* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] [ This meeting will take place in the Town Hall Auditorium, located at 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY, and will also take place via Zoom. If you would like to watch the meeting, you may do so via the Town's website at https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetingss. This meeting will be broadcast live on Cable Television and a recording likely will be available on cable television thereafter. If you would like to participate in one or more of the public hearings via Zoom, you must pre-register through the Department of Community Development and Conservation by emailing publichearing@greenburghny.com or calling 914-989-1530, specifying the application(s) that you would like to speak on. Instructions to participate will then be emailed to you or you will receive a return phone call. AGENDA] IN PROGRESS. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE MO, I'M SORRY, APRIL 2ND, 2025. PLANNING BOARD MEETING. UH, AARON, WOULD YOU DO THE ROLL CALL, PLEASE? CHAIRPERSON DAVIS HERE. MR. PINE? UH, HERE. MR. MO. MS. MOYER? HERE. MR. WEINBERG HERE OR ALTERNATE, UH, AND NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING ARE MR. DESAI AND MR. SNAGS. SO MR. WEINBERG WILL BE A FULL VOTING MEMBER. OKAY. HAS EVERYONE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ THROUGH THE MINUTES OR ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS? AARON? NO COMMENTS FROM NO COMMENTS. OKAY. CAN SOMEONE PUT FORTH A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES? UH, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM, UH, THE LAST MEETING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. AYE. GREAT. THANK YOU. AND LET'S MOVE ON TO CORRESPONDENCE. YES. SO I'M ACTUALLY GONNA CIRCULATE, UM, WE ADDED THIS TO THE FINAL AGENDA, AND I EMAILED THE AGENDA OUT. I EMAILED THE DOCUMENTATION AS WELL, BUT I WANTED TO GIVE A HARD COPY. SO LET ME JUST DISTRIBUTE THAT SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M KIND OF SPEAKING TO. YOU CAN TAKE ONE AND, AND PASS IT. I'LL GIVE YOU THAT ONE. AND, UH, OUR, OUR GUEST IS HAVING A CHALLENGE LOGGING IN, BUT I THINK IF YOU SEND HER THE ID, SHE'LL BE ABLE TO LOG IN. SO, YEAH, LET ME SEE IF, UM, ACTUALLY I HAVE TO CHECK ON MY, OKAY, SO WHY DON'T WE PAUSE FOR A MINUTE AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN GET THE ID. SHOULD BE IN YOUR INVITE MEETING INFO, RIGHT? MEETING, YEAH. HERE WE GO. SO I'LL SEND THIS MEETING ID NUMBER, WHICH I CAN'T. OKAY, GREAT WORK. OKAY, SO MS. ANDERSON SHOULD GET THAT SHORTLY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. FINE. SO IN CORRESPONDENCE ADDED TO THE FINAL AGENDA AND POSTED ON THE WEBSITE IS CASE NUMBER PB 21 DASH 23. THAT'S THE DI NAPOLI SUBDIVISION AT 1490 AND 1952. SAW MILL RIVER ROAD, PO. WHITE PLAINS. THAT PROJECT MOVED THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD AND OBTAINED A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL SOME TIME AGO. UM, THEY HAVE SOUGHT AND OBTAINED THREE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL EXTENSIONS OF, TYPICALLY THOSE ARE 180 DAYS EACH. AND THE APPLICANT SUBMITTED AN EMAIL YESTERDAY, UH, REQUESTING A FOURTH PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL EXTENSION IN OUR THIRD PRELIMINARY APPROVAL EXTENSION. GRANTED ON OCTOBER, OCTOBER 16TH, 2024. THE PLANNING BOARD REQUESTED THAT THE APPLICANT CHECK IN WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION, OUR OFFICE, UM, WITH, UH, BIWEEKLY TO PROVIDE A STATUS UPDATE AND PROVIDE A CHRONOLOGY OF EVENTS. UM, AND I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH MR. ESCALADES ON A FAIRLY REGULAR BASIS. IT'S USUALLY OVER THE PHONE. UH, IT DID SAY CHECK IN, SO IT DIDN'T SAY SPECIFICALLY AN EMAIL OR, OR LETTER. UM, HE HAD BEEN INDICATING TO ME FOR A PERIOD OF TIME THAT HE WAS AWAITING FURTHER COMMENTS FROM THE BUREAU OF ENGINEERING. UM, AND HE DID OBTAIN THOSE JUST, UH, APRIL 1ST. SO HE ALSO WAS ADVISED BY THE TOWN'S BUREAU OF ENGINEERING THAT HE NEEDED TO PROVIDE AN UPDATED STORM STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN AND RELATED ANALYSIS AND CALCULATIONS FOR THEIR REVIEW. UH, BEFORE THE TOWN ENGINEER WILL SIGN OFF ON THE SUBDIVISION PLAT, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT BEFORE HE CAN FILE THE SUBDIVISION PLAT WITH THE, UM, HEALTH COMMISSIONER AND GET IT ENDORSED, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT BEFORE HE CAN COME BACK TO OBTAIN FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL. AS I UNDERSTAND IT, HE ALSO HAS TO FILE A SEWER MAP, UM, MAPPING WITH [00:05:01] THE TOWN'S ENGINEER TO SIGN OFF ON THAT AS WELL. SO HE IS IN THE PROCESS. IN FACT, I SAW HIM EARLIER THIS EVENING. HE INDICATED THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE PROGRAM TO, UH, RUN THE ANALYSIS THAT'S BEEN REQUIRED BY THE TOWN'S ENGINEERS. SO THEY'VE HIRED AN OUTSIDE ENGINEERING PARTY, UH, PROFESSIONAL TO PREPARE THAT ANALYSIS. AND HE ADVISED THAT THAT'S NOW BEEN COMPLETE. SO THEY WERE WORKING ON THAT BECAUSE THAT COMMENT CAME IN PREVIOUSLY. THAT'S NOW READY. AND HE ALSO INDICATED THAT IN RESPONSE TO THE MOST RECENT, UH, COMMENT MEMO, HE HAS A LOT OF THAT ADDRESSED. BUT HE WAS WAITING ON THIS UPDATED STORMWATER ANALYSIS TO PACKAGE EVERYTHING TOGETHER AT ONCE FOR THE TOWN ENGINEER TO SIGN OFF ON SO THAT HE CAN GET THE PLAT SIGNED, ENDORSED BY THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT, AND THEN COME BACK TO US FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION. SO HE'S ON THE BRINK. UM, I THINK A SIX MONTH EXTENSION WOULD, WOULD GIVE US ENOUGH TIME OR HIM ENOUGH TIME TO GET BACK TO US FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION, AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UH, THIS PREDATES, YOU KNOW, MY BEING ON THE BOARD, BUT I, I ASSUME THIS IS A PRETTY COMPLICATED, IT'S A SITUATION. YEAH. SO IT'S A, UH, 13 LOT SUBDIVISION, 12 NEW HOMES AND UM, ON THE SAW RIVER, THIS IS NOT QUITE ON THE SAWMILL RIVER, ACTUALLY. UM, THE NEW YORK STATE THROUGHWAY IS BETWEEN THE SAWMILL RIVER AND THEN SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, AND THEN THE PROJECT SITE. MM-HMM . UH, NEVERTHELESS, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, A VERY, AS I RECALL, AND I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT A VERY ELABORATE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. AND THERE'S EVEN, FOR INSTANCE, UM, AN EMERGENCY ACCESS PATHWAY THAT GETS YOU UP INTO THE SITE IN THE EVENT A TREE OR SOMETHING FELL ACROSS. IT'S A CUL-DE-SAC ROADWAY OFF OF WHITE HOUSE ROAD. ALRIGHT. BUT, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF STEEP SLOPES. THERE ARE A LOT OF TREES. IT'S ACTUALLY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO VERY OLD CEMETERY THAT'S LIKE, SORT OF STRANGE. IT'S NOT, IT'S MAPPED, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF HISTORY WITH IT THAT WE WENT THROUGH. I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANTED TO READ UP ON IT, I CAN SEND YOU SOME INFORMATION, BUT, UM, THERE'S ALSO, OH, SORRY, SEWER DISTRICT EXTENSION MM-HMM . YES. UM, TO, DUE TO THE SHORT TURNAROUND BETWEEN THIS MEETING AND WHEN HE JUST GOT THE NOTIFICATION, UM, TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES, WE WANT TO, UH, CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD GRANT THE 180 DAY EXTENSION. RIGHT. ALRIGHT. IN THE INTERIM, I'M HAPPY TO, YOU KNOW, SEND YOU ALONG ANY INFORMATION OR EVEN HAVE A CONVERSATION IN MORE DEPTH. THAT'S FINE. ABOUT THE PROJECT. BUT YEAH, THERE, IT'S A RATHER LARGE SUBDIVISION FOR WHAT WE SEE THESE DAYS IN TERMS OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISIONS. AND, YOU KNOW, IT WAS COMPLEX. THE BOARD DID A LOT OF GREAT WORK ON THE PROJECT. UH, THE APPLICANT'S GONNA BE MAKING A DONATION TO A SIDEWALK FUND FOR FUTURE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA BE PUTTING FENCING AROUND THE CEMETERY. 'CAUSE NOW THERE'S NO BOUNDARY. UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA DO SOME MINOR LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS SUBJECT TO, YOU KNOW, TOWN APPROVAL. THEY MAY EVEN PUT A BENCH OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND GATE IT OUT. SO THAT'S CLEARLY DEFINED THE LIMITS. SO THAT WAS SIMILAR TO, I THINK SOMEBODY ASKED FOR THE CASES WHERE THAT ARE, THAT PREDATE US MM-HMM . HAVING ACCESS TO THE PRIOR DOCUMENTATION. RIGHT. IS THAT POSSIBLE? SO MAYBE WE CAN HAVE THAT CONVERSATION. YEAH. SO, UH, STAFF TAR STARTED TO TALK ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN DO OR SEEK TO DO IS TO PUT AN ARCHIVES, UM, FOLDER TOGETHER ON THE WEBSITE. SO PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN APPROVED BUT YOU KNOW, ARE DATED TO A DEGREE OR UNDER DEVELOPMENT OR MOVING THROUGH ONCE A PROJECT GETS. UM, AND THIS ONE MAY BE MAY OR MAY NOT BE UP ON THE WEBSITE. TYPICALLY IT IS, THEY'RE, THEY'RE UP ON THE WEBSITE UNTIL LIKE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL IS ISSUED AND THEN WE TAKE IT DOWN AND MAKE WAY FOR ACTIVE APPLICATIONS. BUT I THINK WE CAN SET UP A SEPARATE FOLDER YES. AND DO IT THAT WAY FOR ACCESS FOR MEMBERS. SO YEAH. AND, AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MM-HMM . YOU KNOW, SOMETHING MAY NOT BE BUILT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME, BUT IT HAD BEEN APPROVED, SO THEY'LL STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE DOCUMENTS. AND SO THE ASK WAS THAT THE SOMEHOW BE FILED UNDER PB SUCH AND SUCH AND SUCH, YOU CAN GO TO THE WEBSITE ON A LOT OF THESE THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CLOSED OUT, DO A SEARCH, BUT YOU MIGHT MISS SOME OF THE, UH, DOCUMENTS. SO THAT IS THE ASK. YEP. YEAH, THAT'S REASONABLE AND REALLY ACTUALLY A GOOD IDEA. WE'RE GONNA TALK TO OUR WEBMASTER, BUT WE DON'T SEEM TO THINK THAT THAT'S GONNA BE AN ISSUE. SO, AND THEN WE'LL SPEAK WITH OUR OFFICE MANAGER ABOUT GETTING [00:10:01] THOSE DOCUMENTS UP. OKAY. A ALSO JUST, JUST TO SORT OF UNDERSTAND HOW, WHAT, WHAT REALLY OUR OPTIONS ARE IN THIS CASE, THIS IS THE SECOND OR THE THIRD EXTENSION, IS THAT CORRECT? FOURTH TO THE FOURTH. FOURTH EXTENSION. SO CONSIDERING WE'VE APPROVED PRIOR EXTENSIONS AND THE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVEN'T CHANGED, WOULD THERE BE ANY REASON? WELL, WHAT, WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO DECLINE THE EXTENSION IF, IF WE WANTED? WELL, I WOULD SAY ONE THING, MAYBE NOT TO DECLINE, BUT, AND AMANDA CAN SPEAK TO THAT. HOWEVER, IF FOR ANY REASON THE, UM, THE SUBMISSIONS AND DISCUSSION AND AND REVIEW BY THE TENANT ENGINEER RESULTED IN A MODIFICATION TO THE PROJECT, THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REOPEN A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, AS REVISED. I KNOW THAT FOR A FACT, BUT THAT HASN'T HAPPENED HERE. THAT HAS NOT, THAT HAS NOT WAIT. BUT WE ARE ASKING THEM FOR REVISED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN. I'M SORRY, WE ARE ASKING THEM FOR REVISED STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. SO IT'S AN UPDATED STORM, THE TOWN ENGINEER. MM-HMM . IT'S ALREADY BEEN PRELIMINARILY APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD, UM, THE TOWN ENGINEER. SO SINCE THIS PROJECT'S INCEPTION, THERE'S BEEN THREE TOWN ENGINEERS. THE FIRST TWO SIGNED OFF ON THE PROJECT, AND THEN PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL WAS GRANTED, THE CURRENT TOWN ENGINEER HAS ASKED FOR AN UPDATED ANALYSIS, WHICH IS ALL THE FIGURES AND CHARTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH HE HAS DEEMED NECESSARY PRIOR TO HIM SIGNING THE SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT PLANS, WHICH ARE REQUIRED TO GO TO THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT BEFORE THEY ENDORSE THE SUBDIVISION PLAT. THEN IF THE PROJECT ULTIMATELY OBTAINS FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL AND MOVES FORWARD INTO A BUILDING STATE, UM, THEN BEFORE THAT THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO OBTAIN THE STONEWATER MANAGEMENT PERMIT FROM THE TOWN ENGINEER. AND BECAUSE OF THE, THE AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT, THERE WOULD BE A NOTICE OF INTENT WITH THE STATE AND ITS STATE PERMITS, NOT A COUNTY, NO COUNTY PERMIT, I'M SORRY. UM, THE PROJECT WAS REVIEWED BY, YOU KNOW, NEW YORK STATE DOT BEING THAT SELMA RIVER ROADS AND STATE ROAD. UM, THE APPLICANT KNEW THAT NEW YORK STATE TYPICALLY DOESN'T WANT, WANTS TO MINIMIZE CURB CUTS ONTO NINE A. SO THEY ARE COMING OFF THE SIDE ROAD, WHICH IS WHITE HOUSE ROAD, AND ONLY THE EMERGENCY ACCESS WAY IS OFF OF NINE A, WHICH WOULD COME IN TOWARDS THE REAR OF THE CUL-DE-SAC. AND C IS DONE. YES. OH, THAT WAS DONE, SEEKS DONE. UM, AND, AND IS THAT, AARON SAID THAT 180 DAYS IS COMMON MM-HMM . THE SIX MONTHS, UH, IN TERMS OF GIVING PEOPLE EXTENSIONS. SO UNLESS SOMEONE HAS SOME, UH, SPECIFIC REASON WHY IT SHOULD NOT BE 180. YEAH. IT'S CUSTOMARY. YEAH. I, I I I THINK THIS, THIS IS A ROUTINE EXTENSION AND, AND I WOULD MOVE TO EXTEND, UH, FOR 180 DAYS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. GREAT. THANK YOU. I KNOW THAT WAS ADDED, YOU KNOW, TOWARDS THE END , YOU KNOW, LAST MINUTE, BUT, UH, CAME IN, I APPROACHED MS. DAVIS AND SHE WAS AGREEABLE, SO I WANTED TO GET THAT ON BEING THAT THEY WERE, ARE UP ON, UH, THE CURRENT EXTENSION WAS THROUGH APRIL 9TH BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING, SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I DID FORGET TO ASK ONE QUESTION. IS HE, UM, OBLIGATED TO CHECK IN WITH YOU EVERY TWO WEEKS STILL? WE WOULD, WE WOULD GIVE THE SAME CONDITION. OKAY. IN THE, IN THIS EXTENSION, BUT I'M GLAD YOU MENTIONED IT. THANK YOU. UH, THE NEXT, UH, OLD BUSINESS IS CASE NUMBER PB 2326. SORRY. YES. I THINK, I THINK OUR GUEST IS IN THE WAITING ROOM. OH, THANK YOU. NO NEED TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO PICK THEM UP. WE'RE GONNA COME THROUGH THIS UNLESS SOMETHING GOES SIDEWAYS, BUT, UH, LEMME JUST ADMIT, TAKE A LOOK AT OUR PARTICIPANTS. GOOD EVENING, MS. ANDERSON. SORRY FOR THE, UH, TROUBLE WITH THE ZOOM LINK. GLAD YOU WERE ABLE TO GET IN THROUGH THE MEETING. ID. OKAY. I'M JUST GONNA RE UM, REPEAT THAT WE'RE GOING INTO OLD BUSINESS A WORK SESSION FOR CASE NUMBER PB 23 26, 4 50 REALTY, LLC, UH, WHICH IS FOUR 50 THROUGH FOUR 60 TARRYTOWN [00:15:01] ROAD. AND AARON, WOULD YOU GO THROUGH THE VARIANCES? YES. SO ACTUALLY PROJECTS ON FOR FI CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL SUBDIVISION, UH, WHICH WAS MADE BY THE APPLICANT, UH, STAFF HAS PREPARED A FINAL SUBDIVISION DECISION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. IT'S A PRETTY BASIC, ACTUALLY FOR A LOT OF THE APPROVAL LETTERS WE PROVIDE IN CONNECTION WITH SUBDIVISION PROJECTS, BUT THAT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO, UM, SITE WORK OUTSIDE OF LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS, UH, THAT ARE IN CONNECTION WITH THIS PROJECT. FOR THOSE THAT WEREN'T AWARE, WHAT THIS PROJECT INVOLVED WAS A ONE PROPERTY THAT HAD TWO BUILDINGS ON IT, THE FOUR 50 BUILDING AND THE FOUR 60. AND THE DESIRE WAS TO SUBDIVIDE TO CITE BOTH BUILDINGS AS THEY EXIST ON THE TWO SEPARATE LOTS, UM, FOR DIFFERENT PURPOSES. BUT, UM, ONE, THERE'S INTEREST AND ACTUALLY NISSAN IS, LOOKS TO BE MOVING INTO ONE OF THE BUILDINGS AND THEY NEEDED A NUMBER OF VARIANCES. UH, THEY OBTAINED THOSE. THEY ALSO WERE ASKED TO, UM, CREATE A, AN ACCESS EASEMENT, WHICH, UM, WAS PREVIOUSLY MORE OR LESS IN PLACE TO ALLOW ACCESS TO THE REAR, WHERE THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES AND WHATNOT. UM, THERE ARE LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS THAT I HAD BROUGHT TO THE BOARD'S ATTENTION IN CONNECTION WITH A FORMER PRO PROJECT AT THIS ACTUAL SITE. AND THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO MAKE SUBMISSION TO NEW YORK STATE DOT FOR THE LANDSCAPING. THAT'S WITHIN THE RIGHT OF WAY ALONG TERRYTOWN ROAD, BUT THERE ARE OTHER LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS IN THE REAR AND EVEN IN THE FRONT THAT FALL OUTSIDE, OUTSIDE OF THE NEW YORK STATE DOT RIGHT OF WAY. SO THE APPLICANT HAS AGREED TO INSTALL THOSE AND, UM, THEY'VE GOT THE PLAT ENDORSED. UH, THERE WOULD BE A COUPLE OF VOTES THIS EVENING IN CONNECTION WITH THIS FIRST CAN I JUST, SORRY, JUST QUICK QUESTION. SO THE IMPERVIOUS EXCEEDS RECOMMENDED, IS THAT EXISTING TODAY OR IT'S PLANNED TO EXCEED? AND THEN WAS THERE ANY, ANY CHANGES MADE FOR THE IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE? SO THE, UM, THE COVERAGE WAS NOT CHANGING. IN FACT, IT WAS, I MEAN, IT EXCEEDS RECOMMENDED RIGHT? IT EXCEEDS WHAT WAS PERMITTED. YEAH. OKAY. AND THE ZONING BOARD APPROVED, UM, APPROVED THEIR VARIANCES. I KNOW IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, I'M JUST ASKING, UM, IS IT IN EXCESS OF WHAT'S THERE TODAY? NO, I WOULD ACTUALLY SUSPECT IT'S A LITTLE BIT LESS BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE PUTTING IN SOME LANDSCAPING ISLANDS. SO IT'S GONNA SLIGHTLY REDUCE DOWN FROM WHAT EXISTS, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO THE APPLICATION. AND THERE WAS A RECOMMENDATION MADE BY THIS BOARD TO THE ZONING BOARD PRIOR TO THE ZONING BOARD CONSIDERING THE VARIANCE APPLICATION, UM, FOR THIS EVENING, TWO VOTES. ONE WOULD BE TO CONSIDER WAIVING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FINAL SUBDIVISION. I CAN, UM, INDICATE THAT THERE HAVE BEEN NO SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES TO THE PLAT SINCE THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL WAS ISSUED BY THIS BOARD. UM, SO THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER THAT AND WOULD ALSO CONSIDER A DECISION ON THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPLICATION. AND I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. LIKE I SAID, IT'S A PRETTY BASIC DECISION HERE. UM, THE ONLY SITE SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT RELATES TO THE LANDSCAPING THAT I'VE ALREADY GONE THROUGH WITH YOU. LESLIE, DIDN'T YOU ASK THE LAST TIME ABOUT DOING THE LANDSCAPING IN BOTH IN, IN FRONT OF BOTH BUILDINGS. RIGHT. AND I THINK WE ADDRESSED THAT WITH, I KNOW THEY'RE DOING IT IN FRONT OF THE, THE NISSAN, RIGHT? MM-HMM. AND WE ADDRESSED THE, UH, HANDLING THE OTHER ONE ALSO. RIGHT. SO IS THAT COVERED? YOU CAN COME UP YES. ON THAT POINT. OKAY. UH, GOOD EVENING. JUST FOR THE RECORD, DIEGO BILL FROM JAMES, SEE, UH, WE SUBMITTED USE AND OCCUPANCY PERMITS TO THE DOT FOR BOTH PROPERTIES PER THE BOARD'S REQUEST. SO, UH, THE LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONTAGE BASED ON THE BOARD'S REQUEST WOULD BE, UM, IT'S ALL BEING CONSIDERED AT THE SAME TIME. THAT'S ALL. SO, UM, JUST WANTED TO JUMP IN AND, AND IT WOULD BE DONE, YOU KNOW, AT, AT THE SAME TIME. CORRECT. BUT AGAIN, IT'S ALL SUBJECT TO THE ISSUANCE OF A USE AND OCCUPANCY FROM THE D THE USE AND OCCUPANCY PERMIT FROM THE DOT. RIGHT. WHICH DOES TAKE SOME TIME, WHICH WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT THE LAST MEETING. OKAY. AND THEY'VE BEEN FILED, YOU SAID? WE DID AND WE PROVIDED COPIES TO THE TOWN THANK YOU. OF THE, UH, PACKAGE THAT WAS FILED WITH THE DT. I COULD BE WRONG. IS THERE, THERE'S NOT A FOR SALE SIGN, RIGHT? NOT ON THAT ONE. I, I AM NOT AWARE OF A FOR SALE SIGN, BUT THERE I COULD BE WRONG. I MEAN, THERE IS, THAT'S ONE OF THE PURPOSES FOR SUBDIVIDING THE LOTS IS AGAIN, IT GIVES THEM MORE OPPORTUNITY TO OCCUPY THAT EXISTING BUILDING BECAUSE PEOPLE THAT [00:20:01] WANT TO INVEST IN THE BUILDING TO BRING IT UP TO STANDARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY WANNA OWN THE PROPERTY THAT'S ON THERE. RIGHT NOW, THEY WERE LIMITED TO ONLY LONG-TERM LEASES OR A LEASE FOR THAT PROPERTY. RIGHT. IT'S VERY HARD TO REOCCUPY THE BUILDING WITHOUT HAVING THAT OTHER PIECE OF ASSET UNDERNEATH IT. SO, UNDERSTOOD. UM, I'M SORRY, DIEGO? UM, IT'S OPPOSITE MANHATTAN PARK BROOK, RIGHT? IT IS, YES. IT'S, YES. SO THE, ALL OF THE ANALYSIS THAT WAS DONE AROUND STORMWATER RUNOFF AND STUFF FROM IT WAS CONSIDERED AS A NEIGHBOR? I WOULD BE CONSIDERED, I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT FOR THAT PROPERTY. I JUST WOULD GO, REITERATE THAT AGAIN. THERE'S NO PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS, NO CONSTRUCTION, UM, ON THE PROPERTY, THE PARKING LOTS, ALL OF THAT REMAINS THE SAME. UH, THIS IS, IT'S, IT'S SIMPLY A SUBDIVISION TO PUT THE TWO BUILDINGS ON INDIVIDUAL LOTS. AND AS MR. SCHMIDT HAD INDICATED, THERE IS A REDUCTION IN IMPERVIOUS AREA AS A RESULT OF SOME OF THE LANDSCAPING IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING PUT IN. SO ANYTHING THAT YOU LOOK AT FROM THAT STANDPOINT, THERE'S LESS IMP THERE WILL BE LESS IMPERVIOUS AREA ON THE PROPERTY, BUT AT THE BEGINNING HERE, THERE'S NO MORE THAN WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW. AND SHOULD THE SECOND PROPERTY BE SOLD AND SOMEONE WANTS TO RAISE THAT BUILDING AND DO NEW CONSTRUCTION, THEY HAVE COME BACK HERE. AND AT THAT POINT WE WOULD DEAL WITH 100% BE SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN. SITE PLAN. MM-HMM . WARRANT SITE PLAN REVIEW BY THE PLANNING BOARD. AND IF THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, OPPORTUNITIES TO IMPROVE UPON WHAT'S OUT THERE TODAY, AND IF THEY RAISE THE BUILDING, OBVIOUSLY ALL THE VARIANCES ARE KNOWN, ALL OF THAT GOES AWAY. CORRECT. SO THAT'S TIED TO THE ZONING BOARD APPROVAL. MM-HMM . ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR ANYONE? A FOR ME? ALL RIGHT. SO AS AARON SAID, WE HAVE TWO DECISIONS TO MAKE. THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE TO WAIVE A PUBLIC HEARING. UM, SO I'LL NEED A MOTION. SO MOVED. NOTHING SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. THE AMAN NEED TO HEAR THE AYES. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ALL AB FINE. AING. I'M SORRY. AYE, AYE. OKAY. UM, AND THEN, UM, THE SECOND DECISION IS THE, UH, APPROVAL OF THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPLICATION. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? ABSTAIN. OKAY. SO WE'LL HAVE A GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD NIGHT. YOU READY? YEAH. OKAY. UH, SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS, UH, CASE NUMBER PB 25 0 4 1 60 OLD TERRYTOWN ROAD. AND THIS IS A MINOR PROJECT, WETLAND WATER COSTS THAT I, I THINK THE DECISION IS WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO MATT. YES, INDEED. THANK YOU, MS. DAVIS. MR. BRITTON. I'M SORRY. . UM, YEAH. SO THIS IS, UH, A PROJECT THAT QUALIFIES FOR THE MINOR PROJECT WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT. UM, THIS IS A DECK EXPANSION AND HOT TUB ADDITION LIKE INSIDE THE DECK, UH, TO THE REAR OF THIS HOUSE, THERE IS AN OFFSITE WATERCOURSE THAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE, UM, THE MOHAWK DAY CAMP PROPERTY, UH, NEARBY TO THE HOUSE. THE, ALMOST THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS WITHIN THE 100 FOOT BUFFER AREA. UH, AND SO THE AREA OF THE GROUND WHERE THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE SUPPORT POSTS FOR THE DECK IS WITHIN THE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER. AND AS GROUND DISTURBANCE, WHICH IS WHAT TRIGGERS THE, UH, THE NEED FOR THE WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT. THE APPLICANT WENT BEFORE THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL LAST WEEK AND RECEIVED A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CAC REGARDING THEIR APPLICATION. UM, THEY'RE ADDING A TOTAL OF SEVEN SQUARE FEET OF IMPERVIOUS COVERAGE, UH, WHICH RELATES TO, UH, THE STAIRS AND THE PIERS FOR THE, UM, FOR THE SUPPORT FOR THE DECK. UM, THEY'RE ABOUT 54, 55 FEET AWAY FROM THE WATERCOURSE. AND, UH, THE NO ANTICIPATED IMPACTS TO THE WATERCOURSE FROM THIS, UH, PROJECT. UM, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. OKAY. UM, SO I, IS EVERYONE FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT? IT'S NOT, IT'S ACTUALLY RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER ALMOST. MM-HMM . YEAH, JUST UP THE HILL. JUST UP THE HILL. I HAVE THE PLAN ON THE OVERHEAD. UH, IF, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HAPPY TO WALK YOU THROUGH ANYTHING. I THINK MAYBE [00:25:01] NOT FOR THE RECORD. OKAY, YOU'RE FINE. I MEAN, I WOULD LIKE TO GO MOST OF THE PROPERTY'S IN A BUFFER ZONE, INCLUDING A LARGE PERCENTAGE. THE EXISTING HOUSE IS IN THE BUFFER. UM, AND ONCE THE BOARD HAS GONE THROUGH ITS QUESTIONS, I CAN GET INTO KIND OF, UM, WHAT PROCEDURALLY YOU WOULD CONSIDER. 'CAUSE SOME OF YOU MAY NOT FULLY UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURE, SO WE DID PUT IT IN OUR STAFF REPORT, BUT, UM, I CAN DETAIL IT AGAIN FOR YOU. I I JUST HAD ONE QUESTION. OKAY. SO THE, THE LETTER FROM THE ARCHITECT, UM, THEY SUGGESTED NO MITIGATION BE CONDUCTED. IS THERE ANY MITIGATION THAT, THAT YOU ARE SUGGESTING BEYOND THE, NOTHING THE ARCHITECT IS SUGGESTING? UH, I MEAN, SILL FENCES WOULD BE REQUIRED AS PART OF THE CONSTRUCTION AND, UH, TO PROTECT THE WATERCOURSE. BUT I THINK BY UM, NO MITIGATION, THEY MEAN LIKE THEY'RE NOT DOING ANY KIND OF LIKE WETLAND PLANTING. OKAY. BUT, BUT LIKE THE, THE, THE FENCING AND EVERYTHING ELSE? FENCING, YEAH. OKAY. WOULD DEFINITELY BE REQUIRED. GREAT. AARON? WHENEVER, YES. I'M JUST MAKING MY NOTES. OKAY. SO AS INDICATED IN THE TOWN WETLAND INSPECTORS REPORT TO THE PLANNING BOARD DATED MARCH 26TH, 2025, UM, THE CODE ALLOWS FOR THE PLANNING BOARD TO ESSENTIALLY WAIVE JURISDICTION AND TURN OVER MINOR PROJECTS TO THE WETLANDS INSPECTOR FOR DECISION IN VARIOUS CONDITIONS. UM, SO THOSE CONDITIONS ARE LAID OUT IN THE STAFF REPORT. THOSE WOULD BASICALLY BE COPY AND PASTED INTO THIS DECISION. AND THEN ANYTHING ELSE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD MAY ADD? UM, SO WE JUST LAID OUT THE, JUST LAID OUT THE STATEMENT THAT STAFF RECOMMENDS DUE TO THE PROTECTION MEASURES AS DISCUSSED TO BE UTILIZED DURING THE WORK ACTIVITIES, THE MINIMAL AMOUNT OF OVERALL TOTAL SITE DISTURBANCE PROPOSED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT AND THE NEAREST POINT OF PROPOSED WORK TO THE OFFSITE WATER COURSE, WHICH AS MR. BRITTON MENTIONED ABOUT 40, 54, 55 FEET AWAY, THE PLANNING BOARD MAY CONSIDER IN ACCORDANCE WITH SECTION TWO 80 DASH EIGHT B ONE OF THE TOWN CODE TO WAIVE REFERRAL OF THIS APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A FULL REVIEW AND INSTEAD PERMIT THE TOWN WETLANDS INSPECTOR TO ISSUE A DECISION ON THE MINOR PROJECT PERMIT. AND THERE ARE CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT NEED TO, UM, BE, THAT COME INTO PLAY WITH RESPECT TO MINOR PROJECTS. ONE IS THAT IT MUST QUALIFY AS A TYPE TWO ACTION UNDER SEEKER, WHICH IT DOES. UM, SO WE WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, VOTING THAT IT DOES FALL INTO THE TYPE TWO, CATEGORY TWO, THAT THERE, UM, BE A REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT FOR UTILIZATION OF THE MINOR PROJECT PROCESS. AND THREE, THAT THERE IS A REPORT FROM THE TOWN'S WETLANDS INSPECTOR. SO ALL THREE HAVE BEEN SATISFIED, PROVIDED THE PLANNING BOARD VOTES, UM, THAT IT'S A TYPE TWO ACTION. I DID ACTUALLY HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION ON THE PROJECT. SURE. UM, THE, THE HOT TUB. IS THE HOT TUB AT, IS IT, IS IT UM, FLUSH WITH THE DECK OR IS IT RAISED ABOVE THE DECK? UH, SO I BELIEVE THE HOT TUB IS GONNA BE, UM, IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES, THE, YOU, THE, UH, I BELIEVE THE CONTRACTOR IS HERE. CONTRACTOR. LET HIM ACT, ANSWER THAT QUESTION. IF YOU COULD JUST STATE YOUR NAME, UH, FOR THE RECORD. HI, MY NAME IS BRIAN. UH, I'M THE CONTRACTOR. SO FULL NAME, I'M SORRY. OH, BRIAN RIVAS. THANK YOU . UM, SO THE DECK IS GONNA BE, UH, ABOUT HALFWAY. SO IT'S GOING TO, INSTEAD OF HAVING TO STEP UP OVER INTO THE DECK, YOU'RE GONNA STEP IN DECK OR HOT TUB THE, INTO THE HOT TUB. SO THEN IS, IS THERE A FENCE OR A FENCE? I, I GUESS I'M WORRIED LIKE IF THERE'S ANY SMALL CHILDREN, WOULD THEY BE AT RISK OF FALLING INTO THE HOT TUB? SOMEONE NO, THEY'RE NOT GONNA ACCIDENTALLY FALL IN. IT'S, IT'S HIGH ENOUGH WHERE IT'S, IT'S NOT, NO KIDS ARE GONNA BE FALLING IN AND IT'S GONNA BE COVERED. AND SO THERE'S GONNA BE LIKE A, THE EDGE OF THE HOT TUB IS GONNA BE RAISED ABOVE THE LEFT. OH YEAH, YEAH, YEAH. IT'S, IT'S NOT GONNA BE FULLY WALK-IN. SO IT'S NOT FLUSH WITH THE DECK? NO, NO. NOT FLUSH. NOT FLUSH. OKAY. AND I BELIEVE, AND I COULD BE WRONG, BUT THE RULE IS THAT IF IT'S COVERED, 'CAUSE I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A WHOLE THING ABOUT PEOPLE ASKING PEOPLE TO DO FENCING AND THEN THAT WAS NEXT TO UM, ASKING THEM JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S COVERED TO CONFIRM THAT YEAH, IT'S GONNA BE COVERED. OKAY. OKAY. YEAH. GREAT. I KNOW, I FORGOT WHAT I, OH, UM, ONE OTHER THING AARON, JUST UM, IF YOU CAN GIVE SOME BACKGROUND AS TO WHY THEY DECIDED TO CREATE A SPACE FOR MINOR PROJECTS AS OPPOSED TO JUST RUNNING EVERYTHING THROUGH THE PLANNING BOARD. SO THE MINOR, THE [00:30:01] MINOR PROJECT WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMITS ARE CODIFIED. UM, THE PLANNING BOARD HAS GONE ONE STEP FURTHER TO UH, WELL LET ME BACK UP. THE WAY THE CODE READS, THE PLANNING BOARD MAY TURN OVER MINOR PROJECTS IF THEY MEET THE DEFINITION TO THE TOWN WETLANDS INSPECTOR. THE PLANNING BOARD'S PAST PRACTICE, UM, YEARS AGO WAS EVEN ON MINOR PROJECTS TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AND UM, YOU KNOW, SEE IF THERE ARE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WITH COMMENTS. UM, THAT RESULTED, YOU KNOW, IN SOME PROJECTS THAT ARE VERY MINOR, YOU KNOW, DELAYS WITH TIMING, ADDITIONAL COST AND EXPENSE TO THE APPLICANTS, HAVE THEIR PROFESSIONAL DESIGN PROFESSIONAL COME OUT. THERE ARE NOTICING REQUIREMENTS AND COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THAT. SO THE PLANNING BOARD A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO DECIDED THAT, UM, WITH A REPORT FROM THE TOWNS WETLANDS INSPECTOR, IF THAT REPORT COMES IN AND THE PLANNING BOARD AGREES THAT IT'S A MINOR PROJECT WITH REALLY ZERO POTENTIAL FOR IMPACTS TO THE WATERCOURSE OR WETLAND AREA. LIKE WE HAVE SEEN PROJECTS, THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, IT'S ON A SEPARATE PROPERTY OBVIOUSLY IN THE CAMP MOHAWK SITE, BUT WE'VE SEEN OTHER PROJECTS WHERE THE WATERCOURSE OR WETLAND AREA IS ACROSS THE STREET AND ON SOME OTHER PROPERTY FLOWING IN A DIFFERENT DIRECTION. THERE'S OBVIOUSLY THE LITTLE AMOUNT OF DISTURBANCE THAT'S GONNA BE DONE. THERE'S NO CHANCE FOR WASHOUT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND THE PLANNING BOARD KIND OF CAME UP WITH THE PROCEDURE THAT IT WOULD MORE CLOSELY FOLLOW THE ALLOWANCES PROVIDED IN THE CODE AND CONSIDER WAIVING ITS FULL JURISDICTION WITHOUT THE NEED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING OR A FORMAL WORK SESSION. AS LONG AS THE TOWN WETLANDS INSPECTOR PRESENTS ANSWERS ANY QUESTIONS, IF THE PLANNING BOARD'S COMFORTABLE, IT CAN TURN IT OVER TO THE TOWN WETLANDS INSPECTOR FOR THE DECISION. THANK YOU. BACK TO YOUR HOT TUB QUESTION. SO NEW YORK STATE DID PASS IN 2022, UH, AN ALTERNATIVE WHICH IS TO PROVIDE FOR A SAFETY COVER ON THE HOT TUB IN LIEU OF A BARRIER. OKAY. SO THAT WOULD BE A REQUIREMENT. YES. 2022 AND, UH, NOVEMBER OF 2022. AND, AND AS A SAFETY COVER DIFFERENT FROM THE COVER THAT YOU KNOW, COMES WHEN YOU BUY A HOT TUB OR SO, IT JUST SAYS IT'S THE SAME STANDARD AS THE INTERNATIONAL SWIMMING POOL AND SPA CODE. OKAY. AND OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT CAN REQUIRE THAT AND WOULD BE AWARE OF IT AND REQUIRE THAT THAT BE, EVEN IF IT WASN'T A SPECIFIC CONDITION. GREAT. GREAT. SO THERE WOULD BE TWO VOTES FOR CONSIDERATION. ONE TO CLASSIFY THE PROJECT AS A TYPE TWO ACTION AND TWO TO WAIVE JURISDICTION PURSUANT TO TWO 80 DASH EIGHT B ONE OF THE TOWN CODE AND TURN THE MATTER OVER TO THE WETLANDS INSPECTOR FOR A DECISION. UH, SO I'LL LEAD A MOTION TO CONSIDER THIS AS A TYPE TWO. I'LL MOVE ON. ITEM ONE, ARE WE DOING 'EM TOGETHER OR SEPARATE? UH, NO, WE'RE DOING 'EM SEPARATE. ALRIGHT. SO ON ITEM ONE. SO MOVED. MAY I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? WELL THAT WAS UNANIMOUS. I AM SORRY. AND IT'S TWO 80.2 80 DASH EIGHT B ONE. SO THE NEXT MOTION I'LL NEED IS A MOTION TO TURN IT OVER TO THE MINOR LAND COSTS COURSE INSPECTOR IN ACCORD WITH 2 88 B I'M SORRY, TWO 80 DASH EIGHT B ONE. SO MOVED. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. IT'S UNANIMOUS. VERY WELL, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU BRIAN. DECISION SHORTLY. GOOD NIGHT. GOOD NIGHT, GOOD NIGHT. SO THAT CONCLUDES BUSINESS ON THE AGENDA. HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP ONE OTHER ITEM BEFORE WE CLOSE FOR THE MEETING UNLESS THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE. UH, AMEN. AND I JUST WANT TALK AFTER JUST A VERY BRIEF OKAY. I'LL STOP SHARING. YEAH, I'LL STOP THE SHARE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. BYE EVERYBODY. . SO ARE YOU HERE FOR NO, NO, NO, NO. OKAY. SO I JUST WANTED TO UM, KIND OF GO THROUGH THE CALENDAR FOR THE REST OF THE SPRING AND INTO THE SUMMER AND BEYOND IF WE NEED TO JUST BECAUSE WE'RE OBVIOUSLY DOWN A FEW MEMBERS AT THE MOMENT. UM, WE THANK MS. ANDERSON FOR JOINING US ON ZOOM THIS EVENING. SO SHE'S AN INTERESTED, UH, CANDIDATE FOR [00:35:01] AN ALTERNATE, UH, POSITION WITH THE PLANNING BOARD. AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT AN INTERVIEW IS BEING SCHEDULED WITH THE TOWN BOARD POSSIBLY AS SOON AS NEXT TUESDAY. IF THAT GOES WELL. AND MS. ANDERSON WILL LET TO PROCEED AND THE TOWN BOARD WANTS TO PROCEED. UM, THERE'S A CHANCE THAT IT COULD HAPPEN THE FOLLOWING EVENING, ALTHOUGH IT'S PROBABLY MORE LIKELY TO HAPPEN AT THEIR LATER APRIL MEETING. THAT'S TO BE DETERMINED 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME, UM, TRAINING REQUIREMENTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT NEED TO BE IRONED OUT. SO POTENTIALLY IF ALL GOES WELL, WE MAY HAVE MS. ANDERSON AVAILABLE FOR OUR MONDAY, APRIL 21ST MEETING, IF NOT POTENTIALLY MAY 7TH. UM, WITH THAT SAID, THAT WOULD ALL LIKELY RESULT IN MR. WEINBERG BEING ELEVATED TO A FULL-TIME MEMBER, WHICH IS GREAT TO FILL A TERM. I WAS JOKING WITH HIM, I SAID THROUGH 2040, BUT, UH, , WHY STOP THERE? BUT, UH, LISTEN, WE DON'T DO TERM LIMIT LIMITS ANYMORE. . SO WE WOULD IRON THAT ALL THAT OUT. AND UM, BUT WITH ALL THAT SAID, WE WOULD STILL BE SHORT ON MEMBERS AND, UM, WE KNOW MR. DESAI HAS BEEN TRAVELING AND WHATNOT AND I HAVE A PHONE CALL INTO HIM TO FIND OUT WHAT HIS SCHEDULE IS. UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH THE VARIOUS MEETINGS AND FIND OUT IF ANYONE HAS ANY SCHEDULED VACATIONS OR DATES WHERE THEY ALREADY KNOW THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE AVAILABLE. CLEARLY TONIGHT WE NEEDED TO HAVE UNANIMOUS VOTES ON ALL MATTERS AND EVERY VOTE TAKEN, UM, WITH THE FOUR OF US. SO THERE HAPPENS TO BE A PROJECT THAT WILL BE BACK ON THE DOCKET LIKELY, UM, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO THAT MR. PINES ALREADY RECUSED HIMSELF FROM VOTING. SO IF IT WAS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THAT PROJECT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN PERMITTED TO MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE EVEN IF THE THREE OF YOU WERE IN FAVOR OF VOTING A PARTICULAR WAY, WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD A QUORUM OF MEMBERS VOTING. SO THAT'S WHY I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO KNOW AHEAD OF TIME. I HAVE A PHONE CALL INTO MR. DESAI, I'LL SPEAK TO HIM. HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET SOME RELIEF WITH MS. ANDERSON, YOU KNOW, IN THE COMING WEEKS. BUT IF I'LL JUST GO THROUGH THE, UH, MEETING DATES AND IF, IF YOU KNOW NOW GREAT, OR AS YOU BECOME AWARE, JUST IF YOU WOULD SEND AN EMAIL INTO THE OFFICE, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL. SO OUR NEXT MEETING DUE TO HOLIDAYS IS MONDAY, APRIL 21ST. I SEE A THUMBS UP ON MICHELLE . NO THUMBS UP. I'M ED'S FINE. ALL RIGHT, GREAT. UM, AND ON THE TENTATIVE SCHEDULE WE MAY HAVE THE JACKSON AVENUE NURSERY ON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING AS WELL AS SOME OTHER PROJECTS. OKAY. UM MM-HMM . MIND, I'LL CAN, I'LL SAVE IT FOR WHEN YOU'RE DONE. OKAY. THE FOLLOWING MEETING WOULD WE'D BE BACK TO THE REGULAR FIRST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH. MAY 7TH. I'M GOOD. SEE FOUR THUMBS UP. GREAT. THEN FOLLOWING THE REGULAR THIRD WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH, MAY 21ST, I'M GONNA BE AWAY. ED WILL BE AWAY. SO I WILL MAKE THAT NOTE. FOLLOWING MEETING WOULD BE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF JUNE, JUNE 4TH. I, I WILL BE AWAY THAT THERE'S A CHANCE I'LL BE ABLE TO ZOOM IN, BUT I'D, I'D RATHER NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR QUORUM. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE THAT NOTE. I MAY OR MAY NOT, I, I'M BOOKING FOR JUNE, BUT I DON'T HAVE DATES YET. I MEAN, BUT IF I'M BOOKING, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT 'CAUSE I'LL BE IN SOUTH AFRICA AND IF I CAN BE CONSIDERED PRESENT, I'LL BE CONSIDERED. YOU CAN'T IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY. RIGHT. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND IT. , I REMEMBER YOU ASKED THAT. WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE. HAPPY TO MAKE MY LOCATION PUBLIC . WE APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY, SO JUNE 4TH, POTENTIALLY, POTENTIALLY MORE LIKELY JUNE 4TH I'M OKAY, BUT MORE LIKELY THAN THE ONE ELSE. THE SECOND. THE SECOND, OKAY. WHICH WOULD BE OUR REGULAR THIRD WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18TH. I'M GOOD POTENTIALLY MICHELLE. SO I'LL JUST MAKE A NOTE. OKAY, GREAT. AND THE REASON WHY, ANOTHER REASON WHY I AM BRINGING THIS UP IS WE'VE HAD SOME LIGHT AGENDAS OF LATE THAT'S GONNA CHANGE SOON. WE HAVE SOME BIG PROJECTS COMING DOWN THE PIPELINE AND IF WE KNOW IN ADVANCE THAT WE'RE JUST NOT GONNA HAVE A QUORUM PER A MEETING, WE CAN PLAN IN ADVANCE TO MODIFY THE MEETING DATE OR SELECT AN ALL, YOU KNOW, AN ALTERNATE WEDNESDAY. IF FOR INSTANCE, UM, I FORGET WHICH MONTH. I THINK IT'S JULY. THERE ARE ACTUALLY FIVE WEDNESDAYS. I AM GONNA BE AWAY THE FIFTH WEDNESDAY. UM, BUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT WE WOULD LOOK TO ARE, THOSE ARE MY, UM, THAT'S MY WAY. SO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET INTO TOO MUCH DETAIL, BUT THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS [00:40:01] COMING IN THE PIPE THAT ARE IN THE PIPELINE REALLY AND UNDER STAFF REVIEW, UM, THAT ARE LARGE SCALE. AND WE ALSO HAVE A STAFF INITIATED PROJECT THAT INVOLVES SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE THAT ULTIMATELY UNDER THE TOWN CODE THERE'S A REQUIREMENT THAT AMENDMENTS TO CHAPTER 2 85, WHICH IS OUR ZONING ORDINANCE GET REFERRED TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR A REPORT AND RECOMMENDATION. SO, UM, THERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE ZONING MAP AMENDMENTS INCLUDED WITH THOSE ZONING TEXT AMENDMENTS BECAUSE THERE'S A NEW DISTRICT OR ZONING DISTRICT THAT'S BEING CONTEMPLATED. SO YOU'RE GONNA GET A BULLETED LIST OF THE HIGH LEVEL, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT A, UM, LOOKING AROUND. WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH RESPECT TO THE ZONING TEXT AND MAP AMENDMENTS IS, UM, IT'S ANTICIPATED THAT EITHER LATER THIS MONTH OR IN MAY, THEY WILL BE REFERRED TO THE PLANNING BOARD. THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAPPEN, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S ANTICIPATED AT THE MOMENT. WHAT STAFF WOULD LIKE TO DO AND WILL DO IS UM, NOT ONLY PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, A SUMMARY OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET ALL THIS TEXT AND THERE'S GONNA BE STRIKETHROUGHS AND RED LINES AND UNDERLINES AND YOU CAN GET LOST IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT. SO WE'LL GIVE A SUMMARY AND THEN WE WILL BE AVAILABLE TO MEET WITH PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS IN EITHER INDIVIDUALLY OR IN SMALL GROUPS, NO MORE THAN THREE MEMBERS, UM, AT A TIME TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AHEAD OF TIME. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS, MAKE SURE YOU UNDERSTAND THE CHANGES IN TOTALITY. AND THAT WAY WHEN WE COME TO A BOARD MEETING TO DISCUSS SOME OF YOUR PRELIMINARY QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED AND THEN THERE CAN BE A HEALTHY DISCUSSION AMONGST THE BOARD. SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU THAT ADVANCE NOTICE AND THEN ALSO UNDERSTAND EVERYONE'S SCHEDULE. SO WE GO INTO JULY AND I THINK WHEN THE SCHEDULE WAS CREATED, IT ALL FELT LIKE 4TH OF JULY FESTIVITIES WON'T START UNTIL JULY 3RD. SO WE'LL HAVE A JULY 2ND MEETING. DO WE HAVE THUMBS UP ON JULY 2ND? I AGREE WITH THAT, UNLESS PEOPLE ARE TAKING DYLAN THUMBS UP. WE WE'LL DO THE BARBECUE. THAT'S A WEDNESDAY. WE, WE'LL DO THE BARBECUE AT 10:00 PM ON UH, ON THE SECOND MICHELLE, I'M GONNA HAVE TO LIKE, I'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT MY JUNE, JULY, SO, OKAY. SO JUST KEEP US POSTED. YEAH. LESLIE, NO. YEAH, I'M HERE. OKAY. AND THEN THE REGULAR THIRD WEDNESDAY, THE 16TH OF JULY. THUMBS UP MICHELLE STILL OKAY, I JUST DIDN'T KNOW HOW FAR OUT. YEAH. OKAY. SO I'LL MAKE A NOTE. MAKE ME IFFY IN JUNE AND JULY UNTIL I FIGURE OUT WHICH DATE. OF COURSE, I MEAN WE'RE MONTHS IN ADVANCE AND UM, SO THEN EVEN THOUGH I WILL BE AWAY, BECAUSE I TRY AND SCHEDULE OUTSIDE OF PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS WHEN I CAN, THERE IS IF FOR ANY REASON THERE WAS A MEETING WHERE WE JUST COULDN'T GET A QUORUM ON THE REGULAR DATES. THERE IS A FIFTH WEDNESDAY IN JULY, WHICH IS JULY 30TH. UM, BUT IF WE HAD TO PIVOT TO THAT DATE, THAT WOULD PUT US BACK TO BACK MEETINGS JULY 30TH BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AUGUST 6TH MEETING. WHEN IS THE ZONING COMING UP? LIKELY DUE IN JULY. SO THE ZONING REFERRAL IS LIKELY TO TAKE PLACE IN, IT WOULDN'T COME BEFORE THIS BOARD UNTIL MAY. IT COULD BE REFERRED IN LATE APRIL OR SOMETIME IN MAY BY THE TOWN BOARD. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, THE COMMISSIONER WOULD BE HERE TO WALK THE BOARD MEMBERS THROUGH. UM, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE THAT SUMMARY AHEAD OF, AHEAD OF TIME. YOU WOULD HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO COME IN AND MEET WITH US. NEVERTHELESS, JUST BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF CHANGES, IT MAY TAKE EVEN MORE THAN ONE MEETING JUST TO GET THROUGH THAT. UM, IF WE HAVE OTHER ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. SO AUGUST 6TH, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'M NOT HERE. NO. LESLIE. OKAY. OKAY. INTERESTING. WHO'S INTERIM WHEN LESLIE'S NOT HERE? WHERE? RIGHT. SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING BRIEFLY. UM, AND UH, WE HAVE PREP MEETINGS WITH THE CHAIR AND WE HAVE HAD THEM WITH THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR. WELL, WHEN LESLIE WAS APPOINTED CHAIR, WE DIDN'T HAVE A VICE CHAIR. WE STILL DON'T TECHNICALLY HAVE A VICE CHAIR, BUT DYLAN OFFERED TO BEGIN TO SIT IN ON THE PREP MEETINGS. HIS SCHEDULE SEEMS TO PERMIT IT. IT'S ONLY LIKE ANOTHER 10 HOURS A WEEK. HE SAID NO PROBLEM, HE'S GOT IT. WE SHOULD MAKE STAY UP ALL NIGHT. SHOULD OFFICIAL VICE CHAIR THEN. SO, UM, I THINK WHEN HE'S READY, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE BOARD TO RECOGNIZE. SO WHETHER THAT BE TONIGHT OR AT, IF YOU WANNA HOLD OFF? NO, WE'RE GONNA DO IT PUBLICLY. WAIT UNTIL FUTURE MEETING GONNA BE PUBLIC. I MEAN, I'M, I'M READY TO GO BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T, WE [00:45:01] DON'T NEED IT UNTIL AUGUST SO WE CAN NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. SO WE NEED IT, WE CAN DO IT OFFICIALLY NOW, BUT I DO WANT IT THE PUBLIC ANNOUNCEMENT AT A, AT A PLANNING BOARD MEETING. SURE. YEAH. RIGHT. YEAH. SO I MEAN IF, IF EVERYONE'S IN AGREEMENT WE CAN MAKE A NOTE IN THE MINUTES. YES. THAT PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS PRESENT THIS EVENING, YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF, OF MR. PINE BECOMING PLANNING BOARD VICE CHAIR AND THEN WE WOULD RECOGNIZE HIM BEGINNING NEXT MEETING AS VICE CHAIR. OKAY. I'M ON BOARD. GREAT. THANK YOU. FANTASTIC. THE FOLKS WITH YOU DON'T ON BOARD WITH IT? I'M ON BOARD. I TOLD 10 HOURS A WEEK. IT'S NOTHING. WELL, AS LONG AS IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT BUSY CONVERSATION. IT'S 10 HOURS. . UH, REGARDING ARE YOU FINISHED? OH, THROUGH THE SUMMER? UM, IF I CAN JUST GO THROUGH THE REST QUICKLY. I'M SORRY. HOW? I'M GONNA GO AND TALK OCTOBER. OKAY. 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT I HAVE ON THE LIST. SO THEN SCHOOL'S BACK, YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER'S HERE FIRST WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH, SEPTEMBER 3RD. AND SO WE'RE HAVING JUST ONE MEETING IN AUGUST RIGHT NOW. AND THAT'S TYPICAL FOR THE PLANNING PERIOD? YES. OKAY. WE GIVE YOU A LITTLE BREAK. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO SEPTEMBER 3RD, I KNOW THAT'S SEVERAL MONTHS OUT. YEAH, I MEAN LIKE I'M A THUMBS UP UNTIL, YOU KNOW, SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'LL SEND AS A REMINDER THE VARIOUS MEETING DATES OUT TO EVERYONE AGAIN, I KNOW THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL MONTHS OUT FROM NOW, IT'S HARD TO SAY, HEY, I DON'T KNOW MY SCHEDULE AT THE MOMENT. BUT AS YOU BECOME AWARE YOU HAVE THOSE MEETING DATES, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING GETS BOOKED AND IT HAPPENS TO BE ACROSS, UH, A PLANNING BOARD MEETING DATE, THE EARLIER WE KNOW THE BETTER. SO THAT'S APPRECIATED. I WON'T GO THROUGH THE REST SINCE IT'S SO FAR OUT. THANKS FOR YOUR TIME. OKAY. UM, SO ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO DISCUSS WAS SOME OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAVE, PRE-PLANNING MEETINGS AND HOW IT CAN BENEFIT YOU, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO TALK TO STAFF ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF MAYBE GETTING, UM, AS MUCH OF THE AGENDA AHEAD OF TIME. I THINK AT THIS TIME WE MIGHT HAVE PEOPLE, AND THIS IS NOT ON ANYONE, BUT A LOT OF US DO WORK AND SO WE GOT THAT FRIDAY AND WE GOT THE SATURDAY AND YOU KNOW, SO IT, AND IT MAY GET SQUEEZED AT TIMES. NOW I'M PARTICULARLY CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE NEW ZONING STUFF COMING DOWN, REALLY HAVING ENOUGH TIME TO SIT DOWN, READ IT EVEN BEFORE I HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU MM-HMM . AND I'M NOT SURE, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE CONCERNS OF EVERYONE ELSE. AND THEN THE OTHER THING THAT, UM, I WANTED TO BRING UP, I HAD MENTIONED WHEN I MET MOST OF YOU THAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT OR I WAS THINKING ABOUT HAVING PEOPLE SORT OF BE THE EXPERT IN CERTAIN THINGS AND IT SORT OF KEEPS COMING UP ORGANICALLY. MICHELLE, WITH THE STORM WATER. SORRY. NO, NO. I LOVE IT . SO, UM, JUST BEING ABLE TO LOOK AT SOME OF THE PLANS OR, OR SOME OF THE AGENDA ITEMS AND REALLY DIG DEEP ON THAT STORM WATER AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AVAILABLE FOR MAYBE ONE HOUR PRE PRE-PLANNING MEETINGS MM-HMM . SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND BE, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT SORT OF HASHED OUT OR REALLY PUT OUT THERE BEFORE WE GET TO THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING. THAT WOULD BE AWESOME. SO YEAH, SO SPEAKING TO YOUR FIRST POINT MM-HMM UM, FOR SPECIFICALLY WITH RESPECT TO THE ZONING TEXT AND ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT AMENDMENTS, PROPOSED STAFF WILL BE GETTING THAT, THOSE MATERIALS OUT TO YOU WELL AHEAD OF THE TYPICAL, YOU KNOW, THURSDAY, FRIDAY BEFORE THE MEETING. WE'RE GONNA GET YOU THE SUMMARY VERY SOON. WE'VE ALREADY SPOKEN WITH COMMISSIONER DUQUE ABOUT THAT, SO WE'LL GET THAT OUT BY EMAIL. SO YOU'LL HAVE THE SUMMARY AND THEN WE'LL LOOK TO GET YOU THE DOCUMENTS OUT. UM, AND THEN LOOK TO SCHEDULE THE MEETINGS IF YOU WANT TO COME INTO THE OFFICE AND MEET WITH US TO HAVE THAT ONE-ON-ONE OR YOU KNOW, A COUPLE OF YOU AND AT A TIME AS SCHEDULES PERMIT ALL BEFORE THE PROJECT'S ACTUALLY ON AN ACTUAL AGENDA WITH THE PLANNING BOARD. SO THANK YOU. THAT'S WHAT WE LOOK TO DO WITH STAFF. SOMETIMES WITH APPLICANTS IT'S A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT 'CAUSE THEY'RE SUBMITTING THE MATERIALS AND THERE'S AVAILABILITY ON THE NEXT AGENDA. BUT WHAT WE LIKE TO DO AT A MINIMUM IS WE KEEP THE CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR APPRISED OF PROJECTS AS THEY'RE COMING IN THE PIPELINE TO LET THEM KNOW AHEAD OF TIME AND WE CAN, WE CAN GET INTO THE PRACTICE OF ALERTING BOARD MEMBERS WHILE WE MAY NOT GIVE YOU THE MATERIALS, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS THE PROJECT COMES IN INITIALLY AND THIS, THIS MAY NOT BE SOMETHING THAT, IT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU NECESSARILY SEE, WHICH IS PROJECT COMES IN [00:50:01] FIRST, FIRST SUBMISSION. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHANGES THAT TAKE PLACE BASED ON THE VARIOUS IN-DEPTH STAFF REVIEWS THAT ARE CONDUCTED BY NOT ONLY OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT, OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT, OUR BUREAU OF ENGINEERING, OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT, FIRE DISTRICT OFFICIALS, UM, TRAFFIC AND SAFETY CONSULTANTS THAT COME IN AND THE PROJECT, YOU KNOW, CHANGES OFF THAT FIRST SUBMISSION MADE. WELL WE PUT THE FIRST SUBMISSION UP ON THE WEBSITE AND WE CAN ALERT YOU TO THE FACT THAT THERE'S A NEW PROJECT IN THE PIPELINE SO THAT YOU CAN BEGIN TO FAMILIARIZE YOURSELF WITH IT. THE PACKAGE YOU SEE MAY BE THE REFINED VERSION BASED ON RESPONSES AND, AND MODIFICATIONS MADE BASED ON STAFF COMMENTS, BUT IT WOULD ALERT YOU AHEAD OF TIME TO SOMETHING IN THE PIPELINE. SO I THINK WE CAN MAKE AN A CONCERTED EFFORT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THAT. MM-HMM YEAH, THAT'D BE GOOD. YEAH. UH, WAIT, AND ALSO DOES, DOESN'T PATRICIA GIVE US A LIST OF THE REMAINING OPEN PROJECTS SHE DOES? RIGHT. SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING, LIKE IF IT'S STILL AN OPEN PROJECT, EVENTUALLY IT'S GOING TO BE ON THE AGENDA, RIGHT? SO YEAH, SO THAT'S USUALLY DONE QUARTERLY. YOU GET A . SORRY, WHY ARE YOU LAUGHING? BECAUSE I ASK MATT AND I BOTHER MATT SO I CAN, I LIKE TO LIKE ELIMINATE MY PAPERWORK OVER TIME AND I ASKED HIM QUITE FREQUENTLY ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE LIKE PB 2014 THAT ARE STILL TECHNICALLY OPEN OPEN THAT COULD POTENTIALLY COME BACK AND SOME OF THEM HAVE, YEAH, WE HAVE A 2015 CASE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT APPEAR BEFORE THE BOARD SOMETIME THIS YEAR WE'LL SEE. YEAH. WELL YEAH, WE PROBABLY PAY MORE ATTENTION TO 22, 30, 24. BUT , YEAH, SO QUARTERLY OUR OFFICE MANAGER PUT THE, PUTS TOGETHER A A A LISTING OF CASES AND THERE'LL BE STRIKETHROUGHS IF, YOU KNOW, YOU WANT TO THROW SOME THINGS IN THE RECYCLE BIN, YOU'LL SEE IT'S STRICKEN THROUGH, YOU'RE FREE TO GET RID OF THOSE PAPERS. UM, BUT THEN YOU'LL SEE THE ACTIVE ONES, YOU KNOW, HAVE A NOTE NEXT TO THEM OR THEY'RE NOT STRICKEN THROUGH. SO WE DO THAT, WE TRY AND DO THAT QUARTERLY. SO YOU SHOULD ACTUALLY SEE ONE PRETTY SOON. MM-HMM. ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? THAT'S IT FOR ME. ALRIGHT, GREAT. 7 58, KEPT IT UNDER AN HOUR. HOPE EVERYONE HAS A GREAT EVENING AND WE WILL SEE YOU ON APRIL 21ST. SO DON'T COME HERE ON THE 16TH 'CAUSE OH, THAT MEANS A WONDERFUL EASTER EVERYONE. THANK YOU. YEAH, MR. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.