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          [   			TOWN OF GREENBURGH 			PLANNING BOARD AGENDA 			WEDNESDAY, October 16, 2024 – 7:00 P.M. 			Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 10:00 p.m. 			                  ]
IN PROGRESS. 
          WELL SET. 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 16TH, 2024 MEETING OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG PLANNING BOARD. 
          DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT. 
          WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLE CHAIRPERSON? HANK? HERE. 
          MR. GOLDEN. 
          HERE. 
          MR. DESAI. 
          HERE. 
          MR. PINE. 
          HERE. 
          NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT BOARD MEMBERS, JOHANN SNA, LESLIE DAVIS, ISHA SPARKS ARE NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING. 
          WE ANTICIPATE, SORRY, WE ANTICIPATE POTENTIALLY MS. DAVIS JOINING VIA ZOOM, BUT SHE WILL NOT BE A PARTICIPATING MEMBER OR PART OF THE QUORUM SINCE WE HAVE ONE PRESENT THIS EVENING. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE MINUTES. 
          DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR CORRECTIONS TO THE MINUTES? NO. 
          PRETTY GOOD. 
          UH, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS WRITTEN? SO MOVED. 
          SECOND COR. 
          SO DYLAN AND CORT. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          IT'S A LOT EASIER THAN FOUR . 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE HAVE A LOT OF CORRESPONDENCE TONIGHT. 
          SOME OF IT IS RATHER LONG IN THE TOOTH, BUT WHY DON'T WE START, WAIT, WE DON'T HAVE THEM HERE YET. 
          EMILIO'S NOT HERE YET. 
          OKAY. 
          SO LET'S DROP DOWN TO ITEM C. 
          CASE NUMBER PV 19 AND 33. 
          BROSKI. 
          THIS IS, UH, UP FOR THE SEVENTH PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION EXTENSION. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          STEVE ANDERSON, GABRIEL SENIOR OF BC. 
          RAN, UH, ENGINEERS, UH, BRODSKY, UH, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S AN OLD HOUSE. 
          CAN YOU JUST VERY BRIEFLY RECAP WHAT THE SITUATION, NEWER MEMBERS, WE WORKING HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UH, I'M SORRY. 
          JUST RECAP THE SITUATION ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. 
          TWO ABOUT SUBDIVISION, ESSENTIALLY TO LEGALIZE THE GARAGE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND WE PRETTY MUCH HAVE EVERYTHING ON THE GARAGE. 
          UH, MS. BROSKI, UH, EVEN PROVIDED US SURPRISINGLY ARCHITECTURAL PLANS, WHICH WE NEED FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          AND, UH, WE'VE DONE TESTING FOR THAT LOT. 
          IT'S HER LOT, WHICH UP UNTIL A FEW WEEKS AGO, I WAS TOLD BY THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, WELL, YOU HAVE TO DO DESIGN FOR HER TO HER LOT. 
          THE DESIGN FOR IT'S NEW SEPTIC SYSTEM SHOW EXPANSION AND THERE'S A POOL THERE. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION WE'VE BEEN GATHERING ON THAT AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, BUT I'M SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF I GET EXTENSION, WE'LL HAVE IT ALL DONE BY, BY THE END OF THE EXTENSION. 
          SO WHAT EXACTLY IS NEEDED AT THIS POINT? AND FROM WHAT PARTY? WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION. 
          UH, WE HAVE THE PERK TEST, WE HAVE THE, UM, UH, THE ONLY ITEM I DO HAVE LEFT IS ARCHITECTURAL PLANS OF, OF THE HOUSE ITSELF, WHICH IS VERY, VERY SIMPLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE HOUSE IS HOW OLD? UH, 17 HUNDREDS I BELIEVE. 
          REVOLUTIONARY TIMES. 
          WELL, THOSE ARE ON MICROFICHE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO, SO THAT'S OUR, AND WE'LL HAVE TO DISTINGUISH, YOU KNOW, BATHROOM FIXTURES AND, AND THE ROOMS WITH A BEDROOM AND, YOU KNOW, SEE WHAT SIZE THEY ARE WITH THE CLOSETS AND EVERYTHING. 
          'CAUSE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO KNOW THAT FOR, SO HOW MUCH TIME WILL THAT TAKE YOU? THAT SHOULDN'T TAKE ME. 
          WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING INTO THEM IN A WEEK OR TWO. 
          UH, A COUPLE WEEKS. 
          AND THEN, UH, IT'S THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT WE HAVE TO RELY ON. 
          AND FROM WHAT I'M HEARING, THEY'RE SLOW. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHERE ARE YOU WITH THEM? IS THIS, UH, DO YOU NEED THE, I'M SORRY? DO YOU NEED THE DRAWINGS FOR THEM OR IS THAT JUST THE SEPTIC PLAN? I JUST HAVE TO LIKE, UH, ADD STUFF ITEMS FOR THE, THE EXISTING HOUSE, THE 1700 HOUSE. 
          SO, LIKE I SAID, I NEED THE ARCHITECTURAL PLANS AND TO SHOW, UH, EXPANSION AREA. 
          SO YEAH. 
          IS YOUR OFFICE PREPARING THOSE OR ARE YOU RELYING ON SOMEONE ELSE? UH, NO, WE'RE PREPARING WE'RE IT'S ALL IN HOUSE. 
          WE WE'RE DOING IT ALL. 
          SO. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, THAT SHOULD BE FAIRLY QUICK. 
          IT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID, HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          I'M NOT TOO SURE. 
          I'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH OTHER TOWN ENGINEERS AND THEY SAID, THEY'RE ASKING ME, HAVE YOU HEARD FROM HEALTH DEPARTMENT LATELY? SO, YOU KNOW, SO, UH, I WOULD SAY A COUPLE MONTHS ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          SO HOW MUCH OF AN EXTENSION WE ASKING FOR 180 DAYS? ANOTHER SIX MONTHS? I SHOULD HAVE THAT BE ENOUGH TIME. 
          I MEAN, YEAH. 
          CAN YOU, IF YOU DON'T MIND, CAN YOU SHOW I REPHRASE THE MEMORY BECAUSE IT'S A, IT'S A LONG TIME AGO. 
          WE KIND OF A, YOU HAVE THE PLAN THAT YOU CAN PUT IT UP AND SEE WHAT, UH, 'CAUSE IT WAS A LOT OF ITEMS WERE LIKE, I CAN ASK, UH, MR. BRITTON TO, IF HE'S AVAILABLE TO SHOW THE PLAN, BUT THERE'S, BECAUSE THIS HOUSE, THERE'S NOT REALLY ANY CONSTRUCTION HISTORIC REGISTER. 
          IT'S A HISTORIC 
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HOUSE OFF OF SAWMILL ON SAWM MILL RIVER ROAD, I BELIEVE NEXT TO THAT HAD A GARAGE THAT WAS TURNED INTO A RESIDENCE AND THEN HAD TO BE MADE CONFORMING, I BELIEVE. 
          AND THEY WANTED TO SUBDIVIDE A LOT AFTER SOMEONE IN THE FAMILY PASSED, I BELIEVE. 
          BUT IT'S BEEN FIVE YEARS NOW. 
          BUT, SO, SO IS THE STARTING BOARD HAS REVIEWED THE INNOVATION? OH YEAH. 
          THEY'VE REVIEWED IT. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, REALLY THE ONLY SITE WORK, THE ONLY WORK IS TO BRING THE GARAGE INTO LEGALIZATION. 
          YEAH. 
          TO LEGALIZE IT. 
          SO THERE'S A RAILING THAT'S REQUIRED, UM, BECAUSE THERE'S A STAIRWELL AND MAYBE ONE OTHER THING, BUT THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENTS ASKED FOR THESE ARCHITECTURAL DRAWINGS AS WELL AS THE SEPTIC INFORMATION. 
          SEE, CURRENTLY THE GARAGE DOES HAVE A BATHROOM IN IT, BUT IT'S ALL ON ONE SYSTEM AND IT'S NOT MUCH OF A SYSTEM. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE REQUIREMENTS HAVE GOTTEN A LOT TOUGHER IN THE LAST COUPLE YEARS, HAVEN'T THEY? THEY'VE CHANGED OVER THE PAST YEAR OR TWO. 
          I MEAN, THEY, YES. 
          THEY'RE MORE COMPLEX THAN THE 1950 LETTER I HAVE THAT SAYS, OH, YOU HAVE TWO FIELDS. 
          UM, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY GOTTEN A LITTLE, UH, BETTER WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AS FAR AS DESIGN. 
          SO IT'S A SEPARATE OWNER FOR BOTH THE UH, WELL, THAT'S WHY IF YOU DO TWO LOT SUBDIVISION, YOU CAN ASSUME THAT THERE'S GONNA BE TWO SEPARATE OWNERS IN THE FUTURE. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW, SO THEN YOU NEED THE TWO SEPARATE SYSTEMS. SO RIGHT NOW IT'S ONLY ONE OWNER. 
          YEAH, ONLY ONE OWNER. 
          BUT, BUT I THINK THEY WANNA SUBDIVIDE SO THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SELL ONE OR THE OTHER. 
          SURE. 
          WELL, WHEN DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SUBMIT TO THE COUNTY? THANK YOU. 
          UM, I THINK IT, WE COULD PROBABLY SUBMIT, I'LL SAY THREE WEEKS, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GET EVERYTHING IN LINE. 
          SO CAN YOU CONFIRM WITH STAFF HERE YEAH. 
          THAT, THAT'S HAPPENING WHEN THAT IS HAPPENING, SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN THAT CLOCK IS STARTING. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          AND BEYOND THAT, ONCE YOU SUBMIT, ASSUMING THERE ARE NO MORE EXTRA REQUESTS YEAH, I WOULD SAY A MONTH OR TWO FROM HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          BUT IS THAT THE LAST THING, THE FINAL THING YOU NEED? YEAH. 
          THEN IT COMES BACK TO, TO, UH, TO YOU GUYS FOR SAYING, WELL, WE, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE, THEY HEALTH DEPARTMENT WILL SIGN OFF ON IT AND THEN IT WILL COME BACK HERE, I GUESS FOR FINAL CORRECT. 
          AT THAT POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, OKAY. 
          AND NOTHING'S CHANGED WITH THE PLAT? NO. 
          NO. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHEN YOU DO COME BACK, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO REPORT THAT PLAT HAS CHANGED? YEAH. 
          THE PLA STILL THE PLAT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR YEAH, I THINK WE WANTED TO HAVE A, SINCE IT'S A HISTORIC NATURE, UH, BEFORE IT SELL. 
          SO WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD IT INTO THE SECOND LOT. 
          THAT WAS A QUESTION FROM THE BEGINNING. 
          THAT WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO IT, THEY'RE GONNA PUT A, SOMETHING THAT IS A COMPATIBLE WITH A HOUSE NEXT TO IT, OR I THINK IT'S JUST GONNA RENOVATE THE GARAGE AS IT IS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO AS OF RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S COMPLETELY UNKNOWN, BUT, UM, I WOULD HAVE TO PULL BACK UP THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL. 
          ANYTHING THAT WAS COMMUNICATED, UH, BY THE HISTORIC BOARD, POSSIBLY COULD HAVE BEEN CAPTURED IN A CONDITION. 
          SO I CAN RECIRCULATE YEAH. 
          THAT PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, BECAUSE IT WAS A FEW YEARS AGO NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          MR. BRODSKY WAS HANDLING ALL THAT AT THAT POINT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I JUST WANTED TO HAVE A, HE DID MEET. 
          SO I'LL RECIRCULATE THAT. 
          I HAVE NO ISSUE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. 
          THAT IS THAT IF THE BOARD WERE TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION THAT THE APPLICANT PROVIDE TIMELY UPDATES ON ITS SUBMISSION AND THEN FOLLOW UP WITH THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          SO I'VE BECOME AWARE THAT, UM, STAFF OF THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT GET ASSIGNED TO VARIOUS PROJECTS. 
          SO WE'D LIKE TO KNOW WHO'S ASSIGNED. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          WHEN THEY'RE ASSIGNED. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, SO THEN WE HAVE THAT INDIVIDUAL'S NAME AND WE CAN OBTAIN THE CONTACT INFORMATION. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IF WE AGREE TO GRANT THIS, AND WE'LL CHECK ON THAT IN A SECOND, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT AS A CONDITION OF THE EXTENSION. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          THANKS, MATT. 
          I MEAN, HE JUST PULLED OUT THAT SPECIAL CONDITION. 
          YEAH. 
          UM, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS, UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO EXTEND TO THE EIGHTH? NO, I'M SORRY. 
          THIS IS THE, TO GRANT, THE SEVENTH PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION EXTENSION. 
          SO FOR 180 DAYS FOR 180 DAYS. 
          SECOND, CORT AND MICHAEL. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU GOT THAT ONE. 
          NOW COMES THE TOUGH ONE. 
          THE TOUGH ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          CASE PB 1625. 
          THIS IS TAVR BALL. 
          IT IS THE 10TH PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION REQUEST AND, UH, EXTENSION REQUEST. 
          AND THE LAST TIME WE GRANTED IT, WE SAID, WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU ANOTHER ONE. 
          RIGHT. 
          HOWEVER, I READ YOUR LETTER. 
          I'VE TALKED TO STAFF, AND AMANDA'S GOING TO, UH, ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THIS AS WELL. 
          IT WASN'T ENTIRELY ALL IN YOUR HANDS. 
          IN FACT, THERE WERE SOME BIG SURPRISES ALONG THE WAY FROM THE TOWNSEND. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          BUT STILL IT'S 10. 
          SO, SO, SO I THINK WE NEED TO, HERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR WHY WE SHOULD GO REVERSE OURSELVES FROM SAYING WE'RE NOT GONNA GIVE YOU ANOTHER ONE TO GIVING YOU 
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HOWEVER MUCH YOU THINK YOU NEED. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, AMANDA, DID YOU WANT ELABORATE OR DO YOU WANT HIM TO GONNA HAVE HIM HIM SPEAK FIRST? YEAH, SO WHY DON'T YOU JUST, WELL, ESSENTIALLY GIVE US THE TOP LINE OF WHAT YOUR LETTER WAS. 
          WELL, WE WERE TRYING TO GET A LITTLE TIME A, UH, I, I'M SORRY. 
          I'M GONNA ASK AGAIN BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME NEW PEOPLE ON THE BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          JUST BRIEFLY RECAP WHAT THIS IS FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE, IT'S, UM, THE THREE LOTS SUBDIVISION. 
          UH, THE ONLY REQUIREMENT THROUGH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WAS, UH, A WATER MAIN EXTENSION, WHICH ESSENTIALLY WAS, UH, DOWN STRAIGHT DOWN THE ROAD IN FRONT OF THE HOUSES. 
          SO WE GOT APPROVED FOR THAT. 
          UM, AND SHE SENT THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          BUT THE PROBLEM IS THE WILL SERVE LETTER FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          UH, WE NEEDED A WILL SERVE LETTER AND WE KEPT REQUESTING, BUT THE ENGINEERS CHANGED IN THE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE TIMES. 
          UH, SO EVERY TIME WE, WE WOULD HA WE HAD A, A ONE PAGE LETTER WHEN WE FIRST GOT APPROVED. 
          SECOND TIME, UH, WE GOT APPROVAL AND, BUT NO SERVE LETTER. 
          IT WAS JUST SIGNED OFF PLANS BY THE ENGINEER. 
          AND THEN THE LAST TIME IS BY JA. 
          JASON, UM, JASON IS THE CURRENT ENGINEER, CORRECT? YEAH. 
          CURRENT ENGINEER AND, UH, ANDY DONNELLY, I BELIEVE. 
          YEAH. 
          THE WATER SUPERINTENDENT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE CAME IN AND THEY SAID, UM, THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE LONG EXTENSION DOWN THE STREET. 
          THEY WANTED LOOPED RIGHT. 
          AND WHAT THEY CALL LOOPING, INSTEAD OF HAVING ONE SECTION OF PIPE, IT WOULD BE LOOPED THROUGH THE PROPERTY. 
          AND, UH, SO IT'S BETTER BECAUSE IT'S BETTER FOR PRESSURE. 
          UM, IT'S BETTER TO CLEAN IT. 
          IT KEEPS THE PIPE CLEAN ALL THE TIME. 
          'CAUSE IF WE HAD THE LONG EXTENSION, YOU WOULD HAVE AHY A HYDRANT OR, UH, YOU KNOW, A BLOW OFF AT THE END, JUST THE CLEANING. 
          BUT THIS WAY THERE'S LESS MAINTENANCE. 
          IT, IT SHOULD SERVE BETTER WITH PRESSURE. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, IT'S A BETTER IDEA. 
          SO WE REDESIGNED IT WITHOUT CHANGING THE DISTURBANCE FOOTPRINT AND ALL. 
          SO I STILL, IT'S, IT'S A DIFF IT'S KIND OF A BALANCE BETWEEN THE TWO AGENCIES, THE, THE COUNTY HEALTH. 
          BECAUSE AT ONE POINT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SAYS, WELL, YOU SHOULD HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT LOOK AT IT TOO. 
          AND I TRIED TO REACH OUT TO THEM, NO ANSWER. 
          AND THEN, UH, I, UH, ALSO TRY AND JASON AND ANDY AND I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I DON'T GET ANY, I'D LIKE TO COME IN AND SEE THEM AT THIS POINT. 
          I LOOK AT IT. 
          IF I GET EXTENSION TONIGHT, I DO A SHAN REDEMPTION. 
          I GO IN EVERY WEEK AND, YOU KNOW, SAY THAT I NEED TO GET THIS DONE. 
          SO THAT REALISTICALLY YEAH. 
          SHOULD WE GRANT THIS? HOW LONG DO YOU ANTICIPATE IT MIGHT TAKE? OR THAT YOU MIGHT NEED THE ANSWER TO IS SAY, WE'LL SAY THREE WEEKS FOR THEN, RIGHT? YOU MEAN IF YOU GOT THE ANSWER FROM THE TOWN? YEAH, I NEED IT IN THREE WEEKS. 
          WE'LL, SERVE LETTER. 
          IT'S IS A LETTER SAYING, YOU KNOW, I MIGHT EVEN GET THAT QUICKER IF I, 'CAUSE I HAVE THE PLANS. 
          BUT LET'S SAY YOU GET IT IN THREE WEEKS. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN, THEN WHAT? THEN HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND I'M NOT ANTICIPATING, ONCE I HAVE THAT WILL SERVE LETTER, I THINK THAT THERE WEREN'T ANY OTHER ITEMS WHICH I'VE ALREADY TAKEN CARE OF ON THE PLAN. 
          I GOT A QUESTION. 
          SO WHAT, WHAT IS BUILT NOW IN TERMS OF THE WATER MAIN? WHAT'S THAT? WHAT WATER MAIN IS BUILT NOW? UH, IT COMES DOWN, UH, I FORGET THE NAME. 
          NO, I MEAN, DO YOU STILL HAVE TO BUILD A LOOP IF IT'S APPROVED? UH, IF IT'S APPROVED, WELL, YEAH, I HAVE TO BUILD THE LOOP. 
          NOTHING STILL A LOOP. 
          NOT, WELL, WE ARE EXTENDING FROM, I, I FORGET THE WIND WOODLAND. 
          YEAH. 
          THE, THE STREET THAT COMES DOWN THERE IS OH YEAH. 
          HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO INSTALL THAT LOOP IF THAT'S APPROVED? UH, IT SHOULDN'T TAKE TOO LONG. 
          YEAH. 
          HOW LONG? I MEAN, THAT WILL BE PART HOW LONG? UM, I WOULD SAY FOUR WEEKS TOPS. 
          BUT YOU'RE NOT BUILDING IT. 
          THEY WOULDN'T HAVE APPROVAL AFTER FINAL? NO, WE'RE NOT DOING IT YET. 
          WE WOULD'VE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. 
          THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO IT TILL AFTER THE FINAL. 
          YEAH. 
          CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT NEEDS TO BE TESTED. 
          OKAY. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S A WHOLE PROCESS. 
          PRESSURE TESTED, YOU KNOW. 
          BUT IN TERMS OF GETTING THIS, THE, GETTING TO THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, WHICH IS I WOULD SAY EIGHT YEARS OUT NOW, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AGAIN, WHICH I WOULD SAY I'M GONNA SAFELY SAY TWO MONTHS WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          YEAH. 
          COUPLE OF, AMANDA, DO YOU HAVE MORE TO ADD OR? WE DID. 
          YEAH. 
          I KNOW AARON HAS BEEN WANTING TO MAKE A COMMENT, SO I WAS WAITING IF I COULD. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          COUPLE OF THINGS. 
          ONE, UM, I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED THAT IT WAS THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT 
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ASKED FOR THE REVIEW TO BE UNDERTAKEN BY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE WE STAFF MET TODAY, UH, MYSELF, AMANDA, AND THE TOWN ENGINEER. 
          AND WE WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO WAS ASKING FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          WE WEREN'T SURE. 
          UM, BUT I DID REACH OUT TO THE FIRE CHIEF'S OFFICE THIS AFTERNOON. 
          I DIDN'T GET AN ANSWER. 
          I LEFT A MESSAGE. 
          WHICH FIRE DEPARTMENT IS THIS? IT'S FAIRVIEW. 
          UH, SO I LEFT A MESSAGE WITH, UH, CHIEF HOWARD REESE AND I WILL FOLLOW UP IF I DON'T HEAR BACK WITHIN A COUPLE OF DAYS. 
          UM, IN SPEAKING WITH THE TOWN ENGINEER, HE IS PREPARED TO ISSUE THE WILL SERVE LETTER WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO. 
          UM, HE, WE DO, WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE FIRE CHIEF FIRST. 
          SO HE'S MM-HMM. 
          HE'S READY ISSUE THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT HAD ISSUE, WE WE'RE KIND OF REMOVING ONE HYDRANT. 
          'CAUSE THAT WAS GONNA BE THE THRUST IT DEAD END, THE, YOU KNOW, THE BOOST THE BLOW OFF RIGHT AT THE END. 
          BUT YEAH. 
          AND THAT'S WHY THEY WANT THE FIRE AND THAT'S WHY WE GOTTA CHECK WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO, SO, AND MY QUESTION FOR YOU, STEVE, IS YOU HAVE THE WILL SERVE LETTER IN HAND, LET'S SAY WITHIN A WEEK OR TWO MM-HMM. 
          , THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT'S ALREADY REVIEWED THIS PROJECT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THERE WAS SOMEONE ALREADY BEEN ASSIGNED, THERE'S ALREADY SOMEBODY ASSIGNED TO IT. 
          YES. 
          OKAY, SO THEN YOU'D BE FILING YEAH. 
          JUST FOLLOWING UP WITH THEIR LATEST COMMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, I MEAN, WOULD TAKE YOU GUYS DEAL EXTRAORDINARY. 
          WELL, ALL OF YOU DEAL WITH HEALTH DEPARTMENT ISSUES, WHICH I DON'T. 
          SO IS THAT A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME? IT'S A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, BUT I WOULD REQUEST THAT THEY FOLLOW UP ON A WEEKLY OR BI-WEEK OR SEMI-WEEKLY BASIS. 
          BIWEEKLY, YOU'RE RIGHT. 
          BIWEEKLY YOU SAY BIMONTHLY. 
          BIWEEKLY. 
          BIWEEKLY BASIS, UM, WITH THE COUNTY. 
          OKAY. 
          AND JUST UPDATE PLANNING STAFF. 
          RIGHT. 
          UH, BECAUSE IN LOOKING AT THE HISTORY AND, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SOME DELAYS ON BOTH ENDS, BOTH ENGINEERING IN HAVING NEW STAFF AND, UH, BEING UNDERSTAFFED AND ALSO, BUT ALSO FROM, UH, YOUR, YOUR END, YOU KNOW, IN, IN RESPONDING TIMELY OR, OR WITH AN EXPEDITIOUS MANNER TO COMMENTS AND TO THE NEXT STEPS. 
          SO I THINK IN GOING FORWARD, SINCE THIS IS THE 10TH EXTENSION, IT WOULD, UH, BE GOOD TO INDICATE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD HASTEN THIS AND, AND MAKE IT A PRIORITY. 
          UM, AS WELL AS PROVIDE A WEEKLY OR, OR BIWEEKLY UPDATES. 
          OKAY. 
          SO THIS WILL BE THE, THE DROP DEAD EXTENSION. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANNA DO THAT BECAUSE THE COUNTY IS UNPREDICTABLE IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME IT TAKES FOR THEM TO PROCESS IT. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT UNFAIR. 
          I, I GUESS I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE COULD SAY PERHAPS SOMETHING LIKE FINAL ONE, UNLESS IT IS JUST THE COUNTY THAT WE'RE WAITING FOR. 
          YEAH. 
          BECAUSE IT'S, AND 10 IS A HECK OF A LOT ALREADY, BUT I KNOW IT'S BEEN COMPLICATED AND THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES ALONG THE WAY. 
          AND THE ALTERNATIVE I SHOULD MENTION IS IF THE BOARD WERE TO NOT EXTEND HERE OR IN THE FUTURE, IF DE IF REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT, UM, THEN THE PROJECT WOULD START FROM SCRATCH. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY WOULD SUBMIT, UH, THE SAME MATERIALS THAT THEY'VE ALREADY SUBMITTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT. 
          IT WOULD RUN THROUGH A STAFF REVIEW, COME THROUGH A PLANNING BOARD FOR A WORK SESSION, FOLLOWED BY A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          BUT YOU'D BE SEEING THE ITEMS, THE MEMBERS THAT WERE ON THE BOARD AT THE TIME, IT MOVED THROUGH THE PROCESS, THE SAME EXACT PLANS, JUST WITH THE NEW REVISION DATE, HOW MUCH, HOW MUCH MORE TIME THEY WILL GET IT DOING THAT OTHER THAN COMING EVERY SIX MONTHS. 
          BECAUSE THEN, THEN THE CLOCK WILL START AGAIN. 
          SO FIRST EXTENT FIRST IS WHAT? TWO YEARS TO GET? IT WOULD TAKE THEM PROBABLY SIX IF SIX MONTHS, SIX MONTHS PLUS TO GET TO WHERE THEY ARE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN HOW MUCH MORE THAN WHAT'S THE FIRST APPROVAL? FIRST APPROVAL WE GIVE WOULD BE THE SAME SIX MONTHS. 
          86 MONTHS. 
          SIX MONTHS. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT'S PER NEW YORK STATE TOWN LINE. 
          YEAH. 
          NEW YORK STATE TOWN. 
          WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IS IF WE GRANT THIS, WE GRANT THIS, BUT IF THEY COME BACK FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION, I WANT TO SEE A CHRONOLOGY OF WHAT HAPPENED FOR THIS UPCOMING 180 DAYS. 
          OKAY? MM-HMM. 
           YOU CALLED SO AND SO HE DIDN'T CALL YOU BACK, YOU SENT A LETTER. 
          HE RESPOND. 
          A DETAILED CHRONOLOGY. 
          OKAY. 
          YES, BECAUSE, UM, THIS IS A BIT MUCH. 
          SO YOU'RE SAYING YOU WANT WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE TO THE COUNTY SO THAT THERE'S EVIDENCE? YEAH. 
          IF, IF YOU COME IN FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION MM-HMM. 
           SIX MONTHS FROM NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          I WANNA SEE WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING. 
          YEAH, WE'LL KEEP RECORD EVERYTHING FOR THE PRIOR SIX MONTHS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          MM-HMM. 
           I THINK THAT'S FAIR. 
          AND, AND, AND JUST SO I SORT OF UNDERSTAND HOW, HOW WE GOT HERE, YOU KNOW, THE LOOP THAT, THAT THE TOWN ENGINEER IS NOW ADVISING, YOU KNOW, IS, IS THIS MORE OF A, A PERSONAL, UH, PHILOSOPHY ON, ON, ON, ON HOW THESE WATER MAIN SHOULD LOOK? OR IS THIS A STANDARD THAT WE'RE NOW, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL APPLICANTS THAT WERE TO COME IN FRONT OF US FROM COME IN FRONT OF THE TOWN, THIS IS A BEST PRACTICE 
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THAT WE'RE SUGGESTING. 
          YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW, HOW DID THIS COME TO BE WHEN THE PREVIOUS TWO ENGINEERS, UM, DIDN'T, DIDN'T HAVE THE SUGGESTION? YEAH, IT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND I'M GLAD YOU ASKED IT. 
          IT IS IDEAL TO HAVE A LOOPED SYSTEM. 
          UM, PERHAPS THE PRIOR TOWN ENGINEERS DIDN'T IDENTIFY THAT THERE WAS A PATH FORWARD TO LOOP THE SYSTEM. 
          BUT THE CURRENT TOWN ENGINEER, IN REVIEWING IT WITH THE TOWN'S WATER SUPERINTENDENT IDENTIFIED THE POTENTIAL I HAD AFTER HEARING ABOUT IT, I HAD COMMUNICATED WITH MR. ANDERSON'S OFFICE ABOUT THE POTENTIAL TO GO THROUGH AN EXISTING EASEMENT THAT WAS CREATED FOR THE SEWER. 
          UM, AND THEY WERE ABLE, THE EASEMENT'S WIDE ENOUGH TO SEPARATE THE LINES AND THEY HAD TO LOOK AT IT. 
          WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WEREN'T, UH, CREATING MORE DISTURBANCE THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, MODIFY THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT OR ANY OTHER APPROVALS MOVING THROUGH THE BOARD. 
          AND THEY WERE ABLE TO NAVIGATE THAT. 
          AND, AND SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS, THIS WILL BE, YOU KNOW, SORRY, WE'RE NOW PUTTING IN THE ENERGY AND TO REVIEW THIS AND IT'LL SLOW DOWN THE APPLICANT, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'LL PAY DIVIDENDS DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE THERE'LL BE LESS MAINTENANCE AND IT'LL ULTIMATELY BE LESS OF A BURDEN ON, ON THE TOWN TO MAINTAIN. 
          MM-HMM. 
           WASN'T THAT THE ISSUE WITH SPRINGBROOK NURSERY WHEN THEY COULDN'T GET WATER, THERE WAS NO LOOP DOWN THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THEY'RE LOOPING THE SYSTEM. 
          YES, ABSOLUTELY. 
          THAT'S A GOOD MEMORY. 
          ANYONE ELSE? YEAH, WELL, QUESTION OR COMMENT. 
          UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE 10TH PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION EXTENSION REQUEST WITH THE CAVEATS THAT, UH, HAVE ALL BEEN MENTIONED HERE TONIGHT. 
          480 DAYS FOR 180 DAYS. 
          SO MOVED. 
          DYLAN. 
          SECOND. 
          THERE'S ONLY TWO CHOICES. 
           SECOND. 
          I CAN SECOND ONE. 
          YOU CAN, OH, SECOND. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          I LEARNED SOMETHING. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          FROM ALL THANK YOU. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU STEVE. 
          NOTHING PERSONAL. 
          WE HOPE WE DON'T SEE YOU BACK ON THIS ONE UNLESS IT'S OH, I'M STILL HERE. 
          , UH, BECAUSE I THINK I'M ON THE NEXT OH, YOUS ALSO. 
          YEAH. 
          YEP. 
          ALRIGHT, SO NOW WE HAD THE PLEASURE OF ELLIE AT THE LAST TIME, BUT OKAY, HOLD ON. 
          IS, HAS, UM, HAS EMILIO SHOWN UP ONLINE OR IS HE COMING IN PERSON OR WHAT? HE TOLD ME HE'D BE HERE IN PERSON. 
          SO HOW DO YOU WANT TO HANDLE THAT? NOTHING. 
          WE'RE NOT DOING? NO, NO. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          NO PROBLEM. 
          ALRIGHT, WELL WE HAVE A COUPLE, I THINK, QUICK WORK SESSION ITEMS. FIRST ONE IS, UH, CASE NUMBER PB 2221 URA. 
          AND THIS IS, UH, CONSIDERING A DECISION FOR A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT AND WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT. 
          OH, LOOK WHO'S BACK. 
          SO I'LL GIVE THE QUICK UPDATE. 
          UM, PLANNING BOARD HAD A PUBLIC HEARING AT ITS LAST MEETING. 
          THE BOARD CLOSED THAT HEARING LEFT THE WRITTEN RECORD OPEN THROUGH OCTOBER 9TH. 
          THERE WERE NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS RECEIVED DURING THAT PERIOD. 
          AS SUCH, STAFF PREPARED A DRAFT DECISION UP FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. 
          IT WAS CIRCULATED IN THE PACKAGES. 
          UM, THERE WOULD BE TWO VOTES UNDER CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. 
          ONE FOR THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT. 
          THE OTHER FOR THE WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMIT. 
          THE APPLICANT DID OBTAIN ITS VARIANCE FOR THE POOL FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, UH, THAT WAS SITUATED SLIGHTLY INTO THE SETBACK WHEN IT WAS BUILT WITHOUT PERMITS A FEW YEARS AGO. 
          NOW, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO QUICKLY CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION SECTION FOUR ON PAGE FIVE, WHICH LISTS THE THREE SITE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS. 
          ONE IS THAT 4.1 STATES THAT THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN A FILL PERMIT FROM THE TOWN ENGINEER PRIOR TO FILING A BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATION. 
          THERE WAS FILL BROUGHT ONTO THE SITE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF A FILL PERMIT. 
          SO ANY TESTING THAT'S REQUIRED WOULD NEED TO BE DONE TO SATISFY THE TOWN ENGINEER. 
          SO THAT FILL PERMIT WOULD BE ISSUED 4.2. 
          UH, WHEN THE POOL IS DRAINED, THE APPLICANT SHALL HAVE THE POOL WATER TRUCKED OFFSITE FOR DISPOSAL AT APPROPRIATE FACILITIES. 
          THERE IS A WATER COURSE, UH, ON THE PROPERTY, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY DON'T EMPTY THE POOL WATER INTO THE WATER COURSE AND WETLANDS AREA. 
          AND THEN 4.3, WHICH, UH, CAME THROUGH VIA THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL AT THEIR RECOMMENDATION, THE APPLICANT SHALL REMOVE INVASIVE VINES AND FRAG RAG MIGHTY AIS FROM THE WETLANDS AREA PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OR COMPLETION BY THE TOWN BUILDING INSPECTOR. 
          ALL THE OTHER KIDS. 
          ACCORDING TO, I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I WAS SEEN THIS RECOMMENDATION OF WHICH ONE? 'CAUSE FRANK MM-HMM. 
           IS, UH, PRETTY, PRETTY COMMONLY. 
          UH, ALL BUTLAND HAVE IT, SO. 
          RIGHT. 
          THEY DO BECAUSE, AND IT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT'S 
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HIGHLY INVASIVE. 
          IT TAKES OVER, YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO IT JUST LOGS THE YEAH. 
          A HIGHLY INVASIVE, UH, PLANT. 
          BUT THE SMALL AREA OF THE WETLANDS AND THE KIND OF CONSTRAINED NATURE OF WHERE THESE, UH,  ARE, UH, DOES LEND ITSELF TO, UH, ACTUALLY BEING ABLE TO REMOVE THEM RATHER THAN THEM JUST STICKING AROUND. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THEY DO HAVE A PLANTING PLAN, SO THEY'RE GONNA INTRODUCE NATIVE VEGETATION INTO THE BUFFER. 
          SO ELIMINATING THE INVASIVES WOULD BE OF ASSISTANCE TO THE BUFFER AND THE WETLAND AREA. 
          SO, SO IT'S INVASIVE SPECIES. 
          IT IS HIGHLY INVASIVE. 
          YOU SEE IT ALONG THE HIGHWAY. 
          EDGE EDGES EVERY, YEAH. 
          WHAT'S THE COMMON NAME? FRAG. 
          FRAG. 
          IT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE CATTAILS, WHICH ARE, THERE ARE NATIVE CATTAILS THAT YOU'LL ALSO SEE IN WETLANDS. 
          THEY LOOK ALIKE ONE ANOTHER. 
          OH, SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE THEY'RE OKAY. 
          BUT THIS ONE IS NOT. 
          YEAH. 
          I SEE. 
          SO HOW DO YOU DISTINGUISH? WELL, ONE , ONE DISTINGUISHING FEATURE IS THE CATTAILS HAVE WHAT LOOK LIKE ALMOST LIKE A CIGAR AT THE TIP AT THE TOP OF THEM. 
          AND THE FRAG NIGHTIES DON'T HAVE THAT CIGAR LOOK, IT'S LIKE A BROWN CYLINDER AT THE TOP. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SO ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS BEYOND THAT? I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE STEEP SLOPE PERMIT. 
          SO MOTION SECOND . 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, MAY, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT? UH, THE WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMITS. 
          YEAH. 
          WHAT AM I LOOK? OH, I'M LOOKING AT SEGURA. 
          WAIT, YEAH, YEAH. 
          I HAVE A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT. 
          OH, THAT'S A TYPO. 
          I SEE THE WETLAND WATER. 
          YEAH, I, I UNDERLINED THE RIGHT THINGS ON MY AGENDA, BUT I'M LOOKING HERE AT THIS THING. 
          GOOD CATCH. 
          WE COVERED THE COVER LETTER. 
          YEAH. 
          FIRST PARAGRAPH. 
          SO MATT, WE'LL MAKE THAT CORRECTION. 
          UH, SO IT SHOULD BE AS AMENDED. 
          ALRIGHT, SO LET ME START AGAIN. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MAY I, UH, HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT? DYLAN SECOND. 
          NOW. 
          SO MOVED. 
          DYLAN AND MICHAEL. 
          I SAW A HAND. 
          I DIDN'T HEAR A, A VOICE. 
          I KNOW, I WAS JUST WONDERING. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          DID WE VOTE ON THE LAST ONE? I FORGET. 
          WE'RE GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          I KNOW WE, I HEARD THE MOTION, BUT I DIDN'T DO IT. 
          ALRIGHT, WE ARE PASSING BY, UH, PB 2326, WHICH IS ON THE AGENDA. 
          HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. 
          THANK YOU, STEVE. 
          BECAUSE, UM, THE MATERIALS WERE NOT IN ORDER YET. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I'LL EXPLAIN THAT FOR MR. DESAI AND ANYONE WATCHING ON TV. 
          UH, THE NEXT CASE ON THE AGENDA WAS ITEM FOUR B, WHICH IS PB 2326, WHITE PLAINS FOUR 50 REALTY, UH, 4 54 60 TERRYTOWN ROAD, PO WHITE PLAINS. 
          IT HAD BEEN SCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL. 
          STAFF HAD DRAFTED A DECISION FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION, UH, AND PROVIDED A COPY OF THE ZONING BOARD'S, UH, DECISION ON THE VARIANCES. 
          BUT AS, UH, SHOWN ON PAGE THREE OF THE DRAFT DECISION, WE HAD THE SUBDIVISION PLAT WHERE WE LIST ALL THE PLANS THAT WAS, UH, IN RED. 
          AND WE HAD BEEN WAITING ON THAT. 
          IT DID COME IN AND WAS IDENTIFIED THAT THE EASEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO BUILDINGS, IF YOU RECALL, THE PROJECT WAS NOT PROVIDED FOR ON THE PLAT. 
          UH, THERE WAS ONE OTHER DISCREPANCY. 
          SO STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THE BOARD HOLD OFF ON ANY CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING UNTIL WE GET THE REVISED PLAT. 
          THAT'S REFLECTIVE OF ALL REQUIREMENTS. 
          GOOD, GOOD. 
          SO THAT LEAVES US BEFORE WE GET TO THE BIG PROJECT, UH, CASE NUMBER PB 24 16 WHITE PLAINS VETERINARY HOSPITAL AT 45 TERRYTOWN ROAD WITH ONE VOTE, UM, FOR A PLANNING BOARD SPECIAL USE PERMIT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AARON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JUST RECAP WHAT THIS PROJECT IS AND SURE. 
          SO WHERE WE'RE, SO THE PLANNING BOARD LAST HAD THIS BEFORE IT AS PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING ON SEPTEMBER 30TH. 
          UH, THE BOARD AT THAT TIME CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, LEFT THE WRITTEN RECORD OPEN THROUGH OCTOBER 9TH, 2024. 
          THERE WERE NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS RECEIVED DURING THAT PERIOD. 
          UH, THEREFORE STAFF MOVE FORWARD WITH PREPARING THIS DRAFT DECISION, UM, WHICH DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING OUT OF THE ORDINARY FOR SPECIAL, FOR SPECIAL USE PERMIT DECISION RELATED TO A, UH, VET SMALL VETERINARY HOSPITAL. 
          UM, THERE IS, AS ACTING CHAIRPERSON HAY MENTIONED ONE VOTE. 
          AND THAT'S RELATED TO CONSIDERATION OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL. 
          ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? THAT'S PRETTY 
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STRAIGHTFORWARD. 
          MAY I ENTER, MAY I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT? SO MOVED. 
          CORRECT. 
          SECOND DYLAN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          OKAY. 
          LET ME ASK ONE QUESTION BEFORE, THANK YOU. 
          BEFORE WE, UH, MOVE ON. 
          CAN WE DISCUSS THE DATES FOR JUST A SECOND? 'CAUSE ABSOLUTELY. 
          AFTER THIS NEXT PROJECT, I CAN SEE PEOPLE MIGHT TAKE OFF AND, UM, IF WE TAKE A LITTLE BREAK, I MIGHT CALL MR. ESCAL OKAY. 
          TO SEE. 
          AND WE MIGHT TAKE A SHORT BREAK HERE. 
          OH, THAT'S STEVE AGAIN TO SEE IF, UH, MR. ESCALADES CAN BE AVAILABLE. 
          HAVE YOU ALL LOOKED AT THE DATES FOR NEXT YEAR? CORRECT? YES. 
          DID YOU TAKE A LOOK? ARE THERE ANY OBJECTIONS TO THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE SUGGESTED HERE? YES. 
          FOR OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          NEW YEAR'S, UH, PASSOVER IN YOM KIPPUR FOUR. 
          SO I'M, I'M NOT ABLE TO MAKE THE MEETING ON JANUARY 2ND, BUT, BUT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT DAY IT'S SCHEDULED, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THAT WHOLE WEEK I'LL BE UNAVAILABLE, SO FINE. 
          YEAH. 
          I'M, I'M IN. 
          SAME. 
          I WON'T BE HERE. 
          YOU'RE GOING ON DECEMBER 3RD, RIGHT? AND YOU'RE BACK WHEN? FEBRUARY. 
          FEBRUARY. 
          FEBRUARY? YEAH. 
          I MISS THREE MEETINGS. 
          THE, THIS DECEMBER MEETING AND THE TWO JANUARY MEETINGS. 
          YEAH, BECAUSE OUR MEETINGS ARE THE FOURTH. 
          SO YOU'RE NOT EVEN GONNA BE AT THE DECEMBER MEETING AT ALL. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT YOU'LL BE BACK PRIOR TO THE FEBRUARY 5TH. 
          FEBRUARY 19TH. 
          OH, SO YOU MISSED FOUR, THREE MEETINGS IN THE NEW YEAR AND THE LAST MEETING OF THIS YEAR. 
          OKAY. 
          I WANNA MAKE A NOTE OF THAT. 
          AND THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE I'LL MISS THE FEBRUARY 19TH MEETING AS WELL. 
          HOW ABOUT YOU, MICHAEL? I DON'T KNOW . 
          OKAY. 
          I GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS PLANNED, BUT I DON'T REMEMBER THE DATES. 
          OKAY. 
          IN TERMS OF THE ALTERNATE DATES THAT, UH, OUR OFFICE MANAGER PATTY APE PUT TOGETHER, FOR INSTANCE, WITH RESPECT TO, WELL, I GUESS WE SHOULD GO THROUGH THEM. 
          ONE, ONE, WHY NOT? ONE ONE'S A THURSDAY, TWO ARE MONDAYS. 
          SO, UH, THURSDAY'S UNUSUAL, BUT IT'S NEW YEAR'S. 
          JANUARY 1ST FALLS ON NEW YEAR'S SUGGESTION WAS THURSDAY, JANUARY 2ND. 
          THE ZONING BOARD WOULD NOT BE MEETING THAT NIGHT. 
          SO, UH, MS. OPE HAD IDENTIFIED THAT THE AUDITORIUM WOULD LIKELY BE AVAILABLE FOR THAT EVENING. 
          IT'S THE DAY AFTER NEW YEAR'S. 
          YOU COULD ALSO DO THE NINTH, RIGHT? OR THE EIGHTH? CLOSE TO THE EIGHTH WOULD BE THE, IS THE TOWN BOARD MEETING, I'M ASSUMING? YEAH. 
          I MEAN, THE PREFERENCE IS TO KEEP THE OFFSET OF TWO WEEKS FROM ONE ANOTHER. 
          RIGHT. 
          WHERE POSSIBLE, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHECK WITH LESLIE AND AISHA. 
          OKAY. 
          BECAUSE WE'VE ALREADY TWO, WE'RE DEFINITELY NOT HERE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, I CAN DO MONDAY THE 30TH, BUT I'M SURE NO ONE ELSE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT. 
          SO . 
          OKAY. 
          SO SAY FOR NOW, WE'LL, UH, WHAT I'LL DO IS CIRCULATE AN EMAIL WITH ALL THE DATES, BUT, UM, WE'LL SAY FOR NOW, THURSDAY IS THE PREFERRED DATE. 
          THURSDAY, JANUARY 2ND. 
          OKAY. 
          THE NEXT IS, UH, THE SECOND APRIL MEETING, WHICH WOULD HAVE BEEN SET FOR APRIL. 
          APRIL 16TH, UH, DUE TO PASSOVER. 
          THE SUGGESTION IS MONDAY THE 21ST, WHICH WOULD FALL THE FOLLOWING WEEK. 
          HOWEVER, THERE ARE, UH, FIVE WEDNESDAYS IN THE MONTH. 
          SO WE DO HAVE EXTRA TIME THERE. 
          SO DOES ANYONE OPPOSED MONDAY THE 21ST? IDEALLY, MONDAY IS BETTER THAN TUESDAY BECAUSE THE TOWN BOARD HOLDS ITS WORK SESSIONS IN THIS ROOM ON TUESDAYS AND THEN WOULD HAVE THEIR MEETING ON WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY'S. 
          ZONING BOARD. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO NO OBJECTIONS, I THINK PUT IT DOWN AND SEE IF SOMETHING COMES UP LATER. 
          GREAT. 
          AND THEN LASTLY, UM, OUR FIRST OCTOBER MEETING WOULD BE THE FIRST, UH, OCTOBER 1ST. 
          AND HOWEVER THAT'S FALLS ON YOM KIPPUR. 
          SO THE SUGGESTION IS FOR MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH, WHICH IS 12 DAYS AFTER THE PREVIOUS MEETING. 
          CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          WE DID THAT ONCE OR TWICE THIS YEAR. 
          WELL, IT'S A QUICK TURNAROUND BOTH FOR APPLICANTS AND STAFF. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT IT'S NORMALLY 14 DAYS. 
          IT'S ONLY TWO DAYS LESS. 
          NO, I KNOW. 
          WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE AWARE WELL AHEAD OF WHICH WE ARE IN THIS CASE. 
          SO THAT FOLLOWING THAT MEETING ON THE 17TH, IT'S A SHORT TURNAROUND. 
          WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE GET PACKAGES OUT TO BOARD MEMBERS WHILE IN ADVANCE SO YOU HAVE TIME TO LOOK THROUGH THE MATERIALS. 
          SO WE WILL DO THAT. 
          WHAT 
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HAPPENS IF IT'S A OH, THEN IT WILL BE A FOURTH OF FOURTH OCTOBER. 
          SO THEN IT WILL BE CLOSE TO YEAH, THE PREFERENCE WOULD BE MONDAY. 
          YEAH, MONDAY THE 29TH. 
          SO FOR NOW, WE'LL PLAN FOR MONDAY THE 29TH, SIR. 
          NO OBJECTIONS. 
          LET'S HOLD THAT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          SO I'LL, WE WILL HAVE MS. OREO KIND OF PUT THIS TOGETHER AND WE'LL CIRCULATE TO ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING, AND THEN VOTE ON IT AT OUR NEXT MEETING PERHAPS. 
          SURE. 
          THAT SOUNDS GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, WE'RE GONNA JUST TAKE A VERY SHORT BREAK. 
          I'LL MAKE ONE APPLICANT THAT ALRIGHT. 
          SHOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR EXTENSION REQUESTS AND IS NOT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND WE'LL JUST SEE IF WE'RE GONNA DO THAT. 
          TAKE A TWO MINUTE, TWO OR THREE MINUTES AND YOU KNOW, IF HE CAN'T DO IT UNTIL AFTER WE WILL MM-HMM. 
           TAKE CARE OF THIS FIRST. 
          UM, IT'S EMBARRASSING TO COME HERE FOR THE THIRD TIME. 
          AND A A, A ASK FOR AN EXTENSION. 
          LET'S TAKE THE FIRST ONE, WHICH IS THE SMALLEST ONE. 
          UH, I, I'M JUST GONNA ANNOUNCE WHAT THAT IS. 
          OH. 
          UH, SO TAKE A, TAKE A BREATH, RELAX. 
          THE FIRST, UH, CASE 2205 SECOR WOODS. 
          THIS IS A REQUEST FOR A THIRD PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION EXTENSION. 
          YOU SAID CCO, RIGHT? YES. 
          CCO ROW. 
          CCO WAS OKAY. 
          OR DID YOU WANNA DO DI NAPOLI FIRST? IT REALLY DOESN'T. 
          NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. 
          IT'S FINE. 
          I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S SECO EMBARRASSING EITHER ONE. 
          UM, CO THIS IS THE LAST SUBMISSION, THIRD ITERATION FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          I MET WITH WAYNE. 
          THERE ARE A LOT OF YOUNG SLINGERS GUN SLINGERS OVER THERE IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND THEY'RE ALL SHY GUN SHY OF APPROVING THINGS UNLESS EVERY COMMA AND EVERY, AND I DON'T BLAME THEM. 
          IT'S THEIR JOB TO DO THAT. 
          AND THIS IS THE THIRD ITERATION. 
          AND THE THING THAT STOPPED IT, AND AGAIN, AND I DON'T WANNA BLAME ANYBODY, IT'S JUST THAT THERE'S SO MANY LITTLE MOVING PARTS AND, AND THE, THERE WERE THREE ENGINEERS THAT WE, WE CA WE WENT THROUGH, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING THESE FINAL SUBDIVISIONS. 
          AND THERE'S ONE SHEET HERE THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE WATER SUPPLY, THE WATER DISTRICT. 
          AND, AND THERE'S SOMETHING THAT NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO GET. 
          AND I FINALLY WENT AND I MET THE, UM, WATER, UM, CHIEF, HE'S A WONDERFUL MAN. 
          UM, HE TOOK HIS TIME OUT. 
          HE SAYS, I, I KNOW THIS, THIS IS THE, THE FAIRVIEW DISTRICT WATER DISTRICT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS MEANS. 
          I THINK THIS GUY IN THE OFFICE CAN DO. 
          SO TOMORROW MORNING I'M GONNA PUT THE NAME OF THE NUMBER THAT IS IN. 
          SORRY, I I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU. 
          I'M JUST, CAN YOU JUST STATE WHAT THE ISSUE IS? AFTER THIS SUBMISSION, WE SHOULD GET THE APPROVAL FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          WHAT IS THE ISSUE? WHAT, WHAT WAS THE, THE LAST ISSUE? WHAT WAS THE LAST CHANGE? YEAH, THE LAST, THE LAST THING THEY WERE REQUESTING THAT, UH, THAT THEY REQUESTED FROM ME. 
          YES. 
          IT WAS, THEY CHANGED SLOPES IN DRAINAGE, UH, PIPES. 
          THEY WANTED, THEY WANTED IT STEEPER, SO WE HAD TO REDO IT. 
          THE, THE LOCAL ENGINEER ALSO, UH, GOT INVOLVED. 
          HE DIDN'T HAVE TO, BUT HE GOT INVOLVED AND HE, HE WENT THROUGH HIS OWN SET OF CRITERIA AFTER WE HAD BEEN APPROVED BY THE TWO PREVIOUS ENGINEERS. 
          AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA BLAME ANYBODY. 
          IT'S, IT'S ALRIGHT. 
          YOU'RE NOT THE FIRST BUT HAS, IN ORDER TO SATISFY ALL THESE NEWCOMERS, IT JUST TAKES TIME. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT IS, IT'S NOTHING IS LEFT. 
          EVERYTHING IS DONE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IF WHATEVER YOU'RE SUBMIT, I'M SORRY. 
          YOU'RE ABOUT TO SUBMIT OR YOU DID TODAY. 
          THIS IS, THIS IS GOING IN TOMORROW MORNING. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IS THE LAST THING THEN IS FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO APPROVE THIS. 
          CORRECT. 
          THEY WOULD SIGN OFF AND THEN I WOULD COME TO YOU FOR THE FINAL APPROVAL. 
          IS THAT RIGHT? AND THEN NOTHING ELSE. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO I FEEL COMFORTABLE IN GRANTING THIS EXTENSION TO ANYONE ELSE. 
          JUST QUESTION MAY ARE YOU SAYING THAT PEOPLE AT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT CHANGE THEIR MINDS ABOUT NO, THEY DON'T CHANGE THEIR MINDS. 
          THEY, WHOEVER'S REVIEWING, AND THESE ARE YOUNG ENGINEERS, YOU'RE SAYING THE NEW REVIEWER DECIDED DIFFERENTLY. 
          THEY PICK, THEY PICK ON, THEY PICK ON THINGS THAT NO ONE EVER PICKED BEFORE. 
          FOR EXAMPLE, I CAN, I CAN SHOW YOU. 
          IT'S OKAY. 
          YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THAT ARGUE VIEW WAS THE TOWN ENGINEERS CHANGED TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY DON'T LIKE ONE NOTE BECAUSE IT SAYS, UH, UM, CPM OR, OR, OR IT SAYS, I HAVE TO TAKE THAT NOTE OUT. 
          BUT IT TOOK THREE WEEKS TO GET TO THAT. 
          SO I SAT WITH HIM TODAY. 
          I SAID, PLEASE GO THROUGH EVERYTHING AND, AND MAYO. 
          YEAH, I GOT IT. 
          I GOT IT. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANKS. 
          SORRY, DYLAN. 
          YEAH, SO, SO, SO THIS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF, OF THE TOWNS ENGINEERING, THE TOWN ENGINEER, JUST 
          [00:40:01]
BEING A LITTLE MORE THOROUGH AND, UH, MAKING SURE IT'S, YOU KNOW, EACH ENGINEER, EACH PLANNER HAS KIND OF THEIR AREA OF FOCUS SURE. 
          SO TO SPEAK. 
          AND THREE ENGINEERS FROM THE TOWN. 
          I'VE LOOKED AT IT AMONGST OTHERS. 
          THAT'S CORRECT. 
          IN THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT I'VE LOOKED AT IT AND THEY EACH HAVE KIND OF A DIFFERENT, UH, TAKE ON THINGS AND ASKED FOR DIFFERENT ITEMS. SO MR. ESTIS HAD TO TAKE THE TIME TO ADDRESS EACH OF THE ENGINEERS AND NOW EACH OF THE REVIEWERS SURE. 
          WITH THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          AND SO WHAT WOULD THE BENEFIT BE OF A, OF A STEEPER SLOPE? ZERO . 
          OKAY. 
          IT'S A PREFERENCE THAT SOUNDS LIKE, BUT I THINK THE WORD CONFUSES ME, BILL, IS THAT ONCE THEY HAVE APPROVED HOW THEY CAN, HOW, WHAT IS THE REASON THAT THEY CAN GO BACK AND CHANGE IT? I, I THOUGHT YOU ARE, YOU ARE DEALING WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. 
          I, I COULD ARGUE GETS I COULD ARGUE WITH THEM ABOUT ANY COMMENT, BUT I DARE NOT BECAUSE THEN IT WOULD, IT WOULD ESTABLISH A BAD RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE MASTER AND THE SLAVE. 
          SO I I I AM THE SLAVE. 
          I HAVE TO PLAY THAT ROLE. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          LET'S NOT GO THERE. 
          BUT, BUT I THINK, BUT IT'S THE TRUTH. 
          I TELL YOU GUYS THE TRUTH. 
          IT'S, AND BY THE WAY, I WAS SICK FOR SIX MONTHS. 
          I WAS OUTTA COMMISSION FOR SIX MONTHS. 
          I HAD A SPOT IN THE, IN THE, IN THE IN, UH, LET THE HELL KILLS EVERYBODY. 
          I, I THINK READY TO MOVE ON. 
          I ALMOST DIED AND I'M BACK TO LIFE. 
          AND SO I LOST SIX MONTHS PERSONALLY OF THIS PROCESS. 
          SO THAT WAS PART OF THE DELAY. 
          I'M SORRY TO HEAR THAT. 
          I'M GLAD YOU DIDN'T. 
          IT'S WHAT, IT'S, IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          I THINK WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON ON THIS ONE. 
          CAN THANK YOU. 
          I HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE THIR, UH, THIRD PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION EXTENSION REQUEST FOR 180 DAYS FOR 100. 
          THANK YOU MICHAEL. 
          KEEP REMINDING ME A HUNDRED. 
          IS THAT SO MOVED? SO YEAH. 
          SIX MICHAEL SECOND. 
          THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. 
          APPRECIATE ALL IN FAVOR. 
          THIS, THIS WILL BE DONE THIS WEEK. 
          AYE. 
          I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF THAT'S RETROACTIVE. 
          I'M ADD THAT TO THE OH, IT IS. 
          YEAH. 
          SO NONE PROTON TO WHAT DATE? YEAH, TO WHAT DATE? UH, I THINK IT WAS THE 11TH. 
          UH, OCTOBER 11TH. 
          I HAVE IT ELECTRONICALLY. 
          YOU SPOKE UP OR YOU WEREN'T READY? I KNEW IT WAS RETROACTIVE. 
          I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DATE. 
          I HAVE IT. 
          UH, TWO OCTOBER 11TH. 
          I READ . 
          GOOD. 
          I JUST GOT THAT ONE. 
          OKAY, LET'S MOVE ON THEN TO PB 21. 
          23 DI NAPOLI DI NAPOLI. 
          YES. 
          AND AGAIN, A THIRD PRELIMINARY, PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION EXTENSION REQUEST. 
          AND I KNOW YOU'VE HAD A A LET ME EXPLAIN THAT ONE BIG SURPRISE ON THAT ONE TOO. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, HE, HE, HERE WE GO. 
          WE, WE GOT APPROVALS FROM THE FIRST ENGINEER, THEN THE FIRST ENGINEER LEFT, THEN WE GOT APPROVALS FROM THE SECOND ENGINEER. 
          THE SECOND ENGINEER LEFT, THEN THE BOARD HEARD IT WITH ALL THE APPROVALS OF STAFF. 
          THEY APPROVED IT PRELIMINARILY. 
          AND THE, UH, THIRD ENGINEER, I NEEDED THE THIRD ENGINEER TO SIGN OFF ON THE PLANS. 
          THE PLANS HAD TO BE SIGNED AND STAMPED BY THE TOWN ENGINEER. 
          THE TOWN ENGINEER LEFT MONTHS, WENT BY BEFORE TOWN, GOT THE NEW ENGINEER. 
          SO HERE WE GO. 
          WE, I'M READY TO GO. 
          THE NEW ENGINEER COMES. 
          I DON'T WANNA SAY ANYTHING BAD ABOUT HIM, BUT HE DID NOT SIGN OFF AND HE CAME UP WITH COMMENTS, UM, THAT ARE EVEN NOW BEING ANSWERED. 
          I ANSWERED IT ONCE AND HE CAME UP WITH MORE COMMENTS, SLOPES OF PIPES. 
          UM, IN MY OPINION, UH, HIS, YOU KNOW, HE, HE WANTS TO SEE THE WORLD HIS WAY AND I, I CAN'T SAY NO. 
          I JUST HAVE TO DO WHAT HE WANTS ME TO SAY. 
          WHAT WANTS, WHAT HE WANTS ME TO DO. 
          AND I CAN CHANGE IT. 
          CAN IT BE DONE? YES, IT CAN BE DONE. 
          UH, HE'S ASKING ME TO PROOF OF DRAINAGE, UH, ANALYSIS. 
          UM, I HOPE THAT HE ACCEPTS, UH, WHAT I HAVE BECAUSE I'M NOT GONNA REDESIGN THE DRAINAGE. 
          THE DRAINAGE IS WHAT IT IS. 
          AND WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT. 
          UM, SO, UH, AND THEN I'M TOLD, UM, THAT THE, THE DISTRICT WHERE I'M IN IS NOT THE WATER DISTRICT. 
          SEWER. 
          RIGHT. 
          WE'RE NOT WATER SEWER. 
          WE'RE NOT IN THE SEWER DISTRICT SEWER. 
          AND HE WAS A HUNDRED PERCENT CORRECT. 
          UM, INTERESTING ENOUGH, THE PREVIOUS SUBDIVISION THAT HAD BEEN DONE BY MR. PETRE 20 SOME ODD YEARS AGO WENT THROUGH THE SAME PROCESS AND NOBODY PICKED IT UP EVEN THEN. 
          SO WHEN WE, WHEN WE TOOK THOSE RECORDS AND REHASHED THEM INTO A NEW SUBDIVISION, WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE THE SAME NUMBER OF LOT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, WE NEVER EXPECTED, NOR DID THE REVIEWING STAFF, UH, SUSPECTED THAT, UM, THAT THIS WAS NOT IN THE SEWER DISTRICT. 
          AND SURE ENOUGH, IT WAS NOT IN THE SEWER DISTRICT. 
          I HAVE NOW SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION TO THE LEGAL DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY ENGINEERING. 
          IT IS NOW HOPEFULLY BEING SCHEDULED FOR, UH, TOWN BOARD, UH, MEETING AND HOPEFULLY A PUBLIC HEARING AND SUBSEQUENT APPROVAL. 
          UM, OKAY, LET ME STOP YOU THERE. 
          WE'LL GO BACK. 
          DID YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING AT THIS POINT, AMANDA? SO I CAN CONFIRM THAT THAT'S BEEN CIRCULATED TO TOWN STAFF FOR REVIEW OF THE PETITION TO EXTEND THE SEWER 
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DISTRICT. 
          SO I'M CURRENTLY REVIEWING IT FOR LEGAL SUFFICIENCY. 
          I KNOW IT'S BEEN CIRCULATED TO ENGINEERING. 
          UM, AND SO THEY'LL REVIEW IT AND SUBMIT IT TO THE TOWN BOARD TO SCHEDULE PUBLIC HEARING. 
          SO IT WILL BE, YOU SAID IT WILL BE. 
          SO I'M REVIEWING IT CURRENTLY TO MAKE SURE IT MEETS THE STANDARD FOR LEGAL SUFFICIENCY. 
          ENGINEERING IS REVIEWING IT FOR THE MEETS AND BOUNDS. 
          WELL MEETS AND BOUNDS. 
          HERE'S ANOTHER ONE. 
          IT'S AN INTERESTING ONE. 
          VERY INTERESTING. 
          EITHER THE TOWN ENGINEER KNOWS MORE THAN THE SURVEYOR OR THERE IS A MISTAKE IN THE PROBLEM IN THE SYSTEM. 
          I HAVE HAD TWO SURVEYORS COME UP WITH THE SAME MEETS AND BOUNDS. 
          THAT'S MR. PETTI. 
          AND, UH, AND UH, OU WHO IS, WHO'S A GENIUS SURVEYOR, AND I'M SURPRISED, I CALLED HIM YESTERDAY. 
          I SAID, I'M EMBARRASSED TO TELL YOU THAT I WAS TOLD THAT THE THE MEETS AND BOUNDS DON'T CLOSE. 
          YES. 
          SO, UM, SOMEONE MADE A MISTAKE OR THERE IS AN ACCUMULATION OF ERROR OF DEEDS THAT ARE A HUNDRED YEARS OLD. 
          THIS IS TOUCHING 17 LOTS. 
          AND WHO KNOWS IF ONE OF THOSE LOTS HAS THE WRONG MEETS AND BOUNDS AND WE HAVE INHERITED THAT ERROR. 
          SO, UH, IT IT, IT IT'S A MATHEMATICAL OKAY. 
          UH, CORRECTION THAT HAS TO BE MADE. 
          WHAT STEPS WELL REMAIN THAT NEED TO BE DONE. 
          AND HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU THINK THEY'LL TAKE THE I'M IN THE, HOPEFULLY THE LAST STEP WITH THE TOWN ENGINEER. 
          I HAVE GIVEN HIM MY ANSWERS TO HIS QUESTIONS. 
          I HAVE ASKED HIM FOR A MEETING FACE TO FACE NEXT WEEK SO THAT I MAKE SURE THAT HE UNDERSTANDS IT THE WAY I UNDERSTAND IT AND THERE'S NO, UH, UH, LEFTOVER INFORMATION THAT I HAVE NOT GIVEN HIM. 
          UH, THEN I, THEN I WANT HIM TO SIGN OFF ON THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SIGNED OFF ORIGINALLY BY TWO OTHER ENGINEERS. 
          I, I GOT IT. 
          SO THAT I, AND I'M SORRY. 
          SO I CAN TAKE IT TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND, UM, AND, UH, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THAT I'M GOING. 
          I'M SURE THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE SOME COMMENTS BECAUSE AGAIN, THEY'RE, THEY ARE WHO THEY ARE. 
          SO I THINK THOSE DRAWINGS HAVE BEEN EXPURGATED QUITE WELL. 
          ALL THE NOTES ARE QUITE, UH, UP TO DATE. 
          EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE, IN MY OPINION, READY TO GO. 
          BUT YOU DON'T KNOW, I, THEY MIGHT FIND SOMETHING IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT THEY WANT CHANGED. 
          SO THAT PROCESS OF TIME MAY TAKE, IF I ANNOY THEM EVERY WEEK, IT MAY TAKE A MONTH. 
          IF I DON'T ANNOY THEM, IT TAKES THREE MONTHS. 
          SO I WILL ANNOY THEM BECAUSE IT IS UP TO ME TO BRING IT BACK TO YOU REAL QUICK. 
          SO I, I WOULD MAKE A CALL EVERY WEEK AND SAY, WAYNE, IS THIS DONE? IS THIS DONE? IS THIS DONE? SO YOU WEREN'T HERE FOR A COUPLE OTHERS, UH, THAT, THAT TOOK PLACE BEFORE YOU ARRIVED, BUT WE DO, THEY HAVE THE SAME ISSUES WITH A, I HAVE SOME OF THE SAME ISSUES, BUT WHAT WE, IT'S DIFFERENT. 
          WHAT WE REQUESTED WAS ONGOING COMMUNICATION WITH STAFF ON A WEEKLY OR BIWEEKLY BASIS AND DOCUMENTATION OF WHO'S BEING CONTACTED AND HOW LONG I WOULD DO THAT. 
          IT TAKEN TO GETTING BACK ON BOTH ENDS. 
          SURE. 
          WHETHER IT'S THE COUNTY, THE TOWN, THE ENGINEER, YOUR STAFF. 
          IS THAT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? I KNOW, I THINK, THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD PUT A STANDARD PROCEDURE. 
          IF THEY GO MORE THAN THREE, THEN I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE CHRONOLOGY SUBMITTED BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE, WE HEAR THE SAME SONG AND DANCE EVERY SIX MONTHS. 
          YEAH. 
          DURING COVID IT HAPPENED A LOT. 
          AND WE KNEW THAT A LOT OF AGENCIES WERE, YOU KNOW, VERY UNDERSTAFFED OR SLOW. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT WE WANT TO TRY TO KEEP IT TO THREE IF NOT LESS. 
          I MEAN, IT'S A GOOD, GOOD, GOOD, GOOD, UH, PROCEDURE AND WOULD BE MUCH EASIER FOR YOU GET EXTENSION WHEN THE STAFF REVIEWS. 
          I UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION. 
          I WOULDN'T SAY ANYTHING BUT THAT. 
          IT IS JUST THAT FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, UM, I CAN ONLY GRAB SOMEBODY BY THE NECK, CAN SHAKE 'EM. 
          THAT'S FINE. 
          AND SAY, SIGN THE DOCUMENTS, LET ME OUTTA HERE. 
          IF YOU'RE NOT GETTING A RESPONSE, THAT'S ONE THING. 
          IF YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING UP, THAT'S ENOUGH. 
          BUT I, I, I'M TELLING YOU HOW I FEEL AND I FEEL LIKE DOING THAT. 
          BUT I, I I, I LOVE THE MAN. 
          I THINK HE'S MY EX STUDENT. 
          HE'S A GREAT PERSON. 
          UH, HE'S KNOWLEDGEABLE, BUT HE IS, I DON'T KNOW, AFRAID TO, UH, SAY YES. 
          AFTER ALL IS MY STAFF. 
          I'M THE ONE, I'M THE ONE COOKING. 
          I'M IN THE FRYING PAN. 
          I'M WRONG. 
          I'M THE ONE THAT GOES TO JAIL. 
          AMELIA, I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE ON THIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          TELL YOU WORKED UP. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          ONE QUICK COMMENT I WANTED TO MAKE, WHICH WAS, UM, YOU KNOW, COMMENDING THE TOWN STAFF FOR BEING THOROUGH. 
          I I CAN IMAGINE THEY ARE, I CAN IMAGINE THAT THIS IS A, A FRUSTRATING PROCESS AND IT CERTAINLY WOULD BE EASIER FOR THE TOWN JUST TO, YOU KNOW, MOVE THIS FORWARD. 
          BUT, BUT I COMMEND THE TOWN STAFF FOR I DO TOO. 
          TAKING THE EXTRA MOMENT TO REVIEW AND FINDING THESE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES AND, UH, AND, AND TO FOLLOW THAT SENTIMENT, UH, I THINK THAT SOMEHOW THE APPLICANT SHOULD HAVE, UH, AN INHERITED RIGHT. 
          UH, WHICH IS WHAT I'M CLAIMING HERE FROM THE, THE TWO PREVIOUS MONTHS AND YEARS OF APPROVAL AND, AND, AND, AND, AND ISSUANCE TO THE PLANNING BOARD. 
          HAVING THE PLANNING BOARD ACCEPTED THE, THE RESULTS OF THE STAFF. 
          THEN. 
          SO, SO TO HAVE ONE PERSON, NEW PERSON COME AND STOP THE PROCESS, RIGHT. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING. 
          AND THAT'S REALLY WHERE I WOULD COMPLAIN. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I COULD UNDERSTAND YOU BEING FRUSTRATED. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE THE POWER OVER RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S OKAY. 
          AND 
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WE DO HAVE PEOPLE WAITING. 
          UM, UNDERSTOOD. 
          AND WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS HEAR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE THIRD EXTENSION REQUEST. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THE CAVEATS THAT WE HAVE EXPRESSED HERE. 
          SO CORRECT. 
          SECOND DYLAN. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          YOU'RE GOOD. 
          I LIKE THE NEW YORK MAN. 
          KEEP KEEP IN TOUCH. 
          AND IF I COULD JUST MAKE ONE OTHER QUICK COMMENT. 
          YOU KNOW, AS, AS A SOMEWHAT RECENT MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT THE CORRESPONDENCE WAS OUTLINED IN THE AGENDA. 
          I KNOW THAT HASN'T ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE. 
          AND I THINK FOR THE PUBLIC WHO, UH, FOLLOWS THESE AGENDAS MEETING AFTER MEETING AND, YOU KNOW, KNOWING WHAT CORRESPONDENCE IS GONNA BE DISCUSSED, UM, IS A REALLY GOOD STEP FORWARD FOR TRANSPARENCY AND PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. 
          GREAT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          MIO. 
          YOU CAN TAKE A BREATH NOW AND WELL, I'M EMBARRASSED I WAS LATE AND I I DON'T LIKE THAT. 
          I HOPE YOUR EVENING IS, GOES MORE SMOOTHLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          COME ON UP JOHN. 
          YOU ARE SCHEDULING. 
          YOU WOULDN'T BE SCHEDULING. 
          SO I'M REVIEWING IT SO I'M BACK TO THE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER. 
          UNLESS MICHAEL HAS AN OBJECTION, I I DON'T HAVE A SEAT. 
          OF COURSE. 
          JOHN'S GOOD TO SEE EVERYBODY. 
          SEE YOU IN PERSON. 
          YOU HAVE THE SCREEN, THE DEAN HISTORY. 
          I'LL GET YOU LOOK. 
          , THEY'RE IN THE CAMERA SHOT. 
          MOVE FORWARD A LITTLE BIT. 
          I'M GONNA SHARE MY SCREEN HERE IN A SECOND. 
          YEAH. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          WE ARE MOVING AHEAD TO PB NUMBER 2207. 
          THIS IS CHICK-FIL-A, UM, AND I 20 TERRYTOWN ROAD. 
          THIS IS AN APPLICATION THAT HAS BEEN BEFORE US A FEW TIMES. 
          I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN SEEING OTHER BOARDS AS WELL. 
          UM, TONIGHT. 
          ERIN, DO YOU WANT TO JUST EXPRESS WHAT WERE, WHAT'S ON THE TABLE HERE? YES. 
          AND THEN, I'M SORRY, AMANDA, DO YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING FIRST? SO I AM NO LONGER CONFLICTED OUT OF SITTING ON THE BOARD FOR THIS, UH, PARTICULAR CASE. 
          UM, PRIOR FOR MY WORK FOR HAD REPRESENTED CHICK-FIL-A PREVIOUSLY ON THIS APPLICATION A WHILE AGO, BUT UNDER THE TOWN CODE, SINCE IT'S BEEN LONGER THAN TWO YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE AND DID NOT PERSONALLY WORK WITH THEM ON THEIR APPLICATION. 
          I CAN NOW SIT WITH THE, WITH PLANNING BOARD AND WE'RE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU. 
          SO, UH, QUICK RECAP ON WHERE WE ARE. 
          THE PLANNING BOARD IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR, MARCH 6TH, MARCH 6TH, 2024, ADOPTED A SEEKER NEGATIVE DECLARATION, UH, FOR THIS PROJECT, WHICH WAS CIRCULATED TO ALL OTHER INVOLVED AND INTERESTED AGENCIES. 
          UM, THE APPLICANTS MET WITH OUR ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS FOR A NUMBER OF MEETINGS. 
          UH, IT HAS ALSO MET WITH THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS PLANNING BOARD, UM, QUICKLY, AND I KNOW THE APPLICANT'S COUNSEL WILL GET INTO IT, BUT THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS PLANNING BOARD, WHICH ISSUED A DECISION, UH, LAST EVENING, WHICH THE APPLICANT CAN WALK US THROUGH. 
          UM, ESSENTIALLY THE, THERE'S A PARKING LOT, IF YOU RECALL, PARKING LOT FOR EMPLOYEES AS IT WAS SHOWN ON THE PLAN WITHIN THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS. 
          UM, AT THE REQUEST OF A BOARD MEMBER OR THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, THE APPLICANT HAD IDENTIFIED THAT THAT PARKING LOT COULD BE UTILIZED AS AN ADDITIONAL OVERFLOW FOR THE QUEUE IF NEEDED. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT WAS, UH, WRITTEN UP INTO THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND THE GRAND OPENING PLAN. 
          UM, AND IT WAS ALSO REFERENCED IN THAT NEGATIVE DECLARATION THAT WAS ADOPTED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, BEING THAT THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS WAS, DID NOT APPROVE FOR THE ADDITIONAL QUEUING INTO THAT LAW. 
          UM, THE REQUIREMENT HERE IS FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME BACK TO THIS BOARD TO SEEK AN AMENDMENT TO THAT SEEKER NEGATIVE DECLARATION. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEY NEED THAT IN HAND BEFORE THEY CAN GET A DECISION BY THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS, WHICH THEY'VE BEEN BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD FOR A NUMBER OF MONTHS AND ARE BACK ON THAT AGENDA NEXT THURSDAY. 
          UM, SO THEY'RE BACK HERE OBVIOUSLY BEING THAT THE PLANNING BOARD, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFIED THAT ADDITIONAL, UM, LOCATION RIGHT IN THE NEG DECK AND AS A MITIGATION MEASURE, WE HAD THE APPLICANT, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND ALSO, UM, IDENTIFY ALTERNATIVE MEASURES THAT CAN BE TAKEN TO ENSURE THAT TRAFFIC SAFETY, UM, IS, UM, YOU KNOW, 
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ADHERED TO AND THAT THE QUEUE DOESN'T OVERFLOW OUT INTO THE ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD OR THE ADJACENT ROADWAYS OR STATE ROADWAY. 
          UM, SO WE HAD THEM LOOK AT THAT. 
          WE ALSO HAD THEM LOOK AT THE RECENTLY OPENED, UH, CITY OF YONKERS CHICK-FIL-A ON CENTRAL PARK AVENUE, WHICH OPENED IN THE SUMMER. 
          UM, AND THEY MADE OBSERVATIONS AT VARIOUS TIMES FROM THE, BASICALLY FROM THE GRAND OPENING TO TWO WEEKS AND BEYOND THAT, UM, AFTER OPENING, WE WANTED TO HAVE INFORMATION ON THAT. 
          WE WANTED JOHN CANNING TO LOOK AT ALL OVER AND GIVE HIS FEEDBACK TO THE BOARD. 
          UH, WE ALSO HAD OUR, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY UNIT, SERGEANT BEN FONTELLA, REVIEW THE ADDITIONAL MATERIALS WE MET, ALL MET ON ZOOM. 
          WE GOT HIS FEEDBACK AND WE WANTED TO BRING THAT ALL TO THE PLANNING BOARD THIS EVENING, HEAR FROM THE APPLICANT, UNDERSTAND AND HEAR OF ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MEMBERS MAY HAVE WITH THE GOAL, IF THE BOARD'S COMFORTABLE IN CONSIDERING AN AMENDED NEGATIVE DECLARATION UNDER , WHICH WE DRAFTED AND WAS IN YOUR PACKAGES. 
          YES, CORRECT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND WE MAY ADD TO THAT EDIT AS NECESSARY. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MR. GOTTLIEB. 
          GOOD EVENING. 
          CHARLIE GOTTLIEB WITH THE LAW FIRM OF WHITEMAN, OMAN, AND HANNAH IN ALBANY, NEW YORK LAND USE COUNSEL FOR CHICK-FIL-A I'M HERE WITH OUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER, PHIL GREELEY FROM CO ENGINEERING AND DESIGN AND OUR CIVIL ENGINEER KIM FRY TAG FROM BOWLER ENGINEERING. 
          UH, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE BEEN BEFORE THIS BOARD. 
          UM, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME UPDATES AND TALK ABOUT THE AMENDED NEGATIVE DECLARATION. 
          UM, IT REALLY IS JUST ONE SENTENCE OUT OF THE AMENDED NEGATIVE OR THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION THAT WE'RE LOOKING, UM, TO REMOVE OR ALTER OR REVISE SIMPLY TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS RECENT CITY OF WHITE PLAINS APPROVAL. 
          UM, TO, TO GO BACK TO TWO YEARS, UH, YOU KNOW, ACCOUNTED THE MONTHS, RIGHT? WE'VE BEEN BEFORE THIS BOARD, I THINK IT WAS 18 OR 19 MONTHS TO GET TO THAT POINT OF THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION AND TO THIS PLANNING BOARD'S CREDIT, THERE WAS EXTENSIVE REVIEWS DONE. 
          WE DREW A LOT OF COMPARABLES, IF ANYONE REMEMBERS THAT, OF SIMILARLY SITUATED CHICK-FIL-A'S IN NEW JERSEY AND IN NEW YORK AND CONNECTICUT. 
          UH, SO AS AARON MENTIONED, UM, THERE IS A, A SMALL PART OF THE EXISTING NEGATIVE DECLARATION THAT TALKS ABOUT IN THE EVENT OF AN INCREDIBLY EMERGENT SITUATION, CARS WOULD BE ABLE TO POTENTIALLY QUEUE IN THAT PARKING LOT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE THERE. 
          THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS. 
          UM, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE LOOKING TO AMEND THIS EVENING. 
          WE SUBMITTED ON OCTOBER 9TH, I BELIEVE, A REVISED GRAND OPENING AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, UM, WHICH HAS BEEN REVIEWED BY MR. CANNING, YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, TOWN STAFF AND SO FORTH, WHO'VE BEEN INCREDIBLE IN ORGANIZING THIS KIND OF RAPID NEW DEVELOPMENT, UM, THAT HAS OCCURRED. 
          THE REVISED GRAND OPENING PLAN, AND, AND PHIL WILL GO THROUGH IT, HAS A FEW NEW THINGS, UM, COMMENTS THAT WERE FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FROM TOWN STAFF, UH, AND SOME FROM SOME MEMBERS OF THE ZBA. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT ZBA PICKED UP ON WAS THAT THERE'S NO TRIGGERS IN THE GRAND OPENING PLAN. 
          SO WHEN IS THE OPERATOR GONNA KNOW THIS IS STAGE ONE, THIS IS STAGE TWO, WHEN DO WE IMPLEMENT IT? SO IT'S BEEN REVISED, UH, TO INCLUDE THAT, UH, AND IN MY EYES, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S A VERY GOOD ADDITION. 
          THERE'S ALSO BEEN SOME STRATEGIES TO, ONCE THE QUEUE GETS TO AROUND 40 CARS TO START HAVING CHICK-FIL-A TEAM MEMBERS START TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PARK. 
          YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR FOOD QUICKER IF YOU ORDER ON YOUR PHONE, IF YOU PARK OR IF YOU PARK AND GO INSIDE, UH, THAT'S ONE MECHANISM TO, TO STOP THE QUEUE LINE FROM, FROM GOING, UH, TOO FAR BACK. 
          THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS LAST NIGHT, UH, ADOPTED SITE PLAN AND SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL FOR A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT. 
          THAT COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT RIGHT THERE IS IN THE CITY'S B THREE ZONING DISTRICT. 
          IT PERMITS A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT, WHICH IS SIMPLY DEFINED AS THE PARKING OF PASSENGER VEHICLES THAT ARE NOT FOR SALE. 
          UM, THAT'S IT, THAT'S ALL THE ZONING CODE MENTIONS ABOUT IT. 
          UH, WHEN WE MET WITH WHITE PLAINS PRIOR TO EVEN SUBMITTING TO THIS BOARD, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD MENTIONED TO US THEY FAST FOOD RESTAURANTS ARE NOT PERMITTED ON THAT, THAT WHITE PLAINS PARCEL. 
          THEY WANTED ALL, UH, CHICK-FIL-A OPERATIONS OFF OF THAT PARCEL. 
          AT ONE POINT, WE HAD THE DUMPSTER ENCLOSURES OVER THERE AND SO FORTH. 
          THEY WANTED ALL SIGNAGE, ALL OPERATIONS TO BE OFF THAT PARCEL. 
          BUT THEY MENTIONED TO US THAT IT WILL BE PERMITTED AS A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT. 
          THAT'S BETWEEN THE TENANT CHICK-FIL-A AND THE LANDOWNER AS TO WHO THEY WANT TO HAVE PARKED THERE AT THE TIME, IT WAS NOT INDICATED THAT THERE COULD BE NO USE AT ALL FOR, FOR PASSENGER GUEST VEHICLES. 
          THAT SAID, IT'S ALWAYS 
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BEEN CHICK-FIL-A'S INTENT. 
          AND IF YOU GO BACK THROUGH THE MINUTES, BE BEFORE THIS BOARD, THAT CHICK-FIL-A ONLY INTENDS TO USE THAT FOR EMPLOYEE PARKING. 
          THERE'S 30 SPACES THERE. 
          CHICK-FIL-A HAS ANYWHERE BETWEEN 15 AND 20 EMPLOYEES DURING ONE SHIFT. 
          SO WITH 30 SPACES, YOU HAVE ENOUGH FOR OVERLAP OR IN TIMES OF HIGH DEMAND IF THERE'S AN EVENT AT THE COUNTY CENTER DURING GRAND OPENING, WHEN MORE TEAM MEMBERS MIGHT BE ON SITE TO HELP WITH ANY RUSH. 
          SO IT WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE, UH, USED FOR GUESTS. 
          THE LANGUAGE IN THE EXISTING NEGATIVE DECLARATION, IF ANYONE REMEMBERS, UH, WAS KIND OF TOSSED IN THERE AT THE END, UH, TOWARDS THIS PLANNING BOARD'S REVIEW AS A WHAT IF, A WHAT IF THAT, THAT IS NOT LIKELY TO OCCUR BECAUSE ALL OF THOSE COMPARABLE CHICK-FIL-A'S THAT WE PRESENTED SHOW A MUCH SMALLER QUEUE DURING THEIR GRAND OPENING PHASES. 
          UM, THEN, THEN WE HAVE MUCH SMALLER QUEUE THAN WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO STACK HERE. 
          AND PHIL WILL GO THROUGH THAT. 
          AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THE YONKERS FACILITY ALSO DEMONSTRATED. 
          SO THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS APPROVAL, WE EMAILED IT OVER TO, UH, THIS BOARD. 
          I'M NOT SURE IF EVERYONE HAS IT, BUT QUICKLY GOING THROUGH THE CONDITIONS OF THAT APPROVAL, IT WAS APPROVED WITH THE 30 SPACES YOU SEE HERE. 
          UH, IT DID INDICATE THAT THERE SHALL BE NO QUEUING OF GUEST VEHICLES, SHALL BE EMPLOYEE ONLY. 
          UH, AND TO KIND OF FURTHER DISCOURAGE GUESTS FROM EVER PARKING THERE, THE CITY WANTED TO SEE THAT SOUTHERN ACCESS POINT. 
          YOU SEE, THERE'S TWO ACCESS POINTS THERE INTO THAT PARKING LOT. 
          THE SOUTHERN POINT SHOULD BE CLOSED, SO THERE'S ONLY ONE CURB CUT THERE. 
          UM, THERE SHALL ALSO BE ALL SIGNAGE, CHICK-FIL-A SIGNAGE. 
          THERE'S A MONUMENT SIGN THERE, PROPOSED AT ONE POINT AT THE SOUTHERN TIP SHOULD BE OFF THE PROPERTY. 
          NO CHICK-FIL-A COLORING OR INSIGNIAS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. 
          STILL A SIGN AT THE ACCESS POINT THAT SAYS, AUTHORIZED VEHICLES ONLY. 
          SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE. 
          UM, LET'S SEE, WHAT ELSE DO WE HAVE HERE? THERE WERE OTHER CONDITIONS RELATED TO JUST THE CITY'S STORM WATER MANAGEMENT PROCESS, UH, COMPLYING WITH DPW STANDARDS, AND THEN A CONDITION RELATED TO THE, UH, NEW YORK STATE DOT EASEMENT THAT GOES OVER THAT COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT. 
          THERE'S A DRAINAGE EASEMENT THAT GOES OVER KIND OF RIGHT THROUGH THAT PARKING LOT, THE DOT MENTIONED, WE CAN, THERE IS CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE CAN PAVE OVER THAT. 
          UH, WE CANNOT PUT ANY IMMOVABLE OBJECTS OR STRUCTURES IN THAT AREA, AND THAT IF SOMETHING EVER HAPPENS IN THAT DRAINAGE AREA AND DOT HAS TO COME AND RIP IT UP, THAT'S ON US ESSENTIALLY. 
          SO IN SUPPORT OF OUR AMENDED DECLARATION THIS EVENING, WE SUBMITTED THE UPDATED GRAND OPENING AND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, WHICH, UH, I THOUGHT SOMETHING THAT WAS GREAT WE DID THIS TIME, UH, WHICH I BELIEVE WAS AARON'S IDEA, WAS TO SIT DOWN WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, AND AS WELL AS MR. CANNING AT THE SAME TIME. 
          AND WE GOT SOME REALLY GREAT FEEDBACK THERE. 
          UH, UH, IT ALSO IN OUR OCTOBER SUBMISSION, THERE'S DETAILED INFORMATION ABOUT THE YONKERS FACILITY. 
          SO TWO NEW CHICK-FIL-A'S HAVE ACTUALLY OPENED UP IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY SINCE WE WERE LAST. 
          BEFORE YOU. 
          ONE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, NO DRIVE THROUGH DINE-IN ONLY ONE IN THE CITY OF YONKERS, WHICH IS NO DINE-IN DRIVE THROUGH AND TAKEOUT ONLY. 
          SO I SAY THAT BECAUSE IT, IT'S QUITE IMPORTANT TO, FOR THE YONKERS FACILITY TO REALIZE THAT THAT PROJECT LIKELY IS GONNA HAVE A HIGHER DRIVE THROUGH DEMAND BECAUSE PEOPLE CAN'T GO IN, SIT DOWN AND, AND EAT THEIR MEAL. 
          UH, WE PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED EIGHT, I BELIEVE IT WAS EIGHT SIMILAR CHICK-FIL-A FACILITIES. 
          AND AT THAT TIME, THE PLANNING BOARD WANTED TO RE REVIEW, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH OFF STREET PARKING AND DO OUR DRIVE THROUGH QUEUES, HAVE ENOUGH SPACE. 
          WE HAVE MORE OFF STREET PARKING AND MORE DRIVE THROUGH STACKING CAPABILITIES THAN ANY OF THOSE OTHER CHICK-FIL-AS, WHICH LED TO THE, THE ORIGINAL NEGATIVE DECLARATION. 
          THE YONKERS FACILITY, UM, GAVE US ALSO SOME, SOME MORE DATA AT ITS PEAK, DURING GRAND OPENING PERIOD, THERE WAS 46 TO 52 VEHICLES. 
          UH, AS PHIL WILL GET INTO A LITTLE LATER, THE GRAND OPENING PLAN FOR THIS SITE AT STAGE B. 
          SO NOT AT ITS FULLEST CAPACITY. 
          THIS SITE HAS THE ABILITY TO HANDLE 55 CARS WHILE STILL ALLOWING INTERNAL CIRCULATION FOR EVERYONE ELSE. 
          SO EVEN NOT AT MAX CAPACITY OF EMERGENCY QUEUING, WE CAN STILL HANDLE ON THIS SITE WHAT WE SAW IN YONKERS. 
          UM, AND AT ITS MAX CAPACITY, UH, WHICH WE DEMONSTRATED AS KIND OF THE WORST CASE SCENARIO OF STACKING. 
          IT WAS 64 VEHICLES, WE COULD FIT ON THIS SITE AT THAT POINT. 
          AS, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT NOTED, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE CLOSING DOWN ALL ACCESS POINTS. 
          THERE WAS A ORIGINAL CONDITION. 
          THIS BOARD WAS CONTEMPLATING THAT 
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ONCE WE REACH THAT MAX Q AND THE SITE IS SO FILLED AND NO ONE CAN COME IN OR CAN COME OUT, THAT'S WHEN THE TEAM MEMBERS WILL SHUT DOWN THE ACCESS POINTS. 
          MORE THAN LIKELY AT THAT POINT, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, WE HEED THEIR ADVICE. 
          ONE OF THE, THE THINGS THAT CHICK-FIL-A DOES IN ALL THEIR LOCATIONS IS WORK WITH, UH, LOCAL POLICE OFFICERS FOR THIS GRAND OPENING PERIOD. 
          UM, THE NEW TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN SETS UP A MEETING WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT 30 DAYS IN ADVANCE OF OPENING, UH, OFF-DUTY. 
          POLICE OFFICERS WILL BE HIRED AND PAID FOR BY CHICK-FIL-A TO MONITOR TO MAKE SURE THINGS RUN SMOOTHLY, TO MAKE SURE THERE'S NO BACKUPS ON THE RIGHT OF WAY AT ALL. 
          SO, I'LL HAND IT OVER TO PHIL TO WALK YOU THROUGH THE DIFFERENT STAGES OF THE GRAND OPENING PLAN AND DISCUSS WHAT, UH, HIS OBSERVATIONS AT THE YONKERS FACILITY ANYWHERE. 
          UH, GOOD EVENING, PHILIP GREELEY, COLLIERS ENGINEERING AND DESIGN. 
          UH, JUST VERY BRIEFLY BEFORE, UH, I GET INTO, UH, THAT INFORMATION FOR THE NEW BOARD MEMBER. 
          UM, JUST SO YOU'RE AWARE, UH, THERE ARE OFFSITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT CHICK-FIL-A WILL BE DOING IN ASSOCIATION WITH THIS APPLICATION TO IMPROVE TRAFFIC, UH, ON OLD KENSICO ROAD WILL BE WIDENED. 
          IT'LL BE WIDENED TO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL LANE APPROACHING ROUTE ONE 19, AND IT'LL ALSO BE WIDENED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL WIDTH, UH, IN THE NORTHBOUND DIRECTION TO ALLOW, UH, FOR TWO VEHICLES SIDE BY SIDE. 
          UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING THROUGH OUR PERMITS WITH NEW YORK STATE DOT, AND ALSO WITH THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THIS SIGNAL AT, UM, UH, TARRYTOWN ROAD, OLD KENCO AND AQUEDUCT IS PART OF THE CITY SYSTEM, THE ADAPTIVE SYSTEM. 
          SO THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WILL BE IMPLEMENTED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. 
          UH, THEY WILL BE FUNDED AND PAID FOR BY CHICK-FIL-A UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT OF A BACKGROUND IN TERMS OF OFFSITE UH, CONDITIONS. 
          UM, WE HAD DEVELOPED A, UH, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN. 
          UH, CHARLIE HAS ACTUALLY GONE THROUGH A LOT OF THE DETAILS OF IT. 
          UM, THE, UH, SITE UNDER NORMAL CONDITIONS, UH, CAN STACK, UH, APPROXIMATELY 33 VEHICLES WITHIN THE QUEUING AREA. 
          AND THAT WOULD KEEP ALL PARKING AREAS OPEN, UH, DURING THE GRAND OPENING, UH, PERIOD. 
          AND AT PEAK TIMES, IT'S NOT JUST FOR GRAND OPENING. 
          IF THERE'S AN EVENT THAT COUNTY CENTER OR THERE'S SOME OTHER OCCURRENCE, THIS PLAN WILL BE IN EFFECT, NOT ONLY FOR THE INITIAL OPENING, BUT ALSO FOR TIMES THAT MAY OCCUR WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON IN THE AREA, GRADUATIONS OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. 
          UM, THE WAY THE PLAN IS SET UP, UH, AND THIS IS THE, THE FIRST STAGE OF THE PLAN, AND THERE'S A, UH, DESCRIPTION, UH, THAT GOES ALONG FOR DIRECTIONS FOR THE TEAM MEMBERS. 
          UM, WHEN THE GRAND OPENING OCCURS, CHICK-FIL-A ACTUALLY HAS A TEAM THAT COMES IN AND TRAINS THE NEW TEAM MEMBERS SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO, UH, IMPLEMENT THE PLAN AND HOW TO, UH, PROCESS AND, AND, AND, UH, MAKE ADJUSTMENTS ACCORDINGLY. 
          UH, THIS PARTICULAR PLAN ALSO, UH, UTILIZES, UH, CONES, UH, IN THE PARKING AREA. 
          THE WESTERLY MOST DRIVE AISLE OR PARKING SPACES, UH, IN THE GRAND OPENING PLANT WILL ACTUALLY BE CONED OFF. 
          AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN TWEAKED IN DISCUSSIONS WITH, UH, THE SERGEANT AND WITH JOHN, UH, TO FINE TUNE THE PROCEDURES TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT AREA IS AVAILABLE FOR THE QUEUING DURING THE, UH, GRAND OPENING PLAN. 
          SO ONCE THE QUEUE EXTENDS UNDER THE NORMAL CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THEN UP TO THAT AREA LABEL THERE, UH, THIS PLAN WE HAVE STACKING FOR 41 VEHICLES, UM, ON THIS PARTICULAR PLAN UP TO POINT B, UP TO POINT B. 
          AND ONCE THE THERE, THE FIRST LABEL IS POINT A. 
          SO ONCE THE QUEUING STARTS TO EXTEND TO THAT POINT, AND AGAIN, IN THOSE QUEUE LINES IS WHERE THE TEAM MEMBERS WITH THEIR PADS TAKE THE ORDERS AND, AND START PROCESSING. 
          ONCE IT REACHES POINT A, THEN, UM, ADDITIONAL TEAM MEMBERS WOULD BE INVOLVED TO ACCOMMODATE THAT ADDITIONAL QUEUING AREA. 
          WHO IS NOTICING THAT? WHO'S PAYING ATTENTION TO SAY, OH, LOOK, IT'S HITTING A, THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE OPERATOR, UH, IN, IN THE, IN THE STORE AND THE TEAM MEMBERS. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS 
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IS THE TEAM MEMBERS THAT ARE TAKING THE ORDERS, ONCE THE QUEUE STARTS TO GET TO POINT A, THEY NOTIFY, OKAY, WE NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER TEAM MEMBER COME OUT AND IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM. 
          NOW, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THOSE CONES WILL ALREADY BE IN PLACE, SO IT'S ALREADY THAT STEP WAS KIND OF REMOVED. 
          'CAUSE ORIGINALLY WE HAD IT, WE WERE, THE CONES WOULD THEN BE PUT OUT ONCE IT REACHED A, THAT AREA IS GONNA BE CLOSED OFF FROM THE BEGINNING. 
          UM, AND THEN, BUT, BUT IF, IF YOU'RE DOING IT DOWN THE ROAD YES. 
          SAY, SAY THERE'S AN EVENT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND SUDDENLY, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOT'S FILLING UP IF CARS ARE ALREADY PARKED THERE ALONG THE WESTERN, UH, PART OF THE PARKING. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO, SO HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT? SO A A COUPLE THINGS. 
          NUMBER ONE IS, UM, EVENTS AT THE COUNTY CENTER. 
          UH, WE ARE HAVE THIS SCHEDULE OF EVENTS SO WE KNOW WHEN THINGS ARE OCCURRING, LIKE WHEN THE WESTCHESTER NICKS OR, UH, GRADUATIONS. 
          SO THEY'LL BE DONE IN ADVANCE WHERE THOSE CONES WILL BE DETERMINED WHETHER THEY WILL BE PUT OUT IN THOSE SPACES BLOCKED OFF EVEN BEFORE IT OCCURS. 
          SO, UM, THE WAY THAT THIS IS SET UP, AND AGAIN, THROUGH THE FIRST, UH, SIX MONTHS, WE ARE GONNA BE GOING THROUGH MONITORING. 
          SO WE WILL KIND OF SEE WHEN THIS OCCURS, AND WE'LL BE IN CO CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THE POLICE ARE GONNA BE PART OF THE GRAND OPENING AND ASSISTING, UH, DURING THOSE CONDITIONS. 
          AND THAT'LL ALL BE PAID FOR BY CHICK-FIL-A OF COURSE, UM, IN TERMS OF THE STACKING AREA. 
          SO ONCE WE REACH POINT, UH, B, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL AREA THERE TO STACK. 
          AND AS TROLLEY INDICATED, WE CAN HAVE UP TO 55 VEHICLES STACKED IN THAT AREA. 
          THE DRIVEWAY ON COUNTIES, UH, ON, UH, OLD KENCO ROAD, UH, ON THEIR, WE, IF WE EVER START GETTING TO THAT AREA, WOULD THEN BE CLOSED OFF AND TRAFFIC WOULD BE DIRECTED. 
          THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ENTER AT THAT POINT. 
          THEY WOULD BE DIRECTED UP TO THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE AROUND TO THE COUNTY CENTER ROAD DRIVEWAY. 
          SO BASICALLY WHEN IT'S, WHAT IS, IS THAT POINT C CORRECT, WHICH IS JUST ABOUT WHERE THE CURB CUT IS FOR CORRECT. 
          KENS THEN, THEN THE OLD KENCO ROAD DRIVEWAY, UH, WOULD BE CLOSED OFF WITH CONES, THE SIGN PUT OUT DIRECTING TRAFFIC TO CONTINUE TOWARDS THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, MAKE A RIGHT TURN ONTO COUNTY CENTER ROAD AND ENTER AT THAT DRIVEWAY. 
          SO IT'S A, IT'S A CLOCKWISE, UH, CIRCULATION PATTERN TO GET VEHICLES INTO THE SITE. 
          NOW, UH, DO YOU ANTICIPATE A POLICE PRESENCE AT THAT DRIVEWAY AT THAT TIME? BECAUSE I CAN IMAGINE YES. 
          SOME POOR YOUNG GUY PUTTING CONES OUT. 
          CORRECT. 
          HUMMER, , ANYTHING, ANYTHING? THE, THE TEAM MEMBERS CAN ONLY FUNCTION ON THE SITE PROPERTY AND AT THE DRIVEWAY. 
          SO THE COORDINATION WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS CRITICAL HERE BECAUSE, AND, AND THIS IS WHAT WE EXPERIENCED. 
          I'LL GET INTO A LITTLE BIT OF THE, THE WHAT WE, YOU'VE DONE IT A MILLION TIMES, I'M JUST ASKING. 
          UNCLEAR. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, UM, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WOULD OCCUR. 
          THE, THE POLICE WOULD BE INVOLVED WITH THAT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO CONTINUE. 
          SORRY. 
          AND THEN, UM, SO AT THAT POINT, WE HAVE, I BELIEVE AROUND 55 VEHICLES STACKED IN THAT AREA. 
          ONCE THAT DRIVEWAY WAS CLOSED OFF. 
          AND, AND AS CHARLIE HAD MENTIONED, CHICK-FIL-A HAS FOUND THAT WHEN YOU GET INTO THAT 40 RANGE IS WHERE PEOPLE REALIZE THAT IT'S EASIER TO ORDER ON YOUR PHONE, GO IN AND PICK UP YOUR MEAL THAN TO STAY IN THAT QUEUE. 
          THAT'S KIND OF THE, THE SWEET SPOT IN TERMS OF, I'M GONNA PARK AND GO IN AND GET MY MEAL. 
          UM, BUT THIS PLAN HAS 55 VEHICLES. 
          THE NEXT PLAN WE WOULD GO TO IS, SO ONCE THE DRIVEWAY IS CLOSED OFF, WE HAVE ADDITIONAL QUEUING AREA. 
          BECAUSE THE KEY HERE IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SPILL BACK ONTO THE ROADWAY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND, UH, THIS PLAN NOW IS WITH THE OLD KENCO ROAD DRIVEWAY CLOSED, WE PICK UP ADDITIONAL STACKING. 
          THIS PLAN HAS UP TO 64 VEHICLES STACKED AND STILL ALLOWING PEOPLE TO GET TO THE PARKING SPACES ON THE SITE. 
          SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE WIDTH OF THOSE ANGLED SPACES IN THE INNER AREA, IN THE INNER CORE, PEOPLE CAN STILL ACCESS THAT. 
          THEY CAN BACK OUT. 
          THERE'S ADEQUATE ROOM FOR THEM TO BACK OUT AND CIRCULATE AND GET OFF THE SITE. 
          SO WHILE THAT STACKING OCCURS, UM, THE PARKING CAN STILL BE UTILIZED, UM, UNDER AN EXTREME CONDITION. 
          WE COULD ACTUALLY, WE HAVE AN ALTERNATE PLAN. 
          WE COULD GET UP TO 67 VEHICLES. 
          BUT AGAIN, THAT'S, WE, 
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WE DON'T SEE THAT OCCURRING. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE WAS A NEED TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF THE ROADWAY, WE COULD, YOU KNOW, UH, GET THEM TO PARK IN, UH, OTHER AREAS. 
          SO THAT, THAT LEADS US TO, AND AGAIN, THE, THE, THE POLICE CONTROL WOULD BE COORDINATED IN THIS CONDITION. 
          AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, IT'S SET UP TO HAVE A MEETING ABOUT 30 DAYS PRIOR TO THE GRAND OPENING TO REVIEW THE PROCEDURE SO THAT EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD, AND THEN WE'LL BE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION. 
          SO, UM, HOW MANY POLICE POSTING THINGS DO YOU EXPECT? SIMILAR TO WHAT OCCURRED IN YONKERS, WHICH I WANT TO GET INTO NEXT. 
          UH, THERE WERE TWO POLICE OFFICERS INVOLVED PRIMARILY THERE. 
          SO WE WOULD EXPECT THE SIMILAR, IF IT NEEDS TO BE MORE, WE WOULD COORDINATE THAT. 
          THE, THE, THE SERGEANT WOULD GIVE US DIRECTION ON THAT. 
          I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT FOR TOO LONG. 
          WE DO SEE ON THIS PLAN THAT'S BEFORE YOU AND RIGHT NEAR WHERE THE HAND CURSOR IS A PC, I BELIEVE, FOR POLICE CONTROL. 
          CORRECT. 
          UM, GIVEN THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT POLICE CONTROL AT THE OLD KENSICO ROAD ENTRANCE, WHEN THAT GETS CLOSED OFF, IT MAKES SENSE. 
          WE CAN INDICATE THAT AND JUST WE CAN INDICATE, INDICATE THAT ALSO. 
          OKAY. 
          YES. 
          YEAH. 
          WE JUST DON'T WANT ANYONE ABSOLUTELY IN DANGER OR, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO CRASH THROUGH THEIR UNDERSTOOD. 
          NOT THAT PEOPLE WOULD EVER DO WHAT THEY DID IS THEY ACTUALLY PARKED THE CAR THERE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          SO WE WERE ENVISIONING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, MAYBE SIMILAR TO LIGHTS, SOMETHING SIMILAR. 
          I MEAN, MY, AS BEAUTIFUL AS ALL OF THIS IS, AND WE'LL HEAR FROM JOHN, ANYONE COMING TO THE STORE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS. 
          UNDERSTOOD. 
          THEY JUST WANT TO GET THERE. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          MAYBE PEOPLE CAN BE A LITTLE ABSOLUTELY IMPATIENT. 
          AND THAT'S, SO I, I WILL KIND OF, THAT'S A PERFECT LEAD INTO WHAT WE OBSERVED AT YONKERS. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          LET ME JUST STOP ONE SECOND. 
          YOU HAD A QUESTION THOUGH. 
          YES. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE CONE PROCESS, YOU KNOW, I, I CAN SEE HOW THAT WOULD WORK FOR THE, THE GRAND OPENING, BUT MM-HMM. 
           MOVING FORWARD FOR COUNTY CENTER EVENTS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE CONE WHEN THE CONE IS NECESSARY MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LESS PREDICTABLE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, HAD THERE BEEN ANY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT POSSIBLY HAVING A, A PERMANENT STRIPING OR SOME SORT OF PERMANENT MARKING TO KNOW? SO THIS IS ZONE A, ZONE B, ZONE C. 
          IN, IN, IN THE MANAGEMENT PLAN IT'S SPELLED OUT THERE'D ACTUALLY BE PRE-MARKED ON THE PAVEMENT. 
          OKAY. 
          THE LOCATIONS AND THE POSITIONING OF THE COLUMNS ALSO. 
          SO IT'S, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF NECESSARY DECISION MAKING. 
          IT'S OKAY, CO'S HERE, HERE AND HERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO THAT WOULD ALREADY BE WORKED. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S SPELLED OUT IN THE WRITTEN DESCRIPTION THAT GOES TOGETHER WITH THESE PLANS. 
          UM, I'M SORRY, ETTE, DID YOU HAVE ONE MORE? I THINK, UH, WHAT YOU ARE SHOWING IT AND WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A, A CREATING A SOLUTION FOR WHEN THE WHITE PLANE SAID, NO, YOU CAN'T COME THERE. 
          SO IT'S A MORE OF A SQUEEZING SOME MORE, UH, PARKING THAT'S GOING TO BE OTHERWISE NOT THAT MUCH BACK LIKE THREE, THREE, UH, THREE CAR DEPTH FOR ALL THIS, I DON'T KNOW, JUST MAYBE ALMOST, UH, UH, 25, 30 CARS. 
          AND MY, BUT MY JUST GENERAL, UH, I MEAN, IT LOOKS WONDERFUL. 
          YOU CAN, YOU CAN DRAW ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO DRAW THERE, BUT PEOPLE DON'T BEHAVE THE WAY, BUT THEY ARE PARTICULARLY ARE SO, SO CRAZY TO GET IN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          . 
          SO, UH, OF COURSE I'M GONNA GET, UH, JOHN, UH, KIND OF CHIME ON IT, BUT, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, YOU ARE MAKING A WORLD TO WAR, WHOLE PARKING AREA COVERED MM-HMM. 
          . 
          NOW, USUALLY WHAT HAPPENS IS WHEN THINGS GO GO WRONG, IT DOES GO WRONG. 
          SO THE GUYS WHO PROBABLY HAS CAR BREAKS DOWN AND HE NEEDS TO REALLY GOING TO CREATE A MAJOR MESS TO, HE NEEDS TO BE MOVED OUT, MAYBE A TOW MM-HMM. 
           TOW TRUCK COMES IN AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT CAR, TOW TRUCK CAN COME IN EVEN SO IT WILL BE COMPLETELY PARALYZED AND PANIC INSIDE THE CHICK-FIL-A FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY HOURS. 
          YES. 
          SO THAT'S ONE KIND OF CRAZY SCENARIO. 
          AND, AND MM-HMM, . 
          AND WHAT'S THE PROBABILITY? UH, I THINK IT S PRINCIPLE, IF IT'S GOING TO GO WRONG, IT WILL GO WRONG MORE THAN WE THINK ABOUT IT. 
          SECOND THING, WHAT HAPPENS IF THERE IS A, SOME EMERGENCY VEHICLE OR AMBULANCES TO BRING IN, BUT SOMEBODY HAS A FIGHT OR SOMEBODY HAS A HEART ATTACK HEALTH ISSUE? MM-HMM. 
          , HOW ARE YOU GOING HANDLE IT? OKAY. 
          SO THAT'S WHY I TOOK, CAN I JUMP IN THERE JUST FOR ONE SECOND? AND I KNOW YOU WANNA GET TO YONKERS. 
          AND SO THIS WAS AN ISSUE THAT WAS RAISED BY, UH, SERGEANT FONTANELLES. 
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AND THE PLAN UP THERE WOULD NOT BE IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT THE EXPRESS AUTHORITY OF THE POLICE THAT WERE THERE AT THE TIME. 
          SO THE POLICE, GREENBERG POLICE, SO THIS, WE CAN GET INTO THE, THE SPECIFICS OF WHEN THIS WILL BE NEEDED. 
          UM, BUT IT'S ENVISIONED BASED ON THE DATA, WE CAN GET INTO THE DATA A LITTLE BIT, THAT THIS WILL ONLY BE NEEDED FOR THE GRAND OPENING. 
          IT WON'T BE NEEDED ON A REGULAR BASIS. 
          UH, YOU MAY IMPLEMENT TWO PAGES BACK WHERE YOU HAVE THREE QUARTERS OF THE WAY DOWN THE PARKING AISLE. 
          THE DATA INDICATE THAT YOU WON'T EVEN DO THAT. 
          BUT WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT HERE WILL ONLY BE FOR THE GRAND OPENING. 
          THE POLICE WILL BE THERE FOR THE GRAND OPENING. 
          AND SERGEANT FONTELLA SAID THAT THEY MAY NOT PERMIT IF THEY FEEL IT'S UNSAFE, THEY MAY NOT PERMIT THE 64 OR THE 67 VEHICLES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , THEY'LL STOP IT AT 55 AND THEY'LL TELL PEOPLE, YOU'VE GOTTA GO OUT, WE'RE IN CHARGE. 
          NOW THERE'S TOO MANY PEOPLE HERE. 
          AND THE POLICE WILL TELL PEOPLE, YOU COME BACK LATER, COME BACK, COME BACK LATER, BACK. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND, AND AN ORDER. 
          WELL, YES, YOU'D BE GIVEN THE CHOICE TO PARK AN ORDER PRESUMING THAT THERE'S PARKING AVAILABLE. 
          SO WHAT'S THE PLAN B IF THIS DOESN'T WORK? BECAUSE THINGS, I MEAN THIS, I THINK IF YOU HAVE TWO POLICE ON SITE, WHICH I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND, MM-HMM. 
          , UH, AND, AND I WAS THERE AT YONKERS LUNCH WHEN IT OPENED. 
          UM, I THINK THEY ARE CAPABLE OF MAKING THE DECISIONS FOR WHAT IS THE SAFEST AND WHAT'S THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION. 
          I MEAN, IF AN AMBULANCE HAS TO COME IN, I'M SURE THEY WILL YEAH. 
          HELP PEOPLE TO GET OUT THE WAY. 
          THAT'S THEIR FIRST AND FOREMOST PRIORITY IS SAFETY. 
          I MEAN, THAT'S GOOD. 
          YOU'RE NOT LEAVING IT UP TO JUST THE PEOPLE WHO WERE THERE. 
          YES. 
          CORRECT. 
          TRYING TO GET THEIR SAMPLES. 
          SO, SO WORST CASE CONDITION, SOMETHING BAD HAPPENS, SOMETHING GOES ON FIRE, SOMEBODY NEEDS AN AMBULANCE, THE POLICE BASICALLY TAKE CHARGE. 
          THEY CALL FOR AN AMBULANCE, THEY CALL FOR BACKUP, AND THEY TELL EVERYBODY, YOU GOTTA LEAVE NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          WHETHER YOU'VE PLACED YOUR ORDER OR NOT. 
          ALSO JUST KIND OF A TRICKY LOCATION. 
          YOU'VE GOT, WE HAVE A, UH, WHITE PLAINS POLICE. 
          MM-HMM. 
           ON ONE SIDE, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHETHER, WHETHER, WHETHER THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND WHITE PLAINS, BECAUSE APPARENTLY WHITE PLAINS DOESN'T LIKE TO HAVE YOU THERE. 
          . 
          SO, SO, SO WE, WE WENT DOWNLOADED TO HAVE A, THE OPERATIONS CONFUSION, OPERATIONAL CONFUSION BETWEEN, BETWEEN THE TWO TOWN AND, AND THE POLI. 
          UH, PEOPLE ON THE CHERRYTOWN ROAD AND BEYOND HAS TO SUFFER. 
          SO WE SPOKE WITH SERGEANT FONTAN ELLIS OF GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAFFIC AND SAFETY. 
          THE TWO CURB CUTS THAT, UM, ARE INVOLVED WITH THE QUEUE ARE BOTH IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          SO IT WOULD BE TOWN OF GREENBURG OFF-DUTY POLICE IN ALL LIKELIHOODS STATIONED AT EACH AND IN CONTROL OF THE SITUATION FROM A SITE SAFETY PERSPECTIVE. 
          CORRECT. 
          AND THE ENTIRE OPERATIONAL PART OF THE BUSINESS IS IN GREENBERG. 
          CORRECT. 
          BUT I, I WOULD RECOMMEND STILL TO HAVE A, SOME INPUT FROM THE, UH, THE WHITE BLINKS MM-HMM. 
           TO, TO GIVE US SAY SORT OF LIKE THEY SAY THAT'S, THAT'S A, THAT BECAUSE THIS IS, I UNDERSTAND IT'S LIKE ONCE IN A YES. 
          I MEAN, UH, MOST LIKELY DON'T HAPPEN, BUT LATELY WITH, WITH EVERYTHING, UH, LIKE, UH,  UNDERSTOOD EVERYTHING WHICH NOBODY HAS EVER IMAGINED IS HAPPENING. 
          SO, UH, SO THAT OTHER PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE A COLLATERAL DAMAGE ON IT. 
          THAT'S ONLY MY CONCERN. 
          WE, WE'VE ALSO COORDINATED THIS WITH THE WHITE PLAINS TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT ALSO, AND THE REVIEW OF THE PLAN. 
          AND, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S ALL BEEN WORKED INTO THIS AS IT IS NOW. 
          YEAH. 
          IT'LL GIVE US A LOT MORE COMFORT LEVEL. 
          SO LET'S HEAR ABOUT YONKERS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA JUMP TO YONKERS. 
          AND IT'S A, IT'S A KIND OF A PERFECT EXAMPLE OF HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TOOK CONTROL IN YONKERS. 
          THERE WAS A GRAND OPENING PLANT. 
          IT WASN'T AS DETAILED AS THIS. 
          IT, UH, HAD TWO DRIVEWAYS. 
          UM, THERE, THERE WERE COMPETING, UH, CONDITIONS OF KEEPING TRAFFIC OUT OF A NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND, UH, WHEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAW THE SURGE THAT OCCURRED THE FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS OF, OF THAT FACILITY. 
          OKAY, I SAW THAT TOO. 
          THEY CLOSED OFF THE DRIVEWAY ON ROXBURY DRIVE, AND THEY MADE THE DETERMINATION THAT THE BEST PATTERN WAS TO HAVE VEHICLES QUEUE ALONG CENTRAL PARK AVENUE IN THE SHOULDER LANE. 
          AND I'VE PROVIDED PICTURES OF WHERE YOU CAN SEE THE QUEUE OUT ON CENTRAL PARK AVENUE. 
          UM, HOWEVER, THERE WERE CARS THAT BYPASSED THAT LANE AND CORRECT. 
          THEY WERE NOW PARALLEL TO THAT, TRYING TO GET IN AT THE SAME TIME. 
          CORRECT. 
          TWO LANES. 
          THERE WAS ONLY ONE LANE LEFT, CORRECT. 
          OUT. 
          SO, SO AGAIN, AT THE OPENING, AT THE OPENING FIRST DAY, THE VERY FIRST DAY WAS THAT. 
          AND, AND THEN 
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AT AS TIME WENT ON AND, AND EVEN ON THAT DAY, THERE WERE ADJUSTMENTS MADE BY THE POLICE ON SITE. 
          SO THAT WAS, OTHER THAN THE, UH, FACILITY THAT'S ON THE THROUGHWAY, THAT WAS THE FIRST STORE OPENING IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY. 
          UH, BUT SHORTLY THEREAFTER, THE, UH, FACILITY IN THE MIDWAY SHOPPING PLAZA OPENED, UM, AND IT, IT HELPED THE LOAD SPREAD OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, WE WENT BACK SUBSEQUENT DAYS, BASICALLY EVERY WEEK FOR THE NEXT THREE WEEKS TO SEE WHAT WAS OCCURRING. 
          THERE WERE NO MORE SPILL BACKS OUT ONTO THE ROADWAY DURING CERTAIN TIME PERIODS. 
          THE POLICE STILL DECIDED TO CLOSE THE ROXBURY DRIVE, UH, ENTRANCE AT, AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY FOR THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS. 
          THEY NO LONGER ARE, ARE IMPLEMENTING THAT. 
          UM, AND THE PATTERN, AND MAYBE PART OF IT WAS PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, COMING BACK OR REPEAT CUSTOMERS KNEW WHAT THE PATTERN WAS. 
          AND WHAT WE OBSERVED ON THE SITE, UH, WAS FEWER THAN, UH, 30 VEHICLES QUEUING AT THE DRIVE THROUGH. 
          PEOPLE WERE PARKING AND QUEUING. 
          AND, AND PRETTY MUCH AFTER TWO WEEKS, IT STABILIZED AT ABOUT 25 CARS PARKED AND ABOUT 25 TO 30 CARS IN THE QUEUE. 
          THAT WAS THE, THE RANGE. 
          AND I THINK PEOPLE, AND AGAIN, THIS IS WHAT, WHAT CHICK-FIL-A WAS SEEING IS, UM, WHEN YOU GET TO A CERTAIN POINT, PEOPLE WILL PARK ORDER AND GO IN AND PICK UP THEIR ORDER. 
          SO, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR EXPERIENCE IN YONKERS NOW IS EVERYTHING HAS BEEN STABILIZED. 
          THE PATTERN SEEMS TO WORK FINE. 
          UH, WE'RE, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH BACK TO THEIR STANDARD OPERATIONS. 
          UH, BUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THERE DID A, DID A GOOD JOB AND OR TWO THAT WAS JUST A, A TOTAL SURGE. 
          EVERYTHING WAS, UH, HANDLED PRETTY WELL THERE. 
          AND WE'VE PROVIDED DOCUMENTATION. 
          YOU CAN SEE THERE'S PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE BACKUPS ON THAT FIRST DAY. 
          UH, AND THEN WE HAVE PHOTO PHOTOGRAPHS OF, OF OUR OBSERVATIONS BOTH MIDDAY AND IN THE EVENING, UH, FOR SUBSEQUENT VISITS AT, AT THAT SITE. 
          SO AT THIS POINT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO COORDINATE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, AND AGAIN, CALL IT A WORK IN PROGRESS, BUT THERE WAS, UH, THE LAST MEETING WE HAD WITH JOHN AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, FINE TUNED AS A COUPLE OF ITEMS THAT I THINK, UH, MAKE IT EVEN A BETTER PLAN. 
          I I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS IF I MAY OR NO, DO YOU WANNA GO, GO AHEAD. 
          AT WHAT POINT WILL THE ROAD, THE OLD KENCO ROAD, WILL O OLD KENSICO ROAD BE WIDENED AND THAT LIGHT REPLACED OR OPTIMIZED? OKAY. 
          BECAUSE ALL OF THAT WORK HAS TO BE COMPLETED BEFORE WE OPEN THE STORE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO, TO, HAS TO BE DONE. 
          LIKE, INSIST ON, IT'S A CONDITION OF THE PERMIT WITH THE DOT AND IT'S WITH THE CITY TOO. 
          AND SO THIS LOCATION IS CLOSER TO A LOT MORE OFFICES, I BELIEVE, THAN YONKERS, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S A TON OF HOUSING GOING UP THERE AS WELL. 
          YES. 
          HOW ARE THE DELIVERY SERVICES HANDLED IN THIS PLAN? LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYONE DECIDES, HEY, I'M NOT GONNA GO SIT IN THAT TRAFFIC, BUT YOU HAVE 50 DOORDASH DRIVERS OUT THERE, OR YOU KNOW, GRUBHUB, WHATEVER YOU USE, HOW DO THEY FIT INTO THE WHOLE CIRCULATION? SO IN, IN TERMS OF THE, UH, DROP OFF, I MEAN THE, THE PAR THE PARKING AND PICKUPS, UM, YOU KNOW, BOTH DRIVEWAYS ARE USED FOR ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY. 
          THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO USE THE PARKING AREA. 
          THAT'S ONLY FOR THE TEAM MEMBERS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT'S IN WHITE PLAINS, SO EVERYTHING OCCURS ON OUR SITE. 
          ON OUR SITE. 
          UH, BOTH DRIVEWAYS WILL BE UTILIZED IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE DELIVERIES OF, UH, SUPPLIES WOULD BE OFF PEAK. 
          THAT WOULD NOT BE PEAK. 
          NO. 
          WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE COMING IN TO PICK UP FOOD. 
          OH, TO PICK UP THEIR ORDERS. 
          MAYBE THEY'RE DOING FIVE DIFFERENT ORDERS AT THE SAME TIME. 
          DO THEY HAVE SPECIAL PARKING OR IS THERE A PLACE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, SET ASIDE WHERE THEY JUST GRAB THE BAGS AND GO? I MEAN, HOW QUICK DOES THAT TURN OVER? SO THERE ARE SPACES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED FOR PICKUP, AND AGAIN, THAT'LL BE, I THINK, FINE TUNED OVER TIME. 
          YOU'LL SEE IT AT, AT CERTAIN SITES WHERE, UH, CERTAIN TIMES OF THE DAY WHERE SPACES ARE EARMARKED FOR THAT PURPOSE. 
          JUST TO ADD TO THAT TOO, THE KITCHEN IS ALREADY AT CAPACITY WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL DRIVE THROUGH. 
          AND WHAT THE OPERATOR OFTEN DOES IS THEY CAN EASILY TURN OFF THIRD PARTY DELIVERIES. 
          THEY CAN NOT TAKE, I HATE WHEN THAT HAPPENS. 
          I GET, YES, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN IT BEFORE THOUGH. 
          SO NINE OUT OF 10 OPENINGS 
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THAT IS TURNED OFF FOR GRAND OPENING PERIOD FOR THE FIRST TWO WEEKS, IT'S AT THE OPERATOR'S DISCRETION. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW OF HOW CONSIDER BUSINESS IS GOING. 
          BUT WHEN THE DRIVE THROUGH IS QUEUED UP, THEIR KITCHEN IS ALREADY AT MAX CAPACITY SO THEY CAN TURN OFF THOSE DIFFERENT THIRD PARTY SERVICES TO FOCUS ON THE CUSTOMERS THAT ARE AT THE STORE. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          AND YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD? SURE. 
          TIM, WITH VOLER ENGINEERING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANKS. 
          I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION BEFORE I, I TURN IT OVER TO ANYONE ELSE. 
          YEP. 
          HOW DO YOU PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PARKING THERE FOR THE COUNTY CENTER? WHO'S MONITORING THE PARKING LOT? YOU KNOW, SAY, BECAUSE WE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS YOU WERE HERE ONCE. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, THEY LIVE HALF A MILE DOWN THE ROAD AND PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO PARK ON THEIR LAWN, YOU KNOW, SO IF SOMEONE IS LATE AND THEY SAID, I'M JUST GONNA PULL INTO CHICK-FIL-A AND PARK THERE. 
          WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR PROCESS FOR DETERMINING WHO'S ACTUALLY THERE AND WHO'S BEEN THERE TOO LONG? WELL, I, WE HAVE, WELL, SIGNING NUMBER ONE, UH, THAT'S USUALLY THE FIRST DETERRENT. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER MEASURES WOULD BE, UH, TO JUST SEE THAT WHERE THE PEOPLE ARE GOING WHEN THEY PULL IN. 
          SO IN THE PEAK TIMES WE HAVE OUR TEAM MEMBERS AND THEN THERE WOULD BE A NOTIFICATION OF IF SOMEBODY PARKS THERE AND IS GOING ACROSS THE COUNTY CENTER, UM, THEY'LL, WE WILL KNOW THAT, UH, YOU DO HAVE STAFF OUTSIDE. 
          YEAH. 
          WHICH THAT MAKES CORRECT. 
          ON SITE, YEAH. 
          ON THE PROPERTY ONLY. 
          SO WHEN YOU SAY SIGNAGE, SOMETHING ALONG THE LINES OF, YOU KNOW, PARKING FOR CHICK-FIL-A CUSTOMERS ONLY, YOU KNOW, WILL BE TO UNAUTHORIZED USE. 
          YES. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          DYLAN THEN? YEAH. 
          SO, SO YOU, YOU MENTIONED THE IMPACT OF THE MIDWAY GRAND OPENING ON YONKERS DEMAND. 
          WHAT WAS THE IMPACT OF THE MIDWAY DEMAND DURING GRAND OPENING WITH HAVING THE YONKERS SITE OPEN? OKAY. 
          I REMEMBER AT ONE POINT IN A PREVIOUS, UH, YOU KNOW, HEARING, UH, THERE WAS, THERE WAS SORT OF THE, THE CONCEPT THAT, YOU KNOW, DEMAND WOULD BE THE HIGHEST IN YONKERS WHEN IT'S THE ONLY SITE. 
          BUT IF THE, THE MIDWAY AND THEN THIS SITE WERE TO BE APPROVED, THEY WOULD SORT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, SELF-REGULATE THEMSELVES. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , UH, UP AND DOWN CENTRAL AVENUE. 
          SO DID YOU SEE LESS OF A DEMAND WITH MIDWAY BECAUSE PEOPLE WERE SAYING, OH, MIDWAY'S TOO CROWDED. 
          I'M JUST GONNA GO TO, TO YONKERS? UM, FROM WHAT I OBSERVED, AND THERE MAY BE SOME MORE STATISTICS, BUT, UH, ONCE MIDWAY OPEN, AND AGAIN, EACH FACILITY'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, MIDWAY HAS, YOU KNOW, SEATS AND IT WAS MORE PICKUP. 
          YOU DON'T HAVE A DRIVE THROUGH THERE. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER CERTAIN CUSTOMERS PREFER TO GO TO THE DRIVE THROUGH OR CERTAIN CUSTOMERS SAY, I'M JUST GONNA GO AND, AND ORDER THERE 'CAUSE IT'S CLOSER FOR ME. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, AGAIN, EVEN THE GRAND OPENING AT MIDWAY, YOU SAW THERE WAS A LOT OF ACTIVITY, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE PANERA AND YOU HAVE THE OTHER FACILITIES THERE. 
          THERE'S A LOT GOING ON RIGHT. 
          IN THAT PARTICULAR LOCATION. 
          BUT I WOULD, YOU KNOW, I DON'T HAVE STATISTICS TO SUPPORT IT, BUT I WOULD SAY ONCE MIDWAY OPEN THERE WAS PART OF THAT, UH, PEAK, UH, PERKED UP DEMAND WAS SPREAD OUT. 
          SURE. 
          OKAY. 
          DID, UH, FOR THEFT, WAS THERE ANY REPORT OF, YOU KNOW, ISSUES, TRAFFIC ISSUES THERE FROM THE POLICE THAT YOU WERE AWARE OF? UM, NO. 
          ONLY THE ONLY THING I HAD HEARD WAS A LITTLE BIT OF CONFUSION 'CAUSE IT'S IN NEW, UH, ORIENTATION CONFIGURATION, THE TRAFFIC CIRCULATION IN THERE. 
          THERE WAS ONE RECOMMENDATION MADE BY TOWN STAFF FOR THE MIDWAY SHOPPING CENTER. 
          THERE'S A ONE WAY, UM, THAT WAS NEWLY IMPLEMENTED AND WHILE THERE'S SIGNAGE, THE RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THERE ALSO BE PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND OTHER MARKINGS TO MORE CLEARLY IDENTIFY THAT THERE'S A ONE WAY. 
          SO I THINK THERE WAS AN OBSERVATION THAT SOMEONE MAY HAVE BEEN TRAVELING THE WRONG WAY DOWN THE ONE WAY. 
          SO, UH, AND THAT WAS AN OBSERVATION MADE THE APPLICANT TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WAS AGREEABLE TO THAT, TO MAKING IT MORE CLEAR IN THE FIELD FOR THE DRIVERS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND, AND ONE JUST SORT OF FROM MY INFORMATION, WERE ANY, UH, PARKING VARIANCES NEEDED? DOES ZBA ISSUE ANY PARKING VARIANCES FOR THE SITE? OR THERE ARE 12 FOR THIS ONE? FOR YONKERS? NO, FOR, FOR WHAT? WHAT'S IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW? OH, TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FOR THE 20 TERRYTOWN ROAD SITE, THE APPLICANT REMAINS BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. 
          NO VARIANCES HAVE BEEN GRANTED AS OF YET. 
          HOWEVER, THE APPLICANT SEEKING, UM, VARIANCE FOR OFF STREET PARKING. 
          AND ARE THEY SEEKING BASED ON THE TOTAL SPOTS AVAILABLE OR THE TOTAL SPOTS? WHAT'S VARIANCE ON PLAN A, PLAN B? YEAH, WE CAN GO THROUGH THE VARIANCE. 
          SO IF THIS, LET'S HOLD ON THE VARIANCES FOR A SECOND. 
          IF YOU DON'T MIND. 
          LET'S GET THROUGH WHATEVER TRAFFIC QUESTIONS ARE. 
          I WANT HEAR FROM JOHN AS WELL. 
          THEN WE CAN GET INTO THE, THE VARIANCES. 
          GO AHEAD, JOHN. 
          INVADING PATIENT. 
          SO DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE TRAFFIC? NO, NO. 
          PLEASE. 
          NO, NO. 
          I, 
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I THINK IT'S, WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THE TRAFFIC. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE KNOW YOU ISSUED A MEMO. 
          WE'D JUST LOVE TO GET YOUR TAKE ON EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID, WHERE IT STANDS. 
          SO THERE'S, THERE'S TWO PRIMARY ISSUES. 
          THERE'S THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, AND THERE'S THE GRAND OPENING. 
          I'LL DEAL WITH THE EASY ONE FIRST, WHICH IS THE GRAND OPENING. 
          AND I, I WANT, I'M GONNA STATE SOMETHING ON THE RECORD, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M CORRECTED IF I'M NOT CORRECT. 
          UM, PRIOR TO THIS THE APPLICANT PROVIDED STUDIES FOR EIGHT FACILITIES THAT WERE MORE OR LESS SIMILAR. 
          AND SEVEN OF THE EIGHT HAD A MAXIMUM QUEUE THAT WAS 33 OR LESS. 
          AND ONE OF THEM HAD, WAS AN OUTLIER. 
          IT WAS 41, BUT IT WAS INCONSISTENT WITH ALL THE OTHER ONES. 
          I THINK IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN IN, UM, BURLINGTON OR SOMEWHERE LIKE THAT NOW. 
          AND THE BOARD WAS CONCERNED AT THE TIME, NOW WE HAVE NEW DATA FROM A VERY SIMILAR FACILITY IN THE SAME LOCATION. 
          AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ALL THE OTHER DATA. 
          THE MAXIMUM QUEUE THEY WERE OUT THERE FIVE OR SIX TIMES WAS 30 VEHICLES. 
          AND THE MAXIMUM QUEUE IN THE REGULAR DRIVE-THROUGH AREA IS 33 OR 35 VEHICLES. 
          SO ALL INDICATIONS ARE THAT DAY-TO-DAY ACTIVITIES WILL BE FINE. 
          SO, AND THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT THING. 
          UM, WHENEVER THERE'S SOMETHING NEW IN LIFE, IT BRINGS A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CHANGE AND DISCOMFORT, BUT IT, AS LONG AS IT PASSES QUICKLY AND WITHOUT INCIDENT, THEN WE CAN ALL FORGET ABOUT IT. 
          WE COULD GO ON ON A DAY-TO-DAY BUSINESS FOR YEARS AFTER THAT, HOPEFULLY WITH CHICK-FIL-A SO THEY'RE THE SAME SIZE COMPARABLE TO INVITE PLATES? UH, WELL, THEY'RE, UH, THEY'RE NOT THE SAME SIZE, BUT IT'S A, IT'S A TWO LANE DRIVE THROUGH AND THE KITCHEN IS PROBABLY THE SAME SIZE, BUT THAT FACILITY IS A SMALLER BUILDING BECAUSE IT HAS NO SEATING INSIDE. 
          AND THE Q UM, UH, Q CIRCULATION IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. 
          I DON'T THINK THEY HAVE 33 IN THEIR QUEUE. 
          SO IT'S NOT, AND IT'S, THEY HAVE LESS PARKING 'CAUSE THEY HAVE NO SEATS. 
          BUT THE PRINCIPLE IS THE SAME. 
          THEY'VE GOT THE TWO TWO DRIVE-THROUGHS. 
          AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CONCERNED WITH ABOUT HERE, PRIMARILY, UM, TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, UM, CHARLIE, YOU, YOU MADE A STATEMENT THAT WE'VE PROVIDED A NUMBER OF, UM, OF SURVEYS, OF GRAND OPENING DRIVE-THROUGH ACTIVITIES. 
          TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THE ONLY ONE WE REALLY HAVE GRAND OPENING QUEUES FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH IS YONKERS. 
          AND IT WAS 48 TO 52 VEHICLES. 
          46 TO 52 VEHICLES. 
          46 TO 52. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT WAS, SO I I, THE INDICATIONS ARE, AND YOU'VE SEEN THE PLAN, THE INDICATIONS ARE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE CAPACITY AND ON AN ONGOING BASIS, OR YOU SAYING FOR GRANTED, WELL, THERE'S WELL ADEQUATE CAPACITY FOR THE, YOU'VE SEEN THE PLAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S A THREE PHASE PLAN. 
          IF IT'S THE LEVEL OF YONKERS, IF IT'S THE LEVEL OF YONKERS RIGHT. 
          AND THERE'S MEASURES IN PLACE THAT IF IT'S MORE THAN THE LEVEL OF YONKERS, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN ALLOW THEM TO QUEUE UP A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          SO YONKERS HAD 52 AND YOU COULD, YOU COULD STUFF, IF YOU WANNA USE THE THAT WORD, 67 CARS IN THERE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY, AND THEY'VE AGREED TO IT. 
          IF THEY MAKE THE DETERMINATION THAT WHEN YOU GET TO 55, THAT'S ENOUGH, THEN THEY'LL JUST TELL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, YOU, IT'S UNSAFE TO LET MORE PEOPLE ON THE PROPERTY, YOU'LL HAVE TO COME BACK LATER. 
          YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S, THAT'S THAT'S GOOD NEWS. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING I JUST WANT TO, UH, AND, AND I'M NOT AS SURE ON THIS, UH, CHARLIE, BUT I DID GLANCE AT THE PARKING NUMBERS FROM THE OTHER FACILITIES. 
          AND WHILE THIS FACILITY HAS I THINK 79 REGULAR PARKING SPACES, NOT COUNTING THE, THE DRIVE-THROUGH QUEUE, THAT'S MORE THAN MOST OTHER OF THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT WE WERE PROVIDED. 
          BUT IT MIGHT NOT BE MORE THAN ALL OF THEM. 
          SO JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR, IT'S 70, 79 WIDTH, THE QUEUE SPACES, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S 30 AND 49. 
          I COULD BE, IT MAY BE. 
          IT'S, SO IT'S 30 AND UH, FOR EMPLOYEES OF 49 PARKING SPACES. 
          RIGHT. 
          DID I, DID I NOT SAY PARKING SPACES? I JUST WANT THEM TO GO THROUGH, THROUGH THAT. 
          WE JUST DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF THOSE WERE COUNTING THE QUEUE AS PARKING. 
          THAT WAS, I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU YEAH, BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING CREDIT FOR THE QUEUE. 
          SO THEY'RE GETTING CREDIT AND THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER CODE ISSUE. 
          BUT I'M TRYING TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES. 
          AND WHEN THEY PROVIDE INFORMATION FROM THE OTHER FACILITIES AND THEY SAY THERE'S 50, 60, 70 PARKING SPACES, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY'RE JUST REGULAR PARKING SPACES. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M COMPARING THE OTHER FACILITIES TO HERE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'LL HAVE THEM ADDRESS THAT. 
          YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISSUE. 
          I THINK THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE RECORD IS CLEAR THAT IT MAY NOT BE MORE THAN ALL OF THE OTHER FACILITIES. 
          IT'S MORE THAN MOST OF THEM. 
          YEAH. 
          IT WAS THE AVERAGES. 
          COULD WE PUT WHITE PLAINS ON THE CAN? CAN YOU PUT YEAH, 
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WE PUT WHITE PLAINS ON THE BOARD. 
          OH YEAH. 
          IT'S NOT WHITE PLANES OR GREEN GREENBURG GREENBERG. 
          WHICH ONE? GREENBERG? I HAVE THIS ONE. 
          YEAH, YEAH. 
          NO, NOT THAT TRUE, BUT SOMETHING THAT SHOWS THE, THE STACKING PLAN. 
          WELL, ONE DAY BEFORE YOU HAD IT MM-HMM. 
           FOR STACKING UP UP TO 67 CARS. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , WHICH IS LIKE A  SCENARIO. 
          YEAH. 
          YEAH. 
          SO ON THIS PLAN, THE, THE 55 VEHICLES ARE ALL THE RED VEHICLES. 
          THEN YOU'LL SEE IN PURPLE THERE WAS THE OVER 55 WHERE WE GOT UP TO 64 VEHICLES, UH, ON THE, THAT PLAN. 
          NOW AGAIN, BASED ON DISCUSSIONS WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE 55 IS KIND OF THE, THE SWEET POINT WHERE THEY'RE SAY, OKAY, WE, WE WILL MAKE A DETERMINATION IN THE FIELD WHETHER OR NOT WE WANT THAT TO BE UTILIZED OR WE WANT PEOPLE TO PARK OR GO AWAY. 
          THAT'S WHY WE SHOWED THEM IN A DIFFERENT COLOR. 
          MM-HMM. 
          , I MEAN, HONESTLY, IF I DROVE UP AND SAW THAT YOU'D KEEP GOING, UNLESS THEY'RE GIVING AWAY, YOU KNOW, FREE, FREE SANDWICHES, GOLD BARS, I WOULD SAY LET'S GO EAT SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          WHEN, WHEN IT'S NOT BRAND NEW, THE NOVELTY GOES AWAY AND IT'S, IT'S SELF-REGULATING THAT WAY. 
          YEAH. 
          DID YOU BUY IT'S TOO BUSY. 
          I'M COMING BACK TOMORROW. 
          YEAH. 
          I THINK REALLY BASED ON ALL THE NUMBERS, IT'S THE, THE GRAND OPENING. 
          THAT IS THE BIGGEST CONCERN. 
          THAT'S WHEN THE NEIGHBORS ARE FIRST GONNA HAVE THE EXPERIENCE OF THIS, YOU KNOW, BEING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. 
          AND WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE STUCK AND NOT BEING ABLE TO GET DOWN THE ROAD. 
          RIGHT. 
          I HAVE A COMMENT. 
          I'M DONE. 
          UNLESS YOU'RE ALL SET, JOHN. 
          I'M DONE. 
          ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR JOHN WHILE WE HAVE HIM? UH, BECAUSE I HAVE A GENERAL QUESTION. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          I HAVE ONE IS IT WOULD BE, UH, UH, KIND OF A SAFETY VALVE FOR THE CARS THAT THEY WANTED TO HAVE SOME PROBLEM TO GET OUT ON THAT EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT, SORT OF A REMOVABLE RAILING AND, AND A CURB CUT THAT'S, UH, ONLY, ONLY USED WHEN THERE IS A, IT'S A VERY D IT'S, THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN ELEVATION. 
          HOW MUCH FEET WE, WE, YEAH. 
          WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T. 
          A NUMBER OF FEET, SEVERAL FEET. 
          I REMEMBER WE ASKED THAT EARLY ON. 
          THERE'S 4 86. 
          YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. 
          SO THAT'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A WALL. 
          YEAH, THAT'S A WALL AND A RAILING ALSO. 
          YEAH. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THAT THERE'S SOME THOUGHT THAT'S DIFFICULT. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S SOME THOUGHT THERE WITH, UM, THE TWO LANE DRIVE THROUGH ALL THE WAY THROUGH TOO. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO WE'RE LOOKING AT A WORST CASE SCENARIO. 
          MAJORITY OF THE TIME IT'S NOT GONNA BE THIS MANY CARS AND COMPLETELY FALSE. 
          NO, I UNDERSTAND. 
          SO THERE, IF THERE IS A SITUATION IN THE DRIVE THROUGH, YOU COULD PULL THROUGH THAT SECOND LANE AND USE THE ONE LANE THAT'S NOT ENCUMBERED BY A VEHICLE AS YOUR EGRESS, BUT THEN IT REDUCES THE STACKING NUMBER OF VEHICLES BERATING. 
          IT DOES. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT DOES. 
          BUT THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME I UNDERSTAND IT'S, IT'S NOT A FULL DRIVE THROUGH. 
          SO C CORRECT. 
          YOU, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW A VALID POSSIBILITY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT COULD HAPPEN, BUT IT, IT'S KIND OF, I WOULD COMPARE IT TO EVERY TIME YOU GO ACROSS THE TAPAN SEA BRIDGE, THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT A TRACTOR TRAILER CARRYING A LOAD OF GRAVEL WILL TIP OVER AND CLOSE THE WHOLE BRIDGE. 
          RIGHT. 
          IT COULD, IT COULD HAPPEN. 
          IT DID HAPPEN. 
          AND IT DID HAPPEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT MY POINT IS, ONE, WE DON'T NOT GO ACROSS THE TAPLEY BRIDGE BECAUSE WE FIGURE OUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. 
          AND TWO, IT ONLY HAPPENS ONCE IN EVERY WHATEVER, TWO, THREE YEARS. 
          AND THIS GRAND OPENING WILL LAST TWO OR THREE WEEKS AT MOST. 
          SO THE CHANCES IT COULD STILL HAPPEN. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT THE CHANCES OF IT HAPPENING ARE, IN MY OPINION, PRETTY SLIM. 
          I'LL ALSO JUST ADD, ADD TO THAT. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S LIKE A, THERE'S A TENANT OF SECRET THAT WE CAN'T SPECULATE OF THINGS HAPPENING JUST AT THE MIC, IF YOU COULD, WE, WE CAN'T SPECULATE THAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING AND WE CAN'T POSSIBLY IMAGINE EVERY SINGLE PERCEIVABLE THING. 
          ONE OF THE FAMOUS CASES IS, IS, YOU KNOW, A TERRORIST ATTACK ON A, ON A, ON A CHICK-FIL-A OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT THAT'S A CASE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S OUT THERE. 
          AND THE COURTS SAY, WE DON'T, WE CAN'T PLAN FOR THAT. 
          SURE. 
          UM, SO IT'S, UH, WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WE'RE PRACTICALLY LOOKING FOR SOLUTIONS. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, WELL, WHEN YOU'RE DONE, UNLESS SOMEONE ELSE SAYS SOMETHING, I WANT TO GET TO THE, UM, VARIANCES AMENDED. 
          OKAY. 
          THE VARIANCE I GUESS WITH THE AMENDED. 
          SO, SO I GUESS THAT, THAT'S A GOOD SEGUE WHERE, YOU KNOW, I'LL, I'LL PLAY THE NEW CARD. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE'RE AMENDING THE SECRET DETERMINATION. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          UM, BECAUSE INITIALLY WE THOUGHT WHITE PLAINS WOULD BE OPEN, WE THOUGHT WE HAD AN EXTRA SAFETY VALUE. 
          YEAH. 
          WE, WE, WE THOUGHT THAT, THAT THEY WOULD BE OPEN TO SOMETHING THEY'RE NOT. 
          I GUESS DID THAT COME TO A SURPRISE TO US OR, UM, WE, I'M GONNA LET THE APPLICANT 'CAUSE THE APPLICANT WAS THE ONE THAT MET WITH THE CITY. 
          SURE. 
          AND, AND SO I THINK IT'S YES. 
          SURPRISE. 
          YES. 
          UH, INITIAL MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF WAS THAT WE DON'T CARE WHO PARKS THERE. 
          THAT'S BETWEEN THE LANDOWNER AND THE TENANT. 
          CHICK-FIL-A 
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HAS A, A LONG LEASE NOW ON THIS PROPERTY, WE WOULD BE THE EXCLUSIVE TENANT. 
          UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS DID START TO COME IN. 
          SAME EXACT PUBLIC COMMENTS. 
          THIS BOARD HEARD, HEARD WHEN WE HAD OUR SECRET INFORMATIONAL SESSION, UH, QUESTIONING THE USE IS THIS IS HAVING GUESTS THERE AN EXTENSION OF THE USE. 
          WE HAD SEVERAL CONFERENCE CALLS WITH THE CITY. 
          UM, THE CITY TO BE OVERLY CAUTIOUS, UM, CANDIDLY ASKED US, IS THIS GONNA BE FILLED WITH EMPLOYEES? WE SAID YES, UH, TO BE SAFE. 
          UM, AND TO ADDRESS SOME OF THAT MAIN PUBLIC CONCERN WAS, OKAY, WE FIND THAT GUESTS ARE AN EXTENSION OF THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT. 
          UM, THEN THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA PERMIT THEM. 
          THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT SETTING THAT PRECEDENT. 
          YOU KNOW, CANDIDLY, I MADE THE ARGUMENT TO THE CITY THAT THAT WOULD MEAN THAT EVERY COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT IN THE CITY, YOU CAN ONLY PARK THERE IF YOU'RE WALKING TO A SHOP, THAT'S A PERMITTED USE IN THE, THE ZONING DISTRICT WHERE YOU'RE PARKING. 
          AND SO IT'S A, IT'S AN ODDITY IN THEIR ZONING CODE THAT WE HAD TO DEAL WITH. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S HOW THE CHIPS FELL. 
          OKAY. 
          SO BEFORE WE TRANSITION, AND I'LL GO THROUGH THE VARIANCES. 
          I DID HAVE ONE QUESTION WE STUDIED OR ASKED YOU TO STUDY YONKERS, UH, NOTE YOUR OBSERVATIONS, RIGHT? YES. 
          FROM GRAND OPENING AND BEYOND. 
          UM, THERE IS ONE KEY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE YONKERS SITE AND THIS PROPOSED SITE, WHICH IS THE COUNTY CENTER AND ITS RELATED EVENTS. 
          YES. 
          QUESTION FOR THE TEAM. 
          UM, WE ALL ALSO KNOW BASED ON NUMBERS AND STUDIES THAT YOU'VE DONE AT THE VARIOUS SITES, THAT THE GRAND OPENING IS A KEY POINT WHERE MM-HMM. 
          , YOU KNOW, THERE'S CONCERN AND OBVIOUSLY NUMEROUS MEASURES TO BE PUT IN PLACE TO HANDLE THAT. 
          UH, WOULD THE, WOULD CONSIDERATION BE GIVEN TO NOT HAVING THE GRAND OPENING THAT ONE OR TWO WEEK PERIOD WHEN THERE'S A MAJOR EVENT SCHEDULED? BECAUSE WE KNOW THE SCHEDULES COME OUT AHEAD OF TIME AT THE COUNTY CENTER SO THEY DON'T OVERLAP WITH ONE ANOTHER AND POTENTIALLY TURN INTO A SITUATION THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE POLICE ARE HEAVILY INVOLVED. 
          SURE. 
          AND HAVING, UH, LIVED IN THIS AREA IN A PRIOR LIFE, THE HEAVY TIMES OF THE COUNTY CENTER IS THAT GRADUATION TIME. 
          GRADUATION'S THE WORST. 
          GRADUATION'S WORST. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO GRADUATION OF THIS YEAR, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? MAY TO JUNE, MAY, MAY, JUNE IN ALL LIKELIHOOD. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          AND SO, UM, WHAT IS CONSTRUCTION TIMING, MA'AM? USUALLY IT TAKES ABOUT SIX MONTHS TO CONSTRUCT THE FACILITY. 
          I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN, THERE'S, YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK IN MY HEAD. 
          THERE'S DEMO. 
          WE MIGHT MISS IT REGARDLESS. 
          YEAH. 
          TIM, WITH BOWLER ENGINEERING, I THINK WE CAN WORK WITH THE TOWN AND THE CITY POLICE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVENTS IN THE AREA ARE COORDINATED. 
          AND IF THAT MEANS LOOKING AT AN ALTERNATIVE GRAND OPENING DATE, THAT'LL BE OPEN FOR DISCUSSION. 
          WHAT'S VERY TRICKY THAT I'VE SEEN ON SOME OF THESE PROJECTS IS GETTING ALL THE PIECES TO FALL IN LINE TOGETHER IS VERY DIFFICULT. 
          GETTING A GRAND OPENING TEAM THAT CAN COMMIT TO MOVING TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR FOUR WEEKS. 
          'CAUSE THEY FLY IN 20, 30 DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS. 
          MM-HMM. 
           FOR THAT GRAND OPENING PERIOD, THEY HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HIRE, UM, POLICE ENFORCEMENT, MAKING SURE THEY'RE AVAILABLE. 
          CHANCES ARE THEY'RE PROBABLY NOT AVAILABLE IF THERE IS A COUNTY CENTER EVENT GOING ON. 
          UM, THE OPERATOR HIRING AND THEN THE BIGGEST PIECE IS A DOT WITH A TRAFFIC SIGNAL. 
          SO THERE IS A LOT TO COORDINATE FOR A GRAND OPENING AND A LOT THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER TO, I BELIEVE SET THAT DETERMINATION AT THIS TIME. 
          NOT AT THIS TIME, BUT ONCE THE PIECES ARE THERE, YOU SAY, WE'RE GONNA GO JULY 2ND. 
          OH GEE, BILLY JOEL HAS A TWO WEEK RESIDENCY AND HE'S GIVING THE TICKETS AWAY. 
          MAYBE YOU WANNA HOLD OFF TWO WEEKS EE EXACTLY. 
          AND I, AND I THINK THAT CONVERSATION CAN BE HELD. 
          SO IF MAYBE THAT LANGUAGE COULD BE TWEAKED AS A, AS A RECOMMENDATION FOR THAT DISCUSSION OF THE 30 DAY PRIOR TO GRAND OPENING, THAT THAT BE CONSIDERED. 
          OKAY. 
          I THINK THAT WOULD BE FAIR TO ALLOW, I THINK IT'S IN YOUR, THE OPERATOR AND EVERYBODY ELSE TO GET THOSE PIECES OF THE PUZZLE PUT TOGETHER. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S, THERE'S SO MANY BEYOND WHAT WE CAN AGREE ON THAT GOES INTO THESE GRAND OPENINGS. 
          IF, IF THAT HELPS. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          JUST, JUST ONE, WHICH IS THE, CONSIDERING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MIDWAY AND YONKERS, UH, WHICH ARE THE OTHER CLOSEST CHICK-FIL-A EITHER IN WIND PLAINS OR IN THE ON A GREENWOOD. 
          WE GOT ONE ON THE THROUGHWAY. 
          ONE'S. 
          THE THROUGHWAY YOU HAVE ON, ON THE 
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THROUGHWAY AND THEN YOU'RE IN CONNECTICUT. 
          THERE'S ONE THAT'S OPENING IN ROCKLAND COUNTY. 
          UH, THAT'LL PROBABLY BE EARLY SPRING. 
          SO, BUT NOTHING EVEN BY FACE. 
          NOT NOTHING CURRENT. 
          NOT CURRENTLY. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE MAY BE, BUT THERE WITHOUT A DRIVE THROUGH, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SATURATE UNTIL YOU KNOW WHAT THE DEMAND IS. 
          SO THIS IS, THIS IS GOING, WE HAD A LOT OF PRESSURE BECAUSE IT'S A HUGE POPULATION. 
          UH YES. 
          DRAW FROM BY PLAINS DOWNTOWN AND THEN SOME FROM, UH, THERE'S MORE PLANT IN THE AREA. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO OKAY. 
          VARIANCES. 
          YES. 
          AND WHAT OUR ACTION NEEDS TO BE TONIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          SO TWO THINGS, RIGHT. 
          UM, YEAH. 
          STAFF'S RECOMMENDING TWO, TWO ACTIONS, UH, BE CONSIDERED. 
          SO LET ME GO THROUGH THE VARIANCES FIRST. 
          THAT WAS A QUESTION. 
          UM, I'LL READ THROUGH THEM. 
          THERE WAS A VARIANCE DETERMINATION MEMO ISSUED BY THE TOWNS BUILDING INSPECTOR, UM, WHICH IDENTIFIED THE FOLLOWING. 
          SORRY, I'M GONNA INTERRUPT YOU ONE SECOND. 
          FOR DYLAN'S BENEFIT, A NUMBER OF THESE ARE SIMILAR OR BETTER THAN WHAT EXISTS NOW. 
          OKAY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE PLANNING BOARD, SOME OF 'EM SOUND VERY SIGNIFICANT. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE PLANNING BOARD IN ITS INITIAL NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATION IDENTIFIED THOSE SPECIFIC VARIANCES WHERE IT WAS EITHER EQUAL TO OR AN IMPROVEMENT UPON WHAT EXISTS OUT THERE TODAY. 
          UM, SO I'LL GO THROUGH THEM. 
          ONE SIDE YARD SETBACK TO DETACHED CANOPY FROM 40 FEET REQUIRED TO 6.8 FEET. 
          PROPOSED TWO TERRYTOWN ROAD SIDE YARD SETBACK TO PRINCIPAL BUILDING FROM 40 FEET REQUIRED TO 36.8 FEET. 
          PROPOSED THREE COUNTY CENTER ROAD SIDE YARD SETBACK TO PRINCIPAL BUILDING FROM 40 FEET REQUIRED TO 5.4 FEET. 
          PROPOSED FOUR TOTAL OF TWO SIDE YARDS FROM 80 FEET REQUIRED TO 42.4, 42.2, PARDON ME. 
          FEET PROPOSED FIVE DISTANCE FROM OFF STREET PARKING TO PRINCIPAL BUILDING FROM 10 FEET REQUIRED TO 7.7 FEET, ZERO FEET FOR THE PARKING LOT AND DRIVE THROUGH. 
          PROPOSED SIX OFF STREET PARKING SPACES FROM 143 REQUIRED TO 112. 
          PROPOSED SEVEN DISTANCE FROM OFF STREET PARKING TO FRONT LOT LINE FROM 20 FEET REQUIRED TO 3.4 FEET. 
          PROPOSED EIGHT DISTANCE FROM OFF STREET PARKING TO SIDE LOT LINE AT COUNTY CENTER ROAD FROM 10 FEET REQUIRED TO 2.4 FEET. 
          PROPOSED NINE DISTANCE FROM ALL STREET PARKING TO SIDE LOT LINE AT TERRYTOWN ROAD FROM 10 FEET REQUIRED TO 2.2 FEET. 
          PROPOSED 10 HEIGHT OF EXTERIOR LIGHTING FROM 14 FEET PERMITTED TO 17 FEET. 
          PROPOSED 11 OLD KENSICO ROAD FRONT YARD SETBACK TO ACCESSORY STORAGE BUILDING. 
          IN THIS CASE, THE STORAGE SHED FROM 30 FEET REQUIRED TO 21.8 FEET PROPOSED AND 12 COUNTY CENTER ROADS, SIDE YARD SETBACK TO ACCESSORY STORAGE BUILDING. 
          IN THIS CASE, THE STORAGE SHED FROM 40 FEET REQUIRED TO 19.5 FEET PROPOSED. 
          AND THERE WAS, I'LL, I'LL JUST SAY THERE WAS ONE MORE THAT WAS ADDED DURING THE ZBA PROCESS. 
          YOU CAN SEE WE HAVE A, AN ISLAND LOT HERE. 
          SO THAT STORAGE SHED IN THE NORTHWEST, NO CORNER, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S REFERRED TO AS A FRONT YARD. 
          UH, EVEN THOUGH TO ME IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE REAR YARD. 
          RIGHT. 
          UM, SO WE ARE PROPOSING AN INSIDER REAR YARD, SO WE NEED AN AREA VARIANCE FOR THAT. 
          SO THAT WAS ADDED, THAT WAS ADDED. 
          UH, THE DETERMINATION I HAVE HERE IS THE MOST RECENT ONE FROM APRIL OF THIS YEAR. 
          SO, SO SHE, AND THAT WAS AFTER, SHOULD WE ADD THAT TO THE SEEKER YES. 
          DETERMINATION OFFICER. 
          SO THAT WOULD BE, THAT CAN BE UPDATED. 
          OTHER THAN THAT, THESE ARE THE SAME AS WHAT WE HAD, UM, MADE OUR RECOMMENDATION ON BEFORE. 
          YES. 
          YES. 
          AND, AND SO JUST SO I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, THE, THE ONE 12 PARKING PROPOSED THAT INCLUDES THE WHITE PLAINS PARKING, THE, THE WHITE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS PARKING AND ALSO INCLUDES WHAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED UP BASED ON THE QUEUING PLANS. 
          IS THAT YES, YES. 
          THAT, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          SO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS MADE A COUPLE DETERMINATIONS NOW. 
          UM, ONE IS THAT FOR LOT AREA TO MEET THE LOT AREA REQUIREMENTS, WE CAN INCLUDE THE WHITE PLAINS PARCEL TWO FOR THE REAR YARD SETBACK. 
          SO 
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IT'D BE THE BACK OF THE BUILDING TO THAT, ESSENTIALLY THAT MUNICIPAL BOUNDARY LINE, THE REAR YARD SETBACK IS ACTUALLY FROM THE BUILDING TO THAT CORNER, THAT SOUTHERN CORNER. 
          UM, AND THAT WE CAN UTILIZE THE EMPLOYEE PARKING IN OUR PARKING COUNT. 
          SO THE TOWN BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS ESSENTIALLY SAYING FOR AREA AND BULK REGULATIONS, WE CAN INCLUDE THE WHITE PLAINS LOT. 
          BUT LET ME, LET ME CLARIFY ONE THING. 
          CORRECT. 
          I I WANTED THAT CLARIFIED. 
          YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. 
          IF YOU COULD OH, SURE. 
          SO THE, THE, THE STACKING, I THINK IT'S 33 VEHICLES CORRECT. 
          IN THE DRIVE THROUGH, THAT'S ALL THAT'S BEING COUNTED TOWARDS OUR PARKING ONLY IN THE DRIVE THROUGH. 
          SO ONCE YOU GET TO NOT THROUGH THE PARKING LOT WITH ALL OF THE CARS, THE RED CARS. 
          GOT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND IT MAYBE IF SOMEONE COULD RUN THE CURSOR OVER WHERE IT'S RIGHT WHERE THE PEDESTRIAN CROSSWALK IS, WHEN YOU BASICALLY GET TO THE PARKING LOT, THAT'S THE END OF THE QUEUE AS FAR AS WHAT WAS COUNTED. 
          AND THEN THE SPACES THAT ARE STRIPED WERE COUNTED AS PART OF THE OVERALL OFF STREET PARKING REQUIREMENT. 
          BUT COULD, BUT COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED BASED ON THE ING GLAND OR IT COULD BE MODIFIED. 
          YES. 
          YEAH, TIM WOULD BULLER, SO I BELIEVE THERE'S 49 PARKING SPOTS OUT IN FRONT OF THE CHICK-FIL-A UTILIZED FOR GUESTS 33 STACKING SPACES WITHIN THE DRIVE THROUGH. 
          MM-HMM. 
           AND THEN 30 PARKING SPACES IN THE CITY OF WHITE PLAINS FARM EMPLOYEE TO COME UP TO THAT 112 TOTAL. 
          AND, AND THERE'S ONLY TWO HANDICAP SPOTS REQUIRED. 
          SO THEY HAVE TO BE TREATED AS, UM, SEPARATE PARKING LOTS FOR A DA ACCESSIBILITY. 
          SO THERE'S TWO REQUIRED IN THE WHITE PLAINS LOT AND TWO REQUIRED IN THE CHICK-FIL-A LOT. 
          THEY BOTH FALL WITHIN THE 25 TO 50 PARKING SPACE THRESHOLD. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND I'LL JUST ADD, I KNOW SOME OF THOSE SETBACKS SOUND PRETTY TOUGH. 
          UM, I'LL NOTE THAT THE BUILDING NOW IS ZERO FEET FROM COUNTY CENTER ROAD. 
          IT'S RIGHT ON THE COUNTY CENTER ROAD LINE. 
          AND YOU'LL ALSO SEE FROM TERRYTOWN ROAD, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT DOT AREA THERE. 
          SO I THINK THERE'S LIKE ANOTHER 15 FEET ISH, IF NOT MORE OF DOT LAND THERE BEFORE YOU GET TO EDGE OF PAVEMENT, WHICH WE'LL HAVE THAT NEW LANDSCAPING IN. 
          SO I THINK IT WOULD BE, UM, HELPFUL FOR THE ZONING BOARD. 
          TWO THINGS, TWO ACTION ITEMS. ONE, AND FOR THE APPLICANT'S BENEFIT FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO CONSIDER AMENDING THE SECRET DETERMINATION, BUT ALSO TO CONSIDER REAFFIRMING ITS PRIOR POSITION ON THE VARIANCE, UH, ON THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD ON THE VARIANCES. 
          AND THEN MAYBE EVEN INCLUDING, UH, RECOMMENDATION ON THE, THE NEWLY ADDED VARIANCE THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY BEFORE THIS BOARD. 
          UM, SO STAFF DID PREPARE, UH, SOME DRAFTS, MODIFICATIONS. 
          IT WAS NOT JUST SIMPLY ONE LINE , ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WAS THE MAIN, UH, DRIVER. 
          UH, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM BOARD MEMBERS IN RELATION TO THE MODIFIED LANGUAGE. 
          WE CAN GO THROUGH IT. 
          UM, I THINK IF YOU COULD JUST SAY WHAT EACH SECTION IS REFERRING TO. 
          MAYBE NOT READ THE WHOLE THING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IN A COUPLE OF AREAS, WE IDENTIFIED THAT THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS MOST RECENTLY UPDATED OCTOBER 9TH, 2024. 
          UH, WE'VE ADDED TONIGHT'S WORK SESSION DATE TO THE DOCUMENT. 
          UM, WE DID IN THE REASON SUPPORTING THIS DETERMINATION ON PAGE TWO, UH, WE DID ADD, LET'S SEE, CONDITIONS OF THE IDENTIFYING THAT THE APPLICANT, YOU KNOW, IN COORDINATION WITH TOWN STAFF, THE PLANNING BOARD, AND THE TOWN'S CONSULTANT REVISED ITS PLANS. 
          AND WE ADDED, UM, I'M SORRY. 
          OKAY, LET ME BACK UP FOR A SECOND. 
          , THERE'S A LOT IN THIS PARAGRAPH. 
          UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE MONITORING STUDY TO BE CARRIED OUT WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF OPENING OF THE FACILITY, IF THE PROJECT'S APPROVED OR SOONER, IF DEEMED NECESSARY BY GREENBURG CHIEF OF POLICE FOR SAFETY REASONS, UM, THAT MONITORING STUDY WOULD REPORT ON THE FOLLOWING. 
          AND WE HAD, UM, FOUR ITEMS. WE'VE ADDED NUMBER FIVE, WHICH STATES OBSERVATIONS OF CONDITIONS AT THE SITE RESULTING FROM ONE OR MORE EVENTS AT THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY CENTER THAT ARE EXPECTED TO INCREASE ACTIVITY AT THE CHICK-FIL-A SITE WHETHER THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WAS IMPLEMENTED DURING SET OBSERVATIONS, AND IF SO, WHETHER IT WAS EFFECTIVE. 
          AND THAT WAS, UH, AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF JOHN CANNING. 
          SO WE ADDED THAT IN. 
          IF WE GO TO PAGE FOUR, 
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WE SIMILARLY, UH, NOTED THAT THE DOCUMENT WAS MOST RECENTLY UPDATED OCTOBER 9TH AND ADDED NUMBER FIVE. 
          UH, IF WE GO TO PAGE FIVE, WE CLARIFIED OR UPDATED REALLY, THAT THE APPLICANT REVISED ITS PLANS TO MORE EASILY ALLOW FOR AN EXPANDED QUEUING AISLE, GAINING AN ADDITIONAL 20 TO 32 VEHICLES, WHERE PREVIOUSLY STATED 14 TO 18. 
          SO THAT WAS UPDATED BASED ON THE MOST RECENT PLAN. 
          UM, AND FOLLOWING SENTENCE, THE APPLICANT'S TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN CONTAINS DETAILS ON EMPLOYEE LOCATIONS AND MANAGEMENT OF THE QUEUE. 
          SO THIS IS WHERE IT HAD PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED THE ADDITIONAL OVERFLOW MM-HMM. 
           INTO THE CITY WHITE PLAINS LOT. 
          UM, CLOSING THE OLD ROAD ENTRANCE EXIT IF NEEDED AND PERMITTED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, IN PARENTHESES DIRECTING VEHICLES TO UTILIZE THE COUNTY CENTER ROAD ENTRANCE AND EXIT ONLY AS WAS DISCUSSED EARLIER. 
          AND IF NECESSARY, CLOSING THE COUNTY CENTER ROAD ENTRANCE AND DIRECTING VEHICLES TO LEAVE THE AREA AND RETURN AT A DIFFERENT TIME ONCE DEMAND LESSENS. 
          SO THAT'S IN PLACE OF THE UTILIZING THE EMPLOYEE PARKING LOT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, LET'S SEE. 
          WE DID ADD HERE IN RELATION TO THE OTHER, UH, SITES THAT WERE, UH, STUDIED, THE EIGHT COMPARABLY DESIGN SITES, WE ADDED THAT. 
          ADDITIONALLY, THE APPLICANT SUPPLIED INFORMATION REGARDING THE GRAND OPENING AND SUBSEQUENT PERIODS FOR THE YONKERS CHICK-FIL-A LOCATED AT THE CORNER OF ROXBURY DRIVE AND CENTRAL PARK AVENUE, WHICH OPENED IN LATE JULY, 2024. 
          OBSERVATIONS CONDUCTED BY COLLIER'S ENGINEERING IDENTIFIED A MAXIMUM TOTAL OF 46 TO 52 VEHICLES QUEUED FOR THE DRIVE THROUGH AT THAT FACILITY. 
          THE REVISED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR THE SUBJECT SITE PROVIDES FOR QUEUING OF 53 TO 65 VEHICLES EXCEEDING THE AMOUNT OBSERVED AT THE YONKERS LOCATION. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ADDED WITH RESPECT TO, UM, UPGRADES ALONG TARRYTOWN ROAD, OLD KENGO ROAD, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS THAT YOU WENT THROUGH BEFORE, UM, WE ADDED, UH, REQUESTING AN INCREASE IN THE GREEN TIME ASSIGNED TO OLD KENSICO ROAD FROM THE NEW YORK STATE ROUTE ONE 19 TERRYTOWN ROAD SIGNAL OWNER SLASH CITY OF WHITE PLAINS. 
          AND THAT WAS AT MR. CANNINGS RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND THE ONLY OTHER THING WAS JUST UPDATING THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES. 
          YEAH. 
          WE UPDATED IN ONE OTHER LOCATION, THE, THE 14 TO 18 VEHICLES TO 20 TO 32 VEHICLES. 
          ANYONE? YES. 
          NO. 
          YEAH. 
          SO, SO IN TERMS OF THE MONITORING STUDY, WHAT WOULD OUR RECOURSE BE IF THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN WASN'T IMPLEMENTED OR IF IT WASN'T EFFECTIVE? LIKE WHAT, WHAT HAPPENS ONCE WE DETERMINE THAT, IF ANYTHING? SO THAT, THAT WAS ACTUALLY DISCUSSED, UM, AND NOT, I, I DON'T WANT TO INTERJECT, BUT THAT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, YOU KNOW, A, A COUPLE MONTHS, YEARS AGO MAYBE. 
          UM,  ONE IS, UM, THERE WAS A FACILITY IN NORWALK, CONNECTICUT THAT WE STUDIED PRETTY EXTENSIVELY FOR THIS BOARD, UH, THAT ORIGINAL DO, UH, DESIGN FAILED. 
          UM, THEY COMPLETELY RECONSTRUCTED THE DESIGN, UM, BASED ON WHAT THEY LEARNED FROM THAT. 
          SO THAT DEMONSTRATES A COMMITMENT FROM CHICK-FIL-A, THAT THEY'RE GONNA TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED WAS SEE WHERE THOSE ANGLED PARKING SPACES ARE ON THE LEFT, GETTING RID OF THE PARKING, UH, AND MAKING THAT EXTENDED QUEUE. 
          UM, SO THAT THERE IS MORE OF A, A DESIGNATED DRIVE THROUGH RATHER THAN PARKING SPACES. 
          OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD RESULT IN THE LOSS OF PARKING SPACES, BUT PART OF THE STUDY WOULD, YOU KNOW, INCLUDE HOW MANY SPACES ARE BEING UTILIZED. 
          UM, DO WE NEED THOSE SPACES? WOULD THEY BE AT BETTER OFF AS A DRIVE THROUGH QUEUE? UM, WE DIDN'T WANT TO COMMIT TO THAT NOW BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, THE DESIGN WITH THE DATA WE HAVE WORKS, BUT THAT IS ONE ALTERNATIVE THAT WAS DISCUSSED LAST TIME WE WERE BEFORE THIS BOARD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO AARON, MY QUESTION IS THAT, WOULD THAT BE PART OF LIKE, UH, CONDITIONS OR DOCUMENTS? BECAUSE THESE ARE BASICALLY WHAT TRIGGERS WHAT. 
          SURE. 
          SO, AND, AND SO BASICALLY TRIGGER POINTS, UH, WHAT I'LL SAY IS THE SECRET NEGATIVE DECLARATION DOESN'T HAVE HAVE TO HAVE EVERYTHING IN IT BY WAY OF CONDITIONS. 
          AFTER WE'RE DONE WITH THE ZBA, WE'RE COMING BACK HERE FOR FINAL SITE PLAN REVIEW, FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING, AND THAT'S WHEN WE'RE REALLY GONNA GET INTO THE NITTY GRITTY OF THE CONDITIONS WHEN WE COME BACK FOR THE MONITORING PLAN, TO REVIEW WHAT WE FOUND AND A HOST OF OTHER TYPICAL CONDITIONS THAT THIS BOARD IS USED TO SEEING. 
          AND WE AGREE 
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WITH THAT. 
          YES. 
          SO, AND AMANDA, YOU ARE, YES, I AGREE WITH THAT. 
          YOU'RE NOT GETTING RID OF US THAT EASY. 
          WE'RE COMING BACK. 
          NO, WE, WE WANT YOU TO DO THE, I MEAN, SO WE NEED IT'S EMPTY SITE FOR A LONG TIME. 
          IT IS, IT IS. 
          SO I THINK, UM, WE SHOULD CONSIDER THE, OKAY. 
          THE DECLAR AND THEN THE, UH, UN UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS, UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AMENDED NEGATIVE DECLARATION. 
          SO MOVED. 
          THANK YOU, MICHAEL. 
          SECOND. 
          MY GOSH. 
          ALL IN FAVOR. 
          AYE. 
          AND THAT'S, UH, TO INCLUDE THE ONE LAST EDITION RELATED TO THE ADDITIONAL VARIANCE, THE 13TH ON TOP OF WHAT YOU, YOU'VE ALREADY MENTIONED. 
          YES. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THE LAST IS TO REISSUE A RECOMMENDATION OR HOW DO WE WORD THIS? I THINK, UM, TO THE Z IT CAN BE AS SIMPLE AS REAFFIRMING THE PREVIOUSLY ISSUED NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATION, UM, ON THE 12 VARIANCES, AND THEN MAKING DETERMINATION ON THE LAST ONE, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          I WOULD PHRASE THIS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. 
          I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THE AMENDED NEGATIVE DECLARATION DOES NOT AFFECT OUR PREVIOUSLY ISSUED, YOU KNOW, NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATION. 
          AND THEN WE REAFFIRMED, I MEAN, JUST CONNECT IT TO THE NEC. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          SOUNDS LIKE A MOTION TO ME. 
          AND SAY IT AGAIN. 
          WHAT'S A MOTION? EXACTLY. 
          AND, AND, UH, AND WE'RE NEUTRAL ON THE 13TH, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          I THINK UNLESS ANYONE, SO YOU GET COMBINED FEELS DIFFERENTLY. 
          SO MICHAEL, YOU, YOU STATED THAT THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION AS AMENDED DOES NOT AFFECT THE NEUTRAL RECOMMENDATION ON THE PREVIOUS 12 VARIANCES AND THAT YOU'RE REAFFIRMING THE 12 VARIANCES AND THAT WE ALSO ARE NEUTRAL ON THE 13TH. 
          YEAH, WE COULD JUST THE ABUT YEAH, THAT WE CAN CAPTURE IT ALL IN ONE. 
          OKAY. 
          MOTION. 
          SECOND. 
          SECOND. 
          ETTE. 
          ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AYE. 
          VERY GOOD. 
          GREAT. 
          THANK YOU EVERYONE. 
          THERE'S A LOT OF TALK TO GET THERE, BUT THERE WE ARE. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW WHAT, AND IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT PROJECT BECAUSE OF IT. 
          SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU'RE WELCOME. 
          HAVE A GOOD EVENING. 
          LET'S SEE YOU WHEN YOU COME BACK. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          SEE IF MY DEPARTMENT STILL AVAILABLE SO CLOSE AT NINE 11. 
          WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY FORMAL MOTION OR DO WE? NO, WE DONE. 
          GOODNIGHT EVERYONE WHO IS WATCHING IF YOU WERE, THANKS EVERYONE. 
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