* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:01] WELCOME, TARA TOWN BOARD MEETING. TODAY IS OCTOBER 22ND, UH, AFTER SEVEN 30. AND WE'LL [ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE] START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TWO FIVE. WHAT UNITED STATES OF AMERICA? REPUBLIC ALWAYS STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD IN INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. PLEASE REMAIN STANDING. UM, UM, BEFORE WE DO THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, LET'S DO [ MOMENT OF SILENCE In memory of Gerda Lederer, 99, born in Vienna in 1926, mother of Greenburgh Antenna Review Board Chair Catherine Lederer Plaskett, grew up in an assimilated Jewish family which was able to flee from the Nazis via Paris (1938) to New York (1939), where she earned her MS and her Ph.D., which was awarded the distinguished Eric H. Erikson Award in 1982. As a contemporary witness of the Holocaust, Prof. Lederer was internationally involved in the projects, such as "Lost Neighborhood" and "Letter to the Stars" for the Shoah Foundation, the Leo Baeck Institute, the Museum of Jewish Heritage - A Living Memorial to the Holocaust in Europe and the USA. She was also involved locally in the Town as a Democratic District Leader for many years. Her legacy is her devotion to her family and the causes she championed. [Gerda spoke about her life during a Cable Access Television interview which will be replayed immediately following this meeting.] In memory of those around the world who have perished as victims of war, disease and natural disaster. Our hearts are with all who needlessly suffer.] THE MOMENT OF SILENCE IN MEMORY OF GIRDER LETTER. 99 YEARS OLD, BORN IN VIENNA IN 1926, MOTHER OF GREENBURG ANTENNA REVIEW, BOARD CHAIR, CATHERINE LETTER OF SKET. SHE GREW UP IN AN ASSIMILATED JEWISH FAMILY, WHICH WAS ABLE TO, UM, FLEE FROM NAZI'S VIA PARIS IN 1938 TO NEW YORK IN 1939, WHERE SHE EARNED HER MS AND HER PHD, WHICH WAS AWARDED THE DISTINGUISHED ERIC ERICKSON AWARD IN 1982. AS A CONTEMPORARY WITNESS OF THE HOLOCAUST, PROFESSOR LETTERER WAS INTERNATIONALLY INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT SUCH AS LOST NEIGHBORHOOD AND LETTER TO THE STARS FOR THE SHOWA FOUNDATION, THE LEO, UH, BACK INSTITUTE, THE MUSEUM OF JEWISH HERITAGE, A LIVING MEMORIAL TO THE HOLOCAUST IN EUROPE AND THE UNITED STATES. SHE WAS ALSO INVOLVED LOCALLY IN THE TOWN AS A DEMOCRATIC DISTRICT LEADER FOR MANY YEARS. HER LEGACY IS HER DEVOTION TO HER FAMILY AND THE CAUSE OF SHE, SHE CHAMPIONED, UH, GIDA SPOKE ABOUT HER LIFE DURING A CABLE ACCESS TELEVISION INTERVIEW, UH, WHICH WILL BE REPLAYED IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING, UH, UH, THE MEETING. AND IN MEMORY ALSO, OF THOSE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE PERISHED AS VICTIMS OF WAR, DISEASE AND NATURAL DISASTER OR HEARTS ARE WITH ALL THOSE WHO NEEDLESSLY SUFFER. THANK YOU. AND YOU'LL BE ABLE TO, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT INTERVIEW ONLINE WHEN YOU WATCH OUR MEETING. UM, NE NEXT, UH, WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION BEFORE I INTRODUCED ELEANOR LASAL IS I TOLD A FEW PEOPLE, UH, BEFORE, UH, TODAY'S MEET, TONIGHT'S MEETING THAT YOU WERE GONNA SING, AND I WAS LIKE, AMAZED BECAUSE I SAID, IF YOU SHOW UP TODAY, IT'S FREE. AND IN 20 YEARS, YOU MAY HAVE TO PAY A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS TO HEAR YOU PERFORM AND LUCK. WE GOT A CROWD, UH, BECAUSE EVERYBODY WANTS TO SAVE MONEY. SO MAYBE YOU COULD, UH, SING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM YOU SEE BY THE, AND BRIGHT STARS THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE NIGHT THAT, SO WHEN TAYLOR SWIFT, UH, RETIRES, NOW YOU, SHE'LL [00:05:01] HAVE A SUCCESS SUCCESSOR. COULD YOU TELL US MAYBE JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, WHAT SCHOOL YOU GO TO AND YOUR GRADE AND LIKE YOU? AND IF YOU WANNA GO INTO MUTE, UH, PROFESSIONAL SINGING. SO, MY NAME IS ELEANOR LASALLE AND I'M A FRESHMAN AT THE EDGEMONT JUNIOR SENIOR HIGH SCHOOL, AND I SING ON THE VOCAL JAZZ ENSEMBLE, AND WE GO TO, UM, A NATIONAL JAZZ FESTIVAL, UM, THIS SUMMER IT'S GOING TO BE IN PHILADELPHIA, SO THAT'S GONNA BE FUN. AND I LOVE SINGING AND I'M VERY MUSICAL, SO YEAH, JUST, IT'S REALLY FUN. AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU. THANKS. NEXT, UH, [ PRESENTATIONS (Maximum 10 minutes each) Honoring Teen Task Force] WE'RE GONNA HONOR, UM, THE TEEN TASK FORCE AND WE HAVE, UM, SOME AMAZING, UM, UM, UH, STUDENTS WHO ARE PARTICIPANTS IN THE TEEN TASK FORCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, UH, BE HONORED. AND, UM, ONE IS HARVEY DURA, AND, UM, AND WE HAVE, SO WANG AND, AND, AND, UH, SHUKLA AND MEINA, UH, YOU KNOW, JONES, AND MAYBE WE GIVE YOU THE CERTIFICATE AND YOU CAN TELL US A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, THE TEEN, UH, UH, TF FORCE AND THREE. SO NEMA, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE TEAM? SALESFORCE, UH, THE CERTIFICATE SAYS, EXEMPLIFYING THE COMMON MISSION OF TEAM CIVIC ENGAGEMENTS, UM, PROMOTING AWARENESS OF DISPARITIES AND ISSUES IN WESTCHESTER, GIVING BACK THROUGH CIVIC ENGAGEMENT, INCLUSIVITY, UH, REACHING OUT TO VARIOUS COMMUNITIES AND FOSTERING HEALTH, HAPPINESS AND GROWTH FOR ALL. AND YOU'VE ALSO SPONSORED LIKE DIAPER DEER SHOES AND FOOD DRIVES, AND DONE A LOT OF, UH, POSITIVE THINGS, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR THE COMMUNITY. DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? UM, I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE YOU SAID EVERYTHING. YEAH, . UM, YEAH, I JUST WANNA HELP WESTCHESTER, YOU KNOW, DO EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN, BUT YEAH. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU. UM, ANANYA SHUKLA, DO YOU WANNA SAY ANYTHING? UM, I'M ANANYA SHUKLA AND I'M A SENIOR AT ARTLEY HIGH SCHOOL, AND I'VE BEEN A PART OF THE TEEN TASK FORCE SINCE I WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL. AND WITH THE TEEN TASK FORCE, WE'VE DONE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS IN OUR COMMUNITY, LIKE EDUCATION SERIES ABOUT CYBERSECURITY. WE DO THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS DRIVES, AND RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A COLLECTION BOX IN THE TOWN HALL FOR OUR THANKSGIVING DRIVE AS WELL WITH THE GRACE CHURCH. AND I JUST REALLY LIKE WORKING WITH THE TEEN TASK FORCE BECAUSE I LIKE HOW US TEENS ARE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THEIR OWN PROJECTS AND DIFFERENT SOLUTIONS TO WHAT WE WANNA WORK TOWARDS AND HOW ANY YOU ALSO HAVE MENTORS, PEOPLE YEAH. WHO ARE, DO YOU WANT TO, UM, YEAH, SO WE WORKED WITH THE GREENBERG LIBRARY GOOD FOR GIRLS IN THE HARTSDALE ROTARY. SO, UM, DALE ROTARY HAS DONE AN AMAZING JOB, RIGHT? YEAH. MR. GARDNER HAS BEEN WITH THE TEAM TASK FORCE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE JOURNEY. MAYBE MR. GARDNER, MAYBE YOU CAN COME UP ALSO, BECAUSE I GET SO MANY EMAILS FROM YOU. IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. YOU REALLY HAVE, UH, GIVEN A LOCK, UH, TO THIS. AND, UH, MAYBE AFTER I HONOR THE, UH, SOPHIE. SOPHIE, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING, JACKIE? YES. WELL, FIRST, MR. FINE, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS HONOR. UM, IT'S BEEN SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY WORKING WITH THE GREENBERG TEAM TASK FORCE, SO I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE TASK FORCE SINCE I WAS A FRESHMAN, AND JUST, IT WAS SUCH A GREAT OPPORTUNITY IN ORDER TO JUST COME UP WITH MY OWN COMMUNITY SERVICE PROJECTS AND TO HAVE LIKE MY FRIENDS HERE WITH ME RUNNING IT AS WELL. AND I JUST REALLY WANT TO THANK JOE, UM, SO MUCH FOR HELPING ME . I WANNA THANK JACKIE AS WELL FOR, UM, SO MUCH LIKE MENTORSHIP AND REALLY GREAT ADVICE AND HELPING US FIND OPPORTUNITIES. AND MICHELLE AS WELL FOR SETTING EVERYTHING UP, LIKE OUR CYBERSECURITY EDUCATION SERIES AT THE LIBRARY DRIVES, THINGS LIKE THAT. SHE'S ALWAYS THERE FOR US. AND YEAH. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH. AND HARVEY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING? UM, HI, MY NAME IS LENE GUERA. I'M A JUNIOR. IF YOU COULD USE THE MICROPHONE, OH, SORRY. MIC PLEASE. THANK YOU. UM, I'M A JUNIOR AT LEY HIGH SCHOOL, AND, UM, MY PROJECT SPECIFICALLY FOCUSED ON PERIOD POVERTY [00:10:01] AWARENESS, AND I LOVED BEING PART OF THE TEAM TASK FORCE BECAUSE I LOVE RAISING AWARENESS ABOUT THESE CRUCIAL ISSUES AND EMPOWERING YOUNG WOMEN. AND I WANT TO THANK, UM, OUR MENTORS FOR JUST BEING WITH US, UM, THROUGHOUT THIS JOURNEY. THANK YOU. JOE GARDNER, I DON'T HAVE A CERTIFICATE FOR YOU, BUT YOU DESERVE MORE THAN A CERTIFICATE BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS REACHING OUT AND YOU'RE, YOU'RE SO DEDICATED AND HAVE MADE SUCH A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO, UH, OUR COMMUNITY. UM, YOU KNOW, GREENBERG IS SUCH A BETTER PLACE BECAUSE OF YOUR, YOUR INVOLVEMENT, AND THAT'S LIKE AN UNDERSTATEMENT. UH, SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE TEAM OF WHY YOU GOT ON CALL BECAUSE YOU REALLY PUT IN HOURS AND HOURS? UM, I THINK THE THING THAT'S MOST MEANINGFUL TO ME ABOUT, UM, A TEEN TASK FORCE IS THE IDEA THAT, UM, YOU'RE MENTORING, UH, TEENS, NOT JUST IN PROVIDING THE COMMUNITY SERVICE, BUT IN DISCOVERING FOR YOURSELF, FOR TEENS, DISCOVERING FOR THEMSELVES, UH, WHAT IT MEANS, UH, TO A PERSON'S HEALTH AND HAPPINESS. MY LIFE IS BETTER IF I'M DOING SOMETHING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, AND THAT'S WHAT, UH, THESE KIDS, UH, ARE LEARNING, UH, BY DOING THIS WORK. SO THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST GRATIFYING THING. HOPEFULLY WE'RE DOING. THANK YOU. HI, I AM JACKIE YOUNG FROM GOOD FOR GIRLS, AND JOE INVITED US IN, UH, ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO. WE WERE INVOLVED IN A FOOD DRIVE, AND SO KNOWING THE WORK THAT THESE YOUNG LADIES DO, THE EFFORT THAT THEY PUT INTO IT, THE THOUGHT AND EVERYTHING IS SO INSPIRING. THEY DO THINGS THAT MANY OF THE ADULTS DON'T DO, SO TAKE A LESSON FROM THEM BECAUSE THEY ARE MAKING IT HAPPEN. THEY ARE OUR FUTURE, AND THEY ARE AMAZING YOUNG LADIES. JACKIE IS REALLY AMAZING. SHE STARTED THIS GOOD FOR GIRLS INITIATIVE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO, AND YOU HAVE ALSO MADE A WORLD OF A DIFFERENCE IN PEOPLE'S LIVES, AND WE'RE SO LUCKY TO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE YOU IN, IN THE COMMUNITY. UH, YOU'RE LIKE AN UNSUNG HERO. YES. UM, AND WE REALLY APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WANNA, UH, MENTION BEFORE WE START, UH, TONIGHT'S, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, MEETING, UH, WE ALSO HAVE A STUDENT NEWS NETWORK AND WE HAVE STUDENTS, UM, UH, AT DIFFERENT HIGH SCHOOLS, WOODLANDS, EDGEMONT, UM, AND THEY SET UP THEIR OWN, UH, NEWS SHOW, AND IT'S A MONTHLY NEWS SHOW. AND, UM, IT'S, THEY JUST SENT ME THE MOST RECENT CLIP, UH, UH, UH, AND IT JUST, WITH THE FAIR FIRE DEPARTMENT, THEY DEFINITELY DESERVE AN EMMY, UH, BECAUSE THE, THE SHOWS US LIKE 60 BETTER THAN AS GOOD AS 60 MINUTES, AND I'M SO IMPRESSED. AND, UM, ANY STUDENT WHO WANTS TO BE INVOLVED IN THE STUDENT NEWS NETWORK AND INTERESTED IN REPORTING, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE TEEN TASK FORCE COULD GET INVOLVED IN. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ALSO? SURE. , UH, I'M MICHELLE BLANDY. I'M THE TEEN LIBRARIAN AT THE GREENBERG LIBRARY. UM, I'VE ONLY BEEN WORKING WITH THE TEEN TASK FORCE FOR, UH, ABOUT A YEAR, BUT, UM, THEY'RE HARDWORKING GIRLS AND, UM, YOU KNOW, LIKE JACKIE SAID, THEY'RE THE, THE TEENS ARE THE FUTURE. UM, AND, UH, THEY'RE COMING UP WITH, YOU KNOW, SOME AMAZING STUFF AND, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE ALL SO PROUD OF YOU. ROLL CALL. OKAY. NEXT, [ ROLL CALL: Town Clerk Lisa Maria Nero] UH, WE HAVE, UH, ROLL CALL. ROLL CALL. ALRIGHT. ROLL CALL SUPERVISOR. PAUL FINER. HERE. COUNCILWOMAN GINA JACKSON. PRESENT COUNCILWOMAN JOY HABER. PRESENT. COUNCILWOMAN ALLEN HENDRICKS. PRESENT ATTORNEY JOE DANKO. PRESENT. OKAY. NEXT, UH, [ SUPERVISOR & TOWN COUNCIL REPORTS/ANNOUNCEMENTS Liaison Reports (Councilwoman Joy Haber, Councilwoman Ellen Hendrickx, Councilwoman Gina Jackson, Councilman Francis Sheehan) GOOD NEWS...From 2010-2025 the Town earned the highest possible rating from Moody's (Aaa), most recently on 9/9/2025. Less than 1% of communities in the nation have this record of financial stability. From 2008-2024 the Town also earned the highest possible bond rating from Standard & Poors (AAA). To reduce costs, the Town did not seek a rating from Standard & Poors in 2025. Anyone interested in serving on a board or commission should send a resume to the Town Board via Lisa Maria Nero, Town Clerk, 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607. TownClerk@GreenburghNY.com] WE HAVE, UH, LIAISON REPORTS. UH, THEY'LL BE BRIEF BECAUSE WE HAVE A LONG MEETING. UH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JOY HABER. UH, YES. I HAVE A BRIEF REPORT FROM THE, UH, COURT ADMINISTRATOR, UM, WITH THE, WE HAVE A NEW JUDGE, UH, WITH HER NEW APPOINTMENT, JUDGE LEAH RODRIGUEZ. THE [00:15:01] COURT HAS BEEN RUNNING SMOOTHLY. CASELOADS ARE NOW DIVIDED AMONG THE THREE JUDGES, AND ARE ALL, ARE WORKING COLLABORATIVELY TO IMPLEMENT POSITIVE CHANGES IN COURT OPERATIONS. THE COURT IS FUNCTIONING FIVE DAYS A WEEK, AND CASES ARE BEING SCHEDULED PROMPTLY ON MONDAYS, WEDNESDAYS, AND THURSDAY MORNINGS. THEY HANDLE TRAFFIC TICKETS, TOWN CASES, AND CIVIL MATTERS ON TUESDAYS, THURSDAY, THURSDAY AFTERNOONS AND FRIDAYS. THEY HOLD THE CRIMINAL CALENDAR WHILE STAFF ARE WORKING TOGETHER EFFICIENTLY TO SCHEDULE CASES TIMELY IN A TIMELY MANNER TO BE HEARD BY THE JUDGES. THE MORALE, THE MORALE IN THE OFFICE HAS IMPROVED AND THERE IS STRONG TEAMWORK AMONG EVERYONE. UH, OVERALL THE COURT IS, UH, FULLY UP TO DATE WITH CASELOADS AND OPERATIONS CONTINUE TO RUN SMOOTHLY AND EFFICIENTLY. UH, AND WE ALSO CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR, UH, A POTENTIAL NEW HOME FOR THE COURT, UH, IN THE FUTURE SO THAT THEY CAN BE IN A MORE COMFORTABLE ENVIRONMENT AND ONE THAT'S BETTER FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL. UM, COUNCILWOMAN ELLEN HENDRICKS. WE HAVE A WONDERFUL NETWORK OF PARKS AND IN ADDITION, WITHIN THOSE PARKS, WE HAVE TWO CENTERS WHERE WE HAVE ALL KINDS OF COMMUNITY EVENTS, AND ONE OF THEM, THE GERARD BY CENTER, HAS, UM, HOSTS ANY NUMBER OF EVENTS. AND TERENCE, WOULD YOU PLEASE START THE VIDEO AND WE'RE GOING TO SHOW YOU ONE OF THE EVENTS. ARD GREEN NAMED AFTER THE FORMER COMMISSIONER GERARD, BY WHO WAS A PREVIOUS ARTS COMMISSIONER FOR 34 YEARS. WE OFFER TONS OF CLASSES, PHOTOGRAPHY CLASSES, LANGUAGE CLASSES, EXERCISE CLASSES, TAX CLASSES, ART CLASSES, AND SO MUCH MORE COME LEARN SOMETHING NEW AT THE CENTER. THERE'S ALSO AMAZING ART ON THE WALLS AROUND THE CENTER, LIKE THIS EXHIBIT BY LOCAL ARTIST LISA MOORE. WE HAVE PLENTY ACTIVITIES LIKE PING PONG, BINGO MOVIE MATINEES, MY JEAN FOOT CLUBS, AND SO, SO MUCH MORE. STAFF HERE IS INCREDIBLE. THEY'RE ALWAYS WORKING HARD TO MAKE THE CENTER READY FOR THE EVENTS. YOU COULD FIND THEM PREPARING FOR EVENTS BEHIND THE SCENES OR OUT AND ABOUT AT THE EVENTS TO HELP OUT COME SAY HI TO THEM. THERE ARE EVENTS ALL YEAR LONG FROM HOLIDAY EVENTS LIKE OUR BREAKFAST WITH SANTA FOR KIDS WHO OUR SENIOR HOLIDAY PARTY, COLUMBUS DAY AND ST. PATRICK'S DAY. SOME OF OUR BIGGER EVENTS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR ARE SENIOR PICNIC, CELEBRATE GREENBURG, VETERANS' BARBECUE AND VETERANS' BREAKFAST. COME CHECK US OUT. SEE YOU SOON. GREAT. THAT'S A NICE VIDEO. EXCELLENT. UM, AND, UH, COUNCILWOMAN JOY HABER. OH, OKAY. I THINK SHE ALREADY, I MEAN, I'M SORRY. COUNCILWOMAN. GINA JACKSON. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. UH, TERENCE, CAN YOU RUN THE VIDEO? UM, TERENCE IS ABOUT TO QUEUE UP A VIDEO. I'M RESPONSIBLE, I'M THE LIAISON TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. HOLD ON TWO SECONDS, I'M SORRY. AND, UH, WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO MITIGATE THE FLOOD ISSUES THAT WE'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING HERE AT THE TOWN. SO WE HAVE BEEN OUT BOOTS ON THE GROUND, NOT THE DANCE, BUT WE'RE LITERALLY BOOTS ON THE GROUND LOOKING AT WHERE THE TROUBLE AREAS AND ADDRESSING THOSE TROUBLE AREAS. SO, VERY PROUD TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR DPW STAFF WHO HAS TRULY BEEN OUT THERE DAY AND NIGHT THESE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS, THIS PULLING OUT THE POUNDS AND POUNDS OF TONS AND TONS, EXCUSE ME, OF DEBRIS THAT WE HAVE FOUND THAT HAS BEEN CHOKING UP THE AREA. SO I'M GONNA PLAY THE, I'M GONNA PLAY A VIDEO JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE MAGNITUDE OF WHAT'S BEING AFFECTED AND WHAT IN THE CLEANUP THAT WE'RE BEING THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING. SO, TERENCE, YOU CAN RUN THE VIDEO. THE MANHATTAN BOOK STARTS AT THE BOARD OF GREENBURG AND MOUNT PLEASANT AT GRASSLANDS ROAD. YOU CAN SEE IT GOES THROUGH WESTCHESTER COMMUNITY COLLEGE ALONG HILLSIDE AVENUE AND KEEPS GOING SOUTH TOWARDS 2 87. AS WE GET FURTHER SOUTH, THIS IS WHERE THE WORST CHOKE SPOTS BEGIN. STARTING OFF BEHIND THE THEODORE YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER ON MANHATTAN AVENUE, YOU CAN SEE THE WORK THAT WE HAVE COMPLETED TO MAKE A ROCK WALL FOR BETTER DRAINAGE. THEN IT CROSSES DOBS FERRY ROAD AND GOES BETWEEN DOBS FERRY ROAD AND GIBSON AVENUE UNTIL IT CROSSES GIBSON AVENUE TO TOWARDS FAIR STREET. [00:20:02] AND THEN THE BROOK CROSSES FAIR STREET. SO, AS WE APPROACHED TERRYTOWN ROAD ACROSS FROM THE POLICE STATION, YOU CAN SEE THAT HERE ONE 19 IS RIGHT AHEAD. WE ALSO HAVE COLIN, WHO WORKED HARD TO CLEAR THIS AREA OUT AND CREATE A BEAUTIFUL ROCK WALL ALL WEST OF THE RAMP ON 2 87 OFF OF ONE 19. YOU CAN SEE THE DAMAGE THAT A RECENT STORM HAS DONE. WE ARE ALSO CLEARING ALL OF THESE BLOCKAGES, AND AS WE KEEP GOING EAST ALONG TERRYTOWN ROAD TOWARDS COUNTY CENTER ROAD, YOU CAN SEE THE DENSITY OF THE MATERIAL HERE. WE'RE STILL CLEARING OUT THIS AREA TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CLEARER STREAM TO MAKE SURE THE WATER FLOWS EASIER AND CLEAR. HERE YOU CAN SEE US PASS THROUGH OLD KENSICO ROAD TOWARDS THE BRONX RIVER PARKWAY, WHERE WESTCHESTER COUNTY IS PARTIALLY RESPONSIBLE. WE RECENTLY MET ON SITE TO ENSURE THAT EVERYONE WAS ON THE SAME PAGE OF THE OBSTRUCTION POINTS IN THIS AREA. WE ARE WORKING WITH WESTCHESTER COUNTY ON A JOINT MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE TO ENSURE THAT WE ADDRESS THESE AREAS. TIMING, AND IN ADDITION, THIS EVENING, UH, WE WERE IN PARKWAY HOMES THIS EVENING, AND SO WE WILL BE AT PARKWAY HOMES BEGINNING THAT PROCESS, UH, BY WEDNESDAY. SO WE ARE HITTING ALL OF THE TROUBLE AREAS, AND THEN WE ARE MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE GOING TO SCHEDULE, SO WE CONTINUE TO GO IN A LOOP. SO THAT IS PUBLIC WORKS, BUT I HAVE ONE MORE REPORT BECAUSE, UM, I ALSO WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. SORRY EVERYONE, BUT I KNOW WHERE WE WANTED, BUT I JUST WANTED TO REALLY, UM, RECOGNIZE THAT, UM, OUR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT CHIEF, UM, SERGEANT FONT JUST PROMOTED HIM, FORGIVE ME, SERGEANT FONTELLA AND A FEW MEMBERS OF THE TRAFFIC UNIT. UM, WE ATTENDED THE AA ANNUAL COMMUNITY TRAFFIC SAFETY LUNCHEON, WHERE THEY RECEIVED THE AA PLATINUM AWARD FOR DEPARTMENT EFFORTS IN MAKING AIR, MAKING OUR ROADWAY SAFER. OUR COMMUNITY OF AFFAIRS UNIT AND TRAFFIC UNIT PARTICIPATE IN INAUGURAL RJ BAILEY WALK, ENROLLED TO SCHOOL DAY EVENT. THIS WAS ORGANIZED BY THE RJ BAILEY, PTA AND CONDUCTED IN WAS CONDUCTED WITH THE POLICE STAFF STUDENTS TO HIGHLIGHT TRAFFIC AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. THERE WERE ALSO, THERE ARE ALSO A NUMBER OF HALLOWEENS, UH, EVENTS THAT'S COMING UP THIS WEEKEND, WHICH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS ASSISTED IN AND PARTICIPATING IN A FEW, UH, TO NAME OUR TRUNK AND TREAT AT LEE F JACKSON SCHOOL, SPOOK OCTOBER FEST LAST FRIDAY, AND THE UPCOMING CON HALLOWEEN CARNIVAL AT THE THEDO YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH IS HAPPENING THIS FRIDAY AT 6:00 PM AND WE ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF EVENTS HAPPENING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT. THAT WAS AN EXCELLENT REPORT ON THE, THE FLOODING. AND WE WERE ALSO ASKING FOR, UM, THE STATE TO GIVE US PERMISSION TO REMOVE A BRIDGE, AN ABANDONED BRIDGE, UM, UH, NEAR THE SOMO RIVER PARKWAY, UH, NEAR SOMO RIVER OR PARKWAY IN, IN ELMSFORD, BECAUSE THAT COULD BASICALLY, UH, REDUCE FLOODING IN BTT COURT IN, IN THAT AREA. WE NEED PERMISSION FROM THE STATE DEC AND FROM THE COUNTY. AND THAT'S SORT OF A, A PRIORITY PRIORITY. EVERY TIME THERE'S A MAJOR OR MEDIUM STORM, IT ALWAYS FLOODS AND ABBOT COURT BECOMES A SWIMMING POOL. UM, BUT, BUT, YOU KNOW, SO, SO I REALLY AM VERY IMPRESSED WITH, UH, ALL THE THINGS THAT, UM, ARE BEING DONE. AND I LIKE THE VIDEO BECAUSE IT REALLY HIGHLIGHTS THE FACT THAT WE'RE WORKING REALLY HARD TO REMOVE OBSTRUCTIONS. WE'RE NEVER GONNA BE ABLE TO SOLVE THE PROBLEMS OF FLOODING WHERE WE COULD MINIMIZE IT BY GETTING RID OF THE OBSTRUCTIONS AND TAKING SOME, YOU KNOW, SOME ACTIONS. SO WE'RE REALLY, UH, UH, PLEASED. AND I JUST WANNA MENTION IN TERMS OF HEART SALE, BECAUSE I'M LIAISON TO THE PARKING DISTRICT, UM, UH, KEY FOODS SIGNED A LEASE. UM, UH, THEY'RE GONNA BE TAKING OVER THE RITE AID, THE ABANDONED RITE AID, UH, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY. AND THAT SHOULD BE THIS WINTER OF THE HARTSDALE FARMER'S MARKET. UH, THE FARMER BASICALLY, UH, DECIDED AFTER 30 YEARS HE DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT ANYMORE. UH, SO WE GOT ANOTHER FARMER. UM, AND DURING THE PAST MONTH, UH, OR SO, THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING IN VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL. SO WE'RE REALLY PLEASED. HE'S, UH, HE'S SO PLEASED WITH THE, UH, THE STATUS OF THE HARD SALE FARMER'S MARKET THAT HE BASICALLY, UM, IS GONNA REST THE TOWN IF HE COULD HAVE REDUCED HOURS DURING THE MU WINTER MONTHS. SO MOST FARMERS MARKETS CLOSE AROUND THANKSGIVING. HE'S GONNA GO AFTER THANKSGIVING. UM, UH, [00:25:01] THE GREENBERG, UH, FARMER'S MARKET ON EL ELM AND MANHATTAN AVENUE HEADED BY COLBY JENKINS IS REALLY AMAZING BECAUSE IT, UH, IT'S THE ONLY MARKET OF ITS KIND IN THE WHOLE REGION THAT GIVES FREE PRODUCE TO EVERYBODY WHO, UM, WHO SHOWS UP. AND IT'S NOT INCOME BASED, IT'S ANYBODY WHO BASICALLY IS HUNGRY AND WANTS TO GET FREE PRODUCE TO GO THERE. AND, UH, IT'S EVERY OTHER, UH, SATURDAY TILL, UM, UH, TILL THANKSGIVING. I THINK THERE'S ONE THIS WEEKEND, YES, THIS WEEKEND, THIS ONE, THIS. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S BASICALLY, UM, THE REPORT FOR EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE. WE'RE THINKING OF ORGANIZING, UM, UM, SOME SORT OF, UM, LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF RESTAURANTS THERE, AND I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY NICE IF WE COULD HAVE LIKE, FOOD TASTINGS WITH LOCAL RESTAURANTS. AND I'M THINKING OF RECOMMENDING THAT MAYBE WE REACH OUT TO DANCE STUDIOS OR, UM, MUSICIANS AND HAVE PERFORMANCES AT DESANTE, UH, PLAZA WHILE, UM, WHILE WE HAVE THE FOOD TASTING AS A WAY OF GENERATING MORE PEDESTRIAN, UH, TRAFFIC. BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF NEW, UH, STORES ON EAST HARSDALE AVENUE, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT THE STORES. UH, SO THAT, THOSE ARE JUST A FEW THINGS THAT I WANNA MENTION. AND NOW, UM, UM, I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO PLUG THAT WE HAVE A GREENBURG CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. SO AS THE SUPERVISOR JUST MENTIONED, UM, UH, STORES COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS, WE ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE, UH, CHECK OUT THE GREENBURG CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND OUR, UH, CABLE DIRECTOR, TERRENCE BROSNAN. HE MADE MOST OF THE VIDEOS. I THINK HE HAD SOME HELP FROM HIS FRIENDS AND MAYBE, UH, A, A FLYING OBJECT OR TWO, AND THE NARRATOR OF THE . SO I COMMEND THEM. GREAT, GREAT. THANK YOU. SO IF YOU GET AN EMMY AWARD FOR THAT, THEN I'LL, UH, WE'LL, UH, I WANNA GET AN EMMY AWARD SO EVERYBODY CAN GO HOME TONIGHT. ALL RIGHT. LET'S HEAR, LET'S HEAR, LET'S HEAR, LET'S HEAR IT FROM THE COMMUNITY, PLEASE. GREAT. OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE [ To consider an Amended Site Plan application by Brixmor SPE 6 LLC for Dalewood Shopping Center II [353-371 Central Avenue North, P.O. Hartsdale, NY] & Dalewood Shopping Center III [401-425 Central Avenue North, P. O. Hartsdale, NY] [TB 25-08] ] PUBLIC HEARINGS. UH, THE FIRST HEARING IS TO CONSIDER AN AMENDED SITE PLAN APPLICATION BY SMORE, SPE SIX LLC FOR DALEWOOD SHOPPING CENTER. UM, 3 5 3 3 71 CENTRAL AVENUE, NORTH PO HARTSDALE, NEW YORK, AND DALEWOOD SHOPPING CENTER. UH, 3 4 0 1 4 25 CENTRAL AVENUE, NORTH PO HARTSDALE, NEW YORK. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN THE HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR. FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD. GARRETT DUQUE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION. THIS IS A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING FROM OCTOBER 8TH, 2025, AND IS RELATED TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN APPLICATION OF BRICKS MOORE, THE SITE OWNER RELATED TO PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE EXISTING PARKING LOTS AND DRIVE AISLE CONFIGURATIONS AT THE SHOPPING CENTERS KNOWN AS DALEWOOD TWO AND THREE. THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING, THE TOWN BOARD AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTED AND RECOMMENDED THAT A FEW ASPECTS OF THE SITE PLAN BE REVIEWED FOR POTENTIAL IMPROVEMENTS. THOSE WERE PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO A DA PARKING SPACES AND LANDSCAPING ALONG CENTRAL PARK AVENUE. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE AND PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER, COLETTE DELORO, IT'S HERE TO PRESENT UPDATES. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. UH, GIMME ONE SECOND WHILE I SHARE MY SCREEN. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. UH, MY NAME IS COLETTE DELORO, UH, SENIOR PROJECT MANAGER AT LANGAN. UH, THE CIVIL ENGINEER ON THE PROJECT, UH, WHEN WE WERE HERE A COUPLE MONTHS AGO, I MEAN, A COUPLE MONTHS, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO PRESENTING TO YOU, UH, THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT A DA PARKING STALLS LOCATED PLAN, UM, RIGHT, RIGHT HERE. AND THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT, UH, SAFETY. SO WE'VE NOW RELOCATED THOSE A DA PARKING STALLS TO BE MORE CENTRALLY LOCATED AWAY FROM, UM, THAT SIDE AREA SO THAT THEY CAN ACCESS THE NEW RETAIL, RETAIL AND GROCERY STORES. SO THOSE ARE THE CHANGES THAT WE'VE MADE SINCE WE WERE HERE LAST, UH, WE ALSO HAD, UH, A COUPLE OF PUBLIC COMMENTS COME IN AND WE ARE READY TO IMPLEMENT, UH, A COUPLE OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE SUGGESTED. SO I'D LIKE TO SHARE THAT WITH YOU TODAY AS WELL. SO, ORIGINALLY WE WERE SHOWING A DA PARKING STALLS, UH, LINED UP ALONG THE DRIVE AISLE. UM, AND ONE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTS WAS, YOU KNOW, CONCERNED, UH, WITH THE SAFETY OF THAT. SO WE'VE TAKEN ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS ISLAND AND, UH, MOVED THE A DA PARKING STALLS AWAY FROM THE MAIN DRIVE AISLE, UM, AS YOU CAN SEE HERE. SO THIS IS OUR PROPOSAL TO ENHANCE THE A DA PARKING STALLS IN THIS, UH, PARTICULAR AREA AS WELL. THAT'S GREAT. DOES ANYBODY WANT TO SPEAK FIRST? COME FOR SERVE . [00:30:01] THAT'S GREAT. THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. GREAT. THIS IS REALLY GREAT. YOU KNOW, THIS IS DEMOCRACY IN ACTION WHERE, UH, WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING, PEOPLE MADE SUGGESTIONS AND YOU LISTENED AND, UM, THIS IS THE WAY GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE RUN. SO THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSIVENESS TO THE CONCERNS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OF COURSE. THANK YOU ALL. GREAT. OKAY, NEXT [ To consider two agreements between the Town of Greenburgh and the Village of Ardsley to provide Fire Protection Services to Unincorporated area residents of the Chauncey and South Ardsley Fire Protection Districts, respectively, for the year 2024] HEARING IS TO CONSIDER TWO AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF LEY TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO UNINCORPORATED AREA RESIDENTS OF THE TRUANCY AND SOUTH LEY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICTS. RESPECTFULLY, FOR THE YEAR 2024. LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN THE HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. UM, ANYBODY LIKE TO COMMENT? I, I WOULD, I'LL BE QUICK BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THE AUDIENCE IS HERE FOR THESE CONTRACTS TONIGHT, BUT, UM, THIS, THIS, THESE FIRST SET OF CONTRACTS, UH, DEAL WITH PAYMENTS FROM THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO THE VILLAGE OF LEY, AND IT WOULD BE IN THE SUM OF $370,203, UM, FOR THE, UH, SORRY VILLA, UH, FOR THE CHAUNCEY, EXCUSE ME, FOR THE SOUTH LEY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR THE YEAR 2024, AND ALSO A PAYMENT OF $11,536,000 TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES FOR THE CHAUNCEY, UH, FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT. BOTH CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN POSTED ONLINE, UM, FOLLOW PROFORMA, ALL THE OTHER FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT CONTRACTS THAT WE'VE BEEN PASSING. GREAT. ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK? NOPE. OKAY, THEN I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS. SECOND, SECOND, SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. OKAY. NEXT HEARING TO [ To consider two agreements between the Town of Greenburgh and the Village of Ardsley to provide Fire Protection Services to Unincorporated area residents of the Chauncey and South Ardsley Fire Protection Districts, respectively, for the year 2025] CONSIDER TWO AGREEMENTS BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE VILLAGE OF LEY TO PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO UNINCORPORATED AREA RESIDENTS OF THE LEY AND SOUTH LEY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICTS. RESPECTFULLY FOR THE YEAR 2025. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN THE HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. SO THESE ARE THE SAME STYLE CONTRACTS EXCEPT FOR THE YEAR 2025, UH, PAYMENT FROM THE TOWN TO THE VILLAGE AND TOTAL OF $385,420 FOR THE SOUTH ARDSLEY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT AND A PAYMENT OF $12,625 FOR THE CHAUNCEY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT. ANYBODY LIKE TO SPEAK? UM, I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. UM, [ To consider a Local Law which would establish Accessory Dwelling Units in specified Zoning Districts, with related updates to Sections 250-19, 285-5, 285-10, 285-36, 285-38, 285-39 and 285-56 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh [TB 23-09] s] TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW WHICH WOULD ESTABLISH ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS AND SPECIFIED ZONING, UH, DISTRICTS WOULD RELATED UPDATES TO SECTION TWO 50 DASH 19 2 85 DASH 5 2 85 DASH TEN TWO EIGHTY FIVE, THIRTY SIX, TWO EIGHTY FIVE, THIRTY EIGHT, TWO EIGHTY FIVE THIRTY NINE, AND 2 85 56 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN THE HEARING. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR FEER, MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, I'M GARY DUQUE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION. THIS CONTINUED HEARING IS RELATED TO A ZONING TEXT AMENDMENT, WHICH SEEKS TO REGULATE AND PERMIT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS OR ADUS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. THE LAST PUBLIC HEARING OCCURRED ON SEPTEMBER 10TH, 2025. IN RESPONSE TO COMMENTS FROM RESIDENTS IN THE TOWN BOARD, THE LOCAL LAW IS UPDATED IN SUPPORT OF THE HEARING TONIGHT. THE CHANGES WERE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED TO THE LAW SO THAT ANYONE TRACKING VERSION TO VERSION COULD SEE THOSE EDITS. IN ADDITION TO SOME MINOR FORMATTING CHANGES, THE SUBSTANTIVE CHANGES CONSIST OF THE FOLLOWING WITH RESPECT TO LOT SIZE. IF AN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT IS PROPOSED WITHIN AN EXISTING DWELLING WITH NO CHANGE TO THE FIRST FLOOR FOOTPRINT, THERE ARE NO PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS TO THE DRIVEWAY WITHIN THE FRONT YARD. THE MINIMUM REQUIRED LOT SIZE IS NOW PROPOSED TO BE 7,500 SQUARE FEET. THE RANGE OF A DU SIZES HAS ALWAYS BEEN 400 TO 800 SQUARE FEET, WITH ONE EXCEPTION THAT PERMITS AN A DU OVER 800 SQUARE FEET, WHICH HAS BEEN A PART OF SEVERAL VERSIONS OF THE LOCAL LAW. THIS SECTION HAS BEEN CLARIFIED TO ENSURE THAT IT CAN ONLY BE APPLIED WHEN THERE IS NO EXPANSION TO THE FOOTPRINT OF THE EXISTING RESIDENCE. THE REFERENCE TO SECTION 2 85 39 D HAS BEEN ADDED TO COMPLEMENT THE GROSS FLOOR AREA PORTION THAT EXISTS IN THE TOWN CODE. UNDER THE PERMIT CAP SECTION, THERE IS NOW REFERENCE ADDED TO WHAT CONSTITUTES A COMPLETE APPLICATION, SO THERE'S NO AMBIGUITY THERE. AND LASTLY, A REQUIREMENT THAT A BUILDING PERMIT BE RECEIVED WITHIN SIX MONTHS OF THE SPECIAL PERMIT HAS BEEN ADDED. ASIDE FROM THAT, THE LOCAL LAW CONTINUES TO HAVE THE NUMEROUS CRITERIA, WHICH ARE ALL DESIGNED TO ENSURE THAT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG CAN BROADEN ITS AVAILABLE HOUSING OPTIONS IN THE TOWN AND APPROVE ADUS THAT ARE CONSISTENT WITH NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER [00:35:01] HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY, SO YOU'LL IF SPEAK, YES, WE HAVE, WE HAVE THREE SPEAKERS. OKAY. OUR FIRST SPEAKER FOR THIS HEARING WILL BE SHERRY UCHI. WHILE THE FIRST SPEAKER APPROACHES, I JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE TONIGHT FOR BOTH OF THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS, A CONTINUOUS FIVE MINUTE CLOCK, WE WILL RUN ONCE YOU START SPEAKING. WE HAVE CLOCKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROOM. UM, IF YOU WANT TO ASK A QUESTION, WE CAN ANSWER, BUT THAT WILL BE TAKEN FROM YOUR TIME. UM, THERE WILL BE NO INTERRUPTIONS DURING YOUR DISCUSSION, AND PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL OF, OF OTHER PEOPLE'S TIMES. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT. WE WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE GETS THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. OKAY. GOOD EVENING. I'M SHERRY YUJI, AND I LIVE AT THREE STEVENS LANE. EARLY THIS YEAR, I BECAME INTERESTED IN ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. ADU, MY LATE MOTHER-IN-LAW HAD LIVED WITH US FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. I STARTED TO THINK ABOUT TURNING THE SPACE SHE USED INTO A SMALL APARTMENT TO HELP PAY THE BILLS. IT WOULD BE A CLOSE IN PROJECT JUST ADDING A STOVE AND A FEW OTHER MINOR UPGRADES. SO I BEGAN FOLLOWING THE TOWN'S A DU DISCUSSIONS. I CAME TO MEETINGS, SPOKE A FEW TIMES, AND I BELIEVED, AND I STILL DO THAT ADUS CAN BE A SMART, RESPONSIBLE WAY TO CREATE HOUSING WITHOUT CHANGING THE FIELD OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. BUT HERE'S THE IRONIC PART. WHILE I WAS ADVOCATING FOR A NEW LAW TO BUILD ONE TINY LITTLE APARTMENT IN MY HOME, I STUMBLED UPON PLANS FOR THE K KNOWLES ASSISTED LIVING TO DO A MEGA EXPANSION OF 75 APARTMENTS RIGHT BEHIND MY HOME. THIS EXPERIENCE HAS OPENED MY EYES TO WHY PEOPLE ARE SO CAUTIOUS ABOUT CHANGE IN ZONING. I'VE LEARNED THAT PEOPLE CAN AND WILL PROPOSE EXTREME, RADICAL AND TRULY CRAZY THINGS NEXT DOOR, THINGS THAT CAN UTTERLY DEVASTATE THEIR NEIGHBORS. IN MY OWN CASE, THE MEGA EXPANSION PROPOSES OVER 20 BALCONIES OVERLOOKING MY BACKYARD PATIO AND A ROADWAY ON A TALL RETAINING WALL WITH STREETLIGHTS JUST 12 FEET FROM MY PROPERTY. SO THERE ALSO GOES THE PLANS FOR MY HOT TUB. SO THIS WHOLE PROCESS HAS DEFINITELY HUMBLED ME. I NOW TRULY UNDERSTAND THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE PEOPLE WHO SPOKE AGAINST ADUS. THEY ARE NOT CRAZY, THEY WEREN'T OPPOSING HOUSING. THEY WERE ASKING FOR RESPECT AND CONSIDERATION FOR THE ZONING RULES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE. THEY WANTED FAIRNESS AND BALANCE. I CAN SEE NOW MORE CLEARLY WHY THOSE RULES MATTER, AND I APPRECIATE THEIR FORESIGHT. NO ONE'S HOME SHOULD BE DEVASTATED BY AN A DU PROJECT HAPPENING NEXT DOOR. AND JUST BECAUSE MY PROPOSAL IS MODEST, SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPOSAL MAY NOT BE. SO I DOSE, I DO STILL SUPPORT ADUS, BUT I FULLY SUPPORT VERY STRONG RESTRICTIONS, THINGS LIKE LIMITS ON SIZE, PARKING AND HEIGHT. IT HAS TAKEN A LONG TIME TO CONSIDER THIS LAW AND THAT TRULY FRUSTRATED ME AT TIMES. IF PASSED, IT WILL BE A SLOW ROLLOUT AND A VERY LIMITED TEST I HAVE COME TO REALIZE THAT'S NOT A BAD THING. ZONING RULES EXIST FOR A REASON TO ENSURE GROWTH HAPPENS THOUGHTFULLY, OPENLY, AND WITH REAL PROTECTION FOR RESIDENTS FROM CRAZY, CRAZY PROJECTS. CAREFUL, DELIBERATE IMPLEMENTATION IS NOT A WEAKNESS, IT IS BEING RESPONSIBLE. SO MY OWN PLANS FOR AN A DU AND THE HOT TUB ARE ON PAUSE FOR NOW. WHO WOULD WANT TO RENT FROM ME? WITH A MEGA CONSTRUCTION PROJECT POTENTIALLY INCURRING IN MY BACKYARD? I HAVE TO FOCUS MY ENERGY AND MY POCKETBOOK ON DEFENDING MY HOME. NOW, I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT ZONING RULES AND PROCESS WILL BE THOUGHTFULLY RESPECTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, OUR SECOND SPEAKER IS HUGH SCHWARTZ, HUG SCHWARTZ, 32 SHERWOOD PLACE, EDGEMONT. UM, FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU GARRETT FOR GETTING THIS OUT IN TIME TO GIVE US A CHANCE TO ACTUALLY READ IT. I REALLY APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL TIME THAT THAT WAS GREAT. UH, THE REVIS, THE REVISIONS THAT, THAT GARRETT DISCUSSED, APPEAR TO BE AN ATTEMPT TO DEVELOP A COMPROMISE TO ALLOW VUS AND WATS SIZES BETWEEN 70 510,000 SQUARE FEET. I DON'T THINK WE WOULD'VE GOTTEN HERE IF JOY HABER HADN'T WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET THAT COMPROMISE. IN FACT, I'M SURE OF IT. UNFORTUNATELY, THE COMPROMISE THAT WAS PRODUCED IS A COMPROMISE NAME ONLY AND IS [00:40:01] UNLIKELY TO ALLOW PEOPLE WITH FLAT LOCK SIZE TO BUILD ADUS. THE REASON IS ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS WERE PUT IN FOR THESE SMALLER LOTS THAT ARE MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE EXISTING ZONING. WHAT I THINK THE PERSON BEFORE ME DOESN'T UNDERSTAND IS THE UNDERLYING ZONING WAS THERE TO PROTECT EVERYBODY FROM NOT DOING A CRAZY PROJECT. AND THAT'S WHY THERE ARE LIMITS ON SIZE AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE IN, IN THE LAW. HERE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THE RESTRICTIONS, THE ADDITIONAL RESTRICTIONS, THE PROVISION ONLY ALLOWS ADU WITHIN AN EXISTING RESIDENTIAL FOOTPRINT. THIS APPEARS TO MEAN, AND IF IT DOESN'T, THE LANGUAGE NEEDS TO BE FIXED, THAT EVEN AN EXISTING GARAGE COULD NOT BE CONVERTED. THAT'S NUMBER ONE. TWO, THE PROVISION FORBIDS THE EXPANSION OF THE FOOTPRINT OF THE RESIDENCE, EVEN IF IT WOULD MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE UNDERLYING ZONE. SO IN OTHER WORDS, SOMEONE COULD DO, LIKE THIS LADY DID BUILD A A, AN EXPANSION IF IT'S WITHIN THE ZONING LAW, PUT A BATHROOM IN, PUT A BAR IN, IN A REFRIGERATOR, BUT JUST COULDN'T, COULDN'T PUT A STOVE IN. AND THAT WOULD BE COMPLETELY LEGAL UNDER OUR ZONING LAW. BUT YOU CAN'T DO AN A DU. THAT'S, THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE. FINALLY, THE PROVISION DOES NOT ALLOW FOR THE EXPANSION OF A DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT YARD, EVEN IF THE CURRENT DRIVEWAY IS ONLY ONE CAR WIDE. NOW, GARRETT HAD ALREADY PUT IN LANGUAGE. IT SAYS IT COULDN'T GO IN FRONT, THE NEW PARKING SPACE COULDN'T GO IN FRONT OF THE FOOTPRINT. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT AND I AGREE WITH THAT A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT OUR ZONING CODES IS YOU CAN HAVE A TWO CAR WIDE DRIVEWAY. WELL, HOW ABOUT SOMEBODY WHO HAS ONE CAR, ONE CAR DRIVEWAY NOW, OKAY, THEY WON'T BE ABLE TO EXPAND IT FOR THE A DU BECAUSE OF THIS SLOT. IT'S MORE RESTRICTED AGAIN THAN THE ZONING CODE IS. UM, THE REAL PROBLEM IS WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS ENCOURAGING THESE PEOPLE TO WIRE AROUND AROUND THE BECAUSE THESE PEOPLE CAN DO ALL THOSE THINGS. JUST NOT PUT A KITCHEN IN, OR AT LEAST PUT A, YOU KNOW, PUT IT IN A REFRIGERATOR IN A SINK, BUT JUST DON'T PUT A HU DON'T PUT A HOT PLATE WOULD SAY HIDE IF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR COMES AND, AND WITHOUT PARKING, BY THE WAY. SO YOU'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU'RE TRYING, YOU'RE REALLY ATTEMPTING TO DO. AGAIN, I APPRECIATE TRYING TO COMPROMISE. I DON'T AGREE WITH THE COMPROMISE. I THINK EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN R FIVE, BUT AT LEAST IF YOU'RE GONNA DO IT, DON'T PUT MORE RESTRICTIONS IN THAN ALREADY IN THE CODE. THE CODE DOES IT. AND GARY DID A WONDERFUL JOB WHEN HE HELPED, WHEN HE DEVELOPED THE LAW WITH THE A VL TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS IN, IN CONCERT WITH, WITH THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. UH, DI DYLAN, ARE YOU SPEAKING? UH, . OKAY, SO OUR THIRD SPEAKER WILL BE CAROL ALLEN. GOOD EVENING TOWN BOARD MEMBERS. GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS CAROL ALLEN FROM HARTSDALE 19 BEACHWOOD ROAD. AS YOU ARE ALL AWARE, I FREELY GIVE MY TIME, ENERGY, AND TALENTS TO SUPPORT WORTHWHILE ENDEAVORS IN OUR TOWN. SO I AM HERE ONCE AGAIN THIS EVENING TO GIVE MY THOUGHTS ON THE PROPOSED A DU LAW IN YOUR WORK SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 30TH, MRS. HABER, IN ATTEMPT TO GET A COMPROMISE WITH THOSE OF YOU WHO INSISTED UPON THE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT SIZE FOR CREATING THE ADU, QUOTED THAT THERE ARE THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX PARCELS IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG THAT WOULD BE UNABLE TO HAVE AN A DU UNDER THE CURRENT THEN CURRENT VERSION OF THE LAW BECAUSE THEIR LOTS WERE LESS THAN THE SPECIFIED SIZES. I AM THEREFORE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS OF THOSE THIRTY FIVE HUNDRED AND SEVENTY SIX PARCELS, WHOSE POSSIBLE NEEDS ARE BEING IGNORED BY CERTAIN MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE WIDOWS AND WIDOWERS WHO ARE NOW LIVING ALONE AND WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM BEING ABLE TO LEGALLY HAVE A FRIEND, COMPANION OR FAMILY MEMBER LIVE WITH THEM TO SUPPORT THEM PHYSICALLY, EMOTIONALLY, OR FINANCIALLY. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE FAMILIES WHO MIGHT BE FACING FINANCIAL HARDSHIP DUE TO THE RISING COST OF LIVING WHO MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO STAY IN THEIR HOMES IN GREENBURG WITHOUT A BOOST IN THEIR DISPOSABLE INCOME. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE YOUNG ADULTS WHO GREW UP IN GREENBURG, WHO CANNOT AFFORD TO REMAIN HERE UNLESS THEY LIVE WITH THEIR PARENTS. THESE YOUNG ADULTS ALREADY STRUGGLE WITH FEELINGS OF FAILURE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT AFFORD TO LIVE ON THEIR OWN. THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO LIVE WITH A GREATER SENSE OF DIGNITY IF THEY HAD A SEPARATE SPACE IN [00:45:01] THEIR PARENTS' HOME TO CALL THEIR OWN. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS WHOSE PARCELS ARE UNDER THE CURRENT LIMITS THAT ARE IN THE LAW, WHO WOULD BE INELIGIBLE TO CREATE AN A DU. YOU ARE INSISTING THAT ONLY THOSE WHO ARE LUCKY OR WEALTHY ENOUGH TO HAVE LARGE LOTS WOULD BENEFIT FROM THIS NEW LAW. YOU'RE COMPLETELY IGNORING THE PLEAS OF THOSE OF US WITH SMALLER LOT SIZES WHO ARE ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE CHARACTER OF THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. WE TOO ARE CIVIC-MINDED AND WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE WONDERFUL TOWN INTO WHICH WE MOVED. WE TOO REALIZE THAT ADDITIONAL RESIDENTS IN TOWN WILL PLACE HIGHER DEMAND ON TOWN SERVICES. THE REALITY IS, HOWEVER, THAT YOU ARE BEING UNFAIR TO A LARGE SEGMENT OF OUR COMMUNITY. BY PLACING THE RESTRICTIONS ON ADUS THAT YOU HAVE INCORPORATED INTO THE PROPOSED LAW, I URGE YOU TO RETURN TO A WORK SESSION AND HAVE A SUBSTANTIVE DISCUSSION OF THE PROS AND THE CONS OF THE PROPOSED LAW AND HASH OUT A LAW THAT WILL ACHIEVE YOUR OBJECTIVES AND STILL BE FAIR TO ALL OF THE TOWN RESIDENTS. THIS CURRENT V VERSION IS STILL UNACCEPTABLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS JUDITH BEVILLE. GOOD EVENING EVERYONE. I'M JUDITH BEVILLE, HONORABLE JUDITH BEVILLE, FORMER TOWN CLERK, TOWN OF GREENBURG, 2008 TO 2023. UH, I WAS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL DURING THE TIME THAT THIS ISSUE, UM, FIRST, UH, BEGAN TO TAKE HOLD IN IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND, UM, AND ALL OVER THROUGHOUT WESTCHESTER. IT'S A VERY CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE AND, UM, UH, MUCH OF IT, UH, MUCH OF THE CONTROVERSY HAS TO, TO DO WITH THE, UM, THE FACT THAT ADUS, UH, UH, HELP A MUNICIPALITY TO, UH, ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE AN A DU, IF YOU ALLOW ADU IN YOUR MUNICIPALITY, THEN YOU'RE, YOU CAN SOMEHOW WEASEL AROUND A, AN EXPECTATION OF DEVELOPERS OR HOLDING DEVELOPERS RESPONSIBLE FOR, UM, ENSURING 20% OF OF NEW UNITS BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM, I I, I KNOW THERE ARE A LOT OF PROS AND CONS ON, ON THIS ISSUE. UM, HOWEVER, I JUST ASKED THE BOARD, UM, TO, TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT ADU WILL CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF COMMUNITIES. THE TOWN OF GREENBURG HAS PRIDED ITSELF IN BEING ABLE TO ATTRACT AND, AND, UH, UH, UH, PEOPLE TO, TO THIS TOWN. UM, BASED ON THE FACT THAT IT, YOU KNOW, THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES ARE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING UNITS. WELL, ADUS WILL CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF, OF, OF THAT DESCRIPTION. UM, UH, AND ALSO I ASK THE, THE TOWN BOARD TO CONSIDER THE FACT THAT, UM, IF, IF I HAVE AN A DU NEXT TO ME, THE VALUE OF THEIR PROPERTY IS GOING TO GO SO IS GONNA SOAR. AND I FEEL THAT YOU CANNOT OR SHOULD NOT ASSESS THE SAME VALUE TO MY PROPERTY THAT YOU WOULD TO A PROPERTY THAT HAS INCOME GENERATING CAPABILITY. IF I DON'T HAVE AN A DU AND MY NEIGHBOR DOES THAT SHOULD DESIGNATE A SEPARATE TAX CATEGORY, AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD DOESN'T HAVE AN A DU SHOULD NOT BE ASSESSED THE SAME AMOUNT AS THE ONE WHO IS BRINGING IN INCREASED INCOME INTO THEIR PROPERTY. THE OTHER QUESTION I'D LIKE, UH, REQUEST, UH, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, RAISE IS, IS, AND THIS MAY BE IN THE LAW ALREADY, I DON'T KNOW, BUT THAT PROPERTIES THAT BUILD ADUS ARE REQUIRED TO BUILD PARKING SPACES ON THE PROPERTY SO THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO LIVE IN ADUS ARE NOT CREATING INCREASED CONGESTION WITH PARKING CARS ON THE STREETS, AND THEN THEY CAN'T FROM DECEMBER 1ST [00:50:01] TO MARCH, WHATEVER THE DATE IS. UM, SO THOSE ARE JUST SOME CONCERNS. UM, YOU'RE CHANGING THE CHARACTER AND THE NATURE OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE FOR CENTURIES BEEN, UM, PRESENTED AS SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, UM, UNITS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. AND OUR LAST SPEAKER IS GONNA BE WALTER SIMON. GOOD EVENING. UH, FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE. I HAD ALL MY NOTES AND EVERYTHING IN A BEAUTIFUL LEATHER POUCH, A LEATHER BAG THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME AS A BIRTHDAY GIFT. I WENT INTO MEN'S ROOM, LAID ON THE COUNTER. THE PERSON IN THE STALL NEXT TO ME LEFT AND MY POUCH WAS GONE WITH ALL MY NOTES. SO FORGIVE ME IF I MIGHT RAM RAMBLE ON. UH, I LIKE TO SAY I THOROUGHLY AGREE WITH EVERY WORD SPOKEN BY CAROL ALLEN AND YOU SCHWARTZ. SO I WOULD NOT GOING TO REPEAT THAT BECAUSE I THOROUGHLY AGREE WITH THAT. I ALSO, UH, UH, APPRECIATE THE EFFORT THAT JOY HABER MADE IN TRYING TO GET A, A COMPROMISE, BUT THIS PARTICULAR LAW DOES NOT REACH THE COMPROMISE AS, UH, UH, USE WANTS ACCURATELY INDICATED BECAUSE THERE IS SO MUCH RESTRICTIONS IN ORDER TO GET, UH, APPROVAL OF A 7.5 THAT IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER. IN ADDITION, THE WORD FAMILY CREEPS INTO THE DEFINITION. I THOUGHT THAT WAS ELIMINATED, BUT IN, IN IF YEAH, I NOTED THAT IN MY NOTES SOMEPLACE IN THERE IT SAYS IF, UH, UH, IT, IT TALKS ABOUT A FAMILY WITH NO DEFINITION OF A FAMILY. I THOUGHT WE, SORRY, ARE YOU SPEAKING TO THE, UH, THE FIRST UNDER TITLE ONE FAMILY? UNFORTUNATELY, ALL MY NOTES WERE JUST STOLEN, SO I'M TRYING TO DO IT FROM BEFORE YOU GO ON. WAS IT HERE IN THIS RESTROOM? YEAH. RIGHT, RIGHT, RIGHT IN THE RESTROOM HERE. DID YOU REPORT IT? WELL, I JUST, THAT'S WHY WE'RE WE'RE WE'RE GONNA LOOK INTO IT. YEAH, WE WE'RE GIVING THE TIME BACK. WE'LL LOOK INTO IT. OKAY. OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE I'M PLEASED. ALLOW ME A FEW EXTRA MINUTES. OKAY, THANK YOU. BUT, BUT IT'S IN THERE SOMEHOW. IT'S IN THERE. I KNOW IT'S IN THERE, RIGHT. BUT ANYHOW. I SEE. OKAY. UH, BUT A POINT I WANT TO, UH, PUT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS HAVE BEEN LOST WHEN WE FIRST STARTED OUT WITH THIS WHOLE A DU, WE SAID THAT WE RECOGNIZED THERE ARE SOME ILLEGAL MULTI-FAMILY HOMES, UH, IN THE TOWN. AND, AND, UH, OUR VERY ORIGINAL PROPOSAL INDICATED THAT IF YOU WERE IN A ILLEGAL MULTI-FAMILY HOME, WE GAVE YOU A PERIOD OF TIME WHERE YOU COULD APPLY TO GET IT LEGALIZED FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT COULD COME IN AND YOU MAKE ALL THE NECESSARY ARRANGEMENTS FOR EGRESS AND FIRE AND EGRESS AND FIRE AND EVERYTHING ELSE. AND IF YOU DID IT WITHIN THAT PERIOD OF TIME, WHATEVER, SIX MONTHS, WHATEVER THE TIME WAS, THAT YOU WOULD NOT BE FINE BECAUSE YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO CORRECT IT. IF YOU DID NOT APPLY DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME, THEN YOU GET WOULD BE A STIFF FINE WITH THE IDEA OF ELIMINATING THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY, UH, ILLEGAL. SO WE KNOW THEY EXIST. OKAY? NOW, IN THIS LAW AS, UH, AS THANK YOU IN THE LAW, AS YOU SCHWARZ POINTED OUT, THERE'S SO MUCH WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE THAT SOMEONE COULD, YOU MAKE IT VERY CONVENIENT BECAUSE FOR SOMEONE TO BUILD A A DU WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS. BECAUSE IF YOU ARE ON A 7.5 LOT BY RIGHT, THANK YOU. WE'RE GONNA SEND YOU TO, WE'RE GONNA SEND YOU, UH, TO, TO PARIS TO, UH, FIND THE JEWELS . OKAY? OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, UM, BUT THERE IS A, A, A PERSON BY RIGHT, IF YOU'RE ON A 7.5, RIGHT, YOU COULD BUILD AN EXTENSION OUT TO YOUR HOUSE, AND IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE, YOU HAVE A ONE CAR GARAGE BUY, RIGHT? YOU COULD BUILD A TWO CAR GARAGE PROVIDING YOU MEET ALL THE SETBACKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. YOU COULD DO THAT. SO HERE, SOMEONE COULD JUST DO THAT [00:55:01] AND THEY HAVE, QUOTE, THEIR FAMILY, OCCUPY THAT SPACE AND WHO WOULD EVER KNOW THE DIFFERENCE? SO THIS LAW PROVIDES WIGGLE ROOM FOR THOSE WITH ILL INTENT, YOU SEE? SO IT, IT'S, IT'S THE WAY'S WRITTEN IS POOR. WE NEED TO GO BACK AND TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS FOR ALL THE REASONS THAT CAROL, UH, ALAN POINTED OUT AND ALL THE REASONS THAT, UH, HUGS HOZ POINTED OUT, AND THE FACT THAT WE MISSED THAT INITIAL POINT OF ELIMINATING ILLEGAL MULTI-FAMILY HOMES IN THE TOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, CAN I JUST ASK THE TOWN ATTEND A QUESTION? YES. UM, IF WE, UH, FOLLOWED, UH, MR. SCHWARTZ AND, UH, UH, MR. SIMON'S, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDATIONS AND, UH, TOOK OUT, UH, THE HARSHER, YOU KNOW, PROVISIONS, WOULD WE HAVE TO THEN RE YOU KNOW, RESCHEDULE A PUBLIC HEARING OR WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT BE SUB SUBSTANTIVE ENOUGH? THAT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIVE, YES. WHY DON'T WE HEAR FROM THE COMMISSIONER, OR UNLESS THERE'S ANYONE ELSE IS THERE? NO, NO, NO OTHER SPEAKERS, UH, HAPPY TO TOUCH ON THAT AS WELL. ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION, THE QUESTION ABOUT WITH THE 7,500, UH, SQUARE FOOT LOT MINIMUM, COULD THAT, DOES THAT EXCLUDE CONVERTING AN EXISTING GARAGE? AND THE WAY THE LOCAL LAW IS DRAFTED IS YES, IT WOULD. WITH THE RATIONALE BEING THAT TO CONVERT A GARAGE, YOU'RE ELIMINATING A PARKING SPACE AND INCREASING THE PROBABILITY THAT YOU HAVE TO INCREASE YOUR DRIVEWAY. THEREFORE, IN THE SPIRIT OF THE DRIVEWAY RESTRICTIONS, WHICH UNDERSTOOD, UM, THERE'S, UH, YOU KNOW, SOME COMMENTS NOT IN FAVOR OF THAT. UM, THAT IS JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. NOW, THIS IS THE SEVENTH PUBLIC HEARING. UM, I DO BELIEVE THAT, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT CAN BE DISCUSSED IN WORK SESSION TWEAKS, MEANING DISCUSS THE CONVERSION TO A GARAGE, MAKE A DECISION WHETHER YOU WANT TO CHANGE OR NOT. UM, TWEAKS TO THE, THE MANNER IN WHICH THE DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT, UM, IS, IS HANDLED IN THE LAW. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE D DISCUSSED IN A WORK SESSION. ANYTHING SUBSTANTIVE LIKE GOING DOWN TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET? THAT CERTAINLY WOULD HAVE TO, UM, I WOULD, I WOULD URGE YOU NOT TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING. I DON'T GET THE SENSE THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD'S LOOKING TO DO. SO I THINK IN ANY ALTERNATIVE, UM, OTHER THAN THAT, THE BOARD WOULD BE IN A POSITION TO CLOSE AND I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IN, UH, WE SCHEDULE A WORK SESSION IN THE NEAR FUTURE TO, UH, DISCUSS SOME OF THESE, UM, OTHER ISSUES AND WORK TOWARDS A FINAL LAW WHICH WE WOULD POST, HAVE, UM, POSTED EIGHT DAYS, DAYS IN ADVANCE OF A, A POTENTIAL DECISION. OKAY. ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT CONVERTING A GARAGE, DO WE TALK ABOUT CONVERTING THE ENTIRE GARAGE TO AN A D OR TALK, TALK ABOUT THE UPPER PORTION AND LEAVE THE, LEAVING THE PARKING UNDERNEATH? ARE THOSE DISTINCT IN, SO THE CONVERSION COULD BE ANY ONE OF THOSE. ULTIMATELY THERE'S A 12 FOOT ACCESSORY HEIGHT RESTRICTION. SO IF SOMEONE WAS, UM, BUILDING NEW, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO BUILD MM-HMM . SAY A GARAGE THAT'S 18 FEET HIGH TO ACCOMMODATE BOTH PARKING AND THEN A DU ABOVE, THAT'S, THAT WOULD NEED A VARIANCE IN ANY SCENARIO. UM, IF THERE'S AN EXISTING GARAGE LIKE THAT WITH SOMETHING ABOVE, UM, PEOPLE DO HAVE LIKE STUDIO, THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE CODE THAT INDICATE, UM, CONVERSION WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE IN THAT RESPECT. MM-HMM . UM, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT I SAID INITIALLY, THAT'S NOT THE INTENT OF THE LOWERING TO R SEVEN FIVE. THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE COULD DISCUSS. OKAY. UM, I MEAN, I, I WOULD PREFER PERSONALLY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, TO NOT CLOSE IT AND BASICALLY TO HAVE ANOTHER DISCUSSION THAT'S, YOU KNOW, MY PERSONAL PER, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WAITED SO LONG ON THIS AND I'D RATHER MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL KNOW WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON AND ARE CONFIDENT THAT WHAT WE'RE DOING IS GONNA HELP THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE. YOU KNOW, I THOUGHT CAROL ALLENS, YOU KNOW, COMMENTS WERE, THERE'S A LOT OF WIDOWS AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY SUFFERING FINANCIALLY. AND THAT'S WHY WE ACTUALLY, THAT'S WHY I WAS SUPPORTIVE OF THE ADUS FROM, FROM THE BEGINNING WAS TO FOCUS ON THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY NEEDED IT. YOU KNOW, RATHER THAN PEOPLE WHO ARE MULTIMILLIONAIRES WHO LIVE IN GIGANTIC, YOU KNOW, HOMES. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO HELP. UH, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, UH, ADJOURN THE HEARING TILL THE FIRST MEETING IN NOVEMBER AND, AND, UH, AND THEN AT THE WORK SESSION, AT OUR FIRST AVAILABLE WORK SESSION, WE HAVE A, A REAL DISCUSSION ON THIS AND, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THE PROS AND CONS. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO OUR [ To consider a site plan application by Thalle Industries Inc. (“Thalle”) as it relates to an existing rock crushing and aggregate reclamation facility located at 50 Warehouse Lane South,( P.O. Elmsford, NY 10523) [TB 25-06] ] SECOND HEARING, [01:00:01] WE HAVE TO MOTION OUR LAST, YEAH, THE MOTION. MOTION I MAKE, UH, MY MOTION IS, OH, THE LAST ONE. OKAY. I'M SORRY. UH, MOTION TO CONSIDER A SITE PLAN APPLICATION BY FAIL INDUSTRIES, UM, AS IT RELATES TO THE EXISTING ROCK CRUSHING AND AGGREGATE RECLAMATION, UH, FACILITY LOCATED AT 50 WAREHOUSE LANE. UM, UH, PO ELMSFORD 1 0 5 2 3. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR. FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD, I'M GARRETT DUANE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION. THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS RELATED TO A SITE PLAN APPLICATION OF FAIL INDUSTRIES, INC. THE SITE OPERATOR RELATED TO A PROJECT INVOLVING MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING ROCK AGGREGATE AND RECLAMATION FACILITY LOCATED IN THE GI GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT AT 50 WAREHOUSE LANE PO ELMSFORD CONSISTING OF APPROXIMATELY 14.3 ACRES PROCEDURALLY VALE RECEIVED, UPDATED AND UPDATED SPECIAL USE PERMIT APPROVAL FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS ON MARCH 13TH, 2025 RELATED TO ITS CURRENT USE THAT ZBA SPECIAL PERMIT CONTAINED 20 CONDITIONS DESIGNED TO ENSURE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE SITE AND SURROUNDINGS. ONE OF THE ZBA CONDITIONS WAS THAT THE APPLICANT APPLY FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL TO THE TOWN BOARD TO ENSURE THAT THE SITE FEATURES THAT ARE EXISTING AND THAT ARE PROPOSED TO BE MODIFIED ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE ZBA SPECIAL PERMIT. THE PROCESS TO DATE HAS LED TO PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS A SECONDARY ENTRANCE TO THE SITE FOR EMERGENCY VEHICLES FENCING AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE OPERATIONS AND INTERNAL CIRCULATION IMPROVEMENTS. IN TERMS OF PROCESS, THE PLANS AND APPLICATIONS WERE REVIEWED BY TOWN STAFF INCLUDING PLANNING, BUILDING ENGINEERING, POLICE FROM THE TRAFFIC AND SAFETY DIVISION, AND THE TOWN'S LEGAL DEPARTMENT. THE SUBMISSIONS WERE REVIEWED BY THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY PLANNING DEPARTMENT, THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD AND ELMSFORD FIRE DISTRICT OFFICIALS. THE APPLICANT APPEARED BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD AS PART OF A SITE PLAN REFERRAL, WHICH INCLUDED WORK SESSIONS ON AUGUST 4TH, 2025 AND SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2025, WHERE THE APPLICATION WAS THE SUBJECT OF A NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PLANNING BOARD. THE PLANNING BOARD NOTES THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO CONTINUE TO WORK WITH AND ADDRESS ALL COMMENTS ISSUED BY THE TOWN PROFESSIONAL STAFF, INCLUDING THOSE FROM THE BUILDING INSPECTOR AND TOWN ENGINEER, AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH AND ADDRESS COMMENTS ISSUED BY THE ELMSFORD FIRE DEPARTMENT AS WELL AS INCORPORATE PLANNING BOARD COMMENTS PERTAINING TO THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE PLAN, INTERNAL CIRCULATION, AND DEMONSTRATE IN ITS PLAN ADHERENCE TO ALL APPLICABLE LOCAL AND REGIONAL STANDARDS. THE PLANNING BOARD DID NOTE THAT IF THE APPLICANT ACCOMPLISHES THOSE COMPLIANCE AND INCORPORATES THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, THAT IT CERTAINLY WOULD'VE BEEN FAVORABLE TOWARDS THE APPLICATION. THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE, MR. DAVID SIMON, IS PRESENT THIS EVENING ALONG WITH OTHER FAILED REPRESENTATIVES AND WE'LL PRESENT THE SITE PLAN AND PROVIDE UPDATES WITH RESPECT TO PROGRESS ON THE COMMENTS RECEIVED TO DATE. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR, FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, DAVID STEINMETZ FROM THE LAW FIRM OF ZIN AND STEINMETZ HERE REPRESENTING FAIL INDUSTRIES. I'M GLAD TO BE BACK, UH, BEFORE YOUR BOARD AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, THE OPPORTUNITY TONIGHT. I'M JOINED BY, UM, GLEN PANA, THE CEO OF FAIL INDUSTRIES. I'M JOINED ALSO BY SEVERAL OTHER OFFICIALS OF FAIL. UH, ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES, OUR PROJECT ENGINEER, UH, PETER LOYOLA SHOULD BE ON SCREEN, UH, FROM CLA ENGINEERING OUR, UH, SAFETY AND OSHA CONSULTANT, IRV GILL FROM CATAMOUNT CONSULTING SHOULD BE ON SCREEN AND AVAILABLE. AND OUR DEC PART 360, UM, EXPERT KEN BRENER, AN INDIVIDUAL WHO WORKED FOR THE NEW YORK STATE DEC FOR 30 YEARS IN MATERIALS MANAGEMENT, WHICH SPECIFICALLY RELATES TO THIS APPLICATION IS ALSO HERE. UM, AND I'M PLEASED TO SAY THAT, UH, GEORGE ANA, THE FOUNDER OF THALE, HAS ARRIVED AND HE IS HERE SOMEWHERE IN THE BACK AND THERE HE IS. UM, GEORGE P ANA IS HERE AS WELL. GEORGE, GOOD TO SEE YOU. WE'RE HERE, MR. SUPERVISOR, MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD, ESSENTIALLY, UM, FOR SORT OF A CONFIRMATORY SITE PLAN APPLICATION. AND I USE THAT PHRASE, CONFIRMATORY SITE PLAN APPLICATION BECAUSE THIS OPERATION HAS BEEN IN YOUR TOWN FUNCTIONING LAWFULLY SAFELY WITHOUT INCIDENT AS A PRODUCTIVE BUSINESS IN YOUR TOWN FOR 27 YEARS. APPARENTLY THEY'VE BEEN DOING IT WITHOUT AN ENTIRELY CLEAR SITE PLAN ON FILE, BUT I WANNA MAKE IT CLEAR FOR THE RECORD AND FOR THE ENTIRE BOARD, THIS IS NOT LIKE SOME NEW BUSINESS HERE IN GREENBURG. GEORGE [01:05:01] STARTED THIS BUSINESS HERE OVER 25 YEARS AGO, RENTING PROPERTY FROM BOB WEINBERG. HE AND BOB CAME IN BEFORE THE TOWN IN THE EARLY, ACTUALLY THIS, IT ACTUALLY STARTED IN 1997 WHEN THEY GOT AN EXCAVATION PERMIT TO BEGIN WORK ON ON THE PROPERTY. I'M GOING TO WALK YOU THROUGH, UM, WHERE WE ARE IN THE APPLICATION AND GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND AND PROCEDURE. GLEN IS GONNA FOLLOW BEHIND ME AND GIVE YOU A BETTER DESCRIPTION OF THE OPERATION. 'CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE SPENT OVER TWO YEARS NOW IN FRONT OF THE TOWN AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOUR BOARD UNDERSTANDS EXACTLY HOW THIS OPERATES AND WHY WE BELIEVE TONIGHT WOULD BE ENTIRELY APPROPRIATE FOR YOU TO GRANT THE SITE PLAN APPROVAL SO THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS MATTER. THIS PROPERTY IS A ROCK AND AGGREGATE RECYCLING OPERATION. THAT MEANS ROCK AND OTHER MATERIALS LIKE CONCRETE COME INTO THIS PROPERTY ON A TRUCK. IT GETS DUMPED ONTO THE PROCESSING PLATFORM. IT GETS SORTED, SOME OF IT GETS PROCESSED AND OTHER MATERIALS ARE MADE FROM THAT MATERIAL THAT CAME IN. SMALLER ROCKS, DIFFERENT SIZE, ROCKS, SAND, GRAVEL, RECYCLED CONCRETE. THAT MATERIAL GETS PICKED UP, GETS PUT BACK ON A TRUCK, AND THEN IT GOES OUT INTO THE STREAM OF COMMERCE AND IT GETS REUSED. WHAT FAIL IS DOING ON THIS PROPERTY IS THE ABSOLUTE ESSENTIAL EXISTENCE OF RECYCLING. THIS IS IT. THIS IS CONSTRUCTION RECYCLING AT ITS FINEST. IT'S ALSO NOT A FLY-BY-NIGHT OPERATION. IT'S AN EXTREMELY HIGHLY REGULATED BUSINESS. PERMITS AND LICENSES IN EFFECT. THERE'S A DEC, NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION PART 360 REGISTRATION. THERE'S A DEC APPROVED STORM WATER POLLUTION PREVENTION PLAN. THERE'S A WESTCHESTER COUNTY AIR PERMIT AND WESTCHESTER COUNTY PETROLEUM STORAGE PERMITS. THERE'S A WESTCHESTER COUNTY SOLID WASTE COMMISSION LICENSE. THERE ARE OSHA OCCUPATIONAL SAFETY AND HEALTH ADMINISTRATION INSPECTIONS. HE'S GOT ONE OF THE TOP SAFETY RECORDS. HE'S GOT WHAT'S CALLED A 0.59 WORKERS' COMP MOD, WHICH IF YOU INVESTIGATE, AS I THINK YOUR CONSULTANTS HAVE DONE, INDICATES THAT THE SAFETY HISTORY OVER 25 YEARS ON THIS PROPERTY IS UNPARALLELED. THERE HAVE BEEN NO NOISE VIOLATIONS IN 26 YEARS. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF WORK THAT THIS INVOLVES, WHEN THE WHITE PLAINS MALL AND NOT THE WESTCHESTER MALL, THE WHITE PLAINS MALL WITH THE OLD, NOT SO ATTRACTIVE DMV AND DOWNTOWN WHITE PLAINS, WHEN THAT WAS DEMOLISHED TO PROVIDE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR QUITE SOME TIME, THE CONCRETE MATERIAL FROM THAT WAS BROUGHT TO FAIL. IT WAS DUMPED, IT WAS SORTED, IT WAS PROCESSED, AND THAT CONCRETE WAS THEN TRUCKED INSIDE YOUR TOWN TO REGENERON SO THAT IT COULD BE REUSED AND RECYCLED INSIDE YOUR TOWN. WHEN ROUTE NINE A NORTH AND ADJACENT TO SAM'S CLUB WAS BEING REBUILT HERE IN YOUR TOWN, THEY WENT OUT THERE AND THEY GROUND UP THE ROAD. THOSE MILLINGS WERE BROUGHT TO FAIL, FAIL STORED THEM, SEPARATED THEM, PUT THEM ON A TRUCK, AND THEN WENT UP TO AN ASPHALT PLANT TO BE TURNED INTO NEW ASPHALT. IT CAME BACK INTO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THEN IT WAS PUT DOWN ON NINE A. THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF RECYCLING. THE SITE HAS BEEN INSPECTED, REINSPECTED AND RE PERMITTED BY NO LESS THAN THREE DIFFERENT BUILDING INSPECTORS OVER A QUARTER CENTURY IN THIS TOWN. THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A STOP WORK ORDER ISSUED DURING THAT PERIOD OF TIME. HAS GARRETT INDICATED. WE RECENTLY, AFTER ALMOST TWO YEARS, OBTAINED A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FROM THE ZONING BOARD OF APPEALS. IT INCLUDED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF ATTENTION THAT THE TOWN AND ITS CONSULTANTS DECIDED THE TOWN NEEDED. I WANNA MAKE SURE YOU KNOW THAT THE TOWN HIRED SURVEYORS, MONITORS AND OUTSIDE ENGINEERS AT A COST THAT MR. ANA AND FAIL HAD TO REIMBURSE THE TOWN. 300 OVER $300,000. OVER $300,000 JUST FOR THE TOWN'S SIDE OF THE ANALYSIS. THAT SPECIAL PERMIT, UH, REQUIRED THAT DESPITE THE FACT THAT THIS FACILITY HAS BEEN OPERATING FROM GEORGE AND BOB WEINBERG TO GLEN PANA FOR 25 YEARS, WE NEEDED TO COME TO YOUR, BEFORE YOUR BOARD FIRST TIME IN 20 SOME ODD YEARS. ANYBODY SAID WE HAD TO COME BEFORE YOUR BOARD AND GET A SITE PLAN APPROVAL. WE'RE HERE. WE GOT NO, IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, THAT'S WHAT GLEN DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO DO. BUT WE NEED TO GET IT DONE. AFTER TWO AND A HALF YEARS, THREE MAJOR SITE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, SITE PLAN IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE AND SUBMITTED TO THE TOWN MOST RECENTLY, WE DON'T BELIEVE, MY CLIENT DOESN'T BELIEVE HIS [01:10:01] PROFESSIONAL CONSULTANTS DON'T BELIEVE THE EXPERT EXPERTS DON'T BELIEVE THEY WERE NECESSARY. WE SPENT A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WITH THE TOWN, WITH ITS CONSULTANTS, WITH THE PLANNING BOARD, TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY THEY WEREN'T NECESSARY. NONETHELESS, FAIL HAS DECIDED AND DEMONSTRATED THIS ON ITS SITE PLAN TO GIVE YOU A LOOP ROAD, FULL LOOP ROAD. GLEN WILL SHOW YOU THAT TO GIVE YOU A TIRE WASH AND A SCALE. THOSE WERE THINGS THAT WERE IN THE CONDITIONS OF THE, OF THE ZBA SPECIAL PERMIT THEY HAVE NOW ALL BEEN INCORPORATED. WHAT WE NEED YOU TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, THIS HAS SORT OF BEEN A MOVING TARGET FOR OUR TEAM. THE TOWN, NOT YOU, BUT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG HAS CHANGED ITS POSITION THROUGHOUT TWO AND A HALF YEARS ON THE HOURS OF OPERATION, THE ACCEPTANCE OF MIXED LOADS, THE ACCEPTANCE OF ASPHALT AT THIS FACILITY, THE HEIGHTS OF THE PILES THAT THEY COULD KEEP AT THIS, AT THIS FACILITY, WHETHER WE NEEDED TRUCK WASH OR TIRE WASH, AND WHETHER WE NEEDED SCALES, MR. SUPERVISOR MEMBERS, THE BOARD. I MEAN, NO DISRESPECT AT ALL TO THE TOWN'S PROFESSIONAL STAFF. I THINK YOU ALL KNOW I HAVE A MULTITUDE OF MATTERS BEFORE THIS TOWN. I HAVE TO WORK WITH THEM AND WORK WITH THEM ON A LOT OF OF THINGS. BUT THIS ONE HAS BEEN TRULY DIFFERENT AND UNIQUE AND IT'S SELF-EVIDENT TO ME. AND I THINK EVEN TO SOME OF THEM, IT'S BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY SPECIALIZED, DIFFERENT KIND OF OPERATION. THEY SIMPLY DO NOT, AND DID NOT HAVE THE EXPERTISE TO PROVIDE THE ADVICE THAT THEY WERE GIVEN AND GIVEN FROM TIME TO TIME, IT TOOK US OVER A YEAR TO CONVINCE THEM TO GO BRING IN AN OUTSIDE ENGINEERING CONSULTANT TO PROVIDE ADVICE TO THE ZONING BOARD THAT BROKE THE LOG JAM AND GOT US AT LEAST TO THE POINT OF SPECIAL, UH, SPECIAL PERMIT. SO THE ZBA GOT PS AND S INVOLVED. I WANT TO GO BACK JUST TO GIVE YOU THE HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE AS TO A, SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION AND WHY WE NEED THE SITE PLAN. TAKEN CARE OF FAIL WAS OPERATING IN THE LATE NINETIES WITH GEORGE PANA, WITH THAT TOWN EXCAVATION PERMIT IN 2001. 24 YEARS AGO, ALMOST 25 YEARS AGO, MR. WEINBERG APPLIED FOR A SPECIAL USE PERMIT BEFORE THE TOWN, WHICH THE TOWN ISSUED ON APRIL 18TH, 2002, FOR A QUOTE, ROCK CRUSHING AND AGGREGATE RECLAMATION FACILITY TO PERMIT ROCK CRUSHING AND STORAGE OF ROCK AND CONCRETE. NOTHING HAS CHANGED. IT'S THE SAME OPERATION. ONCE THAT PERMIT WAS, WAS SECURED, THEY'LL IMMEDIATELY APPLY TO THE NEW YORK STATE DEC AS THEY WERE REQUIRED TO. THEY WENT TO THE STATE GOVERNMENT AND GOT A REGISTRATION FOR THIS FACILITY PROCESSING FACILITY RECEIVING ONLY RECOGNIZING UNCONTAMINATED CONCRETE, ASPHALT PAVEMENT, BRICK, SOIL, OR ROCK, MR. SUPERVISOR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN 25 YEARS, THE OPERATION GREW. INDEED, THE OPERATION MODERNIZED. INDEED, THEY RETAINED AND PURCHASED AND ACQUIRED NEW EQUIPMENT. INDEED, THEY ACTUALLY BECAME A CRITICAL INDUSTRY. DURING COVID FAIL WAS DESIGNATED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AS A CRITICAL INDUSTRY BECAUSE WHILE WE WERE ALL IN OUR HOMES, THINGS STILL NEEDED TO HAPPEN OUT IN SOCIETY, AND THEIR BUSINESS NEEDED TO STAY OPEN. PRIOR TO 2023, NO ONE EVER SOUGHT TO CLOSE DOWN OR ISSUE STOP WORK ORDERS CON ED CERTIFIED FAIL AS ONE OF THE ONLY PLACES IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY WHERE THEY WOULD BRING THEIR MATERIAL WHEN THEY EXCAVATE OUR ROADS TO GET TO OUR GAS AND ELECTRIC PIPES AND LINES AND WHERE THEY WOULD COME TO BUY MATERIAL. IT'S A PRETTY BIG DEAL FOR CON ED TO SAY, YEAH, I'LL USE YOUR MATERIAL. FRANKLY, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BUSINESSES IN YOUR TOWN HAS BEEN PUT THROUGH HELL, FOLKS. THEY HAVE REIMBURSED THE TOWN, AS I SAID, OVER $300,000 TO PUT THEM THROUGH HELL DURING THIS PROCESS. AND THE ONLY THING THAT MY CLIENT CAN CONCEIVE OF THAT HAS CHANGED WAS A FEW NEW TOWN STAFF DECIDED THAT THEY WERE BAD GUYS DOING SOMETHING WRONG, DOING SOMETHING BAD. EVERYONE KNEW IN 2001 THAT THIS SITE WOULD TAKE IN ROAD AND CONSTRUCTION MATERIALS. YET I HAD TO STAND IN FRONT OF YOUR ZONING BOARD FOR OVER A YEAR TRYING TO EXPLAIN WHY ASPHALT CAN COME INTO THIS PLACE. WHY YOU AS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND HASTINGS AND IRVINGTON AND DOBBS FERRY AND MOUNT PLEASANT WOULD TRUCK THEIR ASPHALT FROM PROJECTS INTO THIS FACILITY. THE FACT THAT I HAD TO ARGUE WITH YOUR MUNICIPAL OFFICIALS, WITH YOUR CONSULTANTS, WITH YOUR BOARD ABOUT ASPHALT, TO ME AS A LAND USE PRACTITIONER WHO HAS BEEN IN FRONT OF THIS TOWN FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS, MYSTIFIES ME. THE DEC DEFINES COMMERCIAL AGGREGATE AS SAND GRAVEL, CRUSHED STONE, OR SIMILAR ENGINEERED OR RECYCLED MATERIAL USED AS A MARKET CO, AS [01:15:01] A MARKET COMMODITY, CONCRETE MANUFACTURING, ASPHALT MANUFACTURING, PRODUCTION OF CONCRETE PRODUCTS. EVERYTHING WEINBERG AND GEORGE ANA TOLD YOU 25 YEARS AGO WAS GONNA HAPPEN ON THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN HAPPENING. IT'S ONLY GOTTEN BETTER. IT'S ONLY GOTTEN MORE IMPORTANT. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THEY'RE NOT REALLY HERE FOR THE ADU , MR. SUPERVISOR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD. I WISH THAT GEORGE AND GLENN HAD CALLED ME 15 YEARS AGO, HAD THEY CALLED ME 15 YEARS AGO, AND I'VE KNOWN GEORGE FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I WOULD'VE SAID, GEORGE, CONGRATULATIONS. YOU GOT SOME OPERATION. IT'S DOING REALLY WELL HERE IN THE TOWN IN GREENBURG. IT'S GROWING. IT'S THRIVING. IT'S IMPORTANT, IT'S BECOMING CRITICAL. HOPEFULLY I WOULD'VE BEEN SMART ENOUGH TO SAY, GEORGE GLENN, GUYS, WE GOTTA TAKE WEINBERG'S PERMIT FROM 2001. WE GOTTA DUST IT OFF AND WE GOTTA COME BACK IN AND AND JUST UPDATE IT. JUST UPDATE IT. THAT WOULD'VE BEEN A GREAT THING TO DO. I WISH THEY HAD DONE THAT. I WOULDN'T BE HERE RIGHT NOW. I WISH YOUR TOWN 15 YEARS AGO HAD TOLD THEM TO DO THAT, BUT YOU DIDN'T. WHY? 'CAUSE THEY WERE RUNNING A GOOD OPERATION. THEY HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE EMPLOYED IN THIS COUNTY. THEY DO. THEY PROVIDE FOR EMPLOYMENT IN THIS COUNTY. THEY PROVIDE AN ESSENTIAL SERVICE IN THIS COUNTY. THEY SHOULD BE THANKED. YOU'RE GONNA HEAR SOME FOLKS HERE TONIGHT WHO I THINK ARE GONNA TELL YOU THEY ARE VERY WELL APPRECIATED. OUT IN THE MARKETPLACE, OUT IN SOCIETY, OUT IN THE WORLD WHERE WE, WHERE WE ALL WANNA SAY WE'RE INTO SUSTAINABILITY AND ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND RECYCLING. BUT WHERE YOU HAVE THE ESSENTIAL RECYCLING FACILITY IN YOUR TOWN, THEY HAVE TO SPEND $300,000. HIRE LAWYERS, ENGINEERS PAY FOR YOUR ENGINEERS, PAY FOR YOUR MONITORS, PAY FOR YOU GUYS TO FLY DRONES OVER THEIR PROPERTY. THERE'S A FRUSTRATION. I KNOW THE TOWN OF GREENBURG MUST KNOW BETTER. I AM HERE TO EMPLOY, EMPLOY YOU. WE NEED TO GET A SITE PLAN APPROVED. WE DON'T NEED TO PUT, YOU DON'T NEED TO PUT YOUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, YOUR CRITICAL LOCAL BUSINESSES THROUGH THIS. I CANNOT IMAGINE THAT'S TRULY WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO. ZONING. THIS SITE IS IN THE TOWN'S GENERAL INDUSTRIAL ZONING DISTRICT. IT'S SURROUNDED BY A JUNKYARD, A METALS RECYCLING FACILITY, A SOLID WASTE TRANSFER STATION, A DOG POUND, A ROCK CLIFF, ENORMOUS WAREHOUSES, AND THE SAWMILL PARKWAY. IT IS NOWHERE NEAR RESIDENTIAL USES. THIS SATISFIES THE CRITERIA FOR SPECIAL USE PERMITS. YOU NOW HAVE A SITE PLAN IN FRONT OF YOU THAT'S APPROVABLE, THAT DOCUMENTS WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE PROPERTY THAT SHOWS THESE THREE CRITICAL THINGS THAT I'M TOLD WE DIDN'T NEED TO SHOW. LUKE ROAD TIRE WASH. PAUL FRANCIS ISN'T HERE. GINA ELLEN, JOY. THESE ARE NOT BAD GUYS. THIS IS NOT A BAD OPERATION. THIS IS NOT, WE SHOULDN'T ALL BE HERE TONIGHT GOING THROUGH THIS. I SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO DO THIS WITH GLEN, WHO'S BEEN PATIENT, ALBEIT FRUSTRATED FOR OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS TOGETHER. FOLKS, WE NEED TO COMPLETE THIS PROCESS. I APPRECIATE ALL THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT COMMISSIONER DUQUESNE HAS PUT IN. HE HAS BEEN SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN A VOICE OF CERTAINLY COOPERATION AND REASON, AS HAS MR. DANKO. BUT IT'S NOW TIME FOR YOU FOLKS ON THE TOWN BOARD TO HELP US PUT THIS TO AN END. WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO ASK THAT YOU GRANT SITE PLAN APPROVAL, AND I'M GONNA LET GLEN WALK YOU THROUGH SOME EXPLANATIONS AND A QUICK LITTLE VIDEO OF HIS OPERATION SO THAT YOU ARE COMFORTABLE PUTTING THIS THING TO AN END. THANK YOU. AM I SHARING? I AM NOT SHARING. I'M NOT SHARING. LET'S SHARE. SHARE. OKAY. GOOD EVENING, SUPERVISOR. FINER, COUNCILMAN HABER, COUNCILMAN HENDRICKS, COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON. UM, UH, MR. DANKO, UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT AS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF THEO INDUSTRIES. JUST WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT WE DO AT THIS FACILITY. AS I SAID, WE HAVE BEEN HERE FOR 27 YEARS. WE ARE THE LARGEST RECYCLER IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY. LEMME SEE IF I CAN GET THIS GOING. OKAY. SO THIS IS A LITTLE ABOUT US. WE'RE A TRUSTED, ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE SUPPLIER OF BOTH RECYCLED AND VIRGIN AGGREGATES IN THE HUDSON VALLEY. WE'RE FAMILY OWNED, LOCALLY BASED, ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS. WE CELEBRATED OUR 40TH YEAR OF SERVICE THIS YEAR TO THE WESTCHESTER IN THE HUDSON VALLEY. AND WE WERE NAMED IN 2025. THE NUMBER ONE PLACE TO WORK IN WESTCHESTER BY 9 1 4 INC. [01:20:01] MAGAZINE. WE'RE A GREEN COMPANY WITH DEEP, DEEP LOCAL ROOTS. WE TREAT OUR EMPLOYEES REALLY WELL. SAFETY, I WAS TOLD VERY OFTEN FROM TOWN STAFF. THEY WANTED TO ENSURE A SAFE OPERATION. AND I, SAFETY IS OUR TOP PRIORITY. WE ARE PROUD TO SAY WE HAVE A WORKMAN'S COMP OUT OF 0.59. JUST TO EXPLAIN WHAT THAT MEANS. WE ARE IN A SAFETY GROUP. WE BUY OUR, OUR INSURANCE IN A SAFETY GROUP OF 40 COMPANIES. WE HAVE THE BEST SAFETY RECORD OF EVERY COMPANY IN THAT 40 COMPANIES SINCE 2013. WE'VE, WE'VE CONSISTENTLY, OUR STRONG SAFETY RECORD HAS CONSTANTLY, UM, DISTINGUISHED US, UM, AS A LEADER IN SAFETY. WE HAVE HAD ZERO FIRST RESPONDER CALLS OR EMERGENCY INCIDENTS IN ALL 25 YEARS OF OPERATION. WHEN WE MET WITH THE FIRE DEPARTMENT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO OUT THERE, ONE OF THE CHIEFS SAID, I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'RE HERE. I'VE BEEN ON THIS FORCE FOR 25 YEARS. I DIDN'T KNOW YOU EXIST. WE'VE HAD NO COMPLAINTS TO SAFETY, OPERATIONS, ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, NOISE. WE HAVE COMPREHENSIVE SAFETY PROTOCOLS AND TRAINING FOR ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES. WE DO MOCK SSHA INSPECTIONS UNANNOUNCED AT EVERY SITE WE HAVE MONTHLY. UM, WE CONTINUALLY INVEST IN OUR PEOPLE AND THE EQUIPMENT IN THE ENVIRONMENT. WE ARE A CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE FACILITY AS DESIGNATED BY BOTH THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATE OF NEW YORK. AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DEFINES CRITICAL INFRASTRUCTURE AS FACILITIES CONSIDERED SO VITAL TO THE UNITED STATES THAT THEIR INCAPACITATION OR DESTRUCTION WOULD HAVE A DEBILITATING EFFECT ON SECURITY, NATIONAL ECONOMIC SECURITY, NATIONAL PUBLIC HEALTH OR SAFETY, OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF. AND UNDER EXECUTIVE ORDER 2 0 2, WE WERE DE DESIGNATED AN ESSENTIAL INDUSTRY DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC. AND WE OPERATED THROUGHOUT THE PANDEMIC, ACCEPTING MATERIALS FROM EVERY TA FROM TOWN OF GREENBURG AND EVERY VILLAGE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND THE HUDSON VALLEY. WHAT WE RECYCLE, WE RE WE HAVE A THREE PART, 360 PERMITS THAT WE RECYCLE NON CONTAMINATED EXCAVATED MATERIALS, NON CONTAMINATED. WE DO NOT ACCEPT HAZARDOUS MATERIAL. WE DON'T ACCEPT MATERIALS WITH FUEL IN IT. WE ARE VERY STRICT ABOUT THIS, RIGHT? AS I SAY, I, WE'RE LIKE HEBREW NATIONAL. WE ANSWER TO A HIGHER AUTHORITY BECAUSE WE TAKE MATERIAL IN, WE THEN MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAN. WE RECYCLE IT AND SELL IT INTO THE INDUSTRY. WE SUPPLY MATERIAL TO THE RESERVOIRS. WE SUPPLY THE DEP MATERIAL AROUND THE RESERVOIRS. I CANNOT TAKE CONTAMINATED MATERIALS INTO OUR SITE IF I'M GONNA SELL MATERIAL TO THE DEP. LIKE I SAID, WE ARE NOT PER PERMITTED TO CON TAKE IN PETROLEUM CONTAMINATED ASPHALT AS OF THE STOP WORK ORDER. WE WERE IN YOUR BOARD MEETING. WE BOARDROOM UP THERE AS A SHOW OF GOOD FAITH. YOUR TOWN STAFF WAS CONCERNED ABOUT US TAKING ASPHALT TO THE SITE. I SAID, YOU DON'T WANT US TO TAKE IT? I WON'T TAKE IT. JOE DANKO. WE WROTE A HANDWRITTEN NOTE THAT DAY. WE WROTE A TWO PAGE HANDWRITTEN NOTE. I FIGURED WE'D BE HERE FOR A COUPLE MONTHS. I SIGNED IT. I SAID, FINE. WE WON'T TAKE ASPHALT. SO ASPHALT PRODUCTS THAT WERE TRADITIONALLY BROUGHT TO OUR PLANT THAT WE THEN TOOK UP TO OUR ASPHALT PLANT TO PUT BACK INTO THE PAVEMENT. AS DAVID TALKED ABOUT THE ASPHALT ON ROUTE NINE, WE COULDN'T ACCEPT ANYMORE. ONE OF THE FIRST TRUCKS THAT CAME TO DROP, DROP ASPHALT OUT WAS A TOWN OF GREENBURG TRUCK. AFTER YOU TOLD US NOT TO COME HERE ANYMORE. ELMS FOR RECYCLING FACILITY IS APPROPRIATE, LOCATED WITHIN AN INDUSTRIAL ZONE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. DAVID WENT INTO THE COMPATIBLE USES. I DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. WE'RE SET BACK FROM THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. WE'VE HAD NO RECORDED COMPLAINTS IN MORE THAN 25 YEARS OF OPERATION. THIS IS THE FACILITY, JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, YOU SEE OUR QUARRY THERE. PAUSE CROSSED ANIMAL RESCUES. OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS. I DON'T KNOW IF, UH, JENNIFER'S HERE. THEY'RE THE BEST NEIGHBORS IN THE WORLD. WE WORK REALLY WELL WITH THEM. WE'VE GOT BROOKFIELD NEXT TO US, THE WAREHOUSES. THE NEAREST HOUSE IS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ROUTE NINE. ROUTE NINE A. SO WE ARE, WE ARE LOCATED WHERE WE BELONG. OUR NEIGHBORS PAUSED, CROSSED, RIGHT? WE WORK VERY CLOSE WITH THEM. JENNIFER, UM, SAID THEY'VE HONORED US AND AS SHE STATED, WE ARE BEYOND GRATEFUL THAT FOR THE ENTIRE TEAM AT THE INDUSTRY SINCE DAY ONE, THEY HAVE BEEN THE MOST AMAZING SUPPORTIVE NEIGHBORS HELPING US IN SO MANY WAYS. DONATING ROCKS TO OUR PLAY YARDS, SNOWPLOWING OUR PROPERTY DURING EVERY STORM, AND USING THEIR EQUIPMENT TO MOVE THOUSANDS OF POUNDS OF DONATED FOOD FOR OUR MAGNIFICENT PETS. I COULD GO ON AND ON. THEY ARE SUCH AN INSPIRING GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND WE ARE SO FORTUNATE TO HAVE THEM AS AN ENGAGED MEMBERS OF OUR VERY SPECIAL PAW CROSS ANIMAL RESCUE FAMILY. THIS IS WHAT COMMUNITY LOOKS LIKE. AND WE'VE, SINCE THEN, WE BOUGHT A CONCRETE PLANT. SINCE WE'VE BEEN THERE, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A TRUCK THAT IS A PAUSE COST TRUCK ENCOURAGING PEOPLE TO ADOPT A RESCUE PET. [01:25:02] WE ARE THE LARGEST RECYCLER OF EXCAVATED MATERIAL IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY. WE RECYCLE TWO OUT OF EVERY THREE TONS OF EXCAVATED MATERIAL IN WESTCHESTER. WE RECYCLE MORE THAN TWICE AS MUCH AS ALL FOUR OF OUR COMPETITORS COMBINED. WE REDUCE LANDFILL WASTE. WE PREVENT ILLEGAL DUMPING COMMUNITY PARTNERSHIPS. WE'RE PAUSE CROSS. WE'RE PART WESTCHESTER PARKS FOUNDATION, THE LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS FRESH AIR FUND. WE'RE MEMBERS OF THE BUSINESS COUNCIL OF WESTCHESTER CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY COUNCIL, SENA HUDSON, HUDSON HIGHLANDS LAND TRUST. WE'RE UNION EMPLOYEES. WE WORK WITH THE TEAMSTERS ALL DAY. WE WORK WITH THE ENGINEERS ALL DAY. AND OPERATIONALLY, YOU SEE WE'RE THERE 6:00 AM TO 3:30 PM WE WENT THROUGH A WHOLE THING WITH THE TOWN ABOUT OPERATING HOURS. AGAIN, NO COMPLAINTS. IN 25 YEARS, THEY WANTED US TO NOT OPEN TILL, I THINK IT WAS NINE O'CLOCK AT FIRST. I TOLD 'EM TRUCKS IN CONSTRUCTION WORK EARLY SO THE TRUCKS WOULD COME TO THE SITE. THEY'D WAIT ON THE ROAD UNTIL WE WERE ALLOWED TO COME IN THE SITE. AND THEN THEY FINALLY CAME IN. CON ED, WERE AN APPROVED FEAR FACILITY FOR CON. UM, WE'RE AN INTEGRAL PARTNER IN MAKING SURE THAT THIS REGION, YOU KNOW, CAN MAINTAIN ITS INFRASTRUCTURE. WE HAVE 13 EMPLOYEES, FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES THAT ARE THERE. WE, WE ARE RECYCLE THE CONED STUFF. WE HAVE A LOT OF MUNICIPAL AND PRIVATE CONTRACTORS ACROSS WESTCHESTER WHO DON'T HAVE OTHER PLACES TO BRING THE MATERIALS. THERE'S MORE THAN A HUNDRED TRUCKS A DAY GOING IN AND OUT OF WORK AT FAIL INDUSTRIES. AND WE HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS MANNER COLLABORATIVELY WITH THE TOWN TO GET A NEW SPECIAL USE PERMIT. AND I WILL SAY JOE DANKO HAS BEEN GREAT. GARRETT HAS BEEN GREAT. THOSE GUYS ARE FANTASTIC. WE'RE COMMITTED. I'M COMMITTED TO WORKING ALY WITH THE TOWN AND TO WORK TRANSPARENTLY TO GET THIS THING DONE. WE UPHOLD THE HIGHEST ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS. UM, WE PREVENT ILLEGAL DUMPING AND PROJECT DELAYS. WE'VE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO UPDATE THE PERMIT FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS. AS I SAID, WE VOLUNTARY PAW PAUSE, TAKING AN ASPHALT. THERE'S NO PLACE FOR ASPHALT TO GO. THERE'S NO, WE RECYCLE IT. WE PUT IT BACK INTO THE STREETS WHERE IT IS. WE'RE THE ONLY FACILITY THAT DOES THAT. LOCAL MUNICIPALITIES AS WELL AS CONTRACTORS DO NOT HAVE A LOCAL PLACE TO DISPOSE ASPHALT. AND THEY'RE FINDING WAYS TO GET RID OF IT ANY WAY THEY CAN. SO THIS IS A QUICK THING OF THE IMPACT OF THE SHUT GROUND AND WHAT WE DO. SO THIS IS HOW WE RECYCLE MATERIAL AT FAIL INDUSTRIES, RIGHT? WE TAKE MATERIAL IN, WE TAKE IN A HUNDRED TRUCKS A DAY LIKE THIS. THEY COME IN, THEY HAVE THEIR EXCAVATED MATERIAL, THEY DUMP IT ON THE GROUND, THE TRUCKS COME. WE SORT IT. THIS IS A CONED MIXED LOAD. WE TAKE CONCRETE, WE PUT CONCRETE IN THE CONCRETE PILE. WE PUT ROCK IN THE ROCK PILE. WE KEEP EVERYTHING SEGREGATED SO THAT WE CAN THEN TAKE THAT MATERIAL, PROCESS IT, AND WE THEN LOAD IT BACK OUT INTO THE TRUCK. IT'S A PHENOMENAL FACILITY. IF THIS MATERIAL DOESN'T COME TO US, IT HAS NO PLACE TO GO. SO WE ARE A REALLY BIG, INTEGRAL PART OF THE ECONOMY HERE. WE KEEP THE PLACE CLEAN, WE'RE ENVIRONMENTALLY CONSCIOUS, AND WE ARE NOT HERE. THOSE TRUCKS HAVE TO GO ACROSS THE TAPSE BRIDGE TO GET NEW MATERIAL. WHEN PEOPLE DON'T HAVE PLACES TO GO, THEY TAKE MATERIAL ANYWHERE THEY CAN. FOR EXAMPLE, THIS, THIS IS ACTUALLY A TOWN OF GREENBURG TRUCK. TOWN OF GREENBURG USED TO BRING ASPHALT TO US. TOWN OF GREENBURG HAD NO PLACE TO TAKE THEIR ASPHALT. SO WHAT ARE THEY DOING? THEY DUG A HOLE BEHIND PAWS CROSSED IN THE STUMP DUMP, AND THEY'RE DUMPING ASPHALT IN THE HOLE. THEY WON'T LET US. OKAY, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS, UH, JOE, THIS IS FRUSTRATING TO ME BECAUSE I CAN ACCEPT THIS STUFF. I'LL PUT IT BACK INTO THE ROAD IT CAME FROM. AND INSTEAD, YOUR, YOUR ENGINEERS, YOUR BUILDING INSPECTORS ARE TELLING US YOU CAN'T DO IT. IT'S UNSAFE FOR THE SITE, AND THEY'RE DIGGING A HOLE RIGHT BEHIND US. THIS TRUCK DROVE RIGHT PAST US. I HAD TO WATCH YOUR WHEN WAS THAT? WHEN WAS THAT? IT'S BEEN FOR THE LAST YEAR. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT'S A GREEN? I I HAVE MORE VIDEOS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT SAY ON THE SIDE OF I HAVE, I HAVE THE, I CAN SHOW YOU MORE VIDEOS. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THEM. I WILL SHOW YOU THE MORE VIDEOS WITH THE TRUCKS. I HAVE THE TRUCK NUMBERS ON 'EM. I'VE GOT TRUCKS. IT'S GREENBERG TRUCKS. I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT. THANK YOU. I'M, I WILL HAPPILY GIVE IT TO YOU. RIGHT? I DON'T LIKE DOING THIS. RIGHT. I DIDN'T EVER WANT TO GET TO THIS POINT. ALL I WANT TO DO IS GIVE US OUR PERMIT, LET US OPERATE. RIGHT? WE'RE GREAT EMPLOYERS. WE TREAT OUR EMPLOYEES WELL. WE WERE THE NUMBER ONE BEST PLACE TO WORK IN 2025. THERE'S A LOT OF COMPANIES IN WESTCHESTER. NUMBER ONE. IT'S SOMETHING I TAKE PRIDE IN. I'VE GOT MY EMPLOYEES HERE. I'VE GOT ALL THESE GUYS THAT WORK WITH US HERE TO SUPPORT US BECAUSE [01:30:01] WE DO THE RIGHT THING. WE ARE NOT BAD GUYS. WE'VE BEEN TREATED LIKE WE'RE THUGS. WE'RE NOT ONE OF THOSE GUYS. I WOULD REALLY IMPLORE YOU. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GRANT US OUR PERMIT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER? DO YOU HAVE ANOTHER SPEAKER WITH YOU TONIGHT? OH, I, I'M SORRY. I WILL SHOW YOU THE SITE PLAN. . SORRY. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. SMALL THING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. A SMALL PART. NOW IT'S PROBABLY DISCONNECTED. LET'S GO. I APOLOGIZE. UH, OKAY, SO WE ARE CONNECTED HERE. OKAY. OKAY. THIS IS AN OVERHEAD VIEW OF WHERE WE'RE LOCATED. YOU SAW THE OTHER PICTURE HERE. OUR SITE IS THE SITE IN RED. WE, THE YELLOW LINE REPRESENTS THE LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. THE BLUE LINE WHERE WE ARE REPRESENTS THE GENERAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT. SO IT'S THE HEAVIEST DISTRICT, HEAVIEST ZONING DISTRICT IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. AND LIKE I SAID, WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR 27 YEARS. UM, THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE SITE PLANT. OH, THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE SITE PLAN. UM, WE ARE LEASING THE THREE OR AND A HALF TO FOUR ACRES OF THE SITE HERE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE DONE SINCE THE LAST, UM, REVIEW, WE'VE, AS I SAID, WE'VE OPERATED FOR 25 YEARS. THE GRAY AREA THAT YOU CAN SEE IS THE ROAD. THE, THE DIAGONAL GRAY AREA. ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE PLAN IS THE ROAD WHERE TRUCKS COME IN, TRUCKS QUEUE THERE, THEY GET LOADED. WE HAVE THE TOWN, UH, BUILDING INSPECTOR INSISTED ON US HAVING A LOOP ROAD. WE WENT THROUGH AGAIN, WHY WE DIDN'T BELIEVE IT WAS NECESSARY, BECAUSE IN THE LEFT SIDE OF THE PLAN IS JUST ROCK. THERE'S NOTHING THAT CAN BURN THERE. BUT THEY WANT A LOOP ROAD. WE GAVE 'EM A LOOP ROAD. SO YOU HAVE A LOOP ROAD IN HERE, UH, THAT WE BELIEVE TAKES CARE OF ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PLAN. JUST SO YOU UNDERSTAND, AS THEY GO IN, THE TRUCKS COME IN ON THE RIGHT, YOU'LL SEE THAT PURPLE. LEMME SEE IF I CAN ZOOM IN A LITTLE BOTTOM RIGHT. OH YEAH, THERE WE GO. JUST SO, OKAY, SO THE TRUCKS COME IN ON THE RIGHT SIDE. THAT PURPLE, UH, PILE, PILE A IS WHERE THE INCOMING MATERIAL IS DUMPED. WHEN THE WESTCHESTER MALL WAS JUST, WAS TAKEN DOWN, WE TOOK THE ENTIRE MALL IN TWO WEEKS. SO WE STOCKPILE WE GO AT TIMES. WE STOCKPILE A LOT OF MATERIAL THERE. UM, THOSE SORT OF TAN STRA, UH, STRAIGHT LINE FIGURES WITH THE TWO LINES COMING OFF IT. THAT'S WHERE OUR CRUSHERS ARE. THAT'S WHERE WE CRUSH THE MATERIAL. THE RED FIGURES BEHIND IT ARE STORAGE SHEDS. UM, THE AREA B IS WHERE WE ACCEPT CON ED MATERIAL. SO CON ED IS THE ONE GROUP THAT WE TAKE. WE TAKE MIXED LOADS FROM THEM. THEY EXCAVATE STUFF FROM THE STREET. WE TAKE IT IN THE GREEN AREA IN THE MIDDLE SITE B, WE ROCESS IT AND SEND IT BACK OUT. AND THEN THE YELLOW STOCKPILE SITE C, WHICH YOU'LL SEE A NUMBER AROUND, THERE ARE OUR FINISHED PRODUCT. THAT'S WHERE THE FINISHED PRODUCT COMES IN. WE STORE IT, WE LOAD THE TRUCKS. IT GOES OUT THE, UM, IN THE BLUE AREA AS WE COME IN THERE, THAT IS WHERE THERE IS A TRUCK WASH TIRE, EXCUSE ME, TIRE WASH FACILITY. AND, UM, AND A SCALE. SO WE HAVE ALWAYS LOADED OUT OF A BUCKET SCALE. BUCKET. SCALE WORKS. WE LIFT IT UP. WE KNOW HOW MUCH IS IN THE, THE MATERIAL, HOW MUCH MATERIAL'S IN THE BUCKET. WE KNOW THE WEIGHT OF THE TRUCKS. WE HAVE NEVER LOADED TRUCKS OVERWEIGHT. IT IS, AGAIN, WE ANSWER TO A HIGHER AUTHORITY. IF A TRUCK GETS INTO AN ACCIDENT OUT THERE AND WE O WE OVERLOADED 'EM, WE ARE LIABLE. THESE TRUCKERS HERE ARE LIABLE. THEY DON'T WANNA BE LOADED OVERWEIGHT. SO WE, WE NEVER LOAD TRUCKS OVERWEIGHT. BUT BUILDING INSPECTOR WANTED A TRUCK SCALE. WE PUT A TRUCK SCALE IN. UM, I BELIEVE WE'VE SATISFIED ALL YOUR CONDITIONS. WHEN THEY FIRST CAME AND TOLD US WE NEEDED PERMITS, WE WENT OUT AND SUBMITTED THE PERMITS IN JULY OF 2013, WE GOT 'EM HANDED BACK BECAUSE WE'RE TOLD WE NEED A PERMIT PROCESS, WE NEED A SITE PLAN. I WOULD PLEASE ENCOURAGE YOU TO PLEASE VOTE ON A SITE [01:35:01] PLAN SO WE CAN GIVE YOU YOUR MONEY AND YOU CAN GIVE US WHATEVER PERMITS WE NEED. UM, LAST IS, OH, AND I HAVE ONE MORE PICTURE OF HERE. THIS IS THE TRUCK SCALE ON THE BOTTOM LEFT AND A TIRE WASH ON THE RIGHT. GIVE US OUR TRUCK SCALE, GET US OUR SITE PLAN. WE'LL GIVE YOU THE PER, WE'LL GIVE YOU THE MODEL OF THIS STUFF HERE AND MOVE ON AND BE DONE. WE GET PERMITS. THAT'S WHAT WE DO. WE DON'T SHY AWAY FROM PERMITS. YOU WANT US TO GET 20 PER, WE GET 20 PERMITS. BUT PLEASE GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THE PERMIT. DON'T JUST COME HERE AND KEEP TRYING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR US. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS YOU GUYS HAVE ABOUT THE SITE PLAN? I JUST WANTED TO ASK, UM, I KNOW YOU ARE AN ENVIRONMENT, UH, RECYCLING, YOU KNOW, COMPANY. DO YOU HAVE, UH, THE SUPPORT OF SOME OF ANY ENVIRONMENTAL, YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL ORGANIZATIONS IN THE COUNTY? YEP. WE, UM, YOU'LL HEAR FROM SOME OF OUR SPEAKERS. I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS. JULIE, TY, UH, WILL SPEAK. I'M ON THE BOARD OF THE WESTCHESTER PARKS FOUNDATION. JOE STOUT IS HERE. HE WILL SPEAK. UM, WE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE ENVIRONMENTALISTS. AS I TOLD SCENIC HUDSON, I'M VERY CLOSE WITH THE SCENIC HUDSON GUYS. I TOLD NED SULLIVAN, I SAID, NED, I'M AN OUTDOORSMAN. I'M AN ENVIRONMENTALIST. I ALSO HAPPEN TO BE A QUARRY AND RECYCLING OWNER. SO I KNOW THE ENVIRONMENTAL COMMUNITY VERY, VERY WELL. AND THEY HAVE ALL, THEY'RE ALL BIG SUPPORTERS OF OURS. I HAVE A QUESTION. SO HOW DO YOU CHECK FOR THE CONTAMINATION? SO WHEN THE TRUCKS CAME IN, AND IN THE BEGINNING IT WAS HARD. WHEN YOU'RE THE NEW GUY IN THE TOWN, PEOPLE TRY AND SNEAK STUFF IN ALL THE TIME. THEY PUT SOME CONTAMINATED STUFF ON THE BOTTOM AND WE DUMP IT OUT AND WE'D INSPECT IT, AND THEN WE'D TAKE IT AND WE'D LOAD IT BACK IN THE TRUCK. AND PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WE DO NOT DO IT. SO THE DEC HAS A REGULATION. LARGEST THING YOU CAN TELL IS CONTAMINATION IS SMELL. BUT AGAIN, FOR US, MOST RECYCLING FACILITIES, THEY MAKE ALL THEIR MONEY ON THE TIPPING FEES. AND THEN THEY JUST TRY TO GET RID OF THE MATERIAL. WE'RE QUARRY OWNERS. I'M TAKING IN A RAW MATERIAL AND I KNOW THAT RAW MATERIAL'S GONNA BE REPURPOSED AND USED EITHER ON A DOT PROJECT OR A DEP PROJECT OR A WESTCHESTER AIRPORT. I CAN'T SEND OUT CONTAMINATED MATERIAL. I LOSE MY LICENSE. RIGHT? DEC, WHEN WE HAD AN ISSUE THERE AND YOUR TOWN ENGINEER WAS WORRIED ABOUT STORM WATER, I SAID, CALL THE DEC. WE HAVE A DEC PERMIT THAT, THAT, THAT IS USED FOR FACILITIES THAT OPERATE IN PERPETUITY. I SAID, CALL 'EM, THEY'RE ON TARRYTOWN ROAD RIGHT DOWN THERE. I CALLED THEM TOWN STAFF DIDN'T WANNA BRING 'EM IN. SO AS I SAY, WE ANSWERED TO A HIGHER AUTHORITY. PEOPLE DO NOT BRING STUFF INTO US. AND I GOT, WE WERE ACCUSED OF, UH, AMERICAN PETROLEUM WAS TAKING OUT TANKS. THEY'RE ONE OF OUR BIG CUSTOMERS. THEY SAID THEY'RE BRINGING PETROLEUM CONTAMINATED, UM, SOIL TO YOU. THE CEO OF AMERICAN PETROLEUM CAME IN AND STATED, COME TO THEIR SITES. THERE'S A DEC INSPECTOR AT THEIR SITES. THEY TELL YOU, THIS STUFF CAN GO TO FAIL. THIS STUFF'S CONTAMINATED. IT GOES TO PENNSYLVANIA. IT'S HIGHLY RIGHT. WE ARE HIGHLY, HIGHLY REGULAT FOR 27 YEARS. YOU GUYS DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WE WERE HERE AND YOU NEVER, WE NEVER HAD AN INCIDENT. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. NO, IT'S, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. SO HOW DO YOU TEST FOR THE CONTAMINATION? SO WE TEST, TEST, IT COMES OUT TEST, AND THE, THE LARGEST THING IS VISUAL IMPACT AND SMELL. BUT ALL OF OUR STUFF IS ACCORDING TO DEC REGULATIONS, R 360. I'M JUST A, JUST A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, CONFUSED. UM, BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, NONE OF US HAVE REALLY BEEN FOLLOWING, YOU KNOW, THAT CLOSELY. WHAT IF THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR SO MANY YEARS? THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY COMPLAINTS, YOU KNOW, FROM ANY, FROM ANYBODY. THEY'VE, THEY'VE DONE ENVIRONMENTAL WORK AND RECYCLING. SO THEY, IF THE TOWNS USE THEM, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE REASON WHY, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN HELD UP FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR TWO YEARS. BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WONDERING IF THERE'S ANY PUBLIC PUBLIC REASON, A RATIONALE WHY, YOU KNOW, WHY YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO HAVE. WELL, I, I'D LIKE TO ANSWER THAT ON, ON THE TOWN'S BEHALF. THIS FIRST CAME TO LIGHT WITH A STOP WORK ORDER APPROXIMATELY TWO YEARS AGO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO AT THIS POINT, UM, WHERE THA WAS NOTIFIED THAT THEY WERE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE SPECIAL PERMIT OF 2001 30 DAYS PASSED TOWN STAFF DID NOT SEE A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO CORRECT THOSE ISSUES AND THEREFORE STOP WORK ORDER WAS PUT IN PLACE. UM, IT WAS APPEALED. WE, WE WORKED THROUGH THAT ISSUE, BUT AT THE TIME, THE SITE HAD [01:40:01] EXPANDED GREATLY. AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE FEEL THE NEED FOR A SITE PLAN. UM, FIRST WE WENT THROUGH THE SPECIAL PERMIT PROCESS AT THE ZBA. THAT DID TAKE QUITE A LONG TIME. I BELIEVE WE WERE, UH, JUST HAVING DISCUSSIONS IN GOOD FAITH THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. AND I WILL SAY ON BEHALF OF TOWN STAFF, UH, SOME OF WHICH ARE NOT HERE TONIGHT. THIS HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THE IDEA OF FAIL BEING BAD GUYS. AND I PUT THAT IN QUOTES FOR THE RECORD OR ANY PERSONAL FEELINGS TOWARDS THE COMPANY ITSELF. IT WAS ABOUT STAYING IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TOWN CODE AND, UM, ENSURING THAT THE PROPER REGULATIONS WERE IN PLACE. BUT FROM THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS, IN YOUR OPINION, FROM A PUBLIC INTEREST, YOU KNOW, STANDPOINT, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, WHY THE TOWN SHOULD SAY YOU CAN'T OPERATE IF THEY'VE HAD NO, YEAH, THAT'S, THE TOWN IS NOT SAYING THAT. NO. RIGHT. SO, SO RIGHT NOW THAT'S, HE WAS EXPLAINING WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION BE THAT WE BASICALLY, WELL, WHY DON'T, CAN YOU PLEASE LET, LET TO FINISH. I'M JUST ASKING A QUESTION. HE HAS TO FINISH THIS. THIS ISN'T A YES OR NO VOTE SPECIFICALLY TO A SITE PLAN. THIS IS A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT THE FINAL SITE PLAN SHOULD LOOK LIKE. UM, I DO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT DAY YOU SUBMITTED THIS FINAL SUBMISSION A FEW DAYS AGO, I WOULD ASSUME ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO, A WEEK AGO, 10 DAYS AGO. OKAY. SO I KNOW, UM, A MEMBER, THE THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SUBMITTED SOME COMMENTS EARLIER TODAY. I'M NOT SURE IF THAT WAS DISTRIBUTED OUT TO FAIL OR NOT. UH, I'M NOT SURE IF THE TOWN BOARD HAD THOROUGH TIME TO REVIEW THAT OR NOT. DEFINITELY NOT. BUT I, I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO REVIEW ALL THE COMMENTS, REVIEW THE PLANNING BOARD NEGATIVE RECOMMENDATION, UM, TO ENSURE THAT WHEN YOU DO HAVE A FINAL VOTE, YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION IN FRONT OF YOU. AND AGAIN, IT'S NOT A UP DOWN VOTE. NO, WE'RE, WE'RE SHUTTING THE FACILITY DOWN. IT'S ABOUT COMING TO REGULATIONS THAT THE TOWN BOARD AGREES WITH AND FEELS COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH. SO IN OTHER WORDS, YOU'RE SAYING THIS IS A PROCESS THAT WE'RE IN, THAT WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF THAT YES. FOR THE SITE PLAN ABSENT, YES. AND I WILL SAY THAT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DID RECOMMEND ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO TO SUBMIT A SITE PLAN APPLICATION. SO I WOULDN'T SAY THE DELAYS SOLELY ON BEHALF OF THE TOWN. WE JUST TO RESPOND. I DON'T WANNA INTERRUPT YOU, JOE. I'M DONE. THANK YOU. SO JUST TO RE JUST TO ANSWER THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, OR YOU SHOULD KNOW, WE COULDN'T SUBMIT A SITE PLAN APPLICATION UNTIL WE COMPLETED THE ZONING BOARD PROCESS. 'CAUSE THE ZONING BOARD PROCESS ARTICULATED AS THE COMMISSIONER INDICATED 20 DIFFERENT CONDITIONS. SO UNTIL WE HAD THOSE CONDITIONS, WE COULDN'T FILE A SITE PLAN. SO I, I REALLY TAKE UMBR, I, AGAIN, JOE'S BEEN WONDERFUL TO WORK WITH, BUT THAT LAST COMMENT I TAKE UMBRIDGE WITH, I WOULD'VE STARTED A SITE PLAN, APPLICATION PROCESS IN FRONT OF YOUR BOARD AS SOON AS I POSSIBLY COULD. AND I DID. WE GOT OUR, WE GOT OUR SPECIAL PERMIT ISSUED IN MARCH. WE TRIED TO GET BACK IN FRONT OF THE ZONING BOARD TO RAISE SOME ISSUES. AND I DON'T WANT TO GET BOGGED DOWN IN MINUTIAE, BUT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS THAT WE HAD WITH THE WAY THE SPECIAL PERMIT CONDITIONS WERE ARTICULATED. WE ASKED TO GET BACK IN FRONT OF THE ZONING BOARD IN APRIL. THAT DID NOT HAPPEN. THEY WOULD NOT PUT US BACK IN FRONT OF THEM, AND THEREFORE WE ENDED UP FILING OUR SITE PLAN APPLICATION. ANSWERING YOUR QUESTION, MR. SUPERVISOR, A LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM JOE'S ANSWER. WHY DID THIS ALL HAPPEN? I TOLD YOU IN MY COMMENTS WHY IT HAPPENED, BECAUSE THIS PRO THIS, THIS FACILITY EVOLVED OVER 25 YEARS. IT GREW, THERE'S NO QUESTION THE AMOUNT OF MATERIAL THERE GREW, THE SIZE OF SOME OF THE PILES WERE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT BOB WEINBERG HAD PUT IN A 2001 PERMIT. I SAID TO YOU, I WISH I HAD TAKEN THEM IN HERE FOR A, A, A SITE PLAN AND A, UH, IN PARTICULAR SPECIAL PERMIT AMENDMENT. THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. NONETHELESS, THERE REALLY WASN'T A, IN OUR OPINION, A LEGITIMATE JUSTIFICATION IN JULY OF 23 TO SHUT THIS PLACE DOWN. THANKFULLY, WE WERE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE AND GET IT REOPENED. IT IS REOPENED RIGHT NOW. BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, AND I THINK YOU'D HEAR IT FROM VIRTUALLY EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM, IT'S NOT FUNCTIONING THE WAY IT SHOULD BE FUNCTIONING. IT'S NOT OPERATING AT FULL CAPACITY. AND IT'S CERTAINLY NOT ACCEPTING THE ASPHALT THAT WE WANNA MAKE SURE IS HANDLED SAFELY. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE PROCESSED AT THIS LOCATION, BUT NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO BE RECEIVED SO THAT IT COULD BE SENT TO AN ASPHALT PLANT TO CONTINUE THE RECYCLING AND PUT BACK IN, INTO THE ROADS. SO I HOPE MR. SUPERVISOR, THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION. AND IN TERMS OF UP OR DOWN, ULTIMATELY THE SITE PLAN IS AN UP OR DOWN VOTE. YOU CAN VOTE YES, YOU COULD VOTE NO. YOU COULD VOTE YES WITH CONDITIONS. WE'RE HERE. THE REASON WE GAVE YOU ALL THIS TONIGHT, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, MAYBE THANKFULLY FOR YOU, YOU HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. BUT WE HAVE, AND WE ARE DESPERATELY ASKING, AND I THINK OUR EMPLOYEES AND OUR CUSTOMERS ARE ASKING THAT YOU HELP US GET TO THE END OF THIS PROCESS. AFTER OVER $300,000 OF PAYING YOUR CONSULTANTS AND ALL OF THE TIME AND THE EFFORT, WE'RE SIMPLY [01:45:01] ASKING TO GET TO THE END OF THIS. THAT'S ALL YOU. WE, WE DISAGREED OVER THREE MAJOR ISSUES. LOOP ROAD TIRE WASH SCALES. WE DISAGREED. I, I HAVE EXPERTS WHO TELL YOU PART 360 DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT THE NEW YORK STATE BUILDING CODE DOESN'T REQUIRE THAT. WE ARGUED ABOUT IT AND WE ARGUED ABOUT IT. WE FINALLY, GLENN SAID, ENOUGH ALREADY. I NEED MY SITE PLAN APPROVAL. I NEED TO PUT EVERYBODY BACK TO WORK. WE'RE HERE WITH THAT SITE PLAN. SO HE'S RIGHT. YOU JUST GOT IT A WEEK AGO. HE JUST AUTHORIZED OUR TEAM A WEEK AGO TO FINALLY CAPITULATE ON THOSE THREE ISSUES. WE'RE ASKING TO GET TO THE END OF THE PROCESS. SO WE HAVE NOTHING MORE AFFIRMATIVELY FOR US TO PRESENT. I KNOW THERE ARE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE HERE AND HAVE SPENT HOURS WAITING TO SPEAK. SO I DON'T WANT TO GET IN THEIR WAY IF THEY WISH TO SPEAK, AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED UP, I WOULD SAY LET THEM SPEAK. AND I JUST WANNA ASK, IF YOU COULD JUST SEND US THE, THE VIDEO OF THE, LIKE YOU SAID YOU THOUGHT WAS THE TOWN TRUCK, UH, DIGGING THE HOLE BECAUSE I, I JUST REALLY WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT AND CAN, CAN, NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS. WE'LL PROVIDE, CAN YOU, YEAH, CAN YOU SEND THAT PICTURE? I'M THE LIAISON TO DELIVER DPWI WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IT APPEARS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS NOT OUR TRUCK, BUT I WOULD, I'M, I'M NOT GONNA GO BACK AND DO IT BACK AND FORTH. DOESN'T, IF YOU CAN JUST, IF YOU CAN JUST SEND A PICTURE SO WE CAN JUST CONFIRM THAT PLEASE. THAT WE WILL SUPPLY, WE WILL SUPPLY YOU WITH THAT INFORMATION. AND, AND GINA WORRIES WHETHER IT'S THE TOWN'S TRUCK OR SOMEONE ELSE'S TRUCK. IT'S THE LAST THING WE ALL NEED FOR SOMEBODY TO BE DIGGING HOLES. AND ACTUALLY, BUT YOU DID SAY IT WAS A TOWN, TRUCK. TRUCK BECAUSE IT IS. BECAUSE IT IS. BUT YOU SAID IT WAS SO THAT THAT'S IT IS IT'S FAIR TO JUST TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTOOD. WE GET IT, YOU KNOW. OKAY. GOT IT. SO REALLY, WHERE ARE WE IN THE PROCESS? WE HAVE TO HEAR FROM THE PUBLIC. THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S WHY. THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT. OKAY. BEFORE, BEFORE WE DO THAT, JUST, JUST A NOTE FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD BE, UM, DERELICT IN OUR DUTY IF WE DIDN'T READ CAREFULLY WHAT'S BEEN PREPARED IN TERMS OF INPUT FROM OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR WHATEVER. AND, AND WE CAN'T MAKE ANY DECISION TONIGHT. SO JUST, YOU'RE GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA SAY WHATEVER YOU'RE GONNA SAY, BUT KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO POSSIBLY, UH, MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DIGEST THIS AND RESPOND. NO, I UNDERSTAND THAT. AND I, I WILL TELL YOU IT'S A COMPLICATED ISSUE. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO LOOK AT THE PSNS REPORT BECAUSE THEY, THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL. IT COST US A LOT OF MONEY. AND AGAIN, I DON'T MIND THE YOURSELF, THE 300 WAS JUST FOR YOUR PEOPLE. SO YOU CAN IMAGINE WHAT IT'S COST US. WE'VE BEEN HERE FOR A LONG TIME. WE COULD ALSO SCHEDULE A WORK SESSION AND HAVE A, YOU KNOW, MORE LENGTHY GIVE AND TAKE IF YOU WANT. WOULD APPRECIATE THAT. IF THAT'S NEEDED. WE ASK FOR ONE. YEAH, WE SHOULD PROBABLY HAVE A STENOGRAPHER TO COMPLETE THE RECORD. YES, WE SHOULD. THAT'S FINE. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? CAN I TAKE THE SITE PLANS DOWN OR DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR US? MR. SHEEHAN, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I KNOW YOU WERE ON THE SITE WHEN WE DID THE FIRST WALKTHROUGH AND I WAS LISTENING TO THIS, UH, THIS PUBLIC HEARING WHILE I WAS ON MY WAY HERE FROM THE, WHERE I WAS. UH, DOES THIS SITE PLAN SHOW WHERE THE RELOCATED PILES ARE? SO THE PILE, I WILL ZOOM IN. WE PLEASE HAVE QUIET IN THE AUDIENCE. THANK YOU. OKAY. AS YOU COME IN TO THE SITE FROM THE ROAD ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT, LET'S SEE IF I CAN MOVE THIS UP A LITTLE BIT FOR YOU. IS THAT GOOD? THERE WE GO. OH, SLIDE OVER A LITTLE BIT. SO THE TRUCKS ENTER AT THE BOTTOM RIGHT WHERE THAT, THE, THE Y IS THEY COME DOWN WAREHOUSE LANE. THEY ENTER THE FACILITY FROM THAT RIGHT PILE A IS THE INCOMING MATERIAL. SO THAT IS MATERIAL THAT'S BEEN EXCAVATED. IT'S TECHNICALLY CLASSIFIED AS A WASTE. IT GETS DUMPED IN THAT PILE. WE SEGREGATE THE CONCRETE ON ONE SIDE, THE ROCK ON THE OTHER SIDE, PILE B, THE GREEN PILE IN THE MIDDLE IS MIXED LOADS THAT COME FROM CON ED. TYPICALLY THAT IS MATERIAL THAT IS MIXED TOGETHER. IT'S GOT ASPHALT CONCRETE ROCK IN IT. WE TEND, WE SEGREGATE THE CON ED MATERIAL. WE MAKE MATERIAL THAT GOES BACK IN THE STREET FROM THAT PILE PILES, SEE ALL THE YELLOW PILES THAT YOU SEE AROUND THE SITE ARE FINISHED PRODUCT PILES. WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF FINISHED PRODUCT PILES BECAUSE THEY CHANGE, THEY MOVE ALL THE TIME. WE DON'T CONTROL THE INCOMING MATERIAL. IF PEOPLE BRING US CONCRETE, WE MAKE CONCRETE PRODUCTS. IF PEOPLE BRING US STONE, WE MAKE STONE PRODUCTS. SO THE, THE YELLOW PILES ARE THE FINISHED PRODUCT PILES. THE RED. I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE C SECTION ON HERE? THAT'S IN BLACK AND THE C SECTION IN HERE THAT'S IN WHITE. THE C SEC, IT'S JUST SO THAT YOU COULD SEE 'EM. IT'S JUST ALL C IS C IT'S ALL TYPES OF FINISHED PRODUCTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN PROCESSED. [01:50:01] IT WAS JUST, WE COULDN'T SEE IT. IF YOU MADE THE SO THEY'RE NOT LOCATIONS, THEY'RE ACTUALLY WHAT'S BEING PROCESSED? YEAH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE END PRODUCT. UM, WHEN THE MATERIAL COMES OUT AND GETS DUMPED ON THE GROUND, THAT'S THE RAW MATERIAL. IT GOES INTO EITHER PILE A OR PILE B. AND WHEN THE PRODUCT IS FINISHED, IT GOES INTO THE PILE CS. SO WHEN DOES THE TESTING HAPPEN? I'M STILL TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. SO WHEN DO YOU SMELL, YOU SMELL WHEN WE DO THAT. WHEN THE PILE GETS, WHEN IT GETS DROPPED INITIALLY. SO WHEN IT GOES INTO PILE A OR WHEN IT GOES INTO PILE B. AND THAT IS WHERE THE MATERIAL IS INSPECTED AND TESTED AND MADE SURE VISUAL AND SMELL TEST TO MAKE SURE THE MATERIAL IS NOT CONTAMINATED. OKAY. I'M SORRY. SURE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? HAPPY IF YOU'VE GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SITE. HAPPY TO SHOW YOU. WE SHOULD HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE. WE'LL BE HERE, BUT WE THANK YOU PLEASE. ALRIGHT, SO OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE JOSEPH STOUT. JUST LIKE THINGS FIVE MINUTES PER PERSON. WE HAVE A CLOCK ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROOM. PLEASE REMAIN WITHIN THOSE FIVE MINUTES SINCE WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND IF ANYONE FORGOT TO SIGN UP, PLEASE JUST COME UP AND SIGN UP. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AS WELL. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR. FINER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD FOR THE RECORD. MY NAME IS JOE STOUT. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WESTCHESTER PARKS FOUNDATION. I'M ALSO THE FORMER COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS RECREATION AND CONSERVATION. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS, TO ADDRESS YOU THIS EVENING. THE WESTCHESTER PARKS FOUNDATION HAS BEEN AROUND FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS. UH, WE ADVOCATE FOR, WE, UH, ENHANCE THE MORE THAN 50 PARKS WITHIN THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY PARKS SYSTEM. I'M HERE TONIGHT IN SUPPORT OF DALE INDUSTRIES APPLICATION TO RESUME FULL OPERATIONS AT ITS ELMSFORD RECYCLING FACILITIES. ONE OF OUR COUNTY'S MOST POPULAR PARKS, THE NORTH COUNTY TRAILWAY RUNS DIRECTLY ASIDE. THE VIRTUAL QUARRY. TRAILS LIKE THIS ARE THE MOST USED, MOST LOVED, I'M SURE THE SUPERVISOR HAS RID THIS BIKE ON IT A THOUSAND TIMES, UH, AND MOST REQUESTED FACILITIES IN THE, IN THE PARK SYSTEM BY FAR. UH, SINCE THIS SECTION OF THE TRAIL IS OPEN, THERE'S NOT BEEN A SINGLE COMPLAINT RELATED TO THAS OPERATIONS. PARTS OF THE NORTH COUNTY TRAIL HAVE BEEN IN NEW SINCE THE EIGHTIES, THE 1980S. THAT'S NEARLY FOUR DECADES OF PEACEFUL COEXISTENCE WITH BUSINESSES ALONG THIS TRAIL ARE NUMEROUS INDUSTRIAL USES. THERE'S A UPS DEPOT, COCA-COLA DISTRIBUTION CENTER, AUTO SHOPS, RECYCLING YARDS. IN FACT, IN MILLWOOD, JUST NORTH ON THE SAME TRAILWAY, THERE'S A LANDSCAPE MATERIALS, AN EXCAVATING AND EXCAVATING AND LANDSCAPE MATERIALS BUSINESS THAT IS EX THAT IS ADJACENT TO THIS, TO THE SAME EXACT TRAILWAY. THIS REFLECTS THE CORRIDOR'S ORIGINS AS A WORKING RAILROAD LINE JUST ACROSS YOUR BORDER ON VIRGINIA ROAD RIGHT NEXT TO OR RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM A HISTORIC PARK AS A CEMENT PLANT. I RAISE THESE EXAMPLES BECAUSE THESE ARE ESSENTIAL SERVICES TO OUR COMMUNITY THAT MUST COEXIST WITH OUR PARKS. AND WHAT MATTERS MOST TO US IS THE PARKS FOUNDATION IS ARE THEY GOOD NEIGHBORS? SO I CAN TELL YOU WITHOUT HESITATION THAT DE INDUSTRIES HAS BEEN AN EXCEPTIONAL NEIGHBOR. THEY'VE MADE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS TO OUR PARKS, INCLUDING INSTALLING A BENCH ALONG THE TRAILWAY, DEDICATED BY THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE IN RECOGNITION OF THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. THEY FUNDED ENVIRONMENTAL INITIATIVES SUCH AS EQUIPMENT FOR OUR VOLUNTEER GRAFFITI REMOVAL SQUAD, WHO DOES WORK IN PARKS, WESTCHESTER COUNTY PARKS LOCATED IN GREENBURG. AND THEY REGULARLY SEND THEIR EMPLOYEES WHO ARE GREAT PEOPLE TO VOLUNTEER AND PARK CLEANUPS. THE GENERA GENEROSITY EXTENDS EVEN BEYOND THEIR IMMEDIATE AREA. THEY HELP PURCHASE A VAN AND FURNISH A CABIN AT OUR CAMP MORTY SLEEPAWAY CAMP. IT'S A CAMPER, UNDERPRIVILEGED KIDS IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY. SOME OF 'EM RIGHT HERE FROM RIGHT HERE IN IN GREENBURG. THEY INDUSTRIES IS A MODEL CORPORATE CITIZEN RESPONSIBLE, ENGAGED, DEEPLY INVESTED IN THE WELLBEING OF OUR COMMUNITY AND OUR ENVIRONMENT. SO IN ADDITION TO MY ROLE WITH THE PARKS FOUNDATION, I AM ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE HARRISON PLANNING BOARD AND AM A FORMER TOWN COUNCILMAN IN THE TOWN OF HARRISON. SO I UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS THAT YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND WHAT YOU'RE REQUIRED TO DO IN YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, UH, UH, MAKE IN IN YOUR DECISION MAKING PROCESS. I'VE SAT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE WITH, WITH, WITH CROWDS LIKE THIS, UH, BOTH IN PLANNING AND ON THE TOWN BOARD. AND HERE'S SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE IMPORTANT. YOU'VE HEARD SOME OF THIS BEFORE, BUT I THINK THESE PERSPECTIVES AND, AND, UH, ATTORNEY STEINMAN AND I HAVE FREQUENT SPARRING MATCHES FROM YOUR SIDE OF THE TABLE AND HIS SIDE OF THE TABLE. BUT HERE'S THE THINGS I THINK YOU NEED TO, TO, TO LOOK AT. YOU KNOW, ENVIRONMENTAL LEADERSHIP IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF WHAT, UH, THIS, THIS THIS COMPANY DOES. AND IT ALIGNS DIRECTLY WITH WESTCHESTER COUNTY'S ENVIRONMENTAL AND SUSTAINABILITY GOALS. RECYCLING INNOVATION. YOU HEARD THE NUMBERS FROM, FROM GLEN EARLIER, IN MORE THAN 25 YEARS, NOT A SINGLE FIRST RESPONDER OR EMERGENCY CALL AT THIS SITE. A STRONG COMMUNITY [01:55:01] RECORD, NO COMPLAINTS FROM USERS. IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM. DELL INDUSTRIES DEMONSTRATES THAT INDUSTRY AND ENVIRONMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY CAN COEXIST SUCCESSFULLY. IN FACT, STRENGTHEN ONE ANOTHER. I RESPECTFULLY URGE YOUR BOARD TO APPROVE THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION WHENEVER YOU GET TO THAT POINT IN TIME. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK AND GOOD LUCK. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MATT PEPE. I'M SORRY. NO, I'M JUST GONNA GO SIT IN THE CAR UNTIL I CAN SEE. THANK YOU SUPERVISOR FINER AND MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TONIGHT. MY NAME IS MATTHEW PEPPY. I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY COUNCIL OF WESTCHESTER AND HUDSON VALLEY. UH, WE REPRESENT ABOUT 300 CONTRACTORS, SUPPLIERS, AND, UH, INDUSTRY PARTNERS. WE, UH, BUILD AND MAINTAIN, UH, THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT KEEPS THIS REGION RUNNING. ROADS, BRIDGES, UTILITIES, PUBLIC FACILITIES, AND THE LIKE. I'VE PERSONALLY BEEN WITH, UH, THE CIC FOR 25 YEARS. I'VE SEEN A LOT OF COMPANIES COME AND GO. UH, ONE OF THE FEW CONSTANTS, UH, OVER THE, THOSE COUPLE DECADES HAS BEEN FAIL. UH, THEY'RE AMONG THE MOST DEPENDABLE AND RESPECTED COMPANIES IN OUR INDUSTRY. THEY'VE ALWAYS SET THE STANDARD FOR HOW TO OPERATE RESPONSIBLY, SAFELY, PROFESSIONALLY, AND COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. I THINK, UH, YOU SAW A LOT OF THAT ALREADY. UH, THE RECYCLING FACILITY IN ELMSFORD PLAYS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT ROLE IN WHAT WE DO AS AN INDUSTRY. UH, EVERY PROJECT, LIKE I SAID, WHETHER IT'S A BRIDGE REPAIR, ROAD RESURFACING, UH, UPGRADES TO UTILITIES, THEY ALL CREATE MATERIALS. THESE MATERIALS NEED TO BE HANDLED PROPERLY. FAIL PROVIDES A, UH, LOCAL AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND OUTLET WHERE ROCK, CONCRETE, ASPHALT, THEY CAN ALL BE RECYCLED AND TURNED BACK INTO USABLE AGGREGATE. UH, THIS IS NOT REALLY, THIS IS NOT ABOUT CONVENIENCE. UH, THE WORD ESSENTIAL WAS USED BEFORE REALLY IS ESSENTIAL. WITHOUT THIS, THIS FACILITY CONTRACTORS, THEY HAVE TO HAUL MATERIALS MILES OUT OF THE COUNTY. IT ADDS TRAFFIC, FUEL COSTS, UNNECESSARY EMISSIONS. THOSE OPERATION KEEPS ALL THAT LOCAL AND MAKES SOME CONSTRUCTION HERE IN WESTCHESTER MORE SUSTAINABLE, EFFICIENT, AND AFFORDABLE. UH, WE HEARD ABOUT ROUTE NINE A, WE HEARD ABOUT THE WESTCHESTER MALL. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT RESPONSIBLE RECYCLING LOOKS LIKE. IT'S A A CLOSED LOOP THAT BENEFITS TAXPAYERS, CONTRACTORS, AND THE ENVIRONMENT ALL AT THE SAME TIME. JUST AS IMPORTANTLY, UH, THEY'VE DONE IT THE RIGHT WAY FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS, THE ELMSFORD SITE HAS OPERATED SAFELY AND QUIETLY WITHOUT COMPLAINTS OR INCIDENTS. THEY BUILT STRONG RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. WE'VE HEARD, UH, AND WE WILL HEAR ABOUT, UH, FROM THEM THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE NIGHT. THIS IS THE KIND OF COMPANY THAT WE WANT OPERATING IN OUR COMMUNITY. ONE THAT INVESTS IN SAFETY, SUSTAINABILITY, AND PEOPLE ON BEHALF OF THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. I ASKED THE TOWN TO CONSIDER HOW VITAL THIS FACILITY IS TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY. UH, APPROVING THE SITE PLAN MEANS KEEPING GOOD JOBS HERE, MAINTAINING RESPONSIBLE OUTLETS FOR RECYCLING AND SUPPORTING THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ALL OF US RELY ON EVERY DAY. VALE INDUSTRIES HAS EARNED THE TRUST OF THIS REGION OVER MULTIPLE DECADES. THEY'VE PROVEN THEY CAN DO THIS WORK SAFELY, SUSTAINABLY, AND WE HOPE THEY'LL BE ALLOWED TO KEEP DOING EXACTLY THAT IN THEIR FULL CAPABILITY. THANK YOU. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE JESSE LOZADO. HI, HOW YOU DOING? MY NAME IS, UH, JESSE LOZADA SPEAKING. THE MIC. YEP. MY NAME IS, UH, PICK UP TO, IF YOU LIKE, YOU CAN PICK IT UP. THAT'S WHAT I'M ABOUT TO DO. YOU KINDA JUST GRABBED THE WHOLE THING, THE BOTTOM PIECE TOO. IT'S KIND OF NEW TO ME TALKING AT THE MICS. YOU CAN GO LIKE THIS. GOOD. YOU STARTS WEIRD THOUGH, . IT'S NOT WEIRD. IT'S FINE. MY NAME IS, UH, JESSE LOZA. I'M THE FACILITY MANAGER FOR THE ELMSFORD LOCATION. UH, I'VE BEEN THERE NINE AND A HALF YEARS. UH, WHEN I FIRST STARTED WORKING FOR HALE, I STARTED, UH, PICKING UP GARBAGE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT ALONGSIDE THE ROAD. AND, UM, AS TIME WENT ON, YOU KNOW, UM, I DEVELOPED INTO WHERE I'M AT NOW, WHICH IS, UH, MANAGING THE FACILITY THAT I STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE, YOU KNOW. BUT, UM, THIS FACILITY HERE HAS TAUGHT ME A LOT, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH ALL THE CUSTOMERS, YOU KNOW, AND, UH, ALL THE JOB SITES AND THINGS LIKE THAT THAT WE HAVE AROUND, YOU KNOW, DEALING WITH CUSTOMERS EVEN FROM LIKE, HOMEOWNERS FROM, UH, GREENBERG THAT COME IN TO DUMP MATERIAL. YOU KNOW, LIKE WE TAKE CARE OF THEM TOO, YOU KNOW, SO A LOT OF MATERIAL GOES IN THERE, YOU KNOW, I'M PRETTY LIKE, I LOVE TALKING IN FRONT OF PEOPLE, BUT YOU KNOW, LOOKING BEHIND ME IS LIKE, WHAT THE F**K? , WATCH THE LANGUAGE CAN'T. SORRY ABOUT THAT. YOU CAN'T DO THAT. SO I'M, I'M ORGANIC, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT. BUT YEAH, UM, UH, WORKING FOR THE WAS A BLESSING. IT CHANGED MY LIFE, YOU KNOW, I, I LEARNED A LOT [02:00:01] OF SKILLS, YOU KNOW? UM, AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, JUST, IT'S A BLESSING FOR ME TO BE HERE, YOU KNOW, AND TALKING IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, I KNOW THEY, EVERYBODY SAYS A NAME, YOU KNOW, BUT THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TALK IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW? AND YEAH, THAT'S, UH, ME IF YOU GUYS, ANY YOU GOT ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? YEAH, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, UH, BEFORE, UH, IT WAS INDICATED THAT THEY WERE RATED THE BEST, UH, COMPANY IN WESTCHESTER TO, UH, WORK FOR. AND MAYBE COULD YOU, COULD YOU ELABORATE ON WHY YOU THINK, UH, UH, THEY ALL HAS EARNED THAT DISTINCTION? OH YEAH, DEFINITELY. IT IS THE, THE COMPANY INVEST IN YOU. YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WHEN I STARTED HERE, I DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THOSE TOOLS, YOU KNOW, BUT GLEN, YOU KNOW, HE REALLY INVESTED IN ME WITH TRAINING PROGRAMS, YOU KNOW, SENDING ME OUT TO OTHER STATES, YOU KNOW, EMRA TRAINING DOWN IN WEST IN BEAVER, WEST VIRGINIA, YOU KNOW, THINGS LIKE THAT TO HELP ME, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, HELP ME WITH MANAGEMENT TRAINING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. LEARNING HOW TO MANAGE PEOPLE AND DEAL WITH SITUATIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UH, EVEN WE DO SOMETHING CALLED, UH, THE ARBINGER ARBINGER TRAINING. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY TOOK AND RAN WITH, YOU KNOW? SO, AND IT'S JUST THAT, THAT'S WHY THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A REALLY GOOD COMPANY TO WORK FOR, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY INVEST IN YOU, YOU KNOW? SO THEY REALLY, THEY REALLY TAKE PRIDE IN THAT, YOU KNOW, INVESTING IN THEIR WORKERS, YOU KNOW, AND BUILDING AND YOU JUST GO UP FROM THERE, YOU KNOW? GREAT. THANK YOU. GOT IT. ? I'M GOOD. YES. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. YEAH, SORRY. YOU WERE SO GOOD THAT ONE DAY YOU'RE GONNA RUN FOR OFFICE. OH YEAH. JUST WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE NEXT TIME AND YOU'LL BE SET. SO OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS, UH, WARREN SHEELY. HELLO. HOW YOU DOING? LITTLE SHY. LITTLE SHY. HOW YOU DOING? UM, MY NAME IS WARREN SHELLY. I LIVE IN DALLAS FERRY. I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR MR. GLEN. I REALLY APPRECIATE WORKING FOR HIM. HE'S A GOOD GUY. UM, I COULD GIVE YOU A LIST OF THINGS THAT I COULD SAY IS GOOD ABOUT THE COMPANY, BUT BESIDES THE COMPANY, I HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. GOOD PEOPLE HELP ME OUT A LOT. I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT TO DO IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE COMPANY OR DIDN'T HAVE DS FERRY. I MEAN, OUNCE, EXCUSE ME, DIDN'T HAVE AN OUNCE FOR A LOCATION. UM, IT'S THE MAIN THING. I JUST SAY, I'M JUST A LITTLE SHY GUY, SO I DON'T, ANY QUESTIONS YOU WANNA ASK ME? NO, I THINK IT'S JUST REALLY GREAT FOR COMPANY, LOCAL BUSINESS TO HAVE THE LOYALTY OF, UH, OF THEIR, YOU KNOW, THEIR WORKERS. YEAH. YES, ABSOLUTELY. AND THAT'S REALLY GREAT. ABSOLUTELY. YES SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS DOMINIC. UH, CASTELLI. OKAY. I FEEL LIKE I SHOULD HAVE DANCED DOWN THE AISLE, LIKE A JENNIFER HUDSON SHOW, , YOU SHOULD HAVE SOME GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY. UH, MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD SUPERVISOR, FINER. I KNOW MANY OF YOU KNOW ME, BUT FOR THE RECORD, MY NAME IS DOMINIC CASTELLI, JR. I AM A PROUD REPRESENTATIVE OF THE MEN AND WOMEN, THE HARDWORKING MEN AND WOMEN AT TEAMSTERS LOCAL 4, 5, 6, MANY OF WHOM ARE IN THIS ROOM, UH, WHO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE AND AND CLEAN EVERY SINGLE DAY, INCLUDING THE, UH, TOWN OF GREENBURG, SANITATION AND HIGHWAY DEPARTMENT. SO GOD BLESS THEM AS WELL. UH, I'M ALSO A RESIDENT TAXPAYER HERE. I KNOW MANY OF YOU KNOW THAT. UH, SO THIS ISSUE HITS HOME FOR ME, NOT JUST AS A A UNION REP, BUT AS, AS YOUR NEIGHBOR, AS A FATHER, AND SOMEONE WHO TRULY CARES ABOUT THIS TOWN. UM, I'M HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE INDUSTRIES. I I DON'T THINK IT'S RIGHT. I WHAT'S BEING PUT IN FRONT OF THEM RIGHT NOW JUST DOESN'T AFFECT ONE BUSINESS. UH, IT AFFECTS REAL PEOPLE, REAL FAMILIES, AS YOU'VE SEEN FROM MY BROTHER SPEAKING BEFORE ME. UH, THIS AFFECTS THEM AT HOME. UH, AND THIS CAN PUT THEM OUT OF WORK, AND IT'S NOT RIGHT TO THEIR FAMILIES AND NOT RIGHT TO THE COMMUNITY. UH, SALESMAN IS SOLID, RESPONSIBLE EMPLOYER FOR DECADES. THEY'VE ALWAYS LOOKED OUT FOR THEIR WORKERS, THEIR CUSTOMERS, AND THE TRUCKS THAT COME IN AND OUTTA THE FACILITY. I CAN TELL YOU FROM EXPERIENCE, OUR MEMBERS, THE DRIVERS THAT GO IN AND OUTTA THAT FACILITY, UH, WHO DO BUSINESS THERE, ALL SAY THE SAME THING. THEY'LL, THEY'LL TREAT DALE TREATS PEOPLE WITH RESPECT AND DIGNITY, UH, TREATS OUR, OUR UNION MEMBERS WITH RESPECT AND DIGNITY. UH, THEY TREAT THE COMMUNITY WITH RESPECT AND DIGNITY. LET'S NOT FORGET THAT. UH, THEY RUN A CLEAN AND SAFE OPERATION. THEY MAKE, UH, TRUCKING COMPANIES, UH, FULLY COMPLIANT WITH, MAKE SURE THEY'RE FULLY COMPLIANT WITH THE LAW. AND IN ALL THE YEARS THEY'VE BEEN IN ELMSFORD, I CAN'T EVER REMEMBER A COMPLAINT ABOUT THE INDUSTRIES. UH, AND THAT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT THEM. NOW, THIS SITE PLAN FOR THEIR RECYCLING FILLINGS BEING DISCUSSED TONIGHT, IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE SMALL AND PAPER, BUT IT'S REALLY NOT. I PROMISE YOU, IF THE IS FORCED TO CUT BACK OR EVEN WORSE MOVE OUT, UH, IT WON'T JUST HURT THEM. IT'S GONNA BE A RIPPLE THROUGH THE ENTIRE ECONOMY. IN GREENBURG, UH, OUR LOCAL TRUCKERS [02:05:01] AND CONTRACTORS WOULD BE FORCED TO TRAVEL 20 TO 30 MILES AWAY, INCLUDING MANY OF THE TOWN'S TRUCKS, TO HAVE A FACILITY TO DUMP AT. UH, THAT MEANS MORE FUEL, MORE TIME, MORE COSTS, AND LESS MONEY STAYING IN GREENBURG AND MORE MONEY GOING OUTTA GREENBURG. AND WHAT HAPPENS, THE BIG OUT OF AREA COMPANIES GOBBLE EVERYBODY UP. THE ONES THAT LIVE HERE, THE ONES THAT, THE COMPANIES THAT PAY TAXES HERE, THEY'RE GONE OUTTA STATE COMPANIES ARE HERE. WHAT HAPPENS TO OUR LOCAL TAX BASE? WHAT HAPPENS TO THE TAX REVENUE? WHAT HAPPENS TO THE LOCAL JOBS THEY DRY UP? AND WHO THE, WHO DOES THE BURDEN FALL BACK ON ME, THE TAXPAYERS, NOT ANYBODY ELSE, THE TAXPAYERS, BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA LOSE ALL THAT REVENUE. SO I HAVE ONE THING TO ASK. IF WE DRIVE OUT GOOD EMPLOYERS LIKE DALE, WHO PICKS UP THE BILL, THE TAXPAYERS, UH, YOU KNOW, DALE IS NOT A NEW FACE TO THE COMMUNITY. THEY'VE BEEN HERE FOR OVER 25 YEARS. UH, THEIR FACES HAVEN'T CHANGED, BUT LATELY IT FEELS LIKE SOME NEW FACES AROUND THE TOWN ARE TRYING TO MAKE A NAME FOR THEMSELVES. AND I'LL TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, THEY'RE NOT GONNA MAKE A NAME ON THE BACKS OF OUR MEMBERS AND FAIL INDUSTRIES. I'LL TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW. IT AIN'T HAPPENINGS NOT HAPPENING. THEY CAN PLAY THE GAMES ALL THEY WANT. IT'S NOT HAPPENING. DALE, DALE DESERVES THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT. THEY'VE BEEN HERE 25 YEARS. OTHER PEOPLE HAVE NOT. SO ON BEHALF OF TEAMSTER LOCAL 4, 5, 6, AND THERE IS A PROUD RESIDENT OF GREENBURG, UH, I'M ASKING YOU TO TAKE A, TAKE A STEP BACK AND LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE SUPPORTING DALE. DALE MEETS SUPPORTING GREENBURG. THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU. YEAH, GO. YOUR ADVISOR. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE CONCERNS, YOU KNOW, THAT I HAVE IS, UM, THAT IF WE FORCE OUT BUSINESSES THAT HAVE NO COMPLAINTS AGAINST THEM, WILL THAT IMPACT OUR ABILITY OF ATTRACTING OTHER BUSINESSES, UH, TO, UH, TO GREENBERG, BECAUSE WE DO HAVE VACANCIES AND I'M WONDERING IF WORD OF MOUTH IS GREENBERG'S WOULD BE A PLACE TO DO BUSINESS. I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE MORE VACANCIES. IT'S, SO I THINK THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHT. IT'S NOT EVEN ATTRACTING NEW BUSINESSES. YOU HAVE BUSINESSES THAT ARE HERE THAT ARE LOCAL, THAT DUMPING THIS FACILITY. AND FOR THEM TO HAVE TO GO 20 TO 30 MILES AWAY, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT OF BEING HERE WHEN THEY CAN MOVE SOMEWHERE CLOSER TO ANOTHER FACILITY, IT'S GONNA DRIVE OUT BUSINESS. THERE'S PLENTY OF ENFORCEMENT ON JOB SITES WITHOUT A AREA CONTRACTORS. THERE'S BIG DEVELOPERS WHERE TRUCKS ARE OVERLOADED EVERY DAY AND THERE MIGHT ONE BIT OF PIECE OF ENFORCEMENT ON THEM JOBS. THAT'S WHERE YOU SHOULD FOCUS YOUR, YOUR ENERGY. NOT HERE. MAYBE, YOU KNOW, MAYBE ONE OF THE THINGS, AND THIS IS A FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILWOMAN, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, JOYCE, YOUR, YOUR COMMENTS, UM, MAYBE WE COULD GET LIKE A LIST OF SOME BUSINESSES THAT PERHAPS COULD POTENTIALLY GO OUT OF BUSINESS. IF I'LL GET YOU, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL, I THINK. ABSOLUTELY. I THOUGHT WE WERE HERE FOR A, A SITE PLAN. I CONFUSED. I FEEL LIKE THERE'S NOBODY TRYING TO PUT DALE OUT OF BUSINESS. IT SEEMS LIKE MEMBERS WELL PROVE THE SITE PLAN. SIMPLE PROVE SITE PLAN. THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE WAY IT WORKS. IT IS, IT IS, IT IS THE RIGHT WORD. APPROVE THE SITE PLAN JOB. THERE'S A PROCESS. APPROVE THE JOB IS A PROCESS. I'M SORRY I'M PASSIONATE. YOU'RE PUTTING A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTTA WORK. BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT WE'RE NOT, IF THIS DOES NOT GO THROUGH, YOU PUT A LOT, I'M JUST TELLING YOU, IF YOU PUT A LOT, IF YOU PUT, IF YOU DON'T APPROVE THE SITE PLAN, YOU PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTTA WORK. THAT'S ALL I'M SAYING. AND YOU HURT THE TAXPAYER. ME. THANK YOU. HUH? OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ELIZABETH BRACKEN THOMPSON. ONE OUT OF BUSINESS ARE TAKING JOBS AWAY. THAT'S, NO, OF COURSE NOT. COME ON. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT GOOD. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH BRACKEN THOMPSON, AND I AM HERE TONIGHT REPRESENTING, AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BUSINESSES, THE BUSINESS COUNCIL OF WESTCHESTER. IT IS THE COUNTY'S LARGEST BUSINESS ORGANIZATION FOCUSING EXCLUSIVELY ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND ADVOCACY. AND I AM HERE TO EXPRESS AN UNEQUIVOCAL SUPPORT ON BEHALF OF THE BUSINESS COUNCIL FOR THA INDUSTRY'S APPLICATION FOR SITE PLAN APPROVAL. THIS WOULD ALLOW THIS COMPANY TO CONTINUE THE VITAL OPERATIONS AND CONTINUE THIS REALLY IMPORTANT WORK OF RECYCLING, OF CONSTRUCTION, OF DEMOLITION DEBRIS AT 50 WAREHOUSE LANE IN ELMSFORD. THE BCW IS IMMENSELY PROUD OF THE COMMITMENT THAT GLEN PANA AND HIS ENTIRE COMPANY HAS MADE TO WESTCHESTER COUNTY. THEY INDUSTRIES IS NOT JUST A LOCAL BUSINESS, IT'S A CORNERSTONE OF OUR CONSTRUCTION LANDSCAPE. THROUGH ITS DAILY SERVICE TO UTILITIES, MUNICIPALITIES, AND MAJOR CONTRACTORS, THE INDUSTRY'S OPERATIONS ARE ESSENTIAL TO THIS COUNTY'S SUSTAINABILITY EFFORTS. THE COMPANY CONVERTS TWO OF EVERY THREE TONS OF EXCAVATED MATERIAL IN WESTCHESTER INTO REUSABLE PRODUCTS. MOREOVER, THE INDUSTRIES RECYCLES TWICE AS MUCH MATERIAL AS THE FOUR OTHER DEBRIS RECYCLING FACILITIES IN THE REGION COMBINED TO ENSURE [02:10:01] LOCAL LEADERS UNDERSTAND THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THEIR WORK. THE BCW HAS HELPED ARRANGE SITE VISITS FOR ELECTED OFFICIALS AND STATE AGENCY LEADERS TO THE SITE HERE IN ELMSFORD TO SEE FIRSTHAND THE ENVIRONMENTALLY RESPONSIBLE PROCESSES THAT THE COMPANY DEMONSTRATES ON A DAILY BASIS. THE COMPANY'S SAFETY FIRST CONCERN FOR ITS STAFF TRANSLATES INTO COMPREHENSIVE TRAINING FOR ALL THE EMPLOYEES. AND YOU HEARD SOME OF THEM TONIGHT. THE TRAINING HAS ALLOWED MORE THAN 25 YEARS OF OPERATION WITHOUT A FIRST RESPONDER CALL OR EMERGENCY AT THEIR FACILITIES. FURTHERMORE, THERE HAVE BEEN NO RECORDED COMPLAINTS RELATED TO SAFETY OPERATIONS OR ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES FOR 25 YEARS BEYOND THEIR CORE BUSINESS. FAIL INDUSTRIES IS AN IMPORTANT CORPORATE CITIZEN, AS YOU HEARD. THEY ACTIVELY SUPPORT COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS PROVING THAT THEIR COMMITMENT EXTENDS WAY BEYOND BUSINESS INTEREST AND WELL INTO THE WELLBEING OF RESIDENTS. HERE IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY AND IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG DALE INDUSTRIES. CHARITABLE SUPPORT INCLUDES PAUSE CROSS, WHO YOU'LL HEAR FROM TONIGHT, THE ANIMAL RESCUE, UH, UH, FACILITY LOCATED RIGHT NEXT DOOR. YOU HEARD FROM JOE STOUT AND THE WESTCHESTER PARKS FOUNDATION. THEY ALSO SUPPORT THE FRESH AIR FUND AND SCENIC HUDSON. YOU KNOW, THE IMPORTANCE OF THE INDUSTRIES ELMSFORD SIDE TO OUR REGIONAL CONSTRUCTION ECONOMY CANNOT BE UNDERESTIMATED. THE LOCATION IS CRITICAL TO CON ED'S INFRASTRUCTURE WORK. LOCAL CONTRACTORS DEPEND ON FAIL FOR THEIR RESPONSIBLE RECYCLING. LEGAL RECYCLING PREVENTS ILLEGAL DUMPING, AS WE SAW TONIGHT IN THE VIDEO AND SITE SUSTAINS 13 FULL-TIME EMPLOYEES AS WELL AS THE TRUCK DRIVERS WHO DELIVERED DEBRIS DAILY. SIMPLY PUT, FAIL INDUSTRIES IS A SHINING EXAMPLE OF THE KIND OF COMPANIES WE NEED TO RECRUIT AND RETAIN IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY. AND THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IS LUCKY TO HAVE THEM HERE. THEIR BLEND OF ECONOMIC VIABILITY, ENVIRONMENTAL STEWARDSHIP, AND DEDICATED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MAKES THEM AN INDISPENSABLE ASSET TO YOUR TOWN. WE RESPECTFULLY URGE THE TOWN BOARD TO SUPPORT THEIR SITE PLAN APPROVAL AND ALLOW THEM TO OPERATE THEIR CRUCIAL EFFECTS ON THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND FOR OUR ENVIRONMENT AND OUR COLLECTIVE COMMITMENT TO SUSTAINABILITY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND FOR LISTENING TO ME HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, NEXT SPEAKER. JEFF LOUGHLIN. NOPE. WE HAVE SOME ZOOM SPEAKERS AS WELL. THANK GOD. PERRY. PERRY KOFF. WE DO, WE. AND THEN JENNIFER LUCCI. ARE WE DONE WITH THE PEOPLE HERE? YES. NO SPEAKERS HERE. THERE'S NO MORE SPEAKERS THAT WANT TO SPEAK HERE. OH, THAT, THAT IS, IS ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT FOR THEO FOR PEOPLE TO PY TO SIGN UP FOR THE, PARDON ME? YOU CAN COME UP. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE IN THE ROOM HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SIGN UP THE SIGN. WALTER, YOU COULD COME UP IF YOU'D LIKE. SPEAK ON SITE PLAN. THANK YOU. UM, MY NAME IS WALTER SIMON. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I WAS THE PREVIOUS, UH, CHAIR OF THE PLANNING BOARD. SO I'M QUITE AWARE THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS. UH, SO I'M NOT ADVOCATING THAT WE DON'T GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT WHAT I AM SAYING, IT IS AN IMPORTANT COMPANY HERE IN THE TOWN, AND IT'S BEEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS. I THINK WE NEED TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT WE NEED TO DO IT QUICKLY. I'M NOT SAYING TO TAKE ANY SHORTCUTS, BUT YOU HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION NOW. YEAH. YOU HAVE THE LATEST PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WAS GIVEN TO YOU TONIGHT. SO OF COURSE YOU CANNOT, EXCUSE ME, YOU CANNOT MAKE A DECISION ON THAT BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T READ IT. BUT I THINK WHAT YOU SHOULD DO, AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL DO, IS TO READ THAT INFORMATION AND MAKE A DECISION. BECAUSE ONCE YOU READ INFORMATION AND ONCE YOU SEE THE BENEFIT OF THIS COMPANY STAYING IN THE TOWN, I AM CONVINCED THAT YOU WILL APPROVE IT. SO YOU, THE INFORMATION, LIKE IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DO THAT. I'M NOT ASKING YOU NOT TO DO IT, BUT DO IT. THERE'S NO REASON WHY A COMPANY LIKE THIS HAVE TO HAVE AN APPLICATION BEFORE THE TOWN FOR OVER TWO AND A HALF YEARS. THANK [02:15:01] YOU. OKAY. AND OUR NEXT SPEAKER ON ZOOM WILL BE JENNIFER ANGELI. HELLO. HI THERE. UH, MY NAME IS JENNIFER ANGELI AND AS MOST OF YOU, UH, CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES. YES. OKAY. UH, MOST OF YOU GUYS KNOW THAT I'M THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF CRO ANIMAL RESCUE. WE ARE DIRECTLY NEXT DOOR TO SALE INDUSTRIES. AND I THINK THAT PUTS US IN A UNIQUE POSITION TO SPEAK ABOUT THEIR TEAM, THEIR OPERATIONS, THEIR SAFETY. AND I KNOW A LOT OF IT'S BEEN SAID ALREADY TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANNA REITERATE THAT THEY ARE FANTASTIC NEIGHBORS. WE, AND THIS DIDN'T JUST START TWO AND A HALF YEARS AGO, THEY HAVE BEEN FANTASTIC NEIGHBORS TO US SINCE WE FIRST MOVED IN. AND EVEN UNDER THE PREVIOUS ORGANIZATION WHERE I ALSO WORKED, THEY, ALL OF OUR PLAY YARDS FOR OUR DOGS ARE FILLED WITH ROCKS, FINISHED MATERIAL FROM FAIL INDUSTRIES. AND TOMORROW THEY'RE ACTUALLY COMING TO REFILL OUR PLAY YARDS AS THEY DO EVERY SINGLE YEAR. THEY PLOW OUT OUR FACILITY EVERY WINTER. WE'VE NEVER ASKED THEM TO DO THIS. THEY ALWAYS JUST COME OVER AND DO IT. AND EVEN WHEN THEY DON'T HAVE A TEAM, LIKE DURING THE STOP ORDER, I BELIEVE IT WAS DURING THE STOP ORDER, THEY DIDN'T HAVE A TEAM THERE. AND THEY SENT SOMEBODY SPECIAL JUST SO THAT WE COULD BE PLOWED OUT SO THAT OUR BUSINESS COULD CONTINUE TO OPERATE. AND THINGS AS SIMPLE AS A, A LIGHT FELL DOWN IN OUR PARKING LOT AND IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH FAIL. BUT THEIR WORKERS PULLED THROUGH AT 6:00 AM BEFORE WE GOT THERE, NOTICED THAT OUR LAMP POST WAS DOWN AND THEY HIRED AN ELECTRICIAN AND REPLACED IT AND PAID FOR IT FOR US. AND EVERY YEAR WE GET A DONATION OF 40,000 POUNDS OF PET FOOD. AND WE CALL JESSE AND WE ASK HIM, HEY, WE HAVE A TRUCK COMING. IT COULD BE 6:00 AM IT COULD BE 4:00 PM CAN YOU SEND A GUY OVER WITH A FORKLIFT? AND HE ALWAYS SAYS YES WITHOUT HESITATION. AND THIS PAST, THIS PAST MONTH, WE HAD THIS DELIVERY AND THEY STAYED PAST 5:00 PM TO HELP US GET EVERY SINGLE PALLET OFF THAT TRUCK THAT THEN GETS DISTRIBUTED TO ALL SHELTERS IN THE NORTHEAST. SO THAT IS JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF THE KINDNESS AND GENEROSITY THAT THEY SHOW US. AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, A SAYING, AND MAYBE IT'S CHEESY, THAT, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A, WE ARE FAMILY AND FAIL IS A HUGE PART OF THAT PAUSE CROSS FAMILY. AND THEY SAVE US THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EVERY SINGLE YEAR. AND WE WOULDN'T WANT ANYBODY ELSE AS OUR NEIGHBOR. SO, UM, I HOPE THE TOWN WILL SEE THEM IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO RESPONSIBLE, COMPASSIONATE NEIGHBORS. AND, UM, THEY REALLY ARE TRULY AN INTEGRAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YEAH, THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE NICE THINGS ABOUT, UH, THIS HEARING, IF THERE'S A SILVER LINING IN MAKING YOU STAY UP LATE AT NIGHT, IS THAT AS A RESULT OF THIS HEARING, I THINK MORE PEOPLE APPRECIATE YOUR BUSINESS. AND I FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, SINCE I'VE BEEN SUPERVISOR, WE'VE HAD A LOT OF HEARINGS. THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THAT I'VE EVER BEEN SINCE I'VE BEEN SUPERVISOR OR A LEGISLATOR THAT THERE WAS UNANIMOUS SUPPORT FOR AN APPLICANT. UH, THERE, IS THERE ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WHO OPPOSES THIS APPLICATION? THERE'S NOBODY. AND IS THERE ANYBODY IN THIS ROOM WHO HAS ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS APPLICANT? JULIE, THERE'S, THERE'S NOBODY. SO I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY A TOWN GOVERNMENT WOULD BE BASICALLY, UH, MAKING A BUSINESS SUFFER WHEN THEY BASICALLY HAVE BEEN A POSITIVE, HAVE HAD A POSITIVE IMPACT ON, UM, ON OUR COMMUNITY. YOU KNOW, I, AGAIN, THE BIGGEST STRUGGLE WE'VE HAD AS, AS A TOWN IS FILLING VACANCIES HERE AND ENCOURAGING MORE BUSINESSES TO COME HERE, GOOD BUSINESSES TO COME HERE. AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE, ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECTS OF GETTING A NEW BUSINESS TO COME HERE IS WORD OF MOUTH. SO IF, IF THE CURRENT BUSINESSES TALK POSITIVELY ABOUT COMING HERE AND WHY IT'S GOOD TO TO BE HERE AND WHY THEY'RE GONNA BE TREATED, YOU KNOW, BETTER, IT'S GONNA ENABLE US TO GET HIGHER QUALITY, UH, NEW BUSINESSES TO FILL VACANCIES. SO I DEFINITELY AM SUPPORTIVE OF THIS APPLICATION. AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WE ARE NOT DOUBTING IN ANY WAY THAT YOU ARE A WONDERFUL COMMUNITY PARTNER, A WONDERFUL NEIGHBOR THAT IS A SEPARATE ISSUE FROM ANY CONCERNS OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT MAY HAVE IDENTIFIED WITH YOUR APPLICATION. BEING A GOOD PERSON AND A GOOD NEIGHBOR IS NOT THE SAME AS NECESSARILY FULFILLING ALL THE REQUIREMENTS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. SO NO ONE IS QUESTIONING THE, UM, THE WORK ETHIC OF YOUR, OF YOUR EMPLOYEES OR, OR THE DEDICATION OF YOUR, OF, OF THE HEAD OF THE COMPANIES [02:20:01] OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. THESE ARE SEPARATE THINGS. SO I THINK, I DON'T LIKE MIXING NO, BUT I'M GIVING YOU MY WELL, NO, NO, NO. I HAVE A RIGHT. TELL MY OPINION. OF COURSE YOU DO. OF COURSE YOU DO. I SUPPORT. HAVE YOU READ THE REPORT? YES. I'VE, I'VE READ, I'VE BEEN, I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS FOR A FEW YEARS, AND I BASICALLY BELIEVE THEY'RE A GOOD BUSINESS AND I DON'T WANT, SEE, I THINK THAT THEY, THEY ARE PROBABLY A WONDERFUL BUSINESS. THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M GONNA IGNORE THE REPORT OF OUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT. SO THAT'S ALL. CAN WE STOP HAVING OUTBURSTS FROM THE AUDIENCE? THANK YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK. YOU HAD YOUR OPPORTUNITY. SPEAKERS. WHAT'S THAT? WHO HAVE SPEAKERS ONLINE? THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JULIE TEAGUE. OOPS. SHE'S NOW COMING UP. I HAVE TO SAY. YES. JULIE, IF YOU GET NERVOUS, YOU WOULD HAVE TO SAY YES PLEASE. RIGHT? SHE'S DECLINED TO BE PROMOTED. NEXT. NEXT ONE'S. JUST DO IT ONE TIME 'CAUSE MAYBE SHE'S NOT PAYING ATTENTION. NEXT SPEAKER IS PERRY, TRY TRY ONE MORE TIME. YOU JUST GIMME ANOTHER CHANCE. I KNOW SHE WAS ON THE TRAIN FROM ALL THE, OH, COULD BE, COULD BE A BAD, COULD BE, COULD BE A BAD CONNECTION. SOMEONE WHO'S THAT? IS THAT HER? SO HOW ABOUT, UH, JACOB? AMIR. JACOB, AMIR. OH, HUH. HE'S NOT SEEKING TO SPEAK HERE. HE'S NOT SEEKING TO SPEAK. OH, OKAY. HE HAS HIS HAND RAISED. JACOB, IF YOU DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, PLEASE LOWER YOUR HAND. ALL RIGHT. SO THAT'S IT. AND NO. AND PERRY KOFF. MM-HMM . YES. I'M, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES. AND YOU CAN BEGIN. WHO IS THIS? PERRY. PERRY. KENDALL? YES. UM, HI. MY NAME IS PERRY CATANO. I SERVE AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY SOLID WASTE COMMISSION. UM, I KNOW IT LATE. I THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. I JUST WANTED BRIEFLY TO REPORT TO THIS BOARD ON FAILS COMPLIANCE WITH THE COMMISSION. UH, OUR OFFICE LICENSES AND MONITORS INDIVIDUAL HAULERS, HAULING COMPANIES AND TRANSFER STATIONS, UM, IN, UH, THAT OPERATE WITHIN THE COUNTY. SOLID WASTE AND RECYCLING SYSTEM, AND FORCE THE LAWS RELATING TO THE INDUSTRY. UM, FAIL HAS ALWAYS BEEN RESPONSIVE, COOPERATIVE, AND PROFESSIONAL IN OUR DEALINGS. WE DEAL WITH, UH, THE TRANSFER STATIONS IN THE COUNTY ON A DAILY BASIS. THEY ARE TIMELY IN ALL OF THEIR FEE PAYMENTS. RESPONSIVE TO ALL DOCUMENT REQUESTS SIGNIFICANTLY. UH, SALE HAS NOT RECEIVED A SINGLE VIOLATION DURING MY TENURE WITH THE COMMISSION. AND MY SEARCH OF THE COMMISSION'S RECORDS REVEAL THAT THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY PAST VIOLATIONS EITHER. FAIL IS IN GOOD STANDING WITH THE SOLID WASTE COMMISSION AND HAS BEEN SINCE THEY WERE FIRST LICENSED 20 YEARS AGO. UH, WE HAVE NEVER HAD ANY SORT OF ISSUE, UM, WITH FAIL WITH, UM, COMPLAINTS OR ANYTHING ELSE SINCE MY TENURE FOR THE PAST ALMOST SEVEN YEARS WITH THE COMMISSION. SO I JUST WANTED TO, AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMISSION, MAKE SURE THAT THE BOARD WAS, UH, AWARE OF, OF FAS HISTORY AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE SOLID WASTE COMMISSION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THAT'S IT FOR ALL SPEAKERS. OH, SHE'S ON THE TRAIN. I SHE MIGHT HAVE IT. YEAH, SHE JUST RAISED HER HAND. LET'S SEE. SHE'S IN THE TUNNEL. OH, SHE'S HERE. SHE'S HERE. JULIE. SHE'S FROZEN. SHE'S FROZEN. ANYTIME. MUTE. SHE MIGHT BE FROZEN. SHE'S PROBABLY FROZEN'S FROZEN. YEAH, SHE'S FROZEN. SHE'S TRYING CAN YOU TRY AGAIN? I'M TRYING. CAN YOU HEAR ME? I'M SORRY. I'M IN THE, THIS IS THE, WE CAN HEAR YOU. WHY DON'T YOU SHUT OFF YOUR VIDEO AND JUST DO AUDIO. SO YEAH, MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE THE BANDWIDTH. [02:25:11] I I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA WORK. I THINK AT THIS POINT SHE COULD SUBMIT A COMMENT OR IF IT'S HELD OVER, COME SPEAK NEXT TIME. OR SHE COULD TALK DURING PUBLIC COMMENT AND WE COULD THEN INCORPORATE IT IN AS PART OF THE RECORD YOU HAVE ISSUE. OR SHE CAN TESTIFY AT THE NEXT, WE'RE HOLDING THIS OVER. I MEAN, THERE'S SOMETHING, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THIS STUFF. MM-HMM . WE STILL GOTTA READ THE REPORTS. NOT HOLDING IT OVER. WE'RE ADJOURNING IT FOR ALL OFFICE. ADJOURN. NO HOLDING. WE JUST GOTTA READ THE REPORTS FOR THAT TODAY. ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS? THAT'S IT. NO SPEAKERS? NO. ANYONE? NO MORE SPEAKERS. UM, OKAY. JUST ONE MINUTE IF I CAN. AND THEN LET'S, IF, IF I, IF I MAY, I KNOW SOME OF YOU ARE A LITTLE FRUSTRATED BY ALL OF THE POSITIVE INFORMATION BECAUSE WHAT, WHY IS THAT RELEVANT TO THE SITE PLAN? AND, AND JOY AND GINA, BOTH OF YOU REACTED VISIBLY AND, AND I AT LEAST I FELT LIKE YOU, THIS IS WONDERFUL AND AUDIBLE, BUT WHY, WHY DID GLEN DECIDE TO DO THIS LIKE THIS TONIGHT? IT'S REAL SIMPLE. AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BELIEVE ME, BUT YOU DO HAVE TO LISTEN TO ME. I APPEAR IN FRONT OF THIS TOWN AND SO MANY OTHER TOWNS, AND YOU ALL KNOW IT. THIS IS MY THIRD PUBLIC HEARING THIS WEEK. I'M ALL AROUND THIS COUNTY AND I'VE DONE A TON OF WORK IN THIS TOWN. I REPRESENTED THIS TOWN AS OUTSIDE SPECIAL COUNSEL FOR SEVEN YEARS. THE WAY WE HAVE EXPERIENCED THIS APPLICATION FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS IS REALLY UNUSUAL. YOU JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHAT WE'VE BEEN PUT THROUGH IS REALLY UNUSUAL. THAT'S THE FRUSTRATION THAT A LAUDABLE BUSINESS IN YOUR COMMUNITY HAS. THAT'S WHY WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE, TAKE, TAKE THE TECHNICAL AND PUSH IT TO THE SIDE. YOU GOT A BUSINESS IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT IS, WHAT'D YOU GUYS SAY? MAYBE? WONDERFUL. GOSH, GO AHEAD. MAYBE, MAYBE. WONDERFUL TO PACK A ROOM LIKE THIS IS SORT OF UNPRECEDENTED. WE WANTED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE PLIGHT ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR. I SAID AT THE BEGINNING, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, NOW WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR HELP. WE'RE ASKING FOR YOU TO GET US OUT OF THE CIRCLE. WE'VE BEEN IN, SOME OF YOUR PROFESSIONALS HAVE HEARD ME COMPLAINING. SOME MIGHT SAY FETCHING FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS. I'M ASKING FOR SOME HELP TO GET TO THE END OF THIS SO THAT WE CAN PUT THEM IN BUSINESS, NOT BOTHER YOU, NOT BOTHER YOUR STAFF. MAKE SURE THAT ALL YOUR TECHNICAL ISSUES ARE ADDRESSED. BUT ON THAT LAST POINT, DON'T JUST READ THE MATERIAL THAT YOU MIGHT BE GETTING FROM SOME READ THE MATERIAL THAT YOU'RE GETTING FROM EXPERTS. KEN BRENER, IRV GILL, PSNS, THE FACT THAT YOU'RE DOING A SITE PLAN REVIEW. AND PSNS IS NOT IN THE ROOM AFTER $120,000 THAT, THAT HE PAID THEM. SORT OF ODD. 'CAUSE IF YOU WANT SOME ADVICE ON YOUR SITE PLAN, BRING IN THE SPECIALIZED ENGINEERS THAT YOU ALL HAD TO HIRE TO REVIEW THE STUFF THAT WE WERE DEALING WITH THE TOWN. SO THAT WAS THE ZONING. I DON'T WANNA, I'M SORRY. THAT WAS THE ZONING BOARD. I I UNDERSTAND THAT THE BOARD, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE, THE TOWN BOARD. BUT FRANCIS, YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT I, I ENCOURAGED YOUR STAFF TO BRING P, S AND S HERE BECAUSE I FIGURED AT SOME POINT YOU'D SAY, WE NEED TO REVIEW THE PLANS, WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE MATERIAL. AND I WANTED YOU, FRANCIS, AND THE ENTIRE TOWN BOARD TO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE SAME EXPERTISE THAT THE ZONING BOARD HAD. I REALLY THOUGHT YOU, YOU WERE ENTITLED TO THAT. YOU DESERVE THAT. I DON'T WANNA OVERSTAY MY WELCOME. SO DO YOU THINK IF WE HAVE A WORK SESSION, WE SHOULD INVITE HIM TO THE WORK SESSION? ABSOLUTELY. AND, AND PAUL GARRETT KNOWS I BEGGED FOR A WORK SESSION BEFORE THIS PUBLIC HEARING. 'CAUSE I THOUGHT IT'D BE SO MUCH MORE PRODUCTIVE TO SIT WITH YOU AT THE TABLE WITH THE PLANS AND DISCUSS THE DETAILS, ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS. BEFORE THIS ALL HAD TO HAPPEN AND ALL THESE FOLKS HAD TO SHOW UP. I ASKED HIM NOT TO PUT THIS ON FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 22ND. AND GLENN SAID, DAVID, IF IT'S THE ONLY WAY THAT IT'S GONNA GET US TO A SITE PLAN APPROVAL, TAKE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND LET'S GET THE AUDIENCE FROM THE TOWN BOARD. 'CAUSE AFTER TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WE'RE DELIGHTED YOU GUYS ARE FOCUSED ON THIS, HONESTLY, BECAUSE MAYBE WE WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN PUT THROUGH THIS IF ALL OF YOU HAD BEEN FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WE'RE HERE. SO ENOUGH SAID, THANK YOU FOR THE TIME. THANK YOU FOR THE PATIENCE. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING AND UNDERSTANDING THAT THESE FOLKS TOOK THE TIME AWAY FROM THEIR FAMILY FOR NO OTHER REASON THAN THEY KNOW THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WE KNOW THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. WE'RE ASKING YOU NOW TO ACKNOWLEDGE, AND LET'S GET TO THE END OF THE SITE PLAN. IF YOU NEED TO HOLD IT OVER TO REVIEW THE REPORTS. TELL US WHEN YOU WANT US BACK. TELL US IF YOU NEED A WORK SESSION. TELL US WHAT YOU NEED FROM GLENN AND HIS EXPERTS. ALL WE WANT TO DO IS GO HOME, GO TO SLEEP, AND LET HIM GO TO BUSINESS TOMORROW. SO DO YOU, IS IT POSSIBLE TO, UH, PUT THIS ON THE WORK SESSION AGENDA FOR, UH, FOR TUESDAY AND TO HAVE THE CONSULTANT AT THE, AT THE WORK SESSION ON TUESDAY? AND THIS WAY WE COULD BUDGET WHAT WE'RE STILL IN BUDGET. THAT'S RIGHT. WELL, THE BUDGET HEARING'S GONNA GO TILL THE END OF DECEMBER. YOU KNOW, THE BUDGET'S GONNA GO TILL THE END OF DECEMBER. SO I'M NO, YOU HAVE A BUDGET THAT YOU HAVE TO TURN IT BY OCTOBER 30TH. YEAH, BUT I THINK, I THINK I UNDERSTAND. LISTEN, LISTEN, I'M NOT, I, I DON'T WANT THIS TO COME ACROSS THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO WORK WITH YOU. [02:30:01] BUT WE DO HAVE, WE DO HAVE A SCHEDULE THAT WE TRY TO AT LEAST ADHERE TO. OKAY? WE ARE IN OUR BUDGET SEASON. YES. THIS IS IMPORTANT. THIS IS UP IN FRONT OF US. I THINK IF YOU GIVE US SOME TIME, YOU'VE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH GARRETT, LET US SCHEDULE IT, GINA, YOU KNOW, LET'S JUST HAVE A PROCESS. THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE WANT DO. SO CAN WE JUST PICK A DAY NOW? ANY DAY NOW, BECAUSE THE, THE, THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE BUDGET. THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS. SO THE QUESTION IS, IF THEY'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR BUSINESS, WHY HOLD THEM UP? SO THE THING IS, WE, IF WE COULD, IF WE COULD MAKE A DECISION QUICKLY, THEY'RE CURRENTLY OPERATING, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THAT'S NOT, YOU GET THE IMPRESSION THAT THEY'RE NOT IN, THEY'RE, YOU ARE OPERATING CORRECTLY. YOU ARE OPERATING. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR. YOU ARE OPERATING. PLEASE, SIR. YOU'RE NOT TAKING AS FAR, OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT TAKING, BUT YOU ARE OPERATING. YES. YOU HAVE EMPLOYEES. YES. HAVE YOU LAID OFF ANY EMPLOYEES DURING THE STOP WORK PERIOD? BUT I MEAN, WAS IT RELATED TO THE STOP WORK ORDER? YES. AND NOW IT, AND THERE NO STOP ORDER. PARDON ME? THERE IS NO MORE STOP ORDER. ARE THEY BACK IS FINE. YOU HAVE HEARD US BECAUSE THE ASPHALTS, THEY THINK THAT'S THE ONE THING PEOPLE STILL CALL US ABOUT. I GIVE AN ANSWER. I DUNNO. SO THEN IT'S CLEAR. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SHUT YOU DOWN. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK, HAVE YOU WORK WITHIN CERTAIN PARAMETERS. YOU HAD A SPECIAL PERMIT GIVEN TO YOU YEARS AGO THAT HAD PARAMETERS TO IT, PARTICULARLY ABOUT HEIGHT. AND EVERY DECEMBER, A MEMBER OF YOUR FIRM AFFIRMED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT YOU WERE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE SPECIAL PERMIT CONDITIONS. WHEN WE HAD A NEW BUILDING INSPECTOR AND THE BUILDING INSPECTOR GOT THAT LETTER AND SAW THE PILES AND HOW HIGH THEY WERE NOT EVEN ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR SITE, THAT LETTER COULDN'T POSSIBLY HAVE BEEN ACCURATE, COULD NOT HAVE POSSIBLY BEEN TRUE. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. YOUR SITE HAD NO ELECTRICAL PERMITS FOR THE ELECTRICAL WORK. YOUR SITE HAD NO PLUMBING PERMITS FOR THE PLUMBING WORK. THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE. SO WE'RE TRYING TO GET YOU TO A POINT WHERE THERE IS AN AGREEMENT AMONG EXPERTS AS TO HOW BEST TO HAVE YOU OPERATE. WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SHUT YOU DOWN. WE'RE TRYING TO BRING YOU INTO COMPLIANCE. AND ALSO HELP YOU UNDERSTAND WHEN YOU DO WORK, YOU HAVE TO GET PERMITS. YOU'RE HERE TO GET SITE PLAN APPROVAL. YOU NEED SITE PLAN APPROVAL BEFORE YOU CAN GET ANYTHING FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT. AND YOU CAN SAY, WELL, WE COULDN'T HAVE APPLIED WITH SITE PLAN UNTIL WE HAD THE ZONING AND ALL. BUT THAT WAS A PROCESS THAT YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH, RIGHT? SO YOU SAY, OH, IT'S TWO AND A HALF YEARS THAT THE SUPERVISOR'S JUMPING ON THE BANDWAGON NOT CARING. I GUESS ABOUT WELL, DON'T THE HISTORY. DON'T, DON'T, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. DON'T SAY DON'T. I DON'T CARE. I DO CARE. AND I HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE MY OPINION. AND YOU HAVE A RIGHT TO HAVE YOUR OPINION. OPINION. AND, AND WE DISAGREE, PAUL, I'M JUST TELLING YOU, YOU'RE JUMPING AND SAYING, I'M, LET'S PROVE THIS. I'VE SPENT, YOU SAID YOU WANT TIME AS YOU OR MORE ON THIS. TELL ME WHEN YOU'RE DONE. YEAH. I'VE SPENT, I'VE, I'VE, I BASICALLY TELL WHEN YOU'RE, I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE'RE FORCING BUSINESSES OUT. SO WHAT WE WE'RE MAKING A VERY TOUGH TO, TO FIND BUSINESSES BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HAVE NO ONE'S FORCING THEM OUT OF BUSINESS. I DON'T WANT, YOU KNOW, I'VE HEARD FROM THE BUSINESS COUNCIL, I'VE HEARD FROM PAUSE CROSS. I'VE HEARD FROM, UH, UH, UH, THE NEW YORK, THE NEW YORK LEAGUE OF CONSERVATION VOTERS, UH, THE, THE PARKS AND RECREATION. UM, DON'T, YOU KNOW, UH, THE PARKS FOUNDATION, THE FORMER COMMISSIONER OF PARKS, I MEAN, EVERY GOOD GOVERNMENT GROUP BASICALLY SUPPORTS THIS. AND I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UH, WE SHOULD BE, DO YOU THINK THEY READ THIS? ALL I ASKED RIGHT NOW IS, DO YOU THINK THEY READ THIS? LET ME SAY SOMETHING. ALL I ASKED RIGHT NOW IS THAT WE SET A WORK SESSION MEETING OKAY. AND HAVE THE CONSULTANT THAT'S, AND, AND THE THING IS, ANY CONCERNS YOU HAVE COULD BE ADDRESSED AT THAT, AT THAT MEETING. OKAY. BUT, BUT THE THING IS, I DON'T WANNA, I DON'T WANNA DRAG IT ON AND ON AND ON. OCTOBER 30TH, THAT RIGHT? GREAT JOB. GREAT JOB. SMILE. YEAH. LOOK. YEAH. GREAT SMILE. LISTEN, IF YOU CAN APPLAUD AGAIN, HE'D REALLY SMILE EVEN MORE. I FEEL THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT TO SEE US, UM, MESSING AROUND WITH OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES THAT HAVE ZERO. WE NEED TO SET. CAN WE JUST BRING THIS BACK IN? LET'S SET THE WORK SESSION FOR AFTER, AFTER OCTOBER 30. LET'S DISCUSS. WE HAVE A BUDGET. EVERYONE, EVERYONE. SORRY FOR JUST STENOGRAPHER'S PURPOSES. WE CAN ALL GO ALL TIME. LORI'S GETTING CARPAL TUNNEL OVER THERE. WHAT IS THE FIRST WORK SESSION IN NOVEMBER THAT WE HAVE? BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S ELECTION DAY. I KNOW. I'M NOT, IT'S NOT THAT WE NEED TO, MY BELIEF IS FIRST WE HAVE TO, SO GIVE DUE DILIGENCE. WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO, FIRST WE HAVE TO TALK TO STAFF AND GO THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL. AGREED. AND THAT'S AMONG [02:35:01] US. YES. THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO. THAT'S THE FIRST THING. IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A WORK SESSION TO DO THAT, THAT WOULD BE A WORK SESSION. BUT IT'S AMONG US. MM-HMM . WITH OUR STAFF. MM-HMM . THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT A PROCESS FROM HERE. OKAY. I THINK THAT SOUNDS FAIR. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, SOMETHING, OKAY. THE, YOU HAVE NOVEMBER 4TH AND 11. WHY, WHY CAN'T WE JUST SAY FOURTH? LEMME SAY IS ELECTION DAY. WAIT, NO, WHAT? NOVEMBER 4TH IS ELECTION DAY. I JUST SAID, WHY CAN'T WE SCHEDULE A MEETING ON NOVEMBER 18TH? SO THERE'S A DATES CERTAIN, UH, THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DISCUSSING THIS. AND IF YOU WANT TO HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE STAFF AT FIVE 30, WE COULD DO THAT. AND WE COULD HAVE THIS AT SIX 30. AND THIS WAY, THIS WAY, AT LEAST THEY KNOW THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA AND IT'S NOT GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE FORGET ABOUT. SO NOVE, NOVEMBER 18TH, IT'S ALMOST, IT'S LIKE PRACTICALLY A MONTH FROM NOW. UH, UH, YOU, SO I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT THIS GO ON TO WORK SESSION NOVEMBER 18TH. I I, I WOULD BE OKAY WITH THAT. WE WOULD'VE TO ASK HOLIDAY. OKAY. ONE ITEM. COUNCILMAN SHEEHAN. OKAY. IF I COULD ADDRESS ONE ITEM. SURE. WE WERE SHUT DOWN BECAUSE THERE WAS A SEVEN INCH RAINSTORM ONE NIGHT, AND WE WERE ACCUSED OF FLOODING. THE TOWN OF GREENBURG WE'RE NOT IN THE FLOOD ZONE. WE THEN GOT A STOP WORK ORDER BECAUSE OF PILES THAT WERE OVER A HUNDRED FEET TALL. TALL AND GROWING. AND WE SHOWED YOU, WE SHOWED YOUR BUILDING INSPECTOR A HUNDRED FOOT TALL PILE NOT ONLY COVERS THE ROAD, IT COVERS BROOKFIELD. THIS HAS NOT BEEN, WE HAVE NOT BEEN PLAYING ON THE LEVEL FIELD. I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH US NOW, BUT I HAVE PASSED EVERY HOOK THESE GUYS HAVE DONE. I GOTTA, WE GOT ACCUSED THAT ASPHALT, YOUR BUILDING DEPARTMENT CITED A STUDY IN THE PUBLIC THAT ASPHALT'S CONTAMINATED. IT POLLUTES THE GROUND. I FREEDOM OF INFORMATION. THE INFORMATION. I GOT THE STUDY, THE STUDY WAS DONE IN TEHRAN, IRAN, WHERE THEY PUT COAL ASH, INCINERATOR ASH CATHODE RAY TUBES IN ASPHALT. AND THE LARGEST POLLUTANT ON THE STREET IS LEAD FROM EXHAUST. WE PHASED LEAD OUT 50 YEARS AGO. SO THIS IS NOT A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, YOU KNOW, THAT WE APPRECIATE. BUT THIS HAS NOT BEEN A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. COUNCILMAN SHEHAN AND A HUNDRED FOOT PILES. BUT THE PILES, WE'VE NEVER BEEN A HUNDRED. THEY'RE EXACTLY WHERE THEY ARE NOW. WELL, THEY OVER 30. THEY ARE FIF THEY'VE BEEN 50 FEET ON THE INCOMING PILE SINCE WE'VE BEEN THERE. AND THE, THE MAIN PILES, THE, THE PILES C THE YELLOW HAVE ALWAYS BEEN UNDER 30. DID THEY GET TO 35? YES. AND WOULD JOHN LACTO OR ROBERT DAM OR THE OTHER INSPECTOR SAY, KNOCK THE PILE AND WE KNOCK THE PILES DOWN. BUT WE ALWAYS WORK TOGETHER. WHEN THEY CAME, WHENEVER ANYONE, THE DEC COMES TO OUR SITE. HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU HAD THAT SAY, BRING THE DEC OUT TO LOOK AT THE SITE? YOUR PEOPLE WOULD NOT BRING THE DEC OUT. DEC WENT ON RECORD, SAID, I CALLED THEM. THEY SAID WE DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE SITE. I MEAN, I, I'LL, I'LL GET ANY PERMIT YOU WANT. PUT ANY STANDARD UP. THAT'S REASONABLE. AND THIS IS A SPECIAL PERMIT. THAT'S WHY I'M VERY GLAD THAT WE GOT PS AND S AND I WAS UPSET THAT I HAD TO PAY ALL THE MONEY, BUT AT THE END, THEY DID THE RIGHT THING. SO I WANNA WORK WITH YOU. I DON'T LIKE THIS. THIS IS NOT, I'M NOT A FIGHTER. I HATE THIS. BUT LET'S BE RESPECTFUL OF WHAT HAPPENED HERE. WE'RE READY TO MOVE ON. WE'RE READY TO PUT EVERYTHING BEHIND US. WE WILL BE THE BEST CORPORATE CITIZENS YOU HAVE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. THANK YOU. WELL, THAT, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO HERE, NOW THAT IT'S AT THE TOWN BOARD LEVEL, IT'S MADE IT TO THE TOWN BOARD. WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THE EARLY ONES. WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO BE INVOLVED IN THE ZONING AND PLANNING PROCESS. IT'S AGAINST OUR ETHICS CODE. BUT NOW IT'S HERE. WELL, YOU'RE BASICALLY, WHAT I'M HEARING IS, YOU KNOW, LET'S TAKE THE INFORMATION AND RUSH A DECISION. AFTER IT'S TAKEN YOU TWO AND A HALF YEARS, WE HAVE A PROCESS WHERE WE HAVE TO SPEAK TO OUR STAFF, DISCUSS THIS, DISCUSS WHATEVER YOU'VE SUBMITTED, DISCUSS IT AMONG OURSELVES, THEN WE CAN DISCUSS A FURTHER PROCESS. I THINK WE SHOULD SET ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING DATE AND WHATEVER WE DO IN BETWEEN, BUT AT LEAST IT'LL BE ON A PUBLIC HEARING. YOU CAN'T END THIS PROCESS ON A WORK SESSION. YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, NOW THAT WE'VE STARTED A PUBLIC HEARING ENDED AT A PUBLIC HEARING. 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA ADJOURN THIS AT SOME POINT. SO I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE ADJOURN THIS MAYBE UNTIL WHAT'S WHAT'S THE DATE? UM, AFTER THE WORK? UH, WHAT'S THAT? AFTER [02:40:01] THE WORK. NOW YOU'RE RECORDING AFTER THE WORK. UH, ZOOM WAS, GIMME ONE SECOND. OKAY. OKAY. SO AFTER THE WORK SESSION IT AFTER MAYBE NOVEMBER 24TH. THE 24TH. WAIT, IT'S THAT THANKSGIVING ON NOVEMBER 18TH. WORK SESSION A SECOND. WAIT, WAIT. HOLD ON. WE HAD A SECOND. SECONDED. WHO SECOND? I SECONDED. BUT CAN WE, CAN WE JUST HAVE A, IS THAT THE WORK SESSION CONVERSATION, WORK SESSION FOR STAFF ON WORK SESSION FOR THEM? NO. NO. WHY DON'T, WHY DON'T WE FIGURE OUT THE DATES? YOU'RE NOT GONNA OFFLINE DESK BEFORE. BEFORE. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING. WELL, WE NEED TO KNOW THE DATE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. YEAH. SO, SO THAT'S, WE'RE TRYING TO GET BACK FIRST. WE HAVE TO SET THE DATE 18TH AND THEN WE SET THE 24TH. I DON'T, YEAH, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO BE DIFFICULT. JUST, WE JUST WANNA GET, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT FRANCIS HAS SAID AND I AGREE WITH IT THAT I KNOW WE HAVE TO COME BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. I GET IT. AND, AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH STAFF OVER THE NEXT 30 DAYS AND WE WOULD APPRECIATE POSSIBLY A WORK SESSION WITH YOU BEFORE THE FINALS, POTENTIALLY FINAL SESSION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING. SO, WELL, THAT WOULD BE ESSENTIAL. UNDERSTOOD. SO WHETHER WHETHER YOU GIVE US THE DATES TONIGHT OR NOT IS NOT CRITICAL. WE CAN, WE CAN SPEAK TO YOURS TO, TO GARRETT AND TO JOE AND FINALIZE THE DATES. WE APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU'VE GIVEN US. I THINK WE FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A PATHWAY. I THINK YOU SHOULD JUST, I JUST WANT, I'LL GIVE YOU THE CHOICE. GO AHEAD. NOVEMBER 24TH, WHICH IS THANKSGIVING WEEK, RIGHT? IT'S MONDAY OR DECEMBER 10TH FOR A PUBLIC HEARING. FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. FOR PUBLIC HEARING. FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. MM-HMM . UM, DECEMBER 10TH FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING. DECEMBER 10TH. AND THEN, WE'LL, IT'S STILL AVAILABLE. WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO CONSIDER THE WORK SESSION ON THE 18TH. AND SO WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST THEN IS THAT WE HAVE A WORK SESSION WITH OUR STAFF. WE COULD HAVE ANOTHER WORK SESSION WITH WHOEVER YOU WANT, WANT, AS LONG AS THE TOWN ATTORNEY THINKS IT'S OKAY, THAT'S FINE. IN THE MIDST OF A PUBLIC HEARINGS AND, AND, AND, AND WE'LL DEAL WITH IT THAT WAY. THE ONLY THING, FRANCIS, YOU WAVED IT AROUND AND I HEARD ABOUT IT BEFORE YOU GOT HERE. IF THERE IS SOMETHING FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, IT WOULD BE NICE IF IT WOULD BE SHARED WITH THE APPLICANTS SOONER. WE'LL SHARE EVERYTHING SO WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. UM, THAT'D BE GREAT. WE'VE BARELY SEEN IT. IT JUST GOT, WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT. WE'LL GET IT OUT. THAT'S FINE. WE HAVEN'T SEEN IT EITHER. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE A MOTION, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE. AND THANK YOU FOR NOW BEING INVOLVED. OKAY. SO WE'RE MAKING A MOTION TO ADJOURN HEARING TO DECEMBER. DECEMBER 10TH TO DECEMBER 10TH. I'D LIKE TO MOVE A SECOND. SECOND. DO ONE IN FAVOR. AYE. AYE. LET, LET'S WAIT FOR PEOPLE TO LEAVE BEFORE WE START. PUBLIC COMMENTS. IT'S GONNA BE VERY LOUD. YES. IT'S, THEY JUST DID. YEAH. , YOU'RE GOOD TO GO. UNLESS YOU GONNA STAY. SHE GETS A TIMEOUT. SHE DOESN'T HAVE TO STAY FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. NO, WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT. IF, IF EVERYONE COULD LEAVE QUICKLY AND TALK OUTSIDE, PLEASE. WE DO HAVE OTHER ITEMS TO ATTEND TO. PLEASE, PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU GUYS GET TO GO. THANKS, BARBARA. I JUST THINK I UNDERSTAND, UNDERSTAND HOW WE MAKE DECISIONS AND DON'T GO A WHOLE, I DON'T GET IT. I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. NONE UNDERSTAND. BECAUSE HE'S RIGHT. EVERY, HE'S READ EVERYTHING. HOW WOULD HE COULD EXPLAIN IT TO ME. YEAH, HE CAN. BUT THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. GOODNIGHT. GOODNIGHT. GOODNIGHT. GOODNIGHT. THERE'S A COAT OVER HERE. SOMEBODY LEFT A COAT SHIRT. I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS. YOU, HUGH SAID HE IS COMING BACK. WHAT'S THAT? HUGH SAID HE'S COMING BACK FOR THE COAT. OH, THAT'S HIS. OH, OVER THERE. THERE'S A COAT RIGHT HERE. THERE'S A COAT HERE ON THE RIGHT. OVER ON THE RIGHT. YES. I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT COAT IS. OKAY. IS THERE NOT A COAT THERE? IT LOOKS LIKE SOMETHING'S HANGING OVER ALL IT SAYS ANNIE W THANK. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. NEW EYES OR SOMETHING. I DON'T KNOW WHO THAT IS. I DON'T KNOW THAT. MAYBE SOMEBODY'S, SOMEBODY'S BAG. SHOULD [ PUBLIC COMMENT Advanced signup is required. A continuous five-minute limit per speaker will be strictly enforced. The clock will start when a speaker begins speaking and will not be stopped for any reason until the speaker is finished, or five minutes have elapsed, whichever occurs first. Interruptions by Town Board members, the Town Clerk or the public will not be permitted. If a speaker insists on an immediate answer, should an answer be provided, it shall be part of the speaker's five-minute allocation and not be interrupted. There will not be a second five-minute round. Any written comments sent to PublicComment@GreenburghNY.com by 4 PM the day of the hearing will be forwarded to all Town Board members in advance of the meeting for their consideration. Written comments will not be read at the meeting unless the original author is present to do so.] I CALL UP THE FIRST, UH, SPEAKER, PLEASE? YES, SURE. OKAY. FIRST SPEAKER FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS IS SHERRY UJI. PLUS, IF I NEED AN EXTRA BIT, MY TABLE, SORRY, I'M HOLDING EVERYONE TO FIVE MINUTES. YOU CAN'T DO THAT, RIGHT? YOU CAN'T DO THAT. THANK YOU. GOODNIGHT. I SENT IN UNDER THE PUBLIC COMMENT, JUST A SLIDE TO, TO SHOW YOU WHAT IT'S BEING BROUGHT UP, WHAT I MEAN HERE, TERRANCE. YEP. SO I SPOKE BEFORE ABOUT ADU. UH, GOOD EVENING. I'M SHERRY EUGENE, AND I LIVE AT THREE STEVENS LANE. I'VE SPOKEN TO YOU BEFORE ABOUT THIS ISSUE. SO I WANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE KNOLLS MEGA EXPANSION ON GRASSLANDS ROAD AND THE WAY THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN HANDLED. TO RECAP FROM MY EARLIER COMMENTS ON ADUS, MY PROPERTY DIRECTLY ABUTS THE KNOLLS ON THREE SIDES TO WHERE THEY ARE ADDING [02:45:01] 75 APARTMENTS AND A ROADWAY. SO JUST TO ILLUSTRATE, THIS IS JUST A BRIEF SNIPPET OF THEIR PROPOSED PLAN. I THINK YOU'VE SEEN THIS IN REVIEWS BEFORE. THE RED CIRCLE IS WHERE THEY WANNA ADD THESE 75 APARTMENTS. THAT PROPERTY THAT CUTS OUT INTO IT, THAT'S MINE. I'M THE KEY IMPACTED A BUTTER HERE. AND WHAT'S NOT SHOWN ON THAT PLAN IS ON THE OTHER SIDE. THEY WANNA PUT A BIG RETAINING POND. SINCE JUNE OF 2023, THE TOWN AND PLANNING BOARDS HAVE MET AT LEAST SIX TIMES WITH THE KNOLLS AND BOTH WORK SESSIONS AND SITE VISITS, GIVING THEM 45 MINUTES TO AN HOUR EACH TIME TO PRESENT AND COLLABORATE ON THEIR PLANS. EACH TIME THEY BROUGHT MULTIPLE LAWYERS, CONSULTANTS, AND ARCHITECTS FROM THE VERY FIRST MEETING. THEY EXPRESSED THEIR PURPOSE IN THESE PRE-MEETINGS WAS TO SEEK A PATHWAY TO APPROVAL. IT'S CLEAR FROM THE VIDEOS OF THESE MEETINGS THAT THE KNOWLES HAS HAD UNFETTERED ACCESS TO THE BUILDING, CONSERVATION AND OTHER TOWN DEPARTMENTS. EVERY RESOURCE AT THEIR DISPOSAL TO MAKE THEIR PROJECT WORK AND COME TOGETHER. THE TOWN HAS ROLLED OUT THE RED CARPET FOR THEM. TREATMENT FAR BEYOND WHAT ANY ORDINARY RESIDENT COULD EXPECT. WHAT'S MOST TROUBLING IS THAT THIS FAVORED TREATMENT CAME DESPITE THEIR LONG HISTORY OF OVER 2222 TOWN VIOLATIONS. THEY HID BEHIND CLAIMS OF WE SERVE THE ELDERLY AND FANCY LAWYERS AND CONSULTANTS, AND THE TOWN FELL FOR IT OR SIMPLY LOOKED THE OTHER WAY. IN LATE MARCH OF THIS YEAR, WHILE STILL UNAWARE OF THESE PLANS, I NOTICED BULLDOZERS EXCAVATING DIRECTLY BEHIND MY BACKYARD. I EMAILED THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE KNOLLS. I ASKED DIRECTLY IF THEY WERE PLANNING AN ADDITION. I WAS TOLD IN WRITING THAT IT WAS JUST TESTING THAT THERE WERE NO PLANS. LESS THAN TWO WEEKS LATER, THEY SUBMITTED PLANS TO THE TOWN. THE RESULT OF TWO YEARS OF MEETING AND MILLIONS SPENT ON ARCHITECTS AND ENGINEERS. TWO WEEKS EARLIER, THEY HAD DENIED A PROJECT HAD EXISTED TO ME. I ASK, IS THIS HOW YOU EXPECT APPLICANTS TO BEHAVE? IS THIS HOW A NONPROFIT SHOULD BEHAVE? NOW THAT I'VE SEEN THE PLANS, THE SCOPE IS MASSIVE AND BEYOND REASON. ROADWAYS ON RETAINING WALLS OVER 20 BALCONIES LOOKING DIRECTLY DOWN ON MY PATIO. OF COURSE, THEY WANTED TO HIDE IT FROM ME. I FEEL LIKE I'VE BEEN LIVING IN A MOVIE, WATCHING SOMETHING OUTRAGEOUS UNFOLD IN REAL LIFE WHILE THOSE IN CHARGE DON'T SEE WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING AND JUST NODDED ALONG. JUST DAYS LATER, A NEWS FLASH APPEARED ON THE TOWN'S WEBSITE ESSENTIALLY ENDORSING THIS PROJECT. THIS BEFORE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT HAD OCCURRED, THAT SENDS A CLEAR MESSAGE TO TOWN STAFF KEEP PAVING THE WAY FOR THEM. ONE HAS TO ASK AT THIS POINT, IS THE OUTCOME PREDETERMINED? AFTER DISCOVERING THESE PLANS BY CHANCE, A FEW MONTHS AGO, I STARTED ATTENDING PLANNING BOARD MEETINGS. YET EACH TIME I HAVE NOT BEEN ALLOWED TO SPEAK. AT THE LAST MEETING, I WAS TOLD THE PLANNING BOARD WILL BE GIVING ITS RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE TOWN BOARD WITHOUT EVER HOLDING A PUBLIC HEARING. ALL I CAN DO IS WRITE LETTERS AND STAND HERE NOW IN THIS FORUM WITH A FIVE MINUTE CLOCK OVER MY HEAD. DOES THAT SOUND FAIR? THE PUBLIC PROCESS AS IT STANDS NOW, MEANS NEIGHBORS GET NOTICE IN THE MAIL JUST 10 DAYS BEFORE A PUBLIC BOARD HEARING. FOR TWO YEARS, THE K KNOWLES HAS HAD OPEN ACCESS TO BOARDS AND STAFF AND DIRECT BUTTERS GET A POSTCARD. 10 DAYS IS NOT ENOUGH TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING, LET ALONE RESPOND. THAT IS NOT MEANINGFUL PUBLIC INPUT. IT IS NOWHERE CLOSE. MEANWHILE, THE KNOLLS IS NOW SEEKING SPECIAL PERMITS, A ZONING CHANGE WITH MULTIPLE VARIANCES ON TOP LIKE WHIPPED CREAM AND A CHERRY ON A SUNDAE. AND THEY HAVE THE TOWN DISHING IT OUT FOR THEM EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. I WAS LUCKY TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS PROJECT A FEW MONTHS EARLIER THAN THE KNOWLES EVER PLANNED THAT I WOULD. BUT THIS DOESN'T FEEL LIKE A FAIR PROCESS WHEN I'M NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO SPEAK AT MEETINGS BEFORE A RECOMMENDATION IS GIVEN TO THE TOWN BOARD. I DON'T BELIEVE ANYONE ON THE TOWN BOARD OR TOWN STAFF EVER INTENDED FOR THINGS TO UNFOLD THIS WAY. BUT THIS HAS BEEN THE IMPACT OF US FOR THIS PROCESS. WE HAVE TWO KIDS IN COLLEGE, AND WE HAVE HAD TO TAKE MONEY FROM OUR SAVINGS TO HIRE LAWYERS AND CONSULTANTS FOR A PROJECT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT YEARS AGO. WE'VE LIVED HERE FOR 23 YEARS AS LAW ABIDING TAXPAYER RESIDENTS. WE DESERVE BETTER RESIDENTS HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE INFORMED AND INVOLVED FROM THE BEGINNING, PARTICULARLY WITH PROJECTS OF THIS SIZE. THE TOWN MUST DO BETTER. JUST ONE MORE MINUTE, PLEASE. I'LL TAKE IT. HE COULD READ THE REST OF IT IF YOU'D MIND, BUT, BUT I DO HAVE TO HOLD PEOPLE TO FIVE MINUTES. I HAVE TO SHOW RESPECT TO EVERYONE SO YOU CAN ANSWER THAT LETTER. OKAY. I ASK RESPECT IN THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU THAT, UH, I HAVE NOT MADE MY MIND. AND USUALLY WHAT I DO IS WHEN AN APPLICANT COMES IN, WHEN I HEAR AN APPLICATION [02:50:01] I POSTED ON THE TOWN WEBSITE. BUT YOU ENDORSED IT. NO, LET ME, LET ME, NO, LET ME SAY TELL YOU, THEY CAME AS SOON AS I HEARD OF THE APPLICATION. I BASICALLY SAID, I THOUGHT THAT I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THERE WAS GONNA BE OPPOSITION. I'M WILLING TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S WHY WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARINGS. NO DECISIONS HAVE MADE AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA GET ANY. THE FIRST TIME THEY PRESENTED, YOU PRESENTED TO THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS THAT THEY WERE PILLARS OF THE COMMUNITY, DESPITE 20 VIOLATIONS THAT MY HUSBAND AND I HAD EMAILED YOU ABOUT. WE WE WANTED TO RE YOU KNOW, THE THING IS WELEARN, WHEN WE REACH OUT TO THE COMMUNITY AND WHEN PEOPLE TELL US THAT THERE'S PROBLEMS, WE REFLECT ON IT. SO THE FACT IS, YOU'RE HIGHLIGHTING SOME CONCERNS THIS WEEK. UM, I, UH, RAISED THE ISSUE THAT, YOU KNOW, THESE TREES FALLING DOWN FROM ON HILLSIDE AVENUE. SO I ASKED, SO I KNOW THAT THE STATE NOW FINALLY, THEY HAVE CREWS THAT ARE, ARE WORKING TO ADDRESS THE VIOLATION. THAT'S THAT THE NOLLS VIOLATION, RIGHT? NO, BUT NO, I'M SAYING I'VE BEEN FOLLOWING UP ON THE KNOLL VIOLATIONS. I WANT TO GIVE YOU MY, UH, WORD THAT, UH, WE ARE GONNA LISTEN TO THE, WE'RE GONNA REFLECT ON THE COMMENTS. THERE'S NOT GONNA BILLS NOBODY GETS. YOU'VE GIVEN HIM A TWO YEAR HEAD START AND THAT DOESN'T FEEL FAIR. NO, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND OTHER NEIGHBORS AND YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA TAKE EVERY CONCERN THAT YOU HAVE VERY, VERY SERIOUSLY. I UNDERSTAND. YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, THERE'S PEOPLE I OTHER PEOPLE HAVE, UM, WRITTEN TO ME OR SPOKEN TO ME, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE TREES HAVE BEEN COMING DOWN, UH, ON THE KNOWLES. AND I COULD SHOW YOU THE EMAILS THAT I'VE SENT OUT TO OUR INSPECTORS. I'VE ASKED THEM TO FOLLOW UP AND ISSUE VIOLATIONS AS APPROPRIATE. HAVEN'T BEEN COVERING. PLEASE DON'T PORTRAY THEM AS EXEMPLARY CITIZENS. OKAY, WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF THEY'RE NOT EXEMPLARY CITIZENS, I'LL, I'LL HIGHLIGHT THAT. BUT I, I HAVE FORWARDED EVERY COMPLAINT THAT I'VE GOTTEN TO OUR INSPECTORS AND I'VE ASKED THEM TO ISSUE APPROPRIATE SUMMONSES IF THEY'RE NOT COMPLYING, COMPLYING WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE LAW. AND I'M, AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU ANYTIME YOU WANT, UM, TO, UM, REVIEW, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS. AND I'LL MEET WITH ANY NEIGHBOR AS WELL. OKAY? AND YOU HAVE MY PHONE NUMBER, RIGHT? FOUR THREE EIGHT THIRTEEN FORTY THREE. NEXT SPEAKER IS HECTOR UJI. GOOD EVENING. HONORABLE FINER ON THE TOWN BOARD. I'M HECTOR YUI, CO-OWNER OF THREE STEVENS LANE, TOWN OF GREENBURG FOLLOWING MY WIFE SHERRY. I'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR A COUPLE OF MINUTES ABOUT THE OPEN APPLICATION FOR THE BETHEL NOSES TO, AT APPROXIMATELY 75 APARTMENTS IN OUR BACKYARD, REQUIRING A HALF DOZEN ZONING VARIANCES. AS MY WIFE MENTIONED, THIS APPLICATION BEGAN OVER TWO YEARS AGO AND CONTINUED WITH NUMEROUS ADDITIONAL MEETINGS BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE TOWN'S PLANNING HISTORICAL BOARDS AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN. LEADERSHIP. ALL DONE WITHOUT ANY NOTIFICATION TO THE OWNERS AND NEIGHBORING, UH, AFFECTED PROPERTIES. THE APPLICANT WANTED TO KEEP THESE PLANS A SECRET FROM THE NEIGHBORS. I BELIEVE, UH, IT DOES SEEM CLEAR THAT THE APPLICANT WAS HOPING THAT THE NEIGHBORS LIKE US WOULD NOT FIND OUT ABOUT THIS APPLICATION UNTIL IT WAS APPROVED IN THE FINAL TWO WEEK COMMENT PERIOD, WHICH WOULD BE MUCH TOO LATE FOR ANY OF US TO MOUNT ANY TYPE OF OPPOSITION. THIS IS DEMO DEMONSTRATIVE OF HOW REALLY NOT GOOD OF A NEIGHBOR, THE BETHEL COMMUNITY, UH, BETHEL KNOWLES CURRENTLY IS, AND HOW NOT GOOD OF A NEIGHBOR THEY WOULD BE DURING AND AFTER CONSTRUCTION. IF THIS PLAN GOES THROUGH, UH, DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY'LL ADDRESS CONSTRUCTION CONCERNS? I DOUBT IT DURING THE, DURING THEIR CONSTRUCTION PROCESS, BUT I DO WANNA CONTRAST THIS AGAINST A TRUE EXAMPLE OF A GOOD NEIGHBOR. I'M NOT SURE IF YOU'RE AWARE, BUT JUST A MILE NORTH OF THE BETHEL MILLS JUST OVER THE TOWN BORDER. UH, SO IT'S A TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT, UH, BLYTHEDALE CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL FACILITY AT 95 BRADHURST AVENUE IS PLANNING TO EXPAND THEIR FACILITY BY BUILDING A TWO STORY ADDITION AND ADDING 44 RESIDENTIAL HEALTHCARE BEDS, UH, WITH ADDITIONAL PARKING AND UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE. THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD CAUSE A TWO YEAR CONSTRUCTION BURDEN TO NEIGHBORING HOMES ON LISA LANE, ARMON PLACE IN BRADHURST AVENUE. KIND OF LIKE OUR STORY, THE DIFFERENCE IS BECAUSE BLYTHEDALE ISS A GOOD NEIGHBOR, THEY ACTUALLY APPROACHED ALL THE NEIGHBORS BEFORE SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION TO THE TOWN OF MOUNT PLEASANT. YOU COULD ASK THEM, THEY SET UP THEIR FIRST MEETINGS WITH THE NEIGHBORS TWO YEARS AGO THAT THEY CAN USE THE COMMENTS FROM THE NEIGHBORS AND INCORPORATE AND ADDRESS THE NEIGHBOR'S CONCERNS INTO THEIR DESIGNS RIGHT FROM THE BEGINNING. THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF WHAT BETHEL KNOWS. DID WE KNOW THIS BECAUSE WE'RE ACQUAINTED WITH A COUPLE OF, UH, THE AFFECTED NEIGHBOR, UM, HOMEOWNERS. UH, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, OUR KIDS ALL GO TO SCHOOL TOGETHER. UM, THEY TOLD US THAT BLYTHEDALE ACTUALLY PUT LETTERS IN THE NEIGHBOR'S, NEIGHBOR'S MAILBOXES, UH, BEFORE, NOT AFTER. [02:55:01] YOU KNOW, LIKE, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED WITH BETHEL KNOWS THIS IS THE RIGHT WAY, IT'S THE NEIGHBORLY WAY. SO AS MY WIFE TOUCHED UPON, I JUST WANNA REEMPHASIZE THAT WHAT NEEDS TO BE LEARNED FROM THIS IS THAT THE TOWN BOARD PLANNING, BOARD ZONING BOARD, AND OTHER GREENBERG LEADERSHIP WHEN RECEIVING AN APPLICATION THAT MAY AFFECT, UH, OTHER GREENBURG TAXPAYERS OR THE GREENBERG NEIGHBORS HOMEOWNERS, THE BOARDS ALWAYS, ALWAYS NEED TO ASK THE IMPORTANT QUESTION OF WHAT DO THE NEIGHBORS THINK? WHAT DO THE NEIGHBORS HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS? DID YOU ASK OR PRESENT ANY OF WHAT YOU'RE APPLYING TO THE NEIGHBORS? UH, YOU KNOW, UNFORTUNATELY THIS QUESTION WAS NEVER UTTERED. WE WATCHED ALL THE BOARD MEETINGS THAT WE MISSED FROM 2023 UNTIL WE LEARNED ABOUT THIS WHEN, UH, JULY 25. THANKFULLY, THEY ALL ARE ALL ON THE TOWN WEBSITE. AND WE WATCHED, AND FOR TWO YEARS, THOSE QUESTIONS WERE NEVER REALLY UTTERED TO BETHEL KNOWLES AS THEY PRESENTED THEIR PLANS TO THE VARIOUS GREENBURG BOARDS AS THEY PROCEEDED THROUGH THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS TO PUT A FOUR STORY BUILDING IN OUR BACKYARD, YOU KNOW, WITH RETAINING WALLS AND ROADWAYS AND STORMWATER DETENTION PONDS MY WIFE MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, IN, IN, IN A NEIGHBOR'S BACKYARD. SO, AGAIN, I THINK THAT NEEDS TO CHANGE. I THINK WE NEED TO LEARN ABOUT THIS. GREENBERG NEEDS TO PROTECT HER NEIGHBORS. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. NO, I, I AGREE WITH YOU A THOUSAND PERCENT. AND I THINK THAT CHECK THAT RAP TOO. I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, IF THE EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT, UH, I, YOU KNOW, I I BASICALLY NEVER HADN'T HEARD ANY COMPLAINTS THAN IT WAS A MISTAKE. SO THE THING IS, I'M GONNA BE MORE CAREFUL, BUT I BASICALLY IN THE, YOU KNOW, I, I GENERALLY, UH, THE MINUTE I HEAR AN APPLICATION, I, I TRY SHARING IT WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE COMMUNITY. AND, AND THE THING IS, I, UH, IF YOU WANT, UH, YOU COULD LOOK AT ALL THE EMAILS I'VE SENT OUT BECAUSE I'VE GOTTEN OTHER COMPLAINTS. I'LL SHARE EVERY SINGLE CORRESPONDENCE I'VE HAD. YOU COULD SEE THAT I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I I BASICALLY HAVE BEEN ASKING ON MY OWN WITHOUT EVEN COMPLAINTS, UH, FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, FOR THE INSPECTORS TO FOLLOW UP ON THE, UM, YOU KNOW, ON, UM, ON POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS. JUST, JUST A WEEK. YEAH. THE, THE SQUATTERS. YEAH. JUST THIS WEEK, I, I FOLLOWED IT UP AND, YOU KNOW, I, I WROTE A LETTER, YOU KNOW, UNPROVOKED BY ANY CITIZEN. I SAID, I JUST WANNA GET A STATUS. AND THEY SAID, OH, BY THE WAY, THERE'S A, UM, A VEHICLE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE STATE. THEY SAID, WE'RE NOT SURE WHAT THEY'RE STARTING TO WORK ON. UH, THEY'RE STARTING TO WORK THIS WEEK. YOU KNOW, I'M REMOVING SOME OF THE VI THE VIOLATIONS, BUT I'M HAPPY TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND WE WILL MEET WITH YOU AND NO DECISIONS HAVE MADE AND THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY SECRET DEALS. DEFINITELY. AND, YOU KNOW, WE WILL REFLECT ON WHAT THE COMMUNITY IS CONCERNED ABOUT. AND I'M ALSO WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND OTHER NEIGHBORS AND MAYBE EVEN REPRESENTATIVES OF THE K KNOWLES AND YOU COULD HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS, BECAUSE I'VE DONE THAT, UM, IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE THE PROCESS BECAUSE I, I BASICALLY BELIEVE THAT CITIZENS SHOULD BE MORE INVOLVED. AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF GIVE AND TAKE. SO THAT'S, YEAH, WE JUST ASK, ALWAYS ASK THOSE QUESTIONS. EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING YOU AND YOU WIFE SAID IS SHE DISCOVERED IT BY ACCIDENT. AGREE. BY LOOKING UP THE DU STUFF. I AGREE. HUNDRED PERCENT. I WASN'T LOOKING AT AD I STILL WAITING SOMETHING IN MY NO, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? I I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU LEARN FROM IT. NOBODY'S PERFECT. AND WE LEARN FROM MISTAKES. SO YOU'RE, YOU'RE, I'M REALLY THRILLED THAT YOU SPOKE HERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE LATE EVENING. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. NEXT SPEAKER IS HUG SCHWARTZ. PROMISE TO BE BRIEF. I KNOW IT'S LATE GUYS, THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, I, I'D LIKE TO THANK THE TOWN FOR AGREEING TO HOST THE NO KINGS EVENT ON SATURDAY. UM, IT WAS A NO, KINGS IS A, IS A VERY IMPORTANT, UH, DAY FOR THIS COUNTRY. UM, I THINK DEMOCRACY, UH, IS REALLY AT RISK AND FOR PEOPLE TO COME OUT IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. IT WAS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY FOR OUR COMMUNITY TO COME TOGETHER AND SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR DEMOCRACY. SO IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. I ASSUME IT WAS THE TOWN BOARD THAT AGREED TO ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN. AND IF IT WAS, THANK YOU ALL FOR THAT. I APPRECIATE IT. I ALSO WANT TO THANK PAUL, JEWEL WILLIAMS, JOHNSON AND DAVID AND MEMORIAL FOR HAVING THE CARE TO COME OUT AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN ELECTED OFFICIALS, PARTICULARLY AT THIS TIME, COME OUT AND, AND SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY. UNFORTUNATELY, THERE WERE SEVERAL OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS WHO ARE CONSPICUOUSLY ABSENT. THE LIST INCLUDES LISA MARIE NE NIRO TOWN CLERK, ASSEMBLY PERSON, MARY JANE CHIMPSKY, TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER ELLEN HENDRICKS, TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER JOY HABER, TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER REGINA JACKSON AND TOWN COUNCIL MEMBER FRANCIS SHEEN, IF WELL OVER A HUNDRED SENIOR CITIZENS. SOME HAD CANES, SOME ACTUALLY HAD WALKERS ALONG WITH SEVERAL [03:00:01] OTHER RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY CAN COME OUT ON A CHILLY SUNDAY, SATURDAY MORNING TO SUPPORT THIS VERY IMPORTANT EVENT. SURE, LEAST SOME OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS COULD HAVE MADE THE SAME EFFORT. IT WAS VERY DISAPPOINTING. I REALLY WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING YOU ALL THERE AND SPEAKING, UM, IN MY VIEW, THAT LACK OF ATTENDANCE REFLECTS VERY POORLY ON THE COMMITMENT TO DEMOCRACY AND SUPPORT PORT OF OUR COMMUNITY. DON'T TELL ME IT DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT. 'CAUSE EVERYBODY, IT WAS ON THE MAP ON A SEPARATED, ON A SEPARATE TOPIC. I SEE THAT TONIGHT THE TOWN BOARD IS AGAIN, VOTING ON AN ADDITIONAL A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR OUTSIDE LEGAL EXPENSES FOR THE EDGEMONT CORPORATION CASE. THIS BRINGS A TOTAL SPEND ON, ON THOSE TWO CASES TO OVER $500,000. AND THEY'RE NOT ANYWHERE CLOSE TO BEING DONE BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAD A DECISION EVEN IN THE LOWER COURT. NEVER MIND AN APPEAL. HOW CAN THE THIS BOARD CONTINUE TO AUTHORIZE ADDITIONAL FUNDS WITHOUT HAVING A FULL ACCOUNTING OF HOW THAT MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT TO DATE OR THE PROJECTED BUDGET FOR THESE CASES. I'VE BEEN AN OUTSPOKEN OPPONENT OF THE EDGEMONT CORPORATION FOR YEARS, BUT WHEN THE SPENDING IS OVER DOUBLE FROM THE LAST TIME, AND THAT WAS COMPLETE THROUGH APPEAL, BY THE WAY, I SERIOUSLY QUESTION HOW THESE CASES ARE BEING MANAGED. AND I ALSO AM VERY CONCERNED FOR THE FUTURE OF HOW IN YOUR BUDGET IS IT GONNA BE ALIGNED THIS YEAR FOR OUTSIDE COUNSEL? AND HOW ARE YOU GONNA FIGURE THAT OUT WHEN YOU HAVEN'T ACTUALLY LOOKED AT HOW YOU SPENT THE MONEY THIS YEAR, WHICH IS NOW WAY OVER A MILLION DOLLARS. ONE FINAL THING I'D LIKE TO SAY TONIGHT, UM, IS ABOUT, UH, SOMETHING THAT YOU, A RESOLUTION YOU HAVE ON HERE TO, UH, RE UH, RECONFIGURE THE, THE PLANNING BOARD. UM, I AM TOTALLY AGAINST THE IDEA OF GOING TO FIVE PEOPLE. UM, WE NEVER HAD THAT PROBLEM IN THE 20 YEARS I WAS ON THE BOARD. WE GENERALLY HAD SIX OR SEVEN PEOPLE. I THINK WE MISSED A QUORUM ONCE, MAYBE TWICE WHEN THE WEATHER WAS BAD. AND THAT WAS IT. THAT'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE TREATING A SYMPTOM RATHER THAN THE DISEASE, WHICH IS BECAUSE OF THE DISRESPECT OF, OF A LOT OF THE VOLUNTEERS HERE THAT, UH, THEY DON'T WANNA BE ON THE BOARD. THAT'S WHAT NEEDS TO BE FIXED, NOT REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE BOARD AND THE IMPACT OF THE BOARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND HAVE A GOOD EVENING. I'M NOT GONNA RESPOND, I'M JUST GONNA MAKE ONE COMMENT ABOUT THE NO KINGS EVENT. UM, I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR MYSELF. I HAD ALREADY MADE PLANS TO GO TO ANOTHER ALL KINGS EVENT, NO KINGS EVENT, UH, WAY BEFORE THE SUPERVISOR DECIDED TO ORGANIZE SOMETHING. IT DOES MATTER HERE AND THAT DOES MATTER. AND IT WAS AT THE SAME TIME. AND, AND THIS WAS NOT A A GROUP DECISION, THIS WAS A DECISION THAT THE SUPERVISOR MADE BY HIMSELF. HE DID NOT CONSULT WITH THE TOWN BOARD ON IT. RIGHT. ON WHAT? ON THE TIMING. ON THE TIMING. SO, AND I KNOW THAT ELLEN HENDRICKS WENT TO THREE DIFFERENT, THREE KINGS OF IT. NO KINGS OF IT. NOT, NOT WHEREVER SHE WENT. I'M SORRY, STILL GREENBURG. WE WERE STILL IN GREENBURG. YEAH, STILL STILL IN GREEN. AND I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT ABOUT LEGAL BILLINGS. THIS EDGEMONT PETITION AND SUBSEQUENT COURT CASES ARE NOT LIKE THE OTHER TWO TIMES. THIS IS ACTUALLY TWO DIFFERENT CASES BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE A LAWSUIT AGAINST THE STATE WHO INAPPROPRIATELY USED, UM, WHAT I WOULD CALL A BACKDOOR DEAL TO CHANGE THE EDGE MO UH, EXCUSE ME, THE INCORPORATION LAW. LAW. SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGHT THAT AS WELL. UM, AND FORTUNATELY WE DID RECEIVE A NEGATIVE DECISION IN THAT AND WE'RE APPEALING IT. IT'S COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATE IN MY OPINION. UM, AND I DO REVIEW ALL THE LEGAL BILLS WHEN THEY COME IN. OF COURSE, I WOULD NEVER SIGN OFF ON THEM WITHOUT DOING SO. UM, USUALLY THERE ARE NOT, NOT CORRECTIONS. SOMETIMES CORRECTIONS DO HAVE TO BE MADE FOR, UM, EITHER AN INCORRECT, UH, INPUT OR A DOUBLE INPUT OR JUST A QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WAS DONE AT THIS TIME. SO, UM, AGREE WITH YOU. WE, WE SHOULD BE REVIEWING EVERY SINGLE BILL, WHETHER IT'S FOR INCORPORATION OR FOR ANY OTHER CASE, AND MAKING SURE THAT OUR COUNSEL CONTINUES TO DO GOOD WORK FOR US. AND, AND IF NOT, FIND NEW COUNSEL. SO I CAN ASSURE YOU I SPEND A LOT OF TIME DOING THAT AND I'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO. UH, NEXT SPEAKER IS DYLAN PINE. OKAY, NEXT SPEAKER. MICHELLE SPINOLA. SORRY, I'VE BEEN HERE ALL NIGHT. I DIDN'T THINK THAT , THIS WAS GONNA BE SO LONG, BUT, UM, JUST FRANKLY, I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT. UM, I'M HERE JUST TO ADDRESS A COUPLE OF THINGS. UM, BUT I'M REALLY FEELING LIKE YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY. YOU'RE NOT CARING ABOUT BUSINESSES, YOU'RE NOT CARING ABOUT PEOPLE, [03:05:01] UM, YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE PROJECTS BEHIND THEIR HOUSE. SO I'M REALLY HOPING THAT YOU LISTEN AND YOU TAKE THAT INTO ACCOUNT. UM, BUT WHAT I REALLY COME HERE TO TALK ABOUT IS WE LOVE TO TALK ABOUT DEMOCRACY, BUT I THINK YOU'RE HYPOCRITICAL TO GO TO A NO KINGS RALLY. UM, PAUL, YOU ARE A LIFELONG POLITICIAN. YOU'VE BEEN IN OFFICE FOR 33 YEARS. YOU RARELY RUN WITH AN OPPONENT. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS. I, I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE ARE NO INDEPENDENTS, OTHER DEMOCRATS, OTHER REPUBLICANS THAT DON'T RUN FOR SEATS, AND WHY PEOPLE ON THIS TOWN COUNCIL HOLD SEATS FOR SO LONG. YOU, MR. SHEHAN ALSO 19 YEARS. I THINK THAT WE NEED SOME CHANGE IN GREENBURG. I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS THAT IT'S INEFFICIENT. I, I, I AM SHOCKED TO HEAR THAT A BUSINESS IS WAITING TWO YEARS FOR A SITE PLAN. I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT IS. UH, I'M A TAXPAYER AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT MY TAXES. THAT'S ANOTHER REASON I'M HERE. I HAVE ELDERLY NEIGHBORS THAT CANNOT AFFORD THEIR HOMES ANYMORE. IT'S VERY CONCERNING. AND I THINK YOU NEED TO START TO ADDRESS THESE PROBLEMS. UM, THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY. OKAY. AND I HAVE ALSO, IN THE SEPTEMBER WORK SESSION, YOU DISCUSS $91,000 THAT YOU'VE PAID TO OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL TO REPRESENT SOME TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS IN AN ETHICS MATTER. I THINK WE NEED A DEEPER EXPLANATION OF THAT AND WHY YOU CONTINUE TO PAY THESE BILLS. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF TAXPAYER WASTE, I THINK. AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHY A LAWYER WAS HIRED, OKAY. TO DEFEND PEOPLE IN AN ETHICS MATTER WHEN ALL THE ETHICS BOARD DOES, AND YOU SAID THIS YOURSELF, WAS RETURN IT BACK TO THE TOWN. SO THERE'S, THERE'S NO ACCOUNTABILITY AT ALL. THERE'S NO THIRD PARTY LOOKING AT THIS. UM, SO I, FOR ONE WOULD LIKE A LITTLE MORE EXPLANATION ON THAT. I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE PAYING AT THAT THESE LEGAL BILLS ANYMORE. UM, MR. SCHWARTZ JUST BROUGHT UP, I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THESE LEGAL BILLS IN EDGEMONT. UH, IT'S JUST THAT COSTS ARE BALLOONING. WE HAVE AN AFFORDABILITY CRISIS. WE HAVE, UH, A HOUSING CRISIS, AS WE'VE HEARD WITH THE ADUS. UM, AND I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE LADIES' COMMENTS BEFORE ABOUT HOW AN A DU CAN SKYROCKET THE VALUE OF A HOME. AND THEN WHEN YOU GET REASSESSED, AND AS WE KNOW, WE GET REASSESSED EVERY YEAR, THAT INCREASES YOUR HOME VALUE AND INCREASES YOUR TAXES. IT IS UNAFFORDABLE HERE. WE NEED TO START ADDRESSING THESE CONCERNS. SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. UM, I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO SPEAK OUT. I'M GONNA CONTINUE TO EDUCATE MYSELF. UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK MORE QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO BE MORE INVOLVED. UM, THANK YOU. AND I WOULD LIKE MORE OF AN EXPLANATION ON WHY WE ARE PAYING THESE OUTSIDE LEGAL TOWNS. YOU YEAH, I JUST WANNA MENTION WITH EDGEMONT INCORPORATION. YEAH. UM, IF WE LOSE THAT CASE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IN OUR CASE, THE TOWN COULD LOSE OVER $18 MILLION A YEAR, WHICH WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO THE TOWN. IT WOULD MEAN WE WOULD HAVE 70 OR MORE LAYOFFS. UM, IT WOULD MEAN SIGNIFICANT, UH, SERVICE CUTS. SO I FEEL THAT THE TOWN, AND I THINK THE OTHER MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD FEEL THE SAME WAY. THAT THE TOWN HAS TO DO EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO KEEP THE TOWN TOGETHER. BECAUSE IF WE DON'T GIVE IT EVERYTHING WE HAVE, UM, AND WE LOSE, UH, IT IS GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, A A LOT OF TR A LOT OF TROUBLE. SO IF WE HAD, IF WE HAD JUST SAID, OKAY, YOU COULD HAVE THE REFERENDUM AND, AND, YOU KNOW, DIDN'T CHALLENGE IT, UM, AND, UM, AND THEY, THAT'S NICE AND EDGE AND EDGEMONT INCORPORATED, THE TOWN WOULD'VE HAD MAJOR, MAJOR FINANCIAL PROBLEMS. I, I UNDERSTAND. UM, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, WHAT ABOUT THE MR TOMI BILLS? WHAT, WHAT IS THAT? THAT I I THINK IT'S A DISGRACE BECAUSE I THINK THAT, I THINK IT'S A TOTAL WASTE OF MONEY. WILL YOU STOP PAYING THEM? WILL YOU COMMIT TO STOP PAYING? I'VE SAID, I'VE, I'VE SPOKEN OUT, UH, CONSTANTLY AND I'VE SAID THIS IS A BIG WASTE OF MONEY BECAUSE THE ETHICS BOARD DOESN'T HAVE ANY TOWER. AND BASICALLY WE, WE WASTED OVER A HUNDRED, ABOUT A HUNDRED OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS. AND THE, THE DOLLARS KEEP GOING UP WHEN ALL THE ETHICS BOARD COULD DO IS MAKE A RECOMMENDATION. AND IF THEY COULD MAKE A, IF THEY CAN'T SANCTION, THEY CAN'T, UH, PUNISH ANYBODY. THEY CAN'T, FINE, THEY CAN'T PUT ANYBODY IN JAIL. THEY CAN'T MAKE YOU, UH, UH, RESIGN. THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING. SO WHY ARE WE SPENDING MONEY? SO WHY DID YOU TAKE DEFENSE FOR YOUR ETHICS? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? I, I, NO, NO. I, I BASICALLY FEEL THIS IS A TOTAL RIP OFF OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS. IT'S DOUBLE STANDARD. PAUL, YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT? WHEN IT'S FOR US, IT WRONG, I NEVER, I DON'T BELIEVE IN HAVING OUTSIDE LEGAL ATTORNEYS, BUT [03:10:01] YOU HAVE OUTSIDE COUNSEL. YOU KNOW WHAT, THERE WAS SOMEBODY WHO MADE, BUT YOU CAN BRUSH IT OFF, LEMME SAY, BUT BE IT WAS A TOWN ATTORNEY AND IT WASN'T BE TRANSPARENT THAT YOU TELL US TO BE RIGHT. SAY, BE TRUTHFUL AND TRANSPARENT. YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU HAD, YOU HAD, DID YOU NOT HAVE COUNSEL, OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO REPRESENT YOU IN AN ETHICS CASE? DID YOU LEMME SAY SOMETHING? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. PLEASE, YES OR NO. I HAVE NO OUTSIDE PAID LAWYER. OKAY. NO, I, I DID NOT HIRE AN OUTSIDE PAID LAWYER. I AM ASKING, I YOU TOOK SOME ATTORNEY SHOWS UP AT A MEETING. THAT'S, THAT'S DIFFERENT. OKAY. AND IT WASN'T AGAINST, IT WASN'T BASICALLY, OKAY, PAUL, I MEAN, THIS IS, THIS IS RIDICULOUS. SO JUST IN SUMMARY, I'M ASKING THAT, PLEASE, YOU SUPPORT, YOU LISTEN TO THE TAXPAYERS. WE NEED TO START TO ADDRESS WASTEFUL SPENDING BECAUSE OUR TAXES ARE TOO HIGH. IF THE ELECTION IN THE CITY DOESN'T GO ACCORDING TO THE WAY SOME PEOPLE WANT IT TO GO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FLOOD OF PEOPLE TRYING TO COME UP HERE FROM NEW YORK CITY. AGAIN, DRIVING UP OUR HOME PRICES, WHICH COULD DRIVE UP OUR TAXES. IT'S NOT FAIR. AND WE NEED TO ADJUST FOR THAT AND MAKE SURE THAT OLDER PEOPLE CAN STAY IN THEIR HOMES. UH, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WITHOUT KIDS IN THE SCHOOL CAN STAY IN THEIR HOMES. VERY IMPORTANT. 10 SECONDS. 10 SECONDS. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. WHO'S NEXT? UH, NEXT SPEAKER. DYLAN PINE. ALRIGHT. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. UH, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. GOOD MORNING. UM, I, UH, I AM DYLAN PINE AND I'M SPEAKING THIS EVENING AS PRESIDENT OF THE EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL. UH, THOUGH I'M NO STRANGER TO THESE MEETINGS, HAVING ATTENDED NEARLY EVERY TOWN BOARD MEETING SINCE BEING ELECTED AS PRESIDENT OF THE ECC NEARLY THREE AND A HALF YEARS AGO, FOR THOSE UNFAMILIAR WITH THE ECC, WE ARE THE LEADING ADVOCACY AND CIVIC ENGAGEMENT ORGANIZATION IN THE EDGEMONT NEIGHBORHOOD. IN THE UNINCORPORATED PORTION OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, FOUNDED IN 1947. THE ECC REPRESENTS THE INTEREST OF ALL EDGEMONT RESIDENTS AND MAINTAINS RELATIONSHIPS WITH OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS AT THE TOWN, COUNTY, STATE, AND FEDERAL LEVELS TO ADVOCATE ON ISSUES IMPACTING EDGEMONT. UH, TWO WEEKS AGO, THE TOWN BOARD RECEIVED A PRESENTATION FROM EDGEMONT SIXTH GRADER, SAHAN SUAN, ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF IMPROVING THE CRUMBLING GOAT PATH ON THE WEST SIDE OF MOUNT JOY AVENUE OFF CENTRAL PARK AVENUE. WHILE I COMMEND SA HANA'S ADVOCACY ON TROUBLED BY THE REACTION OF THE SUPERVISOR TO THIS PRESENTATION, AS IF THIS WAS NEW INFORMATION, UH, AND THE SUGGESTION THAT SOSHANNA MENTIONED OF IT WAS THE FIRST TIME HE HAD LEARNED OF THIS NEED, DESPITE THE SUPERVISOR'S NEWFOUND URGENCY TO SUPPORT A SIDEWALK ON MOUNT JO AVENUE. THE OCTOBER, 2023 EDGEMONT COMMUNITY COUNCIL TRAFFIC SAFETY REPORT, WHICH I'VE SPOKEN ABOUT FROM THIS PODIUM IN THE PAST, IDENTIFIED A MOUNT JOY SIDE SIDEWALK AS A TOP COMMUNITY PRIORITY. THE REPORT READ, THERE ARE EFFICIENCIES TO ALSO INCLUDE MOUNT JOY AVENUE BETWEEN CENTRAL PARK AVENUE AND OLD ARMY ROAD. WITHIN THE STUDIES AND ANALYSIS OF OLD ARMY ROAD, AS WELL AS MOUNT JOY AVENUE. WITHIN THE STUDIES AND ANALYSIS OF FORT HILL ROAD, UH, SIDEWALKS ON OLD ARMY ROAD AND FORT HILL ROAD WOULD BOTH BE ENHANCED BY A SIDEWALK CONNECTING THE TWO ALONG MOUNT JO AVENUE AND WOULD UNLOCK WALKABILITY AND BIKEABILITY TO EDGEMONT HIGH SCHOOL FOR A SIGNIFICANT POPULATION OF RESIDENTS WEST OF CENTRAL PARK AVENUE. IN RESPONSE TO THE ECCS ADVOCACY IN OCTOBER, 2022, THE TOWN IMPLEMENTED ONE-WAY TRAFFIC PATTERNS ON ROBIN HILL ROAD AND MOUNT JOY AVENUE, AS WELL AS, UH, UH, AS WELL AS AN AUGUST, 2022, THE INSTALLATION OF A SIDEWALK ON ROBIN HILL ROAD BETWEEN MOUNT JOY AVENUE AND HENRY STREET MADE POSSIBLE ON AN OTHERWISE NARROW ROAD BY THE NEW ONE-WAY TRAFFIC PATTERN. THE FEASIBILITY OF A SIDEWALK ON NARROW MOUNT JOY IS NOW GREATER DUE TO THE ONE-WAY TRAFFIC PATTERN AND REMAINS A SIDEWALK PRIORITY AFTER OR IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE SIDEWALKS ON FORT HILL ROAD AND OLD ARMY ROAD. TO REITERATE THE PRIORITIES IDENTIFIED IN OCTOBER, 2023 REPORT, UH, THE ECC PRIORITY SIDEWALKS REMAIN OLD ARMY ROAD, WHICH SHOULD BEGIN NEXT YEAR THROUGH THE NEW YORK STATE TAP GRANT FORT HILL ROAD FROM LONGVIEW TO ARDSLEY FORT HILL ROAD FROM LONGVIEW TO UNDERHILL MOUNT JOY FROM OLD ARMY TO FORT HILL ARLEY ROAD FROM OLD ARMY TO SEALY PLACE. I UNDERSTAND THE TOWN HAS NOW RECEIVED THE TOPOGRAPHIC AND BOUNDARY SURVEYS APPROVED AS CD TWO AT THE MAY 20, 20, 20 SECOND MEETING LAST YEAR, AND COMMISSIONED IN PREPARATION FOR FUTURE SIDEWALKS AND TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS, WHICH AT THE ADVOCACY OF THE ECC INCLUDED SERVING, UH, STUDYING SURVEYS ON BOTH MOUNT JOY AVENUE OLD ARMY TO FORT HILL AND FORT HILL FROM UNDERHILL TO LONGVIEW. UH, SURVEY WORK FOR FORT HILL FROM LONGVIEW TO LEY ROAD IS ALSO ALREADY IN POSSESSION OF THE TOWN, DESPITE COMMITMENTS AND OVERTURES BY THE SUPERVISOR, THERE'S CURRENTLY NO MONEY ALLOCATED FOR EDGEMONT SIDEWALKS FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE 2026 DRAFT SUPERVISORS CAPITAL BUDGET POSTED ON THE TOWN WEBSITE RIGHT NOW, WITH THE SURVEY WORK NOW COMPLETE, I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE SIDEWALK PRIORITIES MEANINGFULLY MOVE FORWARD AND BE INCLUDED IN THE TOWN'S FINAL, UH, CAPITAL BUDGET. WITH THE SAME ENTHUSIASM AND COMMITMENT SUPERVISOR [03:15:01] FINER DEMONSTRATED TWO WEEKS AGO. THE ECC REMAINS EAGER AND READY TO CONTINUE PARTNERING WITH THE TOWN TO MOVE THESE VITAL PEDESTRIAN SAFETY INITIATIVES FORWARD. IN THE INTEREST OF THE CHILDREN OF OUR COMMUNITY, ANYTHING LESS WILL REPRESENT A BREACH OF TRUST WITH THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. SO LET ME JUST RESPOND VERY BRIEFLY. FIRST OF ALL, WHEN I, WHEN A STUDENT IS INVOLVED AND IS INTERESTED, I, I, I REALLY WANT TO ENCOURAGE AS MANY STUDENTS TO STAY INVOLVED IN, IN POLITICS AND TO GET INVOLVED AND TO FEEL THAT THEY'RE MAKING A DIFFERENCE. SO IF A STUDENT IS DOING A PETITION AND WANTS TO SPEAK, I SORT OF FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, IF SHE FEELS THAT SHE'S HAVING AN IMPACT AND THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO HER, I FEEL THAT IT'S GONNA, UM, ENCOURAGE HER TO POSSIBLY STAY INVOLVED IN PUBLIC SERVICE ACTIVITIES. I JUST GOT A, AN EMAIL ABOUT A WEEK AGO. THERE WAS A SECOND GRADER WHO SPOKE AT A TOWN BOARD MEETING EIGHT YEARS AGO. AND, UM, YOU'VE TOLD US THE STORY. WELL, I COULD, I COULD SAY WHATEVER I WANT. SO BASICALLY NO STOP PROMISED SIDEWALKS THEN. NO, I'M SAYING YOU THE, SO SHE, SHE STAY NOW SHE'S INVOLVED BECAUSE BASICALLY SHE HAD A GOOD, GOOD IMPRESSION. SO I'M NOT SAYING YOU'RE NOT INVOLVED OR THE EC HASN'T GOTTEN INVOLVED, I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANT TO, UM, ENCOURAGE STUDENTS BY INVITING THEM TO TOWN BOARD MEETINGS TO SPEAK OUT AND EXPRESS. HE'S ASKING ABOUT SIDEWALK, BUT THAT'S OKAY. LET ME JUST, SO, SO WHERE'S, WHERE'S THE MONEY IN THE BUDGET? LET ME JUST SAY, UM, IN TERMS OF THE SIDEWALKS, I'VE SPOKEN TO RICH FA, I SPOKE TO, UM, OUR, UM, UH, VINNY FEDERICI. I'VE SPOKEN TO OUR WHOLE TOWN STAFF. WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE SIDEWALKS. SOMETIMES SIDEWALKS TAKE MORE THAN A YEAR, UH, IN TERMS OF PLANNING TO ACTUALLY IMPLEMENT. SO, SO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IS YOU HAVE TO DESIGN THE SIDEWALK, AND THEN THE FUNDING COMES AFTER, AFTER THE DESIGN. SO WE'RE COMMITTED TO THE SIDEWALK. NEXT YEAR, WE'RE GONNA DO, THIS YEAR WE'RE DOING A SIDEWALK IN DOBS FERRY ROAD. WE'VE BEEN PLANNING IT FOR PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE YEARS ALREADY. BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S HAPPENING. NEXT YEAR WE'RE GONNA DO THE SIDEWALK ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE. UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN PLANNING THAT FOR OVER FIVE YEARS. UH, WE'RE GONNA BE DOING THE SIDEWALK ON TAXTER AND MOUNTAIN ROAD. WE'VE BEEN PLANNING THAT FOR, FOR AT LEAST FOUR, YOU KNOW, THREE, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS. BUT THE THING IS, YOU KNOW, WE, YOU KNOW, WE MEET WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE HAVE OUR PEOPLE DESIGNING IT. UH, WE REACH OUT TO THE UTILITIES BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE, THE CON ED, YOU KNOW, WORKS WITH US IN REMOVING POLES. WE HAVE TO GET RID OF HYDRANTS. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK GOING ON. SO WHEN I SAY THAT WE'RE COMMITTED TO, UH, OLD ARMY ROAD, WHICH YOU KNOW, IS GONNA HAPPEN, WE ARE COMMITTED TO, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, FORT, UH, MOUNT JOY, I'VE TOLD YOU THAT. UM, I FEEL THAT FORT HILL, IF WE COULD MAKE THAT HAPPEN, WOULD BE A GAME CHANGER LIKE WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE. IT WOULD OPEN UP LOTS OF POSSIBILITIES FROM LONGVIEW TO, UH, UM, UH, TO UNDERHILL. SO I'M, UH, THAT TO ME IS A TOTAL, YOU KNOW, COMMITMENT. AND I ALSO WANT TO HAVE THE SIDEWALK OF ON, UM, ARDSLEY ROAD FROM, UH, YOU KNOW, CENTRAL AVENUE, UH, TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE MIDWAY IS, BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT'S VERY HILLY AND IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR AN ELDERLY PERSON OR A DISABLED PERSON TO WALK. SO I WANNA FLATTEN THAT UP. SO THOSE ARE MY PERSONAL COMMITMENTS. THE PIPELINE ROAD, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND, AND ARE THOSE MONIES IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET TO FACILITATE? THERE'LL MONEY, THERE'LL BE MONEY IT WILL GET DONE. WHAT LINE, WHAT LINE WILL IT BE IN? WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA GET DONE BECAUSE I HAVE TO SPEAK TO RICH, FIND OUT THE SCHEDULE IN TERMS OF THE BUDGET'S ALREADY POSTED. SO, NO, BUT THE, BECAUSE THIS, RIGHT NOW, THERE'S WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO. SO SOMETIMES I LOVE, WE MAY NOT HA, WE MAY NOT BE IN A POSITION OF ACTUALLY STARTING TO BUILD UNTIL 2027. SURE. BUT IF IT'S, YOU NEED MONEY TO DESIGN AND USE MONEY, RIGHT? NO, THE MONEY FOR THE, THE DESIGN WORK IS GONNA BE, IS IN, THAT'S GONNA BE COMMITTED. THE, I'M COMMITTED TO DOING ALL THE WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE, UH, TO PREPARE FOR THE SIDEWALK, BUT I'M ALSO COMMITTED, UM, TO APPROPRIATING FUNDS FOR THESE SIDEWALKS TO ACTUALLY HAPPEN. YOU KNOW, WE BUILT 12 MILES OF SIDEWALKS IN THE TOWN IN THE PS SINCE 2018. SO THIS IS NOT, YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT, PEOPLE ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO WALK FROM THE HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION, UH, TO THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE, UM, AND THEN, UH, ON WEST HARTSDALE AVENUE AND ON DUFFS FERRY ROAD. SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GO FROM HARTSDALE TRAIN STATION TO TOWN HALL WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT WALKING ON STREETS AND JUST GO ON DPPS FERRY ROAD NOW, AND YOU'LL SEE THE CREWS WORKING. I, I THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT EDGEMONT MONROE. NO, BUT I'M, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE EDGEMONT ROAD. IT'S ALL GONNA HAPPEN AND WE'RE ALL COMMITTED TO IT. SO HE IS ASKING WHAT LION IS THE YEAH, IT WILL BE, I HAVEN'T SUBMITTED MY, UH, BUDGET YET. SO THE THING IS, THE CAPITAL BUDGET HAS NOT BEEN PROPOSED OFFICIALLY. WHY, WHY IS IT ON THE WEBSITE? NO, YOU KNOW WHAT? SHE BASICALLY, [03:20:01] THIS IS A, A DRAFT, IT'S NOT A PROPOSAL. I HAVE NOT SUBMITTED ANYTHING TO THE TOWN BOARD. AND BY LAW, I BASICALLY SUBMIT, UH, A BUDGET AND I SUBMIT A CAPITAL BUDGET. SO BASIC, SO RIGHT NOW, NOTHING HAS BEEN SUBMITTED FROM ME BECAUSE I, I'M STILL, UH, REVIEWING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROPOSALS, I'M GOING, YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING TO PEOPLE AND THERE'LL BE CHANGES BETWEEN, BUT THE WEBSITE IS A DRAFT SUPERVISORS CAPITAL BUDGET. NO, NO. YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S A, BECAUSE BASICALLY THE CONCERN I HAD WAS THERE WAS $48 MILLION INITIALLY, AND WE'VE NEVER SPENT $48 MILLION IN, IN CAPITAL BUDGET. SO THE THING IS, THEN I MET WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND I, AND THEN I ASKED OUR CONTROLLER TO REACH OUT TO OUR FINANCIAL CONSULTANTS, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE COULD AFFORD $48 MILLION OR $60 MILLION IN ONE YEAR. SO I SAID, LET'S DO A THREE YEAR CAPITAL BUDGET. SO WE BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAVE A THREE YEAR CAPITAL BUDGET, WILL BE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT EVERYTHING THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS NEED, BUT IT'S NOT GONNA MESS UP OUR BOND RATING BECAUSE, AND IT'S NOT GONNA MESS UP THE TAXES BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BASICALLY BE DOING WHAT, WHAT WE'VE DONE IN PREVIOUS YEARS. YOU SHOULD HAVE EXPLAINED THAT TO THE STUDENT TWO WEEKS AGO. I WAS JUST ABOUT TO NO, BECAUSE GIVE A MIXED MESSAGE, PAUL, WHEN YOU SPEAK TO A STUDENT WITH SO MUCH ENTHUSIASM, I AM ENTHUSIASTIC, WHICH I KNOW YOU'RE ENTHUSIASTIC, BUT YOU'RE YOU, THE WAY YOU PROPOSED IT TO HER, IT'S LIKE, IT'S A DONE DEAL. GREAT IDEA, WE'RE GONNA DO IT. GO, YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO IT. AND THEN WE HAVE OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO HAVE PUT FORTH, UH, PROPOSALS THAT ARE TWO YEARS OLD. NO, BUT SO THEY GET A VERY, IT'S DISCOURAGING FOR THEM. NO, BECAUSE NO, IT ISN'T DISCOURAGING BECAUSE BASICALLY PEOPLE, WELL, OBVIOUSLY IT IS. NO, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S NOT DISCOURAGING BECAUSE PEOPLE, STUDENTS HAVE TO KNOW THAT IF THEY SPEAK OUT, THEY'RE GONNA BE LISTENED TO AND THEY SHOULD GET A REAL ANSWER. BUT YOU KNOW WHAT, SO, RIGHT, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT I, I'M TOTALLY COMMITTED TO IT. HAVE, AND I'M WORKING WITH THE COMMISSIONER NEXT TO COME UP WITH A TIMETABLE, WHO'S THE NEXT SPEAKER? UH, MY APOLOGIES. IT'LL BE MS. BEVILLE. UH, I SKIPPED OVER HER BEFORE. SORRY. GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. HONORABLE JUDITH BEVILLE, FORMER TOWN CLERK, 2008 TO 2023. UH, PAUL, THANK YOU IN THE BEGINNING FOR, UM, FOR, UH, MENTIONING AND HIGHLIGHTING, UH, THE FACT THAT THE GREENBERG STUDENT NEWS NETWORK, UH, IS, IS CONTINUING. UM, THAT PROGRAM WAS FOUNDED BY MYSELF AND A RESIDENT, PATTY LANG, WHO WAS A RETIRED, UH, NEWS DIRECTOR FROM, UH, A BC NEWS OR NBC NEWS. AND, UM, WITH RESPECT TO, THERE WAS A HIGHLIGHT OF THE GERARD J BYRNE CENTER, UM, UH, A POINT IN FACT, IN HISTORY, THE ARCHITECT OF THAT MULTIPURPOSE CENTER, UH, THAT YOU SAW HIGHLIGHTED, WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN SLASH CARIBBEAN WOMAN, UH, LORET, MICHELLE JE, WHO GREW UP HERE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ADDRESS WHAT APPEARS TO BE TOTAL DISRESPECT OF AN HONORARY SIGN OF ANOTHER AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN WHO LIVED ON JUNIPER HILL ROAD. DR. OLIVIA J H****R WAS ONE OF THE LAST SURVIVORS OF THE MOST HORRIFIC RACE RIOT IN US HISTORY IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA. SHE LIVED IN FAIRVIEW GREENBURG FOR OVER 60 YEARS. UM, SHE WAS A SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST AND BECAME THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN IN THE US COAST GUARD. SO SHE HAD, UH, OBTAINED A NATIONAL ACCLAIM. SHE, HER NAME IS ON, STARTED OUT ON, AND I'M BRINGING THIS UP BECAUSE I LAUNCHED THE FIRST EFFORT TO HIGHLIGHT HER, UH, WITH AN HONORARY STREET SIGN, WHICH WAS POSTED AT JUNIPER HILL ROAD AND FAIR STREET, THE JUNIPER HILL CIVIC ASSOCIATION, UM, ALSO POSTED A SIGN HONORING HER AT THE CORNER OF JUNIPER HILL ROAD AND SARATOGA ROAD. RECENTLY, ANOTHER HIGHLY RESPECTED, UH, WOMAN IN THE EDUCATION COMMUNITY. MILLIE SHEHAN, UM, UH, SIGN HONORING HER IS ALSO PLACED ON THE SAME, UM, UH, STREET POLE, A SIGN POLE, ALONG WITH DR. OLIVIA J H****R. UH, NOW NEITHER OF THESE WOMEN SHOULD HAVE TO SHARE THEIR HONORARY SIGN WITH EACH OTHER AT THIS POINT. IT IS IN, IT IS INCORRECTLY POSTED. [03:25:02] THE SIGN THAT, UM, HONORS, UH, DR. OLIVIA J H****R, JUNIPER HILL ROAD IS ON SARATOGA ROADSIDE OF THE, OF THE, UM, POLE. AND THE SIGN HONORING M OCEAN IS ON THE JUNIPER HILLSIDE, UH, UH, ROADSIDE. AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S REALLY, IT'S IMPROPERLY PLACED, AND AGAIN, ONE IS HIGHER THAN THE OTHER. THERE IS A SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE AND A SUBTEXT, UH, IN THE POSITIONING OF THESE TWO HONORARY SIGNS ON THE SAME POLL. BY PLACING ONE HIGHER THAN THE OTHER, COULD SUGGEST THAT ONE IS OF GREATER VALUE IN REFERENCE TO HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE AND RECOGNITION. ACTUALLY, DR. HOOKER'S NAME IS THE ONLY HONORARY NAME THAT SHOULD BE HIGHLIGHTED ON THE JUNIPER HILL ROAD SIDE. SHE LIVED THERE. THE OTHER HONORABLE, UM, UM, UM, PERSON, UH, MIL OCEAN DID NOT LIVE ON J JUNIPER HILL ROAD. WE HAVE A PRECEDENCE THAT'S BEEN ESTABLISHED HERE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. RODNEY ABRAMS PLAZA, UH, IS A, IS AN HONORARY SIGN, IS AN HONORARY SIGN GIVEN TO, UM, THE ENTRANCEWAY TO THEATER DE YOUNG THEATER DE YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER. IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD THEN BE APPROPRIATE. AND, AND THERE IS A SIGN THAT HAS MILLY O SHEEHAN'S NAME AT THE ENTRANCEWAY TO, UM, THE, THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL FOR WHICH SHE WAS, WAS CONNECTED WITH. NOW, IF THERE WAS GONNA BE EQUALITY IN THIS NAMING, UM, SITUATION, THEN THE RODNEY ABRAMS SIGN SHOULD BE POSTED ALL UP AND DOWN MANHATTAN ROAD. IF THE M SHEEHAN, UM, HONOREE, UM, RECOGNITION IS BEING GIVEN TO HER ALONG SARATOGA ROAD. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TONIGHT. THERE'S NO EQUALITY OR EQUITY IN THE POSTING OF THE SIGNS OF DR. H****R AND, AND MILLIE OCEAN. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA HAVE TO STOP YOU. YOU'RE WELL OVER TO FIVE MINUTES EQUITY. HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS? I'M NOT WELL OVER. EQUITY AND EQUALITY. EQUALITY, WE HAVE TO MOVE ON. EQUITY AND EQUALITY. MR. MR. FINER EQUITY IS THERE. SPEAKER EQUALITY, ANOTHER SPEAKER. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS, UM, CAROL ALLEN. WHOEVER PLACED THOSE SIGNS AND AUTHORIZED THEM IS OUT OF ORDER. NOW YOU'RE WELL BEYOND FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, WALTER. SIMON, I DISAGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID. GO CHECK THIS OUT. OKAY, UH, UH, UH, UH, GOOD EVENING AGAIN. UH, UM, ABOUT THE, THE NO KING STATE MARK. I AGREE. IT WAS A LAST MINUTE, UH, EVENT TO SCHEDULE IT AT. UH, UH, UH, AT THAT TIME, HOWEVER, IT WAS THE FIRST MEETING TO BE SCHEDULED IN THIS LOWER WESTCHESTER AVENUE, LITTLE WESTCHESTER AREA. I HAD PLANS TO GO DOWN TO THE CITY, BUT SEEING HOW THIS WAS THE FIRST I ATTENDED THIS, GOT ON THE TRAIN AND WENT DOWN TO THE CITY BECAUSE THIS WAS THE FIRST. SO EVEN IF YOU HAD MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD HAD OTHER COMMITMENTS, THIS WAS THE FIRST DURING THE DAY, AND ALL OF THE TOWNS OF ALL, I HAVE THE MAP OF ALL OF THE TOWNS THAT WERE ON THE MAP. THIS WAS THE FIRST IN LOWER WESTCHESTER COUNTY AND THE FIRST WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. SO MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME HERE FIRST AND THEN FULFILL THEIR COMMITMENT TO OTHER TOWNS IN LOWER WESTCHESTER, AND ESPECIALLY TOWNS, OTHER VILLAGES WITHIN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. I DID IT. AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY THE FOUR OF YOU COULDN'T DO THE SAME. OKAY, I JUST WANNA MAKE THAT POINT. AGREE IS THE LAST MINUTE. I MADE AN ADJUSTMENT THE LAST MINUTE, AND I DID GREENBERG AND I DID MANHATTAN. OKAY, THE OTHER POINT I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS THE IDEA OF REDUCING THE SIZE OF THE PLANNING BOARD. I [03:30:01] THINK THAT WILL BE A MISTAKE. THERE'S A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT THAT'S REQUIRED FOR PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS. THEY GO TO GO ON SITE VISITS, TO GO ON, UH, ON WHEN WE PASSED THE LAW THAT, UH, THAT THINGS THAT WERE CONSIDERED MINOR QUOTE, MINOR PROJECTS THAT, UH, A PLANNING BOARD MEMBER WOULD GO OUT, DO THAT ON THEIR OWN AND COME BACK WITH A RECOMMENDATION TO THE TOWN, WHOLE TOWN BOARD. SO, UH, UH, AND GIVE A RECOMMENDATION FOR THESE SO-CALLED MINOR WETLANDS CASES. THAT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND WE ROTATE IT THROUGH THE SEVEN MEMBERS TO DO THAT. NOW, TO DO IT WITH FIVE, I DON'T KNOW. UH, IN ADDITION, IN ADDITION, WHEN WE, THE, THE, THE PROBLEM THAT RESULTED TONIGHT WITH THE WHAT'S GOING ON IN NORWOOD, THERE'S NO, BY LAW, THE PLANNING BOARD DOES NOT HAVE TO HOLD PUBLIC HEARINGS FOR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE TOWN BOARD. HOWEVER, ON LARGE SITES, WE HAVE FOUND THAT TO BE EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO HAVE A, UH, UH, DISCUSSION SO MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY CAN COME IN AND TALK ABOUT IT. THE OTHER THING THAT IS, IS RE IT WOULD BE RE WHICH WOULD BE DIFFICULT WHEN ONLY FIVE MEMBERS, WHEN LARGE SITE, WHEN LARGE PROJECTS LIKE THAT START AT THE VERY BEGINNING, WE WOULD HAVE A NOTIFIED, UH, A PUBLIC SITE MEETING AND WE INVITE EVERYONE TO THAT MEETING. SO AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF LARGE PROJECTS, THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE INVOLVED. AND RIGHT AT THE BEGINNING, AND AGAIN, TO REDUCE THE SIZE TO FIVE MEMBERS AND EXPECT THOSE SAME TYPE OF THINGS TO TAKE PLACE, I THINK THAT YOU WOULD BE SHORT-CHANGING THE PLANNING BOARD. I THINK YOU NEED THAT AMOUNT OF PEOPLE TO DO A GOOD JOB AND TO REALLY TAKE THE TIME TO GO OUT AND SITE VISITS, ENGAGE WITH THESE LARGE PROJECTS AT THE VERY BEGINNING TO GET EVERYBODY INVOLVED. IT'D BE DIFFICULT TO DO IT WITH JUST FIVE PEOPLE. SO YOU NEED TO TAKE A VERY CLOSE LOOK AT THAT. AND I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD BE A MISTAKE TO REDUCE THE SIZE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND THE, WHEN WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING, THAT WOULD BE THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO MAKE THE STATEMENT. THIS IS JUST SCHEDULING PUBLIC HEARING TO GET COMMENTS ON THAT PROPOSAL. WE'RE NOT ON THIS AGENDA. I DON'T WANNA GET INTO DEBATE, BUT THIS AGENDA IS NOT REDUCING THE NUMBER. I, SO I'M JUST MENTION THAT BEFORE WE GO BOTH DOWN THE ROAD TOO FAR. ALRIGHT, SO OUR LAST SPEAKER WILL BE LESLIE DAVIS. HEY, YELLOW BREAK. . YES. GOOD EVENING. SUPERVISOR. FINER AND TOWN BOARD COUNCILS. AND MR. DANKO, UM, I'M GOING TO JUST JUMP RIGHT INTO IT. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE REDUCTION. I UNDERSTAND. A COUPLE OF THINGS I JUST WANNA PUT OUT THERE THAT I DO UNDERSTAND, UM, BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SAID TO ME QUITE A FEW TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW WEEKS THAT WE ARE SHORT ON THE PLANNING BOARD. I UNDERSTAND THAT. I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE HAD, UM, DIFFICULTY SOMETIMES HAVING A FULL BOARD MEMBER, UH, A FULL BOARD PRESENT. SO I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THIS IS WHERE WE ARE AT, HOW WE GOT HERE. WE DON'T HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THAT. THIS IS WHERE WE ARE. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S CONCERN MOVING FORWARD THAT WE WON'T HAVE ENOUGH BOARD MEMBERS ON, ON THE, UM, TO ATTEND TO MAKE A QUORUM AT ANY GIVEN TIME, WHETHER IT BE HOLIDAYS, WHETHER IT BE SOMEONE GOT SICK, SOMEONE GOT CAUGHT ON THE TRAIN, WHATEVER THE SITUATION IS. I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A CONCERN THAT WE ARE NOT, UM, AT THIS POINT HAVING THE QUORUM BE A HIGHER NUMBER THAN THREE. WE MIGHT BE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE CAN'T GO TO VOTE ON AN APPLICANT THAT'S IN FRONT OF US, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TYPE OF REPUTATION WITH OUR APPLICANTS. SO I JUST WANNA PUT THAT I DO UNDERSTAND THAT I'M HERE TONIGHT TO QUITE FRANKLY ASK THAT WE POSTPONE THE RESOLUTION. NOT BECAUSE I DON'T THINK SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE, BUT BECAUSE I THINK THAT THIS IS ONLY A PORTION OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. AND I DON'T THINK THIS RESOLUTION FULLY ENCOMPASSES EVERYTHING THAT NEEDS TO DONE TO BE DONE TO GET US TO BACK TO A FULL PLANNING BOARD. [03:35:01] I UNDERSTAND THAT WE MAY NEED TO REDUCE IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THAT, I THINK THAT'S A TEMPORARY FIX TO A PROBLEM. AND AS I TELL THE YOUNG FOLKS DON'T MAKE A PERMANENT DECISION ON A TEMPORARY PROBLEM, I THINK THAT IN MY, MY SUGGESTION WOULD BE THAT WE LOOK AT MAYBE REDUCING IT FOR THE TIME BEING, BUT THAT WE HAVE AN EYE TOWARDS GETTING IT BACK UP TO SEVEN. I AGREE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A SEVEN BOARD MEMBER PLUS ONE ALTERNATE TO REALLY ADDRESS THE MATTERS THAT COME BEFORE THE PLANNING BOARD. I ALSO WANT TO NOTATE THAT OVER THE COURSE OF DECADES OR TIME, THE MAKEUP OF THE POOL OF APPLICANTS HAVE TOTALLY CHANGED FROM WHAT IT USED TO BE. UH, YOU MAY HAVE HAD PEOPLE WHO HAD MORE TIME IN TERMS OF BEING RETIRED, BUT NOW OUR MAKEUP IS DIFFERENT. AND I DON'T THINK THAT WE HAVE TOTALLY TAPPED THE POOL OF PEOPLE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. I DID SPEAK WITH STAFF AND ASKED THEM WHAT THEIR METHODS WERE TO TAP PEOPLE TO BE, TO BE ON THE PLANNING BOARD. I DON'T THINK THAT THEY DID IT. AND I'M GONNA, JUST TAKING THIS FROM A CORPORATE POINT OF VIEW, AND HAVING WORKED IN LARGER ORGANIZATIONS, DONE IT IN THE WAY THAT WE WOULD BE SEARCHING FOR PEOPLE OR SCOUTING FOR TALENT. IF IT WAS A JOB, RIGHT? AND SOMEONE SAID TO ME, IT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT HARD. WE'RE GONNA TELL THEM YOU'RE GONNA WORK LONG HOURS, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET PAID. AND THE, AND CITIZENS ARE GONNA SCREAM AT YOU. NOT THE BEST WAY TO MARKET, MARKET IT, BUT THAT IS WHAT IT IS. AND SO I JUST WOULD REALLY ASK THAT IF WE CAN POSSIBLY TABLE IT AND REALLY DIG DOWN INTO THE RESOLUTION AND SEE IF WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN THE RESOLUTION WITH NOT AN EYE IN JUST FIXING IT FOR THE, THESE FEW MONTHS, BUT AN EYE IN REAL, SORRY. AND REALLY FIXING THE SITUATION FOR LONGER TERM. HOW DO WE, UM, HOW DO WE ADDRESS ENGAGING THE CITIZENS? HOW DO WE TAKE THEM THROUGH AND ONBOARDING PROCESS? HOW DO WE MAKE IT SO THAT WE DON'T FALL SHORT? AND THIS IS NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T NEED TO DO SOMETHING NOW, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT THIS SHOULD BE A PERMANENT SOLUTION. AND I'M, MY CONCERN IS THAT IF WE DO IT THIS WAY, IT WILL ALWAYS STAY THAT WAY. I DON'T AGREE THAT THREE PEOPLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED, THAT THREE PEOPLE IS THE OPTIMAL, OPTIMAL NUMBER TO VOTE, UH, OR TO ACCEPT OR DENY OR, OR VOTE ON AN APPLICATION. I, I THINK THAT THREE DOES NOT GIVE AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG. SO THAT IS MINE. UM, AND I ALSO WANTED TO JUST HAVE A LITTLE COMMENT ABOUT NO KINGS DAY. I, I DID, I GUESS MY PREFERENCE WOULD'VE BEEN TO STAY HERE. I MEAN, TOWN BOARD IS LIKE FIVE MINUTES FROM ME. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE THAT THAT DEMONSTRATION WAS FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL AS A CITIZEN TO EXPRESS THEIR WAY OR THEIR PROTEST AGAINST WHAT THEY FEEL MIGHT BE AN AUTHORITATIVE GOVERNMENT. HOWEVER YOU CHOSE TO DO THAT AS A CITIZEN. I CHOSE TO DO IT WITH FAMILY AND SOME OF THE YOUNGER FOLKS IN MY FAMILY. AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL, UM, WHEN WE ARE EXPRESSING OUR OPINION OF HOW SOMEONE SHOULD BE DEMOCRATIC ON THOSE. BECAUSE FOR ME, IT'S A VERY PERSONAL ISSUE. AND WHILE I WOULD'VE PREFERRED TO BE HERE THAN WAY DOWNTOWN, I FELT IT WAS ALSO IMPORTANT FOR ME AS AN OLDER MEMBER OF MY FAMILY TO BE WITH THE YOUNGER FOLKS OF MY FAMILY. SO I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED THAT WE DON'T DO THAT TO EACH OTHER. AND THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I, I'M GONNA HOLD OVER THAT RESOLUTION. UM, I DO, I DO WANT TO SAY THIS RESOLUTION IS NOT REDUCING ANYTHING. IT'S STARTING A FORMAL PROCESS TO GET PUBLIC INPUT ONTO WHAT THE COMPOSITION OF THE PLANNING BOARD SHOULD BE. I, I DUNNO, IT'S PEOPLE ARE TALKING LIKE AS IF, IF WE PASS THIS, WE REDUCE THE PLANNING BOARD. IF WE PASS THIS, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION, BUT A FORMAL WAY WE GET THE PROCESS GOING. I'M NOT FRANKLY, YOU KNOW, WED TO AN IDEA OF BRINGING IT DOWN TO FIVE, MAYBE LEAVE IT AT SEVEN AND ADD TWO ALTERNATES INSTEAD OF ONE. I LIKE THAT IDEA. THAT MIGHT, BUT WE'LL JUST START THE CALL TO START THE PROCESS. THAT'S WHAT THIS IS DOING, IS TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND HAVE IT IN A FORMAL WAY. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT TO REDUCE US PASSING. IF WE VOTE FOR, UH, CL FOUR, IT SIMPLY MEANS WE'RE GOING TO GET PUBLIC INPUT AS TO WHAT THE COMPOSITION SHOULD BE. BUT WHY CAN'T WE, INSTEAD OF UH, SAYING WE'RE GONNA REDUCE IT, WHY CAN'T C FOUR SAY, LET'S SAY TWO ALTERNATES? BECAUSE THE PROBLEM WITH REDUCING, I'M GONNA HOLD IT OVER, BUT THE, THE, THE HOLD IT OVER. WE DON'T HAVE A QUORUM. ALL. OKAY, WELL I'M GONNA, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE. I'M HOLDING IT OVER. BUT THE PROBLEM IS, WHICH IS MY PREROGATIVE. BUT THE PROBLEM WITH THE PROBLEM WITH REDUCING, IT'S [03:40:01] NOT DEBATABLE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO YOU DEB. WE ALSO HAVE TWO, WE HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS. OKAY. OKAY. SO LET'S GO. UH, APPOINTMENT OF JENNIFER. WE HAVE TWO MORE SPEAKERS ON ZOOM. SPEAKER ON ZOOM. UH, DO WE STILL HAVE JACOB AMIR ON WHAT? OH, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU SAID THIS TWO ON ZOOM. YEAH, ON ZOOM. THEY WAITED. JACOB, AMIR, JACOB, AMIR. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ANSWERING. I DUNNO IF THIS STUFF, UH, MAYBE THEY DID. THEY LOGGED OFF. I'LL TRY, I'LL TRY. DECLINED AND TRY ONE MORE. LET'S GIVE TWO SHOTS. LET'S GIVE TWO SHOTS. BUT IT, YEAH, STEVEN RAY. OKAY. DECLINED AGAIN. OKAY, STEVEN. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. THERE'S ONE MORE. WHAT? THAT'S YEAH, ONE MORE. ONE MORE TRY. STEVEN RABEL WILL BE JOINING. OKAY. OH, HE MIGHT BE HERE FOR A VOTE. HE MIGHT BE FOR A VOTE. UH, HE SAID HE WAS, NO, I THINK HE'S COMING IN NOW AGAIN. ALRIGHT. EITHER THAT OR HE SIGNED OFF . HE, HE'S THE ATTORNEY FOR SOME OF THESE RESOLUTIONS ON. I'M NOT SURE IF HE WANTED TO SPEAK AS WELL, BUT, OH, SOMETIMES ATTORNEYS, ARE YOU HERE JUST TO HEAR THE VOTE? TO HEAR THE VOTE. OH, OKAY. OH, THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, SO NO COMMENT THEN. OKAY. UH, APPOINTMENT OF [ BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS Appointment of Jennifer Frain to the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board, for a term to expire December 31, 2026] JENNIFER FRAME TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD FOR TERM TO EXPIRE DECEMBER 31ST, 2026. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? A AYE AYE. I DISPEN WITH THAT BECAUSE OF THE TIME WHAT HE'S NOT, [ TB 1 - 10/22/2025 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh adopting a Local Law amending Chapter 348 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh entitled “Filming” as it pertains to license fees] IT IS TB ONE RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG ADOPTING A LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER 3 48 OF THE CODE TOWN OF GREENBURG ENTITLED FILMING AS IT PERTAINS TO LICENSE FEES. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. [ TB 2 - 10/22/2025 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh amending Chapter 440 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh by creating a New Article XVIII, entitled “Climate Change Property Tax Assessment Relief”] TB TWO RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG MENDING CHAPTER FOUR 40 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG BY CREATING, UM, A NEW ARTICLE, UM, ENTITLED CLIMATE CHANGE PROPERTY TAX ASSESSMENT RELIEF. I'D LIKE TO UH, MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UM, [ TB 3 - 10/22/2025 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a one-year contract commencing January 1, 2025 through December 31, 2025 with the Village of Elmsford for Fire Protection Services to residents of the North Elmsford Fire Protection District, for an amount not to exceed $920,306.99] RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR ATTENDANT TO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025 WITH THE VILLAGE OF ELMSFORD FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO RESIDENTS OF THE NORTH ELMSFORD FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED IN 920,000 306 99. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. RESOLUTION [ TB 4 - 10/22/2025 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh authorizing the continued retention of Cozen O’Connor for the review and evaluation of a petition filed for the purposes of village incorporation for an additional $50,000; $250,000 in total] OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF COZEN O'CONNOR FOR THE REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF PETITION FILED FOR PURPOSES VILLAGE AND CORPORATION FOR AN ADDITIONAL 50,000. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT. THAT'S OUTSIDE COUNSEL, RIGHT? THAT'S OUTSIDE COUNSEL, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UH, TB [ TB 5 - 10/22/2025 Resolution of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh authorizing the continued retention of Dorf Nelson & Zauderer LLP to represent the Town in matters related to the NYS Chapter amendment affecting potential village incorporation requirements for an additional $50,000; $250,000 total] FIVE, UM, RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AUTHORIZING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF DORF NELSON AND ZADER TO REPRESENT THE TOWN IN THE MATTERS RELATING TO NEW YORK STATE CHAPTER AMENDMENT AFFECTING POTENTIAL VILLAGE INCORPORATION REQUIREMENTS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 50,250,000 TOTAL. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT. THAT'S OUTSIDE COUNSEL, RIGHT? YES, THAT IS SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. [ TB 6 - 10/22/2025 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to execute a Stormwater Facilities Access Easement Agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and Rashad Bilal to access the stormwater control measures for the project located on Lot 14 of the Carriage Hill Subdivision also identified as Parcel ID 8.110-64-33.214 on the Town of Greenburgh tax map] TB SIX RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TOWN SUPERVISOR. ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. TB SIX RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO EXECUTE, UM, A STORMWATER FACILITIES XXI EASEMENT AGREEMENT BETWEEN TOWN OF GREENBURG AND RUSSIA. GOLE TO ASSESS, UM, THE ACCESS STORM TO ASSESS ACCESS, ACCESS, ACCESS, I'M SORRY, THE STORMWATER, UH, CONTROL MEASURES FOR THE PROJECT LOCATED ON LOT 14 OF THE CARRIAGE HILL SUBDIVISION ALSO IDENTIFIED AS PARCEL. UM, 8 1 1 0 6 4 3 3 2 1 4 ON THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TAX MAP. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE. AYE. AYE. UH, [ TB 7 - 10/22/2025 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to execute a Stormwater Control Facility Maintenance Agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and Rashad Bilal for maintenance and continuation of stormwater control measures for the project located on Lot 14 of the Carriage Hill Subdivision also identified as Parcel ID 8.110-64-33.214 on the Town of Greenburgh tax map] TB SEVEN RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO EXECUTE A STORMWATER CONTROL FACILITY MAINTENANCE AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND RUSSIA, BILAL FOR MAINTENANCE AND CONTINUATION OF STORMWATER WATER CONTROL MEASURES FOR THE PROJECT LOCATED ON, UH, 14 OF THE CARRIAGE HILL SUBDIVISION. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. [ AT 1 - 10/22/2025 Resolution rescinding Resolution AT-3 – 09/10/2025 and authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner 40 Cedar Street LLC for property located at 40 Cedar St. The Town’s share of the refund is $560±; the County’s share is $3,895±; the No. Yonkers Sewer District’s share is $671±; the Dobbs Ferry Union Free School District’s share is $27,741±. Refunds from all sources total $32,866±] A T ONE RESCINDING RESOLUTION. UM, UM, A T THREE AUTHORIZING TAX YE SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER 40 CEDAR STREET. UM, AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. NOT GONNA READ IT. UH, YOU WANT ME TO READ IT? UH, AUTHORIZING TAX TERTIARY SETTLEMAN WITH PETITIONER 40 CEDAR STREET, LLC FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 40 CEDAR STREET. THE TOWNS SHARE OF THE REFUND IS, UH, FIVE 60 COUNTY SHARE IS 3 8 9 5. THE NORTH YONKERS SEWER DISTRICT SHARE IS SIX $71. AND DO SARA UNION, UM, SCHOOL DISTRICT HERE IS 27,741. REFUNDS FROM WALL SOURCES 32 8 6 6. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. I, UH, RESOLUTION [ CL 1 - 10/22/2025 Resolution authorizing closing Bradford Avenue between Maryton Road and Ethelton Road, on Friday, October 31, 2025 (Rain Date: November 1, 2025), from 2:00 pm until 9:00 pm, for the residents of Bradford Avenue to hold their Halloween Block Party] AUTHORIZING ONE C ONE, UM, UH, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING CLOSING BRADFORD AVENUE BETWEEN MARIN ROAD AND ETHERTON ROAD ON FRIDAY, [03:45:01] OCTOBER 31ST. UM, RAIN DATE IS NOVEMBER 1ST. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. RESOLUTION [ CL 2 - 10/22/2025 Resolution authorizing closing Shaw Lane between Eiler Lane and 12 Shaw Lane, on Saturday, October 25, 2025 (No Rain Date), from 5:00 pm until 11:00 pm, for the residents of Shaw Lane to hold a Halloween Block Party] AUTHORIZING CLOSING SHORE LANE BETWEEN ISLER LANE AND 12 SHORE LANE ON SATURDAY, OCTOBER 25TH FROM 5:00 PM UNTIL 11:00 PM FOR RESIDENCE OF SHORE LANE TO HOLD A HALLOWEEN BLOCK PARTY. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UM, C3 [ CL 3 - 10/22/2025 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh (Lead Agency), for Wednesday, November 12, 2025 at 7:30 PM, to discuss modifications to an approved 113-unit residential subdivision development as it relates to a prior Town Board SEQRA Findings Statement for the site of the former Elmwood Country Club located at 850 Dobbs Ferry Road (P.O. White Plains, NY)] RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE TOWN BOARD, THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, UM, FOR WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 12TH TO DISCUSS MODIFICATIONS TO, UM, AN APPROVED ONE 13, UH, UNIT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT AS IT RELATES TO A PRIOR TOWN BOARD SEEKER FINDING STATEMENT FOR THE SITE OF THE FORMER ELMWOOD COUNTRY CLUB LOCATED AT EIGHT FIVE O DO ROAD. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR. AYE. UM, [ CL 4 - 10/22/2025 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, November 12, 2025 at 7:30 PM to consider a Local Law amending Chapter 605 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh, as it relates to Planning Board composition and procedures] C FOUR RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER 6 0 5 OF UH OH. I'D LIKE TO HOLD THAT OVER C FOUR. YOU HOLDING OVER THE ONE ABOUT THE PLANNING BOARD? YES. MEMBERSHIP? YES. UM, [ CL 5 - 10/22/2025 Resolution scheduling a public hearing for 7:30PM, Wednesday, November 12, 2025, to consider Town Board use of limited immunity in connection with the installation of lights at West Rumbrook Park located at 2305 Saw Mill River Road,(P.O. Elmsford NY) [TB 25-11]] OKAY. CL FIVE RESOLUTION. SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR SEVEN 30 WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH TO CONSIDER THE TOWN BOARD USE OF LIMITED IMMUNITY IN CON CONNECTION WITH INSTALLATION OF LIGHTS AT WEST BROOK. UH, PARK LOCATED AT 2 3 0 5 SOMO RIVER ROAD. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UH, CD ONE RESOLUTION. ACCEPT. HELD OVER. HELD OVER. UH, C UH, D UH, WAIT. CD [ CD 1 - 10/22/2025 Resolution declaring the intention of the Town Board of the Town of Greenburgh to be Lead Agency for a site plan and related applications of 1 Lawrence Ardsley LLC (“1 Lawrence St. Applicant”), for property located at 1 Lawrence Street (P.O. Ardsley), and referring the site plan application to the Planning Board for review and recommendation [TB 25-03]] CD 1 10 20 SHOULD BE TWO. YEAH, THAT'S ALSO HELD OVER. NO, THE SECOND ONE'S. OKAY. RESOLUTION DECLARING THE INTENTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO BE LEAD AGENCY FOR A SITE PLAN AND RELATED APPLICATIONS OF ONE LAWRENCE AVENUE, UH, FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT ONE LAWRENCE STREET AND REFERRING THE SITE PLAN APPLICATION TO THE PLANNING BOARD FOR REVIEW AND RECOMMENDATION. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AND THE ONE THAT WAS JUST READ IS CD TWO. YEAH. TYPO. OKAY. UH, [ CO 1 - 10/22/2025 Resolution authorizing fiscal year 2025 budget transfers] CO ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING FISCAL YEAR 2025. BUDGET TRANSFERS. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT. ANYONE SECOND? UH, CO ONE SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. AYE. PH ONE [ PH 1 - 10/22/2025 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to execute an Inter-Municipal Agreement (IMA) between the Town of Greenburgh and Westchester County to reimburse the Town $16,666.67 for the Summer Youth Employment Program at the Theodore D. Young Community Center for the Period of July 1, 2025 through September 30, 2025] RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO ENTER AN INTERIM MUNICIPAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND WESTCHESTER COUNTY, REIMBURSER TOWN, UH, 16,000 606 6 67 FOR SUMMARY YOUTH EMPLOYMENT PROGRAM AT THE, THE YOUNG COMMUNITY CENTER. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. [ PO 1 - 10/22/2025 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to execute a Hold Harmless Agreement between the Town of Greenburgh and White Plains 707-709 Westchester, LLC, for the use of 707-709 Westchester Ave., White Plains, NY 10605] AYE. AND FINALLY, PO UH, ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR TO HELD A HOME HOLD HARMLESS AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND WHITE PLAINS. 7 0 7. 7 0 9 WESTCHESTER FOR THE USE OF 7 0 7 WESTCHESTER AVENUE WHITE PLAINS. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR. AYE. MOVE. WE ADJOURN. I, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SCHEDULE A PUBLIC A, UH, A SPECIAL MEETING FOR NOVEMBER 3RD AT THAT'S A MONDAY. WHAT, UH, WHAT TIME WOULD YOU LIKE NOVEMBER 3RD. WHAT TIME? IT HAS TO BE A WORK SESSION. IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY SPECIAL MEETING OR A WORK SESSION. YOU MEAN A WORK SESSION? NO, NO, NO. SPECIAL MEETING. SPECIAL MEETING TO, WE HAVE TO, UH, VOTE ON SELECTING, UH, THE CONSULTANT FOR THE FORENSIC ORDER. SO CAN WE DO A FIVE 30? UH, I I'M HOLDING IT OVER. YOU ALREADY HELD IT OVER? NO, I'M HOLDING, I'M HOLDING OVER THE MOTION. YOU CAN'T HOLD OVER YOU MOTION. YOU ALREADY HELD IT OVER WHAT YOU ALREADY HELD OVER. YOU CAN'T HOLD OVER THE MOTION. SO CAN WE HAVE A SET THE SPECIAL MEETING ON? RIGHT. OKAY. BUT ARE WE HAVING A WORK SESSION? IS MY QUESTION ALSO BECAUSE NO, NO. WELL, WHY DON'T WE MAKE IT A WORK SESSION ALSO. WHAT'S THE DATE? NOVEMBER 3RD BECAUSE NOVEMBER 4TH IS ELECTION DAY, SO YEAH. SO LET'S HAVE THE WORK SESSION ALSO, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HAVE THE WORK SESSION ON NOVEMBER, ON THAT MONDAY. WHAT'S THAT? WHY WOULDN'T WE COMBINE IT IF YOU WANT TO. IT'S JUST, IT'S GONNA MAKE IT, IT'S RIGHT BEFORE IT'S THE NIGHT OF ELECTION. IT'S, YOU KNOW. BUT DON'T Y'ALL GOT STUFF TO DO THE NIGHT BEFORE THE ELECTION? YEAH, SOME NO. PAUL'S RUN. UH UH, LISTEN, THAT'S UP TO HIM. CAN YOU JUST TELL ME WHAT WE DO? ALL I CARE ABOUT IS A SPECIAL MEETING. SO CAN WE DO THE SPECIAL MEETING AT FIVE 30? YES. FIVE 30. SPECIAL MEETING. 11 3, 5 30. WAIT, LEMME JUST HOLD ON FOR A SECOND. FIVE, THREE. YOU KNOW WHAT I, OKAY, THAT'S FINE. ALRIGHT. ALRIGHT. I MADE THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. THANK YOU. OKAY. GOOD. MOTION TO CLOSE OR ADJOURN? MOTION TO ADJOURN. OKAY. MOTION TO ADJOURN. SECOND. GOOD. THANKS. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.