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WELCOME, TARA TOWN BOARD MEETING.
TODAY IS MAY 13TH, AND IT'S, UH, FIVE 40, UM, EARLIEST WE'VE EVER STARTED.
UM, SO WE'LL, UM, WE'LL, UM, START WITH, UH, THE MAYORS OF HASTINGS IN TARRYTOWN REGARDING REVENUE EARNED FROM CANNABIS SALES.
AND MAYOR, I'M, WE, UH, WE HAVE TO TALK INTO THE MICS.
I'M THE MAYOR OF THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN.
I'M HERE TODAY WITH NIKKI AMIKA.
SHE'S THE MAYOR OF, UM, HASTINGS AND MARY BETH ONLY.
I'VE NEVER KNOWN YOU AS MARY MURPHY, AS SHE'S THE VILLAGE ADMINISTRATOR OF, UM, OF HASTINGS ON HUDSON.
AND, UM, PERHAPS RICH SLINGERLAND, UH, WILL VISIT US SOON.
WE ARE HERE TODAY BECAUSE, UM, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, BACK IN 2021, UH, VILLAGES HAD TO DECIDE WHETHER TO OPT IN TO OPT OUT OR REMAIN IN TO THE, UH, UM, THE CANNABIS DISPENSARY LAW.
AND, UH, TARRYTOWN AND HASTINGS WERE THE ONLY TWO.
GREENBURG VILLAGES WE'RE ONE OF THE VERY, ONE OF THE FEW VILLAGES ACTUALLY IN WESTCHESTER THAT OPTED TO, TO NOT OPT OUT.
UH, WE BELIEVE THAT, UM, CANNABIS COULD BE A GOOD, UH, STREAM OF REVENUE FOR OUR VILLAGES.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY MUCH OPPOSITION, IN FACT, IN TARRYTOWN, WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN FAVOR OF DISPENSARIES, AND, UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO SAY THAT WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING ONE.
ONE HAS ACTUALLY HAD ITS SOFT OPENING ALREADY IN TARRYTOWN.
AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE REVENUE THAT COMES FROM CANNABIS SALES.
UH, THE OCM, UM, THE OCM REGULATIONS SAY THAT IF A TOWN HAS OPTED IN THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE HAVE TO WORK ON AN AGREEMENT OF WHO, HOW THE, UM, THE REVENUE IS SPLIT OR NOT.
AND IT IS, UM, MY, MY, UH, MY POSITION AND THAT OF HASTINGS AS WELL IS THAT IS IN THE VILLAGE OF GREENBURG BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE THE FRAMEWORK OF HOW SALES TAXES ARE DISTRIBUTED IN OUR VILLAGE.
AND I, I USE THE HOTEL TAX LAW.
WE BELIEVE THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE REVENUE THAT COMES FROM THE CANNABIS SALES SHOULD GO TO THE MUNICIPALITY THAT IT WAS EARNED IN.
WE HAVE, UH, TAKEN ON ALL OF THE RISKS INVOLVED, AND I, I BELIEVE THERE ARE NONE, BUT THERE'S RISKS IN EVERYTHING WE TAKE ON THE, UM, THE BUILDING INSPECTING OF IT.
THE POLICE, OUR POLICE HAVE TO BE AWARE, AND WE ASK NO ADDITIONAL SERVICES FROM THE TOWN IN ORDER TO RUN THESE CANNABIS DISPENSARIES.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WE BELIEVE THAT ALL OF THE REVENUE SHOULD COME BACK TO THE VILLAGES.
WE'RE STILL, UH, TRYING TO, UM, RECOUP MONEY THAT WE HAVE LOST SINCE COVID AND OUR PARKING.
WE REALLY, UM, HAVE, UH, L LEANED HEAVILY ON THAT OVER THE YEARS.
SALES TAX IN GENERAL, I KNOW EVERYBODY IS, IS PROBABLY SUFFERING FROM THIS, BUT, UH, SALES TAXES ARE FLAT, SO WE ARE NOT GONNA, WE, WE ALSO LEAN HEAVILY ON SALES TAX.
AND, UH, IN OUR NEXT BUDGET, WE ACTUALLY KEPT IT FLAT, UH, AS A REVENUE STREAM.
SO, UM, AS PAUL INSTRUCTED, I DO, I WENT TO THE OTHER VILLAGES AND WE LAID OUT OUR CASE TO THE OTHER VILLAGES.
AND, UM, AT THE TIME, PAUL, YOU'RE RIGHT, I DID SAY WE, YOU KNOW, I, I WAS THINKING OF A HUNDRED PERCENT TO THE VILLAGES, BUT IT WAS ACTUALLY OUR PARTNER VILLAGES THAT PRESSED ME OR CONVINCED ME THAT WE SHOULD IN FACT, LOBBY FOR 100% OF THE, UM, OF THE REVENUES THAT COME THROUGH.
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WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO MAYBE ASK YOU HOW YOU FEEL ABOUT IT.AND, UM, I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBERG DID NOT OPT OUT, WHICH MAKES YOU ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THIS REVENUE.
HOWEVER, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR CANNABIS MAP, IT COULD BE ARGUED THAT THE ZONING THAT WAS IMPOSED MAKES IT UNREASONABLY PRACTICAL, IMPRACTICAL FOR, UM, A DISPENSARY TO OPEN, BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN RELEGATED TO LIGHT INDUSTRIAL AND INDUSTRIAL AREAS ONLY.
AND YOU BROADEN THE, UM, THE BOARD, THE, UM, DISTANCES FROM CHURCHES, FROM PARKS, FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
SO IT REALLY IS DOWN TO ONE VERY SMALL PART OF THE, OF THE TOWN, WHICH I UNDERSTAND THINGS ARE ZONED WHEN THEY REALLY DON'T WANT THEM.
I, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OTHER MAYORS, UM, SUGGESTED THAT MIGHT BE THE CASE.
SO WITH THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, AND, UH, I DON'T, I THINK NIKKI WANTS ME TO DO ALL THE TALKING.
I DON'T THINK I NEED TO REPEAT EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING.
I THINK YOU'VE SAID IT VERY ELOQUENTLY.
THERE'S A STATE LAW THAT BASICALLY SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF TOWNS AND THERE'S VILLAGES AND OTHER TOWNS.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT OTHER, UH, COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE STATE ARE DOING IN TERMS OF WHETHER THEY'RE LETTING THE VILLAGES, UH, THAT ALLOW DISPENSARIES TO KEEP A HUNDRED PERCENT, OR IF THEY'VE NEGOTIATED, YOU KNOW, LIKE AN 80 20% RIGHT.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT'S HAPPENING AROUND THE STATE IN TERMS OF THERE, THERE HAVEN'T, AREN'T MANY VILLAGES THAT HAVE OPTED IN, AND I'M SURE THERE ARE IMAS THAT EXIST, THAT LINE OUTLINE THE WAY OTHER VILLAGES AND, UM, TOWNS WORK TOGETHER.
I WILL ALSO SAY THAT, AND I NOT, I CAN'T SAY THIS A HUNDRED PERCENT TO BE TRUE, BUT TRUE, BUT I AM FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT GREENBURG IS UNIQUE IN THE FACT THAT OUR HOTEL TAXES ARE PAID TO THE VILLAGES AND NOT TO THE TOWN.
SO WHAT OTHER TOWNS AND VILLAGES DO IS ONE THING, AND WHAT GREENBERG AND ITS VILLAGES DO SOMETIMES IS ANOTHER.
AND DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA ALSO IN TERMS OF THE REVENUE, UM, THAT THE TOWN, THE, A BUDGET, THIS WOULD BE A BUDGET, I IMAGINE IT WOULD HAVE TO, RIGHT? SO WOULD YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT THE IMPACT WOULD BE TO RESIDENTS OF THE ENTIRE, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, HOW MUCH MONEY IT WOULD BE? YEAH.
HOW MUCH MONEY DO YOU EXPECT TO GENERATE FROM THIS, WOULD YOU THINK? UM, YOU KNOW, I, I'VE ASKED THE OWNERS AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY.
I'D SAY A GOOD, UM, BALLPARK FIGURE WOULD BE 2 MILLION IN SALES.
AND SO IF YOU GO DOWN TO 3% OF THAT, WHICH IS WHAT, UM, WHICH IS WHAT ULTIMATELY, UH, BOILS DOWN TO THE TOWN, IT WOULD BE, WHAT IS THAT, ABOUT $80,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT? $40,000, 3% OF 3% OF 2 MILLION, I THINK, I THINK BETWEEN 20 AND 60,000, SOMETHING LIKE THAT, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE ACTUAL SALES ARE AT THE END OF THE DAY.
SO CUTTING IT IN HALF THE MONEY IS NOT THAT MEANINGFUL TO EITHER ONE OF OUR MUNICIPALITIES.
BUT HAVING A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THAT MONEY IN THE VILLAGE WOULD BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL.
OH, IT'S ALWAYS BETTER TO HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT THAN 50%.
SO, SO, UM, BUT REGARDING THE HOTEL TAX, I DON'T SEE THE ANALOGY THERE BECAUSE WE WROTE THE STATE LEGISLATION SO THAT EACH OF THE VILLAGES WOULD HAVE THEIR HOTEL TAX AND THE TOWN WOULD GET ITS HOTEL TAX.
RIGHT? WELL, THE LAW NOW SAYS THAT WE COULD WORK OUT OUR OWN AGREEMENT.
SO THE TOWN GETS ITS HOTEL TAXES, AND THE TOWN COULD GET ITS OWN CANNABIS TAXES, AND THE VILLAGES GET THEIR HOTEL TAXES, AND THEY SHOULD GET THEIR OWN CANNABIS TAXES.
IT SAYS THAT IF WE, HOW THE DISTRIBUTION OCCURS, THE DISTRIBUTION IS USUALLY SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.
IT'S NOT ZERO, NOT NECESSARILY.
I THINK THE DISTRIBUTION CAN BE HOWEVER, THE PARTIES THAT ARE NEGOTIATING ARGUE THEIR CASE.
AND, AND I THINK, UM, THE MAYOR ELOQUENTLY LAID OUT WHAT CONTRIBUTION GREENBERG WOULD BE MAKING.
IT'S HARD FOR US TO UNDERSTAND IN THIS WHAT GREENBERG WOULD BE MAKING OTHER THAN ASSERTING ITS RIGHT TO THOSE FUNDS.
SO WE ARE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU WOULD SUPPORT THIS EFFORT IN SOME WAY THROUGH THE INVESTMENT OF THAT FUNDS ON YOUR SIDE, I THINK, DOESN'T THE GREENBERG LAW SAY SOMETHING ABOUT INVESTING IN, IN SOCIAL SERVICES SOCIAL SERVICES, SOCIAL SERVICES SERVICES? SO HOW, HOW, SO WE'RE TRYING, THERE'S ONE THAT LETTER THAT SAYS THAT THE TEAM PROVIDES NO SOCIAL SERVICES TO THE VILLAGES, WHICH IS NOT, WHICH IS NOT ACCURATE.
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AND RELATED SOCIAL SERVICES.WELL, MAYBE YOU CAN HELP US UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE.
I, I ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THE BUDGET TO SEE, UM, WHAT SOCIAL SERVICES THERE WERE AVAILABLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, BUDGETS ARE HARD TO READ.
AND I DON'T SAY I DIDN'T MISS ANYTHING.
I DID QUESTION PAUL ON SOMETHING THAT HAD SOMETHING TO DO WITH NARCOTICS, BUT NEVER REALLY, IT WAS NEVER REALLY, UH, CLEARED UP AS TO WHAT THAT WAS.
SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU COULD HELP US TO UNDERSTAND WHAT SOCIAL SERVICES YOU'RE SAYING, YOU, FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE WEST COP, WHICH IS, WE, WE HAD THEM BEFORE US WEEK AGO, TWO WEEKS AGO, WEEK LAST WEEK.
UH, AND THEY PROVIDE REFERRAL SERVICES FOR ALL KINDS OF, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL, MENTAL, UH, ILLNESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, IT'S RELATED SOCIAL SERVICES.
ANY, ANY TYPE OF SOCIAL SERVICE THAT IS NEEDED.
THERE IS AN, THERE IS A DAY WAS A REFERRAL SERVICE THROUGH THE CAP SERVICE.
WELL, TARRYTOWN ALSO, UM, PROVIDES SERVICES TO, UH, THE WEST COP IN, IN TARRYTOWN.
BUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY IS NOT REALLY GOING TO MAKE OR BREAK, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN.
AND I SORT OF FEEL THIS IS ALMOST THE SAME ISSUE THAT WE HAD WITH THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY WHEN THEY ASKED US TO WAIVE THE PENALTIES.
I HAVE A RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER I WANT.
SO LET ME JUST SAY, I'M SAYING LONG TERM, ARE WE BETTER OFF WORKING WITH THE VILLAGES SHOWING THAT WE'RE MAKING A GESTURE TO, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH THEM AND, UM, AND COOPERATE WITH THEM BECAUSE WE NEED THE VILLAGES FOR OTHER THINGS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT COURTHOUSES IN THE FUTURE.
WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT A LOT OF, SPEAKING OF COURTHOUSES, OUR COURTS DO HAVE PROGRAMS WORKING WITH KIDS.
AND YOU KNOW, THE COURTS, YOU KNOW, THE COURTS DOES, THE COURT DOES SERVE THE ENTIRETY OF THE TOWN.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE A SOCIAL SERVICE THROUGH OUR, OUR COURTS.
THERE, THERE ARE, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS.
I, I JUST HAVE A, A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED NEGOTIATION.
IS THIS A NEGOTIATION OR IS IT A DEMAND FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT? IT'S A REQUEST.
WE'RE ASKING
OR IS IT A NEGOTIATION OF MAYBE SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN AN 80 20 OR SOMETHING, WHICH, WHICH IS, IT'S A REQUEST FOR A HUNDRED PERCENT MM-HMM
AND WE DON'T KNOW YET, BECAUSE WE AREN'T AT THE END OF THE MEETING WHAT THE ACTUAL NEGOTIATION WILL BE, BUT REQUEST JUST THE ONE UNDERSTOOD.
BUT IF THE TONE OF THE MEETING IS NOT THAT IT'S A NEGOTIATION, BUT IT'S RATHER A DEMAND, THEN THAT'S GOING TO, YOU KNOW, AFFECT THE NEGOTIATION ITSELF.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE, WE START FROM A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD OF UNDERSTANDING.
AND SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE SUPERVISOR MENTIONED.
DO WE HAVE ANY, IS THERE A PRECEDENT OF VILLAGES GETTING A HUNDRED PERCENT? I, I'M VERY CLEAR TO KNOW WE NEED, WE NEED THOSE FELT THINGS ON THESE CHAIRS.
UM, IT DO YOU, ARE YOU AWARE OF ANY OTHER VILLAGES THAT YOU HAVE NEGOTIATED? A HUNDRED PERCENT.
I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, IT, IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO ASK FOR THE MAXIMUM MM-HMM
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE.
IF WE ALL THAT'S TOTALLY UNDERSTANDABLE THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, THE TONE OF THE MEETING IS WE'RE DOING OUR JOBS AND ASKING WHAT WE NEED TO ASK FOR FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
WE HAVE TOTAL, WE HAVE, UH, AN TREMEND AMOUNT OF SPEC FOR ALL OF YOU.
AND WE'LL, THE MEETING WILL GO WHERE IT GOES.
WE JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T ASK, YOU DON'T GET, AND SO WE WISH WE'RE STARTING THERE.
AND WE DO BELIEVE, AGAIN, WE'VE TAKEN THE RISK, UM, SIX OUT OF THE, UH, WHAT, FIVE OUT OF THE SEVEN MUNICIPALITIES THAT MAKE UP GREENBERG, UH, OR WE'VE BEEN JOINED HERE BY RICH SLINGERLAND RICHLAND, REPRESENTING THE VILLAGE TAR TARRYTOWN JUST TO OH, YES.
AS A VILLAGE MANAGER, UM, HAVE OPTED OUT OR DEF FACTO OPTED OUT, AND ONLY HASTINGS AND TARRYTOWN HAVE REALLY OPENED THE DOORS TO THIS KIND OF, OF BUSINESS.
BUT, BUT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE HAVEN'T RESEARCHED ALL OF NEW YORK STATE.
WE KNOW WHERE THINGS STAND IN WESTCHESTER, AND WE AREN'T AWARE OF VERY MANY VILLAGES THAT ARE IN THE SAME SITUATION.
WE, UM, ARE AWARE OF SOME ARRANGEMENTS WHICH ARE NOT 50 50.
WE, WE ARE, WE'RE AWARE OF 80 20 ARRANGEMENTS.
WE'RE AWARE OF OTHERS, DEPENDING ON HOW THIS GOES, WE CAN RESEARCH.
WHERE'S THE 80 20, YOU SAID YOU'RE AWARE OF AN 80 20.
SO IT'S ACTUALLY SET, IT STIPULATES THAT OF THE 75% THAT COMES AFTER THE 25% GOES TO THE COUNTY, THAT THE VILLAGES, CITY OR CITIES, TOWNS,
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VILLAGES CAN NEGOTIATE.IF THERE'S NO, NO NEGOTIATION, IT IS A 50 50.
WHAT, BUT THAT BEING SAID, IT IS UP FOR, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION.
ONE THING THAT, UM, USE YOUR MIC.
ONE THING THAT, UM, MAYBE PRESS THE BUTTON YOU COULD CONSIDER.
IS THAT, UM, THE SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH THE RETAIL CANNABIS STORE.
I PRIMARILY GOING TO BE THINGS LIKE PARKING, UM, IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ANY POLICE, YOU KNOW, RELATED SORT OF ACTIVITIES.
IT'S, IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, THE LOCATION IS IN, IN, IN THE CASE OF HASTINGS.
AND I THINK ALSO IN THE CASE OF TARRYTOWN, SORT OF, YOU KNOW, DEEPLY EMBEDDED RIGHT.
IN OUR, UH, VERY COMMERCIAL AREA.
SO IT'S GOING TO COME WITH THE TYPES OF SERVICES THAT WOULD BE ASSOCIATED WITH A RETAIL BUSINESS IN THE, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL AREA.
SO I THINK THAT, UM, THAT, THAT'S WHY I THINK WHEN WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THE TYPES OF SERVICES THAT MIGHT BE NEEDED BY THE, UH, BY THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT FROM THE MUNICIPALITY, WHETHER IT'S ZONING OR PARKING, OR, YOU KNOW, ENFORCEMENT OF SOME KIND OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THOSE ARE ALL SERVICES THAT ARE, THAT ARE, THAT COME DIRECTLY FROM THE VILLAGE AND, AND NOT FROM THE TOWN.
I, I DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, I, THE STATE LEGISLATURE, WHEN THEY APPROVE THE LAW AUTHORIZED LOCAL GOVERNMENTS LIKE TOWNS TO GET SOME OF THE REVENUE SINCE THERE IS A PRECEDENT IN CROTON, AN 80 20, YOU KNOW, PERCENT, I, I WOULD SUPPORT THE 80 20%, UM, YOU KNOW, OPTION.
YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT THE TOWN IS DOING VIRTUALLY NOTHING, YOU KNOW, UH, SINCE, YOU KNOW, ALL THE SERVICES ARE GONNA BE PROVIDED BY, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, BY THE VILLAGES, I DON'T FEEL THAT THE TOWN REALLY, UH, SHOULD BE ENTITLED TO, YOU KNOW, THE 50, YOU KNOW, ALL THE MONEY THAT WE'RE, YOU KNOW, AUTHORIZED TO GET BECAUSE WE'RE DOING BASICALLY NOTHING FOR IT.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE A POSITIVE GESTURE TO THE VILLAGES IF WE MADE AN 80 20%, UM, YOU KNOW, OFFER.
AND IF IT'S OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING THIS, I THINK IT, IT MAKES SENSE.
ALSO, RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS, AS CANNABIS BECOMES, UH, THE SALES BECOME, YOU KNOW, MORE ACCEPTED, YOU KNOW, IN THE, IN THE COMMUNITIES, THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE MORE IN OTHER VILLAGES.
SO THE REV, THE REVENUE LOSSES, YOU KNOW, TO THE TOWN ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, MORE SIGNIFICANT BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE MORE CANNABIS, YOU KNOW, FACILITIES, DISPENSARIES, YOU KNOW, WELL OVER.
BUT I, I WOULD ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THE 80 20%, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU FIRST SPOKE TO ME ABOUT THIS A MONTH AGO, YOU, YOU WERE OPEN TO THAT.
SO I WAS, BUT I WAS SENT BACK.
UM, YES, I WAS SENT BACK BY MY BOARD WHO WAS ADAMANT THAT WE STORE IT AT 100.
THEY, YOU KNOW, THEY FEEL THAT, UH, THE VILLAGE OF TARRYTOWN IS, UM, YOU KNOW, AND HASTINGS ARE TAKING ON ALL THE RESPONSIBILITY.
NO, I ALSO WANNA SURPRISED THAT THERE WAS A NEGOTIATION, NEGOTIATION.
I, I, I, THIS IS NOT UNTYPICAL.
NO, THIS IS NOT, WE JUST HAPPEN TO SEE EACH OTHER AT AN EVENT, THIS NEGOTIATION.
SO WE ARE, WE ARE HERE FOR A MEETING TOGETHER TO DISCUSS A NEGOTIATION.
SO I HAVE TO SAY SUPERVISOR TO PUT OUT NUMBERS RIGHT NOW, I THINK IS A LITTLE PREMATURE.
WE'RE JUST STARTING THIS CONVERSATION CONVERSATION.
UM, WHICH SHOULD WE COME TO WITH IN MIND? YEAH.
WE, WE, AND I THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO DO RESEARCH TO SEE IF THERE IS A HUNDRED PERCENT ARRANGEMENT.
WE LOVE THAT WE HAPPEN TO KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE CLOSE ASSOCIATES WITH, WITH CROTON, AND SO WE KNOW WHAT THEIR STORY IS MM-HMM
AND WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THE STORY IS WITH VERY MANY.
I MEAN, HONESTLY, IN WESTCHESTER, I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S LIKE YOU CAN COUNT THE NUMBER OF MUNICIPALITIES AFFECTED THAT ARE VILLAGES ON YOUR HAND.
MOST OF THE MUNICIPALITIES THAT HAVE, THAT HAVE CHOSEN NOT TO OPT OUT ARE CITIES WHICH ARE IN A VERY DIFFERENT SITUATION.
AND VERY FEW TOWNS HAVE, AND THEY'RE, THEY DON'T HAVE AS RESTRICTIVE A WAY OF FRAMING THEIR ENGAGEMENT ON THIS AS GREENBERG DOES.
SO, SO GREENBERG'S A LITTLE BIT UNUSUAL IN THAT SENSE ALSO.
SO WE ARE VERY HAPPY TO DO MORE RESEARCH.
WE CAN DO THAT THROUGH RESOURCES LIKE NIK, OM, AND OTHERS THAT CAN HELP US FIND THAT INFORMATION OUT.
BUT WE DO KNOW OF AT LEAST ONE SISTER COMMUNITY THAT HAS AN 80 20 ARRANGEMENT.
SO IT'S YOUR PROPOSAL THAT WHATEVER THE ENTITY, WHETHER IT BE A VILLAGE OR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, WHATEVER REVENUE THEY GENERATE FROM CANNABIS STAYS IN THAT.
SO IF THERE'S UNINCORPORATED AREA AND WE OPEN UP CANNABIS VILLAGES, GET NOTHING.
WELL, IT WOULD ALWAYS BE THE CASE THAT THE UNINCORPORATED AREA DOESN'T IT, THERE'S
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NO RECIPROCAL SHARING WITH THE VILLAGES.THAT'S PART OF WHAT'S UNFAIR ABOUT THIS.
SO IT'S ONLY THAT THE TOWN GETS IT.
SO THE TOWN, IF THE TOWN ENDED UP HAVING 12 CANNABIS STORES, NONE OF THAT WOULD BE SHARED WITH THE VILLAGES.
WELL, BUT I THINK CURRENTLY FRAMED IN TERMS OF SERVICES, WOULD, NONE OF IT GO, GETS A LITTLE, THAT GETS, THAT GETS A LITTLE WONKY.
YOU KNOW, IF THE TOWN IS PROVIDING SERVICES, DO WE, THAT WOULD GO TO THE VILLAGES? HOW DO WE NEGOTIATE THAT? I DON'T THINK, I THINK THAT THE QUESTION WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT, WHICH HAD TO DO WITH THE, THE, THE CREATION OF THE CANNABIS STORE.
MY UNDERSTANDING IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IF THERE'S A CANNABIS STORE IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG, DOES GREENBERG HAVE TO SHARE THAT REVENUE WITH THE VILLAGES? AS I READ THE LAW, THAT ISN'T WHAT IT SAYS.
THAT WHATEVER IS IN A CITY, A CITY GETS TO KEEP WHATEVER IS IN A TOWN THAT'S UNINCORPORATED, THE TOWN GETS TO KEEP UNINCORPORATED.
IT'S THE VILLAGES, THE VILLAGES THAT HAVE TO SHARE, WHICH IS PARTLY WHY WE FIND IT SOMEWHAT UNFAIR, AND WHY WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING IN THE HOTEL TAX, WHICH IS MORE ANALOGOUS TO THE SITUATION IN OUR MINDS ON, IN A PRACTICAL, ON A PRACTICAL BASIS.
SO IF YOU END UP HAVING, YOU KNOW, SEVEN CANNABIS STORES IN THAT AREA THAT YOU'VE DESIGNATED, THAT'S YOUR, YOUR REVENUE, WHATEVER HAPPENED AS WE READ THE LAW, OUR ATTORNEYS MIGHT SAY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
BUT, UM, BUT THAT'S HOW WE READ THAT LAW.
WELL, LET'S READ WHAT THIS SAYS.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT JOY GAVE ME, WHICH I THINK IS THE ACTUAL WORDING.
UH, IF A TOWN AND A VILLAGE WITHIN A TOWN BOTH ALLOW ADULT USE SALES, THE REVENUES SHALL BE DISTRIBUTED BASED ON A DISTRIBUTION BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGE.
A DISTRIBUTION AGREEMENT AGREEMENT, THE LANGUAGE IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT IN THE ACTUAL LAW ITSELF.
SO THE LAW ITSELF SAYS WHERE A RETAIL DISPENSARY IS LOCATED IN A VILLAGE WITHIN A TOWN THAT BULK PERMIT CANNABIS SALES, THEN THE COUNTY SHALL DISTRIBUTE EVENLY IF THERE IS NO OCCURRENCE.
WHICH IS WHY I, IT'S SIMILAR TO THAT WORDING, BUT NOT EXACT.
BUT THE, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT IF FROM YORK STATE, WE ALLOWED, SAY CANNABIS, UH, DISPENSARY, SAY ANYWHERE IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG, IS THAT A B BUDGET, REVENUE SOURCE? OR IS THAT AN, A BUDGET REVENUE? BECAUSE IF IT'S AN A BUDGET, THAT MEANS THAT THE VILLAGES WOULD SHARE, UM, IN THE REVENUE.
IF IT'S A B BUDGET, THAT WOULD MEAN THAT WE GET TO KEEP A HUNDRED PERCENT.
THE, THE LAW, THE, THE LAW IS WRITTEN A FEW DIFFERENT WAYS.
I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE, WHEN THEY WERE PUTTING THIS TOGETHER, WHY DID THEY PUT THAT CLAUSE IN THERE? THERE ARE MANY THINGS ABOUT THIS LAW, WHICH IN RETROSPECT, I THINK MANY OF US WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE REWRITTEN.
IT'S BEEN ONE OF THE MOST CHALLENGING LAWS TO IMPLEMENT.
IT'S BEEN VERY CHALLENGING FOR MUNICIPALITIES TO IMPLEMENT.
AND SO THERE ARE MANY THINGS ABOUT IT THAT I THINK WE WOULD HAVE, WE WISH IN A DIFFERENT WORLD WERE FRAMED SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY.
THERE ARE ALSO, UM, TOWNS AND VILLAGES IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE, OR EVEN IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE COUNTY, MAY HAVE DIFFERENT RELATIONSHIPS AND, UM, INTERRELATIONSHIPS IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES THEY OFFER HERE IN GREENBURG.
AND WITH OUR VILLAGES, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY DEFINED.
AND THE VILLAGES BASICALLY PROVIDE, YOU KNOW, ALL ALL OF THE SERVICES, POLICE, FIRE PROTECTION, ALL THE, ALL, ALL THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WITH MUTUAL AID, RIGHT.
BUT I THINK WHAT MARYBETH IS TRYING TO SAY, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH, WITH, WITH WHOMEVER, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, GOD, AND GOD FORBID, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING TRAGIC HAPPENS, YONKERS IS COMING, VERNON ABSOLUTELY IS COMING.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT, I GUESS I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU HAVE TO ALSO LOOK AT THE, THE, THE INDIVIDUAL SITUATION AND THE SORT OF INTERACTION THAT THERE WOULD BE WITH REGARD TO THE RETAIL ESTABLISHMENT.
UH, IF, IF IN CERTAIN TOWNS AND VILLAGES, THERE MAY BE A LOT MORE SYNERGY INVOLVED IN PARTS OF THE STATE, THAT, THAT DON'T EXIST.
WE HAVE CO-TERMINUS VILLAGES, WE HAVE VILLAGES THAT ARE TOWNS.
YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY, VERY ECCENTRIC AND UNIQUE
I JUST WANNA SAY, I JUST WANNA SAY, I KNOW WHEN WE DISCUSS, UM, PUTTING THIS LAW IN PLACE, AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SHOULD WE OPT IN OR OPT OUT, WHEN THAT, WHEN THE REVENUE CAME UP, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GAVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, TO ALL THE COMMUNITIES IN THE VILLAGES.
SO THIS IS WHY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE REVENUES THAT WAS THAT, THAT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY YET BECAUSE IT HAD, NOTHING'S BEEN OPENED YET.
BUT ANY REVENUE THAT'S COMING FROM THE STORE, IT'S STILL GOING BACK TO THE VILLAGES.
BECAUSE IF THERE'S A SOCIAL SERVICE OR THERE'S SUCH A NEED, IT'S GOING BACK TO THE VILLAGES.
SO I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT THE ANYONE TO WALK AWAY BELIEVING THAT WE'RE TAKING EVERYTHING AND IT'S JUST
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FOR US.NO, WELL, FOR YOU, IT'S FOR US.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WANNA MAKE SURE.
'CAUSE I, IT, WE, WE ALWAYS GET, IT'S ALWAYS SAID THAT WE'RE ALL ABOUT US, AND WE, AND, BUT WE'RE NOT.
WE THINK ABOUT THE VILLAGES AND MAKING SURE THAT WE TOGETHER, BECAUSE WE ARE THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THAT WE'RE MAKING SURE THAT WE CONSIDER THE VILLAGES, WHICH IS WHY WE PUT THAT CAVEAT IN THERE.
WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THERE'S, AS WELL AS THE INCORPORATED, AS WELL AS
YEAH, NO, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T, BECAUSE WE, WE ALWAYS GET THE IMPRESSION THAT WE'RE ALWAYS TRYING TO STICK IT TO THE VILLAGES.
AND IT'S, IT'S DISHEARTENING BECAUSE WE ALWAYS TRY TO WORK WITH THE VILLAGES AND, AND IT'S ELVA HERE, IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE, YOU KNOW, AND LISTEN, LISTEN, WE'RE ALL FRIENDS AT THIS TABLE.
DON'T FEEL WE, WE, WE, THERE'S NO ISSUES, ISSUES HERE, ANYTHING.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE, BUT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE HEARING THIS, RIGHT, UNDERSTAND THAT THAT WAS THE INTENT OF THAT, AND THIS IS WHY WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S FOR EVERYBODY, NOT JUST ONE.
ONE SIDE, JOE, COULD I JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION? UM, BECAUSE THE ISSUE THAT, SO I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT IS IF THERE'S, UM, I THINK WE NEED AN OPINION WHETHER, UH, REVENUE FROM CANNABIS SALES FROM STORES IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG, IF IT'S GONNA BE GOING TO THE A BUDGET OR THE B BUDGET? NO, BECAUSE I'M SAYING IF IT'S A B BUDGET, THEN IT'S ONLY UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG, THEN THE VILLAGES ARE MAKING A POINT, BECAUSE BASICALLY WE GET TO KEEP NO, I'M JUST SAYING THEY'RE REALLY MAKING A POINT VALID.
I MEAN, I, I WOULD LIKE TO GET AN OPINION ON, YOU KNOW, WHY SHOULD WE BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY THAN IF THE MONEY IS GOING BACK TO SOCIAL SERVICES.
THOSE SOCIAL SERVICES ARE OPEN TO ALL RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS THE POINT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE.
YEAH, BUT I'M JUST, I'M JUST NO, NOT, NOT JUST, NO.
IT'S NOT THAT WE'RE ONLY GONNA HAVE SERVICES THAT ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN UNINCORPORATED.
OUR SERVICES ARE TOWN WISE, TOWN WISE, BUT I THINK ACTUALLY ARE, IT'S A DIFFERENT POINT.
I, I THINK THERE'S A VERY, VERY NARROW KIND OF, VERY LEGALISTIC POINT, WHICH IS THAT IF IT'S CONSIDERED, IF IT'S, IF IT'S IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG MM-HMM
AND I DO NOT READ IT THIS WAY MM-HMM
WHICH IS WHY WE'RE MAKING THE CASE WE'RE MAKING.
BUT IF IT'S READ THIS WAY, THEN ANY REVENUE THAT IS GENERATED IN THAT AREA HAS TO BE SHARED ACCORDING TO SOME FORMULA WITH ALL THE OTHER VILLAGES, WHICH ALSO DOESN'T MAKE SENSE BECAUSE FOUR OF THE OTHER VILLAGES HAVEN'T ACTUALLY TAKEN ON CANNABIS.
SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A, THERE'S A, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AT A, AT A, AT A FAIRNESS PRINCIPLE HERE ABOUT WHO'S ACTUALLY BEARING THE BURDEN.
AND WE, WE'VE SPENT QUITE A LOT OF TIME THINKING ABOUT THIS BECAUSE WE LOVE OUR OTHER SYSTEM MUNICIPALITIES, BUT THEY'VE CHOSEN NOT TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS.
SO REALLY OUR ONLY CONVERSATION IS WITH YOU.
I MEAN, IF YOU DISCOVER THAT IN FACT, UM, THE TOWN HAS AN OBLIGATION TO SHARE WITH EVERY MUNICIPALITY, I WOULD BE SHOCKED.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.
I REALLY THINK IT'S JUST WITH THE MUNICIPALITY THAT CHOOSE TO OPT IN, BECAUSE THE OTHERS CAN CHOOSE TO OPT IN AT SOME OTHER POINT IN TIME.
I ALSO WANNA SAY THAT, YEAH, I DON'T THINK IT'S ALL THE VILLAGES ONLY IT'S ONES, THE ONLY ONES THAT OPTED IN.
UH, WE ARE THE TWO, WE'RE THE TWO OUT OF THE SIX THAT DID.
AND, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT DISAGREEMENT COULD CHANGE AS, AND IF OTHER VILLAGES OPT IN, IF OTHER VILLAGES OPT IN AND WE'RE ALL NOW CONTRIBUTING TO THE B BUDGET WITH OUR SALES, YOU KNOW, WE CAN PUT THAT IN ANY KIND OF AGREEMENT THAT AS ANOTHER MUNICIPALITY COMES IN, THAT THE DIVISION CAN CHANGE.
AND I, I WOULD, I WOULD HOPE THAT ANY OF ALL OF THE MONEY, HOWEVER WE END UP DISTRIBUTING IT, ENDS UP IN THE A BUDGET AND NOT THE B BUDGET.
SO, UM, BECAUSE I, IT'S COMING FROM THE VILLAGES, AND THAT'S WHERE I BELIEVE IT WOULD BELONG.
I ACTUALLY DON'T, WELL, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M NOT YOUR ATTORNEY, SO I PROBABLY SHOULD JUST BE QUIET, BUT I DON'T THINK IF IT'S IN THE UNINCORPORATED PART OF GREENBURG, THE CANNABIS STORE, THAT IT CAN BE IN THE A BUDGET.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A GRAY LINE THAT NONE OF, WE, WE REALLY CAN'T FIGURE IT.
I'M, I'M REALLY ONLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE, I THERE A LOT OF ISSUES THERE.
THERE ARE A LOT OF ISSUES THAT HAVE COME UP HERE THAT WE HAVE TO CHECK OUT.
SO I WOULD ASK YOU THOUGH, TO PLEASE DO IT IN A TIMELY MANNER BECAUSE OUR, UM, OUR CANNABIS STORES ARE, ARE GOING TO OPEN.
I ALSO WILL SAY ONE THING, OUR EXPERIENCE WITH THE, THE TOWN'S, UM, SYSTEM OF PAYING OUT MONEY TO THE VILLAGES HAS NOT BEEN STELLAR.
AND THE, THE LAW, AS I READ IT, THE, THE STATE IS UNDER, UH, STRICT RULES ON HOW FAST THAT MONEY HAS TO COME IN AND
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GO OUT.SO I WOULD WANT TO STRESS THAT WE WOULD EXPECT THAT TO BE THE CASE WITH THIS MONEY AS WELL.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE, ANOTHER REASON WHY A HUNDRED PERCENT TO THE VILLAGES WOULD JUST BE EASIER AND MORE EFFICIENT BECAUSE IT FLOWS STRAIGHT TO THE VILLAGES.
AND, YOU KNOW, NO TENSION BETWEEN, UH, OUR MUNICIPALITIES AND THE VILLAGE ABOUT WHERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE PAYMENT FOR THIS, WHICH SOMETIMES HAPPENS.
WE, WE HAVE SOME OUTSTANDING, WE HAVE SOME VERY LARGE OUTSTANDING, UM, SITUATIONS RIGHT NOW WHERE THAT IS THE CASE.
I, I THINK NO MATTER WHAT THE AGREEMENT IS, IF IT WAS 50, 50, 75, 25, A HUNDRED ZERO, WHATEVER IT IS, THAT THE COUNTY WOULD SEND THE FUNDS DIRECTLY TO BOTH MUNICIPALITIES INDIVIDUALLY, IT WOULDN'T COME TO THE TOWN FIRST TO BE DISPERSED OUT TO THE VILLAGE.
THAT'S NOT ONE OF THE CLARITY, ONE OF THE CLARITY CLARIFYING THINGS THAT WE NEED TO FIND OUT.
WELL, IT'S A TIMELY, IT'S A TIMELY ISSUE.
UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE COMING FAST AND FURIOUSLY.
I WOULD ASK THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBERG RECONSIDER ITS ZONING BECAUSE IT IS, IN MY OPINION, UNRE, IT, IT IS UNREASONABLE, IT RESTRICTS IT TO ONLY ONE VERY SMALL AREA IN THE, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND THEY THINK IT COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO THE TOWN AND TO THE RESIDENTS OF THE TOWN TO ALLOW THEM IN MORE AREAS AND ALSO MORE EQUITABLE TO THE, THE VILLAGES AS WELL.
AND WE'VE BEEN ASKED TO DO THAT, AND WE MAY BE LOOKING INTO THAT.
COULD I, UH, SEE IF WE COULD GIVE OURSELVES LIKE A TIMELINE, UH, WHEN WE GET BACK, YOU KNOW, DO WE WANNA PUT THIS ON AN AGENDA, SAY A MONTH FROM NOW, AND THEN SAY, WE'LL HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS, BECAUSE OTHERWISE WE'LL GET DISTRACTED AND, YOU KNOW, WE'LL BE BACK IN A YEAR IS WELL, WHO, IT CAN'T BE A, IT REALLY CAN'T BE.
NO, I'M SAYING NO, I'M JUST SAYING ANY RESEARCH THAT YOU COULD PROVIDE FOR US HELPFUL.
WE'LL DO IT AS SOON AS WE CAN.
UH, PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA FOR THE, SAY THE MEETING, THE SECOND MEETING IN JUNE.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY WE WILL, WE'LL HAVE THE ANSWERS AND THEN WE COULD SAY YES OR NO, OR DECIDE WHAT PERCENTAGES, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO GO, AND WE, WE NEED, WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE, UM, YOUR ANSWERS BY THE, LIKE THE FIRST WEEK IN JUNE IN ORDER TO CONSIDER IT.
WE'LL GET THEM AS SOON AS WE CAN IF WE CAN.
I MEAN, IF WE HAVE, IF THERE ARE ANY EXAMPLES, IT MAY BE THAT THERE JUST SIMPLY AREN'T, THERE MIGHT NOT.
EXAMPLE, NOT EVERYBODY SHARES.
WE ALL HAVE HOMEWORK, BUT I'M JUST, WE GIVE YOU AT LEAST ONE EXAMPLE
YEAH, NO, I'M JUST SUGGESTING THAT ONE IS NOT, A TREND IS NOT RIGHT.
I'M JUST SUGGESTING SINCE THE, THE SUPERVISORS SUGGESTED THAT WE PUT IT THE SEC ON THE SECOND WEEK IN JUNE, WE TRY TO GET, WE LOCKED DOWN WHAT IS GONNA BE ON OUR AGENDA.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE, BEFORE WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE HAD RIGHT DUCKS IN A ROW AND WE'LL REFER BACK TO THE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE THAT SISTER GREENBERG MUNICIPALITIES.
SO THE WORDING YOU READ WAS THE ACTUAL ENABLING LEGISLATION? YES.
BECAUSE THE STATE ALSO PUT OUT A DIFFERENT DOCUMENT THAT SAYS, OF COURSE THEY DID.
ABOUT HOW THE REVENUE IS GENERATED.
IT'S A, IT'S, AS I SAID, IT'S ONE OF THE MOST RIGHT.
CHALLENGING, UH, PIECES OF LEGISLATION TO INTERPRET.
THE GOALPOST HAS MOVED AT LEAST 30 TIMES ON THIS.
AND IT'S REALLY MAKES IT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT, I THINK FOR US AS SMALL MUNICIPALITIES TRYING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, YOU KNOW, TO BE ABLE TO WORK OUT WHAT THE STORY IS.
IT COULD BE THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT.
DID NOT UNDERSTAND THE LAW AND JUST INARTFULLY WORDED WHAT THEY SAID BECAUSE IT'S, IT DOES SEEM LIKE ALL OF THE MUNICIPALITIES, THE OFFICE OF CANNABIS MANAGEMENT, I THINK THAT, I THINK THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S IN THE ACTUAL LEGISLATION AS OPPOSED TO ON THEIR WEBSITE,
AND BEFORE WE ALL GO, UM, I HOPE THIS IS NOT A CONFLICT WITH YOU, BUT I'D LIKE TO INVITE YOU ALL TO THE MEMORIAL DAY PARADE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS ALWAYS COME TWO HOURS, THE 25TH.
OH WAIT, WE'RE OURS IS ON SUNDAY, THE 25TH.
WE ALL MEET AT 2:00 PM SO YOU'RE ALL VERY, VERY WELCOME.
BUT LET ME KNOW IF YOU'RE COMING, BECAUSE THE ADMIRAL IS VERY CURIOUS WHO'S GONNA BE THERE.
IT'S ACTUALLY AN EXCELLENT PARADE.
WELL, WE DO APPRECIATE OUR TOWN AND WE DO APPRECIATE OUR RELATIONSHIP AND THIS, UM, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS JUST, UM, WE ALL WORKED REALLY HARD IN THIS, IN THE VILLAGE, PUT OUR NEXT AND OUR, YOU KNOW, ARE ON THE LINE AND WE REALLY WANNA DELIVER FOR OUR VILLAGES.
AND WE'LL SEE YOU IN THE SECOND JUNE, JUNE 10TH.
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OKAY, GOOD.DRIVE SAFELY IN THE, IN THE BAD WEATHER.
THAT THE INFORMATION IS NOT SO CLEAR FROM OCM.
THE ASSESSOR'S ON HER WAY DOWN FROM HER OFFICE.
DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO FINISH THE LAW? IT'S NOT FINISHED.
SO EDIE HAS SOME OPTIONS TO DISCUSS WITH YOU TO PLACE THAT FOR THE CLIMATE CHANGE INTO THE LAW.
SO THE STATE LAW ITSELF HAS FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT PROVISIONS THAT THE OPTING IN MUNICIPALITY DOES HAVE A LOT OF DIRECTIONS YOU CAN GO IN.
SO WE HAVE SOME SUGGESTIONS AFTER DISCUSSING TOGETHER.
SO WE GOTTA LEARN THESE OPTIONS RIGHT NOW, I DID NOT PUT THIS ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
I PROMISE YOU WE DON'T, THERE WAS ONLY ONE THING ON THIS MORNING IS THE WAY WE OPERATE.
IT COULD BE SENT VIA EMAIL, BUT WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO PREPARE.
LIKE WE JUST, WE DON'T HAVE STUFF ON.
SO SHE'S JUST GONNA TELL US THE OPTIONS, GET A PREVIEW AND WE'LL JUST GET A PREVIEW.
AND SPEAKING OF THE DEVIL, HI.
HEY, DEVIL, IF YOU, I JUST GAVE THEM A YEAH, WE DON'T, THIS IS THE FIRST TIME US KNOWN ABOUT, WE HAVE NO CLUE JUST ABOUT THE OPTIONS WITHIN THE LAW.
THE PUBLIC HEARING IS POSTPONED.
WOULD YOU BRING THE MICROPHONE CLOSER, PLEASE? RIGHT.
MAY I JUST SAY, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL TO POSTPONE THIS CONVERSATION FOR A WEEK SO THAT IT COULD BE SENT TO YOU IN WRITING FIRST AND THEN WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION? RIGHT.
I REALLY JUST THOUGHT, BUT HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
I REALLY JUST THOUGHT THAT I WAS HERE TODAY TO JUST THROW IT OUT AT THE TABLE, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT YOU'VE NOT SEEN THIS BEFORE.
SO DID YOU ASK THE COURT TO BE ON AGENDA? NO, MA'AM.
THIS WAS A LEGISLATION THAT I'VE BEEN, I KNOW.
THAT YOU'VE BEEN TRYING TO, TO, YEAH.
I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN, THIS, WE LOBBIED FOR THIS, AND THE STATE BASICALLY AUTHORIZED US TO GIVE, UH, TAX, UH, BREAKS TO PEOPLE WHO WERE SUFFERING BECAUSE OF THE HURRICANE.
AND THIS LEGISLATION BASICALLY WOULD ENABLE US TO OFFER RESIDENTS.
BUT WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THE OPTIONS, THE WAY IN WHICH WE DO IT.
WHY CAN'T EDIE JUST GIVE US LIKE A GENERAL IDEA RIGHT NOW SINCE PEOPLE MIGHT BE INTERESTED FROM THE PUBLIC, AND THEN WE COULD ALWAYS DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION ON HIM MORE DETAILED? I REALLY JUST GO AHEAD.
I I REALLY JUST THOUGHT THAT I WAS HERE, UM, TO GIVE YOU THE ABSOLUTE ABRIDGE VERSION WITH NO DETAILS.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT READY FOR THAT YET.
SO BASICALLY THE LEGISLATION PASSED AND, UM, WHAT IT DOES IS ALLOW BY LOCAL OPTION TO, UM, TO HELP PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN THIS SITUATION WITH STORMS AND CATASTROPHES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, IT GIVES US, AS THE LOCAL OPTION, IT GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY IF WE CAN, UM, PUT AN EXEMPTION ON THE PROPERTY.
IF, IF IT'S A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE THAT HAS TO BE DETERMINED BY THE TOWN BOARD, UM, IN WHETHER IT'S MY TOTAL RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION, UM, OR MINE ALONG WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENTS.
YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THOSE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT, OUT.
AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE ASSESSOR ALSO HAS THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE, UM, ANY FORM OF SUPPORTING DOCUMENTATION.
SO IF I RECOMMEND TO YOU THAT WE PASS THIS LEGISLATION, AND MY STRONG RECOMMENDATION IS TO GET A RESPONSE FROM FEMA.
SO IF THE PROPERTY IS 10%, YOU KNOW, IN, WHAT'S THE WORD? INHABITABLE? UNINHABITABLE.
I CAN'T SAY THAT UNINHABITABLE.
IT JUST DOESN'T COME OUT RIGHT.
UM, WHETHER IT'S 10% OR 50%, THAT'S A CHOICE THAT WE MAKE THAT I WILL BRING TO YOU AND WE WILL LAY THIS OUT, UM, IN, IN LAYERS.
AND TO BE ABLE TO ADOPT IT FOR WHOMEVER THAT MAY BE, I'M NOT AS CONCERNED.
AND THE REASON FOR THE DELAY IS I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THIS LEGISLATION REALLY STARTED BECAUSE OF IRMA.
UM, AND I'M NOT AS CONCERNED ABOUT THE IRMA, IDA, IDA, IDA, IDA.
UM, THERE'S ONLY A FEW RECIPIENTS, UH, THAT ARE POTENTIAL TO RECEIVE THIS EXEMPTION DEPENDING ON THE PASSAGE OF THE LEVELS.
I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AS MUCH AS I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IF THERE IS A MAJOR CATASTROPHE AND THERE ARE MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE THAT ARE ELIGIBLE, THAT TYPE OF THING.
SO, BECAUSE THIS WHOLE EXEMPTION WILL BE COMPLETELY ADMINISTERED BY THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
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TO BE VERY CAREFUL ON HOW WE PASS THIS AND THE LEVELS THAT WE DO AND WHO GETS INVOLVED.WHEN DO YOU FEEL YOU CAN HAVE THE OPTIONS CLEARLY LAID OUT FOR US TO CONSIDER TO, TO CREATE THAT? THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT.
UM, TO CREATE A LEVEL OF COMFORT, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS WITHOUT SOUNDING A LITTLE COCKY, BUT, UM, TO CREATE A LEVEL OF COMFORT, UM, FOR ME TO BRING THIS TO YOU.
I PROMISE YOU IT WILL NOT BE BEFORE JUNE 1ST.
'CAUSE THAT'S MY TENTATIVE ASSESSOR ROLE.
SO, UM, SORRY, THAT TAKES PRIORITY.
SO PROBABLY MIDDLE OF JUNE, THE END, BUT, BUT WE WERE DISCUSSING SEVERAL OF THE OPTIONS YESTERDAY, AND I'M ALREADY HAVING MY PARALEGAL PUT THEM INTO A LOCAL LAW FORM TO DISTRIBUTE FOR REVIEW, AND I COULD HIGHLIGHT THE OPTION SECTIONS FOR DISCUSSION LATER ON.
WE DID TALK ABOUT A COUPLE THINGS THAT, THAT JOE AND I ARE BOTH IN AGREEMENT WITH AS FAR AS TIMING AND AMOUNTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO WE SHOULD DO IT BEFORE HURRICANE SEASON STARTS.
IS THERE ANY, UH, IMPACT TO PEOPLE WHO HAD SUFFERED FROM LOSSES? UH, IF BY DELAYING THIS, YOU KNOW, LIKE I'M SAYING, IF WE DO THIS IN JULY YEAH.
IT, IT GOES BACK TO JANUARY 1ST, 2020.
THIS HAPPENED SOMETIME IN THE SUMMER.
SO LET'S GET IT RIGHT AND GIVE, GIVE THE ASSESSOR PLENTY THE TIME THAT SHE NEEDS TO GET THE INFORMATION I ADDRESS.
THIS IS, WELL, THERE'S NO HARM TO ANYBODY.
THIS IS A REALLY, REALLY, REALLY COMPLICATED PIECE OF LEGISLATION.
SO, AND WE WILL BE THE FIRST, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S RIGHT.
WE WILL BE THE FIRST IN THE STATE OF NEW YORK, SO I WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S RIGHT.
AND WE SHOULD PROBABLY DISTRIBUTE IT TO VILLAGES AT SCHOOL DISTRICTS ONCE COMPLETED SO THAT THEY CAN ENACT IT AS WELL FOR THEIR OWN TAXES.
SO JUST LET YOU KNOW IT WILL, OR AT LEAST GIVE THEM A, A, A LOOK SEE BEFORE WE ENACT IT SO THAT THEY CAN BE PREPARED FOR WHAT WE'RE ENACTING.
WELL, SO IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE TOWN TAXES ARE NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT.
JUST, JUST THAT, UM, THEY MAY HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS BASED ON THEIR EXPERIENCES TOO.
TYPICALLY WHAT HAPPENS WITH ANYTHING NEW THAT I BRING TO YOU, UM, I SPEAK WITH YOU FIRST, AND AS IT'S PROPOSED, IT'S ALREADY LEGISLATION.
I BRING IT TO YOU FIRST WITH OUR, MY RECOMMENDATIONS.
SOMETIMES YOU TAKE, MOST OF THE TIME YOU TAKE THEM, SOMETIMES YOU CHANGE THEM A LITTLE BIT, WHICH IS FINE.
AND THEN I BRING THEM TO THE SCHOOLS AND TO THE VILLAGES.
AND THIS IS WHAT THE TOWN BOARD HAS TALKED ABOUT.
I PUT AN OUTLINE TOGETHER AND I BRING IT TO THE VILLAGE, UM, AGAIN, IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS BECAUSE THERE'S 10 SCHOOLS AND SIX VILLAGES, AND THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT I JUST NEED EVERYBODY, I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
AGAIN, THIS LEGISLATION IS STRICTLY BY LOCAL OPTIONS.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS FOR US IS THIS IS A LOCAL LAW FOR THE TOWN.
IT WILL BE A LOCAL LAW FOR THE SIX VILLAGES, AND IT WILL BE BY RESOLUTION IF THEY SO CHOOSE, UH, FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS AND A LOCAL LAW FOR THE COUNTY, IF I CAN SAY THAT.
SO EVERYBODY HAS TO OPT INTO IT.
OH,
DO YOU HAVE THE LITERATURE SO WE CAN LOOK AT IT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT, I HAVE A EMAIL FROM, UH, THE COUNTY, UM, BASICALLY, UM, BUT THE EMAIL EXPRESSES THAT WE, THAT THEY, THEY CAN, IT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, BUT THE SPECIFICS OF THE SWIFT, UM, GRANTS WE DON'T HAVE.
SO I, I'D REALLY LIKE TO BE PREPARED TO COMMENT ON IT, BUT RIGHT NOW, ALL I HAVE IS JUST A, HEY, GUESS WHAT? THIS MIGHT BE AVAILABLE.
BUT I DON'T, NOTHING MORE, SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DISCUSS.
WELL, BASICALLY, UM, ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UM, PETER DUDA, WHO REPRESENTS A UKRAINIAN DAYCARE, UH, FACILITY, MET WITH US.
I THINK YOU WERE MEETING I WAS THERE, YES.
UM, AND, UH, THAT AREA AT 25 OLD JACKSON AVENUE ALWAYS FLOODS.
SO HE BASICALLY BOUGHT A BUILDING THAT IS UNUSABLE BECAUSE OF THE FLOODING.
SO RICH FA, UM, MYSELF, ELLEN, UM, WE MET WITH, UM, WITH MR. DUDA.
UH, THE COUNTY HAD, UM, SOMEBODY WHO BASICALLY DID SOME RESEARCH FOUND THAT THEY, THE COUNTY WAS INTERESTED IN, IN HELPING, UH, ADDRESS THE FLOODING.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I MENTIONED THIS THROUGH AN EMAIL, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, FRANCIS SAID, BECAUSE THE COST
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TO THE TOWN WOULD BE THE, THE 10% WOULD BE ABOUT $500,000.FRANCIS SAID, WHERE ARE YOU COMING UP WITH MONEY? THE $500,000? WHICH I THOUGHT WAS A VERY, UH, EXCELLENT, YOU KNOW, POINT THAT YOU MADE.
UM, SO I FOLLOWED UP, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COUNTY.
I SAID, YOU KNOW, $500,000 IS AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY FOR A PROPERTY, ONE FOR ONE PROPERTY.
UM, SO I WROTE TO THE COUNTY, AND YESTERDAY THEY EMAILED ME AND THEY SAID, WE HAVE A PROGRAM THAT COULD PROVIDE THE ENTIRETY OF THE 10%, THAT WOULD BE THE 10% OF THE LOCAL SHARE, UP TO 50% OF TOTAL PROJECT COSTS.
BUT THE TOWN WOULD HAVE TO APPLY AND GO THROUGH OUR PROCESS, WHICH TAKES ABOUT SIX TO EIGHT MONTHS.
THE COUNTY WOULD ALSO NEED AN EASEMENT OVER THE PROPERTY FOR THE LIFE OF THE BONDS.
AND IT SIGNED OBED OED RA GEESE, A ICP, ASSOCIATED PLAN PLANNER, WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING.
SO HOWEVER, WHEN WHEN WE WERE THERE AND WE WALKED AROUND THE GROUNDS, WE DETERMINED THAT THERE WERE SOME INTERRELATIONSHIPS.
THAT IT WASN'T A SIMPLE FIX THAT COULD BE DONE LOCALLY, THAT WE HAD TO EXPAND THAT OUT, WHICH MIGHT IN FACT BE A PART AND PARCEL WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
UM, AND THEN IF YOU RECALL, WE ALSO, GOING BACK ABOUT A YEAR AGO, HAD A MEETING WITH THE COUNTY AND WITH THEIR QUOTE UNQUOTE FLOOD CZAR.
ALTHOUGH I, I UNDERSTAND THAT DEAN TRULY, WHO WAS THE PERSON AT THE TIME, UM, IS NO LONGER THERE.
I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THEY'VE REPLACED IT, BUT THERE WAS A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FACT THAT NEW YORK STATE WAS DOING AN EVALUATION OF ALL THE WATERWAYS, INCLUDING THE SAWMILL RIVER AND THE OTHER RIVERS.
AND THAT, THAT ONCE THAT CAME OUT, WHICH HAS BEEN MUCH DELAYED, I'M NOT EVEN POSITIVE IT'S COME OUT THE LAST TIME I CHECKED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, IT, IT WASN'T, UH, YET ISSUED BASED ON THAT, THE COUNTY WOULD THEN HELP EVALUATE WHAT WOULD BE, UM, WHAT GRANTS MIGHT BE APPLICABLE.
AND THEN THERE IS THE, UM, THE, WE'D HAVE TO APPLY.
WE CAN'T APPLY JOINTLY WITH OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, BUT WE MIGHT APPLY SEPARATELY.
MAYBE I, THEY, HE WAS A LITTLE BIT, UM, FUZZY ON THAT AS TO, AND I THINK OTHERS WERE THERE AS TO WHETHER WE COULD AGGREGATE OUR, UM, OUR APPLICATIONS FOR THE GRANT.
SO I, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT EARLY TO THINK ABOUT THE SWIFT APPLICATION BECAUSE IF WE'VE, THE IMPACTS OF FLOODING, BECAUSE RIVERS AND AND STREAMS DON'T RECOGNIZE BORDERS, UH, OF MUNICIPALITIES, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE A, A, A LITTLE BIT LIKE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
BUT THEN AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, THE SWIFT, THE FEMA, SWIFT, UM, UH, GRANT ENTAILS.
SO BEFORE WE MAKE ANY COMMITMENT I, OR, OR DISCUSS IT, REALLY, I, I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
I KNOW WHEN WE GOT THE FEMA GRANT SPECIFIC TO BABBITT COURT, UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF CONTINGENCIES THAT REQUIRED THAT THE TOWN ADMINISTER.
IT PUTS A LOT OF PRESSURE ON OUR, UH, DPW TO ADMINISTER IT.
AND THEY WORKED VERY, VERY HARD ON THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IF THIS IS THE SAME SORT OF THING, WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW THAT IN ADVANCE.
NO, I, I, I HAVE NO OBJECTIONS.
I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT, AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THE TOWN IN THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, WE'VE GRADUALLY BEEN TRYING TO ADDRESS FLOODING PROBLEMS ALL OVER THE TOWN.
WE PUT MONEY IN THE BUDGET EVERY YEAR FOR FLOOD RELIEF.
THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THE COUNTY WAS DEFINITELY INTERESTED IN BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONE WHO IDENTIFIED THE FEMA, YOU KNOW, GRANT.
UM, SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST, BASED ON YOUR, YOUR CAUSES, I WOULD REACH OUT TO PETER DUMA.
I'LL REACH OUT TO THE, UH, COUNTY PLANNER.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE WILL WORK WITH GARRETT AND THEN WE'LL AND RICH FUN.
AND WE'LL SEE IF, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE OBSTACLES ARE AND WHAT THE NEGATIVES ARE.
AND THEN IF IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY'S ON BOARD AND IT SEEMS LIKE THIS IS A PROJECT THAT'S WORTHWHILE AND THE COUNTY IS ENTHUSIASTIC ABOUT IT, THEN WE COULD COME BACK AND THE TOWN COULD APPLY.
IF IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU, THERE'S NEGATIVES, NEGATIVES, THEN YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS, UH, RECONSIDER, BUT I'LL DO A LOT OF THE WORK.
SO THAT MEETING, THAT MEETING, I'M JUST REALLY QUICKLY, SO THAT MEETING THAT YOU HAVE, IT SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE RICH AND GARY OF COURSE, AT THAT SAME MEETING.
SO EVERYONE HEARS THE SAME THING.
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NO, BECAUSE NO, BECAUSE BY MYSELF, I DON'T, WE EVEN, WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE AT THE TOWN LEVEL WHO UNDERSTAND ENGINEERING AND FLOOD MITIGATION.THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING THEY NEED TO MEET THERE WITH YOU.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW? RIGHT.
SO IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT SOMEBODY BOUGHT A PROPERTY IN A, IN AN AREA KNOWN TO FLOOD, UH, AND PROBABLY GOT IT FOR A GOOD PRICE.
'CAUSE IT'S AN AREA KNOWN TO FLOOD.
UH, THE PROPOSAL NOW IS FOR THE TOWN TO BUY THAT PROPERTY, TAXPAYER MONEY KNOWN TO FLOOD.
UM, AND IT'S ALSO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PART OF THIS PROGRAM IS THE PERSON GETS REIMBURSED FOR THAT BUILDING AS IF THERE, IT'S NOT IN A FLOOD AREA.
THAT'S A MAJOR GIFT BASICALLY TO THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY, IS MY UNDERSTANDING, BECAUSE THESE EMAILS GO BACK AND FORTH.
BUT EMAILS MEAN NOTHING TO ME UNTIL I SEE THINGS ACTUALLY IN WRITING AND DOCUMENTS.
WHAT IS THE ACTUAL PROPOSAL? IS IT TO TAKE DOWN THE BUILDING AND LET THE AREA FLOOD AS A BASIN? WHAT, WHAT IS THE PROPOSAL? OTHER THAN MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT HE WANTS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM SPEAKING TO MR. DODA, AND I THINK HE HAS TO MEET WITH THE, YOU KNOW, TOWN BOARD, IS THAT HE WANTS TO USE THE BUILDING FOR, UM, FOR, UH, CHILDCARE CENTER.
THAT'S WHAT HE, YOU KNOW, WELL, HE HAS BEEN AFTER, AFTER.
AND I THINK WHAT HE SAID AT THAT MEETING IS THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHO ADVISED THEM, I DON'T RECALL, BUT THEY DID SOME WORK WHICH THEY THOUGHT WOULD REMEDIATE THE EFFECTS OF FLOODING, BUT IT WAS IN NO WAY, UM, WORKABLE.
AND, AND THAT DID NOT WORK OUT.
SO, BUT, BUT TO, TO, UM, COUNCILMAN SHEEN'S POINT, UM, IT, IT WOULD BE, WE, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO NOT ONLY UNDERSTAND WHAT'S AVAILABLE, BUT ALSO WHAT THE REPERCUSSIONS WOULD BE AND WHAT THE PLAN WOULD BE GOING FORWARD.
THEY WANT TO GET OUT OF THAT PROPERTY.
NO, MY UNDERSTANDING IS HE WANTS TO, UH, OPEN UP A DAYCARE CENTER IN A FLOOD ZONE.
THEN HE WANTS US TO, UH, HE WANTS THE COUNTY THROUGH FEMA AND THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, TO WORK COOPERATIVELY IN TERMS OF MAKING THE PROPERTY, UM, HABITABLE, HABITABLE FOR, UH, A CHILDCARE, UH, YOU KNOW, FACILITY.
WHICH IS WHAT, HE DOESN'T WANT THE TOWN TO BUY THE PROPERTY.
HE JUST, BUT THE THING IS, HE SAID WE WOULD HAVE TO, AND AGAIN, WE SHOULD INVITE HIM HERE, BECAUSE WHEN I'VE HAD, SO IS THE ASK FOR MEDIATION, WHAT IS THE ASK? ASK? IT'S A FEE FEMA GRANT TO ADDRESS TO DEAL WITH FLOOD CONTROL.
SO TO GET THE PROPERTY TO ADDRESS FLOODING.
SO TO GET A GRANT ON HIS BEHALF.
WHY WOULD THE COUNTY DIDN'T WANT AN EASEMENT OVER THE ENTIRE PROPERTY? I, I, AGAIN, I'M JUST REPEATING READING WHAT, WHAT THEY SAID I HAVEN'T HAD, AND THEY SAID THEY HAD NO INTEREST IN BUYING, UH, BE, UH, OWNING THE PROPERTY, WHICH LED ME TO BELIEVE THE TOWN IS THE ONE THAT'S GONNA OWN THE PROPERTY.
NO, MY, NO, BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING OF, AGAIN, WE, BUT THIS IS THE KIND OF THING THAT SHOULD BE WORKED OUT IN ADVANCE COMING HERE TO THE TABLE.
THAT'S THE POINT THAT WE MAKE ALL THE TIME.
BUT FEMA BASICALLY HAS PLANS THEY PUT ON THE AGENDA AND NO, BE FEMA HAS DETAILS.
THE PROBLEM IS THIS WAS SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A MEETING, RIGHT? THE COUNTY WAS MORE THAN RESPONSIVE.
THEY WERE, YOU KNOW, THEY CAME UP WITH THE IDEA, RIGHT? THIS WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW, MONTHS AGO, MR. DUDA THEN APPROACHED ME AND SAID, I'D LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THE SUGGESTION.
FEMA HAS A LOCAL SHARE REQUIREMENT TO MANY OF THE GRANTS.
THEY DON'T GIVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE GRANTS.
THEY DON'T GIVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE FUNDS UNLESS THERE'S A 10% LOCAL CONTRIBUTION.
SO AFTER YOU SENT ME THE, OR THE TOWN BOARD AN EMAIL SAYING, WHAT'S THAT? WHO'S PAYING THE 10%? I WROTE TO THE COUNTY, AND THE COUNTY SAID THE COUNTY WILL PAY THE 10%.
SO THE TOWN, IF THEY SAID NO, THEY TA THE TA, IT SAID THE COUNTY MAY BE ABLE TO PAY THE 10%.
BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE NOT, WE, WE HAVEN'T SIGNED ANYTHING.
SO THE, SO ASSUMING THAT THE TOWN, IF THE COUNTY IS WILLING TO TAKE THE 10% AND ASSUMING THAT WE COULD ADDRESS THE FLOODING PROBLEM AND IT'S NOT GONNA COST THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING, THEN I FEEL THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD HELP, IF CHILDCARE, YOU KNOW, CENTER AND THE UKRAINIAN COMMUNITY, UH, ACHIEVED THEIR DREAM OF OPENING UP A, A DAYCARE CENTER, I THINK THAT WOULD BE POSITIVE.
IF THE TOWN HAS TO CONTRIBUTE THE 10% IS $500,000, WE PROBABLY DON'T HAVE THAT MONEY AND WE ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO IT.
SO, UM, SO THE THING IS, I, THE ONLY REASON I BROUGHT THIS UP IS BASICALLY IF IT, BECAUSE I WAS EXCITED WHEN
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IT SAID THE COUNTY MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY THE WHOLE THING.AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE'VE BEEN ADDRESSING THE FLOODING ON MANHATTAN BROOK, WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS IT IN TROUBLESOME BROOK.
WE'VE BEEN GOING ALL OVER THE TOWN DEALING WITH, UM, WITH FLOOD INITIATIVES.
SO EVERY TIME WE'RE ABLE TO SOLVE A FLOODING PROBLEM, EVEN IF IT'S FOR A SMALL AREA, IT'S ONE LESS FLOODED, YOU KNOW, AREA.
AND I, I SORT OF FEEL THAT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD ADDRESS FLOODING AT THIS LOCATION.
WELL, I THINK WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
WE ALL WANT TO, WE JUST NEED MORE INFORMATION.
I, I'M NOT, AND, AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.
AND NOW MY JOB IS TO GET MORE INFORMATION AND THEN COME BACK.
SO MAYBE, SO MAYBE IN, MAYBE IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE THIS, MAYBE YOU BRING US THE DETAILS PRIOR TO US SO WE CAN, SO WE CAN HAVE A FRUITFUL CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS.
WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT EVEN PREPARED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
NO, I, I'M JUST PAUL PAUL, PAUL, PAUL, THIS IS JUST A SUGGESTION TO YOU.
THIS IS NOTHING, THIS IS NOTHING TO COME BACK.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE BRING US DETAILS WHEN YOU'RE PUTTING THE STUFF ON THE AGENDA, SO WE HAVE SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT.
AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU'RE NOT GIVING US THE DETAILS, YOU'RE READING STUFF OFF YOUR, YOUR PHONE.
BUT WE DON'T, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE US THE DETAILS A WEEK PRIOR TO YOU PUTTING ON AGENDA SO WE HAVE TIME TO UNDERSTAND IT.
YEAH, BUT I, I HAVE TO ADMIT THAT THE MINUTE I GOT THE INFORMATION I'VE BEEN FORWARDING YOU, I'VE BEEN, BEEN FORWARDING EVERYTHING THAT I HAVE TO THE TOWN BOARD.
I KNOW, BUT I KNOW WHICH IS NOT MUCH OF ANYTHING
BUT THAT'S WHY NOW THIS MEETING WAS, IT APPEARED TO ME THEY WANTED TO TAKE DOWN THE BUILDING AND HAVE AN AREA THAT FLOODS.
THAT DOESN'T BOTHER ANYBODY BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
BUT IT, IT MAY BE THAT THEY STILL WANT TO HAVE, AND IT'S, I, I'VE BEEN THERE.
WE'VE, I THINK WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE.
IT'S VERY NICE WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO THERE.
UH, IT'S JUST, IT'S A LOT OF MONEY AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPOSAL IS, NOR DO YOU AT THIS POINT.
BUT THAT'S WHY THIS MEETING WAS, THAT'S WHY WORK SESSION IS REALLY GREAT.
THIS IS LIKE A FANTASTIC MEETING.
BECAUSE, WELL, I, BECAUSE BASICALLY SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, AS A RESULT OF THIS MEETING, YOU GAVE ME INSTRUCTIONS THAT I HADN'T THOUGHT OF.
SO NOW, NOW, AS A RESULT OF THIS MEETING, WE'RE GONNA DO IT BETTER THE NEXT TIME AND WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL BE MORE PREPARED, YOU KNOW, WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION.
UH, I, I HAD, I HAVE BEEN MORE QUESTIONS TO ASK THAT HAVEN'T BEEN THOUGHT OF.
THAT'S WHAT A WORK SESSION'S ABOUT.
IT'S ABOUT GIVE AND TAKE HAVING DISCUSSIONS.
SO I, I APPRECIATE, I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE BOARD.
ALRIGHT, IS THAT AGENDA REVIEW TIME? OKAY.
UM, ACTUALLY WHILE WE'RE ON THAT TOPIC, WE DID RECEIVE AN INVITATION FOR THE, UH, FULTON, UH, THE MEETING AT FOR FULTON.
AND I DID RESPOND, UH, I'M GONNA TRY TO COME, BUT, AND I, I SPOKE TO, TO LUIS SANCHEZ TODAY.
HE, IT'S NOT JUST THAT THEY WANT A BOARD MEMBER, THEY REALLY WANT EITHER THE COMMISSIONER OR SOMEONE FROM THAT DEPARTMENT TO ANSWER VERY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS.
SO WHAT DP W WHAT WOULD, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FULTON AREA, THE FLOODING THAT'S GONNA FULTON AREA.
WE'VE MET A COUPLE OF TIMES OVER THERE.
NO, THIS IS HIS BIG, THERE'S A MEETING.
'CAUSE I'M JUST SAYING NO, I'M SAYING HOLD ON.
THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION IS A MEETING THAT'S COMING UP ON THE 30TH OF MAY.
AND THEIR REQUEST TO HAVE JUST A BOARD MEMBER IS REALLY NOT, I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN, WAS NOT WHAT THEY'RE LOOK, HE'S LOOKING TO DO.
HE REALLY WANTS TO HAVE EITHER RICH FONT OR SOMEONE FROM THE DEPARTMENT TALK ABOUT SPECIFICS OF WHAT THE STATUSES OF THE PROJECTS THAT ARE GOING TO REMEDIATE THE, THE, CAN I JUST MENTION SOMETHING? BECAUSE I SPOKE TO, UH, MR. SANCHEZ, UH, IN THE MORNING MM-HMM
AND UM, THEN I TENTATIVELY SET UP A MEETING FOR NEXT TUESDAY AT FOUR 30 BEFORE OUR WORK SESSION.
AND I ASKED RICH IF HE COULD PARTICIPATE WITH LOUIS.
THAT'S SEPARATE FROM NO, THAT, THAT'S A LEAD UP TO WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
I'M JUST TALKING ABOUT THIS BIG MEETING AT THE COUNTY CENTER.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE, IF I'M JUST THROWING OUT SOMETHING, UM, IF WE'RE, IF LOUIS SANCHEZ AND MYSELF, AND IF YOU WANT TO ATTEND OR ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO ATTEND, IS, IS MEETING WITH RICH.
AND RICH IS ABLE TO SAY, THESE ARE THE ACTION STEPS THAT ARE TAKEN.
AND WE HAVE THAT MEETING ON TUESDAY.
UM, I MEAN, HIS MEETING THAT HE WANTS TO HAVE IS ON A FRIDAY NIGHT.
SO I'M SORT OF, I SORT OF, I'M JUST SAYING, I SORT OF FEEL, IS IT REALLY FEAR TO REQUIRE OR TO ASK A COMMISSIONER TO COME IN TO COME IN, YOU KNOW, ON A FRIDAY EVENING RIGHT.
WHEN WE'RE HAVING A MEETING AND WE COULD EXPLAIN THE SAME THING TO HIM ON TUESDAY AND SOMEBODY COULD TAKE, YOU KNOW, THEY COULD, HE COULD TAKE NOTES AND THEN JUST REPORT BACK.
'CAUSE RICH SAID TO ME, WE'RE GONNA ADDRESS THE PROBLEM.
HE NEVER SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA ADDRESS IT.
SO THE QUESTION IS IF HE'S GONNA ADDRESS THE PROBLEM AND HE SAID, I JUST NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND THESE ARE THE HOLDUPS, YOU
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KNOW, WE COULD JUST REPORT THAT.WELL, FOR CLARITY, LET ME, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
SINCE BOTH OF YOU SPOKE TO MR. SANCHEZ, UM, AND IT'S AT THE COUNTY CENTER, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE A BIG MEETING AND IT'S NOT JUST THE, THE, THERE WERE TWO FLOODING ISSUES.
ONE WAS MORE LOCAL, THAT'S TOWN OF GREENBURG AND ONE IS MORE AREA WIDE THAT IS GREATER AND MORE COUNTY.
AND SO, UM, WE SHOULD GET MORE SPECIFICS ON THAT AND WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
WHAT'S THE AGENDA OF THE BIG MEETING? WHAT IS THE AGENDA THAT THEY'RE PLANNING? IS THE COUNTY, IS THE COUNTY PERSON NOW GONNA BE THERE TOO? I BELIEVE THAT LEGISLATOR, JOEL WILLIAMS JOHNSON IS GONNA, OKAY.
AND THERE'S, THERE'S MORE TO IT THAN THAT BECAUSE, UM, THERE, THERE BEEN SEVERAL, UM, UM, ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS STUDIES AND, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S BEEN RESURRECTED.
WE, IF WE'RE GONNA COMMENT ON IT, WE SHOULD BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THAT.
BUT I THINK, I THINK IN THIS MEETING TO TO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT MEET WHAT IT NEEDS TO MEET, YOU NEED TO HAVE EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM.
SO IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE TOWN STAFF, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE COUNTY STAFF, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE STATE STAFF, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THOSE PEOPLE IN THE ROOM.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IN SPEAKING TO MR. SANCHEZ, IF YOU SUGGESTED THAT TO HIM, RIGHT.
THAT HE HAS EVERYONE IN THE ROOM.
BECAUSE WE CAN ONLY SPEAK TO US.
WE'RE GONNA SPEAK TO A CERTAIN PART AND WHAT WE OWN, AND WE CAN'T SPEAK TO EVERYTHING.
SO I THINK INSTEAD OF HAVING VARIOUS MEETINGS, AND WE'VE HAD VARIOUS MEETINGS IN THE PAST, IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS HUGE MEETING ON THE 30TH WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE, WITH THE COMMUNITY OF FULTON PARK, THEN WE HAVE ALL THE PLAYERS IN PLACE.
BECAUSE THEN ALL I THINK YOUR QUESTIONS WILL ALL BE ANSWERED AT THAT TIME.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD SUGGEST TO, UM, WELL, WHAT I I, WHAT I DIDN'T GET A SENSE OF, 'CAUSE IT WAS A VERY QUICK CONVERSATION, IS WHAT IS THE STRUCTURE OF THE MEETING? WHAT'S THE AGENDA OF THE MEETING? WHO ARE THE PLAYERS? WHO'S BEEN INVITED, WHO'S ATTENDING ALL THAT STUFF.
RIGHT? WE DON'T KNOW THAT ALL HE WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE TOWN.
SO I DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS YET.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE, I MEAN, YOU COULD SUGGEST THAT THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
I THINK SO WE GET EVERYBODY PLACE.
BUT THE, THE MEANING THAT THE SUPERVISOR TALKING ABOUT WAS IN RESPONSE TO AN EMAIL THAT WE RECEIVED FROM MR. SANCHEZ ABOUT UPDATES TO HIM PERSONALLY REGARDING THE PROJECTS THAT THE TOWN IS WORKING ON SPECIFIC TOWN ISSUES WITH.
SO THAT'S CITY AND HIS NEIGHBOR.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S A DIFFERENT OH YEAH.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING, AND YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY TO BE YELLING AT EVERYBODY.
AND I'M POINTING FINGERS AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT IT WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER OFF IF THERE WOULD BE LIKE A MEETING AND MAYBE THE ENTIRE TOWN BOARD, THE, THE PEOPLE IN THE COUNT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE IN THE COUNTY, UH, YOU HAVE THE COUNTY.
IF THERE'S A NEW FLOOD, YOU KNOW, UH, RELIEF PERSON.
PERSON FROM THE MAINTENANCE WHO, WHO'S, WHO PROMISED TO DO MAINTENANCE OF THE, THE RIVER GETTING RID OF THE OBSTRUCTIONS.
I FEEL THAT IF WE, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD, IF WE HAD A MEETING ON AN EVENING, NOT A WEEKEND EVENING, THAT'S INCONVENIENT FOR, FOR GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, YOU KNOW, TO ATTEND.
I THINK IF WE HAD A, A MEETING AT A NORMAL TIME, GAVE PEOPLE ADVANCED NOTICE, TOLD THE COUNTY THIS IS THE INFORMATION WE NEED, WELL THAT'S WHAT THE REASON FOR THE 30TH.
IS THERE REASON WHY IT'S A FRIDAY NIGHT? THIS IS, WE KNOW, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE PLANNING, HOW IT CAME ABOUT.
SO THAT'S WHAT I REALLY WANNA GO.
LET'S JUST GET SOME CLARITY CONVERSATION WITH MR. SANCHEZ AND ASK HIM, MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE IT.
BUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS NO FIGHTING HERE.
I THINK THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO BE IN THE ROOM SO EVERYONE CAN HEAR THE SAME MESSAGE AND EVERYONE CAN UNDERSTAND WHICH ROLE EACH, EACH OF US PLAYS.
SO WHEN YOU SAY THAT NO ONE'S GONNA BE IN THE ROOM FIGHTING, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY ASKING QUESTIONS OF CONCERN THEY HAVE OF THEIR PROPERTIES.
NO, BUT THIS HAS, WE'VE HAD, THE ONLY REASON I SAID FIGHTING IS BECAUSE THERE'S GONNA BE A FIGHT.
LIKE I JUST, NO, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS FELT THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING LISTENED TO FOR DECADES.
SO THE THING IS, SO, BUT THAT'S WHY THE SUGGESTION, PAUL, BECAUSE WE GONNA BELABOR IT.
BUT I, THAT'S WHY THE SUGGESTION IS SUGGEST TO MR. SANCHEZ THAT HE HAS ALL THE PARTIES IN THE ROOM THAT'S, THAT'S RESPONSIBLE SO THEY CAN ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE ANSWERS FOR THE COUNTY.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE ANSWERS FOR THE STATE.
SO I THINK I WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
YEAH, THE FOUR 30, GOING BACK TO THE FOUR 30 MEETING IF'S FINE.
SPECIFIC TO THE GREENBERG ISSUES, THE MORE LOCALIZED ISSUES.
IT WOULD BE NICE IF SOMEONE ELSE COULD ATTEND, ESPECIALLY OUR LIAISON TO THE DPW.
COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON IF SHELL, SO IF YOU CAN WORK THAT OUT.
BUT I'LL FOLLOW UP ABOUT THE BIG MEETING, BUT I REMEMBER LIKE ABOUT A YEAR AGO, DAVID IMAN WERE ORGANIZED A MEETING IN THE COUNTY RELATING TO THE SAWMILL RIVER.
AND HE HAD YOU, YOU MEAN THE TOUR? THE TOUR? NOT THE TOUR.
THIS WAS, UH, I THINK THAT WAS AT THE
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COUNTY CENTER.UM, UM, WELL THAT'S THE ONE I REFERRED TO BEFORE.
THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD MEETING WITH DEAN TAR.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS A REALLY GOOD MEETING.
AND LOOK WHAT YOU MENTIONED, SEE, SEE WHO YOU MENTIONED THE PARTY IN THAT MEETING WAS THE COUNTY.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SUGGESTION THAT WE'RE HAVING HERE.
SO, YEAH, NO, WE'RE NOT DISAGREEING, BUT I JUST SORT FEEL THAT IF THE, IF WE HAD EVERYBODY LIKE ALL OF US TOGETHER WITH THE STATE, WHATEVER.
WELL THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE SAYING.
COUNCILWOMAN BER HAS SAID THAT SHE WILL REACH OUT AND SHE'LL GET MORE DETAIL AND SHE'LL SHARE IT WITH US.
AND THEN WE'LL SEE WHERE WE GO FROM THERE.
I JUST WANNA GO BACK TO OUR PRIOR CONVERSATION BECAUSE I KNOW WHEN I READ SOMETHING, THERE WAS AN EMAIL FROM PETER DUDA TO YOU, PAUL AND TOWN BOARD WAS NOT COPIED ON IT.
UH, AND THE COUNTY WAS INVOLVED.
SO YOU WERE GOING WITH THE COUNTY, PETER DUDA, UH, REGARDING THIS PROJECT.
AND THEN IN HIS EMAIL TO YOU, HE SAYS THE TOWN WOULD TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE LAND.
I WANTED TO ASK YOU IF YOU WOULD BE COMFORTABLE PROCEEDING WITH THIS PROJECT AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SIX MINUTES LATER YOU WROTE BACK SAYING, I'M SUPPORTIVE OF THIS INITIATIVE WHERE HE SAYS THE TOWN WOULD OWN THE LAND, WILL ASK THE TOWN BOARD SINCE THE BOARD NEEDS TO AUTHOR, UH, AUTHORIZE.
YOU CAN CALL ME ANYTIME, PAUL FINER.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAY, YOU KNOW, AND YOU DIDN'T THINK WE'RE GONNA OWN THE LAND, BUT NO, I SAID PROPOSING SEEMS TO BE, THERE'S A BUILDING ON THE LAND, WHICH IS DIFFERENT THAN OWNING THE LAND, THE BUILDING.
I, I NEVER SAID THAT WOULD TAKE THE LAND.
I MY OWN THE LAND, BUT THEY'LL OWN THE BUILDING.
THAT'S, THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING.
THAT'S WHAT THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TOAND IF THERE'S A FLOOD RULE, IF THERE'S A FLOOD RULE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'LL, WE'RE GONNA CALL MR. DUDA.
WE WILL HAVE HIM, YOU KNOW, MEET WITH US.
WE'LL SEE WHAT I WOULD LIKE A WRITTEN PROPOSAL.
I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA ASK HIM TO REVIEW, UH, THIS MEETING BECAUSE IT'S BEING TAPED AND TO RESPONDENT TO GIVE US A WRITTEN PROPOSAL AND THEN MEET WITH US AND PROVIDE US WITH MORE DETAILS.
UM, SO I THINK WE'RE UP TO AGENDA REVIEW.
LET'S SEE WHAT'S, SO I'M JUST GONNA SKIP DOWN REALLY QUICKLY JUST TO, SO THERE IS A, MY BROTHER'S KEEPER PRESENTATION HAS NOTHING TO IT.
ONE OF THE THINGS IS WHAT THEY DID, BUT IT'S NOT ABOUT A TOY DRIVE.
SO WE JUST NEEDED TO REMOVE THE TOY DRIVE THING.
I MEANT TO TAKE THAT, I MEANT TO CALL HER ABOUT THAT.
THIS IS A WAITING, THIS PRESENTATION'S, A WAITING CONFIRMATION.
UM, UM, A YOUNG MAN FROM WOODLANDS SCHOOL SUBMITTED, UM, SUBMITTED ARTWORK THAT WAS EXHIBITED AT THE NEWBERGER FOR THE CONGRESSIONAL, UH, ART CHALLENGE.
WE DID AGREE THAT WE WERE GONNA PUT THAT ON.
WE, YEAH, WE TALKED ABOUT IT, BUT, BUT I, I REACHED OUT TO HOLLY AND SHE SO WOULD YOU LIKE IT ACTUALLY ON THE AGENDA INSTEAD OF THIS LITTLE THING?
AND SHE DIDN'T GET THE, THE CONFIRMATION.
AND I HAD REACHED OUT DIRECTLY TO, AND I HAVEN'T GOTTEN CONFIRMATION BACK.
THERE WAS A, THERE WAS AN EMAIL ABOUT A GROUP OF 15 STUDENTS OR SOMETHING THAT HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS BASICALLY, UM, TOMORROW EVENING, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, LIKE THIS ORGANIZING A MEETING WITH, UM, UH, TWO STUDENTS.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE'S FROM, UM, YOU KNOW, LEY AND THEY'RE ORGANIZING A PROGRAM, UH, FOR 15, UH, UH, GIRLS, SEVENTH AND EIGHTH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW GRADERS? WHERE ARE YOU READING IT FROM? UH, NO, I'M JUST MENTIONING.
SO THEY'RE MEETING FROM FIVE 30 TO SEVEN O'CLOCK HERE.
UM, AND THEY'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUNG GIRLS WITH INFORMATION ON, UM, UH, MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.
IT'S PART OF THE CLINTON FOUNDATION, UM, INITIATIVE, UH, THAT THEY'RE PARTICIPATING IN.
THEY'RE, UH, BOTH MASTER SCHOOL, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, STUDENTS.
AND THEN AFTER THE PROGRAM, SORT OF LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH THE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE ENERGY SAVING KITS, YOU KNOW, AT SEVEN, OH, IS THIS THAT DANIEL, THEN THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA SPEAK FOR FIVE MINUTES.
IS THAT THIS DANIEL LOBE? AND YEAH.
SO THEY'RE GONNA SPEAK IT FOR FIVE, FIVE MINUTES AND JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THEY DID EARLIER ON.
THIS IS PART OF A SCHOOL PROJECT.
IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE, THEY WERE EACH CREATING A POWERPOINT.
THEY WERE CREATING A P THEY, THEY WANT TO HAVE A POWERPOINT JUST TO DISCUSS, TO SHOW PEOPLE ONE POWERPOINT OR 15 POWERPOINTS.
I'M, UM, IT'S GONNA BE A SHORT POWERPOINT, ALTHOUGH I, I'LL TELL THEM A SINGLE POWERPOINT POINT OR FIVE 15 SHORT POWERPOINTS.
I'LL ASK THEM A FEW NOW THAT YOU, I'M GONNA TELL 'EM TO LIMIT IT TO FIVE, YOU KNOW, A SINGLE FIVE MINUTE.
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YEAH, BUT THERE'S 15 PEOPLE JUST INTRODUCE NO, THE 15 NO, THE 15 PEOPLE ARE NOT, THEY'RE GONNA BE, THEY'RE GONNA BE OUT BY SEVEN.WHAT, SO THE 15 PEOPLE ARE COMING HERE, WE'RE MEETING HERE AT FIVE 30 TO SEVEN.
WITH, AND THEY'RE HAVING THEIR CLINTON INITIATIVE.
UM, UM, OH, AND MENTAL, YOU'RE NOT PART OF THAT.
NOT YOU'RE NOT, THIS IS NOT OUR MEETING.
IT'S NOT YOUR, THIS IS SOMETHING PAUL'S DOING.
SO AT SEVEN, THEY'RE LEAVING AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.
THE TWO MASTER SCHOOL STUDENTS WHO ARE ORGANIZING THIS ARE THEN GONNA MAKE A BRIEF PRESENTATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO IT HAS LIKE, THEY'RE JUST SAYING THIS IS WHAT WE JUST DID, SORT OF LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH THE ENERGY SAVINGS, WHERE IT'S JUST, AND WE'RE GIVING THE PROCLAMATION TO THE SILVER BOWL RECIPIENT.
SHE MAY OR MAY NOT BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.
SO IF SHE DOESN'T MAKE IT, WE'LL JUST POSTPONE IT.
DO WE HAVE IT READY TO, IS IT READY TO BE? IT WILL BE.
AND THIS SOUNDS REALLY WONDERFUL GOING BACK TO THE TWO MASTER SCHOOL, UM, TEAM WORKSHOP KIDS.
I'M REALLY IMPRESSED WITH THAT.
THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH OUR COPIER
THE TELLER IS NOT BEING FIXED TO THE PAPER.
OH, I JUST THOUGHT IT WAS TIME.
NO, I WILL NEED THE, I WILL NEED THE BOARD, UM, TO SIGN THE, THE CERTIFICATES FOR, IT'S FOR THE EIGHT STUDENTS ON HERE.
OH, THEY'RE FOR MY BROTHER'S KEEPER.
AND I WILL TELL HOLLY THAT SHE CAN GLADLY COME TO MY OFFICE AND USE MY COPIER
THIS IS, I DON'T KNOW WHERE SHE RAN THOSE OFF.
SHE DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY WAS NOT MY OFFICE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE LOCAL LAW CLIMATE CHANGE PROPERTY TAX RELIEF ACT, WE DO HAVE THAT.
IT SAYS RESCHEDULED TO MAY 28TH.
SHOULD WE JUST RIGHT NOW PUT THAT TO JUNE 11TH CONSIDERING THE COMMENTS FROM THE ASSESSOR TONIGHT? YES.
WHICH ONE IS THAT? THE SECOND, UH, PUBLIC HEARING.
IT ALREADY SAYS MAY 20, JUNE 11TH.
DID WE TELL HER JUNE 11TH? IS IT TD TWO? SHE SAID YOU HAVE TO FIND OUT SHE DID THE MEETING AFTER THAT.
THE MEETING AFTER 25TH IS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING OPTIONS.
SO IT'S THE SECOND JUNE 25TH THEN JUNE 25TH.
AND WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE ONE BEFORE IT? OH, JUNE ONE, BEFORE THAT'S BEING HEARD TOMORROW NIGHT WE AMENDED THE LAW AS DIRECTED TO TAKE OUT THE LANGUAGE ABOUT NEIGHBORING MUNICIPALITIES AND ALSO PUT IN CRITERIA TO SHOW DOCUMENTATION THAT MUST BE PROVIDED TO THE ASSESSOR AND THE CONTROLLER IN REGARDS TO THE SERVICE REQUIREMENTS.
WELL, TB THREE, UM, THE GLENVILLE FIRE DISTRICT.
UM, LAST WEEK I SPOKE TO, UH, RICHARD SLINGERLAND AND HE SAID THAT THE VILLAGE HAD STILL HAD SOME OBJECTIONS OVER AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT IT BACK ON THE AGENDA TO TAKE CARE OF THE OBJECTION.
OKAY, SO NOW EVERYTHING'S FINE.
ONE, IF YOU APPROVE IT ON WEDNESDAY NIGHT, IT SHOULD BE FINE.
JOE, DO YOU HAVE A YOU HAVE THIS ON YOU.
I PAUL, DO YOU HAVE THIS
UM, YEAH, I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH THIS.
UM, WE HAVE BOND RESOLUTIONS ON.
COULD I ASK YOU A QUESTION WITH A T SEVEN RELATING TO THE HIRING OF, UH, VINCENT TOY.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE INSTEAD OF HAVING THIS, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE, YOU KNOW, ALL THESE SPECIAL COUNSEL COSTS.
YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER YEARS AGO I OBJECTED ALSO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, HIRING ALL THESE OUTSIDE ATTORNEYS.
COULD WE, WOULD WE BE BETTER OFF, UH, DOING IT IN-HOUSE RATHER THAN, UH, YOU KNOW, HAVING, BECAUSE I JUST SORT FEEL IT IS.
SO, JILL, YOU WANNA GIVE IT AGAIN
SO, SO THIS IS SPECIAL COUNSEL FOR PERSONNEL PURPOSES THAT GOES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT MY OFFICE CAN HANDLE AT THIS TIME, ESPECIALLY WITH SHORT STAFF.
UM, I WILL SAY THAT WE'VE BEEN USING THE LAW OFFICE OF VINCENT TOMI FOR 30 PLUS YEARS AND THEY WERE FORMALLY NOT RESOLUTIONS.
AND I PUT IT ON AS A RESOLUTION BECAUSE I FELT THE PUBLIC SHOULD SEE WHERE THE MONEY IS BEING SENT SPENT AND TRANSPARENCY.
SO THIS MAY LOOK LIKE A NEW ENDEAVOR, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NOT.
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JOB AND I BELIEVE THEY ACTUALLY SAVE THE TOWN MONEY IN THE LONG TERM BASED ON THEIR SERVICES.I DO UNDERSTAND THOUGH, THAT YOU DO WANNA LIMIT SPECIAL COUNSEL FEES AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
UM, AND ALSO NOT THE CASE FOR A T SEVEN.
BUT, UM, IN TERMS OF SOME OTHER RESOLUTIONS, UM, NOT THE ONES ON TOMORROW, BUT A LOT OF THE TIME YOU'LL SEE AN OVERALL NUMBER THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY BEING PAID BY THE TOWN.
A LOT OF IT'S BEING PAID BY INSURANCE ONCE WE HIT OUR SELF-INSURED RETENTION, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE LARGER CASES THAT GO ON FOR A FEW YEARS.
WE'VE MET THAT RETENTION QUITE A LONG TIME AGO.
BUT I'LL CONTINUE TO LIMIT IT AS MUCH AS AS POSSIBLE.
I MEAN, I STILL HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS BUT KIMBERLY, WE HAD MORE BOND RESOLUTIONS ON IN JANUARY THAT ARE NOT ON THIS ONE.
IS THERE A REASON? ARE THESE LIKE THE PREFERRED ONES? AND FEEL FREE TO COME TO THE TABLE.
I THINK WE HAD ALMOST 20, UM, IN JANUARY.
SO THE BOND RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE NOT INCLUDED ON THERE ARE THE SEWARD LINE, UM, SPECIAL DISTRICT.
'CAUSE THERE ARE CERTAIN GUIDELINES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW, UH, FOR MUNICIPAL SECURITIES BORROWING.
UM, SOME OF THOSE GUIDELINES INCLUDE MAPPING, ENGINEER REPORTS, ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.
UM, THERE'S ALSO A DIFFERENT PROCESS THAT HAS TO TAKE PLACE.
UM, UH, GARRETT INDICATED THAT, UM, UH, THERE'S A WAREHOUSE PROPOSAL, BMR LEY PARK, LLC, LOCATED AT FOUR TEN FOUR SIXTY.
SO MILL RIVER ROAD, AND I YOU'RE PRACTICING PUT TOMORROW NIGHT,
UH, YEAH, I BASICALLY, UM, UM, I SENT A, A QUICK EMAIL TO THE MAYORS OF ORLEY, DOS FERRY AND HASTINGS BECAUSE IT'S NEAR, YOU KNOW, EACH OF THE, YOU KNOW, THOSE COMMUNITIES INDICATING THAT THIS IS, YOU KNOW, BEING, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSED.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE A MEETING WITH THE APPLICANT JUST LIKE WE DID WITH THE, WITH ANOTHER, YOU KNOW, PROJECT AND INVITE THE, THE VILLAGES.
UM, WELL, IT HAS TO GO THROUGH ZONING AND, AND PLANNING BEFORE IT EVEN GETS TO US.
NO, I'M JUST TALKING THREE CD, CD THREE, CD THREE BECAUSE THE WEAR A WAREHOUSE COULD BE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD LIKE A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION WHAT THE WAREHOUSE, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH TRAFFIC AND ALL THAT IS GONNA BE.
WE RECEIVED A WHOLE, UH, EMAIL FROM GARRETT ABOUT IT.
AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT I, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE THE APPLICANT AT A, AT A TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
AND I ALSO, UM, WOULD LIKE TO RENEW THE REQUEST.
THIS IS LIKE, I THINK THE PERFECT TIME WHEN WE COULD SEE IF WE COULD PUSH FOR A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE OVER THE BLE PARKWAY, YOU KNOW, ON UH, ON WELL THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY OUT OF OUR POCKETS.
NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR THEM TO PAY.
AS A, BUT IT, YOU KNOW, IT STARTS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, SO NO, BUT I, I, I SORT OF FAILED THAT ON IF YOU, IF YOU HAVING A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT OVER THERE THAT I JUST LIKE, I FEEL IT'S A DANGER, IT'S STILL A DANGEROUS CROSSING WITH NO BUS STOP AND YOU HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, NOW TO, WELL, WAREHOUSE WOULD BE TRUCK TRAFFIC THAT WOULD NOT IMPACT THE SAW MILL RIVER PARKWAY.
WELL, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T, TRUCKS CAN'T.
SO YOU MIGHT HAVE A HARD TIME ADVOCATING FOR THAT.
ALL THIS IS DOING IS DECLARING OUR INTENT TO BE LEAD AGENCY SO THAT THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES WILL BE DONE AND WILL BE THE ONES
I'M JUST SAYING THAT I'D LIKE THE, YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THAT WE COULD PUSH, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE AT THE ALLOCATION BECAUSE IT'S, IT IS, IT'S DEFINITELY NEEDED.
AND, AND I THINK THOUGH THOUGH THAT YOU, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TYING IT INTO SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T REALLY RELATE TO THAT.
SO YOU'D HAVE A HARD TIME MAKING THAT CASE AND YOU FAILED THAT WHEN YOU TRY IT WITH THE DOT BEFORE.
WELL I WON'T GIVE UP BECAUSE I KNOW I'M
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NOT SUGGESTING YOU GIVE UP, BUT I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE VEHICLE TO FORGET.ANYTHING ELSE? ANYONE? ALRIGHT.
NOT, NOT ON THIS, BUT IT JUST TOOK, OCCURRED TO ME THAT WE WERE GOING TO DO HAVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE, UH, GEOTHERMAL STUDY THAT, SORRY, GEOTECHNICAL STUDY.
I'M THINKING OF ICELAND WHEN I SAY GEOTHERMAL.
UM, THE, UH, THE REPORT, UH, THAT WAS GIVEN, UH, TO THE COMMISSIONER SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE FINDINGS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NORTH WASHINGTON? FOR NORTH WASHINGTON? YEAH.
SO MAYBE WE CAN DO THAT FOR THE NEXT WORK SESSION.
LET ME ASK, YOU KNOW, KIMBERLY, UM, QUESTION, UM, WE, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE SEWER BREAK.
UH, UH, AND WE, WE MAY HAVE TO GO FOR BOND TO PAY FOR ABOUT THE, ALL THE WORK THAT'S GONNA BE DONE ON EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE TO, UM, UM, FOR THE TOWN BOARD IF TO DO THE BONDING FOR, UH, FOR THAT AT THE SAME, AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE'RE DOING, YOU KNOW, THIS BOND, YOU KNOW, THIS BONDING BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THE WORK IS GONNA BE DONE BETWEEN, UM, SAY JULY AND, AND EARLY NEXT YEAR.
SO WHEN IT MAKES SENSE TO DO ALL THE BORROWING AT THE SAME TIME.
SO GOING BACK TO FRANCE'S QUESTION, WE UM, CANNOT GO OUT FOR BONDING YET.
ON THE SPECIFICALLY, I THINK IT'S $4 MILLION AND THERE'S 2 MILLION FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN CRITERIA UNDER THE MUNICIPAL SECURITY BORROWING LAWS, WHICH INCLUDES, UM, MAPS, ENGINEERING REPORTS, AND ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.
SO WE'RE WAITING NOW ON THE ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY.
SO EVEN IF I WANTED TO, I COULDN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
I DID READ YOUR EMAIL, THAT'S WHY
SO, UM, ONCE WE HAVE THAT, THEN WE CAN GO OUT FOR A SEPARATE BONDING.
YOU'RE VERY QUICK TO SHUT OFF YOUR
UM, I MOVE THAT WE GO TO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSE OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON, UH, VARIOUS MATTERS.