* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. SO [00:00:02] TODAY [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 CATHERINE LEDERER-PLASKETT Chair ] IS TUESDAY, MAY 6TH, 2025. THIS IS THE GREENBERG ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD CONVENING AT THE GREENBERG TOWN HALL IN THE LEE F JACKSON ROOM. I'D LIKE TO TAKE ATTENDANCE. UM, EDDIE MAY BARNES. EDDIE MAE BARNES OR IS YOUR, CAN YOU, IS YOUR MUTED? IS SHE MUTED? YEAH, SHE'S MUTED. RA BASSETT. OKAY. DONNA CHAMAN HERE. CATHERINE LETTER OF PLAST. HERE. WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT AT A PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE LOCATION, UM, TO CONVENE THIS MEETING. AND THIS MEETING IS BEING CALLED TO REVIEW AN APPLICATION FOR 300 WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE FOR VERIZON. 300 WEST HARSDALE AVENUE IS THE HARSDALE FIRE STATION. THE FIRST TIME, THIS, THIS IS NOT TYPICAL, NOT EVER NOT HEARD OF, BUT NOT TYPICAL. THE APPLICATION WAS ORIGINALLY SUBMITTED ON 6 7 20 23 AND WE HAD A MEETING ON 6 9, 20 23 2 DAYS LATER. AND THEN IT WAS RESUBMITTED NOW ON APRIL 29TH, 2025. AND WE ARE MEETING ON MAY 6TH, 2025, WHICH IS SEVEN DAYS LATER. UM, SO WHAT WE DO IS WE GO OVER WHAT HAS NOT BEEN PREVIOUSLY DEEMED COMPLETE. I DID GO TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT PRIOR TO THIS MEETING SO THAT I COULD SHOW THE APPLICANT'S ATTORNEY THAT WE ARE ONLY REQUIRING WHAT HAS BEEN REQUIRED IN THE PAST. THAT IS NOT MISS, THAT IS NOT INCLUDED IN THIS APPLICATION. UM, SO LET'S GET STARTED. GO COMPARING IT TO THE, UM, SUBMISSION FROM 6 7 20 23 ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO. A WAS COMPLETE, B WAS COMPLETE, C WAS COMPLETE, AND D WAS COMPLETE. E WAS COM I'M SORRY, ONE SEC. E WAS COMPLETE. AND THE F WE NEEDED AN UPDATED, IT WAS, UM, THE LEASE AGREEMENT WAS OLD AT THAT TIME AND IT HAS NOW BEEN SUBMITTED. AND ACCORDING TO, LEMME JUST OPEN THIS, IT DIRECTS US TO PA EXHIBIT C, PAGE 21. AND THIS IS DATED APRIL 1ST, 2025. SO IT IS AN UPDATED AGREEMENT. IT'S AN AFFIDAVIT OF OWNERSHIP FROM THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. SO, SO THAT MAKES F COMPLETE THEN G WAS COMPLETE, H IS COMPLETE. I IS COMPLETE. J WAS INCOMPLETE AT THE TIME. AND IT'S INTERESTING. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT IT. IT, I THINK IT'S COMPLETE, BUT I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY IT SAYS 91%. UM, IF YOU GO TO THE STRUCTURE , IT'S LIKE WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU'RE THE 9% OF THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY? CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS? UM, I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT, UH, I BELIEVE IT TO ME NOT BEING A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER. SO 91% CAPACITY MEANS THAT BASED ON THE CALCULATIONS IN THIS REPORT, IT IS, UM, UH, MY AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS UP TO 103 OR 105% UNDER STRUCTURAL REQUIREMENTS OF, UH, IS, IS ADEQUATE TO SUPPORT THE LOAD. SO, SO ANYTHING BELOW I THINK A HUNDRED, 305 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT WE, WE'LL, SINCE I'M NOT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER EVEN, LET'S JUST SAY A HUNDRED, ANYTHING BELOW THAT IS SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT THE LOAD THAT IS BE BELOW OR LOAD ANYTHING BELOW A HUNDRED PERCENT IS SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT THE LOAD. THAT WOULDN'T MAKE SENSE BELOW A HUNDRED PERCENT SUFFICIENT WOULD MAKE IT LESS SUFFICIENT? NO, UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT YOU CAN GO UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE LOAD. IT CAN CARRY UP TO, AND AGAIN, I THINK IT'S A HUNDRED, 305%, BUT FOR OUR PURPOSES, LET'S SAY A LOAD, IF, IF IT CAN HOLD, LIKE FOR, FOR, TO GIVE A STRANGE EXAMPLE MYSELF, I CAN CARRY LET'S SAY A HUNDRED POUNDS, RIGHT? [00:05:01] SO THAT MEANS I CAN CARRY UP TO A HUNDRED POUNDS. ANYTHING BELOW A HUNDRED POUNDS I CAN EASILY CARRY ANYTHING ABOVE A HUNDRED POUNDS IS GONNA BE A PROBLEM. SO UP TO A HUNDRED PERCENT OF A HUNDRED POUNDS I CAN CARRY, I THINK FRANCIS, YEAH, NO PUN HERE, WEIGH IN ON THIS. BUT THIS IS, UM, I'M GONNA JUST SHOOT YOU A PICTURE OF THIS BECAUSE I THINK THIS WE NEED SOME CLARIFICATION OF WHAT 90, I'VE NEVER EVER SEEN A PERCENTAGE BEFORE I, THAT I CAN RECALL ON AN APPLICATION RATHER THAN SUFFICIENT OR NOT SUFFICIENT. THAT'S NORMALLY THE WAY THIS, I I MEAN PERCENTAGES ARE, ARE FREQUENTLY IN, IN STRUCTURAL REPORTS, BUT THIS IS THE LETTER, THE STRUCTURAL REPORT WOULD EXPLAIN IT, YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURAL REPORT HAS, LET ME JUST, THE REPORT, THE REPORT IS SUBMITTED WITH THIS IS THE REPORT. I JUST THINK IT NEEDS AN EXPLANATION. BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY, YOU KNOW, MYSELF NOT BEING A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, I, I I BELIEVE YOU'RE YOUR BUILDING INSPECTOR AND THE TEAM REVIEWING THIS IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD SEE WHAT ALL WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO, TRYING TO DETERMINE, WORKING TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT IS COMPLETE OR NOT. AND THIS DOESN'T LESS BECAUSE WHAT WE NORMALLY GET, THE LETTER SAYS SUFFICIENT OR INSUFFICIENT, AND THE REPORT THEN GIVES THE DETAILS ON IT. AND BY PUTTING THIS NUMBER IN DOESN'T TELL ME IT'S SUFFICIENT. SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST ASKING FOR A SECOND OPINION. OKAY? SURE. DO YOU GET IT, FRANCIS? UH, YEAH, I DIDN'T GET THE FIRST ONE EITHER. OKAY. UM, ARE YOU, BUT ARE YOU, YOU'RE NOT ON YOUR PHONE, RIGHT? I I'M ON BOTH. OKAY. CAN YOU NOT BE ON YOUR PHONE IN CASE THAT'S WHAT'S STOPPING THINGS FROM COMING IN? IS IT SOMETIMES WE'VE HAD THIS PROBLEM HERE BEFORE WHERE WHEN I'VE SENT YOU THINGS AND WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING THIS WAY THEY DON'T ARRIVE. UM, I'M GOING TO EMAIL IT, SEE IF THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE. I'M NOT ON MY PHONE. I HAVE MY PHONE. OH NO, I I MEANT ON IT USING IT. OH NO, I'M NOT USING IT. UM, SO THIS IS THE STRUCTURAL ON PAGE 28, 23, LET'S SAY. UM, IT GIVES THE 91% AND UP HERE ABOVE IT GIVES THE SUMMARY OF, BUT IT DOESN'T TELL US WHAT THE 91 MEANS. SEE, I JUST SENT YOU, I JUST SENT YOU THE I SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE RIGHT. NOTE, NOTE NUMBER TWO ON THAT PAGE, DO YOU SEE NOTE NUMBER TWO? HMM. NOTE NUMBER TWO ON THAT PAGE? YEAH. WHAT PAGE? UH, PAGE 28. YEAH, NUMBER TWO SAYS WHAT HE SAID. OKAY, THAT ANSWERS IT. NOTE NUMBER TWO ANSWERS IT. GREAT. SO NOTE NUMBER TWO ON PAGE 25 ANSWERED THAT FRANCIS, I'M JUST STILL SELLING YOU SENDING YOU, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T GONNA TAKE, WE WEREN'T GOING TO SETTLE JUST FOR A PERCENTAGE. WHAT IT SAYS ON 25 IS IT SAYS IT'S NOT 25. WHAT PAGES DID YOU SAY? 28. 28. IT SAYS, UM, IN THE NOTES IT SAYS UNDER A CHART IT SAYS CAPACITY UP TO 105 ARE CONSIDERED ACCEPTABLE BASED ON ANALYSIS METHODS USED. AND THIS ONE SAYS 91 IN THE FUTURE, IF YOU CAN GET THEM TO PUT IT HERE ON THE FRONT, IF WE HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON THE FRONT PA ON THIS PAGE SO THAT IT DOESN'T BECOME A HUNT AND PECK. GOTCHA. OKAY. YOU CAN POINT THAT OUT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AS WELL. WILL DO. OKAY. WE WERE, UM, SO THEN G WAS COMPLETE. NO, I'VE DONE THAT ALREADY. SORRY. TRUCTURE COMPLETENESS. K WAS COMPLETE, L WAS COMPLETE, M WAS COMPLETE. WE HAVE A BIG NOT COMPLETE ON NEAR ONE, WHICH WAS INCOMPLETE. AND I WILL SHOW YOU [00:10:01] WHAT THE PROBLEM IS AND THAT'S WHAT I SPENT TIME BEFORE THIS MEETING GOING UP TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS BEEN IN OTHER APPLICATIONS. UM, AND I ALSO HAVE A FOLLOW UP QUESTION ABOUT THAT. YOU ARE REQUIRED TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE ANTENNAS. AND MAYBE I'M MISSING IT BECAUSE I DID MISS THIS NOTE, UM, WHERE THE POLICE ANTENNAS AND FIRE ANTENNAS ARE ALSO INCLUDED IN THE RF RESULTS. UM, THEY DID, THEY DID INCLUDE, INCLUDE IN THE CHART ON PAGE TWO OF UH, UH, PAGE SIX OF THIS FILE. WHICH, WHICH TAB IS IT? UM, TAB A. TAB A PAGE SIX. YEAH, PAGE SIX OF THE FILE. PAGE THREE OF THE REPORT. PAGE SIX OF THE BOTTOM. IT'S THAT ONE. IT, BUT IT DOESN'T GIVE US THE, THE RF. UM, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THIS. AND I I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT IT TOO. WHY ARE, WHY ARE THE NUMBERS DIFFERENT, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM DISH THAT IS UP THERE FROM WHAT YOU REPORT THEIR NUMBERS? HOW ARE THESE NUMBERS? I I'M LOOKING AT PAGE 14 AND THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS REQUIRE REQUIRED. AND WHAT DEPENDENTS ARE YOU ON? WE'RE ON, WE ARE ON A, IF YOU FOLLOW ON THIS LETTER, THERE'S A LETTER IN HERE IF YOU FOLLOW ON THIS, IT TELLS YOU WHERE THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS ARE. UM, SO N IS HERE AND THIS IS WHAT THE ANSWER IS. AND WHAT WE NEED IS A CHART AND I ONLY HAVE CHART 14, WHICH THE NUMBERS DIFFER FROM WHAT DISH JUST HANDED IN ABOUT THEIRS. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE MOST CURRENT, SO THAT'S WHY I GOT IT. BUT THEY, BUT ALSO REQUIRED IS NOT JUST THIS, IT'S A DIFFERENT CHART OF THE POLICE ANTENNAS AND FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT ARE UP THERE THAT BECAUSE THEY COMBINED AND THEN YOU GIVE A TOTAL OF WHAT THE EXPECTED, ANTICIPATED EXPOSURE IS. NOW I GOTTA PULL OUT THE RIGHT, HOW ARE THESE NUMBERS CALCULATED? BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT THAN OTHER CHARTS WE'VE RECEIVED. NOT, I'M NOT SURE HOW THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER CHARTS. UM, THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT. I MEAN THE NUMBERS, THE NUMBERS BEING DIFFERENT IS THIS, THIS REPORT GIVES THE, GIVES THE WORST CASE SCENARIO OF THE, SO DO ALL OF THESE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW IF, IF THE DISH REPORT WOULD GIVE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO OF THE THE DISH THING BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE AWARE OF THE WORST CASE SCENARIO IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR THE TOTAL. AND IT'S A REALLY INTERESTING QUESTION THAT YOU'RE RAISING BECAUSE IT SHOULD BE THE TOTAL OF ALL OF THE ANTENNAS UP THERE. WHAT IS THE WORST CASE? AND THAT'S WHAT WE ASK FOR. AND I'M A LITTLE, I'M HARING TOO MUCH HERE. I HAVE TO SLOW DOWN TO GIVE THIS TO YOU PROPERLY SO I CAN SHOW YOU. THIS IS THE ONE PROVIDED. AND WHEN I ADD UP THE NUMBERS, THEY DON'T COME OUT TO THE SAME NUMBERS. I JUST DID 20, 20 FEET. AND VERY HONESTLY, I CAN'T TELL YOU WHICH IS RIGHT AND WHICH IS WRONG. I'M JUST BEGINNING TO BE VERY CURIOUS [00:15:01] HOW THE NUMBERS ARE OBTAINED AND YOU ARE GIVING A REPORT THAT SOMEBODY ELSE SIGNED ONTO. BUT MAYBE WE NEED TO DRILL DEEPER INTO HOW PEOPLE ARE PRODUCING THESE REPORTS. DO YOU HAVE THE REST OF THIS REPORT? CURIOUS? I HAVE, BUT I'M NOT, THIS, THIS IS THE SHEET THAT YOU NEED. I'M TRYING TO SHOW, THIS IS MY QUESTION OF THIS, BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU'RE MISSING. IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO MATCH THEIRS. NO, I CAN SHOW YOU, SEND YOU THIS SHEET. AND WHEN I DID THIS, I ADDED UP BECAUSE THEY GAVE ME MULTIPLE FISH CONSIDERATIONS. WE NEED THAT, WE NEED FOR ALL ANTENNAS ON THE SITE. CAN I SEE THE REST OF THE REPORT THOUGH? I JUST WANNA SEE. I I CANNOT, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU CAN GO UPSTAIRS AND DO IT. I'M RESPONSIBLE FOR RETURNING SINCE IT'S ALL LOOSE PAPERS. YOU CAN GO UPSTAIRS AND LOOK AT IT OR ASK THEM TO EMAIL IT TO YOU. OKAY. 'CAUSE THEY CAN DO THAT. BUT I MIGHT BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT IF I COULD JUST SEE THE CONTEXT OF THE CHECK. BUT YOU'RE NOT, WE JUST WENT THROUGH THIS ON THE 91%. THIS IS NOT, THIS IS MAYBE WHAT I'M ASSUMING AND MAY THESE DAYS ASSUME EVERY ODD COUPLE COME TO MY LIFE A LOT. WHAT I'M ASSUMING IS THIS WAS PRODUCED BY AN ENGINEER. I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND AS I SAID BEFORE, AND I AGREE WITH YOU, I'M NOT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, BUT WE WERE ABLE TO SOLVE THAT JUST BY GOING INTO THE REPORT ONCE WE UNDERSTOOD. SO LOOK IN YOUR REPORT, MAYBE IT'LL TELL YOU NO, I NEED, I I I'M NOT NO, BUT WHAT I'M SAYING IS I, YOU'RE HANDING ME, OKAY, I'M SHOWING YOU WHAT THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS TO SHOW YOU YOU DON'T HAVE THIS, WE NEED THIS. MY QUESTION WAS DIFFERENT AND NOT, IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU INCOMPLETE THAT YOU HAVE DIFFERENT NUMBERS. I JUST WANT AM NOW GOING TO GET, BE SURE THAT WE ADD TO THE LAW THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A TOTAL EXPLANATION OF HOW THE NUMBERS ARE OBTAINED BECAUSE THEY ARE DIFFERENT. AND IF YOU, AND SO THAT'S, YOU'RE A LAWYER, YOU'RE NOT THIS, YOU DIDN'T PUT THE THING TOGETHER, SOMEONE SIGNED IT. THAT'S PART OF OUR CRITERIA. BUT NOW I'M REALIZING AFTER HOW MANY YEARS THAT WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW HOW THESE NUMBERS ARE OBTAINED. AND THEN HOW MEANINGLESS DO THEY BECOME IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE ESTABLISHED? I CAN UN UN UNDERSTOOD. I MEAN THE, THE, THIS UNDERSTOOD. I GUESS IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S YOUR QUESTION, I, AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE NUMBERS REPRESENT BECAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WELL, THEY REPRESENT THE DISTANCE, JUST LIKE HERE AT THE SAME THING THAT YOU GAVE US. YOU HAVE THE SAME, YOU HAVE THE SAME INSTALLATIONS. RIGHT? BUT I I I HAVE THE SAME DISTANCE ON THE SIDE EXCEPT YOU START AT 10 AND THEY START I THINK AT ZERO. RIGHT? BUT I I I MEAN THAT'S THAT YOU'RE TELLING ME. AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND THAT DOES IS WHAT APPEARS TO BE UNTIL I CAN SEE THE REST OF THE REPORT. SO I CAN READ WHAT IT'S SAYING. IT'S, SO WHY DON'T YOU TELL US HOW YOURS IS CREATED, BUT ARE WE CLEAR THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THIS AND YOU NEED THIS? I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. YOU MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE IT? WE DO HAVE THE CHART. YOU DON'T, BUT THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE POLICE, THE FIRE. WELL IT DOES INCLUDE THE, THE HARTSDALE FIRE DISTRICT, WHICH I THINK THEY, WE NEED THIS SEPARATE. SEE HOW THIS HAS THE WESTCHESTER IT AUDIT, IT HAS HARTSDALE FIRE WESTCHESTER COUNTY AND IT HAS THE DIFFERENT NUMBERS ON IT. I THINK THEY, THEY INCLUDED THE AS THE MUNICIPAL ANTENNAS ARE RIGHT HERE UNDER NOT ACCEPTABLE, UNDER THE DALE FIRE. NOT ACCEPTABLE. NOT ACCEPTABLE. OKAY. WE NEED THIS BECAUSE AS THEY, AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM THEY SAY, UM, AS INDICATED, THE MAXIMUM CALCULATIONS OVERALL RF LEVELS 8 9 8 0.9394, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN YOURS, WHICH IS FIVE. SO YOU'RE, THIS IS, WE NEED THEM TO HAVE INFORMATION HERE BECAUSE THIS DIFFERS AND WE NEED THAT. AND WE HAVE ALWAYS REQUIRED THIS. AND WE DO NOT ACCEPT YOU LUMPING SOMETHING TOGETHER AND WE HAVEN'T ACCEPTED IT ON WATER TOWERS FOR THE NEW YORK STATE POLICE. SO ARE WE CLEAR WHAT YOU NEED? YES, I GUESS SO. SO THE HARTSDALE FIRE DISTRICT, YOU WANT BROKEN DOWN INTO, WE WANT EVERY ANTENNA UP THERE, RIGHT? WHICH I'M SAYING WITH AN RF LEVEL. CORRECT. AND IF THERE ARE MORE UP THERE NOW THAN WHEN DISH PUT IT IN, THEN YOU HAVE TO INCLUDE THOSE TWO. GOTCHA. I CAN'T GET A COPY OF THAT DISH REPORT. YOU CAN GET IT IF YOU ASK THEM TO EMAIL IT TO YOU, ASK THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT TO EMAIL IT TO YOU. I WAS EXPECTING THAT THEY WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO ME TO TAKE DOWN, BUT WOULD EMAIL IT. BUT THEY GAVE ME WITH THE HIGH AUTHORITY TO BE RESPONSIBLE AND ALL I NEED IS THESE LOOSE PAPERS TO DROP AND THEY'LL BE ALL OUT OF ORDER AND THEN IT'S MINE. MY RESPONSIBILITY. SO, AND I, I DO, I WANNA UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND HOW YOU, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THESE NUMBERS WERE PUT TOGETHER [00:20:01] AND WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE CODE BECAUSE THAT IS IMPORTANT. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THE DISH LEVELS, WHICH SHOULD HAVE BEEN AVAILABLE THROUGH THIS, THROUGH ANYBODY WHO PASSED THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET IT FROM THE DISH APPLICATION. WHAT DISH WAS REPRESENTING THAT DIFFER? AFFIRM. SO THAT IS INCOMPLETE. I MEAN I, I CAN TELL YOU HOW WE CAME TO OUR NUMBERS. IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE REPORT. IT'S SURE SECTION THREE UH, EXPLAINS HOW, UH, AND WHAT MODELING THAT THE EBI USED TO COME UP WITH THEIR NUMBERS. SO SECTION THREE, THE FIRST PARAGRAPH SAYS EBI HAS PERFORMED THEORETICAL MPE MODELING USING WHAT? I'M SORRY, WHICH PAGE ARE YOU ON? UH, THIS IS PAGE ZERO SEVEN. IT SAYS EBI HAS PERFORMED THE THEORETICAL MPE MODELING USES USING IXUS SOFTWARE TO ESTIMATE THE WORST CASE POWER DENSITY AT THE SITE'S NEARBY BROADCAST LEVELS. SUBJECT FROM THE OPERATION OF ANTENNAS IX US IS A WIDELY USED PREDICTIVE MODELING PROGRAM TO PREDICT RF POWER DENSITY VALUES AND ROOFTOP AND TOWER TELECOMMUNICATION SITE PRODUCED BY VERTICAL COLINE ANTENNAS THAT ARE TYPICALLY USED FOR CELLULAR PCS PAGING AND OTHER COMMUNICATION SERVICES USING THE COMPUTATIONAL METHODS SET FORTH IN FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION, OFFICE OF ENGINEERING AND TECHNOLOGY BULLETIN 65 EVALUATING COMPLIANCE WITH FCC GUIDELINES FOR HUMAN EXPOSURE TO RADIO FREQUENCY ELECTROMAGNETIC FIELDS. IXUS CALCULATES PREDICTED POWER DENSITY IN THE SCALABLE GRID BASED ON THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF ALL OUR RF SOURCES CHARACTERIZED IN THE STUDY SCENARIO AND THEN IT GOES ON. BUT THAT'S HOW THEY CAN'T GET THESE NUMBERS. SO THEY USE A STANDARD, UM, THEORETICAL MODELING PROGRAM THAT IS, UM, AND YOUR COMPANY IS THAT YOU USE MBI. OKAY, SO YOU USED TO USE PINNACLE I THINK, BUT THEY USE PINNACLE AND IT'S PINNACLE'S TECHNOLOGY AND IT'S THERE SOMETHING IS REMI AMISS HERE IF THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT. AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT FRANCIS AND DONNA, HOW, AND EDDIE MAY, HOW WE MAKE THIS SO THAT WE DON'T GET VARYING DIFFERENT NUMBERS OF THE DEGREE. UM, ALSO WE NEED THE COMBINED IMPACT AS DISH GIVES IT TO US IN THIS AS EIGHT POINT SOMETHING FOR THE POLICE AND THE FIRE AS WELL AS THE OTHER, THE CELL PROVIDERS UP THERE. OKAY, SO THEN TWO, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WE DID THAT, BUT WE DEEMED TWO COMPLETE AT THE TIME BECAUSE TWO IS USUALLY RELIANT ON ONE, BUT TWO AND THREE WERE COMPLETE AND, AND O WAS COMPLETE. THEN WE GET TO THE NOISE, UH, PROFILE AND I AM UNCLEAR WHY YOU REMOVED YOUR OTHER ANSWER AND SIMPLY SAID THERE'S NO GENERATOR. I, 'CAUSE THERE'S NO REPORT HERE. AND NOW THE ANSWER, THE ONLY ANSWER TO THIS IS WHAT SHE HAD YOUR APPLICATION. UM, THERE. THIS IS NOT A NOISE PRODUCING, THERE'S NOT A NOISE PRODUCING GENERATOR TO BE INSTALLED OR REPLACED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROPOSED WORK. IT SAYS A NOISE PROFILE OF THE PROPOSED EQUIPMENT CLEARLY SHOWING COMPLIANCE WITH THE APPLICATION APPLICABLE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER THREE 80 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF, OF GREENBERG. THE RESPONSE LAST TIME YOU WROTE AND YOU'VE NOW OMITTED IT, WHICH IS BEYOND ME. UM, THIS IS NOW YOU WROTE THE SAME THING AND THAT WAS NOT ACCEPTABLE THEN IT'S NOT ACCEPTABLE. NOW THIS IS THE KIND OF ANSWER IT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES. [00:25:01] I APOLOGIZE I COULDN'T FIND MINE AND I KEEP MANY OF THEM, BUT SORRY. P PLEASE SEE THE ACOUSTICAL EVALUATION REPORT DATED SEPTEMBER 19TH, 2023. THIS IS SENTENCE, UM, AND PREPARED BY AND AND SIGNED BY INCLUDING AN EXHIBIT G, WHICH DEMONSTRATES THAT DISH'S PROPOSED CO-LOCATED EFR COMPLIES WITH THE APPLICABLE NOISE LIMITS SET FORTH IN THREE 80 OF THE CODE OF TOWN OF GREENBURG. AND IF YOU GO TO IT, WHICH YOU GET A REPORT ACOUSTIC EVALUATION OF PROPOSED. AND WE HAD DEEMED IT INCOMPLETE AT THE TIME BECAUSE IT DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION WE ASKED NOR PROVIDE A REPORT. AND IT STILL DOES NOT. THERE IS, UH, YOU PROVIDED FOR Q YOU PROVIDED A WORK SCHEDULE THAT IS ACCEPTABLE. SO Q IS NOW COMPLETE. UM, THE ANSWER TO R IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER. THE EXISTING FACILITY CONCEALMENT ELEMENTS INCLUDING THE ANTENNA COLOR AND FENCING AT THE PROPERTY, THE COLOR OF THE PROPOSED ANTENNAS WILL MATCH THE COLOR OF THE EXISTING ANTENNAS. WHAT ARE THEY INCLUDED IN YOUR ANSWER? AND INCLUDE WHAT, WHAT THAT CONSTITUTES ALSO YOUR ANSWER THAT SAYS, UM, MOREOVER, THE FENCE SURROUNDING THE COMPOUND WILL NOT CHANGE. WHAT IS THE FENCE 'CAUSE SURROUNDING THE COMPOUND SO THAT PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT CHANGING AND WHAT IS THE CONDITION OF IT. IF IT INCLUDES SLA SLATS, THEN WE NEED TO KNOW WHETHER THE SLATS ARE IN GOOD SHAPE. WE WENT THROUGH THIS WITH THE ROSEMONT THAT THEY, THAT WE WENT THROUGH THE EXACT SAME THING WHERE WE THEN WENT OVER AND PHOTOGRAPHED THAT THE SLATE SLATS WERE BROKEN AND THEY NEEDED REPLACING. I THINK THE FENCE IS ACTUALLY WITH BLACK, BLACK SLATS IN IT AND WE HAVE TO SEE THAT THEY'RE, THAT THEY ARE IN GOOD CONDITION. DONNIE, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD? NO. OKAY, ON S LET'S DO THIS TOGETHER BECAUSE THEN I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT IS REQUIRED BECAUSE IT'S, IT DOESN'T HAVE THE ELEMENTS. [00:30:12] SO IT SAYS A, A PLAN ILLUSTRATING THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION, SIZE, ELEVATION, AND HEIGHT OF ALL PROPOSED AND EXISTING ANTENNAS. I'M NOT SEEING, OKAY, SO I'M ACTUALLY NOT SEEING PLAN OF APPROXIMATE LOCATIONS. SO IF WE GO, SO THERE'S A GENERAL PLAN MISSING. I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE, WHICH I WILL IN A MOMENT. BUT LET'S GO ON TO THE UM, SIZE ELEVATION, HEIGHT OF ALL PROPOSED AND EXIST. ALL PROPOSED AND EXISTING ANTENNAS AND ALL APP PERTINENT STRUCTURES IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THE DIMENSIONAL CHANGES TO THE ELIGIBLE STRUCTURE SUPPORT STRUCTURE AS A RESULT OF THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS. SO I WENT TO C3 AND I DID NOT STARTING AT THE BOTTOM, I DID NOT SEE ANY OF THE OTHER APP PERTINENT STRUCTURES. I DIDN'T SEE ANY LAYOUT. AND I WILL SHOW YOU HOW IT SHOULD LOOK BECAUSE WE HAVE A RECENT APPLICATION THAT IS WHAT WE'VE REQUIRED OF EVERY APPLICANT. SO YOU CAN BETTER SEE IT THEN. WE DON'T HAVE THE HEIGHT OR THE, WE DON'T HAVE THE OTHER STRUCTURES IN HERE. WE DON'T HAVE THE ANTENNAS AT THE TOP. WHO OWNS THE WHIP ANTENNA? WE DON'T HAVE WHO'S HERE? THIRD LINE DOWN. MAYBE THERE'S A GOOD ANSWER TO THIS AND I'M MISSING IT, BUT IT SAYS TOP OF ANTENNA. I DON'T KNOW WHOSE THAT IS ON THE RIGHT SIDE. THIRD LINE DOWN. THAT'S VERIZON'S ANTENNAS, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THAT. RIGHT? AND IT SAYS IT ON THE LEFT. PUT IT THERE TOO SO THAT I DON'T HAVE, HAVE TO CALL YOU UP AND ASK YOU. I'M SORRY I'M SOUNDING REALLY RUDE. AND I DON'T MEAN TO, I'M JUST VERY FRUSTRATED. WE'VE DONE THIS WAY TOO LONG TO BE HERE. SO WE NEED ALL THE PERTINENT STRUCTURES, WE NEED ALL ANTENNAS IDENTIFIED, UH, IDENTIFIED. WE NEED ALL HEIGHT, WE NEED ALL OF EVERYTHING. AND WHO OWNS IT? THERE'S AN EXISTING WHIP ANTENNA WHO'S GOT NO IDEA. IT ALSO SAYS IT. SO HERE YOU HAVE THE SHERWIN WILLIAM COLOR. 7 0 0 5, MOVE THAT TO R THAT'S WHERE IT ASKS THE QUESTION YOU WRITE EXISTING TO MATCH. SO PUT THAT COLOR THERE, BUT IT DOES NOT TELL US WHAT THE PERTINENT UH, PERTINENT, PERTINENT STRUCTURES ARE COLORED. OKAY? OKAY, WE HAVE THE COLOR DONE HERE. 'CAUSE THAT IS HERE. WHERE IS SIGNAGE HERE? THE, THE LOCATION? YEAH, IT'S ON C ONE. A BOLD NOTE TO THE LEFT, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PAGE. BOLD NOTE TO THE LEFT. IN THE MIDDLE. OKAY, SO HOW MANY [00:35:01] SIGNS DOES VERIZON HAVE? THAT IS FAR PROPOSED. IT HAS THREE, CORRECT? THAT'S GENERALLY WHAT IT IS. THE TWO, WHERE'S THE TOWN SIGN GOING? WHICH TOWN SIGN? WE REQUIRE THAT THE PERMIT NUMB. THE PERMIT. THESE, THESE TWO ONE C FOUR. THOSE THAT SIGN THE TOP SIGN? YES. THAT'S THE TOWN SIGN. THE OTHER YOU'RE REQUIRED BY LAW TO POST. SO THAT'S, SO C ONE SAYS THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE GOING AND IT SAYS C DETAIL FOUR C FOUR DETAIL FOUR C FOUR IS THE SIGNAGE. OKAY. AND LIGHTING. LIGHTING IS EXISTING. IF YOU LOOK AT C, UM, TWO PROPOSED EQUIPMENT PLAN, IT SAYS ON BOTH, BUT PROPOSED EQUIPMENT PLAN, I'M SORRY I CAN'T HEAR YOU ON THE PROPOSED. IT SAYS ON BOTH, BUT ON, YOU CAN LOOK AT EITHER ONE. THE PROPOSED EQUIPMENT PLAN THAT SAYS EXISTING TIMED EQUIPMENT MAINTENANCE LIGHT, IT'S POINTING TO THOSE LIGHTS ON THE, WHICH IS, UH, ABOVE THE EQUIPMENT. YEAH. GOT IT. AND THEN IT SAYS AT THE TOP IT SAYS EXISTING LIGHT TIMER. SO THAT'S WHERE IT'S TURNED ON. IT'S TURNED ON. IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL LIGHTING PROPOSED? THERE IS NOT. OKAY. IT WOULD BE GOOD TO PUT A BOX ON THIS THAT SAYS NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IS PROPOSED. NO, WE HAVE BUT LIGHTING IS HERE. SO I'M GOING TO ITEMIZE WHEN WE'RE DONE WHAT WE NEED ON THESE PLANS OF THE PERTINENT STRUCTURES. I'VE UNDERLINED IT ALL, BUT WE HAVE UM, I WILL WRITE IT OUT, BUT YOU NEED TO INCLUDE ALL THE IN PERTINENT STRUCTURES. YOU NEED TO INCLUDE, UM, ALL OWNERSHIP OF ANTENNAS IDENTIFYING THEM ALL. HE IS NOW COMPLETE. IT IS THE SIGNAGE U IS COMPLETE, IT WAS COMPLETE BEFORE. AND V FRANCIS THE UM, THE SECTION, LEMME PULL IT UP. I'M SORRY, I'M, I'M, I'M BRINGING IT BACK UP TO MY, ON MY SCREEN. AN ISSUE AT THE BACK OF YOUR INSURANCE, IT SAYS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE INSURANCE, RIGHT? CORRECT. ALRIGHT, SO I THINK ON THE WORKER'S COMP IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL, BUT JUST BE AWARE WHEN YOU USE 1 0 6 0 7, UH, YOU HAVE TO PUT GREENBURG NEW YORK. IF YOU PUT WHITE PLAINS NEW YORK, YOU HAVE TO USE 1 0 6 0 3. SO THAT'S NOT ENOUGH. BUT THEIR MORE SERIOUS ISSUE IS ACTUALLY ON THE CERTIFICATE OF LIABILITY INSURANCE WHERE IT ASKS FOR THE DESCRIPTION OF OPERATIONS SLASH LOCATION SLASH VEHICLES. AND ALL THAT'S WRITTEN THERE IS CERTIFICATE HOLDER IS AN ADDITIONALLY INSURED BY WRITTEN CONTRACT IN THAT SPACE, IT HAS TO IDENTIFY LOCATION, WHERE THE ANTENNAS ARE AND THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS, UM, AN ADDITIONALLY INSURED GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION. YES. RIGHT? AND THE ADDRESS. AND WE HAVE, UH, AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS EXAMPLES OF HOW THAT'S BEEN HANDLED ON EVERY OTHER APPLICATION. BUT IT DOES SAY DESCRIPTION OF OPERATIONS, LOCATIONS AND VEHICLES, NOT JUST THAT WE'RE AN ADDITIONAL INSURED. YOU CAN PUT THE SITE, SOME PEOPLE PUT THE, THE SITE, YOU KNOW, THEIR OWN SPECIFIC SITE NUMBER, BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, IT NEEDS TO ACTUALLY HAVE THE POSTAL ADDRESS. [00:40:08] SO LOCATION IS POSTAL ADDRESS? YES. YES, BUT THEY CAN INCLUDE THEIR OWN SITE NUMBER. SOMETIMES THEY ALMOST ALWAYS HAVE THEIR OWN SITE NUMBER. THEY CAN INCLUDE THAT THERE AS WELL. BUT IT, IT DOES NEED TO HAVE THE POSTAL ADDRESS. WHEN IT SAYS WHITE PLAINS, WHAT IS THE ZIP ONE? OH 6 0 3. OKAY. SO WHAT I HAVE HERE IS FOR THE PROPERTY INSURANCE, UM, IN THE SPACE MUST IDENTIFY POSTAL ADDRESS LOCATION OF WHERE THE ANTENNAS ARE LOCATED. AND TOWN OF GREENBURG MUST BE IDENTIFIED AS ADDITIONALLY INSURED. IT IS ADDITIONAL INSURED. AND THEN UNDERNEATH WORKERS' COMP, BE AWARE THAT 1 0 6 0 7 REQUIRES GREENBERG 1 0 6 OH OF PO 1 0 6 0 3 IS USED WHEN THE ADDRESS IS WHITE PLAINS PO. RIGHT? AND IF THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS WRONG, HE WOULD WOULD JUST SAY, OKAY, DO IT CORRECTLY NEXT TIME. BUT THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE CHANGED. SO THERE MIGHT WELL CHANGE AS WELL. THAT WAS AN AGREEMENT THAT THE TOWN HAD WITH THE POSTAL SERVICE WHEN THEY LET US USE THE TERM GREENBERG, NEW YORK. UM, BUT BY PUTTING THE ZIP CODE THAT GREENBERG IS NOT, THAT THE TOWN HALL IS NOT IN, IT TRIGGERS THEIR, THEIR, UM, ELECTRONICS TO IDENTIFY IT AS BEING THE UNIQUE TOWN HALL WITH THE GREENBERG ADDRESS. OKAY, LET'S SEE HOW THIS, SO GOING THROUGH THIS, JUST TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT ALL BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE. UM, ONE V-A-B-C-D ARE COMPLETE. E-F-G-H-I-J-K ARE COMPLETE. LM ARE COMPLETE. NI HAVE IT. WHAT I HAVE HERE IS WHERE ARE THE NEW YORK STATE AND POLICE ANTENNAS? UM, THE CHARTS MUST INCLUDE ALL ANTENNAS AT WORST CASE SCENARIO, INCLUDING ALL FIRE, COUNTY, STATE, ET CETERA. TALLY MUST BE PROVIDED FOR ALL LOCATED THERE. SO TWO WAS COMPLETE, THREE WAS COMPLETE. O WAS COMPLETE. P THE NO NOISE PROFILE. WHAT IS NEEDED IS A NOISE REPORT SHOWING IN COM IN COMPLIANCE WOULD BE GOOD. IT COMPLIES, IT WOULD BE GOOD IF I FINISH NEEDED NOISE REPORT SHOWING IT COMPLIES WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. CODE [00:45:03] Q IS COMPLETE. R WHAT IS THE COLOR OF THE ANTENNA? AND THE URS ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE COLORS? ARE THE ANTENNAS AND THE URS, WHAT DOES THE FENCE LOOK TO? WHAT DOES THE FENCE LOOK LIKE? CAN CAN I ASK THE QUESTION ABOUT? SURE. SO THE ANTENNAS, THE, THE COLORS THERE, THE PERS WELL IT'S ACTUALLY NOT IN YOUR ANSWER. YOU IN THE ANSWER. SO YOU JUST WANT IT HERE BECAUSE YOU, IT BECAUSE THAT, AND THAT ANSWERS THE LATER QUESTION. THAT'S WHY WE CHECKED IT ON S BECAUSE YES. OKAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE, I DON'T IT'S ON THE PLANS, BUT WE DO NEED YOU TO PUT IT, YES. OKAY. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I DON'T HAVE TO, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE AURS ARE. 'CAUSE THAT'S IN THE, THOSE THAT'S ON THE PLANS TOO. WHERE IS THAT ON THE PLANS? I SAW THE ANTENNA. I DIDN'T SEE THE C FOUR AND THE, YOU KNOW THE MATERIALS, THE ALUMINUM, THE COLORS, GRAY, WHITE. THAT'S THE WAY IT COMES. THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY PAINTED. THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE DO. DOES THE GRAY WHITE HAVE A NAME? I, I DON'T THINK IT HAS A NAME BECAUSE IT'S DESIGNED THAT WAY. IT'S NOT A PAINT. OKAY. SO IT'S JUST MANUFACTURED YOU METAL. THEN JUST PUT THIS AS THE MANUFACTURED GRAY WHITE ON SOMETHING. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO IT HERE, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO DO IT ON THE, CAN I PUT IT IN THE LETTER? OKAY. OH, SO THE FENCE, WHAT'S IT, WHAT'S IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT'S ITS CONDITION? S ALL OF THE, AND ACE MUST BE INCLUDED AND IDENTIFIED WITH INFORMATION STATED. STATED ABOVE WOULD BE REQUIRED ABOVE, BUT STATED ABOVE. T IS COMPLETE. U IS COMPLETE. THE INSURANCE IS INCOMPLETE. I DID NOT CHECK A BOX IN WORKERS' COMP BECAUSE TECHNICALLY YOU PROVIDED IT, BUT THE ZIP CODES ARE WRONG. SO YOU CAN GET THAT. I MADE BOTH FIXED. YEAH. OKAY. SO I'M GOING IS THE INITIAL EVERYTHING. SO CAN WE HAVE A VOTE NOW I MOVE THAT WE NEED THIS APPLICATION INCOMPLETE. DO I HAVE A SECOND? YES. YES. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. OH GOOD. HI EDDIE, MAY AYE YOU'VE BEEN UNMUTED. YOU'VE BEEN SET FREE. OKAY. UM, OKAY, CAN YOU READ OVER THIS AND SEE IF IT'S CLEAR AND IF THAT IS GOOD FOR YOU AND YOU SHOULD ASK THEM TO SEND YOU THE APPLICATION. I, I CAN'T RESPONSIBILITIES TO THE, OH, I WANNA ADD ONE THING TO THAT. GIVE THAT BACK. UM, MIKE JUST WANNA ADD HERE, THREE, A PLAN OF THE SITE. [00:50:27] WHAT IS IT? WHAT WAS THE ONE YOU JUST ADDED? A PLAN THAT IS REQUIRED. WHAT, WHAT YOU HAVE HERE REALLY IS NOT A PLAN. I CAN SHOW YOU WHAT IS, THIS IS LIKE, LET ME SHOW YOU. THIS IS A PLAN. IT'S, IT'S, WE CAN SEE MORE, WE CAN SEE WHERE IT IS. OR THERE'S EVEN A BETTER ONE COMING UP, COMING YOUR WAY. THIS IS A PLAN, BUT THIS IS, THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS ACTUALLY DOESN'T FILL THAT NEED. DISREGARD AGAIN. HAS THAT BEEN THE ONLY THING? WE MIGHT'VE HAD A DIFFERENT CONVERSATION. THIS IS ALSO, THEY CONSTANTLY PUT THINGS IN LIKE THIS, WHICH IS NICE. FRINGING ON YOUR SPACE. KEEP GETTING FURTHER OVER. I THINK IT'S THE FIRST ONE THAT I, SO THIS IS THE BEST I HIDING RIGHT NOW. BUT SEE IT GIVES US THIS STREETS, IT GIVES US THE AREA. THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT DOES IN MIND. THIS IS WHAT I HAVE. IT GIVES THE STREETS, SHOWS THE BUILDING, SHOWS WHERE THE SITE IS AT AVENUE. DO YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN PROXIMITY? CLOSENESS? I CAN ACTUALLY READ THINGS HERE AND THERE'S A CONTRAST HERE. AND THERE'S NOT HERE. OR AM I NOT BEING CLEAR TO YOU? SEE THAT'S IN COLOR. COLOR. IF YOU WANT, IF YOU CAN EVEN PUT DARKER LINES IT JUST LOOK AT HOW THIS DESIGNS, I MEAN I COULD GET, THIS IS THE SAME THING. IT'S COLOR, COLOR BETTER AND TALLER. I CAN'T READ THE SMALL ONE. NO, I KNOW IT'S SMALL, BUT IT'S BUT IT ACTUALLY IDENTIFIES BETTER WHERE THINGS ARE. YES. OKAY. CAN I, CAN I ASK ONE, ONE COMMENT JUST SO WHEN I READ THE, A WEEK FROM NOW, THAT'S EXACTLY, YEAH. SO THIS ONE ANTENNA. CAN YOU JUST SAY IN THE LETTER? SURE. JUST THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT. SO [00:55:01] THANK YOU. OTHERWISE WORKS. IS IT CALLED IN LETTER OR IS IT APPLICATION LETTER? UM, OR IS LETTER ENOUGH? LETTER ENOUGH. OKAY. SO YOU WANT TAKE A LOOK AT, OH, YOU'VE GOT INITIAL EVERYTHING. IT'S FINE. JUST THE TOP. OR DO YOU WANT ME TO DO WHEREVER YOU'RE COMFORTABLE? BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA GET A COPY OF IT ANYWAY, SO, SO WE'RE GOING TO PAUSE THE RECORDING SO THAT I CAN RUN THIS UP TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND GET YOU A COPY AND STAMPED. OKAY. HERE IS YOUR STAMPED COPY. I DID TELL THEM UPSTAIRS THAT THEY SHOULD SEND YOU THAT YOU'LL REQUEST AND THEY SHOULD SEND YOU THAT APPLICATION SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT SECTION. GREAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN. DO I HAVE A SECOND? SURE. YOU HAVE A SECOND RIGHT HERE. THANK, UM, DO ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. YAY. WE'RE ADJOURNED. I DON'T GET A VOTE. NO, YOU DON'T. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.