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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD AGENDA WEDNESDAY, November 20, 2024 – 7:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ]
GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.WELCOME TO THE NOVEMBER 20TH, 24 MEETING OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG PLANNING BOARD, MR. BRITTON.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW YOUR EXACT TITLE CORRECTLY.
UH, NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT JOHAN SNAGS AND AISHA SPARKS ARE NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
NOW, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO REGULARLY WATCH OUR PROGRAM, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT AARON SCHMIDT IS NOT SITTING HERE, BUT MATTHEW BRITTON IS WHO IS MOVING UP IN THE WORLD OF PLANNING AND IS GOING TO BE HOSTING THIS MEETING.
YOUR EXACT TITLE MATT IS PLANNER.
ALRIGHT, WE HAVE MATT, IS YOUR JOB GOING TO DEPEND ON HOW YOU HANDLE THIS MEETING? UH, I'LL LET AARON DECIDE THAT
I BELIEVE WE HAVE, OH, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THE NEW AGENDA.
I WILL SOME OLD BUSINESS AND SOME, UM, NEW BUSINESS.
BUT FIRST, LET'S, UH, TALK ABOUT THE MINUTES.
WERE THERE ANY COMMENTS ON THE MINUTES FROM THE LAST MEETING? IN THE SILENT INTERIM, I WILL NOTE THAT I DID HAVE A COMMENT ON PAGE FOUR.
THE LAST BIG PARAGRAPH, JUST TO CLARIFY MY COMMENTS.
UM, I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT WORDING THAT I PASSED ON, BUT RIGHT NOW IT SAYS ACTING CHAIRPERSON.
HEY, OPINED THAT SHIFTING THE APPROVED RESTAURANT LOCATIONS WITHIN THE SHOPPING CENTER WOULD NOT RESULT IN TRAFFIC OR PARKING ISSUES.
I BELIEVE I SAID, GIVEN THE INFORMATION FROM MR. CANNING AND MY OWN PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, I DID NOT BELIEVE THERE WOULD BE, UM, TRAFFIC OR PARKING ISSUES.
ANYONE ELSE? MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS AMENDED? SO MOVED.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? THEN THAT PASSES.
BRIT, WOULD YOU PLEASE TAKE US THROUGH THE CORRESPONDENCE? UH, SURE.
ACTUALLY, FOR THIS PIECE OF CORRESPONDENCE, I AM GOING TO TURN BACK TO MR. SCHMIDT, UH, FOR THE PLANNING BOARD LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE 2025 RAISES GRANT PROGRAM APPLICATION.
UH, HE IS MORE FAMILIAR WITH IT.
SO GOOD EVENING, UH, CHAIRPERSON HAY, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD FOR THE RECORD.
AARON SCHMIDT, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, HERE THIS EVENING TO DISCUSS BRIEFLY, UH, A REQUEST BY TOWN STAFF, SPECIFICALLY COMMISSIONER QUE FOR THE PLANNING BOARD'S SUPPORT IN CONNECTION WITH THE TOWN'S 2025 RAISE GRANT PROGRAM COMPLICATION.
UM, WE DID REVIEW THIS INITIALLY WITH ACTING CHAIRPERSON A AS WELL AS VICE CHAIRPERSON, MS. DAVIS.
AND, UH, WE WERE HOPING FOR THE PLANNING BOARD SUPPORT THIS EVENING.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, PREVIOUSLY SUPPORTED THE TOWN'S 2024 APPLICATION.
THE TOWN DID APPLY AT THAT TIME THOUGH WE WERE UNSUCCESSFUL, UH, IN OUR APPLICATION TO THE NEW YORK STATE DOT FOR $1.6 MILLION FOR DESIGN FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH A 2.3 MILE SPAN OF ROUTE ONE 19 FROM BROADWAY IN THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN TO THE NORTH SOUTH COUNTY TRAILWAY IN THE VILLAGE OF ELER, SEEKING TO HAVE THE CORRIDOR REDESIGNED TO INCORPORATE A BIKE PATH TO CONNECT THE MARIO CUOMO BRIDGE PATH TO THE EMPIRE STATE TRAIL.
AND I CAN SHOW, UH, JUST A QUICK IMAGE OF THAT.
AND WHILE YOU'RE DOING THAT, AARON, THIS IS THE EXACT SAME REQUEST, JUST IN A DIFFERENT GRANT, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.
SO, UH, THIS GRANT PERIOD WAS OPEN FOR THIS YEAR AND, UM, THOUGH WE WERE DENIED, UH, AND WERE UNSUCCESSFUL LAST YEAR, UH, WE DID GET SOME GREAT FEEDBACK ON VARIOUS POINTS WITHIN THAT APPLICATION.
AND WE FEEL WE'RE WELL EQUIPPED TO OBTAIN THIS GRANT FUNDING, UM, THIS FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THIS 2025 APPLICATION.
SO I HAVE A GRAPHIC UP ON THE SCREEN.
IS EVERYONE SEEING THIS? MM-HMM.
AND THIS WAS CIRCULATED TO THE BOARD AS WELL.
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UH, STRETCH IS RIGHT FROM THIS BLUE DOT ROUGHLY, WHICH IS THE EXTENSION OF THE MARIO CUOMO SHARED USE PATH, UH, ACROSS ONE 19 OR WHITE PLAINS ROAD, 2.3 MILES TO CONNECT TO THE NORTH SOUTH COUNTY TRAILWAY.AND, UH, AS MENTIONED TO, UM, INCORPORATE A BIKE PATH ALONG THAT ROUTE.
UM, AS MENTIONED, THERE'S NEW AND SIMILAR FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE 2025 APPLICATION, WHICH WAS VERY RECENTLY ANNOUNCED.
UM, THEREFORE COMMISSIONER MCCAIN CIRCULATED A DRAFT LETTER, WHICH WAS SENT OUT TO ALL PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS AND IS RESPECTFULLY REQUESTING THE PLANNING BOARD'S CONTINUED SUPPORT WITH A NEW UPDATED LETTER.
UH, THE TOWN'S 2025 APPLICATION WILL BE SIMILAR IN SCOPE AND IMPROVED BASED ON THAT FEEDBACK I MENTIONED FROM THE US DOT ON OUR PRIOR APPLICATION.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
UM, IS THAT, IS THAT, HOW MUCH IS THE, HOW MUCH IS THE GRANT? HOW MUCH IS THE REQUESTED GRANT? $1.6 MILLION.
AND THAT'S JUST FOR DESIGN, ROUGHLY? THAT'S JUST FOR DESIGN, NOT CONSTRUCTION.
UH, SO I DO BELIEVE IT INCLUDES, LEMME FIND OUT ONE SECOND.
THAT WAS A GREAT, UH, PRESENTATION, NOT ALLOW YOU CONTINUE TO
IT'S FOR A SOFT COST DESIGN, UM, SURVEYING, UH, COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS, EVERYTHING TO GET THAT PROJECT SHOVEL READY IS THE BEST WAY I WOULD DESCRIBE IT.
ANYTHING ELSE, MICHAEL? CORRECT? YEAH, THE FOLLOW UP TO THAT IS THAT, WHAT IS THE KIND OF, UH, ORDER OF MAGNITUDE COST FOR ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION AND HOW IT WILL BE FINANCED AND WHAT WOULD BE OUR ROLE IN IT.
I DON'T FEEL THAT ONE, I, I, I ANTICIPATE PROJECT WOULD BE ANYWHERE FROM, UH, 12 TO $18 MILLION.
AND WE WOULD BE THE LEAD AGENCY OR THERE IS A, SOME OTHER GROUP THAT, UH, SO THE PROJECT SPANS, UH, THREE JURISDICTIONS, TOWN OF GREENBURG VILLAGE AND ELMSFORD AND VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN.
UM, SO WE, WE, WE WILL OBTAIN, WE HAD THEIR SUPPORT, UH, LAST GRANT ROUND AND, UM, THEY'VE VERIFIED THAT BOTH COMMUNITIES HAVE VERIFIED THAT THEY, UH, ARE, ARE SUPPORTED THIS TIME.
UM, ALSO IT'S A NEW YORK STATE DOT ROAD.
SO WE HAVE A LETTER OF SUPPORT FROM, UH, THE NEW YORK STATE, DOT AND, UM, WESTCHESTER COUNTY, UM, YOU KNOW, HAS, HAS TREMENDOUS INTEREST DUE TO THE PROXIMITY OF THE, THE COUNTY TRAILWAY THERE.
UM, SO THEY'RE GONNA BE AN EXCELLENT PARTNER IN THIS PROCESS.
SO, UM, YEAH, THE, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WILL BE TAKING THE LEAD WITH, UH, GRANT IMPLEMENTATION, UM, OBTAINING THE CONSULTANT, BUT, UM, IT WILL BE HEAVILY AIDED BY THE PLANNING PARTNERS I JUST DESCRIBED WITH PUBLIC INPUT AS WELL.
ANYONE ELSE? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OBJECTION TO THE PLANNING BOARD SENDING THIS LETTER ON BEHALF OF, UH, THE GRANT APPLICATION? I THINK IT'S A GREAT, UH, GREAT IDEA AND GREAT, UH, UH, PLANNING PROJECTS THAT, UH, I WILL LIKE FEBRUARY.
DO WE NEED A VOTE ON THIS? IS THIS SOMETHING HAS TO BE OFFICIALLY VOTED? YES.
UM, THEN MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE SENDING THIS LETTER TO THE DOT SECOND OR THE APPLICATION RECIPIENT? OKAY, RIC AND DYLAN.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS THEN THAT PASSES.
UH, THE SECOND PIECE IS WHITE PLAINS FOUR 50 REALTY, FOUR 50 TO FOUR 60 TERRYTOWN ROAD.
UH, WE'VE HEARD THIS A COUPLE TIMES.
IT WAS READY FOR DECISION, BUT GOT A LITTLE DELAYED.
MATT, UH, YOU WANNA TAKE US UP TO DATE? SURE.
SO WE WERE READY FOR A DECISION, BUT THERE WERE SOME INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE PROVIDED SUBDIVISION PLAQUE COMPARED TO THE IMPROVEMENT PLANS THAT WERE GIVEN.
UH, MOST NOTABLY, THERE WAS NO EASEMENT, UH, PRESENTED BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS ON THE PLAT AND THE MEASUREMENTS FOR THE DISTANCE OF THE BUILDINGS TO THE SIDE YARD SETBACKS WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT.
WE REQUESTED THAT THESE DIFFERENCES BE RECONCILED AND THEY'VE STILL BEEN WORKING ON IT.
THE PLANNING BOARD HAS 60 DAYS TO ACT ON A SUBDIVISION FOLLOWING THE CLOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING, UH, WHICH IS AT THE END OF THIS MONTH.
SO TO, UH, THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED A 120
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DAY EXTENSION OF THE TIME FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO ISSUE A DECISION FOLLOWING THE CLOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH WOULD EXTEND IT THROUGH MAY, EXCUSE ME, UH, MAR THE END OF MARCH, I BELIEVE.UM, AND THAT SHOULD GIVE THEM ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE THE SUBDIVISION APPLY IN ORDER.
I SPOKEN WITH THE APPLICANT ON THIS, UH, TODAY ACTUALLY, AND THEY INDICATED THAT, UH, TOMORROW THEY SHOULD HAVE THE PLAT READY FOR THE DECEMBER 4TH MEETING, HOPEFULLY.
UM, SO, SO WHY DO THEY NEED ANOTHER 120 DAYS? UH, SO THE 120 DAYS IS BECAUSE, WELL, THEY NEED AN EXTENSION AND THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WITH UPCOMING SCHEDULING, UH, DIFFICULTIES IN JANUARY, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S ENOUGH TIME TO HAVE A PLANNING BOARD MEETING IF THEY ARE UNABLE TO GET A SUBDIVISION PLA IN TIME.
SO THOSE, THE DIFFERENCES IN THE SETBACKS, IF THEY'RE OFF AND THEY MIGHT BE REQUIRED TO GO BACK TO THE ZBA FOR CHANGE TO THE VARIANT.
SO IT'S, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY GET IT RIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THIS IS, AND IT TOOK THEM A CLOSE TO 60 DAYS TO FIGURE IT OUT.
ALL THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS JUST SURPRISED WHEN WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THEN BEFORE THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF, SO, SO WE IDENT JUST WANTED TO UNDERSTAND, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENED.
YEAH, SO WE IDENTIFIED THE DISCREPANCY, UH, SHORTLY AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH WHAT WAS SUBMITTED TO US, AND WE GOT BACK TO THEM ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, THEY HAD BEEN WORKING TO RECONCILE THAT.
AND THAT'S THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE FOR THE TIMELINE.
UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S A STRICTLY ADMINISTRATIVE, NOT REALLY ANY MAJOR GLITCH IN, UH, BUT DOESN'T MATTER.
AND I GUESS, WAS THERE ANY, WAS THERE ANY INSIGHT ON WHY THE, UH, THE EASEMENT WASN'T INCLUDED? I DO NOT KNOW WHY.
SO, UM, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO, UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS BEFOREHAND, APPROVE THE EXTENSION REQUEST FOR 120 DAYS.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? ALRIGHT, I GUESS THAT PASSES.
SO NOW WE'RE MOVING INTO, WE'RE DOING ALL THREE, RIGHT? YES, YES.
THERE WAS A QUESTION ABOUT ONE OF THEM, BUT IT'S BEEN RESOLVED THREE UH, CASES OF OLD BUSINESS WHERE DECISIONS ARE NEEDED, CORRECT? CORRECT.
FIRST IS PB 1709, WHICH IS PRIZER ONE 10 NHAN AVENUE ELMSFORD, WHICH WE'VE, UH, HEARD A COUPLE TIMES RECENTLY AND WAS ALSO PRESENTED A NUMBER OF YEARS IN THE PAST FOR A RE-APPROVAL OF A PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN AND LANDSCAPE BUFFER WAIVERS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UH, THE DRAFT DECISION HAS BEEN, BEEN PREPARED.
UH, THERE'S TWO CONDITIONS I WOULD CALL ATTENTION TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION TO, UH, CONDITION 4.9, WHICH READS, SHOULD THE VOLUME OF WORK NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES OR DEMAND FOR PARKING INCREASE, THE APPLICANT SHALL BE REQUIRED TO RETURN TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR FURTHER REVIEW OF POTENTIAL IMPACTS ASSOCIATED WITH AN INCREASED OFF STREET PARKING DEMAND.
UH, THIS IS INCLUDED DUE TO REPRESENTATIONS THAT THE CURRENT LEVEL OF WORK HAS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE ENOUGH PARKING FOR THE CURRENT LEVEL OF WORK AND IF THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THAT LEVEL OF WORK AND DEMAND FOR ALL STREET PARKING, THE SITE'S RATHER TIGHT.
SO THERE COULD BE FUTURE ISSUES.
UM, THE OTHER CONDITION IS, I I, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT WE DISCUSSED SOME LANGUAGE CHANGE TO THAT YEAH.
SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF SHOULD THE VOLUME OF WORK NUMBER OF EMPLOYEES OR DEMAND FOR PARKING INCREASE BEYOND THE CURRENT CAPACITY, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST ANY INCREASE, BUT IF IT GOES BEYOND WHAT THEY HAVE ON THE SITE, THEN WE NEED THEM TO COME IN.
BUT NOT IF THEY ADD ONE EMPLOYEE OR ONE CAR AND THERE'S STILL PLENTY OF ROOM.
BUT ALSO THE MECHANISM OF, UH, MONITORING IT, THAT SHOULD BE IN PLACE.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A SELF, UH, REPORTING OR SELF KIND OF TELLING US BECAUSE WE, WE WOULD NOT KNOW.
I MEAN, WE NOT REALLY CHECK FOR THAT ONE.
SO THEY SHOULD REALLY THREE YEARS OR TWO YEARS TIME THAT THEY SHOULD SUBMIT.
IF THERE IS AN INCREASE, WE WOULD RELY ON PEOPLE TO CALL IT IN.
SO IF THERE'S ISSUES ON THE ROADWAY, UH, YOU KNOW, AND IN THAT AREA YOU DO HAVE ISSUES WITH CARS PARKED ON THE STREET BECAUSE OF THE FLOODING AND, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE INDUSTRIAL NATURE OF THE AREA, UM, THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD RELY UPON PEOPLE TO CALL IT IN, BUT CAN YOU PUT TEETH INTO IT? WE'RE ALSO RELY
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ON OBSERVATIONS OF TOWN STAFF.SO IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE THERE'S BACK OUTS OR CARS BEING STORED ON THE ROAD OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, CREATING TRAFFIC OR CIRCULATION ISSUES BOTH FOR, UH, GENERAL MOVEMENT AND OR EMERGENCY SERVICES, THEN THAT'S GONNA BE BROUGHT TO THE, THE TOWN'S GONNA BE WELL AWARE OF THAT, THEN THERE'LL BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FUTURE REVIEW.
SO, UM, IF, IF NECESSARY, OBVIOUSLY, UM, WE WANTED TO HAVE THAT CONDITION IN THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE APPLICANT REPRESENTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD THAT, UM, IT'S A COMBINATION OF HEAVY DUTY TRUCK REPAIR AS WELL AS PASSENGER VEHICLE REPAIR OR LIKE TOTALS OR WRECKS, UH, THAT ARE TOWED IN ON A FLATBED.
IF THAT WERE TO CHANGE DOWN THE ROAD FOR ANY REASON AND STILL KIND OF BE UNDER THE SAME USE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE INCREASE IN ACTIVITY ON THE SITE DOESN'T CREATE ANY OFFSITE IMPACTS.
SO WE'LL BE, UM, WELL AWARE OF ANY CHANGES IN THAT REGARD.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE PRETTY OBVIOUS.
EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN REPRESENTED TO THE PLANNING BOARD IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT IS ABOUT BRINGING ALL THE SITE WORK INTO THE NEW BUILDING SO THAT THERE'S NOTHING OUTSIDE.
A FEW OF THE MEMBERS CAME, UH, AND CONDUCTED A SITE VISIT WITH ME AND OBSERVE THE CURRENT CONDITIONS AT THAT PROPERTY.
AND THE GOAL THAT THE APPLICANT SEEKS TO ACHIEVE IS TO BRING ALL THE BODY WORK, ALL THE STORAGE, EVERYTHING INTO THAT BUILDING.
SO IT'S GONNA BE QUITE CLEAR IF ANYTHING CHANGES.
WELL, AND I, AND I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE A, A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING WITH, WITH THE LANGUAGE THAT, THAT THOMAS JUST JUST ADDED, BUT IS IT CODIFIED ANYWHERE IN THE DECISION WHAT THE CURRENT STAFFING LEVEL IS SO THAT IF ALL OF US WIN THE LOTTO AND, AND WE'RE NOT HERE, WE KNOW WHERE THE, THE STARTING POINT IS? SO IT WAS DEFINITELY DISCUSSED AS PART OF THE PUBLIC HEARING.
THE APPLICANT SPOKE TO, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY THAT'S BEEN OPERATING, I BELIEVE FOR SEVERAL DECADES WITH CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EMPLOYEES AND DID SPEAK TO THAT.
I DO RECALL THAT IT'S BEING PART OF THE RECORD.
UM, IS IS THERE VALUE, I'M SORRY, IT'S ALSO IN THE SEEKER DOCUMENTATION AS WELL.
OKAY, LESLIE, BECAUSE WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS, IS WHAT WOULD TRIGGER HAVING TO GO BACK OUT THERE, HAVING TO, UH, RELOOK AT IT IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT, UM, AARON MENTIONED YOU CAN PHYSICALLY SEE.
AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT TYPE OF TIME PERIOD THIS CAN HAPPEN NEXT YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE GREAT FOR HIM.
IT CAN HAPPEN TWO YEARS FROM NOW, THREE YEARS FROM NOW.
SO TO PUT A TIME LIMIT ON IT, I'M NOT SURE HOW WE WOULD DO THAT.
AND IF YOU HAD ONE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEE WHO WAS REPLACED BY TWO PART-TIME EMPLOYEES, SO TECHNICALLY YOU HAVE ANOTHER EMPLOYEE, BUT RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE ART, THERE'S SO MANY PERMUTATIONS OF IT.
I THINK WHAT LESLIE SAID SHOULD HOLD CORRECT, BUT I THINK WHAT'S, WHAT'S, UH, UH, YOUR POINT IS THAT WE, WE SHOULD HAVE A BASE SOMEWHERE.
SO WE KNOW THAT IT WAS SAY 25 BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY CAME TO US PRIMARILY TO GET A RELIEF FOR 25 CAR PARKING, OFFSITE PARKING THAT WE, THE ZONING BOARD REQUIRED.
AND THAT'S THE REASON THEY CAME.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE A, I THINK I AGREE WITH YOU THAT MANY OF THEM MAY NOT BE HERE AND THEY DON'T REMEMBER IT WAS 25 CARS THAT THEY WANT A PARKING OFF STREET PARKING THAT WAS, BUT THEY, WE GAVE THEM A RELIEF ON THAT.
SO HOW MUCH IS THERE RIGHT NOW? AND, UH, IF THAT, IF WE COULD PUT IT INTO THERE, IT JUST ADD INTO IT THAT THE INTENTION IS IF IT EXCEEDS THE CURRENT CAPACITY.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE NUMBER IS STATED HERE, PARKING SPACES.
SO IF YOU WANT TO PUT IN THE NUMBER THERE, HOW MUCH THEY HAVE, AND WE GAVE THEM A 25 RELIEF.
SO HE SAYS, AND SO DID THE ZONING BOARD.
WE DIDN'T DO, HUH? THE ZONING BOARD GRANTED THAT VARIANCE.
I, I DON'T THINK THAT'S OFF THE TABLE.
I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
I MEAN, THEY COULD HIRE FOUR MORE EMPLOYEES WHO ALL COME BY BUS, SO THERE'S NO CAR.
THEY COULD END UP WITH FIVE ADDITIONAL VEHICLES, FIVE EMPLOYEES, FIVE MORE VEHICLES, BUT MAYBE THEY'LL MOVE IT INSIDE WHERE THEY REPAIR THE TRUCKS AND THEY'LL REPAIR FEWER, FEWER VEHICLES AT ONE TIME.
THE KEY ISSUE IS WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA START PARKING CARS IN THE STREET.
AND I THINK WHAT AARON TOLD US AND WHAT MATT TOLD US IS, YOU KNOW, SOONER OR LATER WE'RE GONNA FIND THAT OUT AND WE'RE GONNA DISCOVER THAT IT'S AN ISSUE.
THE NEIGHBORS WILL COMPLAIN, POLICE WILL COMPLAIN, WHATEVER.
SO I THINK WE SHOULD LEAVE IT AS IT IS.
UNDER STORMWATER MANAGEMENT, THE APPLICANT IS REQUIRED TO INSTALL, MAINTAIN A PRECAST CONCRETE SEDIMENT TANK ON SITE AS SHOWN ON THE PLANS ENTITLED SITE AND ZONING PLAN, UH, DATED
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MARCH 2ND, 2017, LAST REVISED OCTOBER 18TH, 2024.UH, IN ORDER TO COLLECT SEDIMENT, DEBRIS AND OTHER FLOATABLES PRIOR TO LEAVING THE SITE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS.
AND AT THE BEGINNING OF EACH CALENDAR YEAR, THE APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT DOCUMENTATIONS AT THE TOWN ENGINEER DEMONSTRATING THAT APPROPRIATE MAINTENANCE OF THIS STORMWATER QUALITY DEVICE HAS TAKEN PLACE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN ITS FUNCTIONALITY.
THIS IS A CONDITION THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL IN FROM 2017.
UH, IT WAS CARRIED OVER AND MODERNIZED FOR THIS DECISION.
MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, OKAY, WAIT, TWO VOTES, RIGHT? YES.
UH, ONE FOR THE AMENDED SITE FOR THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION AND ONE FOR, UH, LANDSCAPE BUFFER WAIVERS TO THE SOUTH SIDE AND TO THE REAR OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY.
ALRIGHT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO REAPPROVE THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED SITE PLAN AS AMENDED? AS AMENDED? THANK YOU.
VERY GOOD, LESLIE AND SECOND CORRE.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? ALRIGHT, THAT ONE PASSES.
UM, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER WAIVERS TO THE SOUTH, SOUTH AND REAR, REAR SOUTH MEETING FACING THE STREET, RIGHT? I DUNNO.
SOUTH WOULD BE THE RIGHT HAND SIDE WHERE THE BUILDING GOES.
UH, ALMOST ALL THE WAY UP TO THAT SIDE PROPERTY LINE.
THE REAR IS THE EASTERLY SIDE.
SO THE, THE BUILDING, OR I'M SORRY, THE SITE FACES THE WEST, IF THAT MAKES SENSE, BUT THAT, WHERE IS THE LEFT, WHERE THE EXISTING BUILDING IS? WHERE TO THE RIGHT IS THE SOUTH WHERE THE NEW BUILDING WILL BE SITUATED.
SO THEY DON'T, I CAN SHOW THE PLANS THAT THE NO, NO, THAT'S FINE.
UH, BUT DO THE, UH, SO THE, THEY MEET THE FRONT YARD LANDSCAPING BUFFER.
THAT WAS MY QUESTION ACTUALLY.
WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? SORRY, I DIDN'T GET THAT.
DO THEY ASKING FOR THE SOUTH AND REAR, WHAT ABOUT THE FRONT? IT IS ALREADY GRANTED OR THEY DON'T NEED A WAIVER FOR THE OTHER TWO SIDES, IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.
FOR THE FRONT SIDE AND THE NORTH SIDE.
THE FRONT AND THE NORTH SIDE, I SHOULD SAY THEY DO NOT REQUIRE THE WAIVERS THAT WAS REVIEWED BY A BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE.
SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, THE TWO WAIVERS? SO MOVED.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? ALRIGHT, THAT PASSES.
MOVING ON TO PB 2325, ANOTHER ONE WE'VE SEEN A COUPLE TIMES.
PRESTA, GIACOMO PERKINS SEVEN AND EIGHT RITA LANE.
THIS IS, UH, TO CONSIDER A DECISION OF A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.
SO I'LL STEP OUT FOR A FEW MOMENTS SINCE I'M CONFLICTED OUT AND, UM, YOU'RE SO CONFLICTED.
MATT, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFO YOU WANT TO IMPART ON THIS ONE? SURE.
THIS IS A, THERE'S ONLY ONE VOTE, UH, TO BE CONSIDERED FOR PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION, UH, FOR THE SLOT LINE ADJUSTMENT.
UH, YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT THE DRAWINGS FOR THE, THE INFORMATION FOR THE SUBDIVISION DRAWINGS IS IN RED.
WE WERE WAITING FOR THE SUBDIVISION PLAT THAT WAS SUBMITTED TONIGHT.
UH, SO WE WILL UPDATE WITH THAT, UH, CORRECTED INFORMATION.
UH, THERE'S ONLY ONE CONDITION THAT I DRAW THE BOARD'S ATTENTION TO, WHICH IS CONDITION 4.1, WHICH STATES THAT PRIOR TO APPLYING FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, THE APPLICANT SPECIFICALLY MR. PRESS GIACOMO, SHALL ENSURE THAT THE DRIVEWAY OF EIGHT RITA LANE IS LEGALLY CONFORMING TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR.
THAT'S THE VARIANCE THAT WAS NOT GRANTED.
YEAH, THE EXTRA PARKING AREA THAT HAD TO BE REMOVED.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, MAY I HAVE A MOTION TO, UM, APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPLICATION AS AMENDED? AS AMENDED? THANK YOU.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? IT PASSES.
UH, ANOTHER ONE WE'VE SEEN A FEW TIMES, PB 24 0 8, CROSSROAD SHOPPING CENTER, 360 7 4 59
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TERRYTOWN ROAD, AN AMENDED PLANNING BOARD SHARED PARKING REDUCTION.SO THIS IS ONE VOTE, CORRECT? SO, SO THIS IS ONE VOTE.
UH, WE WERE CONTACTED BY THE APPLICANT, UH, REQUESTING SOME CHANGES TO THE LANGUAGE OF THE DRAFT APPROVAL, WHICH IS IN FRONT OF YOU SPECIFICALLY TO THE THIRD PARAGRAPH.
UH, THE APPLICANT REPRESENTED THAT THEY'RE CONCERNED WITH, UH, POTENTIAL VAGUENESS AND OPEN-ENDEDNESS.
UH, SO WE'VE PROPOSED A MODIFIED LANGUAGE, UM, WHICH I'LL LET THE APPLICANT SPEAK TO THEIR REASONING FOR THE REQUEST FOR ADJUSTED LANGUAGE.
DO YOU WANNA READ IT INTO THE RECORD? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO SAY THERE'S A COUPLE MINOR PHRASES STILL IN IT THAT WE WANTED TO IRON OUT.
UM, SO I WAS GONNA ASK TO POSTPONE THE VOTE TONIGHT SO WE GET THOSE LAST FEW TEXT CENTER NOW WITH, WITH TOWN STAFF AND HAVE THE BOARD VOTE IN TWO WEEKS.
UM, JUST 'CAUSE THERE WASN'T QUITE ENOUGH TIME, UH, TO GO BACK AND FORTH ON, ON THE, ON THE DIFFERENT ITERATIONS.
I, I PREFER THAT AS WELL SINCE WE'D BE HEARING IT FOR THE FIRST TIME AND TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS AND WHAT'S CHANGING.
SO IF YOU'RE FINE WITH THAT, I THINK WE'RE FINE WITH THAT, AREN'T WE? ANYONE? NOT IF THE APPLICANT WANTS IT, SURE.
SO DECEMBER 4TH, TYPICALLY WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO DELAY AN APPLICANT, BUT IF, UM, THAT'S YOUR WISH.
YEAH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S, AND YOU KNOW, THE CLIENT AND YOU GUYS THAT EVERYONE'S HAPPY WITH IT, WITH THE VERBIAGE BEFORE WE TAKE IT TO THE VOTE.
SO I THINK WE'RE REALLY CLOSE.
UM, BUT WE JUST RAN TIME TODAY, I THINK.
AND, UH, OF COURSE WE'LL DISTRIBUTE TO THE BOARD WHAT LANGUAGE WE, UH, WE, WE, US AND THE APPLICANT AGREE UPON AND SEND IT TO THE BOARD FOR THEIR, YOUR REVIEW PRIOR TO DECEMBER 4TH.
OR IS IT TWO? TWO OR THREE? I DON'T KNOW.
ALRIGHT, SO THAT'S THE END OF OLD BUSINESS.
SO THERE IS NO WORK TO BE TAKEN, NO ADJOURNED ON APPLICANT'S REQUEST.
CAN YOU TEXT AMANDA TO LET HER KNOW SHE CAN OPEN HER EARS AGAIN? HMM.
WAIT, DID WE DO THAT? YEAH, YOU GOOD? YOU'RE GOOD.
SHOULD GET DONE BY EIGHT O'CLOCK.
OH, WE, WE, FOUR 50 WAS THE EXTENSION, RIGHT? OH, YEAH.
WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR MS. MAGANA, UM, IT, I'LL ANNOUNCE THIS AS PB 24 22 LEVY 1 34 EUCLID AVENUE POST OFFICE.
PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLANNING BOARD, STEEP SLOPE PERMIT, WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT AND TREE REMOVAL PERMIT BEING CONSIDERED.
AT THIS POINT THOUGH, UM, THE ACTION WOULD BE TO DECLARE INTENT TO BE LEAD AGENCY IF WE SO DESIRE? YES.
SO THERE ARE A FEW VARIANCES THAT ARE NECESSARY AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION, UM, MOMENT RELATED TO, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE, SETBACK OF, UH, PATIO TO REAR PROPERTY LINE, AND, UH, A SUBDIVISION TO CREATE A NON-CONFORMING LOT, UH, FOR THE LOT WITH AN EXISTING HOME.
UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, I'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE APPLICANT.
THEY'RE WORKING TO SEE IF THEY CAN REDUCE SOME OF THOSE VARIANCES, SPECIFICALLY THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE.
BUT AT THIS TIME, UH, BASED ON THE BUILDING INSPECTORS MOST RECENT REVIEW, THESE VARIANCES ARE NEEDED.
SO IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO CONSIDER DECLARING ITS INTENT TO SERVE AS LEAD AGENCY FOR SEEKER REVIEW OF THIS PROJECT.
FIRST, I JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE FAMILY THAT OWNS THIS HOME.
MY SON PLAYED LITTLE LEAGUE WITH ONE OF THEIR KID 14 YEARS AGO, AND THAT'S ABOUT THE EXTENT OF MY RELATIONSHIP WITH 'EM.
BUT I, I AM AWARE OF, OF WHO THEY ARE AND THEIR KIDS WENT TO SCHOOL TOGETHER.
IF ANYONE THINKS I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF, I'M WILLING TO, I DON'T BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE A CONFLICT.
UM, I I HAVE A THRESHOLD QUESTION BEFORE WE START.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO ANSWER IT OR MATT, MATT, BUT THE DESCRIPTION IN THE AGENDA SAYS, YOU KNOW, A STEEP SOIL PERMIT IS A DISTURBANCE OF 545 SQUARE FEET OF 12 AND SO MANY DISTURBANCE, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH DISTURBANCE.
BUT THEN I'M READING THE APPLICANT'S LETTER AND HE SAYS, THE
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OWNERS INTEND AT THIS TIME TO NOT MAKE ANY IMPROVEMENTS OF THE WESTERLY LOT, BUT AT SOME FUTURE DATE, THE OWNERS OF THEIR SUCCESSORS AND INTEREST MAY SEEK SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME.UM, THAT INDICATES HE KNEW THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA DO ANY DISTURBANCE.
SO AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS UNDER CHAPTER TWO 50, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED IS A SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT PLAN.
AND FOR THERE TO BE AN IMPROVEMENT PLAN, THERE HAS TO BE IMPROVEMENTS PROPOSED AND FOR THE BOARD TO CONDUCT A SECRET REVIEW THAT HAS EXAMINED THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OF WHAT MAY BE BUILT THERE.
THIS BEING A R 10 DISTRICT, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
SO THE BOARD HAS TO REVIEW A CONCEPTUAL PLAN FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME THAT MAY BE BUILT THERE IN THE FUTURE.
UH, GIVEN THAT THIS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPOSED LOT IS WITHIN THE 100 FOOT WETLAND BUFFER AREA, THESE LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE THAT THEY'RE PROPOSED, UH, WILL ALSO BECOME BINDING.
AND, UH, SHOULD THIS PROJECT PROGRESS AND GAIN ITS APPROVAL, ANY FUTURE HOME WOULD HAVE TO BE BUILT WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THOSE LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE.
OTHERWISE, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR SUBSEQUENT APPROVAL.
NOW, IF THIS PLAN IS APPROVED, MM-HMM,
THAT'S WHY YOUR LETTER CONFUSED ME A LITTLE BIT.
I HAVE A QUESTION AS YOU RELATED.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE SOME OF THE, UH, SORT OF ENCROACHMENT THAT THEY REQUIRE TO BE REMOVED OR MODIFIED, SO THEY WILL DO IT BEFORE WE GIVE THEM A APPROVAL OF THE SUBDIVISION OR AFTER.
SO, UH, SO MOST LIKELY IT WOULD BE A CONDITION OF PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PRIOR TO COMING BACK FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVALS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THE ENCROACHMENTS.
SO IN, IN THAT PERIOD BETWEEN, UH, GAINING PRELIMINARY APPROVAL AND APPLYING FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, THEY WOULD REMOVE THE ENCROACHMENTS TO MAKE THAT LOT LEGAL IN THE SAME WAY.
WELL DO WE, SHOULD WE HEAR THE APPLICATION FIRST? WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL? SURE.
THANK YOU MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
MY NAME IS JACOB AMIR FROM Z STEINMAN.
I'M PLEASED TO BE HERE BEFORE YOUR BOARD THIS EVENING.
AND WITH ME IS THE APPLICANT, UH, JARED LEVY, UH, TO THE FAR RIGHT.
AND THEN WITH ME IS MICHAEL STEIN HUDSON ENGINEERING.
AND MR. STEIN IS GONNA BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THE STEEP SLOPES AND THE REDUCTION IN, IN THOSE, THOSE SORT OF SPECIFICATIONS.
UM, A AS, AS YOU HAD STARTED TO SAY, THIS IS A PROPOSED SUBDIVISION OF A SINGLE LOT INTO TWO RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
IT'S IN THE, UM, AT 1 34 EUCLID AVENUE.
UH, IT'S PRESENTLY A 22,984 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
UH, THE EXISTING HOME IS ABOUT 4,200 SQUARE FEET OR ROUGHLY JUST, JUST UNDER THERE.
WELL, THE TOP TWO FLOORS, NOT DIAMOND, NOT IN THE BASEMENT.
38, 3800 SQUARE FEET PLUS THE BASEMENT.
UM, WE ARE ENVISIONING HERE BASICALLY SPLITTING IT ROUGHLY DOWN, ROUGHLY DOWN THE MIDDLE WHERE THE EASTERLY SIDE WHERE WE'LL CALL IT, LOT ONE IN OUR SIDE PLAN WOULD BE 12,984 SQUARE FEET AS PROPOSED.
AND THE WESTERLY SIDE WOULD BE 10,008 SQUARE FEET, MEANING YOUR MINIMUM 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, REQUIREMENT.
UM, AS WAS SAID, WE ARE IN THE WETLAND BUFFER AND, UM, MICHAEL WILL TALK ABOUT, UH, SOME MITIGATION, SOME LANDSCAPING MITIGATION THAT WE'RE PROPOSING WITH THE APPLICATION.
AND, AND AS MENTIONED, UM, THERE ARE ENCROACHMENTS.
SO AS PART OF THE APPLICATION WE HAD ANTICIPATED AND ALREADY TO REMOVE THOSE ENCROACHMENTS BEFORE GAINING FINAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL, THAT WAS, THAT'S PART OF THE REASON IS BASICALLY IN LAYMAN'S TERMS TO CLEAN ALL THIS UP AS PART OF THE, UM, AS PART OF THE SUBDIVISION.
UH, WE APPEARED BEFORE THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE AT IT'S NOVEMBER 14TH MEETING RECEIVED RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THAT COMMITTEE AND SOME REQUESTS TO BE, TO BE INCORPORATED, INCLUDING SHOWING CERTAIN, UM, NATIVE PLANTS ON THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, NATIVE NATIVE PLANTS ON THE LANDSCAPING PLAN, WHICH I THINK ARE SHOWN, UH, TO PROVIDE FOR FIVE YEAR MONITORING ON AND OFFSITE PLANTINGS, WHICH IS, WHICH CERTAINLY WILL BE ADDED IF NOT ALREADY DONE.
THERE WAS ONE RELATIVELY MINOR POINT.
UH, THE SITE PLAN DID NOT INCLUDE A PATH
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FROM THE, UM, STREET TO THE FRONT OF THE HOME BECAUSE WE'RE REMOVING A PORTION OF THE DRIVEWAY.SO, UM, TODAY OUR, UH, DESIGN, UH, MANAGER, ELIA, LAL DESIGNS CREATED AN A PATH BASICALLY TO GET FROM, UM, GARAGE TO FRONT HOME TO MEET THAT.
AND I THINK WE HAVE SITE PLAN OR WILL SUBMIT SITE PLAN.
UM, THERE WAS ALSO A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CAC TO REPLACE THE CULTECH WITH A RAIN GARDEN AND TO PROVIDE FOR A 50 YEAR STORM.
AND I'M GONNA LET MICHAEL ADDRESS THOSE, UH, THOSE TECHNICAL ISSUES, UM, WITH RESPECT.
UM, LASTLY ON, ON MY STAGE TO THE VARIANCES, WE DID RECEIVE THE MEMO FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT POINTING OUT THREE VARIANCES.
I THINK WHEN WE UPDATE THE SITE PLAN AND RECALCULATE, UM, WE'RE GOING TO MEET THE MAXIMUM IMPERVIOUS SURFACE COVERAGE AND, UM, I THINK WE'LL BE ABLE TO MEET THE, THE PATIO LEGALIZATION.
WE'RE GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA REVISE THE CYCL LINE IN ORDER TO POTENTIALLY REMOVE THOSE VARIANCE REQUIREMENTS.
WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE THIS AS SEAMLESS AS POSSIBLE AS PART OF THE CLEANUP OF THIS WHOLE, UH, WHOLE PROPERTY.
UH, AND AS TO LOT TWO, THE NEW WESTERN LOT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UM, THE MINIMUM SETBACK FROM THE, FROM THE, UH, FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE TO THE DRIVEWAY, UM, PERMITTED 12 FEET.
I THOUGHT THAT 7.1 IS, IS INCORRECT.
I THOUGHT WE HAD PROPOSED A, A GREATER NUMBER, BUT WE CAN MOVE THE DRIVEWAY.
SO I THINK THAT'S EASILY LIMITED.
SO ON THE PLANS, UH, INITIALLY SUBMITTED AND SENT TO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, IT DID SAY 7.1, BUT RECENTLY SUBMITTED PLANS HAVE ADJUSTED THE DRIVEWAY TO ELIMINATE THAT VARIANCE.
SO OVERALL WE ARE, WE ARE INCORPORATING ALL OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THE TOWN AND VARIOUS TOWN PERSONNEL IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS AS COMPLETE ON THE SECOND GO AROUND.
SO WE DON'T HAVE REPEAT ISSUES.
UM, WE WANT TO ADDRESS ALL THOSE HEAD ON.
UM, WE RECEIVE COMMENTS FROM, UH, MR. BRITTON REGARDING CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF THE SITE PLAN THAT WE'RE, WE, WE WILL INCORPORATE.
THEY'RE ALREADY EITHER IN THE PLAN OR CONTEMPLATED, UH, REMOVING OF THE ENCROACHMENTS, UH, ADDRESSING THE CONCRETE PATIO AROUND THE HOT TUB, UM, THE DIMENSIONS OF THE DRIVEWAY, ALL THOSE THINGS WE ARE LOOKING AT.
AND IN OUR REVISED SITE PLAN TO YOU, WE ARE HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL HAVE ADDRESSED ALL OF THOSE POINTS.
AND, UH, LET ME, LET ME, IF I CAN SIT DOWN, TURN IT OVER TO MICHAEL, TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THE MITIGATION AND OTHER ELEMENTS.
IS THERE SOME PLAN THAT CAN BE PUT UP ON THE SCREEN? ALL THE THINGS THAT HE EXPLAINED? I THINK, YEAH, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE A VISUAL TO GO ALONG WITH THE NARRATIVE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO.
IF NOT, UM, AB ABDULAZIZ, I CAN DO THAT.
ALSO NECESSARY, IF NOT ABDULAZIZ FROM MY OFFICE IS LOGGED IN VIA ZOOM, SO HE CAN POST THAT UP AS WELL.
YEAH, IF HE CAN DO THAT, THAT'D BE GREAT.
IF NOT, WE CAN SHARE WHO'S, WHO'S TAKING ON.
MY NAME IS MICHAEL STEIN, UH, PRESIDENT OF HUDSON ENGINEERING ENGINEERS OF RECORD FOR THE PROJECT.
UM, AS MR. RAMIR HAD GONE THROUGH, WE HAD PREPARED A STORMWATER MITIGATION PLAN FOR THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS.
CAN CAN YOU JUST BASICALLY YEP.
DO AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT IT IS WE'RE LOOKING AT, UH, SURE.
SO, AND, AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA GO THROUGH.
SO WE DID A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR, UH, THE PROPOSED, THE PROPOSED LOT THAT, UM, IS BEING CREATED FOR THE NEW HOUSE AND FOR THE, UH, NEW DRIVEWAY AND PATIO AREA.
UH, WE HAD DONE FIELD TESTING ON THE SITE.
UH, AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE'S, THERE'S WETLANDS, UH, LOCATED JUST OFF SITE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THE MAJORITY OF THE SITE IS LOCATED WITHIN THE A HUNDRED FOOT WETLAND BUFFER.
UH, SO THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE, ARE BEING, UH, PROPOSED, UH, WILL INCLUDE NOT ONLY STORMWATER MITIGATION, BUT IT'S, UH, WETLANDS MITIGATION AND PLANTINGS AS WELL.
UM, FOR THE STORMWATER PLAN, WE HAVE ACTUALLY DESIGNED UP FOR THE, THE 50 YEAR STORM EVENT, UH, TO FULLY INFILTRATE, UH, ALL THE STORMWATER COMING FROM THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS, UH, FOR THE UP TO THE 50 YEAR STORM, THE WETLANDS MITIGATION.
AND SO FROM, UH, THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD RECEIVED FROM, UH, MR. BRI, UM, MR. BRITTON, UM, WE'VE GONE BACK AND WE'VE MADE REVISIONS.
I'VE PASSED ALONG COPIES OF THE PLANS FOR THAT, UH, JUST, JUST THIS EVENING.
UH, BUT WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER TO, TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PLAN WHERE NECESSARY.
UH, AS WAS MENTIONED THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE, ANY VARIANCES THAT MAY BE REQUIRED TO THE MAXIMUM EXTENT PRACTICABLE.
UM, LET ME JUST INTERRUPT FOR ONE SECOND.
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A LOT OF LINES ON THIS CHART.I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ALL ARE.
WE ARE TOLD IT'S ONE LOT DIVIDED INTO TWO AND I'M SEEING A WHOLE BUNCH OF SECTIONS THERE.
COULD YOU JUST EXPLAIN THAT ANYONE WATCHING AT HOME IS PROBABLY MYSTIFIED WHERE, RIGHT, WHERE THE, THE CURSOR IS, UH, HE'S HIGHLIGHTING THAT IS WHERE THE NEW LOT LINE IS GOING STRAIGHT BACK.
UH, THE NEW LOT WILL HAVE A LOT AREA OF, OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET OR JUST OVER 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
YEAH, ALMOST EXACTLY 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, THE, ALL THE IMPROVEMENTS ARE FOR THE, THE DWELLING ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE REQUIRED SETBACKS.
THE, THAT LOG IS VIOLATING RIGHT NOW.
THAT DASH LINE, THAT IS THE A HUNDRED FOOT WETLANDS BUFFER THAT ARCS THROUGH THE SITE THAT COMES RIGHT THROUGH.
UH, SO IT REALLY BASICALLY IS, WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO TRY TO BE OUTSIDE OF THAT AREA FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE.
BUT YOU HAVE A LOT OF DARK DIVISIONS THERE.
WHAT ARE ALL THOSE? UH, THE, THE DARKER DIVISIONS ARE BASICALLY, UH, LIMITS OF DISTURBANCE AND CONSTRUCTION FENCING AS WELL AS, UH, SILL FENCING, SEDIMENT EROSION CONTROL MEASURES TO PRO TO PREVENT ANY SELTER SEDIMENT FROM WASHING OFF THE SITE.
ESPECIALLY TOWARDS THE THE WETLANDS AREA.
WHAT, WHAT'S WHAT, THE RIGHT AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT, I SEE IT GOES BELOW BEYOND THE PROPERTY LINE? YEAH, THE PROPERTY.
THAT IS, THAT'S THE AREA THAT, UM, WAS BEING DISCUSSED, WHERE TO REMOVE AND, AND, UM, ALL THAT, THAT'S ALL MATERIALS TO BE TO BE REMOVED.
THERE WAS A HOT TUB LOCATED WITH A CONCRETE PAD THAT WAS LOCATED RIGHT IN THAT AREA.
THERE IS AN EXISTING BASKETBALL COURT JUST TO THE LEFT OF THAT, THAT'S COMING OUT AND BEING REMOVED.
AND THERE'S AN EXISTING VINYL SHED THAT'S, UH, IN THAT LOCATION TO BE REMOVED.
NO, GO TO THE PRIOR SLIDE WHERE YOU JUST WERE BEFORE AND THAT'S THE PORTION OF THE DRIVEWAY THAT'S, THAT'S PROPOSED TO BE REMOVED.
YEAH, THAT WHAT'S THAT DARK DOTTED SOLID LINE AT THE VERY BOTTOM? RIGHT.
THAT IS, SO WITH DOING THIS WORK IN THESE AREAS, WE ARE, WE HAVE A DISTURBANCE WITHIN THAT AREA THAT WE'RE IDENTIFYING.
SO THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THE DISTURBANCE IN ORDER TO REMOVE THOSE ITEMS, THE MATERIALS.
SO YOU WOULD ENCROACH WITH THE CONSTRUCTION FENCE TO REMOVE THE ITEMS OUTSIDE OF, OUTSIDE OF, YES.
SO VERY SO THAT'S PART OF YOUR PROPERTY? NO, THAT'S, THAT'S OFF PROPERTY.
YOU WOULD NEED TO GET THE PERMISSION OF THE PROPERTY.
AND WE CANNOT REQUIRE THAT BECAUSE IT'S NOT PROPERTY THAT'S THE SHEPHERD.
WELL, WHO, WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY THAT YOU'RE ENCROACHING ON? UM, THE PROPERTY ON THE LEFT IS NOW FORMERLY LM, S-R-E-L-L-C.
AND IT'S A CONSERVATION AREA AREA.
AND IS THAT A PRIVATE, ACTUALLY BOTH, THE, BOTH AREAS? THAT'S, THAT'S BOTH PART OF IT.
IS THAT A PRIVATE COMPANY THAT OWNS IT? UM, I DUNNO IF IT'S, I DUNNO IF IT'S A PRIVATE, IT'S, I BELIEVE IT IS.
WE COULD CHECK THE CONSERVATION EASEMENT, BUT TYPICAL IN THESE SITUATIONS, I DON'T THINK IT'LL BE AN ISSUE GAINING ACCESS TO REMOVE ENCOURAGEMENT.
WE NOT, WE'RE NOT PUSHING TO BUILD INTO IT.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS, UH, TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE.
COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE PLEASE AND GIVE YOUR NAME.
HI, I AM JARED LEVY, THE HOMEOWNER, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME PERSPECTIVE, ALL OF THAT IS JUST WOODS.
JUST WOODS THAT GO FOR ACRES AND ACRES AND ACRES.
IT USED TO BE THE CARVE ESTATE.
UM, SO THERE'S JUST, BUT BUT IT'S A CONSERVATION AREA NOW, RIGHT? UH, I WOULD SAY THAT, SORRY.
RIGHT PORTION OF IT IS NOT ALL OF IT.
THE LEFT, THE LEFT PORTION, THE SIDE, UH, THE LEFT PORTION IS THE CONSERVATION AREA.
YOU CAN SEE IT IDENTIFIED RIGHT THERE.
UM, SO I MEAN, WE WOULD NEED TO SECURE THE PERMISSION, BUT THESE WERE NOT LEGALLY ADDED TO THIS AREA, THESE, THIS MATERIAL.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING AT BASICALLY REMOVING THAT OUTSIDE.
LESLIE, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO, I WAS GONNA SAY IT'S EASIER TO SEE, TO SEE THAT PORTION OF IT, UM, ON LIKE A GOOGLE AERIAL AND YOU'RE ABLE TO SEE WHERE THE PROPERTY IS AND THAT THE REST, EVERYTHING AROUND IT IS JUST, UM, TREES.
SO IT WAS BUILT UP WITHOUT, UH, BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S PERMISSION? CORRECT.
SO HE'S GOING TO REMOVE OR, OR THE PERMISSION OF THE OWNER.
WELL, BUT THEY HAVEN'T THE PERMISSION TO BUILD ANYTHING, RIGHT? CORRECT.
BUT IT'LL BE REMOVED IF THEY MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
JUST, YEAH, JUST, JUST A LITTLE MORE PERSPECTIVE.
IT WAS, IT WAS BUILT AND INHERENTLY, BUT, SO THERE ARE TREES, THERE ARE ACRES AND ACRES OF TREES BEHIND, BUT THERE'S OPEN SPACE WHERE THAT COURT WAS AND BEYOND THAT IS THE TREE.
SO IF YOU ACTUALLY WALK ON THE SITE, IT'S AS IF YOU THINK YOU'RE WALKING ON THE PROPERTY.
HAVING NOW DECIDED TO OR ENGAGED IN THE IDEA OF, OF SPLITTING IT.
WE, WE THEN LOOKED AT IT AND SAID, OKAY, WE, THIS IS NOW ENCROACHING, WE'VE GOTTA, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO REMOVE IT.
SO THAT'S CAME UP THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
ONE OTHER THING I SHOULD ADD IS THAT BASICALLY AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT PROPERTY, IT'S A STEEP DROP OFF DOWN TO THE WETLANDS.
IT'S MAYBE 10, 15 FEET GET MORE.
UM, I KNOW, I KNOW AT LEAST ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE WHERE THAT NEW HOUSE IS
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GONNA BE, IT'S PRETTY STEEP.I DIDN'T REALLY LOOK TOO MUCH, YOU KNOW, TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
BUT I ASSUME THAT DROP OFF EXTENDS RIGHT ACROSS? NO, NO, IT, THE DROP OFF IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
AND THEN IT COMES UP AND IT'S FLAT ON THE RIGHT SIDE.
AND SO AS, AS PART OF THAT WORK DOES DROP OFF, UM, WE HAD ENCROACHED WITHIN THE, WE INITIALLY HAD ENCROACHED WITHIN THE STEEP SLOPE AREAS, APPROXIMATELY 500, UH, 45 SQUARE FEET.
UM, WE HAD GOTTEN A DENIAL LETTER FROM, FROM ENGINEERING.
WE HAD GONE BACK AND ACTUALLY MADE REVISIONS TO REDUCE THAT AREA TO BE BELOW 500 SQUARE FEET.
SO WE, WE DON'T BREACH THAT THRESHOLD.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S THE BOTTOM LEFT CORNER OF THE DISEASE.
WE CAN JUST HIGHLIGHT THAT CORNER.
SO, SO YOU'RE, UH, AMENDING YOUR STEEP SLOPE CLEARANCE FORM TO YES.
BE BELOW THE THRESHOLD? CORRECT.
WHEN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN ENG EMAILING WITH ENGINEERING TO, THAT'S THE GREEN HIGHLIGHTED AREA RIGHT THERE.
SO THAT'S OUR, THAT'S OUR ENCROACHMENT, UM, WITHIN THE STEEP SLOPE AREAS.
BUT AGAIN, THAT'S BEEN SUBSEQUENTLY REDUCED TO BE BELOW THE 500 SQUARE FOOT THRESHOLD.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT TO DATE IS KIND OF A GENERAL IDEA, BUT THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF MODIFICATIONS.
SO YES, IF WE DECLARE LEAD AGENCY THE NEXT TIME WE SEE IT, WE'RE GONNA SEE DIFFERENT PLANS THAT SHOULD HAVE LESS, LESS.
THEY'RE NOT, I MEAN, ADJUSTED PLANS.
I WOULDN'T SAY THEY'RE SUPER SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT.
THEY'RE, THIS IS WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED, UM, WITH THE EX.
I MEAN, SOME OF THE LIMITS MAY ACTUALLY BE WITH LESS DISTURBANCE AND LESS, UM, ENCROACHMENT.
SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO GET INTO THE WEEDS ON THESE SPECIFIC PLANS BECAUSE YEAH, THEY'RE BE ANY BIG QUESTIONS, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE ABLE.
I THINK ONLY BIG QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT YOU BUILDING THE WHOLE HOUSE IN BUFFER, WHICH IS WHAT WE USUALLY NOT LIKE TO DO IT UNLESS I, I BELIEVE UNFORTUNATELY THE SETBACKS KIND OF PRECLUDE BUILDING THE HOUSE OUTSIDE OF THE BUFFER.
THERE'S ONLY A SMALL CORNER OF THE LOT THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE 100 FOOT BUFFER.
AND I BELIEVE THAT IS ENTIRELY WITHIN THE SIDE YARD AND FRONT YARD SETBACKS.
SO THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING THERE.
WHAT'S THE NATURE OF THE WATERCOURSE? IT IS A DEPRESSED WETLAND AREA THAT, UH, PERIODICALLY FILLS UP WITH RAIN.
IT HASN'T BEEN PROBABLY TWO MONTHS NOW.
UM, AND EVENTUALLY OVERFLOWS DOWN TO, I BELIEVE THE SPRING, UH, TO BUMBLE BROOK, SORRY, THE SPRING THAT GOES TO BUMBLE BROOK YOU LIVE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO, AND THEN IT GOES TO THE, UH, SUMMIT, BUT IT'S DOWN A SLOPE, CORRECT? FROM WHAT I'M HEARING IT IS, YEAH.
YEAH, IT'S DOWN LIKE STEEP SLOPE.
THERE'S, UH, THE BOULDER, UH, LINED RIDGE THERE.
UM, THEY DID SUBMIT A, UH, RATHER DETAILED WETLANDS REPORT AS PART OF THEIR APPLICATION WITH SOME NICE PICTURES OF THE WETLAND AREA.
UM, BUT THE DISTURBANCE IS MAINLY ON THE UPPER AREA FROM I'M IS GONNA BE C HAS SEEN IT.
UH, THE CAC IS ACTUALLY PART OF THEIR, THEIR, UM, REVIEW.
THEY WERE REQUESTING, UM, INSTALLATION OF RAIN GARDENS.
HOWEVER, A RAIN GARDEN IS, IS REALLY DESIGNED TO TREAT JUST WATER QUALITY AS OPPOSED TO WATER QUANTITY.
SO WITH THE DRYWALLS WE'RE PROPOSING WE'RE TREATING WATER QUANTITY AND WATER QUALITY, UH, WITH WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING TO BE PUT IN.
DO YOU HAVE A LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT CAN INITIALLY TAKE A LOOK AT? WE DO, BUT THE NEXT TIME YOU CAN COMMENT.
DO YOU HAVE TO PRESENT? THIS SHOULD BE ONE THAT EMC, BUT THEY CAN WAIT I THINK WITH ALL THESE OTHER MODIFICATIONS, LIKE WHAT TOM SUGGESTED ONE QUESTION.
UM, ONE QUESTION IS, I GUESS SINCE IT'S A LITTLE UNUSUAL THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE REMOVING, UM, ENCROACHING IMPROVEMENTS, IS THERE A TIMELINE FOR THAT? AND I MEAN, MAYBE IT'S TOO EARLY TO TELL, BUT, UM, IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WHEN, YOU KNOW, GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LIMIT OF DISTURBANCE INITIALLY FROM A DISTURBANCE POINT OF VIEW AS FAR AS IMPACTS, BUT THEN LATER ON IT WILL BE KIND OF A GUIDELINE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION IN THE FUTURE.
SO I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE DO THE REMOVAL OF ENCROACHMENTS COME INTO PLAY IF THAT WOULD COME, IF, IF YOU GRANT PRELIMINARY SIDELINE WILL, THERE WILL BE A CONDITION, THE FINAL SIDELINE IT WOULD'VE TO BE DONE BEFORE THAT.
BUT I, I THINK THE MAIN QUESTION IS THAT, UH, THE TIMELINE FOR ALL THESE, UH, ENCROACHMENTS AND, AND BUILDING THAT, UH, IS CLEAR THEN USUALLY WE GO AND GIVE THE PERMISSION FOR THE NEW PROJECT.
AND SO WHAT YOU ARE ASKING IS TO JUMP AHEAD BEFORE YOU COME WITH A, SOME TIMELINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WELL, KURT SAYING THAT WE CAN GRANT PRELIMINARY, UH, KURT WE WERE DISCUSSING IS THAT PRELIMINARY COULD BE PROVED WITH THE CONDITION THAT THOSE ENCROACHMENTS BE REMOVED BEFORE GRANTING FINAL.
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SAY BEFORE WE GO ANYWHERE FURTHER, WE SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF TIMELINE THAT IT WILL BE DONE.SO IT'LL BE FASTER FOR YOU TO GET US A THIS THING APPROVED.
IF YOU, IF YOU CAN GET AN ESTIMATE FOR HOW LONG IT WOULD TAKE TO REMOVE THE ENCROACHMENTS FROM LIKE TWO WEEKS TO REMOVE IT, THREE WEEKS TO REMOVE IT, THAT KIND OF, I'VE ALREADY, I'VE ALREADY ASKED.
SORRY, NOT MUCH VIEWERSHIP PROBABLY, BUT UM, SO IF YOU WERE REFERRING JUST TO THE BASKETBALL COURT AND THE HOT TUB AREA AND THE SHED ALL, ALL AND THE SHED, YEAH.
THOSE THREE AREAS, UM, THEN THAT CAN BE DONE LIKE WITHIN A WEEK TO 10 DAYS.
AND I GUESS I'M STILL JUST A LITTLE HUNG UP ON THIS CONSTRUCTION FENCE.
SO I GUESS WOULD YOU, WOULD YOU GET PERMISSION TO PUT UP THE CONSTRUCTION FENCE, REMOVE THE ENCROACHMENTS, AND THEN MOVE THE CONSTRUCTION FENCE TO THE TRUE PROPERTY BOUNDARIES? YES.
AND THEN CONTINUE CONSTRUCTION FROM THERE? CORRECT.
WHATEVER CONSTRUCTION IS STILL NEEDED? YES.
BECAUSE YEAH, 'CAUSE I WOULDN'T WANT THE FENCE TO BE UP FOR THE ENTIRE DURATION OF DURATION OF THE WORK BEYOND THE ENCROACHMENTS.
ONCE, ONCE THE ENCROACHMENTS ARE ADDRESSED.
TEMPORARY HAS TO BE TEMPORARY.
ONCE IT'S DONE IT HAS TO BE MY, MY ONLY OTHER QUESTION, UM, I I I THINK THE APPLICANT MENTIONED A 50 YEAR STORM AND I KNOW THERE'S, UM, A RANGE BETWEEN WHAT THE CODE REQUIRES AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN SUGGESTING AS A BEST PRACTICE.
REMIND ME WHAT, WHAT THAT RANGE IS.
SO THE CODE REQUIREMENT IS A 25 YEAR STORM EVENT AND UH, WE'VE BEEN HABITUALLY REQUESTING, UH, THE APPLICANT UPGRADE TO A 50 YEAR STORM EVENT.
DUE TO THE, AND, AND THAT'S WHAT THE APPLICANT SUGGESTED.
MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION BECAUSE DIDN'T THEY CHANGE YES.
WHAT A 50 YEAR STORMING EVENT IS? OH NO, THEY CHANGED THE 25.
SO LET'S SAY IF WE GO BACK 10 YEARS, 25 WAS 25, 50 WAS 50.
BUT NOW THE PREVIOUS 25 IS THE 50 SOMETHING, SOMETHING LIKE THAT LINES 25 YEAR PLUS.
IT'S JUST THEY'VE ALTERED IT TO ADDRESS CHANGES IN CLIMATE IS MY UNDERSTANDING.
I SAY AND IS THAT RETROACTIVE? WOULD, WOULD 25? IT'S JUST THE NEW STANDARD.
SO WE WOULD STILL REFER TO, UM, NEW YORK STATE STORMWATER MANUAL.
UM, AND SO THEY'VE JUST, THEY'VE INCREASED THE STANDARD FOR 25.
SO NOW WE'VE, WE'VE BEEN CALLING IT FOR A WHILE, A 25 YEAR PLUS.
BUT TRADITIONALLY, YES, WE HAVE REQUESTED THAT MOST APPLICANTS GO FOR A 50 YEAR.
UH, ESPECIALLY IN THE TOWN WITH STORMWATER IMPACTS.
SO THE FIFTIES CONSISTENT WITH SORT OF THE BEST PRACTICE THAT WE'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR.
AND MOST APPLICANTS HAVE COMPLIED WITH, IF NOT GOING EVEN FURTHER.
ALSO THE, LIKE YOU HAVE HATCHED AREA FOR THE REMOVING THE DRIVEWAY.
SO THAT WOULD BE SAME TIME DONE WITH THE PATIO.
I MEAN THE THINGS IN THERE, THE DRIVEWAY NOT AS, I I WOULDN'T SAY THE DRIVEWAY, THE OTHER ENCROACHMENTS OFF OFF THE PROPERTY.
UH, ONCE IT'S APPROVED TO, FOR THIS, FOR SUBDIVISION, THAT WOULD ALL NEED TO BE DONE.
UM, FOR, FOR THERE'S A FINAL, FOR FINAL, FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION.
THE, THE WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO REMOVE THE DRIVEWAY, UM, AS PROPOSED IN ORDER TO BE A FINAL SUBDIVISION.
SO JUST TO CONFIRM, WHEN I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE LIMIT OF DISTURBANCE BEFORE, THE LIMIT OF DISTURBANCE THAT'S SHOWN CURRENTLY IS GONNA CHANGE WHEN IT'S SHOWN ON YOUR FINAL PLAT FROM THIS? YES.
'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE UPDATED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO DECLARE OUR INTENT TO BE LEAD AGENCY ON THIS PROJECT? SO MOVED.
ANY OPPOSED? ANY ABSTENTIONS? ALRIGHT, I THINK THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT.
SO, UH, WE WILL CIRCULATE LEAD AGENCY INTENT, UH, TO THE ZONING BOARD AND UH, THERE'LL BE 30 DAY CLOCK THAT HAS, UH, THAT WILL START, UM, THE PLANNING BOARD ONLY MEETS ONCE IN DECEMBER.
SO WE WILL NEXT SEE YOU FOR A CONTINUED WORK SESSION IN JANUARY.
UH, IN THAT TIME PERIOD WE'LL MAKE SURE WE HAVE FINALIZED PLANS FOR EVERYTHING AND UM, SEE IF YOU NEED TO GO TO THE ZONING BOARD.
BUT WHAT IS THE TIMELINE TO BUILD A HOUSE ON THIS ONE? BECAUSE IT WAS ORIGINALLY TWO LOT, RIGHT? IT WAS ONE LOT.
IT WAS ONE, IT WAS ALWAYS ONE LOT EACH
AND THEN THERE WAS ONE
SO THIS IS AN AMENDED SITE PLAN APPLICATION ASSOCIATED WITH, UH,
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SOME CHANGES TO THE PARKING AREA OF AN EXISTING COMMERCIAL BUILDING.UM, THE APPLICANT IS, UH, SEEKING TO HAVE A CHILD DAYCARE CENTER PUT INTO THE BUILDING, UH, WHICH IS A PERMITTED USE IN THE OB ONE DISTRICT.
UH, SO THERE'S NO SPECIAL PERMIT NECESSARY, BUT AS PART OF THAT THEY NEED OUTDOOR PLAY AREA, WHICH IS WHAT THEY ARE COMING IN HERE FOR.
UM, AND TO FACILITATE THAT OUTDOOR PLAY AREA, INTRODUCE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PARKING AREA.
UM, AND I SHALL LET THE APPLICANT PRESENTER PROJECT.
I'M THE FOUNDER AND THE OWNER OF THE INDIE LAB.
WE ARE A PRESCHOOL AND A PARENTING CENTER.
WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR LOCATION, OUR ONLY LOCATION IN ELMSFORD, NEW YORK.
WE SHARE SPACE WITH A COMPANY CALLED THE PLAY PLACE.
IT'S A KIDS' GYM FACILITY AND WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR OUR OWN DEDICATED SPACE SINCE DECEMBER OF 2023.
WE FOUND THAT SPACE AT 10 53 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD IN ARDSLEY.
AND FORTUNATELY WE'RE ABLE TO APPLY FOR A GRANT FUNDED BY THE STATE OF NEW YORK CALLED THE CHILDCARE CAPITAL PROGRAM GRANT, WHICH WE WERE, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THE ONLY RECIPIENT IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY TO RECEIVE CONGRATULATIONS.
IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THERE ARE FEWER SEATS IN CHILDCARE IN THIS PARTICULAR AREA OF WESTCHESTER.
SO IT WAS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT FOR US AND WE ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH THE DAYCARE CENTER BEING LOCATED AT THAT FACILITY.
UM, A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT ME.
I'M A PEDIATRIC SPEECH LANGUAGE PATHOLOGIST.
THAT'S HOW I STARTED MY PRACTICE.
I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH KIDS, UH, FOR 14, 15 YEARS.
UH, BUT I'VE HAD A PRIVATE PRACTICE SINCE 2014.
AND OVER THE COURSE OF MY WORK WITH KIDS, I REALLY REALIZED THERE'S A LOT OF INEQUITIES IN EARLY EDUCATION AND I WANTED TO ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE.
I STARTED INDIE LAB, WHICH WAS A NONCLINICAL ORGANIZATION, A COMPANY TO RUN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS IN 2019 IN THE CITY.
COVID CHANGED A LOT FOR US AND THEN WE MOVED TO WESTCHESTER AND CONTINUED OUR PROGRAMMING WITH THE PLAY PLACE AND GREW OUR SCHOOL SO THAT BY APRIL OF OR FALL 2021 AND THEN APRIL OF 2022, WE WERE ACTUALLY A FULL LICENSED DAYCARE.
WE WERE ABLE TO, UH, ALIGN OURSELVES WITH THE CHILDCARE COUNCIL OF WESTCHESTER.
AND I GOT VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY OF EARLY EDUCATION.
SO I BECAME A BOARD MEMBER OF THE CHILDCARE COUNCIL OF WESTCHESTER, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT ORGANIZATION IN EARLY EDUCATION.
AND I WAS RECENTLY AWARDED THE HALL OF HEROES AWARD.
IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE IT SHOWS JUST HOW DEDICATED WE ARE TO EARLY EDUCATION.
WE ALSO GOT A QUALITY STAR RATING OF A FOUR AT OUR SCHOOL OUT OF FIVE, WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE SAYING YOU HAVE A BUNCH OF MICHELIN STARS.
SO WE'RE REALLY PROUD OF THAT AS WELL.
UM, WE GREW FROM SIX KIDS TO 45 FAMILIES IN THE SPAN OF FOUR YEARS AND HAVE EARNED A LOT OF RECOGNITION IN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME.
SO IN OUR MISSION, WE'RE REALLY FOCUSED ON INCLUSIVE CLASSROOMS, LIKE I SAID, BUT WE HAVE UNIQUE VALUE PROPOSITION IN THAT WE CAN PROVIDE MORE SERVICES THAT ARE COMPLIMENTARY TO FAMILIES BECAUSE WE'RE SPEECH PATHOLOGISTS THAT ARE OVERSEEING THE PROGRAM.
THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES WITH EARLY EDUCATION AND INTERVENTION OF SERVICES IN THE COUNTRY.
AND SO WE CAN ACTUALLY, UH, ENHANCE CHILDREN'S EDUCATION BY OFFERING THEM COMPLIMENTARY CARE IN THAT WAY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE A PARENTING CENTER WHERE WE PROVIDE AND HAVE ALIGNED WITH COLLEAGUES IN OCCUPATIONAL THERAPY, PSYCHOLOGY, SLEEP FEEDING THERAPY, AND CAN PROVIDE WORKSHOPS AND EVENTS TO OTHER, UM, FAMILIES WHO, WHERE WE CAN PROVIDE MORE HOLISTIC CARE TO THEM AND THE GROWTH OF THEIR CHILD.
SO OUR OPERATION IN GENERAL, WE HAVE A CORE PROGRAM THAT'S OUR PRESCHOOL.
WE OFFER CARE TO KIDS WHO ARE 18 MONTHS OLD UP UNTIL FIVE.
WE HAVE A TRANSITION TO PRESCHOOL PROGRAM AS WELL CALLED COOPERATIVE PRESCHOOL AND TO HELP WORKING FAMILIES A BEFORE AND AFTERCARE PROGRAM.
THE BEFORE CARE PROGRAM IS FOR SCHOOL AGED KIDS AND TODDLERS AND PRESCHOOLERS.
AND THE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM EXTENDS FOR PRESCHOOLERS BUT ALSO INCLUDES SCHOOL-AGED CHILDREN SO THAT THEY CAN BE BUSED IN FROM LOCAL SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND COME TO OUR CENTER FOR CARE.
UM, IN ADDITION, OVER THE WEEKENDS, WE ARE HOPING TO ADD MORE THAN WHAT WE CAN CURRENTLY DO AT OUR SITE, UH, BY PROVIDING WORKSHOPS AND EVENTS TO FAMILIES WITH A PARENTING CENTER.
SO THE PROPOSED PLAN IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT, THE 10 53 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
HE'S ACTUALLY MY HUSBAND, WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE HE'S AN ARCHITECT AND THAT HELPS A LOT.
AND, UH, RALPH ZETI, WHO'S OUR SITE ENGINEER, AND THEY'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT MORE
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ABOUT WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO TO MAKE THIS DAYCARE SINCE WE DO NEED A PLAYGROUND TO HAVE A LICENSED SCHOOL AND ALL OF THAT.I DON'T HAVE ONE, BUT I DID THANK YOU ON.
I BELIEVE THE ONLY THING WE ARE FOCUSING ON TONIGHT IS THE PLAYGROUND AREA, CORRECT? YEAH, IT'S THE PLAYGROUND.
SO ALL THE OTHER STUFF IS WONDERFUL, BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT, I UNDERSTAND THE CONDUCT OF, I'M JUST SAYING FOR THE BOARD, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE CONDUCT OF THE SCHOOL OR WHO'S GOING OR WHEN THEY'RE COMING.
IN THE BACK, ALEX EVENING, EVERYBODY, UH, PLEASURE TO BE PRESENTING TO YOU GUYS.
UH, AS, AS FIA MENTIONED, I'M HER HUSBAND.
UH, I AM A LICENSED ARCHITECT.
I'M NOT THE ARCHITECT OF RECORD ON THIS PROJECT, BUT I'LL JUST SET THE STAGE QUICKLY WITH A COUPLE OF SLIDES AND THEN TURN IT OVER TO RALPH.
WE'LL GO THROUGH SOME OF THE TECHNICAL ASPECTS OF THE, OF THE SITE PLAN.
UH, THIS IS A DIAGRAM OF THE BUILDING, UH, 10 53 AND 10 55 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
UH, NORTH IS TO THE RIGHT ON THIS PLAN.
UM, SAWMILL RIVER ROAD RUNS LEFT TO RIGHT ACROSS THE TOP OF THE PAGE 10 53.
UH, IS THE BUILDING AT THE SOUTH END UM, AND THE INDIA LAB SCHOOL IS GONNA BE LOCATED IN THE SOUTHEAST, UH, QUADRANT, UM, WITH THE LOGO THERE, ABOUT A 5,400 SQUARE FOOT INDOOR, UH, SPACE ALLOCATION.
AND THEN IN THE LIGHT GREEN, YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO SEE HERE A RECTANGLE IMMEDIATELY TO THE EAST OF THE SCHOOL, WHICH IS THE INTENDED LOCATION OF THE PLAYGROUND.
IN TERMS OF, UM, THE INTERIOR SPACE HERE, THIS IS NORTH UP.
UM, SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT ROTATED RELATIVE TO THE LAST PLAN YOU SAW, BUT 5,400 SQUARE FOOT SPACE YOU COME IN, UH, FROM, FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE PLANT HERE, UH, WHICH IS THE SOUTH, UM, THERE'S AN OPEN SPACE HERE.
THERE'S GONNA BE AN INDOOR, UH, AN INDOOR GYM HERE, BUT THEN FIVE CLASSROOMS FACING THE NORTHEAST AND SOUTH.
UH, AND FROM THESE TWO CLASSROOMS HERE ON THE EAST, YOU WILL BE ABLE TO WALK DIRECTLY INTO THE PLAYGROUND, UM, THAT RALPH IS GOING TO, UH, DESCRIBE IN MORE DETAIL.
UH, RALPH ZE ENGINEER FOR THE PROJECT, UM, AS WAS DISCUSSED.
UM, SO AS YOU CAN SEE, CAN YOU GUYS SEE MY CURSOR HERE? SO THE PLAYGROUND IS IN THIS AREA.
UM, ALEX, YOU HAVE THE EXISTING PLAN HERE.
IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ZOOM IN ON A LITTLE, I THINK IT WOULD BE EVEN BETTER.
SO IF YOU WANT TO, IF, IF, IF THIS IS TOO DIFFICULT ON, ON THIS, WE CAN JUST GO AND WE CAN, WE CAN DO THIS ALSO.
IF YOU CHANGE SCREENS, WE'RE STILL SEEING THE SLIDESHOW.
WE ALSO HAVE THE PLANS AVAILABLE.
SO IN ORDER TO CREATE THE PLAYGROUND, UM, IN THIS AREA HERE, COULD ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT, PLEASE.
THERE'S A PORTION OBJECT FRAME ONE.
OKAY, YOU GUYS, SOMEONE ELSE SEE THAT? SO CURRENTLY THE, THE EXISTING BUILDING ENDS RIGHT HERE.
THERE IS A, UM, A LANDSCAPE AREA, AND THEN THERE IS A DRIVE AISLE WITH 18 PARKING SPACES IN THE REAR.
UM, WE ARE GONNA BE ELIMINATING THAT LAWN AREA AND EXTENDING THE PLAYGROUND INTO THE DRIVE AISLE, WHICH WILL ELIMINATE THE 18 SPACES IN THE REAR WHERE MY CURSOR IS HERE.
SO IN ORDER TO, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, UM, IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT, YOU KNOW, VIABLE, WE ACTUALLY ADDED SOME SPACES ON LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE PLAN LEFT AND THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PLAN AS IT IS NOW.
UH, THIS SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED IN 1996, I BELIEVE.
UM, THERE WAS A REQUIRED 141 PARKING SPACES BACK THEN.
THE SITE CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW HAS 163 PARKING SPACES.
WE'RE REMOVING THE 18 IN THE REAR.
WE'RE REMOVING ONE MORE PARKING SPACE
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ON THE SIDE HERE TO FACILITATE THE SIDE PARKING.SO THAT'S A TOTAL OF 19 SPACES WE'LL BE LOSING, BUT WE'RE ADDING BACK 10 SPACES BETWEEN THE SIDES OF THE BUILDING.
WE'RE STILL AT 154 THAT WE'RE GONNA BE PROPOSING TO HAVE.
AND OUR CURRENT PLAN ONLY REQUIRES US TO HAVE 145.
ALEX, WHERE IS THE PLAN THAT HAS OUR PARKING COUNT? PARK ACCOUNT IS FOR RIGHT THERE.
1 45 ARE REQUIRED AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE 1 54, SO YOU'RE CORRECT.
UM, THERE IS A, THERE IS A, YOU KNOW, A NET LOSS, BUT, BUT WE ARE, WE DO HAVE A SURPLUS.
UM, WE HAVE A REDUCTION IMPERVIOUS AREA OF ABOUT 1800 SQUARE FEET.
UH, WE ARE NOT, WE'RE NOT EXTENDING BEYOND THE OUTER CURB LINE, SO WE'RE WITHIN THE ALREADY DISTURBED AND PARKING AREA.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ON THE SITE CURRENTLY.
UM, I COULD OPEN UP THE QUESTIONS.
JUST DESCRIBE THE PLAYGROUND, AND I KNOW THERE'S A FENCE AROUND IT.
JUST DESCRIBE WHAT, SO THERE'S A SIX FOOT FENCE AROUND THE PLAYGROUND.
THERE'S GONNA BE SOME KIND OF, UM, PRIVACY SCREENING, UM, SO YOU CAN'T CLEARLY SEE THROUGH IT.
HOW DO YOU GUYS DECIDE ON THE SURFACE? UH, WE'RE STILL DECIDING.
WE'RE, WE'RE STILL DECIDING BETWEEN EITHER A PORT PLACE RUBBER SURFACE OR, UH, ENGINEERED WOOD, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, LOOKS LIKE MULCH.
IT'S MORE CHILD, YOU KNOW, CHILD FRIENDLY THAT YOU SEE THAT IN PLAYGROUNDS IN A NUMBER ALL OVER THE PLACE.
SO WE'RE STILL BETWEEN THOSE TWO SURFACES, BUT EITHER WAY THE PAVEMENT WILL BE REMOVED AND THE PLAYGROUND AREA, IT WILL BE PERVIOUS.
I SPOKE WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT AND UH, THEY CONFIRMED THAT IF AS LONG AS IT BASICALLY, AS LONG AS THE PLAYGROUND'S NOT MADE OF ASPHALT, IT'S GONNA BE COUNTED AS IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE.
IS THERE GONNA BE A OUS COVERAGE? PERVIOUS? EXCUSE ME.
IS THERE GONNA BE A GATE, UM, WHERE THERE ARE TWO, THERE ARE TWO GATES KIDS COULD POTENTIALLY GET OUT, AND HOW IS THAT CAN BE SECURED? THERE ARE TWO GATES IN THE, IN THE FENCE.
SO IN OUR CURRENT
THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA END UP USING.
UH, YOU CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT, ESPECIALLY AT THEIR HEIGHT LEVEL.
SO THAT'S THE MOST LIKELY SITUATION.
SO JUST TO NOTE FOR THIS ONE, THERE ARE SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS FOR, UM, A DAYCARE CENTER THAT REQUIRE THE SITE PLAN TO SHOW THOSE, UM, INTERIOR FEATURES.
SO THEY ARE GONNA ACTUALLY, WE ARE GONNA LOOK AT MORE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU.
I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK THIS SECTION.
UM, SO UNDER J, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN THE OB DISTRICT, WHICH APPLIES TO THE OB ONE DISTRICT HERE.
UM, AND I DO KNOW BUILDING AND ENGINEERING ARE BOTH STILL REVIEWING THE PLAN, SO THEY'LL HAVE SOME UPDATED COMMENTS AS WELL.
UM, BUT THAT TALKS ABOUT INGRESS, EGRESS, UM, YOU KNOW, GLASS SAFETY FEATURES, SOME OF THOSE OTHER ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT WE WOULDN'T NECESSARILY USUALLY LOOK AT FOR A SITE PLAN APPROVAL.
AND SO IT'LL BE REVIEWED BY STAFF AND THEY'LL MAKE COMMENTS ON IT AND WE'LL REVIEW IT AT THE NEXT, IT SHOULD BE PART OF THE PLAN.
UH, MY QUESTION IS THAT THAT, UH, UH, WHAT IS, WHAT IS THAT WHOLE, UH, 1200 SQUARE FEET OF THE, THE PARKING AREA IS WHAT, IS IT JUST A LOT OF, UH, PLA PLA EQUIP BANDS AND ALL THAT STUFF? YES.
IN ORDER TO HAVE A LICENSED DAYCARE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE PLAYGROUND EQUIPMENT THAT'S SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN THAT YOU'RE SERVING.
SO WE'LL HAVE PROBABLY TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT THAT ARE FOR CHILDREN AGES TWO TO FIVE.
AND THEY ARE REQUIRED THROUGH THE OFFICE OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES TO BE OUTDOORS FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME PER DAY.
SO THERE'S A ALSO PHYSICAL ACTIVITY REQUIREMENTS AND DESCRIPTIONS OF HOW THE CHILDREN SHOULD BE MOVING THAT THE PLAYGROUND MEETS.
AND IT'S A SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING FACILITY THAT YOU MAINTAIN OR HOW DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? JUST TO GET A, I HAVE THE PLANS WITH ME IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN IDEA OF THEM.
YEAH, WE CAN SHARE TO SORT OF JUST UNDERSTAND.
WE DON'T NEED TO, BUT IT KIND OF GIVES US A, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE A TOWN.
IT LOOKS LIKE A TOWN PLAYGROUND.
AND THERE ARE SOME COMPONENTS OF PLAYGROUNDS IF YOU'RE REC, IF YOU CAN RECALL A CERTAIN ONE YOU'VE BEEN TO THAT ARE SMALLER FOR YOUNGER CHILD, BUT THEY HAVE A SLIDE, THEY HAVE STEPS THAT GO UP, THEY HAVE A CLIMBING AREA TO WALK
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UP, THINGS LIKE THAT.AND THERE TWO MINTS OF EGRESS, RIGHT? YES.
LEAVE IT TO YOU TO, I WOULD LEAVE IT TO YOU TO KNOW WHAT THE KIDS NEED BENEFIT FROM LESLIE.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T DONE IT.
UM, IS THERE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PLAYGROUND SPACE PER CHILD THAT IS REQUIRED? I BELIEVE THE BILLING AND YOUR DEPARTMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT, AND I KNOW THEY'RE STILL WORKING ON THEIR COMMENTS.
UM, BUT, SO IN PULLING UP WHAT I WAS DISCUSSING BEFORE, UM, THEY DO ALSO LOOK AT THE OCCUPANCY AND USE OF THE AREAS.
SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS BROKEN DOWN.
YOU CAN SEE THE SECTIONS FOR DIFFERENT, EACH GROUPS, UM, FIRE PREVENTION MEASURES, UH, DROP OFF AREAS IN THE PARKING LOT.
IF I, IF I MAY, UH, FOR THAT QUESTION, THE OFFICE OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES VERY STRICTLY PROHIBITS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF CHILDREN IN SPECIFIC AREAS DEPENDING ON THEIR AGE GROUP.
SO THERE, THERE CAN ONLY BE CERTAIN NUMBER OF TIME WITH THE RIGHT SUPERVISION.
AND THOSE RULES TEND TO BE A LITTLE MORE STRICT THAN REALLY EVERYTHING ELSE
SO WE WILL HAVE A SET OF 14 KIDS WITH TWO TEACHERS OUTSIDE AT A TIME AND THE SCHEDULE WILL STAGGER ITSELF SO THAT THEY TAKE TURNS, YOU KNOW, GETTING GROUPS OUTSIDE.
AND I THINK MY QUESTION IS MAYBE THE, THE FLIP SIDE.
SO YOU HAVE A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PEOPLE, REGI, UH, CHILDREN REGISTERED IF IT GROWS, IS THAT ENOUGH SPACE? AND SO THAT, I'M JUST NOT FAMILIAR WITH IT.
AND I WOULD, YEAH, I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE MUCH MORE STRESSFUL.
THERE'S A CERTAIN CAPACITY THAT YOU CAN HAVE EVERY CLASSROOM.
THE WAY THAT WE'RE DESIGNING IT EITHER HAS 10 TO 12 STUDENTS IN IT, OR 14 DEPENDING ON THE SIZE, BUT YOU CAN'T ENROLL MORE THAN THOSE, THAT CAPACITY FOR THAT DAY.
SO I MIGHT HAVE 62 FAMILIES IN TOTAL PER DAY THAT I CAN HAVE.
AND THAT'S NOT THE SAME NUMBER USUALLY AS THE CO THE, THE, THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING.
NOT STRICTLY TOWARDS THE PLAYGROUND.
IT WAS THE RATIO OF CHILDREN TO THE PLAYGROUND SIZE.
THAT'S ALSO A RULE IN OCFS, THERE'S ABOUT 25 SQUARE FOOT PER, UH, PLAYGROUND SPACE PER CHILD.
SHE KNOWS IN THERE 25 SQUARE FEET PER PER CHILD.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION? I, I THINK YOU JUST FOR THE PARKING, SO IF, CONSIDERING THAT THIS, IS IT EXISTING PARKING THAT YOU ARE SHOWING IT NEXT TO IT OR IT WAS ADDED PARKING? THIS IS THE UPDATED, WE CAN SHOW YOU EXISTING.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT JUST WANTED TO COMPARE.
BUT HOW DOES THE EXISTING LOOK? MM.
SO THIS, HERE'S THE EXISTING PLAN.
THESE, THESE HERE ARE THE 18 SPACES THAT WE WILL BE REMOVING.
AND IN THE EXISTING PLAN, THE DRY VILE IS CLOSER TO THE BUILDING, CORRECT? IT'S CLOSER TO THE BUILDING.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A 10 FOOT GRASS BUFFER BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE CURB.
AND THAT WOULD, AND THE CURB IS THIS DOTTED LINE HERE.
WE WILL BE REMOVING THAT CURB.
PLAYGROUND WILL GO IN, PLAYGROUND EXTENDS INTO THE DRIVE VILE, AND NOW THE DRIVE VI WILL BE PUSHED TO WHERE THE PARKING IS LOCATED.
NOW HOW MUCH CIRCULATION GOES ON BACK THERE? I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT OFFICES IN THAT, THAT BUILDING WITH THE TWO BUILDINGS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A LOT IN THIS AREA.
I THINK IT'S MORE CENTRALIZED TOWARD THE, UM, THE FRONT, TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE SITE.
UM, ARE YOU GONNA HAVE BOLLARDS AT THE CORNERS OR SOMETHING TO MAKE SURE NO ONE'S CUTTING THE CORNER AND WHERE THE FENCE IS? YEAH, WE HAVE TO, YEAH.
AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A 10 FOOT BETWEEN THE CURB AND THE FENCE.
THERE'S A, THERE'S A 10 FOOT PLANTING AISLE IN THERE.
SO THERE WILL BE, YOU KNOW, THERE'LL BE A
I'LL JUST ADD THAT THIS IS THE BACK OF THE BUILDING.
SO MANY OF THE PEOPLE COMING INTO MEDICAL APPOINTMENTS, WHICH MOST OF THE SPACE IS MEDICAL, UH, WILL, YOU KNOW, TYPICALLY PARK IN THE FRONT AND OFF TO THE SIDE.
SO WE'RE OCCUPYING A LARGE PART OF THE BACK.
BUT, BUT IT'S A TWO STORY PORTION RIGHT THERE.
IS THE TOP STORY GUYS EXIT FROM SIDE OR THEY GO EXIT FROM THE FRONT OR THERE IS IT, SO LET ME, LET ME MAYBE, YEAH, I JUST WALK YOU GUYS THROUGH THE, THROUGH HOW THE BUILDING OPERATES.
SO THE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING IS ACTUALLY, IS ACTUALLY RIGHT HERE IN THIS AREA.
THE, THE SCHOOL, THE MAIN ENTRANCE TO THE SCHOOL IS ACTUALLY GONNA BE DIRECTLY INTO THE SCHOOL HERE.
SO IF YOU'RE COMING INTO, THROUGH THE LOBBY OF THE BUILDING, YOU'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS, THIS, THIS RED CLOUDED AREA.
SO MOST OF THE TRAFFIC, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE TRAFFIC IS PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO BE CLOSE TO THIS DOOR OR THE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, DOOR JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT.
SO YOU COULD PARK HERE AND WALK
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IN THIS WAY.THE SCHOOL, HOWEVER, IS GONNA BE ENTERED FROM THE SOUTH SIDE.
AND, AND THESE ARE ALL OFFICES ALONG THE THINGS, OR THERE IS A CENTRAL CORRIDOR THAT THESE OFFICES FACES, OR I KNOW THERE IS QUITE A MANY TENANTS.
AND THEN THEY, THE SECOND STORY WAS ADDED LATER ON AFTER THEY, BUT THIS IS NOT A CORRIDOR.
THIS THE, THIS BUILDING ON THE LEFT, WHICH IS 10 53, IS A TWO STORY BUILDING.
SO THERE'S AN ELEVATOR THAT'S ACCESSIBLE JUST OFF THIS LOBBY.
THE TENANTS THAT ARE IN THE NORTH SIDE OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS 10 55, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE DOORS ENTERING DIRECTLY INTO SUITES FROM THE SIDEWALK THAT, THAT ENCIRCLES THE BUILDING FROM THE BACK AND THE FRONT FROM, YEAH, FROM THE BACK END, THE FRONT.
SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HERE, IF YOU, IF I ZOOM IN, YOU CAN SEE STEPS LEADING TO DOORS.
ALL ALONG THIS, THIS BUILDING.
AND ON THE FAR RIGHT SIDE, I KNOW THERE'S AN ENT THERE, I THINK WITH THE DOOR ON THE NORTH, I BELIEVE.
UM, YEAH, THERE, THERE, I MEAN THERE'S A FAIR BIT OF VACANCY IN THE BUILDING RIGHT NOW.
UM, BUT THERE IS, THERE'S A NUMBER OF OFFICE TENANTS AND A NUMBER OF MEDICAL OFFICE TENANTS IN, YOU KNOW, THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING.
WHAT IS IT TOP A DENTAL, UM, SCHOOL.
RIGHT? IT'S A, A DENTAL OFFICE AND SCHOOL ON, ON THE, ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
SECOND FLOOR OF THE, YES, THAT'D BE ALRIGHT, AMANDA.
SO MY QUESTION HAD TO DO WITH THANK YOU.
GOING BACK TO THE 62 FAMILIES IS, I KNOW WE'VE SEEN THE TERM FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT BEFORE.
UM, IS IT 62 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT BETWEEN THE HALF DAY AND FULL DAY? OR IS IT 62, UM, CHILDREN ALL THE TIME? OR, OR JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT NUMBER.
THAT NUMBER IS A PER DAY NUMBER BECAUSE YOU CAN ENROLL MORE CHILDREN, BUT THEY NOT, THEY DON'T ALWAYS COME EVERY DAY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, YOU COULD HAVE FAMILY THAT COMES TWICE A WEEK AND HALF DAY, OR A FAMILY THAT COMES THREE TIMES A WEEK, HALF DAY OR FULL DAY.
SO THE TOTAL ENROLLMENT MIGHT BE HIGHER THAN THAT.
BUT IN THE BUILDING ON A PARTICULAR DAY, I CANNOT HAVE MORE THAN 62 CHILDREN.
AND THE FACT THAT SOME OF THEM MIGHT LEAVE HALF DAY MEANS I'LL HAVE LESS
WELL IT'S EFFECTIVELY THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES, IT'S A FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT.
IS THE, IS THE, THAT'S THE NUMBER.
AND ONE LAST QUESTION ABOUT THIS PREVIOUS, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
UH, DO YOU REALLY NEED TO ADD THESE PARKING SPOTS SINCE YOU ARE ALREADY 10 EXTRA SPACE? I, I THINK SO.
THE, FROM FROM THE LANDLORD'S PERSPECTIVE, UM, I I MEAN I THINK YOU GUYS ALL KNOW THE OFFICE MARKET IS A STRUGGLE.
UM, AND MEDICAL MEDICAL OFFICE REQUIRES A LOT MORE PARKING.
SO THE LANDLORD WOULD BE REALLY LOW IF TO LOSE PARKING SPACES THAT WOULD PREVENT HER FROM, YOU KNOW, LOCATING ADDITIONAL MEDICAL OFFICE TENANTS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE IF THEY BRING IN A DIFFERENT USE THAT REQUIRES MORE PARKING, SUDDENLY THEY MIGHT BE SHORT.
THE ALSO THE ADDITION OF THE PARKING WILL HELPS FACILITATE DROP OFF AND PICK UP OF THE CHILDREN AND MAKING SURE THERE'S YEAH, NO BACKUPS.
THE LANDLORD HAS AGREED TO RESERVE, UH, SPECIFIC TIMES FOR US IN THE MORNING WITH THAT PARKING, WHICH HELPS US GET PEOPLE IN QUICKLY.
YEAH, I I I WAS WANTED TO HEAR THAT, THAT IT IS A SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS THING IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, UH, CHILDCARE APPLICATIONS WE APPROVE AND THEY ALL HAD A SIMILAR KIND OF SYSTEM.
SO YEAH, WE, WE HAVE, WE THAT CERTAINLY HELPS.
WE DIDN'T MENTION THIS EARLIER, BUT THIS WHOLE AREA OF THESE 10 PARKING SPACES WILL BE DEDICATED FOR MORNING DROP OFF FOR THE INDOOR IS, WHICH IS THE, THE BUSIEST PERIOD.
AND THEN FOR, FOR, FOR, UM, FOR, FOR PICKUPS LATE IN THE AFTERNOON, THERE'S MANY MORE PHASES.
SO PARENTS WILL BE USING PARKING ACROSS THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER PARKING IS AVAILABLE ACROSS THE WHOLE FACILITY.
PICKUPS HAPPEN AT HALF DAY, THEN 3:00 PM THEN LATER IT'S LIKE, THERE'S LIKE A RUSH IN THE MORNING AND THERE'S KIND OF STAGGERED RELEASES THROUGHOUT THE DAY.
AND ALSO JUST NEXT TIME YOU SHOW THE PLAN, TELL US HOW MANY, IF ANY, UH, HANDICAP SPACES ARE, I BELIEVE THEY'RE ADDING ONE AS PART OF, UH, THE PARKING THAT THEY'RE ADDED.
WHICH ONE IS THAT? IT'S AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCREEN.
UH, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S TWO ACTUALLY THERE'S ONE ON THE, UM, I GUESS THERE'S ONE, THE NORTHERLY SIDE OF THE BUILDING.
SO RIGHT WHERE MY PRECURSOR IS RIGHT NOW, WE'RE JUST RELOCATING THIS ONE SLIGHTLY.
THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO LIKE DROP OFF HASH AREA NEXT TO IT CURRENTLY.
SO WE ARE JUST IMPLEMENTING THAT AND MAKING THAT ILLEGAL.
UM, BUT IT IS, IT IS MARKED AS AN EDA SPOT.
UM, AND THEN WE ARE ACTUALLY ADDING ONE WHERE MY CURSOR IS RIGHT NOW, WHERE THERE WAS NOT ONE PREVIOUSLY.
AND THEN THEY GO, SO JUST SHOW THE PATH OF HANDICAP GOING INTO, INTO THE BUILDING.
AND SO THIS ONE HERE WOULD, IF YOU CAN FOLLOW MY CURSOR, WOULD GO HERE
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ONTO A WALKWAY THAT WE'RE GONNA BUILD ONTO A AND THEN ONTO THIS EXISTING WALKWAY HERE.IT DOES SHOW YOU THE NEXT DOOR.
ANYONE ELSE HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THIS? MATT? WHAT'S THE ACTION THAT WE CAN OR NEED TO TAKE? UH, SO THE BOARD CAN EITHER, UH, CONSIDER PUTTING IT ON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER 4TH, OR IF FEELS IT NEEDS MORE INFORMATION, IT CAN UH, HOLD IT OVER FOR A SECOND WORK SESSION ON THE DECEMBER 4TH MEETING.
I THINK MAYBE ARE, I THOUGHT HE WAS JUST SAYING HE'D BEEN MAKING MORE EDITS.
IS THAT SOMETHING WE'RE GONNA GET BEFORE? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S, UH, ALSO, UM, DETAILS, STAFF HAVE NOT ALL COMMENTED ON THE APPLICATION YET.
THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, UH, AND ENGINEERING.
JUST SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND IF I MAY, WHILE YOU, IF THIS IS APPROPRIATE, THIS IS MY FIRST PLANNING BOARD MEETING, SO LET ME KNOW
IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN UNINVITED TO CONTINUE OUR SCHOOL AT THE REQUIRED SPACE.
SO I HAVE 10 TO 11 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND 45 FAMILIES TO MOVE IN A YEAR.
MATT, WHEN WOULD WE NEED THE PLANS IN TIME FOR THE DECEMBER MEETING? UH, WE REVISED PLANS.
WE WOULD LIKE THEM AND HOPEFULLY ALSO RECEIVE COMMENTS BY, UH, I'D SAY TUESDAY THE 26TH DUE TO THANKSGIVING BEING NEXT WEEK.
CAN JUST TO ASK, CAN WE SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND YOU COULD ALWAYS KEEP IT OPEN THAT THAT IS AN OPTION.
I MEAN, I I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY, WHAT EDITS ARE REALLY BEING MADE TO THE PLAN OTHER THAN MAYBE SOME ARROWS OR PATHS.
I THINK WE'LL, WELL THAT'S THE, THE POTENTIAL EDITS WOULD BE THE ADDING THE A DA PATHS AND UH, IF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS ANY, UH, ISSUES OR SUGGESTED MODIFICATIONS TO THE INTERIOR LAYOUT, THOSE WOULD'VE TO BE MADE AS WELL.
BUT IF I MAY, DOESN'T THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WOULDN'T THAT JUST BE, UM, CODE EDITS AND WE EITHER COMPLY OR WE DON'T? I MEAN THOSE ARE, WOULDN'T IT BE, IT DEPENDS.
WOULDN'T THEY BE PICKED UP DURING BUILDING? UM, NO.
SO IN THIS INSTANCE, THAT SPECIAL PROVISION I REFERENCED TALKS ABOUT THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE AMEND THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION, WHICH IS REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO IN THIS INSTANCE, ALL OF THOSE FEATURES THAT ARE LISTED UNDER SECTION J OF THE OB DISTRICT, UH, I THINK IT'S 2 85.
UM, I JUST HAD 2 85 25 J 2 85, 25 1 J, WHICH APPLIES TO THE OB.
ONE DISTRICT HAS SPECIAL REQUIREMENTS SAYING THAT APPLICATION FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL SHALL INCLUDE A FULLY DIMENSIONAL DIAGRAM OR FOR A PLAN SHOWING PLANNED OCCUPANCY OR USE OF ALL AREAS, INTERIOR AND EXTERIOR, UH, INCLUDING EXITS, FIRE PREVENTION MEASURES, ALL THOSE THINGS THAT YOU USUALLY WOULD HAVE AT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT LEVEL REQUIRED AT THIS LEVEL.
DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE OF WHEN THE STAFF MIGHT BE ABLE TO, TO PROVIDE THEIR COMMENTS? SO THE SET OF PROBATION HAD, I THOUGHT THE, THE, THE EGRESS THAT, THAT IS TRUE.
I'VE HAD PRELIMINARY DISCUSSIONS WITH BUILDING DEPARTMENT STAFF THAT ARE REVIEWING IT AND THEY DID NOTE A FEW THINGS, BUT WE'RE STILL WAITING ON TO GET THE FULL SET OF COMMENTS.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, TO THE EXTENT ANYTHING'S MISSING, IT SEEMS PURELY TECHNICAL SHOWING THE GATE AROUND THE, OR THE FENCE AROUND THE PLAYGROUND AND THE DOTTED LINE FROM THE, I MEAN THERE'S NOTHING SUBSTANTIVE THAT'S AT ISSUE HERE.
AND IT SEEMS TO ME WE COULD HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING IN DECEMBER AND I'M SURE SOMETIME IN EARLY DECEMBER, WHATEVER, YOU CAN GET ALL THE ADDITIONAL MATERIAL THAT STAFF NEEDS TO LOOK AT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
AND THEY'LL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME TO LOOK AT IT BEFORE THE JANUARY MEETING WHEN WE MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISIONS.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS THINKING TOO, RIGHT? YEAH, I THINK EITHER WAY IT'S GONNA BE THE SAME.
'CAUSE UH, YOU HAVE A MEETING IN JANUARY AND THAT, UH, THE, I MEAN EITHER THE FRONT END OR BACK END, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE ALL THE INFORMATION BEFORE YOU, WE GOING TO GIVE YOU, I POLITELY DISAGREE.
WE ARE IN A REALLY INTENSE TIMELINE.
WHAT IS YOUR TIMELINE THEN? EXPLAIN TO US, YOU KNOW, IF WE DON'T GET LICENSING FOR THE OFFICE OF CHILDREN AND FAMILY SERVICES REQUIRES THREE OR FOUR MONTHS.
IF I DON'T GET THE SCHOOL BUILT BY JUNE, I CAN'T OPEN IN SEPTEMBER.
SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE MOTION HERE? SO I WOULD LIKE TO ENTERTAIN,
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OR IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE A MOTION TO PUT THIS ON FOR PUBLIC HEARING IN DECEMBER AND YOU KNOW, IF ALL THE DOCUMENTATION THAT WE NEED IS NOT AVAILABLE THEN, THEN IT MIGHT HAVE TO BE HELD OVER.I I, I GUESS I STILL WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IF, IF THE STAFF HAS A TIMELINE FOR WHEN THEY'LL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE COMMENTS AND IF, IF THIS TIMELINE IS REALISTIC FOR THEM.
SO MATT WAS SAYING THAT PLANS WOULD NEED TO BE SUBMITTED BY TUESDAY.
I RECEIVED UH, WORD FOR MONDAY.
I THINK THAT'S NOT LIKELY TO HAPPEN.
I MEAN, LOOK, FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T DO MOTIONS TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING DATE.
UM, SECOND, UM, LOOK, PUBLIC HEARING SO THE PUBLIC CAN COMMENT ON THE PLAN.
WE HAVE MORE THAN ENOUGH OF THE PLAN FOR THE PUBLIC TO COMMENT ON.
THEY DON'T NEED TO SEE WHERE THE GATES TO THE FENCE ARE GONNA BE, SO ON AND SO FORTH.
I WOULDN'T THINK, AND I'M SURE ON AN EXPEDITED BASIS, WHETHER IT'S LATE NOVEMBER, EARLY DECEMBER, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA COME UP WITH YOUR REVISED PLANS.
YOU'RE GOING TO GIVE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR EVERYTHING THEY NEED SO THEY CAN REVIEW IT.
BECAUSE YOUR TIMELINE
YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE ANY SIGNIFICANT COMMENTS, I'M SURE THE APPLICANT WILL REVISE THE PLANS AND HAVE THEM READY.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE MAKE OUR DECISION.
LET'S JUST MOVE AHEAD WITH THIS PUBLIC HEARING.
WHAT IS UH, UH, AL HOW LONG DID IT TAKE? SECOND SORT OF RETRO, I MEAN FOUR MONTHS OUT INTO THE HUH, FOUR MONTHS, FOUR MONTHS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF WHAT YES.
YOU WANTED TO DO, SIR? UH, WE NEED IT BY MARCH.
SO BY, BY FAR FEBRUARY, MARCH.
YOU STILL HAVE THAT? WELL, YEAH, I MEAN I'M SURE THEY'VE LOOKED AT THEIR TIMELINE CLOSELY.
I MEAN, THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT THAT YOU THINK PRECLUDES US FROM HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THE PUBLIC CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS IN TWO WEEKS? OKAY, LET'S JUST GO AHEAD.
OKAY, SO I MEAN, I'M, I'M OKAY.
IT'S A, SEEMS LIKE VERY, UH, WELL THOUGHT OUT IN TERMS OF THE, YOUR END OF THE OPERATION.
DOES STAFF AGREE OR I KNOW, I THINK THIS IS, SO EVERYONE, I'M HAPPY TO JUMP IN ON THIS AND I I THINK IT IS BEEN A GOOD DISCUSSION.
MY SUGGESTION, I'M GONNA TAKE DOWN THE SHARE SCREEN ACTUALLY SO YOU CAN SEE ME FOR A MOMENT.
UM, SO I THINK THE BOARD MADE SOME GOOD COMMENTS AND WITH RESPECT TO THE TIMELINE, I BELIEVE THAT IF THE APPLICANT CAN GET SOMETHING IN MONDAY OR TUESDAY, THAT SHOULD BE ENOUGH TIME FOR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO REVIEW, UM, THAT BEING SPECIFICALLY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AHEAD OF THE MEETING ON 12 FOUR.
THAT WAY OUR OFFICE CAN REPORT BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD AT THAT MEETING AHEAD OF OPENING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THE PLANNING BOARD CAN ASK ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS THAT IT MAY HAVE PRIOR TO OPENING IT TO PUBLIC COMMENTS.
AND THEN AT THAT TIME THERE COULD, IF THERE ARE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT WISH TO SPEAK, THEY CAN.
AND IF FOR ANY REASON THERE'S ANYTHING OPEN-ENDED, THE BOARD COULD ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO THE JANUARY MEETING.
I WANT THE APPLICANT TO BE AWARE OF, EVEN IF THE PLANNING BOARD CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING ON DECEMBER 4TH, UH, THE NEXT FOLLOWING MEETING WOULD BE JANUARY 2ND.
SO THE EARLIEST THE DECISION WOULD BE MADE WOULD BE JANUARY 2ND, WHICH WOULD STILL FALL WELL, WITHIN YOUR TIMELINE, UM, IF FOR ANY REASON THE PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD OVER TO JANUARY 2ND, THERE WILL BE A SECOND JANUARY MEETING, WHICH WOULD BE JANUARY 15TH.
SO LOOKS LIKE, UM, YOU'D BE ON A GOOD TIMELINE THERE TO GET YOUR DECISION IN JANUARY, WHETHER IT BE THE SECOND OR THE 15TH.
AND AND IF THE APPLICANT WASN'T ABLE TO GET IN ANYTHING BY MONDAY OR TUESDAY, WOULD THAT CHANGE? YEAH, THAT, THAT CADENCE.
THEY GO TO THE JAN SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, RESPOND.
SO IF THE APPLICANT WAS UNABLE TO GET, WHAT WE'LL DO TOMORROW, IN FACT IS I WILL SPEAK WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE AND WE CAN SPEAK WITH OUR BUREAU OF ENGINEERING IS AND FIND OUT, UH, HOW MUCH TIME WE THINK THEY WOULD NEED.
THEY MAY SAY, HEY, WE ONLY NEED A BUSINESS DAY OR TWO.
AND THAT WAY IF THEY GET IT IN, YOU KNOW, TUESDAY, LATE TUESDAY OR EVEN WEDNESDAY, THAT WOULD STILL, EVEN WITH THURSDAY AND FRIDAY OFF, IT WOULD STILL GIVE MONDAY AND TUESDAY FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING TO CONDUCT THEIR REVIEW AHEAD OF THE DECEMBER 4TH MEETING.
UM, SO WHY DON'T I DO THAT? I CAN FIND OUT DIRECTLY.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK FOR THEM, UM, GIVEN THEIR SPECIFIC WORKLOADS.
BUT I THINK, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S MY SUGGESTION AT THIS TIME.
AND, AND THEN ASSUMING EV EVERYTHING WORKS AS, AS WE'VE JUST DISCUSSED, I GUESS, WHEN WOULD DOCUMENTS BE ON THE WEBSITE FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW PRIOR TO THE PUBLIC HEARING? SO THAT WAS MY QUESTION AS WELL.
WHEN DO YOU NEED TIME TO POST THE
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NOTICE AND EVERYTHING FOR THE PUBLIC TO POST? UH, SO NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING WOULD GO OUT, UH, THURSDAY OR FRIDAY OF THIS WEEK AS TOMORROW.UH, DOCUMENTS FOR THE WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THEY SUBMIT MONDAY, TUESDAY, UH, YOU KNOW, WE PUT PUT THEM OFF WEDNESDAY.
SO I GUESS I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IF, IF THERE'S ANY SUBSTANTIAL THINGS THAT NEED TO GO INTO THAT NOTICE IS REALLY THE BIGGEST CONCERN.
UH, I MEAN THE NOTICE, OKAY, WE NEED COORDINATE TOMORROW.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT, THAT'S NO PROBLEM.
AND I WOULD SAY THIS, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AS, UH, MR. BOLDEN MENTIONED STAFF COORDINATES WITH THE CHAIR ON SCHEDULING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, UM, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE A MOTION THIS EVENING.
STAFF CAN COMMUNICATE WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE TOMORROW AND REPORT BACK TO BOTH THE BOARD OR THE BOARD CHAIR AND THE APPLICANT TEAM TO SEE WHERE WE STAND AND IF IT MAKES SENSE, WE WILL GET IT ON.
AND IF FOR ANY REASON IT DOESN'T, THEN WE WILL RELAY THAT BACK TO ALL PARTIES.
THAT SOUNDS, AND AND YOU WOULD COMMUNICATE OR, OR THE CHAIR WILL COMMUNICATE ABOUT THE PUBLIC HEARING, RIGHT? 'CAUSE TO LET YOU KNOW.
WELL, I I THINK AARON, AARON WILL LET THEM KNOW.
YEAH, I'LL MAKE, AND HE'LL PROBABLY LET ALL OF US KNOW.
I'LL KNOW WE CAN DO, WE CAN, WE CAN DO WHATEVER.
BUT IT'S, UH, IT'S A STAFF INVOLVED.
SO WE CANNOT REALLY SPEAK FOR THE STAFF.
WE'LL BE IN COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPLICANT AND, GOOD.
SO GREAT ADDITION TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE DON'T NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE, DO WE? NO.
WE NEED, I HAVE A MOTION THAT YOU MOVE THE CHOCOLATE OVER HERE.