, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WOULD LIKE YOU TO TALK TO, TO, UH, TO, TO, UH, FRANK AND SEE WHAT HE THINKS, HOW IT COULD BE RESOLVED.
CAN YOU JUST, WE, WE DIDN'T OH, I'M SORRY.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE TURN, UH, THIS PROJECT OVER TO THE WETLAND INSPECTOR.
AND THAT IT QUALIFIES AS A TYPE TWO ACTION, AND IT QUALIFIES AS A TYPE TWO.
YOU WANNA DO IT SEPARATE? OKAY.
UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO DECLARE THIS TYPE TWO UNDER SPEAKER THEN? THANK YOU.
YOU ARE, YOU'LL GET MY BILL IN THE MAIL.
AND CAN I NOW HAVE THE MOTION TO TURN THIS O TO DECLARE THIS WITH MINOR WETLANDS AND TURN IT OVER TO THE WETLANDS INSPECTOR.
CAN I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? NO, SHE'S ALL BUSINESS TONIGHT.
UM, YOU ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT MONA AT A CERTAIN POINT, RIGHT? AYE, I SHOULD DO THAT NOW.
NOW ARE YOU GONNA, LEMME GET A SIP WATER.
SOMEBODY SING SOMETHING WHILE HE MICHAEL'S OUT OF THE ROOM.
HOW? LIKE COLD MUSIC? YOU MEAN LIKE WHAT MUSIC? COLD MUSIC? YEAH.
IN CORRESPONDENCE WILL LEAVE BE DISCUSSION.
WE'RE ABOUT TO WHAT? DISCUSS WHAT
I TRIED TO FORGET THAT, BUT IT IS, I ALMOST FORGOT THAT.
I DO WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT, UH, MONA FRY TAG HA HAS, UH, PUT IN HER REC AT HER RESIGNATION AS AN ALTERNATE BOARD MEMBER.
UM, MONA'S A VERY SPECIAL PERSON IN THIS TOWN.
I WANT EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT.
NOT JUST HERE, WHERE SHE CLEARLY ADDED AN IMPROVED, MANY, MANY, UH, AS MOST OF YOU DO.
BUT SHE, SHE ALWAYS HAD HER OWN PERSPECTIVE AND IMPROVED, PARTICULARLY THINGS LIKE HANDICAP ACCESS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD, EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR THING THAT WAS HERS, UH, ON MANY, MANY LOTS, INCLUDING WHAT WE DID.
LIKE A CAPTAIN LAWRENCE, FOR EXAMPLE.
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SHE AN IMPACT ON A LOT OF PROJECTS.UH, WHAT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, THIS WAS ONLY THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG OF WHAT SHE DID FOR THE TOWN OVER THE YEARS.
SHE HAD BEEN ON NUMEROUS COMMITTEES AND, UH, VOLUNTEER AS A VOLUNTEER AND, YOU KNOW, NEVER ASKED FOR ANY, ANYTHING IN RETURN.
NOT JUST ON THIS BOARD, BUT I KNOW PAUL WAS GONNA SEND OUT THE POLICE, UH, OUR POLICE CHIEF TO ARREST HER.
UM, I THOUGHT THAT WAS VERY FUNNY.
BUT, UM, SERIOUSLY, THAT'S HOW, HOW MUCH SHE HAD DONE FOR THIS TOWN.
SHE WAS CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE.
WE HAVE OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS, ON THIS BOARD THAT HAD DONE THAT.
UH, THEY MAY BE WEARING A BLUE SHIRT TONIGHT.
UM, AND NOT GET PAID BY THE TOWN, THE OTHER VOLUNTEER WHO HAS ALSO PUT IN THAT KIND OF TIME.
I THINK OUR, ALL OF US ARE UNDERAPPRECIATED, AND SHE CLEARLY IS.
WITH ALL THE WORKSHEET SHE DID, SHE'S GONNA BE MISSED.
HOPEFULLY SHE'LL DO THAT IN SOUTH CAROLINA TOO.
SHE'S STILL GONNA BE COMING UP.
IT'S JUST THAT SHE'S FOCUSING MORE ON HER LIVING IN SOUTH CAROLINA, WHICH WE KNEW WAS GONNA HAPPEN.
THE, THE PURPLE ONE IS NORTH, THE RED ONE IS SOUTH.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, SHE'S STILL GONNA BE COMING UP, BUT SHE, SHE'S FOCUSING ON, ON, ON HER HOUSE DOWN THERE NOW.
SO, UM, I INVITED HER TONIGHT.
UNFORTUNATELY, SHE HAD DINNER PLANS, SO I'M GONNA ASK HER TO WATCH THIS VIDEO TOMORROW.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA MISS YOU BY THE WAY.
YOU CAN SHIP CANDY TO ERRANDS, FEDEX IT TO HIS DESK THE DAY OF THE MEETING.
WE'LL PUT IN OUR ORDER FOR SUGAR FREE CANDY FOR THAT.
ALL KIDDING ASIDE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SERVICE, MONS.
UH, ONE LAST THING IN CORRESPONDENCE AND BEFORE WE ACTUALLY COMMENT ON, ON IT, I, I WANT TO TRY TO COUCH WHAT THIS SHOULD BE VERSUS WHAT WE GOT SENT.
UM, THIS IS CASE, UH, NUMBER PB 1932.
IT WAS A REVIEW OF COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITION FOR ONE OF OUR LETTER OF FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, AS YOU RECALL.
THIS IS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS MORE AND MORE WHERE WE'VE HAD SUBDIVISIONS WHERE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD.
AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKING THEM NOW TO COME BACK AND REVIEW WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH US.
UM, THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED THIS APPLICANT TO DO.
AND IF THE APPLICANT SENT US A HUGE AMOUNT OF INFORMATION, PROBABLY MORE THAN WE, NOT, PROBABLY MORE THAN WE NEEDED.
THE ONLY THING FOR US, I THINK, TO LOOK AT, I DON'T THINK WE REALLY NEED TO GO THROUGH HIS ROOF PLANS OR EVEN HIS SITE PLAN BECAUSE WE'VE APPROVED THE SITE PLAN.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S AN ISSUE FOR US, I THINK IS LOOKING AT THE, THE, UM, WHAT I TALKING HEIGHT, ELEVATION.
FROM THE STREET, SENIOR MOMENT, THE ELEVATION AND, AND RELATIVE TO THE, TO THE, UH, TO THE NEIGHBORS.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'D REALLY LIKE TO FOCUS ON TONIGHT ON THAT.
AND IF THAT'S LOOKS GOOD, WE SHOULD THANK THEM FOR THE, THEIR TIME AND MOVE ON AND SAY WE'RE DONE WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO IS IS, IS THE, IS THE SQUARE FEET THE, THE, THE FOOTPRINT THAT'S PROPOSED? MM-HMM.
AND WE HAVE MR. VAN NESS AS WELL.
UM, WE'LL LET THEM SPEAK TO IT.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION QUICKLY.
COULD YOU GO AND THERE'S ONE OTHER THING, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THEM GO THROUGH, OH MY GOODNESS.
THERE'S A HOUSE THAT IS FROM THE 18 HUNDREDS, CORRECT? ONE THAT THE ARCHITECTURE, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T CLASH, DON'T HAVE TO BE SIMILAR, IT DOESN'T CLASH.
SO WHAT WOULD BE NICE TO SEE A PICTURE OF THAT HAPPEN? WE, WE HAVE IT.
WE HAVE, THEY WERE YOU, DID YOU BURIED US WITH INFORMATION, MR. NESS.
I'M TRYING TO KEEP THE QUESTION, HAVE IT THAN NOT HAVE IT.
WELL, MAYBE I'M TRYING TO KEEP THE QUESTIONS DOWN TO WHAT WE'RE FOCUSING ON THOUGH.
SO THAT'S FOR YOUR BENEFIT AS MUCH AS IT IS OURS.
SO WE DO HAVE MS. STOLL HERE ON ZOOM.
AND, UH, WE'LL TURN THINGS OVER BRIEFLY SO THAT SHE CAN WALK THE BOARD THROUGH, UH, THE ELEVATION DRAWING.
AND ALSO MICHAEL'S QUESTION, TO ANSWER MICHAEL'S QUESTION, THE INTERIOR LAYOUT ON NONE OF THAT.
CORRECT? MS. DOLL, YOU'RE ON MUTE.
UM, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE ME THE, UH, PRESENTER? YOU CAN, YOU'RE PERMITTED TO SHARE SCREEN.
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OKAY.CAN YOU SEE THE FRONT ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE NOW? NO.
SO THERE, UH, AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE, THERE SHOULD BE THE GREEN SHARE SCREEN OPTION.
THERE IS NOT THE GREEN SHARE SCREEN OPTION AT THE BOTTOM OF MY PAGE.
SO I'LL, I'LL, I'LL DO IT ON MY OWN AS A HOST SINCE I HAVE THE PLAN.
IF YOU'RE NOT USED TO IT USING ZOOM, YOU'RE ALWAYS FINDING THINGS LIKE IF I'M ON TEAMS OR SOMETHING AFTER YOU ZOOM, ZOOM, YOU CAN NEVER FIND ANYTHING.
I MEAN, I HAVE THE SHARE SCREEN OPTION, BUT IT ISN'T, UH, SIGNING IT UP HERE.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS, I DON'T, CAN YOU SEE MY SCREEN WHERE I HAVE THE, UH, IS THAT THE, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THE, UM, RENDER EL FRONT ELEVATION OF THE HOUSE, CORRECT? I HAVE THE, UH, THE TWO HOMES.
THE, THE LATEST IMAGE THAT YOU PROVIDED SIDE BY SIDE.
THAT'S THE CURRENT HOME ON THE RIGHT.
THAT'S THE CURRENT HOME ON THE RIGHT.
YOU RE YOU REDID THAT HOUSE, RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT NOW I RECALL, YEAH.
SO, UM, CHARLIE VANNESS AND, AND I WAS THE ARCHITECT FOR THAT HOUSE AS WELL.
UM, AND THE, UH, YOU CAN SEE ON THIS, THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPHIC STREET VIEW THAT SHOWS THE HOUSE AS IT, UM, THE, THE OLD HOUSE, CHARLIE'S HOUSE, THE WAY IT IS NOW, UH, WITH THE NEW DRIVEWAY.
AND THE ON THE LEFT IS A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED NEW HOUSE.
UH, THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE THROUGH THESE TWO, UM, EXISTING POSTS HERE.
UM, THE, THIS IS A PHOTO, SO IT STILL SHOWS THE, UM, THE DRIVEWAY UNFINISHED AND THE P OF WATER IN FRONT OF IT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT WILL BE THE LOCATION FOR THE DRIVEWAY.
AND THIS IS HOW IT'S SHOWN ON THE, UH, APPROVED SITE PLAN.
WHAT DOES THIS, WHAT DOES THE SIT BACK IN THE HOUSE ON THE OTHER SIDE, DO YOU KNOW? 'CAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT'S SET MUCH FURTHER FORWARD THAN THE YES.
THE HISTORIC HOUSE, CHARLIE'S HOUSE IS 110 FEET BACK FROM THE STREET, FROM THE, FROM THE, UM, PROPERTY LINE.
IT'S A LONGER, AND THE, THE NEW HOUSE, AS PER THE, UH, P BOARD APPROVED SITE PLAN IS, UH, 50 SOME ODD FEET.
50 FEET BACK, UH, 50, HOLD ON.
WHAT'S CODE? UH, ONE SIX FEET BACK, OR 53 FEET, TWO INCHES BACK.
SO IT'S, UH, THE HISTORIC HOUSE IS STILL, BUT IT'S CLOSE TO DOUBLE.
UM, THE, THE, THE TREES THAT SHOW BETWEEN THE TWO HOUSES ARE, UM, ARE THE EXISTING TREES.
UH, WE WILL BE PLANTING MORE TREES HERE AND ALSO TREES, UM, PER THE, UH, APPROVED, UH, LANDSCAPE PLAN.
BUT, UM, THEY DON'T ACTUALLY, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE THAT, UH, FROM THIS VIEW.
SO YOU HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE LANDSCAPE PLAN.
UM, IT IS 20% SMALLER THAN, UH, THE HOUSE COULD BE, UM, BASED ON THE GROSS FLOOR AREA OF ALLOWED BY THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THE IDEA WAS NOT TO OVERWHELM, UH, THE HISTORIC HOUSE, UM, TO SORT OF NOT TRY TO MATCH IT IN ANY WAY BECAUSE THAT WOULD TAKE AWAY FROM THE, UH, THE SPECIALNESS OF, OF IT.
UM, WE PROPOSED THAT THE NEW HOUSE WILL BE WHITE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, IT'S QUITE LOW.
UM, WE COULD HAVE A HOUSE THAT'S 30 FEET HIGH AND AS BUILDING HEIGHT, AND OURS IS 25 FEET 11.
SO WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TRYING NOT TO OVERWHELM, UM, THE, UH, THE IN HISTORIC HOUSE AND TO REALLY SORT OF GESTURE TO IT AND RESPECT IT.
THE, THE GARAGE IS ON THE LEFT AS, UH, FOR THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN OR APPROVED SITE PLAN ON THE HOUSE STEPS DOWN ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT'S NOT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, AS HIGH OR AS AS WIDE, UM, WHEN YOU GET CLOSER TO THE HISTORIC HOUSE.
UM, AND, AND IN FACT, IF YOU LOOK AT THE FLOOR PLAN, THE NEW HOUSE STEPS AWAY FROM, UH, THE OLDER HOUSE AND, UM, IS DEEPER ON THE LEFT SIDE THAN IT IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE IN THE STORE PLAN.
UM, UM, WE'VE ALSO, UH, OUR BUILDING COVERAGE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE 18% BUILDING COVERAGE ON THE LOT.
WE'RE ONLY AT 10.75% CHANGE THAT.
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WE'RE NOT IN ANY WAY, UM, COMPETING IN BULK OR IN, UM, IN, UH, TRYING IN ANY WAY OVERSHADOWING THE EXISTING HOUSE.I THINK THEY LIVE PRETTY COMFORTABLY TOGETHER, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE, UM, FROM THE STREET VIEW.
MICHAEL, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? HAVE I HAVE A QUESTION? UM, IF, IF THE CAR PULLS INTO THE DRIVEWAY, IS IT GONNA BE ABLE TO TURN AROUND SO IT COMES OUT HEAD FIRST? YEAH.
AND, AND LOOK, I I JUST HAVE ONE COMMENT.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR US TO REVIEW, YOU KNOW, THE ACTUAL, WHAT THE ACTUAL BUILDING IS GONNA LOOK LIKE IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN WE APPROVE THE SITE PLAN.
BUT THE IDEA OF TO, OF OUR REVIEWS TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THE GENERAL BALLPARK OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE NOT AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD.
AND, UM, I AM PERFECTLY A HUNDRED PERCENT SATISFIED.
YOU KNOW, WITH THIS HOUSE, THAT WAS, THAT WAS ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHY WHEN I SAID MR. PENEZ, YOU SAID TOO MUCH TO US.
THE QUESTION WAS EXACTLY WHAT MICHAEL ASKED.
WE WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT IT, YOU WEREN'T DOING SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T BELONG, IT DOESN'T BELONG IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO ESPECIALLY WHERE STARTED, I WAS JUST STEPPING IN SONY RIGHT.
UM, RIGHT OFF RIGHT BEHIND THE, THE RESERVOIR THERE YEAH.
UM, BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WE DO IT.
AND AS MICHAEL SAID, WE'RE NOT AN ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD.
THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS SOMETHING THAT IS UNDER OUR JURISDICTION.
BUT, SO, UM, DO WE NEED TO TAKE A VOTE OR NO, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER VOTING THAT THE APPLICANT HAS SATISFIED THE REQUIREMENTS UNDER CONDITION 4.1 OKAY.
OF ITS, UH, SUBDIVISION DECISION.
IT'S A NICE, A, IT'S, I LIKE THE ARCHITECTURE.
IT'S A BRAND NEW HOUSE, WHICH IS WHERE I LIKE, WHICH I REALLY LIKE.
WELL, YOU'RE LIVING NEXT DOOR, RIGHT? IF YOU LIVE NEXT.
I LIVE IN, YEAH, I LIVE IN THERE.
SO YOU, AND YOU OBVIOUSLY LIKE, APPRECIATED OLD ARCHITECTURE.
YOU WOULDN'T BE LIVING NEXT DOOR.
SO IT'S, YOU CAN SEE THE APPRECIATION.
SO YEAH, WE, WE TRIED TO KEEP THE, THE STYLE OF 18 HUNDREDS IN THAT HOUSE.
GOOD LUCK WITH, WE'LL HAVE TO, I CAN BRING TO THE BOARD NOW, I MEAN TO THE, UH, BUILDING THE DEPARTMENT, DEPARTMENT BUILDING.
DO WE NEED CALL, CALL ME TOMORROW? WE NEED TO, YEAH, WE JUST NEED TO RELEASE A LETTER TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
WE'LL, WE'LL DO RELEASE A NOTIFICATION THAT THE BOARD TOOK CARE OF IT AND OKAY.
HAVE A GREAT, HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
YOU HAVE A GOOD REST OF THE SUMMER TOO.
UH, PB 22 DASH 12, THE PAN, UH, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
UM, WHY DID WE, THERE'S A REASON WE HAVE TO REVISIT IT, SO WE'LL HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT.
IT'S ACTUALLY ALL STAFF'S FAULT.
SO AT THE LAST MEETING ON JULY 5TH, THE BOARD VOTED TO APPROVE, UH, TO ISSUE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPROVAL AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPROVAL.
UPON EXECUTING THE FINAL DECISION, STAFF IDENTIFIED THAT A SEC.
THESE SECTION RELATED TO BLASTING AND CHIPPING OF ROCK WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT DECISION.
AND THERE IS ROCK IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT.
SO WE AMENDED THE DECISION, IT'S REWRITTEN TO, UH, WOULD VOTE THAT.
SO WE NEED TO TAKE TWO VOTES THEN.
SO YOU WOULD TAKE TWO VOTES TO AMEND THE STEEP SLOPE, PERMIT APPROVAL TREE REMOVAL, AND AMEND THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPROVAL.
IS IT IN BOTH? IT'S IN THE TREE REMOVAL THERE IN ONE.
THIS DOCUMENT, THE TREE REMOVAL REALLY DOESN'T HAVE MUCH TO DO WITH THE ROCK, BUT WE'LL TAKE TWO VOTES ANYWAY.
COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AS AMENDED, PLEASE? SO MOVED.
WALTER, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
COULD I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, TREE REMOVAL PERMIT AS A AMENDED PLEASE? SO MOVED.
LESLIE, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
CASAL, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOME SPECIAL CONDITIONS THAT WERE ADDED BY MR. CANNING THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS.
SO, UH, BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING WITH RESPECT TO, OH, LET ME, AND THAT'S PB 2130 CASAL SUBDIVISION AT 34 DASH 40 50 PLUS
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10 SAW MILL RIVER ROAD.IT'S FOR PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION SITE PLAN PLANNING SLOPE SLEEP, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND AUNE REMOVAL PERMIT.
SO IN CONNECTION WITH PROJECT PB 2130 BOARD HAS BEFORE IT THIS EVENING, A DRAFT LETTER OF PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
UM, CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ INDICATED THAT THE BOARD ALSO HAS AUTHORITY OVER THE SITE PLAN, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS.
THOSE, UH, DECISIONS ON THOSE MATTERS WILL COME AT THE TIME THE BOARD CONSIDERS FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
SO THIS EVENING, STRICTLY LIMITED TO THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
WE DID RECEIVE A COPY OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT EARLIER TODAY, WHICH ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, THERE ARE A FEW SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT I WANTED TO WALK THE BOARD THROUGH, INCLUDING ONE, UH, SUGGESTED BY MR. CANNING WHO REVIEWED, UH, WITH KIMLEY HORNE, THE TRAFFIC AND, UH, PARKING RELATED MATTERS ON THE PROJECT.
FIRST, UM, PAGE SIX, CONDITION 4.7 STATES THAT THE NORTHERN MOST CURB CUT ON THE PROPERTY SHALL BE USED FOR VEHICLE INGRESS ONLY AS DEPICTED ON THE PLANS LISTED IN SECTION ONE OF THIS APPROVAL.
AND AS, UH, REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, 4.9 ON THE SAME PAGE INDICATES THE APPLICANT OR SUCCESSOR AND INTEREST SHALL EXTEND THE EXISTING SIDEWALK ACROSS THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY, SUBJECT TO ALL APPLICABLE NEW YORK STATE D O T REQUIREMENTS AND APPROVALS.
SO THAT WAS DISCUSSED BEFORE THE BOARD, THE FULL EXTENT OF THE SITE FOUR POINT 10 OUTDOOR STORAGE OF MATERIAL SHALL BE LIMITED TO NO MORE THAN SIX FEET IN HEIGHT AND SHALL BE SUITABLY SCREENED BY A FENCE OR OTHER MEANS AT LEAST SIX FEET IN HEIGHT.
FOUR POINT 11 IS THE ONE THAT MR. CANNING HAD SUGGESTED.
IT STATES VEHICLE MOVEMENTS INTO AND OUT OF THE SITE AT THE MIDDLE.
CURB CUT OR CENTRAL CURB CUT SHALL BE MONITORED FOR A PERIOD OF ONE YEAR FOLLOWING FINAL PROJECT COMPLETION, WHICH THE BOARD ASKED WHAT'S THE PROPOSED CONSTRUCTION BUILD OUT TIMEFRAME.
AND WE GOT A RESPONSE TODAY THAT IT'S LIKELY TWO TO THREE MONTHS, BUT SPREAD OUT A LITTLE LONGER THAN THAT.
MONITORED BY WHOM? SORRY? IT SAYS MOVEMENT SHALL BE MONITORED BY WHOM AND FOR WHAT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA, LET ME FINISH AND THEN I'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
SHOULD VEHICLES UTILIZING THE MIDDLE DRIVEWAY OR CENTRAL DRIVEWAY BE A FREQUENT AND ONGOING ISSUE DURING THAT ONE YEAR PERIOD IN THE JUDGMENT OF THE TOWN OR ITS AGENTS, THE APPLICANT OR SUCCESSOR AND INTEREST SHALL BE REQUIRED TO RETURN TO THE PLANNING BOARD WITH THE FOLLOWING.
WHAT SPECIFIC MEASURES THE APPLICANT OR SUCCESSOR IN INTEREST BELIEVES WILL RESOLVE THE ISSUES IDENTIFIED? TWO, A TIMETABLE FOR THE IMPLEMENTATION OF SUCH MEASURES.
AND THREE, HOW SUCH MEASURES WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AND ENFORCED.
PLANNING BOARD SHALL HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MODIFY THE PERMISSIBLE INGRESS AND OR EGRESS MOVEMENTS OF THE MIDDLE DRIVEWAY OR PROHIBIT INGRESS AND OR EGRESS ALTOGETHER FROM THE MIDDLE DRIVEWAY IF THE MEASURES PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT OR SUCCESS OR AN INTEREST ARE DEEMED TO BE INADEQUATE TO RESOLVE SUCH ISSUES.
GOING BACK TO MICHAEL'S QUESTION ON WHO WILL BE MONITORING, UM, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT PERHAPS WE SHOULD DISCUSS.
SO IT WASN'T IDENTIFIED BY MR. CANNING.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MR. CANNING SPOT CHECK.
MY BELIEF IS THAT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS, OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC, SAFETY, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OR OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT ARE GONNA RECEIVE COMPLAINTS, WHICH THEY'LL DOCUMENT.
AND WHAT WE CAN DO IN CONNECTION, IF THE BOARD APPROVES THIS CONDITION, IS REQUEST THAT ANY COMPLAINTS THAT COME IN BE FORWARDED TO OUR OFFICE SO THAT WE CAN REPORT BACK TO THE PLANNING.
I I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE IT THIS WAY.
IT'S VAGUE, IT'S APPROPRIATELY VAGUE.
RIGHT? BECAUSE BASICALLY IT MEANS IF THE PUBLIC COMPLAINS, IF THE POLICE COMPLAINT, IF THE NEIGHBORS COMPLAIN MM-HMM.
I MEAN AN EXAMPLE, BECAUSE I COULDN'T, I WAS THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR, FOR A SECOND.
LIKE, WHAT, WHAT CAN YOU DO? WHAT, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY, DAY AND AARON AND I WERE, AND SAYING, WELL, WHAT SCENARIO IS LIKELY FOR THAT TO HAPPEN? IS IT SOMEONE TAKING A LEFT IN OR LEFT OUT AND A LOT OF ACCIDENTS? THAT'S ONE POSSIBILITY.
UM, SO MAYBE YOU NEED A FLASHING LIGHT OR SOMETHING THERE.
THAT'S WHY I'M THE, THE POSSIBILITY, WHICH I THINK IS MORE OF A LONG SHOT, WHICH, WHICH AARON BROUGHT UP WAS YOU HAVE
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AN 18 WHEELER LEAVING AND AN 18 WHEELER COMING IN AT THE SAME TIME AND HOLDING UP TRAFFIC AS IT'S HAPPENING.I DON'T SEE THAT AS A BIG ISSUE.
'CAUSE ONE OF THEM'S GONNA HAVE TO STOP AND WAIT AND IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE THAT LONG FOR ME TO GET OUT.
BUT, BUT LET'S SEE, SEE WHAT HAPPENS.
I GOT A COUPLE OF TWO QUESTIONS.
IS THAT PART OF ROUTE NINE A BUSY? YES, IT CAN BE AT TIMES.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKES, IT'S NOT LIKE ELMSFORD.
NO, NO, IT'S NOT THAT, IT'S NOT THAT BAD.
YOU YOU WORKED THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
I, THINGS HAVE CHANGED THOUGH SINCE I MOVED UP HERE IN TERMS OF TRAFFIC, BUT WELL THERE'S NOW THERE'S NOW A BIG APARTMENT BUILDING ACROSS WAYS ON THAT ROAD.
IT'S A LITTLE MORE ACTIVE DOWN THERE.
ARE THESE CONDITIONS ACCEPTABLE TO THE APPLICANT? WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY OBJECTIONS.
AND WE DO HAVE MS. ROBERTS AND THE TEAM AVAILABLE YOU'RE HAPPY TO SPEAK ON, ON ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS YOU MAY HAVE.
UH, JOE AND I ARE HERE, JOE, UNLESS YOU FEEL OTHERWISE.
I I DON'T THINK THAT LUIGI WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT CONDITION.
I THINK LEAVING IT VAGUE IS, IS HELPFUL BECAUSE IT ALLOWS THE BOARD TO COME BACK AND ENFORCE IF THEY NEED TO.
BUT ALSO IF THERE ARE NO ISSUES, THEN THE BOARD ISN'T REQUIRED TO DO ANYTHING.
SO I I I THINK LUIGI WOULD BE FINE WITH THAT.
I DO HAVE QUESTION WALTER, GO AHEAD.
LESLIE OF FOUR POINT, UH, ONE.
OH, THE HEIGHT OF STACKING THE MATERIAL.
I THINK THAT CAME, I'M THE ONE WHO TALKED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, UH, IT WAS HIGH ABOVE THE SIDEWALK.
HOWEVER, YES, IT'S VALID AIR, BUT WHAT IF THEY WANT TO STACK ELSEWHERE AND NEXT TO THE WALL OR SOMETHING? IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
SHOULD IT STILL BE THE SIX FOOT LIMIT? LET'S ASK IF IT'S SO GO AHEAD, JOHN.
THE SIX ON MATT THE SIX, YEAH.
THE SIX FOOT, UH, HEIGHT LIMIT IS ACTUALLY, UH, REGULATED OR TOWN CODE.
IF THEY WANT TO STACK HIGHER THAN SIX FEET, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A PAINTING OF VARIANCE.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE WE'RE ALL COM OH, I'M SORRY.
LESLIE, YOU HAD A QUESTION? MM-HMM.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT VAGUE, WHAT IS THE THRESHOLD FOR COMPLAINTS? IS IT ONE PERSON 10 TIMES OR 10 PEOPLE ONE TIME? OR DOES IT MATTER? I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S A JUDGMENT.
IT'S REALLY GONNA BE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY COMING.
ARE THE BUILDING INSPECTOR COMING TO US AND SAYING THIS IS A PROBLEM? I MEAN, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS A PRACTICAL MATTER, IF ENOUGH COMPLAINTS COME IN, CANNINGS GONNA GO OUT THERE.
AND SEE IF THERE REALLY IS AN ISSUE.
I WAS, THAT'S, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T MAKE THAT DECISION.
IF IF THEY COME TO US WITH A RED FLAG, THEN AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA, MR. KING'S GONNA HAVE TO COME TO, WITH A POTENTIAL SOLUTION TO IT AS WELL.
BECAUSE I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT THAT WOULD BE.
SO, UH, THAT WOULD GIVEN THAT ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR CAN WE, CAN WE VOTE ON, ON THIS? OKAY.
CAN I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE DISCIPLINARY SUBDIVISION.
MICHAEL, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND IS JOHANN ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ARE YOU ALL SET? WE'LL EXECUTE THIS AND GET IT OFF TO YOU IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.
EVERYBODY ELSE, MUCH APPRECIATED.
UM, WE HAVE TWO, THERE'S ONLY ONE MORE PIECE OF BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO MORE PIECES OF BUSINESS TO DEAL WITH TONIGHT.
UM, WHEN MICHAEL COMES BACK, WE'LL DEAL WITH CROSSROADS FIRST.
GET THAT OUT OF THE WAY, WHICH IS THE TESLA CHARGING STATIONS CROSSROAD, CROSSROADS.
AND I SEE THAT THEY STRAIGHTEN THAT, THAT LITTLE ISSUE OUT.
AND THEN, UH, GARRETT NEEDS, NEEDS OUR TIME FOR A FEW MINUTES ABOUT, UM, OH, BODY.
UH, PBK IS 21 DASH 18 BODY, WHICH WE'VE ALL BEEN OUT TO.
IT'S FOR A FINAL SUBDIVISION AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
HAS ANYTHING CHANGED SINCE THE LAST TIME WE SAW THIS PROPOSAL? NO.
NO SUB CHANGES TO THE SUBDIVISION FLAT.
THERE WOULD BE THREE VOTES FOR CONSIDERATION.
THE FIRST VOTE IS, CAN I HAVE A, UH, VOTE TO WAIVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FINAL SUBDIVISION? SO MOVED.
DON'T LET MY SENIOR MOMENT GO OVER TO YOU.
SECOND VOTE IS, CAN I HAVE A, A VOTE TO APPROVE THE FINAL SUBDIVISION?
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SO MOVED.MICHAEL, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
AND FINALLY, CAN I HAVE A, UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT? SO MOVED.
WALTER, DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.
THAT ENGINEER DID A GREAT JOB AND, AND IN SEEKING OUT THE ISSUES OF THE DRAINAGE AND EVERYTHING OH YEAH.
JUST, JUST A QUICK NOTE THAT, UH, CONDITIONS THAT WERE INCLUDED WITHIN THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL HAVE CARRIED OVER INTO THE FINAL.
THERE WAS A CONDITION RELATED TO THE MONUMENT OR PLAQUE.
YOU KNOW, RECOGNIZING THE, THE MODEL, THE MODEL'S HOUSE.
SO THAT ALL CARRIED OVER INTO THIS DECISION.
WE'RE DOING THE WORK THE ENERGY COMMITTEE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING AND COME COMING TO US WITH A RECOMMENDATION, BUT SINCE THE END, WE'LL STILL KEEP LOOKING AT THESE AD HOC ALL, TIM, ALL ALL KIDDING ASIDE.
OKAY, WE'RE GONNA HEAR HERE IN CASE PB 20, UH, DID YOU TURN THE MIC OFF? OH, ONE
THE, WE'LL, WE'LL HEAR THE PROJECT AND WE'RE GONNA DECIDE ON THE MERITS OF THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT.
I CAN TELL YOU AS A, AS A CHAIR OF THE PLANNING BOARD, I AM CONCERNED, I WAS CONTINUALLY LOOKING AT THESE ON AN AD HOC BASIS WHERE THE TOWN DOES NOT HAVE A POLICY FOR THESE THINGS.
AND I WOULD AGAIN ASK, I KNOW YOU'VE GOT A LOT ON YOUR PLATE AND, AND DECIDED TO TAKE UP SOLAR PANELS FIRST, BUT THESE ARE THE APPLICATIONS THAT ARE COMING IN FIRST.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S, YOU DON'T MIND DOING A CONVERSATION
I WILL SAY THAT AS I MENTIONED THAT WHILE THE BOARD OR THE COMMITTEE IS FOCUSED FIRST ON SOLAR, WHICH I AM HELPING DRAFT AN ORDINANCE MM-HMM.
I I I'M JUST SAYING AS A, AS AS A CHAIR OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
THIS IS THE SECOND, THIRD TIME, THIRD ONE OF THESE NOW THAT WE'VE APPROVED IN THE SHOPPING CENTER PARKING LOT ARE, ARE CONSIDERING IN A SHOPPING CENTER PARKING LOT, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE THE BEST PLACE FOR THESE THINGS LONG TERM.
IT'S ONE THING WHEN YOU KNOW, 10% OF THE CARS ARE ELECTRIC.
IT'S A WHOLE OTHER THING WHEN A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE CARS ARE ELECTRIC FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
SO I I I JUST SAY THAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IT BEFORE WE GO TOO FAR, FAR WITH FAR WITH THIS.
AND YOU VOLUNTEERED YOUR TIME TO ASSIST THEM IN DRAFTING THE LOCAL LAW, RIGHT?
CHAIR, ABOUT TO OUR COMMITTEES ABOUT TO RELEASE OUR FIRST PIECE OF LEGISLATION NEXT WEEK.
CAN I RECITE THE VERIFICATION? YEAH.
UM, WANT YOU DESCRIBE THE PROJECT.
SO JUST VERY QUICKLY, UH, THERE WAS A REVISION MADE TO THE FINAL DR, UH, AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING'S MEETING.
AND IT WAS MODIFIED ON THE WEBSITE.
UM, WE DID IDENTIFY THAT THE DRAFT AGENDA INDICATED THAT THE REQUEST WITH RESPECT TO THE PARKING REDUCTION WAS FOR TWO SPACES WHERE IN FACT IT'S FOR 14 SPACES.
SO I'M JUST GONNA READ THE MODIFICATION QUICKLY.
IT'S ACTUALLY YOUR POINT FROM THE VETERINARIAN THING OF A DEDICATED SPACE.
IF THAT'S WHY THE DESCRIPTION NOW READS AND IS POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AS SUCH A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS A PLANNING BOARD SHARED PARKING REDUCTION REQUEST PURSUANT TO SECTION 2 85 DASH 38 D FIVE OF THE ZONING ORDINANCE ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONVERSION OF 14 EXISTING ONSITE PARKING SPACES INTO 12 TESLA CHARGING STATION SPACES.
DUE TO THE SUBSTANDARD WIDTHS OF THE EXISTING PARKING SPACES PROPOSED TO BE MODIFIED TO TESLA, TO TESLA CHARGING STATION SPACES, TWO EXISTING PARKING SPACES WOULD BE ELIMINATED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT.
SO 14 TO 12, TWO ARE BEING ELIMINATED.
CAN I ASK A QUE A LEGAL QUESTION? SO IT'S A REDUCTION OF TWO? YEAH.
SO WHY IT'S MORE THAT'S THE DESCRIPTION AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK IT'LL HELP IF HE CAN GO THROUGH THE REST OF IT.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE, HE MIGHT ANSWER ALL YOUR QUESTIONS.
NO ADDITIONAL COMMERCIAL SQUARE FOOTAGE BY WAY OF BUILDING MODIFICATIONS OR ADDITIONS IS PROPOSED IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT.
IN ORDER TO FACILITATE THE PROPOSED WORK, THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING A SHARED PARKING REDUCTION OF 14 SPACES FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FROM 1,563 SPACES PREVIOUSLY APPROVED.
WE'VE CHANGED SINCE, SINCE, SINCE HE SENT OUT THE PACKET TO 1549 PROPOSED WHILE 'CAUSE
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THESE ARE 12 DEDICATED SPACES TO TESLA WHILE ONLY BECAUSE THEY'RE DEDICATED.WHILE I CAN'T USE IT IN MY CHEVY PICKUP.
YEAH, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TWO WHILE, SO HEAR ME OUT.
WHILE ONLY TWO PHYSICAL SPACES WILL BE ELIMINATED DUE TO RES STRIPING, THE 12 REMAINING TESLA CHARGING STATION SPACES HAVE A LIMITED USE REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO SEEK A SHARED PARKING REDUCTION FOR ALL 14 SPACES.
THE PROJECT REQUIRES MINOR DISTURBANCE TO GRASSED AREAS BEHIND THE TESLA PARKING STALLS AND ORDER TO INSTALL THREE TESLA SUPERCHARGER CABINETS.
ONE 1600, A FOUR 80 VOLT SWITCH GEAR AND ONE UTILITY TRANSFORMER.
I JUST HAVE ONE LEGAL QUESTION.
IF THOSE ARE SUBSTANDARD SPACES, DO WE JUST GRANDFATHER, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE.
IS THE REST OF CROSSROADS, ARE THEY ALL SUBSTANDARD SPACES OF CROSSROADS? AND IF THEY ARE, DO WE JUST GRANDFATHER IT OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT SEPARATELY FROM THIS? SO WE, WE CAN CHECK WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR.
MY UNDERSTANDING WOULD BE THAT ANY PRIOR SITE PLAN, AS LONG AS THEY WERE STRIPED OUT IN A, IN A, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THAT APPROVED PLAN AT THE, IT WOULD BE LEGAL AT THE TIME.
WE DON'T KNOW WHY THESE ARE CALLED SUBSTANDARD.
DO WE? WELL, BECAUSE OF THE TIMING WHEN THEY WERE THE CURRENT DIMENSION REQUIREMENTS FOR AS FAR AS IT'S BEEN WIDENED OVER TIME, WHAT'S REQUIRED AND WHAT'S THE EXISTING 2010, ISN'T IT 10 BY 20? YEAH.
AND WHAT, WHAT ARE THESE, UH, OFF HAND? I COULD, WE COULD ASK THE APPLICANT.
AND SO WHEN NEW PROJECTS COME IN, WE REQUIRE THEM TO, I THINK WE HAD THIS, DIDN'T WE HAVE THIS ISSUE AT MIDWAY? RETRIP THEM APPROPRIATELY? I THINK WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE.
AND I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
DID WE GET A LETTER FROM THE BUILDING INSPECTOR SAYING THAT THE SHARED PARKING IS OKAY? WE DID.
I CAN CIRCULATE IT AND I'M HAPPY TO EMAIL IT.
OH, I BELIEVE IT DATED MARCH 22ND, 2023 WHERE THE APPLICANT I'D LIKE TO DO.
I THINK THE REASON WHY WE'VE DECIDED THAT THEY REQUIRE THE 14 SPACES IS A PRIOR DECISION.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE STAYING IN LINE CONSISTENT WITH PRIOR PRECEDENT.
THAT'S WHAT WITH THE SHERIDAN.
REMEMBER THE SHEAN ONE WE DID YEARS AGO.
SHERIDAN HOTEL WAS THE FIRST TESLA ONE.
WHEN WAS THAT? THAT WAS IN 2016.
SEVEN YEARS AGO, HUH? THE FIRST ONE.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WE DID WAS THE VOLKSWAGEN WHEN THE SHIELD.
OH, I DO HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
WHAT HAPPENS IF I PARK MY TRUCK IN THE TESLA SPACE? I GET NASTY.
UH, GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL NOT COME.
THE A SOMETHING IN YOUR CAR, THE APPLICANT OR THE, THE COULD BOOT YOU OR THE MANAGEMENT COMPANY WE WILL ASK THE APPLICANT TO DEPENDS ON THE SIGN.
WE'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO THE TEAM AND WE HAVE ENABLED THE SHARE SCREEN FUNCTION.
YOU HAVE TO WRITE ON A BLACKBOARD A HUNDRED TIMES.
I WOULD NOT POCKET THE TESLA'S FACING CAMERA AFTER WRITING SKATEBOARD IN.
UH, DAVE ETTE FROM, UH, BLUE ENGINEERS ON THE PROFESSIONAL RECORD OR PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, BENNY AND ROME FROM TESLA.
UM, FOR ANY REALLY TESLA RELATED QUESTIONS, UH, KIND OF ON THE LEASING OR OPERATIONS SIDE, I CAN ANSWER A LOT OF QUESTIONS TO THE SITE PLAN AND, AND GENERAL SITE OPERATIONS.
I'VE, I'VE DONE ENOUGH THESE HEARINGS TO, UH, TO KIND OF, YOU KNOW, KNOW, KNOW, UH, THE INS AND OUT OF THESE PROJECTS.
BUT I CAN SHARE MY SCREEN HERE.
LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU GUYS CAN SEE IT.
WHAT'S IN THAT? IT'S CLEAR LIQUID.
NO, IT LOOKS WORSE THAN IT LOOK LIKE VODKA.
DOES, DOESN'T IT? YOU CAN SEE IT.
IT'S GRAIN ALCOHOL ACTUALLY, BECAUSE BAY IS NOT BLOODY BY ENOUGH.
IT'S BLOOD JUICE AND GRAIN ALCOHOL.
SO THE, UH, THE SITE ITSELF IS AT, UH, 4 2 3 PERRY TOWN ROAD IN WAKE PLAINS.
DISCUSSED EXISTING SHOPPING CENTER.
UM, I, I BELIEVE THE SITE THAT YOU GUYS ARE REFERRING TO, THE OTHER SITE THAT YOU HAVE WORKED ON FOR TESLA ARE, YOU KNOW, REVIEWED FOR TESLA CLOSER, A BIT CLOSER TO THE RIVER.
WE'RE A BIT FURTHER EAST HERE.
UM, SO JUST TO KIND OF GET INTO IT, I WILL SHOW, I HAVE MY GOOGLE AERIAL, SO IF YOU WANT WE CAN WALK THROUGH THE STREET VIEW.
YOU GUYS KNOW, WE CAN, I REALLY THINK IF YOU GO TO THE SITE PLAN, TO THE SITE PLAN, IT'D BE EASIEST THING I OKAY.
I'LL GO TO THE AERIAL SITE PLAN.
THAT'S, THAT INCLUDES, THAT'S GOOD.
SO TERRYTOWN RUNS, UH, TO THE NORTH HERE.
THIS IS THE, UM, TO THE PARKING LOT THAT WOULD BE CLOSEST TO
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OUR PROPOSED I V CHARGING STATION.THE REASON WE SHOW THIS, THIS AREA IS JUST TO KIND OF GIVE A BETTER IDEA THAT THE SURVEY, THE SURVEY WE HAD COMPLETED, UM, REALLY JUST GETS THE AREA IN ENTRANCE.
WE WANTED TO SHOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE PULLING UTILITY POWER FROM AND JUST GIVE A GOOD IDEA OF THE SITE ITSELF JUST TO ORIENT EVERY, JUST TO ORIENT EVERYBODY.
THOSE SET OF BUILDINGS IS WHERE THE P G A STORE IS.
WHERE MOD'S USED TO BE THE SET OF BUILDINGS ON THE LEFT.
BE A BUILDING ALL THE WAY, ALL THE WAY TO THE, AS YOU'RE FACING THE SHOPPING CENTER TO THE, ALL THE WAY TO THE WEST.
THE, TO THE WEST TO THE RIGHT.
UM, YEAH, PLEASE INTER, YOU KNOW, INTERJECT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WHILE I'M GOING THROUGH THIS.
UM, SO THE, SO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY IS WHERE WE'LL BE GRABBING, UM, UTILITY POWER FROM.
UM, THERE'S AN EXISTING PRIMARY LINE DOWN THERE, WHICH THEY'VE IDENTIFIED AS THE BEST SOLUTION TO, TO GET POWER FOR US.
UM, AND THEY WOULD BRING THE POWER TO THE NORTH TO OUR PROPOSED SITES.
SO THE PLAN HERE IS TO ACTUALLY DIRECTIONAL BORE, UM, THE CONDUITS ACROSS JUST TO AVOID SHUTTING DOWN, YOU KNOW, PARKING, SHUTTING DOWN SITES, RUNNING A GIANT, YOU KNOW, TRENCH THROUGH, THROUGH THE, THE PARKING LOT.
WHO'S IDENTIFIED SUBSURFACE UTILITIES? UM, WE'VE HAD DEEP OUR, UH, GROUND PENETRATED RADAR SYSTEM OUT THERE TO MAKE SURE, UM, AND PRIOR TO ANY CONSTRUCTION, THEY WOULD PHYSICALLY LOCATE THEM USING A POTHOLE, MEANING JUST A SMALL HOLE TO GET TO, TO THE DEPTH TO CONFIRM THAT SO THEY CAN MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S NO, NO ISSUES WITH ANY OF THE STORM SEWERS OR CONDUIT LIGHTING CONDUIT, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO TO THAT POINT WE WOULD TAKE OUR PRIMARY TO THE NORTH GEAR, UM, TO OUR SITE GEAR.
AND I CAN GO BACK TO OUR SITE LINE, GIVE A LITTLE BIT BETTER IDEA HERE.
SO THIS IS A CONDUIT COMING IN.
THIS IS THE TRANSFORMER AND I WILL ZOOM IN.
UM, THIS BEING THE ENTRANCE? YEAH.
UH, SO FROM THAT POWER WOULD, WE WOULD GO TO A UTILITY TRANSFORMER LOCATED IN THE GRASS AREA HERE.
UM, AND I HAVE DETAILED PLANS TO GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, COLOR TO THIS.
UM, FROM THERE WE WOULD GO TO OUR DISTRIBUTION AND POWER EQUIPMENT.
UM, JUST A COUPLE POINTS HERE.
THERE IS A, UH, WATERCOURSE ONE, A WATERPROOF BUFFER FROM THIS.
THERE'S A STORM CULVER, UM, CULVERT AREA HERE THAT, UH, IS OPEN HERE AND IS ACTUALLY RUNNING ON THE UNDERGROUND RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR STALLS HERE.
UM, SO WE ARE OUTSIDE OF THAT WATER FORCE BUFFER.
UM, WE MODIFIED OUR DESIGN TO MAKE SURE WE WOULD STAY OUT OF THAT.
UH, JUST ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS NOW? I, I CAN TOUCH ON THE PARKING SPACE.
I FEEL LIKE WE, WE KIND OF TOUCHED ON THOSE ALREADY, BUT, UM, ANY QUESTIONS JUST IN GENERAL? THE, THE, YOU SAID THE POWER IS THAT, THAT BIG BOX AND THEN I GUESS EACH, IN, EACH INDIVIDUAL STATION HAS A CONDUIT CORRECT.
EACH INDIVIDUAL PARKING SPACE? YEP.
SO I GUESS, UH, LET ME JUST SHOW YOU QUICKLY SOME OF THE SUBSTANDARD, UM, STALLS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP.
SO THIS IS THE EXISTING, THIS IS FROM EXISTING SURVEY.
THESE ARE THE STALLS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO GO WITH.
AND YOU CAN SEE HERE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THE QUOTE UNQUOTE REGULAR SIZED CELLS ARE SUBSTANDARD TO, TO CURRENT CURRENT CODE.
YOU CAN SEE A COUPLE OF 'EM WERE JUST TINY, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY SHOULDN'T, YOU KNOW, HAVE REALLY MUCH BEEN CONSIDERED CELLS.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE REASON FOR THAT.
THE REDUCTION THERE, UM, INTO, BUT TO ANSWER, GET INTO YOUR QUESTION, UM, POWER FROM THIS TRANSFORM THE TYPICAL UTILITY TRANSFORMER, GREEN TRANSFORMER YOU WOULD SEE AT ANY OTHER SITE FROM THERE, THIS WOULD RUN TO OUR AC DISTRIBUTION, UH, SWITCH GEAR, WHICH, UM, BASICALLY TAKES, TAKES THE UTILITY POWER, THERE'S A METER, UM, THIS IS WHERE ALL THAT HAPPENS.
AND THEN IT SENDS IT TO THESE TESLA SUPERCHARGING CABINETS.
THESE ARE THE DC RECTIFIER BASICALLY TURNING AC POWER TO DC POWER.
FROM THERE, UH, ONE INDIVIDUAL CON IS SENT OUT TO EACH POST UNDER THE GROUND, BUT UH, OUT TO EACH POST, LIKE YOU SAID, THERE'S ONE CON FOR EACH POST.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE ORIENTATION, SPEAKING OF THE MIC PLEASE, I WANNA MAKE SURE ORIENT THE ORIENTATION OF THE BUILDING AND THE, UM, STALLS IS CORRECT.
THIS APPEARS TO BE THE BACK SECTION OF THE MALL, RIGHT? NO, IT'S ACTUALLY THE FRONT SECTION.
IF YOU COME IN OFF OF ONE 19 AT THE WESTERN MOST ENTRY POINT ADJACENT TO THAT BRICK CONED SUBSTATION BUILDING.
RIGHT? RIGHT ACROSS FROM DUNKIN DONUTS.
WHEN YOU HOOK IN THAT ENTRY POINT, YOU CAN GO STRAIGHT DOWN KIND OF LIKE THE BOULEVARD ENTRANCE OR THERE'S A SLIP INTO THE RIGHT TO GO TOWARDS THE P G A STORE FORMALLY MOD'S.
IT'S OFF TO THAT, RIGHT? IT'S TO THE RIGHT IT TO THE RIGHT OF THE G STORE, CORRECT.
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OR THE RIGHT OF THAT BUILDING.IT'S RIGHT IN THE FRONT, WHICH IS KIND OF NICE AND STAYS OUT OF THE TRAFFIC FLOW OF THE, OF THE, OF THE SHOPPING CENTER.
NOBODY, THAT'S WHAT I LIKE ABOUT IT.
I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY NORMALLY GO THAT WAY TO PARK.
NO, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT IT IF PEOPLE KNOW BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE REGULAR MM-HMM.
I WAS LOOKING AT THE, UH, SHOPPING CENTER'S SITE ADDRESS WITH THE, UH, BLUE PINS ON IT.
SO THAT'D HAVE ME GET A LITTLE CONFUSED.
I I HAVE A, A QUESTION FOR I THINK PROBABLY THE TESLA FOLKS, ALTHOUGH DAVID, IF YOU CAN ANSWER IT, IT'S OKAY TOO.
UM, I'VE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE, UH, TESLA CHARGING SYSTEM IS BEING ADOPTED NOW BY SOME OF THE MAJOR CAR MANUFACTURERS.
SO IN THE LAST JUST MONTH, MONTH AND A HALF, UM, FORD, GM, I BELIEVE VOLVO, UM, AND MERCEDES, A GOOD, A GOOD AMOUNT RAYON HAVE, HAVE ADOPTED THE, UM, N A C S, THE NORTH AMERICAN CHARGING STANDARD PLUG, WHICH IS PRETTY OBVIOUSLY HAS THE TESTED PLUG.
UM, SO THEY WILL, AND I DON'T KNOW, AND NO, I ASSUME THIS SITE WILL BE OPEN, BUT I, I DON'T WANT TO TO SAY THAT I, I ASSUME IT WILL BE OPEN TO THE, TO ALL THE CHARTERS, UM, WHEN THEY'RE ABLE TO YES, IT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
UM, AND I DO WANNA ADD NISSAN AS OF TODAY AS WELL.
UM, YEAH, SO I'LL JUST JUMP BACK SITE QUICK.
UH, LIKE I SAID, KIND OF CUT THROUGH POWER, BUT THE, THE STALLS THEMSELVES, UM, WE'VE SPACED 'EM OUT TO AVOID HAVING TO TAKE A, YOU KNOW, ADDITIONAL STALL.
WE FIT THEM OUT TO THE AT T BY NINE FOUR, UM, AND ONE ACCESSIBLE STALL, WHICH IS 11 BY FIVE FEET TO MAKE SURE THERE'S ACCESSIBILITY TO ONE OF THESE, UH, CHARGING POSTS.
UM, THE, THE POST THEMSELVES WILL BE INSTALLED BEHIND THE CURB OTHER THAN THE ACCESSIBLE POSTS WILL BE INSTALLED BEHIND THE CURB AND EACH WILL HAVE A SINGLE FOARD FOR PROTECTION.
UM, WE ARE ADDING A LIGHT POST OUT HERE.
UH, IT IS JUST KIND OF OUT, LIKE I SAID, KIND OF TOWARDS THE BACK SIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, THEY DEEMED IT JUST NOT WELL LIT.
UM, SO JUST FOR SAFETY PURPOSES, YOU KNOW, THESE, THESE ARE OPEN AT NIGHT, SO JUST MAKING SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY IS ADEQUATE LIGHTING THERE.
UM, ONE THING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP WAS SIGNAGE.
THERE'S NO SIGNAGE, UM, FOR THIS STATION HELP, I BELIEVE WHEN WE FIRST, UM, STARTED THIS PROCESS ABOUT A YEAR AGO, I BELIEVE THEY WERE SIGNAGE, THEY REMOVED THE SIGNAGE.
SO WHILE THEY ARE QUOTE UNQUOTE DEDICATED, THE, THERE'S NO SIGNS THAT SAY, THEY DIDN'T SAY, DON'T PARK HERE.
SO IF YOU WERE TO PULL UP IN YOUR, YOU KNOW, TRUCK, THEN THERE WOULD BE REALLY NO RAMIFICATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO ISSUES.
OF COURSE, THEY THE FURTHEST PARKING SPACES FROM THE SHOPPING CENTER ANYWAY.
SO WHY YOU'D PULL UP THERE IN YOUR TRUCK.
AND THAT'S, AND, AND, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF TESLA'S GENERAL, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T WANT TO TAKE THOSE PRIME PARKING SPACES.
THEY, THEY LIKE TO PUT 'EM OUT, OUT TOWARDS THE, THE, SO IF THEY WANT POSSIBLE, CAN YOU JUST SHOW THE LANDSCAPING FOR A SECOND PLEASE? UM, YEAH, SO THERE'S, UH, LET'S SEE.
I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE, UH, OFFICIAL PLAN.
WE'RE NOT MODIFYING MUCH TO THE LANDSCAPING, BUT IF I CAN JUST, I'LL SHOW THE DETAIL PLAN, PROBABLY THE BEST.
THERE'S SOME TREES IN THE AREA AND THEN, UM, THERE'S SOME LARGER TREES IN THE AREA, BUT REALLY LANDSCAPING AS MUCH, THERE'S STONE, KIND OF A STONE BORDER ALONG THIS HERB, BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.
IT, IT IS NOT MUCH THAT COULD SHOW A PHOTO OR A STREET VIEW PLAN IF, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SEE JUST TO GET IDEA BETTER.
DO YOU HAVE THAT AVAILABLE? YEAH, I'VE GOT THE STREET VIEW.
I THINK IT ACTUALLY PULLS INTO THE SITE SO THAT YOU CAN KIND OF GET A SENSE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.
YEAH, I THINK I'LL, I'LL JUST START FROM THE STREET SO YOU GUYS CAN GET YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A FAIR AMOUNT OF VEGETATION PRETTY WELL HIDDEN BY THE TREES.
SO THERE'S, AND THIS CAN BE A LITTLE BIT, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, AS YOU SAID, THERE'S THIS FULFILLING THE FRONTAGE, UM, SURROUNDED BY A FENCE WITH YEAH, WITH, WITH THE GREEN, YOU KNOW, GREEN SLOT.
SO THAT RUNS PRETTY MUCH ALL THE WAY AROUND IT.
AND YOU'LL SEE IT WHEN WE GET TO OUR SITE, BUT THE, THERE'S SOME, SOME SHRUBBERY HERE.
UM, YOU SIGNAGE AND SOME PRETTY MATURE TREE, SO SHE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WEARING TAG AND THOSE, UM, THERE IS SOME MINOR GRASSES HERE.
UM, SO WE WOULD HAVE, UH, MINORITIES HERE, SOME MERCEDES.
ONE THING, UH, GO AHEAD WALTER, GO AHEAD.
UH, I'D LIKE TO GET BACK TO THE
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WHOLE ISSUE OF HOW MANY PARKING SPACES YOU NEED VERSUS, UH, IS THE WHOLE, IS JUST THESE, UH, PARKING SPACES SUBSTANDARD OR IS THIS PRETTY MUCH THE LAYOUT OF THE WHOLE PARKING LOT? UH, WE DON'T KNOW.WE WILL DISCUSS WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND WE CAN REPORT BACK.
WE HAD THE SAME ISSUE I KNOW, AT MIDWAY.
UH, I MEAN, BASICALLY THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH PARKING SPACES.
IF YOU, THAT PLACE IS, IS IS VERY, UH, UNDER PARK.
WE GOT MORE THAN SUFFICIENT PARKING SPACES.
SO THAT'S NOT THE, UH, MY ISSUE IS THE QUESTION.
WE JUST NEED TO HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THAT.
I SUSPECT IF YOU LOOKED AT MOST OF THE SHOPPING CENTERS, WE IT COULD BE, IT, IT'S POSSIBLE.
IT'S AN ISSUE AT A LOT OF THESE OLDER SHOPPING CENTERS POSSIBLE.
WHICH PREDATED THE CURRENT REGS.
SO I MEAN, SEEING HOW, UM, UH, THE WHOLE PARKING LOT IS UNDER PAR, MAYBE WE SHOULD GO FOR, UH, 15 SPACES AND MAKE THEM ALL A LITTLE BIT WIDER.
THAT'S WHY THEY LOST THE OTHER SPACE.
OH, I THOUGHT THEY WERE, THESE THAT THEY'RE WORKING ON, THESE ARE, THEY'RE BRINGING THEM UP TO THEY'RE COMPLIANCE.
NOW WILL THERE BE ANY ORDERS FOR EQUIPMENT? ONCE FOR THE, WILL THERE BE ANY NET UH, UH, DECREASE OR INCREASE IN, IN THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE? WE'LL ASK THE APPLICANT A LITTLE BIT.
MINOR FOR THE, SO THE, THIS TRANSFORMER WILL BE ON A CONCRETE PAD, UM, AND THE EQUIPMENT WILL BE ON A CONCRETE PAD.
AND THEN EACH ONE OF THESE IS ON A SMALL CONCRETE FOUNDATION.
DO YOU KNOW CUMULATIVELY IF THAT WOULD BE LESS THAN 500 SQUARE FEET OF ADDITIONAL IMPERVIOUS, IT WOULD BE VERY CLOSE TO 500 FEET.
LEMME SEE IF WE ACTUALLY INCLUDED THAT.
ARE THEY OVER IN IMPERVIOUS OR NO, THEY'RE NOT OVER.
THEY'RE NOT RECORDING THE BUILDING INSPECTOR.
BUT, BUT, BUT CONSIDERING WHAT WE HAVE JUST SEEN IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO IN THE AMOUNT OF FLOODING THROUGHOUT THE AREA AND THE DEFINITE CHANGE IN WEATHER PATTERN, UH, WE SHOULD MAKE EVERY ATTEMPT WITHIN REASON, UH, TO NOT TO INCREASE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE, TO LOOK AT ALL SORTS OF, WHAT ARE THE OTHER OPTIONS? NOT TO INCREASE IT AT ALL.
IN THIS CASE, YOU CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE YOU'D EITHER HAVE TO TAKE MORE PARKING SPACES AND EVEN THAT DOESN'T WORK.
'CAUSE THE CONFIGURATION YOU HAVE TO TAKE MORE PARKING SPACES OR WHAT ABOUT IMPERVIOUS SURFACES? SO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
IT'S NOT THAT IT'S, HOLD ON, LET ME, LET ME EXPLAIN.
THE PARKING SPACES, THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE DOESN'T CHANGE.
THE ONLY THING THAT CHANGES IS THERE'S A, THEY NEED A PLACE IN, IF YOU IMAGINE THE ONE THAT WE JUST, THAT WE DID IN OUR PLANES.
THEY NEED A PLACE TO PUT THE EQUIPMENT.
AND IT'S ON A LITTLE GRASSY AREA, WHICH IS 280 SQUARE FEET.
SO I'M NOT SURE THEY'RE NOT TAKING ANY TREES.
OH, THAT'S WHAT MY POINT THERE IS ONLY 280 SQUARE FEET.
IT'S EQUIPMENT, SO YOU CAN'T DO IT.
I I JUST WANTED TO KNOW, WAS THERE SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN IMPERVIOUS SURFACE? NO, NO.
IT'S, IT'S LESS THAN THE THRESHOLD TO YEAH.
PARTICULARLY GIVEN THE, THE, YOU'VE GOT THE WATER FORCE, RIGHT, RIGHT BACK.
ANYTHING ELSE, WALTER? NO, THAT, THAT WAS FINE.
I DO HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION, DAVID.
I, WELL, YOU MAY HAVE KILLED THE IDEA OF A SIGN, BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO, I KNOW TESLA'S, YOU CAN FIGURE ON YOUR G P S, THEY'LL TAKE YOU TO YOUR CHARGING STATION.
THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE TRUE ON THE OTHER BRANDS.
YOU DON'T CONTROL THE G P S ON ALL THOSE BRANDS.
I'M WONDERING IF A, JUST A SMALL SIGN WHERE, WHERE THAT TURNOUT IS WOULDN'T BE, WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA.
DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A BIG SIGN.
YOU KNOW, YOU MEAN LIKE AT, AT THE, AT THE ENTRANCE HERE? YEAH.
WILL YOU DO THE CUT? WILL YOU DO THAT LITTLE TURNOUT OUT OFF THE MAIN ROAD? RIGHT.
UM, BUT THE TESLA FOLKS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, THE TESLA ARE BRINGING THERE, BUT NOW THAT THE NETWORK IS OPEN OPENING, UM, I CAN, I CAN ASK THE QUESTION AND, AND, AND ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.
OR I DON'T KNOW IF, IF TWO REASONS.
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ONE REASON IS IT, IT'S CONVENIENT, IT MAKES IT MORE CONVENIENT FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T TESLA OWNERS OKAY.BUT SECOND REASON, EVEN FOR TESLA OWNERS, THEY, THEY COULD EASILY, IT, IT, EVEN PEOPLE WITH GPSS SOMETIMES SCREW UP TO HAVE THAT REINFORCEMENT THAT THAT'S THE WAY TO IT AND DON'T HAVE THEM GOING, YOU KNOW, NAVIGATING THROUGH THE PARKING LOT AND ENDED UP IN THE WRONG PART OF THE PARKING LOT, I THINK WOULD MAKE SOME SENSE.
I DON'T, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT A BIG HUGE YEAH.
I'M TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING SMALL THAT IS JUST DIRECTS THEM TO TAKE THAT LITTLE, THAT LITTLE TURNIN.
'CAUSE IT, IT'S NOT A NATURAL PLACE TO DO A TURNIN.
AND I THINK IT'S NOT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW.
IS IT VISIBLE FROM TARRYTOWN ROAD? I KNOW FROM TARRYTOWN ROAD, I'M TALKING ABOUT AFTER.
NO, YOU, I'M SAYING YOU CAN'T SEE THE CHARGING STATION.
YOU SO SIGN MY, YOU KNOW, SIGN GREEN, SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO AND REPORT BACK TO US.
TAKE THAT ONE IS WHEN TESLA WAS THE ONLY, UH, UH, CHARGING STATION IN TOWN.
IT IS FINE TO LABEL EVERYTHING TESLA, BUT AS YOU'RE GOING TO GENERIC STATIONS, I THINK TESLA, I MEAN IT'S, I KNOW THAT DECISION.
NO, NO, THIS IS, THIS IS NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION HERE.
BUT, BUT TESLA NEED TO RECOGNIZE IT'S A TWO-EDGED SWORD.
AS YOU GET MORE AND MORE OF THE MAJORS USING THE TESLA CHARGER, THEN THEY HAVE TO COME UP WITH A BETTER SORT OF GENERIC SIGNAGE OR, OR, OR, OR FOR THAT.
IS THIS, IS THIS, DO YOU CHARGE FOR THE CHARGING FOR TESLA? FOR TESLA CAR? UH, YES.
SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, UM, CHARGED THROUGH EITHER THE APP OR THE VEHICLE.
SO IF A VEHICLE PULLS IN, PLUGS IN THE CHARGER, BASICALLY RECOMMENDS THE VEHICLE, THE VEHICLE RECOMMENDS THE CHARGER CHARGES, AND THEN AT THE END OF THAT, OKAY, WHAT, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN WOULD GET A UPDATE.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH IF IT'S A NISSAN NOW OR A MERCEDES? SO, AS FAR AS I KNOW, UM, NO BANK, LET ME KNOW IF I'M TALKING, UM, INCORRECTLY HERE.
BUT THERE IS AN APP THAT, THE TESLA APP, I BELIEVE NEW DRIVERS, NEW DRIVERS, UM, DOWNLOAD THAT APP ON THEIR PHONE.
AND WHEN THEY COME IN, THEY WOULD BASICALLY HAVE TO SAY, I'M AT STALL.
I'M INSTALL THREE B, I'M PLUGGED IN APP, RECOGNIZES THAT THE CAR IS PLUGGED IN.
THE SUPERCHARGER DOES THE SAME.
AND THEN SAME IDEA, THEY WOULD GET CHARGED AFTER, AFTER THE, THE CAR.
BUT TWO, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, AND I'M SORRY IF I MISSED IT.
WHAT ARE THE OPERATING HOURS? IS IT, WILL IT BE 24 4? NO, IT WON'T BE CORRECT.
SO WE NEED TO, WE, WE CAN MAKE THIS DECISION.
YOU COULD DIRECT STAFF TO PREPARE SOMETHING FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
HOW DO EVERYBODY FEEL? ARE WE READY TO DO THAT? YEAH.
SO OUR STAFF WILL PREPARE A, UH, APPROVAL LETTER FOR OUR NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS AUGUST 16TH.
AND WE'LL, AND WE'LL VOTE ON IT THEN.
BUT THE FACT WE'RE APPROVING IT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE'RE ASKING HIM TO PREPARE IT MEANS THAT, UH, YOU SHOULD GET APPROVAL AT THE NEXT MEETING ON AUGUST 16TH.
AND IS THAT, JUST SO I'M AWARE, IS THAT A, A KIND OF A WORK SESSION MEETING LIKE THIS? OR IS THAT A PUBLIC MEETING? NO PUBLIC HEARING NECESSARY.
SIMILAR TO TONIGHT, YOU'LL BE DONE.
NO, YOU DON'T NEED TO PRESENT ANYTHING ELSE.
ALL WE HAVE TO DO, I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IT CAN BE PRESENT FOR, FOR IT.
ALL WE DO IS READ, WE READ THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATION AND, AND, UH, VOTE ON IT.
AND, AND AARON WILL BE SHOWING IT TO YOU GUYS BEFORE THAT MEETING TOO, SO THAT YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT'S IN THERE.
AND I KNOW THE ONLY KIND OF QUESTION CHANGE MODIFICATION WAS, UH, POTENTIAL FOR ADDING THE WAY FINDING SIGNAGE.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO UPDATE ON DRUM RESUBMIT, OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED BETWEEN NOW AND THAT MEETING? IT COULD JUST BE AN ADDITION.
AN ADDITION TO IT THAT YOU'VE AGREED TO DO THAT EVEN, I GUESS A, A LETTER AND, AND SHOW WHERE IT IS, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'D BE ADDING IN THE SIGN.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO RESOLVE THAT, THAT ISSUE THOUGH, BEFORE THE 16TH SO WE CAN OKAY.
I'LL BRING THAT UP WITH, UM, WITH FOLKS.
SO NIGHT YOU DID A NICE JOB OF, OF PLACING IT, I THINK HERE.
THAT'S ABOUT THE BEST SPOT IN THE HOPE PLACE.
SEE, THE PROB THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH SOME OF THEM NOW, AND THE REASON I YEAH, REALLY GUYS, I'M, I'M REALLY HAPPY WITH THE WAY YOU DID THAT.
THE PROBLEM I HAVE WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DOING THIS NOW, LIKE IF YOU GO TO WEGMANS, THEY'RE IN THE FRONT.
OKAY? THEY'RE TYING UP, THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO THE HANDICAP
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SPACES.SO YOU HAVE HANDICAPPED SPACES AND TESLAS.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT'S RIGHT.
'CAUSE I DO THINK THAT CAN SCREW UP THE, THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IN PLACE.
AND IF IT WAS, IF A PERSON IS NOT GOING TO SHOP, IF THEY'RE JUST GOING TO CHARGE, IT SHOULD BE WHEN THEY FIRST GET TO THE PARKING LOT.
I APPRECIATE WE'LL SEE YOU ON THE 16TH.
COMMISSIONER, ARE YOU THERE? YES.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING OVER MY SHOULDER? HE'S LOOKING AT MY SHOULDER.
GARRETT, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE US BRIEFLY THROUGH THE PURPOSE OF THE LETTER AND, AND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD TO DO TONIGHT.
UH, GOOD EVENING CHAIRPERSON SCHWARTZ, AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS TO REALLY APPRECIATE YOU ALLOWING ME TO SLIDE IN TONIGHT, UM, AFTER NOT BEING ON THE AGENDA.
UM, BUT I DO HAVE AN IMPORTANT MATTER AND I'M LOOKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT PLANNING BOARD'S SUPPORT FOR A, UH, VERY EXCITING GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE TOWN GREENBURG.
UM, IF THE PLAN, I BELIEVE EACH PLANNING BOARD MEMBER, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, MS. DAVIS WAS ON THE BOARD IN BACK IN 2019, UH, WHEN THE FOUR CORNERS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WAS ADOPTED BY THE TOWN BOARD.
AND, UM, APPARENTLY SAY THE PLANNING BOARD WAS A LARGE, PLAYED A LARGE ROLE IN THAT PROCESS.
AND, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD, IF YOU RECALL, UM, GAVE A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION WITH REGARDS TO THE FOUR CORNERS REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
I'VE SHARED SCREEN WITH THE COVER OF IT.
UM, BUT IN SHORT, THIS PLAN IS A SUPPLEMENT TO THE TOWN'S 2016 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT'S REALLY A STRATEGIC LAND USE PLAN, UH, FOR THE FOUR CORNERS, UH, INTERSECTION AND, AND, AND IN, IN VERY IMMEDIATE AREA, UM, WHEREBY, UM, IT'S ENVISIONED THAT, UM, THERE COULD BE A HIGHER AND BETTER USE IN THE FUTURE AT, AT THE CORNERS.
AND, UM, THE IDEA IS THAT THERE WOULD BE KIND OF A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT, UH, MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S AT AN APPROPRIATE SCALE FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG THAT, UH, WORKS IN PROPER TRANSPORTATION AND STORMWATER MITIGATIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT DOES HAVE A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL AND NON-RESIDENTIAL AND ATTRACTIVE BUILDINGS, UM, THAT REALLY KIND OF, UM, HIGHLIGHTS THIS, THIS KEY INTERSECTION IN THE TOWN.
UM, SO JUST, JUST TO GO FORWARD FROM THE ADOPTION OF THE THIS PLAN IN 2019, UH, THE TOWN HAS BEEN, UH, RATHER PROACTIVE, UH, TRAFFIC AND, UH, PLANNING.
A PLANNING CONSULTANT WAS HIRED TO CONDUCT, UH, TECHNICAL TRAFFIC ANALYSIS AND STORMWATER ANALYSIS.
UM, SO WE DO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF SOME KNOWN MITIGATIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE NECESSARY, UM, FOR THE QUARTER, AND THAT, UM, WILL LIKELY, UM, ENABLE, UH, GOOD MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT AT THE CORNERS.
UM, BUT REALLY THE NEXT PROCEDURAL STEP IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS IS RIGHT NOW, AS YOU RECALL, THE CA DISTRICT, UH, ABSOLUTELY, UH, WOULD NOT ALLOW, UH, THE TYPE OF REDEVELOPMENT THAT'S ENVISIONED AS PART OF THIS PLAN.
UH, THE CA DISTRICT HAS A TWO ACRE MINIMUM FOR, FOR, UH, RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.
UM, THERE'S A 50 FOOT SETBACK, WHICH IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE CA DISTRICT, BUT NOT FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT, WHICH REALLY KIND OF IS, IS ENVISIONED AS A FORM-BASED KIND OF TO THE CURB TYPE DEVELOPMENT IN SOME INSTANCES.
SO WHERE THE GRANT OPPORTUNITY ARISES IS, UH, THROUGH THE NEW YORK STATE CONSOLIDATED FUNDING, UH, ROUND APPLICATION, THERE'S NOW WHAT'S KNOWN AS THIS.
UM, WE, DID I SWITCH SCREENS TO THIS? UM, YES.
SO THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF STATE HAS, UH, THROUGH ITS OFFICE OF PLANNING DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, HAS THIS SMART GROWTH COMMUNITY PLANNING AND ZONING GRANT PROGRAM.
AND IT, IT DOES A COUPLE THINGS FOR DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES.
UM, WHAT IT DOES, AND I'LL MAKE IT A LITTLE BIGGER HERE, IS IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO GET A GRANT.
IF YOU'RE A COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO START TO PREPARE A COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
IT'S THE TYPE OF GRANT WHERE IF YOU WANT TO UPDATE YOUR COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UM, IT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.
BUT I WANT YOU TO KEY IN ON THIS FOURTH QUOTE, IF YOU CAN.
I APOLOGIZE IF IT'S, UH, NOT LEGIBLE, BUT I'M GONNA RECITE IT.
UM, IT SAYS, THE PREPARATION AND LOCAL ADOPTION OF NEW OR UPDATED ZONING REGULATIONS THAT WOULD IMPLEMENT ANY SUCH AREA PLANS ALREADY ADOPTED BY SUBJECT TOWN VILLAGE OR, OR CITY.
WHEN I SAW THIS, IT, IT, IT KIND OF BECAME GLARING TO ME THAT THIS IS, UM, ALMOST TAILOR MADE FOR WHAT, WHAT REALLY IS THE NEXT STEP.
WE, WE, WE DO AS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, NEED UPDATED ZONING REGULATIONS TO MAKE THIS FOUR CORNERS, UH, REDEVELOPMENT CONCEPT A REALITY.
UM, WE HAVE AN ADOPTED COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
WE HAVE A, A STRATEGIC PLAN THAT'S ADOPTED BY OUR TOWN BOARD.
SO, UM, THIS TO ME IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
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AND JUST TO BUILD A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THE GRANT, WHAT IT WILL ENABLE IS THE TOWN TO HAVE, IF WE'RE SUCCESSFUL, IS FOR THE TOWN TO HAVE FUNDING TO CARRY OUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS, GET A PLANNING FIRM ON BOARD THAT SPECIALIZES IN PREPARING ZONING DISTRICT LANGUAGE THAT'S INNOVATIVE AND MAY PERHAPS IS USED SOME FORMER BASED CODE ELEMENTS.UM, AND IT ALSO ALLOWS, UH, FOR FUNDING TO, UH, DO THE SEEKER RELATED, UM, COMPONENTS ALONG WITH ADOPTION OF THAT LOCAL LAW.
SO I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
UM, SO I, I'M, I'VE, I'VE APPROACHED THE TOWN BOARD AND, UM, I'M GONNA BE SUBMITTING A GRANT APPLICATION, WHICH IS DUE JULY 28TH.
UM, AND, AND AS ALWAYS WITH THESE GRANTS, UM, I CAN'T STRESS ENOUGH HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO HAVE, UM, A BROAD RANGE OF SUPPORT.
AND, UM, AND TO ME THE PLANNING BOARD IS, YOU KNOW, VERY HIGH UP THERE ON THE LIST AS FAR AS, UH, YOU KNOW, A LETTER OF SUPPORT.
SO I DID CIRCULATE A DRAFT LETTER, UM, BY EMAIL TODAY, AND I APO, IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT, I APOLOGIZE.
UM, BUT IN SHORT, IT, IT ESSENTIALLY SUMMARIZES, UM, THE POINTS THAT I MADE HERE TODAY.
AND JUST LASTLY, UM, IT DOES MAKE REFERENCE TO, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION, WHICH I DO REMIND THE PLANNING BOARD.
UH, WE CONDUCT A PUBLIC, UH, OUTREACH SESSION.
SO YOU GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS, MUCH OF WHICH WAS POSITIVE.
UM, SO WE BUILT THAT ELEMENT INTO THE, UH, DRAFT LETTER OF SUPPORT.
SO I'M GONNA STOP SHARING SCREEN.
I'LL STOP THERE AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ANY, ANY QUESTIONS.
WALTER, I ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORT WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND IS, UH, AND IT WAS GREAT THAT YOU WERE A ABLE TO PICK THAT UP.
UH, THIS SENTENCE OUT OF THE, OF THE LAW.
I HAVE ONE CONCERN, WHICH I THINK IS EASILY MANAGEABLE.
THE LAST TIME WE HAD A CONSULTANT TO LOOK AT THE FOUR CORNERS, THE CONSULTANT WAS DRAGGED IN SO MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ABSOLUTELY.
THAT THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO ACHIEVE WHAT WE INITIALLY ENVISIONED.
I WOULD LIKE, UH, THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT THAT CONSULTANT WILL BE FOCUSED ON THE FOUR CORNERS AND NOT DRAGGED IN IN ALL OTHER WAYS AND NOT ABLE TO GET THE JOB ACCOMPLISHED.
I WILL SAY, UM, UH, UH, THEY, THEY WILL ABSOLUTELY BE LASER FOCUSED.
AND, UM, I DO WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT.
UH, I, I'VE GONE THROUGH THE GRANT APPLICATION, UH, SIGNIFICANTLY AND WHAT'S UNIQUE TO IT IS IT ACTUALLY REQUIRES THAT WHEN YOU BRING A CONSULTANT ON, YOU HAVE TO, UH, CREATE A, A ZONING, UM, ORDINANCE, UH, COMMITTEE.
AND IT MANDATES THAT THERE'S ONE PLANNING BOARD MEMBER AND IT SAYS ONE ZONING BOARD MEMBER.
UM, I WAS ACTUALLY GONNA, UM, IF, IF WE GET THAT FAR AND WE'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO GET THE GRANT, I FEEL LIKE AN A D L MEMBER, UH, WOULD BE WONDERFUL TO HAVE ON.
BUT, UM, THERE WILL ACTUALLY BE OVERSIGHT, UM, BY THIS COMMITTEE OF WHICH THERE WILL BE A PLANNING BOARD MEMBER.
SO, UM, IF THAT'S YOU, WALTER, IF THAT'S ANOTHER PLANNING BOARD MEMBER, UH, WE CAN WORK TOGETHER AND, YOU KNOW, ALL REMAIN LA LASER FOCUSED AND KEEP THAT CONSULTANT, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EYE ON THE PRIZE, WHICH IS REALLY TO, UM, GET ZONING ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT A MAGIC WAND.
ALL YOU'RE DOING IS CREATING LEGISLATION.
YOU NEED, UM, YOU KNOW, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY TO STEP UP AND PROPERTY OWNERS TO BE MOTIVATED.
UM, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, TO ANSWER YOUR, YOUR, YOUR, YOUR CONCERN, UM, IT'S A GOOD ONE.
AND, UM, THIS IS DEFINITELY A NARROWLY FOCUSED TASK.
WELL, WE'RE HAPPY IF YOU NEED US TO WRITE A LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD SAYING HOW STRONGLY BESIDES THE LETTER YOU'RE ASKING US TO SEND TO THE STATE, HAPPY TO HAVE A PLANNING BOARD DRAFT A LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD, UH, REMINDING HIM THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT PROJECT FOR THE TOWN.
AND WE'RE THAT WE, WE IS, WE, OUR, OUR EXPECTATION IS THAT THIS CONSULTANT BE USED FOR THIS ONLY WE COULD DO THAT.
THAT WAS, IF EVERYBODY'S COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, I, I, I'M COMFORTABLE HAVING A, LET US WRITE A LETTER THAT WAY.
JUST SO FROM MY EDUCATION, I DO REMEMBER THE PROJECT, 'CAUSE I REMEMBER THE ACCOUNT PLAN, BUT THE, HOW DO YOU HIRE THE CONSULTANT? IS IT, IS IT GO OFF A BID? IS IT AN R F A? WHAT, HOW DOES, HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? GOOD QUESTION.
SO THE PROCESS, WE ABSOLUTELY WOULD, IF WE, IF WE ARE SUCCESSFUL, UM, WITH THE GRANT, ONE OF THE EARLY STEPS WILL BE TO, AS I MENTIONED, FORM A A COMMITTEE THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, FOCUSED ON THIS, THIS PROCESS.
BUT THEN, UH, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UH, THROUGH OUR DEPARTMENT'S DIRECTION WOULD, WOULD ISSUE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS.
SO WE WOULD GO SELECT, SIT, UM, UH, FOR PLANNING FIRMS ALL ACROSS THE STATE, UM, THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THIS TYPE OF WORK.
AND PART OF THAT, YOU'D HAVE A SCOPE OUTLINED
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FOR THAT, RIGHT? WELL THAT, AND SO THAT GOES TO WHAT YOU WERE JUST SAYING, HAVING THAT SCOPE.WELL, THAT WAS A MISTAKE THAT WAS MADE THE LAST TIME WE, WALTER AND I, WHO ACTUALLY WERE ON THE SEARCH COMMITTEE, TRIED TO GET A SCOPE DONE AND THE SCOPE NEVER REALLY GOT DONE.
AND THE, AND THE, THE CONSULTANT ENDED UP DOING ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS AND BASICALLY ACCOMPLISHED.
AND SO YOU HAD NOTHING TO GO BACK AND SAY, RIGHT, RIGHT.
SO THE SCOPE IS EXTREMELY, THAT'S THE RIGHT, THAT'S THE KEY STEP THAT YOU HAVE TO SCOPE.
WELL, THAT'S THE FIRST THING THE COMMITTEE SHOULD DO.
WHAT, WHAT WERE THE OTHER DISTRACTIONS? THAT THAT WAS THE MAJOR DISTRACTION.
THAT, THAT THERE WAS NO SCOPE.
THERE WAS NO SCOPE AND, AND, AND HE GOT PULLED.
I I DON'T WANNA GO INTO THE DETAILS OF IT.
UH, I CAN TELL YOU OFFLINE, BUT, UM, HE, THE CONSULTANT GOT PULLED IN TOO MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.
AND NOTHING REALLY GOT AC VERY LITTLE NOT, I WOULDN'T SAY NOTHING GOT ACCOMPLISHED.
LITTLE GOT ACCOMPLISHED THIS PROJECT IN THIS, THIS PROJECT ALONE.
YOU, I KNOW THIS BECAUSE WE DISCUSSED THIS IN A B L AND WALTER THAT THIS PROJECT ALONE IS HUGE PROJECT.
'CAUSE THERE ARE A LOT, SO MANY ISSUES HERE.
THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, YOU KNOW, THE DRAINAGE ISSUE ISSUE, THE HOUSING, THE ISSUE OF, OF HOW, HOW DO, HOW DO YOU TAKE FOUR CORNERS ACROSS THAT ARE ACROSS EACH OTHER IN CENTRAL AVENUE AND ACTUALLY TRY TO PULL 'EM TOGETHER AS A COMMUNITY THAT'S NOT E THAT'S NOT AN EASY SITUATION TO SOLVE IF YOU CAN SOLVE IT AT ALL.
HOW DO WE MAKE THIS MORE INTO A COMMUNITY RATHER THAN JUST FOUR BUILDINGS ON FOUR CORNERS OF, OF IT.
IT'S A REAL, IT'S A REAL CHALLENGE.
AND YOU STILL HAVE HOMEOWNERS.
AND YOU STILL HAVE THE APARTMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, ON BOTH SIDES.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE HOMEOWNERS WHO LIVE ON HARTSDALE AVENUE, YOU KNOW, UH, WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, JUST OH YEAH.
SCREAM SCREAMING THEIR ABOUT THE TRAFFIC IS ALREADY ALL THE WAY UP TO, UH, YOU KNOW, SHECHTER WOODLANDS.
WE'LL, WE'LL TALK MARTIN, IT IS A CHALLENGE, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA, UH, GO INTO DETAILS HERE.
BUT YOU KNOW, BEYOND THIS, THIS GRANT, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF POSITIVE, UM, ASPECTS OCCURRING RIGHT NOW.
WHETHER IT'S, UH, GRANT IMPLE IMPLEMENTATION WITH THE, UH, EAST WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UM, TAP GRANT, UH, HAWK SIGNALS GOING LIVE, UH, VERY SOON.
UM, WE'VE GOT SIDEWALKS ON THE HORIZON.
SO, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UM, REALLY WELL IF MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT NEVER COMES TO FOUR CORNERS, UH, WILL BE POSITIVE FOR THE AREA.
BUT, UM, I DO THINK THAT ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE OCCURRING AND SLATED TO OCCUR, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD MAKE THIS CONCEPT VIABLE.
AND IT COULD ALSO PULL THE REST OF THE STUFF THAT'S ACTUALLY OFF OF FOUR CORNERS TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, AND BE SUCH, SUCH A BENEFIT TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THOSE APARTMENT BUILDINGS WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF THERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SADLY, UM, I REMEMBER ONE BUSINESS PARTICULAR ON FOUR CORNERS THAT CAME IN HERE AND WALTER AND I LOOKED AT EACH OTHER AND SAID, GEE, I WISH THERE WAS A WAY WE WE COULD TURN THIS ONE DOWN 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA BE OUTTA BUSINESS IN SIX MONTHS.
AND SURE ENOUGH, SHE WAS, YEAH, BECAUSE IT'S JUST A TOUGH, TOUGH AREA TO LAUNCH A BUSINESS AND THAT THAT'S TURNED OVER TWICE OR THREE TIMES SINCE SHE'S BEEN IN THERE, I THINK.
SO IT'S, IT'S, THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT AND THANK YOU GARRETT.
WE'LL, WE'LL GET THAT LETTER OUT AND WE'LL CONSIDER, CONSIDER THE, THE, UH, LETTER TO THE TOWN BOARD AS WELL.
SO JUST TO RAISE VOTE, TAKE THE VOTE TO SUPPORT.
CAN I HAVE A VOTE TO SUPPORT THE LETTER? SOME MOVED.
AND I THINK YOU WANTED TO INCLUDE A STRICT SCOPE OR SOMETHING ABOUT NARROWING? NOT IN THIS LETTER.
THAT'S, THAT'S AN BOARD LETTER.
THAT'S AN INTERNAL LETTER THAT WE CAN SEND IN AUGUST.
WE DON'T UNDERST SEND THAT TONIGHT, BUT YEAH, THIS IS ONLY, THIS IS GOING TO THE STATE.
WE DON'T WANT TO TALK, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE, YEAH.
WE'LL FIND OUT IN DECEMBER IF THE GRANT IS, UH, AWARDED.
WE, WE DON'T HAVE HAVE TO RUSH TO THE TOWN BOARD.
BUT YOU NEED, YOU NEED A VOTE.
ALL OPPOSED? WE'LL GET THAT BACK OFF.
IS MONA THERE? OKAY, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.
SO SHE WAS OKAY SOME OTHER TIME.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, ONCE THE SIDEWALK GO GOES IN FROM TOWN HALL, TAKE YEAH, I WILL BE WALKING TO THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
I'M GONNA HAVE, OH, THAT'S GREAT.
I'M GONNA HAVE A A, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? INITIATION WALK.
YEAH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN INITIATION WALK.
MICHAEL, WOULD YOU LEAVE? NEXT MEETING IS AUGUST 16TH FOR EVERYONE.