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IN PROGRESS.

[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: HCancro@Greenburghny.com https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]

HI, WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.

AND BEFORE I WANNA ASK THE TOWN ATTORNEY FOR A LEGAL OPINION.

OKAY.

ON THE, WHETHER WE COULD HAVE THIS MEETING OR CANCEL IT.

UM, WE COULD HAVE THIS MEETING.

NO, I DON'T KNOW.

YOU DON'T KNOW THE REASON WHY.

OKAY.

I WAS OUTSIDE THE COUNTY OFFICE BUILDING TODAY AND, UM, I SAW THAT IT SAYS TODAY IS ANDREA REED DAY.

YES.

AND, UM, THAT MEANS IT'S A HOLIDAY , SO, SO WE SHOULD TRY TO MOVE IT ALONG QUICKLY SO WE CAN ALL CELEBRATE.

ALSO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST ASKING RIGHT OVER HERE.

SO, AND WASHINGTON'S BIRTHDAY, WE CLOSE THE BUILDING, SO WHY CAN'T WE CLOSE, UH, FOR THE MEETING TODAY? LOOKS TO HAVE SOME GREEN, WOULD YOU AGREE WITH ME, TOWN HUMOR? AGREE.

AGREE.

I THINK WE SHOULD SHUT, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE CONTRACTS FOR NEXT YEAR? LET'S, WE HAVE TWO.

WE HAVE, IT'S TWO.

TWO PEOPLE ARE SUPPORTING, RIGHT? YES.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A VOTE, SO, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

NEXT TIME.

, I TRIED, RIGHT? THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOT, RIGHT? YES.

THAT'S NICE.

YES.

IF YOU WANT TO CANCEL THE MEETING, THEN WE HAVE A MAJORITY.

HOW ABOUT WE GET STARTED? WE DO HAVE, WE, WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S IN THE .

WE DO HAVE, UM, A QUORUM.

HOWEVER, UM, GINA COUNCIL IS NOT WITH US.

COUNCILWOMAN COUNCIL, COUNCILWOMAN, GINA JACKSON, THANK YOU, IS NOT WITH US.

AND COUNCILMAN SHEEN IS IN A LOCATION THAT UNFORTUNATELY IS CREATING A PROBLEM FOR HIM TO GET ALONG.

SO HE MAY COME ON A LITTLE BIT LATER.

AND FOR THAT REASON, THE REASON WE POSTPONED THE CREATION OF SIDEWALK DISTRICT'S DISCUSSION LAST WEEK WAS BECAUSE HE COULDN'T BE HERE TO DISCUSS IT.

AND I, I WOULD ASK THAT WE POSTPONE YET AGAIN, BECAUSE NOW WE DON'T HAVE GITA, BUT WE DO HAVE DYLAN .

I'LL COME BACK.

SORRY, DYLAN, UNLESS YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THIS.

I, I, I DON'T, SO, RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE'VE ONLY BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS FOR ABOUT 30, 40, 50 YEARS.

YEAH.

YOU HAVE .

YEAH, I HAVE.

I HAVEN'T BEEN THINKING ABOUT IT THAT LONG, SO IT'S GONNA BE OKAY.

SO NOW, YES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO, UH, NEXT, UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH AGENDA REVIEW.

UM, I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THE LOCAL LAW, PUBLIC HEARING FOR A VEHICLES IN TRAFFIC, UM, HAS BEEN HELD OVER TO THE MARCH 12TH MEETING.

A PUBLIC NOTICE DID GO OUT THAT THE HEARING WOULD BEGIN TOMORROW.

HOWEVER, THAT LAW IS NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT FINALIZED AT THIS POINT.

SO INSTEAD OF RUSHING IT, DECIDED TO HOLD IT OVER, WE WILL PUBLICLY NOTICE IT AGAIN.

WHAT NUMBER IS THAT? SO THAT'S UNDER PUBLIC HEARINGS.

ITEM NUMBER THREE.

THANK YOU.

AND IT DOES SAY ON THE AGENDA, AND IT WAS POSTED THIS WAY IN BOLD, HELD OVER TO MARCH 12TH, 2025.

SO ANYONE WHO WAS SEARCHED YESTERDAY OR TODAY WILL SEE THAT IT'S HELD OVER.

JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE IT TOO, FOR ANYONE WHO MAY BE WATCHING.

THANK YOU.

HERE.

IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, THE MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR MORE, DAVID, I WAS AT, YOU KNOW, THE SHIVA YESTERDAY, AND I MENTIONED THAT THEY LIKED WHAT I WROTE, UH, ON THE TOWN WEBSITE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I HIGHLIGHTED MORE OF HIS ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS MAYOR AND TRUSTEE.

YES.

AND I'M WONDERING IF ANYBODY THAT SHE WANTS TO, THOSE NOT, YEAH.

THOSE ARE NOT COLLABORATE ON ON THAT BECAUSE THEY WANT TO, HOW ABOUT SHARE, SHARE THE MEETING.

YEAH.

OKAY.

THEY WANT TO SHARE THE LINK WITH RELATIVES.

ALRIGHT.

SO THEN IF YOU GIVE ME A FEW POINTS, WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT.

YEAH, IT WAS BASICALLY, IT'S ON THE WEBSITE, IT'S NOT YEAH, NO, I, I TOOK THAT FROM, I ACTUALLY AUGMENTED WHAT WE HAD.

OKAY.

SO YEAH, I, I'LL TELL ME, I'LL GET IT TO YOU SPECIFICALLY, WHICH THINGS YOU WANT TO ADD AND THAT YEAH, I WAS WORKING WITH GEORGE CALVE, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THAT.

HE WAS A VILLAGE ADMINISTRATOR.

HE, HE CONTRIBUTED A LOT OF INFORMATION ON THAT TOO.

MINE.

BUT IT'S LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, THE FLOOD CONTROL, UM, THAT WAS ALL DONE WHEN MOR DAVID WAS MM-HMM .

A TRUSTEE OR MAYOR, AND THAT WAS, THAT'S REALLY SIGNIFICANT.

HE DID LIKE AN AWFUL LOT.

NO, THAT WAS NOT IN THE OBITUARY THOUGH.

OH, YEAH.

OH, NO, I'M SAYING THAT'S WHAT I WROTE.

OKAY.

I'LL GET, I'LL GET IT TO YOU.

YEAH.

OKAY, GREAT.

OKAY, PERFECT.

UM, AND WE'RE GONNA DO A PROCLAMATION FOR, FOR THE FAMILY.

YEAH.

WE COULD DO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD TAKE, UH, BOTH WHAT YOU WRITE AND THEN, UM, WE'LL JUST MAKE YOUR PROCLAMATION, SEND IT TO THEM.

ONE FOR, FOR COIC CARE AS WELL,

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AND THE ACCESSORY DWELLING, UH, LAW BASICALLY, UM, WOULD PROVIDE THAT THE COMMISSIONER OF PLANNING, YOU KNOW, WOULD AT END OF THE YEAR GIVE US SORT OF LIKE A REPORT.

SO THAT'S INCLUDED IN THE, IN THE LAW, BECAUSE I, I'M SORT OF FIGURING IF IT WORKS, THAT'S GREAT.

IF IT, IF IT NEEDS TWEAKING.

UM, I SEE COMMISSIONER DUQUE AND ON, I THINK THAT'S A QUESTION FOR HIM TO RESPOND TO.

HELLO? GOOD EVENING.

UH, TOWN BOARD.

THIS IS GARY , COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.

UH, YES, I, THAT, THAT'S CONFIRMED.

UH, WE CAN DO THAT AS STAFF.

THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING TOMORROW NIGHT.

ULTIMATELY THE TOWN BOARD CLOSES THAT HEARING AND APPROVES AN A DU LAW WILL WORK THAT CONCEPT IN.

OKAY.

SO WE WOULD BE VOTING ON IT PROBABLY AT THE NEXT MEETING.

IS THAT WHAT YOUR GUESS IS? SO TOMORROW'S THE CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING TO CLOSE THAT HEARING, THEN? YES.

PRESUMABLY IT WOULD BE ON FOR THE 1ST OF MARCH MEETING.

OKAY, COMMISSIONER? YES.

HI.

UM, QUICK QUESTION FOR YOU ONLY BECAUSE I, UM, I RECALL IN THE NOTES, UH, WHERE, UH, DR. ALLEN HAD STATED THAT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 10,000 SQUARE FEET, WAS THAT EDITED OR WAS THAT, UM, TWEAKED TO INCLUDE, OR, OR WAS IT DECREASED OR, OR IT'S GONNA REMAIN THE SAME.

I JUST REMEMBER THAT STICKING OUT.

UM, WAS THERE, WAS THERE ANY CHANGE TO IT OR YOU'RE GONNA DISCUSS THAT, UM, DURING THAT HEARING? SO THAT'S A DECISION THAT WOULD COME FROM THE TOWN BOARD, WHETHER THEY WOULD LIKE THE LOCAL LAW TO CHANGE OR NOT.

UH, DR. ALLEN DID ASK FOR SOME STATISTICS, WHICH I PROVIDED HER.

UM, BUT ULTIMATELY THE LOCAL LAW HAS NOT CHANGED.

IT REMAINS WITH THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT MEMO SHE WAS SUGGESTING 7,500 AS THE, AND I WASN'T SURE WHAT, WHAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE YOU COMMISSIONER.

SURE.

AND IF I COULD, I, I, DURING AGENDA REVIEW, AS PART OF THE AGENDA REVIEW, UH, FOR CD ONE AND TWO, THIS WAS, UH, THERE'S ONE SUGGESTION THAT I WANTED TO MAKE TO THE RESOLUTION, UM, THAT, THAT IS POSTED.

SO I'M GONNA SHARE THAT WITH YOU.

AND JUST TO BACK UP, CD ONE AND CD TWO ARE COMPARABLE.

THEY'RE BOTH AWARDING DESIGN SURVEYING AND, AND PROJECTS, UH, CONSTRUCTION, I'M SORRY, DESIGN AND SURVEYING SERVICES, CIVIL ENGINEERING FOR THE TWO SIDEWALK TAP GRANTS THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG MOST RECENTLY WAS AWARDED.

AND THAT'S FOR OLD ARMY ROAD SIDEWALK AS WELL AS MILLWOOD ROAD SIDEWALK.

I CAN MAKE THIS A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

THE SUGGESTION THAT I'D LIKE TO ADD TO THE RESOLUTION THAT'S PRESENTLY POSTED CLARIFIES THAT THE COSTS THAT THE TOWN BOARD, IF YOU SO PROOF ARE AN 80 20 MIX.

SO WHAT YOU SEE HERE IN RED IS THE NEW LANGUAGE THAT I'M SUGGESTING WE ADD.

I KNOW THAT THAT'S SOMETHING, UH, COUNCILMAN SHANNON IN THE PAST HAS, HAS TO BE VERY CLEAR, EXCUSE ME, SOLUTION.

SO COMMISSIONER OLD ARMY ROAD IS APPROVING MARTIN AND LE JUDAS, UH, ENGINEERING FIRM FOR A COST OF $345,000 FOR I DONE IS SPECIFIED THAT 276,000 OF THAT, OR 80% IS FEDERAL GRANT AND 69,000, UH, DOLLARS.

69,000 EVEN IS 20% MATCH.

AND I DID THE SAME FOR CD TWO, WHICH IS TWO, WHICH IS NOEL WOOD ROAD.

THAT ONE IS NOT AS EXPENSIVE.

IT IS A, UH, 280,000 UH, DOLLARS, UM, COST BROKEN OUT SIMILARLY, 80 AND 20%.

SO THAT COMES DOWN TO 2 24 AND 56,000 RESPECTIVELY.

SO, UM, WITH YOUR, UH, AUTHORIZATION, I WOULD RE-UPLOAD THESE FIRST SOLUTIONS TO THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

SO CD ONE AND CD TWO READ EXACTLY THE SAME EXCEPT FOR THE NUMBER AT THE END.

I SEE THAT THAT ITSELF IS A TYPO.

UM, CD ONE IS OLD ARMY SIDEWALK.

THAT'S NOT SAYING.

OKAY.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY I DIDN'T HAVE MY COMPUTER OPEN AND I COULDN'T SEE WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, BUT YOU SENT THAT TO US.

OH, BY ANY CHANCE? UH, I DIDN'T SEND IT, BUT I CAN SHARE A SCREEN AGAIN.

UM, I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE IT.

SORRY.

UNLESS YOU REALLY IZE IT ON THE WEB.

IT'S SUPPOSED YEAH, I'LL LOOK ON THE WEB.

OKAY.

BUT I'M NOT SIGNED, BUT I'LL EMAIL IT TO THE BOARD NONETHELESS.

OKAY.

WITH THE HIGHLIGHT IN THERE.

THANK YOU.

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AND IS THE, OH, I SEE THAT, UM, COUNCILMAN SHEEN HAS JOINED AND HE MAY, IT MIGHT BE SPOTTY.

CAN YOU HEAR US, COUNCILMAN? I CAN HEAR YOU, BUT I CAN'T SPEAK ANGELA KNOW MY MOTHER-IN-LAW IS AND SHE'S HERE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

IT'S DEDICATION.

YEP.

SO THE CD CO THREE, THE LIBRARY BUDGET TRANSFER IS, THAT IS MONEY ALLOCATED FOR THEM, AND IT'S JUST TRANSFERRING IT INTO THE ACCOUNT FOR THEIR USE.

SO THAT WAS BUDGETED MONEY ALREADY.

AND IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT THE AGENDA PER SE, BUT JUST IN TERMS OF A MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THE PUBLIC AGAIN TO FREE, FEEL FREE TO USE YOUR FIVE MINUTES DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND FOR EACH OF THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT TO PLEASE IF YOU HAVE FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEYOND THAT, TO NOT CALL OUT AND ACT OUT OF ORDER OF ROBERT'S RULES OF ORDER.

AND TO INSTEAD, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CALL US UP OR SEND EMAILS WITH ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR SAVE THOSE ITEMS FOR THE NEXT DOWN BOARD MEETING.

COULD JUST, WHEN WE HAD THE DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING TODAY, UH, THE SUGGESTION WAS MADE JUST TO MAKE, CAN WE, CAN WE FINISH THE AGENDA REVIEW? AND WE, THIS IS THE AGENDA REVIEW COUNT ON FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

WHAT? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I'M JUST SUGGESTING OKAY.

THAT WE REWRITE THE PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE IT SAYS ADVANCED, UH, SIGN UP IS REQUIRED AND BASICALLY JUST SAY, UM, EVERYBODY COULD SPEAK FOR FIVE MINUTES.

THERE'LL BE NO INTERRUPTIONS BY ANY TOWN BOARD MEMBER, UH, OR QUESTIONS, UH, UNTIL, UM, ALL THE SPEAKERS, YOU KNOW, HAVE BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, FINISHED.

AND SO THEN MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS SAY PUBLIC COMMENTS.

AND THEN AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENTS, MAYBE HAVE ANOTHER LINE SAYING RESPONSE OR SOMETHING.

A RESPONSE AT THE CONCLUSION OF ALL THE THINGS, ANY BOARD MEMBER WOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO QUESTION.

SO WE'RE GOING BACK TO OLD RULES, BUT YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU RECALL THAT WAS IN EFFECT THAT THAT WAS IN EFFECT.

HOLD ON A SECOND.

BUT YOU KNOW, AS I SAID IN MY EMAIL SUPERVISOR, THAT PEOPLE DO GET UNDER, AND I'M NOT, I I AM NOT SINGLING YOU OUT.

ALTHOUGH IT, IT HAPPENS MORE OFTEN FOR YOU.

NO, I'M THE OFFENDER.

I PLEAD GUILTY.

YEAH.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO MAKE THE COMMITMENT TO STICK BY THIS CHANGE.

WELL, WELL, WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IF WE'RE VERY, VERY, VERY CLEAR OKAY.

ON THE AGENDA, NO PROBLEM.

UH, AND YOU KNOW, WE SORT OF REWRITE IT, THEN I SORT OF THINK THAT THEN, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL SPEAK AND AFTER EVERYBODY SPEAKS, IT'S FINE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE ANYBODY CAN SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT.

YEAH.

IT DOES GET FRUSTRATING BECAUSE IT DOES SOMETIMES MAY SEEM LIKE TO THE PUBLIC THAT I'M GIVING ADDITIONAL TIME TO PEOPLE.

RIGHT.

BUT I'M, I'M NOT, I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RULES EXACTLY AS WRITTEN.

SO RESPECTFULLY REQUEST ANYONE WATCHING TO PLEASE FOLLOW OUR AGENDA ITEM, OUR AGENDA RULES TOMORROW.

RIGHT.

SO WE COULD JUST REWRITE THIS.

RIGHT.

BUT THE, NOT, I GUESS FOR THE RECORD, I, I, I LIKE THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN NOW BECAUSE SOMEBODY MAY HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT FIVE MINUTE CONVERSATION BY JUST ASKING A SIMPLE QUESTION.

THE CLOCK KEEPS RUNNING.

WE ANSWER THAT SIMPLE QUESTION AND THEN THAT MAY CHANGE THE WHOLE THING.

OTHERWISE, THEY MAY SPEND THEIR FIVE MINUTES TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING TOTALLY IRRELEVANT THAT WE DIDN'T CLARIFY SOMETHING.

IT'S A, I I I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S WRONG WITH THE RULES WE HAVE.

WE JUST CAN'T INTERRUPT UNLESS WE'RE ASKED THE QUESTION.

WELL, OKAY.

BUT TO PUT IN A LINE SAYING THAT THERE'S AN ACTUALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE BOARD TO RESPOND, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A TERRIBLE THING TO, TO DO.

SO THAT THEY SEE IT IS PART OF IT WHERE IT IS THE LAST PART OF THE UNDERLINE SECTION, IF A SPEAKER INSISTS ON AN IMMEDIATE ANSWER, SHOULDN'T ANSWER BE PROVIDED, SHALL BE PART OF THE SPEAKER'S FIVE MINUTE ALLOCATION AND NOT BE INTERRUPTED.

NO, THAT'S NOT THE THING THAT I FEEL IS, THAT'S NOT WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I FEEL IS IMPORTANT.

CAN I SPEAK PLEASE? UM, THAT, THAT'S NOT THE PART THAT I MEANT.

UM, THERE ISN'T A LINE THAT SAYS THAT THE BOARD WILL RE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND.

SORRY, COULD

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YOU SAY THAT AGAIN? .

I, I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHAT I, I BELIEVE IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, SHOULD AN ANSWER BE PROVIDED PAR? NO, I JUST MEAN THAT AFTER ALL THIS, WHAT PAUL IS SAYING IS THAT AFTER ALL THE SPEAKERS HAVE DONE, ARE DONE SPEAKING, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT ONE OF US AS BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO ADDRESS, THAT IT'S THEN IN WRITING THAT WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

THAT'S ALL.

IT DOESN'T SAY THAT REALLY ANYWHERE.

RIGHT NOW, ALL I'M COMPLETELY MISSING, AND IF I, IF I MAY INTERRUPT, UM, THE, WHAT THE ISSUE IS IS IT'S ABOUT THE CLOCK.

AND WHEN THERE IS AN INTERRUPTION AND SOMEONE IS INSISTING THAT THE BOARD MEMBER ANSWERS, EVEN THOUGH OUR RULES SAY, DO NOT RESPOND MM-HMM .

THEY'RE WAITING THERE FOR A RESPONSE.

RIGHT.

SO WE, UM, WE, I, AND WHEN I SAY WE, MEANING WHEN THE BOARD GIVES THE CONSIDERATION OF GIVING A RESPONSE MM-HMM .

I AM NOT SUPPOSED TO STOP THE CLOCK BECAUSE THE, THE SPEAKER IS REQUESTING YES.

BUT THE RESPONSE GOES AGAINST AGAINST OUR RULES.

RIGHT.

THAT'S NOT THE PART THAT I'M REALLY, I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I DISAGREE, I DISAGREE.

I THINK, I DON'T KNOW HOW BETTER WE COULD WRITE IT, THAT IF SOMEBODY ASKS FOR AN ANSWER, THE CLOCK DOESN'T STOP.

THE CLOCK DOESN'T STOP.

IF SOMEBODY INTERRUPTS, THEN THAT'S A DIFFERENT STORY AND INTERRUPTS THE SPEAKER, THEN YOU'VE BEEN STOPPING THE CLOCK.

OUR RULES DON'T ACTUALLY SAY THAT, BUT, UH, YOU CAN STOP AT THE CLOCK.

I I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S UNDER, THAT'S BEING MISUNDERSTOOD WHEN IT SAYS IF A SPEAKER WANTS AN ANSWER, IT COULD BE A SIMPLE YES OR NO ANSWER TO IS SOMETHING BEING HELD OVER TODAY OR NOT? BUT WE CAN'T INTERRUPT TO SAY, BY THE WAY, THAT'S BEING HELD OVER BECAUSE, UM, IF WE, IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT PROVISION, UH, IF THEY ASK A QUESTION, WE CAN, IF WE WANT TO RESPOND.

I'M ACTUALLY NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SITUATION WHERE THEY ASK A QUESTION.

I'M TALKING ABOUT A SITUATION WHERE A, SOMEONE IN THE PUBLIC COMES UP, MAKES A COMMENT, SAYS WHATEVER, DOESN'T ASK A QUESTION, SITS DOWN, BUT THERE IS SOME CLARIFICATION WE MIGHT WANNA PROVIDE OR SOMETHING WE WANNA SAY.

AND THERE'S NOTHING HERE THAT SAYS WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

SO THAT'S DIFFERENT.

THAT'S SEPARATE.

THAT'S I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR IS A SENTENCE AT THE END THAT SAYS, THE TOWN BOARD REGARD THE RIGHT TO RESPOND TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT MAY, ANY STATEMENT THAT MAY BEEN MADE.

YES.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

YOU RIGHT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, PAUL? YEAH, BUT MY FEELING IS NO, PAUL, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? A LITTLE BIT .

BECAUSE, BECAUSE I BASICALLY FEEL THAT ONCE YOU MAKE ONE EXCEPTION, THEN BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW, IF ONCE SOMEBODY INTERRUPTS OR ANS ANSWERS ANYTHING, NO, YOU SHOULDN'T BE INTERRUPTED.

NO.

BUT ONCE SOMEBODY COMMENTS RIGHT AFTER SOMEBODY SPEAKS, THEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A GIVE AND TAKE IN BACK AND FORTH.

AND BASICALLY THEN THE RULES ARE REALLY NOT BEING FOLLOWED.

SO WHAT YOU MAY THINK IS APPROPRIATE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE INTERRUPTING, MAYBE EVERYBODY WILL BE YELLING AT ME WHEN, WHEN I'M DOING THE SAME THING, BECAUSE YOU MAY THINK THAT IT, YOU KNOW, I'M BASICALLY ABUSING IT.

SO I'M SAYING IF WE HAVE A POLICY THAT NOBODY COULD SAY ANYTHING UNTIL AFTER EVERYBODY SITS DOWN.

UM, AND SO WE HAD, IF THERE'S EIGHT SPEAKERS, WE HEAR ALL EIGHT SPEAKERS AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE EIGHT SPEAKERS, THEN ANYBODY ON THE BOARD COULD ANSWER.

I CAN SEE PROBLEMS WITH THAT.

SO SOMEONE GETS UP AND USES THEIR FIVE MINUTES AS A BULLY POLE, THAT WHICH HAS BEEN DONE FAIRLY RECENTLY TO ESPOUSE SOMETHING THAT IS TOTALLY UNTRUE.

AND THEN WE LET IT WAIT AND FESTER, AND PEOPLE LEAVE IN THAT INTERIM, THEN, THEN THEY ARE LEAVING WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT WHAT HAS BEEN SAID IS FACTUAL.

I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO, WE AS A BOARD HAVE TO EXERCISE DISCIPLINE, AND WE ASK THAT THE CITIZENS WHO COME TO BE HEARD, AND THEY HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO BE HEARD, ALSO EXERCISE RESTRAINT AND RESPECT FOR, FOR THE RULES.

AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS ALSO NOT ESPOUSING PROVOCATIVE INFORMATION THAT, UH, JUST FOR THAT, THAT WILL ELICIT A RESPONSE THAT CAN BE LENGTHY AND THEN IT EXTENDS THERE FIVE MINUTES TO 10 MINUTES.

SO I WOULD SAY, UM, THAT IF SOMEONE IS REQUESTING RESPONSE, THAT WE, WE CAN

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DO ONE, TWO THINGS, KEEP IT AS WE HAVE IT NOW, OR SHORTEN IT TO FOUR MINUTES.

IF THEY'RE GOING TO RE REQUEST A RESPONSE TO GIVE US THAT MINUTE TO RESPOND.

SO, YOU KNOW, MAKE THAT A FIXED TIME, THAT WOULD BE EASIER FOR THE CLOCK.

AND IT WOULD BE, UM, IT WOULD BE MORE SO YOU'RE SAYING ALL COMMENTS WOULD BE FOUR MINUTES WITH A ONE MINUTE RESPONSE? YEAH.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IF A RESPONSE IS IN ORDER.

WELL, IF YOU WANTED, IF YOU WANNA SIMPLIFY IT, I, I MEAN, I, I DON'T DISAGREE WITH FRANCIS REALLY.

I THINK WHAT WE DO IS, IS LIKE IT HAS BEEN ABUSED THOUGH.

IT REALLY HAS BEEN WHERE PEOPLE HA AS PER, UM, MR. ATTORNEY'S, JOE KO'S COMMENTS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE SHOUTED FROM THE AUDIENCE AND CONTINUED CONVERSATIONS EVEN AS THE MEETING PROCEEDS, WHICH IS TOTALLY DISRESPECTFUL OF NOT ONLY THE BOARD, BUT EVERYONE ELSE SITTING IN THE AUDIENCE WHO CAME HERE TO HEAR US LEGISLATE.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? ? SO , WHATEVER ANYBODY WANTS.

WELL, I THINK AND YOUR LINE, OKAY, WE CAN ADD THE LINE, BUT I THINK YOU WERE SORT OF, UH, SUPERVISED, CONFLATING TWO DIFFERENT SITUATIONS IN A WAY, RIGHT? THAT THERE'S THE SITUATION THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE THAT'S ABUSED AND THAT'S FRUSTRATING.

WE ALSO HAVE A DIFFERENT SITUATION AND THERE ARE TIMES WHERE YOU MIGHT SPEAK AFTER SOMEONE MAKES A COMMENT, RIGHT.

OR I MIGHT SPEAK OR WHAT BECAUSE WE FEEL IT HAS TO BE CORRECTED, ADDRESSED, WHATEVER.

SO I THINK IF WE DO, AS WE'RE SAYING, JUST PUT A LINE IN ABOUT THAT, THAT WILL HELP SOLVE THAT PROBLEM.

BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE DISCIPLINED ABOUT THE OTHER PROBLEM.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

I JUST, AND ASK THAT WE ALL ACT LIKE ADULTS RESPECT TO ANOTHER.

I DON'T, I JUST REALLY DON'T MIND HAVING THE INTERCHANGES WITH THE RESIDENTS.

I'VE ALWAYS DONE THAT.

YOU KNOW, I'VE NEVER SHUT UP, SHUT PEOPLE UP.

SO, AND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CRITICAL OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, I LET PEOPLE TALK AS MUCH AS I DO.

SO I WAS JUST REALLY TRYING TO RESPOND TO THE CRITICISMS OF ME AND TRYING TO TIGHTEN IT UP.

BUT IF, YOU KNOW, THE BOARD DOESN'T LIKE THE IDEA THAT I HAVE, THAT'S FINE WITH ME.

YEAH.

WELL, AS I SAID, WE'VE ALL BEEN GUILTY OF IT, BUT WE ALL HAVE TO SHOW SOME RESTRAINT.

OKAY, THAT'S FINE.

I WILL SEND PROPOSED LANGUAGE AROUND THAT ONE ADDED SENTENCE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANKS.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

YOU'LL NOTICE WHAT I REPEATEDLY SAID WHEN, YOU KNOW, UH, I THINK IT WAS AT THAT MEETING THAT WAS JUST, I, I SAID, ARE YOU ASKING ME A QUESTION? MM-HMM .

SO THAT WAS TRIGGERING LISA, THAT THEY'RE ASKING ME A QUESTION AND I'M NOT INTERRUPTING THEM BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

UH, I DON'T LIKE WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

I'D LEAVE THAT TO THE END.

BUT I THINK WE PROBABLY SHOULD MAKE THAT STATEMENT AS WELL AS TO ARE YOU ASKING A QUESTION? BECAUSE THEN THEY'LL KNOW THEIR TIME IS GONNA BE USED TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

UNDERSTOOD.

YEAH.

THANK YOU.

THAT'S A GOOD POINT.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? OKAY, HANG ON.

THE ONLY ONLY THING THAT I SEE IS THAT I HAVE TO, UM, MAKE A CHANGE IN THE PUBLIC HEARING IT.

UM, IT SAYS AFTER ADVANCE, UM, SET UP, IT SAYS, UH, LATE FURTHER DOWN IT SAYS PUBLIC COMMENT.

AND THAT REALLY SHOULD BE PUBLIC HEARINGS.

BUT I'LL, I'LL MAKE THAT CORRECTION AND SPELLING ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS MEMBER.

OH, WE HAVE CENTRAL PHYSICAL THERAPY ON AS WELL.

WE, I MEAN, THIS IS OUR, WHEN IS THIS? OH, THE PRESENTATIONS? YEAH.

YEAH.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN IN SEPTEMBER, BUT I COULDN'T DO IT.

OH, RIGHT.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? YEAH.

YEAH.

DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THAT ON? THAT'S WHY I WAS, IF WE DO IT IN ADVANCE OF DOING THAT IN THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH, IT'S CLEAR THAT THAT'S, WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT'S PART OF THE BLACK HISTORY MONTH OF CELEBRATION.

OKAY.

THE SAME THING WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS.

THAT'S THE WAY IT'S POSITIONED, THE WAY IT'S MM-HMM .

OKAY.

SO DO WE HAVE SOMETHING SET FOR THAT? DO WE HAVE, UM, I'M WORKING ON IT, BUT YOU KNOW, I ARE YOU SURE YOU'VE GOT A FEW? I KNOW GRADE EXACTLY.

SO ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO DO IT? ARE YOU SURE YOU WANT TO, UP UNTIL NEXT TIME? NO, WE DON'T HAVE A CHOICE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT TAKING PATIENTS TOMORROW NIGHT BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING TOO.

SO FRANCIS, IF YOU NEEDED AN ASSISTANCE, ANY ASSISTANCE WITH THAT, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

OKAY.

YEAH,

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WE'LL MAKE IT, WE'LL MAKE IT WORK.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER ITEMS? SO CLARIFICATION, THE LIAISON REPORTS, UM, WE ARE GOING TO HIGHLIGHT ONE.

I'M DOING ONE , ONE LIAISON SHIP TOMORROW NIGHT.

YES.

SHIP.

SHIP.

ALRIGHT.

HAVE YOU DECIDED WHO, WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO DIFFERENT TOMORROW? EACH, EACH ONE WILL ONLY DO ONE, CORRECT.

UNDERSTOOD.

I THOUGHT YOU HAD DECIDED ON A TIME LIMIT AND THEN EACH INDIVIDUAL I DEVOTED TIME COULD DETERMINE IF YOU WANNA SPEAK ABOUT ONE.

SO IT WOULD SAY THREE MINUTES.

WE DID, WE DID.

OH, WE DID.

THAT'S TRUE.

MM-HMM .

WE SAY THREE MINUTES, TWO MINUTES, THREE MINUTES.

THREE IS WHAT WAS DECIDED.

THREE MINUTES .

SO BETTER PREPARE YOUR SUPERVISOR.

THAT'S FINE.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

ACTUALLY, THERE'S SO MUCH GOING ON WITH THE PARKING AUTHORITY.

IT MIGHT BE WORTHWHILE, PAUL, BUT YOU TELL, YOU KNOW, COMPLAINING WHAT'S HAPPENING AS FAR AS RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, PARKING AND, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE COMPLAINTS WITH THE, UH, FROM THE STORE OWNERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

YEAH.

I'M, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MEETING ON, UM, MONDAY, UH, WITH, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, STORE OWNERS.

UM, I THINK I HAVE A MEETING WITH THE PARKING AUTHORITIES.

OH, YOU CAN GIVE THAT IN YOUR REPORT TOMORROW.

THAT'S YOUR REPORT? THAT'S YOUR REPORT.

OKAY.

ACTUALLY IT'S, UH, WEDNESDAY.

WEDNESDAY.

WAIT, YOU CAN TELL US TOMORROW NIGHT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

UM, CAN WE BACKTRACK FOR A MOMENT? GARRETT MENTIONED THAT HE HAS A COMMENT FROM ZOOM.

IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU WANTED SPEAK ABOUT? WELL, THAT WAS, THAT WAS I JUST WITH THE, UH, SIDEWALKS, SO I'M ALL SET.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

OKAY.

OKAY.

FRANCIS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT, WHETHER YOU ARE ON, BUT WE, WHAT WE DECIDED TO DO IS, UM, TALK ABOUT THE SIDEWALK DISTRICTS NEXT WEEK.

OKAY.

THAT, THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

OKAY.

NO PROBLEM.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, SUPERVISOR, CLOSE THIS OUT.

I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING PARTICULAR INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING PENDING PROPOSED AND CURRENT LITIGATION, INCLUDING, UH, FORECLOSURES.

SECOND.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR, AYE.

AYE.