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TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.TODAY IS OCTOBER 21ST, UM, AFTER, UH, FIVE 30.
AND WE'RE STARTING WITH, UM, CONTINUATION OF THE PRELIMINARY DEPARTMENT BUDGET REQUESTS.
AND AS INDICATED, UH, THESE ARE JUST REQUESTS, UH, THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE MAKING, UH, WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT BE INCLUDED IN THE TENTATIVE BUDGET OR, UM, IN THE FINAL BUDGET.
BUT THE FIRST, UM, UM, PRESENTATION IS THAT THEATER, YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, UM, DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES.
CAN I JUST BRIEFLY STATE THAT COUNCILWOMAN HABER IS ATTENDING VIA ZOOM TONIGHT SINCE WE HAVE A PHYSICAL QUORUM AT TOWN HALL, WHICH WAS PUBLICLY NOTICED.
WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH STATE AND TOWN LAW.
IS KIMBERLY ON OR WILL BE JOINING US THAT WE KNOW? OKAY.
WAS SHE SUPPOSED TO BE? OH, RIGHT TO HER THAT I, I
I JUST THOUGHT SHE WOULD BE AS, AS THIS IS, UM, YOU ALL HAVE INFORMATION THAT I'M SURE SHE SUPPLIED YOU ALL WITH.
UM, AND, UH, I CAN RUN THROUGH THAT DIRECTLY.
I'D LIKE TO DO, GO DIRECTLY WITH THE BUDGET AT THIS TIME.
SO I KNOW TIME IS SHORT AND THIS CAN'T BE LEFT OUT ALL GOOD.
UM, TOUGH YEAR
AND, UM, IT, BUT WE HAVE GONE THROUGH AMAZINGLY WITH OUR TEAM.
UH, WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT BECAUSE OF, OF COURSE, WITH ONLY 24 FULL-TIME STAFF, WE ARE RUN BY PART-TIME, UM, STAFF MEMBERS.
AND THAT BE PART-TIME AND SEASONAL AS WE'VE STATED IN BEFORE.
YOU KNOW, UM, UH, THERE'S A LOT THAT WE DO IN THAT TIMEFRAME AND AS THINGS GET TOUGH, UH, IT WINDS UP BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE.
SO I HAVE ADDED, UH, LOOK FOR $23,000 INCREASE IN THE PART-TIME LINE AND A 40,000 IN THE PART-TIME SEASONAL.
ONE THING ABOUT THAT IS, UM, OUR SUMMER CAMP, WE KNOW THAT WE NEED, UM, UH, WITH THE STUDENTS THAT WE HAVE, WE ARE HAVING TO TRAIN THEM AT THE SAME TIME THEY ARE WATCHING KIDS AND WE REALLY NEED MORE STAFF TO DO IT.
SO THAT IS THE INCREASE THERE ALONG WITH OTHER THINGS.
BUT THAT'S A, THAT'S A MAJOR PIECE OF IT THERE.
UM, OUR EDUCATION LINE, WE HAVE, UH, ALMOST A HUNDRED KIDS IN OUR EDUCATION, OUR AFTER SCHOOL HOMEWORK HELP PROGRAM.
WE ARE ENTRENCHED IN DEFINITELY THE, THE GREENBERG SCHOOLS AS WELL AS M UH, ELMSFORD AND A LITTLE BIT INTO VALHALLA.
BUT OUR STAFF IS GOING THERE, TALKING TO TEACHERS, GETTING REPORTS ON HOW THE KIDS ARE DOING.
SO WE CAN GO BACK AND DIRECTLY GO WITH THERE.
OUR YOUTH DEVELOPMENT TEAM HAS DONE EXTREMELY WELL.
THOSE ARE THE THINGS IN THE 51 LINE.
UM, AND, UH, YOU KNOW, SPEAK TO THAT.
UM, DAVE REGINA, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER HERE, UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THANK YOU GUYS FOR, FOR YOUR TIME, UM, AND ALL THE SUPPORT, UH, THAT THE TOWN HAS PROVIDED FOR THE PAST YEAR.
UM, AND JUST TO ADD TO COMMISSIONER JACKSON'S COMMENTS ON THE OVERAGE, IT, IT SHOULD BE NOTED, UM, THAT WE DO RECEIVE GRANT FUNDING, UH, ABOUT 80,000 MILES.
UH, DAVE REGINA, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER HERE.
UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE ENTIRE TOWN BOARD, UM, AND TO REALLY ALL THE TOWN DEPARTMENTS THAT HAVE, UH, CONTINUED TO WORK WITH US THIS PAST YEAR.
UM, AND IN REGARDS TO THE OVERAGES FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCES THAT ARE REQUESTED, WE DO RECEIVE $80,000, UH, FROM WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
THAT IS NOT REFLECTED IN THIS, UM, JUST BECAUSE THAT GOES TO A, I GUESS A, A SEPARATE BUDGET.
UM, BUT 64,000 OF THAT IS ALWAYS RECOUPED, UM, JUST FOR OUR SEASONAL WORK THAT WE DO.
AND WE HAVE AN ADDITIONAL 16,000 COMING IN FROM AN SYEP PROGRAM, WHICH IS A SUMMER YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM.
UH, SO THOSE NUMBERS, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT, UH, THAT IT IS NOTED THAT THAT $80,000 DOES COME BACK TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, BUT IT'S NOT DIRECTLY REFLECTED INTO OUR BUDGET.
UM, JOY SAYS SHE CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
NO, I THOUGHT SHE JUST DROPPED OFF.
SO SHE TRIED TO TEXT ME, BUT I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW DIDN'T.
UM, SO YES, THAT WAS THE 51 LINES.
UM, THE 54 LINES ARE OUR PROGRAM LINES.
THESE ARE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE, UM, YOU CAN'T GO OVER IN
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THE 54 LINES.AND WE DO OUR BEST TORI AND GROUND FOR WHERE WE HAVE TO, FOR WHAT WE NEED.
UM, AND THERE ARE JUST A FEW THINGS THAT I DEFINITELY HAD TO PICK UP ON A LITTLE BIT FROM A BUDGETARY STANDPOINT.
UM, IT TOTALS, UH, 1, 1 50, BUT MOST OF THAT IS ACTUALLY FOR TRANSPORTATION.
WE ARE UP FOR A RENEWAL FOR THE TRANSPORTATION FOR SUMMER TRANSPORTATION, WHICH WE KNOW LAST YEAR WE ONLY HAD ONE GROUP PUT IN FOR IT.
WE ASKED FOR, WE DID THE, DID IT AGAIN, WE GOT A HIGHER NUMBER.
UM, SO WE DID 5% FOR THAT AS WELL AS, UH, FROM A PREVIOUS DISCUSSION WITH THE BOARD ABOUT RENTING, UM, A COACH BUS TO DO 30 TRIPS, UH, FOR OUR SENIORS GOING THOSE FAR DISTANCES AND ALL, UH, TO MAKE THAT BETTER.
AND THAT WAS THAT THE AMOUNT OF 50,000.
SO THAT IS THE LARGE INCREASE YOU MIGHT SEE UNDER 54 0 5 2, UH, FOR 2 0 7.
THAT'S THAT MAJOR INCREASE THERE.
UM, WHAT ABOUT THE PROGRAM ACT BA PROGRAM ACTIVITIES? PROGRAM ACTIVITIES IS A OVERALL LINE THAT, UM, KIND OF, WE PULL SO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS FROM, ESPECIALLY TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR WHEN SOME OF THE OTHER LINES MAY HAVE EATEN UP.
UM, DAVE EXPLAINING, UM, YEAH, THE, THE PROGRAM ACTIVITY LINE IS, UM, TYPICALLY OUR SLUSH FUND, I GUESS AS YOU CAN CALL IT, FOR OUR WOULDN'T CALL FOR 240 PROGRAMS, CALL IT THAT BASED ON THE DESCRIPTION.
NO, I MEAN, TO BE HONEST, WE, WE OPERATE WELL OVER 240 PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, AND SERVICES.
SO UNLESS WE WANT TO PUT A LINE ITEM, UM, FOR EACH ONE OF THESE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHY WE HAVE OUR MAIN SENIOR, UH, SENIOR PROGRAMS, OUR YOUTH DEVELOPMENT PROGRAMS, UM, THE SUMMER PROGRAMS, JOB TRAINING, ALL THOSE THAT YOU SEE THERE.
BUT WE OPERATE SO MANY MORE PROGRAMS THAN THAT, THAT THE ADDITIONAL MONEY DOES COME OUT.
CATCH THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD ONE.
LET ME, LET ME ASK ABOUT A YEAR AGO, UH, I HAD ASKED FOR LIKE A LIST OF ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU HAVE.
AND THE NUMBER OF PARTICIPANTS.
DO YOU, WERE YOU ABLE TO GIVE US LIKE AN UPDATED ONE TO YEAH, SO 2025, I, I'LL, I'LL JUST PUT THESE NUMBERS OUT.
UM, AND THESE ARE GENERAL NUMBERS, UM, BUT WE'VE HAD ABOUT 4,600 TOTAL PARTICIPANTS IN 2025.
UM, AND THIS IS ALL THROUGH OUR REC ONE, UM, SITTING IS THERE.
UH, BUT WE DID PULL THE, PULL THE NUMBERS BEFORE WE CAME.
SO WE HAVE ABOUT 3,500 OF THOSE PROGRAM PARTICIPANTS ARE RESIDENTS, UH, WHICH WOULD EQUATE TO 76% OF THEM.
WE'VE HAD APPROXIMATELY 1100 NON-RESIDENTS, WHICH EQUATES TO 24%.
UM, AND THEN OUT OF THOSE NON-RESIDENTS, APPROXIMATELY 700 FROM THE UNINCORPORATED AREA, WHICH IS WHAT YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT.
YEAH, I WAS LOOKING MORE, I THINK LAST YEAR YOU GAVE US LIKE A LIST OF EACH ACTIVITY.
WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO GET THAT BEFORE THE, THE END OF THE BUDGET? YES.
ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU, UM, YOU'VE ASKED BEFORE ABOUT PROGRAMS THAT THE NUMBERS MIGHT BE LOW.
IT'S ONE OF OUR MAJOR THINGS TO WATCH FOR IF IT RUNS TWICE, SURELY NOT MORE THAN THREE TIMES, AND WE CANNOT PICK UP THE, THE PARTICIPATION TO THE RIGHT LEVEL.
WE GOT ALL KINDS OF PROGRAMS THAT WE CAN DO, DEPENDING ON THE SPACE THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE IN.
SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE SOMETHING THAT HAS MINIMAL PEOPLE IN IT THAT'S COSTING US SOMETHING.
AND EVEN SOME OF THE PROGRAMS WE HAVE, WE EVEN CHANGED 'CAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR OR MORE NECESSARY.
SO LET, SO WHEN IT GO, FOR EXAMPLE, THE DAY CAMP 1 45 TO 55, UM, UM, THE SUMMER LUNCH 22, 500, 30,500.
UH, SO THAT'S BECAUSE YOU, YOU YOU SORT OF LIKE PUT IT IN, BUT IT, IT MAY BE USED FOR OTHER THINGS AS WELL.
SUMMER LUNCH WILL BE UTILIZED FOR SUMMER LUNCH.
UH, THE COST OF FOOD HAS GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, YOU KNOW, WE DID RUN INTO SOME ISSUES WHERE WE DID NOT HAVE ENOUGH FOOD FOR APPROXIMATELY 400 CAMPERS THIS YEAR.
UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY RESOURCE IS A VERY UNIQUE, UM, PLACE WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
UM, AND WE PROVIDE A SERVICE THAT IS UNHEARD OF IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF CAMPS THAT OPERATE THAT DO NOT PROVIDE THAT LUNCH.
UH, BUT WE FIND IT NECESSARY BECAUSE THERE IS AN, AN EXTREME NEED HERE IN GREENBURG.
UH, SO THAT'S WHY THAT REQUEST IS UP.
AND IF I MAY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THERE'S SO MANY OTHER PROGRAMS THAT RATHER THAN LIST THEM, THEY LUMP THEM ALL CORRECT INTO THIS.
IT'S NOT AS, AS, UM, THE DEPUTY COMMISSIONER INITIALLY SAID JOKINGLY, UM, IT'S NOT THAT, YES, IT'S NOT A, A FUND
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TO TAKE TO PUT TO OTHER THINGS, BUT IT JUST, IT'S A FUND THAT IN INCORPORATES ALL THOSE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT ARE NOT LISTED AND SOMETIMES THE PROGRAMS, I GOT THAT CORRECT.UM, THE, THE WORD SLUSH WAS NOT FOR THE FUND
WE, WE, AGAIN, TO BE VERY CLEAR, WE OPERATE OVER 240 PROGRAMS, ACTIVITIES, AND SERVICES.
AND ANYBODY THAT WANTS TO COME DOWN TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THOSE OFFERINGS ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO SO.
DO YOU GET, UH, FUNDING FROM FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR THE, UH, FOR LUNCH PROGRAMS? FOR THE LUNCH PROGRAMS? WE DO NOT.
SO ANY OF ANY, ARE YOU IMPACTED? HEY, CAN, CAN SOMEONE JUST CONFIRM THAT? I, I, YOU CAN HEAR ME? I HAVE YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
SO I, I, THERE'S THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, GET ANY FUNDS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, UH, NOT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, BUT FROM COUNTY GOVERNMENT, WHICH WAS THAT 80,000 THAT WE DISCUSSED EARLIER.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR NUTRITION PROGRAM THAT RUNS OUT OF THERE.
AND, UM, OTHER PIECES WITH CAP IN OUR BUILDING, ALSO THROUGH A COUNTY AND ALL RIGHT.
AND WE GET SOME GRANT MONEY FOR THE, UH, JOB TRAINING THAT IS ON THERE AS WELL.
UM, AND SOME REIMBURSABLE GRANTS THAT, THAT DO COME THROUGH THE TOWN.
UM, LET'S, ANY QUESTIONS ON THE, ON THE BUILDING SIDE? UM, DID HAVE TO PUSH UP THE HEAT DURING THE YEAR.
AND YOU ALL KNOW ABOUT HOW THAT'S BEING
YES, IT DID, BUT IT WA WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT WAS DOWN LAST YEAR AND WE HAD TO TRANSFER SOME FUNDS IN THERE.
IT JUST WASN'T PUT IN THE BUDGET LAST YEAR.
SO WE DEFINITELY MADE SURE WE GOT IT IN RIGHT.
IT MORE THAN DOUBLED THE BUDGET, BUT NOT MORE THAN DOUBLED THE ACTUAL COST FOR THE LAST YEAR.
UM, HAVE YOU ALREADY DISCUSSED THE TRANSPORTATION? YES, YES, WE DID.
UM, THEY, UH, UNDERSTOOD THAT.
AND YOU SAID IT WAS, GO AHEAD.
YOU EXPLAINED IT WAS THE 50,000 WAS FOR THE 30 RENTALS, UH, FOR THE TRIPS FOR THE, UH, 54 PASSENGER COACH BUSES.
AS WELL AS THE 5% INCREASE FOR THE, I'M SORRY, 5%, UH, INCREASE PO, WHICH IS POSSIBLE FOR THE, UH, NEW BID THAT WILL BE GOING OUT.
I CAN JUMP TO THE POOL IF WE ARE READY.
UM, HOW MANY EMPLOYEES DO YOU HAVE AT THE TD YCC NOW? PART-TIME, FULL-TIME.
AND HOW MANY DID YOU HAVE, SAY, LIKE 10 YEARS AGO OR WHATEVER? UH, WE'VE GONE DOWN ONE OR TWO.
TWO SINCE, SINCE I, SO 10 YEARS AGO.
YEAH, WE WERE, WELL, WE WERE WELL OVER 30 AT THAT TIME.
AND WHAT ABOUT PART-TIME? HAS THAT GONE UP OR PART-TIME? PART-TIME? YOU KNOW, KIND OF FLUCTUATES.
UH, BUT WE HAVE A ROSTER OF ABOUT 300 EMPLOYEES, UH, THROUGHOUT THE YEAR.
SUMMERTIME, IT'S A HUGE, AND THEN IT CAN STARTS TO MILL, GO DOWN AS WE, YEAH.
AND THAT'S ALSO THE OTHER THING WITH THE PART-TIME, RIGHT? LIKE, WE HAVE TO BE VERY CONSCIOUS, UM, THAT WE ARE HERE TO PROVIDE A RESOURCE.
UH, SO THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IS FOR ADDITIONAL JOBS THAT DO GO OUT WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UM, FOR YOUNGER INDIVIDUALS.
UM, AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY CENTER HAS ALWAYS PRIDED ITSELF ON AS WELL AS TOWN OF GREENBERG.
UH, SO WE HOPE THAT CONTINUES.
AND GINA AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON, UH, THE, UH, GS CONCERT SERIES, THE SIX.
THAT'S IN THE, THAT'S IN THE, UH, BUDGET, IN YOUR PROPOSED BUDGET, UH, OR IS THAT NOT ANYTHING YOU'VE DISCUSSED? AND AS YOU LOOK ON HERE, THERE IS NO LINE FOR JAZZ.
JAZZ IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD FALL OUT OF THAT PROGRAM ACTIVITIES.
SO THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE EDIT IF WE WANT TO PUT IN WELL, UH, WHEN WE GET TO THE END AND WE TALK ABOUT THAT.
I KNOW IF IT WAS COMING OUTTA YOUR BUDGET, IT WAS COMING OUTTA, UM, WELL, WE JUST SAID YOU ALREADY COMMITTED IT, SO YEAH.
SO YEAH, THAT SHOULD BE IN THE TYYC OR I-I-T-D-Y-C-C.
I WILL, I'M GONNA PUT A PAUSE THERE AND WE CAN GO BACK TO IT.
'CAUSE I HAVE SOME THINGS I HAVE TO SAY FROM OUR ADVISORY BOARD THAT WILL BE IMPORTANT.
BUT I DO JUST WANNA FINISH THIS HERE.
UM, AS ON THE FRONT, YOU SEE THE OVERTIME, UH, HAS BEEN PUSHED UP.
UH, AND THAT'S JUST BECAUSE IT'S NECESSARY.
WE'RE GOING OVER WHEN WE HAVE THESE KIND OF STORMS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THAT, WE WERE ABLE TO TURN THAT BUILDING AROUND THAT HAD SIX INCHES OF WATER IN THE TOTAL FRONT, UH, BOTTOM FLOOR, UH, IN TWO DAYS AND GET CAMP STARTED AGAIN.
BUT IT'S ONLY, UH, OVERTIME FROM OUR STAFF AND DPW, WHICH THREW IN OVERTIME AS WELL THAT MADE THAT HAPPEN.
SO WHAT LINE? I NEED HIM MISS THAT.
UH, B 73 25, UH, 5 1 808 0 800.
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ONE.OH, THEY HAVE A DIFFERENT SHEET.
OH, IT LOOKS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT IT SAYS, IT SAYS OVERTIME ON THE, AND IT'S ON THE VERY FRONT SHEET, WHETHER YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE POOL OR T-D-Y-C-C.
AND IT IS 1, 2, 3, 4, ALL THE WAY ON THE LEFT.
DOES IT SAY B 73, 10 OR 20 ALL THE WAY ON THE LEFT OF YOUR SHEET? TEN SEVEN SEVENTY.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT SHEET THAT WAS FORWARDED HAD THE 73 20 FROM KIMBERLY.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHY I WAS, YEAH, I'M LOOKING FOR, UM, SHE SENT US VIA EMAIL WITH THAT ONE.
UM, HERE YOU WANNA TAKE A LOOK? WE'RE ONLY DOING AN INCREASE OF, WHAT'S THAT? 5 4500, BUT WE FIND IT NECESSARY FOR SURE.
UH, PART-TIME ON THE POOL LINE THAT IS SPECIFIC PRETTY MUCH TO OUR LIFEGUARDS.
AS YOU KNOW, THERE'S A MAJOR LIFEGUARDS SHORTAGE, WHICH BROUGHT THE PRICE WAY UP.
WE ARE CURRENTLY AT, HOW DO WE PAY? UH, WE'RE LOWER THAN EVERYBODY ELSE.
AND DO YOU HAVE ANY MORE COCKTAILS? PEOPLE ARE GETTING, UM, THIS STUFF, SO IF YOU MISSING SOMETHING, EVERYTHING SHOULD BE FLIPPED.
IT'S NOT, YEAH, I DON'T THINK ON THAT DOCUMENT.
SO JUST FLIP THAT PAGE THOUGH.
AND IT SAYS PULL UP AT THE TOP.
UM, YEAH, THERE WERE PEOPLE OUT THERE GETTING $25 AN HOUR AND ALL, AND IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO GET FULL STAFF AND ALL.
SO THE STAFF WE HAD WAS DOING A LOT OF OVERTIME AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THAT REALLY PUSHED UP THE NUMBER.
UM, DON'T KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO.
AND WE HAVE A, UM, UM, A RAISE IN MINIMUM WAGE THAT'S GOING IN, I BELIEVE AS WELL.
AND THEN ALSO TO THAT, PAUL, I, I'D LIKE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE, WE HAD PREVIOUSLY DONE AN ANALYSIS, UM, I BELIEVE A COUPLE CONSTITUENTS WANTED US TO OPEN THE BUILDING A LITTLE BIT EARLIER.
UM, AND IT WAS AN INCREASE OF EITHER LIKE 50 OR $60,000 ANNUALLY TO OPEN JUST ONE HOUR PRIOR.
UM, SO THIS IS NOT INCLUDED IN THAT, THIS IS IN ADDITION JUST FOR US TO OPERATE AS SUCH.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT TIME YOU ARE OPEN AND WHAT TIME YOU WERE ASKED TO OPEN? YEAH, SO I THINK THE PROPOSAL WAS 6:00 AM UM, WE CURRENTLY HAVE OUR MAINTENANCE TEAM THERE READY TO GO AT 6:00 AM BUT THAT MEANS THAT THE BUILDING HAS TO OPEN BY SEVEN O'CLOCK JUST DUE TO SAFETY PROCEDURES AND PROTOCOLS.
SO THAT'SS, HOW, HOW WE'RE USED TO FIVE.
IT USED TO BE, IT USED TO BE FIVE AND THEN SIX O'CLOCK OPEN.
WE'LL CIRCLE BACK AROUND AFTER YOU GO THROUGH THE BUDGET AS TO WHY THEY WERE MAKING THAT REQUEST.
THERE'S A BUNCH OF SWIMMERS WHO, UH, LIKE EARLY MORNING, UH, SWIMMING, LISTEN, I GUESS WE WON'T BE CERTAIN WE
I, I, UH, EMBODY HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
PAUL, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE STRUGGLED WITH CROHN'S DISEASE MY WHOLE LIFE.
UM, WE, WE LOVE THE INITIATIVE.
HOWEVER, WE WOULD HAVE TO INCREASE THE BUDGET TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
AND I'M NOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SURE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET THE LIFEGUARDS THAT WE NEED AND, UM, MAINTENANCE STAFF TO BE READY TO GO THAT FAST IN THE MORNING AND, AND WHAT WE HAVE TO BE CONSCIOUS OF, RIGHT? LIKE TO OPEN, YOU CAN'T JUST OPEN THE POOL.
YOU HAVE TO OPEN THE ENTIRE BUILDING.
SO YOU KNOW, YOU NEED SOMEBODY AT THE FRONT DESK, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL COST.
YOU NEED MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS AN ADDITIONAL, ADDITIONAL COST.
SO IT'S NOT JUST LIKE ONE LIFEGUARD CAN POP IT OPEN AND THEN HEY, JUMP IN THE POOL.
HAVE YOU, UM, HAD DIFFICULTIES GETTING LIFEGUARDS? YES.
UH, COULD I, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, I HAD, YOU KNOW, I BRING THIS UP EVERY YEAR IS, UM, IS BASICALLY, UM, HAVING THE AQUATICS PROGRAM, UM, AT FOR PARKS AND THE THEATER, YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, MORE SHARING, BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THAT THE TOWN POOL, YOU KNOW, AT VETERAN PARK, THEY'VE HAD PROBLEMS GETTING LIFEGUARDS, YOU KNOW, ALSO, AND MAYBE IF THE LIFEGUARDS COULD MOVE AROUND BASED ON NEED, WE, WE DO.
BUT INEVITABLY BOTH OF US ARE SHORT, SO THEY CAN'T SPARE MANY PEOPLE.
WE BECOME A HUB, UH, FOR TRAINING LIFEGUARDS THROUGHOUT WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
WESTCHESTER COUNTY LIFEGUARDS, THEY COME IN, UM, EVERY WEEKEND AND THEY UTILIZE OUR POOL.
SO WE HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THEIR NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS AND ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS, RIGHT? AND THEY, UH, THEY, THEY ALLOW US TO UTILIZE LIFEGUARDS.
THIS IS NOT JUST A, UH, A GREENBERG SHORTAGE HERE.
AND THEN WHEN OUR RATE IS SOMETIMES CONSIDERABLY LOWER, WHERE THEY GO IS A QUESTION.
BUT THE OTHER THING WE'RE DOING, WE'RE TRAINING, AS THEY'VE JUST SAID, TRAINING A LOT OF LIFEGUARDS.
AND I'M TALKING KIDS THAT STARTED IN OUR, UH, MOMMY AND ME SWIM CLASS ALL THE WAY THROUGH.
EVEN ON FRIDAYS WHEN THERE'S NO, UH, HOMEWORK GIVEN, UH, FOR THE KIDS, OUR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM, WE HAVE A WAY TO GET THOSE KIDS INTO THE WATER AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THEM TRAINED.
I HAVE SOMEONE THAT IS, UM, UH, READY TO DONATE SOME MONEY
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TO THOSE THAT MAY NOT HAVE IT TO BE, UH, DO DO A SWIM PROGRAM AND ALL.SO WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD IT RIGHT FROM WITHIN.
WHAT ELSE? UH, THERE'S NO, THE DEPUTY HAS TO SAY THAT.
HE HAS TO SAY, I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT,
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BUDGET FOR PROGRAMMING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT AT THE MOMENT? SO I'LL ADD, YOU KNOW, THE $30,000 FOR THE JAZZ CONCERTS TO THE BUDGET, BUT Y'ALL STILL LOOK FOR, UH, GRANTS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, IF WE, THIS WAY AT LEAST WE PAUL PAUL PAUL, CAN YOU WAIT FOR, UH, THE COMMISSIONER TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT WHAT HE SAID BEFORE.
HE HAD SOME IMPORTANT THINGS TO DISCUSS ABOUT THE JAZZ FEST AND INFORMATION FROM THE ADVISORY BOARD.
SO CAN WE HAVE HIM DISCUSS THAT PLEASE? I, I, I'D ACTUALLY LIKE TO GO RIGHT THERE NOW SINCE, UH, IT'S A HOT IDEA.
THE SUPERVISOR HAS $30,000 IN DISCRETIONARY FUNDS.
WELL, THE, THAT, THAT'S GREAT.
I MEAN, THIS IS WHAT HE'S BEEN PROMISED.
SO, UM, WE'RE EXCITED ABOUT HERE, HERE, HERE'S, HERE'S THE PIECE.
UM, DOING THOSE PROGRAMS PUTS A LOT ON THE CENTER.
AND AS I TALKED ABOUT OUR SUMMER PROGRAM AND THE KIDS WE HAVE AND THE HELP THAT WE NEED, UM, JUMPING INTO SIX WEEKS IMMEDIATELY, I FEEL IS, UM, NOT THE BEST AND SMARTEST THING TO DO FROM A SAFETY STANDPOINT, UM, LET ALONE A FINANCIAL STANDPOINT.
EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE GIVING THAT MONEY, THINGS JUST ALWAYS COME THROUGH.
IN TALKING THROUGH THIS AND WITH OUR ADVISORY BOARD AND OUR LIAISON, UH, THEY HAD PLANNED TO HAVE A, A LETTER READY FOR THIS EVENING, BUT, UM, THE ONE WRITING IT GOT SICK AND UNFORTUNATELY CALLED ME TO SAY, I CAN'T HAVE THE LETTER READ, BUT YOU WILL GET IT.
BUT THEIR RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL IS THREE TO DO THREE THURSDAY NIGHT JAZZ.
WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE PROPER WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT THINGS ARE GOING WELL, NOT SPEND TOO MUCH MONEY.
UM, I CAN SPLIT THAT IN HALF TO THE 15,000 AND MAKE THAT WORK.
WHAT THURSDAYS WE WANT TO PICK OUT OF THE SIX, UH, UP TO YOU
YOU ENVISION? I WOULD THINK SO EVERY OTHER WEEK.
THE ONLY THING ABOUT THAT IS PEOPLE GET CAUGHT UP WITH, OH, WHEN IS IT HAPPENING? WHAT IS IT HAPPENING? I KNOW, UH, SOMEBODY, I WAS DRIVING MY CAR AND THEY WERE ON THE SIDE OF THEIR ROAD SAY, HEY, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN IS THE FAMILY DAY OF JAZZ HAPPENING THIS YEAR? AND I SAID, YOU MEAN THAT SIGN RIGHT THERE? THAT ONE, YEAH.
WE TOOK OUT TWO BUS SHELTER ADS TO TRY AND DO THAT THIS YEAR.
AND MAYBE IT DID HELP 'CAUSE WE HAD A GREAT TURNOUT, BUT WHEN IT'S, OUR FEELING WAS WHEN IT'S THAT ONE, PEOPLE KNOW, I, I BETTER GET THERE IF I WANNA SEE IT.
MAYBE YOU CAN MAKE THE THIRD THURSDAY OF THE MONTH, YOU KNOW, JUNE, JULY, AUGUST, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE, UH, JUNE CAN BE TRICKY, BUT THAT'S POSSIBLE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, PLEASE.
SO, UM, I THINK THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS JUST A LITTLE PREMATURE AND ONLY REASON WHY, 'CAUSE WE HAVE NOT MET WITH THE VENDOR I HAD TALKED TO YOU ABOUT, AND WE TALKED ABOUT HAVING A MEETING SO WE CAN ALL BE AT THE TABLE AND TALK ABOUT MOVING FORWARD AND HOW WE, HOW THESE JAZZ FESTIVALS ARE GOING TO LOOK.
SO I REALLY BELIEVE IF YOU GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY MM-HMM
SO WE CAN SET A MEETING UP, I THINK WE CAN COME AND HAVE A CONVERSATION BECAUSE A LOT OF THE LIFT THAT WAS DOING THAT WAS HAPPENING LAST YEAR, YOU WON'T HAVE TO DO AS MUCH, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, I CAN'T THINK OF THE NAME OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT I THINK OF THE FOLKS NAME, ARTISTIC DESIGN, I'LL CALL THEM RIGHT NOW.
BUT, SO I THINK HONESTLY, RIGHT NOW, THIS CONVERSATION, THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE ARE HAVING RIGHT NOW IS PREMATURE.
SO IF WE COULD, WE CAN GET A MEETING GOING, WE CAN GET A ZOOM GOING, PUT EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM AND WE CAN HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND THEN WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE PLANNING STAGES.
THIS IS WHAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT BEFORE.
SO I WASN'T, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT PAUL MET PAUL AND I MET WITH, WELL I KNEW THEM, I INTRODUCED THEM TO PAUL, UM, AND HE COMMITTED THE FUNDING.
WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THEY, WHAT THEY WERE LOOKING TO DO AND WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING AND STUFF.
WE ALSO KNEW THERE WAS OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE TO DO ON MY END, BUT AGAIN, WE'RE JUST NOT READY TO HAVE THIS PARTICULAR CONVERSATION TODAY.
SO IF WE CAN WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK, IF WE CAN SIT DOWN AND SCHEDULE SOMETHING WITH EVERYBODY AND WE DO A ZOOM, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BETTER.
BUT I JUST THINK THIS CONVERSATION'S PRETTY MUCH VERY HAPPY TO DO THAT.
AND ALL I WAS DOING WAS GIVING YOU INFORMATION FROM MY ADVISORY BOARD ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAD AT THE TIME.
BUT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I WAS SAYING.
THAT'S WHY I WAS SAYING WE J WHEN YOU, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, I BELIEVE IT WAS FRIDAY NIGHT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT IT, I WAS LIKE, THERE'S THINGS THAT WE NEED TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH.
SO TO PUT IT OUT HERE NOW, I THINK THERE'S MORE CONVERSATIONS THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD.
THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING I BELIEVE THAT THIS, THIS,
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HOLD ON, PAUL, THIS DISCUSSION IS JUST A LITTLE PREMATURE.AND I KNOW I WANTED TO GO IN FRONT OF, AND WE WANTED TO GO IN FRONT OF THE ADVISORY BOARD BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING WITH THEM AS WELL.
BUT AGAIN, BEFORE LETTERS DRAFT OR ANYTHING, I THINK THEY NEED TO HEAR FROM US, FEAR FROM US FIRST FAIR BEFORE THIS COMMENT.
AND THE ONLY THING YOU KNOW THAT I WANNA SAY IS, YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME I'M AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER OR TALKING TO PEOPLE, PEOPLE REALLY LOVE THAT SIX WEEK, YOU KNOW, SERIES.
I WENT PRACTICALLY TO EVERY CONCERT FOR LIKE YEARS FOR, YOU KNOW, MOST OF MY CAREER AS PUBLIC OFFICIAL AND REALLY WAS A HIGHLIGHT.
AND I FEEL THAT IT BRINGS PEOPLE FROM THE COMMUNITY TO THE CENTER.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE REALLY APPRECIATE.
AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE 25% OF THE PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY WHO ARE USING THE CENTER.
BUT THE THING IS, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOVE.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, GINA IS CORRECT.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHY WE SHOULD DO IS WE SHOULD HAVE, UM, LIKE A MEETING WHERE, YOU KNOW, GINA AND MYSELF, WE COULD MEET WITH ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WE COULD, I I MEAN AS THE LIAISON PAUL, YOU COULD, YOU COULD ALSO EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD.
EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD WHO'S INTERESTED.
NO, NOT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD.
NO, BUT I'M SAYING ANYBODY ON THE BOARD WHO'S INTERESTED IN THIS SURE.
SHOULD HAVE, SHOULD HAVE, UH, SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEN, UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION.
AND THEN ALSO I, YOU KNOW, I COULD WORK ON SEEING IF I COULD GET PRIVATE GRANT DOLLARS AND, YOU KNOW, IF I'M NOT SUCCESSFUL, YOU KNOW, THEN IT'S MY PROBLEM.
I MEAN, AGAIN, AGAIN, I THINK, I THINK PAUL, I THINK EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS, AND JUST IN REFERENCE TO THE TIMING, I THINK EVERYONE, I THINK AGAIN, WE JUST ALL NEED TO GET IN THE ROOM AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.
I THINK THAT, AGAIN, WE JUST, THINGS THAT JUST NEEDED TO BE WORKED ON.
WE NEEDED TO GET, WE, WE GOT YOUR BUY-IN.
THEN WE NEED TO BRING EVERYBODY TO THE TABLE.
WE'VE, WE'VE, I'VE HEARD THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, HOW THEY WANTED TO BRING THE SERIES BACK.
WE'RE WORKING, WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
AND THEN WE'RE WORKING WITH, UM, MEMBERS FROM THE COMMUNITY ACTUALLY WHO, UM, HAS REALLY INVESTED TIME AND ENERGY IN PREVIOUS YEARS FOR THE JAZZ FEST.
I THINK LEMME JUST ASK A QUESTION IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET, BECAUSE I, UH, KIMBERLY WANTS ME TO FINALIZE WHAT I SUBMIT TO HER IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS.
SO THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU WANT ME, UH, JUST, YOU KNOW, FOR A PLACE, YOU KNOW, WE COULD ALWAYS, IT'S GONNA BE MODIFIED.
WOULD YOU PREFER THAT I INCLUDE 30,000 OR 15,000? 30,000? THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT EXACTLY WHAT? NO, THE CONVERSATION WE HAD THE CONVERSATION YOU AGREED TO, TO, FOR THAT AMOUNT.
AND I JUST, AS I WOULD SAY, THANK YOU, UM, NOW WE'LL TALK, WE'LL TALK MORE ON THAT AT ANOTHER TIME.
UM, CAN I JUMP TO MY NEXT YES PIECE? ALRIGHT.
THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE, UM, UH, HYBRID BUS THAT WE DEFINITELY WANT TO PURCHASE.
I WILL TELL YOU, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT ON WHAT I JUST HANDED YOU.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND PAGE, THAT'S ALL.
I MADE IT EVEN MORE CONCISE FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND.
BUT THE SHORT PART IS, IT HAS BEEN DIFFICULT TO SOURCE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
SO TERRENCE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? WE ARE LOOKING FOR A HYBRID BUS, SCHOOL BUS OR IF I CAN CHARTER TYPE BUS, BUT A BEELINE BUS, AN MTA BUS, THOSE CITY BUSES AS YOU WILL READ HERE.
AND THIS INFORMATION IS FROM OUR, UH, FOREMAN, UH, IN THE YARD WHO HAS BEEN DOING THIS INFORMATION AND WE'VE BEEN TEXTING BACK AND FORTH WITH EACH OTHER.
AND THIS IS A GREAT SYNOPSIS THAT HE'S DONE.
AND REALLY THE INFORMATION THAT'S OUT THERE IS NOT, UM, VERY STRONG.
THEY, THE COMPANIES ARE PULLING BACK ON A LOT OF THINGS.
AND RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOT LARGE BUSES.
YOU ALL KNOW I WANTED A 40, BUT IT'S JUST NOT THERE.
AND I'M WILLING TO GO BACK A LITTLE BIT BECAUSE MY FLEET'S GETTING OLDER AND WE'LL GET SOMETHING THERE.
UM, BUT IT'S JUST BEEN DIFFICULT THIS TIME.
WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA KEEP WORKING.
HE HAD, HE CAME UP AS YOU'LL SEE, UH, ON THE BIG PAPER WITH ANOTHER POSSIBILITY THAT HE COULD, JOY AND I WERE TALKING TODAY A POSSIBILITY THAT WE CAN LOOK INTO, BUT I'M JUST TRYING TO TELL YOU IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT THUS FAR.
JUST WE SHOULD BE MORE A LITTLE MORE SPECIFIC WITH WHAT EXACTLY WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE'RE LOOKING FOR A HYBRID, NOT AN ELECTRIC, BECAUSE AN ELECTRIC WON'T GO THE DISTANCE FOR THOSE LONGER TRIPS.
SO WE NEED A HYBRID AND WE'RE TOOK LOOKING AT THE 32 TO 38 PASSENGER RANGE.
UM, WHICH AS, AS, AS TARA POINTED OUT, IS DIFFICULT.
UM, I, FIRST I PUT IN MY, UH, MY OWN PHONE CALL DELIVERY LINE, WHO, WHO,
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UM, IS WHO THE ELON BUSES ARE PURCHASED FROM.UM, AND I'M TRYING TO GET SOME INFORMATION MYSELF.
I, THEY HAPPEN TO BE BASED IN, IN THE RIVERTOWN, SO I KNOW THAT THE OWNERS THERE AND I THOUGHT MAYBE I COULD HAVE, YOU KNOW, GET A LITTLE FURTHER WITH THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT THEY MAY HAVE AVAILABLE.
BUT THERE IS STILL, UH, THE ISSUE OF GETTING THE KIND OF BUS THAT IS NEEDED, NOT JUST FOR RENTALS, BUT ACTUALLY HELPING TO REPLACE, YOU KNOW, PARTS OF THE FLEET.
WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT ONE OTHER, UH, SMALLER BUS THAT MAY NEED TO BE REPAIRED, UH, THAT HAD LEAKAGE OR WHATEVER.
SO, UM, THAT'S A 20 PASSENGER BUS.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING ALL THAT.
HAVE YOU LOOKED INTO REPURPOSED BUSES? ALSO USED
CERTIFI, CERTIFI PRE-OWNED COMES WITH PRE-OWNED PROBLEMS IS WHAT I WAS TOLD BY JOE AND A NUMBER OF OTHER PEOPLE.
IF THEY'RE GETTING RID OF BUSES, THERE'S A REASON.
AS YOU READ IN HERE AS WELL, THE SCHOOL BUSES THAT WERE MADE WERE MADE FROM 2008 TO I BELIEVE 2015, 18.
AND THEY'VE STOPPED MAKING THEM AT THIS TIME.
THEY STOPPED MAKING SCHOOL BUSES.
THEY THE, THE HYBRID SCHOOL BUSES AT THIS TIME? NO.
HYBRID THEHY HYBRID SCHOOL BUSES.
UM, AND, AND IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT NEW TECHNOLOGY AND ALL THAT.
THEY'RE HAVING THEIR LITTLE PROBLEMS, THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.
AND, UM, IT'S JUST, IT'S, IT'S STILL A QUESTION ON SOME OF THEM AND RANGE IS STILL ALWAYS AN ISSUE.
THE HYBRID ONE'S NOT AS MUCH, BUT IT DOES FALL IN.
I MEAN WE'RE NOT EVEN CONSIDERING ELECTRIC 'CAUSE WE KNOW THAT'S OUT THE QUESTION, RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT.
I THINK THAT WE'VE BEEN PRETTY MUCH ON THAT YEAH.
HYBRID, UM, TRACK FOR QUITE A WHILE.
DON'T, DON'T COMPLICATE YOUR LIVES ANYMORE THAN YOU NEED TO.
SO WHY ARE WE GOING BACK TO SCHOOL BUSES? 'CAUSE I THOUGHT WE WERE, THIS IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FOR SENIORS AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR THE, WE'RE TRYING TO DO, AS I TALKED ABOUT THAT KIND OF COACH BUS, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
NOT TOTALLY FINDING IT IN THE WAY THAT WE NEED IT.
UM, SO WE JUST SAID, SINCE WE'RE DOING THIS RESEARCH, WE'RE RESEARCHING EVERYTHING.
I, MY UNDERSTANDING CONCERN IF WE'RE I GET CONCERNED IS I GET THAT YOU'RE RESEARCHING EVERYTHING.
BUT IF WE'RE LOOKING FOR A PARTICULAR BUS FOR OUR SENIORS MM-HMM
WHY WOULD SCHOOL BUSES BE AN OPTION IF THEY'RE NOT? 'CAUSE WE CAN RETROFIT THEM, WE CAN PUT IN DIFFERENT CHAIRS, DIFFERENT SEATS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
I DIDN'T, I DIDN'T, OKAY, HOLD ON.
SO I JUST TRYING TO FIGURE UP NOW.
SHE JUST MADE ME MY QUESTION JUST WENT OUTTA MY HEAD.
SO FOR THOSE LONGER SENIOR TRIPS, THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING RENTALS.
'CAUSE WE CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY THAT LEVEL OF COMFORT OF US.
SO THAT'S WHY THERE'S THE $50,000 IN THE BUDGET FOR THE RENTALS, FOR THE SENIORS, FOR THE LONGER TRIPS.
IN ADDITION, IT HAS TO BE SUPPLEMENTED WITH SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BUY THAT WE HAVE THIS, THE GRANT FOR.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
WHAT WE CAN BUY WITH THE AMOUNT THAT WE HAVE THAT IS ACTUALLY AVAILABLE.
IT'S NOT GONNA, YOU KNOW, TAKE TWO YEARS TO GET I I I AND I GUESS I MY UNDERSTANDING, SO CORRECT ME 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT IS A DIFFERENT SCENARIO WAS THAT THE RENTALS WERE UNTIL, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
SUCH TIME AS YOU GOT THE NEW BUS, NOT AS A SUPPLEMENT EVEN WITH THE NEW BUS.
NO, I THOUGHT IT WAS IN, I THOUGHT IT WAS UNTIL WE GET THE BUS.
WHAT I, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
ALL THREE OF US WAS UNDER AN IMPRESSION OF THAT.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CHANGED.
WELL THE REASON THAT THAT CAN'T BE IS BECAUSE TO PURCHASE A HYBRID BUS IS SIX TO $800,000 IS MONEY THAT, THAT WE DON'T REALLY HAVE.
AND WE AGREED THAT, AND I DON'T, I GUESS IT DID GET CONFUSING AT SOME POINT.
BUT WHEN YOU RENT, WHEN WE RENT THE BUS, THAT'S THE DRIVER.
THE BUS, THE, THE GAS, THE EVERYTHING, IT'S, IT'S ALL TOGETHER.
IF IT BREAKS DOWN, THEY, I KNOW THE, MAKE SURE THEY GO GET THE PEOPLE.
AND, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THOUGHT WAS THAT THE 800,000 WAS FOR THE ELECTRIC BUS, BUT THE HYBRID WAS LESS.
SO NOW YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE HYBRID IS DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF BUS.
THOSE BUSES WE WERE LOOKING AT WERE THE BIG KIND OF CITY BUSES AND ALL THAT STUFF, WHICH HAVE THEIR OWN PROBLEM.
THEY'RE TOO BIG FOR US TO GET WHERE WE NEEDED TO GO.
A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES THERE.
UM, UH, WE ARE LOOKING FOR EVERYTHING THAT WE NEED THAT THE BUSES THAT WE'RE ABLE TO, THAT WE ARE RENTING, THEY ARE 56 PASSENGERS I BELIEVE.
50 A LOT OF SENIORS TO THE SHOWS THAT THEY WANT TO GO AND ALL THAT.
THOSE ARE THE BIG ONES THAT THEY WANT TO DO.
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SOMETHINGIT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REAL DIFFICULT.
'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT AT THE TIME, GOING BACK TO WHEN YOU GOT THE GRANT, UM, WHEN WE GOT THE GRANT WAS A 40 PASSENGER BUS.
I NOW IT'S GONE UP TO HAVING MORE PASSENGERS.
UH, AND ONE THING THAT ALSO CAME UP WITH THAT, THANK YOU.
IT'S A HYBRID WITH DIESEL, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO DO.
AND, AND BECAUSE THE 40 PASSENGER IS SO BIG GOING UP HILLS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IT NEEDS THAT EXTRA POWER.
WELL, I I GUESS I WAS TALKING ABOUT THAT FIRST BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID YOU'RE GONNA RENT 56 PASSENGER BUSS, SO MM-HMM
I WAS TRYING TO DETERMINE WHETHER YOU NEEDED A 40 PERSON BUS OR WELL REMEMBER THIS 30 PERSON BUS OR A 30 56 PERSON BUS.
THIS IS 30 TRIPS AT THIS CONFUSING.
THAT'S NOTHING COMPARED TO WHAT WE DO.
BUT DO YOU NEED A 56 PASSENGER? WE WOULD NOT PURCHASE A 56 PASS, A 54 PASSENGER BUS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PURCHASING 30 OR 40 PASSENGER WE WOULD PURCHASE.
AND BUT YOU HAVE TO RENT 56 6 PASSENGER BUSES IN ADDITION.
THE ONE PIECE THAT I THINK IS MISSING, WE'VE GOT OTHER PROGRAMS. THE SPECIFIC ONE, WHICH IS THE THEATER TRIP FOR US AS WELL AS PARKS AND REC IS FOR THE THEATER TRIPS FOR THAT IT BEING SO BIG, IS TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE ONTO THE TRIP AS WE CAN.
WE'RE ESTIMATING 30 TRIPS CAN DO THAT.
WE BELIEVE THAT SPECIFIC GROUP WILL BE PRETTY HAPPY.
BUT EVERYTHING ELSE THAT WE DO AND ALL THE TRIPS THAT WE GO ON, THAT'S STILL GONNA BE WITH OUR CURRENT BUSES.
AND IF WE, WHEN WE GET A HYBRID BUS OF GOOD SIZE, THAT WILL BE PULLED RIGHT INTO THE FLEET.
BUT I, I'M JUST LOOKING FOR A SO I HEAR EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO CURRENTLY A LOT OF INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT ABLE TO GO ON OUR TRIPS BECAUSE WE DO NOT HAVE ENOUGH SPACE FOR THE THEATER CLUB TRIP.
WE HAVE APPROXIMATELY 20 INDIVIDUALS ON A WAIT LIST THAT ARE NOT ABLE, BECAUSE WE'RE AT A 40 PASSENGER, ALTHOUGH WE WOULD PURCHASE THE 40 PASSENGER.
WHAT THIS RENTAL ALLOWS US TO DO IS TO INCLUDE A LOT MORE INDIVIDUALS ON THOSE SENIOR TRIPS, ABOUT 16 MORE.
SO NOW THERE'LL ONLY BE MAYBE FOUR OR FIVE THAT DON'T GET TO GO ON THESE TRIPS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? SO THEN THAT BRINGS ME BACK TO THE, MY ORIGINAL AND THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE THREE OF THE FIVE OF US HAD, ANYWAY, I DON'T KNOW WHERE, WHAT PAUL'S UNDERSTANDING WAS, UM, THAT THE, IN ADDITION TO THIS 30 OR 40 PASSENGER BUS, HYBRID BUS, ESSENTIALLY THAT YOU PURCHASE, YOU WILL CONTINUE TO RENT AT THE, TO THE TUNE OF $50,000 A YEAR, A 56 PERSON BUS 30 TIMES A YEAR TO MAKE THE TRIP TO ACCOMMODATE THE SENIORS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE HAVE THE NEW BUS OR NOT.
THE ANSWER IS YES, HAS NOT STARTED YET.
WE, WE HAVE NOT STARTED UNTIL JANUARY WHEN THE BUS, THIS BUDGET HOPEFULLY PASSES.
THAT HAS NOT GOTTEN INTO EFFECT YET.
56 PASSENGER BUS HAS BEEN RENTED AS A, AS NO, BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE BUDGET AND GOING FORWARD AND OUR UNDERSTANDING AND CLARIFYING.
I'M NOT TO YOUR, TO YOUR QUESTION.
I ALWAYS LIKE TO SEE HOW THINGS WORK OUT, YOU KNOW, UM, TO SEE ABOUT GOING FORWARD AND JUST LOOKING FOR THE CLARIFICATION.
UM, THAT'S BUS, THAT'S THURSDAYS.
ANYTHING, ANYTHING ELSE ELSE WE NEED TO PUT ON HERE? ALRIGHT, ANYTHING GATHERING INFORMATION? THAT'S IT.
I JUST THOUGHT OF THE RENTALS, THE RENTAL OR THE BUS, IT'S ON A PER USE BASIS OR IS IT ON A PER YEAR BASIS? PER USE BASIS.
I MEAN, IF I CAN TALK TO THEM AND GET A, A BETTER RATE BECAUSE WE'RE DOING MORE OF THEM, I'LL ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
YEAH, BECAUSE THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD, OF COURSE I'M SORT OF THINKING, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THIS IS EVEN PRACTICAL.
UM, WOULD IT, YOU KNOW, SINCE THESE BUSES ARE SO EXPENSIVE, UM, WOULD, IS THERE, COULD THERE BE ANY COST SAVINGS WITH JUST FORGETTING THE PURCHASE? I'M JUST THROWING OUT.
AND I'M NOT EVEN SAYING IT MAKES SENSE, BUT, UM, JUST RENTING, YOU KNOW, JUST DOING A RENTAL RATHER THAN A PURCHASE.
WOULD WE, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO GET, BECAUSE THE SENIORS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE COMFORT.
THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE CONCERN IS.
BUT ALSO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE COMFORT.
THE GOVERNMENT, ESPECIALLY IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, WE'RE BIG ON SHARED SERVICES.
WE DO IT WITH DPW, WE DO IT ALL, ALL OUR DEPARTMENTS.
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IS INCLUSIVE OF PARKS AND RECREATION TRIPS AS WELL.SO IT'S, IT'S NOT JUST COMING OUT OF US.
IT'S GONNA, IT WOULD COST US MORE IF WE JUST RENT.
IF WE WERE, IF WE FORGOT ABOUT PURCHASING.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN COST US MORE? NO, I'M SAYING IF WE SAID OKAY, WE'RE NOT GONNA BUY ANY BUSES, WE'RE JUST GONNA BE RENTING, BUT OH, CORRECT.
SO THEY'RE NOT THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE HAD ALREADY FIGURED THAT PIECE OUT.
HELLO? OH, YOU CAN JUST PASS IT.
IS IT THIS ONE? BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GIVE THAT TO ELLEN.
ARE YOU COLLECTING TOO? I, OKAY.
CAN WE KEEP, CAN WE CONTINUE PLEASE? THANK YOU.
START WITH BUILDING OR DPW BUILDING.
THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR HAVING US.
UM, OUR BUDGET IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
I PROVIDED THE BOARD TONIGHT WITH, UM, OUR RECENTLY UPDATED PERMIT FEES FROM OCTOBER 8TH, 2025.
UM, THE ORGANIZATIONAL CHART AND JUST THE STATISTICAL DATA OVER THE PAST YEAR, UM, UP UNTIL OCTOBER 15TH, 2025, WHICH SHOWS THAT PERMITS HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT.
UM, THEY HAVE NOT BEEN AS ROBUST AS THE PAST THREE YEARS, WHICH WERE RECORD BREAKING YEARS, UM, IN THE TOWN WITH THE NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT WERE SUBMITTED.
UM, BUT IT IS CONSISTENT AND MORE THAN THE PREVIOUS 10 YEARS, UM, CUMULATIVELY, UM, I'VE PROVIDED WITH THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT HAS CONDUCTED, A NUMBER OF PERMITS THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUED, UM, THE FEES THAT HAVE BEEN TAKEN IN.
AND, UM, BASICALLY OUR BUDGET, UM, IS A REDUCTION OVER THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
UM, WE ARE REDUCING THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LINE, UM, WHICH IS A LARGE CHUNK OF THE BUDGET, UM, FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR.
THAT IS TO, UM, REVIEW LARGE SCALE PERMITTING FEES AND TO ENGAGE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, UM, TO DO SPECIALIZED INSPECTIONS.
SO AS, UM, LARGE SCALE PROJECTS CONTINUE TO BE CONSTRUCTED OVER THE NEXT SIX TO SEVEN YEARS, UM, THAT, UH, TENTATIVE BUDGET AMOUNT UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WILL INCREASE OR DECREASE DEPENDING ON WHAT WE KNOW IS COMING UP.
UM, CONSTRUCTION WISE FOR PERMITS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN ISSUED, UH, WE DO HAVE, UH, REDUCTIONS IN THE LONGEVITY LINE.
THAT IS JUST BECAUSE STAFFING HAS CHANGED.
WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW EMPLOYEES.
UM, WE'VE BEEN VERY LUCKY IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE'VE HIRED A GREAT PLAN EXAMINER, UM, THAT HAS A LOT OF EXPERIENCE.
UM, 15 YEARS EXPERIENCE FROM THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA.
UM, WE HAVE BEEN RECENTLY ABLE TO HAVE A FULL TIME SENIOR OFFICE ASSISTANT ADDED TO THE TOWN, UM, WHICH IS MUCH NEEDED.
UM, AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD.
IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.
SO YOU YEAH, JUST LOOKING COULD I, YOUR MICROFICHE PROGRAM, YOU FINISHED A LOT, I SEE THAT YOU, YOU REDUCED THE LINE ON THAT.
YEAH, SO ONE OF, UM, BUILDING INSPECTOR MOO'S GOALS WAS TO, UH, MAKE ALL OF THE PERMITS AND PLANS ELECTRONIC THAT IS THAT MICROFILMING PROGRAM.
SO WE'RE TAKING ALL OF THE PAPER DOCUMENTS, UM, SENDING THEM OUT AND GETTING THEM SCANNED.
SO THEY'RE GOING INTO, UM, WHAT WAS MICROFILM YEARS AGO.
UM, THEY'RE GOING INTO THREE MEDIAS.
ONE IS MICROFILM, LASERFICHE, AND THEN, UM, IT'S BEING SAVED ONTO A SERVER.
AND HOW ARE YOU RECEIVING? ARE WE STARTING TO RECEIVE THOSE ONLINE NOW? WE CAN RECEIVE, SO WHATEVER YOU CAN.
SO THROUGH, THROUGH THE LASER FEE REPOSITORY, WE'RE ABLE TO PULL RECORDS FROM UM, PREVIOUS ISSUED BUILDING PERMITS.
BUT IF YOU BUT NEW NEW APPLICATIONS, NEW APPLICATIONS, UM, THAT ARE GOING TO, WE'VE, UM, GOING TO START IN 2026, WE'RE GOING TO START ACCEPTING ELECTRONIC PLAN SUBMISSION.
AND THAT IS NOT JUST IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
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AND DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.WE'LL ALSO BE ACCEPTING ELECTRONIC PLANS THROUGH ITY.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE HOPING TO GO FULLY ONLINE FOR, UH, THE REGENERON.
UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT WE HAD ANTICIPATED MORE, UM, PERMITS, YOU KNOW, ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
THEY, THEY SAID, UM, THEY HAD TOLD ME, YOU KNOW, OR ONE OF THEIR REPRESENTATIVES A COUPLE WEEKS AGO THAT, UH, THEY WERE STILL ANTICIPATING COMING IN WITH MORE BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ANY MORE, YOU KNOW, UH, BUILDING PERMITS FROM REGENERON BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER? SO IF APPLICATIONS ARE SUBMITTED TOWARDS THE END OF THE YEAR, UM, I, I HAVE REACHED OUT TO REGENERON.
THEY ARE HAVING FUTURE PROJECTS THAT MAY BE COMING IN.
UM, THEY HAVEN'T SOLIDIFIED ANY DATES, BUT I DOUBT IF ANYTHING CAME IN THIS YEAR, UM, SINCE IT'S ALREADY OCTOBER, THAT THEY WOULD START CONSTRUCTION ON THAT ANYTIME SOON.
SO I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF THEY, IF THEY'RE SORT OF A LITTLE BEHIND WHERE THEY HAD ANTICIPATED THEY ARE FROM, BUT IF THEY STILL ARE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE STILL DOING THE PROJECTS.
SO THERE, THERE'S BEEN, THERE HAS BEEN A REDUCTION IN THE PROJECTS AND A SLOWDOWN ON SOME AREAS AT REGENERON, BUT THE, THE MAIN, UM, PROJECTS HAVE CONTINUED.
UM, SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT PHASING THAT HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK AND IT REALLY IS DEPENDENT ON HOW FAST CONSTRUCTION TAKE PLACE AND IT'S ALSO DEPENDENT ON HOW REGENERON DECIDES THEY WANT TO FILL THE, THE, THE BUILDINGS THAT THEY'RE ALREADY CONSTRUCTING.
SO THAT'S KIND OF A FLUID SITUATION.
WE HAD A SIMILAR CONVERSATION LAST YEAR YOU DID, WHERE, WHERE THE SUPERVISOR WAS TOLD THAT THERE WOULD BE, UM, SOME, MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ADDITIONAL THAT YOU WEREN'T AWARE OF AT THE TIME.
IS THAT WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT? WHETHER THAT CAME, THOSE THAT CAME TO FRUITION OR, NO, THAT DIDN'T COME THROUGH FRUIT FRUITION, BUT, UM, WHEN I SPOKE TO UH, PEOPLE FROM REGENERON, THEY INDICATED THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S STILL, AND IT'S STILL UNDER, UNDER PLANS.
AND THEY HAD TOLD ME, AND I EMAILED THEM EARLIER TODAY, BUT I HADN'T GOTTEN, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE.
BUT BETWEEN NOW AND WHEN I SUBMIT THE BUDGET, I'LL SEE IF I COULD GET, UH, YOU KNOW, A MORE ACCURATE ASSESSMENT AS TO WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE BECAUSE MY, MY GUT FAILING IS THAT SOME OF THE, YOU KNOW, UH, PERMANENT ACTIVITY THAT THEY ANTICIPATED IN 2025 COULD HAPPEN IN 2026.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY MIGHT BE JUST SLIGHTLY DELAYED OR WHATEVER.
WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA CHECK IT OUT IF I, IF I MAY SINCE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THERE, THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION LAST YEAR BECAUSE OF THIS SAME ISSUE AND UM, I THINK WE'RE BETTER OFF, YOU KNOW, GETTING REALLY FIRM CONFIRMATION HOLD I DOING, BUT WELL, LEMME ASK, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU THOUGHT THAT YOU HAD LAST YEAR.
BUT CAN, IF I MAY FINISH, UM, I WOULD SAY THAT WITH WHAT IS GOING ON AT THE FEDERAL LEVELS WITH THE DEPARTMENT, THE, THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND CUTS THERE, WE, WE SHOULD PROCEED MORE WITH CAUTION BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL COME TO BE FOR RIGHT.
SO THE 2026 AND, AND UH, IS EXACTLY WHAT I DID IS USING THE STATISTICAL DATA OF NOT WITHOUT THE LARGE SCALE PROJECTS.
SO THE NUMBERS THAT I'M PROPOSING FOR 2026 ARE WITHOUT ANY LARGE SCALE PROJECTS.
BUT AS SUPERVISOR FINER SUGGESTED, IF SOMETHING DOES COME IN THAT THOSE FEES WOULD BE ADJUSTED.
UM, SO ON YOUR MOTOR VEHICLES FOR 2025 YES.
SO 2025 WE PURCHASED THE TWO VEHICLES.
WE HAVE NO NEED FOR VEHICLES FOR 2026.
WE CHANGED TWO GAS VEHICLES TO HYBRID AND WHAT BOOKS? SO THE BOOKS ARE THE NEW YORK STATE, UM, CODE BOOKS THAT ARE MANDATORY.
WE PURCHASE THOSE, UM, OF BULK OF THEM THIS YEAR.
WE'LL PURCHASE THE REST NEXT YEAR.
I JUST WANNA COMMENT ON THE MOTOR VEHICLE LINES.
YOU SEE THAT OTHER YEARS ARE ZERO AT THE END OF THE YEAR.
I'LL BE MOVING THOSE OUT IN 2025 AND THEY'LL BE RECLASSIFIED AS FIXED ASSETS AND CAPITALIZED.
PROFESSIONAL SERVICES DROP CONSIDERABLY.
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ANYTHING ELSE? DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ONE FOR PUBLIC WORKS, RIGHT? I LOST ONE.ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, COMMISSIONER DE POND, PLEASE, PLEASE.
YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NEW POSITION THAT WE WERE GONNA, UM, OH.
SO, UM, AND THIS ACTUALLY PARLAYS INTO
SO, UM, THROUGH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WE ARE JOINTLY FUNDING A NEW POSITION, THE DIRECTOR OF ELECTRICAL OPERATIONS THAT WILL PERFORM, UM, ELECTRICAL WORK FOR THE TOWN AND ALSO ACT THROUGH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, UM, TO PERFORM INSPECTIONS.
SO KIMBERLY HAVE TO ADD THAT TO THE, THE BUDGET.
I GUESS YOU DIDN'T SUBMIT THAT TO US.
THAT'S THAT'S ALREADY YES, IT'S ALREADY, IT WAS IN THE BUDGET FOR LAST YEAR TOO.
I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY IN THERE.
HOW MUCH IS THAT? UH, WE'RE SPLITTING THE COST, I BELIEVE IT'S 70,000 PER YEAH.
BUT YOU'RE ELIMINATING POSITION.
YOU, YOU SAID YOU, EARLIER YOU SAID YOU WERE POSITION ELIMINATING, NOT ELIMINATING THE CAUSE TO THE ELIMINATING, ELIMINATING HOW FUNCTIONS ARE DONE MANUALLY SO THAT HAVING THEM DONE ELECTRONICALLY REPRESENTS THE SAVINGS.
AND WE'RE TAKING THE, UH, INSPECTIONS OF ELECTRICAL WORK INTERNALLY SO THAT WE HAVE QUALITY CONTROL.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER, THANK YOU.
I THINK IT'S WORKING NOW, RIGHT? DON'T YOU JUST TAKE THANK YOU LIZ, DON'T YOU JUST TAKE, NEED TWO MICRO POINTS.
TWO FISTED, ONE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S WORKING OR NOT.
UH, FIRST, UH, MY NAME IS RICHARD FA.
I'M THE COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE TOWN OF GREENBERG.
FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANT THANK THE BOARD FOR HEARING US OUT TONIGHT.
UH, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS TIME TO THANK THE STAFF, THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
OUR DEPARTMENT HEADS, UH, THE JOINT COLLABORATION.
WE'VE HAD A TOWN HALL WITH EVERYBODY.
UM, I'M UP HERE WITH LIZ 'CAUSE I CERTAINLY FEEL LOCKSTEP WITH HER AND FRANK EVERY DAY.
AND JOE AND TEAM, UM, FRANK BEING THE BUILDING INSPECTOR FRANK.
UM, BUT FIRST I JUST REALLY WANTED TO TAKE THIS TIME TO REITERATE WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS DOES.
WHAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE TEAM IS AN UMBRELLA OVER THE BUREAU OF HIGHWAY, THE COMMUNICATIONS OR RADIO SHOP, THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT, THE BUREAU OF SANITATION, THE EQUIPMENT REPAIR BUREAU.
OH, I THOUGHT WE GIVE IT TO ME.
NO, HOW, WHAT HAPPENED IN THE MURRAY, UM, CODE ENFORCEMENT BUREAU OF ENGINEERING.
I DID HAVE THE TEAM PUT TOGETHER THE 2024 STATISTICS FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THEM QUICKLY 'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS YOU'RE REVIEWING OUR BUDGET TO UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT OUR TEAM DOES EACH AND EVERY DAY.
FOR THE TOWN SERVICES PRO, UH, BUREAU OF SANITATION SERVICES, APPROXIMATELY 10,411 HOUSEHOLDS.
HOUSEHOLDS WITHIN THE UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG FOR ROUTINE COLLECTION OF HOUSEHOLD GARBAGE, BULK GARBAGE, BULK METAL, COMMINGLED RECYCLING, PAPER RECYCLING, AND ORGANIC WASTE.
APPROXIMATELY 50 2055 PICKUPS PER WEEK AND 2024, 16,087 AND 44 TONS OF SOLID WASTE WERE COLLECTED AND DISPOSED OF 6459.93 TONS OF ORGANIC WASTE WERE COLLECTED AND DISPOSAL.
2340.4 TONS OF PAPER RECYCLING COLLECT AND DISPOSED OF 1659.4 OF MING RECYCLING COLLECT AND DISPOSED OF 104, 2.2 TONS OF METAL RECYCLING COLLECTED AND DISPOSED OF ALL I KNOW YOU LIKE THIS NUMBER.
61.9 TONS OF FOOD SCRAP RECYCLING COLLECTED AND DISPOSED OF, INCLUDING VILLAGES 8,150 BULK NON-METAL PICKUP SCHEDULED 3,931 BULK METAL PICKUP SCHEDULED.
WHAT'D YOU DO ON TUESDAY?
THAT'S ALL IN THE WEEK OF A SANITATION WORKER.
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AND IF WE CALL YOU AND GET THE THINGS PICKED UP, WE NEED TO, WE'LL ADD CONSIDERABLY TO ALL THOSE NUMBERS.MAINTENANCE OF OVER 306 TOWN VEHICLES AND EQUIPMENT INCLUDING 10 S TRUCKS.
16 REAR LOADERS, NINE SIDE LOADERS, 34 PLOW TRUCKS, 36 SUVS AND SEDANS.
THREE AERIAL BUCKET TRUCKS, THREE JET TRUCKS, ONE BOX TRUCK, SIX FRONT END LOADERS.
TWO BACKHOES, FOUR EXCAVATORS.
ONE TRACTOR, FOUR STREET SWEEPERS, ONE PAINT TRUCK, ONE TRAFFIC TRUCK, ONE BRINE TRUCK, 10 CARGO VANS.
EIGHT BUSES, A WELDING AND SANITATION DUMP BODY AND ROADSIDE ASSISTANCE.
BUREAU OF HIGHWAY MAINTAINS AND MAKES IMPROVEMENTS ON 131 MILES OF TOWN ROADWAY.
THEY ONLY HAVE THREE VEHICLES TO DO ROAD STRIPING.
THERE'S ONE PAINT TRUCK AND THE OTHERS ARE IN THE MULTIPURPOSE.
BUT THERE ARE, ARE, YOU CALL IT MULTIPURPOSE.
UM, THE BUREAU OF HIGHWAY MAINTAINS AND MAKES IMPROVEMENTS OF 131 MILES OF TOWN ROADWAY SYSTEM INCLUDING ROADWAY DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, CATCH BASIN CLEANING AND MAINTENANCE.
UM, 456 CATCH BASINS WERE CLEANED IN 2020 4 67.
CATCH BASINS INSPECTED AND REPAIRED IN 2024.
APPROXIMATELY 170 MILES OF STREETS WERE SWEPT IN 2024.
THE CONSTANT MAINTAINING OF TOWN, RIGHT OF AWAYS TREE TRIMMING AND BRUSH CLEARING, WINTER MAINTENANCE, ROADWAY DEICING AND SNOW REMOVAL.
MAINTENANCE OF TOWN WATERWAYS, BROOKS STREAMS, OUTFALLS, ET CETERA.
MAINTENANCE OF THE TAXI ROAD MULCH TRANSFER STATION.
IN ADDITION, OUR BUREAU OF TRAFFIC AND SAFETY, OUR SIGN SHOP MAINTAINS AND REPLACES APPROXIMATELY 20,000 STREET SIGNS WITHIN UNINCORPORATED TOWN LOCATIONS AND VARIOUS VILLAGES, PAVEMENT MARKINGS, TRAFFIC CONTROL, STOP TURN LANES, ET CETERA.
LANE DIVIDERS, SHOULDER MARKINGS, OUR CONSOLIDATED WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT.
OUR WATER SYSTEM SERVES APPROXIMATELY 40,000 PEOPLE THROUGH 10,500 SERVICE CONNECTIONS.
THE TOTAL WATER PRODUCED IN 2024 WAS 2.769 BILLION GALLONS.
THE DAILY AVERAGE WATER TREATED AND PUMPED INTO THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM IN 2024 WAS 7.47 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY.
OUR HIGHEST SINGLE DAY IN 2024 WAS 11.45 MILLION GALLONS.
YOU DON'T REALLY ACTUALLY PRODUCE THAT AMOUNT OF WATER, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE GET IT FROM THE, WE RELY ON RIGHT.
THE RESERVOIR, THAT'S HOW MUCH IS ACTUALLY CONSUMED IN THE YES.
UH, THE MAINTENANCE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TOWN WATER DEPARTMENT FACILITY MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TOWN.
WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM, INCLUDING REPAIR AND OR REPLACEMENT TO BROKEN WATER MAINS REPAIR AND REPLACEMENT TO BROKEN SEWER LINES, WATER TANK MAINTENANCE, SEWER PUMP STATION MAINTENANCE, ROUTINE WATER HYDRANT, FLUSHING AND MAINTENANCE.
UH, THE NEW STADIUM ROAD CHEMICAL BUILDING POINT TO SERVICE JUNE OF 2024.
WE HAVE SIX WATER TANKS AND TWO WATER PUMP STATIONS, WHICH ARE NOW INTERCONNECTED.
BUILDING MAINTENANCE, MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR TO WORK OF SEVEN TOWN FACILITIES.
COMMUNITY CENTERS, T-Y-T-D-Y-C-C ARE THE CENTER.
LOIS BRONZE DAYCARE, GREENBURG NATURE CENTER, TOWN OF GREENBURG, PUBLIC LIBRARY, TOWN HALL POLICE DEPARTMENT, UH, TOWN JUSTICE COURT, THE WATER AND SEWER GARAGE, THE SECONDARY OLD PUMP STATIONS PARTS AND REC HAS ITS OWN CREW.
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS YARD AT 100 SPRAIN ROAD CLEANING, MAINTENANCE AND MINOR REPAIR TO TOWN FACILITIES.
OUR COMMUNICATION AND LIGHTING DEPARTMENT, WHICH WOULD BENEFIT FROM THE ADDITION OF THE ELECTRICAL POSITION, MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TOWN.
RADIO COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH IS NEW THIS YEAR.
MAINTENANCE AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE TOWN.
ELECTRONIC TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, STREET SIGNAL AND INSTALLATION AND REPLACEMENT STREET LIGHTING MAINTENANCE ON APPROXIMATELY 3,567 UNITS AND MAINTENANCE ON APPROXIMATELY 52 TRAFFIC DEVICES.
OUR BUREAU OF ENGINEERING ISSUES PERMITS FOR STEEP SOPS AND STORMWATER PROJECTS.
AND 2024 THEY ISSUED TWO TH 226 SLOPE CLEARANCE APPLICATIONS, 50 STORMWATER PERMITS, FIVE FILL PERMITS, SEVEN WATERCOURSE PERMITS, 125 STREET OPENING PERMITS AND APPROXIMATELY 250 STREET OPENING PERMITS AND APPLICATIONS ISSUED TO CON EDISON.
THEY ACT AS CONSULTANTS TO TOWN OFFICIAL ON ENGINEERING MATTERS, PREPARE PLANS AND
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COST ESTIMATES FOR SPECIFICATIONS ON SPECIAL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND DIRECT OR UNDERTAKE SUPERVISION OF SPECIAL CONSTRUCTION OR MAINTENANCE PROJECTS.SO THAT'S WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS IS ABOUT.
NOW, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR OPERATIONAL BUDGET, THERE'S REALLY NO CHANGES OTHER THAN THE CONTRACTUAL UNION.
UM, RAISES YOU WANT TO PASS US TO? OH, I'M SORRY.
I THOUGHT I KNEW THERE WAS ONE, BUT I TRY TO DO.
LOOK AT I JUST BE STRAIGHTFORWARD G AS YOU ALWAYS ARE.
I, SO I KNOW, UH, OUR CONTROLLER HAS SENT THE BUDGETS OUT.
AGAIN, YOU COULD TAKE A LOOK AT THE PLUSES MINUS IN THERE.
AND MOST OF THAT IS WHAT JUST PASSED THE THING ON
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ENOUGH OF THOSE.
I'M GETTING AGAIN WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU.
THE FIRST PAGE IS THE CAPITAL, WHICH IS THE MORE IMPORTANT I, I THINK OF THE TWO.
'CAUSE THE, THE OPERATIONAL REALLY HAS NOT CHANGED MUCH.
UM, SO IF YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS ON THE OPERATIONAL, COULD I JUST MENTION SOMETHING BEFORE YOU START, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CAPITAL? YES.
JUST SO, UH, BECAUSE I SENT EVERYBODY, UM, A MEMO EARLIER, UH, TODAY.
SO BASICALLY, UH, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF REQUESTS IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
I THINK EVERY ONE OF THE REQUESTS THAT YOU MADE IS APPROPRIATE.
UM, THE ISSUE IS, UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE COULD AFFORD IN 2026.
SO THE THING IS, WE COULD, UH, KIMBERLY SUGGESTED WE COULD PASS A, A CAPITAL BUDGET, UM, BASICALLY AUTHORIZING ALL THESE EXPENDITURES.
AND THEN AS UM, THE DEPARTMENT IS ABLE TO, UM, FUND THE PROGRAM, THEN WE WOULD, UH, WOULD BOND.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE IS THAT IF WE APPROVE THE BONDING FOR EVERYTHING, WELL AT ONCE IN 2026, UM, WE COULD LOSE THE BOND RATING BECAUSE IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT WAS AS MUCH AS I THINK 16 MILLION WHEN WE, WE STARTED THIS LIKE ABOUT A WEEK AGO.
SO KIMBERLY AND I, AND YOU KNOW, RICH, WE, YOU KNOW, WE SAT DOWN AND UM, WE THOUGHT THAT, UM, WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF LIKE $24 MILLION, UM, FOR 2026.
AND THEN I'M THINKING THAT MAYBE WE COULD APPROVE A THREE YEAR CAPITAL BUDGET.
SO EVERYTHING THAT YOU WANTED WOULD, WOULD BE FUNDED, UM, BUT IT WOULD BE OVER A PERIOD PERIOD OF TIME.
UM, YOU BOND INDIVIDUALLY PER A YEAR.
SO, OH, HE, I HE'S TALKING ABOUT THE STRUCTURE OF THE BONDING.
SO WE WOULD AUTHORIZE THE FULL AMOUNT, BUT WE WOULD ONLY ISSUE, UM, A PORTION OF THAT BASED ON PROJECT NEEDS.
AND THEN WE WOULD GO OUT FOR ANOTHER ISSUE.
SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO KEEP GETTING AUTHORIZATION TO DO THE BORROWING 'CAUSE IT WOULD ALREADY BE THERE IN THE ORIGINAL ADOPTION.
UM, AND THEN ANNUALLY I WOULD FILE A DISCLOSURE ON EMMA, WHICH WOULD INDICATE AUTHORIZATION ISSUE AND ANY CHANGES TO THAT.
BUT, BUT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WHOLE KEY IS REALLY, UH, UH, YOU, THE CONTROLLER AND OUR FINANCIAL ADVISORS WOULD BE, WOULD HAVE TO TELL US, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S SORT OF LIKE THE MAXIMUM WE COULD DO A YEAR WITHOUT JEOPARDIZING OUR BOND RATING.
I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS THAT, IS THERE ANY, ANY, UM, SCHEDULE TO THAT? SO WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BREAKING IT UP, YOU'D BREAK IT UP ANNUALLY OR AS THE NEED ARISES? WELL, IT SAYS THE NEED ARISES, UNLESS THE BOARD WANTS MORE PATROL OVER IT, BUT THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR, IT SHOULD BE ON THE LIST THAT THERE'S NO NEED, THAT IT SHOULD NOT BE ON THE LIST IF THERE'S NO NEED.
SO THERE'S NEED FOR EVERYTHING.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT THAT THERE'S NO NEED JUST AS THE, IF IT YEAH.
BUT, BUT I, WHAT I SHOULD HAVE THOUGHT THE FINANCIAL ADVISOR SAID THE AUTHORIZATION WOULD HAVE NO IMPACT ON THE BOND RATING.
THEY'RE ONLY GOING TO BASE THE BOND RATING ON WHAT WE ACTUALLY ISSUED.
SO WE COULD ISSUE, WE COULD AUTHORIZE THE ORIGINAL, UH, $46 MILLION AND ONLY ISSUE HALF OF THAT.
AND THE RATING IS ONLY GONNA BE BASED ON WHAT WAS BORROWED DURING THE YEAR.
HOW ABOUT INTEREST? WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT IF YOU BREAK IT UP? WELL, THAT DEPENDS IF WE GO FOR A BAND BECAUSE WE'RE STRUCTURING THE DEBT DIFFERENTLY AND THEN WE DO A SHORT TERM, WE MAKE INTEREST PAYMENTS AND THEN WE WOULD ROLL EVERYTHING INTO LONG TERM AT THE END AND WHATEVER WE DIDN'T ISSUE WOULD ROLL
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OFF.IT DEPENDS ON THE NEXT STEP IN THE STRUCTURE.
UM, UM, BRAIN BANDS, BANDS, RIGHT.
UM, ARE YOU ANTICIPATING DOING THEM? NO, IT WAS JUST A THOUGHT.
OF, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF THE VOLUME OF THE DEBT.
THE ONLY ISSUE I HAVE WOULD SAY, HERE'S THE NEEDS OF A THAT FOR THE TOWN AND TODAY AND IT, AND WE'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, CUT IT UP A THIRD, A THIRD AND A THIRD, BUT NEXT YEAR, WHY DON'T WE HAVE ANOTHER EAST HARSDALE AVENUE TYPE OF DISASTER WITH SEWER? AND WE HAVE TO TOTALLY CHANGE THAT PLAN.
WOULDN'T WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER TO WELL, I DO IT YEAR BY YEAR.
WELL ALSO, I THINK I WOULD MENTIONED THAT I THINK WE NEED TO, UM, CONSIDER INCREASING THE SEWER RATES.
'CAUSE THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INCREASED SINCE 2020.
AND I'M ABOUT TO, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CAPITAL PROJECT, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW IT, BUT I'VE MOVED SOME OF, MOVED SOME OF THE ITEMS TO CASH TO CAPITAL.
SO I'M ABOUT TO TAKE FUND BALANCE FROM SEWER FUND AND WATER FUND.
THAT THESE ARE ALL EXCELLENT INITIATIVES THAT YOU'RE DOING.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THE, ON THE, THE ONLY THING THAT I WAS SAYING TO THE BOARD IS THAT, UM, THERE'S NO, I'VE MET WITH RICH A FEW TIMES IN THE PAST COUPLE DAYS.
THERE'S, YOU KNOW, EVERY, UH, REQUEST THAT HE'S MADE, UH, I FEEL IS AN IMPORTANT REQUEST FOR THE TOWN.
SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT BASICALLY QUESTIONING WHAT HE'S, WHAT HE'S RECOMMENDING.
ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT THE TOWN, I JUST DON'T WANT TO HAVE LIKE, OH, YOU KNOW, ON A, YOU KNOW, I FEEL THAT IF WE SHOULD HAVE A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT THAT WE'RE GONNA BORROW EACH YEAR, AND THE BOARD SEVEN, I I WASN BETWEEN SEVEN.
I MEAN, FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE, WE HAVE TO CHECK IN TOO WITH OUR CONSULTANTS, CORRECT? IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? FINANCIAL ADVISOR.
THE FINANCIAL ADVISORS, THEY'VE ASSURED, RIGHT? THEY'VE ASSURED ME THAT, UM, THE RATING WILL NOT BE AFFECTED ON BY THE AUTHORIZATION ONLY WHAT IS ISSUED.
SO SAY WE START A GROUP OF PROJECTS AND WE ISSUE, UH, YOU KNOW, $20 MILLION, UM, THE CHANCES ARE IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SIX, IT'LL BE SIX MONTHS TO A YEAR LATER THAT WE WOULD ISSUE THE REST OF WHAT WAS AUTHORIZED.
AND AT THAT TIME WE CAN LOOK AT THE DEBT AND THE NEXT BUDGET AND SAY, WELL, WE HAVE TO COMPLETE THESE PROJECTS.
SO WHAT DO WE WANNA ADD IN 27? UM, WITH WHAT WE DID YESTERDAY, I GUESS WE CAN LAY IT OUT AND I COULD DO SOME KIND OF A, UH, ROLLING DEBT CHART WHERE WE COULD SEE WHERE DEBT IS ROLLING OFF AND WHERE DEBT IS AT ADDED WITH DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS.
BUT THE, I REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WHEN RICHARD BOBBY WAS ALIVE, YOU KNOW, HE PASSED AWAY ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
HE KEPT SAYING TO ME FOR YEARS, WE NEED TIMELINES.
WE NEED A A WORK PLAN FOR EVERY CAPITAL, FOR EVERY CAPITAL BUDGET REQUEST.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE AN IDEA, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE PLAN IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN ARE WE GOING TO BID, UH, UH, YOU KNOW, WHO'S DOING WHAT, WHO'S GONNA BE OVER OVERSEEING THIS? WHEN IS THE CONSTRUCTION ANTICIPATED GONNA BE COMPLETE? AND, YOU KNOW, WE FOUND, UM, YOU KNOW, KIMBERLY TOLD ME A FEW DAYS AGO THAT WE HAVE TO RETURN LIKE $6 MILLION OF, UH, MONEY THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY AUTHORIZED BECAUSE WE NEVER SPENT IT.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA BE RETURNING MONEY THAT WE THOUGHT WE NEEDED.
BUT IT, IT COULD ALSO BE THAT THE PROJECT CAME IN UNDER BUDGET.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND IT.
I JUST KNOW THAT, UM, THE MONEY HAS TO GO BACK FOR DEBT SERVICE.
IT WAS EARMARKED FOR A CERTAIN PROJECT, DEPENDING ON THE VERBIAGE AND THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT THAT HAS TO GO BACK.
BUT EITHER IT COULD BE THAT WE DIDN'T SPEND IT, BUT IT ALSO COULD BE THAT THE PROJECT DIDN'T COST AS MUCH AS WE THOUGHT IT COST.
AND, AND BASICALLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SUCH THE, THE IS IS A MULTI-YEAR PLAN SUCH AS, UM, COUNCILWOMAN COUNCIL OF WOMEN JACKSON HAD MENTIONED LAST BROUGHT UP LAST YEAR, THAT FIVE YEAR PLAN.
SO THIS IS, THIS IS ALONG THE SAME LINES OF PLANNING AHEAD.
FORECASTING, FORECASTING, UH, LIAISON TO DPW, COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON, UM, IN 2023 HEREAFTER WHEN WE HAD SOME DEBATES ABOUT THE WATER RATES, UH, HAD US AND BY TOWN BOARD RESOLUTION GET A COMPANY TO DO, UH, BEST PRACTICES FOR THE WATER AND SEWER.
WE GOT A DRAFT LAST NIGHT, UM, AND, UH, TOWN CONTROLLER, UM,
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KIMBERLY AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH US LOCKSTEP.I THINK WE'RE GONNA MAKE GREAT STRIDES TOWARDS THAT.
WE ALSO DID THE SAME THING WITH THE, THE HEATING VENTILATION, AIR CONDITIONING UNITS THROUGHOUT THE TOWN SO THAT WE HAVE A PLAN.
UM, AND I WANNA SAY ALSO, WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH OUR NOW ALMOST FULLY STAFFED ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, WHICH WE DIDN'T HAVE FOR THREE YEARS.
SO IF THERE WAS ANY MISSTEPS WITH CAPITAL, I COULD ASSURE YOU THIS YEAR WE ARE SPENDING YEAH, EVERY DIME OF PAVING.
WE'RE SPENDING EVERY DIME OF DRAINAGE AND EVERYBODY SEES THE NEED FOR THE DRAINAGE WORK.
WE ARE SPENDING EVERY DIME OF THE CURBING WORK.
WE ARE AGGRESSIVELY TRYING TO GET THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WALL UP AND RUNNING.
THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT SOMETIMES AS SUPERVISOR FINER ALLUDED TO, SOMETIMES DON'T HAPPEN RIGHT AWAY.
IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE'RE NOT TRYING TO GET IT DONE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER OBSTACLES OR AN EMERGENT WORK, REMEMBER? YES.
THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING GOING ON, RIGHT.
UM, WE ARE LOOKING TO PREVENT WITH THIS BEST PRACTICE IS ANOTHER EAST DALE AVENUE, UH, BREAK.
SO, YOU KNOW, KNOW YOU HAVE THE POLICE NO GUARANTEES.
YOU KNOW, AS CAPTAIN VALENTINE ALWAYS SAYS, IT'S NOT IF IT'S WHEN YOU HAVE A PROBLEM.
AND, AND, AND I THINK YOU NEED TO QUALIFY THAT THE, THE SEWER SYSTEM IS WHAT OVER A HUNDRED YEARS OLD, THE CAPACITY FOR THE SEWER SYSTEM AS IT EXISTS AT THAT BEING THAT OLD WAS FAR LESS.
THERE WAS NO WAY OF ANTICIPATING THAT WE WOULD HAVE A HUNDRED YEAR STORMS, 500 YEAR STORMS, THAT EVERYTHING WAS GEARED TO 10 20 YEAR STORMS, IF THAT.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE, WE HAVE ISSUE ISSUES.
SO IT'S NOT THROUGH LACK OF MAINTENANCE OR LACK OF, OF DOING THE PROPER WORK.
IT'S, IT'S, IT'S A HUGE UNDERTAKING.
AND THERE WAS APARTMENT BUILDING BUILT OVER THE PIPE THAT'S A 90-YEAR-OLD PIPE WITH A 60-YEAR-OLD BUILDING OVER IT.
AND A COUNCILMAN WOMAN, SHE ALWAYS SAYS WHAT? I SAID, COUNCILMAN NO, YOU DID NOT
ALWAYS SAYS, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA, WHAT ARE THEY GONNA THINK ABOUT THIS APPROVAL? TINA'S GONNA REMIND ME OF YOUR STATEMENT.
WHAT ARE THEY GONNA THINK ABOUT THIS APPROVAL? RIGHT.
YOU KNOW, 20, 30, 50 YEARS FROM NOW WHEN THEY LOOK BACK AT IT.
RIGHT? THIS IS ONE OF THOSE MOMENTS WHEN YOU LOOK BACK AND YOU GO, WHAT WERE THEY THINKING? MAKING SURE.
AND AS YOU TOUCHED ON THE STORMS WE'VE BEEN HAVING HAVE BEEN OFF THE CHARTS, YOU'VE SEEN THE RESIDENTS COME IN WITH THEIR PICTURES AND THEIR DOCUMENTATION OF HOW THEY'VE BEEN IMPACTED.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN'T AGGRESSIVELY TRY TO DO THE BEST WE CAN TO FIX.
IS IT GONNA BE PERFECT? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
ARE WE GONNA FIX EVERYTHING? NO.
BUT CAN WE DO THINGS TO IMPROVE IT AND MAKE IT BETTER? I BELIEVE SO.
LOOK AT, UH, CLARINE IN PLACE, RIGHT? UH, TOWN ENGINEER JASON POL WAS PUSHING TO HAVE A PRIVATE LINE CLEANED.
IT'S MADE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE THERE.
THE WORK THAT, UH, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER AND BUILDING THE SPECTRUM LIBIDO IS DOING WITH THE HIGHWAY TEAM AND THE BROOKS IS GONNA, IS GONNA MAKE AN IMPACT.
ALL THESE LITTLE THINGS MAKE AN IMPACT.
BUT WE MET WITH WATER SEWER TODAY AND YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HEAR AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT WE'VE GOT A HUNDRED YEAR OLD FIRE HYDRANTS IN THE GROUND STILL OPERATING.
WHEN WE HAVE 90 100-YEAR-OLD PIPES UNDER THE GROUND, WE HAVE TO REALLY START FORECASTING OUT HOW WE'RE GONNA FACILITATE THE RE REPLACEMENT, THE UPGRADE OF THESE.
WE HAVE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, UH, IN, UH, GREENVILLE, WE HAVE AN AREA OF FORT HILL.
THAT'S IN OUR, THAT'S THE FIRST LINE WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL BE WORKING ON.
WE HAVE A NEW PUMP STATION FOR THE WATER DEPARTMENT THAT WE GOTTA GET GOING.
WE'VE OUR LAST OF SIX WATER TANKS TO BE REPLACED GOING.
THERE'S NO LACK OF WORK OUT THERE.
AND THE ABSOLUTELY, BECAUSE IT'S A BIG TOWN.
THIS'LL COVER, WHAT, 36 SQUARE MILES.
UM, BUT ALSO, JUST TO, TO BE CLEAR, THESE ARE MAINS, RIGHT? AND FROM THE MAIN TO THE HOUSE, PEOPLE'S PRIVATE HOMES ARE THERE RESPONSIBILITY UP TO THE CURB BOX.
AND NOW WE'VE GOT THE, THE LEAD STUDY THAT'S ONGOING.
RIGHT? I, I DO WANNA MENTION ONE THING THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER.
YOU KNOW, WE WERE MANDATED BY THE CITY TO PUT THIS CONTACT TANK IN BECAUSE THEY WERE GONNA STOP BY THE CITY, NEW YORK CITY.
WHERE WE PURCHASED OUR WATER, THEY WERE GONNA STOP CHLORINATING THE WATER.
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HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO THAT.'CAUSE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ARE JUST NOT UP TO WHERE WE ARE.
WE HEATED THE WARNING, THE BOARD APPROVED THE PROJECT.
WE USED EVEN THE COVID FUNDING TO OFFSET THAT PROJECT.
THAT PROJECT IS DONE AND IT'S RUNNING.
THEY STILL HAVEN'T STOPPED CHLORINATING.
SO WE EXPEDITED THAT PAID WHAT WE HAD TO PAY AT DURING THE COVID HIGHER RATES.
AND IT'S STILL NOT SO BACK TO WHAT SUPERVISOR FINE ARE SAYING, SOMETIMES THERE'S ARE MOVING TARGETS, YOU KNOW, AND WE'RE NOT SURE IF THEY'RE GONNA GO UP DOWN.
WE HAVE THESE EMERGENCIES, WE HAVE THESE STORMS, WE HAVE THESE BREAKS.
LAST YEAR OR THIS YEAR, THE WATER AND SEWER DEPARTMENT ON THE WATER END IS UP TO 300 BREAKS.
IT'S, I I CAN I JUST BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T SAY THE WHOLE STORY WHEN NEW YORK CITY REQUIRED US TO DO THE CONTACT ATTACK, THEY ALSO SAID, IF YOU DIDN'T MEET THE DEADLINE, WE WOULD HAVE TO NOTIFY ALL THE CUSTOMERS THAT WE WERE IN VIOLATION OF WATER QUALITY.
AND IT WOULD JUST, AND ALSO HAVE FINES A TREMENDOUS, YOU KNOW, IMPACT.
WE DID THE RIGHT THING, EVEN THOUGH IT WAS VERY EXPENSIVE TO DO THAT.
UH, AND THEN THEY, WHATEVER REASON, BUT TO BE CLEAR, WHAT THIS CONTACT TANK DOES IS FOR THE HOMES THAT ARE IN THE IMMEDIATE AREA OF THE CONTACT TANK, PEOPLE SAY, OH, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THAT, YOU KNOW, MONSTROSITY.
BUT THOSE HOMES WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET WATER OF, OF, OF, UH, PROPER QUALITY BECAUSE THEY'RE SO CLOSE TO THE PUB STATION THAT THE CHEMICALS ARE NOT IN CONTACT WITH THE WATER LONG ENOUGH TO TREAT THE WATER.
SO ANYONE'S DISTANT FROM THAT DOESN'T REALLY BENEFIT SO MUCH FROM THAT CONTACT TANK.
BUT THE PEOPLE IN IMMEDIATE FACILITY, UH, VICINITY OF THAT CONTACT TANK, THEY WOULD NOT HAVE WATER AND THEY WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO OCCUPY THEIR HOMES.
AND WE, WE ROSE TO THE CHALLENGE, GOT IT DONE, AS YOU SAID, DURING THE COVID COVID, AS YOU CALL IT,
UH, AND WE GOT IT DONE AND, BUT IT'S STILL, IT'S A GOOD THING.
BUT AT SOME POINT, AT SOME POINT THEY'RE GONNA PROBABLY SHUT IT OFF.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE BE PREPARED FOR IT.
AND I DON'T MEAN TO CUT YOU OFF, BUT EVEN, YOU KNOW, THIS WEEKEND, JASON CAPAL, THE TOWN ENGINEER, WAS WATCHING A PROGRAM ABOUT AN EVENT THAT TOOK PLACE IN FLORIDA WHERE SOMEONE HACKED INTO THE WATER SYSTEM THERE AND TRIED TO UP THE CHEMICALS IN THE WATER SYSTEM WHERE IT WOULD KILL PEOPLE.
THIS IS WHAT'S GOING ON OUT THERE.
THIS IS NOT, THE WORLD IS NOT SANE RIGHT NOW.
WE'VE GOT THAT'S OUTTA A BATMAN MOVIE.
YEAH, NO, YOU, YOU'VE GOT, AND HE, AGAIN, YOU HAVE PEOPLE ON YOUR TEAM THAT LIVE, BREATHE THIS STUFF.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE WATCHING EVERYTHING.
THERE'S A WHOLE PROGRAM IN PLACE, WHICH WE'VE HAD TESTED BY OUTSIDE FIRMS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE HACK PROOF.
IT'S A WHOLE SYSTEM OUTSIDE OF OUR IT DEPARTMENT HERE.
THEY HAVE NO, IT'S INCREDIBLE WHAT THE DAY-TO-DAY OPERATIONS HERE ARE MADE OF AND WHAT IT TAKES.
BUT WE, WE, WE ARE DOING AS MUCH AS POSSIBLY CAN DO.
IF YOU SAY HACK PROOF, SOMEBODY'S GONNA WANT TO PROVE THIS WRONG.
SO LET'S NOT MAKE NO CHALLENGE INTO A CHALLENGE.
I JUST, BUT WE, WE ARE, WE'RE TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY.
UM, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ISSUES WITH BONDING IS THAT YOU HAVE TO SPEND ONLY WHAT'S SPECIFICALLY IN THE BOND, YOU KNOW, RESOLUTION.
BUT IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY, I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE, UM, TO BE MORE GENERAL WITH SOME OF THE SPECIFICS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT PAVING ROADS, SIDEWALKS, BRIDGES, UM, YOU KNOW, DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS, TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENTS, UM, IF YOU BASICALLY HAD A HEADLINE THAT SAID, THESE ARE, UM, UH, PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC WORK IMPROVEMENTS, AND THEN IN THE, YOU KNOW, IN THE SUMMARY WE COULD SAY IT'S GONNA BE USED FOR DRAINAGE, TRANSPORTATION, SIDEWALKS, ROAD SURFACING.
IT WOULD GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY DURING THE YEAR WHERE YOU DON'T, WHERE IF YOU WANT TO SPEND MORE OR IF YOU NEED TO SPEND LESS ON SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD HAVE MORE, YOU WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY TO MOVE THINGS AROUND.
AND I, YOU KNOW, I I THINK THAT IT, IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR YOU.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND I'M WONDERING, KIMBERLY, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
SO HE WANTS TO, UM, GENERALIZE THE TERMINOLOGY,
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UH, IN THE BORROWING SO THAT THERE'S FLEXIBILITY IN THE DEBT SERVICE.SO IF YOU, UM, HAVE GENERAL TERMINOLOGY THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, IT SAYS VARIOUS PROJECTS, UH, OR VARIOUS SIDEWALKS, AND DOESN'T MEAN SPECIFIC SIDEWALKS OR SPECIFIC PROJECTS, THEN YOU CAN MOVE THE MONEY AROUND FOR OTHER PROJECTS.
WHEREAS IF IT'S MORE SPECIFIC, THE MONEY HAS TO GO BACK TO DEBT SERVICE IF IT'S NOT USED.
DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE? I I THINK THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE HAS REALLY BEEN DOING THAT OVER THE LAST FEW MONTHS, REALLY TRYING TO, NOT TO THE DEGREE THAT'S BEING ASKED FOR.
WE'VE TRIED TO MOVE, LIKE PROJECTS TOGETHER.
'CAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A A A JULY 14TH STORM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WHAT WE WERE DOING NOW, WE'VE SHIFTED.
AND I, I JUST WANNA SAY, UH, BECAUSE THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TRANSPARENCY.
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU KNOW, SAY, OH, YOU HAVE, UH, UH, A WHOLE BUNCH OF, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T WANT THE HEADLINE, UH, TO CONFUSE PEOPLE SAYING, OH, WE'RE SPENDING, UH, $41 MILLION ON ROAD IMPROVE ON IMPROVEMENTS, BUT THEN THE PUBLIC DOESN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S FOR.
SO I'M THINKING YOU HAVE THE HEADLINE JUST FOR THE BOND RESOLUTION.
AND THEN THE, AND THEN THE TOWN BOARD WOULD BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, SPECIFY, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE PROPOSED CAPITAL BUDGET WHAT EACH ITEM IS FOR, JUST LIKE WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW.
AND, AND JUST TO GO BACK TO THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THERE'S BEEN REQUESTS, YOU KNOW, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON PUTS OUT A, A LIST EACH WEEK OF THE CURBING AND STREETS THAT ARE GONNA GIVE YOU PAVED BEFORE THAT WEEK.
WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE HEADING THE NEXT WEEK.
AND THERE'S NO ONE MORE TRANSPARENT THAN THIS BOARD, IN MY OPINION.
WE WANT TO GET INFORMATION OUT AND WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE PREPARED FOR THE WORK WE'RE DOING, AND WE WANT THEM TO KNOW WHERE WE'RE HEADING AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.
BUT THERE ARE TIMES WHERE WE HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, THROW A CHANGE UP, YOU KNOW, OR A CURVE BALL COMES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN WHAT WE THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA DO, AND WE HAVE TO PIVOT.
UM, THAT'S BEEN THE CASE WITH THE DRAINAGES HERE.
IT'S CERTAINLY BEEN THE CASE WITH THE SEWER.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD, UM, A ROAD FAIL TWO WEEKS AGO, WORTHINGTON ROAD, WHERE WE HAD TO JUMP ON THAT RIGHT AWAY.
EVERY OTHER DAY THERE'S A DIFFERENT CURVE BALL.
WE TRY TO DO OUR BEST TO MANAGE IT.
UM, BUT WE DO KEEP TRACK OF EVERY COMPLAINT.
WE'RE WORKING DOWN THE LIST AND EVERY WEEK THERE'S NEW COMPLAINTS, THERE'S NEW ASKS THAT COME IN.
UM, AND WE DO OUR BEST TO MANAGE IT.
AND I THINK IN, I THINK IN ALL FAIRNESS TO, UH, COMMISSIONER FA, HE WAS NOT PROVIDED PREVIOUSLY ALSO WITH A, UM, CAPITAL PROJECT LENGTH SCHEDULE THAT WAS COMPLETE FROM THE COMPTROLLER'S OFFICE.
WE HAVE COMPLETED IT AND TIED IT OUT AND PROVIDED THAT.
AND THAT WILL, YOU KNOW, BE A MECHANISM THAT WE CAN BUILD A FIVE YEAR CAPITAL PLAN ON.
AND THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE HAS BEEN WONDERFUL.
I, I'M GONNA GO A LITTLE BIT, I'M GONNA SEGUE A LITTLE BIT, JUST KIND OF BACK TO WHAT I WAS SAYING IN TERMS OF THE HOMEOWNER RESPONSIBILITY.
IT'S, AND IT'S NOT REALLY BUDGET, BUT IT'S JUST MORE INFORMATIVE AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, UM, MY INFORMATION IS CORRECT.
SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND IT THAT MANY OF THE, OF THE, UM, THE SEWER LINES GOING TO THE HOUSES ARE TERRACOTTA.
THEY WERE PUT IN, AS I SAID, LIKE A HUNDRED YEARS AGO.
AND THE, THE TERRACOTTA HAS DEGRADED AND THERE ARE BREAKS THERE.
SO PEOPLE HAVING ISSUES MIGHT BE MORE WITHIN THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
UM, BUT WE WILL DO THE BEST WE, I'M ASKING ACTUALLY, UM, IF YOU'RE, YOU'RE INVESTIGATING AND YOU FIND THAT IT IS NOT, IF THE PROBLEMS ARE NOT COMING FROM OUR TRUNK LINES, DO YOU ADVISE THE HOMEOWNERS? HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? SO THE SEWER MAIN, THE WATER MAINS ARE OURS.
THE HOUSE SERVICE FROM THE SEWER MAIN TO THE HOUSE IS PRIVATE.
UH, TOWN ENGINEER JASON OLA IS LOOKING AT A CODE THAT HAS BEEN USED IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES WHERE WHEN SOMEONE, UH, BUYS OR SELLS A HOME, THAT AN INSPECTION IS REQUIRED TO BE DONE ON THAT.
THERE ARE ALSO COMPANIES THAT, UH, AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES HAVE INSURED GONE OUT AND SOLD INSURANCE TO THOSE HOMEOWNERS.
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THE WATER SERVICE WE OWN FROM THE CURB STOP TO THE MAIN.SO IN RESPECT TO THAT, NO ONE CAN TOUCH THE WATER MAIN, THE PUBLIC MAIN.
IT'S A SAFETY MEASURE RIGHT PAST THERE, IT FALLS INTO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WHERE YOU HAVE TO HAVE A WESTCHESTER COUNTY LICENSED PLUMBER DO THAT WORK.
THEY HAVE TO FILE WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND, AND DO THAT WORK.
SO SEWER LINE FROM THE MAIN TO THE HOUSE IS PRIVATE AND THEY ARE AGING.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF THE OLD CLAY.
THE WATER LINE IS FROM THE CURB STOP, WHICH IS BASICALLY AROUND THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE HOME IS PRIVATE.
AND JUST TO ADD TO THAT, IF ANYBODY IS WATCHING THIS, YOU COULD ALWAYS SIGN UP ON OUR WATER SITE TO MONITOR YOUR WATER USE.
UH, IT'S A VERY HELPFUL TOOL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'VE GOT ANY LEAKS, ESPECIALLY OVER THE OVERNIGHT HOURS AND THAT SERVICE IS AVAILABLE.
AND THAT HELPS IDENTIFY THAT WHEN YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DO AN INSPECTION OF YOUR OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY.
JUST TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION WITH REGARD TO IF THERE'S A BREAK IN THE STREET ON OUR SIDE OF THE TOWN SIDE VERSUS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY, IF THE TOWN IS CALLED IN, THEY WILL NOTIFY THE HOMEOWNER THAT IT IS NOT THE TOWN SITE.
JUST, AND A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS DON'T KNOW THAT.
RIGHT? SO, KNOW WE TALK ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME.
YOU, YOU HAVE A WEBPAGE AND MAYBE WE DO.
I, IT ALWAYS, THAT'S ABOUT A YEAR AGO.
GOTTA KEEP POINTING THEM INTO, I THINK I KNOW WE NEED TO RE NO, WE GOT IT DONE.
SO IT'S ABSOLUTELY USE, IT'S ON THERE.
BUT ANYTHING THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO EDUCATE, UM, OUR RESIDENTS ON WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO IS MOST IMPORTANT.
UM, SO WHATEVER WE HAVE THEN WOULD BE GOOD.
IS THERE ANYTHING IN THE BUDGET REGARDING OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT SIDEWALKS AND PAVING? I MEAN, UH, PLOWING OR MAINTENANCE? SO IN THE, UH, CAPITOL, THERE IS, UH, PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
SO DEPENDING ON WHICH WAY THE BOARD GOES.
'CAUSE AT THIS POINT, AND I'LL REITERATE OUR SIDEWALK SITUATION IN THE CODE, THE LAW, UH, THE MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OF THE SIDEWALKS IN FRONT OF HOMEOWNERS OR PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS PROPERTIES IS THEIR, THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
IF WE HAVE A TREE OR WE CAUSE DAMAGE TO THAT SIDEWALK, IT THEN FALLS ON THE TOWN.
SO WE'VE HAD ISSUES WHERE WE GOT COMPLAINTS ABOUT A TREE UPROOTING A DRIVEWAY OR A SIDEWALK IN TURN WE GO OUT AND REPAIR IT.
WE JUST DID SOME, WE BASICALLY IN HARTSDALE REDID MOST OF THE ROADS.
UM, AS A PART OF THE BUDGET THAT YOU GUYS APPROVED LAST YEAR, WE DAMAGED A SIDEWALK IN DOING CURBING.
IT CAME OUT BEAUTIFUL ON GATED AND TERRACE.
BUT WE ARE VERY MINDFUL OF THE CODE.
UM, LISTEN, ONE OF THE REASONS THE SANITATION DEPARTMENT IS ABLE TO PICK UP ALL THE, ALL THE ORGANIC WASTE IN PART IS THE TOWNS.
AND PAUL'S PUSHING TO HAVE BAGGED LEAVES AND MARTINO DE BRUSO, OUR COEN ENFORCEMENT OFFICER, ENFORCING THE CODE FOR PICKUP.
WE'RE ABLE TO, THAT TASK IS DONE BY SANITATION NOW.
SO AGAIN, WE ARE CONSTANTLY RELOOKING HOW TO REWORK THE DEPARTMENT, HOW TO SAVE FUNDS, HOW TO DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY.
UM, AND IT HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A TEAM APPROACH.
UH, WE DRIVE JOE AND LIZ AND EVERYBODY ELSE CRAZY WITH OUR, OUR ASKS CONSTANTLY.
AND IS IT, I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE HITTING A TIME CRUNCH.
BUT I, AND I'M SORRY I DIVERTED A LITTLE BIT, BUT IF, IF, ARE WE GOOD OR IF ANYBODY'S GOT ANY QUESTIONS? YEAH, I HAD A QUESTION.
WE'RE CONSTANTLY WORKING ON IT.
WELL, I HAD MET WITH, UH, HAL SAM, YOU MIGHT HAVE HEARD OF HIM.
UH, UH, EARLIER AND, UH, NEVER HEARD OF HIM IN TERMS OF THE SIDEWALK FUNDING, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE BUDGET FOR 2026, UH, THE TAXI ROAD AND MOUNTAIN ROAD THAT WAS FUNDED IN 2025, THE EAST HEART DAILY AVENUE, THE WEST HEART DAILY AVENUE, THAT'S ALREADY FUNDED.
SO AS PER, UM, THE TOWN CONTROLLER RIGHT LAST YEAR, WE'RE NOT PIGEONHOLING PROJECTS.
SO EAST IRVINGTON, THE NORTH WASHINGTON, THAT'S IN A GENERAL BUDGET.
SO, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JOY HABER AND MYSELF MET WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY A FEW WEEKS BACK.
NOW WE'RE WAITING HERE TO HEAR BACK FROM THEM.
'CAUSE THERE IS, UH, AND I DON'T THINK I CAN TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IRONED OUT WITH THEM BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD.
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ARMY ROAD, THAT'S THE EDGE MINES, WELL, OLD ARMY AND SOME OF THE OTHER PROJECTS HAVE BEEN SPEARHEADED BY, UH, COMMISSIONER DUQUE.UH, HE IS UNBELIEVABLE AT GETTING GRANT FUNDING FOR THESE PROJECTS.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST THE WORKING BETWEEN THE DEPARTMENTS.
SO IT'S, WE ALL WORK TOGETHER.
IT, IT REALLY IS A VERY NICE GROUP.
I, I TEND TO BLESS THAT THOUGHT.
ANY QUESTIONS, ANYTHING? MY PHONE'S ALWAYS ON.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME.
OKAY, YOU WANNA SIT OVER THERE?
UM, THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THE 2026 PROPOSED LEGAL BUDGET.
UM, I'LL JUST CUT TO THE BOTTOM REAL FIR FAST AND THEN WORK MY WAY BACK UP.
UM, THE PROPOSED BUDGET IS AN INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY $43,000 OVER THE 25 20 25 BUDGET.
UM, IF YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT, WE REMOVED ONE IN-HOUSE COUNSEL, UM, THAT WOULD BE A REMOVAL OF THE HEALTH INSURANCE.
SO WE'D REALLY, IF YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION, HAVE AN INCREASE OF APPROXIMATELY $5,000 FROM LAST YEAR.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT LAW BOOKS AND PERIODICALS NEWSPAPERS, WHICH IS ABOUT A THIRD OF THE WAY DOWN, YOU'LL SEE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE INCREASES ON BOTH OF THOSE ITEMS. UNFORTUNATELY, THE COST OF THESE BOOKS AND PERIODICALS THAT WE REALLY DO NEED TO STAY UP TO DATE ON RESEARCH HAS BEEN INCREASING STEADILY.
UH, WE DID TRY OUR BEST TO NEGOTIATE IT AND THE COMPANIES BASICALLY TELL US IT'S, IT'S A TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT SORT OF SITUATION.
UM, SO UNFORTUNATELY THOSE INCREASES HAVE OCCURRED THIS YEAR.
IF YOU GO DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO SEE SOME DECREASES, UH, YOU'LL NOTICE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES LINE HAS DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY.
UH, PROFESSIONAL FEES FOR CARY MATTERS AND SMALLER CUT, BUT PERCENTAGE-WISE, SIGNIFICANT LITIGATION DISBURSEMENTS.
UH, WE'VE BEEN LOOKING INTO THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH DEFENDING THESE CLAIMS AND WE FOUND THAT, UH, BASED ON THE EXPENSES PUT OUT SO FAR THIS YEAR AND BASED ON LAST YEAR AS WELL, UM, THAT WE CAN DECREASE THESE FUNDS.
UM, INSTEAD OF KEEPING THEM AT THEIR CURRENT AMOUNT OR INCREASING THEM, UH, TERTIARY DISBURSEMENTS AS WELL HAS DROPPED.
THAT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER DOWN.
ON A YEARLY BASIS, WE CONTINUE TO CUT THE COSTS ON TERTIARY CASES.
UH, WE FIND THAT THE REVALUATION IS DOING AN EXCELLENT JOB MAKING THIS FAIR AND EQUITABLE, WHICH NOT ONLY IS GREAT FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL RESIDENT, BUT IS ALSO GREAT FOR THE TOWN.
UM, WE'RE REDUCING EXPENSES WHEN WE CAN.
UH, WE DID ASK FOR A SLIGHT INCREASE IN MEMBERSHIPS AND DUES.
AGAIN, UH, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE FIND THE COSTS ARE INCREASING.
WE TRY TO LOOK FOR THE BEST DEALS POSSIBLE.
UH, BUT WE DO FIND IT FRUITFUL TO TAKE SOME OF THESE COURSES, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY DEAL WITH THE MUNICIPAL LAW DEALINGS OF ON AN EVERYDAY BASIS.
THERE IS A NEW WINE IN MY BUDGET, WHICH IS FOR TAX FORECLOSURE PURPOSES.
UM, SO IT LOOKS LIKE AN INCREASE OF $50,000.
BUT I'D LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE, WE DID HAVE, UH, IN-HOUSE COUNSEL YEARLY SALARY OF ABOUT 55,000.
SO THAT IS ABOUT REMAINING THE SAME.
IT'S JUST BEING ALLOCATED TO A DIFFERENT BUDGET LINE.
CAN I JUST ASK ABOUT THE FORECLOSURES? YES.
UM, UH, THAT SHOULD HELP SIGNIFICANTLY WITH A BUDGET ONCE WE START GETTING THE MONEY, YOU KNOW.
WHEN DO YOU THINK THE TOWN WILL ACTUALLY, UM, START SEEING, YOU KNOW, SIGNIFICANT, YOU KNOW, UH, REVENUE 2026? HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK WILL BE? I DON'T KNOW RIGHT NOW.
SO WE'RE WORKING TOGETHER WITH THE TAX RECEIVER WHO OBVIOUSLY HAS, UH, ALL OF THAT INFORMATION IS PROVIDING IT TO MYSELF AND TO SPECIAL COUNSEL.
UM, WE WILL SUSPECT AT LEAST ONE LARGE AUCTION, PROBABLY MORE LIKE TWO LARGE AUCTIONS NEXT YEAR.
IT IS HARD TO SAY EXACTLY RIGHT NOW HOW MUCH WE'LL COLLECT, OF COURSE, BECAUSE IT'S AN AUCTION.
AND WE'RE NOT SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE BIDS WILL BE.
UM, I COULD TRY TO PROVIDE AN ESTIMATE.
IF I WERE TO SAY A NUMBER RIGHT NOW, IT WOULD BE ARBITRARY, BUT I SUSPECT A LARGE AMOUNT OF MONEY.
UH, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, UM, IN TERMS OF FINALIZING THE BUDGET, KNOWING EXACTLY HOW HAVING A, UH, SOME SORT OF ESTIMATE HOW MUCH WE THINK WE'RE GONNA BE TAKING IN, IN 2026 FROM THE FORECLOSURES?
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YEAH, AN ESTIMATE WOULD BE FINE.SO WE WOULD NEED THAT LIKE IN THE NEXT, I GUESS TWO DAYS OR SOMETHING.
TOMORROW WE'RE WORKING ON THE RATES PERIOD.
UM, KIMBERLY, HOW MUCH OF A GAP CAN I, CAN I GIVE, I DON'T WANNA GIVE A SPECIFIC NUMBER AND BE OFF BY A MILE.
COULD I GIVE A, A LOW END, HIGH END? UH, DO, WHY DON'T YOU, UH, PUT IN WHAT YOU THINK CONSERVATIVELY? UM, AND, AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT, THAT I THINK SHOULD HELP.
WHEN I SPOKE TO, UM, UH, JONATHAN, HE SAID HE THINKS WE'RE IN GOOD SHAPE, UM, UM, IN THE, A BUDGET, YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, SO FAR.
SO, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, SO I, I THINK THE CONSERVATIVE WOULD BE FINE.
UM, AND JUST GOING BACK, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T MAKE THAT STATEMENT BECAUSE HE HAS NOT REMOVED THE APPROPRIATION AND I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT IT.
SO THE APPROPRIATION FROM LAST YEAR IS STILL IN THERE.
SO I, I THINK THAT STATEMENT WAS PREMATURE.
JUST GOING TO THE TOP OF MY BUDGET.
UM, YOU'LL SEE A SALARY INCREASE ON THE, EXCUSE ME, A SALARY DECREASE ON THE TOP LINE, BUT A PART-TIME INCREASE ON THE FOURTH LINE.
THAT IS AGAIN, A REALLOCATION OF ONE SALARY LINE, UH, BEING MOVED.
I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT THAT BE DISCUSSED IN EXECUTIVE SESSION, THOSE TWO LINES, CONSIDERING IT GOES INTO, UH, FINANCIAL AND EMPLOYMENT HISTORY OF PARTICULAR PERSONS.
AND YOU KNOW, I INDICATED THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GONNA KEEP EVERYTHING TO THE, UH, CONTRACTUAL, THE 2.9 FOR EVERYBODY.
AND THEN DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS WE COULD DISCUSS EVERYTHING.
AND IT'S NOT ONLY THE BUDGET PROCESS.
NO, I'M SAYING, UM, MY BUDGET PRO, I'M SAYING THE BOARD, UH, COULD REVIEW AND MAKE CHANGES, UH, BEFORE DECEMBER 20, BEFORE DECEMBER 20TH.
BUT I'M, I'M LEAVING IT AT 2.9 FOR EVERYBODY.
AND THAT'S NOT THE ONLY ISSUE I WANTED TO DISCUSS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE IT IN EXECUTIVE SESSION BECAUSE IT DEALS WITH THE PAR PARTICULAR PERSON.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WE JUST TRY TO, UH, MAKE THE CUTS WHERE WE CAN AND TRY TO KEEP IT IN LINE WITH LAST YEAR'S NUMBERS.
I ALSO WANTED, WHILE WE'RE JUST DISCUSSING, YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET, UM, UH, THE BUYOUTS, YOU KNOW, WHEN LAST, WHEN WE STARTED IT WAS LIKE 5,000.
'CAUSE 50%, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, GOES TO THE EMPLOYEE IF THEY HAVE ANOTHER HEALTH, YOU KNOW, PLAN 50% TO THE TOWN.
IT WAS STARTED AT 5,000, UH, LAST YEAR, I THINK IT WAS 18,000.
AND I THINK THE TOWN BOARD SHOULD PUT A CAP ON, UM, THE, YOU KNOW, KNOW, YOU KNOW, ON THE AMOUNT OF BUYOUTS FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH INSURANCE, THE HEALTH INSURANCE.
I THINK THAT WE SHOULD JUST KEEP IT TO, FOR ANYONE WHO'S CURRENTLY IN IT, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW BOARD MEMBERS ARE IN IT, SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES, I THINK THERE'S A FEW HUNDRED PEOPLE.
THERE'S, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE GETTING THE 18,000, NOW IT'S 20,000.
UM, AND THIS IS GONNA BE, BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, IT'S GONNA BE 30,000 OR $40,000.
IT'S A HIDDEN SALARY INCREASE.
AND I JUST THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE LET ANYBODY WHO'S IN THE SYSTEM KEEP THE 18,000, UM, AND YOU PUT A CAP ON, THEN IT'S NOT GONNA KEEP GOING UP AND UP AND UP.
AND I FAIL FOR, UM, NEW EMPLOYEES.
UM, UH, IT SHOULD BE MORE, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD PHASE OUT THE, THE 50% AND DO WHAT EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY DOES.
MOST COMMUNITIES, IT'S LIKE AROUND $5,000 BEING OFFERED TO EMPLOYEES.
WHERE, UM, WHERE 6,000 TO 18,000 IS LIKE UNHEARD OF, UH, FOR ANY OTHER COMMUNITY BESIDES WESTCHESTER.
AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THAT THE BOARD SHOULD REALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, CONSIDER IT.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO, IF PEOPLE ARE RELYING ON THE 18,000 BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN GETTING IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S FINE.
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT I, IT'S, IT REALLY IS A HIDDEN SALARY INCREASE.
SO WE GOTTA DO, WE GOTTA DO THE AGENDA REVIEW.
'CAUSE WE HAVE A, WE HAVE PEOPLE WAITING.
SO WE ARE DOING THE THANK YOU.
SO THIS, THIS, SO DURING THIS MEETING WE ARE HAVING OUR REPORTS.
SO WE HAVE A LOT OF PUBLIC HEARINGS, BUT WE KEEP PUTTING THEM OFF.
SEE? SO WE KEEP PUTTING THEM OFF.
BUT WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO, UM,
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IF YOU HAVEN'T HEARD FROM US, I THINK, AND WE'VE BEEN DOING, I KNOW EACH OF US BEEN DOING SOME WORK, SO WE NEED TO, SO IS THAT A YES? NO, MAYBE SO I, I'M SORRY.I'M WONDERING WHAT OTHER PEOPLE FEEL.
PAUL FRANCIS, THOUGHTS ON THE, ON THE LIAISON REPORTS? WE COULD DO A LIAISON REPORTS.
WE COULD DO, UH, WE COULD KEEP IT TO TWO MINUTES EACH.
WE COULD KEEP IT TO TWO MINUTES EACH AND THEN WE CAN CONTINUE IT.
UM, SO WE'RE, ARE WE, SO WE'RE GONNA KEEP LIAISON REPORTS.
I, I'VE ARRANGED ON THE MOMENT OF SILENCE TO HAVE, UH, GIDO LETTERER VERY REMARKABLE PERSON IN HER OWN RIGHT.
UH, ALSO THE MOTHER OF THE GREENBERG ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD CHAIR, CATHERINE LETTER BASKE, WHO PASSED AWAY AT THE AGE OF 99 OVER THE WEEKEND.
UM, SHE WAS INTERVIEWED ON HER CABLE ACCESS STATION ABOUT HER LIFE.
AND THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM ON 10 PAGES TO DISCUSS WHAT SHE HAS DONE AS A PERSON WHO LIVED THROUGH THE HOLOCAUST AND, UH, FLED FROM IT.
UM, IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TOWN BOARD MEETING PLAYS, UH, THAT, UH, UM, RECORDING OF HER LIFE WILL PLAY.
AND EVERY TIME OUR MEETING TOMORROW REPLAYS, IT'LL ALSO PLAY, UH, CATHERINE, UM, UH, GARDA LETTER'S, UM, INTERVIEW ON CABLE ACCESS TV.
AND OUR CONDOLENCES TO, UH, CATHERINE LETTER PLAS ON THE LOSS OF HER MOM.
I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THAT AGAIN.
WHAT'S HONORING TEAM TASK FORCE? YEAH, THAT WAS IN MY HEAD.
UM, WE HAVE, UM, A GROUP OF, UH, TEAMS WHO HAVE BEEN DOING SOME REALLY GREAT, UH, YOU KNOW, GREAT THINGS.
AND, UH, I'M GONNA BE GIVING THEM, UH, YOU KNOW, CERTIFICATES, UH, FOR THEIR, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTIONS.
SO THEY, WHAT THEY DOING? MANY, I THINK THERE'S THREE OF THEM.
AND WHERE ARE THEY FROM? UH, MAINLY MOST OF THEM ARE FROM LEY.
AND WHAT ARE THEY DOING? UM, LET ME JUST SEE.
UM, YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ IT.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW WHAT YOU WERE HONORING.
NO, WHAT DID THEY DO? WHAT IS IT, WHAT DID THEY DO? DO THEY DO? UH, WAIT, I'M JUST LOOKING.
UM, YOU'RE NOT SURE YOU PUT IT ON THE AGENDA? NOT SURE.
I, THEY'RE, THEY'VE BEEN COLLECTING, UH, DONATIONS FOR FAMILIES IN NEED.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I HAVE A WHOLE, WE DIDN'T WANT THE LIST.
WE JUST WANNA KNOW JUST WHAT DID THEY DO? THEY, SO THEY DO COLLECTIONS, THEY GIVE YEAH, THEY'VE DONE, THEY'VE DONE LIKE AN AWFUL LOT.
I DON'T HAVE IT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY DID A DIAPER DR.
I HAVE, UH, EARLIER THIS, UH, THIS YEAR IN TERMS OF, UM, JOE, WOULD WE BE ABLE TO PREPARE, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST GOING FORWARD, UM, UH, UH, KIMBERLY MENTIONED THAT THE WATER RATES HAVEN'T BEEN LIKE, INCREASED
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SINCE 2023.AND THEN SHE ALSO MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, THE SEWER, UH, SITUATION.
COULD WE PUT SOMETHING ON FOR, UH, MAYBE THE NEXT MEETING INSTEAD OF PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WORK WITH RICH AND, UM, UM, YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST A WORK SESSION FIRST TO DISCUSS THE ITEMS BEFORE SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING.
WHAT WATER RATES AND SEWER RATES.
BECAUSE YESTERDAY KIMBERLY SENT US ALL AN EMAIL SAYING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T RAISED THE RATES IN 2023 AND WE'RE LOSING A LOT OF YOU WE'RE LOSING MONEY AND WE HAVE A, A BIG WATER SOFTWARE IS ALSO NOT WORKING CORRECTLY.
THE SOFTWARE IS NOT OPERATING CORRECTLY.
OH, ON CD ONE, THE, UH, AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY FOR THE $400,000, UH, REFERENCES THAT WE'RE AGREEING TO A WHOLE BUNCH OF THINGS THAT ARE IN SCHEDULES THAT WE DON'T HAVE.
IT ALSO STATES THAT, AND THIS IS TO A DEAL WITH STORM WATER, IT ALSO, UM, STATES THAT UH, WE GRANT THEM THE RIGHT OF FIRST, UH, REFUSAL ON ANY IN REM PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE.
UM, IN ORDER TO POTENTIALLY PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON IT.
WE MAY WANT TO TAKE THOSE PROPERTIES AND NOT BUILD ON THEM, BUT WE WOULD BE GIVING UP OUR RIGHT ON THAT.
IT'S UNCLEAR WHEN IT SAYS THAT THEY WILL RETAIN OR PURCHASE THE PROPERTIES THROUGH THIS RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL.
WHAT DOES THAT ACTUALLY MEAN? THAT THEY RETAIN IF THEY, IF THEY ALREADY OWN THE PROPERTY, WE'RE NOT FORECLOSING ON THEM.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TERMINOLOGY MEANS, BUT, UM, WE'RE NOT READY FOR THIS.
WE NEED TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS.
SO WE, THIS IS TIME SENSITIVE.
BUT WE CAN'T AGREE TO SOMETHING WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE TERMS ARE.
SO THAT WE KNEW, AND WE DO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING IN TWO WEEKS.
I, I COULDN'T IMAGINE, BUT I GUESS WE COULD LOOK INTO IT BEFORE TOMORROW NIGHT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
UH, PW WITHOUT A DASH OH WITHOUT A DASH EFFORT.
THAT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS HELD OVER TO A DATE TO BE DETERMINED, BUT IT JUST POPPED UP ON AGENDA.
WHAT HAPPENED JUST TO PDW? THE PD, UH, PD ONE, IT'S AN IMA WITH THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO USE, UM, A SECTION OF THEIR, UH, SALT STORAGE AR AREA.
BUT IN THE AGREEMENT, UH, IN ORDER FOR US TO BE ABLE TO USE AN AREA OF THEIR SALT STORAGE, UH, WE HAVE TO AGREE TO BASICALLY, UH, FUND ALL THE SALT THAT THEY MAY NEED FOR THE WINTER.
REIMBURSE THEM FOR SALT THEY'VE ALREADY PURCHASED, PROVIDE AN EMPLOYEE TO LOAD THE TRUCKS AND PROVIDE A LOADER, UH, TO DO THAT.
AND I, I REALLY THINK WE, WE NEED SOME KIND OF A COST ANALYSIS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S WORTHWHILE DOING.
SO WE SHOULD HOLD THIS OVER, OVER.
WELL IT WASN'T SUPPOSED TO BE ON HERE AT ALL
'CAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO FIND OUT MORE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT IN ORDER TO, UM, SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT PDW FOR TOMORROW IS GOING TO BE REMOVED? PW IS DONE.
PW IS GOING TO BE REMOVED FOR TOMORROW.
NOTICE IT SHOULD NEVER BEEN ON THERE.
IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A NUMBER.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE IS CLEAR.
SO I WANNA ASK WHY IT WAS REMOVED.
AND I JUST WANTED TO REVIEW CD TWO.
YOU WANT ME TO GET HIM ON? HE'S NOT ON.
YOU WANT ME TO GIVE THEM? UH SURE.
WHICH ARE YOU LOOKING AT? SO YOU DO TOO.
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HER TRAINING.SO FOR, FOR THE, THE PARKS BOARD.
UM, LEMME JUST SEE IS THAT, I SAW ETHICS TRAINING, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT SEXUAL HARASSMENT PREVENTION TRAINING, BUT THAT MIGHT HAVE GONE DIRECTLY TO HR.
'CAUSE I'VE HAD AN IN INQUIRY AS TO WHETHER, UM, WE CAN APPOINT HER TOMORROW TO THE PARKS BOARD BECAUSE EXTENSIVELY DON'T THINK I'LL HAVE AN ANSWER UNTIL TOMORROW.
WELL, SO IT'S UH, BASICALLY FOR US TO DECLARE OURSELVES AS LEAD AGENT, UH, AGENCY AND REFER IT TO THE PLANNING BOARD TO GET THEIR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION.
WE'RE NOT MAKING ANY ACTIONS ON IT OTHER THAN DOING THAT.
THAT'S WHY I SAID I HADN'T READ THAT LAST SLIDE.
REFERRING TO THE PLANNING BOARD.
YEAH, WE'RE COMMITTING TO NOTHING ON IT OTHER THAN, UH, DECLARING OURSELVES AS THE LEAD AGENT.
IT'S ALSO GONNA BE A TY ONE IN ACTION.
SO THAT TAKES FURTHER SCRUTINY.
OSTENSIBLY IT WAS DONE ON MONDAY.
SO WE'RE GONNA RENUMBER CD TWO.
JUST MAKE IT CD TWO AND IF IT DROPS OFF TOMORROW, THEN IT DROPS OFF AND IT'S DOESN'T AFFECT OUR NUMBERING.
SO FOR THE SINGING OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, IS THERE, IS THERE A SPECIAL EVENT? SHE'S JUST, UH, I JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, MET HER AND, YOU KNOW, UH, SHE IS UH, YOU KNOW, VERY TALENTED EDGEMONT, UM, YOU KNOW, STUDENT AND UM, YOU KNOW, I INVITED HER TO START THE MEETING, SING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.
WELL THEN IT WOULDN'T BE AT UNDER PRESENTATIONS.
IT WOULD BE AT THE BEGINNING AFTER WE SAY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.
TELL HER SHE COULD LEAVE EARLIER.
SO CAN WE ADD, UM, IF IN FACT WE FIND OUT TOMORROW, IS THAT TOO LATE TO ADD, UM, JEN TO THE, TO BE APPOINTED TO THE SCHEDULE? NO, I DO THINK IT'S NICER IF THEY'RE ON THERE WHEN IT FIRST GOES OUT.
'CAUSE THAT'S WHEN MOST PEOPLE SEE IT.
SO IF YOU WANT PEOPLE TO HAVE SOME, YOU KNOW HER TO HAVE SOME RECOGNITION OF BEING APPOINTED.
BUT DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE ANY HOPE OF GETTING THE INFORMATION? I JUST SENT THE EMAIL OUT NOW.
I PROBABLY WILL GET IT TOMORROW MORNING I WOULD ASSUME.
YOU'RE WHAT FOR WHICH BOARD? PARKS AND REC.
AND IF SO, COULD YOU SEND THAT TO HOLLY? 'CAUSE I KNOW SHE'S LISTENING TO THE MEETING.
AM I READING THIS? AM I READING IT IF I'M THERE? IF I GET BACK EITHER ONE.
WHO'S DOING IT? IF YOU'RE HERE, YOU WOULD, IF NOT, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT IT.
YOU KNOW, I WAS SPEAKING, UH, TO LES SADLER, UM, AND, UM, HE IS CONCERNED ABOUT, UM, THE PROPOSED WAREHOUSE, UM, UH, ON THE BORDER OF YONKERS AND, AND GREENBERG.
I SPOKE TO GARRETT, UM, AND ONE OF THE THOUGHTS I HAD, HE, UM, LES ATTENDED THE MEETING IN YONKERS.
UH, HE SAID, YOU KNOW, IT REALLY WAS GONNA IMPACT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DONALD PARK AND CLEARWOOD.
AND, UM, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS THAT I HAD WAS, UM, MAYBE WE COULD, UM, UM, INVITE, UM, UH, A REPRESENTATIVE FROM YONKERS, UM,
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TO GIVE THE TOWN BOARD A BRIEFING ON THE PROPOSED WAREHOUSE DEVELOPMENT AT, UM, A WORK SESSION.MAYBE THE FIRST ONE IN NOVEMBER AFTER THE, YOU KNOW, THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER.
BECAUSE I, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT DEFINITELY IS GONNA IMPACT PEOPLE IN, IN GREENBERG AND WE SHOULD WELL FAMILIAR FAMILIARIZE OURSELVES WITH A PROPOSAL AND UM, AND ANALYZE IMPACTS.
I I, I THINK IF WE GET SOMEBODY FROM YO YONKERS, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY OPPOSITION TO THAT.
THAT WITHOUT HAVING SOMEBODY FROM YONKERS TO I'M EXPLAIN IT.
IT DOESN'T, US SITTING AROUND AND SAYING IT'S A YONKERS ISSUE, IT DOESN'T HELP ANYBODY.
WELL, JOE, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS WE SHOULD INVITE SOMEBODY FROM YONKERS.
OH, ANOTHER THING I HAD IS, UM, I HAD PROPOSED, UH, THAT THEY HAVE LIKE A WALK FOR THE FIRST AMENDMENT WALK.
AND A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T LIKE THE IDEA, BUT, UH, IN SOME COMMUNITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY, THEY HAVE, UH, A MONUMENT AT THE ENTRANCE TO MUNICIPAL BUILDING, UH, HIGHLIGHTING THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
AND I'M WONDERING THIS WOULD, I'M NOT ASKING THE BOARD TO APPROVE ANY FUNDING FOR THIS.
I'M WONDERING IF THE BOARD WOULD HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS IF I REACHED OUT TO PRIVATE FUNDERS AND SEEN IF I COULD GET WHAT AN ARTIST TO COME UP WITH A DESIGN AND SEE IF I COULD A MURAL.
SOMETHING DEALING WITH THE FIRST AMENDMENT.
I, I, I THINK IF YOU CAUGHT THAT REFERENCE, UM, WE, LET'S LET, WE'LL HAVE THAT DISCUSSION, BUT OKAY.
SO WE'VE HAD PROOF THAT WAS NO.
SO I'M JUST WONDERING DO WHAT THAT SHE WAS, THAT SHE FINISHED HER TRAINING.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO TO TO BE ADDED, THAT'S FINE.
SO YOU GOT THE CERTIFICATE? UH, ALAN JUST SHARED IT WITH ME.
SO MY SUGGESTION, OH, WE HAVE A CERTIFICATE.
SO MY SUGGESTION, WOULD THE BOARD HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS IF I PURSUED IT AND THEN CAME BACK? I AM NOT, I I THINK IT'S A GIMMICK.
I THINK WE HAVE SOME SERIOUS ISSUES TO DEAL WITH WITH THIS TOWN.
NO, BUT I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO DO ANYTHING.
I THINK IF WE WOULD BE HELPFUL IF YOU CAN HELP US WITH THE ISSUES THAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
YOU WANTED TO HONOR ALL SAID NO, BUT WE NEED HIM HELP WITH THE ISSUES TOO.
SO, BUT DID YOU WRITE HER NAME ON HERE? ENVELOPE.
UM, YOU HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT WE MOTION MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF, UM, DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE.
AND, AND SORRY FOR THE AMENDMENT I FORGOT TO ADD AND TO DISCUSS, UM, EMPLOYMENT AND FINANCIAL HISTORY OF PARTICULAR CORPORATIONS AS WELL.
IF YOU COULD AMEND YOUR, OKAY.
AND WE WON'T COME BACK THIS EVENING, BUT THE BOARD MEETING WILL MEET TOMORROW AT SEVEN 30 IN TOWN HALL.
WE'RE, WE HAVE A MEETING AT 6:00 PM TOMORROW.
WE DO WITH, UH, THE ODELL HOUSE.