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UH, WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD, UH, WORK SESSION.AND, UH, THE FIRST ITEM, UM, UH, OF THE WORK SESSION IS A DISCUSSION OF, UM, AGENDA ITEM PROTOCOLS AND TOWN CLERK AND ASSISTANT TO, UH, THE TOWN COUNCIL.
UH, WOULD LIKE TO, UM, START THE PRESENTATION.
I MEAN, I HAVE IDEAS, BUT, OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE.
SO WHO, WHOSE ITEM IS THIS? THIS IS, UH, BOTH OF THEM.
YOU WANNA START? I HAVE THOUGHTS.
UM, AS YOU SAY, THERE IS, UM, THERE IS A PROCESS THAT WAS IN PLACE THAT, UM, THE PROPOSED, UM, MIMICS WHAT WAS BASICALLY ALREADY BEING DONE.
UM, THE ONLY ADDITION TO THE PROCESS FOR, UM, APPROVING AGENDAS FOR THE WORK SESSION, I, UM, IS, SO JUST TO GO THROUGH IT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBERS, UH, SUBMIT STAFF, AGENDA ITEMS, BOARD MEMBER, THE WHOLE BOARD, BOARD MEMBERS.
AND AS YOU SEE, THAT COMES FROM COLLEAGUES EXCEL SHEET.
AND THAT EIGHT AND NINE, EIGHT AND A HALF, FIVE, EIGHT AND A HALF BY 17, UH, EIGHT AND A HALF.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THERE'S INITIAL REVIEW.
AND THE REASON WHY I AM INSERTING, UM, MY OFFICE IS BECAUSE WHEN THE AGENDA, UH, COMES OUT, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S ON IT.
SO WHEN I, WHEN I, WHEN YOU GUYS SEE IT, IS WHEN I SEE IT.
SO WHEN THERE, THERE IS A TIME WHERE SOMEONE IS INVITED AND THEY ARE COME UP AND THEY'RE NOT ON THE AGENDA, WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
SO THAT'S WHY IF I'M ALERTED, THEN AT LEAST I CAN ONE, CONFIRM APPOINTMENTS IF THAT'S, THAT'S THE SIMPLEST THING, JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE WHO ARE INVITED GUESTS ARE COMING INTO THE BOARD SESSION AND PREPARED, AND THE BOARD IS PREPARED FOR.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS ABOUT TO SAY.
SO THEN IT'S JUST A MATTER OF ADDING ME TO THIS PROCESS FOR NOTIFICATION, BECAUSE I HAVE NOT, SO WHY CAN'T YOU AND HOLLY TALK AND JUST HAVE A CONVERSATION? LIKE I'M SAYING, LIKE, HAVE A MEETING, LIKE YOU GUYS, LIKE NO, LET ME OUT.
YOU GUYS JUST SET A TIME ASIDE, SIT DOWN AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE AND ALL JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T, YOU GUYS CAN HAVE A CONVERSATION.
AGENDA GOES OUT, WE TALKING ABOUT WORK SESSION OR WORK SESSION.
THE PROBLEM IS LIKE, YES, LIKE I KEEP EMAILING EVERYBODY AND I'LL SAY, OH, I WANT TO HAVE THIS ON THE AGENDA.
AND I, WELL, OVER THE YEARS, ANYTIME I PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, IT'S ALWAYS, IT WAS ALWAYS ON THE AGENDA.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN IF I PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, THE BOARD'S GONNA GO ALONG WITH WHAT I WANT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALWAYS DISCUSSED.
SO LAST WEEK, UH, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
WELL, I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS, I WAS NEVER, UH, I WAS HAPPY WITH THE PROCESS UNTIL, UP UNTIL A, UP UNTIL LIKE A WEEK AGO.
SO I UNDERSTAND THE BOARD'S CONCERNS THAT YOU MAY NOT WANT ME TO INVITE SOMEBODY TO A BOARD MEETING WITHOUT THE BOARD CONSENTING.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S FAIR.
SO ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS I HAVE IS, UM, IF ANY BOARD MEMBER, INCLUDING MYSELF, WANTS TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, THAT IT GOES ON THE AGENDA, BUT NOT FOR, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FOR DISCUSSION.
IT COULD BE FOR THE PURPOSES OF DECIDING WHETHER WE WANNA DISCUSS IT.
SO THIS WAY, LET'S SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE MAYORS OF HASTINGS AND TAR TOWN.
SO IF I SAY I WANT TO HAVE THAT AS A DISCUSSION ITEM, NO, THAT'S WASN'T THE I THE ITEM WAS CANNABIS, RIGHT? CANNABIS, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE MAYORS, IT'S ABOUT CANNABIS.
RIGHT? SO I WANNA HAVE A, A FOLLOW UP DISCUSSION ON IT.
IT WOULD SAY, UM, TOWN SUPERVISOR REQUEST CANNABIS DISCUSSION.
THEN, UH, WHEN WE HAVE THE WORK SESSION AS A GROUP, WE COULD SAY, OKAY, THIS IS WHY WE'RE READY TO INVITE THE MAYORS, OR WE'RE NOT READY, THIS IS INFORMATION WE NEED.
AND THEN, THEN THERE'D BE FOLLOW UP WHERE WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO DO IT NOW, WE'LL DO IT TWO WEEKS FROM NOW, OR THREE WEEKS FROM NOW.
THEN HOLLY, UM, COULD BASICALLY CO COORDINATE, UM, THE SCHEDULING
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BASED ON, UH, WHAT WE AS A GROUP YOU DECIDE.BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART, UH, YOU KNOW, I KEEP SENDING ITEM, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS, AND THEN NOBODY, MOST OF THE TIME WE DON'T GET RESPONSES.
SO IT'S, IT IS, SO THE THING IS, I MAY THINK THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA AND I MAY BE TELLING PEOPLE TO SHOW UP AND THEN THEY'RE EMBARRASSED AND WE'RE EMBARRASSED.
AND SO, SO I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, IF WE WOULD AGREE THAT EVERY AGENDA ITEM THAT WE WANT IS ON THE AGENDA, JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF DECIDING AS A GROUP, UH, HOW WE'RE GONNA HANDLE EACH REQUEST.
AND, UM, AND THAT'S, AND WHO AND WHERE DOES THAT AGENDA GO? THAT AGENDA.
SO NOW THAT AGENDA'S PUBLIC, IT WOULD BE YOU, WELL, EVERYTHING, ANYTHING PUBLIC, OR IF IT'S EXECUTIVE, IF IT'S AN EXECUTIVE, IF AN, WE HAVEN'T DONE THE HOMEWORK.
IF WE HAVEN'T, IF WE'RE NOT READY TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, I FEEL LIKE WE'RE SENDING OUT A FALSE MESSAGE THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE THIS DISCUSSION AND WE'RE READY.
WE DON'T, WE HAVEN'T DONE OUR PROPER HOMEWORK, OUR RESEARCH, ANYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.
SO I GUESS NO, BECAUSE WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO, WHOEVER'S PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA SHOULD SUPPLY THE BACK.
WE WERE GONNA SAY, THIS SHOULD SUPPLY WHATEVER THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION IS TO, TO SAY WHY THIS IS GOING ON THE AGENDA AND WHAT DOCUMENTS ARE AVAILABLE.
WE SHOULDN'T HAVE SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, AND THEN WE'RE SCRAMBLING EACH INDIVIDUALLY.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT POINT.
BUT THEN, AND THAT'S HOW HOLLY CAN ALSO HELP.
BECAUSE IF WE, IF HOLLY IS COPYING ALL THE BACKUP INFORMATION FROM ANY EMAIL SOMEBODY SENDS ABOUT AN ITEM SHE CAN GET, MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S ALL GATHERED TOGETHER.
LET, LEMME JUST, I I I WAS JUST BREATHING
ANYWAY, UM, THIS IS THE PROBLEM THOUGH.
PEOPLE, OR PEOPLE, WE HAVE NOT BEEN GREAT ABOUT RESPONDING TO PAUL'S REQUESTS.
SOMETIMES WE DO, SOMETIMES WE DON'T.
AND IF OUR RULE IS, WELL, THREE PEOPLE HAVE TO PUT IT ON AND NO ONE'S RESPONDING, THEN HOLLY DOESN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
NONE OF US KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO THEN THERE'S NOTHING ON THE AGENDA BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GIVEN THEM ENOUGH RESPONSE.
THAT'S WHY I LIKE THE IDEA OF GETTING AN ALERT, A TEXT ALERT FROM WHOEVER IT IS SAYING, THESE ARE THE ITEMS FREE TO REVIEW.
GO LOOK AT THE EMAIL AS SOON AS YOU HAVE A CHANCE.
OBVIOUSLY YOU MIGHT BE IN A MEETING, WHATEVER, BUT WITHIN A CERTAIN TIMEFRAME YOU CAN GO LOOK AT WHAT'S PROPOSED FOR THE AGENDA AND SAY, YAY OR NAY AGENDA.
WHAT, WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT HAS HAPPENED ANY NUMBER OF TIMES IS THAT WHEN PAUL, A FEW TIMES HAS PUT, SAID, I WANT THIS ON THE AGENDA.
I'VE SAID, CAN WE HAVE THE BACKUP AND THAT? AND THEN I DON'T GET THAT RESPONSE.
AND THEN LO AND BEHOLD, IT'S ON THE AGENDA.
BACKUP SHOULD BE NOT ONLY THE, THIS IS WORK TO TOGETHER.
THIS IS HOW WE CAN WORK TOGETHER MM-HMM
UM, WHICH IS TO AUTOMATICALLY, AND WITH THE HELP OF, OF HOLLY WHO IS, AND KRISTA TOO MAKE SHE'S FORWARDING ANY MATERIALS THAT YOU HAVE THAT GO ALONG WITH THE ITEM.
'CAUSE YOU'RE LIKE, YOU'RE HERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND SO OFTEN YOU GET EMAILS MM-HMM
THAT WE DON'T SEE, AND THE EMAILS MIGHT HAVE BACKUP, BUT WE DON'T SEE THEM.
SO THAT'S WHERE NO, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT SAYING, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.
BUT THAT'S WHERE AS, UM, COUNCILWOMAN HABER POINTED OUT, KRISTA CAN BE HELPFUL BECAUSE SHE CAN THEN HELP WITH GETTING THAT BACKUP TO HOLLY.
BUT I THINK IT IS HOLLY'S AND HOLLY CAN COORDINATE WITH LISA SO THAT SHE IS AWARE JUST AS SHE WOULD LIKE TO BE.
SO THAT REGULAR MEETING ON, YOU KNOW, THE, THE, AND THAT COMMUNICATION WE DO, YOU KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS SOMETIMES I'M NOT THINKING OF ALL THE BACKUP THAT IS THAT SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, I MAY NOT ANTICIPATE WHAT SOME OF THE BACKUP INFORMATION IS THAT THAT, THAT YOU WANT.
SO LET'S SAY FOR EXAMPLE, FOR THE PAST COUPLE YEARS, I'VE ADVOCATED THAT IF THERE'S A SIDEWALK THAT'S CRACKED THAT THE TOWN MAINTAIN, YOU KNOW, MAINTAINED THE SIDEWALKS AS WE USED TO DO FOR, FOR DECADES, AND YOU KNOW, WE SAID WE WERE GONNA HAVE A POLICY.
WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS AND YOU KNOW, AND WE KEEP FORGETTING ABOUT IT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT IT.
WE THINK THAT WHAT WOULD BE THE COST? NO, BUT, BUT I'M SAYING WE, WE, WE, WE, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION.
WE HAVE DISCUSSION SPECIFIC TO THAT.
WE'VE HAD THE DISCUSSION AND THERE WERE SOME IDEAS PROPOSED, BUT THOSE HAVE TO BE ACTED ON BEFORE
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WE CAN THEN CIRCLE BACK AROUND.BUT, BUT YOU, IF I, IT'S NOT GONNA COME UP JUST TO HAVE TALK TO JAW BONE BACK.
ALL I'M ASKING IS THAT IF I HAVE AN IDEA, OR IF ANYBODY ON THE BOARD HAS AN IDEA, NOT TO PUT IT, WHEN I'M SAYING PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA, I'M SAYING PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR THE PURPOSES OF DECIDING WHETHER WE'RE GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION.
SO LET'S SAY I TALK ABOUT THE, I WANNA PUT, I TELL HOLLY, PUT UP THE SIDEWALK, UH, MAINTENANCE IDEA.
SO THEN HOLLY WOULD SAY, SIDEWALK MAINTENANCE THEN, BUT WE NEED BACK, WE NEED TO LEAVE BACK UP, CHRIS.
BUT THEN, THEN IT GOES ON THE, IT GOES ON THE AGENDA, UM, THE FOLLOWING WEEK, THEN WE HAVE THE WORK SESSION, THEN FRANCIS WILL SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? I WANNA KNOW WHAT THE COST IS.
YOU NOT, YOU'RE NOT TELLING ME THE COST.
HE'LL SAY, WHAT'S THE COST? AND I'LL SAY, I DON'T KNOW.
UM, UH, AND THEN SOMEBODY ELSE WILL SAY, UH, WHAT DO OTHER COMMUNITIES DO? SO THEN YOU COULD, THEN AT THE WORK SESSION, THEN WE COULD HAVE A VERY QUICK DISCUSSION AS TO THE BACKUP THAT WE NEED.
BUT WE, WE HAVE, BUT I JUST SAY THIS NO, REALLY QUICKLY, BUT YOU JUST DESCRIBED EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE REQUESTING.
SO FOR YOU TO SAY, I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT THE BOARD MEMBERS WILL BE LOOKING FOR.
IT'S ANYTHING THAT YOU'LL BE LOOKING FOR TO MAKE A SOUND DECISION.
IF WE WANNA DO CRACKS, AND IF WE WANNA DO FIX THE CRACKS AND HAVE THAT TYPE OF PROGRAM, YOU'RE GONNA WANNA KNOW THE COST.
YOU'RE GONNA KNOW WHAT'S THE MANPOWER.
YOU'RE GONNA WANNA KNOW ALL THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA ASK.
SO I GUESS I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED FOR YOU TO SAY WHY YOU WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT WE WOULD ASK THE SAME INFORMATION YOU WOULD NEED TO MAKE A SOUND DECISION, THE SAME DECISION, THE SAME INFORMATION YOU WOULD NEED TO EXPLAIN TO THE CONSTITUENTS OF WHY YOU MADE THAT DECISION.
SO IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE, LIKE A SIDEWALK CRACK AND YOU WANNA DO THAT, JUST GIVE THEM A PROPOSAL.
I'VE, I'VE SURVEYED KRISTA, WHOEVER MY OFFICE HAS SURVEYED FIVE DIFFERENT MUNICIPAL MUNICIPALITIES.
UM, THE COST IS THIS COST IS THIS EACH YEAR, WHATEVER, THAT'S A BACKUP.
THAT'S JUST THE COMMON SENSE, THOUGH.
BUT, BUT THE THING IS, ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT, UM, I WANT SORT OF LIKE MO YOU KNOW, MOVE THINGS ALONG TERMS, BUT THAT DOESN'T, BUT BUT THAT'S PART OF THE PROCESS.
THAT'S ONLY THINGS ARE STILL ON THE LIST.
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU HAVE, YOU VERY COMMONLY, SOMEBODY WRITES TO YOU, YOU WRITE BACK TO THEM SAYING YOU AGREE WITH THEM.
THE BOARD MEETS EVERY TUESDAY FOR WORK SESSIONS.
RIGHT? NOW, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE SOMETHING THAT GOES ON THE AGENDA JUST BECAUSE YOU AGREED WITH THEM? AND IT'S A TOPIC.
BECAUSE THAT'S WHY SOMETIMES YOUR EMAILS GET IGNORED BECAUSE YOU'RE TELLING EVERYBODY THAT THERE'S A WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SHOW UP AND, AND THAT'S NOT HOW WE CAN ACTUALLY GOVERN.
WE USED TO, BUT ACTUALLY, IF WE DON'T WEIGH IN YES OR NO, THEN IT JUST LIES THERE.
SO WE HAVE TO SAY, OH, I AGREE WITH THAT, OR I DON'T AGREE WITH IT.
WE HAVE TO SAY SOMETHING TO RESPOND, BUT I CAN'T SAY I AGREE OR DISAGREE WITH SOMETHING UNLESS I KNOW THE BACKGROUND OR THE FACTS REGARDING IT.
WE'VE BEEN AT MEETINGS AND YOU'VE BEEN HERE AS WELL, OF COURSE, WHERE SOMETHING'S ON THE AGENDA.
WE SAY, WHO PUT THIS ON THE AGENDA? AND NOBODY PUT IT ON.
YOU PUT IT ON THE AGENDA, BUT YOU FORGOT THAT YOU PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
I MEAN, THAT'S HOW LITTLE INFORMATION THERE IS.
THAT'S, AND THIS IS WHAT, AND, AND AS FAR AS RESPONSE, YOU KNOW, THE FRUSTRATION OF RESPONDING, SAYING, CAN WE HAVE THIS INFORMATION, THIS INFORMATION, THIS INFORMATION, AND THEN NOT GETTING IT AND HAVING IT GO ON THE, THE AGENDA, BUT THE NEW HOMEWORK ANYWAY.
SO IF YOU WANNA PROPOSE SOMETHING TO US, JUST AS WE PROPOSE STUFF, WE'LL SAY, HERE'S WHAT'S GONNA COST.
THIS IS WHAT THE OUTLINE'S GOING TO BE.
WHY CAN'T YOU DO THAT BEFORE YOU, BEFORE YOU REQUEST, HEY, HEY, COUNCIL MEMBERS, HERE'S A PROPOSAL THAT I RECEIVED FROM CONSTITUENT HABER, CONSTITUENT HABER.
AND THEN YOU GIVE ALL THE, ALL THE REC ALL THE RECOMMENDATION, AND THEN YOU GET THE BACKUP THAT SUPPORTS THE RECOMMENDATION.
YEAH, BUT WHY CAN'T YOU, WHY CAN'T YOU DO THAT BEFORE? IT JUST GIVES US SOMETHING TO LOOK AT, SOMETHING TO START THE DISCUSSION.
BUT ALL I'M JUST SAYING IS I STILL FEEL THAT IF SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LIKE SO MANY THINGS THAT ARE BACKLOGGED, AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UM, IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR ME IF BASICALLY WE PUT SOMETHING ON THE GENTLEMAN, THE BOARD BRIEFLY SAYS, THIS IS THE BACKUP INFORMATION, UH, WE NEED, BECAUSE I CAN'T READ EVERYBODY'S MIND.
IT'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, BUT PAUL, YOU COULD START WITH SOMETHING AND THEN WE CAN RESPOND AND SAY, THIS IS ENOUGH.
WE NEED MORE, BUT WE NEED SOMETHING.
NO, I, I, I, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY FOR TWO YEARS AND WE DON'T HAVE IT.
AND THE THING IS, WE HIRED A FIRM AND WE, WE BASICALLY, UM, WE, WE BASICALLY HAVE DONE NOTHING ON IT.
PEOPLE ARE COMPLAINING, YOU KNOW, WHERE IS A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY? WHERE IS A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY? WHERE'S A SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY? SO IF I PUT ON THE GENDER SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, IT'S NOT TO, UM, CRITICIZE ANYBODY.
IT'S BASICALLY JUST TO JOG EVERYBODY'S MEMORY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING OUTSTANDING.
SO THEN YOU SIT, SAY, FOLLOW UP.
WE DON'T HAVE HAVE TO HAVE THE PARKING LOT BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER PRIORITIES EVERY TIME YOU RAISE SOME OTHER ISSUE.
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HAS A DRAFT THAT HE IS REVIEWING, BUT HE IS ALSO DOING X NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS, WHICH SHORT STAFF.RIGHT? SO I GUESS WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS PRIORITIZE.
WHEN YOU TALKING ABOUT INCORPORATION, NON INCORPORATION.
WELL, HE COULD STEP AWAY FROM THAT AND WORK ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY.
THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WE COULD POSSIBLY GET.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT, BUT, BUT I, I'M SAYING IF, LET'S SAY THE SOCIAL MEDIA POLICY, LET'S SAY WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA AND WE SAY SIX MONTHS FROM, WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT TILL, UH, FEBRUARY OF 2025.
UM, YOU KNOW, UNTIL FEBRUARY 20TH, 2025, YOU KNOW, WE WERE TALKING OVER A YEAR AGO THAT WE WANTED TO DO DEPARTMENT EVALUATIONS WITH THE, WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
WE HAVEN'T DONE IT IN TWO YEARS.
WE NO, WE, WE, NO, WE HAVEN'T DONE IT.
THE REASON WHY WE HAVEN'T DONE IT IS BECAUSE WE ARE WAITING FOR OUR HR PERSON TO COME.
AND NOW THAT HE, HE'S HERE, NOW HE'S WORKING ON THAT TO GET US READY TO GO.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S AN AGENDA ITEM.
SO, BUT I THINK YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE A TICKLER.
I WANT A TICKLER, A PARKING LOT.
JUST PUT A PARKING LOT TOGETHER.
JUST PUT A, A PARKING LOT TOGETHER.
IT'S A LIST OF STUFF THAT YOU PUT IN THAT'S OUTSTANDING.
THIS RIGHT HERE IS CONSIDERED A PARKING LOT.
THIS THE STUFF THAT WE HAVE TO DO.
SO PAUL IS SOMETIMES THESE GET, GET KICKED, THE CAN GETS KICKED DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO BEFORE, A HIGHER PRIORITY.
AND, AND, AND YOU KNOW, THERE, LOOK, I KNOW THAT YOU CARE, RIGHT? AND ANYONE WHO REACHES OUT TO YOU, IT GETS YOUR HEART BEATING AND YOU WANNA HELP.
SO, AND I WILL AGREE WITH THAT.
AND, AND, AND THAT, THAT, BUT THAT SOMETIMES DIVERTS US BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS PERSON WANTS THIS AND THAT PER, SO WE PUT THEM ON, WHICH THEN PUSHES THESE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE ON THE LIST IS NOT OF EQUAL WEIGHT.
WE HAVE TO, WE REALLY TO, THAT'S WHY, THAT'S WHY MY SUGGESTION I THINK WAS A REALLY EXCELLENT ONE BECAUSE I, MY ONE, THE, THE SUGGESTION THINK IS EXCELLENT TO TRY TO FIGURE, THE EXCELLENT SUGGESTION, I THINK IS THAT ANY ANYBODY THAT, IF A BOARD MEMBER WANTS TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF, UM, ASKING FOR A DISCUSSION MM-HMM
UM, YOU KNOW, THEN, THEN THE BOARD COULD SAY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS REALLY NOT A PRIORITY RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE A LOT OF OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO ACTUALLY, WHAT WE DO DO THAT SOMETIMES, AND I'M JUST GONNA SAY THIS AND WE SAY IT CALMLY, YOU GET VERY UPSET WHEN WE DON'T ALWAYS AGREE THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY OR SOMETHING WE SHOULD DISCUSS.
AND THEN YOU PUT IT ON THE NEXT AGENDA AND THE NEXT AGENDA.
SO, AND THE NEXT, SO I'M A PAIN IN THE NECK.
SO, SO YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO PRIORITIZE IN YOUR OWN MIND AS THE SUPERVISOR WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, PART OF YOUR ROLE TO DO THAT.
BUT YOU KNOW, LIKE, I REMEMBER LIKE A COUPLE YEARS AGO ON A TROUBLESOME BOOK, YOU KNOW, WE WERE GOING TO, UH, UH, WORK OUT SOMETHING WITH THE PARKING LOT AREA THAT THE TOWN OWNS.
THERE'S PROPERTY ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
AND UM, AND BASICALLY WE WERE SAYING, OH, WE WERE GOING TO WORK OUT SOMETHING WHERE WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER, YOU KNOW, THE PARKING LOT.
AND THEN, AND THEN BECAUSE, BECAUSE BASICALLY THERE'S A TOWN PARKING LOT THAT ONLY IS BEING USED BY THE, UH, BY THE RESIDENTS.
AND THEN WE THOUGHT WE'D BE ABLE TO WORK OUT A DEAL WHERE WE COULD HAVE, UM, OR WE COULD WHERE THEY WOULD GIVE US SOME LAND THAT WE, AND, AND WE COULD RESOLVE THE TROUBLESOME BOOK, YOU KNOW, PROBLEMS. SO, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT AT LEAST, WHAT IS IT, TWO, THREE YEARS AGO.
RIGHT? BUT THAT'S PART OF A NEGOTIATION.
THERE'S ANOTHER PARTY THAT, BUT I, RIGHT.
I DON'T KNOW THE FACT THAT YOU WANT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT NO, BUT THEY WERE, THEY OFFERED, THEY, THEY LAWYERS, THEY OFFERED IT.
JOE, JOE, THEY WERE LET HIM CONTACT JOE TOMORROW.
THEY OFFERED, BECAUSE JOE DOESN'T RECALL IT.
SO NOT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, SO WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T YOU JUST RESEND IT TO HIM? YOU HAVE IT.
THERE WAS A, OH, THIS IS, OH, LET'S GO ON TO THE NEXT TOPIC.
GET THE LAWYER TO TELL JOE, HEY, WE, WE AGREE WITH YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU THAT LETTER.
NO, AND THEN WE BASICALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROCESS, NOT SPECIFIC EXAMPLES.
LET'S TALK ABOUT PROCESS AND IT'S DETAILS.
AND IT'S DEALING WITH THE DETAILS OF IT.
IT SOUNDS GREAT, RIGHT? WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT NOTHING HAPPENED.
WELL, THINGS HAVE HAPPENED, AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ENCOURAGED YET APPROPRIATELY, UM, TO ACTUALLY COME TO SOME CONCLUSION ON THAT.
IT'S STILL BEING USED FOR A PRIVATE PURPOSE.
UM, AND, BUT YET THE PEOPLE THERE ARE SUFFERING BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE PARKING.
THEY HAVE TO RELY ON THE TOWN LAND.
UM, NOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY HAD
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NEW ATTORNEY, THE FIRST ATTORNEY THEY HAD WAS, WAS ABSURD.AND YOU KNOW, THEN THEY, I UNDERSTAND THEY GOT A, A NEW ATTORNEY WHO, YOU KNOW, WAS ACTUALLY REASONABLE.
UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD FOLLOW UP AND SEE WHERE THAT IS.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING, BUT A LOT OF THIS IS JUST PAUL GIVE US A CALL, RIGHT?
IF YOU WANT, YEAH, IMAGINE THAT.
IF YOU WANT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, GIVE US A CALL AND SAY, THIS IS WHY I THINK THIS SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA, AS OPPOSED TO LET'S PUT ON ANYTHING I WANT ON THE AGENDA ON TUESDAY, AND THEN LET'S DISCUSS IT FOR THE FIRST TIME.
YOU WANT PAUL TO HAVE FOUR SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS, OR YOU WANT, HOW YOU MEAN? I'M JUST LIKE, YOU CAN'T HAVE FOUR, YOU CAN'T HAVE MATT, ALL OF THEM.
BUT YOU KNOW, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, WE TALK, RIGHT? WE TEXT TALKING.
WELL, WE TEXT HERE TOO, AND YOU DON'T TEXT BACK.
YOU DON'T, YOU'RE NOT A TEXTER.
AND I'M NOT A BIG FAN OF TEXT.
WELL, AT LEAST WE CAN SAY QUICKLY, YAY OR NAY SOME THINGS, RIGHT? OKAY, WELL, NO.
WHAT, OKAY, SO WHAT, I'M SORRY.
NO, WHAT WAS WRONG WITH THE PROCESS? WE HAD WHERE ON THURSDAY PEOPLE WOULD PUT IN WHATEVER AGENDA ITEMS THEY WANT.
THE, UM, THE, UM, UH, WORK SESSION WOULD START TO GET A, YOU KNOW, SOME KIND OF FORMULATION.
BUT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THREE PEOPLE TO EVEN AGREE TO PUT THE TOPIC ON, WHAT'S THE CHANCES OF YOU GETTING THREE PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR? SO, I MEAN, ARE WE JUST GONNA DO THINGS WITH SHOW, OR ARE WE GONNA ACTUALLY TRY TO GOVERN, BUT THREE PEOPLE AREN'T WEIGHING IN AS TO WHETHER THEY WANT IT OR NOT.
THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING LATELY.
THREE PEOPLE JUST HAVEN'T BEEN RESPONDING.
TO SAY NO TO SAY, ARE WE ASSUMING IT'S ON? UNLESS YOU, IF I WANTED SOMETHING, SOMETHING TO BE ON, YEAH.
I WOULD CALL EACH ONE OF YOU INDIVIDUAL.
WELL, RIGHT, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO, RIGHT? IF SOMETHING WAS SO IMPORTANT.
BUT THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF, UM, BRADFORD GONZALEZ, SUSMAN, AND YOU'D BE SURE YOU ARE SURE TO COPY THE RESIDENT ON SAYING, THIS TO ME IS A HIGH PRIORITY.
THAT DOESN'T, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S PROBLEM MATTER FOR US UP KNOWING THAT THE REST OF US ARE GOING TO NOW LOOK AT, OKAY, WHAT ARE THE, WHAT ARE THE DETAILS, WHAT ARE THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES? AND ALL OF THAT, FRANKLY TAKES TIME.
THAT SHOULD BE DONE BY THE PERSON PROPOS IT.
AND THEN YOU SET AN EXPECT, YOU SET AN EXPECTATION FOR THE RESIDENT WHO'S ON THAT EMAIL THINKING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IT RIGHT NOW.
WE'RE WORKING RIGHT THEN AND THERE, AND WE'RE NOT, BECAUSE WE, WE NEED TO DO RESEARCH.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE GIVE IT TO THE APPROPRIATE PERSON.
WE DO THE SAME THING WITH STAFF.
HOW MANY EMAILS DID EACH GET? I, I KNOW, I KNOW.
SO WHEN YOU RESPOND TO A CONSTITUENT, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T, I DON'T, WHEN YOU RESPOND TO A CONSTITUENT, CAN YOU SAY, UH, THIS SOUNDS INTERESTING.
WE'LL TAKE IT UP WITH THE WHOLE TOWN BOARD AND LET KNOW.
I JUST SAY THAT, JUST THAT AND NOT SAY I AGREE WITH NO, YOU'RE NOT.
HOW ABOUT SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS DOESN'T COMPLY WITH STATE LAW.
HOW ABOUT ACTUALLY GETTING BACK TO THAT? WELL, THAT'S THE END RESULT.
IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN DO.
I JUST, I TELL, I TELL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I'D SAY, YOU GOTTA TO SEND ME THAT EITHER.
NO, I'D SAY 90% OF THE CONSTITUENT COMPLAINTS I GET GET RESOLVED TO PEOPLE'S SATISFACTION OVER 90%, I'D SAY.
SO THERE'S, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, I SEE OVER HERE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ITEMS WAS THE FOLLOW UP WITH THE TENNIS BUBBLE REQUEST FOR SUPPORT, TIME FOR AN EXEMPTION.
NOW, ONE OF THE CONCERN, BUT, BUT THEY DIDN'T MAKE THAT REQUEST.
RIGHT? BUT ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT I HAVE IS THEY MADE A PRESENTATION, AND IF, UM, THEY DON'T GET THE EXEMPTION WITH TARIFFS AND EVERYTHING, WE COULD LOSE SPORTS TIME.
BUT ALL BUT LET, LET, IF WE'RE GONNA BE SPECIFIC ABOUT THAT, GARRETT BROUGHT THAT UP, NOT FOUR TIME NUMBER ONE, AND HE BROUGHT THAT UP AS A POSSIBILITY, NUMBER TWO, NUMBER THREE, UNTIL THE, UM, UNTIL THE DRAWINGS ARE DONE AND THEY'RE SUBMITTED, THAT THEN THAT IS A DISCUSSION TO HAVE.
HE JUST THREW THAT OUT AS A FUTURE THING.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA RESOLVE THIS.
NOW, THERE'S NO REASON TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH JOUR, WITH THE DISPATCH ON IT, BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANYTHING TO WELL, YOU SEE THAT, BUT YOU SEE, WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
EXACTLY WHAT I WANTED, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW I BROUGHT UP, UH, THE BUBBLE, AND THEN THE BOARD MADE VERY, UH, LEGITIMATE POINTS WHY WE MAY NOT BE READY TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION.
SO THEN YOU COULD SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, LET'S, BUT THAT WAS A DISCUSSION WE HAD AT THE TIME.
BUT I'M SAYING, BUT THEN YOU COULD BE, I'M, I'M NOT CRITICAL, I'M JUST SAYING THOUSAND RIGHT NOW.
YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT UP SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I HAVE CONCERNS
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ABOUT.YOU CAME UP WITH AN EXPLANATION.
AND THEN WHAT I WOULD'VE LIKED IS US TO SAY, OKAY, WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS BACK ON THE AGENDA THREE MONTHS FROM NOW.
AND THEN, AND THEN WE KNOW THREE MONTHS FROM NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA GET AN UPDATE.
SO IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T, WE DON'T GET DISTRACTED AND WE DON'T FORGET ABOUT IT.
SO, SO, AND IF WE DID THAT, EVEN WITH THE CANNABIS THE WAY GO ON IN THREE MONTHS FROM NOW, I AM GOING TO REMEMBER THAT OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR, WHO'S THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE CHIEF OF THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AFFECTED BY THAT BUBBLE, HAVE BOTH COME OUT OPPOSED TO THAT VARIANCE.
NOW YOU'RE GOING TO COME OUT AND SAY, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE IT ANYWAY, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA LOSE THE BUBBLE.
I CAN TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, LET'S MAKE IT SHORT AND SWEET.
IF BOTH THE FIRE MARSHAL AND THE FIRE CHIEF OF THE HARTSDALE FIRE DEPARTMENT SAY THAT THEY DON'T NOT SUPPORT SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA LIMIT THE NUMBER OF SPRINKLER, THE SPRINKLERS THAT ARE GOING IN THERE.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO ACTUALLY ASK THE STATE LEGISLATORS, PLEASE WAIVE THE SPRINKLER REQUIREMENT.
INSTEAD, THEY'RE DOING A WORKAROUND AND SAYING, LET'S EXTEND THE TEMPORARY, UH, USE SIX MONTHS TO EIGHT MONTHS OR NINE MONTHS.
AND THEREFORE IT DOESN'T NEED A SPRINKLER SYSTEM, BUT THAT YOU'RE NOW PLAYING WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES.
RIGHT? SO I'M TELLING YOU, NOW, YOU CAN KEEP PUTTING THAT ON THE AGENDA, BUT UNLESS THOSE TWO PEOPLE DECIDE, HEY, MAYBE THIS COULD WORK.
I'M NOT SUPPORTING IT, BUT YOU'RE GONNA KEEP PUTTING IT ON, PUTTING ON, WE'RE NOT EVEN THERE YET.
THEY'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSIONS, RIGHT.
WE'RE LOOKING, WE'RE HAVING, WE HAVE TO SEE THE PLANS.
THEY'RE HAVING THE DISCUSSIONS, THEY'RE HAVING DISCUSSIONS WITH PARKS, RIGHT? SO MAYBE THEY COULD LIVE WITH SIX MONTHS AND THEN THEY DON'T NEED THE SPRINKLERS, BUT AS SOON AS THEY GO OVER SIX MONTHS, THEY HAVE TO GO TO THE STATE LEGISLATORS.
AND THOSE STATE LEGISLATORS ARE GOING TO KNOW THAT THIS IS A WORKAROUND OF, OF A SAFETY FEATURE.
I APPRECIATE THEY CAN'T GO TO THE STATE LEGISLATORS SAYS, WAIVE THE SPRINKLER, UH, REQUIREMENT IN A BUBBLE, WHICH IS PUBLIC ASSEMBLY.
BUT IF NO STATE LEGISLATOR WILL DO THAT, SO INSTEAD THEY WANT TO EXTEND SIX MONTHS FEBRUARY, WHERE YOU DON'T NEED IT TO MAYBE ASK THEM TO DO EIGHT MONTHS OR NINE MONTHS.
BUT THEY'RE NOT STUPID STATE LEGISLATORS.
I CAN'T SEE GOING ALONG WITH THIS.
BUT WE CAN SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS.
AND FRANKLY, THEY NEVER RAISED THIS ISSUE WHEN THEY WERE ASKING US FOR THE BUBBLE NEVER RAISED, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY WHO KNEW THIS WAS, WAS GOING TO OCCUR UNTIL WE HEARD ABOUT IT OUT.
AND I, I, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, MY, MY UNDERSTANDING AND AND NOT OBJECTING TO ANYTHING YOU SAID WAS THAT, THAT GARRETT THREW IT OUT THERE, BUT IT WAS NOT A REQUEST OF SUPPORT TIME.
AND THEY, AND WE PROBABLY NEED TALK JUST ATION.
I KNOW, I KNOW THAT THEY WANTED IT, AND GARRETT ACTUALLY OUTED THEM BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH YOU CAN KEEP THAT FINE, YOU KNOW, QUIET.
SO IF THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE ULTIMATELY ASKING FOR, DON'T MISLEAD US GOING DOWN THE LINE AS IF THAT'S NOT GONNA BE ASKED FOR.
THEN AFTER WE DO EVEN MORE THINGS FOR THEM, FAIR ENOUGH, ENOUGH, NOW THEY'LL COME OUT TO SAY IT.
LET'S GET THE, YOU KNOW, SO WE GOT IT OUT IN THE OPEN.
BUT, BUT THAT'S HEALTHY BECAUSE BASICALLY WE HAD A PUBLIC DISCUSSION.
RIGHT? NOW YOU ARTICULATED IN A PUBLIC FORUM YOUR CONCERNS.
UM, AND, AND MY FAILING IS THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF PUTTING THINGS ON THE AGENDA FOR, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT LOOKING FOR PEOPLE TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING.
SO, AND I'M LOOKING FOR FOLLOW UP.
AND IF, IF THERE'S THINGS THAT I WANT AND YOU THINK THAT IT'S, I HAVEN'T DONE MY HOMEWORK AND YOU SAY IT, THEN I'LL GO BACK AND I'LL, I'LL DO A BETTER JOB.
BECAUSE GOVERNMENT BASICALLY ISN'T PERFECT.
AND YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, WE ALL COULD LEARN.
AND THE THING IS, WHEN WE HAVE OPEN DISCUSSIONS, UM, THEN WE GET ALSO INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
SO THERE COULD BE SOMEBODY, UM, WHO'S WATCHING IT ON TV AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, FRANCIS MADE A REALLY GOOD POINT.
I NOW, YOU KNOW, I HAVE SIMILAR CONCERNS THAT THEY COULD SAY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY HE IS WRONG.
CAN WE, CAN WE BACK UP A SECOND? I THINK THE IDEA OF PUTTING IT ON THE AGENDA, TO PUT ON THE AGENDA THEN MAKES SO MUCH THIS BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING THIS DISCUSSION.
AND IN THE CONTEXT OF THAT, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT YOU BROUGHT UP AND, AND FRANCIS ADDRE ADDRESSED SOMETHING THAT HE FEELS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO THAT HAPPENED, AND THAT HAPPENED NOW IN THE CONTEXT OF EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WE CAN'T GO THROUGH EVERY SINGLE MEETING HAVING LENGTHY DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT MAY BE GOING ON THE AGENDA AND THEN GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
BECAUSE AS IT IS, WE DON'T GET OUT OF, OF EXECUTIVE SESSION OFF UNTIL 10 OR SO AT NIGHT.
SO I, I DON'T REALLY WANNA EXTEND THAT TO MIDNIGHT.
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SO I THINK HAVING A CLEANER PROCESS, SUCH AS OUR COUNCIL, WOMEN COMPATRIOTS RECOMMENDED WOULD BE THE, THE BOTH.UM, WHAT ABOUT LIMITING, UM, THE NUMBER OF REQUESTS TO SAY LIKE THREE OR, OR FOUR, YOU KNOW, REQUESTS A WEEK? SO THIS WAY, LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY I'M REALLY MAKING A DECISION.
WILL WE GOING TO SERVE, LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY, SO THEN THAT'S NOT URGENTS THREE OR THING, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THERE'S THREE OR FOUR THINGS THAT I REALLY WANT TO HAVE DISCUSSED, AND I, WE LIMITED, YOU KNOW, TO THAT IT'S NOT GONNA OVERWHELM, UH, THE, THE BOARD.
I'LL HAVE TO PRIORITIZE WHAT THREE THINGS I WANT, IF ANYBODY ELSE WANTS TO.
SO IF YOU WANNA LIMIT YOURSELF TO THREE THINGS TO PUT ON THE, THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
RIGHT? AND THEN, BUT IF EACH OF US HAS THREE THINGS, THEN THAT'SS 12, YOU KNOW, SO, BUT I'M SAYING ANYTHING YOU WANT ON THE AGENDA, ANYTHING YOU WANT ON THE AGENDA TOO, BUT ANYTHING YOU WANT ON THE AGENDA PLUS 12, I WOULD, I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT PUTTING ANY, ANY OF ELLEN HENDRICK'S THINGS ON WITH NO LIMITATION.
AND ANYTHING THAT GINA WANTS OR JOY OR FRANCIS WANTS, NO LIMITATION.
I WOULD BE THE ONLY ONE WHO WOULD LIMIT, UH, LIMIT MYSELF.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PRIORITIZE AND PUT THE THINGS THAT NEED, WE NEED TO HANDLE IMMEDIATELY ON AGENDA AND WORK ON IT.
THAT'S, YOU DON'T HAVE TO LIMIT YOURSELF.
NO ONE'S TRYING TO SILENCE YOU.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE APPROPRIATELY PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA AND WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ACT ON THEM.
RIGHT? I DON'T, I DON'T, I, I, I KEEP SAYING THIS, THIS WINDOW DRESSING THAT WE DO AND, AND I PUT THIS ON THERE AND, AND ALL THE EMAILS NOT FLYING AROUND.
NO ONE'S LISTENING OR NO ONE'S, WE CAN STOP DOING THAT.
SO IF WE'VE COME TO THE PRO, THE PROCESS, CAN YOU JUST REITERATE THE PROCESS AGAIN, FRANCIS? SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE WERE DOING IS FEEDING EVERYBODY, FEEDING TOPICS TO HOLLY.
HOLLY WOULD THEN SEE WHAT FITS AND WHAT DOESN'T FIT.
SOMETIMES WE HAVE AN ENORMOUS EXECUTIVE SESSION, SOMETIMES WE DON'T.
SO YOU COULD, YOU KNOW, BETTER SO YOU COULD EXPAND OR, OR, OR CONTRACT.
UM, BUT BY AT LEAST MONDAY, RIGHT? AT LEAST 24 HOURS OF ADVANCE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DISCUSS OR, OR DECIDE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT ACTUALLY CAN WE DISCUSS? BECAUSE SOME THINGS GET KICKED DOWN THE ROAD THAT ARE TRULY TIME SENSITIVE.
SO THERE'S TIME, BUT A WAY, THE WORD PRIORITY, BUT TIME SENSITIVE.
SO WE SHOULD, BY MONDAY, BECAUSE WORK SESSIONS ARE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THERE'S A BIT OF A, YOU KNOW, FAST TURNAROUND SOMETIMES ON SOME ISSUES, UM, UNLIKE THE T BOARD MEETING, THE, UM, AND BY MONDAY WE SHOULD SAY, OKAY, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD DO THIS, DO THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO BE GOING BACK FORTH HOW WE DO THAT.
HAVE, WHAT'S THE MECHANISM FOR THAT? WELL, SHE COULD SEND US, SHE CAN SEND US A DRAFT AND WE COULD RESPOND, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE THINK IS APPROPRIATE.
WHAT'S THE TIMEFRAME? SO WE, WE LISTEN, 'CAUSE THE CONCERN, THE CONCERN IS, AND IT'S BEEN SET UP OVER AND OVER AGAIN BECAUSE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE GET DISTRACT AND IT'S NOT DISTRACTION BECAUSE WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THINGS GOING ON OUTSIDE OF THE TOWN.
WE NEED TO HAVE A TIME TO SAY, OKAY, BY 12 O'CLOCK ON MONDAY AFTERNOON, EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE RESPONDED.
SO WE, SO HOLLY CAN HAVE PUBLISHED THE AGENDA, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC.
WE NEED TO HAVE THAT DEADLINE SO EVERYBODY CAN HAVE THAT DEADLINE.
BUT WHAT'S NOT HAPPENING NOW IS, WHAT I WOULD LIKE IS FOR HOLLY TO LOOK AND SEE IS THERE'S, IS THERE BACKGROUND TO DISCUSS THIS? RIGHT? SO WE'RE NOT GETTING AN AGENDA AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE AGENDA AND WHAT IS THIS? RIGHT? RIGHT.
WE SHOULD NOT GET THE TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND WHOEVER PUT IT ON THE AGENDA HAS GIVEN US NOTHING.
SO IF WE GOT NOTHING, IF WE'VE RECEIVED NOTHING, UH, IT JUST COME OFF AND THEN THE FOLLOWING WEEK, MAYBE THEY WILL HAVE SOMETHING.
I DO NOT LIKE TO COME TO A MEETING UNPREPARED.
I WORK, DO REALLY HARD AT TRYING TO BE PREPARED.
I CAN'T BE PREPARED FOR THE UNKNOWN.
SO THEN MY QUESTION, CAN I JUST ASK A REALLY QUICK QUESTION? SO MY QUESTION TO THAT IS, WITH THAT AGENDA ON THAT MONDAY'S AGENDA, IS THAT PUBLIC? NO.
FOR WORK SESSION? THE WORK SESSION, IT'S STILL INTERNAL.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANNA MISLEAD RESIDENTS TO THINK THAT'S THIS IS WHAT THE DISCUSSION'S GOING TO BE.
THEY PREPARE THEMSELVES TO, TO LISTEN TO THAT DISCUSSION.
AND IT'S TAKEN OFF THE AGENDA.
WE, AND WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE PAST IS WHEN PAUL WANTS SOMETHING, HE WILL INVITE THE PUBLIC, RIGHT.
WHETHER IT'S ON THE AGENDA OR NOT, HE WILL INVITE THEM ANYWAY.
AND NOW YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE THERE, HOW DO YOU NOT DISCUSS IT? THAT'S NOT IMPORTANT.
SO WE'RE SAYING WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ANYMORE.
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FOR SURE.THEN SAY THAT PAUL'S SAYING HE'S NOT GONNA DO THAT.
IF I MAY, CAN I, CAN I SUMMARIZE? SEE IF I, NO, I WAS ACTUALLY TALKING.
YEAH, I TRIED TO TALK BEFORE, BUT, OKAY.
SO IF HOLLY OR AND I, WE HAVE TO INCLUDE LISA ON ALL OF THESE, SHE HAS TO KNOW WHAT THE AGENDA IS BECAUSE SHE HAS TO KNOW WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO PREPARE IT.
AND, AND WHEN WE HAVE AN, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO BE MISLED MM-HMM
REGARDING, SHE GIVES A COPY OF THE FINAL AGENDA.
LIKE WE HAD THE THING THAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND.
WE DON'T NEED THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN.
WE NEED TO HAVE DESIGNATED JOBS.
HOLLY IS PREPARING THE AGENDAS.
I DON'T WANT THERE TO BE ANY CONFUSION ABOUT SHE'S CONVERSIONS PREPARING THE AGENDAS.
IF WE DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S SUPPORT TO PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA, WHY PUT IT ON THE AGENDA FOR SHOW? NO.
UNLESS, AND I SUMMARIZE, UNLESS, UNLESS IT'S REQUIRED THAT WE VOTE, SUCH AS FOR A SITE PLAN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, WE'RE REQUIRED TO VOTE.
BUT WHY PUT SOMETHING ON THE AGENDA? WE DON'T HAVE SUPPORT FOR IT.
SO I JUST ASK HOLLY NOT TO TEXT IF I MAY, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
SHE ALSO LOOKS TO SEE, DOES THIS LOOK, DOES THIS NEED BACKUP? SHE CAN ASK THAT QUESTION.
SHE PUTS IT TOGETHER FOR US BY MONDAY.
AND THEN HOLLY AND LISA, ONCE IT'S LOCKED DOWN, CAN HAVE A MEETING AND THEY CAN JUST DO A QUICK REVIEW SO THAT LISA IS WELL AWARE AND SHE KNOWS WHAT'S, BUT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT MEETING UNTIL IT'S FINAL.
SO I DON'T, MY CONCERN IS THAT THERE'S A, A, A, A DRAFT THAT GETS OUT THERE AND THEN IT'S NOT CORRECT.
SO, AND THEN THERE'S SOME PREPARATION THAT DOESN'T NEED TO BE DONE.
SO YOU GUYS SHOULD NOT BE MEETING RESPONDING.
YOU GUYS, SHOULDN'T WE PAST THAT? WE'RE PAST THAT POINT NOW.
SO THAT FRIDAY, 12 O'CLOCK OR WHENEVER THAT DEADLINE IS EMAIL, THAT'S WHEN, WHEN IT'S, WHEN IT'S FINAL.
WELL THEN YOU GUYS ARE GONNA MEET.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHEN THEY WOULD MEET.
FRIDAY'S THE FIRST DRAFT, RIGHT? FRIDAY.
BUT CAN YOU PLEASE JUST TEXT US? LOOK AT THIS.
OKAY, WELL, OKAY, THAT'S FINE.
SO TO GO BACK, SO WE'RE SUMMARIZING, WE GET EVERYTHING IN.
HOLLY LOOKS AT IT AND, AND WE REALLY TRY TO GET IT IN BEFORE FRIDAY AT NOON.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN WE WANNA FINALIZE IT SO SHE CAN LOOK AT IT AND SAY, THIS LOOKS LIKE IT NEEDS BACKUP.
DO WE, I I THINK THIS NEEDS BACKUP.
DOES IT NEED BACKUP? WHERE IS THE BACKUP? AND THEN WE CAN'T PUT IT ON, IF IT DOESN'T HAVE BACKUP, THAT GOES TO NOT ALL OF US.
THAT GOES THE PERSON WHO'S PROPOSING IT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
THAT'S WHAT I, WHAT'S ON THE AGENDA.
WE SHOULDN'T BE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO SCRAMBLE TO OUT.
SO WHOEVER IT IS, WHAT IS, WHERE'S THE BACKUP? BUT YOU KNOW, AT THE BACK I PULL, I NEED THE BACKUP, BUT COPY US ON IT SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S HAPPENING SO THAT WE KNOW THAT IT'S MOVING FORWARD FOR HOLLY TO COPY US WHEN SHE REQUESTS BACKUP FROM ANY OF US FOR ANY ITEM, JUST SO WE KNOW IT'S HAPPENING.
AND THEN WHAT'S OUR, HOW DO WE SAY CONSENSUS? WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN? BECAUSE THE PROBLEM IS ISN'T THE MONDAY, ISN'T THAT THE MONDAY AT 12TH? ISN'T THAT THE MONDAY AT 12TH? BECAUSE THAT 'CAUSE NOTHING SHOULD GO ON.
THAT SHOULD BE THE FINAL EVERYTHING.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WEEKEND THERE.
AND THEN WE WE'RE ONLY GIVING HER BASICALLY THREE, THREE HOURS END OF BY NOON TO MAKE SURE IT'S ALL DONE ON MONDAY MORNING.
SO WHAT SHE'S SUGGESTING IS, WHICH I AGREE, ANYTHING THAT'S FOR TUESDAY'S MEETING SHOULD GET TO HER ON FRIDAY.
AND THEN IF IT DOESN'T HAVE THE BACKUP, IT JUST NEVER MAKES IT.
AND BECAUSE WE SHOULD ACTUALLY BE PUBLISHING OUR AGENDA ACTUALLY THAT WE'RE DOING.
AND I DON'T, YES, WE'RE DOING 24 HOURS IN ADVANCE.
BUT YOU KNOW, IT'D BE NICE IF WE GOT IT OUT THERE, BUT WE HAVE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT'S MADE IT, WE HAVE TO KNOW THEN THAT.
SO BEFORE WE PUBLISH IT, I SHOULD EMAIL YOU GUYS.
WELL, JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS TO BACK UP.
RIGHT? AND YOU'RE CHECKING, RIGHT, DOES THIS, THIS LOOKS LIKE AN ITEM THAT THIS BACK UPAND AND WHAT NO, THAT'S OKAY.
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PUBLIC AS WELL, RIGHT? SO IF YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE TOPIC IS ABOUT, WHAT'S NEEDED TO RIGHT.MAKE A DECISION, THEN, THEN, THEN YOU NEED MORE FACULTY.
THE AVERAGE PERSON SHOULD KNOW, LIKE, WE'RE ALL IN THE WEEDS ON THIS STUFF, BUT THE AVERAGE PERSON SHOULD KNOW FROM WHATEVER IS PUT UP THERE.
I ALSO THINK THAT THE AGENDA SHOULD HAVE LIKE A RUN THAT WE SHOULD HAVE A RUN.
JOAN DID IT, YOU KNOW, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, A FEW YEARS AGO, UM, SHOULD HAVE A RUNNING LIST OF I OF ITEMS THAT, UH, HAVEN'T BEEN FINALIZED BECAUSE BASICALLY WE SHOULD, IT'S NOT THAT IT'S INTENTIONAL THAT WE'RE NOT FOLLOWING UP ON THINGS, BUT THERE'S THINGS THAT ARE FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS.
AND I FEEL THAT IF WE KEPT THE RUNNING LIST AND EVERY WEEK, EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SAY, THIS IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED ON JULY 1ST.
THIS IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED JULY 9TH.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, A YEAR FROM NOW, IF WE HAVEN'T RESOLVED IT, THEN WELL THAT'S WHAT THIS IS.
AND THIS IS JUST FOR OUR PURPOSE, RIGHT? NO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT EVEN AFTER WE HAVE A DISCUSSION MM-HMM
LIKE, SAY AGAIN WITH THE TENNIS BUBBLE, WE COULD SAY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE NOW HAVE TO WAIT FOR, YOU KNOW, WE, IT COULD SAY TENNIS, UH, UH, BUBBLE UH, DISCUSSION, UH, WAITING FOR THESE ACTION STEPS BEFORE IT'S DISCUSSED.
AND THEN WE LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA AND THEN WE SEE WHERE WE ARE ON IT.
YOU KNOW? UH, UM, YOU KNOW, A A YEAR FROM THAT IS THERE COULD BE LIKE THE CANNABIS, WE COULD SAY WE HAD A MEETING.
UH, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE, THAT'S JUST A RUNNING SPREADSHEET.
A RUNNING, A RUNNING SPREADSHEET OF EVERY ITEM WE DISCUSSED.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A PUBLIC DOCUMENT FOR THE AGENDA.
RIGHT? IF IT'S A SPREADSHEET, IT'S A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.
I MEAN, NO, IT CAN BE, IT CAN BE.
BUT WE'RE GOING TO PUBLISH IT EVERY ANYBODY FORWARD.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, I, I'M NOT AFRAID.
I'M NOT AFRAID OF LETTING THE PUBLIC FIND OUT WHAT OH NO, I DON'T MEAN THAT.
I JUST MEAN IT'S A LOT, IT'S A LOT OF PAPER.
IF YOU'RE DOING A RUNNING SPREADSHEET FOR A YEAR, THAT'S A LOT OF, BUT YOU KNOW, I WANT BASICALLY KEEP REMINDING OURSELVES, LET'S WORK ON THIS.
IF THERE IS AN EXCEL LIST THAT IS KIND TO, TO, AND WE HAVE A MEETING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IT REQUIRES X AMOUNT, WE LOOK AT X MONTH, HOLLY CAN THEN TAKE IT AND, YOU KNOW, AS A TICKLER AND LET US KNOW.
HAVE YOU GOTTEN THE INFORMATION ON THIS? NO.
I DON'T SEE THAT AS BEING PROBLEMATIC.
PARDON ME? EVERYTHING YOU WERE DISCUSSING, HERE ARE THE STEPS.
EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE HAS SAID IS RIGHT HERE.
THE TIME TO OUTLINE THE, THE, THE DEADLINE DATES.
THE DEADLINE DATES CAN ADD THE DEADLINE APPROVAL.
WE NEED TO PUT THE DEADLINE CHANGE COUNCIL TO BOARD.
AND THIS SHOULD BE VERY HELPFUL.
SO THERE'S TWO, THERE'S TWO THERE.
THERE WERE TWO DATES WE DISCUSSED.
RIGHT? FRIDAY APPROVAL SHOULD BE FRIDAY.
SO WE NEED TO PUT, THIS NEEDS TO BE UPDATED.
THAT WAS THE FIRST, I'M JUST SAYING IT JUST NEEDS TO BE UPDATED FIRST.
AND THAT FIRST DRAFT IS FRIDAY.
AND THE FINAL FINAL IS FIRST DRAFT SHOULD NOT BE ON FRIDAY.
WHAT? BECAUSE YOUR FI YOUR FINAL APPROVAL IS FRIDAY.
THAT'S THE LAST LOOK IS ON MONDAY.
AND WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION PART OF IT.
SEE WHERE IT SAYS SETTING VIA EMAIL.
THAT ELIMINATES WHAT YOU ASKED FOR.
YOU SAID WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE DISCUSSION.
I TOTALLY AGREE THAT, THAT'S WHY I SAID THE PRE-MEETING SHOULD BE VIA EMAIL.
AND AS FAR AS COUNCILMAN SHEAN SAID, HE SAID WE SHOULD BE PUBLISHING IT EARLIER.
THAT'S WHY I SAID MONDAY SHOULD BE THE DISTRIBUTION AND PUBLISHING.
SO AS FAR AS FINAL APPROVAL, EVERYTHING SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROPOSED, INITIALLY REVIEWED WITH THE BACKUP, UM, DISCUSSION VIA EMAIL.
AND THEN THE DRAFT SHOULD BE THURSDAY AND THEN THE FINAL APPROVAL SHOULD BE FRIDAY.
UH, I, I WAS SEEN A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
THE PROPOSED ADMISSION GOES TO HOLLY.
UM, AND SHE CHECKS TO SEE IF THE SCHEDULE PERMITS.
AND SHE ALSO, IF IT, IT'S A TICKLER AND SHE LOOKS TO HER LIKE THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR BACKUP, SHE WILL ASK THE PERSON WHO SUGGESTED ON THE AGENDA IF IT HAS BACKUP CORRECT.
SO IT DOESN'T WANT THE AGENDA TILL I HAVE, IF I GET A JEFF GRAPHIC, WHAT YOU JUST SAID A LITTLE BIT.
BEFORE SHE, BEFORE SHE SEES THAT THERE'S SPACE ON THE AGENDA, SHE LOOKS TO SEE IF THERE'S BACKUP.
BECAUSE THAT BACKUP MAY BE, HEY, THIS IS GONNA BE A MUCH BIGGER
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DISCUSSION THAN WE THINK.AND THEN YOU'LL KNOW IF THERE'S SPACE.
SO THAT'S WHY IT'S THE SECOND STEP.
AND THEN SO THAT, UM, RIGHT, THAT'S THE SECOND STEP.
AND THEN SHE LOOKS AT THE AGENDA.
SO IT'S A WORKING DRAFT UNTIL IT'S FINALIZED BASICALLY.
SO FRIDAY'S STILL WORKING DRAFT.
AND THEN MONDAY IS FRIDAY YOU PUT TOGETHER THE PACKAGE, WHATEVER, WHATEVER IT IS YOU HAVE, RIGHT.
WITH WHATEVER BACKUP YOU HAVE.
SO FRIDAY PACKAGE IS STILL AT NOON.
SO WHEN IS THE PACKAGE GONNA BE? SO HOLLY, TELL US WHEN, TELL US WHEN.
YOU CAN HAVE EVERY, SO WHEN DO YOU WANT TO, WHEN DO YOU THINK AFTER YOU GET ALL THE REQUESTS, YOU GO THROUGH IT, WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU CAN GET AN EMAIL TO US AND SAY, THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED YOU TO LOOK AT.
WHAT TIME WE NEED TO, WE, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO PUT THIS, WELL, PROBABLY FRIDAY BY THE END OF TODAY.
RIGHT? BECAUSE IS THAT GONNA BE ENOUGH TIME FOR EVERYBODY? IS THE WHOLE WEEKEND TO NO, IT'S, IS IT ENOUGH TIME FOR HER? IS THAT ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU? I, BY FRIDAY, BY FIVE, BY TIME ONLY FRIDAY YOU GUYS WILL HAVE AGENDA FRIDAY CLOSE AGENDA DRAFT.
FRIDAY CLOSE OF BUSINESS BACK WE HAVE.
AND THEN WE COULD TAKE A LOOK AND SEE.
SO OVER THE WEEKEND, THAT'S OUR TIME IS REALLY THE BACKGROUND.
IS THERE ENOUGH BACK? WE BACK.
SO TOWN BOARD HOLD ON, HOLD ON.
FOR MONDAY, THAT MEANS THAT MEANS WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT THE STUFF OVER THE WEEKEND.
SO FOR MONDAY MORNING, YOU ARE NOW WORKING ON THE AGENDA TO GET, TO GET THE STUFF FINALIZED.
WE SHOULDN'T BE GIVING YOU ANYTHING ON MONDAY MORNING.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, THAT'S SOME EMERGENCY COMES UP WHERE WE HAVE TO GO.
THE CHIEF COMES IN, WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER.
SO, SO THAT'S, SO WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA INCLUDE, WE GOTTA PUT THAT IN THERE.
SO THEN THAT, SO THEN THAT'S SUNDAY.
THERE WAS ONE SUNDAY, WEDNESDAY, SUNDAY.
SO HOLLY CAN DO, COULD DO THE AGENDA ON MONDAY.
IF IT REQUIRES SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE TO COME IN AND SPEAK, THEN YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
LIKE FRIDAY, GIVE 'EM A COUPLE OF DAYS NOTICE OR THEY GO ON THE FOLLOWING WEEK OR THEY GO THE PHONE.
BUT YOU CAN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION WITH YEAH.
CAN YOU BE, AND ANY DEVIATION FROM THAT NEEDS THREE BOARD MEMBERS.
IT, 'CAUSE THINGS WILL COME UP, YOU KNOW, LAST MINUTE.
AND WHAT DOES HOLLY DO IF SHE DOESN'T GET EMAIL APPROVAL FROM THREE OF US? PICK UP THE PHONE.
NO, SHE, WHERE WHERE SHE'S GONNA CALL US ON SUNDAY THAT TIME? NO, I THINK IT'S MONDAY.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN SHE'S GONNA LOOK INTO OUR PACKAGE AND SAY, OKAY, WHO DIDN'T RESPOND? HEY, I DIDN'T RECEIVE ANYTHING FROM EUGENE.
YOU, WHOEVER THAT GIVES YOU TIME.
AND THEN, AND THEN THAT KEEPS US HONEST.
I MEAN IF WE KNOW THAT THAT'S OUR DEADLINE, SUNDAY'S OUR DEADLINE, THEN WE KNOW TO PREPARE OUR WEEKENDS.
SHE'S GONNA LOOK AT IT ON MONDAY MORNING.
I DON'T TO THAT WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? I THINK IT SHOULD BE MONDAY MORNING.
MONDAY MORNING, MORNING 9:00 AM MONDAY YOU SAY 9:00 AM OR FOR US TO SAY WHETHER THAT PACKAGE, SHE'S NOT GONNA LOOK AT IT ON SUNDAY.
NO, SHE'S NOT LOOKING AT ANYTHING ON MONDAY MORNING.
WE ARE, WE ARE, WE ARE GONNA DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE SUNDAY.
SO WHEN SHE WALKS IN ON MONDAY BY 9:00 AM SHE HAS EVERYTHING.
BY THE START OF YOUR BUSINESS DAY ON MONDAY.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
I MEAN, YOU BE UP THAT PHONE ANYWAY.
DOES IT ALL, DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? IF NOT, YOU GUYS WILL HEAR FROM ME AGAIN.
WE'LL JUST GO THEN YOU START CALLING US.
YOU START CALLING US AND SAY, HEY, I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING.
YOU CAN TEXT ME ONCE WE GET INTO THAT ROUTINE, RIGHT? MM-HMM
IT'S GONNA SHOULD, THAT WHOLE THING IS JUST TRYING TO GET TO THIS POINT.
LIKE, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I JUST STILL, STILL BEHIND THE EARS HERE.
I'M STILL TRYING TO, YOU KNOW, FIGURE OUT.
I MEAN, I GOTTA, YOU SEE WHAT I HAVE TO DEAL WITH, RIGHT?
I JUST DON'T THINK THE PRIOR METHOD WAS, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO FIX SOMETHING THAT WASN'T BROKEN.
EXCEPT FOR THE FACT THAT EXCEPT, YEAH, WE GET AN AWFUL LOT OF REQUESTS TO PUT THINGS ON THE AGENDA WITHOUT BACKER.
NO, THAT WASN'T THE PART WASN'T BROKEN.
SHE WASN'T GETTING RESPONSES FROM US.
'CAUSE WE HAVE AN AGENDA REVIEW.
YOU'RE THE ONLY THAT EVERYBODY ONLY YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE THAT EVERYBODY UNANIMOUSLY AGREES IS TERRIFIC.
UH, SO THE THING IS, UH, SO THIS IS THE, SO THE WHOLE BOARD, UH, NO,
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YOU'RE BLOWING SMOKE.SO YOU HAVE, BUT YOU HAVE PROCESS.
THEY'VE BEEN BOTH DOING GREAT JOBS.
THANK YOU FOR PUTTING IT TOGETHER.
UM, ARE WE READY? BUT BEFORE YOU MOVE FORWARD, JUST AGAIN, THE WHOLE REASON WAS THE QUESTION WAS WHEN WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SPEAK, WHEN AFTER MONDAY, MONDAY AFTER SHE GETS EVERYTHING AND THEN SHE JUST PUTS EVERYTHING TOGETHER, THEN YOU GUYS CAN HAVE YOUR CONVERSATION.
SO WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, THEN YOU CAN, BUT THAT'S AFTER MONDAY.
RIGHT? BUT ISN'T THAT TOO LATE TO GET YOU ANY INFORMATION? BUT SHE'S ALREADY DOING THAT.
THAT'S SHE'S ALREADY, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN DONE.
IT'S NOT YOUR JOB TO GET THE INFORMATION.
THE PERSON, IT'S THE PERSON WHO WANTS TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.
NOW, IF THE PERSON WHO WANTS TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA NEEDS HELP FROM YOUR OFFICE, WELL THEY, THAT'S WHAT WHAT THEY HAVE TO DO.
RIGHT? WELL ACTUALLY NOT ON YOU, IT'S ON WHOEVER'S PROPOSING THE AGENDA.
AND AGAIN, ALL OF THIS CAME FROM ME BEING ELIMINATED FROM THE PROCESS.
SO THAT'S WHY I CREATED THE PROCESS.
WHEN YOU WEREN'T ELIMINATED FROM THE PROCESS YEAH.
YOU WEREN'T PART OF THE PROCESS.
IF I WAS, I, I MAY HAVE BEEN A PART OF THE PROCESS, BUT I, I RECEIVED NO NOTIFICATIONS ABOUT WHAT, WHAT WAS ON THE AGENDA, WHAT WAS GOING NO, THE AGENDA WOULD NEVER PART OF THE PROCESS.
SO WHAT WHAT WHAT LISA'S RESPONDED TO IS THE FACT THAT TYPICALLY A CLERK IS PART OF THE PROCESS.
A MUNICIPALITY CAN DECIDE NOT TO DO THAT.
BUT THAT'S HER UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THE PROCESS.
BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DID, SHOULD BE, WE DECIDED THAT IT WOULD NOT BE PRIOR TO HER COMING BOARD.
IT'S NOT STATUTORY THAT SHE WELL, NO, I I KNOW.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT'S THE THIS IS THE MILE THAT YOU WANTED TO NO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS NOT SOMETHING NEW.
I DON'T WANT THE PEOPLE THE IMPRESSION ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS IS SOMETHING NEW.
THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN IN PLACE FOR A WHILE.
THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT A, THIS IS NOT A NEW PROCESS.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR.
SO I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO THINK THE TOWN BOARD HAS ELIMINATED A TOWN CLERK FROM SOME TOWN BUSINESS.
SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IS NOT OUT THERE.
THAT YOU WERE NOT PART OF THE PROCESS PRIOR TO YOU COMING TO THE BOARD.
YOU WERE NOT PART OF THE PROCESS.
THE PROCESS ALWAYS FELL ON THE ONUS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL AID.
SO LEMME MAKE SURE, SORRY, MAKE SURE I SAY THAT CORRECTLY.
AND, AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR WANTING TO BE MORE INFORMED AHEAD OF THE GAME.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WITH THE TWO OF YOU HAVING THAT MEETING MONDAY SHOULD BE ABLE TO SATISFY THEN YOU ARE PART OF THAT PROCESS.
WHAT IS THIS? WHAT IS AGENDA? AGENDA? THIS, THIS IS DONE.
I JUST HAVE TO GO ON AND SPEAK TO THE CHANGE OF YOU START.
DO YOU HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE AGENDA? NO.
I I WE, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
SO, SO ARE WE GONNA SUGGEST, ARE WE DOING YES.
GONNA SUGGEST THAT? ARE WE DOING, ARE WE DOING OUR PRESENTATIONS? PRESENTATIONS ARE THIS WEEK BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A LENGTHY PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU WANNA TABLE THE LIAISON REPORT? YES.
IS IT ON HERE? IT'S ALWAYS ON HERE.
LET'S SEE, WHERE IS IT? SO THEN WE JUST, WE'LL JUST PUT TABLE, BUT WE MAY HAVE SOME ANNOUNCEMENTS STILL.
SO ARE WE DOING OR WE NOT ARE WE HAVE AN ANNOUNCEMENT.
THIS BE A QUICK ANNOUNCEMENT INSTEAD OF A REPORT.
THERE JUST A COUPLE THINGS HAPPENING.
SO WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? WHAT, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE WITH REPORTS? REPORT IS ON THE WORKINGS OF A COMMITTEE OR WHATEVER THEIR PRIORITIES, THEIR ACCOMPLISHMENTS IS SUPPOSED TO, LIKE AN EVENT IS HAPPENING SATURDAY KIND OF THING.
SO THE ANNOUNCEMENT WOULD BE UPCOMING EVENTS.
SO WHERE ARE WE DOING THAT AT? WHERE ARE WE DOING THAT AT? OR, OR THE TOWN CLERK CAN DO IT.
WHAT DO YOU NEED? THE ANNOUNCE EVENTS.
SO WHERE ARE WE DOING THAT AT TOWN CLERK COMMENTS.
SHE'S GONNA, SHE'S, I JUST, THAT'S WHY I WANTED, I WANNA PUT IT AT, WE JUST FEED HER WHATEVER.
IS THIS GOING FORWARD THAT ANY ANNOUNCEMENT WE HAVE, WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO LISA AND WE'RE GONNA GIVE IT TO THE TOWN CLERK.
AND THE TOWN CLERK IS GONNA DO THE ANNOUNCEMENTS.
WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE DOING LIAISON REPORTS OR NOT.
WE'RE DOING LIAISON REPORTS AND WE HAVE SOMETHING RELATED TO OUR AREA.
WE MIGHT AS WELL SAY SO, BUT WHAT IF IT'S NOT? SO WHAT IF THERE'S SOMETHING I CAN'T, WHAT IF SOMEONE SAID SOMETHING TO ME AND SAY, HEY, I WANNA INVITE THE TOWN BOARD TO AN EVENT MM-HMM
AND IT'S NOT RELATIVE TO MY DEPARTMENTS.
DO I STILL JUST GIVE IT TO LISA OR I MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT? SO I JUST WANNA SAY WE ARE GONNA, IF WE'RE GONNA PUT IN A, A THEME, NOT A THEME.
WELL, THE SUPERVISOR JUST THAT HE DOES
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ANNOUNCEMENTS ALSO.SO BETWEEN THE TWO MEETING, IT'S GONNA BE YOU TWO GOING OUT.
SO I'M GONNA PUT ANNOUNCEMENTS ON THE PHONE.
HE SHOULD BE GIVING YOU WHATEVER ANNOUNCEMENTS HE WANTS TO SAY.
SO IT GOES ON AND THEN WE HAVE ONE PLACE.
AGAIN, IT'S JUST MAKING SURE EVERYBODY HAS THEIR LITTLE SILO, RIGHT?
ELLEN AND JOY, DID YOUR SIGN LOOK ON THE PRESENTATION? WHY? WHY ARE WE IN HERE WITH THAT OVER THERE? ARE WE THINKING WE SAVING THE HEAT BY NOT HAVING ALL THE LIGHTS ON? NO, PLEASE DON'T TURN THE LIGHT.
THE PROCLAMATIONS ARE OVER THERE FOR EVERYONE TO SIGN.
OH, I HAVEN'T SIGNED ANYTHING.
I DON'T HAVE A, BUT THERE'S TWO SIGNED.
I GOT A MILLION BLUEPRINT IN MY OFFICE.
SEE? FIND OUT THE QUOTE HE HAS.
SO TO DO WITH JUST CONVINCING TO ONE.
IT JUST MAKES MORE SENSE TO DO IT THAT WAY.
WE HAVE IT ALL OVER THE, SO IT'S GONNA TAKE OFF ANALYSIS OFF SUPERVISOR COUNSEL.
LEAVE IT LATER BECAUSE HE'S NOT GOING TO GIVE UP VISIT ABSENCE.
BUT FOR THIS COMING MEETING, YOU SHOULD THINK WHATEVER.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT EVENTS, DIFFERENT PLACES TO BE.
FOR TB ONE, THE NUMBER IS GOING TO CHANGE SLIGHTLY BECAUSE THIS WAS CALCULATED THROUGH JUNE 1ST.
UM, SO NOW WE'RE AT JUNE 24TH.
I SENT THE UP WHAT I THINK THE UPDATED NUMBER IS TO THE TAX RECEIVER FOR HER APPROVAL.
AND THEN I'LL ASK TO AMEND THAT AMOUNT.
JUST, WELL, WE'RE NOT GONNA AMEND IT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T PUBLISH IT BECAUSE THAT WE KNEW THAT NUMBER WAS THERE.
SO, SO JUST WANNA MAKE NOTE TO EVERYONE THAT, THAT NUMBER WILL CHANGE.
BUT ALSO FOR THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING SCHEDULED FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, WE DO NOT HAVE A LAW READY TO GO THAT IS 40 CLIMATE CHANGE.
SO ARE WE GONNA OVER THAT? I WOULD SUGGEST WE HOLD IT OVER BECAUSE A PERSON, THE RESIDENT WOULD NOT HAVE THE ABILITY RIGHT NOW TO REVIEW IT AND PROPERLY DISCUSS THE MATTER REVIEW BECAUSE EXACTLY.
SO WHEN? JULY MEETING? JULY OR NOTIFIED JULY 9TH.
WELL THERE'S, THERE WASN'T ANYONE WHO WAS INVITED SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS HEARING, BUT I WOULD ASK THAT IT'S PUT ON THE WEBSITE THAT IT'S HELD OVER TO JULY.
I WAS BUSY READING ACROSS WHICH ONE ARE THE SECOND, THE SECOND PUBLIC HEARING, NOT THE A D ONE.
THE TAXATION, UH, PROPERTY TAX EXEMPTIONS FOR RESIDENTS WITH HOMES WERE AFFECTED BY MAJOR LOCAL DISASTERS.
SO MY LITTLE JUST IN GENERAL GOING FORWARD, LITTLE PET PEEVE IS ALWAYS PUT THE FIRST ONE'S FULL NAME WHEN WE SAY THEM IN A PROCLAMATION.
WHICH ONE WAS THAT? THAT THE, UH, YEAH, ACTUALLY I WRITE.
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ANYTHING.WHEN I
MEANING THE PERSON WHO IS BEING, LET ME SEE IF I GET THAT BACK.
SO IS THAT PREPARED BY KRISTA OR BY I? NO IDEA.
SOME NOTES FOR JUST LIKE STANDARD.
WAS THERE, SO IS THERE A, UM, TEMPLATE THAT THEY COULD JUST USE? YEAH, I SORT DONE ONE.
I IF IT, ARE WE MISSING THE ARE WE, ARE WE? YEAH.
SHOULD, ARE WE WAITING FOR CALL BEFORE WE ONLINE ON THE AGENDA? THE A T SEVEN RESOLUTION IS ATTACHED TO C ON ONE.
WHAT'S THAT? WHERE WAS THAT? ONLINE ON THE AGENDA.
A SEVEN RESOLUTION IS ATTACHED TO THE CO ONE ITEM OR RESOLUTION.
IT'S JUST FROM THE PEANUT GALLERY SEVEN ATTACHED TO THE, UM, BUDGET TRANSFER.
IT ACTUALLY SAYS A T SEVEN, BUT WHEN YOU CLICK IN CO ONE IS WHAT POPPED UP.
OH, JUST THE C ONE CORRECTLY? YEAH.
MR. WOULD YOU LOOK FIRST AT THE, UM, AGENDA? ARE YOU OKAY WITH THE ATTENTION? I'M, I'M OKAY.
THERE WERE A COUPLE OF THINGS YOU MIGHT, YOU WANNA KNOW WHAT THEY ARE? YEAH.
NUMBER ONE, WE DECIDED NOT TO DO LIAISON REPORTS.
THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE WE HAVE A LONG PUBLIC HEARING.
LISA WILL MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS, WE'LL FUNNEL ANNOUNCEMENTS TO HER, BUT WE KNOW THAT YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE ANNOUNCEMENTS TO, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE WILLING TO GIVE UP, LETTING HER MAKE ALL THE ANNOUNCEMENTS FOR D FOR EVENTS FOR TOMORROW AS A RULE, GENERAL RULE GOING FORWARD, GOING FORWARD MAYBE DEFINITELY FOR TOMORROW.
SINCE WE'RE NOT
YEAH, YEAH, WE KNEW THAT, BUT I JUST, I KNEW YOU WANTED TO GIVE IT UP PAUL.
THAT'S FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD.
WE'RE, WE'RE HOLDING OVER ON PUBLIC HEARINGS.
AMENDING CHAPTER, CHAPTER FOUR 40 TAXATION OF THE TO JULY 9TH.
AND I'LL ADD THAT TO THE WEBSITE.
AND THERE IS A LOGISTICAL ISSUE.
THAT'S THAT JUST YOU TELL DYLAN IS
SO THAT, I THINK WE'RE ALL GOOD.
WE'RE ALL GOOD WITH THE AGENDA.
NOW YOU WANNA END THE MEETING? OH, I'D LIKE TO END THE MEETING.
DO WE HAVE A LONG EXECUTIVE SESSION? AVERAGE? UM, OKAY, WELL LET'S GET INTO IT.
MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND SEEK LEGAL ADVICE IN VARIOUS MATTERS.