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WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION.
TODAY IS TUESDAY, JULY 2ND, AND THE FIRST ITEM IS A DISCUSSION OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
SO, UM, WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING AND UM, I THINK I MADE SOME SUGGESTIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AFTER REVIEWING IT, AFTER THE HEARING, MOVING, UM, UM, TWO ITEMS FROM THE BB FROM THE A BUDGET TO THE BB BUDGET, THERE WERE TWO SIDEWALKS THAT I THINK WERE ORIGINALLY IN THE, A BUDGET, THE DOS ARY ROAD, UH, ONE, AND THEN, UM, I THINK THE, THE GRAND FROM NORWOOD ROAD, AND I THOUGHT THAT SHOULD BE IN THE B BUDGET INSTEAD.
SO, UH, THE BUDGET THAT I PRESENTED DID NOT HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS IN THE A BUDGET.
OKAY, THEN, THEN ON MISS REDDIT.
I THINK, I THINK, I THINK SOMEBODY HAS TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET AND BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THE SOLAR PANELS FOR THIS BUILDING, OR IN THE B BUDGET, THERE'S HEADINGS THAT SAY TOWN AND TIRE, WHICH CAN MISLEAD PEOPLE.
SO, UH, YOU WOULD KNOW KIMBERLY IS BRAND NEW, SO YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER THAN ANYBODY IF YOU COULD GO THROUGH IT AND JUST LIST A, B, DA.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO, I KNOW THE, THE SOLAR PANELS WOULD BE AN A BUDGET ITEM BECAUSE THE BUILDING IS A, UM, SO WE HAD THE SOLAR PANELS IN A, UM, I BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS SORT OF CONFUSING FROM LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, AT THE BUDGET WHAT WAS A AND WHAT WAS B.
UM, AND I KNOW THE MAYOR OF LEY A SO IT WAS A LITTLE YEAH, IT WAS, YEAH, WELL THE, THE HEADINGS AT TOWN AND TIRE AND THEN EVERYTHING WAS UNDER THAT.
SO MAYBE IT WAS JUST A PROBLEM WITH THE, THE HEADING, BUT IT LOOKED LIKE EVEN DPW WAS IN TOWN AND TIRE.
WE JUST NEED TO STRAIGHTEN IT OUT.
WE HAVE TO MAKE IT A CLEANER BEFORE WE GO A CLEANER, YOU KNOW.
SO, UM, UH, YESTERDAY YOU EMAILED ME AND UM, AND INDICATED THAT THERE WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME POLICE VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, POLICE, UH, EMERGENCY AMBULANCE VEHICLES, I THINK YOU SAID WERE A YES, THAT'S CORRECT.
DO YOU WANNA JUST READ WHAT YOU, YOU HAD GIVEN US, UH, A MORE ADEPT, DEFINITIVE, UM, OPINION IS A STATEMENT AS TO WHAT'S IN A AND WHAT'S IN B.
SO I, I'M NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK ON THAT.
I TOOK MY DIRECTIVE FROM THE, YOUR EMAIL.
I REMEMBER, I THINK CAPTAIN, UM, FRANCIS MENTIONED IF YOU WOULD HELP ON THAT BECAUSE YOU, SINCE KIMBERLY JUST JOINED US, WELL, I'VE BEEN EMAILING ALL WEEK AND I KEEP GETTING, I KEEP GETTING DIFFERENT INFORMATION AS WHAT'S IN A AND WHAT'S IN, WHAT'S IN B.
WHEN I SPOKE TO YOU, THE, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK, HOLD ON FOR A SECOND 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU EMAILED ME, UM, YESTERDAY.
MAYBE IT'D BE BETTER TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER WITH THE BUDGET IN FRONT OF YOU AND TO GO THROUGH IT AND TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, SO, BECAUSE IT CAN BE CONFUSING TO EMAIL SOME OF THESE DETAILS AND NOT KNOWING WHAT WORK COLUMN YOU'RE REFERRING TO OR THIS AND THAT.
WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL, KIMBERLY? WAIT, HOLD ON.
YEAH, I JUST DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
UM, AND EVEN IF, BUT THERE WERE, EVEN IF YOU DID, YOU'RE BRAND NEW.
THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED TOWN WITH A BUDGET AND B BUDGET BECAUSE OF THE FIN IN LAW, WHICH NO OTHER MUNICIPALITY HAS.
SO YOU'RE REALLY NOT EXPECTED TO COME IN AND SAY, OH YES, THAT'S A, THAT'S B, THAT'S B.
SO SHE, SHE NEEDS HELP WITH THAT.
BUT I'M SAYING I, I MUST'VE EMAILED YOU LIKE FOUR OR FIVE TIMES AND WE KEEP GETTING DIFFERENT ANSWERS.
SO ALL I'M SAYING IS RIGHT NOW, WHY DON'T WE JUST, UH, LOOK AT THE BUDGET.
YOU, YOU HAD EMAILED, UH, THE MAYOR OF ARDSLEY, UM, AND UM, LEMME JUST SEE, HOLD ON.
OH, RIGHT OVER HERE WE HAVE, THIS IS WHAT YOU SAID, THE CRISIS NEGOTIATIONS VEHICLE UPGRADE WAS A, YOU MENTIONED THAT, UH, THE ANIMAL CONTROL VANS AND ASSOCIATED EQUIPMENT IS A, YOU MENTIONED THAT MOTOROLA, A PX 4,000 RADIOS, YOU SAID WAS A, THE AMBULANCE, UM, UH, IS A, AND THE ODELL HOUSE HISTORIC RESTORATION WAS A, THAT'S, THAT'S THE LAST EMAIL I GOT FROM YOU AND YOU SENT IT TO, UH, THE MAYOR OF LEY, UH, YEAH, YOU KNOW, YESTERDAY.
SO THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE THE A ITEMS. AND SO THE, A BUDGET ITEMS ARE INCLUDED IN THREE DIFFERENT PLACES.
AND THE PRESENTATION NARRATIVE SECTION, PAGE FIVE THROUGH 16, CAPITAL SCHEDULE, THIRD COLUMN BETWEEN USEFUL LIFE AND FUNDING SOURCE PAGES 18 TO 20, BUDGETED 2024, CAPITAL A AND B PAGES 23 AND 25, WHICH INCLUDE ITEMIZED A BUDGET.
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THAT'S THE ANSWER TO WHAT, WHAT YOU HAD.SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE ALPHABET SOUP WITHOUT ACTUALLY LOOKING AT THE DIFFERENT PAGES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHAT I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT, WELL, THAT'S WHAT KIMBERLY'S NOT THE ONE THAT'S MAKING THE DETERMINATION OF A VERSUS B.
WELL, THESE ARE ALL A ITEMS AND YOU KNOW, WAS MENTIONED SO FAR.
WELL, COUNCILWOMAN HABER MADE A GOOD SUGGESTION ABOUT YOU'RE SITTING DOWN WITH KIMBERLY AND GOING THROUGH, WE, WE, WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY NO, NO, NO, NO.
I SAID SIT DOWN, FACE TO FACE WITH THE BUDGET IN FRONT OF YOU AND GO THROUGH IT SO THAT YOU'RE ON THE SAME QUOTE, UNQUOTE PAGE
SO THAT KIMBERLY IS CLEAR ON SENDING, I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE, YOU THINK THAT IT'S CLEAR, BUT BEING THAT THIS IS HER FIRST EXPER, KIMBERLY'S FIRST EXPERIENCE OF THIS, IT IS NOT NECESSARILY CLEAR AND GOING THROUGH IT TOGETHER WITH IT IN FRONT OF YOU IS THE BEST WAY BEFORE WE ACTUALLY PRESENT IT.
NO, BUT LEMME JUST, LEMME JUST SAY SOMETHING.
THE MEMO THAT, UH, THAT THE CONTROLLER SENT TO NANCY KABUL AND YESTERDAY MM-HMM.
SO BASICALLY THERE'S NO OTHER ITEMS IN THE A BUDGET THAT, UM, EVERYTHING ELSE IS IN THE B BUDGET.
SO, UM, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, WE INDICATED THERE'S NOTHING IN DPW IN THE A BUDGET.
THERE'S NOTHING IN PARKS IN THE A BUDGET.
SO THE ITEM, THERE'S, THERE'S FIVE ITEMS. THE ODELL HOUSE IS, YOU KNOW, THE BIG ONE BECAUSE, AND WE ALL SAID THAT THAT WAS AN A AND THEN AMBULANCE, MOTOROLA ANIMAL CONTROL, ANIMAL CONTROL HAS ALWAYS BEEN AN A BUDGET ITEM.
SO THE, THOSE ARE ITEMS. SO, SO WHAT IF, WHAT, WHAT IF THE CONTROLLER MOVES THOSE TO THE CORRECT AREA? NO, THEY WERE, OKAY, SO THEN THEY ARE, BUT IT STILL TO GO THROUGH IT.
BUT IN CASE THERE'S SOME THAT MAYBE WE'RE NOT THINKING OF OR WHATEVER COULD NOT HURT.
I MEAN, DO YOU NOT HAVE TIME TOMORROW TO DO THAT TOGETHER? YEAH, I HAVE TIME, BUT ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT THIS, SO WHY DONT YOU MAKE THE TIME TO, THIS IS, WHEN I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET, I FEEL THAT THE BUDGET, AS, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED IT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE'VE INDICATED WATSON A AND WATSON B, THERE'S PRACTICALLY NOTHING IN, IN A, IT'S JUST THESE ITEMS ARE IN A, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I, YOU, I MEAN WE, WELL, IT, IT, IT CAN'T HURT.
I'M GONNA JUST TO B EITHER, DON'T WORRY.
I, I WILL SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND WE'LL WORK ON THAT.
AND CLARITY OF HEADING, LET'S SAY, INSTEAD OF SAYING, DECIDE WHETHER YOU'RE GONNA SAY TOWN TIRE OR WE SAY A AND B BUDGET.
SO THAT CAN CAN BE CONFUSING FOR YEAH.
PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING, CREATING THE BUDGET AS WELL AS FOR, YOU KNOW, OKAY, THE PUBLIC.
SO, AND I'M LOOKING AT WHAT WAS SENT TO NANCY KABUL, AND IT'S VERY EASY TO MISUNDERSTAND WHAT IS IN A BUDGET OR B BUDGET, BECAUSE THE HEADING SAYS TOWN AND TIRE.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS TO WORK THROUGH THAT TO MAKE SURE, UH, AND IF I REMEMBER CORRECTLY IN THAT, IN THAT, UH, THE SOLAR PANELS FOR HERE WERE NOT LISTED UNDER BUILDINGS, WHICH WOULD'VE PUT IT INTO A, IT WAS PUT INTO, UH, AND THERE'S A HEADING HERE.
I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT IT MEANS.
UM, WHICH IS, UM, CULTURE AND RECREATION.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT DEPARTMENT THAT IS.
I CULTURE AND RECREATION, SO, OKAY.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S ALL WE NEED IS, SO I'LL MEET TOMORROW.
I THINK IT CAN BE A TIME THAT YOU'RE AVAILABLE AND THEN WE CAN MEET, YOU KNOW, AND FOR ME, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT WITH THE CDBG BLOCK GRANT MONEY, UH, WE USE THAT TO UPGRADE THE BUS FROM BEING FUEL TO BEING A HYBRID LIKE THE COUNTY DOES.
AND I SENT, UM, TO A COUPLE OF PEOPLE, UM, A GRANT OPPORTUNITY FOR, AND, AND I SPOKE TO GARRETT ABOUT IT, AND I SPOKE TO WINSOME ABOUT IT.
I DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO RICH ABOUT IT, BUT THERE IS A FEDERAL GRANT FOR, UM, ELECTRIC BUSES, UM, FOR UNDERSERVED AREAS.
SO THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOW THEY'RE SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT, SO MAYBE THAT CAN BE AN OFFSET.
IT'S, IT'S A SHORT WINDOW, BUT, UM, HOPEFULLY AS THEY LOOK THROUGH IT, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO RIGHT.
FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT'S WORTH APPLYING TO THAT CAN OFFSET THIS.
BUT IF WE PUT IN, I PUT IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET, $200,000 FOR THE BUSES, BUT THEN AFTER THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS APPROVED, THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO GO FOR BID, AND THEN WE HAVE TO BASICALLY BID OUT EVERYTHING.
SO IF WE PUT $200,000 FOR, UM, FOR BUSES AND WE GET A GRANT FOR ELECTRIC BUSES, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DECIDE WE WANNA GO ELECTRIC BUSES AND THERE'S $200,000 IN GRANTS FROM EITHER CDBG
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OR, OR FROM THE STATE OR, OR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THEN WE COULD ALWAYS, UH, SAY WE WANT AN ELECTRIC BUS AND WE COULD, WE COULD DO A BID AND, YOU KNOW, WE, WE COULD SEE IF WE COULD GET OUTSIDE MONEY, YOU KNOW, TO OFFSET SOME OF THE CO TO ON TOP OF THE COSTS THAT, THAT I HAVE, THE CAPITAL BUDGET IS NOT THE BIDDED ITEMS. SO I THINK WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, SUPERVISORS FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE COULD GET ADDITIONAL GRANT MONEY TO SUPPLEMENT OUR BUDGET.SO THAT IT YES, YOU'RE MY TRANSLATOR.
THIS PARTICULAR GRANT, I THINK IS A 50 50 GRANT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD STILL HAVE TO ALLOCATE SOME OF THAT MONEY, BUT IT MIGHT ENABLE US TO GET ADDITIONAL, YEAH.
MM-HMM,
SO WE'LL MEET TOMORROW AND THEN WE COULD CLEAN UP THE, UH, THE DOCUMENT.
WE COULD, SHE'S NOT IN TOMORROW.
IT'S A SHORT WEEK FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO WHAT ELSE DO WE NEED TO COVER HERE? WAS THIS IN THE, UH, IN THE LETTER THAT WE SENT, THE, WHEN YOU WERE GOT, WHEN YOU WERE HIRED, WAS THIS ONE OF THE WEEKS? NO, THAT'S IN TWO WEEKS.
I CAN ZOOM WITH YOU TOMORROW AFTERNOON.
WHAT? I JUST, I CAN DO A ZOOM WITH YOU TOMORROW AFTERNOON.
YOU HAVE A MOTION, PAUL? OKAY.
I MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR, FOR DISCUSSING LEGAL MATTERS.
SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE, RIGHT.
AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.