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UM, GOOD EVENING.UH, UM, WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION.
WE, WE HAVE TO GET THAT ONE CLEARLY, CLEARLY IT'S NOT WORKING RIGHT.
SO WHAT I SAID IS, LET'S GET THEM IN FIRST.
SO YOU, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE PART OF THE MEETING, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A PROMPT THAT SAYS, UH, ACCEPT PROMOTION TO THE MEETING.
UH, PLEASE SAY YES IF YOU WANT TO BE PART OF THE MEETING.
IF THE ECHO CONTINUES, WE'LL JUST VERBALIZE THAT AND YEAH, IT WON'T, WE'LL FIX IT.
UH, ED'S SO LELA, BUT ROB LELA? YES.
PERHAPS HE'S NOT PART OF THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION.
SO FEBRUARY 13TH, IT'S AFTER FIVE 30.
AND, UH, THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS, UH, YOU JUST NOT TALKING, JOE.
UH, PAUL, CAN YOU TALK TO MIKE BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOING, I, I AM TALKING AT THE MIC 86.
UM, DRAW MOORE ROAD DISCUSSION, GARRETT.
YEAH, NO, JUST TO BRIEFLY IN INTRODUCE, UM, JOE LUIN IS, UH, PROSPECTIVE PURCHASER OF THE 86 DRAW MOORE SITE, AND THEY SEEK TO, UM, PRESENT THEIR IDEAS FOR THAT PROPERTY IN THE CONTEXT OF A PRE-SUBMISSION CONFERENCE.
CAN YOU PLEASE TALK INTO THE MIC AND TURN? NO, I GOT YOU.
SO THEY, UH, DESIRE TO PRESENT TO THE TOWN BOARD AS A PRE-SUBMISSION CONFERENCE TO, UM, HELP ENABLE THEM TO MAKE, UH, DECISIONS ON WHETHER THEY WANNA MOVE FORWARD, PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, AND COME IN WITH AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIAL PERMIT FOR THE USE THAT THEY'RE ABOUT TO DESCRIBE.
JOE, I THINK YOU'RE UP AND IF YOU HAVE VIDEO, YOU CAN TURN IT ON.
OH, HE WAS THE ONE COMING, I BELIEVE ANTHONY GIOFFRE WAS GOING TO, OH, ANTHONY GIOFFRE BE THE MAIN PRESENTER.
UH, BUT I BELIEVE MR. LUCIN IS GONNA BE TAKING THE LEAD ON THIS PRESENTATION, AND I'LL BE OKAY.
AS LONG AS WE HAVE OUR ACT TOGETHER, THAT'S ALL THAT MATTERS.
JOE, WE CAN SEE YOUR SCREEN, BUT WE CAN'T HEAR YOU IF YOU'RE TALKING, IT'S ACTUALLY IN THERE.
SO ONE IS ON THE PHONE, I GUESS.
UH, MY NAME IS JOE LUCIN, A POTENTIAL PURCHASER OF 86 GROW MORE ROAD.
UM, I'VE SPOKEN TO GARRETT AND A FEW OTHER PEOPLE THERE, UM, AND A FEW OTHER CONFERENCES WANTED TO PRESENT, UM, AN IDEA THAT WE HAD, UH, ON THIS SITE.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON US, UM, WE ARE, UM, OWNERS OF A COMPANY CALLED, UM, MISTRAL ARCHITECTURAL METAL AND GLASS IN NEW YORK CITY.
UH, HE HAD A DEATH IN THE FAMILY, SO HE, HE'S OVERSEAS.
UM, WE BASICALLY HAVE A, UM, ONE OF THE LARGEST, UH, ARCHITECTURAL METAL AND GLASS COMPANIES IN NEW YORK CITY.
UH, WE DO A LOT OF, UM, OUR ARCHITECTURAL METAL WORK IN HOUSE AND GLAZING.
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SO PRETTY MUCH ALL THE CRAZY JOBS THAT NO ONE ELSE WANTS TO DO.UM, THIS PROJECT HERE, WE WON AN AWARD AT ONE WALL STREET FOR BEST LANDMARK, UH, METAL AND GLASS PROJECT.
UM, WE HAVE DONE WHAT PROBABLY YOU GUYS SEE ON INSTAGRAM IS THE OBSERVATION DECK AT THE SUMMIT, UH, WHICH IS A MIRROR CEILING, MIRROR FLOOR, KIND OF LIKE A, A MATRIX, UH, TYPE OF, UH, UH, FLOOR THAT THEY HAVE, UH, ON THE TOP FLOOR OF ONE VANDERBILT IN MANHATTAN.
UH, WE WANTED TO WORK FOR THIS FOR BEST GLASS PROJECTS, UM, AND THIS IS A NORDSTROM STORE IN MANHATTAN AS WELL.
WE DO A LOT OF CUSTOM DESIGN STAIRCASES, AND WE HAVE OUR OWN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AND ENGINEERS, UM, FABRICATION FACILITY IN WOODSIDE, IN QUEENS.
UH, WE HAVE OUR OWN INSTALLERS, UH, SO WE'RE, YOU KNOW, INTO THIS VERY, VERY HIGH END, UH, LOOKING CONSTRUCTION WORK.
UM, JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, COLD GLASS THERE THAT WE DID THAT, THAT HOVERS IN THE AIR, AND NOBODY CAN FIGURE OUT HOW WE DID IT, BUT IT'S, IT'S DONE AND IT HASN'T FALLEN DOWN YET.
UM, SO BASICALLY JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND ON WHO WE ARE, JOHNNY AND I ARE BOTH FROM CROATIA, WHICH IS THIS LITTLE, UM, LAND MAP HERE ACROSS FROM ITALY ACROSS THE ADRIATIC SEA.
UM, WE BOTH ABOUT 3.9 MILLION PEOPLE IN, IN POPULATION.
UM, NOT MANY PEOPLE HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT, SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU KIND OF A BACKGROUND OF WHERE WE'RE FROM.
UM, WE HAVE MORE THAN 1200 ISLANDS, UH, IN CROATIA.
IT'S ONE OF THE BIG, UH, BIGGEST SAILING PLACES IN THE WORLD WHERE EVERYONE COMES WITH THEIR SAILBOAT AND A YACHT.
UM, SOME NOTABLE PEOPLE THAT YOU PROBABLY DON'T KNOW ARE FROM CROATIA, MICHAEL BLE, THE, UH, SINGER LORD JOHN KOVICH, NICOLA TESLA, BILL BELICHICK, THE, THE COACH, UH, LYDIA
UM, UH, KIT PLI, TONY ROBBINS, UM, THAT'S ONE OF OUR HEART SHAPED ISLANDS.
UM, SOME INVENTIONS FROM CROATIA, WHICH UH, YOU GUYS PROBABLY NEVER HEARD OF, BUT WE'VE CREATED THE, UH, INVENTED THE PARACHUTE, UH, THE TORPEDO MP THREE PLAYER, THE MAG LIGHT FLASHLIGHT, THE BALLPOINT PEN, AND THE WIRELESS ENERGY TRANSMISSION.
UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO A SITE VISIT.
WE YEAH, AT SOME POINT YOU'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT DROVE ROAD, RIGHT? YEAH.
UH, FOR SPORTS, A LOT OF, UH, TENNIS, TENNIS PLAYERS AND SOCCER PLAYERS IN THE WORLD CUP MANY TIMES.
UH, CROATIA HAS THE FASTEST PRODUCTION CAR IN THE WORLD.
BUT WE'RE NOT HERE TO TALK ABOUT REIO.
WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT DRAW MA ROAD.
DID WE GET TO THAT PART OF YOUR PRESENTATION? SURE.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE RELEVANCE IS OF ALL THIS TO GET US IN THE MOOD.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'D LIKE TO DO THERE IS TO CREATE A, UH, CROW CULTURAL CENTER, WHICH IS WHY I GAVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE COUNTRY, JUST SO YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND WHERE WE'RE FROM AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, SO THIS WOULD BE A MEMBERS ONLY, UH, CLUB WHERE PEOPLE WOULD JOIN PROFESSIONALS, DOCTORS, ATTORNEYS, BUSINESS PEOPLE, AND, UH, GATHERING PLACE FOR THEM AND THEIR, THEIR FAMILIES.
THIS IS A KIND OF AN OVERVIEW OF 86
UH, WE PICKED THIS LOCATION BECAUSE IT HAS A LOT OF MATURE GREENERY THERE.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL SIX, 6.7 ACRE, UH, SITE.
UM, IT HAS ENOUGH SPACE FOR PARKING.
UM, WE, THE REASON I MENTIONED THE TENNIS AND THE SOCCER, UM, IS BECAUSE, UH, THERE ARE LOCAL TENNIS COURTS AND A SOCCER FIELD NEARBY, WHICH WE SPOKE TO THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AT THE SCHOOL THERE.
AND, UH, WE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO, UM, BE ABLE TO, TO BOOK THAT THOSE, THOSE, UM, TENNIS COURT AND SOCCER FIELDS.
UH, THAT IS THE LOT FULLY GREEN.
UH, THAT'S THE EXISTING MONASTERY THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE BUILDING OF THAT DEAD END ROAD ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE GREENBURG, UH, NATURE PRESERVE.
UM, THIS IS WHAT THE GOAL IS, IS TO, TO REDEVELOP AND REUSE THE PROPERTY FOR A CROATIAN CULTURAL CENTER AND PRIVATE SOCIAL CLUB WHERE MEMBERS CAN CELEBRATE CROATIAN HERITAGE AND HISTORY.
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DESIGN OF THE ELEVATION AND, AND THE BUILDING.UM, SO OUR GOAL IS TO SET UP A NON-PROFIT FOUNDATION.
UM, THE CONSTRUCTION OF A, A HIGH-END BUILDING, WHICH WE WOULD USE, YOU KNOW, REAL BRONZE WINDOWS, A LIMESTONE FACADE.
UM, IT WOULD BE A CENTRAL MEDIA PLACE FOR PROFESSIONALS, UH, TO PRESERVE THE CULTURE AND ARTS OF THE COUNTRY WHERE WE COULD CELEBRATE THE HERITAGE, THE SPORTS, UH, BUSINESS AND ARTS.
UM, AND THE GOAL WOULD BE TO RAISE FOR, UH, CHARITABLE ENDEAVORS LIKE SCHOLARSHIPS, GRANTS, FINANCIAL AID FOR CHILDREN THAT CANNOT AFFORD IT, UH, NURSING HOMES AND, AND, UH, BACK HOME AND DISA DISASTER RELIEF FUNDS.
THEY HAVE A, UH, SOME, UM, EARTHQUAKE IN CROATIA AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE IN NEED.
SO THIS WOULD BASICALLY HELP THEM REBUILD AND, AND GET THEIR LIFE BACK ON TRACK.
UM, THAT IS A, UH, BIRD'S EYE VIEW OF THE CENTER.
UM, THE, THE ROUNDABOUT DRIVEWAY, UH, THE POTENTIAL PARKING AREA.
AND AGAIN, WE WOULD HOLD, UH, SPEAKING EVENTS, LANGUAGE CLASSES, PICNICS, FOOD FAIRS, ART EXHIBITS, CONFERENCES, UH, SPECIAL EVENTS AND FUNDRAISERS THERE WITH, UH, SOME TYPE OF, UH, DINING HALL, A VERY NICE LIBRARY WHERE THE CHILDREN CAN READ AND, AND LEARN THE LANGUAGE.
UM, THAT IS KIND OF A 3D RENDERING OF, UH, ONE OF THE, OUR FIRST IDEAS.
SO WE WOULD HAVE A RESTAURANT THERE AND A BED SPACE LIBRARY, MEDIA ROOM, A GYM CLASSROOMS, COFFEE BOWL COURT, AND THAT IS THE END.
ARE YOU GONNA BE RE WHAT PERCENT OF THE EXISTING, UH, UH, BUILDING WOULD BE USED AND WHAT PERCENT WOULD BE, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, CONVERTED? I MEAN, HOW MUCH NEW CONSTRUCTION IS THIS? AND HOW MUCH OLD ARE YOU? IT WOULD BE ALL, HOW MUCH OF THE OLD BUILDING ARE YOU RETAINING THEN, THEN THEY'RE KNOCKING IT ALL DOWN.
AND, UM, WE WOULD, YEAH, WE WOULD NOT BE RETAINING THE, THE EXISTING BUILDING.
THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS DRUM MOORE ROAD IS VERY NARROW, ROAD AND WIND WINDY.
UM, AND, UM, WOULD, HOW MANY, UH, PEOPLE DO YOU EXPECT, YOU KNOW, TO VI TO VISIT THE, UH, THE CENTER, UM, SAY ON GIVEN DAYS, EVENINGS, WEEKENDS? AND COULD THE ROADS, UM, YOU KNOW, HANDLE IT? OR ARE YOU LOOKING AT EVEN, UM, MAKING CHANGES TO THE DRONE, DRONE WAR ROAD? UH, BECAUSE THAT, THAT, THAT'S BEEN AN ISSUE EVEN WITHIN THE HOUSING.
UM, AGAIN, IF WE HAD TO PAVE PART OF THE ROAD TO MAKE IT A LITTLE WIDER AND A LITTLE MORE ACCOMMODATING, UH, WE WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ON A DAILY BASIS WOULD BE THERE.
WE WOULDN'T NOT BE EXPECTING, UM, MANY PEOPLE DURING THE DAY.
MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE A, A BIGGER INFLUX WHEN THERE'S A SPEAKER SPEAKING EVENT OR SOME KIND OF FUNCTION.
UM, WE HAD SPOKEN LAST TIME WITH, UM, TRYING TO GET SOME KIND OF APPROVAL.
UM, IF ALL GOES THROUGH WHERE AFTER 4:00 PM WE COULD PARK AT THE GREENBURG NATURE PRESERVE, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE LIKE, I'M SORRY, THAT WAS NOT FROM US
UM, TO PARK AT THE, UH, NATURE GREENBURG PRESERVE, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THERE.
I BELIEVE THERE ARE LIKE 50 OR 60 SPOTS THERE.
UM, WE, WE ARE PLANNING ON, UM, MAKING ADDITIONAL PARKING ON OUR LOT.
UM, WE JUST VERY, UH, COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT THERE IS MATURE GREENERY THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE'D LIKE TO KEEP AS MUCH GREENERY AS POSSIBLE AND NOT CUT DOWN ANY TREES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
UH, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD KIND OF WORK, UH, WITH YOU TO FIGURE OUT THE PARKING SITUATION.
SO MY QUESTION, SO THIS CLUB IS ONLY FOR THOSE, UM, MEMBERS THAT ARE PART OF, WAS IT CROATIA? SO IT'S NOT FOR ANYONE ELSE? YEAH.
SO IT'S JUST, IT'S EXCLUSIVE TO ONLY NOT, IT'S NOT AN INCLUSIVE CLUB AT ALL FOR ANY MEMBERS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
I MEAN, IT IS A, A CROATIAN CLUB.
SO IF OBVIOUSLY, UH, SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO LEARN ABOUT THE CULTURE AND THE ARTS AND THE SPORTS THAT WOULD, UH, BE OPEN TO, TO, UH, TO JOIN.
AND, AND JUST, UH, ON THAT, THE, THE, THE USE THAT'S IN, IN THE R TWO, THE R 20 DISTRICT IS A PRIVATE CLUB OR A SOCIAL CLUB OPERATED BY A NONPROFIT MEMBERSHIP CORPORATION EXCLUSIVELY FOR THE MEMBERS OF THE GUESTS.
THAT'S THE USE AS PROVIDED IN THE CODE.
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A SPECIAL PERMIT.SO ANY WEDDINGS THAT WOULD OCCUR THERE, THEY WOULD BE CROATIAN YES.
AND HOW, HOW DO YOU REGULATE, HOW, HOW DOES THE TOWN REGULATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? I DON'T THINK WE CAN, WHAT? SAY THAT YOU CAN HAVE WEDDINGS, BUT THEY COULD ONLY BE FOR CREATION.
WELL, BECAUSE, WELL, THEY GO THROUGH THEM.
THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THEM SO THEY CAN DECIDE WHO THEY GET, WHO CAN HAVE THE, OR WOULD THE WEDDINGS OR THOSE EVENTS ONLY BE FOR MEMBERS OF THE CLUB? IT WOULD BE, YES, MA'AM.
SO, SO NO ONE FROM THE OUTSIDE PUBLIC WOULD BE ABLE TO, FOR EXAMPLE, RENT, UH, AN EVENT SPACE FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR OWN WEDDING, WHATEVER.
THIS IS STRICTLY FOR CLUB MEMBERS, LIKE, LIKE A COUNTRY CLUB IS LIKE WITH DUES AND THAT KIND OF THING? CORRECT.
IT WOULD BE A PAID MEMBERSHIP, UM, EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
AND THEN THEY WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO PAY FOR THE EVENTS.
UM, AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE A MEMBER AND YOU'RE BRINGING SOME GUESTS, THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE ALLOWED ON A, ON A DAILY BASIS.
IT WOULDN'T BE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO, THEY JOIN TO ACTUALLY BE THERE BY THEMSELVES.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT WOULD BE MEMBERS THAT WOULD BE SETTING UP EITHER A WEDDING OR, OR A BAPTISM OR A CHRISTENING.
ARE YOU FINISHED JURY? NO, I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT THE, THE FIELDS AND THE COURTS OF THE, WITH THE SCHOOL.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF RELATIONSHIP WERE YOU SUGGESTING OR USAGE WERE YOU SUGGESTING THERE COULD BE? SO I SPOKE WITH THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AT THE SCHOOL, AND HE MENTIONED THAT THERE IS A PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO BOOK THAT FIELD, UH, ONLY WHEN THE SCHOOL IS NOT USING IT.
SO IF WE ARE A NONPROFIT AND WE HAVE, LET'S SAY WE'RE, WE'RE VERY, VERY BIG IN SOCCER AND WE HAD A SOCCER GAME, WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO WORK AROUND THEIR SCHEDULE.
BUT IT IS POSSIBLE TO RENT THAT.
SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE TO BUILD ANY KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FIELD ON THIS PROPERTY.
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS AS WELL.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, IN LOOKING AT THE RENDERING, THE EVENT SPACE LOOKS QUITE LARGE.
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE YOU ANTICIPATING IT ACCOMMODATING? NINE.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK OFF O OFFLINE, SO IT'S NOT, UM, IT'S NOT EXACTLY THAT.
IT'S JUST A, THAT'S JUST AN IMAGE.
I WOULD FIGURE, UH, SEATED ANYWHERE FROM MAYBE A HUNDRED TO 150 PEOPLE.
UM, AND YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WOULD AVAIL YOURSELF OF PARKING OF THE GREENBURG NATURE CENTER.
UM, HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THEM AND INQUIRED ABOUT THAT? I HAVE NOT.
UM, THE LAST MEETING WHEN I SPOKE WITH GARRETT AND THE INSPECTORS, WE, WE HAD MENTIONED THAT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT OBVIOUSLY IF, IF, UH, WE GET A BLESSING ON THIS, THAT WE WOULD GO AND, AND SPEAK WITH THEM AND FIGURE THAT OUT.
I, I BELIEVE WHEN I CALLED, THEY SAID THAT THEY CLOSED AT 4:00 PM AND THEN TYPICALLY THE PARKING LOT IS EMPTY AT THAT, AT THAT TIME.
SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE THINKING OF AVAILING YOURSELF OF THE PARKING ONLY AFTER 4:00 PM YES.
I DON'T, I DON'T, PARKING THE PROPOSAL PROPOSES AN NOT GREAT PARKING LOT OF 132 PARKING SPACES, SO THAT WE WOULD JUST BE FOR OVERFLOW PARKING AS NECESSARY.
BUT OBVIOUSLY AFTER ONLY AFTER 4:00 PM UM, AND SOMETIMES THEY DO HAVE EVENTS, THEY'RE REGULAR HOURS ARE ONE TO FOUR, BUT THEY HAVE AN ACTIVE SCHEDULE OF EVENTS OF THEIR OWN.
WILL YOU EXTEND THE SAME COURTESY TO THEM? OF COURSE.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNG CHILDREN THERE, SO ARE YOU CREATING ANY KIND OF, UM, DEMARCATION SO THAT THEY, THEY'RE YOUR MEMBERS ARE NOT GOING THERE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULDN'T WANT, UH, THEIR, THE, THESE CHILDREN WANDERING ONTO YOUR PROPERTY, GETTING LOST OR WHATEVER, IF THEY'RE YOUNG CHILDREN TOO, I WOULD IMAGINE THEY WOULDN'T BE ALLOWED.
UM, SO YEAH, I MEAN, ALONG WITH THE MEMBERSHIP, THAT KIND OF GIVES US THE FREEDOM TO DECLINE ANYONE THAT IS NOT, LET'S SAY, ACTING PROPERLY OR, OR IN LINE WITH, WITH WHAT THIS NONPROFIT IS ALL ABOUT.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANT.
THE DECLINE MEMBERSHIP, WHAT I MEAN IN TERMS OF, UH, UM, SOME KIND OF, UM, BARRIER BETWEEN THE, THE TWO PROPERTIES, I'M SORRY, BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY IN GREENBURG AND THE GREENBURG NATURE CENTER.
SO IT, IT IS ACROSS THE STREET FROM, FROM DMAR.
IT'S NOT, I MEAN, IT'S DEMAR HATED BY TWO STONE FENCES, I BELIEVE.
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HOW THE LOT, UH, INTERACTED AND CAME AROUND.UM, LAST, LASTLY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SPEAKING TO THE SCHOOL ABOUT, UH, AVAILING YOURSELF OF THEIR, OF THEIR SPORTS.
WE'VE GOT PLENTY OF PARKLAND AND IN GREENBURG THAT, UM, SOME OF IT YOU CAN'T AVAIL YOURSELF OF, BUT THERE'LL BE A TENNIS FACILITY, FOR INSTANCE, IN PADDLE BALL THAT WILL BE OPEN TO, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT GREENBURG RESIDENTS.
SO, UM, I WAS WONDERING IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE CONSIDERING AS WELL.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.
YOU, YOU SAID THAT THERE WERE OTHER FACILITIES THAT, THAT HAD TENNIS AND, AND PADDLE BOWL.
THERE WILL BE A FACILITY BEING BUILT IN ONE OF OUR PARKS THAT WILL BE OPEN TO, UM, ANYONE.
SO I WAS JUST CURIOUS IF THAT YOU INTENDED TO AVAIL YOURSELVES OF THAT, BUT MAYBE YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THAT YET.
SO, I, I, I'M NOT, MA'AM, I HAD A QUESTION.
I REMEMBER WHEN THE DRONE WAR WROTE CONTROVERSY FIRST CAME UP, YOU KNOW, YEARS AGO, BILL LOYER, HE WAS THE HEAD OF THE GREENBURG NATURE CENTER, AND HE, UH, SPOKE TO ME AND, UM, EXPRESSED CONCERN ABOUT THE ECOSYSTEM BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE LOOKING AT A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT, UH, RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF THE GREENBURG NATURE CENTER.
AND, UH, THE CONCERN THAT, UM, UH, HE HAD, AND THIS WAS, YOU KNOW, OVER A DECADE AGO, WAS THE, THE MORE CONSTRUCTION, IT SORT OF CHANGES THE WHOLE ECOSYSTEM.
YOU KNOW, THE BIRDS, THE, THE ANIMALS, THE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT HAS AN IMPACT.
I'M SORT OF WONDERING FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, UM, IF YOU'D BE ABLE TO COMMENT ON THE IMPACT THIS WOULD HAVE ON THE NATURE CENTER.
AND I'M ALSO WONDERING IF YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO COMMENT, AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU MAY, IT'S NOT ONLY THE RELATIONSHIP YOU'D HAVE WITH THE NATURE CENTER, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT THE NATURE CENTER'S, THOUGHTS, THE BOARD OF THE NATURE CENTER'S THOUGHTS WOULD BE ON THE IMPACT IT WOULD HAVE ON THE WHOLE, UM, YOU KNOW, NATURE CENTER ENVIRONMENT.
YOU KNOW, YOU NOW HAVE A, YOU, YOU KNOW, 10 YEARS AGO YOU HAD NOTHING.
IT WAS JUST A NATURE CENTER BASICALLY, AND A A, UH, UM, A CONVENT FOR, FOR NUN.
NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, UM, A, A MAJOR CAR APARTMENT COMPLEX, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND, UM, THE WHOLE ATMOSPHERE GOING TO THE NATURE CENTER COULD REALLY BE, IT, IT'S A DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE, REALLY.
WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE ANIMALS? DIRECT TO QUESTION TOWARDS OUR, THE, AS YOU SAW FROM ONE OF THE, THE, UH, SLIDES, THE PROPOSED BUILDINGS IN THE LOCATION OF THE EXISTING MONASTERY BUILDING AT THIS POINT.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING THE BUILDING IN AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY DISTURBED.
UH, AND IT, IT'S TOO EARLY FOR US, BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO, IN THE, DURING THE SITE PLAN PROCESS, WE WOULD EVALUATE AS PART OF THE, THE SECRET PROCESS, THE STATE ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY REVIEW, UH, DOING ALL OF THOSE ANALYSES TO DETERMINE AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO IMPACT, AND TO THE EXTENT THERE'S ANY IMPACT, HOW THAT WOULD BE MITIGATED.
AGAIN, AGAIN, THE CONCERN I HAVE IS, I KNOW THE FOOTPRINT IS, YOU KNOW, THE SAME, BUT THE USE IS DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE CONVENT WAS PRACTICALLY NEVER USED.
I MEAN, NO, IT WAS REALLY QUIET.
NOW YOU'RE REALLY BECOME, NOT ONE TIME DID THEY HOLD A WEDDING WITH 130 PEOPLE AT THE CONVENT.
YEAH, I, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT TOO, BECAUSE YOU HAVE PEOPLE IN THE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT YOU'VE GOT TRAFFIC FROM, FROM THAT, AS WELL AS THE TRAFFIC GOING TO GREENBURG NATURE CENTER, AND NOW YOU HAVE A WEDDING THAT MAY INTERFERE.
SO THE TRAFFIC ON DRUM, MOORE ROAD AND, AND, UM, GARRETT, WHAT ARE THE CONSTRAINTS IN THE WIDTH OF DRMO ROAD? SURE.
WELL, PRESENTLY, DRILL MOORE ROAD IS, IS RATHER NARROW.
I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT WIDTH, BUT, UM, TOWN STANDARD ROAD'S, 26 FEET CURB TO CURB.
UM, THIS, UM, EXISTING ROAD IS LESS THAN 20.
UH, NOW THERE WILL BE SOME IMPROVEMENTS MADE BY THE MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPER.
THOSE WILL PRIMARILY BE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF GERALD MOORE ROAD.
AND I THINK THE GOAL WILL BE TO, UM, EXPAND THE WIDTH TO ABOUT 20 FEET WITH A CURB ON THE NORTH SIDE.
BUT, UM, EVEN WITH THAT DONE, YOU WOULD HAVE A 20 FOOT WIDE ROAD AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, TOWN STANDARD WOULD BE 26.
IS THERE ROOM TO EXPAND THAT WIDTH? THERE MAY BE, THERE MAY BE TO THE SOUTH, UM, ROOM TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS, UH, TO GET CLOSER TO A TOWN STANDARD.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE NATURE CENTER, YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS SAID IT'S LIKE THE CLOSEST THING TO HEAVEN
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OFF OF CENTRAL AVENUE.YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE IN ANOTHER AREA.
YOU DON'T FEEL YOU'RE IN AN URBAN ENVIRONMENT WHEN YOU GO TO THE NATURE CENTER.
IF YOU HAVE APARTMENT COMPLEXES AND, UM, AND A COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, YOU KNOW, IT JUST REALLY CHA AND A LOT OF ACTIVITY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU'RE STUCK IN TRAFFIC FOR A COUPLE MINUTES, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE, BECAUSE THERE'S AN EVENT AND YOU WANT TO TAKE YOUR CHILD, OR RELATIVE TO THE NATURE, TO THE NATURE SENSE OF THE ANIMALS, JUST REALLY LIKE, TO ME, IT JUST, UM, CHANGES THE WHOLE CHARACTER OF THE NATURE CENTER.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S THE CONCERN.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I, I, I BASICALLY, I'VE BEEN TO CROATIA, YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY, UH, REALLY LOVE THE, UH, THE CULTURE, YOU KNOW, WOULD LOVE HAVING A, A CULTURAL CENTER.
I JUST DON'T LIKE THE LOCATION THAT, I DON'T LIKE THIS LOCATION, BUT I LIKE THE IDEA OF HAVING A CULTURAL, A CROATIAN CULTURAL CENTER SOMEWHERE IN THE TOWN, BECAUSE I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO, UM, BE SUPPORTIVE OF, OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT I, I, I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE VERY HARD TO GET APPROVED, TO BE HONEST.
COULD I, COULD I ASK, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NATURE CENTER, AND I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT THE SUPERVISOR JUST SAID ABOUT THE NATURE CENTER, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THAT THERE WAS CONTROVERSY OVER THE EXISTING STRUCTURE WAS BECAUSE HOW CLOSE IT WAS TO THE NATURE CENTER AND WHETHER OR NOT THAT WOULD CAUSE A DISTURBANCE.
AND THE NATURE CENTER AT THAT TIME WAS NOT IN FAVOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT EITHER BECAUSE OF WHAT IT WOULD DO TO THE NATURE CENTER.
YOU'RE CLOSE TO IT, YOU'RE THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, NOW TO THE NATURE CENTER.
WHO IS IT AT THE NATURE CENTER THAT YOU SPOKE TO WHO IS BASICALLY ENCOURAGING YOU BY STATING THAT THERE'S PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE? THEY DIDN'T HAVE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, DIDN'T HAVE THAT CONVERSATION, CONVERSATION WITH THE SCHOOL.
SO YOU HAVE NOT HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE NATURE CENTER? NO.
WE HAVE NOT CONVERSED WITH THEM, NO.
WE SPOKE WITH GARRETT AND THE INSPECTORS IN THE LAST MEETING, AND I HAD JUST CALLED THEM TO FIND OUT WHAT THEIR HOURS OF OPERATION WERE, BUT WE HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO 'EM.
I SPOKE WITH THE, UH, DIRECTOR, THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR AT THE SCHOOL.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD CONVERSATION TO HAVE IF WE COULD MOVE ON.
NOW, UH, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT AS OF RIGHT AND YOU'RE GOING TO NEED VARIANCES.
UH, COULD YOU DESCRIBE THE VARIANCES THAT YOU'LL NEED AND THE MAGNITUDE OF THOSE? WHAT'S THE QUESTION FOR MR. RE? UH, I'LL ASK MR. CAPRIO TO WAIT AND HE PREPARED THE DRAFT PLAN.
UH, RIGHT NOW THERE'S A PARKING SPACE VARIANCE THAT APPEARS TO BE NEEDED.
THERE'S 140 PARKING SPACES THAT ARE REQUIRED.
WE'RE PROVIDING 132, SO IT'LL BE AN EIGHT SPACE VARIANCE.
UH, THE, THE CURRENT PLAN RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS NOT A FULLY VETTED, UH, PLAN RIGHT NOW, DOES SHOW A THIRD FLOOR.
UH, WHETHER OR NOT THAT THIRD FLOOR DOES, UH, IS CONSTITUTES A HALF STORY THAT WOULD THEN BE COMPLIANT.
BUT IF IT'S A FULL THREE STORY, THEN WE WOULD NEED A HALF STORY VARIANCE.
AND I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE TWO VARIANCES THAT WE NEED.
AND I'LL DEFER MR. CAPRIO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.
YEAH, NO, THAT'S, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, ANTHONY.
I THINK WE WE'RE ALL WITHIN, YOU KNOW, THE REQUIREMENTS, UM, LIKE YOU SAID, THE PARKING, UM, BASED ON AN ESTIMATED SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T GONE FURTHER AND, AND REALLY NARROWED THIS DOWN.
UM, BUT BASED ON AN ESTIMATED SQUARE FOOTAGE WITH THE FOOTPRINT YOU SEE ON THE SITE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE MORE OR LESS SHORT OF EIGHT PARKING SPOTS.
UM, TERMS OF SETBACKS, WE THINK WE'RE WITHIN RANGE.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE SITE PLAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE SITE PLAN THAT WE SUBMITTED.
UM, IN TERMS OF BUILDING HEIGHT, WE'LL, WE WILL BE WITHIN THE RANGE ON THE SETBACKS.
CAN YOU MEET, I'M SORRY, ON THE SETBACKS, CAN YOU MEET THE 200, UH, FOOT SETBACK FROM THE FRONT PROPERTY LINE? FROM A PROPERTY LINE? YEAH.
WHERE, HOW, HOW WIDE ACROSS TWO SIX.
HOW WIDE, HOW WIDE ACROSS IS THE PROPERTY ITSELF? UH, IT'S ABOUT 400.
IT LOOKS TO BE ABOUT A, IT'S, UH, 320 FEET WIDE.
300 OVER 320 FEET WIDE, IT LOOKS LIKE.
AND WHAT SETBACK DO YOU THINK YOU NEED? HOLD ON A SECOND.
ONE SIDE SETBACK IS 36 FEET, TWO SIDES IS 80 FEET, AND A REAR YARD SETBACK OF 64 FEET.
WHERE ARE YOU GETTING, WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THOSE SETBACKS FROM? SO I BELIEVE THAT'S THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
THE SPECIAL PERMIT CRITERIA, UH, HAS SETBACKS,
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UM, FOR THAT PARTICULAR USE.DO YOU HAVE THAT HANDY? UH, I CAN'T RECALL IF IT'S, IT'S, IT'S 100 OR 200.
SO THAT, THAT VARIANCE, UM, WOULD, WOULD BE NEEDED.
SO THE PROPERTY IS ABOUT 132 FEET WIDE, AND THE SETBACK IS 200 FEET, WHICH MEANS NO, 320 FEET WIDE.
UH, AND YOU HAVE A 200 FOOT SETBACK, SO YOU NEED A VARIANCE.
BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY, EV, EVEN IF IT WAS 400 FEET WIDE, THE ONLY THING YOU COULD PUT UP THERE WOULD BE A STICK.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE PLACING IT IN THE VERY CLOSE LOCATION TO WHERE THE EXISTING BUILDING IS.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANY FURTHER, UM, NON-COMPLIANCE, IF YOU WILL.
SO, UH, UH, JUST TO BRING THAT UP, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, AS SOON AS YOU TAKE DOWN THAT BUILDING, ANYTHING PREEXISTING GOES AWAY.
SO YOU CAN'T TAKE DOWN THE BUILDING AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THE SETBACK ON THE PREVIOUS BUILDING WAS YOU'RE STARTING WITH THE CODE AS IS AS OF TODAY.
AND YOU CAN'T SAY, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT USED TO BE.
AND CIRCLING BACK AROUND, UM, WE ASKED EARLIER THAT ABOUT, UM, THE CONSTRUCTION AND YOUR INTENT IS TO TEAR DOWN THAT EXISTING BUILDING AND BUILD SOMETHING TOTALLY NEW.
AND, UM, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SPOKE TO THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, AND WHAT WAS THAT EXCHANGE AND WHAT WAS THE FEEDBACK FROM THEM? SO WE HAD A FEW MEETINGS.
UM, WE PROVIDED THE INFORMATION THAT THEY REQUESTED, UM, TO BE PROVIDED.
THE, UM, PREVIOUS ARCHITECT WHO DID RENOVATIONS TO THE MONASTERY WHO FILED THE PREVIOUS PROJECT AS DON HISTORIC.
UM, I, I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S REALLY NOTHING HISTORIC ABOUT THE EXISTING BUILDING.
AND, UH, WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY.
I I JUST THINK, I JUST REALLY THINK THERE, AND I WAS JUST THINKING BEFORE THERE'S AN APARTMENT COMPLEX NEAR DRMO ROAD.
I'VE ALREADY BEEN GETTING COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE HOUSING, THE NOISE, THE, THE QUALITY OF LIFE OF RESIDENTS IS BEING IMPACTED BY THE CONSTRUCTION.
NOW, BY TIME, LET'S SAY YOU DECIDED TO PURSUE THIS, NOT ONLY WILL YOU HAVE THAT COMPLEX, BUT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE RIGHT NEXT TO IT, NEXT TO WHERE YOU WANT TO BUILD A NEW APARTMENT COMPLEX.
UM, SO THE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE THERE, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE MOVING IN BECAUSE THEY WANT TO HAVE PEACE AND QUIET AND, UH, ENJOY A, A BEAUTIFUL LOCATION NEAR THE NATURE CENTER, THEY'RE GONNA GO BALLISTIC BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE GONNA MOVE IN AND THEN RIGHT AFTER THEY MOVE IN, THEY'RE GONNA BE LIVING IN A CONSTRUCTION SITE FOR TWO YEARS OR WHATEVER.
SO I, SO I PERSONALLY THINK THAT, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, I, I WANT TO BE LIKE TOTALLY UPFRONT.
I THINK THE ODDS OF THIS HAPPENING ARE VERY SLIM.
THAT'S MY OWN, THAT'S MY OWN PERSONAL FEELING.
UM, AND I, AND I DON'T WANNA STRAY FROM YOUR COMMENTS, BUT, UM, I, I DO WANNA KNOW IN TERMS OF SEEKER BEING ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC PARK IS A DIFFERENT, UM, THRESHOLD.
SO MEANING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT A USE THAT COULD HAVE A WEDDING THAT'S ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC PARK FROM SEEKER IMPACT, YOU THINK OF IT IN A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE AS IF, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE NEXT TO A NON-RESIDENTIAL USE, OR, UM, YOU, YOU WERE CLOSER TO A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, SO THE THRESHOLD IS MUCH DIFFERENT.
UM, AND THERE COULD BE IMPACTS THERE WITH NOISE AND, UH, WEDDINGS AND SUCH.
SO I GUESS I WANT TO KIND OF REPHRASE YOUR QUESTION.
IF YOUR USE, UM, IT WAS DEEMED THAT THE ONLY PROPER MITIGATION FROM A NOISE PERSPECTIVE WAS TO ACTUALLY NOT HOST WEDDINGS AT THIS, UM, CROATIAN CULTURAL CENTER.
I GUESS I JUST WOULD WANNA POSE THE QUESTION, IF THAT WERE EFFECT, WOULD YOU STILL PURSUE, PURSUE THE USE? CAN I JUST ADD TO THAT? SO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OUTDOOR WEDDINGS OR INDOOR WEDDINGS? UM, BOTH.
WELL, IT'S DIFFERENT IMPACT, I GUESS COULD BE BOTH.
BUT, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE NEXT TO A PARK, RIGHT? SO SEEKER SAYS, UM, YOU REALLY HAVE TO TAKE, WELL, YOU ALWAYS TAKE A HARD LOOK.
YOU TAKE AN ULTRA HARD LOOK WHEN YOU'RE NEXT TO PARKS, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
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WE WOULD LIKE TO USE EVERY POSSIBLE WAY TO RAISE MONEY FOR THEM AND TO PROVIDE SCHOLARSHIPS AND TO PROVIDE MONEY FOR HOUSING AND TRAVEL, UH, TO THE PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY.UM, I DON'T THINK THAT WE WANT, WOULD WANT TO GO TO THE EXPENSE OF PURCHASING A VERY EXPENSIVE PIECE OF LAND AND BUILDING A VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE BUILDING AS YOU SEE HERE, AND NOT BE ABLE TO FULFILL, UM, PAYING THE BILLS OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY, UH, THE EMPLOYEES, AND THEN NOT HAVING MONEY LEFT OVER FOR WHAT THE GOAL IS.
THINK I COULD THINK OF A LOT OF OTHER, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF GARRETT, YOU, I COULD THINK OF OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD OTHER POTENTIAL LOCATIONS IN GREENBURG IN WOOD AREAS THAT WOULD BE EXCELLENT.
I'M WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY COULD MEET WITH, UM, WITH YOU AND WE COULD TRY SHOWING THEM AROUND THE TOWN AND BASICALLY SHOWING THEM OTHER OPTIONS THAT MAY BE, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THIS WAY THE TOWN COULD ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORT AS CROATIAN CENTER WITHOUT IMPACTING, UH, THE GREENBERG NATURE CENTER.
BECAUSE AGAIN, I'M CONVINCED THAT IF WE ALL WORK TOGETHER, WE COULD FIND A LOCATION THAT YOU WOULD FEEL WOULD BE, UM, WOULD MEET YOUR NEEDS WHERE WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, UH, PUTTING IN ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE GONNA, UM, MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO FUNCTION.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, IF YOU OPEN UP A CENTER, WE WANT YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
WE WANT, WE WANT THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MEMBERS OF THE CROATIAN COMMUNITY TO REALLY BE PROUD OF THE CENTER, UH, TO FEEL THAT THE TOWN IS A SUPPORTER, THAT WE'RE GOING OUT OUR, OUR WAY TO MAKE, UM, YOUR MEMBERS FEEL REALLY WELCOME HERE.
AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD DO WHATEVER I CAN TO WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONER, PLANNING AND THE BOARD AND TRY FINDING A, A BETTER LOCATION.
DYLAN, HAS ANYONE REACHED OUT TO YOU REGARDING THIS PROJECT? UH, CAN YOU JUST COME UP IF THE ANSWER IS NO, DYLAN PINE IS THE MANAGEMENT COMMUNITY COUNCIL PRESIDENT? UH, NO, THEY HAVE NOT.
SO THAT WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT DISCUSSION THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE AS WELL.
SO, UH, TWO CRITICAL, UH, UM, PLAYERS HERE WOULD BE THE NATURE CENTER AND THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND THE APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT NEAR, UH, THE EXISTING APARTMENT COMPLEX RIGHT NEAR, UH, UH, THE DRUMMER ROAD AND ALSO THE HISTORIC AND LANDMARK PRESERVATION BOARD WAS GOING TO MAKE A DETERMINATION ON THIS.
BUT THERE ARE RESPONSES STILL OUTSTANDING, RIGHT? FROM WHAT I GATHER.
SO IT, IT'S A GORGEOUS BUILDING FOR A FANTASTIC PURPOSE, BUT I THINK YOU'RE TRYING TO SQUEEZE TOO MUCH ONTO AN UNDERSIZED LOT.
AND YOU MIGHT SAY, BUT IT'S A BIG LOT.
BUT LOOK WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S JUST CERTAINLY IT'S OUTTA CHARACTER IN MY OPINION, WITH THE COMMUNITY.
UH, CERTAINLY, UH, GOES AGAINST WHAT MY ARGUMENTS WERE REGARDING, UH, MAJOR DEVELOPMENT ON THAT ROAD.
THIS IS ACTUALLY CLOSER, SO I WOULD BE A HYPOCRITE IF I WERE TO SAY THIS WAS OKAY.
UH, BUT OTHER DEVELOPMENT ON THAT ROAD WAS NOT, IT'S JUST TOO MASSIVE.
THE SETBACK VARIANCE THAT YOU WOULD NEED IS ENORMOUS.
UM, YOU'D SPEAK ABOUT, YOU ONLY NEED EIGHT SPOTS, BUT IF YOU ONLY REALLY NEEDED EIGHT SPOTS, YOU WOULDN'T BE TRYING TO GET, MAKE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE NATURE CENTER TO HAVE ANOTHER 60 OR 70 AS OVERFLOW.
SO IT'S, IT'S JUST NO, THEY SAID 132 PARKING CENTERS, IT'S A HUNDRED THIRTY TWO THIRTY PARKING, BUT THEY, THEY WANT TO GET ANOTHER 60 OR SO FROM THE NATURE CENTER OVERFLOW.
UM, AND SO, UH, I MAY SEEM HARSH IN THAT.
UM, UM, BUT I GOTTA BE HONEST WITH YOU, EARLY, EARLY ON, THE VARIANCES ARE ENORMOUS AND THE LOCATION'S JUST WRONG.
BUT IF THERE IS ANOTHER PLACE IN GREENBURG THAT YOU CAN FIND, UH, WHERE IT DOESN'T NEED SUCH VARIANCES, UH, AND IT DOESN'T DISTURB THE NATURE CENTER, UM, YOU KNOW, I WOULD WELCOME, I WOULD WELCOME THAT APPLICATION AND, YOU KNOW, I'D BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU.
YEAH, WE'RE NOT, I HAVE A GREAT IDEA RIGHT NOW, SO, BUT I, I DON'T WANNA MENTION IT.
I, I CAN MEET WITH YOU AND, UH, AND UH, TELL YOU SOME OF MY THOUGHTS FOR OTHER LOCATIONS, BUT THEY, THEY, IT'S WOODED
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AND IT'S AS NICE OR NICER.YEAH, I THINK I, I MEAN NOT, WE'VE BEEN, UM, STRINGING THESE POOR MONETARY NUNS FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS.
UM, IF, IF THIS DOESN'T WORK OUT, I, I THINK WE'RE, WE'LL JUST FIND ANOTHER, UH, LOCATION SOMEWHERE ELSE.
BUT, UH, YOU COULD CALL ME AND I'LL GIVE YOU SOME SUGGESTIONS.
WELL, WOULD YOU CONSIDER DOWNSIZING WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING? I THINK WHAT WE HAVE HERE IS NOT THAT ENORMOUS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO ANY FURTHER INSIDE OF IT.
WE'RE NEVER GONNA MEET, HAVE A MEETING OF THE MINES, AT LEAST NOT WITH ME.
IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT THIS IS OVERSIZED AND IT IS ENORMOUS FOR THAT SIZE LOT.
UM, BUT, AND MAYBE IT'S THE CONFIGURATION A LOT BECAUSE IT'S DEEP, BUT IT'S NOT THAT WIDE, UH, THAT IS AN ISSUE.
BUT IT, IT ABUTS A, A VERY, IT'S NOT JUST PARKLAND NEXT TO IT, IT'S PARKLAND THAT'S USED AS A NATURE PRESERVE.
SO IT, THE STANDARD IS, IS DIFFERENT.
BUT EVEN IF IT WAS LIKE HALF AS BIG, IT STILL WILL BE CONTROVERSIAL.
I JUST WANT TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY FLEXIBILITY.
MADELINE, DID YOU SAY ANYTHING? NO, THANK YOU.
SO NOW I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.