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BOARD, UH, MEETING.IT'S FIVE 30 AND UM, TODAY IS MAY 7TH.
AND, UM, THE FIRST ITEM IS ALLOCATION OF FUNDS FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, PRIDE.
THE HUMAN RIGHTS, UH, COMMITTEE HAS ASKED FOR, UM, US TO RELEASE FUNDS THAT WE AUTHORIZED LAST YEAR FOR THE LGBT, UM, Q PLUS PLUS, UH, PARADE.
AND, UM, WE HAD AUTHORIZED IT LAST YEAR.
I DON'T SEE ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T AUTHORIZE IT THIS YEAR.
IT'S BASICALLY FUNDS THAT WE ALREADY GAVE HAVING, WE ALREADY GIVEN IT OVER.
BUT THEY WANTED, SO WHY IS IT AN ISSUE? UM, I THINK THAT THEY JUST WANTED TO, I THINK THERE WAS AN ISSUE WHETHER OR NOT, SINCE THEY DIDN'T SPEND IT, WELL, THERE WERE SOME PEOPLE OH, OKAY.
WHAT HAPPENED IS BY THE TIME THEY GOT IT, IT WAS ALL THE MONIES HAD BEEN ALLOCATED AND IT WAS OVER.
SO IF WE GET THEM THE MONIES IN TIME, IT WILL CERTAINLY BE SPENT.
AND THEY WERE, THEY HAVE THE MONEY.
THEY HAVE THE MONEY IN THEIR ACCOUNT, THEY JUST HAVEN'T USED IT.
SO THEY'RE ASKING US IF WE WOULD LET THEM USE THE MONEY THAT WE ALREADY APPROPRIATED.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THEY HAVE THE MONEY AND THEY'RE ASKING FOR PERMISSION TO USE THEIR MONEY.
LAST YEAR THEY ALREADY HAVE NEVER SPENT IT.
BY THE TIME THEY GOT THE MONIES, IT WAS AFTER THE PARADE AND ALL THE MONIES HAD BEEN PAID OUT.
SO THEY HAD THAT MONEY IN THEIR ACCOUNT FROM LAST YEAR, AND IT'S THEIRS.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT, AND I COULD HAVE USED IT TO REIMBURSE THEMSELVES BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAD TO PUT OUT MONEY THEY DIDN'T OTHERWISE HAVE TO PUT OUT.
NO, THEY DIDN'T, THEY DIDN'T REIMBURSE THEMSELVES.
THEY BASICALLY ARE JUST ASKING IF, UH, THE MONEY THAT WE ALLOCATED IN 2023 COULD BE USED FOR THE 2024 PARADE, WHICH I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM.
YEAH, IT'S THIS, YOU GAVE IT TO THEM.
THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY.
SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR ADDITIONAL MONEY.
SO I DO WANNA KNOW WHEN ARE WE GONNA SCHEDULE THE FLAG RAISING? SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT THAT ON THERE BECAUSE IT'S A, ARE WE GONNA DO IT THE FIRST WITH JUNE? WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT OUR CALENDARS AND FIGURE OUT WHEN WE'RE GONNA DO THE FLAG RAISING.
UM, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE THE FIRST, I GUESS THAT WOULD BE, IF WE COULD DO IT THE FIRST DAY IS SATURDAY JUNE 1ST.
I'M THINKING MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN, WE DON'T WANNA DO SOMETHING DURING A WORK SESSION.
I THINK WE SHOULD DO IT HERE AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING, BECAUSE THE NEXT, SO THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING'S GOING TO BE ON THE 12TH.
IT'S THE SECOND AND FOURTH WEDNESDAY.
SO IT'LL BE THE 12TH WORK SESSION.
THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING IF WE DO IT EARLY, SO WE CAN GET THERE FOR THE WHOLE MONTH OF JUNE.
MAYBE WE COULD PROBABLY DO A SPECIAL, JUST THINKING OUT LOUD, A SPECIAL, AND THEN, UM, RIGHT BEFORE THE WORK SESSION, AND THEN WE GO INTO OUTSIDE GO WORK SESSION, THEN COME BACK AND DO WHATEVER ON THE WORK SESSION DAY OR 14TH.
GO UP ON THE 14TH WORK SESSION DAY.
FRIDAY THE 14TH IS IS THE JUNETEENTH JUNETEENTH EVENT.
SO IT'S, BUT THAT'S ALL ONE, THAT'S ALL FRIDAY JUNETEENTH.
ANY, ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT SUGGESTION? SO ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE DO IT ON SUGGESTING WE DO IT ON THE FOURTH? ON THE FOURTH.
SO IT'S EARLY IN THE MONTH, RIGHT? YEP.
UM, RIGHT BEFORE A WORK SESSION.
EVERYONE COME OUT REALLY QUICKLY.
WELL, MAYBE YOU SHOULD DO IT, UM, INSTEAD OF LIKE RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WORK SESSION, MAYBE WE SHOULD TAKE A BREAK AND DO IT BEFORE THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
MAYBE LIKE SIX 30 OR SEVEN, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WHO WORK AND THEY MAY WANT TO ATTEND IT.
AND IF IT WOULD BE EARLIER IN THE EVENING, THAT'S FINE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE AT LEAST, UM, HAVE IT ON, GET A DATE.
WE NEED TO GET A DATE SO WE CAN COMMUNICATE A DATE.
UM, SO I WOULD THINK SO ARE WE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT FOR JUNE 4TH FOR THE FLAG RAISING? SURE.
WOULD YOU WANT, WHAT WAS IT UP? BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW CONTROLLER
AND THEN WE GET, DETERMINE WHAT THE TIME WILL BE.
SO YOU WANNA SAY, BASED ON THE SCHEDULE, YOU WANNA SAY LIKE SIX 30? WELL, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SCHEDULE IS, SO WHY DON'T WE SEE WHAT OUR SCHEDULE IS, SO, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE SCHEDULE IT APPROPRIATELY.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A BOARD MEETING ON THE FIFTH.
I DON'T KNOW WHY MY JUNE MONTH IS ALL BECAUSE THERE ARE FIVE WEDNESDAY.
UM, ON THE, UM, THE PRIDE ALLOCATION OF FUNDS AND IF MR. DANKO CAN CORRECT ME, DID THE RESOLUTION SPECIFY, UM, THAT THE FUNDS HAD TO BE USED IN 2023?
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NO.DON'T THINK IT, IT DID SPECIFY FOR THE THIRD ANNUAL GREENBURG PRIDE PARADE, WHICH WOULD MEAN LAST YEAR.
SO I WAS THINKING OF JUST PUTTING ON ANOTHER RESOLUTION, FORMALIZING THAT IT COULD THEN BE USED.
FOR THE FOURTH ANNUAL PRIDE PARADE, WHICH WOULD BE THIS SUMMER.
UM, UH, NEXT, UM, WE HAVE THE CAPITAL BUDGET HEARING.
UH, SO WE'RE GONNA BE HEARING FROM JOE LUCCHESE AND YOU'RE GONNA TELL US.
YEAH, LET'S CALL THESE DISCUSSIONS.
JOE, IS THIS A EYE TEST?
DID YOU BRING GLASSES FOR US? MAGNIFIERS.
NOW I GOTTA TAKE MY GLASSES OFF JUST TO SEE IT.
NO, BECAUSE IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT, THEN YOU MORE LIKELY TO APPROVE IT.
I GOTTA LOOK AT THIS ONE AGAIN.
WELL, I TRIED TO GET ALL THREE, UH, YEARS IN THERE FOR YOU.
UM, SO NEXT TIME WE WILL, UH, I DON'T KNOW, WITH THE NEW COMPTROLLER WILL STILL GET LEGAL PAPER.
ONE WAS, I JUST WANNA LET EVERYONE KNOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY A BUDGET ITEMS THIS YEAR.
SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS, I THINK FROM, UH, POSSIBLY SOME OF THE VILLAGE MAYORS THAT THAT WON'T CONCERN THEM ON THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET.
I DO WANNA MENTION THOUGH, THAT WE DID GET $198,000 GRANT LAST YEAR.
UM, IT WAS AN AMERICAN RESCUE GRANT AND IT WAS AN A FUNDED GRANT AND IT WENT INTO, AND IT WAS A NON-MATCHING GRANT, AND IT HELPED US TO BUY FOUR DELIVERY VEHICLES FOR THE NUTRITION, UH, PROGRAM.
AND ALSO A FREEZER COOLER FOR THE NUTRITION PROGRAM.
OTHERWISE, WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE HAD SOME THINGS IN THE A BUDGET.
SO WAS THERE, UH, UM, HOW MUCH WAS THE TOWN CONTRIBUTIONS FOR THAT? ZERO.
UM, THERE'S, THE MAYORS WILL BE HAPPY.
HE WAS NON MATCHED, SO YOU'RE GONNA BE REALLY SAD.
BUT MINE WAS ACTUALLY LANDSCAPED.
I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST GO BACK AND, AND PREPRINT THEM TRADE.
SO, UH, UM, WE CAN GO THROUGH THESE ONE BY ONE.
THERE'S ONE VEHICLE THAT'S ON THE LINE TO THE, AND IT'S A, UH, A FOUR.
UM, LET'S SEE, WHICH ONE IS IT? IT'S THE, UH, F THREE 50 CLASS FOUR TRUCK.
IT'S TO REPLACE A VEHICLE THAT'S BREAKING DOWN ON US ON A REGULAR BASIS.
IT'S ALSO GONNA COME WITH A SNOWPLOW AND SPREADER, $135,000.
UM, THAT'S THE ONLY VEHICLE WE'RE ASKING TO REPLACE THIS YEAR.
IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT ONE? WHEN WOULD YOU EXPECT TO GET IT? THAT'S YOUR FIRST PRIORITY? THAT'S OUR FIRST PRIORITY FOR VEHICLES.
WE USUALLY DO PROGRAMS. UH, WE DO THE, UM, VEHICLES SEPARATE FROM EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND WHEN WOULD YOU EXPECT TO GET IT? WELL, WE, IT'S HARD TO TELL.
WE HAVE TO KNOW WHEN WE GET THE MONEY.
IF YOU GET THE MONEY, SAY, YEAH, WE WOULD GET IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
HOW LONG DOES IT, IS IT DELIVERY? IT DEPENDS ON WHEN THE PRODUCTION YEAR IS ALSO, UM, AND IF THERE'S ANY LEFTOVER ON THE PREVIOUS PRODUCTION YEAR.
SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT.
JOSE, HOW LONG DID, YOU SAID THE, THIS WAS FROM 2010 10 THE, THE ONE WE'RE REPLACING? NO, 2014.
IT'S, UH, GOT 46,000 MILES ON IT, BUT IT, UH, WE'RE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH, IT'S BREAKING DOWN AT THIS POINT, AND SO WE NEED TO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT RELIABLE.
DO YOU CHARACTERIZE THOSE AS HARD MILES? EVERY ONE OF THOSE MILES IS HARD MILES.
UM, WHEN YOU'RE PUSHING, UH, SALT AND SNOW AND THINGS LIKE THAT, YOU'RE DEFINITELY PUSHING A LOT ON THE ENGINE.
UM, SO THE, WHENEVER WE GO WITH A, A PRO, UM, A VEHICLE REPLACEMENT LIKE THIS, WE GO THROUGH THE REPAIR SHOP AND WE USE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR REPLACEMENTS.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, IN TERMS OF VEHICLES, UH, DO WE HAVE SOME ELECTRIC VEHICLES, RIGHT? WE DO.
WE HAVE HOW MANY? UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE ONE ELECTRIC CAR, TOTALLY ELECTRIC.
AND WE ALSO ARE RECEIVING, UM, A RAV4 PRIME, WHICH IS GONNA RUN ELECTRIC FOR 40 MILES.
AND THEN IT SWITCHES TO HYBRID THAT JUST, UH, ARRIVED IN THE SHOP YESTERDAY AND THAT WAS APPROVED ON LAST YEAR'S CUP CAPITAL BUDGET.
AND SO WE'LL BE TESTING THAT OUT WITHIN A WEEK OR SO.
UH, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IN TERMS OF JUST NOT, AGAIN, WHILE WE'RE DOING TODAY, IS WE'RE JUST GOING THROUGH THE WISHLISTS, BUT, AND THEN EVENTUALLY BY THE END OF THE MONTH, WE'LL COME UP WITH A PROPOSED BUDGET AND THERE'LL BE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
LET'S ASSUME THE TOWN BOARD WOULD SAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA FUND THIS OKAY.
THIS YEAR, BUT WE'LL DEFER IT, SAY NEXT YEAR.
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WHAT WOULD BE THE IMPACT TO THE DEPARTMENT? AND, YOU KNOW, WELL, THE IMPACT TO THE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE, UH, DURING SNOWSTORMS ESPECIALLY THAT WE WOULD HAVE A VEHICLE THAT MIGHT BE DOWN.YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET EVERYTHING CLEAN.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, NOT JUST THE PARKS TOO.
WE ASSIST, WE, OUR CREWS ASSIST THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE DO SIDEWALKS TOO, TOO.
BUT I MEAN, THIS PARTICULAR VEHICLE WOULDN'T DO THE SIDEWALKS.
SO WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PRIVATE DRIVEWAYS, PRIVATE DRIVE, WELL, WE DON'T DO NOT PRIVATE.
YOU CAUGHT ME THERE FOR A SECOND.
NO, IT WOULD DEFINITELY IMPACT OUR, OUR STAFF.
AND WE, RIGHT NOW WE'RE RUNNING WITH A MINIMUM NUMBER OF VEHICLES WHEN IT COMES TO JUST MOVING OUR GUYS AROUND.
WE HAVE 600 ACRES, WE HAVE 30 PARKS.
UM, JUST GETTING THEM FROM PARK TO PARK THOSE VEHICLES, UH, PERFORM A FUNCTION ALSO.
SO, AND I WOULD IMAGINE THAT REPAIR IS GONNA BE COSTLY, ESPECIALLY ON OLDER VEHICLE GETTING PARTS AND TIMING OF GETTING PARTS AS WELL AS THE COST OF GETTING PARTS.
SO EACH TIME IT SHIPS AWAY AT, UM, RIGHT.
WHEN EVERY TIME WE GO TO DO A CAPITAL BUDGET, WE GO TO THE REPAIR SHOP, WE TALK TO DPW, THEY, WE GO THROUGH THE FLEET.
UM, AND THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION BY THE PEOPLE THAT ARE FIXING THE VEHICLES.
DO WE HAVE, UM, LIKE COULD WE GET LIKE, ITEMIZATION OF LIKE HOW MANY TIMES IT'S BEEN IN THE REPAIR SHOP? AND, UH, I'M SURE, I'M SURE I COULD MAYBE ASK.
I COULD, BUT I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE THAT ROOF.
I'M SAYING, I'M SAYING IT WOULD BE, YOU CAN SEE THAT.
I THINK IT WOULD BE USEFUL BECAUSE, PAUL, ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR VEHICLE? I'M NOT EVEN, I'M NOT REALLY EVEN CONCERNED ABOUT IS THIS RHETORICAL, I'M BASICALLY SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO SHOW THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE BASICALLY REALLY ANALYZING EVERY ASPECT OF THE, OF THE BUDGET.
IF WE SAY, YOU KNOW, LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ASKING FOR A NEW VEHICLE, UH, WE COULD SHOW YOU HOW MANY TIMES IT'S BEEN AT THE REPAIR SHOP.
UM, THEN I THINK THAT PEOPLE WILL FEEL MORE COMF CONFIDENT.
I HONESTLY THINK YOU SHOULD DIRECT THAT.
I'M NOT THROWING THIS TO DPW, BUT DP W'S THE ONE WHO'S MAKING THIS DECISION.
THEY MAY HAVE, UM, A PLAN THAT THEY GO BACK AND FORTH WITH ON HOW LONG IT TAKES AND HOW MANY TIMES IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S IN FOR REPAIR.
UM, THEY'RE DEFINITELY GIVING US A RECOMMENDATION ON THIS ONE.
AND I THINK THAT WHILE YOUR IMPULSE IS GOOD, THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL ALMOST GETS, UM, IN THE WEEDS A LITTLE BIT EXCESSIVE.
BECAUSE NOW WE HAVE TO TAKE SOMEONE AWAY FROM DPW TO ANALYZE, ANALYZE, AND GET THAT INFORMATION.
AND IF, AS WE, WE KNOW THAT A CAR, YOUR CAR, NOT WITHSTANDING PAUL
THIS ONE AND THIS ONE TAKES I DON'T THINK THAT, I MEAN NO, I, I JUST WANNA LET YOU, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT THESE NUMBERS TOGETHER, I'M COGNIZANT OF THE FACT THAT I'M ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GET AS MUCH FOR OUR DEPARTMENT AS POSSIBLE.
I'M NOT GONNA ASK TO REPLACE A VEHICLE THAT I DON'T NEED TO REPLACE WHEN I HAVE OTHER PRODUCTS, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTOOD OTHER PROJECTS I NEED TO DO.
I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT YOU ONLY NEED TO REPLACE ONE.
THIS IS, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE.
PART OF THAT REASON IS, I'M NOT EVEN CRITICIZING, I'M JUST SAYING.
NO, I DIDN'T SAY, NO ONE SAYS CRITICIZE COMPARISON.
I THINK THAT DATA'S AVAILABLE HERE.
OUR REPAIR SHOP IS PRETTY MUCH ON.
I MEAN, WE WOULD HAVE MORE VEHICLES IF WE HAD NOT GOTTEN THAT $198,000.
UM, BECAUSE THE, THE DELIVERY VEHICLES WE USE FOR THE NUTRITION PROGRAM, WE'RE AT THEIR LIFE END.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS, AND THEN THESE ARE IN PRIORITY.
AND THIS HAS BEEN IN THE, UM, THE HOPPER FOR TWO YEARS ALREADY.
AND POCAN PARK PLAYGROUND AND FENCE REPLACEMENT, THE FENCE, THE BORDER FENCE AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE PLAYGROUND.
UH, IT'S A PLAYGROUND THAT WAS BUILT IN 1999.
PLAYGROUNDS HAVE A LIFE EXPECTANCY OF APPROXIMATELY 15 YEARS.
UM, WE'VE GOTTEN OUR MONEY'S WORTH OUT OF IT.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOW TIME FOR US TO, UM, MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PLAYGROUND AND REPLACE IT.
IT'S DEFINITELY A POSSIBLE PARKLAND, UM, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT POSSIBILITY FOR THAT ONE BECAUSE OF ITS LOCATION.
AND I WOULD BE WORKING WITH, UH, WINSOME FOR THAT.
AND LOOKING AT THE PLAYGROUND ALSO, THERE ARE, IF I RECALL, THERE ARE, THERE'S NEW EQUIPMENT, SAFER EQUIPMENT SURE.
THAT REALLY IT DEVELOPED SINCE THEY'VE DEVELOPED SINCE.
YEAH, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT.
I THINK THAT THAT IS DEFINITELY NEEDED.
THAT THERE'S A CD BJ POSSIBLE MATCHING GRANT.
WOULD THAT REDUCE THE NUMBER? ABSOLUTELY.
UM, BUT WE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON WHICH COMES FIRST.
WHETHER YOU GET THE CAPITAL BUDGET
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APPROVED FIRST OR WHETHER THE CDBG MONEY COMES IN FIRST.IF WE ONLY HAD TO SPEND LESS MONEY, THEN THAT WOULD, THAT MONEY WOULD REMAIN.
SO WOULD IT MAKE SENSE, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA GET THE CDBG GRANT JUST TO SAY PLAYGROUND, UH, IMPROVEMENT? SO THIS WAY WE HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY OF USING IT FOR, IF WE HAD, IF WE GET SAY, HALF OF IT, BECAUSE WE COULD ONLY THEN USE IT FOR POCO.
IF IT'S, IF IT'S SAYS POCAN, IF THE THE WORDING SAYS PLAYGROUND, THEN WE BASICALLY COULD USE IT FOR ANY PLAYGROUND.
I MEAN, TH THAT'S ACTUALLY A HA A DECENT IDEA BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER PLAYGROUND IN THE HOPPER FOR NEXT YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE OTR PLAY, OLD TAR TOWN ROAD PLAYGROUND.
AND SO MOST OF OUR PLAYGROUNDS, IF YOU LOOK AT 'EM, THERE'S ALMOST ONE EVERY YEAR, IF NOT ONE, EVERY, UH, EVERY THREE YEARS OR SOMETHING.
SO, SO MAYBE WHAT YOU SHOULD SAY IS POCAN, OLD TARRYTOWN, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, ROAD PLAYGROUND MAKE JUST A MINOR MODIFICATION.
SO THIS WAY IF WE HAVE EXTRA MONEY, WE, WE COULD USE PART OF IT FOR OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD.
WE COULD DO, I MEAN, IT WON'T BE, IT WON'T BE ENOUGH MONEY THE FOLLOWING PLAYGROUND, BUT IT WOULD HELP TO OFFSET, WELL STILL OFFSET.
IT WOULD LOWER THE AMOUNT I WOULD ASK FOR LAST YEAR.
I SAID MUSIC DID KIMBERLY'S EARS.
AND THIS IS FOR CONCRETE DECKING WORK AND STAIRWAY WORK AT THE AF VETERAN PARK POOL.
UM, MUCH OF THE CONCRETE AND DECKING WORK, UH, THERE IS, IS ORIGINAL, UH, IT GOES BACK ALL THE WAY TO WHEN IT WAS, UH, BUILT BY THE COUNTRY CLUB.
UM, AND IT'S HEATING, IT'S MOVING AND WE ARE EXPERIENCING TRIPPING HAZARDS.
UM, WE DID A STUDY, I THINK YOU CAN READ THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK, BUT WE DID A STUDY IN 2010.
WE CAME BACK WITH A POSSIBILITY OF REPLACING EVERYTHING.
I THINK IT CAME BACK AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 10 AND $15 MILLION.
WE SINCE CAME UP WITH ALTERNATIVE, UH, TO THAT WE PUT A LINER INTO THE POOLS.
THERE'S A, A TRIGGERING MECHANISM WITH THE, UH, HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
SOMETIMES IF YOU DO TOO MUCH TOO SOON, TOO FAST AND YOU WOULD LOSE SOME OF YOUR GRANDFATHER, UH, STATUS AND WHICH WOULD CAUSE THE PRICE TO GO UP TREMENDOUSLY.
SO WHAT JERRY DID WAS HE LOOKED AT IT AND HE SAID, WITH ABOUT $700,000, IF WE CUT IT OUT INTO FOUR DIFFERENT, UH, YEARS, MM-HMM
THEN WE JUST DO PART, PART OF THE, UH, SIDEWALKS AND THE DECKING WORK EACH YEAR AND WE SPREAD THAT COST OUT OVER TIME.
IT PROBABLY WON'T TRIGGER THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO COME IN AND SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.
SO THAT, AND THAT THIS HAS BEEN CUT TWO YEARS IN A ROW.
SO IS THERE A WAY TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER OR NOT THE PROBABLY IS REALISTIC? UH, OUR ENGINEERING EXPERTS HAVE TOLD US THAT WE'RE UNDER THE RADAR.
IT'S JUST OUR ARCHIVE STREAMED.
SERIOUSLY THOUGH, THERE ARE WAYS.
SO THERE ARE WAYS TO GO ABOUT IT WHERE WE PUT, UM, THE MONEY INTO, UM, SIDEWALKS THAT ARE FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE POOL.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT BREAKING ANY RULES, WE'RE JUST MEANDERING THROUGH THIS.
YOU'RE REPLACING WHAT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
AS YOU NEED THEM TO BE REPLACED.
SO THAT HOPEFULLY, I JUST WANNA LET THE COUNTY'S PORTION, SO I JUST LISTEN.
THE COUNTY TO REPLACE THE THING IS, NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
THE COUNTY COMES IN AND INSPECTS US CONSTANTLY ALL THE TIME.
AND WE'RE AWARE OF THEIR REQUIREMENTS AND WE WORK WITH THE ENGINEERING FIRMS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW ALL THE RULES.
SO WOULD IT MAKE, UH, SENSE JUST TO LIKE MAYBE NOTIFY THE COUNTY AND SAY, THIS IS THE APPROACH THAT WE'RE TAKING, JUST SO NOBODY COULD SAY WE'RE TRYING TO LIKE, GET AROUND, SAY THE, YOU KNOW, LIKE IF YOU SAY NO, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
NO, I, THE, THE COUNTY AS A MATTER OF COURSE, INSPECTS THE POOLS EVERY YEAR ANYWAY.
THEY'RE INSPECTING ANY NUMBER OF THINGS.
SO THEY'RE THERE ALL THE TIME REGARDLESS.
YOU, I, WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE THAT THIS IS FINE.
I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS WAS IN THE BUDGET TWO YEARS IN A ROW NOW AND WE HAVEN'T STARTED THIS PROJECT YET.
UM, SO I BROUGHT A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR EVERYBODY TO READ HERE.
SO HOW WILL THIS WORK WITH SOLAR? 'CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA GET THE MONEY UP FRONT.
WELL, LISTEN, YOU GOTTA, YOU GOTTA WAIT FOR THE STORY.
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OKAY.JOE, WOULD YOU PASS? OH, DIFFERENCE.
SO DO I NEED ONE? OH, DO I NEED ONE? SO THAT'S WHY WE, SO YOU HAVE MIND SHARING? WE CAN SHARE.
HOW MANY DID YOU BRING? I THINK I BROUGHT SEVEN.
WE'RE ALL, I WASN'T SURE WE PLAY NICE IN THE SANDBOX.
UM, THIS, THIS PROJECT WAS BROUGHT UP IN DECEMBER BY JERRY.
I THINK IT WAS THE ONE HE PUT UP ON THE WALL NOW IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE, WHICH IS THE PLAN FOR THE PARKING LOT.
UM, WE CAN GO THROUGH THIS REAL QUICK AND LOOK AT IT, BUT IT'S, THIS IS THE, UH, THE TWO, UM, THE TWO PARKING TO GO THUMB DRIVE.
THAT I DO NOT TERRANCE CAN PUT IT UP.
BUT IF YOU ARE GONNA POST THIS STUFF LATER, WE CAN INCLUDE THIS IN OUR, UM, SUBMISSION.
TO THE, FOR THE BOARD, UH, TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE.
SO THE FIRST PICTURE IS, UH, THE PARKING LOT AS IT IS NOW, UH, INCLUDING ALL OF ITS, UH, TORN UP, UH, PATCHWORK.
YOU CAN SEE, UH, ESPECIALLY ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE IN THE WEST PARKING LOT, BUT YOU CAN'T SEE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE IS THAT IT'S, UM, IN THE, ESPECIALLY IN THE LOWER PART OF THE PARKING LOT, IT'S UH, WHAT'S CALLED ALLIGATOR WATER GETS UNDER THE PARKING LOT AND IT PERCOLATES UP AND IT BREAKS APART ALL THE ASPHALT.
AND WE'RE CONSTANTLY REPAIRING IT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
UM, THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN PROPOSED TO THE TOWN BOARD.
I THINK IT'S GETTING CLOSE TO 20 YEARS AT THIS POINT.
UM, AND ONE OF THE REASONS WE ALWAYS HAD A DIFFICULTY WAS BECAUSE OF THE COST.
SO HOPEFULLY WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO OFFSET THAT COST A LITTLE, UM, IN THIS PROJECT.
SO THE PARKING LOT IMPROVEMENTS.
UM, IF YOU WANT TO, YOU CAN SKIP TO THE COLOR DRAWINGS, WHICH IS, UH, YOU'LL SEE THE PARKS ADMINISTRATION DRAWING.
WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CHANGING THE FLOW OF THE PARKING.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING, UM, SOME, UH, BARRIERS.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CREATING, UM, ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATIONS.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT WOULD BE SAFER.
UH, WE'D GO THROUGH OBVIOUSLY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, ALL THE VETTING THAT WOULD BE NEEDED, UM, TO CREATE A SAFE, UH, SAFER PARKING LOT.
WOULD THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE, OUR CHARGING STATIONS BE SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD'VE TO PAY THAT WAS UNDETERMINED? I WOULD SAY THAT THE PROBABILITY WE PROBABLY, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA PAY FOR THE ELECTRIC.
SO THEN WE'LL HAVE A, BECAUSE THEN IT COULD BE YEAH.
ON THE REGISTRY THAT PEOPLE HAVE AS A LOCATION THAT PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY DURING THE YEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE TRAVELING RIGHT.
I USE THE TOWN HALL, THE, THE VETERAN PARK PARKING LOT FOR ELECTRIC CHARGING, WHICH I THINK COULD BE GOOD.
HOW DOES THAT WORK WITH VETERAN? AS FAR AS THE ELECTRIC CHARGING GOES? YEAH.
PUTTING IT ON, PUTTING IT ON SOME NATIONAL NETWORK IS THE WAY TO GO.
WELL, HOW DOES IT WORK WITH FIN AND WITH THE FOOD DROP RIGHT NOW? YEAH.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING.
I KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE MAKING MONEY.
IT'S SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT.
UM, NO, WE WOULD BE MAKING MONEY.
NOT, NOT, NOT THE, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, WE WOULD GET AN ELECTRIC CHARGE, YOU KNOW, CHARGING OUTLET AND THEN THE TOWN WOULD GET ALL THE REVENUE.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, I THINK THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF REVENUE FROM PUTTING THE CHARGES, THE CHARGING STATION.
NO, BUT WE, WE, IT'S, YEAH, IT COULD PAY FOR A COUPLE CENTS OUT OF THE TWO AND A HALF MILLION.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER FOR IT.
I DO KNOW THAT IF YOU TAKE A FEDERAL GRANT, FINRA GOES AWAY.
SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT ALIGNING THIS WITH THE SOLAR PROJECT, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT'S GONNA BE AT THE END.
RIGHT? SO THESE HAVE TO BE HAND IN HAND.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER, UM, PAGE THAT'S FOLLOWING THAT IS THE WEST PARKING LOT, UM, WILL CREATE MORE SPACES FOR, UM, A DA ACCESSIBLE PARKING FOR THE SENIORS.
IT ALSO CREATE MORE CHARGING STATIONS.
IT WOULD ALSO CREATE A BARRIER AT THE BOTTOM THAT WOULD SHIELD OUR, UM, YARD WHERE WE KEEP ALL OF OUR MAINTENANCE VEHICLES.
AND, AND IT WOULD MAKE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD DEFINITELY MAKE IT A, A NICER PLACE.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, FOR THE SENIORS, MM-HMM.
WOULD WE BE ABLE TO CREATE ADDITIONAL, MAYBE DISABLED SPOTS? AND THAT'S WHAT, IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND TO LAST PAGE, PAUL, THAT'S WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE THOSE SPACES UP HERE AT THE TOP.
WE'RE GONNA LEVEL THAT OUT A LITTLE BIT AND CREATE THAT ISLAND AND CREATE MORE SPACES UP AT THE TOP.
AND THEN YOU'LL DEMOLISH THE BUILDING.
NO, WE'RE NOT DEMOLISHING THE BUILDING.
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HERE.AND OF COURSE, UM, THE FOLLOWING PAGES ARE THE BREAKDOWN THAT WE RECEIVED, UM, FROM THE STUDY.
AND THE VERY LAST PAGE IS A PICTURE OF HOW WE WOULD PAY FOR IT, OR AT LEAST OFFSET THE COST.
SO I TALKED TO GARRETT AND HE FEELS THAT WE WOULD POSSIBLY GET AN INCOME LEVEL OF 50,000 THAT'S A CONSERVATIVE AMOUNT, UH, PER YEAR FROM SOLAR.
WE'VE ASKED, UM, AND I WILL PROBABLY BE ASKING OUR NEW COMPTROLLER THAT, THAT IF WE, IF WE CAPITALIZE A PARKING LOT, IS IT A 20 YEAR CAPITAL BECAUSE OF THE LIFESPAN OF THAT PARTICULAR ENTITY? YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT DEPENDS ON HOW YOU PAY FOR IT.
AND SO THEN YOU WOULD UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH THE 50,000 WOULD SEE HOW GOOD SHE IS ALREADY.
AND WE WOULD HAVE TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG THE CAPITAL LOAN WOULD BE, UH, AND THEN WE WOULD LOOK AT HOW MUCH MONEY WAS COMING.
BUT YOU ALSO HAVE THE TENANT REVENUE.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I'M TRYING TO LOOK AT OTHER FORMS OF REVENUE TOO, AT THE SAME TIME.
BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THIS, UH, PROJECT IS ACTUALLY BEING CONSIDERED.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S AN EXPENSIVE PROJECT, WE UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A REVENUE SOURCE COMING IN AT THE SAME TIME, AND THESE TWO PROJECTS HAVE TO BE IN CONCERT, THEY, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BUILD A PARKING LOT AND THEN SINK IN, YOU KNOW, UH, DIG IT UP.
THEY DESCRIBED IT IN A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT WAYS, THOUGH.
THEY ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO WORK AROUND, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
BUT I WOULD WANT THOSE CONTRACTORS TO BE TOGETHER ON THIS AND TO HAVE A MAKES SENSE.
AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, NOT ONLY THAT, BUT SPORT TIME ITSELF, THE BUBBLE, THEY HAVE UTILITIES THAT ARE COMING IN TOO.
AND WILL THOSE UTILITIES GO THROUGH THE PARKING LOT? ALL THOSE THINGS HAVE TO BE DONE.
AND IF THEY'RE DONE TOGETHER, THEN WE CAN CREATE A PARKING LOT THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TORN UP AGAIN, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS LATER.
SO IN TERMS OF THE TENNIS COURT, RIGHT.
UM, SO THAT COULD BE USED TO OFFSET, UH, THE PARKING LOT, SOME OF THE PARKING LOTS.
SO HOW SO HOW MUCH ARE WE GONNA BE GETTING, UM, A YEAR FROM THE TENNIS COURT? MINIMUM $250,000 FOR THE FIRST YEAR.
AND SO THE FIRST YEAR WILL BE WHEN, UH, WELL, RIGHT NOW WE'RE, WAIT, YOU KNOW, HE'S CALCULATING HIS HEAD.
WE HAVE TO WAIT RIGHT NOW FOR THE STATE TO FINISH WITH THE HOME RULE.
AND GUESS WHAT? IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN THIS WEEK.
I DIDN'T WANNA SAY ANYTHING, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT DEFINITE.
SO WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
BUT I KNOW THAT YOU STILL NEED THE GOVERNOR.
BUT I KNOW THAT ASSEMBLYWOMAN SHAMSKY IS PUSHING IT TO GO THROUGH BEFORE THE END OF SESSION.
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, JOE'S OFFICE TO MAKE SURE ALL THE PAPERWORK GOT SIGNED AND EVERYTHING.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE READY TO GO.
UM, BUT WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THAT BECAUSE THE, YOU KNOW, THE VENDOR HIMSELF, HE WANTS THAT DONE.
SO WHAT, WHEN I COME UP WITH A PROPOSED CAPITAL BUDGET, RIGHT? SO YOU SAY TWO AND A HALF MILLION FOR PARKING.
UM, IF WE COULD SAY OUTTA THAT TWO AND A HALF MILLION, SINCE WE'RE BONDING IT, IT'S GONNA COST X AMOUNT, SAY A YEAR.
HOWEVER, WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING $250,000, UH, THE FIRST YEAR, UH, FOR, FROM THE TENNIS COURTS.
AND WE ANTICIPATE $50,000, UM, FROM, UH, THE SOLAR.
I, I, I JUST WANNA REMIND YOU, YOU PROMISED THE TENNIS PEOPLE THAT THE COURTS WOULD BE THE FIRST THING YOU'D SPEND THE $250,000 ON.
BUT, BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF, WHICH REALLY GOES TO OUR BENEFIT ANYWAYS.
IT DOES IT ALL, IT ALL IS PART OF THE CAPITAL SRU, YOU KNOW, TRUCTURE.
BUT IF WE, IF WE BASICALLY SAY OVER A PERIOD OF 10 YEARS, UHHUH,
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M, BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN CONCRETE AND THAT WE CAN BACK THOSE NUMBERS UP BEFORE EXACTLY.
BUT YOU FOLLOW, BUT YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING.
WE, WE NOW HAVE TWO POTENTIAL REVENUE STREAMS COMING INTO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
BUT THEIR POTENTIAL AT THIS POINT.
AND, AND, AND WHEREAS THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS REAL.
WE CAN'T PUT ANY KIND OF TIMEFRAME ON IT NECESSARILY.
BUT IF WE COULD PUT LIKE A NET, WE COULD SAY THIS IS A PROJECTION WE BASICALLY FEEL, I WOULDN'T EVEN PROJECT JUST DO, I'LL BE CONCERNED TO DO THAT.
WE DON'T WANNA PUT NUMBERS THAT WE CAN'T BACK UP UNTIL WE HAVE
WELL, WELL, WELL, MAYBE NOT SAYING EVEN THE TWO, NOT GIVING EXACT AMOUNT.
WE CAN SAY WE EXPECT SIGNIFICANT REVENUES.
UM, BECAUSE BECAUSE MY FAILING IS THAT WE TRY TO ME THEN IT THEN IT BASICALLY WILL SEND A MESSAGE TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE REALLY NOT OVERSPENDING AND WE'RE DOING, WE'RE BEING FISCALLY.
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I I THINK IT'S GONNA SEND A MESSAGE TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH FUZZY MONEY.AND THEY'D RATHER US BE CONCRETE ON SOLID GROUND.
WE'RE DOING OUR FIDUCIARY DUTY ONCE AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT.
CAN WE DOING, WE CAN MESSAGE IT THAT, BUT WE DON'T WANNA PUT A FALSE NARRATIVE OUT THERE.
BUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU APPROVE THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THERE IS A CERTAIN LEAP THERE OF FAITH THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE.
BECAUSE THERE'S NO WAY WE CAN KNOW FOR SURE.
YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW SPORT TIME, MONEY IS COMING IN, BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T, WE, IT'S BE A WHILE.
NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE FACT THAT THE, THAT THE PARKING LOT IS IN SERIOUS NEED OF PAVING.
THAT THAT'S WEAR AND TEAR ON PEOPLE ON CARS WHO PARK THERE.
AND THAT WE'RE ALSO DOING OUR PART AS GREENBERG TO NOT RELY ON FOSSIL FUELS TO SUCH AN EXTENT.
WE'RE PROVIDING THAT FACILITY FOR EVERYBODY.
SO THERE ARE A LOT, THERE ARE OFFSETS IN, IN LESS MONEY ORIENTED WAYS YES.
I THOUGHT WE WERE JUST DEVELOPING AND WE ARE GONNA LOOK INTO GRANTS ALSO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PARKING LOT.
AND I BELIEVE I SAW SOMETHING WHICH WE WERE BUSILY LOOKING FOR YEAH.
I FEEL VERY STRONGLY THAT THE REVENUE STREAM FROM FOUR TIMES COMING IN, I FEEL VERY STRONGLY AFTER TALKING TO GARRETT THAT THIS SOLAR IS GONNA HAPPEN.
I DO KNOW THEY'RE GONNA COME VERY CLOSE TOGETHER.
WELL THESE TWO HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO COME TOGETHER.
'CAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT THE PIPES IN FOR THE SOLAR FIRST.
SO WE CAN'T DO THIS, BUT THIS'S GONNA BE CONTINGENT ON THE SOLAR ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
AND WITH THE SOLAR PIPES IN RIGHT.
SOLAR IS GONNA HAPPEN AND WE'LL HAVE SOME REVENUE.
LISTEN, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN TO, I'VE BEEN TO THESE WORK SESSION WITH, AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS BOARD IS COMMITTED TO THE SOLAR.
AND SO WE NEED TO BE COMMITTED TO THE PARKING LOT.
AND, YOU KNOW, SPORT TIME IS OBVIOUSLY ALREADY A, A CONTRACT THAT'S BEEN SIGNED.
SO I JUST, THE KEY HERE IS TO BRING ALL THREE TOGETHER SO THAT WE DO IT IN THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY.
CAN I JUST ASK YOU ONE OTHER QUESTION? SORRY THAT I'M ASKING TOO MUCH, BUT, UM, UH, THE, WE'VE BEEN TOGETHER A LONG TIME, PAUL.
UM, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, UM, THERE'S DEFINITELY STATE AND OR FEDERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES, ESPECIALLY FOR SOLAR AND ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS.
UM, COULD WE JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE APPLIED FOR, UH, SIDEWALK MONEY AND FLOOD RELIEF MONEY.
I'M WONDERING IF, UM, WE COULD, UM, REACH OUT AND SEE IF WE COULD GET, YOU KNOW, A GRANT FROM THE STATE.
BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS IS REALLY EXCITING WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING SOLAR CANOPY PARKING LOTS, YOU'RE DOING ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY MAKING THE AREA GREENER.
WELL, I, I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THIS DIRECTLY, BUT THIS ALSO GOES ACROSS TO, UH, FRANCIS, THE FIN IN-LAW MAY BE A, A WRENCH IN THIS, BUT I KNOW I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CON ED AT OUR CO-OP TO PUT IN, UM, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, CHARGING STATIONS AT, BASICALLY IT'LL COME OUT WHERE WE DON'T PAY ANYTHING, BUT WE HAVE TO ALLOW 'EM TO BE USED BY THE PUBLIC.
SO THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANT TO WORK WITH THEM.
BUT THERE ARE AVENUES OF, OF, WELL, IN ANY CASE, THE PARKING SPACES WILL BE USED BY THE PUBLIC.
'CAUSE THE TENNIS IS IS AN EXCLUSION FROM THE PADDLE SPORTS.
THERE'S A CAR ACTUALLY, BUT THERE'S A, THERE'S A GEOGRAPHIC AREA THAT'S BEEN CARVED OUT BY THE STATE OF OUR PARKING LOT OH, OKAY.
IT'S NOT THE WHOLE PARKING LOT REGARDING THE GRANTS FOR SOLAR.
THOSE ARE NOT QUITE AS, UM, EASY TO OBTAIN NOW AS THEY WERE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO.
THEY'VE SORT OF DRIED UP AS IT'S BECOME MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, WIDESPREAD THE USE OF IT.
SO WE CAN, I MEAN, WE CAN TRY, BUT YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT AS AVAILABLE AS THEY WERE.
AND TAKE A LOOK AT NYSERDA AND SEE WHAT NYSERDA HAS TO OFFER AS WELL.
'CAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE, SO THEY HAVE PROGRAMMING NOW WITH THEY, SINCE THEY'RE DOING, I HAVE A HIGH PUSH WELL COUNTY PROGRAM FOR RENEWABLES.
SO WE WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT NYSERDA.
THERE, THERE'S A COUNTY PROGRAM TOO THAT UM, GREATLY DISCOUNT THEY FEDERAL EVERYTHING JUST RIGHT.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT MIGHT BE IN CONJUNCTION WITH NYER, BUT NYSERDA THERE MAY BE, 'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A PROGRAM GOING ON, SO, BUT I, I WOULD HIGHLY SUGGEST THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT NA SERTA.
I MEAN, I'LL BE WORKING CLOSELY WITH GARRETT ON THIS.
AND HE'S GOT, HE'S GOT HIS EAR RIGHT TO THE FLOOR ON THIS ONE.
PRIORITY FOUR IS THE, UH, LIGHTS AT WESTBROOK PARK FOR THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD.
UM, I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF BACKUP ON THAT BECAUSE IT CAME OUT LATE.
AND SO I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT THE $250,000 WAS A NUMBER THAT WE USED THAT LITTLE LEAGUE GAVE US.
UM, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO, AND IT'S PROBABLY HIGHER NOW.
I DID GET A VERBAL COMMITMENT FROM LITTLE LEAGUE TO SAY THAT IF IT WAS MORE THAN TWO 50, THAT THEY WOULD COVER THE COST.
UM, BUT THERE'S SEEMS HIGH GONNA HAVE TO WHAT SEEMS HIGH.
IT'S NOT LI THE STEEL TO HOLD UP THE POLES IS WHAT REALLY
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COST A LOT OF MONEY.AND LITTLE LEAGUE HAS CERTAIN, UH, STANDARDS ON HOW HIGH THE POLES HAVE TO BE, WHAT KIND OF LIGHTING.
OF COURSE EVERYTHING IS LED NOW.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WAS OUR ESTIMATE AT THE TIME.
SO, AND THE LIGHTS WOULD BE DIRECTED AND THERE WOULD BE, UM, THERE SPECIAL LIGHTING NOW THAT THAT CUTS OUT THE AMBIENT LIGHTS SO THAT IT WOULD NOT BE PROBLEMATIC FOR YEAH.
THE LIGHT, THE LIGHT POLLUTION THAT YOU HAVE NOW IS SO MUCH LESS THAN IT USED TO BE.
THE LIGHTS SHINE DOWN SO DIRECTLY THAT THERE ARE TIMES THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT A SECOND LIGHT ON THE BLEACHERS BECAUSE THERE'S SO LITTLE LIGHT THAT COMES OFF THE FIELD.
UM, THAT'S THE CASE NOW WITH ALL THE LIGHTS THAT THEY COME OUT WITH.
UM, IT'S, IT, THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE SOME VETTING INVOLVED.
THE LITTLE LEAGUE HAS AGREED TO TRY TO CANVAS THE AREA AROUND, UH, BABA COURT TO, TO, DOESN'T HAVE A CHOICE.
THIS ALWAYS, THIS HAS BEEN RAISED BEFORE AND IT'S DIED BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORS DIDN'T WANT IT.
BECAUSE THIS ALLOWS THEM TO PLAY LATER INTO THE EVENING.
THEY'VE AGREED NOT TO PLAY PAST NINE O'CLOCK.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT, UH, WHAT THEY'RE, WHAT TIME DO THEY CURRENTLY PLAY? TILL, UNTIL DARK.
AND I THINK THAT THE MOST USE OF THE LIGHTS WOULD COME IN APRIL AND MAY WHEN THEY CAN'T PLAY, UH, LATE AT ALL.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO DO, IS TO EXTEND THEIR PLAYING TIME, ESPECIALLY IN MAY AND APRIL.
THEY NEED TO WORK ON GETTING, YOU KNOW, BABBITT COURT'S BEEN THROUGH A LOT ALREADY.
UM, THEY NEED TO GET THE NEIGHBORS ON BOARD.
I'M GONNA DO THE REACH OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TO, UH, TO THE RESIDENTS.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA SPEAK TO THE LITTLE LEAGUE, UM, YOU KNOW, LEADERSHIP ABOUT THAT.
I'VE ALREADY HAD SOME DISCUSSIONS.
IT WAS SORT OF INTERESTING BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S LIKE 750, UH, FAMILY CHILDREN WHO PLAY IN THE ELMSFORD LITTLE LEAGUE FROM ALL OVER THE TOWN.
EDGEMONT, IRVINGTON, UM, FAIRVIEW, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY IS ONE OF THE BEST LEAGUES AROUND.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT THIS WILL ENABLE THEM TO HAVE MANY MORE GAMES.
AND IT'S A REAL QUALITY OF LIFE INITIATIVE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LACK OF PLAYING FIELDS IN, IN GREENBURG.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LACK OF PLAYING FIELDS THERE.
WELL, RIGHT NOW, RIGHT NOW, ELMSFORD LITTLE LEAGUE USES WE PARTNERSHIP, OBVIOUSLY WESTBERG IS OUR PARK, BUT THEY USE IT PRIMARILY FOR ALL THE LITTLE LEAGUE.
WE PUT IN A PLAYGROUND THERE RECENTLY.
WE PUT IN A, UH, AWNING OVER THE PLAYGROUND.
WE ALSO ALLOW THEM TO USE SECOR WOODS TWO PARK, UH, PLAYGROUNDS.
THEY USE YOSEMITE PARK, UM, BALL FIELD.
AND THEY'RE NOW USING WEB TWO OCCASIONALLY, UH, PRESSOR PARK.
UM, I DO THINK THIS IS PROBABLY GONNA BE A HEAVY LIFT THOUGH.
IT, IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO DOUBT ELMSFORD GREENBERG, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS IT, UH, GREENBERG, UH, PART OF THE GREENBERG RECREATIONAL EXPERIENCE.
THE UM, BUT I CAN'T DO THAT TO THE PEOPLE OF BABA COURT IF THEY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE BABIES ABSOLUTELY.
AND THEY'RE TRYING TO PUT 'EM TOGETHER AT 7 30, 8 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT AND THEY PLAY UNTIL NINE.
IT'S NOT JUST THE LIGHTS, IT'S THE NOISE.
ELMSFORD, ELMSFORD THINKS THEY CAN GET 'EM ON BOARD.
I I, I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT JUST LIKE YOU TO AGREE WITH THAT TOO.
UM, BUT THEY'RE, I WOULD ALSO, I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE, UH, JOE, THAT AGAIN, YOU LOOK AT YOUR GOVERNMENTAL PARTNERS TO SEE WHERE YOU CAN GET SOME TYPE OF FUNDING SURE.
FOR, FOR THE LIGHTING BECAUSE IT IS OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY WITH THE RENEWABLES GOING ON, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
I'LL REACH OUT TO EVERYBODY ON BABBITT COURT JUST SO NOBODY COULD SAY THAT.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T, LITTLE LEAGUE ALSO HAS, WHY DON'T YOU COORDINATE IT WITH THE LITTLE LEAGUE SO THEY'RE NOT DOING IT AT CROSS PURPOSES TO EACH OTHER.
JUST, YEAH, DEFINITELY JOINT VENTURE.
EVEN A JOINT MEETING AND MAYBE HAVE THE CONTRACTORS, UM, YOU KNOW, A ZOOM MEETING WHERE THEY COULD SHOW THE WAY THE LIGHTS ARE.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THIS WAY EVERYBODY BASICALLY KNOWS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.
IT'S, UH, INTERESTING THAT WE HAVE TWO, WE HAVE TWO FIELDS AT ROMBERG PARK.
AND I FLEW THE DRONE OVER THE TOP.
AND YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE LIGHT POLLUTION OR LIGHT BLEED, THEY CALL IT OFF OF THE FIELD BETWEEN THE TWO.
UH, THEY'RE JUST COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
SO I HAVE FOUR ITEMS, BUT I HAVE A LOT OF MONEY RIGHT ON HERE.
UM, SO, BUT WE ARE HAVING SOME OFFSETS WHEN IT COMES TO REVENUES COMING IN.
AND UM, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COVERED ALL THAT.
ARE, ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED THE BA UH, THE BABBITT COURT.
BESIDES THAT, IS THERE ANY ISSUES THAT ANYBODY HAS WITH ANY OF THESE UH, REQUESTS? NOT RIGHT NOW.
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JUST THE CONCERN FOR THE RESIDENTS OF BABBITT COURT.AND THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WILL FALL TO THE, UM, LITTLE LEAGUE.
I'M RESERVING DECISION UNTIL WE SEE ALL OF THE CAPITALISTS.
THIS IS I'M FIRST YOU THE FIRST THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO PRIORITIZE.
I THOUGHT I GOTTA VOTE TONIGHT.
I JUST DON'T WANNA MAKE A COMMITMENT.
'CAUSE YOU'RE FIRST AND THEN SOMEBODY COMES ALONG.
OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, WE SPENT THE MONEY.
NO, NOELLE WANTED TO BE HERE TONIGHT, BUT SHE'S WITH THE CAMP DIRECTORS.
'CAUSE WE HAVE NEW CAMP DIRECTORS.
I THOUGHT THAT ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS MET WITH OUR NEW CAMP DIRECTORS IN TERMS OF, UM, I SENT OUT A E-BLAST, UH, EARLIER TODAY IN TERMS OF LIKE A TIMELINE AND, UM, A WORK WORK PLAN.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD ALSO, YOU KNOW, PRESENT? SO WE HAVE LIKE, SAY A SCHEDULE? UM, I STARTED, I, I I STARTED WORKING ON, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THOUGH, BECAUSE YOU SENT IT OUT TODAY AND I WAS THE FIRST ONE I FELT NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT PRESSURE.
IS THAT SOMETHING I, SO I STARTED, I, I, LISTEN, I STARTED WORKING ON IT.
AND I DID ONE, I DID THE MECHANICO ONE.
HOW CAN I START A TIMELINE WHEN I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE MONEY'S COMING? RIGHT.
WELL, LET'S SAY YOU ASSUME THAT IT'S SEPTEMBER.
CAN I JUST, CAN I PUT IN A RANDOM DATE AND JUST SAY, WELL, HOW BAD IF YOU DO IT.
THAT'S WHAT I, I DID JUST DO IT BY WEEKS WITHOUT ASSIGNING DATES.
THE, UPON THE APPRO UPON THE HOW MUCH TIME IT WILL TAKE.
NOT WITH AND BETWEEN EACH, EACH STEP.
THAT'S HARD TO DO TOO, BECAUSE IF YOU GET THE MONEY IN SEPTEMBER AND YOU'RE OUT OF THE CONSTRUCTION SEASON, THAT'S TRUE TOO.
THAT'S, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU JUST, THAT COULD BE, THAT COULD BE PART OF THE TIMETABLE.
THAT'S WHY YOU PUT UNTIL BE DETERMINED.
JUST OUTLINE EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE.
CAN IT WORKABLE WEEKS? ABSOLUTELY.
YOU JUST NOTE THAT THERE'S A CAVEAT.
CAN I JUST WRITE AT THE BOTTOM SUBJECT TO CHANGE?
HOW'S THAT? YOU HEARD IT FROM MY ATTORNEY? YES, OF COURSE YOU WILL.
BUT LEMME LET ME ASK THE CONTROLLER.
THE, THE QUESTION IS, DOES EVERYTHING HAVE TO BE FULLY FUNDED, UH, IN A CAPITAL BUDGET? SO LET'S SAY IT'S GONNA TAKE US, LET'S SAY THE PARKING LOT'S GONNA TAKE US TWO YEARS OR THREE YEARS TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GET DONE TO REDUCE SOME OF THE INITIAL COSTS.
COULD WE SPLIT UP AND SAY WE'RE, INSTEAD OF DOING TWO AND A HALF MILLION, WE'RE GONNA DO ONE AND A HALF.
WE'RE GONNA DO IT IN TWO PHASE.
WE'RE GONNA, WE CAN DO IT IN PHASES.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE FROM YOUR STANDPOINT? JUST PUSH IT JUST A LITTLE CLOSER.
DO YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YES.
BUT I, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CONTRACTOR IN PHASES TOO.
SO THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE ME A CONTRACT IN PHASE TOO.
SO WHICH WOULD COST, MIGHT COST MORE.
BUT THEY SHOULD BE GIVING YOU A SCHEDULE SERVICES ANYWAY.
BUT AGAIN, WE DON'T HAVE TO LOOK AT YOUR REVENUE CHAIN, WHICH ONES WE'RE DOING BEFORE WE GET INTO, BUT ALL IT'S A POSSIBILITY.
BUT I'M JUST SORT OF WONDERING, SAY FOR THE PARKING, LET'S ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY'S FOR THE PARKING AND WE'RE GONNA DO THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING, UM, IF THERE'S A WAY OF SAYING, OKAY, WE COULD, UH, MAKE IT A LITTLE LESS EXP YOU KNOW, WE COULD BREAK IT UP INTO SAY, TWO YEARS BECAUSE WE DON'T, UNLESS THEY'RE GONNA GET EVERYTHING DONE BY NEXT YEAR.
DON'T, HERE'S THE OTHER THING YOU'RE FORGETTING THOUGH.
SO DOES, DO WE, ARE WE BREAKING THAT UP INTO TWO YEARS TOO? YOU KNOW, ARE WE NOW NOT GONNA TAKE THE REVENUE IN FROM THE PARKING LOT? I'M JUST, I'M THINKING THAT THAT PARTICULAR INSTANCE, THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE BEST EXAMPLE MAYBE IN OTHERS BECAUSE THE COORDINATION, AS JOE MENTIONED, UH, COMMISSION IS GONNA BE REALLY COMPLICATED TO BEGIN WITH IN WORKING WITH THE THREE DIFFERENT, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE PARKING LOT UNLESS IT'S TIED TO THE SOLAR, WHICH MEANS YOU HAVE TO DO THAT.
I DON'T WANNA RIP UP A PARKING LOT BECAUSE WE THEN DECIDE LATER DO SOLAR.
I CAME HERE THINKING THAT THAT WAS THE EXPECTATION OF, SO LET'S FIGURE OUT THE TIMELINE ON THE SOLAR.
AND THAT'LL TELL US THE TIMELINE ON THE PARKING.
BUT THAT, BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT IF WE, OR WELL IN AGREEMENT THAT IT SHOULD BE DONE.
THERE'S NO DISC, THERE'S NO CONTROVERSY OVER THIS.
THE ONLY THING THAT I'M SAYING IS, IS THERE A WAY OF, UM, YOU KNOW, MEETING WITH THE SOLO PEOPLE, THE SPORT TIME, THE KIND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN SORT OF SAYING, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, UM, THIS IS THE TIMELINE BY NEXT YEAR AT THIS TIME, THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA GET DONE.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO PAY FOR FOR PHASE TWO.
UM, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA BE FA PUTTING IN NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING IT MAKES SENSE, BUT I, IT'S AT LEAST IT'S POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, I'D HAVE TO GET THE PLAYERS ALL IN THE SAME ROOM AT THE SAME TIME.
OR WE'D HAVE, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
NOT TO WAY YOU'RE DESCRIBING, BUT I THINK HE CAN PUT A PRO, HE CAN PUT, UM, SOMETHING IN PLACE JUST TO SHOW WHAT THE PROCESS IS GOING TO BE.
AND THEN THE STEPS IS GONNA TAKE, AND THEN YOU COULD JUST PUT, WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT DATES.
SO DON'T I GET SOMETHING FROM BEING FIRST? I'M SORRY.
DID YOU GET SOMETHING? DO I GET LIKE A TOOTSIE ROLL OR SOMETHING? YOU KNOW SOMETHING? THIS IS ALL PIECE NICE.
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WE HAVE LIZ WAITING FOR YES.ALL PROBABLY OUR THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.
UM, ER WHAT IS THAT ACRONYM? NEW YORK STATE ENERGY RENEWABLE SOMETHING.
IT'S NEW YORK STATE, NEW YORK STATE ENERGY RENEWAL DEVELOPMENT.
I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
I CAN LOOK IT UP AND SEND IT TO YOU.
LISTEN, YOU'RE RIGHT, IT COULD BE, I'M SORRY.
WE USE A LOT OF ACRONYMS. AN INTERESTING QUESTION BECAUSE I YOU DIDN'T HEARD AN ERDA ALL THE TIME AND THEN YES.
AND I'VE BEEN USING IT FOR YEARS AND SO I'LL, I'LL I'LL LOOK AT IT RIGHT NOW.
SO EVERYONE, NEW YORK STATE ENERGY RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY.
HOW DID YOU KNOW THAT? THANK YOU.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU'RE GIVING ME SOME TIME TO, UH, I'VE SENT YOU GUYS A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT I KNOW EVERYBODY'S BUSY IN MAY.
IS THAT BETTER? YOU CAN BRING IT CLOSER TO YOU DON'T HAVE TO LEAN IN COMFORTABLE FOR YOURSELF.
UM, SO I WANT TO ACTUALLY, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO HEAR YOU TALKING ABOUT FOCUSING ON SOLAR AND MOVING AWAY FROM FOSSIL FUELS EARLIER, BECAUSE THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THIS BILL IS ALL ABOUT.
UM, SINCE I DON'T WANNA MAKE ANY ASSUMPTIONS, I DON'T KNOW HOW FAMILIAR EVERYBODY IS WITH THE TWO BILLS THAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
DO WE NOT HAVE COPIES OF THE BILLS ONLINE? THEY WERE EMAILED, BUT A WHILE AGO.
I MEAN, JUST GIVE US A QUICK BRIEF, LIKE HIGH LEVEL.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THEY'RE BEING LINKED? BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE PACKAGING REDUCTION, BUT THE LAST TIME THIS CAME UP AT A WORK SESSION, I ASKED, YOU KNOW, WHO IS GETTING THE, THE MONEY FROM PEOPLE NOT RECYCLING AND IT'S GENERALLY THE INDUSTRY AND IT'S LIKE TO ME OTHER, WAIT, WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHO'S GETTING, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU DON'T RETURN A RECYCLED BOTTLE.
YOU, THE, THE SUPERMARKETS ALREADY HAVE COLLECTED THE 10 CENTS PER BOTTLE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED THAT IN THE PAST HAS GONE TO THE INDUSTRY AND NOT TO ENERGY CONSERVATION EFFORTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS BILL? WELL, THE 10 CENTS WOULD GO BACK TO THE CONSUMER.
SO I HAVE TO BE HONEST, THE BETTER BOTTLE BILL, RIGHT.
THEY JUST, UM, THIS, THE, UM, ASSEMBLY AND SENATE JUST RECONCILED WITHIN THE LAST 48 HOURS.
AND I'M ACTUALLY, THERE'S A MEETING RIGHT NOW WHERE THEY'RE DISCUSSING, SO I'M NOT FULLY UP TO DATE ON WHERE THAT STANDS.
UM, SO IF YOU WANTED TO LEAVE THAT OUT OF THE RESOLUTION, THAT'S FINE.
SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE, UH, BUT MY, MY MAIN ASK IS THAT YOU PASS A RESOLUTION, WHICH, UM, AT THIS POINT I USED TO BE ABLE TO RATTLE OFF BY MEMORY HOW MANY TOWNS, BUT THANKFULLY THE LIST HAS GROWN AND CORRECT.
SO THE MAIN BILL IS THE PACKAGING REDUCTION AND RECYCLING INFRASTRUCTURE ACT.
AND THE POINT OF THE BILL IS THAT RIGHT NOW, MUNICIPALITIES AND TAXPAYERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR PAYING FOR PROCESSING WASTE, AS YOU ALL KNOW.
AND THIS BILL WOULD SHIFT THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PEOPLE PRODUCING THE WASTE MANUFACTURERS.
AND THERE'S A 12 YEAR PLAN THAT WOULD REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF PACKAGING.
ULTIMATELY IT'LL BE A 50% REDUCTION IN SMALL INCREMENTS.
AND I BROUGHT SOME, SOME TOYS TO SHARE JUST IN TERMS OF, I'M SURE YOU ALREADY KNOW THIS, BUT JUST HOW ABSURD PACKAGING IS, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
RIGHT? IT GOES UP TO, FOR US PEAK SKILL.
AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER PIECE OF PLASTIC TO FINALLY GET TO THIS LITTLE TEENY TINY PRODUCT.
WHEN I COULD SIMPLY JUST BUY THAT OFF THE SHELF.
I DON'T NEED ALL THIS OTHER ERRONEOUS STUFF.
SO THE POINT OF THE BILL IS THAT IT SWITCHES THE RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PRODUCERS, WHICH GIVES THEM INCENTIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE CHARGED FEES WHEN FOR NOT BEING COMPLIANT.
AND THOSE FEES ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO GO BACK TO MUNICIPALITIES TO HELP BUILD OUT INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROCESS, WHETHER IT BE BETTER RECYCLING OR REFILL STATIONS.
EVERY COMPANY WILL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT FOR THEMSELVES WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.
UM, AND LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT.
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AND, UM, SO OVER THE 12 YEAR PERIOD, PACKAGING WILL BE REDUCED AND INCREMENTS DOWN TO 50% REDUCTION AS WELL AS WHAT'S REMAINING HAS TO BE 75% RECYCLABLE.AND WHAT THAT DOES IS IT BASICALLY ELIMINATES PLASTIC MM-HMM.
UM, WHAT ABOUT STYROFOAM? WELL, THAT'S ALREADY BANNED IN NEW YORK, BUT IT'S STILL BEING UTILIZED.
LIKE WHAT ARE SOMETHING FROM AMAZON? IT COMES WITH WELL, THAT'S THE WHOLE IDEA.
YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO SHIP IT INTO THE STATE.
SAYING THAT YOU COULD SAY THAT WITH FRACKING AS WELL.
WE'VE NEW YORK STATE BANNED FRACKING, BUT ALL OF OUR NATURAL GAS IS STILL FRACKED.
WE'RE JUST GETTING IT FROM OUTTA STATE.
UM, SO THIS IS THE SAME THING.
IT WILL BAN, THE COMPANY WON'T BE ABLE TO SEND, UH, OF COURSE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO BE, I HAVE A NET INCOME OF, I THINK SOMETHING I SENT YOU SAID 1 MILLION.
IT'S ACTUALLY GONE UP TO 5 MILLION OF NET EARNINGS FOR THIS LAW TO APPLY.
SO SMALLER COMPANIES, SMALLER MOM AND POPS WON'T BE PENALIZED.
HOPEFULLY THEY'LL DO IT JUST FOR THE SAKE OF DOING IT.
BUT WHY WAS THAT CHANGE ME? BECAUSE A LOT OF INDUSTRY PUSHBACK, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THESE ARE LARGE COMPANIES AND IF NEW YORK STATE IS ONE OUTTA 50 THAT REQUIRES IT.
I DON'T, ARE THERE OTHER STATES? I DON'T REMEMBER WHO HAVE IMPLEMENTED THIS.
SO FOUR OTHER STATES HAVE, BUT IT'S VERY WEAK AND IT REALLY, THE OTHER STATES REALLY CAVE TO INDUSTRY AND PAST LAWS THAT ARE, HAVE TONS OF LOOPHOLES, INCLUDING CALIFORNIA.
SO THE HOPE IS THIS LAW WILL ALSO BE A MODEL FOR THE REST OF THE STATE COUNTRY, RIGHT.
THIS, THIS WAS, THIS WAS IN THE, THIS WAS PROPOSED BEFORE THIS LAW.
CORRECT? IT WAS PROPOSED, BUT IT IS, AND THE CLOSEST IT'S EVER BEEN THIS YEAR.
I DON'T REMEMBER BECAUSE I REMEMBER LOOKING AT THIS WAY BACK FOR ANOTHER REASON THAT, UM, WHETHER IT JUST NEVER MADE IT OUT OF A COMMITTEE IN ONE OR BOTH HOUSES, OR WHETHER IT DID MAKE IT OUT AND WAS VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR.
IT HAS NEVER MADE IT OUTTA COMMITTEE.
THIS IS THE FIRST YEAR, AND ACTUALLY TODAY IN THE ASSEMBLY, IT PASSED THE LAST TWO HURDLES, IT WAS VOTED OUT OF, OF CODES COMMITTEE AND THE WAYS AND MEANS.
SO NEXT STOP IS THE FLOOR FOR A VOTE.
AND THE SENATE, I THINK IT WAS HAPPENING TODAY.
I'M NOT, AS I SAID, I'M NOT AT THE MEETING TO GET THE HIGHLIGHTS, BUT IT WAS, UM, IN THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, WHICH WAS THE BILL'S LAST STOP IN THE SENATE.
AND OF COURSE THE BIG HURDLE WILL BE IF, IF THEY BRING IT TO THE FLOOR, IT WILL PASS.
BECAUSE BOTH BILLS HAVE MAJORITY SUPPORT, MORE THAN MAJORITY SUPPORT IN BOTH HOUSES.
AND AS I SAID, LAST YEAR, THEY RECONCILED THE BILL.
SO THEY'RE THE SAME AND THEY HELD HEARINGS.
SO EVERYTHING HAS BEEN FULLY VETTED.
SO ALL WE HAVE TO DO IS PASS A RESOLUTION THAT PUT A LITTLE PRESSURE SUPPORT.
SO WHEN, IF THERE'S, IF THE, WE COULD DO IT IF EVERYBODY WANTS, UH, AT THE NEXT MEETING.
NOT TOMORROW, BUT RIGHT AT THE NEXT MEETING, THE NEXT MEETING, NEXT MEETING, OKAY.
WHICH BOARD? LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE? WOULD IT MAKE SENSE? UH, SINCE WE MEET TUESDAYS AND WORK SESSION, THIS ISN'T REALLY GONNA BE CON SPECIAL MEETING.
THE ONLY REASON I'M, THE ONLY REASON I'M SUGGESTING IT IS BECAUSE ALBANY AT THIS POINT, SORT OF LIKE ENDING SESSION LEFT, AND IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE AS MUCH OF AN IMPACT IF IT'S DONE AT THE END OF MAY, RATHER THAN IF IT'S DONE NEXT WEEK.
WHEN IS THE END OF SESSION? JUNE.
SO WE DO, WE, OUR NEXT MEETING IS MAY 22ND.
SECOND SOONER WOULD BE BETTER
IT JUST, I'LL BE IN ALBANY ON TUESDAY LOBBYING FOR THIS BILL.
THIS WAY YOU COULD SAY, LOOK, THE, IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
WELL, YOU CAN JUST SAY THAT IN THEORY AS WELL.
IF, IF, IF THAT'S, IF THE INTENT IS TO PASS IT, THEN I CAN LET THEM KNOW AND THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
OTHER THAN THE BOTTLE BILL, I THINK YOU'RE PREACHING TO THE CONVERTED FOR THE BOTTLE BILL TO SIMPLE QUESTION, WHERE'S THE 10 CENTS GOING FOR THE PEOPLE WHO DO NOT REDEEM THE BOTTLES? AND THE PREVIOUS BILL, IT WAS A WINDFALL FOR THE INDUSTRY, RIGHT? SO THAT WAS CHANGED CURRENTLY IN THE CURRENT BILL, IT WAS A WINDFALL, BUT CURRENTLY ONLY 50% GOES BACK TO THE COMPANY AND 50% GOES BACK TO THE STATE AT THIS.
THAT'S HOW IT CURRENTLY STANDS.
I CAN SAY THAT AT 10 CENTS, THERE'S A MUCH HIGHER RETURN RATE.
I THINK NEW YORK STATE HAS A 60% RETURN RATE.
STATES THAT HAVE THE 10%, 10 CENTS HAVE AN 80%.
REALLY? SO THAT'S LESS MONEY THAT'S OUT THERE FLOATING AROUND.
WELL, SOME STATES, YOU KNOW, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE THIS WAS FIRST BROUGHT TO US, AND I READ THE DATA.
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THAT'S NOT TRUE THROUGH ACROSS THE BOARD.IT'S, BUT THE, IN SOME STATES IT'S BEEN THAT EFFECTIVE, BUT CAN'T SAY THAT THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA BE HERE.
UM, BUT, UH, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW.
PRESUMABLY THERE'LL BE, UH, MARKETING TO GO ALONG WITH IT TO EDUCATE CONSUMERS.
IT, IT, IT IS PRETTY AMAZING TO ME.
I MEAN, I HAD NO IDEA WHY I SHOULD CARE IF IT'S GOING IN THE RECYCLE BIN VERSUS SCH SLIPPING EVERYTHING TO CHICOS TO GET MY 5 CENTS BACK.
BUT NOW THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT, IT'S FULL TRANSPARENCY AND EVERYBODY I TELL IS LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN FULL TRANSPARENCY? I'M LIKE, WELL, THE BARCODE, WHEN YOU BUY IT, IT GETS SCANNED.
AND THEN WHEN YOU PUT IT IN THAT REVERSE VENDING, IT GETS SCANNED IN AND IT CAN BE TRACKED ALL THE WAY BACK TO COKE, PEPSI, WHOEVER.
SO THERE'S FULL ACCOUNTABILITY, THE JOUR THAT THERE'S FULL ACCOUNTABILITY FOR THAT JOURNEY.
AND WHEN YOU SAY IT GOES BACK TO THE STATE IS A FUND THAT IT GOES IN, AND WHAT IS THAT USED FOR? WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THAT? I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STATE IS USING THE FUND FOR.
IF IT'S GOING BACK FOR, TO PROMOTE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL POSITIVE, UH, MEASURES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WITHOUT REMOVING THEIR EXISTING BASE FUNDING.
LIKE WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH LOTTO.
IT WAS ALL SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR EDUCATION.
YES, IT'S BEING USED FOR EDUCATION, BUT THEY PULLED OUT ALL THE OTHER MONEY AND USED IT FOR OTHER THINGS.
SO OF COURSE, THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO HAVE PEOPLE ACTUALLY RETURN THE BOTTLE SO THAT AS TAXPAYERS, WE'RE GETTING THAT 10 CENTS BACK AND FOR 10 CENTS, IT'S A LITTLE, THERE IS MORE INCENTIVE TO DO IT.
WELL, THEY MAKE IT A DOLLAR, THEY'LL DEFINITELY DO IT.
YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE THAN SOME BOTTLE A CAR.
I ACTUALLY BUY, UH, MY MILK AND GLASS FROM MOM'S MARKET AND IT'S $3 A BOTTLE, SO YOU CAN BE SURE I RETURN EVERY ONE OF THOSE BOTTLES.
SO YES, AT $3 YOU BRING IT BACK.
SO, SO YOU'LL SAY THERE'S A REVISION THAT'S GONNA BE UP ON THE WEBSITE IN THE NEXT DAY OR SO.
I WILL LET YOU KNOW WHAT I HEAR.
I'M SUPPOSED TO SPEAK TO THEM LATER.
ANY FINAL UPDATES? UPDATES? SO YOU CAN SEND US ABOUT BOTH.
THE PACKAGING BILL AT THIS POINT IS SET, AND IT'LL JUST BE A MATTER OF GETTING IT TO THE FLOOR FOR A VOTE.
SO THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY CHANGES TO THAT? NO.
THAT HAS BEEN THE ONLY CHANGE WAS INCREASING FROM A MILLION TO 5 MILLION.
I THINK THE ISSUES ARE GONNA HAPPEN AFTER IT GETS PASSED WHEN GOVERNOR HOEL TRIES TO ADD CHAPTER AMENDMENTS AND THAT WILL BE A FIGHT.
BUT WE'RE WELL AWARE OF CHAPTER AMENDMENTS.
BUT I WILL SAY THE GROUP I'M WORKING WITH BEYOND PLASTICS, SHE, UM, JUDITH AN WHO WORKED FOR THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION FOR EIGHT YEARS, SHE WORKED VERY CLOSELY ON THE CARPET, CARPET RECYCLING BILL, AND SHE WAS ABLE, WAS VERY INFLUENTIAL IN GETTING THE SENATOR WHO CO-SPONSORED THAT NOT TO CAVE TO HO'S CHAPTER AMENDMENTS.
WHO WAS THE SENATOR? I DON'T REMEMBER.
I WASN'T INVOLVED IN, BUT, UM, GOING BACK, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT UP TO THE SENATOR.
IT'S THE THREE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
IF IT GOES THROUGH REGULAR PROCESS, THE WHOEVER SPONSORS THE BILL IS INVOLVED IN AGREEING TO CHAPTER AMENDMENTS.
WELL, IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE SAME PERSON.
WELL, NO, IT'S THE OTHER PERSON, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT.
SO THEY CAN MUCH, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE WILLING TO CHALLENGE HER AND SAY, GO AHEAD AND VETO AND THE CARPET RECYCLING, SHE, SHE BACKED DOWN.
SO ALL THIS IS A GREAT, THANK YOU VERY, LIZ, APPRECIATE YOU.
REALLY APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE YOU COMING.
WAS SPEAKING, UH, TO RICH FUN.
THIS MIGHT INTEREST YOU WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, RECYCLING.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, OR HE'S LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF, UM, CREATING DIFFERENT RECYCLING, YOU KNOW, CENTER AREAS AROUND THE TOWN AT DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
UM, UM, YOU KNOW, SO HE'S BEEN WORKING ON THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE REALLY, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE AND IT WOULDN'T BURDEN LIKE ONE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IF WE HAVE SAY, THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AROUND THE TOWN MM-HMM.
I'LL JUST ADD MY LAST, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY REALIZES THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT RECYCLING VERSUS DOWN CYCLING AND WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH, WHEN THE, WHEN THE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS INTERESTING.
UM, AND THEY HAD A REALLY INTERESTING, UM, YOU PROGRAM A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, UM, THAT, UH, THEY PUT LIKE LITTLE, LIKE, THEY PUT THINGS IN CY, THE PLASTIC RECYCLING UHHUH
AND, UM, A LOT THE QUESTION I, BUT THE QUESTION I HAD IS EVERY TIME I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE COUNTY, UM, RECYCLING COORDINATOR SAID, OH, THE COUNTY DOES IT DIFFERENTLY.
BUT WOULD IT BE THE SAME? IS IT REGARDING BAGS OR PLASTIC BAGS? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT IF I'M, IF WE'RE PICKING UP ALL THESE PLASTICS AT THE TOWN, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
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SURE THAT IT ACTUALLY GETS RECYCLED? IS GETTING RECYCLED? I'VE ASKED MANY.IT'S PROPRIETARY INFORMATION, PAUL, I'VE BEEN TOLD.
REALLY? THAT'S THE YONKERS MUR.
BECAUSE I'M THINKING THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ASKED YONKERS MM-HMM.
WHAT IS PROPRIETARY? NOT WELL, THE MURPH, WHICH IS THE COUNTY, THE YONKERS MURPH.
BECAUSE I, I WOULD, I WAS THINKING THAT IT'S PROPRIETARY TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT, BECAUSE THE INTERESTING, THE INTERESTING THING IS I DIDN'T THINK A MUNICIPALITY COULD HAVE RETIRED.
AM I FORGETTING THE RUNS? THE, WHO'S THE COUNTY PERSON WHO'S IN CHARGE? THE COUNTY EXEC.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE REALLY INTERESTING? UM, BECAUSE, UM, THE A, B, C, IT WAS REALLY FASCINATING.
THEY PUT LIKE LITTLE TAGS ON LIKE THE BOTTLES.
AND THEN THE BOTTLES, NOT PLASTIC BAGS, THE PLA THE PLASTIC, YOU KNOW, BOTTLES.
AND THEN THEY WERE TRACKING WHERE IT WENT.
AND THEY FOUND THAT MOST OF IT WAS GOING LIKE TO COSTA RICA OR GUATEMALA, AND, UM, WASN'T BEING USED AT ALL FOR RECYCLING.
SO THE THING IS, I I'M SORT OF WONDERING WITH THE TA, WITH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SPENDING ALL THE FORTUNE, DO YOU KNOW WHY, WHY IT'S NOT GOING RECYCLE? LIZ, YOU WOULD HAVE TO USE THE MIC BECAUSE YOU CAN PICK IT UP.
BECAUSE PLASTIC CANNOT BE RECYCLED.
IT'S SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO TEASE OUT ALL THE PLASTIC AND RECYCLING.
SO THEN WHY ARE WE LIKE WASTING SO MUCH RESOURCES ON COMMINGLE RECYCLING? SO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA SEE OVER THE NEXT FEW UP YEARS, RIGHT? RIGHT NOW THERE'S HEARINGS HAPPENING IN, IN CONGRESS IN DC AND I KNOW THERE'S A COUPLE OF, COUPLE OF STATES HAVE STARTED LAWSUITS THAT THE FOSSIL FUEL INDUSTRY, WHICH IS PLASTIC MM-HMM.
THEY'VE KNOWN SINCE THE SEVENTIES THAT PLASTIC CANNOT BE RECYCLED.
AND THEY, INSTEAD OF BEING HONEST, THEY HID IT AND WORKED ON MARKETING CAMPAIGNS TO CONVINCE US THAT RECYCLING IS REAL AND HAPPENING.
I MEAN, PLASTIC, PLASTIC BOTTLES ARE NOT ONE AND TWO CAN BE RECYCLED ONCE OR TWICE, BUT THEN THE INTEGRITY BREAKS DOWN TOO MUCH.
AND WHAT ABOUT IF IT SAYS THAT SOMETHING'S MADE OUT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, 75% RECYCLABLE PLASTIC OR, OR, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY GIVE, WELL THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF, THAT'S PART OF THE MOST THINGS ARE NO MORE THAN 10%.
AND THAT'S HOW TO BEYOND PLASTIC, THIS IS REALLY BAD.
DESCRIBED IT AS A PLASTIC PONZI SCHEME SO THAT IF YOU USE 10%, THAT MEANS YOU STILL HAVE TO USE 90% VIRGIN.
SO THAT PERPETUATES THE PRODUCTION OF VIRGIN PLASTIC.
NO, BUT I'M SAYING IT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, INTERESTING, UH, YOU KNOW, TO REALLY FOLLOW UP BECAUSE WE'RE JUST, IF YOU COULD FIND OUT WHERE IT'S GOING, I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW A LOT OF THAT'S YOUR SPECIAL MISSION.
FIND OUT WHERE THE PLASTICS ARE GOING.
I SHOULD BE WORKING THAT RATHER THAN ALL OTHER THINGS.
TAKE YOUR BICYCLE AND YOU GO DOWN.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY HAVE CHANGED.
SO WHEN I, THE CAC TOWARD THE MURF, AND WE WERE TOLD THEY HAVE A RECYCLING RATE OF 90% OR SOME RIDICULOUSLY HIGH NUMBER, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONED THAT, NOT JUST THE CAC.
AND NOW WHEN YOU HEAR THEM SPEAK, THEY'RE VERY CAREFUL TO SAY, WE PROCESS 90% OF, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN WE DO OUR INTERNSHIP PROGRAM THIS SUMMER, WHY DON'T WE HAVE THE STUDENTS ORGANIZE A, A TRACK AND CAMPAIGN? AND, UM, AND THEN SEE WHAT HAPPENS NOW OF IT GETS DOWN CYCLED, WHICH HAS GOTTEN NO, I'M JUST CONFUSED WITH THE RECYCLING.
LET'S CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION ANOTHER TIME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS INFORMATION.
IF YOU FIND OUT WHAT HAPPENS TO IT, LET, I'LL GET BACK TO IT DOWN.
THIS IS TERRIBLE, BUT NO, BUT IT'S INTERESTING.
NO, I WAS WATCHING IT WHILE I WAS ON THE TREADMILL, SO, UH, UM, AND I SAID, WOW, THIS IS, IT'S HORRIFYING.
I MEAN IT'S, IT'S IN EVERYTHING.
PLASTICS ARE IN EVERYTHING THAT WE CONSUME IN OUR, IT'S IN OUR BRAINS.
IT'S IN BREAST MILK, IT'S IN, IT'S IN EVERYTHING.
NOW THAT I'M BUSY ON THE RECYCLING, I WON'T KEEP FOCUSING ON THE AGENDA.
WHAT IS THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR THE SOLAR DISTRICT OVERLAY? WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WE ALREADY PASSED THE TEXT AMENDMENT REGARDING SOLAR, BUT IN THE PROCESS WE LEFT OUT THAT ONCE YOU DO
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HAVE A REZONING, YOU HAVE TO CHANGE THE MAPOH, THE VETERAN'S BREAKFAST IS THURSDAY.
UH, IS EVERYBODY GOING? I'M GONNA TRY.
WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, IT LOOKS LIKE THEY TOOK OUT THE LATCH.
LISA, DIDN'T WE TELL YOU NOT TO LET HER IN? NO.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE PROBLEM? OKAY.
I STILL HAVE TO EXPLORE THE CONTINGENCY ISSUES ON THE, UH, BUDGET TRANSFERS, BUT I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO WORK IT OUT.
WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT? I'M SORRY.
I HELD IT OVER AT THE LAST MEETING.
DO YOU WANNA PUT IT ON FOR TWO WEEKS FROM NOW? NO, I THINK WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT BY TOMORROW.
IS THERE A CHANGE IN THE FIRE PROTECTION FOR ELMSFORD? EVERY YEAR? UM, THE, THE, UM, FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICTS RENEW THEIR CONTRACTS AND SO THIS IS THE, THE LATEST RENEWAL STANDARDIZED CONTRACT BASED ON ASSESSED VALUE.
SO SOMETIMES THE ASSESSED VALUES GO UP, THEY GO DOWN, THEY CHANGE.
BUT THAT'S, AND THE REASON WHY IT'S SET FOR THE FIRST MEETING IN JUNE IS THERE'S A LONGER NOTICE PERIOD IN THE PAPER FOR THEM.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING WHEN I LOOKED AT THIS BEFORE FOR THE A T THREE, THE, THE LAWSUIT WITH GNET, THAT WAS BASICALLY THEY WANTED SOME INFORMATION OR SOMETHING ABOUT SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES WAS THAT IT, THAT IS ACCURATE IN, UH, INFORMATION REGARDING POLICE OFFICERS.
AND, UM, THAT ISSUE IS STILL ONGOING.
THERE ARE RECENT COURT DECISIONS THAT WE'RE REVIEWING AND DETERMINING HOW TO DEFEND THAT SUIT.
SO, UM, WE REACHED A $25,000 LIMIT THAT YOU HAD ON THE LAST RESOLUTION, I BELIEVE PROBABLY FROM 2022, I WOULD GUESS.
SO WE'RE SEEKING AN ADDITIONAL 25,000 IN FUNDS TO CON CONTINUE TO DEFEND.
AND THE SPECIAL COUNSEL, KEN PICKOFF, UH, HAS DONE A VERY GOOD JOB BOTH IN THIS CASE AND OTHER CASES.
SO WE'RE CON RECOMMENDING WE CONTINUE TO USE HIM.
IS THERE LIKE ANY REASON WE CAN'T DO THAT IN HOUSE THIS CASE OR? WELL, IT, IT IS, UM, IT HAS BEEN ONGOING AND HE HAS BEEN HANDLING IT.
UM, I DON'T TYPICALLY RECOMMEND THAT YOU PULL SOMEONE WHO HAS DONE THE SATISFACTORY JOB DURING THE PROCESS, BUT I COULD ALSO SPEAK TO HIM.
WE NEED TO PICK OUR JULY AND AUGUST MEETINGS, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT NOW.
SO ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING OR? NO, I'M GOOD.
THE GAME ONE, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE THEY, UH, PLANNING TO DO? JUST IT, IT'S, I KNOW THERE'S A, PEOPLE ARE GETTING A LITTLE PANICKED OVER THE GAME ONE, ALL THEY'RE REALLY LOOKING TO DO IS TO PUT A NEW OVERHANG OVER WHERE THEY HIT THE BALLS ACTUALLY IN A, A SEPARATE LOCATION.
AND, UM, IT'S NO, NO MAJOR CONSTRUCTION.
IT'S SIMPLY MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ARE TEEING OFF.
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OKAY.GARRETT WILL FURTHER EXPLAIN IT TOMORROW NIGHT, I'M SURE.
UM, I HAD A QUESTION THAT I JUST REMEMBERED YESTERDAY.
UH, BILL SARI EMAILED ME SOME SUGGESTIONS ABOUT EAST TARTS DAILY AVENUE SAFETY, AND SOME OF THEM SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, GOOD IDEAS.
I SAY FOR CD FOUR, UH, RESOLUTION ISSUING A NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR SECRET DETER DETERMINATION, THE TOWN BOARD RELATING TO, UM, THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
WASN'T THAT THE, THE WHOLE STUDY BASED ON THE FUNDING THAT WE GOT FROM THE STATE? YEAH, THAT WAS, UM, THAT GARRETT PRESENTED MANY MONTHS AGO.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF, UH, SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS THAT WERE NOT, YOU KNOW, DO WE HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY TO ADD OR SUBTRACT THINGS DURING THE PROCESS OR DO YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE.
I WOULD SAY IF YOU WOULD FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO COMMISSIONER DECA GARRETT'S ON ZOOM.
IS GARRETT ON NOW? DID YOU FORWARD THEM TO GARRETT TO LOOK AT? YEP, HE'S COMING UP.
ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS THAT THEY COULD PUT PLANTERS ALONGSIDE THE SIDEWALK AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, BILL C'S I OH, I'M WONDERING GARRETT.
UM, YESTERDAY I EMAILED YOU, UH, BILL CCARE CAME UP WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS.
UM, HE'S THE HEAD OF THE PARKING AUTHORITY, UM, THAT HE THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY COULD MAKE THE AVENUE SAFER.
AND I'M WONDERING WITH THE GRANT, IF WE HAVE ANY FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE, UM, SOME SAFETY ADJUSTMENTS.
I, I, UM, RESPONDED TO THAT EMAIL AND I, I'M SENDING THE SUGGESTIONS TO THE CONSULTANT.
UM, WHAT'S
UM, THAT IS NOT THE END OF THE PROCESS.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION VERY DIRECTLY, UM, SUGGESTIONS LIKE THAT, UM, CAN CERTAINLY BE WORKED INTO THE FINAL DESIGN AND THE ACTION TOMORROW WOULD NOT PRECLUDE THAT.
SO, UM, WE APPRECIATE THAT SUGGESTION.
UM, I CREATED A GRAPHIC, SENT IT OFF TO OUR CONSULTANT AND, UM, SEE IF, UM, THEY HAVE ANY, UM, OPINION ON THAT.
AND, AND THAT COULD ALSO BE SOMETHING IF, IF, UM, IT'S DEEMED APPROPRIATE AND, YOU KNOW, WE CHECK IN WITH POLICE AND THEY LIKE IT.
UM, MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING WE CAN IMPLEMENT IN A SOONER TIMEFRAME.
WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO BILL ARI YESTERDAY, HE MENTIONED THAT THE PARK, AND I'VE BEEN GOING TO THE MEETINGS WITH THE PARKING AUTHORITY.
HE MENTIONED THAT PARKING AUTHORITY, UM, VOTED TO, UH, NAME, UH, ONE OF THE GARAGES, UM, FOR STEPHANIE CAIUS, AND THEY'RE GONNA HAVE A DEDICATION SOMETIME IN JUNE.
GARRETT, WAS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D WANT TO ADD TO THE GAME ON APPLICATION THAT I DIDN'T MENTION? UH, NO THANK, THANKS FOR WHAT YOU MENTIONED THERE.
UM, IT IS REALLY JUST TO ENHANCE THE EXPERIENCE FOR THOSE GOLFERS.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SIMILAR SETUPS DOWN THE LINE.
UM, BUT BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO DO SO MANY, UM, ADDITIONAL ENCLOSURES, WE FELT THAT IT WAS BEST AND MOST TRANSPARENT TO, UH, RUN THAT THROUGH THE SITE PLAN PROCESS.
BUT YES, IT'S INDEED CONFINED TO THE TEE OFF AREAS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST ALLOWING FOR A BETTER EXPERIENCE AND ENCLOSURE IN COLDER WEATHER AND AND WHATNOT.
SO, UM, IT DOES REQUIRE A VARIANCE IN REGARDS TO HEIGHT.
SO TOWN BOARD APPROVAL ON SITE PLAN AND, UM, ZBI WILL SEE IT AS WELL.
SO WE'LL INVOLVE THE PUBLIC IN THAT.
I I SEE THERE'S A FEW THINGS ABOUT, UM, THE DELL HOUSE, UM, THE AMAZED DESIGNED FOR SUPPLEMENTAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN SERVICES.
SO, UM, THIS, THIS, THIS REALLY AROSE AS PART OF AN OPPORTUNITY AS WE, WE REALLY IN THE PROCESS, UM, AM MAZE IS A FIRM THAT WAS ENGAGED BY THE FRIENDS OF, UH, TO DO SOME ADVANCED MUSEUM PLANNING AND, UM, WHICH IS WONDERFUL.
UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO ENGAGE THEM AT THEIR, THEIR, THEIR EXPENSE.
UM, AND AS A MAZE WAS INTERACTING WITH, WITH THE TOWNS CONSULTANT, STA, UH, IT BECAME APPARENT THAT SOME ADVANCED MUSEUM PLANNING, UM, MADE A LOT OF SENSE.
AND, UH, A MAZE HAS EXPERTISE IN LIGHTING AND AUDIO VISUAL.
UM, SO WE, WE TOOK THIS PROPOSAL TO STEVE TILLY ARCHITECTS MADE SURE THAT THERE WAS, UM, NO REDUNDANT SERVICES BEING OFFERED.
WE WERE, UM, ASSURED THAT, THAT THESE WOULD, THESE ARE NOT REDUNDANT SERVICES.
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AND UM, AND ACTUALLY AS PART OF THE, UH, SAM GRANT THAT THAT'S PARTIALLY FUNDING THE OVERALL, UH, PROJECT, UH, THIS $19,000, 500, $19,500 SERVICE, UH, WOULD BE FULLY REFUNDED THROUGH THE SAM GRANT.SO, UM, THESE ARE DESIGNS THAT WILL ACTUALLY TAKE THE, UH, MUSEUM PLANNING TO THE NEXT LEVEL AND, AND, UH, THINK BE BENEFICIAL IN THE LONG RUN.
UM, I WAS SPEAKING TO SUSAN SEAL, UH, YOU KNOW, TODAY, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS MORNING.
AND ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS SHE HAS WAS, UM, FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO LET, UH, THE FRIENDS OF THE ODELL FORM LIKE ANOTHER COMMITTEE, UH, THAT WOULD BASICALLY, SHE BASICALLY FEELS THAT THE TOWN SHOULD HAVE A CONTRACT WITH, UM, WITH THE FRIENDS WHERE BASICALLY WE WOULD BE, ONCE THE MUSEUM IS CREATED, WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LIKE THE LANDSCAPING AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL BUILDING MAINTENANCE.
BUT THERE'D BE A SEPARATE BOARD THAT WOULD OPERATE THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS OF THE MUSEUM.
SO THE TOWN BOARD WOULD NOT BE INVOLVED IN THE, THE, THE DETAILS RELATING TO THE MUSEUM, BUT SHE HAS TO CHANGE THE NOT-FOR-PROFIT STATUS AS THE BOARD WOULD GO ALONG WITH IT.
I THINK THAT SORT OF MAKES SENSE.
LET'S PUT IT ON AN AGENDA, FUTURE AGENDA SO WE CAN DISCUSS IT.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I SUGGESTED.
I THINK IT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEY KNOW MORE ABOUT MUSEUM PLANNING THAN WE DO.
ANYTHING ELSE, PAUL? LET'S SEE.
PAUL, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION, MAKE A MOTION, UH, TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF, UH, DEALING WITH, UH, PERSONNEL MATTERS, UM, INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS SEEK LEGAL ADVICE RIGHT.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE COULD HAVE SAID THAT WOULD GIVE PEOPLE A HINT WHILE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
I THINK THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE MOTION.