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           IN PROGRESS. 
          OKAY. 
          WELCOME, UH, TARA TOWN, 
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UH, YOU KNOW, BOARD, UH, MEETING TODAY. 
          OUR WORK SESSION TODAY. 
          IT'S, UH, JANUARY 14TH, UM, AFTER FIVE 30. 
          AND OUR FIRST, UM, DISCUSSION WILL BE, UM, RELATING TO THE POLICE, UH, DEPARTMENT COURTHOUSE. 
          GARRETT, DO YOU WANT TO SPEAK? AND WE HAVE THE COMMISSIONER, THE CHIEF, AND, UM, MIKE MARINO AND CAPTAIN HERE ALSO. 
          SO YOU COULD JOIN US. 
          NO, NO. 
          AND NO ONE FROM THE COURTHOUSE. 
          I DON'T. 
          AND WE ALSO WAS THE, AND WE ALSO HAVE, UH, PAUL, OH, SORRY. 
          SUPERVISOR. 
          WAS THE, UH, THE COURT INVITED? I, I SENT IT TO EVERYBODY. 
          I'M PRETTY SURE I INVITED THEM. 
          DID YOU KNOW CONFIRMATION? I, I DIDN'T GET CONFIRMATION. 
          WOULD YOU VERIFY THAT, PLEASE? WE HAVE THE MAYOR OF OUR, YOU VERIFY THAT YOU SENT IT TO THEM, PLEASE. 
          UM, LET'S, I'LL ON THE EMAIL, NO, PAUL, CONVENIENTLY, I MEAN, UH, JOE CONVENIENTLY LEFT THE SEAT OPEN FOR YOU,  FOR HIM. 
          ANYTHING,  VOICE. 
          SEE IF I HAVE, I ACTUALLY, I WANNA SIT NEXT TO ME. 
          GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. 
          KOBE POWELL, CHIEF OF POLICE, UM, HERE TO DISCUSS OUR HEADQUARTERS BUILDING AND, UH, THE HIRING OF AN ARCHITECT TO HELP US, UH, IMPROVE OUR CURRENT FACILITY. 
          THE CURRENT HEADQUARTERS OF THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS BUILT IN 1956. 
          AT THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION, THE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYED 63 MEN AND HAD 12 VEHICLES. 
          AND THAT 63 MEN IS TO MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN HAVING MALE AND FEMALE OFFICERS AND NEED FOR LOCKER ROOMS FOR BOTH. 
          BUT THE DEPARTMENT EMPLOYED 63 MEN HAD 12 VEHICLES TODAY, THE DEPARTMENT MAINTAINS A WORKFORCE OF APPROXIMATELY 170 EMPLOYEES AND 90 VEHICLES DURING A NEEDS ASSESSMENT CONDUCTED IN 2006, SEVERAL AREAS THAT REQUIRED IMPROVEMENTS WERE IDENTIFIED AND STILL WERE IDENTIFIED AND STILL NEED TO BE ADDRESSED. 
          SOME AREAS IDENTIFIED INCLUDE THE BUILDING'S, HVAC SYSTEM, ELEVATORS, THE BOILER PLUMBING, INADEQUATE ELECTRICAL SERVICE, THE RE RETAINING WALL IN THE PARKING LOT, AND A DA COMPLIANCE TO NAME A FEW. 
          APPROXIMATELY FIVE YEARS AGO, A GROUP WAS ESTABLISHED TO BEGIN SEARCHING FOR A SUITABLE LOCATION FOR A NEW POLICE AND COURT FACILITY. 
          THIS GROUP CONSISTED OF MEMBERS OF THE GREENBURG POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE COURT ADMINISTRATOR, DPW, COMMISSIONER AND DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, FORMER COUNCILMAN KEN JONES, AND OTHER RESIDENTS. 
          AFTER FIVE YEARS AND MORE THAN 40 PROPERTIES, ONLY TWO LOCATIONS SHOWED POTENTIAL, BUT ULTIMATELY DID NOT WORK OUT DESPITE THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES VIEWED. 
          ONE AVENUE THAT WAS NOT THOROUGHLY EXPLORED WAS A PROFESSIONAL EVALUATION OF OUR CURRENT FACILITY AT 180 8 TERRYTOWN ROAD. 
          A COMPREHENSIVE MASTER PLAN TO BRING OUR EXISTING LOCATION UP TO CODE AND INTO SERVICEABLE CONDITION NOW SEEMS LIKE OUR BEST AND MOST REALISTIC OPTION. 
          A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS WAS ISSUED ON MARCH 1ST, 2024, ATTRACTING RESPONSES FROM 11 DIFFERENT FIRMS. WHEN MARCH 18TH, 2024, A WALKTHROUGH WAS CONDUCTED AT OUR HEADQUARTERS, AND AT LEAST 10 OF THOSE FIRMS ATTENDED. 
          THE SUBMITTED PROPOSALS WERE REVIEWED PRODUCING FOUR FINALISTS, EACH OF WHICH WAS INTERVIEWED BY THE TOWN BOARD, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE COURT ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER WITH VERY LIMITED SPACE. 
          THE PURPOSE OF THIS RFP WITH TO HIRE AN ARCHITECTURAL GROUP THAT SPECIALIZES IN EMERGENCY SERVICES FACILITIES TO REVIEW THE CURRENT SITE AND DETERMINE A COST EFFECTIVE SOLUTION TO ADDRESS SEVERAL OF THE NEEDS AS OUTLINED IN THE NEEDS ASSESSMENT. 
          THIS IS EVEN MORE CRUCIAL WITH OUR CURRENT NEED TO MAKE ESSENTIAL REPAIRS AS IT WOULD BE UNWISE AND FISCALLY IRRESPONSIBLE TO MAKE REPAIRS TO PORTIONS OF THE BUILDING THAT MAY SUBSEQUENTLY HAVE TO BE REMOVED OR DEMOLISHED. 
          IT IS, WITH ALL THESE THINGS IN CONSIDERATION THAT WE NEED PROFESSIONAL ASSISTANCE AND A PLAN FOR MOVING FORWARD AT OUR CURRENT LOCATION. 
          UM, OBVIOUSLY COMMISSIONER DUQUE IS HERE, CONSIDERING WHAT HE DOES FOR THE TOWN COMMISSIONER DUQUE, CAPTAIN VALENTINE AND DETECTIVE MARINO, THEY WERE A PART OF THE GROUP THAT STARTED WORKING ON THIS FIVE YEARS AGO. 
          SO, I'M SORRY. 
          SO, CLUSTER, SORRY. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, WHILE I HAVE BEEN BROUGHT IN AND I BELIEVE UP TO SPEED, THEY DO HAVE THE LIVED EXPERIENCE OF THIS PROBLEM. 
          AND, UM, THAT'S JUST A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE WERE LOOKING TO DO, HOPING TO DO. 
          AND, UM, I GUESS I'LL NOW PASS THIS OVER. 
          JUST, JUST A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO ADD TO THAT. 
          THANKS, CHIEF. 
          WHEN CAPTAIN VALENTINE AND CHIEF 
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POWELL, UH, APPROACHED ME, UM, ABOUT THE NEED TO TACKLE THE CHALLENGES AT, AT 180 8, UH, HILLSIDE AVENUE, THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT STRUCK ME AS VERY COMPLEX. 
          AND NUMBER ONE, THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY FACE. 
          AND THEN NUMBER TWO, THE PLANNING AND, AND, AND THE FISCAL CHALLENGES THAT YOU FACE AS A TOWN BOARD. 
          SO WE KNOW WE'VE GOT A VERY DIFFICULT SITE WITH, WITH, WITH A LOT OF NEEDS, BUT IT'S, AND THEY'RE EXPENSIVE. 
          SO HOW DO YOU BUDGET FOR THEM? SO OUR MISSION REALLY WAS, WE DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN GO OUT AND GET AN ARCHITECT AND SAY, PLEASE DO A, B, AND C. 
          RIGHT? AND, 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF A SHOULD BE DONE FIRST OR IF A AND B SHOULD BE DONE FIRST, OR A, B AND C SHOULD BE DONE AT ONCE OR BREAK THEM UP. 
          THEREFORE, THE APPROACH WAS REALLY TO PHASE IT, STRUCTURE IT AS WAS DESCRIBED THROUGH THIS RFP, AND TO REALLY START WITH A MASTER PLAN SO THAT YOU HAVE CONCEPTS OF WHAT REASONABLY CAN BE DONE AT 180 8 TERRYTOWN ROAD. 
          YOU HAVE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE COSTS FOR PERHAPS A MULTI-PHASE PROJECT SO THAT YOU CAN SAY TO YOURSELVES, WE NEED TO BOND OR WE DON'T, UM, WE NEED TO BOND FOR A, BUT WE DON'T, MAY NOT NEED TO BOND FOR B. 
          SO WITH ALL THOSE, YOU KNOW, VARIABLES, THIS SEEMED TO BE THE PROPER APPROACH AND GO THE MASTER PLAN ROUTE. 
          UM, WHICH THE NEXT STEPS WILL BE YES TO ONCE WE HAVE A ROADMAP THROUGH A MASTER PLAN, WILL BE TO USE THE ARCHITECT TO THEN ACTUALLY DO CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. 
          BUT WE, WE, WE, WE CAN'T GET TO CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS WITHOUT THIS DOCUMENT. 
          AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO ADD IS, I KNOW THERE'S GONNA BE, UM, SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT, UM, POTENTIAL FOR OFFSITE SOLUTIONS. 
          AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT THERE'S MANY VARIABLES THERE WHERE 18 SQUARE MILES, THERE'S INFINITE AMOUNT OF SITES OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, COULD BE LOOKED AT AND, AND MANY WERE. 
          UM, BUT WHAT THE TOWN OWNS AND CONTROLS IS 180 8 TERRYTOWN. 
          SO I ADMITTEDLY THE RFP WAS GEARED TOWARDS THAT. 
          BUT HAVING SAID THAT, THIS RFP AND THE RESPONSE WE HAVE FROM A PREFERRED ARCHITECT DOES LEAD TO LEND TO THE FLEXIBILITY TO TAKE A LOOK AT SOME OUTSIDE SITES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          IN A LIMITED CAPACITY. 
          THEY'RE NOT REAL ESTATE BROKERS, BUT, UM, THEY WILL WORK WITH US. 
          AND IF A PREFERRED SITE IS IDENTIFIED OFFSITE, THEY CAN ALSO GIVE ORDER OF MAGNITUDE THERE SO THAT, YOU KNOW, UM, WHERE AT LEAST ORDER OF MAGNITUDE IT'S PRUDENT TO, YOU KNOW, ADVANCE THINGS TO THE NEXT LEVEL OR THINK ABOUT ADVANCING TO THE NEXT LEVEL. 
          I WOULD ADD THAT SOME PART OF THAT ORDER OF MAGNITUDE IS ACCESSIBILITY. 
          SO THE CURRENT SITE IS ACCESSIBLE TO MAJOR ROADWAYS AND MAJOR HIGHWAYS. 
          SO JUST TO GIVE A BROADER PICTURE, WE WOULD WANT TO BE CERTAIN THAT, UM, OUR OFFICERS HAVE THAT ACCESSIBILITY. 
          AND SO IF ANYONE THINKS THAT WE CAN PUT IT ANYWHERE WITHIN THAT 18 SQUARE MILES, THAT IS A CONSIDERATION. 
          SO THAT IS A LITTLE BIT LIMITING. 
          THE, UM, ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, I, WHEN WE HAD THE INTERVIEWS, UM, TO ME WHAT STOOD OUT WAS THE SUGGESTION THAT SOME OF THE FIRMS HAD SAYING, WE SHOULD MOVE THE COURTHOUSE, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE EXISTING, YOU KNOW, POLICE HEADQUARTERS. 
          AND I THINK THAT MAKES AN AWFUL LOT OF SENSE, AND I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS DOABLE. 
          WE HAVE $7 MILLION IN CASH RIGHT NOW THAT WE SAVED UP. 
          SO WE COULD SPEND $7 MILLION WITHOUT GOING FOR A REFEREND REFERENDUM, JUST JUST FOR THE COURTHOUSE. 
          SO I'M SORT OF WONDERING, UM, IF WE LOOKED AT THIS AND SAID OUR FIRST GOAL IS, UM, TO MOVE THE COURTHOUSE, UM, YOU KNOW, OUT OF THE EXISTING LOCATION, THEN THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS WOULD HAVE THE WHOLE, YOU KNOW, COULD HAVE THE WHOLE CAMP, COULD HAVE THE WHOLE CAMPUS. 
          THAT TO ME IS SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY DOABLE AND COULD BE DONE, YOU KNOW, RELATIVELY QUICKLY. 
          AND I'M WONDERING IF WE COULD GET THE, IF WE'RE GONNA BE HIRING AN OUTSIDE FIRM, IF WE COULD, INSTEAD OF GETTING THEM TO COME UP WITH ALL THESE PIE IN THE SKY IDEAS OF, YOU KNOW, JUST FOCUS ON, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH SPACE DO WE NEED FOR THE COURTHOUSE? UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY IF THE POLICE HAVE THE, THE ENTIRE HEADQUARTERS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, CAMPUS HAS, YOU KNOW, ONE OPTION, WHAT COULD YOU DO WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD WE DO AT THAT SITE? TO ME, THAT WOULD BE THE EASIEST. 
          THE THING IS, MR. FINER, AND YOU USED THE WORD FOCUS. 
          CAN YOU BRING THE MICROPHONE CLOSER? SORRY. 
          THE THING IS, MR. FINER, YOU USED THE WORD FOCUS. 
          WE ARE TRYING TO FOCUS WHAT IS WITHIN OUR CONTROL. 
          OUR BUILDING IS WITHIN OUR CONTROL, 
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YOU KNOW, SPEAKING FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          THE COURT IS A SEPARATE TOWN DEPARTMENT. 
          EVEN THOUGH WE SHARE A FINITE SPACE, SO TO SPEAK, WHEN THE FIRMS THAT WERE INTERVIEWED MADE MENTION OF, OH, WELL IF WE MOVE TO COURT, OF COURSE THAT IS THE SIMPLEST AND EASIEST WAY TO FREE UP A TON OF SPACE. 
          AT THE SAME TIME, IT MAY NOT BE THE MOST REALISTIC OPTION OR THE OPTION THAT WE CAN PURSUE THE FASTEST. 
          SO THE THING IS, WHEN THEY COME AND THEY ACTUALLY LOOK AT OUR BUILDING, FOR US, LOOK AT THE PROPERTY, FOR US, THE WHOLE POINT OF IT IS, IS TO GET IDEAS. 
          NOT, YOU KNOW, A CASUAL, OH, WELL THIS WOULD BE MUCH EASIER IF WE JUST MOVE THE COURT. 
          YOU KNOW, IT'S A STATEMENT, IT'S NOT A PLAN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE POINT IS TO GET A PLAN SO WE CAN ADDRESS THE NEEDS OF OUR BUILDING AND THEN MOVE FORWARD. 
          IF THAT PLAN INCLUDES THE COURT, GREAT. 
          IF, IF IT HAS TO EXCLUDE THE COURT, WE WILL AT LEAST HAVE IT. 
          WE'LL HAVE LIKELY A FEW OPTIONS, AND THEN WE CAN MAKE A DECISION. 
          THE BOARD CAN MAKE A DECISION ON THE OPTION THAT IS BEST SO WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND DO THIS BECAUSE IT NEEDS DOING. 
          AND AGAIN, THESE GENTLEMEN HERE HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS FOR GOING ON FIVE YEARS NOW, MYSELF, ABOUT TWO AND A HALF. 
          AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A SIMPLE THING TO SAY, OH, IF WE JUST MOVE THE COURT, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT THAT SIMPLE. 
          WE NEED TO LET THEM COME IN AND DO WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HIRE THEM TO DO. 
          SO WE CAN HAVE THAT AS AN OPTION AND THEN A PLAN FOR IT, BUT PERHAPS HAVE OTHER OPTIONS THAT MIGHT BE MORE FEASIBLE OR MORE COST EFFECTIVE, OR MAYBE THAT WE COULD ACCOMPLISH MORE EXPEDIENTLY. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT SUPERVISOR, I THINK AS THE, BOTH GARRETT AND THE CHIEF BOTH LAID OUT, THE PLAN IS TO HAVE A PLAN. 
          WE HAVE AN IDEA IN OUR MINDS, AND I DON'T DISAGREE WITH YOU ABOUT THE POTENTIAL BENEFIT OF THAT PARTICULAR PLAN, BUT WE WANNA SEE ALL THE PLANS AND DECIDE ALTOGETHER WHAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE FOR THE COURT AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE BRINGING IN AN EXPERT WHO WILL DO THAT FOR US, SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO JUST SURMISE WHAT MIGHT BE, THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US OPTIONS. 
          THEY'RE GONNA TELL US THE PROS AND CONS OF THESE OPTIONS. 
          SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THE BEAUTY OF HIRING SOMEONE WHO DOES THIS WORK. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I WOULD SAY THAT THE USE OF PIE, QUOTE UNQUOTE PIE IN THE SKY IS A MISAPPROPRIATION OF THAT TERM, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AT ALL PIE IN THE SKY. 
          THE CONSULTANT WILL LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS, EITHER PUTTING EVERYTHING, LEAVING EVERYTHING ON SITE. 
          AND THERE ARE SOME BENEFITS TO THAT LOGISTICALLY IN TERMS OF THE INTERFACE BETWEEN THE POLICE STATION AND THE COURTHOUSE, AND ALSO MOVING THE COURTHOUSE SEPARATELY. 
          BUT THAT IS PART OF THEIR, THE DETERMINATION THAT THEY'RE GOING TO MAKE. 
          ONE OTHER POINT, WHILE THE UPFRONT EXPENSE BY DIVIDING IT THIS YEAR AND A COUPLE OF YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, UM, MAY SEEM LIKE ONE CONCEPT. 
          I'M NOT SAYING GOOD, BAD, OR INDIFFERENT, BUT IT WILL IN INEVITABLY COST MORE BECAUSE THERE IS ECONOMY OF SCALE ABOUT DOING THIS SINGLE PROJECT IN ONE, ONE FELL SWOOP, UM, IN ONE LOCATION. 
          RIGHT. 
          THE ONLY OTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS I'M TRYING TO BE LIKE, TAKE WORST CASE SCENARIOS. 
          I KNOW THAT RESIDENTS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TAXES. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND I, I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IF WE SAY I, IN AN IDEAL WOR WORLD, YOU KNOW, WE ARE GONNA HAVE A BEAUTIFUL NEW POLICE HEADQUARTERS, A BEAUTIFUL NEW COURT THAT'S A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS, IT'S NEVER GONNA FLY, GONNA DIDN'T FLY LAST TIME, IT'S NOT GONNA FLY, FLY AGAIN. 
          I'M SAYING IT'S NOT GONNA FLY. 
          SO I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF WE BASICALLY, UM, COME UP WITH A PLAN, AND IF WE SAY TO THE, UM, THE GROUP THAT'S GONNA BE STUDYING, THIS IS OUR BUDGET, THIS IS HOW MUCH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WILLING TO SPEND, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA SPEND MORE THAN THAT, THEN I FEEL THAT, THAT THEIR, THE EXPECTATIONS FOR THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE GONNA BE, UM, MORE MANAGEABLE AND THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE WE COULD GET, GET SOMETHING THROUGH. 
          AND THE REASON WHY I THINK TO THAT, BUT THAT, TO THAT POINT IT MAKES SENSE. 
          IT MAKES SENSE. 
          BUT I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO SEE IS WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE. 
          LET THEM COME AND SAY, HERE IS COST ONE HERE IS COST TWO, HERE'S COST THREE. 
          LET US BRING THOSE OPTIONS. 
          LET, LET ME JUST FINISH AND LET THEM SIT DOWN. 
          SORRY FRANCIS, I'M SORRY. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          BUT LET, LET THEM BRING TO US, LET US NOT SAY, OKAY, I HAVE $10 AND, AND THIS IS ALL YOU CAN MAKE. 
          WE WANNA SEE WHAT WE CAN GET. 
          AND MAYBE THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN, ESPECIALLY IF WE DO PRESENT THAT TO, TO THE COMMUNITY TO SAY, THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED. 
          THIS IS WHAT THE COST IS GONNA BE SO WE CAN GET BUY-IN FROM IT. 
          BUT TO SHUT THEM OFF AT THE TOP, THAT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          THAT'S JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          THAT'S NOT JUST, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. 
          AND IF THE PROPOSAL ARE, ARE ALL TOO EXPENSIVE, WE SAY, WELL, YOU GOTTA COME DOWN. 
          WE, WE CAN'T AFFORD THAT. 
          AND THERE'S NEGOTIATION AND THAT'S WHAT YOU DO MONEY. 
          IT'S NOT ONLY A NEGOTIATION, 
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IT'S HOW YOU BEST, YOU BEST MANAGE THAT PROCESS IN TERMS OF, OKAY, WE CAN'T AFFORD THIS. 
          WHAT WHAT ABSOLUTELY RECOMMENDATIONS CAN BE MADE TO REDUCE THE COST, BUT LET'S SEE WHAT THE WHOLE THING IS. 
          AND REMEMBER THEIR BUDGET NUMBERS UP THE KNEES. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          NO, I, I ACTUALLY, I CUT OFF, UM, I COST TRANSITION OFF, SO I APOLOGIZE. 
          SO, SO PAUL, WHAT DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD YOU PUT ON MOVING THE COURTHOUSE AWAY? WELL, MY, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WOULD PROBABLY BE UNDER $15 MILLION. 
          UM, MY, JUST THE COURT, THAT NUMBER. 
          WHAT? WELL, I SPOKE TO RICH, I SPOKE TO FRANK MODO. 
          UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE SHOWN ME CONTRACTORS, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME MODULAR, UH, BUILDINGS FOR, FOR THE, FOR THE, FOR THE COURTHOUSE. 
          UM, AND WHERE WE BEEN LOCATED, UH, THEY HAVE, THERE'S, THERE'S OPTIONS, BUT THERE'S, WE COULD BE, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS WHY IT'S FIVE YEARS, YOU KNOW, IT'S NO, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO TRY AND ACTUALLY PIN DOWN THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING SOME OF THESE THINGS. 
          WE THOUGHT WE HAD PRESENTATIONS FIVE YEARS AGO, WE PAID SOMEBODY TO GO OUT AND THEY LOOKED AT, WHAT, 48 PROPERTIES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO TWO WHAT SEEMED TO BE VIABLE AND THEY WEREN'T. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND SO IF NOW YOU'RE SAYING, WELL, THERE MIGHT BE SOME SITE SOMEPLACE THAT WASN'T EXPLORED DURING THAT ORIGINAL TIME, WELL, YOU KNOW, LET'S, LET'S ACTUALLY HEAR WHAT IT IS AS OPPOSED TO THERE MAY BE, AND THE MEANTIME, WE'RE CLEARLY, CLEARLY GOT A PROBLEM WITH OUR POLICE STATION AND OUR COURTHOUSE AS WELL, FOR THAT MATTER. 
          I'M NOT. 
          AND SO IT SEEMS LIKE A VIABLE, THAT'S ACTUALLY, WE NEVER DID THIS, WE DIDN'T DO IT BEFORE BECAUSE THERE WAS SOMEBODY THAT SUPPOSEDLY WAS INTERESTED AND THE POLICE STATION COURTHOUSE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE GATEWAY AT GREENBURG. 
          IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT TOO FAR FROM THE WHITE PLAINS TRADE STATION. 
          WE HAVE ALL THOSE KIND OF THINGS GOING FOR US. 
          AND THEN, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, WITH THAT ROCK, UH, IT'S REALLY NOT WORTH MUCH, YOU KNOW, WHY DON'T GIVE THIS A SHOT? I'M NOT SAYING DON'T GIVE IT A SHOT, I'M JUST SAYING I WOULD'VE, TO ME, I'M LIKE A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE, NOT 99.9% SURE THAT IF WE FOCUSED ON THE, ON MOVING THE COURTHOUSE, UH, OUT. 
          AND, AND THAT WOULD BE OUR FOCUS FOR THE NEXT YEAR. 
          UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE COURTHOUSE, IT WOULD FREE UP SPACE AT THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS. 
          UM, BASICALLY, UH, THE, ONCE THE COURTHOUSE IS OUT, UH, THE POLICE WOULD HAVE MORE SPACE. 
          UM, BUT I THINK YOU'RE PUTTING A CAR BEFORE DIVORCE. 
          NO, I'M, I'M, I THINK YOU'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. 
          LET US, I THINK THIS DISCUSSION SHOULD COME WHEN WE COME BACK AND HEAR WHAT, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE. 
          AND THEN WE CAN SAY, OKAY, IT MAKES SENSE TO MOVE THE COURTHOUSE, UM, OUTSIDE AND, AND, AND HAVE THE POLICE STATION USED FOR OVERFLOW WHEN WE ARE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION OR WHATEVER IT TURNS OUT TO BE. 
          BUT THE FACT THAT, THE FACT THAT WE ARE SAYING THAT JUST GO AHEAD AND MOVE THE COURTHOUSE, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          CHIEF, I'M SORRY, BECAUSE YOU KEPT LOOKING AT ME. 
          THE, THE, I'M SORRY. 
          ADD, MOVING THE COURTHOUSE OUT DOES NOT SOLVE THE AADA A ISSUES WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING. 
          NO, WE, SO JUST SAYING THEY HAVE THE EXISTING BUILDING IN MORE SPACE FROM THE COURTHOUSE DOESN'T REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUES. 
          AND THERE'S ISSUES WITH WIRING. 
          THERE'S SOME, YEAH. 
          YOU NAME THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUE. 
          WE HAVE IT WITH THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          AND AS THE CHIEF MENTIONED, IT REALLY, IT WAS NOT MADE FOR THE ALMOST 300% INCREASE IN, IN OCCUPANCY THAT IT HAS NOW. 
          AND THE TECHNOLOGY AS A WHOLE HAS CHANGED. 
          SO WHAT WE WERE DOING BACK IN 1956, WE'RE NOT DOING IT 2025, WE ALSO HAVE A NEED FOR ESSENTIAL REPAIRS. 
          AND WITHOUT A PLAN, WE MAKE THOSE REPAIRS. 
          WE PUT OFF MAKING THOSE REPAIRS BECAUSE WE'RE WAITING FOR WHATEVER HAPPENS WITH THE COURT TO HAPPEN WITH THE COURT, IF THAT BECOMES THE PLAN. 
          AND THEN ULTIMATELY, WHEN WE GO BACK TO THE BUILDING TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF THE BUILDING AFTER MAKING THOSE REPAIRS, WE COULD THROW GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD UNDOING WORK THAT THE TOWN SPENT MONEY FOR IN THE BUILDING BECAUSE WE DID NOT PLAN OUT HOW TO APPROACH IT INTELLIGENTLY. 
          THIS IS A PLAN TO APPROACH OUR NEEDS INTELLIGENTLY. 
          SO WE CAN'T, SO WE CAN'T DEVIATE OR FOREGO THAT PLAN BECAUSE IT SEEMS SIMPLER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THE COURT FIRST. 
          AND MAY I, MAY I SAY ALSO LONG TERM, I WOULD LIKE TO POSIT THAT CONCEIVABLY, IF WE WERE TO MOVE THE COURTHOUSE AWAY AND INHABIT THE WHOLE SPACE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT MORE PHYSICAL SPACE THAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ACTUALLY NEEDS. 
          AND THEN YOU HAVE THE COURTHOUSE NEEDS. 
          SO IN EFFECT, YOU WOULD BE PAYING FOR THE UPKEEP OVER TIME OF MORE SQUARE 
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FOOTAGE THAN YOU WOULD NEED NECESSARILY. 
          AND THAT WILL COST MORE ON A YEARLY BASIS FOR THE TOWN AND FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN WHO ARE PAYING THE TAXES. 
          DOES ANYBODY FEEL I, WELL, I WAS REALLY TRYING TO SAY IS, UM, I'M LIKE CONCERNED THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A STUDY AND THEY'RE GONNA COME UP WITH LIKE THE TAJ MAHAL. 
          WHY DO YOU KEEP SAYING PIE? THIS GUY TAJ, AL, KEEP, THAT'S, WE'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT COSTS SITTING HERE. 
          WE'RE WORRIED TOO. 
          YOU'RE NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO'S, I'M NOT, I'M NOT CRITICIZING WELL, I'M JUST SAYING IS THAT I'M WONDERING IF WHEN WE HIRE THE FIRM, IF WE COULD GIVE THEM LIKE, SOME SORT OF BALLPARK DISCUSS DISCUSSION. 
          REMEMBER WE'VE ALREADY TALKED TO WHAT'S, NO, WE DIDN'T TALK ABOUT DOLLAR. 
          YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT LET THEM COME BACK WITH SOMETHING. 
          SO WE KNOW WHAT WE KNOW. 
          SO WE KNOW, BUT THAT WE HAVE A LIMITED BUDGET. 
          THEY KNOW WE HAVE A LIMITED BUDGET. 
          AND THEY MADE IT CLEAR, LOOK, GARRETT'S LAUGHING. 
          'CAUSE I MEAN, HE'S ALREADY HAD THAT COLLEGE, JUST THE TERM TOAL PIE IN THE SKY. 
          THE PHILOSOPHY OF THIS RFP IS COST EFFECTIVENESS, CROSS-REFERENCED WITH FEASIBILITY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S DRIVING THIS. 
          AND THAT'S GOING TO BE THEIR MISSION. 
          GOOD. 
          AND THAT WAS PART OF, SO THEY'RE ON AN EIGHT, EIGHT MONTH TIMEFRAME MM-HMM . 
          FOR, FOR $135,000 CONTRACT. 
          SO OUR GOAL FOURTH QUARTER THIS YEAR IS TO HAVE A ROADMAP IN, IN, IN THE TOWN BOARD'S HANDS MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE REAL DECISIONS ABOUT SOLVING THEIR NEEDS. 
          THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          THAT IS TO ME, LET ME, THAT MAKES SENSE. 
          WAY TO GO SENSE. 
          AND PART OF THAT PLAN MAY BE THAT WE HAVE TO TEMPORARILY MOVE THE COURT, UH, TO ANOTHER LOCATION TEMPORARILY SO THAT IT DOES NOT HAMPER WHATEVER IS GOING TO GO AT THE POLICE STATION. 
          BUT WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE ARE NOT THE EXPERTS. 
          AND THAT'S WHY WE DEED THIS FIRM. 
          AND THE LONGER WE DELIGHT IT, AND THE LONGER WE PUT OURSELVES AT RISK OF BEING FOUND IN VIOLATION FOR OUR, HAVING THIS POLICE STATION, HAVING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT IT DOES. 
          THE, THE OTHER, UH, QUESTION THAT I HAVE, AND I SPOKE TO MAYOR IAN WHO'S HERE, UM, IS, UM, I FEEL THAT SINCE THE COURT IS IN THE A BUDGET RATHER THAN THE B BUDGET, THAT IF WE, UM, UM, MOVE THE COURTHOUSE TO ANOTHER LOCATION, WHICH I THINK WILL EVENTUALLY DO, UM, THAT WE PROVIDE, UH, THE VILLAGES WITH, UM, WITH SPACE, UM, IN THE COURTHOUSE, UH, FOR, UH, STORAGE OR STAFFING, WHATEVER, WHAT, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE. 
          AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE REVIEWED AS WELL AS, UM, UH, PERHAPS LOOK AT A SHARED SERVICE AGREEMENT MM-HMM . 
          WHERE, UM, UM, WE CAN MOVE TO SHARE, UH, SOME OF THE, UM, ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, COSTS OF THE COURT, UH, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE VILLAGES WOULD KEEP ALL THE REVENUE THAT THEY'RE CURRENTLY KEEPING. 
          BECAUSE IN THE PAST WHEN, YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT UP CONSOLIDATING THE COURTS, I MEAN, THE VILLAGES ARE PAYING FOR TOWN COURT AND THEY'RE ALSO PAYING FOR A VILLAGE COURT. 
          UM, SO THEY'RE PAYING FOR TWO COURTS. 
          UM, SO THEY MIGHT AS WELL, IF THEY'RE PAYING FOR A COURT, TWO COURTS, THEY MIGHT AS WELL GET SOME VALUE AND BENEFITS FROM HAVING A COURT. 
          THEY DO THOUGH. 
          NO, BUT THEY'RE REALLY NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT BECAUSE THEY HAVE THEIR OWN COURT. 
          IT'S DUPLICATION. 
          SO IF WE WANNA MOVE GRADUALLY TOWARDS CONSOLIDATION OF THE COURT, I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE TOWARDS ITS CONSOLIDATION OF THE COURTS, YOU KNOW, GRADUALLY. 
          BUT THE ONLY, THE, THE STICKING POINT IS GONNA BE THE VILLAGE'S NEED AND DEPEND ON REVENUE. 
          SO IF WE COULD TAKE, IF, IF THEY CONTINUE TO BE ABLE TO KEEP THE REVENUE THAT THEY'RE GETTING FROM TICKETS, THEN I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, WE COULD GRADUALLY MOVE TOWARDS, UM, CONSOLIDATION. 
          SO ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD WAS, UM, WE MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT A SHARED SERVICE GRANT WITH THE VILLAGES. 
          IF THE VILLAGES ARE INTERESTED, ONLY THE VILLAGES ARE INTERESTED. 
          WELL, THAT CERTAINLY HAS SOME, SOME VALIDITY GOING FORWARD. 
          BUT WE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAVE, WE HAVE THE EXPENSE AND THE, THE NEED TO DO THIS CONSTRUCTION. 
          AND IN, IN YOUR CAPACITY, MR. SUPERVISOR, AS THE FINANCIAL PERSON, I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAVE DONE AN ANALYSIS OF WHAT THE COSTS ARE. 
          YOU MOVE YOUR MICROPHONE AWAY A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE YOU LITTLE BIT . 
          SURE. 
          I'M, I'M WONDERING, IS THAT BETTER? THAT'S BETTER. 
          OKAY. 
          I, I, UH, WELL, WHAT I WAS SAYING IS, IN YOUR CAPACITY AS, AS SUPERVISOR, PART OF WHICH IS THE FINANCIAL PERSON FOR THE TOWN, I WONDER IF YOU'VE DONE AN ANALYSIS TO DETERMINE WHAT THE COSTS ARE. 
          UM, VERY FIN NIGHTLY. 
          AND IF WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT MORE CLOSELY, THAT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. 
          BUT IF WE CAN HAVE SOME SORT OF BREAKDOWN THAT WOULD, RATHER THAN AN BROAD OVERVIEW, NOT BASED ON ANY FACTUAL INFORMATION, IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL FOR US ALL TO MAKE THE DECISION. 
          YEAH. 
          I, I THINK THIS IS PART OF THE, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT FOCUS, FOCUS, FOCUS. 
          AND HERE WE ARE 
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NOW ON A DIVERTED TOPIC, RIGHT. 
          AS TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN SHOULD THE YEAH. 
          VILLAGES DECIDE NOT TO HAVE THEIR COURTS AND THEY WANT TO USE OUR COURTS. 
          LET'S ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE PUT THAT REQUEST OUT MANY, MANY TIMES. 
          'CAUSE IT REALLY DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME THAT THE VILLAGES HAVE A SEPARATE COURT WHEN THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE TOWN COURT. 
          BUT RIGHT NOW WE NEED THIS STUDY THAT'S, THAT'S LET'S FOCUS ON THIS STUDY MM-HMM . 
          AND GET THAT GOING. 
          AND WE CAN HAVE THESE DISCUSSIONS. 
          AND WHILE THIS IS PROCEEDING, ABSOLUTELY, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GET BO BOGGED DOWN AND, AND RED HERRINGS AND YOU KNOW, WHAT ELSE, WHAT ARE THE TOPICS YOU WANT TO BRING UP AT A TIME WHERE WE HAVE A VERY FOCUSED, UM, PURPOSE IN HAVING THIS STUDY? AND THAT IS THE FEASIBILITY OF DOING ANY OF THESE THINGS. 
          RIGHT? BUT, BUT I BELIEVE THE CHIEF WON, JUST WANNA SAY TO US, THEY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SPACE IN, IN THERE. 
          WELL, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PUT INTO WHAT THE REQUEST IS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE HOLDING UP, ADOPTING THE PASSAGE OF THIS STUDY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I BELIEVE THE CHIEF HAD SOMETHING TO SAY TO HER. 
          I'M SORRY, YOU FINISHED COUNCILMAN? SHE? YES, I ARE. 
          THIS IS HOPEFULLY MY LAST COMMENT. 
          I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK THE BOARD, WE HAVE AN, WE HAVE AN ISSUE THAT WE ARE LOOKING FOR A MEANS TO ADDRESS. 
          I DON'T WANT THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE NEEDLESSLY DELAYED BY COMBINING IT WITH OTHER ISSUES. 
          YOU KNOW, THE COURT, THE VILLAGES, AGAIN, IF WE GET THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND PLAN ONE, TWO, AND THREE BEST OPTIONS ALL INCLUDE SOMEHOW MOVING TO COURT. 
          YOU KNOW, AT LEAST THEN WE HAVE AN EXPERT OPINION THAT'S SUGGESTING THAT AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, ADDING ALL THESE OTHER CONCERNS AND ISSUES INTO THE EQUATION IS SIMPLY JUST GOING TO DELAY WHAT WE NEED TO DO. 
          AND IT'S NOT NECESSARY THAT, FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T SUPPORT THE CHIEF I SUPPORT, I JUST AGREE BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT DELAYING, WE'VE HAD 10 YEARS OR MORE OF EXPERIENCES, YOU KNOW, TRYING EVERY SINGLE, YOU KNOW, OPTION. 
          AND IT HASN'T, NOTHING'S WORKED SO FAR. 
          SO ONE OF THE REASONS IT DIDN'T WORK WAS BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS. 
          BECAUSE PEOPLE FELT, FOR EXAMPLE, THE LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A PLAN, YOU KNOW, DAN, MY, YOU KNOW, WE ALL WORKED TOGETHER ON, ON, ON THE, ON, YOU KNOW, MOVING THE POLICE COURT, BUT WE DIDN'T NOTIFY THE VILLAGES AND THEY, YOU KNOW, GOT REALLY ANGRY AND THE WHOLE THING FIZZLED IN LIKE A WEEK. 
          UM, SO MY FEELING IS THAT IF WE COULD, WHEN WE ARE PURSUING THIS, IF WE COULD RECOGNIZE THAT IF THIS IS GONNA BE PAID, IF PART OF IT, THE ONLY, THE COURTHOUSE IS BEING PAID FOR IN THE, A BUDGET DONE THE POLICE HEADQUARTERS IN THE B BUDGET. 
          BUT IF, BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S TWO THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE. 
          YOU KNOW, ONE IS ADDRESS THE POLICE AND ONE IS ADDRESS THE COURT. 
          SO IF WE BASICALLY, UM, COULD FIGURE OUT WAYS WHERE THE VILLAGES FAIL, THEY'RE COMING OUT AHEAD AND WE'RE DOING SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE VILLAGES, GIVING THEM MORE SPACE, MORE ROOM, UM, PERHAPS LOOKING AT SHARED COSTS. 
          I COULD SAVE, WELL, WHY DON'T YOU DO THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS, MR. SUPERVISOR, AND THEN LET'S, LET'S TAKE IT FROM THERE. 
          SEE HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME SHARED EXPENSES. 
          THIS IS JUST, I'M JUST TRYING TO F MY JOB AND OUR JOB IS TO GET SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED. 
          SO IT'S NOT BASICALLY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING AND, AND WE'RE ALL, NOBODY HERE IS NOT TRYING TO GET SOMETHING ACCOMPLISHED. 
          SO I'M TRYING TO, SO THE WAY I LOOKED AT IT IS, I, I SAID WE HAVE MONEY THAT'S BEEN SAVED UP IN THE, IN THE, A BUDGET FOR THE COURT. 
          SO WE DON'T EVEN HAVE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO A GOOD CHUNK OF THIS WITHOUT EVEN, UH, GOING TO THE BOND MARKET JUST FOR THE COURT. 
          BUT THAT MONEY'S NOT GOING ANYWHERE. 
          LET'S DO THE STUDY FIRST. 
          LET'S THE STUDY THAT MONEY TO ME. 
          YEAH, WE DID. 
          NO, BUT TO ME THAT'S LIKE THE EASIEST APPROACH, HOW MUCH MONEY. 
          BUT HE SPENT IT DOWN. 
          SO WE, WE HAVE OVER 7 MILLION. 
          YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I KNOW IT TO YOU, IT'S THE EASIEST. 
          WANNA CORRECT SOMETHING MAY I COULD JUST, I'M SORRY. 
          SURE. 
          OH, I'M SORRY. 
          NO, UH, YOU KEEP SAYING, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING FAILED, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE DIDN'T CONTACT THE VILLAGE. 
          WHAT THE GROUP THAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE WORKING WITH PAUL ON, COMING UP WITH THE POLICE STATION RENOVATIONS ACTUALLY, AND YOU HAVE A LEGAL OPINION, DIFFERENT TOWN OF ATTORNEY THAT THE VILLAGES HAD TO PAY FOR OUR POLICE STATION EVEN THOUGH THEY HAD THEIR OWN POLICE STATION. 
          AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GOES TO JOE KO'S CREDIT WHEN HE, WE FIRST PUT HIM ON AS AN INTERIM IS WITHIN A WEEK, HE SAID, I HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES WITH THIS. 
          AND WITH TWO AND WITHIN TWO WEEKS, HE SAID, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THAT COULD BE CORRECT. 
          AND THAT CAUSED SUCH, UH, TENSION BETWEEN THE VILLAGES. 
          ILL WILL 
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SURE. 
          WE HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH THE VILLAGES UP TO THAT POINT. 
          YEAH. 
          AND THEN THAT WAS LIKE, OH, HERE'S THE TOWN GOING AGAIN. 
          EXACTLY. 
          AND WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE LEARNED ABOUT IT, UH, AFTER THE FACT, AT THE SAME TIME AT THE VILLAGE, THE TOWN BOARD LEARNED ABOUT IT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, SPEAKING WITH BOND COUNSEL AND OUR NEW TOWN ATTORNEY. 
          AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT ONE JUST FELL TOTALLY APART. 
          THERE WERE EVEN POSTCARDS THAT WERE MAILED OUT IN ADVANCE SAYING THERE WAS GONNA BE A REFERENDUM. 
          AND THAT REFERENDUM INDICATED THAT THE VILLAGES WOULD HAVE TO PAY FOR OUR POLICE STATION. 
          BUT THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY POLICE ACT CLEARLY SHOWED THAT THAT COULDN'T BE POSSIBLE. 
          AND IT WAS JOE DECO, OUR NEW TOWN ATTORNEY WHO POINTED THAT OUT. 
          AND BOND COUNSEL CONFIRMED IT, AND THIS WAS DEAD IN THE WATER. 
          SO IT'S NOT, HEY, WE DIDN'T REACH OUT TO THE VILLAGERS. 
          UH, WHAT WAS TOLD TO THE VILLAGES WERE JUST TOTALLY WRONG. 
          SO WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S WHAT THE VILLAGES AND EVERYBODY ELSE IN THE UNINCORPORATED UH, AREA EXPECTS OF US. 
          LET'S GET IT RIGHT. 
          AND SOME WOULD PUT AT THE END OF THAT FOR A CHANGE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO, BUT JUST, LET'S JUST GET THIS ONE RIGHT. 
          AND THE WAY TO DO THAT IS TO HAVE THIS FEASIBILITY STUDY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU, WAL. 
          ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. 
          DID NANCY WANT TO NANCY, IF YOU WANTED TO SAY ANYTHING, YOU COULD HAVE MY SEAT. 
          SHE, NO, SHE AGREED WITH YOU. 
          SHE, MOM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S MAYOR KABUL, WHO IS HERE LISTENING IN AND REPRESENTING THE VOC NO, REPRESENTING THE VILLAGE OF ALEY. 
          REPRESENTING THE VILLAGE OF MARLEY. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          I WILL REPORT BACK TO THE VOC THOUGH. 
          APPRECIATE YOUR MUCH, MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          VERY MAYOR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          YOU ASKED IF I, UH, REACHED OUT TO THE COURT. 
          UM, OH, THEY CALLED YOU BACK? I, I FOUND AN EMAIL THAT I SENT TO A NEW OH, OKAY. 
          ON DECEMBER. 
          SHE WAS, SHE WAS, SHE SAID SHE COULDN'T ATTEND. 
          I REMEMBER SHE RESPONDED SHE COULD NOT ATTEND. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S RIGHT. 
          BUT I ALSO INDICATE, ASKED HER TO, UH, ADVISE, UH, ALL THE JUDGES AND OFFERED, UH, TO HAVE, UM, PRESENTATION. 
          WAS THERE ANY FOLLOW UP AFTER THAT WHERE THE JUDGES NO, THERE WAS NO, NO FOLLOW. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT I JUST, IT WAS, I'LL ONLY ADD TO WHAT FRANCIS, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE TO COME UP. 
          YOU, WE CAN'T, YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH I'LL ONLY ADD WAIT, WAIT, WAIT. 
          YOU HAVE TO COME TO THE MIC. 
          SIT DOWN. 
          . 
          THANK YOU. 
          I WILL ONLY ADD TO WHAT, UH, COUNCILMAN SHE AND SAID WAS THAT, THAT NAME PLEASE. 
          NANCY KAIA. 
          MAYOR OF ORLEY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          IS THAT THE VILLAGES ACTUALLY DIDN'T LEARN ABOUT THE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT BEING PUT INTO THE, A BUDGET UNTIL WE ALL RECEIVED THE POSTCARDS IN OUR MAIL. 
          SO WE WERE NEVER ACTUALLY INFORMED OF IT BEFORE THE POSTCARDS WERE SENT OUT. 
          YEAH. 
          WE LEARNED AT THE SAME TIME THAT THEY WERE SENT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MAYOR. 
          OKAY. 
          I'M, I'M JUST GONNA ADD ONE OTHER POINT. 
          SORRY. 
          YOU CAN JUST ONE OTHER, SORRY. 
          COME ON. 
          DID YOU HAVE ME INSULTED YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SIT IN MY SEAT. 
          OH, WHICH ONE IS YOUR SEAT? IT'S NOT THERE. 
          THEY TOOK IT AWAY. 
          THEY TOOK IT AWAY. 
          UM, JUST ONE OTHER POINT. 
          UM, I, UH, OUR COURT IN, IN YOUR THOUGHT PROCESSES, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS STUDY. 
          I THINK THAT'S THE PROPER THING TO DO. 
          AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT ALL OPTIONS. 
          YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, YOUR COURT, AND, AND ALL OF THAT. 
          I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN THINKING ABOUT THIS, A LOT OF THE VILLAGE COURTS ARE OVERRUN. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE MM-HMM . 
          UH, WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO COME. 
          WE DON'T HAVE THE SPACE FOR OUR COURT TO HOLD COURT. 
          WE DON'T HAVE OFFICE SPACE. 
          I KNOW OTHER VILLAGES HAVE SIMILAR PROBLEMS. SO IN LONG TERM THINKING HERE, UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A POSSIBILITY FOR CONSOLIDATION IN THE LONG TERM. 
          OKAY. 
          AGREED. 
          UM, SO IF THAT COULD BE PART OF THE THOUGHT PROCESS, OF COURSE. 
          WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL PLANNING, THAT'S EXCELLENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          WE APPRECIATE THAT. 
          THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          THE ONLY THING IS WE WOULD HAVE THAT WE DON'T WANT TO OVERBUILD THE BUILDING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE, UH, WE BILL FOR SIX, SIX VILLAGES TO PUT BE PART OF THE COURTHOUSE. 
          IT'D BE NICE IF, UH, WHEN YOU MEET WITH THE BOC, WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF THAT HAPPENING? 'CAUSE OTHERWISE YOU'RE GONNA BE PAYING FOR A COURTHOUSE THAT'S OVERSIZED THAT YOU MAY NOT BE USING. 
          UM, I, I AGREE WITH THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE THINGS VERY LONG TERM. 
          UM, I, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, EACH VILLAGE HAS A ONE, IF NOT TWO CLERKS, WE HAVE ONE, IF NOT TWO COURT OFFICERS. 
          WE BOTH ALL HAVE TWO JUDGES. 
          UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, UH, IT, IT'S NOT, IT, IT, IT WILL TAKE TIME TO THINK ABOUT THIS. 
          I KNOW FOR THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY, IT DOES HAVE A REVENUE STREAM TO IT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP. 
          UM, 
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AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP, IT DOES HELP OUR BUDGET. 
          IT'S SOMETHING I THINK WE COULD THINK ABOUT GOING FORWARD ON HOW THE REVENUE IS DISTRIBUTED. 
          UM, I THINK THAT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT THERE'S ONLY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE THE COURTS CAN UTILIZE SPACE NOT SIMPLY TO HAVE THEM ALL CONSOLIDATED, BUT MAYBE THERE IS CONSOLIDATION IN THE CLERKS OFFICE OR OTHER AREAS. 
          I MEAN, I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE. 
          SURE. 
          WITHOUT, WITH LOTS OF THOUGHT PROCESS GOING INTO IT. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE THOUGHT ABOUT AND FOR THE LONG TERM. 
          AND AT A CERTAIN TIME WE CAN HAVE A WORK SESSION AND WE CAN INVITE ALL SIX OF THE MAYOR TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THE COURT. 
          WE, WE CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS MM-HMM . 
          ABOUT DIFFERENT IDEAS. 
          YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT WHAT CASES ARE ADJUDICATED IN THE VILLAGE COURTS, WHICH WOULD ALLEVIATE THE PROBLEM, AND WHAT MAYBE WE CAN TAKE ON. 
          AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF IT. 
          YOU CAN THINK, I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE THE, I'M FORGETTING THE LAW WHERE, WHERE THE AGE OF CONSIDERED FOR, FOR, UM, ADULTHOOD AND CHILD AND DICTATED A MORE SPACE IN THE VILLAGE COURTS, IN ALL THE COURTS MM-HMM. 
          FOR HOW THE CELLS ARE, UM, CONFIGURED. 
          YOU HAD TO SEPARATE CHILDREN FROM ADULTS, WHEREAS THE VILLAGES DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THAT KIND OF SPACE. 
          SO THERE'S A LOT, THERE ARE A LOT OF CONSIDERATIONS. 
          AND I CERTAINLY THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN PERHAPS DO SOMETHING NOT JUST FOR AGE. 
          I MEAN, WE DON'T EVEN HAVE THE ROOM FOR FEMALE. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE TO HAVE A MATRON COME AND ESCORT A FEMALE MM-HMM . 
          UM, PRISONERS. 
          SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL. 
          UM, THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY, ACTUALLY ABOUT SIX YEARS AGO, DID A STUDY, UM, WHEN WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, WHEN OUR JUSTICE RESIGNED. 
          'CAUSE THAT IS THE TIMEFRAME WHEN YOU CAN THINK ABOUT CONSOLIDATING THE COURT WITH THE TOWN COURT. 
          AND WE DID A STUDY. 
          UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF FACTORS THAT WENT INTO OUR DECISION NOT TO CONSOLIDATE MM-HMM . 
          UM, WITH THE TOWN COURT AT THAT TIME. 
          BUT I DO THINK THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY NEED TO THINK ABOUT GOING FORWARD. 
          ONE OF THE THOUGHTS IS, UH, WELL LET'S ASSUME, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DOING THE STUDY. 
          UM, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WHY CAN'T WE EXPLORE A SHARED, UM, SERVICE, UH, GRANT APPLICATION TO DISCUSS, UM, UM, WITH THE VILLAGES, UM, UH, POSSIBLE. 
          WELL, WE HAVE TO ESTABLISH WHAT THAT IS. 
          I THINK THAT, I THINK YOU, I THINK YOUR, I'M GONNA TELL YOU WHAT I THINK YOUR FIRST STEP SHOULD BE. 
          YOUR FIRST STEPS. 
          YOU HAVE TO GET THIS CONSULTANT ON BOARD TO STUDY THE NEEDS OF YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOUR COURT. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I THINK THE NEXT STEP THERE IS YOU FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND AS PART OF THAT, WITH A THOUGHT IN MIND THAT MAYBE SOMEDAY THE COURTS COULD BE CONSOLIDATED, THEN YOU COME TO THE VILLAGES AND YOU SAY, WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY OF DOING THIS? AND HAVE A STUDY THEN TO DISCUSS THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE COURT SYSTEM. 
          BUT I THINK YOUR FIRST STEP HERE, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE TO DO A LOT OF WORK ON YOUR POLICE STATION. 
          , THANK YOU SO MUCH, MAYOR. 
          I'VE HAD, AND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS IN THE PAST REGARDING CONSOLIDATION. 
          FRANKLY, I DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND WHY THE VILLAGES WEREN'T WHAT THAT EXTRA COST WHEN, SINCE YOU'RE ALREADY PAYING FOR THE TOWN COURT, IF WE COULD ACCOMMODATE THE SPACE, UH, I THINK IT MAKES AN AWFUL LOT OF SENSE SINCE THE REVENUE FOR THE INCORPORATED COMES TO THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, THEN REVENUE FROM TICKETS IN THE VILLAGES. 
          I DON'T SEE WHY THEY DON'T GO BACK TO THE VILLAGES. 
          I, I DON'T THINK THAT, I, I THINK COUNCILMAN SHEM, OUR, OUR COURT ACTUALLY PAYS FOR ITSELF AND MORE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WE'RE, IT'S NOT, WE'RE WE'RE, IT'S A REVENUE STREAM. 
          IT IS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          HONESTLY, WE GET A LOT OF TICKETS OFF THE THROWAWAY. 
          UM, BUT I AGREE. 
          I THINK ONE OF THE STICKING POINTS OF CONSOLIDATION HERE IS THE REVENUE STREAM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AND, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS A WAY, AND THIS IS SORT OF TO PAUL'S POINT, I'M SORRY, SUPERVISOR FINE'S POINT IS TO STUDY HOW THE REVENUE STREAM COULD WORK IN A CONSOLIDATED BASIS. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND DIFFERENT VILLAGES ARE GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES. 
          SO OURS IS GONNA HAVE MAYBE A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE FROM HASTINGS OR DOS FER, WHATEVER, AND DIFFERENT NEEDS. 
          AND WE CAN TWEAK IT ACCORDINGLY. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND ESTABLISHING WHAT THE AND MORE IS FOR THE VILLAGES AND HOW WE CAN NEGOTIATE THAT SO THAT YOU STILL HAVE REVENUE. 
          RIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT ALL, I MEAN, ALSO GOING DOWN TO EVEN THE, YOU KNOW, THE CLERKS, THERE'S SIX VILLAGES. 
          THAT MEANS THERE'S 12 CLERKS AT LEAST. 
          MM-HMM . 
          12 
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OFFICERS, AT LEAST YOU MIGHT, YOU DON'T NEED THAT ALL IN ONE LOCATION. 
          AND THAT'S, THAT'S BE LOOKED AT STUDY. 
          THE THING THAT I POSSIBLY, UH, MAY DIFFER WITH YOU ON IS I SORT OF FEEL THAT THERE'S A, IF I WOULD BE LIKE BETTING, I'D SAY WE'LL PROBABLY LAND UP MOVING THE COURT OUT OF THE PRESENT, YOU KNOW, CAMPUS. 
          THAT'S MY PREDICTION. 
          UM, UH, BUT SO THE THING IS CLEARLY SOMETHING YOU, HE'S A LITTLE FIXATED ON THAT I FEEL THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN. 
          SO THE THING IS, SINCE I'M PRETTY OPTIMISTIC THAT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, I SORT OF FAILED. 
          WHY WAIT, UM, FOR A SHARED SERVICE GRANT APPLICATION? BECAUSE IF WE, WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO, BY THE END OF THIS YEAR, UM, MAKE, MAKE REAL, DO YOU KNOW WHAT? WE MOVED THIS BUILDING. 
          WE GOT THIS BUILDING WITHIN SIX MONTHS. 
          WE DID EVERYTHING WITH THE TOWN HALL. 
          WITHIN SIX MONTHS WE MOVED FROM THE OTHER SIDE HERE. 
          SO I SORT OF FEEL IF WE START LOOKING AT, IF WE BASICALLY ARE TO ALL AGREE THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE THE COURTHOUSE OUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IN EIGHT MONTHS, UM, AND THEN WE START WITH A SHARED SERVICE, THEN WE'RE LOSING ANOTHER YEAR. 
          SO I FEEL THAT IF WE BASICALLY COULD START WORKING TOGETHER RIGHT NOW AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IS THERE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT THE VILLAGE IS AND THE TOWN, BUT, BUT WHAT IF YOUR REPORT COMES BACK AND SAYS, YOU'RE KEEPING THE COURT WHERE IT IS, AND THERE'S NO EXTRA ROOM. 
          THERE IS JUST NO EXTRA ROOM TO DO THIS. 
          WE, WE MET, WE MET WITH THESE FIRMS, AND THE CONSENSUS WAS THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO MOVE ANYWAY OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          I NOT WAIT. 
          THAT'S UP. 
          ALL. 
          THANK, THANK MUCH. 
          APPRECIATE, MAYOR. 
          APPRECIATE IT. 
          APPRECIATE YOU. 
          GOOD TO SEE YOU. 
          OKAY, GOOD. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          THAT'S GOOD. 
          WELL, OKAY. 
          NEXT ON THE LIST, UM, THE PROPOSED OPERATIONS DIRECTIVE OF TITLES AND DUTIES. 
          LAST WEEK GINA ASKED ME TO, UH, WRITE UP A, A DRAFT. 
          AND I SPENT TIME, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON IT. 
          AND, UM, I SORT OF THOUGHT THAT, UM, INSTEAD OF CALLING IT DIRECT, AND FRANCIS SENT AN EMAIL, UM, UH, LAST WEEK SAYING, YOU KNOW, DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS ISN'T REALLY THE RIGHT TITLE. 
          IT SHOULD REALLY BE ADMINISTRATOR. 
          AND THEN I WAS GIVING IT SOME THOUGHT. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN I THOUGHT THAT THE REAL TITLE SHOULD BE, UH, DEPUTY SUPERVISOR OF OPERATIONS, UH, FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          AND, UM, THE REASON I THOUGHT THAT IT SHOULD BE DEPUTY SUPERVISOR. 
          UM, IS EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT HEAD IN THE TOWN BESIDES ME? NO, WE ARE YOUR SUPERVISOR. 
          I SAW THAT EMAIL, BUT WE ARE YOUR DEPUTY SUPERVISOR. 
          NO, NO, I'M SAYING ABOUT THAT. 
          NO, I'M SAYING FOR, I, I AM MAKING A RECOMMENDATION THAT, YOU KNOW, THE DEPUTY SUPERVISOR IS A POSITION THAT COULD BASICALLY, IT'S UP TO THE SUPERVISOR. 
          I COULD CHANGE THAT ANYTIME I WANT BECAUSE, AND IT'S, IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THE TOWN. 
          OH, I THOUGHT IT WAS IN THE TOWN CALLED. 
          NO, IT'S NOT IN THE TOWN. 
          NO. 
          IT'S THE, THE STATE LAWYERS AT THE TOWN SUPERVISOR MAKES THE APPOINTMENT. 
          SO IN OTHER CO IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, UH, YOU HAVE DEPUTY SUPERVISORS WHO ARE CITIZENS, UM, AND YOU KNOW, SOME PEOPLE, UH, SOME OFFICIALS HAVE ONE DEPUTY SUPERVISOR. 
          I'VE, OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, ROTATE, WHICH IS FINE, BUT THE, THE, AND WHEN I SPOKE TO MILAGROS, I'M A DEPUTY. 
          YEAH, YOU'RE THE RIGHT. 
          IT'S, YOU'RE DOING A GREAT JOB. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO IT HAS NOTHING. 
          UM, SO, AND BY TIME, UH, WE FINALIZE THIS, YOUR TERM WILL BE OVER . 
          HOPEFULLY NOT. 
          YEAH, NO, THE THREE MONTHS WILL BE OVER. 
          UM, UM, BUT YOU KNOW, WHAT I WAS SORT OF THINKING IS THAT THE STATE LAW, IF, IF WE MADE IT A DEPUTY SUPERVISOR POSITION, THE STATE LAW, THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH CIVIL SERVICE BECAUSE BASICALLY THE POSITION IS ALREADY, YOU KNOW, EXISTENT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, SO WE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE CIVIL SERVICE EXAMS. UM, UM, IT'S ALREADY AN AUTHORIZED, UH, YOU KNOW, POSITION. 
          UM, AND, UM, I FEEL THAT INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, I THINK WHEN I FIRST BROUGHT THIS UP, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO PEOPLE SAID, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU REALLY GIVING, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE YOU BASICALLY GONNA JUST TURN OVER THE JOB TO SOMEBODY ELSE? THE THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE TOWN SUPERVISOR DOING DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS, SO WHY ARE YOU GONNA DELEGATE IT TO SOMEBODY ELSE? SO I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF I HAD A DEPUTY WHO WOULD ASSIST ME AND DOING MY RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT THEY WOULD STILL REPORT, I WOULD SUPERVISE THE POSITION, BUT THEY WOULD REPORT TO ALL THE MEMBERS OF, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN BOARD AS WELL. 
          THEN WE COULD, UM, I THINK MAKE, I THINK IT COULD BE A VERY, UM, SUCCESSFUL, YOU KNOW, POSITION. 
          I, I CAME UP WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          I COULD READ IT, OR IF YOU WANT. 
          NO, I THINK WE IN TIME, IF YOU LOOKED AT IT TIME, WE'VE ALREADY READ IT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU, IF, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY, I JUST SENT IT TO EVERYBODY TODAY BECAUSE I FINISHED IT TODAY. 
          IS IT TODAY? YEAH, I'M LOOKING FOR IT. 
          SORRY. 
          YOU SENT IT THIS AFTERNOON. 
          I SENT IT. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, PROBABLY AROUND FOUR BECAUSE I, IT TOOK ME A WHILE TO FINISH IT, BUT I'M, MAYBE IT'D BE HELPFUL IF YOU READ IT. 
          OH, YOU WOULD? OKAY. 
          SO 
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I SAID THESE ARE THE, THE DEPUTY SUPERVISOR OF OPERATIONS FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. 
          I, YOU'RE GONNA READ THE WHOLE THING. 
          I THOUGHT THAT, JUST ASK ME, NANCY. 
          I MEAN, WOULD ACT AS THE OPERATIONS MANAGER IN THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE, ASSUMING RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY MANAGEMENT AND COORDINATION OF VARIOUS TOWN OPERATIONS, INCLUDING OVERSEEING DEPARTMENT FUNCTIONS, MANAGING PROJECTS, UM, ALL WHILE ADHERING TO TOWN POLICIES AND REGULATIONS. 
          ESSENTIALLY SERVING AS A KEY ADMINISTRATIVE LEADER IN THE TOWN'S OPERATIONAL ACTIVITIES. 
          KEY RESPONSIBILITIES, OPERATIONAL OVERSIGHT, MONITOR AND COORDINATE THE OPERATION OF DIFFERENT TOWN DEPARTMENTS, ENSURING EFFICIENT SERVICE, DELIVERY AND COMPLIANCE WITH REGULATIONS. 
          PROJECT MANAGEMENT, LEAD AND OVERSEE MAJOR TOWN PROJECTS, INCLUDING PROJECT PLANNING, IMPLEMENTATION AND PROGRESS REPORTING, MEETING REPRESENTATION, ATTENDANT PARTICIPATE IN TOWN BOARD MEETINGS, CRISIS MANAGEMENT, ASSISTANT COORDINATING RESPONSE TO EMERGENCIES OR CRITICAL, UH, SITUATIONS WITHIN THE TOWN LIAISON ROLE. 
          ACT AS LIAISON BETWEEN THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE, OTHER TOWN DEPARTMENTS AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS. 
          REPORT. 
          UH, GENERATION PREPARE REGULAR REPORTS ON OPERATIONAL PERFORMANCE, INCLUDING KEY METRICS AND ANALYSIS FOR THE SUPERVISOR AND TOWN BOARD. 
          REQUIRED SKILLS AND OP AND QUALIFICATION, STRONG ADMINISTRATIVE SKILLS, UH, PROVEN EXPERIENCE IN MANAGING COMPLEX PROJECTS, BUDGETS AND ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES, LEADERSHIP ABILITIES, ABILITY TO EFFECTIVELY LEAD AND MOTIVATE TEAMS, DELEGATE TASKS AND FOSTER COLLABORATION, COMMUNICATION SKILLS. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          WRITTEN AND VERBAL COMMUNICATION SKILLS TO INTERACT WITH DIVERSE STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THE PUBLIC STAFF AND ELECTED OFFICIALS. 
          KNOWLEDGE OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT, UNDERSTANDING OF LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROCEDURES, LAWS AND REGULATIONS, INCLUDING TOWN ORDINANCES AND BUDGET, PRACTICING AND ANALYTICAL SKILLS, ABILITY TO ANALYZE DATA, IDENTIFY TRENDS, MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS BASED ON INFORMATION, IMPORTANT CONSIDERATIONS. 
          APPOINTED POSITION, THE ROLE IS TYPICALLY APPOINTED BY THE TOWN SUPERVISOR AND MAY REQUIRE CONFIRMATION BY THE TOWN BOARD IF, IF YOU WOULD, UH, LIKE THAT. 
          A PUBLIC INTERACTION, THE DEPUTY SUPERVISOR MAY BE REQUIRED TO INTERACT WITH THE PUBLIC AND ADDRESSING INQUIRIES AND CONCERNS, VARIOUS RESPONSIBILITIES. 
          UH, SPECI SPECIFIC DUTIES MAY VARY, BUT CAN INCLUDE THOUGH NOT BE LIMITED TO SPECIFIC EXAMPLES LIKE THE FOLLOWING. 
          OVERSEE CAPITAL, UH, BUDGET FUNDINGS ENSURE THAT THE CAPITAL BUDGETS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED ARE IMPLEMENTED WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS PROVIDING, UM, A TIMELINE. 
          HELP OVERSEE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT SUCCESSES TO ENSURE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, PERFORM AS PLANNED ASSISTED ASSIST MANAGING THE COURTHOUSE, POLICE HEADQUARTER, MOVE OR RENOVATION, EVALUATE ALL PROGRAMS, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW MUCH IS SPENT ON EACH PROGRAM. 
          PARKS AND RECREATION. 
          AND TDYC. 
          SEE HOW MANY ATTENDEES PER PROGRAM EXAMINE POSSIBLE REDUNDANCIES. 
          INVESTIGATIVE TOWN SHOULD CONSOLIDATE THE AQUATICS PROGRAM. 
          INDOOR AND OUTDOOR POOL BEING UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF ONE DEPARTMENT, NOT TWO. 
          UM, OVERSEE GRANT APPLICATIONS TO ENSURE WE AREN'T MISSING FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES. 
          UM, PREPARE FOR POSSIBLE BUDGET CUTS OF TOWN CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE, INVESTIGATE HOW TO DECREASE THE SIZE OF THE WORKFORCE WITH THE LEAST AMOUNT OF PAIN, WITH A CONSIDERATION OF OUTSOURCING SOME ROLES. 
          PLAN NOW TO ENSURE THE SMOOTHEST POSSIBLE TRANSITION. 
          SHOULD EDGEMONT INCORPORATE, UH, DETERMINE ACTUAL QUEST FOR, FOR PROVIDING SERVICES. 
          SHOULD EDGEMONT SECEDE OR NEGO NEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT? I ALSO, AND I JUST THOUGHT OF THIS ON, IF REGENER, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF REVENUE, UH, BUILDING PERMIT FEES FROM REGENERON THAT'S GONNA DRY UP. 
          SO WE'RE NOT GONNA BE GETTING 5, 6, 10, $15 MILLION A YEAR, UH, ONCE IT DRIES UP. 
          SO I'D LIKE SOME HELP AND FOCUS ON A PLAN OF ACTION SO WE COULD HAVE A SMOOTH, UH, TRANSITION. 
          UM, ONCE WE LOSE THESE MAJOR SOURCES OF, UM, OUTSIDE REVENUE, INVESTIGATE EXPENSE OF DOING LABOR NEGOTIATIONS IN HOUSE, RATHER THAN HIRING AN OUTSIDE COUNSEL, UM, WITH AN OUTSIDE LAW FIRM RECENTLY HIRED TO COLLECT BACK TAXES AND $25 MILLION IN UNCOLLECTED TAXES, ENSURE THAT THE PROCESS IS GIVEN HIGH PRIORITY CONDUCT, INDEPENDENT REVIEW OF REPLACEMENT POLICY FOR FLEET OF VEHICLES AND TRUCKS FOR RELEVANT DEPARTMENTS. 
          ARE WE REPLACING VEHICLES FASTER THAN WE NEED TO? UM, OR ALL OUR VEHICLES NEEDED CREATE DATABASE OF DEPARTMENT, UH, FUNCTIONALITY FROM, UH, WHICH TO BETTER ANALYZE GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCIES AND REDUNDANCIES AND ASSESS VACANCIES IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. 
          AND, AND IF ALL PO POSITIONS NEED TO BE FILLED, UH, WHAT IS A TYPICAL RATE OF INSPECTIONS VERSUS THOSE REQUIRED BY REGENERON THAT WILL DROP OFF. 
          SO THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THOUGHTS THAT, 
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THAT I HAD. 
          OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS MORE THAN ONE PROTECTIVE. 
          DID YOU DEVELOP THE PLAN FOR THEN WHAT THE SUPERVISOR RESPONSIBILITIES ARE? ACTUALLY, BEFORE YOU ASK THAT QUESTION, AS THE DEPUTY, CURRENT DEPUTY, IF YOU DON'T MIND IF I GO FIRST. 
          I ASKED THE QUESTION. 
          GO AHEAD. 
          OKAY. 
          SO TYPICALLY IN MUNICIPAL GOVERNMENTS, THERE ARE DIFFERENT MODELS. 
          ONE MODEL IS THAT YOU HAVE A FULL-TIME FULL SALARIED EXECUTIVE, WHICH IS A SUPERVISOR OR A MAYOR OR COUNTY EXECUTIVE, WHATEVER. 
          UM, AND THAT PERSON'S FULL-TIME DOES ALL THAT WORK AND IS PAID TO DO THAT. 
          THE OTHER MODEL, WHICH IS MOST, WHICH IS WHAT THE VILLAGES HAVE, IS THAT YOU HAVE BASICALLY A VOLUNTARY MAYOR, UH, AND A VILLAGE ADMINISTRATOR, MANAGER. 
          ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU DESCRIBED ARE THE DUTIES THAT HAVE TO BE ACCOMPLISHED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. 
          CORRECT. 
          SO ARE YOU SAYING IN, IN, IN, UM, BRINGING IN SOMEONE TO DO THE, THE VERY LONG LIST OF RESPONSIBILITIES THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT? SO THEN WHAT, HOW DO YOU SEPARATE YOUR ROLE AS SUPERVISOR? WOULD YOU BE THEN CONSOLIDATING YOUR ROLE TO RADIO SHOWS AND TALKING TO CONSTITUENTS AND WHATEVER? WOULD YOU BE REDUCING YOUR SALARY? UM, HOW WOULD THIS WORK EXACTLY? I ACTUALLY THINK IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, MORE WORK FOR THE TOWN SUPERVISOR BECAUSE THEY, RATHER THAN LESS WORK. 
          BECAUSE WHAT I WOULD BE DOING IS, UH, BENEFITING FROM PEOPLE WHO, UM, HAVE THE EXPERTISE, UM, IN DEALING WITH, UM, SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, WHO, WHO I COULD BENEFIT FROM THEIR ADDITIONAL, UM, FINANCIAL EXPERTISE. 
          WE, I DON'T, SO WE HAVE A CONTROLLER FOR THAT. 
          BUT YOU KNOW, THE, THE, THE THING IS, I BELIEVE THAT FIRST OF ALL, EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT HAD, BUT MYSELF HAS A DEPUTY, THE TOWN CLERK, YOU'RE THE DEPUTY. 
          UM, THE, UH, I'M YOUR DEPUTY, THE, THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS HAS A DEPUTY DEPUTY, UM, UH, EVERY SINGLE, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR HAS A DEPUTY. 
          EVERY D THE CONTROLLER HAS A DEPUTY, EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD HAS A DEPUTY. 
          AND IF WE, YOU HAVE DEPARTMENTS WORKING FOR YOU, NOT PERSON. 
          YEAH. 
          YOU HAVE DEPARTMENTS AND, AND WE HAVE THE SUPERVISORY RESPONSIBILITY. 
          YOU HAVE THE SUPERVISORY AND CONTROL OVER THE BUDGET. 
          AND, BUT YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE PEELING IN YOUR DESCRIPTION, PEELING ALL THE RESPONSIBILITIES WITHIN THE DEFINITION OF A SUPERVISOR AWAY. 
          SO I, AGAIN, I POSE MY QUESTION AND I'M ALSO REITERATING, UH, COUNCILWOMAN HABER'S QUESTION, WHAT THEN WILL THE SUPERVISOR DO? AND HOW WOULD IT CREATE MORE WORK WHEN THEY, YOU'RE PEELING OFF YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES TO A DEPUTY BECAUSE, SO, SO PLEASE DEFINE THAT AND LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. 
          LET ME, LEMME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 
          IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET WE'VE HAD CAPITAL BUDGETS THAT HAVE BEEN, UM, APPROVED OVER THE YEARS AND FIRST OF, AND UM, AND THE FUNDING IN THE CAPITAL BUDGETS HAS NEVER BEEN SPENT. 
          SO, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB OF HAVING A TIMELINE AND YOU KNOW, BASICALLY SAYING WHEN WE APPROVE A CAPITAL BUDGET, THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED EXACTLY. 
          THE DEPARTMENT DOING. 
          AND KIMBERLY HAS BEEN WORKING ALONGSIDE OF THAT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. 
          NO, BUT I'M SAYING OVER THE, OVER THE YEARS, THAT'S THE WE HAVE, BUT WE, BUT REMEMBER PAUL, SO LISTEN, SORRY. 
          SO ALL DUE RESPECT, THIS IS A NEW DAY, RIGHT? YOU HAVE A NEW COMPTROLLER, YOU HAVE A NEW POLICE CHIEF, YOU HAVE NEW LEADERSHIP MM-HMM . 
          SO WHY DON'T YOU SEE HOW THIS WORKS OUT? AND YOU, BEFORE YOU START PEELING OFF, NO, BECAUSE THIS IS A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHEN IT COMES FINANCIALLY, KIMBERLY BROUGHT THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION, OUR NEW COMPTROLLER. 
          SO ALLOW HER TO DO HER ROLE. 
          WELL I'VE SPOKEN TO HER JUST AS, JUST AS, JUST AS, AS, UH, PUBLIC WORKS, JUST AS THE POLICE CHIEF, JUST AS BUILDINGS AND, AND ET CETERA. 
          SO LET THEM DO THEIR WORK. 
          YEAH, BUT LET ME SAY, LEMME SAY ONE THING AND WE HAVE, FIRST OF ALL, CAN I TAKE THE MOMENT JUST TO COMPLIMENT OUR CONTROLLER, RIGHT? WHO IS DOING A LONG TERM PLAN FOR US, WHICH IS WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, BUT HADN'T BEEN DONE BY HER, HER PREDECESSOR OR THE SUPERVISOR. 
          SO THAT LONG-TERM PLAN IS GOING TO GIVE US THAT ROADMAP AND WE CAN BETTER MANAGE, SHE'S CONSOLIDATED THE BUDGETS, SHE'S LOOKING AT THINGS MORE HOLISTICALLY SO THAT WE'RE NOT IN THE SAME SITUATION. 
          IT'S A, IT'S A DIFFERENT CONTROLLER. 
          IT'S A NEW DAY. 
          BUT LEMME SAY SOMETHING. 
          I SPOKE TO, UH, THE CONTROLLER AND SHE SAID THAT SHE THOUGHT THIS WAS A, A GOOD IDEA. 
          THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. 
          WELL, YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD LET HER NO, BUT LEMME SAY I SPOKE TO HER. 
          MY FEELING IS THAT, UM, TWO THINGS. 
          ONE IS I FEEL THE TOWN IS WELL RUN. 
          OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE AAA BOND RATING, WHICH MOST COMMUNITIES DON'T HAVE. 
          UH, WE'VE KEPT THE TAXES, UH, YOU KNOW, DOWN, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER COMMUNITIES, OUR TAX RATE. 
          AND YOU THINK THAT WITHOUT ATOMIC ADMINISTRATOR? NO, I'M SAYING, SO THE SERVICES ARE EXCEPTIONAL. 
          THE DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, I GET 
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VIRTUALLY NO VERY FEW COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE SERVICES. 
          UH, EVEN THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE ME SAY THEY LIKE THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, THEY LIKE, THEY LIKE THE SERVICES. 
          BUT I'M SAYING PEOPLE BASICALLY ARE, ARE VERY, VERY PLEASED WITH THEN WHY DO WE NEED THE DEPUTY? BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT, I BASICALLY FEEL THAT WE COULD ANY GO NO GOVERNMENT IS PERFECT. 
          AND I BASICALLY BELIEVE THAT IF WE CREATED THIS POSITION, I FEEL THAT WE COULD BE RUNNING BETTER AND MORE EFFICIENTLY. 
          NOW THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IF THE BOARD SAYS NO, THE TOWN WILL STILL MAINTAIN OUR AAA BOND RATING. 
          WE'LL STILL HAVE EXCELLENT SERVICES, WE'LL STILL BE WELL RUN. 
          BUT I KNOW IN MY HEART THAT WE COULD DO BETTER. 
          AND I FEEL THAT IF I GOT THE RIGHT PERSON IN THIS POSITION, THAT WE COULD BE RUNNING A MORE EFFICIENT, UH, TOWN THAT WILL MAKE, UM, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WILL GIVE PEOPLE MORE VALUE FOR, FOR, FOR THEIR TAXES AND WILL ENABLE US TO AVOID, UM, HAVING MISTAKES. 
          NO GOVERNMENT'S GONNA BE PERFECT. 
          IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. 
          RIGHT? AGREED. 
          HAVE YOU ALREADY IDENTIFIED THAT PERSON? NO, I HAVEN'T. 
          I HAVEN'T. 
          BUT THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK I SAID I WANTED TO, WANTED THE BOARD TO UM, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION AND IF YOU BASICALLY, UM, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY NOT LIKE THE DESCRIPTION I HAVE, AND THEN WE COULD TWEAK IT AND WORK TOGETHER COMING UP WITH A JOB DESCRIPTION THAT WE COULD ALL LIVE WITH AND THEN WE COULD DO AN RFP BECAUSE I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THE PERSON WOULD BE. 
          OKAY. 
          SO HERE'S ANOTHER THING I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION. 
          I, 'CAUSE I'VE SPOKEN ACTUALLY WITH OTHER, AT, AT OUR WMO MEETINGS, I'VE SPOKEN WITH OTHER SUPERVISORS AND A LOT OF THE OTHER SUPERVISORS, UM, WHO ARE FULL-TIME ARE AT THEIR FULL-TIME JOBS FROM NINE TO FIVE. 
          THEY ARE HERE, THEY'RE AT THEIR TOWN HALLS. 
          UM, I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF ANCILLARY ACTIVITIES THAT YOU LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT TAKES YOU AWAY FROM THEM. 
          AND I'M JUST GONNA BE HONEST, 'CAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, TAKES YOU AWAY FROM THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES AND YOU LIKE TO DO OTHER THINGS. 
          SO I DON'T SEE HOW YOU CAN'T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT TWO. 
          I MEAN, LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO ONLY FOCUS ON CERTAIN THINGS AND, AND WE LOOK AT THE ROLE OF THE SUPERVISOR WITHIN OUR OWN TOWN AND WE LOOK AT THE ROLE OF THIS DE IF WHATEVER TITLE THIS PERSON WOULD HAVE AND HOW THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE HIERARCHY OF HOW OUR TOWN MANAGEMENT HAS DONE, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD MAYBE LOOK AT. 
          BUT JUST TO SAY, WE'RE GONNA BRING ON SOMEONE ELSE FOR A VERY NICE SALARY AND EXPECT THEM TO DO ALL THESE THINGS. 
          AND THEN WE'RE NOT GONNA REALLY LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, OUR TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          WE DO A LOT OF WORK ALSO THAT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THEY DON'T HAVE TO DO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO, I MEAN, I HAVE TO SAY, PROBABLY MORE THAN ANYONE, UH, COUNCILMAN SHEEN HAS DONE A LOT OF, A LOT OF WORK. 
          UH, WE HAVE FULL-TIME JOBS. 
          UM, SO I THINK MANAGEMENT HELP IS IMPORTANT, BUT I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE WHOLE, WHOLE PICTURE OF WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN, IT'S NOT ONLY THE DAY BING TOWN SUPER SUPERVISOR, IT'S NOT ONLY THE DAY-TO-DAY, UH, RUNNING OF SERVICES. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE BASICALLY IT'S A QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, THAT WE, WE HAVE TO ADDRESS. 
          AND WHEN YOU SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING ON OTHER THINGS. 
          SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, WE SET UP A TECH ANGELS PROGRAM WHERE WE HAVE THE STUDENTS WHO ARE DOING, UH, PROVIDING, UH, SENIORS WITH FREE TECH ADVICE. 
          NOW, THAT'S SOMETHING I DON'T HAVE TO GET INVOLVED IN, BUT I WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN BECAUSE I KNOW IT'S HELPING. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          THE SENIORS, IT'S NOT REALLY, NOW YOU COULD SAY, OH, THIS IS NOT REALLY TOWN SUPERVISOR. 
          I FEEL IT IS. 
          IF I'M, IF BASICALLY, UH, WE HAVE A GREENBERG STUDENT NETWORK AND I'M BASICALLY, UM, MOTIVATING AND INSPIRING YOUNG PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED DISPUTE. 
          BUT I'M TALKING, SO MAYBE AWAY FROM THAT, THEN MAYBE WE NEED TO REORGANIZE, LIKE I SAID, WHAT YOU DO AND WHAT THIS OTHER PERSON WOULD DO. 
          BUT I, I, I FEEL THAT EVERYTHING THAT I OUTLINED OVER HERE, I WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN. 
          SO I'M, I'M NOT, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THE ADMINISTRATIVE, UM, RESPONSIBILITIES BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. 
          AND A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT I DO AND OUTSIDE, I'M BASICALLY DOING, UH, YOU KNOW, AT 11 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT OR 12 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT OR ON WEEKENDS, BECAUSE I, I'M ALWAYS EMAILING AND DURING THE DAY, NO, I'M ALWAYS, I'M DOING IT DURING THE DAY. 
          I'M DOING IT DURING THE NIGHT. 
          I'M DURING, DURING WEEKENDS. 
          I'M DOING IT WHEN I'M ON VACATION. 
          THAT'S, SO I, I FEEL I'M ABLE TO DO, UH, COUNCILMAN SHI DO THAT MANY THINGS AT THE SAME TIME WORK. 
          I, UH, OKAY. 
          WELL, CAN I, CAN I JUST SAY THOUGH, I GUESS IN THAT LIST THAT YOU HAVE, WHAT I FOUND THE MOST TROUBLING IS THAT YOU WANTED THIS DEPUTY TO BE BASICALLY A LIAISON TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR YOU. 
          UH, EACH OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WORK VERY DIRECTLY, HANDS ON IN MANY CASES WITH THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS. 
          UH, BUT YOU WANT TO PUT A GO BETWEEN, BETWEEN YOU AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, YOU KNOW, AND ALL THESE OTHER THINGS ARE, ARE, ARE NICE, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT, 
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YOU KNOW, REPAIRING EQUIPMENT AND STUFF LIKE THAT FOR, FOR PEOPLE. 
          BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU FEEL LIKE YOU CAN'T DIRECTLY TALK TO DEPARTMENT HEADS AND YOU NEED A GO BETWEEN A DEPUTY SUPERVISOR TO DO THAT FOR YOU, UM, I FIND THAT PROBLEMATIC. 
          WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU COULD TAKE IT OUT. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU, GINA ASKED ME TO COME UP WITH A DRAFT. 
          NO G LEMME SAY GINA, DON'T, GINA ASKED ME LAST WEEK TO COME UP WITH A DRAFT, UM, UM, UH, DRAFT OF THE POSITION. 
          SO I BASICALLY, YOUR PROPOSAL, SO I BASICALLY SPENT SOME TIME WORKING ON THE DRAFT, AND I ALSO SAID THAT THIS IS A DRAFT. 
          IF THE BOARD, I DON'T WANT MY DRAFT TO BE WHAT THE BOARD HAS TO GO WITH. 
          SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND TWEAK IT, THIS IS THE FIRST DRAFT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THE BOARD SHOULD TWEAK IT. 
          WE CAN HAVE A MEETING NEXT WEEK IF YOU WANNA MAKE CHANGES AND SAY, THIS IS WHY WE COULD LIVE WITH, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE TITLE, IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE THE TITLE, THAT'S FINE. 
          I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT IT COULD BE HELPFUL TO ALL OF US. 
          BECAUSE ONE OF THE THINGS IN TOWN LAW, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IN CITIES LIKE SAY WHITE PLAINS OR YONKERS, THE MAYOR COULD HIRE, THEY COULD FIRE, THEY COULD VETO, YOU KNOW, UH, THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE HAS THE SAME THING. 
          TOWN SUPERVISOR UNDER TOWN LAW IS BASICALLY ONE OF FIVE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD. 
          I HAVE NO HIRING, UH, AUTHORITY ON MY OWN. 
          I HAVE NO FIRING AUTHORITY ON MY OWN. 
          I HAVE NO VETO POWER ON MY OWN. 
          UH, SO BASICALLY I'M, UH, LIKE A FULL-TIME MEMBER OF THE TOWN BOARD RATHER THAN, RATHER THAN SOMEBODY WHO HAS, YOU KNOW, UH, THE EXECUTIVE AUTHORITY THAT, YOU KNOW, VILLAGE ADMINISTRATORS HAVE OR MAYORS OF CITIES HAVE. 
          SO I SORT OF FEEL THAT WE HAVE TO, IF THIS IS GONNA WORK AND THIS POSITION, UM, IS GONNA BE EFFECTIVE, WE ALL HAVE TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT RESPONSIBILITIES WE COULD ALL LIVE WITH FOR THAT POSITION. 
          AND THEN, UM, UH, COME UP WITH THE, THE TITLE AND DUTIES THAT WE COULD ALL LIVE WITH AND THEN WORK TOGETHER AND SEE IF IT COULD, IF, IF IT COULD WORK. 
          YOU KNOW, AND I, I, I REALIZE, I THINK IT'S, IT WILL BENEFIT ALL OF US BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHEN WE MAKE MISTAKES, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO LIKE FINGER POINT AND, UM, SAY, OH, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THIS PERSON OR THAT PERSON. 
          BUT IF WE HAD, UM, IF WE HAD, IF, IF THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE HAD, YOU KNOW, MORE RESOURCES AND WE HAD THE RIGHT PERSON IN THIS JOB, UM, AND THAT PERSON HAS THE, UM, THE SUPPORT OF THE TOWN BOARD AND THE RESPECT OF THE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, TOWN DEPARTMENT HEADS, I THINK THAT, UM, IT COULD HELP US MANAGE MORE EFFICIENTLY. 
          RICH FUND, YOU KNOW, A YEAR, A FEW YEARS AGO, YOU KNOW, HE WAS COMPLAINING, OH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAVING SO MANY PROBLEMS FILLING POSITIONS IN ENGINEERING MM-HMM . 
          AND HE WENT UP TO ME A FEW YEARS AGO, HE SAID, YOU NEED AN OPERATIONS PERSON. 
          YOU KNOW, HE, HE WAS THE ONE WHO MENTIONED THIS. 
          SO OTHER PEOPLE HAVE MENTIONED THIS IN THE PAST. 
          AND YOU DIDN'T TAKE THAT AS A COMPLIMENT, DID YOU? I TOOK IT AS A, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? I, IT'S NOT WHETHER PEOPLE ARE COMPLIMENTING. 
          YOU HAVE TO REFLECT ON WHAT, WHAT IS RIGHT IN THE TOWN AND WHAT IS WRONG IN THE TOWN. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, UH, THE THING IS, ALL OF US HAVE ONE GOAL, AND THAT IS TO PROVIDE RESIDENTS WITH THE BEST SERVICES HUMANLY POSSIBLE MM-HMM . 
          AT THE, AND MAKE IT MOST EFFICIENTLY. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THE THING IS, IT'S NOT WHETHER PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OH, YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG, OR, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BELIEVE IT. 
          UM, OR THIS IS WHAT YOU COULD DO BETTER EVERY TIME SOMEBODY CRITICIZES, YOU KNOW, I LISTEN, I REFLECT, AND I THINK ALL OF US HAVE TO DO THAT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, AT THE BOTTOM LINE, IT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT IF WE COULD LOOK EVERYBODY IN THE EYE AND SAY, WE'RE GIVING YOU REALLY GREAT VALUE FOR YOUR TAXES. 
          AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THIS TOWN IS BETTER RUN THAN ANY OTHER COMMUNITY IN, IN AMERICA. 
          I, I THINK THAT THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION REALLY BRINGS UP A QUESTION OF HOW WE ORGANIZE OUR TOWN GOVERNMENT, RIGHT? AND MAYBE WE NEED TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT WHAT REALLY MAKES SENSE IN TERMS OF, WELL, REALLY, THE STATE LAW MAY SH MAY CHANGE IN TERMS OF THE ROLES BECAUSE MAYBE THE TOWN SUPERVISOR'S POSITION SHOULD HAVE HIRING AND FIR THAT'S NOT OUR PURVIEW RIGHT NOW. 
          SO I THINK WE SHOULD MOVE ON FROM THAT. 
          MAYBE REALLY, IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF THE BUCK IS GONNA STOP WITH ONE PERSON MM-HMM . 
          THAT ONE PERSON NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO HIRE TO FIRE AND TO VITO JUST LIKE THEY DO EVERY PLACE ELSE. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT THAT ONE PERSON ALSO MAKES A FULL-TIME SALARY, UNLIKE THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          YEAH. 
          BUT I SHOULD MENTION THAT I'M THE LEASE PAID, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD, THE TOWN , YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ONE OF THE MOST HIGHLY PAID SUPERVISORS IN ALL OF WESTCHESTER. 
          YES, HE IS. 
          AND FOR, AND YOU WERE PAID EVEN MORE MONEY THAN THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE, I THINK 178. 
          AND, UH, AND THERE'S PEOPLE MAKING 230 AND, AND I WAS LOOKING THAT'S A TOWN MANAGER. 
          THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT NO, BUT NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, I'M NOT COMPLAINING. 
          YOU MENTIONED IT, BUT MY BRAIN IS TOTALLY GONE. 
          THE REASON WHY YOU HAVE A LOWER SALARY IS FOR MANY, MANY YEARS YOU HAD THIS, THIS, 
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SOME PEOPLE CALLED IT A GIMMICK, THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GET A SALARY INCREASE BASED ON YOUR PERFORMANCE EACH YEAR. 
          AND IT, IT SOUNDED GREAT, RIGHT? UM, AND FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, YOU KNOW, SO IF YOU GOT 90%, OKAY, SO YOU GOT 90% OF THE INCREASE, AND THAT COMPOUNDED OVER THE YEARS. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT, THAT WAS YOUR DOING. 
          IT WASN'T . 
          NO, I'M NOT, HE REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A LOW SALARY COMPARED TO OTHERS. 
          HE'S GOT ONE OF THE HIGHEST, BUT I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT COMPLAINING, I'M JUST SAYING I'M NOT COMPLAINING. 
          ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT ALL I'M LOOKING FOR IS, UM, TO PROVIDE THE TOWN BOARD AND MYSELF WITH TOOLS SO WE COULD RUN THE BEST AND MOST EFFICIENT OPERATION POSSIBLE. 
          THAT'S ALL. 
          MM-HMM. 
          IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT THE TOWN BOARD. 
          I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT WE DON THINK YOU ARE. 
          I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT, I JUST FEEL LIKE DEPARTMENT DISRESPECT TOWN. 
          I JUST THINK THAT WE TAKE AWAY FROM WHAT THE HARD WORK THAT I'M DEPART. 
          I'M SAYING, YOU ALL DO A GOOD JOB. 
          NO, BUT, BUT THEN YOU, I'M NOT, I'M NOT CRITICIZING ANYBODY. 
          I'M SAYING BUT YOU EVERYTHING THAT YOU NO, NO, BECAUSE I'M SAYING I WANTED, THEY, ALL I'M SAYING IS, I SAID BEFORE, EVERYBODY THAT I SPEAK TO SAYS THE SERVICES ARE EXCELLENT. 
          I I SAID THAT 15 MINUTES AGO. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I SAID, NOBODY IS COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SERVICES. 
          EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT OUR, UH, UH, WE HAVE THE AAA BOND RATING, SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE MANAGED WELL BY, YOU KNOW, MOODY'S AND STANDARD POR IS IMPRESSED WITH THE WAY WE'RE MANAGED. 
          UM, SO, UM, SO THERE'S REAL, THE TAX RATES AND THE AMOUNT OF TAXES PEOPLE ARE PAYING FOR SERVICES, IT'S CONSISTENT WITH, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMUNITIES. 
          WE'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, CHARGING PEOPLE MORE OR, YOU KNOW, WE'RE CHARGING PEOPLE WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE BASICALLY CHARGING SOME COMMUNITIES LESS, SOME PEOPLE A LITTLE MORE. 
          SO I SORT OF FEEL NOW WE, IF IF YOU HAVE A GREAT OPERATION, WHAT COULD WE DO TO MAKE IT BETTER? THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. 
          AND I FEEL THIS POSITION WILL HELP US DO THAT. 
          BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU COULD THINK ABOUT IT AND THEN WE COULD, UH, WE, I THINK WE SHOULD SIT DOWN AND WE COULD, WE SHOULD WORK OUT OKAY. 
          UM, THE TITLE AND THEN WE SHOULD DECIDE AS A BOARD IF WE WANT TO DO AN RFP AND LOOK FOR THE PERSON. 
          AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD DECIDE THAT NOBODY FITS THE BILL, OR WE COULD DECIDE THIS PERSON WOULD BE REALLY GREAT. 
          WE SHOULD WORK WITH A CONTROLLER. 
          WE SHOULD WORK WITH, UM, ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND HELP THEM, UH, PARTICIPATE IN, UM, IN THE PROCESS. 
          SO THERE'S BUY-IN BECAUSE OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS DON'T BUY INTO THIS, UM, THEN THE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, THE PERSON'S NOT GONNA BE INEFFECTIVE. 
          YEAH. 
          OR WE COULD DECIDE TO CHANGE HOW WE RUN OUR GOVERNMENT. 
          RIGHT. 
          I'M, THAT'S FINE. 
          WE SHOULD. 
          YEP. 
          CAN I JUST MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT? UM, I'M STILL NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT, SO MY BRAIN IS NOT TOTALLY CLEAR ON THIS, BUT I DO KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IN A PRIOR ELECTION, SOMEBODY RUNNING AGAINST YOU, PAUL, IT MAY HAVE BEEN BOB BERNSTEIN, BUT I, I'M PRETTY SURE IT WAS. 
          BUT I, I WOULDN'T TAKE IT TO THE BANK AT THE MOMENT. 
          HE RAN ON A PLATFORM OF ELECT ME. 
          I WILL CUT MY SALARY AND BRING IN A FULL-TIME ADMINISTRATOR TO RUN THE RUN THE TOWN. 
          AND YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT, WHICH SEEMED VERY EFFECTIVE, IS WITH ME, YOU GET THE SUPERVISOR, PLUS YOU GET THE ADMINISTRATOR. 
          YOU DON'T NEED THE ADMINISTRATOR BECAUSE I'M YOUR SUPERVISOR. 
          YOU GET ONE INSTEAD OF TWO. 
          NOW, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE CREATING A POSITION FOR THAT ADMINISTRATOR WHILE YOU'RE STILL A SUPERVISOR. 
          AND I, I'M JUST SURPRISED THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT. 
          NO, WELL, FIRST OF ALL, AND THIS IS THE LAST, I'LL SAY, FIRST OF ALL, I ALWAYS REFLECT, WAS THAT CORRECT? YEAH, NO, I ALWAYS REFLECT ON WHAT MY CRITICS SAY. 
          AND EVERY ONE OF MY FORMER OPPONENTS, I BENEFITED FROM THEIR CRITICISMS AND THEIR SUGGESTIONS. 
          I'M NOW WORKING WITH LUCAS CFI, YOU KNOW, ON, ON TRAFFIC. 
          HE RAN AGAINST ME ALSO. 
          AND NOW, YOU KNOW, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M WORKING COOPERATIVELY, YOU KNOW, WITH HIM. 
          BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, MY FAILING IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THE WAY I I WANNA STRUCTURE IT IS IT WOULD BE A DEPUTY SUPERVISOR, JUST LIKE EVERY DEPARTMENT HEAD IN THE TOWN HAS DEPUTY COMMISSIONERS WORKING UNDER THEM. 
          SO THIS PERSON WOULD, UM, UM, REPORT TO ME. 
          I WOULD PROVIDE THEM WITH, UM, PROJECTS, UM, THAT I THINK, UM, WE NEED HELP ON. 
          UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN JUST THE EDGEMONT ISSUE, IF EDGEMONT, YOU KNOW, BREAKS AWAY, WE, I JUST GOT SERVED TODAY, YOU KNOW, FROM THAT LAWSUIT, YOU KNOW, THEY GAVE ME A WHOLE STACK. 
          SO THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT EDGEMONT STILL IS GONNA BREAK AWAY. 
          SO ARE WE PREPARED? DO WE KNOW, UH, DO WE HAVE A, A BACKUP PLAN? YOU KNOW, THIS IS GONNA TAKE AN ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF TIME THAT, YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF RESOURCES THAT THE CONTROLLER INDIVIDUALLY CAN'T DO, OR I DON'T HAVE ALL THE SKILLS, SO I NEED THE HELP OF SOMEBODY WHO IS WELL, THAT'S WHAT 
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HAVE YOUR DEPARTMENT HEADS FOR, FOR THINGS LIKE THAT, TO TALK TO, TO WORK WITH THEM TOGETHER TO SOLVE THOSE PROBLEMS. WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, MANY OF THEM ARE COMPLAINING THAT THEY'RE SHORT STAFFED. 
          YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK, UH, LISA WAS MENTIONING JUST THE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION REQUEST. 
          WE ARE GETTING, WHAT IS IT, 1500 REQUESTS INSTEAD OF 300 REQUESTS? YES, YES. 
          UH, FROM LAST YEAR. 
          SO THAT'S TIME CONSUMING. 
          SO EVERYBODY'S, UM, STRAP FOR, FOR, FOR WORK. 
          YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EMPLOYEES, UH, FOR THE WORK. 
          THEY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GIVING THEM AN AWFUL LOT OF, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, ASSIGNMENTS, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, TO DO. 
          AND I FEEL THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, WE, WITH MORE HELP, WE COULD DO BETTER. 
          EVEN THE LIBRARY, YOU KNOW, I WAS SORT OF THINKING OF THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE LIBRARY IS BUILT, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAR WE DIDN'T HAVE A PROJECT, UH, MANAGER. 
          WE HAD A CONSTRUCTION MA I HAD SUGGESTED, UM, YEAH, I DIDN'T LIKE THE, UM, YOU KNOW, THE WAY WE WERE HANDLING IT, BUT WE, YOU KNOW, THE LIBRARY IS RELATIVELY NO. 
          AND WE WERE ALREADY IN NEED OF A ROOF. 
          NOW THAT'S BECAUSE WE DIDN'T, TO ME, WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION WAS DONE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE LIBRARY WAS BUILT, UM, WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS IN THE, IN THE CON CONSTRUCTION. 
          THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, BUT THESE THINGS HAPPEN IN ALL MUNICIPALITIES. 
          ACTUALLY. 
          PERSON WOULD'VE KNOWN THAT PRIOR TO. 
          NO, BUT I'M SAYING, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, IF YOU HAD SOMEBODY, UH, WHO'S GUIDING THE TOWN, ANOTHER EYES, AND HES, AND WE'RE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION, THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO GIVE US SOME, SOME ADVICE WHEN WE'RE DEALING. 
          WE MET EARLY, WELL THEN THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE, THAT WASN'T THE PROBLEM. 
          THAT WASN'T, IF I COULD, IF I COULD, THAT WASN'T THE PROBLEM. 
          THE PROBLEM IS WE WENT OUT THE BOND, THE TOWN WENT OUT THE BOND, AND THERE WAS A FIXED DOLLAR AMOUNT IN THAT BOND. 
          AND THERE WAS A RESIDENT WHO WAS MAKING SURE THAT WE, THE TOWN, THE TOWN DID NOT SPEND A DOLLAR MORE THAN WHAT THAT BOND WAS, EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS INCREASES IN COSTS FOR EQUIP FOR, UH, FOR THE MATERIALS. 
          AND SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT IF YOU HAVE A 25 YEAR ROOF AND THEN YOU, UM, UH, PUT DOWN A 10 YEAR ROOF, THAT THE ROOF'S ONLY GONNA LAST ABOUT 10 YEARS, BUT YOU DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE YOU HAD TO STAY WITHIN THAT BOND AMOUNT. 
          WELL, THERE WAS INCREASES IN COSTS. 
          SO THERE, IT WASN'T A CONTRACTOR THAT, SO THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH HOW IT WAS BUILT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T BLAME EVERYTHING ON, HEY, IF WE ONLY HAD A DIFFERENT MANAGER, THE MANAGER COULD ONLY WORK WITHIN THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT THEY CAN WORK WITH. 
          AND, UM, YOU COULD GO BACK AND CHECK AND, AND YOU'LL FIND THAT THAT'S ACCURATE. 
          AND LOOK AT THE, LOOK AT THE WARRANTY THAT WAS ON THAT ROOF, AND IT'S LIVING UP TO ITS EXPECTATION. 
          YEAH. 
          THERE'S SOME PROBLEMS IN, IN, IN SAYING YOU HAVE TO WORK WITHIN THIS BUDGET. 
          UM, YOU CERTAINLY HAVE BUDGET PARAMETERS, BUT, YOU KNOW, HAVING BEEN IN THAT INDUSTRY AS OWNING AN ARCHITECTURAL AND DESIGN FIRM FOR MANY, MANY YEARS, DOING CORPORATE INTERIORS, UH, KNOWING WHAT THE PROCESSES ARE, THERE ARE ANY NUMBER OF THINGS THAT CAN COME UP WITH, AND ONE OF THEM, AS REFERENCED BY, UM, COUNCILMAN SHEEN, IS THAT THE COST OF MATERIALS IS VERY VAR VARIABLE IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. 
          AND YOU CAN'T LOCK DOWN NUMBERS BASED ON THAT. 
          THERE ARE ALWAYS UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES IN, FOR INSTANCE, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE. 
          MAYBE YOU HAVE TO, YOU DIDN'T KNOW HOW FAR, FAR ROCK THE, THE, THE ROCK SHELF PROTRUDED AND HAD TO BLAST A LOT MORE THAN EXPECTED. 
          SO THERE ARE ALL THESE, THERE ARE OFTEN UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, AND THEN WHEN YOU ARE LOCKED IN, YOU START HAVING TO CUT BACK ON AS, AS, UM, THE COUNCILMAN REFERENCED, LIKE THE, THE MATERIALS ON THE ROOF THAT MADE IT ONLY GAVE IT ONLY A TENURE YEAR LIFE VERSUS A LONGER ONE. 
          SO THAT ISN'T SOMETHING THAT A FINANCIAL, UM, OR DEPUTY SUPERVISOR IS NECESSARILY GOING GOING TO KNOW. 
          AND THERE ARE WAYS TO DO TO, TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS AND BE ABLE TO ANTICIPATE THEM IN OTHER WAYS. 
          SO, UM, I THINK I JUST USED THAT WORD WORD TWICE. 
          BUT, BUT THAT'S REALLY THE THING IS IF WE AS A BOARD WOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD, YOU KNOW, AT THE TIME THE LIBRARY WAS DONE, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD BE PENNYWISE AND POUND FOOLISH, AND YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU'RE GONNA HAVE LEAKS IN THE LIBRARY ROOF, UH, ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. 
          UH, IF YOU DON'T DO THIS RIGHT, THEN THE BOARD MIGHT 
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AT THAT TIME HAVE MADE DIFFERENT DECISIONS. 
          BUT THEY, YOU KNOW, SO THE THING IS, RIGHT NOW, WE HEARD FROM THE POLICE CHIEF AND, UH, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GARRETT ABOUT THE COURT AND POLICE HEADQUARTERS, AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE PROBABLY NOT ANTICIPATING ALL THE POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, ISSUES AND POSSIBLE PROBLEMS. THERE'S NO WAY WE COULD NO, I'M SAYING, AND NO ONE, THAT'S WHY NO, NO ENGINEER DESIGNS A ROOF TO HAVE LEAKS. 
          THE PROBLEM WAS THAT IT LASTED ITS LIFE AND THEN THE MATERIALS STARTED TO FAIL BECAUSE THAT'S ALL THEY WERE GUARANTEED FOR. 
          THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY ALTOGETHER. 
          AND IF, AND PERHAPS THESE SUPERVISION, UM, OF THE CONSTRUCTION WAS PROBLEMATIC, THERE COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF REASONS. 
          IT'S, IT'S NOT AS SIMPLE AS YOU MAKE IT. 
          NO, BUT I'M SAYING, BUT IT PUT, BUT IT PUTS, BUT, BUT IT, IT GOES TO YOUR POINT QUOTE, UH, IT'S CALLED VALUE ENGINEERING, WHICH IS A REALLY NICE, FANCY TERM FOR SAYING YOU REALLY CUTTING A LOT OUT OF A PROJECT. 
          RIGHT. 
           VALUE ENGINEERING. 
          IT'S, YOU'RE JUST DECREASING IT. 
          SO YOU SAID BEFORE $15 MILLION, THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT TO SPEND ON A COURTHOUSE. 
          WELL, I, WHAT DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA GET FOR $15 MILLION IF THE THING IS REALLY SUPPOSED TO COST $20 MILLION, BUT YOU WANT 15, THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE CUTS SOMEPLACE. 
          AND ONE OF IT'S GOING TO BE ON, YOU KNOW, MARK, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LIFE OF CERTAIN MATERIALS. 
          YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU DON'T GET ANYTHING BUT NOTHING, RIGHT. 
          SO WE, WE'VE GOTTA BE WISE. 
          BUT I THINK WHERE WE STARTED WITH ALL OF THIS WAS WE NEED, WE HAVE THE RESOLUTION ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK, UH, TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT STUDY. 
          I THINK I'M HEARING THAT IT'S GOING TO GO FORWARD FINALLY, WHICH WAS GREAT ON THAT NEXT WEEK. 
          AND WE'LL LEARN FROM THAT. 
          UM, AND WE KIND OF CONFLATED BOTH TOPICS HERE FOR SOME REASON OR OTHER  OF, OF HOW DO WE RUN THE TOWN? AND ALSO, UM, THE POLICE STATION, UH, COURTHOUSE THING. 
          UH, WELL, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SUPERVISION OF PROJECTS, SO THAT EXACTLY WAS A NATURAL SORT OF SEGUE FOR YOU TO SAY THAT. 
          RIGHT. 
          BUT, BUT ALL OF THIS JUST, YOU KNOW, MEANS, YOU KNOW, OVERSIGHT. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND THE, THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE VERY SIGNIFICANT OVERSIGHT OF THEIR DEPARTMENTS, UH, THAT THE LIAISON TO, AND I WAS JUST TROUBLED THAT YOU WANTED TO HAVE SOMEBODY IN BETWEEN, UM, TO WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENTS INSTEAD OF YOURSELF. 
          NO, FIRST. 
          FIRST. 
          NO. 
          I THINK YOU ARE MISREADING IT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SHOULD WE, WE NEED TO MOVE ON. 
          OKAY, NEXT. 
          NO, WE HAVE WHAT? WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM. 
          WE DO. 
          YEAH. 
          ADOPTING, ADOPTING REAL PROPERTY TAX LAWS. 
          OKAY. 
          REGARDING THE FIRE, FIRE ASSUMPTION. 
          YES. 
          SHE, YEAH. 
          HOLD ON. 
          HERE SHE COMES. 
          OH, DON'T WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING ON AT SEVEN O'CLOCK? THAT'S WHY WE'RE WAITING FOR EDIE. 
          THAT'S WHY WE ARE TRYING TO MOVE WITH, NO, I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW. 
          EDIE, ARE YOU THERE? I JUST, IS THAT SOMETHING WE COULD DO NEXT WEEK? WHAT? UH, SHE'S, WAIT, SHE'S EXPECTED TO COME RIGHT DOWN. 
          MM-HMM. 
          WE DO HAVE, WE HAD IT ON FOR 6 35. 
          SO SHE WAS ASKING ABOUT THE TIMING. 
          ALRIGHT, NOW WE KEEP GOING OVER. 
          HMM? WE KEEP GOING OVER. 
          YEAH, BUT WE STILL HAVE, WE HAVE, UM, THAT'S THE LAST THING BEFORE. 
          I'LL SAY IN THE MEANTIME, WHILE WE'RE WAITING FOR ED, THAT BASED ON THIS DISCUSSION, MY OFFICE WILL BE DRAFTING A LOCAL LAW TO IMPLEMENT WHATEVER THE BOARD DECIDES ON THIS ISSUE, THE FIREMAN'S EXEMPTION AND TENDON. 
          I BELIEVE WE HAVE SCHEDULED A FEBRUARY 12TH HEARING DATE, SO ABOUT A MONTH FROM NOW. 
          AND WHETHER WE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION FULLY TONIGHT OR NEXT WEEK, I'LL CONTINUE TO STAY IN TOUCH WITH THE ASSESSOR AND ENSURE THAT YOU TIMELY HAVE A DRAFTED LAW, UM, THAT YOU CAN REVIEW FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          DO WE NEED FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT IT?  BE ON TIME? WELL, I THINK I KNOW THIS PROPOSAL FROM THE ASSESSOR TO, IS THAT WHAT, OH, IS IT MY BACK? LISA? NO, I'M JUST ASKING, COULD YOU HAVE A SEAT? PLEASE DON'T START , PLEASE. 
          PLEASE. 
          OKAY. 
          LEMME SEE SOMETHING. 
          ALRIGHT, KATIE, CAN YOU GIVE US THE TWO MINUTE VERSION? YES. 
          OKAY. 
          I CAN. 
          SO I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE FOUR, THE, UH, VOLUNTEER FIRE AND AMBULANCE EXEMPTION 
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THAT WE ALREADY HAVE ON RECORD IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY. 
          MANY YEARS AGO, UM, GOVERNOR PASSED THE LEGISLATION INTO LAW THAT IT WAS A 4 66 D. 
          NOW THAT EXEMPTION EXPIRES, UM, TO BE REPLACED BY 4 66 A. 
          WHAT THE D MEANS IS THAT A VOLUNTEER HAD TO BE A VOLUNTEER FOR A MINIMUM OF FIVE YEARS AND HAD TO RE HAD TO BE AN ACTIVE MEMBER AND HAD TO RENEW THEIR EXEMPTION, UH, FOR THEIR EXEMPTION, UM, EVERY YEAR. 
          UM, THERE'S OTHER SPECIFICS IN THERE, BUT, BUT I CAN GET INTO THOSE IN A MINUTE. 
          CHANGING IT OVER TO 4 66 A OH, AND IT, AND IT ALSO, IT'S A 10% EXEMPTION. 
          THAT'S WHAT IT WAS. 
          4 66 D 4 66 A. 
          IT GIVES YOU THE OPTION LOCALLY TO ADAPT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN AN ACTIVE MEMBER IS ELIGIBLE FOR THE EXEMPTION ANYWHERE BETWEEN TWO AND FIVE YEARS. 
          RIGHT NOW IT'S FIVE. 
          SO YOU CAN CHOOSE ANYWHERE BETWEEN 2, 3, 4, OR FIVE YEARS. 
          NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, YOU CAN CHOOSE THE EXEMPTION AMOUNTS UP TO 10%. 
          YOU WANT IT TO BE 1%. 
          THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE. 
          THAT'S NUMBER TWO. 
          NUMBER THREE, WHERE IN 4 66 D, THE FIRST ONE YOU HAD TO RESIDE IN THE MUNICIPALITY THAT YOU WERE VOLUNTEERING IN. 
          SO IF YOU WERE A VOLUNTEER IN ARDSLEY, YOU HAD TO LIVE IN ARDSLEY. 
          IF YOU'RE A VOLUNTEER IN IRVINGTON, YOU LIVE IN IRVINGTON. 
          THE LAW 4 66 A HAS CHANGED TO SAY, YOU MEAN TO GET THE EXEMPTION? TO GET THE EXEMPTION TO QUALIFY, YES. 
          YOU COULD BE A VOLUNTEER IN ARDSLEY AND NOT LIVE IN ARDSLEY. 
          BUT TO GET THE EXEMPTION, YOU HAD TO BE A VOLUNTEER IN ALEY AND WITH ALEY. 
          THAT IS CORRECT. 
          THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT. 
          NOW, 4 66 A, UM, IN THE LAW, IT INDICATES THAT YOU CAN LIVE ANYWHERE IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY AND VOLUNTEER IN A VOLUNTEER, UH, ORGANIZATION AND BE ELIGIBLE TO RECEIVE THE EXEMPTION. 
          SO IF YOU LIVE IN THE UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG AND YOU VOLUNTEER IN ONE OF THE SIX SEVEN VOL, UH, VILLAGE, SIX VILLAGES VILLAGE VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENTS, OKAY, UM, YOU WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. 
          SO THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE. 
          YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHETHER YOU WANT TWO TO FIVE YEARS, WHETHER YOU WANNA MAINTAIN THE 10%. 
          AND THE TWO OTHER THINGS THAT I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. 
          IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THIS EXEMPTION, YOU HAVE TO BE A QUOTE UNQUOTE ACTIVE MEMBER, AND YOU HAVE TO RENEW EVERY YEAR. 
          WHAT'S THE DEFINITION OF AN ACTIVE MEMBER? RIGHT? THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          MM-HMM . 
          THERE IS NO DEFINITION IN THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW. 
          HOWEVER, THE CHIEFS OF EACH OF THE VOLUNTEER DEPARTMENTS FIRE AND AMBULANCE HAVE TO CERTIFY. 
          THESE MEMBERS ARE ACTIVE MEMBERS ANNUALLY TO ME. 
          SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN DEFINITIONS. 
          ALL SIX DEPARTMENTS HAVE THEIR OWN DEFINITION OF ACTIVE MEMBERS. 
          SIX DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS. 
          YEAH, THEY'RE PRETTY CLOSE. 
          OKAY. 
          THEY'RE CLOSE, YOU KNOW, AND THEY GO ON A POINT SCHEDULE, ALL SIX OF THEM GO ON A POINT SCHEDULE. 
          SO YOU GET CERTAIN POINTS FOR GOING TO, UH, AN EVENT. 
          YOU GET CERTAIN POINTS FOR GOING TO A DINNER, YOU GET CERTAIN POINTS FOR GOING TO FIRES. 
          A VOLUNTEER FIREFIGHTER. 
          YES. 
          AND AN AMBULANCE. 
          UH, AND, AND SO YOU GET THESE POINTS AND IN ORDER TO, YOU HAVE TO ACCUMULATE X NUMBER OF POINTS TO BE CONSIDERED A QUOTE UNQUOTE ACTIVE MEMBER. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. 
          I WHAT I DO, WE HAVE THOSE CRITERIA THAT WE COULD LIKE TAKE A LOOK AT FOR THE SIX VILLAGE. 
          WHAT I HAVE FOR YOU TODAY IS, UM, A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S EXISTING ON OUR, ON OUR LAW BOOKS RIGHT NOW. 
          MM-HMM . 
          FRANCIS, I'LL GET IT TO YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          SORRY. 
          THAT'S OKAY. 
          I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT BEFORE. 
          UM, OH, CAN I HAVE THAT BACK? I THINK THAT'S MINE. 
          YEAH. 
          SORRY. 
          JUNE. 
          NO. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR BOOKS TODAY, THANK YOU IS IS WRITTEN AND WHAT I HAVE PROPOSED IS, IF YOU CAN SEE ON THE FRONT PAGE, THAT'S WHAT'S IN OUR TOWN CODE. 
          SO IF YOU COULD SEE PARAGRAPH B, IT SAYS 4 66 D. 
          WE HAVE TO CHANGE THAT TO 4 66 A JOE, I'LL GET YOU A COPY OF IT AS WELL ON YOUR DESK. 
          UM, THE COST BORN BY THE, THE COST BORN IN PARAGRAPH C, THE COST BORN BY THE VOLUNTEER PROPERTY TAX REDUCTION SHALL BE CHARGED BACK TO EACH VOLUNTEER DISTRICT. 
          WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT, UM, FOR AS LONG AS WE HAVE IMPLEMENTED THE EXEMPTION. 
          I THINK THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE REPEALED BECAUSE YOU'RE ELIGIBLE, YOU'RE ELIGIBLE ANYWHERE. 
          YOU CAN LIVE ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTY AND RECEIVE THIS EXEMPTION. 
          SO IF SOMEBODY LIVES IN WHITE PLAINS AND VOLUNTEERS IN ARTLEY, THEY'RE ALLOWED TO HAVE THE EXEMPTION. 
          SO IT'S IN WHITE PLAINS, IT'S MUTE. 
          NOW. 
          I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY VILLAGE, ANY VILLAGE, UM, ADOPTION OF THIS THAT HAS, THAT. 
          THEY ALL HAVE, THAT YOU HAVE TO STILL LIVE IN THEIR VILLAGE. 
          IT'S, UH, IT'S NOT IN THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW. 
          SO IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE YOU LIVE. 
          SO THEY'RE ALLOWED TO, IN ORDER TO GET THE EXEMPTION, THEY MAY NOT BE WELCOME IN OTHER AREAS, BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE EXEMPTION, YOU CAN LIVE IN ANY ANY PLACE. 
          SO ARE THE VILLAGES REDOING THEIR LAWS? UH, THEY 
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DID SOME, BUT THE LAWS HAVE CLEARLY DON'T SAY THAT. 
          THE LAWS SAY THAT IF YOU ARE VOLUNTEERING, YOU HAVE TO LIVE IN ELFORD, FOR EXAMPLE, TO GET THE EXEMPTION OF VOLUNTEERING. 
          UH, AND YOU HAVE TO VOLUNTEER AND NOW FOR, TO GET THE EXEMPTION IN . 
          WELL, I HAVE THREE APPLICANTS SITTING ON MY DESK WAITING FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO MAKE A DECISION. 
          THEY ALL, ALL THREE PEOPLE LIVE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, AND THEY VOLUNTEER IN LEY, IRVINGTON AND TERRYTOWN. 
          THREE DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN THREE DIFFERENT AREAS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA. 
          SO THEY'VE BEEN VOLUNTEERS NOT 20 YEARS, BUT LONGER THAN FIVE. 
          WELL, JUST, JUST FOR CLARIFICATION, UM, UM, COUNCILMAN SHIN IS, IS THE, THE ONES THAT THOSE HAVE, HAVE THEY REVISED THEIR LAWS RECENTLY OR ARE THEY YET TO REVISE THEIR LOSS? SO I THINK IT WAS ON THE BALLOT IN DOBBS FERRY. 
          YES. 
          SO UNDER THE REAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, THIS 4 66 D, WHICH ALL THE VILLAGES HAD, UM, BECAUSE THE LAW'S EXPIRING, I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR, FOR OVER A YEAR, THAT THAT'S, THEY REVISED THEIR REAL, THEY REVISED THEIR TOWN, THEIR VILLAGE LAWS TO GO UNDER FOUR CC A WELL, I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. 
          IF ALL THE VILLAGES YES. 
          REVISED THEIR LAWS OR IF PERHAPS THE ONES THAT WERE REFERENCED BY THE, BY THE COUNCILMAN HADN'T YET REVISED THEIR LAWS. 
          THEY, THEY'VE ALL UPDATED IT, IT'S ALL DONE TO 4 66 A, WHICH INDICATES THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIVE IN THE VILLAGE THAT YOU WOULD VOLUNTEER IN TO, TO PROCEED THE EXEMPTION. 
          THEY ALL HAVE UPDATED IT. 
          'CAUSE YOU SHOWED ME, UM, THEIR LAWS AND IT SEEMED LIKE THE, THE ONES I READ AT LEAST SAY THAT YOU HAD TO LIVE IN THEIR VILLAGE NOT TO RECEIVE THE YEAH, NOT TO RECEIVE THE EXEMPTION, THOUGH. 
          I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR LAWS SAY AS FAR AS BEING IDENTIFIED AS A, UM, WAS IT ELMSFORD THAT YOU SHOWED ME? I DID, I DID. 
          IT WAS ELMSFORD. 
          RIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO WHAT WE CAN'T HAVE WITH THE TOWN, THE VILLAGES CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT. 
          I DON'T THINK AS A TOWN WE CAN HAVE A DIFFERENT STANDARD FOR EXEMPTIONS IN ONE VILLAGE VERSUS ANOTHER, VERSUS THE INCORPORATED AREA. 
          AN EXEMPTION AT THE TOWN LEVEL SHOULD BE ONE STANDARD. 
          AND SO I THINK WE HAVE TO WORK OUT AS TO WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE AN ACTIVE MEMBER AS ONE STANDARD, AT LEAST FOR THE TOWN'S PART OF THE TAX. 
          YEAH. 
          SO I, I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND UM, I AGREE WITH YOU. 
          I'M NOT GONNA ADMIT THAT AGAIN. 
          UM, SO I'M SORRY, I KNOW I DIDN'T , , COULD YOU REPEAT WHAT YOU JUST NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT. 
          SO WITH THAT, UM, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THE TOWN TO PUT, AND JUST A THOUGHT I'M THROWING ON THE TABLE. 
          UM, WE CAN DEFINE AN ACTIVE MEMBER HERE. 
          MM-HMM . 
          AS A MEMBER WHO, UM, GOES TO, I DON'T KNOW, 10% OF THE CALLS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. 
          I, BECAUSE THE CHIEFS HAVE TO RECERTIFY THE ACTIVE MEMBERS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS, WE CAN ASK THEM, GIVE THEM THE FORM THAT THEY HAVE TO FILL OUT, AND WE CAN SAY, HOW MANY CALLS DID YOU HAVE THIS YEAR? AND HOW MANY CALLS DID THAT PURCHASE THAT EL THAT UH, APPLICANT ATTEND? MM-HMM . 
          AND IF IT'S 10%, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THE EXEMPTION. 
          IF IT'S NOT, THEN THEY'RE NOT. 
          THAT WOULD BE ALSO, THAT WOULD BE ON THE ASSESSMENT DEPARTMENT. 
          ALSO TAKE THE, THE SIX DIFFERENT FIRE DISTRICT'S DEFINITIONS OF A, OF ACTIVE AND SORT OF AVERAGE IT. 
          I, I THINK THAT THEY ALL REQUIRE THAT, GIVE OR TAKE THE 10%. 
          BUT, UM, I DON'T WANNA GET INVOLVED IN THEIR LAWS. 
          IF WE PUT THAT IN OUR CODE, THEY HAVE THE NUMBER OF, THEY HAVE THE CALL VOLUME, THEY HAVE TO REPORT THAT, AND THEY HAVE TO ALSO REPORT THE, THE ACTIVITY OF THE VOLUNTEERS. 
          AND WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT FIRE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AMBULANCE AS WELL. 
          MM-HMM . 
          SO I GET, WE HAVE SIX FIRE DEPARTMENTS AND SIX AMBULANCE COURTS. 
          SO I GET 12 LETTERS EVERY YEAR CERTIFYING. 
          IF YOU'RE SAYING 10%, UM, WOULD IT BE BETTER INSTEAD OF GOING ON A PERCENTAGE, GOING ON THE NUMBER OF HOUR, A MINIMUM NUMBER OF HOURS. 
          BECAUSE, UH, YOU COULD HAVE IN SAY ONE FIRE DEPARTMENT, YOU COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, A THOUSAND CALLS. 
          UM, AND SOMEBODY MAY NOT BE ABLE TO DO 10% ON THE, THEY A THOUSAND CALLS WE'RE IN TROUBLE. 
          . 
          BUT I, I, I KNOW, I SEE, UNDERSTAND, I, I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT, I'M JUST MAYBE GIVING AN OPTION A CERTAIN NUMBER OF HOURS. 
          I, WHEN I SPOKE TO THREE OF THE FIRE CHIEFS IN, UH, THREE OF THE DIFFERENT VILLAGES, UH, THEY THOUGHT THAT, 'CAUSE I THOUGHT I ASKED, CALLED THEM AND ASKED THEM IF THEY THOUGHT I WAS CRAZY AND PUTTING THAT ASIDE. 
          'CAUSE THEY ALL SAID YES, , UM, THEY THOUGHT THAT 10% WAS A REASONABLE AMOUNT. 
          OKAY. 
          SO FOR CALLS FOR, YOU KNOW, BEING RESPONSIVE, RESPONSIVE MM-HMM . 
          IF THE IDEA TO GIVE THE WAIVER, I MEAN TO THE, THE REDUCTION IN THE ASSESSMENTS IS BECAUSE THEY NEED TO 
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ENCOURAGE VOLUNTEERS TO VOLUNTEER, RIGHT. 
          SO THAT THEY WILL HAVE PEOPLE RESPONDING TO THE CALLS. 
          MM-HMM . 
          I THINK THAT'S THE ONE ONE DYNA THE VARIABLE THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS IS, YOU KNOW, FINDING AND, YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, MANY VOLUNTEERS WORK FULL-TIME AS WELL, BUT I, I DON'T THINK IT'S UNREASONABLE TO SAY THAT THEY SHOULD GO TO AT LEAST 10% OF THE CALLS. 
          RIGHT. 
          I, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE OKAY IF YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH THAT. 
          I'LL WORK WITH JOE IN WRITING THAT UP. 
          I HAVE TWO MORE, BUT THE 10% IS FOR CALLS AND EVENTS, LIKE DINNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          OR JUST CALLS. 
          CALLS. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          GOOD FOR BOTH FIRE AND AMBULANCE CALLS. 
          CALLS FOR CALLS FOR SERVICE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEY, THEY SHOULD BE, THEY SHOULD, THEY SHOULD ARRIVE BEFORE THE CALL IS CLEARED? WELL, THEY, THEY GET LOGGED IN. 
          WHEN THEY DO ARRIVE AT A CALL, THEY DO GET LOGGED IN. 
          OKAY. 
          SO I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN FOR LIABILITY PURPOSE. 
          YEAH. 
          CASE THAT'S HER. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          TWO MORE POINTS REALLY QUICK. 
          I'M STILL WITHIN MY TWO MINUTES AND, AND WE'LL HAVE A HEARING ABOUT THIS, SO WE'LL HEAR, YOU KNOW, FROM THE PUBLIC. 
          OKAY, PERFECT. 
          SO TWO MORE POINTS. 
          ONE IS THAT IN THE RURAL PROPERTY TAX LAW, IT ALSO GIVES THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES THE OPTION OF OPTING IN TO THE FACT THAT IF A VOLUNTEER PASSES AWAY IN THE LINE OF DUTY, THE SPOUSE WILL STILL RECEIVE THE EXEMPTION. 
          YEP. 
          IF THEY WERE GETTING THE EXEMPTION BEFORE MM-HMM . 
          THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE CAN OPT INTO OR NOT. 
          MM-HMM . 
          NUMBER ONE. 
          NUMBER TWO, IF A 20 YEAR VETERAN PASSES AWAY AND THE SPOUSE WAS, AND THEY WERE RECEIVING THE EXEMPTION PRIOR TO THEIR PASSING, THEIR THIS 20 YEAR VETERAN, THE SPOUSE WOULD STILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE EXEMPTION IF THE, IF THE EXEMPTION WAS, WAS UH, ADMINISTERED PRIOR TO, WASN'T THERE SOME KIND OF LIKE RETIREMENT? RIGHT. 
          WASN'T THERE SOME CAVEAT ABOUT THEIR REMARRYING, THE SPOUSE REMARRYING, IF THEY GET RE IF THEY GET REMARRIED, THE EXEMPTION GOES AWAY. 
          EXACTLY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          RIGHT. 
          THAT'S IT. 
          ANY QUESTIONS? YOU SAID YOU HAD TWO, THAT'S NOT TWO MINUTES. 
          A AND B I'M DONE. 
          DID YOU CALL THAT TWO MINUTES? I DID TWO ITEMS. A , WELL, TWO ITEMS WITH THIS. 
          OKAY. 
          SO IT WAS 12 MINUTES, BUT IT WAS PRETTY GOOD. 
          I JUST HAD A QUESTION, NOT FOR YOU, BUT THIS ABOUT THE FIRE 13 MINUTES DISTRICT. 
          UM, I THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN GETTING CALLS FROM RESIDENTS, YOU KNOW, WHO ARE UPSET, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN LA AND I SORT OF THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE, UM, BENEFICIAL AND PEOPLE LIVE IN FAR NEAR, UH, WOODED AREAS. 
          AND I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE, UM, BENEFICIAL IF, UH, THE BOARD WOULD INVITE THE FIRE CHIEFS, UM, TO A TOWN BOARD MEETING AND JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, ARE WE PREPARED? ARE THE, ARE THE, ARE, ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING THAT WE'RE NOT DOING? WELL? WE HAD FIRES HERE. 
          WE HAD FIRES HERE TOO. 
          WE FIRE, I I SAW THAT EMAIL. 
          IT WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING. 
          NO, BECAUSE NO, I'M JUST SAYING WE JUST HAD, WE JUST HAD THE SAME ISSUE. 
          COUPLE WAS COUPLE MONTHS AGO. 
          A FEW MONTHS AGO. 
          NO, I'M SAYING IT WAS WHEN WE HAD THE DROUGHT, RIGHT? YEAH, NO, I'M SAYING NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING, ARE THERE THINGS THAT IN OUR BUILDING CODES, SHOULD IT BE TIGHTENED UP? UM, WHEN THE PLANNING BOARD IS REVIEWING, YOU KNOW, APPLICATIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT, ARE, ARE THERE THINGS THAT WE COULD DO PROACTIVELY THAT COULD REDUCE THE RISKS WE MET WITH THEM TO HAVE THAT? NO, I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE, I'M JUST THINKING THAT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO HAVE THE FIRE CHIEFS HERE AND THEY WOULD GIVE US SOME, YOU KNOW, THEIR, UH, THEIR UH, THEIR THOUGHTS AND UH, AND ADVICE AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THIS WAY WE COULD BE MORE PROACTIVE. 
          I MEAN, THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T EVEN THOUGHT OF THAT, UM, SO I'M THAT WE COULD, SO, SO ARE YOU ASKING, ARE YOU ASKING THE FIREFIGHTERS TO GIVE ADVICE FIRE CHIEF TO THE, THE FIRE CHIEFS TO GIVE ADVICE TO THE RESIDENTS? OR ARE YOU ASKING THEM TO GIVE US TO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS? NO, TO THE, TO THE RESIDENTS AND, UH, THE TOWN BOARD, THE RESIDENTS, THE TOWN BOARD, THEY WOULD JUST MAKE A PRESENTATION, A WORK SESSION. 
          JUST SAYING. 
          OH, OKAY. 
          OH, YOU JUST FELT LIKE HOME SAFETY, SAFETY MESSAGE. 
          SAFETY MESSAGE FOR RESIDENTS TO MAKE SURE THEY DON'T DO WHAT? DO THINGS LIKE CREATE LIGHT MATCHES AND DRY ENVIRONMENTS. 
           AND, AND AGAIN, THE SAME THING THAT THEY DO WHEN THEY GO OUT TO THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY EVENTS AND THEY HAVE THE FIRETRUCK AND THEY TALK ABOUT FIRE SAFETY, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT? YEAH. 
          BUT THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT WE SHOULD BE DOING, UM, IN OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEWS BECAUSE THERE COULD WE, THERE COULD BE A PROJECT, UH, NARROW WOODED AREA AND UM, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE GOING FORWARD WE COULD MAKE THE, UH, THE CONSTRUCTION MORE FIRE RESISTANT. 
          WELL, I MEAN IF CLIMATE CHANGE HAS MADE IT A SITUATION WHERE, YOU KNOW, OUR AREA'S MORE OF A TINDER BOX NOW, THAT'S SOMETHING TO ADDRESS. 
          YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY WE COULD TALK ABOUT THAT. 
          THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, THEY CAN SURE, THEY CAN COME. 
          OKAY. 
          I MEAN, JUST, YEAH. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WHAT HAPPENS NOW? WHAT HAPPENS NOW? WITH WHAT? WITH HER STUFF? WHAT DO I DO NOW? WE DID IT. 
          THAT'S WHAT YOU SAID. 
          YOU SAID YOU WERE GOING WITH JAIL. 
          WE SET, WE SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR FEBRUARY 12TH, THEN WE'LL DRAFT THE LAW PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AND PROCEED WITH THE 
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HEARING. 
          PERFECT. 
          OKAY. 
          EXCELLENT. 
          I'M DONE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO WE'RE MOVING TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND, UH, THE PURPOSES WE WILL BE DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING INDIVIDUALS, UH, TO INTERVIEW FIRMS FOR POTENTIAL APPOINTMENTS OF A, OF A PARTICULAR, UM, YOU KNOW, CORPORATION. 
          UM, AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE. 
          IT'S WHEN IT SAYS TO INTERVIEW FIRMS FOR POTENTIAL APPOINTMENT OF A PARTICULAR, OH, DO WE WANNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC? JOE? POTENTIAL? I, I THINK THAT WAS MUCH MORE SPECIFIC THAN WE'VE PUT IN PAST NOTICES. 
          UM, AND WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, NOT HAVE AN ISSUE WHERE WE HAVE A SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH SOMEONE AND WEVE GIVEN UP, UH, TOO MUCH POTENTIAL INFORMATION. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE AND THAT WE SHOULD PROCEED WITH THAT LANGUAGE. 
          YEAH, WE HAD THIS LANGUAGE LAST TIME, RIGHT? UH, IT WAS ACTUALLY, HE ACTUALLY, IT WAS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. 
          OH, SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. 
          OKAY. 
          BUT LONGER DRAFTING IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXECUTIVE SESSION OF THAT NIGHT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY. 
          SECOND, I'M IN FAVOR. 
          AYE AYE. 
          AYE. 
          AND WE'LL NOT BE RETURNING SOME PENDING LAWSUITS. 
          I LEFT THAT OUT. 
          OKAY. 
          OKAY.
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