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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: HCancro@GreenburghNY.com https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings]

RECORDING IN PROGRESS.

UH, WELCOME TARA TOWN BOARD, UH, MEETING, UH, OUR WORK SESSION TODAY IS OCTOBER 7TH, FIVE 30.

AND, UH, WE'RE GOING TO, UH, FIVE 40 HAVE PRE RIGHT PRESENT, UH, THE PRELIMINARY DEPARTMENT, UH, YOU KNOW, BUDGETS.

THESE ARE PROPOSALS BY THE DEPARTMENT HEADS.

UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BY LAW I HAVE TO COME UP WITH A PROPOSED BUDGET, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE WHAT, UH, DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE, UM, ARE REQUESTING, BUT THIS IS THEIR WISHLIST.

AND THEN AFTER I, YOU WANNA PUT YOUR MICROPHONE CLOSER? RIGHT AFTER I PRESENT THE BUD MY PROPOSED BUDGET, THEN THE TOWN BOARD, UH, WILL DECIDE, UM, WHAT THE FINAL BUDGET, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE.

BUT I HAVE TO RELEASE A BUDGET OCTOBER, OCTOBER 30TH.

OKAY.

GREAT.

SO, UH, FIRST ITEM I GUESS, UH, UM, GARRETT, DO YOU WANT TO START SINCE, UH, VENITA ISS NOT HERE RIGHT YET? SHE, SHE CAME IN, SHE'S WORKING ON ADJOURNING HER TO NEXT WEEK.

NEXT WEEK.

SHE'S NEXT WEEK.

SHE WANTS TO DO IT NEXT WEEK.

SHE'S GOING TO GO NEXT WEEK.

YOU MAKE COPIES OF WHAT? OF THE BUDGET FOR PAGE FOR WHICH, FOR WHICH FOR WHICH DEPARTMENT? TAX DEPARTMENT COURT RECREATION.

OKAY.

WELL, YOU COULD JUST PUT ON THE TABLE.

SURE.

I THINK EVERYONE BOUGHT THEIRS.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IN CASE ANYONE NEEDS IT, I BROUGHT COPIES.

ALRIGHT.

THANK.

HE HAS THE TAX ONE.

YEP, WE'RE GOOD.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, .

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

DO YOU WANT TO, UH, SIT IN WHILE, DO YOU HAVE LIKE A HOUR, 45 MINUTES OR WERE YOU LEAVE KIMBERLY'S ON ZOOM.

KIMBERLY'S ON.

OKAY.

OH, KIMBERLY'S ON, SHE'S ON.

I'M SORRY.

SO THIS IS, OKAY, PERFECT.

THIS, THERE'S NO NAME ON THE TOP.

OKAY.

GARY, YOU'RE ON.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

I'M GARY DUANE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.

AND JUST FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC, WE ARE A DEPARTMENT OF MYSELF AND, UH, FIVE FULL-TIME STAFF.

AND OUR PRIMARY ROLE IS, UH, TO LIAISON FOR THE TOWN BOARD, THE PLANNING BOARD, THE ZONING BOARD, THE HISTORIC BOARD CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL.

SO WE ASSIST THOSE BOARDS.

WE ASSIST, UH, RESIDENTS THAT HAVE QUESTIONS WHEN THEY FILE DEVELOPMENT APPLICATIONS.

UH, AND THAT'S ALSO OUR ROLE WHEN PROPERTY OWNERS OR DEVELOPERS SEEK TO DO PROJECTS IN THE TOWN.

OUR DEPARTMENT IS THE HUB FOR A LOT OF THESE LAND USE PROPOSALS.

IN ADDITION, OUR DEPARTMENT DOES A LOT OF GRANT WORK AND ENVIRONMENTAL WORK, WHETHER IT'S TREE PERMITS, UM, WETLAND WATER COURSE PERMITS AND THAT SORT OF THING.

SO, UM, WE REALLY SPAN A LOT OF, UH, DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES IN THE TOWN, BUT PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE, UH, SO HAVING SAID THAT, UH, JUST A COUPLE QUICK UPDATES FROM LAST YEAR.

UH, ONE THING THAT'S DIFFERENT, UH, IN THE YEAR 2025 THAT WAS DIFFERENT LAST YEAR IS WE NOW HAVE A FULL-TIME FORESTRY OFFICER.

SO I THANK YOU FOR THE TOWN BOARD SUPPORT FOR THAT.

OUR TOWN FORESTRY OFFICER IS NOW, UH, FULLY ENGAGED AND HE'S BEEN ON FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND HE'S DOING WELL.

AND I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, CONSISTENT WITH THE COMMITMENT THAT I MADE TO THE BOARD, WE'RE ABLE TO, UH, HAVE THE TOWN FORESTRY OFFICER ASSIST OTHER DEPARTMENTS.

AND I THINK ROUGHLY THE BREAKDOWN IS ABOUT 80% OF HIS TIME IS FOR TREE PERMITS.

MM-HMM .

WHICH IS SOLELY OUT OF THE DEPARTMENT OF CDNC, WILLIAM IS ABLE TO DO, UM, ASSISTANCE FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, THE, UM, OR PRIMARILY I SHOULD SAY DPW AND ENGINEERING.

SO HE IS ABLE TO ASSIST, UM, MAKING ASSESSMENTS, UH, TO ASSIST THOSE DEPARTMENTS IN THEIR VARIOUS, UH, WORK.

DOES HE ASSIST PARKS AT ALL? UM, IF NEEDED? JOE CAN ALWAYS GIVE A CALL, BUT I THINK PRIMARILY IT'S BEEN, UH, DPW, UM, BUT I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

SO THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL.

UH, ONE OTHER THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT A COUPLE, A FEW MONTHS AGO IN THE CONTEXT OF, UH, THE GRANT WORK THAT'S DONE, UH, BY THE TOWN AS A WHOLE, AND THEN ALSO, UH, PARTICULARLY THROUGH THIS DEPARTMENT, WAS, UM, THE IDEA OF A SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR.

AND AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT GRANTS FOR THE TOWN, I REPRESENTED THAT WE'RE SOMEWHAT SUCCESSFUL AND, UH, WE HOPE TO CONTINUE TO BE.

BUT, UM, ONE AREA WHERE I FELT THAT, UM, I DON'T THINK WE'RE AS SUCCESSFUL AS WE COULD BE WAS WITH REGARDS TO THE VARIOUS SUSTAINABILITY ORIENTED, UH, GRANTS THAT ARE OUT THERE.

AND THOSE ARE THINGS LIKE EV CHARGING STATIONS, UM, MUNICIPAL FLEET VEHICLES, UM, AND, UM, JUST GENERALLY IN, IN THAT SUSTAINABILITY SPACE, UH, THERE IS A LOT OF GRANTS OUT THERE THAT UNFORTUNATELY OUR DEPARTMENT DOES NOT HAVE THE TIME.

AND, UM, I

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WOULDN'T WANT TO, UM, PUT OFF OTHER IMPORTANT WORK THAT OUR DEPARTMENT DOES IN LIEU OF THAT, ALTHOUGH THESE ARE IMPORTANT GRANTS.

SO THE SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR I HAVE IN THIS BUDGET, AND THIS IS NEW FOR 2026, IT WOULD BE A PART-TIME POSITION.

AND I REALLY THINK THAT, UH, WITH THE RIGHT PERSON HIRED, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, DO A LOT OF THOSE THINGS, WHICH ACTUALLY WOULDN'T NECESSARILY BENEFIT OUR DEPARTMENT.

IT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BENEFIT THE TOWN AS A WHOLE.

SO, UM, WHETHER IT'S FLEET VEHICLES FOR DPW, UM, EV INFRASTRUCTURE AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, UM, T-D-Y-C-C PARKS AND REC, UM, ADDITIONAL SOLAR RFPS FOR OTHER MUNICIPAL SITES BEYOND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AT TOWN HALL AND ANTHONY VETERANS.

IT'S THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND WHAT SALARY? UH, IT'S RIGHT HERE.

IT'S ALLOCATE ALLOCATION OF $50,000.

AND, UM, THE ONLY OTHER THING I, I WANTED TO MENTION, I THINK I DID MENTION THIS LAST TIME, UH, I DO HAVE ASPIRATION DO HAVE ASPIRATIONS FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO BECOME WHAT'S CALLED, UM, A CLIMATE ENERGY COMMUNITY.

I THINK IT'S CEC THROUGH, UH, THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION.

MM-HMM .

AND THERE'S DIFFERENT CERTIFICATIONS THAT, UH, MUNICIPALITIES CAN GET BASED ON, UM, SUCCESSFUL INITIATIVES THAT THEY'VE DONE.

AND I KNOW THE TOWN HAS ACCRUED A LOT OF POINTS FOR THAT, BUT, UM, THAT PROCESS IS VERY INVOLVED.

THERE NEEDS TO BE FORMED A TASK FORCE, AND THERE NEEDS TO BE HELD MONTHLY MEETINGS.

AND THAT'S ALSO SOMETHING THAT, UM, AT OUR PRESENT STAFF LEVEL, WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPACITY TO DELIVER.

YOU HAVE TO BE OF THE BUDGET.

YOU, YOU HAVE THIS? YEAH, I HAVE IT RIGHT HERE.

YEAH.

OH, I'M SORRY.

THIS IS A DIFFERENT FORMAT.

THIS IS, UH, I SEE WHAT I HAD HANDY.

OKAY.

AND, UM, SO HOPEFULLY THIS IS HELPFUL.

SO JUST TO THE SUPERVISOR'S QUESTION, IT REPRESENTS AN INCREASE OF $11,000, IT'S NOT A NEW CHARGE.

IS THAT CORRECT? OR IS THAT IN ADDITION? IT'S A LITTLE TRICKY.

I WANT TO BE .

LET ME, LET ME EXPLAIN IT LIKE THIS.

THE 39,000 WE TRADITIONALLY HELD FOR PART-TIME POSITION, AND THAT WAS ACTUALLY HELD TRADITIONALLY FOR PART-TIME FORESTRY OFFICER.

WHEN YOU AUTHORIZED THE FULL-TIME FORESTRY OFFICER, WE ACTUALLY HAD NO NEED FOR A PART-TIME LINE.

SO, UM, THERE, WE NOW HAVE THE FULL-TIME FORESTRY OFFICER.

SO THIS 39,000, IF IT WERE HELD IN, YES, IT WOULD BE INCREASED BY 11,000.

BUT I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT THAT IT'S RIGHT.

OTHERWISE IT DOES APPEAR IN YOUR TOTAL, HOWEVER, FOR 2025.

SO YES.

RIGHT.

SO THEN ACTUALLY THAT WAS 39,000 OF UNUSED.

RIGHT.

UM, BUT JUST TO YOUR POINT, UM, I JUST HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THE DIRECTOR OF SU UH, ENVIRONMENT AND SUSTAINABILITY, PETER MCCART AT THE COUNTY, THE COUNTY EXEC OFFICE, UH, TO COME SPEAK TO US ABOUT SOME OF THESE INITIATIVES AND HE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO.

SO WE'LL PUT YOU IN TOUCH AND YOU CAN SET THAT UP.

WONDERFUL.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, UH, GIVING A LITTLE BIT OF ECHO THERE.

ONE OTHER THING THAT I WANT, OKAY, IF THE TOWN OBTAINS THE, UH, BRONZE LEVEL CERTIFICATION THAT ENABLES THE TOWN EXTRA POINTS WHEN IT APPLIES FOR VARIOUS OTHER GRANTS.

SO THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

AND ONE THING I SHOULD NOTE, THE TOWN BECAME PRO HOUSING COMMUNITY CERTIFIED AND ALREADY, UH, A GRANT CAME ACROSS, UH, MY WAY.

AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT ABSOLUTELY I'M GOING TO APPLY FOR ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN.

AND, UM, IT'S ONLY ENABLED BY GETTING THAT CERTIFICATION.

SO I FEEL LIKE THIS BRONZE LEVEL CERTIFICATION WILL ASSIST THE TOWN IN A SIMILAR FASHION.

I HAD TWO OTHER, UH, THOUGHTS.

UM, ONE IS, UM, WE'RE MEETING, I GUESS AT THE END OF THIS WEEK WITH SOMEBODY WHO, UH, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, UH, TRYING TO REVITALIZE EAST TAR DALE AVENUE WITH THE KEY FOODS SUPERMARKET, UM, YOU KNOW, COMING AND THE FARMER'S MARKET.

UM, YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD BENEFIT BY HAVING SORT OF LIKE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF, YOU KNOW, LIKE A, UH, ACTIVITIES COORDINATOR, YOU KNOW, DOING WHAT SORT OF WHAT DOS FERRY HAS DONE WITH, UH, THE DOS FERRY, FESTA HASTINGS HAS, UH, MONTHLY, UH, STREET FAIRS.

AND I THOUGHT THAT, UM, IF WE COULD PUT SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET, UH, FOR AS AN ACTIVITIES, YOU KNOW, PERSON WILL HELP US, UM, REVITALIZE EAST DALE AVENUE AND CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM.

SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE A PART-TIME, UH, POSITION.

AND I THOUGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE COULD DO IS WE COULD TEST IT OUT WITH ONE OR TWO, UH, PROGRAMS, SEE IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL.

IF IT'S SUCCESSFUL, THEN WE COULD EXPAND.

IF IT'S NOT SUCCESSFUL, THEN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE ONLY TRIED IT ONCE A OR TWICE DURING, UH, 2025.

JUST THE FOCUS IS ONLY GOING TO BE ON EAST HARSDALE AVENUE.

WELL, YOU KNOW, UM, IT COULD, WE COULD DO IT

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THROUGHOUT THE, THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.

YOU KNOW, EAST HARSDALE AVENUE IS THE EASIEST BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE EASY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA CLOSE CENTRAL AVENUE TO, UH, UH, TO TRAFFIC FOR A STREET FAIR.

YOU'RE NOT GONNA CLOSE ONE 19.

UH, YOU'RE NOT, BUT YOU, MAYBE IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE SUCH MAJOR ROADS EITHER.

UM, BUT THE BUSINESS, WELL, THE BUSINESS DIS DISTRICTS WITH EXCEPTION OF EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE ARE ON MAJOR ROADS.

WELL, IN MY EXPERIENCE IN STREET FAIRS, THAT THE FOCUS IS ON THE BOOTHS AND THE STREET ACTIVITIES.

AND ACTUALLY, UM, THE CHAMBER, THE MEMBERS OF THE CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE, UM, IN HASTINGS FOR FOR INSTANCE, COMPLAINED BITTERLY BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T GETTING THE, THE TRAFFIC.

'CAUSE IT WAS ALL OUTDOORS.

AND SO I THINK THAT REALLY BROADENS THE, THE IDEA OF WHERE YOU COULD HOLD IT.

AND MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A FUNCTION OF THE CHAMBER.

ALSO, THEY DON'T HAVE THEM AS OFTEN AS THEY USED TO IN HASTINGS BECAUSE OF THAT, THAT REASON, I MEAN, IT'S SOMETHING COULD HAVE AN OCCASIONAL THING, BUT WE ALSO CAN'T CLOSE EAST DALE AVENUE ANYWAY.

RIGHT.

BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, WE COULD BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE PIPELINE ROAD, YOU HAVE, UH, THE AREA WHERE THE FARMER'S MARKET IS.

UH, YOU HAVE THE, THERE WAS LIKE A LITTLE AREA NEAR THE IRISH BANK.

SO I'M SAYING THAT IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE, UM, TO TEST OUT, THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, MAYBE WE SHOULD LET GARRICK CONTINUE WITH HIS BUDGET.

WELL, THIS IS, THIS WOULD BE A BUDGET.

YOUR IDEA WOULD BE THROUGH, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF CD AND C YEAH.

PART-TIME, INCLUDING, UM, A DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT PERSON.

IT'S NOT AN ADVANCED PERSON JOB.

IT'S, YEAH.

WELL, THAT'S, IT WOULDN'T BE THAT.

IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE A LOT.

IT COULD BE, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU COULD COME UP WITH A DOLLAR AMOUNT.

WE'RE GONNA BE MEETING WITH SOMEBODY WHO, WHO DID THIS FOR THE END FERRY SUCCESSFULLY.

THE, UH, AND YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A DOWNTOWN ADVOCATE IN DOPPS FERRY, FOR EXAMPLE.

THAT'S THE POSITION THAT'S BEEN, AND ONE IN HASTINGS, WHICH IS SEPARATE FROM THE CHAMBER, BUT THE CHAMBER ALSO HAS BEEN DOING A LOT, AND WE DON'T HAVE TO SPEND MONEY ON THAT.

RIGHT, RIGHT.

BUT OKAY.

I KNOW THIS'S NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU MENTIONED IT, SO, SO I'M NOT, I'M SORRY.

I'M NOT PREPARED TO, YOU KNOW, WE COULD MEET AND WE MORE THOUGHTS ON IT.

I GUESS I HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IT MORE TO SEE.

OKAY.

BUT LET'S TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.

AND I CAN CERTAINLY CHECK BACK WITH THE BOARD.

THE ONLY OTHER UPDATES, UH, I'M SEEKING TO DOUBLE THE BUDGET FOR CONFERENCES IN SEMINARS.

AND THAT'S MAINLY IN LIGHT OF THE FACT THAT, UM, THERE'S, UH, SEVERAL, UH, NEW ZONING BOARD AND PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS.

SO I, I FEEL THAT THERE ARE CERTAIN SEMINARS THAT WOULD BE OF GREAT BENEFIT TO THEM.

MM-HMM .

UM, AND THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION, TRAINING IS VERY IMPORTANT.

YES.

YEAH.

OTHERWISE, EVERYTHING ELSE HELD STATIC OTHER THAN THE, UM, SALARIES, WHICH ARE, IT'S JUST A FORMULA FOR THOSE TO GO UP.

UH, AND THERE'S A, YOU HAVE AN LINE EXPENSE EXTRA TWO $50 FOR THE PHONE, THE PHONE LINE EXPENSE FOR, THAT'S THE FORESTRY OFFICER.

UM, YOU'RE STARTING HIM OFF WITH THE FLIP PHONE.

NO, I'M JUST KIDDING.

, WHERE WOULD THIS PERSON, WHERE WOULD THIS PERSON SIT? , THE SUSTAINABILITY COORDINATOR? UM, THE TBD LOCATION.

.

ALTHOUGH IF IT'S, WE'LL HAVE TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

UM, IF THAT PERSON IS A CONSULTANT, THEN MAYBE THEY JUST, THEY WORK FROM HOME AND COME IN FOR, I DON'T KNOW.

IS IT SOMEONE THAT YOU WERE THINKING OF PLACING IN THE, THE, THE, IT WOULD BE A TOWN EMPLOYEE OR PART-TIME? THAT'S TRUE.

IT'S A, IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

I, AND ALSO THAT IS A CONSIDERATION.

SO IF IT WAS MORE, UM, LET'S SAY SPORADIC, BUT NOT AS, NOT IN THE BUILDING AT ALL TIMES, PERHAPS THE CONFERENCE ROOM WOULD SUFFICE FOR A COUPLE DAYS A WEEK.

MM-HMM .

UM, BUT ALSO I SEE, YOU KNOW, THE GREAT WORK THAT THE, THE DPW STAFF DO WITH LIKE KIND OF REORGANIZING SPACES AND WE'RE DIGITIZING MORE AND MORE.

AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE'S MAYBE A BETTER ALLOCATION OF SPACE IN OUR DEPARTMENT, UM, FINITE AMOUNT OF SPACE.

AND THERE'S LONG AS HOW MUCH YOU CAN SQUEEZE.

YEAH.

UH, BUT I'LL HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT.

ANY DOCUMENT THAT YOU GIVE US DURING PUBLIC DISCUSSION AT A PUBLIC MEETING BECOMES A PUBLIC DOCUMENT.

YOU HAVE A NAME OF AN INDIVIDUAL EMPLOYEE ON HERE.

UH, YOU NEED TO TAKE THAT OFF.

OKAY.

BEFORE THIS ACTUALLY IS RELEASED.

GOT IT.

UH, WHAT GOES INTO THE ACCRUED TIME TOTAL OF $11,907.

THE ACCRUED TIME.

DO WE OWE MONEY? I'M SORRY, I'M GONNA HAVE TO CHECK WITH COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE ON THAT.

UM, I'M ACTUALLY, IS SHE ON? SHE'S ON, SHE'S ON BACK TO ZOOM HERE.

THE ACCRUED TIME? YES.

YES.

WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ADDS UP TO $11,907 WITHOUT MENTIONING ANYBODY'S NAMES.

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UM, LET ME LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL.

WHY GOES, I HAD IT OPENING.

I, I HEAR A PARROT COME, COME ON UP, JOE.

AREN'T YOU NEXT, JOE? BESIDES IT'S A TEAM.

IT'S A TEAM EFFORT.

SO JOE, WHAT GOES INTO THE AC CREW? COME ON, JOE.

COME ON UP, COMMISSIONER.

ISN'T THAT WHEN WE PAY OUT, COMMISSIONER PEOPLE RETIRE OR WHEN? RIGHT.

BUT DO WE KNOW SOMEBODY'S GONNA RETIRE THAT'S NOT USED? UNUSED PERSONAL TIME, UM, AMONG OTHER PEOPLE.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT DO WE KNOW WHO'S GONNA RETIRE IN 2026? SO THEREFORE THERE'S A LION OF $11,000.

USUALLY WE DON'T PUT THE ACCRUED TIME IN OURSELVES.

THE COMP VILLAGE DEPARTMENT ASSISTANCE.

IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED, GARRETT HERE? IS THAT WHAT HAPPENED HERE? AND IT'S A SET ASIDE THAT WAS IN THE 25 BUDGET.

I HAVE TO FOLLOW IT SO SPECIFIC.

IT'S 11,907 .

YEAH.

THERE'S NO SCHEDULE RETIREMENTS IN OUR DEPARTMENT.

KIMBERLY, CAN YOU GIVE SOME INSIGHT TODAY? YOU HOPE WELL, I'M, I'M LOOKING FOR THE FINANCIAL STATEMENT.

I HAD IT OPEN AND IT CLOSED OUT, SO I CAN SEE THE EXACT LINE UNUSED.

IF YOU WANNA MOVE ON, I'LL, I'M GONNA LOOK AT THIS THEN I CAN GET BACK TO THAT.

IF YOU DON'T USE YOUR PERSONAL TIME, YOU GET PAID FOR THE THREE DAYS.

YEAH, BUT IT WAS A SMALL, SMALL DEPARTMENT.

THAT'S LOT OF PERSONAL TIME.

THAT'S TRUE.

WHY DON'T YOU GET BACK TO ME? ITS OKAY.

SO WE'LL, SO WE'LL GET BACK, GET BACK TO WAL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU, GARY.

BUT DO TAKE THAT NAME OFF OF IT.

ABSOLUTELY.

ANYTHING ELSE WE, OH, I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, UM, YOU KNOW, I SPOKE TO SUSAN SEALE, UH, YOU KNOW, TODAY BECAUSE THEY HAD THIS IS WOULD BE A CAPITAL BUDGET, YOU KNOW, ITEM BECAUSE, UM, THEY HAVE THEIR BIDS FOR THE MUSEUM CAME IN, UH, MUCH HIGHER THAN THEY THOUGHT.

THEY'RE GONNA START.

THEY'RE GONNA TRY, UM, UH, GETTING SOME REDUCTIONS IN THE GARRETT AND, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, THE ODELL MUSEUM PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE MEETING WITH, UM, ELLEN WITH, UH, WITH, UM, THE, THE ARCHITECT.

UM, BUT WE MAY HAVE TO, WE MAY WANT TO, UM, ASK, UM, THE TOWN BOARD TO APPROPRIATE FUNDS IN THE 2026 CAPITAL BUDGET, UH, FOR THE ODELL HOUSE.

UM, IN A MUSEUM, THERE'S GONNA BE ADDITIONAL COSTS THAT ARE PROBABLY GONNA BE REQUIRED, OTHERWISE THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO OPEN UP THE MUSEUM BY, UH, NEXT YEAR, WHICH IS AN IMPORTANT HISTORIC YEAR.

JUST FOR A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION, UM, JOINTLY WE'VE IDENTIFIED AREAS WHERE WE COULD RE WE FEEL WE COULD REDUCE COSTS ONCE WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAIN HOOPS THAT WE HAVE TO JUMP THROUGH VIS-A-VIS SHIPPO AND SO FORTH.

SO WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT'S FEASIBLE AND THEN HOW, HOW IF, HOW MUCH IF, AND HOW MUCH WE CAN REDUCE THE COST OF THE JOB OR GET GRANTS.

SPREAD IT OUT PERHAPS OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS.

SO WE'LL CHECK BACK WITH THE BOARD.

APPRECIATE THAT.

AND, UH, TO GET OUR BUDGET AS TIGHT AS POSSIBLE.

I DO WANNA MAKE ONE ANNOUNCEMENT.

UH, WE DID WORK HARD WITH, UH, WESTCHESTER COUNTY THROUGH THE, WHAT THEY CALL THE STORMWATER ADVISORY BOARD.

AND I JUST SAW A CONTRACT COME THROUGH FOR $400,000.

AND THAT'S ADDITIONAL, UH, DESIGN FUNDING FOR THE HARTSDALE BROOK AND THE FLOOD MITIGATION PRO PROJECT THERE.

THAT'S ONGOING.

ARCADE IS PRESENTLY WORKING ON THAT THROUGH, UH, SORRY, HOLD ON.

SORRY.

WE'RE JUST HAVING AN ISSUE.

TERRANCE, I WE JUST

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WANNA MAKE PAUSE FOR TWO MINUTES DUE TO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.

RECESS.

WHILE THIS IS WORKED OUT, PAUL, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECESS WHILE THIS TECHNICAL PROBLEM IS RESOLVED.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

WE'LL BE BACK.

WHAT MUST BE GOOD ADVERTISING.

SO WE'RE BACK ON.

SO, OKAY.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE BACK LIVE.

OKAY.

WE READY? YEAH.

SO, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE RESUMING THE MEETING.

WE HAD, UH, TECHNICAL, UH, D DIFFICULTIES ON MAKING A MOTION TO, UH, RESUME OUR, UH, WORK SESSION.

SECOND.

ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.

AYE.

JUST TO WRAP UP, I HAD DIVERGED WITH SOME NON-BUDGET DEPARTMENT STUFF WITH AN ANNOUNCEMENT.

UH, THE AUDIO SYSTEM DIDN'T LIKE MY ANNOUNCEMENT.

$400,000 OF FUNDING FROM THE COUNTY FOR HARTSDALE BROOK THAT WILL BE USED, UM, TO, UH, SUPPLEMENT THE STUDIES THAT ARE ONGOING FOR HARTSDALE BROOK.

AND WE WILL MATCH THE FEMA GRANT THAT'S IN HAND.

SO REALLY, YOU'RE TALKING CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS OF INVESTMENT FOR FLOOD MITIGATION DESIGN, UH, WITH NO TAXPAYER UH, DOLLARS.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO, NO, WAIT, NO.

BEFORE YOU GO, ONE MORE THING.

SO ONE THING THAT DID COME UP IN OUR CONVERSATION A NUMBER OF MONTHS AGO WAS GRANT WRITING, GRANT OUTREACH.

AND I KNOW THAT YOU DO SO MUCH, BUT WE DID TALK ABOUT THE IDEA OF YOUR, THINKING ABOUT YOU AND WINSOME MAYBE TALKING ABOUT IT TOGETHER.

IF YOU WANTED SOME ADDITIONAL HELP IN THAT AREA.

SUSTAIN, I THINK IT CAN BE DONE ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

OKAY.

BETWEEN WINSOME, MYSELF MM-HMM .

AND NOW, UH, DEPUTY, UM, TOWN ENGINEER GELLAR IS REALLY STEPPING UP.

OKAY.

AND, UM, DOING A LOT OF GRANT IMPLEMENTATION AS WELL AS APPLYING FOR GRANTS.

MM-HMM .

I THINK WE'RE OKAY.

OKAY.

GOOD.

OKAY.

GOOD.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU COMMISSIONER.

GOOD.

OKAY.

NEXT ON OUR LIST.

UM, EXCUSE ME, I DON'T KNOW, DID YOU SEE MY RESPONSE IN THE CHAT? 'CAUSE I WASN'T ABLE TO SPEAK OR HEAR ANYTHING.

YEAH.

KIMBERLY, CAN YOU CAN, CAN YOU, CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WATCHING? WE WENT OFFLINE FOR A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE OF TECHNICAL DIFFICUL.

YES.

SO WE HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH PTO, YOU KNOW, WITH PEOPLE ACCUMULATE SICK TIME OR VACATION TIME OR, UM, YOU KNOW, OTHER, SOMETIMES WITH THE TEAMSTERS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, UH, PAID TIME OFF FOR COMP TIME.

SO IF SOMEBODY WERE TO LEAVE, WE WOULD PAY THEM OUT OF THAT LINE.

RIGHT.

BUT IT'S THE SAME NUMBER AS LAST YEAR.

AND HE HAS A FAIRLY YOUNG DEPARTMENT AND NO ONE'S RETIRING.

BUT WE STILL DO THAT.

NO, THAT HAS TO, THAT HAS TO COME OUT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU MUCH.

BUT SO WHEN YOU SAID IT'S COMING OUT, IT'S COMING OUT OF THE, THAT LINE.

RIGHT.

AND WE'RE GONNA YES.

I HAVEN'T REVIEWED THE BUDGETS YET.

IT HAS TO COME OUT.

OKAY.

THAT'S GOOD.

YEAH, I AGREE.

OKAY.

NEXT, UH, WE HAVE, UH, THE, UM, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.

HI.

HOW'S EVERYONE TODAY? GOOD.

SO WE HAVE, DO YOU HAVE COPIES OF OURS? WHICH, OR CAN I GIVE YOU OURS? IF YOU HAVE THEM, I FEEL FREE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO GOT SEVEN HERE.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, OH MY GOODNESS.

YOU KNOW, I, I ACTUALLY YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE ORIGINAL.

UM, SO FIRST OFF, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE TOWN BOARD FIVE, THE ONIONS.

OKAY.

NO WORRY.

I'D LIKE TO THANK THE BOARD.

THEY'VE BEEN VERY SUPPORTIVE OF OUR DEPARTMENT.

UH, MY NAME IS JOE LUCA.

I'M THE PARKS AND REC COMMISSIONER.

UM, SO NOEL BROCCOLI, THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER.

UM, WE RUN A DEPARTMENT THAT, UH, HAS 27 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, WAY OVER 300 EMPLOYEES PART-TIME.

I THINK, WELL WAIT A MINUTE, WE HAVE 27 EMPLOYEES, BUT ONE OF OUR EMPLOYEES GAVE BIRTH TODAY, SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COUNTS.

SO IT'S 28.

CONGRATULATIONS.

.

SO .

SURE.

YEAH.

SO, UH, WE DO HAVE AN EXTRA PERSON ON THE STAFF NOW, I GUESS.

UM, BUT ANYWAY, I WANTED TO GO THROUGH OUR BUDGETS.

WE HAVE SEVERAL BUDGETS THAT WE WANT TO COVER AND, UH, I KNOW THERE'S LIMITED TIME, SO I PUT 'EM IN ORDER.

UM, THE VERY FIRST BUDGET IS OUR SPECIAL RECREATION BUDGET.

WE, UM, HAVE 27 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES, BUT WE'RE DOWN ONE EMPLOYEE RIGHT NOW.

WE'RE STILL WAITING FOR TEST RESULTS FROM THE COUNTY TO COME BACK.

IS THAT IT? IT DOESN'T,

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A SEVEN A 70 20 WOULD BE THE, THE FIRST, UH, NUMBERS ON THE PAGE.

UM, WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR A, UH, A LIST TO COME BACK FROM THE COUNTY SO THAT WE CAN HIRE OFF OF THAT LIST TO REPLACE THAT PERSON.

THAT PERSON WAS PARTLY NOEL'S OLD POSITION AS SPECIAL RECREATION DIRECTOR.

BUT WE ALSO ARE MORPHING THAT INTO A RECREATION SUPERVISOR.

WE GOT PERMISSION FROM THE COUNTY TO DO THAT, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY GONNA RUN OUR SPECIAL RECREATION AND OUR TENNIS PROGRAMS AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, SO THAT POSITION IS VACANT RIGHT NOW.

UM, AND WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR THE TEST RESULTS TO COME BACK, UM, IN THE A 20, UH, 70 20 BUDGET.

THE MAIN THING I WANTED TO POINT OUT WAS THAT WE, UH, PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO INCREASE OUR TRANSPORTATION BUDGET BY UP TO FIVE.

WE PUT IN A 5% INCREASE ON THAT ONE BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO OUT TO BID AGAIN.

AND OUR, UM, EXPERIENCE WITH THE BUS SERVICE HAS BEEN THAT IT'S BEEN INCREASING FAIRLY STEEP LATELY.

SO WE PUT IN FIVE, WE HOPE IT'D BE LESS, BUT WE WON'T KNOW THAT UNTIL AFTER THE BIDS COME BACK.

THAT WON'T BE TOWARD THE END OF, UNTIL THE END OF THIS YEAR.

THE BEGINNING OF NEXT YEAR.

IS THAT THE, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUSES FOR THE SENIOR CITIZENS, THE RENTALS? NO, THIS IS MOSTLY FOR DAY CAMPS.

OKAY.

IN PARTICULAR, UM, THIS IS, UH, CAMP VICTORY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THIS PARTICULAR, THIS IS ALL, UH, THE A BUDGET.

THIS, THIS, THIS, THIS ONE THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS JUST THE A BUDGET.

YES.

RIGHT.

UM, ANYTHING THAT STARTS WITHIN A IS THE A BUDGET.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

MAKES SENSE.

NEXT, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'LL JUST MOVE ON.

THE NEXT BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE ON THE LIST IS, UH, B 70 20.

THAT'S OUR GENERAL RECREATION BUDGET.

UM, I'M GONNA GO THROUGH THE HIGH POINTS OF ANYTHING THAT I THINK IS INCREASING THAT WOULD BE NOTABLE.

UM, MINIMUM WAGE IS GOING UP 50 CENTS AGAIN THIS YEAR.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS THAT, THAT THAT IMPACTS OUR BUDGET DIRECTLY.

UM, WITH, UH, LIKE I SAID, OVER 300 EMPLOYEES, UH, WE'RE ALWAYS GONNA FEEL THAT WHEN IT HAPPENS.

IN PARTICULAR, YOU'LL SEE, UM, A LINE CALLED PART-TIME SEASONAL.

THAT'S THE LINE THAT WE USE TO RUN OUR DAY CAMPS.

BUT SO WHEN YOU, THE, THE BUDGET OVER HERE MM-HMM .

IT WENT, UH, THE SALARIES WENT FROM, UH, 9 51 TO 9 88.

THOSE ARE OKAY.

SALARIES ARE, UH, THE LINE IN SALARIES IS ACTUALLY THE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

AND THAT'S A CONTRACTUAL INCREASE OF, UH, 2.95%.

OKAY.

THAT WAS PART OF THE CSEA INCREASE.

SO THAT'S, UM, NOT REALLY IN MY CONTROL.

OKAY.

THE PART-TIME LINE THOUGH IS PART-TIME SEASONAL LINE IS THE DAY CAMP LINE.

UM, THE PART-TIME SEASONAL LINE, UH, WE RAN WITH 509,000, UH, 945 THIS YEAR.

I THINK I WAS OFF BY $3,000.

I CONSIDER THAT A, UH, YOU KNOW, BULLSEYE AS FAR AS DOING IT.

BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO INCREASE IT THIS YEAR FOR, UM, THERE'S GONNA BE SOME HEALTH, UH, DEPARTMENT INCREASES AND ALSO THE MINIMUM WAGE.

SO WE'RE GOING TO 5 49.

WE THOUGHT THAT WAS TOO STEEP OF AN INCREASE.

SO WE'RE GONNA INCREASE THE COST PER CHILD OF $50 PER CHILD, WHICH WILL BRING IN $20,000 EXTRA.

SO IT'S NOT A $40,000 INCREASE.

IT'S A $20,000 INCREASE.

CAN I JUST ASK YOU A QUESTION? YES.

IN TERMS OF SALARIES, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET, ONE FROM 9 51 TO 9 88, BUT THE ACTUALS IN 2025 WAS SIX 80.

682,716.

SO IF YOU, IF THE ACTUALS, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

THAT'S, THAT'S TO DATE NOW.

WE HAVEN'T PAID EVERYBODY OUT TO THE END OF THE YEAR.

OKAY.

AND THEN THEY SAID 2024 WAS 8 7 9 7 18.

RIGHT.

IS THAT, SO ARE THE SALARIES BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, IS THERE A WAY YOU COULD DO WITH LESS, UH, RATHER THAN THE NINE, THOSE ARE FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OKAY.

SO THESE ARE ALL, THOSE ARE ALL FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES.

OKAY.

SO WE EITHER HAVE, SO IF THERE WAS A, IF THERE WAS A LOWER, UM, AMOUNT IN 2 24, IT MIGHT'VE BEEN BECAUSE WE DIDN'T FILL A FULL-TIME POSITION FOR A WHILE.

UM, THAT WOULD BE MY GUESS.

I'M GOING BACK IN MY HEAD AND THINKING THAT 2004, 2024.

YEAH.

2004.

WOW.

I THINK THAT'S WHEN MY KIDS WERE BORN.

RIGHT.

UM, SO, UM, IF IT WAS LESS, IF IT, IF IT LOOKS LIKE IT ROSE A LOT BETWEEN 2 24 AND 2 25, WE MAY HAVE ACTUALLY FILLED AN EMPTY POSITION AT THAT TIME.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO ANYWAY, BACK TO THE, UH, PART-TIME SALARY.

THE OTHER PART-TIME LINE IS, UH, THE GENERAL LINE THAT WE USE FOR, UM, UM, MULTIPLE PROGRAMMING.

UM, AND THAT HAS TO SHOW AN INCREASE ALSO BECAUSE OF THE INCREASE IN MINIMUM WAGE.

UM, AS I MOVE DOWN, I HAVE A NOTE ON THE SIDE THAT SAYS TRANSPORTATION AGAIN, THAT'S THE TRANSPORTATION THAT'S USED FOR DAY CAMPS.

AND THAT'LL BE, UH, SOMETHING WE'LL BE GOING OUT TO BID FOR.

SO I INCREASED IT BY 5%.

UM, THE LAST TIME WE WENT OUT TO BID WAS THREE YEARS AGO.

UH, WE HAD ONE BIDDER COME BACK.

THE BOARD ASKED ME TO GO OUT AND REBID, I REBID.

AND ONE BIDDER CAME BACK THE SAME BIDDER HIGHER.

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SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING FOR BUS SERVICE IN, IN THE AREA.

UM, SO JUST WANTED TO NOTE THAT.

SO THAT'S WHY I PUT IN A 5%.

DOES A TRANSPORTATION LINE INCLUDE FUEL OR POWER? NO, IN THIS PARTICULAR TRANSPORTATION LINE JUST IS WHAT WE PAY.

UH, WELL, IN THIS CASE, IT'S A COMPANY NAMED ROYAL COACH.

ROYAL COACH IS WHO WE, UM, CONTRACT WITH THEM AND THEN THEY SUPPLY EVERYTHING.

THEY SUPPLY 10 BUSES TO US, ONE BUS FOR SPECIAL RECREATION, AND SEVEN BUSES GO TO, UM, T-D-Y-C-C AND THAT THEY PAY FOR THE FUEL.

THAT'S ALL PART OF THEIR, THAT'S ALL PART OF IT.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING DRIVERS.

THAT IS ACTUALLY ALL PART OF IT.

YES, ABSOLUTELY.

UM, SORRY, BEFORE YOU GO.

YEAH, SURE.

DID I MISS SOMETHING HERE? SURE.

THAT UNDER THE, UH, 2025 REVISED BUDGET SALARY LINE? YES.

9 5 1 AS OPPOSED TO 2025.

ACTUAL 6 8 2.

THAT'S BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT I JUST SAID.

NO, NO, 6 8 2 IS WHAT'S BEEN PAID OUT SO FAR THIS YEAR.

OH, SORRY.

OKAY.

YEAH, SHE DID SAY THAT'S THE ACTUAL GOT IT.

MM-HMM .

MM-HMM .

I HAVE TO, I I REALLY, I, I HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS EVERY YEAR AND GO, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AGAIN, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I, I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE GONNA ASK THOSE QUESTIONS.

I MIGHT PUT AN ASTERISK AFTER ACCRUALS AND THEN AT THE BOTTOM, YEAR TO DATE, YEAR TO DATE, RIGHT? MM-HMM .

UM, SECOND PAGE ON THIS ONE, I WANT TO POINT OUT THAT WE HAVE, UH, OUR RECREATION FEES, WHICH IS DOWN TOWARD THE BOTTOM.

YOU'LL SEE SOME PARENTHESES AROUND REVENUES DOWN THERE.

UM, I MADE A $20,000 MISTAKE.

YEAH.

NO, THE NEXT PAGE.

WHICH SECOND PAGE? UNDER GENERAL.

THANK YOU.

UM, SO I ANTICIPATED THAT WE WOULD END UP WITH, UH, 600 AND WE, WE, UH, ESTIMATED 6 35 THIS YEAR.

UM, I THINK WE'RE GONNA GET IN 6 55 THIS YEAR.

SO THE NUMBER THAT I PUT IN WAS 6 35.

THAT SHOULD BE 6 55.

SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAKE THAT CORRECTION.

IT ADDS ANOTHER $20,000 OF REVENUE AND MM-HMM .

OKAY.

AND YOU HAVE TO CHECK TO SEE IF THAT CARRIES IN.

THE TOTAL IS THAT BASICALLY IT WILL GO TO HER TOTAL USING THE POOL LIKE THAT.

I'M SORRY, WHAT WAS THAT? SO THAT'S USING LIKE THE POOL AND POOL CAMPS? UH, NO, THIS ONE IS ACTUALLY, THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET IS NOT THE POOLS.

THIS IS THE CAMPS.

MOST OF THE REVENUE THAT COMES IN FROM HERE IS FROM DAY CAMPS.

OKAY.

THE NEXT BUDGET IS PARKS DEPARTMENT B 70 50.

THIS ONE HAS NO REVENUE.

THIS IS THE, UH, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT WE PAID TO ACTUALLY TAKE CARE OF THE PARKS.

OKAY.

SO THERE'S NO REVENUE LINE ON THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET.

IT'S MOSTLY MANPOWER AND EQUIPMENT MAINTEN THAT WE PUT MAINTENANCE PUT IN HERE.

MAINTENANCE.

MAINTENANCE, EXACTLY.

UH, THIS WOULD BE OUR GENERAL FOREMAN, OUR PART SUPERINTENDENT.

UM, AND THAT WE DO HAVE PART-TIME LINE IN THERE DURING THE SUMMERTIME, AND WE HAD TO INCREASE THAT DUE TO THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE.

UM, AND THEN THE NEXT LINE DOWN IS OTHER EQUIPMENT.

UM, I PUT IN THERE TWO WALK BEHIND 48 INCH MOWERS.

THIS IS PART OF OUR REPLACEMENT.

UM, THAT'S LESS THAN CAPITAL, BUT IT'S STUFF THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET EVERYTHING DONE.

AND YOU WENT DOWN SLIGHTLY.

UH, WE WENT DOWN SLIGHTLY, BUT I MEAN, IT WAS JUST, I WENT, I SAID, WHAT DO WE NEED? LET'S PUT IT IN.

LET'S SEE WHAT THE ACTUAL COSTS ARE GONNA BE OR WHAT OUR ESTIMATED COSTS ARE GONNA BE.

WE SAID $8,500.

MM-HMM .

THAT AGE.

UM, MOST OF THE REST OF THIS LINE, IT'S GONNA REMAIN THE SAME.

IT'S NOT GONNA RAISE, IT RAISES, IT'S VERY MINOR.

UM, I DUNNO IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, BUT WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK.

B 71 80 IS, UH, THAT'S REFERRED TO AS VETERAN PARK LINE.

VETERAN PARK LINE IS BASICALLY THE POOL, THE TENNIS, UM, AND THE, UH, REGISTRATION OFFICE.

UH, THOSE ARE THE MAIN DRIVERS OF THAT LINE AS FAR AS EXPENDITURES GO.

AND ALSO THE REVENUE LINE THAT COMES IN IS FROM THE POOL.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE TWO MAIN REVENUE LINES.

ONE IS OUR GENERAL LINE THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER, WHICH IS $655,000.

AND THE REVENUE LINE THAT COMES IN HERE, WHICH IS 500 AND, UH, $40,000, IT'S COMING IN A LITTLE LOW THIS YEAR, BUT THIS ONE IS, UM, UH, DRIVEN BY WEATHER.

OKAY.

AND WE HAD A RAINY YEAR AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR.

AND SO ON THE WEEKENDS WHEN IT RAINS, WE DON'T GET AS MANY PEOPLE AT THE POOL.

BUT WE SHOOT FOR, I, I THINK NEXT YEAR, 540 IS STILL A, A REASONABLE, UM, GUEST.

WE DO THE BEST WE CAN, BUT WE CAN'T CONTROL THE WEATHER.

SO THAT, JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT.

AND THEN THERE ARE NO FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES IN THIS LINE.

THERE ARE ONLY PART-TIME EMPLOYEES.

LIFEGUARDS, UM, TENNIS INSTRUCTORS,

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UH, PEOPLE THAT TAKE CARE OF THE POOL.

UM, WE CALL 'EM THE BLUE SHIRTS AND THE PEOPLE THAT RUN THE FRONT GATE.

SO THIS ONE IS DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE MINIMUM WAGE INCREASE AND ALSO BY THE NEEDS OF THE, HOW MANY PEOPLE WE NEED.

THERE DID INCREASING THE SALARY OF THE LIFEGUARDS HELP IN GETTING LIFEGUARDS THIS YEAR.

WE ACTUALLY HAD 110 LIFEGUARDS THIS YEAR.

WE HAD MORE LIFEGUARDS PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, THAN WE'VE EVER HAD FOR A LONG TIME.

WE, WE DIDN'T LOSE ANYBODY.

WE DIDN'T NO, WE DIDN'T LOSE ANYBODY.

AND WE FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THE FACT THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ABLE TO, UM, STAFF THE POOL SAFELY.

IT'S BETTER NOW THAN IT WAS IN TERMS OF GETTING LIFEGUARDS, UM, PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER FOR, FOR US.

YEAH.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

I THOUGHT, OKAY.

.

BENCHINGS.

SO, UH, YES.

FOR US PARTICULARLY, AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S HOPE THAT'S BECAUSE WE RUN A POOL THAT PEOPLE WANNA WORK FOR.

OKAY.

BUT PART OF IT HAS GOT TO DO WITH EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A COMPETITIVE SALARY.

ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT KEEPS COMING UP EVERY YEAR IS, UM, IN SEPTEMBER NOW WITH GLOBAL WARMING, IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT, IT, IT'S WARMER AND I THINK THE COUNTY EXTENDED THE POOL OF TWO WEEKS, TWO WEEKENDS, TWO WEEKS.

AND I'M WONDERING IF, UH, TWO WEEKS, TWO, HOW MUCH, RIGHT.

IF WE COULD BASICALLY, UM, EXPLORE, UM, YOU KNOW, DOING SOMETHING ELSE IF THE TEMP, YOU KNOW, IF THE WEATHER IS, UH, IS WARM.

INTERESTING.

YOU SHOULD SAY THAT.

WE MET WITH THE COUNTY TODAY, AND I MET WITH SOMEBODY THAT RAN ONE OF THE AQUATICS FACILITIES AT THE COUNTY, AND THEY SAID VERY FEW PEOPLE ATTENDED.

OKAY.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS THAT WHEN WE GET TO SEPTEMBER, YOU MAY WALK OUT AND IT MIGHT BE 80 DEGREES DURING THE DAYTIME, IT GETS DOWN TO THE UPPER FORTIES.

A LOT OF TIMES WE DO NOT HEAT OUR POOLS.

HAS ANYBODY EVER GOTTEN INTO ONE OF OUR POOLS LATE IN EPT IN SEPTEMBER? I WILL CHALLENGE YOU THAT THERE ARE THOSE HARDY SOULS THAT DO LIKE IT, BUT THEY ARE VOCAL.

AND WE WOULD BE, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE, THE CAMPUS THAT WE HAVE AT VETERAN PARK IS SO SPREAD OUT THAT YOU CAN'T JUST HAVE THREE LIFEGUARDS THERE BECAUSE WE HAVE WATER IN ALL THE POOLS.

YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY IN ALL THE OTHER POOLS.

AND IT ALSO MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT IF I SAY WE'RE ONLY GONNA KEEP THE LAP POOL OPEN WHEN SOME PRESCHOOL MOM WANTS TO COME IN.

AND I DON'T, I CAN'T, WELL, I CAN'T REALLY DO THAT.

MM-HMM .

SO WHAT WE, WE HAVE TO DO IS WE HAVE TO HAVE LIKE 20 LIFEGUARDS EVERY TIME WE UNLOCK THE DOOR.

RIGHT.

AS OPPOSED TO, UH, SOME OTHER FACILITIES, LIKE I WOULD SAY DOBBS FERRY, I CAN SEE ACROSS THE POOL THERE.

YEAH.

THEY CAN OPEN WITH FIVE MM-HMM .

YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T DO THAT.

AND IT REALLY BECOMES, LIKE, I ALWAYS TALK ABOUT VETERAN PARK, LIKE IT'S A, UH, IT'S NOT A SPEED BOAT.

IT'S A CRUISE SHIP.

IT DOESN'T START FAST.

IT DOESN'T STOP FAST.

AND SO I ALWAYS SAY THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO ACTUALLY DO WHAT YOU ASK TO DO.

ALSO, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO KEEP WHAT WE HAVE AT THE FIRST OR THE SECOND WEEK OF AUGUST.

ALL THE COLLEGE KIDS GO, RIGHT? YEAH.

SO WE'RE MANNING THE POOL WITH HIGH SCHOOL KIDS.

AS SOON AS HIGH SCHOOL OPENS UP, WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE BECAUSE YEAH.

WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE BECAUSE ALL THOSE KIDS THAT WORK FOR US, THEY'RE EITHER ON THE CHESS TEAM OR THE FOOTBALL TEAM, OR, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, WE'RE IN THE REAR VIEW MIRROR AT THAT POINT.

YEP.

AND SO IT, IT IS VERY DIFFICULT TO ACTUALLY, TO PULL THAT OFF.

AND I DON'T THINK IT'S COST EFFECTIVE.

RIGHT.

ON THE OTHER HAND, IF WE BASICALLY, UM, SAY DID A TEST FOR LIKE ONE SEASON AND SAID, MAYBE WE WILL KEEP LIKE ONE POOL OPEN.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND, AND, BUT DO YOU, DID YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE TEMPERATURE WAS THIS YEAR, THE FOLLOWING WEEK AFTER LABOR DAY? NO.

WHY DON'T, LABOR DAY WAS COOL AND THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND, THE FOLLOW THE FOLLOWING WEEKEND, IT WAS LIKE, IT NEVER EVEN REACHED 70 DEGREES.

YEAH.

NOW IT'S HOT.

HOW DO I PLAN FOR THAT? RIGHT.

RIGHT.

UNLESS WE ALL GET OUR SAID, IF IT'S, UNLESS WE ALL GET OUR, IF IT'S OVER, SAY 85, 80 DEGREES, WE'LL WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN.

OR 85.

WE'LL KEEP IT OPEN.

WELL, WE'VE DONE, WE HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, AND SINCE YOU'VE BEEN HERE, WE, WHEN WE HIT 90 OKAY.

WE OPENED MM-HMM .

WE AT THREE O'CLOCK FOR LIKE, MAYBE THREE DAYS DURING THE WEEK.

SO MAYBE, UH, WHAT YOU, I'M JUST SAYING YOU MAYBE YOU COULD EXPLORE BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN THE BUDGET IS, YOU KNOW, FINALLY SUBMITTED, MAYBE DOING LIKE A TEST AND SAYING, LISTEN, IF THE WEATHER IS GONNA BE 90 DEGREES OR OVER, OR YOU COULD PICK A, A TEMPERATURE, THEN WE'LL KEEP THE POOL OPEN FOR A COUPLE HOURS.

AND THEN MAYBE WHEN YOU INTERVIEW THE LIFEGUARDS, WE COULD INDICATE.

SO JUST JUST TO GIVE YOU, WE INTERVIEW THOSE LIFEGUARDS EVERY YEAR.

ARE YOU GONNA WORK FOR SIX WEEKS THROUGHOUT THE CAMP SEASON? YES, SIR.

WE ARE.

YES SIR, WE ARE.

AND YOU KNOW, ON WEEK FIVE THEY DISAPPEAR.

OKAY.

AND THEY DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T EVEN TURN AROUND AND LOOK AT ME WHEN THEY LEAVE.

THAT HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.

SO ASKING A 15 TO 22-YEAR-OLD, WHETHER THEY'LL BE THERE THAT WEEKEND IS, IS A HOPE ONE, ONE WHEN I WAS GOING AROUND.

BECAUSE

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I, I MUST HAVE GONE LIKE EVERY OTHER WEEK WHERE EVERY WEEK TO THE POOL, JUST TALKING TO PEOPLE.

SO ONE SUGGESTION THAT, UM, CAME UP FROM, UM, UM, ONE OF THE POOL PATRONS WAS, UM, AT THE TIME YOU'RE INTERVIEWING, MAYBE YOU COULD SAY IF A LIFEGUARD, UH, WOULD COMMIT TO, UH, POST, YOU KNOW, SEPTEMBER.

RIGHT.

UM, POOL SERVICE.

UH, WE COULD GIVE THEM A BONUS IF THEY WOULD OR GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE.

ONLY IF THEY WOULD MAKE THE .

SO THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.

BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PAUL, HOW LONG HAVE WE WORKED TOGETHER? 35 YEARS.

YEAH.

AT THIS POINT.

WE HAD THIS CONVERSATION 35 YEARS AGO.

WE HAD 15 YEARS AGO.

YOU HAVE IT EVERY YEAR.

RIGHT.

IF IT'S NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE TO DO, YOU GOTTA MAKE A DECISION SOMETIMES.

AND NOT EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE HAPPY.

AND SO WE CHOOSE LABOR DAY RIGHT AS THE END OF THE SEASON.

UH, IF YOU CHOSE THE WEEKEND AFTER, THOSE SAME PEOPLE WOULD ASK YOU FOR THE WEEKEND AFTER THAT.

AND I JUST FEEL LIKE YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE A DECISION AT SOME POINT.

UM, WE HAVE STAYED OPEN WHEN IT'S OVER 90 DEGREES, YOU KNOW, UM, GUESSING THREE OR FOUR TIMES IN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS OR SO MM-HMM .

BUT IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN VERY OFTEN.

DID THE COUNTY SAY HOW THEY WERE ABLE TO MANAGE, UM, FISCALLY WITH EXTENDING THE FISCALLY? I MEAN, THEY JUST, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, IS THAT THEY SAID THERE WEREN'T THAT MANY PEOPLE THERE.

I JUST, I WANNA BE PRACTICAL ABOUT IT.

DID THEY EVEN GET PEOPLE TO STAFF THOUGH? UH, THEY DID.

THEY GOT ENOUGH.

BUT IT DEPENDS ON THE ACTUAL LOCATION.

IF YOU HAVE SOME POOLS, YOU CAN ACTUALLY PUT LESS LIFEGUARDS THERE.

'CAUSE YOU CAN SEE ACROSS THE POOL MM-HMM .

WE HAVE THE, YOU KNOW, THE KITTY POOL.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMEBODY BACK THERE.

YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE SOMEBODY AT THE OTHER END.

SO IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT.

IT JUST MAKES PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE TOWN.

BECAUSE WHEN I GO TO THE POOL, PEOPLE ARE SAYING, OH, WOULDN'T IT BE NICE IF WE COULD BE OPEN ANOTHER WEEKEND? SURE.

BUT IT'S PRACTICALITY.

THAT, AND THE FEASIBILITY, AS NICE AS IT WOULD BE, IF WE CAN'T GET THE STAFFING, THEN THAT BECOMES PROBLEMATIC.

AND IT IS DISCOURAGING FOR SOMEONE WHO COMES AND IT'S COLD BECAUSE IT'S GOTTEN COLD BEFORE SO THEY DON'T COME BACK.

SO, YOU KNOW WHAT, AND THE TURNOUT, YOU SAID EVEN THE COUNTY POOL POOLS EVEN DID IT WAS EVEN LOW.

WELL, CAN EVEN, BUT I CAN TALK ABOUT THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER TOO.

IF I TELL YOU THAT THE TEMPERATURE THAT WE HAD AT THAT WEEK, LAST WEEK OF, UH, SEPTEMBER, THE, WE HAD SOME OF THOSE SAME TEMPERATURES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER.

WE HAD TIMES WE HAD 25 PEOPLE WALK INTO THE POOL.

WE HAD MORE EMPLOYEES THAN WE HAD.

UH, PEOPLE WALK IN THE POOL.

MM-HMM.

WE STAYED OPEN BECAUSE IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF THE SUMMER.

AND WE MAKE THAT COMMITMENT TO DO THAT.

MM-HMM .

CARRYING IT INTO THE, UH, END OF THE SEASON WHEN WE KNOW THE TEMPERATURE'S GONNA BE DROPPING DOWN IS, UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD BUSINESS DECISION.

IS THERE A TEMPERATURE BELOW WHICH YOU WILL NOT OPEN THE POOL? WE ACTUALLY DID CLOSE IT ONE DAY THIS YEAR BECAUSE IT DID NOT GET TO 62 DEGREES.

IT WAS ONE OF THE ONLY TIMES THAT EVER DID THAT.

YEAH.

AND WE HAD NO, WE, WE OPENED THE LAP POOL AND AGAIN, THERE WERE SOME HARDY SOULS THAT SHOWED UP.

UH, NOT MANY.

I THINK THERE WAS FIVE MAYBE.

UM, OR IF IT'S POURING RAIN, YOU DON'T OPEN.

NO, WE DO, WE ACTUALLY OPEN FOR RAIN, BUT WE DON'T, WE OPEN FOR RAIN, NOT MEAN NOT FOR LIGHTNING AND THUNDER.

WE, WHEN I GO TO THE POOL, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M FINDING THAT ONE DAY THERE'S MAYBE ONLY LIKE THREE OR FOUR DAYS WHERE IT'S REALLY CROWDED, WOULD YOU SAY? AND MOST, YOU KNOW, MOST OF THE TIME IT'S NOT CROWDED AT ALL.

WE'VE HAD, UM, MAYBE ABOUT SIX DAYS THAT WERE PACKED.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

BUT THAT'S NORMAL.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST, THAT'S WEATHER DRIVEN.

IT'S, UH, WEEKEND DRIVEN.

OKAY.

SHOULD GET BACK TO THE BUDGET THOUGH, BECAUSE LET ME ASK A QUE THIS IS, THIS IS ABOUT THE BUDGET, BUT BECAUSE EVERY TIME I'M AT THE POOL, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM ARDSLEY AND THE VILLAGES AND THEIR GUESTS, AND THEY SAY, WHY CAN'T WE GET RID OF THE NER IN-LAW? AND I'M WONDERING IF WE'RE NOT HAVING A LOT OF USES AT THE, AT THE, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT USED TO CAPACITY, DO YOU FEEL THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE FOR THE TOWN, UH, REC, PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD TO REVISIT THE NER IN-LAW AND SEE IF IT SHOULD BE TWEAKED? BECAUSE I'M SAYING THIS IS A, THIS IS REALLY A REVENUE, A POTENTIAL REVENUE, UM, YOU KNOW, GENERATOR IF WE'RE NOT MAKING, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE NOT MAKING MONEY, I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT JERRY, UM, BROUGHT TOGETHER A GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM ALL THE VILLAGES, UM, I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER HOW LONG AGO IT WAS MAYBE ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO.

YES.

EVERY, ABOUT 10 YEARS.

10 YEARS AGO, THEY COULD NOT COME TO A CONCLUSION ON HOW TO ADDRESS THE FINN IN LAW AND MAKE IT EQUITABLE WITH THE VILLAGES.

OKAY.

UM, I COULD GO BACK AND I COULD PULL ALL THAT PAPERWORK OUT AGAIN.

BUT WE HAD SOME REALLY SMART PEOPLE TO TABLE.

WE HAD SOME VERY MOTIVATED PEOPLE AT THE TABLE THAT WANTED TO DO IT.

AND, AND THE VILLAGES THAT HAVE THEIR OWN POOLS ARE NOT GONNA GO FOR IT ANYWAY.

RIGHT.

THEY DON'T WANT, YEAH.

THEY, AND SO IT GETS VERY COMPLICATED BECAUSE, YOU KNOW,

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AS YOU KNOW, BEFORE THE NER IN LAW, THE TOWN AND THE VILLAGES MADE SOME ERRORS, UH, IN THE WAY THAT THEY BUILT THINGS IN JUDGMENT AND THEN JUDGMENT.

RIGHT.

AND THEN THE, THE FIN IN LAW WAS TO FIX THAT.

AND NOW, UH, UNWINDING IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT.

ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE SAID TO ALL THE VILLAGES AND THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE TO ME, I SAID, YOU KNOW, IF THE VILLAGES WOULD PAY THE SAME RECREATION TAX THAT IF EVERY, IF THE VILLAGES WOULD PAY THE SAME FEE THAT UNINCORPORATED RESIDENTS WOULD PAY, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I'D BE OPEN TO IT.

THEY, IN THE PA YOU KNOW, YOU MENTIONED A LOT OF THE VILLAGES WITH A POOL, THEY'RE NOT GONNA WANNA DO IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, OR LEY.

RIGHT.

IRVINGTON, THEY MIGHT WANT TO DO IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THEIR OWN MUNICIPAL POOLS.

RIGHT.

AND YOU KNOW, I'M JUST SAYING THAT I GOT IT.

I UNDERSTAND.

YOU KNOW, MAYBE, MAYBE, AND ALSO PEOPLE COULD STILL USE A SPRAIN POOL, YOU KNOW, ON JACKSON AVENUE, WHICH IS A COUNTY POOL, WHICH IS REALLY PRETTY NICE ALSO.

BUT I'M SAYING, I'M NOT SAYING THAT ANYBODY WOULD DO IT, BUT I'M SAYING IT COMES UP EVERY TIME I'M, UH, EVERY TIME YOU RAISE IT.

NO, THEY RAISED PEOPLE TIME.

NO, THEY RAISED IT TO ME.

THE, WHEN I'M, WHEN I WAS AT DO FESTA, YOU KNOW, A FEW DAYS AGO, 10 PEOPLE MENTIONED IT TO ME, DO ITS OWN POOL.

WHAT? YEAH.

BUT PEOPLE COME FROM EVERYWHERE.

HE WAS JUST TALKING.

THEY HAD 10,000 PEOPLE THERE, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO 10 PEOPLE RAISED IT WHEN I'M WAS IN ALEY.

A FEW, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

WE, WE COULD ALWAYS REVISIT, GO BACK AND LOOK AT IT.

WE COULD FORM A COMMITTEE AGAIN, BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THIS WOULD END UP AT THE SAME SPOT AGAIN.

OKAY.

SO I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THEN IT MUST HAVE BEEN PROVED THAT THERE'S NOT A WAY TO PAY A RECREATION FEE WITHOUT BREAKING THE FEDERAL IN LAW.

THERE'S NO WAY.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

YEAH.

IT WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE STATE.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO REDO THE LAW.

IT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

YEAH.

AND, UM, AND, AND IN TERMS OF THE VILLAGES LOWERING THE FEES TO BE COMPARABLE OR RAISING FEES TO BE COMPARABLE FEES, THEY WOULD HAVE, FEES WOULD BE THE SAME AMOUNT.

BUT WHAT IS IT NOW? ARE THEY, DO THEY HAVE LOWER FEES OR HIGHER FEES? YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT RECREATION FEES, RIGHT? YOU'RE, YOU'RE SAYING THEY'D HAVE TO BE THE SAME AMOUNT FEES TO THE SAME AMOUNT.

AND I'M ASKING YOU WHETHER CURRENTLY AS IT STANDS, DO THEY HAVE HIGHER FEES THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO LOWER TO BE COMPARABLE? OR DO THEY HAVE LOWER FEES? AM I MISSING SOMETHING THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT? FIRST OFF, THE ONLY WAY TO FIGURE IT OUT WOULD BE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PERCENTAGE OUR BUDGET IS THAT THE TAXPAYER PAYS AND WHAT PERCENTAGE ADOPTS FERRY PERSON PAYS FOR THEIR RECREATION.

MM-HMM .

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

AND THEN, AND THAT'S VERY COMPLICATED.

'CAUSE IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FOR EVERY SINGLE VILLAGE.

RIGHT.

THAT'S, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WAS GOING WITH THAT.

LIKE HOW, HOW DO YOU GET VILLAGE TO, TO PARSE THAT OUT AND RIGHT.

BUT I'M SURE THAT, I'M SURE THAT THE FIRST THING THAT THE NEW MAYOR OF VARLEY IS GONNA SAY IS LET'S REVISIT THE FIN IN LAW.

SO I'M SAYING IF WE ARE SURE, YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE LOOKING, I'M, I'M POSITIVE THAT IT'S GONNA, BECAUSE IT COMES UP EVERY TIME THAT, UH, SO I'M JUST SAYING THAT MAYBE IF, UH, THE PARKS AND RECREATION, YOU KNOW, BOARD WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS OUR OFFER.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO PAY THE FULL RECREATION TAX THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS PAID.

WELL, YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE MAKING THIS, I THINK, TOO SIMPLE.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE.

IT'S VERY INFRASTRUCTURE, VERY, THERE'S THERE IT'S VERY INTERTWINED.

UH, THIS, THIS LAW, THE WAY IT'S, IT'S PLAYED OUT.

MM-HMM .

AND WHEN WE HAD EVERYBODY AT THE TABLE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE VILLAGES THERE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, UH, HOWARD KAPLAN WAS THERE.

HE WAS LEAVING, NEVER REMEMBER.

OKAY.

AND HOWARD, WHO IS A VERY SMART GUY AND VERY, AND HE WAS VERY MOTIVATED TO TRY AND DO THIS, HE FINALLY SAID, IT'S NOT WORTH IT.

IT'S JUST NOT WORTH IT.

RIGHT.

YOU REMEMBER THIS, RIGHT? YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, I WOULD CALL HIM UP AGAIN AND SAY, LISTEN, WHAT DO YOU THINK? I THINK HE'D PROBABLY SAID THE SAME.

WE'RE RUNNING BECAUSE NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

YEAH.

WE GOTTA KEEP MOVING.

GOING.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO GO? UM, 71 80, UM, THE, UH, NUTRITION BUDGET IS STAYING PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.

I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE ANYTHING THERE.

IS THAT THE CN C DID WE WANT THE CN DID WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE CAPITAL BUDGET AT ALL TONIGHT? OKAY.

BECAUSE NO, NO, NO.

THAT WASN'T PART OF IT.

I JUST WANT, I BROUGHT IT JUST IN CASE.

OKAY.

UM, BUT THAT, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PRESENTED TONIGHT.

IT WAS, ARE WE DOING, WOW, HERE I AM.

I GOT IT.

THIS IS GREAT.

.

YEAH.

THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE CONCURRENT BOLT AT THE SAME TIME.

THAT'S RIGHT.

WE DID.

SO I DIDN'T BRING COPIES FOR THAT, BUT I CAN JUST TELL YOU HOW CAN WE DO IT.

ALRIGHT.

ALRIGHT.

COME ON.

GIMME A BREAK HERE.

I'M, YOU'RE, I'M GONNA, WE CAN MAKE COPIES.

SO WE HAVE FIVE ITEMS, LEMME JUST SAY, AND THEY'RE ALL VEHICLES.

WAIT, BEFORE THAT, THE NUTRITION PROGRAM, THE MEALS AND WHEEL, ARE WE, DO WE GET ANY FEDERAL GRANTS? WE DO.

SO, UH, BECAUSE OF A SNAP GRANT, ARE WE STILL GET ANY? SO FAR WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WORD THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING HEARD ON THAT ONE.

I BELIEVE THAT THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM RUNS A DEFICIT EVERY YEAR AND IT'S SUBSIDIZED BY THE PROGRAM BY

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TOWN OF GREENBURG.

IT'S UP.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE PROGRAM IS SUBSIDIZED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG? IT IS, ABSOLUTELY.

OF COURSE IT IS BECAUSE WE DON'T GET NEARLY AS MANY GRANTS IN AS WE ACTUALLY PAY OUT IN, UH, EXPENDITURES.

AND THERE'S USUALLY AN AMOUNT WE PUT INTO BUDGET THAT SAYS HOW MUCH WE PREDICT THE TOWN'S GONNA HAVE TO TAKE FROM THE, A BUDGET BUDGET TO PUMP INTO THE CN BUDGET BECAUSE THAT PARTICULAR PROGRAM COVERS ALL THE VILLAGES.

OKAY.

SO IT'S CALLED THE CN BUDGET BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF, UH, ENTERPRISE IN SOME WAYS BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY HAS SOME OF ITS BENEFITS FOR THE EMPLOYEES BUILT INTO IT WHERE THEY DON'T, THEY'RE NOT BUILT INTO THE, UH, B BUDGETS OR THE A BUDGETS THEY'RE HELD SEPARATELY.

UM, BUT THE MONEY THAT PUMPS INTO IT COMES FROM THE A BUDGET SO THAT WE CAN SERVICE HASTINGS DOBBS FERRY.

SO HOW MUCH FEDERAL DOLLARS DO WE GET RIGHT NOW? TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, PAUL, I'D HAVE TO PULL THAT UP.

I DON'T KNOW.

RIGHT NOW THE BUDGET IS USUALLY SUBSIDIZED BY ABOUT 50%.

OKAY.

OVERALL, THERE'S MULTIPLE GRANTS THAT WE THAT, THAT COME INTO THAT PROGRAM.

UM, A LOT OF 'EM ARE, THEY'RE STATE GRANTS THAT COME INTO THE PROGRAM ALSO.

UM, AND SO WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY WORD ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA BE LOSING ANY OF THOSE GRANTS.

YEAH.

BUT OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THOSE GRANTS, AND KIMBERLY KNOWS THIS TOO, IS THE FACT THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE WAY BEHIND ALWAYS ON PAYING US IS THE TOWN FRONTS THE MONEY, AND THEN WE HAVE TO CHASE DOWN, UH, MAKING SURE THE CONTRACTS ARE SIGNED, UH, NOT BY THE TOWN AS MUCH, BUT BY EVEN GETTING THEM FROM THE COUNTY AND GETTING THEM PROCESSED AND THEN ACTUALLY SUBMITTING THEN OUR, OUR OUR VOUCHERS TO GET MONEY BACK.

BUT I'M JUST SORT OF CURIOUS, MAYBE KIMBERLY WOULD KNOW, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH WE'RE ACTUALLY GETTING FOR THE MEALS PROGRAM, THE NUTRITION PROGRAM, BECAUSE YOU KNOW, IF THERE, IF THERE'S GONNA BE POTENTIAL CUTS, IT WOULD BE NICE TO, TO KNOW.

AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TRUMP'S GONNA DO WITH THE BEAUTIFUL BULL.

SORRY.

WE'LL, EDITORIAL YOU QUOTE BEAUTIFUL , IT MAY NOT BE BEAUTIFUL.

RIGHT.

UM, I I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.

WELL, KIMBERLY WOULD, YOU KNOW, I CAN CALL THE, UH, AUDITED FINANCIALS AND WRITE THE NUMBER IN THE COMMENT.

JUST GIMME A MINUTE PLEASE.

ARE, ARE MO ARE MOST OF THOSE MONIES, UM, OR SOME OF THOSE MONIES, SOME COMBINATION THEREOF, FUNNELED THROUGH THE STATE OR THEY PAID DIRECTLY? THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

THEY'RE FUNNELED THROUGH THE COUNTY OR FUNNELED THROUGH THE COUNTY.

EVERYTHING THAT WE GET, IT'S FUNNELED THROUGH THE COUNTY.

OKAY.

EVEN THE FEDERAL MONEY COMES THROUGH THE COUNTY.

SO WE SUBMIT EVERYTHING TO THE COUNTY TO GET IT.

UM MM-HMM .

IS THAT CUTTING MEDICAID? THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA, MY GUESS IS THAT THERE'S PROBABLY GONNA BE SOME POTENTIAL CUTS.

WELL, WELL I DO KNOW WE GET SNAP MONEY AND WE ALL KNOW THAT SNAP HAS BEEN CUT.

YEAH.

BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY'VE CUT IT DIRECTLY TO SENIORS OR WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO MOTHERS.

I MEAN, WHO, WHO KNOWS THE SNAP MONEY THOUGH, ISN'T THAT FUNNELED THROUGH STATE OR IS THAT FUNNELED STATEMENT? RIGHT? SNAP IS STATE.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO, BUT THERE ARE MULTIPLE GRANTS THERE AND THEY'RE NOT ALL LISTED ON SOME OF THE UM, UH, BUDGET INPUT THAT WE HAD.

UM, YEAH, IT'S A LOT OF TIMES THAT'LL SOMETHING IT'S JUST SO HARD TO TELL A WE'LL WORK WITH THE COMPTROLLER ON LATER.

YEAH.

OKAY.

UM, I'LL READ THROUGH THE FIVE CAPITAL ITEMS THAT WE PUT IN.

UM, THEY ONLY TOTAL $357,000 AND 500.

500.

UH, THESE ARE THE ESTIMATES WE'RE PUTTING IN FOR A REPLACEMENT FOR OUR FOUR BY FOUR CREW CAB, DUMP TRUCK WITH A PLOW.

UM, THE ONE THAT WE HAVE IS, UH, DUE FOR REPLACEMENT AT THIS POINT.

THE VEHICLE, WHICH IS A 2010 MODEL, HAS 89,000 MILES ON IT.

THE TRUCK IS NEEDED FOR LAWN AND BALLFIELD MAINTENANCE, WHICH OVERSEES MORE THAN 100 ACRES OF MANICURED LAWN AND TURF.

UM, IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S, IT'S LIVED ITS EXPECTED LIFE.

IS THAT GONNA GO FOR AUCTION ONCE YOU GET THE NEW ONE? UH, IT GOES TO AUCTION.

YES.

RIGHT.

EXACTLY.

WE TURN THAT OVER TO DPW AND THEN THEY AUCTION THAT OFF.

UM, BUT WE ANTICIPATE THAT THE, UH, REPLACEMENT COST OF THAT VEHICLE IS GONNA BE $115,000.

UM, WE ARE HAD MECHANICAL PROBLEMS. YES, ABSOLUTELY.

ONCE WE START, WE WORK WITH THE REPAIR SHOP AND DPW AND WE GO BACK AND FORTH WITH THEM AND THEY'LL TELL US IT'S TIME.

THIS ONE IS, UH, BEEN, YOU KNOW, WE SEE IT MORE THAN YOU DO.

THAT'S USUALLY A KEY.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THE, WE HAVE A WIDE AREA MOWER THAT WE NEED.

JOHN DEERE 1600 TURBO MOWER.

THESE ARE, AS EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE HAVE LOTS OF GRASS TO CUT, WE HAVE BALL FIELDS TO CUT, WE HAVE PARKS TO CUT THAT ARE CONSTANTLY BEING CUT.

WE CUT OUR, OUR MOWER CUTTING.

UM, SCHEDULE IS BASICALLY 10 TO 14 DAYS.

DEPENDS ON IF IT RAINS.

DEPENDS ON, UH, YOU KNOW, OUR STAFFING TOO.

UM, THAT PARTICULAR PIECE OF EQUIPMENT IS ESTIMATED TO BE $83,000.

OKAY.

UM, THIS, AND THE NEXT ONE IS ACTUALLY THE, UM, VEHICLE NUMBER 1 0 2 2013.

FORD ESCAPE CURRENTLY HAS 75,000 MILES AND IT'S BREAKING DOWN THIS PARK.

THIS ONE IS USED BY

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OUR PARK SUPERINTENDENT.

WE, IF WE GET THIS, WE WERE, UH, LIKING THIS TO BE REPLACED BY A PLUGIN HYBRID, UH, VEHICLE.

ALSO THE SAME ONE THAT WE REPLACED A PREVIOUS VEHICLE WITH BEFORE.

UH, AS TOO BAD WE DIDN'T DO IT BEFORE OCTOBER 1ST BY WHEN? UM, BECAUSE, BECAUSE THERE WAS A $7,500 OH REALLY? CREDIT THAT'S NOW GONE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

THAT VEHICLE, UH, THAT, YOU KNOW, AS I SAID BEFORE, THAT VEHICLE, I LOOKED AT IT TODAY, UM, HAS ACCUMULATED 7,700 MILES SINCE WE GOT IT.

AND WE'VE USED A ONE AND A HALF TANKS OF GAS.

SO IT PLUGS IN, IT GETS 50 MILES BEFORE I HAVE TO REPLUG IT IN BEFORE IT SWITCHES TO HYBRID.

AND SO IT'S REALLY BEEN BENEFICIAL FOR THE TOWN BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY OUR ELECTRIC COSTS ARE A LOT LOWER THAN OUR GAS COSTS.

SO THAT COST IS ESTIMATED TO BE, WHERE IS THAT, WHERE IS THAT COST? $48,500.

NEXT, THE DEPARTMENT, SMITHCO FIELD GRADER WAS PURCHASED IN 2014, HAS OVER 2,500 HOURS OF USE ON IT, WHICH IS VERY HIGH BY THE WAY.

THE SMITHCO IS ACTUALLY USED WHAT WE USE FOR OUR BALL FIELDS FOR, UH, DRAGGING THEM, PREPARING THEM FOR THE GAMES AT NIGHT.

UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE THAT AT THIS POINT, AND THAT'S GONNA COST $53,000.

OKAY.

UM, THE LAST VEHICLE, VEHICLE 1 0 9.

VEHICLE 1 0 9 IS A VAN TO REPLACE THE 1 0 9 VEHICLE WE HAVE PRESENTLY, WHICH IS 2014 FORD TRANSIT.

UH, THAT PARTICULAR IS USED BY OUR MAINTENANCE MECHANIC.

IT'S ACTUALLY, UM, IT'S A CARPENTRY SHOP AND A REPAIR VEHICLE ON WHEELS.

RIGHT.

AND SO WE, THAT ONE'S STARTING TO BREAK DOWN A LOT TOO.

SO WE WOULD LIKE TO REPLACE THAT ONE.

THAT ONE'S 58,000.

SO OUR TOTAL THIS YEAR IS $357,500, WHICH I THINK IS PROBABLY THE LOWEST THAT WE'VE ACTUALLY ASKED FOR IN MANY YEARS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO TALK ABOUT IF WE'RE GONNA BE DOING SIDEWALKS AND PLOWING, WHAT EQUIPMENT'S GONNA BE NEEDED FOR THAT? THAT'LL BE A VERY INTERESTING CONVERSATION.

OKAY.

BECAUSE WE ACTUALLY DID, WHEN WE DID COLUMBIA, UH, WHEN WE TOOK ON COLUMBIA AVENUE, WE BOUGHT A PARTICULAR PIECE OF, OF EQUIPMENT CALLED A VEN TRACK, WHICH ACTUALLY DOES SIDEWALKS, IT'S MADE FOR SIDEWALKS.

IT'S, THEY STAND, THE GUY STAND BEHIND IT AND THEY DRIVE IT AND IT'S THE WIDTH, BE ABLE TO GET DOWN SIDEWALKS.

UM, AND THAT HELPED A LOT WHEN WE DID THAT.

THAT'S GREAT.

SO IF WE HAVE TO ADD MORE SIDEWALKS, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THAT WOULD BE A PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE WOULD PROBABLY EXPAND ON.

OKAY.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

IF ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS, GO THE, JUST THE FIRST BUDGET.

I DIDN'T WRITE IT DOWN.

THE FIRST, THE A, WHAT WAS THAT FOR? SPECIAL RECREATION.

SPECIAL RECREATION.

THANKS.

SPECIAL RECREATION.

THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'RE ASKING.

YES.

UH, YOU KNOW, HOW, SAY IN A TYPICAL WEEK, HOW OFTEN IS IT USED? SO YOU EVERY DAY.

EVERY DAY.

EVERY SINGLE DAY.

SO WE HAVE A STAFF OF 27 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AND THE, UH, PARKS DEPARTMENT HEAD IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ALL THE TIME AND MANY VEHICLES LIKE THE PICKUP TRUCK OR THE TRANSIT, UM, UM, MECHANICS PRO, HE NEEDS THAT EVERY DAY TO GO TO A PARK.

WE'VE GOT, YOU REMEMBER, WE, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS VERY LARGE.

RIGHT.

AND WE'VE GOT PARKS THAT GO ALL THE WAY FROM TAX TO RIDGE DOWN TO CRANE POND, EVERYWHERE.

SO WHEN THEY GET IN AND THEY TAKE OFF, THEY'RE NOT SITTING AROUND AT VETERAN PARK.

THEY HAVE TO GET SOMEWHERE.

AND SO THOSE VEHICLES ARE VERY IMPORTANT, UM, TO OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD DO THE TOWN CLERK NEXT WEEK.

'CAUSE WE'RE RIGHT, RIGHT NOW AT THE TIME WHEN WE'RE GONNA HAVE INTERVIEWS, WE STILL HAVE AGENDA REVIEW AND AGENDA REVIEW.

SIR, WE'RE NOT, I PUT THE, UH, PAUL, I ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS THERE IN THE CHAT THIS YEAR, NEGATIVE CASH BALANCE IS 133,714.

WHAT IS THAT? DEPARTMENT INCOME IS 68,000.

OH.

STATE AID IS 163.

UH, 65,984.

FEDERAL AID IS 140,244.

AND THERE'S 2 640 $5,000 IN TRANSFER.

RIGHT.

SO IT'S NOT GONNA MAKE OR BREAK THE TOWN IF WE, IT'S, IT'S, YEAH.

AND I BELIEVE STATE, UM, HAD MONIES IN THEIR BUDGETS TO COVER, EVEN IF THEY DON'T GET SOME FEDERAL MONIES.

I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, BUT I THINK THAT IT WON'T JUST FOR THIS YEAR, NOT FOR GOING FORWARD FOR 27.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

GOODNIGHT.

OKAY.

NOW WE CAN GO ON THE AGENDA.

MOVING TO NEXT WEEK.

YEAH.

AS LONG AS IT'S NOT THE WEEK AFTER NEXT.

WE'RE GOOD.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

AND, OKAY.

PAUL, DO YOU WANT ANNOUNCE THAT WE ARE GONNA DO THE TOWN CLERK BUDGET ON OUR NEXT STEP? YEAH, THE TOWN CLERK'S BUDGET IS GONNA BE DONE.

YOU SAID NEXT WEEK OR

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THE WEEK AFTER? UH, NEXT WEEK.

NEXT WEEK.

OKAY.

NEXT WEEK.

AND THE TAX RECEIVER AS WELL.

RIGHT.

AND THE TAX RECEIVER.

OKAY.

SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GO OVER THE AGENDA, REVIEW THE MEETING TOMORROW, STARTING AT 7:00 PM UH, THAT'S THE 7:00 PM PORTION IS BASICALLY JUST HONORING HIS HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH.

AND THEN WE'RE, THE MEETING WILL BEGIN AT SEVEN 30.

SO DID WE CHANGE, I'M SORRY.

WE HAVE TWO MEETINGS.

DID WE, DID WE CHANGE SOMETHING? 'CAUSE I THOUGHT WHEN WE FIRST WALKED IN, WE SAID THAT THE, THAT THE HISPANIC EVENT WAS GOING TO BE AT, START AT SEVEN 30.

DID I MISS THAT? NO, BUT I'M STILL, WE NEED A COMBINATION OF THESE TWO PAGES WE NEED TO PUT BACK.

THE TOWN BOARD WILL BE ON A HISPANIC, HISPANIC HERITAGE MONTH, BEGINNING AT SEVEN 30 AFTER OF COURSE THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

A MOMENT.

MR. FOLDER.

THE ENVELOPE.

OKAY.

BUT, UH, MARIA SAID THAT SHE TOLD ALL, UH, THE PEOPLE THAT WE WERE, THAT SHE WAS HAVING THE CEREMONY AT SEVEN, SEVEN O'CLOCK.

YES.

BUT THEN YOU WEIGHED IN THAT YOU WANTED IT TO BE AT SEVEN 30.

NO, BUT THEN I JUST SAW HER.

RIGHT.

YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

BUT WE NOTICED THE MEETING, WE'VE NOTICED, WE MEAN NOTICED THE MEETING.

SO, SO WE'RE NOT GONNA START ANYTHING AT SEVEN 30 AT SEVEN? NO, WE'RE STARTING AT SEVEN 30.

AT SEVEN 30.

SO THAT'S WHAT, REMEMBER I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WERE SITTING BY THE TIME EVERYBODY GETS HERE, IT IS GONNA START ON TIME AT SEVEN 30.

RIGHT.

SO IF MARIA WILL PRETEND, PRETEND IT'S STARTING AT SEVEN, LET THE PEOPLE KNOW THAT WE ARE STARTING, THAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT.

SO THEY SHOULD BE HERE BY, THEY SHOULD COME AT SEVEN.

START, START COMING AT SEVEN.

WE GONNA START, START AT SEVEN 30.

SHARP.

WE'LL HAVE MEET AND GREET AT SEVEN O'CLOCK.

OKAY.

MEET AND GREET AT SEVEN 30.

AND AT SEVEN 30 WILL BE THE CEREMONY.

MM-HMM .

WELL, PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE, MOMENT OF SILENCE CEREMONY.

RIGHT.

BUT I'M JUST SAYING WITH MARIA, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S PEOPLE, PEOPLE COULD JUST CHAT AND IT WOULD BE, UM, GARY NETWORKING.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

LET'S SEE.

I'M GONNA ASK AGAIN.

COULD SOMEBODY TAKE THE BANNER OF FLAGS AND SWAP IT? JUST REMOVE THE AMERICAN FLAG IS ON THAT SIDE.

OR REMOVE IT.

YEAH, REMOVE THE AMERICAN FLAG.

WE HAVE OUR BIG AMERICAN FLAG AT THE TOP AND WE'RE NOT DOING OUR LIAISON REPORTS.

CORRECT.

'CAUSE YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE HERE.

AND WE HAVE A VERY BIG NO, BUT I WAS PREPARED.

SO Y'ALL LET ME KNOW WHAT Y'ALL WANT TO DO.

WELL, I THOUGHT WE HAVE A VERY LONG AGENDA THOUGH.

I MEAN, I'M FINE.

YEAH.

LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU WANT.

WANT OFF THE CAMERAS.

OKAY.

I, OKAY.

SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? I MEAN, WE DO THE LIAISON REPORTS OR NOT? WELL, WE HAVEN'T DONE THEM IN A WHILE.

OKAY.

WHO CAN, I'M JUST SAYING, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BIG TOMORROW'S A I HAVE A LOT OF PRESENTATIONS.

WE DO, BUT WE ALSO HAVE, FOR THE FOLLOWING, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT TOO.

SO, UM, LEMME DO IT THE NEXT TIME.

OKAY.

SO WE'RE GONNA HOLD UP, UP.

'CAUSE THEN IF THESE THINGS DO GO LONG, PEOPLE GONNA GET UPSET.

EXACTLY.

YEAH.

BUT ALSO, AND, UH, THE ORDER OF THE PRESENTATIONS, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT ALL THESE OTHER, WHAT'S THAT? IF WE'RE HAVING A CELEBRATION OF HISPANIC HERITAGE, I THOUGHT WE SORT OF ESTABLISHED THAT.

THAT WOULD THEN BE OUR ONE PRESENTATION FOR THAT MEETING.

AND THAT'S GONNA BE A 20 MINUTE PRESENTATION.

AND WE HAVE THREE OTHER PRESENTATIONS.

THE OTHER ONES ARE VERY SHORT.

FIVE MINUTES.

THERE'RE ALWAYS FIVE MINUTES.

THE MEETING, THEY'VE NECESSARILY BEEN GIVEN THAT DIRECTION MINUTES BECAUSE OFTEN YOU, YOU SAID THAT THEY WERE FIVE MINUTES AND IT WILL BE FIVE MINUTES.

IT SAYS 10 MINUTES EACH.

THAT'S 30 MINUTES BEFORE WE EVEN GET IT WON'T, IT WON'T BE 10 MINUTES, IT'LL BE LESS.

AND WHAT ARE THESE, YOU KNOW, UM, THERE'S A SIXTH GRADER WHO'S TALKING ABOUT THE NEED FOR SIDEWALK REPAIRS.

SO I INVITED HER.

THAT'S GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE MINUTES.

UM, SHE CAN'T DO PUBLIC COMMENT.

SPEAKING OF PUBLIC COMMENT.

NO.

YEAH, I I ALREADY TOLD THEM I'VE, UH, DEB CHOKI, UH, BEACH LEAF DISEASE, THAT'S 5, 5, 6 MINUTES.

I, I EMAILED HIM YESTERDAY.

UH, THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE WE'RE GIVING THE AWARD.

YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, IT'S GONNA BE FIVE, SIX MINUTES AND THAT'S A, IT'S NOT USUALLY LONGER GOING FORWARD.

CAN WE PLEASE, WHEN WE HAVE A HERITAGE CELEBRATION, KEEP IT JUST TO THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S A LENGTHY ONE.

WE'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, AND NOW PEOPLE, WHEN THEY GET HONORED, THEY WANNA COME UP AND TALK AS THEY, WELL, THEY SHOULD LIKE PENNY LIKE ICE CREAM AND THE OTHERS.

AND IT'S GONNA BE VERY LONG.

I'M SURE I'M GONNA TELL EVERYBODY.

AND IT SLOWS UP THE TIMING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, BECAUSE ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE MANY ITEMS ON THAT.

WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR TOMORROW.

SO PUBLIC COMMENT REALLY

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ENDS UP BEING LATE AND PEOPLE REALLY AREN'T HAPPY ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S, SO, SO THAT'S THAT THERE IS, UH, SOME, THERE'S A LOT OF SENSE IN NOT HAVING OTHER PRESENTATIONS.

YEAH.

I JUST WANNA MENTION THAT TODAY I GOT A REALLY NICE EMAIL, UH, ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO.

THERE WAS, UH, A SECOND GRADER WHO MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE TOWN BOARD, UM, ABOUT GETTING INVOLVED IN MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

SHE, SHE WAS LOBBYING THE TOWN BOARD TO REPAVE, UH, JACKSON AVENUE, AND NOW SHE'S APPLYING TO COLLEGE.

AND, UH, AND SHE ASKED, UH, FOR A COPY OF THE, THE TAPE THAT SHE DID WHEN SHE MADE THE PRESENTATION AT THE TOWN BOARD.

AND SHE'S USING HER SECOND GRADE PRESENTATION, UM, AS PART OF HER COLLEGE, UH, APPLICATION.

AND I SORT OF THOUGHT, YEAH, THAT'S GREAT.

I WAS, YOU KNOW, SO SOMETIMES WE GIVE BACK TO, SOMETIMES, UH, YOU, WE MAKE THESE, YOU KNOW, PRESENTATIONS AND WE COULD, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD HEAR A SECOND GRADER OR LIKE THIS SIXTH GRADER WHO'S GONNA BE SPEAKING THAT.

THAT'S ALL FINE IF WE DON'T HAVE A PACKED AGENDA LIKE WE DO FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, NO ONE WANTS TO TAKE AWAY FROM, UH, YOU KNOW.

YEAH.

BUT THERE'S SO MANY HIGHLIGHTING ANYBODY, THERE'S SO MANY KIDS, YOU KNOW, EXCEPTIONAL STUDENTS WHO ARE REALLY JUST AMAZING THAT I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT, UH, IT'S NICE, UH, TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND, YOU KNOW, AND IT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL GOOD ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.

NO ONE IS ARGUING WITH THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

WELL, IN THE FUTURE, FUTURE, IF THERE'S A, A HERITAGE MONTH, A BIG CELEBRATION, THEN I WILL, UH, UH, I'LL DEFER TO ANOTHER MEETING.

ALL RIGHT.

I'M, I'M GONNA SAY ONE MORE THING.

I THINK LIKE, WE DO HAVE TO HAVE THREE ME BOARD MEMBERS PUT SOMETHING ON FOR, UH, THE AGENDA OR WORK SESSION AGENDA.

WE SHOULD HAVE THREE BOARD MEMBERS PUT THINGS ON FOR PRESENTATIONS.

NO, I, I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THESE THINGS ARE.

NO.

'CAUSE BASICALLY I'VE, I'VE BEEN DOING THIS, YOU KNOW, CONSTANTLY AND I NEVER CENSOR ANYBODY ON THE TOWN BOARD.

AND I DON'T WANNA BE CENSORED.

YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT CENSOR.

AND THAT'S, IT'S NOT CENSORSHIP ABOUT TIME MANAGEMENT.

I, I, I WANNA, I WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE PRESENTATIONS ARE SHORT AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE UP THAT RIGHT.

TO PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

OKAY.

NEXT.

WASN'T THE ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT GONNA BE POSTPONED? I SPOKE TO GARRETT.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE DIDN'T GET, WE DIDN'T GET THE, UM, THE DOCUMENTS OUT IN TIME.

AND FRANKLY, THERE'S STILL A WORK IN PROGRESS.

SO GARRETT'S WORKING ON THEM.

SO WE'RE GONNA HOLD OVER THAT HEARING.

OKAY.

THEN PEOPLE SHOULD, SHOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.

ANYONE WHO'S WATCHING AND WHO IS PLANNING ON COMING TOMORROW TO MAKE A STATEMENT TO THE OCTOBER 22ND MEETING RIGHT NEXT MEETING.

THERE'S NO HEARING.

THERE'S, OKAY.

UM, SEE, TV ONE IS ON THAT'S GOOD.

, I TOLD YOU.

YEAH.

YEAH.

UM, AND TB TWO, THAT'S THE SAME ARRANGEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH THE VILLAGE OF TERRYTOWN.

YES, IT IS.

OKAY.

IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, A T ONE, UM, WITH THE FORECLOSURE PROCEEDINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, UM, TO HAVE, UM, YOU KNOW, PRESENTATION, UM, YOU KNOW, BY VENITA AS TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF, UH, THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS.

YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH HAS COME IN, UH, RECENTLY SHE SAID THE LETTER KI GOT THAT THEY, THAT THIS FIRM, UH, SENT OUT GOT VERY LITTLE RESPONSES, YOU KNOW, AND I, WELL, AND THAT'S, THAT'S ONLY ONE MINOR THING THEY'RE WORKING ON.

THEY, WHAT THEY REALLY ARE WORKING ON IS WHAT TB THREE IS ABOUT TO SEEK RFP FOR THE AUCTION PURPOSES.

UM, BECAUSE WE WOULD LIKE AN AUCTION FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MANY YEARS, AND WE'RE PLANNING ON FOLLOWING IT UP AT SEVERAL AUCTIONS OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT YEAR AS WELL.

SO WHILE THE LETTER WAS MEANT TO BRING IN SOME PEOPLE AND POTENTIALLY ENTER INTO TAX INSTALLMENTS, I HEAR NOT TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE RESPONDED.

UM, BUT MOST OF THE WORK, 99% OF THE WORK THAT THEY'RE, THAT THIS FIRM IS DOING IS PREPARING FOR THE AUCTIONS AND PREPARING FOR ANY PROCEEDINGS THAT MAY COME FROM, UM, PEOPLE WHO ARE ATTEMPTING TO, UH, FIGHT THE FORECLOSURE.

WHEN

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DO YOU THINK WE'LL ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, SEE SOME PROGRESS ON THIS? I, I THINK WE'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS ON THIS.

AND I'M TALKING ABOUT DOLLAR WISE FOR THE TOWN.

SO THAT, THAT'S THE PURPOSE OF TB THREE TO SCHEDULE THAT AUCTION.

THAT'S WHEN YOU WILL SEE SIGNIFICANT DOLLAR AMOUNTS COMING IN.

BUT AGAIN, THIS DEALS WITH A SMALL AMOUNT OF PROPERTIES ON THIS FIRST FORECLOSURE, BECAUSE THIS IS A, HAS BEEN AN ONGOING PROCESS.

THE NEXT SET WILL BE A MUCH WIDER RANGE OF PROPERTIES.

AND WE'RE ALSO FOCUSING ON THE PROPERTIES THAT HAVE HIGHER DELINQUENCIES.

SO IF YOU OWE AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT, YOU'LL BE PUSHED, UH, EARLIER TO THE LIST AND, AND GO TO AUCTION QUICKER.

SO WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT, SAY, THE 2026 BUDGET, UH, YOU KNOW, IS THERE LIKE ANYTHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE COULD REPORT BACK TO, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION NOW, I, I DON'T AT THIS TIME, ESPECIALLY BEING AN AUCTION, WE COULD SET MINIMUM AMOUNTS, BUT WE REALLY DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH INTEREST WE'RE GONNA HAVE AT THIS TIME.

.

RIGHT.

AND KIMBERLY, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO YOU AS WE'RE PREPARING THE BUDGET? YOU KNOW, DO WE WANT, YOU KNOW, MORE INFORMATION RELATING TO THE FORECLOSURE PROCEEDINGS BETWEEN NOW AND, UH, AND OCTOBER 30TH? SHE'S NOT ON I THOUGHT SHE WAS ON, SHE WAS ON, SHE WAS ON SHE FOR THE BUDGET.

SHE'S NOT ON, YEAH, SHE'S NOT ON, SHE'S NOT ON.

WE'RE DOING A GENDER REVIEW.

SHE'S NOT ON.

OKAY.

OKAY.

BUT ALSO THE TOWN DOESN'T MAKE ANY MONEY OFF OF THESE PROPERTIES.

THERE'S ANYTHING THAT THAT SELLS FOR ABOVE WHAT'S DUE TO US.

UM, WE HAVE TO GET BACK TO THE OWNER.

OKAY.

RIGHT.

RIGHT.

THE AMOUNT IN EXCESS OF WHAT IS OWED TO THE TOWN WITH THE PENALTIES AND INTEREST IS CONSIDERED A SURPLUS.

US SUPREME COURT HAS DETERMINED THAT ALL SURPLUS MUST, UH, GO BACK TO THE OWNER LAW WENT INTO EFFECT A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO.

YEAH.

2023.

SO EVEN THOUGH THE TOWN MAY BE LOSING A LOT OF MONEY, 'CAUSE WE ALREADY PAID OUT SCHOOL TAXES AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND WE DON'T GET THAT BACK, WE DON'T GET REIMBURSED FOR THAT.

BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER PROPERTY WHERE THE SALE PRICE IS HIGHER, UH, WE CAN'T RECOUP THE MONEY WE LOST ON THE OTHER PROPERTIES.

IT'S EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY.

SO THAT'S WHAT THE NEW LAW IS.

UM, WITH CO EIGHT, THE, UH, THE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE USE OF THE TOWN COUNCIL SUNDRY LINE FOR THE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION BARBECUE, THE TOWN COUNCIL SUNDRY LINE, IT'S IN THE TOWN COUNCIL LINE.

SO IT NEEDS A BUDGET TRANSFER TO GO OUT OF IT.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHERE THE STORE IS.

OKAY.

I DIDN'T, WHAT'S IT, I HAVEN'T EVEN SEEN THAT BUDGET LINE.

YEAH, YOU PROBABLY SAW EMAILS WHERE THEY SAY, LOOK HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE IN SUNDRY.

BUT IT'S DEDICATED FOR EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION, BUT IT'S NOT ENTIRELY, BUT, BUT IT'S SPECIFICALLY THE TOWN COUNCIL.

NOT THE TOWN BOARD.

TOWN COUNCIL.

OKAY.

THERE'S LIZ, DID YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT BD ONE? SURE.

SORRY, I WAS HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.

UM, SO BD ONE IS, UM, THE REQUEST FOR RESOLUTION TO MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO THE FEE SCHEDULE.

UH, ONE IS, UM, REDUCING FOR DIRECT REPLACEMENTS OF KITCHENS AND BATHROOMS. IT'S MAKING IT A FLAT FEE, UM, VERSUS, UM, PERCENTAGE A THOUSAND BECAUSE THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS THAT'S REQUIRED FOR THAT IS, IS LIMITED.

UM, CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY IS AN INCREASE IN FEES BECAUSE WE ARE DOING MORE INSPECTIONS, UM, FOR CHANGE OF OCCUPANCY PERMITS THAN WE WERE PREVIOUSLY.

UM, SO THAT'S A WARRANTED FEE INCREASE.

THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FEE THAT WE IMPLEMENTED LAST YEAR, UM, RE REQUESTING THAT BE REMOVED BECAUSE IT'S SHOWN THAT IT'S, UH, CAN BE INCORPORATED IN THE COST OF THE ACTUAL PERMIT FEE.

UM, THERE IS STILL GOING TO BE A FEE FOR A REQUEST FOR A TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE OR AN EXTENSION OF A TEMPORARY CERTIFICATE BECAUSE THAT DOES ALSO REQUIRE ADDITIONAL INSPECTIONS.

UM, MAJORITY OF THE FEES ARE STAYING, UH, THE SAME, THEY'RE NOT NEEDED TO BE INCREASED.

DEMOLITION, WE ARE BRINGING DOWN, UH, TO $10 PER THOUSAND.

ELECTRICAL IS A BIG INCREASE.

UM, AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS BECAUSE WE'RE CHANGING, UM, THE METHOD OF INSPECTIONS.

WE HAVE PUT IN A, TO THE COUNTY A NEW POSITION FOR DIRECTOR OF ELECTRICAL OPERATIONS.

THAT IS GOING TO BE A JOINT POSITION BETWEEN TWO DEPARTMENTS.

THAT'S GONNA BE BETWEEN DPW AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT WILL, UM, THAT POSITION WILL

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BE DOING ELECTRICAL INSPECTIONS.

SO THAT WARRANTS THE INCREASE.

AND IT'S THE SAME COST, UM, THAT A PLUMBING PERMIT IS, UM, WHICH FUNDS OUR PLUMBING INSPECTOR.

UH, WE'VE ALSO ADDED ANOTHER FEE, UM, FOR PRE-APPLICATION PLAN REVIEW, WHICH IS AN OPTIONAL FEE THAT, UM, LARGE SCALE APPLICANTS CAN PAY TO HAVE A PRE-REVIEW, UM, PRIOR TO ACTUALLY FORMALLY SUBMITTING.

SOMETIMES WE ARE DOING, UM, ACTUALLY A LOT OF TIMES WE'RE DOING REVIEWS BEFORE APPLICANTS ARE EVEN COMING IN THE DOOR.

UM, AND IT TAKES TIME, UM, AWAY FROM OUR PLANS EXAMINER AND IT'S, THERE'S NO COST TO IT.

UM, OUR PLAN EXAMINER, UM, IS EXCELLENT.

HE'S HAS WORKED IN THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA PREVIOUSLY.

UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY USED TO DO AND THEY FOUND IT VERY SUCCESSFUL TO STREAMLINE APPLICATIONS.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE LOOKING TO IMPLEMENT THAT HERE.

UM, THE SUBSTITUTE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FEE IS ALSO REQUESTED INCREASE BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF RESEARCH, UM, THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED.

AND THE ADDITIONAL, UM, OH, I'M SORRY, I'VE GOT A LITTLE BACK FEED THERE.

UM, ADDITIONAL, UM, WORK THAT GOES INTO THE ISSUANCE OF SUB COS UH, THE TENTS FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

WE ARE REMOVING THAT FEE BECAUSE IT IS NO LONGER REQUIRED BY NEW YORK STATE TO OBTAIN A PERMIT FOR ANYTHING UNDER 200 SQUARE FEET.

SO IT'S NOT A NECESSARY INSPECTION.

SO WE'RE REMOVING THAT IN ITS ENTIRETY.

WHAT ABOUT TENS MORE THAN, WHAT ABOUT TENS MORE THAN 200 SQUARE FEET.

A, ANY, ANYTHING MORE THAN 200 SQUARE FEET WILL STILL REQUIRE A PERMIT UNDER THE FIRE CODE THAT DOES REQUIRE INSPECTION.

SO THAT FEE WILL REMAIN AS AN OPERATING PERMIT FOR A TENT.

AND WHAT ABOUT, UH, ILLEGAL, UM, LEGALIZING ILLEGAL WORK? LEGALIZING FEES? WE KEPT THE TRIPLE THE FEE.

UM, THAT WAS A PREVIOUS THAT WE DID LAST YEAR.

WE INCREASED THAT FROM DOUBLE TO TRIPLE.

UM, WE HAVE SEEN A LOT OF LEGALIZATIONS COME IN RECENTLY THIS YEAR.

UM, I, DURING THEIR BUDGET HEARING, I WILL GIVE A BREAKDOWN OF THE COMPARISON FROM PREVIOUS YEARS.

UM, BUT YEAH, THAT, THAT HAS, UM, NOT HINDERED PEOPLE FROM FILING FOR THE LEGALIZATIONS, BUT I THINK THEY THINK TWICE BEFORE DOING WORK WITHOUT PERMITS WHEN THEY SEE HOW MUCH IT COULD COST.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND DD TWO, YOU WANNA TALK ABOUT THE ICC? 'CAUSE PREVIOUSLY YOU HAD US TAKE US OFF TO TAKE IT OFF THE AGENDA.

YEAH.

SO, UM, ONE MINUTE VERSION.

WE, THE ONE, THE VERY CONDENSED VERSION IS, UH, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS COMMUNITY, UH, DPW, UM, PLANNING AND ZONING, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT ARE COLLECTIVELY GOING TO BE MOVING INTO ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS OF PLANS AND APPLICATIONS TO STREAMLINE THE PROCESS.

BD TWO IS GOING TO IMPLEMENT THAT AMENDMENT TO ITY, WHICH IS OUR PERMITTING SOFTWARE IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR, UM, PLANS, EXAMINATION TO HAPPEN A LOT FASTER, UM, ALONG WITH A COORDINATED REVIEW BETWEEN ALL THE DEPARTMENTS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, WE'VE REALLY BEEN WORKING ON.

AND WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THIS DONE.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE? OH, YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR, UH, LET'S SEE.

UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, UH, TOWN COUNCIL RECEIVED ALL OF THE, UH, STREET CLOSURES, UM, FOR YOUR CALENDARS.

THANK YOU.

OH, LET ME JUST ASK A QUESTION.

I CON, UH, THERE WERE, AT THE LAST MEETING, THERE WERE I THINK TWO, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THAT WANTED TO HAVE HALLOWEEN, UH, UH, STREET CLOSURES.

BUT, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAID, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH BARRIERS, UM, WE COULDN'T DO IT.

I CONTACTED THE VILLAGE OF IRVINGTON.

THEY SAID THEY WOULD GIVE US THE BARRIERS, UM, AND, UH, OR LEND IT TO US BECAUSE THEY, THEY NEEDED, I SORT OF FEEL, YOU KNOW, THE MORE I THINK ABOUT IT, I'M SORT OF UPSET BECAUSE A LOT OF KIDS REALLY LOOK FORWARD TO HALLOWEEN AND THESE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, CLOSURES OF STREETS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT IS REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S SAFE, SAFER FOR KIDS TO, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, TO PARTICIPATE.

THE PARENTS LOVE IT.

THE KIDS LOVE IT.

WHY CAN'T WE, UH, REACH OUT TO, UH, ALL THE VILLAGES? SEE IF WE COULD, UH, BORROW, UM, BORROW THE BAR, YOU KNOW, THE BARRICADES, AND THEN LET EVERYBODY WHO WANTS TO HAVE A HALLOWEEN, UM, EVENT, UH, DO IT AS THEY'VE DONE IN THE PAST.

THE ONLY THING, BUT THE VILLAGES HAVE THEIR OWN.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN.

CAN WE, WE HAVE, THEY HAVE EXTRAS.

SURE.

SO THEN, SO CAN WE HAVE THE TOWN ATTORNEY PLEASE ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE I SPOKE WITH MR. UH, WITH, UH, SERGEANT FONTANELS REGARDING THIS AND CHIEF

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POWELL REGARDING WHY THAT IS PROBLEMATIC OKAY.

TO GET, UH, BARRIERS FROM OTHER VILLAGES.

OKAY.

SO FIRST I WOULD SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THAT, YOU SHOULD HAVE AN IMA AND YOU SHOULD HAVE AN AGREEMENT AND AN INDEMNIFICATION CLAUSE.

MM-HMM .

UM, BUT I THINK THE CONCERN IS TRANSPORTING CORRECT BE BARRIERS, BUT WE, BUT WE, WE SHARE EQUIPMENT WITH THE VILLAGES ALL THE TIME.

WE, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR, FOR YEARS.

AND TO ME, THIS IS SORT OF BEING, YOU KNOW, TO BE HONEST, I FEEL IT'S LIKE LAZINESS.

SO THE THING IS, I NO POLICE DEPARTMENT.

NO, I, YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S NO REASON WHY WE HAVE TO CANCEL A HALLOWEEN EVENT IN THE COMMUNITY WHEN THERE'S NEIGHBORING COMMUNITIES THAT ARE GIVING US, UM, ARE WILLING TO GIVE US BARRICADES ALL WE HAVE TO.

WHY DON'T WE LET THE TOWN ATTORNEY EXPLAIN MORE ABOUT THAT? I, I, I JUST EXPLAINED WHAT I KNOW AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST.

SO, SO I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO HEAR FROM THE POLICE.

THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR THIS.

OKAY.

WELL THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK TO THE POLICE.

YEAH.

WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? WE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD, AND I BELIEVE SERGEANT FONTELLA HAS ALREADY ADDRESSED THIS, BUT MAYBE YOU CAN REACH OUT TO HIM AGAIN AND HE CAN EXPLAIN TO YOU AGAIN.

I, I JUST SORT OF FEEL, I FEEL THAT IF WE, BUT, BUT I THINK THAT REASON YOU SHOULD SAY THAT TO TELL REASON EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WANTS TO HAVE A HALLOWEEN EVENT, TO HAVE A HALLOWEEN EVENT, CAN WE GET AN IMA? NO, BUT YOU NEED TO TALK TO THE SERGEANT FONTELLA RIGHT BEFORE WE START.

WHY DON'T WE TALK TO HIM? HIM, WELL, YOU HAVE TO DO IS PUT A STUPID BARRICADE.

MY MY QUESTION IS A STUPID BAR, A STUPID BARRICADE REALLY DOES NOT PROVIDE MUCH SAFETY TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE STREET.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS TOLD US THAT THEY'RE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT PUTTING UP BARRICADES ON A STREET, AND THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT IT'S SAFE.

I KNOW IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, WE HAVE LOTS OF BARRICADES THAT ARE UP, AND I'VE BEEN OUT IN THE STREET AND YOU CAN BARELY MAKE IT DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE THERE ARE SO MANY PEOPLE, AND YOU KNOW WHAT PEOPLE DO? THEY MOVE THE BARRICADES AND DRIVE TO THEIR DRIVEWAY.

MM-HMM .

NOW, IF SOMEBODY GETS HURT, WE'VE CLOSED THE STREET.

BUT WHO'S MONITORING THE BARRICADES NOW? WE DON'T REALLY HAVE, WHEN WE GIVE OUT THESE BARRICADES, AN INDEMNIFICATION AGREEMENT WITH THE COMMUNITY THAT'S ASKING FOR IT TO SAY, SOMEBODY'S GOTTA STAY WITH THOSE BARRICADES AND EVEN BETTER PUT A CAR BEHIND THE BARRICADES SO THEY, THEY'LL SEE THE BARRICADES.

THEY WON'T HIT YOUR CAR, BUT AT LEAST THE CHILDREN WILL, THEY'LL BE SAFE.

THEY'RE NOT JUST STUPID BARRICADES.

STUPID.

AND WHAT ARE WE DO'S? I'M JUST SAYING THAT, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR EXCUSES TO SAY NO WHEN BASICALLY THERE'S A LOT.

WE DON'T HAVE THE BARRICADES.

WE HAVE HOW OTHER COMMUNITY WHO'S GONNA PICK UP THE BARRICADE? THE TOWN SHOULD PICK UP THE BARRICADES.

WHO IN THE TOWN IS GONNA DO IT? THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAID THAT THEY ARE STRESSED WITH THE NUMBER OF OF EVENTS ALREADY.

WE, LET ME SAY SOMETHING.

I BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD BE ON HALLOWEEN.

WE USED TO HAVE, UH, FOR MANY YEARS I WENT WITH THE POLICE CHIEF.

WE WENT, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF EVENTS.

WE ALWAYS, UH, HAD EXTRA POLICE, UH, IN DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, UH, PROVIDING, UM, YOU KNOW, PROVIDING, UH, CHILDREN WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A, AND THERE ARE MORE EVENTS NOW.

WHEN, WHEN I FIRST EVENTS, WHEN I FIRST WAS ELECTED, WE HAD A LOT OF CRIMES ON DURING HALLOWEEN.

YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UH, WE HAD A LOT OF ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF PROBLEMS. JOHN KAKA, WHO WAS CHIEF AT THAT TIME, PUT MORE RESOURCES INTO HALLOWEEN.

WE MADE IT SAFE.

THE THEATER YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER HAS A FANTASTIC HALLOWEEN EVENT ON, UH, RIGHT BEFORE HALLOWEEN.

IT WAS GREAT.

OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS, UH, A DIFFERENT NIGHT, WE SHOULD BE DOING MORE, MORE COMMUNITY NEIGHBORHOOD EVENTS TO, UH, THAT KIDS COULD ENJOY.

NO ONE IS DISAGREEING WITH THAT.

IT'S A MATTER OF SAFETY AND THE SUPPLY SAFE.

IT COULD BE SAFE.

WE ORDERED AND OBTAINED MORE BARRICADES, BUT EVEN SO, THERE'S NOT ENOUGH.

AND THEN IT GETS DOWN TO THERE'S ONLY TWO, THERE'S ONLY TWO EVENTS THAT BASICALLY, UH, THEY SAID WE HAD TO CANCEL.

AND I REACHED OUT TO THE VILLAGE OF IRVINGTON.

I THINK ONE WAS IN IRV IN EAST IRVINGTON.

AND BASICALLY THEY SAID THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO, UH, UH, BUT YOU AREN'T LISTENING TO THE REASONS, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T AGREE WITH IT.

YOU DON'T AGREE WITH SAFETY? I DON'T AGREE.

WELL, THIS, BUT THIS, THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE ISSUE.

OKAY.

SAFETY IS THE ISSUE.

WELL, AND, AND MAYBE WHAT WE SHOULD THINK ABOUT, AND IT MIGHT NOT, IT MIGHT BE NOT BE POSSIBLE FOR THIS YEAR TO MAKE SOME, UM, SOME HAVE CERTAIN CRITERIA FOR HAVING THE EVENTS, SUCH AS FRANCIS MENTIONED, HAVING A CAR NEXT TO THE BARRICADE.

I AGREE WITH THAT.

SO WE SHOULD PUT THAT IN PLACE.

BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, BUT THAT WON'T WORK IN THE SHORT TIME.

I DON'T THINK WE CAN GET THAT TOGETHER WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.

I, I THINK THAT, SO IT'S UNFORTUNATE AND WE ALL REGRET NOT BEING ABLE TO GIVE, ACCOMMODATE ALL THESE EVENTS FOR ALL THE CHILDREN.

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BUT WHAT MAYBE SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES WOULD WELCOME CHILDREN FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES TO COME THERE TO CELEBRATE IN THAT WAY.

UH, WELL, I'M SAYING IS MY PERSONAL FEELING IS THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ENOUGH TIME, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE WHOLE TOWN.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWO EVENTS THAT WE SAID NO TO, TWO NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS THAT WE SAID NO TO.

UM, 'CAUSE OF LACK OF BARRICADES.

THE SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE, WHO'S GIVEN THE BARRICADES TO THAT ONE? THE SECOND ONE, I IF, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THEN REACH OUT TO OTHER, ALL THE COMMUNITIES AND SEE HOW MANY BARRICADES WE NEED AND SEE IF WE COULD GET THE BARRICADES.

AND THEN WE'D REACH OUT TO THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT TO PICK IT UP AND, UH, AND, YOU KNOW, PLACE IT, YOU KNOW, ON THE STREETS.

AND WE COULD SAY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS, YOU COULD HAVE YOUR, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR, YOUR EVENT.

BECAUSE HALLOWEEN IS NOT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T TIME THE DATE OF HALLOWEEN.

THE HALLOWEEN IS SCHEDULED, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, IT'S SCHEDULED ON A SPECIFIC DATE.

AND YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN HAVING THE HALLOWEEN EVENT THE FIRST WEEK IN OCTOBER.

THEY WANT IT CLOSER TO HALLOWEEN.

SO WHAT I DON'T KNOW THAT HAS TO DO WITH HER, THE CONVERSATION THAT I HAD WITH SERGEANT FONTELLA IS REGARDING, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TAKING POLICE OFFICERS AWAY FROM THEIR TOUR TO PICK UP A BARRICADE? NO, IT COULD BE THE HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT COULD DO IT BECAUSE IT SO PUBLIC WORKS COULD DO WHAT THEY HAVE.

SO NOW YOU'RE OFFERING OVERTIME FOR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS TO TAKE BACK THESE BARRICADES TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THAT WE DON'T HAVE, OR WE DON'T HAVE AN, UH, I-M-U-I-M-A-I-M-A WITH, WELL, WE COULD GET AN IMA QUICKLY, YOU KNOW, JOE'S OFFICE COULD PREPARE THE IMA THERE, THERE'S ONLY TWO, TWO NEIGHBOR CAN, CAN WE LET THE FINISH? CAN I MAKE, I CAN MAKE A PHONE.

IS THE SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD.

YOU KEEP SAYING THE SECOND I KNOW ABOUT EAST IRVINGTON, YOU SAID THERE WERE TWO I REMEMBER AT THE LAST MEETING.

AND THE VILLAGE OF IRVINGTON IS WILLING TO GIVE BARRICADES EAST IRVINGTON.

RIGHT.

SO THE CIVIC ASSOCIATION COULD GO GET THEM, I ASSUME, AND THEN RETURN THEM.

'CAUSE THEY WANT 'EM THE NEXT DAY.

RIGHT.

I SAW THE EMAIL.

THEY WANT 'EM THE NEXT DAY.

SO SOMEBODY HAS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR DOING THAT.

WE WOULD, THE TOWN, I'M SUGGESTING THAT THE TOWN, OUR TOWN STAFF IS TELLING US THAT THEY ARE SO STRESSED WITH A NUMBER OF, WE ARE GIVING OUT DOZENS AND DOZENS AND DOZENS OF BARRICADES.

SOME ARE VERY BIG EVENTS.

MAYBE, MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HAVING THESE BIG EVENTS, THEY NEED TO CUT 'EM BACK SO THERE'S MORE BARRICADES FOR OTHER AREAS.

NO, WELL LOOK, I'M JUST ASKING IF, I DON'T THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.

I'M JUST ASKING.

I THINK WE COULD WORK THIS OUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN WORK IT OUT THIS YEAR.

I THINK WE CAN WORK IT OUT THIS YEAR.

THEY ORDERED MORE BARRICADES.

WELL, BUT YOU GOT THE EMAIL ABOUT TWO OR THREE WEEKS AGO WHAT HAD BEEN DONE ABOUT IT.

ALL I'M SAYING IS WELL, I'M, AND I WROTE TO THE VILLAGE AND BASICALLY THEY SAID, AND THEY SAID YES.

AND WHAT HAVE YOU DONE SINCE? WELL, I CONTACTED, YOU KNOW, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SO, SO FAR WE HAVEN'T BEEN SUCCESSFUL, BUT THERE'S STILL TIME BETWEEN NOW AND HALLOWEEN.

SO ALL I'M ASKING WE NEED IS SOMEBODY TO GO LET ASK A QUESTION, ADE.

IT'S NOT BRING THEM BACK.

IT'S NOT A FIGHT.

ALL I'M ASKING, AND THERE'S ALSO, ALL I'M ASKING THE BOARD IS, WOULD YOU GIVE ME THE AUTHORITY TO, UM, UH, TO REACH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD FIND OUT WHICH WHO WE'VE DENIED IT, AND I COULD REACH OUT, WE COULD REACH OUT TO, YOU KNOW, THOSE OTHER VILLAGES.

FIND OUT HOW MANY BARRICADES, UH, WE HAVE.

ALL I COULD SPEAK TO RICH.

I COULD, I COULD SEE IF WE COULD, BUT WE HAVE TO DO MORE.

THAT'S WHAT WE KNOW.

WE KNOW.

WE HAVE NO MORE.

THE DPW HAS GIVEN UP THEIR BARRICADES, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT'S GIVEN UP THEIR BARRICADES.

ALL I'M ASKING, ALL I'M ASKING IS YOU WANT TO GO TELL THE VILLAGES, WOULD YOU GIVE ME THE AUTHORITY TO, YOU KNOW, ME AND KRISTA COULD REACH OUT TO NEIGHBORING, YOU KNOW, VILLAGES.

WE COULD WORK WITH YOU.

WE COULD FIND OUT THAT TWO NEIGHBORHOODS.

FIRST YOU HAVE TO CLEAR IT WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THANK YOU.

THERE IS A, A CONSIDERATION HERE.

AND THEN THERE'S A CONTRADICTORY CONSIDERATION.

ONE OF THE THINGS YOU TALKED ABOUT IS SAFETY AT THESE VARIOUS EVENTS, WHICH REQUIRE SOME ADDITIONAL POLICE PRESENCE OR DRIVE BY TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING'S RIGHT IN A, IN A MORE CONSISTENT WAY.

BUT YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT CRIME GOES UP IN ON HALLOWEEN AND IF CRIME GOES UP, THEN YOU'RE DIVERTING THE POLICE TO MORE EVENTS THAN PATROLLING THE ENTIRETY OF THE TOWN IN CASE THERE IS AN ISSUE.

NO, THE WE'RE REALLY BEHIND, WE'RE VERY MUCH BEHIND THE TWO EVENTS THAT WERE, I APOLOGIZE, COUNCILMAN, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON.

THE TWO EVENTS WERE SPECIFICALLY FOR HALLOWEEN.

WE WERE MAKING ACCOMMODATIONS FOR THOSE WHO CHOSE TO THOSE WHO WERE DENIED.

THEY MOVED IT TO ANOTHER DAY.

MM-HMM .

THEY SAID, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

THAT WE'RE, WE IT'S AVAILABLE ON OTHER DAY, THE PREVIOUS WEEKEND, EVEN EARLIER IN THE WEEK.

BUT ARE THEY ON THE AGENDA? UH, YEAH.

YES.

THEY, THEY HAVE ALREADY RECEIVED

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THEIR, UM, APPROVAL LAST TIME.

OKAY.

WE DID THAT.

SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? SO WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? WE'RE TALKING, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE TWO OUTSTANDING, CORRECT.

OH, OKAY.

WHO WERE DENIED.

AND WHERE IS THE SECOND ONE? THAT'S WHAT I THINK IT'S IN EDGEMONT ACTUALLY.

IT'S IN EDGEMONT.

YES IT IS.

BUT THEY RESCHEDULED.

NO, THEY DIDN'T.

OH, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO RESCHEDULE.

IT'S TOO, THERE WERE THREE AND THEN SO ONE WAS ABLE TO RESCHEDULE.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

MM-HMM .

'CAUSE EDGEMONT IS ANOTHER BIG ONE, BUT A LOT OF STREET CLOSINGS.

RIGHT.

AND THEY GOT THAT ONE IN.

SO BASICALLY YOU HAVE EAST IRVINGTON AND EDGEMONT THAT WE SAID NO TO.

YES.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION ONLY AND THE OTHER, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A STREET CLOSING, IT'S NOT THE VILLAGES THAT DO THE STREET CLOSINGS IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.

IT HAS TO BE US WHO DOES THE STREET CLOSING.

BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE A WAY THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL APPROVE IT, BECAUSE THAT'S ON EVERY STREET CLOSING IS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT APPROVES IT, WHICH IS WHY WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

AND WE, WHICH IS WHY WE PUT IT ON THE AGENDA.

SO WE HAVE TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT APPROVES IT.

I CAN'T SUPPORT ANYTHING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT DOESN'T SUPPORT.

NO, BUT LET ME ASK A QUESTION.

DO I HAVE THE, WOULD THE BOARD HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS BY AS SOON AS YOU GET APPROVAL FROM AS SOON AS YOU GET APPROVAL FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT? YES.

YES.

SOON AS, NO, NO, NO.

THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

LET'S MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE APPROVAL BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

MM-HMM.

UH, CHIEF POWELL, SERGEANT FONTELLA, UM, THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD FEELS.

THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AS WELL.

AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THE IRONMAN.

WE BASICALLY, UH, SEND ME AGAIN.

CAN WE, CAN WE MAKE A MOTION? CAN WE MAKE THE MOTION? OKAY.

UM, I MAKE THE MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDI INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE IN VARIOUS MATTERS.

SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.

A.

AYE.