[ TOWN of GREENBURGH East-West Hartsdale TAP Grant Presentation Meeting 177 HILLSIDE AVENUE, WHITE PLAINS, NY 10607 ]
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I'M THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
IT'S THE EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE CORRIDOR.
PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH A TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM GRANT THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG RECEIVED.
I WANT YOU HAVE THE AUDIO ON LEFT.
RECORDING STOPPED, RIGHT? IS SOMEONE HAVE, I'M JUST GONNA HAVE AUDIO MUTE.
CAN YOU DO A TEST THEN TO TEST FOR ECHO? SOUNDS GOOD.
I'M THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
I'M THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT'S HERE IN ATTENDANCE.
I KNOW THERE'S, UH, MANY WATCHING ON LIVESTREAM AND ON CABLE ACCESS, AND ALSO WE APPRECIATE EVERYONE THAT'S HERE ON ZOOM.
UH, I REALLY APPRECIATE OUR TOWN BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE HERE.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, SUPERVISOR PAUL FINER COUNCILWOMAN ELLEN HENDRICKS, COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON, COUNCILMAN FRANCIS SHEEN, NOT IN ATTENDANCE.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE HIS SUPPORT AS THE WHOLE TOWN BOARD HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF THIS WHOLE PROCESS IN, UH, REIMAGINING EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE AS A SAFER SPACE.
WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR TONIGHT IS TO TALK AND HEAR ABOUT, UH, THE PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS OF EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE IN WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE THAT ARE ATTRIBUTED TO A GRANT THAT THE TOWN RECEIVED IN 2021.
UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO THOUGH, IS SET THE STAGE WITH A BIT OF, UH, TIMELINES.
JUST TO LET YOU KNOW HOW WE GOT TO THIS POINT.
UH, BACK IN 2018, UH, WE HAD A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS WHERE RESIDENTS, UH, REACHED OUT TO THE TOWN BOARD AND EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO SORT OF, UH, TAKE A FRESH LOOK AT THE FOUR CORNERS CORRIDOR AND SEE FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE IF THERE COULD BE A HIGHER AND BETTER LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE CORRIDOR.
AND WHAT THAT PROCESS, UH, EVOLVED INTO WAS A LAND USE DOCUMENT THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE TOWN BOARD.
AND IT'S A SUPPLEMENT TO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT, UH, ENVISIONS FOUR CORNERS AS A MIXED USE, VIBRANT, UH, DOWNTOWN, UM, NODE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND THAT WAS ADOPTED IN 2019 WITH, UH, BROAD COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
AND WHAT THAT COMPELLED WAS THE TOWN TO FOLLOW UP WITH LOOKING AT THE STORMWATER AND TRAFFIC, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA.
AND THE TOWN BOARD, UH, AUTHORIZED THE SURFACES OF A PROFESSIONAL PLANNING AND ENGINEERING CONSULTANT.
AND WHAT WE DID IN THE YEARS 2020 THROUGH TWO 2021, WE WORKED WITH A K R F WHO TOOK A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC NETWORK AND AGAIN, THE FLOODING ISSUES ALONG EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
UM, AND THE WORK THAT THEY DID CONCEPTUALIZE TWO MAJOR IMPROVEMENT CONCEPTS ALONG EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
AND THOSE WERE THE CONCEPT OF AN ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEM, WHICH WAS A, A SERIES OF, UM, REDESIGNED AND, AND NEWLY IMPLEMENTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS FROM FOUR CORNERS TO THE HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION.
AND THEN A K R F, UM, ENVISIONED A SERIES OF PEDESTRIAN ENHANCEMENTS, UH, IN FROM FOUR CORNERS AGAIN TO THE TRAIN STATION, UH, AT THE KEY INTERSECTIONS IN THAT SPAN.
AND WHAT THAT STUDY LED TO, WHICH WE DID HAVE PUBLIC PRESENTATIONS IN THE YEAR 2021, WAS, UH, A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.
AND WHAT HAPPENED IS, IN 2021, UH, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCED WHAT'S CALLED THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE WORK THAT A K R F DID IN SORT OF CONCEPTUALIZING IMPROVEMENTS ALONG EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UM, REALLY PAINTED A PICTURE OF HOW WE SHOULD APPROACH THAT GRANT PROCESS.
AND WE UTILIZED THAT STUDY TO APPLY FOR THE FEDERAL FUNDING.
AND WE ALSO COMBINED THAT WITH THE CONCEPT FOR THE LONGSTANDING NEED FOR A SIDEWALK UP WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
AND WITH THOSE THREE ELEMENTS, WE APPLIED FOR A TAP GRANT, AND WE AS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, WERE SUCCESSFUL IN OBTAINING A $5 MILLION GRANT IN SEPTEMBER, 2021.
IT'S THE LARGEST GRANT YOU CAN GET UNDER THAT PROGRAM.
AND SINCE THAT TIME, UM, WE WERE AWARDED THE GRANT ABOUT NINE MONTHS LATER.
AND, UM, THE PROCESS IS SUCH THAT YOU GO OUT AND YOU HIRE A, A, A CIVIL ENGINEER TO, UM, HELP DESIGN THE PROJECT THAT YOU APPLIED FOR.
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IN 2022, WE HIRED BARTON LEG, JUDAS, OUR PROFESSIONALS THAT ARE HERE TONIGHT, THEY ACTUALLY WERE ABLE TO, UH, USE THE SERVICES OF A K R F ONCE AGAIN AS A SUB.SO IT WAS A GOOD COLLABORATIVE, UH, COHESIVE, UM, PROCESS.
AND ALL OF THIS YEAR THEY'VE BEEN REALLY TAKING, UH, A LOOK AT THE CONCEPTUAL PLANS THAT I JUST DESCRIBED AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONDUCTED SURVEYS AND REALLY DONE THE WORK TO ACTUALLY GET THIS PROJECT TOWARDS SHOVEL READY.
UM, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA HEAR TONIGHT IS WHERE THEY'RE AT AN UPDATE ON THE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THE FORMAT OF TONIGHT IS SUCH THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA PRESENT EAST HARSDALE AVENUE AS A CONCEPT AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE A BREAK AND HEAR COMMENTS FROM RESIDENTS THAT ARE HERE AND ON ZOOM.
AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY.
AND YOU CAN RAISE COMMENTS, QUESTIONS, WHATEVER YOU PREFER.
AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, WE'RE GOING TO GO INTO WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, DISCUSS THE SIDEWALK, AND THEN TAKE A BREAK AND TAKE QUESTIONS ON THAT.
I REALLY THANK EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE.
AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO NOW IS TURN IT OVER TO PETER CHRISTIANO OF, UH, B AND L.
ALRIGHT, SO I'M GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN HERE SO EVERYONE AT HOME CAN SEE AND ALSO IN PERSON.
SO AS GARRETT SAID, ALL RIGHT, IT SHOULD BE COMING UP NOW.
SO THIS IS EAST WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE CORRIDOR PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, UH, PIN 87, 62 90.
SO GARRETT DID A GREAT JOB OF DOING INTRODUCTIONS.
GARRETT DID A GREAT JOB OF INTRODUCTIONS.
UM, TO DATE, WE'VE WORKED WITH THE SUPERVISOR AND, AND GARRETT AND ALSO MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DEPARTMENT.
SO WE'VE HAD SOME INVOLVEMENT WITH JUST ABOUT EVERYONE SO FAR IN THE TOWN.
SOME BRIEF INTRODUCTIONS OF OURSELVES.
I HAVE TOM BAIRD HERE FROM B AND L.
SO MIKE AND MARISSA AND ELAINE AS, AS GARRETT SAID, HAS, HAS HAD A PRETTY BIG INVOLVEMENT SO FAR WITH THE PROJECT TO DATE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN WE HIRED THEM AS A SUB, AS THE SPON, UH, AS THE, UM, UH, THE LEAD ON THIS PROJECT FOR B AND L.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE INVOLVED WITH THE PROJECT MANAGEMENT OF A K R F, ALL OF OUR OTHER SUBS, INCLUDING OUR, OUR SURVEY SUB, UH, CIVIL TECH ENGINEERING.
AND OUR ROLE IS PUBLIC OUTREACH, YOU KNOW, RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITIONS AND EASEMENTS, WHEREVER THOSE MAY NEED, MAY BE NEEDED.
UH, AND THEN EVENTUALLY CONSTRUCTION AND THE INSPECTION SERVICES.
SO A BRIEF AGENDA, WE'RE JUST GONNA KIND OF RUN THROUGH THE PURPOSE, YOU KNOW, OBJECTIVES, WHAT OUR PROJECT LIMITS ARE, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE TO DATE WITH THE TIMELINE, AND GO INTO SOME EXISTING DATA AND ALSO OUR ALTERNATIVES.
AND THEN OPEN IT UP TO SOME Q AND A.
UM, THE, THE P D F OF THIS SLIDE DECK WILL BE AVAILABLE, UM, FOR DISTRIBUTION IF NEED BE, BUT IT IS, IT IS ON THE WEBSITE AND BEING BROADCASTED RIGHT NOW, SO EVERYONE IS ABLE TO SEE THAT IN REAL TIME.
SO WHY ARE WE HERE? UM, BASICALLY TO DISCUSS THE PROJECT, OBVIOUSLY, UM, KIND OF GET INTO THE HISTORY, WHICH, WHICH GARRETT DID A GREAT JOB OF.
SO I'M NOT GONNA REITERATE ANY OF THAT, BUT GO OVER SOME OF THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT OUR TEAM HAS COLLECTED SO FAR.
YOU KNOW, WHAT WE FOUND OUT WITH OUR SURVEY AND ENVIRONMENTAL CULTURAL RESOURCES, INVESTIGATIONS, OBVIOUSLY TALK ABOUT THE ALTERNATIVES THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR ON EAST AND WEST HARTSDALE, AND THEN MAINLY RECEIVE SOME PUBLIC INPUT FROM EVERYONE.
UM, AND THEN WHAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS WE CAN DO THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE CORRIDOR.
SO RIGHT NOW, THE CORRIDOR IS, IS VEHICLE CENTRIC.
I, I THINK EVERYONE KNOWS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SPEEDING.
UH, A LOT OF VEHICLES WANNA MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS THAT MAKE IT MORE CONDUCIVE FOR PEDESTRIAN TRAVEL, PROVIDE SOME QUALITY OF LIFE BENEFITS THAT EVERYONE COULD BENEFIT FROM BY REDUCING THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE TRIPS.
POTENTIALLY HAVING PEOPLE, UH, GIVE, GIVE PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT GET IN THEIR VEHICLE AND TO WALK, YOU KNOW, REDUCE THOSE SHORTER TRIPS.
UM, AND THEN ALSO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS, THIS WILL COMPLEMENT THE, THE TRANSIT ORIENTED DESIGN THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE TOWN.
I KNOW THERE'S THE, THE HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION, THERE'S THE BUS ROUTE.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER WE DO IS, IS GOING TO BENEFIT AND COMPLEMENT THOSE EXISTING SERVICES.
SO ULTIMATELY OUR, OUR GOAL IS TO IMPROVE SAFETY AND IMPROVE TRAFFIC FLOW
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WITH, WITH WHAT WE'RE PLANNING HERE.SO WHERE ARE OUR PROJECT LIMITS? EAST HARTSDALE FROM AQUEDUCT TO THE FOUR CORNERS.
AND THEN WEST HARTSDALE FROM THE FOUR CORNERS TO PAC CAPONE ROAD.
AT PAC CAPONE, THERE'S THREE SCHOOLS UP THERE.
THERE'S EXISTING SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE WANT TO CONNECT FROM PAC CAPONE DOWN TO THE FOUR CORNERS.
OBVIOUSLY THERE'S EXISTING SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG EAST HARTSDALE, SO WE WANT TO IMPROVE THAT.
SO THERE ARE SOME DEFICIENCIES, I'M SURE EVERYONE HAS SEEN OUT THERE.
MAYBE IT'S DETECTABLE WARNING UNITS AT THE, THE CROSSWALKS, MAYBE THE STRIPINGS NOT THERE.
UM, WE DO KNOW THERE ARE SOME LONGER CROSSWALK LENGTHS RIGHT NOW.
THE LESS WE CAN HAVE PEOPLE EXPOSED TO TRAFFIC OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, THE BETTER.
UM, PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC SIGNAL INFRASTRUCTURE IS, IS A, A BIG COMPONENT ON THE EAST HARTSDALE SIDE.
UM, AND I'LL HAVE MIKE AND ELAINE TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE ADAPTIVE, WHICH WOULD IMPROVE, UM, THE MOVEMENT OF VEHICLES THROUGH THE CORRIDOR.
AND THEN MORE WEST HARTSDALE IS PROVIDING THAT CONTINUOUS CONNECTION FROM THOSE KNOWN PEDESTRIAN, UH, ROUTES OR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE ALREADY HAVE.
SO GARRETT DID A GREAT JOB OF KIND OF EXPLAINING OUR TIMELINE TO DATE.
I'M NOT GONNA GO BACK TOO MUCH INTO THAT.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE SCREEN KIND OF WHAT'S BEEN DONE.
UH, WE GOT ON B AND L WAS ON BOARD, YOU KNOW, IN 2022.
AND SINCE THEN WE'VE CONDUCTED DETAILED GROUND SURVEY.
UM, CIVIL TECH ENGINEERING, OUR SUB HAS, HAS GONE OUT, YOU MAY HAVE SEEN THEM IN THE DECEMBER, JANUARY, FEBRUARY TIMEFRAME.
SO THEY WERE DOING A DETAILED GROUND SURVEY COLLECTING, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE TOPOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION, HIGHWAY BOUNDARY LINES, UM, YOU KNOW, DETAILED MEETS AND BOUND SURVEY, UM, COLLECTION OF UTILITIES.
WE HAD GROUND PENETRATING RADAR, UM, A PROCESS THAT ALLOWED US TO SEE BASICALLY WHAT UNDERGROUND INFRASTRUCTURE IS THERE WITHOUT DIGGING IT UP.
UM, SO MORE IN THE, THE SPRINGTIME, OUR ENVIRONMENTAL TEAM WAS OUT THERE.
UH, WE DID A COUPLE SITE VISITS.
THEY'VE DONE SOME DESKTOP SURVEYS, FISH AND WILDLIFE, AND PUT TOGETHER REPORTS, UH, RELATED TO THE WETLAND, UM, THE BIRDS, THE BEES, KIND OF ALL OF ALL OF THAT INFORMATION.
OBVIOUSLY TONIGHT WE'RE HERE, YOU KNOW, OCTOBER PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING.
AND THEN THE BLUE TEXT IS KIND OF WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US, YOU KNOW, WITH OUR PRELIMINARY DESIGN.
SOME SIM, SOME MILESTONE SUBMISSIONS THAT ARE COMING UP, UM, WITH ULTIMATELY CONSTRUCTION ANTICIPATED IN THE 2025 TIMEFRAME.
YOU'RE GOING TO BE GIVING US A HARD COPY OF THIS ALSO, RIGHT? UH, AT, YEAH, I CAN PROVIDE, DISTRIBUTE, ABSOLUTELY.
COULD YOU JUST GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS SLIDE? 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING AND WE'RE ONLY DOING SOMETHING IN RESPONSE TO A RECENT DEATH ON THE AVENUE.
COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE GRAY OUT AREA AS WELL TO SHOW WHEN DID WE START WORKING ON THIS AND WHAT HAS HAPPENED? IN OTHER WORDS, YOU PASSED OVER 2019, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED OVERNIGHT.
UH, OUR TEAMMATES, A K F, UM, WAS PART OF THE EAST HARSDALE PEDESTRIAN AND TRAFFIC IMPROVEMENT STUDY.
AND THAT WAS, THEY STARTED GATHERING DATA IN THE 2019, UH, FALL 2019 TIMEFRAME.
YOU KNOW, DURING C O V THINGS MAYBE SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT, BUT THEY ULTIMATELY PROVIDED, UH, THEIR FINDINGS IN JUNE, 2021 AND ULTIMATELY HELPED THE TOWN WITH A GRANT APPLICATION FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND FROM THERE, THAT'S WHERE THE TOWN WAS AWARDED THE TAP FUNDING AND PROCEEDED TO WORK WITH A D O T ON CONTRACTS.
AND ULTIMATELY THE CONSULTANT SELECTION PROCESS WAS LAST FALL AND THE NOVEMBER, 2022.
UM, I DUNNO, THAT KIND OF, KIND OF DISCUSSED A LITTLE BIT THERE.
AND IT'S BEEN A FEW WEEKS SINCE YOU SUBMITTED THE DRAFT, UM, YOUR DRAFT PRESENTATION TO GARRETT KAIN.
SO IT WAS AT ABOUT THE SAME TIME OR JUST BEFORE THE ACCIDENT? IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, ACTUALLY, UM, QUITE BEFORE WE, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN SHARING, UM, IDEAS AND COMING TO US.
WE, WE INVOLVED THE, INVOLVED THE, UM, POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, THE, UH, FIRE DISTRICT VERY EARLY ON.
SO WE'RE ACTUALLY ALMOST FROM THE START OF THEIR PROCESS, WE'VE LOOP IN A NUMBER OF, UM,
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UH, PROFESSIONALS.SO IT'S BEEN ONGOING ALL THIS YEAR.
THE FEDERAL PROCESS REQUIRES ALL OF, REQUIRES ALL OF THIS, THIS TYPE OF INVOLVEMENT WITH THE PROJECT.
SO THE, THE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION, ALL OF THE INVESTIGATION FOR THE ENVIRONMENTAL, UM, CULTURAL RESOURCES, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THIS IS DOCUMENTED IN A DESIGN APPROVAL, UH, REPORT.
SO COORDINATION WITH, WITH NEPA, IT'S A NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL POLICY ACT THAT MAKES SURE, OR YOU'RE, YOU'RE DOING ALL OF, ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS TO RECEIVE THE FEDERAL REIMBURSEMENT.
SO WE CAN'T JUST, WE CAN'T SKIP ANY OF THAT BECAUSE THE TOWN WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET REIMBURSED FOR THEIR, THEIR FEDERAL, UH, GRANT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SEEKER, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, THREATENED ENDANGERED SPECIES.
WE HAVE A, A TEAM THAT GOES OUT AND THEY, THEY DO THEIR DESKTOP SURVEYS, THEIR SITE SURVEYS, AND THEY ALL DOCUMENT THIS IN REPORTS THAT'S ULTIMATELY COMPILED IN THAT DESIGN APPROVAL DOCUMENT THAT'S SUBMITTED TO THE D O T AND ULTIMATELY THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION.
AND ULTIMATELY THE FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION, YOU KNOW, REVIEWS THAT AND, AND CHECKS OFF THAT.
WE'VE DONE ALL OF OUR DUE DILIGENCE, UM, AND IS ABLE TO MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP.
WE CAN'T MOVE PAST PRELIMINARY DESIGN UNTIL WE, WE DO ALL OF THIS DOCUMENTATION AND THEY AGREE WITH WHAT WE HAVE.
SO, AS GARRETT SAID, THERE'S A $5 MILLION GRANT FROM, FROM THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM, THE TOWN COMMITTED, UM, I THINK IT WAS 2020 2021, UM, AS PART OF THEIR TOWN SHARE.
SO I HAD THAT BROKEN DOWN, $2.3 MILLION, GIVE OR TAKE.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE BREAKDOWN ROUGHLY OF THE DESIGN FEE, WHAT WE ANTICIPATE FOR RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION, INCIDENTAL PHASES, UH, AND ULTIMATELY CONSTRUCTION.
AND THE, THE REQUIRED INSPECTION THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE FEDERAL, UM, AS PART OF THE FEDERAL PROCESS.
I THOUGHT THE TOWN'S SHARE IS BASED UPON THE 5 MILLION.
NOW YOU'RE ADDING 2 MILLION TO 5 MILLION, IS THAT CORRECT? SO IT'S REALLY A 7 MILLION PROJECT.
IT IS, THERE'S AN 80 20 BREAKDOWN.
SO THE, THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT FOR THE TAP GRANT IS $5 MILLION.
SO THE TOWN IS ON THE HOOK FOR 20% OF THAT.
SO THAT COMES OUT TO, UM, EXCUSE ME ONE SEC.
YEAH, THE, THE, UH, THIS IS TOM FROM BARTON LA JUDAS.
AND THE $5 MILLION INCLUDES A $1 MILLION CONTRIBUTION FROM THE TOWN ON THAT FOR THE, THE 20%.
UM, THE PROJECT WILL COST A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 5 MILLION.
SO THE TOWN IS PAYING THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING.
'CAUSE THE MAXIMUM CAP ON THE FUNDING IS 5 MILLION.
BUT WE CAN BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR YOU LATER ON IN THE QUESTION AND ANSWERS TOWARDS THE END.
AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THOUGH, IT SAYS WE HAVE A $5 MILLION GRANT.
THE TOWN A IS 1 MILLION IN ADDITION TO THE 5 MILLION OR 1 MILLION UP.
YEAH, I, I CAN TAKE THIS QUESTION, BUT WE DO WANNA HOLD QUESTIONS TILL THE END.
UH, ULTIMATELY THE TOWN, THE TOWN IS MATCHING 2.3.
UM, WITH FI IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A $7.3 MILLION PROJECT.
5 MILLION FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, 2.3 FROM THE TOWN.
AND IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, BECAUSE BY THE TIME CONSTRUCTION, WE WE'RE NOT LOCKED INTO ANY, UM, CONTRACTS YET.
AND THAT NUMBER CAN GO UP OR DOWN DEPENDING ON WHATEVER, UM, CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE AT THE TIME THAT THE PROJECT IS AWARDED, YOU KNOW, WITHIN WHAT, IN GENERAL, WE HAVE QUITE A LONG PROGRAM, SO I, I, IF WE COULD HOLD OUR QUESTIONS TILL THE END, THAT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
SO I THINK I'LL, I'M GONNA PASS IT OVER TO, UH, ELAINE FROM A K R F TO DISCUSS SOME OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
MY NAME IS ELAINE DEW FROM A K R F.
UH, I WANNA TAKE IT BACK A LITTLE BIT TO WHAT TOM, UH, TO WHAT PETE SPOKE ABOUT.
THIS IS ABOUT IMPROVING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, BUT ALSO IMPROVING TRAFFIC FLOW.
SO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE WOULD, WE WANT TO REMOVE THE PARTIAL SIGNAL AT LEWIS AVENUE.
AND THAT IS, UH, SIGNALED ONLY IN IF YOU'RE GOING TOWARD
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FOUR CORNERS.UH, SO IN THE WESTBOUND SLASH NORTHBOUND DIRECTION, WE WANNA TAKE THAT OUT AND INSTEAD INSTALL A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT ROCKLEDGE ROAD.
UH, THE NORTHERN SIDE OF ROCKLEDGE ROAD, WHICH YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE.
UM, AS PART OF THIS, WE'RE GOING TO BE UPGRADING THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL EQUIPMENT.
UM, THERE IS COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE SIGNALS RIGHT NOW, BUT THESE WILL BE UPGRADED.
UH, WE'LL ALSO BE UPGRADING THE SENSORS AND EVERYTHING.
SO WE AVOID THINGS LIKE, UH, FALSE CALLS FROM PARKED VEHICLES.
LIKE WE KNOW, UH, RIGHT BY THE GARAGE, THE TRAIN STATION GARAGE.
THERE ARE TRUCKS PARKED OUT THERE THAT CALL, UH, TRAFFIC SIGNALS THE ENTIRE DAY.
AND THAT'S BEEN A FRUSTRATION.
UM, WE'LL ALSO MOST IMPORTANTLY BE INSTALLING, UH, A T C S ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEMS. AND SO A T C S, UH, YOU ALSO KNOW THIS AS SMART SIGNALS.
UM, MOVING BACK JUST ONE SECOND.
SO YOU CAN SEE IN OUR GRAPHIC HERE, WE'RE TAKING OUT THAT SIGNAL AT, AT LEWIS, MOVING THAT SOUTH TO ROCKLEDGE SO THAT WE HAVE MORE EVEN SPACING SO THAT TRAFFIC IS ABLE TO FLOW A LITTLE BETTER.
AND THAT BY MOVING THESE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, WE'RE NORMALIZING TRAFFIC.
SO IN TERMS OF SMART SIGNALS, UH, SMART SIGNALS, UH, OR A T C S ARE BASED ON SENSORS.
SO WHAT THEY DO IS THEY ADJUST THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN REAL TIME.
UH, THEY'LL SENSE THAT A CAR IS THERE, THEY'LL SENSE HOW MANY CARS ARE THERE, AND THEY'LL CHANGE THE AMOUNT OF GREEN TIME SO THAT THEY'RE SERVING PEOPLE AT THE INTERSECTION.
AND THIS HELPS BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU'RE GOING DOWN TO THE TRAIN STATION, UM, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO HIT FEWER REDS BECAUSE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WILL KNOW THAT YOU'RE THERE AND IT'LL BETTER SERVE YOU.
UM, SO THIS DOES, WHAT IT DOES IS IT MINIMIZES DELAYS.
IT REDUCES THE NUMBER OF TIMES YOU'RE STOPPING ON EAST HARTSDALE, AND IT ALSO DECREASES YOUR OVERALL TRAVEL TIME.
AND I'LL NOW PASS IT OVER TO MIKE, UH, MY COLLEAGUE MIKE, TO GO THROUGH SOME OF THE DESIGNS STARTING AT THE TRAIN STATION AT AQUEDUCT.
UH, SO ONE OF THE THINGS, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S IMPORTANT IN EACH OF THESE INTERSECTIONS TO IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, UM, YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF THE SIMILAR DESIGN ELEMENTS.
'CAUSE REALLY WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS KIND OF THREE KEY THINGS.
SLOW DOWN VEHICLES, PROVIDE MORE SPACE FOR PEDESTRIANS THROUGH HARDSCAPES, I THINK SIDEWALKS.
AND THEN WE WANNA REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF EXPOSURE BETWEEN A VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN.
A LOT OF TIMES THAT'S DONE THROUGH SHORTEN THE CROSSWALK.
AND AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, YOU'LL SEE WHERE WE SHORTEN THOSE CROSSWALKS, PROVIDES BETTER VISIBILITY IN THE PS IN THE, IN THE RIGHT, IN THE ROADWAY FOR A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO I'M GONNA START AT AQUEDUCT ROAD AND GO UP TOWARDS, UH, FOUR CORNERS.
UM, THE THINGS I'LL POINT OUT, I GET MY MOUSE GOING.
UM, ONE THING IS, FROM WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS TODAY, THIS AREA BY ADUC ROAD IS CURRENTLY JUST STRIPED.
AND A LOT OF TIMES YOU SEE A LOT OF WEAVING OF VEHICLES TRYING TO GET OVER, BACK AND FORTH.
THERE'S CAUSING A LOT OF CONGESTION, LOTS OF PEDESTRIANS IN THE AREA.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, WE ARE HAVING A CONCEPT OF CREATING ACTUALLY A RACE ISLAND, THEREFORE PREVENTS VEHICLES FROM JOCKING FOR POSITION AS THEY COME UP TO EAST HARTSDALE AS PART OF THAT.
THE ISLAND HERE TODAY FOR PEDESTRIANS IS PRETTY SMALL WITH A LOT OF PAVEMENT THAT ISN'T REALLY USED FOR VEHICLES.
IT'S JUST LIKE AN OPEN SPACE AREA.
SO THIS ISLAND IN PINK THAT YOU SEE IS AN EXPANDED ISLAND OF WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY.
SO NOW THERE'S MORE SPACE FOR PRODUCTIONS TO QUEUE UP IN THE AREA VERSUS TODAY.
AND IF I WERE TO TAKE MY MOUSE, TODAY'S ISLAND IS ONLY THE SMALL SECTION RIGHT HERE.
SO THAT'S BEEN GREATLY EXPANDED.
AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS SHORTENING THE CROSSWALKS.
AND HERE'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA HEAR THE TERM.
A, A CURB, UM, PEDESTRIAN BULB OUT.
IF YOU LOOK ON THIS SIDE OF THE ROAD, YOU SEE THE SIDEWALK BULBS OUT INTO THE ROADWAY.
WHAT THAT DOES IS MY CROSSING DISTANCE HAS BEEN SHORTENED BY ALMOST EIGHT FEET.
AND IF YOU IMAGINE PARKED VEHICLES ALONG THE ROADWAY, THE PROBLEM WITH PARKED VEHICLES IS WHEN PEDESTRIANS BACK ON THE SIDEWALK, THEY DON'T SEE THEIR CAR, THE CARS DON'T SEE THEM, THE PEDESTRIAN NOW IS FURTHER ONTO THE ROADWAY THAT NOW CARS SEE THEM, THEY SEE VEHICLES SHORTER DISTANCE.
SO OVERALL THAT THE INTERSECTION OPERATES IN, IN A SAFER WAY.
AND SO AS WE GO THROUGH THESE, YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT COME UP QUITE A BIT AT ROCKLEDGE ROAD SOUTH.
THIS IS PROBABLY WHERE WE HAVE MORE OF OUR DRASTIC IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, A COUPLE THINGS TO NOTE TODAY IS THAT ALONG ROCKLEDGE ROAD, WE HAVE AN EXTREMELY LONG CROSSWALK THAT ALSO CONFLICTS WITH A, WHAT I CALL HIGH SPEED RIGHT TURN.
UM, THERE IS NO CROSSWALK TODAY ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
UM, AND THIS IS THE AREA WHERE SOMETIMES WE'LL GET SOME FALSE CALLS.
SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS WE'VE EXPANDED THE CURVE BULB BELT INTO THE CORNERS TO SHO THE CROSSINGS.
SO YOU CAN IMAGINE NOW SHORTER CROSSING, SHORTER CROSSING, SHORTER CROSSING BY CREATING THIS BULB OUT THIS RIGHT TURN, WHICH WAS A HIGH SPEED RIGHT
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TURN, IS NOW A MORE SLOWER RIGHT TURN SPEED.AND WE'VE TURNED UP THE INTERSECTION TO NOW ALLOW A NEW CROSSWALK.
SO NOW WE HAVE CROSSWALKS ON ALL FOUR APPROACHES TO GET THIS TO WORK.
THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES.
ROCKLEDGE ROAD TODAY IN THIS SECTION IS A TWO LANE IS A TWO-WAY ROADWAY.
YOU COULD GO UP ROCKLEDGE ROAD OR YOU GO DOWN ROCKLEDGE ROAD.
BY MAKING IT ONE WAY, WE HELP THIS SIGNAL IMPROVE BECAUSE IT'S ONE LESS, VE LESS APPROACH FOR VEHICLES TO HANDLE.
BUT WE CAN NOW MAKE THIS A TIGHTER SPACE.
SO IT'S A SHORTER PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.
SO WHAT DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF LIKE THE LARGER NEIGHBORHOOD TODAY FROM EAST HARTSDALE TO THIS PRIVATE ROAD? IT'S TWO WAY WE WOULD MAKE THIS ONE WAY, AND THEN THE REST OF THE SYSTEM AS IT IS TODAY IS ONE WAY.
SO FOR THE FEW VEHICLES THAT ARE PARKED HERE THAT TYPICALLY WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO GO OUT TO, UH, EAST HARTSDALE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO AROUND ROCKLEDGE ROAD TO A NEW SIGNAL THAT WOULD BE PLACED AT ROCKLEDGE ROAD NORTH.
TYPICALLY, YOU WOULDN'T MEET THE REQUIREMENTS FOR A SIGNAL THERE.
AS WE SHIFT THE VEHICLES FROM ROCKLEDGE ROAD SOUTH TO ROCKLEDGE ROAD NORTH, YOU MEET A SIGNAL WARRANT.
SO A SIGNAL CAN BE PLACED THERE, A BRAND NEW SIGNAL PROTECTION ACROSS WHICH SHOWING A SECOND, BUT YOU COULD SEE HOW THIS JUST THIS ONE SMALL CHANGE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A PRETTY LARGE IMPACT TO THIS INTERSECTION.
AS WE CONTINUE UP, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT ROCKLEDGE ROAD NORTH, THIS WOULD BE THE NEW SIGNAL.
AGAIN, YOU'LL SEE SIMILAR ELEMENTS, THE PEDESTRIAN BULB OUT SHORTEN THE CROSSING, GETTING THE PEDESTRIANS PAST THE PARKING LANE.
AND AGAIN, CARS THAT WERE COMING OUT ON ROCKRIDGE SOUTH WOULD COME OUT, ROCKRIDGE, ROCKLEDGE ROAD NORTH WITH A CENTRALIZED INTERSECTION.
SO PEDESTRIANS HAVE A CENTRALIZED CROSSING.
UM, AND AGAIN, A SHORTER CROSSWALK.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA TURN OVER TO P TO CONTINUE TALKING UP THE CORRIDOR AS WE GO TO FOUR CORNERS.
SO CONTINUING UP THE CORRIDOR.
SO LEWIS AND CATTERSON, UM, RIGHT NOW THERE'S AN EXISTING, UM, SIGNAL THERE THAT WOULD BE REMOVED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT THAT, THAT ELAINE MENTIONED EARLIER.
SO IT WOULD BE CONVERTED TO A MID-BLOCK CROSSING, UM, WITH A BULB OUT AS MIKE DISCUSSED.
SO THAT POSITIONS THE PEDESTRIANS, YOU KNOW, FARTHER OUT INTO THE INTERSECTION THAT THEY CAN S THEY'RE ABLE TO BE SEEN AND ALSO SEE VEHICLES.
SO THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS WITH THE MIDBLOCK CROSSINGS.
I KNOW THERE, THERE IS CURRENTLY A MIDBLOCK CROSSING ON EAST HARTSDALE RIGHT NOW WITH, WITH THE, UM, R R F B, SO THE, THE RAPID RED FLASHING BEACON.
UM, SO THAT IS AN ALTERNATIVE THAT COULD BE, COULD BE EMPLOYED HERE.
UM, I'LL, I'LL SHOW A COUPLE OTHER EXAMPLES IN A SECOND.
BUT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE IMPROVING THE, THE, UM, THE CURB RAMPS AT EACH OF THESE LOCATIONS AND, UH, MAKING THOSE MORE CONDUCIVE FOR, FOR PEDESTRIAN MOVEMENT.
SO BACK TO THE MIDBLOCK CROSSING.
SO THERE ARE SOME ALTERNATIVES.
UH, THE SHARK'S TEETH THAT ARE SHOWN HERE.
BASICALLY YIELD LINES SHOW WHERE VEHICLES WOULD NEED TO, TO YIELD TO PEDESTRIANS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN A BUTTON IS PUSHED, UH, WITH FLASHING FLASHING LIGHTS, THAT WOULD INDICATE TO THE MOTORIST THAT THERE'S PEDESTRIANS THAT WANT CROSS THE STREET.
UM, OTHER EX UH, CONTINUING WITH THAT IS THE, THE R R F B, UH, RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO A HAWK SIGNAL, UM, PEDESTRIAN HYBRID BEACON, WHICH IS A LITTLE MORE INVOLVED.
BUT, SO BASICALLY THERE'S, THERE'S EXAMPLES THAT I'M, THAT WE'RE SHOWING HERE THAT, UM, WILL BE INVESTIGATED FURTHER AND, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THE PUBLIC'S INPUT ON, ON THESE TO, TO REALLY, UH, COME UP WITH THE BEST SOLUTION THAT FITS, THAT FITS EVERYONE.
UM, CONTINUING UP THE CORRIDOR TO COLUMBIA RIGHT NOW IT'S A, IT'S A WIDE EXPANSIVE PAVEMENT ON COLUMBIA.
SO TO REDUCE THAT CROSSING LENGTH, WE'RE INTRODUCING A, UH, A MEDIAN ISLAND.
IT'D BE STAMPED CONCRETE OR SOMETHING MORE DECORATIVE.
SO BASICALLY YOU'RE REDUCING THAT CROSSWALK LENGTH.
UM, WE'VE GOT BALL BOUTS ON THE, THE WEST SIDE ON, ON BOTH SIDES OF THE INTERSECTION.
YOU'RE STILL ALLOWING FOR, YOU KNOW, DELIVERIES AND, AND VEHICLES TO, TO MAKE DROP OFFS FOR PEOPLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT IMPACTING PARKING ON, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE I HAVE MY MOUSE, YOU CAN SEE A VEHICLE PARKED IN THAT LOCATION, WE WOULD MOVE THAT SPOT.
SO WE WOULD HAVE A, A NET, UH, UH, NO DECREASE IN PARKING LOSS, UH, ON THE SIDE STREET, DOWN ON THE BOTTOM PART OF THE PAGE.
YOU KNOW, WE LOOKED AT VEHICLE TURNING MOVEMENTS AND, UM, GARBAGE TRUCKS AND THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT VEHICLES.
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THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND GOT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR VEHICLE LENGTHS AND HOW THOSE VEHICLES MANEUVER AROUND CURVES.AND WE, WE MODELED THAT THROUGH THIS, THIS INTERSECTION HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, POSITIONING OF THIS ISLAND WOULDN'T IMPACT THEIR, THEIR, UH, THEIR ACCESS TO EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE.
UH, AND ALSO IN THIS LOCATION, THE NEW SIGNAL WOULD BE, WOULD BE INCLUDED.
ONE LAST THING, JUST 'CAUSE WHEN WE GET OUT THERE, OTHER THING THAT WAS REALLY KEY TO NOTE WITH THIS ABOUT, UM, TODAY WHEN A VEHICLE WANTS TO TAKE A LEFT, THEY WILL TRY TO JUMP AS QUICKLY AS THEY CAN IN FRONT OF THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC BECAUSE IT'S WIDE ENOUGH TO DO IT.
THAT'S A HIGH SPEED TERM MOVEMENT.
BY HAVING THIS HERE, YOU FORCE A VEHICLE TO ACTUALLY DRIVE STRAIGHT AND THEN TAKE A SLOWER LEFT.
SO NOT ONLY IS IT SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS, BUT IT'S SAFER FOR THE VEHICLE THAT WAS TRYING TO BEAT THE THROUGH MOVEMENT, BECAUSE TODAY THERE'S PLENTY OF PAVEMENT TO CUT ACROSS.
SO THAT'S WHY THIS IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL TO HAVE FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND CLEAN UP THAT I'M GONNA LEAP THE QUEUE REAL QUICK, SO LET'S MAKE SURE.
SO CONTINUING TO THE LAST INTERSECTION ON EAST HARTSDALE BEFORE THE FOUR CORNERS IS WILSON.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE JUST SHOWING, YOU KNOW, IMPROVE, UH, STRIPING FOR CROSSWALKS.
AND AT THE, THE SOUTHERN SOUTHEASTERN CORNER OF THE INTERSECTION, A NEW CURB RAMP.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SOME PUBLIC COMMENT IN THIS LOCATION RELATED TO CROSSINGS.
UM, YOU COULD SEE WITH MY MOUSE ON THE SCREEN KIND OF IN THIS DIRECTION.
SO WE WILL CONTINUE LOOKING AT THIS LOCATION, UH, TO SEE HOW IT FITS POTENTIALLY WITH A MID-BLOCK CROSSING IT.
WE, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF, UH, A LOT OF PAVEMENT TO CROSS IN THIS LOCATION.
UH, SO THAT IS DEFINITELY A CONSIDERATION BEFORE, UM, BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION ON SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, SO IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THAT, UM, OTHER PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ELEMENTS THAT WE COULD EMPLOY ELSEWHERE IN THIS CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR SAFETY BOLLARDS AND THOSE COULD, COULD BE MORE DECORATIVE LOOKING, BUT ALSO FUNCTIONAL, UM, SECURITY PLANTERS, WHICH COULD BE AN OPTION AS WELL, WHICH, YOU KNOW, ADDS BEAUTIFICATION TO THE, THE CORRIDOR.
I KNOW STREET LIGHTING CAME UP IN A, AT A RECENT DISCUSSION, SO IT COULD BE LOW LEVEL LIGHTING OR SOMETHING MORE AERIAL, UH, LIKE ON ATTACHED ON POLES.
SO THOSE ARE A FEW THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STILL CONSIDERING AT THIS STAGE.
SO AT THIS POINT I THINK WE'LL OPEN IT UP MAYBE TO, YEAH, I JUST HAD ONE, UH, QUESTION.
UH, EITHER MICHAEL OR ELAINE OR ANYONE, COULD YOU JUST TOUCH ON THE ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEM AND WHAT THAT DOES IN TERMS OF EITHER, UM, LEVEL, GRADE LEVEL SERVICE OR PERCENTAGES OF PROJECTED, UH, BETTER FLOW AND HOW THAT INFLUENCES DRIVER AGGRESSION? UM, SO IN TERMS OF, UH, REDUCTION IN DELAY AND IMPROVEMENTS IN TRAFFIC, UH, IT, WE CAN'T SAY FOR CERTAIN EXACTLY A PERCENTAGE, BUT WE'VE SEEN A RANGES FROM, UH, FIVE, 10% TO, TO 50% OR MORE IN SOME CASES, DEPENDING ON THE EXISTING CONDITIONS.
UM, AT EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UNFORTUNATELY, THE, UH, UH, THE, I GUESS THE COORDINATION OF EACH TRAFFIC SIGNAL HAS DRIFTED OVER TIME.
SO RIGHT NOW WE KNOW IT'S NOT GREAT.
UH, SO WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS WE EXPECT TO SEE, UM, SOME PRETTY GOOD IMPROVEMENTS ALONG EAST HARTSDALE.
AND BECAUSE TRAVEL TIME ALONG THE CORRIDOR WILL BE REDUCED, IT MEANS THAT DRIVERS WILL BE LESS FRUSTRATED WHEN THEY'RE STUCK AT A RED AND LESS LIKELY TO TRY TO SPEED DOWN THE CORRIDOR TO GET DOWN TO THE TRAIN STATION.
INSTEAD, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH EACH INTERSECTION AT, UM, 25 MILES PER HOUR AT THE SPEED LIMIT AND GET DOWN TO THE TRAIN STATION, LIKELY WITH HITTING AS, UH, VERY FEW REDS OR MAYBE EVEN NO REDS.
UH, BUT OVERALL IT HELPS WITH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, NOT ONLY, UH, JUST REDUCING DRIVER AGGRESSION, BUT BY MOVING OUR TRAFFIC BY, BY ADDING A NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT NORTH ROCKLEDGE ROAD, UH, WE ALLOW PEDESTRIANS TO HAVE MORE CROSSING OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS WE'VE HAD A LOT OF COORDINATION WITH STATE D O T.
SO WHILE WE'RE ONLY SHOWING THE SIGNALS AND JUST SHOWING THE PRESENTATION, THESE WILL BE TIED INTO THE FOUR CORNER SIGNAL.
SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT RIGHT NOW, THAT SIGNAL'S PART OF THIS SYSTEM.
D O T IS ON BOARD WITH IT, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE GONNA REDUCE SOME OF THAT DRIVER FRUSTRATION AT THAT SIGNAL.
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO SKIP THE QUEUE TO TAKE THE LEFT.
THE A T C S SYSTEM IS GONNA REDUCE THAT, UM, QUEUING AND DELAY RIGHT THERE.
BUT STATE D O OT, WE'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH THEM, THEY'RE ON BOARD WITH IT.
SO JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS PART OF THE WHOLE QUARTER PACKAGE, NOT JUST ENDING AT COLUMBIA.
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WE, UM, YESTERDAY THE TOWN BOARD PASSED A RESOLUTION ASKING THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO AUTHORIZE, UM, RED LIGHT CAMERAS.UM, DO YOU FEEL THAT IF, UH, WE DO THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS IN CONJUNCTION WITH THIS, THAT IT COULD ALSO HELP, YOU KNOW, ADDRESS SOME OF THE SAFETY CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE HAVE? ABSOLUTELY.
AND I BELIEVE ALSO AS PART OF IT TOO, BESIDES JUST THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS, THESE HAVE THE ABILITY TO ALSO HAVE PREEMPTION.
SO IF AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE NEEDS TO GET DOWN THE STREET, THE CAPABILITIES ARE THERE TO NOW GIVE EMERGENCY VEHICLES THAT PREEMPTION.
SO THESE SIGNALS, THE TECHNOLOGY IS ADVANCING VERY QUICKLY, BUT WITH THAT, WITH THE CAMERAS, THE PREEMPTION AND THE AT T C S, WHICH ARE THE SMART SIGNALS, THE CORRIDOR SHOULD FUNCTION A LOT BETTER.
PACKAGE, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A, IT'S A NICE PACKAGE CORRIDOR AND THEY'VE BEEN DEPLOYED A LOT OF PLACES THAT WITH GREAT SUCCESS.
SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT'S, IT'S NEW TECHNOLOGY, BUT IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME IT'S EVER BEEN DEPLOYED.
SO WE HAVE A BUNCH OF PLACES IN NEW YORK STATE, D O T LOVES IT.
UM, SO IT'S WORKING OUT PRETTY WELL.
AND YOU KNOW, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH GARRETT ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO.
UM, WE ORIGINALLY WERE PLANNING TO, UH, DO THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THIS IN 2025.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF, UM, THE TRAGEDY THAT HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, UH, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO TO SEE IF WE COULD MOVE IT UP TO 2020, YOU KNOW, FOUR, DO YOU FEEL THAT IT'S POSSIBLE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF AFTER YOU GET INPUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS COULD HAPPEN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, WE'RE CERTAINLY GONNA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO MOVE UP THE TIMELINE.
UM, ONE OF THE, UH, CONSTRAINTS WITH THE TYPE OF FUNDING THAT IT HAS IS THERE'S A LOT OF REVIEW AND THE REVIEW FROM NEW YORK STATE D O T AND THEN THE FEDERAL HIGHWAYS AS WELL.
AND A LOT OF THE PROCESSES THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ARE NOT ABLE TO BE RUN PARALLEL TO, UH, INCREASE THE EFFICIENCY.
THEY'RE MORE LINEAR WHERE WE CAN, WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH ONE PORTION TO START THE NEXT ONE.
BUT WE ARE DEFINITELY ON BOARD AND ARE GOING TO BE MOVING THIS AS FAST AS WE CAN THROUGH THE PROCESS.
DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD BE DELAYED TO AFTER 2025? I KNOW THE HILLSIDE AVENUE SIDEWALK MM-HMM.
IT TOOK, YOU KNOW, IT BOTH WERE DELAYED, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR TWO.
UM, AND WE HAVE, THERE'S SOME STRIPS THROUGH THE CORRIDOR, UM, AND UH, WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS TRYING TO ELIMINATE EVERY ONE THAT WE CAN AND MINIMIZE ANY KIND OF IMPACTS THAT ARE MAJOR TO PROPERTIES TO TRY TO REDUCE THE SCHEDULE ON THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION PHASE.
WE ALSO HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT OF TRYING TO GET THE PROJECTS OUT TO BID.
THE BEST TIME TYPICALLY IS IN THE LATE FALL, EARLY WINTER, TRY TO BE BEFORE, BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
UM, AND SOMETIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, WE, WE GET, WE DELAY SOMETIMES TO GET THAT GOOD SEASON FOR CONSTRUCTION BIDS.
'CAUSE THE COSTS REALLY, UH, CAN BE VERY, VERY GREATLY IF YOU PUT IT OUT TO BID IN JUNE VERSUS YOU PUT IT OUT TO BID IN NOVEMBER.
SO, UM, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE'RE GONNA DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO EXPEDITE AND SPEED THE PROCESS UP.
UM, AND THAT INCLUDES A MEETING WE HAD WITH D O T TODAY ON HOW TO STREAMLINE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
UH, WE MET IN P IN POUGHKEEPSIE EARLIER, UH, TODAY, UH, WORKING OUT A STRATEGY TO IMPROVE THE, STREAMLINE THE PROCESS OF RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION.
UM, SO THAT'S PART OF THE, THE WHOLE ENTIRE PACKAGE.
SO WE'LL HAVE A REALLY GOOD IDEA ON, ON WHERE THE SCHEDULE'S GONNA BE.
UM, PROBABLY IN, IN THE EARLY LATE WINTER, PROBABLY FEBRUARY OR SO, WE'LL HAVE A, A BETTER TAKE IN ON, UH, ON HOW THAT WILL, HOW THAT WILL PLAY OUT WITH THE SCHEDULE.
SO HOW MUCH PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IS THERE AT RUSH HOUR HEADING TOWARDS THE TRAIN STATION IN A WAY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO CONCEPT CONCEPTUALIZE HOW YOU'LL KEEP THE TRAFFIC FLOWING AT RUSH HOUR WITH THE, THE LIGHTS SYNCHRONIZED AND STILL ENABLE PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC CROSSING ACROSS EAST HARTSDALE AVE.
SO I JUST NEED MORE OF A PICTURE OF THAT.
SO THIS IS WHERE WHEN YOU SHORTEN CROSSWALKS, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT EXPOSURE.
THE OTHER THING THAT HAPPENS IS THE CROSSWALK TODAY, WHEN YOU'RE OUT THERE, YOU MUST PROVIDE THAT AMOUNT OF TIME PEDESTRIAN TO CROSS AND THAT PEDESTRIAN'S CROSSING, EVEN IF THERE'S NO VEHICLES USING THAT SIDE STREET, THEY STILL HAVE A RED LIGHT ON THE MAIN LINE.
'CAUSE PEDESTRIAN'S CROSSING, WHEN YOU SHORTEN THAT CROSSWALK, IT MEANS LESS TIME IS NEEDED FOR THE PEDESTRIAN, WHICH MEANS YOU GIVE THE TIME BACK TO THE VEHICLES.
SO THIS IS WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DECIDE, OH, WE'RE GONNA HURT PS OR HELP VEHICLES BY SHORTENING, THAT ACTUALLY HELPS THE SYSTEM AS A WHOLE.
AND THEN THROUGH THE, AT T C S, IT'S REALTIME TERMS OF LIKE, IT IS CONSTANTLY MONITORING TRAFFIC.
SO THE HARD PART ABOUT THIS CORRIDOR AND WHY YOU CAN'T USE STANDARD SIGNALS IS THE TRAIN STATION HAS THESE MICROBURSTS.
SO A TIMING PLAN THAT WORKS FOR 45 MINUTES MAY NOT WORK FOR THE FIVE MINUTES WHEN PEOPLE ARE LEAVING, THAT'S WHEN PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING THIS DELAY.
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BE ABLE TO QUICKLY ADAPT TO THAT VEHICLE TRANSITION, SHORTER CROSSWALKS FOR PEDESTRIANS AND MORE SPACE ON TO WAIT, THE SYSTEM STARTS WORKING A LITTLE BIT BETTER.BUT THAT'S WHY THOSE SHORTER CROSSWALKS REALLY EVEN HELPS VEHICLE TIMES BECAUSE YOU COULD ALLOCATE THAT TIME BETTER.
AND, AND HOW MANY PARKING YOU, YOU MADE MENTION IN ONE INSTANCE THAT THERE'S NO LOSS OF PARKING, BUT JET THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE STREET PARKING, WHAT WOULD THE LOSS IN PARKING, IF ANY, BE? DO WE HAVE THE FINAL COUNT YET? PARKING, I KNOW, LIKE A ROCK, WHICH I THINK ONE OF THE SPACES MAY HAVE TO GO AWAY FOR THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT TWO OR THREE.
I I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THERE WERE, THERE WERE ANY REALLY, UM, TWO, IF ANY.
IT MAY BE ONE, BUT LET'S SAY TWO, IT'S JUST REALLOCATED IN ANOTHER SPOT.
AND THEN EVEN ONCE YOU MAKE ROCKLEDGE ONE WAY, YOU'VE GOT THOSE PARKING SPACES THERE THAT WILL NOW NO LONGER NO, THE, THE PARKING SPACES ON ROCK ON.
DO YOU WANNA GO BACK TO PRESENTATION? I WANT, I THINK, I THINK MAYBE SHE MIGHT BE REFERENCING THE, UM, SO THE PARKING THAT IS UP IN HERE WOULD REMAIN, REMAIN UNCHANGED.
SO PEOPLE WOULD STILL HAVE ACCESS FROM EAST HARTSDALE TO GET TO THOSE SPOTS.
UM, YOU CAN AC ACTUALLY SEE THEM RIGHT HERE IN THIS PICTURE.
THERE'S ABOUT RIGHT, 15, 20 OF THEM.
THOSE WOULD, THOSE WOULD REMAIN.
AND THEN WE DID TALK TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
WHILE VEHICLES WILL NOT BE USING THIS SPACE TO COME DOWN, WE PROBABLY WON'T CLOSE IT OFF AS A PAVED AREA, PROBABLY BE SOME STRIPED THAT WAY.
EMERGENCY VEHICLES COULD STILL ACCESS THIS AREA.
SO WE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
GIVEN THE TURN RATE HAS COME IN HERE, THEY STILL WANNA BE ABLE TO COME DOWN FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF ROCKLEDGE.
SO WHILE VEHICLES CAN'T DO IT, IT'D BE DONE IN A WAY WHERE EMERGENCY VEHICLE COULD GO IN THAT DIRECTION.
YOU MICROPHONE? YEAH, I THINK THAT MICROPHONE WOULD BE GOOD.
THERE ARE THREE AREAS THAT TROUBLE ME.
ONE, THE COST, UH, THIS IS A $7 MILLION PROJECT SOLELY BECAUSE YOU'VE ADDED UP THE EXPENSES AND THAT ARE 7 MILLION.
NOW, MATH IS NOT MY FORTE, BUT WE'RE THE TOWN TO BE PAYING 20% OF THE TOTAL PROJECT.
7 MILLION, 10% IS 700,000, 20% IS 1,000,004.
SO I'M WONDERING WHY WE'RE PAYING 2,000,003.
OKAY, I CAN ADDRESS THAT QUESTION.
WHAT WE DID WAS IDENTIFY THE THREE MAJOR COMPONENTS THAT WE WANTED TO ACHIEVE THROUGH THIS GRANT.
WE IDENTIFIED WHAT THOSE PROJECTED COSTS WOULD BE AND WE, WE AROSE AT A COST OF ROUGHLY 7.3 MILLION.
THEREFORE THE TOWN HAD TO SHOW A MATCH OF MORE THAN 20% SO THAT WE COULD IDENTIFY THAT THIS WAS A VIABLE PROJECT.
IF WE HAD TO, UM, BE CONFINED TO A CERTAIN NUMBER, SAY 500 OR 5.8 MILLION OR 6 MILLION, UM, THEN ULTIMATELY WE WOULD'VE HAD TO HAVE ELIMINATED, UH, THE ADAPTIVE SOME ASPECT OF THE PROJECT TO REPRESENT THAT WE HAD A, A VIABLE PROGRAM.
BUT IT WAS IDENTIFIED THAT ALL THREE OF THESE COMPONENTS WERE SO IMPORTANT IN TANDEM THAT, UM, ULTIMATELY, UH, YOU KNOW, AND I PRAISE THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE SUPPORT THAT WE'RE GONNA GO AFTER IT.
HAVING SAID THAT, UM, I DO, I'M ALWAYS MINDFUL OF, UM, POTENTIAL FOR OTHER FUNDING.
WE CAN'T WORK WITH OTHER FUNDING SOURCES TO BRING MORE MONEY TO THE TABLE, IF YOU WILL.
AND I CAN ASSURE YOU I WILL BE ACTIVELY ON THAT.
WELL, OF COURSE, FROM THAT RESPECT, WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME BECAUSE MR. FINER WANTS THE PROJECT OVER COMPLETED, BUT IN 2024, SO YOU'RE RUNNING OUTTA TIME TO GET EXTRA MONEY THERE.
NOW THE ROCK LEDGE EXIT, IT'S TWO WAY RIGHT NOW, CORRECT? WELL, THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT THE TRAFFIC THAT LEAVES FOR A SMALL PORTION, IT'S CORRECT LEAVES WILL BE MAKING A LEFT TURN AND THE OTHER CLOSER TO CENTRAL AVENUE EXIT FROM THE PROPERTY WILL BE MAKING A RIGHT TURN.
NOW YOU HAVE ALL OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S EXITING FROM THAT DEVELOPMENT, LEAVING THROUGH ONE EXIT, MAKING BOTH RIGHT AND LEFT TURNS BECAUSE SOME OF THE PEOPLE AREN'T GONNA GO TOWARDS CENTRAL AVENUE, PARTICULARLY THOSE, THIS IS A HORSESHOE SHAPED PROJECT.
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SO THOSE ARE ON THE FURTHER PORTION OF THE CURVE, YOU KNOW, ARE NOT GONNA BE GOING BACKWARDS.WHAT YOU ARE NOW DOING BY CLOSING OFF THE EXISTING EXIT, WHICH YOU DON'T WANT ANYMORE FOR TWO-WAY TRAFFIC, IS MOVING THE TRAFFIC FURTHER UP THE ROAD AND CREATING A HAZARD AT THAT LO AT THAT LOCATION.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE MOVING FROM ONE POCKET TO THE OTHER POCKET.
YOU'RE NOT CHANGING THINGS AROUND.
YOU HAVE CAREFULLY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION.
ALL THE VARIOUS CHANGES IN THE STREETLIGHT SIGN, UH, TIMINGS FINE.
NONE OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
IT HAS TO DO WITH MOVING TRAFFIC MORE QUICKLY.
THE FASTEST WAY TO MOVE TRAFFIC MORE QUICKLY FROM THE TRAIN STATION EITHER DIRECTION TO CENTRAL AVENUE IS TO HAVE NO LIGHTS AT ALL.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE OBJECTIVE IS IT? SO WHY ARE WE LOOKING TO MOVE TRAFFIC FASTER ALONG EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE WHEN EVERYTHING IT SEEMS TO POINT TO TRAFFIC WHICH MOVES FASTER, BECOMES MORE OF A PEDESTRIAN HAZARD? YOU'VE ENDED THIS PRESENTATION AT CENTRAL AVENUE AND TOLD US, OH, THE D O T AT CENTRAL AVENUE IS VERY HAPPY.
AND GOING ALONG WITH ALL THIS, I REALLY KIND OF DOUBT THAT BECAUSE TRAFFIC ON CENTRAL AVENUE IS GREATER THAN TRAFFIC ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE AND WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
WE KNOW THAT MATTER CAN OCCUPY THE SAME SPACE AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IF YOU'RE GETTING ALL THE TRAFFIC FROM THE TRAIN STATION TO CENTRAL AVENUE MORE EXPEDITIOUSLY, FINE.
EVEN IF IT ISN'T A SAFETY MEASURE, IT'S GOING TO HAVE TO STAY NOW AT THE LIGHT TO ENTER CENTRAL AVENUE.
IF YOU HAVE MORE LONGER GREEN LIGHT AT CENTRAL AVENUE, THEN THE TRAFFIC WHICH EXISTS ON CENTRAL AVENUE WILL NOW HAVE TO WAIT LONGER.
AND SINCE I SUSPECT THERE'S MORE TRAFFIC HEADING IN BOTH DIRECTIONS ON CENTRAL AVENUE, D O T IS NOT GONNA GO ALONG WITH THAT AS WELL AS THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE LEFT TURN LANES, WHICH ADD TO ADDITIONAL TIME.
SO ALL YOU'RE DOING BY HERE IS MOVING THE TRAFFIC FASTER TO CENTRAL AVENUE, BUT IT'S GONNA LINGER THERE BECAUSE THE D A T TO HE IS STILL GONNA FAVOR CENTRAL AVENUE TRAFFIC.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS? YES, I CAN TAKE YOUR QUESTIONS.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE, WERE FOUR SEPARATE QUESTIONS IN THERE, BUT I'LL I'LL START WITH CENTRAL AVENUE FIRST.
UH, SO CENTRAL AVENUE FOUR CORNERS IS GOING TO BE UNDER THE ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL CONTROL AND IT'LL BE SYNCED UP WITH ALL OF EAST HARSDALE AVENUE.
UM, SO AS AN ADAPTIVE TRAFFIC SIGNAL, UH, BECAUSE IT IS SYNCED ALONG EAST HARTSDALE, UM, IT WILL ADAPT TO TRA TO TRAFFIC ALONG EAST HARTSDALE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT'LL ADAPT TO LIVE TRAFFIC ALONG CENTRAL AVENUE.
UH, WE HAVE DISCUSSED WITH D O T MULTIPLE TIMES THE BENEFITS OF THE SYSTEM.
THEY HAVE USED, UH, THE SYSTEM ON MANY ROADWAYS, INCLUDING AT TRAIN STATIONS AND OTHER VERY HEAVILY TRAVELED ROADS.
AND IT'S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE, UM, IN TERMS OF MOVING CARS FASTER DOWN EAST HARTSDALE.
UH, OUR AIM IN RETIMING THE SIGNALS AND ADJUSTING THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS IS NOT TO MAKE PEOPLE GO DOWN THE ROAD FASTER.
IT'S TO MAKE PEOPLE GO DOWN, TRAVEL DOWN EAST HARTSDALE, HITTING AS FEW RED LIGHTS AS POSSIBLE SO THAT THEY'RE TRAVELING AT THE SPEED LIMIT AT A, AT A PACE THAT'S SAFE FOR PEDESTRIANS 25 MILES PER HOUR, UH, SO THAT YOU'RE NOT, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT FRUSTRATING DRIVERS WHO ARE GOING DOWN EAST HARTSDALE SO THEY SPEED.
UM, AND ALSO I BELIEVE YOU HAD A QUESTION ON ROCKLEDGE.
SO ROCKLEDGE TODAY IS TWO-WAY ONLY AT THE SECTION CLOSEST TO EAST HARTSDALE.
UM, THAT SECTION IS THE ONLY SECTION THAT WILL BE CONVERTED TO ONE WAY.
THE REST OF THE SECTION TODAY IS CURRENTLY ONE WAY.
UM, WHEN WE DID THE TRAFFIC STUDY, WE'VE UH, WE'VE STUDIED THIS INTERSECTION AT LEAST TWICE NOW.
UH, WE'VE COLLECTED TRAFFIC COUNTS AT THIS INTERSECTION TWICE.
UM, THERE IS A VERY LOW NUMBER OF VEHICLES ACTUALLY TURNING OUT OF THERE RIGHT NOW.
UM, HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO EXIT OUT, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO WAIT A LONG TIME BECAUSE THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL ACTUALLY OPERATES VERY POORLY.
SO INSTEAD OUR PLAN IS TO SEND PEOPLE AROUND ROCKLEDGE TO THE NEW NORTHERN TRAFFIC SIGNAL.
AND OUR ANALYSIS TELLS US THAT THIS INTERSECTION WILL OPERATE MUCH BETTER, UH, WHICH MEANS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO WAIT LESS TIME TO BE ABLE TO EXIT THERE.
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CAN I JUST, JUST A FOLLOW UP, YOU KNOW, TO YOUR QUESTION, UM, IF, I MEAN WE COULD HAVE A 25 MILE AN HOUR, YOU KNOW, SPEED LIMIT, BUT SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T COMPLY WITH THE SPEED LIMITS.AND IF, IF BASICALLY YOU MAKE IT REALLY EASY FOR PEOPLE TO, UH, TO DRIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE, THERE'S NO OBSTRUCTIONS OR WHATEVER THAT COULD ZOOM, ZOOM, YOU KNOW, TO CENTRAL AVENUE, THE FOUR CORNERS, WON'T THAT LIKE INCREASE, UH, YOU KNOW, SPEEDING, WHICH IS BA YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD THE HEARING A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, EVERYBODY SAID THEY BASICALLY WANTED LESS SPEEDING.
THEY WANTED, YOU KNOW, THEY WANTED TO MAKE, THEY WANTED TO MAKE IT LIKE MORE DIFFICULT TO GET, TO GET THROUGH.
I MEAN THAT WAS, I MEAN ON ONE HAND, YOU KNOW, NOBODY WANTS TO BE INCONVENIENCED, BUT AT THE SAME TIME PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE ARE SAYING TWO THINGS.
THEY DON'T WANNA BE INCONVENIENCED AND THEY'RE SAYING THEY DON'T WANT SPEEDING.
THERE'S TWO ELEMENTS TO THAT, YOU FOLLOW UP.
SO YEAH, SO THE SIGNAL DESIGN.
DON'T FORGET TODAY, THE STIMULUS SPACING IS NOT CORRECT.
SO YOU HAVE A LONG SPACE BETWEEN SIGNALS, WHICH ALLOWS THAT SPEEDING ALLOWS FRUSTRATION.
'CAUSE AS THE SIGNALS ARE FURTHER APART, CARS NO LONGER TRAVELS A PACK.
THAT'S WHERE YOU GET SPEEDING AND THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE TRY TO JUMP TO BEAT THE RED.
SO THE SIGNAL ITSELF STARTS PLATOONING THOSE VEHICLES BACK TO, CREATES THIS CONSISTENT MOVEMENT.
DON'T FORGET, ONE OF THE THINGS YOU DO WITH SPEEDS IS YOU NARROW THE ROADWAY.
ALL THESE BULL BATHS AT THE INTERSECTION CREATE A NARROWER ROADWAY, WHICH VEHICLES TRAVEL SLOWLY.
IT'S LIKE THE COMPLETE STREET CONCEPTS, THE NARROW THE ROADWAY AS A DRIVER, YOU DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU WANNA SPEED 'CAUSE YOUR CURB IS NOW RIGHT NEXT TO YOU VERSUS EIGHT FEET OFF.
SO THE COMBINATION OF A SIGNAL THAT CAN SLOW DOWN PLATOON TRAFFIC AND JUST HAVE A CONSISTENT SPEED, WE'RE NOT JUST SAYING SPEEDING.
IT'S A CONSISTENT SPEED THAT AVOIDS DRIVER, UH, FRUSTRATION AND THESE HARDSCAPE ELEMENTS THAT NARROW THE ROAD.
THAT'S WHY YOU CAN ACHIEVE THAT SLOWER SPEED, EVEN THOUGH THE SIGNALS ARE BETTER.
SO MR. SAMS, UM, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS.
I BELIEVE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TIME TO GET BACK TO YOU.
YOU, YOU'VE ASKED SEVEN QUESTIONS.
IF YOU COULD PASS THE MIC TO THE GENTLEMAN RIGHT BEHIND YOU.
AND THEN WE HAVE A COUPLE SPEAKERS ON ZOOM AND IF WE HAVE TIME WE'LL CERTAINLY GET BACK BEFORE WE MOVE ON FROM THAT, ONE OF THE STATEMENTS WAS THAT THE FASTEST WAY TO GET PEOPLE FROM FOUR CORNERS TO THE TRAIN STATION IS HAVE NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS.
I ASSUME YOU DISAGREE WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE TRAFFIC TRYING TO COME OUT OF WILSON AND, UH, ROCKLEDGE AND COLUMBIA, IT'LL FAVOR IF YOU HAVE NO TRAFFIC LIGHTS ALONG EAST HARTSDALE, IT'S, YOU WON'T, PEDESTRIANS WON'T BE ABLE TO CROSS, UH, YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE DRIVE OUT OF THEIR HOUSES ON SIDE ROADS AND IT JUST WOULDN'T BE OVERALL GOOD FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, SO I I I SEE YOUR POINT THERE.
I WANTED TO FIRST OF ALL THANK THE TOWN OFFICIALS AND THANK BAR AND KARA FOR OBVIOUSLY THE MANY YEARS OF HARD WORK YOU GUYS HAVE PUT IN FOR THIS.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS REFERENCED THAT THIS WENT BACK TO 2019, SO THIS HAS CLEARLY BEEN WELL THOUGHT OUT, SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE TWO QUICK COMMENTS AND ASK TWO QUICK QUESTIONS, HOPEFULLY.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THOUGH, AS FAR AS ROCKLEDGE GOES, I I REALLY LIKE THE, THE CHANGE.
I THINK THAT, UM, INTERSECTION, AS SOMEONE POINTED OUT, THAT PEDESTRIAN CROSSING THERE IS QUITE LONG GOING FROM PRE, UH, PRETTY LITTLE SWEETSS, UM, ACROSS THE WAY THERE.
SO I THINK THAT SHORTENING IT UP, UM, IS REALLY NICE.
AND I THINK THAT MAKING IT ONE WAY IS VERY NICE BECAUSE I DO SEE PEOPLE WAIT FOR A LONG TIME WITH THAT LIGHT AND THEN JUST KIND OF GO, GO THROUGH THE RED, OR THEY, YOU KNOW, SPEED DOWN THE STREET AND THEY JUST GET OUT ONTO EAST HARTSDALE.
SO I THINK THAT WILL GREATLY HELP THINGS.
AND THAT TRAFFIC LIGHT IS, UM, ATROCIOUS.
I MEAN IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S TOTALLY NOT SYNCED UP.
SO, UH, DEFINITELY CAN SEE THAT.
UM, I ALSO LOVE THE BULB OUTS.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING THAT YOU GUYS SAID, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
MAKING IT NARROWER, SLOW PEOPLE DOWN, UM, SHORTENS THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.
UM, AND THEN TWO QUICK QUESTIONS.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, I KNOW DOWN BY THE MOBILE AND UH, IRISH BANK THERE'S AN ELEVATED PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK.
SO I WAS WONDERING IF YOU GUYS CONSIDERED THAT WITH ANY OF YOUR CROSSINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF TO SLOW THINGS DOWN A LITTLE BIT WITH LIKE A SPEED BUMP SLASH PEDESTRIAN CROSSING MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT SAFER.
AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION IS, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU SAID THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD START SPRING 2025, SO JUST WONDERING, UM, IF THERE WAS AN EXPECTED END DATE, HOW LONG THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD TAKE? THANK YOU.
UM, THE DIFFERENT CROSSWALKS, YES, WE'RE CONSIDERING EVERYTHING RIGHT NOW, INCLUDING THE RAISED ONES AS WELL.
UM, THAT HAS TO BE VETTED THROUGH AND A LOT OF IT HAS TO DO WITH THE COMMENTS AND AND INPUT WE GET FROM A MEETINGS LIKE, LIKE THIS.
SO THAT STILL IS UNDER CONSIDERATION.
UM, AS FAR AS, UH, TIMEFRAME, UH, WE WOULD EXPECT THE CONSTRUCTION TO, TO TAKE TWO SEASONS, UM, MORE THAN LIKELY, UH, EAST, UH, WOULD BE DONE, COULD BE DONE AT THE SAME TIME, BUT, UM, IT, IT, IT COULD TAKE, IT COULD TAKE TWO SEASONS.
THERE'S A, A LOT OF INFRASTRUCTURE WORK ON WEST HARTSDALE.
UM, AND THEN ALSO THE TIMING OF THE SIGNAL EQUIPMENT AND SUPPLIES AND, AND, UH, IF WE HAVE SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES STILL TO THE, TO THAT DAY COULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE SCHEDULE.
SO, UM, ALTHOUGH, UH, A SAVVY CONTRACTOR MAY BE ABLE TO GET IT DONE WITH A, A LOT OF FORCES IN ONE YEAR, WHICH WE HOPE THEY
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WOULD DO, UM, IT IS POSSIBLE IT COULD BE TWO SEASONS.SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE KEEPING TRAFFIC FLOWING DURING PEAK HOURS IS IMPORTANT.
SO THERE'LL BE LIMITED, UH, TIME RESTRICTIONS FOR WORK AND UH, LANE CLOSURES AS WELL.
SO THERE WILL HAVE SHORTENED WORK DAYS.
SO, BUT THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND UH, THANK YOU.
UH, I KNOW THERE'S SOME SPEAKERS ON ZOOM, UM, YEAH.
AND ONE OF THE SPEAKERS ON ZOOM PUT SOME COMMENTS IN THE CHAT, WHICH I'M HAPPY TO READ, BUT I THINK THE PERSON THAT RAISED THEIR HAND, IF WE COULD, UM, YEAH, CALL ON THEM NEXT.
UH, KATHY, YOU HAVE TO, UH, SAY YES, YOU WON'T BE ON VIDEO 'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT TURNING ON YOUR VIDEO, BUT SAY YES TO THE PROMPT YOU'RE ABOUT TO GET.
THERE WE GO, IF YOU'D PLEASE UNMUTE.
I'M A RESIDENT AT 30 EAST PARKSDALE, UH, ALMOST DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM WILSON.
AND, UH, I HAVE A SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT THAT, UH, TRYING TO JUST GET ACROSS THE STREET.
UH, AT THAT POINT, UH, MANY PEOPLE PARK IN THE MUNICIPAL LOT, UM, PEOPLE DRIVING TOWARD THE CENTRAL AVENUE INTERSECTION, UM, FREQUENTLY GUN THEIR ENGINE TO JUST GET TO THE LIGHT IN TIME.
AND, UM, I WAS WONDERING WHAT THE PLANS WERE FOR A, UH, CROSSING SIGNAL FOR THAT AREA.
NUMBER TWO, I DO LIKE THE IDEA OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKER OF RAISING THE CROSSWALK WALK, WHICH WOULD BE A DETERRENT TO SPEED, BUT IT IN ADDITION TO A LIGHT THAT, UH, SHOULD BE INSTALLED.
UM, THAT'S MY COMMENT AND IF SOMEONE, UH, WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK TO THAT, UH, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENT QUESTIONS.
UM, SO AT THAT LOCATION AT WILSON, THERE, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC RIGHT NOW, AND WE'VE SEEN IN OUR STUDIES THAT, UM, PEOPLE WISHING TO TURN LEFT ONTO CENTRAL AVENUE, CENTRAL PARK AVENUE FREQUENTLY GO IN THE WRONG DIRECTION OR THE WRONG LANE.
UM, SO WHAT WE COULD DO THERE IS, IS BETTER DELINEATE A CROSSING, A MID-BLOCK CROSSING WITH THOSE VARIOUS TYPES OF ALTERNATIVES.
ALTERNATIVES THAT I, I SHOWED EARLIER.
ONE OF THOSE COULD BE A RAISED CROSSWALK ACTING AS A QUASI SPEED BUMP, SWEET SPEED HUMP TO SLOW VEHICLES DOWN, UM, IN ADDITION TO, TO SIGNAGE AND, AND FLASHING LIGHTS, UM, COULD BE IMPLEMENTED THERE.
UM, BUT IT'S, UM, STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION.
UM, UM, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T COME UP WITH A FINAL ALTERNATIVE OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT YET.
SO THAT'S YOUR COMMENT IS, IS WELL RECEIVED AND IS TAKEN UNDER CONSIDERATION.
WELL, THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I APPRECIATE IT.
THAT'S WHY I REALLY WANTED TO BE PART OF THIS PANEL.
AND, UH, I WAS WONDERING, UH, OUR, EVEN THOUGH THE TOWN IS CONTRIBUTING A CERTAIN AMOUNT TO MAKE UP FOR THE, UH, TOTAL SHORTFALL, UH, OF THIS PROJECT, UH, IS THERE SOME AMOUNT OF MONIES FROM THE TOWN THAT COULD BE UTILIZED AT THIS TIME WITHOUT WAITING, UH, FOR THE GRANT AND ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT MUST HAPPEN, UM, AND, UH, ACTUALLY START IMPLEMENTING SOME THINGS SUCH AS PERHAPS THE, UH, THE PHOTO CAMERAS, UH, TO DO SOMETHING AS OPPOSED TO WAITING TILL ALL THE STUDIES COME TOGETHER BECAUSE THIS, UM, THE TRAGIC ACCIDENT NOTWITHSTANDING, UM, EAST HARTSDALE IS A TREACHEROUS PLACE FOR PEDESTRIANS.
I THE CAMERA, IF WE GET THE CAMERA APPROVED, THAT WOULD NOT BE PART OF THE, THE $5 MILLION.
THAT'S A TOTALLY, YOU KNOW, SEPARATE AND THE TOWN BOARD.
YESTERDAY AT OUR MEETING, WE PASSED A RESOLUTION, STARTING THAT PROCESS, ASKING FOR THE LEGISLATION.
MY UNDERSTANDING, WHEN YOU APPLY FOR A GRANT, IF YOU GET A $5 MILLION GRANT AND YOU SPEND THE MONEY SOMETIMES BEFORE YOU KNOW THE GRANT IS APPROVED, YOU DON'T GET CREDIT FOR SPENDING DEATH.
BECAUSE I KNOW ON BABBITT COURT, YOU KNOW, CO 20 YEARS AGO, UH, THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO LIFTED UP THEIR HOMES,
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UH, BEFORE THEY GOT THE GRANT AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DIDN'T GIVE THEM ANY, ANY FUNDING.SO IS THAT, IS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING? YES, THAT IS RIGHT.
ANY OF THESE CHANGES, UM, CANNOT BE MADE, UH, PRIOR TO THE APPROVAL BY THE, UH, FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND NEW YORK STATE D O T.
UM, BUT I ACTUALLY DID WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UH, SERGEANT BEN FONTELLA FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.
AND, UH, HE'S BEEN A PART OF THIS PROCESS THROUGHOUT IN, IN LENDING HIS, UH, HIS LOCAL EXPERTISE.
UM, BUT I WOULD SAY WE DO RECEIVE COMMENTS, UH, ROUTINELY AND WE EVALUATE THEM ALL.
AND, YOU KNOW, FOR INSTANCE, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN UPDATED, UH, A D A PARKING SPACE ON EAST HARSDALE AVENUE, WHICH WE'RE COORDINATING, WHICH IS OUTSIDE OF THIS PROJECT.
UM, SO IF THERE ARE ITEMS THAT CAN BE DONE, UM, IN, IN, IN, IN ASIDE FROM THIS PROJECT, WE'RE EVALUATING THEM.
AND I ALSO THANK YOU THAT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I, I DIDN'T WANT IT TO PASS, AND I'M SORRY FOR INTERRUPTING THE, THE, UH, THE HARD WORK OF THE BOARD AND LEADERSHIP AND, UH, ALL THE, UH, WORK THAT GOES INTO SUCH A MASSIVE PROJECT.
I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND, UH, EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION.
IT, IT'S NOT THAT IT'S TAKING A LONG TIME BECAUSE THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE MONEY TO PUT INTO IT.
IT'S TAKING A LONG TIME BECAUSE EACH ONE OF THESE CHANGES HAS TO GO BACK TO THE STATE TO GET THEIR APPROVAL.
WE HEARD EARLIER THAT CENTRAL AVENUE WILL GET PRIORITY.
UH, THAT TOOK AN AWFUL LOT OF CONVINCING.
I WAS AT ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS, AT LEAST ONE OF THOSE MEETINGS, UH, TO GET THE STATE TO AGREE TO BE INTEGRATED INTO THE EAST HEARTS HARSDALE.
IT TAKES TIME FOR THE ENGINEERS TO SEE THE WISDOM OF WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
AND THEN, BUT ONCE THEY ARE ON BOARD, THEN THAT'S GREAT, BUT THEN YOU MAKE A CHANGE SOMEPLACE ELSE.
YOU GO BACK, YOU, YOU'RE SMILING, YOU GO BACK TO GET THE STATE.
AND THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE PROCESS.
IT'S DESIGNED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT'S EVER ULTIMATELY BUILT WORKS AND IS THE SAFEST THAT IT CAN POSSIBLY BE, SO THAT IT'S NOT, I I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET THE IMPRESSION THAT WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, MONEY ISSUES THAT'S HOLDING THIS BACK.
IT'S REALLY DESIGN COMING UP WITH HOW DO YOU POSSIBLY DEAL WITH THE AREA AROUND DESCENTE PLAZA.
IT WOULD NEVER BE CONSTRUCTED THAT WAY IF IT WASN'T LIKE THAT ALREADY.
UM, AND, BUT NOW WE HAVE TO TRY AND DEAL WITH IT, AND THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THE BEST THEY CAN, AND THEY'RE DOING ALL KINDS OF ANALYSES.
UM, I DO WANNA CLARIFY THAT THERE'S A, THERE SEEMS TO BE A MISUNDERSTANDING.
THERE IS A MATCH ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.
IT'S NOT A MAXIMUM OF 20% FROM THE TOWN.
THAT'S A MINIMUM OF 20% FROM THE TOWN.
THE $5 MILLION FROM THE STATE IS FIXED.
SO ANYTHING THAT'S OVER THE 20% THAT WE HAVE TO PAY, THAT IS OUR MATCH.
THAT NUMBER GOES TO 22, 23, 24.
IF WE WANT THE PROJECT DONE, THE $5 MILLION IS FIXED.
SO IT'S NOT, SOMEBODY DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO DO THE MATH.
HOW DO YOU GET 20% OF, OF $5 MILLION GETTING US TO $7.3 MILLION WITH THE MATCH? IT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST.
AND IF WE WANT TO DO THAT, WE CAN HAVE TO COME UP WITH THE MONEY AND WE CAN TRY AND FIND IT FROM OTHER SOURCES.
AND WE DO LOOK, UH, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE MATH THAT'S INVOLVED.
AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING INCORRECT, WHAT I JUST SAID, PLEASE CORRECT ME.
WHAT WAS THAT? I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE? I BELIEVE WE HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER ON THE ZOOM.
IS, UH, IS CAROL ON RIGHT NOW? YEAH, CAROL'S HERE.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UM, THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS PRESENTATION TOGETHER, UM, TO ALL THE, UH, PROFESSIONALS THAT WERE INVOLVED INTO THE, THE TOWN BOARD FOR COORDINATING THIS EFFORT OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
IT WAS A REALLY HIGH QUALITY PRESENTATION.
AND, UM, TO BE HONEST, MOST OF MY QUESTIONS WERE ALREADY ANSWERED THROUGH IT.
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I DID WANNA SAY, UM, ON THE BUDGET, I, AS A TAXPAYER, I AM, I THINK THERE'S A PHENOMENAL OPPORTUNITY TO GET $7 MILLION OF INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT DONE FOR THE TOWN TO PUT UP, YOU KNOW, UH, I FORGET WHAT THE NUMBER WAS, 2.3 OR WHATEVER IT IS.UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GETTING $3 FOR YOUR PER DOLLAR.
AND, UM, AS A TAXPAYER, I WOULD SIGN UP FOR THAT EVERY TIME.
UM, AND I HOPE, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE DO COME AND SPEAK AGAINST, YOU KNOW, THE SPENDING ON THIS, I HOPE THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS REALLY A LARGE SCALE INFRASTRUCTURE INVESTMENT AND THERE'S RARE OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE TOWN, UM, TO TAKE ON PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
UM, QUESTION FOR, I THINK A K R F, UH, THIS MIGHT NOT BE SOMETHING YOU KNOW OFFHAND, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE PRE VERSUS POST IMPLEMENTATION VOLUME FOR THE TRAFFIC ON ROCKLEDGE ROAD AFTER THAT GETS CHANGED TO A ONE WAY? UH, I DON'T HAVE IT WITH ME, BUT THAT IS IN THE REPORT, SO WE COULD GET YOU THOSE VOLUMES, BUT YEAH, NO, IT'S WORKING.
UM, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS PROBABLY LESS THAN 50 VEHICLES DURING THE PEAK HOUR THAT SHIFTED, BUT WE HAVE THE VOLUMES IN THE REPORT, SO WE COULD PULL THOSE LATER FOR YOU.
AND I DO THINK CHANGING THAT TO A ONE WAY IS MUCH NEEDED PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENT AS SOMEONE THAT, UH, HEADS ONE WAY UP THERE DAILY.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, UH, A GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE SPOKE EARLIER ABOUT THE CROSSWALK NEAR THE IRISH BANK.
IT CONNECTS TO SANTA PLAZA TO WHAT'S NOW A VACANT BUILDING ACROSS FROM THE IRISH BANK.
AND IT'S, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S INTENTIONALLY A RAISED CROSS CROSSWALK RIGHT NOW, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE A RAMP AND A CROSSWALK.
AND I THINK HE WAS WONDERING IF THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF THIS PROJECT.
AND I HAD THE SAME QUESTION ALSO.
NO, IT'S NOT IN THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT EXACTLY, BUT WE'RE DEFINITELY GOING TO, UH, TAKE IT UNDER CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW THAT.
UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO INCLUDE SOMETHING LIKE THAT THERE.
SO, UM, THANKS FOR THE COMMENT, CAROL.
THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE RE UM, PUT INTO THE CHAT.
I THINK, UH, IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE IF I JUST READ THEM.
UH, THE ALEX K DID NOT RAISE THEIR HAND TO SPEAK, SO I'M JUST GONNA, UH, QUICKLY RECITE THESE.
AND THEN I, I DO THINK, UM, UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE WITH AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION, WE SHOULD MOVE ON TO WEST HARSDALE AVENUE.
AESTHETICALLY PLEASING BOLLARDS ARE A GREAT IDEA, WAS GOING TO BRING THAT UP.
PROTECTING SIDEWALKS FROM VEHICLES WHILE ALLOWING PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, PARTICULARLY ON THE NARROW SIDEWALK SIDE.
CAMERAS ARE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN RED LIGHT CAMERAS IF POSSIBLE, TO DISCOURAGE SPEEDING.
AND THEN THE LAST COMMENT WAS OUR SPEEDING ROAD BUMPS OFF THE TABLE.
THEY ARE NOISY FOR RESIDENCES FACING THE AVENUE, ESPECIALLY WHEN TRUCKS GO OVER THEM, WHICH I THINK ON THAT LAST COMMENT WE HAD IDENTIFIED THAT, UM, WE'RE GONNA EVALUATE IF, UM, SPEED BUMPS MAKE SENSE ELSEWHERE IN THE QUARTER.
SO THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMMENTS.
UH, ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY LAST COMMENTS BEFORE WE SWITCH OVER TO WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE? OKAY, SO THANKS EVERYONE FOR YOUR PARTICIPATION.
AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA SWITCH OVER TO THE WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE SIDEWALK.
THAT, THAT WAS A QUESTION, THOUGH.
OUR SPEEDING ROAD BUMPS OFF THE TABLE.
IT'S POSSIBLE THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, WHAT THEY'RE CALLED MILLED IN AUDIBLE ROADWAY DELINEATORS THAT RUN AT THE EDGE OF THE HIGHWAY, AND THEN SOME ROADS, THE CENTER LINES.
THAT IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO DISCUSS WITH NEW YORK STATE D O T.
UM, IT IS LIKELY NOT GOING TO BE INCLUDED, BUT, UM, I DON'T SEE A REAL REASON FOR THIS BEING A, A ROAD ENGINEER, UH, FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
UM, SO, UH, IT, IT'S NOT, NOTHING'S REALLY OFF THE TABLE AT THIS POINT, BUT IT'S, IT'S DOUBTFUL THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS PROJECT.
SPEED, AS I READ THE QUESTION, I THINK SHE WANTS IT TO BE, BECAUSE THERE'RE NOISY, UH, IN A RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I DON'T THINK SHE'S ENCOURAGING IT.
ALTHOUGH WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE AND CENTRAL AVENUE WOULD REQUIRE STATE APPROVALS, UH, EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, ANYTHING WE DO, THEY DON'T HAVE TO APPROVE ANYTHING.
SO FOR THIS PROCESS, UH, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S FEDERAL FUNDING, IT'S ALMOST AS IF IT WERE A STATE ROAD.
SO IT'S THE SAME PROCESS, RIGHT? YES.
THAT'S WHY TREATED COUNCIL MACHINE, I READ THAT AS SPEED HUMPS, BUT SPEED BUMPS DIFFERENT THING.
UM, AND IN ALL LIKELIHOOD OFF THE TABLE, BUT, OKAY.
WEST HARSDALE AVENUE, SIDEWALK,
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SORRY, BEAR WITH ME JUST A SECOND.FAST FORWARD TO THE, THE WEST HARTSDALE SIDE.
SO, AS A REMINDER, THE WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UH, OUR PROJECT LIMITS FROM THE FOUR CORNERS ALL THE WAY UP TO PAC CAPONE, THERE IS A SMALL SECTION OF, OF MISSING SIDEWALK BETWEEN PAC CAPONE AND, UH, THE EXISTING SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOLS.
LIKE WE WOULD INCLUDE THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION AS WELL.
BUT BASICALLY, PAC CAPONE IS, IS KIND OF OUR, OUR, OUR LOCATION THAT I'M, THAT EVERYONE PROBABLY RECOGNIZES.
SO CURRENTLY ALONG THE WEST HARTSDALE CORRIDOR, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS ARE SOMEWHAT NARROW, TWO FEET, ONE FOOT, THEY KIND OF VARY.
UH, THEY, THEY VARY IN WIDTH IN, IN THAT PARTICULAR PART OF THE CORRIDOR.
TRAVEL LANES ARE PRETTY CONSISTENT, ABOUT 11 FEET IN WIDTH.
THERE ARE LOCATIONS OF PAVED GUTTERS THAT COLLECT STORM WATER THAT SEEMS TO BE RUNNING CONSTANTLY.
THERE'S ALSO AREAS WHERE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST THERE ONLY DURING LARGER STORM EVENTS EXISTING UNDERNEATH THE ASPHALT PAVEMENT IS CONCRETE.
WHEN THE, THE CORRIDOR WAS DEVELOPED BACK IN THE TWENTIES AND THIRTIES, THEY PUT IN, UH, CONCRETE SLABS.
AND THEN OVER TIME THERE'S BEEN ASPHALT OVERLAYS PUT AT VARIOUS POINTS IN TIME.
THIS IS A, A SECTION OF STATE ROAD.
SO STATE ROUTE 100 A, UH, SO NEW YORK STATE, D O T HAS, HAS A LOT OF SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS ON THEIR ROADWAY.
SO, SO I GUESS WE'RE KEEPING THAT IN MIND AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH WITH THE DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.
SO AS PART OF THE, THE STUDIES THAT A K R F DID AND ALSO THE TAP APPLICATION, THEY LOOKED AT, YOU KNOW, A SIDEWALK, A CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK ALONG ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD, UH, TO BASICALLY THE COST FOR THO FOR THAT INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU KNOW, IN AN IDEAL WORLD, WE COULD PUT SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES, BUT IT'S, IT'S EXPENSIVE.
SO ONE WAY TO REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE IS TO HAVE SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE.
AND SO WE'VE LOOKED AT WHICH SIDE WOULD BE BEST FOR THAT, TAKING INTO CONSIDER CONSIDERATION THE RIGHT OF WAY INVOLVEMENT.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S WETLANDS, UM, ON THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY PARK PROPERTY, THAT'S ALSO A SECTION FOUR A PROPERTY THAT HAS OTHER IMPLICATIONS.
IF WE GET INTO IMPACTING THAT, UM, POSITIONING OF UTILITY POLES, LOCATIONS OF THE HOUSES, HOW CLOSE ARE THEY TO THE ROAD? YOU KNOW, IF WE PUT A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE AND WE HAVE TO PUSH UTILITY POLES CLOSER TO SOMEONE'S HOUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE RECEIVED VERY WELL.
SO, SO WITH THAT SAID, WE CAME UP WITH A SIDE OF THE ROAD THAT SEEMED BEST, THAT KIND OF BALANCED ALL OF THOSE, THOSE FACTORS.
SO AS YOU'RE TRAVELING FROM THE FOUR CORNERS TO PAC CAPONE, WE'VE GOT THE SIDEWALK RIGHT NOW POSITIONED ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD.
SO FIVE FOOT, 80, 80, A COMPLIANT SIDEWALK, VERTICAL FACED CURB TO COLLECT STORM WATER, AND ALSO TO PROVIDE, UH, SO SOME DELINEATION FOR THE VEHICLES TRAVELING IN THAT CORRIDOR.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S, UH, A, A WHITE STRIPE ON THAT EASTBOUND TRAVELING.
SO WE WOULD CONVERT THAT FROM 11 FOOT TRAVEL LANE, TWO FOOT SHOULDER TO A 13 FOOT WIDE CURB LANE.
SO IT COULD ACCOMMODATE BICYCLISTS POTENTIALLY THAT WANT TO TRAVEL IN THAT DIRECTION.
BUT IT ALSO, UM, IT, POSITIONING OF THE CURB WILL HELP, UM, HELP GIVE THAT VISUAL BARRIER TO THE VEHICLE, THE MOTORIST AS THEY'RE TRAVELING THROUGH THE CORRIDOR, THAT THERE'S SOMETHING THERE.
AND, UM, YEAH, BUT THE, WHEN WE SAY A WIDE CURB LANE THERE, THAT'S THE TERMINOLOGY THAT IS USED BY FEDERAL HIGHWAY ADMINISTRATION AND NEW YORK STATE D O T, WHAT IT REALLY MEANS IS A SHARED TRAVEL LANE AS WELL.
SO 11 AND TWO FOR OUR MATH FRIENDS HERE IS 13.
AND, UH, WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE USING SUBSTITUTING, UH, FOR THE CURB, WHICH CREATES THAT BARRIER.
BUT IT ALSO ALLOWS BICYCLISTS A LITTLE BIT MORE ROOM IN THAT LANE, UH, AS THEY'RE TECHNICALLY NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE SIDEWALK.
SO, UH, THE SPACE ALLOCATED IS THE SAME.
IT'S JUST SET UP IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAT IS, UH, CAN ACCOMMODATE BICYCLES.
AND THIS IS BASED ON GUIDANCE.
UH, A NUMBER OF YEARS BACK IT WAS 12 FEET.
UH, THEY'VE INCREASED THAT WITH, UH, TO 13 BASED ON EXPERIENCE AND ROOM FOR BICYCLISTS.
SO, SO THAT'S THE REALLY THE MAJOR CHANGE.
UM, WE LOOKED AT SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES AND WEIGHING THE, UH,
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PROPERTY IMPACTS ENVIRONMENTAL, AS PETE HAD SAID.UM, IT, IT DOES, UM, LOOK, THE ENGINEERING DOES SAY THAT THE, UH, THE RIGHT SIDE GOING, UH, TOWARDS SOUTH, UM, PAC CAPONE, IT DOES MAKE THE MOST SENSE, UM, IN AS FAR AS IMPACTS, COSTS AND, AND TIMELINE OF GETTING THE, THE PROJECT THROUGH.
UM, ALSO MOST OF THE, UH, RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS, IT WOULD FEED THE MOST, UH, LESS PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO CROSS THE ROAD, UH, IF IT WAS ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THAT INVESTIGATION HAS COME FROM, AND THAT, THAT'S A BIG, A BIG PART.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING PRETTY HARD OVER THE LAST THREE OR FOUR MONTHS WEIGHING OUT ALL OF THE, THE DIFFERENT, UH, REASONS, UH, AND, UH, JUSTIFICATIONS FOR PUTTING THE SIDEWALK ON THAT SIDE.
I THINK THERE'S LESS HOMES ALSO OUT THERE ON THAT SIDE.
YES, THERE'S LESS HOMES ON THE OTHER SIDE, YES, IN GENERAL, UM, POPULATION DENSITY IS MORE SO ON THE SIDE THAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO.
AND I WILL SAY, UH, WHEN WE REPRESENTED THE GRANT WITH THE KNOWLEDGE I HAD AT THE TIME, I BELIEVED IT WAS MADE THE MOST SENSE TO BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THEN SWITCH OVER AT SEACOR ROAD.
AND THE BENEFIT OF HAVING THE PROFESSIONALS LOOK AT THE VARIETY OF FACTORS, UM, CERTAINLY, UH, SWAYED ME TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TONIGHT IS, IS, UM, CERTAINLY THE BEST.
NO, I BICYCLE ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE A LOT.
UM, AND, UM, I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATION MAKES LIKE A LOT OF SENSE.
AND LIKE YOU SAID, IT REALLY IS GREAT.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A WHOLE RESIDENTIAL AREA, UM, WHERE THEY'LL BE ABLE TO LEAVE THEIR HOMES AND JUST WALK DOWN, YOU KNOW, DOWN, DOWN THE STREET.
I THINK YOU CAN GET A LOT MORE PEDESTRIAN, UH, USE AND BICYCLE, YOU KNOW, USE MM-HMM.
SO IS THAT A DELINEATED, SORRY, IS THAT A DELINEATED BIKE LANE? AND IS IT TWO WAY? HOW DOES THAT WORK? UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S, IT'S NOT DELINEATED.
YOU WOULD NEED TO HAVE FIVE FEET, UM, AND THEN SOME KIND OF, UH, AN OFFSET AS WELL.
IT'S A SHARED LANE, A SHARED, IT'S A SHARED LANE.
UM, THE TERMINOLOGY WIDE CURB LANE, UH, IT, NEW YORK STATE, D O T CAME UP WITH STATE D O T CAME UP WITH, WITH THAT.
I, I, I DISAGREE WITH THE TERMINOLOGY, BUT, UH, SO IT'S JUST REALLY A SHARED LANE.
UM, THERE ALSO, THERE'S A, A FEW AREAS WHERE PROPERTY IS TIGHT, SO, UM, HAVING A SIDEWALK ON THIS SIDE ALLOWS US ALSO TO SHIFT THE ROAD SLIGHTLY TO, UH, WE'LL CALL IT THE LEFT, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PICTURE, TO AVOID PROPERTY IMPACTS.
SO WE WORKING WITH D O T TO MOVE THE ROAD OVER A FEW FEET, WHICH WOULD ALSO GET BETTER SIGHT DISTANCE AROUND A COUPLE OF THE CURVES THAT ARE OUT THERE TOO.
SO THERE'S OTHER BENEFITS THAT COME WITH IT TOO.
SO IT'S A LOT EASIER TO MOVE THE ROAD OVER TWO FEET, THEN TRY TO ACQUIRE THREE MORE PROPERTIES, PIECES OF PROPERTY.
SO THOSE, THOSE ARE ALL THE THINGS THAT THE ENGINEERING REALLY DICTATES AND THAT, THAT DRIVES A DECISION HERE TOO.
SO, SO THAT MEANS TEARING UP THE WHOLE ROAD AND CHANGING THE PITCH WHERE LOCATION AND JUST IN SOME LOCATIONS, CORRECT.
SO, UM, PART OF THIS PROJECT IS, IS NOT TO, UH, REPAVE THE ENTIRE ROAD.
UH, NEW YORK STATE, D O T DOES HAVE IT ON THEIR SCHEDULE AT SOME POINT, AND WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH THEM TO CHANGE THAT.
UH, THEY WON'T DO IT YET BECAUSE IT'S A LITTLE, IT'S A FEW YEARS AWAY, BUT TO HAVE THAT WORK DONE AT THE SAME TIME SO THAT WE CAN, UH, WE CAN HAVE A NICE SMOOTH SURFACE ON THE ROAD AT THE SAME TIME, UM, IT'S REALLY UP TO THEM.
UM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO WORK HARD AND THEY, THEY USUALLY DO COME AROUND.
I'VE, I, UH, WORKED AT REGION EIGHT D O T 33 YEARS AGO, AND THE, IT'S A LITTLE EASIER TO TO, UH, TO WORK OUT THOSE THINGS NOW SCHEDULE-WISE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT OUR BEST SHOT AND WE'RE PRETTY SURE WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN.
SO, SO DOES THIS MEAN THERE'S GOING, THERE WILL BE A, UH, A LOT OF BICYCLES AT THE TRAIN STATION, BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE THEM HOME BECAUSE THESE ARE ALL EASTBOUND.
HOW DO YOU GO BACK HOME? WESTBOUND? YEAH, WESTBOUND WOULD BE TO, UH, SHARE THE LANE AS THEY DO TODAY.
UM, AND, AND, UH, JUST THAT'S PART OF THE SHOULDER.
I'M HOPING THAT THE, WHEN THE PA ROAD IS REPAVED, THEY ALSO PROVIDE A, A BETTER SHOULDER.
WE'RE GONNA ALSO CORRECT A LOT OF THE DRAINAGE DEFICIENCIES THAT THAT END UP, UM, CAUSING THE POTHOLES AND CRACKS AFTER JUST A FEW YEARS OF, OF PAVING.
SO WE'VE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF THOSE LOCATIONS AND, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT, IT SHOULD BE IMPROVED WITH, IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE DRAINAGE THAT WE WOULD ENCOMPASS AS PART OF THIS PROJECT WITH, WITH A NEW VERTICAL FACE CURB OR AS, AS WHAT I HAVE IN THE NEXT SLIDE, YOU KNOW, A CONCRETE GUTTER.
THE, THE NEW YORK STATE D O T HAS, HAS REACHED OUT TO US AND, UM, THEY DO HAVE PLANS TO FIX A FEW AREAS AS PART OF THEIR OWN FORCES AS A SEPARATE PROJECT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE DRAINAGE AREAS THAT ARE, ARE PROBLEMATIC OR, OR THAT HAPPEN QUITE FREQUENTLY.
UH, PARTICULARLY AROUND BEACHWOOD IS ONE THAT THEY PLAN TO ADDRESS.
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I BELIEVE BEFORE THE THE SEASON ENDS, THEY, THAT WAS THEIR GOAL IS TO TRY TO GET SOMETHING COMPLETE AND IN THE GROUND TO CORRECT THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE.SO NOT EVERYTHING WILL BE INVOLVED WITH OUR PROJECT.
YOU KNOW, THE D O T WILL HAVE THEIR OWN, THEIR OWN PIECES TO IT, BUT WHATEVER THEY DON'T HAVE, WE WILL ADDRESS AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
IF THEY, IF, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE D O T AND WE COULD GET THINGS DONE, YOU KNOW, UH, BEFORE THE SIDEWALK.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS THAT I HAVE WHEN I'M BICYCLING, UM, AND I WAS JUST BICYCLING UP AND DOWN LAST WEEK, UM, IS THAT THE ROAD IS NOT EVEN WITH THE SHOULDER.
SO, UH, SO YOU COULD BE ON, UH, ON THE ROAD AND THE SHOULDER COULD BE MAYBE A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LIKE A HALF AN INCH, UH, OR A QUARTER OF AN INCH, A LITTLE LESS.
SO IF THERE'S A CAR THAT'S SPEEDING, UH, IT'S EASY TO FALL OFF THE BICYCLE BECAUSE, UM, BECAUSE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU START, YOU KNOW, TURNING THE WHEEL, YOU'RE GONNA FALL, YOU KNOW, FALL OVER.
SO I, I'VE COMPLAINED FOR AT LEAST FIVE YEARS ABOUT THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, IF THEY JUST MADE IT THE SHOULDER EVEN, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE A GREAT SAFETY IMPROVEMENT.
UM, THE WORD TO USE IS EDGE DROP OFF.
THAT'S TO TERMINOLOGY WHEN YOU CALL NEXT TIME IS WHAT, THAT'S WHAT IT'S CALLED.
THEY, THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT TOO.
IT'S A, SO IT'S A MAJOR PROBLEM.
PART OF THAT, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CONCRETE THAT UNDERLIES, 'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT SOME UNEVEN SETTLEMENT THERE BECAUSE THOSE AREA OF THE SHOULDER IS NOT ON CONCRETE, UH, WHERE THE MAIN LINE OF THE ROAD IS.
SO YOU HAVE, UH, A BETTER FOUNDATION UNDER THE ROAD THAN YOU DO ON THE SHOULDER.
SO EVEN LIKE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET WHERE YOU'RE NOT DOING A SIDEWALK, EVEN IF THEY COULD WIDEN THE SHOULDER, THAT WOULD BE A, A GREAT, YOU KNOW, A GREAT IMPROVEMENT, UH, FOR BICYCLISTS WHO WANT TO GO DOWN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY WIDEN SOME OF THE SHOULDER YES.
WITHOUT DOING A SIDEWALK, THEN WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING DOWNHILL, UM, FROM WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, THEY MIGHT USE THE ROAD AND THEN THE PEDESTRIANS WOULD USE THE, THE BIKE PATH, I THINK MM-HMM.
UM, TO TALK, DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM FOR HAVING A FOUR FOOT SHOULDER THERE WOULD DEF DEFINITELY BE A BIG IMPROVEMENT.
SO IT'S, UM, THERE JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S ROOM FOR IT TOO AS WELL.
SO IT'S A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE WITH D O T.
IF YOU COULD DO THAT FOLLOW THROUGH, UM, WE CAN, WE JUST BE ABLE TO DOCUMENT THE, THE SHOULDER IN THE REPORT.
UM, BUT UM, THAT'S SOMETHING BEST COMING FROM THE SUPERVISOR WOULD BE THE BEST.
YEAH, I'LL, I'LL, I WILL DEFINITELY REACH OUT TO THEM MM-HMM.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT, I'VE WRITTEN TO THEM LIKE A BUNCH OF TIMES, BUT YOU SAID THAT THEY'RE AWARE OF IT ALSO.
IT, IT'S A VERY COMMON PROBLEM STATEWIDE, AND IT, IT'S, UH, UM, IT'S PART OF A, A SAFETY PROGRAM, TRANSPORTATION RESEARCH BOARD IN, UH, WASHINGTON DC HAS STUDIED EDGE DROPOFFS AND, UM, THAT IS A, A PRIMARY CAUSE OF RUN OFF THE ROAD ACCIDENTS AND SUCH.
SO IT, THERE IS A, A INSERT THEY PUT IN THE ASPHALT PAVERS THAT HELPED TO REDUCE THAT AS WELL.
SO IT, IT IS A, A THING THAT IS KNOWN AND UNDERSTOOD.
SO IF, IF YOU, UM, JUST KEEP MENTIONING IT AND, UH, PUSHING THEM WITH IT AND HOPEFULLY SOME YOU GET SOME TRACTION WITH IT WITH THEM.
YEAH, I WAS SERGEANT, I I I, I REMEMBER THERE WAS ONE PEDESTRIAN ACT, ONE MOTOR VEHICLE ACCIDENT ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE YEARS AGO I THINK IT WAS A FATALITY, BUT THERE HAVE, ARE YOU AWARE, HAVE THERE BEEN ANY LIKE PEDESTRIAN OR BICYCLE, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTS ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE? I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY, BUT I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO WITHOUT ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE, THE ACCIDENT.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING.
I DON'T THINK THERE WERE, BUT THERE ARE A LOT HILLCREST EDGE OF THIS WEST DALE THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN THIS ARTICLE.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO CHECK THAT? THE HILLCREST AND WEST DALE WHERE THERE'S NO TRAFFIC LIGHT? YEAH, YOU MEAN, YEAH.
UM, THAT WOULD BE INTERESTING.
SO I GUESS, UM, CONTINUING ON, UH, ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE THAT WE HAVE IS, IS CONCRETE GUTTER THAT PROVIDES A, LIKE A PERMANENT WHITE DELINEATION MARK, BASICALLY ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE ROAD.
AND WE WOULD PROPOSE THIS PARTICULAR, UM, UM, TREATMENT IN LOCATIONS WHERE THERE AREN'T A LOT OF EXISTING UNDERGROUND, UM, STORMWATER DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. SO AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE AN ENDLESS BUDGET TO DO MAJOR TRUNK LINES IN UNDERGROUND STORM WATER, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE.
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WE WOULD TRY TO UTILIZE WHAT'S OUT THERE AND, AND ABOVE GROUND CONVEYANCE WOULD BE A WAY TO DO THAT.YOU KNOW, WE WOULD CONTAIN OUR PUDDLE SPREADS.
BASICALLY THE STORM WATER FALLS FROM THE, OR THE WATER FALLS FROM THE SKY.
IT, IT LANDS ON THE PAVEMENT, IT COLLECTS AND IS CONCENTRATED IN A CERTAIN LOCATION.
SO WE WOULD HAVE IT CONCENTRATED WITHIN THE CONCRETE GUTTER, AND SO IT'LL SPREAD OUT AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT SPREADING OUT INTO THE TRAVEL LANE AND CAUSING ISSU ISSUES FOR VEHICLES.
SO THIS IS A WAY TO, TO CONVEY THE STORM WATER TO KNOWN LOCATIONS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE, UM, BASED ON OUR DETAILED SURVEY.
SO WE WOULD TRY TO COLLECT THE WATER AND POSITION IT AND, AND GET IT TO A POINT WHERE IT GETS INTO THE EXISTING SYSTEM.
SO THIS IS ANOTHER, ANOTHER TREATMENT OPTION THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
AND THIS IS KIND OF OUR SPOT LOCATIONS WHERE WE'VE GOTTA CONVEY THE WATER ABOVE GROUND.
UM, SO, UM, THAT SLOPE IN THE GUTTER WOULD, WOULD BE VERY CLOSELY MATCHED THE ROAD AND COULD BE UTILIZED FOR BICYCLES TOO, UM, ON THE, IN THE CONCRETE AREA.
SO, UM, JUST THIS IS WHAT YOU MIGHT SEE OUT THERE IN JUST A FEW LOCATIONS, REALLY.
IS THERE ANY, UM, POSSIBILITY, AND I KNOW THERE ARE TWO CAVEATS THAT AT LEAST TO USE OF POROUS PAVEMENT, AT LEAST FOR THE SIDEWALKS.
UM, IS IT DURABLE ENOUGH AND IS IT GOING TO BE, UM, THAT MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE? ARE THE TWO CAVEATS THAT, THAT I CAN THINK OF OFFHAND? I THINK TOM CAN HANDLE THAT ONE PRETTY WELL.
HE, HE'S VERY VERSED IN THE POOREST PAVEMENT.
I, THINGS WE HAVE TO CONSIDER OBVIOUSLY ARE GRADE, UM, LEAF LITTER, UM, YOU KNOW, EASE OF CONSTRUCTABILITY.
SO
UH, I PROBABLY AT ONCE A MONTH HERE ALONG SOMETHING OF THIS CLOSE TO THE ROAD.
SO, UM, UM, ALSO, UH, INFILTRATION OF THE WATER INTO THE GROUND.
UM, IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE, UH, VERY SMALL AREA AND IT WOULD, COULD UNDERMINE THE ROAD.
I KNOW THE STATE PROBABLY WOULDN'T ALLOW IT BECAUSE THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT MORE FROST HEAV 'CAUSE IT WOULD BE SO CLOSE TO THE ROAD.
BUT, UM, THE TRACTION QUALITY OF POROUS ASPHALT VERSUS WHEN IT'S WET VERSUS DRY IS, IS GREATLY IMPROVED.
SO, UM, NOT PARTICULARLY IN THIS CASE.
I WOULD RECOMMEND IT, BUT, UM, IT'S A REALLY GOOD QUESTION AND I WISH WE COULD, SO YEAH, SO I THINK CONTINUING ON, WE, WE JUST HAVE A COUPLE PICTURES, UM, OF SOME, UM, SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT WE'VE SEEN OUT THERE AND KIND OF THE CONSTRAINTS THAT WE'VE HAD.
SO I DUNNO, DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE ON WITH SOME OF THEM, TOM? UM, YEAH, JUST AT, AT BEACHWOOD ROAD, THIS IS THE AREA THAT THE STATE HAS AGREED TO COME OUT AND, AND DO SOME MITIGATION FOR IT TO REPAIR SOME OF THIS BEFORE OUR PROJECT IS, IS ENACTED.
THIS IS THE, WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT WHERE UHHUH WITH THE DROP OFF MM-HMM.
SO THAT RIGHT THERE IS JUST A THIN OVERLAY ON TOP OF THE EXISTING, UH, PAVEMENT WHERE THEY DID HAVE THAT MINOR DROP OFF.
SO, SO IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION, AS, AS I'M SURE THE, THE TOWN BOARD KNOWS THAT LAST YEAR RIGHT ABOUT WHERE THIS CAR IS, THERE WAS A SEEP IN THE ROAD, AND I THINK IT, YOU KNOW, YOU WENT OUT AND DID SOME INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE THAT IT WASN'T AN ACTUAL WATER MAIN BREAK AND IT WAS MORE OF A, A STORM WATER RELATED ISSUE.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE ISSUE THAT I REFERENCED EARLIER THAT D O T IS AWARE OF, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ADDRESSING RIGHT NOW.
THEY ASKED US FOR OUR EXISTING GROUND SURVEY SO THAT WAY THEY COULD DO, UM, A DESIGN THAT, THAT, UM, ADDRESSED THIS PARTICULAR ISSUE.
UM, SO THESE ARE JUST TWO EXAMPLES OF STORMWATER THAT'S FLOWING ABOVE GROUND.
UM, AND I THINK WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVE YET TO, TO GET THE DE THE DESIGN FROM D O T AND EXACTLY HOW THEY'RE GONNA ADDRESS THIS.
BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT, PUT THAT IN, IN PLACE NOW SO THAT WAY WHEN THE SIDEWALK COMES IN, WE'RE NOT RIPPING OUT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S ALREADY BEEN PUT DOWN, SO IT'S NOT A WASTE OF MONEY, UM, OR SOMETHING THAT'S REDONE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE COORDINATING WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S, UM, THERE'S NO OVERLAP OF SERVICES.
Y YEAH, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GETTING ALMOST LIKE WEEKLY, UH, EMAILS AND CALLS FROM RESIDENTS THAT THE WATER, UH, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN FLOWING, YOU KNOW, NONSTOPS SINCE I'D SAY LAST YEAR FOR AT LEAST A YEAR.
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ARE CONCERNED THAT, UM, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S FREEZES THAT IT'S GONNA BE DANGEROUS.SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE, AND YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN RIDING TO THE STATE AND THEY SAID THEY'RE FOLLOWING UP, BUT IT'S STARTING TO GET COLD AND THE WATER IS STILL, IT'S COMING, THE CLOCK IS TICK.
THE THE CLOCK IS TICKING ON THAT.
SO YEAH, HOPEFULLY THEY GET OUT THERE SOON.
SO THAT'S A REALLY BIG SAFETY ISSUE.
UM, ONE OF THE TIGHT AREAS THROUGH HERE, UM, THE RETAINING WALL.
AND, UH, AT FIRST GLANCE WE, WE LOOKED AT, UH, POSSIBLY REPLACING THAT WALL, UH, TO ALLOW ROOM FOR THE SIDEWALK ON THAT SIDE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUR FIRST LOOK AND WE'VE BEEN DILIGENTLY LOOKING AT PROBABLY A DOZEN DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET AROUND THAT AND STILL PROVIDE WHAT WE NEED THROUGH HERE AS FAR AS SIDEWALK AND, UH, SATISFY THE OBJECTIVES.
SO WE, WE HAVE A GOOD PLAN THAT WE THINK IS GONNA WORK.
UM, SO, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, UH, DILIGENTLY TRYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING FALLS INTO PLACE.
THAT INCLUDES RELOCATING SOME POLES, POSSIBLY, UM, AND WORKING WITH CON EDISON IF WE HAVE TO, JUST IN A LIMITED CAPACITY.
WE'RE TRYING NOT TO MOVE ANYTHING.
UH, BUT, UM, THIS IS ONE OF THE TIGHT AREAS THAT, UM, WE'RE SPENDING, YOU KNOW, A DECENT AMOUNT OF TIME ON TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE VET THIS PROPERLY.
IT'S POSSIBLY THE SIDEWALK COULD BE FOUR FEET HERE INSTEAD OF FIVE.
UM, THAT WOULD, UH, THAT'S OKAY.
WE'VE ALSO CLEARED THAT WITH D O T.
UH, WE, WE DID THAT, UH, YESTERDAY, UH, MADE SURE THAT THEY WERE OKAY WITH THAT.
UH, BEFORE THIS MEETING, WE WANTED TO BE ABLE TO TELL YOU THAT, SO SOMETIMES YOU CAN HAVE, UH, NARROW A SIDEWALK NARROWER THAN FIVE FEET.
YOU CAN DO THAT, UM, WHEN CERTAIN CONSTRAINTS, UH, EXHIBIT THE, THE CHALLENGE THAT IT DOES THAT, THAT DOES HERE.
SO, UH, WAS IT, IS IT FIVE FEET RULE BECAUSE OF A D A? YES, YES.
SO WOULD THE FOUR FEET STILL COMPLY WITH A D A IT, YES, IT WOULD, UM, CONVERT LIMITED DISTANCES AND, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE'VE CLEARED THAT AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA USE THE DRIVEWAY OPENING THERE AS A, WHERE IT WIDENS OUT THE FIVE FOR PASSING AREAS AND THAT FITS WELL WITHIN THE CRITERIA, SO IT WILL STILL BE COMPLIANT WITH THE AADA A GUIDELINES.
SO I THINK THE TRADE OFF, UH, FOR THAT IS, IS, UH, COULD BE, COULD BE WELL WORTH IT.
AND, AND, AND TIME AND FUNDS AS WELL FOR CONSTRUCTION, WHERE YOU PICK UP THE EXTRA TWO FEET OUT THAT HE FOUND RIGHT ON THE OTHER SIDE AND, UH, YEP.
SO, SO BASICALLY FROM THE FACE OF THIS WALL TO ABOUT THE EDGE OF THIS UTILITY POLE THAT WOULD INCOMP, THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE A FOUR FOOT WIDE SIDEWALK CURB, UH, 13 FOOT, 13 FOOT WIDE TRAVEL LANE, UH, YOU KNOW, 11 FOOT ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE AND THEN TWO FOOT SHOULDER.
SO THESE, THIS POLE HERE, AND THEN THE ONE UP THE ROAD, WE WOULD, WE WOULD LOOK TO RELOCATE WITHIN THE HIGHWAY BOUNDARY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'D STILL BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN ACCESSES TO THESE DRIVEWAYS.
UM, LIKE TOM SAID, THE ALTERNATIVE IS REMOVING THIS WALL.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE WOULD REPLACE IT WITH A WALL.
IT COULD BE A PRECAST MODULAR BLOCK OR, YOU KNOW, CAST IN PLACE, BUT YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE SAME LOOK AND FEEL AS YOU WOULD WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THEN, THEN YOU HAVE RIGHT NOW, AND PLUS THERE'S, THERE'S THE VEGETATION, THE, YOU KNOW, THAT SHIELDS THE HOUSE FROM THE ROADWAY THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO, UM, PLUS THAT WALL ON THE RIGHT AWAY.
THIS, THAT WALL IS WITHIN THE D O T RIGHT OF WAY RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND THESE ARE THE REASONS WHY YOU CAN USE A FOUR-FOOT SIDEWALK THROUGH HERE FOR THESE CONSTRAINTS THAT PETE IS TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.
SO, UM, JUST PART OF, PART OF THE PROCESS AND, AND THIS IS HOW THE FEDERAL PROCESS WORKS, AND THIS GETS DOCUMENTED, IT GETS VETTED, REVIEWED AND, AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS HERE.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE THE OPTION TO GO TO A 12 FOOT LANE TOO, IF WE, IF NECESSARY THERE.
SO MOVING UP THE ROAD TO THE INTERSECTION WITH MAPLEWOOD, THERE'S THE EXISTING, UH, BOULEVARD GRASSED MEDIAN AREA THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IS A WIDE, IT WOULD HAVE A WIDE AREA OR A WIDE LENGTH TO, FOR PEDESTRIANS ACROSS ONCE A SIDEWALK IS THERE.
THE IDEA THAT WE ARE COMING UP WITH RIGHT NOW IS TO POTENTIALLY EXTEND THIS, THIS CURBED, UM, ISLAND OUT AS TO ACT AS A PEDESTRIAN REFUGE.
SO BASICALLY PEOPLE WOULD CROSS FROM, FROM RIGHT HERE TO A LOCATION IN THIS LO UM, IN, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE INTERSECTION AS A, AS A KIND OF A WAITING POINT, AND THEN CONTINUE ACROSS SO YOU'RE NOT COMPLETELY EXPOSED TO VEHICLES FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, THE FULL 75
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FEET.UM, THAT ALSO REDUCES THE SPEED AT WHICH THEY TURN LEFT INTO THAT ROAD AS WELL, JUST LIKE WE HAD ON EAST HARTSDALE.
SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF, UH, SAFETY FACTORS AND TRAFFIC CALMING THAT, THAT, THAT JUST A SMALL PIECE OF AN EXTENSION CAN REALLY PROVIDE.
SO ANOTHER CONSTRAINED AREA, AS I'M SURE PEOPLE HAVE SEEN, IS THE EXISTING ROCK OUTCROP AND, AND EMBANKMENT AREAS BY, I THINK THERE'S AN EXISTING CHURCH IN THIS LOCATION.
THIS IS BETWEEN THE FIRE STATION AND SEACO ROAD.
SO IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION WE'VE LOOKED INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO REMOVE THIS ROCK OUTCROP.
WE, WE HIRED A GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEER TO GO OUT AND SURVEY THE ROCK, KIND OF ASSESS THE, THE CHARACTERISTICS OF IT, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO BE REMOVED, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE LAYBACK SLOPE WOULD NEED TO BE.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND THEN THAT WOULD HELP US DETERMINE HOW MUCH RIGHT OF WAY INVOLVEMENT WOULD, WOULD BE NEEDED IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION.
AND IT'S EXTENSIVE AND THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF COMPLETING THE REPORT, BUT THEY'VE GIVEN US SOME, SOME INDICATIONS ON WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE, AND IT WOULD, IT WOULD EXTEND BACK INTO THAT SLOPE.
SO ONE THING THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE IS POTENTIALLY SHIFTING THE ROADWAY.
UM, SO ON THIS RIGHT HAND PICTURE, SHIFTING THE ROADWAY TO THE RIGHT A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE THE SIDEWALK, THERE IS RIGHT AWAY, UM, AVAILABLE ON THAT SIDE OF THE ROAD, UM, THAT WE COULD UTILIZE.
BUT, UM, THAT'S, THIS IS ONE LOCATION THAT WE'RE, WE'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF, OF HAMMERING OUT SOME OF THE DETAILS.
UM, SO THAT'S, I GUESS THOSE WERE SOME OF THE, THE CONSTRAINED AREAS THAT JUMPED OUT TO US.
UM, BUT I GUESS WE WANNA OPEN IT UP TO SOME QUESTIONS NOW.
I KNOW WE'RE KIND OF RUNNING SHORTER ON TIME, BUT I WANT TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST FIELD SOME QUESTIONS IF ANYONE HAS ANY ON THE, ON THE WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE SIDE.
WELL, BASIC TO MY CONCERNS ARE NATURALLY IS THAT WHAT IS THE BASIS TO SAY THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR THIS SIDEWALK IN THE FIRST PLACE? I KNOW IT LOOKS GOOD ON THE MAP, I KNOW IT CONNECTS A TO B AND AND ALL THAT, BUT WHERE ARE THE PEDESTRIANS GONNA COME FROM? NUMBER ONE, MR. FINER, OF COURSE, IS A VERY AVID BICYCLIST.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE BICYCLISTS IN PAX ON CENTRAL AVENUE ON WEEKENDS.
UH, DOES HE EXPECT HE WILL BE JOINED BY SIMILAR PACKS OF BICYCLISTS GOING UP THE HILL ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE? OR, OR WILL HE BE THE ONLY BICYCLE RIDER THAT WILL BE USING THIS? THAT'S, THAT'S ONE AREA OF CONCERN THAT I, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE IS REALLY, IF THIS WERE A PRODUCT, A MARKET FOR THIS SIDEWALK.
UH, IF IT'S OKAY, THERE ARE ADDRESS THAT, IF IT'S OKAY, IF WE COULD ADDRESS IT ONE QUESTION AT A TIME.
WELL, IT'S THE SAME PART OF THAT QUESTION.
THERE ARE SCHOOLS ON THIS, BUT FROM WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE TO THE WOODLAND SCHOOL IS QUITE A WALK.
SO THE STUDENTS ARE ALL TAKING BUSES TO GO TO WOODLAND SCHOOL, AS WELL AS THE PRIVATE SCHOOLS ON BOTH SIDES OF WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
SO I DON'T SEE THAT THIS IS A SIDEWALK FOR THE KIDS, SO I'M REALLY KIND OF WONDERING WHO'S GONNA USE IT.
YEAH, PART OF THE, THE DECIDE, OH, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
THE, THE, THE PROJECT IS PART OF THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVES PROGRAM, AND THAT IS TO PROVIDE ALTERNATE MEANS OF TRANSPORTATION BESIDES MOTORIZED VEHICLES.
UM, THE SIDEWALK IS THERE, UH, WILL, WILL BE, WOULD BE PUT IN, UH, FOR PEOPLE TO USE IT, AND WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO USE IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT, UH, THROUGH THE CORRIDOR.
AND, UH, I DON'T THINK TOO MANY FAMILIES WOULD WALK, WALK THERE ON THE SHOULDER WITH THEIR YOUNG CHILDREN, BUT NOW THEY WILL.
WE'RE TRYING TO PROMOTE THE USE OF NON-MOTORIZED VEHICLES TO INVOLVE YOUR TRANSPORTATION.
THE BICYCLES, UH, 12 FEET, UH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE 11 FOOT LANE AND A TWO FOOT SHOULDER.
WE'RE JUST TAKING THAT 13 FEET AND KEEPING 13 FEET.
IT JUST MAKES IT A LITTLE BIT CLEARER FOR THE BICYCLISTS TO USE AND SHARE.
THE ROAD ALLOWS THE VEHICLES TO MOVE OVER WITHOUT GOING OUT OF THEIR LANE AS WELL.
SO, UM, IT, IT'S REALLY A, A, A, A PROJECT TO PROMOTE THE USE OF ALTERNATE MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
WE DID, UM, UH, BEFORE SENATOR COUSINS GAVE US THE GRANT, UH, WE DID AN ONLINE PETITION, AND I BELIEVE
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WE HAD 1100 SIGNATURES, UM, FROM RESIDENTS OF, UM, UH, THE TOWN, UH, ASKING FOR, UM, UH, FOR THE SIDEWALK.AND I THINK THAT PERSUADED THE SENATOR OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS.
WE ALSO MET WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, UH, UH, LEADERS, UM, WHO ADVOCATED, I KNOW, UM, THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER THE YEARS THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE, UH, WHO MENTIONED THAT THEY WOULD WALK, UH, TO CENTRAL AVENUE.
THIS COULD BE REALLY GREAT FOR, UH, THE CENTRAL AVENUE, THE BUSINESS DISTRICT, AND EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
YOU HAVE THREE SCHOOLS, SOLOMON SHEER, UH, WOODLANDS, AND MARIA REGINA, WHERE STUDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, DURING BREAKS COULD GO TO HARTSDALE OR CENTRAL AVENUE.
SO I, I, IF WE WANNA REVITALIZE THE FOUR CORNERS AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, MIXED USE HOUSING OR WHATEVER, I THINK THAT THIS IS THE TYPE OF, UH, UH, IMPROVEMENT THAT COULD ACTUALLY HELP REVITALIZE THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, FOUR CORNERS, THE CONCEPT BEING BUILT A FIELD, AND THEY WILL COME, WE ARE THINKING FORWARD RATHER THAN WHAT IS, BUT WHAT CAN BE.
AND, UM, I THINK STATISTICS SHOW, AND I, I SHOULD DEFER TO THE EXPERTS THAT A LOT OF, UM, YOUNG PEOPLE ARE NOT DRIVING AS EARLY.
THEY'RE NOT TAKING, THEY'RE NOT RUSHING TO GET THEIR LICENSES AS WE WERE.
THEY RATHER TAKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
THEY'D RATHER USE OTHER CONVEYANCES, WHETHER IT'S BICYCLE OR THEIR OWN TWO FEET.
I THINK LASTLY, I THINK YOU CANNOT UNDERESTIMATE THE, UM, SIGNIFICANT POPULATION DENSITY THAT IS IN FEEDER STREETS.
AND THAT'S BOTH MULTI-FAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY.
UM, SO STARTING OUT IN THE CORRIDOR, THERE'S MORE MULTIFAMILY AS YOU'RE NEAR FOUR CORNERS.
BUT IF YOU THINK ABOUT SEACO ROAD, SEACO ROAD OF 2030, MY HOPE IS THAT THERE'S A SIDEWALK DOWN SEACO ROAD.
IF YOU CONNECT SEACO ROAD TO THIS POINT, UH, AND, AND WE ARE IMPLEMENTING A, UM, UH, PEDESTRIAN SIGNALIZATION AT SEACOR ROAD IN WEST HARSDALE AVENUE, YOU NOW OPEN THIS WEST HARSDALE AVENUE SIDEWALK TO HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF RESIDENTS POETS CORNERS.
UM, AND THAT, THAT'S THE GREENBERG OF 20 30, 20 40.
UM, WE, WE REALLY HAVE TO THINK ALONG THESE LINES, BUT GARRETT, THE POPULATION THAT YOU WANNA OPEN UP IS NOT ON THE SAME SIDE THAT THE SIDEWALK IS BEING BUILT.
AND YES, THERE IS A TRAFFIC LIGHT AT SEACOR ROAD, BUT WHERE ELSE CAN YOU CROSS SAFELY FROM ONE SIDE OF WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE TO THE OTHER CENTRAL AVENUE SEACOR ROAD IN BETWEEN? WHERE ELSE DO YOU HAVE SAFE CROSSING? SO ALL THE POPULATION YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FROM FEEDER ROADS IS COMING FROM THE SIDE OF THE WEST HARSDALE AVENUE WHERE THERE IS NOT GOING TO BE A SIDEWALK BUILT.
NOW, OTHER THINGS THAT COME TO MIND ARE TOWN HAS A LOCAL LAW THAT PROPERTIES FRONTAGE OF A SIDEWALK, THEREFORE BECOMES THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE HOMEOWNER OR PROPERTY OWNER.
NOW, THIS IS A, TRULY IS A STATE ROAD.
SO I HAVE A QUESTION HERE IS WHO WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PLOWING THE SNOW, WHICH YOU SUBJECT TO FINE IF THIS SIDEWALK IS BUILT.
IS THE OBLIGATION OF THE PROPERTY OWNER WITH FRONTAGE CONSISTENT WITH MANY OF THE AREAS OF THE TOWN? SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOUR CLAIM IS THAT THE MOST HOMES FRONTING ON THIS ARE ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WHERE THE SIDEWALK IS TO BE BUILT.
I INDICATED POPULATION DENSITY IS FAVORED ON THIS SIDE.
OKAY, WELL, WE'LL SEE HOW WHEN THAT GETS KNOWN BY THOSE HOMEOWNERS, WHAT THEIR REACTION WOULD BE.
AND IN TERMS OF THIS GENERAL PHILOSOPHY OF BUILDING A SIDEWALK WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE AND USE, UH, AT THE SAME TIME ON CENTRAL AVENUE BETWEEN UH, HARVARD STREET OR HARVARD AVENUE AND ATCHISON BOULEVARD ON THE EAST SIDE OF CENTRAL AVENUE, THERE REMAINS A TWO BLOCK STRETCH, WHICH IS UN DESPITE BORDERING WEST WEBB FIELD PRESS OR PARK, AND THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET IS A SHOPPING CENTER.
WHERE IS THE STATE INVOLVED IN THAT AND WHERE IS THE TOWN INVOLVED IN GETTING THE STATE INVOLVED IN COMPLETING THAT SECTION? YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS BECAUSE I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH YOU FOR TWO YEARS NOW.
SO THERE'S A NEED, BUT FOR A VERY SHORT PIECE OF SIDEWALK, IF YOU WANT A VERY EVEN SHORT PIECE OF SIDEWALK THAT THE TOWN IS DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN, WHEN YOU LEAVE HERE TODAY, LOOK AT WHERE THE STREET IS, HILLSIDE AVENUE, WHICH HAS SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES AND WENT AND A BUS STOP RIGHT BY TOWN HALL.
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HOW DO PEOPLE GET FROM THOSE SIDEWALKS TO TOWN HALL? THERE IS NO SIDEWALK.THOSE PEDESTRIANS ARE EXPECTED TO WALK IN THE DRIVEWAY OF AN ACTIVE BUILDING.
SO WHEN YOU TELL ME ABOUT YOUR CONCERN FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND WHERE THERE IS A NEED FOR A SIDEWALK, I COULD GIVE YOU A MUCH LONGER LIST THAN A STREET WHERE YOU THINK POTENTIALLY THERE'LL BE PEDESTRIAN USAGE.
APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS MANY NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, I SURE DO.
NO, NO, NO DOUBT THAT THERE'S MANY NEEDS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND THANK YOU.
ANYONE ELSE? ANYONE ON ZOOM? PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
I THINK YOU DID A REALLY EXCELLENT JOB.
I'M REALLY, UH, VERY IMPRESSED AND I'M GLAD THAT, UH, WE SELECTED YOUR FIRM.
YEAH, WE'RE TEAM ON HOW MANY PROJECTS WE WORK TOGETHER.
ANY, ANY CLOSING COMMENTS? THAT WAS PERFECT.
IT, I DO HAVE ONE CLOSING COMMENT.
UM, IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS FOLLOWING THIS PRESENTATION, PLEASE UH, SEND AN EMAIL TO PLANNING@GREENBERGNY.COM AND WE WILL LOOK TO, UH, PROVIDE YOU WITH A RESPONSE.
BUT THANK YOU FOR EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED TONIGHT.