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TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION.TODAY'S ON MARCH, UM, 26TH, UM,
AND, UH, WE HAVE AN OPEN MEETING.
THE FIRST ITEM IS A PROPOSED, UM, RESOLUTION SUPPORT OF NEW YORK STATE'S PROPOSED PACKAGING REDUCTION AND RECYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE ACT AND BETTER FINAL BILL.
UM, THIS WAS, UH, WE WERE REQUESTED TO PASS A RESOLUTION.
UM, I WONDER IF, UH, ANYBODY HAS ANY, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTS ABOUT IT.
UM, YOU WANNA, SO THAT, NO, IT DOESN'T MATTER.
YOU SAYING THE MAIN ISSUE I HAVE IS FOR THE MONIES THAT ARE NOT WHERE THE BOTTLES ARE.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE INDUSTRY JUST KEEPS THE MONEY, SO THAT'S REALLY DOESN'T INCENTIVIZE THEM EITHER.
IN ORDER TO IMPROVE THE RECYCLING, THAT WAS A PROBLEM WITH THE FIRST BOTTLE BILL AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT WAS 5 CENTS.
AND ALSO IT SAYS THAT THOSE THAT WENT TO 10 CENTS, UH, HAVE A VERY HIGH PERCENTAGE, BUT THEY, THEY ALSO DON'T HAVE A, UM, THEY DON'T HAVE A, UH, REDEMPTION, WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE REDEMPTION CENTERS OR WHATEVER THAT WORKS.
BUT MY MAIN CONCERN IS THAT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T RECYCLE AND THEY THROW THE BOTTLES ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD, OR HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS HAVE TO PICK THOSE THINGS UP AND, AND WE GET NOTHING FROM THAT MONEY.
IT IS BASICALLY A GIFT TO THE BOTTLE COMPANIES.
SO DO YOU THINK THAT, UH, WE SHOULD RIGHT, TO THE STATE LEGISLATORS WHO PRODUCE THE LEGISLATION AND ASK FOR AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD, UH, THAT WOULD BASICALLY, UM, HAVE LIKE THE MONEY THAT IS NOT RETURNED.
UM, YOU WOULD GO TO LIKE AN ENVIRONMENTAL FUND OR SOMETHING, BECAUSE THAT, THAT MAKES REALLY A LOT OF SENSE.
BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST BOTTLES.
I THINK THIS IS JUST PLASTIC PACKAGING.
BUT WHAT I READ WHEN I PULLED UP THE, UH, 63 53, UH, IT DEALT WITH BOTTLES.
AM I NOT READING THAT CORRECTLY? UH, WELL, IT'S TWO.
UM, DO THEY, THEY'RE, THEY'RE TWO, RIGHT? THE RETURNABLE CONTAINER ACT.
IT'S A NICE, NICER DAY OF THE RETURNABLE CONTAINER ACT.
THAT SEEMS SEPARATE FOR THE PACKAGING REDUCTION SITE.
THERE'S A 53 22, UH, BNS 42 3 6 A 63 53 AND S TWO THREE, THE, THESE HAVE, THESE HAVE GONE, I HAVE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS, BUT THEY WERE INTRODUCED IN THE LAST SESSION, OR MAYBE TWO SESSIONS AGO, AND I DON'T THINK THEY EVER MADE IT OUTTA COMMITTEE, BUT, UM, DOES IT GO, LET'S SAY YOU BUY SOMETHING AT SHOPRITE, YOU KNOW, UH, SO THE SHOPRITE BENEFIT FROM THE EXTRA FROM THE, YOU KNOW, UNRETURNED, YOU KNOW, BOTTLES, OR DOES THE INDUSTRY IS PROBABLY SHOPRITE, I WOULD THINK.
WELL, IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE SHOPRITE AND THEY SELL COLA, THEY HAVE TO TAKE COCA-COLA BOTTLES, EVEN IF IT'S NOT FROM THEIR STORE.
SO HOW THAT MONEY GETS COLLECTED IN THE, YOU KNOW, THE 5 CENTS GETS COLLECTED AND POOLED, THEY CAN'T BE WELL IN, IN THIS BILL, THEY'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU CAN BE LIMITED SO THAT THERE'S NO MORE THAN I THINK 75 OR 72 BOTTLES AT A TIME.
BUT IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET THE BOTTLES BACK INTO THE RECYCLING BIN, WHY IS THERE OPINION, UH, WHEN THEY, EXCEPT I GUESS PEOPLE GO AROUND COLLECT THEM AND THEY CAN INUNDATE, YOU KNOW, THE, BUT THAT'S HOW PEOPLE EATING AND SURVIVING, SO, RIGHT.
BUT THAT'S, SO THAT'S A SMALL PORTION OF THIS.
MOST OF THIS RESOLUTION IS ABOUT THE REDUCTION OF PACKAGING, NOT ABOUT, NOT ABOUT, IT'S A SHAME PUT TOGETHER.
IT'S LITTLE CONFUSING THAT WAY, BUT FOR THE REDUCTION OF PACKAGING.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE HARD TO ENFORCE BECAUSE YOU'VE BEEN DEALING WITH MANUFACTURERS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY, EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTRY AND TRYING TO ENFORCE THAT.
WELL, MAYBE THERE'S A, UH, THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE THEY'LL TRY.
I, I HAVE TO READ THE, THE BILLS STUFF.
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2021.THEY'RE ALL 10 STATES THAT EVEN DIDN'T FOLLOW 10 STATES, YOU KNOW? SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE SHOULDN'T DO IT.
IT IS JUST, IT WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW WHAT THE REASONING WAS.
THEY ARE INCREASING, LIKE THE STORE RIGHT NOW, IF YOU HAVE 5 CENTS A DEPOSIT, THEY GET THREE AND A HALF CENTS DOING ALL OF THAT LABOR.
OKAY? NOW IT'S GONNA BE 6 CENTS, 10 CENTS.
I'M JUST, BUT THE QUESTION IS, FOR THOSE BOTTLES THAT DON'T GET PULLED BACK, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THAT 10 CENTS THAT'S GOING TO BE COLLECTED, THEY JUST KEEP THEY NO LABOR ON SOMEBODY NOT BEEN TURNING A BOTTLE.
WELL, IT, IT GOES INTO THE EASIER SIDE.
I'M THE RETAILER BECAUSE THE RETAIL FIRST PLACE, RIGHT.
AND YOU PAY THAT WHEN YOU BUY, WHEN YOU BUY YOUR SODA, YOU PAY, YOU PAY ALL OF THAT.
THERE'S NO NO BOTTLE COMING BACK.
I GUESS I CARE LESS ABOUT THAT THAN THE IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT, THOUGH.
IF IT ENCOURAGES MORE PEOPLE TO BRING BOTTLE BACK WHEN THE TALENT COLLECTS IT, YOU, WE DON'T GET ANY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GO BACK AND PROBABLY GETTING REIMBURSED FOR THE ALL THE SODAS AND NO, THE ONLY NCE, BUT WE WILL RECYCLE ANYTHING WE COLLECT, WE RIGHT.
BUT WE DON'T GET THE MONEY BACK.
SO THAT, THAT MEANS WHOEVER PAID THAT MONEY.
BUT THE INDUSTRY AND HOW I, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THAT PROCESS.
I THINK, I THINK IT'S SO MUCH THE STORE.
I THINK IT'S, IT'S, WE HAVE THAT, WHAT I HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT IS WHEN YOU GIVE THAT MONEY IN TO THE STORE, LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE SAM'S, IF YOU SAY 5 CENTS ON EACH ONE OF THOSE LITTLE BOTTLES THAT YOU BUY, UM, SAM'S IS THE ONLY PLACE YOU CAN RECYCLE SAM'S MM-HMM.
BECAUSE THE SHOP WON'T TAKE THE SAM'S BOTTLE BECAUSE THEY DON'T SELL SAM BOX.
NOW, IF SAM SELLS COKE, UH, COKE JOB RIGHT.
WILL TAKE, BECAUSE THEY ALSO SELL COKE.
SO SOMEHOW ALL THAT MONEY HAS TO BE COLLECTED AND DIVVIED UP SOMEHOW.
SO, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PETE COMB SPONSORED THE BILL.
SO WE CAN CALL HIS OFFICE, WHICH IS MORE THE, THE, THE, UM, HOLD ON A SECOND.
THE, THE OTHER ONE, THE S 42 46, WE COULD SEPARATE IT OUT.
THE BOTTLE BILL IS, IS 2 37 B.
ONE IS TO EXPAND THE BOTTLE PILL AND THE OTHER ONE IS THE DEDUCTION, WHICH WE HAVE NO ISSUE ON.
SEE, THEY TOOK OUR SUGGESTIONS, SO MAKE THEM OUT.
SO DO YOU WANT, SO DO YOU WANNA HOLD THIS UNTIL WE HAVE TWO SEPARATE RESOLUTIONS AND WE, I THINK WE SHOULD JUST, UH, I THINK WHAT I SHOULD, WE SHOULD DO IS REACH OUT TO LIKE CONFEDERATE CONSERVATIONISTS FROM NEW YORK LEAGUE CONSERVATION VOTERS.
AND I THINK THE POINTS YOU'VE MADE WERE REALLY VALID.
AND ASK 'EM IF THEY COULD TAKE A LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK PEOPLE REALLY HAVE DISCUSSED THAT, THAT ISSUE IN THE PAST.
UH, AND MAYBE WE COULD COME UP WITH A, A BETTER PROPOSAL, RIGHT.
THE BOTTLE BILL TALKING ABOUT THE FATHER BILL.
THE BOTTLE BILL IS RACHEL MAY WAS THE ORIGINAL, IS THE SPONSOR.
AND, AND WHERE DOES THIS COME FROM? WHERE, WHO PUT THIS TOGETHER? THAT WE, IT, IT'S REALLY A RESOLUTION IN SUPPORT OF THE EXISTING, THE ENVIRONMENTAL.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T SEPARATE THEM OUT.
SO SOMEBODY PUT THEM TOGETHER.
SO WE PASSED THE ONE THAT WE'RE IN, THEY'RE COMFORTABLE WITH.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, I I, I'M, I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHETHER, YOU KNOW, VERY STRONG LOBBYISTS, YOU KNOW, LOBBYING AGAINST ANYTHING OTHER THAN THEM KEEPING THE MONEY FOR, FOR THE BOTTLES THAT DON'T GO BACK.
AND THAT WAS A BIG CONTROVERSY, WHICH I REMEMBER THE FIRST BOTTLE AS TO NOBODY REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT THAT APPARENTLY.
AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN BOTTLES WERE JUST NOT RETURN.
AND THEN THEY REALIZED THAT KEPT WITH THE STORES OF THE INDUSTRY, ONE OR THE OTHER.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHY I WAS ALWAYS WONDERED WHEN WE, WHEN YOU
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BUY YOUR WATER OR, OR SODA OR WHATEVER, AND THEY CHARGE YOU 7 99 AND THEY DO THE, THEN THEY DO THE CHARGE OF 5 CENTS FOR EACH ONE OF ONES THAT YOU HAVE IN THERE.SO LET'S SAY THAT'S ANOTHER 25 CENTS.
WHO GETS THAT MONEY SHOT RIGHT? TO SOMEONE? OR THEY HAVE OR IS THAT, IS THAT THE QUESTION? THEY HAVE TO SEND A CHECK, IF YOU WILL, OVER TO, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER AGENCY IS COLLECTING THEM.
WELL, HAR MIGHT KNOW, RIGHT? HOW SO? YEAH, I MEAN WE CAN, AS FAR AS THE BOTTLE BILL'S CONCERN, THAT'S RACHEL MAY, AT LEAST IN THE SENATE,
WE RESERVE NEIL, BRESLIN, ELL, JABARI, AND BRIDGEPORT AND KRISTEN.
WELL, WE SHOULD WE JUST SAY WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS ASIDE AND THEN DO MORE RESEARCH ON WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO? YEAH, I, WE CAN PUT OUT, I WAS JUST LOOKING TO SEE IF ANY OF OUR OTHER LOCAL, JUST REMEMBER APRIL.
SO WHY DON'T WE WAIT UNTIL WE GET ALL INFORMATION BEFORE WE PUT OUT A DATE, DATE WE PUT ON.
IT NEEDS, IT NEEDS MORE RESEARCH, BUT I THINK IT, ONCE WE HAVE A FULL RESEARCH, THEN WE CAN SCHEDULE IT.
YEAH, THAT'S SCHEDULE AT LEAST ANSWERED THIS QUESTION.
MAYBE WE JUST HAVE THE CC TO IT.
WELL, C, C PUT JUST THE C AND CC SUBMITTED THIS US TO REVIEW SO THEY CAN GIVE US MORE INFORMATION.
THE REGENERON BEING HELD OVER AT SIGN REQUEST.
THEY'RE STILL INTERESTED ALL IN PURSUING.
NOW THEY WAITING FOR SOME ENGINEERING REPORT OR SOMETHING.
SHOULD WE PUT UH, UH, THE
DO THAT PRESENTATIONS, ARE THEY CONFIRMED? I'M NOT SURE.
I THINK THAT THEY MIGHT, WE SHOULD CONFIRM.
SHOULD WE CONFIRM BETWEEN NOW AND TOMORROW? BUT EVEN IF THEY DON'T SHOW, I THINK I REMEMBER SEEING IF THEY WERE COMING, BUT I'LL CHECK.
OH, THE HIGH SCHOOL, IT WAS THE WINNER OF THE PRESTIGIOUS AWARD.
THE ONLY PROBLEM MOVING ENOUGH, IT'S A RESOLUTION.
YOU'RE NORMALLY ALLOWED ABILITY TO SPEAK RESOLUTION.
UM, UNLESS WE SAY ANYBODY WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT, WE COULD DO THAT.
IS THIS FOR THE LAST QUESTION? MAYBE WE CAN GO, WE SHOULD GO ELSEWHERE.
SO WE KNOW THEY'RE SHOWING UP LIST OF UNDER PRESENTATIONS.
I I DON'T WANNA MOVE THE RESOLUTION.
THAT'S CAN WE MOVE THE RESOLUTION AT THE TIME OF THE PRESENTATION? I WHAT? I'M LET'S WE ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR.
YEAH, BUT I DON'T WANNA MOVE IT FROM WHERE IT IS BECAUSE THEN LATER ON WHEN YOU GO TO CERTAIN AGENDAS, THEY'RE COMING.
SO WE CAN MOVE THEM TO THE PRESENTATION.
YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE BOTH, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU COULD MOVE IT AT THE TIME OF THE PRESENTATION, BUT THEN FOR SEARCHING PURPOSES LATER ON, YOU LEAVE IT OKAY.
SO WE'LL PUT IT, WE'LL PUT IT ON THERE ON THE PRESENTATION.
BEFORE, BEFORE WE MOVE THAT, JUST ASK YOU IF ANYBODY OTHER,
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SO SIX, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.A NEGATIVE DECLARATION PROCEDURE.
SO BEFORE YOU CAN ADOPT ANY PLANNED USE, UH, MATTER, YOU HAVE TO FIRST, UH OH, IT HAS.
SO A NEGATIVE DECLARATION, MEANING THERE'S NO HI.
SO CD SIX AND CD SEVEN BASICALLY BLANKED.
AND WE CAN'T DO CD SEVEN WITHOUT DOING CG SIX.
NOW THE SIDEWALK ON VALE ROAD, IMAGINE THAT.
HOW ABOUT THAT? MUSTS BE NICE.
MUST MUSTS BE NICE? MUST BE NICE.
CAN YOU IMAGINE A BIG DIFFERENCE? 52 CENTS.
YOU, IF YOU WANNA GIVE MORE FOR FEEL FREE, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS ON JUNIPER HILL I CAN FIND FOR HE SHOULD BE HAPPY.
WHEN WE HAVE WALK, THERE WAS LIKE COUPLE HOMES THAT, YOU KNOW, WEREN'T CONNECTED AND WE, WE WENT, WE, WE DID THE WALK AND WE DID THE WALK OUTTA CHURCH, CHURCH, AND THEN WE ALL THE WAY UP.
AND THEN THERE WAS RIGHT BEFORE THE SCHOOL, THERE WAS A SECTION THAT THEY SAID THEY COULDN'T DO IT.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY EVER ADDRESSED I TELEPHONE CALLS OR SOMETHING.
THERE WAS SOME, IT WAS, UM, YEAH, IT WAS EITHER IT WAS MEANT MOVEMENT AND TELEPHONE CALLS OR MAYBE THERE WASN'T
SOME PEOPLE DIDN'T GO DIRECTLY TO THE SCHOOL.
OH, DIRECTLY TALKING ABOUT THE WAIT, THE ZIGZAG, THE ZIG.
Z STOPS LIKE A FEW HOMES BEFORE IT DOESN'T CONNECT.
SO PEOPLE CAN'T WALK RIGHT INTO THE, IS THAT THE PROPERTY? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
I'M SITTING, WE'RE GONNA LOOK INTO, I MEAN, I THINK ONCE THE SIDEWALK IS BUILT, IF IT'S NOT DONE, THEY COULD ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT A WAY IT'S POSSIBLE TO DO IT.
I MEAN, I THINK THIS IS A VERY BIG ENHANCEMENT ANSWER.
SO THEN GO TO, I JUST, I'M CURIOUS, CAN I JUST CALL RICH? I JUST WANNA RE-ASK HIM ABOUT THIS.
ABOUT WHAT THE SIDEWALK THING, IF THEY EVER, SO YEAH.
YEAH, NO, I, I HAD JUST A, A CURIOSITY WITH ME.
UM, AND IT DIDN'T COME FROM MARY.
I JUST, UM, WHEN WE HAD THE MEETINGS, REMEMBER ON, UH, JUNIPER HILL, THE SIDEWALK, THERE'S A COUPLE HOMES THAT WERE AT THE END OF THE, UM, THIS, THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK THAT WE COULDN'T IN.
AND, UM, SOME RESIDENTS HAD CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF THAT EVER GOT, YOU KNOW, RESOLVED.
UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS, WHAT WAS THE PROBLEM AND WHAT WAS THE SOLUTION? UH, HE, HE RE-ENGINEERED IT.
YEAH, I MAKE A MOTION TO GO ON EXECUTIVE
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SESSION.