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TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION TODAY IS JANUARY 21ST, UM, AFTER FIVE 30.UM, AND, UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS, UM, 19 PRIMROSE ROAD.
YOU COULD COME UP, YOU CAN COME RIGHT TO THE TABLE.
AND, AND WHILE THEY APPROACH, I JUST WANT TO NOTE FOR THE PUBLIC THAT COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS AND COUNCILMAN SHEEN OUR PRESENT REMOTELY VIA ZOOM TONIGHT.
AND WE DID NOTICE DISLOCATION AND WE HAVE THREE MEMBERS PHYSICALLY PRESENT.
SO WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STATE AND TOWN LAWS.
SO MR. MRS. KADO, SO WHEN YOU TALK TALKING, IF YOU COULD JUST PULL THE MICROPHONE SO WE MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE IN, IN OUR AUDIENCE CAN HEAR YOU AS WELL.
OH, THE FLOOR IS, OH, THIS IS YOUR SHOW.
SO WE ARE J AND GINA CATO, OWNERS OF 19 PRIMOS ROAD.
UM, WEST AVENUE, WEST AVENUE, WEST
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO START, BUT, UM, JUST, OKAY.
SO WE ARE OWNERS OF 19 PRIMOS AVENUE, WEST AVENUE WEST IN WHITE PLAINS, NEW YORK.
AND, UM, WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME TROUBLES WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
UM, AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS.
WE PURCHASED THE HOUSE APRIL 25TH, 2025.
AND, UH, WE PURCHASED THE HOUSE, UNFORTUNATELY, FROM SOMEONE THAT, UH, DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THE HOME.
SO IT WAS AN EYESORE, UH, UH, ALLEGEDLY FOR LIKE 15 YEARS.
SO WHEN WE PURCHASED THE HOME, WE WERE EXCITED TO FIX IT, TO LIVE IN IT.
UH, SO THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS VERY NICE.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR OUR 11-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER AT THE TIME.
UH, ALSO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN OLDER DAUGHTER.
SHE'S 23, SHE'S ABOUT TO GET MARRIED.
SO WE WERE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT PURCHASING THIS HOME AND FIXING IT UP.
AND UNFORTUNATELY WE'VE BEEN HAVING SOME MAJOR TROUBLE.
AND, UM, WE WANTED TO COME HERE TO SEE IF MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME HELP OR, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COME OUT OF IT.
UH, SO MR. PAUL, FINER, WE ACTUALLY EMAIL, UM, EMAILED HIM AND I HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS HERE IF YOU GUYS WANT ACTUAL COPIES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
I KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS SAW THE VIDEOS.
WE'VE BEEN HERE TWO TIMES ALREADY.
WE ENDED UP POSTPONING IT, UM, FOR FUTURE RESEARCH.
UM, BUT THE COMPLAINTS THAT THEY WERE HAVING, UH, 21, UH, BLA PZI, UH, HE WAS HAVING A COMPLAINT THAT HE WAS HAVING WATER RUNOFFS.
AND, UH, THIS, WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE WITH THREE GARAGES, UH, THREE CAR GARAGES, RIGHT? TWO, TWO CAR GARAGE.
WELL, ONE OF THEM FIT TWO CARS AND THAT'S HOW WE BOUGHT THE HOUSE.
HAD A DRIVEWAY SEALED TO THE, TO THE GARAGE.
UM, AND WHEN WE PURCHASED THE HOUSE, BEAUTIFUL THREE CAR GARAGE, UH, THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, UH, TOLD US THAT WE NEEDED TO RIP OFF THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE IT WASN'T IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE OF THE TOWN.
WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT WE HAD LAWYERS THAT NEVER CAME UP.
UH, USUALLY WHEN YOU HAVE A CO FOR GARAGE, THAT'S THE SAME SEAL FOR THE DRIVEWAY TO GET INTO THE GARAGE.
UM, AFTER SPEAKING TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WE DID EVERYTHING THE WAY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WANTED.
UH, THEY SAID, WELL, THIS, WE DON'T HAVE ANY RECORD THAT IT WASN'T BILLED BEFORE 1957 SOLD.
THE GARAGE IS, THE DRIVEWAY IS GONNA NEED A PERMIT.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE THOUGHT IT WAS GONNA BE GRANDFATHERED IN.
THAT'S CLEAR ENOUGH SINCE 1975.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE WENT ON THE AERIALS OF THE, THE AREA.
SO IT IS BEEN THERE FOR, YOU KNOW, 50 PLUS YEARS THAT WE KNOW OF.
WHEN WE GOT, WHEN THE PRIOR OWNER GOT THE GARAGE, THE CO FOR THE GARAGE, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TOLD US, OH, THIS SEEMED TO BE AN OVERLOOK OF THE BUILDING.
WE SHOULD HAVE GRANT THE, THE CO FOR THE DRIVEWAY THE SAME WAY, THE SAME TIME WE GRANTED THE GARAGE.
SO SHE SAID, APPLY FOR THE PERMIT.
SHE TOLD US IT WAS GONNA BE DENIED.
WHEN WE CAME TO THE VARIANCE TO COME HERE FOR THE ZONING BOARD, IT WAS A CIRCUS.
IF YOU SEE THE VIDEOS, IT WAS, IT WAS RIDICULOUS.
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NOW, TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UM, WE WERE NOT WELCOME IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY NUMBER 17, WHICH IS, UM, WHAT'S HIS NAME? STUART.COULD YOU, COULD YOU PLEASE REFRAIN FROM SAYING THE NAMES AT THIS POINT? JUST BECAUSE WE FACE THEY'RE HERE.
SO IT WAS 17 AND UM, LITERALLY THE FIRST TIME WE WENT TO OPEN THE DOOR, HE CHASED US IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
HE STARTED SCREAMING AT US, WHO ARE YOU, WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN THE PROPERTY? AND WE DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS.
HE WAS LIKE, OH, THAT'S THE NEIGHBOR.
OH, I WANNA SEE, I WANNA SEE ALL THE DOCUMENTS.
I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE THE OWNER.
AND WE WERE LIKE, OH MY GOD, WHAT, WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE? UM, THIS WAS BACK IN APRIL
SO THE BEHIND STORY IS THAT HE WANTED TO PURCHASE THE HOUSE.
HE WANTED TO FLIP IT AND IT WASN'T SOLD TO HIM.
SO HE SEEMED TO BE VERY BITTER.
UM, BUT WE DIDN'T THINK ANYTHING OF IT.
AFTER THAT, IT ESCALATED, WE WENT TO THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
ACTUALLY MR. PO WAS THERE TO THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION, UM, MEETING, UM, THE HILLTOP.
AND HE STARTED SCREAMING AT ME, 17 IN FRONT OF EVERYBODY.
UM, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE NOT LIVING THERE.
YOUR NAME IS NOT ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT ARE YOUR INTENTIONS TO LIVE THERE? YOUR HUSBAND WAS SUPPOSED TO DO CERTAIN THINGS.
AND AT THAT MOMENT I GOT INVOLVED.
'CAUSE THIS WAS ABOUT THE FIFTH TO SIXTH TIME THAT HE HAD GONE INTO MY HUSBAND'S FACE SCREAMING AT HIM ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HE WANTED US TO DO IN OUR PROPERTY.
AND, UM, AT THAT MOMENT I WAS LIKE, LET ME STEP IN 'CAUSE WE NEED TO KEEP PEACE HERE.
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH A MAN COULD DEAL WITH ANOTHER MAN SCREAMING IN HIS FACE.
UM, HE WAS LITERALLY PULLED FROM HIS WIFE OUT OF THE MEETING AND EVERYBODY WAS LIKE, WHAT'S WRONG WITH HIM? RED BLOOD EYE RED IN ALL HIS BODY.
AND WE WERE LIKE, OH MY GOD, WHAT HAPPENED? SO I TOLD HIM, LET PLEASE LET IT BE THE LAST TIME THAT YOU ADDRESS US THIS WAY.
AND EVEN YOUR CHILDREN SHOULDN'T BE SPOKEN TO THAT WAY.
UM, HE WAS PULLED FROM HIS WIFE.
HIS WIFE TOOK HIM OUT OF THE, THE ROOM.
AND EVER SINCE THEN, HE MADE IT VERY CLEAR TO US THAT HE WAS GONNA MAKE OUR LIFE IMPOSSIBLE.
WHEN WE HAD THE FIRST MEETING IN THE ZONING BOARD, THEIR EXCUSE WAS THAT THERE WAS A RUNOFF WATER RUNOFF COMING IN THE, IN HIS PROPERTY.
BUT IN JUNE, WHICH I HAVE THE DOCUMENT FOUR, HE MADE A COMPLAINT THAT WE WERE AT ZERO, UM, ZERO SETBACK.
SO WE NEEDED TO GET A PERMIT FOR OUR DRIVEWAY.
21 IS ACTUALLY AT NEGATIVE ZERO SETBACK IN HIS PROPERTY.
HE'S ACTUALLY IN OUR PROPERTY.
THE SECOND THING WAS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO FIND OUT THAT IN 2004 HE PUT GOBBLE STONES GOING DOWN.
UM, HIS PROPERTY DIVIDING HIS PROPERTY.
IN OURS, WHEN HE PUT THE COBBLESTONES DOWN, HE ACTUALLY MADE THE RUNOFF HIMSELF BECAUSE NOW HIS PROPERTY IS LOWER THAN OURS.
BUT THE CAVIAR IS THAT IN JULY, AND I HAVE THE VIDEO FOR IT, HE CALLED MY HUSBAND TELLING HIM, IF YOU GUYS DON'T RIP OFF THAT DRIVEWAY, I'M GONNA GO TO THE SUPREME COURT.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE WORST NEIGHBOR EVER.
UM, YOU, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HAPPY.
YOU NEED TO RIP, RIP OFF THE DRIVEWAY.
'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO PUT MY SNOW.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR LOOK BECAUSE HIS WIFE WAS ALSO SCREAMING IN THE BACKGROUND.
WE DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE TO PUT OUR SNOW.
NOW WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT IN WRITING.
'CAUSE WHEN HE CAME TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THAT'S WHAT HE TOLD THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
I DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO PUT MY SNOW.
CAN I ASK YOU SORT OF LIKE A QUESTION? YEAH.
UM, UM, WOULD IT, AND I'M JUST ASKING JOE, UH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE QUE THE ISSUE IS THERE'S A FEW THINGS.
THEY DIDN'T RULE IN YOUR FAVOR.
THEY, IT, THERE HASN'T BEEN A RULING YET.
SO WOULD IT MAKE SENSE? YOU KNOW, AND I'M JUST THINKING SORT OF OUT LOUD.
UH, UM, MY SUGGESTION MAY NOT MAKE SENSE, BUT WHAT IF WE HAD A MEETING AND WE, YOU KNOW, I ATTEND MM-HMM
WE INVITE ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR COMMISSIONER OF, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, PLANNING THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
AND THEN WE INVITE YOUR NEIGHBORS AND THEN WE TRY IDENTIFYING ALL THE ISSUES THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WE HAVE.
AND THEN SEE, YOU KNOW, LEGALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT COULD BE DONE, YOU KNOW, AND THEN CALM DOWN SORT OF LIKE THE SITUATION.
YOU KNOW, AS NEIGHBORS AND FRIENDS BECAUSE, BECAUSE MY, WE GET, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINTS FROM OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS OVER THE YEARS, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS.
YOU KNOW, HAVING PROBLEMS WITH OTHER NEIGHBORS.
UH, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT'S LIKE ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS, YOU KNOW, WE GET.
SO, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY LIKE TO SIT DOWN,
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UM, AND, YOU KNOW, TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, JOE AND SEE IF WE COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, TRY FIGURING OUT WAYS WHERE EVERYBODY COULD, YOU KNOW, RESPECT EACH OTHER.AND, UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, LEGAL, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM IS LIKE IF THE ZONING BOARD, WE CAN, THE TOWN BOARD IS PROHIBITED BY LAW FROM TELLING THE ZONING BOARD WHAT TO DO BECAUSE THE ZONING BOARD IS INDEPENDENT.
AND OUR ETHICS LAW SAY WE CAN'T TELL THE ZONING BOARD OR THE PLANNING BOARD YOU HAVE TO DO THIS OR THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE LIKE A INFORMAL MEETING, YOU KNOW, WE COULD FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WE COULD FIGURE OUT SOME COMPROMISE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I'M WILLING TO BASICALLY YEAH.
SIT DOWN WITH EVERYBODY AND, UM, AND SEE IF I COULD, UM, YOU KNOW, HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, HELP, YOU KNOW, MAKE EVERYBODY'S LIFE BETTER.
I, I THINK THAT WE, WE TRY TO DO THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WHEN I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH 21, YOU KNOW, I TOLD HIM, WE'LL GIVE YOU BACK WHATEVER'S YOUR, YOU KNOW, WE DID THE SURVEY.
I SAID, WE'LL GIVE YOU WHATEVER'S OWED TO YOU, WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU.
AND SINCE DAY ONE WE'VE BEEN DISCRIMINATED, YOU KNOW, IF YOU LOOK ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU SEE WHO'S ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DON'T FIT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
JUST BEING HONEST WITH YOU, BEING DISCRIMINATED, I FEEL LIKE I'M BEING, YOU KNOW, TALKED TO LIKE I'M A CHILD.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE'VE COME WITH PEACE AND WE'VE TOLD THEM THAT 17 AND 21 AND LITERALLY I ALMOST WENT TO JAIL.
'CAUSE I, 'CAUSE I 'CAUSE OF THE, THE HARASSMENT IS UP TO HERE.
WELL THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT.
MY GOAL, MY GOAL IS NOT, FIRST OF ALL, WE'RE NOT GONNA TOLERATE DISCRIMINATION.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT'S GOING ON IS TO FIND OUT WE'RE NOT.
BUT THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, MY FAILING IS, IF YOU LIKE, WOULD GIVE ME, YOU KNOW, UH, A CHANCE TO PARTICIPATE IN A MEETING, I'LL, YOU KNOW, I'LL, WHATEVER.
BUT THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR A YEAR, MR. FINE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, AND NOTHING HAS BEEN RESOLVED, BUT I, WE'VE BEEN GOING, WE'VE INVESTED SO MUCH MONEY IN THIS PROPERTY.
WE'VE LOST SO MUCH MONEY AND IT'S FRUSTRATING.
BUT I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP ON EVERY COMPLAINT THAT YOU HAVE.
AND I'LL, I WILL DO WHATEVER I CAN IT TO MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER.
SO WE DID GO TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, ACTUALLY WITH YOUR LIAISON.
UM, WHAT'S HER NAME? MARIA WITH, WITH MARIA.
SHE ACTUALLY TOOK US TO THE TORONTO GREENBURG.
'CAUSE WE FILED A, A LEGAL REPORT ON DISCRIMINATION.
I'M SAYING YOU SAID THE TOWN OF GREENBURG? THE TOWN OF WESTCHESTER.
THE TOWN OF COUNTY OF WEST COUNTY WESTCHESTER.
WHAT DEPARTMENT WAS THAT? THE DEPARTMENT OF.
DO YOU HAVE THAT DOCUMENT THERE? I THINK IT WAS A HUMAN RIGHTS.
BECAUSE WHEN I SPOKE TO, WHEN YOU EMAILED ME A WHILE BACK THEN MARIA SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, I SHOULD BASICALLY NOT DO ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, AND UNTIL THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
BUT THE THING IS, I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT ANYTIME, ANYBODY, NO MATTER WHO, WHENEVER I GET IT, WHEN ANYBODY HAS A COMPLAINT, I WILL ALWAYS FOLLOW UP ON IT.
I'M BASICALLY SAYING, I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE UPSET.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO BE MISERABLE.
I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL HARASSED.
SO THE THING IS, ALL I WANT TO DO IS, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE EVERYBODY TO OF COURSE, LIVE IN PEACE AND WORK NICELY.
AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TIME, YOU KNOW, I GOT THE EMAILS FROM YOU WAS IN JULY MONTHS AGO, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
BUT THE THING IS, JUST LET ME KNOW ALL THE ISSUES AND THEN IF YOU'RE WILLING TO SIT DOWN IN A MEETING, I'LL TRY SETTING IT UP.
AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF WHILE WE COULD DO, YOU COULD COME BACK AND AT LEAST I TRIED.
WE TRIED AT, AT, AT THIS POINT, WE'RE NOT SATISFIED.
WE'RE VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY WELCOMED US WITH OPEN ARMS. BUT THEY BASICALLY, WE'VE BEEN IN DEAF, DEAF EARS.
BUT RIGHT NOW YOU, YOU SHUT, CAN I FINISH MY THOUGHT? YEAH, BUT SORRY.
I'M VERY DISGUSTED WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE, I FEEL LIKE WE ARE NOT BEING TREATED EQUALLY.
WE'VE DID EVERY REPORT THAT WE CAN.
WE'VE DONE EVERYTHING FOR HARASSMENT, BULLYING.
THERE'S NO, NO ONE THAT'S HELPING US.
WHAT WAS THE ISSUE? THAT TIRED? WHAT WAS THE ISSUE THAT YOU HAD WITH AN, SOME KIND OF AN INSPECTOR FROM THE COUNTY? WHAT WAS THAT ABOUT? COULD YOU GO INTO THAT APARTMENT WITH THE INSPECTOR, WITH THE COUNTY? THERE WAS SOMETHING IN AN EMAIL.
SO SOMEBODY ENTERED YOUR HOME? YES.
SO SOMEONE ENTERED OUR HOME AND DID NOT, UM, IDENTIFY, ANNOUNCE THEMSELVES.
THEY DIDN'T IDENTIFY THEMSELVES.
AND THEY WENT DID YOU, DID YOU GIVE PERMISSION? NO, WE DID NOT GIVE ANY PERMISSION.
SO, YEAH, I KNOW, I KNOW THE STORY.
SO BASICALLY NUMBER 17 HAD ONE OF HIS FRIENDS THAT WORKED FOR THE COUNTY.
'CAUSE WE FOUND OUT HE HAD SCARE MY GUYS AWAY.
'CAUSE HE KNOWS WHEN MY CAR IS THERE, HE STAYS AWAY.
SO MY GUYS TELL ME THE MINUTE I LEFT, THEY CALLED ME ON THE PHONE, THE PHONE AND TOLD ME MR. PONYTAIL 17 CAME HARASSING THE GUYS AND BOUGHT SOMEBODY FROM THE COUNTY.
AND THEY STARTED INTERROGATING
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MY GUYS AND STARTED TAKING PICTURES OF THE PLACE.NOW WE HAVE ALL THE, ALL THE PERMITS YOU CAN CHECK WITH, WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
SO, SO THAT'S HOW EXTREME THAT THIS IS GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE I'M, I'M JUST AT THE TIP TOP OF JUST LOSING IT.
SO, SO SOMEBODY CAME FROM THE, I JUST WANT TO UNDERSTAND, SOMEONE CAME FROM THE COUNTY THAT SOMEONE THAT NUMBER 17 KNEW SOMEONE, AN INSPECTOR, QUOTE UNQUOTE.
HE DIDN'T SHOW ANY ID, BUT HE WENT IN THERE LIKE HE WAS SOMEONE AND LITERALLY, YOU KNOW, SCARED MY GUYS WITH ANY TYPE OF CREDENTIALS, ANYTHING TO, DIDN'T SHOW ANYTHING.
ANY AND YOU WERE ON THE VAN, ON THE COUNTY? NO.
HE DIDN'T WANT ANY WHEN HE WAS TAKING PICTURES, WAS HE PICTURES? NO.
THE HOUSE DOESN'T HAVE WIFI OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
YOU WERE NOT HOME AT THE TIME? NO.
I'M TRYING TO GET AN ANSWER TO A QUESTION.
WHEN HE WAS TAKING PICTURES, WAS HE TAKING PICTURES IN WHILE HE WAS INSIDE YOUR HOUSE? YES.
THE INTERIOR OF THE HOUSE? YES.
HE WAS TAKING, TAKING PICTURES OF THE, UH, MY GUY'S CARS AND HE WAS TAKING PICTURES OF THE INSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
WHEN YOU SAY MY GUYS, WHO ARE MY GUYS? THE CONTRACTORS.
DID YOU REPORT IT TO THE GREENBERG POLICE? YEAH.
AND I'M SORRY, UH, FRANCIS, DID YOU ASK, UH, IF THEY HAD VIDEO? IF THERE'S LIKE VIDEO OR WE DO NOT.
SO THERE'S, THERE'S THE HOUSES ON THE CONSTRUCTION, SO THERE'S NO WIFI THERE.
LIKE SOMETIMES THE POLICE MAY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, I'M SURE THE NEIGHBORS, THEY HAVE CAMERAS.
BUT THE NEIGHBORS DON'T TALK TO US.
NO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT, 'CAUSE THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF NEGATIV.
I'M JUST WONDERING IF, IF I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE, HOW THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, CHECK UP.
BUT I'M WONDERING IF THEY WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY OF, OF, OF VERIFYING.
BECAUSE THERE COULD HAVE BEEN A, IF THERE'S A CON COUNTY EMPLOYEE, THAT COUNTY EMPLOYEE MAY HAVE BEEN ACTING WITHOUT SURE.
OR THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE COUNTY.
SO WE FOUND OUT WHO THE GUY WAS.
DID YOU, UH, REPORT IT TO THE COUNTY? YES, WE DID.
WE ACTUALLY CAME INTO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BECAUSE WE KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE.
AND WE SPOKE TO THE DEPUTY AND SHE CALLED THE COUNTY, UH, THE TOWN OF WESTCHESTER RIGHT AWAY.
AND THEN WE FOUND OUT WHO THE GUY WAS AND HE WAS LIKE, OH, I'M SORRY THAT I DIDN'T SHOW, UM, THAT I DIDN'T SHOW ID.
BUT WHEN WE WENT TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO SHOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALSO FOLLOWED UP WITH THE COUNTY AND THE GUY SAID, YES, STEWART CALLED AND TOLD ME TO COME IN.
AND THAT'S IN THE POLICE REPORT? YEP.
WELL MAYBE YOU COULD PROVIDE THE TOWN BOARD WITH A COPY OF THE I HAVE THEM.
MAYBE JOE, WOULD YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT? SURE.
AND THEN WE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT? I STILL THINK, YEAH, THAT WAS THE SECOND TIME.
THE FIR HE, WE HAD SOME PEOPLE CLEANING.
UM, 'CAUSE UNFORTUNATELY THE GUY WAS A HOER.
THE GUY YOU MEAN THE FORMER OWNER? THE FORMER OWNER, YES.
UM, SO WE HAD, WE HIRED SOME PEOPLE TO COME IN AND CLEAN NUMBER.
17 CALLS THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
OH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE DOING IN THERE.
AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT CAME IN AND PUT A STOP ORDER IN OUR HOUSE.
AND WE WERE NOT EVEN DOING, UM, CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION IN THE HOUSE NOW TO DEFEND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
THEY, THEY DID SEE SOME GARBAGE, BUT THAT GARBAGE WAS PROBABLY THERE FOR LIKE 15 YEARS OUTSIDE AROUND THE HOUSE.
THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DID COME AND RIP OFF THAT STOP WORK ORDER THEMSELVES, BUT IT TOOK LIKE A MONTH AND A HALF.
SO WE LOST SO MUCH TIME TO DO, YOU KNOW, TO GET PERMITS TO GO THROUGH SO MANY THINGS.
LET ME GIVE YOU THE POLICE REPORTS.
AND I'M ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY, THEY'VE SHARED IS YOU ARE NOT THE OWNER.
UM, WE DO HAVE THE DEED AND WE HAVE GIVEN THE DEED TO THE ZONING BOARD.
UM, AND ALSO THE, THE, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS IT, WE HAVE THE DEED RIGHT NOW IN A TRUST.
WE WILL PUT IT IN OUR NAME, BUT IT'S NOT IN OUR NAME RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE HAVE ALL AUTHORITY TO WORK AND WE HAVE AFFIDAVITS AND EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED TO WORK IN THE HOUSE.
UM, THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS HAPPENED THAT THEY PUT A STOP WORK ORDER, 17 ACTUALLY RAN ALL THE WAY TO THE GAS STATION WHERE THE WORKERS WERE.
'CAUSE THEY WENT TO GET SOMETHING TO DRINK, GOES TO THE GAS STATION AND STARTS HARASSING THE PEOPLE THAT WERE CLEANING THE HOUSE.
I MEAN, IT'S GOTTEN, IT'S GOTTEN TO ANOTHER LEVEL AND WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY HELP FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW.
SO WE'VE BEEN TRYING, WE'VE, WE, WE'VE, I WENT TO, WE'VE WENT TO EVERY RESOURCE AND IT'S JUST BEEN A DEAD END.
AND THEY TOLD US TO COME HERE.
WE SAID, WE'LL COME HERE TONIGHT.
HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET A SOLUTION RESOLUTION BECAUSE IT'S JUST SO, JUST, JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME POINTERS.
AND, AND I APPRECIATE YOU PAUL, FINER FOR WANTING TO DO THAT MEETING.
UM, THESE, THESE ARE, THESE ARE THE REPORTS.
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REPORTS.AND LET ME ALSO GIVE YOU THE HOUSING DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINT THAT WE, WE DID.
UM, WHAT WAS THE HOUSING DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINT? NOT, NOT, NOT ONLY THAT, YOU KNOW, 17 AND 19, THEY'RE SIT ON THE BOARD OF THE HILLTOP ASSOCIATION.
AND YOU KNOW, ONE'S THE PRESIDENT AND ONE'S THE VICE PRESIDENT.
SO THEY SAY THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE THIS INSIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE WORD I WANNA SAY? THIS POWER OVER US.
WELL, IT'S VERY SAD TO HEAR, HEAR THAT.
THE THING IS THAT, UM, ALSO THE SITUATION IS THAT, UM, WHO IS THAT? THEY SAID THAT OUR HOUSE DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S HOUSES BECAUSE WE GOT ZERO SETBACK.
MY NEIGHBOR 21, HE'S AT NEGATIVE ZERO SETBACK.
AND I'M SORRY, 17 AND 21 ACTUALLY NEVER REPORTED HIS, HIS DRIVEWAY.
BEFORE YOU, BUT I'M SORRY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY HE NEVER REPORTED HIS DRIVEWAY? HE OBVIOUSLY HAS A DRIVEWAY.
BUT ACCORDING TO THEM, WE NEED A CO FOR THE DRIVEWAY.
AND HE ACTUALLY DREW IN A DRIVEWAY THAT WASN'T THERE WHEN WE STARTED COMPARING, UM, TIMES THAT WENT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
UM, HE HAS DONE A LOT OF ILLEGAL THINGS IN HIS PROPERTY WITHOUT REPORTING.
AND YOU COULD SPEAK TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ABOUT THAT.
'CAUSE WE GOT THE FOILS LEGALLY AND FOUND THIS OUT.
WE ALSO FOUND OUT, I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA, IT'S OKAY.
UM, NINE PROPERTIES IN, AND WE HAVE PICTURES OF THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF MAYBE 15 HOUSES.
NINE OF THEM HAD ZERO SETBACK, NINE OF THEM.
AND THEY ALSO COMPLAINED THAT OUR DRIVEWAY IS A CURVE.
AND IT SHOULDN'T BE A CURVE 'CAUSE NO OTHER, UH, HOUSE HAS A CURVED DRIVEWAY.
AND I COULD SHOW YOU THE, THE WRITING, THE, HOW DO YOU CALL THE, UM, THE SURVEY? MM-HMM
UH, THERE'S AT LEAST THREE HOUSES RIGHT IN THE BLOCK THAT HAVE CURVED DRIVEWAYS.
IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE, UM, THE, THE WATER FLOW.
THE, UM, I, I GET NERVOUS THE NIGHT RUN.
UM, AND WHEN WE SPOKE TO THE OLD NEIGHBOR, WE HAVE A LETTER FROM THE OLD NA FROM THE PRIOR NEIGHBOR, OWNER, OWNER SAYING THAT'S FUNNY THAT HE'S COMPLAINING.
AND WE HAVE IT ALSO NOTARIZED FROM THE PRIOR OWNER STATING, IT'S FUNNY THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, UM, RUNOFFS.
IT NEVER HAD TO DO WITH MY DRIVEWAY.
I ACTUALLY USED TO GO TO HIS PROPERTY TO UNCLOG HIS, UM, HIS FLOOR, HIS DRAIN, HIS DRAIN.
AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ALSO KNEW THAT BECAUSE HIS BASEMENT USED TO GET FLOODED, BUT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FACT THAT I HAVE A DRIVER THERE.
NOT ONLY THAT, WHEN WE INVESTIGATED WITH THE TOWN OF WHEN WE, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, AND WE CHECKED THE DEPUTY THERE, SHE SAID IN 60 YEARS THAT 7 21 AND 17 HAVE BEEN LIVING THERE.
NOT ONE COMPLAINT OF WATER OVERFLOW.
ALL OF A SUDDEN THERE'S WATER.
'CAUSE WE WENT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND WE FOUND OUT THERE HASN'T BEEN ONE COMPLAINT.
AND IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE AS SOON AS WE MOVED IN, THERE WAS A WHOLE BUNCH OF COMPLAINTS.
SO IT DOESN'T HAVE TO DO IT THAT THEY CAN'T DO IT.
IT'S JUST THAT THEY WANT WHAT THEY WANT WHEN THEY WANT IT.
SO WHEN YOU PURCHASED THE, THE HOUSE, YOU HAD AN INSPECTOR, YOU HAD AN INSPECTION.
AND WHAT WAS THE RESULT? YOU HAVE THAT REPORT.
DID ANY OF THESE THINGS COME UP IN THE REPORT? NO.
SO THIS IS AN INSPECTION THAT WAS ACCEPTED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBERG.
SO I DON'T SEE WHERE I, I'M JUST CONFUSED HOW NEIGHBORS WOULD HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING.
WELL, THE THING IS THAT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY DO HAVE AUTHORITY.
BECAUSE NOW WE'RE GOING ON A THIRD MEETING IN THE ZONING BOARD.
AND WE CAME IN ALONE, MY HUSBAND AND I, AND THEY HAD LIKE 20 PEOPLE HERE WHILE I WAS TRYING TO SHARE THE ZONING BOARD MADE IT VERY CLEAR YOU COULD WATCH THE VIDEOS.
I MEAN, IT'S PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE.
STICK TO THE PARKING STICK TO THE DRIVEWAY.
THEY TALKED ABOUT A CHARACTER THAT WE'RE LYING THAT WE'RE THIS, THEY HEARD THEM FOR OVER AN HOUR WHILE THEY WERE ABUSING US.
TALKING ABOUT STUFF THAT WE DID AND WHERE WE, AND WHICH WAS MOST OF IT A LIE.
WHERE DO WE LIVE NOW? OF COURSE WE DON'T LIVE THERE.
THEY'RE DOING THIS, THEY'RE DOING THAT.
WHEN I STARTED SHARING THE HARASSMENT WE'VE BEEN THROUGH, THEY ALL STARTED LAUGHING.
AND THE ZONING BOARD JUST LEFT IT LIKE THAT TO THE POINT THAT IT GOT IT, IT BECAME SUCH A CIRCUS THAT THEY HAD TO STOP THE WHOLE MEETING.
WE WERE HERE FOR AN HOUR AND A HALF.
YOU, YOU COULD LOOK AT THE VIDEOS.
THE SECOND VIDEO, THE SECOND TIME WE WERE HERE, IT WAS THE SAME THING.
AND AT THAT MOMENT, I GOT A LITTLE BIT BOLD.
I'M NOT GONNA, I'M NOT GONNA SAY.
AND I TURNED AROUND AND I SAID, IF YOU LAUGH, YOU CAN LEAVE THE ROOM.
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BECAUSE I DON'T THINK DISCRIMINATION, RACISM, BULLYING, AND HARASSMENT IS ANYTHING TO LAUGH AT.WE GONNA HAVE THIS HOUSE FOR A YEAR.
NOW WE'VE HAD A NUMBER ISSUES.
WE THOUGHT THAT AT LEAST THREE MONTHS WE PRE WE REPAIR.
'CAUSE WE HAVE SPOKEN TO CONTRACTORS.
WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO LIVE IN IT.
JUST DRIPPING CREDIT CARDS PILING UP.
FIRST OF ALL, I KNOW BECAUSE I'M IN CONTACT WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, WITH THE COMMISSIONER, PLANNING.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE, WE'VE HAD OTHER SITUATIONS, YOU KNOW, LIKE THIS WHERE PEOPLE FAIL THAT EVERYTHING TAKES, YOU KNOW, A LONG TIME.
PEOPLE GET REALLY ANGRY, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE BOARDS.
AND, UM, THEY SOMETIMES PEOPLE FEEL, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN ALSO DISCRIMINATED, NOT, YOU KNOW, UH, RACIAL DISCRIMINATION, BUT THEY FEEL THAT THEY'VE BEEN PICKED ON OR TREATED UNFAIRLY.
BECAUSE I, I'VE BEEN GETTING THIS FOR, FOR YEARS.
SO ALL I, I SORT OF FEEL, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS I'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU.
I'D LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, YOU KNOW, WHO BASICALLY, UM, COULD, UH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT IT, ANALYZE ALL THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE, AND THEN, AND THEN WE COULD BASICALLY GET OPINIONS WHAT THE TOWN CAN DO OR, YOU KNOW, OR CAN'T DO.
BECAUSE WE MAY HAVE A CODE THAT WE, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY OF, YOU KNOW, LOOKING THE OTHER WAY ON.
BUT I'D LIKE, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO GET MORE RESEARCH.
WHO'S THEY? NO, I'M SAYING NO.
WHO'S THEY? I JUST DIDN'T TRYING TO FOLLOW YOU.
WHO'S THEY? NO, I'M SAYING WE MAY HAVE BUILDING CODES MM-HMM
AND WE MIGHT, EVEN THOUGH WE MAY PERSONALLY AGREE WITH YOU, WE MAY, WE ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TELL THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY.
BUT IT WAS ALREADY, I INSPECTED, I'M, I'M A CONFUSED BECAUSE WHAT I'M SAYING NO, I CAN EXPLAIN IT TO US BECAUSE I WHAT YOU SAYING A LITTLE CONFUSED.
WHAT, BUT I THINK THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IT'S BEEN VERY HELPFUL WITH US.
THEY HAVE BEEN, THEY HAVE BEEN TELLING YOU, JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
DEPARTMENT HAS, WE'VE BEEN LITERALLY, I'VE BEEN IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND I'VE NEVER BEEN IN A BUILDING APARTMENT SO MUCH AS, AS I'VE BEEN IN THIS LAST YEAR.
YOU KNOW? I KNOW, I KNOW THEIR KIDS.
SO, SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A JOKE.
BUT, BUT, UM, THE BUILDING APARTMENT TOLD US WE DON'T HAVE TO PUT A A, A DRAIN.
THAT SHOULD BE GRANDFATHERED IN.
SO THEN YOU SAY THE WAIT, SAY, WAIT.
I, WELL, EXCUSE ME SIR, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY.
SO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS TELLING YOU ONE THING, AND YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE ZONING BOARD IS, IS NOT UP UPHOLDING WHAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS SAYING.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE A CERTAIN, CERTAIN DEGREE? YES.
THAT SEEMS LIKE A, SHOULD I STILL HAVE TIME TO MAKE THEIR FINAL DETERMINATION IF I HEAR CORRECTLY? THAT'S STILL ONGOING.
I, I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE ISSUES HERE.
SO ONE IS OF COURSE DISCRIMINATION IS NOT WELCOME ANYWHERE WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBERG.
I'D BE WILLING TO SIT WITH YOU AND ANYONE YOU SEE FIT TO HELP THIS BE RESOLVED AS LONG AS YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE DOING SO.
BECAUSE IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE SITTING IN THAT SORT OF SITUATION, I WOULD COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND MM-HMM
AND WOULDN'T PUSH THAT ON YOU.
UM, BUT ALSO MAYBE WE NEED TO REVIEW OUR POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AT A BOARD LEVEL.
WHAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO BE SAID IN PUBLIC ABOUT A SPECIFIC PERSON, BECAUSE WE REALLY SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON THE ISSUES AT HAND.
AND NOT CHARACTERS, PERSONAL ATTACKS, THEN PERSONAL PERSONALITIES BEHIND IT.
BUT, UM, IF YOU'RE WAITING ON ANYTHING FROM TOWN EMPLOYEES THEMSELVES MM-HMM.
WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE IT WORK TO GET YOU ALL THE INFORMATION AND ITEMS YOU NEED TO PROCEED.
I THINK THAT'S WHERE PAUL WAS GOING, RIGHT.
THAT IF A TOWN OFFICIAL IS MISSING SOMETHING, AN EMPLOYEE LIKE WITHIN THE TOWN, I KNOW THAT WILL WORK TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN GREAT WITH US.
UM, AND I I JUST WANNA ASK YOU A QUESTION.
I WANNA MAKE SURE I, I MAY BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT NOW.
SCHOOL ED'S DIFFERENT GUY, RIGHT? YEAH, ED.
UM, THE SECOND TIME WE WERE HERE FOR THE ZONING BOARD, THIS IS WHY WE COULD BE A LITTLE BIT RELUCTANT TO A MR. PAUL FINER.
UM, 'CAUSE WE DID, I WATCHED THE MEETINGS BY THE WAY.
SO THAT DAY, THE SECOND TIME, ONE ZONING BOARD, WE STAYED HERE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE WANNA SEE WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, WHEN WE LEFT, THAT DAY WAS NO DECISION.
OKAY? NUMBER 17 STAYED LIKE WHERE THAT YOUNG LADY IS.
WE GET UP, WE PASS BY NUMBER 17 AND HE'S LAUGHING IN OUR FACE, OKAY? MM-HMM
WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE VIDEO AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS PROBABLY GONNA DO A GOOD JOB ON IT.
WE GO OUTSIDE AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE LIKE, OH MY GOD, NOW, YOU KNOW, NOW WHAT? AND I'M TALKING TO MY MOM.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE THINKING OF GIVING THIS HOUSE TO MY DAUGHTER THAT'S GETTING MARRIED MARCH 8TH.
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AND, UH, HE WAITS TILL WE GO OUTSIDE.HE'S SITTING IN HIS CAR, HE DRIVES RIGHT IN FRONT OF US, OPENS THE WINDOW AND STARTS LAUGHING AT US AND DRIVES AWAY.
AND HE'S, HE'S REALLY GIVEN ME ANOTHER LENGTH OF PATIENCE.
OKAY? I'M A PASTOR IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
MY HUSBAND IS A CHAPLAIN, OKAY? I, WE DO A LOT OF CHARITY FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UM, TOYS, ALL THAT STUFF.
WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS AS, WOW, GOD IS BLESSING US, RIGHT? WE HAVE A HOUSE.
WE ARE, WE ARE DOING A MILLION THINGS.
AND I KEEP ON SAYING THAT I GET CU CUT OFF BY ONE OF THE S SONY BOARDS THAT HAVE NOT WATCHED THE VIDEO, THAT HAVE NOT WATCHED ANY OF THE PAPERWORK OR READ ANY OF THE STUFF OF US TELLING THEM, HEY, LISTEN, WE'RE JUST LIKE THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU CAN'T TELL ME THAT WE'RE NOT, WE JUST FOUND OUT I JUST GAVE TO HIM NINE.
I DON'T WANNA THROW ANYBODY UNDER THE BUS.
OKAY? NINE HOUSES THAT ARE ZERO SETBACK, NINE.
NINE, THREE HOUSES THAT HAVE CURVED DRIVEWAYS.
UM, IT, IT'S HORRIBLE THAT ALL OF THESE HOUSES NEED TO GET CITED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DO OUR INVESTIGATION AND ALMOST TELL ON THEM, WHICH WE DON'T WANT TO DO.
THAT'S THE WORST THING WE WANNA DO.
AND IT WAS NOTHING THAT WE DID.
SO IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT, MR. LAWYER, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE SITTING AROUND WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU GOTTA HAVE A SERIOUS AMOUNT OF PATIENCE.
THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO SAY YOU, IF YOU FEEL IT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE, WE CAN DO IT WITH YOU.
WE WE'RE, WE ARE REALLY MEASURES TO KEEP THE PIECE MM-HMM
AND WE, IN THAT VIDEO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS SAW THE VIDEO, WE, WE CONTINUE TO TELL 21, IF YOU ARE ON OUR PROPERTY, WE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT'S YOURS.
WE WILL GIVE YOU WHAT'S YOURS.
ALTHOUGH HE CHOSE TO PUT GOBBLE STONE AND LEAVE PART OF HIS PROPERTY IN OURS.
WHY DID HE DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT HAPPENED IN 2004 CONFIRMED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
MR. AND MRS. KADO, UH, CAME TO MY OFFICE AND THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE ALL OF THE INFORMATION.
BECAUSE I ASKED THEM TO FOIL EACH HOUSE INDIVIDUALLY SO THAT THAT'S WHERE SHE GOT THE INFORMATION.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S VERY SPECIFIC.
AND, AND I, I KNOW THAT IT WAS ANNOYING FOR EACH FOIL, BUT IT WAS VERY IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO HAVE A FOIL FOR EACH HOME.
TO SHOW EACH INDIVIDUAL, UM, THAT WAS NOT CITED FOR THE SAME SITING THAT THEY'RE GIVING YOU.
AND WE DO HAVE A BUILDING INSPECTOR, DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR, UM, AVAILABLE IF YOU, IF IF YOU, WE WOULD NEED TO HEAR FROM HER.
BUT I THINK, UH, TOWN ATTORNEY, I THINK YOU HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE.
UM, BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, I'M SPEECHLESS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHAT WORDS TO SAY BECAUSE THERE ARE, THERE AREN'T ANY WORDS TO SAY TO MAKE THE SITUATION ANY BETTER UNLESS WE RESOLVE THE SITUATION AS IT SHOULD BE RESOLVED.
BUT I DO WANNA APOLOGIZE AS YOU SHOULD BE VERY EXCITED AND WELCOME YOU AND COMING INTO GREENBURG AND COMING INTO THIS TOWN THAT YOU SHOULD NOT HAVE TO ENDURE THESE TYPE OF ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE TRY TO PRIDE OURSELVES ON ELIMINATING ANY TYPE OF DIS ANY TYPE OF DISCRIMINATION.
AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE HEARING THIS IS JUST VERY SAD AND VERY DIFFICULT.
UM, SO AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART BECAUSE NO RESIDENT SHOULD NOT FEEL UNCOMFORTABLE LIVING IN A HOME THAT THEY PURCHASE.
THIS IS WHY WE COME TO GREENBURG TO LIVE BEAUTIFULLY, LIVE IN A PLACE THAT WE CAN TRULY ENJOY EACH OTHER, ENJOY OUR NEIGHBORS.
AND TO HEAR THIS, IT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST SAD.
AND, AND I JUST CAN'T BELIEVE THAT I'M HEARING THIS.
I, I JUST WANNA SAY THIS, JUST SO THAT WE'RE, UM, WE'RE TRYING TO OVERCOME THEIR COMPLAINTS.
WHY THEY HERE, THEY SAY WE SHOULDN'T GET A ZERO VARIANCE.
AND, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, UM, JUNE 7TH, 2024, THIS IS, I GOT THIS FROM THE, UH, BUILDING INSPECTOR.
THE COMPLAINT WAS DRIVEWAY EXPANDED ON SITE OF PROPERTY WITHOUT BENEFIT OF PERMIT.
NEIGHBOR NO LONGER HAS A PLACE TO PUT HIS SNOW.
I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT MEANS.
THE NEIGHBOR, NEIGHBOR WAS 21, THE ONE THAT'S COMPLAINING WHERE THEY PUTTING THEIR SNOW BECAUSE THE HOUSE WAS ABANDONED.
IT APPEARS THAT THAT'S WHAT THEY WERE USING TO HOUSE THEIR SNOW DURING THE SNOW.
SO THE HOUSE, WHAT WAS THAT DOCUMENT? JUNE 7TH, 2024.
COMPLAINT INVESTIGATION SHEET.
IS IT AN EMAIL? IS IT A I GOT THIS STRAIGHT FROM THE INSPECTOR.
THIS, THIS IS A BUILDING DEPARTMENT FORM.
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SHEET.SO JUST TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, THAT PROPERTY WAS VACANT FOR 15 PLUS YEARS.
THE OLD PREVIOUS OWNER PRETTY MUCH ABANDONED THE HOME.
WENT UP TO MASSACHUSETTS, THE HOUSE WAS AN EYESORE.
THERE WAS TREES ALL OVER THE PLACE WAS JUST A WRECK.
WE COME IN, WANT TO BEAUTIFY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND WE GET TORTURED BY 17 AND 21.
'CAUSE NO ONE AROUND THE BLOCK REALLY CARES.
BUT THOSE TWO GUYS ARE, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THEM TO, YOU KNOW, USE THAT PROPERTY.
'CAUSE THEY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE GOT THERE, IT WAS A DOG PARK.
EVERYONE USED TO TAKE THEIR DOGS THERE AND HANDLE BUSINESS.
AND THE LAY OF THE NEIGHBORS PUT THEIR SNOW THERE.
SO ALL THE, ALL THE DETAILS THAT WE'RE FINDING OUT, IT MAKES SENSE WHY THEY'RE UPSET THAT WE'RE THERE NOW.
RIGHT? THAT'S NOT, WE, WE SHOULD NOT BE A NEIGHBORLY.
SO, UM, I THINK I'M GONNA, I GUESS SO WE JUST FIGURE OUT WHAT NEXT STEPS ARE AND EVERYTHING I SAID, UM, I HAVE DOCUMENTS OF IT.
DOES THE ZONING, DOES THE ZONING BOARD HAVE THIS NEW INFORMATION? YES.
UH, NOT ABOUT, UM, THE, THE, THE NINE, UM, FOUR HOUSES THAT ARE ZERO SETBACK.
'CAUSE WE DID, WE STARTED DOING OUR OWN INVESTIGATION.
'CAUSE HONESTLY, WE, WE, WE WERE VERY SADDENED BECAUSE EVEN WITH THE SONY BOARD, NOT EVERYBODY IN THE SONY BOARD, BUT EVEN THAT, LIKE, WE REALLY COULDN'T EXPRESS OURSELVES.
UM, BUT I, I TRIED TO STAY AS CORDIAL AND AS PEACEFUL AS I COULD.
IF YOU WATCH THE VIDEO, YOU'LL SEE WHY AND NOT WHY, BUT YOU'LL SEE THAT I WAS, YOU REFRAIN YOURSELF EVERYWHERE.
UM, IT TOOK THE HOLY GHOST IF YOU BELIEVE IN THAT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, EVERYTHING THAT WE, THAT WE SPOKE ABOUT.
I'M, I'M, TELL ME YOUR NAME AGAIN.
I DON'T WANT TO CALL YOU MR. LAWYER.
IS THAT OKAY TO CALL YOU JOE? YEAH.
EVERYTHING WE SPOKE ABOUT, WE, WE HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
THE, WE TRIED TO TELL THE BUILDING, THE, THE ZONING BOARD, THE, THE SECOND TIME THAT WE CAME IN, WHAT WE WERE, WHAT WE WERE SEEING.
WE DIDN'T HAVE IT DOCUMENTED, LIKE WITH THE PICTURES THAT YOU GUYS SAW MM-HMM
BUT, UM, WE TOOK PICTURES OF THE ZERO SETBACK AND IT SEEMED THAT SOME PEOPLE IN THE ZONING BOARD DID NOT HAVE, HAD NOT EVEN SEEN THAT.
SO WE DID TAKE PICTURES AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I, I COULD GIVE YOU THAT TOO.
UM, AND UH, SO WE TELL 'EM, WE ARE TELLING THEM, HEY, WE LOOK LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
LIKE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE LOOK LIKE THEM, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANNA SEE THAT.
WE ALSO SPEND, UM, AN EXTRA, I THINK IT'S 15,000.
MY HUSBAND KNOWS ALL THE DETAILS.
UH, BECAUSE WE TOOK OUT ONE OF THE GARAGES MM-HMM
BECAUSE WE WERE, IT WAS SUGGESTED BY ONE OF THE ZONING BOARDS, HEY, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THREE, YOU, YOU, YOU COULD PUT THREE CARDS.
WELL MAYBE JUST, JUST HAVE ONE INSTEAD OF TWO GARAGES.
SO WE DID, WE WENT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WE PUT IN NEW DRAWINGS, WHICH HAS COST US A BUNDLE OF MONEY, CONSTANTLY GETTING NO JOINS TO APPEASE EVERYBODY.
AND THEN THEY DON'T GET APPROVED.
BUT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS APPROVING EVERYTHING WE ARE DOING IN THAT HOUSE.
WHEN YOU SAY NOT APPROVED, YOU'RE SAYING NOT APPROVED BY THE ZONING DEPARTMENT? YEAH.
LIKE, THEY'RE NOT ACKNOWLEDGING, HEY, WE'RE EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ARE TELLING US TO DO.
SO THEY GAVE YOU THAT ADVICE, YOU FOLLOWED IT AND THEN THEY REJECTED IT? NO, AND THEN THEY WERE LIKE, OKAY.
YOU, YOU ACTUALLY GOT RID OF ONE OF THE GARAGES.
YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR IS AVAILABLE NOW BECAUSE I, I MEAN, I THINK WE SHOULD HEAR FROM HER BECAUSE OKAY.
AND THEN, BUT YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO REALLY SORT OF LIKE IDENTIFY WHAT WE AS A TOWN BOARD COULD DO AND WHAT THE SHE'S ON NOW.
EVENING SUPERVISOR FINER AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
HI MR. AND MRS. KADO, HOW YOU DOING, LIZ? GOOD, GOOD.
UM, SO, UM, EVERYTHING THAT MR. AND MRS. KADO JUST, UM, RECOUNTED IS PRETTY MUCH A SUMMARY OF WHAT HAS GONE ON AT THEIR PROPERTY.
UM, THE, THE PROPERTY, JUST TO GIVE EVERYBODY A BACKGROUND, UM, WAS OWNED BY MR. STERN.
WE, IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, HAVE HAD ACTIVE VIOLATIONS IN SUMMONSES AGAINST THE FORMER OWNER FOR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE SINCE 2006.
UM, THERE WAS A FIRE AT THE PROPERTY, UM, AROUND 2018 AT FERRY FIRE DEPARTMENT RESPONDED TO AT THAT.
SINCE THAT TIME, THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN LEFT VAN VACANT AND UNOCCUPIED.
THERE WAS, UM, A LEVEL OF, UM, MATERIALS THAT WERE STORED ON THE INSIDE BY THE FORMER OWNERS THAT MR. AND MRS. CADO, UM, HAVE TAKEN, UM, REALLY, UM, A BEAR ON TO REPAIR THIS HOUSE THAT WAS SEVERELY FIRE DAMAGE TO RESTORE IT BACK TO A DIFFERENT CONDITION.
UM, THE COMPLAINT THAT CAME IN IN JUNE FROM A
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NEIGHBOR ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY BEING EXPANDED WAS BROUGHT INTO THE BUILDING APARTMENT.AS WITH EVERY COMPLAINT WE INVESTIGATED THE MERITS OF IT, UM, UPON CHECKING THE RECORDS IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
UH, JUST TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND, UM, THE HOUSE THAT MR. AND MR. STO PURCHASED WAS BUILT, UM, IN 1957.
UH, THEY DID, THE FORMER OWNER, TWO FORMER OWNERS AGO, DID A TWO CAR GARAGE AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY WITH AN UNFINISHED STORAGE ROOM.
ABOVE THAT WAS DONE IN, UH, 1962.
THE RECORDS THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS DOES NOT SHOW A DRIVEWAY LEADING TO THAT GARAGE, WHICH IS, UM, ABNORMAL BECAUSE IN 1957 WHEN THE CODE CHANGED, DRIVEWAYS WERE REQUIRED.
UM, YOU COULDN'T DRIVE ON A LAWN AND, UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE NEEDED TO BE A DRIVEWAY TO GO INTO A DRIVEWAY, INTO A, INTO A GARAGE.
SO, UM, I HAD LOOKED AT ARIEL PHOTOGRAPHY, UM, THROUGH GOOGLE MAPS THROUGH WESTCHESTER COUNTY, AND I WAS ABLE TO ASCERTAIN AT LEAST ABOUT 1970S.
THERE'S DEFINITELY A DRIVEWAY THERE.
UM, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAD ISSUED A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HOME IN 1962, UM, WITH THE GARAGE.
SO THEY ISSUED A CERTIFICATE, UM, AT LEAST ACCORDING TO OUR PLANS THAT DIDN'T HAVE THE DRIVEWAY BECAUSE I CAN SAFELY, UM, DETERMINE THAT THE, UM, DRIVEWAY WAS IN EXISTENCE IN THE SEVENTIES AND CONTINUED ON, UH, BASED ON THE AERIAL PHOTOGRAPHY.
UH, THE CUTS ARE CORRECT THAT I TOLD HIM THAT BECAUSE IN 2004 WHEN THE STORM WATER LAW WAS ADOPTED, UH, WITH THE SLOPE LAW, THEY DID NOT HAVE TO INSTALL CULT TECH.
UM, WHICH WOULD BE REQUIRED, UM, IN AN OTHER ALTERATION THAT WAS DONE AFTER THAT LAW WAS ADOPTED.
THE CULT TECHS ARE WATER RETENTION SYSTEM THAT THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WOULD APPROVE.
SO, UM, UPON CHECKING THE RECORDS, WE COULD SEE THAT 21 PRIMROSE AND 19 PRIMROSE HAD AT THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY TWO, UM, CONVERGING DRIVEWAYS.
AT SOME POINT IN AROUND 2004, YOU COULD SEE THAT, UH, 21 INSTALLED A COBBLESTONE, UH, BARRIER BETWEEN THE TWO, TWO PROPERTIES IN APPROXIMATELY 2000.
WAS THAT, WAS THAT WITH A PERMIT? THERE WAS NO PERMIT TAKEN ON 21.
SO I HAD BEEN RESEARCHING AFTER I MET WITH THE CODOS THE OTHER DAY, AND THEY BROUGHT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT'S ATTENTION SEVERAL PROPERTIES THAT APPEARED TO HAVE ZERO SETBACKS OR CLOSER TO THE PROPERTY LINE THAN THEY SHOULD BE.
I'VE BEEN RUNNING THROUGH EACH OF THE PROPERTIES ONE BY ONE ON PRIMROSE, AND I FOUND THAT THERE HAVE BEEN ALTERATIONS BY THE NEIGHBORS, UM, THAT HAVE BEEN DONE WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF PERMIT AS WELL.
SO I AM GOING TO HAVE TO ISSUE VIOLATION NOTICES TO ANY NEIGHBORS THAT HAVE EXPANDED OR ALTERED THEIR DRIVEWAYS WITHOUT THE BENEFIT OF CURRENTS.
SO, SO IN TERMS OF ANY ADVICE THAT YOU COULD GIVE THE TOWN BOARD AS TO WHAT, IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE WANNA HELP RESOLVE THE DISPUTE, DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS WHAT YOU THINK WE COULD DO THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, APPROPRIATE AND, UH, AND POSSIBLY HELPFUL? BECAUSE THEY'RE APPARENT? I, I CAN'T OFFER ANY RECOMMENDATIONS THAT WOULD BE, UM, ABLE TO ASSIST THE CODOS IN THE SITUATION THEY'RE IN, UM, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE, THEIR CONCERN IS DISCRIMINATION.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THEY ARE DIFFERENT AND COMING INTO A PROPERTY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD COMPLAINTS ON.
AND JUST TO, UH, I'M JUST GONNA PULL UP THE, THE PROPERTY.
UM, THEY, THEY ARE CORRECT, UM, THAT WHEN THEY MOVED INTO THE PROPERTY OR STARTED TAKING ACTION ON THE PROPERTY, IT WASN'T, UM, WE DIDN'T GET ANY, UH, SUMMONSES OR NOTICES OF VIOLATION OR COMPLAINTS.
UM, SINCE 2019, THERE WAS ALWAYS PROPERTY MAINTENANCE.
WE'VE GOT, WE GOT A, ALL THAT, THERE WAS PEOPLE RAKING NEW YORK.
UM, SO, WHICH WE, WE DIDN'T, UM, EVEN FOLLOW THROUGH WITH, BUT WE RECORDED IT AS A COMPLAINT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S OBVIOUSLY A LEVEL OF ANIMOSITY AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT WHAT IT IS.
THAT IS THE RAKING OF THE YARD.
WHAT YEAR WAS THAT? UM, THAT WAS IN 2024.
SO IF WE HAD ONE, THE NAMES THE, WAS ACTUALLY WHO WAS RAKING THERE AT THE AVOCADOS? WE DIDN'T SEND ANYONE OUT BECAUSE IT WASN'T ANYTHING THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT COULD ADDRESS IF SOMEONE WAS OUT RAKING THE FRONT YARD.
UM, WAS THAT YOURSELF OR LANDSCAPERS OR WHAT? LANDSCAPERS, LANDSCAPERS WE'RE TAKING OUT TREES.
IF, WHEN 2024, WERE WE ALREADY THE OWNERS?
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WHAT, WHAT MONTH? SO I, BECAUSE THE, THE DEED WAS A FILED IN THE COUNTY, ACCORDING TO THE TOWN'S RECORDS, IT IS STILL, UM, STERN.SO YEAH, YOU NO, I UNDERSTAND.
BUT WHAT MONTH WAS THAT? AND WE WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WERE DOING IF THAT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS IN JULY.
SO, SO WE WERE TAKING DOWN, MOVING THE TREES AS A TIME TREES.
SO THE COMPLAINT WAS SOMEONE WAS RAKING THE LAWN, RAKING THE LAWN, RAKING THE, RAKING THE LAWN.
THAT WAS WHEN, UM, THERE WAS A BUNCH OF DEBRIS, UH, THAT WAS OUT AT THE, THE CURB.
AND THERE WAS SOME, UH, IT LOOKED LIKE FROM ONE OF OUR INSPECTOR HAD RECORDED SOME PIECES OF WOOD, SO THAT'S WHY THE STOP RECORDER WAS POSTED.
AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY REMOVED AFTER, UM, WE MET WITH IDOS AND OUR INSPECTOR DID REINSPECTION.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO TRY SETTING UP A MEETING? LIKE I SAID, YOU, I DON'T THINK, IT SOUNDS LIKE A MEETING WOULD BE AT THIS POINT, THIS OKAY.
BUT WE COULD NO, BECAUSE I'M JUST SAYING TALK ABOUT INTERNALLY.
WHATEVER YOU WANT ME TO DO, LET ME KNOW.
YOU HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER, RIGHT? EMAIL.
SO I'M AVAILABLE TO DO WHATEVER I CAN TO HELP IF YOU WANT.
HAVE YOU ASKED THE COUNTY FOR AN UPDATE RECENTLY ON, YOU SAID YOU SUBMITTED A COMPLAINT WITH THEM? I THINK THEY HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION OR SOMETHING.
SO LET ME TELL YOU, UM, I'M COLD.
BECAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ZONING BOARD.
I KNOW ZONING BOARD IS STILL REVIEWING ALL THE INFORMATION IS YET TO MAKE A DETERMINATION.
JUST WONDERING IF THEY MADE A DETERMINATION OR THEY'RE STILL, THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE, UM, INVESTIGATING IT.
I HAVE, I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK SURE A SECOND.
UH, YEAH, IT WAS THE HUMAN RIGHT COMMISSION.
UM, WE, WE ALSO, WE ALSO SPOKE TO TASHA COBB.
TASHA COBB, TASHA COBB, WHAT'S THE TITLE, BABE? I'M SORRY.
I SHOULD HAVE HAD THIS WRITTEN DOWN.
BUT WE, WHEREVER WE COULD GET HELP, IT IS NOT LIKE WE'VE BEEN SITTING DOWN WITH OUR ARMS CROSSED.
SHE ALSO TRIED TO HELP US AND SEND EMAILS.
SO WHAT DO YOU MEAN LANE? COBB? LANE COBB.
SHE'S THE HEAD OF THE TOWN HUMAN RIGHTS COMMITTEE, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND, AND SHE DID SEND A LETTER, A, A, A, A EMAIL.
I SPOKE TO HER FOR LIKE TWO HOURS AND MM-HMM
WE SAW THINGS KIND OF MOVING ONCE SHE KIND OF STEPPED IN MM-HMM
BUT THE, THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSIONER, WHAT HE, UH, COMMISSION DEPARTMENT, WHAT HE WAS SAYING, THAT HE REALLY NEEDS TO LOOK INTO IT BECAUSE IF THEY WASN'T LIKE RACIAL SLUR, UM, THEY CORRECT.
OR LIKE A, UM, I'M GONNA HIT YOU.
OR IF HE HAD LIKE A GUN, LIKE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR, RIGHT? WELL, THEY'RE LOOKING FOR LIKE, HE HAS TO HAVE A GUN OR A MACHETE OR, AND, AND WE TOLD THEM, NO, WE'RE NOT GONNA LIE.
UM, AND, AND NO, BUT FOR VERBAL THINGS ARE CONSIDERED HATE INCIDENTS, NOT, NOT HATE CRIMES PER THAT, RIGHT? MM-HMM
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS TELLING THE HUMAN RIGHTS DEPARTMENT.
AND, UM, THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE INVESTIGATING, BUT IT'S REALLY TAKEN A LONG TIME BECAUSE I ACTUALLY HAVE A LETTER THERE.
AND THIS ONE, UM, THIS ONE, UH, THIS WAS DONE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE DATE, BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I JUST WANNA, BUT THIS WAS DONE LIKE IN JUNE, JULY, BUT I, THIS WAS WHEN THINGS GOT HEATED UP AND I SAID, OH, I GOTTA TAKE CARE OF THIS.
BUT I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, MENTION AGAIN JUST FOR EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU BROUGHT THAT TO MY ATTENTION, YOU KNOW MM-HMM
A WHILE BACK, EVEN THOUGH, YOU KNOW, I HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION WITH BLADE, YOU KNOW, AND EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, I IMMEDIATELY, UH, CONTACTED MARIA PORTILLA.
I IMMEDIATELY CONTACTED LANE COBB.
AND I, UH, RECOMMENDED, YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY HUMAN, UH MM-HMM
UH, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, HUMAN, UH, UH, WHATEVER, IT'S HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION.
BUT, BUT SO THE THING IS, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THAT WHEN PEOPLE COMPLAIN, EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, I KNOW, YOU KNOW, OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBOR WHO ARE CIVIC LEADERS, I'M GONNA LOOK THE OTHER WAY.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I ALSO SAID TO YOU AT THAT TIME, IF YOU WANT ME TO DO ANY OTHER FOLLOW UP MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO DO FOLLOW UP.
SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD FROM, FROM YOU IN, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF MONTHS.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, MY OFFER IS, YOU KNOW, I, I DO NOT TOLERATE DISCRIMINATION OF ANY KIND.
AND, YOU KNOW, I FEEL VERY, VERY STRONGLY.
I ALSO FEEL THAT EVERY HOMEOWNER HAS TO BE TREATED, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH RESPECT AND SHOULD FEEL WELCOME IN THE TOWN.
YOU KNOW, I WANT YOU TO BE HAPPY THAT YOU'RE, UH, LIVING HERE.
SO AGAIN, I JUST WANNA SAY, IF THERE'S ANYTHING YOU WANT ME TO DO MM-HMM
I'M WILLING TO, YOU KNOW, GET INVOLVED AND TRY, YOU KNOW,
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CLIMBING THINGS OUT.WE JUST WANNA FIX THE PROBLEM, RIGHT? NO.
BUT THE THING IS, BUT THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M HAPPY TO TRY, UM, YOU KNOW, TRY, YOU KNOW, DOING THINGS LIKE INFORMAL.
WE DON'T WANNA TRY, WE WANT TO DO NO, BUT THE THING IS I'M WELL, YEAH, BUT I, BUT THE THING IS, IF YOU GIVE ME A CHANCE TO, TO MAKE AN EFFORT TO INFORMALLY TRY CALMING THINGS DOWN, I'LL DO THE BEST.
I'LL GIVE IT EVERYTHING I CAN.
SO TO MAYBE I'LL BE SUCCESSFUL.
BECAUSE WE, WE'VE ALL, MAYBE WE ALL HEARING THIS AND SO MAYBE IT'S BEEN VERY FRUSTRATING.
NO NEED TO, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO APOLOGIZE.
SO, YOU KNOW, DON'T, BUT YOU DON'T TAKE ME AS BEING RUDE.
NO, YOU DIDN'T, YOU WEREN'T, YOU WERE NOT VERY UPSET.
I'M VERY DISGUSTED, UNDERSTANDABLY.
YOU KNOW, EMOTIONALLY IT, IT IS DRAINED US FINANCIALLY.
AND, AND IT'S FELL ON DEAF EARS AND I'M TIRED OF TRYING MM-HMM
WELL THAT'S WHY I'M, I'M, YOU KEEP SAYING TRYING.
NO, BUT YOU, LAST TIME YOU SPOKE TO ME WAS LIKE SIX MONTHS AGO.
WELL, I, SOUND ATTORNEY IS GOING TO REACH OUT.
I BELIEVE YOU GUYS ALREADY BEEN SPEAKING.
YOU MIGHT HAVE CONTACT NUMBER.
WE HAVE NOT SPOKEN, BUT, OH, I'M SORRY.
I ASKED, UH, DEPUTY GARRITY TO SHARE YOUR INFORMATION, SO, OKAY.
SO I WAS ON THE TOWN, UH, I WAS ON THE ZONING BOARD FOR 10 YEARS, AND WE HAD CASES SIMILAR TO THIS, BUT NOT THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT YOU'RE EXPERIENCING, BUT IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND COMPLAIN ABOUT A NEIGHBOR'S VARIANCE.
AND THEN IT TURNS OUT THAT THE PERSON WHO'S COMPLAINING HAS ILLEGAL STRUCTURES OR EXPANDED DRIVEWAYS ON THEIR PROPERTIES.
UH, NOT OF THIS MAGNITUDE, YOU KNOW, UH, THAT WE'RE FINDING, BUT WHAT GENERALLY HAPPENS IS THAT THOSE PEOPLE THAT NOW HAVE TO COME IN TO THE ZONING BOARD AND GET A VARIANCE, THEY ALL SOMEHOW DO A KUMBAYA MOMENT AND SUPPORT EACH OTHER TO GET THEIR VARIANCES RIGHT.
AGAIN, I'VE NEVER SEEN SOMETHING OF THIS MAGNITUDE WHERE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE COMPLAINING ALSO HAVE VIOLATIONS ON THEIR PROPERTY, BUT I HAVE A FEELING IT'LL GET WORKED OUT.
BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE ZONING BOARD IS NOT AN INVESTIGATOR BODY.
RIGHT? THEY, THEY TEND TO DO SOME INVESTIGATION, BUT THEY REALLY NEED TO ACT ON WHAT'S BEFORE THEM.
AND SO WHATEVER DOCUMENTATION YOU HAVE ABOUT SIMILAR PROPERTIES TO SHOW THAT IT'S NOT OUTTA CHARACTER WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU HAVE TO PUT THAT BEFORE THEM.
YOU CAN'T EXPECT THEM TO DO THE RESEARCH THAT IS REALLY PLACED ON THE APPLICANT OR ON THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS.
IF THEY COULD SHOW THAT IT'S, IT IS OUT OF CHARACTER, WHICH IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THEY CAN DO THAT, UH, YOU GOTTA GET THAT BEFORE THEM TOO.
I DO WATCH, I DO WATCH THESE MEETINGS ON THE LIAISON TO THE ZONING BOARD, UH, BUT AS THE SUPERVISOR SAID, WE CAN'T INFLUENCE THE ZONING BOARD AS TOWN BOARD MEMBERS, INDEPENDENT BODY.
BUT I THINK WHAT YOU NEED TO DO IS TO PUT THIS TOGETHER IN A PACKAGE, ASSUME NOTHING FROM THE PAST START, YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, PUTTING EVERYTHING DOWN THAT YOU CAN TO SHOW ABOUT HOW YOUR PROPERTY IS NOT OUT OF CHARACTER.
UM, AND DON'T FEEL LIKE YOU HAVE TO GIVE, YOU KNOW, BACK SOMETHING THAT'S LEGAL, UM, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO, BECAUSE YOU'RE ENTITLED AS RESIDENCE TO, UM, KEEP SOMETHING THAT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CODE.
YOU HAVE AN UNUSUAL SITUATION HERE THAT AT SOME POINT IN THE PAST, THE TOWN APPROVED THE GARAGE BUT DID NOT MENTION THE DRIVEWAY.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU GET TO A GARAGE WITHOUT A DRIVEWAY.
'CAUSE IT'S KIND OF, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
UM, BUT, UM, I DON'T WANT YOU TO FEEL BAD ABOUT THE TOWN.
OBVIOUSLY YOU LIKE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BUT, BUT NOT EVERYBODY DOES.
AND YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT PUT YOU BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD BECAUSE THEY FELT THAT THEY HAD TO DENY, OF COURSE, YOUR BUILDING PERMIT.
AND THIS HAPPENS ALL THE TIME, ALL THE TIME.
THE BILLING DEPARTMENT, IF IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH THE CODE, THEY HAVE TO DENY IT NOW.
AND THEN YOU HAVE TO GO TO THE, UM, ZONING BOARD TO GET A VARIANCE.
IT IS WHAT HAPPENED AT THE ZONING BOARD MEETINGS AND YOU KNOW, FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST TWO OF THEM GOT OUT OF CONTROL.
AND, UH, THAT WAS UNFORTUNATE.
BUT LET'S GO FORWARD AND WHAT I REALLY URGE YOU TO DO IS
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TO PUT TOGETHER A PACKAGE THAT SHOWS THAT STATEMENTS THAT, YOU KNOW, ZERO SETBACK IS, IS I YOUR NEIGHBOR HAS A ZERO SETBACK.YOU KEEP CALLING IT A NEGATIVE SETBACK.
IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN.
THEY'RE APPROACHING THE PROPERTY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN MY PROPERTY.
GIVE IT TO THE ZONING BOARD IN ADVANCE.
I KNOW THAT YOU HELD IT OVER, UM, AND, UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, MAKE YOUR CASE.
SO, SO THE, THE FUNNY THING I, I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE SAYING DO A PACKET, SEND IT.
BEFORE WE DID THAT TWICE, WE, WE DID THESE OTHER PACKAGES.
I GAVE THEM TO MR. LOY OVER HERE TO JOE.
THESE ON THE PACKAGE, I DIDN'T INTERRUPT YOU, BUT I ASKED YOU EARLIER, DID THEY HAVE THESE SIMILAR PROPERTIES YES.
ONE TOOK THE ONE, THE, THE, I ACTUALLY TOOK A ARIEL THIS TIME AROUND, BUT I, I WENT THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TOOK PICTURES.
THEY DID HAVE IT, THE ZONING BOARD.
I GAVE THEM PACKAGE, A PACKAGE OF, HEY, THIS IS ZERO SETBACK.
SO YOU TOOK INDIVIDUAL PICTURES? I PICTURES, WHICH IS WHAT THEY ASKED THE FIRST TIME.
SO THE FIRST TIME I TAKE, I TAKE IT.
I MEAN, I HAD TO BECOME A LAWYER.
I THINK I'VE DONE A REALLY GOOD JOB.
BUT, UM, MAYBE I'LL START, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE HIRING.
OPEN IT, YOU KNOW, JOE, YOUR JOB, YOUR JOB MAY BE, UH OH.
BUT, BUT, UM, MR. SHEEHAN, WE, WE DID, WE TOOK PICTURES OF ALL OF THE PROPERTIES THAT HAD ZERO SETBACK.
WE ALSO TOOK PICTURES OF THE PROPERTIES THAT HAD A CURVED DRIVEWAY, WHICH WAS WHAT THEY WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT.
THAT IT DIDN'T, IT, IT DIDN'T SERVE WITH THE CHARACTER.
AND AT LEAST TWO OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, IF NOT ONE, HAD NEVER SEEN THIS.
THEY STARTED LOOKING AT IT WHEN I WAS SPEAKING TO THEM, THE VOICEMAIL OF THREATENING.
THEY WERE LIKE, I, I HAVEN'T EVEN HEARD THE VOICEMAIL.
WHICH WE FELT LIKE, WOW, I'M DOING ALL THIS WORK BECAUSE I'M DEFENDING.
AND THE, THE, THE ZONING BOARD IS COMING UNPREPARED.
AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY I GOT SCREAMED AT AND SAID, WELL, YOU'RE COMING.
YOU KNOW WHY I DON'T SEE YOU COMING IN PEACE.
I SEE THESE PEOPLE BEHIND YOU MAKING ALL THESE FACES AND THEY'RE EMOTIONAL.
SO THE PEOPLE BEHIND ME COULD BE EMOTIONAL, BUT I CAN'T, WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? YOU'RE, YOU'RE HERE TO BRIDGE A GAP SO THAT THE NEIGHBORS COULD LIVE IN PEACE.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT WE FELT, YOU KNOW? UM, WE'RE WE'RE SITTING IN THE ZONING BOARD AND THEY'RE MAKING COMMENTS LIKE, WELL, THEY COULD SPEND MONEY IF THEY, IF WE TELL 'EM TO DO IT, THEY GOTTA DO IT.
THEY COULD SPEND ALL THE MONEY.
IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MONEY, YOU KNOW.
UM, WE WERE TOLD THAT, AND I SAID, OKAY, BUT IF YOU ARE BEING COMPASSIONATE WITH FACES THAT, THAT ARE BEING WHATEVER THE FACES WERE BEHIND ME, YOU CAN'T BE COMPASSIONATE WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH TOO, AS HOMEOWNERS.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE CLAIMING.
BUT WE DID, WE DID, AND I APOLOGIZE.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE, UM, TALKING ABOUT THE AERIAL PHOTO.
IT WAS PASSED AROUND AND NEVER IT WAS PASSED AROUND.
THAT'S WHY I SAID, BUT I'LL DO, I'LL DO IT AGAIN.
WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION NOW, BUT THIS TIME INCLUDING THERE.
WITH THE, THEIR RECORDS THAT THIS WAS DONE, LOOKING AT A PHOTOGRAPH, YOU DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LEGAL OR NOT LEGAL.
YOU KNOW, BUT NOW YOU HAVE DOCUMENTATION.
AND IT'S ALSO ZERO SETBACKS OR WHATEVER THE SETBACK IS.
INCLUDING WHAT YOU DID BEFORE.
BECAUSE THE ZONING BOARD GETS LOTS OF PAPERWORK.
AND SO IF YOU CAN PUT IT ALL TOGETHER FOR THE NEXT MEETING, UM, YEAH.
THE SAD PART IS JUST THAT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE FRUSTRATED AND VERY DISAPPOINTED BECAUSE WHAT WE DID WAS NOT ACKNOWLEDGED.
SO WE DID COME BACK WITH, HEY, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED.
THIS IS, YOU KNOW, YOU YOU WANT US TO FIT TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
'CAUSE THE FIRST TIME WAS LIKE, WELL, YOU DON'T HAVE PICTURES.
I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS STUFF NOW.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S EDUCATE ME A LITTLE BIT, YOU KNOW, BE A LITTLE BIT COMPASSIONATE TOWARDS ME.
BY ARMOR YOU MEAN WITH A LOT OF DOCUMENTS? YES.
I'M VERY, VERY, NO 11 COPIES EMAILED.
I'M EVEN ADDING COLOR AND LITTLE CHARTS JUST IN CASE.
SO IF I PENNY TO NOW EVERYONE, THE, THE BOARD HAS THE COMPLETE STORY
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ALL TOGETHER IN A SINGLE DOCUMENT.MAYBE AS MUCH, SO MUCH WORK FOR YOU.
HAVING THE COMPLETE NATALIE COULD BE REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO THAT MAYBE YOU HAVE THE ROOM.
THEY, THEY DO HAVE THE POLICE REPORTS.
THEY HAVE, UM, UH, OUR, UH, REPORT OF THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION.
THEY HAVE THE PICTURES, THEY HAVE THE LETTER THAT I SENT TO MR. PAUL FINER AUDIO.
THEY HAVE OUR EMAILS, THEY HAVE THE AUDIO.
BUT THEY HAVE THAT ALL IN THE PACKAGE.
THEY EVEN SENT ME A DRIVE 'CAUSE THE FILE WAS SO LARGE.
KIARA SENT ME A DRIVE SO I COULD SEND EVERYTHING ON THAT DRIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE LARGE PICTURES, YOU KNOW, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND AND THEY CAN SEE IT.
SO WE WILL, I HAVE YOUR CONTACT.
SO SORRY, I JUST WANTED A COPY RESULTS.
THANK I SAID I'M SORRY THAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THIS.
SO YOU WANT ME TO WAIT FOR THE COPIES OR YOUR EMAIL? WHAT YOU WANT ME TO DO? I CAN MAKE THEM FOR YOU.
'CAUSE I KNOW THERE'S OTHER CASES HERE.
IN THE MEANTIME, WE CAN BRING, OKAY.
DO YOU WANNA USE MY
OKAY, NEXT ON THE, UM, LIST, UM, UH, THE BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM PROJECT.
AND UM, IS KEN COMING? THAT WOULD BE LLOYD.
HE BROUGHT, OH, I THOUGHT KEN WAS TALKING ABOUT KEN.
YEAH, HE EMAIL KEN SAID IT COULDN'T MAKE IT.
THAT'S WHATEVER THIS ONE'S ALREADY ON, SO ONE DOESN'T MATTER.
I AM, I, I'M FLOORED TO THE FACT THAT I HAVE GIVEN THREE CHAIRS AND ONE CHAIR.
SO WINSOME AND LAWYERS WINSOME? YES.
MR. COURT, ME, OR LIKE WHEN MR. COURT, THIS IS THE QUESTION THAT IS POSED, I THINK, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE PARKWAY GARDENS AND POSSIBLY PARKWAY HOMES TO BE CONSIDERED AS LANDMARKS.
AM I CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE CORRECT.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE MUSEUM.
DID THAT COMING FROM THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION THAT THEY WOULD LIKE THAT? YEAH, THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION.
SO WE LIKE, WOULD LIKE THAT DESIGNATION.
SO ARE YOU REPRESENTING THE HISTORICAL, I'M JUST CONFUSED.
ISN'T THIS ABOUT THE MUSEUM? YES.
COUNCIL LADY HENDRICKS COUNCILWOMAN.
PULL YOUR, PULL YOUR MICROPHONE.
CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? NOT TOO, YEAH, WE'RE NOT TOO CLOSE.
UM, I'M HERE BECAUSE, UM, ON OCTOBER 8TH, 2024, SUPERVISOR FINER PUT A CALL INTO MY OFFICE.
HE MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A, A BLACK MUSEUM IN GREENBURG AND HE WAS ASKING FOR FUNDING IF WE COULD RESEARCH POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES.
SO I SAID THAT'S NOT A PROBLEM.
UM, SINCE THEN, OUR DEPARTMENT DID RESEARCH POTENTIAL FUNDING SOURCES.
AND I MUST SAY WE RECEIVED TREMENDOUS INTEREST FROM THE STATE, THE COUNTY, OTHER LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, INSTITUTION, AND HISTORICAL FOUNDATIONS.
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I DID SAY TO SUPERVISOR FINER THAT I WILL NOT PURSUE ANY FUNDING SOURCE UNLESS I HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE TOWN BOARD.UH, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE OPERATE IN THE PHILANTHROPY DEPARTMENT.
SO I'M COMING TO YOU BECAUSE I WANNA KNOW IF IT'S OKAY FOR US TO PURSUE THE FUNDING SOURCES.
AND BASICALLY WE'VE HAD A COMMITTEE, UM, THAT'S BEEN MEETING FOR, UM, PROBABLY LIKE SIX MONTHS OR SO.
UM, AND, UM, KEN JONES IS VERY INVOLVED IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMITTEE.
UM, AND THEY'VE BEEN, I THINK THEY SENT WHEN SOME SENT YOU, UM, UM, SOME PROTOTYPES OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OR WE CAN, UM, SUPERVISE FINER.
UM, LET ME JUST STOP FOR A SECOND RIGHT THERE.
BUT, UM, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM KEN JONES AT 12:04 PM IT SAYS, GOOD MORNING TOWN BOARD.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US SOME TIME ON YOUR AGENDA THIS EVENING.
SO WE CAN BRING YOU UP TO DATE WITH THE GREENBERG BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM EXHIBIT SCHEDULED TO BE UNVEILED IN TOWN HALL FEBRUARY, 2025.
HE, THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE HE SENT YOU, BUT I DIDN'T SEE THIS EXAMPLE.
HE SAYS WINSOME AND GEORGE HAVE IDENTIFIED NON TAXPAYER FUNDS THAT WANT, THAT WANT TO ASSIST YOU WITH THE PROJECT.
AS I MENTIONED, THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE THE TOM BOARD TO SUPPORT THE PROJECT AS WELL AS THE DEPARTMENT OF PHILANTHROPIST ASSISTANCE ON THE PROJECT.
I HAVE A CONFLICT THIS EVENING WITH THE NIGHT COURT APPEARANCE AND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
LLOYD COURT WILL APPEAR ALONG WITH WINSOME INSTEAD.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
BUT WHAT, BUT BASICALLY THE, THE COMMITTEE, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE CAB CALLAWAY FOUNDATION, UH, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING CAB CALLAWAY'S.
UH, CAN WE GET SOME INFORMATION ABOUT, OKAY, THE THING ABOUT THIS IS THE FIRST OF US HEARING ABOUT THIS, I'M, WELL, IS THIS A TOWN HALL OR IS THAT AT THE COMMUNITY? IT WOULD BE A TOWN WE'RE LOOKING AT FIRST.
WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE TOWN HALL BECAUSE WE HAVE, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SARAH BRACY WHITE.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING EXHIBITS THERE FOR YEARS.
UM, SO, UH, SHE SAID WE HAVE THE WHOLE, THE WHOLE WALL, ANOTHER OPTION, WHICH I THINK THEN, UH, THE ROTARY CLUBS FOR THE SEVEN, UH, THE WHOLE AREA, THEY'RE ALSO INTERESTED IN, YOU KNOW, HELPING OUT BECAUSE THEY WERE EXCITED ABOUT IT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT THEY HAD IS, UM, THAT MAYBE WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE VISIBLE.
SO I WAS SORT OF THINKING THIS IS, BUT LEMME JUST SAY SOMETHING.
THIS, THIS IS, IS THIS DIFFERENT? BECAUSE THIS IS THE FIRST I'M HEARING ABOUT.
WE, I'VE BEEN TALKING, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR A MONTH.
IS THIS DIFFERENT? IS THIS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE COMMUNITY? YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE NO, IT'S THE SAME PROJECT.
WELL, IF YOU HARM SOMEBODY, PLEASE DO SO THEN LEMME JUST SAY, SO ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD WAS, WAS THAT IT MIGHT BE MORE VISIBLE IF WE TOOK THE PHOTOS OF THE TOWN SUPERVISORS OFF OVER HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A, A, A, A LOCATION THAT MORE PEOPLE LOOK AT AND WE PERHAPS MADE THE AFRICAN AMERICAN, YOU KNOW, MUSEUM IN THE AUDITORIUM OVER HERE.
BECAUSE I THOUGHT THAT, THAT I JUST SAW OF THAT OVER THE WEEKEND.
BECAUSE THAT MIGHT BE EVEN MORE OF A VISIBLE LOCATION.
YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE MORE PEOPLE LOOKING AT IT.
SO, BUT IS THIS A BRAINSTORMING SESSION? IS THIS A REPORT ON? CAN I MAKE THIS A LOT MORE SUCCINCT AND YES, PLEASE.
UM, SO FOR THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH ON FEBRUARY 2ND, WE INTEND TO HAVE AN EXHIBIT AT THE GREENBERG PUBLIC LIBRARY.
AND THEN, UH, I'M SORRY, THIS IS THE GREENBERG BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM.
THE EXHIBIT IS, IT IS, THESE ARE PANELS.
UH, THE PANELS ARE GIVING INFORMATION ABOUT PEOPLE WHO LIVED IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
UM, AND IT DOES, IT'S NOT NECESSARY.
IT'S NOT ALL CIVIL RIGHTS, IT'S NOT ALL ENTERTAINMENT.
IT'S PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE WHO HAVE CONTRIBUTED OR HAVE DONE, YOU KNOW, SOME GREAT THINGS IN THEIR LIFE.
SO WE, THERE, THERE WILL BE PANELS ON EXHIBIT.
THIS IS OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC FOR THEM TO COME AND SEE, LEARN ABOUT PEOPLE WHO HAVE LIVED HERE AND CONTRIBUTED TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, HOPEFULLY ON FEBRUARY 8TH, UH, WHICH WOULD BE THE FOLLOWING SATURDAY.
THE FOLLOWING SATURDAY ON FEBRUARY 8TH.
THE HOPE IS THAT WE WOULD THEN MOVE THAT EXHIBIT, BRING IT TO THE TOWN HALL TO BE DISPLAYED ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
UM, THIS WAS A CONVERSATION, UH, AS THEY MENTIONED WITH SARAH BRACY WHITE, BECAUSE SHE DOES DISPLAYS UP THERE.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT WOULD, UM, GO.
AND THEN WE WOULD HOPEFULLY HAVE AN OPENING.
NOW I EXPLAINED, 'CAUSE WHEN I FIRST HEARD ABOUT IT SECOND, I WAS LIKE, DO PEOPLE ACTUALLY COME IN? AND THEN THEY'RE WALKING AROUND AND SHE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE.
WELL, I SEE ART EVERY TIME I GO AND BUG GARRETT AND AARON.
SO WHEN I GO UP THERE, I'LL SEE THE ART.
BUT WHAT SHE'S EXPLAINED TO ME WAS THAT IT, THERE IS A WAY FOR THE PUBLIC TO GO AND VIEW THE ART ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
SO NOW I WILL SAY TO THAT POINT,
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UM, LEADING UP TO WHAT, UH, UH, WINSTON WAS SAYING, THE FUNDING FOR IT, BECAUSE IT DOES COST MONEY OBVIOUSLY TO PRINT REALLY NICE.AND SO THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE FUNDING THAT THEY WERE LOOKING FOR TO CREATE THE PANELS.
TO CREATE THE PANELS AND ANY OTHER EXPENSES THAT, THAT NEED TO BE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN AND BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
I, AND I, I DON'T KNOW IF LIKE YOU, YOU NEED MORE DETAIL, BUT, UM, I'M WONDERING, UH, SINCE KEN JONES, UM, SENT US THE, THE, UH, PROTOTYPES OF THE TYPES OF PANELS, I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD PUT THAT ON THE SCREEN OVER HERE.
SO THIS WAY, UM, EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD COULD, COULD SEE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THEY REALLY ARE LOOKING AT A REALLY NICE, IS THAT NECESSARY? NO.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I THINK ANYONE HAS, WHAT I'LL DO IS I'M GONNA SEND A, UM, I JUST PRINTED SOMETHING.
I WENT ON AND DID SOME RESEARCH AND I PRINTED SOMETHING TO SHARE WITH THE BOARD.
I'M GONNA SEND THIS TO FRANCIS AND TO COUNCILMAN SHEEN AND COUNCILMAN HENDRICKS SEPARATELY.
UM, AS SOON AS I'M FINISHED I'LL SEND IT TO YOU.
I JUST PRINTED A SAMPLE OF A, OF A PANEL THAT EVERYONE CAN TAKE, TAKE A LOOK AT MM-HMM
AND WE GOT PERMISSION FROM THE, THEY GOT PERMISSION FROM THIS FOUNDATION THAT THEY COULD USE THIS.
SO IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, BUT WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS I NEED AUTHORIZATION FROM MY TOWN BOARD TO TELL ME THAT IT'S OKAY FOR ME TO PURSUE FUNDING FOR THIS BECAUSE THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE INTERESTED.
AND, UM, JUST FROM PAST EXPERIENCE, I WILL NOT PURSUE ANYTHING UNLESS THE TOWN BOARD TELLS ME TO DO IT.
WELL, AND WE WOULD NEED A, A PRE JUST A PRESENTATION OF ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PANELS THAT ARE GONNA BE INCLUDED.
WHAT, WHAT THE FULL SCOPE OF THE PROJECT.
I DON'T, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT'S NECESSARY BECAUSE I THINK THE LIBRARY AND THE, SOME HISTORICAL SOCIETIES THAT THEY'LL BE HELPING GREENBERG WITH IT.
BUT I THINK THE LIBRARY HAS SO MUCH EXPERIENCE WITH THIS THAT I THINK WE CAN, SO THESE PANELS ARE GONNA BE MOVED AROUND FROM BUILDING TO BUILDING? IS THAT IT? YOU, YOU COULD TELL US MORE.
'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH.
UM, AND SO THIS, THIS IS NOT THE END OF THE PROCESS.
THIS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN, IN FEBRUARY, BLACK HISTORY MONTH.
THEY WILL BE MOVED FROM THE LIBRARY TO, UH, THE GREENBURG TOWN HALL, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OTHER FUTURE PLACES FOR PEOPLE TO SEE IT.
THE IDEA HOPEFULLY IS MAYBE IN THE FUTURE WE'LL HAVE A PERMANENT INSTALLATION, BUT AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME IT'S ABOUT HAVING AN, UH, A, UH, DISPLAY THAT CAN BE EDUC, YOU KNOW, EDUCATIONAL.
SO FOR INSTANCE, IF, IF A SCHOOL, I'M NOT SAYING THEY HAVE, BUT IF A SCHOOL WOULD LIKE FOR US TO DO IT AT, AT THEIR SCHOOL FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME, WE CAN DO IT THERE.
BUT WE HAVE, WE ARE PREPARING EVERYTHING SO THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE AVAILABLE FOR THEM.
BUT THE, WE CAN DO IT MEANS WE CAN MOVE THE PANELS TO THE SCHOOL.
SO IT'S NOT, UM, WHEN WE SAY EXHIBIT, DON'T THINK OF IT LIKE THE MAT WHERE YOU, YOU A TRAVELING EXHIBIT, RIGHT? MM-HMM
BUT IT'LL BE, IT CAN BE A TRAVELING EXHIBIT.
WHO OWNS, SO WHO OWNS THE PANELS? SO ARE YOU SAYING THE FUNDING THAT YOU'RE TRYING, THE FUNDING THAT YOU ARE TRYING TO, TO GET, IS THAT FUNDING TO PURCHASE THE PANELS AND THEN THAT WILL ALWAYS BE IN YOUR INVENTORY SO YOU CAN TAKE THIS TO YES.
SO WHO, WHO WOULD OWN IT? SO IS THAT THE TECH? WOULD THAT BE, HOW DOES THAT WORK? RIGHT.
SO A LITTLE BIT, I DO HAVE THE SAME QUESTION BECAUSE THEN IT BECOMES, UH, UM, WHO'S, YOU KNOW, WHO FINANCED IT AND WHAT ARE REQUIREMENTS OF THE FINANCING.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THAT WINSOME WANTS.
IF YOU'RE AGREE, IF YOU'RE AGREEABLE TO HER PURSUING IT, DEPEND ON WHERE THE FINANCING IS COMING FROM, IF I MAY.
AND THEN WHAT OUR RESPONSIBILITIES, I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW, BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT PROPOSAL, BECAUSE THERE'S, BECAUSE THERE'S DIFFERENT THINGS.
LIKE, SO THERE ARE TIMES WHEN PEOPLE WILL SPONSOR YOU AND THEY SAY, LOOK, JUST PUT MY NAME ON IT, AND WHATEVER YOU DO WITH THE MONEY, THAT'S FINE.
WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN A GRANT THAT SOMEONE GIVES YOU MM-HMM
OR, SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT THAT'S WHERE IT COMES DOWN.
IS THERE A WRITTEN PROPOSAL YET? YES, WE DO HAVE PROPOSAL.
IF I MAY ADD, DO WE HAVE A PROPOSAL YET? YEAH, WE WOULD LIKE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A, A COPY OF THE PROPOSAL.
WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THE COST OF IT IS AND WHAT TIME AND HAVE NO, THERE'S NO COST BECAUSE IT'S BASICALLY NO, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
THERE IS A, THERE'S ALWAYS A COST.
NO, THERE'S NO COST TO THE TOWN BECAUSE BASICALLY I DIDN'T SAY A COST.
WELL, WE NEED TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN.
WE NEED TO SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF ALL OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT, UM, MS. DAVIS WAS SAYING THERE.
THE FOUNDATION, I WILL USE CAB CALLAWAY AS AN EXAMPLE.
CAB CALLAWAY'S FOUNDATION WILL BE LENDING US THEIR INFORMATION TO DISPLAY THAT INFORMATION IS NOT FREE.
SO THERE IS A COST THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, LEASING THE INFORMATION.
WE'RE NOT GONNA OWN IT, WE'RE JUST GOING TO BE LEASING IT.
SO WHEN, WHEN IT WAS ASKED IF THE TOWN WOULD SUPPORT, WE WERE LOOKING FOR OUTSIDE, WE WERE LOOKING FOR OUTSIDE FUNDING WHEN IT CAME TO OUR, WHEN WE WERE MEETING FOR THE LEASING FOR ING.
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AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE HAD DECIDED THAT WE, UM, WE WERE GOING TO USE THE SECOND FLOOR.AND THAT'S WHERE THAT CAME IN AS FAR AS, UM, VISIBILITY.
IS IT, IS IT REAL VIS VISIBILITY? BUT THEY'RE UNAWARE THAT, UM, MS. BRACY WHITE HAS SHOWINGS AND ART SHOWINGS TWICE A TWICE A MONTH ON SATURDAY.
SO, UH, AGAIN, THAT IT'S ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO START OFF AS A BLACK HISTORY MONTH KICKOFF FOR IT TO BE DISPLAYED IN THE LIBRARY.
THEN AGAIN, WE WERE MAKING, UH, PLANS TO HAVE IT MOVED TO THE SECOND FLOOR.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE COST IS COMING FROM, THAT NOW THAT WE, AS WE ACQUIRE MORE PIECES OTHER THAN THE CAP CALLOWAY, AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE THE FUNDING IS, IS NEEDED.
AND IT WAS ASKED UPON IF THE, UH, TOWN OF GREENBURG WOULD, UM, CONTRIBUTE.
SO IS THERE A PROPOSAL? WE'RE NOT CONTRIBUTING.
IS THERE A PROPOSAL? ANY, ANY FINANCIALS? UH, BECAUSE NO, I KNOW, BUT YOU, NO ONE'S ANSWERING MY QUESTION.
IS THERE A PROPOSAL? THERE'S A, THERE IS A PROPOSAL.
CAN WE, CAN, IS THERE ANY WAY THAT THE TOWN BOARD, I DON'T, I GUESS YOU'VE SEEN IT 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
IS THERE ANY WAY THAT YOU CAN FORWARD IT SO THE REST OF THE TOWN BOARD CAN SEE IT? YES.
AND THE, AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
THIS, WHEN I FOUND OUT, BECAUSE KEN JONES WAS SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF THIS, WHEN I FOUND OUT THIS AFTERNOON, I SPENT ALL MY TIME TRYING TO GET ALL THESE RESOURCES BECAUSE OKAY, ONE THING I LEARNED A LONG TIME AGO, WHEN I COME BEFORE YOU, I'M COMING WITH EVERYTHING THAT I KNOW.
SO I, I DID PRINT SOMETHING TO BRING TO YOU.
UM, LLOYD WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THE PRESENTATION, BUT HE TOO WAS GIVEN VERY SHORT NOTICE.
SO, UM, CAN I JUST MAKE IT A LITTLE CLEARER FOR EVERYBODY? BASICALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT THE GOAL, WE'VE BEEN MEETING SINCE, I GUESS FOR SIX MONTHS OR SOMETHING.
SO WE HAVE A GROUP OF MAYBE 20 PEOPLE OR 30 PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN MEETING TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
WHEN WE ASKED HER THE SPACE AT TOWN HALL, SHE INDICATED THAT THE ONLY SPACE SHE COULD GIVE US IS THE SECOND FLOOR FLOOR BECAUSE SHE, THERE'S, BECAUSE, AND SHE SAID BASICALLY IT COULD BE FROM, UM, JANUARY UNTIL APRIL, BECAUSE THEN WOODLANDS, THEY HAVE AN EXHIBIT AND THEY HAVE THE YOUTH AND THEY WOULD TAKE IT DOWN FROM APRIL TO, UH, I GUESS JUNE OR IT'S EITHER JULY OR AUGUST.
AND THEN, AND THEN AFTER, WE WOULD HAVE ANOTHER EXHIBIT WITH DIFFERENT, AND THE COMMITTEE BASICALLY WILL CONSTANTLY COME UP WITH DIFFERENT MM-HMM
SO THIS EXHIBIT MAY BE A GENERAL ONE, UM, WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU TALKING ABOUT CAB CALLOWAY, VERNON JORDAN, I THINK, UH, WHO WAS THE HEAD OF THE, UH, UH, NATIONAL, I THINK URBAN LEAGUE, UH, GORDON PARKS, WHO'S WORLD FAMOUS.
UH, SO WE'LL WE'RE GONNA BE DOING A GENERAL ONE JUST HIGHLIGHTING WHO LIVED IN GREENBURG, WHO WAS, UH, WELL KNOWN, PROMINENT RESIDENT OF GREENBURG LATER ON.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION? UH, JUST TO BACKTRACK A LITTLE.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT, UH, OUR CLERK SAID IS THAT THE, WE RELEASING RIGHT NOW, WE ARE LEASING FROM CASH CAPITALLY.
AND THAT COST IS COVERED BY DONATIONS OR FUNDING OR FOUNDATION.
BUT GOING FORWARD FOR FUTURE, UH, FUTURE DISPLAYS THAT WE MIGHT IT'S A GREAT IDEA, THEN WE DON'T HAVE GUARANTEES THAT THERE'LL BE THAT FUNCTION.
YES, I DID, I SPOKE TO THE ROTARY CLUB, UM, THE DISTRICT 7, 2 3.
AND THEY INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD MAKE, I'M, I'M THEY COMMITTED TO LONG TERM PERMANENT FUNDING FOR THIS.
THIS IS GONNA BE A ROTARY CLUB, YOU KNOW, PROJECT.
SO THEY, THEY, SO THEY'VE EMAILED ME AND THEY SAID THAT THEY GUARANTEE THAT THEY WILL CONTRIBUTE.
SO WE COULD KEEP HAVING MORE AND MORE EXHIBITS AND, UM, AND THE ONLY OTHER, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE SOMETHING FROM THE ROTARY.
THAT'S IT ALL I DO HAVE, WE HAVE IT IN WRITING.
I'M SORRY, I HAVE IT IN WRITING.
CAN WE JUST PULL THIS? HA THIS, THIS MEETING IS BASICALLY OUTTA CONTROL BECAUSE ONCE AGAIN, WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA AND THE BOARD HAS NO INFORMATION.
APPARENTLY THIS IS GOING ON FOR SIX MONTHS.
WE'VE TALKING ABOUT SIX IN ADVANCE.
AND WHAT SOMEBODY APPRECIATE YOU SAYING, YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE YOU COME PREPARED.
I'VE BEEN TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR SIX MONTHS, BUT WE NEED IT IN ADVANCE.
WE NEED THIS, THE INFORMATION IN ADVANCE BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE JUST SPINNING OUR WHEELS HERE.
KEN CALLAWAY'S BIOGRAPHY IS PUBLIC RECORD.
WHY WE WOULD HAVE TO LEASE HIS BIOGRAPHY TO PUT IT ON SOME KIND OF A PANEL.
NO, WE CAN, MAY, MAY, BECAUSE THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE TO IT.
WAIT, JUST TO GET DOWN TO THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF IT, IF I'M HEARING YOU CORRECTLY, IN ORDER FOR YOU TO EVEN CONSIDER RELEASING ANY FI OR, OR ALLOWING,
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UM, WIN WINSOME TO PURSUE ANY TYPE OF OF FUNDING.YOU NEED TO SEE WHAT THE PLANS ARE.
SO THAT, THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE FOR THIS MEETING TONIGHT.
LIKE WE, WE DUNNO, THE PROPOSALS WE CAN'T WRITE AND THAT, AND THAT'S FINE.
AND, AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK THAT THAT'S SOMETHING, I THINK THAT'S THE NEXT STEP, STEP WE CAN DEFINITELY PROVIDE.
SO CAN WE TALK ABOUT A TIMELINE ON THAT IN TERMS OF, YOU MEAN GIVING THEM SOMETHING THE BOARD? YEAH.
AND THEN BEING ABLE TO COME BACK.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FEBRUARY 2ND, SO THATS VERY SOON.
THERE'S REALLY IN THE LIBRARY, BUT THE FUND NO, BUT ISN'T THE FUNDING TO PAY FOR THE PANELS THAT WELL, AND PAUL, CAN YOU PLEASE STEP JUST IT'S NOT LEASING.
BASIC WRONG INFORMATION FROM CALM DOWN, CALM DOWN.
JUST AS WHAT? JUST AS COUNCILWOMAN, UH, HABER AND HENDRICKS AND COUNCILMAN SHEHAN.
AND I, IT'S JUST LIKE ME COMING TO YOU AND SAYING, I GET IT JUST RIGHT.
SO WE'RE COMING TO ME AND, BUT, BUT WE HAVE NOTHING.
SO THEN WHAT I AM ASKING IS A TIMELINE.
NOW THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO PROVIDE YOU WITH SOMETHING.
SO WHOEVER DO YOU HAVE? UM, I'M VERY PROACTIVE.
I LEARNED THIS A LONG TIME AGO FROM STEVE BASS.
WHENEVER I COME BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD, I COME PREPARED.
I PREPARE STUFF THAT I DON'T EVEN NEED TO PREPARE.
SO GUESS WHAT? I REACHED OUT AND I GOT SOMETHING THAT I'M GONNA SHARE WITH THE BOARD.
THIS IS WHAT I GOT AND I'M GONNA SHARE IT WITH THE BOARD BECAUSE I THINK THEY NEED TO SEE IT.
AND WHEN DID YOU GET THAT? I GOT IT THIS EVENING.
RIGHT? YOU GOT IT? OR YOU CREATED, SHE CREATED.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT IT IS? UH, BECAUSE KEN, KEN WAS SUPPOSED TO PRESENT YOU WITH THIS STUFF, RIGHT? AND BECAUSE OF THIS, HE HAD A YEP.
HE DELEGATED TO LLOYD AND MYSELF.
GEORGE, MY BOSS COULD NOT BE HERE BECAUSE HE HAS A FAMILY MEMBER WHO'S HAVING SURGERY RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT I GOT THIS, THIS EVEN BECAUSE I CANNOT COME BEFORE YOU, UNLESS I HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE YOU.
UM, IT'S A PROPO $500, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
'CAUSE I LOOKED AT THE NUMBERS, SO I'M GONNA HAND IT TO YOU.
WE JUST, WE JUST NEED TO REVIEW IT.
I MEAN IT, I IS THIS THE DOCUMENT THAT KEN WOULD'VE PRO WOULD'VE PRESENTED TONIGHT? I'M, I THINK SO.
BUT YOU, SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING.
SO, WELL THIS IS THE ONLY REASON WHY I SAID WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GETTING.
SO UNFOR, YOU, YOU TOOK THE INITIATIVE ON YOUR OWN TO PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER.
BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR COMMITTEE WANTS TO, WANTS TO PRESENT TO US.
I'M ONLY INVOLVED SO HOLD, HOLD, HOLD ON ONE.
SO THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT.
BUT I GUESS IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE HAD IT FROM THE COMMITTEE SO WE EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE OF WHAT YOU'RE HANDING US SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
'CAUSE WHAT I FEEL IS GOING TO HAPPEN, YOU JUST GAVE US THIS, THEN THE COMMITTEE MAY COME WITH SOMETHING ELSE AND THEN YOU'RE GONNA BE ASKING, CAN YOU ORDER, CAN YOU APPROVE THIS? RIGHT.
BUT WE NEED TIME TO REVIEW IT AND TAKE IT AND, AND, AND TAKE IT IN.
BUT, AND THEN I HAVE TO ALSO MENTION THIS IS, THIS IS A VERY, VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC.
I AM NOT, BUT UM, WE DO HAVE SCHEDULED MEETINGS.
WE DO HAVE SCHEDULED MEETINGS THAT WE, WHO IS THIS? WE DO HAVE SCHEDULED MEETINGS THAT WE JUST NEED TO RIGHT.
'CAUSE WE'RE WAY BEHIND SCHEDULE.
BUT, SO IF I COULD, IF WE COULD ASK AND IF THE BOARD AGREES WITH ME, IF WE CAN HAVE YOUR COMMITTEE YES.
I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS IT, BUT CAN PREPARE SO WE KNOW WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AS TO WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
'CAUSE I DON'T 'CAUSE NO ONE CAN YOU HAVEN'T, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME YOU'VE SEEN THIS.
IF, IF THAT'S THE QUESTION, THIS IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED YOU TO REVIEW.
IF, IF THAT IS WHAT YOUR DECISION IN TERMS OF THEM BEING ABLE TO PURSUE PHILANTHROPIC FUNDS WILL BE.
SO WHERE'S THE, IS THIS, THIS IS NOT A PROPOSAL THOUGH.
SINCE, I'M SORRY, I THOUGHT THE FINANCES WERE IN THIS.
AND THE LIBRARY IS VERY MUCH INVOLVED AND I APPRECIATE IT.
I JUST, HI, CAN I ASK YOU A QUESTION? YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING UP RIGHT NOW.
ELLEN, YOU OKAY? MY QUESTION IS, ONCE YOU PULLED IT TOGETHER AND WE GET TO LOOK AT IT, WE WE'RE SHOOTING FOR FEBRUARY OF COURSE.
SO HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO FOR YOU TO TURN IT AROUND ONCE YOU HAVE OUR APPROVAL? WELL, WE COULD TURN IT AROUND IN IN FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE I, I HAVE IT RIGHT IN, IN FRONT OF ME.
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TAKE TO GET THE FUNDING? THAT'S THE QUESTION.UM, WHEN SUPERVISOR FINE APPROACHED US, HE WANTED $6,000 AND I TOLD HIM WE COULD NOT GIVE IT TO HIM UNLESS I GET THE BOARD APPROVAL.
SINCE THEN, SEVERAL FOUNDATIONS HAVE SHOWN INTERESTS AND THEY'RE WILLING TO GIVE THE MONEY.
THIS PROJECT IS NOT GONNA TAKE JUST 6,500.
IT'S GONNA TAKE A LOT MORE MONEY FOR SUSTAINABILITY.
SO WHAT'S THE 6,000 FOR? THE 6,000? HE WANTED IT TO COME FROM THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN OUR FOR WHAT? I'LL TELL, I COULD TELL YOU IF YOU LET ME INSTALLATION.
I HAVE, I HAVE THE, I HAVE THE FIRST CALL FOR THE FIRST INSTALLATION.
PAUL, WAIT, THE FIRST ASKING, ASKING QUESTIONS AND YOU DON'T LET ME ANSWER.
SO WHY DON'T I ANSWER IT? BASICALLY $6,000 IS FOR FRAMES AND, UH, DISPLAYS.
UH, FOR EXHIBIT PANELS, THEY EXPECT ABOUT $2,500 FOR, UH, EXHIBIT PANELS, LOGISTICS AND EXHIBIT TRANSPORTATION, ABOUT $500.
MARKETING AND OUTREACH, HAVING A WEBSITE DEVELOPMENT MAINTENANCE 15, CALL THIS RIGHT HERE.
AND INSTALLATION SUPPORT STAFF.
SO THIS IS JUST, SO WHAT, WHAT THE SUPERVISOR HAS JUST READ, IS THAT FOR JUST THE, THE DISPLAY AT THE LIBRARY? THE FIRST DISPLAY? OR IS THAT THE COST ONGOING? THE FIRST ONE? THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
IT'S ONLY INITIAL, THAT'S THE INITIAL EXHIBIT.
I, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS WITH, WITH THE COMMITTEE FOR SIX MONTHS.
I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOT, BUT WE, WITH MY TOUR SHARE, YOU SHOULDA SHARED IT WITH US.
I HAVE HERE IS YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR SIX MONTHS.
YOU KNOW, WHEN BLACK HISTORY MONTH IS COMING AND HERE WE ARE TWO WEEKS AWAY AND YOU'RE SAYING, HEY, TOWN BOARD, BECAUSE I'VE INVITED EVERYBODY ON THE TOWN BOARD TO PARTICIPATE IN THE COMMITTEE.
UH, LISA'S PARTICIPATING, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMITTEE.
SO THIS HAS NOT BEEN A SECRET.
AND YOU KNOW, IF, IF BOARD MEMBERS DON'T RESPOND, WE, WE'VE BEEN MOVING AHEAD WITHOUT, ALRIGHT.
I JUST HAVE A LOGISTICAL QUESTION, BUT I'VE INVITED EVERYBODY.
OKAY, SO THIS, THIS, THIS CAN, YOU DON'T, CAN, CAN I JUST ASK MY QUESTION PLEASE.
SO, BUT EVEN WITH OUR APPROVAL WITHOUT APPROVAL, THAT'S, THIS IS TWO WEEKS AWAY.
SO THE ACTUAL FIRST EXHIBIT AT THE LIBRARY, RIGHT? MM-HMM
HOW IS THAT GONNA BE COMPLETE? HOW WILL THE PANELS, THE ACTUAL PANELS BE COMPLETED IN TIME? THAT'S LIKE SO QUICK.
HOW, HOW ARE THEY GONNA TURN IT AROUND? YES.
I THINK THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT THE MONEY AND, AND I GO AHEAD.
I, I HEARD ELLEN, SO REGARDING THE ACTUAL CREATION PART MM-HMM
I HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN, BUT I BELIEVE THE EXPECTATION WAS THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE MONEY TO THEN DO THE PRINTING AND EVERYTHING.
IF NOT, WE MAY HAVE TO BE FRONTED THE MONEY UNTIL SOMETHING COMES THROUGH.
BUT THE IDEA, I DON'T MEAN THE MONEY THOUGH, I MEAN THE ACTUAL PRODUCTION.
HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE? OH, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
THAT DOESN'T, SO THEY, THEY'VE ALREADY, UM, LOCKDOWN SOMEONE WHO'S AGREED TO DO THE PANELS.
SO THAT PART OF IT IN TERMS OF WHO'S GOING TO DO IT AND HOW LONG THE TURNAROUND IS.
YEAH, THEY'VE ALREADY GOT THAT.
I BELIEVE THE PANELS HAVE TO GO OUT BY FRIDAY MORNING.
SO WE'RE GETTING THIS PROPOSAL.
THEY COMPLETED, THIS IS A VERY FAST TURNAROUND.
DO WHAT WAS THE PROCESS IN GETTING SOMEBODY IN TERMS OF, OF WHO THEY CHOSE TO, TO PRINT IT.
I THINK THEY, THEY NEED SOME ARTISTIC CAPABILITIES OR WHAT? OR JUST PRINTING.
IS THAT PART OF WHAT THIS IS THE, UM, THE APPROVAL PROCESS.
JUST WANNA UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS.
WE DON'T, WE THIS YEAH, THIS IS LIKE, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD'VE THOUGHT THAT WAIT, WAIT.
THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD'VE THOUGHT AS A BOARD, WE WOULD'VE RECEIVED A PROPOSAL, FULL PROPOSAL LIKE THIS, LIKE TWO MONTHS AGO.
AT AT LEAST LIKE, THIS IS, THIS IS SO SHORT TO TURN THIS AROUND.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING ALL THESE QUESTIONS, TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS.
WHAT HAS THE PROCESS BEEN? WHAT ARE THE COSTS? WHAT'S THE PRODUCTION SCHEDULE? WE DON'T DEAL IT WITH SARAH BRACY.
SHE'S BEEN DOING THESE ART EXHIBITS FOR, FOR YEARS HERE.
WE NEVER HAVE TO GET HER PERMISSION.
DON'T, SARAH, THIS IS NOT SARAH'S, THIS IS DIFFERENT THOUGH.
SPECIFICALLY TAKE SARAH AS NAMES YOU DON'T WANNA DO SPECIFICALLY.
WE DIDN'T SAY WE DON'T WANNA DO IT.
PAUL, DON'T DO ALL THESE OBSTACLES.
DON'T, WE'RE DOING ALL THE OBSTACLE DOING OUR HOMEWORK AS WE SHOULD.
YOU DIDN'T PROVIDE THE HOMEWORK.
SO THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT WE NEED TO ASK.
THERE'S TO THE SO PLEASE STOP SAYING, GIVE THE IMPRESSION TO EVERYONE THAT WE DON'T CARE AND WE DON'T WANT THIS.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'VE BEEN I UNDERSTAND, BUT THERE'S NO CONTROVERSY.
SHOULD BE NO CONTROVERSY REGARDLESS.
NO CONTROVERSY CELEBRATING THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN.
I REALLY JUST, IS THAT WHAT THIS IS? OF CELEBRATING THE HISTORY OF THE TOWN.
CAN WE NOT HISTORY? I THOUGHT IT WAS BLACK HISTORY.
CAN WE NOT, MAY I SAY SOMETHING? YES.
UM, NUMBER ONE, MR. SUPERVISOR, UM, YOU MENTIONED RATHER, UH, IN A WRAP THEIR UPSET FASHION THAT WE COULD HAVE ATTENDED MEETINGS.
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YOU ATTENDED THE MEETING JUST AS WHERE THE LIAISON TO DIFFERENT COMMITTEES AND WHEN THERE'S SOMETHING OF NOTE TO REPORT TO EITHER THE BOARD OR IN THE, THE GENERAL PUBLIC, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN ON THE SESSION.NUMBER TWO, MY QUESTION AGAIN, NOT WHEN THE PRODUCTION IS GOING TO START.
UM, HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO MAKE UP THE PANELS FOR, TO SPREAD AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO HAVE ALL OF THAT TOGETHER.
SOUNDS LIKE MR. SUPERVISOR, YOU PROVIDE INFORMATION, BUT SINCE WE ARE JUST HEARING ABOUT IT NOW, IT'S, IT'S JUST COMING VERBALLY AND, AND FITS AND STARTS AND OUT SEQUENCE.
SO IT REALLY MAKE A LOT OF SENSE FOR US TO HAVE A WHOLE, UH, PRESENTATION FROM START TO FINISH IN ONE DOCUMENT OR ONE PRESENTATION IN ENOUGH TIME TO THEN MAKE THE DECISION AND IN THE ENOUGH TIME FOR US TO, TO HAVE THIS DISPLAY BLACK HISTORY.
UM, SUPERVISOR FINDER, MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD.
I, I DO WANNA SAY, I DO UNDERSTAND YOUR POSITION THAT YOU WOULD'VE PREFERRED, NOT EVEN PREFERRED.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER FOR THIS TO HAVE BEEN PRESENTED SOME MONTHS AGO.
SO THAT ALL, ALL OF THE KNOWLEDGE THAT YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO MAKE A DECISION REGARDING, UM, WHETHER OR NOT WINSOME CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH GETTING FUNDING.
YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY TO US, WELL, YOU KNOW, THIS PART, NOT THAT PART.
HERE'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES, UM, FOR THE MONEY OR WHATEVER THE CASE BE.
BUT A, THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
THERE IS SORT OF A, UM, INEXPERIENCE.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT WE'VE MOVED FORWARD TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING.
SO, UM, I, I DO NEED, GO AHEAD.
UM, SO, SO THE, A LITTLE BIT OF GRACE IN TERMS OF THE INEXPERIENCE OF HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE TOGETHER IN THE FIRST PLACE TO BE ABLE TO MEET EVERY WEEK.
TO BE ABLE TO SAY TO PEOPLE, DO YOU HAVE INFORMATION? I'M STILL MAKING PHONE CALLS TO SOME OF MY FRIENDS WHO I KNOW HAVE, HAVE, WHO HAVE LIVED HERE FOR GENERATIONS.
DO YOU HAVE PICTURES? AND REALLY PULLING PEOPLE TOGETHER TO BE INTERESTED IN THIS MM-HMM
SO THERE WAS THAT SORT OF, THAT WHOLE UPHILL THING.
AND NOW HERE WE ARE, THIS IS TRUE IN FEBRUARY, WE DIDN'T WANNA PUT IT OFF ANY LONGER.
AGAIN, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE THE FULLEST DISPLAY THAT WE CAN, BUT WE DID WANNA DO SOMETHING FOR FEBRUARY.
SAY THAT THE END OF FEBRUARY MIGHT BE MORE REALISTIC THAN IN 10 DAYS.
IT'S 10, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 10 DAYS FROM NOW.
AND FOR, FOR, FOR WINSOME TO BE ABLE TO GET FUND.
I MEAN SHE, SHE'S ASKING FOR OUR APPROVAL.
ANY R APPROVAL FOR SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STILL JUST LEARNING ABOUT IN ITS FULLEST ENTIRETY RIGHT NOW? MM-HMM
SUPERVISOR HAS MENTIONED THIS CONCEPT, BUT WITH NO DETAILS.
RIGHT? NOT THAT THIS WAS GONNA HAPPEN FEBRUARY 2ND OR ANY, I MEAN WE'VE HAD NO DETAILS.
I, I DIDN'T THINK, I THINK WE NEED THINK PART OF, TO GET DETAILS OF WHERE THERE'S NO CONTRIBUTIONS THAT WE'RE ASKING THE TOWN TO MAKE.
WE'RE NOT ASKING THE TOWN FOR ONE POUND.
NO, SHE, SHE'S GOT, FIRST OF ALL, FIRST OF ALL, I HAVE COMMITMENTS FROM THE ROTARY CLUB TO PAY FOR THE WHOLE THING FOR, SO WE DON'T EVEN NEED, SO WE DON'T NEED WINSTON'S UH, UH, DOING ANYTHING BECAUSE ROTARY'S WILLING TO FUND THE INITIAL PROJECT AND TAKE DO YOU HAVE IT IN WRITING? I DO HAVE IT IN WRITING.
SO THAT BEING SENT, YOU SUBMIT THAT TO US AS WELL.
SO THAT BEING SAID, THE, THE APPRO THE PORTION THAT WINSOME IS COMING TO YOU BEFORE, UH, FOR, FOR WE CAN THEN PROVIDE THE DETAIL THAT YOU NEED FOR FUTURE.
DOES THAT SOUND FAIR? WE NEED INFORMATION.
RIGHT? DOES THAT SOUND FAIR? WELL JUST SEND IT TO US.
JUST SEND IT TO US SO WE CAN READ IT.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIGEST EVERYTHING.
GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO DIGEST.
SO IS THERE ANYTHING, PLEASE DON'T, IS THERE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? BECAUSE WE, WE STILL NEED TO GET THE INFORMATION.
WEELL, SO WINSOME, LESLIE, LISA, IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION AND THE REASON WHY I'M CALLING YOU BECAUSE YOU JUST, WE JUST LEARNED TODAY THAT YOU'RE ON THAT COMMITTEE.
IF YOU CAN SEND US AN THAT INFORMATION SO WE CAN REVIEW IT.
AGAIN, I AM NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A TOPIC OF IMPORTANCE.
I DO HAVE TO STICK TO THE SCHEDULE BECAUSE WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT WE NEED TO MEET WITH.
SO IF THERE IS, IF THERE'S, THERE'S NOTHING MORE WE CAN DO HERE NOW BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED THE INFORMATION, SO WE WOULD NEED TO GET BACK TO YOU.
THIS WILL AND LESLIE, I, LESLIE, LESLIE, THERE WAS NO CRITICISM OF YOU.
IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.
SO PLEASE DON'T ME DON'T THINK THAT I WAS CRITICIZING YOU.
I WAS JUST ASKING FOR THE FULL PICTURE.
LEMME JUST, JUST READ CLERK WANTED TO GIVE SOME INFORMATION.
LEMME JUST READ TWO PARAGRAPHS.
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I SAID DIS DISTRICT GOVERNOR.PAUL, I PROMISE YOU WE HAVE TO MOVE ON.
I'M JUST READING IT BECAUSE EVERYBODY SAYS DO I HAVE AN IN WRITING DISTRICT GOVERNOR.
I'M 45 YEAR TOWN RESIDENT ED RAHI AND I ARE PLEASED TO SHARE THE RESULTS OF OUR IN INFORMATIONAL MEETING WITH THE LOCAL ROTARY CLUB LEADERSHIP.
I HAVE SENT THEM THE SIDE DECK AND THE SAMPLE PANELS.
THE, UH, THESE ARE OUR CURRENT AND FUTURE LEADERS, BOTH WITHIN GREENBURG AND OUTSIDE OUR GREENBURG.
UH, OUR DISTRICT COVER IS WESTCHESTER, BRONX, MANHATTAN, STATEN ISLAND, AND BERMUDA.
WE EXPECT TO DONATE $6,000 TO FULLY FUND THE SEED MONEY AS REQUESTED BY YOU ALL.
UM, MOREOVER, ALL THE LEADERS LOOK FORWARD TO INTERACTIVE EVENTS, WHICH INCLUDE THEIR MEMBERS TO GIVE THEM MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO INFORM AND EDUCATE THE CATTER OF MEMBERS AND SUPPORTERS AS WELL.
AND THEN THEY HAD SOME CONCERNS AND THEY SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S MORE VISIBLE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THAT MAY BE, UM, WE COULD EXPLORE INSTEAD OF HAVING IT ON SECOND FLOOR, LOOKING AT THE AUDITORIUM OVER HERE, BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE MORE VISIBLE.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE REALLY PROUD OF BECAUSE, BUT NOT 10 DAYS BEFORE.
NO, BUT I'M SAYING THE GREENBERG HISTORY, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY IS SO RICH IN THE TOWN AND SO IMPORTANT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE, WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT, THAT WE SHOULD BE CELEBRATING IT.
AND EVERYBODY WHO COMES HERE SHOULD SAY, I'M PROUD TO LIVE IN A TOWN AND BE PART OF THE TOWN.
WE HAVE JUST HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION.
I JUST WANT, I JUST WANNA BE, DO I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR DON'T PUT THOSE, DON'T PUT THOSE FALSE NARRATIVES NARRATIVE OUT THERE.
WELL, WE'LL SEE IF THE EXHIBIT GOES UP.
AND THEN YOU CAN BLAME ME AS YOU ARE ALWAYS DO.
THAT I PROMISE YOU CAN WE NEED TO MOVE ON PEOPLE.
TO, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, AND THIS IS IN, UM, JUST IN, I THOUGHT THE PURPOSE OF GETTING ON THE AGENDA WAS TO ASK THE TOWN MOVING FORWARD ABOUT USING FUNDS FOR THE BLACK MUSEUM.
I WAS NOT UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT WE WERE ON THE AGENDA TO GET THE FUNDS FOR FEBRUARY 2ND.
NOT UNLESS I AM, I WAS MISINFORMED.
SO, SO AT THIS POINT, UM, SORRY FOR THE MISUNDERSTANDING, BUT AT THIS POINT IT IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
SO IN TERMS OF IT'S NOT HAPPENING TONIGHT.
UM, THE FUNDS ARE NOT FOR THE FEBRUARY 2ND OR THE FEBRUARY 8TH.
I CAME HERE TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT I WAS ASKED TO GET FUNDING AND I WANNA GET THEIR PERMISSION BEFORE I PURSUE ANY FUNDING.
NOW I'VE SEEN SLIDES THAT HAS BEEN DONE.
BEAUTIFUL SLIDES THAT SOMEBODY WORKED ON THESE FLY SLIDES AND THEY SEEM TO BE READY.
CAN THE MUSEUM STILL, CAN THEY STILL MOVE THE EXHIBITS FEBRUARY? WELL, THEY ALREADY HAVE IT.
THEY ALREADY HAVE IT SCHEDULED FOR THE LIBRARY, SO THEY CAN'T BE DONE THERE.
BUT WE, BUT WE'RE NOT PART OF THAT.
THAT THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE LIBRARY.
I THINK, I THINK WE SHOULD STILL SEE THE SLIDES.
I'M NOT SAYING WE DON'T, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT.
BUT YOU STILL HAVE A COMMITMENT WITH THE LIBRARY, RIGHT? YES, WE DO.
IT'S THE LIBRARY WE DO ON THIS AT THE ON FOR THE I'M TALKING ABOUT JUST FOR THE SECOND.
THE SECOND AND THEN THE EIGHTH HERE.
AND THEN THE EIGHTH AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE MONTH.
AND THEN AFTER, AFTER THEN YOU'LL MOVE IT HERE? NO, NO, NO, NO.
OR MOVE IT WHEREVER YOU'RE TRYING TO MOVE IT TO.
NO, YOU'RE IT'S MOVING FROM THE LIBRARY TO HERE.
WE JUST SEE, WE JUST, WE WE HAVE NO, WE HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING.
I JUST YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THAT? I DON'T UNDERSTAND PERMISSIONS.
UM, I'LL DO IT WHEN I'M IN THERE IN THE EXECUTIVE SESSION.
WE HAVE TO DO AGENDA REVIEW BEFORE FIVE MINUTES.
JUST GIVE FIVE MINUTES BEFORE I PROMISE.
IS THERE SOMEWHERE I CAN START? YES, RIGHT THERE.
I WAS WATCHING AS I WAS TRYING TO RUSH OVER HERE, SO I APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION.
SO TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE, THE REASON WHY WE WERE MEETING OR WE ASKED TO BE PLACED ON THE AGENDA TODAY WASN'T SPECIFICALLY FOR THE TOWN TO RELEASE FUNDING FOR THIS EXHIBIT.
THAT'S WHAT WE JUST DISCUSSED.
SO, SO BECAUSE WE HOPE TO CREATE, UH, BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM IN PERPETUITY, THE IDEA IS THAT WE WILL HAVE SEVERAL FUNDING SOURCES FOR VARIOUS STAGES OF THE MUSEUM.
NOW, WITH REGARDS TO THE COMPLICATION OF THE BOARD
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NOT RECEIVING A PROPOSAL PREVIOUSLY, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING IN TANDEM WITH THE SUPERVISOR'S OFFICE FOR THE SAKE OF CREATING THE COMMITTEE AND HAVING THE PANELS AND THE EXHIBITS READY.SO WITH REGARDS TO THE DESIGN, UH, YOU, THE TOWN HISTORIANS, THE HASTINGS HISTORICAL SOCIETY, THE GREENBURG PUBLIC LIBRARY, UM, SCARSDALE HISTOR OR REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE SCARSDALE HISTORICAL SOCIETY, CAB CALLOWAY FOUNDATION, AMONGST MANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS HAVE BEEN PARTNERING WITH US TO PULL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER SO THAT WE'LL HAVE AN EXHIBIT AVAILABLE.
SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING FEVERISHLY SINCE, I WANNA SAY DECEMBER, ONCE WE FINALIZE THE EXHIBITS AND THE TARGET LISTS AND THE LIKE.
SO OUR APOLOGIES BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH SUPERVISOR FINER, WE, UM, HAVEN'T, I, I SHOULDN'T SAY WE HAVEN'T CONSIDERED THE FACT THAT IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN WORTHWHILE TO INCLUDE THE REST OF THE BOARD.
IT'S NOT JUST WORTHWHILE, IT'S NECESSARY.
IF, IF YOU DON'T MIND, I I UNDERSTAND THAT NOW.
BUT THE FACT THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE SUPERVISOR, YOU UNDERSTAND WHY WE THOUGHT YES, ALL THE BASE WOULD BE COVERED.
RIGHT NOW WITH REGARDS TO WHERE THE EXHIBIT IS GOING TO BE, THE PLAN IS FOR IT TO BE EXHIBITED AT BOTH THE LIBRARY AND AT TOWN HALL AND THE SECOND FLOOR WHERE ARTWORK IS CURRENTLY EXHIBITED.
AND BEYOND THAT WHERE THERE'S TYPICALLY NO EXHIBIT.
SO WE'RE NOT INTERRUPTING ANY PROCESSES THAT ALREADY EXIST WITHIN THE TOWN.
UM, THAT SPACE HAS BEEN EARMARKED AND WITH RESPECT TO THE REQUEST TO USE THIS PARTICULAR AREA, WE ALREADY HAVE THAT AREA DESIGNATED AND WE RESIGNED OURSELVES TO THE FACT THAT IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE SECOND FLOOR.
SO WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO IMPOSE UPON ANY TYPICAL ROUTINES THAT YOU, YOU TEND TO HAVE.
UM, SO AS FAR AS THE FUNDING IS CONCERNED, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEIR INTERESTED PARTIES THAT TYPICALLY WORK WITH THE PHILANTHROPY OFFICE AND THEY HAVE DEMONSTRATED SOME INTEREST IN SUPPORTING THE INITIATIVE OVERALL.
AND WHAT WINSOME I BELIEVE IS ASKING IS THAT YOU WOULD SAY OKAY, FOR THE PHIL, THE TOWN PHILANTHROPY OFFICE TO WORK WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS SO THAT THEY COULD SUPPORT THE INITIATIVE.
SO WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR TAXPAYER FUNDS, WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR MONIES THAT HAS BEEN EARMARKED FOR ANYTHING ELSE.
THESE PARTIES ARE INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING THE MUSEUM MM-HMM
BECAUSE CONCEPTUALLY THEY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE AND THEY RECOGNIZE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD WITHIN THE TOWN.
AND, AND THAT'LL MAKE PAUSE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.
BUT WHAT IS SORT OF THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE FOR WINSOME TO COME TO ASK FOR FUNDING FOR A FUTURE INITIATIVE THAT WE KNOW REALLY NOTHING ABOUT.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY ISSUE.
LIKE IT'S NOTHING TO DO WITH US OBSTRUCTION, PROCESS'S ISSUE.
TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU FOR FUNDS.
WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU UNDERSTAND NO.
FOR FUNDS, IT'S NOT EVEN ABOUT THESE, THESE PARTIES ARE INTERESTED IN SUPPORTING THIS INITIATIVE.
THEY'RE NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE TOWN.
THEY MIGHT HAVE SUPPORTED OTHER TOWN INITIATIVES IN THE PAST.
BUT THIS ISN'T TAXPAYER MONEY.
THIS HAS BEEN PUT ASIDE, UH, OR OR AMARK SPECIFICALLY FOR PROJECTS LIKE THIS.
THEY BECOME AWARE OF THE PROJECT VIA THE PROPOSALS THAT, UH, WE'VE SENT OUT AND THEY HAVE AN INTEREST IN SUPPORTING.
SO WINSOME HAD A LITTLE BIT OF TREPIDATION WITH REGARDS TO MOVING FORWARD MM-HMM
WANTED TO APPROACH THE TOWN BOARD.
SHE'S SUPPOSED TO ASK PERMISSION MM-HMM
TO BE ABLE TO ADVANCE THE PROJECT FORWARD.
SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY THAT'S WATCHING THIS VIDEO, THIS, THIS, THIS FEED TO ASSUME THAT WE'RE TAKEN AWAY FROM ANY TAXPAYER FUNDING OR IMPOSING UPON THE BOARD TO SUPPORT THIS INITIATIVE FINANCIALLY.
THERE'S SOME MONEY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED THAT COULD BE USED, BUT BECAUSE IT'S THROUGH THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE TOWN PHILANTHROPY OFFICE, THE APPROPRIATE THING TO DO IS TO ASK PERMISSION.
SO I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO FEEL THAT THE SCHEDULE IS SOMEHOW ON A TIGHT, UH, TIGHT TIMELINE.
THAT'S, THAT'S OUR, UM, RESPONSIBILITY.
AND WE'RE GOING TO DELIVER THE MUSEUM IN TIME FOR FEBRUARY 2ND.
THE TOWN'S DECISION WILL NOT HINDER THAT PROCESS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
SO, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S PRECLUDING THE, THE TOWN ACTUALLY EVEN WENT THE TOWN BOARD OTHER THAN THE SUPERVISOR WEIGHING IN ON WHAT THIS IS GOING TO BE WHERE IT'S HOUSED RIGHT HERE IN TOWN HALL.
I I, THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT.
I THINK WE JUST, I THINK WE'RE JUST REHASHING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
WE'VE REALLY BEFORE ARE BEFORE, BEFORE WE REALLY HAVE TO GO, LIKE BEFORE WE MOVE ON WITH THIS, WITH REGARDS TO WHERE IT'S GONNA BE HOUSED, THE SPACE WAS IDENTIFIED, NOT WE,
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WHAT IS UNDERSTAND THAT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DISCUSS EXHIBIT ITSELF.WELL, YOU, YOU SING IT, BUT TO THAT POINT, AND I JUST WANNA KIND OF STOP THAT.
THE SECOND FLOOR EXHIBIT THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS IS AN EXHIBIT.
LIKE THERE WAS OTHER EXHIBITS UP THERE AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT PROCESS NORMALLY IS WITH SARAH.
IF SHE RUNS ALL OF EVERYTHING THAT GOES UP THROUGH YOU GUYS MM-HMM
SO TO THE POINT YOU'RE ASKING, DO THEY APPROVE THE ROAD THAT GOES ON THE WALL, RIGHT? NO, BUT SO IT'S THE SAME.
NO, BUT WE'VE HAD OTHER SITUATIONS SUPERVISOR WHERE THERE HAS NOT BEEN AN APPROPRIATE APPROVAL PROCESS AND THAT HAS CREATED QUITE A BIT OF DIVISION IN THE TOWN.
SO I THINK WE NEED, BUT I DON'T WANT, AND I KIND OF THOUGHT THAT MIGHT COME UP UNDERSTAND, AND I REALLY DON'T WANT US TO BE PUT INTO THAT.
I UNDERSTAND YOUR CONCERN, DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS, DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.
WHAT I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO, SINCE WE DO WANT THE EXHIBIT TO BE AN EVENT FOR THE TOWN AND THE COMMUNITY, I WOULD PREFER NOT TO AIR IT OUT DURING A PUBLIC WORK SESSION OR, OR A CONVENTIONAL MEETING.
I WILL BE HAPPY TO SEND THE PANELS IN ADVANCE FOR CONSIDERATION.
ONE THING I WILL ASK FROM A COMMITMENT FROM THE BOARD, I'VE HAD EXPERIENCE WHERE I SEND EMAILS AND I DON'T GET A RESPONSE BACK.
SO, OR DO WE WANNA MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR A ZOOM MEETING TO DISCUSS THE PANEL AND THE DETAILS OR ANYTHING TO THAT EXTENT? I THINK WE NEED TO SEE A PROPOSAL, BUT WE'RE BACK TO WHERE WE WERE BEFORE.
WE NEED TO SEE WHAT IS THE PROPOSAL.
SO THE, YOU'RE ASKING TO USE TOWN HALL? WE ARE THE TOWN BOARD.
WE NEED TO SEE A PROPOSAL FOR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU WANT THIS IN PERPETUITY? NOPE.
TO BE CLEAR, THIS IS GOING TO EXIST.
WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THERE'S NO PROPOSAL.
CAN WE, CAN WE GET JUST, WE GET AN STANDING.
MR. MR. SNAGS, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN HERE.
I PROMISE YOU WE DO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT, IF YOU COULD JUST WRITE UP EXACTLY WHAT YOUR PROPOSAL IS AND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, THEN WE CAN READ IT AND THEN WE CAN GET BACK TO YOU.
WE, WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WAITING AND WAITING AND I JUST REALLY NEED TO MOVE THIS ON.
CAN I JUST ASK YOU A QUE LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.
COULD WE, COULD WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TOMORROW? WORK SESSION TOMORROW? YOU KNOW, LIKE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK? NO.
HOW YOU CAN, YOU CAN, YOU CAN WE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NOTHING.
THE TOWN WAREHOUSE TO DO THE CAMP CALLAWAY IS NOT CONTROVERSIAL.
HAVING UP HIM AND A BIOGRAPHY.
MS. JACKSON, CAN YOU PLEASE, YOU'RE MAKING THIS.
WE WILL PROVIDE, WE'LL PROVIDE, WE NEED A PROPOSAL.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT SHOULD GO ON THIS WORK SESSION AGENDA THAT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S ABOUT.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS GOING TO BE ABOUT THE SECOND FLOOR OF THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
IT OBVIOUSLY ISN'T, BUT I HAD NO OTHER WAY OF KNOWING BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND THERE ON THE SECOND FLOOR, THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT HAVING THE HISTORY OF AFRICAN AMERICANS IN GREENBURG.
I THINK IT'S NO DIFFERENT, BUT I TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
AND THE WAY THIS EVEN DISCUSSION STARTED WAS LLOYD TALKING ABOUT DESIGNATING PARKWAY HOMES AND PARKWAY GARDENS ABOUT BEING A HISTORIC DISTRICT, WHICH I UNDERSTAND IS CONTROVERSY OVER.
SO WE NEED A PROPOSAL AND I, I DON'T KNOW, WE'RE JUST SPINNING OUR WHEELS AND I CAN, WE SEEMS AGENDA REVIEW A COMPLETION OF IDEAS SO WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING.
WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH A PROPOSAL, WE'LL PROVIDE YOU WITH THE PROPOSED PANELS AS WELL.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD SCHEDULE A MEETING? WE'LL LET YOU KNOW.
WE HAVE FULL TIME JOBS, SO UNDERSTAND OPERATING AS A VOLUNTEER, NOT A, OR BE BOARD.
SO THEN COULD WE PUT THIS, WE'LL PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR NEXT WEEK, FOR NEXT TUESDAY.
CAN WE JUST, CAN WE GIVE US A CHANCE TO, CAN WE, WE GET, WE, WE WILL GET THE PROPOSAL AND ALL THE INFORMATION REQUESTED TONIGHT AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON FROM THERE.
HAVE AGENDA? WE HAVE AGENDA REVIEW.
I HAD ASKED, UH, ON TO BEFORE.
HOLD ON, HOLD ON, HOLD ON PLEASE.
WE HAVE, I THINK WE'RE NOW AN HOUR LATE ON OUR MOVE.
AND WE HAVE, WE HAVE, WE HAD PEOPLE WAITING FOR US.
SO WE NEED TO GET SOMEONE TO MAKE SOME CONTACT.
THE PEOPLE THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO BE, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE INTERVIEW.
DOES ANY, UM, UM, ALRIGHT, SO WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT.
WE NEED TO, ARE YOU ALRIGHT? CAN WE DO, CAN WE START A GENDER REVIEW
WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT NOW.
NO, I, I ASKED TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND OKAY.
WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT WELL, LET ASK LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
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MEETING, WE PUT IT IN THE BUDGET LAST, LAST YEAR.WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
ASKED THAT TO BE PUT ON THE AGENDA.
WHY DOESN'T SHE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA WHEN I MAKE A REQUEST IN A TIMELY MANNER.
YOU DIDN'T I LOOK, LOOK AT WHERE WE ARE WITHOUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
NO, SHE ALREADY SAID IT WAS TOO.
NO, I HAD RESPONDED TO LET, CAN I JUST ASK THE BOARD, UH, FOR, UH, CLARIFICATION.
IN THE PAST, ANY BOARD MEMBER, IF THEY WANTED TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA, IT WOULD GO ON THE AGENDA.
I SPECIFICALLY SAID LAST WEEK WE HAD A LENGTHY DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, THE OPERATIONS PERSON AND I SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT? IF THE BOARD WANTS TO CHANGE THE TITLE OR LOOK AT THE JOB DESCRIPTION, THEY CAN.
I'M ASKING, UH, WHEN WE COULD DISCUSS THAT.
I BELIEVE SHE RESPONDED IT WAS TOO FULL AND WE COULDN'T FIT IT IN THIS TIME.
SO THEN COULD WE PUT IT ON, COULD WE ALL AGREE THAT IT GOES ON THE AGENDA NEXT WEEK? YES.
NEXT WEEK AND NOBODY WILL TAKE IT OFF OR SPEAK TO HOLLY AND SAY, UNLESS HOLLY SAYS THERE'S TOO MUCH ALREADY, THEN YOU KNOW, THE THING IS WE FUNDED, WE HAVE STUFF GOING ON, NOT THE THING.
WE'RE NOT PUT THIS, WE JUST PUT THIS UP, TIED UP THIS ITEM THAT WE JUST DID NOT OPERATIONS.
NOW WE GOT, SO HOW MUCH TIME DO WE DEVOTE TO THAT? WELL, ALRIGHT, LET'S DO THE PLEASE.
LET, LET HOLLY HANDLE THE AGENDA.
I'VE ASKED HER TO PUT THAT ON THE AGENDA DOESN'T GO ON.
CAN WE GO WITH THE AGENDA PLEASE? IS THERE ANYTHING ON THE AGENDA? CAN SOMEONE, CAN WE START REVIEW ON THE AGENDA? LET'S START PLEASE.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS, ALL OF THE BOND RESOLUTIONS HAVE BEEN TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA.
YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THEM, I REALIZED THAT THE WORDING HAD SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES AND, UH, AND SO BOND COUNCIL IS GOING TO GET US THE RESOLUTIONS FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
SO THAT'S IN CASE ANYBODY'S WONDERING, WE HAD 23 BOND RESOLUTIONS ON THERE.
THERE'S NO SENSE LISTING 'EM AND PUTTING, HELD OVER ON EACH ONE OF THEM.
WE'LL JUST DO IT AND, UH, IN TWO WEEKS OR THE NEXT TIME COORDIN MEETING.
SO FOR THE UM, UH, LIAISON REPORTS, WE'RE EACH GONNA REPORT ON ONE COMMITTEE, CORRECT.
IS THAT WHAT WE'VE DECIDED? YES, SO YES.
I NEED TO STEP AWAY FOR A SECOND.
UM, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, UM, PRESENTATIONS AND, UM, IT SAYS 30 MINUTES.
IS THAT THE 30 MINUTES FOR WHAT? SUSAN SEAL.
SUSAN SEAL SCHEMATIC DESIGN PLANS FOR ODELL RO SHAMBO MUSEUM.
AND I DID NOT THINK THAT THAT PRESENTATION BELONGS THERE.
THAT WOULD BE A WORK SESSION ITEM, WOULDN'T IT? I, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY I'M QUESTIONING IT.
IT'S NOT A PUB, IT'S NOT A PUBLIC HEARING.
IT'S NOT A, IT IT COULD GO IN EITHER CASE.
I'M NOT SURE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU HOW IT GOT ON THIS AGENDA.
I THINK SHE ASKED US MON MONTHS AGO FOR 30 MINUTES THOUGH.
WHAT IS THIS? THE ODELL, UH, ROSHAMBO MUSEUM PRESENTATION.
I THOUGHT THE NICO, WE AGREED THE MAX PRESENTATIONS COULD ONLY BE 15 MINUTES.
DID I MISS SOMETHING? 10 MINUTES? WELL THAT'S, THAT'S, I THINK IT'S SO SIGNIFICANT WHAT SHE'S DOING THAT SHE BASICALLY WANTS THE PUBLIC TO BE ABLE TO, UM, HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING BASICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING.
THEY'RE GONNA OPEN IT UP IN OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR AND IT'S EXCITING.
SHE WAS JUST, WELL, WHEN DID SHE CONVEY IT WAS GONNA BE 30 MINUTES? TO WHO? SHE DIDN'T SAY IT TO ME THE 30 MINUTES.
MAYBE SHE'S MENTIONED IT TO HOLLY.
I'M WE DO, WE WE DO ONLY HAVE TWO VERY SHORT, UM, PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THE FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICTS AND WE'RE NOT HAVING THE A BL ON THIS MEETING.
IT'S GONNA BE IN THE NEXT MEETING.
SO THAT WILL SHORTEN THE MEETING QUITE A BIT BY NOT HAVING, I'M HERE.
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M THE LIAISON TO MULTIPLE.
IT MAY BE THAT THERE ARE SMALL ITEMS ON MORE THAN ONE.
I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO BE LIMITED TO JUST ONE.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IF THERE'S NOTHING SIGNIFICANT, WE'RE NOT GONNA REPORT ON IT.
BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AT THE SAME TIME, SOMETHING GOING ON WITH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST MAKE A BRIEF COMMENT ABOUT IT.
WELL, WE, I THOUGHT WE HAD DECIDED WE WERE GONNA DO IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
EITHER WOULD DO MULTIPLES OR I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT I DIDN'T, UH, I MUSTN'T HAVE BEEN PART OF THAT.
NO, I DON'T THINK WE CAME TO A RESOLUTION QUITE HONESTLY,
SO, UM, WE COULD DECIDE WHATEVER MAKES SENSE IF THERE'S BRIEF, YOU JUST WANT TO PICK A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME FOR EACH COUNCIL MEMBER AND THEN THEY CAN CHOOSE SPECIFICALLY IF IT'S HOW THEY WANT TO USE IT.
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TO FIVE MINUTES.LISA, DON'T FORGET TO START THE CLOCK PLEASE.
IT COULD BE LIKE THE GONG SHOW AND THEY JUST RIGHT.
DID THEY TURN THE HEAT OFF? NO.
UM, SORRY, DO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE AGREEMENT? I HAD ASKED HOLLY, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, I DON'T KNOW IF SHE ACTUALLY GOT IT.
YES, WE DO HAVE THE AGREEMENT.
AND CO2 I HAD ASKED THAT WE NEED THE AGREEMENT AND THE FEE SCHEDULE THAT'S MENTIONED.
IT JUST SAYS, AND THERE SHOULD BE A DOLLAR, THERE SHOULD BE A CAP ON CO2 CAPITAL MARKETED, UH, ADVISORS, SINCE IT'S AN HOURLY ISSUE, THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF A CAP ON THERE.
UM, WHAT WOULD BE A REASONABLE CAP? I I JUST DON'T LIKE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE HOURLY.
WHERE DO YOU SEE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CL TWO? I DON'T SEE HOURLY.
WELL, AND DO WE HAVE THE DETAIL FOR C TWO IN TERMS OF THE PERCENTAGE AND THE L TWO? MM-HMM
UH, THE FI, THE FIREFIGHTERS AND AMBULANCE? NO, THAT IS NOT COMPLETE YET, BUT THAT'S NOT COMPLETE.
YOU'LL HAVE IT WELL BEFORE THE FEBRUARY 12TH MEETING.
THE HEARING DOESN'T START TOMORROW.
OH, THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT STARTS UNTIL FEBRUARY 12TH.
UM, I JUST, I GUESS I'M SORRY.
I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT ON CO2, UM, THAT THE LASER FISH, UM, ISSUE, UM, HAS BEEN RESOLVED.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, THE CO THREE, UM, I'M SORRY, CO COMPTROLLER TWO, UM, COMPTROLLER THREE, THE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE BUDGET AMENDMENT.
UM, AND JUST TO GO, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BACKGROUND, UM, IT WAS ORIGINALLY ADDED TO MY BUDGET FOR 2025, THE, UH, LASER FISH, UM, SERVICE AGREEMENT.
BUT AFTER RESEARCHING IT WAS FOUND TO HAVE COME OUT OF THE CAPITAL, CAPITAL, UM, FUND, NOT TOWN CLERK BUDGET LINE.
SO WE DID NOT PAY THIS BILL BECAUSE OF THE ISSUES THAT WE WERE HAVING WITH, UH, BILLING AND, UM, WE'VE, WE FINALLY RESOLVED THE LASER FISH.
SO THIS IS TO, UM, TAKE IT OUT OF MY BUDGET LINE AND PUT IT IN CAPITAL FUNDING TO PAY.
ANY OTHER, BUT AS I LOOK AT THAT, IF I LOOK AT THAT RESOLUTION, IT'S NOT ACTUALLY PAYING THEM, IT'S US MOVING MONEY SO THAT THERE'S THE POTENTIAL FOR PAYING THEM.
BE UH, BECAUSE THEY, THEY HAD MOVED THAT MONEY INTO MY, THEY MOVED, YEAH, THEY MOVED THE MONEY FOR THE BILL INTO MY BUDGET LINE FOR 2024 AND NOW WE NEED TO MOVE THAT FROM MY BUDGET LINE IN 2024 AND MOVE IT INTO CAPITAL FUND.
THAT'S WHY IT SAID, UM, ENTIRE TOWN AND THE CAPITAL FUND TO PAY THE OUTSTANDING BILL.
BUT I DON'T SEE THIS AS AN AMENDMENT TO GET THE MONEY INTO 2025.
THIS IS ALL MOVING AROUND MONEY IN 2024.
WE, UM, ONCE WE, I'M ASSUMING ONCE WE GET THE BILL, WHICH WILL BE IN OCTOBER FOR 2025, THEY WILL THEN, IF NOT BEFORE, TAKE THE MONEY OUT OF THE, MY BUDGET LINE, UM, OUT, OUT OF MY BUDGET LINE AND PUT IT INTO THE CAPITAL FUND, OR I BELIEVE THE COMP CONTROL EXPLAINED THIS TO US AND AT SOME POINT, OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? BECAUSE WE, I'VE
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GOTTA GET INTO SOME HEAT AND I'M GONNA DIENO, WE GOT PEOPLE WAITING FOR US.
OH, ASS ONE IS NOT WHAT I THOUGHT WE, AT LEAST NOT WHAT I DISCUSSED WITH, UM, ASST RHETORIC, THE, UM, THAT WITH A TOTAL AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED, UH, 6,500.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE'S A SET BUDGET AMOUNT FOR THE ASSESSOR FOR THE BOARD OF ASSESSMENT REVIEW.
SOME OF THAT GOES TO PAY THE STENOGRAPHER.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WHATEVER IS LEFT OVER WOULD THEN BE DISTRIBUTED AMONG THE MEMBERS.
YOU KNOW, SHOULD WE EV VOTE TO DO THAT? UH, THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S A FIXED PAYMENT THAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT IT WAS A FIXED PAYMENT.
BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I, WHEN I WAS DISCUSSING WITH EDIE ABOUT THIS, SOME LIAISON THROUGH THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, UH, SHE HAD MENTIONED THE MONEY'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET.
UM, THEY ACTUALLY HAD TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS, I THINK EVEN THREE.
UH, WHAT WOULD BE LEFT IS WHAT THEY WOULD PAY OUT, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, FIXED YEAR AFTER YEAR AFTER YEAR.
I, I THINK THIS REFLECTED THE AMOUNT THEY USED TO PAY BEFORE THEY STOPPED PAYING IT.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT SHE HAD EXPLAINED, THAT THEY USED TO PAY THIS AMOUNT A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND THEN YEAH, I'M JUST, I'VE GOTTA, I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S, I I GOTTA STATE TO HER BECAUSE IT'S NOT OKAY.
SHE TOLD ME THAT THERE'S A FIXED DOLLAR AMOUNT IF THEY DON'T USE IT FOR STENOGRAPHERS AND FOR THEIR PUBLIC HEARINGS, WHAT'S LEFT, THEY WOULD THEN DISTRIBUTE AMONG THEM FROM THAT BUDGET OR AMOUNT.
WHICH WOULD NOT BE A FIXED NUMBER BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PUBLIC HEARINGS OR HOW LONG PEOPLE ARE GONNA SPEAK OR HOW MANY FAST SO MANY TALKS.
SO DO YOU WANNA HOLD IT OVER AND, UH, WELL, IT MAY COME TO THAT WE GET MORE INFORMATION FROM TOMORROW.
I'LL HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE ABOUT IT.
SUPERVISOR, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, YOU A MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS TEND TO VIEW POTENTIAL APPOINTEES TO THE LIBRARY BOARD TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING PROPOSED PENDING AND CURRENT LITIGATION AND COLLECTIVE BARGAINING NEGOTIATIONS.