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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH PLANNING BOARD AGENDA MONDAY, August 4, 2025 – 7:00 P.M. Meetings of the Planning Board will be adjourned at 10:00 p.m. ]
UH, MONDAY, AUGUST 4TH, 25 RECORDING PROGRAM.WELCOME TO THE MONDAY, AUGUST 4TH, 2025 PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
IT IS 7:05 PM UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT.
WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE VICE CHAIRPERSON PINE? HERE, MR. DESAI? HERE.
HERE, NOTE FOR THE RECORD THAT CHAIRPERSON LESLIE DAVIS, BOARD MEMBER JOHAN SNAGS AND BOARD MEMBER MICHELLE MOYER ARE NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
UH, WE HAVE TWO SETS OF MINUTES TO APPROVE THIS EVENING.
UH, THE MINUTES FROM JULY 2ND, WHICH WERE DISTRIBUTED AS AMENDED, UH, AND THE MINUTES FROM JULY 16TH, UH, THE JULY 2ND MINUTES WERE AMENDED TO REFLECT THAT THE AGENDA WAS TAKEN OUT OF ORDER AT THE JULY 2ND MEETING.
UM, WERE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS OR FEEDBACK ON THAT SET OF MINUTES OR THE MINUTES FROM JULY 16TH? I HAD NO COMMENTS.
ALRIGHT, THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.
SHOULD I DO IT TOGETHER OR SEPARATE? ALRIGHT.
SO I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JULY 2ND MINUTES.
AND I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE JULY 16TH UH, MINUTES.
UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIT, LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TWO PIECES OF CORRESPONDENCE THIS EVENING.
SO THE FIRST BEING CASE NUMBER PB 23 DASH 25 PRETA GIACOMO PERKINS SEVEN AND EIGHT RITA LANE, PO.
THIS IS A SECOND PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION EXTENSION REQUEST.
UH, THE ACTUAL, UH, FIRST EXTENSION DID EXPIRE ON JULY 19TH, BUT THE SUBMISSION MADE BY MR. TERRE WAS TIMELY.
SO AT THIS TIME THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH, UM, THE FINAL PLAT THAT WAS SENT ALONG TO THE PERKINS.
STAFF'S GOING TO BE MEETING WITH THE PERKINS.
UM, SO BY THE BOARD GRANTING THIS EXTENSION REQUEST, WE BELIEVE WE CAN WORK OUT, UH, ANY FINAL COMMENTS THAT THERE ARE, GET THE FINALIZED PLAT, GET THAT SIGNED BY EVERYONE INCLUDING THE COUNTY, AND THEN HAVE THEM BACK FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
SO TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS SOLELY, UM, FOR THE PURPOSES OF ENSURING THAT THIS PROJECT CAN MOVE FORWARD.
'CAUSE RIGHT, AS OF RIGHT NOW, TODAY IT IS EXPIRED.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN WORK OUT THESE ITEMS SO THAT WE CAN GET TO A POINT OF FINAL SUBDIVISION.
SO AGAIN, IT'S THE SECOND EXTENSION OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL AND IT'S A RETROACTIVE EXTENSION TO JULY 19TH FOR A PERIOD OF 180 DAYS.
SO WHAT WAS THE REASON FOR, WHAT'S THE REASON BEHIND IT IS THAT THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS AND THERE CONTINUE TO BE, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THE PLAT ITSELF.
SO THERE WAS A PRELIMINARY PLAT, IT WAS APPROVED WHEN THEY CAME BACK TO FILE THE FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT, THERE WERE COMMENTS FROM ONE OF THE CO-APPLICANT AND, UH, IT'S BEING SLIGHTLY ADJUSTED TO REFLECT AND PICK UP THOSE COMMENTS.
TO REFLECT CURRENT CONDITIONS.
CAN YOU TAKE A QUESTION FROM THE I WOULD, I WOULD, BECAUSE THE ONLY THING IS THAT I WANT, IF YOU WANNA SPEAK, PLEASE COME TO THE MICROPHONE AND I WILL, UH, STEP AWAY FOR A MOMENT.
I DIDN'T REALIZE WE GONNA HAVE DISCUSSION.
UM, THE, THE REASON WHY I HAD A COMMENT IS BECAUSE, UM, THE LETTER THAT YOU RECEIVED THAT IS FOR THIS RETROACTIVE WAS, WAS DATED JULY 11TH.
IT MENTIONED THAT THE FINAL PLAT WAS DATED JULY 25TH, SENT OUT TO YOU ON JULY 27TH AT THE BA AT THE END OF THE LETTER THAT WAS WRITTEN BY ANDREW TRUDEAU.
IT SAID, CC THE PERKINS WE NEVER RECEIVED AND HAVE NEVER RECEIVED ANY LETTERS.
AND THE FIRST TIME THAT WE SAW THIS FINAL PLAT, WE HAD A MEETING WITH YOU, AARON, ON THURSDAY, UM, JULY 30TH.
YOU SENT US A COPY OF THIS FINAL PLAT ON JULY 31ST, AND TODAY IS AUGUST 2ND.
SO WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD ONE DAY, BUT IT SAID THAT THIS FINAL PLAT WAS REVISED ON JUNE 27TH.
BUT WE NEVER SAW IT UNTIL JULY 31ST.
SO WHEN IN THE LETTER IT APO IT ACTED AS IF WE WERE OPPOSED.
WE HAVE A HUGE SINKHOLE NOW ON OUR YARD THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED.
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WE FOUND OUT IN THE DRAIN EASEMENT, WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH THE DRAIN EASEMENT.THE FIVE FOOT, IT WAS NEVER ON THE ORIGINAL PLAT.
THE DRIVEWAY EASEMENT WAS NEVER ON.
THE ORIGINAL PLAT FILED IN LAND'S RECORD, WHICH IS THE OFFICIAL SURVEY WHEN, AND SO OUR QUESTION WHEN IT FIRST EXTENSION WAS GRANTED WAS ON MAY 29TH, AND THEN IT WAS GRANTED TILL JULY 16TH.
AND NOW THERE IS A SECOND GRANT THAT IS BEING MADE.
SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT 90 DAYS ENTAILS.
WHEN IS OUR NEXT MEETING? IT JUST SAID 90 DAYS.
AND WE DIDN'T LOOK AT THIS UNTIL WE HAPPENED TO GO TO AGENDA AND MEETINGS AND SEE THIS CORRESPONDENCE THAT WE NEVER RECEIVED THAT HE SAID WITH CC'D, WE NEVER RECEIVED IT FROM YOU.
SO WE WE'RE HAVING A PROBLEM HERE.
WE COME TO A MEETING, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GONNA BE DISCUSSED AT THAT MEETING.
BUT I'M LOOKING AT THE AGENDA.
WE'RE NOT GETTING THE COOPERATION THAT WE EXPECTED THEN FROM CDC TO KNOW WHEN WE'RE GONNA BE PLACED, WHAT IS GONNA BE DONE.
BUT WITHIN THIS FIVE FOOT DRAIN EASEMENT, THE FIRST 30 FEET, FIRST FOOT 30 FEET OF THIS DRIVEWAY, E THE DRAIN EASEMENT DRAIN CONTAINS OUR NEIGHBORS WATER LINE AND GAS LINE.
SO NOW IF THEY DO MAKE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN, FROM THE MAIN CATCH BASIN TO THIS DRAIN EASEMENT, WHICH WASN'T GOING ANYWHERE FOR THE FIRST 30 FEET INTO OUR PROPERTY, AND WE WERE TOLD BY MR. AARON THAT IF WE OPPOSE THIS AND SOMETHING SHOULD HAPPEN, WE WOULD BE RESPONSIBLE.
OF COURSE, WE DON'T WANNA BE RESPONSIBLE, BUT THE TOWN NEEDS TO ADMIT THAT THERE WERE COMPLICIT IN ALL OF THIS.
THAT WAS NEVER ON THE ORIGINAL PLAT THAT WAS ERASED.
AND IT SAYS NO ERASURE OR ANYTHING ELSE.
SOMEHOW IT MIRACULOUSLY APPEARED A FIVE FOOT DRAIN EASEMENT, SO BE IT.
BUT THERE WAS, IT WASN'T CATCHING ANY WATER FROM THE STREET.
THE ONLY WATER THAT GOES INTO THIS FIVE FOOT DRAIN EASEMENT WHERE THEY DUG UP OUR YARD FOUND THERE WAS ANOTHER DRY WELL IS THE GUTTER, THE RAINWATER FROM THE GUTTER THAT GOES DOWN TO THE WATERSHED.
SO FOR THE FIRST 30 FEET IS OUR NEIGHBORS GAS AND WATER LINE.
SO IF THE FINAL PLAT IS APPROVED, THE QUESTIONING THAT I'M ASKING THE BOARD AND HAVING LOOKED AT IT AND I'M NOT A LAWYER, BUT HAVING LOOKED AT IT VERY CAREFULLY, IT SAID EXISTING RIGHTS.
AND WHEN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SIGNED OFF FOR THE WATER SUPPLY, WELL THE WATER SUPPLY AND THE TOWN NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN APPROVED.
SO WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, BUT WE WANT A SHUTOFF.
SO NOW IT'S BETWEEN THE TOWN AND THE PRESSOR GIACOMO'S WHO'S RUNNING THEIR NEW WATER LINE DOWN THEIR OWN PROPERTY SO THAT THE SHUTOFF IS NOT IN OURS.
AND, AND SO I I, I APPRECIATE THIS CONTEXT AND ULTIMATELY, YOU KNOW, I'D ENCOURAGE YOU TO FIND A TIME TO SPEAK WITH STAFF AND GET ALL THESE QUESTIONS ANSWERED.
WHAT WHAT WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US RIGHT NOW IS JUST, UH, CONTINUING THE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED APPROVAL SO THAT WE HAVE A LIVE APPLICATION.
THAT ULTIMATELY YOU CAN DELEGATE.
SO NOW I NEED ENGAGE IN THE TOWN STAFF WITH KNOW WHEN THE 90 DAYS SHOULD YOU APPROVE.
THAT TAKES ASSUMPTION IT TO BE 180 DAYS THAT WE'D APPROVE IT FOR.
WELL I THINK HIS EXTENSION SAID IN THAT LETTER HE WAS ASKING FOR AN ADDITIONAL 90 DAY EXTENSION.
THE BOARD HAS A RIGHT TO GRANT UP TO A 180.
WELL WE FOR 167 SQUARE FEET, 10 BY BASICALLY 10 BY 15.
I DON'T THINK YOU NEED MORE THAN A YEAR.
IT DOESN'T TAKE A ROCKET SCIENCE EITHER.
IT'S GONNA BE DONE BECAUSE WE NEED TO FIRST OFF TO, TO ADDRESS THIS SINKHOLE BECAUSE THE MAJOR CATCH CATCH BASIN IS NOT PIPED INTO ANYTHING.
SO WHEN WE HAD THAT MAJOR STORM ON JULY 14TH, ALL THAT WATER CAME INTO THAT CATCH BASIN OVERFLOWED.
AND THAT IS WHAT CAUSED THE SINKHOLE.
SO YOU KEEP DRAGGING THIS OUT, THIS DOESN'T GET ADDRESSED.
IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT FALLING INTO THIS SINKHOLE, THEN THE TOWN IS LIABLE.
SO I'VE MET WITH THE TOWN ENGINEER AND HE ACTUALLY EMAILED YOU BOTH, UH, THIS AFTERNOON TO ARRANGE FOR A MEETING.
'CAUSE THEY WANT TO EXPLAIN THE WORK THAT THEY SEEK TO TAKE, TAKE, UM, TAKE WITH RESPECT TO, UM, THE SINKHOLE AND THE CATCH BASIN IN AND THE WATER LINE.
SO YOU, IF YOU COULD LET US KNOW YOUR SCHEDULE BY WELL WE CAN MEET WITH THEM TOMORROW.
'CAUSE JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IS TAKING VACATION, WE'RE TAKING VACATION AND THIS IS ONE ITEM THAT CANNOT WAIT TILL NEXT WEEK OR THE WEEK AFTER.
SO IF YOU COULD RESPOND TO THE EMAIL, WE WILL ARRANGE FOR THE MEETING THIS WEEK.
SO MY QUESTION IS, THEIR GAS AND WATER IS ON OUR PR.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THEY'RE NOT COMING THROUGH THE BACK DOOR.
THE ONLY ONE, AS YOU POINTED OUT TO US, WHO HAS THE RIGHT TO CROSS OUR PROPERTY
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IS THE TOWN NOT FOR THEIR GAS AND WATER.THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED THAT THE TOWN APPROVED OR RIGHT.
SO AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA BE DISCUSSED WITH THE PROFESSIONAL STAFF.
SO WHEN WE ARE GIVING US 180 DAYS, WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT AFTER NOVEMBER? BECAUSE THIS ORIGINALLY WAS NOVEMBER 24TH, RIGHT? OF LAST YEAR.
THE APPLICANT DID REQUEST 90 DAYS.
THE BOARD HAS THE RIGHT TO GRANT A HUNDRED TO 180.
UM, I CAN TELL YOU THAT THERE HAVE BEEN A NUMBER OF NEW COMMENTS RECEIVED.
WE CAN GIVE 90 DAYS AND HOPE TO IRON EVERYTHING OUT WITHIN 90 DAYS.
THING IS, IS THAT THE CHANGES HAVE TO BE MADE BY THE SURVEYOR.
THE PLA THE CHANGES WERE MADE TO THE PLA TO THE PLAT.
THEN THEY, THEN THE PLAT HAS TO BE SIGNED BY ALL PARTIES.
THEN THE PLAT HAS TO GO TO THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO BE ENDORSED.
AND THEN IT HAS TO COME BACK TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO BE SCHEDULED FOR CONSIDERATION OF FINAL SUBDIVISION.
AND, AND MEANWHILE, FOR ANOTHER 10 YEARS, OUR, OUR NEIGHBORS ARE USING OUR PROPERTY TO PARK THEIR CAR BECAUSE OF THIS DELAY.
YOU NEVER HONORED THE VIOLATION.
YOU NEVER HONORED THE SUMMONS.
SO THEN WE GOT TO THE POINT WHERE NOW WE SAID, OKAY, WE'LL SELL YOU THE PROPERTY FOR A LOT, A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT.
SO NOW YOU'RE BRINGING THIS OUT TO 12, 15 YEARS SINCE 2008 THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON.
I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO GO ON THAT LONG EITHER.
THEY MAKE THE DECISION AND THE TOWN THEN DECIDES BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND THE PRESS OF GIACOMO'S WHO'S PAYING FOR THEIR NEW WATER LINE TO BE PLACED ON THEIR PROPERTY.
'CAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY PROBLEM.
I, I WOULD JUST TO CLARIFY, UH, SORRY, I, IF YOU NO, PLEASE.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A, UH, ISSUE ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION AND, UH, UNDERSTANDING BETWEEN THE NEIGHBOR AND I THINK LOOKS LIKE NEIGHBOR HAS A VERY LEGITIMATE CONCERN ABOUT GETTING THINGS DONE BEFORE WE JUST CASUAL OH, SORRY.
BEFORE WE, UH, UH, KEEP EXTENDING IT AND, AND APPARENTLY, UH, NOT COOPERATING OR NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM.
SO WHAT DO YOU, WHAT ADMINISTRATIVELY WE CAN, UH, DO THAT WHEN WE GRANT THESE 90 DAYS OR MORE, THAT THEY WILL, THEY WILL SAY THAT THEY WOULD NOT COME BACK FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION AND, AND ALSO TO, TO HAVE, UH, ADDRESS THEIR NEIGHBOR'S CONCERN.
WHAT, WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST IS THAT WHETHER OR NOT THE NEXT AND ALL, ALL PIECES OF CORRESPONDENCE RECEIVED FROM THIS POINT FORWARD, WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE INDICATED THAT THEY'RE COPIED TO THE CO-APPLICANT, OUR OFFICE WILL BE SURE TO FORWARD IT, BUT YOU WOULDN'T NEGLECTING THERE TOO.
YOU'VE HAD IT SINCE JUNE 27TH.
AND THEN YOU DIDN'T TELL US UNTIL PLEASE, UNTIL JUNE 30TH THAT YOU SAID YOU WOULD SEND US A DECISION AT THIS TIME.
BUT YOU TOLD US WHAT I'M JUST SAYING.
COMMUNICATION, AARON, WE DID NOT EVEN KNOW YOU'VE HAD THIS IN YOUR POSSESSION SINCE JUNE 27TH.
WE SPOKE TO YOU ON JUNE 30, JULY 30TH.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE IT FROM YOU UNTIL JULY 31ST.
AND IT HAS BEEN OUT THERE SINCE JUNE.
AND WE ALWAYS CONTACT YOU BECAUSE WE KNOW WHEN THE ATTORNEY IS NOT CONTACT CONTACTING US.
SO WE EXPECTED YOU TO HAVE BEEN VERY UPFRONT WITH US WHEN WE MET WITH YOU ON THURSDAY, JULY 30TH, THAT YOU ALREADY HAD THAT FINAL PLAT IN YOUR POSSESSION.
UH, MAY I, AND WE ONLY HAD ONE DAY TO GIVE YOU COMMENTS, TO SEND YOU BACK, TO SEND BACK TO YOU.
AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE DID.
I JUST, I DON'T WANNA TAKE UP TOO MUCH OF YOUR TIME.
GEORGE ELLISON FROM KEENAN BEING ON BEHALF OF, UH, SALVATORE AND ROSARIO PRE GIACOMO.
UM, TO THE EXTENT THAT, UH, THE LETTER WAS NOT TRANSMITTED TO THE NEIGHBORS, WE APOLOGIZE FOR ANY LACK OF COMMUNICATION ON THAT BASIS.
UM, MR. SCHMIDT CORRECTLY POINTED OUT THAT WE HAD REVISED THE PLAT AND THEN THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS.
AND SO WE ASKED FOR THE EXTENSION TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE COMMENTS IN OUR LETTER.
WE REQUESTED 90 DAYS BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT IT COULD BE DONE IN 90 DAYS, BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO GIVE 180 TO GIVE US A CUSHION SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN.
IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK AGAIN IN 90 DAYS, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.
IF WE HAVE TO COME BACK IN 90 DAYS AGAIN, WE'RE FINE WITH THAT.
WE ARE IN RECEIPT OF AN EMAIL CONCERNING SOME COMMENTS FROM, UM, MS. PERKINS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE BELIEVE THAT A LOT OF THESE COMMENTS CAN BE EASILY RESOLVED TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY HAVE TO DO WITH A SUBDIVISION PLAT TO THE EXTENT THAT THEY HAVE TO DO WITH A PRIVATE SURVEY, UM, ON, ON THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY THAT IS BEYOND THE SCOPE OF A SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
THAT'S WHAT WE RESPECTFULLY SUBMIT.
UM, BUT OF COURSE WE'RE WILLING TO MEET WITH THE TOWN TO RESOLVE THIS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE A FOREVER PROCESS.
WE AGREE THERE SHOULDN'T BE MANY
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YEARS IN THE FUTURE.WE THINK IT CAN BE RESOLVED WITH SOME MINOR CHANGES WHERE THERE'S DISCREPANCIES IN NUMBERS.
OF COURSE WE'LL CORRECT THAT THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE.
BUT IF IT'S GONNA BECOME A PRIVATE SURVEY THING WHERE YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY EVERYTHING ON YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY, THAT IT EXCEEDS THE BOUNDS OF THE SUBDIVISION.
AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE THE CONVERSATION, BUT I JUST WANTED THAT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD.
I I I THINK, I THINK WE, WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA.
UH, SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS A PROBLEM OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN, BETWEEN YOU AND, UH, YOU HAVE A PROBLEM OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN YOU AND THE NEIGHBOR.
I'M SAYING THIS LETTER, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND TO THE EXTENT THAT THIS LETTER WAS NOT TRANSMITTED TO THE NEIGHBOR.
THAT MAY HAVE BEEN AN OVERSIGHT AND WE APOLOGIZE FOR THAT.
UM, SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WERE RAISED AND WE UNDERSTAND THE CONCERNS, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SUBDIVISION.
SO YES, TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN COMMUNICATE BETTER, WE WILL STRIVE TO DO THAT.
IT WAS AN OVERSIGHT, BUT THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CORRELATE WITH A LOT OF THESE CONCERNS FOR WHERE THE TOWN'S CONNECTIONS ARE FROM THE CUL-DE-SAC ONTO THE NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.
SO, SO ULTIMATELY WE DON'T NEED TO SOLVE ALL THAT.
WHAT WHAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US IS A REQUEST TO RETROACTIVELY APPROVE THE, THE, UH, 90 APPROVAL, UH, THE EXTENSION.
UM, IT SEEMS THAT THE CO APPLICANTS WOULD PREFER 90 DAYS.
UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO 90 DAYS? YEAH, WE, WE, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PREFERENCE.
I'M JUST EXPLAINING WHY WE REQUEST REQUESTED 90.
REQUEST ORIGINALLY REQUESTED 90.
UM, SO, SO THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE A 90 DAY NON-PRO TRUNKED, UH, RETROACTIVE EXTENSION OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
WHAT DAY IS THAT? CAN YOU GIVE, UH, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY FROM, NO, IT WOULD BE 90 DAYS FROM JULY 19TH.
SO APPROXIMATELY OCTOBER 19TH.
OBVIOUSLY SOME MONTHS HAVE 31 DAYS, SO PLUS OR MINUS A COUPLE DAYS.
WE CORRECTED A ALRIGHT, WE, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR.
SO DO I, DO I SEE MOTION? SO MOVED.
UH, AND WE HAVE A SECOND PIECE OF CORRESPONDENCE.
THAT IS THE ELMWOOD PRESERVE SUBDIVISION.
IT'S A REQUEST FOR AN EXTENSION, UH, FOURTH PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION EXTENSION REQUEST.
SUBMITTED BY LETTER DATED JULY 15TH, 2025 FROM, UH, COUNSEL FOR PROJECT DAVID STEIN.
IT INDICATED THAT, YOU KNOW, WHILE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION PLAT APPROVAL WAS ISSUED, UM, THE APPLICANT'S STILL IN PROCESS OF ESSENTIALLY ADDRESSING ALL THE CONDITIONS OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL SO THAT THEY CAN GET TO A POINT WHERE THEY CAN COME BACK FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
THIS IS THE FIRST, UH, THIS IS THE FOURTH.
SO THERE WERE, THIS, THIS PROPERTY WAS IN THE BROWNFIELD CLEANUP PROGRAM.
A LOT OF WORK THAT THEY HAD TO DO AND A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS.
THE BOARD WANTED TO BE SURE AND STAFF WANTED TO BE SURE THAT ALL THOSE CONDITIONS WERE ADDRESSED PRIOR TO THEM COMING BACK FOR FINAL SUBDIVISION.
SO THEY'RE IN PROCESS AND THEY'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH THE TOWN QUITE REGULARLY.
AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY A, A, A PRETTY LARGE PROJECT THAT'S BEING MOVED THROUGH THE PROCESS.
UM, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALRIGHT, THEN I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, A 100 AND DAY EXTENSION OF THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
SECONDED BY SECOND, UH, MR. WEINBERG.
UH, SO FIRST UP IN OLD BUSINESS WE HAVE CASE NUMBER 24 SECOND, UH, 24 22, UH, LEVY.
UH, MR. AMIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME UP? YEAH.
AND AGAIN, SO THIS PROJECT WENT THROUGH A NUMBER OF PUBLIC HEARINGS.
THE PLANNING BOARD CLOSED THE PUBLIC HEARING, UH, AT ITS LAST MEETING, LEFT THE WRITTEN RECORD OPEN FOR, UH, AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
SOME ADDITIONAL SUBMISSIONS THAT CAME IN THAT WERE FORWARDED BOTH TO THE APPLICANT, TO THIS BOARD, AND, UM, SUBMITTED AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL RECORD FOR THE PROJECT TONIGHT.
UM, THE PLANNING BOARD WILL BE CONSIDERING A DECISION STRICTLY ON THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
SO THERE WAS DISCUSSIONS AND REQUESTS, UH,
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ABOUT THE WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMIT AS WELL AS THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.THOSE ARE NOT BEING CONSIDERED THIS EVENING.
THE ONLY DECISION IS ON THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, AND THAT'S THE DRAFT THAT WAS CIRCULATED TO THE BOARD.
UM, IF THIS PROJECT WERE TO MOVE FORWARD TOWARDS A FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL, THAT WOULD BE THE TIME THAT THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD CONSIDER DECISIONS ON THE WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMIT AND THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT.
AND, UM, WE CIRCULATED THE DRAFT.
WE'RE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.
I CAN HIGHLIGHT OR IDENTIFY ANY SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN INCLUDED IN THE DRAFT DECISION.
WHEN THEY COME BACK, SO WHEN THEY ARE, SO THE TREES WILL NOT BE REMOVED AT THIS POINT.
THE TREES WILL NOT BE REMOVED UNTIL, AND THEY COME BACK ONLY IF FINAL SUBDIVISION AND THE TREE REMOVAL PERMIT ARE ISSUED.
AND IF IT DOES EVEN GET THAT FAR, THEN I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD WOULD CONSIDER CONDITIONING THAT THE TREES ARE ONLY REMOVED AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT IS, UH, BEING APPLIED FOR, FOR THE, WHAT WOULD BE THE NEWLY CREATED LAW.
SO NO TREE REMOVAL AT THIS TIME? NO.
WOULD, UH, WOULD WE LIKE TO HEAR THE SITE SPECIFIC CONDITIONS? IT, IT'S UP TO THE, IT'S PRETTY ALRIGHT IF, IF, UH, YOU WANNA BRIEFLY, BRIEFLY WALK THROUGH THEM.
UM, SO I'M ON PAGE FIVE OF THE DRAFT DECISION CONDITION 4.1.
IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PLAN ENTITLED SITE LAYOUT PLAN SHEET C TWO SLASH REVISED 7 17 25.
ANY LANDSCAPING OR OTHER WORK PERFORMED WITHIN THE INDICATED HATCHED AREA SHALL BE WITH HAND TOOLS ONLY.
SO THAT WAS THE AREA THAT WHERE IT WAS DISCUSSED DURING THE HEARING ABOUT RESETTING THE LIMITED DISTURBANCE LINE AND ONLY ALLOWING HAND WORK WITHIN THAT AREA RATHER THAN MACHINERY BECAUSE IT'S IN THE WET AND WATER COURSE BUFFER.
SO THAT WORK WILL, WILL BE, UH, WITH HAND TOOLS ONLY, NO LANDSCAPING OR WORK WITH MACHINES SHALL BE PERMITTED IN THE INDICATED HATCH AREA 4.2.
IN THE EVENT THAT PLANTINGS IN INSTALLED OFF SITE ARE DAMAGED, REMOVED OR DIE, THE APPLICANT SHALL REPLACE ALL SUCH PLANTINGS WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF THE 1 34 EUCLID AVENUE PROPERTY.
SO THAT RELATES TO THE WETLANDS MITIGATION PLANTINGS THAT ARE BEING INSTALLED OFFSITE.
BUT IF THE APPLICANT, SORRY, BUT IF SO, CAN WE ADD THAT, UH, UH, UH, WHOEVER, UH, IS, UH, IF THE PROPERTY, THE APPLICANT HAS SOLD HIS PROPERTY.
SO I THINK THAT'S COVERED LEGALLY THROUGH AN INDICATION THAT THE APPLICANT INCLUDES ALL SUCCESSORS.
SO WE, UH, SO IT'S IN THERE SUCCESSORS AND THAT SUCCESSORS AND ASSIGN, IF YOU LOOK AT, BUT DOESN'T SAY APPLICANT'S AND SUCCESSOR.
SO CONDITION 3 2, 3 0.2 DOES CONTAIN THAT.
SO, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO REPEAT THAT.
PRIOR TO OBTAINING A BUILDING PERMIT, UH, THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN A FRESHWATER WETLANDS PERMIT FROM THE NEW YORK STATE, DEC 4.4 PURSUANT TO THE TWO FOOT FOREVER GREEN EASEMENT, NO BUILDING STRUCTURE, WALL PATIO, TREE FIREPLACE, PAVEMENT OR PIPE SHALL BE INSTALLED.
ONSET EASEMENT ACCEPT THOSE AREAS DESIGNATED FOR UTILITIES, EXCLUDING LAWN, SHRUBS, PLANTS, AND FLOWERS.
THAT RELATES TO THE ARDSLEY ESTATES INC.
EASEMENT AGREEMENT DATED 4 19 94 RECORDED WITH THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DIVISION OF LAND RECORDS AS LIB R 1 1 1 3 2, PAGE 1 49.
FURTHER PURSUANT TO NOTE E ON SHEET TWO OF SUBDIVISION MAP 2 5 1 7 1, THE EASEMENT SHALL PREVENT ANY VEHICULAR TRAFFIC OR UTILITY CROSSING, SAID EASEMENT.
SO I JUST WANNA TAKE A, A BRIEF MOMENT ON THIS CONDITION.
SO I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS FROM THE NEIGHBORS THAT THE NEW LOT, UH, COULD POTENTIALLY BE USED AS AN ACCESS TO THE CHAUNCEY ESTATE THAT THE PLANNING OR THE CH THE CHAUNCEY PROJECT THAT THE PLANNING BOARD, UH, APPROVED LAST YEAR.
UM, THIS CONDITION WOULD BASICALLY MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR THIS NEW LOT TO BE USED TO ACCESS THE CHAUNCEY PROPERTY.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO CURRENTLY, BECAUSE THIS IS AN EXISTING EASEMENT, IT'S NOT PERMITTED CURRENTLY, BUT THIS MEMORIALIZES IT IN THIS, IN THIS APPROVAL.
THE APPLICANT SHALL UTILIZE PREVIOUS PAVERS FOR THE PROPOSED PATIO ON THE VACANT LOT.
UM, I'LL GO SKIP THROUGH THE OTHERS.
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BUILDING PERMIT ON THE VACANT LOT, THE APPLICANT SHALL CONFIRM THAT WATER PRESSURE ASSOCIATED WITH ANY PROPOSED ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE MEETS ALL TOWN, COUNTY AND OTHER AGENCY REQUIREMENTS.AND FOUR POINT 12 THE APPLICANT SHALL IDENTIFY THE SITE TRIANGLES, TRIANGLES ON THE SUBDIVISION IMPROVEMENT PLANS, AND PLACE A NOTE ON THE PLANS INDICATING THAT NO OBSTRUCTIONS SHALL BE PERMITTED WITHIN SUCH AREAS PRIOR TO CONSIDERATION OF THE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPLICATION.
UH, WE ALSO INDICATED, I'M ON PAGE SIX NOW, 7.3 THAT THE APPLICANT, UH, I'M SORRY, THE TOWN ENGINEER SHALL CONFIRM THAT THE APPLICANT'S STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM IS DESIGNED TO HANDLE A 50 YEAR STORM EVENT AS REPRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
ARE THERE ANY, UH, COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION ON THE APPROVAL? WHAT ABOUT THE EXISTING, UH, UTILITIES OR OTHER THINGS ARE STILL, UH, REMAINING OR IT'S BUILDING, BUILDING INSPECTOR HAS GIVEN A CLEAR, UH, BUILDING INSPECTOR HAS GIVEN A, UH, SORT OF, UM, LOOKED AT IT AND SAY ALL THE VIOLATIONS WERE BEING REMOVED FROM THE EXISTING SUB.
I HAVE NOT SEEN AN UPDATE RELATIVE TO THE REVISED ELECTRICAL PERMIT, UM, THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
I DON'T KNOW IF MR. AMIR OR THE OWNER HAVE AN UPDATE ON THAT, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS FROM THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE THAT THE ELECTRICIAN MUST BE LICENSED AND THAT IT NEEDED TO BE REFILED.
AND I UNDERSTAND IT WAS REFILED, UH, A FEW WEEKS AGO AT LEAST.
AND, AND YEAH, JUST TO, I I BELIEVE THE ELECTRICIAN DID SUBMIT IT, BUT I'LL HAVE TO CHECK.
SO I, OUR OFFICE CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE AS WELL, JUST TO CONFIRM THAT THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THEY NEED TO CLOSE OUT THAT DEMOLITION PERMIT LEGALIZATION.
FOR THE OFFSITE ENCROACHMENTS, WE DON'T NEED TO NO.
AT ANY CONDITION FOR THAT
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I ALRIGHT THEN, UM, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION CAN AS I JUST HAVE A COUPLE, COUPLE OF COMMENTS.
UM, JUST, JUST TO GO OVER A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT AARON HAD MENTIONED ON 4.2, THE PLANTINGS THAT THE APPLICANT OR ITS SUCCESSOR WILL REPLACE ANY DAMAGE OR REMOVED OR, UM, PLANTINGS.
SHOULD THERE BE A TIMEFRAME ON THAT? 'CAUSE THEN THAT RUNS ADDING INFINITUM.
IT SHOULD BE SOME REASONABLE PERIOD ONE YEAR, THREE YEARS.
SOME MOST MITIGATION PLANS HAVE SOME TIMEFRAME TOO.
NORMALLY IT'S TIED TO I THINK THE ORIGINAL PLANTING SEASON AND THEN IT NEEDS TO SURVIVE.
CORRECT ME IF AARON, FOR ONE TO THREE YEARS.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I FIGURED.
UM, THIS IS SOMEWHAT UNIQUE IN THAT PLANTING, OFFSITE MITIGATION PLANTINGS THAT, UH, HAVE BEEN AGREED UPON BY THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHEN THEY'RE GONNA BUILD ON THAT LOT.
THEY MAY END UP DISTURBING THESE PLANTINGS.
UM, AND IT MAY NOT BE FOR FIVE YEARS FROM NOW.
YEAH, I DIDN'T CAN CAN WE SAY, YOU KNOW, THE LATTER OF THREE YEARS OR EITHER THE LADDER OF ONE OR THE OTHER? I'M, I'M OKAY WITH THAT.
I THINK AFTER CONSTRUCTION BEGINS EITHER ON THIS LOT OR THE ADJACENT LOT.
YEAH, IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE THAT.
SO, SO THAT MEANS THAT THEY HAVE, WE HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOMETIMES WE HAVE SUBDIVISIONS APPROVED AND NO CONSTRUCTION OCCURS FOR SEVERAL YEARS.
SO DON'T WANNA SAY FIVE YEARS AND THEN NOTHING OCCURS UNTIL YOU'RE SEVEN.
I I THINK THAT'S A GOOD WAY TO, AND THEN, UM, JUST A COUPLE OF MORE.
I I DON'T RECALL IF IT'S A ONE FOOT OR TWO FOOT EASEMENT.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF LOOKING AT IT FOR SOME REASON.
IN MY HEAD I'M THINKING ONE FOOT.
BUT IF IT'S TWO FEET, THEN THAT'S TWO FEET.
I JUST DIDN'T RECALL OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UM, AND THEN JUST IN TERMS OF PROCESS, UM, IF THE BOARD APPROVES IT AND THEN GO TO FINAL SUBDIVISION PLAT, IS THE BOARD WAIVING HEARING AND WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S THE PROCESS? SO THAT CAN'T BE DETERMINED AT THIS TIME.
DEPENDS ON IF ANY CHANGES, UH, ARE MADE TO THE PLAT BETWEEN PRELIMINARY AND FINAL, UH, THAT WEREN'T AUTHORIZED VIA THIS DECISION.
AND IF ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR NEW INFORMATION COMES TO LIGHT, THE BOARD RESERVES THE RIGHT TO HOLD A HEARING.
SO IT WOULDN'T MAKE THAT DECISION UNTIL SUCH TIME AS YOU FILE FOR FINAL PROPOSED FINAL SUBDIVISION.
AND JUST LOOKING AHEAD, THE ONLY THING
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THAT'S ANTICIPATED ARE THE THINGS THAT ARE TO BE REMOVED OR REMOVED ON IT.SO IT, IT WILL BE CONSISTENT WITH THIS, WITH THESE CONDITIONS.
SO I DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY, ANY CHANGES.
SO, SO WHAT CORRECTION, SO HOW WOULD THE 4.2 WOULD READ? OH, IT'LL BE CORRECTED, RIGHT? WE SAY AARON, HOW MANY? OH YEAH.
HOW MANY YEARS AFTER IN IT? NO, SO THERE WOULDN'T BE TIED TO YEARS.
I THINK WHAT IT WOULD BE TIED WOULD BE TO THE LATTER.
WHAT I WROTE IS THE, UH, IN THE EVENT THAT SUCH PLANTINGS INSTALLED OFF SITE ARE DAMAGED, REMOVE OR DIE, UM, LET'S SEE, I THINK I HAVE HERE THE LADDER OF CONSTRUCTION, UH, EITHER ARE TIED TO EITHER THE LADDER OF EITHER THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE NEWLY CREATED LOT OR THE APPROVED LOT ON THE CHAUNCEY SUBDIVISION PARCEL.
I JUST WANT TO JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO BEAT THIS TOO, TOO HARD, BUT SHOULD THERE BE A SUNSET PROVISION ON THAT? I MEAN, IF THEIR CONSTRUCTION DOESN'T START, I'M GONNA TAKE AN EGREGIOUS FOR 10 YEARS.
I MEAN, IS THE APPLICANT STILL RESPONSIBLE? IF IT'S, IF IT'S, I MEAN, THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF A SUNSET.
WELL, I THINK THAT MAKES, TO ME IT MAKES SENSE THAT, UH, AND SO, SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST YOUR GOOD FAITH.
IT'S NOT JUST A GOOD FAITH OF, UH, WOULD YOU DO IT OR NOT.
BUT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER IS, I WILL TELL YOU THIS, AND CONTRARY TO KIND OF WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT A COUPLE MINUTES AGO, AN APPROVED LANDSCAPE PLAN RUNS WITH THE LAND.
SO JUST AN EXAMPLE, A SHOPPING CENTER SUBMITS A LANDSCAPING PLAN TO THIS BOARD.
IT ULTIMATELY GETS APPROVED AND THE PLANTINGS ARE INSTALLED, LET'S SAY IN PARKING LOT ISLANDS WITHIN A SHOPPING CENTER.
AT ANY POINT IN THE FUTURE, A TREE OR TREES DON'T SURVIVE, WHETHER IT'S ONE TREE OR 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, THE TOWN HAS THE RIGHT TO CALL BACK UPON THAT PLAN, WHICH IS AN APPROVED PLAN AND INDICATE TO THE APPLICANT THAT THE, THAT THE SITE'S NONCOMPLIANT WITH RESPECT TO THE PLAN AND THAT THE TREE HAS TO BE REPLACED.
BUT IN THIS SITUATION, THE APPLICANT, IT'S TAKEN UPON THEMSELVES BECAUSE A NEIGHBOR IS, IS PERFORMING CONSTRUCTION.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT.
SO PERHAPS IT'S A TIMEFRAME AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION.
SO WITHIN THREE YEARS OF CONSTRUCTION ON THE, THAT'S WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GETTING AT.
AND THIS LAST ON, ON ON THE LANDSCAPING, AND I'LL, I'LL END WITH THIS.
THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S SORT OF THREE ELEMENTS.
THERE'S LANDSCAPING ON THE, WE'LL CALL THE EXISTING A LOT, RIGHT? WHERE THE HOUSE IS LANDSCAPING ON THE PROPOSED NEW LOT AND LANDSCAPING OFFSITE.
SO I WOULD, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT AS TO MAYBE OFFSITE AND NEW LOT DIFFERENT THAN THE EXISTING LOT THOSE WOULD COME AT, AT BUILDING PERMIT OR IS, I MEAN, THING, I THINK THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE.
THEY SHOULD DO, THEY SHOULD CERTAINLY DO RESIDENTS.
THAT'S UP TO THE I'M CONFUSED.
WELL IF YOU THINK ABOUT ABOUT IT, THE, UM, SO, SO WHERE, WHAT CONDITION IS, OR IT A NEW CONDITION? I THINK IT'S JUST A GENERAL COMMENT YES.
IS STILL FOR, SO WITH RESPECT TO LANDSCAPING, UM, GENERALLY, YOU KNOW, THE LANDSCAPING'S GONNA BE INSTALLED, UM, YOU KNOW, EITHER PRIOR TO CEO OR AT THE TIME OF BUILDING PERMIT SUBMISSION, WHAT HAVE YOU.
SO I THINK, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE QUESTION IS WITH RESPECT SPECIFICALLY TO THE LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED ON THE NEWLY CREATED LOT WHILE THAT THAT SPECIFIC LANDSCAPING, CAN THAT NOT BE INSTALLED UNTIL THE TIME OF, YOU KNOW, A BUILDING PERMIT IS FILED OR A CO IS REQUESTED AND OH, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S REASONABLE BECAUSE IF THEY'RE GONNA PLANT PLANTS, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEAR TERM AND THEN DOWN THE ROAD SOMEONE BUYS THE LOT AND HAS TO GRADE IT AND, YOU KNOW, DESTROY THE PLANTS THAT WERE INSTALLED, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT TYPICALLY WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR.
YOU SEEM LIKE YOU HAVE A QUESTION.
JUST, I'M JUST UNDERSTANDING THAT WE ARE APPROVING THE PRELIMINARY, A PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION.
AND HOW DOES IT TIE INTO THAT? THAT'S, THAT'S ONLY CONFUSION.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF TIMES WE PUT IN ALL THE CONDITIONS OR A NUMBER OF THE CONDITIONS THAT MAY NOT TAKE EFFECT UNTIL, LET'S SAY AFTER FINAL SUBDIVISION WE HAVE A SECTION ON LANDSCAPING.
SO I, IF WE WERE TO CLARIFY AND INDICATE THAT, UM, WITH RESPECT TO LANDSCAPING ON THE NEWLY CREATED LOT, IT SHALL BE INSTALLED PRIOR TO A FINAL CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR ANY BUILDING CONSTRUCTION ON THE SUBJECT LOT.
AND, AND DOES THAT APPLY TO THE OFFSITE SINCE BOTH OF THEM ARE INTENDED TO PROTECT THE REAR? NO, BECAUSE, UM, I, SO WITH RESPECT TO THE OFFSITE LANDSCAPING, THAT IS ESSENTIALLY MITIGATION FOR ENCROACHMENTS THAT TOOK PLACE
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SPECIFICALLY WITHIN A WETLAND BUFFER.AND WE WOULD LIKE THOSE PLANTINGS CARRIED OUT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? ALRIGHT, THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION AS AS AMENDED.
MR. DESAI? ALL IN FAVOR? CHAIR VOTES.
ALRIGHT, NEXT WE'LL BE GOING INTO PUBLIC HEARING.
SO LET'S JUST TAKE A THREE MINUTE RECESS TO GET UP TO THE DAY.
UH, I WILL CALL THE MONDAY, AUGUST 4TH, 2025 PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
UH, WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING FOR PB 24 0 9 CHOW.
UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT, WOULD YOU CALL THE ROLE VICE CHAIRPERSON PINE? HERE MR. DESAI? HERE.
OUR ALTERNATE MS. ANDERSON HERE.
WE DO HAVE MS. MOYER, UH, ON ZOOM, BUT SHE WILL BE A NON-VOTING MEMBER THIS EVENING.
CHAIRPERSON DAVIS AND BOARD MEMBER SNAGS ARE NOT PRESENT THIS EVENING.
SO MS. ANDERSON WILL BE A FULL VOTING MEMBER.
WANNA INTRODUCE THE PROJECT FOR THIS CALL? BOB? YOU CAN CALL HIM.
I'D LIKE TO CALL UP, UH, MR. BERNSTEIN REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT.
IF YOU NEED ME TO SHARE SCREEN FOR ANY REASON WITH THE PLANS THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, UH, WHY DON'T WE DO THAT? YES.
FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC THAT THE PLAN SHOULD BE UP THERE ON THE SCREEN.
UH, MY NAME IS BOB BERNSTEIN FROM BERNSTEIN AND ASSOCIATES, REPRESENTING THE APPLICANTS DAVID CHOW MARY AND LAND CHOW.
UH, THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON FOR PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL OF A, UH, RE SUBDIVISION OF A, OF AN EXISTING, UH, ONE LOT SUBDIVISION INTO A TWO LOT SUBDIVISION.
UH, ESSENTIALLY WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE ARE TAKING, UH, THE ONE LOT SUBDIVISION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THIS BOARD, UH, A COUPLE YEARS AGO.
AND WE ARE CREATING TWO BUILDABLE LOTS, UH, THAT, UH, EACH OF WHICH EXCEEDS THE MINIMUM, UH, UH, ZONING REQUIREMENT FOR A LOT, UH, IN AN R 30 DISTRICT.
UH, AND A THIRD LOT THAT WILL SERVE AS A, UH, ACCESS STRIP OR, UH, FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SHARED DRIVEWAY THAT WILL CONNECT THESE TWO BUILDABLE LOTS TO, UH, UH, CLAYTON ROAD, WHICH IS A PUBLIC STREET.
UM, WHEN WE WERE LAST BEFORE THE BOARD, UM, AT A WORK SESSION, UH, UH, THE, UH, THERE WERE TOTAL OF SIX VARIANCES REQUIRED, UH, BY THE BUILDING INSPECTOR.
THIS BOARD ISSUED A, UH, POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE ZONING BOARD WITH RESPECT TO EACH OF THE SIX.
UM, AND AT ITS MEETING ON JULY 17TH, THE ZONING BOARD, UH, APPROVED ALL, ALL SIX VARIANCES.
SO WE ARE NOW HERE WITH THE VARIANCES HAVING BEEN APPROVED.
UH, THE PLAN, UH, IS ESSENTIALLY CALLS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SHARED DRIVEWAY, WHICH WILL BE 20 FEET WIDE, UH, UH, THROUGH THAT ACCESS STRIP, WHICH IS ABOUT 55 FEET WIDE.
UH, THERE IS A Y SHAPE CONFIGURATION FOR EACH OF THE TWO LOTS THAT CONFORMS WITH, UH, FIRE REGULATIONS.
UH, SO THAT THIS IS A PLAN THAT, UH, SATISFIES THE FIRE REGULATIONS AND THE GREENVILLE FIRE DISTRICT HAS SIGNED OFF ON IT.
UM, THE, UH, UH, I DUNNO WHAT ELSE I CAN SAY THAT WE HAVEN'T ALREADY DISCUSSED.
UM, I WILL ASSUME, UH, BASED ON COMMENTS, UH, THAT, THAT, UH, THERE WILL BE CERTAIN CONDITIONS THAT YOU WILL ATTACH TO THIS.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, THE, UH, UH, THERE WILL BE OF COURSE NO PARKING ON THE ACCESS STRIP OR ON THE SHARED DRIVEWAY.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S SAFE, UH, AND THAT THERE ARE NO OBSTRUCTIONS RESPONSIBILITY FOR MAINTAINING THE SHARED DRIVEWAY.
IT RESTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, UH, ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WILL HAVE LEGAL OWNERSHIP OF THAT LOT, UH, SUBJECT TO A PERMANENT RIGHT OF EASEMENT FROM THE, UH, UH, OF ACCESS, UH,
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FOR THE OTHER PROPERTY OWNER, UH, THEY WILL JOINTLY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING IT.GARBAGE WILL BE PICKED UP ON CLAYTON, UH, AND THE SNOW REMOVAL WILL BE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
THIS IS A SUBDIVISION THAT, UH, UH, WILL BE MARKETED FOR SALE.
THE APPLICANTS DO NOT PLAN TO BUILD.
UH, AND SO, UH, A NUMBER OF THE CONDITIONS THAT WOULD BE TRIGGERED, UH, REALLY WOULD ONLY BE TRIGGERED UPON, UH, THE FILING OF A BUILDING PERMIT CONSISTENT WITH THE OVERALL, UH, PLAN.
UM, THE PLAN DOES SHOW PRO FORMA HOUSES ON EACH OF THE, UH, THE TWO LOTS.
UH, AND, UH, UH, WHAT ELSE CAN I SAY? UM, UH, UH, AND WE DID RECEIVE A COMMENT, UM, TODAY FROM, UH, AN ENGINEER WHO WAS CONCERNED THAT THE THIRD LOT, THE, THE LOT, UM, UH, THAT'S NOT TO BE BUILDABLE, BUT WOULD, IS TO BE WHERE THE, UH, THE SHARED DRIVEWAY IS GONNA BE CONSTRUCTED.
UH, THAT THAT LOT WAS NON-CONFORMING AND QUESTIONED WHETHER THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS, UH, LEGAL OR, OR, OR PERMITTED.
AND I WOULD SUBMIT THAT THE, UH, PLANNING BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY UNDER ITS, UH, ENABLING STATUTES TO APPROVE SUBDIVISIONS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
UH, AND IT'S SUBJECT TO, UH, THE SUBDIVISION, UH, REGULATIONS CHAPTER TWO 50 OF THE CODE.
UH, AND IT'S ALSO SUBJECT TO THE ZONING LAW AND, AND STATE LAW.
UM, IT'S R 30 ZONE, UH, IMPOSES A 30,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM FOR BUILDABLE LOTS.
THIS LOT IS NOT A BUILDABLE LOT.
AND, UH, IF IT NEEDS TO BE MADE EXPRESSED THAT IT'S NOT IN BUILDABLE OR CONDITIONED THAT IT'S NOT BUILDABLE, THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE BECAUSE IT'S CLEARLY NOT BUILDABLE, IT'S NOT INTENDED, UH, FOR ANYTHING TO BE CONSTRUCTED ON IT OTHER THAN THE, UH, UM, SHARED DRIVEWAY.
THAT'S TO CONNECT THE TWO LOTS.
UM, SO, UH, AND THE PLANNING BOARD HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DO THAT.
UH, UH, WE'VE WORKED WITH TOWN STAFF, UH, AND WE'VE HAD, UH, THREE WORK SESSIONS WHERE WE'VE GONE OVER THESE PLANS.
UM, AND WE HAVE DONE OUR BEST TO, UH, COMPLY WITH THE SUGGESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE, UM, UH, TO GO WITH THIS KIND OF A PLAN.
UM, BECAUSE, UH, WE BELIEVE, AND I THINK YOU ALL BELIEVE AS WELL, THAT THIS PLAN WILL MINIMIZE THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES AND BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, THAT THE ALTERNATIVE, UM, UH, OF PUTTING IN A, UM, 26 FOOT WIDE ROADWAY IMPROVED TO TOWN STANDARDS, UM, WOULD HAVE RESULTED IN, UH, A MUCH LARGER IN, UH, UH, IMPERVIOUS SURFACE.
UM, AND THE REMOVAL OF A LOT OF TREES.
AND THIS WILL, UH, RESULT IN, UH, LESS OF AN ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT.
UM, YOU KNOW, GRANTED IT'S GONNA BE TWO HOUSES THAT WILL BE THERE INSTEAD OF ONE HOUSE, BUT THE PROPERTY OVERALL IS SO LARGE THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE DENSITY REQUIREMENTS OF THE TOWN FOR AN R 30 ZONE.
SO WITH THAT, UM, I, UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, UH, TWO THINGS.
ONE, YOU SPOKE BRIEFLY THAT REGARDING THE TREE REMOVAL, IF YOU COULD SPEAK TO THAT IN A LITTLE MORE DETAIL WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSED PROJECT AS WELL AS THE WETLAND WATERCOURSE PERMIT, IF YOU NEED ME TO FILL IN ANY GAPS THAT I CAN
UM, JUST BECAUSE THOSE ARE SUBJECT TO THE PLANNING BOARD RIGHT.
AS WELL, UM, IN, IN, IN CONNECTION WITH THIS APPLICATION, THERE WILL BE BOTH A WETLANDS WATERCOURSE PERMIT, UM, FOR WHICH, UH, UH, WE'VE GOTTEN, UH, I GUESS RECOMMENDATION FROM THE CAC AND, UH, UH, THE, THERE WILL ALSO BE A TREE PERMIT REQUIRED, A LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT'S BEEN FILED WITH THIS PLAN.
UM, WE ARE, UH, WORKING ON A REVISION TO THAT, WHICH I SHOULD GET TO YOU I THINK WITHIN A WEEK.
UM, BECAUSE, UH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE EXISTING LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, IS UP TO DATE WITH WHAT, WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
I HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, A, A NEW PLAN TO SUBMIT WITHIN A FEW, WITHIN A WEEK.
IF THIS BOARD WERE TO CONSIDER CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING, UM, THIS EVENING, THEN WE WOULD LIKELY HAVE THE WRITTEN RECORD PERIOD OPEN FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME.
UH, ANY FINAL LANDSCAPE PLAN, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD WANT, UH, IN A TIMELY FASHION.
SO I, I WOULD SAY ONE WEEK FROM TONIGHT, PARTICULARLY IF THE BOARD WAS TO CONSIDER CLOSING, BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO GIVE THE
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PUBLIC AN OPPORTUNITY TO SUBMIT ANY COMMENTS IT MAY HAVE, AND FOR US TO BE ABLE TO POST THAT PLAN ONTO THE TOWN WEBSITE, I, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S REASONABLE.AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH, UH, OUR ENGINEER, UH, ELLIOT S AND THEY'VE TOLD US THAT THEY, THEY, THEY WILL HAVE IT, UH, READY WITHIN THE WEEK.
AND THE WATER COURSE IT RUNS ALONG NORTH CLAYTON AT THE FRONT.
IT RUNS, IT RUNS ALONG NORTH CLAYTON.
UM, AND, UH, THE, THE, THE PROPOSED REMEDIATION IS TO HAVE IT PIPED UNDERNEATH THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY.
UM, CONSISTENT WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES WHO ALSO HAVE, UH, THAT PIPE UNDERNEATH THEIR, THEIR DRIVEWAYS.
YOU KNOW, DIDN'T THAT AREA OF FLOOD REALLY BADLY DURING HURRICANE IDA? I'M NOT AWARE THAT IT HAS.
UM, THE, UH, DURING, WHEN WAS HURRICANE IDA LIKE 2021? I THINK 20.
I, I THINK THAT, I THINK I REMEMBER THERE BEING, IT BEING IN THAT INTERSECTION, THERE BEING REALLY BAD FLOODING.
UM, IT'S NOT AT AN INTERSECTION, SO, WELL THAT AREA, THAT AREA, LONGVIEW AND CLAYTON, IT'S PRETTY HIGH UP.
YOU, YOU MIGHT BE THINKING OF CLARATON, WHICH NOTORIOUSLY FLOODS.
OH YEAH, RIGHT, RIGHT BEHIND THE FIREHOUSE.
THAT DOWN BY TROUBLESOME BROOK AND THAT AREA.
UH, AND, UH, I'M NOT AWARE, I'VE BEEN, UM, WORKING ON LAND USE FOR THIS APPLICANT AND NEIGHBORING APPLICANTS, UH, NEIGHBORS, UH, SINCE I WOULD SAY 2020.
AND, UH, I, I'VE NEVER HAD AN INCIDENT OR, OR HAD HAD TO DEAL WITH ANY KIND OF FLOODING.
UM, WE, UH, WE DID A WETLAND, WE DID, WE DID A, A WORK ON, UH, FOR THREE 15 CLAYTON.
UM, AND WE DID WORK FOR 3 0 5 CLAYTON.
UH, AND THERE'S NEVER BEEN AN ISSUE.
IT CERTAINLY WASN'T RAISED DURING THE CAC HEARINGS.
UM, AND I, UM, UNTIL RECENTLY I'VE LIVED IN THAT AREA AND I DON'T REMEMBER ANY FLOODING THERE, BUT LOWER DOWN TOWARDS CENTRAL AVENUE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD, MR. DESAI? YEAH, THE ONLY COMMENT, UH, UH, SINCE IT'S GOING TO BE A PRIVATE ROAD APPROACH TO IT, UH, HOW ARE YOU GONNA HANDLE THE LIGHTING AND THE SAFETY AND THAT PARCEL THAT'S GOING TO BE OWNED BY JOINTLY OWNED OR IT'S A GOING TO BE A, UH, ONE, ONE OWNER? I THINK, I THINK THE CONTEMPLATION, UH, IS THAT WE WILL, UH, LEGAL OWNERSHIP WILL REST WITH ONE OF THE TWO LOT OWNERS, BUT IT WILL BE SUBJECT TO, UH, UH, OR AN EASEMENT AGREEMENT THAT WILL RUN WITH THE LAND, WHICH WILL MAKE BOTH PROPERTY OWNERS JOINTLY AND SEVERALLY LIABLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE, THE SAFETY AND, AND ANY OTHER CONDITIONS THAT YOU MAY WANT TO IMPOSE IN TERMS OF LIGHTING.
UM, IF THE TOWN'S ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WERE TO REQUIRE LIGHTING, UM, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
UH, MY ONLY CONCERN IS THE ACCESS TO EMERGENCY VEHICLES AND FIRE DEPARTMENT ACCESS TO THE ACCESS TO THE, THE TWO, UH, TO UH, UH, TWO BUILDINGS RIGHT ON THE END OF IT.
AND WHO WOULD BE, MAKE SURE THAT THERE IS NO OBSTRUCTION, THERE IS NOT, IT IS NOT, SOMEBODY HAS THAT SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT CANNOT ACCESS TO THE THINGS.
AND THAT SHOULD BE A CONDITION OF THE GRANT BECAUSE OF THE GRANT OF SUBDIVISION APPROVAL THAT THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR KEEPING THAT CLEAR OF OBSTRUCTION SHOULD REST WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS.
UM, UH, IT IS, IT'S THEIR PROPERTY, BUT THEY HAVE TO KEEP IT ACCESS FREE.
I MEAN, IT HAS TO BE FREE OF OBSTRUCTION IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FIRED TRUCKS CAN GET THERE IN THE EVENT OF ANY EMERGENCY.
AND, AND WE DID REVIEW THAT WITH OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR'S OFFICE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I ALRIGHT.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS IN THE AUDIENCE? ALL RIGHT.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS ON ZOOM? I'M GONNA, YES.
I JUST WANNA, UH, POINT OUT ONE THING.
THE FLOODING IS HORRENDOUS WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT THE DRIVEWAY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT EV WHAT THE, UH, PEOPLE, UH, OR WHAT
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MR. BERNSTEIN IS REFERRING TO.THERE IS A HOUSE RIGHT THERE THAT, UH, THAT FLOODS ENOUGH THAT YOU COULD, UH, CREATE A POND OUT OF IT AT EVERY RAIN, UM, EVERY SINGLE TIME IT RAINS.
ANY BAD RAIN IS, IS JUST, UH, THERE'S A REAL, UH, FLOOD ISSUE RIGHT AT THAT POINT WHERE THEY WANNA PUT IN THE, THE, THE DRIVEWAY AND YOU CAN ASK THE TWO HOMEOWNERS THAT ARE ON OTHER SIDES OF THE DRIVEWAY AND THEY WILL CONFIRM THAT.
AND AS, AS A RESIDENT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, I HAVE A VERY SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT FLOODING, UM, TO MY PROPERTY AND TO THE OTHER NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTIES.
SO I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT POINT THAT THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE AWARE OF.
WE'RE GOING, WE'RE GONNA, DO YOU, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? 'CAUSE WE JUST WANNA OBTAIN ALL THE COMMENTS FROM THE PUBLIC BEFORE WE HAVE THE APPLICANT RESPOND.
I GUESS MY, UM, I JUST WANTED, AGAIN, TO JUST REITERATE THAT MY RIGHT OF WAY GOES THROUGH THE PROPERTY THAT I GUESS THEY'RE DIVIDING TOWARDS THE LEFT.
UM, AND THAT CLEARLY THAT WHOEVER BUYS THAT LAND TO BUILD A HOME NEEDS TO KNOW THAT THAT RIGHT OF WAY LEADS INTO THAT DRIVEWAY.
ACTUALLY, I HAVE A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY ON THE WHAT THEY WILL TURN INTO THE DRIVEWAY.
AND THAT, THAT RIGHT OF WAY CAN'T BE OBSTRUCTED IN ANY WAY, INCLUDING A FENCE.
SO I JUST THINK, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT AWARE TO THE BOARD.
I KNOW THAT IT IS AWARE, I SEE IT ON THE PLAN.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT, UH, IN THE STATEMENT.
C COULD WE PULL UP ON A MAP EXACTLY WHERE THE SITE IS? SURE.
ANYONE ELSE ON ZOOM THAT SOUGHT TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? YES.
JUST BEAR WITH ME FOR ONE MOMENT.
DO YOU HAVE THE GIS WITH THE, IN RELATION TO THE INTERSECTIONS AND, AND WHERE EXACTLY THIS IS? SURE, I CAN PULL THAT UP.
I WAS JUST PULLING THIS UP TO SHOW WHERE THE, THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE EASEMENT WAS THAT CROSSES THE PROPERTY HERE, IT CROSSES THE PROPERTY AND THEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY INTO THAT THIRD LOT, WHICH WILL BE THE DRIVEWAY.
I HAVE A 50 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY IN THAT DRIVEWAY AS WELL.
AND THAT'S CALLED OUT ON THE PLANS.
SO YOU SEE THIS HERE RIGHT OF WAY? MM-HMM
CAN YOU ZOOM THAT IN AGAIN ONE MORE TIME? YES.
SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST ADDING TO WHERE IT SAYS FIRE ACCESS EASEMENT, THAT IT'S, UH, NON BUILDABLE, NOT FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES.
SO JUST A GENERAL VICINITY TO OUR NORTH HERE.
ACROSS THE STREET IS, UH, SUNNINGDALE GOLF CLUB HERE, AND THE PROPERTY IS SOUTH OF UNDERHILL ALONG CLAYTON, WHAT'S THE ADDRESS ON THERE? 3 0 5 AND THREE 15.
SO I WAS TRYING TO FIND IT ON THE APPLICATION MATERIAL ISN'T, IT WAS LIKE COMING UP WITH ZERO CLAYTON AND RIGHT.
SO I THINK THE BEST WAY TO THINK OF IT IS 3 0 5 CLAYTON IS THE, WHAT WAS FORMERLY KNOWN AS THE POOL HOUSE.
UH, IT'S NOW A PRIVATE RESIDENCE.
UM, AND THEN THERE'S THE 50 FOOT ACCESS STRIP AND THERE THERE'S THREE 15 CLAYTON.
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15 CLAYTON, UM, HAS A, UM, DEPRESSION, UH, IN THE FRONT OF THEIR YARD, WHICH SERVES AS A RETENTION POND, I GUESS, FOR WATER OVERFLOW.UM, AND IT WAS REQUIRED AS A CONDITION OF THEIR APPROVALS THAT, THAT BE MAINTAINED AND THAT THAT DOES PICK UP WATER, UH, OVERFLOW.
AND THEY HAD, THEY WERE REQUIRED TO KEEP CERTAIN PLANTINGS IN PLACE, UM, UH, TO DEAL WITH, UH, UH, ITS SERVING AS THAT KIND OF A RETENTION AREA.
UM, BUT, UH, THAT'S ON THEIR PROPERTY ON THREE 15.
UM, AND THE WATERCOURSE WOULD FLOWS ALONG THE SIDE OF NORTH CLAYTON OR CLAYTON.
UM, AND THE, UH, REMEDIATION FOR 3 0 5 WAS TO HAVE A, A PIPE.
UM, THIS WOULD BE A CONTINUATION OF THAT PIPE UNDERNEATH THAT DRIVEWAY TO GO INTO THE PIPE THAT UNDERNEATH THAT, UH, THE DRIVEWAY FOR THREE 15 CLAYTON.
AND THEN THERE'S THE, THAT AREA, UH, THAT HAS, UH, SERVES AS A, A RETENTION PONDER, A DETENTION, ONE OF THE, IT'S, IT'S WHERE WATER GOES.
UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S HOW THE, IT WAS SET UP.
UM, AND, UH, UH, BUT THERE ARE NO, UH, I THINK THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS LOOKED AT BY EVERYONE, UM, INCLUDING THE CAC JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT FIRST OF ALL, THE WATERCOURSE AREA IS PROTECTED.
UM, AND, UH, AND, AND THAT, UH, THERE'S A PLAN TO DEAL WITH THAT WATER SO THAT THE DRIVEWAY, UM, UH, HAS TO BE, WHEN IT'S CREATED AND PAVED OVER, THERE MUST BE A PIPE RUNNING UNDERNEATH IT TO COVER THE WA TO CARRY THAT WATER THROUGH.
UH, THANK YOU FOR PULLING UP THE MAP.
'CAUSE I, I THOUGHT THAT THIS WAS IN A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN IT'S, SO, OKAY.
UM, ARE THERE ANY, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON ZOOM? ANY OTHER FINAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I THINK THERE WAS MR. MA MONACO.
UH, I DID SUBMIT A, UH, TWO PAGE LETTER, UM, AND I DID LISTEN TO MR. BERNSTEIN, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A TECHNICAL PROBLEM HERE.
YOU'VE CREATE, YOU'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE SEEKING TO CREATE A LOT THAT IS ONLY 13,000 SQUARE FOOT AND A 30,000 SQUARE FOOT, UH, DISTRICT.
THE BUILDABLE AREA MUST BE 30,000 SQUARE FEET.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW YOUR BOARD CAN EVER APPROVE THE SORT OF AWKWARD, UH, LAYOUT HERE.
ONE WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD NOT HAVE A 30, UH, A 13,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT IN THIS MIX, AND THAT THERE WOULD BE AN ALTERNATIVE TO, UH, ASKING THE BOARD TO APPROVE SUCH, WHICH YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO APPROVE SOMETHING LESS THAN THE ZONING CODE.
MR. BERNSTEIN TALKED ABOUT BUILDABLE AREA, BUT IT'S GOT BACKWARDS.
IT'S, IT, THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A, THAT BEING ABLE TO APPROVE A LOT THAT'S NOT BUILDABLE
THAT, THAT WOULD BE A CHAOS IF YOU HAD THAT AUTHORITY.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, I I I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE SOME FURTHER THOUGHT ABOUT THIS AND NOT RUSH INTO, UH, CLOSING THIS PUBLIC HEARING AND CERTAINLY NOT RUSH INTO, UH, GIVING ANY APPROVAL FOR THE THREE LOTS.
ONE OF WHICH IS, UH, DEFICIENT IN THE AREA AND POSSIBLY OTHER REASONS TOO.
THAT ONE LOT IS JUST DEFICIENT.
I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT LAYOUT FOR THIS TYPE OF SUBDIVISION.
AND, UH, I HAVE SUBMITTED A, YOU KNOW, I SUBMITTED A, A LETTER TO YOUR BOY.
AND WE RE WE RECEIVED AND DISTRIBUTED.
THE PLANNING BOARD IS ABLE TO APPROVE A NON BUILDABLE LOT FOR ACCESS FOR TWO BUILDABLE LOTS.
THE ZONING CODE DOES NOT PROHIBIT IT, AND THE PLANNING BOARD IS PERMITTED TO DO SO AND HAS DONE SO AND HAS DONE SO IN, IN SEVERAL SUBDIVISIONS.
IT'S QUITE COMMON NOWADAYS TO HAVE A NON BUILDABLE LOT FOR ACCESS TO THE BUILDABLE LOTS.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? NO, MS. NO.
UM, SO YOU HAD MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE GONNA SUBMIT A NEW LANDSCAPE PLAN.
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UH, WE WOULD ASK YOU TO SUBMIT THAT IN A WEEK'S TIME, SO THAT WOULD BE, UH, AUGUST 11TH.UM, AND WITH THAT SAID, I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND KEEP THE WRITTEN RECORD OPEN FOR AN EXTENDED PERIOD UNTIL AUGUST 20TH.
DO I SEE A MOTION? SO, MOVE MR. WEINBERG.
SO WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SESSION.
SO WE WILL, UH, CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 8 0 9 AND TAKE JUST A MOMENT TO GET BACK TO THE TABLE.
IT IS STILL MONDAY, AUGUST 4TH, 2025, AND THIS IS STILL THE PLANNING BOARD MEETING.
UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE, UH, A WORK SESSION ON PB 25 0 3 HIGHTOWER.
UH, I WILL CALL UP MR. CACHI HERE.
UH, THIS RELATES TO A PLANNING BOARD STEEP SLOPE PERMIT APPLICATION.
SO I'LL TURN THINGS OVER TO MR. KAIA FOLEY.
WE'VE ENABLED THE SHARE SCREEN FUNCTION.
JUST MAKE SURE YOU THANK YOU, YOUR HONOR.
UH, GOOD EVENING, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
I'M THE ENGINEER AT THE ON THE PROJECT HERE AT 10 KAON TERRACE.
UH, MY, MY CLIENT IS PROPOSING, UH, SOME REAR YARD IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH INVOLVE REGRADING THE REAR YARD, UH, AND CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, RETAINING WALLS NOT TO EXCEED FOUR FEET HIGH FOR THE PURPOSE OF CREATING A MORE LEVEL YARD, UH, FOR THE CHILDREN TO USE.
UM, I'M GONNA START BY SHOWING SOME PHOTOS TO GIVE YOU A HANDLE ON WHAT'S THERE RIGHT NOW.
UH, SO THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN WITH, UH, IF YOU COULD ZOOM IN A LITTLE BIT MORE, A LITTLE BIT ON THAT, CORRECT? YEAH, SURE.
THAT A BIG MONITOR YOU MUST HAVE.
IS THAT THE FACT THING? IT, LET ME TRY.
AND DOES THAT CHANGE ANYTHING OR NO? YEP.
THAT'S, WELL, NOW WE'RE SEEING A LOT OF THE LEFT MENU, BUT THERE, THERE YOU GO.
UH, SO THIS PHOTO WAS TAKEN WITH OUR BACKS TO THE, TO THE HOME FACING THE REAR PROPERTY LINE.
UH, THERE'S AN EXISTING STONE RETAINING WALL THAT, THAT COMES ACROSS ABOUT, UH, 20 FEET OR SO BACK FROM THE, THE REAR OF THE HOME, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE.
AND THEN IT, IT KIND OF SLOPED FROM THE TOP OF THE WALL TO THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, UH, RENDERING THIS, THIS LAWN NOT TOO USABLE.
SO THE, UH, THE PLAN WOULD BE TO INSTALL A NEW WALL CLOSER TO THE REAR PROPERTY LINE, BUT FAR ENOUGH FROM THE TREES TO PRESERVE THE TREES AND CREATE A TIERED, UH, SECTION OF THE LAWN, WHICH BECOMES LEVEL AND USABLE.
UH, HERE IS A PLAN THAT BETTER DEPICTS UH, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO HERE.
SO THAT PURPLE, THIS PURPLE LINE, UH, RESEMBLES THE EXISTING STONE WALL THAT WE WERE SEEING IN THE PHOTO.
SO WE WERE STANDING ABOUT HERE, UH, SORRY.
HERE LOOKING TOWARD THE REAR YARD, UH, THERE WOULD BE A NEW STAIRCASE CONSTRUCTED, UH, INTO THE EXISTING STONE WALL, UH, FALL PROTECTION INSTALLED AT THE TOP OF THE WALL.
UH, THEN THERE WOULD BE ABOUT 30 FEET OF LEVEL YARD, AND THEN AN ANOTHER FOUR FOOT RETAINING WALL HERE IN BLUE.
UH, THAT'S AT THE BACK PORTION OF THE YARD AND ALONG THE SIDE TO, TO RETAIN THE DIFFERENCE IN GRADE, MAKING THIS USABLE.
AND THEN THERE'S THREE SEPARATE TIERS.
UM, THERE ARE NO WETLANDS, NO TREE REMOVALS, NO BUFFERS, NO FLOOD, PLAIN.
UH, AND THAT'S, THAT SUMS UP THE PROJECT.
IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, UH, I'LL ANSWER THEM.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD AND YES.
UH, MR. WEINBERG, THERE'S NO FILL THAT YOU'RE BRINGING IN TO LEVEL OFF THE YARD? NO, IN FACT, WE'RE HAULING IT OUT.
UH, THERE'S ABOUT SIX TRUCKS, SIX TO SEVEN TRUCKS, UH, OF HAULING OUT.
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THE HILL TO CREATE THE LEVEL YARD.AND HOW ARE YOU GONNA MOVE THAT, THAT, UH, ALSO, YOU KNOW, THAT SOIL OUT OF THE PROPERTY 'CAUSE IT'S A PRETTY TIGHT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO USE LIKE, SKID STEERS AND, UH, TO TAKE THE FILL AROUND THE SIDE HERE, THERE'S ABOUT 13 FEET BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE HOUSE.
UH, BETWEEN THAT AND BY HAND ARE REALLY THE ONLY WAYS TO DO IT.
AND WE'VE DONE A LOT OF DISCUSSION ON THAT, UH, WITH CONTRACTORS AND, AND THE CLIENT.
AND, UH, YEAH, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT THE, UH, THE MOST IDEAL FOR HEAVY EQUIPMENT, BUT IT'S POSSIBLE BECAUSE WE DO HAVE ACCESS TO, TO AND FROM THE REAR YARD FROM THE STREET.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. DESAI? YEAH, I'M JUST LITTLE CONFUSED WITH THE DIAGRAM SENT.
NOT SO THAT YELLOW LINE GOES INTO SOMEBODY'S HOUSE ON THIS SIDE.
OH, SO THAT'S, SO THAT'S FROM THE, UH, THE GIS THE LINES MAY NOT BE PICTURE PERFECT, ACCURATE BECAUSE THE PICTURES ARE TAKEN AT AN ANGLE FROM AN AIRPLANE.
SO IF YOU SEE A LITTLE OVERHANG, IT'S PROBABLY DUE TO AN ERROR IN THE PICTURE.
SO ACTUALLY PROPERTY LINE IS WHAT SHIFTED A LITTLE TO THE RIGHT.
AND, AND THE, UH, ONLY FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS WITH THE, IS THAT, IS THERE ANY TREES THAT COULD BE, UH, IMPACTED WITH THAT HAULING OF THE, UH, EXTRA EARTH OR, THERE IS, UH, NO, THERE IS NO LANDSCAPING ON THAT SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
I MEAN, I CAN TELL IT LOOKS LIKE SOME SHRUB S YEAH.
AND THEN THERE'S A FENCE, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO YOU, BUT UH, IF YOU DISTURB IT, IT THE PLACE, OH, SORRY,
SO IS THERE FREE AND CLEAR ACCESS THROUGH THE SIDE YARD THERE? I CAN'T HAVE THIS ONE.
UH, IS THAT THE, THE QUESTION IS, IS THERE FREE AND CLEAR ACCESS THROUGH THE SIDE YARD? RIGHT.
AND, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, ARE, IF THERE'S FREE AND CLEAR ACCESS, ARE THERE ANY, IS THERE ANY VEGETATION IN CLOSE PROXIMITY THAT COULD BE IMPACTED BY BRINGING HEAVY EQUIPMENT THROUGH THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WEST SIDE PROPERTY LINE? YEAH, I MEAN, THERE IS A, THERE'S A TREE ON THE PROPERTY LINE ON THAT SIDE.
UM, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA BE HEAVY EQUIPMENT.
I, I MENTIONED SKID STEERS AND, UH, MINIS, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, RUBBER TIRE NOT, YOU'RE NOT GETTING LIKE A HUGE EXCAVATOR BACK THERE.
SO, UH, WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT ME TO INSPECT LIGHT EQUIPMENT THAT TO BE USED, THAT'S FINE.
BUT THERE IS A TREE THAT, THAT DOES NEED TO BE PASSED IN ORDER TO GET TO THE REAR YARD AND AT THE FRONT FORKLIFT HOME, UH, IT, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO THE BOARD TO SPEC OUT THE EQUIPMENT THAT WOULD BE UTILIZED.
ALSO, WOULD THERE BE ANY OBJECTION TO LIKE, CONDITION PUTTING DOWN, UM, YOU KNOW, EITHER PLYWOOD OR UH, WOOD CHIPS TO PREVENT ANY SOIL COMPACTION IN THE VICINITY OF THE TREE? YEAH, NO, THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CLEANED UP AHEAD OF A PUBLIC HEARING TREE PROTECTION? ABSOLUTELY.
THE TREE PROTECTION IN THE REAR, UM MM-HMM
THAT'S GONNA BE CHAIN LINK FENCING.
I THINK THERE WAS SOME NOTES PROVIDED RECENTLY.
UH, WE, I USUALLY INSPECT A ORANGE CONSTRUCTION FENCE FOR TREE PROTECTION.
UH, IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE WITH THAT, THEN WE CAN, YOU KNOW, CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT.
SO WHAT WE HAVE, WE HAVE A, A NEWER TREE ORDINANCE THAT DOES REQUIRE THE CHAIN LINK ONLY BECAUSE THE ORANGE CONSTRUCTION OR THE SILL FENCING THAT'S SOMETIMES UTILIZED CAN EASILY BE BREACHED BY EQUIPMENT.
I KNOW YOU'RE NOT USING HEAVY EQUIPMENT IN THIS INSTANCE, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN WORK TOGETHER OUT ON THE SITE TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S, BECAUSE THERE IS SOME MINOR DISTURBANCE ACTIVITIES WITHIN THE DRIP LINES OF THESE TREES.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WHILE, WHILE SOME IS PERMITTED, UM, WE NEED TO ENSURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO MISSTEPS OUT IN THE FIELD AS PART OF THIS ACTIVITY.
AND THE CHAIN LINK HELPS PREVENT ANY INADVERTENT ADDITIONAL DISTURBANCE.
WOULD THERE BE SOME SORT OF A RAILING, UH, ABOVE THE
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PROPOSED, THE RETAINING WALL? THEY'RE LIKE FOUR FEET HIGH? YES.WE'RE, UH, WE ARE PROPOSING FALL PROTECTION.
THIS, THAT'S THE, UH, THE RED, UH, FENCE TYPE LINE.
UH, WE'RE PROPOSING FALL PROTECTION AT THE TOP OF THE WALLS, YOU KNOW, ADJACENT TO THE, TO THE NEWLY CREATED, UH, YARD AREAS.
THAT FULL PROTECTION EXTENDS ANYWHERE THAT HAS A 30 INCH OR MORE DROP, WHICH IS REQUIRED BY BUILDING CODE.
AND THAT GOES WITH THE, THE NEWLY CONSTRUCTED STAIRS TO THAT AREA GOING UP AND THEN COMING DOWN ON THE REAR YARD.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I THINK WE CAN, ALRIGHT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? THEN? I THINK THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO SCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING.
WHAT, UH, WHAT DATE WOULD YOU SUGGEST DEPUTY COMMISSIONER SCHMIDT? SO I THINK WE WOULD'VE TIME ON THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING AGENDA.
MR. OLI, WOULD YOU NEED MORE THAN, UM, A WEEK OR TWO AT THE MAX TO GET IN THE PLANS AS REVISED, AS DISCUSSED THIS EVENING? NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.
'CAUSE UH, WE NEED TO HAVE THE NOTICES DONE, YOU KNOW, WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE SEPTEMBER 3RD MEETING DATE.
ARE YOU AVAILABLE ON SEPTEMBER 3RD FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING? YES.
ALRIGHT, UH, NEXT UP WE HAVE CASE, UH, TB 24 0 1 PB 24 0 4, UH, BMR LEY PARK.
UM, FOR THE RECORD, JENNIFER GRAY FROM THE LAW FIRM OF KEENAN BEAN, UH, HERE ON BEHALF OF BIOMED REALTY.
UM, I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY SEVERAL PEOPLE HERE,
I'M JOINED TONIGHT BY ETHAN WALSH, WHO IS THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT OF BIOMED REALTY.
UH, ALSO, UH, FROM JMC DIEGO VILLA REAL AND ALSO, UH, PAUL EK AND GEORGE RADOS, UH, FROM MY OFFICE FROM KEENAN BEAN.
WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS AN APPLICATION FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT OF THE BIOMED REALTY PROPERTY ON SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, UH, WITH A WAREHOUSE FACILITY.
UM, PROCEDURALLY WE ARE HERE ON REFERRAL FROM THE TOWN BOARD, UM, FOR YOUR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION ON THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION THAT WE HAVE PENDING BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD.
THE PROJECT ALSO DOES REQUIRE A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT FROM THE TOWN BOARD, UM, AND A STEEP SLOPES PERMIT FROM FROM YOUR BOARD, UH, FOR C PURPOSES.
AND THE TOWN BOARD HAS DECLARED ITSELF LEAD AGENCY FOR, FOR C REVIEW, UM, TO ORIENT OURSELVES INITIALLY, UH, WITH RESPECT TO THE SITE.
AND PAUL, DO YOU HAVE TO, UM, ARE YOU ABLE TO CONNECT IN THE WAITING ROOM? SORRY.
UM, SO WHILE PAUL'S BRINGING UP THE SLIDES THAT WE HAVE, UM, I'LL START BY ORIENTING OURSELVES TO THE LOCATION OF THE SITE.
THE SITE IS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF TOWN, KINDA WHERE HASTINGS AND DOBBS FERRY AND ARDSLEY ALL CONVERGE
UM, THE SITE IS ABOUT 43 ACRES, ALMOST 43 ACRES.
UM, AND IT'S SORT OF NESTLED BETWEEN SAWMILL RIVER ROAD AND SAWMILL RIVER PARKWAY TO THE WEST.
AND INTERSTATE 87 TO THE EAST, TO THE SOUTH OF US IS THE WESTCHESTER HILLS CEMETERY.
UM, IMMEDIATELY TO THE NORTH OF US IS A WESTCHESTER COUNTY OFFICE BUILDING.
AND THEN DIRECTLY ACROSS SAWMILL RIVER ROAD FROM THE SITE IS, UH, THE LOFTS, APARTMENT, BUILDINGS.
UM, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY IN THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS.
SO ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET OF THE SITE IS THE VILLAGE OF HASTINGS.
UM, THE BUILDING, I'M SORRY, THE SITE ITSELF IS CURRENTLY IMPROVED WITH A SERIES OF OFFICE BUILDINGS AND, UH, MAINLY FOR RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES.
SO, UH, THE SITE WAS PREVIOUSLY, OH, AND THERE WE GO.
SO THAT BLUE, UM, POLYGON
YOU'LL SEE THE SAWMILL RIVER PARKWAY, UH, TO THE LEFT AND ROUTE, UH, INTERSTATE 87 TO THE RIGHT.
UM, AND IF WE GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THERE WE GO.
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UH, THE BUILDINGS THEMSELVES ON THE SITE IN BLUE, UH, WITH THE APARTMENT BUILDING ACROSS THE STREET, THE CEMETERY TO THE SOUTH AND WESTCHESTER COUNTY OFFICE BUILDING TO THE NORTH.UM, SO AS I MENTIONED, THE THE BUILDING IS, UM, IMPROVED WITH A SERIES OF BUILDINGS.
ALSO, YOU'LL SEE ON, ON THE SLIDE THERE, THERE IS A CROWN CASTLE, UM, ANTENNA CELL ANTENNA, UM, ON A PORTION OF THE SITE.
UM, THE BUILDINGS WERE PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED YEARS AGO BY SIBA GE PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY.
MOST RECENTLY, UH, THE BUILDING WAS OCCUPIED BY ACCORD OF THERAPEUTICS, UM, BUT THEY VACATED THE SITE ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO.
AND IN A MINUTE, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO, TO ETHAN FROM BIOMED TO, TO PROVIDE SOME BACKGROUND ON BIOMED'S INVOLVEMENT IN THE PROPERTY AND WHY BIOMED IS A LIFE SCIENCE COMPANY, IS PROPOSING A WAREHOUSE ON THE SITE.
UM, FIRST I WANNA MENTION A COUPLE OF QUICK POINTS ABOUT WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN, UM, THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN ORDER TO, TO ADVANCE THE PROJECT PRIOR TO COMING TO, TO YOUR BOARD.
UM, SO THE WAREHOUSE FACILITY THAT WE'RE PRESENTING TO YOU TONIGHT, UH, IS A RESULT OF REVISIONS AND MODIFICATIONS, UH, THAT WE'VE MADE IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
WE WERE AT A, AN INFORMAL WORK SESSION WITH THE TOWN BOARD SOMETIME AGO.
UM, AND ALSO FROM TOWN STAFF AND AND TOWN CONSULTANTS.
UM, SPECIFICALLY I'LL MENTION A FEW THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.
UM, FIRST BIOMED HAS COMMITTED TO NOT INCLUDE WITHIN ITS APPLICATION, UM, ANY KIND OF LAST MILE OR HIGH CUBE, UM, UH, TYPE WAREHOUSE FACILITY.
THIS WAS IN RESPONSE, UH, SPECIFICALLY TO A CONCERN RAISED ABOUT THE VOLUME OF TRUCK TRAFFIC.
UM, SO TO ADDRESS THIS CONCERN, WE'VE DECIDED TO ELIMINATE THAT TYPE OR CATEGORY OF USE FROM THE APPLICATION ALTOGETHER.
EVEN THOUGH THIS MAY ULTIMATELY WE UNDERSTAND LIMIT, UM, THE MARKETABILITY OF THE, OF THE PROJECT, QUITE FRANKLY, IT WILL LIMIT THE, THE UNIVERSE OF POTENTIAL USERS.
UM, BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE, WE'VE HEARD THE CONCERNS ABOUT TRUCK TRAFFIC AND, AND RESPONDED TO IT IN THAT WAY.
NOW, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS, AND WE, WE'LL GET INTO THIS IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL LATER, BUT THE TRAFFIC ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT ONLY SIX TO EIGHT TRUCKS, UM, ARE PROJECTED DURING THE PEAK HOURS.
UM, WE'VE ALSO, UH, DONE SOME ARCHITECTURAL MODIFICATIONS TO THE BUILDING ITSELF, UH, TO BREAK UP THE FRONT FACADE OF, OF THE WAREHOUSE BUILDING, UM, FROM SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
UH, THINGS LIKE CHANGES IN PAINT COLOR AND ARCHITECTURAL REVEALS, UH, RECESSED WALL PANELS, UM, JUST TO BREAK UP THE PLANE OF THAT, OF THAT, UM, BUILDING FRONT.
UM, WE'VE ALSO ADDED, UM, UH, SIDEWALKS.
THERE'S, UM, A, A LEG OF SIDEWALK THAT IS PROPOSED, UM, IN ADDITION TO A CROSSWALK SO THAT, UH, FOLKS CAN CROSS SAWMILL RIVER ROAD TO GET TO, UH, BUS SHELTER ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE STREET.
UM, AND THIS IS PARTIALLY IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS THAT WE RECEIVE FROM WESTCHESTER COUNTY PLANNING.
UM, WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF, UM, FINALIZING A NOISE STUDY.
UH, WE'VE SUBMITTED SORT OF PHASE ONE OF THAT STUDY THAT IDENTIFIES THE APPLICABLE THRESHOLDS, UH, FOR, UM, NOISE EMISSIONS FROM THE SITE FOR THE SENSITIVE NOISE RECEPTORS.
INITIALLY, WE WERE THINKING THAT, YOU KNOW, WESTCHESTER CEMETERY, WESTCHESTER HILLS CEMETERY MAY NOT BE A SENSITIVE NOISE RECEPTOR GIVEN, UH, THE OCCUPANTS OF THE SITE
HOWEVER, UM, ON SECOND THOUGHT, WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, FOLKS, UH, VISIT THE, THE CEMETERY TO VISIT LOVED ONES, OBVIOUSLY.
AND, UH, THEY DESERVE TO HAVE A, A QUIET AND PEACEFUL, UM, UH, EXPERIENCE WHILE THERE IN ADDITION TO, TO POTENTIAL, YOU KNOW, FUNERAL SERVICES.
UM, SO OUR NOISE, UH, STUDY WILL, WILL ADDRESS, UM, WILL ADDRESS THOSE, THOSE CONCERNS AS WELL AS NOISE FROM THE APARTMENT BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET.
UM, ALSO, I JUST WANNA MENTION ONE LAST THING BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO ETHAN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BIOME ITSELF.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN PROACTIVE IN OUR OUTREACH TO, UM, THE ADJOINING MUNICIPALITIES.
SO WE HAVE MET WITH VILLAGE OFFICIALS AND HASTINGS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
WE'VE MET, UH, WITH THE FULL BOARD OF TRUSTEES IN ARDSLEY, AND WE'RE SCHEDULED TO MEET WITH THE FULL BOARD OF TRUSTEES IN DOBBS FERRY, UM, IN SEPTEMBER.
SO WE ARE, WE'RE ACTIVELY AND PROACTIVELY REACHING OUT TO THE ADJACENT MUNICIPALITIES, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T HAVE ANY APPROVAL OF APPROVAL AUTHORITY OVER ANY ASPECT OF THE PROJECT, BUT OBVIOUSLY OUR STAKEHOLDERS IN THE FACT THAT THEY ARE NEAR TO THE SITE, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE BEING HEARD AND AND ADDRESSED AS EARLY IN THE PROCESS AS POSSIBLE.
UM, TO THAT EXTENT, WE'VE, WE'VE ALSO BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE REPRESENTATIVES OF THE, THE CEMETERY TO THE SOUTH, UM, AND WE'RE IN ACTIVE COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM AS WELL.
SO, UM, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO ETHAN
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AND, UM, LET HIM TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BIOMED, UH, THEIR EXPERIENCE WITH THE SITE AND WHY WE'RE PROPOSING A WAREHOUSE.I'M SENIOR DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT WITH BIOMED REALTY.
UM, I JUST WANTED TO SPEAK REALLY BRIEFLY TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND ON BIOMED AND ALSO, UM, LIKE JENNIFER MENTIONED, A LITTLE HISTORY OF THE SITE IN TERMS OF BIOMED'S OWNERSHIP OF IT.
SO BIOMED REALTY, AS THE NAME WOULD SUGGEST, IS A LIFE SCIENCE REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY.
UM, WE ALSO OWN AND OPERATE LIFE SCIENCE REAL ESTATE.
WE'RE ACTUALLY THE LARGEST PRIVATELY OWNED, UH, LIFE SCIENCE REAL ESTATE COMPANY IN THE WORLD.
WE'RE FULLY OWNED BY BLACKSTONE, UM, SINCE 2013.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, AS JENNIFER MENTIONED, WE PURCHASED A SITE, UM, BACK EARLIER IN THE, YOU KNOW, ABOUT, IN ABOUT 2010, UH, WE PURCHASED A SITE, IT WAS VACANT.
UM, WE DID SIGN A LEASE WITH A CORD OF THERAPEUTICS IN 2011.
UM, BUT IN 20, UH, 2017, UM, THEY LET US KNOW THAT THEY WERE GOING TO VACATE THE SITE.
UM, THEY HAD A LEASE FOR ABOUT 165,000 SQUARE FEET OF APPROXIMATELY 275,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING.
UM, AND SO SINCE 2017 WHEN THEY TOLD US THEY WERE GOING TO VACATE, WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO ACTIVELY MARKET THE SITE TO A LIFE SCIENCE USER.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD MAKE NOTHING, MAKE BIOMED, YOU KNOW, NOTHING WOULD MAKE BIOMED HAPPIER THAN TO, TO RELEASE THIS SITE TO A LIFE SCIENCE USER.
UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, SINCE 2017, ANTICIPATION OF A CORD OF LEAVING, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TO DO JUST THAT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE SPENT, I THINK I HAVE SOME STATS HERE, YOU KNOW, OVER 150 PLUS BROKER HOURS, OVER 250 PLUS, UH, BIOMED REALTY LEASING TEAM HOURS, UH, TRYING TO LEASE THAT SITE.
WE'VE PARTICIPATED IN LOCAL, YOU KNOW, FORUMS AND, AND UM, UH, INDUSTRY GROUPS, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO GARNER, UH, INTEREST IN THE SITE.
UM, BUT IN THE PAST THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TOURED NOT A SINGLE LIFE SCIENCE USER THROUGH THE SITE.
UH, AND IN THE LAST SEVEN YEARS, ONLY FIVE LIFE SCIENCE USERS HAVE TOURED THE SITE.
AND SO IT'S LED US TO THE CONCLUSION THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE REALLY IS, UH, NOT A SUBSTANTIAL LIFE SCIENCE MARKET, ESPECIALLY FOR A SPACE THIS LARGE, UH, IN WESTCHESTER AND IN GREENBURG.
UM, AND SO IT'S LED US TO PURSUE ESSENTIALLY AN ALTERNATE USE, WHICH IS, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY.
UM, BUT WITH THAT, I WILL LET JMC GET INTO THE MEAT OF THE PROPOSAL AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY.
UH, GOOD EVENING FOR THE RECORD.
AGAIN, DIEGO VI WITH JMC, WITH THE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING CONSULTANTS FOR THE APPLICANT.
AND, UM, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A UNIQUE HISTORY HERE.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS, ME, ME PERSONALLY, UM, SINCE 2010 WHEN, UM, THEY STARTED TRANSITIONING THE PROPERTY AND BIOMED WAS WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AT THE TIME AND THE TENANT AT THE TIME, AND WE STARTED MAKING SMALL MODIFICATIONS TO THE SITE TO ACCOMMODATE THEM.
EVENTUALLY A QUARTER MOVED IN THERE AND WE PROCESSED AN APPLICATION WITH THIS BOARD WHERE WE CONNECTED A COUPLE OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY AND DID SOME OTHER, UH, MINOR SITE IMPROVEMENTS TO ACCOMMODATE, UM, A QUARTER AT THE TIME.
UM, SO THIS IS A PROPERTY THAT WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH FOR, FOR SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS WITH BIOMED, AND NOW HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THEM KIND OF ON THE NEXT PHASE.
UM, THE EXISTING CONDITIONS, NOT, TRY NOT TO REPEAT TOO MUCH OF WHAT, UH, JENNIFER HAD ALREADY GONE THROUGH, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS ON THE EXISTING CONDITIONS THAT IS SHOWN THERE.
UM, THE 42 ACRE, 43 ACRE SITE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
AGAIN, IT EXTENDS ALL THE WAY FROM SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, AND THEN IT DOES ABUT THE THROUGHWAY ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE PROPERTY.
THERE'S THE TOPOGRAPHY OF THE SITE WHERE SAWMILL RIVER ROAD REALLY SITS ON A LOWER ELEVATION AND THEN THE SITE CLIMBS AS YOU GO FROM LEFT TO RIGHT.
UM, THE BACK PORTION OF THE SITE WHERE THE, UM, UH, THE ANTENNA IS, IS A MUCH HIGHER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S A LOT OF TOPOGRAPHY AND GRADE CHANGE, UH, THAT LEADS YOU THERE.
THERE'S A DRIVEWAY THAT LEADS YOU UP TO THAT PORTION OF THE SITE AS WELL.
UH, THERE WERE ACTUALLY TWO BUILDINGS THAT WERE DEMOLISHED AS PART OF THE EARLY WORK THAT WE DID.
UM, THERE WAS THE 4, 4 4 BUILDING, WHICH WAS LOCATED ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY NEXT TO THE CEMETERY, AND THEN THE FOUR 60 BUILDING, WHICH WAS ALL THE WAY ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AT THE TOP OF THE HILL THERE.
THOSE WERE, UH, DEMOLISHED SEVERAL, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN A ACCORDO WENT IN AND OCCUPIED THE OTHER BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, THERE IS A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PARKING ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.
UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF PARKING FIELDS ALL ALONG THE FRONT DITCH.
IF YOU DRIVE ALONG SOME MILL RIVER ROAD, YOU ALMOST SEE THE TIERS OF PARKING ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S THERE.
UM, NONE OF WHICH HAVE BEEN USED FOR SO LONG BECAUSE JUST THE DEMAND FOR PARKING ON THE PROPERTY, UM, REALLY DIMINISHED WITH THE, UH, WITH THE OCCUPANCY OF THE BUILDING AND NOW OBVIOUSLY THE LACK THEREOF.
SO, UM, PAUL, IF WE CAN, UH, UH, FLIP TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND WE CAN JUMP INTO THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS.
SO THIS ROTATES YOU JUST TO ORIENT EVERYONE.
SOOMO RIVER ROAD IS ALONG THE BOTTOM PORTION OF THE PAGE, AND THEN THE THROUGHWAY, OR
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87 IS ON THE TOP PORTION OF THE PAGE.AND WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT LONG RECTANGULAR BUILDING TOTALS ABOUT 280,000 SQUARE FEET.
UM, AND IT IS PROPOSED TO BE A SINGLE, UH, BUILDING THAT WOULD BE USED FOR A WAREHOUSE PURPOSES.
AND I DO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT A DISTRIBUTION CENTER, IT IS NOT A LAST MILE, UH, SORTING FACILITY OR, YOU KNOW, COMMONLY ASSOCIATED WITH AMAZON OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THIS IS STRICTLY A WAREHOUSE USE ON THE PROPERTY.
UM, SO IT'S USED FOR STORAGE AND MATERIAL, STORAGE OF GOODS, ET CETERA, AND THEN GETS ULTIMATELY TRANSPORTED TO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS.
UM, THE BUILDING, THE WAY IT'S SITUATED IS INTENTIONAL.
IT WORKS WITH THE GRADES, IT RUNS PARALLEL TO SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, AND THEN IT STEPS BACK INTO THE BACK PORTION OF THE SITE.
AND THE BUILDING KIND OF SITS AT A LITTLE BIT OF A PLATEAU AND THEN STEPS BACK AND ALL THE LOADING IS IN THE REAR PORTION OF THE SITE.
PAUL, IF YOU COULD JUST POINT TO THE LOADING AREAS THERE, UM, ACCESS TO THE PROPERTY IS AGAIN FROM SAWMILL RIVER ROAD, AND IT'S PRIMARILY FROM TWO EXISTING ENTRANCE POINTS ALONG THE ROADWAY.
THE FAR NORTHERN SIDE OR THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE, UM, THAT'S IMMEDIATELY ABUTTING THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY PROPERTY.
AND THAT'S AN EXISTING DRIVEWAY THAT'S THERE, THAT'S ACTUALLY SHARED WITH THE BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH.
SO THAT DRIVEWAY WOULD REMAIN AS A COMMON ENTRANCE FOR, UH, THE BUILDINGS TO THE NORTH, AND THEN WOULD ALSO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE, UH, BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
UM, SO FROM THERE YOU ENTER INTO THE SITE AND THEN YOU CAN CIRCULATE TO THE BACK PORTION OF IT WHERE THE LOADING AREA IS.
UM, FOR THE BUILDINGS, THERE ARE NO LOADING SPACES IN THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
ONLY PARKING IS SITUATED THERE, LANDSCAPING, ET CETERA.
NONE OF THE LOADING BAYS ARE LOCATED ON THE FRONT PORTION OF THE SITE, WHICH FRONTS ALONG SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
THE SECOND ACCESS POINT IS ON THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE, UM, THE EXISTING DRIVEWAY IS RIGHT NOW.
THAT IS ANOTHER DRIVEWAY THAT WOULD CIRCULATE IN AND AGAIN, PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE LOADING SPACES IN THE BACK.
PARKING FOR THE FACILITY ITSELF IS PROVIDED ON THE NORTH SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE, AND THEN ALL ALONG SOMO RIVER ROAD AS WELL.
SO IT'S BROKEN APART WITH LANDSCAPING LANDSCAPED ISLANDS IN ACCORDANCE WITH YOUR ORDINANCE.
ALL OF THAT IS BEING PROVIDED IN THOSE PARKING AREAS.
UM, BUT THAT'S WHERE THEY'RE BROKEN APART.
THEY ARE NOT CONFLICTING WITH THE TRUCK TRAFFIC.
SO A TRUCK DOESN'T HAVE TO DRIVE THROUGH A PARKING AREA TO GET TO THE LOADING AREAS IN THE BACK.
THE DRIVEWAYS ARE ISOLATED AND THEN THE PARKING SPACES ARE BROKEN OFF AGAINST THOSE, UM, BASED ON YOUR ORDINANCE.
UH, 280 PARKING SPACES ARE REQUIRED, UH, FROM THE CODE STANDPOINT.
THE PROPERTY ITSELF PROVIDES 298 PARKING SPACES, SO WE'RE JUST OVER THAT THRESHOLD A LITTLE BIT.
SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES FOR LAND BANKING OR SOME PARKING SPACES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AGAIN, THE PARKING USE IS A LITTLE BIT HIGH BASED ON THE PROPOSED WAREHOUSE USE ITSELF.
SO THERE'S DEFINITELY GONNA BE SOME OPPORTUNITIES THERE FOR LAND BACKING OF, UH, PARKING SPACES.
THERE ARE 79 LOADING BAYS THAT ARE SITUATED ALONG THE BACK PORTION.
AGAIN, NOT ALL OF THEM MAY BE USED DAY ONE.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE FINAL OCCUPANT OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
UH, BUT IT'S ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE 79 LOADING BAYS ALONG THE BACKSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
IN RELATION TO THAT, IS THE INTENTION FOR THERE TO BE JUST ONE OCCUPANT THE ENTIRE BUILDING? NO, THE, SO THE ANSWER IS WE DON'T KNOW.
HOW'S THAT? UM, THE, THERE IS THE POSSIBILITY OF BREAKING THIS APART TO A MULTI-TENANT BUILDING.
YOU COULD BREAK IT APART IN HALF.
THERE COULD BE TWO TENANTS, IT COULD E THEORETICALLY BE BROKEN UP INTO THREE OR FOUR.
UM, IT'S REALLY JUST ONE LARGE BUILDING THAT CAN BE DIVIDED UP INTO DIFFERENT SPACES.
THAT'S WHY PARKING IS SITUATED ON ALL THREE SIDES.
YOU HAVE PARKING ALONG THE FRONT AND SAW RIVER ROAD.
YOU HAVE THE NORTH AND SOUTH ENDS OF THE BUILDING, AND THEN THE, UM, THE WAREHOUSING OR THE TRAILER LOADING SPACES ARE ALONG THE ENTIRE BACK.
SO YOU COULD BREAK THIS APART INTO MULTIPLE WAREHOUSE TENANTS.
AGAIN, ALL THE SAME THING IN, UH, IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY THAT WAS CONDUCTED, DOES IT ASSUME HOW MANY TENANTS ARE IN THE BUILDING? IT DOES IT, THE TENANT, IT TENANTS DOESN'T COME INTO PLAY.
IT REALLY LOOKS AT THE OCCUPANTS OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
SO WHETHER IT'S ONE TENANT OR 10 TENANTS, IT'S STILL BASED ON THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING ITSELF.
UM, SO AGAIN, THE SITE PLAN, UH, THE WAY IT'S SITUATED RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ALONG THAT FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE EXISTING BUILDINGS AND THOSE PARKING AREAS ARE.
WE ARE PRESERVING THE STEEP SLOPES THAT ARE IN THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AND, AND LEAVING A LOT OF THE WOODED AREAS IN THE OPEN SPACE ON THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
UM, THERE IS THE DRIVEWAY THAT LEADS TO THE NORTHERN PORTION OR TO THE, EXCUSE ME, WE'LL GO THE EASTERN SIDE OR THE TOP PORTION OF THE PAGE THERE.
THAT'S THE OLD LOCATION OF THE OLD FOUR 60
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BUILDING.AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER DRIVEWAY THAT PEELS OFF ON ANOTHER PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THERE.
SO WE'RE PROPOSING SOME TRAILER PARKING SPACES WITH THESE WAREHOUSE USES.
TRAILER PARKING IS CRITICAL TO THE OVERALL OPERATIONS.
THERE'S TRAILER THAT TRAILERS THAT COULD BE STORED ON SITE.
UM, SO THERE ARE 110 TRAILER PARKING SPACES, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S REALLY LOCATED ON THE EASTERN PORTION OF THE SITE.
SOMEWHAT SECLUDED, NOT REALLY VISIBLE FROM THE MAIN ROADWAY, AND THEN YOU'RE BUTTING UP AGAINST 87 IN THE BACK PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THERE.
UM, IF WE COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PAUL.
UM, WE DID HAVE A, AND THIS IS A, A, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT'S, UH, GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH STAFF.
I UNDERSTAND THE, UH, TOWNS CONSULTANT IS IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING THIS.
WE'VE RECEIVED COMMENTS FROM THEM, WE RESPONDED TO COMMENTS.
SO THERE'S BEEN SOME ITERATIONS OF THIS AND THERE'S BEEN SOME BACK AND FORTH.
UM, AGAIN, WE WERE, UH, CONDUCTING, WE CONDUCTED TRAFFIC COUNTS AT THE SITE AND WE PREPARED AN OVERALL TRAFFIC STUDY.
AND AGAIN, IT FOCUSES ON THE WAREHOUSE USE ITSELF.
AGAIN, NOT A LAST MILE, UM, HIGH SORTING FACILITY OR ANY TYPE OF DISTRIBUTION FACILITY.
SO THE TRAFFIC GENERATION ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN SOME OF THOSE, UM, HIGHER GENERATING, UH, DISTRIBUTION AND, UH, SORTING FACILITIES IN WHAT YOU WOULD SEE.
UM, SO WHAT JENNIFER HAD MENTIONED BEFORE WAS THE TRUCK TRIPS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THOSE PEAK HOURS, THOSE CRITICAL HOURS DURING THE MORNING AND THEN THE AFTERNOON, IT'S THAT SIX TO EIGHT TRUCK RANGE THAT'S NOT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE DAY, THERE WOULD BE MORE TRUCKS, BUT WHEN YOU FOCUS DURING THOSE PEAK HOURS, THOSE CRITICAL HOURS IN THE MORNING AND IN THE AFTERNOON, THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD SEE BETWEEN SIX AND EIGHT TRUCK TRIPS TO THIS SITE.
AGAIN, THE TRAFFIC STUDY LOOKS AT THE INTERSECTION OPERATIONS ALONG, UM, SOOMO RIVER ROAD, THE DRIVEWAYS, UH, LAWRENCE STREET.
WE LOOKED AT ALL OF THOSE OPERATIONS AND THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC GENERATION DOES NOT HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE OPERATIONS OF THE ROADWAY AS IT STATE AS IT IS TODAY.
WE EVEN LOOKED AT A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS.
THIS IS AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING, AND WHEN YOU LOOK AT AN EXISTING OFFICE BUILDING THAT'S FULLY OCCUPIED AND FULLY FUNCTIONING AND YOU COMPARE IT TO THE TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE GENERATED FROM THIS WAREHOUSE USE, IT'S ACTUALLY SIGNIFICANTLY LESS.
REGARDLESS OF THAT, WE DIDN'T WANT TO PROVIDE THAT IN THE ANALYSIS.
WE LOOKED AT IT CONSERVATIVELY AND WE LOOKED AT IT AS IF IT WAS VACANT.
SO OUR ANALYSIS LOOKS AT THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS IF IT'S A VACANT SITE.
IT DOESN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR REOCCUPATION OF THE EXISTING BUILDING, BUT WE DID PROVIDE THAT ANALYSIS IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY JUST TO GIVE YOU A COMPARISON BETWEEN THE TWO.
UM, BUT AGAIN, TO PROVIDE A CONSERVATIVE ANALYSIS, WE LOOKED AT IT AS A VACANT SITE AND JUST LOOKED AT THOSE NEW TRUCK TRIPS AND THAT NEW TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAREHOUSE USE.
UM, THIS PROJECT OBVIOUSLY IS A LONG SUMMIT RIVER ROAD, WHICH IS A DOT ROADWAY.
WE ARE SUBJECT TO A DOT PERMIT.
UM, WE'VE ALREADY BEGUN OUR REVIEW PROCESS WITH THEM AS WELL.
UH, WE'VE SUBMITTED PLANS TO THEM.
THEY PROVIDED AN INITIAL REVIEW.
THERE WAS A NUMBER OF COMMENTS THAT, UH, WERE PROVIDED, WHICH I BELIEVE THE TOWN HAS A COPY OF.
UM, BUT THEY WERE ALL FOCUSED ON DETAILS.
THERE WAS NOTHING SIGNIFICANT THAT, UH, FORCED US TO LOOK AT ANY SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT WAS REALLY JUST LOOKING AT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UM, POINTS ALONG THE FRONTAGE AND THE IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE GONNA BE CONDUCTED ALONG THE FRONT PORTION OF THE PROPERTY.
WE ARE WIDENING SAWMILL RIVER ROAD TO PROVIDE A LEFT TURN LANE IN AS REQUIRED BY THE CODE.
UM, SO THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING ALONG THE FRONTAGE, SPECIFICALLY AT THE TWO DRIVEWAYS.
UM, BUT THERE'S NOTHING ELSE ALONG THE CORRIDOR THAT REALLY NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UM, WE KNOW TRUCK TRAFFIC ASSOCIATED WITH THIS IS ALWAYS A QUESTION MARK AND A CONCERN.
UM, SO THAT WAS ANALYZED IN THE TRAFFIC STUDY AS WELL.
UM, TRUCK TRAFFIC BASED ON THIS LOCATION, YOU PRIMARILY EXPECT THEM TO COME FROM THAT 87 CORRIDOR.
IF YOU MAKE A RIGHT OUT OF THIS FACILITY AND YOU GO TO THE NORTH, THERE'S THE ENTRANCE TO THE THROUGHWAY IMMEDIATE, IT'S ABOUT A MILE NORTH OF THIS SITE BEFORE YOU GET TO THE INTERSECTION OF ASHFORD AVENUE IN LEY.
AND RIGHT IN THAT AREA, THERE IS, AND I HOPE I GET THIS RIGHT, THE NORTHBOUND OFF RAMP AND THE SOUTHBOUND ON RAMP.
SO ANYBODY COMING NORTH ON 87 WOULD GET OFF AT THAT LOCATION AND THEY'D BE ABLE TO COME BACK HERE.
AND ANYBODY WANTING TO GO SOUTH ON 87 WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME THING.
NOW, IF YOU COULD NEED TO GO INTO THE OTHER DIRECTION, YOU GO SOUTH TO TUCKAHOE ROAD, UM, TUCKAHOE ROAD IS THAT CLOSEST ROADWAY, IT'S ABOUT THREE MILES SOUTH OF THIS FACILITY AND THAT'S WHERE IT HAS FULL ACCESS TO THE INTERCHANGE AT THAT LOCATION THERE.
UM, BOTH OF THOSE ARE HIGHWAY ACCESS ROADS AS ACCORDING IN ACCORDANCE WITH DOT'S REQUIREMENTS.
SO THEY'VE BEEN LOOKED AT, REVIEWED AND EVALUATED AND THEY CAN ACCOMMODATE THE TRACTOR TRAILERS THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT TO AND FROM THIS FACILITY.
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AS THE THE OWNER OF THE FACILITY AND, AND MANAGING, YOU KNOW, ONE TENANT, POSSIBLY MULTIPLE TENANTS, YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU, WHAT, WHAT MECHANISM ME WHAT MECHANISMS WOULD BE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT THE TENANTS ARE FOLLOWING THIS EXPECTATION AND TRAVELING SOUTH TO TRAVEL NORTH? WELL, I'M GONNA START AND I'M SURE THERE'LL BE SOME OTHER COMMENTS.UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S NO TOTAL CONTROL.
YOU KNOW, A ROADWAY IS A ROADWAY.
PEOPLE, THEY ARE PERMITTED TO DRIVE, BUT WHEN YOU DO HAVE YOUR TENANTS THAT YOU WORK WITH ON A REGULAR BASIS, THEY ARE GIVEN INSTRUCTIONS AND THEY CAN BE GIVEN DIRECTION ON WHERE THE CLOSEST EXITS ARE TO GET TO AND FROM THE FACILITY.
UM, SO THERE IS INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED TO THE TENANTS AND THOSE ARE THE CLOSEST POINTS.
IT'S NOT LIKE, UM, FOR INSTANCE, IF YOU WANTED TO GET TO 87, YOU WOULD GO ALL THE WAY NORTH THROUGH LEY ALL THE WAY UP, SAW MILLER ROAD TO GET TO 2 87 TO GO BACK DOWN SOUTH.
IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT.
YOUR TRUCK, YOUR GPS, WHATEVER IT'S GONNA DO, IT'S GONNA TAKE YOU TO YOUR CLOSEST DIRECTION AND THOSE ARE THE TWO CLOSEST DIRECTIONS.
UM, HOWEVER, WANTED TO GO NORTH, YOU, YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY, YOU HAVE TO GO SOUTH, YOU WOULD GO SOUTH TO TUCKAHOE ROAD AND THEN GO NORTH.
WHAT STOPS A TRUCK DRIVER FROM GOING NORTH ALL THE WAY UP TO ONE 19, ET CETERA.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO WORK WITH WITH THE APPLICANT TO TRY TO PUT THOSE RESTRICTIONS ON AND TRY TO ENCOURAGE THE DRIVERS TO USE THOSE LOCATIONS.
A HUNDRED PERCENT UNDERSTOOD THE CONCERN.
IT'S A VALID ONE AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY EXPLORE AND TRY TO FIGURE OUT, UH, COLLECTIVELY SOME WAYS TO, UM, REALLY STREAMLINE THAT AND NARROW THAT DOWN.
UH, JUST WANTED TO, JUST TO INDICATE TO THE BOARD THAT WE DO HAVE, AFTER THE APPLICANT'S COMPLETES THIS PRESENTATION, WE DO HAVE JOHN CANNING, UH, ON THE CALL.
HE'S ON ZOOM THIS EVENING SO HE CAN SPEAK TO THE BOARD ABOUT WHAT HE'S REVIEWED TO DATE, WHAT STILL MAY BE OUTSTANDING.
WE WERE HAPPY TO HEAR THAT HE WAS GONNA BE HERE.
IF I COULD JUST HAVE TWO MORE MINUTES.
YEAH, JUST, UH, TWO MORE SECONDS.
UH, TOUCH ON SOME LANDSCAPING AND THE AESTHETICS OF THE BUILDING TOO.
THERE'S A ROBUST LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT WAS INCLUDED IN, UH, THE PACKAGE AS WELL.
UM, LANDSCAPING ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND IT'S A WAREHOUSE, IT'S A, IT'S A BUILDING THAT'S GONNA BE FRONTING ALONG SOME OVER THE ROAD.
THERE WAS A LOT OF THOUGHT PROCESS THAT WENT INTO WHAT CAN BE DONE WITH LANDSCAPING AND THEN THE ARCHITECTURE OF THE BUILDING.
IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THERE'S A COUPLE OF VIEWS THAT WERE INCLUDED IN HERE TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA ON THE ARCHITECTURE AND THE ARTICULATIONS.
THIS IS JUST ONE CORNER OF THE BUILDING TO SHOW YOU KIND OF WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE BUILDING ITSELF AND THEN THE LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
UM, SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS NOTED.
AS JENNIFER HAD INDICATED, THERE ARE SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY.
IT IS NOT ALONG THE ENTIRE FRONTAGE OF THE PROPERTY AS OF RIGHT NOW, IT'S REALLY FOCUSED ON SOME LIMITED AREAS WHERE PEOPLE WITHIN THE BUILDING COULD HAVE ACCESS TO THE BUS STOP.
THERE ARE BUS STOPS DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF OUR SITE AND ALONG OUR FRONTAGE.
SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE ALL THAT WORKS TOGETHER.
SO THERE ARE SIDEWALKS THAT ARE BEING PROPOSED IN VERY STRATEGIC LOCATIONS TO GIVE, UM, EMPLOYEES AND PEOPLE TO COMING TO AND FROM THIS FACILITY AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION AND, AND HAVE THE SIDEWALK ACCESS DIRECTLY.
ARE, ARE THERE ANY MAPS OF WHERE THE SIDEWALKS ARE PROPOSED? AND IF NOT, COULD YOU HAVE THEM READY FOR NEXT TIME? CERTAINLY WE CAN, WE CAN PULL SOMETHING UP AND I DON'T, THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE HIGHLIGHTED, SO WE'LL PULL, WE COULD CERTAINLY PULL SOMETHING UP AND SHOW YOU WHERE THEY ARE FOR SURE.
AND, AND REMIND ME IS, IS NINE A IS THE ENTIRETY OF THE ROAD OR THE SAW RIVER ROAD IS THE ENTIRETY OF THE ROAD ON THE PRIORITY SIDEWALK LIST OR? YES.
SO WITHIN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, UH, IT IDENTIFIES AREAS FOR PRIORITY SIDEWALK INSTALLATION WHERE PERHAPS NONE EXIST.
UM, AND OUR DESIRED NINE A IN THIS AREA OF TOWN, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, FALLS WITHIN A PRIORITY SIDEWALK AREA, IDENTIFIED AREA THE ENTIRE STRETCH.
I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH AGAIN ON THOSE POINTS RIGHT THERE.
IF YOU COULD IN THE SLIDES, UM, IT DID INDICATE, UH, AT LEAST A BULLET THAT THERE WOULD BE SOME ENERGY EFFICIENT, UM, YOU KNOW, MATTERS WITH RESPECT TO THE PROPOSAL.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE A LISTING OR IF YOU COULD INDICATE WHAT TYPE OF FEATURES WOULD BE PROVIDED IN CONNECTION WITH THE PROJECT.
YEAH, FROM AN ENERGY EFFICIENCY STANDPOINT.
SO IT, IT, AGAIN, FINAL DETAILS OF IT BECAUSE THERE'S NO TENANT SPECIFIC FOR THE BUILDING YET.
SO WE'RE LOOKING REALLY AT THE CORN SHELL.
OBVIOUSLY IT MEETS ALL ENERGY CODE REQUIREMENTS, ALL OF THE STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY ANY TYPE OF BUILDING CODE.
UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ALSO BEING CONSTRUCTED, UH, CONSTRUCTED ON THE PROPERTY AS WELL.
UM, THERE'S A COMPREHENSIVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT REPORTS, UM, SO THERE'S A LOT
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OF IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE BEING DONE FROM THAT STANDPOINT.I DON'T HAVE A SPECIFIC LIST FOR YOU, AARON, BUT WE COULD PUT SOMETHING TOGETHER THAT SPEAKS TO SOME OF THOSE VERY SPECIFIC ENERGY IMPROVEMENTS THAT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED, BUT IT'S PRIMARILY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE CODE AND THE ZONING AND THE STATE REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN PUT IN PLACE.
AND, AND THIS IS PROBABLY A QUESTION FOR AMANDA.
SO THIS IS BEING PROPOSED AS A WAREHOUSE DISTINCT FROM A DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
AND, AND NOT ONLY IS THIS BEING PROPOSED AS A WAREHOUSE, BUT IF IT WERE TO BE PROPOSED AS THE DISTRIBUTION CENTER, IS IT CORRECT, THAT WOULD REQUIRE A SPECIAL PERMIT? THAT'S CORRECT.
IS NOT BEING SOUGHT AT THIS TIME? THAT'S CORRECT.
SO ANY MODIFICATION LIKE THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO COME BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD.
ONE QUESTION I BELIEVE LESLIE HAD POSED PREVIOUSLY, JUST TO THROW IT OUT THERE NOW TO MAYBE GET YOU, UM, THINKING ABOUT IT, UH, SHE HAD ASKED ABOUT DATA ON HOW LONG, UM, YOUR TYPICAL GOODS OR THINGS THAT ARE STORED WITHIN THE WAREHOUSE AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S READILY AVAILABLE, BUT SHE HAD, SHE BROUGHT IT UP IN CONVERSATION STAFF.
UM, JUST TO KIND OF GET A SENSE OF HOW FREQUENTLY, UM, MAYBE TO CORRELATE WITH THE TRUCK TRIPS.
YEAH, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT.
I HAVE TO IMAGINE, AND I'M SPECULATING A LITTLE BIT THAT THAT'S REALLY TENANT SPECIFIC DEPENDING ON WHO IT IS.
UM, BUT I'M SURE THERE'S SOME DATA THAT CAN BE PUT TOGETHER ABOUT SOME GENERAL TIMEFRAMES AND STUFF LIKE THAT THAT WE CAN LOOK AT, RAISE IT EVEN THOUGH IF SHE'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.
UM, AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, WHEN YOU SPOKE ABOUT THE COMPARISON TO OFFICE USE, WERE YOU TALKING ABOUT A COMPARISON ONLY DURING PEAK TIMES OR OVERALL? BOTH.
SO WHEN YOU LOOK AT IF, UH, IF YOU LOOK WITHIN THE TRAFFIC STUDY ITSELF, THERE IS A CHART THAT SEPARATES THAT.
UM, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT, UH, OVERALL IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY LESS, BUT ALSO DURING THOSE PEAK HOURS BECAUSE IN OFFICE USE AGAIN, HAS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC DURING THOSE PKMP OR PM HOURS WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO AND FROM THE OFFICE.
SO IT IS A SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION, BUT AGAIN, CAN'T EMPHASIZE IT ENOUGH.
WE DIDN'T TAKE CREDIT FOR THAT IN THE ANALYSIS.
THE ANALYSIS LOOKED AT A VACANT BUILDING, A VACANT OFFICE PARK TO REALLY VACANT LAND.
WE JUST TOOK THOSE PROPOSED VOLUMES AND LAYERED IT ON AFTER THAT.
UM, UM, SORRY, I HAVE A QUESTION
SO I, I THINK SOMEBODY PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED YOU'RE ACROSS THE ROAD FROM THE APARTMENT, THERE'S A BUNCH OF APARTMENT BUILDINGS ACROSS THE ROAD.
AND YOU ARE UP SLOPE OF THEM, RIGHT? AND THEY'RE ALONG SAWMILL RIVER.
SO, AND I THINK YOU JUST SAID YOU'RE ADDING MORE IMPERVIOUS.
SO FROM THE STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PERSPECTIVE, WHAT ADDED RISK IS THERE TO THE, THOSE APARTMENT BUILDINGS? 'CAUSE THEY RIGHT ON THE SAWMILL RIVER, RIGHT? AND THEN YOU'RE FLOWING MORE WATER DOWN INTO THEM.
ONE, YES, WE ADDING IMPERVIOUS, WE ARE ADDING IMPERVIOUS AREA AS A RESULT OF THIS PROJECT.
THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS AREA, BUT WE ARE ADDING IMPERVIOUS AREA AS PART OF THAT REQUIREMENT.
THE TOWN AND THE STATE HAS REQUIREMENTS WHERE WE HAVE TO DEVELOP A STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN, WHICH LOOKS AT THAT NEW IMPERVIOUS AREA.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, THERE IS A NUMBER OF STORMWATER IMPROVEMENTS THAT CONSIST OF UNDERGROUND INFILTRATION CHAMBERS, UH, DETENTION SYSTEMS, THINGS THAT COLLECT AND HOLD WATER ON SITE BECAUSE WE CANNOT RELEASE WATER AT A HIGHER RATE THAN WHAT IT IS UNDER THE EXISTING CONDITION RIGHT NOW.
BUT ARE YOU, ARE YOU, ARE YOU MEETING STANDARDS OF LIKE 10 YEAR, 25 YEAR, 50 YEAR, A HUNDRED YEAR, A HUNDRED YEAR STORM? YEP.
IF A HUNDRED YEAR STORM IS WHAT THE REQUIREMENT IS.
SO THERE'S NO INCREASE IN RATES OF RUNOFF COMING OFF THIS PROPERTY DURING THE A HUNDRED YEAR STORM.
THERE'S VERY SPECIFIC DISCHARGE POINTS TO OFF THIS PROPERTY.
THERE'S DRAINAGE SYSTEMS WHICH CONNECT DIRECTLY INTO THIS PROPERTY THAT DISCHARGE THROUGH AND THEN DIRECTLY INTO THE SOMA RIVER ITSELF.
EXCUSE ME, A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UM, ONE, AND I THINK YOU MENTIONED THIS, BUT JUST TO REITERATE, THE SITE CURRENTLY TODAY, PRESENTLY COMPLETELY NOT OCCUPIEDS ALL WHATSOEVER PERCENT VACANT.
IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT VACANT.
UM, SO JUST TALKING ABOUT, EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT TAKING CREDIT, BUT LOOKING AT THE OFFICE SPACE, WHAT COULD BE BUILT OUT TODAY? THERE'S ZERO TRAFFIC EITHER COMING TO OR LEAVING.
UM, TWO, YOU TALKED ABOUT OUTREACH TO, UH, THE LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES, UM, THE STATE.
HAVE YOU HAD ANY DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THE COUNTY RELATIVE TO THEIR BUILDING, UH, TO THE NORTH OF THE SITE? JUST THE FACT THAT THIS PROPOSAL'S IN PLAY.
WE, WE WILL HAVE COMMUNICATION.
WE HAVE NOT YET, AT LEAST NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT WE HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THEM DIRECTLY, BUT WE WOULD HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT.
YEAH, THERE IS AN EASEMENT THERE FOR THAT NORTHERN SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THE DRIVEWAY IS SITUATED.
UM, THEY STILL HAVE THE DIRECT ACCESS JUST AS THEY DO TODAY.
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WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT THAT.AND IF YOU DO MAKE ANY WRITTEN COMMUNICATION, YOU KNOW, COPY THE TOWN JUST SO WE'RE MADE AWARE OF IT.
SIMILARLY, HAS THERE BEEN ANY DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THE APARTMENT COMPLEX OR BUILDINGS ACROSS THE STREET ON NINE A? THERE HAS NOT TO DATE, BUT I DID RECEIVE, UH, CONTACT INFORMATION FROM UH, HASTINGS VILLAGE OFFICIALS AND WE DO PLAN TO REACH OUT, UM, AND HAVE DIRECT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM AS WELL.
SO AGAIN, IF IT'S WRITTEN, JUST WE WOULD APPRECIATE BEING COPIED.
NO, I SAY, SO WE HAVE ABOUT 15 MINUTES LEFT FOR THIS DISCUSSION.
WE DO HAVE JOHN CANNING ON THE LINE.
ARE THERE ANY BURNING QUESTIONS HERE OR DO WE WANNA HEAR FROM JOHN CANNING? SHOULD WE HEAR FROM? I THINK IT WOULD BE BEST TO HEAR FROM MR. CANNING JUST BECAUSE IF THERE ARE ANY COMMENTS RELATED TO TRAFFIC OR WHAT HE'S TAKING A LOOK AT.
JOHN COULD PROBABLY SUM THINGS UP IN A FEW MINUTES.
MINE GIVE THE BOARD MINE IS MORE, UH, YOU SAID 15 MINUTES, RIGHT? 15 1 5.
I CAN HAVE IT UP IN 10 MINUTES.
YEAH, LET, LET'S HEAR FROM JOHN AND THEN I I PROMISE WE'LL GIVE YOU NO, I SAID I WANT, MY COMMENT IS NOT TRAFFIC RELATED AT ALL, SO, OKAY.
SO LET, SO LET'S HEAR FROM JOHN AND THEN WE'LL WE'LL COME BACK, WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU.
AND I WANT THE BOARD TO UNDERSTAND THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT THE APPLICANT'S AWARE, THE TOWN BOARD'S AWARE STAFF IS AWARE THAT THE PLANNING BOARD IS GONNA TAKE A FEW MEETINGS AT A MINIMUM TO WORK THROUGH AND GET TO A POINT WHERE IT'S READY TO ISSUE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO DON'T THINK YOU'VE GOTTA ASK YOUR QUESTIONS TONIGHT AND THERE MUST BE ANSWERS BECAUSE STAFF'S GONNA PREPARE A RECOMMENDATION FOR NEXT MEETING.
SO I JUST WANTED YOU TO, TO GIVE THE BOARD SOME COMFORT THERE.
ALL RIGHT, MR. JOHN? YEAH, HE NEEDS GOOD EVENING.
UH, GOOD, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.
UM, SO, UM, A LOT HAS ALREADY BEEN SET SAID ON THE TRAFFIC.
OBVIOUSLY IT'S AN EXISTING DEVELOPED OFFICE BUILDING THAT HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPED AS AN OFFICE BUILDING FOR, I DON'T KNOW, 15, 20 YEARS MAYBE.
UM, IS PROPOSED TO CONVERT IT TO A NON LAST MILE DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED A TRAFFIC STUDY.
I'VE REVIEWED THE TRAFFIC STUDY, PROVIDED COMMENTS TO THEM.
THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID IDENTIFY A NUMBER OF ISSUES.
SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED, SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP HERE ALREADY AT THE MEETING TONIGHT.
I'M JUST GONNA RUN QUICKLY DOWN THROUGH THE, MY LIST OF ITEMS FOR MY MOST RECENT SUBMISSION TO YOU.
UH, THE TRAFFIC STUDY DID IDENTIFY THAT, UM, THERE HAVE BEEN A MODEST NUMBER OF ACCIDENTS AT THE INTERSECTION OF LAWRENCE STREET WITH SAW RIVER ROAD, SOME IN THE NORTHBOUND DIRECTION.
IT'S NOT PARTICULARLY EASY TO SEE THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL WHEN YOU'RE TRAVELING NORTHBOUND ON SAWMILL RIVER ROAD TOWARDS THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AT LAWRENCE STREET AND THERE IS NO SIGNAL AHEAD WARNING SIGN AND THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WILL PUT THAT SIGN UP.
UM, THE APPLICANT IS ADDING TRAFFIC, UH, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A MODEST AMOUNT TO LAWRENCE STREET AND THE LAWRENCE STREET APPROACH TO THE SAWMILL RIVER PARKWAY, UH, HAS EXHIBITED PROBLEMS IN THE RECENT PAST.
BASICALLY CARS DRIVING DOWN THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD TO GET TO THE TRAFFIC LIGHT AND THE TOWN HAS COMMENCED, UM, AN EXERCISE TO SEE IF IT CAN EVALUATE HOW THAT CAN BE ALLEVIATED.
THE APPLICANT AND, UH, DIEGO AND, AND JENNIFER, YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M MISSPEAKING HERE, HAS INDICATED THAT THEY WOULD CONSIDER MAKING A FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTION TOWARDS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ANY RECOMMENDED IMPROVEMENTS AT THAT LOCATION.
UH, THE NEXT ITEM UP ARE SIDEWALKS.
AND, UM, BASED ON MY REVIEW OF FIGURE ONE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE FIGURE NINE POINT, ONE OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, ALL OF NINE A IN THIS AREA IS A, UH, PRIORITY SIDEWALK AREA.
THE APPLICANT HAS INDICATED THAT IT IS, I'M PARAPHRASING TWO, DIFFICULT TO PROVIDE A SIDEWALK ON THEIR SIDE OF THE PROPERTY AT THE SOUTH, SOUTHERN HALF OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE OF UTILITIES AND GRADE AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
UM, MY POSITION IS IF THEY WANT, UH, TO DISPROVE THAT ABILITY, A CONCEPT PLAN WOULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARDS IT.
BASICALLY AT THIS STAGE, THEY'RE JUST STANDING UP IN FRONT OF US AND TELLING US, SHOWING US SOME PHOTOGRAPHS AND SAYING IT CAN'T BE DONE.
AND THE REASON I SAY THAT IS IF WE DON'T DO THIS NOW, WHEN ARE WE LIKELY TO DO IT? SO I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE THE BOARD TO ASK THE APPLICANT FOR A PLAN TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO DO IT SO THAT EVERYBODY CAN HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING AS TO WHETHER IT'S FEASIBLE, NOT FEASIBLE OR SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN.
THAT'S IN FRONT OF THE, UH, PROPERTY.
UM, THERE, THERE'S ALSO THE AREA TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY IN FRONT OF WESTCHESTER COUNTY PARKS BUILDING WHERE THERE IS NO SIDEWALK AND IT'S A LOT FLATTER THERE.
THE APPLICANT HAS ACTUALLY INDICATED, AND AGAIN DIEGO AND JENNIFER, UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M MISSPEAKING, UH, THEY HAVE, THEY HAVE INDICATED THEY WILL EXPLORE WHETHER
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IT IS FEASIBLE AND REASONABLE TO INSTALL A SIDEWALK BETWEEN LAWRENCE STREET AND THE NORTHERN END OF THE PROP PROPERTY AND CONSIDER MAKING A FAIR SHARE CONTRIBUTION TO THE DESIGN, UH, CONSTRUCTION OF SUCH A SIDEWALK IF IT IS PURSUED.IT'S A, A SOMEWHAT DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCE TO THE FACT THAT YOU, YOU HAVE A PROPERTY THAT'S GOING RIGHT, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ROAD AND YOU HAVE THE PROPERTY CONTROL OF THE PROPERTY IN FRONT OF IT, WHEREAS TO THE NORTH OF THE SIDE IT'S IN FRONT OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY THE APPLICANT HAS MAINTAINED.
AND THEY ARE CORRECT IN THAT REGARD THAT IT'S UNLIKELY THAT THIS PROJECT IS GOING TO GENERATE A LOT OF PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, BUT WHATEVER PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC IS THERE WOULD BENEFIT FROM A SIDEWALK.
AND IT IS PART OF THE TOWN'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN.
UM, THE APPLICANT DID INDICATE AND MAYBE IT'S MY MISTAKE, UH, NEXT TIME, UH, OR THAT'S GOOD, THANKS.
UM, THE APPLICANT INDICATED THEY PROVIDED A VERTICAL SIMULATION OF THE DRIVEWAY 'CAUSE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE KIND OF STEEP.
I I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN TRACTOR TRAILERS GO IN THERE, THEY DON'T GET, GET HUNG UP ON THEM.
I HAVE NOT SEEN THEM, BUT IT COULD BE THAT I HAVE NOT, UH, JUST FOUND IT IN MY EMAILS.
I DID GIVE IT A QUICK LOOK TONIGHT.
UM, THE, THERE ARE TWO PRIMARY DRIVEWAYS.
SO THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY IS, UH, LIMITED IN ITS ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE LARGE TRACTOR TRAILERS MAKING A RIGHT TURNOUT 'CAUSE THEY SWING VERY WIDE AND THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY IS RIGHT ON THE PROPERTY LINE.
SO THERE'S NO ABILITY TO, NO REAL ABILITY TO MAKE IMPROVEMENTS TO US.
SO THE SOLUTION IS TO PROHIBIT RIGHT TURNS OUT OF THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY AND REQUIRE 'EM TO GO WITH THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY, WHICH IS ACCEPTABLE.
IT'S ALSO PROPOSED TO MAKE SOME TURNING MOVEMENT RESTRICTIONS AT THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY.
UM, PRIMARILY BECAUSE, UH, THERE IS A STANDARD THAT IF YOU ADD MORE THAN FIVE VEHICULAR TRIPS LEFT TURNS TO A ROADWAY THAT'S BUSY, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE A LEFT TURN LANE.
THAT IS IN FACT THE CASE HERE.
AND THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO PROVIDE A LEFT TURN LANE AT THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY.
THEY WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO PROVIDE A LEFT TURN LANE AT THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY IF THEY ALLOWED LEFT TURNS THERE AND THEY MAY NOT HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THEY PREFER TO PROVIDE ONLY ONE LEFT TURN RIGHT LANE RATHER THAN TWO.
SO LEFT TURNS SOUTHBOUND LEFT TURNS AT THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY ARE PROHIBITED.
SO AS A RESULT AT THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY, YOU HAVE LEFT TURNS IN RIGHT, TURNS IN, LEFT TURNS OUT, UH, FOR TRACTOR TRAILERS AND AT THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY YOU'VE GOT RIGHT TURNS IN LEFT, TURNS OUT RIGHT, TURNS OUT FOR TRACTOR TRAILERS, NO LEFT TURNS AT ALL IN AT THE SOUTHERN DRIVEWAY.
UM, THE APPLICANT HAS PROVIDED SIGNAGE ON THEIR PLANS THAT ADDRESS MOST OF THE, THE ISSUES BECAUSE YOU WANT TO CAP, YOU WANNA INTERCEPT TRACTOR TRAILERS BEFORE THEY GET DOWN TO THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN THEY WANNA MAKE A TURN THAT'S DIFFICULT, THE RIGHT TURN AT THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY.
UH, SO I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THEM ON THAT AND I HAVE ASKED THEM TO THINK ABOUT WHETHER IT WOULD BE FEASIBLE FROM THE OPERATION OF THE FACILITY AND ALSO FROM, UH, THE GENERAL TRAFFIC OPERATION FOR THE ROADWAY.
IF THE NORTHERN DRIVEWAY WAS MADE THE ENTRANCE ONLY DRIVEWAY FOR TRUCKS FROM THE SITE AND THE EXIT WAS, UH, AT THE SOUTH, THAT WAY YOU'D HAVE A SORT OF A CLOCKWISE CIRCULATION OF TRUCKS THROUGH THE SITE.
I'M NOT SAYING IT'S MANDATED, I'M JUST SAYING THAT IF THEY COULD LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA, IF IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR EVERYBODY, WE'LL DO IT.
IF IT'S NOT A GOOD IDEA, WE WON'T DO IT.
UH, THE NEXT COMMENT IS, UH, WAS RAISED BY, I THINK IT WAS THE CHAIRMAN, ABOUT WHAT'S TO STOP TRACTOR TRAILERS MAKING A RIGHT OUT OF THE SOUTH DRIVEWAY AND JUST DRIVING UP NINE A TO MAKE A LEFT ON ONE 19 TO GET ON 2 87 BECAUSE I KNOW I DON'T WANT TO GO SOUTH TO GO NORTH AND I'M SURE THE DRIVERS DON'T.
AND, AND IT MAY BE THAT THEIR GPS WILL NEED THEM THAT WAY.
UM, AND IT'S, IT'S LESS PROBLEMATIC IN THE NORTHBOUND DIRECTION THAN IT IS IN THE SOUTHBOUND DIRECTION BECAUSE ONCE YOU MAKE A RIGHT TURN OUT OF THE SITE, IT'S A RELATIVELY STRAIGHT SHOT UP TO ONE 19.
AND WHEN YOU MAKE A LEFT TURN FROM ONE 19 TO GET ON 2 87, WELL FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU'RE GETTING ON 2 87 GOING EASTBOUND, YOU JUST GO STRAIGHT AND YOU MAKE THE TURN LIKE ALL OF THE OTHER HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TRUCKS THAT DO THERE EVERY DAY.
UH, TO GO EASTBOUND AND TO GO WESTBOUND, IT'S A RELATIVELY WIDE UH, TURN BECAUSE YOU'RE TURNING FROM THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD TO THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE ROAD AND THERE'S TWO LANES IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
IT'S ALMOST, WELL IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.
THERE'S NO WAY YOU'RE GONNA GET OFF 2 87 GOING EASTBOUND, COME DOWN ONE 19 MAKE AND MAKE A RIGHT TURN AT AT NINE A 'CAUSE THE TURNING RADIUS THERE IS ABOUT 10 FEET.
THE BUILDING IS ALMOST OUT TO THE CORNER.
SO I WOULD HATE TO SEE, UH, VEHICLES GET HUNG UP THERE.
AND THEN THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO GET OFF
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IN TARRYTOWN, WHICH THEY COULD DO, GO DOWN ROUTE NINE, MAKE A LEFT TURN AT ASHFORD AVENUE AND THEN THEY'D END UP ON ASHFORD AVENUE AT SUMMER RIVER ROAD.AND THAT RIGHT TURN IS THE PICNIC.
EITHER IT'S BETTER THAN IN ELMSFORD, BUT I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S GOOD.
THE INTERESTING THING IS THE APPLICANT HAD THE DOT BLESS THE SOUTHERN PORTION OF ROUTE NINE A FROM THE SITE DOWN TO TUCKAHOE ROAD AS BEING ACCEPTABLE FOR LARGER TRACTOR TRAILERS.
UM, AND BY DEFINITION, UM, ALL ROADWAYS WITHIN A MILE OF THE EXIT OF AN INTERSTATE FACILITY.
SO EXIT SEVEN AND LEY ARE PERMITTED TO BE USED BY LARGER TRACTOR TRAILERS.
SO THAT WAS GOOD FROM THE PERSPECTIVE THAT THEY CAN NOW HAVE TRACTOR TRAILERS LEGITIMATELY LEAD THEIR SITE AND GO DOWN SOUTH ON NINE A TO GET ON TUCKAHOE ROAD AND THEN GET ON 87 OVER ON TUCKAHOE ROAD.
UM, IN LOOKING AT WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE VILLAGE OF LEY, ALL, ALMOST ALL OF THE VILLAGE OF LEY IS IT'S WITHIN ONE MILE OF EXIT SEVEN.
SO TRUCKS CAN EITHER COME OUT OF THIS FACILITY OR GET OFF OF, UH, 2 87, UH, UH, OF 87 AND MAKE A RIGHT TURN GO THROUGH LEY UP NINE A.
AS FAR AS SYLVAN AVENUE, SYLVIA, I THINK IT'S SYLVIA AVENUE.
ONCE THEY GO BEYOND SYLVIA AVENUE, THE LARGER TRUCKS ARE ILLEGAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE AN ENFORCEMENT ISSUE.
IT IS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AND THEN WHEN YOU GET OFF 2 87 IN ELMSFORD, YOU CAN COME DOWN NINE A AS FAR AS WORTHINGTON ROAD AND THEN AFTERWARD IN ROAD AGAIN YOU'RE ILLEGAL.
I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THE APPLICANT WORK WITH THE BOARD TO SEE WHAT MEASURES WE CAN IMPLEMENT BECAUSE THE TENANTS ARE NOT THE APPLICANTS.
SO, UH, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE WHAT MEASURES COULD BE ADOPTED THAT WOULD BE EFFECTIVE AT PREVENTING TRUCKS FROM GOING UP AND DOWN NINE A NORTH OF, UH, OF THE VILLAGE OF LEY OR EVEN ACROSS ASHFORD AVENUE.
UM, I KNOW I'M EATING INTO YOUR TIME.
AND THERE WAS AN ISSUE ABOUT THE UPPER PARKING AREA AND I THINK AGAIN, THE, THE APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT IT'S A LOW VOLUME WAREHOUSE.
UH, MOTORISTS ARE GONNA DRIVE TO THE UPPER PARKING AREA, GET IN THEIR TRUCKS, AND THEN DRIVE THEM OUT.
AND WHEN THEY COME BACK THEY'LL DO THE SAME THING.
SO THERE'LL BE VERY FEW PEDESTRIANS WALKING INTERNALLY TO THE SIDE.
UM, THE BOARD MAY WISH TO SEE IF THE APPLICANT WORK OUT SOME LANGUAGE THAT WOULD MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S KIND OF WHAT HAPPENS.
AND THEN THE LAST THING IS SIDELINES.
WE'VE LOOKED AT THE SIDELINES, THE SIDELINES ARE ADEQUATE, BUT THE APPLICANT WILL BE PRUNING BACK SOME OF THE VEGETATION TO MAKE SURE THAT STAYS WITH THE CASE.
UM, IT IS A, A RE OCCUPANCY OF AN EXISTING USE, BUT IT'S A BIG RE OCCUPANCY SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IT GETS, UH, IT'S DUE CONSIDERATION AND I AM HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE AND TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU AND WITH THE APPLICANT AS WE REVIEW THE VARIOUS ISSUES THAT ARE IDENTIFIED.
CAN I GO NOW? ALRIGHT, SO NOW I START.
ALRIGHT, RECOGNIZING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS WILL NOT BE THE LAST TIME, UH, FOR QUESTION AND CONVERSATION MR. DESAI, GIVE US YOUR, UH, YOUR, YOUR MOST PRESSING THOUGHTS.
I KNOW I WAS, I KNOW, SIR, I DIDN'T GET IT ANYWHERE.
SO I DON'T KNOW, I'M, I'M JUST SORT OF LISTENING TO CANIN.
IT'S BEAUTIFULLY ANALYZED AND PROPOSED, BUT I CANNOT UNDERSTAND ANYONE ASK QUESTIONS WHAT THE WHOLE ISSUE IS ABOUT.
UH, BESIDES THAT, I MEAN, TRAFFIC IS OF COURSE, UH, GOING TO BE RESOLVED AND, UH, GONNA BE SOLVED SOONER OR LATER, OF COURSE.
UH, OTHER THING IS THAT I'M, UH, WHAT IS THE SIZE OF THIS MONSTROUS FACILITY? PROPOSED HEIGHT, UH, WEIGHT.
I MEAN IT LOOKS LIKE A COUPLE OF, UH, FOOTBALL FIELD AND
SO
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UH, UH, YOU HAVING EVEN ONE OF THE TRACTOR TRAILER IS, IS A BIG, BIG ISSUE.UH, JOHN, I MEAN, I LIVE, UH, VERY CLOSE.
UH, AND, AND IT IS, UH, 80 IS TWO, THEY JUST SAY ONLY FIVE OR SEVEN TRACTOR TRAILERS IS TOO MANY.
I MEAN, ONE TRACTOR TRAILER GETS STUCK ON IT AND YOU CAN CLOSE DOWN THE WHOLE, UH, VILLAGE OF ARTS LEE AND ELFORD.
AND THERE IS NO OTHER ACCESS TO GO ONTO THE, UH, ANY OF THESE OTHER SHOPPING AREAS THAT PEOPLE GO OFF OF.
UH, UH, UH, THE, UH, THE, THE SORT OF MAIN, UH, WHAT'S THE STREET IS, UH, NINE A MM-HMM
NINE A TO GO TO, UH, COSTCO OR TO THE, UH, TO THE STU LEONARD OR OTHER SIDE IS THAT, UH, UH, YOU'RE TALKING JACKSON AVENUE.
AND MOST PEOPLE USE THAT ONE NINE A TO GO BACK AND FORTH.
AND, UH, AND OTHER THING IS THAT THE NINE A FLOODS EVERY TIME THERE IS A LITTLE WATER.
SO, UH, AS IT IS, IT'S PRETTY DIFFICULT FOR THE, UH, COMMUNITY TO REALLY GO TO THIS ANY PLACE TO NAVIGATE.
AND THAT AREA BETWEEN ASHFORD AND JACKSON AVENUE IS THE MOST FLOOD PRONE AREA.
AND IF YOU'RE GONNA PUT AN 18 WHEELER IN THAT AREA, YOU HAVE TO PROVE US THAT IT WOULD BE, UH, IT, IT WON'T BE, UH, A SERIOUS PROBLEM.
AND, UM, WANTED TO KIND OF JUST, NOT ONLY THE THINGS, BUT THAT YOU ARE REALLY, UH, UH, SHUTTING DOWN THE WHOLE
AND ALSO THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE HASTINGS AND LEY AND UH, UH, GOING TOWARD THE JACKSON AVENUE, CONNECTING TO THE YONKERS ON OTHER SIDE.
SO THIS IS A KIND OF ALMOST LIKE A LIFELINE OF THE WHOLE COMMUNITY AROUND.
SO, UH, UH, SO IT, IT'S JUST NEEDS TO BE REALLY, UH, THOUGHT ABOUT IT.
AND, UH, THE, WHATEVER RENDERING YOU PROVIDED, IT'S LOOKS LIKE, UH, IT'S AT LEAST 60 FEET FROM THE SIDEWALK OR THE STREET.
AND SO HOW YOU GONNA BE TREATING? WE HAVE ALREADY HAVE A COUPLE OF, UH, UH, DISASTER WHEN THEY BUILD A SHOPRITE AND THEY HAVE BUILT A HUGE 20 FEET, UH, CASTLE OVER THERE.
THE, THE, THE RETAINING WALL TO BUILD THAT, UH, UH, THEIR PARKING LOT UP ON THE ELMSFORD END OF, UH, ALMOST, UH, ACROSS FROM THE SAM'S CLUB.
AND, AND IT'S, UH, THIS THING IS, THIS THING IS A, KIND OF REALLY NEEDS A LOT OF WORK AND, AND LOT OF, UH, ADJUSTMENT TO THE PUTTING THIS THING, IT LOOKS LIKE AT LEAST, UH, 800 FEET LONG BY 150 FEET WIDE.
IT, IT'S, UH, THE COMMENTS THAT YOU'RE MAKING ALL UNDERSTOOD.
I THINK THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TO WORK AND TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OKAY.
THERE'S A LOT THAT, UH, YOU HAD INDICATED IN THERE AND I THINK THERE'S A LOT THAT WE NEED TO PEEL BACK.
I DO JUST WANNA TALK ABOUT ONE QUICK THING THAT, BUT BEFORE THAT, JUST REAL QUICKLY TO TOUCH ON WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE SIZE OF THE BUILDING, IT IS PERMITTED PER YOUR CODE.
EVERYTHING IS IN ACCORDANCE WITH IT FROM A COVERAGE STANDPOINT.
A BUILDING HEIGHT, THE BUILDING HEIGHT IS MEASURED AT 45 FEET HIGH, UM, WHICH IS PERMITTED BY THE ZONING ORDINANCE.
SO WE ARE CONFORMING WITH THE VARIOUS CODE REQUIREMENTS.
WE ARE NOT SEEKING ANY VARIANCES.
I JUST THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT.
BUT THE NUMBER OF OTHER COMMENTS REGARDING THE TRAFFIC STUDY, ALL OF THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
THERE WAS A STORMWATER REPORT, A LOT OF INFORMATION WAS SUBMITTED, AND I JUST, UH, AND WE, AND WE WILL HAVE TIME TO PEEL A LOT OF THAT BACK AND ADDRESS A NUMBER OF THOSE CONCERNS AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
MATT, DID YOU WANT TO SPEAK QUICKLY ON THE DISTRIBUTION OF THE DOCUMENTS OR? OH, I WAS, YEAH.
I WAS JUST GONNA SAY THAT THE TRAFFIC STUDY WAS CIRCULATED IN THE ELECTRONIC PACKAGES, BUT IF YOU DO WANT A HARD COPY, WE WOULD GET A HARD COPY.
UM, IT WAS ONLY ONE OUT, JUST DUE TO THE VIBE.
UH, THEN THERE IS A, UH, CROSS SECTIONS THROUGH THE BUILDING, UH, HOW DOES IT SIT ONTO IT? AND THAT'S GREAT.
AND I DON'T SEE THAT IT'S PART OF THIS PACKAGE THAT YOU HAVE SUBMITTED.
DO WE HAVE A CROSS SECTION IN THERE? IF NOT, NO.
IF NOT, WE COULD PROVIDE A CROSS SECTION TO SHOW YOU.
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MEAN, THERE WAS A DETAILED GRADING PLAN, WHICH SHOWS YOU THE ELEVATIONS.UM, BUT A SECTION, IT'S, THAT'S A VALUABLE TOOL, SO WE'LL PROVIDE THAT.
AND, UH, UH, SOME OF THESE OTHER DETAILS ABOUT THE LIGHTING, UH, OF THE WHOLE BIG NEW PARKING LOTS AND ALL THAT STUFF.
AND ALSO HOW DID IS GOING TO BE DURING THE CONSTRUCTION OF THIS MALMO BUILDING, HOW IT'S GOING TO BE STAGED BECAUSE NINE A IS NOT, UH, CAN HANDLE ALL THAT BIG HUGE CONSTRUCTION ON, ON DOING THE THINGS.
ALSO, UH, THE RUNOFF FROM THE PARKING AREAS AND ALL THIS STUFF WHERE THERE IS A, UH, SO IT'S ALL DETAILED.
I'M SURE IT'S GONNA BE TAKEN CARE, BUT, UH, UH, OIL SEPARATIONS AND, AND DIESELS THAT THEY USE, IT'S ALL IN THE PLANTS.
THERE'S A FULL STORMWATER REPORT.
SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT THAT WAS ONE COMMENT I WANTED TO SPEAK TO EARLIER.
SO DUE TO THE SIZE OF THIS, THEY'RE NOT ONLY GONNA TREAT THE QUANTITY OF STORMWATER, BUT ALSO THE QUALITY.
SO JUST NEXT PRESENTATION, TOUCHING ON SOME OF THE WATER.
YEAH, WE'LL GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION ON THAT.
WE'LL SUMMARIZE, UM, THE STORMWATER PLAN THAT WAS PREVI, THAT'S AGAIN INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGE.
UH, WE'LL GET THAT CROSS SECTION, WE'LL GET SOME SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION TOGETHER AND, UM, WE CERTAINLY WILL BE BACK TO, TO WORK A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THIS.
SO, UH, AND, AND LAST QUESTION.
DO YOU, YOU SORRY,
WANNA FINISH UP TWO, ONE MORE.
UH, DO YOU HAVE A, UH, ANY STUDY THAT YOU SAY THAT IS IN, UH, NO OTHER USE WAS VISIBLE OR POSSIBLE, UH, BESIDES THIS WAREHOUSE AND, UH, IF THAT'S THE ONE IT IS HOW THIS WHOLE VOLUME IS GONNA BE, UH, IF IT IS GONNA BE A MULTI-TENANT, THEN IS THERE IS A POSSIBILITY THAT IT COULD BE BROKEN DOWN AND, UH, CREATED A LESSER IMPOSING, UH, SO, UH, FACILITY.
'CAUSE UH, IT IS A PERMITTED USE IN THIS DISTRICT.
AND, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA APPLY THE USE VARIANCE STANDARD TO SHOW THAT NO OTHER, UH, POSSIBLE, UH, DEVELOPMENTS POSSIBLE HERE.
BUT IF THEY HAVE ALREADY DONE IT, THEY CAN SHARE BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COMMENTS WAS.
WELL, I MEAN, THEY DID SHARE SOME OF THE HOURS, SOME OF THE HOURS IN MARKETING.
IF I, I MEAN, JUST QUICKLY THANK YOU AND I MEAN CASE ON POINT AND I'LL LET THE ATTORNEY DEAL WITH THAT.
I THINK WHAT ETHAN WAS EMPHASIZING BEFORE WAS JUST THE FACT THAT THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT EFFORT THAT WENT INTO REOCCUPYING, THIS BUILDING WITH A LIFE SCIENCE USE.
THEY SPENT HOURS AND HOURS OF HOURS OF TIME.
I DON'T BELIEVE ANYBODY EVER MADE A STATEMENT THAT NO OTHER THING CAN BE CONSTRUCTED HERE.
IT WAS SIMPLY THE EFFORT THAT WENT INTO MAKING A LIFE LOOK A QUARTER WAS HERE.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK THE CONCLUSION JUST THE DEMAND IS NOT THERE.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE PIVOTED TO ANOTHER USE KIND OF.
WELL, THE QUESTION IS NOT TO TO THAT IS, UM, HOW'D YOU LAND ON THE 280,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING? LIKE WHAT, 280? YEAH, THE, HOW'D YOU LAND ON THAT SIZE OF WAREHOUSE VERSUS THAT'S THE MAXIMUM FOOTPRINT PERMITTED BY YOUR CODE.
SO, SO IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE FIRST OF MANY CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'LL HAVE ABOUT THIS APPLICATION.
UM, I THINK WE, WE HAVE YOU SCHEDULED NEXT TO COME ON SEPTEMBER 17TH.
DOES THAT, DOES THAT WORK FOR YOU ALL? I DIDN'T KNOW.
YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE PLANNING.
WE HAVE SOME OTHER BIG PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO THANK YOU.
THERE'S SOME OTHER BIG PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO OFFSET.
SO WE DON'T HAVE FOUR MAJOR PROJECTS AND ONLY GIVE YOU 30 MINUTES A PIECE.
WE KNOW THIS WAS CONDENSED DOWN.
WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME THIS EVENING.
WE KNOW YOU HAVE A LOT TO PRESENT AND WE REALLY TRIED TO CONDENSE THAT DOWN.
SO OBVIOUSLY THE BOARD HAS ASKED FOR CERTAIN THINGS FOR YOU TO DETAIL A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE FOLLOW UP AND AT OUR NEXT MEETING, UH, WHERE THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED ON SEPTEMBER 17TH.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH JOHN, OBVIOUSLY ON ANY OTHER OUTSTANDING TRAFFIC COMMENTS AND HOPEFULLY BY THAT MEETING WE COULD COME BACK WITH SOME CONCLUSIONS REGARDING, YOU KNOW, THE TRAFFIC ANALYSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND LAST UP, UH, FOR A WORK SESSION.
I'M SORRY, IF I COULD ASK WHAT, UH, FOR THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING, UM, WHAT'S YOUR SUBMISSION DEADLINE FOR WHEN YOU WANT THOSE MATERIALS? IN BY FOR DISTRIBUTION TO THE BOARD? YEAH.
BUT WE WOULD LIKE ANY RESPONSE FOR MR. CANNING IN AT LEAST TWO WEEKS AHEAD OF TIME.
SO HE HAS A WEEK TO LOOK IT OVER.
IS THERE A MORE RECENT MEMO FOR MR. CANON? 'CAUSE WE HAVE RESPONDED TO HIS, TO ALL COMMENTS WE WENT THROUGH TODAY.
SO WILL WE GET A WRITTEN MEMO OR GET THAT TOO? THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.UH, AND THEN NEXT UP WE HAVE CASE TB 25 0 6 PB 25 23 FAIL.
UH, I'D LIKE TO CALL UP MR. ZIBA, HOW ARE YOU DOING? SO BRIAN IS HERE.
I'M, UH, DO A LITTLE INTRODUCTION.
UM, SO MY NAME'S GLENN ANA, I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF FAIL INDUSTRIES.
UM, I'M HERE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO OUR COMPANY, TO OUR OPERATIONS ON WAREHOUSE LANE AND THEN TO THE SITE, SITE ITSELF.
WE HAVE BEEN OPERATING ON WAREHOUSE LANE SINCE 2002 WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT RENEWS EVERY YEAR.
WE'VE RENEWED THAT PERMIT, UM, FOR THE LAST 20 WHATEVER YEARS IT IS.
UM, WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UM, I'M GONNA SHOW YOU WHAT WE DO.
PLEASE STOP ME AT ANY TIME, ASK ANY QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE, UM, AS I PRESENT YOU THE SITE.
I FIRST LIKE TO SHOW YOU A VIDEO ABOUT SALE INDUSTRIES AND WHAT WE DO.
WE OPERATE SITES IN, UH, IN, UH, GREENBURG, MONTROSE AND FISH GILL, NEW YORK.
SO I NEED TO, I HAVE THE VIDEO HERE.
HOW DO I SHARE? HOW LONG IS THE VIDEO? IT'S, UH, SIX MINUTES QUICK.
CAN YOU MAKE THE SCREEN BIG? JUST, UM, AM I SHARING NOW? YOU ON ZOOM? I'M ON ZOOM.
CAN YOU HIT THE SHARE? HERE YOU GO.
MY GRANDFATHER'S WHEEL QUIA WAS A GREAT BUSINESSMAN.
MY FATHER FOLLOWED IN HIS FOOTSTEPS.
WELL, THAT WAS FAIRLY YOUNG IN THE CONSTRUCTION.
I STARTED LOOKING TO SEE IF IT WAS POSSIBLE.
SO, OH, SO I CAN TURN THAT OFF.
NOW LEMME GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
CAN WE MAKE IT BIGGER, I GUESS? NO.
THERE WE, IT'S MY GRANDFATHER.
G***O PANA WAS A GREAT BUSINESSMAN.
MY FATHER FOLLOWED IN HIS FOOTSTEPS.
WHEN I WAS FAIRLY YOUNG IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY, I STARTED LOOKING TO SEE IF IT WAS POSSIBLE TO GET INTO THE MATERIAL BUSINESS.
THE INDUSTRY HAS COME A LONG WAY SINCE THE EARLY DAYS WHEN I STARTED, THAT'S FOR SURE.
GEORGE HAS MORE KNOWLEDGE OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY THAN ANYONE YOU'LL EVER MEET.
AND AS WE ALL KNOW, GLORIA IS RUNNING THE SHIP AND SHE'S BEEN THERE THE ENTIRE TIME.
AND I CAN'T IMAGINE WHAT WE WOULD'VE DONE WITHOUT HER TO WATCH MY SON TAKE SOMETHING THAT MY HUSBAND STARTED AND MAKE IT BIGGER AND BETTER.
IT'S A WONDERFUL FEELING TO KNOW THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED IN MY FAMILY.
I WENT TO WORK AT SAIL CONSTRUCTION IN THE SUMMER OF FIFTH GRADE, AND IT'S BEEN A FAMILY BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, MY WHOLE CAREER.
WE'RE ALL ABOUT FAMILY QUALITY SERVICE.
I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT WE LIVE FOR.
THAT'S WHAT SEPARATES US FROM EVERYBODY ELSE.
FOR OPERATIONS, I, I MAINLY, YOU KNOW, WORK ON EFFICIENCY.
I'M NEVER HAPPY WITH THE STATUS QUO.
WHAT I LOVE MOST IS HOW DYNAMIC IT IS, HOW EXCITING IT IS, HOW COMPETITIVE WE ARE.
EVERY DAY, EVERY MONTH, EVERY YEAR IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT AND IT NEVER STOPS EVERY DAY.
IT'S EXCITING TO COME TO WORK.
I'VE WORKED FOR A LOT OF COMPANIES AND THERE'S BEEN CULTURE WORDS WRITTEN ON THE WALL, BUT WE'RE NOT JUST WRITING IT ON THE WALL.
THEY ALL JUST REALLY TAKES IT TO ANOTHER LEVEL OF CARING FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES.
FROM MY OPINION, HAVING THE START FROM DONOR PLAN, HE'S A VERY GOOD PERSON.
OUR EMPLOYEES ARE ALL PART OF OUR FAMILY.
I KNOW ALL OF MY EMPLOYEES BY FIRST NAME.
I VISIT OUR EMPLOYEES OUT IN THE FIELD WHEN THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOBS ON THE CRUSHERS.
WHEN I STARTED WITH FAIL, I WAS, UH, 32 YEARS OLD PICKING UP ALL THE GARBAGE THAT THE TRUCKERS THREW.
I ASKED HIM, I SAID, HEY, GLEN, IS THERE ANY
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OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO GROW IN THIS COMPANY? AND HE SAID, YOU CAN DO WHATEVER YOU WANT IN THIS COMPANY AS LONG AS YOU APPLY YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, AND DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO, AND WE'LL SUPPORT YOU.SO THEY'LL GIVE YOU ALL THE TOOLS YOU NEED TO DO WHATEVER YOU HAVE TO, TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
AND I'M A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THAT.
HOW I STARTED, YOU KNOW, PICKING UP PAPERS TO WHERE I'M AT NOW.
I THINK WHAT ONE OF THE FAVORITE MEMORIES WAS WHEN TELL, HIRE ME WHEN I WAS RUNNING FAIL, AND WE WERE, WOULD BE HIRING SOMEBODY NEW.
THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT I LOOKED AT WAS NOT THEIR ABILITIES IN THE INDUSTRY.
I FELT WE COULD TEACH 'EM THAT, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO ME WAS THEIR MORALS AND ETHICS.
IF THEY HAD THAT AND THEY WANTED TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND WORKED HARD, IT WAS EASY TO TEACH THEM.
I'M PROUD TO SAY THAT IN 2020 5, 9 1 4 INC.
MAGAZINE RATED US BEST PLACE TO WORK.
YOU HAVE A GOOD PLACE TO GO TO WORK IN A SAFE ENVIRONMENT, AND YOU GET TO GO HOME IN ONE PIECE.
WHAT THE INDUSTRY HAS ALLOWED ME TO DO WAS WORK AND RAISE A FAMILY AND BE INVOLVED WITH BOTH.
I COACHED EVERY LITTLE LEAGUE TEAM AND SOCCER TEAM, AND IT'S BEEN AN INCREDIBLE JOY TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT AND NOT WORRY ABOUT MISSING WORK OR MISSING FAMILY.
WE REALLY INVEST IN OUR EMPLOYEES.
WE BROUGHT BANKS IN TO TEACH EMPLOYEES ABOUT CREDIT, AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY WE HAVE THREE EMPLOYEES THAT TURN THEIR CREDIT AROUND AND BOUGHT HOUSES FOR THE FIRST TIMES IN THEIR LIVES.
THIS YEAR, GLEN IS DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE, YOU KNOW, TO HELP ALL OF US.
THEY REALLY DO TREAT YOU LIKE FAMILY.
I KNOW I SAY FAMILY A LOT, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT'S ALL ABOUT.
I REALLY THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF YOU TREAT PEOPLE LIKE FAMILY, THEY RESPECT YOU.
ALL THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE WORK, WE ALL WORK TOGETHER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GO ON THESE RETREATS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
WE GO OUT TO EAT, WE TALK, WE TRY TO HELP BUILD EACH OTHER.
WE'RE VERY, VERY LUCKY TO HAVE HIRED PEOPLE WHO MAKE A COM.
THEY'RE THE PEOPLE WHO'VE MADE THE COMPANY GREAT.
I THINK THIS COMPANY IS INNOVATIVE BECAUSE NO MATTER WHAT THEY ADAPT WITH FAIL RIGHT NOW.
WE ARE GROWING, WE'RE EXPANDING.
WE'RE BRINGING IN YOUNGER PEOPLE.
THE FUTURE IN THIS COMPANY IS THE SKY'S THE LIVING MAN.
THERE'S A LOT GOING ON IN THIS COMPANY.
THE FUTURE FOR FAIL IS TO SET IT UP FOR THE NEXT GENERATION.
WE HAVE A LOT OF YOUNG EMPLOYEES THAT ARE COMING IN TO TAKE OUR PLACE RIGHT NOW.
AND THAT'S BEEN MY FOCUS, IS TO GET THIS PLACE SET UP FOR THE NEXT GENERATION SO THEY CAN CONTINUE FOR ANOTHER 40 YEARS.
CONGRATULATIONS, SALE ON YOUR 40TH ANNIVERSARY.
CONGRATULATIONS TO EVERYONE ON THE 40 YEARS CELEBRATING 40 YEARS.
I'M JUST GLAD TO BE PART OF IT.
I SEND YOU MY BEST WISHES AND HOPE FOR A TERRIFIC EVENING CELEBRATING YOUR SUCCESS.
I CONGRATULATE GLEN IAN FAMILY AND EVERYONE, THERE'S A BUNCH OF CONGRATULATIONS.
WE CAN SKIP THAT PART RIGHT NOW, BUT THAT'S AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE ARE.
SO FAIL INDUSTRY IS AN ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY GREEN COMPANY THAT'S DRIVEN BY OUR COMMITMENT TO SAFETY.
PEOPLE GET HURT IN OUR INDUSTRY.
WE OPERATE, UM, WE OPERATE SITES IN GREENBURG, MONTROSE, AND FISH GILL AT ALL OF OUR SITES.
WE START EVERY MEETING WITH SAFETY.
OUR SAFETY RECORD IS BEST IN CLASS.
WE HAVE A 0.59 WORKMAN'S COMP MOD.
UM, WE CONDUCT UNANNOUNCED MOCK SSHA INSPECTIONS EVERY MONTH.
THAT'S FROM THE MINE SAFETY HEALTH ASSOCIATION AT ALL OF OUR FACILITIES UNANNOUNCED EVERY MONTH WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH EVERYONE WE TOUCH, INCLUDING THE NEW YORK STATE DEC WESTCHESTER COUNTY, OUR NEIGHBORS THAT PAUSE CROSS ANIMAL RESCUE.
WE AIM TO CONTINUE OUR ESSENTIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH THE TOWN ADMINISTRATIVE STAFF.
UM, ON A GREAT TERMS GOING FORWARD.
WE'RE HERE TODAY TO TALK ABOUT THE WAREHOUSE LIEN FACILITY.
IN 2002, WE RECEIVED A PERMIT BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO OPERATE A ROCK CRUSHING AND AGGREGATE RECLAMATION FACILITY, AND HAD THIS SPECIAL PERMIT RENEWED EVERY YEAR FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
WE'RE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING IN CONNECTION WITH OUR LATEST SPECIAL PERMIT RENEWAL, WHICH RECEIVED A NEGATIVE DECLARATION UNDER CICA FROM THE ZBA.
AND WE HAVE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT THAT REQUIRED US TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN APPLICATION TO THE TOWN BOARD TO MEMORIALIZE THE CONDITIONS OF THE SITE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
AND THE TOWN BOARD HAS REFERRED US TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
WE ALSO RECEIVED THE NEW YORK STATE, UH, DEC PART 360 PERMIT, UH, TO OPERATE A CONSTRUCTION AND DEMOLITION DEBRIS FACILITY IN 2002.
UM, THE WAREHOUSE LANE FACILITY IS ALSO KNOWN AS A RECYCLING FACILITY AND A VIRTUAL QUARRY.
WE DO WHAT ROAST RECYCLING FACILITIES DO, EXCEPT THAT WE ACT LIKE A QUARRY.
WE KEEP EVERYTHING SEGREGATED.
SO WE, AS I SAY, WE'RE LIKE A HEBREW NATIONAL.
WE OPERATE TO A HIGHER STANDARD.
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REGULATED AND OPERATES UNDER THE FOLLOWING PERMITS.WE OPERATE UNDER THE NEW YORK STATE DEC PART 360 PERMIT TO TURN WASTE INTO REUSABLE ASPHALT.
WE HAVE A NEW YORK STATE STATE, UH, POLLUTION DISCHARGE ELIMINATIONS PERMIT, A SPEEDIES PERMIT, WHICH IS A MULTI-SECTOR PERMIT FOR STORM WATER DISCHARGES ASSOCIATED WITH INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY.
SO WE ARE AN ONGOING FACILITY THAT CONTINUES THIS PERMIT.
WE'VE HAD THIS AGAIN FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
WE HAVE A 239 PAGE DOCUMENT THAT, UH, PETER LOYOLA, UH, OUR ENGINEER WILL TALK ABOUT.
IT MANAGES OUR SOIL AND EROSION CONTROL.
WE DO, UM, QUARTERLY SAMPLING AND REPORTS TO THE DEC HEADQUARTERS.
AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, THIS PERMIT IS, UM, GOVERNED BY DEC HEADQUARTERS ON TARRYTOWN ROAD.
SO THEY'RE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET.
YOU EVER WANT TO CALL 'EM OUT? THEY CAN COME RIGHT DOWN HERE.
WE'RE ON A VERY GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH ALL THE PEOPLE AT THE DEC.
WE ARE ALSO A NEW YORK STATE, DEC REGISTERED CC AND D DEBRIS HANDLING AND RECOVERY REGISTRATION FACILITY WITH ANNUAL REPORTING.
WE HAVE 26 AIR PERMITS WITH WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH, AND THEY DO, AGAIN, MONITORING AND ANNUAL INSPECTIONS.
THERE WE ARE OF A WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH PETROLEUM BELT STORAGE PERMIT FOR THE STORAGE PETROLEUM PRODUCTS, AGAIN WITH ANNUAL INSPECTIONS.
WE HAVE A WESTCHESTER COUNTY SOLID WASTE COMMISSION PERMIT, WHICH OPERATES UNDER THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLABLES COLLECTION LAW.
THEY REGULATE RECYCLING, REQUIRE COMPREHENSIVE BACKGROUND CHECKS ON ALL COMPANIES AND ALL INDIVIDUALS, UM, IN THE INDUSTRY.
AND THEY PERFORM RANDOM INSPECTIONS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
WE ARE REGULATED BY OSHA AS WELL, BUT WE VOLUNTARILY OPERATE UNDER MHA STANDARDS, WHICH ARE MUCH TOUGHER THAN OSHA STANDARDS.
THE FACILITY RECYCLES NON CONTAMINATED EXCAVATED MATERIALS, INCLUDING ROCK, CONCRETE, CONCRETE PRODUCTS, ASPHALT, ASPHALT, MILLING TO MIXED LOADS.
WE ARE NOT PERMITTED BY THE DEC NOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO ACCEPT ANY HAZARDOUS OR CONTAMINATED MATERIAL INCLUDING PETROLEUM CONTAMINATED EARTH FILL OR AGGREGATE.
SO WE ONLY TAKE CLEAN MATERIALS.
WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ON THAT SITE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
AND IN 2022, THE WAREHOUSE LANE RE FACILITY RECYCLED TWO OUT OF EVERY THREE TONS OF MATERIAL EXCAVATED AND RECYCLED IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
THE FACILITY FACILITY RECYCLES MORE THAN TWICE THE AMOUNT OF OUR FOUR COMPETITORS COMBINED.
UM, THE OPERATION WAS DEEMED A CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITY BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES, AS WELL AS THE STATE OF NEW YORK.
UM, THE GOVERNMENT DEFINES THAT AS THEY ARE FACILITIES CONSIDERED SO VITAL TO THE UNITED STATES, THAT THEIR INCAPACITATION OR DESTRUCTION WOULD HAVE A DEBILITATING EFFECT ON SECURITY, NATIONAL ECONOMIC SECURITY, NATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY, OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF.
UM, WE OPERATED CONTINUOUSLY DURING COVID, UM, TAKING MATERIAL FROM TOWN OF GREENBURG.
ALL OF THIS, UM, MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THERE TAKING FROM CONTRACTORS THAT WERE WORKING ON ESSENTIAL INDUSTRIES, UM, WE'RE APPROVED BY CON EDISON TO ACCEPT MATERIALS EXCAVATED ON CON EDISON RELATED PROJECTS.
NONE OF THE OTHER FACILITIES THAT ACCEPT MATERIAL EXCAVATED MATERIAL IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY ARE APPROVED BY CON EDISON TO T TO RECEIVE MATERIAL EXCAVATED FROM THEIR PROJECTS.
SO I'VE GIVEN YOU AN OVERVIEW OF, UM, THA I'LL JUST TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE SITE ITSELF YOU WANT TO PUT UP.
UM, CAN WE PUT UP THE OVERALL SITE PLAN PAGE ONE OF THE SITE PLAN? DO YOU HAVE IT? YOU WANT US TO DO IT? DO ANOTHER SHARE HERE.
SO AS HE'S GETTING I'LL TALK ABOUT IT WITH YOU.
THE, THE FACILITY'S LOCATED THE MIC, IF YOU CAN.
NO, YOU WOULD JUST HAVE TO HIT THAT SHARE SCREEN AND THEN CLICK ON THAT.
THIS IS, THIS IS, SO I'LL KEEP GOING WHILE THEY PULL IT UP.
WE CAN LOOK AT THE PICTURE AFTER.
THE FACILITY IS LOCATED ON SOUTH WAREHOUSE LANE IN A 24 BY SEVEN INDUSTRIAL PARK.
WE'RE LOCATED, UM, JUST DOWN FROM SAM'S CLUB.
UM, CONGRATULATE YOU FOR BEING THE GATEKEEPER IN DUTCH COUNTY FOR ALL THESE YEARS AND SERVING OUR UNION CONTRACTORS, OF WHICH THEY ARE VERY, WE SHOULD CLOSE THAT 17.
GET ALL THESE QUESTIONS IN COMMENTS.
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ON SOUTH WAREHOUSE LANE IN A 24 BY SEVEN INDUSTRIAL PARK WAREHOUSE FACILITY.OUR NEIGHBORS ARE, UM, TO THE EAST BROOKFIELD SCRAP YARD THAT PROCESSES SCRAP METAL AND JUNK CARS.
THE HOUSE FOR THE RECORD, THE HOUSE NEAREST OUR FACILITY IS BEYOND THE BROOKFIELD FACILITY.
UM, TO THE NORTH IS A 24 BY SEVEN WAREHOUSE FACILITY, ONE RENT.
ONE MORNING WE WENT OUT AND COUNTED TRUCKS.
THEIR AVERAGE IS ABOUT ONE TRUCK A MINUTE ENTERING THAT THE, THE WAREHOUSE FACILITY THERE.
UM, OUR FACILITY REPRESENTS APPROXIMATELY 16% OF ALL THE TRUCKS THAT GO THROUGH THAT WAREHOUSE FACILITY.
WE ARE NOT PROPOSING TO INCREASE ANY TRUCK TRAFFIC.
WE'VE BEEN IN OPERATION FOR THE PAST MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
SO THIS IS AN ONGOING OPERATION.
THERE'LL BE NO MORE TRUCKS FROM OUR FACILITY.
UM, TO THE WEST OF US IS THE SAWMILL RIVER PARKWAY, AND TO THE SOUTH OF US IS PAUSE CROSS ANIMAL SHELTER.
WE HAVE A GREAT RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS.
WE ARE HONORED BY PAUSE CROSS, UH, IN 2023.
UM, AND JENNIFER ANKI, THE CEO, WROTE IN A PRESS RELEASE.
WE ARE BEYOND GRATEFUL FOR THE ENTIRE THEME AT THA INDUSTRIES SINCE DAY ONE.
THEY HAVE BEEN THE MOST AMAZING SUPPORTIVE NEIGHBORS HELPING US IN SO MANY CAPACITIES, DONATING ROCKS FOR OUR PLAY YARD, SNOWPLOWING OUR PROPERTY, EVERY SINGLE STORM, USING THEIR EQUIPMENT TO MOVE THOUSANDS OF POUNDS OF DONATED FOOD FOR OUR MAGNIFICENT PETS.
THEY'RE SUCH AN INSPIRING GROUP OF PEOPLE.
WE'RE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEM ENGAGED AS MEMBERS OF THIS VERY SPECIAL PLACE.
UM, THIS IS WHAT COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE.
BEFORE I TURN IT OVER TO PETER, UM, TO TALK, I SEE THAT WE RECEIVED QUESTIONS FROM THE TOWN ATTORNEY, THE TOWN ENGINEER, THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY PLANNING BOARD, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, AND THE CDC, ALL OF WHICH WE WILL ANSWER IN A COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSE FOR YOU.
UM, THIS HAS BEEN THE SAME USE ON THIS SITE FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS.
WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO INCREASE ANYTHING OR CHANGE ANYTHING THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR THE LAST 20 YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN OPERATING ON ONE YEAR RENEWABLE PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN RENEWED EVERY YEAR.
WE'RE NOT REQUESTING TO USE MORE WATER.
WE'RE NOT REQUESTING TO USE MORE ELECTRICITY.
WE'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING THAT'S CHANGING THE OPERATION OF THE SITE.
WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE YOU TO PETE LOYOLA.
HE'S THE FOUNDER AND PRINCIPAL OF CLA, WHO WILL ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THE SITE PLAN.
UH, LEMME GO TO THE NEXT SHEET HERE.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE OF CLARIFICATIONS IN TERMS OF THE SITE PLAN AND, AND WHAT WE'RE ACTUALLY TRYING TO APPROVE HERE.
UH, WE HAVE A 4.2 ACRE SITE THAT IS OUT OF 14.3 ACRES THAT IS, IS LISTED HERE.
THAT'S THE CONTIGUOUS PROPERTY.
WE ONLY LEASE 4.2 ACRES OUT OF THIS.
WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO INCREASE THAT AT ALL.
UH, THE, THE DISTURBED AREA AND I, I SAW ON THE, UH, ON THE, UH, UM, AGENDA IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU FOLKS NEED TO BE LOOKING AT.
UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, UH, INFORMATION ON THE STEEP SLOPES.
WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO EXCAVATE ANYTHING ON THE STEEP SLOPES.
UH, THIS IS AN EXISTING SITE, THAT 35%, UH, STEEP SLOPE THAT, THAT WE SHOW.
THAT'S 32,000 SQUARE FEET THAT'S EXISTING.
THAT'S ALONG THE SOUTHERN EDGE OF, OF THE PROPERTY THAT'S EXISTING.
IT'S ALL STABILIZED WITH VEGETATION AND IT'S THE HEAD WALL THAT WE INCLUDED AS PART OF THIS THAT'S STABILIZED AND HAS BEEN THERE FOR 23 YEARS.
WE'RE NOT PROPOSING TO TAKE ANY OF THAT DOWN.
THAT WAS AN EXISTING CONDITION CALCULATION, UH, THAT WE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE, THE OPERATION AND THE FLOOR PLAN.
UH, SO THE 4.2 ACRES THAT YOU ARE, YOU'RE GONNA BE LOOKING AT IS ALL WITHIN, UH, WHAT HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY, UH, IN OPERATION FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AS GLEN MENTIONED.
UH, THE PORTION THAT WE ARE REGRADING AND, AND RESURFACING, THIS WAS PART OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT, UH, AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THAT PROCESS, UH, IS THE FRONT ENTRANCE WAY AND UP TO ABOUT HALFWAY, UH, THROUGH TO SOUTH WAREHOUSE LANE.
THAT'S JUST GONNA GET MILLED AND, AND RESURFACED.
THE REGRADING IS NOT GONNA BE ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT.
UH, YOU KNOW, AS GLEN MENTIONED IN TERMS OF THE OPERATION, UH, THERE'S SEVERAL STOCKPILES THAT ARE ON THE SITE.
UH, THEY, THEY COME IN VARIOUS, UH, TRUCKS AND TRUCKLOADS.
THERE'S PROCESSING, THERE'S PLANT EQUIPMENT.
UH, THERE'S PLENTY OF CIRCULATION FOR TRACTOR TRAILERS TO PULL IN AND AROUND, UH, THIS SITE.
AND THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR 20 YEARS.
THEY COME IN, UH, THEY PULL IN, THEY BACK UP, THEY DUMP, DUMP THEIR LOADS.
UH, SOMETIMES THEY COME IN THE BACK WHEN THEY'RE PICKING UP PRODUCT AND THEY, THERE'S PLENTY OF PLACES TO TURN AROUND.
ONE OF THE PIECES OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO ADD AN, AN ADDITIONAL
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ENTRANCE WAY, UH, TO THIS, TO, UH, IN THIS LOCATION HERE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS, UH, TO THE NORTH HERE AND JUST TO THE EAST.WE WOULD, WE WOULD ADD ANOTHER ENTRANCEWAY JUST FOR ADDITIONAL ACCESS.
UH, THAT WAS PART OF THE CONDITION OF THIS, UH, THIS SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO WITH REGARD TO STORM WATER, AS GLEN MENTIONED, WE'VE BEEN IN AN OPERATION 23 YEARS.
WE HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL SECTOR STORM WATER THAT'S IN PLACE.
WE'RE, WE'RE CURRENTLY, UH, REGULATED BY DEC.
IT'S, IT'S IN YOUR CODE THAT IF YOU REQUIRED TO SEE THAT, UH, THAT DOCUMENT, I HAVE IT HERE AS A HARD COPY.
THAT'S AN ONGOING, UH, STORMWATER MANAGEMENT PLAN.
UH, UNLIKE, UH, A TYPICAL CONSTRUCTION SW UH, AND MULTI-SECTOR PERMIT FOR CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY.
THIS IS AN ONGOING OPERATION WHERE WE HAVE ONGOING MONITORING, UH, BIANNUAL MONITORING, SAMPLING THAT ARE DISCHARGE POINTS.
THAT'S FOR CONTAMINANTS AND, UH, TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS.
WE ALSO HAVE, UH, QUARTERLY VISUAL SAMPLING THAT WE'RE, WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO BY DEC.
THERE'S AN ANNUAL REPORT THAT GOES INTO THE DEC THAT MAKES SURE THAT WE'RE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL THE COMPONENTS FOR THE SW.
UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT'S DIFFERENT THAN A CONSTRUCTION SECTOR PERMIT WHERE IT HAS A BEGINNING AND AN END.
THERE'S NO TERMINATION ON THIS.
WHILE WE'RE OPERATING, WE ARE OPERATING UNDER THE GUIDELINES OF DEC TYPICALLY, AND WE DO, WE DO INDUSTRIAL SECTOR PERMITS ALL OVER THE STATE.
UH, TYPICALLY MUNICIPALITIES, UH, THEY, THEY, UM, WANT THE INFORMATION, UH, FROM, FROM THE DEC AND THE THINGS THAT WE SUBMIT TO DEC.
BUT THEY, THEY GIVE DEC THE JURISDICTION TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE PROVIDE ON A, ON A ALMOST DAILY BASIS.
UH, AND, UH, MUCH LIKE A, A WETLAND PERMIT, UH, WHERE YOU FOLKS HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THE T'S ARE CROSSED AND I'S ARE DOTTED ON WETLAND ARMY CORPS.
AS LONG AS YOU GET A PERMIT FROM ARMY CORPS, AS LONG AS YOU GET A PERMIT FROM DEC, UH, THE MUNICIPALITIES TYPICALLY TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND THEY INCLUDE IT IN THEIR, UH, SEEKER, UH, ASSESSMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO IMPACTS TO WETLANDS.
SO THEY TAKE THAT INFORMATION THAT WAS AND PERMIT FROM THE ARMY CORPS.
IF THE ARMY CORPS DEEMS IT AS, UH, YOU KNOW, NO IMPACT, UH, THEN THE, THE MUNICIPALITY TYPICALLY FOLLOWS SUIT WITH REGARD TO STORM WATER THROUGHOUT NEW YORK STATE.
MUNICIPALITIES TYPICALLY, UH, ABDICATE THAT, UH, THAT PERMIT TO, UH, THE, TO THE STATE.
THERE'S ALWAYS GUIDELINES THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE THAT, THAT ARE, ARE TYPICAL OF A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES THESE DAYS BECAUSE WE KNOW, UH, STORMWATER IS A HUGE ISSUE.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT YOU, YOU FOLKS NEED WITH REGARD TO STORMWATER, WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE IT.
UH, WE HAVE, UM, GONE THROUGH AN EXHAUSTIVE, UH, YOU KNOW, LIST OF, UH, IMPROVEMENTS, UH, IN GETTING TO THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL.
WE'RE HAPPY TO GO THROUGH ANYTHING THAT YOU WANT TO SEE.
THAT'S PART OF OUR INDUSTRIAL SECTOR PERMIT.
UH, SO THAT'S THE ONLY OTHER CLARIFICATION THAT I WANNA MAKE ON THIS.
NO CHANGE TO THE AMOUNT OF DISTURBED AREA.
4.2 ACRES IS, IS, UH, WHAT YOU SEE AND WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING, THE, THE MAKEUP AND IN TERMS OF THE INTERNAL OPERATION CHANGES, UH, YOU KNOW, FROM DAY TO DAY, THE AMOUNT OF TRUCKS THAT COME IN, UH, AND, UH, JUST THE METHODS OF OPERATIONS STAY, STAY VERY CONSISTENT.
SO, UM, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THEY HAVE TONIGHT.
UH, AS GLEN MENTIONED, WE HAVE, UH, UH, COMMENTS FROM THE COUNTY FROM, UH, JUST A, A NUMBER OF COMMENTS.
WE WOULD LIKE TO, THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO ALL THOSE COMMENTS IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY.
AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS BOARD.
SO THERE'S NO DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE OBVIOUSLY TONIGHT.
THIS WAS FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES TO GET YOU GUYS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS EXACTLY YOU GUYS ARE, WHAT YOU FOLKS ARE, ARE APPROVING AND TAKING A LOOK AT AND RECOMMENDING.
AND IN OUR PACKETS WAS THE MEMO FROM THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR GARRITY, AND I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THE RESPONSES TO, TO THESE QUESTIONS.
UM, AND, AND OF COURSE ALL THE OTHERS.
WELL, AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO, WE'RE STARTING TO PUT THO PULL THOSE TOGETHER AT THE NEXT MEETING AND BEFORE THE, BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING, WE'LL HAVE THOSE ANSWERED FOR YOU.
DO, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF TIMING THERE? I WANT TO GIVE THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS A CHANCE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE.
'CAUSE IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE FOR YOU TO INCLUDE THE, A RESPONSE TO THESE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSE.
AND JUST THINKING ABOUT TIMING, OUR LAST PROJECT, WE'RE KIND OF MOVING, WE HAVE A MULTIPLE LARGE PROJECTS ON WITH THE BOARD, RIGHT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO STAGGER BETWEEN THE TWO.
AND WE WOULD ANTICIPATE, DEPENDING ON YOUR TIMING, WOULD HAVING THE, WOULD BE HAVING YOU BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD ON
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SEPTEMBER 17TH.SO WE HAVE AN APPEARANCE BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD ON.
HI, FOR INSTANCE, UH, ATTORNEY ZAIN STEINZ ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, WE ARE APPEARING BEFORE THE ZONING BOARD ON SEPTEMBER 18TH.
SO I KNOW YOU HAVE SEPTEMBER 17TH THE DAY BEFORE.
UM, I MEAN, IDEALLY WE'D LIKE TO AT LEAST APPEAR BEFORE THEM BECAUSE PART OF WHY WE'RE GOING BEFORE THE ZBA IS SOME MODIFICATIONS OR AMENDMENTS, PRIMARILY CLARIFICATIONS FOR SOME OF THESE, A AMENDED THE CONDITIONS THAT WENT IN.
UM, SO THAT MAY OR MAY NOT IMPACT WHAT WE HAVE ON OUR SITE PLAN.
SO I KNOW YOU HAVE A 29TH SEPTEMBER 29TH MEETING.
PREFERABLY WE'D LIKE TO BE MOVED TO THIS, AT LEAST THE SEPTEMBER 29TH.
SO WE'RE NOT APPEARING AGAIN BEFORE YOU, WITHOUT HAVING GONE TO THE ZVA.
UM, SO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG WITH, THERE'S A PENDING ARTICLE 78 WITH THE, THE, UH, ZBA SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO, AND ALSO, UM, IN LOOKING AT THE MATERIALS SUBMITTED, UM, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE MAY POTENTIALLY BE VARIANCES REQUIRED DEPENDING UPON HOW YOU TREAT THE, UM, WORKING BASE OR FILL, UM, RAISING THAT WORKING PLATFORM, SO TO SPEAK.
UM, SO I'D BE PREPARED TO ADDRESS THAT IN THE NEXT MEETING.
UM, I'D BE SURPRISED IF THE ZBA CONTINUES KNOWING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE, UH, PROBABLY CHANGES BASED UPON THE SITE PLAN AND, UH, VARIANCES NEEDED WITH REGARD TO YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING REFERENCE TO THE BUILDING.
SO, SO THERE'S BUILDINGS ON THE SITE, RIGHT? YES.
ASSOCIATED WITH THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL, ELECTRICAL WATER, UM, TANK STORAGE.
SO I THINK THE SITE PLAN WILL DICTATE ANY POTENTIAL CHANGES TO YOUR SPECIAL PERMITS.
SO IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME TO PROCEED WITH THE ZBA AT THIS TIME.
A NUMBER OF THESE CONDITIONS, AND I MEAN, I I, I'M HAPPY I I CAN GO THROUGH THOSE CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO REFERENCE.
UM, WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE YOU A COPY OF THE LETTER THAT WENT TO THE ZBA AS WELL.
BUT A NUMBER OF THOSE CONDITIONS, WHETHER THEY BE OPERATIONAL OR THEY ACT OR THROUGH REGARD TO THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT ON THE SITE, UM, WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO MODIFY CONDITIONS THAT WOULD IMPACT THE WORKING BASE.
ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED WITH THE ZBA PREVIOUSLY.
UM, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING TO DO IS MODIFY CERTAIN CONDITIONS PRIMARILY OPERATIONALLY THAT DO NOT WORK WITH US.
I'M JUST, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE BACKGROUND OF THE ZBA TOO MUCH, BUT I WILL SAY THAT ALLOWING US TO AT LEAST APPEAR BEFORE THE ZBA ON THESE AMENDMENTS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL BEFORE WE COME BACK.
BEFORE THIS BOARD, UH, WE TRIED TO ADJOURN INITIALLY, JUST SO YOU KNOW, WE DID TRY TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING INITIALLY, UM, KNOWING THAT WE HAD THIS, SO WHILE WE CAME HERE, WE WANTED TO GET YOU UP TO SPEED.
UM, AND WE WANNA MOVE THROUGH THIS PROCESS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.
WE WANT TO BE KIND TO YOU NOT TO KEEP COMING BEFORE YOU GIVING YOU A SPIEL AS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING WHEN IT MAY CHANGE.
SO I'D ALSO BE PREPARED TO ADDRESS COMMENTS ABOUT TESTING A MATERIAL THAT YOU SPOKE ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, STORAGE TANKS, THE FILL QUESTION, THE WORKING PLATFORM BROUGHT UP IN, UH, GAR MS. UH, G'S MEMO.
UM, I THINK ANYTHING ADDITIONAL ON THE STORM WATER TESTING WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
AND, UH, RESPONSES TO ALL THE COMMENTS.
I I, WE, WE DO HAVE A NEGATIVE DECLARATION THAT WE'RE WORKING OFF OF.
I I BELIEVE THAT WE'RE STILL GONNA BE RIGHT.
SO THE TOWN BOARD WAS NOT INCLUDED AS A, UM, INVOLVED AGENCY AT THAT TIME.
UM, SO I BELIEVE THEY'RE ENTITLED TO THEIR OWN REVIEW AS WELL.
JUST AGAIN, FOR THE RECORD ON THE SITE, THERE'S NOT A FOOTING ON THE SITE.
THEY, UH, THE REASON THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE BUILDING PERMITS IS THAT EVERYTHING ON THERE IS EITHER A TENT OR A TRAILER.
WE GOT INTO BUILDING PERMITS BECAUSE, UM, THE TRAILER'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
AGAIN, THERE'S NO FOOTINGS ON THE SITE.
WE WENT TO GET, THE BUILDING PERMITS WERE SUBMITTED OVER TWO YEARS AGO AND THEY NEEDED A SITE, THEY WANTED A SITE PLAN BECAUSE THE SITE PLAN SUBMITTED IN 2002 HAS CHANGED.
WE'LL GO THROUGH EVERYTHING WE NEED TO DO TO GET TO YOU ON THIS.
BUT AGAIN, THERE'S NO FOOTINGS ON THE SITE.
UM, WE'LL GET EV WE'LL ANSWER EVERY QUESTION THAT THAT WAS ASKED COMPREHENSIVELY AND GO THROUGH THIS.
DO, UH, DO THE TRAILERS HAVE ELECTRICAL? THEY HAVE ELECTRICAL.
WE'VE HAD ELECTRICAL ON THE SITE FOR MORE THAN 10 YEARS.
WE'VE RECEIVED VIOLATIONS FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE LIGHTS BEING TOO HIGH.
SO THERE'S BEEN, AGAIN, IF THERE WAS EVER A PERMIT THAT WASN'T ISSUED, IT MAY HAVE BEEN OVERSIGHT.
OUR PERMIT WAS RENEWED ANNUALLY EVERY YEAR FOR 20, HOWEVER MANY SEVEN YEARS.
SO WE WILL DO WHATEVER WE NEED TO BRING THIS UP TO CODE.
BUT THE SITE PLAN WAS REQUIRED FOR THEM TO, TO APPROVE THE PERMITS THAT WERE SUBMITTED OVER TWO YEARS AGO.
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NEVER PREVIOUSLY BEEN A SITE PLAN.THE SITE PLAN WAS APPROVED IN 2002 WHEN WE GOT THE INITIAL PERMIT, WHEN WE, SO I BELIEVE THAT WAS PART OF THE SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THERE WAS NOT ACTUAL SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO MY KNOWLEDGE.
SO BACK IN THE DAY, IT WAS A, A SPECIAL PERMIT.
WE WERE ON A COUPLE OF ACRES OF THE SITE.
REMEMBER WE ARE NOT 14 ACRES SITE.
14 ACRES IS THE ENTIRE SITE FROM THE LANDLORD.
WE OC OCCUPY, YOU COULD SAY FOUR ACRES.
I SAY IT'S THREE, BUT IN THE THREE TO FOUR ACRE RANGE.
SO THAT'S WHY WHEN THEY SAID THEY WANT A SITE PLAN, WE HAVE, WE'RE HAPPY.
RIGHT? WE ARE, WE'RE LOOKING TO ACHIEVE EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE WANT.
LET US ANSWER ALL OF THE QUESTIONS, UM, COMPREHENSIVELY.
'CAUSE I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO DO.
UM, WE WILL GO BACK TO THE ZBA, UM, TO RESOLVE.
THERE'S A FEW TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO CLEAR UP WITH THEM, AND THAT'S WHY I'D ASK FOR US NOT TO WASTE YOUR TIME.
I KNOW YOU HAVE STUFF COMING IN.
WELL, I'M, I'M, I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN RESPONSES TO THE, UH, TO THE QUESTIONS PROPOSED BY DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR GARRITY.
SO, AND WE'LL DO THAT IF YOU'RE ABLE TO COME TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING WITH, WITH THOSE ANSWERS, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD FIRST STEP.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT WE HAVE THE REFERRAL PENDING WITH THE TOWN BOARD.
THAT'S WHERE YOU STARTED THE CLOCK.
SO THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR THIS BOARD TO ISSUE ITS RECOMMENDATION WITHIN A GIVEN TIME PERIOD FOLLOWING A REFERRAL BY THE TOWN BOARD.
SO THE PLANNING BOARD'S UNDER A TIME CLOCK, AS MS. MCGON SAID.
SO WOULD, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO SUBMIT RESPONSES TO ALL THE QUESTIONS BY SEPTEMBER 10TH? SO THE CONCERN WITH LIZ, I, I DON'T HAVE HER, DO YOU HAVE HER, I THINK THE LIZ GARRITY ONE TALKED ABOUT A SCALE GOING IN THERE.
SO WE JUST REFER YOU TO THAT MEMO.
DO YOU WANNA GIVE IT TO WE'LL, WE'LL SUBMIT OUR, WE'LL SUBMIT ALL OUR RESPONSES.
WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON THEM.
SO, AND I, A NUMBER OF THOSE ISSUES THAT WERE ALREADY RAISED HAVE ALREADY BEEN VETTED THROUGHOUT THE EXTENSIVE PROCESS OVER TWO YEARS THAT WE DID BEFORE THE ZPA.
SO WE WILL RECITE THOSE, MAKE REFERENCE TO THEM, AND WE'LL SUBMIT IT'S OVER A MONTH.
YEAH, I DON'T SEE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT.
SO WE'LL, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE BASICALLY JUST SO THE BOARD MEMBERS ARE AWARE, RIGHT? I KNOW IT'S LATE.
UM, THIS IS YOUR FIRST INITIAL INTRODUCTION INTO THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL.
THEY'RE GONNA GIVE A COMPREHENSIVE RESPONSE TO THE COMMENTS THEY'VE RECEIVED FROM THE VARIOUS STAFF AND AGENCIES THAT THEY'VE, UH, GOTTEN TO DATE.
AND THEN THEY'LL BE BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD SO THAT WE CAN DIVE INTO THIS IN MORE DEPTH.
AND YOU GUYS WILL HAVE HAD MORE TIME TO GO THROUGH THE VARIOUS DOCUMENTS THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED, INCLUDING THE COMMENTS, THE RESPONSES TO COMMENTS.
AND WE CAN DIVE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE INTO ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR CONCERNS THAT THIS BOARD MIGHT HAVE AS IT BEGINS TO WORK THROUGH THE PROCESS, UH, IN ORDER TO ISSUE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN BOARD.
AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO COME VISIT THE FACILITY.
IT, IT MAKES IT TO GO OUT AND SEE WHAT WE DO IS, IS HELPFUL.
UM, I ASKED JUST COME IN, STOP IN THE TRAILER THERE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT IS A HARD HAT SITE AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY'S SAFE.
WE CAN LOOK TO COORDINATE, UH, FOR SMALL GROUP SITE VISITS.
YEAH, I, I WOULD PREFER YEAH, I I WAS GONNA SUGGEST THAT.
HAVE A GOOD, HAVE A GOOD EVENING.
UH, IS THERE ANY OTHER BUSINESS? WELL, I DIDN'T, I DON'T HAVE THE COPY OF THAT, UH, COMMENTS.
SO, SO THE, UH, BUILDING DEPART DEPUTY BUILDING DEPARTMENTS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS, UM, LET'S CLOSE THE MEETING AND THEN I'LL
I I MEAN WE CAN COME BACK IN SEPTEMBER.