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WAIT FOR THE, WAIT.TODAY IS, UM, OCTOBER, UH, 14TH AT 5 49.
AND, UH, WE'RE HAVING A PRE-BUDGET, DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET, UM, UH, MEETING.
UH, THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS TO GIVE US THEIR WISHLIST.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS WILL GET EVERYTHING THAT THEY ASK FOR, UM, BUT THEY COULD HIGHLIGHT WHY THEY WANT, UM, FUNDS IN THE BUDGET.
AND THEN BY OCTOBER 30TH, BY LAW, I HAVE TO PROPOSE A BUDGET.
AND THEN THE TOWN BOARD HAS, UH, TILL DECEMBER 20TH TO APPROVE A FINAL, YOU KNOW, BUDGET, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE WHAT I WANT OR WHAT THE DEPARTMENT WANTS.
SO, UH, FIRST, UM, WE'RE GONNA HEAR FROM OUR RECEIVER OF TAXES AND, UM, I ONLY SEE ONE PAGE
WE ARE HERE FOR THE TAXPAYERS, BUT MY BUDGET WENT UP 3.2%.
AND IT'S BASED ON, IS THAT SALARY OVERTIME? THAT'S INCLUDING THE SALARY, THE OVERTIME IT WENT UP, UM, JUST A LITTLE, AND IT WAS PRETTY MUCH SALARIES.
THE MAIN INCREASE WAS IN MY STATIONARY AND PRINTING MY ENVELOPES AND PAPER.
FOR THE PRINTING OF THE BILLS.
THIS, EVERYTHING ELSE PRETTY MUCH STAYED THE SAME.
ALL SUPPLIES WENT FROM 2 95 TO THOUSAND.
WELL, THAT'S REVISED, THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT WAS LEFT IN THE, UM, THAT'S WHAT WAS LEFT IN THERE FOR 25.
THAT'S WHAT WAS IN THERE FOR 25 FOR 2025.
AND WHAT'S LEFT IN THERE IS 2 95, I BELIEVE.
I THINK IT, IT'S NOT, DOESN'T READ THAT WAY.
YOUR ACTUALS, THAT'S THE CONSENT, RIGHT? ACTUALS.
SO WE DO HAVE THE CONTROLLER ON.
I CAN GIVE HER AND HAVE HER, COME ON.
YOUR ACTUAL IN 2024, WHICH IS WHAT WE SPENT, WAS 5 36.
KIMBERLY, ARE YOU ABLE TO RE TO RESPOND? SHE BE ON MUTE? UM, NO, I ALREADY DID.
SO HER A MESSAGE, SHE'S SAYING I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING BECAUSE OUR MIC IS OFF.
OH, IS IT MAIN ON THE TURN? SUPPOSED TO BE OFF.
SO IT APPEARS SO IT APPEARS, APPEARS SO THAT'S NOT, SO THAT'S NOT, SOMEBODY HAS A ZOOM ON NOW.
HOW ABOUT THAT? NOW I'M, I'VE MUTED.
SO IS THAT, YOU CAN'T MUTE IT? I CAN MUTE.
OH, MAYBE, MAYBE YOU DO, BUT THEY JUST USING THE OTHER MIC.
TERRANCE TERRANCE, HE'S NOT HERE.
SAM, SAM, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO, I THINK WE WERE MUTE IT WHILE COULD BE ON THE, UH, LAPTOP.
YES, I CAN HEAR YOU THROUGH THE MICROPHONE.
ARE YOU, IS THE AUDIO GOING THROUGH THE MICS OR? OUR RATINGS ARE GOING DOWNHILL QUICKLY.
BROADCAST THROUGH THE MICROPHONE.
SO I THINK THIS SHOULD PROBABLY STAY MUTED OR NO.
I THINK YOU DID THIS, THIS BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WANT PEOPLE TO WATCH YOU HEARING DON'T LOOK AT MY, THE COMPTROLLER'S NOT HEARING US.
WE JUST HAVE SOME TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES THERE.
WE GO'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE VOICE.
TURN YOUR, THIS SEEMS LIKE, THIS SEEMS LIKE IT'S, YOU GUYS ARE ALL ECHOING.
SHE SHOULD HEAR YOU THROUGH THE MICS NOW.
KIMBERLY MUTE DOES NOT NEED THE MIC.
SO WE JUST GETTING SOME CLARIFICATION ON BENITA'S LINE FOR THE OFFICE SUPPLIES.
UM, RIGHT NOW IT SAYS FOR 2025 IS 295 AND THE 2026 BUDGET IS SAYING A THOUSAND.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE.
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UH, IT WAS REDUCED.SO THE, SO THE LINE THAT SAYS 2025 REVISED BUDGET, IS THAT WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT, WHAT IS LEFT AT THIS POINT? WHAT, WHAT DOES THAT COLUMN MEAN? 2025 REVISED BUDGET.
THAT'S HER, WHAT HER BUDGET WAS REVISED TO AFTER THE ADOPTED.
SO SOMEWHERE THERE WAS SOME KIND OF, UH, BOARD RESOLUTION OR MONEY WAS MOVED TO ANOTHER LINE.
AND SO THAT WAS THE NEW, UH, BUDGET AMOUNT FOR 2025.
SO EITHER SHE MOVED FUNDS TO COVER ANOTHER LINE, OR IF IT WENT DOWN, SHE MUST HAVE MOVED, MOVED MONEY.
BUT THE ACTUAL, SO SOMEWHERE THERE WAS A BUDGET TRANSFER AND IT TOOK MONEY OUT OF THAT LINE AND PUT IT INTO ANOTHER BUDGET LINE IF IT WENT DOWN.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT 20, 25 YEAR TO DATE ACTUALS, IT SAYS THERE'S ZERO MONEY SPENT.
THAT'S JUST FOR ACCRUED TIME, THAT BUDGET.
SO SHE TOOK THE MONEY AND SPENT IT SOMEPLACE ELSE.
BUT LOOK AT THE STATIONARY AND PRINTING NUMBERS.
I'M, I'M DOING OFFICE SUPPLIES.
YEAH, BUT MAYBE THAT'S WHERE THE BUDGET TRANSFER AWAY.
I DID HAVE THE MORE MONEY INTO STATIONARY AND PRINTING, SO IT'S POSSIBLE.
I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY, BUT I COULD HAVE MOVED IT FROM OFFICE SUPPLIES.
SO KIMBERLY, WHAT'S THE EXPLANATION FOR 2025 YEAR TO DATE? ACTUALS BEING 202,000 AND CHANGE AND THE REVISED BUDGET BEING 320.
AND FOR 2026 IT'S PROPOSED TO BE 330.
I, UH, OPEN ISN'T THE ACTUAL WHAT HAS BEEN SPENT OR WHAT'S LEFT IN THAT BUDGET, THE ACTUAL 20 HOLD ON COLUMN I WAS LOOKING AT.
SO THE FIRST COLUMN IS THE TENTATIVE BUDGET, WHICH IS, UH, COMBINATION OF THE DEPARTMENTAL REQUEST AND CHANGES THAT WE, YOU GUYS MADE.
THE SECOND COLUMN, THE 20 20, 20 25 REVISED IS WHERE THE BUDGET LANDED AT YEAR END FOR 2025, WHERE IT'S LANDING, WHICH IS THE RESULT OF, UM, ANY TYPE OF BUDGET AMENDMENTS DURING THE YEAR WHERE MONEY COULD HAVE BEEN, UM, UTILIZED IN ANOTHER LINE.
IT COULD HAVE BEEN A BUDGET TRANSFER.
THE 2025 YEAR TO DATE ACTUAL IS WHAT THE SYSTEM IS PULLING AS RECORDED YEAR TO DATE AS OF THE DAY THAT I PULLED THE BUDGET DOCUMENT.
SO WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE FOR US TO HAVE THE 2025 ADOPTED BUDGET AMOUNT SO WE COULD SEE WHETHER OR NOT A LINE IS OVERSPENT, UNDERSPENT? I DON'T.
I I, AND THEN WE, I CAN'T DETERMINE WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE.
AND THEN WE COULD JUDGE WHAT THE DIFFERENTIAL IS.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE ADOPTED A BUDGET.
WE ADOPTED A BUDGET, AND WE EXPECT PEOPLE TO STAY TO THAT BUDGET.
BUT WE DON'T HAVE, AT LEAST ON THIS SHEET, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK TO THE ACTUAL BOOK TO SEE WHAT IS THE 2025 ADOPTED AMOUNT AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE YEAR TO DATE ACTUALS ARE.
MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE MORE INFORMATIVE THAN 2024.
WELL, BECAUSE, AGREE, THE BOARD APPROVED THAT BECAUSE THE BOARD APPROVED THE TRANSFERS.
UM, I THOUGHT IT MORE IMPORTANT TO SEE WHERE THE BUDGET LANDED THAN WHERE THE BUDGET WAS.
NOW THIS IS ALL HELPFUL, BUT WE, WE, WE COULD PUT ANOTHER COLUMN.
WE WOULD JUST, THAT OTHER COLUMN WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL TO SEE WHAT WAS BUDGETED, WHAT WE, WHAT WE RIGHT.
AND YOU CAN THANK ME LATER IF IT'S JUST SUGGESTING IT
IT'S, I'LL HAVE TO BE RUN ALL THE BUDGET, BUT I CAN DO THAT.
IF, UM, YES, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT MINE, MINE HAS, I HID ALL OF THE ZEROS THAT CAME OUT OF THE EXEMPT.
SO AT THE TOP, ALL I DID WAS 26, TENTATIVE 25, PROJECTED 25 ORIGINAL 25 REVISED, AND 25 ACTUALS.
SO THAT, I THINK COPY WHAT WE ADOPTED.
WE'LL GET TO YOURS WHEN WE GET, OKAY.
NO, NO, I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S, WE JUST, WE JUST FORMAT, WE JUST HIT HID SOME,
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HIT SOME COLUMNS THAT THAT'S ALL.BUT I JUST WANT, SO I CAN, SO I'LL ADD THAT COLUMN THERE.
BUDGET REVIEW AND I'LL ALSO UPDATE THESE
YEAH, BECAUSE OTHERWISE THERE'S NO WAY TO UNDERSTAND THIS HUGE DISCREPANCY IN THE VERY FIRST LINE OF SALARIES OF THE 2025 REVISED BUDGET AND THE 2025 YEAR DATE ACTUALS.
WHEN IT MAKE SENSE ALSO, AND I CAN, THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THERE IS ANY MONEY MOVED IN THE SALARY LINE.
SO, UM, VENITA, YOU'D HAVE TO PROVIDE AN EXPLANATION AS TO WHAT YOUR SALARY YEAH, THAT'S, THIS IS JUST YEAR TO DATE.
SO WE STILL HAVE A FEW MONTHS LEFT.
THAT'S WHY WE NEED, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE 2020, YOU LOOK AT THE 2024 ACTUALS, IT WAS AROUND 2 35 AND THAT WAS NOW THE 2025.
ACTUAL IS 2 0 2, BUT OKAY, WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE REST OF THE YEAR AGO, SO IT'S GONNA GO UP TO SOMEWHERE AROUND 2 35.
WHAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND IS HOW DOES IT GET TO 320? CORRECT.
BUT JUMPING FROM THE ACTUAL IN 24, THAT'S TO THE BUDGETED AMOUNT.
THE ACTUAL 24 POINT 35 EMPLOYEE.
POSITION THAT EMPLOYEE MAKES A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
SO IS IT TWO? NO, IT WAS A PART-TIME.
I HAVE NO, IT WAS A PART-TIME.
I MEAN, IT'S A FULL-TIME POSITION.
IT'S A FULLTIME FULLTIME POSITION.
I NEED TO SAY THE SALARY, BECAUSE THIS IS A FULL-TIME POSITION.
NO, BUT THE DIFFERENCE IS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND SHE'S SAYING IT'S BECAUSE OF AN EMPLOYEE, BUT THE EMPLOYEE'S NOT MAKING HUNDRED THOUSAND.
ACTUALLY, THERE WERE TWO EMPLOYEES.
'CAUSE I HAD THE, DURING THE 24 YEAR, MY PART-TIME EMPLOYEE WAS HIRED FULL-TIME.
THEN I CREATED, I MEAN, WE DIDN'T CREATE, THERE'S A POSITION THAT'S NOT FILLED YET.
THAT POSITION IS ALSO IN HERE.
SO I WAS SHORT STILL SHORT STAFFED, BUT YES, THAT MAKES SENSE.
BUT LET ME, UH, SUGGEST SOMETHING TO KIMBERLY, BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THE BUDGETS, YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY HAVE SAID THAT, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE NO IN MY PROPOSED BUDGET, NO, NO, UH, INCREASES OVER THE COST OF THE 2.9% FOR THE CSEA FOR EVERYBODY.
SO THAT'S THE WAY MY BUDGET'S GONNA READ.
BUT THE THING IS, WHEN WE LOOK AT MANY DEPARTMENT BUDGETS, UM, IT'S SAYS SALARIES AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THIS INDIVIDUAL SALARIES ARE.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALL LUMPED IN, IN SOME DEPARTMENTS.
AND I'M WONDERING WHEN WE COME UP WITH A FINAL BUDGET, IF WE COULD HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT NOT, NOT, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ONLY YOU MM-HMM
BUT IT WOULD MAKE IT, IT'S MORE TRANSPARENT AND IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE WHAT, UH, INDIVIDUALS ARE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GETTING.
SO I'M WONDERING IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD DO.
WELL, THERE IS A SALARY SCHEDULE IN THE BUDGET.
BUT IT'S VERY, IT'S, IT'S LIKE HIDDEN IN THE BUDGET.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? I SORT OF FEEL THAT WELL, YOU CAN, YOU CAN, IT'S A DIFFERENT SECTION.
IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT SECTION.
IT'S, IT'S IN A DIFFERENT SECTION.
YOU JUST GOTTA GO TO THAT SECTION.
BUT I'M WONDERING IF, IF YOU, WHAT IF IN YOUR LETTER YOU CAN MAYBE SAY IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN LOOKING UP INTO, I, I DUNNO.
NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT, I'M WONDERING IF THERE'S A WAY WHERE WHEN WE COME UP WITH A FINAL BUDGET, WE HAVE A COUPLE, YOU KNOW, TWO WEEKS LEFT.
IF WE COULD BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, INSTEAD OF JUST SAYING SALARIES, WE COULD JUST, YOU KNOW, WHEN PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT BUDGETS IN DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS, THIS WAY PEOPLE COULD SAY, OH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE'S, YOU KNOW, A CONTROLLER OR A DEPUTY CONTROLLER OR A COMMISSIONER, A DEPUTY COMMISSIONER ASSISTANT TO THIS PERSON.
AND THIS WAY WE COULD EASE EASILY, UM, DETERMINE WHAT EVERYBODY'S SALARIES ARE RATHER THAN JUST SAYING SALARIES THAT ARE GENERAL FOR EVERYBODY.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD'VE LIKED.
THOSE POSITIONS ARE OUTLINED IN A DIFFERENT PART OF THE BUDGET.
NO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WHEN, WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT THE BUDGET, WHEN MOST PEOPLE LOOK AT THE BUDGET, THEY LOOK AT THE DEPARTMENT BUDGET, THE SPECIFIC DEPARTMENTS.
SO THEY WOULDN'T HAVE TO CROSS REFERENCE.
I, I BELIEVE TO GO TO THE BACK OF THE BOOK WHERE NO, BUT IT'S EASIER NOT TO CROSS REFERENCE IF IT'S WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING, IF YOU'RE JUST IN ONE.
BUT I THINK IT COMPLICATES THINGS MORE WITH EVERY DEPARTMENT.
IF YOU PUT DOWN EACH INDIVIDUAL SALARY RIGHT.
IN THE BUDGET BOOK IT, IT JUST, RIGHT IN THE MAIN PART RATHER THAN APPENDICES ALL.
WHAT ABOUT JUST FOCUSING ON THE MAJOR DEPARTMENT? YOU KNOW, THE WHY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST, I THINK, I THINK I I'M HEARING THAT THERE'S AN IMPRESSION THAT THE SALARIES ARE NOT IN THE BUDGET BOOK.
THE THE SALARIES ARE IN A BUDGET BOOK.
THEY'RE JUST IN A DIFFERENT SECTION.
SO YOU HAVE ALL YOUR, ALL YOUR FINANCIALS IN ONE SECTION,
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AND THEN WHEN YOU WANNA LOOK BACK AT EVERYONE'S SALARIES, IT'S IN A DIFFERENT SECTION OF THE, OF THE, OF THE, UH, BUDGET.SO I'M NOT SURE YOU, I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE BACK THE BOOK YOU KEEP SAYING, KEEP SAYING THIS EXHIBIT A THANK YOU.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE'S CLEAR.
SALARIES ARE LISTED IN THE BUDGET AND HAS BEEN LISTED IN THE BUDGET.
THEY'RE JUST IN SEC IN APPENDIX A EXHIBIT A, EXHIBIT A AND THAT THERE IS A, UM, TABLE OF CONTENTS.
AND THE TABLE OF CONTENT INDICATES THAT EXHIBIT A, IF YOU NEED TO EX EX, IF IT DOESN'T SAY EXHIBIT A, IT IS INDIVIDUAL SALARIES, YOU CAN ADD THAT, YOU CAN TURN RIGHT TO HIM.
WELL, YOU KNOW, WE, I'LL SPEAK TO KIMBERLY ABOUT, UM, NOT, EXCUSE ME ONE MINUTE, NOT TO JUMP AHEAD.
IT CAN GIVE THEIR PRESENTATION, BUT WE HAVE PUT IN THE BUDGET THIS YEAR SOFTWARE FOR CLEAR GOVERNMENT, WHICH WILL READ THEM THE BUDGET SYSTEM AND THE PRESENTATION OF THE BUDGET.
SO, UM, I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE USING THE SCHEDULES THAT WE HAVE NOW IN PLACE AND THEN TAKE A LOOK AT THE MODULES FOR NEXT YEAR.
MAYBE YOU CAN MAKE A PRESENTATION OF WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE TO US AT SOME POINT.
OTHERWISE, TAX OFFICE, EVERYONE JUST RECEIVED A 2.95.
THAT WAS VERY COMPLICATED FOR SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE.
OKAY, NEXT, UH, THE LIBRARY, PLEASE.
NOW THE LIBRARY BUDGET IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE, UH, THE LIBRARY, THEY, AFTER WE GIVE THE TOTAL APPROPRIATION, THE LIBRARY BOARD HAS THE ABILITY TO, UH, MOVE THINGS AROUND WITHOUT GETTING TOWN BOARD APPROVAL.
SO THE, THE LINE ITEMS AND THE LIBRARY YEAH.
THE LINE ITEMS AND THE LIBRARY BUDGET, UM, COULD BE MODIFIED BY THE LIBRARY BOARD UNDER STATE LAW.
SO, UM, SO, SO WHEN WE ARE GOING THROUGH EACH SPECIFIC LINE, DOESN'T REALLY, YOU KNOW, WELL WE STICK TO THIS BUDGET, SO RIGHT.
BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO, BASICALLY WE STICK TO THIS BED BUDGET.
IF THERE'S ANY MAJOR MOVES, YOU GUYS ACTUALLY END UP HAVING TO APPROVE IT IN THE END ANYWAY, SO IT REALLY IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
UM, SO I'M GONNA GO THROUGH IT.
AND THERE IS ONE LINE THAT I DID ASK FOR MORE THAN YOU NOTICE, UM, WHICH IS THE PART-TIME BUDGET, BECAUSE I AM LOOKING TO OPEN A THIRD NIGHT A WEEK.
I'M LOOKING TO OPEN FROM MONDAY NIGHTS FROM FIVE TO EIGHT 30, JUST EXTENDING THOSE HOURS.
UM, AND I'M LOOKING TO DO IT IN THE PART-TIME BUDGET LINE.
WE ALREADY HAVE A PLAN TO HIRE PART-TIME LIBRARIANS, PART-TIME, SOME PART-TIME CLERKS TO NOT MESS WITH THE CONTRACT, NOT MESS WITH ANYBODY'S SCHEDULE, AND TO MOVE FORWARD.
UM, THERE IS A LITTLE EXTRA MONEY IN THERE ALSO FOR A CARETAKER, A DPW CARETAKER, A SEASONAL EMPLOYEE DON'T IN PART-TIME, IN THE PART-TIME LINE.
AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE THIS CAN GET CUT OUT.
AND I, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT DPW, WE REALLY DO NEED ANOTHER PERSON TO HELP WITH PUNCH LIST ITEMS AT THE LIBRARY.
UM, THE CLEANERS RIGHT NOW CAN SPEND PRETTY MUCH ALL DAY IN THE BATHROOMS CLEANING THOSE BATHROOMS. AND THEY'RE NOT GETTING TO OTHER THINGS.
CARETAKER THINGS THAT NEED TO GET DONE, LIKE PAINTING AND, UM, WEEDING AND WAXING FLOORS.
I MEAN, THERE ARE JUST SO MANY THINGS.
I MEAN, TOILETS ARE CONSTANTLY BEING FIXED.
BUT I COULD REALLY USE SOMEONE THAT'S PART-TIME, BUT FULL-TIME TO, NOT FULL-TIME, BUT SEASONAL TO DO A PUNCH LIST.
SO THE, HOW MUCH OF THE 70,000 WOULD BE FOR 20,000? 20,000.
SO IF YOU WERE TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T WANNA DO THAT.
DON'T GIVE IT AWAY BEFORE YOU
I'M WELL I'M, BUT THERE'S AN INCREASE IN, THERE'S AN INCREASE IN THE PART-TIME HOURS PER THE CONTRACT, AND THEN YES, IT'S ABOUT 25 TO 30,000 FOR THE JUST ONE NIGHT.
AND THE LIBRARY BOARD HAS APPROVED THIS ALREADY.
SO JUST LETTING YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS WHERE THE BULK OF WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS HERE.
SO IF YOU GUYS WANNA LOOK AT THE DPWA LITTLE DIFFERENTLY, I TOTALLY GET THAT.
AND THEN THAT CAN BE, I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA, YOU'RE RIGHT, I'D LIKE TO HAVE IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M LEADING IT UP TO YOU GUYS.
WELL, I THINK YOU SHOULD EXPLAIN, UM, THAT THE LIBRARY IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC, WHAT KIND OF USAGE YOU GET DAILY AND WHY IT BECOMES NECESSARY FOR NOT ONLY CLEANLINESS AND, UH, BUT FOR SAFETY.
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WELL, SAFETY AND CLEANLINESS IN THAT SENSE.WE'VE HAD A FEW INCIDENCES THIS PAST YEAR WHERE DPW HAS HAD TO COME INTO HAZMAT SUITS TO CLEAN UP.
UM, THE BATHROOMS ARE HEAVILY USED ON TUESDAY AFTERNOONS.
THIS SUMMER WE HAD, WE WERE CLOCKING A THOUSAND PEOPLE ON TUESDAY AFTER, ON TUESDAYS A DAY, LIKE EACH WEEK ON TUESDAYS.
WEDNESDAY'S OUR SECOND BUSIEST DAY.
AND THEN MONDAY IS NEXT, WHICH IS THE NIGHT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE OPEN THOSE EXTRA HOURS.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE HOURS AGAIN? HOLD ON.
ANY IDEA WHY TUESDAY'S THE BUSIEST DAY? UH, BASICALLY 'CAUSE WE'RE OPEN LATER.
SO TUESDAY AND WEDNESDAY ARE THE DAYS WE'RE OPEN LATE.
BUT I CAN TRACK BY, UM, WIFI USAGE.
UM, WHAT ARE THE BUSIEST TIMES AND WHAT ARE THE BUSIEST DAYS? YEAH.
SO WHAT DAY, AGAIN, MONDAY NIGHT WE'RE LOOKING TO OPEN FROM FIVE TO EIGHT 30.
HAVE, UH, YOU REACHED OUT AND SEEN IF WE COULD GET ANY GRANTS FOR THAT INSTEAD? NOT FOR, NOT FOR, FOR NOT FOR, UM, ACTUAL SALARY GRANTS CAN COME FOR LIKE THE ROOF, WHICH WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IN A FEW MINUTES, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
BUT, BUT WHEN YOU'RE DOING THE OPERATIONS GRANTS DON'T WORK LIKE THAT.
WE CAN GET GRANTS FOR MORE TECHNOLOGY AND OTHER THINGS OF THAT NATURE, WHICH WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING ON RIGHT NOW, AND WHICH WE DO TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
BUT I GOTTA TELL YOU, FEDERALLY SPEAKING, I THINK WE ALL KNOW WHERE WE ARE WHEN IT COMES TO, UM, YOU KNOW, MONEY BEING COMING TO THE STATE FOR CULTURAL, UH, AND MUSEUMS AND LIBRARIES.
UM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT WE CAN GET GRANTS TO SUPPLEMENT EVERYTHING HERE, BUT THERE ARE NO GRANTS THAT YOU KNOW OF IN ANY CASE, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD DEFER SOME MONIES AWAY FROM ANY ONE OF THESE LINES RIGHT? IN IN THAT WAY? NO.
YOU CAN GET A GRANT TO DO A, A PROGRAM, AN OVERALL PROGRAM, AND YOU CAN GET MONEY TO HIRE SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND TEACH CLASSES.
SO THE GRANT THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW, WE'RE LOOKING TO GET ALL NEW TECHNOLOGY, ALL NEW LAPTOPS, AND WE'RE LOOKING TO, UM, GET LIKE TEACHERS TO, UM, PRESENT IN BOTH SPANISH AND ENGLISH, UM, BASIC, UH, TECHNOLOGY AND BASIC, UH, SOFTWARE APPLICATIONS.
BUT TECHNICALLY SPEAKING TO COVER LIBRARY HOURS TO, TO BE OPEN, THAT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT.
UM, SO I'M LOOKING FOR THAT'S THE BIGGEST LINE.
UM, I THINK THE OTHER, CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? SORRY.
COMPARE TO SAY OTHER LIBRARIES IN THE WESTCHESTER LIBRARY SYSTEM, YOU KNOW, HOW OFTEN ARE WE OPEN IN THE EVENING COMPARED TO OTHER COMMUNITIES? WE ARE OPEN THE MINIMUM AMOUNT THE STATE REQUIRES, AND WE ARE A LARGE LIBRARY, AND WE SHOULD BE OPEN MORE THAN THAT.
A LOT OF LIBRARIES ARE OPEN FOUR NIGHTS A WEEK, AND I'M ONLY LOOKING FOR THREE AND THEY'RE OPEN TILL NINE O'CLOCK.
UM, SO THIS IS JUST ONE MORE NIGHT.
SO WE ARE GENERALLY OPEN 56 HOURS A WEEK, AND THAT IS FIF I THINK IT'S 54 IS THE MINIMUM STATE STANDARD OF BEING OPEN TO, TO KEEP OUR CHARTER IN THE WAY WE HAVE IT.
UM, THIS LIBRARY, AS I JUST MENTIONED, A THOUSAND PEOPLE ON A TUESDAY AND DURING THE SUMMER, THAT'S NOT A SMALL AMOUNT OF PEOPLE.
YOU KNOW, THIS IS A HEAVILY USED LIBRARY.
IT'S HEAVILY USED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TOO.
NOT JUST UNINCORPORATED, BUT ARDSLEY, IRVINGTON, TARRYTOWN, THOSE FOLKS USE US HEAVILY AS WELL.
AND THEY SEE THAT LI THIS LIBRARY AS THEIRS AS WELL.
LIKE, THEY DON'T TEND TO ALWAYS KNOW THAT THEY'RE, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT LIBRARY OR WE'RE NOT ALL BRANCHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND IT'S A LOT OF EXPLAINING THAT I DO WHEN I TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT TAXES AND HOW THEIR TAXES ARE BEING USED.
UM, BUT BASICALLY SPEAKING, WE ARE DEFINITELY A BUSY LIBRARY BECAUSE OF THE PARKING.
WE DO HAVE FREE PARKING, WHICH IS VERY NICE.
WHITE BLAS DOES NOT HAVE FREE PARKING
AND THEY ALSO, I GET MORE PEOPLE COMMENTING ABOUT HOW THEY, LIKE HOW WHITE PLANES PEOPLE COME AND SAY, I LIKE YOUR LIBRARY SO MUCH BETTER.
LIKE, THERE'S JUST BEEN A LOT OF THAT KIND OF, UH, CONVERSATION AND LETTERS AND THINGS THAT COME FROM, UH, PATRONS THAT LET US KNOW THAT.
UM, I THINK THEY'RE ALSO QUITE HAPPY WITH THE, UH, PROGRAMMING THAT WE PROVIDE.
SARAH BRACY WHITE JUST CAUGHT UP WITH ME IN THE PARKING LOT AND SHE GOES, OH MY GOD.
SHE GOES, WHAT WERE YOU GIVING AWAY ON SATURDAY? THERE WAS NOT A SPOT TO BE HAD.
AND SO THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, PEOPLE ARE ALWAYS COMMENTING ABOUT THAT.
AND SHE'S, I THINK SHE'S AN AUSTIN RESIDENT, SO FOR HER TO BE SAYING, YOU GUYS HAVE A GREAT LIBRARY, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING TO CELEBRATE.
I HAVE A FRIEND, UM, ONE OF MY BEST FRIEND BEST FRIENDS IS A LIBRARIAN, AND SHE DID ONE OF HER THESIS ON LIBRARIES AND SHE CHOSE GREENBURG AS THE BEST LIBRARY.
AND SHE WENT AND SHE RESEARCHED ALL THE LIBRARIES AND SHE'S ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT GREENBURG LIBRARY.
AND THAT'S THANKS TO THE STAFF
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WE HAVE AND YOU KNOW, THE AMOUNT OF PROGRAMS THAT WE PROVIDE AND YOU KNOW, ALSO THE CLEANLINESS OF THE BUILDING.YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A GREAT, UH, DPW CREW THAT REALLY DOES A GREAT JOB.
IT'S JUST, LIKE I SAID, THEY UP, IT'S HARD TO KEEP UP.
THEY DON'T GIVE GRANTS TO LIBRARIES, RIGHT? IT HAS TO COME FROM THE STATE.
IT HAS TO COME FROM THE STATE FILTERED DOWN FROM IMLS, WHICH IS THE INSTITUTE OF MUSEUM AND LIBRARY SERVICES, WHICH HAS BEEN DECIMATED, DECIMATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
SO THE STATE IS STILL HANGING ON, BUT WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS DOWN THE PIKE.
NOT TO MENTION THAT ALL OF OUR INTERLIBRARY LOAN COMES FROM THE COUNTY OF WESTCHESTER.
PLEASE, LET'S HOPE THAT STAYS, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, ABOUT THREE TO $400,000 A YEAR THAT GOES THROUGH INTERLIBRARY LOANS THAT, THAT THE, YOUR COMMUNITY'S NOT PAYING FOR.
THAT'S THE COUNTY THAT'S HELPING TO PROMOTE THAT.
SO WHEN I, WHEN I, WE LOOK AT THE, THE BUDGET THAT WE HAVE HERE AND THE, THE AMOUNTS THAT WE'RE SPENDING, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE SALARY LINES ARE, THAT'S, WE ARE SERVICE, WE'RE A SERVICE.
AND THE BOOKS, THE ELECTRONIC MEDIA IS HUGE.
I MEAN, PEOPLE LOVE OUR EBOOKS, UM, AND THEY USE THEM.
SO WE'RE HEAVILY USED THAT WAY.
SO THOSE ARE THE, THAT'S JUST PRETTY MUCH THE, THE BIGGEST AREA.
SO I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OTHER AREAS.
THE EBOOKS, I'M SORRY, I, I HAD, I JUST CIRCLED SOME SORT OF THINGS THAT STOOD OUT.
SO ELECTRIC EXPENSE, IS THAT OH YEAH.
WE, WE BUDGETED 140,000 MM-HMM
AND I'M OUT OF MONEY NOW, SO THAT MEANS THAT'S IT.
AND THEY'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT BECAUSE THE STATE HAS ALLOWED THEM TO GO TO, TO HIKE THAT PRICE.
SO WE ARE JUST CAPTIVE AUDIENCES TO THAT.
THAT'S, I THINK IT'S MORE THAN 3% IS RIGHT.
AND, AND WE, WE JUST, UM, KIMBERLY GOT IN TOUCH WITH US THIS WEEK AND SHE'S LIKE, YOU'RE 600 BUCKS SHORT IN YOUR, IN YOUR BILL.
AND SO WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING, WE, WE'VE, UH, UH, MY NEXT BOARD MEETING, THERE'S GONNA BE A RESOLUTION TO TAKE 50,000 FROM THE FUND BALANCE TO COVER THE REST OF THIS YEAR.
SO I'M NOW PUT ANOTHER 50,000 IN NEXT YEAR.
AND I HOPE IT, I HOPE IT COVERS IT.
HOW MUCH IS IT WE'RE OPENING UP ANOTHER NIGHT.
HOW MUCH? I, I'M NOT, I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT AMOUNT.
I THINK KIMBERLY'S STILL WORKING ON THAT.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S A GOOD AMOUNT AT THE MOMENT.
IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN COVER THIS EASILY, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T KEEP DIPPING INTO IT IN THAT REGARD.
IT HAS TO COME FROM THE OPERATING BUDGET STRAIGHT OFF.
UM, KIMBERLY, DO YOU HAVE, I'M SORRY, I DON'T KNOW THE FUND BALANCE TALLIES, UH, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME.
I HAVE TO PULL THE DRAFT FINANCIALS FOR 24.
SO DO YOU WANT ME TO PULL THEM
SO COUNCILMAN SHANE JUST MENTIONED IF YOU'RE GONNA BE OPEN ANOTHER NIGHT, ISN'T THAT GOING TO ADD TO YOUR ELECTRIC COSTS AND HEATING ALSO? THOSE THINGS ARE ON, I MEAN, THERE'S SOMEONE CLEANING THE BUILDING UNTIL EIGHT 30 AT NIGHT.
SO YEAH, THE LIGHTS WILL BE ON, BUT THE HEAT'S GONNA STILL BE, IT'S, THE HEAT'S STILL GONNA BE ON IF FOR TWO, FOR THREE HOURS.
I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE.
I'VE ALSO ALREADY TOLD THE STAFF, IF YOU'RE NOT IN A ROOM, PLEASE MAKE SURE THE LIGHTS ARE OFF.
AND I ALSO THINK THAT THE HVAC, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A, A PROCESS.
THERE'S MAINTENANCE THAT HAVE TO, HAS TO GET DONE IN THE HVAC, AND THE HVAC SYSTEM HAS BEEN RECOMMENDED TO BE REPLACED.
THAT COULD BE DRAWING SOME POWER IF IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING TO ITS FULLEST ABILITY, THAT COULD BE DRAWING POWER.
THAT IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING TO ITS OPTIMUM.
SO YOU'RE BUMPING IT UP, WHICH THEN.
SO I HAVE A FEELING THAT IF THAT'S ADDRESSED, THE MAINTENANCE AND THEN THE REPLACEMENT OF THAT, THAT THAT SHOULD ALSO HELP, YOU KNOW, TAKE CARE OR HELP SOME OF THAT.
UM, COST CAPITAL, UM, THE STATE RETIREMENT NUMBER IS QUITE A BIT HIGHER.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT A LINE I HAVE CONTROL OVER.
THAT'S, THAT'S
WE CAN DISTRIBUTE THAT SCHEDULE.
THE ALLEGATION WELL, IS THAT BECAUSE OF MORE RETIREES? I MEAN, WHAT WOULD, WHY WOULD IT BE MORE IMPORTANT? NO, THAT'S THE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION TO STATE RETIREMENT FUND.
AND SO WE GET, YOU KNOW, ESTIMATED INCREASES THAT COME AND WE, YOU KNOW, WE GET A STATEMENT OF THAT AND WE USE THAT TO CALCULATE THE FOLLOWING YEAR.
SO, UM, OR, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE A PROJECTION SO I CAN DISTRIBUTE THE SCHEDULE.
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HAD ANOTHER QUESTION.UH, I, I REMEMBER YOU MENTIONED THAT WE DISCONTINUED LIBRARY FINES.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S BEING DONE? UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OVER, UH, THE COUNTY AND, UM, IF SOMEBODY TAKES OUT A BOOK AND THEY KEEP THE BOOK, THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET FINED.
THEY GET FINED FOR DAMAGES AND FOR LOST ITEMS. SO, SO THE FINES ARE JUST WAIVED FOR, UM, JUST FOR LATENESS.
I, AND THAT'S ABOUT THREE, YOU SAID? IT'S, UH, ABOUT 3000, WHICH WE STILL PROBABLY COLLECT.
WE COLLECT ABOUT THAT MUCH BECAUSE WE ARE STILL COLLECTING ON BOOKS THAT ARE DAMAGED AND BOOKS THAT ARE NOT RETURNED.
BUT AGAIN, THOSE ARE JUST TO OFFSET THE COST OF THE BOOK BEING LOST.
IS THERE ANY REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, FROM A, YOU KNOW, FISCAL, YOU KNOW, UH, FISCAL CONSERVATIVE APPROACH, IS THERE ANY RATIONALE FOR NOT FI UH, FINDING PEOPLE FOR, UM, FOR, YOU KNOW, BEING LATE IN THEIR, IN THEIR PAYMENTS? BECAUSE I'M, I'M SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY, TO ME, IT'S $3,000 THAT WE COULD USE FOR A PROGRAM, PERHAPS TRUE.
UM, IT'S ACTUALLY STUDIES SHOW THAT THE PEOPLE THAT GET HURT THE MOST ARE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT, UM, TAKE A BOOK.
AND THEN THEY END UP NOT COMING BACK AND USING THE LIBRARY AGAIN EVER AGAIN BECAUSE THEY HAVE INCURRED FINES AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO RETURN TO THE LIBRARY.
SO BY, BY UNDOING THAT OR LETTING THAT GO A LITTLE BIT, IT MEANS THAT PEOPLE ARE WELCOMED BACK INTO THE LIBRARY.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WANT.
WE WANT PEOPLE TO REALLY EXPERIENCE THAT.
AND WE ALSO WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE PEOPLE THAT NEED THE LIBRARY THE MOST AREN'T PENALIZED BY THESE, BY THESE SMALL AMOUNTS OF, OF THIS SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
AND THE OTHER PIECE OF IT IS THAT I, WE DO HAVE A LOT OF GENEROUS FOLKS THAT DO, THEY DONATE TO THE LIBRARY? MM-HMM
LIKE WE DO GET A LOT OF DONATIONS, MOSTLY THROUGH THE FRIENDS AND THROUGH THE, UM, THE GUILD THAT ACTUALLY, I MEAN, SOMEBODY TODAY WAS HAPPY WITH, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE JUST LIKE, WOW, YOU GUYS DO SUCH A WONDERFUL JOB.
HERE'S AN EXTRA $20 KIND OF THING.
AND THE $20 GOES INTO THAT TILL FOR PROGRAMMING AND EXTRA BOOKS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO WE DO FIND THAT PEOPLE WILL BE GENEROUS.
SO IT COULD BE, IT'S LIKE A GESTURE THAT COULD RESULT IN MORE MONEY FOR YOU.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, WE'RE JUST, WE'RE WE'RE, WE'VE TAKEN THOSE BARRIERS AWAY.
AND THE BARRIERS TO PEOPLE THAT ESPECIALLY CAN'T AFFORD, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, IT'S, IT'S ONLY A SMALL AMOUNT OF MONEY.
IT COULD BE 25 CENTS FOR A FINE, BUT THE IDEA IS, IS THAT IT, WE WANT THE BOOKS BACK.
THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING.
DO YOU THINK THE BOOKS BACK AT, YOU KNOW, MUCH LATER BECAUSE THERE'S NO FINES? SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES NOT.
YOU KNOW, AND SOME OF THE BOOKS THAT ARE UPSTAIRS ON THE TOP SHELF, I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE NEW BOOKS.
'CAUSE THE NEW BOOKS CAN BE VERY POPULAR, BUT THE BOOKS UPSTAIRS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT BEING TAKEN OUT AS FREQUENTLY.
SO IF SOMEBODY HAS IT A LITTLE BIT LONGER, IT'S REALLY, IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.
UH, THE LIBRARY'S ENDING FUND BALANCE IS 1.9 MILLION.
YOU GO, WHAT WAS IT LIKE A YEAR AGO? YOU KNOW, HAS IT INCREASED, DECREASED? I THINK IT WAS ABOUT THE SAME LAST YEAR.
UH, IT, IT WENT DOWN SLIGHTLY.
KIMBERLY, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE MEDICAL INSURANCE GOING FROM 907,000 TO 818? WHAT MEDICAL INSURANCE IS THIS? UH, HIT THE BUDGET BACK UP.
AND THE DENTAL INSURANCE WENT DOWN SLIGHTLY TOO.
THOSE SEE THE 907,812 REVISED BUDGET FOR 2025 AND FOR 2026.
BUT IT WENT DOWN EVEN FARTHER FROM 20 24, 928 AND CHANGE, THEN THE ACTUALS WAS FIVE SOMETHING.
MAYBE THAT WE'RE SO HEALTHY THAT THE INSURANCE COMPANIES, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT IT'S AN ESTIMATE.
IT MIGHT BE, UM, BASED ON WHERE WE'RE GONNA LAND IN 2025, I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THAT.
SO WHAT SERVICES ARE THERE FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA? WHO'S GONNA BE PAYING THIS? UH, VERSUS THE PEOPLE THAT
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ARE NOT IN UNINCORPORATED AREA, YOU KNOW, OTHER CITIES, WHATEVER THAT USE THE LIBRARY.THE BIGGEST OR THE MUSEUM PASSES AND, UM, ALL OF OUR STREAMING TECHNOLOGY, UM, IN OTHER WORDS, THE MUSEUM PASSES ARE AVAILABLE TO UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG AND NOT THE VILLAGES ONLY.
SO THIS IS JUST UNINCORPORATED.
THEY HAVE MUSEUM PASSES, ALL THE STREAMING SERVICES.
I ASSUME IT'S NOT JUST THE VILLAGES, RIGHT? IT'S WHITE PLAINS.
THE UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG TAXPAYER GETS THESE ITEMS ABOVE AND BEYOND ALL OF THE OTHER ITEMS. UM, THEY ALSO, WE ALSO HAVE LENDING TECHNOLOGY.
YOU CAN CHECK OUT HOTSPOTS, YOU CAN CHECK OUT ROKUS FIRE STICKS, YOU CAN CHECK OUT LAPTOPS, YOU CAN CHECK OUT IPADS.
WE HAVE BLOOD PRESSURE MACHINES YOU CAN CHECK OUT.
UM, WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS CALLED THE LIBRARY OF THINGS, AND WE'RE ONLY CREATING MORE.
YOU CAN ALSO CHECK OUT MICROSOFT 365.
SO THESE THINGS ARE VERY, UM, SPECIFIC AND ALSO TO GREEN, LIKE I SAID TO THE GREENBERG TECH, GREENBERG PAYER TAXPAYER.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, LIBRARIES ARE OPEN TO EVERYBODY.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE, THE BENEFIT OF, OF BEING A PART OF THE CONSORTIA.
IT DOES KEEP COSTS DOWN THAT I DON'T HAVE TO BUY 12 COPIES OF THE SECRET OF SECRETS, WHICH IS PROBABLY THE, ONE OF THE HOTTEST TITLES RIGHT NOW.
UM, SO, BUT THERE SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THE TAXPAYER, LIKE I SAID, THE GREENBERG FOLKS HAVE THIS ADVANTAGE, UM, OF THESE ITEMS THAT THEY CAN CHECK OUT AND THEY ARE VERY POPULAR ITEMS. BUT, BUT THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE, LIKE IF THERE'S A LECTURE OR IF THERE'S A CHILDREN'S PROGRAM, UH, IF RESIDENTS LIVE IN THE VILLAGES OR IN OTHER COMMUNITIES, THEY STILL COULD GO, UH, YES.
AND A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED, RIGHT? CORRECT.
YEAH, WE DON'T, WE DON'T STOP ANYBODY FROM COMING IN.
WE DO ASK FOR ZIP CODE SO WE CAN GET A SENSE OF WHO'S KIND OF IN OUR SERVICE AREA OR COMING TO THESE PROGRAMS. UM, WE HAVE TOMORROW NIGHT WE HAVE THE LISTENING CIRCLE.
OH, GINA, YOU'RE DOING THE LISTENING CIRCLES.
THERE'S 10 PEOPLE SIGNED UP AND THEY'RE ALL UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG.
SO WE HAD TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY WERE UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ACTUAL SPECIFICATION OF THE PROGRAM.
UM, WOULD IT MAKE SENSE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE, AND THIS IS SORT OF A FOLLOW UP TO FRANCIS'S, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS.
WOULD IT MAKE SENSE AT SOME POINT TO HAVE LIKE, SAY ALL THE VILLAGES IN THE TOWN WITHIN LIKE ONE LIBRARY, GREATER LIBRARY SYSTEM, WHERE BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROGRAM, YOU KNOW, THIS WAY THERE COULD BE MORE COORDINATION IN TERMS OF WHEN THE LIBRARIES ARE OPEN IN, IN THE EVENING, YOU KNOW, THIS WAY EVERY DAY THERE COULD BE A LIBRARY OPEN IN THE EVENING, AND UM, AND THIS WAY EVERYBODY WOULD BE PAYING FOR ALL THE ADDITIONAL SERVICES.
OR DO YOU THINK IT'S BETTER TO KEEP THE LIBRARY SEPARATE? UM, I, I THINK BACK IN THE 1960S WHEN THEY CREATED THIS AS A SPECIAL DISTRICT, BECAUSE TECHNICALLY THIS LIBRARY IS A SPECIAL DISTRICT, I THINK THAT WAS THE PLAN WAS TO, WE WERE THE FIRST SPECIAL DISTRICT, I THINK IN NEW YORK STATE.
AND I THINK UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE HEAD, YOU KNOW, THE HUB.
AND THEN THESE OTHER LIBRARIES WERE SUPPOSED TO BE LIKE BRANCHES ALL APART THE SAME.
BUT IT'S VERY HARD TO GET FOLKS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE, THEY IDENTIFY WITH, WITH THOSE COMMUNITY THINGS.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, LIBRARY IS, IS SOMETHING THAT'S ALMOST PROPRIETARY IN A SENSE THAT I DON'T THINK IT, IT WOULD TAKE A LOT OF COORDINATION TO GET ALL OF THOSE UNDER ONE HAT.
UM, IT'S DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE, BUT IT WOULD NEED A LOT OF, A LOT OF AGREEMENT FROM ALL SEE YEAH.
A LOT OF AGREEMENT FROM ALL OF THOSE VILLAGES.
DO ALL THE LIBRARIES OFFER THE FREE MUSEUM PASSES OR THE VILLAGE LIBRARIES? I DON'T THINK ARDSLEY DOES, WHICH IS WHY WE GET A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM ELMSFORD FOLKS.
'CAUSE ELMSFORD HAS TO RELY ON ARDSLEY BECAUSE OF THE AGREEMENT.
AND, AND THE, THE, THE, WE ARE ON THE RIGHT ON THE BORDER OF ELMSFORD.
SO THE, THE FOLKS THAT ARE RIGHT BEHIND US, I THINK THEY'RE IN THE APEX, I THINK IT'S CALLED, UM, ARE ACTUALLY ELMSFORD PATRONS.
AND SO WHEN THEY COME DOWN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE NOT A PATRON OF YOUR LIBRARY.
AND I'M LIKE, WELL, AND THEN I HAVE TO GO THROUGH AN EXPLANATION OF WHY ELMSFORD CHOSE TO GO.
AND AGAIN, THAT WAS VERY MUCH PRE ME.
I, I DON'T REMEMBER THE STORY.
I GUESS FRANCIS, I THINK, WELL, THERE'S ONLY 61 YEARS LEFT OF THAT CONTRACT.
DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT CONTRACT IS ACTUALLY, I DON'T THINK THAT'S, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT.
I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK INTO WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S FEASIBLE.
I MEAN, IF THAT'S REALLY YOU SEND IT TO ME.
YEAH, I'VE ACTUALLY TALKED TO, UM, THIS LAWYER THAT'S ABOUT, UM, FOR THE STATE.
LIKE SHE DOES LAW FOR LIBRARIES IN THE STATE, AND
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I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT COULD BE CONTESTED ON SOME LEVEL.BUT IF THOSE FOLKS ARE HAPPY WITH THEIR, WITH ARDSLEY, THEN THEY'RE HAPPY WITH LEY.
BUT I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE LIBRARY AND THEY DIDN'T LIVE THERE WHEN THOSE DECISIONS WERE MADE.
AND THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A VOICE IN THAT AT THE TIME.
SO YEAH, THERE COULD BE DEFINITELY WORK THERE.
AND WE, WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.
I THINK WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT, BUT, UM, IT'S, IT'S SOMETHING TO DEFINITELY LOOK INTO.
BUT AT THIS TIME, I'M JUST TRYING TO GET
AND I ALSO WANNA ALSO THE CAPITAL BUDGET TOO.
THE CAPITAL BUDGET, WHICH I DON'T HAVE, IF YOU SEE THE CAPITAL BUDGET DOESN'T SHOW ANYTHING FOR THE LIBRARY.
UM, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING TO DO SOMETHING NEXT YEAR.
UM, DPW ASKED US TO, TO ROLL IT ALL TOGETHER.
UM, SO THE ROOF IS DEFINITELY SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO GET, UH, REPLACED.
THE ROOF IS A 10 YEAR ROOF AND THE BUILDING IS NOW COMING UP ON 20 YEARS, WELL, NOT QUITE 10, 20 YEARS, BUT WHEN THEY STARTED BUILDING IT, IT WAS 20 YEARS.
AND, UM, I'M GONNA TRY TO APPLY FOR GRANTS NEXT YEAR FOR THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS SAY YES TO SOME OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET, UH, EXPENSES IN 2026 THERE AS WELL.
YOU PUT IN 8,000, UH, FOR EACH YEAR FOR COPY MACHINES.
IS THAT GETTING NEW ONES OR IS THAT SERVICE CONTRACTS? IT'S JUST SERVICE.
BUT WHY WOULDN'T IT BE UNDER THE SERVICE CONTRACTS? UM, IT WAS SEPARATED OUT.
WE COULD PUT IT UNDER THERE AND WRAP IT ALL TOGETHER.
BUT THESE ARE SOME LINES THAT HAVE BEEN BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR A WHILE, SO WE JUST, WE JUST KEEP 'EM SEPARATED OUT.
YOU CAN REALLY SEE KIND OF VERY CLEARLY WHERE WE SPEND THAT MONEY.
YOU KNOW, THE SERVICE CONTRACTS ARE REALLY FOR OUR, UM, OUR APPS AND THINGS.
LIKE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A, A, A CONTENT MANAGEMENT SYSTEM THAT'S RUNNING OUR WEBSITE.
THOSE ARE THE SERVICE CONTRACTS.
BUT THE COPIERS, WERE ALWAYS SEPARATE.
AND WE HAVE ONE, TWO, WE HAVE I THINK ABOUT FIVE COPY MACHINES.
SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A FEW OF THEM IN THE BUILDING.
WANNA BRING THAT A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU? POINTED TO YOU.
SO, UH, THE, THE FIRST QUESTION IS THE PART-TIME WENT FROM 47 5 TO 65.
EDIE, TELL PEOPLE WHO YOU ARE.
I'M THE ASSESSOR IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, AND I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT MY BUDGET.
I WOULD LIKE TO START, DOES THE ASSESSOR HAVE A NAME? SHE SAID, SAID IT MCCARTHY.
EDIE MCCARTHY, THE ONE THAT RAISES THEIR RATES.
I'M GONNA START AT THE BOTTOM OF MY BUDGET AND WORK MY WAY BACK UP TO ANSWER SUPERVISOR FINDER'S QUESTION.
UM, SO EVEN, EVEN THE CONTROLLER LAUGHED AT THAT ONE.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A YEAR OF EXPLAINING.
SO THE BUDGET FROM 2025 TO 2026 IS ACTUALLY ONLY GOING UP $30,000.
AND IT, THAT DOESN'T, THAT INCLUDES THE INCREASE IN THE SALARIES FOR STEPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE WERE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES THIS YEAR THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UH, TALK TO YOU ABOUT.
SO THE PART-TIME WHERE YOU SEE, UH, IT WENT FROM 47,500 TO 65,000.
WE ARE SHORT STAFF AT THE MOMENT.
WE HAD A HUGE, UNFORTUNATELY TURNOVER THIS YEAR.
UM, WE HAVE THREE NEW EMPLOYEES WHO ARE STILL DOWN ONE.
HOPEFULLY BY NOVEMBER WE'LL GET THE CIVIL SERVICE LIST AND FIGURE OUT WHERE WE'RE GOING FROM THERE.
SO THE PART-TIME, UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE TWO PART-TIMERS ON STAFF.
ONE IS OUR GIS MANAGER AND THE OTHER ONE IS HELPING US THROUGH, UM, OUR 1200 SMALL CLAIMS PETITIONS THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PREPARE FOR COURT.
SO WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT.
THAT WAS THE REASON FOR THE INCREASE, UH, IN THE PART-TIME LINE.
UH, THERE WERE AND THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT FAIR, REASONABLY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN THE SALARY LINE.
I WOULD LIKE TO GO IN, I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ON
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THE SALARIES OF SPECIFIC EMPLOYEES, BUT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION IF THAT'S POSSIBLE.OUR, OUR ADVERTISING DECREASED OVER BY $22,000.
UM, THAT IS BECAUSE IT WAS, IT'S COVERED UNDER ESSENTIAL PROCESSING PERIODICAL NEWSPAPERS.
THAT IS AN ANNUAL INCREASE FOR LOW HU.
UM, THE PRIMARY REASON FOR THE SUBSCRIPTION IS WE GET A LOT OF REAL ESTATE INFORMATION AND WE ALSO LOOK AT THE OBITUARIES EVERY DAY.
SO HENCE PEOPLE GETTING EXEMPTIONS AND, YOU KNOW.
AND THE REASSESSMENT WENT DOWN.
UM, BY 30,000, TWO 15,000 LAST YEAR.
YOU GAVE ME ENOUGH MONEY TO HIRE SERVICES OF A CONSULTANT TO TRAIN US TO LEARN HOW TO DO THE TRENDING.
UNFORTUNATELY, I THINK I ONLY SPENT ABOUT $2,500 OF THAT MONEY BECAUSE I HAD THREE PEOPLE TURN OVER IN MY OFFICE AND THEY WERE KEY PLAYERS.
SO I, WE HAD TWO OR THREE TRAINING SESSIONS ON IT.
UM, BUT THE MONEY IS STILL AVAILABLE.
WE HAVEN'T USED IT YET AND WE'RE JUST NOT READY TO THAT'S ON HOLD TILL YOU STAFF UP AGAINST, YEAH.
SO THAT INCLUDES TYLER TECHNOLOGY SOFTWARE, UH, THREE REAL ESTATE, UH, SOFTWARE PACKAGES.
OUR MAPPING, UH, VERIZON, AND THIS IS WHAT I WANTED TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT.
THERE IS AN INCREASE THERE BECAUSE THERE IS SOFTWARE THAT'S AVAILABLE.
IT'S A ONE SOFTWARE PACKAGE, BUT IT'S A BIFURCATED SCENARIO.
AND ONE WILL HELP US SIGNIFICANTLY WITH PREPARATION FOR OUR SMALL CLAIMS AND THE, UM, PREPARING AND NEGOTIATING FOR SMALL CLAIMS. WHAT THAT WILL DO IS, RIGHT NOW THERE IS A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF DUPLICITY IN MY OFFICE AND THIS DUPLICITY OR DUPLICATION? DUPLICATION.
I SAID WE DON'T WANT DUPLICITY DIFFERENCE.
SO WHAT HAPPENS IS WE GO OUT IN THE FIELD, WE COLLECT THE INVENTORY, WE COME BACK, WE PHYSICALLY INPUT THE INVENTORY INTO THE SYSTEM.
WHEN WE PREPARE FOR COURT, SOMEBODY FILES, GRIEVANCE, SMALL CLAIMS, WE PREPARE FOR COURT, WE TAKE THE INVENTORY THAT'S ALREADY BEEN TYPED INTO OUR SYSTEM AND WE HAVE TO TYPE IT INTO ANOTHER PACKAGE.
BECAUSE THEY DON'T TALK TO EACH OTHER, THEY DON'T READ.
AND THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY OF THAT.
THE SOFTWARE PACKAGE THAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING AT, UM, WILL READ WHICH ONE, IS THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW? WELL, WE'VE ACTUALLY LOOKED AT THREE MM-HMM
WE'VE LOOKED AT TYLER TECHNOLOGIES, EXCUSE ME, WHICH IS OUR CURRENT SOFTWARE VENDOR.
AND WE'VE LOOKED AT TWO OTHERS.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO MAKE A DECISION.
THEY ALL ARE HOVERING AROUND THE SAME PRICE, UM, FOR THE PACKAGE AND FOR THE MAINTENANCE.
IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT SUSTAINABLE ANYMORE.
NOT WITH, NOT WITH THE AMOUNT OF FILINGS THAT WE HAVE.
THAT'S PART A, PART B OF THE PACKAGE.
IS THAT NOT CONFUSED WITH NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH A BUDGET, B BUDGET? JUST OH, NO, NO, NO, NO.
SCENARIO PART A SCENARIO, PART B SCENARIO.
THAT WAS PART A SCENARIO, PART B SCENARIO, UM, WITH THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS SOFTWARE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE TYPICALLY SEE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN FIVE AND 800 PEOPLE, UM, DURING THE TIME OF APRIL 15TH TO JUNE 1ST.
AND IT'S EVERY 10 MINUTES AND IT'S CONSTANT AND IT'S JUST CONSTANT.
SO WHAT THIS SOFTWARE PACKAGE WILL DO IS THAT WE COULD ELIMINATE THE IN PER A LOT, NOT ALL OF IT.
WE CAN ELIMINATE THE IN-PERSON, UM, MEETINGS AND WE CAN DO A LOT OF THESE CORRESPONDENCES BACK AND FORTH ONLINE THROUGH OUR PORTAL SYSTEM.
SO THERE'S MULTIPLE MUNICIPALITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY.
NOBODY IN, UH, LONG ISLAND IS, IS DOING THIS AND SO IS NEW YORK CITY.
BUT THIS IS A HUGE STEP FORWARD.
AND, UM, I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH MORE TAXPAYERS THIS WAY.
SO MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME TO YOUR OFFICE ARE SENIORS.
YOU EXPECT THEM TO BE DOING A PORTAL, WHICH IS WHY I SAID I'M NOT GOING TO ELIMINATE IT.
THERE'S AN OPTION THAT YOU CAN EITHER SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH US OR GO THROUGH THIS PORTAL.
SOMEBODY CAN FILE THEIR PAPERWORK AND THEIR QUESTIONS AND THEIR INFORMATION AT, OH, I DON'T KNOW, THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING BECAUSE THEY DON'T SLEEP.
OR YOU GET A SENIOR CITIZEN WHERE THEY WANT TO GO THROUGH THIS AND THEY DON'T KNOW HOW WE'LL HAVE THE PORTAL SET UP AT THE FRONT COUNTER AND WE CAN HELP THEM THERE, OR WE CAN SCHEDULE A MEETING.
I WOULD NEVER TURN AWAY A TAXPAYER.
SO OVER THE WEEKEND, SOMEBODY CALLED ME AND THEY SAID, I THINK WHITE.
THEY SAID, WHITE PLAINS DOESN'T DO THE REASSESSMENTS.
YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR IT'S LIKE, AND WE DO EVERY YEAR WE, YOU KNOW, WE DO IT.
AND I SAID, WELL, WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE STATE.
UH, OTHERWISE, OTHERWISE, UH, THEY WON'T,
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UH, CREDIT US FOR THE FULL VALUE ASSESSMENT.UM, ARE WE DOING MORE, UM, YOU KNOW, UPDATING THAN OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE DONE REASSESSMENT? WE ARE, WE ARE ON PAR WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, TOWN OF MAERK.
HELP ME, THERE'S ONE WHITE PLAINS DID A REASSESSMENT.
IT IS NOT WHITE PLAINS, IT IS NOT NEW ROCHELLE SCARSDALE.
IT'S WHITE PLAINS AT A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO THE ONLY MUNICIPALITIES WE ARE, WE ARE STAYING RIGHT IN LINE WITH OUR INVENTORY, WITH OUR, WITH OUR COMMUNICATIONS, WITH EVERYTHING IN COMPLIANCE WITH NEW YORK STATE AS THE OTHER REASSESSMENT MUNICIPALITIES ARE.
MOUNT PLEASANT, NO NEW ROCHELLE.
SO THOSE OTHERS ARE STILL USING EQUALIZATION RATES? YES, THEY ARE AT, OH, MOUNT PLEASANT, I BELIEVE LAST TIME I CHECKED WAS 1.2% OF MARKET HEIGHT AND WHITE PLAINS IS 2.18
AND WITH SCARSDALE, THEY STOPPED DOING IT.
YEAH, SCARSDALE STOPPED DOING IT.
SO IF PEOPLE WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, OTHER COMMUNITY, 'CAUSE PEOPLE GET A LITTLE STRESSED OUT, YOU KNOW, EVERY YEAR WHEN THEIR, AS ASSESSMENTS CHANGE, IF SOMEBODY SAYS, YOU KNOW, IF SCARSDALE DOESN'T DO IT IN WHITE, DOESN'T DO IT.
YOU KNOW, WHY ARE, WHY, UH, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE, YOU KNOW, CHANGING THE ASSESSMENTS EVERY YEAR? 'CAUSE IT'S FAIR.
NO, BUT I'M JUST ASKING BE BECAUSE, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY IT IS NOT MY DECISION.
THE REASON WHY YOU SET THAT POLICY IS BECAUSE OUR REASSESSMENT CYCLE PRIOR TO THIS WAS 60 YEARS, SIX, ZERO.
THE VALUES ON THE ASSESSMENT RULES WERE SO INEQUITABLE.
THE SYSTEMS THAT WE WERE USING WAS, WERE INTEGRATED.
AND IT WAS IMPOSSIBLE TO EXPLAIN TO A TAXPAYER WHY WE'RE ASSESSING PROPERTIES THAT, WHAT DID YOU SAY? 2.1% AND THE FACT THAT THE INVENTORY IS WRONG, AND NOT JUST RAISING PEOPLE'S ASSESSMENTS, BUT LOWERING PEOPLE'S ASSESSMENTS WHEN THEIR SALES CAME IN AND THEIR PROPERTIES WERE OVER ASSESSED.
THERE WERE SO MANY REASONS THAT THAT ASSESSOR'S OFFICES WHO DON'T DO THIS ARE HANDS ARE TIED.
WERE TIED BY POLICIES AND RULES AND REGULATIONS.
AND HERE, BECAUSE WE'RE A REASSESSMENT MUNICIPALITY, WE ARE NOT, WE GO OUT AND WE COLLECT THE DATA AND WE DID TALK TO THE TAXPAYERS.
WE SPEND INOR INORDINATE AMOUNT OF TIME EXPLAINING THE SITUATION TO TAXPAYERS.
WE HAVE A, A TON OF STUFF ON OUR WEBSITE ABOUT IT, THE EXPLANATIONS, AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT THE 99% OF THE REST OF THE COUNTRY, THEY DO THIS REASSESSMENT ON A CYCLICAL BASIS.
90% IN DETAIL, 90% OF NEW YORK STATE MUNICIPALITIES DO, UM, CYCLICAL REASSESSMENTS AS WELL.
DOWNSTATE IS WHERE WE'RE A LOT OF THIS SEEMS, YOU KNOW, IT'S INSIDE BASEBALL.
WHAT WE'RE BASICALLY DOING IS A HUNDRED PERCENT ASSESSMENT MEANS THAT ON YOUR BILL WILL BE A NUMBER THAT THE TOWN BELIEVES YOU CAN SELL YOUR HOUSE FOR.
IF YOU CAN'T SELL YOUR HOUSE FOR THAT AMOUNT, YOU SHOULD THEN COME IN AND GRIEVE YOUR TAXES.
AND IT'S EDIE MCCARTHY WHO'S HERE, WHO WILL TAKE THAT APPLICATION.
BUT IN THE, IN THE PAST, IN THE PAST, IN THE PAST, UH, I THINK MY EQUALIZATION, MY, MY HOUSE WAS LISTED AS $13,000.
WHICH IS ABSURD, RIGHT? WE ALL KNOW IT'S ABSURD.
BUT YOU APPLY AN EQUALIZATION RATE SOME NUMBER THAT THEN THAT YOU DIVIDE BY, THAT BILLS IT UP INTO SOME NUMBER THAT MAY BE WHAT YOUR HOUSE IS WORTH.
AND WE FOUND DOING THE REASSESSMENT THAT MANY OF THE PEOPLE IN THE FAIRVIEW NEIGHBORHOOD WERE SEVERELY OVER ASSESSED.
AND THEY, THERE'S NO WAY THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO SELL THE HOUSE FOR THE AMOUNT THAT THAT EQUALIZATION RATE GAVE.
SO EQUALIZATION RATES, YOU KNOW, MAY BE OKAY FOR A YEAR OR TWO, BUT EVENTUALLY BASED ON WHO'S DOING WORK WHERE THEY JUST DON'T GIVE YOU AN ACCURATE PICTURE OF WHAT YOUR HOUSE IS WORTH.
YOU MAY, BUT AGAIN, I I SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, NOT JOKINGLY AT ALL.
IF YOU DON'T THINK THAT THE AMOUNT THAT'S ON THAT, THAT ASSESSMENT BILL IS WHAT YOU CAN SELL IT FOR, THEN YOU KNOW, HEY, I SHOULD COME IN NOW.
OF COURSE, IF IT'S LESS THAN WHAT YOU THINK YOU CAN SELL IT FOR, NO ONE'S COMING IN.
RIGHT? YOU SHOULD STILL COME IN
BUT IT, IT'S TAKING US A WHILE TO, AFTER THE A HUNDRED PERCENT ASSESSMENT, TO GET THE NUMBERS CLOSER AND CLOSER TO REALITY.
AND, AND WHAT WE'RE FINDING NOW, AND YOU'RE GONNA TELL US, IS THAT MANY PEOPLE, WHEN THEY SELL THEIR HOUSE, THEY'RE GETTING MORE THAN WHAT'S ON THAT ASSESSMENT BILL.
BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE, PEOPLE ARE SPENDING PAYING MORE FOR THEIR HOUSES AND PEOPLE.
AND I GOT SOMETHING THAT IN THE MAIL
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THE OTHER DAY, AND IT SAID, THE, THE LARGEST AMOUNT THAT'S EVER PAID FOR A HOUSE IN THE GREENBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT, HERE IT IS.AND THEY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE THEY'RE ADVERTISING THEIR, THE REAL ESTATE COMPANY MM-HMM
EVERYBODY SAYS, OH WOW, THEY SOLD FOR A LOT.
BUT THAT GOES INTO COMPARABLES AND EVERYBODY'S HEALTH IS GOING TO BE ASSESSED A LITTLE BIT HIGHER THE NEXT TIME BECAUSE OF THAT.
AND THAT'S WHAT YOUR OFFICE DOES, DOESN'T IT? RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, WHEN WE START, THAT WAS ALMOST PERFECT WHEN WE STARTED, WE STARTED THE REASSESSMENT ABOUT 10, 2016.
UM, BUT BEFORE WE DID IT, UH, FAIRVIEW WAS ACTUALLY SUBSIDIZING EDGEMONT AND OTHER ERAS TOO, OTHER AREAS.
IT WASN'T JUST FAIRVIEW THAT WAS SUBSIDIZING THE HIGHER END.
AND IT WASN'T JUST EDGEMONT, IT WAS THE HIGHER END HOMES, UM, THAT WERE BEING SUBSIDIZED BECAUSE I WASN'T PERMITTED BY LAW, BY RULES, REGULATIONS, AND PROCEDURES TO KEEP UP WITH THE MARKET.
AND THAT'S WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
NOW WHEN WE LOOK AT IT, WE'RE KEEPING UP WITH THE MARKET IN EVERY SINGLE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO INSTEAD OF EVERY USE SAID 99% OF WHAT YOU SAID, COUNCILMAN SHAM WAS.
UM, EXCEPT I WOULD PREFER FOR TAXPAYERS, IF THEY HAVE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS TO COME IN AND SPEAK TO US BEFORE THEY WOULD FILE A GRIEVANCE APPLICATION.
GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
WELL, I, I TELL PEOPLE, BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE, THEY GET THESE THINGS IN THE MAIL AS NO, YES.
THEY GET THESE THINGS IN THE MAIL AND THESE COMPANIES, THEY MAY BE REPUTABLE COMPANIES, BUT MANY OF THESE COMPANIES, THEY GO BY BULK AND THEY'RE NOT GOING, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT WE FOUND THIS YEAR, PRE PRIOR YEARS, THEY DON'T EVEN FIND FILED IN TIMELY SO THAT THEY GET KNOCKED OUT WHEN THEY GO TO COURT.
UH, THE BEST THING YOU COULD DO, IT'S WHAT I ADVISE EVERYBODY, IS IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT YOUR ASSESSMENT, IN OTHER WORDS, YOU LOOK AT THAT ASSESSMENT BILL AND IT SAYS TO YOU, YOU SAY, I CAN'T SELL MY HOUSE FOR THAT AMOUNT.
YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, NOT, NOT A HUNDRED DOLLARS OR WHATEVER, BUT I, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT REALISTIC.
COME INTO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE AND THEY WILL PULL UP COMPS AND TELL YOU WHETHER OR NOT IT'S UNDER ASSESSED OR OVER ASSESSED.
AND I'VE ACTUALLY HEARD THE ASSESSOR, I'M THE LIAISON TO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
I'VE HEARD THE ASSESSOR SAY, YOU KNOW, YOU SHOULD FILE, YOU SHOULD FILE.
OR THEY WOULD TRY, TRY TO, UH, YOU KNOW, DO A SETTLEMENT WITH YOU.
UH, BEFORE YOU GO TO ANY OF THESE BULK PLACES, COME INTO THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE.
I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, BUT IN GREENBERG, COME IN AND THEY WILL GIVE YOU A FAIR ASSESSMENT OF WHAT YOUR ASSESSMENT SHOULD BE.
ANYTHING ELSE? YOU CAN THANK ME LATER,
UH, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT, SO, SO THAT'S WHAT A LIAISON DOES SEE.
I'M GONNA FINISH UP REAL QUICK AND RUN FOR COVER.
UM, THE BOARD OF ASSESSMENT REVIEW.
WE HAD AT ONE POINT, WHICH IS WHY THE NUMBERS DROPPED A LITTLE BIT.
WE HAVE MANDATED BY LAW ONE, PUBLIC HEARING ONE BECAUSE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME IN AND, AND PRESENT IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF ASSESSMENT REVIEW.
I THINK LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE THAT WE HAD FIVE PUBLIC MEETINGS BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY PEOPLE MM-HMM
SO HOPEFULLY WITH THIS SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO BUY, UM, WE CAN ELIMINATE SOME OF THAT.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO CONSOLIDATE THE HEARINGS DOWN TO TWO NIGHTS THIS YEAR.
UM, MAYBE ON REVALUATION YEARS, IT MIGHT BE, MIGHT INCREASE A LITTLE BIT, BUT, SO THAT'S WHY.
HOW MUCH IS THE EQUIPMENT THAT YOU'RE GONNA BUY THE SOFTWARE? A MILLION DOLLARS.
SO WILL YOU JUST GIVE ME LIKE 40,000 AND I'LL BE HAPPY WITH THAT
UM, IT, IT, IT WILL BE 20, IF I CAN GET THE SOFTWARE PACKAGE IMMEDIATELY, THAT WOULD BE 16,000, 10,000 FOR MAINTENANCE AND 6,000 FOR A SETUP, THAT WOULD BE THE REMAINING PORTION OF THIS YEAR.
I AM NOT ASKING YOU FOR MONEY.
UM, IN 25, I AM ASKING YOU FOR THE SECOND PHASE IN 26, AND THAT'S ABOUT $20,000.
IS THE DATA FROM THE SOFTWARE COMPANY SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, ACTUALLY COULD BE GRABBED, UH, EASILY FOR OTHER USES? IS, OR IS THIS ALL GOING TO BE PROPRIETARY AND, AND HOW IT'S STORED? OTHER USES FOR WHOM? FOR INTERNAL.
SO, AND IT SPEAKS TO THE SOFTWARE.
ONE, ONE, NOT SURE YET, WHICH IS WHY THAT'S ON THE BACK BURNER.
BUT I DON'T MEAN WHERE YOU COULD GRAB, YOU KNOW, CSV FILE AND, AND BRING IT BACK UP AGAIN.
IS IT ACTUALLY DESIGNED? SO IT'S DIRECTLY READABLE, BUT FOR OTHER PROGRAMS
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YOU SHOULD TALK TO THE, OUR IT WHO HAPPENS TO BE IN THE BUILDING.UH, 'CAUSE HAPPENS TO BE IN THE ROOM.
WE JUST WANT TO, WE DON'T CAST A CHARACTER A BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, UH, SILOS.
UM, THE, THE DATA THAT I WOULD DID WITH THE NEW SOFTWARE, IT WOULD BE THE DATA THAT ALREADY EXISTS IN MY SOFTWARE.
SO, UM, AND I, I WORK WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
I WORK WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
SOMETIMES I, WELL, I WORK WITH THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, SO I'M NOT SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO VIEW MY DATA, MY DATA, THE DOWNS DATA.
THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO DOWNLOAD IT.
SAME AS I HAVE ACCESS TO VIEW BUILDING PERMITS, BUT I CAN'T GRAB THAT.
UM, EXECUTIVE SESSION PERSONNEL MATTERS.
YEAH, THAT'LL BE ABOUT 11 O'CLOCK TONIGHT.
HI, KIMBERLY LINE SOUND COMPTROLLER.
SO WE HAVE THE SALARY LINE, WHICH DOWN WENT DOWN SLIGHTLY, AND THAT'S DUE TO, UM, ALLOCATIONS FOR HR BEING MOVED.
I SEPARATED OUT THE COMPTROLLERS DEPARTMENT AND CREATED A NEW, THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT AN ENTIRE SALARY, ANNUAL SALARY IS THAT THE HR, THE THREE SALARIES THAT ARE IN HR ARE ALLOCATED AMONGST OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
SO JUST OUR PORTION WAS MOVED.
AND SO THAT'S WHY YOU SEE A SLIGHT DECLINE IN THE SALARY LINE.
THE ACCRUED OVERTIME, I'M GOING TO LEAVE THE SAME BECAUSE WE HAVE A POTENTIAL OF SOMEBODY RETIRING ALSO, UH, PERSONAL PAID TIME OFF GOES IN THERE.
ONLY PERSON, ONLY PERSONAL TIME, UH, LONGEVITY.
THAT'S BASED ON, UM, RECORDS FOR OUR DEPARTMENT FOR PAYROLL.
THE OVERTIME, I'D LIKE TO LEAVE WHERE IT IS.
WE WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE A JUNIOR ACCOUNTANT, SO WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING OVERTIME FOR THAT POSITION, FOR THAT POSITION.
BUT ALSO WE'RE STILL DOING CLEANUP WORK.
UM, SOME OF THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IS WITH CASH, WITH, UH, RECEIVABLES, WITH GL LINE DETAIL.
AND SO AS WE CONTINUE THAT WORK, UM, I ANTICIPATE THAT MY STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO NEED SOME OVERTIME HOURS.
THE PART-TIME POSITION OF 38,000 IS FOR THE SENIOR OFFICE ASSISTANT COMPTROLLER, WHICH I'M STILL TRYING TO FILL WITH THE COUNTY.
UM, AND THAT IS BECAUSE I KEEP RECEIVING THE LIST AND THERE AREN'T ANY QUALIFIED APPLICANTS ON THE LIST.
I RETURN THE LIST AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PROCESS AGAIN.
IT TAKES THREE MONTHS EACH TIME.
WELL, CAN I, THE REST, THE REST OF THE ITEMS PRETTY MUCH STAYED CONSISTENT.
KIMBERLY? SO, SO WHY WOULD IT HAVE DROPPED FROM 60,000 DOWN TO 38? BECAUSE THE POSITION WAS FULL-TIME AND I MADE IT PART-TIME.
UM, WHERE IS THE, THE CONFERENCE IN SEMINARS? THAT'S FOR THE NEW YORK, GFOA AS WELL AS THE MEMBERSHIPS.
THOSE ARE ALSO FOR NEW YORK, GFOA, UH, AND SOME OF THE, UH, ACCOUNTING STANDARD BOARDS THAT I'M A MEMBER OF.
SO YOU'RE SAYING HR IS PULLED OUT OF THIS? YEAH.
SO WE'RE, I JUST STARTED ESTABLISHING THAT BUDGET.
SO THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ORG NUMBER NOW, AND A PORTION OF THEIR SALARIES IS BOOKED THERE AND A PORTION IS ALLOCATED TO SOME OF THE OTHER FUNDS.
WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MAKING, UH, THE HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT A, UH, A SEPARATE INDEPENDENT DEPARTMENT.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR A WHILE.
UH, WOULD THAT BE A RECOMMENDATION GOING FORWARD? WHERE TO KEEP IT IN THE CONTROLLER'S DEPARTMENT? UH, WELL, IT IS, IT IS ITS OWN DEPARTMENT, I THINK.
UH, I DON'T THINK IT'S A DEPARTMENT.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE UMBRELLA OVERSIGHT THAT I HAVE OF HR? THAT'S DIFFERENT, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT DOES, IT DOES HAVE ITS OWN DEPARTMENT CODE.
IT SHOULD HAVE HAD ITS OWN DEPARTMENT CODE BASED ON THE NEW YORK STATE UNIFORM CHART OF ACCOUNTS.
SO I'M MORE LOOKING AT THE ACCOUNTING ASPECT OF IT AND IT SHOULD BE SET UP IN THE CHART.
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WELL, SOME OF THIS I THINK NEEDS TO BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE AND BECAUSE, BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY ONE PERSON IN A PARTICULAR LINE, UM, BY TALKING ABOUT THE LINE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PERSON.SO I THINK I, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE, BUT WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE HR SETUP AND, AND TYPICALLY I WILL SAY, WHEN YOU'RE SPEAKING ABOUT A TITLE, WHICH ONLY HAS ONE PERSON, A LOT OF TIMES THE PERSON'S NAME IS SAID ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS.
EVEN IF IT'S NOT INTENTIONAL, JUST IN THE ORDINARY COURSE OF A DISCUSSION.
SO MAY NOT BE THE INTENT, BUT SOMETIMES IT HAPPENS ACCIDENTALLY.
SO I, I PREFER AND RECOMMEND EXECUTIVE SESSION AS WELL.
HOW ARE YOU? LET'S THAT FURTHER AWAY FROM THE MICROPHONE.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE TONIGHT, UNFORTUNATELY.
WE PREVIOUSLY MET WITH CONTROLLER GUT LINE.
UH, DISCUSS THE 2026 PROPOSED BUDGET.
I DON'T THINK YOU HAVE TO KEEP IT THAT CLOSE TO THE AMOUNT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO HOLD, OH, I DON'T HAVE TO HOLD IT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO PUT IT ACROSS THE TABLE EITHER TO MOVE IT A LITTLE CLOSER.
ANYWAY, WE HAVE PUT IT DOWN PLEASE.
IF I PUT IT DOWN, IT'S NOT GONNA NO, JUST BRING IT CLOSER TO THE, THERE YOU GO.
YOU DON'T PUT THINGS ON THE EDGE OF THE TABLE.
WE HAVE NO OPPOSITION TO THE BUDGET AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED THERE.
WELL, WHO PROPOSED THE BUDGET? UM, WELL OUR PROPOSED BUDGET THAT WE CAME TO AN UNDERSTANDING WITH THE CONTROL.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY DISAGREEMENT WITH THE BUDGET.
YOU PROPOSED WITH THE BUDGET PROPOSED? YES.
UM, I SEE YOU'RE NOT GONNA MAKE THIS EASY FOR ME TONIGHT.
UM, FOR THE MOST PART, THE BUDGET ITEMS STAYED AROUND THE SAME.
THERE WERE A FEW AREAS WHERE YOU WILL NOTICE INCREASES, UH, SALARIES, SERVICE CONTRACTS, AND, UM, RENTAL PROPERTY.
UH, BUT IF THE BOARD HAS A SPECIFIC, UH, QUESTIONS OR WOULD LIKE EXPLANATION FOR SPECIFIC THINGS.
I KNOW YOU'RE ALL ACQUAINTED WITH CAPTAIN VALENTINE.
I BROUGHT HIM WITH ME FOR SOME ASSISTANCE.
WE'RE PREPARED TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
AND THE SALARIES ARE BASED ON, UH, THE PBA CONTRACTS, WHICH HAVEN'T BEEN SETTLED YET.
WHAT IT IS, IS, UM, WE HAVE, WE'VE HIRED A, A RELATIVELY HIGH NUMBER OF NEW EMPLOYEES OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS.
RESTAFFING, UM, THEY TEND TO BE CHEAPER WHEN THEY'RE NEWER, BUT AS THEY, YOU KNOW, CLIMB THEIR WAY TOWARDS, UH, TOP PAY OF THE SALARIES INCREASE.
SO, UM, THAT IS, UH, PART OF THE, UH, REASON FOR THAT.
HOW MANY, UH, OFFICERS ARE CURRENTLY, UM, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYED? YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT OBVIOUSLY THERE'S ALWAYS RETIREMENTS.
SO HOW MANY ARE WORKING RIGHT NOW? CURRENTLY WE'RE AT 118 AND, AND THE AUTHORIZED IS ONE 20.
CLOSER THAN WE'VE BEEN FOR SOME TIME.
SO THERE'S SOME WIDE DIVERGENCES OF NUMBERS.
SOME OF THEM LOWER AND SOME OF THEM HIGHER.
SO DO YOU WANNA FOCUS ON THAT? FOR INSTANCE, SICK PAY BUYOUT GOES UP SOMEWHAT, BUT THE, UH, OVERTIME POLICE REIMBURSE GOES DOWN DRAMATICALLY.
AND, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT BE SHIFTING AROUND AS DOES MOTOR VEHICLES WITH MOTOR VEHICLES, OTHER EQUIPMENT.
I, I KNOW I'M NOT ANSWERING THESE IN ORDER.
UM, WITH, IF YOU WANNA GO IN ORDER, THEN WE CAN DO THAT.
THEN, UM, CAN YOU TAKE ME BACK TO THE TOP OF THE LIST PLEASE? OKAY.
OH, WHAT WOULD YOU JUST, UM, EACH ONE AND I THOUGHT, UM, AS YOU WERE NAMING THE ONES YOU WANTED ME TO PROVIDE EXPOSITION FOR, YOU HAVE QUESTIONS ON A PARTICULAR LINE? WELL, JUST THAT THEY'RE, THEY, THEY'RE WILDLY DIVERGENT FROM 24 BUDGET.
IS THAT ONE? LIKE YEAH, LIKE THE ONES I MENTIONED, AS I SAID, ARE WILDLY DIVERGENT, EITHER LOWER
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OR HIGHER.SO WE DO NEED SOME EXPLANATION OF WHY THAT IS UNDERSTOOD WITH LONGEVITY SPECIFICALLY.
AGAIN, THAT INCREASES WITH THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT THE OFFICERS ARE EMPLOYED BY THE DEPARTMENT.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT AS WE HAVE A LARGE NUMBER OF NEWER OFFICERS, UM, YOU KNOW, GROWING IN THE AMOUNT OF TIME THEY HAVE ON THE JOB, THAT IS GOING TO INCREASE WITH THEM.
YOU KNOW, UM, IF WE HAVE AN EXODUS OF PEOPLE RETIRING, YOU KNOW, IT'LL COME DOWN AS WE REPLACE THEM, IT'S LOWER, BUT THEN IT TENDS TO TREND HIGHER AGAIN.
AND JUST BEFORE I RESPOND TO THAT.
DID WITH I, YOU RUN IT THE WAY YOU WANT WHEN WE GET TO IT, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
THE GASR POLICE REFORM, YOU KNOW, UH, WHAT HAVE WE BEEN SPENDING MONEY ON, YOU KNOW, UH, AND WHAT INITIATIVES HAVE WE DONE TO IMPLEMENT THAT LINE ITEM? UH, BIG PART OF THAT WAS THE SERVICE CONTRACT WITH LEXIPOL.
AS WE ARE STILL WORKING ON OUR ROLLOUT OF THE NEW, NEW RULES AND REGULATIONS, WHICH FALLS UNDER SERVICE CONTRACTS.
YOU THINK THAT'LL BE DONE IN 2026? UH, I BELIEVE NEAR THE END, RIGHT.
TO LEAVE NEAR THE END OF 2026.
SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS LIKE 19,000, 2025 SO FAR THAT WE SPENT.
BUT THE BULK WILL BE SPENT NEXT YEAR.
I GUESS IT'S THE ACTUALS WERE 19,000, BUT WE APPROPRIATED, UH, FOR 2025, WE SPENT 19,258.
BUT NEXT YEAR WE, UH, RIGHT NEXT, NEXT YEAR, WE'RE ASKING FOR A HUNDRED THOUSAND.
THE, THE BUDGET HAS STAYED THE SAME RIGHT.
FOR GASSER AND IT COVERS SOME THINGS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN SPENT.
THAT WOULD BE FOR THE CONSULTANT THAT YOU'RE, THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE YES, THAT'S THE CONSULTANT THAT THE CONSULTANT THAT WE HAVE IS ONGOING.
IT'S, UH, THE INITIAL COST WAS HIGHER BECAUSE OF ALL THE WORK THAT HAD TO BE DONE.
AND NOW WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF ROLLING OUT EVERY TWO WEEKS, 10 POLICIES AND PROCEDURES TO THE MEMBERS OF THE DEPARTMENT.
SO WE EXPECT THAT ROLLOUT TO BE COMPLETED BY MARCH OF 26.
WE HAVE TO PAY MAINTENANCE FEES FOR THE SOFTWARE AND SO ON.
SEE, WE'RE AT, WE'RE AT DISADVANTAGE 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, AND I DIDN'T BRING MY BOOK, UH, WHAT WAS IT ACTUALLY BUDGETED FOR? THIS IS A REVISED BUDGET, BUT WHAT WAS IT ACTUALLY, WHEN WE ADOPTED THE BUDGET LAST DECEMBER, WHAT WERE THE NUMBERS FOR EACH OF THESE? I'VE ALWAYS FOUND THAT TO BE HELPFUL TO SEE HOW CLOSE ARE WE TO BUDGET? BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE SAY, SOME PEOPLE, SOME PEOPLE SAY THAT, UH, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS
UH, SOME PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, BUDGET IS, YOU KNOW, THE MEAN, THE THEY DON'T MEAN ANYTHING.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, THE NUMBERS ARE ALL, WELL, THEY DO MEAN SOMETHING TO US AND WE'D LIKE TO SEE HOW CLOSE ARE WE HITTING TO THE BUDGETS THAT WE ADOPTED LAST YEAR AS OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, WELL, WHAT WHATEVER YOU SPENT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
UM, SO SOME OF THE ITEMS THAT WERE BUDGETED FOR WERE, UM, THE AXON SIGNAL SIDEARM FOR ALL THE HOLSTERS SO THAT WHEN AN OFFICER DRAWS THEIR WEAPON OR THEIR TASER, IT SIGNALS THE BODY CAMERAS TO IMMEDIATELY START RECORDING THIS WAY.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO CONSCIOUSLY ACTIVATE IT, THEY CAN JUST FOCUS ON THE PROBLEM.
WE HAVE THAT CAPABILITY NOW, RIGHT? WE DO.
BUT THAT, IT'S PART OF, UM, LAST YEAR, SO FOR 2025, WE BOUGHT THE HOLSTERS FOR THE WEAPONS AND THE SIGNAL SIDEARM.
UH, THOSE ARE ALL ONGOING EXPENSES EVERY YEAR.
IT'S, UM, AND OUR TECHNOLOGY NOW, IF I REMEMBER, 'CAUSE WE BUDGETED FOR THIS, IS THAT WHEN, WHEN ONE OFFICER'S CAMERA GOES ON, THE OTHER OFFICERS IN THE AND THE VICINITY GO ON AS WELL? YEAH.
SO IF WE ALL HAD THE SYSTEM RIGHT AND I DREW MY WEAPON, EVERYONE'S CAMERAS WOULD GO ON.
SO IT'S A BLUETOOTH SIGNAL MM-HMM
AND IT GOES OFF FOR 30 SECONDS.
SO ANY OFFICER SHOWING UP FOR THE NEXT 30 SECONDS, THEIR CAMERA WOULD AUTOMATICALLY ACTIVATE YOU.
BEEFED UP BY THE COMMUNITY POLICING.
UH, REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THAT LAST YEAR.
UH, WHERE ARE WE IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY POLICING NOW? WHERE WERE, WE SAY FIVE YEARS? A COUPLE YEARS AGO WE, PRETTY MUCH WHERE WE WERE, WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO RESTAFF THE UNIT.
UM, THEY'VE BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN, YOU KNOW, A TOWN AND POLICE DEPARTMENT PROGRAMS. UM, AS I KNOW THE, THE BOARD IS, IS AWARE, I'M TRYING TO THINK ACTUALLY HOW MANY PEOPLE WE'VE, WE RESTAFFED THE TWO FULLY, BUT AT ONE POINT WE WERE DOWN TO TWO AND, UH, NOT COUNTING THE LIEUTENANT, I BELIEVE THERE ARE FOUR OR FIVE OFFICERS NOW CURRENTLY STAFFING.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE BENEFITS OF BEING ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, INCREASE THE STAFFING AND, AND RESTAFF CLOSER TO
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OUR MAXIMUM.ALSO, WE HAVE THE YOUTH COURT.
WE'VE HAD THE YOUTH YOUTH COURT FOR A WHILE.
HOW'S THAT GOING? OTHER THAN VERY WELL
BUT, UM, THEY ACTUALLY WILL OUTREACH TO THE CHILDREN, UM, IN SOME OF THE AREA SCHOOLS.
I BELIEVE THE LAST GRADUATING CLASS, IT WAS PROBABLY GIVE OR TAKE AROUND 25 KIDS.
I KNOW IT WAS PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT OVER 20 CHILDREN, UM, OR 20 YOUNG PEOPLE.
BUT, UH, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS, YOU KNOW, UM, PERIODICALLY THE LAST BUNCH OF YEARS AND IT'S GOING WELL.
THESE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT COULD GIVE YOU A BETTER ANSWER IF, IF YOU GAVE ME THE QUESTION AHEAD OF TIME.
I JUST WAS THINKING ABOUT, BECAUSE TOP OF MY HEAD PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I KEEP READING ABOUT THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, YOUTH CAMP, YOUTH COURT, AND YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT IT'S A REALLY GREAT INITIATIVE.
WE'RE STILL DOING THE YOUTH, THE YOUTH COURT AND THE YOUTH.
SO ALL OF THOSE PROGRAMS ARE STILL UP AND RUNNING SUCCESSFULLY.
ACTUALLY, I HAVE, SORRY, GO AHEAD.
NO, I HAD A QUESTION FOR THE CONTROLLER.
SO I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE DOING THE BUDGET LAST YEAR, THERE WAS LIKE A LITTLE TAB ON THE SIDE WHERE THERE WERE LIKE, WHEN THERE WAS AN OUTSTANDING AN, AN ITEM THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, STANDING OUT AS BEING MORE OR LESS OR WHATEVER WITH A, THERE WAS LIKE A LITTLE TAB WITH A DESCRIPTION.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? WHAT A LARGE DIFFERENCE YOU'RE SAYING WITH A FOOTNOTE.
YEAH, IT WAS LIKE A, LIKE WHAT? NEEDY HAD WHAT EDIE HAD ON THE BACK OF HERY? NO, IT WAS, IT WAS ON, IT WAS LIKE AN EXTRA COLUMN.
THEY GAVE THE, THEY GAVE THE, GAVE THE DETAIL.
DETAIL, DETAIL, I THINK EXPLANATION THAT EDIE HAD ON HER.
I THINK IT'S JUST HOW YOU PRINTED IT, SO MM-HMM
SO THIS IS, THIS IS WHEN IT GOES ALL THE WAY OVER.
AND THEN YOU HAVE YOUR NOTES ON WHAT NOTES? THE NOTES, YES.
WELL, THAT WOULD BE LOOKING AT LISA'S PAPER, SO, CORRECT.
SO, SO, SO WHAT I WAS ABLE TO DECIPHER FROM THE, UM, TOWN CLERK WITH HER BUDGET IS THAT WHEN IT SAYS 2025 REVISED BUDGET, MOST OF THOSE ARE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS THAT WE ADOPTED.
BUT THERE ARE A FEW THAT WERE REVISED, BUT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHICH ONES WERE REVISED.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO THE HEADING IS A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING.
IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE ALL OF THESE WERE REVISED NUMBERS THAT THEY'RE NOT, THEY MUST HAVE JUST CARRIED OVER THE SYSTEM THE WAY IT'S, I COULD GIVE AN EXAMPLE.
THE, THE MOTOR VEHICLE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR.
IS THAT $60,000 AS OPPOSED TO 472? WELL, IT'S, IT'S, UM, THE 25 REVISED BUDGET IS 186,086.
THAT'S BECAUSE WE RECEIVED A $90,000 GRANT FOR MOTORCYCLES AND A TRAILER.
BUT IN ORDER TO GET THE GRANT, WE HAD TO HAVE THE MONEY TO HAVE A PURCHASE ORDER.
SO SHE TRANSFERRED FUNDS INTO THAT BUDGET LINE SO THAT WE COULD MAKE THE PURCHASE AND THEN GET REIMBURSED BY THE STATE.
SO THAT'S WHY THAT FIGURE'S MUCH HIGHER.
UM, THE 180 6? YEAH, SO IT'S 180 6 WHERE IT WAS, UH, IT WAS ABOUT 60,000 LAST YEAR AS WELL.
IT JUST LOOKS DRAMATICALLY HIGHER.
SO THAT'S WHY THEY CARRIED OVER THE 60 FOR THIS YEAR.
HOW MUCH IS THE TRAILER? UH, I'M GONNA SAY IT'S APPROXIMATELY $16,000 FOR THE TRAILER AND THE EQUIPMENT.
AND THEN THE TWO MOTORCYCLES, UH, IT, IT, THE TOTAL WAS JUST SHY OF 90,000 FOR EVERYTHING.
AND THIS IS TO TRANSPORT THEM WHERE THIS WAS, TO, IF WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM TO SERVICE OR WE HAVE TO BRING THEM SOMEWHERE.
RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GONNA BE STORING, UH, THE MOTORCYCLES IN THE TRAILER BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO, TO STORE THEM.
THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS SHOULD BE INSTALLED BY, UH, THE END OF THE YEAR.
IS THAT, WHERE WE'RE I, I WAS HOPEFUL ORIGINALLY.
UM, AS OF RIGHT NOW, I'M GONNA MEET WITH, UH, THE TOWN OF EMPLOYEES INVOLVED LATER ON THIS WEEK.
UM, NORMALLY GEN OPTIC PREDICTED IF WE HAD A FAST TURNAROUND, IT WOULD BE AROUND THREE MONTHS, BUT IT TOOK A LITTLE LONGER, UM, TO ACTUALLY GET TO WHERE WE GOT THE CONTRACT FINALIZED.
SO AS SOON AS I'M ABLE TO GIVE THE BOARD AN INTELLIGENT AND RESPONSIBLE UPDATE, I WILL.
THE RADIO MAINTENANCE PROPORTIONATELY, WE CAN'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THE STATE ON ANY OTHER IMPROVEMENT WITHOUT THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS INSTALLED.
BUT THE STATE USUALLY DOESN'T, UM, ACT ON ANYTHING UNTIL LIKE JUNE.
SO THERE'S A LITTLE YEAH, I'M TALKING ABOUT IF IT'S NOT DECEMBER AND IF IT'S JANUARY, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE, IT'S NOT THE END OF THE WORLD, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THEY'RE NOT EVEN
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PUTTING US IN A QUEUE.ON THE OTHER ITEMS, WE WILL BE, WE WILL BE TRYING TO EXPEDITE, WE HAD HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT HOW FAST WE COULD MOVE ONCE WE GOT STARTED.
SO, UM, I'LL HAVE A BETTER IDEA SHORTLY.
MAYBE WHILE I, I DON'T WANNA PROMISE ANYTHING AND IT NOT BE ACCURATE.
MAYBE WHAT WE COULD DO IS, UM, SET UP A MEETING WITH, I'M JUST THROWING OUT, SETTING UP A MEETING WITH THE, OUR STATE LEGISLATORS AND, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH YOU AND YOU KNOW, YOUR TEAM AND BASICALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REALLY HONESTLY MOVING FORWARD WITH THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS.
AND THIS IS BECAUSE EVERYBODY KNOWS WITH, WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH CONTRACTORS OR WHATEVER, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, DELAYS.
BUT IF THEY SEE THAT WE'RE REALLY MOVING FORWARD AND WE'RE REALLY DILIGENT ON IT, THEN MAYBE THEY COULD AT LEAST PUT, UH, THE OTHER REQUESTS IN THE HOPPER.
AND, UM, AND THIS WAY WE WON'T BE, WELL AS, AS WILLETT TOLD US SOME, SOME MONTHS AGO, UM, THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE 20,000 BILLS PROPOSED IN A GIVEN YEAR, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO ADDRESS THEM.
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO NECESSARILY JUMP THINGS AHEAD.
I, THEY, THEY ONLY, THEY ONLY CAN GET THIS, GET IT THROUGH THE SYSTEM, GET A FEW AT A TIME THROUGH THE SYSTEM.
I WAS SAYING BASICALLY, BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THAT HAVING THE MEETING AND AND HAVING US GO TO THE HEAD OF THE LINE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN DO.
I'M NOT ASKING, I'M NOT ASKING TO GO TO THE HEAD OF THE LINE.
I'M SAYING THAT, OR MOVING FORWARD, ANDREA, ANDREAS OR COUSINS AND, UM, MARY JANE CHIMPSKY ARE SAYING THEY WANNA SEE THAT WE'RE MOVING AHEAD WITH THE RED LIGHT CAMERAS BEFORE THEY'LL CONSIDER, UH, THE SPEED CAMERAS OR THE NOISE CAMERAS.
BUT THAT, THAT'S NOT REALLY A BUDGET ITEM THOUGH.
WE'RE, WE REALLY JUST NEED TO GO THROUGH THE BUDGET.
WELL, IT, WELL, WE'VE HAD THAT DISCUSSION.
UM, I THINK IF I HEARD YOU CORRECTLY, CHIEF, THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GIVE US A TIMELINE ONCE YOU SPEAK TO THE SUPPLIER TOMORROW, AND THEN YOU CAN SEND US AN UPDATE SO WE CAN KNOW HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT I HEARD.
BUT, BUT WE DO, WE ANTICIPATE PUTTING THAT MONEY INTO THE BUDGET.
SO IS IS THE MONEY FOR NOISE CAMERAS AND SPEED CAMERAS IN THE BUDGET? YES.
AND WHERE, WHICH LINE WOULD THAT? UNDER, UNDER WHAT? I BELIEVE IT WAS THE CAPITOL.
CAMERAS AND SPEED CAM, ARE YOU SAYING NOISE CAMERAS AND SPEED CAM? NO, JUST RED LIGHT CAMERAS RIGHT NOW.
BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T BEEN A, WE HAVEN'T BEEN, NO.
RED LIGHT CAMERAS ARE THE ONES THAT WE'RE DOING NOW.
BUT ONCE WE PUT IN STATE LEGISLATION, DON'T WE WANT TO ACTUALLY INSTALL THEM, WHICH WILL NO, BUT I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, THE NOISE CAMERAS AND THE SPEED CAMERAS.
UM, WE COULD PUT THAT IN A CAPITAL BUDGET, BUT THE CHANCES ARE THAT THE, YOU KNOW, THAT THE BEST SCENARIO WOULD BE THAT STATE LEGISLATURE WOULD APPROVE, APPROVE IT RIGHT BEFORE THEY END THE SESSION, WHICH IS JUNE, THEN THE GOVERNOR HAS TILL THE END OF THE YEAR, UH, TO SIGN IT.
SO THE PROBABILITY IS THAT EVEN IF THE STATE WOULD APPROVE NOISE CAMERAS AND SPEED CAMERAS, IT WOULDN'T GET IMPLEMENTED UNTIL 2027.
BECAUSE GOVERNOR IS NOT GONNA SIGN.
THEY, THE GOVERNOR USUALLY WAITS UNTIL LIKE, END OF THE YEAR.
I THINK A SPEED CAMERA BY SCHOOL, DIS BY SCHOOLS.
GIVE SOME, SHE MIGHT BE MOTIVATED TO DO THAT SOONER THAN LATER.
YOU CAN'T PROJECT ON THAT ONE.
WE SHOULD JUST MAKE SURE WE HAD THOSE FUNDINGS IN THE BUDGET.
YEAH, THE, YOU KNOW, THE OTHER CAMERA, THE, THEY'RE NOT CAMERAS.
THE LIGHT, THE OLD ARMY ROAD, YOU KNOW, THE AND R WAIT TRAFFIC, THE FORT HILL AND ARLEY ROAD.
IS THAT YOUR, THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC WORKS, RIGHT? OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? SO, AGAIN, I'M JUST GONNA ASK THIS ACTUALLY OF THE CONTROLLER.
SO IF WE HAD THE NOTES SECTION, WE WOULD SEE SOME DESCRIPTIONS OF THINGS THAT WE'RE HAVING TO ASK YOU ABOUT.
SHE'S, IT'S, WE'RE HAVING A TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY, CORRECT.
OH, SHE CAN, WE'RE HAVING THE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTY.
SO I'M GONNA MAKE THE REQUEST THAT, YEAH.
THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT FOR EVERY ONE OF THESE, UH, BUDGETS.
AND IT, AND ACTUALLY MOST OF THEM DON'T.
THE VAST MAJORITY, AT LEAST IN YOURS, DIDN'T CHANGE FROM THE REVISED.
IN OTHER WORDS, WE HAVE TO, WE HAVE TO MAKE A REVISION IN THE BUDGET.
THIS JUST MAKES IT SEEM LIKE EVERYTHING WAS REVISED.
SO
THAT'S ALL PAID FOR BY THE LETHEL SCHOOL.
THAT'S, THAT'S REIMBURSED OVER TIME.
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THE SOLOMON SCHECHTER, WHICH I ASSUME YOU'RE GONNA CHANGE THE NAME AT SOME POINT.THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE, THE PHONE, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S ZERO THIS YEAR.
WHERE IS THAT? ON THE THIRD PAGE? SECOND SHEET.
BUT FOR THE 2025 REVISED BUDGET, IT WAS REIMBURSED 66,000.
BUT IT'S NOT LISTED ANYTHING FOR 2026 TENTATIVE.
NOW WE DON'T, DON'T INSERT THOSE NUMBERS.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE WHY 66,000 IS STILL THERE.
THEIR BILLING COMES STRAIGHT THROUGH THE OVERTIME REIMBURSABLE BUDGET.
IT DOESN'T COME THROUGH THIS, UH, REVENUE STREAM ANYMORE.
SO IT'S NOT BUT THIS LINE SHOULDNT BE THERE.
UM, SO THE BUDGET FOR THIS YEAR FOR 26 IS ZERO.
SO REVISED BUDGET FOR 24 WAS 66.
TOTAL ACTUALS FOR 25 N 25 WAS 66.
SO THEY REMOVED, SO WE SHOULDN'T PUT A LINE IN HERE AT ALL.
NO, IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY ZEROED OUT FOR 2026.
SO WHY WOULD IT, WHY WERE THEY PUTTING 66 BEFORE? WAS THAT TO JUST SHOW THAT WE WERE GETTING THE REIMBURSEMENT? I THINK PRIOR TO THE WAY IT'S DONE NOW.
THE HARDSHIP EXCEPTION, SNOW, THERE'S A FEE FOR THAT.
AND HOW GOOD IS THE PERMIT FOR JUST THE WINTER SEASON? NO, NOVEMBER TO MARCH.
DECEMBER 1ST THROUGH MARCH 15TH.
AND AND THAT MEANS THE PLOWS HAVE TO GO AROUND THE VEHICLE OR WHAT'S NO, NO.
WHEN THERE'S A SNOW EMERGENCY, THEY HAVE TO MOVE THE VEHICLE FROM THE ROADWAY.
FIND SOMEWHERE ELSE TO PUT IT.
HOWEVER, IF THERE'S SNOW, NO SNOW EMERGENCY.
OH, SO THIS IS THE THING THAT WE IMPLEMENTED LAST TIME.
THEY CAN PARK IF THERE'S NO SNOW, THEY CAN LEAVE THE CAR ON THE STREET IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE WITH THE PERMIT DISPLAYED AND NOT GET A TICKET UNLESS THERE'S A SNOW.
EMERGENCY MEDICAL SERVICES MOVED OVER INTO, SO THIS, THIS WAS, UM, FOR THE BILLING, WHICH WE HAD SOME ISSUES THIS YEAR WITH THE BILLING COMPANY, WHICH IS REC.
WE'VE RECENTLY RENEWED OR GOT A CONTRACT WITH A NEW VENDOR.
SIRI IS DEMANDING YOU TO REPEAT IT AND THAT YOU, OH, IS THIS ME NOW? YOU KICKED OFF MINE.
BECAUSE OF SOME ISSUES WITH EMS BILLING THIS YEAR.
WE'RE TRYING TO RECOVER THAT, BUT WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH A NEW COMPANY, SO WE'RE HOPEFUL THE FIGURE WILL BE HIGHER THAN WHAT'S HERE.
BUT I THINK WE'RE, UH, JUST TRYING TO BE A SAFE NUMBER.
HOW COME THAT'S NOT JUST BUILT INTO THE, UH, TO THE SALARIES? 'CAUSE THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS, RIGHT? NOT SURE WHY THEY SEPARATE IT.
IT'S JUST, UH, ONE OF THOSE BUDGET LINES THAT THE OFFICERS CAN ELECT TO CASH IN THEIR DAYS OFF.
THEY CAN USE THEM OR THEY CAN ASK FOR PAY.
HOW'S THE CANINE WORKING? AWESOME.
MOST, MOST OF US WENT TO, YOU KNOW, UH, MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS MEETING AND THEY HAD ONE OF THE DOGS THERE.
IT'S REALLY, UH, IT'S REALLY BEEN TRAINING HUGELY SUCCESSFUL FOR OUR PEOPLE AS WELL AS THE COMMUNITY.
AND A LOT OF OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENTS HAVE, HAVE REACHED OUT TO US ABOUT HOW WE DID IT.
SO IT'S, THEY HIGHLIGHTED GREEN BIRD AT IT'S, UH, IT'S BEEN AMAZING.
IT, IT DOES BRING A DIFFERENT, UH, MAKES THE WORK ENVIRONMENT A LITTLE DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT.
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WE, WE START SMART NEXT MONDAY.
I HAVE ANOTHER, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
OR, WE ARE RUNNING VERY LATE BEHIND SCHEDULE.
WE HAD ALLOCATED ABOUT 10 MORE MINUTES FOR BUDGET PRESENTATIONS TONIGHT.
WE HAVE SOMEONE COMING IN AT SEVEN 30.
DO THEY KNOW WE'RE RUNNING LATE? HURRY UP.
PETE, DO YOU HAVE TO CONTACT INFO? OH, IT'S OKAY.
UM, I CAN REACH OUT 10 MINUTES.
WELL THEN IT BACKS EVERY, YEAH.
MY NAME IS PETER BRA AND I AM THE MANAGER OF INFORMATION TECHNOLOGIES, MIS.
SO, ANY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES? YEAH, THERE'S A COUPLE.
UM, THE BIGGEST ONE IS UNDER, UH, SERVICE CONTRACTS.
UH, WE'RE LOOKING TO CONSOLIDATE ALL THE SOFTWARE THAT'S PURCHASED BY THE TOWN BECAUSE IT'S NOW BEING, UH, USED ON A MORE GLOBAL BASIS RATHER THAN PIECEMEAL, AS WELL AS IT ALLOWS US TO MAINTAIN THESE CONTRACTS AND MAKE SURE THEY GET PAID AS WELL AS, UH, NEGOTIATE BETTER PRICING AND COORDINATION.
UM, THE PERFECT EXAMPLE WOULD BE, UH, TYLER, OF COURSE NOW WE USE IT EVERYWHERE.
RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING WITH THE COMP CONTROLLER'S OFFICE TO IMPLEMENT TIME AND ATTENDANCE, WHICH IS GOING TO ALLOW, YOU KNOW, EMPLOYEES TO USE THE TIME CLOCKS.
BUT NOW THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THEIR, UH, TIME OFF TOTALS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
REQUEST TIME OFF FROM, FROM A WEBSITE.
THEY WON'T HAVE TO CALL THE, THE DEPARTMENT SECRETARY, WHATEVER IT MAY BE.
UM, ALSO WE'RE ROLLING OUT, UH, SERVICE REQUEST KINDS OF, UH, FUNCTIONALITY THAT WILL BE HAPPENING NEXT YEAR.
WE STARTED WITH ERB, NOW WE ARE MOVING ON TO EVERYONE ELSE THAT, THAT WE'LL BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITH.
WE'RE TRYING TO TAKE, UM, TYLER OR MUNI, UH, AND, AND APPLY IT TO ALL DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND GET OUR MONEY'S WORTH.
SO IS THIS BASICALLY BECAUSE YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF CONSOLIDATING EVERYTHING, MAKING THAT HAPPEN? THE COST WILL THEN GO DOWN IN SUBSEQUENT YEARS, I BELIEVE.
EVEN THOUGH THE SERVICE CONTRACTS ARE GOING FROM 240,000 TO 417, BY CONSOLIDATING, WE BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOT OF THAT OUTTA THE EXISTING, THE EXISTING BUDGETS FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
THAT, THAT YOU HAVE IT, THAT NOW PAY FOR IT.
THERE USED TO BE A FORMULA THAT I, I WOULD APPLY.
I WOULD, FROM THE, UH, TYLER BILL, I WOULD SAY, OKAY, THIS WILL FORMULA APPLY.
SO SOME COMES OUTTA DPW, SOME COMES OUTTA CLERKS, SOME COMES OUTTA THE LIBRARY.
THIS WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE PROVIDING MORE SERVICE FOR THEM, UH, AND TO MORE PEOPLE.
'CAUSE IT ONLY COMES OUT OF EIGHT ACCOUNTS AND THERE'S MORE IN EIGHT DEPARTMENTS.
UM, THIS IS HOPEFULLY IN THE LONG RUN WILL BE MORE EQUITABLE.
IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF WE COULD TRACK WHERE THAT OTHER MONEY IS COMING FROM.
'CAUSE IT'S $180,000 MORE THEREABOUTS.
AND SEE WHERE, WHERE WE CAN TAKE IT OUT OF OTHER BUDGETS SO IT'S NOT SO DRAMATIC.
UH, THE OTHER DIFFERENCE IS ALSO IN PART-TIME.
WE'RE ASKING FOR, UM, TO HAVE A PART-TIME PERSON ASSIST US IN OUR DEPLOYMENT OF EQUIPMENT AND, AND ASSISTING USERS.
UM, THE TOWN IS GROWING IN THE AMOUNT OF DEVICES WE HAVE, AS WELL AS THE COMPLEXITY OF THESE DEVICES.
AND THIS WOULD REALLY HELP US, UH, PROVIDE BETTER SERVICE.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE JUST DID THIS WEEK WAS WE ENABLED ANOTHER LEVEL OF MULTIFACTOR AUTHENTICATION, UM, ON NEWNESS, WHICH IS OF COURSE, OUR MONEY, UM, SOFTWARE.
AND IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT MULTIFACTORS INVOLVE EVERYWHERE, BUT IT'S A LITTLE DIFFICULT FOR SOME FOLKS TO UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE NEED FOR THE SECURITY.
SO WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME EDUCATING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I, WE JUST HAVE TO DO IT RIGHT? YEAH.
PEOPLE WILL LEARN HOW TO USE IT.
WE'RE VERY, WE'RE VERY CONFIDENT IN OUR LEVEL OF SECURITY, BUT WE GOTTA CONTINUE EVOLVING AS TIME GOES ON.
AND I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR YOU GUYS SOMETIME ANOTHER MONTH OR SO OF THE SECURITY THINGS WE'VE IMPLEMENTED THAT'S GOING TO MAKE US ALL FEEL BETTER THAT HOPEFULLY THAT WE'RE
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DOING THE RIGHT THING.ASSET MANAGEMENT, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE WAY THAT THE CONTROLLER TRACKS ASSETS DOES NOT WORK WITH THE WAY THE TYLER WANTS TO TRACK ASSETS.
SO I'M WORKING WITH THE CONTROLLER, THE FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN COME UP WITH IT.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE TAKING THE, UH, THE ASSETS AND DEPRECIATE THEM AS A, AS A BUNCH, AS A GROUPING.
WHEREAS TYLER WANTS TO DO IT ON AN INDIVIDUAL ONE BY ONE BASIS.
SO THEY HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T DO IT AND WOULD MAKE LIFE A LOT MORE DIFFICULT FOR EVERYBODY.
WOULD THAT BE WITHIN THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE PART-TIME, NEW PART-TIME PERSON TO KEEP THAT UP TO DATE? UH, NO.
THAT, NO, THAT PERSON WOULD BE WORKING ON ACTUALLY PUTTING COMPUTERS OUT WHERE THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE AND, AND ASSISTING USERS.
UM, REALLY RIGHT NOW WE'RE FOCUSED, BOTH COMP CONTROLLER'S OFFICE AND I ARE FOCUSED ON TIME INTENSE.
UM, SO THAT WILL BE IN JANUARY WHEN TIME INTENSE IS DONE, WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK TO THAT AND SEE HOW WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW IT'S DONE.
IN THE INTERIM THOUGH, WE IN IT ARE TRACKING ALL OUR EQUIPMENT.
BUT, UH, IT ALLOWS US TO TRACK ALL OUR IT DATABASES.
WE CAN CONNECT TO ALL YOUR DEVICES, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE NEED TO, WHETHER IT BE A LAPTOP OR A, UH, A DESKTOP.
AND, UH, SO WHEN SOMEBODY LEAVES, WE KNOW WHAT TECH, WHAT IT TECHNOLOGY THEY HAVE.
I, WE DON'T WANT IT TO GET HELD UP THOUGH.
THE, THE CONTROLLER HAS A DIFFERENT, UM, ROLE WHERE SHE WANTS TO KNOW HOW THE ASSETS ARE DEPRECIATING OVER TIME.
SO SHE CAN PUT IT INTO HER SHEETS.
WHAT WE'RE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS, WHAT DO WE HAVE, RIGHT? FORGET ABOUT THE DEPRECIATION IS JUST WHAT PHYSICALLY DO? WE, WE HAVE, WHERE IS IT? WHERE IS IT? AND WHO HAS IT? RIGHT.
I MEAN, WE COULD SET A STANDALONE, YOU KNOW, MY THOUGHT ORIGINALLY WAS TO USE MUNI BECAUSE IT HAS THAT CAPABILITY BUILT INTO IT.
UM, AND WE DON'T NEED TO GO OUT AND BUY ANOTHER CHUNK OF SOFTWARE MM-HMM
UM, AND PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO USE IT.
WE, WE JUST HAVE TO DIFFERENTIATE THAT ON EUNICE FROM WHAT THE CONTROLLER DOES.
AND THAT'S WHERE I THINK THERE'S A HANGUP.
'CAUSE WE'RE USING THE SAME TERM.
UM, SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT TRACKING INVENTORY, RIGHT? AND I'M TALKING ABOUT FIXED ASSETS THAT WE'RE CAPITALIZING.
SO THE SYSTEM HAS BOTH CAPABILITIES, BUT THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO, UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE NOT TRACKING INVENTORY.
WE'RE NOT TRACKING, UM, ASSETS PER SE THAT ARE UNDER $5,000.
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WANTS TO IMPLEMENT.
TO REPEAT WHAT WE SAID LAST YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE
DO YOU DO WANNA GIVE THEM A MINIMUM UNDERSTANDING WHAT, WHAT'S, SO I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WOULDN'T BE PART AT YOUR CORRECT, FRANCIS.
THAT WOULDN'T BE PART OF WHAT I AM DOING AND WHAT WE'RE REQUIRED TO DO IN GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTING.
BUT THE TYLER HAS THE CAPABILITY OF TRACKING INVENTORY AND WE CAN IMPLEMENT THAT.
UM, WE CAN CERTAINLY GO AROUND, UM, AND TAG ASSETS.
UM, WE COULD USE GOODS THAT CAN TRANSFER INFORMATION INTO TYLER.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD WORK ON IMPLEMENTING AFTER THE TIME AND ATTENDANCE.
WHY, WHY CAN'T IT BE SIMULTANEOUSLY? I, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN ASKING THIS FOR THIS FOR THREE YEARS.
I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY WE CAN'T DO THIS.
WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT? WHY DO WE DO WE HAVE TO WAIT A HUGE, UH, A HUGE, UH, IMPLEMENTATION AND TRANSFORMATION.
WE'RE, YOU KNOW, MOVING ALL OUR DATA FROM KRONOS, CONNECTING IT TO EUNICE AND SETTING UP ALL THE METRICS FOR ALL OF THE EMPLOYEES TO USE THE, THE NEW TIME ATTENDANCE, UH, PLUS THE ONBOARDING OFFBOARDING MODULES.
I MEAN, IT IS A HUGE UNDERTAKING.
SO THEN THE RISK MA THE RISK, AND THIS IS REALLY FOR YOU, NOT FOR YOU, KIMBERLY.
SO IS THIS PROJECT AGAIN GONNA BE PUSHED BACK ANOTHER THREE YEARS? I WOULD SAY THREE YEARS, BUT I, I, I'M INVOLVED.
WE'VE BEEN MEETING FOR SIX TO EIGHT, SIX TO NINE HOURS A WEEK, UH, WITH THE TYLER FOLKS AND THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.
THEY HAVE FOUR PEOPLE DEDICATED TO IT.
WE'RE JUST VERY FOCUSED ON THIS BECAUSE IF WE MESS UP PEOPLE'S PAYCHECKS, I I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT.
I JUST, I GUESS IT'S FRUSTRATING.
'CAUSE AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS TO HAPPEN THREE YEARS AGO BEFORE THE TIME AND ATTENDANCE
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PROJECT, UM, CAME INTO PLAY.SO THAT IS JUST OUR FRUSTRATION.
WE, WE'LL DEDICATE SOME RESOURCES TO IT.
IT JUST WON'T BE A FULL ON LIKE TIME AND TENS AND WE'LL SEE IF WE CAN GET THE BALL ROLLING.
DO WE NEED TO SET A MINIMUM DOLLAR AMOUNT? LIKE IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, KIMBERLY, YOU MENTIONED A FI YOU, YOU, YOU'RE TRACKING $5,000 ASSETS AND UP.
SO ARE WE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT TRACK.
SO WE'RE NOT TRACKING, YOU KNOW, REAMS OF PAPER.
WE, WE NEED TO SET LIKE A, A MINIMUM BAR OF SOMETHING.
WE NEED TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT'S GIVEN OUT.
SO OUR YOUR THIS SYSTEM WILL HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO INTEGRATION WITH MY SYSTEM OTHERWISE.
MY ACCOUNTING BOOKS ARE GOING TO BE HAY WATER.
I WASN'T SEPARATE FROM SEPARATE.
WHAT KIMBERLY'S DOING IS TOTALLY SEPARATE THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR PETER.
SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST SO WHAT, WHAT IS THE VALUE OF THE, OF THE, UH, WAIT, WE'VE BEEN THROUGH ALL THIS ALREADY.
UH, UH, LIZ GARRITY, DEPUTY, UH, BUILDING INSPECTOR, UH, TOOK SOME PROCEDURES THAT, YOU KNOW, I USED IN MY OTHER LIFE AND MODIFIED IT SO THAT IT WOULD BE A, COULD BECOME A POLICY FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
IT DEALS WITH, YOU CAN'T JUST SAY $5,000 BECAUSE THEN ALL THE CELL PHONES DON'T COUNT AND ALL THE, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S SENSITIVE EQUIPMENT, I BELIEVE THEY CALL IT.
UH, WHICH IS ANOTHER WAY OF SAYING THEY EASILY STOLEN
SO IF THERE'S EASILY STOLEN EQUIPMENT, THAT ALSO GETS TRACKED.
NO, I AGREE THAT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
SO, SO, UH, I THINK, I THINK WE HAVE A, I I THINK WE HAVE THE, THE PARAMETERS OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE TRACKED.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, IF WE COULD DO THAT ON TYLER IN A SEPARATE SECTION THAT DOESN'T KEEP OUR CONTROLLER UP AT NIGHT MORE THAN SHE ALREADY IS, THEN UH, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD AT LEAST START BECAUSE WE MAY FIND, AS WE'RE STARTING TO INPUT IT, MAYBE TYLER'S NOT THE BEST THING TO USE.
BUT AT LEAST WE COULD DO A START.
DO YOU FEEL THAT, UM, WE HAVE THE NECESSARY EQUIPMENT TO DEAL WITH, YOU KNOW, CYBER ATTACKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT? I DO.
WE, UM, AS I SAID, WE, WE'VE BEEN DOING SOME THINGS TO INCREASE OUR SECURITY DETECTIONS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO SAY WHAT THEY ARE.
LIKE ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN TELL WHEN SOMEBODY HAS WHAT'S CALLED IMPOSSIBLE TRAVEL.
IF THEY LOG IN HERE IN GREENBURG AND THEN IN AN HOUR LATER THEY LOG IN IN CALIFORNIA, UM, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE.
UM, SO WE CAN DETECT THAT NOW.
UH, WE HAVE MUCH GREATER SPACE SHUTTLE MAYBE.
WELL IF ELON MUSK HAS HIS WAY, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN DETECT THESE THINGS.
WE GET REPORTS ON THESE THINGS.
WE CAN TELL WHEN PEOPLE ARE DOING THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, DON'T SEEM RIGHT.
UM, WITH THE WAY THEY LOG IN, LIKE THEY'RE FROM, UM, AN UNFAMILIAR DEVICE IN PLACE AND A FEW OTHER THINGS.
WE'RE WORKING WITH TYLER TOO, TO HAVE IT BE ABLE TO AUDIT IN A LITTLE BIT BETTER FASHION.
PEOPLE THAT LIKE, SAY, LIKE ME, I SHOULD NOT BE IN THE CLERK'S FILES OR, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THAT'S A, A MODULE THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE IMPLEMENTING IN JANUARY.
UM, THAT'S REALLY GONNA HELP US PREVENT ANYTHING, ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU READ A LOT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, NOT-FOR-PROFITS OR MUNICIPALITIES GETTING EMBEZZLED OR WHATEVER ELSE, WE'RE GONNA BE GIVING ANOTHER LAYER OF THAT, OF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THIS PERSON IS IN THIS DEPARTMENT, THERE'S NO REASON THEY SHOULD BE LOOKING AT THIS DATA.
YOU, WHAT HAPPENED IN SUFFOLK COUNTY IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED IN SUFFOLK.
I READ ABOUT IT PRETTY MUCH EVERY WEEK.
I SENT YOU, UM, UM, A NOTE FROM SENATOR GILLIBRAND'S OFFICE TODAY, AND THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE'S OFFICE HAS A GRANT, BUT I THINK IT'S DUE, UH, NEXT WEEK.
THAT'S FOR MULTIFACTOR AUTHENTICATION FOR IMPLEMENTING THAT.
SO WE ARE KIND OF A, WE, I'M LOOKING AT THAT GRANT AS MAYBE THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO USE THEIR CELL PHONES.
'CAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TOWN CELL PHONES.
THEY DON'T WANNA USE THEIR CELL PHONES AS THE AUTHENTICATOR.
SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS GET THESE LITTLE KEYS ARE CALLED, THEY HAVE A LITTLE NUMBER THAT CHANGES EVERY, LIKE 30 SECONDS OR SO TOKENS THIS WAY.
THEY'RE NOT, RIGHT NOW WE'RE USING THEIR OFFICE PHONES, WHICH IS OKAY.
BUT, UH, WE MAY BE ABLE TO USE THE RAMP FOR THAT.
SO COULD, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S DUE, UH, NEXT WEEK.
THE OTHER THING IS WE'RE WE ARE REDOING THE PHONE SYSTEM CONTRACT.
IT'S UP AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
UH, WE SU SUSPECT THERE'LL BE SUBSTANTIAL SA SAVINGS FROM LIGHT PATH, UM, IN THE, IN THE, IN THE 25 TO 30% RANGE.
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LIGHT PATH HAS A GRIP ON THE MARKET THROUGH THE COUNTY.AND, UH, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'VE GONE TO A LOT OF INDEPENDENT VENDORS.
NOW IT'S, IT'S ALL CLOUD BASED.
THERE'S NO EQUIPMENT ON, ON, ON, UH, THIS IS THE OGS CONTRA.
UH, THE ONE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW IS NOT UNFORTUNATELY, BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT ONES.
YOU KNOW, SINCE WE'RE RUNNING SO LATE.
I JUST WANNA KNOW, ARE WE'RE GONNA KEEP THE SAME PHONES? NO, SHE KNOWS PHONES.
I GUESS MOTION FOR EXECUTIVE SESSION.
OH, I'M SITTING
WHAT DID I SAY? WHAT'D YOU USE? ARE WE WAITING FOR, UM, CARD STOCK.
YOU KNOW, I WAS LIKING THIS ONE A LOT BETTER.
IT WAS JUST EASIER FOR MY EYES.
I'M GONNA HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS BUDGET MORE CAREFULLY HERE.
WHAT'S THAT? IS THERE ONE 50? IS THERE ONE? YES.
AND WHAT I DO IS I REUSE THESE FOR, UM, CERTIFICATES.
I DO EVERY, I USE THEM FOR SIGNS.
YOU HAVE A LOT OF, UH, COPIES HERE.
AND ACTUALLY I DID ASK FOR SURPRISE WENT WAY UP.
I, I KNOW, RIGHT? AND I DID ASK FOR EXTRA MONEY.
UM, UM, WOULD, UM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO START? YEAH, YOU CAN START, START.
UH, TOTAL EXPENSES FOR, UH, 2025.
UM, THE TOTAL EXPENSES BUDGETED FOR 2026 IS FIVE HUNDRED THOUSAND FIVE HUNDRED SIXTY TWO THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED AND THIRTY NINE DOLLARS.
THAT IS A 13% INCREASE OVERALL.
THANK YOU, MR. JONATHAN DESANTO,
I DO NOT HAVE THE PERCENTAGE OF INCREASED REVENUES, UM, OVER, BETWEEN LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR, THE PREVIOUS YEAR, LAST YEAR.
AND THIS YEAR, THIS YEAR, UH, PROJECTED, UH, WHICH WILL BE IN, UH, WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN AN INCREASE WITH, UH, PERMITS, OUR LICENSING, AND OF COURSE, UH, THE RESOLUTION CHANGING THE, UH, FILMING, UM, FEES THAT INCREASED ALMOST, UH, 300%.
SO THAT IS GOING TO BE, UM, ALL MONEY COMING BACK INTO THE TOWN.
UM, BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH WESTCHESTER COUNTY, UM, AND TRYING TO, UH, MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE A SITE THAT MR. SPIELBERG WOULD APPRECIATE COMING BACK TO AS HE DID, UH, A FEW MONTHS AGO.
DID PETERS STEAL MY PEN? PROBABLY.
HE THOUGHT IT WAS A GIFT AND I WATCHED IT WHEN HE WAS HELPING ME HERE THAN YOU.
WELL, NO, ACTUALLY I HAVE A BLUE ONE.
SO, UM, I, I HAVE MY, MY WHOLE PRESENTATION.
SO, UH, WE'RE GOING TO, RIGHT.
SO WE'RE GOING WITH, UM, THE, THE BIGGEST ONE, WHICH IS THE SALARIES, UM, INCREASING.
UH, WE ARE KEEPING UP WITH THE PACE, UH, COMPETITIVE PRICING.
WE ARE ALSO DEALING WITH INFLATION INFLATIONARY ADJUSTMENTS.
AND WE ARE BASICALLY CREATING THE SALARY FOR STAFFING AND, UM, UH, COMPETITIVE COMPENSATION.
I JUST WANNA SAY, I TOLD THE CONTROLLER THAT I'M ONLY GONNA INCLUDE IN MY BUDGET 2.9% INCREASES FOR EVERYBODY.
THAT'S GONNA BE CONSISTENT IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET.
WELL, THESE ARE THE DEPARTMENTAL REQUESTS.
EVEN IF IT'S A DEPARTMENTAL REQUEST, THAT'S GONNA BE MY BUDGET.
HOWEVER,
AND THE, THE BOARD COULD OBVIOUSLY, UH, DO WHATEVER THEY WANT.
UM, AND OF COURSE, UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, INTERMEDIATE CLERK,
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UM, I, THAT WAS A NEW INCREASE IN STAFFING.UM, AND THAT IS OFFSET WITH A SEASONAL PART-TIME CLERK.
AND THE INTERMEDIATE CLERK IS FROM THE UNION LIST.
AND WE ARE DISCUSSING RET STAFFING.
ARE YOU MEETING FROM SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE.
SO CAN I GET A PLUG? THAT'S ALL IN SALARY.
WHAT? THAT'S ALL IN IN SALARIES.
I NEED, DO YOU HAVE THE BLANK HERE? OH, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT KIND OF PLUG IS IT? I NEED A PLUG.
CAN YOU ASK SAM? 'CAUSE THIS IS, OH, I DON'T HAVE, I DON'T WANNA PULL IT OUT.
CAN SOMEBODY TAKE THAT? I'LL PLUG IT IN.
I SAVED THE DAY SHE USED HERS.
AND WE'RE GONNA HEAR ABOUT IT FOR THE REST OF THE DAY.
OKAY, SO THE NOTES ARE IN THE, NOW I LOST MY PEN.
SO, UM, THERE IS A, UH, $80,000, UH, 79,100 AND, UM, $160 INCREASE, UM, IN SALARIES.
AND AGAIN, THAT IS, UH, UH, BETWEEN MY INTERMEDIATE CLERK, SEASONAL PART-TIME AND RESTAFFING, UM, A FULL-TIME, UH, RECORDS MANAGEMENT, UM, PERSON FROM THE, UH, THE LIST.
UM, AND THIS OF COURSE IS, UH, AN INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY 19.51%.
AND THIS IS BASED ON OPERATIONAL.
ALL PERSONNEL COSTS WERE ONLY 19.51% INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR.
UM, UH, WE WANTED TO INCREASE OUR SERVICES EVEN MORE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN BRING IN MORE REVENUE.
SO WE WANTED TO DO MORE ADVERTISING.
AND ONE SUGGESTION WAS THAT, UM, WE ALREADY, UH, THE COST FOR THIS BOOK FOR PRODUCING AND PRINTING THIS BOOK IS ALREADY, UM, IN OUR BUDGET.
IT'S OUR BUDGET, EVEN THOUGH IT'S FROM PARKINSON RECORDS IN OUR BUDGET FOR PUBLIC PUBLICITY.
AND WE WANTED TO ADD TOWN CLERK SERVICES IN THIS CORNER MM-HMM
SO THAT WE CAN PROVIDE, UM, AGAIN, WHEN THIS IS ALSO ONLINE, ON THE WEBSITE, BUT SINCE WE DO PRINT, WE HAVE THIS COST INCLUDED.
WE, WE CAN INCLUDE THE TOWN CLERK SERVICES SO PEOPLE ARE AWARE OF WHAT MY OFFICE IS OFFERING.
AND, UH, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE MANAGING THE INCREASED COSTS THAT, UM, ARE ASSOCIATED WITH NEW YORK STATE COMPLIANCE.
SO NEW YORK STATE COMPLIANCE IS RE REGARDING OUR RETENTION AND OUR, UH, DISPOSITION SCHEDULE.
AND THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS OUR BIBLE FOR OUR RECORDS RETENTION.
SO THOSE, UM, BOXES AND ALL OF THOSE THAT WERE OUT OF PLACE, WE ARE NOW IN COMPLIANCE WITH, UM, PRIVACY, UM, AND ALSO MAKING SURE THERE'S, UH, UM, THE RECORDS ROOM IS SAFE AND, UM, NOT A, UM, UH, HAZARD.
SO AGAIN, THE, UH, CAFETERIA IS CLEANED UP.
UM, THOSE WERE ALL DOCUMENTED INPUT AND UH, AND, UH, ALL THE RETENTION AND THE STORAGE AND THE, AND DIGITIZING OF DOCUMENTS ARE ALL FALL WITHIN THE, UH, RETENTION AND DISPOSITION SCHEDULE WITH, UH, IT'S CALLED THE LGS ONE.
AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN GOING BY TO RET TO RETAIN AND TO DISPOSE OF RECORDS.
AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE COUNTY, UM, TO CALL, UH, TO BRING THE TRUCK TO, THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH ME EVEN THOUGH THEIR TRUCK IS BROKEN, THEY HAVE MADE SPECIAL PROVISIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING MORE SPACE BECAUSE THE FILES THAT ARE IN THE DEPARTMENTS, THEY'RE ING UP.
SO WE, IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DISPOSED OF THAT'S IN OUR RECORDS ROOM THAT HAS NOT BEEN ATTENDED TO,
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WE ARE NOW IN THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH THE ENTIRE ROOM AND MAKING SURE THAT, UM, IF IT'S DISPOSED OR IF IT'S KEPT, AND, UM, WORKING VERY, VERY CLOSELY WITH THE DEPARTMENTS AND THEY'VE BEEN ABSOLUTELY GREAT.UM, WE ARE ALSO TALKING ABOUT THE ADVERTISING JUST TO LET THE BE BENEFITS OF THE COMMUNITY KNOW.
UM, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, NEW YORK.
THERE'S AN INCREASE IN MY, UM, IN THE BUDGET FOR CONFERENCES AND SEMINARS.
WHAT'S THAT? WE WANT TO STAY WITH OUR MANDATED TRAINING.
WAIT, WHAT, WHAT'S THE AMOUNT? THE AMOUNTS, IT'S RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM.
IT'S RIGHT, IT'S HERE, RIGHT ON THE BOTTOM.
WHAT WENT 5,500 FROM 20 FROM 2300 TO 5,500.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE ASSOCIATION OF TOWNS.
UM, UM, CON, UH, CON, UH, CONVENTION ASSOCI ANNUAL MEETING, UM, THAT I, UM, VOLUNTEER TO, UH, REPRESENT THE TOWN, UM, TOWN COUNCIL AT THAT ASSOCIATION.
SO, UM, MANDATED TRAININGS, WORKSHOPS, CONVENTIONS.
WAS THE A-O-A-O-T ANNUAL MEETING IN THE CLERK'S BUDGET BEFORE, BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING IT INCLUDES IT AS IF IT DIDN'T INCLUDE IT BEFORE.
IT NEVER INCLUDED IT PRIOR YEARS, IT ONLY HAD $300 IN THERE.
I'M JUST WONDERING WHERE IT WAS.
IF IT WAS IN A BUDGET, IT WAS NOT UTILIZED.
IT WA IT WAS IN YOUR BUDGET BUT NOT UTILIZED ONLY $300.
NO, I'M JUST, I DON'T KNOW IF THE, THE BIGGEST, THE WAY THAT, THAT YOU PHRASED IT, I WAS JUST TRYING TO, IN 2024 IT WAS 3,400.
BECAUSE I HAD WENT TO, UM, I EVEN WENT TO ANOTHER, UM, UH, CONFERENCE.
BUT THESE ARE THE, THE, THOSE ARE THE THREE CONFERENCES BEFORE, I THINK YOU'RE SAYING THAT YOU SAID NOW INCLUDES THE A OT CONVENTION THAT NEVER WAS IN IT BEFORE.
WAS IT SOMEWHERE ELSE? OH, I DON'T KNOW.
I DO NOT KNOW WHO, WHO REPRESENTED THE TOWN COUNCIL.
I THINK THAT WHAT COUNCILWOMAN HENS IS SAYING SINCE YOU'VE BEEN YES.
WAS IT IN A DIFFERENT LINE ITEM? NO, THANK YOU.
SO, UM, WE CAN FIND OUT FROM KIMBERLY, WHERE DID WE PAY THE, UH, A OT BILL FROM BEFORE? KIMBERLY? I'LL HAVE TO LOOK THAT UP.
I CAN'T ACCESS IT WHILE I'M ON ZOOM, BUT I CAN LOOK IT UP AND GET BACK TO YOU.
THE BUT IT WAS, IT, IT PROBABLY SOMEPLACE ELSE.
SO IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT REALLY, LET ME EXPLAIN.
THERE'S A LINE ITEM FOR A OT ANNUAL FEES.
THERE IS A LINE ITEM AND I, IT'S NOT UNDER TOWN COUNCIL, BUT I'M, I'LL FIND IT IN A SECOND.
UM, BUT THE ACTUAL EXPENSES OF GOING, WHICH THERE'S A DIFFERENT, THERE'S A RESOLUTION TO APPOINT ME AS A REPRESENTATIVE AND THEN THERE'S A, UM, RESOLUTION TO, UH, UH, COVER THE EXPENSES.
SO, BUT THE A OT, WHICH IS 1950, WHICH IS FOR OUR MUNICIPALITY, UM, THAT IS FROM A LINE ITEM.
'CAUSE YOU'VE GOT MEMBERSHIP DUES AND THEN CONFERENCES, SEMINARS.
AND THE MEMBERSHIP DUES, THAT'S DIFFERENT.
THAT IS ALSO MY TOWN ASSOCIATION, UM, FOR, UH, CLERK FOR LOCAL ASSOCIATION AND STATE AND, AND IT IT IS IN HERE AND I'M SORRY, CLERKS ASSOCIATION OR SOMETHING? CORRECT.
WESTCHESTER PUTNAM, UH, TOWN CLERKS, WESTCHESTER PUTNAM TOWN CLERK CITY.
CITY AND TOWN CLERKS ASSOCIATION, AND ALSO THE NEW YORK STATE TOWN CLERK ASSOCIATION.
AND, BUT I'M GONNA, I, I'M SURPRISED I CANNOT FIND A OT RIGHT NOW.
AND OF COURSE THIS INCLUDES, UH, PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND THAT DOES INCLUDE WEBINARS THAT ARE GIVEN BY, UM, NEW YORK STATE, UM, ARCHIVES.
SO WE ARE ALSO DOING PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT IN OUR OFFICE.
AND, UM, AND UM, ALSO, UH, LOCAL RETREATS THAT I AM, I AM, UM, PARTICIPATING IN AGAIN WITH, UM, WITH THAT LINE OF PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE HAD, UM, INCREASED RESPONSIBILITIES WITH, UH, ELECTION MANAGEMENT, UM, WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
WE SERVICE THE MOST VOTERS IN THE COUNTY.
AND, UM, WE ONLY CAME IN SECOND TO THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS ITSELF, AND WE SERVICE 10,000 VOTERS DURING THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.
AND, UM, THE, BUT THE COUNTY REIMBURSES US, RIGHT? CORRECT.
UM, BUT I WAS JUST SAYING THE SERVICE CONTRACTS, IT'S 44,000.
IS THAT, IS THAT 44,000 GOING TO BE
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SUBSUMED INTO ABSORBED? YES, BECAUSE THAT IS FOR, AND I, I'M NOT, I'M GONNA SAY TYLER, I WANT TO SAY ICC AND THAT IS WHAT WE LASER FISH.YOU LIST THEM ALL IN THE NOTES.
SAY THAT AGAIN? YOU YOU LISTED THEM ALL IN THE NOTES HERE.
LASER FISH PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT LINE WHERE, UM, THE CONFERENCE AND SEMINARS WE DO.
I USE THAT, RIGHT? I USE THAT FOR MY MM-HMM
UM, WE HAVE STREAMLINED, UM, SEVERAL SERVICES SO THAT, UM, AGAIN, WE ARE DOING MORE, UM, DIGITALLY THAN WE ARE WITH PAPER, EVEN THOUGH THE LICENSES ARE, THEY'VE ACTUALLY WENT FULL PAPER.
UM, AND THE SOFTWARE AND LICENSES.
NOW WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT NUMBER TO SEE IF IT WENT UP OR DOWN.
I KNOW, RIGHT? UM, AND OF COURSE THE INCREASE AND THE INCREASED WORKLOAD BASED ON PUBLIC DEMAND.
AND WE ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YES.
SO THE ADVERTISEMENT, YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE ADVERTISEMENT.
SO YES, WE HAD ORDERED A BOARD, UM, AN ADDITIONAL PUBLIC NOTICE BOARD.
UM, BECAUSE WE, UH, WE WANT TO, WE WERE KIND OF SQUEEZING STUFF ON THE BOARD.
SO, UH, I WANTED TO INCLUDE THAT.
UM, SO WE NOW HAVE A BOARD FOR PUBLIC NOTICES FOR BOARD, UM, BECAUSE WE HAD SO MANY PUBLIC NOTICES, WHICH IS ALSO IN, IN MY, UM, BUDGET IS GOING UP BECAUSE WE'RE, WE HAVE MORE PUBLIC HEARINGS.
SO THAT MEANS MORE PUBLIC NOTICES.
AND SO YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S A BOARD HANGING IN YOUR OFFICE? WE'RE WAITING, WE'RE WAITING FOR IT TO BE HUNG BECAUSE OF THE WHERE WORK THAT, SO WHERE'S IT GONNA BE RIGHT NEXT TO THE OTHER SIDE? NO, NO.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO, I'M TRYING TO MM-HMM
OUTSIDE NEXT TO THE OTHER, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE, THIS WALL OF THE WALL.
AND, UM, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 'CAUSE I KNOW YOU'RE PRESSED FOR TIME BECAUSE, BECAUSE, OH, AND, AND AGAIN, WITH THE, UM, WITH THE ADVERTISING, UH, OF THAT BOOK, WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY HAVE TO ASK FOR EVEN MORE OF AN INCREASE.
CAN I JUST TELL YOU WHY I'M CONFUSED? BECAUSE IF YOU SAID THAT BOOK IS, AND YOU SAID THE PROJECTOR FOR 2025 WAS 2,500, BUT DIDN'T YOU GO DOWN TO 500? SO TO 26? BECAUSE WE, I'M SO CONFUSED.
WE PUT, UH, WE PUT THAT IN A, UM, IN ANOTHER LINE BECAUSE IT, IT'S FOR THAT, THAT, THAT PUBLICITY, IT WENT INTO ANOTHER LINE.
SO IT WENT INTO ANOTHER LINE ON YOUR BUDGET.
AND THAT LINE, YOU CAN SEE ON THE PAPER BUDGET THAT WAS PROVIDED BY THE, THE COMP CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.
THE SUMMER INTERNS YOU WENT FROM, I HAD ASKED NO.
SO IS THE CARD STAFF, RIGHT?
SO THE SUMMER INTERNS, THE ONLY REASON WHY IT WAS $25,000 IS BECAUSE WE RECEIVED $10,000 OF, UH, DONATIONS.
NOW, I HAD ASKED FOR AN INCREASE OF ONLY, UM, I WANNA SAY IT WAS 17 FIVE.
I THINK I ONLY ASKED FOR A 2000 INCREASE.
AND THAT WAS TO SATISFY 30 HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND 10 COLLEGE STUDENTS.
UM, BUT WITH THIS, THIS WAS PROBABLY GONNA MAKE IT GO DOWN TO 20, UM, 25 STUDENTS AND, UM, STILL 10 COLLEGE STUDENTS.
IS THERE A CAP? SO YOU ARE REDUCING IT, YOU MENTIONED THAT.
YOU'RE REDUCING THE NUMBER FROM 50.
SO WE'RE HAVING, SO WE'RE HAVING A CAP.
THERE, THERE'S DEFINITELY A CAP.
AND WE'VE, WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN, SO THE CAP, SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE DIVIDING IT UP FROM, IS IT IT'S GONNA BE AGAIN, MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS, HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS AND COLLEGE STUDENTS.
HIGH SCHOOL AND, UM, COLLEGE ONLY.
WHO WAS EIGHTH GRADE? I THOUGHT SOMEONE, I THOUGHT SOMEONE WAS TELLING ME YOU HAD MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENTS HERE AS WELL.
THEY WERE, NO, MY SON IS A MIDDLE SCHOOL STUDENT.
YEARS AGO WE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ON THE, UM, THE BOOKS, YOU KNOW, WITH THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS IT? UH, ACID FREE PAPER AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF TO STORE IT.
DO WE STILL HAVE THOSE BOOKS? ARE WE YES, WE DO.
ARE WE GONNA BE USING THEM? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
AND JUST A LITTLE TIDBIT OF INFORMATION, UH, WE HAD A FOIL THAT CAME IN, UM, AND IT HAD, WHERE'S OUR CHARTER? SO, UM, I WENT TO THE NEW YORK
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STATE ARCHIVES AND UM, I FOUND THE, I DOWNLOADED THE ORIGINAL NEW YORK STATE CONSTITUTION, UM, THAT RATIFIED NEW YORK STATE IN 1788.AND THEN
'CAUSE WE TOWN HALL, WE HAVE IT'S TOWN HALL.
AND THEN, UM, ON PAGE TWO IS THE
IT IS, UM, ACTUALLY IN CHAPTER BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, WHATEVER, UH, THE ACT OF DIVIDING THE COUNTIES OF THE STATE INTO TOWNS.
AND ON PAGE 54 IT SAYS FROM MOUNT, OH, HERE IT IS.
UM, WILLIAM DAVID TO THE ROAD LEADING TO WHITE PLAINS, WHICH WAS A TOWN.
UM, AND THEN EASTERLY ALONG THE FAME ROAD, SAME ROAD TO THE BRONX RIVER SHALL BE, AND HEREBY IS ERECTED TO A TOWN BY THE NAME OF GREENBURG.
SO THIS WAS AS CLOSE TO THE CHARTER
WELL WAIT ONE, ONE QUICK SECOND.
THAT WAS JUST FOLLOW UP ON YOUR QUESTION.
SO, SO WHERE IS THE PRICE? WHERE'S THE COST FOR, FOR THOSE BOOKS? WHERE YOU HAVE TO PUT IN THE, THE, ALL THE AGENDAS IS THAT, IS THE AGENDAS IN THE MINUTES AND WHATNOT.
OH, THAT, THAT COST, THAT IS IN, BECAUSE THAT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE A BIG COST.
IT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION, BUT BECAUSE WE ALREADY HAVE, WE ALREADY ORDERED THAT FROM LAST YEAR.
THAT'S WHY IT'S, IT'S ZERO BECAUSE THAT'S PUBLIC INFORMATION.
I THOUGHT WE HAD IT ON THE STATIONARY, OR, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHY IT WAS 1,150.
I, I KNOW THAT WE, I DON'T THINK WE PUT IT UNDER, UM, PUBLIC INFORMATION WHEN WE BOUGHT THOSE BOOKS.
'CAUSE IT'S, IT'S EVERYTHING IN THE CLERK'S OFFICE IS PUBLIC INFORMATION.
BUT THESE ARE SPECIALLY DESIGNED BOOKS FOR, FOR ARCHIVING.
FOR ARCHIVING TO LAST FOREVER.
UM, KIMBERLY, WE HAD, WE HAD BOUGHT IT AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
DO YOU RECALL? YEAH, I REMEMBER.
DO YOU RECALL WHAT, WHAT, UM, THE, UH, WHAT BUDGET LINE WE PUT IT UNDER? DO YOU REMEMBER? I, I REMEMBER THE, THE, I, I DON'T OFF THE TOP.
MAY I REMEMBER ORDERING THE BOOKS.
HOW MANY BOOKS A YEAR? UM, APPROXIMATELY FOUR TO FIVE.
TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE AND TO DISCUSS FINANCIAL EMPLOYMENT HISTORIES, A PARTICULAR PERSONS, AND TO INTERVIEW POTENTIAL APPOINT D TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION BOARD.
I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.