* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] IN PROGRESS THAT'S [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1500 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: JDudek@Greenburghny.com https://ny-greenburgh.civicplus.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings] LOW. OKAY. UH, SO WELCOME TARA TOWN BOARD, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK SESSIONS. TODAY IS JUNE 4TH, UM, AND IT'S AFTER FIVE 15. AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE CAPITAL BUDGET. OKAY. SO EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE IN FRONT OF THEM A DRAFT CAPITAL BUDGET. AND I HAVE MY READING MAGNIFYING GLASSES SO I CAN READ, NOT TAKE MY GLASSES. ALSO, I, SORRY, , SOME OF US DON'T NEED THEM. I, I EMAILED, DON'T NEED GLASSES. I EMAILED, UM, UH, THE POLICE CHIEF AND ASKED THEM IF THEY COULD ADD THE TWO, UH, UH, RED LIGHT CAMERAS, YOU KNOW, UH, TO THE BUDGET. SO THEY'RE GETTING ESTIMATES AS TO THE COST BECAUSE IT PASSED THE STATE LEGISLATURE YES. GOT THE EMAIL. RIGHT. RIGHT. IT DID. BUT IT NOW HAS TO GO TO THE GOVERNOR FOR SIGNATURE, AND SHE HAS UNTIL DECEMBER 31ST TO SIGN IT. RIGHT. BUT I'M JUST THINKING THAT FOR BUDGET PURPOSES. ABSOLUTELY. FOR PURPOSES, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY FOR ANYONE WHO IS LISTENING IN. YEAH. SO I'M SAYING IF THEY DON'T HAVE LIKE A REGULAR ESTIMATE, WE COULD JUST THROW IN A NUMBER AND THEN JUROR, WHILE THEY'RE DOING THE THROW IN A NUMBER IN HERE, YOU, YOU COULD THROW IN A NUMBER, UM, LIKE PLACE, PLACE SET WHILE THEY'RE DOING THE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT BY FRI, IF THEY DON'T HAVE IT BY FRIDAY, AND THEN WE COULD ALWAYS, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MODIFY IT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, AFTER THEY, THEY SAID THEY'RE DOING RESEARCH RIGHT NOW. OH, OKAY. WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT ON FRIDAY. DOES THAT SOUND GOOD? PROBABLY SHOULD. I DON'T THINK, THIS DOESN'T SOUND LIKE, BECAUSE IF THE GO'S NOT GONNA BE ON THE GOVERNOR'S DESK, SHE UP TO THE END OF THE YEAR. I DUNNO HOW TO THAT. WELL, YOU NEVER KNOW WITH THE GOVERNOR. THE GOVERNOR MAY ONE THIS QUICKLY FOR ME. SURE. DON'T DON I DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE TO SEE ME PUTTING THE PAPER TO MY EYES. SORRY. I DON'T, I DON'T, CAN YOU HEAR ME? SURE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. SO JUST AN OVERVIEW. NO, NO. YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE NEXT TIME, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY DO IT ON EXECUTIVE PAPER SO IT'LL BE BIGGER. SO I ACTUALLY DIDN'T PRINT IT. I JUST EMAILED IT OUT, BUT, OH, OKAY. I'M NOT SURE WHO MADE THE, BUT I WILL, WE'RE JUST GIVING YOU A HARD TIME, SO GO, JUST RELAX TIME. YOU MAKE THE COPIES , BUT I'LL LET SOME, YOU COULD DO IT BY 11 BY 17. LARGER PAPER WASN'T IN THE BUDGET FOR THIS PAST YEAR, SO OH, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA SPEAK TO THE CONTROLLER. WOW. OKAY. YEAH. WE'LL WORK ON IT TODAY. YEAH, YOU'RE ONLY GETTING A NEW PAD, RIGHT? YOU'RE LUCKY IF YOU GET THAT. EXACTLY. OKAY. SO JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE DRAFT. I TOOK ALL OF THE PRESENTATIONS AND PUT THEM TOGETHER BY ASSET CLASSIFICATION, UM, WHICH IS THE FIRST COLUMN WITH A DESCRIPTION. UH, SECOND COLUMN IS USEFUL LIFE OF THE ASSETS AND THEN THE FUNDING SOURCE. AND THEN YOU'LL SEE OVER TO THE FAR RIGHT WHERE THE PROPOSED FUNDING IS, UM, A LIST OF WHETHER IT'S BONDED, OTHER FINANCING, OTHER SOURCES OR GRANTS. MOST OF OUR STUFF IS BONDED, SO YOU'LL SEE A TOTAL AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT AND ALL THE DEBT. SO THE FIRST ROUND WAS WHAT WAS PRESENTED, UH, THE WISHLIST. AND THEN SECOND WAS A MEETING I HAD WITH THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, AND WE DID HAVE A COUPLE OF CUTS THERE. AND THEN THE NEXT LIST WOULD BE, UM, THE BOARD ADJUSTMENTS AND THE PROPOSED BY THE BOARD. I CUT, YOU MEAN DEFER TO A FUTURE YEAR, RIGHT. I MEAN, DEFERRED TO 2025. THERE WASN'T ANYTHING THAT WE ACTUALLY CUT OUT. AND THE AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE AWARE OF IT. YEAH. YES, THEY ARE. YES. WE, WE MET WITH THEM. OKAY. I THINK IT WAS JUST, IT WAS A, I DON'T, RICH AND GARRETT THAT CAME IN AND, OKAY. YEP. BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA START NEXT. I MEAN, THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR 2025 WILL BE RELEASED OCTOBER, THE PROPOSED ONE AND WILL BE ADOPTED BY THE END OF THE YEAR. BUT IN EFFECT, UH, THIS BUDGET, WE'RE BASICALLY JUST BREAKING IT UP. SO I THINK WE PUT IN ABOUT $19 MILLION, UM, FOR 2024. AND MY RECOLLECTION, IT WAS SOMEWHERE LIKE 13 MILLION OR SO FOR 2025. BUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP IT TO LIKE A $19 MILLION, YOU KNOW, RANGE. SO EACH YEAR, SO IT DID GO UP, IT'S 25 MILLION BECAUSE I HAD TO ADD IT, BUT THEN THE LONG TERM, UM, BONDING WAS 17 MILLION. AND I DID REQUEST AN AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE OF THAT SO THAT THE BOARD COULD SEE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LEVEL DEBT WOULD BE APPROXIMATELY, UH, 1,000,245 A YEAR. AND I HAVE THOSE SCHEDULES HERE FOR 20 YEARS. FOR 20 YEARS. YES. MM-HMM, . AND YOU HAD ASKED ME, PAUL, ABOUT, UM, THE INCREASE IN THE TAX RATE, AND I HAVE THAT FOR YOU THERE. SO PAUL, YOU'RE DEFERRING $1.5 MILLION OF DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS. UM, YOU KNOW, WE SPOKE TO RICH AND HE BASICALLY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON HIS ABILITY OF, UH, THE DEPARTMENT'S ABILITY TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT IT [00:05:01] THIS YEAR. THAT, SO IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE REALLY DEFERRING IT, IT'S BASICALLY THAT THEY WOULDN'T GET AROUND TO A LOT OF THIS, THE THINGS THAT ARE BEING DEFERRED. SO THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS YEAR'S, BUD, UH, CAPITAL BUDGET YEAR IS IMPROVEMENTS. THE BY TIME THE BUDGET IS, WE GET THE MONEY, THE YEAR IS ALMOST OVER. WELL, THAT SO WILL BE TRUE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE, RIGHT? FOR NEXT YEAR. THIS WILL BE IN THE OCTOBER BUDGET FOR NEXT YEAR, RIGHT. THERE'S NO HEMORRHAGE, NO PART OF IT. THAT CAN BE DONE SOONER. WE, WE COULD, WE COULD ADD I COULD, I HAVE NO PRO, YOU KNOW, NO PROBLEMS WITH IT. YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, I MEAN, REMEMBER WE, UM, YOU KNOW, HIS DEPARTMENT, UH, HAS HAD A PROBLEM IN TERMS OF LACKING ENGINEERS. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF, THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BASICALLY SHORTHAND. THEY'RE SHORTHANDED AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ONLY A CERTAIN AMOUNT THAT THEY COULD REALLY DO. I WANT, HE SHOULD BE HERE. I MEAN, RIGHT NOW YOU, YOU JUST, UH, THE, UH, SEWER LEAK, SEWER PIPE LEAK ON EAST DALE AVENUE, JUST THAT'S TAKING A LOT OF TIME. YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE, YOU CAN'T DO EVERYTHING AT ONCE. I JUST, I GET CONCERNED. I GET CONCERNED BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WHEN THE FUNDING IS PROVIDED TO HIM, THEN YOU KNOW, HE HAS TO GO OUT TO BID OR HE HAS TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, HE'S SECURE, UM, THE VENDORS TO DO THE WORK. IT'S NOT THAT THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO DO THE WORK. SO I KNOW WE'VE BEEN TALKING, WE'VE BEEN SAYING THAT, MAKING THAT STATEMENT FOR A COUPLE YEARS NOW, AND THAT'S JUST NOT WHAT IS BEEN COMMUNICATED TO ME. AND WHICH IS WHY HOPEFULLY HE CAN COME IN HERE AND JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAN ON WHAT WE, WHAT WE CAN DEFER. WE CAN'T DEFER AND IT CAN'T BE, I MEAN, DRAINAGE IS WHATEVER ALL THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE GOING ON. I'M SURPRISED THAT WE WOULD EVEN DEFER THAT. WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE SPOKE TO HIM YESTERDAY. NO, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. NO, I, SO I THINK NOT US. SO I MET WITH, UM, BOND COUNSEL. I ALSO MET WITH THE CAPITAL ADVISORS AND WE DISCUSSED TIMETABLES. WE LOOKED AT THE DEBT SERVICE, AND THEN I ALSO MET WITH RICH. AND I THINK THE UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE A SECOND BONDING IN THE FALL AND THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO CLOSE THAT OUT BEFORE THE, THE END OF THE YEAR. HE'S RIGHT HERE. AND SO AS LONG AS WE COULD KEEP THAT COMMITMENT, UM, HE WAS OKAY WITH THAT. THE OTHER, OTHER, SO RICH, JUST SAY YES, RICH, YOU SHOULD ALWAYS SAY YES. SO, UM, PAUL WAS JUST GOING, WE WERE GOING OVER THE BUDGET. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT COULD POSSIBLY BE DEFERRED TO LA TO NEXT YEAR. YEP. MY CONCERN IS THAT YOU AND I HAVE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE. WE'LL TALK, THERE'S A DRAINAGE ISSUE. THERE'S A DRAINAGE LINE IN HERE THAT'S BEING DEFERRED TO 2025. YES. SO CONCERN HERE. SO I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU. YOU, THE WHOLE LINE, THE WHOLE, THE ENTIRE AMOUNT, EVERYTHING. WE HAVE MONEY RIGHT NOW. SO YOU GOTTA REMEMBER LAST YEAR'S CAPITAL WAS DONE VERY LATE. AH, OKAY. SO THERE WAS A TIME WHERE WE DIDN'T HAVE FUNDING. WE NOW HAVE FUNDING IN PLACE TO DO THE WORK WE NEED TO DO NOW. OKAY. HOW MUCH? $2 MILLION. OKAY. SO THERE SHOULD BE AN ASTERISK ON THIS BECAUSE WHEN THE PUBLIC SEES THIS AND WE'RE DEFERRING DRAINAGE. YEAH, THERE SHOULD BE AN EXPLANATION OF THAT. THERE NEEDS TO BE AN EXPLANATION. WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A NARRATIVE, THE CAPITAL BUDGET, WHEN IT'S RELEASED, MAYBE, MAYBE IT'S ANOTHER COLUMN. KIMBERLY HAVE TO SEARCH FOR THE INFORMATION. KIMBERLY. YEAH. MAYBE IT'S ANOTHER COLUMN FOR FUNDS, ALLOCATED FUNDS THAT HAVE NOT YET SPENT, THAT ARE GOING TO BE SPENT IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR. THERE ACTUALLY IS ANOTHER COLUMN. IT'S NOT PRINTED. IT SAYS COMPTROLLER'S COMMENTS. AND THAT WOULD BE IN THERE. OH, OKAY. PAPER PROBABLY WOULD'VE WORKED. OKAY. YEAH. 11 BY 17. WE NEED TO SEE THAT BECAUSE THIS IS MISLEADING. OKAY. OKAY. SO ALL, ALL THE ITEMS FOR US, AND WE WORK CLOSELY WITH KIMBERLY. SHE SAID SHE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THESE FUNDS FAST. SO RIGHT IN, I THINK AT THE NEXT, NOT THE UPCOMING MEETING, BUT THE MEETING AFTER THAT WHERE WE BE COMING TO THE BOARD TO CONTINUE THE CONTRACT WITH THE TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH MONTESANO. THAT'S GONNA BE FOR $3 MILLION OF PAVING WORK. WE'RE GONNA BE GOING BACK OUT TO BID FOR CURB WORK. THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER TWO YEAR CONTRACT. SO WE HAVE $2 MILLION FOR THAT. OKAY. WE HAVE $2 MILLION IN THE DRAINAGE LINE. AGAIN, THESE FUNDS CAME VERY LATE LAST YEAR, SO WE'RE NOW KIND OF PLAYING CATCH UP. WHAT WE SAT AND DISCUSSED WITH KIMBERLY IS HOW THE TIMELINE OF WHEN WE'D BE GETTING THESE FUNDS SO THAT THE NEXT SEASON WE'RE READY TO GO OUTTA THE GATE. THAT'S OKAY. THAT'S EXCELLENT. AND KIMBERLY AND I, THAT'S WHAT I NEEDED TO HEAR. KIMBERLY AND I DISCUSSED YESTERDAY, UM, TRYING TO CREATE, UH, WORK PLANS FOR EACH OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET, YOU KNOW, SUBMISSIONS, WHICH KIMBERLY SUGGESTED WE DO IT AFTER THE BUDGET IS FINALIZED. SO THIS WAY WE HAVE, AND THIS WAY WE COULD TELL THE BOARD THIS IS, YOU KNOW, EACH OF THESE ITEMS, THIS IS BASICALLY HOW WE'RE GONNA BE TRACKING WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING WHAT WE SAY WE WE'RE DOING. BECAUSE I THINK THE PROBLEM IN THE PAST IS WE DO THESE BUDGETS AND THEN WE DON'T, AND THEN IT'S HARD TO SEE IF WE'RE ON TRACK. MM-HMM. . OKAY. GOOD. [00:10:01] EXCELLENT. THANK YOU. RECORD TO WHY WE'RE NOT ON TRACK. SO AGAIN, I, I DON'T WANNA GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT WE DON'T MON MONIES IS GIVEN TO, HOLD ON, RICH, LET ME JUST FINISH. MONIES ARE GIVEN TO YOU AS BASED ON WHAT YOU REQUEST, AND YOU'RE NOT USING THEM, BUT YOU'RE NOT USING THEM FOR REASONS. SO IT'S NOT THE FACT THAT WE JUST, YOU'RE REQUESTING THIS MONEY JUST, JUST TO BE REQUESTED. NO. AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA USE THE MONEY. SO WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT. AND THE USER, USUALLY THE REASON IS BEYOND OUR CONTROL. LIKE NEEDING APPROVALS FROM D-E-P-D-E-C, CORRECT. FEMA, YES. SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL OF ALL THE ABOVE. BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT, SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT STUFF, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR. SO THE, SO IN THIS PLAN, JUST TO ADD TO THAT, IN THE PLAN THAT YOU PROVIDE, YOU'LL NOTE THAT WE'LL DETAIL THAT INFORMATION. RIGHT. AND I'LL GIVE YOU A FEW EXAMPLES. LIKE, WE WENT OUT TO BID FOR A WATER STORAGE TANK RIGHT AFTER COVID. IT CAME IN AT $8 MILLION. MM-HMM. . THAT WAS MUCH MORE THAN WE HAD EXPECTED. WE'RE QUITE CONFIDENT. THAT'S 'CAUSE STEEL WAS A VERY ELEVATED, SO WE DIDN'T SPEND THAT MONEY 'CAUSE WE WOULD'VE NOT BEEN RESPONSIBLE TO DO SUCH AT THAT TIME. MM-HMM. . WE HAVE, UH, A DEC MANDATE UP AT OUR TAXI ROAD TRANSFER FACILITY WHERE WE'VE BEEN WAITING THREE YEARS FOR THE DEC ON A VARIANCE. WE'RE STILL WAITING. UM, WE HAD THE WALL DOWN AT THE GARAGE, ANOTHER SITUATION RIGHT OUT THE COVID WHERE EVERYTHING WAS ELEVATED. THE, THE, UH, ESTIMATE CAME IN AT I THINK TWICE WHAT THE ENGINEER, THE OUTSIDE ENGINEER HAD ESTIMATED. MM-HMM. . SO THOSE FUNDS ARE STILL SITTING THERE. THOSE, SO THE ELEVATION YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS THE PRICING COST. CORRECT. COST. YEAH. THE MONEY, LIKE FOR DRAINAGE, WE SPENT IT ALL PAVING. WE SPENT IT CURBING. WE SPEND IT. THE THINGS WE CAN DO, WE WILL DO. I'LL GIVE YOU, FOR INSTANCE, TODAY OUR MAINTENANCE DEPARTMENT, ANTHONY GRAVES, CAME IN AND GAVE ME WONDERFUL NEWS THAT TWO OF OUR COMPRESSORS ON THIS ROOF DIED TODAY. OH GREAT. SO NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. AND THAT'S THE DOWNSTAIRS LEVEL. YEP. UPSTAIRS IS GONNA BE COOL. , MY OFFICE IS LIKE A HUNDRED DEGREES. WELL, AGAIN, NOW WE'RE GOING TO THE PROCESS OF GETTING EMERGENCY BID NUMBERS OKAY. TO GO AND DO THAT. AND THAT'S A SURPRISE. WE WEREN'T PLANNING FOR THAT. BUT THESE THINGS HAPPEN. BUT EVERY DAY, IS THERE ANY CHANCE THAT WE WILL ACTUALLY GET THE SYSTEM TO WORK? I MEAN, BECAUSE SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD, THIS IS DOWN, WE'RE GOTTA REPLACE IT, WE'RE GONNA REPLACE ARE WE JUST GETTING LEGACY EQUIPMENT OR WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE THAT WE'RE CONSTANTLY TRYING TO KEEP THIS BUILDING AND OTHER BUILDINGS WORKING, EVEN THOUGH WE KEEP REPLACING, THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON HERE. YEAH, IT'S, AND I'LL SAY WE'VE BEEN USING A VERY GOOD ENGINEER, OLA, UM, THEY'VE REALLY COME IN AND ANALYZED EVERYTHING. UH, I THINK WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF IMPROVEMENTS OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. LAST FEW YEARS. UM, MAYBE IN THE PAST WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN CHANGING THINGS UP A LITTLE BIT. WE HAVE, UM, BUT WE HAVE A LOT OF EQUIPMENT. AND YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THIS BUILDING'S 25, 30 YEARS OLD AND BACK WHEN THEY BUILT IT, IT WAS HIGH TECH. NOW ALL THIS STUFF IS STARTING TO GO. SO WE'VE, WE DON'T COME IN AND REPLACE THE ENTIRE SYSTEM. WE'RE DOING BITS AND PIECES AT A TIME. SO WE JUST DID PART THIS YEAR. WE'RE TWEAKING OUT SOME OF THE PROBLEMS THERE. UM, BUT THERE'S STILL A LOT, A LOT OF MORE MOVING PARTS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. SO T-D-Y-C-C, WE DID THE BOILER. THANK YOU. ON THE FIRST FLOOR. WE NOW HAVE TO DO THE BOILER ON THE SECOND FLOOR. BUT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THEY HAVE 16 SEPARATE UNITS IN THAT FACILITY. JUST 'CAUSE IT'S, THERE'S BEEN SO MANY ADDITIONS AND ALTERATIONS. SO WE DON'T COME IN AND ASK FOR $50 MILLION TO REPLACE EVERYTHING. BUT IT IS, A LOT OF THIS EQUIPMENT IS STARTING TO PHASE OUT. IT'S LIKE COMPUTERS, RIGHT? YOU DON'T WANT TO REPLACE 'EM ALL IN ONE YEAR. SO THEY DO A LITTLE BIT EACH YEAR SO THAT THEY'RE NOT ALL GETTING REPLACED AT ONCE WITH, SO YOU HAVE A MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE FOR ALL OF THIS EQUIPMENT. THEN AS PER GINA'S REQUEST, LAST YEAR WE WENT TO OLA, WE GOT A STUDY DONE OF ALL THE BUILDINGS, WE NOW HAVE A, A SCHEDULE THAT WE'RE GONNA BE WORKING. SO SPEAKING OF T-D-Y-C-C, GINA, SORRY, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON , SPEAKING OF TDYC AND THE PROBLEM THAT THEY'RE HAVING, ESPECIALLY WHERE THE SENIORS CONGREGATE TODAY, IT WAS VERY HOT. SO, UM, I TEXTED YOU, CAN YOU JUST UPGRADE FOR SYDNEY AND THE OTHERS, THERE IS SOME ELECTRICAL WORK THAT NEEDS TO GET DONE AND THAT'S IN THE PROCESS NOW. DO YOU HAVE ANY TIMING ON THAT? ANTHONY'S CALLING UP THE SUBCONTRACTOR TOMORROW. HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE AN UPDATE. OKAY. AND AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE COURT LAST YEAR WITH THE, THE PROBLEM WITH GETTING THE CHILLER, NOW WE HAVE PARKS AND REC, WE HAVE THE CENTER. THIS THINGS ARE JUST, IT'S LIKE EVERYTHING'S GOING AT ONCE. I HAD A QUESTION JUST ABOUT BACO. UH, I'M JUST, I FORGOT. UH, I SPOKE [00:15:01] TO SPEAK TO, UH, THE, SOMEBODY FROM FEMA TODAY AND HE SAID THAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE CONTRACT, UH, UH, TO US BY NEXT WEEK. AND THEN RICH AND JOE WILL AND THE BOARD WILL REVIEW THE CONTRACT AND THEN WE CAN START WHAT? WHICH CONTRACT? THE CONTRACT TO UPLIFT THE HOMES ON BA COURT. OKAY. OKAY. UM, UH, IN TERMS OF THE CAPITAL, DON'T WE HAVE TO UPFRONT, YOU KNOW, MONEY FOR BABBITT, THERE WAS MONEY PUT INTO THE OPERATIONAL BUDGET, I BELIEVE. 'CAUSE IT IS PRIVATE PROPERTY IMPROVEMENTS. THE TOWN IS MANAGING THE PROJECT. ONCE WE GET THE DOCUMENTATION FROM FEMA, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SIT DOWN WITH, UH, WITH COUNSELOR AND GO THROUGH IT AND SEE HOW WE PUT OUT AN RFP. 'CAUSE THIS IS WORK THAT'S GONNA BE DONE BY AN OUTSIDE CONSULT. RIGHT. HUMAN COUNSEL, FLOOD OF WORK. CAN, WOULD YOU JUST, JUST, YOU'RE LIKE A COUNSELOR. JUST A QUICK THING. WHEN YOU MENTION WHEN YOU USE, UM, ACRONYMS FOR THE DIFFERENT THINGS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY EXPLAIN THEM, BUT IT'S FEMA IS FEDERAL. DEC IS STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION. NO. IS THAT BUT JUST TO, TO INDICATE YES. WHICH NEW YORK STATE LEVEL OF GOVERNMENT, IF YOU COULD CLARIFY THAT. BECAUSE FOR ANYBODY LISTENING SO THAT THEY KNOW THAT IT'S NOT IS WITHIN OUR CONTROL. THAT'S ALL. AND I THINK EVEN AFTER THE COVID THEY, YOU KNOW, KIND OF SWITCHED UP THE WAY THEY'RE DOING WORK. SO YEAH, NEW YORK STATE, DOT, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION RIGHT. IS VERY BACKED UP. SO, SO WHAT IS THIS CONTRACT FOR? BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE BILL CONSTRUCTION PLANS AND THAT YOU, YOU BEAT ME TO THE PUNCH. 'CAUSE THAT, SO WHAT IS THE CONTRACT? CONTRACT? WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS. THIS IS JUST FEMA TELLING US THAT THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US THE GRANT. NOW WE HAVE TO GO OUT FOR AN RFP REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR AN ENGINEER TO COME IN AND MANAGE THIS PROJECT. I NOT SAY MANAGE PROJECT THERE. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA NEED LAND SURVEYS. MM-HMM. . YOU NEED ELEVATIONS OF ALL THESE HOMES. YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DESIGN THESE FOUNDATIONS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID. BUT WITH ALL THAT, HOW, WHAT'S THE PROCESS TIME LIKE? 'CAUSE I THINK THAT YOU WANNA WEIGH IN ON THIS THOUGH, FRANK. YOU WANNA COME UP? WE HAVE A BUILDING INSPECTOR WHO IS UH, IF YOU WANNA COME AND SIT AT THE TABLE, IT ISN'T OUR RESPONSIBLY TO ADMINISTRATE ONLY. YES. BUT THAT'S, BUT THAT'S CLARIFICATION, WHICH IS THE DIRECTION WE'RE REGARDING THIS IS YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED. IT'S WHAT'S IMPORTANT. WHAT'S IMPORTANT. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, UPLIFTING THESE HOMES, UPLIFTING THESE HOMES, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS. SO NOW CHECK, THANK GOD FINALLY THAT WE RECEIVED THE GRANT FROM FEMA, BUT THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER PROCESS THAT WE ALSO NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED. SO I DON'T WANNA GIVE, I DON'T WANNA GIVE THE IMPRESSION THAT NOW EVERYTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN TOMORROW BECAUSE THAT IS NOT THE CASE. SO IF YOU COULD JUST BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT PROCESS WILL LOOK LIKE. SO WE WERE WAITING ON AN OUTSIDE AGENCY, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO GIVE US THIS GRANT. NOW, ONCE WE GET THIS FEMA, FEMA MM-HMM. . NOW IT'S GONNA BE IN OUR COURT. SO NOW THE HARD WORK COMES TO US. MM-HMM. . SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT TOGETHER A DOCUMENT. MM-HMM. . AND I'M SURE DICK GARRETT KAIN THE COMMISSIONER, PLANNING'S GONNA BE HELPING, I'M SURE JOE DANKO AND AMANDA ARE GONNA BE INVOLVED WITH THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. MM-HMM. , WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT OUT A DOCUMENT REQUESTING PROPOSALS MM-HMM. TO COVER THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT THIS GRANT IS GOING TO BE OUTLINING. OKAY. AND THAT PROCESS, AND IT'S INVOLVED AND IT'S LONG. OKAY. I HONESTLY THINK IT'S A MULTI-YEAR PROJECT. HAVE WE OH. UM, PASSED THE COST BENEFIT HURDLE WITH THIS. YES. BUT NOW WE'RE GONNA, AT SOME POINT WE'RE GONNA BE GOING OUT TO BID. AND DEPENDING ON WHAT KIND OF NUMBERS WE SEE, AGAIN, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE TO SEE THE DOCUMENT. AND THERE'S, FEMA MAY STILL PULL BACK. I DON'T KNOW. WELL, THERE'S ONE OTHER PIECE TO YEAH, THERE IS. I MEAN, PROB I WOULD SAY THAT'S A POSSIBILITY. IF THE COST OUTWEIGH THE COST, COST OUTWEIGHS THE BENEFIT. RIGHT. RIGHT. I MEAN, OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO REACH OUT AND SEE WHO ANSWERS THE R FP BE VERY UPFRONT WITH THE PUBLIC THAT THAT RIGHT. AND, AND ALSO, AND GETTING A GRANT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN EVERYTHING IS GREAT. RIGHT. RIGHT. THAT'S WHY IT'S CLEAR THAT, THAT'S WHY I'M STRESSING THIS, THAT SHE WITH FULLY TRANSPARENT AND WE'RE WITH FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IT'S BEYOND OUR CONTROL. RIGHT. AND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE WHEN THE OTHER HOMES WERE RAISED ON BABBITT COURT, IS THE TOWN HAS TO MANAGE THE PRO, PRO, UH, PROJECT. WE GET REIMBURSED BY THE HOMEOWNERS. SO IT'S NOT A MUNICIPALITY EXPENDING PUBLIC MONEY FOR PRIVATE PURPOSES. HOWEVER, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS REQUIRING US TO PUT IT OUT INITIALLY 'CAUSE THE HOMEOWNERS CAN'T AFFORD THIS KIND OF THING. RIGHT. AND THEN WE GET REIMBURSED LATER. BUT IT'S, IT'S A PROCESS. [00:20:01] AND, UM, WE ARE AT THE MERCY WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHY AREN'T SOME OF THE CAPITAL FUNDS SPENT, WE'RE AT THE MERCY OF THESE APPROVING AGENCIES TO GIVE US APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY USE THE MONEY. RIGHT. AND I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IT'S A 90%, 10% MATCH. SO IT'S FEMA IS, IS PAYING FOR 90% IN THIS CASE AND THE HOMEOWNER HAS TO PAY 10% OF THE COST. WASN'T THAT THE, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE CASE AGAIN, BRIAN SIMMONS, WHO RIGHT. THE HARD LIFT TO . NO, WE NEED HIS INPUT. LIKE WE, WE, WE NEED TO TAP INTO HIM. RIGHT. BECAUSE HE HAS LOT BUT KNOWLEDGE. BUT THE LAST, THE LAST GO ROUND, MANY YEARS AGO IT WAS I THINK A 75, 20 5% MATCH, WHICH WAS A, A BRIDGE TOO FAR AS IT WERE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS. HOPEFULLY THE COST WON'T BE SO MUCH. BUT IT ALSO GOING BACK TO, UM, THE FACT THAT MAYBE THAT IT ISN'T A COST BENEFIT, UM, WITH A 90%, UM, DONATION, DONATION, UH, GRANT FROM, FROM FEMA, THAT'S A GREATER AMOUNT OF MONEY TOO. MM-HMM. . OKAY. AND THE REASON WHY FEMA, ACCORDING TO FEMA WENT TO THIS MODEL WHERE THE MUNICIPALITY HAS TO DO THE HEAVY LIFTING, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MONEY THEY GIVE US IS ACTUALLY USED FOR RAISING THE HOUSES AND NOT FOR SOMETHING ELSE. SELL THE HOUSE AND LEAVE. RIGHT. SO THIS IS THEIR INSURANCE POLICY BASICALLY. MM-HMM. . BUT IT'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF WORK. RIGHT. ON DPW BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND EVERYBODY ELSE. MM-HMM. . OKAY. I APPRECIATE THAT. WELL SAID. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT. IN TERMS OF, UH, YOU, THE WATER DEPARTMENT, UM, WHEN I WAS AT THE UH, HUNDRED EAST TODAY, YOU KNOW, THEY MENTIONED THAT IT WAS GONNA BE, IT COULD BE A FEW MONTHS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE WORK IS, YOU KNOW, COMPLETED. UM, AND I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IN TERMS OF LIKE THE BUDGETS, YOU KNOW, THE WATER, YOU KNOW, BUDGET, WHEN WE HAVE MAJOR LEAKS LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, UM, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE'RE FACTORED IN WHEN WE DO THE CAPITAL BUDGETS? SO THIS IS A SEWER LINE, UM, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. BUT, UM, THIS PAST WEEK WE DID WORK WITH KIMBERLY AND OUR CONSULTANT ON THEIR BUDGET. AND I THINK WE'RE IN A PRETTY GOOD PLACE. YES. SO THESE THINGS ARE CONSIDERED, THAT'S WHY YOU KEEP THAT, THAT BUFFER IN THERE. SO YOU START THERE, THERE'S A MAJOR UNDERTAKING. IT'S GOING TO, UM, BE CONSIDERABLY EXPENSIVE. THE AMOUNT OF WORK THAT'S GOING OUT THERE IS FIRST OF ALL VERY HIGH QUALITY, UH, TO DO SOMETHING SO QUICKLY AND SO EFFECTIVELY. BUT THERE'S, THERE'S GOING TO BE CONSIDERABLY INCONVENIENCE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, SOME TREES HAVE TO COME DOWN THERE, THERE HAS TO BE, UH, A DRAINING OF PIPE THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE DRAINABLE AT THIS POINT. UH, NO MATTER HOW MUCH THEY TRY AND PUMP IT OUT. AND SO, UH, WITH THE REPAIR WEAR TOO REPAIR TO THE, WELL WE, WE FIRST HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S WRONG. RIGHT. THEY'RE MAKING PROGRESS. BUT LIKE FRANCIS SAID, I WOULD AVOID EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE IF YOU DON'T NEED TO BE THERE. RIGHT. EXCEPT IF YOU LIVE THERE, , YOU DON'T HAVE A, YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE. BUT IT WAS A FULL COURT PRESS. THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS OUT THERE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS OUT THERE ON FRIDAY. THE, UM, THE, UH, ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, UH, D-P-W-D-P-W, TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, YOU KNOW, REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE TOWN BOARD. AND, UM, THERE'S A TREMENDOUS EFFORT GOING INTO TRYING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM. IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY THE BIGGEST PROBLEM, UM, IN TRYING TO RESOLVE AN ISSUE BECAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, TALL BUILDINGS STILL IN OPERATION DEALING WITH RAW SEWAGE, AS RAW AS YOU CAN GET. I DIDN'T SMELL ANY GAS WHILE I WAS THERE FOR THE ENTIRE DAY. UH, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THOSE ARE GAS. UH, IT MAY BE SEWER GASES, UH, WHICH ARE DEADLY. I SPOKE TO THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT TODAY AND THEY, UH, CHECKED IT OUT AND SAID EVERYTHING'S FINE. RIGHT. I SPOKE TO THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF, UH, HEALTH FOR, AND HE ALSO REFER, UH, UH, REACHED OUT TO DEP AS WELL. SO THAT WAS DONE TODAY. GOOD. GREAT. ALRIGHT. ONCE THEY CAN, ONCE THEY CAN GET THE PIPE IN FRONT OF A HUNDRED, UH, WITHOUT WATER, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PUT A CAMERA DOWN. BUT RIGHT NOW, IF THEY PUT A CAMERA DOWN THE CAMERA'S UNDERWATER, IT'S NOT GONNA SEE VERY FAR. UH, AND THAT'S A MAJOR UNDERTAKING. MASSIVE OPERATION. TRYING TO BYPASS AN ENTIRE [00:25:01] BUILDING WITH ENORMOUS PIPES, TEMPORARY PIPES ABOVE GROUND, UM, GOING UP PROBABLY 30 FEET HIGH UP, UP AN INCLINE TO GET IT TO EAST HARSDALE AVENUE TO GET IT INTO ONE OF THE, UH, UM, MANHOLES. I'M SURE THERE'S A BETTER WORD THAN THAT, BUT, UH, THAT'S IN THE, IN THE SIDEWALK AND A REASON WHY. RIGHT. EXACTLY. UM, AND IT'S ALSO VERY DANGEROUS WORK. 'CAUSE WE KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE THAT, UM, YOU GO DOWN A MANHOLE AND YOU DON'T CHECK THE GASES. THAT COULD BE A FATALITY. MM-HMM. . SO IS THERE ANY OTHER, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT. WAS THERE ANY OTHER CAUTIONARY PRECAUTIONS THAT WE WANNA GIVE TO ANYONE IN THAT AREA? ANYONE TRYING TO COME PAST THAT AREA? YOU KNOW, JUST, WELL, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS GREAT. UM, THE, UH, 'CAUSE THEY CAME OUT PRETTY MUCH EN MASS. THEY HAVE THE PLANS OF THE FLOORS. WE'RE TRYING TO FIND THE PLANS FOR THE ACTUAL BUILDING, WHY THEY WOULD BUILD A BUILDING ON TOP OF THE, UM, THE SEWER IS BEYOND ME, BUT THEY DID. AND, UM, UM, ONCE WE, ONCE ONCE, ONCE THEY CAN GET THAT PIPE, I THINK WE'LL HAVE THAT HOLDING'S PROBABLY LIKE 70 YEARS OLD. RIGHT. SOME PEOPLE. YEAH. IT WAS IN PROBABLY IN THE SIXTIES. RIGHT. BUT THE, THE, THE MANHOLES ARE MADE OUT OF, OF, OF, OUT OF BRICK TERRACOTTA. RIGHT. AND AS YOU GO DOWN, ONE OF THEM IS LIKE A SNAKE BECAUSE OF THE SHIFTING OF THE EARTH. YEAH. TOOK SOME PHOTOS. SO, YOU KNOW, I KNOW YOU WERE TRYING TO, LET'S HAVE A MEETING WITH THE NEIGHBORS, BUT FRANKLY THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW SO FAR. AND, UH, ONCE, ONCE THE CAMERA CAN GO DOWN, THEN THINGS WILL START TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY GET A LIGHT. THE ONLY REASON, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK FRANK, UH, MODO BECAUSE, UH, THE RIGHT AFTER THIS, YOU KNOW, OCCURRED, UM, BEFORE WE ANYBODY KNEW THE EXTENT OF THE PROBLEM. UH, YOU TOOK TIME OUT OF YOUR SCHEDULE ON A, A WEEKEND AND YOU WERE THERE MOST OF THE WEEKENDS, UH, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING IT. AND, UM, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE ABOUT THE ODORS, UH, AND NOW THE COUNTY SAYS THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE SHOULD WORRY ABOUT. 'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HYPOCHONDRIACS IN EAST DALE AVENUE AND GREENBURG. UM, THE THING IS, UM, CONTRACT SAID ALL FINER. THAT STATEMENT WAS MADE BY PAUL. FINE. WE SEND, DO NOT NECESSARILY REPRESENT THE VIEWS OF THE REST OF US AROUND. RIGHT. I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT PAUL, TAKE THIS VIDEO. THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU SMELL ODORS, YOU GET, YOU WORRY AND YOU WORRIED ABOUT ALL THE RISKS. SO YOUR HEAD, ALL I WANNA SAY IS THAT EVERYBODY THAT I'VE SPOKEN TO, NOBODY'S COMPLAINED ABOUT THE TOWN. EVERYBODY FEELS THE TOWN'S BEEN RESPONSIVE. UH, THEY, UH, THEY FOLLOWED UP IMMEDIATELY. UM, UH, TODAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO THE POLICE THERE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY IS REALLY, UH, PLEASED. I THINK WHAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IS HOW LONG IS THIS GONNA TAKE? WHAT ARE SOME OF THE STEPS THAT ARE, ARE GONNA HAPPEN? YOU KNOW, IF WE SAY, LISTEN, WE CHECKED WITH THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, DON'T WORRY. THE ODORS ARE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. I THINK THAT THE MORE INFORMATION WE PROVIDE, UM, THE BETTER IT IS BECAUSE THEN IT'S TRANSPARENCY AND THEN PEOPLE WILL HAVE MORE, MORE CONFIDENCE. YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE, THE SIDEWALK ISN'T GREAT. THE, YOU KNOW, ISN'T THERE NOW, UH, THE, THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE TWO ENTRANCES ON A HUNDRED EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE. SO IF SOMEBODY, GOD FORBID, HAS A HEART ATTACK, UM, THE FIRST RESPONDERS HAVE TO GO FROM ONE SIDE OF THE BUILDING ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER, WHICH COULD BE, YOU KNOW, CO YOU KNOW, TAKES TIME TO GET FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER BECAUSE THE ENTRANCE ON ONE SIDE IS BLOCKED. UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LITTLE THINGS THAT WE COULD BASICALLY, UH, EXPLAIN TO PEOPLE. AND IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING ANYTHING WRONG. IT'S JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST BELIEVE THE MORE, UH, TRANSPARENT WE ARE AND OPEN WE ARE AND MORE INFORMATION, I THINK PEOPLE APPRECIATE IT. JUST LIKE, MAY I SAY SOMETHING, PAUL? BECAUSE YOU KNOW, AND, AND I AGREE THAT IT'S A GOOD IDEA, BUT TO MAKE PROJECTIONS WHEN WE HAVEN'T IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM YET, WE CAN'T, CAN'T GIVE A DATE AS TO WHEN THINGS WILL BE DONE OR EVEN AN ESTIMATE UNTIL WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION. SO, YOU KNOW, AS, BUT, BUT WHAT WE CAN PROMISE IS THAT AS SOON AS WE DO HAVE INFORMATION, WE WILL MAKE SURE TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW. AND JUST TO REMIND WHAT THE TIMELINE IS. AND JUST TO REMIND RESIDENTS, JUST AS COUNCILMAN, SHE MENTIONED THAT WE HAD EMERGENCY RESPONDERS OUT ON THE SITE. SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THE PATTERNS ARE. WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S OUT ON SITE. SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT PEOPLE IN A PANIC, GOD [00:30:01] FORBID IT WAS A, A MEDICAL EMERGENCY THAT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ASSIST THEM. THIS IS WHY THEY WERE OUT ON SITE. SO JUST, WE JUST WANT TO, WE JUST WANNA MAKE, I HOPE YOU HEARD ME 'CAUSE MY MICROPHONE WAS OFF. SO, UM, I'LL JUST REPEAT MYSELF REALLY QUICKLY. UM, JUST THE REASON WHY FIRST RESPONDERS WERE OUT ON SITE TO MEET WITH EVERYONE SO THEY UNDERSTAND IN CASE AN EMERGENCY DOES HAPPEN, EVERYONE, THERE'S A PLAN IN PLACE. THERE'S A PRE-PLAN AND THERE'S A PRE-PLAN. THANK YOU, SIR. THERE'S A PRE-PLAN IN PLACE. SO I DON'T WANT TO PUT FEAR IN ANYONE THAT WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GET TO YOU. SO I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT, THAT GOD FORBID SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN AN EMERGENCY THAT THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ANY TOWN STAFF KNOWS THE ROUTES TO GET TO ASSIST YOU. WELL DO THEY DO, BUT RIGHT. BUT AGAIN, I THINK IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO LET PEOPLE KNOW AS MUCH. RIGHT. BUT, BUT YOU DON'T WANT TO SPREAD MISINFORMATION. WHEN, WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, HARTSDALE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND THEY WERE OUT IN MASS, THEY WERE OUT CHECKING TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAD THE KEYS TO THE LOCKBOX, THE, AND HOW TO GET IN. THEY CAN GET IN RIGHT WHERE THE BREAK IS. THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM. THE PUBLIC CAN'T GO IN AND OUT THAT WAY 'CAUSE IT'S TOO DANGEROUS. BUT THEY WERE MAKING SURE THAT IF THEY NEEDED TO GET IN THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING, THEY'RE GOING TO GET IN THAT SIDE OF THE BUILDING. SO I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME, FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS TO GO ALL THE WAY AROUND TO GET ME MM-HMM. , THEY HAVE WAYS OF GETTING IN. IT'S JUST THE PUBLIC CAN'T DO THAT BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO HAZARDOUS IN THAT PARTICULAR SITE. DID YOU WANNA, YOU WANNA MOVE IT AND DURING CONSTRUCTION, THE PATH OF EGRESS WILL BE MAINTAINED. RIGHT? SO IT'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE YOU, YOU'RE TRAPPED IN YOUR BUILDING ONCE THE CONSTRUCTION STARTS. BUT YOU SEE, THAT'S WHEN YOU PROVIDING INFORMATION, IF YOU SAID SOMETHING LIKE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS BECAUSE IT'S UNSAFE. BUT THE FIRST RESPONDERS DO HAVE ACCESS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REASSURING TO THE COMMUNITY. SO IT'S NOT, SO I'M SAYING WHATEVER INFORMATION WE COULD DO TO CALM PEOPLE DOWN AND LET PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE HAVE A PLAN. ABSOLUTELY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSS. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION. YES. AND ABSOLUTELY WE, WE TOTALLY AGREE THAT WE MAKE SURE THAT, AND THE UPDATES AND STUFF THAT WE HAVE, WE MAKE SURE THAT WE UPDATE, UM, RESIDENTS. BUT THE BEST PEOPLE TO GIVE THAT ARE, ARE THE PEOPLE FROM THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. UH, THIS IS BASICALLY A SUMMARY OF WHAT WAS HAPPENING ON FRIDAY WHERE, UM, THERE WAS CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF WORK GOING ON AND IT'S, AND THERE WAS A LOT OF WORK DONE BEFORE FRIDAY. YOU KNOW, UH, ONCE THE, UH, BREAK WAS FOUND TO PUT UP THOSE, UM, THOSE THAT TEMPORARY BUT VERY STURDY, SECURE, WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? THEY'RE SHORING FOOT, ONE FOOT PIPES OR YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SIX FOOT PIPES, UH, DIAMETER IN DIAMETER YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE VACUUM TRUCK, RIGHT? RIGHT. THAT THEY'RE ONE FOOT DIAMETER PIPES. RIGHT. RIGHT. SO FOR VACUUM, SO, AND THEY HAVE A BACKUP. AND NOW I SAW SOME EMAILS OF PEOPLE COMPLAINING, WELL, THE BACKUP, UH, HOSE IS TAKING AWAY SOME SPACE WHERE PEOPLE COULD BE WALKING, BUT YOU NEED A BACKUP BECAUSE IT'S NOT GONNA TAKE MUCH FOR THE SEWAGE. REMEMBER, THESE BUILDINGS ARE STILL IN, IN FUNCTIONING. THIS PEOPLE ARE STILL USING THE SINKS. THEY'RE STILL FLUSHING THE TOILETS. IT'S ALL GOING DOWN INTO THE, THESE, THESE, UH, THESE PIPES THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO KEEP CLEAN AND BYPASSED. UH, 100 AND SO FAR, EVEN THOUGH 100 IS BYPASSED, THE PIPE KEEPS GETTING FILLED. AND IT'S NOT NECESSARILY COMING FROM THE BUILDING. IT MAY BE COMING FROM AN, AN ADJACENT BUILDING. ALL OF THIS HAS TO GET WORKED OUT. BUT BEFORE WE START TALKING ABOUT IT'S GONNA TAKE TWO MONTHS, I DON'T KNOW WHO SAID IT'S GONNA TAKE TWO MONTHS. SO I SPOKE FOUR MONTHS TODAY, HE SAID THREE MONTHS. RIGHT. OKAY. SO AGAIN, LET HIM GIVE YOU A GUARANTEE AND HE'LL PAY FOR EVERYTHING. IF IT'S NOT, HE'S NOT GONNA DO THAT . RIGHT. HE'S NOT GONNA DO. SO WE CAN JUST CONTINUE TO UPDATE AND MAKE SURE ONLY THE LAST THING. WE JUST DON'T KNOW. WE JUST DON'T KNOW. IT COULD BE THAT IT'S SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE. RIGHT. AND JUST TO KEEP, JUST TO KEEP THIS IN MIND, YOU'RE DEALING WITH WHAT APPEARS TO BE CLOSE OR IF NOT A 100-YEAR-OLD PIPE THAT'S VERY DEEP IN THE MIDDLE OF A VERY, VERY BUSY ROAD WITH VERY LARGE BUILDINGS SURROUNDING YOU. AND AS FRANCIS SAID, YOU'VE HAD, YOU'VE HAD YOUR FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, FRANK HAS BEEN LIVING OUT THERE, YOUR WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN OUT. EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. MM-HMM. . HOWEVER, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S REALLY THE TRUE CAUSE. RIGHT? SO IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME. EVERYBODY'S GOTTA BE PATIENT. THE RIGHT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE. THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY GOTTA DO. BUT THE, THE ONLY THING THAT I, AND IT IS A PRIORITY, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS GONNA SAY, THIS IS THE LAST THING I'D SAY IS WHAT I WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED IS IF WE WOULD BE, IF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WHO ARE WORKING ON THIS WOULD BE ABLE TO CRAFT LIKE A MEMO THAT WE COULD TAPE ON THE WINDOW AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE LOBBY. UM, AND BASICALLY WE PROVIDE, IT COULD BE EVERY WEEK OR EVERY TWO WEEKS, LITTLE UPDATES. WHILE WE KNOW, WE COULD SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE KNOW RIGHT NOW. WE CAN'T GIVE YOU A, A GUARANTEED TIME, BUT [00:35:01] THIS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE, WE'RE NOT GONNA SOLVE THIS PROBLEM IN A WEEK. IT MAY, IT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF TIMES IF WE SAY, LOOK, UH, GOOD NEWS, THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S BEEN OUT THERE. THE, EVEN IF YOU SMELLED O UH, SMELLED OD ODORS, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO HEALTH RISK. THEN YOU COULD SAY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU WHATEVER. WE COULD SAY, BY THE WAY, GREAT NEWS, IF YOU'RE WORRIED ABOUT, UH, ACCESS IN CASE OF AN EMERGENCY, UM, OUR FIRST RESPONDERS, UH, WILL BE ABLE TO GET TO YOU QUICKLY. IF WE JUST HAD SOMETHING AND WE PUT IT ON THE, AT THE LOBBY, THEN, UH, AND THEN WE KEEP UPDATING PEOPLE, THEN PEOPLE WILL BE, UH, PLEASED BECAUSE PEOPLE CALL ME AND THEY STILL DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. CAN WE MAKE A, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION? UM, WE'RE HAVING A VERY COMPREHENSIVE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS NOW. WE CAN COMMIT TO UPDATING EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS. AND WHAT YOU CAN POST IS FOR PEOPLE TO TUNE IN AND WATCH THE VIDEO AND THEN THEY WILL HEAR THIS ENTIRE DISCUSSION. AND THEN IT'S ENCAPSULATED RATHER THAN PUTTING IT IN TWO LINES ON A PIECE OF PAPER THAT PEOPLE MIGHT NOT LOOK AT. AND AGAIN, WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER WITH THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND I'M GONNA KEEP SAYING THAT. 'CAUSE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CAPITAL, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO REALIZE THAT WE HAVE AN AGING INFRASTRUCTURE. AND I KNOW THIS BOARD HAS SEEN IT A LOT OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS. WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS THAT START TO HAVE PROBLEMS. WE'VE HAD, IT WAS ALEY ROAD LAST YEAR. WE'VE HAD THINGS JUST ALL OVER THE PLACE STARTING TO GIVE US TROUBLES. WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT. ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. RIGHT? SO IF WE EXAMINE THE PIPE AT SOME POINT AND WE DEC DECIDE IT NEEDS TO BE LINED OR SLIP, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT RIGHT. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO GO BACK THERE AND DO THIS AGAIN. EVEN THIS PAST WEEKEND, FRANK, WE GOT CALLED. FRANK WENT OUT, SOMEONE MOVES SOME OF THE BARRIERS AND DECIDED THEY WERE GONNA PARK AND THEY HIT THE TEMPORARY PIPE, HIT PIPE SHIFT, LOOSE IT UP A LITTLE BIT, AND SEWAGE WAS LEAKING. UH, MURANO'S TEAM WAS MURANO'S THE CONTRACTOR THEY WERE CALLED. THEY CORRECT THE SITUATION. SO EVERYBODY'S ON TOP OF THIS. IT'S BEING CHECKED CONSTANTLY. WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THE RESIDENTS OUT THERE. WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S CARED FOR, BUT WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THIS IS DONE RIGHT. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO IT. AND ALSO, IF I MAY, JUST, JUST SO YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ONLY GREENBURG, IT'S THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, THROUGHOUT THE STATE, PROBABLY OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IN THIS COUNTY, FOR THE MOST PART, THOSE PIPES ARE MADE OUT OF TERRACOTTA. THEY'RE OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. THEY DEGRADE. AND WITH THE, WITH CLIMATE AS IT'S BEEN WITH DEVELOPMENT NUMBER ONE, WHICH PUTS MORE STRESS ON THAT INFRASTRUCTURE. AND WITH THE AGGRAVATED CLIMATE STORMS, WHICH PUTS EVEN MORE PRESSURE ON, WE ARE ALL SUFFERING FROM THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS. AND IT, IT'S, IT'S MASSIVE. SO IT'S NOT JUST GREENBERG, IT'S EVERYWHERE. OKAY. AND A LITTLE BIT OF GOOD NEWS WE HAVE. RIGHT. WE GOT A LOT TO DO. OKAY. SO I THINK, I THINK I, I THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT AND I KNOW THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT, UM, THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO HEAR AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE CONTINUOUS UP UPDATES. SO NEXT, NEXT WORK SESSION, IF YOU, EITHER TWO OF YOU CAN COME, YOU KNOW, GIVE US FIVE, FIVE MINUTE UPDATE ON WHAT'S GOING ON, ON, ON DALE AVENUE. YEAH. UM, BUT I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING. WE'RE JUST GONNA PROBABLY CONTINUE WITH THE BUDGET. 'CAUSE I, I BELIEVE, WAIT, JUST THE LAST THING IS NO, I'M JUST SAYING FOURTH LAST THING. I TRIED, I TRIED. RIGHT. ALL I'M SAYING IS I GOT A BUNCH OF EMAILS TODAY FROM PEOPLE WHO MISSED THEIR TRAIN. UM, UH, BECAUSE THEY, BECAUSE THEY WERE GOING ON EAST DALE AVENUE AND THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE UPSET. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT WE PUT A DIGITAL BOARD SOMEWHERE. ABSOLUTELY. NO, I'M SAYING, JUST SAYING AVOID, THERE'S GONNA BE TRAFFIC IN. NO, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY TRAFFIC. IT, IT BASICALLY THE DIGITAL BOARD IS SAYING, UH, BE CAREFUL ABOUT THE SIDEWALK, YOU KNOW, CROSSING. CAN WE JUST CHANGE THE MESSAGE? WE CHANGE, JUST CHANGE THE MESSAGE. CHANGE. IF YOU COULD WORK, IF YOU COULD WORK WITH WHOEVER, WHOEVER'S CHANGES THE MESSAGE. WHO CHANGES THE MESSAGE? DO YES. I THINK BEN IS, UH, BEN SERGEANT. SO, SO WE HAVE, WE CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE CHIEF AND AND THE SERGEANT AND THEN, UM, IT PROBABLY SHOULD ALTERNATE BECAUSE IF YOU'VE BEEN SAYING BE CAREFUL OF THE SIDEWALK AND YOU TAKE THAT DOWN AND SOMEBODY GETS HURT ON THE SIDEWALK, WELL COULD SCROLL TO SOMETHING. YEAH, THAT'S, YEAH. THAT'S WHERE WE COULD BASICALLY PUT ANOTHER ONE ON CENTRAL AVENUE OR WEST TAR. WE CAN WORK OUT THOSE LOGISTICS. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO. ABSOLUTELY. WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE THAT SORT WORK WITH THE CHIEF. WELL CHIEF AND HIS STAFF. ONCE WE GET THE PIPE EMPTY, A LOT WILL HAPPEN. SO IT'LL MOVE. ALRIGHT. APPRECIATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU'RE DOING ON THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP, REALLY. AND RICH, WE STILL NEED TO YEP. KIMBERLY'S BEEN GREAT BY THE WAY. THANK, THANK YOU. YES, THANKS. WE DO APPRECIATE IT. YOU REALLY WANT YOUR BUDGET APPROVED, DON'T YOU? ? I DON'T HAVE VIDEOS LIKE GAS. OH GOSH. ALRIGHT GUYS, Y'ALL BE SAFE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [00:40:01] OKAY, I, SO WHERE ARE WE? IT'S TUR. I JUST, I JUST MENTIONED THE DRAINAGE. THAT WAS, I DON'T EVEN, WE TALKED ABOUT ANYTHING. OKAY. WE JUST WERE, WE WERE, I THINK WE WERE JUST DISCUSS. SO YOU WERE DOWN TO 20 MILLION AND WENT BACK TO 25. YEAH, I HAD TO ADD THE IT IN THERE THAT WASN'T IN THERE. AND UM, THEN SUPERVISOR AND I MET AND THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WERE DEFERRED TO 2025. AND THEN, SO IT'S THE GOAL TO GET IT TO 20. SO IF IT COMES BACK IN, SOMETHING ELSE HAS TO GO OUT. WELL, I'M NOT SO CONCERNED BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE 17 4 0 5 IN 17 MILLION 4 0 5 IN LONG TERM DEBT GOING OUT. SO I'M COMFORTABLE WITH THAT. UM, ARE YOU THE CONTROLLER? ? WE'RE NOT USED TO THIS. SHE'S WORKING. SO, AND THEN IF YOU LOOK AT, WE HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW, OTHER SOURCES OF REVENUE COMING IN, FOR INSTANCE, THAT $3 MILLION, THAT'S, WE'RE GONNA GET THAT BACK. THAT'S A PASS THROUGH. AND THEN WE HAVE, UM, SOME GRANT MONEY COMING IN. THIS IS ALL MOSTLY WHAT GARRETT'S WORK HERE AT THE BOTTOM. AND IF YOU LOOK IN THE COLUMN IT SAYS FUNDING SOURCE, YOU'LL SEE ALL THE DIFFERENT FUNDING SOURCES AND POTENTIALLY MORE GRANTS. CORRECT? YES. YES. YEP. ALWAYS MORE GRANTS. YOUR COMMENTS ARE VERY BRIEF. . SO, WELL, NEXT TIME I CAN PRINT THE COMMENT SECTION. COMMENT SECTION. OH, YOU'RE ON THE SPREADSHEET. . I GOT EVERYTHING UP HERE. . ALL RIGHT. SO ALL AGAIN, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE. SO ALL OF THE CUTS THAT YOU AND THE SUPERVISOR HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE AWARE OF IT? YES, WE DID. WE THEY CAME INTO THE MEETING. YES. MAKE SURE. OKAY, SO THEY, BECAUSE I JUST DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT US TO, I DON'T WANT US TO. SO THEY WERE SURPRISE. SO I JUST WANNA, SO WE'RE JUST DEFERRING TO THE FALL WHERE WE'RE GONNA REALIGNMENTS. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE YEAH. DEPARTMENTS EXCELLENT. WE'RE REALIGNING THE CAPITAL BUDGET WITH THE OPERATING BUDGET THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE ONLY TALKING ABOUT GOING TO, I THINK IT'S OCTOBER, RIGHT? YES. YES. BUT THIS STILL READS $37 MILLION, RIGHT? $37.5 MILLION. YES. BE WELL THAT'S THE ORIGINAL WISH WISH LIST. THE 37. SO THEN YOU'RE PULLING OUT 7.4. YES, THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN ANOTHER 4.9. YES. INVESTED 25. CORRECT. WELL, WE'RE GONNA USE, UH, THE CLOSER, WE'RE GONNA USE THE SAME FORMAT WITH A PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. SO IT'S GONNA BE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND. BUT WE'LL HAVE, UH, THIS IN THE BACK OF IT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE YES, THE PRESENTATION WILL BE THE SAME FORMAT. SO THIS WAS JUST FOR THE PURPOSE OF TODAY TO REVIEW ALL THE PROJECTS IN THE, IT'S A NICE FORMAT SCHEDULE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, A NINE, MAKE A BIGGER, HAVE A PAGE OF DESCRIPTION BY THE TIME YOU GET TO THE LAST PART. THIS SHOWS US ALL THE DIFFERENT PROJECTS. RIGHT. IT'S A GOOD SUMMARY. THANK YOU. AND WE ARE THE FUNDING SOURCES. MM-HMM. . AND IT'S THE FORMAT SHE LIKES, BY THE WAY. WE'LL MAKE IT BIGGER FONT. MAKE SURE NO, NO. AND I WAS SAYING IT'S RIGHT HERE. I WASN'T SAYING MAKE IT WHEN I SAID BIGGER. OH, OKAY. I WAS LIKE, SO, BUT SO IS THIS FORMAT BETTER? LIKE, TO USE THIS FORMAT WOULD BE BETTER TO USE FOR EVERYONE TO UNDERSTAND IT. LIKE, WELL, THIS FORMAT'S GOOD FOR AUDIT. SO IT SEPARATES EVERYTHING BY ASSET CLASSIFICATION. IT'S LIKE A CAPITAL PROJECT LENGTH SCHEDULE. IT'S GONNA TIE OUT TO WHAT'S IN THE LEDGER BECAUSE WE DO USE PROJECT COST ACCOUNTING, SO WE CAN SEE THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS ALMOST LIKE A MINI P AND L. UM, AND SO THIS CAN JUST BE ADDED TO WHAT'S IN THE AUDIT WORK PAPERS NOW. AND IT'S A GOOD SUMMARY FORMAT TO GO OVER TO SEE THE PROGRESSION OF THE BUDGET AS IN WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY REQUESTED, UM, WHAT THE SUPERVISOR IS REQUESTING, AND THEN WHAT THE BOARD'S FINAL PROPOSED IS. BUT THEN WE CAN SWITCH OVER TO THE OTHER FORMAT FOR MY PRESENTATION. WHAT WHATEVER THE BOARD WOULD LIKE BEING THIS IS MY FIRST GO AROUND IN TERMS OF THIS. WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN THE, IN THE FORMATTING? THEY WOULD ADD NARRATIVE TO WHY WE WANTED OKAY. YOU KNOW, BUT AUDITORS, YOU KNOW, DON'T GET TOO CARRIED AWAY WITH THE NARRATIVE. YES. A GOOD IDEA. RIGHT? IT THIS IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY, THIS IS FIRST TIME WE'RE SEEING IT AS WELL, BY THE WAY, BECAUSE THIS IS KIMBERLY. SURE. MM-HMM. , UM, BEST PRACTICES. SHE BELIEVES, [00:45:01] UH, BECAUSE YOU COULD SEE EVERYTHING RIGHT. WITHOUT IT BEING BURIED IN 25. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR. CLEAN. YES, EXACTLY. NO, I, I THINK THIS IS, WE WANT TRANSPARENCY AND I THINK EVERYTHING'S HERE. I LIKE IT. I LIKE IT A LOT. AND IT SHOWS YOU, WHAT'S THIS YEAR, WHAT'S DEFERRED? MM-HMM. . MM-HMM. . REALLY. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO YOU, I IS ANY CONSIDERATION, I KNOW WE, WE'VE HAD THAT FORMAT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, THE WAY WE'VE BEEN PRESENTING IT BEFORE, THAT MAY BEEN CHANGING THAT FORMAT JUST TO MAKE IT A MORE USER FRIENDLY, EASIER TO, SO, UM, I AM GOING TO MAKE SOME CHANGES, BUT I'M GONNA BE CONSERVATIVE 'CAUSE I THINK SUPERVISOR LIKES THE FORMAT WE HAVE IN PLACE. YEAH. SO, SO YOU'RE GONNA DO BOTH. YEAH. , DO WE GET A HOLD IN THIS? AND I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU ACTUALLY DATE THEM, RIGHT? YEP. SO YES, SO WE KNOW, SO WE KNOW IF THERE'S A REVISION THAT NOT ALL LABELED CAPITAL 24. UH, SO I HAVE THEM SET UP IN MY FILE FOLDER WITH DATES AS WHEN THEY'RE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD. SO THERE'LL BE AN AMENDED ONE AFTER TONIGHT. AND THAT'LL BE NUMBER TWO. IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US ANOTHER ONE. IT'S GONNA LOOK JUST LIKE THIS. AND WITH THE DATE ON IT, OF COURSE, TODAY'S DATE RIGHT ON 11 BY 17. AND IF YOU, IF YOU LEARN, YOU MIGHT WANNA PUT THE TIME ON IT TOO, BECAUSE THE, AND PREPARED BY . YES. AS YOU KNOW, GOING IN TODAY, THERE WERE CHANGES LEADING UP TO THIS. CAN, CAN I ASK A QUESTION JUST SINCE WE, WE STILL HAVE A LITTLE MORE WORK TO, YOU KNOW, TO DO ON, UH, THE FORMAT. AND I KNOW WE HAVE THE FRIDAY DEADLINE. UH, WE HAVE THE WEDNESDAY OF NEXT WEEK IS WHEN WE'RE SETTING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR TWO WEEKS LATER. UM, SINCE THIS IS BASIC, COULD WE SAY, COULD WE BASICALLY GIVE KIMBERLY A. LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TILL LIKE THE BEGINNING OF NEXT WEEK? UM, UM, I THINK SHE WANTS THIS GET TO GET THIS. I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE DONE BY FRIDAY. 'CAUSE I'M, I'M ACTUALLY IN MEETINGS ALL DAY THURSDAY I THINK. NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M JUST SAYING. COULD WE BASICALLY SAY THIS IS THE PROPOSED BUDGET RIGHT NOW, BUT THEN, UH, IF, YOU KNOW, WE GET, IF WE FINALIZE IT, SAY BY WEDNESDAY, THEN WE COULD HAVE THE PRINT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING FOR THE PUBLIC. IN OTHER WORDS, PUSH IT BACK TWO WEEKS. YEAH, I THINK SO. I'M NOT, I NEED THAT. I STILL WANNA SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING WEDNESDAY FOR TWO WEEKS FROM, FROM, IT DOESN'T WORK THAT WAY. I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S A LOT, LOT FOR ME TO PUT TOGETHER FIRST GO. AND WHEN DO YOU THINK, HOW LONG DO YOU THINK IT WOULD TAKE? HONESTLY, AT LEAST A WEEK. . I MEAN, I WOULD BE RIGHT UP TO THE DEADLINE. SO, UM, ESPECIALLY LIKE ADDING ALL THOSE NARRATIVES AND THE ADDITIONAL FORMAT, BRINGING IN THE OTHER BUDGETED YEARS AND THEN . SO THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS THAT THE, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, WE ONLY HAVE ONE MEETING IN JULY AND UM, WE, YOU KNOW, AND BASICALLY ONE MEETING IN AUGUST, SO IF WE DON'T GET SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE END OF JUNE, UH, THEN, UH, THEN IT'S NOT GONNA GET APPROVED UNTIL AUGUST, WHICH IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SO WELL IF YOU'RE OKAY WITH THIS FORMAT, IT WON'T BE THAT MUCH. NO, I'M SAYING WHAT I'M SUGGESTING I'M OKAY WITH IT. NO, WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THE NARRATIVES THAT A LONG TIME. I'M SAYING LEGALLY THIS WOULD BE THE LEGALLY JUST TO COMPLY WITH THE RULES OF THE BOARD SAYS THIS IS THE SUBMISSION OF THE PROPOSED BUDGET. OKAY. THEN BASICALLY, UH, THE PUBLIC WILL, YOU KNOW, WHEN, THEN WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, WE WILL COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S EASIER FOR THE AVERAGE PERSON TO UNDERSTAND. AND THAT WILL BE, HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THAT BY NEXT. DO YOU THINK WE'LL HAVE THAT BY NEXT WEDNESDAY? I DON'T THINK GET MUCH EASIER. NO, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S SAYING. WHAT'S THE AVERAGE PERSON? I LIKE THE NARRATIVE. WELL WE, HE DIDN'T PUT, SHE DIDN'T ADD THAT PIECE ON THERE, REMEMBER? RIGHT. SHE SAID SHE HAS THAT UPSTAIRS. REMEMBER WHEN SHE STILL HAD EACH DEPARTMENT CAME IN, IT CAME IN WITH A NARRATIVE AND THEN THAT GOT EMAILED OUT TO THE PUBLIC. SO THEY'VE ALREADY SEEN THE NARRATIVE. NO, I KNOW, RIGHT? BUT I'M JUST SAYING I, I STILL WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT THE BUDGET SORT OF IN A I KNOW, BUT YOU CAN'T, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT, THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT CONSIDERATIONS. FIRST OF ALL, YOU'RE PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE CONTROLLER TO GET IT DONE IN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME. BE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU FEEL IT, IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA. I'M NOT KNOCKING THAT. BUT THEN GIVE HER THE LATITUDE SHE, SHE NEEDS. WELL ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE 25TH WORK SESSION OF JUNE OR THE 26TH BOARD MEETING? WHAT ARE WE, WHAT DATE ARE WE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT NEXT? I WAS TOLD THE 12TH NEXT WEEK THE TOWN BOARD. THE 12TH. RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE THE TOWN BOARD TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 12TH FOR THE SCHEDULE, THE PUBLIC HEARING. NOT HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULE. THE PUBLIC HEARING. OH, I WAS JUST SAYING SCHEDULING THE PUBLIC HEARING. JUST SCHEDULE SCHEDULING FOR TWO WEEKS LATER. WHICH MEANS SHE NEEDS THE SIXTH. SHE HAS TWO WEEKS TO DO, LET HER LET HER MAKE THE DECISION. 'CAUSE SHE'S DOING THE WORK. THAT'S LIKE, THAT'S FOUR WORKING DAYS FOR ME TO COMPLETE THE ENTIRE PACKET THE TIME AND TELL US WHAT'S THE WORKING. NO, BUT BUT PAUL'S JUST SAYING WE'RE SCHEDULING YOU NOT KIND OF COMPLETING. I KNOW, [00:50:01] BUT TWO WEEKS COMES FAST. NO, THE 20. SO CAN YOU HAVE IT COMPLETED FOR THE 26TH? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YES. OKAY. SO BUT WHEN WOULD YOU HAVE IT DONE? YOU CAN'T GIVE IT TO US ON THE 26TH. NO, NOT IN FOUR DAYS. NO, NO NOT. AND WHEN I'M IN MEETINGS ALL DAY ON THURSDAY. SO, UM, SO I THINK KIMBERLY, REALISTICALLY, I DON'T WANNA PUT THE PRESSURE ON YOU. I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU NEED TO GET DONE AND JUST LET US KNOW. IT DOES. THAT ANSWER DOESN'T NEED TO BE THE PROBLEM IS WE REALLY NEED, I KNOW, BUT, BUT PAULA, SHE GOES UPSTAIRS AND SHE LOOKS AT EVERYTHING THAT SHE DOES AND, AND TELLS US TOMORROW IT'S NOT GONNA HURT ANYTHING, RIGHT? NO, BUT LET HER, LET HER, LET HER BE CLEAR ON WHAT THE TIMELINE SHE NEEDS. YEAH. THE ONLY THING, RIGHT. IF WE UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT IT IS THAT SHE CAN, IF GOING WITH THIS, I'M READY TO GO . RIGHT. SO PAUL, SO YOU ARE ASKING HER TO DO EXTRA WORK, BUT YOU DON'T WANNA GIVE HER THE TIME. NO, I, IF WE GO WITH THIS, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. WE CAN DO IT IN TWO WEEKS. SHE SAYS SHE'S READY TO GO. RIGHT. THAT'S WHAT, BUT YOU DON'T WANT THIS, YOU WANT ALSO HER TO INSERT WHY WE'RE DOING EACH ONE. THAT TAKES TIME. SHE HAS. RIGHT. BUT THAT'S WHAT, BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS LEGALLY RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A, A POLICY THAT WE HAVE TO, BEFORE WE PUT SOMETHING ON AGENDA, IT HAS TO BE DONE BY THE FRIDAY BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING. MM-HMM. . SO WHAT I'M SUGGESTING THE MONDAY BEFORE MONDAY. BEFORE THE MONDAY BEFORE THE BOARD MEETING BEFORE. SO IS THE SEVENTH OF MONDAY A WEEK AND A HALF, RIGHT? THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 17TH. HOW ABOUT THE 17TH? LET'S LOOK AT DATES. RIGHT? THAT GIVES ME NEXT WEEK. SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THE 17TH. THE 17TH. SO CAN YOU DO YES, I CAN DO THE 17TH. THE 17TH. SO WE STOP BEING PRESSURED. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I WANNA MAKE SURE SHE'S NOT PRESSURED. THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE AT LEAST A WEEK AND A HALF TO REVIEW. SO THAT'S GOOD TO BE ABLE TO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENT. RIGHT. BUT WE COULD SCHEDULE THE HEARING ON THE 26TH. 12TH. 12TH. SO NEXT WEEK, FOUR 20 FOR THE 26TH. THAT'S ALL I WANT. TRYING ALREADY FIGURED IT OUT FOR US. THAT'S PERFECT. SO I'LL BE ADDING THE NARRATIVE PORTION THAT YOU WANT TO THIS AND THEN YOU GET THIS TO US. 'CAUSE THIS IS THE LEGAL DOCUMENT AND NARRATIVE IS LIKE A NICE EXTRA, OKAY. 'CAUSE THE PUBLIC, THAT WAS ALL GB LISTED OUT ALL THE NARRATIVES FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S ON HERE. OKAY. AND IT'S NOT LIKELY I WOULD SIT HERE AND READ ALL OF THEM DURING THE NO, NO, NO, NOT AT ALL. OKAY. SO WE'RE WE RESOLVE THIS? OKAY. OKAY. SO KIMBERLY, THAT'S IT, THAT'S YOU FINISHED WITH YOUR PRESENTATION OR, UM, UNLESS YOU WANNA GO LINE BY LINE. I AM BUT WE'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH THESE SO I DON'T THINK WE, THE INDIVIDUAL PRESENTATIONS, WE WENT THROUGH IT. ALL RIGHT. I THINK THERE'S NOTHING NEW IN HERE, RIGHT? NO, NOTHING NEW. OKAY. SO I'M JUST GONNA THEN BRING OVER UM, WHAT'S IN THE TOWN SUPERVISOR'S SUBMISSION OVER TO THE BOARDS BUDGET AND PUT THAT AND PROPOSE. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. THAT'S PERFECT. AND THEN WE CAN ABSORB AND ASK QUESTIONS IF WE HAVE ANY MORE. YES. WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND ME THE QUESTION. COVER IT RIGHT NOW. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. EXCELLENT. I DO THINK 25 IS A BIT HIGH, BUT, UM, YEAH, WE'RE NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND GO LINE BY LINE 'CAUSE WE JUST DON'T HAVE TIME TONIGHT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO LET'S MOVE ON. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO, UM, I GUESS PAUL, YOU WANNA ANNOUNCE OR YOU WANT ME TO? UH, THIS IS, UH, SO THIS PORTION OF THE MEETING IS GOING TO BE THE, UM, FLAG RAISING OF THE LGBTQ PLUS. AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'RE GONNA GO OUTSIDE, RAISE THE FLAG, AND THEN WE'VE DECIDED WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING AT THE END OF OUR LAST MEETING IN JUNE. DO YOU HAVE THE DATE? SIXTH? THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR ON THE 26TH. UM, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE COMMENTS AND THOSE WHO COULD NOT MAKE TONIGHT'S FLAG RAISING, UM, WE CAN COME OUT AND MAKE COMMENTS, UM, REP, UH, TO TALK ABOUT PRIDE MONTH AND WHAT IT MEANS TO YOU. BUT RIGHT NOW, UM, IT WON'T, IT WILL NOT BE, UH, BROADCAST. BROADCAST. THANK YOU. I BELIEVE IT WILL BE, NO, NOT BROADCAST. NO, IT WON'T BE LIVE. NO, NO. HOLD ON. HOLD ON GUYS. LET ME JUST GET IT OUT PLEASE. THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO HEAR, SO THERE WON'T BE ANY SPEECHES OR ANYTHING. SO, YOU KNOW, THERE WON'T BE, THERE WON'T BE ANY SPEECHES OR ANYTHING. SO, UM, BUT WE'RE JUST GONNA GO OUT AND GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. UM, WE DO HAVE OUR CHAIR OF THE GREENBERG HUMAN RIGHTS HERE WHO WILL BE REPRESENTING HUMAN RIGHTS. UM, I'M NOT SURE WHO OTHER GUESTS ARE GOING TO BE HERE, BUT AGAIN, THERE WILL NOT BE ANY SPEECHES. WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DO, UM, RECOGNIZE THAT IT IS PRIDE MONTH. OKAY. AND WE WILL NOT BE COMING BACK. SO, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE MO IS THIS THE PORTION THAT YOU WANNA DO? UM, THE MOTION FOR? SHALL WE TO MOTION TO AJOUR? I THINK IT'S CLEANER IF WE COME BACK, COME BACK AND DO IT CAN COME BACK TO THAT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. BUT TERRENCE, UH, DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE UH, ZOOM ON YOUR DEVICE THAT YOU CAN GO OUTSIDE? SO YEAH, WE CAN COME ON HERE. GINA, WE NOPE. HOLD ON. 'CAUSE WE MAKE SURE HE GOT IT RIGHT. YEAH, I'M GONNA GO SET UP. YOU GONNA SET UP, UP THERE? OKAY. SO WE'RE COMING. SO ARE YOU GONNA PIN YOURSELF OR SHOULD I PIN YES, GO OUT. GO OUT NOW? YEAH. SO THIS ONE'S GONNA BE HOT THOUGH, JUST SO YOU KNOW. NO WORRIES. RIGHT? YES. RIGHT BACK. RIGHT BACK. [00:55:06] SOMEBODY DID BRING A FLAG, RIGHT? NO, IT'S THERE. ALRIGHT GUYS. THANK YOU KIMBERLY. HAVE A GREAT EVENING. KIMBERLY. I, YEAH, JASON HAD IT ALL, UH, ALL CORRECT. HE WAS ON. WE DO, WE'LL DO MORE SPEECHES AT THE END OF THE MONTH. ? NO, I'M GONNA USE SOME. OKAY. [01:02:13] EXCUSE ME, PAUL. OH, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT FOR TURN. YEAH, WE'RE BACK. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE. SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. AND WE WON'T BE COMING BACK THIS EVENING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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