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GOOD AFTERNOON.WELCOME TO, UH, THE GREENBERG TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.
IT'S A LITTLE AFTER, UH, FIVE, UH, 30, AND, UM, WE'RE GONNA START THE MEETING, UM, WITH AN UPDATE ON NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE.
UM, UH, CHRIS GERARDO AND AARON, UM, HARWOOD WILL GIVE US A PRESENTATION.
LEMME SHUT OFF MY, UH, THANK YOU.
I'M, I'M CHRIS GERARDO, THE DEPUTY TOWN ENGINEER, AND, UH, MY NAME IS AARON HARWOOD, AND I'M AN ASSISTANT CIVIL ENGINEER.
UM, SO WE JUST WANTED TO QUICKLY GO OVER THIS, UH, PRESENTATION WITH YOU GUYS, AND THANKS AGAIN FOR LETTING US OR GIVING US THE TIME TO DO SO.
UM, I WAS THE LEAD ENGINEER FOR THE NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE SIDEWALK PROJECT, AND THAT WAS COMPLETED BACK IN TWO, UM, 2023.
UM, BUT SINCE THE COMPLETION OF THE PROJECT, WE RECEIVED SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, UM, REGARDING THE SCOPE AND THE BUDGET.
SO, UM, WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THAT HERE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.
I'M GONNA PUT, UM, THE PRESENTATION ON THE SCREEN.
UM, SO FIRST I'D LIKE TO GO OVER KIND OF OUR THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN LOOKING INTO SIDEWALK DESIGN.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF INSTALLING SIDEWALKS IS FIRST AND FOREMOST, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
UM, IN THIS CASE, OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE SAFE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO CENTRAL AVENUE, UM, FOR ALL RESIDENTS OF NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE.
AND OUR CONCEPTUAL PLAN WAS TO INSTALL A CONTINUOUS SIDEWALK ALL THE WAY FROM WEST HARVILLE AVENUE TO CENTRAL AVENUE.
UM, BUT WE REACHED SEVERAL OBSTACLES, AND ONE OF THEM BEING, UM, A LARGE ONE ROCK OUTCROPPING.
AND THE REMOVAL OF THAT ROCK OUTCROPPING WOULD'VE IMPACTED PROJECT, SCHEDULE, COST, AND SCHEDULE SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND I'LL GET MORE INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
UM, HERE SHOWS THE ROCK OUTCROPPING, UM, THAT KIND OF CAUSED THAT OBSTACLE.
UM, WHAT'S NOT REALLY SEEN HERE IS THERE'S A, UM, HOUSING AUTHORITY ON TOP OF THE ROCK AS WELL.
UM, SO A LOT OF ISSUES OR, UM, OBSTACLES WOULD'VE CAME INTO REMOVING THIS OUTCROPPING.
AND THAT LED TO OUR, UM, FURTHER DECISION, WHICH WAS TO, UM, LEAVE THAT OUT.
UM, SO RATHER THAN DELAY THE PROJECT FURTHER, UM, THE DECISION WAS MADE TO NOT INCLUDE EXCAVATION OF THE ROCK OUTCROPPING AND INSTALL THAT MIDDLE SECTION SIDEWALK.
AND JUST TO QUICKLY MITIGATE ANY HAZARDOUS WALKING CONDITIONS, THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN WAS TO REDU, UH, WAS REDUCED TO AVOID THAT OUTCROPPING.
SO WHAT WAS CONTRACTED WAS JUST TO PROVIDE SAFE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, UM, FOR ALL RESIDENCES TO CENTRAL AVENUE BY UTILIZING TWO SEPARATE SIDEWALK SECTIONS.
AND THEN AS A POTENTIAL FUTURE PHASE TWO, WE WOULD THEN ANALYZE THE ROCK OUT OUTCROP AND THEN SEE IF IT'S FEASIBLE TO CONNECT THAT, UM, TO THE TWO SECTIONS.
AND, UM, ULTIMATELY WE BELIEVE OUR ORIGINAL GOAL WAS MET.
UM, OUR ORIGINAL GOAL WAS TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL RESIDENTS OF NORTH WASHINGTON CAN, CAN WALK TOWARDS CENTRAL AVENUE, AND WE BELIEVE WE ACHIEVED THAT GOAL.
IF YOU GO LEFT TO GO RIGHT? YEP.
AND SO I'LL KIND OF GO OVER WHAT PAUL WAS SAYING JUST A SECOND AGO.
UM, THIS IS JUST AN OVERLAY OF, OR AN OVERVIEW OF THE NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE, UH, AREA AND THE FIGURES LABELED ONE AND TWO IS A SECTION FROM WEST HARTSDALE TO ELWOOD ROAD.
FIGURE THREE AND FOUR IS A SECTIONS THAT ARE FROM THE HIGHLANDS TO FOX GLEN DRIVE, WHICH THEN CONNECTS TO CENTRAL AVENUE.
UM, AND HERE WE CAN SEE THAT THE MIDDLE SECTION WHERE THE ROCK OUTCROPPING WASN'T, UM, PART OF THE CONTRACT.
AND WE GOT A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SCOPE OF THE PROJECT AND WHY THAT SECTION WASN'T DONE.
WE JUST WANNA KIND OF CLARIFY HERE THAT THAT WAS NEVER PART OF THE, UM, THE CONTRACT FOR THE CURRENT SIDEWALK OUT ON NORTH WASHINGTON.
AND AGAIN, JUST TO, JUST SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR, AND THAT WAS DUE TO THE ROCK? YES.
AND THAT, AND DO YOU KNOW WHY THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO COMPLETE THAT SECTION? IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE MORE DETAIL.
UM, SO IT WAS MAINLY BECAUSE THE GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEER OR ANALYSIS REQUIRED TO REMOVE THE OUTCROP WOULD'VE TAKEN A COUPLE OF MONTHS, AND IT WOULD ALSO INCREASE, UH, PROJECT COSTS SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND WE'LL GET INTO MORE OF THOSE NUMBERS LATER.
I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT.
SO WHEN WE WENT OUT, LIKE TO BID, UH, BECAUSE THE CONCERN THAT PEOPLE SAID IS WHEN WE WENT OUT TO BID, WE SAID, OH, WE'RE GONNA GO FROM ONE END TO THE OTHER.
UM, AND PEOPLE WERE SORT OF WONDERING IF THERE WAS LIKE A LOW BIDDER, AND THEN AFTER HE GOT THE, AFTER THE COMPANY GOT THE BID, THEY SAID, OH, BY THE WAY, WE CAN'T DO IT.
BUT THEY STILL, YOU, YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? PUT YOUR MIC ON THAT YOU GO AHEAD.
JU JUST TO BE CLEAR, SO IT, IT, IT DID
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NOT GO OUT TO BID WITH THAT MIDDLE SECTION INCLUDED.AND THEN IT WAS DETERMINED THAT WE COULD, THAT THE WORK WOULD'VE BEEN TO COST PROHIBITIVE.
THAT WAS DETERMINED BEFORE THE CONTRACT WENT OUT.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO GO BACK TO THE OTHER SLIDE, THOSE, THIS IS ACTUALLY AN OVERLAY OF THE CONTRACT DOCUMENT.
SO THE, THOSE THAT WAS, THAT'S A SNIPPET FROM THOSE ARE SNIPPETS FROM THE ACTUAL CONTRACT DRAWINGS.
TO MAKE IT CLEAR, AARON LAID THEM OVER THE, THE ACTUAL MAP OF THE ROAD, THAT MIDDLE SECTION WAS NEVER IN THE CONTRACT.
AND I THINK THAT REALLY, THAT REALLY ANSWERS THE QUESTION THAT'S BEEN ASKED, DOES ANSWER THE QUESTION.
SO JUST AS WE CLEAR, SO EVEN WHEN WE PUT OUT THE RFP, THAT PORTION WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RFP, CORRECT? CORRECT.
AND JUST TO FURTHER CLARIFY FROM WHAT WE JUST SAID, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE APPROVED CONTACT DRAWINGS.
YOU CAN SEE FIGURE ONE, TWO, UM, THREE AND FOUR.
THAT'S ALL THAT WAS IN THE CONTRACT.
AGAIN, OVERLAID ON THE NORTH WASHINGTON, UM, AVENUE AREA.
AND THEN FINALLY, JUST A FINAL FIGURE TO KIND OF SHOW YOU GUYS WHERE THE NEW SIDEWALK IS, WHERE THE EXISTING SIDEWALK IS, AND WHAT WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT BECAUSE OF THAT ROCK OUTCROPPING A QUESTION.
SO, UM, YEAH, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES.
SO, UM, WHY WASN'T IT INCLUDED IN THE RFP TO SEE IF, UH, THE VARIOUS BIDDERS COULD HAVE COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF CREATIVE WAY AS TO HOW TO APPROACH THAT? UM, OR DID YOU DETERMINE IT WAS SIMPLY NOT FEASIBLE BEFORE SENDING THAT OUT? SENDING IT OUT? UM, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ANYONE'S GOOD BEEN ON THIS GOOD PRETTY EXPERIENCE WITH, UH, HOW TO AVOID CERTAIN, YOU KNOW, HOW TO DEAL WITH CERTAIN OBSTACLES LIKE A ROCK OUTCROPPING.
THE REALLY, THE, THE O THE ONLY WAY TO, TO DEAL WITH THAT ROCK OUTCROPPING IS TO CUT IT OUT.
THE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH SPACE, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH WIDTH AND THE ROAD TO, TO, TO OFFSET THE ROAD AND, AND OFFSET THE SIDEWALK.
AND MM-HMM,
AND, AND AS AARON MENTIONED, THERE'S, THERE'S HOMES YOU COULD SEE, RIGHT? UNLIKE THE, THE WAS OF, OF NORTH WASHINGTON, THERE'S HOMES THERE THAT WE, WE, WE DIDN'T WANNA UNDERMINE.
AND, AND SOMETHING THAT AARON WILL GET INTO LATER IS PART OF THAT DECISION MAKING PROCESS IS THAT THE, THE, LIKE, AS, AS HE MENTIONED EARLIER, THE, THE GOAL IS, IS SAFE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS AND A, ANY, ANY, ANY SAVINGS THAT WE HAVE HERE.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S A POT OF MONEY IN OUR CAPITAL BUDGETS, AND IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S MONEY LEFT OVER THAT CAN GO TO OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS THAT DON'T HAVE ANY SIDEWALKS.
AND, AND AARON WILL GET TO THAT LATER, BUT THAT, THAT'S A BIG PART OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS.
WE HAVE TO PRIORITIZE SAFETY OVER CONVENIENCE.
AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO ADD IS WE JUST WANTED TO, UH, BUILD A SIDEWALK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO INSTEAD OF WAITING AROUND FOR THAT GEOTECHNICAL ANALYSIS OR WHATEVER WE WANTED TO BUILD, UM, WHERE YOU SEE NEW SIDEWALK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE SO THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, PEOPLE FROM THE HIGHLANDS CAN WALK TO CENTRAL AVENUE, OR PEOPLE FROM THE ELMWOOD, UM, HOUSING AUTHORITY CAN WALK TOWARDS CENTRAL AVENUE.
SO THERE WAS WAYS FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THE CENTRAL CENTRAL AVENUE WITHOUT HAVING TO WAIT FOR US.
UM, GETTING THAT, UH, GEOTECHNICAL ENGINEER.
AND DO WE, UM, EVER MAKE RESIDENTS WHO WOULD BE PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THIS SECTION OF SIDEWALK AWARE THAT THIS COULD NOT HAPPEN? SO WE DID HAVE A MEETING, UM, WITH A COUPLE OF RESIDENTS LETTING THEM KNOW THAT IT WOULDN'T HAPPEN.
BUT WE ALSO WANT TO CLARIFY THAT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, I GUESS, A PRIORITY ON OUR LIST.
AND I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT.
HOW, HOW EXPENSIVE WOULD IT BE IF, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THE BOARD SAID, OH, YOU KNOW, WE'LL SPEND THE MONEY TO FINISH IT.
WHAT, WHY WOULD BE A, A ROUGH ESTIMATE OF A COST? WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE HAVE SLIDES FOR THAT.
SO I'LL, I'LL GET INTO THAT IN A LITTLE BIT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, PAUL.
BUT I, BUT I'M NOT SAYING THAT COST WASN'T AN ISSUE, BUT IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, I THINK YOU SAID IT A COUPLE OF TIMES, THAT YOU WERE CONCERNED ABOUT UNDERMINING THE HOMES IN THE AREA.
IS THAT OKAY? IS IT, UH, PART OF THE ISSUE THAT'S ISSUE THAT WOULD'VE ALL BEEN PART OF THE, THE STUDY THAT WOULD'VE COST TIME AND MONEY? CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT FOR PEOPLE? WHAT YOU MEAN BY UNDERMINING THE HOMES AND HOW YOU, YOU STATED THAT IT WAS CLOSE AND, BUT I THINK IT'S JUST GIVING MORE OF AN EXPLANATION CLARITY MIGHT BE HELPFUL.
UM, SO AS PART OF THE, THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES HAVE FOUNDATIONS, OF COURSE, SO WE DIDN'T WANT TO CHIP OR BLAST AWAY OR AT THE ROCK AND END UP, UM, AFFECTING THEIR FOUNDATIONS OR ANY PARTS OF THEIR HOMES IN ANY MANNER.
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'CAUSE UM, ANY OF SEISMIC ACTIVITY COULD, YOU KNOW, CAUSE ISSUES FOR THOSE PEOPLE.UM, SO THIS SLIDE, WHICH JUST QUICKLY SHOWS, UM, KIND OF THE COST OF SEVERAL ITEMS THAT WENT ABOVE THE CONTRACT AND SOME ITEMS THAT WENT BELOW.
UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU GUYS AN IDEA OF KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS WHEN PROJECTS, PROJECTS, UM, SOMETIMES CERTAIN ITEMS GO ABOVE SOME, SOME OF 'EM GO BELOW.
I MEAN, WE HAD A COUPLE CONCERNS ABOUT WHERE SOME OF THE MONEY WENT.
UM, SO FOR EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS RELOCATING, UM, AN EXISTING HYDRANT.
UM, WE NEVER ENDED UP DOING THAT BECAUSE OF, UH, SEVERAL REASONS.
BUT, UM, JUST TO KIND OF CLARIFY THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, THE HYDRANT WASN'T MOVED BECAUSE IT WOULD'VE REQUIRED US TO, UM, CUT WATER OFF TO CERTAIN SOME HOMES FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS.
AND, UM, INSTEAD OF DOING THAT, WE DECIDED TO CREATE AN ADDITIONAL OR ALTERNATE SIDEWALK CONFIGURATION SO THAT IT WOULDN'T NEED TO HAPPEN, OR WE'D NEED TO RELOCATE THE HYDRANT OR PREVENT, UM, RESIDENTS FROM USING THEIR WATER.
UM, SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY THAT PART, THAT ITEM WASN'T USED.
AND, UM, AND THIS CONTRACT, $50,000 WAS GIVEN FOR MISCELLANEOUS ADDITIONAL WORK, BUT ONLY 37,000 WAS SPENT.
UM, AGAIN, JUST 'CAUSE WE, UH, GIVE $50,000 DOESN'T MEAN ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SPENT.
SO IN TOTAL, UM, WE END UP SAVING $19,000.
AND AS CJ SAID BEFORE, UM, THAT MONEY JUST DOESN'T DISAPPEAR INTO THE, THERE WE USED IT FOR, UM, FUTURE SIDEWALK PROJECTS.
AND AGAIN, I JUST WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, FINALLY CLARIFY ANY CONSIDERATIONS MADE FOR WHEN WE DE UM, DECIDE, UM, WHAT AREAS NEED SIDEWALK.
AND AGAIN, OUR MAJOR CONCERN IS, UH, SAFETY PER, UM, PEDESTRIANS AND SOME AREAS ARE OBVIOUSLY MORE HAZARDOUS THAN OTHERS, AND WE DETERMINE HAZARDOUS BY, UM, DEFINITIONS LIKE HIGH FOOT TRAFFIC, UM, OR, UH, DANGEROUS ROAD, SUCH AS, UM, SPEEDING.
UM, SO THE ADDITIONAL COST ABOVE A TYPICAL SIDEWALK INSTALLATION FOR THAT MIDDLE SECTION THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN NORTH WASHINGTON IS ROUGHLY $150,000.
UM, THAT INCLUDES GEOTECHNICAL ANALYSIS, BORINGS, OR ANY OTHER ADDITIONAL ROCK EXCAVATION.
AND JUST BASED ON THAT COST ESTIMATE, THAT'S ROUGHLY EQUIVALENT TO 400 OR 500 FEET OF SIDEWALK AND OTHER HIGH HAZARD AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE SIDEWALK AT ALL, OR DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR ACCESS, UM, TO MAJOR ROADS.
UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK WE KIND OF COMPLETED THAT, OR WE REACHED OUR GOAL FOR NORTH WASHINGTON BY, UM, ALLOWING RESIDENTS TO WALK TO CENTRAL AVENUE, EVEN IF IT MAY NOT BE CONVENIENT FOR CERTAIN PEOPLE OR CERTAIN, UM, WALKING PATHS AT THE, AT THE VERY LEAST, THEY DO HAVE, UM, A SAFE ACCESS TO CENTRAL AVENUE, MEANWHILE, OTHER AREAS DON'T.
AND I JUST WANNA QUICKLY GO OVER A COUPLE AREAS THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING LOOKING INTO FOR SIDEWALKS.
UM, ONE OF 'EM BEING THE LEY ROAD AND FORT HILL ROAD INTERSECTION.
UM, THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM AREA FOR QUITE A BIT, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S ADDRESSED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND ESPECIALLY NEAR THE PLAYGROUND, AGAIN, WE WANT, UM, SAFE ACCESS FOR CHILDREN OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER, TO WALK TO THE PARK, WHICH WAS, UM, NEWLY REFURBISHED NOT TOO LONG AGO.
UM, AGAIN, ON VIRGINIA ROAD IS AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THERE, AND THERE'S ONLY A, UM, A SMALL LANDING.
SO WE WANT TO KIND OF EXPAND THAT SIDEWALK AND ALLOW PEOPLE TO WALK AND ACCESS, UM, ALL THE SHOPPING MALLS AND, UM, EVERYTHING ELSE DOWN, UH, SOUTH.
AND AGAIN, ROAN BROOK PARK, NO SIDEWALKS OVER HERE, BUT WE WANT PEOPLE, UM, ANY PARKS OR, UH, ANY OF THE SHOPPING AREAS, UM, NEAR THIS AREA, THE ROAN BROOK PARK, UH, IS ALSO SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE, UH, THE BOARD APPROVED THE, THE LIGHTING.
SO PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE, UM, USING THE PARK IN THE EVENING RIGHT.
SO, UM, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S MORE CRUCIAL.
I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE MAKE IT AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE SO PEOPLE ARE WALKING AT NIGHT, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD BE SAFE.
SO THAT, AND THAT WILL REQUIRE ALSO WORKING WITH THE STATE ON THAT.
UM, I WANNA THANK, I WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.
I ALSO THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER ONE THAT I REALLY FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IS OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD, UM, FROM, UH, LIKE COUNTY
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CENTER ROAD TO THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY.AND, UM, THERE'S NO CROSSWALK.
YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY DANGEROUS.
I, I JUST FEEL IT'S VERY DANGEROUS AND I SEE OTHER BICYCLISTS AND PEDESTRIANS WALKING, AND THE LACK OF A CROSSWALK DRIVES ME CRAZY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S DEFINITELY GONNA GET KILLED SOONER OR LATER THERE.
NO, BECAUSE IT'S JUST REALLY DANGEROUS.
AND I NOTICED EVEN ON VIRGINIA ROAD, YOU KNOW, THE VIRGINIA ROAD CROSSWALK, UM, THAT ACCESS THE, YOU KNOW, BRONX, BRONX RIVER PARKWAY PATHWAY, UM, THE CROSSWALK DOESN'T, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU CROSS THE PARKWAY AND IT DOESN'T CONNECT RIGHT TO THE PARKWAY.
THEY, THEY SHOULD, THERE SHOULD BE LIKE A LITTLE, UH, SHORT BIKE, UH, PATH FROM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE CROSSING, BECAUSE WHEN I'M BIKING, I, YOU KNOW, I'M DOING THIS LIKE EVERY DAY PRACTICALLY, YOU KNOW, THE CARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY EASY TO GET HIT.
WE DEFINITELY LOOK INTO THOSE.
SO MAYBE YOU COULD, YOU, I REALIZE HOPE WE COULD LOOK AT THE, THE OLD TAROT TOWN ROAD.
UM, SO I WOULD JUST LIKE TO THANK YOU, AARON.
UM, UM, I ATTENDED, AS YOU ALL KNOW, I LIVE IN THE JUNIPER HILL AREA.
I ATTENDED THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, UM, MEETING, WELL NOT MEETING, UH, GET TOGETHER.
I THINK THAT WAS LAST SATURDAY DAYS OF RUNNING CLOSE TOGETHER.
AND THEY WERE VERY PLEASED AND VERY HAPPY WITH THE SIDEWALKS THEY RECEIVED ON JUNIPER HILL.
I DID, I WAS EXPRESSED NUMBER NUMEROUS TIMES THAT IT TOOK 10 YEARS, AND I DID EXPLAIN THAT WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT THE RIGHT PERSON ON DOING THE, THE JOB AND MAKING SURE THAT THE, UM, SIDEWALK CAME OUT AS IT NEEDED TO COME OUT AND HOW HARD YOU WORKED ON THAT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE SAW WHO YOU WERE.
SO I'LL MAKE SURE EVERYONE, UH, TUNES IN TO SEE WHO YOU ARE.
AND THEN AT THE NEXT MINUTE, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU BECAUSE THEY WERE VERY, VERY HAPPY TO HAVE RECEIVED THOSE SIDEWALKS.
AND THE HILLSIDE AVENUE SIDEWALK, I WAS ON IT A FEW DAYS AGO, UM, AND I WAS LIKE SO EXCITED.
THERE MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE 10 PEOPLE WALKING ON THE HILLSIDE AVENUE.
AND I JUST SAW PEOPLE, IT WAS LIKE, I COULDN'T EVEN BICYCLE PRACTICALLY.
IT WAS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT, THEY WERE JUST LINED UP AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY IS, IS EXCITING.
SO YOU DO, YOU'RE BOTH DOING A REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, REALLY GOOD JOB AND WE'RE REALLY LUCKY THE TOWN TO, UM, HAVE YOU, YOU KNOW, BOTH OF YOU ARE DOING BRIDGE AND I WAS, I I I WAS IN THE AREA AND SEVERAL RESIDENTS WERE, HAD EXPRESSED REAL JOY IN HAVING THAT.
AND, AND THEY NOT ONLY WERE HAPPY TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK, BUT AT HOW BEAUTIFULLY IT WAS DONE AND EXECUTED, WHICH WAS REALLY IMPORTANT, I GUESS.
ESPECIALLY THE WALL AND EVERYTHING.
THEY'RE VERY, YOU GUYS DID AMAZING WORK, SO THANK YOU.
ALRIGHT, DON'T WALK ON THE ROAD.
NEXT ON THE, OH, NEXT ON THE LIST IS, UM, THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS.
UH, THIS IS THE SECOND WEEK OF OUR BUDGET PRESENTATIONS, AND WE WILL, UM, WE'RE GONNA HEAR TODAY FROM THE LIBRARY, THE POLICE, AND THE MIS.
UM, WELL, THANK YOU FOR MEETING WITH ME.
UH, DO YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF YOUR BUDGET? TERRIFIC.
UM, I'M GONNA START OFF WITH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? DO YOU HAVE, CAN YOU JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF? I'M CHRISTINA LINDER.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF THE LIBRARY.
DO YOU HAVE, UM, A CAPITAL BUDGET ALSO REQUEST? THE CAPITAL BUDGET REALLY ROLLED INTO, UH, THE DPW.
THE ROOF NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, UM, THAT'S ABOUT IT.
UM, DO YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT WHAT THE ADDITIONS WERE TO BRING THE BUDGET NUMBERS UP? YES.
UH, THE ADDITIONS WERE TO THE SALARY LINE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY AND ADDING SECURITY.
UH, WE'VE ACTUALLY ADDED SECURITY.
THE, THE LIBRARY BOARD HAS APPROVED, UH, ALLIED SECURITY FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR, UM, FROM THE LIBRARY FUND BALANCE.
UM, WE HAVE A SECURITY GUARD NOW EVERY HOUR THE LIBRARY IS OPEN.
UM, IT'S, IT SEEMS TO BE WORK.
SO WE'RE, UH, WE'RE SEEING HOW THAT GOES.
UM, I THINK IT'S BEEN GOOD SO MUCH AS IT'S FREEING UP THE TIME.
THE LIBRARIANS HAD BEEN SPENDING A LOT OF TIME POLICING CERTAIN THINGS EVERY DAY.
IT WAS A CONSTANT, YOU KNOW, DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BE HAVING THIS HERE, OR YOU NEED TO FIND YOUR CAREGIVER.
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THINGS THAT WERE, UM, TAKING TIME AWAY FROM THE LIBRARIANS DOING THE JOBS THAT THEY, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.AND THIS NEW SECURITY GUARD HAS REALLY BEEN HELPFUL.
HE HAS A SECURITY MANUAL, HE HAS ALL OUR POLICIES.
HE'S JUST REALLY UPHOLDING THOSE POLICIES.
I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOTHING THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN DOING, BUT IT'S JUST SOMEBODY ELSE, ANOTHER PRESENCE THERE, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN HELPFUL.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO CONTINUE THAT INTO THE NEW YEAR.
UM, I AM LOOKING INTO OTHER ALTERNATIVES, NOT JUST ALLIED SECURITY.
WE, UH, I'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS WITH DPW.
WE'RE LOOKING TO ALSO, UM, LOOK INTO PART-TIME OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS TO BE ON STAFF.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S INCLUDED IN THE SALARIES LINE.
THE, THE INCREASE, HOWEVER, IS THIS, UH, IT SAYS PART-TIME.
IS THAT THE PART-TIME IS FOR SECURITY, I THINK.
I THINK THE PART-TIME, IT'S GONNA BE IN, IN THAT, IN THAT LINE THERE.
UM, BUT OVERALL THERE WAS, IT WAS ALSO ADDED IN THE, THE, WE CAN MOVE THAT FROM THE, UH, FULL-TIME LINE.
I HAD ADDED IT IN, I HAD ADDED THE POSITIONS IN, YEAH.
SO I WASN'T REALLY SURE HOW TO DO THAT.
SO IT CAN GET FLIPPED INTO THE PART-TIME LINE.
SO THERE, SO BASICALLY THE PART-TIME, NORMAL PART-TIME IS 178,000.
SO YOU BASICALLY ARE SAYING 20,000 FOR BASICALLY SECURITY.
THE, THE SECURITY IS ACTUALLY IN THE FULL TIMELINE.
THE PART-TIME LINE IS BECAUSE WE JUST NEED MORE PART-TIME HOURS.
THAT'S, THAT'S OUR ONE CLARITY.
AND SO THE FULL TIMELINE, HOWEVER, LOOKING AT, AT, AT, AT THE BUDGET ITSELF, I DID PUT IT IN THE FULL TIMELINE, BUT IT CAN MOVE OUT OF THERE.
SO BASICALLY THIS INCREASE, SO HOW WOULD THAT BE THEN? WHAT WOULD THE INCREASED BE? ABOUT 200,000.
IT WAS LOOKING, WE'RE LOOKING AT ABOUT THREE, THREE OFFICERS OR THREE SECURITY OFFICERS.
30 TO $40 AN HOUR IS THE GOING RATE.
UM, BUT THROUGH CIVIL SERVICE, I'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH CIVIL SERVICE AND TALKED ABOUT LGA THREES AND WHAT THAT POSITION REALLY LOOKS LIKE.
UM, I'VE ALSO TALKED WITH PEGGY AT, UH, OR PEGGY TAGLIA.
AND WE ARE TALKING ABOUT MEETING UP WITH FRANK OVER AT CIVIL SERVICE TO REALLY DEFINE THIS, BECAUSE THERE'S NOBODY THAT HAS SECURITY OFFICERS, UH, OF THIS NATURE IN LIBRARIES AT THE MOMENT.
UH, SCHOOL DISTRICTS HAVE THEM, BUT THE LIBRARIES THEMSELVES DON'T.
UH, THE ONLY OTHER SECURITY, UH, GUARDS THAT I DO KNOW THAT ARE ON STAFF CAME, UH, I HAD GOTTEN SOME INFORMATION FROM FINKELSTEIN LIBRARY.
THEY HAVE THEM WITHIN THEIR CONTRACT.
THEY MAKE ALSO ABOUT 30 TO $40 AN HOUR ON, ON THAT SIDE AS WELL.
SO THAT'S KIND OF ROUGHLY WHERE THE ESTIMATE COMES FROM FOR THIS.
SO THAT TRULY IS THE BIGGEST INCREASE.
PLUS THE PERCENTAGE THAT INCREASES ALSO THE PERCENTAGE OF THE CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, THE COLA YEAH, THE COLA, IT'S A SECURITY SERVICE IS 5,000.
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, WELL, THE SECURITY SERVICE IS THERE, THE 5,000 IS ONLY FOR OUR SECURITY CAMERAS AND THE SOFTWARE.
SO WE HAVE SECURITY CAMERAS, WE HAVE, WE'RE HOPING TO GET MORE AT THIS POINT.
WE'VE BEEN, UM, SOMEONE'S COMING IN TO GIVE A QUOTE.
THEY HAVEN'T GIVEN THE QUOTE YET.
THEY'VE COME TO ASSESS THE BUILDING TO SEE WHERE ELSE WE NEED THOSE CAMERAS A LOT ON THE OUTSIDE.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT A LOT TO, TO, TO REALLY LOOK ON THE OUTSIDE, ESPECIALLY WHERE THE DUMPSTERS ARE.
AND THAT BACK AREA THAT'S PRETTY BLIND.
UM, AND THEN THE PA SYSTEM ALSO, WHICH IS SECURITY MEASURES, BUT THAT WAS IN THIS YEAR'S CAPITAL BUDGET.
SO THAT'S KIND OF ROLLED INTO THAT.
BUT OF COURSE THAT THOSE SECURITY SERVICE AND WHAT HAVE YOU, THOSE ARE CON LIKE CONTRACTED SERVICES.
LIKE IF YOU LOOK AT THE SERVICE CONTRACTS, THERE'S A BIT OF AN INCREASE THERE AS WELL.
WLS, WHICH IS THE WESTCHESTER LIBRARY SYSTEM.
THEY, MY COST FOR MY COST, THE LIBRARY'S COST FOR THE CATALOG WENT UP 7,000, 7007% FOR NEXT YEAR.
THOSE ARE THE CON NOT SECURITY, BUT THOSE ARE THE SERVICE CONTRACTS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP THE LIBRARY RUNNING.
SO THOSE ARE THE BIGGEST AREAS OF, YOU KEEP ME TOO, BUT I KEEP TRYING TO FIND, MAKING MY DOC.
COULD YOU, UH, COULD YOU ELABORATE AGAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE ON WHY WE NEED, UM, YOU KNOW, SAY 20,000 MORE FOR THE PART-TIME, YOU KNOW, POSITIONS THAN WE HAVE LAST YEAR? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE REASON WE ONLY HAVE 22 FULL-TIME STAFF MEMBERS.
WHEN THE FOLKS HAVE BEEN WITH THE LIBRARY OR WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG A LONG, LONG TIME.
THERE'S A LOT OF VACATIONS, THERE'S A LOT OF SICK TIME AND THERE'S A LOT OF, UM, COVERAGE THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
AND WE DO IT WITH A VERY, VERY MINIMAL AMOUNT OF PART-TIME
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STAFF.WE DON'T EVEN HAVE PAGES TO PAGE THE BOOKS EVERY HOUR THAT WE'RE OPEN.
HOWEVER, I CAN SEE THAT, UM, GOING FORWARD AS WELL.
I'D LIKE TO BE OPEN A THIRD NIGHT TOO.
AND WE CAN'T GET THERE WITHOUT INCREASING THE STAFF.
WE'RE A SERVICE IN, WE ARE A SERVICE.
WHAT, SO THE, UH, THE THIRD NIGHT, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME WE WERE OPEN? THIRD NIGHT? I THINK BACK IN 2009 MAYBE.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY INSTITUTIONAL MEMORY OF THAT? I'M NOT REALLY SURE.
IT MAY HAVE BEEN BEFORE THE LIBRARY WAS, UH, OPEN.
THE NEW BUILDING WAS OPEN, BUT IT'S BEEN, IT'S NOT SINCE I'VE BEEN THERE.
I THINK JEANNIE TDA MAY HAVE BEEN, MIGHT'VE BEEN THE DIRECTOR AT THE TIME.
SO, SO THE $20,000 WOULD COVER A THIRD NIGHT.
WE'RE GONNA SEE HOW THAT GOES.
THE $20,000 OR $20,000 IS JUST TO HELP BOOST THAT.
THEY'RE ALSO THE PART-TIMERS ALSO GET AN INCREASE TOO.
YOU KNOW, THEIR COLA, WE GIVE THEM A COST OF LIVING RAISE AS, AS WELL.
SO THOSE INCREASES JUST KEEP GOING UP EACH YEAR.
ONE OF THE, UH, THE QUESTIONS I HAD, SORRY, THAT I'M ASKING, UM, IS, UM, THE GREENBURG LIBRARY IS REALLY A REGIONAL LIBRARY.
SO A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN GREENBURG USE IT.
IS THERE ANY CHANCE IF WE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE OPEN OUR OPEN MORE EVENING HOURS, WE COULD GET FUNDING FROM EITHER THE COUNTY OR THE WESTCHESTER LIBRARY SYSTEM? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I SORT OF THINK IT'S SORT OF LIKE A LITTLE BIT UNFAIR THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE BASICALLY THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT PAYING OUR TAXES, YOU KNOW, FOR THE LIBRARY SERVICES ARE USING THE LIBRARY.
AND, YOU KNOW, UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG IS BASICALLY PAYING EVERYTHING.
THAT IS, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
BUT I HAVE TO SAY, UM, YOU COULD ALSO TAKE IT AS A COMPLIMENT THAT SO MANY PEOPLE WANT TO BE AT THE GREENBERG PUBLIC LIBRARY.
AND A LOT OF THEM REALLY COME FROM OUR LITTLE, OUR TOWNS, OUR VILLAGE VILLAGES INCORPORATED VILLAGES.
SO, UM, AND IN EACH OF THOSE VILLAGES, FOR THE MOST PART, HAVE THEIR OWN LIBRARIES.
AND THEY MAY NOT BE AS HAPPY WITH THEM AS THEY ARE WITH THE GREENBERG PUBLIC LIBRARY.
UM, I THINK THAT WE OFFER A WHOLE LOT AND WE HAVE A LOT OF PROGRAMMING.
AND THAT'S KEY, THE PROGRAMMING THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR.
SO JUST AS MUCH AS THEY'RE COMPLIMENTING YOU ON YOUR SIDEWALKS, I GET A LOT OF COMPLIMENTS ON THE LIBRARY AS WELL.
SO, SO THE, THE PEOPLE COMING FROM THE VILLAGES REALLY ARE COMING FOR THE PROGRAMMING, NOT NECESSARILY FOR THE VOLUMES AND NOT SO MUCH FOR THE MATERIALS.
THEY CAN, THEY CAN CHECK OUT ANY, THEY CAN CHECK OUT ANYWHERE BECAUSE THEY CAN GET THE MENTOR LIBRARY LOANS.
SO THEY COULD BE USING TARRYTOWN AS JUST A PICKUP LOCATION, BUT THEN THEY'RE COMING TO THE GREENBURG PROGRAMS. WE ARE, I HAVE STATISTICS OF THOSE PROGRAMS, IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT.
I DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP YOU WANNA GO WITH ALL OF THIS.
UM, BECAUSE I REMEMBER AT ONE TIME WHEN WE HAD PROGRAMS, YOU HAD TO HAVE LIKE A GREENBERG LIBRARY CARD TO USE THE PROGRAMS. THAT WAS WHEN THERE WAS, UH, I THINK THERE WAS, THERE WAS ELMSFORD, RIGHT? SO ELMSFORD DECIDED TO CONTRACT WITH LEY, AND THEN THERE WAS A RESTRICTION THAT WAS PLACED ON IT.
UM, BASED OFF THE FACT THAT ELMSFORD FOLKS COULDN'T TECHNICALLY THEN USE THE GREENBERG LIBRARY.
IT'S VERY PUNITIVE AND IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO, TO CONTINUE TO DO.
UM, THERE ARE FOLKS THAT COME DOWN FROM THE APEX, YOU KNOW, THE APEX THAT'S RIGHT BEHIND THE LIBRARY, AND THEY COME TO GET THEIR LIBRARY CARD.
'CAUSE THEY'VE JUST MOVED IN AND WE'RE LIKE, NOPE, YOU HAVE TO GO TO ARDSLEY.
AND THEY'RE LIKE, WHAT? LIKE, THEY, THEY JUST DON'T GET IT.
THEY WEREN'T THERE WHEN THE DECISION WAS MADE.
UM, WHERE THAT VOTE OR WHATEVER HAPPENED, UM, WAS MADE YEARS AGO.
UM, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW COME THEY CAN'T GET THE MUSEUM PASSES OR THEY CAN'T GET THE ELECTRONICS.
'CAUSE THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE DO HAVE.
IT'S ONLY FOR GREENBURG PATRONS, BUT THEY CAN GET THAT FROM THE OTHER, THEY CAN GET THERE FROM THE ALEY LIBRARY.
THEY DON'T HAVE ARTLEY LIBRARY DOESN'T HAVE MUSEUM PASSES AS FAR AS I KNOW.
SO THEY COULD, I MEAN, ARTLEY LIBRARY COULD ADD THAT, BUT THAT'S NOT MY DECISION.
UM, SO IT'S JUST SOME STATISTICS.
UH, OUR PROGRAM ATTENDANCE SO FAR THIS YEAR, YEAR TO DATE IS 22,000 PEOPLE.
WE'VE HAD 862 PROGRAMS SO FAR THIS YEAR.
UM, WE ARE WELL ABOVE WHERE WE WERE IN 2019.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE PROGRAM ATTENDANCE AND, AND OUR BOUNCE BACK, IT'S BEEN PRETTY INCREDIBLE.
I THINK THE OTHER THING I JUST WANNA REALLY QUICKLY TOUCH ON TOO IS THE, UM, ONLINE, UH, ELECTRONIC MEDIA? OR NOT ELECTRONIC MEDIA, I'M SORRY.
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ELECTRONIC MEDIA.I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH HOW EBOOK EBOOKS WORK, BUT EBOOKS ARE A BIG PORTION OF OUR CIRCULATION.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, WHEN YOU GO TO BUY AN EBOOK FOR YOUR KINDLE FROM AMAZON, IT'S $14 AND 99 CENTS FOR THE LATEST JAMES PATTERSON.
THAT IS A HUGE, HUGE DIFFERENCE.
AND A LOT IN THE LIBRARY WORLD.
WE'RE FIGHTING, UM, TO, TO WIN THE BATTLE OF WHY THAT'S SUCH A DIFFERENCE IN WHY THE LIBRARIES ARE BEING FIGHTING LEGALLY FOR THAT FIGHTING LEGALLY.
THROUGH A LA, THROUGH A LA, UM, HELPING TO, TO TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE WOULD GET THOSE BOOKS, THAT BOOK WE PURCHASE.
IT'S 24 MONTHS ONLY, AND THEN IT GOES AWAY.
WHEREAS WHEN YOU BUY AN ACTUAL PHYSICAL COPY OR WHEN YOU BUY A COPY FOR YOUR AMAZON, YOU GET TO KEEP IT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S A REALLY LONG AND INVOLVED STORY.
AND WE ARE TETHERED TO THAT BECAUSE GOING BACK TO THE STATISTICS, UM, OUR EBOOK CIRCULATION, OUR EBOOK MEET 97,000 CHECKOUTS ALREADY THIS YEAR IN EBOOKS ALONE.
SO THAT'S A HUGE PORTION OF OUR BUSINESS.
SO, SO YOU SAID THE LIBRARY, SO WE HAVE TO CHARGE $75 THAT IT'S $75.
THE LIBRARY CHARGED $75 FOR THE BOOK TO HAVE ACCESS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WISH TO READ IT.
IT'S, IT'S FOR THE COPYRIGHT ACCESS TO CIRCUIT TO CIRCULATE IT.
SEE WHERE, WHEN YOU BUY A COPY, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CIRCULATE IT.
IF YOU NOTICE THERE'S RESTRICTIONS, YOU HAVE TO USE THE BOOK YOURSELF.
AND YOU, YOU'RE THE ONLY USER FOR US.
WE'RE CIRCULATING IT TO ALL THESE FOLKS.
SO THEY'RE CHARGING FOR THAT FEE, FOR THAT CIRCULATION, FOR THAT COPYRIGHT USE.
AND IT'S NOT FOREVER, LIKE WHEN YOU ACTUALLY BUY A BOOK, YOU COULD KEEP IT AS LONG, YOU KEEP IT A LONG TIME.
A BOOK LASTS MORE THAN TWO YEARS, PERHAPS.
SOMETIMES NOT, BUT IT LASTS A LONG TIME.
SO THERE IS A REAL BIG DISPARITY WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT IS.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR EBOOKS ALONE, AND THIS IS A HUGE PART OF WHAT PATRONS ARE COMING IN FOR.
THEIR PATRONS, WE DON'T SEE AT ALL.
THEY JUST HAVE A LIBRARY CARD AND THEY USE OUR, AND THEY, AND THEY HAVE A, THEY'RE USING OUR ELECTRONIC ONLINE RESOURCES.
SO WE'RE FORCED TO, I'M SORRY, JUST REALLY QUICKLY.
SO WE'RE FORCED TO USE THAT SERVICE.
'CAUSE I'M THINKING ABOUT, I HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION, I DON'T WANT TO PROMOTE ANYONE, BUT I HAVE THE SUBSCRIPTION.
SO IS THERE, DO WE CAN'T UTILIZE ANOTHER SOURCE TO GET BOOKS WHERE WE'RE NOT PAYING THAT AMOUNT? WELL, YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T.
IF YOU WANT THAT TITLE, IT'S, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE PUBLISHER, NOT THE SOURCE.
ITS THE PUBLISHER CONTROLLING THAT.
SO IT'S MCMILLAN AND UNDERSTOOD.
AND THE PUBLISHERS THEMSELVES.
'CAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE TWO PLATFORMS. WE HAVE MORE THAN ONE.
WE HAVE A PLATFORM WITH OVERDRIVE WITH LIBBY, WHICH IS EVERY, IT'S A CONSORTIA THAT'S SHARED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SOMETHING CALLED CLOUD LIBRARY, WHICH IS JUST FOR GREENBURG PATRONS.
SO IF YOU WANTED A COPY OF THE WOMEN OR SOMETHING, THAT'S THE HOTTEST TITLE, YOU'D BE ABLE TO GET IT PRETTY MUCH REALLY QUICKLY BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER SOURCE THAT WE, WE GET THOSE BOOKS FROM.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S FOR GREENBERG AND GREENBERG ALONE.
AND THIS IS, AND THEN NOBODY ELSE CAN USE THAT, BUT GREENBERG CARDHOLDERS.
AND THIS IS ALL FREE TO OUR, TO THE LIBRARY PATRONS.
THEY'RE THE TAXPAYERS OF THE GREENBERG UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG COMMUNITY.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE $75 PER BUT DON'T VERY MINIMAL AMOUNT.
BUT TO TAKE THE, TO RENT THEM.
THE, THE BOOK IS NOT, IF YOU, IF YOU USE THE LIBRARY, EVEN IF YOU CHECK OUT MAYBE 10 THINGS A YEAR, YOU'VE MADE BACK, TECHNICALLY MADE BACK YOUR MONEY IN TAXES.
BUT IF YOU DON'T USE THE LIBRARY, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING TOO.
I'M SURE THERE'S PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY THAT DON'T USE THE LIBRARY.
THEY HAVE THE OPTION TO, THEY'RE ALL OUR LIBRARY USERS.
EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE A CARD, I DON'T USE EVERY ROAD IN GREENBURG EITHER.
I'M SORRY, YOU HAD STATED A LA ACRONYM.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? OH, AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION.
THERE ARE, YEAH, I'M WONDERING, UM, IF MAYBE I COULD, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH YOU AND SET UP A MEETING WITH THE WESTCHESTER LIBRARY SYSTEM BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA ADD, YOU KNOW, EXTRA NIGHTS, EVERY RALLY SHOULD BE, UM, SOMETHING THAT MAYBE THE COUNTY OR THE LIBRARY SYSTEM SHOULD PROVIDE SOME SORT OF FINANCIAL HELP.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOW THE CONCERN ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF EDGEMONT INCORPORATING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE GOING TO
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COURT OR WHATEVER.SO IF WE'RE ADDING AN EXTRA NIGHT, UM, AND POTENTIALLY WE COULD LOSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA HAVE BUDGET ISSUES IF THEY, IF THEY BREAK, IF THEY BREAK, IF THEY DO BREAK AWAY.
SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE CONCERN I HAVE.
AND I, I'D FEEL BETTER IF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE COUNT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, FROM A REGIONAL STANDPOINT, WHY PLAINS COULD BE OPEN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF NIGHTS.
YOU KNOW, GREENBURG COULD BE OPEN DIFFERENT NIGHTS, YOU KNOW, SCARSDALE, BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE, MAYBE THERE COULD BE SOME COORDINATION.
HOW DOES THE FUNDING STREAM WORK WORK FOR THE LIBRARY SYSTEM? YEAH, IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT SO MUCH.
EACH LIBRARY IS PAID FOR BY THE COMMUNITY ITSELF, THE TAXPAYER.
SO IF THE TAXPAYERS OF, OF WHITE PLAINS WANT THEIR LIBRARY OPEN, YOU KNOW, 24 HOURS A DAY, THAT'S UP TO THEM.
DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY ARE OPEN IN THE EVENING? UH, ALL OF THEM.
THEY'RE OPEN MORE THAN WE ARE.
MAYBE, MAYBE YOU COULD GET THAT INFORMATION.
AND RIGHT NOW, LET ME BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT OPENING ANOTHER NIGHT YET BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER, UH, THERE'S CONTRACTUAL THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO DISCUSS.
THERE'S THE, YOU KNOW, THE UNION CONTRACT.
THERE, THERE ARE ISSUES THERE.
AND ALSO THERE WOULD BE A NEED FOR MORE PART, MORE FULL-TIMERS, NOT JUST PART-TIMERS, PERHAPS.
UH, THAT'S MORE INVESTIGATION HAS TO GO ON FROM THAT.
BUT RIGHT NOW I'M TRYING TO BUILD THAT UP WHERE WE HAVE THE SECURITY, WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE HELPING US AND SUPPORTING US TO DO MORE PROGRAMMING AND TO, AND TO DO A BETTER JOB.
RIGHT NOW TOO, EVEN OUTSIDE GROUPS, THEY ASK US, HEY, YOU KNOW, WE'D LIKE TO DO AN OUTSIDE MEETING.
YOU KNOW, HAVE A MEETING ON A MONDAY NIGHT.
WELL, WE'RE REAL, WE'RE NOT OPEN.
SO THOSE, THAT, THERE'S A LIMITATION THERE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE TO THAT, BUT ALSO UNDERSTANDING THAT THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE ARE, ARE USED VERY SPECIFICALLY AS YOU SEE HERE.
AND IN TERMS OF THE CURRENT FUND BALANCE, WHAT'S THE FUND BALANCE RIGHT NOW FOR THE LIBRARY? UM, IT'S A LITTLE LESS THIS YEAR BECAUSE WE'VE DIPPED INTO IT THREE TIMES.
WE DIPPED INTO IT FOR THE SECURITY CAMERAS.
WE DIPPED INTO IT FOR THE CANOPY, AND NOW WE DI DIPPED INTO IT A THIRD TIME FOR THE SECURITY.
SO IT'S, IT'S, DO YOU KNOW THE DOLLAR AMOUNT? IT WAS 20, ABOUT $20,000 FOR THE SECURITY CAMERAS? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH WE HAVE IN FUND BALANCE HAVE LEFT.
BUT IT'S, IT'S LESS THAN THAT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE OF THE MONEY THAT WE'VE SPENT THIS YEAR.
SO IT'S ABOUT 200,000 FOR THE CANOPY, 20,000 FOR THE, UM, FOR THE SECURITY CAMERAS.
AND ANOTHER 30,000 WAS APPROVED FOR THE SECURITY.
KIMBERLY, IN TERMS OF, I KNOW FOR THE TOWN WE NEED A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF FUND BALANCE FOR OUR, THE BOND RATINGS AND ALL THAT.
IS THIS LIKE A, IS THIS LIKE HIGH FOR A LIBRARY OR ABOUT WHERE WE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, FINANCIALLY, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF YOU HAVE $2 MILLION IN FUND BALANCE, COULD YOU USE SOME OF THE FUND BALANCE, YOU KNOW, BRING SOME OF THE FUND BALANCE DOWN TO SAY PAY FOR MORE, YOU KNOW, PROGRAM PROGRAMS OR DO YOU NEED TO KEEP THE 2 MILLION YOU, YOU WANTED, YOU, YOU WANNA KEEP THAT, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE LOOKING TO DO A ROOFING PROJECT SOON.
ALSO, I THINK FUN BALANCES REALLY ARE FOR THE RAINY DAY AND, YOU KNOW, BUILDING TYPE MAINTENANCE ISSUES.
UM, NOT USING IT FOR PROGRAMMING.
AND PROGRAMMING IS ONLY $25,000 IN THIS LINE.
SO ON THE SECOND PAGE, ON THE SECOND PAGE, YOU HAVE YOUR MEDICAL INSURANCE.
BUT IT WENT DOWN, SO I'M TRYING TO UNDER, IT WENT DOWN AND IT WENT DOWN CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR DENTAL INSURANCE WENT UP.
SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, AND THEN YOUR VISION CARE WENT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY.
SO CAN YOU GIVE US SOME INSIGHT ON THAT PLEASE? SO WE DON'T HAVE THE INCREASES YET ON THE MEDICAL AND DENTAL.
SO WHEN WE DO THE TENTATIVE, THOSE NUMBERS ARE GONNA CHANGE.
AND THEN, UH, THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE, YOU'RE INCREASING BY $50,000? WELL, MAYBE $40,000.
SO THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE IS A RATIO ALLOCATION BASED ON THE SALARIES.
AND WE ARE LOOKING INTO HOW THAT'S BEEN CALCULATED IN THE PAST AND, UM, MAYBE CONSIDERING A DIFFERENT METHODOLOGY.
SO THAT NUMBER IS ALSO SUBJECT TO CHANGE.
WOULDN'T THE BUILDING MAINTENANCE, CAN THAT BE REALLY IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET RATHER THAN THE OPERATING? NO, NO.
ARE YOU, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE BUILDING MAINTENANCE, LIKE CLEANING, MAINTENANCE, STUFF LIKE THAT CLEAN MAINTENANCE OF THE BUILDING.
AND, AND, AND OUR MAINTENANCE CREW IS, IS VERY GOOD.
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THEY'RE EXCELLENT.AND THAT'S, WE WERE DISCUSSING IMPOSSIBLE, MOU.
SO YES, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, EACH YEAR, THIS WAS THE FIRST TIME I'VE SEEN THESE ROUGH NUMBERS ACTUALLY BEFOREHAND.
'CAUSE I DON'T REALLY HAVE CONTROL ANY OF THE, UH, ANY OF THAT.
UM, BUT WE HAD BEEN DISCUSSING AN MOU AND, AND UNDERSTANDING OF LIKE, REALLY WHAT ARE THOSE SERVICES BROKEN DOWN AND THEN SEEING THAT PRICE TAG NEXT TO THEM AND, AND ESTIMATING IN THE NEXT YEAR.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING YOU MIGHT SEE IN IT IN THE WEEKS TO COME.
COUNCILMAN HABER HAS A QUESTION.
SO, UH, KIMBERLY, HAVE YOU ASSESSED, UM, THE FUND BALANCE, UM, AS BEING, HAVE THE RIGHT AMOUNT? UH, UH, IN TERMS OF NOT TOO LOW TO AFFECT OUR BOND RATING, BUT, UH, WITHIN THE, THE REALM OF NOT TOO MUCH CUSHION EITHER? SO THE LIBRARY IS ACTUALLY A COMPONENT OF US, AND THEY'RE NOT PART OF MAJOR GOVERNMENTAL, SO THEY'RE REALLY NOT GONNA IMPACT OUR RATING.
I'M NOT CONCERNED WITH THEIR FINE BALANCE.
THE LIBRARY ALSO IS UNIQUE BECAUSE ONCE WE GIVE YOU A BUDGET, YOU DON'T, AND THERE'S ALL THESE LINE ITEMS. YOU, YOU HAVE, THE LIBRARY BOARD HAS ABILITY OF MAKING CHANGES WITHOUT GOING TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO YOU, YOU, YOU, IT'S BASICALLY THE TOTAL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT RATHER THAN THE LINE ITEMS. AND, AND THE, THE LIBRARY BOARD, OF COURSE, MAKES THE DECISIONS TO USE THAT FUND BALANCE TO HELP THOSE PROJECTS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'VE, YEAH, THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE THIS YEAR.
UM, AND THEY WILL ALSO, ONCE THIS BUDGET IS SETTLED HERE, THEN THEY ACTUALLY APPROVE IT BEFORE IT GOES TO BE FINALIZED AS WELL.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.
I APPRECIATE EVERY TIME I GO TO THE LIBRARY, I'M IMPRESSED WITH HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE THERE.
AND ANY, ANY DAY, EVENING, WEEKEND.
AND HOW MUCH PROGRAMMING YOU DO, IT'S WONDERFUL.
I, WE, WE TRY, WE TRY TO DO IT, YOU KNOW, BUT WE ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM SPACE.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY LIMITED WITH THE AMOUNT OF ROOM SPACE THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAVE A VERY OPEN CONCEPT FLOOR PLAN AND THE BIGGEST ASK THE COMMUNITY IS ASKING FOR, THEY WANT PRIVATE MEETING ROOM SPACE.
SO THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY ACTUALLY ARE, UM, THEY HAD A VERY SUCCESSFUL SALE, AND I'M GONNA BE ASKING THEM TO HELP SUPPORT, UM, LIKE, UH, MEETING ROOM PODS.
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN THESE? UH, THEY'RE IN LIKE, UH, ACADEMIC LIBRARIES AND SUCH.
THEY'RE SOUNDPROOF BOOTHS, ROOMS HOLDING ABOUT SIX PEOPLE WITH TECHNOLOGY IN THEM.
AND THEY'RE FOR PRIVATE MEETING SPACE.
SO WE'RE LOOKING TO DO THAT IN THE NEW YEAR.
AND THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY, I'M GONNA BE ASKING THEM FOR THAT.
WHEN IS THE ENTRANCE WORK GONNA BE FINISHED? OH, THEY TELL ME NEXT WEEK, BUT I'M NOT SURE.
UM, WE ARE GETTING NEW GLASS DOORS ALSO.
THERE'S NEW SLIDING DOORS COMING, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN DELAYED.
SO I HOPEFULLY BY NOVEMBER KEEPING MY FINGERS CROSSED.
NEXT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE POLICE CAPTAIN.
I WAS LOOKING, I THOUGHT ONLY EVENING, AND THEN I FOUND THIS AND CHIEF CAPTAIN.
LET'S MAKE SURE YOU TURN THOSE ON BEFORE YOU START.
WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELVES PLEASE? CODY POWELL, CHIEF OF POLICE AND, UH, CAPTAIN DAN VALENTINE.
SO MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US SOME HIGHLIGHTS.
UH, I WAS JUST GONNA ASK REALLY WHERE YOU WANT TO START.
UH, WE'VE MET WITH THE CONTROLLER PREVIOUSLY AS WELL AS YOURSELF IF, ARE THERE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS? ARE THERE LIKE MAJOR CHANGES IN THE BUDGET, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HIGHLIGHT FROM, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS YEARS? NO, PRETTY MUCH.
UH, STILL ON TARGET WITH, UM, YEARS PAST, UM, WE HAD SOME REDUCTIONS IN SOME BUDGET LINES.
CAN YOU GO OVER THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE INDIVIDUAL, UM, BIGGER ADDITIONS, NOT THE SMALLER ONES, BUT BIGGER ADDITIONS LIKE SALARIES AND, AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOME PRETTY SUBSTANTIAL SALARY INCREASES.
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SO IF YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.YOU KNOW, OH, I GUESS THE SALARIES WOULD BE JUST CONTRACTUAL AND WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T SETTLED THE CONTRACTS YET.
THEY'RE BASED ON THE PREVIOUS, ON THE CURRENT, UM, CONTRACT.
AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, US MAINTAINING OUR MAXIMUM STAFFING, WHICH AS YOU KNOW, WE STRIVE TO DO.
BUT DUE TO RETIREMENTS AND THE AMOUNT OF TIME THAT IT TAKES TO TRAIN AND REPLACE PEOPLE, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THAT OPTIMAL LEVEL AT ALL TIMES.
I SHOULD, BUT UM, BUT WE HAVE TO PLAN FOR MAINTAINING IT.
I SHOULD PREFACE MY QUESTION THAT THIS IS, THIS IS A NEW MEANS OF, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE EVERYBODY IN THE INTEREST OF TRANSPARENCY, A BE BETTER IDEA OF WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS ARE.
UM, SOME OF THEM, AS THE POLICE CHIEF JUST EXPLAINED, ARE GUESSTIMATES BASED ON OTHER FACTORS.
BUT IT LEAST GIVES, UH, PEOPLE INSIGHT INTO THE PROCESS.
YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, I WAS READING AN ARTICLE, I THINK I SENT IT TO YOU MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO AGO, THAT SOME COMMUNITIES, UM, UH, THEY HAVE PART-TIME, YOU KNOW, OFFICERS, UH, THAT COULD ALSO FILL IN YOU BASICALLY, IF SOMEBODY RETIRES, LIKE TODAY, THERE'S ALWAYS A LAG BETWEEN, YOU KNOW, HIRING SOMEBODY FULL-TIME AND, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, THE TIME OF RETIREMENT.
AND DOES IT, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO USE LIKE PART-TIME? UH, YOU KNOW, OFFICERS, UM, WHAT I, WHAT I WILL SAY IS, AND I DIDN'T, UM, GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE IN THE EMAIL.
AND I KNOW SOMETIMES WHEN YOU GET IDEAS, YOU'RE EXCITED ABOUT THEM YEAH.
BUT YOU DON'T ALWAYS CONSIDER ALL THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CONSIDERED.
LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, THE FACT THAT OUR HIRING IS, IS THROUGH WESTCHESTER, YOU KNOW, THROUGH AND WITH, WITH WESTCHESTER COUNTY HR, THAT WE DO HAVE A PBA, WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT AND THAT WE OPERATE THE WAY WE DO AND HAVE BEEN FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
SO SOMETHING LIKE SWITCHING FROM FULL-TIMERS TO PART-TIMERS, YOU KNOW, CONSIDERATIONS FOR IF WE HAVE FULL-TIME OFFICERS OURSELVES THAT WANT TO WORK AS PART-TIME OFFICERS, OTHER PLACES, THERE ARE LEGAL CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND TALK ABOUT BEFORE THEY BECOME PART OF THIS DISCUSSION.
I WAS JUST SORT OF THINKING THAT MAYBE THERE COULD BE A RETIREE, EVEN A GREENBERG RETIREE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, I THINK THEY ARE ABLE TO MAKE LIKE $35,000, UM, IF THEY CONTINUE AFTER THEY RETIRE.
AND, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES AROUND, THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER BESIDES JUST THE DOLLAR.
I'M JUST, AND AND KEEP IN MIND IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THESE LINE ITEMS, THERE'S A HUGE REDUCTION IN MOTOR VEHICLES AND OTHER EQUIPMENT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE DIFFERENT OFFSETS AS WELL.
LIKE A, IS ANYTHING GLARING THAT, UH, OH, I'M SORRY.
CAN I, WELL, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THE POLICE SWAT, SO THE ONLY CHANGE WAS THE DRIVER.
THERE WAS, THERE WAS A DECREASE IN OTHER EQUIPMENT.
OTHER THAN THAT EVERYTHING IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE SEE IN THE PROJECTIONS FOR THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
SO LET ME, SO WHAT YOU HAVE HERE, THE TRAINING, RIGHT? SO YOU PUT IN HERE FOR $60,000, YOU PROJECTED NO, THAT'S THE WRONG ONE.
SO THEN YOU SAID THE ACTUAL IS 15.
WHAT? UM, I'M LOOKING AT SWAT, SO I'M LOOKING AT THE SWAT.
SO THE SWAT ACTUALS, THE 15, UM, THE PROJECTION WAS 65.
YOU DECREASED IT, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING WHY WE HAVEN'T SPENT SO MUCH OR IS IT ALLOCATED SOME PLACE? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND SOMETHING, SOMETHING SWITCHING OVER TO THE OTHER OH, OKAY.
I CAN GIVE YOU MY HARD COPY IF YOU WANNA SEE IT.
SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT SWAT? YEP.
AND SO I'M LOOKING AT TRAINING.
IT SAYS DEPARTMENT BUDGET 59 5.
THE ACTUALS WE SPENT WAS 15 EIGHT.
AND THEN YOU, AND THEN YOU HAVE A PROJECTED AT 65.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW COME WE WITH A DISCREPANCY? SO THE YEAR, THE YEAR BEFORE THERE WAS 55, SO THERE WAS A DROP.
YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A QUARTER LEFT, BUT THERE'S A DROP TO 15.
SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT RECORDED POSSIBLY YET, OR, UM, I'M JUST LOOKING TO SEE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES PURCHASE ORDERS WILL BE CREATED.
SO COULD BE, HASN'T ARRIVED YET.
SO I'M, I'M JUST, THERE COULD BE A POSSIBILITY.
THE PURCHASING SOFTWARE, IF ANYONE LOOKS LIKE THAT THEY, THAT,
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THAT'S GLARING.'CAUSE THEN YOU KNOW IT'S 15 AND THEN YOU HAVE A, YOU'RE ASKING FOR 59, SO WE NEED TO, YEAH.
SO, UM, WE HAVE FOR ALMOST $35,000 IN OPEN PURCHASE ORDERS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN CLOSED YET BECAUSE, UH, MOST LIKELY THE EQUIPMENT HASN'T BEEN RECEIVED.
SO WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PAGE INVOICES YET.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND.
DO YOU HAVE A CAPITAL BUDGET ALSO? BECAUSE WE'RE, WE WANT TO DO THE CAPITAL BUDGET IN OCTOBER.
I WANT TO HAVE THAT'S, UH, SO YOU HAVE ONE THAT YOU PRESENTED TO THE CONTROLLER.
SHE HAS ALREADY, I KNOW IT WAS EMAILED.
YES, THEY DID EMAIL A CAPITAL BUDGET.
SO, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT NOW WITH THE PROPOSED CAPITAL BUDGET? ALSO? I, I DIDN'T PRINT THE CAPITAL.
ARE THERE ANY, UH, YOU KNOW, MAJOR THINGS IN THE PROPOSED CAPITAL BUDGET? THE, THE VMS YOU ASKED FOR? I THINK THAT WAS IT JUST THE NORMAL REPLACEMENT OF PATROL VEHICLES AND YEP.
UH, I ALSO, I'M SENDING ALL THE MAYORS, UH, EVERYTHING THAT RELATES TO THE A BUDGET.
SO LOOKS OVER HERE FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET THAT THE, THE VILLAGES SHOULD ACTUALLY BE PLEASED.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S REDUCTIONS RATHER THAN INCREASES.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET THAT IMPACTS THE, A BUDGET THAT I COULD SHARE WITH THE MAYORS.
I WAS SPEAKING TO A FEW MAYORS OVER THE WEEKEND, SO THEY WERE APPRECIATIVE THAT WERE, WE'RE SHARING INFORMATION WITH THEM.
SHOULD BE AN INTERESTING TIME FOR ME.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT, COULD YOU MAYBE, UH, WHILE YOU'RE LOOKING, UM, IN TERMS OF THE COMMUNITY POLICING, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S LIKE THE, THE LEVELS COMPARED TO, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE'RE, UH, INCREASING THE COMMUNITY POLICING, WE, UM, WE'RE BACK UP TO, UM, CHIEF FOUR, OH, SORRY, THE MICROPHONE.
WE'RE BACK TO FOUR OFFICERS ASSIGNED TO THE UNIT AFTER BEING SOMEWHAT DEPLETED DUE TO RETIREMENTS AND INJURIES.
UM, LIEUTENANT POCITO WAS REPLACED LIEUTENANT HALL.
UM, A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE COME IN THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE EMAILS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THEY'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN.
AND THEY'RE GOING BACK TO THEIR REGULAR ROUTINE OF, YOU KNOW, THE, UM, CARNIVAL AND HARTSDALE TOBER FEST, THE, UM, THE UPCOMING HALLOWEEN PROGRAM AT THE, UM, COMMUNITY CENTER TO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, NOT TO MENTION RUNNING, UH, ESSENTIALLY RUNNING THE, THE YOUTH CAMP THIS SUMMER.
SO, UM, THEY'VE REALLY RESUMED THEIR NORMAL, UM, YOU KNOW, ACTIVITIES BEING UP TO THEIR REGULAR STAFFING.
ALSO, WE WERE ABLE TO PURCHASE SOME ELECTRIC BICYCLES, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO EMPLOY, YOU KNOW, USED BEFORE THE, UH, WEATHER REALLY STARTS CHANGING ON US.
UM, BUT THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY ONLY TO BE USED BY THE COMMUNITY POLICING OFFICERS.
WE ACTUALLY HAD THEM OUT AT THE, UH, HARTSDALE CARNIVAL AS WELL.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO JUST RETURN TO NORMALCY, ADDRESS THE THINGS THAT COME UP AS THEY COME UP AND BE PRESENT FOR AS MANY OF THE, YOU KNOW, TOWN FUNCTIONS AND CHANCE TO INTERACTIONS TO INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC THAT WE GET.
UH, CURRENTLY WE DON'T HAVE ANY CAPITAL REQUESTS FOR A LINE ITEMS. OKAY.
AND THEY DID A VERY GOOD JOB, UH, THE POLICE AT WOODLANDS TEMPLE ON ROSH HASHANAH.
UH, THERE'S LIKE FIVE OR SIX BUDGETS THAT WE HAVE.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE BLARING STUFF LIKE? I WENT THROUGH THE PAGES AND I WAS HIGHLIGHT, I WAS TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT EVERYTHING THAT'S BLARING.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING 'CAUSE ANY ANSWERS.
WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP THE NUMBER OF GLARING THINGS I DON DOWN.
DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING GLARING AT ALL.
UM, IF ANYTHING, THE GLARING REDUCTIONS, YOU KNOW, BUT I JUST SEE THAT.
WE DID MAKE SOME REDUCTIONS IN, IN, UH, THE POLICE BUDGET LINE.
UM, THE A LS LINE 8 45 40 HAD AN INCREASE IN SALARIES DUE TO THE, UH, CONTRACTUAL, THE NEW CONTRACT.
UM, THE ONLY OTHER, UH, SMALL INCREASES IN THAT BUDGET WAS FOR THE, THE MEDICATIONS FOR THE PARAMEDICS.
WE HAVE A DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENT NOW WHERE WE CAN'T RESTOCK CERTAIN MEDICATIONS
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AT THE HOSPITAL.SO WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO PURCHASE THEM OURSELVES AND THAT PRICE IS CONSTANTLY IN FLUX.
SO, UM, IT'S, THAT'S WHERE OUR INCREASE WAS IN THAT BUDGET.
BUT, BUT OVERALL, MOST OF THE BUDGETS HAVE BEEN DECREASED.
UM, THE ONE BUDGET LINE IN THE POLICE THAT WENT UP A LITTLE BIT WAS THE, UH, CANINE BUDGET BECAUSE WE NEED TO PURCHASE A BULLETPROOF VEST FOR THE DOG AS WELL AS A KENNEL FOR THE HANDLER'S RESIDENCE.
ISN'T IT THAT GRANT FUNDING WASN'T THAT GRANT FUNDING DIDN'T HAVE SOME CAN GRANT FUNDING YOU FUNDING TO PURCHASE THE VEHICLE? UH, FOR THE DOG AND EVERYTHING.
I REMEMBER THERE WAS SOME GRANT.
AND WE CONTINUE TO PURSUE THAT ANNUALLY.
WELL, THERE'S A, LIKE A HEALTH EMERGENCY AND WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, PARAMEDICS, THEY USUALLY GO TO THE HOSPITALS ALSO.
UH, YOU KNOW, THEY TRANSPORT THEM TO THE HOSPITALS ALSO DO I'M, SO I'M WONDERING, WOULD IT BE LESS EXPENSIVE IF YOU HAD LIKE NON-POLICE DOING THE TRANSPORTING? YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST THINKING OF THAT A FEW DAYS AGO.
ONCE SOMEONE'S UNDER OUR MEDICAL CARE, THEY'RE UNDER MEDICAL CARE AND THE HIGHEST LEVEL NECESSARY, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY THE LEVEL NECESSARY FOR THAT PERSON'S CARE.
IF IT'S A BROKEN ANKLE, AN EMT CAN, YOU KNOW, CHECK THE TRANSPORT.
IF SOMEONE'S IN CARDIAC ARREST OR HAVING A CARDIAC RESPIRATORY EMERGENCY, THEN IT NEEDS TO BE THE PARAMEDIC.
BUT ESSENTIALLY WHAT OUR SUPERVISORS DO, UM, WE HAVE AN MS SUPERVISOR, BUT ALSO THE POLICE OFFICER SUPERVISING ON THE ROAD.
THE IDEA IS TO SEND THE STAFF, YOU KNOW, THAT NEEDS TO GO WITH THE PATIENT AND KEEP, YOU KNOW, WHO AND WHAT WE CAN AVAILABLE DEPENDING UPON THE SITUATION.
AND THEY'RE CONSTANTLY, THEY GO TO THE CALLS WITH THE EMS PERSONNEL, THEY ASSESS WHO NEEDS TO DO WHAT, THEY MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN OPERATING.
UM, IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE CRIME STATISTICS, I KNOW IT FLUCTUATES, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, PERIODICALLY INTERNATIONALLY.
AND I'M SORT OF WONDERING, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
IS CRIME STILL ON A DOWNWARD, YOU KNOW, TREND OR ARE THERE, YOU KNOW WHAT, FOR US, VIOLENT IS DOWN, YOU KNOW, LARCENIES FRAUDS.
THOSE HAVE BEEN THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUES FOR THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.
BUT, UM, I WAS PREPARED FOR A BUDGET MEETING, SO.
UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, I THINK WE'RE DOING VERY GOOD.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING, HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
CAN YOU REMIND HIM? YES, MA'AM.
I LOOK FORWARD TO IT TOMORROW.
IS THAT YOUR COMPUTER? I HAVE A GOOD ONE.
SO THIS IS ALL, I GUESS THAT'S AN INTRODUCTION.
THIS I WANNA INTRODUCE IS A RATHER THAN, UH, THE B BUDGET.
SO, UH, I'M JUST MENTIONING THAT.
SO ARE THERE ANY MAJOR, UH, YOU KNOW, CHANGES? MY NAME IS PETER RAS.
I AM THE MANAGER OF MIS SLASH IT HERE AT TOWN.
UH, NO, THERE'S REALLY NO MAJOR INCREASES.
UH, THERE ARE IN SERVICE CONTRACTS, IT'S RISEN BECAUSE OF, UH, PRETTY MUCH OF INFLATION OF OUR CONTRACTS, UH, WE'RE, WE ARE EVALUATING PRETTY MUCH EVERY SOFTWARE SYSTEM WE HAVE.
UM, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO CONSOLIDATE THEM, BUT UNFORTUNATELY, THE PRICES, YOU KNOW, JUST ARE THERE AND THEY'RE GOING UP.
UM, OUR WEBSITE, WHICH IS RUN BY A COMPANY CALLED CIVIC PLUS, GAVE US A $12,000 INCREASE LATELY.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY IT, THE, THE PROBLEM IS SWITCHING COSTS.
YES, I COULD FIND ANOTHER VENDOR THAT MAY BE A LITTLE CHEAPER, BUT THE PROBLEM IS IT COSTS US EVEN MORE MONEY TO MAKE THE SWITCH.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT AS A, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT VALUE VERSUS ACTUAL OUTRIGHT COST.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF IMPLEMENTING A WORK ORDER PROGRAM FOR DBW.
THAT SHOULD BE DONE, HOPEFULLY AROUND THE FIRST OF THE YEAR.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY GONNA HELP A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, UH, DEPARTMENTS, NOT ONLY GBW.
SO WE'RE TAKING THAT ONE LITTLE PROJECT AND GONNA BE EXPANDING IT OUT TO THE ENTIRE TOWN, GETTING BETTER USE OF OUR MONEY THAT WE SPENT TO DO THAT WITH THAT ONE DEPARTMENT I SEE OVER HERE FOR SALARIES.
YEAH, THERE, THERE'S, I BELIEVE THERE'S AN ERROR WE ARE TRYING TO GET, AND THIS IS MY, UH, ERROR IN DOING THE BUDGET.
UH, WE'RE TRYING TO RECLASSIFY SOMEONE.
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I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MILAGROS ON THAT.SO I THINK WHAT HAPPENED WAS IT GOT, IT ADDED IN TWICE THIS, THIS PERSON'S OLD SALARY AS WELL AS THEIR NEW SALARY.
SO THERE IS A BIT OF AN INCREASE, BUT NOT, IT'S NEARLY SO LARGE AS NOT.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE, UH, AND THE OVERTIME? OVERTIME HAS BEEN ABOUT THE SAME.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE NOT, IT DOUBLED.
WELL, BECAUSE THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS 20 AND THEN THE, UH, ACTUALS WAS 10TH 11, CORRECT.
AND WE, WE, WE STILL USE O OVERTIME'S A DIFFICULT THING TO FORECAST FOR US BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE THIS, WE ACTUALLY HAD A PROBLEM THIS WEEKEND.
FORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, NOT MANY PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT.
UM, WE HAD TWO PEOPLE COME IN.
UM, THEY DID WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO.
YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER KNOW WHEN YOU'RE GONNA USE IT.
AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT AND YOU NEED IT, IT'S A BIG PROBLEM.
SO IT'S A BUDGET NUMBER THAT YOU ALWAYS PUT IN FOR SAFE SECURITY.
WE'RE GONNA COME MUCH CLOSER TO THAT 20,000 THAN WE ARE NOW.
WE HAVE SOME ONGOING, UH, PROJECTS THAT, THAT NEED PEOPLE HERE ON THE WEEKEND, UM, MM-HMM.
SO I THINK IT'S PRETTY MUCH IN LINE WHAT IT HAS IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
YESTERDAY, UH, YOU SENT US, UH, UH, A SHORT VIDEO OF ALL THE, UH, YEAR ACCOMPLISHMENTS OF THE CABLE, UH, YOU KNOW, STUDIO.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE REALLY DOING LIKE A FANTASTIC JOB.
I JUST WANTED TO COMPLIMENT YOU AND I WANTED TO COMPLIMENT CABLE TV COMPANY.
RIGHT? WELL, IT'S NOT ONLY THE, THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, BUT THE QUALITY OF THE VIDEO IS GREAT.
THEY REALLY, THEY'RE DOING, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY'RE DOING IS LIKE REALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE WORLD CLASS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING, UH, WHERE THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE GOING.
AND THESE SHORT VIDEOS OF, OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND EMPLOYEES WORKING REALLY GIVES EVERYBODY A BETTER APPRECIATION OF WHAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
UM, AND I FEEL OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AS THEY DO MORE AND MORE OF THESE, YEAH.
IT REAL, IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUDGET, YOU COULD SAY, LOOK AT THESE VI VIDEOS.
AND THE QUALITY OF THE WORK IS, IS EXCEPTIONAL.
THEY, THEY'RE A JOY TO WORK WITH.
WE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS THAT GO ON HERE IN TOWN GOVERNMENT.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY REACHING PEOPLE HAS BEEN DIFFICULT.
WE SEE THE NUMBER OF VIEWS WE HAVE, AND IT'S JUST NOT AS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT HITTING MILLIONS.
WE'RE NOT GOING VIRAL AS THEY WOULD SAY,
UM, BUT I THINK WE ARE GETTING THE WORD OUT.
I MEAN, I'VE LEARNED SO MUCH ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HAPPEN EVERY DAY THAT I HAD NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT WHOLE PAPER RECYCLING THING.
AND THE DANGER TO THE, TO THE GENTLEMEN WHO ARE WALKING ACROSS THE STREET ALL THE TIME, OR, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ON THAT NOBODY THINKS ABOUT.
AND I'M HOPING AS TIME GOES ON AND WE ARE, WE'RE SPENDING OUR RESOURCES ON THOSE SHORT, YOU KNOW, FIVE LESS THAN FIVE MINUTES, MORE LIKE TWO MINUTE VIDEOS.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE WAY PEOPLE CONSUME INFORMATION NOWADAYS.
SO THEY'LL, HOPEFULLY THEY'LL SEE IT IN THEIR YOUTUBE OR THEIR, UH, FACEBOOK FEED OR WHATEVER.
AND IF THEY WANT TO, THEN THEY OF COURSE CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE AND GET MORE INFORMATION, OR CALL US OR EMAIL US.
BUT, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING THAT TWO MINUTES OUT THERE.
AND I, I THINK, UH, TERRENCE AND JANELLE ARE DOING A GREAT JOB OF THAT.
THEY REALLY DO A TERRIFIC JOB.
ANYTHING ELSE, PETER? I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU BECAUSE YOU GAVE A MUCH BETTER EXPLANATION OF SERVICE CONTRACTS THAN I DID FOR MY BUDGET.
SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH IN DISCUSSING THAT.
UH, THE SERVICE CONTRACTS DID INCREASE, NOT BECAUSE WE, UM, IN ADDITION TO SEEKING OTHER, UH, PROGRAMS TO, UH, STREAMLINE SOME OF OUR SERVICES.
UM, BUT ALSO THAT EVEN WITHOUT US CHANGING, IT INCREASED MM-HMM.
AND WE DO HAVE SOME ISSUES TO, UH, ADDRESS, UH, FOILS BEING ONE OF 'EM.
WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE WORKING ON OUR TIME AND LEAD YES.
ACCOUNTING SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, TIME IN 10, HOW PEOPLE CLOCK IN.
THAT'S GONNA BE A HUGE PROJECT IN THE BEGINNING OF 2025.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF OTHER LITTLE THINGS AS WELL AS WE'RE TRYING TO USE NEW TECHNOLOGY AND, AND THINGS LIKE THAT TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, GET OUR WORD OUT.
SO WHO DO WE HAVE, UH, NEXT WEEK? THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT.
THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT, FOR BUDGET PRESENTATION.
I DON'T, I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE SCHEDULE.
SO THAT'S IF FOR THE PUBLIC PORTION OF THE MEETING, UH, UH, AGENDA.
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ASSESSMENT RELIEF ACT.BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH THIS IS, UM, THERE'S A FEW PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE LIVING ON BABBITT COURT, UH, KIMONA HANSON, UH, WHO, UH, THEY BASICALLY HAVE BEEN HOMELESS FOR, UM, FOR TWO, FOR SINCE 2021 AFTER, UM, AFTER HURRICANE IDA.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH EDIE, UM, ON LEGISLATION THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE TOWN WITH THE, THE TOWN BOARD, WITH THE OPTION OF REDUCING, UM, UH, THE TE PROPERTY TAXES RETROACTIVELY.
UM, IT PROBABLY WOULD HELP JUST A FEW PEOPLE.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A LOCAL OPTION, AND THE TOWN COULD SET, UH, WHATEVER CRITERIA WE WANT.
BUT IT PASSED THE STATE SENATE AND THE STATE ASSEMBLY.
UM, ANDREW STEWART COUSINS SPONSORED IT IN THE SENATE.
MARY JANE CHIMPSKY, UM, IN THE ASSEMBLY ANNOUNCED BEFORE THE GOVERNOR.
AND, UM, PER CHER, OUR LOBBYIST SUGGESTED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE REACH OUT, UM, AS A BOARD, UH, TO THE GOVERNOR ASKING HER TO SIGN IT.
AND WE ALSO REACH OUT TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES RIGHT.
TO GET THEM TO ALSO GENERATE LETTERS OF SUPPORT FOR THE LEGISLATION.
AND THIS IS TOTALLY OPTIONAL FOR ANY COMMUNITY.
SO PEOPLE COULD, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMUNITIES MAY NOT HAVE THE FLOODING PROBLEMS THAT WE'VE HAD.
AND, AND LIKE YOU SAID, IF A MUNICIPALITY DOES WANT TO OPT IN INTO THIS LOCAL OPTION, THEY CAN SET THEIR OWN CRITERIA.
SO INCLUDING MINIMUM DAMAGE, MAXIMUM DAMAGE, UM, WHEN THE EXEMPTION FORMS ARE DUE, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO IF WE HAVE DIFFERENT NEEDS THAN WHITE PLAINS OR VICE VERSA, YOU CAN COME UP WITH DIFFERENT CRITERIA, UM, WHICH I THINK IS AN APPROPRIATE WAY TO STRUCTURE A BILL LIKE THIS.
AND, UM, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ON THIS? I'VE REACHED OUT TO THE, UM, TOWN SUPERVISORS, AND I'M GONNA BE MEETING WITH 'EM.
UM, IS IT NEXT? MAYBE NEXT, I THINK NEXT WEEK OR THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
AND WHAT ABOUT MAYORS? I, I'VE SENT, I'VE SENT NOTES TO ALL THE MAYOR.
I HAVEN'T HEARD FROM THE MAYORS.
I HEARD FROM SOME OF THE TOWN SUPERVISORS.
AND WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING ON THIS.
AND YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT WHEN I GO TO THE MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS, UM, THEY'RE HAVING THE FUNCTION THURSDAY, I THOUGHT THAT, UH, MAYBE I'D BRING THIS UP AND JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, ASK THEM IF THEY WOULD SUPPORT THAT.
THAT I, I'M GLAD, UH, YOU REMINDED ME.
UH, ARE WE DONE? WERE YOU DONE? YEAH, I'M DONE.
IF I COULD JUST ASK, UH, TERRANCE, UH, FROM CABLE TO COME OUT PLEASE.
SO, JUST WANT TO, AS HE'S COMING, WE JUST WANT TO TALK ABOUT TOMORROW'S FLAG RAISING.
THERE IS A CONCERN HE BROUGHT UP WITH US.
WELL, JUST, THE CAMERA'S JUST GONNA BE ON YOU THE WHOLE TIME, JUST SO YOU KNOW.
AS LONG AS THEY HEAR YOUR VOICE.
IT JUST, IT JUST, AND JUST, UM, OKAY.
SO TERRANCE CAME TO, UM, MYSELF EARLY TO EXPLAIN, TO EXPRESS SOME CONCERN WHEN WE DO THE FLAG RAISING FOR TOMORROW.
UM, IT'S SCHEDULED FOR 7:00 PM YEAH.
HOWEVER, IT'S GOING TO BE DARK.
YOU CAN SEE, I MEAN, IT'S ALREADY SO DARK.
IT'S JUST GONNA BE JUST NOT GONNA LOOK GOOD.
WE WERE THINKING OF JUST TAKING A PICTURE OF, YOU KNOW, IN THE DAYTIME AND USE THAT AS LIKE THE YOUTUBE THUMBNAIL AND JUST CLIP OUT THE ENTIRE CELEBRATION INSIDE AND JUST USE THAT PHOTO AS LIKE THE THUMBNAIL.
DIDN'T WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT LAST YEAR? YEAH.
'CAUSE THERE WERE, IT WAS IN JUNE, WE DIDN'T EVEN DO THE FLAG.
WELL, THE, THE PUERTO RICAN FLAG RAISING LAST YEAR DIDN'T HAPPEN BECAUSE IT WAS TOO BIG THE FLAG.
BUT THERE WERE SOME OTHER ISSUES.
IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ANOTHER CEREMONY FLAG RAISING THAT.
THERE'S NO INTERNET OUT THERE.
SO WHEN WE DID IT AS PART OF THE MEETING, YOU COULDN'T SEE ANYTHING.
'CAUSE THERE'S JUST SUCH, SUCH BAD QUALITY.
WE HAVE THE FLAGG, RIGHT? WE DID THE FLAGG.
I THINK, I DON'T KNOW PAUL JOY KIND OF, I DON'T KNOW PAUL, HOW WOULD HAVE NO, NO.
WHAT SO FOR THE FLAG RAISING OUTSIDE, THAT'S, UM, THE PUERTO RICAN FLAG RAISING BEING DONE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
THAT'S WITH, UM, EVELYN SANTIAGO, I BELIEVE.
SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE THE CONCERN.
SO THAT'S HOW WE'RE KEEPING IT FOR THIS YEAR.
HOWEVER, THE CONCERN IS, TERRANCE CONCERN IS, IS THAT IT'S GOING TO BE TOO DARK.
SO WHAT TERRANCE IS ASKING IS THAT WE TAKE A PICTURE OF IT AND THEN HE FOLDS IT IN WITH
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THE CEREMONY FOR YES.SO PLEASE, I DON'T KNOW IF I YEAH, WE CAN'T MANIPULATE THE MEETING, WHICH WE'RE NOT GONNA DO.
WE'RE JUST GONNA USE THAT PHOTO.
AS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE PROMOTION OF THE VIDEO, I'M NOT GONNA GIVE JUST A ONE ANSWER.
SO I WANT EVERYONE TO WEIGH IN ON THAT.
AND IS EVERYONE OKAY WITH THAT? YEAH.
WE DON'T BELIEVE IN FAKE NEWS,
SO SHALL WE COUNCILWOMAN? YOU'RE FINE WITH IT, SUPERVISOR.
I'M GOING ALONG WITH WHATEVER OKAYEVERYONE WANTS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW'S BEING HELD OVER, THAT'S THE ONE YEAR AGREEMENT BETWEEN GREENBERG AND HASTINGS FOR FIRE PROTECTION OF DONALD PARK.
UM, THAT WILL BE HELD OVER TO THE OCTOBER 23RD MEETING.
THERE WILL BE PUBLIC COMMENT THOUGH, AS ALWAYS.
HE WAS HONORED BY, UM, YOU KNOW, SENATOR COUSINS.
UM, AND, UM, SOME OF THE VETERANS SAID IT IS POSSIBLE THAT ANDREA STEWART COUSINS, UM, YOU KNOW, MAY WANT TO SPEAK AND SOMEBODY FROM THE VETERANS.
SO JUST FOR LIKE A MINUTE OR SO, I DIDN'T KNOW.
HE PASSED AWAY OVER THE, I DIDN'T KNOW.
SO WE'RE ADDING THAT AS A MOMENT OF SILENCE TOO, CORRECT? YES.
BUT THEY, IF ANDREA OR, UM, SOMEBODY FROM THE VETERANS GROUP ONE WANTED TO SAY A FEW WORDS, WE COULD LET THEM SURE.
ARE THEY GOING TO DO IT? UM, DURING THE MOMENT OF SILENCE? DURING THE MOMENT OF SILENCE.
YOU SAID IT'S ON HERE, PAUL? I DON'T SEE IT ON HERE.
IT IS, IT'S IN, ON PAGE TWO UNDER MOMENT OF SILENCE AFTER ANN MARIE.
NO, I GUESS I DON'T HAVE THE MOST UPDATE.
I DID NOT RECEIVE THE MOST UPDATED AGENDA.
I I AM, I'M SENDING A VERSION RIGHT NOW.
AND YOUR HARD COPIES, AS I MENTIONED ON THOSE SHOW, IF YOU SAW MY TEXTS OR YOUR PAPERWORK IS IN THE OFFICE IN JOAN'S OFFICE.
SO YOU, WE HAVE A CHANCE YOU CAN COME GET THOSE.
SO WE'RE GONNA APPROVE, UH, THE, UH, THE STREET AND SIDEWALK, UH, LAW THAT BASICALLY, UM, REQUIRES CONED TO REP PAVE THE ENTIRE STREET RATHER THAN JUST A PORTION OF IT, RIGHT? YES.
SO THAT HEARING WAS CLOSED AT THE LAST MEETING AND THE RECORD WAS HELD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
AND ALSO, WHICH WAS CLOSED AND HELD OPEN FOR A WEEK IS TB FOUR, WHICH WAS DISCHARGE OF GROUNDWATER AND STORMWATER ONTO TOWN STREETS IN, IN TERMS OF, UH, THE ROAD WE'RE PAVING.
UM, IF, UH, I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF ROADS, UH, ESPECIALLY OFF, UH, EAST HARSDALE AVENUE THAT KIND OF HAS BEEN DIGGING UP.
WOULD THEY, IF THEY DUG IT UP ALREADY, UH, WOULD THIS LAW APPLY TO THEM? NO, IT WOULD NOT.
IT TAKES PLA EFFECT IMMEDIATELY UPON FILING WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE.
SO ANY WORK DONE AFTER THAT TIME.
SO IF BASICALLY THEY, IF THEY, SO IF THEY DON'T REPAY BETWEEN NOW AND SAY 30 DAYS, THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO REPAY THE WHOLE STREET.
SO IT'S TO THEIR, IT, IT, IT MAY TAKE LONGER THAN 30 DAYS TO HAVE THAT OFFICIAL FILING.
BUT YES, IF THE REPRE PAVING IS NOT DONE PRIOR TO WHEN IT TAKES EFFECT, WE EXPECT THE PAVING TO BE DONE FROM ONE CURB TO THE OTHER AND TO THE RIGHT.
AND CON ED'S AWARE OF THE LOCAL LAW THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ADOPTING, I'M NOT SURE, COULD LOOK INTO THAT.
BUT TO BE FAIR, UH, RESIDENTS AND ANYBODY WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBERG ARE SUBJECT TO THE LAWS, WHETHER THEY'RE AWARE OF THOSE LAWS OR NOT.
BUT WE WILL DO OUR BEST TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE AWARE.
NO, I THINK IT'S A, A GREAT LOOK AND THANK YOU.
AND ALSO YOU, I, I HAD HELP FROM DEPUTIES AS WELL.
AND ALSO, UM, WHEN THE LAWS ARE ADOPTED, UM, THEY ARE ALSO PUT ON, UM, THE TOWN CLERK'S WEBSITE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE SO THAT YOU'LL SEE ALL THE LAW BOARD IN ADDITION TO THE TOWN CODE THEN HAVE, DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ON.
UM, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR, JUST TO KIND OF GO BACK, BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THE FRONT PAGE OF THIS AGENDA.
IF ANYONE WAS TO COME AFTER THIS MEETING, SO WHAT TIME ARE WE GOING TO START TOMORROW'S MEETING? SO IF WE'RE NOT BLESS, IF WE'RE, IF THERE'S GONNA BE A PICTURE TAKEN, ARE WE GONNA START THE MEETING AT 7 37? 'CAUSE THE FLAG, 'CAUSE THE, ON HERE IT SAYS THE BOARD MEETING
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WILL COMMENCE AT SEVEN 15 AFTER THE FLAG RAISING.SO, AND YOU CAN'T NO, BUT IF THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS PLANNED, PAUL, THIS IS YOUR, THIS IS YOUR THING WHEN THAT'S, I'M ASKING PAUL THEIR ENTERTAINMENT AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
SO I SHOULD, THAT'S ALL HAPPENING BETWEEN 7, 7 30.
I THINK WE SHOULD START IT AS, YOU KNOW, AS SO WHAT'S, SO PAUL, WHAT EXACTLY IS GOING TO BE HAPPENING TOMORROW? UH, THEY BASICALLY HAVE LIKE ENTERTAINMENT AND, UH, PRESENTATIONS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A WHOLE, A WHOLE PLAN.
AND I SAID THEY HAVE FROM SEVEN TO SEVEN 30 TO, SO DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY PRESENTATIONS? DO YOU HAVE ANY, UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY DETAILS? YEAH, YOU KNOW, LEMME JUST SEE.
I ASKED JOE TO POST IT, UH, TOMORROW ON THE WEBSITE.
I EMAILED HIM EARLIER AND EVERY AND SO, BECAUSE NOW THAT WE ARE ADJUSTING, SO WE, WE, YOU PROBABLY NEED TO CONTACT MS. SANTIAGO AND TO MAKE SURE, ARE WE JUST GONNA, SO I'M JUST TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING.
'CAUSE IF WE'RE NOT GONNA GO OUTSIDE, SO WE'RE GONNA START EVERYTHING HERE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK, PRESENTATIONS, EVERYTHING.
I JUST, THAT'S WHY I'M JUST A LITTLE NOW, I DON'T KNOW.
I AM GOING TO BE A LITTLE LATE TOMORROW.
I WILL NOT GET HERE UNTIL SEVEN 30.
BUT WITH THAT MEANS IT'S JUST PAUL AND GINA HERE, HERE AND NOT A QUORUM THE AMOUNT.
SO HOW DO WE, IS THAT GONNA BE WELL, NO, 'CAUSE OUR MEETING, WELL, I'M REMOTE, SO HOLD ON A SECOND.
HOW, HOW, HOW WOULD THAT WORK, JOE? WE WOULD, WE WOULD NOT HAVE A QUORUM AT THAT TIME.
WE COULD, WOULD JUST SUGGEST EVENT QUORUM.
BUT THIS COULD BE, THIS IS SORT OF THIS CEREMONY.
IF THIS, IF, IF YOU'RE CONSIDERING, IF YOU DON'T CALL A MEETING AS YEAH, EXACTLY.
AS, AS A PRE UM, MEETING CELEBRATION, THEN THAT'S FINE.
UH, OBVIOUSLY THERE CAN'T BE, UM, ANY VOTES TAKEN WITHOUT A QUORUM PRESENT AND YEAH.
AND ROLL CALL CALL SHOULD A OCCUR WHEN WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
AND SO THE, THE CONCERN, I MIGHT BE LATE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO BE ON A PANEL THAT GOES FROM SIX TO SEVEN 30.
SO IT'S NOT FAR FROM HERE, HERE, BUT I PROBABLY WON'T ARRIVE HERE UNTIL 7 45.
SO I'M JUST, UM, SO THIS IS BASICALLY, THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN'T CHANGE.
SO THIS IS BASICALLY, OKAY, SO LET ME, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME LET, LET ME ASK YOU, OKAY, LET ME ASK YOU, LET ME ASK YOU THIS, HOW THIS AGENDA IS WRITTEN.
IS THIS WRITTEN PROPERLY? BECAUSE IF WE EVER TO REFER BACK TO IT IN THE FUTURE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S WRITTEN CORRECTLY.
AS FAR AS THE MEET, THIS IS NOT GONNA BE, THIS PRESENTATION IS NOT GONNA BE PART OF THE OFFICIAL MEETING.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IF ANYONE WAS TO GO BACK, WE'RE NOT, WE MAY NOT ALL BE HERE.
SO WE SHOULD UPDATE, SHOULD BE, SHOULD EACH, WE NEED TO UPDATE THE, THE FRONT PAGE.
WE COULD UPDATE, WE COULD UPDATE THE FRONT PAGE, WE COULD UPDATE IN, IN THE MINUTES AS WELL.
AND MAKE THAT NOTATION AT THAT TIME.
SO BASICALLY HAVE TO SAY SEVEN 30, WE'LL COMMENCE AT SEVEN 30, CORRECT? YEAH.
BUT, BUT NO, BECAUSE, UH, I WON'T GET HERE.
SO WE CAN'T COMMENCE BECAUSE WE WON'T HAVE A QUORUM.
SO IF YOU, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION THEN THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO FOR THE FLAG RAISING THE, THE WHICH THEY, THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA DO DOESN'T HAVE TO BE TELEVISED, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T, YOU CAN'T.
BUT IF THEY WANT TO, BASICALLY, IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HERE LATE, AND THE MEETING IS ACTUALLY GONNA START A LITTLE LATER ANYWAY, WHY DON'T WE SAY THEY COULD DO, WE COULD DO THE FLAG RAISING AND IT WON'T BE TELEVISED BECAUSE THE CAMERAS CAN'T DO IT.
THEN WE COME BACK HERE, THEY HAVE SPEAKERS, THEREA SANTIAGO, UH, THEY HAVE LOUIS SANCHEZ WHO WE ALL KNOW, UM, WHO THEY'RE HONORING.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE HONORING HIM.
UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE GREENBERG GIRL SCOUT TROOPS PERFORMING THE PUERTO RICAN NATIONAL ANTHEM AND A MUSICAL PERFORMANCE BY CARLOS, UH, JIMENEZ AND MAMBO TRIO.
UH, SO I SORT OF THINK, AND, AND DON'T, AND ALSO WE'LL BE GONNA BE RECOGNIZING, UM, MILLIE AND DIANA SHEHAN, THEY'LL BE RECOGNIZED AS WELL.
SO THEN, YOU KNOW, I SORT OF FEEL THAT SINCE THEY TOLD EVERYBODY THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A FLAG G RAISING OUTSIDE, WHY DON'T WE JUST LET THEM DO A FLAG G RAISING, WE COME IN 10 MINUTES LATER AND THEY DO THEIR PROGRAM AND THEN, UH,
SO WE COULD SAY, UH, WE'RE JUST GONNA WALK OUT FOR FIVE MINUTES AND THERE'S GONNA BE NOTHING, YOU KNOW, TELEVISED AT THAT AT THAT POINT.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR YES.
THAT THAT'S NOT GONNA START THE OFFICIAL MEETING.
THE OFFICIAL MEETING WILL NOT BEGIN UNTIL COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS COMES.
SO, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY, HOPEFULLY SHE CAN SNEAK OUT A LITTLE EARLY.
I'M GONNA WINK WINK TO HER WALK.
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UM, SO JUST WANTED TO SEE IF, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE SURE.
'CAUSE IT, THE EXP EXPECT EXPECTATION IS WE'RE GONNA BE TELEVISED AT SEVEN 15 AND WE'RE NOT THERE AND WE START A WHOLE 30 MINUTES LATER.
THAT DOESN'T MAKE US LOOK GOOD.
BUT WE'VE BASICALLY TOLD EVERYBODY, BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE WE UPDATE IT HERE.
AND THEN WE ARE MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT, UM, AT THE MEETING TOMORROW.
BUT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE, SO WE NEED TO TALK TO JOAN, MAKE SURE THAT WE UPDATE AND MAKE SURE THIS IS REFLECTIVE CORRECTLY.
THE ITEMIZED LIST THOUGH, THAT YOU WENT THROUGH SOUNDED MORE LIKE MORE THAN A HALF HOUR.
IT JUST WANTED TO SAY, WELL, I, WELL, PAUL KNOWS THE RULE.
WELL ALSO SINCE, UH, COUNCILWOMAN, HE NOT GONNA BE HERE PROBABLY TILL 7 45.
THAT SORT OF WORKS OUT, RIGHT? YEAH.
YOU GET THE EXTRA 15 MINUTES
YEAH, I COULD BASICALLY WALK SLOWLY OUTSIDE.
WE, SO THEN WE NEED TO, OKAY, SO AGAIN, I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO STRESS THIS BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT I HEAR.
WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT IF WE'RE GONNA START THE MEETING TOMORROW OFFICIALLY AT 7 45, THAT IT SHOULD BE REFLECTIVE ON THIS AGENDA.
IN ADDITION TO THE REFLECTION ON THE AGENDA, UM, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT WE CAN ALSO SEND THAT OUT ON THE GB LIST IN THE MORNING? WELL, HE DOES THAT.
AND PEOPLE CHECK AND PEOPLE CHECK THE WEBSITE ANYWAY TO CHECK WHEN THE MEETING'S GONNA BE.
YEAH, WHAT ELSE? WE GOTTA DO THAT.
WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I HAVE A QUESTION.
MM-HMM,
SO, SO LET ME MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
'CAUSE THIS IS, I'M JUST LEARNING PRETTY MUCH ABOUT THIS.
SO THE HISPANIC PRESENTATION THAT'S HAPPENING TOMORROW, ARE YOU PART OF THAT? I AM.
SO SHE'S NOT, SO THEN IT'S THREE SEPARATE.
SO THEN THERE IS THE SO IS IF I'M UNDERSTANDING THAT CORRECTLY, SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT ALL THREE PRESENTATIONS RELATING TO THE PUERTO RICAN CELEBRATION CAN HAPPEN BETWEEN SEVEN AND 7 45? YEAH.
NO, BECAUSE BECAUSE THE PORT PRESENTATION IS PART OF OUR MEETING.
JUST LIKE ANY PRESENTATIONS THAT WE DO, IT'S PART OF OUR MEETING.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE AFTER ROLL CALL, JUST AS IT IS AFTER MOMENT SILENCE ROLL CALL.
THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE MEETING.
THAT'S HOW WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA.
AND THAT REALLY IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING.
'CAUSE IT'S OUR OWN PRESENTATION.
SO YOU SAID THAT'S GONNA BE NO MORE THAN 20 MINUTES, RIGHT? UH, MADAM CLERK, MY TEST PRESENTATION IS FIVE MINUTES.
OUR HISPANIC LIAISONS IS 15 TO 20.
SO IT APPEAR, OKAY, SO, OKAY, SO LET'S TAKE IT FROM THE TOP.
SO IT APPEARS NOW THE MEETING TOTALLY WILL NOT BEGIN UNTIL 7 45 BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE THE PRESENTATIONS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE CAN HAVE BETWEEN SEVEN AND 7 45 IS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN PART OF OUR REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING.
BUT COUNCILMAN HENDRICKS IS NOT GOING TO BE HERE TILL 7 45 BECAUSE SHE HAS A PRIOR ENGAGEMENT.
SO YOU JUST SAID IT HAS TO BE PART OF OUR NORMAL MEETING.
WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ROLL CALL ANYTHING UNTIL WE, UNTIL ELLEN GETS HERE.
SO WE JUST, WE JUST NEED CLARITY ON THIS.
CAN I ASK THE, OUR ATTORNEY WHETHER, UM, WE NEED TO MAKE THAT A PRESENTATION, A PART OF OUR MEETING, OR IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, CAN WE VARY FROM OUR USUAL PROCEDURES TO THEN START EARLY ENOUGH AND HAVE EVERYTHING BEFORE THE, HAVE ALL THE PRESENTATIONS BEFORE WE CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER? YEAH.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY LEGAL ISSUE WITH THAT.
IT'S MORE OF A POLICY DETERMINATION FOR THE BOARD.
SO YOU CAN, BECAUSE WE, THE THING IS IF WE, WE TOLD EVERYBODY IT'S STARTING AT SEVEN.
SO WE DO EVERYTHING AT SEVEN UNOFFICIAL.
AND IT'S, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, IF WHEN YOU GET HERE AT 7 45, THEN WE BASICALLY DO THE MOMENT OF SILENCE AND RIGHT.
AND, BUT I THINK YOU'RE MISSING A POINT.
THE, THE FLAG RAISINGS GONNA BE OUTSIDE, COME BACK IN AND THEN WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS.
SO THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO START AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
SO SEVEN 15 WE'RE BACK IN THE ROOM AND WE JUST GONNA SIT.
THERE'S NOTHING NO, THAT'S WHAT I'M SUGGEST.
WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS, OKAY, SO I LOOKING AT, I'M LOOKING AT COUNCILWOMAN, HEY, UH, HABER HABER.
I'M LOOKING AT COUNCILWOMAN HABER AND SHE JUST SAID, EVERYONE JUST HEARD HER.
SHE SAID THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF OUR MEETING.
SO IF IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF OUR OFFICIAL MEETING, EXPLAIN AND WHAT I SAID, WELL, I'M JUST SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING, BUT WHAT I SAID IS THERE ANY REASON WHY IT
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HAS TO BE AT AN OFFICIAL MEETING AND WHAT THE ATTORNEY SAID IS NOT ACCORDING TO LAW, IT'S POLICY.SO WE CAN DECIDE NOW AMONG US IF WE WILL MAKE AN ABERRATION FROM OUR POLICY IN THE INTEREST OF THE RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO ATTEND THE MEETING SO THAT WE DON'T EXPEND EXTEND IT TO BE LATER THAN NECESSARY.
NOW, I HAD ALREADY, BUT THE RESIDENTS, THE RESIDENTS HAVE, WHO HAVE SEEN THIS AGENDA, KNOW THAT IT'S PART OF OUR MEETING, OUR PRESENTATION FROM THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE AND FROM OUR HISPANIC LIAISON.
IT'S PART OF OUR ACTUAL MEETING, JUST LIKE IT ALWAYS IS.
WHAT WE'RE DOING FROM SEVEN TO SEVEN 30 IS A SEPARATE THING.
ARRANGE BEAR SUPERVISOR WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ANOTHER, UH, GROUP AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT THAT'S NOT PART OF OUR MEETING.
AND, AND THAT COULD TAKE DEFINITELY A HALF AN HOUR OR 45 MINUTES.
I THINK WE SHOULD FOLLOW OUR REGULAR PROTOCOL AND KEEP IT, KEEP THE PRESENTATIONS FROM OUR TOWN CLERK AND FROM OUR HISPANIC LIAISON AS PART OF OUR MEETING AND THEN CONTINUE ON LIKE WE NORMALLY DO.
BUT THAT MEANS THAT THE MEETING DOESN'T START UNTIL 7 45 COUNCILWOMAN HABER.
AND WHAT I'M, AND I'M SUGGEST WELL, BUT 7 45 WASN'T PART OF OUR AGENDA EITHER.
AND IT'S JUST SO HAPPENED BECAUSE OF CIRCUMSTANCE THAT IT MAKES SENSE IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY THAT, THAT ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING.
CAN WHATEVER YOU WANNA DO, DO WHATEVER YOU WANT.
I I, I AGREE WITH YOU BECAUSE I BASICALLY FEEL THAT, UH, THIS IS SORT OF THE, THE MAIN THING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE RECOGNIZING THE PUERTO RICAN COMMUNITY.
WE'RE RECOGNIZING THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY.
WE'RE GONNA BE TELEVISING THEIR PRESENTATION.
UM, SO IF, IF YOU, IF YOU CAN'T ATTEND, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, LEGITIMATE, LEGITIMATE REASON AND IT'S TELEVISED AND YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE BASICALLY PUBLICIZING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, THEY'RE GONNA BE, EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, HAPPY.
AND THEN BASICALLY AFTER ALL THE PRESENTATIONS WE DO, WE START WITH THE MOMENTS OF SILENCES AND WE DO THE VOTES AND YOU KNOW, BY, AND YOU'LL BE HERE AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE A BIG THING ABOUT YOUR ABSENT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE NOT HERE, YOU KNOW, JUST MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, WE'LL, WE'LL START.
THEY'LL BE, I THINK THEY'LL BE HAPPY.
AND, UM, IT'S NOT, I I'M SURE WE, WE WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA MAKE SURE WE TRY TO MAKE EVERYONE HAPPY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE.
YEAH, I THINK THAT, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING A QUESTION.
THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS CLEAR WITH TIME.
THE MEETING IS STARTING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE IN PROTOCOL.
SO IF SO, CAN WE START FROM THE TOP? WHAT'S CHANGING ON THIS AGENDAS FRONT PAGE IS THE MEETING STARTING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK? SO WHY DON'T WE SAY, IS THE MEETING STARTING AT AT SEVEN O'CLOCK? WHY DON'T WE HAVE SPECIAL PROGRAMS SET TOWN BOARD SPECIAL PROGRAM.
AND THEN BASICALLY WE SAY, YOU KNOW, OR WE, WE COME UP WITH SOMETHING AND THEN WE SAY OFFICIAL MEETING 7 45 OR WHATEVER.
SO THIS WHY, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST SAY SOMETHING.
SO DOESN'T, DUE DUE TO UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES OR SOMETHING.
NO, WE DON'T HAVE TO REALLY APOLOGIZE.
WE COULD JUST SAY, UH, THE, WE'RE GONNA BEGIN A COMMUNITY CELEBRATION, UH, HONORING THE PUERTO RICAN AND HISPA AND HISPANIC COMMUNITY.
THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, RIGHT? YEAH.
IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE INCLUDING THE OTHER PRESENTATIONS, IT'S NOT JUST PUERTO RICAN.
SO WE'RE GONNA SAY THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY.
OKAY, EVERYBODY, I KNOW WE TOOK LIKE 20 MINUTES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TIME WE'RE STARTING TOMORROW'S MEETING.
SO I THINK WE'VE ALL DECIDED THAT THE MEETING IS GOING TO START AT SEVEN, RIGHT? WE'RE GOING TO HAVE OUR SPECIAL PRESENTATION FOR HISPANIC MONTH, AND THEN AFTER THAT, THEN WE WILL GO INTO OUR, OUR MEETING.
BUT ARE WE, ARE WE CLEAR? ARE WE RIGHT? AND WE'RE GONNA JUST GO OUT, WE'LL GO OUTSIDE WITHOUT THE TELE TELEVISING THE FLAG.
WHO'S GONNA, AND THAT WILL TAKE 15 MINUTES.
BY THE TIME WE'RE DONE WITH THAT, YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE HERE.
MAYBE IT WON'T BE, BUT FOR, FOR CLARITY, THE, THE PRESENTATION TO CELEBRATE THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY WILL HAPPEN BEFORE THE OFFICIAL MEETING IS OPENED UP.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO APOLOGIZE TO THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY THAT, THAT WHAT THE PANEL THAT I'M ON WAS SCHEDULED BEFORE THIS WAS SCHEDULED.
AND, AND BECAUSE I'M ONLY ONE ASPECT OF IT, I COULDN'T CHANGE IT.
I THINK SO WE JUST UPDATE JUST TO REFLECT THAT, PLEASE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAN.
DID YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THIS ANOTHER 20 MINUTES OR DID YOU WANNA MOVE ON? SUPERVISOR? OKAY.
SO NOW, UM, THE, THE BUDGET, WE SPENT MORE TIME ON THIS THAN ON THE WHOLE BUDGET, SO, UM, BUT UM, SO NEXT WE HAVE, UH, MOTION.
WELL, WELL FIRST OF ALL, JUST EVERYONE IS CLEAR THAT THERE'S NO, THERE ARE NO QUESTIONS ON THE AGENDA REVIEW.
SO IT'S GONNA BE A SHORT MEETING,
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HOPEFULLY.SO, MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND SAME PEOPLE ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.