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WORK SESSION RECORDING IN PROGRESS.WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION.
TODAY IS SEPTEMBER, UH, 12TH, AND IT'S 5 23.
AND, UM, PETER ASP IS THE MANAGER OF OUR, UH, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY OFFICE, AND HE HAS A PRESENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME PRESS THE MIC.
I'D LIKE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT MICROSOFT 365.
I HAVE A LITTLE PRINTOUT HERE FOR EVERYONE.
UM, SO, UM, WE HAVE A, A LARGE NUMBER OF DISPARATE SYSTEMS. WE SHOULD HAVE ENOUGH, RIGHT? YES.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT IS TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE, UH, A NUMBER OF THESE DISCONNECTED SYSTEMS AS WELL AS BRINGING US UP TO DATE, UM, AND CURRENT.
AND, UM, OFFICE 365, WHICH WE, WHICH IS THE CURRENT VERSION WE USE OFFICE 2016.
UM, THERE'S A NEED FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD TO ENABLE MORE COLLABORATION, COMMUNICATION, AND, AND BETTER, UH, ADMINISTRATIVE WORKFLOW AND, AND OFFICE.
IT USED TO BE OFFICE 365, NOW IT'S MICROSOFT 365.
AND BASICALLY ALL IT, IT STARTS OUT WITH THOSE APPS THAT WE'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH OUTLOOK AND, AND, AND POWERPOINT AND EXCEL AND WORD, AND THEN ADDS A WHOLE LOT OF BACKEND STUFF FOR THE IT PEOPLE TO USE TO MANAGE SECURITY, MANAGE THE DEVICES.
UM, AS, AS WELL AS IT'S GIVING US A, A BUNCH OF NEW PRODUCTS, WHICH I WILL MENTION BRIEFLY.
BUT, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THE MICROSOFT, WITH THE OFFICE PRODUCTS, UM, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ROLL THESE OUT WITHOUT ANY BIG CHANGES TO THE USERS.
WHAT'S REALLY NICE ABOUT THEM IS WE'LL GIVE THEM THESE PRODUCTS THE FIRST DAY, AND THEY'LL BE, THEY WON'T BE LOST.
NOW WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE THEM EDUCATION AND PLAN IS TO DO TRAINING AND SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THIS, YOU HAVE OUTLOOK, BUT HERE'S ALL THE NEW THINGS YOU CAN DO WITH IT.
UM, MICROSOFT TEAMS, WHICH, WHICH IS A HUGE COMPONENT OF THIS, IT'S KIND OF LIKE ZOOM, BUT ON STEROIDS.
SO IT'S ZOOM TO DO YOUR, UM, UH, WEBINAR OR, UM, CHATTING, VIDEO CHATTING, UH, VOICE CHATTING.
BUT IT'S ALSO A HUB FOR A LOT OF OTHER DIFFERENT APPLICATIONS TO PLUG INTO, TO BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE, SUCH AS, UM, YOU CAN HAVE A, UH, A PROJECT PLAN IN THERE AND YOU CAN ASSIGN DIFFERENT, UM, TESTS TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE ON YOUR TEAM.
UM, AND AS THEY SEE IT, THEY WOULD CLICK ON, OKAY, I FINISHED THAT.
YOU WOULD BE NOTIFIED BACK THAT I FINISHED THAT.
AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IN A VERY, UH, ORGANIZED WAY.
UM, UH, TEAMS, UM, WOULD NOT REPLACE ZOOM IN IN THE SHORT TERM, MAYBE DOWN THE ROAD.
WE ARE VERY ENTRENCHED WITH ZOOM.
EVERYBODY'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH ZOOM.
I'M NOT, UM, A, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHEN I, ESPECIALLY EVEN IN MY OFFICE, ARE LIKE, OH, WE DON'T LIKE THAT MICROSOFT TEAMS THING.
ZOOM IS DOING EXACTLY WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
BUT MAYBE IF TIME GOES ON, WE CAN LOOK.
SO ZOOM IS LIKE THE A O L
UH, YES, YOU COULD PUT IT THAT WAY.
I'M TRUTHFULLY THOUGH, I WOULDN'T SAY THAT
YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THOUGHT ZOOM WOULD, UH, BE DONE BY NOW.
THE PANDEMIC PANDEMIC'S OVER, YOU KNOW, BUT THEY'VE, THEY'VE DEFINITELY INCREASED THE, UH, VIABILITY OF THEIR PRODUCT AND, UH, THEY'RE HANGING IN THERE.
SO, BUT MICROSOFT, GOOGLE AND THE REST OF 'EM ARE TRYING TO KNOCK 'EM OUT.
AND, AND MICROSOFT RIGHT NOW IS, IS DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.
UM, FOR US THOUGH, HERE AT THE TOWN.
BESIDES THE APPLICATIONS, IT'S ALSO GOING TO ENABLE SOME BACKEND STUFF THAT WE REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WANT.
ONE OF WHICH IS WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW PEOPLE TO, UH, RESET THEIR OWN PASSWORDS, UM, FOR US, NOT SUCH A BIG DEAL FOR THE POLICE, APPARENTLY THAT'S A DAILY ITEM.
UM, THEY'RE CONSTANTLY FORGETTING PASSWORDS.
UM, WE'LL NOW HAVE A WEBSITE WHERE YOU WOULD AUTHENTICATE INTO, WE ALL HAVE NO ONE LOVE DUO.
UM, WE'LL, WE'LL USE A MICROSOFT VERSION OF DUO WHERE YOU'LL GET A, UM, A PROMPT ON YOUR PHONE.
UM, BUT FOR THE POLICE, THAT WOULD BE A HUGE TIMETABLE FOR THEM.
UM, WE'RE ALSO GOING TO, UM, NOT BE HAVING TO CHANGE OUR PASSWORD EVERY 90 DAYS.
UM, THE NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY, AS WELL AS ALL THE INDUSTRY GROUPS SAY THAT THAT'S A VERY BAD IDEA TO CHANGE PASSWORDS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO DO A POLICY THAT WE ARE GOING TO STOP CHANGING PASSWORDS TO STAY WITH THE CURRENT RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE, OF THE, UH, OF THIS, OF THESE TECHNICAL GROUPS.
UM, THEY SAY THAT YOU NEVER HEARD THAT? WHAT? I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT.
I'LL, I CAN SEND YOU THE, UH, I CAN SEND YOU SOME OF THE DOCUMENTATION YEAH.
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BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD.I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE GONNA, ARE YOU GONNA GO BACK TO WHERE YOU SAID REPLACE HIS DUAL, THE MULTIFACTOR ALTERCATION? ARE YOU GONNA GO BACK TO THIS? I CAN, NO, WE'LL JUST TALK ABOUT IT NOW.
SO TELL ME, TELL, I JUST WANTED MORE INFORMATION.
'CAUSE WE CURRENTLY USE DUO NOW.
SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS IT GONNA, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE GOING TO BE? IT, IT IS BASICALLY THE SAME EXACT THING, BUT A DIFFERENT APP.
UM, NOT GONNA BE THE GREEN DUO.
I, NO, THE PROBLEM WITH DUO, FIRST OF ALL, COSTS US $9,000 A YEAR.
UM, AND, UM, THIS IS BUILT INTO OUR SUBSCRIPTION TO MICROSOFT 365.
UM, AND IT HAS THE SAME FUNCTIONALITY.
IT JUST WILL EITHER, IT WILL POP BACK A, LIKE I JUST SIGNED ON TO TEAMS, IT POP BACK AND SAYS, I NEED TO TYPE IN THE NUMBER THAT SHOWS ON THE SCREEN IN MY PHONE, AND WHEN SECONDS IT NOW LETS ME IN.
SO YOU ALWAYS GONNA HAVE TO HAVE EITHER YOUR, YOUR PHONE WITH YOU IN ORDER TO LOG IN.
WHEN YOU'RE HERE, UM, AT, AT THE TOWN HALL, WANT, NEED MULTIFACTOR AUTHENTICATION TO SIGN ONTO, LIKE THE PCS HERE.
BUT LIKE YOU DO NOW, IF YOU DON'T SIGN ON TO EMAIL OUTSIDE OF HERE, YOU GET THAT, THAT PROMPT FROM DUO, IT'LL BE THIS THE SAME THING THAT WOULD BE FROM MICROSOFT.
THAT, THAT MULTIFACTOR A DEDICATION PREVENTS, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU TALK TO, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 88 TO 99% OF, OF HACKING PHISHING ATTACKS.
UM, SO, UM, IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT, ALTHOUGH WE ACTUALLY HAD SOMEONE HERE AT THE TOWN WHO, UM, HELPED, UH, THEY GOT A PROMPT FROM DUO THAT WAS UNREQUESTED AND FOLLOWED UP.
SO IN A WAY, KIND OF GOT HACKED.
NOW IT TURNED OUT TO BE NOTHING MM-HMM.
THAT'S, AND WHEN I TALK TO ALL THE VENDORS I TALK TO TODAY, I, THEY'RE, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS, REQUIREMENTS IS THAT THEY MUST BE ABLE TO SUPPORT MULTIFACTOR AUTHENTICATION BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO PREVENT A LOT OF THESE THINGS.
AND MOST OF IT'S BECAUSE SOMEBODY CLICKED ON A LINK.
IS FISHING THROUGH MICROS LAW 365 THE FISHING, NO.
AND THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT THING, YOU KNOW, WE ARE KEEPING THIS PHISHING ATTACKS, AND AS ANNOYING AS IT IS, IT IS JUST KEEPING PE IN FOREFRONT OF PEOPLE'S MINDS.
SO THEY'RE GONNA GET RID OF THE SPELLING MISTAKES AND GRAMMATICAL ERRORS THAT WE'RE ALSO USED TO.
AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE KEY.
YOU SEE SPELLING ERRORS, THAT'S GOTTA BE PHISHING NORMALLY.
SO, UM, I GET TWO OR THREE EMAILS A DAY FROM FOLKS HERE AT THE TOWN, AND IT'S GREAT THAT THEY'RE KEEPING THAT.
THEN LET ME CHECK IT OUT AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO, UM, BECAUSE I DON'T WANNA BE THE PERSON ON THE FRONT OF THE PAPER THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, WE GOT THAT.
SO WHAT DO YOU DO? DO YOU HAVE A VIRTUAL DRIVE THAT YOU, THEY CAN OPEN IT ON? SO, NO, USUALLY I CAN TELL RIGHT AWAY.
UM, USUALLY, LIKE, THERE WAS ONE TODAY, AND IT WAS APPARENTLY FROM AN EMPLOYEE WHO WANTED TO CHANGE THEIR, UH, BANKING INFORMATION.
BUT THE EMAIL I HELD, I HOVERED OVER THE EMAIL ADDRESS AND IT WAS A ROADRUNNER ACCOUNT.
SO RIGHT THERE, IT'S DONE DELETE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING QUESTIONABLE, DELETE IT.
IF IT'S THAT IMPORTANT, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA SEND YOU A FOLLOW UP, OR THEY'RE GONNA CALL YOU OR, OR WHATEVER.
SO, UM, I DO HAVE A, I DO HAVE A SYSTEM THAT I CAN, UH, SANDBOX, THAT I CAN COPY THINGS TO TAKE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, DISCONNECT THE NETWORK, SEE WHAT IT DOES.
BUT VERY RARELY DO I GO THAT FAR.
I DON'T REALLY WANT TO TAKE THAT CHANCE THAT IT IS REAL MALWARE AND THAT IT'S GONNA CAUSE A PROBLEM.
I'D RATHER JUST DELETE IT, MOVE ON.
SO WHEN YOU'VE DELETED ALL THE WAY, IT'S DEFINITELY, ONCE YOU DELETE IT, IT'S GONE.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, UH, NOTHING'S EVER GONE.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I ASKED.
UM, THE THING IS, IT'S, IT'S WHAT'S GOING TO ACTIVATE WHATEVER IS CLICKING, UH, THAT LINK AND, YOU KNOW, IT, IT CAN REMAIN DORMANT LIKE THAT WITHOUT, WITHOUT REAL ANY RAIL RUSH.
NOW, THE DAYS OF, OF THE WORMS WHERE THEY WOULD SELF REPLICATE, UM, ARE STILL THERE.
BUT NOW WE HAVE SOFTWARE THAT'S SPECIFICALLY TARGETED.
WE HAVE A LOT OF SECURITY SOFTWARE HERE.
AND, UH, ACTUALLY, WE ACTUALLY, TODAY, JUST BEFORE HERE, I WAS IN THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE BECAUSE OUR SECURITY SOFTWARE WAS BEING A LITTLE BIT TOO AGGRESSIVE.
UM, BUT I'D MUCH RATHER HAVE THAT THAN AGAIN, BEING ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEWSPAPER.
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SO, UH, OVER IN THE LOWER RIGHT, I'M SORRY, LOWER LEFT, UM, INTUNE, TEAM VIEWER, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WOULD USE IN IT TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR PCS AND PHONES.RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T TAKE CARE OF PHONES.
WE DON'T HAVE REALLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO, THIS WOULD ALLOW US TO TAKE CARE OF PHONES.
UM, THE, ONE OF THE BIG THINGS IS WITH THE APPLE, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN TO TAKE CARE OF? OKAY.
SO LIKE RIGHT NOW WITH THE APPLE DEVICE, IF YOU LOSE IT AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR, UH, APPLE ID AND PASSWORD IS, WE CAN'T FIND IT.
IT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO CREATE AN ADMINISTRATIVE PASSWORD THAT'S GONNA ALLOW US TO CONNECT, AND THEN IT'S GONNA DO THAT PHONE HOME THING AND TELL US EXACTLY WHERE IT, TO FIND, FIND MINE, FIND MY PHONE.
UM, IT'S ALSO GONNA ALLOW US, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M SURPRISED THAT HASN'T BEEN BROUGHT UP IS ALL ABOUT TIKTOK.
YOU KNOW, NEW YORK CITY NOW PREVENTS TIKTOK FROM BEING ON A DEVICES.
I DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY NOW TO STOP THAT.
ONCE WE HAVE, WE ARE ABLE TO MANAGE THEM, WE'D BE ABLE TO SAY, TIKTOK IS NOT ALLOWED, OR WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
UM, THAT WILL CREATE MORALE PROBLEMS AMONG FLUID.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO SAY WE CONSIDERED AND WE MADE THE DECISION EITHER ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, AND, AND WE MOVE ON.
I'M GLAD THEY CAN DO, USE TIKTOK ON THEIR HOME DEVICE WHEN THEY GET HOME.
MORALE MAY GO DOWN, PRODUCTIVITY WILL GO UP
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THERE'S ALSO, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE ARE TIMES TOO WHERE WE'VE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO REMOTE INTO A PHONE.
WE CAN'T RIGHT NOW TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE SEEING.
UH, ONCE WE PUT THIS ALL INTO PLACE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO REMOTE INTO YOUR PHONE WITH YOUR, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR PERMISSION.
OF COURSE, YOU'D HAVE TO CLICK ON SOMETHING AND WE'D ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT AND HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO TROUBLESHOOT THAT.
UH, RIGHT NOW WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS TELL YOU, BRING YOUR PHONE IN.
IT, IT'S DEFINITELY A, A A LITTLE BIT HIGHER LEVEL.
NOT, I DON'T WANNA USE THE WORD CONTROL.
I WOULD SAY, MAN, I'M NOT, NOT OUT TO CONTROL EVERYBODY.
HOW EXPENSIVE IS THIS NEW? UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S TOUGH TO COME, COME UP WITH A REAL NUMBER BECAUSE THERE ARE A LOT OF MOVING PARTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO STOP USING.
SO BASICALLY WHAT I FIGURED OUT, IT'S GONNA BE $15,000 MORE A YEAR THAN WE PAY NOW.
UM, BECAUSE WE ARE GETTING RID OF ALL THESE THINGS LIKE DUO AND AD MANAGER AND ENDPOINT CENTRAL AND PRINT LOGIC, AND EVEN DROPBOX, ALL THESE KINDS OF THINGS.
UM, THE NICE THING ABOUT THE, UM, MICROSOFT 365 IS NOW IT'S ONE PAYMENT.
THE BAD THING IS IT'S A SUBSCRIPTION.
SO IF WE WANNA KEEP USING ALL THIS STUFF WE PAY EVERY YEAR.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, I FIND FRUSTRATING AND OTHER EMPLOYEES HAVE COMPLAINED, UM, IS THE SEARCH ENGINE THAT WE HAVE IS LIKE, I'D SAY REALLY VERY BAD.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, HALF THE TIME, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE HIT AND MISS MANY TIMES.
YOU KNOW, I'LL SEARCH SOMETHING AND I JUST DON'T GET IT.
AND I'M JUST SORT OF WONDERING IF THIS, UH, SYSTEM WILL HELP US, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS THAT.
FIRST OF ALL, UH, MICROSOFT'S NATIVE SEARCH IN, UM, IN EXCHANGE OR OUTLOOK IS GOING TO BE MUCH BETTER.
WE'RE ALSO MOVING TO A NEW BACKEND ARCHIVING SYSTEM THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW BETTER SEARCHING.
UM, THE SEARCH RIGHT NOW ONLY USES ANDS.
SO YOU CAN ONLY SAY, YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TODAY.
IT SAID, UM, APPLE BUSINESS MANAGER.
SO THAT SAID, YOU HAVE TO HAVE THOSE THREE WORDS.
IF I WANTED TO SAY BUSINESS MANAGER, NOT APPLE, I CAN'T DO THAT RIGHT NOW.
SO THIS NEW SYSTEM WILL ALLOW US TO DO THAT.
UM, THE OTHER PROBLEM IS TOO, AND, AND IN DISCUSSING IT WITH MR. DENKO, IS THAT WE HAVE 10 TERABYTES OF DATA BECAUSE WE HAVE UNLIMITED AMOUNTS OF DATA.
UM, AND WE ARE DISCUSSING MAYBE SETTING A LIMIT TO HOW LONG WE KEEP CERTAIN DATA, UM, FOR YOU FOLKS, UNFORTUNATELY, WE'D PROBABLY KEEP IT FOREVER, BUT FOR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE OTHER FOLKS, WE DON'T NEED TO KNOW WHAT THERE WAS GOING ON WITH THEM 15 YEARS AGO.
UM, SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING INTO IT.
WE'RE ALSO CHECKING THE, THE LETHAL RAMIFICATIONS AS WELL AS IF WE SET THE DATE AT SEVEN YEARS, WHICH IS KIND OF THE, THE FACTO STANDARD, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT SAVE? BECAUSE DOING THOSE SEARCHES, YOU KNOW, OVER 10 TERABYTES OF DATA TAKES A LONG TIME.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, NOT GETTING THE RESPONSE THAT YOU WANT.
CAN WE, UM, CAN WE PICK AND CHOOSE WHICH ONES WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP AND WITH LONGER? AND YES.
SO THEY, THEY LEGALLY, MR. FINER BEING THE REPRESENTATIVE, YOU KNOW, THE HEAD OF THE TOWN, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORD.
UM, HE HAS TO BE KEPT FOREVER AS WELL AS MR. DANKO HAS TO BE, UH, KEPT FOREVER.
UM, EVERYBODY ELSE IS KIND OF FALLS INTO A, YOU KNOW, A DIFFERENT CLASSIFICATION.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A WHOLE FORM OF IF IT'S THIS KIND OF DATA OR THIS KIND OF PERSON, IT, IT, IT COMES INTO THIS KIND OF YEARLY THING.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA DELETE
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MORE THAN WE HAVE TO, BUT WE DO WANT TO KEEP IT MANUAL.I, I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT LUNCH MENUS FROM 15 YEARS AGO, OR, YOU KNOW, HEY, YOU KNOW, CAN YOU MEET ME HERE? OH, CAN YOU MEET ME HERE? YOU KNOW, THAT 10 TERABYTES OF DATA, WE'RE GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE IT'S GONNA START COSTING US A LOT MORE MONEY TO KEEP THAT DATA.
UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, SO, UM, I THINK WE NEED A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE, UM, SOMETIMES DOING, FRANKLY, 10 YEARS IS NOT MUCH FOR ME, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK.
'CAUSE IF I'M LOOKING AT RESOLUTIONS OR CONTRACTS, SOME OF THE CONTRACTS MAY BE 10 OR 15 YEAR CONTRACTS TO GO BACK AND FIND NOT THAT VERSION, BUT ALSO THE ONE BEFORE TO SEE WHAT THE CHANGES ARE.
WE NEED TO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE.
I MEAN, WE, WE, WE ARE NOT DOING THIS WILLY-NILLY.
WE'RE GOING TO DO IT AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE KEEP EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED.
AND HAVE IT DISCUSSED THE, THAT MY ASK COMMITTEE, YOU DISCUSS IT WITH US.
BEFORE PRESENTING TO THE TOWN BOARD, THIS IS JUST, WE JUST STARTED THIS, UM, OUR CONSULTANT, THE FOLKS THAT HY WHO TAKE CARE OF OUR DATA IN STANFORD, UM, THEY WERE NOT COMPLAINING, BUT BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION THAT WE HAVE SO MUCH DATA AS THEY'RE HAVING A TROUBLE DEALING WITH IT BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS CONVERSION PROCESS TO A NEW ARCHIVING BACKEND.
WELL, PETER, AS, AS YOU KNOW, UM, WE, UH, HAVE A RECORDS OF RETENTION SCHEDULE PROVIDED BY THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
LEGAL CONTRACTS MUST BE, UM, STORED IN PERPETUITY.
BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF RECORDS IN THE STATE OF, IN, IN LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE A RETENTION SCHEDULE AND DO NOT HAVE TO BE STORED FOREVER.
SO, UM, WE, WE, WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO REVIEW ALL THAT AND COME UP WITH A PLAN.
BUT RIGHT NOW I'M LOOKING AT EMAIL.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE FIRST YOU THE FIRST STEP.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHERE OUR, OUR PROBLEM IS, WOULD WE CONTINUE TO USE MAIL STORE FOR, WE ARE NOT, WE ARE USING A NEW PRODUCT STARTING NEXT MONTH.
I BELIEVE IT'S PART OF OUR CONTRACT WITH ILINK.
THEY'RE UPGRADING THEIR SYSTEM, AND I DON'T REALLY, IT'S GOT SOME WEIRD NAME.
I'LL, I'LL PASS IT ON FOR NEXT TIME.
BUT, UM, IT APPARENTLY IS MUCH BETTER AND MUCH MORE ROBUST.
AND, UH, WE'LL HOPEFULLY, UH, MEET OUR NEEDS MUCH BETTER THAN MAIL STORE.
PETER, ARE YOU GOING TO PROVIDE TRAINING FOR EVERYBODY ON ALL THESE DIFFERENT YES, I'LL
I'M LOOKING FOR AN ASSISTANT, A PROFESSOR THOUGH, BECAUSE, UH, I THINK WHEN THIS ALL COMES, I MEAN, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT TEAMS, NOT TEAMS, UM, ABOUT MICROSOFT 365 IN THE, IN THE TIME WE'VE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS IN THE LAST TWO OR THREE MONTHS, I THINK WE'VE COME UP WITH FIVE OR SIX UNBELIEVABLE IDEAS OF THINGS WE CAN IMPLEMENT.
UM, WE WERE TALKING WITH JOE LUC OVER AT THE, UH, PARKS AND REC, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HOW THEY DEAL WITH THE SUMMER HELP AND HOW IT'S A NIGHTMARE TIMELY WISE.
WELL, UH, MICROSOFT HAS A PRODUCT CALLED SHIFTS THAT IS DESIGNED EXACTLY FOR THIS.
WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT, THE BOARD MEETING, I THINK THE LAST BOARD MEETING MM-HMM.
UM, I WAS SPEAKING WITH ANNETA ABOUT FORMS AND GA GATHERING DATA FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE TAKING TRAINING BECAUSE SHE SENT ME A PAPER FORM THE OTHER DAY.
I'M LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO ACTUALLY WRITE ON IT?
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN, UM, WORKING WITH, UM, BRIAN SIMMONS AND, UH, WE CREATED A FORM FOR D B W BECAUSE OF ALL THE REQUESTS THAT PEOPLE WANT.
UM, THESE FORMS ACTUALLY HAVE, UH, BRANCHING.
SO YOU COULD SAY, IF I ACTUALLY DID A TEST WITH MY, WITH MY STAFF, DO YOU WANT A T-SHIRT? YES OR NO? IF YOU SAID YES, IT SAYS IT ACTUALLY THE SIZE.
IF YOU SAY NO, IT SKIPS DOWN TO THE NEXT, THE NEXT THING.
SO, UM, THERE'S SOME REALLY EASY WAYS WE CAN GET RID OF SOME OF THESE ADMINISTRATIVE HURDLES.
I'M SORRY, I'M JUST SO COLD HERE.
WE GOTTA MAKE SURE WE, WE EVERYONE'S AWAKE, RIGHT? YEAH, JUST REALLY QUICKLY.
SO AS YOU ARE, AS YOU MENTIONED, UM, IT'S REPLACING THE FORMS LIKE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE STILL DOING A LOT OF HANDWRITTENS AND I'M GONNA DE DETER TO BOTH OF YOU GUYS.
SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF HANDWRITTEN FORMS AND WE'RE SIGNING EVERYTHING OFF.
SO ARE WE AT SOME POINT MOVING OVER TO ADOBE OR ELECTRONIC SIGNATURE? IS THERE, YES.
I'M HOPING WHEN WE ARE THERE, THERE'S A BETTER SOLUTION THAN ADOBE.
YOU DON'T LIKE ADOBE SIGN? NO, I DON'T LIKE THE PRICE TAG OF ADOBE.
IS ADOBE, IS IT ECHO SIGN AND ADOBE THE SAME? NO, I DON'T THINK SO.
SO THEN TAKE A LOOK AT ECHO SIGN.
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'CAUSE I KNOW, OKAY.YEAH, THERE'S, THERE'S A BUNCH.
WE'RE GONNA FIND OUT WHAT, YOU KNOW, WE WANT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA INTEGRATE WITH THE OTHER PRODUCTS WE HAVE.
UM, WE WANT TO BE WORKING WITH THAT.
THAT'S KIND OF A, THAT'S ALSO JUST FORMED, BUT IT'S HIGH END AND I THINK IS GONNA BE A LITTLE MORE TROUBLE FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN HOW TO USE IT EFFECTIVELY.
THE MICROSOFT FORMS, I, YOU CAN BUILD A FORM IN LESS THAN 10 MINUTES.
SO IT'S STILL DIFFERENT THAN BUILDING A FORM IN P D F.
WELL, THE MAIN ADVANTAGE IS THAT YOU GET THE DATA THEN IN ELECTRONIC FORM.
AND YOU CAN IMMEDIATELY USE IT AS OPPOSED TO TAKING OUT THE FORM.
AND THERE'S ALSO, UM, THERE'S THIS THING CALLED POWER AUTOMATE IN THE BACK END OF ALL THIS STUFF.
SO LIKE, SAY SOMEBODY, UH, REGISTERS FOR A CLASS, IT COULD AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGER AN EMAIL SAYING, OKAY, THIS PERSON REGISTERED FOR YOUR CLASS.
UM, WHEN I WAS AT THE COLLEGE, WE BUILT A SYSTEM THAT WE COULD REGISTER PEOPLE FOR CLASSES, BUT IF IT WAS FULL, IT WOULD SEND THEM BACK A NOTE SAYING THE CLASS IS FULL.
AND THEN WHEN, IF THE CLASS NUMBER WENT DOWN, BECAUSE PEOPLE WOULD, UM, CANCEL, THEN IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY SEND AN EMAIL TO THOSE OTHER PEOPLE SAYING, HEY, YOU'RE BACK IN.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT LOGIC, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING THAT HAS TO BE ROUTED ROUTING IS EASY FOR COMPUTERS.
YOU KNOW, YOU DO THIS, BAM, IT GOES OFF TO UM, WHATEVER ELSE.
BUT THERE ARE OTHER THINGS TOO.
WE CAN HAVE IT, I DUNNO, POST THINGS.
WE CAN, YOU KNOW, HAVE IT CHANGED INTO A DIFFERENT FORMAT, YOU KNOW, SO WHATEVER PEOPLE ARE DOING REPETITIVELY, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT.
ARE THERE ANY HARDWARE ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO UPGRADE TO HANDLE THIS? NO, ACTUALLY THIS IS GOING TO, BECAUSE EVERYTHING'S NOW GONNA BE CLOUD-BASED.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, A MICROSOFT EXCHANGE 2016 SERVER.
WE WON'T NEED TO UPGRADE THAT, WHICH WE WOULD'VE HAD TO.
THAT'S 10 PLUS GRAND RIGHT THERE.
SO THAT'S AN OFFSET RIGHT THERE.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF HARDWARE UPSTAIRS THAT IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE DECOMMISSIONED AS TIME GOES ON.
UM, I MEAN, WE STILL RUNNING THAT ASS 400 SYSTEM BECAUSE SOMEBODY WANTS TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT DATA AND THAT SYSTEM'S PROBABLY 10 YEARS OLD.
UM, BUT UM, YOU KNOW, AS TIME GOES ON AND WE MOVE MORE TOWARD THE, UM, TOWARD THE, UH, THE CLOUD, THERE'LL BE LESS AND LESS FOOTPRINT IN THEM.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN IT WERE LIKE, WELL, YOU'RE GOING TO THE CLOUD.
YOU DON'T, DO YOU TRUST MICROSOFT OR, OR AMAZON OR, OR WHOEVER IT MAY BE.
I DON'T THINK WE ARE ANY MORE SECURE THAN THEY ARE.
YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE THOUSAND PROFESSIONALS WORKING ON, UM, ON, UH, SECURITY.
TYLER GOT HACKED A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
UM, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BIGGER TARGET OF COURSE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IF WE DO THIS CAREFULLY, WE'LL MAINTAIN OUR LEVEL OF SECURITY AND THAT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT.
WELL, JUST ONE QUESTION, AND I BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE, UM, THE.GOV YES.
ALL WHICH WE HAVE TO DO, AND WHICH WE WE'RE DONE, WE OWN IT.
UM, SO, UM, IF WE ARE, WE ARE GOING TO PUT IT IN PLACE SO THAT IF YOU TYPE GREENBURG NY.GOV, IT WILL, IT WILL ROLL OVER TO GREEN GREEN.
BUT WE'RE NOT CHANGING OUR EMAIL ADDRESS UNTIL THE STATE OF NEW YORK TELLS US HAVE, 'CAUSE THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE IS THAT PEOPLE ARE SO USED TO E YOU KNOW, I GET, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF EMAILS LIKE A DAY AND IF PEOPLE, IF PEOPLE ARE USED TO EMAILING AND IF WE CHANGED IT, UM, IT REALLY WOULD CREATE, WELL WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S BEING DONE, WHAT'S BEING DONE AT COUNTY IS THAT IT WILL ROLL OVER FOR A GOOD AMOUNT OF TIME.
AND THEN WE CAN ALSO PUT HAVE ON EACH OF OUR EMAILS, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, START YEAH.
WE SET UP AN EMAIL SO THEY'D ACTUALLY GO TO THE SAME MAILBOX.
SO WE'D GO IN AS I THINK THAT'S GREAT.
BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE IN PERPETUITY.
IT COULD, BUT, AND THEN YOU HAVE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE EMAIL UNDER YOUR SIGNATURE THAT PLEASE DON'T, PLEASE KNOW THE ADDRESS IS CHANGING TOO.
IF IT'S DUAL, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE.
SO WHEN THAT LAW TAKES EFFECTS, IF AND WHEN, UM, WE'LL BE READY FOR IT.
UM, THE NICE THING ABOUT, AND THAT'S MORE SECURE THAN.COM.
WELL, MOSTLY BECAUSE A, A, UH, CITIZEN, A PERSON CANNOT REGISTER FOR.GOV ADDRESS.
IT HAS TO BE A GOVERNMENT AGENCY.
UM, THEY CALLED YOU AND, AND YOU HAD TO TALK WITH THEM, I BELIEVE, OR SO, YOU KNOW, I FILLED IT ALL OUT, BUT THEY WOULDN'T LET ME, UM, RED SHIRT BECAUSE THEY NEEDED THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO DO IT.
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PROPONENT OF SWITCHING, UM, TO.GOV 'CAUSE IT HAS BEEN.COM FOR A LONG TIME.BUT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND WHERE, YOU KNOW, PAUL, YOU HAD PAUL FINER.COM GO OUT ON A MAILING AND THAT'S HIS 2023 CAMPAIGN WEBSITE.
IF IT WAS.GOV, THEN PEOPLE WOULD KNOW.
SO WE'RE USING, UH, I WOULD LIKE THIS TO MOVE AWAY FROM COM PROBABLY DIDN'T REALIZE, 'CAUSE I HAVE A COUPLE OF EMAILS ADDRESS AS WELL ON THE CONED ON BIRCHWOOD LANE.
THE, UM, THE EMAIL SAYS TO CONTACT CON ED AT SUCH AND SUCH AND SUCH AND SUCH, CONTACT PAUL FINER@PAULFINER.COM.
WHO, WHO DID CONED SAY THAT? I NEVER, IT'S THE MAILING THAT WENT OUT FROM HERE.
I NEVER SAY TELL PEOPLE THE BLAST.
WHAT'S THAT? FROM THE BLAST THAT COMES OUTTA THE WEBSITE.
IT WAS, UH, WHAT WAS SENT OUT TO ALL THE RESIDENTS
AND HOW DID THEY GET YOUR CAMPAIGN? HOW, HOW THEY GET YOUR PERSONAL I HAVE NO IDEA.
I'LL HAVE TO FIND IT AND TAKE A LOOK.
SOMEBODY TOOK, SOMEBODY TOOK DOWN THE WEBSITE TODAY SO IT'S NOT THERE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, MONETARILY, YOU KNOW, $15,000 IS, IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
BUT, UM, I I THINK WE'RE GETTING $30,000 WORTH OF FEATURE.
UM, I THINK IT'S DEFINITELY GONNA ENABLE US TO COMMUNICATE BETTER.
UM, ONE THING I LOVE IS A LITTLE TEXT CHAT, SO I CAN JUST, EVEN THOUGH MY OFFICE IS VERY SMALL, I SEND A NOTE TO TRISTAN, MAYBE HE'S NOT THERE AT HIS DESK, AT LEAST WHEN HE COMES BACK, UM, THERE'S A LITTLE POPUP THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, THE TEAMS, YOU TALKING ABOUT TEAMS? YEAH.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S JUST SO MUCH GOING ON WITH THAT.
UM, IT'S JUST ANOTHER WAY TO COMMUNICATE.
UM, ARE WE LIMITED TO THESE, THESE APPS HERE THAT YOU HAVE LISTED FOR MICROSOFT? NO.
DO WE HAVE ACCESS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? YES.
UH, NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW WHAT ACCESS IS AND, UH, BUT YES, WE DO HAVE ACCESS.
WE HAVE PUBLISHER, SOME PEOPLE DO.
UM, AND, UH, THERE'S ACTUALLY A BUNCH MORE HERE, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE THE SHIFTS I DIDN'T PUT IN HERE.
UM, THERE ARE, THESE ARE THE MORE POPULAR RIGHT.
UM, PLANNER I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BECAUSE IT'S A WAY TO CREATE PROJECT PLANS, UM, AND BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT.
AND ALSO HAVE PEOPLE, UM, COLLABORATE WITH YOU AT THE SAME TIME.
DO WE GET, DO WE GET THOSE OTHER APPS AS WELL FOR THE $15,000? YES.
AND, AND THEY HAVE THE AUTOMATIC UPDATE EVERYBODY TO INSTALL IT ON FIVE MACHINES.
THAT'S THE LICENSE IS THAT YOU CAN INSTALL IT ON FIVE MACHINES.
SO YOU CAN GO AND INSTALL IT AT HOME WITHOUT VIOLATING OUR LICENSE.
BECAUSE WE CONSIDER IT AS ONE LICENSE.
LIKE EVERYBODY'S CONSIDERED AS ONE PERSON.
NO, YOU AS A PERSON WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU.
YOU MEAN THIS PERSON HAVE PERSONAL USE? YES, YOU CAN.
IT'S PART OF THE AGREEMENT THAT YOU UP TO FIVE.
SO YOU GET YOUR OFFICE PC, YOU GET YOUR LAPTOP IF YOU HAVE ONE, AND THEN THE OTHER THREE, ACCORDING TO MICROSOFT, IS UP TO YOU.
NOW WE CAN OF COURSE SET IN, YOU KNOW, SAY YES OR NO.
THAT'S VERY COOL BECAUSE I'M PAYING FOR IT RIGHT NOW.
WHAT'S THAT? I'M PAYING FOR IT PERSONALLY RIGHT NOW THAT EVERYTHING YOU DO ON ANY ONE OF THOSE FIVE DEVICES GOES WELL, THAT'S WHY I ASKED PERSONAL USE.
BUT THERE SHOULD BE NO EVER, THERE SHOULD NEVER BE ANY EXPECTATION OF PRIVACY ON A DEVICE THAT IS EITHER OWNED BY, MANAGED BY, OR WHATEVER OF ANYBODY.
BEFORE YOU GO, THE OFF THE ONE THAT WE'RE USING NOW, THE OFFICE, UM, 2016, UM, HAVE THEY ANNOUNCED THAT IT'S THAT END OF LIFE IN 2026, I BELIEVE.
EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS 2019 THAT CAME OUT AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF 2021.
WE HAVE 2021 SOME, 2021 LICENSES.
THAT'S THE LATEST VERSION OF THE NON 365.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, SO THAT IT'S DOESN'T SEEM SO BAD.
UH, PRIOR TO 2016, SOME PEOPLE LIKED WORD PERFECT AND THEY USED WORD PERFECT.
SOME PEOPLE LIKED WORD AND THEY USED WORD, I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER SOME OF THEM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS LOTUS 1, 2, 3, THERE WAS EXCEL, AIM PRO.
AND THEN WHEN SOMEBODY WANTED TO SHARE DATA.
SO THAT'S WHEN THE M I S COMMITTEE SAID, NO, WE ALL HAVE TO GO IN ONE DIRECTION.
BUT THIS IS TAKING IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL, OBVIOUSLY.
AND UM, YEAH, I THINK ADS TAKE, AND THAT'S WHY PDFS BECAME SO POPULAR BECAUSE EVEN LIKE WITH THE STATE OF NEW YORK, THEY, THEY WERE ON SOME REALLY OLD SYSTEMS THAT NOBODY COULD READ.
BUT, UM, NOW IT'S THAT, THAT ABILITY TO COMMUNICATE NOW BEYOND JUST SENDING
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THEM AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET.AND ACTUALLY SOMEBODY FROM PLANNING, I BELIEVE ASKED US IF THEY COULD HAVE UP 365 BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO WORK SIMULTANEOUSLY WITH SOMEBODY AT THE STATE ON A DOCUMENT MM-HMM.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITH PRODUCT.
I ASSUME THIS'LL ALLOW US TO PUT LIKE, WE WANT A MEETING ROOM OR SOMETHING ON A CALENDAR, OR FIND OUT WHO'S BUSY, WHO'S NOT.
WHEN YOU'RE SCHEDULING A MEETING.
SO WE'LL ALL BE ABLE TO SEE CALENDARS WHO'S BUSY AT A PARTICULAR TIME.
WHEN IS THE IMPLEMENTATION DATE THAT YOU THINK, UM, MY PLAN IS RIGHT NOW TO GET EVERYTHING, ALL MY DUCKS IN A ROW IN OCTOBER AND START THE ACTUAL MOVING PEOPLE'S MAILBOXES IN NOVEMBER AND BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
UM, SOME PEOPLE HAVE VERY BIG MAILBOXES, UM, SO IT'S GONNA TAKE ACTUALLY HOURS TO MOVE THAT MAIL 'CAUSE IT GOES UP TO THE INTERNET.
BUT, UM, WE, IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT HORRIBLE.
AND I WOULD SAY BY THE END OF THE YEAR WE'LL BE A HUNDRED PERCENT DONE.
AND THAT'S WHEN I WILL START MY TRAINING CLASSES LIKE I DID FOR EXCEL AND THOSE KINDS.
SO ARE WE MOVING EVERYTHING TO THE CLOUD AND WE'LL HAVE NOTHING ON OUR OWN SERVER? THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE, THE DREAM.
BUT, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA ACTUALLY HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON.
I WANNA SPEAK TO OUR TOWN ATTORNEY REGARDING MM-HMM.
THE, THE, THE, THE THING ABOUT IT IS THOUGH, THAT KINDA LIKE WHAT I SAID BEFORE, THEY HAVE ALL THESE THINGS IN PLACE THAT WE NECESSARILY CAN'T, NOW WE HAVE A LOT OF BACKUP.
WE HAVE UNBELIEVABLE BACKUP ACTUALLY.
BUT, UM, YOU'RE PUTTING A LOT OF, OF, OF RESPONSIBILITY TO ON-PREMISE WHEN IT'S REALLY NOT ANY BETTER THAN IT IS OUT IN THE CLOUD.
AND, AND IT'S BEEN PROVEN, BUT I KNOW, BUT WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR DATA WHEN WE NEED ACCESS TO OUR, BUT YOU HAVE MORE ACCESS IF IT'S NOT HERE BECAUSE IF THIS BUILDING HAS PROVIDED, YOU KEEP PAYING A SUBSCRIPTION, RIGHT? YEAH.
WELL, THE DATA WILL NEVER GO AWAY.
WE'LL ALWAYS HAVE A BACKUP COPY.
WE, WE ARE NOT USING, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING IS MICROSOFT TO DO OUR BACKUPS BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BACKUP SEPARATE FROM MICROSOFT.
SO MICROSOFT GOES OUT OF BUSINESS ONE DAY, NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
BUT IF THEY DID, WE WOULD STILL HAVE ALL THAT STUFF THAT 10 TERABYTES IN ANOTHER PLACE THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS AND RESTORE.
AND ONE OF THE TOPICS YOU NEED TO BRING UP IN THE COMMITTEE IS THE BUSINESS CONTINUITY PLAN.
I THINK PAUL, REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LONG TIME AGO.
SO, 'CAUSE IF CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS, HOW ARE WE GONNA CONTINUE BUSINESS IF WE GET SHUT DOWN? WE, WE HAVE A, AND I COULD PROBABLY SPEND, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD HAVE ANOTHER MEETING ABOUT THAT.
BUT WE HAVE, UM, WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH HIGH LINK, UM, THAT ENABLES US TO, TO UH, UH, SPIN UP, UH, VIRTUAL, UM, DESKTOPS.
SO, AND THEN CONNECT DIRECTLY TO THEM SAYING THIS BUILDING WAS INCAPACITATED.
UM, AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYTHING WOULD BE THERE.
SO EVERY, ALL THE DESKTOP ALL'S THE DESKTOP APPS, THAT'S NOW, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE NOW.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING, WE NEED IT BETTER.
BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS, SO SAY THIS BUILDING IS INCAPACITATED, MISSILE STRIKE, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
AGENDA QUICK IS NOW DONE BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN THE CLOUD.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE CL WHERE THE BENEFIT OF THE CLOUD IS.
IF THIS ONE BUILDING IS, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE AGENDA QUICK LIVES LIVE, UM, IT WOULD BE A PROBLEM.
WHEREAS AT THE CLOUD, I KNOW WHERE IT'S PROBABLY IN IDAHO, BUT IT'S JUST, BUT JUST, JUST EVEN DOING THE FUNCTIONS AT ALL.
LIKE IF, YOU KNOW HR FUNCTIONS YEP.
FINANCE FUNCTIONS, UNI, ALL OF THAT STUFF.
SO WE JUST NEED TO BE, THE PLAN IS TO EVALUATE EACH PIECE OF UNI.
AND I'LL BE BACK IN A COUPLE WEEKS TO TALK ABOUT, UM, EMPLOYEE SELF-SERVICE BECAUSE WE JUST GOT A BILL FROM KRONOS.
OUR VERSION IS GOING END OF LIFE, UM, NEXT IN 2004, EARLY 2005.
AND THE NEW VERSION IS GONNA COST US $50,000 A YEAR TO DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
SO I'M GOING TO PITCH TO YOU THAT WE MOVE ON AND, AND, AND PUT ALL THAT, THAT FUNCTIONALITY INTO, UH, MUNI, WHICH ALREADY HAS IT.
WE NEED TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT, THAT STEP.
YOU CAN USE THIS FULL CAPACITY.
SINCE WE HAVE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HERE AND WHY DON'T WE, UH, MOVE TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND THEN GO TO THE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
SO WE'LL TAKE IT OUT OF ORDER.
I JUST NOTICED THAT THE CHAIR THAT WAS IN THE BACK OVER THE DISAPPEARED.
SO WE HAVE, WELL, THERE'S ONE OVER THERE.
THAT COMFORTABLE CHAIR THAT RECLINING THE CHIEF CAN'T MAKE.
IT'S REC, THE CHIEF CAN'T MAKE IT.
SO WE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUSH THAT TOPIC.
WANNA GRAB THE CHAIR? WE NEED OTHER CHAIRS.
WHERE'S THE OTHER CHAIR? RIGHT THERE.
UM, HOW DO YOU, THEY'RE ASKING CAMPBELL, ARE YOU LOGGED INTO, ARE YOU LOGGED INTO TWO? WELL, HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW PRESENTED NEED TO LOG? YEAH.
HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY PEOPLE NEED TO SIT AT THE TABLE? HOW MANY PEOPLE
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ARE PRESENTED? WELL, WE JUST, WE'RE JUST GOING TO DO, HE'S HE'S GOING.I JUST, 'CAUSE I JUST TRYING TO MAKE ROOM AROUND THE TABLE.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M, DO DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE, HAVE, HAS EVERYTHING BEEN MOVING ALONG WITH THE MANHATTAN, JOE? WHEN DO YOU THINK?
OH, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD SAID LIKE A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
THE NEW ONES, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY, UH, REALLY IMPRESSED WITH HOW, UH, ATTRACTIVE LOOKING AT IS WORKING.
THEY'RE WORKING ON THE LANDSCAPE.
THE RAINS THAT IS GONNA LOOK MUCH MORE FREE.
BISHOP, WOULD YOU JUST SHARE YOUR MICROPHONE WITH GARRETT TOO, IN CASE? HOW MUCH DO YOU PAY MR. CAMPBELL? I, WELL, YOU HAVE TO ASK HIM.
SO AGAIN, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR THE BEAUTIFUL JOB THEY'RE DOING ON THE MANHATTAN AVENUE, UH, UNI SITES.
I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDINGS LOOK REALLY NICE.
UH, YOU KNOW, EVERY DAY I PASS BY AND GIVE REAL THRILL, JUST SAYING, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY EXCEEDING MY EXPECTATIONS SO FAR.
UH, BISHOP, IS THIS YOUR MIC? JUST, WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S ON.
YEAH, BUT ED WILL PROBABLY USE THIS MORE THAN MORE THAN I DO.
WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE IT WORK OUT.
ARE YOU LOGGED IN, WOULD YOU? NOT YET.
AND SINCE WE'RE NOT CONNECTED HARD, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN START TALKING SYSTEM COMES AVAILABLE.
CAN WE, THERE IS THAT, WE CAN DO AN INTRODUCTION, RIGHT? YEAH.
WE CAN DO AN INTRODUC LOG ONTO THE WIFI, OF COURSE, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'M LOGGED ONTO TO CABLE ACCESS.
IS THAT WHERE YOU WANT ME TO BE LOGGED ON? NO, GREEN GREENBERG.
AND THEN THIS UPDATE WILL GO DOWN, AUTOMATICALLY HAPPEN AUTOMATICALLY.
SO IS IT A ZOOM UPDATE OR IS IT WHAT YEAH, THIS WAS A ZOOM UPDATE.
WELL, THEY DID HAVE AN IMPORTANT ZOOM UPDATE ABOUT THREE DAYS AGO.
IF YOU'RE SITTING HERE, WHY? DO YOU NEED TO LOG ON? SHARE SCREEN FOR THE PRESENTATION? YEAH, WE, YEAH, WE TO SHARE THE SCREEN.
DID YOU WANT PRESENTATION? UM, WELL LET, LET'S, LET'S START IT THIS WAY.
WHILE HE'S DOING THAT, UM, LET, LEMME SAY GREETINGS AND GOOD EVENING TO ALL OF YOU.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOU, UH, GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU.
UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE ANXIOUSLY TRYING TO PUSH, UH, UH, LOW INCOME HOUSING AND, AND MAKE LOW INCOME HOUSING A, A GREAT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND KEEP IT A GREAT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.
UH, ED IS OUR CONSULTANT THAT'S GONNA BE, UH, MAKING A PRESENTATION OF WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS TIME AND, AND DOING A, UH, RECONSTRUCTION OF THE STATE SITES, WHICH IS 131 UNITS.
OUR AIM AND OUR GOAL IS TO INCREASE DENSITY AS WELL AS, AS, UH, KEEP AND MAINTAIN OR MAINTAIN LOW INCOME HOUSING AT THE SAME TIME.
AND WE WANT, WE WANT TO MAKE THIS PRELIMINARY PRESENTATION OF WHAT OUR DREAM IS, IS AND LOOK AT WHAT, WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO DO, UH, GOING FORWARD.
UH, ONE OF THE REASONS WE WANT TO COME BEFORE YOU AT THIS TIME IS BECAUSE, UM, THERE, THERE ARE SOME, THERE ARE SOME OPPORTUNITIES AND OPPORTUNITIES AND OPTIONS THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE NOW THAT MIGHT FADE AWAY IF WE WAIT TOO LONG.
SO WE WANT TO TRY TO GET THIS STARTED.
ALSO, WE WANT TO, UH, AFTER THE PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CAN ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
IF YOU HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS OF WHAT YOU, YOU FEEL AS THE TOWN BOARD TO, UH, GIVE TO US AS WE, UH, FORMULATE THIS DREAM.
WE, WE DO WELCOME THOSE IN THOSE, UH, IDEAS BECAUSE WE WANNA WORK TOGETHER TO DO WHAT'S BEST FOR THE ENTIRE TOWN, ESPECIALLY THE, UH, PART OF TOWN CALLED FAIRVIEW, WHERE, UM, THE 131 UNITS ARE ED IS OUR CONSULTANT.
AND HE'LL MAKE A PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, MR. ABRAHAM, OUR COUNSEL
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ON JOHN SAVAGE AND HELP MR. CAMPBELL, UH, MR. ROBINSON AND SWEETHEARTUH, BUT, BUT IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW THAT THE QUESTIONS ARE LATER, IF YOU HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS WHY WE, IN THE PLANNING STAGES, WE WANT TO BE INCLUDE THE TOWN BOARD EARLY ENOUGH, RYAN, WE CAN BE ON THE SAME PAGE AS WE MOVE ALONG.
GARRETT HAS BEEN A, A GREAT PART OF THIS, UH, UH, EARLY STAGE OF PLANNING AND GAVE US SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT WE HAVE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION.
AND, UH, GARRETT HAS ALREADY LOOKED AT THE PRESENTATION AND HE MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER SOME OF THE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS THAT MIGHT COME UP.
SO AT THE, WITH THAT, WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO ED.
I GOTTA, I GOTTA TALK SOME MORE.
HAD THE, UH, PRESENTATION, I KNOW YOU EMAILED ME SOMETHING FAIRLY RECENTLY.
DO YOU WANT ME TO GO UPSTAIRS AND SHARE SCREEN IS OR IS IT A DIFFERENT PRESENTATION? NO, IT'S THE SAME.
AND, UH, YOU JUST DIRECT ME WHAT PAGE YOU WANT TO BE ON.
YEAH, JUST IT RAN AT THE VERY END.
OKAY, WELL NOW IT'S INSTALLING SO IT GATHERS, IT'S GOING PRETTY FAST NOW.
WELL, I'LL SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN YOU'RE, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INCREASING THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FROM 131.
WHAT, WHAT ARE YOU BASICALLY LOOKING AT? WELL, THE END, THE PRESENTATION I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT, UM, WHAT WAS 190, CLOSE TO 200.
UM, TO WHAT, UM, THE CHAIRPERSON WAS ADDING.
I JUST WANT LIKE, GIVE AN UPDATE ON, UH, THE GREENBERG
CAN YOU GUYS INTRODUCE YOURSELVES? 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU STARTED TALKING.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOUR FAMILY, BUT WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE KNOWS WHO'S WATCHING.
WHO'S WHO, PLEASE? ROGER ABRAHAM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY.
UM, I WANT TO ADD TO WHAT, UH, THE CHAIRPERSON WAS MENTIONING ABOUT, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
ABOUT GOOD WORDS YOU HAD FOR MANHATTAN AVENUE.
UH, WE JUST WAITING FOR CONNET TO PUMP, UM, SUPPLIES WITH POWER AND THE DE, UH, DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO SIGN OFF ON THE PERMITS FOR THE SEWER.
ONCE THOSE, THOSE THINGS ARE THROUGH, HOPEFULLY WE ARE, WE ARE HOPING THAT BY NOVEMBER AT LEAST WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO BRING BACK OUR SENIORS THERE.
WE HAVE ALMOST 83 FAMILIES WHO ARE, WHO CAME BACK TO THE, UM, TO THE, TO THE UNITS.
THERE THREE MORE FAMILY, 82 HAVE COME BACK, THREE MORE FAMILIES ARE GOING TO BE, YOU KNOW, SIGNING THEIR LEASE.
AND OTHER THAN FOR THE PLAYGROUNDS AND LANDSCAPING, ALL THE SITES ARE DONE, YOU KNOW, SO I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT FROM THE, ON THESE TWO PROJECTS.
UH, LIKE THE BISHOP, LIKE THE CHAIRPERSON WAS MENTIONING, UM, GAR SET IT UP THERE.
I JUST HAD TO, I'M, I APOLOGIZE.
AND TO GO ALONG WITH THAT, THE 80, THERE WAS 85 SCATTERED SITE UNITS AND 8 82 OF THOSE ARE FILLED, AND WE GOT APPLICATIONS THAT WE'RE PROCESSING FOR OTHER THREE UNITS.
THAT'S, UH, ALSO BEFORE WE GET INTO PRESENTATION, I THINK IT'D BE GOOD INFORMATION.
UM, WE DID ACQUIRE A GRANT FOR THE STATE SITE MM-HMM.
AND THAT'S A BROADBAND MM-HMM.
AND WE'LL BE, UH, WE'LL BE GETTING GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU TO, TO COME AND LOOK AT A PRESENTATION OF HOW THAT WORKS.
THAT'S GONNA HELP US WITH COMMUNICATING WITH THE FAMILIES, UM, GETTING INFORMATION DIRECTED TO THE FAMILIES WITHOUT WALKING THE PROPERTIES AND ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A VERY UNIQUE, UM, PIECE OF WORK.
I THINK IT'S ABOUT THE FIRST IN THE STATE OR, AND CLOSE THE FIRST IN THE COUNTRY.
SO WE ARE SETTING THE PACE FOR, FOR TECHNOLOGY AND, AND DOING THAT.
SO I THINK YOU'D BE REALLY HAPPY TO SEE THAT.
AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY STILL HAS VERY HIGH RATINGS FROM THE INDEPENDENT RATINGS THAT YOU'VE HAD IN THE PAST? YES.
HOUSING, HOUSING
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UM, SUFFICIENT? HAVE THEY BEEN WORKING NOW THAT YOU'VE GOT THE CONNECTIVITY FOR FREE? IS THAT, BUT NONETHELESS, ARE PEOPLE ACCESSING IT AND IS IT STAYING? IS IT STABLE? AND, YOU KNOW, THE, UH, CONSULTING ASSURED US THAT THERE'S ENOUGH BANDWIDTH TO, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT WOULD BE USING, UH, MORE THAN THE BANDWIDTH.JUST THE, THE TRANSMISSION TYPE IN TERMS OF THE, UM, THE HOW, UM, IT'S POWERED, WHETHER IT'S COPPER CABLE OR WHETHER IT'S, OH NO, THIS BASICALLY WE HAVE A, WE, WE HAVE A, A HEAD, A, A CENTER THAT THE GNA COMES INTO AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS DONE.
UM, WIRELESS, IT'S A, IT'S, IT'S A WIRELESS UNIT, SO BE LESS INTERFERENCE WITH THAT.
COULD YOU, WHEN YOU'RE GOING THROUGH YOUR PRESENTATION, I HAD MENTIONED THIS WITH THE SENIOR HOUSING, UM, IS THAT IN THE SEVENTIES OR SO? THERE WAS A MOVEMENT TOWARDS SCATTERED SITE HOUSING, WHICH SEEMED TO BE A SUCCESS.
UH, WHEN YOU REDID SCATTERED SITE HOUSING, YOU REFURBISHED THEM, BUT YOU DIDN'T TRY TO INCREASE THE NUMBERS SPREAD OUT.
UH, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE DOING THE OPPOSITE NOW.
WHEN WE DID THE SENIOR HOUSING, I QUESTIONED WE'RE PUTTING MORE LOW-INCOME HOUSING IN ONE PARTICULAR AREA.
IT'S FOR SENIORS AND IT'S RIGHT NEXT TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
YOU CAN'T GET A BETTER PLACE FOR SENIORS.
BUT NOW IT SEEMS LIKE YOU ALSO WANT TO SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASE THE NUMBER OF LOW-INCOME HOUSING IN A PARTICULAR AREA OF THE TOWN.
WHY IS THAT? AS OPPOSED TO THE CONCEPT THAT WE HAD IN THE SEVENTIES? WELL, DON'T WE NEED MORE HOUSING, PAUL? WELL, I'M ASKING NOW.
WELL, UH, WE, WE CONSIDERED THAT, UH, AND WE HAVE EVEN LOOKED AT OTHER, OTHER PARCELS OF LAND THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DEVELOP AND THAT TOUGH TO FIND LAND TO, TO DEVELOP ANY KIND OF, UM, AFFORDABLE OR LOW INCOME HOUSING.
UM, AND, AND SO WE WENT BACK TO, UM, THE CONCEPT OF INCREASING DENSITY, UM, BECAUSE OF THE GREAT NEED.
UM, WHEN, UH, FOR INSTANCE, THE, UM, SENIOR COMPLEX, WHEN WE OPENED THE, UH, WAITING LIST FOR THAT APPLICATION PROCESS FOR THAT FOR 70 UNITS, WE GOT OVER 300 APPLICATIONS, LIKE WITHIN SO MANY HOURS.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A GREAT NEED FOR HOUSING EVEN IN THIS AREA.
UM, AND WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT THAT FAIRVIEW CARRIES A LOT OF THE LOW INCOME HOUSING.
UM, BUT, UM, I, I THINK THE NEED AND THE UPGRADE THAT'S NEEDED BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE STATE SITE WHERE THE 131 UNITS IS SO DELIBERATED UNTIL IT'S GETTING ALMOST, UM, IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE, EFFECTIVE TO TRY TO RESTORE THE, THE, UH, UNDERGROUND, UH, SERVICES AND, AND, UM, THE INFRASTRUCTURE JUST, IT'S JUST TOO BAD AT THE, WHEN WE TRY TO PATCH ONE PLACE SOMETHING, IT PUTS PRESSURE ON ANOTHER SPOT.
AND SO IF WE GOING TO DO A, UM, DO CONSTRUCTION, WE WANT TO TAKE THE OP LIKE TO TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO INCREASE DENSITY BECAUSE WE HAVE PROBABLY, WHAT, THREE, PROBABLY 600 PEOPLE ON THE WAITING LIST NOW.
RIGHT NOW ON OUR PUBLIC HOUSING WAITING LIST, WE HAVE 157 TO BE PRECISE.
AND ACTUALLY WHEN WE OPENED UP THE GREENBERG HEIGHTS WAITING LIST, UH, WHICH CLOSES ON OCTOBER 26TH, WE HAVE MORE THAN 350 APPLICATIONS.
SO THAT IS, UH, ON THE HEIGHTS ALONE FOR FAMILY SITES.
AND AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, FOR THE 71 BEDROOM UNITS, WE HAD MORE THAN 400 APPLICATIONS.
UH, WHAT I'M STATING IS WHY DO THEY ALL HAVE TO BE IN ONE AREA OF THE TOWN? IT'S A FURTHER IMPACT ON THE FAIRVIEW FIRE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE VERY LITTLE TAXES PAID ON THESE, JUST LIKE ON THE OTHER SITES, AND THEY'RE ALL IN THE FAIRVIEW FIRE DEPARTMENT FOR JUST AS ONE EXAMPLE.
WHEREAS IN THE PAST, THE SITES WERE SPREAD OUT, MADE IT MORE NEIGHBORLY THROUGHOUT, THROUGHOUT THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
BUT NOW THE RECENT TREND IS, UM, IN CLUSTER, IN ONE AREA.
AND THEN AFTER THEY'RE BUILT, THE BOARD IS GONNA HEAR WHY ARE YOU PUTTING ALL THE LOW INCOME IN ONE AREA? I'M ASKING IN ADVANCE AS TO WHAT IS THE LOGIC OF THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY FOR NOT WHEN YOU WERE REFURBISHING THE OTHER BUILDINGS IN OTHER AREAS TO MAKE INCREASES THERE AND TAKE PEOPLE OFF THE WAITING LIST AND PUT 'EM IN THOSE OTHER SITES AS OPPOSED TO CLUSTERING IN ONE AREA.
I, I, I'D, I'D, I'D LIKE, I APPRECIATE THE LOGIC AS TO WHAT GOES BEHIND THAT.
SO ISN'T IT THE CASE THAT THE SITES WE'RE HERE
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TO DISCUSS TODAY ARE THE ORIGINAL SITES MM-HMM.SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THOSE SITES IS CONSIDERABLY OLDER THAN THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE SCATTERED SITES THAT HAVE RECENTLY BEEN RENOVATED.
IS THAT THE CASE? I THINK YEAH.
THEY, THEY HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE HAD DONE SOME, UH, I WOULD SAY BANDAID RENOVATIONS IN THE EARLY 2008 OR 2000.
SO THE SITES YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RENOVATING TONIGHT.
RIGHT? SO, BUT THE, THE ANSWER TO THE ANSWER TO MY QUESTION IS, OR OR I'LL, I'LL ASK MY QUESTION AGAIN.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE SITES WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY IS CONSIDERABLY OLDER THAN THAT OF THE SCATTERED SITES THAT WERE RECENTLY RENOVATED, RIGHT? YES.
SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING TODAY IS BASICALLY A COMPLETE TEAR DOWN AND REBUILD RATHER THAN A REFURBISHMENT.
AND SO THE THOUGHT PROCESS BEHIND INCREASING THE DENSITY HERE IS SINCE YOU HAVE TO TEAR IT ALL DOWN AND REBUILD IT, WHY NOT INCREASE THE DENSITY VERSUS THE SCATTER SITES WHERE YOU WERE JUST DOING YOUR FACELIFT? IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
DOES THAT ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION? NO.
SO WE HAVE, THE SCATTER SITES WERE BUILT IN THE EARLY SEVENTIES, CORRECT? I THINK IT WAS CORRECT, YES.
THEY'RE ABOUT 50 SOMETHING YEARS OLD.
WHAT IS THEIR USEFUL LIFE? MOST BUILDINGS DON'T HAVE A USEFUL LIFE MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
SO GETTING TO THE COUNSELORS, UH, POINT, IF YOU'RE PUTTING MAJOR RENOVATIONS INTO BUILDINGS THAT ARE MORE THAN 50 YEARS OLD, HOW OLD IS THE ORIGINAL BUILDING? WHEN WERE THEY BUILT? FIFTIES.
I THINK THEY'RE CLOSE TO 60 YEARS OLD.
SO IT'S CONSIDERABLY OLDER THAN THE, SO IT'S 53 VERSUS 60.
I I STILL, I'M QUESTIONING WHY NOT EXPAND THOSE AT THE SAME TIME? 'CAUSE BASICALLY YOU'RE BUYING YOURSELF ANOTHER 10 OR 15 YEARS.
NO, WELL, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND, UH, UH, MR. UH, SHE, AND THAT IN THE, UH, RENOVATION OF THE SCATTERED SITES, WE DID IN THE INTERIOR FROM, FROM THE HOOKUP TO THE TOWN THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY, WE DID INSTALL, UH, NEW INFRASTRUCTURE BECAUSE THAT, THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WAS BAD.
ALSO, I REMEMBER AT, UH, UH, NORTH WASHINGTON, WE HAD TO PUT A TEMPORARY POWER LINE DOWN BECAUSE THE ELECTRIC ELECTRIC GRID WAS SO BAD UNDERGROUND.
WE HAD TO PUT A TEMPORARY POWER LINE IN AND, AND REBUILD THAT ELECTRIC UNDERGROUND LINE.
UH, BUT WE DID PUT IN NEW, UH, SEWER LINES, NEW, UH, WATER LINES IN THE INTERIOR OF, OF ALL THOSE BUILDINGS.
AND SO, SO THAT INFRASTRUCTURE IS, IS NEW.
UM, WE, ON, ON THE RENOVATION OF THOSE PROPERTIES, WE TORE THOSE DOWN ALL THE WAY TO THE STUDS.
SOME OF THE STUDS HAD TO BE REPLACED, BUT THE STUDS WAS THE ONLY THING LEFT.
EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE BUILDING IS NEW.
THE STUDS AND THE, AND THE, THE FOUNDATION WERE ONLY ON THE THINGS THAT WAS, UM, NOT DIS, NOT DIS UH, MAJORLY DISTURBED.
AND, AND, UM, THE SITE ON, UM, OT TERRYTOWN ROAD, WE HAD TO GO BACK AND DO SOME OF THE RE HAD TO RECONSTRUCT SOME OF THE FOUNDATION BECAUSE OF SOME DETERIORATION.
AND THOSE, WE, AND THOSE THINGS YOU WOULDN'T, WAS NOT ABLE TO SEE UNTIL YOU GOT INTO THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS.
BUT, UH, I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS WHY NOT, UH, DO THE, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, THERE VERSUS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT STATE WITH POTENTIAL EXPANSION? YEAH.
AND OR NEW SITES OR, OR INSTEAD OF CLUSTERING, IT'S JUST A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PHILOSOPHY IT SEEMS THAN THE SCATTERED SITES, UH, PHILOSOPHY IN THE SEVENTIES AND, WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE, UH, THE SCATTERED SITES, THE PROPERTY, THE, UH, PARCEL OF PROPERTY IS MUCH SMALLER THAN THE STATE SITE.
AND IT WOULD BE MORE DIFFICULT, I THINK, TO, TO LOOK AT EXPANDING UNLESS WE WENT UP FOUR OR FIVE STORIES.
AND I DON'T THINK THE TOWN IS
UM, AND, AND EVEN WITH THE STATE SITE, WE'LL, WE WILL BE LOOKING AT, TO EXPAND THE PROPERTY, UH, TO EXPAND THE DENSITY, WE, WE WILL BE ASKING FOR A, UH, CODE CHANGE.
LIKE WE DID AT MANHATTAN AVENUE TO ACCOMMODATE MORE DENSITY.
SO WEIGHING APPLES AGAINST SAMPLES, IT JUST LOOKED MORE FEASIBLE TO DO IT AT, FROM WHAT WE, IN OUR PRELIMINARY, UH, STUDY, IT LOOKED MORE FEASIBLE TO DO IT AT THE STATE SITE.
AND BASICALLY, WE KNOW JUST FROM READING THE PAPER AND HEARING THE GOVERNOR, THERE IS A SEVERE HOUSING SHORTAGE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING SHORTAGE IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
AND THE ENTIRE STATE, YOU KNOW, THE NEW YORK TIMES DID A COVER STORY ON THE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
SO I THINK IT'S VERY COMMENDABLE THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS ACTUALLY LOOKING TO INCREASE THE
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DENSITY, PROVIDE, UM, MORE RESIDENTS, UM, WHO NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING WITH QUALITY NEW, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS DESPERATELY NEEDED UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN I LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'VE DONE WITH THE MANHATTAN AVENUE CONFLICTS, YOU'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE UPGRADING PEOPLE'S QUALITY OF LIFE AND, UM, THE LAND, YOU KNOW, IT'S LARGE ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE 200 UNITS.
SO I, I AM LIKE EXTREMELY ENTHUSIASTIC.
YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS 250 UNITS, I'D BE ENTHUSIASTIC ALSO EVEN MORE ENTHUSIASTIC BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TALK ALL WE WANT ABOUT THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT, YOU KNOW, HERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACTUALLY GET SOMETHING DONE.
UM, AND, UM, IF WE START FIGURING OUT REASONS WHY WE'RE NOT GONNA LET THEM DO IT, WE'RE NEVER GONNA MAKE A DENT IN, IN TERMS OF ADDRESSING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS.
NOW, THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T LOOK FOR OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AROUND THE TOWN, BUT, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO YOU, THE BISHOP, UM, AND RAJU ABOUT THIS SITE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I'M LIKE, I, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS EXTREMELY, UM, YOU KNOW, EXTREMELY COMMENDABLE.
UM, AND, AND I DON'T, I I, I AGREE THAT WE SHOULDN'T BE FORESTALLING THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK ANYONE WOULD, WAS SUGGESTING, I DON'T THINK THAT THE COUNCILMAN WAS SUGGESTING THAT WE DON'T DO THAT, BUT ALSO THAT WE THINK OUT OF THE BOX GOING FORWARD, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ADAPTIVE REUSE OF SOME, SOME COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES, UM, AND EXPAND THE AREAS AND EXPAND THE AREAS OF WHERE, AND EXPAND THE AREA WHERE WE HAVE LOW INCOME HAS AND WHAT, INSTEAD OF CLUSTERING, AND THAT WAS THE WORD THAT COUNCILMAN, SHE MENTIONED THE WORD CLUSTERING.
WE HAVING, HAVING LOW, LOW INCOME HOUSING IN ONE AREA.
I THINK THEY GOT IT AND NOT YEAH, WE, WE HAVE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE BECAUSE I DON'T, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND.
AND IT'S NOT OUR INTENT TO OVERSATURATE THE FAIRVIEW AREA WITH, WITH LOW INCOME HOUSING.
WE, WE WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF AN OPPORTUNITY HERE THAT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THERE IF WE CONTINUE TO WAIT, UH, TOO LONG.
AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ACCESSORY DEVELOPMENT.
IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS, THAT'S WHY I, IN MY, UH, OPENING STATEMENT, IF YOU HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS OF HOW WE CAN EXPAND IN OTHER AREAS, BECAUSE WE, UH, LET, LET'S BE FRANK, WE HAVE RUN INTO A GREAT RESISTANCE IN OTHER AREAS TRYING TO PUT AFFORDABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UH, IN, IN CERTAIN AREAS OF OUR TOWN.
AND SO WHEN WE DID THE, UH, SCATTERED SITES, WE, WE CONSIDERED THAT BECAUSE, UH, SOME AREAS JUST, IT'S JUST RESISTANT TO LOW INCOME HOUSING OR AFFORDABLE HOUSING, REGARDLESS TO HOW IT LOOKS OR HOW IT BUILDS UP THE COMMUNITY.
UH, AND PAUL SAID IT MAKES, UH, IT BUILDS UP THE LIVING FOR THE, FOR THE RESIDENTS.
IT, IT ALSO, WHAT WE ARE DOING ALSO BUILDS UP THE, THE PROFILE OF THE TOWN.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT MANHATTAN AVENUE, IT DON'T LOOK LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
IT, IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD BE GETTING $4,000 A MONTH FOR RENT FOR.
BUT, BUT, BUT WE HAD THIS OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK WE, UH, WE, WE JUST WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
AND, AND TO CLARIFY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN WESTCHESTER IS NOT INEXPENSIVE.
UM, EVEN IF, IF YOU'RE GOING TO 40 OR 60% ABSOLUTELY.
SO, AND THAT'S WHY WE FOCUS ON LOW INCOME.
WE WANT TO MAINTAIN LOW INCOME HOUSING BECAUSE THERE IS THE GREATER NEED TO BE.
AND, AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S YEAH.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE NEED SUBSIDIES.
FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY PERSPECTIVE, THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO MAINTAIN.
BUT YOU KNOW, GARY, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, UM, UM, YOU SCHWARTZ AND UH, UH, AND WALTER, SIMON AND JOHAN SACKS MET WITH THE TOWN BOARD, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT THE ACCESSORY DEVELOPMENT UNITS.
SO THIS IS REALLY PART OF A LARGER PACKAGE THAT WILL CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.
SO THIS BY ITSELF, YOU KNOW, WON'T SOLVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IT WILL CONTRIBUTE TO, TO MAKING A DENT IF WE DO THE ACCESSORY DEVELOPMENT UNITS.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT DWELLING, DWELLING, DWELLING UNITS.
DWELLING DWELLING UNITS, UH, YEAH, I'M SORRY.
UH, THAT IS SPREAD OUT ALL OVER THE TOWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT ALSO CREATES AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.
SO IF WE COULD GET THAT, IT'S NOT QUITE THE SAME IN TERMS OF CONFLATING IT, BUT IT CERTAINLY, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WILL, IT'S ADDRESS.
I'M NOT CONTRADICTING YOU PER SE, IT'S JUST CLARIFYING FOR PEOPLE LISTENING, WHAT ADUS CAN PROVIDE SOME SMALL, UM, ADJUNCT HOUSING TO, UM, HOMEOWNERS, EXISTING HOMEOWNERS TO, FOR
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MAYBE ADDITIONAL INCOME.AND IT DOES PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ANCE, BUT THERE ARE LIMITATIONS ON THE SIZE OF THOSE.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR PRESENTATION AND THEN BE ABLE TO
AND BEFORE, BEFORE WE'RE STILL ON THE FIRST SLIDE,
LET, LET ME UH, SAY THIS BEFORE ED STARTS AND, AND IT IS OUR PLAN FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO EXPAND ITS FOOTPRINT AND, UH, BUILD ON OTHER PROPERTIES.
IF THE OPPORTUNITY, WITH THE EXPERIENCE THAT WE ARE GETTING AND, AND WITH THE RATING THAT WE HAVE WITH THAT EXPERIENCE, WE, WE WILL BE HAVING A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT MOVING FORWARD.
BUT, UH, BECAUSE WE, UH, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE, UM, THAT WE INCURRED WITH MANHATTAN AVENUE, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO INCUR WITH THE S SCATTER SITES BECAUSE OF THE EXPERIENCE OF GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND SO, SO THE MORE EXPERIENCE WE HAVE, WE MAY NOT HAVE TO HAVE SO MANY CONSULTANTS.
WE CAN BE A, BE OUR OWN DEVELOPER AND THAT, THAT WAY WE CAN, UH, DO MORE WITH THE FUNDING THAT WE GET FOR AFFORDABLE.
BUT THERE'S ALSO A CONCERN TOO, THAT THIS IS SUBSIDIES THAT WE PUT, THERE'S ALSO A CONCERN TOO, THAT THE SUBSIDIES THAT WE PUT IN PLACE, THERE'S A HARDSHIP WILL, BECOMES A HARDSHIP ON THE TAXPAYERS IN THE AREA.
SO THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY THE QUESTION KEEPS COMING UP.
AND YOU AND I HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION BEFORE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GREAT THAT WE ARE EXPANDING AND I WANT TO EXPAND BECAUSE WE DEFINITELY NEED, UM, THE HOUSING OPPORTUNITY.
BUT I DO GET CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT THE HARDSHIP IT PUTS ON OUR TAXPAYERS.
SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THE SERVICE PROVIDERS, IT, IT PUTS A GREATER MM-HMM.
SHALL WE BEGIN?
HI, MY NAME IS ED VOGEL, UM, PRINCIPAL AT WASHAU ZI WASHAU ARCHITECTS.
AS IT WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, WE'VE BEEN CONSULTING WITH THE GREENBERG HOUSING AUTHORITY ON WHAT THE POTENTIAL IS FOR THEIR STATE SITE.
UM, AND I'M GLAD GARRETT IS IN THE HOT SEAT, UM MM-HMM.
AND SO WHAT WE, UM, YOU CAN LOOK AT THE SCREENS AROUND THE ROOM.
OUR FIRST SLIDE IS JUST TO HELP, UH, LOCATE AND ORIENT YOU TO WHERE THE PROJECT I SITE IS.
UM, YOU CAN SEE IN HERE, 2 87 IS BEING A MADE RIGHT.
THE SITE IS WHERE THE HAND IS.
UM, IT'S MARKED IN THE YELLOW HIGHLIGHTER.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THIS FROM THIS GOOGLE AERIAL, UM, HOW THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, UM, HAVE EVOLVED AND DEVELOPED MM-HMM.
UM, THE YELLOW INDICATES AREAS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, THE RED AREAS ARE MARKET RATE MULTIFAMILY AND THE GREEN ARE SOME, UM, GREEN PARK SPACES.
UM, SO, UM, WE ARE BOUND FROM TO THE SOUTH WITH 2 87.
UM, WE'RE BOUND, UM, FROM OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD TO THE NORTH AND THEN TO THE WEST.
WE HAVE MAPLE AVENUE AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE.
UM, AND WE HAVE ACCESS FROM MAPLE BEACH AND OAK STREETS.
AND THEN TO OUR EAST, THERE IS A WATERCOURSE AND A STREAM THAT RUNS THROUGH THAT WOODED AREA ON THE GOOGLE IMAGE.
SO SEEING, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOODS HERE.
OUR NEXT SLIDE IS, UH, THE ZONING MAP.
AND THE ZONING MAP IS, IS AS IT IS TODAY, HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW, IS THE PROJECT SITE.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE AN URBAN REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
WE HAVE AN OFFICE BUSINESS AREA.
WE HAVE ANOTHER MULTIFAMILY M 10 IN THE AREA.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO R FIVE SINGLE FAMILY, WHICH IS IMMEDIATELY TO OUR WEST, BUT THAT'S WITH LIMITED MULTIFAMILY INVOLVED.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF 2 87, THERE'S ANOTHER R FIVE ZONE, WHICH IS LIMITED TO FAMILY.
UM, SO THOSE ARE MORE OR LESS THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN AND AROUND THE PROJECT SITE AT THE CORNER.
UM, IF WE MOVE TO THE NEXT SLIDE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU HERE WHAT THE EXISTING SITE LOOKS LIKE.
SO THE SITE HERE, UM, IS, WE MENTIONED IT'S NOW ROTATED.
AND YOU CAN SEE WRITTEN, THERE IS OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD TO THE SOUTH IS 2 87.
YOU CAN START TO SEE THE HIGHWAY AND THERE IS A SOUND BARRIER.
UM, TO THE WEST IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, IT WOULD ACCESS FROM OAK BEACH AND MAPLE AVENUE.
AND THEN TO THE EAST IS THAT WATERCOURSE BROOK, UM, THAT RESIDES IN THE WOODED AREA, DRAINING THE AR THE AREAS TO THE NORTH.
AND IT TAKES IT UNDERNEATH 2 87
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AND THEN CONTINUES ON ITS WAY.UM, THERE ARE 131 UNITS HERE PRESENTLY, AND AS I MENTIONED, IT'S THE M UM, 14 ZONE.
UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT IN HERE IS CONNECTIVITY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE LOOKED AT GAINING SITE ACCESS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, THE WATERCOURSE AND ITS BUFFER WITH THE EMBANKMENT.
AND THEN WE HAVE SOME ZONING SETBACKS.
UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO IS ADDRESS SOME OF THE, UM, THOSE ARE THE SITE INFLUENCES THAT WE HAVE IN THE DESIGN.
THE VISION FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UM, FOR THE SITE IS TO, AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU CAN SEE HOW WE'VE TAKEN THAT EXISTING NETWORK OF ROADS.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS VEHICULAR CIRCULATION.
AND VEHICULAR CIRCULATION MAKES THE SITE MORE ACCESSIBLE.
IT'S MORE DEFENSIBLE, IT'S EASIER FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES TO COME IN AND AROUND THE AREA.
UM, INCREASED PARKING, PARKING IN THE ORIGINAL SITE, UM, IS ABOUT THREE QUARTERS OF A SPACE PER UNIT.
UM, HERE WE'RE 1.25 SPACES PER UNIT.
SO OVERALL IT'S AN IMPROVEMENT FOR THE ENTIRE SITE.
UM, WE ALSO WANT TO INCREASE DENSITY.
SO OUR DWELLING TYPOLOGY NEEDED TO CHANGE.
IT CHANGED FROM BEING, UM, GARDEN APARTMENT STYLES TO HERE BEING AN APARTMENT BUILDING STYLE WITH BEING ELEVATED.
UM, WE'VE MAINTAINED THE STREET SCAPE ALONG OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD, WHICH IS ACTUALLY A VERY BEAUTIFUL PART OF VOL.
TERRYTOWN ROAD IS A STREET, STREET SCAPE WITH THE SIDEWALK REMOVED OFF OF THE ROAD AND THE, THE LARGER SHADING TREES THAT ARE THERE.
UM, WE'VE PROVIDED OPEN SPACE AND BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS FOR BOTH ACTIVE AND PASSIVE RECREATION, UM, WE'VE ALSO PROVIDED A COMMUNITY SPACE, UM, WHICH THEY HAVE TODAY.
THAT'S ALSO TUCKED INTO WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING BUILDING FIVE, THE ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICES MAINTENANCE.
UM, SO THAT'S THE VISION THAT THEY'VE HAD AND HOW WE'VE COME UP WITH A SOLUTION TO GET THE ADDED DENSITY.
THERE WOULD BE A ZONE, UH, CHANGE RIGHT FROM THE M 14 TO THE M 22.
M 22 AFFORDS US, UH, A HIGHER DENSITY.
AND WITH THE BONUS, IT WOULD END UP BEING ROUGHLY 190 UNITS.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS CONTEMPLATING HERE, 190 AS OPPOSED TO WHAT IS EXISTING NOW.
UH, THE OTHER MISSION THAT WE HAVE IN THIS IS, IF WE GO TO THE LAST SLIDE, UH, CAN, CAN WE STICK TO THIS A SECOND? CAN I ASK QUESTIONS OR DO YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR PRESENTATION? DO YOU WANT ME JUST FINISHED? YEAH, JUST ONE MORE POINT AND THEN WE CAN SCROLL BACK, I'M SURE.
UM, SO, AND HERE ONE OF THE OTHER MISSIONS THAT WE HAVE IS TO, UH, NO RESIDENT IS GOING TO BE DISPLACED FROM THE PROJECT.
SO THAT CREATES A PHASING, UM, RIGHT PROPOSAL HERE.
AND THE WAY IT'S, YOU CAN SEE THE GRAY BUILDINGS OR THE EXISTING ONES, AND THEN THE TAN BUILDINGS BECOME THE NEW BUILDINGS.
UM, AND IT WOULD THEN BE PHASED IN A MANNER THAT MAINTAINS THE HEATING PLANT IN THE CENTER.
SO THIS IS A BIT ABOUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE INFRASTRUCTURE HERE IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN THE SCATTERED SITES.
SO HERE, THERE'S A CENTRAL PLANT THAT WILL DISTRIBUTE NOT ONLY HEAT, UM, AND HOT WATER AND COLD WATER, BUT THERE'S ALSO ELECTRIC.
SO ALL OF THAT COMES OUT OF THE CENTRAL BUILDING, WHICH IS ANNOTATED RIGHT NOW, AND THE HAND IS OVER IT.
UM, AND IT DOES TWO LOOPS THROUGH THE SITE.
SO AS WE STARTED TO PHASE THE PROJECT, THE IDEA HERE IS THAT PHASE ONE WOULD BE ALL THE WAY OVER TO THE LEFT OF THE SHEET.
UM, BUILDING NUMBER ONE AS WE'VE JUST IDENTIFIED IT.
UM, AND THIS BUILDING WOULD HAVE ENOUGH UNITS TO HOUSE THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS PLUS TWO MORE.
SO OUR, OUR TEMPORARY RELOCATION JUST BECOMES THOSE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS THAT ARE OVERLAPPING THERE.
UM, ONCE THAT BUILDING IS UP, WHICH IS PROPOSED TO BE FOUR STORIES, UM, WE CAN THEN JUST HAVE ONE MOVE FOR THE RESIDENCE THROUGH THE REMAINDER OF THE SITE.
UM, SO THE PROJECT WOULD BE PHASED OVER MULTIPLE YEARS.
AS ONE BUILDING COMES ONLINE, YOU MOVE PEOPLE IN THE NEXT BUILDING'S, THEN VACANT, YOU CAN TAKE THAT DOWN AND BRING UP THE NEXT BUILDING.
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SO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A POINT, BECAUSE THAT COMES INTO PLAY WITH SOME OF THE REQUESTS, NOT ONLY WITH THE M 22 ZONE.AND THEY DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT IN WHITE PLAINS, RIGHT? YES.
THEY'RE STILL ONGOING, CORRECT? MM-HMM.
UM, SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS.
NUMBER ONE, UM, YOU'RE SHOWING A GREAT DEAL, MORE OF CONCRETE, WHICH, YOU KNOW, UM, BUILD THE PARKING LOT, AND THEN YOU'VE GOT MORE FLOODING AND YOU'VE GOT THE BROOK RIGHT THERE.
SO I'M ASSUMING YOU'RE FACTORING IN, UM, DRAINAGE AND SO FORTH, BUT I LIKE TO HAVE ASSURANCES THAT THAT'S THE CASE.
THAT WILL BE, WE WILL FLUSH OUT ALL THAT ENGINEERING AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
UM, WE ARE STILL UNDER THE TOTAL SITE IMPERVIOUS THAT THE M 22 ZONE WOULD PERMIT, UM, FOR THE SITE AS WE SEE IT.
UM, AND, UM, I'D LOVE TO HAVE SOME REDUNDANCY THERE THOUGH.
UM, DOES THE ELIGIBILITY CHANGE THE PARAMETERS FOR ELIGIBILITY CHANGE? YOU KNOW, THE, OR IS IT THE SAME AS, WOULD IT REMAIN THE SAME AT, AT THIS TIME? WE ARE TRYING TO MAINTAIN IT THAT'S LOW INCOME TIME OR LOW INCOME HOUSING SO THAT THE ELIG ELIGIBILITY WILL PROPERLY REMAIN THE SAME UNLESS WE SEE A WAY TO, UH, DO MIXED INCOME.
WE, BUT WE ARE NOT, AT THAT POINT, AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME, WE'RE LOOKING TO MAINTAIN LOW INCOME HOUSING.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT A LOT OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING NOW IS DOING.
UM, SO HOW ABOUT THE HEIGHT AS YOU, YOU SAID YOU'LL HAVE TO GO FOR NEW ZONING.
SO I, I'M, AND I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN PLACE, SO FORGIVE ME IN, IN TERMS OF HEIGHT, RE HOW MUCH HIGHER YOU'LL BE GOING AND IF, IF AT ALL.
AND HA AND WILL YOU BE APPLYING FOR, UM, VARIANCES IN ZONE, IN HEIGHT ZONE? YEAH, SO WITH THE M 22 ZONE, UM, THERE ARE A FEW PIECES THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AND WORK THROUGH.
UM, TO MAKE OUR PHASING CONCEPT WORK, WE LOOKED AT BUILDING NUMBER ONE AS FOUR STORIES, UM, BUILDINGS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
AS WE WORK OUR WAY, NORTHERLY ACROSS THE PROPERTY WOULD BE THREE.
SO ZONING ALLOWS THREE, UM, AND WITH A HEIGHT OF 38 FEET, WHICH WE'D BE MEETING BUILDING NUMBER FIVE, WHICH ALSO FRONTS ALONG OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD, THAT WOULD BECOME A TWO STORY BUILDING.
SO WE'RE BEING COGNIZANT WITH, UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEING TWO AND THREE STORIES FOR THE MAJORITY.
AND THEN THE FOUR STORY BUILDING WOULD BE CLOSER TOWARD 2 87.
I'VE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY,
SO THAT WOULD BE THE HEIGHT SEQUENCE AS WE SEE IT.
UM, BUILDING NUMBER TWO, JUST PRESENTATION.
AS YOU CAN SEE THERE ON THE ANNOTATION, THERE WOULD BE A PARTIAL BASEMENT, BUT THE BASEMENT IS NOT FOR UNITS.
IT WOULD BE FOR SUPPORT SERVICES FOR THE COMPLEX MAINTENANCE AND SOME STORAGE.
SO YOU, YOU MAY HAVE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
SO CURRENTLY THE MAKEUP OF THE APARTMENTS IS A DUPLEX, CORRECT.
UPSTAIRS, DOWNSTAIRS, I THE ONES CURRENTLY THE'RE.
MULTI-LEVEL, MULTI THE MULTI-LEVEL.
SO IS THAT GONNA BE THE SAME FOR AS, FOR THE ONES THAT YOU ARE EXPANDING AS YOU GO HIGH? IS THAT GONNA BE, THIS WOULD BE AN ELEVATED BUILDING THAT'S, I UNDERSTAND ONE EACH STORE, ONE LEVEL UNITS.
SO I THINK THAT ANSWER, UH, CLEARLY MORE CLEARLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
EVEN FOR THOSE THAT ARE LISTENING IN SOME OF THE, UH, APARTMENTS NOW YOU HAVE MULTI FLOORS IN THE, IN THE SAME APARTMENT.
WHAT WE ARE LOOKING AT NOW IS ONCE YOU'RE IN THAT APARTMENT, IT'S ALL ONE ON ONE LEVEL.
AND WITH THE RAISED BUILDING, THE QUESTION I HAD WAS ON THE OLD TARRYTOWN, UH, ROAD APARTMENTS, THE ONE THAT, YOU KNOW, SAM BALKANS, UH, YOU KNOW, BUILT THE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE PRETTY HIGH, YOU KNOW, THE ELEVATION IS HIGHER THAN, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS, YOU KNOW, COMPLEX.
I'M WONDERING HOW MANY STORIES, UH, YOU KNOW, THOSE BUILDINGS ARE, I THINK THERE, THERE, I THINK THE, WELL, BECAUSE BECAUSE I'M, I'M, I THINK THAT THIS IS GONNA STILL BE LOWER.
FROM, I THINK IF MY MIND SERVES ME CORRECTLY, UH, MR. FINER, UM, WITH MANHATTAN AVENUE, I THINK THE PERMIT PERMITTED LIKE THREE AND A HALF STORIES.
AND, AND WITH WHAT WE ARE ASKING IN THIS IS FOR THREE STORIES, FOR THREE BUILDINGS, FOR FOUR STORIES IN ONE BUILDING TO HELP US WITH THE, UM, MOVING, LIMITED MOVING.
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DON'T HAVE TO MOVE SO MANY PEOPLE OUT.YOU WON'T BE MOVING PEOPLE OUT.
AND THEN ONE, ONE BUILDING NUMBER, BUILDING NUMBER FIVE IS A TWO STORY BUILDING.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE IT OUT.
WE'RE IN, IT'S SOME, SOME EQUITY IN, IN THE, BUT, BUT I'M THINKING, I WAS BASICALLY SAYING THE OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD, YOU KNOW, APARTMENTS, THE HEIGHT, THE ELEVATION IS STILL HIGHER.
THREE STORIES ON THOSE APARTMENTS ACROSS THE STREET.
SO IT'S BASICALLY TOWN ROAD CONSISTENT.
IT IS PRETTY CONSISTENT WITH YES.
UH, WITH THE QUALITY OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST ONE OF THE UNITS WOULD HAVE, UH, FOUR STORIES, FOUR STORIES SPACE.
ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, ONE OF THE BUILDINGS, ONE BUILDING.
THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IS IF WE HAD THE ELEVATION OF EACH OF THESE ROOFS COMPARED TO SURROUNDING BUILDINGS, NOT SO MUCH WOULD BE, YEAH, WE CAN DO THAT SANDWICH PROPERTY, MAYBE INCLUDE THAT, BUT WHAT ARE THE SURROUNDING, UM, UM, AND WHEN YOU SAY YOU, YOU BUILT IN FRANCIS OPEN, WHEN YOU SAY YOU BUILT IN OPEN SPACE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, THEY'RE PARKING LOTS, RIGHT? WE DON'T REALLY COUNT, RIGHT? NO.
UM, IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE SITE, WE HAVE FOCUSED ON SOME REAR YARDS FOR ALL OF THEM.
AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE SOME FRONTAGE, LIKE FOR EXAMPLE, AT BUILDING NUMBER THREE AS WELL.
AND WE'VE LEFT THE OPEN SPACE FRONTING MAPLE AND OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD.
SO THE, I'M SORRY, YOU SAID BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS YOU HAD PROVIDED FOR OPEN SPACE, RIGHT? THE BROWN IS THE BUILDINGS.
WHAT'S THIS BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS? WELL, WE DO HAVE PARKING.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BETWEEN, BUT WE HAVE PROVIDED OPEN SPACE.
AND WHERE IS THAT? ALL THE GREEN THAT YOU SEE, THE LIGHT GREEN AND SOME OF THE DARK GREEN, BUT NOT BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS, YOU KNOW, TO THE MARKET.
THE PARKING LOT SEPARATES THE BUILDINGS, SO THEIR FINGERS.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOGIC OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD FROM OAK STREET TO BEACH AND TO MAPLE, THEIR EXTENSIONS COMING INTO THE SITE, RIGHT? THAT MAKES IT VERY LOGICAL, UM, ENTRY INTO THE AREA, UM, TREE LINED IN THE PARKING AREA.
AND WE'RE, WE ARE ADDRESSING SOME OF THOSE ITEMS. UM, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE ARRIVING RIGHT WHEN YOU SAID WE'RE PERMITTED TO HAVE, THAT'S ASSUMING YOU GET THE CODE CHANGE, CORRECT? THIS IS THE START OF, THIS IS THE ZONING CHANGE, RIGHT.
SO WHEN YOU WERE SAYING BEFORE WE CAN HAVE THREE STORIES, WE NEED A VARIANCE FOR FOUR, THAT'S EVEN IF YOU GET THE CODE CHANGE THE ZONING CHANGE.
NOW YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO THIS AT ALL, RIGHT? THE FOUR STORIES? NO, NO, NO.
THE, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE M 14 AND THE M 22, JUST AS AN UNDER, AS A BASE TO IT.
UM, HEIGHT IS BASICALLY THE SAME.
SETBACKS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME.
IT BECOMES A DENSITY QUESTION.
UM, I'M SORRY, FRANCIS, WERE YOU DONE? WELL, I'M, I, BECAUSE OF GETTING TO, UH, COUNCILMAN HENDRICK'S, UH, STATEMENT BEFORE FLOODING IS ALWAYS A CONCERN.
AND GENERALLY THESE THINGS ARE BUILT TO 25 YEAR STORMS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS DONE HISTORICALLY.
BUT FRANKLY, THAT JUST DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE.
UH, WHAT ARE YOU FACTORING IN? AND THE DEVELOPER WILL COME, I MEAN, THE, UM, THE CONTRACTOR WILL COME, THEY'LL BUILD, THEY'LL GO, AND THEN THE FIRST FLOOD COMES AND OUR PHONES RING.
WHAT, UH, WHO ARE YOU HIRING? SOMEBODY WHO IS GOING TO GIVE US SOME CONFIDENCE THAT, THAT THEY WILL NOT GET FLOODED? ARE YOU BUILDING IT SO THAT IT WILL BE, THERE'LL BE HIGH ENOUGH FOUNDATIONS AND SO FORTH, SO THIS WILL NOT FLOOD? YEAH, WE HAVEN'T, RIGHT.
AT THIS POINT, WE HAVEN'T ENGINEERED ANYTHING YET MM-HMM.
AND SO THERE IS INFILTRATORS, RIGHT? SO WE COLLECT THE WATER AND THEN IT GETS SLOWED DOWN.
AND THEN THROUGH INFANT, I'M SURE YOU'VE ALL THROUGH THE PLANNING PROCESS, SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THAT WILL ALL BE FLUSHED OUT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
UM, SO CRITERIA THROUGH THAT PROCESS WILL BE ESTABLISHED.
BUT, AND TO THAT POINT ALSO, A, A SUGGESTION IS TAKING UTILITIES AND NOT HAVING THEM IN THE BASEMENT, OR EVEN THE RAISING THE UTILITIES SO THAT THEY'RE NOT IMPACTED BY FLOODING.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, IF THERE IS FLOODING AND, UM, AND IN ADDITION, UM, I JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION.
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ARE THEY ELEVATOR BUILDINGS? ARE YOU PLANNING ON ELEVATOR BUILDINGS? YES, THEY'RE ELEVATED.SO YEAH, WHAT YOU TOUCHED ON BEFORE WAS RESILIENCY.
THAT'S ANOTHER TERM THAT'S BEEN SURFACING.
SO IN RESILIENCY, WE ARE PLANNING FOR, UM, UH, DISASTERS.
IT COULD BE WATER FLOODING, IT COULD BE ELECTRICAL POWER, IT COULD BE HEAT, IT COULD BE COOLING.
UM, THERE ARE MULTIPLE LEVELS OF RESILIENCY, UM, TO BE CONTEMPLATED WELL, TO, AND THAT'S CERTAINLY IN OUR THINKING, RIGHT? AND TO THAT POINT, UM, WHETHER IT'S ON THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES, HAVING SOLAR PANELS OR SOLAR PANELS IN THE PARKING, UH, HAVING GREEN ROOFS PERHAPS TO HELP AMELIORATE ANY FLOODING, COLLECTING WATER.
SO YEAH, I, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU'D IMPLEMENT THAT AND THEN KNEW, WELL, WE, WE GOT, WE HAVE A, UH, SO TO SPEAK, KICK THAT CAN DOWN THE STREET.
UH, AND WE DO LOOK AT ALL THOSE POSSIBILITIES.
AND THAT'S WHY KNOW, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE TODAY THAT THIS IS JUST A CONCEPT OF THE LAYOUT AND ALL OF THE ENGINEERING AND ALL THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE YET.
UM, LIKE WE DID AT MANHATTAN AVENUE, WE KNEW THAT MANHATTAN AVENUE WAS A, WAS A FLOOD ZONE.
SO WE RAISED THE PROPERTY ABOUT SEVEN FEET, AND WE PUT IN, UM, STORM, UH, RESISTORS THAT WHERE WATER CAN BE RETAINED AND THEN PUMPED OUT AT A LATER TIME.
SO, UH, AT LOOKING AND LOOKING AT THE, UM, AREA OF, OF THE, UM, STATE SITE, WE'D BE LOOKING AT ALL OF THOSE THINGS AS, AS PART OF THE ENGINEERING PROCESS.
AND, UH, AND WE, WHAT WE, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS MAKE THIS A LONGER, WE, WE WANT TO BUILD BUILDINGS THAT HAVE A LONGER THAN 50 YEAR LIFESPAN IF POSSIBLE.
AND PART OF THAT IS THE TYPE OF IN INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE TYPE OF, UM, SERVICES THAT YOU INCLUDE IN IT.
WE LEARNED OUR LESSON WITH, UH, WITH, UM, UH, MANHATTAN AVENUE, WHAT, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF IT, UH, THE, THE, EXCUSE ME, BEMAN COURT.
WE LEARNED OUR LESSON WITH BEMAN COURT, PUTTING UTILITIES IN THE BASEMENT.
WE HAD TO PULL THOSE OUT AND PUT 'EM ON TOP LEVEL.
JUST FOR US TO, I JUST HAD ONE, UM, FOLLOW UP QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE FLOODING.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY ON THIS IF YOU WANT, UM, IS, YOU KNOW, THE GOVERNOR, AS YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE STATE FUNDING FOR FLOOD REMEDIATION.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF WE REACH OUT TO, UM, UH, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE AND, UM, OUR STATE LAWMAKER, SENATOR COUSINS, UH, SOMEBODY, THE WOMAN, UH, SHAMSKY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS.
WE'RE GONNA BE INCREASING, UH, THE NUMBER OF UNITS FROM 131 TO ALMOST 200 UNITS.
UM, WE NEED, UM, STATE FUNDING, UM, SO WE COULD, UH, ADDRESS FLOODING FOR THE ENTIRE AREA.
THIS MAY BE REALLY A GREAT OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO GET, UH, ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, YOU KNOW, FUNDING THAT COULD HELP ALLEVIATE FLOODING THROUGHOUT THE AREA.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M LIKE SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS THAT I, THIS LIKE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I'LL BE ABLE TO FALL ASLEEP TONIGHT.
I'M, I THINK THIS IS LIKE, BECAUSE I, YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I THINK THIS IS REALLY, YOU KNOW, INCREDIBLE.
YOU KNOW, I WAS THINKING, UM, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS GOTTEN A LOT OF CRITICISM OVER, OVER THE YEARS, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM PEOPLE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS IS AN ACTION.
THIS IS GETTING RESULTS FOR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TALK ALL WE WANT ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THE NEED, AND YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING SOMETHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH YOU.
SO THIS COULD HAPPEN AS SOON AS, UM, AS POSSIBLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL TRY GETTING AS MUCH STATE AND FEDERAL FUNDING AS, YOU KNOW, AS AS POSSIBLE.
SO THIS STREAM COULD, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAPPEN QUICKLY.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR, UM, THE MANHATTAN AVENUE PROJECT, AND WE HAVE, MAYBE WE HAVE STATE AND FEDERAL LAWMAKERS THERE, WE SHOULD REALLY BE PUSHING TO SEE IF WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, THE FLOOD, UH, FLOOD GRANTS AS WELL TO BUILD ON WHAT THE SUPERVISOR SAID.
JUST IN, YOU KNOW, LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ONE AVENUE OF GETTING MONIES, BUT THERE'S ALSO ALL THE FEDERAL INFRASTRUCTURE MONEY THAT IS, IS AVAILABLE.
AND MAKING SURE TO MINE THAT FIELD AS WELL AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL BOND ACT, THE, THE OVER 4 BILLION, $4 BILLION GRANT THAT WE ALL VOTED FOR.
SO GRANTS THAT WE ALL VOTED FOR.
WELL, WE, WE WE'RE KEENLY AWARE OF ALL THOSE.
THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO COME TO YOU EARLY IN THE PROJECT PROCESS TO GET, GET MORE OF A, UM, A, A, WHAT I, I'LL JUST SAY A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TOWN AND HOUSING AUTHORITY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN FOR THE PEOPLE, BECAUSE
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WE WILL, WE KNOW THAT WE WILL NEED YOUR, YOUR SUPPORT GOING FORWARD WITH THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDING, STATE FUNDING THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE IF WE WORK TOGETHER, WE, IN, IN OUR, UH, PAST, WE KNOW THAT WE WORK TOGETHER MM-HMM.AND ONE OTHER FUNDING SOURCE, WHICH YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE AWARE OF, IS, IS COUNTING FUNDING BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAVE, UM, THEY HAVE A TRANCHE OF MONEY FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, AND THERE ARE, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF SOURCES, BUT YOU CAN CALL PLAN, YOU KNOW, GARRETT IS WELL AWARE AND CONNECTED ON THAT IN TERMS OF THE CALLING AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND GETTING SPECIFICS ON THAT.
WHEN YOU'RE READY, WHO, WHO OWNS THE, I'M SORRY, GENTLEMAN AND LADY, I CANNOT TELL YOU BECAUSE I, I HAVE NOT KEPT RUNNING RECORDS OF THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CALL THE CLERK'S OFFICE INQUIRING ABOUT AFFORDABLE AND LOW INCOME HOUSING.
SO WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS JUST, IT'S EXEMPLARY BECAUSE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE, AND NO ONE ELSE HAS STEPPED FORWARD TO ADDRESS THIS NEED IN THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU HAVE, AND IN THE MANNER IN WHICH YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, I CANNOT TELL YOU THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO CALL THE CLERK'S OFFICE INQUIRING ABOUT AFFORDABLE AND LOW INCOME HOUSING.
IT'S MANY WHO OWNS THE, UH,
THAT WAS ME WHO CAME UP WITH
SO I, I WISH THERE WAS A FLOODING, BUT WHO OWNS IT? WHO OWNS IT? THE TOWN.
SO NOW IT MAKES FLOODING EVEN MORE OF AN ISSUE, RIGHT? BECAUSE IF IT FLOODS, IT'S THE TOWN'S PROBLEM.
THE TOWN HAS TO WIDEN IT, THE TOWN HAS TO DREDGE IT, THE TOWN HAS TO, ALL OF THIS HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO WE OWN THAT PROPERTY THAT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF TREES, RIGHT? SO THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION AS WELL, SO THAT THIS DOES NOT BECOME, UM, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, AN ALBATROSS ON THE TOWN.
YOU HAVE YOUR, YOU NICE PRETTY BUILDINGS.
THEY MIGHT BE UP HIGH ENOUGH, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH WATERCOURSE BROOK
IT LOOKS LIKE WATER CROSS BROOK OR WB
SO IT'S FLOWING FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE SHEET TO THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE SHEET.
AND IT'S COLLECTING THE WATER FROM ACROSS OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD UP, AND IT STARTS THE, IT'S ELEVATION STARTS TO RISE, AND THEN IT CROSSES UNDER 2 87 AND THEN TRAVELS WESTERLY OF ALL PLACES.
AND THEN LOOKS BACK, IT, IT ENDS UP AT THE BRONX RIVER PARK.
WHERE YOU JUST HAVE TO CUT OFF FUNDING.
BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ATTITUDE.
WE'RE GONNA MAKE THIS HAPPEN, UH, BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FLOODING, WE KNOW WE HAVE TO ADDRESS THE FLOODING.
AND, AND THE THING IS, UH, WE KNOW THE STATE WANTS US TO ADDRESS THE FLOODING, AND THE STATE HAS FUNDS FOR IT.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS FUNDS FOR IT.
SO, UM, THE THING IS, I BELIEVE THAT IF THE TOWN BOARD SPEAKS OUT AND SAYS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT PROJECT.
THIS IS A REALLY GOOD, UM, INITIATIVE, AND WE LOBBY OUR STATE AND FEDERAL, UH, REPRESENTATIVES, WE WILL BE ABLE TO GET THE FUNDING THAT WE NEED, UH, TO HAVE, TO ADDRESS MAJOR STORMS. WE PROBABLY WILL BE ABLE TO IMPROVE, UH, UH, DRAINAGE AND FLOODING FOR THE IMMEDIATE AREA BECAUSE WE COULD, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING THAT THEY WANNA SEE HAPPEN, AND NOW WE COULD HELP IMPROVE FLOODING FOR THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, THAT WHOLE WARREN AVENUE.
AND, UH, I MEAN, THEY'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN HELPING SOME PEOPLE WHO LOST THEIR WHOLE HOMES FROM THE FLOOD TWO, TWO YEARS AGO.
SO WE'VE, AND WE'VE HAD, WE'VE DONE SOME WORK AND WE'VE MADE SOME PROGRESS, BUT WE COULD DO MORE.
SO I JUST THINK THAT, UM, THIS IS SUCH A FANTASTIC OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS FLOODING AND TO ADDRESS AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I THINK, I THINK PAUL HITS ON A, A GREAT NOTE THERE BECAUSE, AND, AND MR. AND MR. SHEEN ALSO, BECAUSE IN THE PAST WE'VE HAD, UH, SOME REQUESTS THAT WE'VE MADE TO THE TOWN
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TO DO SOME DREDGING OR SOME TIDINESS TODAY BECAUSE IT'S AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY, UH, AT, AT, UH, ON, ON MAPLE AND, AND WITH, WITH THE, UH, INCENTIVES THAT THE STATE, ESPECIALLY STATE, AND THERE'S SOME FEDERAL THAT, THAT THEY WANT TO REMEDIATE THE FLOODING PROBLEMS. THIS MIGHT BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO START PARTNERING WITH THEM, LOOKING AT WHAT CAN HAPPEN WITH THAT, UH, WITH THAT STREAM GOING FORWARD.IT, IT MIGHT BE THAT WE MAY HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT WE DID AT MANHATTAN AVENUE.
WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE LAYOUT OF IT.
TODAY MIGHT BE THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT RAISING THE PROPERTY IN SOME KIND, SOME FORM, UH, TO REMEDIATE THE, THE, UM, FLOODING, UH, PROBLEM THAT MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS WHEN YOU HAVE THE, UH, THE RIBBON CUTTING FOR THE, YOU KNOW, OPENING, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A LOT, YOU KNOW, OUR STATE SENATORS ASSEMBLY PEOPLE, THE, MAYBE THE GOVERNOR OR SENATORS, CONGRESSMEN, YOU KNOW, UM, MAYBE WE COULD INVITE THEM TO RIGHT AFTER THE RIBBON CUTTING, MAYBE WE COULD TAKE THEM ON A TOUR OF THE WARREN AVENUE APARTMENTS AND YOU COULD SHOW THEM.
SO, SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS IS STEP ONE IN TERMS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST BEGINNING BECAUSE WE WANT TO CONTINUE THE EFFORT.
AND THAT MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITY TO PUT THIS ON THEIR RADAR AND GET A COMMITMENT FROM THEM TO ACTUALLY HELP US GET THE FUNDS WE NEED.
TERRANCE, WOULD YOU MIND TURNING THE LIGHTS BACK ON AGAIN? I SEE WE'RE SITTING IN THE DARK.
AND, AND WE KNOW GOING FORWARD THAT THIS IS GONNA TAKE A LOT OF PARTNERING.
WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THIS BY OURSELVES.
WE GONNA NEED EVERY HAND ON, ON DECK ACTIVELY INVOLVED.
WE ALL COMMITT TO A FLO GLOBAL HOUSING MAKING SURE KNOW.
I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE CLARIFY THAT THIS IS LOW INCOME HOUSING WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, RIGHT? YES.
SO WE, WE KEEP SAYING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND INTERSPERSING WITH LOW INCOME HOUSING.
LOW INCOME HOUSING, THIS IS NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THIS IS LOW INCOME, LOW INCOME HOUSING THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS MOMENT.
NOW, ARE YOU DEFINING THAT AS 80% OF A M I UP TO 80% OR UP TO 60%? WE WOULD LIKE TO GO UP TO 80%.
YEAH, WE ARE LOOKING AT 80%, THEY HAVE THAT DEFINITION, RIGHT? BECAUSE MARK SO'S PROPERTIES 90 AND 133 OAK, THOSE ARE UP TO 60% OF A M I MM-HMM.
SO WHEN SOMEBODY SAYS NO ONE ELSE IS STEPPING UP, I MEAN, HE IS THAT HE'S CONTINUING TO DO SO AT THE FORMER WEST HELP SITE.
SO TOGETHER, YOU'RE WORKING ON AND DEALING WITH LOW INCOME, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO GET THE DEFINITION DOWN SO THAT THERE'S NO MISUNDERSTANDING.
AND WE WANT, WE WANNA BE, WE WANNA BE COGNIZANT OF THAT GOING FORWARD, ALL AT EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
BECAUSE, BECAUSE WE LOOK AT NUMBERS ALL THE TIME OF WHAT THE GREATER, GREATER NEEDS ARE.
AND, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE PINPOINT THOSE NEEDS.
AND THEN I SAY, I SAY MINISTER, BECAUSE I'M A PREACHER,
I'M SORRY, IF YOU COULD JUST SIT RIGHT HERE.
I JUST WANTED, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME.
CAN YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? JAMES BASIN.
YOU'RE A COMMISSIONER, PLEASE.
I JUST HAD ONE NOTE I JUST WANTED TO ADD.
THE SOURCE OF CAPITAL WILL CERTAINLY DRIVE THE, UH, INCOME LEVELS OF THE BUILDING.
AND SO IF YOU'RE USING LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS, THERE WILL BE A, CERTAINLY A PORTION OF THAT WILL HAVE TO BE CERTAINLY DESIGNATED FOR VERY LOW, LOW AND MODERATE INCOME.
AND, UH, AND THEN YOU BASICALLY AVERAGE THEM, DON'T YOU, TO STAY UNDER A CERTAIN NUMBER, YOU HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WITHIN THE TAX CREDIT STRUCTURE, THAT YOU ARE MEETING OCCUPANCY LEVELS AT THOSE PARTICULAR GUIDELINES.
AND, AND ALSO THIS ADVOCATES FOR, UM, SOMETHING WE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL WEEKS AGO, WHICH IS HAVING A, UM, TECHNICAL GRANT WRITER, UM, OR EITHER A CONSULTANT OR THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD DISCUSS FURTHER.
THE OTHER THING I WILL ADD TOO IS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE SIGNIFICANT CAPITAL COMING FOR DECARBONIZATION CLEAN ENERGY THROUGH NEW YORK STATE GREEN BANK AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE I R A, UH, PASSED A $27 BILLION AWARD.
8 BILLION OF THAT WILL BE FOR LOW INCOME COMMUNITIES.
AND SO I THINK THE TIME FOR THIS PROJECT IS ABSOLUTELY NOW.
SO WE'LL BE LINING UP, UH, WITH THOSE REQUESTS TO HOPE THAT WE'LL GET SOME CAPITAL OF SUPPORT, THE GREEN DECARBONIZATION OF THESE BUILDINGS.
WHAT HAVE YOU REACHED, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THE CURRENT OCCUPANTS TO GIVE THEM A UPDATE AS TO WHAT MAY BE COMING DOWN THE PIKE AND HOW THEY WILL BE, UH, TREATED? NOT, NOT, NOT FORMALLY.
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WILL USE THE, UH, SAME PROCESS THAT WE DID USE FOR MANHATTAN AVENUE AND THE, UH, SCATTERED SITES.WE'LL HAVE A SERIES OF MEETINGS TO, UH, LET THEM KNOW WHAT OUR VISIONS, OUR VISION IS AND, UH, AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND AND THE, UM, THE, THE FE FEASIBILITY OF HOW THAT'S GOING TO WORK.
THAT'S WHY WE ASKING FOR THAT FOUR STORY, LOOKING AT FOUR STORIES, RIGHT.
BY THIS SOUND BARRIER WALL, BECAUSE THAT'S AT IT'S LOOK, IT'S KIND OF LIKE AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT FROM OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT IT, WE, WE ARE ENVISIONING LOOKING AT A KIND OF A STEP UP LOOK FROM A LOAD FROM A TWO BUILDING TO A FOUR BUILDING, TWO, TWO STORY BUILDING ON THE STREET, THREE STORY AND FOUR STORY ON THAT ONE BUILDING AT THE BACK.
UH, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MEET WITH THEM AND LET THEM KNOW HOW THEY WILL BE, UH, IMPACTED AS FAR AS CHANGING THEIR RESIDENTS.
UH, SOME PEOPLE HAVE TO MOVE TWICE MINIMUM.
WELL, WHY TWICE WE PUT THE FIRST TWO, BUILD THE FIRST TWO BUILDINGS ON THAT END.
TO BE TORN DOWN AND DO THE FIRST STAGE.
AND THEN WE'LL THEN ONCE WE GET THAT, THAT BUILDING UP, IT WILL HOUSE ALL THE PEOPLE IN THOSE TWO BUILDINGS, PLUS A FEW MORE.
AND THEN ONCE WE USED TO BUILD THE NEXT STAGE, THEY JUST MOVED.
THE PEOPLE BE MOVING ONE TIME.
THOSE PE FIRST PEOPLE HAVE MOVED TWICE, BUT THEN THE REST OF THE PROPERTY BE MOVING ONE TIME.
I'VE HEARD YOU 30 PEOPLE, 20, WELL, 24.
I'VE HEARD YOU SAY TWO OR THREE TIMES.
NOW THE FOUR STORY IS NEEDED SO THAT WHEN YOU DO THE CONSTRUCTION, YOU CAN MOVE THE OTHER PEOPLE IN.
BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A, YOU KNOW, FEW MONTHS OF A LIFETIME ISSUE.
DO YOU, DO YOU REALLY NEED FOUR STORIES? UH, OTHER THAN YOU'D LIKE NOT TO MOVE PEOPLE WELL, AND YOU'D LIKE TO GET 'EM ALL IN THAT ONE BUILDING? WHAT IS THAT? WHAT'S DRIVING FOUR STORIES? WE NEED FOUR STORIES BE FOUR STORIES, BECAUSE WE HAVE RUN INTO, YOU WOULDN'T, YOU WOULDN'T, YOU WOULD BE SURPRISED.
I PUT IT THAT WAY OF THE PROBLEM WE'VE HAD, TRYING TO FIND PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE OUT WHILE WE RENOVATED THE, THE, UH, SCATTERED SITE.
IT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS PROBLEM.
I MEAN, AND A COSTLY PROCESS AND COSTLY.
AND, AND IF WE CAN DO IT THIS WAY, WE SAVE MONEY, PLUS WE CAN MINIMIZE THE, UH, TIME SPAN.
BECAUSE WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE RENTING OR TRYING TO RENT FROM OTHER PROPERTIES, AND THEY MAY HAVE UNIT THIS MONTH, NEXT MONTH, THEY DON'T HAVE A UNIT.
IT, IT, WE HAVE PUSH BACKS AND SIT BACKS AND ALL THOSE THINGS ARE COSTLY.
SO WE ARE LOOKING AT DOING IT THIS WAY, THAT WAY WE CAN MINIMIZE IT MUCH AND BE MORE IN CONTROL OF WHAT WE'RE DOING AS FAR AS THE, UH, MOVING, NOT TO MENTION NOT HAVING TO MOVE RESIDENTS TO FAR THOSE FAR-FLUNG PLACES.
UM, WHICH WAS A SOURCE OF CONSTERNATION AMONG RESIDENT, ESPECIALLY WHEN, AND MOVE IT.
THEN WE HAVE THAT EXTRA ROOM, HAVING THAT EXTRA SPACE TO UM, HAVE MORE AVAIL BUILDING.
YOU GOTTA MOVE SERVICES, YOU GOTTA MOVE YOUR, YOUR MAIL AND ADDRESS.
I MEAN, IT IS, IT'S, UH, I DO HAVE ANOTHER, JUST TO BACK UP A LITTLE QUESTION.
UM, WHAT SIZE UNITS ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? TWO BEDROOM, THREE BEDROOM, ONE BEDROOM.
WITH SOME MIXTURE OF, WE WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, SURE.
SO, UM, THERE'LL BE ONE BEDROOMS, TWO BEDROOMS, THREE BEDROOMS, FOUR BEDROOMS TO COMPLEMENT WHAT THE CURRENT HOUSING STOCK IS.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING RIGHT.
THEY'RE GONNA BE THEN RIGHT SIZED INTO THE APPROPRIATE SIZED UNIT.
UM, AND THAT, AND THEN FROM THERE IS, THERE'LL BE A MIX.
SO THE MIX IS GONNA BE THE SAME PERCENTAGE AS WHAT THEY HAVE NOW.
THE ADDED 60 UNITS, WE CAN THEN SEE WHAT THE MARKET IS.
UM, THERE'S A TENDENCY TO BE MORE TO ONES AND TWOS, BUT THEY, THEY'LL PROBABLY KNOW THAT, UM, RIGHT THROUGH THE APPLICATION PROCESS AND WE CAN YEAH.
AND I'M NOT, ANOTHER THING THAT OCCURS TO ME, AND I'M NOT SURE HOW THIS WORKS, BUT IF, UM, TO HAVE, UM, ACCESSIBLE UNITS, UH, WAS THAT INTERNATIONAL DESIGN OR WE WILL HAVE TO DO YEAH.
UM, NEW YORK STATE HAS A MANDATE AND THEN THROUGH, UM, HUD OR THROUGH THE FAIR HOUSING ACT, WE HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO, BUT YES.
SO THERE WILL BE, UM, FULLY ACCESSIBLE POTENTIALLY, BUT CERTAINLY ALL OF THEM WILL BE VISITABLE AND THEY'LL ALL HAVE, UH, BE ADAPTABLE.
THE TERM THAT IS OKAY, IS WHERE WE ARE.
I MEAN, TO FULLY ACCESSIBLE, WE STILL HAVE TO TALK WITH THE OWNERSHIP.
THAT'S JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER.
AND, AND ALSO WE, THERE WERE, THERE ARE A FEW, UH, FIVE BEDROOMS. WE'LL BE ELIMINATING ALL FIVE BEDROOMS BECAUSE IT'S DIFFICULT TO REALLY PROPERLY HOUSE FIVE BEDROOMS AT THIS TIME.
FAMILIES ARE NOT AS LARGE AS MINE.
I, IT WAS 16 OF US BROTHERS AND SISTERS, BUT
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HAVE, BLESS YOUR MOM.THEN YOU NEED SEVERAL, WE HAVE FIVE BEDROOM UNITS.
SO I'M JUST THINKING ABOUT THIS.
UM, THIS PROBABLY, THIS IS WAY TOO EARLY FOR THIS, BUT THE CURRENT, THE CURRENT STRUCTURE YOU HAVE IS THE DUPLEX UP, UP AND DOWN.
SO NOW WHEN YOU GO TO IT'S CAR NO, IT'S GARDEN APARTMENT.
THERE THERE ARE DUPLEX GARDEN APARTMENTS.
IF YOU WANT TO PARDON MY HANDS MM-HMM.
SO YOU HAVE ONE UNIT WITH, WITH TWO OR THREE FLOORS, AND THE NEXT ONE WITH TWO FLOORS, AND THIS IS, AND THEN THE WAY TO GRADE WORKS FOR ONE TO THE OTHER.
ONE SIDE LOOKS AS TWO STORIES, AND THE OTHER SIDE IS THREE STORIES.
BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY ALL INTERLOCKED.
SO THAT'S, IT'S A GARDEN APARTMENT, BUT THEY'RE ALL DUPLEXES.
SO HOW IS THAT GONNA, HOW IS THAT SIZE-WISE? BECAUSE NOW IF YOU, HOW YOU WELL, I JUST, I'M, I'M TRYING TO VISUALIZE HOW THAT'S GONNA LOOK.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA, IF WE'RE GOING LIKE THIS NOW, AND NOW WE'RE GONNA GO STRAIGHT TO GARDEN APARTMENTS, NO APARTMENT, WE'RE NOT GOING STRAIGHT.
I THINK THAT'S NOW YOU GOING TO APARTMENTS NOW, BUT, BUT, BUT STILL NOW THE SPACING.
SO HOW BIG ARE THE APARTMENTS GOING TO BE NOW? BECAUSE REMEMBER YOU HAVE MORE SPACE, COMPARABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE, COMPARABLE SQUARE FOOTAGE.
IT, THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT REMOVING THE UNITS TOWARD, UH, THE LIVING STYLES OF TODAY.
IF EVERYTHING WOULD GO GREAT AND THERE'S A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM, WHAT'S THE, UH, ESTIMATED TIMETABLE LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD BE YOUR DREAM? UM, YOU KNOW, GOALS IF EVERYTHING FALLS IN PLACE, I'M GONNA LEAVE IT TO ED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I DON'T HAVE TO, I MEAN, IF YOU ASK ME, THE SHOVEL'S GOING IN IN SIX MONTHS, BUT THERE IS STILL A PROCESS.
SO WE STILL HAVE TO, UM, PURSUE A ZONING CHANGE MM-HMM.
AND FROM THERE WE HAVE TO PURSUE A SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND THEN THROUGH THE PHASING PROCESS, RIGHT.
PERMITTING, PHASING FUNDING, ALL THAT NEEDS TO, NEEDS TO COME TOGETHER.
UM, THEN WE'RE MOVING INTO CONSTRUCTION.
SO IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO, UH, I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, HOW THE ZONING PROCESS WORK, BUT WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO APPLY FOR THE ZONING CHANGES NOW? AND THIS WAY WE COULD SAVE, UM, SAVE SOME.
JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE WE JUST GOTTA FOLLOW THE TAX PROCESS.
THEY NEED PLANS, RIGHT? PLANS ONLY CHANGE.
SAY QUESTIONS YOU'RE ASKING NOW ARE INSIGNIFICANT.
IF YOU COME UP, YOU COME UP WITH A THREE AND FOUR.
IF YOU COME, YOU ALREADY HAVE THE CONCEPT.
SO IF YOU COULD YOU COME AND SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE CONCEPT, THIS IS BASICALLY WHAT WE WANT AND WE'RE GONNA STAY WITHIN, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THIS CONCEPT.
AND, UM, AND WE'RE ASKING FOR A ZONING CHANGE THAT WOULD LET US, IF WE COMPLY WITH THIS VISION, UH, TO MOVE AHEAD RATHER THAN HAVE THE EXACT, BECAUSE BECAUSE MY FAILING IS THAT IF WE KNOW IT'S GONNA TAKE TIME, THE ZONING BOARD ALWAYS TAKES TIME.
SO IF WE, IS THERE A WAY OF EXPEDITING THE ZONING REVIEWS? SO THIS WAY WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT WAITING ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, LONG PERIOD OF TIME.
I DON I DON'T, THEY CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
I I DON'T, I DON'T SEE HOW WE CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
UH, UH, MR. FINER BECAUSE, UH, WE, I HAVEN'T SEEN, UH, THE ZONING CHANGE WITHOUT PLANS YET.
AND, AND WE DON'T CONTROL THE ZONING BOARD.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TOWN BOARD HAS TO WORK WITH THE ZONING BOARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T WORK, WE DON'T WORK WITH THE ZONING.
THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED, I KNOW THEY'RE ALL SEPARATE.
THERE'S SOMETHING CALLED THE ETHICS CODE.
WE CAN'T INFLUENCE THE ZONING.
OUR, UH, OUR, UH, REASONING FOR COMING TO YOU TODAY IS SO WE CAN GET THINGS STARTED EARLY SO THAT WHEN WE GET TO THOSE THINGS THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT UP A STOP SIGN.
SO WAIT, I DIDN'T HEAR THIS AND I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
WE WANT TO BE AS OPEN IN THE PROCESS SO THAT YOU ALREADY LOOKING FOR THE GREEN LIGHT DOWN DOWN THE STREET.
AS WE, AS WE DRIVE, DRIVE THIS, UH, VEHICLE DOWN THE ROAD, WE WANT TO SAY WHEN, WELL, ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED? WE'D RATHER HAVE YOU HAVE THE ZONING BOARD SAY, WHAT, WAIT, ARE WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU TO GET SOME PLANNING RATHER THAN TO GO TO THE ZONING BOARD AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, WE NEVER HEARD OF THIS.
SO THAT'S WHY WE, WE ARE TRYING TO GET THIS STARTED.
THIS'S THE LOGIC OF COMING TO YOUR, SO THERE IS PROCESS.
AND WE CAN WORK WITH TOWN STAFF TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST ROUTE TO TAKE BOTH WITH THE ZONING CHANGE AND THEN GOING THROUGH A SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
SITE PLAN APPROVAL AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MIGHT TRIGGER SOME ZONING, BUT YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT A CODE CHANGE VARIANCE, RIGHT? WELL, THE FIRST THING IS THE ZONING CHANGE, WHICH IS, SORRY.
I, IF I COULD ON, ON PROCESS, UM, WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS DON'T USE THE WORD CODE CHANGE COMES
WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS NOT USING THE WORD CODE CHANGE.
WHAT YOU'LL BE PETITIONING IS THE TOWN BOARD FOR
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A ZONING MAP AMENDMENT TO THE M 22.SO THE ZONING CODE WILL STAY, THE CHA STAY, THE SAME ZONING ORDINANCE WILL NOT CHANGE.
YOU WILL REQUEST THAT ZONING MAP CHANGE, UM, TO THE M 22.
WITHIN THAT, YOU WOULD ABSOLUTELY PREPARE, UH, A SITE PLAN APPLICATION AS WELL AS, UM, THE ENVIRONMENTAL WORK.
SO WHEN BOARD MEMBERS IDENTIFY THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CONCERN ABOUT STORMWATER, YOU WOULD PREPARE THAT IN CONNECTION WITH THE, UH, ZONING MAP AMENDMENT.
YOU WOULD ALSO, UM, WHEN BOARD MEMBERS IDENTIFY THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE CROSS SECTIONS SO THAT THEY CAN GET A GOOD UNDERSTANDING FOR WHAT THE BUILDING WOULD LOOK LIKE AT TWO, THREE, AND FOUR STORIES, UH, JUXTAPOSED ALONGSIDE THE ADJOINING NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD DO AND THEN THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, HELP YOU, UH, IDENTIFY THE EXTENT TO, YOU KNOW, LANDSCAPING THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD BUFFER THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
SO WE WILL ABSOLUTELY WORK WITH YOU ON ALL THESE INPUTS THAT ARE SECRET BASED.
I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE TOWN BOARD WOULD BE LEAD AGENCY.
UM, AND, UM, BUT THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE, THE, THE FLOW OF OPERATIONS.
AND THEN ABSOLUTELY WE WOULD BE THINKING ABOUT CONCURRENT REVIEWS WITH BOTH THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE ZONING BOARD.
UH, THEY WOULD ALL BE INVOLVED AGENCIES IN THE SEEKER PROCESS.
SO THAT'S HOW YOU, YOU DO GET SOME, UM, CONCURRENCY THERE.
BUT, UM, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY WORK WITH YOU OFFLINE AND IDENTIFY RELEVANT SECRET AREAS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE, WE JUST KNOW NEED TO BE, UM, REALLY FOCUSED IN ON AND, UH, STAFF I, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE RELATIONSHIP THAT WE'VE BUILT AND ASSISTING YOU IN ANY WAY WE CAN.
THIS IS, IT'S EXCITING AND, UM, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THIS PROGRESS AT A RAPID PACE
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HEAR, THOUGH, FROM THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING FROM THESE DUPLEX GARDEN APARTMENTS TO PARTICULARLY TO THE FOUR STORY BECAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S A DIFFERENT CULTURE IN A A FOUR STORY BUILDING THAT A THREE OR GARDEN APARTMENTS, UM, OR DUPLEX GARDEN APARTMENTS, UM, THEY MIGHT KNOW, NOT KNOW EACH OTHER AS WELL IN A FOUR STORY BUILDING AS THEY WOULD AND, AND ONE'S, AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO GET THEIR VIEW AS TO WHAT WOULD THEY, UM, ENJOY.
AND, UH, AND, AND WORK WITH THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE MEETINGS AND, UH, RIGHT, LIKE, LIKE WE HAD ABOUT EIGHT, EIGHT MEETINGS WITH, UH, MANHATTAN AVENUE.
WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE ALONG THAT LINE WITH, WITH THESE TO GET THEIR FEEDBACK AND GET THEIR INPUT.
I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL, UM, TO HAVE MORE OF THESE TYPES OF INFORMATION MEETINGS.
THIS IS REALLY WHAT THIS IS, IS AN INFORMATION MEETING.
SO WE GET TO HEAR WHAT YOUR PROPOSAL IS, EVEN THOUGH SOME OF US HAVE SEEN THE PLANS IN ADVANCE, UH, YOU PUT CONTEXT TO IT, WHICH WAS VERY HELPFUL.
AND IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY EARLY ON SO THERE'S NO MISCOMMUNICATION, COME UP WITH WHATEVER YOUR DEFINITIONS ARE SO THAT WE COULD WORK WITH THAT, WHAT YOUR NEEDS ARE.
THE ELEVATION DRAWINGS WOULD BE GREAT.
SO THAT WHEN YOU DO MOVE DOWN ALONG THE PROCESS AND DO COME FOR A HEARING, UH, MOST OF THE QUESTIONS WILL HAVE BEEN ASKED.
AND FURTHER TO WHAT COUNCILMAN SHEEN SAID, JUST KNOWING THE FEEDBACK YOU'VE GOTTEN FROM THE RESIDENTS WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS YOU KNOW, WE, WE WILL HEAR ABOUT IT EVEN THOUGH IT'S THE PURVIEW
SO, YOU KNOW, SO IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE TO KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
NO, THAT'S OUR, THAT'S, THAT'S OUR INTENT AND THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO MEET EARLY.
UH, WE, WE MAY HAVE TO MEET WITH THE, UH, PRELIMINARILY WITH THE, UH, ZONING BOARD AND THE PLANNING BOARD.
WE, WE, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED.
ZONING BOARD DOESN'T DO THAT KIND OF THING, BUT THE PLANNING BOARD DOES.
BUT, UH, WE WANT TO GET AS MUCH INFORMATION OUT A CHECKLIST.
THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE TOWN AND FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE TOWN.
AND, UH, LET'S, LET'S MAKE GREENBERG NUMBER ONE.
AND I'M, AND, AND I'M EXCITED ABOUT YOU ALL BEING EXCITED ABOUT THIS
DID IT UPDATE
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, I'VE BEEN, I'LL SAY I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, UM, SOME OF THE, UM, RESIDENTS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, EAST DALE AVENUE.
AND AS A FOLLOW UP TO, UH, YOU, THE MEETING THAT WE HAD, UH, LAST WEEK, UH, THERE WERE JUST TWO SUGGESTIONS THAT I HAVE.
UM, ONE IS, UM, I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD, UM, ASK OUR STATE LAWMAKERS TO, UM, INTRODUCE LEGISLATION THAT WOULD PROVIDE, UH, THE TOWN BOARD WITH AUTHORITY, UH, TO HAVE THE SPEED CAMERAS.
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YOU KNOW, IF WE GET THE AUTHORIZATION, IT DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE TO DO IT, BUT IT WOULD GIVE US A TOOL THAT WE COULD, WE COULD USE.WOULD THAT BE THE US HA PASSING A RESOLUTION REQUESTING A HOME RULE YES.
IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN, TO GIVE US THE OPTION TO GIVE US THAT.
SO AS I MENTIONED LAST WEEK, UM, TOM ABE, WHEN HE WAS THE ASSEMBLY PERSON, WAS WORKING WITH US ON BASICALLY SLIPPING US IN TO LEGISLATION THAT PASSED LAST YEAR.
UM, UH, BUT THEN HE, HE DIDN'T WIN THE PRIMARY AND THAT WAS THE END OF THAT.
BUT THERE IS THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION OUT THERE THAT WOULD HELP US AT LEAST TO GET THIS THING STARTED.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, PERHAPS, UH, MARY JANESKY COULD, UH, HELP TAKE THAT AND RUN WITH IT BECAUSE, UM, IT, IT'S JUST PERFECT TIMING.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, I'M NOT A FAN OF RED LIGHT CAMERAS BECAUSE OF THE REAR END COLLISIONS THAT THEY PRODUCE.
PEOPLE SEE ALL OF A SUDDEN AT THE LAST MOMENT, THE RED LIGHT AND THEY SLAM ON THE BRAKES AND THE PERSON BEHIND THEM RUNS INTO THEM.
APPARENTLY, RESEARCH ON THAT IS THAT, THAT MAY HAPPEN INITIALLY, BUT THEN PEOPLE START TO BECOME AWARE AND IT ENDS UP BEING A, A REAL SAFETY BONUS RATHER THAN THAT.
BUT BELIEVE ME, HAVING BEEN REAR-ENDED AND LOSING MY CAR FOR TWO MONTHS, I'M, I'M VERY EMPATHETIC TO THAT POSITION.
YOU KNOW, I WAS ALSO THINKING TODAY, UM, WHEN I WAS ON THE AVENUE THAT IF WE PUT UP LIKE A SIGN ON, UH, EAST DALE AVENUE SAYING GREENBURG TOWN BOARD HAS ASKED FOR AUTHORITY TO HAVE SPEED CAMERAS.
ARE YOU SERIOUS? PEOPLE MAY, I'M SAYING IF WE PUT UP A SIGN ON ON EAST TAR AVENUE, PEOPLE WILL THINK THAT WE ALREADY HAVE THE SPEED CAMERAS DON'T LESS STUFF AND THEN THEY GO CRASH INTO SOMETHING.
NO, OUR, OUR TOWN ATTORNEY'S NOT A POKER PLAYER.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH IT.
IF, IF, IF, IF WE'RE GONNA, IF RIGHT, IF THE WHOLE IDEA IS THAT, NEVERMIND, I WON'T WON.
THAT'S THE FIRST YOU BEING KICKED UNDER THE TABLE BY OUR TOWN ATTORNEY.
YOU KNOW, HE SENT ME A VULCAN MIND LINK.
I WAS GONNA ASK YOU ABOUT THAT ALL.
SO THE TAKEAWAY IS THAT WE'RE GOING TO, UH, ASK FOR A HOME RULE.
WE CAN PUT IT ON FOR THE NEXT AGENDA.
WELL LET, LET'S NEXT SOLUTION RESEARCH AND LET US KNOW.
HE'LL COME BACK WITH A TIME WHEN HE CAN, BUT LET HIM DO HIS RESEARCH.
UM, THE SECOND THING THAT I WAS THINKING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY GETS DISTRACTED AND THERE'S SO MANY ISSUES THAT COME UP.
SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD CREATE AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, AN INFORMAL ADVISORY COMMITTEE FOR PEOPLE ON EAST HARSDALE AVENUE TO MEET WITH THE CHIEF, TO MEET WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
WHY, WHY, SINCE, LET ME JUST ASK YOU, LET ME JUST 'CAUSE I REMEMBER SEEING THAT, BUT WE ALREADY HAVE A POLICE ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT DOES THAT ALREADY.
SO, AND THERE WAS ALREADY A, AND THERE WAS ALREADY A STUDY.
YOU KNOW, IT'S ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
SO WE CAN HAVE RESIDENTS, IT'S OPEN TO EVERYONE IN THE TOWN, SO WE CAN HAVE RESIDENTS COME IN AND WE, AND THE POLICE CHIEF AND HIS STAFF MEMBERS ARE ALREADY THERE.
SO INSTEAD OF REINVENTING THE WHEEL, WE CAN UTILIZE THIS COMMITTEE.
LET ME GIVE YOU THE OTHER THOUGHT ON THAT.
YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
MY FEELING IS THAT, UH, RIGHT NOW THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL HAS DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB IN TERMS OF PROMOTING, UH, SAFETY ON, UH, IN EDGEMONT, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, UH, WORKING WITH GARRETT, THEY'RE COMING UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
UM, UH, THE POLICE DE THEY WROTE A LETTER PRAISING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE EDGE.
THE POLICE ARE INTERACTING WITH THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY AND THEY'RE GETTING RESULTS.
SO I SET FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD DEALS WITH SO MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES.
SO IF WE HAD A HANDFUL OF PEOPLE, UH, FROM EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, THAT WOULD MEET PERIODICALLY WITH THE GREENBERG POLICE BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE MOST SUPERVISOR, JOIN UP THE LAST DAY.
IF I COULD, IF I, IF I COULD MAY, YEAH.
GETTING TO WHAT COUNCILMAN JONES JUST SAID ABOUT THE SPEED CAMERAS, THIS IS THE WORST TIME, PARTICULARLY WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE HAVING A TRIBUTE TOMORROW NIGHT.
THIS IS THE WORST TIME TO SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED TO STUDY.
WE NOT STUDY, BUT THE STUDY WAS DONE ALREADY.
WE, WE KNOW THE PROBLEMS. PEOPLE WANT US TO FIX IT.
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FEW YEARS AGO.I'M ASKING FOR A STUDY, BUT WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR A COMMITTEE TO COME TOGETHER? NO, I'M ASKING FOR BASICALLY, UM, UH, A, A GROUP OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD BE MEETING PERIODICALLY, UH, WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MONITOR WHAT'S HAPPENING.
HOW MANY TICKETS HAVE THEY ISSUED? THE POLICE COMMUNITY ADVISORY BOARD DOES, THOUGH.
SO I THINK A GREAT THING WOULD BE TO REFER THIS PROJECT TO THEM AND THEN REFER PEOPLE FROM THE AVENUE TO THAT GROUP SO THEY COULD ALL WORK TOGETHER, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY DO.
AND COMMISSIONER DUANE, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE STUDY THAT WAS ALREADY DONE WHEN A GROUP WAS EMPANELED A FEW YEARS AGO? YEAH.
I WILL SAY THE HARTSDALE NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION DID GIVE THE TOWN A GREAT, CAN, CAN I GET CLOSER? YEAH, SURE.
THE HARTSDALE NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION DID GET, PROVIDE THE TOWN WITH A GREAT TEMPLATE OF, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT IT FELT WOULD HELP THE AVENUE.
AND WHAT WE DID IS WE TOOK THOSE, THAT TEMPLATE AND WE PROVIDED IT TO A K R F WHO PREPARED, YOU KNOW, STUDIES, I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY.
WHO IS A K R F A K R F, THE CONSULTANT HIRED BY THE TOWN BOARD TO REALLY FOCUS IN ON NOT ONLY ENGINEERING CONSULTANT EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE FROM A TRANSPORTATION SAFETY PERSPECTIVE.
UM, SO THOSE INPUTS FROM THE HARTSDALE NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION WERE GIVEN TO A K R F.
AND THEN NOW THAT THE TOWN HAS ACQUIRED THE TAP GRANT FOR EAST AND WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, THOSE SAME INPUTS AND INFORMATION FROM THE HARTSDALE NEIGHBORS ASSOCIATION ARE BEING BUILT INTO THE, ESSENTIALLY THE TAP GRANT IMPLEMENTATION.
WHICH IS PRESENTLY BEING ENGINEERED.
AND I DO HAVE, UH, TWO UPDATES IN THAT REGARD.
UM, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 12TH AT 7:00 PM WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE THE CONSULTANT, WHICH IS, UH, WHAT DAY IS THAT? THURSDAY, OCTOBER 12TH, 7:00 PM UM, BARTON AND LEG.
JUDAS DO AN INFORMATIONAL PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETING AT 7:00 PM AND THAT WOULD BE, WE ENVISION A HYBRID MEETING.
SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, HOSTED HERE AT THE TOWN HALL AUDITORIUM, AND THEN ALSO AVAILABLE VIA ZOOM, UM, IN THE SAME, SAME FASHION THAT THE TOWN BOARD RUNS ITS HYBRID MEETINGS.
SO THE, THE, THE NATURE OF THAT MEETING IS FOR THE CONSULTANT TO PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC HOW INTENDS TO IMPLEMENT THE GRANT THAT THE TOWN HAS ACQUIRED.
AND AGAIN, I SPOKE ABOUT THAT A COUPLE WORK SESSIONS AGO, BUT IN VERY SHORT, IT'S THREEFOLD.
IT'S THE SIDEWALK FROM WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UH, FROM FOUR CORNERS UP TO PAC CAPONE ROAD, THE POTENTIAL IMPLEMENTATION OF ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEM.
SO UPDATED SIGNALIZATION ALONG ALL OF EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, SINKING UP THE TRAIN STATION TO FOUR CORNERS.
AND THEN LASTLY, UM, MAYBE MOST IMPORTANTLY, A SERIES OF, UM, UH, TRAFFIC CALMING AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG ALL OF EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
SO WHAT OUR ENC, OUR CONSULTANT INTENDS TO DO ON OCTOBER 12TH IS PRESENT THAT IN DETAIL.
I GAVE A VERY SHORT SNIPPET A COUPLE WORK SESSIONS AGO.
UM, THEY WILL IN COMPREHENSIVELY GO THROUGH THE PLANS, HAVE GRAPHICS, AND THERE WILL ALSO BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC, UM, IF THERE'S QUESTIONS INPUT.
UM, SO WE INTEND TO HOST THAT HERE IN THE AUDITORIUM AND HAVE IT BE HYBRID.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE ANNOUNCEMENT.
AND THEN ALSO, UH, FORTUNATELY, THE TOWN HAS ALSO ACQUIRED, BEFORE YOU MOVE AWAY FROM THAT, THEY ARE GOING TO BE RESENTING WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AT THE DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS THAT WE HEARD WERE SO DANGEROUS, SUCH AS A COLUMBIA AND AT ROCKLEDGE AND BY DESANTIS PLAZA.
UH, THEY HAVE BEEN STUDYING THIS AS PROFESSIONALS AND ENGINEERS, YOU KNOW, FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW, AND THEY'LL BE PROVIDING POSSIBLE OPTIONS FOR US TO PURSUE, UH, WHICH IS VERY APPROPRIATE AND GREAT TIMING, UH, TO ADDRESS ISSUES THAT WE HEARD ON THE AVENUE LAST WEEK AND THE WEEK BEFORE THAT.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY THE INTENT.
AND, UM, WHAT, WHAT I THINK WE WILL ALL SEE IS THAT IT'S, IT'S NOT ONE SOLUTION.
SO EVERY INTERSECTION'S UNIQUE, AND THEY'RE BRINGING UNIQUE SOLUTIONS TO ALL THESE DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS.
THAT'S REALLY, SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S AN, A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE EAST HARTSDALE, WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UH, GRANT IMPLEMENTATION.
WE'RE VERY FORTUNATE HERE AT THE TOWN.
WE ARE ALSO RECIPIENTS OF A GRANT FOR DOBBS FERRY ROAD, AND I'M HERE TO ANNOUNCE THAT, UH, WE ARE SEEKING TO DO THE SAME TYPE OF PUBLIC OUTREACH MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH AT 6:00 PM UM, YOU JUST PREPARED THE MAILINGS FOR THAT.
WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH AT 6:00 PM SO WE'RE TALKING A WEEK FROM TOMORROW.
UM, AM I MISTAKEN THERE YET? THAT'S RIGHT, YES.
AND THAT ONE WE'RE INTENDING TO DO, UH, FULLY VIA ZOOM.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A VERY, AS IMPORTANT OF A PROJECT, IT'S JUST SMALLER IN SCALE.
SO IT'S, THE FOCUS OF THAT WILL BE, UM, DOBBS FERRY ROAD, SIDEWALK GRANT IMPLEMENTATIONS.
WE HAVE THIS AN ENGINEER ALSO THAT'S DESIGNED THESE, THESE, THESE, THIS, THIS PROJECT TO, UH, 30% LEVEL, AND THEY'RE GONNA PRESENT TO THE PUBLIC, UH, ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20TH, 6:00 PM UH, THE PLANS FOR THAT SIDEWALK.
AND JUST IN SHORT, THAT'S, UH,
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FROM SORRENTINO PLACE, WHICH IS VERY CLOSE TO, UH, METROPOLIS COUNTRY CLUB ALL THE WAY TO ROUTE ONE 19.SO IT'S ABOUT 2,500 LINEAR FEET, AND IT'S ON THE SOUTH.
IT'S PROPOSED TO BE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF DOBBS FERRY ROAD, OR THE GOLF COURSE SIDE OF DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
AND THE INTENT THERE IS TO ALSO, UM, HAVE THAT COINCIDE OR SINK UP WITH THE SIDEWALK THAT'S OBLIGATED TO BE BUILT BY, UH, THE METROPOLIS DEVELOPER WHEN THEY CAME BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE SENIOR HOUSING, THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED AS PART OF THAT PROJECT, A CONDITION THAT MANDATES A SIDEWALK TO BE BUILT FROM SORRENTINO PLACE TO WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
SO ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT SIDEWALK PROPOSALS ARE KIND OF ALL FILLING, WHICH ALREADY HAS A SIDEWALK YES.
ARE ALL FILLING IN GAPS, AND YOU CAN KIND OF SEE THE INTENT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE SHOWING MAPPING OF NOT ONLY THESE AREAS, BUT HOW EVERYTHING'S SORT OF, UM, SINKING TOGETHER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU'VE, YOU'VE, YOU'VE MENTIONED IT, YOU KNOW, THE CONCEPT OF REALLY GOING FROM THE HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY WORKING TOWARDS GETTING THAT ALL THE WAY TO ONE
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK ABOUT THE, UM, ELMWOOD, YOU KNOW, PROJECT THAT, THAT THAT WAS APPROVED, UM, BY THE PLANNING BOARD AS A SUBDIVISION.
THEY'RE DOING A SIGNIFICANT SIDEWALK.
SO WE'RE REALLY LIKE CHIPPING AWAY AT THE ARTERIES OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG'S GREAT.
FROM A PEDESTRIAN, UH, PERSPECTIVE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME TRYING TO BALANCE LOCAL ROADS AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW THE TOWN BOARD'S BEEN SUPER PROACTIVE.
GOT, UH, NORTH WASHINGTON RECENTLY DONE, UM, JUNIPER, UH, HILL ROAD PHASE TWO IN THE WORK.
SO THERE'S JUST SO MUCH GOOD THINGS HAPPENING.
UM, BUT YEAH, THIS IS, THESE ARE THE UPDATES I WANTED TO BRING TO THE TABLE.
AND I'M GRING A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE THE BOARD HAS BEARED THE BRUNT OF A LOT OF CRITICISM OF YOU'RE BUILDING A SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE.
YOU KNOW, AS WE GO THROUGH AND WE HAVE THESE APPROVALS AND THEY JUST BUILD IT, BUT IT DOES, IT DOESN'T END IT, IT ENDS AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO SIDEWALK.
NOW WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THE PIECES GET FILLED IN, AND SO THE NEXT TIME YOU SEE A SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE, JUST RECOGNIZE, YOU KNOW, NONE OF THIS CAN BE DONE RIGHT AWAY.
UH, THESE, THESE SIDEWALKS ARE EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE TO PUT IN, BUT WE'RE SLOWLY, SLOWLY STARTING TO FILL IT IN.
AND IF THERE'S NO BETTER EXAMPLE THAN TO BE ABLE TO GO FROM ONE 19 TO FOUR CORNERS.
AND AS GARRETT TO THE TRAIN STATION, AND AS GARRETT MENTIONED, WE'VE, SINCE 2015, WE'VE, UH, BUILT OR FUNDED, UM, UH, OR SEEN PRETTY MUCH IN PROCESS ON I THINK 11.3 MILES OF NEW SIDEWALKS, WHICH IS REALLY AN INCREDIBLE, UH, ACCOMPLISHMENT.
AND IT'S JUST, THE ONLY UNFORTUNATE PART IS THE COST OF THESE SIDEWALKS.
WELL, THAT'S MY QUESTION, BECAUSE THE COST WASN'T SO GREAT.
WE WOULD BE BUILDING TWICE AS MUCH.
BUT YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND THE COST.
ROUGHLY HOW MUCH IS THE COST PER MILE? WHEW, BOY.
UM, IT'S $400 A LINEAR FOOT IS KIND OF OUR RULE OF THUMB, WHICH, UM, YOU COULD BE ANYWHERE.
YOU COULD APPROACH $2 MILLION FOR A MILE OF SIDEWALK.
IT'S, IT'S JUST, SO, JUST, JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY A FRAME OF REFERENCE DEPENDS ON WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.
IT'S AN ASTRONOMICAL, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE EVERY TIME WHEN I'M DRIVING AROUND OR BICYCLING AROUND, I'VE BEEN NOTICING, UH, PEOPLE ARE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALKS LIKE A LOT, YOU KNOW? SO EVEN, UM, I WAS ON CENTRAL AVENUE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, I SAW TWO PEOPLE WALKING ON THE SIDEWALK FROM WEST HARSDALE AVENUE TO MARION.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEN I WAS DRIVING A FEW DAYS AGO AND I SAW ANOTHER PERSON, YOU KNOW, WHERE I LIVE NEAR SPRING ROAD.
I SEE AT LEAST ONE PERSON OR TWO PEOPLE EVERY DAY WHEN I'M RI WHEN I'M DRIVING.
UH, THIS MORNING, EARLY IN THE MORNING, I SAW A BUNCH OF KIDS THERE.
UM, SO IT'S REALLY EXCITING BECAUSE YOU REALLY SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MAKING THE AREA SAFER.
AND PEOPLE ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE GO TO THESE MEETINGS AND THEY FEEL NOTHING'S GONNA HAPPEN.
AND I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SHOW THROUGH, WHETHER IT'S THE HAWK LIGHT OR THE, ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE OVER THE YEARS, THAT WHEN WE SAY WE'RE COMMITTED TO PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, WE REALLY ARE GONNA BACK IT UP WITH ACTION.
AND SOME OF IT IS, UH, IT COULD BE, THERE'S DIFFERENT, THERE'S DIFFERENT ONES.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I SAID TYPICALLY 80 20.
UM, BUT I, I, I WILL, WE, WE, WE LEARN AS WE GO.
BUT LIKE JUNIPER HILL'S, NOTHING, RIGHT.
AVENUE, SIDEWALK, UM, THE TOWN BOARD CERTAINLY DID MORE THAN 20% BECAUSE YOU LEARN AS YOU GO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS THE FIRST GRANT THAT I PERSONALLY OBTAINED FOR THE TOWN.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, KNOWING THE PROCESS AS I KNOW IT NOW, I NOW LEARN, YOU KNOW, THE TAP GRANT FOR WEST HARSDALE AVENUE GO FOR THE MAX 5 MILLION
UM, BUT, UM, TYPICALLY IT'S AN 80 20 MATCH.
JUST TO, THAT'S JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS IS HOW WE'RE PUTTING THEIR TAX DOLLARS
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TO WORK TOO.UM, OH, IT'S THAT, NO, THE TOWN DEFINITELY IN TERMS OF, UM, WORKER POWER AND, UH, JUST FISCALLY, YEAH.
IT'S A, IT'S A MAJOR INVESTMENT, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU ARE ADVOCATING AND APPROVING VIA THESE GRANTS.
UM, I WILL PUT TOGETHER AN E-BLAST, 'CAUSE I KNOW NOT EVERYONE'S WATCHING LIVE.
UM, SO THESE TWO INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS, UH, WE WANT AS MANY PEOPLE TO COME AS POSSIBLE.
THERE WILL BE LIMITED MAILINGS.
WE'RE TRYING TO SAVE COSTS, BUT WE'LL DO AN E-BLAST AND, UH, WE'LL LOOK TO GET THAT OUT AND THE WORD.
AND MAYBE THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, IF WE MAKE THEM AWARE, THEY CAN PASS OUT FLYERS OR CALL, MAKE PHONE CALLS AND WHATEVER IT IS.
WE'LL BE EMAILING TO THE CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS FOR SURE, FOR THE DOPPS FERRY ROAD.
A LOT OF PEOPLE PARK THEIR CARS, YOU KNOW, ON DOPPS FERRY ROAD.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, THE THING THAT I WAS THINKING OF, UH, YESTERDAY IS HOW ARE YOU KNOW, IS THAT GONNA IMPACT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE USED TO PARKING THEIR CARS,
HOW IS THAT GONNA IMPACT, UM, THEIR LIFE? THAT, THAT WILL CERTAINLY BE A, A HOT TOPIC AT THAT MEETING.
BUT TO, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, UM, THE DRIVEWAYS WILL HAVE TO BE UTILIZED, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE, THERE'S THE SIDEWALK FOR THAT.
THE INTENT IS TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK CURB, UH, ONE TO TWO FEET OFF THE WHITE LINE.
SO IT'S NOT GONNA LEND ITSELF TO PARKING ON THE STREET.
IT'S, IT PHYSICALLY WILL NOT BE POSSIBLE.
UM, AND WHILE IT WILL BE IN INCONVENIENCE FOR SOME, UM, AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE BALANCING THE SAFETY AND, YOU KNOW, AS WE ALL KNOW, AND YOU SEE RESIDENTS WALKING ON THE SHOULDER OF THE ROAD, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST FLAT OUT NOT SAFE.
SO, UM, WHERE ARE WE TALKING? UM, THERE, THERE IS INDEED OFF STREET PARKING THAT OCCURS ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF, UH, DOBBS FERRY ROAD.
AND THE SIDEWALK, UM, WILL ELIMINATE THAT IN THE FUTURE.
UH, AND IT'S UNAVOIDABLE CIRCUMSTANCE.
ON DOBS FERRY ROAD? NO, WHAT THAT DOES PUTS RESIDENTS RISK IN FURTHER INTO THE STREET.
UH, THE NEXT THING I WANTED TO JUST BRING UP, UM, UM, IS, UM, UM, THE, THERE'S A GROUP, IT'S A GROUP OF SENIOR CITIZENS.
UM, THEY, THEY CALL THEMSELVES THE OLD GUARD.
UM, AND, UM, UH, LLOYD COURT'S A MEMBER, UH, THERE'S, I'VE SPOKEN TO THEM LIKE TWICE.
THEY HAVE ASKED IF THEY COULD MEET HERE, UM, DURING THE DAY IN THE AUDITORIUM, UH, THEY GET ABOUT 80 PE UP TO 80 PEOPLE.
UM, THEN THEY USUALLY HAVE, UH, LIKE, YOU KNOW, LUNCH, IT'S LIKE A VERY INTELLECTUAL, YOU KNOW, GROUP OF, UH, SENIORS.
THEY'RE PROBABLY AROUND, UM, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES, AND SOME PEOPLE ARE IN THE NINETIES.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT IF WE TOOK LIKE A DAY OF THE WEEK, I MEAN, THIS AUDITORIUM'S NOT USED, UH, YOU KNOW, USUALLY DURING THE WEEK, YOU KNOW, DURING THE WEEK, DURING THE DAYTIME.
UM, AND IF WE SAID WE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULDN'T DO IT ON A TUESDAY, WHEN THEY SAY AN ELECT WHERE THERE COULD BE ELECTIONS, UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO IT ON SAY, A THURSDAY OR ON A FRIDAY OR A WEDNESDAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S NOT USED.
I THINK IT WOULD BE A, A NICE THING TO DO.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT, UM, IT WOULD BE AN ADDITION, AN ENHANCEMENT FOR SENIOR PROGRAMMING, BECAUSE SOME OF THE SENIORS, THEY WANT MORE THAN BRIDGE.
THEY WANT TO HAVE LIKE INTELLECTUAL CONVERSATIONS.
SO THERE'S FREE PARKING AND SOME OF THE, UM, HIGHLY MOTIVATED AND INTELLIGENT SENIORS WHO, UM, WHO LIVE IN THE TOWN WOULD, WOULD REALLY BENEFIT FROM THIS.
UM, IT'S A COUNTYWIDE GROUP, IS IT? IT'S A COUNTYWIDE GROUP WITH A LOT OF, IT'S A WHITE GROUP, A LOT GREEN.
NO, IT'S, IT'S A LOT OF GREENBERG, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE.
BUT WE'VE, WE'VE MADE THIS AUDITORIUM AVAILABLE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, GROUPS IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, DURING THE DAYTIME, YOU KNOW, SOME IN, UH, THE ASSEMBLY.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HOW OFTEN, I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY I, I THINK THEY MEET ONCE A WEEK.
UH, BUT YOU KNOW, WE COULD TRY IT OUT AND THEN I'M SURE THAT IT WOULD BE EXTREMELY POPULAR.
WE NEED TO, YEAH, WE NEED TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT AND FAVOR THE RISK AND ALL THAT.
ALRIGHT, SO WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THIS.
THE EMAIL STATED THAT THEY CURRENTLY PLAY PAY RENT SOMEPLACE.
EACH OF THE MEMBERS PAYS $250 A YEAR MEMBERSHIP.
SO THEY'RE COLLECTING ABOUT $20,000 IN MEMBERSHIP FEES.
UM, AND AS THE EMAIL STATES THAT IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY RENT WHERE THEY'RE PAYING NOW, UM, IT WOULDN'T COST THEM SO MUCH.
AND THEY'RE RIGHT NOW RUNNING A DEFICIT BECAUSE OF THEIR RENT PAYMENTS.
UM, BUT WE COULD RENT, UH, RENT IT AT A LOWER PRICE THAN WHAT THEY'RE PAYING NOW.
THEY'RE USING THE, THE ETHICAL SOCIETY FOR THEIR MEETINGS.
HAVE TO DO YOU EXPLAIN HOW TO PROCESS? I, I WOULD NEED TO DO MORE RESEARCH ON IT, BUT FROM WHAT
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I UNDERSTAND, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST, YOU CAN'T GIVE PUBLIC FACILITIES FOR LESS THAN THEIR ACTUAL COST.SO YOU'D HAVE TO RENT IT AT THE FAIR MARKET VALUE.
AND IT WOULD ALSO HAVE TO BE OPEN TO ANY GROUP WHO WOULD LIKE TO USE THE FACILITIES.
BUT I COULD DO MORE RESEARCH ON IT AS WELL.
AND WHAT TIME IS THE PERSON COMING ON ZOOM? I CLOSE.
UM, BUT SEVEN 15 WAS THE MOTION.
WE HAVE SCHEDULED FOR THE MOTION SEVEN FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
SO LET'S JUST GET THROUGH THE AGENDA REVIEW, OR YOU WANNA DO IT VIA EMAIL? BY EMAIL? YEAH, YOU, LET'S DO IT BY EMAIL.
PAUL, YOU HAVE A MOTION? PAUL, YOU HAVE A MOTION? OH, WE WE'RE GONNA DO THE AGENDA REVIEW BY EMAIL BECAUSE WE HAVE SOMEBODY WAITING.
DO YOU WANNA CALL FOR THE PAUL PAUL? UM, AS THE PERSON PRESIDING OVER THE MEETING, I JUST WANT TO KNOW, I'M ASKING YOU WHY ISN'T THE RESOLUTION REGARDING, UM, NAMING THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE THEATER AT DE YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, THE BARBARA WATSON PRAIRIE EXTENSION.
WHY ISN'T THAT ON HERE? THE BOARD? UH, I SPOKE, I SUBMITTED IT.
I SPOKE TO, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, JOAN, YESTERDAY SHE CALLED ME JOAN AND JOAN, YOU KNOW, FROM, UH, JOAN DOAK.
AND SHE SAID THAT, UH, THE BOARD, UH, ASKED IF, UH, SO THAT THE POLICY WAS, THEY WANTED TO DISCUSS IT FIRST, AND THEN, UH, THE BOARD WOULD THAT AFTER THEY DISCUSS IT, THEN THEY WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, MAKE A RECOMMENDATION AND THEN THEY COULD DO A RESOLUTION.
SO THE, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, YOU KNOW, TO HAVE THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, JUST FOLLOW THE PROCEDURE WE USE FOR, UH, FOR, FOR, FOR NAMING, UH, ROOMS OR FACILITIES FOR PEOPLE.
THERE IS NO ESTABLISHED PROCEDURE.
UM, THERE, THERE IS, THERE'S, THERE, THERE ISN'T ONE.
YEAH, WE, WE, THE, THE, THE TOWN HAS, YOU KNOW, NO FORMAL, UM, UH, PROCESS OR PROCEDURE, UH, IN WRITING.
AND, UM, THERE IS ALSO A REQUEST TO NAME, UM, BEACH STREET BETWEEN MANHATTAN AVENUE AND WASHINGTON AVENUE.
WELL, THESE ARE THINGS THAT THE, THE BOARD, BASICALLY WE NEED THREE VOTES ON THE TOWN BOARD TO APPROVE ANYTHING.
SO, SO THE THING IS THAT THE BOARD WANTS TO HAVE A TIME TO REFLECT ON IT AND DISCUSS IT, AND THEN PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
I, I JUST WANT THAT, I WOULD MAKE, I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW THAT THE RECOMMENDATION TO NAME THE SECOND FLOOR OF THEODORE DE YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, THE BARBARA WATSON PRAIRIE EXTENSION, UM, CAME AS A RECOMMENDATION IN SUPPORT.
THE, THE, HER FAMILY SUPPORTED THE RECOMMENDATION AS WELL AS TERRENCE JACKSON, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
BARBARA WATSON PRAIRIE WAS THE FIRST WOMAN AND FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMISSIONER FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND SHE WAS SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE, UM, CLOSE TO $3 MILLION THAT WAS, UM, MADE AVAILABLE, UH, TO EX, UM, DEVELOP THAT SECOND FLOOR.
AND THERE SHOULD BE NO REASON, NO REASON FOR THERE TO BE ANY OBJECTION OR EVEN ANY HESITATION TO GIVE HONOR AT, TO HER NAME, WITH RESPECT TO THAT SECOND FLOOR OF THE THEODORE DE YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND, UM, I, I, I, I JUST THINK THAT THIS IS NOTHING BUT, UM, CHILDISH BEHAVIOR ON THE PART OF, OF THE TOWN BOARD TO THWART AN EFFORT THAT I AM TRYING TO LAUNCH, UM, IN A, UH, ELECTION YEAR.
UM, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S RIDICULOUS.
THERE IS NO REASON ELECTION YEAR WHY THERE IS NO REASON WHY THAT SECOND FLOOR, THERE IS NO REASON WHY THE EFFORT CANNOT BE MOVED FORWARD.
TO NAME THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE THEATER DE YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, THE BARBARA WATSON PRAIRIE EXTENSION, OR THE SIDE STREET, BEACH STREET BETWEEN MANHATTAN AVENUE AND WASHINGTON
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AVENUE, BARBARA WATSON, PRAIRIE WAY.I I I DEFINITELY SUPPORT, UH, THE, THE SECOND FLOOR, BECAUSE I WORKED WITH BARBARA ON THE SECOND.
WELL, THAT PAUL, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
WE ALL, WE ALL, WE, WE, WE, WE POINT NO ONE, NO ONE, NO ONE.
WE REALLY NEED TO, WE REALLY NEED TO, NO ONE IS OPPOSING, NO ONE IS OPPOSING RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THERE'S NOBODY'S, NO ONE'S OPPOSING THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT NO ONE, BUT NEITHER, NEITHER IS WE'RE, YEAH, BUT WE'RE NOT, BUT WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, THERE'S, THERE HAS BEEN NO PROPOSED TIMELINE HERE.
USUALLY, USUALLY, EXCUSE ME, PAUL, MY COMMENT IS TO YOU, THE PERSON WHO PRESIDES OVER LEGALLY, LEGALLY, YOU PRESIDE OVER THE MEETING.