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UH, WELCOME TARA TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.TODAY IS OCTOBER 22ND, AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE STARTING, UM, WITH, UM, BUDGET, UM, PRESENTATIONS.
UM, I HAVE TO RELEASE THE BUDGET ON OCTOBER 30TH.
UM, AND, UM, THE PRESENTATIONS TODAY WILL BE, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER, PARKS, UH, PLANNING AND THE CAPITAL BUDGET, UH, DISCUSSIONS.
AND, UM, KIMBERLY'S ON ALSO, RIGHT? THE CONTROLLER.
SO, UM, TERRANCE AND DAVID, YOU WANNA COME UP? YES, SIR.
HELLO, HOW ARE YOU? I DON'T SIT WHERE'S, I DON'T SEE YOUR BUDGET.
THAT COULD BE A GOOD THING OR A BAD THING.
IT'S TOWARDS THE BACK OF OUR PACKET.
I, MINE WAS THE SECOND TO LAST ONE.
YOU HAVE MORE THAN THAT, OR YOU HAVE, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT YOU HAVE.
CAN YOU LOOK FURTHER TO SEE IF YOU HAVE 73, 20? IT WAS, UH, EARLIER FOR US, MIXED IN POOLS, A POOL, SO IT WENT TO, UH,
IT USUALLY SAYS FAIRVIEW GREENBURG POOL.
SO IF YOU LOOK IN THE ORGANIZATION, UH, B 73 20 IS THE POOLSIDE.
UH, SO THE, THE FIRST QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, THE OVERTIME, UH, WENT FROM 15,000 TO 25,000.
THAT ACTUALLY IS NOT AN ADDITION THOUGH.
UM, WE USED TO HAVE A POSITION OF ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER, AND WHEN WE REALLOCATED THAT TITLE, IT WENT TO RECREATION SUPERVISOR AND THERE WAS A, AN ADDITIONAL $10,000, UM, ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
SO WE JUST REALLOCATED THE FUNDS.
WE SPOKE WITH, UM, KIMBERLY AND JONATHAN.
UM, AND THAT'S WHY THAT SWITCH HAPPENS.
SO THERE'S, IT IS, IT'S, NO, IT WASN'T AN ADDITION.
I WONDER IF THE B KIMBERLY, WOULD THE BUDGET BE ABLE TO REFLECT THAT? SO IT DOESN'T, THE DETAIL, UM, THERE A SECTION BEHIND THE LINE ITEMS THAT HAS THE DETAIL AND IT WOULD REFLECT IN THERE.
RIGHT? I CAN SEE IT, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT GENERALLY PRINTED OUT THAT WAY, BUT IT'S VISIBLE TO THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.
I'M JUST SORT OF WONDERING IF, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDING IT, IF THERE, IF, IF THERE'S A WAY OF HAVING LIKE A SEPARATE LINE, UM, AND THIS WAY, UM, YOU, YOU KNOW, THIS WAY IT LOOKS LIKE IF IT'S 15,000, 15,000, BECAUSE I'D RATHER NOT SHOW, YOU KNOW, JUMPS IF WE DON'T HAVE TO.
UM, SO WE CAN PUT A FOOTNOTE IF SOMEONE WANTS TO REMIND ME TO PUT A FOOTNOTE THERE ON THE BUDGET, WE CAN DO THAT.
ONE, ONE THING I'LL BRING UP IS JUST THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR COSTS KEEP GOING UP LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT, UM, AS OF TODAY, UM, WE'RE AT 18,942 IN THAT LINE.
UM, IT'S JUST A NECESSITY AT THIS POINT THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOME OVERTIME WITH CERTAIN PEOPLE, UM, TO GET DONE WHAT WE NEED TO GET DONE.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD'VE PUT IT IN OURSELF, BUT DAVE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.
UM, SO BEING AT THE END OF OCTOBER, AND WE'VE GOT TWO IMPORTANT MONTHS LEFT, UM, IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS TRULY NEEDED.
AND, UH, THE PART-TIME ONE FROM 3 72 TO 3 92, IS THAT INCREASES IN SALARIES? YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A TOUGH CONVERSATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT WE NEED IS A LOT MORE THAN THAT.
UM, BUT WE WANTED TO COME IN AND, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY HAVE A CONVERSATION FIRST, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE IDEA OF JUST MINIMUM WAGE, UM, THAT'S A DOLLAR, RIGHT? AND ON AVERAGE, WE HAVE ABOUT 110 COUNSELORS.
SO FOR ONE DAY, IF THAT MINIMUM WAGE GOES UP, IT COSTS US $880.
AND WE TYPICALLY HAVE 29 DAYS OF CAMP, RIGHT? SO EIGHT 80 TIMES THAT 29, IT'S ALREADY $25,000, UM, IN A PART-TIME LINE.
SO THERE'S REALLY NO, NO INCREASE.
UM, WE'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB, YOU KNOW, OUR DEPARTMENT, UM, AND OUR TEAM BRINGING IN A LITTLE BIT MORE REVENUE.
AND WE WANTED TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION OF, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE TO JUSTIFY
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BRINGING IN MORE, UH, REVENUE TO THE TOWN, TO THEN POTENTIALLY PUTTING IT, UH, INTO OUR PART-TIME LINES.UM, AND THIS GOES INTO A FURTHER CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD.
UM, THE FIRST TIME WAS, I BELIEVE, TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO, WE SAT WITH YOU ALL TO SHOW HOW MUCH MORE WE'RE SPENDING IN OUR PART-TIME AND PART-TIME SEASONAL LINE VERSUS OUR BUDGET.
BUT BECAUSE OF, UM, OPEN POSITIONS WHICH WE NEEDED TO FILL, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO KEEP THAT WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU BACK A BUDGET THAT'S BEEN BLOWN.
WE'RE ABLE TO WORK WITHIN OUR BUDGET, BUT WE SAID AT THAT TIME THAT DEFINITELY WE'RE GOING TO NEED SOMETHING GOING FORWARD.
SO FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS, UM, WE HAVE GOTTEN ABOUT 20,000 IN OUR PART-TIME AND OUR PART-TIME SEASONAL.
AND THAT HAS COME ACROSS AGAIN, BUT IT IS NOT EVERYTHING THAT IS NEEDED TO DO WHAT WE DO.
AND I CAN'T SAY THAT WE'RE DOING FROM A MONEY STANDPOINT A WHOLE LOT MORE, BUT THE EXPENSES ARE GETTING INCREDIBLY MORE TO DO THEM.
WELL, I, UM, IF, IF YOU WOULD, BECAUSE THIS IS PRELIMINARY SURE.
IF YOU WOULD GIVE US SOME BACKUP TO THAT, AND, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN COME IN AND, AND GO THROUGH THAT MORE CAREFULLY AS TO ON WHAT THE EXPENSES, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE MONIES AND POSITIONS ARE.
UM, BUT IT, IT PRETTY MUCH GOES RIGHT TO, IN THIS LINE, UH, EXACTLY WHAT DAVID WAS TALKING ABOUT.
UM, THE AMOUNT OF STAFF THAT WE NEED.
OUR, OUR, UH, DAY CAMP CAME IN AT LIKE 3 82 IN, IN NUMBERS.
UM, AND THEN THE STAFF TO FULFILL THOSE STUDENTS THAT WERE WITH US.
UM, AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES, GOES ALONG WITH IT, BUT THE ADDED AMOUNT WITH THE, UM, MINIMUM WAGE.
SO THAT WAS A BIG NUMBER RIGHT THERE.
UM, BUT IT, IT, IT'S JUST TAKING THAT MUCH MORE AND THE ADDED BENEFIT OF, UH, WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE KIDS JOBS DURING THE SUMMER.
I JUST WANNA SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL ON IT.
SO ACTUALLY, I HAVE A SUGGESTION, AND THIS IS NOT JUST FOR YOUR BUDGET, BUT KIMBERLY, MAYBE FOR ALL THE BUDGETS.
SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE BUDGETS, WHENEVER WE SEE AN INCREASE THAT'S OF A CERTAIN MATERIAL YES.
THAT WE HAVE A DROPDOWN THAT SHOWS THAT DETAIL SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO THEN COME BACK AND ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.
OR IS THAT POSSIBLE? NOT FOR EVERYTHING.
OBVIOUSLY THE SYSTEM'S NOT GONNA PRINT THAT, BUT WE CAN, WE DO INPUT MANUALLY PUT COMMENTS IN.
SO ON OUR END, LIKE WHEN KIMBERLY HAD US ACTUALLY INPUT THE, THE BUDGETS THERE IS A DROPDOWN, BUT FOR WHATEVER REASON IT JUST DOESN'T PRINT OUT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT FOR EACH ITEM.
'CAUSE WHEN THINGS ARE STATIC, THEN THEY'RE STATIC, THAT'S FINE.
BUT WHEN THEY'RE, THERE'S AN INCREASE THAT WE WANT THE PUBLIC TO SEE THAT WHAT WE WANNA KNOW ABOUT, WE, IF WE HAVE THAT DETAIL AS PART OF THE BUDGET PRESENTATION FOR ALL THE BUDGETS, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
BUT IF THE SYSTEM ISN'T SET UP, IT, IT CAN BE BACK UP DOCUMENTATION.
WHATEVER, LIKE FOR WHATEVER ITEM IS, RIGHT? YEAH.
CAN WE HAVE BACKUP FOR THAT? IT CAN JUST BE, YEAH.
SO TO YOUR POINT, I'VE KIND OF DONE IT WHAT I CALL THE JANKY WAY.
YOU DON'T REALLY EXPECT US TO READ THAT.
CAN YOU SEE THIS CAN ALL, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CAMERA ACTUALLY IS.
IT'S WHAT WE CAN PULL OUT OF EUNICE UNIS.
AND BASICALLY I PUT FROM 2017 TO 2004, 2020.
AND ON HERE, AND I'M NOT GONNA HAVE YOU LOOK AT IT AT THE MOMENT, BUT IT WILL SHOW YOU THAT IN OUR PART-TIME LINE, WE WERE LIKE 3 57
AND EACH YEAR, HOW IT'S GONE UP AND ALL.
SO THESE ARE THE THINGS WE CAN GIVE YOU TO DO THAT I'VE JUST GOTTA FIND A BETTER WAY TO DO IT THAN THIS.
THIS IS GONNA GO VIRAL
UM, BUT THAT, THAT IS ONE OF OUR, OUR, OUR BIGGEST POINTS, BUT NOT OUR ONLY POINTS.
AND WE JUST DO HAVE OTHER, UM, PIECES THAT ARE GOING UP.
UM, UH, UH, KIMBERLY, ONE THING TO LOOK AT, UH, POSSIBLY THAT WE DON'T MANAGE AS MUCH, BUT HEATING COSTS, UM, THAT HAS GONE UP EACH YEAR TO A BIG PRICE, BUT WE DIDN'T PUT IT UP AT ALL HERE.
UM, I KNOW JOE WILL TALK TO YOU ALL ABOUT TRANSPORTATION, BUT THAT'S A COST THAT ALWAYS GOES UP THAT'S NOT HERE.
AND I BELIEVE PART OF THAT IS CONTRACTUAL.
UM, WITH THE LAST COMPTROLLER, AND AGAIN, JOE'S BETTER TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THIS, THERE WAS SOMETHING MONEY SET ASIDE TO BRING THAT IN DEPENDING ON WHEN THE
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CONTRACT WAS SIGNED AND ALL OF THAT.SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PIECES THAT JUST KEEP GOING UP THAT WE CANNOT TOTALLY JUDGE ALL THE TIME.
BUT WE KNOW SLIGHT INCREMENTS DO ALWAYS HAVE TO COME IN.
BUT OUR BIG ONES REALLY ARE THE, THAT PART-TIME AND PART-TIME.
THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT JUMPS OUT.
NO, I MEAN, BUT LISTEN, WE ARE FEES.
YOU KNOW, THE REALITY IS WE'RE A SERVICE BASED ORGANIZATION, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND, UH, WE PROVIDE VERY HIGH LEVEL SERVICES TO, TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, BUT WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SOME TOUGH DECISIONS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANY WIGGLE ROOM.
UM, AND, AND IT'S HARD BECAUSE I BELIEVE SUFFER ARE ACTUALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS WHO ARE COMING IN AND GETTING JOBS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UH, AN ALARMING AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS, WHICH IS AMAZING.
BUT ALSO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN A TOUGH POSITION BECAUSE WITHOUT THE MONEY, LIKE NOTHING CAN REALLY MOVE.
UM, ABOUT A YEAR AGO OR A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, YOU DID LIKE A PROGRAM ANALYSIS, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY PROGRAMS WE HAVE.
HOW MANY PARTICIPANTS WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO LIKE, UPDATE THAT? UH, YOU KNOW, BY, BY PROGRAM? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, FREE BOTH
UH, WE, UM, WE'RE 97, 90 8% IN EVERY PROGRAM WE HAVE.
WE DO PUSH OUT PROGRAMS THAT AREN'T SHOWING UP.
BUT IT'S HARD TO, THE WAY FOR YOU TO TRULY UNDERSTAND IT, YOU'D KINDA HAVE TO, AND WE'RE THINKING ABOUT IT TO DO AS A, UH, YEAR END REVIEW.
UM, YOU HAVE TO KNOW THE, THE, UM, CLASS SIZE TO THEN KNOW THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE CLASS.
'CAUSE I JUST TO TELL YOU, FOR THIS CLASS SEWING, UH, 10 PEOPLE SAYS, OKAY, THAT'S NOT BAD.
BUT THE CLASS, THE SPACE WE'RE DOING, IT ONLY FITS 10 PEOPLE.
AND WE ONLY HAVE 10 SEWING, HAVE 10 SEWING, UH, MACHINES.
SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE PIECES THAT HAVE TO GO THROUGH IT.
I'M TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO SHOW IT TO YOU SO IT'S A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.
WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU COULD GET, GET US THAT? FEBRUARY OF NEXT YEAR.
I MEAN, IT'S A YEAR END YEAREND REVIEW.
THAT'S GONNA BE THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
'CAUSE IT HAS TO GO THROUGH PROGRAM.
240 PROGRAMS THROUGH EVERY PERSON THAT WE HAVE.
AND, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, OUR YEAR ON REVIEW IS A MUCH LENGTHIER THING.
WE'RE BRINGING IT DOWN TO MAKE IT MORE DATA DRIVEN.
WELL, WE TRUST YOU SINCE YOU'RE THE SPREADSHEET GURU.
AND YOU, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SAY, FOR THIS PROGRAM IT'S $8,000.
SO THIS WAY WE, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING, WE SAY IN WHAT IT'S EARNING OR, OR GAINING IN THE, IN THE
WELL, WE, WE KIND OF DO THAT ALREADY.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, UH, THE GOOD THING ABOUT OUR FEES, RIGHT? YOU HAVE LIKE A, A ONE-TIME SUPPLY FEE.
RIGHT? IF IT'S SEWING, YOU'RE GOING OUT, YOU'RE GETTING YOUR, YOUR SUPPLIES.
AND THEN REALLY IT'S JUST THE PART-TIME SALARY THAT'S, YOU KNOW, FOR EIGHT TO 16 CLASSES, DEPENDING ON THE STRUCTURE.
UM, AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NON-RESIDENT FEE AND THEN OUR RESIDENT FEE.
UH, SO WE BREAK THAT DOWN FOR YOU.
THAT BE, AND THEN THE ONLY OTHER THING TO PUT IN THERE IS ALSO THEN THE, UM, UH, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE THAT MIGHT COME CONNECTED TO IT.
THAT DOESN'T ALWAYS MAKE CERTAIN CLASSES EQUAL OUT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT PERCENT OF THE, UM, PARTICIPANTS ARE FROM UNINCORPORATED AND WHAT PERCENT MAYBE ARE THE VILLAGES AND WHAT PERCENT ARE FROM LIKE WHITE PLAINS OR YONKERS OR, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMUNITIES.
'CAUSE THEN, THEN IT GIVES US A BETTER SENSE WHERE WE ARE ON THE BUDGET.
UM, AND THE POOL, ANYBODY ELSE ON THE T-D-Y-C-C BEFORE WE GO INTO THE POOL? NO, NO, NO.
BUT I'D LOVE TO ENTERTAIN THAT POOL CONVERSATION.
UM, JUST BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, PAUL, YOU SPECIFICALLY KIND OF PUT US ON, ON SOME EMAILS WITH, UM, INDIVIDUALS WHO WANNA OPEN THE FACILITY, UH, A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
UM, AND JUST TO OPEN UP THE POOL, YOU MEAN IN A FINANCIAL HOLE? YEAH.
UM, JUST BECAUSE THE NEED VERSUS WHAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE, IT'S, IT'S HARD RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE'RE MAKING IT, WE'RE MAKING IT HAPPEN.
UM, AND A, A CERTAIN NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS, UM, APPROXIMATELY SIX TO EIGHT, UM, YOU KNOW, WANNA COME IN AND SWIM EARLIER, WHICH IS FINE IN THE MORNING.
WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT EARLIER, EARLIER THE POOL, EARLY THE SEASON, EARLIER IN THE 10 MORE OVER TIME.
RATHER, HE'S OPEN 298 DAYS A YEAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, TO OPEN THE POOL, YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE A LIFEGUARD POP THE DOOR OPEN.
LIKE WE HAVE STRICT POLICIES, PROCEDURES, WE HAVE EQUIPMENT IN THERE.
SO I NEED A RECEPTIONIST, I NEED MAINTENANCE TEAM IN THERE.
UH, SO THAT APPROXIMATE COST IS ABOUT $180 AN HOUR.
WHICH EQUATES TO ABOUT $54,000 JUST TO OPEN THE POOL.
WAIT, OVER WHAT PERIOD OF TIME? ANNUAL ONE HOUR EARLIER EVERY DAY.
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FOR THE YEAR.NOT FOR THE HOUR, RIGHT? OH, NO, NO, NO.
IT'S HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD ACCOMMODATE, UH, I MEAN, THERE'S ABOUT EIGHT THAT ARE REALLY WILLING.
BUT I'M SAYING THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE HARD TO, WELL, THAT'S WHERE YOU GUYS, IT'S NOT, IT'S COST PROHIBITIVE.
AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LOVE TO DO THAT PERSONALLY WORK OUT VERY EARLY IN THE MORNING.
AND I, I REALLY COMMEND, UM, YOU KNOW, OUR COMMUNITY FOR, FOR WANTING THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN BOARD HAS TO MAKE A DECISION, UM, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS FEASIBLE AT THIS TIME.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE FUNDS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE MONEY FOR THAT.
THEY USED TO WHAT TIME, WHAT TIME ARE, IS THE POOL OPEN? UH, 7:00 AM SEVEN.
7:00 AM THIS ONE HOUR, THE FIRST OPEN, UM, LANE.
SO THEY WANNA COME ONE HOUR EARLY.
BUT ALSO, LIKE, YOU CAN'T JUST POP THE DOOR AT SIX.
I NEED SOMEBODY THERE AT FIVE 30.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? NO, OF COURSE NOT.
BUT THE, LIKE, JCC AND THE Y, THEY DON'T OPEN AT FIVE.
UH, I MEAN, THEY MAY, BUT ALSO LIKE THE JCC, GREAT, GREAT PROGRAMS AND SERVICES.
BUT WE HAVE A VERY SIMILAR PROGRAM AND OUR FEE IS ABOUT $110 AND THERE'S $890.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT DEPENDS ON REALLY WHAT YOU'RE, WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT.
AND THE JC ISN'T A GOVERNMENT, RIGHT? CORRECT.
DEPENDING ON TAXPAYER'S MONIES.
WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THE POOL OUT AT, UH, ANTHONY, VETERAN PARK.
THE COLD LUNCH CLUB ON THE POOL SIDE.
UM, AGAIN, PART-TIME, THIS IS MORE, UH, OF A SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN WHAT LIFEGUARDS ARE GETTING PAID NOW.
UM, IT WAS DIFFICULT FOR US TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A GOOD GROUP, UH, DURING THE SUMMER.
TO FIND ALL OF THE PROPER LIFEGUARDS.
UM, BUT, UH, AT THIS TIME WITH THE LIFEGUARDS, WE HAVE THE AMOUNT THAT WE CAN PAY THEM.
WE HAVE TO KEEP THEM A LOT LONGER.
'CAUSE IT'S A, A SMALLER NUMBER.
SO AT THE MOMENT WE ARE, UM, UH, 1 6 5 1 67 0.36% OVER OUR BUDGET ON THAT LINE.
NOW, THERE WAS A VERY SMALL INCREASE LAST YEAR, AND THIS YEAR IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GETTING 25,000 TOWARDS IT, WHICH I BELIEVE WILL HELP.
UM, I JUST WANNA ALSO PUT A FRAME ON IT, ESPECIALLY DURING COID.
AND, AND SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, IT WAS REALLY HARD TO GET LIFEGUARDS.
AND IT WAS, SO THAT KIND OF BUMPED UP THE SALARY LEVEL.
WE'RE ALSO NO LONGER COMPETITIVE, TO BE HONEST.
UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A PROGRAM LIKE THE JCC, THEY'RE AT ABOUT 20 TO $22 AN HOUR, AND WE'RE STILL AT 16 TO 18.
AND I KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, PARKS AND REC CAN RELATE TO THAT JUST AS, AS WELL AS THE DRIVERS.
UM, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THE CENTER SIDE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU HAVE ROYAL COACH THAT'S AT 24, 20 $6 AN HOUR, AND WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR THAT.
SO IT MAKES IT VERY HARD, UH, TO HIRE.
AND GRANTED WE HAVE GOOD PEOPLE.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LOVE TO CHANGE THAT IN THE SUMMER IS WHAT'S THE INDOOR POOL SCHEDULE? ARE YOU OPEN THROUGHOUT? BECAUSE I REMEMBER MM-HMM.
YOU CLOSE, I THINK TWO WEEKS AT MOST.
WE'RE DOING SOME TYPE OF MAJOR, UM, MAINTENANCE, BUT WE DIDN'T DO THAT AN ALL, WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT IN ABOUT THREE YEARS BECAUSE WE PUT A LOT INTO THAT POOL ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO.
SO THE POOL IS OPEN LIKE EVERY SEVEN DAYS.
BUT SUMMER HOURS IS WHAT YOU'RE, ARE YOU REFERRING TO? YEAH.
SO SUMMER HOURS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
UM, WHAT'S THE SUMMER? JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, 400 KIDS IN, IN BOTH CAMPS THAT ARE UTILIZING THE POOL.
UM, BUT WE STILL MAKE IT A, A POINT TO HAVE LAPS ON.
UM, IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS, YOU KNOW, LAP SWIMMERS WOULD LIKE, BUT IT'S REALLY ALL WE HAVE TO OFFER.
YOU KNOW, WE ONLY ARE OPEN X AMOUNT OF HOURS.
WE HAVE A CAMP FOR X AMOUNT OF HOURS, SO WHATEVER'S LEFT OVER, IT GOES TO, TO LAP AND REC.
THERE ARE MORE OPTIONS IN THE SUMMER ANYWAY FOR LAP SWIMMERS.
SO IS THERE, IF YOU HAVE AN OUTDOOR POOL, WHICH WE HAVE AT ANTHONY VETERAN, AND YOU HAVE THE INDOOR POOL AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, IS THERE, WOULD THERE BE, I'M JUST THINKING LIKE OUT LOUD, IS THERE, WOULD THERE BE ANY BENEFIT TO HAVE ALL THE AQUATIC PROGRAMS UNDER SAY ONE, ONE DEPARTMENT AND THEN HAVE THE LIFEGUARDS, YOU KNOW, SOME DAYS IF THERE'S A SHORTAGE, SAY ANTHONY VETERAN PARK, YOU KNOW, GO TO THE POOL THERE.
UH, I MEAN, COULD YOU SEE ANY, ANY BENEFITS TO THE TOWN? NO, MY INITIAL RESPONSE TO THAT WOULD BE NO.
BECAUSE OF THE TRANSPORTATION COSTS WOULD BE EXTREMELY ELEVATED TO TRY TO GET THOSE TWO TO 400 KIDS ON OUR END OVER TO PARKS OF REC OR VICE VERSA.
WELL, I THINK THAT WAS NOT WHAT, WHAT ABOUT, YEAH, I'M TALKING ABOUT STAFFING, BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRANEOUS STAFF, YOU CAN'T SPARE THEM FROM ONE FACILITY TO THE OTHER.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S WAYS, WHEN THERE'S SHORTAGES IN ONE YOU, YOU KNOW, SHARING LIFEGUARDS OR, BUT, BUT IF BOTH ARE SHORT, WHO ARE YOU SHARING? AND THEY'RE ALREADY WORKING, SO YEAH.
I MEAN, THERE'S NOT EXCESSIVE STAFF TO BEGIN WITH SO THAT YOU,
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THEY COULD SPARE SOMEONE TO GO OVER THE RIGHT.I THOUGHT YOU WERE SAYING PUT LIKE ALL THE KIDS OVER AT ONE FACILITY, SORRY, FOR THE LIFEGUARDS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE LIFEGUARDS AT THE TOWN AT VETERAN PARK ARE GETTING THE SAME COMPENSATION.
WE'RE, WE'RE IN ALIGNMENT WITH, UM, PARKS AND MIGRATION.
UM, ONE OF THE BIG PIECE, UH, KIMBERLY, THE HEATING IN THE POOL, UH, MUCH DIFFERENT TYPE OF HEATING, BUT, UH, WHAT IS IN NOW IS 14,000.
AND AT THE MOMENT WE ARE AT 25 7 35.
UM, THAT'S JUST A NUMBER THAT HAS TO GO IN.
AGAIN, WE DIDN'T PUT IT IN AS MUCH BECAUSE IN THE PAST, UH, THAT'S HOW IT WAS RUN
BUT I WANTED TO MAKE YOU KNOWLEDGEABLE OF THOSE NUMBERS.
I'M PROBABLY GONNA AMEND THAT.
WELL, WITH THE POOL, I'M SORRY THAT I'M JUST IT'S ALRIGHT.
COMING UP WITH A LOT OF QUESTIONS, UH, UH, WITH THE POOL, WHAT PERCENT OF THE PEOPLE WHO USE THE POOL, UH, LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED AND WHAT PERCENT WILL LIVE OUTSIDE OF UNINCORPORATED, WOULD YOU THINK IT WOULD DEPEND IN WHICH WAY YOU USE IT? SO BESIDES LAP SWIM, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM UNINCORPORATED, UM, EXCUSE ME, FROM WHAT'S THE OTHER ONE? INCORPORATED.
INCORPORATED, EXCUSE ME,
OUR OTHER PROGRAMMING IS USUALLY REALLY UNINCORPORATED NON, UH, OR, UM, UH, INCORPORATED.
AND, BUT REALLY GREENBURG, THEY REALLY FALL IN THERE.
AND THAT'S WHETHER IT'S CHILDREN, ADULTS, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S REALLY A, A COMMUNITY TYPE THING.
AND THROUGH THE PROGRAM THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, WE'RE TURNING OVER A LOT OF OUR KIDS, I WOULD SAY OVER THE LAST THREE, FOUR YEARS THAT ARE GO INTO OUR, UM, STROKE MECHANICS AND THEN SECOND LEVEL THERE TO BECOME OUR LIFEGUARDS.
AND THAT'S HOW WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RETAIN A GOOD NUMBER MORE OF OUR LIFEGUARDS BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN OUR KIDS ALL ALONG.
SO RESIDENT IS UNINCORPORATED.
AND IS THAT A SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH AMOUNT? IS THAT SOMETHING OF, TO LOOK AT? NONE OF OUR PART IS SIGNIFICANT TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, OFF THE, YOU KNOW, THE SERVICES WE PROVIDE.
UM, BUT THAT'S US BEING A GOVERNMENT AGENCY.
UM, ALSO, WHAT DO YOU CHARGE FOR A NON-RESIDENT IN TERMS OF WHAT PROGRAM? IT'S USUALLY LIKE 20 TO $30 MORE FOR THE ACTUAL PROGRAM.
SO IF I HAVE A PURCHASE PER SUMMER, YEAH.
IF I HAVE A PROGRAM THAT'S A HUNDRED DOLLARS PER YEAR, YOU KNOW, 120 TO 130 WOULD BE THE, THE NON-RESIDENT.
SO IT'S A 20% DIFFERENCE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND IS THERE A DAILY PRICE? NO, NOT, UM, A DAILY SWIM PRICE.
JUST ASK YOU MORE OF A QUESTION FOR JOE.
AND, BUT JOE HAS ACCESS, YOU KNOW, HE HAS BETTER KNOWLEDGE OF THE ACTUAL MAP THAT WE UTILIZE.
UM, THERE WERE SOME GLITCHES WITH THAT, UH, BECAUSE WE HAD SOME, YOU KNOW, I KNOW CERTAIN INDIVIDUALS REACHED OUT TO YOU.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE ACTUAL RESIDENTS, BUT, UH, WE FOUND SOME DISCREPANCIES IN THE, IN THE ACTUAL MAP.
SO, SO WE HAVE THE LAST, YOU KNOW, WE SPOKE MAYBE A YEAR AGO ON THIS, I THINK YOU MENTIONED THAT THE VILLAGE PERCENT, THE PERCENTAGE OF VILLAGE PARTICIPATION AT THE CENTER WAS MAYBE ABOUT 20, 25%.
AND SO 75% UNINCORPORATED AND 25% VILLAGE, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S VERY CONSISTENT.
LIKE I RUN THAT REPORT EVERY YEAR OR TWO YEARS.
AND MOST OF THE VILLAGES WOULD BE ELMSFORD OR IS IT ALL OVER? UM, NO, IT'S ALL OVER.
AND THERE'S, I MEAN, EVEN IN THE REPORT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE BROKE THAT DOWN.
WE BROKE IT DOWN TO WHERE THAT MM-HMM.
WELL, IF THERE ARE ANY SUGGESTIONS OR RECOMMENDATIONS OTHER THAN JUST, YOU KNOW, INCREASES IN BUDGET, IF YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGING FEE STRUCTURE OR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PROGRAMS THAT AREN'T WELL ATTENDED YES.
AND ARE LOST LEADERS, THEN PLEASE DO PUT THAT TOGETHER AS WELL.
YEAH, WE, WE PUT A, UH, I MEAN THE LAST FORMAL REQUEST FOR, UH, FEE INCREASES I BELIEVE WAS 2017.
UM, SO IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE ACTUALLY ADJUSTED FEES.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S DEFINITELY A, A CONVERSATION.
BUT THAT ALSO PLAYS INTO THE REVENUE GENERATING CONVERSATION THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
THE QUESTION I HAVE, BECAUSE THE BUDGET'S COMING UP, YOU KNOW, BY OCTOBER 30TH.
AND IF THERE, IF THERE'S A WAY OF GETTING MORE REVENUE, I MEAN, COULD YOU, BETWEEN NOW AND NEXT WEEK SAY THIS IS THE REVENUE CHANGES WOULD, WOULD LIKE, BECAUSE IF WE COULD ESPECIALLY SAY FOR NON-RESIDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF THERE, IF 24% OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS, UH,
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YOU KNOW, VILLAGE OR RESIDENTS OUT OF THE AREA, AND WE COULD BUMP THAT UP BECAUSE THE VILLAGES DON'T WANT TO INCLUDE IT IN THE A BUDGET, UM, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DO THAT AND WE COULD TELL KIMBERLY, THIS IS ADDITIONAL REVENUE AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BETTER.IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK YOU COULD PULL TOGETHER IN A WEEK OR, UM, I MEAN, LISTEN, WE, WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE MADE.
UM, KIMBERLY, IT ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE WE'VE ADJUSTED THE 2025, UM, REVENUE FOR AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE TOWN.
UM, 'CAUSE WE'VE CONSISTENTLY MADE WELL OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND MM-HMM.
UM, SO I MEAN, THAT'S DEFINITELY A CONVERSATION TO, TO HAVE INCREASING FEES WOULD ONLY ADD TO THAT NUMBER.
YEAH, IT'S JUST, I MEAN, IT'S JUST A MATTER, THE QUESTION REALLY IS IN THIS SHORT TIMEFRAME, WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DO WITHIN A WEEK'S TIME OR LET'S BE REALISTIC, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE TO CONSIDER FOR THE 2026 BUDGET.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE COULD DO IT IN TWO, 2025.
BECAUSE IF WE COME UP, IF WE BASICALLY SAY THE BUDGET DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ADOPTED UNTIL DECEMBER.
SO IF WE, EVEN IF WE KNOW WE'RE GOING TO, IF THE LAST TIME WE RAISED FEES WAS 2017 AND WE BASICALLY, UH, COULD BUMP UP, THEN, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT WE BUMP IT UP BECAUSE WE WERE ANTICIPATING THAT WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING AND THEN YOU WORK OUT WITH KIMBERLY, THE FEE SCHEDULE, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE SOME OF THE INCREASES, THEN WE COULD INCLUDE THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN THIS YEAR'S BUDGET.
WELL, WE DIDN'T LET KIMBERLY ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT SHE COULD DO IT IN THAT TIMEFRAME.
SO THEN WE'LL HAVE IT BY MONDAY,
AND THEN LET US KNOW WHETHER IT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU FEEL THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT OR NOT.
AND ALSO IF, IF THEY PUT THIS YEAR, IF THEY PUT IN A HUNDRED THOUSAND AND THEN THEY FIGURE THAT THE INCREASE IN INCREASE IN FEES IS GONNA MAKE IT TO 120 AND WE DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING ADOPTED, BUT YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA, DO WE, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE WE'LL ADOPT SOMETHING BY THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.
WELL, IDEALLY PAUL, BUT LET'S NOT PLAY IN SUPPOSITIONS.
LET'S JUST SEE WHERE THEY COME.
AND, AND I'M JUST FOR FOR CLARITY PURPOSES, WE'RE ALREADY, YOU KNOW, BRINGING IN WELL OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FROM THAT ADDITIONAL, UM, REVENUE LINE.
SO THIS WOULD ONLY ADD TO THAT NUMBER.
BUT ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE WOULD THEN GET THAT BACK INTO OUR BUDGET? LIKE WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE POINT OF DOING THAT? WELL, BASICALLY THEY THEN COULD HAVE A LOWER TAX INCREASE, YOU KNOW, WHERE IT WILL KEEP THE TAX RATE LESS.
AND ALSO I FEEL THAT IF WE'RE SHOWING PEOPLE IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG THAT WE'RE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE ARE UNINCORPORATED, ARE PAYING FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER, PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGES ARE NOT PAYING, BUT PEOPLE, 25% OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE USING IT LIVE IN THE VILLAGES, THEN THEY SHOULD BE PAYING A FAIR SHARE.
SO DAVID, I THINK TO YOUR QUESTION, PROBABLY THE, THE REVENUE THAT WE MIGHT HAVE INCREASED WOULD COME TO THE, THE TOWN AND THE OTHERS WOULD COME TO YOUR BUDGET.
I, KIMBERLY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
BUT YOU WOULD NEED TO OFFSET THE PROGRAMS OF THE EXPENDITURES OF THE PROGRAMS FIRST.
'CAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE WANNA A BE BUDGET BREAK EVEN, WE'RE NOT TO MAKE A PROFIT.
UM, SO THE, YOU KNOW, FIRST AND FOREMOST IT WOULD BE TO OFFSET THOSE EXPENDITURES.
UM, I, I JUST WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE KIMBERLY'S WORK.
YOU KNOW, SHE'S, SHE'S TAKING THE TIME TO, UM, YOU KNOW, COME DOWN AND MEET WITH US AND MEET WITH OUR STAFF AND KIND OF SEE, YOU KNOW, OUR FACILITY AND THE, AND THE OFFERINGS.
UM, AND I, I DON'T RECALL THAT BEING DONE IN THE PAST.
UM, SO KIMBERLY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, FOR YOUR DILIGENCE HERE AND UNDERSTANDING YOUR PLEASURE.
UH, ONE OR TWO OTHER PIECES THAT ARE JUST OFF, UM, ACCRUED TIME, TIME THIS YEAR WE GOT A, UH, 30, ABOUT A $3,500, UM, ADDITIONAL CHARGE TO WHAT'S IN THAT BALANCE.
UH, SO YOU'LL SEE OUR CURRENT SPENDING AT 6,000 1 57, BUT THE BUDGET WE HAVE IS 2,500.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW ALL THAT GOES INTO THE ACCRUED TIME, BUT I KNOW THAT'S SOME KIND OF MATHEMATICAL EQUATION ABOUT
AND POSSIBLY THE SAME WITH, UM, LONGEVITY.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
THE LONGEVITY WOULD BE CORRECT.
I'LL LOOK AT THE ACCRUED TIME.
BUT, BUT WE SHOULD PROBABLY MEET, YOU KNOW, OR, OR AT LEAST TO ASSUME ON FRIDAY JUST TO GO THROUGH THESE NUMBERS ONE MORE TIME.
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WONDERFUL.ALRIGHT GUYS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
ACTUALLY, LET ME, UH, GARRETT, THANK YOU.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE IF GARRETT'S BUDGET IS SO SMALL TO DO GARRETT FIRST SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO WAIT? GARRETT'S BUDGET IS SO SMALL.
I'M WONDERING IF IT THAT'S OKAY.
I MEAN, I HAVE TO RUN UPSTAIRS AND GRAB MY STUFF.
SO YOU TAKE WHATEVER YOU WANT.
IS EVERYONE, WE NEGLECTED TO HAVE THE LAST TWO PEOPLE INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
SO TERRANCE JACKSON, I'LL INTRODUCE MYSELF.
MY NAME'S JOE LUC CASEY, I'M THE COMMISSIONER OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF PARKS AND RECREATION.
HOW ARE YOU? I WOULD'VE LOST THE BET TO SAY I COULD WEAR A SHORT SLEEVE SHIRT IN, UH, A BUDGET HEARING THIS LATE IN THE YEAR.
MY OFFICE, MY COUNTY OFFICE WAS SWELTERING WITH ME TODAY.
UM, YEAH, NORMALLY WE'RE ALL BUNDLED UP WITH COATS ON THIS TIME OF THE YEAR WHEN WE DO THESE THINGS.
WELL I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE COLD IN HERE.
SO I DRESSED IN LAYERS JUST IN CASE.
SO WHERE DO, WHERE WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO START? SO AGAIN, THE PART-TIME OVER HERE IS WAIT WITH NEGATIVE, LEMME START WITH A POSITIVE.
IS THAT ALL RIGHT? WHICH WOULD YOU LIKE TO START? WE'VE GOT WITH REVENUES, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS.
ONE, WHICH DEPARTMENT? UM, WE'LL GO TO THE 70 20 AT THE VERY BEGINNING AT THE TOP OF THE, THE PAGE, THE REC.
AND YOU'RE GONNA SEE THAT, UM, OUR REVENUES RIGHT NOW HAVE, ARE GOING TO EXCEED WHAT WE HAD PROJECTED.
UM, IT'S HARD TO TELL EXACTLY HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA BE, BUT WE'RE ALMOST TO THE, UM, TO THE LEVEL RIGHT NOW OF $619,000 THAT BROUGHT IN.
WE HAD PROJECTED SIX 20, I MOVED IT TO 6 25.
I THINK THAT MIGHT BE A LITTLE CONSERVATIVE, BUT WE HAVE BEEN TRYING TO BE CONSERVATIVE SO THAT WE MEET OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS AND POSSIBLY GO OVER, UM, THAT.
AND THEN ON THE, UH, WE HAVE ANOTHER REVENUE LINE THAT'S, UH, 520,000 THAT'S ON ANOTHER PAGE, BUT WE'LL GET TO THAT.
BUT THAT ALSO WILL MEET ITS PROJECTION THIS YEAR TOO.
AND A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WEATHER RELATED, UM, BUSINESS THAT WE HAVE, LIKE THE POOL FOR INSTANCE.
WE HAD A PRETTY DRY SUMMER, SO THAT REALLY HELPED US A LOT WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, MEETING OUR REVENUE PROJECTIONS.
ALSO, THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN CAMPS SEEMS TO BE GROWING AGAIN, BACK UP FROM THE COVID, UH, LULL THAT WE HAD.
UM, I THINK THOSE ARE POSITIVES.
WE ALSO, UM, THE FRONT GATE OF THE POOL, WE WENT FROM 28,000 APPROXIMATELY THAT WENT THROUGH IN 2023 TO TWO 31,000 THIS YEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, CROSSED JUST THROUGH THE FRONT GATE OF THE POOL OVER THE 89 DAYS THAT WE WERE OPEN.
UH, ARE THERE ANY, JUST LIKE WE ASKED THE COMMUNITY CENTER, ARE THERE ANY REVENUE, UH, ANYTHING WE COULD DO TO INCREASE REVENUES IN 2025 IN TERMS OF FEES AND STUFF? WELL, WE, UH, WE, WE, SOME OF THE BIGGEST REVENUES THAT WE HAVE ARE, UM, ARE DAY CAMPS AND OUR POOL REVENUES.
THOSE ARE THE TWO GEN THAT GENERATE THE MOST.
UM, I FEEL COMFORTABLE AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO LOOK AND SEE IF WE CAN HOLD TO THE LINE, UM, ONE MORE YEAR.
BUT I THINK AFTER NEXT YEAR WE'RE PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT RAISING IT.
WE DID DO, UM, RAISING IT FROM RAISING THEM, ESPECIALLY I HAVE, UH, DAY CAMPS AND POOL REVENUES.
WE FIND OURSELVES IN THE MIDDLE, UM, OF MOST OF THESE THINGS.
UM, WE DON'T WANNA PRICE OURSELVES OUT.
UM, MUNICIPAL RECREATION PROVIDES A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO PUT THEIR CHILDREN DURING DAY CAMP, UH, SEASON.
UM, BUT TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WE, UH, WE CHARGE, UH, OUR RESIDENTS $945 FOR A SIX WEEK CAMP.
EDGEMONT, UH, RECREATION CHARGE 2,200 FOR A FIVE WEEK CAMP THIS YEAR.
BUT WE WON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE PRICE STICKER SHOCK FOR OUR RESIDENTS OVERNIGHT.
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SO IF WE WANNA LOOK AT THAT AND RAISE IT, WE CAN DEFINITELY.AND LIKE YOU SAID, WE HAVE UNTIL DECEMBER.
UM, BUT WE, WE HAVE A GOOD HANDLE ON WHAT WE CAN DO AND WE HAVE AN APPROXIMATION OF HOW MANY KIDS WILL BE IN THERE.
SO WE CAN GIVE A VERY CLOSE APPROXIMATION OF, IF I RAISED IT A HUNDRED DOLLARS, YOU'RE GONNA RAISE PRETTY MUCH THIS AMOUNT OF MONEY.
BUT, BUT WE ALSO HAVE SCHOLARSHIPS FOR ANYBODY WHO CAN'T AFFORD IT.
IF, UM, IF PEOPLE ARE PAYING 900 AND UM, IT TURNS OUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY'RE OUT OF WORK OR WHATEVER, WE'LL LET THEM IN FOR FREE.
YOU, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE OUT OF WORK.
WELL, I WOULDN'T GO SO FAR AS SAY FOR FREE, BUT WE DO HAVE A SYSTEM THAT WE GO THROUGH WHERE SOMEBODY BRINGS IN THEIR FINANCIAL, UM, PAPERS MM-HMM.
AND THEN WE HAVE A, A GRID THAT WE GO THROUGH.
WE SHARE THE SAME PROCESS THAT WE DO WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS DO WE GIVE? I THINK THIS YEAR WE WERE ABOUT 30.
SO THE QUESTION IS, AND WE ALSO DON'T REFER TO 'EM AS SCHOLARSHIPS, WE CALL IT FINANCIAL AID 'CAUSE RIGHT.
SO IF IT'S FINANCIAL AID OR WHATEVER IT IS, AND OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE CHARGING MORE, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO DO LIKE A LITTLE, RATHER THAN DO LIKE A BIG JUMP, YOU KNOW, A BIGGER JUMP NEXT YEAR? WOULD IT BE BETTER DOING LIKE A INCREMENTAL JUMP SAY THIS YEAR, ANOTHER INCREMENTAL JUMP, SAY THE FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, IF WE DO LITTLE BY LITTLE EVERY YEAR, UH, THAT MIGHT BE EASIER THAN SAY, OH, WE'RE GONNA WAIT, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AND THEN, AND THEN IT'S A BIGGER JUMP.
THAT'S SOMETHING YOU COULD, THAT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING WE CAN CONSIDER.
UM, I'LL SIT DOWN WITH THE TEAM AND WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME STUFF.
UM, WE, YOU KNOW, THE THE INTERESTING THING ABOUT, UM, PRICING IS THAT WE GET TO FACE THE PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME IN.
WE ACTUALLY GET TO SEE THE REACTION, THE STICKER SHOCK THAT THEY SAY MM-HMM.
UM, AND, AND I FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT WE PROBABLY CAN RAISE IT.
UM, BUT I WANNA SIT DOWN AND LOOK AT THE NUMBERS AND I USUALLY AS A BUDGET HEARING SAY INCREASE IT.
AND THEN IN APRIL I'LL SAY, I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE DOING.
CAN YOU GIVE THEM, SO, UH, SO I KNOW WHAT, I'VE BEEN IN THIS MOVIE FOR A LONG TIME.
SO JOE, WOULD YOU, SO SO GREENBERG IS THE LOWEST OF THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT YOU'VE TRACKED.
THE MUNICIPAL, THE HASTINGS IS UH, LOWER THERE AT ONLY A FIVE WEEK CAMP.
UM, WE DO ADD, SO OUR CAMP IS FOR SIX WEEKS.
WE DO NOT PROVIDE TRANSPORTATION TO THE CAMP, BUT YOU CAN BUY IT.
SO YOU CAN BUY INTO THE TRANSPORTATION IF YOU WANNA STAY LONGER.
THOSE ARE, UM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
COMMUNITY CENTER HAS ONE PRICE, $700 AND THAT INCLUDES EVERYTHING.
UM, HASTINGS, I THINK IT'S FIVE WEEKS.
AND, UH, DO THEY INCLUDE TRANSPORTATION? MM-HMM.
MANY PLACES DON'T BECAUSE TRANSPORTATION HAS BECOME SUCH A, A, A, A EXPENSIVE EXPENSIVE YES.
BUT WE REALLY NEED IT THOUGH BECAUSE OUR, WE DON'T HAVE A CENTRAL LOCATION.
SO OUR CAMPS, WE HAVE FIVE CAMPS AND THERE'S ONLY ONE THAT'S ACTUALLY LOCATED AT VETERAN PARK.
SO IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET TO THE POOL, WE HAVE TO HAVE TRANSPORTATION JUST TO BRING 'EM TO THE POOL.
WE GO AHEAD AND WE CONTRACT OUT TO BRING 'EM TO THE CAMPS TOO.
AND SO YOU PAY EXTRA FOR THAT.
BUT IF YOUR, UH, CAMP IS AT, UM, LET'S SAY CONCORD ROAD SCHOOL.
THEN YOU HAVE TO BE BROUGHT TO THE POOL EVERY DAY.
IF YOU'RE AT LEE F JACKSON, SAME THING.
SO WE HAVE BUSES COMING AND GOING ALL THE TIME.
AND SOME OTHER CAMPS THAT DON'T HAVE THAT PARTICULAR PORTION.
LET'S SAY THE CAMP IS RIGHT NEXT TO THE POOL.
YOU PROBABLY AREN'T DOING BUSES 'CAUSE THEY'RE SO EXPENSIVE RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PROVIDING THE CAMP.
IT'S VERY HELPFUL, ISN'T IT? YEAH.
I'M JUST LOOKING, DOES ANYBODY HERE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I, I MEAN, MINIMUM WAGE RIGHT NOW IS AFFECTING US.
UM, ONE OF THE DRIVERS FOR MOST OF THE MONEY THAT WE SPEND OUT OF ALL OF THE BUDGETS THAT WE HAVE ARE, ARE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WHO CONTRACTUALLY HAD AN INCREASED THIS YEAR.
SO THE MINIMUM WAGE IN NEW YORK IS GOING UP 50 CENTS THIS YEAR FROM 16 TO 16 POINT 50.
WE'RE NOT REQUIRED TO ADHERE TO THAT, BUT WE ALSO ARE IN THE MARKETPLACE FOR LABOR.
AND IF WE WANT TO GET QUALITY PEOPLE, WE HAVE TO BE COMPETITIVE.
SO WE DON'T ACTUALLY MEET IT AT SOME OF THE LOWEST ENDS, BUT THE ENTIRE, THE ENTIRE SYSTEM IS RATCHETED UP.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT WERE ACTUALLY DRIVING OUR PART-TIME LABOR UP.
ONE WAS THE, UH, MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE AND THE OTHER ONE WAS FOR THE POOL, WHICH IS, UM, BUDGET NUMBER 7 1 8.
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THE COUNTY AND THE, THE, THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, UM, HAS ACTUALLY MANDATED THAT WHEN WE HAVE DAY CAMPS THAT WE HAVE AN IDENTICAL LIFEGUARD WATCHING THE CAMPERS WHILE ANOTHER LIFEGUARD WATCHES THE GENERAL PUBLIC.WELL THAT'S THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
I THINK THAT'S, IT'S THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND I, I'M TRYING, THEY, THEY DON'T, UM, UH, ENFORCE THIS EQUALLY.
SO ONE HEALTH DEPARTMENT PERSON MAY SAY YOU HAVE TO DO IT AND THE NEXT ONE SAYS NO.
SO I PUT IT IN THE BUDGET BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE PERSON'S GONNA BE THAT WE HAVE THAT'S GONNA BE ENFORCING THOSE RULES NEXT YEAR.
WELL, I THINK THAT'S A MATTER OF THEN CLARIFICATION FROM THE HEALTH, THE, THE BOARD OF HEALTH.
SO YEAH, NO, I, I APPRECIATE THAT.
I APPRECIATE THAT SENSITIVITY TO THAT.
BUT IF THEY WERE TO SAY, 'CAUSE I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT IF I'M AT THE, AT THE KITTY POOL AND I HAVE FOUR LIFEGUARDS THERE, WHICH IS THAT I FEEL THAT THEY'RE WATCHING ALL OF OUR CAMPERS AND GENERAL PUBLIC.
IF THEY WANT ME TO PUT EIGHT THERE, WE WILL.
SO WE PUT THAT MONEY INTO THE BUDGET.
IF WE DON'T HAVE TO, THAT MONEY WILL STAY IN THE GENERAL FUND.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS A DRIVER.
OH, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SUPPLIES.
YEAH, I WAS GONNA SAY, WHICH, WHICH BUDGET? SO, UM, UH, REC ADMIN.
SO, UM, IT'S TOWARDS THE BOTTOM.
SO YOU'VE BEEN, YOUR BUDGET'S BEEN ABOUT 5,000 LET'S SAY, BUT IT'S 13,000 FOR 2025.
DID, DID YOU, COULD YOU SEE THE NOTES THAT I WROTE IN THERE? ARE THEY TOO SMALL TO READ? YES.
NO, NO, WE DON'T SEE ANY OF THAT.
SO HERE'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT.
SO WE WERE LIVING OFF OF A, OF A, UM, INVENTORY, A COLLECTION OF SOFTBALLS THAT WE HAD HAD THROUGH COVID WHEN WE WERE CLOSED.
AND WE ARE NOW HAVING TO REPLENISH THOSE SOFTBALLS AND WE'VE ADDED ANOTHER LEAGUE ONTO THAT ALSO.
SO IN PARTICULAR, THAT WAS THE, UH, I, I'M TRYING TO REPLENISH THE SUPPLIES INVENTORY.
YOU HAVE BETTER EYES THAN THAT.
DO PEOPLE, UH, IN THE SOFTBALL TEAMS, DID THEY, WHAT'S THE PRICE TO JOIN? I'D HAVE TO, I'D HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
IT'S A TEAM PRICE THAT YOU PAY.
AND, UH, BUT THE, WE, WE JUST HAD ALL THIS EXTRA INVENTORY THAT WAS CARRIED OVER FOR OH, I SEE.
NO, SEE, THIS IS THIS LITTLE DETAIL.
I, UM, I TRIED TO INCLUDE THEM IN PLACES WHERE I THOUGHT YOU MIGHT ASK QUESTIONS.
SO COULD HAVE WE CHARGED THE TEAMS MORE? WE COULD.
UM, I HAVE TO, AGAIN, WHAT WE WANT TO DO IS YOU WANNA LOOK AT SURROUNDING MUNICIPALITIES AND LOOK AT COMPARABLE PRICES AND SEE, YOU DON'T WANNA PRICE YOURSELF OUT OF THE MARKET BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE ARE OFFERING A SERVICE TO OUR RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO RECREATE.
AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE, UM, COMPETITIVE WITH EVERYONE ELSE.
AND, BUT I'LL, I CERTAINLY, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT MM-HMM.
AND IF YOU CAN PULL THAT TOGETHER SURE.
IN COORDINATION, WE COULD PROBABLY GET THIS DONE BY EARLY NEXT WEEK.
UM, PROGRAM COUNT THAT WENT UP.
IF YOU LOOK, YOU'LL SEE THAT, UM, WE HAD ORIGINALLY, YOU MAY NOT SEE THIS, BUT ORIGINALLY WE ASKED FOR 16,000 FOR THE, UM, SENIORS PROGRAM, BOTH LINES.
WHAT LINE IS THAT? UH, THAT'S, IT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY DOWN FROM RIGHT.
SO THE, BUT WE'RE REALLY, THE TWO BEFORE BUDGET WAS 19 WAS SIX 18, THE 2024.
WE HAD TO, I ACTUALLY MADE A TRANSFER IN TO GET IT TO 19 MM-HMM.
FOOD FOR PARTIES, FOOD FOR PARTIES.
AND SO I WANTED TO BRING IT UP TO A MORE REALISTIC NUMBER FOR NEXT YEAR.
AND THAT'S, I MEAN, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT A HUGE AMOUNT.
UM, I THINK, AND ANDREA, UH, SHE RUNS OUR, ANDREA JACOBI RUNS OUR PROGRAMS. SHE HAD ASKED FOR 19 AND I THINK WE CUT HER TO 16 LAST YEAR, AND I THINK SHE ENDED UP BEING CORRECT.
SO ARE WE LOOKING AT PARK MAINTENANCE OR A FD? OKAY.
IN PARTICULAR, I THINK WE HAD A, UM, AN INCREASE IN OTHER EQUIPMENT IN 70 50 THAT YOU SEE THERE IS A NOTE.
UM, WE HAVE TO, WE'RE GETTING A 17,000 RIGHT ON MOWER OF THE JOHN DEERE, THE JOHN DEERE, UM, BECAUSE IT'S UNDER $20,000.
AND SO THAT'S JUST A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT'S REPLACING ANOTHER ONE THAT'S BROKEN
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DOWN QUITE A BIT.UM, THAT'S THE REASON THERE WAS A JUMP IN THAT LINE.
UM, AGAIN, THE PART-TIME LINE THAT YOU SEE HERE IS INCREASING, NOT, NOT A LOT, BUT IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, UM, IT'S BEING DRIVEN BOTH BY, UM, NEED, BUT, UM, MOSTLY BY THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE.
BUT YOU'RE GOING DOWN IN EMERGENCY REPAIRS? WELL, YES AND NO EMERGENCY REPAIRS.
ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT'S HARD TO PREDICT BECAUSE OF THE WORD EMERGENCY
SO IN PARTICULAR, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT ONE.
I'M JUST GETTING MY, PUT MY FINGER ON IT.
SO WE HAD ORIGINALLY PUT IN $5,000.
I HAD TO TRANSFER MONEY IN FOR TWO PARTICULAR THINGS.
WE HAD TO ACTUALLY REPLACE THE FOUNTAIN AT EDGEMONT CRANE POND FOR $4,500 AND CHANGE.
AND ALSO THE ROLL DOWN SECURITY GATE AT EASTBROOK PARK, WHICH ALSO WAS OVER $4,000.
SO THOSE TWO ITEMS ALONE JUST KIND OF KNOCK IT OUT AND BOTH OF 'EM HAD TO BE DONE IMMEDIATELY TOO.
NOTHING OTHER THAN BUILDING MAINTENANCE GOING DOWN CONSIDERABLY.
THAT, UH, THOSE ITEMS ARE GIVEN TO US BY THE COMPTROLLER'S DEPARTMENT.
WHAT NEXT SIR? CAN B ANYTHING ELSE? AN B PARK? WE DIDN'T, I'M SORRY.
OH, WE DIDN'T DO ANTHONY AT VETERAN PARK POOL.
SO ANTHONY AT VETERAN PARK IS PRIMARILY THE POOL AND, UM, AND TENNIS.
UM, THE ONLY THING IN PARTICULAR, AND THAT'S OF THAT THERE IS NO, THERE ARE NO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE IN THAT, UM, IN THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET PART-TIME.
BUT IT IS, IT IS DRIVEN BY PART-TIME LINE.
UM, RIGHT NOW, THE, WITH, UH, THE LEFT JAN LE'S RETIRING, RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE TWO ASSISTANTS THAT ARE, UH, UM, WORKING TO HELP US RUN THE PROGRAM.
AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB THIS YEAR.
UM, WE'RE STILL LOOKING, UM, AT A, NOT A FULL-TIME POSITION, BUT A PERMANENT, MORE PERMANENT POSITION FOR THAT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THE DEPARTMENT IS SHORT BASICALLY THAT POSITION.
AND ALSO NOEL'S OLD POSITION FOR SPECIAL REC.
SO SHE'S BEEN WEARING TWO HATS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SO SHE'S BEEN, SHE DON'T WEARING ANY HAT RIGHT NOW.
SHE'S BEEN THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AND DOING A GREAT JOB.
SHE'S ALSO BEEN RUNNING SPECIAL REC, WORKING WITH HER SPECIAL REC TEACHERS.
UM, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO FILL THAT POSITION, BUT WE ARE ALSO IN TOUCH WITH HR RIGHT NOW ABOUT POSSIBLY TAKING HER OLD POSITION AND REFORMATTING IT INTO A REC SUPER POSITION THAT COULD MANAGE BOTH SPECIAL REC AND TENNIS.
BY, BY MERGING THOSE TWO PIECES OF SALARY TOGETHER, WE WON'T INCREASE THE BUDGET NO MATTER WHAT IT, IF ANYTHING, IT'LL BE MAYBE A LITTLE LESS MM-HMM.
AND THAT'LL BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULDN'T PUT INTO THE BUDGET THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT'LL HAVE TO GET COUNTY APPROVAL.
OBVIOUSLY IT'LL HAVE TO GET TOWN BOARD APPROVAL.
BUT IT'S AN ITEM, AN ITEM THAT WE'RE LOOKING INTO TO MAKE SURE, AND IT'LL, IF IT HAPPENS, IT'LL HAPPEN NEXT YEAR.
THEY DO OCTOBER UNTIL LIKE OCTOBER 23RD OR SOMETHING.
SO, SO, SO I'M SORT OF WONDERING LIFEGUARD, UM, YEAH.
SO I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THERE'S LIKE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD INCLUDE IN THE BUDGET, UM, LIKE A LINE SAYING IF THE TEMPERATURE IS OVER, SO 80 DEGREES, 90 THAT YOU CAN'T PLAN FOR.
THIS IS, SO HERE'S THE, HERE'S THE ISSUE.
IT NEVER GOT TO 80 DEGREES THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE, UH, END OF, YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER UNTIL TODAY.
UM, AND YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE POOL, I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT IT, THE POOL IS NOT LIKE A CANOE, IT'S LIKE AN OCEAN LINER.
WE CAN'T OPEN THAT POOL WITHOUT 15 LIFEGUARDS SITTING IN CHAIRS BECAUSE WE HAVE POOLS THAT ARE OUT OF VIEW OF EVERYTHING.
SO THE MINUTE WE OPEN THE DOOR, I HAVE TO HAVE TWO PEOPLE TO COLLECT MONEY.
I HAVE TO HAVE A FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE SOMEWHERE ON STAFF THAT DAY.
I HAVE TO HAVE A WHOLE CREW OF LIFEGUARDS.
I HAVE TO HAVE BLUE SHIRTS, WHICH WE REFER TO AS THE PEOPLE WHO CLEAN THE BATHROOMS AND EVERYTHING.
SO IT'S NOT JUST, HEY, CAN'T YOU PUT ONE GUY IN THE, UH, CHAIR, LIKE AT A COMMUNITY POOL? LIKE IT COULD BE A CO-OP POOL.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN IN A CO-OP, OR EVEN EVEN A POOL LIKE DOBBS FERRY, IF ANYBODY'S BEEN THERE, I CAN SEE FROM ONE END OF THAT POOL TO THE OTHER.
YOU CAN'T DO THAT AT ANTHONY VETERAN PARK.
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EYES ALL AROUND.AND SO THE COST OF STAYING OPEN IS REALLY PROHIBITIVE.
AND WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, LISTEN OCCASIONALLY WE HAVE ACTUALLY SOMEHOW PULLED IT OFF WHERE WE OPEN TO TWO, THREE DAYS WHERE IT WAS OVER 90 DEGREES AND IT HAPPENED, UM, LIKE ON A TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY AND A THURSDAY FOLLOWING LABOR DAY.
UM, BUT WE'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND MOST OF THE TIME WHAT I, I, I DON'T WANT TO COME ACROSS SOUNDING NEGATIVE, BUT YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE NIGHTTIME TEMPERATURE, THAT TIME OF THE YEAR GETS DOWN WELL INTO THE FIFTIES.
AND WE DO NOT HAVE A HEATED POOL.
SO YOU MAY COME IN THAT NEXT DAY AND IT MAY BE 75 DEGREES OUT, BUT THAT POOL WATER IS COLD AND MOST PEOPLE DON'T GET INTO THE WATER.
AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GREAT IDEA.
IT ALSO PLAYS INTO LIFEGUARDS TOO.
WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH LIFEGUARDS.
AND THE HIGH SCHOOL KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL.
WELL, THEY'VE ALL GONE BACK TO SCHOOL.
I WAS GONNA SAY THIS, THE COLLEGE KIDS ARE GONE.
WE SCRAMBLE AT THE END OF AUGUST.
UM, SO WE JUST HAD THE CONVERSATION, PAUL, IF YOU WANNA BE THE LIFEGUARD.
WELL, DON'T CHALLENGE HIM BECAUSE HE DOES GET INTO THE DUNK TANK.
SO I THINK I WAS JUST SAY I FISH HERE, I'LL TAKE CP.
BUT YOU WERE THE ONE WHO, UH,
LISTEN, THEY WERE, UM, SOMEBODY TRY DROWNING ME.
MAYBE YOU'RE, YOU HAD WATER IN YOUR EYES AND YOU COULDN'T SEE WHO IT WAS.
THERE'S A COUPLE TIMES I, THERE WAS A LITTLE KID AND I WENT UP THERE AND TOLD THE KID, GO AHEAD AND PUSH IT.
UM, SO YOU WERE PAYING THE KIDS TO DO THAT.
LISTEN, HERE'S, HERE'S WHAT I'LL TELL YOU.
OF COURSE, AS WE APPROACH THAT END OF YEAR, WE LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE WEATHER.
WE'RE WATCHING THE WEATHER ALL THE TIME.
THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DO.
JUST LIKE SPOOKTOBER FEST LAST WEEK, IT WAS A WONDERFUL DAY.
SO WE'RE WATCHING THAT WEEKS OUT, RIGHT? YEAH.
IT WAS, WELL, I TAKE CREDIT FOR THE WEATHER THIS YEAR, BUT I ALSO GOT THE BLAME LAST YEAR WHEN WE CANCELED BECAUSE IT RAINED TOO.
SO, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE WILL LOOK AT THOSE THINGS VERY CLOSELY EVERY YEAR, BUT IT'S REALLY GOTTA BE 90 DEGREES.
BUT I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THE, IF SAY THERE COULD, SHOULD BE A BUDGET LINE SAYING IN THE EVENT THAT IT'S REALLY HOT, LIKE WHEN YOU HAVE A COOLING CENTER, SO LIKE AN EMERGENCY LINE FOR, FOR EMERGENCY EMERGENCY, FOR A COOLING EMERGENCY.
AND, AND THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT NOEL SAID, WHICH IS LIFEGUARD AVAILABILITY, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WE JUST HAD THIS CONVERSATION.
SO DID T-D-Y-C-C ABOUT LIFEGUARD AVAILABILITY.
IF ALL OF A SUDDEN I CAN ONLY GET MY HANDS ON FIVE LIFEGUARDS, THEN YOU CAN WANT, YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE MONEY IN THE WORLD.
I MEAN, THERE WAS ONE YEAR THAT WE ACTUALLY PAID A PREMIUM, I THINK WE ADDED $5 AN HOUR ONTO THEIR PAY JUST TO GET 'EM TO, TO SIT UP THERE.
BECAUSE SOME OF 'EM ARE FOOTBALL PLAYERS, SOME OF 'EM ARE LACROSSE PLAYERS, SOME ARE CHEERLEADERS.
A QUESTION, UM, IN THE, THE TIME THAT YOU DID, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE THERE ATTENDING TO USE A POOL? I THINK WE MAY, WE MIGHT HAVE ACTUALLY HAD A HUNDRED.
EITHER LAST SUMMER OR THE SUMMER BEFORE.
NO, IT WAS SEVERAL SUMMERS BACK.
IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE ACTUALLY CLOSED.
YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK WOULD'VE BEEN, THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION.
FOR WHATEVER IT'S WORTH, LET'S SAY WHEN PEOPLE ARE APPLYING TO BE A LIFEGUARD, IF THEY, THERE COULD BE A CHECKUP BOX IF UNNEEDED BECAUSE OF WEATHER, YOU ANSWER THIS ONE, THEY CHECK BOX.
WE, WE HAVE THAT ACTUALLY FOR THE REGULAR SEASON.
AND COME AUGUST, IT'S EVERYBODY'S, WELL, MY PARENTS PLANNED A VACATION AND WE'RE GONE.
SO THEY WILL SAY, YES, THEY'RE AROUND.
EVEN FOR THE CAMP SEASON, WE SAY, YOU HAVE TO BE THERE ALL 29 DAYS.
AND WE HAVE PEOPLE OUT LEFT AND RIGHT.
UM, OUR, AND EVERYBODY SAYS YES TO GET THE JOB.
SO THEY WILL BE DEFINITELY CHECKING THAT BOX.
THEY, I, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I WOULD REALLY DOUBT THEY WOULD FOLLOW THROUGH.
SO YOU'LL LOOK AT SOME OF THE REVENUE SURE.
AND, AND YOU CAN MEET WITH, UH, KIMBERLY, MAYBE KIMBERLY, WOULD YOU BE AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH JOE AND NOEL ON FRIDAY? JUST TO GO OVER THE REVENUE INCREASING, UH, THE REVENUE FOR, UH, ACTUALLY THAT WOULD BE THE, THE CAMP INCREASES ALSO, YOU KNOW, CAMP AND SOFTBALL.
AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S ALSO WORTH MENTIONING THAT SPORT TIME WILL BE YEAH.
STARTING CONSTRUCTION AND THEN NOT TOO DISTANT FUTURE.
WE'VE HAD SOME, WE'VE HAD A PRELIMINARY MEETING WITH THE SPORT TIME AND THEY'RE GOING OVER, YOU KNOW, SAFETY CONCERNS, THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'VE BEEN THERE WITH THE, UH, THE PLANNING COMMISSIONER.
SO WE'RE IN THE PRELIMINARY STAGES OF JUST GOING
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THROUGH, AND THEN THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING, BUT RIGHT.SO AT SOME POINT IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS, THERE'LL BE AN ADDITIONAL REVENUE SOURCE THAT WILL MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE AND NOT A BIG DIFFERENCE, BUT IN SOME, SOME OF THE EXPENSE AREAS LIKE MAINTENANCE AND, MM-HMM.
AND ALSO, I GUESS, UH, YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE SUPPLY LINE AND SEE IF WE COULD, YOU KNOW, CHARGE THE TEAMS YOU'RE SAYING.
SO BE BEFORE YOU GO, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT LIKE, TO ME, AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS MEN MENTIONING EARLIER, THIS IS A PERFECT MODEL OF HOW YOU, THE WAY YOU DO YOUR BUDGET AND THEN YOU, YOU PULL OUT THE ITEMS WITH A LITTLE EXPLANATION.
ONE LINE DID YOU COME UP WITH? WELL, I'LL TELL YOU HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? UM, I'M GONNA GIVE KIMBERLY CREDIT ON THIS ONE.
UM, I, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A LIFE, SO I WATCHED THE OTHER PEOPLE DO THIS MEETING AND SO I WAS WATCHING AND SHE MENTIONED THAT YOU COULD PUT NOTES IN ON ONE OF THE MEETINGS.
AND I WAS LIKE, WOW, I NEVER KNEW THAT.
AND SO I WENT IN AND I FOUND THE SPOT AND I, YEAH.
SO IF WE COULD ASK FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE SO HELPFUL.
JUST THE ONE, THESE ONE LINE NOTES ARE SO HELPFUL FOR THE OUT ITEMS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, HIGH TICKET.
I'LL SEND OUT A, A DEPARTMENT HEAD.
AND THEN PRINT THEM OUT ON, ON LEGAL SIZE PAPER.
AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE ANY MORE CHANGES ONCE I DO IT.
THE ONLY PERSON THAT CAN CHANGE IT WILL BE MYSELF AND THE DEPUTY COMPTROLLER.
SO IF WE DO ANY REVENUE INCREASES AND WE'LL GIVE THOSE GOOD GOES TO YOU.
AFTER TOMORROW, WELL, OR JUST CHECK WITH ME AND SEE IF I WROTE THE BUDGET YET.
I HAD PLANNED ON DOING IT THE OTHER DAY, BUT UNI WAS DOWN, SO, UM, LOOKING TO DO IT TOMORROW OR FRIDAY.
UM, I JUST WANNA DOUBLE CHECK, I'M NOT REQUIRED TO COME TO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BUT I LOVE SPENDING TIME WITH YOU GUYS.
PLEASE DON'T TAKE THAT WRONG WAY.
NOW WE HAVE NICE TO HAVE IT SHEET.
SO, UH, MAYBE YOU COULD JUST GIVE US A I HAVE MINE TOO.
AN OVERVIEW OF WHY, I DON'T KNOW.
SO, UM, IT'S THOSE WATCHING HOME.
I'M GARY DUANE, COMMISSIONER THERE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CONSERVATION.
WE HAVE A, UH, FIVE STAFF IN OUR DEPARTMENT, INCLUDING MYSELF.
AND, UH, STARTED THIS YEAR WE ACTUALLY HAD A SIXTH, A PART-TIME FORESTRY OFFICER.
UH, AND THAT POSITION, UH, WAS, WAS VACATED.
UM, JUST, JUST VERY QUICKLY ABOUT OUR DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE, UH, WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS OR, UM, BOTH COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL THAT SEEK TO DEVELOP THEIR PROPERTIES.
UM, OR DEVELOPERS THAT COME IN.
WE ASSIST THEM AND LIAISON WITH THE TOWN BOARD, PLANNING BOARD AND ZONING BOARD.
UH, WE PROJECT TYPICALLY $175,000 OF REVENUE EACH YEAR, WHICH COMES FROM A SERIES OF, UM, REVIEW FEES FROM APPLICATIONS, UH, OUR DEPARTMENT OVERSEAS, UM, UM, COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
AND WE, WE'VE DEVELOPED AREA PLANS TO IMPROVE, YOU KNOW, CERTAIN SECTIONS OF THE TOWN.
WE TRY AND BE PROACTIVE AS POSSIBLE WITH GRANTS, UM, AND, AND JUST GENERALLY ASSIST RESIDENTS AND THE BOARD AS BEST WE CAN.
UM, I GUESS THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ABOUT, OH, JUST TO RECAP FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR, WE DID NOT REQUEST ANY, UH, INCREASES IN ANY OF THE LINES.
IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME AS WHAT WE SUBMIT FOR 2024.
UM, WHAT I RECEIVED FROM KIMBERLY'S STAFF, I DID HAVE A QUESTION.
AS I MENTIONED THE, UM, PART-TIME FORESTRY OFFICER, THAT POSITION, UM, WE HAVEN'T FILLED IT YET.
IT'S BEEN OUTSTANDING FOR ABOUT FIVE MONTHS.
UM, AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT IT'S GONNA BE VERY DIFFICULT TO FILL THAT POSITION TO FIND SOMEONE THAT CAN WORK PART-TIME IN A VERY SPECIALIZED
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POSITION LIKE A FOR FORESTRY OFFICER, OR, I'M SORRY, YEAH.WE'VE GOT, YOU HAVE ZERO SOMETHING, ZERO APPLICATIONS.
AND I KNOW YOU, I THINK YOU SENT ME, I SAID I WENT TO, IS THAT DIFFERENT FROM ARBORIST? IT'S ESSENTIALLY AN ARBORIST.
SO THE, OUR FORESTRY OFFICER IS, YES, THEY WOULD BE, UM, CERTIFIED ARBORISTS.
THEY REVIEW, UM, TREE REMOVAL PERMIT APPLICATIONS AND, UH, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE TOWN'S RULES AND REGULATIONS.
SO, UM, AARON, MY DEPUTY HAS BEEN FILLING IN AND, AND TAKING ON THAT ROLE, WHICH I, I WOULD SUBMIT RESPECTFULLY IS NOT THE BEST USE OF HIS TIME.
WHEN WE HAD THE PART-TIME FORESTRY OFFICER, UM, THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO, UM, REVIEW AND PROCESS ALL THE PERMITS.
SO THERE WAS SOME STAFF ASSISTANCE BEYOND EVEN THAT PART-TIME ROLE.
SO WHAT I'VE REQUESTED, THE ONE CHANGE THAT I'VE REQUESTED IS ACTUALLY TO HIRE A FULL-TIME FORESTRY OFFICER AT 80,000 ROUGHLY.
AND, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IT DIDN'T SEEM LIKE THAT WAS IN THE BUDGET THAT I RECEIVED BACK FROM COMPTROLLER.
SO I JUST WANTED TO CONFIRM IF THAT WAS, UM, A POSITION THAT THE TOWN BOARD WAS NOT IN SUPPORT OF, UM, IN EITHER WAY IS OKAY.
I JUST WANTED TO HAVE THAT DESCRIPTION.
VIS-A-VIS THAT, UM, I BELIEVE PARKS HAS NEED OF A FORESTRY OR, YOU KNOW, ALBEIT MAYBE WITH DIFFERENT FUNCTIONS.
SO IF THERE IS ANY WAY TO, AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHETHER THAT WAS A FULL-TIME OR PART-TIME, AND YOU'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT AND IF THERE'S, IF THERE'S ANY POSSIBILITY THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO A FULL-TIME JOB SERVICING BOTH DEPARTMENTS.
YEAH, I, I'D HAVE TO HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE TIME THAT THEY WOULD RIGHT.
EXPECT, UM, I DO THINK IF WE HAD A FULL-TIME FORESTRY OFFICER OUT OF OUR DEPARTMENT, UM, AT FIRST BEFORE THEY GET FULLY ACCLIMATED WITH THE PROCESS, I BELIEVE THEY WOULD SPEND ALL OF THEIR TIME AND PROBABLY FILL THAT WITH JUST DOING THE PERMITS AS THEY GET ACCLIMATED.
AND THERE ARE SOME CHANGES WE WANNA MAKE TO THE LAW TO MAKE IT A BIT MORE USER FRIENDLY FOR RESIDENTS, UM, AND STAFF.
UH, I DO THINK THAT THEY, I COULD SEE LIKE 10 HOURS BEING FREED UP OF THEIR, THEIR TIME.
AND BY ALL MEANS, IF THERE'S A TREE IN A PARK THAT NEEDS AN EVALUATION MM-HMM.
SO, UM, THERE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, AND YEAH.
SO IF YOU SPEAK TO BOTH COMMISSIONERS AND YOU CAN MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ONE WAY OR ANOTHER, UM, OR A RECOMMENDATION THAT IT ISN'T FEASIBLE, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
IN ALL LIKELIHOOD THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DO ALL OF THEIR NEEDS.
BUT I DO THINK THAT, UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ASSIST ON SOME LEVEL.
AND, UM, I WOULD WORK WITH THEM TO, YOU KNOW, IF THEY HAVE IMPORTANT TREES, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S TIME SENSITIVE YEAH.
I WOULD PULL THE STAFF PERSON OFF TO HELP THEM, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.
ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT GROUP? GROUNDWATER HUDSON? UH, AND I MET WITH THEM, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK AND I, YOU KNOW, I ASKED IF THEY KNOW ANYONE WHO WOULD BE INTERESTED IN, UH, IN THE JOB.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, THEY SAID THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, LOOK, BECAUSE SOME OF THE, UH, THEY HAVE STUDENTS WHO GRADUATED, YOU KNOW, PARTICIPATED AND, YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY WERE TRAINED IN TERMS OF FORESTRY, YOU KNOW, ISSUES AND THAT YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO GET A GOOD CANDIDATE FROM THAT AND MIGHT BE, AND ALSO FROM, UM, THE ORGANIZATION THAT THE, ACTUALLY WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE PARKLET WITH ALL THE TREES IN IT.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GETTING AN OPINION ABOUT IT.
WAS THAT ORGANIZATION, IT WAS A NEW YORK BOTANICAL GARDENS? WELL, THEY HAVE YES.
THEM TOO, BUT NO, IT WAS, UM, UM, OH MY GOD.
HOW ABOUT CORNELL COOPERATIVE? NO.
I EMAILED, I, I WAS READING AN ARTICLE ABOUT, UM, YOU MIGHT KNOW HIM, YOU MET YOU, UH, SCOTT HANSON, YOU KNOW, IN DS FERRY.
UH, HE'S ON THE CONS, THEIR CONSERVATION, UH, ADVISORY GROUP.
AND I THOUGHT THAT, AND I WAS READING AN ARTICLE IN THE RIVER TOWNS DISPATCH MM-HMM.
UH, SO I JUST DRAFTED A LETTER SAYING, UM, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HE WOULD KNOW SOMEBODY BECAUSE THE WHOLE ARTICLE WAS, I MEAN, HE BASICALLY IS REALLY INTO FORESTRY MM-HMM.
AND I THINK HE WAS INTERESTED IN, IN THAT, YOU KNOW, SORT OF NOW HAS HIS OWN BUSINESS, BUT MAYBE HE WOULD BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY GROUPS, THEY MAY HAVE CONTACT WITH SOMEBODY WHO'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, INTO THIS.
THE, THE MORE WE CAN GET THE WORD OUT, THE BETTER EVEN, UH, THE O'HARA NATURE PRESERVE IN, UM, IN IRVINGTON, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE AFFILIATED WITH THAT ARE THE TYPES OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD PROBABLY WANT THIS
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WHEN THE GREENBERG NATURE CENTER.THE ONE TRICKY PART IS, LIKE, FOR INSTANCE, WHEN YOU INDICATED, UM, STUDENTS THAT ARE INTO FORESTRY, THEY NEED MORE, THIS IS NOT AN ENTRY LEVEL POSITION.
SO THEY NEED THE ARBOR CERTIFICATION, WHICH TYPICALLY YOU WOULD GET SOMEWHERE THREE TO FIVE YEARS AFTER, YOU KNOW, BEING IN THE PROFESSIONAL WORKFORCE.
UM, AND THAT'S A MANDATE OF HIRING, WHETHER IT'S PART-TIME OR FULL-TIME.
BUT I JUST HAVE LITTLE CONFIDENCE THAT WE WILL EVER FILL A PART-TIME.
WE'LL KEEP LOOKING AND IF YOU HAVE LEADS, I APPRECIATE YOU SENDING THEM.
BUT, UM, SO GARRETT, I'LL MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE FULL-TIME IN YOUR BUDGET.
BUT THEN, SO THEN I, THE ONLY THING THAT POPPED OUT AT ME WAS THE CONSULTING LINE YES.
200 ALL THE WAY BACK TO 2024 ACTUALS WHEN IT WAS 40,000.
UM, I THINK THAT I, I, I THOUGHT THAT THAT'S CONSISTENTLY BEEN 200,000, BUT LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT THAT MEANS.
IS THAT JUST A TYPO, KIMBERLY, DO YOU SEE THAT? OH, THAT, THAT MIGHT BE WHAT'S BEEN SPENT TO DATE, IS THAT THAT IS, YEAH.
SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYTHING'S ENTERED.
HAVING SAID THAT, I WANT YOU TO HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT LINE IS ALL ABOUT.
UM, FIRST OFF, ANY EXPENDITURE FROM THAT LINE WILL NOT BE DRAWN DOWN FROM, WITHOUT A TOWN BOARD RESOLUTION SUPPORTING.
SO I DON'T NECESSARILY FEEL CONFIDENT IN SAYING, CAN YOU PLEASE SET ASIDE, YOU KNOW, $130,000 FOR THIS GRANT, UM, IN CAPITAL ONLY TO FIND OUT WE DON'T GET THE GRANT.
UM, SO I KIND OF, I DON'T WANNA CALL IT FLEX SPENDING, BUT THE GOAL IS TO NOT SPEND IT UNLESS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY ARISES THAT I HAVE YOUR FULL SUPPORT AND SPENDING.
THERE IS THE CHANCE THAT WE NEVER USE ALL OF THAT 200,000.
UH, WE WERE TALKING, UM, YESTERDAY OR TODAY ABOUT A, THE SEWER BREAK ON, UH, EAST HARSDALE AVENUE.
AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA BE HIRING A TRAFFIC CONSULTANT.
WOULD THAT BE THIS LINE? THIS ABSOLUTELY WOULD BE THE TYPE OF LINE FOR THAT.
SO BASICALLY SOMETHING YOU COULD NEVER HAVE ACCOUNTED FOR PRE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
SO THIS IS LIKE REALLY LIKE EXCELLENT BECAUSE PEOPLE AT A HUNDRED AND 120 EAST DALE AVENUE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY ISSUES.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY STILL, SOME PEOPLE ARE STILL QUESTIONING, ARE WE DOING ENOUGH OR NOT? SO WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT GARRETT IS DOING IS HE WE'RE HIRING A TRAFFIC, UM, CONSULTANT WHO COULD LOOK AT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND, UM, AND ALL SAFETY ISSUES.
AND THEN THEY COULD MAKE UP RECOMMENDATIONS ON TOP OF WHAT THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, ARE RECOMMENDING.
AND THEN THEY COULD MEET WITH THE POLICE AND, YOU KNOW, WORK THINGS OUT.
BUT IT'S SORT OF LIKE A SECOND OPINION.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, TODAY I TOOK A LOOK AT THE TREES THAT WERE CUT ON EAST HEART AVENUE AND A MONTH AGO I THOUGHT IT WAS THE WORST THING THAT WAS EVER GONNA HAPPEN,
AND THEN WE, WE HAD SECOND OPINION, THIRD OPINION.
AND THEN ACTUALLY WHEN I WENT DOWN THERE AND I TALKED TO RESIDENTS, PEOPLE SAID, OH, THANK YOU.
AND THEN I SAID, OH, I'M GLAD THAT THE TOWN BOARD WENT ALONG.
I, I I BASICALLY YOU MEAN THE PARK THAT WITH THE EIGHT TREES? YEAH.
PARK THE PEOPLE WHERE IT WAS SO DARK YOU COULDN'T EVEN SEE.
BUT IT LOOKS NICE NOW, YOU KNOW, IT LOOKS GOOD.
SO I ONCE, IN FACT, I SENT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD PICTURES AND THAT, BUT THE THING IS, I FEEL THAT IF WE HAVE THE TRAFFIC CONSULT A THIRD OPINION OR A SECOND OPINION, THEN PEOPLE CAN'T BLAME THE POLICE OR THEY CAN'T BLAME PUBLIC WORKS BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING, WE'RE, IT'S SHOWING THAT WE'RE ERR ERRING ON THE SIDE OF BEING EXTRA CAREFUL.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT I THINK YOU'RE, DO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB ON THAT.
AND GOING BACK TO THE PARKLET, BY THE WAY, IT'S LOOKING GOOD BECAUSE SOME OF THE WORK HAS BEEN DONE.
IT'LL LOOK EVEN BETTER ONCE THEY NO, I'M SAYING.
WELL, I JUST, I JUST WANTED TO, TO REMIND THE LISTENERS THAT THERE'LL BE, THE GROUNDS WILL BE PUT UP TO, WILL BE BUILT UP SO THAT THERE AREN'T TRIP ROOTS, AND THERE'LL BE NEW PARK BENCHES.
AND, AND IT'S ALMOST WAS LIKE A LITTLE DANK UNDER THERE.
I MEAN, IT WAS ASSOCIATED THAT IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A LITTLE DAYLIGHTING OF IT.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURE I SENT IT TO YOU.
UH, IS THERE ANY CAPITAL BUDGET DISCUSSION HERE ON THIS TODAY? YEAH, YOU COULD.
'CAUSE I HAD, I HAD TWO, ONLY TWO.
THE, UM, OLD ARMY SIDEWALK THAT'S, UH, WE RECEIVED THE TAP GRANT.
SO I'VE PUT IN FOR, UH, $340,000 OF NOTE, 2 72 OF THAT WILL BE REFUNDED BY, UH, THE FEDERAL, UH, GRANT.
SO REALLY IT'S A REQUEST FOR 68,000.
WHEN WILL THAT THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT TAKE PLACE?
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OKAY.UM, WE HAVE HAD THE RFP GO OUT.
WE'RE EVALUATING THEM RIGHT NOW.
SO THE NEXT STEP IS TO BRING ON AN ENGINEER TO START DESIGNING THAT PROJECT, UH, IN ALL LIKELIHOOD, THAT IS, UM, AT BEST, UH, 2027 BUILD.
UM, DITTO THAT FOR NOEL WOOD ROAD SIDEWALK, THIS IS THE SPAN, UH, FROM NORWOOD SHOPPING CENTER, ACME PLAZA.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY A REQUEST FOR 60,000.
SO THAT, THAT WILL COVER ALL THE DESIGN FEES FOR THE NEXT, UM, I WOULD SAY MINIMUM YEAR.
SO, SO THAT'S THE 2027 OR 26, I'D SAY 2027.
WHY WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, SO MUCH LONGER THAN WITH, WITH THE FEDERAL FUNDING? UM, THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DESIGN REPORT WORK THAT THEY REQUEST AS WELL.
AND THAT INCLUDES, UH, ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTS.
UM, SO THE STATE ADMINISTERS ALL THE FEDERAL, ALL THE FEDERAL GRANTS ON THE TRANSPORTATION LEVEL.
AND, UM, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, THE LOCAL PROJECTS, UM, THE, THE, THE PROCESS IS JUST VERY RIGOROUS.
UM, IN TERMS OF, YEAH, JUST ENVIRONMENTAL REPORTING, AND IT'S JUST VERY METHODICAL.
THERE'S CERTAIN PINCH POINTS, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA TAKE EIGHT MONTHS ONCE YOU SUBMIT YOUR PACKAGE TO, YOU KNOW, GET THAT APPROVED.
IT'S ONE OF THOUSANDS OF PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FEDERAL LEVEL.
AND THEN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT STATE LEVEL, A SMALLER TRENCH, BUT NONETHELESS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE SMALL SECTOR, IT'S NOT AS QUICK AS YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY.
AND WHILE IT'S NOT FAST, UM, IT ALLOWS FOR LIKE, AS COMPREHENSIVE OF PLANNING FOR THESE PROJECTS AS YOU COULD IMAGINE.
SO THERE'S NOTHING LEFT UNTURNED GIVES AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO RESIDENTS AND HAVE A FEEDBACK LOOP.
SO NOW WE HAVE TO GO TO THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
WHY IS THE CHIEF, THE CHIEF? GOOD EVENING.
I, I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT THIS.
WELL, LET, LET'S GET INTRODUCTIONS AND GOOD EVENING.
KOBE POWELL, CHIEF OF POLICE, CAPTAIN DAN VALENTINE.
UH, THE, UH, THE GOVERNOR'S GONNA SIGN THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS TOMORROW.
THE, THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE TOLD ME.
UM, SO I'M WONDERING HOW FIESTA WOULD BE ABLE TO GET THAT, LIKE, YOU KNOW, INSTALLED.
THAT'S, WE JUST FOUND THAT OUT TODAY.
THAT THE GOVERNOR WAS GOING TO SIGN.
BUT IT SHOULD BE SOMETIME NEXT YEAR, I GUESS.
I JUST GOT THE EMAIL WHEN YOU DID.
UM, SO MAYBE YOU COULD GO OVER SOME OF THE THINGS IN YOUR BUDGET.
UM, THE 2025 CAPITAL BUDGET REQUESTS, THERE ARE NO ITEMS FOR THE A LINE.
THEY'RE ALL BLINE ITEMS. THERE ARE MULTIPLE VEHICLES IN KEEPING WITH OUR VEHICLE REPLACEMENT, UM, PROGRAM SCHEDULED.
AND, UM, ONE VEHICLE THAT IS NOT PART OF THAT ROUTINE REPLACEMENT, HOWEVER, IT'S, UM, TO REPLACE THE, UH, TRAINING UNIT VAN.
IT'S 14 YEARS OLD, RUSTED, MECHANICALLY UNRELIABLE.
AND, UM, SIMPLY PUT ON NEEDS REPLACING THE OTHER ITEMS. UH, THERE ARE THREE OTHER ITEMS OUTSIDE OF THE, UH, VEHICLES, PATROL RIFLES, UH, THE FARROW 3D FREESTYLE MOBILE, WHICH IS, UH, EQUIPMENT USED FOR PROCESSING CRIME SCENES.
AND THEN, UH, THE LAST ITEM IS A VARIABLE MESSAGE SIGN.
SO, UM, IF, UH, YOU WANT ME TO PROCEED WITH THE SPECIFIC, UH, I JUST WANNA FOR EACH POINT OUT ONE, ONE THING.
THERE IS ONE ITEM THAT'S IN THE A BUDGET, WHICH IS THE AMBULANCE.
A L ACTUALLY, IF YOU WANNA EXPLAIN, OR YES.
UH, IT SAYS A LS AMBULANCE, IT SHOULD BE IN THE B LINE.
IT SAYS, UH, I DON'T HAVE THE, IT SAYS A BOND, RIGHT? NO, NO, IT SHOULD BE, IT SHOULD BE B.
SO IT'S, UM, SO WE WEREN'T SURE.
SO WE PUT IT IN A AND WE'LL MOVE IT TO B.
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OKAY, THANK YOU.THE VARIABLE MESSAGE SIGNS, DIDN'T WE PUT SOME OF THOSE IN THE BUDGET FOR, IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET FOR 2000, 20, 24 BUDGET? I THINK THAT WE HAD SOME, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT WAS A LIGHT TRAILER THAT WENT IN FOR THE 24 CAPITAL.
SO THIS IS JUST A DIFFERENT, WELL, WE NEED A LOT OF SIGNS, SO I DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO IT IN TERMS OF THAT CAPITAL BUDGET.
I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S LIKE ANY UPDATE.
UM, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE, UH, BECAUSE OF THE SEWER LINE, YOU KNOW, WORK, UH, WE REALIZE SHOULD EXPEDITE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PURCHASE OF THOSE MESSAGE BOARDS, BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GONNA START WORK WITHIN, SAY, A MONTH, AND THERE'S A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONGESTION, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO, YOU KNOW, TO LET PEOPLE KNOW MR. FINER, I'M NOT PREPARED TO PROMISE TIMELINES ON THESE THINGS.
LIKE TODAY WHEN I WAS GOING ON EAST DALE AVENUE, I THINK THEY HAD A GEARS INITIALLY THE FIRE DEPARTMENT WAS THERE.
THE, I, WELL, I WENT BY BIKE, BUT, UH, IT WAS, THE TRAFFIC WAS LIKE, IT MUST HAVE BEEN A HALF HOUR WAIT.
AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK PEOPLE ARE GETTING LIKE, REALLY, I MEAN, WELL, AND IT'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT WE HAVE THIS, UH, TRAGIC ISSUE THAT IS SO COMPLEX THAT ALL THE VARIOUS, UM, ALL THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT HAVE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER AND DOING THEIR BEST TO ACCOMMODATE EVERYTHING.
AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE FOR THE RESIDENTS, NO ONE IS HAPPY ABOUT IT.
NO, I'M JUST SAYING THE BOARDS, IF THERE'S LIKE ANY WAY, AND IT'S NOT, I'M NOT BLAMING THE POLICE, BUT IF THERE'S ANY WAY THAT WE COULD PURCHASE THESE EXTRA BOARDS, YOU KNOW, EARLY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY AN EMERGENCY, THEN, THEN WE WILL, THEN, THEN PEOPLE WILL BASICALLY, UM, YES.
I THINK WE HAVE AN ANSWER FROM KIMBERLY KIMBERLY'S SAYING, YES.
SO YOU CAN BORROW THE MONEY FROM THE GENERAL FUND TO PURCHASE THE SIGNS.
YOU HAVE ONE YEAR TO PAY IT BACK, AND WHEN THE BORROWING COMES THROUGH, YOU CAN REPLENISH THAT MONEY TO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THE FASTER WE COULD GET IT, I JUST FEEL BETTER.
WE JUST NEED A RESOLUTION TO DO THE CASH TO CAPITAL.
UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ASK ME ABOUT THE ITEMS THAT ARE ON THE BUDGET? NO, I'M, WELL, DEPENDS ON ANYBODY ELSE.
SO, UM, SO WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS.
IT'S, UH, I GUESS A SEWER LINE CLEANING.
AND IS THAT, IS RICH? ARE WE DOING, ARE WE, IT'S NOT ZOOM.
WE'RE NOT DOING THAT CAPITAL BUDGET ARE WE? WASN'T THIS CAPITAL, HIS CAPITAL BUDGET? WE DISCUSSED, UH, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I GUESS.
I THINK HE CAME IN WITH TWO BUDGETS.
BUT WE HAVE THIS, THIS NON, UM, SPECIFIC ITEM ON THE AGENDA.
AND WE HAD THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COME IN, ARE WE EXPECTING PUBLIC WORK AT THE LIBRARY? THIS IS NOT CLEAR.
AND, AND RICK WAS HERE, BUT WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THIS.
SO, UM, KIMBERLY, DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS DOWN? UH, UH, WELL, I WANT TO PRESENT THE CAP.
NO, I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE, YOU HAVE THE DRAFT.
WE DON'T NEED IT TO, TO DISCUSS IT NOW.
BECAUSE WE DIDN'T INVITE IN EVERYONE ELSE TO TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL BUDGET WE WENT.
SO WHAT, THIS IS NOT MAKING SENSE TO ME.
IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GET BACK UP FROM THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND THEN WE CAN CHAT WITH THEM NEXT WEEK, IF THAT'S WHAT, UH, WE COULD DO IT NEXT WEEK, NEXT TUESDAY.
IS THAT OKAY? SO IF YOU CAN SET THAT UP, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
PAUL, DO YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? WELL, WE STILL HAVE OTHER ITEM, THE AGENDA REVIEW.
STREET NAMING FOR CLEO OLIVER.
AND, UH, WE COULD REALLY, UH, PUT THIS ON, UH, SINCE GINA WAS INTERESTED IN THIS, WE SHOULD, WE PROBABLY SHOULD, UH, POSTPONE IT UNTIL NEXT WEEK.
I MEAN, EVERYBODY SUPPORTS THAT, BUT WE COULD COME UP WITH A DATE,
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A DATE WHEN WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DECIDE WHEN WE WANNA PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND WE COULD, AND THE RESOLUTION PARTICIPATE.AND SPEAKING OF NAMINGS OF THINGS, I DID SPEAK WITH THE RESTAURANT, THE URBAN CENTRAL, ABOUT DOING THE RIBBON CUTTING.
AND THEY WANTED, THEY SUGGESTED NOVEMBER 14TH RIBBON CUTTING FOR URBAN CENTRAL.
IT'S A NEW RESTAURANT ON CENTRAL AVENUE RIGHT.
WHAT TIME WOULD THAT BE? WELL, WE CAN DISCUSS THAT WITH THEM, BUT IF IT'S THE 14TH IS A THURSDAY, SO LET'S SAY, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE 30 OR SOMETHING.
LET ME JUST SEE IF THERE'S, SO WAIT, HOLD ON FOR A SECOND.
THE FOOD IS REALLY EXCELLENT THERE.
UM, BUT I THINK BECAUSE OF THE CENTRAL AVENUE CONSTRUCTION, THEY'VE HAD A DROP OFF IN BUSINESS AND WE WANT TO DO WHAT WE CAN TO HELP THEM.
THEY OWN OTHER RESTAURANTS IN THE COUNTY, SO.
BUT ISN'T NOVEMBER FOUR, THAT'S THE SECOND 14TH.
ISN'T THAT WHEN THEY HAVE THE MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS? OH, IS THAT, YEAH.
WHAT TIME IS THAT? THIS, IF WE DO THIS AT, WELL, IT DEPENDS.
IS THAT WHEN ARE, WHEN WE'RE HAVING TO DO IT? ARE WE HOSTING IT THE DECEMBER? NO, NO, WE'RE HOSTING IT DECEMBER.
WELL, I THINK THAT IT DEPENDS ON WHERE IT IS.
IF IT'S A BIT OF A DRIVE, IF IT'S UP IN, IN YORKTOWN SUMMERS OR YORKTOWN, YOU KNOW, BEDFORD, I THINK IT'S BEDFORD OR YORKTOWN.
SO THAT'S THE SECOND THURSDAY YEAR.
DID YOU SAY THE 14TH? THE 14TH, YEAH.
I USUALLY THE MEETING'S NOT AVAILABLE, BUT THAT'S 11.
WHAT WE HAVE THE CALL, WE HAVE THE RATING CALLS.
BUT THIS IS, BUT THERE'S A SECOND ONE.
THERE'S GONNA BE A MOODY'S CALL.
I, LET ME GET THE TIME, SO I WOULDN'T COMMIT TO A YEAR.
WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO FIGURE THAT OUT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION RIGHT NOW.
YOU ONE MY, UH, I'M JUST THROWING OUT SOMETHING.
UH, THEY'RE HAVING THE, WE, WE HAVE THE VETERAN'S DAY, YOU KNOW, UH, ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE ON THE 11TH.
AND I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE IF THEY HAD A RIBBON CUTTING, UH, RIGHT AFTER, BECAUSE EVERYBODY ON THE TOWN BOARD'S GONNA BE, UM, THAT'S INTERESTING.
YOU WANT ME TO ASK THEM? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.
NOW WE HAVE THE AGENDA REVIEW.
I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY WHAT? I'M SORRY.
DID YOU SAY WHAT DAY YOU WERE GONNA CHANGE TO, TO, FROM THE 14TH TO THE 11TH? THE 11TH POTENTIAL DAY, WHICH IS VETERANS' DAY.
UH, WE HAD, UM, THE CONTRACT WAS SUSTAINABLE.
WESTCHESTER ENDS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, OCTOBER 31ST, AND THEN IT, AND THEN IT, IT, WE HAVE TO SORT OF, UH, YEAH, WE AGREED THAT WE'RE GOING TO ASSESS, RE RE RENEW IT.
BUT WE WERE GONNA, I INVITED DAN WALSH, UH, RIGHT.
TO ATTEND THE MEETING, MEETING TOMORROW.
UM, AND TO MAKE A HALF HOUR PRESENTATION, YOU KNOW, OR IT COULD BE 15 MINUTES OR WHATEVER.
BUT THIS WAY, AT LEAST, UM, UH, THERE'S A PRESENTATION AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
SO COULD WE START WITH, UM, UH, SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSING WESTCHESTER POWER AND, YOU KNOW, WE COULD GIVE THEM, I MEAN, IF WE, IF IT'S EVEN A HALF HOUR OR SOMETHING, I THINK THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE.
OR WE COULD START THE MEETING EARLIER.
UM, NO, BECAUSE WE, WE ARE NOTICE GONNA BE DOING SOME, WELL, ALSO BECAUSE WE, JOY AND I WILL BE JOINING GARRETT TO LOOK AT TOMORROW YEAH.
SO IT MIGHT, SO LET'S DO IT SEVEN 30 AND JUST PUT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER ON, DO YOU JUST WANNA PUT IT ON THEIR PRESENTATIONS? YEAH.
AND MAKE THE FIRST ITEM AFTER ALL CALL.
AND IT, AND IT COULD BE, UH, SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER, UH, UH, CONTRACT WITH WESTCHESTER POWER, UM, YOU KNOW, UPDATE.
AND THEN WE COULD CREATE LIKE A, YOU KNOW, LAST TERRANCE OR JANELLE TO CREATE A YOUTUBE, AND THEN WE COULD PUBLICIZE THEIR PRESENTATION.
UM, SO OUR REVIEW, YEAH, MAYBE, YEAH.
REVIEW OF THERE, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT CONTRACT, UM, THE RATES AND EVERYTHING, AND PAUL, BUT THEY'RE GONNA PRESENT, THEY'RE JUST GONNA JUST TELL US WHAT THE RATES ARE.
WE'VE ALREADY APPROVED IT, SO, NO, I KNOW.
PRO PROGRAM PRE, THAT'S BETTER.
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PLEASE HOLD OVER TB THREE.WE THOUGHT THAT CONTRACT WAS IN FINAL FORM.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SOME MINOR CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE MADE, AND WE WANNA GIVE THE PROPER NOTICE TO THE RESIDENTS TO HAVE A FULL AND COMPLETE PROPOSED DRAFT, UH, POSTED TO THE WEBSITE BEFORE VOTING.
UM, SO I'D RESPECTFULLY REQUEST IF WE CAN DECIDE TO HOLD THAT ONE OVER UNTIL THE NOVEMBER 13TH MEETING.
BECAUSE THEY'VE WAITED SO LONG AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT.
RIGHT? I'M JUST, UH, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER MOMENT OF SILENCE, UM, OH YES.
FOR, FOR, UH, THE, THE POLICE.
CHIEF POWELL HAD JUST SENT US.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT WALTER MICHAEL CORBETT? YEAH, THAT'S RIGHT.
SO JOAN WILL DRAFT SOMETHING FOR THAT, SIR.
PAUL, WHAT? KRISTA WILL DRAFT A FEW LINES ABOUT THAT FOR THE, UM, FOR YOU SPEAK FOR YOU SAY, YEAH.
OR ACTUALLY, UM, MAYBE THE CHIEF.
COULD WE, DIDN'T HE SEND US, UH, HE DID SOMETHING.
SHE CAN JUST FORMAT IT FOR YOU SO THAT YOU CAN, RIGHT.
OR MAYBE JOAN COULD JUST TAKE WHAT, WHAT, I THINK I SENT IT TO HER, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE LAST WEEK.
I'LL REFORWARD IT IN THE MORNING.
CAN I MAKE ANOTHER SUGGESTION? THIS IS A, I'M SORT OF THINKING WE, THERE'S SOME STREET, UH, THAT ARE BEING CLOSED ON HALLOWEEN.
AND I'M WONDERING IF MAYBE UNDER PRESENTATIONS WE COULD HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE H HALLOWEEN EVENTS, BECAUSE THERE'S CLOSURES.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT WANT TO SEND THEIR KIDS, UM, LET'S SAY JOYCE ROAD.
THEY, THEY DO A REALLY NICE JOB, YOU KNOW, IT'S A GOOD IDEA.
THE, ONE OF THE BEST HALLOWEEN, UM, EFFORT INITIATIVES IS AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
IT'S, THERE'S NOTHING BETTER ANYWHERE IN AMERICA.
SO IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S REALLY THE, YEAH.
THEY HAVE SOME SCARY STUFF THERE AND LOTS OF GOOD FOOD.
OR AT LEAST IT TASTES GOOD, DOESN'T MEAN IT'S GOOD FOR YOU.
JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, YOU WANT ME TO PRESENT THAT AS YEAH, IF YOU WANT, OF COURSE.
I JUST GO THROUGH LIKE, YOU COULD EVEN JUST SAY, WE COULD PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE AND WE COULD SAY, THESE ARE THE EVENTS.
UM, YOU COULD, YOU COULD START FRIDAY HERE.
BUT MAYBE JUST SAY, THESE ARE THE STREETS AND THESE ARE THE DATES.
SO IT COULD SAY, FRIDAY AND TIME, YOU COULD DO THIS SATURDAY, YOU COULD DO THIS SUNDAY, YOU COULD DO THAT.
AND IT'S ALSO GOOD BECAUSE THE PARENTS WHO HAVE KIDS, THEY MAY NOT WANT THE KIDS TO JUST RING DOORBELLS.
IT'S OKAY TO RING DOORBELLS IN HALLOWEEN.
SO NOW WE, WE'RE GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION.
LET'S, LET'S FINISH GOING THROUGH, YEAH.
DO WE NEED, DO WE NEED ANY MORE DETAIL ON CR ONE OR ARE WE GOOD WITH THAT? NO.
WELL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY DO ANNUALLY.
I JUST WANNA, AND IT'S PROBABLY COMPARABLE.
I THINK WITH THE, UM, WE'RE GOOD WITH THE AGENDA.
THOSE CORRECTIONS WILL BE MADE.
MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF CONDUCTING INTERVIEWS, PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON
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VARIOUS MATTERS.