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TARA TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION.TODAY IS, UH, MARCH 25TH, AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH, UH, A REQUEST FROM THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS LEASING, UH, CARS THROUGH ENTERPRISE.
UH, NO, WE'RE ONLY ALLOTTED 30 MINUTES FOR THIS PRESENTATION, SO I'LL BE BRIEF.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN WORKING ONE WAYS TO OPERATE MORE EFFICIENTLY AND SAFELY.
UH, ONE OF THE WAYS WE'VE COME UP WITH IS LEASING VEHICLES THROUGH, UM, ENTERPRISE'S LEASING PROGRAM.
UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS INCLUDING, UH, DPW, THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE, AND, UH, WE BELIEVE IT WILL RESULT IN SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS, UH, TO THE TOWN WHILE PROVIDING US WITH NEWER AND SAFER VEHICLES.
I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MICHAEL STEWART AND ALEXANDRA MEKA.
THEY'RE HERE FROM ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT AND, UM, THEY'RE GOING TO GIVE AN ABBREVIATED VERSION OF THE PRESENTATION THEY PREVIOUSLY DID.
SHOULD WE, UH, ASK THE CONTROLLER TO ALSO COME DOWN OVER HERE? SHE WAS PLANNING ON COMING, SO I'LL I'LL SEND HER A NOTE IF YOU GUYS JUST PULL YOUR MIC HER.
THANK YOU FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
I WILL, UH, IN EFFORTS OF TIME, JUST TRY TO CONSOLIDATE EVERYTHING, THE HARD WORK THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER OVER THE LAST SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.
UM, I'VE BEEN WITH ENTERPRISE NOW AS I'M PULLING THIS UP, UH, FOR 21 YEARS.
UM, WORKED WITH COUNTLESS OTHER, UH, COMPANIES, BOTH IN THE PRIVATE AND PUBLIC SECTOR, UM, AND REALLY FEEL STRONGLY THAT WE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO, UM, LEVERAGE EVERYTHING THAT WE DO ON THE ENTERPRISE SIDE TO, UH, HELP GREENBERG HIT THEIR GOALS, BOTH FINANCIALLY AND, UH, WITH THE SAFETY FEATURES AND ALL, ALL OF THAT.
SO, JUST A FEW QUICK REFERENCES THAT WE WORK WITH AROUND, UH, IN THE NEW YORK, UH, NEW JERSEY, CONNECTICUT AREA, AND IT'S OVER 150 GOVERNMENT CLIENTS THAT WE HAVE IN NEW YORK ALONE.
THAT'S OVER 10,000 VEHICLES UNDER MANAGEMENT.
SO IT IS A PROVEN SYSTEM, WHAT WE DO.
UM, AND JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE AGENDA, AGAIN, IN EFFORTS OF, UH, TIME.
I'M, I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE INDIVIDUAL SLIDE, BUT I DO WANNA GO OVER JUST AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE COULD PROVIDE, THE KEY OBJECTIVES THAT WE'VE IDENTIFIED AS A TEAM COLLECTIVELY, AND HOW WE CAN HELP, UH, THE TOWN GO THROUGH YOUR CURRENT FLEET PROFILE, THE CURRENT CONDITION THAT YOU'RE IN.
AND YOU ALL HAVE A, A HANDOUT HERE AS WELL SHOWING THAT CURRENT, UM, FLEET PROFILE THAT'S IN THERE, WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO IMPLEMENT A FLEET, UH, MANAGEMENT PROGRAM FROM A PROFESSIONAL FIRM LIKE OURS.
AND THEN FINALLY, UH, THE LOCAL TEAM THAT WOULD BE, THIS IS NOT JUST SOMETHING THAT WE ARE GONNA SET IT AND FORGET IT.
WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH YOU, UH, WITH REGARDS TO QPRS AND ANNUAL REVIEWS, UH, DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
YOU WILL HAVE A DEDICATED TEAM HERE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE CONTROLS ARE IN PLACE MOVING FORWARD AS WELL.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS ESSENTIALLY CRADLE TO GRAVE.
THIS DOES NOT MEAN BY ANY STRETCH THAT YOU HAVE TO GO ALL IN ON EVERY SINGLE SERVICE THAT WE HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, MAINTENANCE.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT FACILITY HERE THAT'S GONNA MAINTAIN ALL THE VEHICLES.
JUST 'CAUSE YOU GET THEM FROM US DOES NOT MEAN THAT YOU HAVE TO OUTSOURCE ANY TYPE OF MAINTENANCE TO US OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
WE, WE CAN, HOWEVER, PROVIDE SERVICES IN ANY OTHER AREA FROM ACQUISITION ALL THE WAY THROUGH DISPOSAL, UH, AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.
SO JUST KEEP THAT IN MIND AS WELL.
SOME OF THE OBJECTIVES THAT WE IDENTIFIED IN OUR, IN ALL OF OUR MEETINGS IS JUST LOWERING THE AVERAGE AGE OF YOUR FLEET.
CURRENTLY, THE FLEET IS PRETTY AGED, AND WE'LL GO OVER A LITTLE CHART THAT'LL, THAT'LL, UH, ILLUSTRATE THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UM, 36% OF THE CURRENT PD FLEET IS OVER 10 YEARS OLD, SO, UM, IT WAS PRETTY EYEOPENING TO SEE THAT AND, AND SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DEFINITELY PUT A PLAN IN PLACE TO HELP LOWER, TO HELP, UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COMMUNITY WITH, WITH THOSE PD VEHICLES.
UM, AND IT'S CURRENTLY ON A 13 YEAR CYCLE, MEANING THAT IT WOULD TAKE AT THE CURRENT ACQUISITION RATE, 13 YEARS TO REPLACE THOSE VEHICLES, WHICH, YOU KNOW, IF IT WASN'T FOR 2020 THREES YEAR WHERE YOU PUT 19 NEW VEHICLES IN THE PD FLEET, IT WOULD'VE BEEN MUCH WORSE THAN THAT.
SO, UH, JUST, JUST THROWING IT OUT THERE.
SO OTHER THAN REDUCING THE AVERAGE AGE, OBVIOUSLY COST IS GONNA BE TOP OF MIND HERE AS WELL.
WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE REDUCING YOUR TOTAL COST SPECIFICALLY IN THE OPERATING AREA.
IF WE CAN GET BRAND NEW VEHICLES IN, IN A MORE TIMELY FASHION AT THE PERFECT TIME, THAT IS WHEN IT'S WORTH THE MOST, WHERE WE CAN SELL IT AND TAKE THAT EQUITY AND PUT IT TOWARDS SOMETHING GOOD AS OPPOSED TO LETTING IT JUST APPRECIATE INTO NOTHING.
UH, AT THE SAME TIME, LOWERING YOUR MAINTENANCE AND FLEET SPEND.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WANT TO TRY TO DO.
AND IF WE ZOOM OUT A LITTLE BIT AND LOOK AT ENTERPRISE AS AN ORGANIZATION, ENTERPRISE FLEET MANAGEMENT, WE ARE THE SISTER COMPANY OF ENTERPRISE RENTA CAR.
AND SELFISHLY ENTERPRISE RENTA CAR HAS 2 MILLION VEHICLES OF THEIR OWN.
SO WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE THEY OPERATE EXTREMELY EFFICIENTLY, BOTH IN THE COST SAVINGS AND ADMINISTRATIVELY AS WELL, SELFISHLY FOR THEIR OWN FLEET, RIGHT? SO THAT'S WHAT WE CAN PROVIDE YOU THE NETWORK AND THE EXPERTISE OVER 67 YEARS OF DOING THIS TO HELP
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LEVERAGE ALL OF THOSE KEY, UH, YOU KNOW, ECONOMIES OF SCALE, SO TO SPEAK, TO LOWER ALL THOSE COSTS FOR YOU.SO IS THIS FOR A LEASING PROGRAM OR JUST FOR, OKAY.
AND CLAIRE, JUST ASK, UH, CONTROLLER, UM, IN TERMS OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET, ARE WE ABLE TO LEASE OR LEASE VEHICLES USING CAPITAL EXPENSES OR DOES IT HAVE TO BE PURCHASED? IT DOESN'T MATTER THE FINANCING SOURCE.
IT, IT COULD BE A LEASE OR IT COULD BE, UM, LONG-TERM BORROWING.
BOTH ARE CONSIDERED DEBT SERVICE ON THE BALANCE SHEET.
YEAH, AND THAT, AND THAT'S A GREAT POINT.
YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE TIMES WHERE YOU DO WANT TO PURCHASE VEHICLES.
THERE MIGHT BE TIMES WHERE YOU WANT TO FINANCE THEM OR BOND THEM OUT.
AND SIMILARLY TO THE LEASE, AND WHEN I SAY THE WORD LEASE, UM, I DON'T WANT ANYONE HERE TO THINK OF THAT DEALERSHIP STYLE, TRADITIONAL LEASE.
THAT'S WHAT WE ALL THINK ABOUT, ABOUT, RIGHT? YOU LEASE A CAR FOR YOURSELF, YOU'RE A GIVEN MILEAGE AND A TERM, AND IF YOU GO OUTTA BOUNDS, YOU HAVE CHARGES CENTS PER MILE, WHATEVER THE CASE IS.
UM, BUT EVERYBODY HERE LISTENING AND AT THE TABLE KNOWS A, A PD VEHICLE, UH, A PICKUP TRUCK, A DBW, THEY RUN VERY DIFFERENT LIVES THAN YOUR PERSONAL CAR THAT YOU'RE DRIVING TO AND FROM WORK.
UH, SO WHAT WE DID, UH, VERY LONG TIME AGO, WE CREATED THIS OPEN-END LEASE STRUCTURE OR THE MUNICIPAL LEASE.
THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE HAVE FOR ALL OF OUR GOVERNMENT, UH, CLIENTS THAT WE WORK WITH IN THE NON-PROFIT SECTOR IN THE, IN THE, IN THE MUNICIPAL SECTOR.
UM, AND I WILL JUMP TO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S GONNA BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, JUST WANTED TO GO OVER A LITTLE BIT, UH, ABOUT YOUR CURRENT PROFILE AND, AND WHERE WE STAND TODAY.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF WE LOOK AT A HANDOUT, I BELIEVE IS IN THERE, UM, YOU'LL SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE 36% OF YOUR VEHICLES OVER THAT 10 YEAR MARK, RIGHT? BUT THE AVERAGE ACQUISITIONS AREN'T KEEPING UP TO THAT FLEET SIZE.
WE'RE GONNA NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET YOU THE VEHICLES THAT YOU NEED BEFORE, UH, THOSE, THOSE MAINTENANCE EXPENSES AND, AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'RE RECOGNIZING TODAY ARE HAPPENING.
SO HERE'S A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE FUNDING AND HOW THAT LEASE WORKS.
AND THERE MIGHT BE SOME QUESTIONS.
SO, UM, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, TO THROW 'EM OUT.
UM, SOME OF THE OPTIONS ARE YOU COULD PAY CASH AS, AS WE JUST SAID, IF YOU DID THAT AND IT'S A $40,000 VEHICLE, YOU PAY IT YEAR ONE THERE GOES 40,000, RIGHT? YOU COULD FINANCE THAT.
LET'S SAY IT'S OVER FIVE YEARS AND EASY MATH SAYS IT'S JUST $8,000 PER YEAR.
BUT WHERE ENTERPRISE COMES IN IS BECAUSE WE OWN 2 MILLION, WE LEASE OUT A MILLION FOR OUR FLEET CLIENTS.
WE HAVE A REALLY GOOD PULSE OF WHAT THE VEHICLE RESALE MARKET IS AT SAID TIME, RIGHT? SO THE FIRST THING WE DID IN WORKING WITH EVERYBODY ON THE TEAM WAS IDENTIFY, WHEN'S THE RIGHT TIME TO REPLACE YOUR VEHICLES AT THREE YEARS? IS IT 18 YEARS? WHEN IS THAT RIGHT SPOT? THEN FROM THERE WE FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND THAT VEHICLE.
SO IF WE KNOW THAT VEHICLE X IS GOING TO SELL FOR A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT WITHIN A SLIM MARGIN, AGAIN, WE SELL SO MANY OF THESE, THEN Y EITHER PAY FOR THE WHOLE THING UPFRONT OR Y FINANCE THE WHOLE THING JUST TO GET MONEY BACK AT THE END.
IT'S ALMOST, UH, YOU KNOW, COUNTERINTUITIVE THERE.
THIS IS WHERE THE TERM LEASE COMES IN 'CAUSE YOU'RE PAYING FOR THE PORTION THAT YOU USE.
SO WHAT WE RECOMMEND IS, OKAY, LET'S IN EFFORTS TO PRESERVE CASH, 'CAUSE YOU NEED TO GET SO MANY MORE VEHICLES THAN THAN YOU, THAN YOU ARE TODAY.
LET'S LEAVE A CONSERVATIVE BALANCE ON THE BACK END, RIGHT? SO THINK OF IT AS A CONSERVATIVE BALLOON PAYMENT OR YOU KNOW, A RESIDUAL PAYMENT AT THE END.
SO YOU STILL KIND OF OWE THAT AT THE END, BUT WE KNOW YOU'RE IN A SAFE POSITION.
THE NEXT SLIDE WILL ILLUSTRATE THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE CLEAR, AND THEN I WILL PAUSE FOR ANY TYPE OF QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
'CAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS REALLY THE KEY TO MAKE THIS ALL HAPPEN.
THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS LIKE YOUR TRADITIONAL LEASES, ALL THAT GOOD STUFF.
AND A BIG POINT HERE TOO IS THE FLEXIBILITY OF OWNERSHIP, RIGHT? THERE'S ALWAYS AN OUT.
IF YOU SAY, HEY, I DON'T WANNA DO THIS ANYMORE.
IT DIDN'T, IT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT.
YOU, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER, UH, YOU COULD JUST PAY OFF THAT VEHICLE AT WHATEVER TIME YOU WANT AND THEN JUST TAKE IT AND DO WHAT YOU WISH.
I, I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR KIMLER.
UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT NOW, BUT LET'S SAY WE BUY, BUY A VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, TODAY AND WE'RE, WE'RE BONDING.
I'M WONDERING WHAT THE ANNUAL COST TO THE TAXPAYERS WOULD BE, UM, FOR THAT, FOR THAT VEHICLE.
IF WE COULD COMPARE THE LEASING BECAUSE WE'RE, WHEN WE'RE BONDING, WE'RE NOT PAYING OFF THE BONDS AND, YOU KNOW, IN ONE YEAR.
DO YOU FOLLOW WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M SAYING? YES, BUT I, I WOULD HAVE TO RUN THAT THROUGH AN AMORTIZATION SCHEDULE, RIGHT? AND THE WAY THE BONDING WORKS, THE ASSETS ARE ALL TIED TOGETHER BECAUSE IT GIVES US THE CAPABILITY TO GET A REDUCED RATE.
AND ALSO THERE'S A WEIGHTED AVERAGE DEPENDING ON THE LIFE OF EACH ASSET.
SO IT WOULDN'T BE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULDN'T BE SOMETHING THAT I COULD COMPARE RIGHT HERE AT THE TABLE.
WOULD YOU THINK, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE PROBABLY SHOULD LOOK AT WHEN WE'RE MAKING THE DECISION? YES, OF COURSE.
WE CAN DO A COMPARISON LOOK AT THE LEASE PAYABLE
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COMPARED TO THE BOND PAYABLE AND THE AMORTIZATION OF BOTH AND ANY, UM, ADDITIONAL FEES AND COSTS.HAVE YOU DONE THAT FOR BOTH TYPES OF BORROWING? YEAH.
WHAT WHAT WE HAVE DONE ALSO, WHICH WHICH I'LL SHARE IS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE HELP OF EVERYBODY ON YOUR TEAM, WE'VE, WE CREATED A BASELINE OF WHAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY DOING.
NOW EVERY YEAR IS DIFFERENT, RIGHT? SOME YEARS YOU DID A LOT, SOME YEARS YOU DID ZERO.
UH, BUT WE CREATED A BASELINE OR A BENCHMARK OF WHAT YOU HISTORICALLY HAVE DONE, WHAT IT COSTS FROM A CAPITAL SIDE OF THINGS, FROM MAINTENANCE FUEL, UH, OVERALL RIGHT? TO, TO CREATE A QUOTE UNQUOTE FLEET BUDGET.
RIGHT? THAT'S YOUR AVERAGE OF WHAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING FROM THERE, WE ACTUALLY PROJECTED OUT 10 YEARS, SO ANYBODY CAN SAVE MONEY IF YOU LEASE VEHICLE YEAR ONE, RIGHT? BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE PAYMENT STARTS STACKING UP ON TOP OF EACH OTHER AND HOW DOES THIS ALL LOOK? SO WE ACTUALLY PROJECTED OUT FIVE AND THEN A 10 YEAR LOOK TO SEE, OKAY, ONCE YOU ARE FULLY, UM, THROUGH ATTRITION, YOU'RE FULLY ON THE ENTERPRISE PROGRAM, SO TO SPEAK, AND YOU HAVE EVERYTHING LEASED, WHAT DOES THAT NOW LOOK LIKE? AND WHAT YOU'LL FIND, AND, YOU KNOW, BEARING THE LEAD HERE, YOU, YOUR, YOUR PAYMENTS FOR VEHICLES WILL GO UP.
OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE PAYING, BUT THAT'S THE GOOD PART.
THE, ALL THE OTHER OPERATING EXPENSES, MAINTENANCE AND FUEL ARE GONNA COME WAY DOWN.
AND WHEN YOU NET EVERYTHING OUT, LEVERAGING OUR RESALE CHANNELS AND THE WAY THAT WE CAN HELP MANAGE THIS FLEET MORE PROACTIVELY, YOU'RE GONNA SEE A COST SAVINGS.
SO I WILL SHARE THAT WITH YOU, UH, IN JUST A FEW SLIDES HERE.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN, BECAUSE IT WAS GOING PRETTY FAST AND I WAS CATCHING UP
UM, SO YOU, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU, YOU WERE CONSERVATIVE IN YOUR ESTIMATES THAT YOU GAVE, UM, FIVE YEARS OF PAYMENTS AT 5,000 EACH, $25,000 FOR A $40,000 VEHICLE WITH THE PAYMENT INFO AT THE BACK END, YOU SAID, BUT THEN YOU ARE ALSO RESELLING THE CAR.
SO THAT RESALE WILL ALSO COME OFF THE BACK END SO THAT WE ARE NOT PAYING THE FULL VALUE IF WE BOUGHT THE CAR OUT OUTRIGHT OR THE TRUCK OUTRIGHT.
YOU'RE SNEAKING ON, YOU ALREADY READ THIS PRESENTATION, DIDN'T YOU?
UH, AND THIS HOPEFULLY WILL CLEAR IT UP.
IF NOT, PLEASE ASK ME ANOTHER QUESTION.
CAN I, CAN I JUST ADD MY QUESTION? 'CAUSE I THINK IT KIND OF TIES INTO EVERYTHING AND I WROTE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS DOWN, SO IT MAY BE THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO ARE YOU SAYING WHEN THE LEASE IS UP, WE HAVE THE OPTION TO BUY THEM? YES.
SO IF WE DON'T WANT TO BUY THEM, THEN WE JUST RETURN THEM BACK.
SO THEN THE CONCERN I HAVE CHIEF GENTLEMEN, IF, IF WE ARE BUYING THESE FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY HAVE TO BE OUTFITTED FOR, FOR WHAT YOU NEEDED FOR, ARE WE THINKING THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE JUST GONNA BUY THE CARS? I JUST, IT'S BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THAT IF, STOP ME IF I RIGHT.
GO TOO FAR, BUT IT'S BEEN TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WE'RE GONNA BE OUTFITTING SOME OF THE VEHICLES, A LOT OF THE VEHICLES MM-HMM
WE CAN KEEP THE VEHICLE, WE CAN REMOVE THE WAY, YOU KNOW, THE, THE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS OUTFITTED MM-HMM
AND STILL, YOU KNOW, GAIN THE BENEFIT OF WHATEVER VALUE REMAINS TO THE VEHICLE.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT HAVING TO OUTFIT IT AND REMOVE THE EQUIPMENT DOESN'T INTERFERE WITH THIS PROCESS.
AND, AND CAN I JUST EDITORIALIZE A LITTLE BIT HERE JUST FOR, FOR YOU, GINA? UM, NO, I, I WAS CLEAR MADE, MADE THE PRESENTATION.
I JUST WANNA FINISH JUST ONE LAST THING OF WHAT IT'S LIKE TO OUTFIT A CAR.
AND YOU MIGHT WANNA LOOK AT THAT DURING, UH, WORK, UH, UH, A MEETING YOU SHOWED A VIDEO CAN PUT THE VIDEO WHAT IT MEANS.
BUT IF YOU PURCHASE, I, SO LET, SO LET, SO THEN, SO THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAVE, SO ARE WE SAYING THAT THESE CARS THAT WE'RE GETTING ARE GOING TO BE BRAND NEW CARS? YES.
THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO, OKAY.
I I DIDN'T HEAR WHAT EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID.
THAT'S WHAT I, BUT IF THE GOAL IS TO EVENTUALLY PURCHASE THE CAR, YOU KNOW, CAR, SO THAT'S AN OPTION.
PURCHASING A CAR THAT'S LEASED IS MORE EXPENSIVE THAN PURCHASING YOUR CAR.
THAT'S NOT LEASED, ISN'T IT? THE GOAL IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER DECISIONS ARE MADE IN FUTURE IS THE BEST DECISION FOR THE TOWN.
IF THAT IS BUYING IT OUT, IF THAT IS PAYING IT OFF OVER THE NEXT THREE, FIVE YEARS AND UNTIL YOU EVENTUALLY OWN IT, IF IT IS TO REPLACE IT WHEN IT SELLS FOR 25,000 ON THE MARKET AND WE COULD BRING THAT BACK INTO THE TOWN TO HELP FUND THE SUBSEQUENT REPLACEMENT VEHICLE.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE MONITORING THIS FOR YOU AS YOUR ADVISOR, SO TO SPEAK, YOUR OUTSIDE CONSULTANT, TO LOOK AT THE FLEET HEALTH OVERALL AS IT AGES TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER DECISIONS YOU MAKE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S YOUR DECISION.
BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WITH ALL THE DATA POINTS WE HAVE IN MONITORING THIS FLEET, YOU ARE EITHER GOING TO DO ONE OF THOSE THREE THINGS THAT'S BEST SUITED FOR THE TOWN.
SO SOMETHING THAT THE CHIEF REFERENCED, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER ONE, AND THERE'S A QUESTION TOO SOMEWHERE IN THERE WHICH I'LL GET TO IS THE COST OF OUTFITTING THE CAR AND THEN THE COST OF
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BRINGING IT BACK TO ITS PRIOR STATE.THE QUESTION IS, WHAT PERCENTAGE OF THE FLEET NEEDS ALL THE OUTFITTING, SUCH AS THE VIDEO THAT COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON SHOWED OF THE AMAZING WORK THAT YOU DO TO OUTFIT A POLICE CAR FOR A PATROL CAR? AND I DON'T WANNA BE LOCKED INTO A NUMBER, WHICH IS WHY I'M GLAD THE CAPTAIN HERE
BUT, UM, I, I THINK WE'LL LET HIM CONTINUE BECAUSE IT, IT'S, IT'S COMING A GREAT QUESTION.
YOU'RE ON IT, YOU'RE ON THE, THIS IS IT.
BUT YES, ALL OF THOSE FACTORS ARE CONSIDERED INTO THE MODELING.
WE CONSIDERED THE COST FOR UPFITTING ON YOUR PURSUIT VEHICLES AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT.
AND EVERY SINGLE REPLACEMENT WE FACTORED IN BRAND NEW EQUIPMENT WHEN WE KNOW IF IT'S DECIDED THAT YOU NEED TO REPLACE A VEHICLE IN THREE YEARS, RADIOS CAN BE TRANSFERRED OVER.
A CERTAIN PIECE OF EQUIPMENT CAN BE REPURPOSED TO THE NEW VEHICLE, WHICH WOULD BRING THAT COST DOWN.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT BRAND NEW STUFF INTO THE VEHICLE AGAIN.
SO THAT IS ALL FACTORED IN HERE.
UH, AND AGAIN, RETURNING TO THE STATE THAT IT, IT'S NOT THAT TYPE OF LEASE, YOU RETURN IT TO US, WE GO TO MARKET AND SELL IT FOR TOP DOLLAR AND BRING THAT BACK TO YOU SO YOU COULD RETURN IT HOW YOU WOULD, YOU DON'T HAVE TO REDO ANYTHING ON THE VEHICLE.
SO LEMME JUST MAKE SURE I HEARD THAT CORRECTLY.
SO WE HAVE, WE OUTFIT YOU GUYS CARS.
SO WHEN WE TURN IT BACK AND SAY WE DON'T WANT TO KEEP CONTINUE WITH THE LEASE, SO WE DON'T WANNA BUY THE CAR, ARE YOU SAYING THE CAR THAT'S OUTFITTED TO TO, FOR THEIR USAGE? THEY CAN JUST GIVE IT BACK TO YOU LIKE THAT? WE CAN TAKE THAT VEHICLE, TAKE THE EQUIPMENT OFF OF IT TO PUT ON A DIFFERENT CAR THAT WE'RE REPLACING THE ONE WE'RE GIVING BACK.
BUT WHAT THEY DO, PART OF THEIR PROGRAM IS IF WE'RE GOING TO SELL A CAR BACK, SO TO SPEAK, THEY HAVE US DO THAT WITH THE VEHICLES WHEN IT IS OPTIMUM, WHEN THE RESALE VALUE FOR THAT VEHICLE IS HIGHEST.
SO THEY MAY SAY, HEY LOOK, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP THE 2020 FOURS, BUT THE 2020 THREES NOW IS A GOOD TIME TO GIVE THEM BACK BECAUSE WE CAN GET TOP DOLLAR FOR THEM AND ROLL THAT INTO YOUR NEXT AND THEN WE, AND THEN WE GET THE DIFFERENCE.
YEAH, BUT WHEN YOU SAY, I'M SORRY.
AND AGAIN, WE SHOULD PROBABLY LISTEN TO THE REST OF THE THINGS.
WE STILL EXCITED? WE WANNA, WE WANNA HEAR MORE.
UM, THE NEXT SLIDE HERE WILL SHOW HOW THAT LEASE WORKS.
IT'LL PROBABLY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS OF RESALE AND WHAT HAPPENS AT THE END AND ALL THAT STUFF.
SO, UM, THE WAY THAT I CREATED THIS SLIDE IS I COMPARED IT TO A TRADITIONAL FINANCE BECAUSE THAT'S REALLY MORE CLOSE TO WHAT IT'S ALIGNED TO.
IT'S NOT REALLY ALIGNED TO THAT DEALERSHIP STYLE LEASE.
IT IS CLOSELY RELATED TO A FINANCE.
SO IN YOUR TRADITIONAL FINANCE, IF YOU HAVE A $50,000 VEHICLE AND YOU FINANCE IT OVER FOUR YEARS, I USE THAT JUST AS AN EXAMPLE IN THIS, IN THIS SCENARIO, 50,000 DIVIDED BY 48 MONTHS IS 10 42.
SO THAT WOULD BE YOUR MONTHLY PAYMENT IF YOU WERE TO FINANCE THAT VEHICLE TO ZERO OVER 48 MONTHS.
BUT AGAIN, WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE ABOUT ENTERPRISE SELLING ALL THESE VEHICLES, WE KNOW HOW MUCH IT'LL BE WORTH.
IF WE KNOW THAT AT 48 MONTHS THAT VEHICLE WILL SELL FOR 22,000, FOR EXAMPLE, IN THAT CASE, WELL SINCE YOU NEED TO PUT A LOT MORE VEHICLES IN, NOW LET'S PRESERVE SOME OF THAT CASH POTENTIALLY.
SO LET'S SAY WE LEAVE IT ON THE BOOKS FOR 10,000, MEANING THERE'S STILL 10,000 OWED TO US AT 48 MONTHS, BUT WE KNOW IT'S GONNA SELL FOR 22.
ALL ALONG THE WAY, WE'RE MONITORING, MAKING SURE MARKET CONDITIONS AREN'T GOING CRAZY.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT THINGS ARE TRENDING THE RIGHT WAY THAT WE FEEL.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, AT THAT SITUATION, IF IT'S A $50,000 VEHICLE AND YOU LEAVE 10,000 ON THE BOOKS, NOW YOU'RE ONLY FINANCING 40.
YOU'RE NOT FINANCING 50,000 ANYMORE.
SO IN, IN THE TOTAL CAPITAL OUTLAY, THE 50,000, IS THERE AN ADMINISTRATION FEE? I MEAN, WHERE ARE YOUR FEES? YEAH, WE MAKE OUR MONEY IN THE PAYMENT OF THE LEASE.
SO THERE'S THREE COMPONENTS OF A LEASE.
THERE'S THE DEPRECIATION, WHICH IS JUST PAYING THE VEHICLE DOWN.
THEN THERE'S YOUR INTEREST AND MANAGEMENT FEE.
OUR MANAGEMENT FEE IS IN THERE.
AND WHERE DO WE SEE THAT ITEMIZED OUT ON AN ACTUAL QUOTE? SO EACH VEHICLE THAT YOU WOULD GET HAS AN INDIVIDUAL QUOTE THAT WOULD LIST OUT VERY TRANSPARENT.
WELL, POLICE VEHICLES GET A LOT OF WEAR AND TEAR.
UM, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'VE WORKED WITH MUNICIPALITIES, UM, HERE IN WESTCHESTER.
SO WE CAN YOU NAME, CAN YOU NAME OF COURSE.
UM, I COULD SAY I AT THE RISK OF, UM, OH, I HAD A COUPLE HERE BEFORE I FORGET WHO GAVE US THE ABILITY TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA JUST START SAYING NAMES FOR THE CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT FOR NEW ROCHELLE.
THAT BUSES, UH, THOSE ARE MOSTLY VANS.
SO WHETHER IT BE PASSENGER VANS OR CARGO VANS THAT ARE UPFIT WITH, YOU KNOW, SHELVING SYSTEMS, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
ARE ANY OF THESE POLICE DEPARTMENTS? UM, I KNOW SUFFOLK, WE DO THEIR POLICE.
SUFFOLK COUNTY OUT IN LONG ISLAND.
IT'S A, IT'S A VERY LARGE FLEET.
UM, IT'S A LARGE, LARGE, UH, I BELIEVE COUNTY,
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I HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE FLEET PROFILE FOR ONE ORANGE, BUT I, WE HAVE ORANGE, THOUSANDS OF ORANGE SHERIFF'S, ORANGE COUNTY SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.YEAH, BUT THEY'RE, WELL, THEY HAVE MORE DISTANCES, BUT THEY'RE LESS POPULATED.
SO FOR THE PURSUIT VEHICLES, LIKE THE MARKED POLICE CARS THAT ARE ON THE ROAD 24 HOURS A DAY, UH, THE LEASE TERM FOR THOSE, WE WOULD LOOK CLOSER TO THREE YEARS.
AND FOR THE, THE $10,000, THE, THE PART WE DIDN'T GET TO IS WHEN YOU TURN THAT CAR BACK IN, IF IT SELLS FOR 22, THE DIFFERENCE THAT $12,000 IS GONNA ROLL INTO NEXT YEAR'S LEASE PAYMENT FOR THAT VEHICLE.
SO IT'S COMING RIGHT OFF THE TOP.
MY QUESTION CAME FROM THE FACT THAT, WHICH IS WHY I ASKED IF THEY'VE DEALT WITH POLICE DEPARTMENTS, THE WEAR AND TEAR OF POLICE CARS.
AND WOULD THAT GET THE 22,000, IS THAT FACTORED IN? THAT WOULD BE FACTOR IN THE DEPRECIATION OF A VEHICLE THAT'S GONNA BE DRIVEN POTENTIALLY 20 HOURS.
EXAMPLE OF HOW THE LEASE WORKS.
THIS IS NOT SPECIFIC TO YOUR PD VEHICLE.
SO WITH THE, UM, DEPRECIATION, ARE YOU USING A DOUBLE DECLINING BECAUSE OF THE THREE YEAR OR STRAIGHT LINE? STRAIGHT LINE, STRAIGHT LINE DEPRECIATION? YEP.
AND YOU'RE NOT LIMITING IT ONLY TO, UH, POLICE VEHICLES.
IF WE HAVE OTHER VEHICLES IN OUR FLEET, WE COULD DO THE SAME THING.
EVERY VEHICLE TRUCKS, WE DO EVERYTHING.
SO SIX 50 DUMP BODIES, UH, WE, WE DO THOSE.
I MEAN, FOR ME, IF WE COULD PROVE THAT WE'RE GONNA SAVE MONEY, THEN IT'S LIKE REALLY A NO BRAINER.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO ANALYZE, YOU KNOW, JUST DO THE FINANCIAL COMPARISONS.
UH, I SAW IN YOUR, UH, HANDOUT THAT, UH, COMMUNITY IN PENNSYLVANIA SAVED 90,000, 95,000.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE COULD SAVE ANYTHING, IT'S WORTH IT.
AND JUST REALLY QUICKLY, I SEE COMMISSIONER FA IS IN THE, IN THE AUDIENCE HERE ARE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT ALSO THIS PROGRAM COULD WORK FOR YOU AS WELL FOR YOUR FLEET OF CARS? AND PLEASE, IF YOU'RE GONNA TALK, PLEASE COME ON.
YOU KNOW THE RULES YOU PASS THAT YOU CAN JUST TALK.
SO JUST 'CAUSE WE WANNA SEE WHAT BENEFIT WE CAN HAVE ACROSS THE BOARD, I THINK.
AND WHAT YOU GOTTA REMEMBER ABOUT THE POLICE CARS, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LIST I HAD UP THERE, THE AMOUNT OF TRANSMISSIONS, ENGINES AND WORK WE'VE HAD TO PUT INTO, AND YOU DON'T SEE THAT IN THE CAPITOL THAT COMES OUTTA THE OPERATING.
SO WE HAVE THREE LINES IN WHICH WE REPAIR VEHICLES, IT'S EXTENSIVE.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CARS ARE BEAT UP, THEY'RE ALWAYS ON, THEY'RE ALWAYS RUNNING 24 7.
AND THAT THERE IS A LOT OF MAINTENANCE THAT GOES INTO THESE WITH THIS FLEET THAT WE'D BE GETTING, WE'D STILL BE DOING THE DAY-TO-DAY MAINTENANCE, TIRES, OILS, ANY MINOR REPAIRS, BUT YOU'D BE SAVING MONEY ON THESE VERY LARGE EXPENDITURES WHEN THESE, AND IF YOU LOOK AT THERE 2014, YOU GOT 18 VEHICLES THAT AGE, YOU GOT 10 THAT ARE 2015.
AND I WILL GUARANTEE AND NO FAULT TO THE POLICE, IT'S JUST WHAT THEY DO.
THESE VEHICLES ARE VERY HEAVY ON WEAR AND TEAR.
UH, IN TERMS OF, UM, THE BIDDING PROCESS, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE DO THE CAPITAL BUDGETS, WE HAVE TO GO OUT FOR BID AND YOU KNOW, HOW LITTLE LEASE SITUATION, YOU KNOW, THAT'S AN INTERESTING QUESTION.
SO IT'S NOT THE TECHNICAL PURCHASE OF GOODS, UM, FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY.
SO, UM, I I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD FOLLOW THE STANDARD PROCUREMENT POLICY, BUT I CAN TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THAT IF WE'RE SHORT ON TIME.
I THINK, UM, IF WE'RE SHORT ON TIME, IT WOULD BENEFIT THE BOARD TO LET THEM FINISH THE PRESENTATION.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY HAD THAT DISCUSSION WITH MIKE AND HE'S GONNA CONTINUE.
UM,
SO WE HAVE BEEN AWARDED THE SOURCE, WELL CONTRACT FOR THE, UH, SEC THIRD RENEWAL FIVE PLUS YEARS.
UM, SO THAT'S PART OF THAT DUE DILIGENCE PROCESS WHERE YOU COULD DEFINITELY PIGGYBACK AND THAT IS THE MOST AGGRESSIVE PRICING THAT WE HAVE.
UH, SO YOU'D BE PIGGYBACKING OFF OF THAT PRICING AS WELL.
UM, HERE'S THE, WHAT'S THE SOURCE? WELL, AGAIN, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT? BIDDING? UH, IT'S A COOPERATIVE BIDDING.
SO THEY'VE DONE ALL THE BIDDING CAN PIGGYBACK ONTO THEIR CONTRACT AND DON'T HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID OURSELVES.
WELL, WE, WE PURCHASED FROM THEM FOR A NUMBER OF ITEMS. YES.
IS THAT, IS THAT A STATE AGENT? THAT'S NOT A STATE? THAT'S NOT, THAT'S NOT THROUGH THE STATE WHO NO, THAT'S JUST A NATIONAL, NATIONAL COOPERATIVE PURCHASING.
SO, SO THEY BASICALLY GO OUT AND SAY WE WANT TO DO A, UM, WE WANT AWARD, A CONTRACT FOR FLEET MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO BID FOR THIS.
WE KIND OF GO THROUGH THE RFP FOR THAT AND, AND WE'VE BEEN AWARDED THAT AS WELL FOR FLEET MANAGEMENT SERVICES.
SO THAT ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING.
SO, UM, YEAH, AGGRESSIVE PRICING.
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AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS GOES, I KNOW WE HAVE, UH, VERY LITTLE TIME LEFT, BUT, UM, I'LL, I'LL GO THROUGH THIS AND AGAIN, WELCOMING ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.BUT THIS YELLOW BAR ON THE TOP, THIS IS THAT BENCHMARK I WAS TALKING ABOUT.
SO WE TOOK ALL THE DATA AND ALL THE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR THE LAST, UH, BETTER HALF OF A YEAR.
UM, AND WE PUT IT DOWN, AND CURRENTLY THERE WAS 67 VEHICLES THAT WOULD PROBABLY MAKE SENSE FOR THIS ANALYSIS.
OUT OF THE, THE ENTIRETY OF THE PD FLEET, THEY, YOU GUYS WERE GETTING ABOUT SIX VEHICLES A YEAR, SO YOU WEREN'T LEASING ANY, YOUR PURCHASE BUDGET FOR THOSE SIX IS $365,000.
YOU HAD NO LEASING PAYMENTS THERE.
AND WHEN YOU WOULD GET THOSE SIX VEHICLES, YOU WOULD HAVE TO AUCTION OFF OBVIOUSLY THE SIX THAT YOU WERE REPLACING, WHICH WOULD BRING YOU BACK ABOUT $20,000.
THAT WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE GENEROUS, BUT AGAIN, WE WOULD RATHER STAY CONSERVATIVE ON THIS END.
UM, MAINTENANCE, UH, GOING OFF OF THE DATA THAT WE GOT, WHICH WAS $435 PER VEHICLE PER MONTH IN MAINTENANCE IS WHAT YOU WERE, UM, CHARGED FOR FOR THAT, UH, HISTORICALLY WAS $350,000 IN MAINTENANCE SPENDING 119,000 IN FUEL FOR A OVERALL BUDGET OF $814,000.
SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BENCHMARK WHERE WE STARTED OUR ANALYSIS SAYING, IS THIS GONNA MAKE SENSE TO PROCEED WITH FURTHER CONVERSATION OR ARE YOU GUYS DOING A GREAT JOB? YEAH.
UM, YEAR ONE, WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION WOULD WOULD BE, UH, AND THIS IS, WE MODELED THIS OUT SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS.
10 VEHICLES A YEAR, 27 THE FIRST YEAR, RIGHT? SO THIS IS JUST SHOWING THAT 10 VEHICLES IN YEAR ONE TO SLOW INTO THE, INTO THE PROGRAM, YOU WOULD GET 10 VEHICLES.
SO YOU STILL OWN 57, BUT NOW YOU'RE LEASING 10, YOU DIDN'T PURCHASE ANY.
SO THAT $365,000 NUMBER IS NOW ZERO, BUT YOUR LEASE PAYMENTS IS 172.
AND THAT'S CONSIDERING ALL OF THE AFTERMARKET, BRAND NEW VEHICLES, BRAND NEW UPFIT WITH THE POLICE PACKAGES AND ALL THAT.
SINCE WE'RE PUTTING 10 IN, WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING FOR YOU A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN EQUITY.
RIGHT? SO THAT'S GONNA COME BACK TO BE ROLLED INTO THE PROGRAM TO HELP FUND THE PROGRAM.
YOUR MAINTENANCE IS GONNA DROP $40,000 BECAUSE AGAIN, 10 OLDER VEHICLES ARE OUT 10 BRAND NEW IN WHO ONLY NEED MAYBE SOME OIL CHANGES.
UH, YOUR FUEL IS GONNA GET BETTER BECAUSE AGAIN, 2026 VEHICLES ARE WAY BETTER ON FUEL THAN 2014.
UH, FOR AN OVERALL FLEET BUDGET, YEAR ONE OF 4 93.
SO THERE'S A HUMONGOUS SAVINGS THERE IN YEAR ONE.
THESE ARE GAS POWERED VEHICLES, COR UH, YES.
YES, WE COULD TALK EV UM, WHICH WAS ANOTHER CONVERSATION WE HAD AS WELL.
SO, SO THE, SO THE QUESTION I HAVE HERE IS, YOU MENTIONED THAT IT'S ALREADY GONNA BE POLICE OUTFITTED.
SO IS THAT ONE THAT OUTFIT AND COST AND UNDER THE LEASE AT 1 72, CORRECT? IT IS, IT IS IN THAT COST.
IT'S, IT'S IN IT'S INCORPORATED IN THAT THE, THE MANAGEMENT FEE IS IN THAT COST.
THE EVERYTHING IS IN THAT, ALL THE FEES, ALL THE FEES ARE INCLUDED IN IT.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS MORE OF A CONCEPTUAL MODEL, OBVIOUSLY WHEN, WHEN WE PUT PENCIL TO PAPER AND WE REALLY DIG IN, MAYBE ONE OF THE VEHICLES THAT WE IDENTIFIED IS, YOU KNOW, WE TALK TO THE TEAM AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THAT ONE'S OKAY BUT THAT ONE GOTTA GO.
SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME, SOME SHIFTING AROUND, BUT CONCEPTUALLY SPEAKING, THIS IS HOW IT'S GONNA PLAY OUT.
SO THAT FIRST YEAR, IF YOUR LEASE PAYMENTS ARE 1 72, BUT 103 IS COMING BACK FROM THE RESALE GAINS, THEN REALLY YOUR CAPEX OR, OR YOUR, YOUR SPREAD THERE IS ONLY $68,000.
SO THAT'S TO FUND $68,000 FOR 10 VEHICLES NEXT YEAR.
IF WE FOLLOW THAT THROUGH THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WE GET ANOTHER 11.
SO NOW YOU OWN 46, YOU HAVE 21 LEASED, YOU COULD FOLLOW THROUGH NOW.
SO LEASE PAYMENTS ARE STARTING TO STACK UP ON EACH OTHER.
RIGHT? SO NOW YOU HAVE 2 88 AND LEASE PAYMENT, WE'RE GONNA GET BACK ABOUT $80,000 IN, IN EQUITY ON, ON THE 11 THAT WE SELL FOR YOU.
YOUR MAINTENANCE NOW IS GONNA GO WAY DOWN BECAUSE 20 OF THOSE VEHICLES ARE BRAND NEW ESSENTIALLY.
UM, SO THE MAINTENANCE AND AND DOWNTIME AT THE SHOPS AND ALL OF THAT'S GONNA COME WAY DOWN.
FUEL'S GONNA GET IMPROVED AGAIN FOR A OVERALL FLEET BUDGET OF 5 81.
WE UNDERSTAND THEY LIVE IN TWO WORLDS THOUGH, CAPITAL AND OPERATING.
BUT JUST TO SHOW YOU KIND OF, YOU KNOW, ALL IN WHAT THE TOWN'S GONNA BE PAYING.
SO YEAR TWO THAT CAPEX IS 2 0 6, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE LEASE PAYMENTS AND THEN THE EQUITY COMING IN.
SO I WILL FAST FORWARD NOW TO YEAR FIVE BECAUSE IF THIS IS A FIVE YEAR CYCLE, YEAR FIVE IS VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU GET YOUR 17 THAT YEAR, NOW YOU DON'T OWN ANYMORE.
SO NOW WE'RE FULLY IN, WE HAVE ALL LEASED VEHICLES, LIFE IS GOOD, 67 BRAND NEW VEHICLES.
SO AGAIN, PURCHASE BUDGET, ZERO LEASE PAYMENTS ARE 8 78.
BUT NOT ONLY ARE WE SELLING THAT LAST REMAINING OF YOUR FLEET, BUT WE'RE NOW STARTING TO SPRINKLE IN THOSE BRAND NEW VEHICLES THAT WE INITIALLY LEASED IN YEAR ONE AND WE'RE STARTING TO SELL THOSE.
SO THOSE ARE WHEN YOU'RE GONNA GET YOUR 10, 15, $20,000 GAINS PER VEHICLE 'CAUSE THEY'RE BRAND NEW.
UM, AND ON THE THREE YEAR VEHICLES IT MIGHT EVEN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND ON SOME YOU MIGHT WANT TO KEEP IT A SIXTH YEAR OR SEVENTH YEAR.
THAT'S WHY IT'S KIND OF A MOVING MODEL.
BUT THAT'S WHERE THAT SECOND COLUMN OF EQUITY COMING BACK, SO ON AN ONGOING BASIS, YOUR MAINTENANCE IS GONNA DROP TO 85,000
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OVER THE COURSE OF THOSE AS A, COMPARED TO THE THREE 50 THAT YOU'RE SPENDING TODAY.SIMILARLY, THE 82,000 IN FUEL, AGAIN, WE CAN'T PREDICT FUEL PRICING, BUT ALL THINGS EQUAL, IT'S GONNA DROP, WHAT IS THAT 18% OR SO IN FUEL.
FOR AN OVERALL BUDGET OF 6 23.
AND AGAIN, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU RUN THE NUMBERS ALL THE WAY DOWN, YOU'RE GONNA SEE CONSISTENTLY, AND I DON'T HAVE A A LASER PEN HERE, BUT 75,000 IN MAINTENANCE IS STATIC.
'CAUSE AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE REPLACING VEHICLES, IT'S GONNA BE DOWN.
SO OVER 10 YEARS YOU'RE GONNA RECOGNIZE JUST UNDER A MILLION DOLLARS IN SAVINGS.
WHAT I ALWAYS SAY IS IT'S A WE GREAT NUMBER, BUT EVEN IF IT WAS COST NEUTRAL, WE'RE GONNA GET BRAND NEW VEHICLES EVERY THREE TO FIVE YEARS.
SAFETY ON THE ROAD, A, A GOOD TURNAROUND, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA BE A GREAT PROGRAM FOR YOU.
IF WE DID THE HIGHWAY TRUCKS AND VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, WE DO EVERYTHING, UM, WE, WE WOULD GET BETTER PRICES FOR EACH.
WELL SOURCE WALL HAS THE BEST PRICING, THAT'S FOR SURE.
I'M TALKING ABOUT IF YOU BUY A LOT MORE, YOU DO GET BETTER PRICES OR ECONOMY OF SCALE.
YEAH, WELL WE ARE, WE'RE PIGGYBACKING NOT ONLY OFF OF SOURCE WALL, WHICH IS TENS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF VEHICLES ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT ARE ON THAT CONTRACT, BUT ALSO ENTERPRISE WITH THEIR MILLION PLUS THE GOVERNMENT CONCESSION TO BEGIN WITH.
SO REALLY THE PRICING IS PROBABLY GONNA BE THERE.
WE WILL HOWEVER PIT COMPANIES UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.
SO IF FORD WINS THE CONTRACT FOR THE F-150, BUT RAM 1500 SAYS WE WANNA PLAY BALL, I'LL GIVE YOU A $15,000 OFF.
THEN, THEN WE COULD POTENTIALLY WORK THAT ECONOMY OF SCALE AND BRING THAT DOWN FOR YOU.
THAT'S THAT ONGOING CONSULTING THAT WE DO IT FOR YOU.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PRESENTATION? JUST, I'M JUST LOOKING AT THE TIME.
I KNOW COUNCIL WOMAN HAYWARD JUST JOINED.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU WANT SINCE YOU JUST JUMPED IN.
UM, IT'S REALLY JUST A MATTER OF ARE WE GONNA SAVE MONEY? AND IT'S A MATTER OF LOOKING AT THE NUMBERS AND SEEING, ONCE KIMBERLY DOES HER ANALYSIS AND YOU BRING YOUR ANALYSIS AND YOU KNOW, WE HEAR FROM THE CHIEF AND THE COMMISSIONER, I THINK WE CAN, ONCE YOU BRING YOUR PROJECTS BACK TO US, THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT WHAT WE FOR.
I MEAN WOULD THIS ALSO HAS ANY COMMUNITY DONE SORT OF LIKE A ANNUAL SORT OF LIKE LET'S SAY SOMEBODY HAS A CAPITAL BUDGET, SAY COMMUNITY IN PENNSYLVANIA, WOULD THEY SOMETIMES SAY, WE'RE GONNA GO OUT FOR THE MARKET AND DO A BID FOR ACTUAL, YOU KNOW, PURCHASING AND ANOTHER AND DO THE LEASING, YOU KNOW, DO THIS EVERY YEAR AND THEN JUST COMPARE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE PRICES OF A LEASE VEHICLES ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS FOR TAXPAYERS TO, UM, PURCHASE.
I THINK THESE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT'S QUESTION THE, THOSE QUESTION.
THE QUESTION IS, YOU MAY WANT TO DO THIS LIKE ANNUALLY RATHER THAN SORT OF ONCE YOU, YOU KNOW, AGREE ON THE LEASE, YOU KNOW, SITUATION, YOU KNOW, YOU MAY WANT TO EVERY YEAR DO COMPARISONS.
I THINK ONCE WE LOOK AT THE PROGRAM AND ONCE YOU GUYS BRING BACK THE DATA AND EVERYTHING, WE CAN SEE THE BENEFIT OF WHAT WOULD BE IF WE DO A FIVE YEARS THREE, I THINK WE NEED TO SEE THE DATA FIRST.
SO, AND SINCE, UM, IT WOULD BE HELPFUL ALSO, ALTHOUGH YOU MIGHT HAVE DONE YOUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THIS TO SPEAK TO THE PEOPLE AT THE VARIOUS COMMUNITIES THAT YOU'VE BEEN DEALING WITH.
IF YOU COULD GIVE US YOUR NAME, APPRECIATE CONTACT INFORMATION.
IF WE CAN GET SOME REFERENCES.
ONE OF THE SELLING POINTS WITH THE FLEET MANAGEMENT IS THAT THEY'RE CONSTANTLY MONITORING THE STATUS OF THE FLEET.
SO WHEN THEY SEE THAT A CAR MAYBE THREE YEARS OLD, THAT WAS EXPECTED TO LAST FIVE YEARS MM-HMM
THEY MAY SAY, WE NEED TO SWITCH THIS CAR OUT, WE'LL SELL IT NOW.
AND HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT HYBRID OR AN EV LIKE YOU SAID MM-HMM
WE CAN PUT YOU IN THAT FOR, FOR THIS MISSION, UH, FOR FOUR YEARS.
UM, SO IT'S, IT'S CONSTANTLY BEING EVALUATED, BUT I KNOW ON THE TRAJECTORY THAT WE ARE ON MM-HMM
SO REDUCING THE AGE OF FLEET IS GONNA REDUCE THAT MAINTENANCE AND FUEL THAT WE'RE SPENDING SO MUCH ON.
THAT WAS VERY THOROUGH AND CLEAR AND FAST.
READY? LEMME TALK TO TOMORROW.
YOU KNOW, I'LL JUST LEAVE THEM, I'LL LEAVE THEM INSTEAD OF CONSTRUCTION.
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UH, I DON'T WANNA CARRY THEM UPSTAIRS.YOU KNOW, DIDN'T YOU PLEASURE.
OH I KNOW RIGHT? YOU I, SORRY.
ALRIGHT, GARRETT, HERE'S YOUR ROCK.
COMMISSIONER GARRETT DEKE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
JOINED BY DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, UH, AARON SCHMIDT.
I WOULD LIKE TO KICK THINGS OFF HERE REGARDING AN UPDATE ON THE SOLAR PROJECT THAT'S ON PACE HERE.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.
UH, THE TOWN BOARD APPROVED THE SERVICES OF RIVERTOWN SOLAR, A LOCAL, UH, DOBBS, FERRY BASED SOLAR INSTALLATION PROVIDER.
AND WE WORKED WITH THEM TO DO AN ARRAY OF UPDATED SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF OF TOWN HALL AS WELL AS THREE, WHAT THEY CALL SOLAR GROUND MOUNTS.
AND I, I DO HAVE THAT DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN.
AND THE BUILDING IS TO THE LOWER END THERE AND THERE ARE TWO EXISTING ARRAYS ON THE ROOF.
THIS WOULD, I THINK, ALMOST QUADRUPLE THE AMOUNT OF SOLAR PANELS ON THE ROOF.
AND THE SOLAR ARRAYS IN THE PARKING LOT WOULD BE AT A HEIGHT WHERE CARS COULD PULL BENEATH AND ALSO AT A SUFFICIENT HEIGHT FOR THE VARIOUS WORK VEHICLES, UH, TO TRAVERSE THE PARKING LOT.
UH, THE PROJECT, JUST FROM A TIMELINE PERSPECTIVE, APRIL 1ST IS WHEN WE EXPECT 90% DRAWINGS.
THOSE WILL BE ROUTED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND DPW FOR REVIEW.
UM, JUNE IS THE TARGETED START OF CONSTRUCTION AND THE SOLAR PROVIDER ESTIMATES THREE TO FOUR MONTH COMPLETION PERIOD.
SO THAT WOULD PUT US INTO THE FALL FOR A COMPLETED PROJECT, UH, THE PROJECT WILL GENERATE 384 KILOWATT DC OR POWER AND THE PROJECT WOULD OFFSET ROUGHLY 54% OF THE ENERGY THAT IS USED HERE AT TOWN HALL.
AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS, UM, I THINK IT'S PROJECTED AT ROUGHLY $70,000 ANNUAL SAVINGS OKAY.
TO AFFECT THE PROJECT, THE SOLAR CARPORT ARRAY TO THE PARKING LOT THAT YOU SEE HERE ON THE SCREEN.
THERE ARE SOME TREE REMOVALS THAT WOULD NEED TO TAKE PLACE TO LITERALLY PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE DOWN.
WE DO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE TO TRANSPLANT SOME OF THOSE TREES.
AND I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO AARON SCHMIDT, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THE GAME PLAN WITH RESPECT TO LANDSCAPING AND TREE REMOVALS.
AARON SCHMIDT, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME ON THIS EVENING.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FOR THE INTRODUCTION.
UM, SO AS THE COMMISSIONER MENTIONED IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOLAR INSTALLATION PROJECT OUT IN THE TOWN HALL PARKING LOT, UM, THERE'S A TOTAL OF 13 TREES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED IN CONNECTION WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THOSE GROUND MOUNTED SOLAR PANELS.
SO I'VE COME UP WITH AN OPPORTUNITY AND WE TOOK A LOOK AT WHERE WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPLANT THESE TREES.
THEY'RE STILL YOUNG, UM, AND I'D HATE TO CUT THEM DOWN.
I THINK THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO TRANSPLANT THOSE TREES.
SO IN LOOKING AT TOWN HALL, IF YOU COME OUT OF THE TOWN HALL BUILDING AND YOU GO THROUGH THE FIRST ALLEY OF TREES, THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 16 CALORIE PEAR TREES THAT WE HAVE ALL KNOWN FOR A LONG TIME FLOWER IN THE SPRING.
UM, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, WELL THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT ARE ACTUALLY WRONG WITH THOSE TREES AT THIS TIME.
FIRST OF ALL, THEY WERE PLANTED YEAR ABOUT 30 YEARS AGO WHEN THE BUILDING WAS CONSTRUCTED AND THEY ONLY HAVE A LIFESPAN OF BETWEEN 30 AND 35 YEARS.
SO THEY'RE IN THE LAST LEG OF THEIR LIFECYCLE AND THAT CAN EASILY BE, EASILY BE SEEN OUT WHEN YOU WALK UNDER THE TREES.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STORM DAMAGE LIMBS AND BROKEN BRANCHES THAT HAVE HAD TO HAVE, UH, PRUNING OVER THE YEARS AND THEY'RE STARTING TO DECLINE.
ADDITIONALLY, I'VE OBSERVED OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT THEY HAVE A FOLIAR DISEASE KNOWN AS PEAR RUST THAT INFECTS, UH, THE FLOWERING PEAR TREES AND CAN SPREAD TO OTHER TREES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
SO WHEN LOOKING AT THESE TREES AND YOU KNOW, THE FACT THAT THEY'RE DECLINING, THEY'RE DISEASED AND THEY'RE ALSO, THEY WERE OVER PLANTED IN THE TOWN.
THEY WERE VERY POPULAR ORNAMENTAL
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AND STREET TREE 30, 40 AND 50 YEARS AGO, PROBABLY BECAUSE OF THE FLOWERING THAT THEY DO.UM, BUT BEING THAT THEY'VE, UM,
WE OBVIOUSLY DON'T HAVE THAT AT TOWN HALL BECAUSE WE MANAGE OUR PROPERTY, BUT IN UNMANAGED AREAS THEY CAN INVADE.
SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TO THE TOWN BOARD THIS EVENING IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO REMOVE THOSE, UM, DECLINING, I'LL CALL THEM AND DISEASED CALORIE FLOWERING PEAR TREES AND REPLACE THEM WITH SOME OF THESE TREES THAT WE ALREADY HAVE GROWING AT TOWN HALL THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED IN CONNECTION WITH THE SOLAR CANOPY INSTALLATION PROJECT.
SO IN TOTALITY, AS I SAID, THERE ARE 16 CALORIE PEAR TREES WITHIN THAT ALLEY.
I THINK GARRETT HAS THE CURSOR GOING OVER THAT AREA.
AND WE WOULD TAKE, UM, OF THE 13 TREES THAT WOULD NEED TO BE REMOVED, ALL OF WHICH ARE NATIVE SPECIES TO THE AREA.
SO AS I'VE BEEN, WE'VE BEEN PLANTING TOWN HALL, WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN ADDING IN NATIVE SPECIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO PROMOTE TO OUR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS OWNERS.
SO WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO TAKE, UH, I WOULD SAY NINE OF THE 13 TREES AND REPLANT THEM INTO THE AREA WHERE THE PEAR TREES ARE.
UM, THAT WOULD CONSIST OF THREE AMERICAN SWEET GUM TREES AND THEY'RE ABOUT 15 TO 20 FEET TALL ALREADY.
SO THEY'RE NOT SMALL TREES, BUT THEY ARE OF A SIZE THAT ARE, THEY'RE EASILY TRANSPLANTABLE BY, UH, A CONTRACTOR.
SO WE WOULD TAKE THREE OF THOSE AND THEN SORT OF IN THE MIDDLE, AS YOU WALK UP AND OUT OF TOWN HALL INTO THE PARKING LOT, WE HAVE SIX, UM, AMERICAN BLACK GUM TREES.
THEY'RE A NICE NATIVE TREE AS WELL.
THEY'RE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THE SWEET GUMS I PREVIOUSLY REFERENCED.
BUT WE WOULD TAKE, UM, WE WOULD TAKE FOUR OF THOSE AND PLANT THEM ALSO BACK INTO THE AREA.
AND THEN FURTHER UP WHERE THE NATIVE, UH, PLANTING GARDEN IS, WHERE THE SIDEWALK THERE STARTS TO FLARE OUT IN TWO DIRECTIONS.
ONE OF THEM'S ACTUALLY IN DECLINE, BUT THE OTHER TWO ARE VERY HEALTHY AND THEY'RE A NICE SMALLER GROWING FLOWERING NATIVE TREE THAT WE CAN PLANT BACK INTO THE AREA AS WELL.
UM, WHAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IN SPACING OUT THESE TREES, UH, INTO THE AREA WHERE THE, WHERE THE PEARS POTENTIALLY WOULD BE REMOVED, IS TO GIVE THEM ENOUGH SPACE TO GROW WITHOUT CROWDING OUT ONE ANOTHER AND ALSO TO BE MINDFUL OF THE CANOPIES IN THE FUTURE.
SO I'M GONNA SITUATE THE, I WOULD SITUATE THE EASTERN RED BUD TREES, UH, CLOSEST TO THE CANOPY, THE CANOPIES SO THAT THOSE ARE THE LOWEST GROWING TREES AND WOULD NOT HAVE CONFLICTS IN THE FUTURE.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GIVE ENOUGH SPACE TO THE SOLAR SYSTEM SO THAT, UH, THE SOLAR CANOPY SO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, GET THE MOST BENEFITS OUT.
AND THE LAST THING WE WANNA DO IS PLANT TREES IN THAT AREA THAT ARE GONNA SHADE THAT SYSTEM.
SO, UM, THAT'S MY PRESENTATION FOR THIS EVENING.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
AND I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME OTHER THINGS ON THE AGENDA TONIGHT.
WHEN WE SPOKE IN THE AFTERNOON, UH, YOU MENTIONED THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TREE BECAUSE I THINK THE CANOPY OF, YOU KNOW, THE TREES AT, AT THE ENTRANCE, THIS IS ONE OF THE NICEST, UH, ENTRANCES, YOU KNOW, AROUND.
SO IT'S AGGRAVATING THAT THE TREES ARE COMING DOWN, BUT IF THE TREES ARE IN THE PROCESS OF DYING, UH, UH, THERE'S ALSO SAFETY CONSIDERATIONS.
IF A BRANCH FALLS ON, UM, A VISITOR TO TOWN HALL OR AN EMPLOYEE, UM, YOU KNOW, COULD INJURE SOMEBODY.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THE TREES HAVE TO COME DOWN IS BECAUSE WE WANT TO, UH, BE PROACTIVE, NOT WAIT FOR, UM, AN ACCIDENT TO, YOU KNOW, TO OCCUR.
SO THERE ARE A NUMBER OF BRANCHES THAT HAVE BROKEN OUT OF THESE PEAR TREES.
THEY'RE NOT HUGE BRANCHES, BUT THEY COULD PRESENT TRIPPING HAZARDS.
WE HAVE, UH, OUR EL ELDERLY RESIDENTS, WE HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN COMING TO TOWN HALL AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO ELIMINATE ANY POTENTIAL HAZARD.
AND THE NEW TREES THAT WOULD BE RELOCATED TO THIS AREA ARE ALL YOUNG, HEALTHY, STRONG TREES.
UH, THERE WERE A FEW THAT WOULD, THAT WERE DAMAGED
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AND OR DECLINING AND THOSE OBVIOUSLY WE WOULD NOT RELOCATE INTO THIS AREA.THERE'S ONE OAK TREE YOU MAY SEE IT STILL HAS THE, THE LEAVES ON IT AND WE WOULD RELOCATE THAT OUT TOWARDS THE, THE POND AT THE TOWN HALL SITE.
'CAUSE IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THIS AREA.
IT'S TOO LARGE OF A GROWING TREE.
AND YOU MENTIONED TO ME EARLIER TODAY THAT WE WOULD, THAT YOU'RE ANTICIPATING THAT TREES WOULD COME DOWN WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS AND THEN, UM, THERE'D BE MAYBE A WEEK, UH, A WEEK WHERE THERE'D BE NO TREES AND THEN THE, THE PLANTINGS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A WEEK AFTER THE TREES COME DOWN.
THAT'S THE APPROXIMATE TIMELINE.
SO I THINK WE COULD GET TO IT.
I SPOKE WITH FRANK MORABITO AND RICH FA AND OUR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
THEY'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON A SMALL SIDEWALK INSTALLATION TO CONNECT INTO THE TOWN HALL SITE.
BUT AFTER THAT, WITHIN THE NEXT ONE TO TWO WEEKS, THEY'LL BE READY TO GO IN-HOUSE CREWS WILL WOULD REMOVE THE PEAR TREES, THEY WOULD REMOVE THE STUMPS AND LEAVE A BLANK SLATE FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO COME IN AND, AND TRANSPLANT THOSE TREES FROM ELSEWHERE UP IN THE PARKING LOT INTO THIS AREA.
I ALSO WANTED TO MENTION, UH, THAT I SPOKE WITH OUR CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL CHAIRWOMAN, UH, EARLIER TODAY.
AND SHE IS AWARE, UH, OF THE PROPOSAL, SHE'S SUPPORTIVE.
SHE DOES PROMOTE NATIVE TREE PLANTING.
SHE'S HAPPY THAT INSTEAD OF US CUTTING DOWN THE TREES, THE NATIVE TREES UP ABOVE IN THE UPPER PARKING LOT, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO RELOCATE THEM AND REMOVE, UH, THE P OF TREES THAT ARE IN DECLINE AND HOW MUCH WORK IS GONNA BE DONE IN-HOUSE.
SO THE IN-HOUSE WORK WOULD CONSIST OF THE CUTTING OF THE PEAR TREES, THE REMOVAL OF THEIR STUMPS, THE PREPPING OF THE SITE FOR THE REPLANTING.
AND THEN THROUGH THE TOWN TREE FUND, WHICH WE COLLECT FROM DEVELOPERS AND APPLICANTS FOR LARGE SCALE TREE REMOVAL PROJECTS, WE CAN BRING IN A CONTRACTOR THAT WILL PROPERLY BE ABLE TO TRANSPLANT THAT THESE TREES, THEY HAVE THE EXPERIENCE, THEY WILL PROVIDE AN AFTERCARE PROGRAM TO TOWN HALL SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT THESE TAKE IN THEIR NEW LOCATION AND GROW INTO NICE LONG-LIVED BEAUTIFUL NATIVE TREES.
THERE'S NO COST TO THERE'S NO COST TO THE TAXPAYERS.
WE ALREADY HAVE THE FUNDS IN THE REE FUND.
I KNOW IT CAN BE SHOCKING WHEN RESIDENTS SEE A DENUDED AREA, LIKE THE TREES ARE GONE SUDDENLY.
SO IT'S GOOD TO PUT IT OUT SEVERAL TIMES ON THE GB LIST THAT THIS IS HAPPENING.
SO WHEN THEY COME BY, DON'T THINK THEY WERE TAKING ALL THE TREES DOWN FOR NO REASON.
THIS HAPPENED IN DOS SPRAY ALSO, EVERYONE WAS UP IN, YOU KNOW, A BIG UPROAR, BUT IT ALL HAD BEEN DISCUSSED BUT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T PICK UP ON IT.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST SEVERAL TIMES COMMUNICATING THIS IS HAPPENING, BUT WE ARE PUTTING NEW TREES IN.
MAYBE PUTTING SOME NOTICES AT YES.
MAYBE PUTTING SOME NOTICES AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING TOO SO THAT PEOPLE WHO REGULARLY COME IN HAVE NOTICE.
YEAH, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY, ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE TOWN SUPERVISOR, I'M GONNA PREPARE A WRITEUP FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO DISTRIBUTE THROUGH THE, UH, E LIST SO THAT WE CAN GET THINGS OUT TO RESIDENTS AND THOSE THAT ARE, UH, SUBSCRIBED TO THE GB LIST AND MAYBE PUT A TEMPLATE SO WE'LL ABSOLUTELY.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO GET THE WORD OUT TO OUR RESIDENTS AND THOSE THAT VISIT TOWN HALL.
AND MAYBE WE CAN JUST PUT A TEMPORARY SIGN, JUST SAY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST SOMETHING NICE AND INVITING SO PEOPLE WILL BE EXCITED TO SEE WHAT'S GONNA COME AFTER WE TAKE ALL THAT STUFF DOWN.
I DID ACTUALLY ALSO MENTION, BECAUSE I HAD CONCERNS ABOUT UH, UH, THE BOB GOLD PARK WHEN THEY TOOK DOWN THE TREES AND YOU KNOW, TODAY WHEN I WAS UH, LOOKING AT THE PARK, IT LOOKS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, QUITE NICE.
YOU KNOW, YOU GET USED TO IT AND THEY'RE GONNA BE PLANTING MORE TREES, UH, AT THE BOB GOLD PARK BEFORE.
GARY, HAVE SOMETHING ELSE? NONE ON THIS MATTER.
CAN I ASK ONE QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT TO GET THROUGH.
SO WHEN THE SOLAR PANELS ARE BEING PUT UP, WHAT WILL OUR PARKING SITUATION LOOK LIKE? WILL WE LOSING A LOT OF SPOTS? UM, AND HOW LONG OF A PERIOD WILL THAT ONLY TEMPORARILY ONCE THE PANELS ARE UP? THERE SHOULD BE THE SAME NUMBER OF PARKING SPOTS DURING THE CONSTRUCTION.
THERE WILL BE OBVIOUSLY SPOTS LOST.
DO WE KNOW ABOUT HOW MANY SO FAR WE COULD LOOK AT IT.
IT'LL BE A CRITICAL WEEK OR TWO WHERE I PRESUME WHOLE ROWS OF PARKING SPOTS WILL BE DECOMMISSIONED AND WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME AND WHERE WOULD THOSE PEOPLE PARK FURTHER BACK, I GUESS.
IS THERE ROOM FURTHER BACK? WE MAY HAVE TO WORK WITH OUR NEIGHBORS NEXT DOOR AND HAVE STAFF PARK NEXT DOOR TO, UM, FACILITATE THAT WORK.
THE MORE DETAILS ON THAT GOOD CONSIDERATION.
AND THEN THE TIMEFRAME AND THEN THE TIMEFRAME ON THE CONSTRUCTION
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PIECE.WELL, THE WHOLE PROJECT IS THREE MONTHS, BUT THEY'RE REALLY GONNA BE VERY ACTIVE, UM, IN PERIODS LIKE WE'LL DO THE BORINGS AND THE FOUNDATIONS.
MAYBE ONE WEEK I WILL GET A VERY CONCISE TIMELINE, UH, MANY WEEKS IN ADVANCE OF THE, OF THE START OF THE PROJECT.
THEY COULD DO WHAT I DO ON BICYCLE.
WELL, NO, I'M JUST THINKING IF WE HAVE ANY EVENTS PLANNED, LIKE, UM, GEN OR WHATEVER.
WHEN ARE WE STARTING THAT? BECAUSE, UM, NATIONAL, WE, WE NEED THAT FOR AFTER JUNETEENTH AFTER NATIONAL NIGHT OUT.
WE'LL WORK WITH TOWN BOARD TO MINIMIZE DISRUPTIONS.
THE JUNETEENTH IS AT THE END OF THE DAY AFTER EVERYBODY BASICALLY.
THERE'S STILL CONSTRUCTION WORK GOING.
CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS, CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS.
CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THE VETERAN PARK BECAUSE WE'VE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE, A YEAR AND A HALF AGO WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE CANOPIES BOTH AT, UH, THE TOWN HALL, WHICH IS MOVING ALONG VETERAN PARK, WHICH WE'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS WITH.
UM, I'M SORT OF THINKING THAT, UM, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO REBID THE VETERAN PARK.
UH, I MEAN THERE'S TWO CHOICES.
ONE IS TO GO WITH A SECOND, UH, YOU KNOW, BIDDER OR TO, UH, OR TO DO A COMPLETE, YOU KNOW, REBUT SINCE THE WINNING BID BASICALLY WASN'T ABLE TO PROCEED WITH IT, RIGHT? YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY NOT.
UH, MY RECOMMENDATION IS WE DID REACH OUT TO THE SECOND, UH, FIRM, UH, THAT THE WAS NOT CHOSEN.
THEY ARE COMING UP WITH A PROPOSAL FOR ANTHONY VETERAN.
LET'S SEE IF IT RIVALS OR IS BETTER THAN THE FIRST PROPOSAL.
AND, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL SEE WHAT THE TOWN BOARD WANTS TO DO.
ULTIMATELY, IF IT IS AS GOOD OR, OR, OR BETTER, IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO ACT ON THAT BECAUSE, UH, THE INCENTIVES ARE CONTINUALLY NOT AS GOOD AS THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, A YEAR AGO.
UM, BUT ULTIMATELY IF IT'S NOT A GOOD DEAL THEN WE, IT MAY MAKE SENSE TO DO A FULL, THE THE ONLY, UH, REBID THE ONLY THING THAT I, I'M JUST THROWING OUT, UM, AND I'M JUST MENTIONING BECAUSE IT WAS SOMEBODY FROM HARTSDALE WHO, YOU KNOW, HAD APPROACHED US YEARS AGO AND HE DIDN'T RE HE WASN'T AWARE, UH, THAT WE WERE BIDDING ON A, UH, YOU KNOW, ON THE, WHAT IS IT? THE, THE BID PAGE OR SOMETHING? YES.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, I SORT OF FELT THAT AND YOU KNOW, HE WAS REALLY DISAPPOINTED A YEAR AGO AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, IF WE BASICALLY WOULD SAY TO THE SECOND BIDDER, YOU KNOW, YOU COME IN WITH A PROPOSAL AND WE BASICALLY JUST QUICKLY OPENED IT UP AND HAD A SHORT TIMETABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THEN I FEEL THAT NOBODY COULD SAY THERE BEING SHUT OUT OF THE PROCESS AND, WELL, I'M SORRY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT PROCESS AGAIN? I'M JUST UNDERSTANDING PROCESS.
UM, AND WE USED, UM, NO, I'M WANNA STAND THE PROCESS THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING.
NO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE DONE IT SHOULD HAVE A VERY EXPEDITED, UH, AN EXPEDITE.
WHAT DO YOU NEW RFQ ON ANTHONY VETERANS IS WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS PERHAPS LET'S JUST, IF THE DEAL THAT COMES IN FROM THIS NEXT FIRM OKAY.
UH, IS VERY APPETIZING TO THE TOWN BOARD.
THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES.
WE ARE GOING TO DO AN R-F-Q-R-F-P FOR THE LIBRARY AS WELL AS THE T-D-Y-C-C.
AND THAT WILL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY.
AND THAT GENTLEMAN I'VE SINCE CONNECTED HIM WITH HOW TO GET ON THE RFP LIST FOR THE TOWN SO HE WOULD NEVER MISS OUT AGAIN.
UM, WHAT TO NEW YORK STATE CONTRACT REPORT? UH, HE DIDN'T READ.
HE, HE DIDN'T, HE DOESN'T GET, HE DIDN'T GET THAT.
WE'RE ALWAYS ON THE CONTRACT REPORTER, BUT WE ALWAYS ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO ALSO SIGN UP FOR OUR DPW LIST, WHICH IS WHICH OKAY.
AARON, I KNOW YOU HAVE A SIX 30 MEETING WITH ANOTHER.
SO, UM, I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD ON TOWN HALL.
AND I SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED THIS CONTEXT.
WHEN THE TOWN ORIGINALLY DID AN RFQ, WE FOCUSED ON TOWN HALL AND ANTHONY VETERAN PARK.
SELECTED FIRM A RIVERTOWN SQUARE FOR TOWN HALL.
DID A, A LETTER OF INTENT WITH THEM THAT GAVE THEM 60 DAYS TO COME UP, FINE TUNE THEIR PROPOSAL, AND AT THE END OF THAT 60 DAYS, THEIR PROPOSAL DIDN'T UNFORTUNATELY MATCH WHAT THEY CAME TO THE TABLE WITH IN THEIR RFQ.
THEREFORE, WE SORT OF BROKE TIES WITH THAT FIRM.
WE DID REACH OUT TO THE SECOND FIRM TO SAY, HEY, UH, WE NEVER SELECTED A FIRST FIRM.
UM, ARE YOU STILL INTERESTED? THEY SAID, ABSOLUTELY.
ANY DAY NOW, I'M SUPPOSED TO GET AN UPDATED PROPOSAL FROM THAT.
AND, AND THERE WERE, THERE WERE THREE FIRM, THERE WERE FOUR FIRMS ALL TOGETHER THAT WE INTERVIEWED.
AND OF THE FOUR WE PICKED ONE, BUT THE OTHER THREE, ARE THEY ALL, WOULD ANY OF THE OTHERS BE VIABLE? IF POTENTIALLY, UM, OKAY.
WELL ONE OF THEM WAS THE ONE THAT WE, THERE WERE TWO THAT WERE TAR.
THERE WERE TWO THAT FELT BEST SUITED FOR, UM, THE VETERAN, IF YOU WILL.
THE ONE AT TOWN HALL WAS OWNERSHIP FOR
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THE TOWN, RIGHT? OR WAS THAT THE LEASE AND WHEN WAS LEASE? YES.TOWN TOWN'S PURCHASING THE, THE SOLAR PANELS FOR EVERYTHING I JUST DESCRIBED AT TOWN HALL.
THE AF VETERAN WAS LEASING OUTRIGHT PURCHASE.
AND YES, THAT WAS LEASE, UH, REVENUE TO BE GENERATED EVERY YEAR.
AND THAT WILL STILL BE THE GOAL.
SO WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.
UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA REPEAT WHAT COUNCILMAN SHE JUST, UH, MENTIONED TO US.
THERE'S ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY TOO.
WE CAN SEE HOW WELL THE TOWN HALL, WHEN THEY PUT THE, THE SOLAR PANELS AT TOWN HALL, HOW WELL THEY DO.
I MEAN, WE CAN SCALE UP FROM THEM AND WE CAN SEE HOW WELL, YEAH.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU GET SOLAR NOW, IF THEY, CAN THEY HANDLE, CAN THEY HANDLE CAPACITY FOR THAT? I MEAN, ARE THEY ABLE TO HANDLE THE WORK AT, AT, POTENTIALLY.
SO WE, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ALSO VISIT AS WELL.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THAT MAYBE REBIDDING MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE, IN MY OPINION, WOULD MAKE MORE SENSE.
I, I, I WOULDN'T KNOW THAT OUT.
I WAS DISAGREEING WITH YOU, PAUL.
WE'RE ALL GONNA GO INTO, OKAY, WE'LL TAKE SOME.
WE'LL, WE MAY NOT NEED TO REBID THOUGH, SO THAT'S THE GOOD PART.
AND THE NEXT ITEM, I BELIEVE IS THE HARTSDALE FARMER'S MARKET.
SO TERRENCE, IF YOU COULD, HE'S HERE.
SO AS, AS THE BOARD KNOWS, AND JUST FOR CONTEXT, UM, WESTCHESTER GREENHOUSE AND FARMS, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, IS UNABLE TO CONTINUE DOING THE FARMER'S MARKET.
AND WE LEARNED OF THAT I THINK ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
SO WE'RE REALLY AT A POINT WHERE IT'S DIFFICULT TO PIVOT.
AND I THINK SUPERVISOR DID AN E-BLAST AND WE REACHED OUT TO SOME CONTEXT, UM, THAT WE KNEW IN THE FARMER'S MARKET SPACE.
AND THIS GENTLEMAN, UH, JOSEPH CATONA, UH, REACHED OUT WITH INTEREST AND, UH, HE'S HERE NOW.
I SENT OUT HIS BIO EARLIER TODAY, UH, BY EMAIL.
AND, UM, YEAH, JOEY AND I JUST WANNA MENTION BEFORE, UM, BEFORE JOEY, UM, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO US.
SO I SPOKE TO KRISTA, YOU KNOW, TODAY AND, UM, RIGHT AFTER, UH, THE FARM IN HARTSDALE DECIDED THAT THEY WEREN'T GONNA BE, UM, PARTICIPATING THIS YEAR, UH, WE REACHED OUT TO EVERYBODY WHO, UM, WE HAD A BIDDING PROCESS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FARMER'S MARKETS.
SO WE REACHED OUT TO EVERYBODY, UM, WHO HAD PREVIOUSLY EXPRESSED INTEREST.
AND I THINK IT WAS LIKE OVER A, OVER A DOZEN, UH, FARMERS.
SO, UM, WE DEFINITELY MADE, YOU KNOW, MADE AN EFFORT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, GARRETT AND I MET WITH JOEY, UH, YOU KNOW, LAST WEEK.
AND HE'S JUST, JUST, JUST FOR CLARITY, 'CAUSE I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED.
SO WHEN, SO YOU MET WITH INDIVIDUAL FARMERS TO, TO HAVE THEM COME AND MARKET HERE IN HARTSDALE OR THEY WILL GO THROUGH JOEY? OR IS THAT WHAT YOU WELL, JOE, WALK US THROUGH HIS MODEL.
BUT ULTIMATELY WE HAD A POOL OF INTEREST, LET'S SAY IN FARMER'S MARKET IN GENERAL MARKET OF THE VENDORS.
PRODUCE VENDORS, MAINLY OPERATORS.
I THINK IT WAS OUR FOCUS FOR THAT'S, I WANTED TO SEE WHAT IT WAS.
IT WAS THE OPERATORS OF VENDORS.
HOW ARE YOU? HOW ARE YOU? I'M DOING ALL RIGHT.
SO WALK US THROUGH YOUR PROCESS.
WHAT PROCESS ARE WE, ARE YOU REFERRING TO MA'AM, GARY? SO JOE, WE VISITED THE SPACE LAST WEEK AND JOE OPERATES A COUPLE FARMER'S MARKETS IN WESTCHESTER, ROCKLAND, AND ORANGE COUNTY.
AND JOE, IF YOU COULD JUST, UM, WALK THE BOARD THROUGH SOME OF YOUR BACKGROUND, SOME OF WHAT YOU DO WITH RESPECT TO FARMER'S MARKETS ELSEWHERE, AND, UM, JUST LET US KNOW YOUR THOUGHTS ON AN INTEREST ON THE SPACE HERE IN HARTSDALE.
SO, UM, WELL, WHEN I GOT THE LETTER FROM KRISTA WAS THE FIRST TIME I HEARD OF THE HARTSDALE FARMER'S MARKET.
AND, UM, BASICALLY, UH, MY COMPANY HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS FOR 10 YEARS.
I OPERATE FARMER'S MARKET STALLS AND I'M INVOLVED IN THE FARMER'S MARKET COMMUNITY.
I CO-MANAGED THE GOSHEN FARMER'S MARKETS IN ORANGE COUNTY.
I'M PART OF THE, UH, FARMER'S MARKET ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
AND, UM, YEAH, BASICALLY, UM, I, WE JUST LOOKED AT THE SPACE AND UM, I, UH, SPOKE WITH THE GENTLEMAN THAT USED TO, UH, WESTCHESTER GREENHOUSES, JOE ALSO WHO SAID THAT, UM, HE USED TO RUN THE FARMER'S MARKET.
HE WALKED ME THROUGH THE PROCESS.
I ASKED HIM SIDE STAND THAT HE HAD AND AND WHO ELSE DID HE HAVE, UH, VENDING AT THE FARMER'S MARKET.
AND, UM, BASICALLY, UM, YEAH, I MEAN, I, I'M OPEN TO QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT REALLY VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT I SHOULD, WHAT I SHOULD SAY.
BUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, JUST PLEASE GO AHEAD AND I CAN WALK YOU THROUGH IT.
BUT YOU'D, YOU'D BE PREPARED TO DO, UH, TO START IN JUNE? WELL, YEAH, I THINK I WOULD BE PREPARED TO START IN JUNE, BUT I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T, UNLESS EVERYTHING IS SET IN STONE, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SAY THAT I'M READY TO GO THE FIRST WEEKEND OF JUNE.
UH, I WOULD JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE CONTRACT OR ANY OF THOSE THINGS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS SET IN PLACE AND EVERYBODY'S SATISFIED WITH WHAT IS EXPECTED.
SO MAYBE YOU COULD EXPLAIN TO US
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SEEING THAT YOU, YOU SAW THE SITE, WHAT YOU WOULD ENVISION THERE, WHAT YOU WOULD BRING TO IT, HOW YOU WOULD MAKE IT YOUR, YOUR OWN FARMER'S MARKET.WELL, I WOULD ENVISION, UH, YOU KNOW, DEFINITELY FRUITS AND VEGETABLES WOULD BE THE NUMBER ONE THING.
'CAUSE THERE IS NO FARMER'S MARKET WITHOUT THAT.
AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT THE GENTLEMAN HAD A, A FERMENTED VEGETABLE PICKLE PERSON THERE.
HE HAD A PIE PERSON THERE AND HE HAD A BREAD PERSON THERE, UM, IS WHAT HE TOLD ME.
SO, UH, THIS SPACE IS NOT NECESSARILY CONDUCIVE TO A HUGE FARMER'S MARKET, BUT IT WOULD, I THINK MY, MY, WHAT I WOULD ENVISION IS, IS TO HAVE A FAA FARM STAND THERE WITH MOSTLY FRUITS AND VEGETABLES AND THEN PERHAPS SOME ADDIT ADDITIONAL STUFF.
CAN YOU FIND THAT PEOPLE CAN, SORRY, CAN YOU FIND VENDORS AT THIS LATE DATE FOR OTHER PRODUCT PRODUCTS OR PRODUCTS? I MEAN, I, ANYTHING IS A POSSIBILITY.
OF COURSE, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT AT THIS TIME OF YEAR.
SO I THINK WHAT I, WHAT THE WAY I WOULD APPROACH THIS IS JUST TO, JUST TO GET ROLLING, START SETTING UP.
AND THEN ONCE THE MARKET GETS GOING AND YOU EVENTUALLY GATHER INTEREST, IF FOR THE VENDORS THAT ARE MISSING THAT ARE NOT ABLE TO, THAT WE'RE NOT ABLE TO CONFIRM THAT THEY WERE THERE BEFORE.
SO THIS YEAR WOULD BE AN INTRODUCTION FOR, FOR A COMPLETE, FOR A FARMER'S MARKET.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF.
IS TO HAVE PRODUCE IS YOU HAVE YOUR DAIRY, EGGS AND CHEESE AND YOUR MEATS MM-HMM
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, ANYTHING ELSE IS JUST ACCESSORIES BASICALLY.
BUT THOSE ARE THE BASIC THINGS THAT NEED TO BE COVERED.
RECENTLY, THE BAKERY IN HARTSDALE CLOSED, SO THAT'S A NICHE THAT COULD BE FILLED.
IF THERE'S LIKE A BREAD PERSON AND MUFFINS, WHATEVER, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO HAVE THAT.
SO, UM, I WOULD THINK PROBABLY GRAB AND GO STUFF, CROISSANTS, MUFFINS, THAT'S PART OF, UH, WHAT I ACTUALLY, UH, SELL AT CERTAIN STALLS AT MARKETS.
UM, SO THAT COULD DEFINITELY VERY EASILY BE FILLED.
I, I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE SOME BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUT OF BUSINESS NOW ON EAST DALE AVENUE AND, UM, GARRETT AND I, WE, UH, ARE WORKING WITH SOME RESIDENTS TRYING TO REVITALIZE, UH, EAST DALE AVENUE AND UH, GENERATE MORE BUZZ.
AND THE HART SALE FARMERS MARKET IS OVER 30 YEARS OLD.
SO I THINK WE WERE THE FIRST FARMER'S MARKET IN THE WHOLE COUNTY.
SO IT WOULD BE A BIG LOSS TO, UH, THE AVENUE IF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE HAD NO MARKET.
AND, UH, THE NICE THING IS, UH, YOU'RE, UH, YOU HAVE THE EXPERIENCE AND YOU, YOU'RE A FARMER AND YOU'VE DONE THIS IN OTHER COMMUNITIES.
SO I THINK THIS YOU'D BE PROVIDING US WITH A GREAT SERVICE AND I THINK PEOPLE WILL REALLY APPRECIATE, APPRECIATE IT.
I THINK WE CAN AGREE ON THAT AND THIS, AND I THINK UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES EVERYONE WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT LIMITED JUST THIS YEAR, BUT IT'S AN INTRODUCTION, SO I WAS JUST, YEAH, AND, AND, AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CRITICAL THAT THERE'S NOTHING MAKE MISSED IN THE, IN TERMS OF THE WHEAT.
I MEAN, IF IT'S A 30 YEAR FARMER'S MARKET, I THINK THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NOT THAT MANY FARMER'S MARKET THAT'S BEEN AROUND FOR THAT LONG.
I THINK PEAK SKILL IS ONE OF 'EM IN WESTCHESTER.
I'M NOT PARTICULARLY SURE ABOUT THE OTHER ONES I KNOW IN OR, I MEAN, I KNOW IN ROCKLAND IT'S NIAG THAT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 30 YEARS.
BUT, UM, WHAT I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO SAY, I THINK WHAT IS MORE ESSENTIAL, APOLOGIZE MY DOG, EXCUSE ME,
UM, IS THAT PERHAPS IF WE CAN'T MAKE IT ALL CERTAINLY COME TOGETHER BY THE START DATE, I THINK IT'S MORE IMPORTANT THAT MAYBE THAT WE DELAY THE OPENING OF THE JUNE 1ST DATE AND JUST ONCE WE HAVE EVERYTHING GATHERED TOGETHER THAT IT IS COMPLETELY OPEN AND THEN, THEN WE DON'T MISS A YEAR.
SO WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, SO I GUESS THE QUESTION I WAS TRYING TO ASK TO YOU SUPERVISOR, FINER, YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU AND KRISTA REACH OUT TO OTHER FARMER'S MARKET AND, AND JOEY, THIS IS NOTHING AGAINST YOU.
ARE THERE OTHER YEAH, SURE, TOTALLY.
IS THERE OTHER INTERESTS THAT WE HAVE THAT PEOPLE REACHED OUT? I THINK JOEY IS JOEY THE ONLY INTEREST.
I RECEIVED TWO, TWO EMAILS AND I CHECKED BACK AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, PLEASE GIMME A CALL AND I'D LIKE TO DISCUSS FURTHER.
AND I ACTUALLY DID NOT, UM, RECEIVE ANY CALL OR EMAIL BACK.
UM, I'M SORRY I CAN'T GET RID OF HIM.
UH, IN TERMS OF MAINTAINING THE CONTINUITY OF THE 30 YEARS, EVEN IF YOU DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING IN PLACE, CAN YOU GET A PRODUCE STAND OUT THERE STARTING JUNE? WELL, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT I SAY.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS SET UP BEFORE RED.
IF IT'S, IF IT'S A WEEK OR TWO OR FOUR WEEKS DELAYED IS, BUT YEAH, THAT'S THAT.
I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS THAT IT, WHEN IT'S READY, IT'S READY.
AND NOT TO START OFF IN A WAY THAT IS, WE ARE MISSING A CERTAIN PROCESS.
UH, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM IF THERE'S LIKE A WEEK OR TWO OR THREE WEEKS, YOU KNOW, DELAY.
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THE GOAL IS TO GET THIS LONG TERM, NOT, NOT HAVE SHORT TERM AND TO MAKE A GOOD POSITIVE IMPRESSION.THEN THE TOWN COULD HELP PUBLICIZE THE OPENING OF, UH, THE FARMER'S MARKET.
I ALSO, WHEN YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT HAVE WE REACHED OUT TO OTHERS, UM, I HAD ALSO SPOKEN TO COLBY, YOU KNOW, UH, JENKINS BECAUSE SHE HAS A FARMER'S MARKET IN, IN FAIRVIEW.
BUT UH, HERS MARKET IS NOT REALLY ONLY FARMERS.
THEN I WAS SORT OF THINKING THAT YOU HAVE ON SUNDAYS, BICYCLE SUNDAYS, AND IF SHE WANTED TO, UH, HAVE LIKE A, A MARKET, YOU KNOW, WITH THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT SHE DOES ANOTHER, WELL, LET'S CONCENTRATE ON, I'M JUST SAYING WE COULD HAVE A REAL FARMER'S MARKET.
OH, YOU THINK JOEY'S GONNA HAVE A FARMER'S MARKET AT THE, I'M CONFUSED.
NO, HE WAS GOING OFF TO ANOTHER DIRECTION.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU WHAT? I THOUGHT YOU WAS SAYING HE WAS GONNA HAVE THE FARMER'S MARKET AT THE, AT THE BICYCLING THING.
SO HE WOULD HAVE THE FARMER'S MARKET DON'T ON SATURDAY.
AND THEN I SUGGESTED THAT MAYBE WE DO SOMETHING ON SUNDAY THAT WOULD BE JUST A OKAY.
BUT WE, LET'S NOT GO THERE NOW.
UM, IF I MAY JOEY HELP COUNCILWOMAN, COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS, I'M SORRY, TOWN CLERK, UM, IF I MAY, EXCUSE ME.
UM, SUPERVISOR FINDER ALSO ASKED ME, SO WHAT I DID WAS, UM, I HAD REACHED OUT TO COMMISSIONER BASS FROM WHITE PLAINS, UM, PARKS AND REC, AND HE GAVE ME A FEW NAMES, UM, THAT WAS INTERESTED BUT NOT BEING A OPERATOR, BUT ALSO BE A VENDOR.
SO I CAN GIVE THOSE NAMES, UM, TO YOU OR MAKE CONTACT WHATEVER, TO, SO THERE IS CONTINUITY LIKE COUNCILWOMAN HABER SAID.
UM, AND THEY, THEY KNEW THAT WHAT DAY IT'S GOING TO BE, SO AND HOW SOON IT WAS GOING TO BE.
UM, SO THAT MAY HELP WITH THE, UM, THE CONTINUITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO DELAY.
SO I'D BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU, GIVE YOU THOSE NAMES, AND THEN YOU CAN WORK OUT THE LOGISTICS IF THAT WOULD HELP.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL, JOE? WHEN WILL, WHEN WILL THERE BE A CONTRACT? WHEN WILL THERE BE A CONTRACT? CONTRACT? CONTRACT? SO I, I HAD SENT A RIGHT DRAFT, WE SENT THE DRAFT TO JOE.
SO JOE, UM, I WANT YOU THINK ABOUT EVERYTHING WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT AND KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S A CONNECTION THAT EVERYONE HERE WANTS YOU TO SUCCEED.
AND AS MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A SUPPORT NETWORK WITH OTHER VENDORS IF YOU NEED THEM.
AND, UM, COUNCIL MACHINE AS FAR AS THE CONTRACT, WE'LL, UH, WORK WITH JOE.
JOE IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS MYSELF, UH, SOMEONE FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE CAN ASSIST.
AND UM, I IMAGINE WE'LL MAKE HEADWAY OVER THAT IN THE NEXT MONTH.
THAT'S BEEN EXTREMELY HELPFUL.
YOU KNOW, LIKE HE'S, HE'S THE POINT OF CONTACT, HE'S BEEN IMMEDIATELY ANSWERING TO ME AND I COULD SEE THAT HE REALLY WANTED TO GET DONE AND I MET MR. FINER AS WELL.
SO THERE'S NOTHING BUT POSITIVE THING THERE, GARY.
YEAH, GARY HAS A HABIT OF DOING THAT.
AND, UH, WE'LL HOPE TO HAVE A GOOD UPDATE, YOU KNOW, I'D SAY IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR LONG TERM, YOU KNOW.
GET THROUGH THIS OTHER BUT ALSO LONG TERM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN, WELL I WOULDN'T THAT DO IT.
I WOULDN'T, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I'M SORRY TO CUT YOU OFF, SIR, BUT I WOULD INTEND TO DO IT LONG TERM IF I DEVELOP IT.
'CAUSE THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT IT WON'T BE THE SAME FOR FIRST YEAR, YOU KNOW, SO I WOULD NEVER NEED TO DO IT LONG TERM.
I THINK THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
SO WE AVERAGE 30, WE AVERAGE 30 YEAR CONTRACTS AND COMMIT
I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE EVER SIGNED A CONTRACT THAT LONG BECAUSE I JUST WANTED A GENTLEMAN IN THE AUDIENCE WHO DOESN'T NECESSARILY AGREE WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
I'M REALLY THRILLED THAT YOU'RE UH, UH, WILLING TO TAKE THIS ON AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL WORK REALLY HARD TO MAKE IT A SUCCESS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S SUCH A GREAT LOCATION AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A LOYAL CLIENTELE OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOVED THE FARMER'S MARKET EVERY TIME I'M IN HARTSDALE.
THERE'S ALWAYS LINES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS.
WE ARE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION.
NO, I HAVE TWO QUICK QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMISSIONER.
ONE IS, ARE WE CON, ARE WE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT THE WESTDALE MARK WEST HEART SALE MARKET IS NEVER COMING BACK AGAIN? IS THIS A ONE-OFF THAT THEY COULDN'T DO IT THIS YEAR OR ARE THEY NO, THEY JUST, SO THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN DOING IT EVER AGAIN.
YOU'RE SURE OF THAT? WHY, WHY, WHY ARE YOU ASKING HIM? BECAUSE IF HE'S PLANNING TO DO IT LONG TERM, THEN THEY TELL US THEY'RE COME BACK NEXT YEAR.
NO, IT WAS CONTRACT, BUT, BUT IT'S BY CONTRACT.
NO, BUT I, I MEAN THEY'VE DONE IT FOR SO LONG.
I'M JUST ASKING, ASKING WHAT THEIR INTENTION IS.
NO, I DID NOT GET THE SENSE THAT, UM, THIS IS A ONE YEAR THING.
AND THE OTHER JUST QUICK THING IS THAT I JUST WANT HIM TO, OR WE WANT HIM TO UNDERSTAND THAT EVEN IF HE DOESN'T HAVE THIS VENDOR, THAT VENDOR OR WHATEVER, JUST START WITH THE BASIC AND, AND GET THAT UP AND RUNNING, WHATEVER, LIKE YOU WERE SAYING, ADD ON, IT'S A WORK IN PROGRESS.
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YOU WANT THAT CONTINUITY.PEOPLE LOVE TO HAVING THE MARKET FROM JUNE, ONCE JUNE HITS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER.
SO THE NEXT TOPIC IS THE CLIMATE CHANGE PROPERTY TAX ASSESSMENT RELIEF ACT.
SO THIS WAS AN INITIATIVE RECENTLY PASSED BY THE STATE, WHICH THANK YOU.
EDEDIE MCCARTHY, THE ASSESSOR, SHE REALLY HELPED PUSH THAT THROUGH FOR THE WHOLE STATE, NOT JUST FOR GREENBERG.
AND WHAT THAT ENTAILS IS WHEN IS THERE IS A NATURAL DISASTER, WHETHER THAT BE STATEWIDE OR A LOCAL DISASTER, THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES CAN PASS A LOCAL OPTION TO ALLOW FOR ASSESSMENT RELIEF FOR THOSE PROPERTIES.
TYPICALLY WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH RAIL PROPERTY TAX, LAW TAX, TERTIARIES, YOU'RE ONLY MOVING FORWARD.
YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE TAXES THAT ARE COMING UP.
UM, HOWEVER, THIS LAW ALLOWS THIS MUNICIPALITY, THE TOWN AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES TO GO BACK ALL THE WAY TO 2020.
SO THE HURRICANES WE HAD IN THE PAST, THE DISASTERS WE HAD IN THE PAST, UM, I'M CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE ED, THE ASSESSOR, TO PUT THE LAW IN ITS FIRST DRAFT FORM, BUT WHICH WILL ALSO HAVE OPTIONS FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO MAKE DETERMINATIONS ON.
UM, I LIKE THE WAY THE STATE PUT THIS TOGETHER IN A WAY THAT YOU COULD REALLY DRAFT A LAW FOR YOUR MUNICIPALITY AND NOT GET STUCK WITH SOME STANDARDIZED AGREEMENT THAT MAY NOT WORK FOR YOU.
UM, SO I EXPECT THAT TO HAVE THAT TO YOU WITHIN ABOUT TWO WEEKS OR SO.
AND THEN I WAS PLANNING ON PUTTING IT ON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING.
IF IT IS IN PLACE AND YOU HAVE MADE YOUR DECISIONS FOR THE SECOND APRIL DATE, UM, APRIL TOWN BOARD MEETING, COULD WE HAVE SCHEDULED A PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE LIKE, UH, NO.
ANY, ANY EARLIER THE PEOPLE WOULD NOT HAVE THE DRAFT AND WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY READ IT? NO.
WE SCHEDULED IT LIKE SAY TOMORROW FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL.
WE CAN'T SCHEDULE SOMETHING WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A DOCUMENT.
AND WON'T DELAY IT TO PUT IT ON THE APRIL 9TH MEETING TO SCHEDULE IT FOR THE SECOND MEETING IN APRIL.
YOU GET INTO A DANGEROUS TERRITORY WHERE THEN THE LAW IS NOT DONE.
AND RIGHT WHEN THERE ARE OPTIONS HERE, THERE ARE ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT YOU'LL HAVE TO MAKE YOUR DECISION ON.
IT WOULD BE CONFUSING FOR THE RESIDENTS COMING UP AND NOT KNOWING SPECIFICALLY WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE.
SO I'LL HAVE A FIRST DRAFT TO YOU SOON.
THANK YOU SO MUCH AS TO MOVE ALONG, UM, WESTCHESTER POWER RENEWAL PLAN.
AND WE HAVE OUR GUEST, MR. BRANSON.
UH, SO, UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU.
DO I NEED TO PUSH THIS ALREADY? YES, MAKE A GREEN.
WELL, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR HAVING ME BACK.
PLEASURE TO BE WITH YOU ONCE MORE.
I NEED TO APOLOGIZE FOR THE INFORMALITY OF MY ATTIRE.
LEARNED ABOUT THE MEETING AROUND MIDDAY AND DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO RETURN HOME, UH, AND CHANGE BEFORE BEING WITH YOU.
GINA, I SAW YOUR JEANS WHEN YOU GOT UP AND MADE ME FEEL A LOT BETTER.
YOU JUST ADDED HER PROFESSIONAL.
I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GETTING A NEW CONTRACT.
YOU NEED ME TO VOTE ON SOMETHING, PUT MY FOOT IN MY MOUTH.
SO, AND EVEN WORSE, SEEING YOUR PRIOR PRESENTER.
I DON'T HAVE A DOG WITH ME SO MANY STRIKES AGAINST.
I ALSO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT WEARING A TIE TOO.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL IN GOOD COMPANY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE ALL, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
UM, SO, UH, REALLY AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK.
THANK YOU FOR, UM, ACCOMMODATING, UM, UH, THE TIMING ISSUES THAT I KNOW HAVE BEEN SHARED WITH YOU AND THAT, UH, I CAN ELABORATE ON A LITTLE BIT IN, IN THIS CONVERSATION.
UM, I WANNA SAY AT THE OUTSET, I DO HAVE A, A COMPLETE PRESENTATION, HISTORY CONTEXT, METRICS, GOALS.
UH, AND IF IT IS YOUR DESIRE FOR ME TO GO THROUGH THAT ENTIRE PRESENTATION, I, I CERTAINLY CAN, BUT MY SUSPICION IS FIVE MINUTES, RIGHT? YEAH, YEAH.
MY SUSPICION IS BECAUSE WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION SO RECENTLY, YOU PROBABLY HAVE A GRASP OF ALL THOSE THINGS AND THEREFORE I CAN JUST CUT RIGHT TO THE CHASE.
BUT IF YOU GIVE, SEND US A PRESENTATION THAT WE CAN PUT ONLINE.
UM, AND OBVIOUSLY, AND OBVIOUSLY IF, IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS THAT I DON'T COVER, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THIS CONVERSATION IS FOR.
SO LET ME, UM, LET ME JUST SCREEN SHARE.
SO, UM, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT, UH, THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, UH, I WAS IN THE, UH, UNENVIABLE POSITION OF HAVING TO EXPLAIN WHY THE PRIOR CONTRACT, UH, WAS NOT REALLY PERFORMING TO EXPECTATIONS FROM A, A PRICE PERSPECTIVE.
AND ALTHOUGH THERE WERE LOGICAL AND UNDERSTANDABLE REASONS FOR IT RELATING TO THE SPECIFIC TIMING WHEN IT WAS CONCLUDED, THERE'S NO DENYING IT WAS AN UNCOMFORTABLE CIRCUMSTANCE FOR EVERYONE INVOLVED.
IT WAS UNCOMFORTABLE FOR US SUSTAINABLE.
WESTCHESTER, I KNOW DIFFICULT FOR YOU AS MUNICIPAL LEADERS WHO HAD STOOD BY THE PROGRAM AND CERTAINLY DIFFICULT FOR MANY OF THE PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS, UH, IN THE COMMUNITY.
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TO SAY THAT THE RATE PERFORMANCE OF THE CURRENT CONTRACT HAS BEEN CONSIDERABLY BETTER.UH, ROUGHLY IN LINE WITH WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM THE UTILITY YOU CAN SEE DISPLAYED THERE.
UH, THE NUMBERS, THE, THE KIND OF BASE RATE THAT'S BEFORE RENEWABLE ENERGY CERTIFICATES FOR WESTCHESTER POWER, A LITTLE OVER 11 CENTS.
AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, THE COMPARABLE JANUARY AND FEBRUARY RATES FOR CONED.
WE'RE STILL RATING ON THE, THE TOTAL, UH, MARCH RATE, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T EXPECT IT'S GONNA BE SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT.
A POWERFUL VISUAL REPRESENTATION THAT WE'RE TALKING APPLES TO APPLES RIGHT THERE.
UM, THE ACTUAL RATE EXPERIENCED BY PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS IS A LITTLE BIT HIGHER BECAUSE THAT IS THE RENEWABLE ENERGY CERTIFICATE.
IT'S THE PREMIUM THAT WE'RE PAYING FOR, UH, CLEAN POWER, WHICH IS THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF THE PROGRAM IF MEMORY SERVES 50% AS THE DEFAULT, UH, IN GREENBURG MM-HMM
SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE IT'S, UM, UH, JUST A LITTLE OVER 12 CENTS, WHICH AGAIN, IS, IS JUST BELOW WHAT IT WAS, UH, UH, IN JANUARY AND FEBRUARY OF THIS YEAR.
SO, UH, AGAIN, IN LINE WITH, UH, WITH THE UTILITY RATES, BUT WITH THE CONSIDERABLE ADDED BENEFIT OF BEING CLEAN POWER MM-HMM
UM, AND, UH, THIS, WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING NOW IS FAR MORE CONSISTENT WITH THE HISTORICAL PERFORMANCE OF THE PROGRAM THAN THE OUTLIER OF THE PRIOR CONTRACT, WHICH YOU SEE DISPLAYED HERE.
THIS IS A CHART THAT YOU SAW LAST TIME.
YOU COULD SEE THAT THE YEARS WE, WE'VE BEEN AHEAD OF THE UTILITY, THE YEARS WHEN WE'VE BEEN BEHIND THE UTILITY HAVE ROUGHLY BALANCED OUT.
UM, AND IMPORTANTLY, UH, WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY HAD A LOWER RATE FOR RENEWABLE ENERGY THAN WHAT WOULD OTHERWISE BE AVAILABLE THROUGH A PRIVATE ESCO, WHICH WOULD BE THE ONLY ALTERNATIVE THAT YOUR RESIDENTS WOULD HAVE IF WESTCHESTER POWER WERE NOT IN PLACE.
UM, SO THAT IS ANOTHER THING TO, TO BEAR IN MIND.
UM, SO, UH, ALL THAT SAID, WHAT ARE WE, UH, REQUESTING OF YOU AND SUGGESTING OF YOU? UM, BECAUSE WE CAME TO YOU SO RECENTLY, BECAUSE THE CURRENT CONTRACT RUNS THROUGH THE END OF NOVEMBER AND, AND WILL NOT BE ABROGATED, THE NEW CONTRACT WON'T START UNTIL DECEMBER 1ST.
ORDINARILY WE'D WAIT A FEW MORE MONTHS BEFORE, UH, COMING BACK.
WE DON'T WANNA OVERBURDEN YOU WITH CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE SAME PROGRAM OVER AND OVER.
UH, BUT WE'VE DECIDED TO TRY AND ACCELERATE THE PROCESS THIS YEAR, UH, FOR A FEW REASONS.
ONE OF THOSE REASONS IS NOT RELATED TO THE PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCES WE'RE FACING AT THIS MOMENT, BUT IS REALLY PERHAPS A BEST PRACTICE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE OBSERVED ALL ALONG.
UM, WHEN WE WAIT UNTIL LONGER IN THE CONTRACT CYCLE, WE ARE IN EFFECT LIMITING THE WINDOW OF TIME WITHIN WHICH WE CAN MAKE OUR ENERGY PURCHASE, WHICH IS A BIT OF A ROLL OF THE DICE.
BECAUSE IF YOU HAPPEN TO BE GETTING A SPIKE IN ENERGY MARKETS JUST WITHIN THAT WINDOW, THEN IT CAN RESULT IN A HIGHER PRICE THAN YOU WOULD LIKE.
AND THEREFORE HAVING A, A BIGGER WINDOW OF TIME, A LONGER RUNWAY, WHATEVER METAPHOR YOU WANNA USE, GIVES US A CHANCE TO EVALUATE MARKET CONDITIONS IN CONCERT WITH THE, THE MARKET PROFESSIONALS AND CONSULTANTS WHO ADVISE US AND TRY TO BE SORT OF OPPORTUNISTIC ABOUT PICKING THE MOMENT WHEN WE THINK THE RATE IS MOST FAVORABLE.
UH, RELATED TO THAT, UM, THIS ALSO GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT ARE CALLED THE SHOULDER MONTHS BEFORE THE SUMMER SEASON WHEN THERE'S ADDITIONAL ENERGY DEMAND AND ENERGY PRICES TEND TO GO UP NOW, IN THEORY, A LONG-TERM CONTRACT THAT SHOULD NOT BE RELEVANT TO IT BECAUSE THE SEASONALITY SHOULD BE BUILT INTO THE LONG-TERM RATE, AND MAYBE THAT'LL BE THE CASE.
BUT MARKETS BEING WHAT THEY ARE AND PSYCHOLOGY BEING WHAT IT IS, AT LEAST HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE CONDITIONS DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS RATHER THE THE SHOULDER MONTHS BEFORE THE SUMMER, WE THINK MIGHT BE HELPFUL IN TERMS OF DELIVERING THE BEST RATE POSSIBLE.
THE ADDITIONAL FACTOR DOES RELATE TO THE CIRCUMSTANCES WE'RE CONFRONTING AT THIS MOMENT.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S A PARTISAN STATEMENT TO SAY THAT THERE'S SOME DEGREE OF TURBULENCE AND UNCERTAINTY, UH, WITH RESPECT TO NATIONAL AND INTERNATIONAL MARKETS, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO ENERGY.
UH, THE POSSIBILITY OF TARIFFS BEING IMPOSED ON ENERGY IMPORTS AND OTHER IMPORTS FROM CANADA.
TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN GET AHEAD OF THAT AND KIND OF HAVE A SAFE HARBOR BUILT INTO OUR RATE, WE THINK AGAIN, IT MIGHT BE ADVANTAGEOUS.
SO, UM, I ALWAYS WANNA BE CAUTIOUS IN PROJECTIONS, AS I'VE SAID BEFORE, AND AS I KNOW YOU'VE HEARD FROM OTHER REPRESENTATIVES OF THE PROGRAM, WE CANNOT GUARANTEE ANY PARTICULAR RATE.
THERE'S A PROCESS THROUGH WHICH, UH, BIDS ARE OBTAINED, NOR CAN WE KNOW WITH CERTAINTY WHAT THE VARIABLE UTILITY RATE WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.
ALL WE CAN DO IS MAKE LOGICAL PROJECTIONS BASED ON THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO US, BASED ON COMMON SENSE.
AND SO PUTTING ALL THAT TOGETHER, WE THINK THAT ACTING AS YOUR AGENTS TRYING TO DELIVER THE BEST POSSIBLE PRODUCT TO YOUR RESIDENTS AND YOUR SMALL BUSINESSES, IF YOU GIVE US MORE TIME IN WHICH TO DO IT, IF YOU ENABLE US TO START EARLIER,
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WE THINK THERE'S A BETTER CHANCE OF US BEING ABLE TO GET COMBUSTIBLE.THERE'S NO COMMITMENT, UH, ON THE PART OF THE TOWN.
SO IF IT TURNS OUT THAT THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S A REALLY BAD RATE OR SOMETHING, THEN WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO THEN DECIDE.
IIII IT'S A COMMITMENT LIKE ANY TIME.
LIKE ANY, IT'S A CONTRACT TO SIGN THE CONTRACT.
IT, IT IS ANALOGOUS TO EXACTLY WHAT YOU WOULD DO LATER IN THE CYCLE.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU FOR ANYTHING DIFFERENT.
WE'RE, WE'RE SIMPLY ASKING FOR, FOR YOU TO DO IT A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
AND AGAIN, BECAUSE WE THINK THERE'S A BETTER PROBABILITY OF GETTING A GOOD AND WE HAVE SAVING MONEY.
SO YOU MENTIONED, YOU MENTIONED, I MAKE SURE I REPEAT IT CORRECTLY.
SO YOU SAID THAT FOR THE SHOULDER WHEN YOU WANNA DO IT DURING THE SHOULDER MONTHS, MAYBE MAY.
SO WE PUT THAT MAYBE BEFORE THE, THE SPIKING MONTHS, WHICH IS THE SUMMERTIME MM-HMM
SO WHERE'S THE COMPARISON TO SEE IF WE'RE GETTING A GOOD RATE? BECAUSE THAT IS WHEN, THAT IS, WHEN PRICES ARE INCREASING THE SUMMER MONTHS.
YOU'RE ASKING US TO MAKE A DECISION PRIOR TO REALLY SEEING WHAT THE IMPACT IS GOING TO BE DURING THE HIGHEST, HIGHEST USAGE MONTH, MONTHS, UH, UNDERSTOOD.
UM, AND I WOULD SAY ONLY THAT IF WE DO THAT AND WAIT, THEN THE OPTIONALITY IS GONE.
SO IT'S LIKE WHATEVER BET YOU'VE MADE, YOU'RE STUCK WITH THAT RATE AT THAT MOMENT.
UM, AND UH, BY DOING IT EARLIER, THERE'S UH, AN OPPORTUNITY TO PICK AND CHOOSE BASED ON CIRCUMSTANCES.
UM, AND TO SOME EXTENT, UH, GINA, YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT.
THE, THE, THE, WELL, I MEAN THE, THE NATURE OF THE PROGRAM IS SUCH THAT YOU'RE PUTTING YOUR FAITH IN OUR TEAM TO TRY TO MAKE GOOD JUDGEMENTS ON YOUR BEHALF.
AND ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS WE DO CONSULT WITH THE FOREMOST EXPERTS IN THE STATE WHOSE JOB IT IS TO EVALUATE ENERGY MARKETS, CONSIDER WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
WE'RE CONSTANTLY MONITORING INDICATIVES, WHICH IS SORT OF PRICE INDICATORS OF WHERE THINGS ARE GOING.
SO WE THINK WE ARE IN A GOOD POSITION TO SERVE YOU WELL, AND FOR THE GREAT MAJORITY OF THE PROGRAM'S HISTORY, I THINK WE HAVE SERVED YOU WELL.
THIS JUSTICE GIVES US A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY SO THAT WE'RE NOT LOCKED INTO A VERY TIGHT TIMEFRAME, WHICH MAY IN THE END NOT WE DOWN TO YOUR BENEFIT.
AND BECAUSE THERE SO MANY UNKNOWNS GOING FORWARD THAT WITH THE PROMISE OF SOME UPHEAVAL IN PRICING.
BUT THERE'S A CONCERN BECAUSE NORM, I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH.
I HAVE TO, WE ARE VERY CONCERNED OF WHAT, OF OUR RESIDENTS WHO'VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE CONTRACT.
CAN WE GO BACK TWO YEARS AGO? SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, AGAIN, I'VE ALREADY EXPRESSED I'M REALLY CONCERNED MAKING A DECISION ON DATA THAT WE NEED.
WE NEED TO REALLY SEE WHEN THAT SPIKE IS THERE REALLY GONNA BE A BENEFIT? IS IT REALLY GONNA BE A BENEFIT? MM-HMM
CAN WE GO BACK TO THE HISTORY, JESS, THAT YOU HAD BEFORE YOU SAY, JUST TO WHAT, ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? SO IT'S TRUE, WE HAVEN'T, SO THIS IS SORT OF LIKE OUR, BEEN OUR, LIKE OUR TEST YEAR AFTER THE HIGH RATES.
SO TO NOT GO THROUGH THAT YEAR, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, THE HIGHEST, YOU KNOW, MONTHS HAVE YET TO COME MM-HMM
SO WE'RE NOT HAVING A COMPARISON THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GIVES US THAT SORT OF ASSURANCE.
I UNDERSTAND WHY YOU'RE TRYING TO DO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO MM-HMM
BUT IT WOULD, IT WOULD BE IDEAL TO HAVE THE YEAR TO ASSESS AND THEN MAKE THE DECISION.
BUT I DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, HAVE TO BE MY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS CONCERNED ABOUT, THE COMPETITIVE RENEWABLE RATES THAT GIVE US THE HISTORY FROM 2016 THROUGH 2024.
AND IF, IF, UM, MR. RAMSON CAN GO THROUGH THAT, THAT MIGHT GIVE US THAT SENSE OF WHERE WE ARE.
SO, UH, AND AS YOU CAN SEE, THE, THE HISTORY OF THE PROGRAM FOR, FOR MOST OF ITS DURATION HAS BEEN RATES THAT ARE ROUGHLY IN LINE WITH THE UTILITY.
SOMETIMES BETTER, SOMETIMES WORSE, BUT, BUT HARDLY EVER VARYING SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, THE, THE 20 23 20 24 EXPERIENCE REALLY DOES STAND OUT AS, AS A SIGNIFICANT OUTLIER, UM, AGAIN, WITH, WITH A SPECIFIC REASON FOR THAT.
UM, BUT ONE THAT I THINK IS, HAS NOT BEEN, UM, HAS NOT BEEN THE TYPICAL EXPERIENCE FOR PEOPLE INVOLVED IN IT.
AND I, I, AND I JUST TO BACK UP AND REMIND OURSELVES ABOUT THE BASIC PROGRAM STRUCTURE, IT'S ALWAYS THE CASE THAT PEOPLE CAN LEAVE THE PROGRAM IF THEY DON'T WANT TO BE A PART OF IT.
AND I THINK GREENBERG HAS BEEN PARTICULARLY EFFECTIVE AT SHARING INFORMATION WITH RESIDENTS.
WE'VE TRIED TO PARTNER WITH YOU IN ORDER TO ENHANCE THAT INFORMATION FLOW SO THAT PEOPLE ARE, UH, AWARE OF THEIR OPTIONS.
AND, AND ALSO KEEP IN MIND, THIS IS AN EXTRA CHOICE THAT'S AVAILABLE TO CONSUMERS THAT IS NOT OTHERWISE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
SO IF WESTCHESTER POWER'S GONE, WHAT'S LEFT IS THE UTILITY OR A PRIVATE ESCO, AND THAT'S IT.
UM, AND SO, UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT PEOPLE WANT RENEWABLE ENERGY, WHICH MANY PEOPLE DO, WE'VE CONSISTENTLY BEATEN THE PRIVATE MARKET.
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ON THAT.AND AGAIN, AT THIS MOMENT, THEY'RE SAVING MONEY RELATIVE TO THE UTILITY TOO.
SO IF THE PROGRAM DIDN'T EXIST, THEY'D BE LOCKED INTO THAT.
I WAS GONNA ALSO, YES, I'M SORRY.
I JUST WANTED JUST TO FINISH THAT OUT.
SO THE EIGHT YEAR AVERAGE, UM, IS $8 AND 24 CENTS FOR CONED $9 AND 66 CENTS FOR AN ESCO FOR OUR RENEWABLE RATE FOR RENEWABLE, EXCUSE ME.
IT'S, I MEAN, AND OF COURSE IF YOU ELIMINATED 2023 AND 2024, THE, THE AVERAGES WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
THEY, THEY, THEY'RE SO, THEY'RE SO EXTREME THAT THEY DISTORT THE OVERALL AVERAGE.
I, I WAS GONNA ALSO SUGGEST, BUT THAT'S INDICATIVE OF WHAT'S TODAY.
YEAH, I WAS JUST GONNA SUGGEST, BECAUSE I GOT AN EMAIL FROM SOMEBODY, UM, WHO WANTED TO COME BACK.
UM, AND I, AND OVER THE PAST, ESPECIALLY THE PAST TWO YEARS, THERE WERE, UH, UH, THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO OPTED OUT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT YOU MIGHT WANNA, UM, SEND OUT A LETTER TO EVERYBODY WHO OPTED IT OUT SAYING, WE JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, DURING THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS, UH, THE CON ED RATES HAVE BEEN HIGHER AND, UM, AND OUR, THE ESCO RATES ARE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, UH, DON'T FLUCTUATE.
SO THEY PRETTY MUCH STAY THE SAME.
UH, THE CON ED RATES DO FLUCTUATE.
SO THERE'S PROBABLY PEOPLE, UH, IF THEY SEE IN, IN AP MARCH AND APRIL THAT THE RATES ARE ACTUALLY MORE FAVORABLE.
PEOPLE MAY WANT TO COME, COME BACK TO YOU.
AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WOULD BE SORT OF LIKE, INTERESTING.
SO THAT'S A GOOD POINT THAT PAUL HAD THAT THE SUPERVISOR JUST RAISED.
SO WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING WESTCHESTER POWER? DOING WHAT? YEAH.
WHAT IS WESTCHESTER POWER DOING TO, FOR THOSE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT TO KIND OF COME BACK AND TRY TO GET THEM TO COME BACK ON AND, AND, AND COME BACK INTO, ARE YOU DOING ANY TYPE OF REACH OUT OUTREACH, RATHER? UH, THAT'S A INTERESTING POINT.
AND WE, NO, THE ANSWER IS NO, NOTHING SPECIFICALLY TARGETED THAT COMMUNITY.
SO IS THAT, IS THAT, SO LET ME JUST ASK YOU THIS, AND THEN, SO I, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE TOWN'S RESPONSIBILITY, GO AND REACH OUT BECAUSE YOU ARE SELLING THE SERVICE? I THINK, I THINK, AND HERE'S WHERE I WOULD NEED TO CONSULT WITH MY TEAM.
BUT I THINK ONCE SOMEONE IS DROPPED OUTTA THE PROGRAM, WE NO LONGER HOLD ONTO THEIR CONTACT DATA.
AND SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WOULD EVEN HAVE A MECHANISM FOR NECESSARILY REACHING OUT TO THAT POPULATION SPECIFICALLY.
LIKE THERE, THERE ARE REAL CONTROLS ON OUR USE OF DATA AND, UM, WE'RE ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE SORT OF KEEPING TRACK OF PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS.
SO ONCE SOMEONE KNOCKS OUT, UM, SO I, I, I WANNA DOUBLE CHECK THAT.
I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE OF THAT.
UH, BUT IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN YES, IT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE WOULD HAVE TO PARTNER WITH YOU BECAUSE YOUR COMMUNICATION VEHICLES ARE BROADER THAN OURS ARE.
ALL THE COMMUNITIES IN WESTCHESTER, THEY MAY WANNA SAY, LISTEN, THIS IS REALLY A, A, A FAVORABLE DEAL.
PLUS YOU'RE GETTING, LIKE, IN THE CASE OF GREENBERG, YOU'RE GETTING 50% RENEWABLE AND YOU'RE NOT GETTING 50% RENEW RENEWABLE WITH, UH, CLIENT ED.
SO PEOPLE ARE GETTING THE BA HELPING THE PLANET, AND AT THE SAME TIME GETTING LOWER RATES.
SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THAT'S ALL POSITIVE.
I, I'M GONNA RAISE JUST ONE CAUTIONARY NOTE, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE, WE'RE ALWAYS SORT OF CAREFUL ABOUT IT, THAT WE DON'T DO KNOW THAT THE RATES FLUCTUATE.
AND SO, UH, WE MAY BE DOING BETTER IN MARCH.
IT COULD BE IN APRIL, WE'RE A LITTLE BIT AHEAD.
WE'RE A LITTLE BIT BEHIND, WHICH IS WHY WE TEND TO FOCUS ON MESSAGES THAT ARE EVERGREEN.
UM, AND, AND THAT'S ABOUT THE RENEWABLE POWER, AS YOU JUST SAID, AND ABOUT CHOICE AND OPTIONALITY.
UM, BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THOSE THINGS ARE ALWAYS GONNA BE TRUE REGARDLESS OF WHAT MAY HAPPEN, UH, IN THE RATE MONTH TO MONTH.
BUT, BUT CERTAINLY, UH, IF, IF YOU WANTED TO PARTNER WITH US TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE MOST TIMELY FORM OF RATE COMPARISON, WHICH YOU'RE ALREADY DOING TO A GREAT DEGREE IN A SIGNIFICANT WAY, WE WE'RE HAPPY TO, WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU.
AND, AND MAYBE DURING THE HIGH RATE MONTHS OF, YOU KNOW, JULY AND AUGUST, FOR EXAMPLE, WE ARE MORE COMMUNICATIVE WITH PEOPLE.
LIKE, WE SENT A, YOU KNOW, WE SENT A THREE MONTH OUT, THREE THREE MONTH POSTCARD.
YOU KNOW, SOMETHING, I JUST GOT A A, A LETTER IN THE, IN THE MAIL THIS WEEK SAYING THAT THE RATES ARE GOING DOWN.
UH, THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING THAT.
SO THIS IS A, UH, IT'S, I'M NOT, IT'S NOT GONNA CHANGE THE WORLD.
IT'S A MINOR, UH, REDUCTION IN OUR RATE.
IT HAS TO DO WITH A STATE LEVEL CHANGE IN, UM, UH, TRANSMISSION CHARGES.
UH, YOU MAY REMEMBER THAT ACTUALLY WAS A YEAR AGO, YEAR AND A HALF AGO, WE HAD A SIMILAR THING IN WHICH THE RATE HAD TO GO UP SLIGHTLY.
SO, UH, YEAH, THE WHEEL TURNS AT THIS TIME, IT'S GOING DOWN A LITTLE BIT.
IT'S A, AT A POINT WHERE WE JOINTLY AGREE THAT THE, IT, IT'S A PROPITIOUS TIME FOR YOU TO COME BACK AND MAKE A PRESENTATION ON WORK SESSION FOR THE BROADER AUDIENCE WOULD BE HELPFUL.
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HAVING SOMETHING THAT WE CAN HAVE ONLINE SO THAT IT IS ACCESSIBLE FOR PEOPLE, PEOPLE THERE.AND AGAIN, I WILL GLADLY SHARE THE ENTIRE DECK, WHICH IS, UH, COMPREHENSIVE.
YOU'VE SEEN MOST OF IT BEFORE.
SOME OF IT IS NEW AND UPDATED, BUT, UM, WE WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO TELL THE STORY OF THE PROGRAM.
AND I JUST THINK THE TOWN, THE TOWN, AND I'LL, I'LL TALK TO, TO THE BOARD, I THINK THAT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS SURVEY OUR RESIDENTS TO SEE WHAT WE NEED, IF WE SHOULD GO FORWARD.
BECAUSE WE HAVE GOTTEN SO MANY COMMUNICATIONS THAT PEOPLE VERY UPSET OF WHERE, WHAT DIRECTION THIS WAS GOING INTO.
SO I THINK THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY, SINCE YOU'RE ASKING US TO EXPEDITE THE RENEWAL OF THIS CONTRACT, THAT WE GO OUT AND WE SERVE OUR RESIDENTS TO SEE, FOR THOSE WHO HAVE, WHO HAS, UM, SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER AND THOSE WHO DON'T, AND JUST SEE IF WE WANT TO GO FORWARD.
'CAUSE I THINK WE, THEY NEED TO MAKE THE DECISION.
WE SHOULDN'T MAKE THAT DECISION.
WELL, HAVE WE GOTTEN, UM, EMAILS, PEOPLE WHO, UH, IN THE PAST THREE MONTHS BEEN UNHAPPY? I MEAN, HAVE WE GOTTEN A LOT OF NO, THE, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I SHARE ALL THE EMAILS THAT I GET, UH, WITH YOU AND, UM, SOME PEOPLE JUST DON'T LIKE THE CONCEPT OF THE OPTING OUT, BUT IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME PEOPLE, AND THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE THE CONCEPT OF OPTING OUT ARE ALREADY OUT OF THE PRO OF IT.
SO THEY'RE NOT REALLY BEING IMPACTED.
AND RIGHT NOW, EVERYBODY ELSE SINCE YOU CAME ON, UM, HAS BEEN DOING, THE RATES ARE MORE FAVORABLE.
SO PEOPLE, PEOPLE ARE HAPPY THAT THE RATES ARE LOWER WITH ESCO THAN WITH, WITH CONES.
SO PEOPLE AREN'T, ARE NOT REALLY COMPLAINING.
AND I, YOU KNOW, MY FEELING IS I SORT OF, AND I'M JUST SAYING, YOU KNOW, I, I FEEL THAT, UH, SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER NOW HAS NEW MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, AND I THINK YOU'RE DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB.
AND I THINK YOU'RE REALLY, UM, BEEN PROACTIVE AND YOU'RE REACHING OUT TO THE, YOU'RE TRANSPARENT.
AND I FEEL THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT, UM, IF PEOPLE WANT COMPETITION, UH, THIS IS REAL.
WE HAVE A, A REALLY DECENT CHANCE OF PROVIDING THEM WITH COMPETITIVE RATES AND, AND GOOD SERVICE.
AND EVEN TOMORROW, SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER IS, UM, IS GIVING OUT FREE ENERGY SAVINGS KITS WORTH $80.
WE HAVE 50 PE WE HAVE A WAITING LIST.
WE HAVE 50 PEOPLE COMING HERE BETWEEN SIX 6:00 PM AND 7:00 PM.
SO THE FACT THAT, SO BY WORKING WITH SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER ON THIS, WE'RE ALSO ENABLING WORKING WITH YOUR ORGANIZATION ON OTHER, UM, EFFORTS TO, UM, HELP PEOPLE SAVE MONEY.
I, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA, WAS EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, I MEAN, AND APPRECIATE THAT.
I FORGOT TO READ WHAT YOU TOLD ME.
AND LET ME ADD BY THE WAY, I WALKED IN JUST AS YOU WERE DISCUSSING SOLAR ON YOUR TOWN PROPERTY, AND I REALLY APPLAUD YOU FOR TAKING A LEADERSHIP ROLE.
UH, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE ARE EAGERLY PROMOTE, AND I KNOW THAT LEO WEEDMAN FROM OUR TEAM HAS MM-HMM
CONSULTED WITH YOU IN THE PAST.
AND SO WE SEPARATE, AS YOU POINTED OUT, SEPARATE AND APART FROM THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM.
IT'S REALLY OUR HONOR TO WORK WITH YOU.
AND EVEN LIKE WITH LEO, WE WORKED WITH THEM, UM, FOR OVER A YEAR.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT THE SOLAR PANELS, THE CANOPIES, AND THE PARKING LOTS HERE, THE GOAL ISN'T REALLY JUST FOR THE TOWN HALL.
THE GOAL IS TO GET, UH, SOME OF THE OFFICE BUILDING COMPLEXES WITH LARGE PARKING LOTS TO DO THE SAME THING.
AND WE'RE LOOKING TO LEAD, LEAD BY EXAMPLE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT THE COUNCIL, UH, UH, UM, SUPERVISOR YES.
THE SUPERVISOR GOT TO THE MOTION YOU, TO THE COUNCIL PERSON.
WE JUST HAVE, WE HAVE PEOPLE COMING IN THAT WE HAVE TO MEET WITH.
I WAS JUST CURIOUS TO SEE, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WE NEED TO DO TONIGHT? UM, NO, NOTHING YOU NEED TO DO TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD SAY, AND THIS WAS INDICATED IN THE MESSAGING THAT WE MM-HMM
UH, WE DO NEED YOU TO ACT, YOU KNOW, BY LIKE THE MIDDLE OF MIDDLE OF APRIL.
UH, BECAUSE, AND, AND THE INDICATION WE'RE GETTING FROM MOST COMMUNITIES SO FAR IS FAVORABLE.
AND WE JUST DON'T WANNA LEAVE ANYONE BEHIND.
SO WE, WE HOPE WE CAN, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO SUPPORT IT, THAT'S THE TIMING THAT MAKES THE MOST SENSE.
ALWAYS, ALWAYS GOOD TO SEE YOU.
DON'T MEAN TO RUSH, DON'T MEAN TO.
AND, UH, AND I'M GONNA RECORD THIS SESSION AND BRING IT AROUND
IT'S ALREADY, IT'S ALREADY LISTED, SO YOU CAN GO RIGHT TO OUR WEBSITE.
OKAY, MR. BRANSON, UM, IF YOU CAN JUST ALSO REMEMBER TO SEND THAT, UH, PACKAGE THE, THE DECK TO TOWN CLERK WILL DO@GREENBERGNY.COM.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE ALSO, OKAY, SO GARRETT IS DOING THE A DU, YOU KNOW, THE, THE MAILING.
WE COULD DO SOMETHING ABOUT, WE COULD INCLUDE INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, THIS, UH, UH, IS THAT GOING TO EVERYBODY? IT'S GOING TO 9,000 PEOPLE.
IS IS THE A DU GOING TO EVERYBODY? I THINK, UH, NON, UH, PARTNERS.
SO NEED TO, WELL, WE CAN TALK ABOUT, WE CAN TALK, LET'S, WE CAN TALK ABOUT HOW WE CAN GET THAT, THAT, THAT SURVEY OUT.
I THINK RIGHT NOW WE'RE AT THE POINT OF THE AGENDA REVIEW, SO WE JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THAT TOMORROW WE WILL BE CELEBRATING WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
SO WE WILL BE RECOGNIZED SOME PHENOMENAL WOMEN IN THE COMMUNITY.
AND OUR THEME THIS YEAR IS SURROUNDING EDUCATION.
SO, UM, PLEASE, IF YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY
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TO PLEASE COME OUT AND, AND CELEBRATE WITH US.IF NOT, PLEASE COME AND JOIN US ONLINE.
BUT WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HIGHLIGHT, UM, VERY EXTRAORDINARY WOMEN THIS THIS YEAR.
AND, UM, UH, IN TERMS OF THE PROCLAMATIONS, UM, UH, WHO SHOULD BE PRESENTING THE PRO? YOU KNOW, WHO SHOULD BE, WHO SHOULD BE LIKE SING THE, UM, WE HAVE PROGRAM, DISCUSS THAT.
SO WE'RE DOING AN AGENDA REVIEW.
UH, REGARDING THE PRO, THE, THE, UH, PRESENTATIONS, THERE'S A LITTLE TYPO, WHICH IT SAYS SPELLING.
THAT WAS JUST A NOTE FOR HOLLY THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON HERE.
AND, UH, FOR SU I PUT SUSTAINABLE WESTCHESTER.
I'M GONNA TELL THEM THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE A CHOICE SINCE THEIR PROGRAM'S OVER AT SEVEN, THEY WANNA STAY AROUND.
THEY CAN'T, IF THEY DON'T WANNA STAY AROUND.
YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
SO I NOTICED, I NOTICED ON HERE, AND I JUST DON'T KNOW, JUST SO IT HAS ON HERE, UM, LIAISON REPORTS.
SO WE, THIS WEEK WE SAID WE WERE GONNA FOREGO THE LIAISON REPORTS BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE THE CELEBRATION OF WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH.
ARE WE? BECAUSE IT SAYS ON HERE, ON THE BOTTOM IT SAYS SUPERVISED AND TOWN COUNCIL REPORTS AND ANNOUNCEMENTS.
SO ARE WE FOREGOING? UM, I THINK WE AGREED TO DO THAT.
SO THAT, SO UH, OUR LIAISON REPORTS WILL BE TABLED AND WE WILL HAVE THEM AT THE NEXT, UM, TOWN BOARD MEETING, ALTHOUGH THERE'S REALLY, IT'S NOT A REAL LONG MEETING.
WELL, YEAH, BUT I THINK THAT THAT OKAY.
I THINK WE'VE BEEN VERY GOOD ABOUT REPORTING.
WHICH IS, SO I DON'T THINK IT'LL HURT US TO HAVE A LITTLE BREAK.
PO THREE AND PO O FOUR ARE BEING HELD OVER TO THE NEXT MEETING AND IT JUST INADVERTENTLY SAYS, UM, APRIL 8TH.
I BELIEVE THAT SHOULD BE CHANGED APRIL 9TH, SO RIGHT.
I JUST DON'T WANT PEOPLE THINKING IT'S ON A WORK SESSION.
PO THREE AND FOUR, WHICH ROOM WAS THAT? PO THREE AND PO FOUR.
JUST NEEDS TO BE ADDED TO THE NEXT DAY.
YOU'RE SAYING YES FOR TB FOUR.
FOR TB FOUR, ARE WE PUTTING AN AMOUNT IN THERE? SO I DON'T BELIEVE THE AMOUNT CAN BE SET RIGHT NOW BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF MUNICIPALITIES, BUT IT IS SPELLED OUT IN THE WAREHOUSE CLAUSES HOW THAT NUMBER WILL BE DETERMINED.
YEAH, I THINK THAT LAST COUNT, UM, THEY WERE LOOKING FOR A TOTAL OF $5,000 FOR 20 PARTICIPANTS AND THEY HAD, IT DEFINITELY DROPPED.
DID I DROP? PARDON ME? IT'S DROPPED QUITE A BIT.
AND THEY HAD IT LAST COUNT, 28 PARTICIPANTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND THERE MAY BE MORE SO EACH, SO IT IS JUST AS A COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS AND HABER WAS JUST MENTIONING, SO FOR, FOR THIS PARTICULAR COUNCIL, FOR THE WESTCHESTER, UM, THE CONED GAS RATE CASE WE'RE ASKING, WE'VE BEEN PRESENTED FOR MR. POWELLS TO COME BEFORE US AND JOIN IN ON A PETITION TO, IS A PETITION SHALL IS PETITION THE RIGHT WORD OR LAWSUIT? SUIT, SUIT FOR A SUIT, UM, AGAINST CONED.
WITH REGARDS TO THE RATE INCREASES, UM, THEY CAME TO US, THEY WERE LOOKING TO GET 20 MUNICIPALITIES, 20 MUNICIPALITIES HAVE ALREADY SIGNED ON AT $5,000.
AND WHAT WAS REPORTED TO WHAT WAS SAID TO US, IF WE GET MORE THAN A 20 PARTICIPANTS, THEN THAT RATE WOULD BE DECREASED.
SO RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY FROM OUR LAST REPORT WE'VE TOLD, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT WE'RE AT 28.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT DEDUCTION WOULD BE AND COST.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS JUST AWARE THE CAP WAS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SO IT'S DIVISIBLE BY HOWEVER MANY RIGHT.
SO AT THIS POINT IT WOULD BE ABOUT $3,500 COST TO THE TOWN.
HOPEFULLY IT CONTINUES TO DECREASE IF MORE MUNICIPALITIES SIGN ON.
BUT WITH A T THREE, UH, WITH THE MATTER OF, UH, KRISTEN STEIN VERSUS TOWN OF GREENBERG, YOU WANT TO GIVE AN UP? YOU, I, I'LL JUST GIVE A BRIEF UPDATE.
ANYONE COULD LOOK IT UP, BUT, UM, THERE WAS A MOTION FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT THAT WAS FAVORABLE TO THE TOWN.
WE HAVE SPECIAL COUNSEL, DEPUTY ATTORNEY, UH, PEGGY TAGLIA HAS BEEN WORKING VERY HARD ON IT, SO WE'RE HAPPY AND WE'LL PROCEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CASE.
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OKAY.IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.
COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS, I HAVEN'T FINISHED LOOKING AT.
COUNCILWOMAN HABER, YOU'RE STILL LOOKING.
DID YOU, UM, WAS THE CHANGE TO THE, UH, CL ONE, WAS THAT TO YOUR, UM, SATISFACTION? EXCELLENT, THANK YOU.
SO, JUST TO BE CLEAR, AT LEAST, UM, TOWN CLERK, WHEN YOU SAY SATISFACTION, ARE YOU JUST SAYING THAT JUST EVERYTHING FELL IN PROCESS THAT, 'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S THE TOWN'S, IT'S THE TOWN'S PROCESS AND THAT IT, IT MET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS.
SO I MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION, UM, FOR THE PURPOSES OF, UH, DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.
COULD I JUST MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT? TO ALSO INTERVIEW FOR PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD AND FOR A POTENTIAL HR CONSULTANT, IF WE COULD ADD THAT TO THE MOTION, PLEASE.