* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. AND IF WE REMAIN, IF WE COULD HAVE A MOMENT OF, UH, SILENCE, UM, THE, [ MOMENT OF SILENCE In memory of Elizabeth Theiler Martin, landscape designer and co-founder of Stephen Tilly, Architect, a firm in Dobbs Ferry, who passed away on Tuesday, November 19th at New York's Allen Hospital after a long illness. In memory of those killed in Ukraine due to the Russian invasion, and in memory of those who have perished due to the terrorist attack by Hamas on October 7, 2023] WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE. FOR ELIZABETH MARTIN, SHE WAS A LOCAL LANDSCAPE DESIGNER AND ACTIVE ENVIRONMENTALIST. UH, SHE GREW UP IN HASTINGS. SHE WAS THE ONLY CHILD OF MAX, UH, THYER, A MEDICAL RESEARCHER WHO WON THE NOBLE, UM, YOU KNOW, PRIZE. ACTUALLY. HASTINGS HAS, I THINK, MORE NOBLE PRIZE WINNERS THAN ANY PLACE IN THE UNITED STATES OR POSSIBLY IN THE WORLD. UM, AND, UM, VERY MODEST, UH, VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT CIVIC ACTIVITIES. AND, UM, SHE WAS ALSO, UM, INVOLVED IN, IN DANCE, UM, AT THE MASTER SCHOOL. UH, SHE, UH, DANCED AND DID CHOREOGRAPHY FOR GILBERT AND SULLIVAN, UM, AND DID A NUMBER OF, UM, SHOWS AT HARVARD HASTINGS PUDDING SHOWS AT HARVARD. SHE GRADUATED IN THE CLASS OF 1960. UM, SHE WENT ON TO STUDY WITH, UM, MARTHA GRAHAM, AMONG OTHERS, AND FORMED ELIZABETH MARTIN AND COMPANY. AND, UM, SHE CHOREOGRAPH A PERFORMANCE CALLED RIOT, WHICH DEPICTED, DEPICTED A PANEL DISCUSSION THAT DETERIORATED INTO VIOLENCE USING MOVEMENT AND FREEZE FRAMES TAKEN FROM PHOTOGRAPHS OF RIOTS AFTER MARTIN LUTHER KING'S ASSASSINATION. AND, UM, IT, UM, YOU KNOW, WAS, WAS SUCCESSFUL. AND IN, UM, IN GREENBERG, UH, SHE MOVED TO, UM, HASTINGS AND IN DS FERRY, AND SHE WAS INVOLVED WITH HER HUSBAND, STEVE TILLEY. UH, THEY HAVE A LANDSCAPE DESIGN, UH, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECTURE FIRM. AND RIGHT NOW, UH, THAT FIRM IS INVOLVED IN RESTORING, UH, THE DEL HOUSE, THE HISTORICAL EL HOUSE INTO A MUSEUM. UM, SO SHE, SHE WAS JUST REALLY A FANTASTIC HUMAN BEING, A TERRIFIC PERSON, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST A ROLE MODEL FOR, FOR OTHERS. SO SHE WILL BE ENORMOUSLY, UH, YOU KNOW, MISSED. THEN IF I COULD JUST ADD, AS A RESIDENT OF DOBBS FERRY, THAT ELIZABETH MARTIN AND STEVE TILLEY ARE A REAL, WERE A REAL DOBBS FERRY POWER COUPLE IN THEIR WORK AS ARCHITECTS ON, IN THEIR COMMUNITY MINDEDNESS. UM, THEY WERE MOST REVERED AND RESPECTED, AND WE WILL, YES, WE WILL MISS HER PASSING. BUT, UM, SHE WAS A REALLY TERRIFIC PERSON, VERY PROGRESSIVE IN ALL WAYS OF BEING IN HER LIFE, AND, AND A VERY PROGRESSIVE ARCHITECTURE FIRM AS WELL. SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT TO IT. VERY WELL RESPECTED, UM, THROUGHOUT, NOT JUST IN DOBBS FERRY. YEAH. SHE COULD RELATE TO ANYBODY, WHETHER THEY WERE TOP OR IN THE BOTTOM OF, UM, OF THEIR PROFESSIONS AND THE COMMUNITY. JUST A REALLY FANTASTIC HUMAN BEING. UM, WE ALSO WANT TO, UM, HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE, UM, IN MEMORY OF THOSE KILLED IN UKRAINE DUE TO THE RUSSIAN INVASION AND MEMORY OF THOSE WHO HAVE PERISHED DUE TO THE TERRORIST ATTACK BY HAMAS ON OCTOBER 7TH, 2023. THANK YOU. LEMME TAKE. GREAT. SO, UM, FIRST ON THE AGENDA, UH, WE ARE SO LUCKY TO HAVE, UM, ROLL [ ROLL CALL: Town Clerk] CALL. ROLL CALL. A ROLL CALL. SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR FINER HERE. COUNCILMAN SHEEN PRESENT. COUNCILWOMAN HABER PRESENT, COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS, PRESENT TOWN ATTORNEY AND PARLIAMENTARIAN, MR. DENKA PRESENT. GREAT. [ Maria Regina Seniors who played in a Powder Puff Football Game October 25 to raise funds for the White Plains Hospital Center for Cancer Care -- Grace Giacinto (initiated the Powder Puff Fundraiser), Julia Commisso, Megan Donohoe, Olivia Maskara, Sofia Mora-Parmalee, Nicole Seery Presentation of a check for $1,000 (raised by the Powder Puff fundraiser) to Jill Shulman, AVP of the White Plains Hospital Center for Cancer Care Youth Shelter Volunteers -- Jadon Cappas, Joseph Langyel, Fabio Pinto, Devon Reid, Karim Sajous] UH, GREENBERG HAS A LOT OF GREAT SCHOOLS IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND ONE OF THE, OUR TERRIFIC, UH, SCHOOLS IS MARIA REGINA, YOU HIGH SCHOOL. UM, SO TODAY WE'RE GONNA BE, UM, CELEBRATING, UH, THE CONTRIBUTION, ONE CONTRIBUTION AMONG MANY THAT MARIA REGINA HIGH SCHOOL, UM, UM, HAS GIVEN TO THE COMMUNITY. UH, WE HAVE SOME, UM, SENIORS WHO PLAYED IN A POWDER PUFF FOOTBALL GAME ON OCTOBER 25TH TO RAISE FUNDS FOR THE WHITE PLAINS HOSPITAL CENTER FOR CANCER CARE. AND WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOGNIZE AND HONOR, UH, [00:05:01] GRACE JACINTO, UH, OLIVIA MASCARA, JULIA COMISO MAY, MEGAN DONAHUE, SOPHIA MORA, PARMA LEE, AND NICOLE SIRI. SO I'LL GIVE YOU SOME CERTIFICATES, AND THEN THERE'S GONNA BE A PRESENTATION OF A CHECK TO JILL SCHULMAN. AND LADIES, THIS WAS ON MY BIRTHDAY, SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR WORK. AND PLEASE, WHEN YOU HAVE THE, I'LL GIVE IT TO YOU WHEN YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY, YOU, WE WANT YOU TO DESCRIBE WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU'VE DONE, AND WHAT THE PROCEEDS GO FOR. OKAY? SO FIRST GRACE, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE IT A, A SPEECH ? YOU CAN JUST HAVE ONE SPEECH. YOU DON'T ALL HAVE TO HAVE A SPEECH. IT'S OKAY. OKAY. THAT'S, THAT WAS EFFECTIVE . YEAH. NOBODY WANTS TO TALK OFF GUARD. UM, EVEN THOUGH THIS WAS A SMALL DONATION, WE HOPE THAT IT'S THE FIRST OF MANY TO THE WHITE PLAINS CANCER CARE, AND WE ALL WORKED VERY HARD THANKS TO MS. MURRAY AND ALL HER HELP. SO WE HOPE IT HAS A BIG IMPACT AND WE HOPE WE CAN MAKE MORE DONATIONS IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S GREAT. YOU SEE, WE LEARNED BECAUSE WE LEARNED A LESSON JUST NOW THAT IF YOU GO TO A TOWN BOARD MEETING AND YOU DON'T SAY ANYTHING, YOU COME OFF REALLY GREAT . SO THAT'S GOOD. SO NOW THAT, JULIA, YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? OH, THAT'S GOOD. MEGAN. DONNA, YOU YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING? . SOPHIA MORE PARLY. DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? NICOLE? SARAH, SHE'S, AND, UH, NOW WE HAVE THE PRESENTATION OF THE CHECK CEREMONY. JOEL SCHULMAN, PLEASE. YEAH. OKAY. CLOSER TOGETHER. COME ON. YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE ALL GONNA BE ENGAGING. THAT'S IT. TWO MORE PARTNERS. THREE MORE. AH, I APOLOGIZE. IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MINE. EVERYBODY STANDS LIKE THIS. AND THEN HOLD YOUR THING LIKE THIS. SEE WHAT SHE SAYING? NICE SMILES. GREAT. THANK. ALL RIGHT. UH, SO THANK YOU SUPERVISOR FINER AND TO THE BOARD. UM, ON BEHALF OF MY COLLEAGUES AT WHITE PLAINS HOSPITAL AND THE CENTER FOR CANCER CARE, I'D LIKE TO THANK MARIA REGINA HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS, FACULTY, ADMIN, AND ADMINISTRATORS WHO MADE THIS GENEROUS GIFT POSSIBLE. WE LIKE TO SAY IT TAKES THE COMMUNITY TO CARE FOR ONE, AND TOGETHER WE CAN HAVE EVEN GREATER POSITIVE IMPACT THE SUPPORT OF THE MARIA REGINA COMMUNITY IN THE FIGHT AGAINST CANCER, AND AMPLIFYING OUR MESSAGE ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF CANCER SCREENING. AND EARLY DETECTION HAS THE POWER TO SAVE LIVES BECAUSE OF YOUR GENEROSITY AND THAT AND NET OF OTHERS. WHITE PLAINS HOSPITAL IS ABLE TO CONTINUE TO GROW MANY SUPPORTIVE SERVICES SUCH AS TRANSPORTATION SUPPORT, HELPING PATIENTS GET TO TREATMENT, GENETIC COUNSELING FOR THOSE WHO MAY NOT HAVE INSURANCE COVERAGE FOR IT, ART THERAPY, CANCER NAVIGATION SERVICES, AND MUCH, MUCH MORE, UM, TO HELP PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. UH, ALL THESE SERVICES COMPLEMENT OUR ADVANCED CARE, UM, AND REALLY ARE INVALUABLE, AND THEY'RE BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU. AND I'M SO IMPRESSED. UM, I'M SO HONORED THAT YOU GUYS CHOSE US, AND TRULY, TRULY, YOU'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. UM, SO THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR SUPPORT AND JUST FOR EVERYONE TO KNOW, UM, THAT WHITE PLAINS HOSPITAL IS HERE IF YOU NEED US. SO THANK YOU, . AND NOW, BECAUSE OF HERE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PUT OTHER SCHOOLS TO SHAME, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MAKE THEM RAISE MORE MONEY FOR SUPER THE HOSPITAL. RIGHT? THAT'S SUPER IMPRESSIVE, WHAT YOU'VE DONE. SO COULD BE A ROLE MODEL AND AN INSPIRATION FOR OTHERS TO, UH, TO DO WHAT, WHAT YOU DID. SO YOU REALLY ARE TERRIFIC AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE [00:10:01] WHAT YOU'VE DONE. SO THANK YOU. A HUNDRED PERCENT. THANK YOU. RIGHT? I NOTICED THAT. GREAT. NEXT ON THE LIST, I'M SORRY, WE NEED GO OVER DESCRIPTION OF THIS. YEAH. GREAT. WE'LL JUST WAIT ONE SECOND. SURE. UM, WE ARE, UH, SO FORTUNATE, UM, EVERYBODY IN TOWN GOVERNMENT KNOWS COLBY JENKINS. 'CAUSE COLBY HAS DONE AN ENORMOUS JOB, A REALLY POSITIVE JOB OVER THE YEARS, HELPING PEOPLE AND GIVING OF HER TIME AND EFFORTS, MAKING THE COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, A BETTER PLACE. AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU, UH, YOU REALLY INSPIRE A LOT OF PEOPLE TO DO, UH, YOU KNOW, GREAT THINGS. AND COLBY, UM, INTRODUCED US TO THE YOUTH SHELTER OF WESTCHESTER. THE YOUTH SHELTER OF WESTCHESTER IS A PIONEER IN PROVIDING ALTERNATIVES TO INCARCERATION FOR YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED IN CRIM THE CRIMINAL, LEGAL, UH, SYSTEM. UH, WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THE YOUTH SHELTER OF WESTCHESTER AND PROVIDES PEOPLE WITH A SECOND CHANCE. UM, AND IT'S BEEN VERY, VERY, UH, YOU KNOW, SUCCESSFUL. THE RESIDENTIAL PROGRAM IS OPERATED THROUGH A 12 BED, UH, FACILITY THAT SERVES YOUNG MEN BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18 TO 24. THE MODEL IS UNIQUE IN ITS EMPHASIS ON TREATING THE WHOLE PERSON WITH A WIDE ARRAY OF SERVICES WITHIN A STRUCTURE OF DISCIPLINE AND ACCOUNTABILITY WITH AN OUTSTANDING RECORD OF REDUCING RECIDIVISM. UH, YSOW HAS DEMONSTRATED THAT ITS NON-TRADITIONAL APPROACH IS EFFECTIVE IN IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY, SAVING PUBLIC DOLLARS, AND REDEFINING THE LIVES OF YOUNG PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM. UM, UH, LEADERSHIP, EXCELLENT AND DEVELOPMENT ACADEMY. THEY SERVE YOUNG PEOPLE AGES 16 TO 25, WHO ARE COMING OUT OF INCAR INCARCERATION WITHIN THEIR FACILITY OR FROM OTHER CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY. LEAD ACADEMY OFFERS DIVERSIONARY PROGRAMS, SPECIAL COURT INITIATIVES, INTERVENTION, AND POST SUPPORT PROGRAMMING. ADDITIONALLY, THE CA ACADEMY PROVIDES VOCATIONAL TRAINING, SUBSTANCE ABUSE AND MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, A GED PROGRAM, TRAINING AND CONFLICT RESOLUTION AND VIOLENCE PREVENTION. AND THEY ALSO HAVE AN ARTS AND CULTURAL ENRICHMENT PROGRAM. PARTICIPANTS RECEIVE ONGOING CASE MANAGEMENT AND SUPPORT FOR A MINIMUM OF ONE YEAR TO ENSURE THEIR SUCCESSFUL REINTEGRATION INTO THE COMMUNITY ON LONG TERM, UH, SUCCESSES. YSLW UNDERSTANDS THE POWER OF RESTORATIVE JUSTICE. THEY BELIEVE IN GIVING YOUNG PEOPLE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE SEEN AS MORE THAN THEIR CRIME, BUT RATHER AS INDIVIDUALS AND SUPPORT NURTURING AND GUIDANCE TO RESHAPE THEIR, THEIR FUTURES. SO THE TOWN BOARD WE'RE DECLARING TODAY, DECEMBER 11TH AS A YOUTH SHELTER, UH, OF WESTCHESTER DAY IN GREENBURG. AND I'D LIKE TO, UM, UH, COMMEND, UM, UH, SOME OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED IN THIS PROGRAM. JOSEPH LANG YANG YELL, UH, FABIO PINTO. UM, DEVIN REED, PLEASE COME UP. UH, KARENS AND I HAVE PROCLAMATION. IT'S NOT SIGNED BY EVERYBODY. I'LL GIVE OUT, UH, THE PROCLAMATIONS AND IF YOU WANNA SAY A FEW WORDS. UM, I JUST WAS THINKING WHEN I MADE THIS PRESENTATION, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, MY HEROES AND HERO IN THIS TOWN WAS, UM, BILL CARTER. HE WAS COMMISSIONER AT THE THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER. AND, UM, I ALWAYS, SADLY, HE PASSED AWAY, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO. BUT I REMEMBER, UM, HIM TELLING ME ABOUT HIS LIFE. AND HE HAD, UM, AN ARREST RECORD. YOU KNOW, HE WAS HOMELESS, BUT HE BECAME COMMISSIONER AT, AT THE THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER. SO HE, UH, HE ASKED FOR A SECOND CHANCE. UM, HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST OUTSTANDING PEOPLE THAT I'VE EVER MET, UH, IN MY, IN MY LIFE. YOU KNOW, HE BASICALLY WAS ABLE TO RELATE TO PEOPLE AT EVERY SINGLE LEVEL. HE GOT PEOPLE, UM, YOU KNOW, DID HE JUST HELP PEOPLE? HE INSPIRED PEOPLE TO, UM, UH, TO DO THEIR BEST. SO WHEN I LOOK AT YOU, UH, YOU MAY HAVE HAD SOME [00:15:01] PROBLEMS IN YOUR LIFE IN THE PAST, BUT IN THE FUTURE, YOU HOPEFULLY WILL ALL BE GREAT SUCCESSES. AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT THE YOUTH SHELTER IS DOING IS GIVING YOU A CHANCE TO BECOME GREAT, JUST LIKE BILL CARTER WAS. UM, AND THERE'S SO MANY OTHERS. SO, UH, I WILL, UH, LOOK FORWARD TO FOLLOWING YOUR CAREERS WITH, WITH INTEREST. AND, YOU KNOW, I REALLY WISH ALL OF YOU THE BEST OF LUCK. SO THE FIRST PERSON IS JOSEPH. UH, AND IF YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING YOU CAN OR IF YOU COULD, THANK YOU. THAT'S GREAT. THAT, UH, UH, FABIO. GREAT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? SURE. UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK MS. COLBY FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. 'CAUSE IF IT WASN'T FOR HER, WE WOULDN'T BE HERE RIGHT NOW. AND I WANT TO THANK THAT YOU SHOW UP THERE. 'CAUSE YOU GAVE US A LOT OF OPPORTUNITIES TO BECOME A BETTER MAN. AND I WANT TO THANK YOU TOO FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. COULD YOU MENTION WHAT, UH, YOU DID WITH, UH, MR. JENKINS? WE WENT TO A SENIOR RESIDENT AND HELPED THE ELDERS WITH REAKFAST AND WHATEVER THEY NEED, BASICALLY. SO I JUST WANT TO THANK HER FOR THAT. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. UH, DEVIN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? UM, ON BEHALF OF THE YOUTH SHELTER, WE WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR, UM, GIVING US THESE CERTIFICATES AND NOTICING US, AND WE'RE TRYING REAL HARD TO, UM, BE BETTER PER BE BETTER PEOPLE. AND SO WHEN WE GO BACK HOME, WE COULD DO WAY BETTER IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, AS YOU KNOW, WE ARE A YOUNG MAN AND WE ARE THE FUTURE, SO WE'RE GONNA DO WHATEVER IT TAKES TO BE BETTER. AND, UM, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. AND KAREN, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? I'D LIKE TO THANK THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND AS WELL THE YOUTH SHELTER AND MS. COLBY FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY AND FOR AWARDING US WITH THESE CERTIFICATES. WE PLAN ON BETTERING OURSELF, AS YOU SAID, AND COMING BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY MAKING A DIFFERENCE INSTEAD OF WHATEVER IT WAS THAT WE WAS INCARCERATED FOR. WE DON'T LET THAT DEFINE US. AND, AND DEN WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? THANK YOU. WELL, THANK YOU. WE ALSO HAVE THE CERTIFICATE, PROCLAMATION FROM THE TOWN BOARD. UH, UH, IS THERE A REPRESENTATIVE OF, UH, THE YOUTH SHELTER WHO WOULD LIKE, WHO WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION? THANK YOU. THERE ARE TWO MEMBERS WHO WERE UNABLE TO SIGN. UM, SO ACTUALLY IF YOU WANNA LEAVE IT WITH US TO SIGN AND WE CAN GET IT TO YOU. OKAY. WITH ALL THEIR SIGNATURES. THAT'S FINE. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE YOUTH SHELTER? MY NAME IS VICKI DAK. I'M THE SOCIAL WORKER AT THE YOUTH SHELTER AT WESTCHESTER. AND, UM, IT WAS DEFINITELY A CALLING TO WORK WITH THESE YOUNG MEN AND TO SEE WHERE THEY STARTED TO WHERE THEY ARE TODAY. UM, IT'S DEFINITELY A BLESSING AND DEFINITELY, AND THIS 20, 24 YEAR, I'M GRATEFUL FOR WORKING WITH THEM. UM, BEING A SOCIAL WORKER IS A CALLING, BUT COMING TO WORK EVERY DAY AND SEEING THE YOUNG MEN AND, YOU KNOW, FORGETTING, YOU KNOW, WHAT GOES ON BEFORE YOU COME TO WORK, BUT KNOWING THAT WHEN YOU COME AND YOU SEE THEM, THAT THEY'RE OUR FUTURE. THEY'RE OUR YOUNG MEN, AND WE WANT THEM TO KNOW THAT, UM, 15 YEARS FROM NOW, 20 YEARS FROM NOW, THE YOUTH SHELTER WILL STILL BE HERE FOR THEM AND THEY'VE BECOME A PART OF OUR FAMILY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. YOU WORK GREAT. YOU SAY ANYTHING? I DIDN'T EXPECT TO CRY TONIGHT. UM, ME NEITHER. , FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO GIVE ALL GLORY TO GOD BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT BELONGS AND THAT'S WHERE IT'S RICHLY DESERVED AT. UM, I WANT TO THANK THIS BOARD. I WANT TO THANK YOU, PAUL. I WANT TO THANK THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS FOR SEEING THE VISION. FRANCIS, I SEE YOU THERE, FRANCIS. GOD BLESS YOU. WE LOVE YOU AND WE MISS YOU. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN I COME UP WITH THESE DIFFERENT THINGS AND INITIATIVES TO DO IN THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME PEOPLE SAY, OH, CALL ME SOMETHING, BUT I, I DO IT BECAUSE OF THE LOVE OF THE COMMUNITY. I DO IT, DO IT BECAUSE OF THE LOVE OF BRINGING PEOPLE TOGETHER IN THE COMMUNITY FROM ALL WALKS OF LIFE. I'VE BRING PEOPLE TO GREENBURG, I'VE INVITED PEOPLE TO COME TO GREENBURG, THE CREAM OF THE CROP, UM, TO COME HERE AND TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON. AND PEOPLE ARE EVER SO PLEASED WHEN THEY COME TO THE TOWN, WHEN THEY COME TO THE CENTER AND THEY COME PLACES. AND THIS YOUTH SHELTER OF WESTCHESTER, YOU YOUNG MEN HAVE REALLY NOT JUST POURED INTO ME AND MY ORGANIZATION COMING [00:20:01] TO HELP ME OUT, BUT YOU HAVE POURED INTO YOUR OWN COMMUNITIES WHERE YOU ARE IN MOUNT VERNON. LIKE, IT'S NOT, IF YOU GO TO YOUR FACEBOOK AND THEIR INSTAGRAM AND SEE THE WORK THAT THESE YOUNG MEN ARE DOING, WHAT THEY DID FOR ME AND WHAT THEY, NOT JUST FOR ME, BUT FOR THE SENIORS AT THE CENTER FOR THE SENIOR CITIZEN BREAKFAST, WAS JUST TOUCHING THE SURFACE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY FREELY DO FROM THEIR HEARTS. WHERE I, SOMETIME I MAY STRUGGLE TO TELL MY SON TO WASH THE DISHES. I, THESE YOUNG MEN WERE CLEANING THE STOVE AT THE CENTER. THEY WERE MAKING SURE EVERY SENIOR HAD THEIR BREAKFAST. THEY MADE SURE THAT EVERY SENIOR HAD A RAFFLE, EVERY SENIOR, ANYTHING. THEY DIDN'T HAVE TO MOVE. AND, AND I JUST WANNA TELL YOU ALL, YOU ALL ARE A FORCE TO BE RECKONED WITH. GOD IS SHOWING UP AND HE'S SHOWING OUT IN YOUR LIVES, AND IT IS SHOWING YOU ARE GLOWING AND YOU ARE GLEANING, AND, AND PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SEE AND ALWAYS REMEMBER, LET THE WORK THAT YOU DO SPEAK FOR YOU BECAUSE IT IS SPEAKING ON TONIGHT. SO I AM EVER SO PROUD OF THIS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE YOUTH SHELTER OF WESTCHESTER AND JOANNE DUNN AND HER TEAM AND JORDAN AND THE REST OF THEM. I THANK GOD FOR THE INTRODUCTION OF THEM. TASHA YOUNG ACTUALLY INTRODUCED ME TO JOANNE DUNN, AND IT HAS BEEN, UH, UH, A LASTING LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP AND AND COLLABORATION EVER SINCE. AND IT'S NOT BEEN A TIME THAT I HAVE LOOKED TO THESE YOUNG MEN TO ASK THEM TO DO SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE NOT WILLING TO DO UNLESS THEY WERE ALREADY, UM, BOOKED ON DOING SOMETHING ELSE. SO I JUST WANNA TELL YOU, YOUNG MEN, YOU MAY THINK THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WHAT YOU HAVE DONE HAS BROUGHT YOU TO THIS PLACE. BUT IT WAS FOR SUCH A TIME AS THIS THAT SOMEONE CAN SEE HOW YOU ALL ARE TURNING YOUR LIVES AROUND. THIS IS BIG TIME. THIS IS, THIS IS, THIS IS BEYOND SOME PEOPLE'S IMAGINATIONS. SO EYES HAVE NOT SEEN, EARS HAVE NOT HEARD WHAT GOD HAS IN STORE FOR YOU. YOU, YOU AND ESPECIALLY YOU. SO MAY GOD CONTINUE TO BLESS YOU ALL AGAIN. THANK YOU FOR BESTOWING THIS HONOR THAT IS A WELL-DESERVED HONOR ONTO THESE YOUTH. AND THIS IS A PART OF OUR YOUTH INITIATIVES AT DARE TO BE DIFFERENT, WESTCHESTER, WHERE THESE YOUNG MEN ARE ALL NARCAN TRAINED ALSO THROUGH OUR ORGANIZATION, DARE TO BE DIFFERENT, WESTCHESTER. SO WE DIDN'T JUST STOP WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE ALSO GONNA COME BACK, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE CPR TRAINED, MAKE SURE THAT THEY ALL HAVE THEIR DEFENSIVE DRIVING. SO THESE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING AND WE'RE COLLABORATING AND WE ARE NOT JUST BUILDING A BETTER FUTURE FOR DARE TO BE DIFFERENT WESTCHESTER AND OTHER, UM, COMMUNITIES. BUT WE'RE BUILDING A FUTURE FOR NOT JUST MY CHILDREN, BUT FOR OUR CHILDREN'S CHILDREN TO COME. SO THEN AGAIN, THANK YOU, THANK YOU FOR YOU ALL ARE INSPIRATION. YOU ALL ARE INSPIRATION. THIS IS REALLY A PROGRAM THAT SHOULD BE REPLICATED. AND YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY SO INSPIRED BY YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU'VE DONE AND WHAT THE SHELTER DOES. AND I'D LIKE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH YOU AND IN THE FUTURE, UH, SO YOU COULD HAVE MORE SUCCESSES BECAUSE WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR PROGRAMS THAT ARE SUCCESSFUL. AND, UM, THE MORE SUCCESS YOU HAVE, THE MORE IT WILL ENABLE US TO COME UP WITH OTHER MODELS AND, AND REPLICATE IT AND, YOU KNOW, AND, YOU KNOW, HAVE MORE AND MORE SUCCESS STORIES. SO ONE DAY IF ONE OF YOU BECOMES COMMISSIONER OR A US SENATOR OR A GOVERNOR, UH, YOU COULD TELL US THAT YOU REMEMBER SHOWING UP AT A GREENBURG TOWN BOARD MEETING. THAT'S RIGHT. THANK YOU YOUNG MEN. THANK YOU. YOU WELL DESERVED. AND THANK YOU JOANNE DUNN AND THANK YOU YOU YOUTH SHELTER OF WESTCHESTER, UM, COLBY JENKINS ASCRIBES, THE WORK THAT SHE'S DONE IN SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS TO A HIGHER BEING, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE TOO. SO COLBY DID, AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU DO AND FOR THE YOUTH SHELTER. CAN WE ALL GET A PICTURE WITH THEM FIRST? YEAH, SURE. LET ME JUST FINISH SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY HARD TO REINVENT YOURSELF. I TRY TO DO IT ALL THE TIME FOR MYSELF AND IT'S HARD TO STAY THE COURSE, BUT YOU'VE MADE A GREAT, GREAT CONTRIBUTION AND SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE VERY PROUD OF. STICK WITH IT. AND YOU WILL, AS THE SUPERVISOR SAID, BE OUR NEXT, UH, SENATORS AND OUR NEXT SUPERVISORS. YES. GET TELL 'EM TO WATCH OUT. OH, WATCH OUT. WATCH OUT WORLD. LIKE JUST GETTING STARTED. WE ALSO HAD A OPPORTUNITY TO HONOR ONE OF THE YOUNG MEN, MEN WHO DARE TO BE DIFFERENT, DIEGO. AND HE WAS ABLE TO GET A SCHOLARSHIP FOR COLLEGE. OH, THAT'S WONDERFUL. ALSO A LAPTOP. BUT MOREOVER, HIS RECORD WAS EXPUNGED. HE GOT HIS GED AND HE'S ON HIS WAY TO BECOMING A POLICE OFFICER. CONGRATULATIONS. NOW CONGRATULATIONS. NOW THAT'S A MAN WHO DARESS TO BE DIFFERENT. THAT'S FANTASTIC, [00:25:36] COLBY. YEP. GUYS GONNA MAKE A FOR THESE TWO. CONGRAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU, CONGRAT. THANK YOU. SEE GUYS, CONGRATULATIONS. YOU'RE AN AMAZING PERSON. SO DO IT. YOU DO IT EVERY WHICH WAY. THAT WAS BEAUTIFUL. THANK YOU. IT REALLY WAS. THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK, LISA. YOU'RE WELCOME BABY. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. VERY WELCOME. VERY WELCOME. OKAY, UM, NEXT, UH, [ SUPERVISOR & TOWN COUNCIL REPORTS/ANNOUNCEMENTS GOOD NEWS...The Town continues (since 2008) to have the highest possible bond rating from Standard & Poors (AAA) and (since 2010) (Aaa) from Moody's. Less than 1% of communities in the nation have this record of financial stability. Most recently, on November 21, 2024, Moody's reaffirmed the Town of Greenburgh earned Moody's highest rating (Aaa) and Standard & Poors also reaffirmed the Town again earned Standard & Poors highest rating (AAA). Anyone interested in serving on a board or commission should send a resume to the Town Board via Lisa Maria Nero, Town Clerk, 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Any individual or group interested in a visit from the Town Board should email the Board at TownBoard@GreenburghNY.com ] LISA, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NOT AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. [ To consider the Town of Greenburgh’s 2025 Operating Budget and 2025 Recommended Capital Budget and 2026 and 2027 Capital Plan] UH, SO NOW WE HAVE, UH, A PUBLIC HEARING. THE FIRST HEARING IS ON, UM, THE OPERATING BUDGET AND RECOMMENDED CAPITAL BUDGET AND 2026 AND 2027 CAPITAL, UH, PLAN. UM, AND, UM, THE SLIP SHEETS, UH, SOME CHANGES AND, UM, AND THE BUDGET HAVE BEEN, UM, UM, PREPARED BY THE CONTROLLER. UM, WOULD DO LIKE TO JUST GIVE A SHORT SUMMARY OF THE SUPERVISOR, IF YOU COULD OPEN THE HEARING. I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT IT IS 10 MINUTES PER SPEAKER FOR THIS HEARING ONLY TONIGHT. BUT IF YOU COULD OPEN THE HEARING PLEASE, SUPERVISOR. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN UP THE HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OKAY, GREAT. HELLO. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. SO WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CHANGES. UM, THERE WERE SOME RECLASSIFICATIONS OF SALARY ITEMS WITH ZERO IMPACT TO THE BUDGET, AND THOSE ITEMS WERE MOVED TO A CONTINGENCY LINE TO BE REVIEWED. IN THE FIRST OF THE YEAR, WE ADDED 45,000 FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT. WE INCREASED THE INTEREST INCOME PREVIOUSLY THAT WAS UNDER BUDGETED BY $2 MILLION IN THE BEEF FUND. WE ADJUSTED VARIOUS BENEFITS IN MULTIPLE FUNDS BASED ON HISTORICAL COMPARISON AND TRENDS. WE TOOK A SECOND LOOK AT THAT. THAT WOULD BE WITH THE MEDICAL INSURANCE. AND WE REMOVED $1 MILLION FROM CAPITAL IN PAVING PROJECTS. THE TAX RATES REMAIN THE SAME. THE APPROPRIATION FROM THE FUND BALANCE WENT DOWN. A FUND IS THE SAME AND THE B FUND WENT DOWN BY APPROXIMATELY $2 MILLION. AND THAT'S DUE TO THE INTEREST INCOME. OKAY. UH, WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE BUDGET? YES. HOLD ON. MR. WALTER STEIN. UH, GOOD EVENING, UH, SUPERVISOR, FINER OUR MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD. IT WON'T BE 10 MINUTES, IT'S VERY SHORT. UH, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A CONSERVATION, UH, UM, CONSERV, UH, GARRETT AND HIS DEPARTMENT, UH, WORK VERY HARD. UH, AARON, MATT, THEY HAVE DO, THEY DO A WONDERFUL JOB IN THAT DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY ARE STRESSED AND, AND EVEN LEGISLATION THAT'S BEING PROPOSED LATER ON, THEY'LL BE GIVEN MORE RESPONSIBILITY. AT THE SAME TIME, YOU USED TO HAVE [00:30:01] A FORESTRY AGENT FOR THE, FOR THE DEPARTMENT, AND HE RETIRED. NOW THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE NOW BEING SHIPPED BACK AS I UNDERSTAND IT, TO, UH, HE'S BEING REPLACED. WELL THEN YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION. GOOD. THAT WAS A VERY FAST 10 MINUTES. IT WAS SO EFFICIENT. THANK YOU. , UH, DEPOSITION WAS FUNDED. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'VE HIRED ANYBODY YET. NO, BUT, BUT IT WAS FUNDED. YES, THERE WILL BE A REPLACEMENT. UH, NEXT ON THE BUDGET WE HAVE HAL SAMIS. WELL, I'M AT A DISADVANTAGE HERE BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE SLIP SHEET HAD BEEN EMAILED ME DURING THE DAY. UH, AND I'M JUST LOOKING AT IT NOW. UM, AND MAYBE THERE WON'T BE THAT MANY VARIANCES BETWEEN WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT. START WITH THE CAPITAL BUDGET, BECAUSE THAT'S THE EASIEST ONE. WHAT I DON'T SEE THERE, CORRECT ME IF IT'S CHANGED, IS THE $135,000 RELATIVE TO CONSULTING WORK FOR A NEW POLICE AND COURT COURTHOUSE. UM, HOW WOULD YOU JUST HOPE PUT THE MICROPHONE A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU? THANKS. WHAT'S NOT IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET, AT LEAST THE COPY I HAVE IS 135,000 THAT YOU HAVE ON THE RESOLUTIONS TONIGHT, BUT WE'LL PASS SOME TIME IN 2025. SO WHERE ARE YOU GONNA FUND THAT ROADWAY? RESURFACING. THIS IS THE BIG SURPRISE OF THE WORK SESSION. UM, IT SEEMS THAT IF I HEARD EVERYTHING CORRECTLY, STANDARD POOR IS GETTING A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE DEBT LOAD THAT WE'RE CARRYING. AND THEREFORE, MR. FINER WENT TO PUBLIC WORKS AND SHAVED A MILLION DOLLARS OFF THAT YOU SPEND 20 MINUTES A HALF HOUR IN YOUR WORK SESSIONS TALKING ABOUT $12,000 IN POSTAGE AND A MILLION DOLLARS. DOESN'T THAT STRIKE YOU AS A RATHER LARGE NUMBER, WHICH IS EXPENDABLE BECAUSE MR. F SAYS IT WON'T PRESENT ANY PROBLEMS. BEAR IN MIND THAT THAT ROADWAY, RESURFACING AND CURBS OF WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARTED AT AS 6,000,005 IN 2024, YOU SPENT ZERO. SO DOESN'T IT SEEM ODD THAT YOU CAN REDUCE A BUDGET LINE BY A MILLION DOLLARS AND IT DOESN'T AFFECT ANYTHING? DOES IT MEAN POSSIBLY THAT WHAT WENT IN ON BUDGET LINES ORIGINALLY WAS ALL BOGUS AND WE'RE BORROWING MONEY THAT UNNECESSARILY AND STANDARD AND POOR HAS TO COME ALONG AND POINT OUT THE ERROR OF OUR WAYS? ALSO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T SEE VERY CLEAR EXPLANATION HERE BECAUSE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT AND INSTALLATION OLD ARMY ROAD TOWN'S PORTION IS 68,000 AND NO WOOD ROAD, THE TOWN'S PORTION IS $60,000 FOR A SIDEWALK FROM HILLSIDE AVENUE WITH TWO BUS STOPS INTO TOWN HALL, YOU'RE SPENDING NOTHING. PEDESTRIAN SAFETY MEANS WALK IN THE ACTIVE DRIVEWAY. SO DON'T YOU THINK THAT SHOULD BE IN A PUBLIC, UH, IN A BUDGET SIDEWALK? I THINK THAT IN THE GENERAL SENSE IS WHERE I AM ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET BECAUSE WHO AM I TO JUDGE THE NEEDS OF THESE, EACH OF THESE DEPARTMENTS. HOWEVER, THE OPERATING BUDGET, I FIND A LOT MORE INTERESTING. AND I SEE THERE'S ONE CHANGE ALREADY IN THE SLIP SHEET, AND I FOUND IT KIND OF AMUSING BECAUSE THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I BROUGHT TO THEIR ATTENTION A MONTH AGO. AND THAT HAS TO DO WITH A CONTINGENT ACCOUNT. A CONTINGENT ACCOUNT IS FUNDING FOR UNANTICIPATED EXPENSES. THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOU THINK A CONTINGENCY IS. SO IN THE AID BUDGET, IN THE ORIGINAL, IT WAS ON PAGE 24, $700,000. IN 2023, IT LOOKS LIKE FOR 2024, IT'S GONNA BE A SPEND EXPENDITURE OF 1,000,440 1000. [00:35:02] AND PROJECTED AT THAT TIME FOR 2025 WAS $700,000. WE'RE GONNA HAVE A LOT LESS CONTINGENCIES APPARENTLY IN THE BUDGET. AND IT'S SHOWING ON THE SLIP SHEET THAT I THINK WE'RE GOING UP TO 725,000 FROM 700. MIND YOU, YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT YOUR BIG BENEFACTOR IN, IN, IN TAXES IS REGENERON AND YOU ALREADY KNOW THEY'RE SPENDING LESS. WE'RE GONNA HAVE LESS FEES COMING IN. SO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN GUARANTEED MONEY AND CONTINGENCY SEEMS TO BE OPERATING INVERSELY IN THE B BUDGET. ON PAGE TWO, ON PAGE 55, YOU SPENT 2,000,005. 2023, YOU'RE FAVORING 5 MILLION, 65,000 FOR 2024. AND IN 2025 YOU'RE PROJECTING 3,000,004. SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE CONTINGENCIES IN GREENBURG. AND WHY ARE YOU PROJECTING IT THIS WAY? BECAUSE YOU NEED TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. SO WHETHER IT MAKES SENSE OR NOT, THE NEED TO SHOW THE PUBLIC YOU ARE BALANCING A BUDGET IS PREFERENTIAL TO ACTUALLY REALLY DEALING WITH CIRCUMSTANCES AS THEY EXIST. IN FACT, EVERYTHING THAT'S PRESENTED TO THE PUBLIC IN THE BOOKS AND UP THROUGH TODAY ISN'T WORTH ANYTHING IN REALITY BECAUSE THOSE NUMBERS WILL CHANGE. YOU AS A BOARD ARE GOING TO CHANGE SOME OF THOSE NUMBERS TOO. THE PUBLIC HAS WILL NOT SEE WHAT YOU'VE CHANGED AND YET THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA VOTE ON. SO THE REALITY IS, WHAT I THINK YOU ARE DOING IN THESE BUDGETS IS THE MONEY THAT COMES INTO THE TOWN AS REVENUE IN A CURRENT YEAR IS REALLY NOT FUNDING THE EXPENSES OF THE CURRENT YEAR, BUT IT'S PUTTING MONEY BACK INTO THE FUND BALANCES, WHICH IS THE TRUE SOURCE OF REVENUE TO BALANCE THE BUDGET. WHEN I SAY TRUE SOURCE, THE THINGS THAT WE CAN'T HIDE ABOUT ARE LIKE TAXES AND SALES TAX AND ALL THOSE THINGS WHICH ARE ACCURATE TO SOME DEGREE AND THERE, WHICH WE HAVE VERY LITTLE CONTROL OVER. BUT EVERY YEAR YOU NOTICE THAT WE HAVE A SUBSTANTIAL INFUSION OF MONEY FROM FUND BALANCE. HOW COME THE FUND BALANCE NEVER RUNS DOWN TO ZERO BECAUSE YOU'RE PUTTING MONEY BACK. SO BASICALLY WE'RE CARRYING A SEVEN TO $10 MILLION DEFICIT OFF THE BOOKS, WHICH WE ARE NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE UP BECAUSE YOU HAVE ANY EXCESSES OF MONIES THAT YOU'VE CREATED BY OVERTAXING AND YOU'RE USING THAT SURPLUS TO REPLACE THE FUND BALANCE, WHICH JANUARY ONE YOU'RE GONNA EXTRACT AGAIN TO MEET YOUR OPERATING EXPENSES FOR THE YEAR. PUBLIC DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THIS AND I DON'T THINK YOU DO EITHER. NOW KIMBERLY IS NEW, GIVE HER A LOT OF LEEWAY. SHE STATES A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION COMING IN HERE, NOT EVEN A YEAR, A FULL YEAR. AND SHE'S FACED WITH A BUDGETS B, BUDGETS B CONSOLIDATION OF TWO CAPITAL BUDGETS AND OPERATING BUDGETS AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF SYSTEMS. BUT YOU KNOW, AT THE WORK SESSION, IF I WERE SITTING UP THERE AND WAS LISTENING TO WHAT WAS SAID, I WOULD'VE FAINTED WHEN KIMBERLY ANSWERED WHAT'S A SLIP SHEET THAT CONCERNS ME? BECAUSE WHAT A SLIP SHEET IS FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW, IT'S WHAT WE HAVE TODAY FROM OUT OF THAT WORK SESSION. THESE ARE THE CHANGES ALLEGEDLY TO WHAT HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN PUBLISHED AS BUDGET INFORMATION. AND THEY CONTAIN A LOT OF THINGS. ONE OF THE ERRORS WOULD BE MR. FINDER'S DEPARTMENT. NOW, NOW IF YOU LOOK IN THE TENTATIVE PRELIMINARY BUDGET, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, YOU SEE THAT HIS DEPARTMENTAL SALARY EXPENSES ARE [00:40:01] A NUMBER 400 SOMETHING PLUS. WELL, THAT'S A LOT MORE THAN THE SALARIES FOR LAST YEAR AND HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH 3% INCREASES. IT HAS TO DO WITH $175,000. AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STILL IN THAT LINE BECAUSE OF THE WORK SESSION. YOU TALKED ABOUT MOVING IT TO TOWN COUNCIL, BUT THE WAY IT WAS DESCRIBED IN THE BOOK WAS A ONE OF THE STATE NUMBERING SYSTEMS THAT DE DEFINES EACH BUDGET LINE. THE $175,000 GOES IN THAT LINE, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK ON THAT PAGE, THAT LINE DOESN'T EXIST BECAUSE IT'S $175,000 HIDDEN WITHIN THE UH, UH, EXPENSES. THE ONLY WAY YOU FIND ABOUT THE 175,000 IS YOU GO TO THE BACK OF THE BOOK AND YOU LOOK AT THE POSITIONS REPORT. NOW IS ANYONE ELSE SPEAKING? NO ONE ELSE IS. UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE BUDGET DURING THIS HEARING? NO OTHER. SO CAN WE MOVE TO A SECOND ROUND SINCE WE ARE CLOSING TONIGHT, AND I ASSUME MR. SAMIS, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK IN THE SECOND ROUND? CORRECT. OKAY. IF YOU COULD START THE CLOCK PLEASE. IS IT A FIVE MINUTE OR A 10 MINUTE? 10 MINUTE, 10 MINUTES COPY. ANOTHER THING THAT'S FICTIONAL IN THE BUDGET, THE OPERATING BUDGET IS THE POSITIONS REPORTS I'VE ASKED, AND MAYBE I DIDN'T ASK SOON ENOUGH, BUT IT'S INFORMATION I THINK THAT THE OFFICE OF THE TOWN COMPTROLLER SHOULD HAVE IS HOW MANY OF THOSE POSITIONS ARE ACTUALLY BEING FILLED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE PAYING TAXES AS THOUGH THEY WERE. AND I SUSPECT LOOKING THROUGH IT, THERE'S A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF POSITIONS THAT ARE NOT BEING FAILED. NOT BECAUSE THERE'S NO ONE AVAILABLE, BUT BECAUSE THERE'S NO INTENTION. SO IF YOU CREATE A BOGUS LINE OF EXPENSE, YOU WILL END UP COLLECTING MORE MONEY THAN YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SPENDING AND TAXPAYERS ARE FUNDING IT. THE WHOLE PROBLEM OF OVERTAXING IS THAT THE TOWN IS USING THE EXTRA MONEY THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE COLLECTING TO PUT IN ITS SAVINGS ACCOUNT. AND WERE I A TAXPAYER, I'D RATHER HAVE THAT MONEY FOR A YEAR IN MY SAVINGS ACCOUNT. SO WHILE WE ALWAYS STAYED WITHIN THE TAX CAP, THAT'S GREAT PR AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF. THE REALITY IS, AND AND IT'S DEMONSTRATED BY THE FACT THAT THE FUND BALANCE NEVER RUNS DRY. IT'S FROM EXCESS FUNDS COLLECTED FROM TAXPAYERS. DOESN'T THAT DISTURB ANYONE? SO ANYWAY, MR. FEER WANTS THIS POSITION IN HIS DEPARTMENT OR WE'RE MOVING IT TO THE TOWN COUNCIL, WHATEVER. WHEN MR. FEER DESCRIBED WHAT THE OPERATION MANAGER DOES, WHEN HE SAID IT AT THE WORK SESSION, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT WAS THE JOB OF THE TOWN SUPERVISOR. BUT YOU KNOW, HE NEEDS HELP BECAUSE HE ALREADY HAS A CONFIDENTIAL SECRETARY WHO IS EARNING $92,000. UH, MR. FINER IS EARNING 179,000. THE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE EARNING 39,700 IN 2025. BUT THAT'S NOT THE FULL STORY, AS YOU WILL ALL KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S A RULE IN ACCOUNTING WHERE THERE ARE EXTRA COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH PAYING SALARIES LIKE MEDICARE, SOCIAL SECURITY CONTRIBUTION, THE INSURANCE THAT YOU ALL HAVE. SO WITH MR. FINERS 179,000 IN 2025, USING THE LOW RANGE NUMBER OF 30%, THE RANGE IS REALLY 30 TO 35%. WHAT TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR IS $232,700 TO KEEP HIM IN OFFICE. IT IS CONFIDENTIAL SECRETARY, IT'S COSTING TAXPAYERS 120,000 AND THE TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS 51,600. MEANWHILE, OUR POOR TOWN CLERK OVER THERE IS EARNING 103,000, ONLY 5,000 MORE THAN MR. FINDER'S SECRETARY. SHE SUPERVISES AN OFFICE OF THREE PEOPLE PLUS HERSELF, THE TOWN [00:45:01] CONFIDENTIAL SECRETARY SUPERVISORS, NO ONE. SO I THINK IF WE HAVE ALL THIS EXTRA MONEY AROUND, THE ONE POSITION THAT IS ENTITLED TO IT IS THE TOWN CLERK. AND IF YOU WERE TO LOOK AT THE POSITIONS REPORT, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WHEN I PLOW THROUGH THE BUDGET, I'M LOOKING AT ALL THE FAMILIAR POSITIONS, FAMILIAR DEPARTMENTS. FIRST TIME I LOOK FURTHER AND I ADVISE YOU ALL TO LOOK BECAUSE THE 3% SALARY INCREASES THAT MOST OF YOU ARE GETTING, BY THE WAY, MRS. FINER SECRETARY IS GETTING A 6% INCREASE. EVERYONE ELSE IS GETTING 3%. BUT IF YOU LOOK IN THE BACK OF THE BOOK, PARDON ME, THAT'S BEEN REMOVED. THE WHAT THAT'S BEEN REMOVED. OKAY, GREAT. UM, SO WE'RE BACK TO THE 120,000 BASED UPON, OKAY, UM, ALL THOSE POSITION REPORTS, ENORMOUS INCREASES, BUT WHETHER THEY'RE ACTUALLY BEING FILLED IS UP TO SOMEONE ELSE WHO IS MORE PRESCIENT OF WHAT'S GOING ON. SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, AND IT SHOULD BE EASY ENOUGH FOR THE TOWN COMPTROLLER TO DO, IS FIND OUT WHAT PERCENT OF THE PAYROLL IS REAL. I THINK THE PUBLIC IS ENTITLED TO KNOW THAT, OH YES. THE THE IMAGINARY BUDGET LINE THAT YOU HAVE FOR, UH, THE OPERATIONS DIRECTOR IS 5 4 5 0 3. THERE'S NO 5 4 0 3 IN THAT DEPARTMENT. UM, ACTUALLY BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, WHICH I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT'S STILL ACCURATE OR NOT BECAUSE JUST GOT THIS, I'M NOT GONNA REFUSE THE EXTRA FULL TENS AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING IT WHEN I REQUESTED IT. NO OTHER SPEAKERS. THEN I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR, UH, HOW MANY DAYS WE ARE VOTING ON MONDAY AT THE NEXT TOWN BOARD MEETING. SO LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN UNTIL SUNDAY NIGHT OR WHATEVER. OKAY. SUNDAY NIGHT. SUNDAY NIGHT. YEAH. OKAY. SUNDAY NIGHT. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AND WE'LL HAVE A, OUR NEXT MEETING IS ON MONDAY EVENING. THAT'S THE LAST MEETING OF THE YEAR. OKAY. NEXT [ To consider a Local Law which would Establish Accessory Dwelling Units as a Special Permit Use, with related updates to Sections 285-5, 285-10, 285-36, 285-38, and 285-39 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh [TB 23-09]] HEARING, UM, UH, HEARING TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW WHICH WOULD ESTABLISH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AS A SPECIAL PERMIT USE WITH RELATED UPDATES TO SECTION TWO EIGHTY FIVE FIVE TWO EIGHTY FIVE, TEN TWO EIGHTY FIVE, THIRTY SIX, TWO EIGHTY FIVE, THIRTY EIGHT, AND 2 85 39 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TB 2309. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT REOPEN THE HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR. FINER TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD. GARY , COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION. THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT IS A CONTINUATION OF THE HEARING HELD ON SEPTEMBER 25TH, 2024, RELATED TO A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, WHICH, WHICH SEEKS TO ALLOW AND REGULATE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS OR ADU IN THE ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICTS OF THE TOWN BY SPECIAL PERMIT APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING BOARD. THE UPDATED LOCAL LAW THAT SUPPORTS THE HEARING TONIGHT CONTAINS SOME PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS WHICH WERE DEMARCATED IN REN RED FONT ON THE DRAFT, SEVERAL OF WHICH ARE FROM THE PLANNING BOARD'S RECOMMENDATION. THE CHANGES REFLECTED IN THE UPDATED A DU LOCAL LAW ARE DESCRIBED AS FOLLOWS, INCLUSION OF A ONE TIME $4,320 RECREATION FEE FOR EACH NEW A DU INTO SECTION TWO 50 DASH 19 OF THE TOWN CODE CLARIFICATION THAT ADUS ARE ALSO SPECIAL PERMIT USES IN THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. ADDITION OF AN APPROVAL MECHANISM FOR ADUS TO BE APPROVED IN CONNECTION WITH FUTURE SUBDIVISION AND SITE PLAN APPLICATIONS THAT COME BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AT A NOT TO EXCEED RATE OF 20% OR TWO ON 10. RATE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION SUPPORTED THIS CONCEPT BUT ADVOCATED FOR A HIGHER DENSITY OF ONE THIRD OR 33% A DU ALLOWANCE. FOR ANYONE THAT MAY BE WONDERING IF THIS PROVISION WOULD APPLY RETROACTIVELY TO THE ELMWOOD SUBDIVISION OR OTHER APPROVED SUBDIVISIONS, THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO. IT WOULD APPLY ONLY TO SUBDIVISIONS FILED AFTER THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF AN APPROVED A DU LOCAL LAW IF THE TOWN BOARD SO CHOOSES [00:50:01] TO ULTIMATELY APPROVE SUCH SECTION FIVE OR THE ACCESS CRITERIA SECTION OF THE LAW WAS UPDATED TO GIVE APPROVAL FLEXIBILITY FOR EXISTING HOMES THAT ALREADY HAVE TWO FRONT DOORS. THIS WAS A PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDATION. SECTION EIGHT OWNER OCCUPANCY SECTION WAS UPDATED TO REFERENCE A COMMON OWNERSHIP CLAUSE. SECTION 15 WAS RENAMED TO NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER AND REFLECTS LANGUAGE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD RECOMMENDED PROVIDING THE PLANNING BOARD WITH MORE CLEAR DISCRETION TO DENY AN APPLICATION. SECTION 2 85 56 SITE PLAN EXEMPTIONS WAS UPDATED TO EXPRESSLY IDENTIFY THAT ADUS DO NOT REQUIRE SITE PLAN APPROVAL. MIND YOU THAT APPLICANTS WOULD STILL HAVE TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN, IT WOULD JUST BE SUBJECT TO SPECIAL PERMIT PAROLE, BUT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO GO THAT EXTRA STEP AND FILE FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. IN THE LAST CHANGE THAT I WANNA SPEAK OF, AND IT WAS MADE FOR THE LOCAL LAW IN ADVANCE OF TONIGHT, AN UPDATE ON THE USE, WHICH PREVIOUSLY SET A RANGE OF 400 TO 800 SQUARE FEET WITH A NOT TO EXCEED 30% OF EXISTING GROSS FLOOR AREA IS PROPOSED. THE PREVIOUS LOCAL LAW ALSO DID NOT DIFFERENTIATE SIZE PARAMETERS FOR ADUS THAT ARE INTERNAL TO A HOME VERSUS EXTERNAL. SO WE'VE MADE THOSE UPDATES AT THE DIRECTION OF THE TOWN BOARD. THE UPDATED SIZE PARAMETERS STILL RETAIN THE 400 TO 800 SQUARE FOOT RANGE FOR ADUS FOR IN INTERNAL TO A HOME. AND ADDITIONALLY ASSIGN A MAX 20% OF GROSS FLOOR AREA ALLOWANCE FOR ADUS EXTERNAL TO A HOME. THE UPDATED SIZE PARAMETERS STILL RETAIN THE 400 TO 800 SQUARE FOOT RANGE AND ADDITIONALLY, ADDITIONALLY ASSIGN A 30% GROSS FLOOR AREA RESTRICTION. SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? AS AN EXAMPLE, FOR A HOMEOWNER WITH A 2,500 SQUARE FOOT HOME, THIS 30% CONTROL WOULD ALLOW FOR A MAXIMUM 750 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED A DU AS OPPOSED TO THE OTHERWISE 800 SQUARE FOOT MAX. A MODEST DIFFERENCE, BUT THE RATIONALE FOR THIS TYPE OF CHANGE IS TO MINIMIZE THE HOME SIZE TO A DU SIZE RATIO, TO BETTER PRESERVE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, WHICH IS A CONCERN WE'VE HEARD FROM TOWN BOARD MEMBERS. IF THERE ARE OTHER CHANGES THAT THE TOWN BOARD SEEKS BASED ON ITS OBSERVATIONS BASED ON THE PUBLIC IN INPUT THAT WE HEAR TONIGHT, I'M HERE TO LISTEN AND ASSIST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, YOUR COMMISSIONER. AND JUST A REMINDER, BEFORE THE CLERK CALLS, THE FIRST SPEAKER THIS HEARING IS TO OUR REGULAR RULES, FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON, AND THERE WILL BE NO SECOND ROUND UNLESS WE'RE ADJOURNING THE HEARING TONIGHT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER ON THE ADUS IS WALTER SIMON. UH, THANK YOU AGAIN. UM, FIRST OF ALL ON THIS HEARING, THE TIMING COULD NOT HAVE BEEN WORSE. HERE WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF DECEMBER, A VERY BUSY TIME, AND THE THE FIRST TIME WE GOT NOTICE OF THIS HEARING WAS MONDAY WHERE A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF MEMBERS OF THE, UH, OF THE A VL OR OUT OF TOWN UNABLE TO ATTEND THE MEETING. IN FACT, I'M THE ONLY ONE IN THE WHOLE GROUP THAT'S HERE TONIGHT. WE DID NOT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVEN CALL ONE ANOTHER CONFERENCE ONE ANOTHER, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I DID NOT HAVE THE TIME TO REALLY LOOK AT THESE CHANGES, ANALYZE THOSE CHANGES, AND COME UP WITH SOME SORT OF RESPONSE. BUT NOW I'M LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT IT. I MEAN, THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE WAY OF PROCEEDING WITH THIS, THAT, UH, THE A VL PROPOSED THE LEGISLATION. WE PROPOSED THE LEGISLATION, BUT NOW WE'RE RESTRICTED TO FIVE MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT IT. IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THE TOWN HAS THE ABSOLUTE RIGHT TO CHANGE THE PROPOSAL. I'M NOT ARGUING ABOUT THAT, BUT SEEING HOW THE A BL PROPOSED A LEGISLATION, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN A HEADS UP AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING. AND, UH, AND UH, AND GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPINE ON THAT. NO, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT THING, UH, BENEFIT TO THE TOWN. I WAS AT A MEETING JUST, UH, LAST MAY WEEK, UH, UM, UH, FOR A PRESENTATION FOR SENIOR CITIZEN. AND ONE OF THE SPEAKERS THERE WAS FROM WESTCHESTER COUNTY. I DON'T RECALL THE EXACT NAME OF THE DEPARTMENT, BUT THEY FOCUSED ON, UH, THE SENIORS IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY. AND THEY SAID 59% [00:55:02] OF THE SENIORS IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY IS HOUSING STRESS. 59%. NOW, THIS IS A PROPOSAL THAT COULD HELP THEM. I SPOKE TO, UH, UH, UH, HUGH MCALDY, WHO'S HEAD OF THE, OF THE VOL OF VETERAN VETERAN VETERANS AFFAIR. AND I SPOKE TO HIM EARLIER ABOUT THE LAW. HE SAID, THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT THE VETERANS IN IN, UH, UH, WESTCHESTER NEEDS. HE'S NOT HERE BECAUSE HE'S BUSY. HE CAN'T COME HERE TO TALK. LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE AUDIENCE. THIS IS A TERRIBLE DAY TO, UH, CLOSE THIS HEARING. THIS HEARING NEEDS TO BE PROPOSED, UH, BE POSTPONED TO SOMETIME IN JANUARY, AND YOU NEED TO PUT IT BACK AND, AND, AND, UH, WORK SESSION WHERE YOU INVITE PEOPLE FROM THIS, UH, A VETERANS GROUP. YOU, YOU INVITE THE A A VL, YOU, YOU INVITE SOMEONE FOR WESTCHESTER COUNTY, WHO'S, WHO'S INVOLVED? IS THAT RONNIE COX THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? RONNIE COX? YEAH. YEAH. WHO'S INVOLVED IN SENIOR HOUSING RIGHT NOW? GET ALL THE FACTS ON THE TABLE, THEN AT LEAST THE TOWN BOARD WILL BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON FACTS, ANALYZE THE FACTS, AND NOT JUST TO RUSH THIS THROUGH AT THE LAST MINUTE AND ONLY GIVE PEOPLE TWO DAYS TO RESPOND AND THEN RESTRICT THEM TO FIVE MINUTES OF DISCUSSION. SO THIS TWICE, FIVE MINUTES, TWICE? NO, I PERHAPS YOU GET A SECOND HOUSE, PERHAPS, PERHAPS, YEAH, BUT NO, BUT THE YEAH, BUT EVEN FIVE MINUTES OR TWICE WITHOUT PROPER PREPARATION IS MEANINGLESS. OKAY. SO I JUST WISH THIS WILL BE THIS, ACTUALLY GO BACK INTO WORK SESSION SO YOU CAN REALLY GET ALL THE FACTS INVOLVED AND THEN MAKE A DECISION BASED UPON FACTS. YOU KNOW, I AGREED WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD NEVER ADOPT A MAJOR, YOU KNOW, NEW LAW, UH, DURING THE HOLIDAY SEASON IN DECEMBER. YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING A, I I REMEMBER YEARS AGO THERE WAS A TRADITION IN THE TOWN. WE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS IN DECEMBER BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN'T ATTEND. PEOPLE ARE PREOCCUPIED. THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. SO, YOU KNOW, AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS HEARING, I'D LIKE TO, I'M GONNA SUGGEST THAT WE, UM, UM, ADJOURN THE HEARING TO, UH, THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY. AND THEN WE WOULD BASICALLY GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, REVIEW IT DURING THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS AND THEN, UH, COMMENT, AND HOPEFULLY WE COULD CONTINUE TO APPROVE ON THE LAW. BUT I AGREE WITH YOU A HUNDRED PERCENT THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE VOTED ON IN DECEMBER. WE'RE CLOSED, THE HEARING CLOSED. THERE'S NEVER ANY INTENT, ANY INTENT BY THE BOARD TO CLOSE THE HEARING TONIGHT. THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE HAVING A HEARING TONIGHT IS BECAUSE IT WAS NOTICED ON AGENDAS FOR QUITE SOME TIME, AND MAYBE SOMEBODY SAW THAT AND WE DIDN'T WANT SOMEBODY TO, TO SHOW UP AND FIND OUT THAT THEY COULDN'T SPEAK. BUT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES, WERE WE GOING TO CLOSE THE HEARING TONIGHT? UM, WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN IT, YES. AFTER WE HEAR WHOEVER DOES SHOW UP TONIGHT MM-HMM . AND, UH, HAVE A MEETING IN JANUARY. WHICH MEETING IN JANUARY? I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. AND JUST SO THE RECORD IS COMPLETE, THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF A HEARING, WHICH STARTED IN SEPTEMBER. IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADJOURNED UNTIL THE NOVEMBER 13TH MEETING. WHEN THAT MEETING OCCURRED, THERE WAS A POSTING PUT ONLINE THAT IT WAS BEING ADDITIONALLY DELAYED UNTIL THE DECEMBER 11TH MEETING TONIGHT. SO THERE WAS ABOUT A MONTH NOTICE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT I SOUNDS LIKE IT'LL BE ADJOURNED AGAIN TO JANUARY AND HAVE ADDITIONAL TIME FOR ADDITIONAL COMMENTS. OKAY, NEXT SPEAKER, WE HAVE MR. MARK PANIER. DO YOU HAVE TO CLOSE? MR. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. TO THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, THE BOARD MEMBERS. MR. FINER. HEY, DU IT COULD HELP A LOT OF PEOPLE, ESPECIALLY SENIORS. MY TAXES HAVE TRIPLED IN THE LAST 25 YEARS THAT I LIVED HERE. DO I STILL WANNA LIVE HERE? TRIPLING MY TAXES AND A DU COULD HELP US, MAYBE ONE OF OUR CHILDREN OR ONE OF OUR GRANDCHILDREN COULD MOVE INTO THE UNIT AND HELP US IN OUR, IN OUR OLDER AGE. UM, WE NEED HELP FROM THE TOWN. I THINK SENIORS DO NEED HELP FROM THE TOWN IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM THE SECOND DWELLING. IT SHOULDN'T BE JUST [01:00:01] LIKE A A SINGLE ROOM OCCUPANCY PLACE. IT SHOULD BE A REAL HOME. IT SHOULD BE A HOME THAT SOMEBODY IS PROUD TO BUILD. IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THERE ARE A LOT OF BEAUTIFUL HOMES IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. THERE ARE A LOT OF LOTS AND BACK, LOTS OF A LOT OF OLDER HOMES. MY HOME IS, WAS BUILT IN 1898 BASED ON EDGAR ALLEN PO'S HOME IN THE BRONX. IT'S A HUGE BACK LOT. THE TAX INCREASES THAT, THAT WOULD BE PROPOSED FOR THIS, A DU SHOULD, SHOULD BE, THE ASSESSMENT SHOULD BE NOT INITIAL INITIALLY IN INCURRED. IT SHOULD HAVE SOME KIND OF, UH, PERIOD LIKE WALMART GETS , UH, A PERIOD OF TIME OF TAX ABATEMENT, UH, SO THAT THE COST OF THE BUILDING, THIS BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, I I, I SUSPECT MOST PEOPLE WHO WANNA BUILD ADUS ARE NOT GONNA BUILD SOMETHING THAT'S NOT, AND OF COURSE, WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RULES OF THE TOWN. I'M NOT, I'M NOT A LEGAL SCHOLAR OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. PARKING HAS GOTTA BE, UH, A KEY COMPONENT TO THE DADU. UH, WHETHER IT BE A CAR PARK OR A CAR GARAGE OR SOMETHING. THE TOWN OF GREENBURG CANNOT INCUR ADDITIONAL CARS WITHOUT PARKING. IT'S, IT'S THE MAIN MODE OF TRANSPORTATION IN TOWN. GREENBURG, LOOK AT OUR SHOPPING CENTERS. THEY'RE FULL TO CAPACITY, MOST OF THEM. THE GRANTS THAT THE, THE, THE STATE IS PROPOSING TO HELP PEOPLE BUILD THESE THINGS. I THINK THE TOWN SHOULD HELP US DO THAT. I, I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO ACCESS THESE GRANTS OR, OR TO GET THE, THIS MONEY THAT THE STATE WOULD LIKE US TO BUILD THESE THINGS. SO I I, I WOULD WISH THAT THE TOWN WOULD HELP US ON THAT. IT WOULD MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE ALSO. UM, NOT EVERYBODY HAS THE FUNDS TO, TO BUILD A HOUSE. UM, MAYBE IN THE TOWN'S EXCELLENT CAPACITY TO GET CREDIT. THEY COULD HELP PEOPLE, UH, WITH THE BANKS. THE BANKS ARE ALWAYS NOT VERY WILLING TO TALK TO INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE AND ARE VERY HARD TO DEAL WITH. UM, AND IT SHOULDN'T BE A BURDEN ON, ON, ON AN ELDERLY PERSON OR A PERSON WHO WANTS TO BUILD AN A DU SO THAT THEY DON'T, DO NOT IN THE FUTURE GET INTO FINANCIAL TROUBLE WITH THIS A DU. UM, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ON EIGHT YEARS. I HOPE IT GOES THROUGH SOMEHOW. AND, UH, I HOPE THAT STATE HASN'T PUT A TIME LIMIT ON IT. UH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE LAWS ARE EXACTLY. UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? SURE. UM, I'M SORT OF WONDERING BECAUSE I THINK THIS WAS REALLY EFFECTIVE. YOU REALLY ARE A TERRIFIC SPEAKER. THANK YOU. SO I'M REALLY IMPRESSED. UH, BUT, UM, AND YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY MADE A REALLY GOOD CASE. UM, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT HEARING MEET WITH THE COMMISSIONER, PLANNING GARRETT? ABSOLUTELY. UH, YOU COULD REVIEW GARRETT, MAYBE YOU COULD REVIEW WHAT HE WANT, WHAT YOU'D LIKE TO DO. AND I, I'M, I WOULD BE CURIOUS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE THINK THE LAW IS TOO, THE PROPOSED LAW IS TOO RESTRICTIVE OR SOME PEOPLE THINK THAT WE SHOULD HAVE MORE RESTRICTIONS. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF YOU WOULD BE QU IF YOUR HOUSE WOULD QUALIFY UNDER, UM, UNDER THE PROPOSED, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED LAW AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS I COULD REACH OUT ALSO TO THE STATE, UM, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN NOW AND AND JANUARY, YOU KNOW, I'D REACH OUT TO ALL THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE AND THEN SEE IF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, YOU KNOW, COULD REALLY HAPPEN. YES. AND WHAT OBSTACLES YOU WOULD, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE. BECAUSE THE GOAL OF THE A DU LEGISLATION IS TO GET SOMETHING TO GET HOME. ADUS, YOU KNOW, BUILT IN THE TOWN, NOT TO SAY, OH, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING AND NOBODY APPLIES. SO IF YOU COULD ARRANGE A MEETING WITH GARRETT, LIKE A SUPERVISOR OF LIKE A CASE STUDY, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE YEAH, I WOULD JUST BE CURIOUS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LY THIS WAS REALLY GREAT, YOU KNOW, I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THIS. AND THEN WE LOOK AT YOUR, AND THEN IF, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, THEY COULD ALSO BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY, UH, SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY INTERESTED IN IT. AND THEN YOU LOOK AT THE LAW THAT YOU DRAFTED AND DOES THE LAW APPLY TO THEM? I I WOULD AGREE TO ANYTHING THAT YOU PROPOSED. SO, [01:05:01] YEAH, SO HE'S RIGHT OVER THERE. SO MAYBE YOU COULD SET UP A TIME WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY MET, UM, PRIOR TO THIS, WE, YOU COULD BE OUR, UH, OUR CASE STUDY. ABSOLUTELY. THE LINES OF COMMUNICATION FOR ALL ADUS SHOULD BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT. THERE SHOULDN'T BE BARRIERS. A BARRIER SHOULD COME DOWN. TRANSPARENCY AND COMMUNICATION SHOULD COME UP. I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE LAST THING IS I LIVE ON A PROPERTY THAT WAS, UH, BUILT IN 1898 BY MRS. WILSON. MRS. WILSON OWNED THIS PROPERTY AND LOTS OF PROPERTY ON WILSON STREET AND AND BEYOND, AND SHE, SHE HAD A VISION FOR, UH, EAST HARTSDALE. SHE HAD A VISION OF ALL THESE HOUSES THAT CAME ABOUT AND MOST OF THEM WERE ON HAR PROPERTIES. AND THAT'S WHAT I PROPOSED TODAY, BUILDING ANOTHER HOUSE ON MRS. WILSON'S PROPERTY. . I'M SURE I'D MEET WITH GARRETT ANYTIME HE SAYS. THIS IS REALLY TERRIFIC. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I'LL SEE YOU IN JANUARY. SIR, CAN YOU PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND THE SPELLING FOR THE RECORD? SURE. MY NAME IS MARK, MARC. AND MY LAST NAME IS PANTERA, P-A-N-T-I-R-E-R. MY WIFE IS SITTING THERE. HER NAME IS JULIA. AND WE LIVE AT 18 WILSON STREET, HARTSDALE, NEW YORK. WE'VE LIVED THERE FOR 25 YEARS. 1 0 5 30. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR ASKING FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. AND ANY OTHER FURTHER SPEAKERS, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. NO PROBLEM. . UM, NEXT, UH, FOR THE, UH, HEARING THE A DU HEARING, UM, MR. HOWELL SAMUS, WAIT. OH, OKAY. I JUST WANNA SAY SOMETHING. KIMBERLY DID EMAIL ME AT FIVE 40 AND AT 6 35 $1 MILLION IN VACANT POSITIONS ACROSS THE DEPARTMENTS. HMM. OKAY. NOW THIS HEARING, FIRST I WANT TO COMPLIMENT GARRETT. HE KNOWS THAT I'M AFTER HIM ON MANY ISSUES, BUT UNLIKE OTHER DEPARTMENTS, GARRETT SUPPLIES ME ALWAYS WITH THE INFORMATION I REQUEST. HE NEEDS TO BE PATTED ON THE BACK FOR THAT. AND TODAY JUST HANDED ME THIS, THIS IS REALLY NOT MY HOT BUTTON ADUS, BUT, SO BASICALLY WHAT I HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IS, IS QUESTIONS. BECAUSE WHEN I FIRST, AND EVEN THOUGH I SPENT A CAREER IN NEW YORK CITY, COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE, ADUS IS ENTIRELY NEW TO ME. UM, SO, SO FROM MY QUICK READ OF WHAT HE GAVE ME, I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS TO CERTAIN THINGS. I THOUGHT ORIGINALLY THE IDEA OF ADU IN GREENBURG WAS TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, A MISUSED TERM. BUT BASICALLY THE QUESTION THEN IS HOW ARE THE RENTS SET BY THE LANDLORDS? ARE THERE ANY CONTROLS OVER THEM? UM, IF IT'S AN IN-HOUSE, A DU THAT'S CREATED IS, CAN THERE BE A DOOR CONNECTED TO THE OWNER'S PORTION OF THE BUILDING? IN OTHER WORDS, IF I WERE TO CREATE AN A DU, COULD I BE EXPANDING MY HOUSE? IS THERE ANY REQUIREMENT ACTUALLY TO RENT AN A DU ONCE IT'S ESTABLISHED? THERE IS A CHARGE TO DO SO BECAUSE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT IS VERY GREEDY AND LIKES TO CON CONSIDER THAT THE ONE IN TWO FAMILY HOMEOWNER IS NOW A REAL ESTATE DEVELOPER BECAUSE WE HAVE A DEVELOPER'S FUND, WHICH CHARGES FOR UNITS TO GO INTO THE PARK'S BUDGET AS REVENUE. I THINK IT'S KIND OF UNFAIR TO CHARGE SOMEONE WHO MAY IN FACT BE CREATING THE TYPE OF UNITS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING TO CREATE TO CHARGE HIM A FEE FOR DOING THAT. I AGREE. ON TOP OF THAT, I HAVE TO WONDER ABOUT WHEN YOU CREATE AN AD UNIT, DOES IT GET A SPECIAL TREATMENT IN TERMS OF SETBACKS THAT MAY EXIST FOR ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF WHAT YOUR UNIT MUST BE? DOES IT STILL HAVE TO CONFORM WITH THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS OF GREENBERG'S DEVELOPMENT? UM, SO BASICALLY CAN THIS [01:10:01] END UP HAS JUST OFFERING MORE SPACE TO THE OWNER THAN HIS EXISTING HOUSE. UM, AND REALLY I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW THE RENTS ARE SET AND WELL, I WON'T ASK IT, UH, THIS HEARING. THAT'S IT. CAN I JUST MAKE A COMMENT? I MEAN, THAT'S ACTUALLY A VERY INTERESTING POINT THAT HAL MADE. UM, WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT ONCE THE, UM, THE DESIRE TO GO FORWARD WITH AN ADU U HAS AND AND YOU GO FORWARD WITH THOSE PLANS, WHAT IS THE, WHAT IS THE FULFILLMENT OF THAT? HOW IS IS THE REQUIREMENT OF THAT ACTUALLY BEING FILLED BY ANOTHER TENANT AS OPPOSED TO IT BEING INCREASED SPACE IN THE HOME? I MEAN, ARE THERE SORT OF STIPULATIONS FOR THAT? HOW WOULD WE MONITOR, HOW IS THAT MONITORED? IS THAT ANYTHING THAT WE I MEAN, I WOULD NEVER HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT, THAT THAT COULD BE A MECHANISM FOR INCREASING THE, THE SIZE OR WHATEVER SOMEONE'S HOME THAT ACTUALLY, AND YOU KNOW, HOWEVER, IF YOU'RE TO HOUSE POINT THOUGH, IF ONE WERE TO BE ESTABLISHING AN A DU THEN AND PRESUMABLY PAYING A, A PARKS AND REC FEE, SO THAT WOULD BE AN ONUS IF YOU DID NOT FULFILL THAT REQUIREMENT. RIGHT? SO, UM, BUT IT IS AN INTERESTING QUESTION. YEAH. I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON, YOU KNOW, HOW ELSE COMMENTS BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, WITH ADU, UM, IT MAKES IT EASIER FOR SENIORS, MANY WHO, UM, CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE HERE WITHOUT THE ADUS TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES. BUT CURRENTLY THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT IN THE LAW THAT WHO THEY RENT TO THOSE HOMES DON'T HAVE TO BE AFFORDABLE. AFFORDABLE. SO ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD AS A RESULT OF, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR PRESENTATION WOULD BE TO, UM, PETITION THE STATE LEGISLATURE, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THE GOVERNOR, UM, TO MAYBE AUTHORIZE, UM, A REDUCTION IN, UM, ASSESSMENT INCREASES. UM, IF, UM, IF, UM, PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD COMMIT TO, UM, UH, KEEPING THE UNITS AT AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, RENTALS. BECAUSE LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO A BUILD AN A AN A DU AND UH, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOUR TAXES GO UP A LOT, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO, UH, CHARGE MORE RENT. ON THE OTHER HAND, UH, ONE OF THE GOALS IS TO UM, ENCOURAGE, UM, YOUNGER PEOPLE WHO ARE STARTING OUT BY ALLOWING THEM TO PAY AFFORDABLE, YOU KNOW, HAVING MORE AFFORDABLE RENTAL O OPPORTUNITIES AND WE'RE NOT INCREASING THE ASSESSMENTS. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CREATE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT IF, UM, IF, IF WE WOULDN'T BE INCREASING YOUR, YOUR ASSESSMENTS, A COUPLE OF THINGS MAYBE IN THE FINE PRINT THAT I'M MISSING, BUT, UM, IF SOMEONE'S GOING, WANTS TO PUT AN ADDITION ON THEIR HOUSE, IT'D MAKE THEIR HOUSE LARGER. WHY WOULD THEY BOTHER CALLING IT AN A DU? YOU KNOW, EITHER YOU INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE HOUSE OR YOU DON'T. SECONDLY, IN TERMS OF AFFORDABILITY, SOME OF THE AFFORDABILITY MIGHT BE FOR SENIORS, CRE AS MR. PALANTIR MENTIONED, CREATING AN APARTMENT. MAYBE THE APARTMENT IS FOR THE SENIORS, AND THAT'S THE AFFORDABLE PART OF IT. ALTHOUGH THEY OWN THE HOUSE AND THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS, MAYBE THEIR CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN MOVE INTO THE LARGER REMAINDER PART OF THE HOUSE. SO IT, IT, IT JUST FLIPS AROUND A BIT TOO. SO THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS TO LOOK AT IT, AND IT'S HARD TO, UM, I WOULD IMAGINE CREATE A ONE SIZE FITS ALL ON THAT. RIGHT. BUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS ALSO, I'VE REACHED OUT TO ALL THE VILLAGES IN THE TOWN, AND MOST OF THE VILLAGES, THE A EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD LENGTHY HEARINGS AND A LOT OF DISCUSSIONS, VERY FEW PEOPLE ARE, UH, ARE IMPLEMENTED, ARE PARTICIPATING. AND I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE, UM, IF THE ASSESSMENTS GO UP AND THERE'S ALL, AND WE'RE NOT DOING ENOUGH TO MAKE IT EASY FOR PEOPLE TO HAVE IT, THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW. SO, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE IN NAME SAYING, WE, WE HAVE THESE A DU LEGISLATION, BUT PRACTICALLY NOBODY'S PARTICIPATING. AND, AND THAT'S WHY I THINK, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NEW STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND MAYBE IN JANUARY WE COULD TRY COMING UP WITH DIFFERENT CONCEPTS. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SAYING, MY CONCEPT IS, IS SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF . IT IS THE ONE THAT HAS TO BE ADOPTED, BUT MAYBE WE COULD JUST, UH, REFLECT ON IT AND GET OTHER IDEAS AND THEN REC AND ASK THE STATE TO, UH, CONSIDER SOME OF THE, THE PROPOSALS AND THEN WE COULD CREATE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS THROUGH THIS. CAN I ASK THE QUESTION THAT I HELD OFF ON? TAKE 10 SECONDS. YOU HAVE, UM, ONE MINUTE AND 35 SECONDS LEFT. YEAH. COME UP BACK UP. HOW LONG [01:15:01] A LEASE CAN BE CREATED, CAN BE CREATED. CAN YOU, CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? HOW LONG A LEASE CAN BE CREATED AND IF I CAN ANSWER A LOT AND ONE AND ONE YEAR WITH AN OPTION TO RENEW FOR 30 YEARS, THOSE KIND OF QUESTIONS. UM, WOULD THE COMMISSIONER COME UP? WE CAN ANSWER SOME OF THE, MAKE SURE EVERYONE HAVE A CHANCE TO SPEAK. THERE MIGHT BE OTHER SPEAKERS. AND I DID HAVE A QUESTION. IF THERE'S SOMEONE ON ZOOM NAMED MATTHEW FORDO, HE MAY WANNA SPEAK. OKAY. LET'S HAVE ALL SPEAKERS. THERE WAS SOMEONE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED ON ZOOM. YEAH. OKAY, GREAT. LET'S GO FOR ALL. SO SORRY, LET'S HEAR FROM EVERYONE. I'M MAKING GOOD NOTES, RIGHT? SURE. OKAY. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN ATTENDANCE FIRST? UH, YES, PLEASE. UM, NEXT WE WILL HAVE, UH, DR. CAROL ALLEN ON THE ADUS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CAROL ALLEN. I RESIDE AT 19 BEACHWOOD ROAD. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING THE ACCESSORY DRILLING UNITS IS TO PROVIDE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP RENTAL HOUSING UNITS DESIGNED FOR SMALL HOUSEHOLDS, RELATIVES OF EXISTING FAMILIES WITHIN THE TOWN, THE ELDERLY AND PERSONS SEEKING MORE AFFORDABLE OPTIONS. CREATION OF THESE UNITS WILL PROVIDE ECONOMIC SUPPORT TO EXISTING RESIDENTS, BETTER FACILITATE AGING IN PLACE, AND PROTECT AND PRESERVE PROPERTY VALUES. SO IF THESE GOALS IN MIND, I OFFER THE FOLLOWING COMMENTS. A MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 10,000 OR 20,000 SQUARE FEET, DEPENDING UPON WHETHER THE A DU IS DETACHED OR NOT, IS REQUIRED. WHAT PERCENTAGE OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES IN GREENBURG ARE THEREFORE EXCLUDED FROM ELIGIBILITY TO CONSTRUCT UNITS? AND IN WHAT PART OF THE TOWN ARE THESE SMALLER PROPERTIES LOCATED? WHY HAVE YOU INSERTED A REQUIREMENT FOR A ONE YEAR LEASE TERM RENTING THE UNIT TO COLLEGE STUDENTS OR FACULTY WHO NEED THE UNIT FOR ONLY NINE OR 10 MONTHS SHOULD BE ALLOWED REGARDING COMMUNITY CHARACTER? WHAT IS A SUBSTANDARD STREET WIDTH? DOES THE TOWN HAVE A MAP OF ALL EXISTING STREETS WHICH ARE OF SUBSTANDARD WIDTH? WHERE ARE THESE STREETS LOCATED? HAVE YOU DETERMINED WHETHER THIS REQUIREMENT WILL ADVERSELY AFFECT CERTAIN SEGMENTS OF THE TOWN? ADU WILL BE COSTLY. HOMEOWNERS WILL BE REQUIRED TO ENGAGE ARCHITECTS, APPLY FOR AND PAY FOR VARIOUS PERMITS, AND BEAR THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. YOU HAVE ADDED A REQUIREMENT FOR 42, 40 $320 RECREATIONAL LAND FEE. THIS ADDITIONAL FEE MAY PRE PROVE TO BE THE ITEM THAT MAKES THE PROJECT COST PROHIBITIVE FOR THOSE ON FIXED INCOMES WHO EXPECT THE A DU TO PROVIDE THEIR NEEDED ECONOMIC SUPPORT. IF THE LAW IS PASSED IN ITS CURRENT FORM, YOU WILL HAVE A LAW ON THE BOOKS, BUT IT WILL FAIL TO ADEQUATELY ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SOLVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT WE WILL HAVE, UH, THERESA TORY SPEAKING ON THE ADUS. GOOD EVENING. UM, LITTLE BACKGROUND. I'M THERESA TORY. I RESIDE AT 100 POPE POE STREET, HARSDALE NEW YORK. UM, THIS IDEA OR SOME VARIATION OF IT COMES OUT OF THE MASTER PLAN, WHICH I WAS A MEMBER OF THE MASTER PLAN COMMITTEE WHEN THAT WAS DONE. I WAS ALSO AM A MEMBER OF THE A VL COMMUNITY COMMITTEE. ONE OF THE THINGS TO POINT OUT IS THAT, UM, ONE OF THE BIG DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE LAW WE HAVE BEFORE US NOW AND WHAT CAME OUT OF THE A DL VERSUS WHAT CAME OUT OF THE PLANNING BOARD IS THE ISSUE OF LOT SIZE. UM, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT, UM, HAS A DIFFERENCE FROM WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I FELT ABOUT THIS IS, I THINK ABOUT IT AS A HOMEOWNER. UM, I'M VERY PLEASED THAT WE ARE KEEPING THE EXISTING ZONING IN PLACE AS CHAIR OF THE CAC BECAUSE THIS WILL LIMIT ANY, UM, EXTRA STRESS IN TERMS OF IMPERVIOUS SURFACE BECAUSE ALL OF THE EXISTING ZONING STAYS IN PLACE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I THINK WE MIGHT WANNA CONSIDER, SO THAT WE DON'T GET CAUGHT UP IN THE TYPE OF THING WHERE WE HAVE AT OTHER MEETINGS, WE'VE HAD STRONGER OPPOSITION, BUT I AGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH WALTER, IT'S JUST THE WRONG TIME OF YEAR TO HAVE A MEETING. MUCH LESS. THE WEATHER TONIGHT IS THAT SOMETIMES WHEN AN IDEA IS NEW, SOME FOLKS [01:20:01] THINK IT'S A FABULOUS IDEA. SOME FOLKS THINK IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA. WE REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW THIS WILL WORK OUT UNTIL WE DO IT. AND ONE OF MY SUGGESTIONS WOULD BE, AS I LOOK OVER THE LAW, IS THAT CURRENTLY, UM, NUMBER 14, CAP LIMIT, THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO INSTITUTE A CAP ON THE NUMBER OF AG UNITS ISSUED ANNUALLY PER ZONING DISTRICT AS A TOTAL OF THE TOWN THROUGH RESOLUTION. I'M GONNA MAKE A SUGGESTION, WHICH I THINK PROBABLY MY A DL COMMUNITY WOULD NOT COMMITTEE WOULD NOT LIKE, BUT MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE LET'S PICK A NUMBER, PUT A CAP, AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK AND CHANGE THAT NUMBER UP OR DOWN DEPENDING ON WHAT WE FIND. BUT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW, IF YOU HAD, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SURGE OF PEOPLE BASED ON OTHER COMMUNITIES COMING IN, BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE A REASSURANCE FOR PEOPLE WHO MIGHT CONTINUE TO PUSH AGAINST THIS IF THEY KNEW THAT THERE WAS A CAP, THAT WE'RE GONNA TRY IT OUT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS, SEE HOW THE PROCESS WORKS. THAT WOULD ALSO GIVE US A STOP POINT TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE PROCESS AND SAY, IS THE, WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT? WHAT'S GOOD ABOUT IT? ARE WE OVERLY CONCERNED? ARE WE UNDER CONCERNED? UH, IT'LL GIVE US A CHANCE TO START TO HAVE SOME METRICS ON WHERE THE REQUESTS ARE COMING FROM. SO THAT WOULD BE MY SUGGESTION. THANK YOU. YEAH. ONE OF, UH, THAT'S A GOOD ONE. THE ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, THAT I HAD, UM, AND I SUGGESTED WAS TO PUT A, A ONE YEAR SUNSET PROVISION. UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROBABILITY IS THAT LIKE THE FIRST YEAR, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE MORE THAN, YOU KNOW, I THINK IF, IF WE'RE LUCKY, WE WILL HAVE 10 HOMES, PROBABLY LESS. SO LET'S SAY WE SAID FOR THE FIR THIS LAW IS ONLY IN EXISTENCE FOR A YEAR. UM, AND, YOU KNOW, WE SEE HOW IT WORKS DURING THE YEAR. AT THE END OF THE YEAR, THERE'S A SUNSET PROVISION. SO THE LAW HAS TO EITHER BE REAPPROVED OR, OR MODIFIED. AND IF WE PUT, LIKE, IF, IF WE KNOW THAT THE PROBABILITY IS THAT THERE'S GONNA BE 10, MAYBE 10 PEOPLE OR YEAH, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, I DON'T THINK THERE'S A, A LIKELIHOOD THAT IT'S GONNA BE MORE THAN 10. SO IF WE SAY WE'RE GONNA TRY IT OUT WITH 10, UM, UH, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A A, YOU KNOW, A, YOU KNOW, A A ONE YEAR SUNSET PROVISION, THEN I FEEL THAT SOME OF THE PEOPLE WHO AT THE LAST HEARING HAD CONCERNS ABOUT IT, UH, WILL BE LESS CONCERNED. UM, WE COULD ALL, AND I THINK ONCE PEOPLE SEE THAT THIS IS WORKING, UM, THAT THERE'LL BE MORE, THAT THERE'LL BE MORE SUPPORT. AND THEN WE COULD ALSO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE AFFORDABILITY ISSUES. I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF THE RECREATION FEE. AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE, UM, THOUGHTS THAT I HAD AS A RESULT OF, UH, DR. ALLEN'S, UM, YOU KNOW, SUGGESTION WAS, WAS POSSIBLY, UM, TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKES THE UNIT AFFORDABLE AND KEEPS TO AFFORDABLE RENTS THAT WE WOULD WAIVE THE, UH, THE THE $4,000, YOU KNOW, FEE, UH, AS SORT OF LIKE AN INCENTIVE. SO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT COULD BE TESTED OUT BETWEEN NOW AND, YOU KNOW, AND JANUARY, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE, WHEN WE HOLD OUR HEARING. BUT I BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT ANYTHING WE COULD DO THAT COULD, UM, MAKE PEOPLE WHO ARE PANICKING ABOUT THIS FEEL BETTER ABOUT IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, GET SOME LEGISLATION ACTUALLY APPROVED AND TEST IT OUT AND, AND THEN SAY WE'RE GONNA BE CONSTANTLY TWEAKING IT. I THINK THAT'S THE WAY OF, OF GOING. AND WE, WE COULD REALLY HAVE A VERY SUCCESSFUL LAW. I THINK, UM, IF I MAY, UH, I THINK A ONE YEAR SUNSET CLAUSE IS A, IS A LITTLE BIT TOO SHORT. AND I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WESTCHESTER MUNICIPAL OFFICERS ASSOCIATION DID A VERY COMPREHENSIVE STUDY, FOR INSTANCE. AND, UM, I THINK THAT THE A VL COMMITTEE DID AVAIL THEMSELVES OF THAT AND SOME OF THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WAS DERIVED FROM THAT. BUT THE, THE, UM, I KNOW FOR INSTANCE IN HASTINGS, THEY, THEY HAD AN A A DU LAW IN PLACE, AND OVER TIME THEY AMENDED IT. SO THERE WAS AN AMENDMENT AND STILL, AND YOU'RE, AND YOU'RE CORRECT THAT THERE ARE NOT THAT MANY FOR THOSE THAT FEAR THAT THE, THE, UH, TOWN IS GONNA BE OVERRUN BY ADUS ON THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, UM, THAT HAS NOT PROVEN ITSELF THROUGHOUT WESTCHESTER, NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, UM, I THINK THAT, UM, THAT THE, THE IDEA IS A GREAT ONE THAT MAYBE HASN'T CAUGHT ON AS WE ARE FINDING THAT AFFORDABILITY [01:25:01] IS SO HARD AND WE CAN CERTAINLY TWEAK AS WE GO ALONG. I THINK THAT THAT MS. TORY'S SUGGESTION IS A GOOD ONE. AGREED. AND JUST TO POINT AS TO WHY THE SUNSET CLAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE WOULD WORK IS BECAUSE WHEN YOU ARE IN THE PLANNING PROCESS OF CREATING AN A DU AND YOU'RE STARTING WITH ONE YEAR, AND THEN IT POTENTIALLY THE THE LAW COULD DISAPPEAR, THEN YOU'RE PEOPLE WILL BE STUCK. NO, I, I BASICALLY WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU SUBMIT A PROPOSAL AND IT, IT HASN'T BEEN, IT HASN'T BEEN, ONCE YOU SUBMIT IT, LIKE IF YOU SUBMIT IT, LET'S SAY WE PASS IT IN JAN IN JANUARY AND YOU SUBMIT IT IN APRIL, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, AND THE, YOU KNOW, THE LAW WAS FILED WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE, YOU KNOW, AND SO SAY STARTS IN MARCH AND YOU SUBMIT IT IN APRIL, TAKES SOME TIME TO GET YOUR DUCKS IN ORDER. ONCE YOU SUBMIT IT, THEN, WELL, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SUBMIT IT ALL THE WAY UNTIL NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER. NO, YOU COULD, NO, YOU COULD SUBMIT IT FOR UP TO A YEAR. OKAY. UH, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE APPROVED BY THEN, BUT, YOU KNOW, AND I'M SAYING THESE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS WE COULD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD THINK ABOUT. BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, ALL THE VILLAGES, I, I WROTE TO ALL THE VILLAGES IN, UM, IN GREENBERG AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK HASTINGS MIGHT HAVE HAD LIKE ABOUT 20 OVER PERIOD OF TIMES HASS WAS THE ONLY ONE WITH DOUBLE DIGITS. THE REST WERE FIVE OR LESS. YEAH. IN THE, AND THAT WAS OVER A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. IT WASN'T THE YEARS, YEARS TIME. IT'S MANY YEARS. CORRECT. RIGHT. YEAH. IN, IN SUM TOTAL, ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHY TERRY'S SUGGESTION OF PUTTING A NUMBER, A CAP, YOU KNOW, COULD WORK BECAUSE THE PROBABILITY IS WE'RE NOT GONNA EXCEED THE CAP ANYWAY, WHETHER WE HAVE IT OR NOT. UM, WAS THERE SOMEONE ONLINE DID, DID, I WAS JUST ABOUT TO ASK SPEAK. OKAY. I THINK, I BELIEVE TERRANCE CAN, UH, PUT THAT PERSON IN. YES. IF THERE'S A MA IF ANYONE ON IS ONLINE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON THE ZOOM, YOU COULD PLEASE UNMUTE YOUR MIC OR, OR SEND A CHAT OR PUT YOUR HAND UP AND WE'LL, HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN. YES. HEY, THANK YOU. SORRY, I HAD A GO INTO A DIFFERENT ROOM 'CAUSE MY KIDS ARE SLEEPING. UH, MY NAME'S MATT FORNADO. I LIVE AT, UH, ONE EDGE PARK ROAD IN WHITE PLAINS. UM, BEEN AT THIS ADDRESS FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS. CAME UP, UM, FROM BROOKLYN AND COULD ONLY HAVE GOOD THINGS TO SAY ABOUT GREENBURG. UM, WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL 15 MONTH OLD DAUGHTER AND ANOTHER DAUGHTER ON THE WAY. AND, UM, UNFORTUNATELY MY PARENTS HAD TO MOVE AWAY, UH, DUE TO BEING ON A FIXED INCOME. AND, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN'T AFFORD NEW YORK STATE TAXES ANYMORE. SO THE A DU LAW IS VERY APPEALING TO ME BECAUSE MY PARENTS HAVE DONE SO MUCH FOR ME. I'D LIKE TO PUT ONE IN MY HOME TO GIVE THEM A PLACE TO COME STAY WITH US WHEN THEY COME UP FROM FLORIDA FOR FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS OUT OF THE SUMMER. BECAUSE OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS, IT'S COST THEM 10 TO $12,000 FOR THREE MONTHS AND AIRBNBS. 'CAUSE UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T HAVE THE SPACE IN A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE TO ALLOW THEM TO STAY. SO THE A DU LAW WOULD GIVE ME THE OPTION TO LET THEM STAY SIX MONTHS OF THE YEAR UP HERE IN NEW YORK WITH THEIR GRANDCHILDREN. UM, YOU KNOW, IT ALSO WOULD HELP ME WITH CHILDCARE COSTS AS THOSE ARE THREE, $4,000 A MONTH. I BE NOT ONLY HELPING MY PARENTS AS WELL AS MY CHILDREN, AND I THINK THE A DU LAW PROVIDES A GOOD BALANCE. I WENT OUT SO FAR TO EVEN HAVE AN ARCHITECT COME OUT TO MY HOUSE BECAUSE I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THIS WAS ALREADY LAW WHEN I READ IT ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE. UM, BUT THE ARCHITECT INFORMED ME THAT IT'S STILL PROPOSED, AND HE ENCOURAGED ME TO COME TO THIS MEETING AND, UH, SPEAK UP. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, YOU KNOW, FOR ELDERLY PARENTS, MY PARENTS AREN'T ELDERLY, BUT FOR, YOU KNOW, RETIRED PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOME, THIS GIVES CHILDREN AN OPTION TO GIVE BACK TO THEIR PARENTS AND VICE VERSA. IT GIVES PEOPLE WHO ALREADY OWN A HOME IN WESTCHESTER, A CHANCE TO AGE IN PLACE WHILE GIVING BACK TO THEIR CHILDREN. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE IS ALSO THE SIDE OF THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR OTHER RESIDENTS AND OTHER YOUNG PEOPLE WHO NEED, UM, PLACES TO LIVE WHILE THEY SAVE UP. YOU KNOW, I WAS VERY BLESSED, UM, TO BE ABLE TO BUY A HOUSE IN GREENBURG RIGHT BEFORE COVID. UM, YOU KNOW, AND ME AND MY WIFE, YOU KNOW, I WORK TWO FULL-TIME JOBS. SHE WORKS ONE JUST TO LIVE IN WESTCHESTER. IT'S, IT'S A STRUGGLE. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, I COULD SAY THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT IN WESTCHESTER, ESPECIALLY WITH THE TAXES AND THE COST OF LIVING EVERYTHING ELSE IN NEW YORK. UM, SO I'M TOTALLY FOR THIS LAW, I DO NOT SEE ANY DOWNSIDE. UM, I'D LOVE TO HEAR PEOPLE'S PERSPECTIVE ON THE DOWNSIDE, UM, BECAUSE THE ONLY GOOD THINGS COULD COME FROM THIS. ONLY PEOPLE COULD BENEFIT FROM COMING INTO THE COMMUNITY AND BEING A PART OF THE COMMUNITY. UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S MY TAKE ON THE LAW. [01:30:01] THANK YOU FOR, UH, LETTING ME SPEAK. CAN I JUST ASK YOU, UH, YOU KNOW, ONE QUESTION. UM, UH, FIRST OF ALL, I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE, UH, UH, YOU'RE SPEAKING AND THIS IS REALLY WHAT DEMOCRACY IS ALL ABOUT, BECAUSE THIS HEARING'S BEEN, I'D SAY ONE OF THE BEST HEARINGS WE'VE HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN SUPERVISOR. UM, AND YOU KNOW, IT'S REALLY GREAT TO SEE PEOPLE LIKE YOU PARTICIPATING, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO WE NORMALLY DON'T HEAR FROM. BUT, UM, THE OTHER, UM, THOUGHT THAT I HAD IS, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO MEET WITH THE COMMISSIONER OF PLANNING? UM, AND HE COULD LOOK AT YOUR, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR HOUSE AND, UH, YOU COULD, BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY, I JUST WANNA SEE IF THE PROPOSED LAW, SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER CASE STUDY. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NO, I WANNA HAVE, RIGHT, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE KEY, YOU KNOW, UH, SOME PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING THE A DU LEGISLATION FAIL, THE LAW IS TOO RESTRICTIVE. SO WE NOW HAVE TWO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO SAY THEY WANNA PARTICIPATE IN THE ADUS MM-HMM . SO I'D LIKE TO SEE IF YOUR HOUSE COMPLIES AND YOUR HOUSE COMPLIES UNDER THE PROPOSED LAW. AND THEN WE COULD SEE IF, UM, IF, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSED LAW IS RESTRICTIVE ENOUGH, IS TOO RESTRICTIVE, OR IF IT BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IS, YOU KNOW, IS GOOD. I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD INFORMATION, UH, YOU KNOW, TAB. BUT I'M REALLY LIKE SO THRILLED THAT YOU, YOU PARTICIPATE AND I HOPE YOU ATTEND MORE TOWN BOARD MEETINGS. YOU KNOW, THIS WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, REALLY, REALLY EXCELLENT. AND WE CAN MAKE, UH, YOUR THE BABY, WE CAN MAKE HER, UH, DEPUTY, UH, SUPERVISOR FOR PLAYGROUNDS. . THANK YOU MR. FOR THANK YOU. SHE WAS LIKE THE GREENBERG PLAYGROUNDS. WELL, SHE COULD BE DEPUTY. I'D BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH, UM, WITH, UH, ANYBODY. UM, YOU KNOW, UH, I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE MY EMAIL. UM, HAPPY TO WRITE MY PHONE NUMBER IN THE CHAT. UM, AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO ME. I APPRECIATE YOU. SO THANK YOU. WILL YOU MEET WITH, WITH HIM AND THEN JUST CAN FOLLOW, ANALYZE HIS HOUSE AND WHAT HE WANTS TO DO. MR. FOR CAN WE JUST HAVE THE SPELLING OF YOUR NAME AGAIN PLEASE, SIR? IT'S, UH, F-O-R-T-U-N-A-T-O. AND UM, JUST MATT, I'M 30. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? THERE'S NO OTHER SPEAKERS, UM, ON THE LIST. UH, WERE THERE ANY, TERRANCE, ARE THERE ANY MORE SPEAKERS ONLINE? NOPE, WE'RE ALL THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. I TOOK SOME NOTES AS LONG AS I CAN READ THEM. WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE. UH, JUST WANNA ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE RAISED. I DO NOTE THAT THERE'S AN FAQ ON THE WEB THAT WAS POSTED IN ADDITION TO THE UPDATED LOCAL LAW. AND IT, IT DOES, IT IS AN F FA Q THAT ANSWERS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED. BUT LET ME TRY AND BRIEFLY JUST ADDRESS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. AS FAR AS THE ADUS AFFORDABILITY, AFFORDABILITY, HOW ARE THE RENTS SET? THAT'S JUST FREE MARKET. SO THE, THE, THE DISCRETION IS THAT THE OWNER OF THE A DU TO CHARGE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THEY FEEL IS APPROPRIATE. AND, UM, THERE IS NO RENT CONTROL ON THE ADUS. AND I, I DO THINK, UM, COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS MADE A GREAT POINT THAT THE A DU LAW ATTEMPTS TO ACHIEVE A VARIETY OF OBJECTIVES AND MAY WHAT MAY BE AFFORDABLE FOR SOME, IF LET'S SAY A SENIOR CAN MOVE INTO THE A DU AND RENT OUT THEIR HOME. THAT THAT'S AN AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT THAT I THINK ONE CANNOT DENY. UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, REALLY I THINK MORE GLOBALLY, AT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU'RE PROVIDING A BROADER RANGE OF HOUSING. SO THAT'S NOT ALL NECESSARILY COST BASED, IT'S, IT'S JUST A, A LARGER SPECTRUM OF HOUSING THAT WE NECESSARILY DON'T PROVIDE AT THE MOMENT. AND THAT'S A POSITIVE THAT, THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT NUANCE, I THINK TO DEFINE. WE TALK ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT HAS A VERY SPECIFIC DEFINITION TO SAY IT FALLS WITHIN CERTAIN PARAMETERS. AND WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT IS MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LIKE HOUSING AFFORD, THAT'S MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING THAT'S MORE AFFORDABLE, NOT INCREASED AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. IT'S DE FACTO AFFORDABLE. AND I MEAN, FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC, FOR ALL OF US TO UNDERSTAND THIS, IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY DEFACTO AFFORDABLE BY VIRTUE OF IT COULD BE, BUT IT'S NOT AN ENFORCEMENT OF WHAT WE DEFINE AS AFFORDABLE HOUSING ENFORCE. RIGHT. UM, IS THE A DU, CAN IT, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE IN-HOUSE A DU, THE QUESTION WAS, WOULD THERE BE LOCKS ON THE DOORS? IS THAT PERMISSIBLE? THERE IS ACTUALLY SPECIFICITY IN THE LOCAL LAW THAT SAYS THE DOOR HAS TO LOCK FROM BOTH SIDES. UM, SO THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THERE. UM, THE RECREATION FEE, I'M NOT STATING THIS TO, UH, BE A PROPONENT OR AN OP PROPONENT OF IT, BUT I JUST WANNA STATE FACTUALLY, THE $4,320 WOULD NOT GO INTO PARKS OPERATION BUDGET. UH, THE RECREATION ESCROW, WHICH IS ONE TIME IS SET UP TO GO FOR, UM, CAPITAL EXPENDITURE. SO THAT MONEY THAT FUNDS GETS PUT INTO AN ESCROW, WHICH THEN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT COMES TO THE TOWN BOARD AND SAYS, HEY, RECREATION ESCROW HAS 400,000 IN IT. WE WOULD LIKE TO USE A HUNDRED THOUSAND TO IMPROVE [01:35:01] AN 88 BATHROOM AT FILL IN THE BLANK PARK. THAT'S WHAT THAT FUND IS ALL ABOUT. IT'S NOT BUYING, YOU KNOW, PENS AND PENCILS AT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. GARRETT, COULD YOU DEFINE WHAT THE, WHY, WHY THAT FIGURE WHERE THAT COMES FROM? THIS WAS BASED FROM 2005 RECREATION STUDY MM-HMM . AND IT AT THE TIME ANALYZED THE POPULATION OF THE TOWN GENERAL FORECASTING OF FUTURE POPULATIONS, CROSS-REFERENCED THAT WITH THE NUMBER OF PARKS WE HAVE IN THE TOWN WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED AND NEEDS OF THE PARKS. AND FROM THAT RECREATION NEEDS ASSESSMENT, IT, IT, IT, IT WAS THE ORIGIN OF ASSIGNING A, A RECREATION ESCROW REQUIREMENT. AND THEN THAT WAS FURTHER CODIFIED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG MM-HMM . AND IT APPLIES TO ALL NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AT A FEE OF 8,640 HALF THAT 4,320 FOR THE RENTALS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. SO THAT, THAT'S FOR ALL NEW UNITS AND IT HAS, UH, AT TIMES WHEN YOU GET LARGE PROJECTS, UM, A, UH, MULTIFAMILY ON TAX ROAD 444 UNITS, YOU GET A CHECK FOR 891,000 AND THAT FUNDING GOES ON TO DO GREAT THINGS, AKA, YOU KNOW, A DA IMPROVEMENTS OR, UM, JUST ALL KINDS OF IMPROVEMENTS. MM-HMM. SO GENERALLY IT'S A GREAT THING KEEPING IN MIND THAT IT'S NOT JUST A SUPERFLUOUS FEE THAT THE RESIDENTS OF, OF GREENBERG AND THE POTENTIAL AD USE WOULD BE USING THE PARKS. AND THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF WEAR AND TEAR IN THE PARKS AND A GREAT DEAL OF MAINTENANCE THAT'S REQUIRED. IT'S VERY COSTLY IN TERMS OF JUST GENERAL LOT IN BULK CONTROLS, MEANING SETBACKS, UH, FLOOR AREA RATIO. UH, MS. TORY CORRECTLY NOTIFIED THAT THE EXISTING PARAMETERS IN THAT SENSE ARE NOT CHANGED. SO I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK EXAMPLE, UM, FLOOR AREA RATIO IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG THAT IS AUTHORIZED, UH, PURSUANT TO A CHART IN THE ZONING ORDINANCE. AND IT SAYS IF YOU HAVE X AMOUNT OF SQUARE FEET, YOUR HOME ON THAT SIZE LOT CAN BE X AMOUNT OF SQUARE FEET. SO, UM, THE POINT IS, LET'S SAY ON A 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT, LET'S SAY THAT YIELDS A MAX 3,700 SQUARE FOOT HOME, IF YOU HAVE A 3,700 SQUARE FOOT SQUARE FOOT HOME EXISTING, YOU CANNOT THEN ADD ON AN 800 SQUARE FOOT A DU BECAUSE YOU WOULD GO OVER. SO THAT WOULD TRIGGER A VARIANCE AND, AND WOULD LIKELY NOT BE APPROVED. UM, IF YOU CONVERT SOME OF THAT 3,700 SQUARE FEET WITHIN YOUR HOME, THAT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE. BUT THE UNDERLYING LOT AND BOLT CONTROLS STAY, THAT'S SETBACKS, THAT'S IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE. YOU DON'T GET A BONUS, IF YOU WILL, IF YOU PROPOSE AN A DU UNIT. SO THAT, THAT ALSO ANSWERS THE QUESTION OF, UM, CAN YOU EXPAND YOUR HOME? YES. IF YOU HAVE FAR, UM, FLEXIBILITY IN THE MANNER THAT I JUST DESCRIBED. OKAY. UM, WITH REGARDS TO THE, THERE IS A PROVISION IN THERE THAT SPEAKS TO SUBSTANDARD STREET WIDTH. THE STANDARD STREET SIZE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS 26 FEET CURB TO CURB, AND MANY ROADS HAVE THAT MANY DO NOT. UM, THE, WHAT I WOULD NOTE IS THAT IN THE ORDINANCE, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT IF YOUR STREET IS 24 FEET, YOU ARE NOT, YOU CANNOT GET AN A DU. IT ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT SAY THAT. IT SAYS TAKE STREET WIDTH INTO, UM, CONSIDERATION. AND IN EXTREME INSTANCES, I THINK I'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT THAT TYPE OF EXTREME INSTANCE WOULD GET FLAGGED. AND THERE ARE MANY ROADS WHERE I THINK NO ONE WOULD WANT TO PROPOSE AN A DU NOR SHOULD ONE BE APPROVED. SO THAT GENERAL CONSIDERATION IS IN THERE, BUT IT DOESN'T BLANKET EXCLUDE ANYONE IF THEY'RE, UH, INSUFFICIENT IN THAT WIDTH SIZE. UH, AS FAR AS, UM, LOT SIZE, THERE WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, 20,000 SQUARE FOOT, AND YOU KNOW, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF LOTS IN THE TOWN THAT HOUSE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE LESS THAN 10,000 SQUARE FOOT. WE, WE COULD ABSOLUTELY RUN THAT NUMBERS. THE TOWN'S GIS SYSTEM IS AMAZING AND IT'S JUST A FEW CLICKS AWAY. SO, UM, THE GENERAL, I GUESS RULE OF THUMB IS MOST LOTS IN AN R FIVE DISTRICT ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT R FIVE MEANS 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT MINIMUM. SO MAJORITY OF THE R FIVE LOTS, UH, R FIVE DISTRICT, UM, WITH THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, MAX WOULD NOT, UM, MEET THE MINIMUM REQUIREMENT. DITTO THAT FOR R SEVEN FIVE, WHICH IS, UH, 7,500 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM. SO REALLY IT'S AN EXERCISE IN IDENTIFYING, UM, WHICH PERCENTAGE OF THOSE LOTS ARE, MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. I WOULD NOTE THAT THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, MINIMUM WAS NOT, UH, ARBITRARILY IDENTIFIED AS A MINIMUM LOT SIZE. UM, THE MAJOR CONSIDERATION FOR THAT, UH, IT, IT, IT ARISES FROM CONCERN FOR OFF STREET PARKING AND, YOU KNOW, JUST IN AN R FIVE DISTRICT, THE HOMES ARE ON 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS GENERALLY. AND SO IT'S, IT'S KIND [01:40:01] OF A TIGHTER KNIT, DENSER, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD. AND THOSE R FIVE LOTS AND NEIGHBORHOODS TEND TO HAVE LESS, UH, OFF STREET PARKING RELIEF. AND I GO BACK TO IJI JUST WANNA REMIND THE BOARD THAT WHEN IN THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOODS, UH, ADJACENT TO MANHATTAN AVENUE, WHICH WERE, ARE TYPICALLY, UH, 5,000 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, WHEN THE TOWN BOARD REMOVED THE UR DISTRICT, THAT WAS REPLACED WITH AN R FIVE DISTRICT, BUT IT ALSO ACCOUNTED FOR THE FACT THAT, UH, MANY TWO FAMILY HOMES HAD BEEN BUILT, UM, OVER TIME THROUGH THAT R UR DISTRICT. THE REASON I BRING UP THIS EXAMPLE IS THAT WHEN WE REZONED THE UR TO THE, THE R FIVE DISTRICT, ALL TWO FAMILIES WERE GRANDFATHERED. AND THERE WAS LITTLE TO NO PUSHBACK FROM RESIDENTS ABOUT TAKING AWAY THE PROSPECT OF ADDING ADDITIONAL TWO FAMILY HOMES. AND A LOT OF THAT TRULY WAS BASED ON THE FACT THAT, UM, A LOT OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD WITH THE DENSITY OF TWO FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE INTERSPERSED THE OFF STREET PARKING IS SUPER CHALLENGE. AND SOME OF THOSE ROADS INDEED ARE NOT 26 FOOT CURB TO CURB. SO THAT WAS SORT OF, UM, SOME EXPERIENCE THAT IDENTIFIED THAT, YOU KNOW, R FIVE DISTRICTS THAT EVOLVED WITH, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, MULTIPLE TWO FAMILIES OR MULTIPLE ADUS, THERE'S A GREATER PROPENSITY FOR CONCERN FOR OFF STREET PARKING. SO THAT'S WHERE THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, UM, WAS, WAS, WAS BORN OUT OF. AND THE 20,000 SQUARE FOOT IS FOR THE ADUS THAT ARE, UM, NOT WITHIN THE HOME AS A REMINDER AND THE 20 THOU. SO THAT'S A CONSIDERATION OF JUST, JUST TRYING TO MAXIMIZE LARGER SITES THAT HAVE THE CAPACITY TO ADD, UH, AN ACCESSORY A DUI THINK I HAVE ONE OR TWO MORE LEFT. THE CAP LIMIT, I HAD SPOKE ABOUT THIS TO THE BOARD, UM, BY RESOLUTION, THE TOWN BOARD IN THIS LOCAL LAW IS AUTHORIZED TO PUT A CAP. UM, I THINK THE SUPERVISOR INDICATED A NUMBER 10. I THINK THAT'S THE NUMBER I HAD SPOKE TO THE BOARD ABOUT BEFORE. UM, IF YOU HAD ASKED ME WHAT SHOULD WE SET, LET'S SAY IN THE FIRST YEAR, 10, 10 WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION. UH, I DON'T SUSPECT THERE WOULD BE 10 APPLICATIONS, BUT I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE NUMBER, UM, THAT COULD ALWAYS BE REVISITED IN THE FUTURE. UM, MS. ALLEN ANSWERED ONE OF THE EARLIER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEASE. IT'S ONE YEAR MINIMUM. UH, WHY IS THAT? UM, I SEE SOME MODEL LAWS, OR NOT SOME MODEL LAWS. WE, WE, YOU SEE VARIABILITY. SOME HAVE SIX MONTHS, SOME HAVE A YEAR, MANY HAVE A YEAR. UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF AN AIRBNB. YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME, SOME, SOME LEASE TERM. MM-HMM . AND A YEAR SEEMED REASONABLE. UM, I THINK THAT'S MOST OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WE HEARD THERE. AND I KNOW WE'RE GONNA COME BACK IN JANUARY, SO WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO ANSWER MORE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO WOULD THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER. SO WOULD THE BOARD BASICALLY LIKE TO, UH, EXTEND IT TO THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY THE SECOND? UM, THE MEETINGS ARE ON JANUARY 8TH AND JANUARY 22ND, UH, JANUARY 8TH, SECOND, NO, JANUARY 22ND. YEAH, JANUARY 8TH. PEOPLE ARE JUST COMING BACK FROM VACATION. YEAH. ON JANUARY 22ND, WE'RE GOING TO BE HAVING, UM, PRESENTATION, A LONG PRESENTATION TO ON ADELL HOUSE. SO JUST KEEP THAT, IF THAT'S REALLY OKAY. SO LET'S MOVE THAT. WE ADJOURN THE HEARING TO JANUARY 22ND. I JUST WANT, I JUST WANT TO COMMENT. EVERY TIME WE TALK ABOUT ADUS, WE GET INTO A DISCUSSION ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SO FORTH. THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS SENT TO THE TOWN BOARD DOES NOT HAVE THE WORD AFFORDABLE ANYWHERE IN THAT PROPOSED LAW. UH, WE HEARD TONIGHT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO WOULD WANT THEIR LOVED ONES TO COME BACK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO TAKE CARE OF 'EM AND SO FORTH. THERE'S REALLY NO, UM, ADDITIONAL CONSIDERATION FOR THAT KIND OF A THING. UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GONNA BE AFFORDABLE. IT MAY BE THAT A, UM, UH, CLEARLY NOT AFFORDABLE HOUSE BILLS A CLEARLY NOT AFFORDABLE, AND BY OUR TERM, UM, A DU AND THEY CAN GET WHATEVER THE RATE IS, PARTICULARLY DEPENDING ON WHAT SCHOOL DISTRICT IT'S IN. UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE REGULATE THAT. IF THE PURPOSE IS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. NOW, IF YOU WANT TO SAY, WELL, WE'RE JUST, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO INCREASE THE HOUSING STOCK, WELL THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT THIS AS IF IT'S, UM, GOING TO BE, UH, FOR AFFORDABILITY. AND IT'S A COMPLEX THING BECAUSE WE ARE, UH, CONFLATING BASICALLY SOMEBODY WHO IS STRUGGLING TO STAY IN THEIR HOME. SO THEY BUILD AN A DU OR THEY CONVERT THEIR HOUSE TO BE AN A DU. [01:45:01] SO IT HELPS THE CURRENT HOMEOWNER TO BE AFFORDABLE, UH, TO BE MORE AFFORDABLE. BUT IT MAY BE THAT A PERSON WHO IS WEALTHY WANTS TO BUILD AN A DU SIMPLY TO HAVE MORE INCOME. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF THE LAW OR WHY THERE SHOULD BE A CHANGE TO THE ZONING IN A SINGLE FAMILY ZONE. UM, THESE ARE COMPLEX ISSUES AND I DON'T THINK WE FULLY, UM, HAVE THEM WORKED OUT YET. WELL, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU KNOW, ONE WAYS OF MAKING IT AFFORDABLE, MORE AFFORDABLE, UM, THE RENTS WOULD BE TO GET THE STATE LEGISLATURE TO AUTHORIZE THE ASSESSOR NOT TO INCREASE ASSESSMENTS OF SOMEBODY, UM, INSTALL, YOU KNOW, DID AN A DU AND COMMITTED TO KEEPING THE UNIT, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE. UM, AND IF, UH, THE RENTS ARE NOT, DOESN'T STAY AFFORDABLE, THEN THE ASSESSMENTS WOULD GO, YOU KNOW, WOULD GO UP. SO I FEEL THAT BETWEEN NOW AND JANUARY 22ND, WE COULD LOOK AT WAYS OF MAKING THIS TRULY A WIN-WIN FOR LIKE EVERYBODY. WELL, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ANOTHER WAY OF LOOKING AT THAT TOO. IF SOMEONE IS GOING TO THE EXPENSE OF BUILDING AN A DU AND MUST CHARGE AFFORD, MAKE THE RATES AFFORDABLE, THEN IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TAXES. I, I UNDERSTAND. BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF GOES TO THE UPKEEP AND THE MAINTENANCE OF THE TOWN FOR THE ROADS THAT ARE NOW ARE GOING TO GET GREATER USAGE FOR THE PARKS AS WE DISCUSSED BEFORE. THAT IS ONE ASPECT. SO THAT'S WHAT THE TAXES GO FOR. UM, NOT, AND, AND CERTAINLY WE'D WANNA MAKE IT MORE AFFORDABLE, BUT THAT IS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT COMING UP WITH A PLAN THAT WE MAKE MARKET RATE HOUSING SO THAT THERE IS MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, HOUSING THAT IS AFFORDABLE. UM, AND THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE. YOU KNOW, THIS IS REALLY ISSUE ALTOGETHER. RIGHT. BUT THIS IS A DROP IN THE BUCKET IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, LET'S FACE IT. THIS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, REALLY WHAT, WHAT FRANCIS IS SAYING, IT'S REALLY MORE TO ACCOMMODATE PARTICULAR SITUATIONS WHERE THERE COULD POTENTIALLY BE MORE AFFORDABILITY FOR THE OWNER OF THE HOUSE OR WHATEVER. BUT WE'RE NOT, THIS IS NOT, WE'RE NOT A, A SOLVE OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING SITUATION WITH ADUS. SO I THINK EVERYONE SHOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS NOT OUR INTENTION TO, TO DO THAT. RIGHT. THIS IS JUST ANOTHER MEASURE THAT HELPS WITH AN ASPECT OF IT. BUT, BUT ALL I COULD SAY IS THAT TO ME, THIS IS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY BECAUSE LIKE I READ ALL THESE CITY AND STATE PUBLICATIONS, ALL THESE GOVERNMENT PUBLICATIONS, I KNOW THE GOVERNOR IS SUPPORTIVE OF, YOU KNOW, ADUS AND I KNOW THAT NEW YORK STATE HAS A BIG AFFORDABLE HOUSING, YOU KNOW, SHORTAGE. SO THE THING IS, IF WE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FACT THAT YOU HAVE A GOVERNOR WHO BASICALLY WANTS TO, UH, PROMOTE AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOVERNOR WHO WANTS TO SUPPORT ADUS, WE COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE UPCOMING STATE LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND PROPOSE, UM, INITIATIVES THAT COULD, UM, MAKE IT EASIER TO, UH, HAVE TO MAKE IT AFFORDABLE. A DU AFFORDABLE A DU, UH, UNITS. AND YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO THIS, IF, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF THE STATE WOULD PARTNER WITH LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND TRY CREATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES WITH ADU, THERE COULD BE A LOT OF ADUS AROUND THE STATE THAT WILL, UH, WILL BE BOTH THE EASIER YOU MAKE IT, THE MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS. AND YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THE A DU CONCEPT IS A ISRAELI ONE, UH, ONE APPROACH THAT COULD MAKE GREENBERG A LITTLE BIT MORE, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE. THERE'S DEFINITELY A HOUSING SHORTAGE ALL OVER, ALL OVER NEW YORK STATE AND ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. I BELIEVE THE COMMISSIONER WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. ONE LAST THING, UM, IN LIGHT OF, I I'M HEARING, UH, THERE'S A VERY IMPORTANT PUBLIC HEARING ON THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY. UM, IS THERE ANY POTENTIAL TO DO THE CONTINUE? AND I DON'T WANNA PUSH THIS OFF ANY FURTHER THAN IT NEEDS TO THE SECOND, THE FIRST OR SECOND MEETING IN FEBRUARY. I HAVE A HUGE GRANT DEADLINE AT THE END OF JANUARY. UM, IT'S JUST GONNA BE A MAJOR PUSH, SO OKAY. EITHER MEETING IN FEBRUARY WOULD BE THE FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY. FIRST MEETING IN FEBRUARY, YEAH. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. WHAT DAY IS THAT? THE THIRD, I THINK IT'S FEBRUARY 12TH. NO, IS THAT, IT'S THE SECOND WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH? THAT SOUNDS CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WAY. ADJOURN THE MEETING TO FEBRUARY, UH, 12TH, SECOND 30. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. UH, NEXT PUBLIC COMMENTS. [ To consider an extension of the Finmor Sewer District in the Town of Greenburgh] WE HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC HEARING. OH, I'M SORRY. UH, AN EXTENSION OF FINMORE SEWER DISTRICT IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. SO FOR THE RECORD, UM, THIS PETITION TO [01:50:01] EXTEND THE FINMORE SEWER DISTRICT WAS FILED ON SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2024 BY WHITE HOUSE MANOR LIMITED AND WORTHINGTON ESTATES. AND IF APPROVED BY THE TOWN BOARD, THIS WOULD EXTEND THE DISTRICT TO THE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 1952 AND 1490 SAWMILL RIVER ROAD. A MAP WAS ALSO TIMELY AND PROPERLY FILED WITH THE TOWN, WHICH DETAILS THE INSTALLATION OF NEW MAINS DRAINS AND OTHER PUBLIC WORKS. AND THE PETITIONERS HAVE AGREED TO CONSTRUCT ALL OF THESE IMPROVEMENTS AT THEIR OWN EXPENSE AND NO FURTHER EXPENSE TO THE TOWN, INCLUDING APPLICABLE INSPECTION FEES PER EACH CONNECTION. DO WE HAVE, GO AHEAD, FRANCIS. AS THE TOWN ENGINEER, UH, PROVIDED A LETTER STATING THAT THEY, UM, THAT HE AGREES WITH THE SUFFICIENCY OF THE APPLICATION AND IT'S, UH, IT'S VIABILITY. SO, GREAT QUESTION. I DO NOT SEE THAT AS PART OF THE PACKET TONIGHT. SO WE'RE CLOSING THE HEARING TONIGHT TO LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN OR 14 DAYS SO THAT THE TOWN ENGINEER JASON OLA CAN PROVIDE THAT. I BELIEVE HE HAS REVIEWED IT AND HE IS IN FAVOR OF IT. UH, BUT I DO NOT SEE IT POSTED ONLINE AND WE SHOULD MAKE THAT A PART OF THE RECORD. OKAY. SO MOVED. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. UH, WAIT, WE HAVE TO ANY SPEAKER? YEAH, ANY SPEAKERS? NO, NO, NO. OH, WELL, ONE SPEAKER I STAND CORRECTED FOR FINMORE. YES. OKAY. I'M SORRY. NO, THEN I LIKE, OKAY. WE NEED SOMEBODY TO SPEAK. NO, TRUE. BUT, UH, IT'S JUST OCCURRED TO ME AS I'VE BEEN WATCHING THESE HEARINGS, THAT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE SPEAKING AT PUBLIC HEARINGS TO GIVE THEIR ADDRESS OR EVEN THEIR NAME. SO WHY ARE WE PUSHING THAT? I THINK THAT'S VERY UNFAIR. PEOPLE MAY NOT WANT TO GIVE THEIR ADDRESS, AND YET YOU'RE ADVOCATING THAT THEY SHOULD. THAT IS PROTOCOL TO DO THAT. IT'S TO MAKE A RECORD OF THE HEARING. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? NO. SO WE HAVE, SO WE HAVE NOBODY FOR ADV, YOU KNOW, APPLICANT OR APPLICANT'S PROFESSIONAL TO SPEAK AT THIS HEARING. NO ONE IS IN ATTENDANCE. NO. SO THEN SHOULD WE, UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADJOURN TO A FURTHER DATE FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION? YOU WANNA ADJOURN IT TO DECEMBER 16TH AND GIVE THEM ANOTHER CHANCE TO, UH, UH, TO MAKE A PRESENTATION? I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. OKAY, THAT'S FINE. IT'S NOT GONNA REQUIRE A LOT OF PUBLIC INPUT BECAUSE THAT'S A TERRIBLE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC, RIGHT? NO, I'M JUST SAYING IF, IF THEY SAY THEY CAN'T MAKE IT ON DECEMBER 16TH, WE COULD ALWAYS POSTPONE IT TO, UH, JANUARY OR SOMETHING. CAN, CAN YOU MAKE THAT MOTION? SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, ADJOURN THE HEARING TO DECEMBER 16TH. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UM, AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THAT LETTER BY THEN YOUR FROM, FROM THE TOWN ENGINEER. OKAY. OKAY. UH, NEXT, [ PUBLIC COMMENT Advance signup is required. A continuous five minute limit per speaker will be strictly enforced. The clock will start when a speaker begins speaking and will not be stopped for any reason until the speaker is finished or five minutes has elapsed, whichever occurs first. Interruptions by Town Board members, the Town Clerk or the public will not be permitted. If a speaker insists on an immediate answer, should an answer be provided, it shall be part of the speaker's five minute allocation and not be interrupted. There will not be a second five minute round. Any written comments sent to PublicComment@GreenburghNY.com by 6 PM the day of the hearing will be forwarded to all Town Board members in advance of the meeting for their consideration. Written comments will not be read at the meeting unless the original author is present to do so.] UH, PUBLIC, UH, COMMENTS. UM, THE FIRST ONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE MR. WALTER SIMON. UH, GOOD EVENING AGAIN. UH, THE FIRST COMMENT I LIKE TO MAKE THAT A BL STANDS FOR ACCESSIBLE VIABLE LIVING. AND, AND THE IDEA THERE IS TO BROADENING, BROADEN THE HOUSING OP, UH, OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE, WHETHER THEY'RE IN A LOWER INCOME BRACKET OR A MODERATELY HIGHER INCOME BRACKET. SO THAT'S WHAT THE INTENT OF THAT LAW IS. UH, ALSO, NOW I LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE PROPOSED, UH, HISTORICAL PRES, HISTORICAL, UH, PRESERVATION OF LANDMARKS COM, UH, PROPOSAL THAT WILL BE DISCUSSION LATER ON. UH, WHEN THAT GROUP CAME BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD, BECAUSE WE, UH, THE TOWN BOARD ASKED THE PLANNING BOARD TO GIVE A RECOMMENDATION, WHICH I THINK IS APPROPRIATE, AND I THINK THAT SHOULD CONTINUE. THE PLANNING BOARD JUST GIVES A RECOMMENDATION, AND I DON'T SEE WHY. SO THIS GROUP SHOULD BE EXEMPT. WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT, UH, THEY HAVE NO STANDARDS. OUR CODE IS FINE, BUT THEY HAVE NO OPERATIONAL STANDARDS. IT'S HOW THEY CLASSIFY A PIECE OF PRO. WHAT IS THE PROCEDURE FOR CLASSIFYING A PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHAT RECORDS THEY HAVE AND, AND IDENTIFYING PROPERTY. NONE OF THAT WAS DONE. IN FACT, WE HAD A MEETING WITH, UH, PROFESSOR GREEN FROM PACE UNIVERSITY [01:55:01] LAW SCHOOL, WHO SPECIALIZED IN HISTORICAL BUILDINGS. SHE LOOKED AT OUR CODE. SHE DIDN'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH OUR CODE, BUT SHE COMMENT THAT THERE'S NO STANDARDS AND NO PROCEDURES. HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT DESIGNATING A BUILDING HISTORICAL? AND IN FACT, THERE WAS ONE, UH, UH, UM, CASE BEFORE US, WELL, AT THE PEOPLE ABOUT TO GO TO CLOSING, AND THEY WANTED THE REC, THEY, THEY WANT US TO RECOMMEND THE, UH, DECLARING THAT HOUSING, THAT HOUSE HISTORICAL. NOW, THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A MASSIVE LAWSUIT AGAINST THE TOWN BECAUSE WE HAD, THEY, WE HAD NO STANDARDS IN DESIGNATING THAT PROPERTY HISTORICAL. AND, AND IF THEY WERE TO LOSE THE SALE OF THAT HOME, YOU'D BE SUED FOR ALL SORTS OF DAMAGES. YOU DON'T HAVE A STANDARD. AND SO THAT, AND, AND AT THAT POINT, THE PLANNING BOARD SET, UNTIL YOU COME UP WITH STANDINGS, THAT'S GONNA BE OUR RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD THAT WE DO NOT HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION TO MAKE A JUDGMENT. AND THAT'S WHERE WE STOOD. NOW, THIS, THIS, UH, CURRENT PROPOSAL DOES NOT ADDRESS THAT. IT DOES NOT MANDATE THE, THE HISTORICAL PRE, UH, UH, SOCIETY PRESERVATION, LAND SOCIETY PUT IN PROCEDURES. IT DOESN'T MANDATE. IT JUST SAID WE COULD, WE COULD HAVE THIS LAW. AND THE ONLY THING WE ARE GOING TO DO IS REMOVE, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD FROM MAKING A RECOMMENDATION, BUT WITH NO STANDARDS. AND SO THE TOWN WILL STILL BE LEFT WITH THE SAME, UH, PROBLEM. IF YOU DECLARE SOME, UH, A BUILDING HISTORICAL AND THE HOMEOWNER DOESN'T WANT IT, THEY COULD EASILY SUE THE TOWN. WHAT ARE YOU STANDING ON? WHAT BASIS ARE YOU MAKING THIS DETERMINATION? AND YOU MADE ME LOSE A SALE ON THIS HOUSE, OR YOU TELLING ME I CAN'T MAKE THIS, UH, UH, MODIFICATION TO MY BUILDING? WHAT ARE THE STANDARDS YOU ARE USING? SO I THINK THE LAW AS WRITTEN IS POOR. IT, IT SHOULD HAVE SOME SORT OF STANDARDS BUILT INTO IT AS RECOMMENDED BY THE, BY THE PLANNING BOARD AND BY PROFESSOR GREEN FROM PACE UNIVERSITY LAW SCHOOL, WHO'S AN EXPERT. AND ON HISTORICAL BUILDINGS, THAT WAS THE SAME THING SHE NOTED. I THINK IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO GO THROUGH AND APPROVE THIS WITHOUT A MANDATE TO PUT IN NO STANDARDS. AND I THINK THE PLANNING BOARD SHOULD, SHOULD TREAT THIS LIKE ANY OTHER RECOMMENDATION FROM THE TOWN BOARD. YOU ASK THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A RECOMMENDATION. THEY DON'T DETERMINE, THEY DON'T MAKE THE DETERMINE. THEY JUST GIVE A RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE SOME OF THESE THINGS COULD HAVE LAND USE IMPLICATIONS. SO I THINK YOU REALLY NEED TO THINK HARD AND LONG ABOUT APPROVING THE CURRENT LAW AS WRITTEN. THANK YOU. I EXPECT TO HOLD IT OVER TO, UM, MAY I, MAY I READ A LETTER, PLEASE FROM MADELINE NOCHE? UH, BUT FIRST, DID ANYONE ELSE HERE HAVE SOME WANT TO SPEAK? YOU COULD READ IT. OKAY. IS SHE WROTE, THANK YOU FOR SAY WHO IS. I'M SORRY. SHE'S A MEMBER OF THE, THE BOARD, UM, THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, BOARD CHAIR. CHAIR. SHE'S THE CHAIR. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR RESPONSE. I AM VERY UNCOMFORTABLE WITH CONTINUED INVOLVEMENT, THE PLANNING BOARD, BOTH EASTON AND THE STATE DISAPPROVE OF THE PLANNING BOARD BEING PART OF THE DESIGNATION PROCESS. I DON'T FEEL THAT IT IS JUDICIOUS TO GO AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION. PEOPLE H AND LPB ASK THEIR ADVICE AND WILL BE SEEKING GRANTS IN THE FUTURE. THE HISTORIC BOARD IS EXTRAORDINARILY PROUD OF BEING ONE OF THE FIRST CLG PRESERVATION BOARDS IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY. I WOULDN'T WANT STATE TO THINK WE ARE NOT PLAYING BY THEIR RULES WAITING TWO MONTHS WHILE THE PLANNING BOARD PONDERS A DESIGNATION APPLICATION JUST ADDS TO THE LANDMARKING PROCESS TO MAKE A QUALIFIED REVIEW. AT THE VERY LEAST, THE PLANNING BOARD MUST DO A SITE VISIT AND READ ALL THE BACKGROUND MATERIAL WITH THE BACKGROUNDS OF SEVERAL BOARD MEMBERS. AND WITH OUR ABILITY TO SEEK CONSULTANT SERVICES, THE H AND LPB MEMBERS ARE MORE THAN QUALIFIED TO ANALYZE THE QUALIFICATIONS OF THOSE BUILDINGS. WALLS, TREES, ETAL, NEW YORK STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION WILL ALSO SEND A REPRESENTATIVE TO US IF WE NEED THAT KIND OF HELP. I WOULD STILL APPRECIATE IT IF SOMEONE WOULD READ MY LETTER. AND HERE I HAVE, SO, AND THAT'S WRITTEN BY MADELINE OSHA, THE [02:00:01] PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD. I STILL HAVE A FEW MINUTES LEFT. I DON'T, NO. 10 SECONDS. NO. LET, UM, WHAT HAPPENED WAS ELLEN AND HE, I DIDN'T FINISH ELLEN, ELLEN STARTED SPEAKING WITH THE LETTER. HE HAS 10 SECONDS LEFT. YEAH, NO, NO, I KNOW. I'M JUST, HE HAS AT LEAST THAT, RIGHT? YEAH. OKAY. WE NEVER DOUBTED THEIR ABILITY OR THEIR DEDICATION OR THEIR EXPERTISE. WE SAID YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROPER PROCEDURES IN PLACE. THAT'S THE POINT WE ARE MAKING. THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY STILL DON'T HAVE IT. NEXT. SHE JUST HAD A RIGHT TO BE HEARD NEXT. UH, IT AS YOU DID, I'M SORRY. NEXT FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, WE HAVE HOUSE . I AM SO GLAD TO SEE THAT THE TOWN BOARD TONIGHT IS IN A MOOD TO HAVE DIALOGUE WITH PEOPLE. OF COURSE, I READ ON PUBLIC COMMENT ON YOUR AGENDA, UH, WRITTEN COMMENTS WILL NOT BE READ AT THE MEETING UNLESS THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR IS PRESENT TO DO SO. YOU'RE THE PARLIAMENTARIAN, AREN'T YOU? IT IS A RARE EVENT WHEN I ACTUALLY WRITE, WRITE OUT AND READ FROM A PREPARED COMMENT. BUT NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION. AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING OF NOVEMBER 25TH, 2024, DURING PUBLIC COMMENT, I PRESENTED TO THOSE SEATED ON THE DAY AS A PACKET OF DOCUMENTS ATTAINED BY FOIL FROM THE TOWN ITSELF. ALL OF THOSE DOCUMENTS SUPPORT THE INTENTION OF THE TOWN TO BUILD A NEW SIDEWALK ALONG NORTH WAS 10 AVENUE FROM WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE TO CENTRAL PARK AVENUE. AND A CONTRACT WAS SIGNED BY THE SUPERVISOR IN NOVEMBER, 2022. AND THIS SUPPORT SUPPORTED HIS EFFORT TO ENSURE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AT A COST TO TAXPAYERS NOT TO EXCEED $737,000 NORTH WASHINGTON AVENUE BEING A WHOLLY LOCAL ROAD AND NOT UNDER THE MANAGEMENT OF THE NEW YORK STATE. DOT AT COMPLETION, OVER A THIRD OF THE DISTANCE STILL REMAINS WITHOUT A SIDEWALK, AND THERE IS NO CURRENT PLANS TO COMPLETE IT. THE CONTRACTOR WAS PAID APPROXIMATELY $719,000. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHANGE ORDERS NOT RECOGNIZED AS SUCH BY THE PROJECT MANAGER, MOST OF WHICH ARE NOT RELATED TO THE ALLEGED STUMBLING BLOCK, A SWATH OF ROCK IN THE PATH. THE 63,000 TO REMOVE THIS ROCK IS INCLUDED IN THE WINNING BID. MY OBJECTIVE IS TO FORCE THE RETURN TO TAXPAYERS, THE NEAR $200,000 ATTRIBUTED TO THE SEC SIDEWALKS MIDSECTION REQUIRED TO FINISH THE SIDEWALK. A MISSION NEVER PERFORMED BY THE CONTRACTOR OR THE COMPLETION OF THE SIDEWALK AT NO ADDITIONAL COST TO SET TO TAX TO TAXPAYERS. AFTER MY NOVEMBER 25TH PUBLIC COMMENT WAS MADE. NOT ONE PERSON ON THE DAY HAD THEIR OWN COMMENT TO MAKE PUBLICLY OR PRIVATELY AFTERWARD, AND WEEKS LATER, THIS REMAINS THE CASE. MR. DANKO HAS RESPONDED TO MY FOIL APPEAL REQUESTING DOCUMENTS, WHICH MIGHT SUPPORT THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING IN ITS STATEMENT THAT THE ENTIRE SIDEWALK WAS NEVER INTENDED. MR. DANKO HAS STATED THAT I'VE RECEIVED EVERYTHING, THE TOWN HAS HIS BEEN POSSESSION, AND THEREFORE THE APPEAL HAS BEEN SATISFIED. SO THERE IS NOTHING TO SUPPORT THE POSITION TAKEN BY THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING AND OR DPW, WHICH REMAINS SILENT THROUGHOUT. SO TONIGHT I'M ASKING EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, MR. FINER, MS. JACKSON, MS. HENDRICKS, AND THE NEW MEMBER JOY HABER, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC AS TO WHAT HAPPENED. MR. SHEEHAN WAS NOT PHYSICALLY PRESENT AT THIS MEETING, ALTHOUGH I HOPE SOMEONE SHARED MY PACKET WITH HIM. AND AS A BONUS QUESTION, I'M ASKING MR. DANKO, THE TOWN ATTORNEY, IF HE HAS EARLY INSTRUCTED THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS NOT TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER, INSTRUCTIONS, PROTECTING THOSE WHO WOULD PERPETRATE AND PERPETUATE A FRAUD AGAINST GREENBERG TAXPAYERS. AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, YOU CAN BE PART OF THE SOLUTION OR PART OF THE PROBLEM. ANYONE WANNA ANSWER WHY YOU HAVE NOT DISCUSSED THIS MATTER? I I DO WANNA CORRECT YOU ON ONE, UH, ITEM OF THIS IS THAT WHEN WE DID HAVE OUR WORK SESSION, IT DID COME UP. I DID QUESTION IT. UM, I HAVE SUBSEQUENT, YES, I DID. UM, AND YOU'VE NOTED THAT TO ME. UM, AND I HAVE LOOKED AT THE INFORMATION YOU PROVIDED AND I DO HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT, AND I DO INTEND TO, UH, ASK FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. BUT WE HAVEN'T [02:05:01] GOTTEN ANY ANSWERS. NO, NOT YET. WHY IS THAT? PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE. WELL, NO, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY I'VE BEEN PRESENTING THIS STUFF TO THE TOWN FOR OVER SIX MONTHS. RIGHT, BUT YOU SAID THAT AS ME, MYSELF AS THE NEWEST MEMBER. SO THERE'S, YOU HAVE PEOPLE ELSE ON THE DA DAYS. WELL, I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF. YOU'VE SPOKEN WELL, AND I SAID THAT I PLAN, YOU SPOKEN TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION, BUT I'D ALSO LIKE TO HEAR FROM MR. FINER, THE TOWN SUPERVISOR. SURE. BECAUSE I MADE AN ALLEGATION THAT SOMEONE STOLEN $200,000. WELL, I THINK THAT IS COMMENDABLE THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING UP ON THIS AND YOU KNOW, JIM, YOU DO. I WALKED. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT THAT YOU'RE LOOKING THE . HOW ABOUT YOU MR. FEINER? ARE YOU FOLLOWING UP ON THIS? I, I, UH, SPOKE TO THE COMMISSIONER AND I'M ALSO WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, HAPPY TO, UH, PARTNER WITH YOU AND GET AS MUCH INFORMATION AS AS POSSIBLE. WELL, YOU SPOKE TO COMMISSIONER. WHAT DID YOU LEARN? I DON'T, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE NOT DONE WITH, UH, THE REVIEW. WE'RE STILL, OH, WHEN CAN I EXPECT THAT? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT, MR. SELLERS. WHEN CAN I EXPECT THE REVIEW TO BE FINISHED IN A, IN A TIMELY MANNER? I, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REPLY THAT IN TERMS OF THE FOIL APPEAL, FOIL LAW SPECIFICALLY STATES THAT WITHIN 10 BUSINESS DAYS OF THE RECEIPT OF SUCH APPEAL THAT THE TOWN SHOULD FULLY EXPLAIN IN WRITING TO THE PERSON REQUESTING THE RECORD, THE REASONS FOR FURTHER DENIAL OR PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE RECORD SOUGHT, THE RECORDS SOUGHT WERE PROVIDED TO THE CLERK WHO THEN DISTRIBUTED TO THE APPLICANT. I BELIEVE WE FULLY COMPLIED WITH FOIL LAW IN TERMS OF THE LETTER BEING READ INTO THE RECORD TONIGHT. UM, THAT IS A, THE CHAIR OF THE HISTORIC BOARD WHO SPECIFICALLY ASKED THAT IT BE READ IN RESPONSE TO A RESOLUTION TONIGHT, BELIEVE THAT'S PROPER. AND I BELIEVE A TOWN BOARD MEMBER HAS THE ABILITY TO READ THAT INTO THE RECORD IF THEY SO CHOOSE. OKAY. SO, AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO JUST COMMENT TO YOUR PRIOR, UM, YOUR, YOUR PRIOR ALLEGATIONS AS IT WERE. BUT AARON HARWOOD FROM THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, HE PRESENTED ON THE WHOLE MATTER TO US ALL. MAYBE IT WASN'T TO YOUR PERSONAL SATISFACTION, BUT I SUGGEST THAT THE, THE SUPERVISOR AND AND MY FELLOW COUNSEL WOMAN REREAD THAT ALONG WITH ME. AND, UM, AND IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OF MR. HARTWOOD, WE CAN GO BEYOND THAT. BUT I THINK THAT HE EXPLAINED IT RATHER ADEQUATELY AT THE TIME IN MY PACKET WAS INFORMATION FROM THAT PRESENTATION AND IT'S ALL FALSE. WELL, THANK YOU MR. SAM. WE'VE, WE'VE REACHED OUR FIVE MINUTES. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKER TONIGHT? WELL, WE'RE HAVING A DIALOGUE HERE. HONOR, WE, YOU'VE HAD DIALOGUE WITH OTHER PEOPLE. THERE'S PUBLIC COMMENT, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THEM. THERE ARE ANOTHER, NO OTHER, UM, UH, SPEAKERS WHO HAVE SIGNED IN. UM, TERRANCE. ARE THERE ANY MORE ONLINE? SO I'M NOT TAKING ANYONE'S TIME OFF, AM I, MR. SAMS, YOU HAD A LOT OF TIME TO SPEAK TONIGHT AND IT'S UP TO THE BOARD IF THEY WISH TO MOVE TO THE REST OF THE TIME. YEAH, AND YOU KNOW, THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS WHEN PEOPLE MAKE COMMENTS, WE FOLLOW IT UP. AND IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE LISTEN, WE REFLECT ON WHAT PEOPLE SAY AND THEN WE'RE DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND EVERYBODY HAS TO FEEL SOME, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT, UM, FEEL COMFORTABLE INITIALLY WITH A RESPONSE AND PEOPLE BRING UP THINGS AND THEN WE WANT TO DOUBLE CHECK AND TRIPLE CHECK. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE TOWN DID ANYTHING WRONG OR THAT YOU'RE AGREEING, BUT BASICALLY YOU'RE LOOKING INTO WHAT WAS, UH, COMPLAINED ABOUT. AND THEN WE WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'LL MAKE A DECISION ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. RIGHT? AND IN A MANNER THAT IS, UM, UH, DOABLE FOR THE TOWN BOARD AND ALL THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE ARE CONSIDERING AT THIS POINT, INCLUDING THE BUDGET. I, NO, I THINK IT'S COMMENDABLE THAT YOU'RE FOLLOWING UP ON IT. UM, [ Town Council Aide, Joan Dudek will be retiring after twenty-two plus years of service to the Town, effective December 31, 2024] UM, AND NEXT, UH, ANNOUNCEMENT. UH, UH, JOAN ECK, WHO'S BEEN WORKING FOR THE TOWN FOR 22 PLUS YEARS, SHE'S GONNA BE RETIRING DECEMBER 31ST AND WE WISH HER WELL AND THANK HER FOR HER, UH, YEARS OF, UM, DEDICATED SERVICE TO THE COMMUNITY. UH, [ Appointment of Holly Cancro, as Town Council Aide, effective January 1, 2025] WE ALSO, UM, ARE FORTUNATE THE TOWN BOARD IS GONNA BE, UM, APPOINTING HOLLY CAN GROW AS TOWN COUNCIL AIDE, EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2025. UM, UM, HOLLY IS NO STRANGER TO THE TOWN. UM, SHE WORKED IN THE TOWN CLERK'S OFFICE, UM, I THINK SINCE HIGH SCHOOL. YOU KNOW, SHE WORKED MANY, MANY YEARS AND, UM, HAS A FANTASTIC, UH, WORK ETHIC, A GREAT, UH, YOU KNOW, PERSONALITY. I THINK SHE'S GONNA BE A GREAT ADDITION TO THE TOWN COUNCIL. JOAN HAS BEEN A, A WONDERFUL ADDITION AND SHE'S TAUGHT ME A LOT SINCE I'VE JOINED THE, THE BOARD. AND WE CAN ALWAYS, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ABLE TO RELY ON HER AND HER KNOWLEDGE OF 22 YEARS. UM, AND IF [02:10:01] I CAN THINK OF NO OTHER BETTER PERSON THAN HOLLY TO REPLACE HER, WHO HAS AS, AS THE SUPERVISOR MENTIONED, GROWN UP WITH GREENBERG AND WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH JOAN AND THEY WERE ABLE TO, UM, THEY'LL, I BELIEVE BE ABLE TO SEAMLESS SEAMLESSLY, UH, TRANSFER OVER AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO CONTINUE WORKING WITHOUT A SPEED BUMP. SO DO WE HAVE TO MOVE THE APPOINTMENT OF, UH, HOLLY CONROW? YES. UM, AS TOWN COUNCIL LATER? I'D LIKE THIS'S MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE AYE. APPOINTMENT OF ED WEINBERG [ Appointment of Ed Weinberg to the Planning Board as an Alternate Member, for a term to start January 1, 2025 and to expire December 31, 2025] TO THE PLANNING BOARD AS AN ALTERNATE MEMBER FOR A TERM TO START JANUARY 1ST, 2025 AND TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST, 2025. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UM, A [ TB 1 - 12/11/2024 Resolution ratifying a Memorandum of Agreement with the International Brotherhood of Teamsters Local 456 effective January 1, 2023 through December 31, 2026] RESOLUTION GRATIFYING A MEMO OF AGREEMENT WITH THE INTERNATIONAL BROTHERHOOD OF TEAMSTERS LOCAL 4 5 6 EFFECTIVE JANUARY 1ST, 2023 TO, UH, DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT A SECOND. YOU JUST MIGHT ALSO MENTION THAT IT IS RETROACTIVE TO 2023. THEY'VE BEEN WITHOUT A CONTRACT AND ACTING AS PART OF THE PAST CONTRACT DURING THAT TIME. RIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. SUPERVISOR, IF YOU COULD PLEASE READ THE, UM, NUMBER OF EACH BILL AS WELL. OKAY. THAT'S STEVE. B ONE [ TB 2 - 12/11/2024 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh authorizing the Town Supervisor to execute a Release of Easement Agreement between the Zakrzewski Living Trust, by Richard and Barbara Zakrzewski as trustees, and the Town of Greenburgh related to property located at 65 Marion Avenue (Held over to Town Board Meeting of 1/08/2025)] TWO IS BEING HELD OVER [ AT 1 - 12/11/2024 Resolution authorizing settlement of property damage related Claim, File No.: 62/24C by Salvatore Pansarella, for an amount not to exceed $175] A T ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT OF PROPERTY DAMAGE RELATED CLAIM FILE NUMBER 62 24 C BY SALVATORE ELLA FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $175. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. [ AT 2 - 12/11/2024 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Elmsford Norse Associates for property located at 1-15 E. Main Street. The Town’s share of the refund is $368±; the County’s share is $2,742±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $400±; the Elmsford Union Free School District’s share is $16,702±. Refunds from all sources total $20,211±] RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX, TERTIARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER ELMSFORD NORRIS, UM, ASSOCIATES FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE 15 EAST MAIN STREET. TOTAL AMOUNT IS 20,211. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. A 82 A T TWO. I'M SORRY. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. A THREE, [ AT 3 - 12/11/2024 Resolution approving the continued retention of Thomas J. Troetti, Esq., to represent Greenburgh Police Officer Jason Vlasaty, Greenburgh Police Officer Joanny James, Sergeant Dyana Albano in the matter of Patrick A. Navas v. The Town of Greenburgh, et al, for an amount not to exceed $25,000, $75,000 in total] UH, RESOLUTION OF APPROVING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF THOMAS TI, UH, TO REPRESENT GREENBURG POLICE OFFICER JASON BLA, UM, GREENBURG POLICE OFFICER JONI JAMES, SERGEANT DEANNA ALBANO AND THE MATTER OF PATRICK NOVICE VERSUS TOWN OF GREENBURG. THE AMOUNT IS NOT TO EXCEED 25,075,000 IN TOTAL. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. A AYE. [ AT 4 - 12/11/2024 Resolution approving the continued retention of the law firm of Morris Duffy Alonso Faley & Pitcoff to represent the Town of Greenburgh in the matter of Patrick A. Navas v. The Town of Greenburgh, et al, for an amount not to exceed $25,000, $50,000 in total] A T FOUR, UH, RESOLUTION APPROVING CONTINUED RETENTION OF LAW FIRM OF MORRIS DUFFY L AV, FALEY AND TUFF TO REPRESENT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IN THE MATTER OF PATRICK NOVIS VERSUS TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 25,050 THOUSANDS TOTAL. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UH, [ CL 1 - 12/11/2024 Resolution authorizing closing Edgemont Road, from Round Hill Road to the triangle with Edgemont Place, for the Edgemont Community Council to hold its Annual Menorah Lighting Event at Crane’s Pond on Thursday, December 26, 2024, from 4:30 PM until 6:30 PM] C ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CLOSING EDGE, ONE ROAD FROM ROUND HALL ROAD TO TRIANGLE WITH EVERYONE. PLACE FOR THE EDWIN COMMUNITY COUNCIL TO HOLD ITS ANNUAL, UM, MEDORA LIGHTING EVENT AT CRANE'S POND ON THURSDAY, DECEMBER 26TH FROM FOUR 30 TO 6:30 PM I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. UM, [ CL 2 - 12/11/2024 Resolution awarding bid to Graphic Image Inc. for the Printing and Typesetting of the Town of Greenburgh’s Spring/Summer 2025 and Fall/Winter 2025/2026 Guides to Programs, Activities and Services, for an amount not to exceed $19,000] CL TWO RESOLUTION AWARDING BID TO GRAPHIC IMAGE FOR THE PRINTING AND TYPE SETTING OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, SPRING SUMMER 2025 AND FALL, WINTER 2025 2026. PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, AND SERVICES FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 19. NO, WE'RE HOLDING THAT OVER. THAT'S GONNA BE HELD OVER. WAIT, WAIT. RIGHT? YES. YES. OKAY. UM, UH, SEE ALL THREE RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 8TH TO CONSIDER. WE'RE HOLDING OVER C TWO TO THE, UH, TO THE NEXT MEETING, RIGHT? THE 16TH. YEAH. SO WE NEED, WE NEED MORE INFORMATION. RIGHT, RIGHT. SO, C3 [ CL 3 - 12/11/2024 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, January 8, 2025, at 7:30 PM, to consider a local law amending Chapter 248 "Stormwater Management" of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh regulating non-stormwater discharges to the Municipal Separate Storm Sewer System (MS4)] RESOLUTION, SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 8TH, UM, AT SEVEN 30 TO CONSIDER LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER 2 48, STORM WATER MANAGEMENT OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG REGULATING NON STORM WATER DISCHARGES TO THE MUNICIPAL SEPARATE STORM SEWER SYSTEM. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. [ CL 4 – 12/11/2024 Resolution authorizing closing Parkway Homes Road between Parkway Homes Road and the intersection of Ethelton Road, Stone Avenue and Washington Street, on Saturday, December 14, 2024 (Rain date: December 15, 2024), from 3:00 PM until 7:00 PM, for the Parkway Homes Civic Association to hold a Christmas Tree Lighting Event] UH, C FOUR, UH, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CLOSING PARKWAY HOMES ROAD BETWEEN PARKWAY HOMES ROAD, AND THEN INTERSECTION OF ETHERTON ROAD, STONE AVENUE, AND WASHINGTON STREET ON SAT SATURDAY, DECEMBER 14TH, UM, FROM THREE TO 7:00 PM FOR THE PARKWAY HOME CIVIC ASSOCIATION, TOLD CHRISTMAS TREE LIGHTING EVENT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. I, UH, PUTTING [ CD 1 - 12/11/2024 Resolution adopting a Local Law amending Chapter 235 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh, entitled “Historic Districts and Landmarks,” as it relates to the composition of the Historic & Landmarks Preservation Board and as it relates to various aspects of historic districts and landmarks] OVER CD ONE, UM, UH, [ CO 1 - 12/11/2024 Resolution authorizing Fiscal Year 2024 budget transfers] CON RESO, CO2 ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING ONE WILL BE HELD OVER UNTIL THE 16TH AS WELL, RIGHT? MM-HMM . RESOLUTIONS AUTHORIZING FISCAL YEAR 2024. BUDGET TRANSFERS. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. [ CO 2 - 12/11/2024 Resolution approving a budget amendment for Fiscal Year 2024 to the Tax Increment Finance (TIF) fund and the Capital Fund for Fairview Park Drive Bridge repair] RESOLUTION APPROVING A BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR FISCAL YEAR 2024 TO THE TAX INCREMENT FINANCE TIFF FUND AND THE CAPITAL FUND FOR [02:15:01] FAIRVIEW PARK DRIVE BRIDGE REPAIR. UM, I'D LIKE TO, UM, MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UM, I'M JUST LOOKING, UH, UH, DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH THE, UH, THE TAX, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE, THE FIRST, I GUESS USE OF THE T FUND AND LIKE A WHILE. I'M JUST, UM, WONDERING AGAIN WHAT THE, WHAT THE QUEST IS? YEAH. I DUNNO. I DON'T REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY, COULD YOU, COULD YOU SPEAK INTO A MIC PLEASE? JUST SO IT COULD COME? YEAH. I WAS JUST, UH, I DON'T HAVE, UH, THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF ME, BUT, UM, THAT'S, IT'S, I COULD, I COULD SEND YOU AN EMAIL IN THE MORNING HOW MUCH MONEY THEY REQUESTED HERE, BUT THIS, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY NICE BECAUSE WE, I'VE ALWAYS COMPLAINED THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN USING THE TIF FUND, RIGHT? SO NOW WE'RE USING IT, WE'RE USING THE TIF FUND. IT, IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT $1,263,991. OKAY, GOOD. SO THAT'S GOOD. AT LEAST. YEAH. IT'S IN THE PACKET. NO, BUT I'M, I'M THRILLED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING THE TIF FUND BECAUSE EVERYBODY WAS COMPLAINING THAT WE HAD A TIF FUND AND MONEY WAS JUST ACCUMULATING AND ACCUMULATING AND, YOU KNOW, IT WASN'T BEING USED. SO I THINK THIS IS REALLY GREAT. UM, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. YEAH. THREE BIDDER. WE DID THAT ALREADY. YEAH, WE, WE ALREADY VOTED ON THAT. OKAY. GOOD. UH, ALL IN FAVOR? WE DID THAT. WE VOTED ON THAT. PO ONE, PO ONE [ PO 1 - 12/11/2024 Resolution adopting the recommendation of the Greenburgh Police Department to amend the parking restrictions on Washington Place amending the Code of the Town of Greenburgh Chapter 460] ONE, UH, ADOPTING RECOMMENDATION OF GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT TO AMEND THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS ON WASHINGTON PLACE, AMENDING THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG CHAPTER FOUR 60. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT ALL IN FAVOR? SECOND. AYE. AYE. PO , DON'T RUSH IT. YEAH. [ PO 2 - 12/11/2024 Resolution adopting the recommendation of the Greenburgh Police Department to amend the parking restrictions on Palisade Avenue amending the Code of the Town of Greenburgh Chapter 460] PO TWO, UH, RESOLUTION ADOPTING THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT TO AMEND THE PARKING RESTRICTIONS ON, UM, PALISADE, UM, AVENUE AMENDING THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG CHAPTER FOUR 60. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. [ PO 3 - 12/11/2024 Resolution adopting the recommendations of the Greenburgh Police Department to remove parking restrictions on Sinclair Place amending Chapter 460 of the Greenburgh Town Code] RELU P OH THREE RESOLUTION, ADOPTING THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT TO REMOVE PARKING RESTRICTIONS ON SINCLAIR PLACE, AMENDING CHAPTER FOUR 60 OF THE GREENBURG, UH, TOWN CODE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. [ PO 4 - 12/11/2024 Resolution awarding a contract for Architectural and Engineering Services related to the preparation and execution of a Greenburgh Town Court Building & Police Department Headquarters Facilities Master Plan to Ronnette Riley Architect, for an amount not to exceed $135,100 (Held over to Town Board Meeting of 12/16/2024)] I JUST HAD A QUESTION ABOUT P OH FOUR. I THINK THAT IT SHOULDN'T BE HELD OVER TILL, UH, 1216, BUT WE SHOULD BASICALLY, UM, PUT IT OVER TO THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY. AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT IS, UM, I REACHED OUT TO, UM, UH, NANCY KABUL, UH, EARLIER TODAY MM-HMM . AND, UM, AND SHE BASICALLY, UH, SAID THAT IF PART OF THE BUDGET, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE ON, GONNA BE THE, A BUDGET, THE VILLAGES SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, UH, TO HEAR, YOU KNOW, TO HEAR A PRESENTATION. I ALSO FEEL THAT, UM, THE THREE JUDGES, BUT NOT THE JUDGES, THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR WILL JOIN THE WON'T BE INVOLVED. RIGHT. BUT, UM, BUT NOT THE JUDGES. RIGHT. BUT IF I'M, BUT I, I ALSO FEEL THAT, UH, WHEN I SAW, SPOKE TO JUDGE GRIT, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, ON, ON FRIDAY MM-HMM . AND SHE WAS SURPRISED. AND I SORT FEEL IF WE'RE DEALING WITH THE COURTS AND WE'RE DEALING WITH, UM, THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS, THAT THERE SHOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, A COMMUNITY MEETING. YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ASKING TO SPEND $135,100 ON A STUDY. UM, AND I THINK THE STUDY MAKES SENSE, AND I THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE BUY-IN FROM THE COMMUNITY. SO IF WE BASICALLY HAVE A MEETING, UM, IN, UM, IN EARLY JANUARY THAT THE FIRST MEETING, AND WE BASICALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION AND WE EXPLAIN TO THE COMMUNITY WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AND WHY THIS STUDY IS DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE OTHER STUDIES THAT WE'VE DONE FOR THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, UM, THEN I THINK PEOPLE WILL BUY IN AND HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE IN THE PROCESS. YOU KNOW, COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON SAID, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SHE'S BEEN MENTIONING IT. SHE SAID, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SO MANY STUDIES RELATING TO THE POLICE AND COURTHOUSE OVER THE PAST FIVE OR 10 YEARS, AND NOTHING'S MATERIALIZED. SO WHY IS THIS STUDY DIFFERENT THAN OTHERS? SO I THINK THAT IF WE EXPLAIN IT, IF WE, IF PEOPLE, UM, GET A CHANCE TO ASK QUESTIONS, I THINK THAT THERE'LL BE MORE BUY-IN. AND I THINK THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, SOMETHING WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN. I'M, I'M REALLY, SO YOU'RE HOLDING OVER THE HOLD. I THINK THAT'S FAIR. YEAH. SO WHY DON'T, SO I'D, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD FOR PERMISSION TO SCHEDULE THE MEETING AT THE, THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY. WELL, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUBLIC INPUT, WE WERE JUST SAYING THE FIRST MEETING. WHAT? THAT'S THE 12TH. MM-HMM . IT IS 12TH OF FEBRUARY IS NO, JANUARY. JANUARY. WE HAVE TO MEETING ON JANUARY 8TH. SUPERVISOR, YOU DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO HOLD OVER THAT. NO, I DON'T HAVE DISCUSSION. NO. BUT ON, ON MONDAY'S MEETING, ACCORDING TO OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS, NO, BECAUSE IT SAYS HELD OVER TO TOWN BOARD MEETING OF 1216, IT'S ALREADY HELD OVER. THAT'S CORRECT. BUT YOU WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO ONCE AGAIN, HOLD IT OVER ACCORDING TO OUR RULES AND REGULATIONS. YOU WOULD NOT. NO, I CAN'T. YOU CAN ONLY HOLD IT OVER ONCE. I'VE, I'M, I'VE HELD IT THIS, I ALREADY, I, IF THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD WANTS IT TO BE HELD OVER TO A LATER DATE, THAT'S WE VOTE. [02:20:02] AND I, I, I AGREE. MY ONLY COMMENT IS, WHY DIDN'T YOU MENTION THIS YESTERDAY? WHEN WE DID DUE, THE, THE REASON I DIDN'T MENTION IT IS I DIDN'T THINK OF IT. UM, AND, UM, AND, AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS EARLY THIS MORNING I WAS READING, YOU KNOW, MY NOTES, AND THEN I, I, YEAH. I HAPPEN TO SEE SOMETHING FROM, YOU KNOW, NANCY KALE, AND I SAID, UH OH, WE'RE GONNA GET IN TROUBLE AGAIN. POINT, WELL, POINT TAKEN IS TO MAKE IT A MORE INCLUSIVE MEETING. SO ARE WE IN FAVOR OF HOLDING IT OVER UNTIL THE JANUARY MEETING? WELL, WELL, BY THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY. WELL, WE HAVE HAD TIME TO HAVE, RIGHT. THAT'S I THINK THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY. PROBABLY. WE COULD DO THE SECOND MEETING. WHATEVER YOU WANT. WELL, THE SECOND, AGAIN, THE SECOND MEETING WE JUST HELD OVER ANOTHER. RIGHT, RIGHT. AND THEN WE HAVE A MAJOR PRESENTATION FOR ODELL HOUSE. SO, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, WELL, WHAT I THINK A PRESENT, ANOTHER PRESENTATION THAT COULD BE PUBLIC. NO, WHILE WE COULD, WHAT I THINK WE COULD DO IS AT THE FIRST MEETING, AND WE'RE GONNA, THE BUDGET'S GONNA BE DONE NEXT WEEK. SO AT THE FIRST MEETING, THE FIRST TUESDAY MEETING IN JANUARY THE EIGHTH, WE COULD HAVE AN EVENING, UH, DISCUSSION AND WE COULD INVITE, YOU KNOW, THE VILLAGES TO ATTEND. OKAY. AND THEN THEY COULD BA AND WE COULD DO IT AT THE WORK SESSION. MEAN DURING THE WORK SESSION? DURING THE WORK SESSION. AND THEN, AND THEN BASICALLY WE COULD, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW I COULD SAY, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ASK, UM, UH, THE POLICE AND THE, AND THE CONSULTANTS TO MEET WITH ANY, THEY'LL HAVE A COUPLE WEEKS BETWEEN NOW AND, UH, THE FIRST MEETING IN JANUARY. SO IF ANYONE WANTS TO, BUT THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE A COUPLE WEEKS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GONE. NO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT IT. RIGHT. THAT'S, THAT'S MY FEELING. I MEAN, I, WE COULD DO IT THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, WHICH IS FINE. NO, WE CAN'T THINK BECAUSE ABOUT, I, I, I JUST THINK WE ARE OVERLOADING THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY I'M TALKING ABOUT. BUT WE COULD DO, WE COULD HAVE, IF WE VOTE ON IT THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY, UH, WE COULD BASICALLY, I'LL JUST VOTE ON IT. WE COULD HAVE A, WE COULD HAVE A PRESENTATION, UH, TO THE VILLAGE OFFICIALS ANYTIME BEFORE THAT. DO YOU WANNA DO IT THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY? THEN, THEN IT GIVES EVERYBODY TIME AND NOBODY, THEN IT GIVES THE VILLAGES TIME TO COME UP WITH A DATE THAT'S GOOD FOR THEM. OKAY. OKAY. SO, SO I IN, WAIT, WAIT. HOLD ON A SECOND. I THINK COUNCILMAN SHEEN WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING. ALRIGHT, SO JUST THE WAY THE CALENDAR RUNS, UH, THE FIRST MEETING, OUR FIRST MEETING WOULD BE ON THE EIGHTH, WHICH MEANS OUR FIRST WORK SESSION WOULD BE ON THE SEVENTH. MM-HMM . UH, WE WOULD BE HAVING THAT DISCUSSION WITH THE RESOLUTION ALREADY ON THE AGENDA. I MEAN, IT IS POSSIBLE TO DO THAT ON THE SEVENTH IF YOU WANT TO HOLD IT UNTIL THE MEETING OF THE 22ND. UH, WE HAVE A CHOICE OF EITHER THE WORK SESSION OF THE SEVENTH GOAL, THE 14TH RIGHT. TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION. AND I THINK THAT GIVES US A BETTER OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THAT. SO I WOULD PROPOSE WE DO, UM, WE ACTUALLY, UM, RESCHEDULE THIS. I'LL GO AND HOLD OVER, BUT WE RESCHEDULE THIS MEANING TO THE 22ND. I THINK THAT'S GOOD. YEAH, I AGREE. EXCELLENT. OKAY. EXCELLENT POINT. YOU'RE IN AGREEMENT. GOOD. WITH AN, WITH AN INVITATION TO THE PARTIES. UH, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN OFFICIAL VOTE ON THE 14TH. OKAY. DO YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION? YEAH. WITH, SO I, SO I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE, UH, UH, HOLD OVER P FOUR TO, UH, JANUARY 22ND. SECOND. OKAY. SECOND. WITH, WITH A DISCUSSION WITH A MEETING, UH, UH, JANUARY 14TH. OKAY. RIGHT. RIGHT. BUT THIS THE WAY THE, THE MAYORS COULD ATTEND THE MEETING ON JANUARY 14TH, OR THEY COULD SCHEDULE WITH THE PRESENTATION IF THEY WANT, WITH THE PRESENTATION RIGHT ON JANUARY 14TH BY THE CONSULTANT TO WHOMEVER WANTS TO ATTEND. I THINK THIS IS EXCELLENT. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECONDED IT. WE HAVE A CONSULTANT. I MEAN, WE, WE WHERE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE RETAINING THE CONSULTANT. YEAH. WE CAN'T HAVE A CONSULTANT DO A PRESENTATION CONSULTANT. WELL, WE HAVE TO HAVE A PRE PRESENTATION BY THE COMMISSIONER. BY THE COMMISSIONER ABOUT THE CONSULTANTS. RIGHT. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. OKAY. WELL ALSO, WE HAVEN'T SELECTED THE CONSULTANTS. THIS IS A SECOND INTERVIEW ALMOST. WELL, I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE GONNA, NO, I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A RECOMMENDATION. I THINK WE'VE HAD RECOMMENDATIONS. WELL, WE'LL FIGURE OUT THE DETAILS. WE AWARD AWARDING A CONTRACT. THAT'S THE WHOLE PART, PART RESOLUTION. RIGHT. UM, SO WE'VE ACTUALLY SELECTED, UM, WELL, WE HAVEN'T SELECTED ANYBODY UNTIL WE VOTE ON IT. SO THE THING IS, UH, I SORT OF FEEL THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION MADE RIGHT. BASED ON EXTENSIVE INTERVIEWS. RIGHT. BUT ON OTHER HAND, THERE'S NOTHING FINAL UNTIL WE VOTE. SO WE COULD ALWAYS CALL THE CONSULTANTS, SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE'S MAYORS, THERE'S, UM, THE, THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR, THEY MAY HAVE QUESTIONS AND THEN WE'LL MAKE A DECISION. AND IF EVERYTHING GOES RIGHT, THEN WE WILL, UM, APPROVE THE, THE CONTRACT. SO I, I THINK THAT WE PROBABLY COULD GET THEM, UH, TO SHOW UP. IT COULD EVEN BE A ZOOM MEETING, AND THEN THEY COULD SAY WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO. I THINK THAT THAT'S REASSURING. ARE YOU SUGGESTING WE HAVE ALL FOUR CONSULTANTS PRESENTED THEM? NO, [02:25:01] NO. JUST THE ONE THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING. OH, OKAY. THEY'RE THE FINALIST. THE MAIN THING IS THAT WE'RE, YES. SO LET'S VOTE ON YES. SECOND. AND WE'RE INVITING ANY, UH, ANY STAKEHOLDERS TO GREAT PRESENTATION ON THE 14TH. CORRECT. OKAY. SECOND. ALL FAVOR. AYE. AYE. OKAY. LET'S SEE. UH, PW ONE RESOLUTION PW ONE. YEAH. [ PW 1 - 12/11/2024 Resolution authorizing the award of bids for Water Treatment Chemicals to the lowest responsible bidders for 2025] TW PW ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE BOARD OF, UH, BIDS OF WATER OF TREATMENT CHEMICALS TO THE LOWEST, UM, RESPONSIBLE BIDDERS FOR 2025. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UM, UM, THE, [ PW 2 - 12/11/2024 Resolution awarding the contract for the Fairview Park Drive Over Saw Mill River Bridge Repairs to Structural Preservation Systems, LLC, the lowest responsible bidder, for a total base bid amount of $1,263,991] THE MINOR THING, PW TWO RESOLUTION AWARDING THE CONTRACT FOR THE FAIRVIEW PARK DRIVE OVER SOME MILL RIVER BRIDGE PIERCE TO STRUCTURAL PRESERVATION SYSTEMS, UH, FOR A TOTAL AMOUNT OF 1 MILLION 2 63 9 91. MY, THERE'S YOUR AMOUNT. THAT WAS A JOKE WHEN I SAID MINOR SECOND. WELL, IN FAVOR. AYE. UH, I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN. SECOND IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.