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TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION.TODAY IS FEBRUARY, UM, 11TH AFTER 5:30 PM COUNCILMAN, UH, SHEEN IS PRESENT BY ZOOM AND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE HERE.
AND FIRST ITEM IS, UM, UH, DAVID STEINS AND MATT BARONS WILL DISCUSS THEIR SITE PLAN, UH, PROPOSAL FOR ONE LAWRENCE STREET.
GOOD EVENING, MR. SUPERVISOR MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD.
DAVID STEINMETZ FROM THE LAW FIRM OF DOWN AND STEINMETZ.
I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE MATT BARONS.
WE ARE HERE, UH, THIS EVENING TO TALK ABOUT ONE LAWRENCE STREET.
I'M JOINED BY OUR CLIENTS, UH, GEORGE LERGIOS AND JOHN ELLI, AND BY MY FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE, DIEGO VI FROM JMC, UH, ENGINEERING AND PLANNING.
WE WERE HERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND WE TALKED TO YOU ABOUT A CONCEPT AT THAT TIME, WHICH, UM, YOU ALL WERE NOT PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT.
AND THAT'S BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF VEHICULAR MOVEMENT ASSOCIATED, UH, WITH A BUS STORAGE, UM, AND DISTRIBUTION, UH, DISPATCH FACILITY.
THE GOOD NEWS IS WE ARE HERE TONIGHT, UM, TO TALK ABOUT A VERY DIFFERENT, UM, FAR QUIETER AND WE THINK, UM, MORE APPROPRIATE, UM, USE OF THE PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY AT, AT ONE LAWRENCE'S, I THINK YOU ALL KNOW, IS LOCATED IN THE GI, THE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT.
IT'S APPROXIMATELY 11 ACRES IN SIZE.
UM, YOU WILL ALL RECALL IT WAS THE SUBJECT OF A BROWNFIELD CLEANUP PROGRAM.
UM, SO IT HAS BEEN CLEANED UP IN ACCORDANCE WITH EC REGULATIONS.
IT IS PERMITTED FOR, UM, REUSE IN A NON-RESIDENTIAL FASHION.
SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO KICK OFF ON A SIMPLE, WHAT WE THINK IS A SIMPLE OUTDOOR STORAGE, UM, ON THIS PROPERTY, OUTDOOR STORAGE IS A PERMITTED USE IN THIS ZONE.
UM, AND THE GOOD NEWS IS GEORGE AND JOHN, UM, HAVE A SCAFFOLDING COMPANY.
UM, AND THE CONCEPT REALLY IS TO USE THIS PROPERTY FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE OF SCAFFOLDING.
UM, SECONDARY USE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE WOULD BE LITERALLY THE, UH, THE STORAGE OR PARKING OF 48 TRUCKS.
UH, THAT WOULD NOT BE USED IN TERMS OF ACTIVE TRUCKING COMING AND GOING.
UM, IF YOU GO AND RENT SOMETHING LIKE A RIDER BOX TRUCK, UM, THEY DON'T JUST SIT AT THE RETAIL CUSTOMER FACING LOCATIONS.
THEY ARE TYPICALLY STORED SOMEWHERE AND THEY GET MOVED TO LOCATIONS AS NECESSARY.
SO WE'RE, UM, THE CONCEPT WOULD BE TO HAVE AN ABILITY TO STORE A NUMBER OF TRUCKS, AND DIEGO'S GONNA WALK US THROUGH, UM, A SITE PLAN TO, TO SHOW HOW THIS LAYS OUT.
THE, WHAT WE ARE THINKING OF IS 110,000 SQUARE FEET OF STORAGE.
UH, YOU'LL SEE THAT ON THE SITE PLAN IN A MOMENT.
AND BEFORE WE RETURN TO YOUR BOARD TONIGHT, WE CONDUCTED SOME PRELIMINARY TRAFFIC ANALYSIS.
YOU ALL, EVERY ONE OF YOU RAISED SOME SIGNIFICANT CONCERNS ABOUT VEHICULAR MOVEMENT ONTO AND OFF OF LAWRENCE STREET.
UM, WE BELIEVE BASED UPON THIS TYPE OF USE, THIS TYPE OF STORAGE AND WHEN THESE TRUCKS COMING IN, COMING AND TAKING SCAFFOLDING WOULD BE, UM, ACTUALLY USING LAWRENCE AND THE NEIGHBORING INTERSECTIONS.
UM, IT, IT'S ESSENTIALLY THE SAME LEVEL OF SERVICE THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AT THE INTERSECTIONS.
THIS WOULD NOT BE CREATING, UM, A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT.
THERE'S A LESS THAN A SECOND, UM, UH, CHANGE IN LEVEL OF SERVICE AT SAWMILL AND LAWRENCE STREET, AND ABOUT A ONE SECOND DELAY AT THE SAWMILL RIVER PARKWAY INTERSECTION.
AND ULTIMATELY HIS TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, WHEN WE GO FORWARD WITH THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION, WILL WALK YOU THROUGH THAT IN GREATER DETAIL.
BUT TONIGHT, WE WANT TO JUST DO THIS ON A HIGH LEVEL AND ASSESS YOUR INITIAL REACTION.
I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO LOOK THERE.
I ALSO BROUGHT A BOARD WITH ME.
HAPPY TO PUT THAT ON THE TABLE IF WE WANTED TO DO IT BOTH WAYS.
SO I WILL, I DIDN'T BRING THAT COMPUTER.
EVERYBODY SEES THIS AND I CAN ZOOM IN.
THIS IS, AS DAVID HAD INDICATED, THE AREA HIGHLIGHTED IN RED IS THE PROPERTY LINE OF THE PLUS MINUS JUST UNDER 11 ACRE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THE NEW YORK STATE THREW WHAT YOU SEE OFF TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
THEN YOU SEE THE SAW SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
THIS IS ITS INTERSECTION WITH LAWRENCE STREET.
AND THEN YOU SEE THE SAWMILL PARKWAY AT THE TOP PORTION OF THE PAGE THERE.
I'M GONNA ZOOM IN EVEN A BIT MORE BECAUSE IT'S VERY CLEAR FROM THIS AERIAL, YOU CAN SEE THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S BEEN REMEDIATED, UM, UNDER THE DEC STANDARDS.
AND THIS IS REALLY THE AREA OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S THE FOCAL POINT OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENT.
IT'S LIMITED TO THIS PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS ABOUT FIVE OR SIX ACRES OF THE PROPERTY.
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OF IT, AS YOU KNOW, HAS THE WATER, UH, SAWMILL RIVER THAT GOES THROUGH IT.UH, IT'S REALLY INUNDATED WITH PORTIONS OF IT AS A FLOOD FLOODPLAIN.
ALL THAT'S REMAINING AS IT IS.
WE'LL STAY AWAY FROM THAT PORTION OF IT, AND WE'RE GONNA FOCUS IT REALLY ON THE PORTION THAT'S BEEN REMEDIATED AND THAT'S ALREADY DISTURBED.
AND THAT'S SOUTHERN PAD DIEGO'S APPROXIMATELY HOW LARGE? IT'S, IT'S ABOUT SIX ACRES PLUS MINUS OF THE 11 ACRES.
THAT'S REALLY WHEN YOU TAKE THE AREA THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, IT'S ABOUT SIX ACRES THAT WE'RE UTILIZING.
THIS IS THE LIST OF THE, A RENDERING OF THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS AND WHAT'S SHOWN ON THE SITE PLAN.
UH, STARTING WITH THE DRIVEWAY ACCESS.
AND THIS IS SIMILAR WITH THE PLAN THAT WE PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY, EXCEPT NOW, LIKE DAVID HAD INDICATED, YOU DON'T SEE THE BUSES.
THERE'S NO BUS COMPONENT OR STORAGE, UH, COMPONENT FOR BUSES ON THE PROPERTY.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE THAT ASPECT OF THE TRAFFIC COMING TO AND FROM THE SITE, UH, ON A REGULAR BASIS HERE.
SO THE LAWRENCE STREET DRIVEWAY WOULD INTERSECT IT WITH THE FIRST DRIVEWAY HERE AND A SECOND DRIVEWAY A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE SAWMILL PARKWAY ITSELF.
THIS IS ESSENTIALLY WHERE THE TWO GATES ARE TODAY.
YOU'LL SEE THE GATES THAT ARE OUT THERE AND WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE LOCATED WHEN YOU COME INTO THE PROPERTY.
WE HAVE A FULL TWO-WAY DRIVEWAY WITH PARKING ALONG THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND THEN THE STORAGE AREA THAT DAVID HAD INDICATED ABOUT 110,000 SQUARE FEET IS SHOWN IN THIS LIGHT GRAY COLOR.
ANY VEHICLES COMING IN, WHETHER IT'S AN EMPLOYEE OR SOMEBODY ELSE COULD COME IN AND THERE'S AT MORE THAN ADEQUATE PARKING TO HAVE ANY VEHICLE PARK ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
AND THEN YOU CIRCLE AROUND THE BACKSIDE.
AND THIS STRIPED AREA HERE IS THE LOADING AREA FOR THE SCAFFOLDING EQUIPMENT.
AS DAVID HAD INDICATED, OUR CLIENT HAS A SCAFFOLDING COMPANY THAT THEY WOULD BRING TO THIS LOCATION.
AND THE STORAGE AREA WOULD BE USED FOR, AGAIN, SCAFFOLDING EQUIPMENT.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S CODE PROVISIONS.
NO EQUIPMENT CAN BE STORED MORE THAN SIX FEET IN HEIGHT.
AND THEN WE HAVE BUFFERING AND LANDSCAPING PROVISIONS AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL, ALL OF WHICH WOULD BE COMPLIED WITH.
WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT A VARIANCE IS REQUIRED.
OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO REVIEW BY YOUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
BUT THE APPLICATION THAT WE PUT FORWARD, UM, INCLUDING THE, THE FULL SITE PLAN APPLICATION AND OUR ZONING COMPLIANCE CHART, WE DON'T SHOW THAT ANY VARIANCES ARE REQUIRED.
WE MEET ALL OF THE CRITERIA OF THE GI DISTRICT.
SO AGAIN, AS YOU GO IN, YOU COME AROUND THE BACKSIDE, THIS IS THAT LOADING AREA, AND THE SCAFFOLDING EQUIPMENT COULD BE LOADED ONTO THE TRUCKS, AND THEN THEY GO RIGHT BACK OUT, MAKE THE LEFT HAND TURN, GO ONTO LAWRENCE STREET, AND THEN THEY WOULD USE THE SIGNALED INTERSECTION AT SAWMILL RIVER ROAD AND LAWRENCE STREET BECAUSE OF THE TYPES OF VEHICLES YOU'RE DEALING WITH.
TRUCKS, YOU, YOU WOULD NOT GO ONTO THE SAWMILL PARKWAY ITSELF.
YOU WOULD UTILIZE SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE VARIOUS HIGHWAYS THAT SURROUND THE PROPERTY.
UM, WHEN DAVID HAD INDICATED THE RIDER TRUCKS OR THE U-HAUL TRUCK, WHATEVER TRUCKS WOULD BE STORED, THE CARGO TRUCKS.
THAT'S ALONG THE TOP SIDE OF THE PAGE HERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THOSE 48 SPACES ARE LOCATED.
AND EVERYTHING'S RIGHT ALONG THE TOP SIDE OF THE PAGE.
AS I HAD INDICATED, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A SIGNIFICANT LANDSCAPE BUFFER.
THE CODE REQUIRES THAT 25 FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFER ALONG THE STREET, FRONTAGE TO THE EQUIPMENT AND STORAGE AREA.
AND THEN ANYWHERE WHERE THERE'S VEHICLE STORAGE IN THIS AREA, THERE'S THAT FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPED BUFFER ALONG THAT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THERE.
THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY, AS WE SHOW IN THE EXISTING AERIAL WHERE THE SAWMILL RIVER IS, ALL OF THAT WOULD REMAIN, UM, WOULD BE PRESERVED AND WOULD REMAIN IN A NATURAL STATE.
THE 30,000 SQUARE FOOT, LIKE WE HAD INDICATED BEFORE, IT'S REALLY A FUTURE BUILDING.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PLANNED DURING THE INITIAL STAGES.
THEY WANT TO BEGIN TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
HENCE ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE BACK BEFORE YOU TRYING TO MOVE THIS APPLICATION FORWARD.
BUT AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE, WE WANTED TO JUST INDICATE, UM, THAT THERE MIGHT BE A BUILDING CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY, AND IF IT WAS, IT WOULD BE A 30,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING AND IT WOULD BE LOCATED THERE.
AGAIN, PLANNED OUTSIDE OF THE SETBACKS WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY VARIANCES FULLY COMPLIANT WITH ALL OF YOUR ZONING PROVISIONS.
BUT AGAIN, WE WANTED TO ALLOCATE THE SPACE ON WHAT IT MIGHT BE AND WHERE IT WOULD BE LOCATED ON THE PROPERTY.
JUST PAUSING ON THAT FOR ONE SECOND.
WE WANTED TO IDENTIFY THIS FOR YOU BECAUSE IF THIS PROJECT PROCEEDS AND IF IT GETS APPROVED, AND IF WE DON'T BUILD, IF OUR CLIENTS DON'T BUILD THAT BUILDING, BUT COME BACK A YEAR OR 18 MONTHS LATER TO BUILD IT, WE DON'T WANT ANYONE SAYING, WE NEVER TOLD US ABOUT THAT.
IN FACT, WE ACTUALLY THINK IT'S A GOOD THING.
IT'S PROBABLY A MITIGATION BECAUSE IT'S ONLY FURTHER VISUAL, UM, BUFFERING OF ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE ON SITE.
BUT AT THE MOMENT, IT IS NOT SLATED TO BE PART OF A PHASE ONE CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE ARE TELLING YOU ABOUT IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO BE CANDID FROM THE OUTSET.
UM, AND WE WOULD, WE WOULD WANT THE ABILITY TO ULTIMATELY BUILD THAT STRUCTURE SHOULD, UM, SHOULD THE CLIENTS DECIDE THEY WANTED TO DO THAT HOURS OF OPERATION.
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GREAT QUESTION.I WOULD TURN TO GEORGE ON THAT.
UM, USUALLY, UH, 7, 6, 7 O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, AND, UH, THEY END THEIR DAY AROUND THREE, FOUR O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.
HOW MANY, UH, TRUCKS WOULD BE GOING BACK AND FORTH THE DAY.
THAT'S WHAT, AND THAT WAS GONNA SEGUE, GREAT SEGUE INTO THE LAST PIECE THAT I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ABOUT WAS, AGAIN, WAS THE TRAFFIC STUDY PIECE OF IT.
UM, AS DAVID HAD INDICATED, YOU KNOW, WE DID PREPARE A TRAFFIC ANALYSIS THAT LOOKED AT THE SURROUNDING INTERSECTIONS AND OUR DRIVEWAYS INTERSECTIONS WITH, UH, LAWRENCE STREET.
AND AGAIN, WE LOOKED AT TWO THINGS.
ONE WAS THE SPECIFIC OPERATIONS OF SPRING SCAFFOLDING, AND WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD EXPECT.
AND AGAIN, IT'S 14 TO 18 VANS AND THAT'S WHAT'S INCLUDED IN THE LETTER VANS AND TRUCKS THAT WOULD COME TO AND FROM THE SITE THAT WOULD COME PICK UP EQUIPMENT AND THEN HEAD TO THE LOCATION AND THE RETURN LATER THAT DAY.
THAT'S ON A DAILY DAY 14, THAT'S ON A DAILY BASIS.
SO YOU HAVE BETWEEN 14 AND 18.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE LOOKED AT ITE UNDERSTANDING AND, UM, YOU WANNA EXPLAIN WHAT IT IS.
OF COURSE, I'M GONNA GET ALMOST CERTAIN, UH, AS PART OF THIS PROCESS, YOU'LL BRING IN YOUR TRAFFIC ENGINEER WHO WE WORKED WITH BEFORE THEY REVIEW A NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT OTHER INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE STATEMENT THAT OUR APPLICANT WAS MAKING.
SO ITE, THE INSTITUTE OF TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS PUBLISHES A MANUAL THAT SAYS, FOR THESE SPECIFIC TYPES OF USES, WE STUDY A BUNCH OF LOCATIONS, AND THIS IS THE TYPE OF TRAFFIC VOLUMES THAT WE SEE.
AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT ITE, IT LOOKS AT 37 TO 40 VEHICLE TRIPS, WHICH IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT.
A VEHICLE TRIP IS A CAR COMING TO THE PROPERTY, AND ANOTHER ONE IS LEAVING.
SO IF YOU HAVE 18 VEHICLES COMING TO PICKING UP, THAT'S 36 TRIPS DURING A SPECIFIC HOUR OR DIFF DURING A SPECIFIC PERIOD OF TIME.
SO AGAIN, OUR ANALYSIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE CONSERVATIVE BECAUSE WE LOOKED AT A SLIGHTLY HIGHER VOLUME AT 37 VEHICLE TRIPS AND 40 VEHICLE TRIPS.
BUT AGAIN, WE EXPECT BETWEEN 14 AND 18 BASED ON THE SPECIFIC USER OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
IF I MAY, OF COURSE, I DON'T THINK, DID IT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH WHAT, WERE THERE FACTORS SUCH AS TIME OF DAY DURING RUSH HOUR, AND B THE LENGTH OF LAWRENCE STREET AND, AND HOW TRAFFIC REALLY BACKS UP THERE? YEAH, SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF THINGS.
WE GOTTA PEEL THAT APART BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S REALLY A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT ISSUES.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY, THE ONE THING WE DO IS WE LOOK AT PEAK HOURS.
SO WE DO TRAFFIC COUNTS AT THE ROADWAYS, AND WE FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PEAK HOUR IS GOING TO BE DURING THESE SPECIFIC TIMES.
AND THE PEAK HOURS OCCURRED AT 7 45 TO 8 45 IN THE MORNING.
AND THEN DURING THE PM HOUR HAPPENED AT 3 45 TO 4 45 IN THE AFTERNOON.
THAT'S WHEN, AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THERE'S NO TRAFFIC AFTER THAT, THERE'S STILL TRAFFIC, BUT WE SAW THE MOST AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC DURING THOSE HOURS, AND THAT'S WHAT WE, THAT WAS DURING THAT WAS BASED ON COUNTS THAT WERE TAKEN.
WERE ACTUALLY TAKING, NOW WE TAKE OUR TRAFFIC AND REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE THINK IT HAPPENS BEFORE THAT OR AFTER THAT, WE LAYER IT ONTO THE WORST HOUR.
SO WE TRY TO LOOK AT IT FROM A CONSERVATIVE STANDPOINT.
SO WE TAKE THAT EQUATION OUT OF THE, OR WE TAKE THAT ASPECT OUT OF THE EQUATION AND WE LOOK AT WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
EVEN IF GEORGE WILL TELL US THAT HIS VEHICLES ARE GONE, AS HE INDICATED BY 7:00 AM THEY'RE GONE.
AND THE PEAK HOUR HAPPENS AT 7 45, WE'RE STILL LOOKING AT IT ON TOP OF IT TO PROVIDE A SOMEWHAT CONSERVATIVE ANALYSIS BECAUSE THERE'S STILL VEHICLE TRAFFIC OUT THERE.
SO INCLUDING EMPLOYEES, WHAT WOULD BE THE VE AGAIN, THE TRUCKS ARE COMING FROM A DIFFERENT LOCATION, AND THEN THEY GET DRIVEN HERE, THEY PICK IT UP.
SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME EMPLOYEES THAT COME HERE.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY WOULD BE HOUSED AT THIS LOCATION, BUT A MAJORITY OF THEM COME ON THE TRUCKS THAT THEY'RE DRIVING AND THEY LEAVE.
SO YOU'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT, I'M JUST, I I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, UNDERSTAND.
SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE UNDER LIKE SAY 50 CARS A WHOLE DAY? I WOULD SAY SO, YEAH.
I THINK WE'RE, I THINK WE'RE SIGNIFICANT.
SO IF WE HAD, UM, HOUSING THERE OR COMMERCIAL, ANOTHER COMMERCIAL SIGNIFICANT BUS COULD BE SIGNIFI SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.
THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, UM, UH, THERE'S NO BUS STOP AT RIVERTOWN, YOU KNOW, SQUARE.
UM, SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE ON SAW MALL RIVER ROAD, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE THE BUS, MOST OF THE EMPLOYEES AND THEY WALK ON THE SIDEWALK, UH, YOU KNOW, PAST MM-HMM
AND, UH, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE, THERE COULD BE SAFETY ISSUES IF THERE'S LIKE A TRUCK OR SOMETHING, UM, YOU KNOW, BACKING UP AND SOMEBODY'S WALKING AND THEY'RE NOT REALLY PAYING.
I THINK THE PEAK TIME FOR THE, FOR THE WORKERS
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WHO WORK AT RIVERTOWN SQUARE IS NOT THE PEAK TIME FOR, BUT I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING AS PART OF THIS SAY, PROPOSAL THAT COULD MAKE, MAKE IT SAFER FOR SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES AT RIVERTOWN.YOU KNOW, SQUARE, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THROWING OUT SOMETHING.
SO THAT WAS IDENTIFIED WHEN WE MET WITH YOU A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
WE, WE ARE HAPPY TO STUDY THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE VEGETATION WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
WHAT WE COULD ACTUALLY PRUNE BACK, I THINK WHAT DIEGO WILL BE ABLE TO TELL YOU IS THAT WE HAVE FAIRLY AMPLE DRIVEWAY APRONS.
IT'S NOT LIKE TRUCKS ARE GONNA COME OUTTA NOWHERE.
UM, WE, WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT RATHER VISIBLE TO ANY PEDESTRIAN THAT'S CURRENTLY WALKING ON LAWRENCE.
BUT THE, THE, THE NOTION OF ENSURING PEDESTRIAN SAFETY ON LAWRENCE STREET IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT OUR CLIENTS WOULD SHARE.
DID YOU WANNA RESPOND FIRST BEFORE I, YOU KNOW, WE ARE OF COURSE GOING TO HAVE THE, UH, CURBS, UH, FIXED UP AND PAINTED AND VERY VISIBLE.
AND WE'RE ALSO GOING TO HAVE THE LASER MONITORS WHERE WHEN A TRUCK GOES TO COME OUT OR IT GOES TO COME IN, UH, IT STARTS TO BEEP AND THERE'S A LIGHT, IT'S AUTOMATIC.
ONE ABOUT THE SIZE OF THE VEHICLES.
SO BEING THAT IT IS VERY NARROW STREET, THE TURNING RADIUS IS NOT GREAT.
SO HOW, HOW, WHAT'S THE LARGEST VEHICLE THAT YOU ANTICIPATE HAVING? SO ONE THING IS, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR SITE PLAN, YOU COULD SEE VERY QUICKLY, WE DESIGNED IT WITH THESE VERY LARGE RADI, IS TO ALLOW ANY TRUCKS COMING IN AND OUT TO BE ABLE TO TURN WITHOUT HAVING TO GO INTO ONCOMING TRAFFIC.
THAT'S ONE OF THE BIG THINGS THAT HAPPENS.
A RADIUS MIGHT BE TOO SMALL, IT SWINGS INTO THE OPPOSITE LANE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THAT TURN.
THAT'S WHY THE TRUCKS TURNING ONTO SELMA RIVER ROAD.
SO THAT'S WHY WE LOOK AT ONTO AND IN FROM, IN, FROM.
SO, AND IN FROM, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE TURNING RADIS ON LAUREN STREET, AND WE DESIGNED THEM BASICALLY FOR FULL SIZE TRACTOR TRAILERS.
IN THE EVENT THAT YOU DO HAVE TRACTOR TRAILERS COMING TO THIS LOCATION, THE DELIVERY VEHICLES AND WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, IT'S MOSTLY FLATBEDS AND BOX TRUCKS THAT WOULD COME AND GET LOADED WITH THIS EQUIPMENT.
BUT AGAIN, WE'RE STILL HERE AND WE'RE STILL ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE A TRACTOR TRAILER IF NEEDED.
I, I THINK THAT'S GONNA BE PROBLEMATIC.
THAT'S HAVING BEEN ON THAT STREET A LOT.
I THINK, ELLEN, WE WERE TOGETHER WHEN WE DID A WALKTHROUGH YEARS AGO.
IT'S ALSO VERY OVER IN TERMS OF THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY.
AND IF YOU'D BE WILLING TO TAKE ON THE MAINTENANCE OF THE, 'CAUSE THERE WAS NO ONE, NO MUNICIPALITY WAS ABLE TO LIKE, TAKE ON WHO WAS GONNA TRIM THE HEDGES THAT WERE GROWING OVER THE SIDE OF THE SIDEWALKS.
AND PEOPLE WHO WERE ACTUALLY WALKING FROM THE BUS STOP ON SAW MILL RIVER ROAD COULD EVEN YEAH.
AND WHEN THERE'S SNOW, IT'S EVEN WORSE.
SO I'M MIXING UP A COUPLE THINGS, BUT THAT DOES CONCERN ME, THE SIDE TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT I FIND THAT VERY CONCERNING.
SO THAT WOULD ALL BE MAINTAINED AGAIN, WE'RE REVEGETATING AND RELANDSCAPING THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY ON LAUREN STREET.
AND THEN GEORGE WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE OBLIGATED TO MAINTAIN THAT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENTS.
AND THAT INCLUDES SHOVELING SIDEWALKS AFTER SNOW STORMS AND OTHER THINGS LIKE, I MEAN, HE'S OBLIGATED TO DO THAT NOW.
SO AS THE PROPERTY OWNER, BUT WITH THAT BEING SAID, AGAIN, WE DON'T EXPECT TRACTOR TRAILERS BASED ON THE USAGE OF THE PROPERTY.
SO I DON'T WANT TO IMPLY THAT IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE EVERYDAY OPERATIONS MM-HMM
BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE COULD ACCOMMODATE IT IN THE EVENT THAT A ONE DID COME THERE.
BUT THEY'RE NOT FULL SIZE TRACTOR TRAILERS.
THEY ARE NO MORE BOX TRUCKS, 40 FOOT LENGTHS, SINGLE BODY AXLES, STUFF LIKE THAT THAT YOU WOULD SEE THAT GET LOADED WITH THE SKY.
AND, AND BEFORE YOU FULLY PRE-JUDGE THE TRACTOR TRAILER ISSUE, ALLOW YOUR TRAFFIC, UH, ENGINEER TO COMMENT BECAUSE MM-HMM
WE, WE COULD PROBABLY NOT JUST MODEL IT, PROBABLY ACTUALLY GO OUT IN THE FIELD AND DO IT AND VIDEO AND DEMONSTRATE, BUT ALLOW, ALLOW US TO ESTABLISH THAT BEFORE WE WOULD INCUR A RESTRICTION THAT WOULD PROHIBIT.
AND GARRETT, WHAT TYPE OF ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW WOULD BE REQUIRED FOR THIS TYPE OF PROJECT? IT WOULD BE THE STANDARD REVIEW UNDER NEW YORK STATE.
SO THAT WOULD ENCOMPASS STORM WATER REVIEW, UM, TRAFFIC, AESTHETICS, WHOLE VARIETY OF, OF ENVIRONMENTAL.
I KNOW WE HAVE REPRESENTATIVE, THE MAYOR IS HERE ON SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M WONDERING IF YOU HAD ANY, YOU KNOW, QUESTIONS OR, OR CONCERNS SINCE THIS COULD IMPACT.
I APPRECIATE, I APPRECIATE YOU SENDING ME THESE PLANS AND WITH ME TODAY IS DEPUTY MAYOR STEVE STEIN AND TRUSTEE BARRY MAGOI.
UM, I HAVE, UH, I HAVE, I MEAN, ONE OF MY BIGGEST CONCERNS OF THIS, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
LET ME START OFF WITH MY QUESTION.
THE CARGO TRUCKS, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU KEEP TALKING ABOUT IS YOUR
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BUSINESS, BUT THE CARGO TRUCKS IS 48 SPOTS, SO THAT'S 48 TRUCKS YOU ASSUME ARE GONNA BE THERE.HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE TRUCKS GONNA COME AND GO DURING THE COST OF THE DAY? WHO'S GONNA BE THERE? WHAT'S THE HOURS OF OPERATION FOR THAT? UM, SURE.
YOU WANT TO, THOSE ARE JUST STANDBY VEHICLES OR THOSE SPACES ARE JUST GONNA BE USED, UH, TO PARK, UH, LIKE EQUIPMENT THAT'S LIKE ON A HITCH THAT JUST TAKES, UH, SPACE IN THE SPOT FOR WHO? SO NOT YOUR BUSINESS, BUT FOR SOME OTHER BUSINESS.
NO, LET'S GO BACK AND ADDRESS THE FIRST THING.
THE CARGO TRUCKS THAT ARE FOR OBVIOUSLY THE U-HAUL AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THIS IS A STAGING AREA, SO THEY'RE NOT FLOWING AND COMING TO AND FROM THE SITE EVERY DAY.
A LOCATION MAY NEED A U-HAUL TRUCK, SO THEY'LL SEND A PORTER THERE TO PICK IT UP.
IT GETS DRIVEN TO THE LOCATION THAT IT GETS RENTED OUT FROM.
WHEN IT GETS DRIVEN BACK, IT GETS DROPPED OFF AGAIN.
BUT WHAT IS THE FREQUENCY OF THAT HAPPENING? UH, THAT'S, IT'S AND HOW DOES THAT ADD INTO THE TRAFFIC? IT'S INTERMITTENT.
IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE TURNING OVER 48 OF THOSE ON A DAILY BASIS.
I HAVE A TRAILER RIGHT NOW SITTING IN A PARKING LOT IN, IN QUEENS THAT HASN'T MOVED IN EIGHT MONTHS.
WELL, I THINK THAT HAS TO BE FACTORED INTO THIS AND FACTORED INTO THE TRAFFIC STUDY.
UM, ONE OF MY OTHER VERY BIG CONCERNS, AND AND YOU ACTUALLY BROUGHT IT UP YOURSELF, IS THAT THESE TRUCKS CAN'T MAKE A RIGHT HAND TURN OUT OF THIS.
THEY CAN ONLY MAKE A LEFT HAND TURN 'CAUSE THEY CAN'T GO TO THE SAWMILL RIVER PARKWAY.
SO THEY HAVE TO GO TO SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, WHICH MEANS THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO EITHER THROUGH HARDLEY OR IN THE OTHER DIRECTION.
AND THE CHANCES ARE THEY'RE GONNA PROBABLY GO THROUGH LEY TO BEGIN WITH BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA PROBABLY GO TO THE THROUGHWAY OR FURTHER.
UM, THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA GO TO THE THROUGHWAY.
THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA GO TO THE THROUGHWAY OR FURTHER NORTH UP THERE.
HAS THAT BEEN CONSIDERED IN PART OF YOUR, YOUR TRAFFIC PLAN AND WHAT THAT WILL DO TO THE INTERSECTIONS IN ARDSLEY WHEN YOU ADD THESE, YOU KNOW, 30 ROUND TRIPS A DAY, UM, THROUGH THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY? SO I WOULD LOOK AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
UM, FIRST THING, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT 30 VEHICLE TRIPS AND YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL VOLUME, IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT PORTION.
IT'S, IT'S, I HATE TO SAY NEGLIGIBLE, BECAUSE NOTHING'S EVER NEGLIGIBLE.
AND WE CAN'T SIT HERE AND SAY IT'S NOT GONNA GENERATE ANY ADDITIONAL TRAFFIC.
THERE WILL BE A FEW ADDITIONAL VEHICLE TRIPS, BUT IT IS VERY MINIMAL.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERALL USAGE OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SECOND TRIPS TRUCK? NO, OVERALL TRIPS.
THE USE OF THE PROPERTY AS, AS SUPERVISOR FINDER INDICATED BEFORE, IT'S NOT A COMMERCIAL USE, IT'S NOT A RESIDENTIAL USE, IT DOESN'T HAVE HIGH TURNOVER ON A DAILY BASIS.
YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE COMING TO AND FROM LIKE YOU DO FOR SQUARE, BUT YOU'RE TURNING THAT ALL INTO THE VILLAGE OF ARTS, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU SAY.
THAT TRAFFIC IS ALL NEGOTIATED.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A FACTUAL STATEMENT.
THAT'S, I THINK JUST GET IT JUST REAL QUICK.
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR AN EXPLANATION ON WHY THAT'S NOT A FACTUAL STATEMENT.
THE TRUCKS WOULD NEVER CORRECT HERE COUNTER HOW DID THEY NOT, HOW THEY NOT, THEY'RE GONNA GO TURN OFF THE, WELL, NOT, THEY'RE BASICALLY COME OUT, THEY'RE GONNA ENTER THE TWO-WAY GOING SOUTH AND THEY'RE GONNA GO AND THEY'RE GONNA COME OFF TWO-WAY GOING NORTH AND THEY'RE GONNA GO RIGHT TO THE PROPERTY.
I DON'T THINK YOU CAN SAY NEVER, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN, THESE ARE GOING TO JOBS ALL OVER, RIGHT? NEVER.
THE JOBS ARE IN THE CITY, CITY.
OH, THAT'S ALL THE JOBS ARE IN THE CITY.
THE JOBS ARE ON ONLY CUSTOMER.
WHEN YOU THINK OF SCAFFOLDING EQUIPMENT AND THE SCAFFOLDING COMPANIES, THE SPRING SCAFFOLDING, A MAJORITY OF YOU CANNOT SAY NEVER.
YOU'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT RIGHT, BUT I DON'T THINK YOU COULD SAY ALL EITHER.
AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK IT'S, IT'S A BALANCE.
I THINK THEY ALMOST NEVER, THEY WILL NEVER GO THROUGH THE TUNNEL.
SO I THINK IT'S, IT'S A FACTOR, A FACTOR OF THERE ARE ROUTES FOR THEM TO GET ONTO THE THROUGHWAY.
UM, GOING SOUTHBOUND IS A ROUTE TO GET TO THE THROUGHWAY, AND THEN OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE THE ACCESS ONE MILE NORTH OF THIS SITE, UM, THAT PROVIDES YOU, AGAIN, JUST WITH THE ONE DIRECTION.
UNFORTUNATELY, IT DOESN'T HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANY INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE YOU HAVE PROVIDED SCAFFOLDING IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY OR GREENBURG OUTSIDE OF NEW YORK CITY? I DON'T THINK, I MEAN, YOU'RE SAYING ALL OF THIS IS GOING INTO NEW YORK CITY, SO ALL OF IT'S GONNA GO ONTO THE FREEWAY.
I AM CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR VILLAGE.
SO THE EQUIPMENT THAT, UH, WE'RE USING IS FOR VERY TALL BUILDINGS.
WELL, TALL BUILDINGS GET BUILT IN WESTCHESTER.
BUT WE, WE COULD CHECK AND SEE HOW SPRING COUNTY HAVE ANY JOBS IN WESTCHESTER.
BUT I, I WOULD, I BELIEVE THAT, I BELIEVE THERE AREN'T ANY, WELL, ALSO A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORICAL VIEW OF THAT TOO.
NOT JUST WHAT'S GOING ON CURRENTLY.
WE, WE WILL, IT'S AN, IT'S AN IMPORTANT QUESTION.
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YOUR QUESTIONS.I WANNA REMIND YOU, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I WANNA REMIND THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
THIS PROPERTY IS SEW FOR THIS USE.
SO WE'RE NOT ASKING TO DO AN UNLAWFUL USE.
AS YOU ALL REMINDED ME, WHEN I WAS HERE TWO AND A HALF MONTHS AGO, THERE WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT MAKING THIS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY AND THE TOWN OPPOSED THAT.
AND THE TOWN DID NOT WANNA ENGAGE IN THAT.
AND IT WOULD'VE BEEN SIGNIFICANTLY MORE VEHICULAR MOVEMENT.
AND WE CAN, WE CAN SIT HERE AND DEBATE WHETHER VEHICLES WOULD GO INTO HARDLEY IN TERMS OF TRUCKS.
CERTAINLY IF THEY WERE CARS AND RESIDENTS, THEY WOULD BE GOING INTO HARDLEY AND THEY WOULD BE SHOPPING AND GOING TO SCHOOLS, ET CETERA.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS I, I APPRECIATE, YOUR HONOR, IF I CAN JUST FINISH MY COMMENT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU ALL DECIDED LEGISLATIVELY WAS NOT TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE AND TO PROTECT LEY IN THAT FASHION.
SO THE GOOD NEWS IS, WE ARE COMPLYING WITH YOUR WISHES.
WE ARE MAKING AN APPLICATION THAT IS AN AS OF RIGHT USE AND TOTALLY APPRECIATE THE EMPIRICAL QUESTIONS ABOUT IMPACT.
ALLOW US TO ANSWER THAT AND ALLOW THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS TO RESPOND TO LOS LEVEL OF SERVICE, TIMING AND THE INTERSECTIONS THAT ARE, THAT OCCUR IN YOUR BUILDING.
I ACT I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAY, AND I WAS ACTUALLY ON THE BOARD WHEN WE FOUGHT THE JEFFERSON MANY YEARS.
SO I'M QUITE KNOWLEDGEABLE, UM, OF THAT SITUATION, BUT THE TRAFFIC SINCE THEN THROUGH THE VILLAGE OF ORLEY, HAS GOTTEN EXPONENTIALLY WORSE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE, THIS IS A CONSTANT COMPLAINT FOR OUR RESIDENTS AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ADDING A FEW MORE CARS AND WE'RE POTENTIALLY ADDING TRUCKS, WHICH FOR ME ALSO CREATES A QUESTION OF AIR QUALITY.
I WAS JUST AT THE FEDERATOR CONSERVATIONIST OF WESTCHESTER COUNTY, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS AIR QUALITY.
SO I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THESE TRUCKS ARE ON THE PROPERTY ARE GONNA BE IDLING OR NOT IDLING WHILE THEY'RE BEING LOADED.
YOU KNOW, I HAVE THOSE KINDS OF CONCERNS, BUT MY RESPONSIBILITY AND, AND THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY IS TO PROTECT THE VILLAGE OF ARTS.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US.
I UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING THIS HERE IS BETTER THAN HAVING A RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT HERE.
I ALSO FULLY UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, THE PROPERTY IS ZONED TO ALLOW FOR SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
APPRECIATE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PUTTING ALL THE THINGS IN PLACE THAT WE CAN AND HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED, THAT I'M NOT SHOOTING TRUCKS DOWN THE SAW MILL RIVER ROAD INTO THE VILLAGE OF ALEY WITHOUT AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THESE TRUCKS ARE.
TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND MATTER.
MAYOR, ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU, BECAUSE I, I'M, I'M IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IN FRONT OF THESE BOARDS FREQUENTLY, THEY WILL MAKE SURE OF THAT.
WELL, I'LL MAKE SURE THE QUESTION IS IF WE MAKE SURE, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU'RE THERE, UH, ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU CHANGE YOUR MIND.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO, WE DON'T HAVE, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ONCE YOU'RE, I MEAN, THERE'S NO CONGESTION PRICING, YOU KNOW, UM, STICKERS ON THE, ON THE TRUCK.
SO IF THEY, I MEAN, THERE'S NOTHING THAT WE CAN'T TAKE ANY ACTION TO, SHOULD YOUR BUSINESS MODEL CHANGE AND YOU DECIDE TO GO MORE INTO YEAH, THAT'S MY TRANSLATOR.
LEMME JUST, ALTHOUGH I MEAN, THE ROUTE PRESUMABLY WOULD STAY ON THROUGHWAY, RIGHT? IT'S NOT GOING.
THEY CAN'T, BUT THERE'S NO, I TOLD YOU NOT GOING ON THE PARKWAY, BUT NO, NO WAY.
THERE'S NO WAY TO ENFORCE THAT.
WHAT WHAT THE TRUCKS, THE TRUCKS THE NOT ALLOWED PARKWAY.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU MAY ON THOSE, WHAT WOULD THEY GO TO THE VILLAGE? WELL, IF THEY HAVE JOBS IN OTHER PLACES, I MEAN, THE VILLAGE, THE VILLAGE, YOU, YOU, YOU CAN'T, YOU, YOU DON'T HAVE THE ABILITY RIGHT NOW THERE'S TRUCKS THAT GO, UH, THROUGH THE VILLAGE ANYWAY.
SO YOU CAN'T, COULD YOU SAY NO TRUCK, JUST LIKE THIS SIDE SIDE? WE CAN'T, THAT'S A STATE ROAD.
THE STATE ROAD ALLOWS FOR THE TRUCKS TO GO THROUGH IT.
I'M JUST TRYING TO MITIGATE ANY ADDITIONAL TRUCKS FROM GOING THROUGH IT STATE ROAD.
UM, AND TO, AND, AND I'M, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS A BIG DISCUSSION AT THE, UH, CONSERVATIONIST MEETING ABOUT AIR QUALITY.
SO I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THESE TRUCKS ON THE PROPERTY ARE GOING TO BE IDLING WHILE THEY'RE BEING LOADED UP.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHETHER YOU ARE MAKING ANY PROVISIONS FOR LEC, YOU KNOW, ELECTRIC CHARGING STATIONS AND THAT SORT OF THING TO EVENTUALLY BE USED ON THIS PROPERTY.
WE CAN TAKE THAT INFORMATION BACK.
AND THEN I'M RESPONSIBLE, I'M CERTAINLY RESPONSIBLE AND I'M ON OUR, I'M SORRY.
ON OUR FACILITY NOW, WE HAVE ABOUT FIVE, UH, ELECTRIC CHARGING STATION.
THE TRUCK TECHNOLOGY ISN'T THERE YET.
AND, UH, WE'RE A FOR-PROFIT BUSINESS.
SO IF OUR TRUCKS IDLED WHILE THEY WERE LOADING FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS, WE WOULD, THOSE DRIVERS WOULD GET IN A LOT OF TROUBLE.
UM, WHILE I AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE TRAFFIC, BECAUSE I DO LIVE NEAR THERE AND BECAUSE, AND I RAISED ALL OF THESE THINGS LAST TIME YOU DID, AND BECAUSE I TRAVERSED THE, THE SELMA RIVER ROAD QUITE A BIT AND ALSO LAWRENCE STREET, AND I SAW, YOU KNOW, THE, THE
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AMOUNT OF, UM, EGREGIOUS, UM, BREACHES OF THE LAW, YOU KNOW, ARE MANIFEST PEOPLE TURN MAKING TURNS INTO THE ONCOMING TRAFFIC LANE, THINGS LIKE THAT.THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO CONTEND WITH.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE YOU, YOU YOURSELF MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE IN FLOOD ZONE.
UM, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO TO AMELIORATE FLOODING AND THAT WHOLE AREA OF LAWRENCE STREET FLOODS ROUTINELY? WELL, TWO THINGS.
ONE, WE CAN'T FIX EXISTING CONDITIONS NECESSARILY, BUT WHAT WE CAN DO IS MAKE SURE THAT ANYTHING WE'RE DOING ON OUR PROPERTY IS NOT EXACERBATING EXISTING CONDITIONS.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE FOCUS THE DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA, WHICH IS PREDOMINANTLY OUTSIDE OF THE FLOOD ZONE.
IF YOU FOLLOW THE FLOOD ZONE, IT'S SHOWN RIGHT ON OUR PLANS, A MAJORITY OF IT, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE SMALL PIECE OF IT IS OUTSIDE OF THE 100 YEAR FLOOD ZONE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW YOUR LAW TO A T, THERE'S NO FILLING WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN THAT'S PERMITTED.
EVERYTHING HAS TO BE BALANCED FROM A SITE STANDPOINT.
SO WE CAN'T HAVE ADDITIONAL FILL OR FILL IN A FLOODPLAIN WITHOUT GOING THROUGH ALL SORTS OF STEPS WITH DOING DIFFERENT STUDIES.
WE HAVE NO INTENTION OF DOING THAT.
WE'RE JUST NOT FILLING WITHIN THE FLOODPLAIN.
SO WE'RE GONNA PRESERVE WHATEVER FLOOD STORAGE IS AVAILABLE.
WE, WE WE'RE GONNA PRESERVE WHATEVER FLOOD STORAGE IS AVAILABLE ON THE PROPERTY.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THE STATE'S REQUIREMENTS AND THE, UH, TOWN'S REQUIREMENTS FROM A STORMWATER STANDPOINT.
THAT'S WATER QUALITY AND WATER QUANTITY CONTROLS AS WELL.
SO RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO TYPES OF TREATMENT, THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THAT.
THE SITE HAS BEEN REMEDIATED, BUT OBVIOUSLY IT WAS PERFORM DEVELOPED.
SO WE'RE GONNA IMPLEMENT WATER QUALITY STRUCTURES AS WELL AS A FULL STORM WATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEMS MANAGED STORM WATER.
BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE CREATING A, A TREMENDOUS AREA OF POTENTIALLY A HARD SURFACE MATERIAL, NOT, NOT ALL OF IT.
WELL, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME.
WE, SO I WANT YOU TO REVISIT THAT TO, WE, WE KNOW WE NEED TO MANAGE THE STORM WATER THAT'S COMING FROM THAT PAD.
WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH COUNTY ENGINEER OLA AND DISCUSSED THAT.
AND THERE WILL BE SUBSURFACE DRAINAGE TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S REQUIRED.
THE BALANCE OF THE SITE IS CURRENTLY IN THE ITEM FOR GRAVEL, UH, TYPE OF BASE AND MM-HMM
WE WILL TRY TO KEEP IT AS PERVIOUS AS POSSIBLE FOR STORMWATER PURPOSES.
AND, AND MAYBE ONE OF THE MORE IMPORTANT THINGS IS THE TYPES OF MATERIALS THAT, UM, GEORGE AND JOHN ARE PLANNING ON STORING.
THERE ARE THE KINDS OF MATERIALS THAT ACTUALLY CAN BE OUTSIDE, CAN BE SUBJECT TO WEATHER AND, YOU KNOW, NOT THAT ANYBODY WANTS THEM TO BE SUBMERGED AND IN A FLOOD AREA, BUT IT, IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY'RE WELL AWARE OF THE SITE AND ITS CONDITIONS AND STILL FELT THAT IT WAS AN APPROPRIATE LOCATION FOR THIS KIND OF USE OTHER THAN THE 30,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE IN THE FUTURE.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER QUESTION BECAUSE THEN, WELL NOT NOW, BUT YOU ARE CREATING MORE TRAFFIC FOR DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THAT.
TEMPORARY, TEMPORARY, TEMPORARY.
JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE BUILDING WOULD BE FOR THE SAME USE.
IT JUST ALLOWS THEM TO HAVE SOME, SOME ASPECT OF IT WITHIN A BUILDING THAT'S ALL UNDERSTOOD.
AND JUST, YOU KNOW, WANT TO MAKE A POINT OF IT BECAUSE WE ARE DISCUSSING IT AND FOR THE FIRST TIME MEMBERS OF THE LEY BOARD HERE WITH US, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY WERE PARTY TO THAT PREVIOUS DISCUSSION, SO, UNDERSTOOD.
I JUST THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTOOD.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY NERVOUS ABOUT, UM, THE, THE PEDESTRIANS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, WALKING TO, UH, UH, UH, THE RIVERTOWN SQUARE.
UM, ALSO, UH, THE SIDEWALK CURRENTLY IS ON YOUR SIDE OF THE STREET RATHER THAN MM-HMM
AND I'M SORT OF THINKING THAT, AND YOU'VE ALSO THE SOUTH COUNTY AND NORTH COUNTY TRAIL, I GUESS THE ANDREW WORK TRAIL NOW.
UM, UM, BUT I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FROM A SAFETY POINT OF VIEW TO PUT THE SIDE, TO HAVE A SIDEWALK THAT WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
BECAUSE IF CAR, IF BASICALLY PEDESTRIANS ARE WALKING AND THERE'S TRUCKS, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, COMING AND GOING, UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE, AND RIGHT NOW YOU, YOU HAVE NO BUS STOP.
UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE NO BUS STOP AT RIVERTOWN SQUARE.
SO YOU HAVE A LOT, YOU HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WALKING THEREALLY.
THERE WAS SOMEBODY FROM HASTINGS WHO WAS INJURED, BUT THAT WAS ON SAWMILL PARKWAY.
BUT YOU GOT THE BUS STOP ON THE NORTH SIDE OF LAWRENCE STREET.
NO, THEY WOULD HAVE TO ACROSS, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY WOULD HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET ACROSS LAUREN STREET.
THERE SHOULD BE A SIDEWALK ON, SIDEWALK ON, UM, THE LIGHT SIDE LIGHT.
WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT YOU HAVE TO CROSS FROM THE
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BUS STOP TO GET TO THAT NEW SIDEWALK ACROSS LAUREN HAVE TO CROSS.SO YOU HAVE TO CROSS HELPFUL SHARE SCREEN AND SUPERVISOR.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE BOARD TO SEE, UM, THE IMAGE OF WHAT'S THERE AND, AND THE CHALLENGES THAT WOULD EVEN EXIST IF YOU TRIED TO PUT SIDE, BECAUSE I, I GO ON IT LIKE I'M GETTING I'LL AT LEAST EVERY OTHER WEEK OR SOMETHING.
SO I'M REALLY FAMILIAR WITH IT.
I, AND I'VE SEEN, YOU KNOW, ACCIDENTS.
I MEAN, I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SEE PEDESTRIAN.
SO MY TELLING, SO, SO OUR PROPERTY IS ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.
OBVIOUSLY THE SIDEWALK SHOULD BE, RIGHT NOW YOU HAVE, WAIT, WHERE'S THE BIKE PATH? AND THERE'S THE SIDEWALK IS THE SIDEWALK, RIGHT? SO YOU HAVE THE BUS STOP OVER THERE.
THIS IS THE COUNTY TRAIL, RIGHT? THERE'S A COUNTY TRAIL SIDEWALK.
YOU HAVE TRUCKS COMING AND GO, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TRUCKS GOING AND YOU'RE GONNA, AND MY FEELING IS THAT YOU, THERE COULD BE AN ACCIDENT IF YOU HAD THE SIDEWALK ON THIS SIDE, THEN, THEN IT WON'T, AND THEN WELL, PEOPLE HAVE TO CROSS ON SUN MILL RIVER RIVER ROAD FROM THE BUS STOP ACROSS, ACROSS LAUREN STREET TO ACCESS THAT SIDEWALK.
THEN THEY GET TO THE SIDEWALK PARK LANE AND THEY HIT TO CROSS BACK FOR THE CROSS FOR THE CROSSWALK.
I, I WOULD ALSO MAKE TWO MORE POINTS WITH THAT.
ALTHOUGH, AGAIN, AT VALID POINT, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE LOOKED AT.
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S TRUCK TRAFFIC, BUT I DON'T, I ASK YOU TO ALSO LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF VEHICLE TRIPS AS WELL.
I DO THINK THE USE ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF LAWRENCE STREET IS A HIGHER GENERATOR OF TRAFFIC, HAS MORE TRIPS COMING AND GOING ON A REGULAR BASIS.
AND AGAIN, LEADS TO MORE CONFLICT POINTS, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WEEKEND USES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
WHEN WE HAVE OUR USE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY, IT'S REALLY A LIMITED NUMBER OF TRIPS.
THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE WILL BE OPENED UP.
IT'LL BE A NEW SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENT.
THERE'LL BE ADEQUATE CROSSING AT EACH LOCATION.
RIGHT NOW, THESE ARE OLDER DRIVEWAYS, THEY'RE MUCH WIDER.
THEY COULD BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED FROM THAT SIDE.
I JUST THINK WE COULD DO A VERY GOOD JOB WITH SIDEWALKS AND SIDEWALK CROSSINGS ON OUR SIDE THAT I THINK WILL ADDRESS A NUMBER OF THESE CASES.
YOU MENTIONED, HOLD, SORRY, HOLD ON.
BUT YOU MENTIONED, YOU SAID THE WEEKEND, THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I HEARD.
SO ARE YOU GONNA BE OPEN ON SATURDAY MORNINGS OR IS THIS A MONDAY, FRIDAY, THE WEEKENDS SATURDAY, SUNDAY TRUCKS MOVING SATURDAY, I THINK NOT SO FREQUENTLY.
THEY, THEY DON'T REALLY MOVE, BUT WE JUST, UH, MOVE EQUIPMENT AROUND ON THE INSIDE BETWEEN SEVEN TO 12 ON A SATURDAY.
AND I GUESS THEORETICALLY TO THE MAYOR'S COMMENT EARLIER, A RIDER TRUCK COULD COME OUT ON YEAH, A HUNDRED PERCENT.
YOU KNOW, SO NOBODY'S GONNA SAY TO YOU IT'S INACTIVE COMPLETELY ON THE WEEKEND.
I THINK DIEGO WAS JUST LESS, HE WAS REFERRING TO THE USE ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS RATHER ACTIVE.
SO TO THE EXTENT THAT YOU ARE ALL FOCUSED ON PEDESTRIAN AND VEHICULAR MOVEMENT AND TRAFFIC SAFETY, THE NUMBER EMPIRICALLY SCIENCE, THE NUMBER OF MOVEMENTS ACROSS THE STREET DRAMATICALLY EXCEED THE NUMBER OF MOVEMENTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THIS SITE.
NOW THAT YOU HAVE RESTRICTED IT TO OUTDOOR STORAGE, WE, WE, WE WE'RE, WE'VE PRETTY MUCH RUN OUTTA TIME, BUT ONE, ONE OTHER POINT.
UM, SO THE ACCESS POINTS TO THE PROPERTY WILL BE EAST OF THE, UM, OF THE, THE ANDREW O'ROURKE TRAIL, CORRECT? YES, YES, YES.
SO YOU'LL NOT BE CROSSING THAT? NO, NOT ON ANYONE.
AND THERE WOULD BE A BUFFER BETWEEN THE TRAIL AND THIS PROPERTY SCREENING, ET CETERA.
NO TRUCKS WOULD BE GOING IN OR OUT THAT WAY.
I HAVE ONE OTHER POINT, BUT I WANT TO ASK IF TRUSTEE
WE'RE JUMPING INTO THIS KIND OF LATE AND HAVEN'T SEEN PRIOR ITERATIONS HAS ALREADY, THIS IS JUST KICKING OFF TRUSTEE, JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS IS LITERALLY NIGHT ONE.
ANY THOUGHT THEN, YOU KNOW, AND I ECHO THE MAYOR'S CONCERNS ABOUT TRAFFIC AND AIR POLLUTION AND OTHER THINGS, BUT PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS PROBABLY MY NUMBER ONE CONCERN.
AND I, I PERSONALLY DON'T SEE HOW THIS COULD BE CONFIGURED SAFELY ON WARREN STREET BEING VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA.
HAS IT BEEN, THE FEASIBILITY BEEN TO ACTUALLY TO TRY TO MAKE AN ENTRANCE AND EXIT ONTO SAW MILL RIVER ROAD DIRECTLY? AND IS THAT JUST ECONOMICALLY NOT POSSIBLE? UH, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE THEN YOU COULD GET THE STATE INVOLVED, MAYBE HAVE SOME, A TRAFFIC LIGHT THERE.
THAT WOULD BE JUST FOR YOUR PURPOSES.
SO THAT'S A TERRIFIC QUESTION.
WE STUDIED THAT CONSIDERABLY BETWEEN THE LAST MEETING AND TODAY.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S THERE.
BUT THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT COME INTO PLAY.
IT'S NOT JUST THE STATE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE AN ACCESS TO A ROADWAY WITH A SIGNALED INTERSECTION.
YOU'RE CREATING ANOTHER INTERSECTION WITH SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
NOT TO MENTION NOW YOU NEED TO CROSS THE SAW MILL ITSELF, SAW MILL RIVER.
SO WHATEVER, FROM AN ENVIRONMENTAL STANDPOINT, ENVIRONMENTAL, VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT.
BUT IT'S, IT IS ANOTHER THING,
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WHETHER IT'S ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS, NOW, THE NEW YORK STATE, DEC WITH NEW REGULATIONS, OBVIOUSLY THIS WILL BE AN URBAN AREA, SO THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY WITH THIS AS WELL.SO THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS, CURB THAT, THAT, THAT COME INTO FACTOR AND COME INTO PLAY.
SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY LOOKED AT AND EVALUATED, BUT WHEN YOU HAVE AN EXISTING ROADWAY THAT YOU'RE ABUTTING TO A SIGNALED INTERSECTION FROM THE DOT STANDPOINT, THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THAT.
AND THAT WOULD BE ARGUMENTATIVE.
JUST THE POINT IS, AT THAT PART, AT THAT AREA OF SAW RIVER ROAD ON SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, THERE'S ALMOST NO PEDESTRIAN, UH, TRAFFIC.
UH, THE LIKELIHOOD OF PEDESTRIANS BEING INJURED IS PROBABLY MILL AS OPPOSED TO LAUREN STREET.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, LOT, MOST OF THE, MOST OF THE PEOPLE THAT WORK AT RIVERTOWN SQUARES TAKE THE BUS AND THEY GET OFF THE BUS AT, AT THAT INTERSECTION.
THEY HAVE TO WALK AND NO, YOU KNOW, IT ONLY TAKES ONE TRUCK TO HAVE A SERIOUS ACCIDENT THAT COULD KILL SOMEBODY, ONE CAR, ONE VEHICLE, IT'S ANYTHING.
ESPECIALLY THE TRUCKS, NOT JUST TRUCK.
WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE ZERO TOLERANCE IN NEW YORK CITY BECAUSE OF THE TRUCKS AND BUSES.
SO WE, WE, WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER.
WE'RE FAIRLY CONFIDENT THAT THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC ENGINEER WOULD NOT COUNT AS OUR TRYING TO DO A CURB CUT ONTO NINE A.
WE'RE HAPPY TO SUBMIT THE DATA AND ALLOW, ALLOW SOME OTHER EXPERT TO COMMENT ON THAT.
THAT WAS JUST MY ONLY CONCERN.
UM, MY, MY ONLY, UH, POINT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I COULD SEE HOW YOU'RE GETTING IN.
I'M WONDERING HOW YOU'RE GONNA GET OUT OF THERE BECAUSE THE, THE TRAFFIC ON LAWRENCE STREET IS SIGNIFICANT AND YOU HAVE TO TURN LEFT AND, YOU KNOW, THE WAY THE CARS MOVE THERE, AND THEY EVEN GO INTO THE OPPOSITE LANES TO GET UP TO THE TURN LANE.
IT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S MESSY TRAFFIC WISE.
AND I, I THINK, I THINK YOUR EGRESS IS GONNA, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IS GONNA BE A PROMISE.
LOOK, I I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S MESSY.
I THINK IT, I DON'T SEE IT'S FEASIBLE TO DO THAT.
IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF THE, YOU COULD GO ON TO THE SOMA RIVER PARKWAY, BUT YOU CAN'T.
SO I, I JUST, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE A BOTTLENECK THERE AND THE BOTTLENECK IS GOING TO BE GOING IN AND GOING OUT.
AND IF, YOU KNOW, IF YOU STUDIED THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE NOT TONIGHT, BUT IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SHARE WITH US, HOW DO YOU EXPECT THAT TO WORK? OKAY.
UM, THIS WAS BECAUSE WE HAVE A NEW POLICY IN ARDSLEY ABOUT THE USE OF, UM, NATIVE NON-INVASIVE PLANTS.
I SAW THAT THERE WERE PICTURES.
I KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING TRUSTEE EDINE IS VERY INVOLVED IN THAT I WOULD ASK THAT ANY LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT HE, THAT IT IS PUT ON THIS PROPERTY COULD BE NATIVE NON-INVASIVE PLANTS.
UM, AS WE CONTINUE TO, TO POLLINATE OUR AREA, I, I ASSURE AND CONSIDER SOLAR PANELS ON THAT BUILDING IN THE BUILDING.
I, I ASSURE YOU, GREENBERG'S, UH, UM, DEPARTMENT OF CONSERVATION AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UH, TAKES THE SAME REVIEW OF OUR LANDSCAPING PLANS.
SO WE'LL ASSURE WE AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
THIS IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU WERE MENTIONING THE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, BUT I KNOW ELLEN AND I, WE MET WITH THE STATE DOT YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MONTHS AGO WHEN ANDREA STEWART COUSINS WERE, WAS THERE THINKING WERE THERE.
AND, UM, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY EVENTUALLY OF HAVING A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE, YOU KNOW, OVER THE, THE PARKWAY.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, MY FAILING IS, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS SORT OF LIKE, THIS MIGHT BE LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY IF EVERYBODY COULD WORK TOGETHER, IF WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING, YOU KNOW, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME SAFETY RISKS OVER HERE, BUT IF WE COULD GET A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE THAT COULD, UH, BECOME A PLUS RATHER THAN, YOU KNOW, A MINUS IN TERMS OF PEDESTRIAN, PEDESTRIAN SAFETY BECAUSE WE HAVE HAD ACCIDENTS, UM, YOU KNOW, A NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS OVER THE YEARS, UH, PEOPLE CROSSING.
AND MAYBE, UH, THIS, MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU TRAFFIC PEOPLE COULD ALSO LOOK AT.
YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD MAKE THIS A WIN FOR THE WHOLE COMMUNITY.
THANK YOU EVERYBODY FOR JOINING EVERYBODY.
IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE UNTIL LATER.
WE GOTTA HOPEFULLY DEPEND ON WHAT TIME WE GET OUT.
HOW YOU DOING? THANK YOU AGAIN.
HAVE A GOOD, ALL EVERYONE HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
DAVID, DID YOU HAVE COATS OVER HERE? A WHOLE BUNCH OF, DID YOU SELL, DID YOU SELL DAVID'S COAT? I DID.
AND I RECEIVED, WELL THAT WOULD'VE BEEN MINE.
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HAS THEIR PULSES.HAVE A NICE, GOOD TO SEE YOU, DAVID.
AND THANK YOU FOR LISTENING TO US.
SORRY FOR TRYING TO CLOSE THE DOOR BY THE WAY.
A YEAH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK NOTES IF YOU DON'T MIND, WALTER.
I'M GONNA SAVE MOST OF MY REMARKS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TOMORROW.
I KNOW THE SUPERVISOR ASKED, UH, FOR SOME OUTREACH ABOUT SOLICITING RESIDENT INTEREST AND ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS.
WE COMPILED ALL THAT INFORMATION AND I KNOW I EMAILED IT TO THE BOARD, BUT I'M GONNA MAKE THAT PART OF THE PRESENTATION TOMORROW.
AS FAR AS THE ACTUAL A DU LOCAL LAW, THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING WE HAD WAS IN DECEMBER.
THE PUBLIC, THE, THE, THE LOCAL LAW THAT'S POSTED FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING TOMORROW ONLY HAS ONE MINOR MODIFICATION.
AND THAT WAS A CLARIFICATION ON A DU SIZE AND WITH PERCENTAGES OF GROSS FLOOR AREA.
UM, THE TOWN BOARD RESERVES THE RIGHT OF COURSE, TO REQUEST ANY OTHER MODIFICATIONS YOU SEEK.
AND YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM MANY I IMAGINE TOMORROW.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST LET ME KNOW WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE TO HEAD, BUT THAT'S THE ONLY CHANGE TO THE LOCAL LAW, UM, THAT'S POSTED FOR THE MEETING TOMORROW, I WILL PRESENT UPDATES TO THE PUBLIC.
AND, UM, HAVING SAID THAT, TO WALTER SIMON OF THE ACCESSIBLE VIABLE LIVING COMMITTEE DID, UH, WANNA REACH OUT ON BEHALF OF THE COMMITTEE AND SPEAK FOR A COUPLE MINUTES WITH THE TOWN BOARD, UH, RELATED TO, UM, SOME ADVOCACY THAT THEY FEEL IS NECESSARY REGARDING THIS LAW.
UM, THE A B JUST, WE JUST, WE'RE ON A REALLY TIGHT SCHEDULE THOUGH FOR TONIGHT PARTICULARLY.
SO IF WE COULD GET THE ABBREVIATED VERSION BECAUSE WE ARE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING TOMORROW, WE'D APPRECIATE IT.
WELL, I, I JUST WANTED, UM, THE PARTICULAR LAW THAT, UH, A VM ON THE PLANNING BOARD SENT TO THE TOWN BOARD.
THE TOWN BOARD CAME BACK AND MADE TWO, UH, MADE TWO CHANGES.
UH, THE FIRST CHANGE WAS THAT, UH, AS I UNDERSTAND THE LAW THAT BASICALLY IS SAYING THAT IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE THREE STRUCTURES ON A BUILDING, IT, THE SIZE OF THE LOT MUST BE 20,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO IF YOU HAVE A HOUSE WITH A DETACHED GARAGE AND THEN YOU WANT TO PUT AN A DU ON IT, THAT'S THREE STRUCTURES.
AND SO FOR STRUCTURE LIKE THAT, IT SHOULD BE A MINIMUM OF 20,000 FEET.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE OWE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD AND THE A DL NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT, BUT WE THINK IT MAKES SENSE AND WE HIGHLY RECOMMEND CAN, ARE THESE YOUR POINTS HERE? ARE THESE YES, YES.
THERE'S NO, I PRINTED THEM OUT AND I JUST QUICKLY WROTE ON THE TOP.
BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, WHY CAN'T THIS BE SAID ON THE RECORD? SO THERE'S A TRANSCRIPT AS OPPOSED TO HERE WHERE THERE IS NO TRANSCRIPT.
I MEAN, BUT THIS WAS A LAST MINUTE THING.
UH, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT.
UH, THE LAST WOULD'VE BEEN A VERY HECTIC WEEK, UH, FOR ME WITH SEVERAL FUNERALS AND A MEDICAL ISSUE.
SO, SORRY, I JUST BARELY WAS ABLE TO, UH, UH, UH, SCRIBBLED THIS OUT THIS AFTERNOON.
BUT I DID THAT BECAUSE I THINK IT'S FAR MORE PRODUCTIVE TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT ISSUES PRIOR TO MAKING A FORMAL PRESENTATION.
SO I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO DO THAT TODAY.
THE OTHER THING, AS THE COMMITTEE WAS LOOKING AT THE FACT OF THE SECOND THING THAT YOU DID THAT THE TOWN BOARD DID THAT IS RESTRICT, UH, ADUS ON ANYTHING LESS THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND BECAUSE OF A LEGITIMATE ISSUE OF THE TOWN IN TERMS OF PARKING.
AND THE MORE I THOUGHT ABOUT IT, 'CAUSE ORIGINALLY WE, THAT SHEET WE, UH, PRINTED OUT, WE SAID, OKAY, WHAT IS THE EFFECT IF WE, IF THE TOWN RESTRICTED ADUS ON LESS THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET? SO THAT'S WHAT THAT CHART DID.
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IT THEN THE MORE I ANALYZED THAT CHART, I SAID TO MYSELF, THE ISSUE IS RARELY AN ISSUE OF PARKING.IT'S NOT AN ISSUE OF MINIMUM SQUARE FEET.
SO IF THE ISSUE IS PARKING, WHY NOT ADDRESS PARKING? IF THAT'S THE ISSUE, WHY NOT ADDRESS PARKING RATHER THAN JUST SAY THAT ANYTHING BELOW 10,000 SQUARE FEET, IT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED IF THEY CHOOSE PARKING.
SO I USED AN EXAMPLE OF MY BROTHER'S FORMER HOUSE.
HE LIVED IN PARKWAY GARDENS ON, UH, R FIVE.
HE HAD A TWO CAR DETACHED GARAGE AND A LONG DRIVEWAY.
SO THEORETICALLY ON THE, THE CURRENT PROPERTY OWNER COULD PARK SEVEN CARS ON HIS PROPERTY, TWO IN THE GARAGE, TWO IN FRONT OF HIS GARAGE, AND THREE ON THAT LONG PARKWAY SO THAT THAT OWNER CAN PARK SEVEN CARS.
SO TO SAY THAT HE SHOULD NOT PUT A DU WHEN HE HAVE MORE THAN AMPLE PARKING.
AND IF, IF AMPLE PARKING IS THE ISSUE, THEN WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THE ABILITY TO PARK CARS ON PROPERTY LOWER THAN 10,000 FEET, RATHER AT 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
RATHER THAN TO SAY ANYTHING LOWER THAN 10,000 SQUARE FEET SHOULD BE OFF THE TABLE.
YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY THERE'S SOME VALIDITY.
IF WE HAD AN ASSESSMENT OF ALL PROPERTIES, THERE ARE TWO THINGS, TWO PARTS, ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT HAVE THAT.
BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY TRUE OF EVERY PROPERTY.
AND I WOULD SAY THAT WAS MORE OF THE EXCEPTION THAN THE RULE.
SO THEN TO MAKE A LAW, AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN TRY TO TAKE A LOOK AT IT TO SOME DEGREE, BUT I, I DON'T THINK THE OTHER IS THIS, AND I HAVE TO ADMIT THIS.
SO WHEN I LIVED IN A, IN A DETACHED, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME, I HAD A GARAGE THAT HAD TANDEM PARKING AND IT WAS SUCH A PAIN IN THE NECK TO MOVE ONE CAR TO GET TO THE OTHER CAR.
OFTEN WE JUST PARK IN THE STREET.
BUT WE COULD, BECAUSE IT WASN'T A, A BUSY STREET, IT WAS ONE WAY, WHATEVER.
SO WE COULD, I MEAN, WE GOT PUNISHED BECAUSE A, A BRANCH FELL ON AND A SNOW STORM IN TOTAL.
BUT THAT
THE, THE POINT OF IT IS THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL OPT AND I, I'VE HAD, UM, AN INSTANT IN WHICH I WAS INVOLVED IN, IN LOOKING AT A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT WAS BEING PAVED AND INCLUDED A BIKE LANE.
AND THE, THE PEOPLE WERE UP IN ARMS. PEOPLE HAVE MORE CARS.
THEY JUST DO, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, A LOT OF THESE HOUSES WERE BUILT, THEY WERE BUILT.
PEOPLE HAD ONE CAR FOR FAMILY, MAYBE TWO.
AND THEN, BUT NOW YOU HAVE YOUR KIDS LIVING AT HOME AND YOU HAVE, SO THAT YEAH, I'M FINE.
THAT WORKS FOR THAT ONE INSTANCE.
AND THERE MIGHT BE A FEW MORE, BUT OKAY, BUT MR. SIMON, JUST FULL TO RESPECT, ARE YOU, THESE ARE THE SAME COMMENTS YOU'RE GONNA BRING TOMORROW? 'CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A TRANS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M NOT I'M THAT EVERYTHING IS, EVERYTHING IS YOU ARE NOT COMING TOMORROW.
NO, I, I, I MORE, NO, I CAN'T MAKE IT TOMORROW.
FOR, FOR ME TO COME TOMORROW OR A MAJOR STRETCH FOR ME.
BUT, BUT, UH, BUT I'M SAYING SEE, BUT THE ASSUMPTION IS THAT IF YOU HAVE A LARGER LOT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO JOCKEY CARS.
YOU COULD HAVE A LARGER LOT AND YOU STILL HAVE TO JOCKEY CARS.
SO THE ISSUE BE, IT STILL BECOMES, UH, UH, THOSE PROPERTIES AS FEW AS THEY MIGHT BE, BUT, BUT THERE ARE, IF YOU GO AROUND THE TOWN, THERE ARE SEVERAL, MANY LOTS LIKE THAT SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO VARIANCE? OKAY.
UH, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT CAN MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS, WHY SAY THEY CAN'T DO IT.
AND FOR THOSE PROPERTIES THAT CANNOT DEMONSTRATE THAT ON THAT R FIVE THEY CAN HAVE SUFFICIENT PARKING, THEN THEY DON'T, THEN THEY CAN'T BILL.
I MEAN, NO, WE CAN TAKE THIS ALL CONSIDERATION.
BUT RATHER THAN JUST MAKE IT, IF PARKING THE ISSUE
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DEAL WITH PARKING.AND YOU'VE EXPLAINED THAT AND THAT'S A GOOD POINT, BUT YOU SAID THAT A NUMBER OF TIMES WE, WE REALLY NEED TO READ THIS AND DIGEST IT.
BUT THAT, THAT IS MY, MY MY KEY POINT.
THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT THIS IN TIMES OF LOT SIZE, AND YOU SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IT IN TERMS OF THE BUILDING OF A LOT TO ACCOMMODATE THE REQUIRED NUMBERS OF CARS.
AND YOU COULD ALSO SUBMIT THIS AS PART OF THE RECORD, THIS DOCUMENT, BECAUSE THE HEARING YEAH.
SAYING IF YOU CANNOT ATTEMPT TOMORROW, SUBMIT IT AND IT'LL BE ON PART OF THE LETTER.
WILL ANYONE ELSE FROM, OH, I, I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVE BEEN RUNNING AROUND ALL DAY, BUT I WOULD, UH, UH, I'LL SEND A, I'LL SEND A NOTE OUT AND SEE IF ANYBODY'S AVAILABLE.
BUT, UH, AND GARY GARRETT ALSO MENTIONED TO ME THAT, UH, BASED ON THE NUMBER OF INQUIRIES WE'VE GOTTEN, A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAD WRITTEN TO ME BASICALLY WOULD QUALIFY FOR ADUS.
ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS, YOU KNOW, I MADE, WHICH I THINK, UH, WOULD, ORIGINALLY I SUGGESTED A SUNSET, BUT, YOU KNOW, CLOSE AT THE END OF THE TWO YEARS, UH, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO IT OVER.
BUT ANOTHER OPTION, WHICH I THINK YOU WERE MORE RECEPTIVE WOULD BE, UH, TO GIVE AN ANNUAL REPORT.
UM, AND THEN, UM, AT THE END OF EACH YEAR, WE WOULD BASICALLY GET A REPORT.
THAT'S WHAT I OUTLINED IN, IN THE SAFEGUARDS THAT, THAT IF YOU, YOU KNOW, JUST FROM HISTORY OF THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES AROUND, WE ARE GETTING MAYBE SIX, EIGHT APPLICATIONS IN A YEAR.
YOU SEE, AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL BE ANY GREAT, UH, UH, UH, CHANGE IN THIS TOWN.
SIX TO EIGHT RANGE APPLICATION.
THEREFORE, PLUS GARRETT ALREADY, HE COMMITTED THAT HE WOULD KEEP, UH, DETAILED RECORDS AND WHO'S APPLYING HOW MANY GETS SOME, SO YOU, YOUR RISK PLUS IS, PLUS IS A SPECIAL PERMIT.
SO YOU HAVE A LOT OF SAFEGUARDS IN THAT IF YOU TAKE THIS APPROACH AND WELL, WE, WE, WE HEAR YOU.
WE'LL DULY TAKE IT INTO CONSIDERATION.
SO WE CAN NEED TO TAKE THIS BACK AND WE ALL NEED TO DISCUSS IT BEFORE.
I DID CIRCULATE THIS BY EMAIL TO THE BOARD AND COUNCIL GREENBERG CIVIC ASSOCIATION SUBMITTED SOMETHING TODAY, WHICH I ALSO CIRCULATED TO THE TOWN BOARD VIA EMAIL.
HOW ALWAYS THE, THE GIST OF WHAT THEY SENT PEOPLE WHO I REALLY HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT TOO CLOSELY.
UM, ONE OF THE MAIN POINTS WAS THEY JUST FEEL THERE SHOULD BE BROADER OUTREACH, UM, BEYOND ANY EBLAST IS ONE OF THE THINGS I PICKED UP.
WORKSHOP IN THE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
I ALSO, I ALSO, I, I GUESS I, I'VE BEEN SPEAKING TO A FEW, UH, WHAT'S MCCAULEY? YEAH.
AND HE INDICATED ALSO A, IN FACT, I, I'LL, I'M GOING TO INVITE HIM TO ATTEND SOME OF THE MEETINGS.
HE, HE, UH, INDICATED THAT, UH, FOR THE VETERANS THAT HE REPRESENT, THEY'RE STRONGLY IN FAVOR OF THE TOWN DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
WE REALLY DO DO, SO WE'RE WORKING.
WE DON'T DOUBT, SEE THE THING, I DON'T DOUBT THAT THERE ISN'T A DESIRE OF THE TOWN TO DO IT.
THE THING IS, WE SHOULD TAKE THE STEP AND, AND DO IT.
TAKING THIS FIRST STEP, I THINK HAS A WHOLE LOT OF BUILT IN SAFE THOUGHTS.
SO RATHER THAN SAYING THAT THIS IS A PERMANENT, UH, UH, CODE THAT WILL WILL BE IN PLACE FOREVER WITH NO WAY OF CHECKING ITS EFFICIENCY.
AND SO WE HAVE STRONG CONTROLS IN THERE TO CHECK IT AND TWEAK.
WE'RE NOT GONNA GET A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS.
WHY NOT TAKE THE BOLD STEP AND DO IT.
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OKAY.SO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE ONLY DIFFERENCE WOULD BE THIS INFORMATION WOULD BE ABLE TO PUT, UM, ON YOU ON THE OFFICIAL AGENDA OR ON THE RECORD IF YOU WANT.
ON THE RECORD, IF YOU WANT THAT IN WRITING.
IF YOU'RE LETTING ME VERBALLY KNOW THAT, WE WILL STAMP IT AND MAKE IT PART OF THE YES.
YOU CAN MAKE, MAKE IT PART OF THAT.
ONLY I TO IS JUST, UM, EMAIL TO PUBLIC HEARING.
WHO'S RYAN ROBINSON? I THINK HE'S A SCOUT.
AND WHAT IS THIS? CONFIRMATION? UH, WE DO THIS EVERY YEAR, EXTENDING COMMUNITY.
UM, THEY, UH, HAVE A EVENT EVERY YEAR.
UH, UM, SO WE JUST, THEY WANT, SO ARE WE SIGNING IT OR ARE WE SIGNING? YEAH, I HAVE IT IN, IN MY OFFICE.
IS IT COMING FROM IT'S COMING FROM THE TOWN BOARD OR YOUR OFFICE? WELL, WHEN WE, WHEN WE, OF COURSE IT COME FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
WHY WOULD YOU THINK BETWEEN BE, WHEN WE FINISH THIS SESSION? YOU CAN RUN TO YOUR OFFICE.
I NEED TO GET THROUGH THIS EXECUTIVE SESSION.
DO WE HAVE THE LATEST INFORMATION ON TB TWO TO FINALIZE THAT? A DOLLAR AMOUNT? OH, NO, I'M SORRY.
I'LL, I'LL BRING IT IN TO YOU.
I KNOW WE DIDN'T HAVE THE DATA.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO ALONG WITH CG ONE THAT'S, UH, RELATING TO, UH, THE ZONING AUDIENCE AMENDMENTS FOR THE FOUR CORNERS.
WHICH ONE ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? THAT'S A CD ONE.
YOU ALL AGREED TO IT, BUT, UH, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION CONTRACT WAS SUBMITTED.
IT WAS REVIEWED BY LEGAL, UH, MINOR COMMENTS.
SO, UM, THE CONTRACT LOOKS FINE.
YEAH, WE JUST HAVE TO PUT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT.
WELL, THE VERSION WE HAVE, SO I, OH, AND CD.
IT SHOULD BE A DOLLAR AND HALF CD ONE.
UM, PO ONE, UH, POLICE DEPARTMENT, I WAS MAKING, UH, SOME SUGGESTIONS IN TERMS OF, UH, TRAFFIC SAFETY, REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT, WHICH IS NICE.
I WAS WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED.
IT'S MORE THAN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
IT'S THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL AND THE SAFETY COMMITTEE OF THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL.
CO PO O2 IS GONNA LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
UM, IT'S UP ON THE WEBSITE, BUT THE AGENDAS WERE PRINTED BEFORE.
UH, THE MODIFICATION, UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, REGARDING THE ACTUAL STREETS.
SO THEY'RE ALL LAID OUT AND THEY'RE LAID OUT NOW IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.
UH, THEY DIDN'T, UH, THINK IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE TO HAVE THEM ALL AS ONE RESOLUTION.
SO THEY DID LONG VIEW SECTION OF EDGE MOD SEPARATELY FROM SOUTHERN, UH, GREENVILLE SECTION.
WHAT'S PO FOUR? WHAT'S THE CHANGE FOR THE PARKING OH FOUR RESOLUTION, ADOPTING RECOMMENDATION OF THE GREEN BEAR POLICE DEPARTMENT AMEND PARKING RESTRICTIONS ON MAPLE RIDGE COURT.
DOES EVERYONE, THAT'S THE ONE, RIGHT?
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I CAN LOOK UP, YEAH, I GOTTA LOOK AT THE RESOLUTION AGAIN.OKAY, WE'LL SEE THE CHIEF LETTER.
IT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT SAYS.
IT'S MAPLE RIDGE COURT ON THE NORTH SIDE, UH, ALL DAY.
YOU CAN'T PARK, UM, WITHIN 50 FEET, 30 FEET OF PORT HILL ROAD AND THE CHANGES BEING MADE.
WHY? AT THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SITE DISTANCES, IT COULD BE WHATEVER.
A RESTRICTED SITE DISTANCE AND, UH, SUBSEQUENT UNSAFE CONDITION EXISTS WHEN VEHICLES ARE PARKED ON MAPLE RIDGE COURT WITHIN 30 FEET OF WARD HILL ROAD.
SIMILARLY, I ASSUME THEN CO SIX IS A PO.
CAN WE JUST CLARIFY WITH OUR LIAISON REPORTS, ARE WE GOING TO DO ONE REPORT, KEEP IT TO ONE, AND DO JUST GO EACH DO ONE IN A SESSION? OR HAVE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER DO MULTIPLE.
EACH, LET'S DO WE, DO WE HAVE ONE TALK ABOUT THEIR MULTIPLE LIAISONS, OR DO WE HAVE, UM, OR EACH OF US TALK ABOUT ONE OF THE LIAISON? THAT'S WHAT THINGS RIGHT, THAT, WELL, SHE, JUDY WAS ASKING, SO, AND I WANT TO, AND I WASN'T CLEAR EITHER, SO I WAS CLARIFYING WHAT IF WE JUST SAID EVERYBODY COULD LIMIT THEIR COMMENTS TO LIKE, SAY TWO OR THREE MINUTES.
THAT'S NOT THE, THAT'S THE POINT.
NO, I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SAY SOMETHING THEY CAN, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION.
SO PAUL IS SAYING SHOULDN'T BE ONE COUNCIL MEMBER DELIVERY REPORT.
SO ALL GOING, SO WE HAVE TWO, WE'RE ALL GONNA DO SOMETHING, RIGHT? YOU CAN, RIGHT.
AND YOU CAN FOCUS ON LIKE ONE THING, OR YOU CAN FOCUS ON MULTIPLE THINGS, BUT JUST TRY KEEPING IT TO LIKE TWO MINUTES OR THREE MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES.
I THINK WE SHOULD FOCUS ON ONE OF OUR LIAISON SHIPS, SHIPS AND TALK.
AND THEN NEXT, NEXT TWO WEEKS, WE'LL TALK ABOUT ANOTHER, ANOTHER ONE INSTEAD OF, YEAH.
DON'T HAVE TO BE GOING TO A HUNDRED MILES AN HOUR.
ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT, FRANCIS? NO, BECAUSE THERE MAY BE, THERE MAY BE A, AN IMPORTANT VERY FASTING TO SAY ABOUT ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS THAT YOU'D LIKE THE PUBLIC TO KNOW, BUT THEN IF YOU SAY THAT YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT, I THINK THERE SHOULD JUST BE A TIME LIMIT.
MOST PRESSING YOU COULD USE YOUR JUDGMENT LIKE, YOU KNOW,
WHICH IS WHAT WE DID THE LAST TIME.
I THOUGHT WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ALREADY.
NO, EVERY, I THINK EVERYONE'S A LITTLE CONFUSED TO WHAT WE WERE DOING, BUT OKAY.
NOW WE KNOW, ESPECIALLY WHEN ONE DIDN'T KNOW THAT YOU WERE DOING THAT.
NOBODY SHOULD FEEL OBLIGATED TO USE ALL THEIR TIME.
AND HOW MUCH TIME ARE WE GIVING? UH, LET'S SAY THREE MINUTES, FIVE MINUTES IS A LOT.
WE'RE ADDING, YOU KNOW, I DON'T CARE AS LONG AS I KNOW IN ADVANCE.
ANY OBJECTIONS TO THREE MINUTES? THREE MINUTES IS FINE.
LET'S HAVE THAT THREE MINUTES, CHRIS.
I'LL CUT YOU OFF RIGHT AT THE THREE MINUTE MARK.
I KNOW, RIGHT? SO WE ARE, IS EVERYBODY OKAY WITH THE AGENDA? YES.
WE'RE OKAY WITH THE AGENDA? I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
SO WE HAVE ONE MORE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE A DU, RIGHT? BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE VOTING, WE'RE NOT VOTING TOMORROW.
BUT I, I, I, I, I DOUBT IF IT'S GOING TO BE, UM, CLOSED TOMORROW.
BECAUSE THE LAST TIME PEOPLE GOT NOTICE OF THIS WAS IN DECEMBER THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE A MEETING ON FEBRUARY 12TH.
I MEAN, THAT'S, IT'S LIKE, AND THEN THAT WAS THE LETTER, RIGHT? THAT WAS THE LETTER FROM THE COUNCIL OF GREENBERG.
SO, SO, SO, AND IF YOU'RE NOT CLOSING, THAT MEANS THE ONE ROUND OR SO EACH SPEAKER GETS FIVE MINUTES, RIGHT? RIGHT.
AND HOW, UM, IF, UH, IF THEY'RE GONNA SEND, UM, MR. SIMON'S STATEMENT, THANK YOU.
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RECORD.DO YOU HAVE A MOTION, PAUL? I'D LIKE TO, UH, MAKE A MOTION TO GO TO, INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS TO INTERVIEW CANDIDATE FOR CHAIR OF THE PLANNING BOARD, SEEK LEGAL ADVICE, UH, REGARDING PENDING, PROPOSED AND CURRENT LITIGATION.