BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T SAY YOU WERE READY
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TO THE TOWN BOARD.OUR WORK SESSION TODAY IS, UM, SEPTEMBER 9TH, AFTER FIVE 30.
I MENTIONED TO THE MAYOR OF VARLEY THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS UPSET YESTERDAY, LAST NIGHT BECAUSE, UM, WE HAD APPROVED A RESOLUTION.
WE HAD APPROVED A RESOLUTION ON.
UM, HE KNOWS HE'S TRYING TO ON, UM, IN FEBRUARY, UH, AUTHORIZING PAYMENT OF, UM, CHECKS TO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
AND, UH, THE RESOLUTION WAS APPROVED AND THEY DIDN'T GET THE MONEY UNTIL, UH, TODAY YOU HAVE TO BE COMPLAINT.
AND I JUST WANTED, WANT, WANTED TO KNOW THE REASONS WHY.
UM, YOU KNOW, IT TOOK SIX MONTHS BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WE ISSUED A CHECK TO THE VILLAGE AFTER, UH, AFTER THE BOARD APPROVED IT.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS NO CHANGES TO THE RESOLUTION AFTER, RIGHT? NO, THERE WERE NOT CHANGES.
SO WE APOLOGIZE TO THE VILLAGE, WE'LL DO A BETTER JOB OF KEEPING TRACK OF THAT MOVING FORWARD.
AND, UM, THERE WAS NO MALICIOUS INTENT AND, UH, WE'LL DO JUST, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE WE GET THEM OUT QUICKER FROM ARE THERE ANY OUTSTANDING RESOLUTIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN STAMPED YET, AND HOW ANY, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I THINK IT REALLY LOOKS BAD IF A RESOLUTION IS APPROVED BY THE BOARD AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE DON'T STAMP IT FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS AND MONTHS, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, EVERY RESOLUTION THAT THE BOARD APPROVES SHOULD BE, UH, STAMPED WITHIN TWO WEEKS AND THEN IMPLEMENTED, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY, UH, ANY, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS.
YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY RIGHT NOW.
I GOT BACK LAST NIGHT AND SAW YOUR EMAIL, SO WE'LL LOOK INTO IT THOUGH, AND HANDLE ANY THAT ARE OUTSTANDING.
SO THE, YOU KNOW, AT EACH UH, BOARD MEETING, I'M GONNA BASICALLY SAY THAT EVERY RESOLUTION GOING FORWARD THAT THE BOARD APPROVES HAS TO BE, UH, STAMPED WITHIN TWO WEEKS.
AND THEN, UM, AND THEN WELL, IF THERE'S FUNDS, OKAY, WELL, WE, WE DO LEAVE IT.
THAT MAKES SENSE TO US, SUPERVISOR AND, AND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
SO I APOLOGIZE TO THE MAYOR FOR THIS OVERSIGHT.
NEXT, UH, THE ELMWOOD RIDGE, UH, RIDGE, UH, WOOD.
GOOD EVENING TOWN BOARD MEMBERS.
I'M GARRETT TECA, PLANNING COMMISSIONER FOR THE TOWN, AND HERE TO, UH, WALK YOU THROUGH SOME UPDATES THAT RIDGEWOOD ELMWOOD, UH, IS HERE TO PRESENT IN JUST A MOMENT.
UH, THEY'VE BEEN MAKING GREAT PROGRESS WITH THEIR SITE AT DOBBS FERRY ROAD, WHICH IS APPROVED, UH, FOR 113 SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
UH, INCLUDES A LOT OF GOOD THINGS INCLUDING ENVIRONMENTAL REMEDIATION OF THE SITE, UH, SIDEWALKS, UH, DRAINAGE, AND, UH, LAND TRANSFER OF 14.2 ACRES TO THE TOWN.
SO, UH, THEY'VE BEEN MAKING QUITE A BIT OF PROGRESS, AND THEY'RE HERE TO WALK YOU THROUGH SOME UPDATES, UH, MAINLY IN LIGHT OF SOME, UH, REQUESTS FROM THE DEC RELATED TO THE REMEDIATION.
UM, HAVING SAID THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO DIEGO VILLA REAL JMC, AND THERE'S JAMES CARRIS IS FROM JMC ARE HERE AS WELL.
AND I THINK THERE'S OTHERS ON, UH, THE ZOOM.
TERRENCE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE PROMOTE THEM IN CASE THEY HAVE ANY TALKING POINTS.
JUST MAKE SURE YOU KEEP THE MIC UP CLOSE.
UH, THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE RECORD.
REALITY WITH JMC PLANNING, AN ENGINEERING CONSULTANT, UH, FOR THE APPLICANTS.
UM, JUST TO DIVE IN AND START TO BUILD ON WHAT GARRETT, UH, WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, REALLY HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON STATUS OF THE PROJECT, KIND OF WHERE WE STAND AND OVERALL THE PROGRESS THAT WE'VE MADE SINCE THE PROJECT RECEIVED ITS PRELIMINARY APPROVAL FROM THE PLANNING BOARD FOR SUBDIVISION.
UH, AS MANY OF YOU MIGHT BE AWARE OR ARE AWARE OF, UH, RIDGEWOOD IS IN CONTRACT WITH KAVIAN, UH, WHO WILL ULTIMATELY CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT AND BUILD THE SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ON THE PROJECT ITSELF.
KH IS ONE OF THE LARGEST HOME BUILDERS IN THE COUNTRY, AND THEY ARE EXCITED TO ULTIMATELY GET IN HERE, UH, TO START BUILDING THE PROJECT ONCE ALL THE APPROVALS ARE IN PLACE, WHICH WE'RE STILL WORKING OUR WAY TOWARDS THERE, BUT WE ARE REALLY, UH, GETTING THERE.
THE MAIN REASON WE'RE BACK BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING AGAIN, IS SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE PROJECT REQUIRE SOME AMENDMENTS TO THE FINDING STATEMENT THAT WAS ULTIMATELY ISSUED.
AND THIS WAS REALLY AS A RESULT OF THE CLEANUP THAT'S BEING DONE ON THE PROJECT, AS YOU'RE AWARE, AS ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL, WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO REMEDIATE THE ENTIRE SITE, NOT JUST THE DEVELOPMENT AREA, WHERE THE HOMES ARE GOING.
ALL OF THAT IS BEING REMEDIATED TO UNRESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS, MEANING THAT ANY CONTAMINATED MATERIAL THAT WAS AS A RESULT OF THE GOLF COURSE BEING THERE IS GONNA BE REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY.
SO WHETHER IT'S ON SINGLE FAMILY LOTS, WHETHER IT'S IN THE CONSERVATION AREA, WHETHER IT'S WITHIN ROADWAYS, WHETHER IT'S ON THE PARK PARCEL, THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IS BEING REMEDIATED TO THAT STANDARD.
SO AS A RESULT OF THAT MATERIAL IS BEING REMOVED FROM THE SITE AND, UH, IS GONNA REQUIRE ADDITIONAL DISTURBANCES ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT WAS ALREADY WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED.
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BUT THAT'S BECAUSE YOU BROUGHT CONTAMINATED FILL ONTO THE PROPERTY, RIGHT? DIFFERENT, SLIGHTLY, YOU'RE POINTING TO THE, THE, YOU'RE TALKING, I THINK ABOUT THE DEMOLITION.IT'S COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF IT.
THAT WAS A DISTURBED AREA WHERE THE HOUSES WERE, AND I THINK THAT ISSUE WAS REALLY CLOSED OUT.
AND A LOT OF THAT MATERIAL, THIS REALLY IS COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT OF IT.
THE ADDITIONAL IS, UM, AGAIN, OUR OBLIGATION TO THE TOWN.
THE CONDITION OF THE APPROVAL SAYS THAT THE ENTIRE SITE NEEDS TO BE REMEDIATED TO AN UNRESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL STANDARD.
MEANING AREAS THAT WERE, COULD YOU JUST GO UP TO THE, TO THE, TO THE MAP ILLUSTRATION, WHATEVER IT IS, AND SHOW US WHICH AREAS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHICH AREAS WHERE, UM, LET'S STICK WITH THIS FOR A SECOND.
I'M GONNA JUST, OH, YEAH, THAT'S EVEN DO THIS, SHOULD I TAKE A MICROPHONE? YOU CAN BRING, SIR.
HE BROUGHT, HE BROUGHT IT FOR A REASON.
SO CABLE DIRECTOR CAN PUT THE CAMERA ON JUST YEAH.
VERY SIMPLY, BEFORE WE EVEN GET TO THAT, I'M GONNA ANSWER THAT, BUT I JUST WANT TO TAKE TWO SECONDS TO JUST TALK ABOUT THE OVERALL DEVELOPMENT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH TOWN STAFF TO ADDRESS ALL OF THE COMMENTS AND THE CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL THAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO BEFORE WE FINALIZE OUR SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
AS PART OF THAT PROCESS, THE SUBDIVISION LAYOUT HAS NOT CHANGED AT ALL.
ACCESS POINTS ALONG DOBBS FERRY ROAD ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.
THE UNIT COUNT, THE LOT COUNT, ROADWAY CONFIGURATION, ALL OF THAT IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT YOU SAW FROM THE LAST PLAN.
UM, LIKE I WAS SPEAKING ABOUT, IT'S REALLY THE REMEDIATION PIECE OF IT.
ORIGINALLY, WE HAD CONTEMPLATED ABOUT 50,000 YARDS OF MATERIAL THAT NEEDED TO BE REMOVED FROM THE PROPERTY, UH, AS A RESULT OF THE CONTAMINATION FROM THE GOLF COURSE, THE PROPERTY, IT'S PESTICIDES.
SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT THAT'S PE RESIDUAL PESTICIDES FROM DECADES OF, UH, GOLF COURSES, GOLF COURSE.
AND WHICH, AND WHICH AREA DID THAT COVER? THAT'S THE ENTIRE, AND WE HAVE AN EXHIBIT THAT'S GONNA CLARIFY THAT A LITTLE BIT IN INCLUDING THE 14 ACRES.
JUST NEED A FEW MINUTES TO GET THROUGH THIS, AND I THINK IT'LL ANSWER.
THE WHOLE SITE CON CONTAINS CONTAMINANTS.
BUT THERE ARE SOME SPOTS THAT DO NOT.
UM, BASICALLY, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, THE APPLICANT, RIDGEWOOD HAS BEEN WORKING WITH TERRA PHASE AS THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT.
OBVIOUSLY THIS PROPERTY IS PART OF THE BROWNFIELD CLEANUP PROGRAM.
SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH THE NEW YORK STATE DEC ON TESTING PROTOCOL.
THEY HAVE SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS WORKING WITH THE DEC TESTING, TESTING THE ENTIRE PROPERTY IN GRIDS AND QUADRANTS.
AND YOU CAN EVEN SEE FROM THE REPORTS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, YOU KNOW, EVERY QUADRANT OF THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN TESTED TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS WHERE THEY HAVE TO REMEDIATE AND REMOVE MATERIAL.
THERE ARE SOME SPOTS THAT DO NOT HAVE ANY CONTAMINANTS IN IT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THEY'RE UNDISTURBED AREAS, MAYBE THEY'RE CERTAIN SPOTS.
SO WE CAN LEAVE THOSE AREAS ALONE, BUT A GOOD PORTION OF THE PROPERTY CONTAINS AREAS THAT NEED TO BE REMEDIATED.
SO, ORIGINALLY IN WHAT YOU CAN SEE ON THIS PLAN, THE DEVELOPMENT WAS REALLY WITHIN THESE DIFFERENT AREAS HERE.
AND THERE WERE PIECES THAT WERE OPEN SPACE IN THIS AREA HERE, ALL ALONG HERE.
ALL OF THESE AREAS THAT WERE NOT CONTEMPLATED TO BE DISTURBED, THEY WERE IN CONSERVATION AREAS.
THEY'RE STILL GOING TO BE IN CONSERVATION AREAS.
I REALLY WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT.
AGAIN, ALL OF THE AREAS WILL REMAIN IN CONSERVATION AREAS.
WOULD YOU PLEASE DEFINE CONSERVATION AREAS FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC? IT'S AREAS OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS, AGAIN, A, UH, CONSERVATION SUBDIVISION, MEANING THAT HOMES ARE CLUSTERED TOGETHER A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER, AND IT ALLOWED US TO MAINTAIN OPEN SPACE IN AND AROUND THE PROPERTY.
AND THAT ALLOWS THESE DIFFERENT AREAS TO REMAIN AS OPEN SPACE IN PERPETUITY.
THAT WILL ALL BE DEED RESTRICTED.
IT'LL BE PUT IN A CONSERVATION EASEMENT, AND IT'LL REMAIN AS OPEN SPACE AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, IN PERPETUITY.
SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT THOSE AREAS ARE ALSO REMEDIATED? THEY WILL BE REMEDIATED AS PART OF THIS PROCESS? SO THAT'S TO THE SAME LEVEL AS THE EVERYTHING AS REQUIRED BY THE, THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENTS AND THE APPROVAL.
THE ENTIRE SITE IS BEING REMEDIATED TO AN UNRESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL STANDARD, WHICH IS REALLY THAT HIGHEST LEVEL OF CARE.
SO AREAS, FOR INSTANCE, THIS AREA HERE WAS NOT ORIGINALLY CONTEMPLATED TO BE DISTURBED, BUT WHEN THEY WENT IN AND DID THE TESTING THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO, THERE ARE AREAS THAT NEED TO BE REMEDIATED.
SO WE'RE GOING INTO SOME OF THESE AREAS THROUGHOUT THE SITE, AND WE HAVE TO DISTURB THOSE AREAS.
UM, THERE WAS AN ARTICLE, I THINK IT WAS IN THE TIMES, OR IT WAS IN ONE OF THE PUBLICATIONS IN THE PI THINK THE
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PAST DAY OR SO, UM, SAYING LIVING NEAR GOLF COURSES, UM, COULD RAISE, UH, THE POTENTIAL OF PARKINSON'S DISEASE.IT GOT LIKE A LOT OF NATIONAL ATTENTION.
IS THIS, UH, CONTAMINATION BECAUSE OF THE GOLF COURSE, OR WAS IT BECAUSE OF PREVIOUS, UH, YOU KNOW, PREVIOUS OTHER USES? UH, I MEAN, DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA, WHAT DID THE ARTICLE SAY ABOUT WHAT CONTAMINANTS CREATED? THERE WAS AN ARTICLE, PARKINSON'S.
I JUST READ IT ACTUALLY, I THINK YESTERDAY.
UM, AND I'M JUST, I JUST GOOGLED IT.
WHAT DID THEY ATTRIBUTE? THE GOLF COURSES RAISES PARKINSON'S DISEASE, UH, RISK IF YOU LIVE WITHIN 1, 2, 3 MILES OF A GOLF COURSE.
UM, AND, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME STUDIES AND I, I'M JUST SORT OF CURIOUS.
I ACTUALLY USED TO LIVE NEAR A GOLF COURSE AND THIS IS DEFINITELY AN ISSUE.
SO IT, IT DOESN'T MATTER WHO WAS THERE BEFORE.
WHAT CONTAMINANTS DO THEY REFERENCE? REFERENCE INSECTICIDE? THEY JUST SAID THAT IT'S A, A NEW STUDY FOUND THOSE, UH, LEMME JUST SAY IT'S, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD GOOGLE, IT'S ON, UH, YAHOO, BUT I, UH, IT'S PESTICIDES, GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION.
SO PESTICIDES, GROUNDWATER CONTAMINATION.
BUT JUST TO, THEY CLEANING UP YESTERDAY.
I'M THRILLED THAT YOU'RE CLEANING IT UP, BUT I'M JUST SORT OF CURIOUS BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I WAS NOT AWARE UNTIL I READ THE ARTICLE.
THIS WAS A POTENTIAL, UH, YOU KNOW, POTENTIAL SAFETY ISSUE.
AND, AND I THINK WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS GONNA MAKE IT SAFER, YOU KNOW, FOR PEOPLE.
SO THAT'S PO IT'S POSITIVE FROM YOUR STANDPOINT OF A DEVELOPMENT.
BUT I'M JUST SORT OF WONDERING IF, UH, YOU KNOW, NATIONALLY, YOU KNOW, THERE SHOULD BE OTHER REMEDI.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THERE SHOULD BE, 'CAUSE I HAVEN'T DONE THE STUDY, BUT I JUST READ THE ARTICLE.
I CAN'T, I CAN'T SPEAK OBVIOUSLY NATIONALLY, I CAN FOCUS ON THIS PROJECT.
AND THE INFORMATION THAT WE UNDERSTAND, IT'S HISTORIC, UM, CONTAMINANTS THAT ARE ON THE PROPERTY AS A RESULT OF THE GOLF COURSE USE MM-HMM
UM, THE TWO CONTAMINANTS PRIMARILY THAT ARE BEING FOCUSED IN ON ARE ARSENIC AND LEAD.
THAT'S REALLY THROUGHOUT THE FAIRWAYS AND THINGS.
AND IT'S TYPICAL WHEN YOU HAVE THESE OLDER GOLF COURSES.
IT'S VERY STAGNANT AND SO TO SPEAK.
IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT TRAVELS FAR.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING, I DON'T WANNA GET INTO THE DETAILS.
WE HAVE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT THAT REALLY SUMMARIZED THAT IN THE REPORT.
BUT OUR UNDERSTANDING OF IT AND THE THINGS, AND THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE DEC VERY, VERY CLOSELY, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE IN THE BROWNFIELD CLEANUP PROGRAM.
THEY'RE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THE D-E-C-D-E-C DICTATES THE PROCESS THAT THEY GO THROUGH.
THERE'S A REMEDIAL INVESTIGATION WORK PLAN THAT IDENTIFIES ALL OF THESE AREAS.
AND THERE'S COPY OF THAT THAT'S CURRENTLY UNDER REVIEW BY THE DEC.
AND THAT WILL ULTIMATELY LEAD TO A REMEDIAL ACTION WORK PLAN, WHICH IS WHAT DICTATES THE CLEANUP AND HOW THINGS ARE GONNA BE REMOVED AND BREAKDOWN OF THE DIFFERENT AREAS.
AND AS YOU SAID, IT'S BEING REMEDIATED TO THE HIGHEST LEVEL, WHICH IS AN UNRESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL.
STA I, WELL JUST, I DON'T WANNA MISSPEAK.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE HIGHEST HIGHEST, BUT IT'S UNRESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL STANDARDS, WHICH AGAIN, IS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
YOU CAN, IT'S ALL BEING REMOVED FROM THE YEARS AGO.
WE DID THE SAME THING WITH VALMORE, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS A MAJOR CLEANUP AND THEY DID A GREAT JOB WITH THAT.
FOR RESIDENTIAL? FOR RESIDENTIAL.
I JUST, WHEN YOU SAY HIGHEST FOR RESIDENTIAL, I WAS WAITING FOR YOU TO FINISH OUT THE, OTHERWISE THEY, THEY ARE SAYING THAT IT'S SAFE TO PUT A RESIDENTIAL HOME WITH A BACKYARD AND KIDS PLAYING IN THE BACKYARD, PLAYING WITH THE, AND PETS IN THE SORTS PETS.
YOU CAN LAY DOWN AND DO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ALL IN THE GRASS.
SO, BUT AGAIN, UNRESTRICTED RESIDENTIAL STANDARD IS WHAT IT'S BEING CLEANED UP TO.
UM, LIKE WITH THAT, WITH THAT BEING SAID, AGAIN, WE ARE WORKING THROUGH THE PROCESS WITH DEC THAT WILL HAPPEN OVER THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS.
AND, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING THAT THE DRAFT REMEDIAL WORK ACTION WORK PLAN WILL BE SUBMITTED TO THEM BEFORE THE END OF THIS MONTH.
AT THAT POINT, IT KIND OF TRIGGERS ADDITIONAL REVIEW PERIODS.
THERE'S A 45 DAY PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, AND THEN HOPEFULLY THAT LEADS TO ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND YOU END UP WITH A FINAL REMEDIAL ELECTION WORK PLAN AND THEN THE DE C'S DECISION DOCUMENT, WHICH ALLOWS US TO MOVE FORWARD.
AGAIN, THE MAIN REASON WHY WE'RE BACK HERE, THIS WAS ALL OBLIGATED UNDER OUR APPROVAL.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
UM, BUT THERE ARE SOME CHANGES AS A RESULT OF THAT TO THE PLAN, WHICH INCLUDES ADDITIONAL DISTURBANCE AREAS BECAUSE WE'RE EXTENDING WITHIN INTO THESE AREAS TO REMEDIATE THOSE AREAS, INCLUDING THE ENTIRE, UH, PARK PARCEL ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PROPERTY THERE.
SO THE ENTIRE PARK PARCEL WAS PART OF THE REMEDIAL ACTION WORK PLAN, OR IS GOING TO BE PART OF THE REMEDIAL ACTION WORK PLAN AND WILL BE REMEDIATED TO THAT, UH, RESIDENTIAL STANDARD AS WELL.
SO IT'S THE SAME LEVEL THAT IT'S BEING.
SO YOU CAN ROLL AROUND IN THAT GLASS GRASS ALSO
UM, SO ALL OF THAT IS BEING DONE.
SO THERE'S ADDITIONAL TREE REMOVALS THAT WILL BE DONE AS PART OF THIS PROCESS BECAUSE YOU CAN'T REMEDIATE THE
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SOIL AROUND THE TREE AND LEAVE THE TREE IN PLACE.UM, HOWEVER, I WOULD POINT OUT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, WE HAVE A ROBUST THEN EXTENSIVE LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT'S BEING PROVIDED AS PART OF THIS PROJECT.
I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY 10 TIMES WHAT IS REQUIRED BY YOUR CODE, UH, IS BEING PROVIDED FROM A PLANTING PLAN STANDPOINT.
YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE WHOLE NEW TREE ORDINANCE WITH THE I TREE CALCULATIONS, UH, WE ARE 10 TIMES HIGHER THAN WHAT IS REQUIRED BY YOUR ORDINANCE.
IT IS, CORRECT? YEAH, THE HIGHER STANDARD, YES.
AND IF I MAY, THE SIZE OF THE TREES ARE GOING TO BE PLANTED.
FOUR INCH CALIBER TREES, THREE INCH CALIBER.
IT'S REALLY VARIES THROUGHOUT.
THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER OF TREES.
UH, WE COULD GET YOU AN EXACT NUMBER.
THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS TO THE LAND, THE MICROPHONE.
SO THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT COMPONENTS OF THE LANDSCAPING PLAN.
THERE'S THE STREET TREES THAT ARE GOING IN ALONG ALL OF THE TREE.
UH, THE, THE ROADWAYS THAT ARE BEING CONSTRUCTED.
THERE ARE THE, UH, PLANTING PALLETS THAT HAVE BEEN PREPARED FOR THE INDIVIDUAL LOTS, UH, DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY THE HOME FACES NORTH, SOUTH, EAST, WEST.
AND, UH, BECAUSE OF THE ADDITIONAL DISTURBANCE WE'RE PREPARING CONSERVATION AREA ENHANCEMENT PLANS, UM, WHICH ARE CURRENTLY UNDER DEVELOPMENT, ARE GONNA BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING BOARD.
NUMBER ONE, THE REASON I ASKED OF COURSE, IS THAT FOR FLOOD REMEDIATION, UM, TREES ABSORB SO MUCH WATER, BUT THE SMALLER THE TREES, THE LESS WATER THEY, THEY WILL ABSORB.
SO, UM, I TRUST THAT YOU'RE, YOU'RE PLANTING TREES A A NUMBER OF TREES TO KIND COMPENSATE FOR THE ONES YOU'RE TAKING DOWN, NUMBER ONE.
UM, AND UH, NUMBER TWO, ARE THEY NATIVE? ARE YOU PLANNING ON NATIVE TREES? YEAH.
SO, SO TWO, TWO OF THE REQUIREMENTS, SO YOUR TOWN CODE AND THE TREE ORDINANCE REQUIRES, UM, SORT OF THE COMPENSATORY TREE PLANTING.
THEY LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING REMOVED AND THEN THEY LOOKED AT THE TREES THAT ARE BEING PLANTED, AND THEN THEY LOOK AT THE GROWTH OF THEM OVER TIME.
OBVIOUSLY YOU CANNOT PLANT A 30 INCH CALIPER TREE TODAY, BUT YOU COULD PLAN FOR IT IN THE FUTURE.
SO THERE'S TREES THAT HAVE A SPECIFIC VALUE BASED ON THEIR PLANTINGS THAT'S GONNA HAPPEN TODAY AND HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA GROW OVER THE NEXT 20 OR 25 YEARS.
SO, UH, THE CODE VERY SPECIFICALLY LOOKS AT THAT, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE WORK CLOSELY, UM, WITH YOUR, UM, UH, PLANNING AND, UH, DEPARTMENT TO GO THROUGH THAT.
AND IT'S VERY SPECIFIC CALCULATIONS.
AND THEN AS FAR AS THE NATIVE PLANTINGS, I CAN ASSURE YOU YOUR STAFF FOCUSES IN ON THAT VERY SPECIFICALLY, AND IT'S ONE OF THE FIRST COMMENTS THAT COMES OUT.
UH, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM BACK AND FORTH ON THESE LANDSCAPING PLANS AND THEY ARE, UH, HYPER-FOCUSED ON THIS SPECIFIC SPECIES TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE NATIVE, UM, TO THIS ESTIMATE.
WELL, GOING BACK TO THE FLOOD REMEDIATION QUESTION, SINCE THE TREES WILL BE CONSIDERABLY SMALLER AND YOU'RE PLANNING ON THE GROWTH IN TERMS OF YOUR FLOOD REMEDIATION WORK THAT YOU'LL BE DOING IN ANY CASE, UM, SO YOU'RE TAKING THAT INTO CONSIDERATION THE, THE FACT THAT THE TREES ARE SMALLER AND LESS ABSORBENT? YEAH, SO AS, AS PART OF THIS PROJECT, AND THIS IS GETTING INTO, UM, SOMETHING, AGAIN, IT'S PART OF THE PROJECT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S SOMEWHAT BEEN REVIEWED ALREADY AND APPROVED AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
THAT'S NOT CHANGING AS A RESULT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BUT WE HAD A STORMWATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN THAT'S BEEN PREPARED FOR THE PROJECT THAT LOOKS AT ALL OF THE IMPERVIOUS AREAS, WHERE'S THE WATER DRAINING TO, AND WE HAVE A NUMBER OF STORMWATER PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THE PROPERTY PONDS, INFILTRATION, ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT PRACTICES THAT COLLECTS THAT.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, BASED ON YOUR CODE REQUIREMENTS, EACH INDIVIDUAL HOME HAS A STORMWATER MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AS WELL, UM, BECAUSE IT REQUIRES A SMALLER STORMWATER SYSTEM BEFORE IT ENTERS THE LARGER, UH, CONTAINMENT SYSTEM.
SO IT LOOKS AT ALL OF THAT AND IT LOOKS AT THE RAINFALL DATA SO THAT IT COULD BE, UH, CONTROLLED ON SITE.
UM, AGAIN, JUST, I DON'T, I DON'T TO GET INTO THE DETAILS, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE PROVIDED A SEEKER ANALYSIS AND A COM SORT OF A COMPARATIVE ANALYSIS OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE, UH, DISTURBANCE AREA NUMBER OF TREES TO BE REMOVED.
ALL OF THAT WAS SUMMARIZED IN THE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, UH, UH, TO STAFF AND TO YOUR BOARD.
SO IT'S SOMETHING FOR YOU TO, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT AT THIS POINT.
I KNOW GARRETT WILL TOUCH ON PROCESS, BUT I THINK WE'RE REALLY LOOKING, UM, FOR A RECOMMENDATION OR A REFERRAL TO THE PLANNING BOARD SO WE CAN INITIATE THAT PROCESS WITH THEM AS WELL.
CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? COULD YOU GIVE US LIKE A, LIKE A IDEA IN TERMS OF SCHEDULING, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN, UH, CONSTRUCTION'S GONNA START, WHEN YOU ANTICIPATE THE HOMES WILL BE, YOU KNOW, COMPLETED, UH, YOU KNOW, THE, THE PROGRESS WITH, UH, THE STATE, UH, UH, ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
UH, SO IS THIS GONNA BE LIKE A 2026, 2027 OR 2028 PROJECT? AND HOW LONG WILL IT IS GONNA BE? FOUR YEARS, FIVE YEARS.
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GONNA TAKE UNTIL EVERYTHING'S DONE? I I, I'M GONNA DEFER, UH, THAT QUESTION.WE'LL GET YOU SOME INFORMATION ON SPECIFIC DATES.
UM, IF YOU ASKED ME RIGHT NOW, THEY WOULD SAY AS SOON AS PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE, THEY WOULD LOVE THEIR APPROVALS AND THEY WOULD LOVE TO START, UH, MOVING DIRT YESTERDAY IF THEY COULD TO START BUILDING THIS PROJECT.
UH, FORTUNATELY OR UNFORT, HOWEVER YOU WANNA LOOK AT IT, WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE DEC, WE HAVE HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVALS, WE HAVE FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
THERE'S STILL A NUMBER OF STEPS THAT NEED TO BE SATISFIED BEFORE WE CAN PUT A SHOVEL IN THE GROUND.
SO DO YOU THINK THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THE SHOVEL COULD BE IN THE GROUND, UH, IN 2026? UH, OR DO YOU THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, MORE LIKELY 2027? NO, I WOULD HOPE IT'S 2026.
AND THEN WANNA MAKE SOME MONEY TOO.
YOU WANNA MAKE SOME OF YOUR MONEY BACK TOO
THEY NEED ALL THE APPROVALS IN PLACE AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, THEY'RE EXCITED TO GET MOVING AS QUICKLY AS PHYSICAL POSSIBLE.
ARE, ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD IT IN SUBDIVISIONS AS YOU, AS YOU SELL? ARE YOU, YOU KNOW, HOW, WHAT IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN TERMS OF, OKAY, SO THAT IS, IT GETS A LITTLE MORE TRICKY IN THIS CASE BECAUSE THERE'S THE REMEDIATION ASPECT OF THIS.
THE ENTIRE SITE NEEDS TO BE REMEDIATED.
SO THAT'S REALLY THE, THE KIND OF THE FIRST STAGE WHERE YOU'RE GONNA GO THROUGH AND REMEDIATE AND THEN YOU'LL START CONSTRUCTING ROADWAYS AND EVERYTHING THROUGHOUT.
UH, THE ROADWAYS AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE WOULD ALL BE CONSTRUCTED AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THEY'LL BE CONSTRUCTING THE HOMES.
BUT THE INTENTION, AT LEAST OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THE WHOLE PROJECT WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED IN SORT OF, IT'S, IT'S ONE, IT'S AT ONE TIME.
IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE BUILDING HALF THE HOMES NOW AND COMING BACK FIVE YEARS DOWN THE ROAD AND THE OTHER HALF OF THE HOMES WOULD BE CONSTRUCTED.
THE INTENTION IS TO MOVE THROUGH THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT.
YEAH, THAT'S JUST KIND OF GOOD TO KNOW.
ALRIGHT, SO JUST FOCUSING ON PROCESS, I DO BELIEVE IS VERY REASONABLE TO WORK UNDER THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT THE TOWN BOARD DID AND THE APPLICANT PRESENTED AT THE TIME OF THE PROJECT, UM, IN TERMS OF DEPTH OF SOIL EXCAVATION, DIDN'T HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE, THE GRIDS AND THE HUNDRED DIFFERENT AREAS THAT THEY EXCAVATED, UH, MORE RECENTLY AS PART OF THE DEC.
SO IT DOES TURN OUT THAT THE, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S MORE EXCAVATION THAN ANTICIPATED.
THEY DID ASPIRE TO KEEP OPEN SPACE AREAS.
I THINK THAT WAS A, A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION IN THE PERIPHERY AREAS.
IT TURNS OUT THE DEC WANTS THOSE AREAS FULLY REMEDIATED AND EXCAVATED.
SO FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE, THESE ARE IDENTIFIED AS UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS.
SO THEREFORE, FROM A SECRET PERSPECTIVE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT WOULD, UM, BE OF ANYONE'S BENEFIT TO REVIEW A LESSER SCALED DOWN PROJECT TO SEE IF PERHAPS SOME OF THOSE AREAS COULD BE RETAINED.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT WOULD BE RATIONAL, RIGHT? IT CAN'T CUT HALF THE HOMES AWAY OR REDUCE THE SITE BY HALF THE AMOUNT OF DENSITY IN LIEU OF PRESERVING, YOU KNOW, SIX ACRES THAT WERE ORIGINALLY ANTICIPATED TO BE PRESERVED.
SO IN LIGHT OF THESE UNAVOIDABLE IMPACTS, WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT THE TOWN BOARD HOLD A PUBLIC HEARING, ALLOW THE PUBLIC TO, YOU KNOW, UNDERSTAND WHAT THESE CHANGES ARE, THE REASONS THE CHANGES ARE BEING MADE, AND FOLLOWING A PUBLIC HEARING, THE TOWN BOARD WILL BE IN A POSITION TO AMEND THE SEEKER FINDINGS, WHICH MEMORIALIZES THAT THE 113 HOMES, THE ORIGINAL LAYOUT ARE ALL RATIONAL, GOOD PLANNING, DEVELOPMENT, AND, UM, BUT DOES DOT THE, I'S CROSS THE T'S AS FAR AS THESE ADDITIONAL TREE REMOVALS AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO WITH ALL THAT DATA, AND WE HAVE GIVEN THE APPLICANT SOME ACTION ITEMS IN TERMS OF THESE NEWLY DISTURBED AREAS, WE WANNA ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE SUSTAINABLE RE FORESTED, UH, GAME PLANS, IF YOU WILL.
UM, SO THEY'RE WORKING HARD AT THAT.
WITH ALL THAT INFORMATION, WE'RE GONNA RECOMMEND A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE TOWN BOARD, LIKE I INDICATED, AND THEN WORK TOWARDS AMENDED SEEKER FINDINGS.
CONCURRENTLY, THE PLANNING BOARD WILL HAVE TO, UH, STILL HAS TO DO FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL.
SO WE'LL HAVE KIND OF CONCURRENT PROCESS AND WE'LL START WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE TOWN BOARD WHILE THEY'RE SIMULTANEOUSLY, UH, PLANNING BOARD WORK SESSION, GETTING THE, THE, THE BOARD FAMILIAR WITH THESE SIMILAR UPDATES AND REALLY LANDED A PLACE WHERE, UH, AMENDED SEEKER FINDINGS CAN LEAD TO AN AMENDED, UH, OR FINAL SUBDIVISION APPROVAL OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
SO, UH, I THINK PROCESS WISE, WE HAD, WE DID CHECK IN WITH LABEL WHO WAS THE, UH, TOWNS CONSULTANT ALL ALONG PLANNING PROFESSIONALS.
AND THEY, THEY FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROCESS OF AN AMENDED SEEKER FINDING AS OPPOSED TO SOMETHING LIKE, UM, MORE RIGOROUS WITH THE NEW FINDINGS AT THE END OF THE DAY, IS IT GOING TO LOOK LIKE THE ORIGINAL? VERY MUCH SO, YES.
AND EVERY ASPECT, UM, SIMILAR NUMBER OF STORMWATER BASINS, IT'S ALL THE SAME SIMILAR GEOMETRY OF, UH, OPEN SPACE AREAS, 14.2 ACRES OF LAND TRANSFER, WHICH WILL BE, UH, CLEAN LAND FOR THE TOWN TO PLAN FOR ITS PARK, UH, SIDEWALKS.
ALL OF THAT WILL BE CONSISTENT.
IT'S REALLY JUST THESE EXTRA, UH, DISTURBANCE AREAS.
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WE DO FEEL THAT WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT THERE WILL, AND THE PLANNING BOARD, THERE WILL BE PROPER MITIGATIONS THAT CAN ENSURE THAT EVERYTHING'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I THINK EVERYONE ENVISIONED, WHICH IS HIGH QUALITY PROJECT THAT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO LIVE IN.I APPRECIATE TOO HOW WELL-INFORMED AND HOW, UM, CLEARLY YOU EXPLAINED EVERYTHING, SO THANK YOU.
YOU HONOR, I, I REALLY THINK IT'S VERY REASSURING THAT YOU'RE DOING EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE HOMES ARE, YOU KNOW, BUILT, THAT IT WILL BE VERY SAFE AND PEOPLE WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY CONTAMINATIONS, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK THIS IS VERY REASSURING FOR, FOR THE PROPERTY AND FOR POTENTIAL, UM, HOMEOWNERS.
SO I'M VERY, VERY PLEASED WITH THIS PRESENTATION.
JUST ONE FINAL NOTE, 'CAUSE I DO RECALL SOMEONE ASKING, MAYBE IT WAS YOU SUPERVISOR, ABOUT THE, UH, ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SPRAINED PARKWAY.
AND, UH, THE CLEANUP WORK THAT WILL BE DONE ON THE 14 ACRES WILL FACILITATE, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, A NEW DRIVEWAY ENTRANCE TO THE EASTBROOK PARK.
AND, UH, THAT NEW DRIVEWAY WILL FACILITATE, UH, THE ACTIVE PLANNING OF NEW YORK STATE DOT, WHO ARE D INDEPENDENTLY DESIGNING, UH, THE RAMPS TO ALIGN THE SOUTHBOUND, UH, ON AND OFF RAMPS TO ALIGN THE, WITH THE NEW SIGNAL OF THE SP YES.
TO THE SPRAIN BROTHER THAT ROAD.
SO THAT, UH, THEIR PROJECT IS ACTUALLY FACILITATING THAT VERY IMPORTANT, UH, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT AND, AND THE TRANSPORTATION CHANGES ALIGN WITH WHAT'S ALREADY BEEN PLANNED IN TERMS OF THE ROADWAYS THAT ARE PLANNED AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
WE ACTUALLY A HUNDRED PERCENT AND WE'VE WORKED WITH STAFF TO MAKE SURE IT'S COORDINATED WITH SOME OF THE PRELIMINARY, YOU KNOW, CONCEPTS THAT HAVE BEEN LOOKED AT FOR THE PARK SO THAT EVERYTHING KIND OF WORKS TOGETHER.
THE APPLICANT ACTUALLY DESIGNED THE NEW PARK ENTRANCE TO DOT SPECIFICATIONS, AND WE MET IN THE FIELD WITH, UH, PARKS COMMISSIONER, DPW, UH, DOT.
SO ULTIMATELY IT'S BEEN, UH, IT IS A PARTNERSHIP.
IT TRULY IS A PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE TOWN DOT AND, AND THIS APPLICANT.
LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE PARK.
UH, WILL THE TOWN GET THE PARK BEFORE, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL THE HOMES ARE, UH, YOU KNOW, ARE COMPLETED LIKE EARLIER ON? UH, OR WILL WE HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL, YOU KNOW, ALL THE HOMES ARE OCCUPIED? SO GENERALLY THE THRESHOLD IS GONNA BE, UH, THE CLEANUP, BUT HAVING SAID THAT, AS CLEANUP IS ACTIVE, THERE WILL BE PLANNING TO, FOR THE TOWN TO, UH, GO TO BID ON A NEW ROADWAY ENTRANCE INN.
UH, SO I, THE REALLY, THE THRESHOLD IS ONCE THE DEC DEEMS THAT 14.2 ACRES, UH, REMEDIATED, THEN THE TOWN'S IN FULL POSITION TO, UH, HAVE THAT LAND TRANSFER GO THROUGH.
SO WE COULD HAVE TRANSFERRED POSSIBLY IN 2027, UH, IDEALLY 2026 SIX.
UM, IT'S, IT'S CONTINGENT OBVIOUSLY ON THE CLEANUP, BUT ALSO THAT ALL OF OUR APPROVALS AND ENTITLEMENTS ARE IN PLACE AND WE'RE READY TO START.
BECAUSE I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH DOREEN LIPSON, I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT HER CONCEPT OF A UNIVERSAL, UM, YOU KNOW, PLAYGROUND FOR THE DISABLED.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA BE, IF WE'RE STARTING TO WORK, TRYING TO SEE IF THERE'S GRANTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE, WE ACTUALLY, THIS IS RIGHT NOW THE TIME THAT WE SHOULD START, YOU KNOW, WORKING ON IT RATHER THAN WAIT, I WOULD THINK, WHICH WE STARTED MANY MONTHS AGO.
NO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF SAYING IF WE COULD GET ADDITIONAL, YOU KNOW, LIKE FOUNDATION GRANTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ONLY GOVERNMENT.
I'M, 'CAUSE I, I JUST LOVE THE IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING FOR THE DISABLED THAT WOULD BE REALLY SPECIAL.
THE, THE QUICKER WE COULD GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THE PLANNING BOARD GET OUR FINAL APPROVAL, THE SOONER WE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO TRANSFER.
OKAY, NEXT, UH, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
UM, YOU KNOW, KRISTA JUST WANT TO, SHE WANTS TO WORK ON, WE ALWAYS, WHEN THEY HAVE THE EMPLOYEE BENEFITS DAY, WE ALWAYS HAVE A BARBECUE.
AND, UM, UH, SHE ASKED IF I COULD ASK THE BOARD IF, UM, SHE COULD, UM, START RESEARCHING AND, UH, AND PLANNING FOR THAT EVENT.
UM, UH, SHE THINKS, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE SANDWICHES RATHER THAN A BARBECUE.
BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF PARTICIPATION FROM THE EMPLOYEES.
SO I JUST WANNA KNOW IF I COULD AUTHORIZE, UH, KRISTA TO START WORKING ON THIS.
WHAT'S THE DATE? IT'S GONNA BE THE END OF OCTOBER.
WHAT'S THE DATE? I THINK IT'S OCT I THINK IT'S OCTOBER 24TH.
SHE EMAILED SHE, OH, OCTOBER, FRIDAY, OCTOBER 24TH AT VETERAN PARK.
AND SHE SAID SHE WANTS A, UM, WE'VE FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS HAD AN EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION LUNCH AND, UH, SHE'S RECOMMENDING THAT WE HAVE CATERED SANDWICHES AND
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PREPARED LUNCH FOOD.AND SHE SAID THAT SHE THINKS IT WOULD BE CHEAPER THAN THE BARBECUE AND UH, SHE JUST WANTS TO GO OUT.
UM, SO SHE'LL GIVE US SOME PROPOSALS.
SHE'LL GIVE US, YEAH, WE COULD GIVE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS.
I COULD ASK HER TO GIVE US A COUPLE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS.
SO IS THAT ALL, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS? NOPE.
I DO LIKE A BARBECUE THOUGH, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF SANDWICHES AND WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS DAIRY AND MEAT AND IT CAUSES COMPLICATIONS.
SO, UM, YEAH, WHATEVER YOU PREFER.
WHILE WE NOT DOING THE, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT DOING, SHE SAID THE, SHE SAID SOME PREFER NOT CHEAPER.
NO, SHE SAID SOME OF, HOLD ON A SECOND.
EMPLOYEES ACTUALLY DIDN'T LIKE THE BARBECUE LAST YEAR AND THEY RECOMMENDED US.
THAT'S WHAT, WHAT TIME? THIS IS USUALLY LIKE A LUNCHTIME OUT HERE FOR FOR JUNETEENTH THEN NIGHTS OUT.
WHAT, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, IF THE BOARD WANTS HER TO, UH, DO YOU, WHAT DO IS ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS JUST SEE WHAT THE QUOTES COME BACK.
WHY DON'T I ASK HER TO, WHY DON'T I ASK HER TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT OPTIONS, SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS.
THEN WE COULD, WHATEVER THE BOARD WANTS OR IT COULD BE A COMBINATION THAT JUST MAKES SENSE.
IF WE, IF WE SEE THE VARIOUS OPTIONS THAT SHE'S GONNA BRING TO US HERE, I'LL TELL HER TO GIVE US BOTH OPTIONS.
THE BARBECUE AND THE SANDWICHES.
OKAY, NOW WE'LL GO THROUGH THE AGENDA.
SO WHY DID WE TAKE OFF? WHY DON'T WE TAKE OFF THE, UM, I KNOW IT'S HAPPENED BEFOREHAND.
NO, I KNOW IT'S, I KNOW THE DEDICATION HAS HAPPENED BEFORE TOWN BOARD MEETING, BUT I THOUGHT WE WOULD JUST HAVE IT UP.
THE STREET DEDICATION WAS TAKEN, TAKEN OFF.
YEAH, JUST TO SAY THAT, THAT'S JUST TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WE HAVE YEAH.
AT AT LEAST WE HAVE IT SO WE CAN JUST SHOW IT HOW THOSE, IT CAN'T GO ON PAGE ONE BECAUSE IT'S VERY TIGHT TO KEEP THE, UH, YEAH.
ALL THE NOTICES OF WHAT NOT TO DO MAYBE RIGHT BEFORE THE UPCOMING TOWN BOARD MEETINGS OR SOMETHING.
WHAT ABOUT ANNOUNCEMENT RIGHT AFTER ROLL CALL.
UH, SO MADAM CLERK, YOU'LL ANNOUNCE THE STREET NAMING.
OH, UH, JOE, COULD YOU, UH, GO OVER THE TB TWO? THAT'S THE WEBSITE PRIVACY POLICY THAT WE DID.
I BELIEVE I MAY HAVE EXPLAINED THAT LAST TIME AS WELL, BUT THAT IS THE POLICY THAT ENSURES THAT USERS OF OUR WEBSITES KNOW THAT, UH, THEIR INFORMATION IS NOT BEING SHARED UNLESS THEY EXPRESSLY GIVE US PERMISSION TO DO SO.
UM, AND IT ALSO, I, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW, BUT I COULD PROVIDE A FURTHER UPDATE TOMORROW AT THE MEETING.
IT ALSO STATES THAT, UM, USERS OF OUR WEBSITE KNOW THAT THE INFORMATION MAY NOT BE COMPLETE AND THEY SHOULD ONLY DO THEIR OWN DUE DILIGENCE TO, TO KNOW THAT THE, UM, INFORMATION IS ACCURATE.
AND THERE'S SOME OTHER ITEMS I COULD GIVE ANOTHER REFRESHER TOMORROW DURING THE, UH, TOWN BOARD MEETING AS WELL.
THAT'S BASICALLY JUST REALLY IS SAYING THAT IF YOU'RE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO SHARE THE, YOU'RE GONNA, IT'S YOUR PRIVACY IS GONNA BE PROTECTED.
UM, AND WE NEED THAT PRIVACY POLICY FOR SOME GRANTS THAT ARE UPCOMING AS WELL.
AND IT'S JUST A GOOD POLICY FOR THE TOWN BOARD TO HAVE THAT IMPLEMENTED.
SO WE PUT IT ON TOMORROW'S AGENDA.
UM, FOR TB THREE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF THE LAW OFFICE OF VINCENT TOY SPECIAL COUNSEL TO ADDRESS TOWN MATTERS CONCERNING PERSONAL RELATED ISSUES FOR AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF 50,000, 300,000 IN TOTAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'VE ALL BEEN GETTING THE EMAILS FROM YOU, SCHWARTZ, AND UM, OTHER PEOPLE, UM, THEY BASICALLY ARE ASKING FOR AN ITEMIZATION.
SO WHAT I'M ASKING FOR BEFORE WE VOTE ON THIS IS IF WE COULD SAY, UM, OUT OF THE $300,000 WE'VE USED, UM, $90,000 FOR THE, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER IT IS, IF IT'S $91,000 FOR, UM, THE ETHICS, UH, UH, BOARD, UM, INVESTIGATIONS, UH, IF WE WOULD SAY, UH, WE'VE USED 50,000 FOR THIS, YOU KNOW, JUST COME UP WITH DIFFERENT CATEGORIES SO THIS WAY THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW EXACTLY HOW THE $300,000 IS BROKEN DOWN.
SO WOULD WE BE ABLE TO HAVE THAT BY TOMORROW? SO, SO AS I'VE EXPLAINED IN THE PAST WITH WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE AND TOWN LAWS IN TERMS OF, UM, ISSUING INFORMATION ABOUT THESE MATTERS, UNLIKE OTHER RESOLUTIONS THAT DEAL WITH COURT CASES, THAT THE PERSON'S NAME IS ALREADY PUBLIC RECORD.
A LOT OF THE ITEMS THAT, UH, TOMI DEALS WITH AND HAS DEALT WITH OVER THE PAST THREE DECADES FOR THE TOWN ARE ITEMS THAT ARE MAYBE AT THE BEGINNINGS OF INVESTIGATIONS.
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NO WRONGDOING FOUND AT THIS TIME.AND, UM, THESE GENTLEMEN WHO CONTINUE TO WRITE TO US OVER AND OVER AGAIN ABOUT THIS ISSUE HAVE FOILED THE INFORMATION.
WE HAVE COMPLIED WITH THOSE FOIL REQUESTS.
UM, I THINK WE HAVE DONE SO IN A WAY THAT IS LEGAL AND PROPER.
BUT, AND IT'S THE SAME GROUP, SMALL GROUP.
IT'S NOT A, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S THE SAME GROUP THAT KEEP REQUESTING THE INFORMATION OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND IF YOU LEAD THEM TO BELIEVE THAT THEY CAN GET THE INFORMATION, THEN IT'S HARD TO ROLL THAT BACK.
BUT WE ARE COM IN COMPLIANCE WITH LAW AND I THINK THAT, UM, OUR TOWN ATTORNEYS MADE THAT VERY CLEAR.
WELL, THE REASON WHY I DISAGREE IS BASICALLY EVERY TIME WE'VE HIRED LAWYERS, WE ALWAYS SPECIFY WHAT THE LAWYER IS.
THESE ARE PERSONNEL RELATED ISSUES.
NO, BUT I THINK THE TOWN ATTORNEY JUST EXPLAINED THAT.
I GUESS YOU WEREN'T LISTENING.
I'M HOLDING THIS OVER TOMORROW.
I JUST SAID I'M HOLDING IT OVER.
WE TALK ABOUT, BUT WE CAN'T TALK ABOUT PERSONNEL ISSUES OVER, I'M HOLDING OVER TB THREE.
ALRIGHT, WE GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE THING.
DO YOU HAVE THE SAME THING TO SAY ABOUT TB FOUR? NO, BECAUSE, UH, WE'RE SPECIFYING EXACTLY HOW IT'S BEING USED.
THAT'S A SPECIAL COUNSEL THAT HELPS HIM.
RIGHT, BECAUSE THAT'S THE EDGEMONT INCORPORATION OBJECT.
NO, THAT'S EDGEMONT INCORPORATION AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE SPECIFIED PAUL, YOU COULD USE THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, WE WOULD'VE USED THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, BUT IN THEIR WISDOM, THEY DECIDED TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT, UH, PEOPLE IN THE TOWN, UH, UH, EMPLOYEE, UH, DON'T HAVE LEGAL COUNSEL.
SO THEY SAID, OH, WE MAY CALL YOUR TOWN ATTORNEY AS A WITNESS.
SO NOW WE DIDN'T HAVE A CHOICE BUT TO HAVE SPECIAL COUNSEL.
WELL, JUST TO CLARIFY, THEY, THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE REQUESTING THE BREAKDOWN WHAT IS WELL, BUT SUPERVISOR, YOU HAD A CHOICE TO USE THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
IT WAS NOT TAKEN AWAY FROM YOU.
THAT WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM THE REST OF US ON THE BOARD.
OKAY, LET ME, LET ME SAY, ALL I'M ASKING WITH VINCENT TOOMEY IS I WANT TO BREAK DOWN OF, UM, UH, HOW MUCH MONEY, UH, WE'RE SPENDING ON DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.
SO IF HE'S SPENDING, UH, SO IF THE $300,000 IS, UM, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S $200,000 ON, UH, EMPLOYEE, UH, REPRESENTATION, WE COULD SAY $200,000 FOR, UH, EMPLOYEES.
NO, NO, I'M SAYING I JUST WANTED, IF IT'S 91,000, IF IT'S A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR, UH, THE ETHICS BOARD, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT WE COULD SAY, UH, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF THE LAW OFFICE OF, UH, VINCENT TOY FOR AN AMOUNT OF $50,000.
AND WE COULD SAY NONE OF THIS ZERO AMOUNT IS BEING USED FOR THE ETHICS, UH, BOARD, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, TB ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, MATTER OR WE COULD SAY THAT $10,000 IS BEING USED THIS WAY THE PUBLIC WOULD KNOW EXACTLY.
LET'S OUR TOWN ATTORNEY RESPOND.
WE'RE SPENDING THE MONEY FOR IT.
IT'S BASICALLY, IT'S BASICALLY A TRANSPARENCY.
LET, DON'T HAVE OUR TOWN ATTORNEY.
SO TYPICALLY, JUST TYPICALLY YOU ARE AUTHORIZING FUTURE EXPENSES.
AND WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO DETAIL AT THIS MOMENT HOW MUCH WOULD BE USED FOR THE BOARD OF ETHICS CASE.
AND MY, I I FEEL LIKE THAT CASE SHOULD HAVE BEEN
SO I, I THINK IT IS A, A WASTE OF MONEY.
IT'S FORCED UPON US, BUT IT'S FORCED.
I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THIS CASE BE RESOLVED AND TO MOVE FORWARD.
IT REALLY ISN'T FORCED BECAUSE WE COULD WITHDRAW OUR TB ONE, WE COULD ASK THE ETHICS BOARD NO, BECAUSE YOU WANT IT, NOT BECAUSE THE REST OF US WHO HAVE BEEN IMPLICATED WITH YOUR THE WHY WOULD, WHY YOU THINK IT'S OKAY FOR SOMEBODY TO DEVELOP A CORPORATION TO HELP DEVELOPERS DEVELOP PROPERTY.
AND HAVE THOSE SAME PEOPLE COME BEFORE BO UH, PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS WHO WOULD THEN VOTE ON SUPPOSEDLY IMPARTIALLY A PROPERTY THAT THEY HELPED DEVELOP.
WHY DO YOU THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE? LEMME SAY THAT'S QUESTION.
LEMME SAY, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO ARGUMENT ALL ON
WAIT, THEY COULD HAVE, LEMME JUST, THEY COULD HAVE DONE IN ARTICLE 78, THEY CHOSE NOT TO DO THAT.
IF SOMEBODY DISAGREES WITH SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD DOES, THEY CAN FILE AN ARTICLE 78 AND HAVE THAT OVERTURNED.
THEY INTEND INSTEAD WENT THIS ROUTE AND THEN SAID THAT THEY MAY CALL OUR TOWN ATTORNEY AS A WITNESS.
SO, HEY, HE CAN'T REPRESENT THE REST OF US.
AND SO NOW WE HAVE TO GET SPECIAL COUNSEL.
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UM, IMPEDIMENT.YOU COULD HAVE USED THE TOWN ATTORNEY FOR YOUR, YOUR, YOUR SPECIAL COUNSEL THAT YOU WANT TO VOTE FOR FOR THE EDGEMONT CORPORATION.
BUT LET, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME SPECIFY WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING MY FAILING IS THAT THE MORE THAN $91,000 THAT WE SPENT ALREADY ON MR. TOOMEY TO REPRESENT US ON THE ETHICS BOARD CASE IS A TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY.
AND IT'S, TO ME, IT'S LIKE, UH, AN IT'S, YOU KNOW, LEMME EXPLAIN WHY AGREE WITH YOU WANT WE AGREE, WE ALL AGREE IT SHOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED.
I'M SAYING, AND JUST SO THAT YOU CAN GET IT THE WAY THAT YOU WANT IT IS NOT, NOT THE REASON.
NO, I'M SAYING I'M LIKE SO THRILLED THAT WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT.
THIS IS LIKE AMAZING SET UP BY SAY GROUP, SAY CERTAIN PEOPLE, I AM SO THRILLED THAT WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT WE'RE WASTING $91,000.
SO NO, LEMME SAY, OKAY, YOU ENABLE THE, NO, WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO MY SUGGESTION WHY YOU TRY TO KEEP US FROM HAVING WE DOWN THE, I'M SO GLAD THAT EVERYBODY'S IN AGREEMENT AND CONCEPT, BUT WE'RE NOT IN AGREEMENT ABOUT TV ONE.
AND THAT'S NOT, LEMME SAY, LET, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
SO LET'S SAY, LET'S SAY INSTEAD OF SPENDING MORE MONEY ON MR. TOOMEY CONTINUING TO REP REPRESENTED, WHAT IF WE BASICALLY, UM, WROTE TO THE ETHICS BOARD AS, UM, AS NO, LEMME SAY, WAIT, DON'T, DON'T INTERRUPT.
WHY DON'T WE BASICALLY, WHY DON'T WE SAY WE ALL WRITE TO THE ETHICS BOARD.
WE ASK THEM TO, UM, AMEND TO RECOMMEND AMENDMENTS TO THE ETHICS LAWS THAT WOULD INCORPORATE THE CONCERNS THAT FRANCIS WHO, WHO AND SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE.
WHO WOULD, WHO WOULD WHO, I'M SORRY.
WHO WOULD RECOMMEND THE ETHICS BOARD? NO, WE WOULD SAY WE WOULD PUT, SORRY, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT AGAIN? MY, MY RE MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT INSTEAD OF SPENDING MORE MONEY WITH MR. TOY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, FIGHTING TB ONE THAT WE BASICALLY PUT, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO WITHDRAW TB ONE RIGHT NOW, WE COULD BASICALLY PUT TB ONE ON HOLD.
SO THAT PART'S NOT GONNA YOU'RE INTERRUPTING ME.
I JUST DON'T WANT YOU TO WASTE YOUR TIME.
NO, NO, BECAUSE BASICALLY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST LET ME HAVE 30 SECONDS.
SO, SO THE THING IS, I'M SUGGESTING THAT THE ETHICS, WE ASK AS A BOARD, THE ETHICS BOARD TO LOOK AT ALL THE ISSUES.
YOU KNOW, YOU'VE RAISED BECAUSE YOU WANNA HAVE A STRONGER ETHICS LAW.
WE ALL WANT THE STRONGEST ETHICS LAW AS POSSIBLE.
THEN WE COULD PUT EV WE COULD TELL MR. TOOMEY, WE COULD TELL THE ETHICS BOARD TO, UH, TO PUT EVERYTHING ON PAUSE WHILE THEY'RE, UM, WHILE THEY'RE COMING UP WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THEN IF WE COULD TIGHTEN UP THE ETHICS LAWS TO INCLUDE YOUR CONCERNS, HAVE A STRONGER LAW, THEN BASICALLY AFTER THE TOWN BOARD WOULD ENACT A STRONGER LAW, THEN WE COULD WITHDRAW A TB ONE.
AND WE'RE STILL GETTING THE SAME THING BECAUSE WE BASICALLY HAVE A STRONGER LAW AND IT DEALS WITH POTENTIAL CONFLICTS AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING THAT EVERYBODY WANTS.
AND WE'RE NOT SPENDING, UH, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON LEGAL FEES THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS IS A BIG WASTE OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS.
IF I MAY, THEY JUST WANNA REITERATE SOMETHING.
THE, UH, SUPERVISOR IS THE ONLY ONE ON THE BOARD WHO DID NOT SUPPORT TB ONE.
SO HE WAS VERY HAPPY THAT THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE THE ONES WHO WOULD BE CONFLICTED IN BOTH REPRESENTING THIS ORGANIZATION AND THEN RULING AS PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS WHEN THEY DECIDED TO FIGHT IT IN THE WAY IN WHICH THEY CHOSE, WHICH IS THROUGH THE ETHICS BOARD.
SO WHAT YOU'RE TRYING, WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS TO GET THE WAY THAT YOU WANTED IT AGAINST THE WISHES OF THE REST OF THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO DO AWAY WITH TB ONE, WHICH IS A NON-STARTER.
COULD I, COULD I RESPOND AS WELL? SO I, I BELIEVE THAT THERE SHOULD BE A REVIEW OF THE CODE OF ETHICS AT THIS POINT.
IT'S BEEN QUITE SOME TIME SINCE THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES, BUT I THINK THAT'S SEPARATE AND APART FROM THE CURRENT CASE AT HAND.
UM, IN REFERENCE TO THIS SPECIFIC CASE, I THINK WE'RE ALSO MIXING UP WHAT THE ISSUE IS.
IT'S NOT REALLY ABOUT TB ONE, IT'S ABOUT SUPPOSED RETALIATION, WHICH HAS NOT OCCURRED.
UM, THE, THE REASON THAT TB ONE WAS RECOMMENDED TO THE TOWN BOARD BY MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER DUQUE, AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, IS THAT WE FELT THAT AN ISSUE AROSE NOT ONLY WHEN A DEVELOPER CAME TO THE PLANNING BOARD, BUT ACTUALLY PRIOR TO THAT.
SO PRIOR TO THE CODE OF ETHICS, EVEN TAKING EFFECT, YOU COULD HAVE A MEMBER OF THE PLANNING BOARD WHO'S ALSO A MEMBER OF A 5 0 1 C3 NOT PART OF THE TOWN, UM, SPEAKING WITH THE DEVELOPER, HELPING A DEVELOPER GET A PIECE OF LAND AND THEREFORE STOPPING ANOTHER DEVELOPER FROM GETTING THAT PIECE OF LAND.
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FELT A CONFLICT EXISTED WAY BEFORE EVEN REACHING THE PLANNING BOARD AND THAT COULD BRING LIABILITY TO THE TOWN.SO I BELIEVE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF TB ONE, UM, DOES NOT CONFLICT WITH THE CODE OF ETHICS AT ALL AND ACTUALLY TAKES EFFECT PRIOR TO.
THAT'S THE REASON WE PUT IT FORWARD.
AND AGAIN, ANYONE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FILE AN ARTICLE 78 WITHIN FOUR MONTHS OF THAT PASSAGE THAT EXPIRED, UH, A LONG TIME AGO.
BUT SEPARATE AND APART FROM THAT, I WOULD RECOMMEND AN OVERALL REVIEW OF THE CODE OF ETHICS AND THE SPEAKING WITH THE BOARD OF ETHICS TO LOOK AT THAT.
BUT WHY CAN'T YOU KNOW, THE NEXT TIME TB THREE IS ON THE AGENDA, WHY CAN'T YOU DO WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH ALL OTHER, UH, LEGAL, UH, MATTERS AND SAY RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF THE LAW OFFICE OF VINCENT TOY SPECIAL COUNSEL TO ADDRESS, UH, TOWN MATTERS CONCERNING, UH, THE ETHIC, UH, THE ETHICS BOARD INVESTIGATION TOTAL AMOUNT.
SO FOR $91,000, ANOTHER $20,000 REQUESTED THEN AND THEN HAVE ANOTHER CA UH, UH, TB FOUR, WHICH COULD BE, UH, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF, UH, VINCENT TOY TO ADDRESS, UH, TOWN MATTERS CONCERNING ALL OTHER PERSONAL RELATED RELATED.
YOU JUST WANT TO SPLIT INTO TWO? YEAH, IF YOU COULD, IF YOU SPLIT IT IN TWO, THEN AT LEAST, UH, THE PUBLIC WOULD BE ABLE THEN IT THEN WE'RE NOT HIDING AND IT'S MORE TRANSPARENT AND MORE OPEN.
WE'RE, WE'RE NOT BELIEF IF YOU DID THAT, I WON'T HOLD IT OVER IF YOU DID IT, I WON'T OVER, WE'LL HOLD YOU THROUGH THAT.
MY, MY BELIEF IS THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO FUND MR. TOMI BECAUSE YOU WOULD LIKE HIM NOT TO APPEAR TO REPRESENT US BEFORE THE ETHICS BOARD.
BUT THAT'S, BUT I'M NOT GONNA IF IF YOU BASICALLY, BUT I'M SAYING I, I DON'T, I THINK IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY BECAUSE THEY WERE UPSET THAT THE PLANNING BOARD IS FUNCTIONING JUST FINE WITHOUT THEM.
THEY'RE UPSET THAT WE HAVE LEGAL REPRESENTATION.
THEY THOUGHT BY HAVING JOE, UH, BE RECUSED FROM, OR A CONFLICT OF INTEREST BECAUSE HE MAY BE CALLED AS A WITNESS, WOULD PREVENT US FROM HAVING REPRESENTATION.
THIS HAS GONE ON FOR OVER A YEAR.
TALK ABOUT DELAY, DELAY, DELAY HAS GONE ON FOR OVER A YEAR AND WE HAVE NOT ASKED FOR ADJOURNMENTS AND WE HAVE NOT ASKED.
IT'S ALL ON THEIR SIDE AND THEY WANTED TO HAVE ANOTHER ONE.
WE NEED A DECISION ON THIS THING.
WELL, IT'S JUST GOING ON WAY TOO LONG AND YOU ARE ENABLING THEM.
OKAY, WELL, ALL I'M SAYING IS WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS THAT YOU HAVE TWO SEPARATE, UH, RESOLUTIONS RELATING TO MR. TOOMEY ONE, AND THEN THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW HOW MUCH WE SPENT 20, $20,000.
'CAUSE THEY'RE GONNA DELAY MORE AND THEN HE HAS TO COME BACK AND HE HOLDS IT OVER AGAIN.
NO, I I I SAID I'M NOT GONNA, IF YOU, IF YOU HOLD IT OVER EVEN ONCE AFTER WE AGREE HERE, I'M, I'M TELLING YOU WHAT, I'M NOT, I DON'T LIKE HOLDING OVER STUFF.
YOU KNOW, I I COULD BE, HE JUST, I WANT, I WANNA CATEGORIZE, I'M NOT, I'M NOT PUTTING MYSELF IN JEOPARDY.
OKAY THEN I'LL I'M GIVE IT A CHANCE THEN IF YOU WANNA HOLD OVER.
BUT THE THING IS, I'M SAYING I REALLY WOULD, WELL MICHAEL, NOBODY SAID, BUT I ALSO WANNA MAKE A POINT WITH NO ONE HAS BROUGHT THIS TB WALL DOES NOT JUST AFFECT THE PLANNING BOARD.
IT AFFECTS THE TOWN BOARD, IT AFFECTS THE PLANNING BOARD, IT AFFECTS THE ZONING BOARD.
SO I, IF PEOPLE KEEP THINKING THAT WE ARE TARGETING ONE PARTICULAR BOARD, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
BUT YOU KNOW WHAT THE ISSUE IS TRANSPARENCY FOR THE PUBLIC, BECAUSE WE'VE ALWAYS, WELL, THANK GOD FOR FRANCIS FO THEY FOILED HOW MUCH IS BEING SPENT ON THE ETHICS BOARD.
NOW THEY WANNA KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH ALL THE OTHER, UH, PERSONNEL.
BUT THAT'S WHY I'M, THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING BASICALLY IT WAS $250,000.
EVERYTHING ELSE WAS OTHER PEOPLE.
BUT I THE USE OF THE WORD DISCLOSE WHO THE OTHER PEOPLE ARE.
WELL, I'M, AND THE USE OF THE WORD TRANSPARENCY RIGHT, IS REALLY A PAPER TIGER.
BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IS PUTTING PEOPLE, OTHER PEOPLE IN HARM'S WAY.
NO, BECAUSE I'M NOT USING THEIR NAMES.
YOU NO, I I DON'T WANT THE, THE, THE I I HAVE SAID CONSISTENTLY THAT IF, IF, IF YOU SAY THIS IS LABOR MATTERS AND WE DON'T GIVE THE NAMES, THAT'S FINE BECAUSE THE NAMES OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING INVESTIGATED SHOULD NOT BE MADE PUBLIC.
BUT THE GENERAL CATEGORY, IT'S A GENERAL CATEGORY OF, UH, LABOR, UH, ISSUES THAT'S PERSONNEL RELATED RELATING TO THE NON ETHICS.
SO WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE THE SAME LINE AND THEN YOU PUT, YOU CAN PUT ON THERE 91 OR WHATEVER IT IS FOR ETHICS AND THEN THE, AND THE REMAINING, WE KNOW THAT, WELL FOR EXAMPLE, WE KNOW WE SPENT, NOW WE KNOW WHAT WE SPENT NOW.
SO 91 FOR THE ETHICS AND THEN THE SAME, SAME ON THE SAME LINE.
THE REMAINING IS FOR PERSONAL MATTERS, PERSONNEL MATTERS.
BUT I DON'T WANT, I BASICALLY, IF WE ARE GONNA DO, I DON YOU WANTED TO PUT PERSONNEL MATTERS DON'T IN A TRANSPARENT ISSUE, YOU DON'T DO THAT IN ANY COMPANY.
THERE'S JUST TRANSPARENCY IS A WORD THAT EVERYONE USES IN A VERY
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LOOSE MANNER.AND IF, IF YOU, THERE'S NO CLEAR DEFINITION.
IT'S LIKE, I'LL USE ANOTHER EXAMPLE.
TOTALLY DIFFERENT PEOPLE ARE ALL ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT TAXES.
WE ALL ARE WITHOUT REALIZING THAT TAXES INCLUDE AT ROUGHLY 65% OF SCHOOL TAXES, WHICH WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
AND WHICH THEY DO BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE VOTE ON SCHOOL BUDGETS, BUT DON'T VOTE.
SO LET'S JUST BE CLEAR, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TRANSPARENCY, WE HAVE TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS GENERAL THING THAT CAN HURT PEOPLE.
A GENERAL TRANSPARENCY IS IF IN A PEJORATIVE WAY THAT WOULD MAKE IT SEEM LIKE WE HAVE ALL DONE SOMETHING WRONG WHEN WE ARE ALL WORKING REALLY HARD TO MAKE THIS TOWN AS WONDERFUL AS WE FEEL IT IS.
AND WE ARE WORKING WITH OUR, WITH, WITH THE REST OF THE CITIZENS OF THIS WONDERFUL TOWN TO MAKE IT SO, AND WE ARE DOING THE BEST THAT WE CAN DO FOR THEM.
SO TO IMPLY THAT WE'RE BEING LESS THAN ETHICAL, LESS THAN TRANSPARENT ABOUT THINGS THAT COULD HURT PEOPLE IS REALLY, UH, NOT A VERY FAIR THING TO PRESENT.
THERE'S ALSO, AND I KNOW YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS FORENSIC AUDIT THAT'S COMING UP AND YOU'RE TRYING TO MINIMIZE OR DIMINISH THE REST OF THE BOARD, BUT WHAT YOU'RE REALLY TRYING TO DO IS TO MAKE IT SO THAT ELECTED OFFICIALS CAN'T STAY AT OFFICE BECAUSE TO DO IT YOUR WAY, WHEN WE VOTE AT THE DAUS AND WE VOTE A CERTAIN WAY AND INSTEAD OF DOING AN ARTICLE 78, THEY GO TO THE ETHICS BOARD AND THEY SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT THEY DID? THAT'S UNETHICAL.
AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE THE REPRESENTATION OF OUR TOWN ATTORNEY WHEN WE ARE, THERE'S NOBODY HERE EVER, NOT EVEN THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ACCUSING US OF SAYING WE DIDN'T ACT IN OUR LEGISLATIVE CAPACITY IN VOTING FOR TB ONE.
THERE'S NOBODY SAYING THAT WE DID SOMETHING THAT WAS NEFARIOUS OUTSIDE THE SCOPE OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL DUTIES.
NO ONE'S SAYING THAT THEY DISAGREE WITH TB ONE AND THEY HAVE DECIDED TO MAKE IT SO THAT WE NEED LEGAL REPRESENTATION.
NOW WHAT IF THERE ARE THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT GROUPS DOING THAT? EACH ONE OF THEM BRINGING ACCUSATIONS THAT WE NEED TO BE DEFENDED.
AND ACCORDING TO YOU, I GUESS WE HAVE TO USE OUR OWN PERSONAL MONEY TO DEFEND THESE.
EACH ONE OF THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO BASICALLY ARE TRYING TO, THEY, THEY MAKE IT CLEAR THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH US, THEY'RE NOT HAPPY WITH US ON THE BOARD AND MAKE IT SO THAT IT'S NOT FINANCIALLY VIABLE FOR US TO STAY ON THE BOARD.
YOU WANT YOUR REPRESENTATION REPRESENTING SOLELY YOU AND THAT'S GOING TO GO UP TO $200,000.
VINCE TOMI IS $300,000 91 OF WHICH IS DEALING WITH WHAT WE ALL AGREE SHOULD NOT BE BEFORE THE ETHICS BOARD.
THAT'S WHY WE SAY IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY.
IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE.
IT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN THERE.
IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THROUGH AN ARTICLE 78.
BUT TO SAY THAT PEOPLE CAN DO THAT TO ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO VOTE WITH VALID REASONS FOR A PARTICULAR RESOLUTION AND IT FINANCIALLY BANKRUPTS THEM, I THINK THAT'S INAPPROPRIATE.
AND FRANKLY, I THINK PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE THROUGH WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO.
CLERK NIRO AND I ARE ASKING THAT THE FILMING PUBLIC HEARING BE HELD OVER ONE ADDITIONAL MEETING TO SEPTEMBER 24TH PLEASE.
BECAUSE THAT'S NOT SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE A LOCAL
YEAH, IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO HAVE A LOCAL LAW WHEN YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING.
YOU DIDN'T FIND ANYTHING TO DO? NO.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT.
WHEN WE DID ASK FOR INFORMATION REGARDING THAT, THAT CONTRACT, THEY CAME BACK AND THEY SAID THEY'D LIKE TO RENEGOTIATE THE CONTRACT FROM 2024, WHICH OF COURSE IS
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ALREADY PASSED.SO WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT.
SO I DON'T SEE US HAVING, YOU HAVE TO HOLD THAT, UH, HAVING, OR WE OPEN THE HEARING AND THEN SAVE WHAT I JUST SAID.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, CLOSE THE HEARING UNTIL WE ACTUALLY GET SOME DATA.
I HAVE A QUESTION, A LITTLE OFF TOPIC, BUT NOT, SO I WAS IN STOP AND SHOP IN TERRYTOWN.
ISN'T THAT AN UNINCORPORATED AREA? GREENBURG? YES.
SO WE CALL THE POLICE GREENBURG POLICE COME RESPONSE.
SO WHY DO THEY, WHY, WHY IS THERE A TARRYTOWN STICKER LIKE ALARM STICKER ON THE WINDOWS? OKAY, I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? UH, APPARENTLY TARRYTOWN, UM, HAS BEEN REQUIRING THE BUSINESSES TO TAKE OUT THE, THE FIRE PERMIT, YOU KNOW, UH, ALARM PERMITS AND SO FORTH.
I DON'T THINK THAT WE BUILT THAT INTO OUR CONTRACTS, BUT THEY ARE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
AND, UH, WE COULD GET SOME MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
BUT, BUT HOW CAN THEY, HOW CAN THEY CHARGE? I'M SO, I'M SORRY, I'M, I'M CONFUSED.
I JUST, I JUST THOUGHT THAT WAS REALLY, IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT.
UH, FOR, ALSO FOR THE ELMSFORD FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, NORMALLY NOBODY SHOWS UP TO THESE THINGS, BUT I DO THINK BECAUSE OF FAIL AND BECAUSE OF REGENERON, WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES NECESSARY, OR WHAT IS THEIR PLAN IN ORDER TO HANDLE, YOU KNOW, A SITUATION LIKE MONTROSE WITH THE THA HAD A TREMENDOUS FIRE.
UH, HOW WOULD THEY HANDLE THAT? AND ALSO WITH REGENERON, RIGHT? SO IF NOT AT THIS, THIS, UH, UH, MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT OR MAYBE THE FOLLOWING MEETING, UH, WE COULD HAVE SOME KIND OF ANALYSIS OR SOMETHING THAT'S DONE IN ORDER TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, PASSING CONTRACTS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE THE COVERAGE FOR THOSE TWO, PARTICULARLY THERE'S OTHERS, BUT THERE'S TWO MAJOR, MAJOR INDUSTRIES OVER THERE.
FOR, UH, CD ONE THAT'S, UH, RELATING TO, UH, THE, UH, THE GRANT THAT GARRETT WORKED ON.
UM, I SPOKE WITH, UH, ANDREA STEWART COUSINS.
I, I SAW HER AT THE KIWANIS CLUB, UM, UH, CARNIVAL.
AND SHE INDICATED THAT, UH, SHE WOULD BE WILLING TO HELP US, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, WORK ON GETTING THE GRANT.
SO, UH, I WAS VERY, VERY PLEASED.
THAT'S JUST PERTAINING TO, UH, 100 EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE WATER SEWER IMPROVEMENTS.
AND I, I JUST DO WANNA NOTE, UH, TOWN ENGINEER, DEPUTY TOWN ENGINEER, CJ GERARDO.
I JUST, MINOR, MINOR ROLE THERE.
I THINK ANDREA NEEDS LIKE A LETTER, UH, JUST EXPLAINING THE GRANT AND THEN, UM, AND SHE SAID THAT SHE WOULD DEFINITELY, UM, BE AN ADVOCATE, WHICH WOULD BE REALLY AMAZING.
WE'LL FURNISH THAT INFORMATION.
AND THAT'S A GRANT APPLICATION FOR 4.157 MILLION AND ALSO THERE WAS A NINE 1 MILLION, RIGHT? YES.
MAYBE AT THE NEXT, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK SESSION OR WHATEVER, UM, WE COULD JUST, UM, HAVE A DISCUSSION, AN UPDATE ON THE BABBITT COURT.
I SEE THAT THERE'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT, UH, UH, RELATING TO, UH, THE CAPITAL FUND FOR BABAT COURT, CO FOUR.
I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, VALUABLE FOR THE TOWN BOARD JUST TO HAVE LIKE A UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE AND, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE WILL, THE ELEVATIONS ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAPPEN.
SO WE COULD PUT THAT ON ANY, ANY AGENDA THAT YOU WANT.
THAT'S BASICALLY, DO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW HOW THE WIG OUTLET WAS SELECTED? YEAH.
UM, BASICALLY, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT, HI EVERYONE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE DONE? THANK YOU.
IS, UM, WE WORKED WITH, UH, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AND, UH, THE RIVER TOWNS ROTARY, AND, UH, UM, UH, I BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, ASK THAT EVERY OTHER MONTH.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE GROUPS, UM, NOMINATES, UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BUSINESSES, SO IT'S, THE CHAMBER WILL BE DOING IT EVERY OTHER MONTH, AND THE RIVER TOWNS ROTARY WILL DO IT EVERY OTHER MONTH.
BUT I THINK WHAT COUNCIL HIN WAS ASKING WHY THE WIG OUT? WHAT IS THE
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CRITERIA FOR BEING NOMINATED? NO.IS THERE A CERTAIN CRITERIA? SO SOMEBODY HAS TO MEET IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, IN BUSINESS FOR 30, 30 YEARS? 30 YEARS? NO, THEY BASICALLY HAVE DONATED HERE, UH, TO, UH, CHILDREN WHO HAVE CANCER.
SO, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT THIS IS, UH, SO IT LIKE AN APPLICATION OR IS THERE LIKE A SURVEY? NO, NO.
MY QUESTION IS, WHEN WE ARE DOING NOMINATIONS, IS THERE A NOMINATION FORM? IS THERE A SURVEY? WHO ELSE CAN, WHO ELSE CAN, UM, NOMINATE BUSINESSES? HOW DOES THAT PROCESS WORK? WHAT'S THE PROCESS? OKAY, WELL, BASICALLY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I MET WITH THE CHAMBER AND THE RIVER TOWNS AND SPOKE TO THE RIVER TOWNS ROTARY.
UM, WE ASKED RESIDENTS TO, YOU KNOW, NOMINATE, UH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.
AND THEN I REFER TO, UH, UH, BOTH THE CHAMBER AND THE RIVER TOWNS ROTARY.
AND THEN THEY, THEY HAVE THEIR OWN GROUP, AND THEN THEIR GROUP MEETS AND THEN DECIDES OF WHO ARE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE NOMINATED FOR THIS? FOR THIS ONE? OH, WE'VE HAD NOW HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE NOMINATED FOR IT.
YOU SAID THAT THIS IS, YOU SAID YOU GUYS, OH, I HAD, I PROBABLY GOT, SO FOR MAYBE SIX OR SEVEN, UH, YOU KNOW, DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, FROM RESIDENTS.
AND THEN I FORWARD IT TO, YOU KNOW, BOTH GROUPS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS AS THIS THING, AS WE START DOING THIS ON A REGULAR BASIS, THEN MORE, AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WILL SAY, OH, THIS BUSINESS IS, YOU KNOW, HAS DONE SOMETHING.
CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION WHAT YOU COULD, IF YOU WANT, MAY I MAKE A SUGGESTION? YEAH.
SO MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE, IF YOU'RE GOING TO NOMINATE BUSINESS, THEN WE FIND A PLACE ON THE WEBSITE WHERE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO NOMINATE A BUSINESS.
THAT'S, BUT IS THIS A CHAMBER ACTIVITY OR A TOWN ACTIVITY? 'CAUSE IT'S, WELL, IT'S A CHAMBER ACTIVITY, BUT YOU PUT, BUT WE STILL, THE TOWNS DIDN'T, WE DON'T HAVE A SEC, RIGHT? WELL, IF YOU WANT HAVE, THEY'RE JUST NOMINATING.
THEY JUST PUT A DIS HAVE, AND IT GOES RIGHT TO THE RIGHT, IT GOES RIGHT TO THE CHAMBER.
NOTARY ROTARY, BECAUSE THEY HAVE ROTARIES IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, IS THE RIVER TOWNS GOING TO BE DOMINATING, UH, BUSINESSES IN THE VILLAGES.
SO THEN WE'RE GONNA, I'M GONNA, WE'RE GONNA ROTATE.
IT GONNA BE, SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WE'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF, WE'VE GOT A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS FROM, YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESSES, BUT, YOU KNOW, THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT YOU WE'RE JUST STARTING IT RIGHT NOW.
AND AS YOU KNOW, TIME GOES ON, IT COULD EVOLVE AND WE'LL MAKE IT BETTER AND BETTER.
BECAUSE THE GOAL IS REALLY JUST TO RECOGNIZE, UH, BUSINESSES AND HELP PUBLICIZE THE GOOD WORK THAT MANY BUSINESSES ARE DOING.
SO YOU MENTIONED IT'S GONNA BE EVERY OTHER MONTH.
SO ARE WE GONNA HOST IT EVERY OTHER MONTH? YEAH, WE'RE GONNA GIVE THE AWARD EVERY MONTH AT THE, AND THEN, THEN WE'LL PUT IT ON THE WEBSITE.
SO, BUT, BUT WHAT, SO WHAT ARE THE VILLAGES DOING? ARE THEY GONNA DO A SEPARATE CEREMONY? NO, THE VILLAGE IS NO.
SO THE VILLAGES ALSO, THEY INTERACT WITH THE RIVER TOWNS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, NOT THE GREENBURG CHAMBER.
IF THE VILLAGES WANT TO HAVE THEIR OWN, UH, AWARD CEREMONY, THEY COULD DO THE SAME THING.
YOU KNOW, THE, MY FAILING IS THAT WHY ARE WE SEPARATE? WHY ARE WE NOT COMING TOGETHER? WHY ARE WE NOT WORKING TOGETHER CHAMBER, WE ARE WORKING TOGETHER CHAMBERS.
BUT YOU CAN, I I'VE SENT STUFF TO TRUDY ALL THE TIME ABOUT, WELL, ALL THE TIME.
SO THERE ARE TWO CHAMBERS A JOINT.
SO WE CAN HAVE JOINT, I MEAN, NO, ROCHELLE'S ALWAYS INVITING.
QUEENS IS ALWAYS INVITING, YOU KNOW, SO I'M NOT UNDERSTOOD WHY WE'RE SEPARATE.
IT'S NOT REALLY RIVER TOWN'S A NOTARY.
THAT'S NOT A CHAMBER, RIGHT? THE RIVER TOWNS.
'CAUSE I, I WROTE TO THE CHA, THE RIVER TOWNS ROTARY WAS INTERESTED IN THIS.
I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE CHAMBER OF PROMISE, SORRY.
BECAUSE I THINK MOST OF US ON THE BOARD HERE, LEARNING ABOUT THIS NOW.
SO WE HAVE THE RIVER TOWNS ROTARY.
ARE THEY THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA NOMINATE BUSINESSES IN THE VILLAGES, OR IS THERE A CHAMBER IN THE VILLAGES THAT'S GOING TO DO THE, THE RIVER TOWNS ROTARY? UH, I REACHED OUT TO THE CHAMBERS, BOTH THE CHAMBERS AND TARRYTOWN AND, UH, THE RIVER VILLAGES AND, AND THE ROTARY, THEY WERE, WERE NOT, YOU KNOW, THEY DID NOT, UH, RESPOND.
UH, SO BASICALLY THEY, THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT.
SO BASICALLY THE, UH, RIVER TOWNS ROTARY, UM, THEY HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE MEMBERS OF THEIR, UH, THEIR GROUP.
SO THEY BASICALLY, UM, SO THAT THEY WOULD TAKE THIS ON.
BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL IS, YOU KNOW, WE COULD KEEP EXPANDING IT.
IT'S SORT OF LIKE GIVING OUT PROCLAMATIONS.
YOU KNOW, WE GIVE OUT A LOT OF, WE HONOR, UM, RESIDENTS, UH, UH, EACH MONTH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE, YOU KNOW, AT FREQUENT MEETINGS, YOU KNOW, WE DO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO RECOGNIZE ALL THE GOOD WORK THAT RESIDENTS ARE DOING.
SO THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH, I'M NOT TAKING AWAY RECOGNIZING BUSINESS, NOT TAKING AWAY, I DON'T THINK THAT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE TAKING AWAY, I THINK, I THINK THE CLARITY, THE CLARITY HERE IS FOR THE GREENBURG CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
ARE WE HIGHLIGHTING GREENBURG CHAMBER, GREENBURG BUSINESSES, OR WE'RE HIGHLIGHTING BOTH, UH, UNINCORPORATED IN THE VILLAGES.
SO THEY, THEY'RE BOTH, WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
SO THE RIVER, SO IT'S, IT'S JUST THAT WE SAID THAT.
BUT YOU JUST, SO LET ME, BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD AND SOMEONE CAN CORRECT ME.
YOU JUST SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT INTERESTED IN DOING IT.
SO THAT'S THE RIVER TOWNS CHAMBER.
HE'S TRYING, YOU SAID THE RIVER TOWN'S ROTARY AND THE GREENBERG CHAMBER
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ARE WORKING TOGETHER, IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? YEAH.SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL WORKING TOGETHER.
OH, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA, SO WE, SO WE, SO WE ARE HIGHLIGHTING GREENBURG, UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG BUSINESSES.
I'M TRYING TO UNDER, NO, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
APPARENTLY WE'RE GOING 50% OF THE TIME WE'RE GONNA DO UNINCORPORATED AREA.
SO, AND SO WE'RE GONNA GO TO THE VILLAGES TRUSTEES MEETING.
AND SO HOW DOES THAT, I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? IF YOU HAVE A HASTINGS NO, I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SENSE.
IF YOU HAVE A HASTINGS BUSINESS, ARE WE GOING TO GO AND CELEBRATE AT IN HASTINGS WHEN WE, WHEN WE HIGHLIGHT THIS BUSINESS? I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE'RE GONNA DO IT AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
WE WELL, BUT IF, SO MY QUESTION HASN'T BEEN ANSWERED YET.
SO ARE, IF IT'S A HASTINGS BUSINESS AND IT'S PART OF THE RIVER TOWNS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, I JUST ADDED THAT PART FOR CLARITY.
ARE WE GOING TO HASTINGS? IT'S NOT THE RIVER TOWNS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
NO, I, THE ROTARY, I, THAT'S WHAT I SAID IS THAT THEY PART OF THE RIVER TOWNS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
IF THE HASTINGS BUSINESS IS PART OF THE RIVER TOWNS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, ARE WE GOING TO GO TO HASTINGS WHEN WE DO THE OTHER, EVERY OTHER MONTH TO HIGHLIGHT THIS BUSINESS? 'CAUSE THEY ARE BASED IN HASTINGS.
NO, THERE'S GONNA BE THE BACK AND FORTH.
LEMME SAY, LEMME SAY SOMETHING.
IT'S BASICALLY WE'RE GONNA BE RECOGNIZING, UH, BUSINESSES, UM, EVERY MONTH.
BUT THAT DOESN'T ACROSS NO, SO, SO PAUL, ACROSS GREENBURG.
ACROSS GREENBURG, INCLUDING THE VILLAGES, RIGHT.
BUT LET ME SAY, BUT LET THAT WHAT I'M, BUT LEMME JUST SAY ONE OTHER THING.
WHAT THE FACT THAT NOT A RIVER VILLAGE? NO, THE, THE FACT THAT, LEMME JUST SAY SOMETHING.
THE FACT THAT THE, THE FACT THAT, UM, I'M, I WANNA RECOGNIZE THE BUSINESSES, UH, BUSINESS OF THE MONTH DOES NOT PRECLUDE ANY BOARD MEMBER FROM, UH, HONORING ANY BUSINESS THAT YOU LIKE.
SO IF IT WAS UP TO ME, WE WOULD HONOR, UH, UH, WE WOULD HONOR MORE THAN ONE EVERY MONTH.
SO IF, IF, UH, GINA, SO IF THERE'S LIKE A BUSINESS THAT YOU REALLY THINK IS REALLY GREAT, UM, AND YOU WANNA HONOR THEM INDIVIDUALLY, UH, YOU COULD DO IT ALSO.
BECAUSE MY FAILING IS THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF BUSINESSES THAT ARE REALLY GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY, AND MY GOAL IS JUST TO RECOGNIZE THEM.
SO IF, IF WE HAVE TWO OR THREE HONOREES AT EACH MEETING, THAT'S, THAT'S GREAT.
I I WOULD BE REALLY THRILLED WITH THAT.
MY, MY, MY QUESTION AT THE VERY BEGINNING WAS, HOW IS THIS ELECTION MADE? IN OTHER WORDS, IF THERE ARE THREE BUSINESSES, WHAT ARE THE CRITERIA THAT ARE USED TO DETERMINE WHICH ONE GETS THE BUSINESS OF THE MONTH? THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET AT.
IT'S UP TO THE, THE GROUPS THAT PEOPLE RECOMMEND AND THEN THEY DECIDE, AND THEN, UH, THEN YOU, OH, YOU DON'T HAVE A, YOU DON'T HAVE A WRITTEN CRITERIA OF HOW THAT'S GONNA BE DETERMINED? NO.
THEY'LL, YOU HAVE TRUDY EXPLAIN IT TO US AT A MEETING.
YEAH, YOU KNOW WHAT, TO ME THE CRITERIA, IF THEY DO GOOD WORK, DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, IF THEY DO GOOD WORK, WELL THERE TO BE THERE, THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE SOME PROCESS THAT, OR THAT IS IMPLEMENTED BY THE CHAMBER AND THE ROTARY IN MAKING THE SELECTION HOW TO BE, SO IF, IF I, I THINK THAT JOY'S IDEA IS GOOD ONE.
IF THEY, IF YOU WANNA HAVE THEM EXPLAIN IT TO US, HOW THEY REACH THE CONCLUSION OF NOMINATING ANY ONE OF THEM TO BE HONORED? NO, THEY, THEY, AT EACH MEETING, THEY WOULD HAVE TO HIGHLIGHT WELL, WHAT THEY, WHAT THAT'S, IT SHOULDN'T BE A ROLLING CRITERIA.
WHEN WE PUT UP WHATEVER THE THING IS ON WHATEVER WEBSITE, UM, COUNCILMAN JACKSON WANTS TO PUT IT ON, THERE SHOULD BE FOR BUSINESSES TO LOOK AT, HEY, THIS IS WHAT IS NECESSARY FOR ME TO HAVE A CHANCE OF BEING THE BUSINESS OF THE MONTH.
WELL, WE COULDN'T IS IT FOR LIKE COMMUNITY SERVICE OR COMMUNITY SERVICE DONATIONS FOR CHARITY.
WE, YEAH, WE HAVE SOMEBODY WAITING.
WAIT, DID WE APPROVE THE MINUTES? APPROVE WHAT? I BROKE.
EVERYONE'S OKAY WITH THE MINUTES? EVERYONE? THE MINUTES OR THE AGENDA? AGENDA? NOT THE, I MEAN THE AGENDA.
EVERYONE'S OKAY WITH THE AGENDA? WELL, WE'RE HOLDING TWO.
HOLD THE TWO TO, RIGHT? WELL, WELL, YES.
WELL, I GUESS WE'LL, WE'LL OPEN UP, WE'LL OPEN UP THESE FOUR, THE FIRE DISTRICT ONES.
BUT FOR TARRYTOWN, THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE US ANY DATA, SO YOU HOLD THAT OVER.
UM, SO WE CAN'T OBVIOUSLY, UH, HAVE A HEARING ON IT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS RIGHT, SO, RIGHT.
SO I, I MAY MAKE A MOTION JUST FOR, JUST FOR CLARITY AND ALSO A DU OF COURSE IS ON TOMORROW.
JUST FOR CLARITY, I JUST WANT TO, UM, ENSURE THE RESIDENTS ARE AWARE THAT OUR WORK SESSION, UM, HAS BEEN POSTPONED FROM THE 16TH AND IT WILL NOW BE ON FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH AT 12:00 PM AND FOR THE HOLIDAY WE ARE CANCELING THE 20.
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ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA.IT SHOULD BE ON AND UM, ON, IN THE 23RD, WORK SESSION HAS BEEN CANCELED FOR THE HOLIDAY.
AND DO YOU WANT TO, UM, WE'RE ALSO HAVING A STREET NAMING TOMORROW, AND ALSO WE ARE HAVING A STREET NAMING TOMORROW.
AND THAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE PARKING LOT AT 7:00 PM FOUR FOR WHAT? FOUR CLEO OLIVER, SIX 30.
AT THE, UM, AT THE NAME, THE SITE, WHICH IS INDIAN TRAIL, THAT'S JUST A BLOCK AWAY FROM THE TOWN HALL.
YOU WANNA MAKE THE MOTION? YOU COULD WALK ON THE SIDEWALK.
YOU COULD PARK HERE AND WALK ON OUR NEW SIDEWALK.
YOU WANNA MAKE THE MOTION, I MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS, LEADING TO DEPLOYMENT OF PARTICULAR PERSONS TO THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY BOARD AND A PART-TIME EMPLOYEE, AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING PENDING, PROPOSED AND CURRENT LITIGATION.