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TO LEAVESO, UH, WELCOME TARA TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.
AND, UM, FIRST, UM, ITEM THAT, UM, WAS ASKED TO BE DISCUSSED WAS THE PROPOSED, UM, IS THE, ACTUALLY THE 2025 GREENBERG TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
THIS IS A COMMITTEE I HAVE SPOKEN TO, UM, LUCAS A FEW MONTHS AGO.
UM, LUCAS HEADED UP, UM, A TRAFFIC, UM, SAFETY COMMITTEE A FEW YEARS AGO.
UM, AND THE COMMITTEE WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN MOTIVATING AND INSPIRING TOWN, UM, OFFICIALS TO GIVE SAFETY ISSUES PRIORITY ATTENTION.
SO WE'VE, IN THE PAST NUMBER OF YEARS, WE'VE IMPROVED CROSSWALKS.
UM, WE'VE IMPROVED, UM, WE BUILT, UH, OR FUNDED ABOUT 12 MILES OF NEW SIDEWALKS.
AND I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE THERE WAS A GROUNDSWELL OF SUPPORT FROM, UH, FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR THAT INITIATIVE.
UM, ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, WE BASICALLY HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS IN MAKING, UM, GREENBERG MORE PEDESTRIAN, YOU KNOW, FRIENDLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, NEXT YEAR PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE, WITHIN TWO YEARS, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK FROM, UH, THE HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION, UM, TO THE LIBRARY AND POSSIBLY TO THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE.
AND ON DOPPS FERRY ROAD TO TOWN HALL, ALL ON, ON SIDEWALKS.
THERE'S A LOT OF ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC SAFETY INITIATIVES THAT HAVE TO, UH, BE MET.
YOU KNOW, UH, AFTER LUCAS, UM, DRAFTED HIS, UM, MEMO, WE GOT A, A MEMO FROM, UH, AN EMAIL FROM THE HARTSDALE CANINE CEMETERY, UM, THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY.
WE'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH PEOPLE IN EAST IRVINGTON.
THEY HAD SAFETY, UM, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS.
THERE'S PEOPLE ON OLD TARRYTOWN ROAD, THEY WOULD LIKE A SIDEWALK HERE ON RUM BROOK, UM, A, A PARK, UH, NOW THAT THERE'S LIGHTING, UM, THERE'S A NEED TO PUT SIDEWALKS, UM, FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO, TO THE PARK, BECAUSE THE LITTLE LEAGUE IS GONNA BE, UH, USING IT MORE.
SO THERE'S AN AWFUL LOT OF WORK, AND WE HAVE TO, UM, GENERATE COMMUNITY SUPPORT, UM, FOR, WE HAVE TO GET FUNDING, WE HAVE TO GET GRANTS.
AND, UM, AND AGAIN, THIS COMMITTEE IS INDEPENDENT OF THE TOWN.
UH, I'M GONNA WORK WITH THE COMMITTEE, BUT THE COMMITTEE ISN'T ANSWER REPORTING TO ME.
THE COMMITTEE BASICALLY COULD AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH TOWN, YOU KNOW, TOWN STAFF, AND THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
IT'S DEMOCRACY, YOU KNOW, I, I, I ALSO LIKE THE IDEA OF INVOLVING MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS REALLY GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE.
WE'LL GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED.
CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN SOMETHING YOU SAID THAT THEY CAN AGREE OR JUST DISAGREE WITH THE TOWN STAFF? I'M SO CONFUSED.
THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT A TOWN COMMITTEE.
THIS IS AN INDEPENDENT CITIZENS COMMITTEE THAT CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THEY COULD MAKE, THEY COULD MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THEY COULD LOBBY, THEY COULD CRITICIZE, WHICH THE TOWN COULD THEN TAKE OR NOT TAKE UNDER.
THERE'S, THEY HAVE ZERO, UH, STATUS IN TERMS OF, AS AN OFFICIAL BODY OF THE TOWN, BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT A, SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO GIVE DIRECTORS TO OUR STAFF.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY COULD GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS.
THEY, BUT THEY CANNOT BE, IF THIS IS NOT A TIME TO REALLY, UM, BE VERY DEROGATORY TO OUR STAFF OR DO ANYTHING THAT IS NEGATIVE TO OUR STAFF, I'M PROTECTING OUR, I HAVE TO PROTECT OUR STAFF.
NO, BUT THE STAFF, NO, BUT I THINK THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE THEM, WHAT I, I'M HOPING IS THEY'LL IDENT HELP US, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THE COMMISSIONERS AND PRIORITIZING, YOU KNOW, THE, THE SAFETY ISSUES, UH, THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
BUT WHAT, WHAT ARE THE CREDENTIALS OF THE PEOPLE ON THIS COMMITTEE? BASICALLY, IF THEY'RE AS A CITIZEN AND SOMEBODY'S NERVOUS BECAUSE THEIR, UH, SON OR A DAUGHTER WHO ALMOST GOT KILLED BY, UH, A, A CAR AND THEY WANT TO JOIN THE COMMITTEE, THEY COULD JOIN THE COMMITTEE.
IF SOMEBODY'S ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, THEY COULD, THAT'S A CRITERIA.
THE CRITERIA, BECAUSE IT'S A CITIZENS COMMITTEE.
CITIZENS HAVE A RIGHT TO EXPRESS THEMSELVES AND ADVOCATE.
THAT'S, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT.
WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE THAT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS, AND WHAT COUNCIL, BOTH COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE ASKING IS, WHAT ARE THE QUALIFICATIONS? WHAT ARE YOU ASKING FOR? ARE YOU JUST ASKING FOR ANYONE TO JUST COME AND SAY, JOIN THIS COMMITTEE, BECAUSE YOU'VE MADE A COUPLE STATEMENTS.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT MY COMMITTEE.
UH, I'M BASICALLY WORKING WITH, LUCAS IS HERE IF, IF YOU WANNA, SO HE KEEP SAYING LUCAS, DOES HE HAVE A FULL NAME?
UM, HE WAS ACTUALLY, UM, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M SORT OF PLEASED BECAUSE HE WAS MY OPPONENT A FEW YEARS AGO AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED TOGETHER.
YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF SAYING, OH, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, UH, OPPONENTS AT ONE TIME, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING
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TOGETHER ON GETTING, UH, MORE LOCAL MEDIA.I, I WORKED ON HIS COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, HE'S, YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER SAID, YOU HAVE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF ME, OR I, I HAVE TO.
I SAY, I HAVE TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF YOU, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST WORKING TOGETHER TRYING TO MAKE THE TOWN, UH, YOU KNOW, BETTER.
AND, UH, THIS, AND I DON'T CARE WHO'S ON THE COMMITTEE AS LONG AS THE COMMITTEE ADVOCATES FOR, UM, FOR SAFETY.
AND IF WE COULD SAVE ONE LIFE, TO ME, IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S WORTH IT.
RIGHT? WHAT WE ALSO DON'T WANT IS FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO DUPLICATE EFFORTS OF OTHER, UH, SIMILAR TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEES AND TO PERHAPS, YOU KNOW, UNDERMINE THOSE COMMITTEES.
SO MAYBE THE, THE, THE JURISDICTIONS OF THE COMMITTEES SHOULD BE DEFINED.
I THINK THAT, FIRST OF ALL, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY HAS TO, YOU KNOW, WORK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WORK TOGETHER.
SO I KNOW FOR, I SPOKE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, DYLAN, WHO'S HERE, YOU KNOW, PINE YESTERDAY, UM, AND YOU KNOW, I MENTIONED THAT EVERY SAFETY INITIATIVE THAT THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN ADVOCATING I'VE SUPPORTED.
AND, UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR WE'RE GONNA DO, SO THIS IS OUTSIDE OF EDGEMONT, THEN THIS IS OUT, THIS IS ALL TOWN WIDE, TELE TOWN, BUT IT'S OUTSIDE OF EDGEMONT.
IS IT TOWN WIDE OR UNINCORPORATED? IT'S UNINCORPORATED.
AND IS IT UNINCORPORATED? OTHER THAN EDGEMONT, WHICH I HASN'T TOLD.
NO, THEY COULD, THEY COULD FOCUS ON ANY, UM, ANY SAFETY INITIATIVE.
I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE THAT A CONFLICT THOUGH, WITH THE EDGEMONT SAFETY COMMITTEE.
NO, BECAUSE BASICALLY THEY COULD BE COMPLIMENTING WHAT THE ECC IS, IS ADVOCATING.
SO WHY WOULD THEY WORK ALL TOGETHER? WE ALL BE WHY WE HAVE SO MANY SEPARATE COMMITTEES COMMITTEE.
THIS COMMITTEE IS NOT A COMMITTEE.
IT'S NOT AN OFFICIAL COMMITTEE OF THE TOWN OF SYSTEM.
YOU KEEP SAYING IT'S A C WHETHER IT'S A NON-OFFICIAL COMMITTEE, WHETHER IT'S AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, WHETHER IF IT'S A COMMITTEE FROM WHEREVER.
THE QUESTION IS, WHY WON'T THEY ALL WORK TOGETHER? WHY DO WE HAVE SEPARATE, UH, TRAFFIC COMMITTEES IF, IF EDGEMONT HAS ONE? AND, AND LUCAS, YOU'RE FROM EDGEMONT, WHY WON'T WE ALL WORK TOGETHER? SORRY, WON'T WE ALL WORK TOGETHER? AND IT'S NOT JUST AN EDGEMONT, AN EDGEMONT TRAFFIC SAFETY.
IT'S IN ALL INCORPORATED TRAFFIC.
WHY DON'T ASK LUCAS TO EXPLAIN, BECAUSE IT'S HIS COMMITTEE, NOT MY COMMITTEE.
AND MAYBE, MAYBE IF, UH, YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM LUCAS
MAYBE WE SHOULD HAVE DYLAN AND DYLAN COULD ALSO, HE'S MISSY.
JUST WANTED TO, I MEAN, HI EVERYONE.
SO, DYLAN, UH, SO LOUIS, YOU, YOU HEARD ALL OF THE UNPRECEDENTED NUMBER OF SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS WE'VE DONE WITH SIDEWALKS, AND YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE RED LIGHT COUNTER AND ALL THE REST.
WHAT WOULD YOUR COMMITTEE HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY? OR WHAT ARE WE DOING THAT YOU WOULD'VE RECOMMENDED AGAINST GOES? WELL, FIRST IT'S GOOD TO BE HERE AND APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THERE'S EVEN AN, A METHOD FOR TOWN SUPERVISOR TO CREATE A COMMITTEE.
UM, PAUL ASKED ME TO CHAIR THIS COMMITTEE IN 2020 AFTER HE DEFEATED ME IN AN ELECTION.
THAT WAS A WAY FOR US TO COME TOGETHER AND WORK TOGETHER.
AND WE HAD GREAT PARTICIPATION OVER ABOUT NINE MONTHS.
CREATED SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE TOWN BOARD, WORKED WITH TWO OTHER CO-CHAIRS, AND THERE WERE 20 MEMBERS OF THAT COMMITTEE.
AND EVERYBODY APPRECIATED THE WORK THAT WE DID, AND WE'RE GONNA BE DOING WORK SIMILAR IN THAT VEIN.
UM, WHEN I JOINED THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL ABOUT 20 MONTHS AGO, THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, IT WAS CALLED AT THE TIME, IT WAS DORMANT.
AND SO I WORKED WITH DYLAN AND WE COLLABORATED AND WE GOT THAT GOING AGAIN.
AND DYLAN AND I PAIRED AS A TEAM, CREATED SOME GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THE TOWN ACTED UPON THAT.
TO YOUR CREDIT, THAT WAS GREAT.
AND THERE'S MORE WORK TO BE DONE.
SO ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT EDGEMONT HAS PUT FORWARD.
I AGREE WITH, 'CAUSE I WROTE THAT DOCUMENT WITH DYLAN, AND WE HAD THE HELP OF A LOT OF PEOPLE IN EDGEMONT.
HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE PARTICIPATED IN 10 FORUMS THAT I HELD, PLUS WORKING WITH US.
IT'S, THE TOWN DID GREAT WORK.
I, I THINK YOU SHOULD ALL BE COMMENDED FOR GETTING MORE ACTIVE WITH EDGEMONT.
UM, THAT WAS KICKED OFF FROM A TRUCK SLAMMING INTO A TELEPHONE POLE WHEN KIDS WERE WALKING HOME ON OLD ARMY ROAD.
AND THAT TELEPHONE POLE WAS HANGING LIKE THIS.
AND THAT'S WHY I WENT TO DYLAN.
I SAID, LET'S MAKE SOMETHING HAPPEN.
SO, SO IS THIS CONTINUE? I'M, I'M CONFUSED THEN.
SO ARE YOU STILL WORKING WITH, IS IT THE SAME COMMITTEE? THIS IS THE ECC TRAFFIC AND SAFETY COMMITTEE.
THIS IS THE, THE COMMITTEE THAT PAUL FINER CREATED IN 2020.
SO WHICH COMMITTEE WAS THAT? IS THAT THE ECC TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE?
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THIS IS THE GREENBERG AD HOC TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.SO THERE'S ONE COMMITTEE THERE.
SO I, WHEN I, I LEARNED A LOT FROM THAT COMMITTEE.
UHHUH
SO I REALIZED WE GOTTA GO DEEPER LOCAL, AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID WITH EDGEMONT.
UM, SO WE STARTED THE TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE FOR EDGEMONT.
AND THAT COMMITTEE CONTINUES TODAY.
THE THIRD CO-CHAIR IS THERE NOW.
SO IT WAS ME AND THEN THOMAS LUNG, AND NOW PAUL WOOTEN.
PAUL WHO? PAUL WOOTEN WOOTEN COMMITTEE.
SO I SUPPORT WHAT THAT COMMITTEE'S DOING, AND THERE'S NEED FOR US TO DO MORE FOR EDGEMONT AND TOWN WIDE.
THERE'S, I WOULD SAY ABOUT ZERO RISK OF CONFLICT IN RECOMMENDATIONS COMING FROM THE ECC COMMITTEE.
AND WHAT, HOW SO? WELL, I AGREE WITH WHAT THE ECC COMMITTEE IS DOING, AND I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SOME DIFFERENT WORK.
I CAN EXPLAIN MAYBE, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU DO COMP PLANNING AT THE TOWN LEVEL FOR DEVELOPING DISTRICTS.
WE'RE GONNA, I THINK, DO MORE OF THAT 10,000 FOOT VIEW OF HOW TO MAKE A COMMUNITY MORE WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE ACROSS TOWN.
WE WILL TEACH OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHAT WE DID IN EDGEMONT, AND WE WILL, WE WILL ENGAGE.
THERE'S WHAT, WHAT KIND OF THINGS ARE YOU CONCERNED ABOUT HAPPENING AS MORE CITIZENS GET INVOLVED IN SHARING THEIR IDEAS? I THINK IT'S, I DON'T THINK IT'S
AS TO IF EDGEMONT IS WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW, HOW THERE, HOW THERE MIGHT NOT ARISE A CONFLICT BETWEEN THE TWO IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA OF THE TOWN.
UM, SO THAT CLARIFICATION WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ME.
I WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE, AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING IN WRITING THAT SPELLS OUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOUR, YOUR 2000 FOOT DOOR, 30,000 FOOT VIEW IS, UM, AND HOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO PREDICT WHAT, HOW, HOW WHEN THE EDGEMONT COM COMMUNITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE MOVES FORWARD AND WHEN YOU MOVE FORWARD, HOW THERE MIGHT NOT BE A CONFLICT.
AS MUCH AS YOU ARE SAYING THAT THERE WON'T BE, AND I, I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO CREATE THE POTENTIAL FOR CONFLICT.
SO I'D LIKE TO HAVE A MORE CLARITY ON THE DISTINCTION.
DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING ALREADY WRITTEN UP, LUCAS, OF WHAT YOUR VISION IS OF WHAT THIS IS? SO I'D SAY LET'S, WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE ORIGINAL MEMORANDUM THAT PAUL CREATED IN 2020.
WE WERE ACTIVE FOR NINE MONTHS.
THE COMMITTEE WAS NEVER DISBANDED.
AND WE'RE, IF, IF YOU READ THE BLAST THAT PAUL PUT OUT, WE'RE RECONVENING, WE'RE MAKING THAT COMMITTEE MORE ACTIVE AGAIN.
BUT THAT COMMITTEE WAS THE PERFECT POINT.
IF YOU READ THE BLAST THAT PAUL PUT OUT, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THE REST OF US ON THE TOWN BOARD LEARNED ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE IS THAT BLAST THAT EVERYBODY ELSE READ.
SO WHEN WE DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS OF THIS, IT'S BECAUSE WE WERE NOT INFORMED.
THE ONLY THING WE KNOW IS THE BLAST THAT PAUL PUT OUT STATING THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE A SAFETY COMMITTEE AND THAT YOU'RE GONNA CHAIR IT.
SO I'D SAY THIS IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
IT'S THE SAME COMMITTEE THAT YOU HEARD ABOUT WHEN PAUL ANNOUNCED IT FOUR YEARS AGO.
AND IT'S THE SAME COMMITTEE THAT GAVE YOU THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
I, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE CREATED FOUR YEARS AGO.
DO YOU HAVE IT HERE OR DO YOU HAVE THE LINK? I'D BE HAPPY TO, I HAVE IT.
SO IT WAS, IT, YOU DID NOT REALLY ANTICIPATE IT BEING ADVISORY.
'CAUSE ONE OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS IS THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD APPOINT A LEADERSHIP TEAM THAT OWNS TRAFFIC SAFETY FULL STOP.
LET'S CALL IT THE SAFETY NOW TEAM, FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE DOCUMENT, YOU THEN GO ON TO SAY THAT THE, SINCE THE SAFETY NOW TEAM IS THE FRONTLINE OF ACCOUNTABILITY, IT SHOULD NOT BE MANAGED BY ANYONE OR WORKED AROUND.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT WOULD HANDLE, IT WOULD OWN ANYTHING RELATED TO TRAFFIC SAFETY,
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WHICH IS NOW HOW TOWN GOVERNMENT WORKS.THE TOWN BOARD IS THE ONE THAT ULTIMATELY MAKES THE CALL.
AND WE HAVE WITH MANY, MANY, MANY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE VEHICLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
UM, AND YOU SAY, WELL, NOT MUCH OF THIS HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED.
YOU KNOW, THE RECOMMENDATION THERE WAS TO CREATE A SMALL GROUP THAT WOULD BASICALLY DICTATE WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN REGARDING TRAFFIC SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THAT'S JUST NOT HOW TOWN GOVERNMENT WORKS.
WELL, LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING.
FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS AN ADVISORY.
DO YOU DISAGREE THAT THAT'S YES.
BECAUSE BASICALLY THIS IS AN ADVISORY, LET ME SAY SOMETHING.
THIS IS AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
THIS IS NOT A TOWN APPOINTED COMMITTEE.
SO IT TO BE REWORDED BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? CHANGING, LET JUST SAY THIS.
THIS IS THIS, LET JUST LET ME SAY SOMETHING.
THIS IS TOTALLY INDEPENDENT CITIZENS COMMITTEE.
SO BASICALLY WHAT THE COMMITTEE COULD DO IS IDENTIFY AREAS WHERE THERE'S NEED FOR SAFETY.
THEY COULD BE, UH, LUCAS HAS TREMENDOUS SOCIAL MEDIA SKILLS.
UM, AND HE BASICALLY COULD BE USING IT TO GENERATE SUPPORT.
UM, WHEN THERE'S OPPOSITION TO, LET ME SAY, WHEN THERE'S OPPOSITION TO SAFETY INITIATIVES THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED, UH, WE COULD BE REACHING OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO BE SUPPORTIVE.
FOR EXAMPLE, THE LIGHT THAT THE BOARD FUNDED IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET ON, UM, ON FORT HILL AND ARDSLEY ROAD.
WE HAD MEETINGS SEVEN, EIGHT YEARS AGO.
THERE WAS WIDESPREAD OPPOSITION TO THE RE THE LIGHT AT THAT LOCATION.
PEOPLE WANTED THE BLINKING LIGHT, DYLAN, THE ECC, UH, PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, THEY BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF YEARS LATER THEY MET WITH THE RESIDENTS AND THEY GOT PEOPLE TO CHANGE THEIR MINDS AND TO BE SUPPORTIVE.
SO THAT WAS DONE BY THE EC COMMITTEE, BUT IT WAS DONE.
COMMUNITY, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
I DID IT WHEN I LED THE E COMMITTEE.
AND THEN TOGETHER, DYLAN PACKAGED IT UP IN A WAY THAT THE TOWN BOARD CAN ACT ON IT.
AND WE GOT IT WOULDN'T, IT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED UNLESS WE DID MORE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.
PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WAS THE KEY WHEN PEOPLE FELT THAT THEY WERE, THAT WAS WITH THE ECC COMMITTEE.
YOU DID IT, BUT YOU DIDN'T DO IT UNDER THE AUSPICES OF THIS OTHER GROUP.
I LED THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT EFFORT, WHICH PREVENTED THE GRIDLOCK THAT THE TOWN WAS STUCK IN WITH MONT.
I'M SAYING YOU, YOU WORKED UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF THE EC CHAPTER COMMITTEE OR THIS COMMITTEE THAT, THAT COUNCILMAN SHEHAN JUST READ READ THE LANGUAGE OF YES.
SO I DID NOT READ FROM THE E CCC.
NO, HE DID NOT READ FROM THE ECC.
WE, WE KNOW FRANCIS READ FROM RIGHT.
OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FROM FOUR YEARS AGO.
AND THOSE WERE JUST RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THE, THE WORST POSSIBLE CASE SCENARIO IS THAT TWO DIFFERENT ADVISORY BODIES MAKE TWO DIFFERENT SETS OF RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN YOU AS LEGISLATORS GET TO DECIDE HOW TO ACT ON THAT, THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS.
BUT THE ECC SPEAKS FOR EDGEMONT.
THIS COMMITTEE DOES NOT SPEAK FOR EDGEMONT, EXCEPT THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING THAT IT SPEAK FOR EDGEMONT AS WELL.
NO, THIS COMMITTEE I WOULD HAVE TO CARVE OUT.
IF I CAN ADD, INTRODUCE YOURSELF PLEASE.
I AM DYLAN PINE AND I AM PRESIDENT OF THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL.
UM, I WOULD ARGUE THAT, THAT THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE HAD THE SUCCESS.
IT DID, UM, AND WAS ABLE TO BREAK THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE HISTORICAL GRIDLOCK THAT IT EXISTED, UM, IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSALS WERE MADE AND THE, THE CONSENSUS WAS DERIVED THROUGH THE EXISTING, UH, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION FRAMEWORK.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE NEIGHBORHOOD AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
YOU KNOW, THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL IS THE UMBRELLA ORGANIZATION FOR THE EIGHT NEIGHBORHOODS.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE COUNCIL OF GREENBURG CIVIC ASSOCIATIONS REPRESENTS OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THROUGHOUT UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG.
YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY AS, AS MUCH AS PEOPLE MAY WISH TO ENGAGE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE REALITY IS, UM, SOME RESIDENTS JUST DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH OR THE CAPACITY, OR, UM, THE ABILITY TO FOLLOW EVERY SINGLE ISSUE FACING THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IN THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND THEY ELECT OR OTHERWISE DESIGNATE COMMUNITY LEADERS TO, TO ADVOCATE AND
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REPRESENT, UH, THEMSELVES AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD ON THEIR BEHALF.UM, LAST YEAR, THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL HAD 222 MEMBERS.
UH, WE HAD MANY MORE COME THROUGH OUR MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
UM, WE HAVE VERY WELL ATTENDED, UH, COMMUNITY EVENTS.
UH, WE HAVE A MAILING LIST OF OVER 4,000 RESIDENTS IN EDGEMONT MM-HMM
AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT WAS WHEN THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND THROUGH ITS, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, THAT IT REALLY DUG INTO SOME OF THESE ISSUES THAT IT WAS ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH STAKEHOLDERS LIKE YOURSELF, UH, AND ULTIMATELY BREAK THROUGH SOME OF SOME OF THIS GRIDLOCK.
AND SO IT'S THAT, IT'S PRECISELY, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS BEEN AN INFORMATIVE CONVERSATION ALREADY.
I'VE LEARNED A LOT MORE THAN WHAT I INITIALLY UNDERSTOOD IN THE BLAST EMAIL THAT WENT OUT LAST WEEK.
UM, BUT MY CONCERN IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A STRUCTURE OF CIVIC REPRESENTATION AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
CERTAINLY IN EDGEMONT, WE HAVE A, A WELL-FUNCTIONING, UH, PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE THAT MM-HMM
LUCAS LED INITIALLY AND IS NOW LED BY PAUL MM-HMM
AND, UH, PAUL WOOTEN AND IS, IS AS ENGAGED NOW AS IT WAS THEN MM-HMM
AND SO, I, I DON'T, I DON'T TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK ANYONE HAS THE ABILITY TO ANSWER RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, WHAT THE SCOPE AND BOUNDARIES OF THIS COMMITTEE WOULD BE, UH, COMPARED TO THE SCOPE AND BOUNDARIES OF THE ECC TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
AND LETS TALK ABOUT CONSIDERING THAT, I THINK, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WORK SESSION IS AN APPROPRIATE TIME TO, TO, TO HASH ALL THAT OUT MM-HMM
UM, BUT AS THE, THE HEAD OF THE LEADING ADVOCACY AND ENGAGEMENT ORGANIZATION IN EDGEMONT, I WAS REALLY TROUBLED TO RECEIVE THE EMAIL THAT I DID LAST WEEK WITH AS, AS LITTLE INFORMATION AS IT SEEMS THE REST OF THE BOARD MM-HMM
AND UNTIL, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, I THINK THERE ARE MORE ANSWER.
I THINK THERE'S MORE QUESTIONS THAN ANSWERS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M PROUD OF THE WORK THAT THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL HAS BEEN ABLE TO DO, UH, OVER THE PAST, AT LEAST THE PAST THREE YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN PRESIDENT.
AND I, I, IT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME IF WE WEREN'T ABLE TO PRESERVE THE, THE PROGRESS AND PARTNERSHIP MM-HMM
THAT, THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE.
AND, UM, THIS, THIS COMMITTEE WITHOUT A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT'LL BE DOING MM-HMM
AND HOW IT'LL INSERT ITSELF INTO THE AFFAIRS OF THE EDGE, EDGEMONT, YOU KNOW, THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL THROUGH ITS INVOLVEMENT IN EDGEMONT MM-HMM
UM, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF RISKS.
BUT THERE, THERE'S, I DON'T SEE ANY, ANY RISKS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE ISSUES THAT I SEE, WE'RE GONNA DO THE, THE LIGHT THIS YEAR, OLD ARMY, UH, ON FORT HILL AND LEY ROAD, WHICH EVERYBODY AGREES.
WE ALL SAID THAT WE WANT TO, UM, USE PUBLIC, UH, WORKS RESOURCES AND HAVE, UM, UH, BASICALLY, UH, IMPROVE ENHANCED CROSSWALK ON, UH, LINWOOD AND LEY ROAD.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ALL, BUT, AND THOSE ARE ALL ISSUES THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON THE, ON THE AGENDA.
BUT, BUT THERE'S NO, NOBODY DISAGREES WITH THAT.
NO, BUT I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING, I SPOKE TO, UM, THE POLICE CHIEF, UM, AND SERGEANT FONTAN ELLIS ABOUT PIPELINE ROAD BECAUSE NEAR THE BRIDGE, UH, THERE'S NO, LIKE, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR MOTORISTS TO KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE CROSSING.
SO WE ARE GONNA BE, AND THOSE ARE ALL ISSUES THAT ARE BEING TACKLED BY THE EDMONT COUNCIL.
BUT THE PROBLEM, NO, THE PROBLEM IS THAT FROM THE STANDPOINT OF THE TOWN, OUR JOB AS A TOWN BOARD MEMBER IS NOT, UM, TO WORRY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE, THE CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT IS BASICALLY TO GET THINGS DONE.
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BUT THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A REALLY GOOD COOPERATIVE, UM, RELATIONSHIP, UM, IN TERMS OF, UM, UH, FORT HILL ROAD FROM UNDERHILL TO, UH, LONGVIEW, WE WANNA GET A SIDEWALK THERE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S SOMETHING TO MAKE THAT PAUL CALL PAUL PAUL, THESE ARE ALL THINGS AT THE ECC.
CAN ONE OF US SPEAK ABOUT THIS AS WELL, PLEASE? YEAH.
SO IT SEEMS THAT THE ECC HAS THEIR TRAFFIC AND SAFETY WELL IN HAND AND HAS REC EXCELLENT RECOMMENDATIONS AND HAVE, HAS MADE THEM.
THERE ARE OTHER PARTS OF UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG WHO COULD, THAT COULD BENEFIT FROM WHAT, RIGHT.
ANOTHER, BUT A SEPARATE AND NOT OVERLAPPING COMMITTEE.
THEY WOULD NOT HAVE ANY PARTICIPATION THEN IN EDGEMONT.
LEMME SAY, LEMME JUST SAY WHAT CONFUSES ME.
THE, THE, THE EVERY, THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL IS AN INDEPENDENT CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
WHAT LUCAS IS DOING HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, IT'S AN UNOFFICIAL INDEPENDENT COMMITTEE.
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SO IF THE ECC HAS EMAILS WE'D LIKE TO SEND OUT OVER THE GB LIST, I I, I, I ALWAYS WOULD PUT ANYTHING YOU TELL ME TO DO.I I I, I POST, I WOULD POST IT.
BECAUSE I BASICALLY WOULD WANT, I WANNA GET PEOPLE INVOLVED.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE GROUPS AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, AT THE STATE LEVEL THAT DUPLICATE.
YOU HAVE THE LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS.
YOU HAVE COMMON CAUSE YOU HAVE NEW YORK PERG, YOU HAVE A LOT OF GROUPS ADVOCATE.
YOU HAVE ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, MANY CITIZEN ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, AND THE STATE ASSEMBLY AND THE STATE STANDARD.
THEY DON'T SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALSO A LOT DUPLICATION OF EFFORTS AND CHAOS BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR, BUT IT'S NOT OUR, IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO TELL CITIZENS.
WHY ARE YOU SHARING IT? I'M NOT SHARING IT.
I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M ADVOCAT SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
I'M, I, I'M ADVOCATING FOR IT BECAUSE I WANT TO GET MORE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN, IN OUR, OUR COMMUNITY.
BUT, BUT, BUT I'M GONNA SAY THIS AGAIN AND, AND YOU JUST, I DON'T THINK ANYONE HURT ME.
YOU KEEP FOCUSING ON EDGEMONT.
WHAT ABOUT OUTSIDE OF EDGEMONT? I CAN ANSWER THAT FOR, I WANNA, I, I REALLY WANTED TO HEAR FROM THE SUPERVISORS.
WELL, WE'VE ALREADY, SINCE WE SENT OUT THE, UH, THE LINK, WE GOT A REALLY GOOD, UM, CONSTRUCTIVE SUGGESTION THAT WE HADN'T HEARD FROM THE HEAD OF THE HARSDALE CANINE CEMETERY, ANNIE IRVINGTON, ANY STERING CAME UP WITH FINE.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT JURISDICTION AND HARSDALE GREAT.
AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING TO FAIRVIEW.
YOU GOT NOTIFICATION FROM FAIRVIEW? YES.
WE HAVE A CO-CHAIR FROM FAIRVIEW NOW.
THIS IS NOT, SO MAYBE THAT'S ALL PROBABLY WOULD'VE BEEN HELPFUL.
IF MAYBE ALL OF THIS WOULD'VE BEEN WRITTEN OUT BEFORE WE'VE IN, IN, IN FRONT OF, BEFORE WE MEET TODAY.
SO WE HAD AN UNDERSTANDING JUST AS THE HEAD OF ECC WE'RE AND ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HERE.
THE FIRST TIME WE HEARING AND UNDERSTANDING THIS, I, I DO WANT TO CHALLENGE ONE, ONE THOUGHT.
'CAUSE YOU DID SAY SOMETHING, IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT.
YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ACCURATE, BUT TO, TO YOU IS ACCURATE TO THE FACTS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO, TO YOU.
BUT NO, THE FIRST PERSON I INVITED TO THIS COMMITTEE A MONTH AGO WAS THE CHAIR OF THE ECCS PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
WE WERE STARTING COORDINATION FROM THE VERY BEGINNING.
DYLAN KNEW ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE BEFORE WAS BLASTED OUT.
I GUESS THE, AND THE ECC HAS NOT ASKED FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND HAS NOT ASKED FOR ANY, ANY ASSISTANCE WITH THE WORK THAT WE DO.
YOU KNOW, SO I I, I DO THINK, YOU KNOW, TO, TO THE POINT EARLIER, YOU KNOW, IF THERE ARE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS WHO NEED ASSISTANCE IN, YOU KNOW, ABSOLUTELY FLEXING THEIR CIVIC ENGAGEMENT MUSCLES AND, UH, WOULD LIKE SUPPORT IN CREATING HIGH FUNCTIONING GROUPS LIKE THE ONE WE HAVE IN EDGEMONT TOGETHER THAT, WELL, THE EC HAS EXISTED, BUT CERTAINLY THE COMMITTEE.
SO, YEAH, IF LUCAS, IF YOU ARE ABLE TO HELP WITH THAT IN OTHER AREAS, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
LUCAS, HAVE YOU REACHED, REACHED OUT TO OTHER COMMUNITY COUNCILS? I'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.
JOY, WE WE'RE GONNA REPLICATE THE SUCCESS MM-HMM
THAT DYLAN AND I HAD IN EDGEMONT FOR OTHER AREAS OF GREENBERG.
AND, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE MAKING TWO RECOMMENDATIONS WHERE SOMEONES LIKE, DYLAN'S COMMITTEE THAT I'M ON SAYS, PUT A STOP ASIDE IN MY COMMITTEE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO DIFFERENT LEVELS.
I MEAN, IT'S PRETTY INSULTING.
YOU KNOW, I, I'VE BEEN ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE ECC FOR THE PAST THREE YEARS.
YOU KNOW, I, I WORK REALLY HARD TO, TO LEAD THE ORGANIZATION.
UH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN EXISTING FRAMEWORK AND STRUCTURE OF, UH, IDENTIFYING COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP.
AND YEAH, I THINK PAUL'S PERSPECTIVE ON, ON MOST THINGS IS THAT MORE IS BETTER.
BUT, BUT I MEAN, HOW DOES THAT BUT MORE IS NOT ALWAYS BETTER OF A CITIZEN INVOLVEMENT.
BECAUSE, AND IF I MAY, IF I MAY, UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY GOOD TO HAVE A PROPOSAL.
I THINK IT SHOULD EXCLUDE EDGEMONT.
AND I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO ENGAGE OTHER COMMUNITY COUNCILS AND FIND OUT WHETHER THEY'RE, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN DEVELOPING THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH YOU SO THAT YOU CAN WORK IN A SIMILAR FASHION.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE.
NOT HAVE, NOT TO BE BLINDSIDED BY A NEW IDEA.
BUT TO BE BLINDSIDED IS A BIT PROBLEMATIC.
AND SORRY, LUCAS, IT HAS NOTHING.
IT, IT'S NOT HA YOU HAVING BLINDSIDED YOUR, I THINK YOUR INTENTIONS ARE GOOD.
I THINK IT SHOULD EXCLUDE EDGEMONT BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY.
THAT DUPLICATION, AS MUCH AS YOU SAY YOU DON'T KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE A CRYSTAL BALL EITHER OF YOU TO KNOW WHETHER THERE WOULD BE ANY CONFLICT.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT AS A, FIRST OF ALL, THE TOWN BOARD, IN MY OPINION, DOESN'T HAVE THE, SHOULDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY OF TELLING CITIZENS WHETHER THEY COULD EX SHOULD EXCLUDE AN AREA OR NOT EXCLUDE AN AREA.
AND YOU COULD HAVE, AND WITH ANY CIVIC GROUP THERE'S IN, IN ANY TOWN, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE AGREEING AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE DIFFERING AND YOU'RE GONNA HAVE PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT STYLES, DIFFERENT APPROACHES, DIFFERENT PRIORITIES.
SO MY FAILING IS THAT, UH, THE COMMITTEE IS INDEPENDENT
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OF THE TOWN.UM, YOU HAVE THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL THAT HAS NO, LEMME SAY SAYING THAT, NO, PUT IT OUT ON THE TOWN.
AND YOU ASK PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED TO RESPOND, LET JUST SAY ON THE TOWN LIST, LEMME SAY WEBSITE.
BECAUSE BASICALLY I WANNA WORK VERY CLOSELY WITH THE EDGE ONE COMMUNITY COUNCIL, AS WE'VE DONE, WE'VE HAD AN EXCELLENT RELATIONSHIP IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, AND WE'VE, WE'VE IMPLEMENTED A LOT OF THINGS AND WE'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT MORE THINGS.
AND SO, SO DYLAN ASKS THAT SOMETHING BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE.
IT SHOULD BE POSTED ON THE WEBSITE, BECAUSE YOU'RE A VERY CREDIBLE, UH, LEADER.
AND BASICALLY YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES FANTASTIC WORK FOR RESIDENTS OF EDGEMONT.
AND YOU'VE MADE A VERY, VERY POSITIVE DIFFERENCE.
LUCAS, ONCE AGAIN, INVOLVED, UM, WE CAN'T TELL HIM, UH, WHAT TO FOCUS ON AND WHAT TO LIMIT BECAUSE THIS IS A DEMOCRACY.
AND WE SHOULD BE EMBRACING AND THANKING ANYONE WHO COULD COME UP WITH IDEAS.
YOU KNOW, IF, HOWEVER, IF THIS COMMITTEE SAVES ONE LIFE, HOWEVER IT'S WORTH IT, BECAUSE BASICALLY, 'CAUSE MY FAILING IS WE MAY COME UP WITH AN IDEA THAT NOBODY EVER THOUGHT OF, HOWEVER IT COULD BE.
AND, AND, AND TO ME, IT'S WORTH EVERY SINGLE, IF IT'S INDEPENDENT, IT'S INDEPENDENT, THEN IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE PROMOTING ON THE TOWN WEBSITE.
WELL, I, I'VE ALWAYS PROMOTED, UM, UH, PROMOTED CIVIC CIVIC INVOLVEMENT.
LAST YEAR, UH, WE PROMOTED WHEN THE SCARSDALE ENQUIRER WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AND ENTERPRISE, UH, LUCAS ORGANIZED, UM, AN EFFORT TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY IN TRYING TO PROMOTE MORE LOCAL MEDIA.
UH, YOU USED YOUR SOCIAL MEDIA SKILLS.
AND THEN, SO IF I, IF I DRAFT AN EMAIL THAT SAYS, IF YOU LIVE IN EDGEMONT AND YOU WANNA BE INVOLVED IN TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
JOIN THE EC TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
THAT IS VERY NO, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER PART? BECAUSE THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE C, THERE MAY BE THE TOWN DON'T, THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE WHO WOULD WANNA GET INVOLVED IN YOUR COMMITTEE, AND THERE MAY BE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WANNA GET, IF THEY HAD THE SAME FUND, IF THEY HAVE THE SAME FOCUS, WHY, WHY WOULD YOU CHOOSE ONE COMMITTEE OVER THE OTHER? THERE'S NO, BECAUSE THEN WE'LL WORK TOGETHER.
I I THINK WE'VE, YOU GOT A LOT OF BUSINESS TONIGHT.
YOU WANT TO GET ON WITH OTHER ISSUES MM-HMM
I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THERE'S SO MUCH INTEREST IN TRAFFIC SAFETY.
THERE'S PEOPLE THAT ARE, WE'RE GONNA ALIGN.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GONNA FIND ANY CONFLICTS WITH ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WE MAKE, AND WE'RE GONNA WORK TOGETHER.
IT'S, IT'S, THIS IS NOT OPPOSITIONAL.
THIS IS MORE, AND I THINK YOU HEARD FROM COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS, HABER JACKSON SHEEN ABOUT WHAT WE FEEL IS THE BEST PATH FORWARD, WHICH IS TO FORM A MUCH NEEDED ANOTHER TRAFFIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMITTEE THAT TAKES INTO ACCOUNT OTHER PARTS OF THE TOWN THAT ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED BY RIGHT NOW, RATHER THAN FOC THAN PUTTING ANY FOCUS ON AN AREA THAT'S ALREADY BEING ADDRESSED THAT REALLY SERVES THE PURPOSE, THE BEST OF THE TOWN.
AND IF THAT'S YOUR GOAL TO, TO BEST SERVE THE TOWN AND YOURS AS WELL, SUPERVISOR, THEN THAT'S HOW IT SHOULD GO FORWARD.
MY, MY SPECIFIC GOAL, SO I'M GONNA FOCUS PERSONALLY, I'M THE CO-CHAIR THAT'S GONNA FOCUS ON EDGEMONT.
THERE'S ANOTHER CO-CHAIR THAT'S GONNA FOCUS ON HARTSDALE, ANOTHER CO-CHAIRS.
YOU'RE GONNA FOCUS ON EDGEMONT.
MY, SO WE'RE GONNA ORGANIZE INTO SEVERAL TEAMS THE SAME WAY.
WHEN I WAS ON THE EDGEMONT PUBLIC SAFETY AND CHAIRING THAT, WE HAD TEAMS FOCUSED ON ARDSLEY ROAD, OLD ARMY ROAD AND DIFFERENT AREAS.
THAT'S, AND WE'RE GONNA TAKE DUPLICATING THEIR EFFORTS THOUGH.
WHAT'S THE POINT? I, LOOK, I CAN TALK.
AS A COMMUNITY LEADER, IT'S ABSOLUTELY INSULTING THAT IT'S NOT PERSONAL.
YOU WOULD GIVE OXYGEN TO A GROUP, SOMEONE WHO SEEMINGLY ONLY PURPOSE IS TO UNDERCUT THE WORK.
IT IS NOT, SEEMINGLY NOT BECAUSE, BECAUSE BASICALLY, EDGEMONT RIGHT NOW IS THE ONLY SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE TOWN THAT DOESN'T HAVE BUSING.
SO, SO THE THING IS, THERE'S PEOPLE WHEN I GO SCHOOL BUS AND THINK THEY KNOW THAT.
SO THE THING IS, WE HAVE TO SPEND, IT'S GONNA BE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OVER A PERIOD OF TIME TO MAKE EDGEMONT PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY.
WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN MAKING, UH, THE REST OF THE TOWN MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY THROUGH GRANTS.
AND, AND HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO THE EDGEMONT SCHOOL BOARD AS TO WHY EDGEMONT DOESN'T HAVE BUSING? NO.
I MEAN, HAVE YOU DONE ANY STUDY ON THE ISSUE? NO.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THIS COMMITTEE WAS BEING, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT CRITICAL OF IT.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THERE'S PARENTS AND, AND STUDENTS.
AND OVER THE YEARS THEY'VE HAD SAID AND ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS.
SO I'M NOT CRITICAL OF THEM, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT I WANNA MAKE EDGEMONT AS PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY AS POSSIBLE, JUST LIKE YOU DO.
AND LUCAS SAYS, NONE OF US DISAGREE ON THIS.
AND, AND WE HAVE EXISTING CIVIC FRAMEWORKS TO DO THAT.
BUT, BUT, BUT THE, BUT THE THING IS, WE, WHAT WE ALSO NEED IS WE NEED THE TOWN, THE STATE, AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO, UM,
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TO PARTNER.UH, SO WE COULD GET THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF GRANTS.
SO, UH, GARRETT GOT A GRANT FOR A SIDEWALK ON OLD ARMY ROAD.
UM, SO WITH, WITH ARMY, WITH, WITH, WITH YOUR HELP.
UH, SO THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER AREAS, UH, WHERE WE COULD BASICALLY, THERE'S OTHER STREETS THAT WE CAN MAKE MORE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
UH, MOUNT JOY ROAD, PEOPLE WERE ASKING FOR A SIDEWALK ON MOUNT TROY.
WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY RIGHT NOW TO DO EVERYTHING ALL AT ONCE.
SO IF WE HA IF ALL, IF WE COULD GET CITIZENS RUNNING, HOW IS THAT, HOW IS THAT SOMETHING THAT THE ECC TRAFFIC SAFETY COMMITTEE WOULD NOT WORK OUT? C BECAUSE THE EC COULD BE ADVOCATING, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO FUND, UH, THESE INITIATIVES.
WHAT? THIS IS A, THIS IS AN AD HOC COMMITTEE.
SO HOW DO THEY HAVE THE POWER? I DON'T GET THAT.
BECAUSE BASICALLY DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, IF WE HAVE CITIZENS INVOLVED SPEAKING OUT, SAYING THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED, AND WE, AND WE'RE ENGAGING THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO SPEED UP THE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW SIDEWALKS FASTER.
NO, BECAUSE WE HAVE A CITIZEN ALREADY.
WHEN DYLAN TOLD YOU AS A MAILING LIST OF 4,000 PEOPLE, EVERYBODY KNOWS HOW WE HAVE TO DO IT.
BUT THE THING IS, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE DOING IT TO GET, MAYBE WE COULD DO IT FASTER.
NO, I'M NOT CRITICIZING WE'RE DOING THE WORK.
I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT CRITICIZING.
BUT MAYBE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE NOW A NEW CONGRESSMAN.
WE ALSO HAVE, WE ALSO HAVE IS A VERY COMMITTED TO, UM, TO MAKING OUR AREAS SAFER.
SO MAYBE WE COULD IDENTIFY MORE FEDERAL FUNDING, UH, THAT COULD ENABLE US TO DO INSTEAD OF ONE SIDEWALK A YEAR, MAYBE WE COULD DO TWO OR THREE.
UM, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE'LL BE ABLE TO FIND THE FUNDING.
THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THAT CLEAR RIGHT NOW.
NO, BUT I'M SAYING I COULD SPEAK TO CONGRESSMAN LATIMER AND SEE IF I CAN GET THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME, AND I WILL NOT BE INVOLVED IN THAT.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK WE'VE DISCUSS, I THINK WE, I THINK WE'VE GONE THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION.
I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD PROBABLY BE VERY CLEAR ON HOW WE FEEL, HOW YOU GO FORWARD.
UH, I DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND.
WE WOULD LIKE, I HAVE ONE CONFLICT WITH THERE'S NO CONFLICT.
WELL, HOW WOULD YOU KNOW? HAVE YOU HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM? THERE'S NO CONFLICT BECAUSE WE'RE THE, THE ONLY ISSUE THAT WE WANT IS MORE.
SO I, I THINK THIS COULD, I THINK THIS CONVERSATION NEEDS TO END RIGHT NOW.
I'LL JUST, I'LL JUST MENTION THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
AND I CAN COMMIT THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA SEE CONFLICT.
IT'S GONNA MAKE THE TOWN LOOK GOOD.
IT'S GONNA MAKE EDGEMONT LOOK GOOD.
I THINK THE CONVERSATION NEEDS DONE RIGHT NOW.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH MR. CHAFFEY.
I'D LIKE TO SEE MY TOWN BOARD BE MORE COLLABORATIVE AS A CITIZEN AND AS A VOTER.
WE HAVE OTHER BUSINESS TO GET TO.
COLLABORATION DOES NOT INCLUDE
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING.
UH, WE HAVE A LOCAL LAW NEEDED RELATING TO, UH, RED LIGHT CAMERAS.
UH, THE CHIEF OF POLICE HAS, UH, MADE THE SUGGESTION THAT THAT'S THE NEXT STEP.
SO JOE IS THERE, UH, GENTLEMEN, POLICE CHIEF IS HERE.
UM, I WILL SAY AS HE'S APPROACHING THE TABLE, THAT MY OFFICE HAS STARTED DRAFTING THAT LOCAL LAW TO HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE OFFICIALLY IMPLEMENTING IT.
YEAH, I'M JUST, CAN EVERYONE, THERE WE GO.
UM, I BROUGHT, UH, DETECTIVE MARINO WITH ME TONIGHT BECAUSE, UH, HE HELPED WITH SOME OF THE, UH, RESEARCH UP TO THIS POINT.
SO, UM, I JUST HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF PREPARED INFORMATION.
I'LL READ AND THEN, UH, HOPEFULLY THERE WON'T BE TOO MANY QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, WE CREATED A ROUGH DRAFT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR FIRMS WITH DEMONSTRATED ONGOING EXPERIENCE IN THE PLANNING OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF TRAFFIC SIGNAL, PHOTO ENFORCEMENT SYSTEMS. WITH THE APPROVAL TO INSTALL RED LIGHT CAMERAS AT ARLEY ROAD AND OLD ARMY ROAD, AS WELL AS EAST DALE AVENUE AND ROCKLEDGE ROAD, THE TOWN WILL NEED TO ENACT THE LOCAL ORDER PERMIT NOTICES OF LIABILITY, ESSENTIALLY WHAT PARKING TICKETS ARE TO BE ISSUED TO THE OWNERS OF VEHICLES CAPTURED BY THE RED LIGHT CAMERA PROGRAM.
THE GOAL OF THE RFP IS FOR THE TOWN TO LEASE THE EQUIPMENT AND ASSOCIATED SERVICES FROM THE SELECTED PROPOSER.
THERE ARE SEVERAL COMPANIES THAT SPECIALIZE IN FACILITATING RLC OPERATIONS.
IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT OUR RESEARCH INDICATES THAT THE CAMERAS COULD COST APPROXIMATELY $50,000 EACH ANNUALLY INTERSECTIONS, LIKE THE ONES WE WILL BE OUTFITTING WILL NEED TWO CAMERAS FACING TWO OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS.
AT MINIMUM BRING OUR APPROXIMATE TOTAL TO $100,000 PER LOCATION.
THESE ESTIMATES COULD CHANGE AFTER WE GET RESPONSES TO THE RFP, WE HAVE MULTIPLE NEIGHBORING JURISDICTIONS
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THAT OPERATE THEIR RLC SYSTEMS THROUGH A COMPANY.THE COMPANY CONTRACTOR WILL PROVIDE THE CAMERAS SOFTWARE, INITIAL REVIEW OF IMAGES, AND TAKE CARE OF THE PROPER INSTALLATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE SYSTEM.
UM, THERE IS ONE COMPANY, AND I'M, MY INKLING IS NOT NECESSARILY TO NAME IT'S PUBLIC MEETING, NOT TO NAME ANY COMPANY BY NAME.
UH, BUT THERE'S ONE COMPANY THAT OPERATES THESE CAMERAS FOR MULTIPLE JURISDICTIONS IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO US.
UH, THERE ARE SOME OTHERS IN, YOU KNOW, UH, NEIGHBORING AREAS, BUT, UM, THE RFP MAY BE REAL, YOU KNOW, COMPANY'S INTERESTED IN DOING THIS FOR US THAT, UM, WE ARE NOT ALREADY, YOU KNOW, FAMILIAR WITH FROM OUR RESEARCH.
AND COULD I JUST POINT OUT THAT WHILE THE AGENDA SAYS LOCAL LAW NEEDED A CONTRACT WOULD BE NEEDED AS WELL TO, TO MOVE FORWARD IN THAT ASPECT, WHICH WE WILL OF COURSE WORK ON, CORRECT? YES.
WHAT'S THE TIMETABLE THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE, LIKE A GOAL IN TERMS OF WHEN YOU THINK WE COULD ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT THE, THE LIGHTS TWO OR I CAN KEEP GOING.
UM, WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT, UM, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A ROUGH DRAFT RFP, UM, I ASKED, UH, COMMISSIONER DUQUE TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT FOR ME.
UH, IF WE CAN PUT THAT OUT, HAVE IT, UH, RETURNABLE SOMETIME, MAYBE THE END OF FEBRUARY.
UH, THEN, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT SHOULD GIVE US TIME TO, UH, WORK ON IT AND GET THINGS MOVING WHILE WE'RE STILL IN GOOD WEATHER.
BUT, UM, MY FIRST TIME REALLY, UH, INVOLVED IN SOMETHING, IN A PROCESS LIKE THIS, I DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND GIVE ANY KIND OF FIRM TIMELINES 'CAUSE UM, I'M UNCERTAIN.
WE, WE WILL NEED TIME TO ADDRESS THE CONTRACT AND ENSURE EVERYTHING'S OKAY AFTER THE RFP IS ANSWERED.
I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD ONLY BE ONE SESSION, BUT OF COURSE IT COULD LAST MULTIPLE SESSIONS IF NEEDED AS WELL.
SO JUST SO I WON'T BE A PAIN IN THE NECK AND EVERY DAY CALL YOU AND SAY WHAT'S HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, IS A PROBABILITY LIKE THE SUMMER OR THE SPRING OR THE FALL, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST TRYING TO, YOU DON'T CALL YOU EMAIL AND I CAN'T SAY, SAY THAT AGAIN.
I SAID YOU DON'T CALL YOU EMAIL, BUT I CAN'T SAY.
NEXT, UH, ON THE, UM, WHEN WE APPROVE THE BUDGET, UM, WE APPROVED, UM, UM, AN OPERATIONS DIRECTOR, UM, YOU KNOW, POSITION THAT WOULD REPORT TO THE TOWN BOARD.
AND, UM, JUST SO WE COULD GET THAT MOVING, I'M WONDERING IF, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD WOULD HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THE NEXT STEPS IN TERMS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, COMING UP WITH A TITLE AND COMING UP WITH THE DUTIES THAT, UH, DUTIES FOR THE POSITION THAT YOU FEEL, UM, YOU KNOW, WOULD MAKE, WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE POSITION.
IF I CAN SUGGEST, SINCE THIS IS THE POSITION THAT YOU HAVE RECOMMENDED, THAT YOU COME UP AND DRAFT UP WHAT THESE DUTIES WILL LOOK LIKE, SO WE CAN THEN LOOK, TALK AMONGST OURSELVES AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S YEAH.
LET, LET'S NOT DO SOMETHING ON THE FLY, LIKE YOU SAID YOU TEND TO DO.
PLEASE DO NOT SEND IT OUT UNTIL WE'VE HAD AN ENABLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
I SENT THE TOWN BOARD A MEMO, UH, HIGHLIGHTING, UM, THE DUTIES IS A JOB DESCRIPTION ON DECEMBER.
WHAT I CONSIDER TO BE A JOB DESCRIPTION ON DECEMBER 9TH AT 6:13 PM I COULD READ IT TO YOU IF, IF YOU WANT.
YOU JUST WANT TO SEND IT AGAIN? YEAH.
SO THAT'S AT THE TOP OF MY EMAIL.
IT'S, YEAH, IT'S DECEMBER, UH, NINTH AT 6:13 PM OKAY.
WE WILL HAVE TO READ THAT EVERYBODY TO READ THAT.
I THINK THEN WE CAN, AND JOE, YOU, I THINK YOU HAVE IT ALSO.
COULD YOU MAYBE SEND THAT TO THE BOARD SINCE SURE.
UH, THIS IPHONE ISN'T ALWAYS THAT GREAT.
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU HAD, UM, COPIES OF US TO, TO LOOK AT AND, AND HAD PREPARED US FOR THIS DISCUSS.
WELL, EVERYBODY ON BOARD HAD, UH, THIS ON DECEMBER.
NO, I KNOW IF YOU COULD HAVE JUST HAD COPY HARD COPIES AND WE COULD HAVE HAD A DISCUSSION SO WE COULD HAVE LOOKED OVER IT.
SO I THINK THE NEXT, I THINK THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA TO THE RATIFY THE FOILER YES.
SO AN APPEAL CAME IN FILE NUMBER 1 3 7 3 OF CALENDAR YEAR 2024.
AND THE APPELLANT HAS STATED THAT THE DOCUMENTATION REQUESTED WAS NOT FORWARDED TO HIM.
HOWEVER, UH, BASED UPON A DRAFT THAT I PUT TOGETHER AND BASED ON THE DIRECTION OF THE TOWN BOARD, A DETERMINATION WAS MADE THAT, UH, IT'S TWOFOLD.
ONE IS THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBERG DOES NOT ACTUALLY MAINTAIN THE EXACT DOCUMENTATION REQUESTED.
HOWEVER, THE INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED IN THAT DOCUMENTATION WAS PUT TOGETHER IN AN
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EXCEL SPREADSHEET AND SHARED WITH THE APPLICANT APPELLANT, UH, BOTH, UH, CORRECTLY AND TIMELY WITHIN THE CORRESPONDING DATE THAT WE HAD PROPOSED.SO THE APPEAL WAS DENIED IN ITS ENTIRETY AND, UM, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE A, A COPY, I CAN HANDED OUT COPIES AROUND THE TABLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S ALSO CAN BE GIVEN OUT TO ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE A COPY AS WELL.
I WASN'T SURE IF ANYONE HAD ANY QUESTIONS OR, YEAH, I, I HAVE A, A QUESTION.
UM, SO BA YOU KNOW, BA I SPOKE TO LISA BEFORE, YOU KNOW, THE MEETING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A NUMBER OF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE, BUT YOU KNOW, THERE'S PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE A LOT OF FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, IN, IN RECENT, YOU KNOW, MONTHS.
AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW DAVID WILSON HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, VERY UPSET, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, THE, UH, SOME OF THE DENIALS.
AND ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD WAS, UM, TO, UM, INVITE, UM, THE STATE, UM, COMMITTEE ON OPEN GOVERNMENT TO A MEETING, UM, YOU KNOW, HERE TO, UM, AND, AND TO PROVIDE PEOPLE WHO, UM, HAVE BEEN DENIED FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUESTS, THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS, UM, UH, TO HAVE US, UM, BE AS A TOWN, UM, DISCUSS, YOU KNOW, THE REASONS, UH, UH, FOR, FOR SOME OF THE DECISIONS.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE STATE COULD RUN YES.
SO ALL, ALL DECISIONS MADE BY MUNICIPALITY IN REGARDS TO AN APPEAL ARE THEN SENT TO THE COMMITTEE ON OPEN GOVERNMENT.
THEY, THEY GET THOSE AFTERWARDS.
UM, ALSO A RESIDENT HAS THE RIGHT TO CALL UP THESE PEOPLE AND ASK WHATEVER QUESTIONS THEY'D LIKE AT ANY TIME.
IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT, THEY DO.
I DON'T, I'VE NEVER HEARD THEY DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT.
I'VE ALWAYS HEARD THE RESIDENT CAN CALL AND ASK QUESTIONS.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE, CAN WE PROVIDE A FULL NUMBER? YES.
OR MAYBE AN EMAIL ADDRESS AND THEN, THEN WE CAN, DOES A COMMITTEE ON OPEN GOVERNMENT, UH, SAY WE AGREE OR, OR DISAGREE OR THERE IS NO CORRESPONDENCE BACK? NO.
IT IT'S UP TO THE MUNICIPALITY AND IF SOMEONE DISAGREES, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO FILE AN ARTICLE 78 IF THEY PLEASE.
BUT I'M SORT OF, WHAT I, WHAT I REALLY WANT IS I WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL THAT THE TOWN IS AT THE MOST OPEN GOVERNMENT EVER, UM, YOU KNOW, ANYWHERE IN THE STATE.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, IN RECENT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTEN, YOU SAID LIKE 1500, UH, IN THE YEAR OF 2024, WE RECEIVED 1,504 REQUESTS.
THAT'S APPROXIMATELY FIVE PER DAY AND 125 PER MONTH.
AND WE PROBABLY GOT FIVE APPEALS THROUGHOUT THAT ENTIRE TIME.
AND WE TIMELY RESPONDED TO ALL OF THOSE IN 10 BUSINESS DAYS.
SO, SO YOU WANNA OPEN UP A DIALOGUE TO 1500 FOER REQUESTS? NO.
ANYBODY WHO BASICALLY, WELL, IT'S FIVE APPEALS, YOU KNOW, HE HAS GOTTEN DENIAL OR DOESN'T FEEL IT WAS FIVE.
NO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN.
I'M NOT ABOUT OPEN GOVERNMENT.
BECAUSE I GET, I GET, YOU KNOW, CALLS AND EMAILS OKAY.
FROM RESIDENTS WHO ARE, YOU KNOW, WHO TELL ME, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE UPSET.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU THEY'RE UPSET ABOUT WHAT? GETTING, GETTING DENIED, YOU KNOW, REQUEST.
SO FIVE PEOPLE CALLED, FIVE PEOPLE CALL YOU.
I, I OVER, I JUST WANNA TO BE CLEAR.
I KNOW WHEN I GET ONE COMPLAINT ABOUT ANYTHING, I ALWAYS, I TAKE, I I NOT EXAGGERATED.
I TAKE EVERY COMPLAINT VERY SERIOUSLY.
WELL, FOR ME, I TAKE EVERY COMPLAINT.
EVERYONE IS A, EVERYONE IS A CRISIS FOR ME.
WHEN I, AND IT'S ALL, THAT'S BEEN MY WHOLE LIFE LIKE THAT.
UM, SO THE THING, AND THAT'S THE WAY, YOU KNOW WHY, YOU KNOW, I FEEL EVERY CITIZEN WHO HAS A CONCERN, YOU KNOW, I TAKE IT SERIOUSLY.
BUT YOU, I'M JUST, I'M TRYING TO DO THAT.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET THE IMPRESSION TO THE CITIZENS.
NO, I'M NOT, WE DON'T TAKE THINGS SERIOUSLY.
NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT SAYING BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT, BUT THAT'S THE IMPRESSION THAT RIGHT.
NO, PAUL, YOU'RE THE ONE SAYING IT.
SO WE ARE THE, WE'RE THE ONE RECEIVING IT AND WE'RE GIVING YOU FEEDBACK.
THAT'S THE IMPRESSION THAT YOU'RE GIVING TO CITIZENS GIVING A 1,505 APPEALS OR FIVE DENIALS.
WE ARE OPEN APPEALS, WE APPEAL, BUT WE ARE OPEN GOVERNMENT.
YOU VOTED FOR THE DENIAL ON EACH OF THESE FILES.
AND YOU, AND YOU, THE, THE WAY YOU PRESENTED IT WAS THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF CALLS AND A LOT OF WORRY, AND WE HAVE TO BE MORE TRANSPARENT.
WELL, WHEN YOU CONSIDER THAT THERE ARE ONLY FIVE APPEALS, THEN IT'S NOT THAT.
THEN YOU SHOULD BE MORE SPECIFIC.
SAY I'VE HAD FIVE CALLS OR I'VE HAD THREE CALLS.
I DON'T KNOW IF ALL FIVE OF THEM CALLED YOU.
INSTEAD YOU MADE IT SOUND LIKE THERE ARE A LOT OF APPEALS AND THAT, THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHAPPY WITH THE WAY THAT WE FUNCTIONED AND YOU ARE
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QUESTIONING THE, THE ABILITY OF OUR STAFF WHO HAVE, WHO WORK REALLY HARD ON MAKING SURE THAT THEY'VE CROSSED ALL THEIR T'S AND DOTTED THEIR IS.NO, I'M NOT, I'M NOT CRITICAL OF ANYTHING.
LET'S LET, LET'S JUST BE VERY CLEAR HERE BY IMPLICATION.
WE HAVEN'T ACTUALLY VOTED ON THE RAMIFICATION YET, BUT LET'S BE VERY CLEAR WHAT THIS IS.
WE'RE PROVIDING THE INFORMATION, WE'RE JUST NOT PROVIDING IT IN THE FORM THAT THE PERSON WANTED, BUT THEY ARE GETTING THE DATA IN A SPREADSHEET FORM, UM, THAT WAS CONTAINED IN THE DOCUMENT THAT WE DON'T MAINTAIN, WE NO LONGER MAINTAIN.
CAN I MAKE TWO? AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE ARGUE ABOUT THAT? AND PLEASE, TWO, TWO MORE POINTS JUST ABOUT THE GENERAL, UH, APPEAL PROCESS.
ONE IS THAT A LOT OF, NOT A LOT OF TIMES, BUT A FEW TIMES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, A RESIDENT HAS ATTEMPTED TO APPEAL A FOIL WHERE WE'VE SAID THE DOCUMENT DOES NOT EXIST OR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG DOES NOT MAINTAIN THESE DOCUMENTS.
THERE'S NO WAY OF REALLY PROVING A NEGATIVE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ITEMS. SO WHEN WE SAY THAT, THAT'S AFTER A VERY THOROUGH SEARCH CONDUCTED BY THE CLERK'S OFFICE AND ALL THE CORRESPONDING DEPARTMENT HEADS AND DEPARTMENT, UH, EMPLOYEES WHO ARE GOING THROUGH THAT.
UM, ALSO ACTUALLY ONE APPEAL ABOUT A MONTH OR TWO AGO, WE NOTICED THAT THE DOCUMENTATION WAS NOT SENT TIMELY.
WE WERE ABOUT A DAY OR TWO LATE.
SO THEN INSTEAD OF SUBMITTING LIKE YOU'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, A DENIAL, WE SENT O OVER ALL THE INFORMATION.
WE HAD FOIL SAYS EITHER YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION OR SENDING OVER THE CORRESPONDING DOCUMENTS, WHICH WE DID IN THAT CASE.
BUT JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO LOOK INTO THESE VERY CLOSELY.
AND ALSO FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, UM, WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT, UM, IT WAS A GOOD IDEA TO GO TO THE OFFICE OF OPEN GOVERNMENT, WHAT I DID WAS ON OUR WEBSITE UNDER FOIL FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY, NOT ONLY DO WE HAVE OUR FOIL FORM, WHICH HAS THAT VERY INFORMATION ABOUT THE APPEAL AND WHAT IS ALLOWABLE BY LAW UNDER APPEAL, WE ALSO HAVE FOIL INFORMATION.
WHAT GIVES ALL THE INFORMATION AS FAR AS, UM, APPEALS AND WHAT THE PROCESS IS.
YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE INTERROGATING.
YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ASKING FOR DOCUMENTS THAT DO NOT HAVE TO BE CREATED.
AND SO ALSO IN THE LAST THING I'VE ALSO PUT ON THERE, THE NEW YORK STATE, UM, FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS FOR FOILS.
SO I AM FULLY TRANSPARENT WHEN IT COMES TO INFORMATIONS AND FOILS AND I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU PUT IT THAT WAY.
THAT YES, 1500 FOILS COMPARED TO 300 IN PREVIOUS YEARS.
AND LET ME JUST SAY I'M NOT, I'M, YOU KNOW, WE ALL HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE DIFFERENT APPROACHES AND DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, STYLES.
YOU KNOW, I GOT MY START IN POLITICS IN THE, WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL, I SUED THE COUNTY LEGISLATURE, UM, FOR HAVING CLOSED GOVERNMENT.
I SUED THE VILLAGE OF SCARSDALE FOR HAVING CLOSED GOVERNMENT.
ARCHIBALD COX, THE FORMER WATERGATE PROSECUTOR, UM, NA NAMED ME ONE OF THE SIX TOP CIVIC ACTIVISTS IN THE UNITED STATES.
I WAS FLOWN TO WASHINGTON BY COMMON CAUSE I GOT THE AWARD FOR OPEN GOVERNMENT.
I HAVE MY OWN, UM, YOU KNOW, MY OWN, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTOOD USE.
SO I'M NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, JUST BECAUSE I MAY DIFFER WITH YOU DOESN'T MEAN THAT I'M RIGHT OR YOU'RE WRONG OR WHATEVER.
I JUST HAVE A, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY TO FEEL WE'RE GOING THE EXTRA MILE TO BE THE MOST OPEN GOVERNMENT, YOU KNOW, AROUND.
I PERSONALLY FEEL, AND THIS IS NOT WHAT THE LAW SAYS, I BASICALLY FEEL THAT IF SOMEBODY HAS A BASIC, UM, REQUEST THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE TO FILE A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST, I FEEL THAT IF THEY GO TO A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND THEY ASK FOR SOMETHING AND YOU KNOW, THEY WANNA KNOW HOW MUCH SOMETHING COSTS OR, OR SOMETHING EASY AND THEY COULD FIND IT, I FEEL THE DEPARTMENT HEAD SHOULD JUST GIVE IT TO THEM RATHER THAN MAKE THEM GO THROUGH THE PROCESS.
BECAUSE I FEEL THAT IF PEOPLE FEEL THAT, UM, THE GOVERNMENT IS ACCESSIBLE AND TRANSPARENT AND THAT WE'RE ENCOURAGING PUBLIC, AND THAT DOES HAPPEN TOO, I WAS GONNA WAIT UNTIL AS POSSIBLE.
I WAS GOING TO WAIT UNTIL HE FINISHED SPEAKING BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS IS MY WHEELHOUSE.
AND THE FACT IS, AGAIN, YOU'RE ASKING, IT'S NOT THAT OUR DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT PROVIDING THE INFORMATION.
THAT'S THE FIRST THING I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT IT IS THE FORMAT THAT THEY ARE NOT APPRECIATING THE INFORMATION.
AND AGAIN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HAVING OPEN GOVERNMENT, BUT RIGHT ON MY PAGE, UNDER TOWN CLERK, IT IS THE OFFICE OF OPEN GOVERNMENT NEW YORK.GOV AND IT GIVES THE WHOLE 25 PAGE UPDATE IN FREEDOM OF INFORMATION
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LAW.SO ANYBODY THAT IS UNCLEAR ABOUT THE PROCESS APPEALS AND, AND REQUESTS AND WHAT IS UNDER FREEDOM OF INFORMATION LAW AND NOT, IT IS RIGHT THERE ON OUR WEBSITE.
ARE YOU SAYING SUPERVISOR, THAT PEOPLE ARE OFTEN GOING TO DEPARTMENTS AND ASKING FOR INFORMATION AND THEY'RE BEING REFUSED AND THEREFORE, THEREFORE THEY SUBMIT FOILS? I, I, I DON'T THINK SO.
I MEAN, I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING ANSWER QUESTION TO SHE SHOULD LET HIM ANSWER THE QUESTION.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE, MAYBE THAT'S WHAT IT'S MAKE REQUESTS AND THE DEPARTMENT HEAD WILL SAY, FOLLOW A FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST.
THAT THAT'S WHAT DOLORES, BECAUSE IT'S DEPENDING ON WHAT THE REQUEST WAIT, ARE YOU TALK, ARE YOU CITING SPECIFIC EXAMPLES THAT YOU KNOW ABOUT? NO, I'M JUST SAYING WOULD YOU PLEASE CITE THEORETICAL SPECIFIC EXAMPLES? THERE'S THEORETICAL, THERE'S, THIS IS NOT A FIGHT.
ALL I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT I'D LIKE, I WOULD LIKE BASICALLY TO MAKE IT AS EASY AS POSSIBLE FOR PEOPLE TO GET THE INFORMATION.
SO SOMEBODY HAS A CONCERN WITH ANY DEPARTMENT.
JUST GIVE THEM THE INFORMATION.
UNLESS IT'S GONNA TAKE US A LOT OF WORK.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT MAY NOT BE WHAT THE LAW, THE LAW BASICALLY SAYS PEOPLE HAVE TO FILE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO WAY ABOVE WHAT THE LAW SAYS.
I'M NOT SAYING I'M RIGHT, I'M NOT SAYING I'M WRONG.
AND YOU GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND EXPOSES THE, UM, THE TOWN AND THE REASON WHY IT SAYS IN THE LAW THAT THERE IS A FORMAT, AND IF THERE IS A FORMAT THAT IS IN PLACE THAT IS FULLY DESCRIBED ON THE WEBSITE, AND YOU GET AN EMAIL DIRECTLY TO YOU ASKING FOR INFORMATION THAT'S IMPROPER.
NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT AGAIN, BUT THAT, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT HE WA HE SAID IF HE, IF HE WAS WRITING THE LAW, IF HE HEADED HIS WAY RIGHT, IT WOULD'VE BEEN NO, I LIKE, THAT'S NOT THE LAW, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT'S CURRENT ON THE BOOKS.
SO I, AGAIN, THIS IS A GREAT DISCUSSION.
I CAN I SAY YES? CAN I SAY, CAN I SAY ONE MORE THING BEFOREHAND? WE STILL NEED A MOTION TO SECOND IN THE VOTE.
I, I JUST WANNA BRIEFLY SAY, I BELIEVE THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG HAS A VERY OPEN GOVERNMENT, NOT ONLY IN FOILS, BUT OTHER AREAS AS WELL.
WE GIVE FULL FIVE MINUTES FOR EVERY SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS, WHICH IS MORE THAN MEETING.
OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE THREE MINUTES, OR THEY HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT, OR THEY DO NOT BROADCAST IT OVER TO AIR.
UM, RECENTLY WE EVEN EXTENDED TO A FULL 10 MINUTES PER ROUND FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
I DON'T KNOW OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DOING THAT, BUT WE TRY TO BE FAIR TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY TO THE RESIDENTS.
WELL, I WANNA, I'M GONNA ABSTAIN BECAUSE, UH, I'M GONNA JUST ABSTAIN ON THIS.
SO, DEPUTY SUPERVISOR, UH, UH,
WE REQUEST 1 3 7 3 2 0 2 4 APPEAL DECISION.
ONE ABSTENTION, FOUR TO ONE COUNCIL MEMBER.
I FAILED TO SAY THIS AT THE BE START OF THE MEETING.
WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM PRESENT AT TOWN HALL, WHICH WAS PUBLICLY NOTICED.
UM, SO WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE AND TOWN LAWS.
AND BEFORE I SEE THAT THERE'S NO AGENDA REVIEW.
OH, THERE'S NO, OH, THERE'S NO AGENDA REVIEW LISTED.
THE AGENDAS ARE HERE, BUT YES, AGENDA REVIEW SHOULD BE ON THERE.
SO WE HAVE TO REVIEW THE AGENDA, AGENDA AGENDA TOMORROW MAY, RIGHT? YES.
SO THERE IS A, A FIRST TOWN BOARD MEETING FOR 2025 WILL BE TOMORROW AT SEVEN 30.
SO WE JUST WANT TO GO AHEAD AND REVIEW THE AGENDA.
DIDN'T WE SAY WE WERE GONNA DO, UH, LIAISON REPORTS IF, UH, STARTED IN JANUARY? I HAVE, I HAVE A WHOLE REPORT.
SO WHEN, WHEN, WHEN DO, DO WE, DO WE WANT TO HAVE AS PART OF THE, AT THE BEGINNING AS PART OF THE BOARD MEETING? YOU'RE SAYING AS PART OF THE BOARD MEETING, WOULD YOU, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE BOARD? WE COULD DO IT AT EITHER WORK SESSIONS OR WE, SHE COULD DO IT AT, UH, UH, AT THE REGULAR MEETING.
I JUST DON'T KNOW WHICH FORUM.
I THINK FORUM WE DO IT IN, WE SHOULD PROBABLY BE HERE BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE A FULL AGENDA FOR OUR TOWN BOARD MEETING.
RIGHT? SO, SO WE CAN'T START TONIGHT.
UNLESS YOU WANNA START TONIGHT.
I MEAN, I HAVE A WHOLE, I HAVE A WHOLE SLEW.
I CAN, BUT IF IT, IF WE REALLY WANT THE PUBLIC TO HEAR WHAT'S GOING ON, WE SHOULD ANNOUNCE.
WE SHOULD ANNOUNCE THIS DOESN'T GET THE AUDIENCE THAT THE REGULAR BOARD THAT'S, THAT'S TRUE ALSO.
THEN, THEN IF YOU NOTICE LEY LEY DOES IT AT THE REGULAR BOARD.
SO THEN WE CAN, SO YOU WANNA DO IT FOR ALEY? I MEAN, YOU WANNA DO IT FOR TOMORROW? WE CAN DO IT FOR LEY.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE MAYOR WOULD, DO YOU DO IT FOR TOMORROW? OR DO WE WANT I THINK WE COULD DO IT TOMORROW.
SO THEN WE SET FOR THE NEXT AGENDA FOR THE NEXT, FOR THE NEXT AGENDA.
SO, SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE WE ARE EVERYONE'S AWARE THAT GOING FORWARD AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR TOWN BOARD MEETINGS OR SO MADAM CLERK, YOU'LL ADD THAT TO THE, THE, THE BOARD MEETING AGENDA, THE LIAISON, UM, LIAISON REPORTS.
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ARE WE GOING TO EACH GIVE REPORTS OR ARE WE GOING TO ALTERNATE BY? I THINK WE SHOULD ALTERNATE.I THINK WE SHOULD ALTERNATE BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT.
WE ALL, SO WE CAN JUST GO, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO WHATEVER ORDER YOU WANNA GO INTO.
YOU WANNA GO ALPHABETICAL ORDER OR BIGGEST DEPEND ON WHATEVER YOU WANT.
SHORTEST, FIRST, RIGHT? SHORTEST LAST.
WE HAVE TO OUT, DO WE WANT HER ON LIKE FUTURE AGENDAS? ON THE NEXT AGENDA? UM, HAVE LIKE A LIST AND SAY, UH, THIS WEEK IT'S GONNA BE GINA THAT'S NO, NO, I'M JUST ASKING.
I'M SAYING, SO THE AGENDA, SO THIS WAY I COULD SAY THE FEBRUARY 28TH MEETING, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, FEBRUARY 28TH MEETING IS GONNA BE, UM, YOU MM-HMM
UH, IT COULD, THE, THE MARCH MEETING WILL ABSOLUTELY BE MAYBE POSTED POST LIKE A LITTLE, A BRIEF CALENDAR.
SO THIS WAY EVERYBODY KNOWS WHEN THE LIAISON REPORTS ARE GONNA BE.
THAT'S, AND THEN, AND THEN EVERYBODY COULD SORT OF PREPARE, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL HAVE WEEKS TO PREPARE A PRESENTATION.
'CAUSE I DON'T LIKE THAT IDEA BECAUSE IT MAY BE THAT SOMETHING IN BUILDING IS, YOU KNOW, REALLY PRESSING.
UM, BUT THAT DOESN'T COME UP FOR ANOTHER FOUR WEEKS.
SO I THINK IT'D BE BETTER TO HAVE SHORTER REPORTS OR EVERYBODY'S REPORTING.
UM, BUT LET'S, LET'S DISCUSS THAT.
WELL, EVERYONE DOESN'T HAVE TO REPORT ON ALL OF THEIR COMMITTEES.
THEY CAN REPORT, CHOOSE A, A COMMITTEE TO REPORT, RIGHT? ABSOLUTELY.
YOU'RE ONLY GONNA REPORT ABOUT SOMETHING THAT'S NOTABLE.
HAVE TO REPORT THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY NET HOT TOPICS.
AND AS LONG AS WE'RE STARTING OFF THE NEW YEAR, I THINK THAT, UM, THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA IN, IN THE, IN MEMORY OF THOSE KILLED THERE.
THERE'S SO MUCH MOMENT OF SILENCE.
THAT IT WOULD, THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH AWFULNESS IN THE WORLD.
SUDAN WAS JUST NOTED TODAY BY THE, BY THE UNITED STATES AS BEING GUILTY OF GENOCIDE.
SO WE'VE GOT SOME, SOME, A LOT OF TERRIBLE THINGS.
I THINK WE CAN SHORTEN THAT AND MAKE IT MORE GENERAL.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S A SHAME THAT THERE IS SO MUCH THAT IS AWFUL.
BUT WE, WE NEED TO, WE'RE ALL SENSITIVE TO THAT AND REALLY CARE ABOUT IT.
AND THERE WAS A HUGE EARTHQUAKE IN, UH, MOUNT EVEREST.
SO WHAT JUST WENT ON IN NEW ORLEANS? JOY, WILL YOU PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.
COUNCILMAN COUNCILWOMAN HABER, CAN YOU PLEASE I'LL DRAFT SOME LANGUAGE.
AND THEN WE CAN, SO WE CAN START THAT.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE PRESENTATIONS.
YEAH, THAT'S, UH, THAT'S JUST A QUICK, UH, PRESENTATION.
IS THAT 15, 20, 80, 10, 75, 10 MAX.
OUR RULE? NO, IT WOULD BE FIVE MINUTES.
HAVE THEY BEEN ADVICE OF THAT? IS HE AWARE? MR. MANUEL IS AWARE OF THAT? YEAH, IS IT IS THERE'S NOT GONNA BE LIKE VIDEOS AND, YOU KNOW, PERFORMANCES.
I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU THE LIST STUFF.
HE'S NOT GONNA BUILD LIKE A NEW PROJECT OR, OH, I'M SORRY'S.
NO, HE'S, UH, HE HAD AN EAGLE SCOUT PRESENTATION AND I INVITED HIM TO COME HERE.
SO, BUT DO WE DO THIS FOR ALL WE THE FIVE MINUTES? YEAH, SOMETIMES.
YOU KNOW, IF I MISS IT, SOMETIMES I'LL SAY IT.
JUST SHOW UP ALL IS IT POWERPOINT? IS IT? NO, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST GONNA SPEAK.
IS HE GETTING A, A CERTIFICATE? YEAH.
ALL IS IT IS FROM THE BOARD OR IS THIS COMING FROM YOU? NO, THIS IS JUST A REGULAR CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION, YOU KNOW, SMALL FROM THE BOARD.
IT'S A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION.
IT REALLY SHOULD BE A CERTIFICATE OF ACCOMPLISHMENT.
IF IT'S AN EQUAL JOB, THAT'S A MAJOR ACCOMPLISHMENT.
SO, SO CAN YOU SWITCH, CAN YOU MAKE SURE IT SAYS ACCOMPLISHMENT? IS THAT THE LANGUAGE YOU USE? WE USED MARY.
WELL, KRISTA HAS ALREADY DONE, YOU KNOW, THE CERTIFICATES.
SO IT'S, UH, I MEAN IT DOESN'T, IT IT CAN APPLY.
I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, FRANCIS.
IT CAN APPLY ALSO THOUGH, FOR, SO WE CAN APPRECIATE HIS ACCOMPLISHMENT.
HOW ABOUT THAT
SO DOES SHE HAVE, DOES SHE HAVE DIFFERENT CERTIFICATES? ONE THAT SAYS APPRECIATION, ONE THAT SAYS A ACCOMPLISHMENT NO.
SO MAYBE WE CAN, CAN YOU SUGGEST THAT TO HER? I KNOW SHE REPORTS INTO YEAH, RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE HAVE LIKE, SO MUCH BACKUP THAT, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE HER KEEP DOING THINGS OVER.
SO WHAT IS THE WORDING? WHAT'S THE BOILERPLATE WORDING ON CERTIFICATE? IT'S A CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION.
AND THEN SO THEY ALL SAY CERTIFICATE OF APPRECIATION.
BUT THEY HAVE STANDARD ONES THAT YOU CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TEMPLATES SO THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU WORK WITH IT.
WE HAVE APPRECIATION ONES, WHATEVER WE WRITE IT
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ON THERE.BUT YOU CAN YES, YOU CAN ADD THE LANGUAGE ON THERE.
MAYBE I'LL ASK CHRIS TO DO LIKE A, IN THE FUTURE AN EAGLE SCOUT, UH, OR GOLD STAR, UM, CERTIFICATE.
AND THEN IT COULD BE LIKE A FORM ONE AND MAYBE MAKE A NICER GO AWARD.
THOSE ARE THE MOTHERS GOLD STAR.
UM, UM, BECAUSE I, I DON'T WANNA DO PAST PRACTICE.
SO, UM, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, UM, IT SAYS THAT, UM, INTERRUPTIONS, UM, BY US, ME OR THE PUBLIC WILL NOT BE PERMITTED.
AND IT SAYS IF A SPEAKER INSISTS ON AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER, SHOULD THE ANSWER BE PROVIDED OR PART OF THE FIVE MINUTES? SO I WANTED TO KNOW, BECAUSE IN THE LA IN THE LAST MONTH MM-HMM
WHAT HAPPENED WAS WE WERE ANSWERING THEM MM-HMM
SO AS A COURTESY, I STOPPED THE CLOCK WHILE THE TOWN BOARD WAS SPEAKING.
UM, I, I DID NOTICE A FEW TIMES IT WAS NOT REQUESTED BY THE PERSON AT THE PODIUM MM-HMM
SO AT THAT POINT, I WOULD SAY THAT FOLLOW OUR, THAT THE TIME SHOULD BE STOPPED IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR.
UM, IF, I MEAN, IF A, IF ONE OF THE TOWN BOARD MEMBERS FELT THE NEED TO RESPOND, THAT WE WOULD STOP THE CALL.
WE REALLY, WE REALLY SHOULDN'T BE CUTTING IN ON A SPEAKER OF, OF COURSE.
IF IF THEY REQUEST, IF THEY REQUEST IT, THE TIME SHOULD CONTINUE MOVING.
BUT THAT PERSON CAN YIELD BACK THEIR TIME.
IF THEY FEEL TIME, THEY SEE TIME RUNNING OUT OR THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE ANSWER THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, THEY COULD IMMEDIATELY YIELD THAT TIME BACK.
WE'VE HELD IT OVER A FEW TIMES.
WE'RE IN NO BETTER POSITION TO PASS THAT RESOLUTION AT THIS POINT.
SO I'D ASK IF, IF IT COULD BE REMOVED AND I WILL REACH OUT TO THE REPRESENTATIVE AND HOPEFULLY ASK THAT IT BE PUT BACK ON AGAIN SOMETIME SOON.
DID HE SAY HOLDOVER TB FOUR? NO, REMOVE? YES.
I, I WOULD SAY REMOVE FOR NOW.
WE'VE HELD IT OVER A FEW TIMES AND WE'RE IN NO BETTER POSITION.
SO I, I WOULD ASK THAT IT'S TAKEN OFF FOR NOW, BUT HOPEFULLY IT'S BACK ON SOON.
AND WE'RE GOOD WITH THE CSCA NOW? YES.
DO, UM, ON CO2, DO WE NEED ANY MORE DETAIL ON THAT? ON WHAT? CO2 CO2, THE BUDGET AMENDMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SOLUTIONS BILL? YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT ONE HAS A BIT OF STRANGE WORDING TO YEAH, YEAH.
SO DO WE NEED AN EXPLANATION FROM THE COMP CONTROLLER ABOUT IT BEHALF? YEAH.
KIMBERLY, GIVE ME AN EXPLANATION.
YEAH, AND I MEAN, IF THAT'S THE TITLE, IT SHOULD BE CAPS, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SOLUTIONS, BILL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS WITH A BIT MORE.
SHOULD WE ASK KIMBERLY TO COME DOWN? IS SHE HERE? SHE'S, SHE'S, SHE'S SHOW IS, UM, OKAY.
I'M, I'M LISTENING, BUT I'M ALSO TYPING, SO CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? WE WERE JUST ASKING FOR SOME MORE DETAIL AND CLARITY ON CO2, THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT
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FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT SOLUTIONS.BILL? UM, UH, UH, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT RIGHT NOW.
I'D HAVE TO READ IT AND GET BACK TO YOU.
BUT YOU'LL PROVIDE THE DETAIL IN TIME FOR THE AGENDA FOR TOMORROW? YES.
UNLESS YOU FEEL LIKE WE NEED TO HOLD, HOLD IT OVER, BUT IT'S UP TO YOU, BUT COULD TYPICALLY GET INFO OKAY.
AND IF IT'S NOT READY FOR TOMORROW, HOLD IT OVER AT THAT TIME.
ANYTHING ELSE? UH, JOE, YOU WERE GONNA GIVE ME LIKE A LIST OF THE AGENDA.
I DON'T SEE ANY DETAILS REALLY.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE, IT'S THREE, IT'S FOUR LINES LONG, THAT MOTION, DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WE USED TO HAVE.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING INDIVIDUAL, PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS, UM, TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING PROPOSED PENDING AND CURRENT LITIGATION AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING NEGOTIATIONS.
ARE THERE ANY APPOINTMENTS OR ANYTHING THAT WE'RE NO.
UM, AND THIS IS A MOTION? YES.
ARE YOU MAKING THE MOTION? I'M MAKING THAT MOTION.