* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. RECORDING [00:00:01] IN PROGRESS. UM, HI. UH, TODAY [ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 Email: HCancro@GreenburghNY.com https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ] IS, UH, MONDAY, NOVEMBER 3RD AFTER 5 45. AND, UH, WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING TO BEGIN THE MEETING. UM, AND TOWN CLERK WILL DO THE ROLL CALL MICROPHONES. I'M SORRY. MAYBE DO IT AGAIN. OKAY. WHY DON'T YOU SAY IT AGAIN. OKAY. SO, TODAY IS, UM, NOVEMBER 3RD, AND, UM, IT'S THE AFTER 5 45. AND, UM, WE'RE STARTING THE MEETING WITH A SPECIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, MEETING. AND THEN WE'LL HAVE, UM, WORK SESSION, UM, AND THE TOWN CLERK WILL START WITH THE ROLL CALL. UH, GOOD EVENING SUPERVISOR. FINER HERE. COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS. PRESENT. COUNCILWOMAN NEIGHBOR PRESENT. COUNCILMAN HAN. PRESENT. COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON, PRESENT TOWN ATTORNEY AND PARLIAMENTARIAN MR. JOE DKO PRESENT. OKAY. UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS TB ONE. IT'S A RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, RETAINING EFPR GROUP, C-P-A-S-P-L-L-C, TO PROVIDE FORENSIC AUDIT SERVICES TO EXAMINE FINANCIAL RECORDS, INCLUDING BANK STATEMENTS, JOURNAL ENTRIES, GENERAL LEDGER, AND OTHER RELEVANT DOCUMENTS ACROSS DEPARTMENTS TO IDENTIFY ANY IRREGULARITIES, DISCREPANCIES, AND OR DEVIATIONS FROM BEST ACCOUNTING, UH, PRINCIPLES FOR THE YEARS 2020 2023 FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $72,000. UH, BEFORE A MOTION IS MADE, I DECIDED, I'M VOTING NO ON THE RESOLUTION. THE AMOUNT IS $72,000 AND THE AUDIT ONLY FOCUSES ON THE YEARS 2020 TO 2023. I BELIEVE THAT, UM, OUR CAPABLE CONTROLLER WHO WAS NOT IN OFFICE BETWEEN 2020 AND 2023, SHE'S ALREADY MADE CHANGES IN, UM, IN PRACTICES, AND SHE IS ALREADY HELPING US MAKE SURE THAT THE TOWN IS BETTER RUN THAN IT EVER, UM, HAS BEEN RUN. UM, THE CURRENT CONTROLLER WHO I HOPE THE BOARD HAS CONFIDENCE IN, IS MORE THAN CAPABLE TO EXAMINE ALL FINANCIAL RECORDS, STATEMENTS, JOURNAL ENTRIES, GENERAL LEDGER, AND OTHER DOCUMENTS. I WOULD PREFER THAT WE PROVIDE HER WITH MORE TIME TO SCRUTINIZE WHAT OCCURRED BEFORE SHE ASSUMED HER JOB AND TO PROVIDE, UH, THE TOWN WITH ADDITIONAL BEST PRACTICE, UH, CHANGES AFTER SHE COMPLETES HER REVIEW. ONE OF THE BIGGEST COSTS IN GOVERNMENT IS OUTSIDE, UM, CONSULTANTS AND OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS, AND I BELIEVE THE $72,000 IS A WASTE OF MONEY BECAUSE THE CONTROL, THE CURRENT CONTROLLER IS BASICALLY HAS ALREADY, UH, MADE, MADE CHANGES, UM, AND, UM, AND IS MORE THAN CAPABLE, UH, TO, UM, TO RECOMMEND ADDITIONAL, UH, CHANGES. SHE'S ALSO MORE FAMILIAR, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENED IN THE TOWN BECAUSE SHE'S HAD PROBABLY ABOUT TWO YEARS RIGHT NOW TO, UM, REVIEW OUR, OUR BUDGETS AND SHE'S MADE MANY, YOU KNOW, POSITIVE CHANGES. UM, I ALSO BELIEVE THAT, UM, IF WE WON A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF WHAT, WHAT OCCURRED BEFORE KIMBERLY, UH, UH, UH, TOOK OFFICE, WE COULD GIVE HER AN ASSIGNMENT AND WE COULD EVEN GIVE HER AN ADDITIONAL STIPEND IF YOU WANT. SAY, THIS HAS TO BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR, GIVE US A REPORT AND WE COULD BASICALLY SEE IF YOU KNOW WHAT SHE SAYS, WHAT SHE'S READY TO IMPLEMENT, AND IT WILL BE MUCH, MUCH LESS, MUCH LESS EXPENSIVE THAN THE $72,000. ANOTHER CONCERN THAT I HAVE IS, UM, WE MADE A PROMISE TO VILLAGE OFFICIALS THAT BEFORE ANYTHING IS INCLUDED IN THE, UM, A BUDGET, WE WOULD PROVIDE VILLAGE OFFICIALS WITH AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON ANY PROPOSED NEW A BUDGET EXPENDITURES. AND, UH, THE VILLAGE OFFICIALS, UM, WERE NOT CONSULTED. AND I THINK THAT $72,000 IS A NEW ADDITION AND IT SHOULD HAVE, AND THEY SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST BEEN, UM, YOU KNOW, GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, COMMENT. UM, ANOTHER, AND THE FINAL THING I WANNA MENTION IS THAT THE AUDIT ONLY LOOKS BACK AT WHAT WAS DONE. IT DOESN'T REQUIRE THE AUDIT COMPANY TO ADVISE WHAT PRAC BEST PRACTICES IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE, UM, AND THE CURRENT, UM, CHARGE, UM, OF THE NEW COMPANY. IF WE, IF THE BOARD GOES WITH IT, WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON 2024 OR EVEN PARTS OF TWO TH 25, WHICH IS THE CURRENT YEARS, I'M MORE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT [00:05:01] WHAT WE COULD DO GOING FORWARD TO IMPROVE OUR BEST, UM, PRACTICES. WHEN THE CONTROLLER WAS APPOINTED, I AND ALL THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ASKED HER TO LOOK FOR WAYS TO HER TO LOOK FOR BEST PRACTICE IMPROVEMENTS, TO ADVISE IF ANYTHING, UM, THAT WAS DONE PREVIOUSLY NEEDED CHANGES. AND, UH, OUR CONTROLLER HAS, HAS DONE THAT. SO I WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING, WHERE WE'RE GONNA GO DO GOING FORWARD THAT IS, UM, DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE DID IN THE PAST. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT, NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THIS, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER THE BOARD WANTS TO DO. IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE A MOTION, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ASK A QUESTION. SURE. SO WHEN YOU SAY YOU'RE NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THIS FORENSIC AUDIT, DOES THAT MEAN THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, PUT FORWARD, UH, A RESOLUTION FOR AN, UH, FORENSIC AUDIT FOR 2020 TO 2024? UH, I, I WILL. BETWEEN 2020 AND 2000 AND 2000, YOU KNOW, 24, 2025, 2023, I FEEL THAT THE CURRENT CONTROLLER SHOULD BE DOING THE, THAT 2024. SORRY, MAYBE I WASN'T CLEAR ABOUT MY QUESTION. SO ARE YOU SAYING YOU DO NOT WANT TO DO A FORENSIC AUDIT FOR, FOR THROUGH AN OUTSIDE CONSULTANT AT ALL? NO. IF IT'S FOR TWO, 2024, THAT'S FINE. IN 2025, THAT COULD BE, THAT'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT BECAUSE THAT RIGHT NOW THERE'S SOME THAT KIMBERLY IS NOT THE PREVIOUS CONTROLLER MM-HMM . SO THERE'S NO, SO YOU, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, IF YOU HAVE AN INDEPENDENT, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY ELSE LOOKING AT IT, THEY COULD BE REALLY OBJECTIVE. AND SHE'S VERY, VERY THOROUGH AND SHE'S VERY DETAIL ORIENTED. UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE'S ALREADY IDENTIFIED YEAH. CHANGES. BUT YOU'RE SORT OF CONTRADICTING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, UM, FOR 2024 AND 2025. YES. BECAUSE YOU'RE SAYING IF SHE'S CAPABLE OF DOING IT, THEN SHE'S CAPABLE OF DOING THE WHOLE THING. POSSIBLY, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY. SO I CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR PERSPECTIVE IF YOU DON'T WANNA SPEND $72,000 ON AN OUTSIDE, ON A FORENSIC AUDIT IF YOU DON'T WANNA HAVE A FORENSIC AUDIT. BUT IF YOU'RE THEN GONNA COME BACK AND SAY YOU WANNA HAVE ONE FOR A DIFFERENT TIME PERIOD, THAT'S DIFFERENT. NO, NO, BECAUSE BASICALLY RIGHT NOW, UM, I, I HAVE CONFIDENCE IN OUR CONTROLLER. I THINK SHE'S DOING A, A GREAT JOB. I THINK SHE'S, UM, FINDING WAYS OF TIGHTENING UP OPERATIONS, RUNNING THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, MORE EFFICIENTLY. SO I HAVE, SO I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE'S THE BEST OF THE BEST WHEN IT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, AUDITS. AND I THINK SHE COULD DO, SHE'LL DO, SHE COULD DO, IF GIVEN A CHANCE, A BETTER JOB, UH, THAN ANY OUTSIDE AUDIT FIRM. UM, SO YOU'RE NOT GONNA PROPOSE A DIFFERENT TIME. I'M NOT, IN ADDITION TO THE WORK THAT SHE'S ALREADY DOING, IT, IT, IT'S KIND OF CONTRADICTORY, BUT ALSO, UM, DIDN'T YOU APPROVE THAT WE WOULD HAVE A FORENSIC ORDER FOR THOSE AUDIT IN THE VOTE WHEN WE VOTED ON THE BOARD THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE FORENSIC AUDIT FROM 2020 TO 2023 ALREADY. AND NOW YOU NOW THAT, AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT AND TALKING ABOUT IT IN OPEN WORK SESSIONS. SO, UM, AND, AND YOU MADE THE PROMISE AND YOU HAVE BEEN LIAISING WITH THE, THE VILLAGE OFFICIALS COMMUNITY. SO YOU DIDN'T ADVISE THEM OF THAT AFTER YOU VOTED FOR IT AND NOW YOU ARE VOTING AGAINST IT. WELL, NOW THAT WE'VE GOT THE ACTUAL MONIES, JUST, JUST SAYING. OKAY. LET, LET, LET ME SAY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, AFTER WE, WE DID AN INTERVIEW WITH A FIRM THAT BASICALLY HAS NO EXPERIENCE DEALING WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, NO FAMILIARITY WITH OUR BUDGET OR, OR ANYTHING. WE WANTED THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE WANT. THAT'S THE PURPOSE. OKAY. WELL, LEMME JUST SAY, I, I BASICALLY HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE IN OUR CURRENT CONTROLLER. I THINK WE WOULD GET, UH, MORE VALUE IF, UH, IF IF WE TOLD HER THAT BETWEEN NOW AND END OF THE YEAR, WE WANT A COMPREHENSIVE ANALYSIS OF OH, SHE GONNA HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. THE BUDGET. SHE'S DOING THE BUDGET. DO SHE, I THINK THAT THINK WE, SHE WOULDN'T, AND YOU DON'T WANNA PAY HER. AND I WOULD ALSO BE WILLING TO, UM, UH, PAY HER MUCH LESS THAN THE $72,000 IF SHE WANTED TO WORK, UM, IN HER FREE TIME TO, UH, UH, TO, TO DO THIS. BECAUSE I THINK SHE, I THINK WE WOULD GET MORE BAND FOR, FOR THE BUCK. SO THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER WE SHOULD BE DOING THE REVIEW. THE ISSUE IS HOW COULD WE GET THE MOST VALUE AND THE MOST BENEFITS? AND SHE, ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE SHE, SHE POINTED OUT TO THE TOWN BOARD, UM, SOME BEST PRACTICES, UM, IMPROVEMENTS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE AND SHE'S MADE CORRECTIONS. MM-HMM . SO LET HER CONTINUE TO DO WHAT SHE'S DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB OF. AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, AGAIN, IF YOU, I MEAN WE, AND YOU KNOW, I REALLY THINK, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, THE KEY IS WE ALL HAVE [00:10:01] THE SAME GOAL. WE WANT TO HAVE THE MOST EFFICIENT TOWN, UH, UH, WE WANT TO, UH, MAKE CHANGES IF THEY'RE APPROPRIATE. AND WE WANT TO GIVE HER, UH, UH, CARD, YOU KNOW, UH, UH, BASICALLY THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY ANY, ANY CHANGES THAT, ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED. AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I TOLD HER, WE'LL LISTEN TO HER, UH, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THESE THINGS. SO I'M JUST GIVING YOU MY OWN OPINION, YOU KNOW, I RESPECT EVERY, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, I, I HAVE REFLECTED AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO SOME PEOPLE, UM, SINCE THE AUDIT. AND THAT'S WHY, UM, YOU KNOW, I, THAT'S WHY I BASICALLY AM VOTING NO. OKAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION AND THEN WE CAN HAVE FURTHER DISCUSSION. YEAH. AFTER AS A SECOND, UH, TB ONE RESOLUTION OF THE TOWN BOARD OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, RETAINING EFPR GROUP, S-P-A-S-P-L-L-C, TO PROVIDE FORENSIC AUDIT SERVICES TO EXAMINE FINANCIAL RECORDS INCLUDING BANK STATEMENTS, JOURNAL ENTRIES, GENERAL LEDGER, AND OTHER RELEVANT DOCUMENTS ACROSS DEPARTMENTS TO IDENTIFY ANY IRREGULARITIES, DISCREPANCIES AND OR DEVIATIONS FROM BEST ACCOUNTING PRINCIPLES FOR THE YEARS 2020 TO 2023 FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $72,000. THAT IS THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? OH, SORRY. OH, YOU HAD THE DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION, DISCUSSION. YES. PAUL, I AM NOT SURPRISED YOU AS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE TOWN, NOT THE CONTROLLER. WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT YOU DID TONIGHT. I ASKED THAT THIS FORENSIC AUDIT BE DONE BECAUSE I AM THE LIAISON TO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE AND THE CONTROLLER KEPT COMING TO ME AND SAYING SHE DIDN'T WANT HER REPUTATION IMPUGNED BY THE WAY THE TOWN WAS RUN PRIOR TO HER BECOMING CONTROLLER. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE PRIOR CONTROLLER. IT'S ABOUT YOU PAUL, BEING THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. IF YOU NOTICE THAT THE RESOLUTION AS WE WORDED IT TONIGHT, I WORDED IT, IT DOESN'T AUTHORIZE THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE CONTRACT. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T THINK YOU EVER WOULD. AND THE WAY WE CAN KNOW THAT IS I MADE A MOTION AT THE LAST TOWN BOARD MEETING TO SCHEDULE A SPECIAL MEETING TO HIRE THIS LAW FIRM. AND YOU TRY TO HOLD OVER A MOTION. YOU CAN'T HOLD OVER A MOTION. YOU HAVE TRIED TO DELAY AND DELAY AND DELAY THIS FORENSIC AUDIT AS MUCH AS YOU POSSIBLY COULD. YOU HELD IT OVER ON A PREVIOUS AGENDA WHEN WE WERE JUST PUTTING IT FORWARD. NOW WE HAVE IT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT. THE CONTROLLER, YES, HAS FOUND THINGS THAT IS VERY DISTURBING TO HER, BUT SHE ALSO HAS A JOB TO DO DURING THE REGULAR DAY. AND SO SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHAT ELSE THERE IS TO FIND. AND YOU KNOW THAT SHE HAS FOUND THINGS 'CAUSE YOU ARE YELLING AT HER IN HER OFFICE WITH HER STAFF LISTENING, WHICH I FIND TO BE UNCONSCIONABLE THAT YOU WOULD DO. YOU SAID YOU SIT HERE TONIGHT. I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE IN HER. YOU'RE UPSET REGARDING THIS. YOU WANTED TO KNOW WHAT DID YOU FIND, WHAT DID YOU FIND, WHAT DID YOU FIND? AND BERATED HER IN FRONT OF HER OFFICE STAFF. THAT'S WRONG. THIS AUDIT IS NECESSARY TO FIND OUT WHAT ELSE IS WRONG. NOT JUST, BUT WHAT SHE FOUND. AND FRANKLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR HER TO TELL THE AUDITORS WHAT SHE FOUND. LET'S SEE WHETHER OR NOT THEY FOUND THE SAME THING AND MORE OR LESS, AND WE'LL THEN KNOW THE QUALITY OF THE AUDIT. BUT THIS IS NECESSARY TO BE DONE. IT HAD TO BE DONE PLUGGING HOLES. THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT SHE DOES SHIFTING MONEY AROUND AS YOU WOULD WANT HER TO DO. THAT'S NOT WHAT SHE DOES. SO WE HAVE A CONTROLLER WHO CARES ABOUT THE FINANCES AND THE ACCURATE REPORTING OF THE FINANCES. SHE'S SHOCKED THAT YOU ARE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, BUT OKAY, NEW YORK STATE LAW MAKES YOU THE SUPERVISOR, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. BUT I WOULD THINK THAT YOU WOULD WANT, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT ALREADY, THAT YOU WOULD WANNA KNOW WHAT WAS DONE WRONG IN THE PAST SO WE COULD FIX IT FOR THE FUTURE. BUT APPARENTLY, YOU KNOW [00:15:01] WHAT WAS DONE WRONG AND YOU DON'T WANT IT TO COME OUT. BUT WE DO, WE WANT TO KNOW HOW WE CAN HAVE A BUDGET, HOW WE CAN HAVE OUR A LINE B LINES, ET CETERA, THAT ARE HANDLED PROPERLY. AND AS YOU, THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, WE NEVER HEARD SO MANY TIMES THAT YOU WERE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER UNTIL YOU STARTED TALKING ABOUT, HEY, I HAVE A RIGHT TO SEE, UH, TO ME'S BILLS. I'M THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. I'M THE CHIEF FINANCIAL. WELL, YES, YOU ARE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT THIS FORENSIC AUDIT FINDS. THE, THE VOTE NO. FIRST OF ALL, I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO MAKE PERSONAL ATTACKS. WHAT IS THE PERSONAL ATTACK? FIRST OF ALL, I'M NOT GOING TO, I'M NOT GOING TO HAVE A DEBATE OR I JUST BASICALLY, I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT. I DON'T WANT, FIRST OF ALL, THE CONTROLLER HAS TOLD US WHAT SHE HAS ALREADY FOUND THAT SHOULD BE MADE PUBLIC TO, UH, YOU KNOW, TO THE PUB PUBLIC. SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHAT YOU KNOW. SO WHAT SHE FOUND, BUT NO, UH, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU SAID SHE TOLD YOU. WHAT DID SHE FIND? YOU? JUST, YOU, YOU KNOW WHAT, UH, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE THE VOTE? AND THEN DURING THE, YOU OBVIOUSLY OTHER BOARD MEMBERS, YOU MADE A STATEMENT THAT SHE TOLD US WHAT DID PROVIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO A, A PUBLIC FIGHT OVER THIS. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE DOING THE AUDIT. WE'LL FIND OUT AND YOU'RE THE LIAISON TO, UH, THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE. EVERYBODY ON THE TOWN BOARD VOTES ON THE BUDGET. EVERYBODY, UM, ON THE TOWN BOARD OVERSEES ALL ASPECTS OF THE TOWN. SO, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T, RIGHT NOW, I DON'T HAVE HIRING POWER. I DON'T HAVE, UH, FIRING POWER. I DON'T HAVE VETO POWER ACCORDING TO NEW YORK STATE LAW. I'M ONE OF FIVE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD. SO ALL OF US ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT, UM, OCCURRED WHEN WE WERE BOARD MEMBERS. AND YOU CERTAINLY ARE AS ALSO RESPONSIBLE. SO CAN'T JUST POINT FINGERS. AND YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE A, A GREAT BOND RATING. THE HIGHEST POSSIBLE BOND RATING. YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE. YEAH. AND HOW IS THAT OBTAINED? WHAT, WHAT IBEL DO YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU MAY NOT HAVE CONFIDENCE IN THE TOWN GOVERNMENT, WHICH YOU, WHEN YOU VOTED ON THE BUDGET AND YOU ALSO, UH, EVALUATED THE PREVIOUS CONTROLLERS. SO THE THING IS, AND YOU GAVE GREAT RATINGS TO THE PREVIOUS CONTROLLERS. SO STOP. 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND. YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M NOT AN ACCOUNTANT. I'M NOT AN ACCOUNTANT. WHY WOULD YOU BE CONCERNED ABOUT FINDING OUT WHAT I BASICALLY WANTED AND WHAT WAS WRONG? I, BECAUSE LET ME SAY SOMETHING IF YOU VOTED NO, IT'S OKAY. OKAY. SO WHY DON'T WE, LET'S NOT HAVE A, A PUBLIC, UH, NO BABY TANTRUM. OKAY. UM, WELL TRY NOT TO DO THAT. OKAY, GOOD. OKAY. SO THERE'S A VOTE. UH, VOTE ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UH, I VOTE NO. OKAY. OKAY. C ONE RESOLUTION SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24TH AT 7:30 PM TO CONSIDER THE 2026 PRELIMINARY BUDGET. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT. I SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. UH, C TWO RESOLUTION, SETTING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24TH AT 7:30 PM TO CONSIDER THE 2026 RECOMMENDED CAPITAL BUDGET AND 2027 AND 2028 CAPITAL PLAN. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. SEE ALL THREE RESOLUTION, SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 12TH AT 7:30 PM TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER 6 0 5 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AS IT RELATES TO PLANNING BOARD COMPOSITION AND, UM, AND, UM, AND PROCEDURES. UM, DOES ANYBODY WANNA MAKE A MOTION? BECAUSE, UH, I DO NOT, UH, SUPPORT, UH, REDUCING THE NUMBER OF MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING BOARD. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION. THIS IS, THIS SHOWS HOW LITTLE HOMEWORK YOU DO ON THE BUDGET. I MAY KNOW ON THE RESOLUTION THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH, UH, REDUCING THE NUMBER ON THE PLANNING BOARD. I'LL MAKE THE MOTION SINCE YOU DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR IT. C3 RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER, UH, 12TH, 2025 AT 7:30 PM TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW AMENDING CHAPTER 6 0 5 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AS IT RELATES TO PLANNING BOARD COMPOSITION AND PROCEDURES. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. NO. CAN WAIT FOR THE PUBLIC. CAN YOU JUST STATE WHAT THE ALRIGHT, AFTER THE FACT? SURE. THIS IS TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL ALTERNATE MEMBER. THAT'S ALL IT DOES. WELL, WEREN'T WE ORIGINALLY GONNA, UH, REDUCE THAT'S A DIFFERENT, THAT'S A DIFFERENT LOCAL LAW. SO BOTH, BOTH OBAMA HEARINGS CAN HAPPEN SEVEN NIGHT. YOU KNOW WHAT, THEN I I I'LL CHANGE MY, THAT'S WHY, AND I'LL VOTE FOR WELL, THAT'S WHY YOU SHOULD READ THINGS IN ADVANCE. YOU KNOW WHAT? STOP MAKING INSULTS. PLEASE. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST POINTING OUT, YOU KNOW, YOU VOTING FOR, YOU KNOW, ALL YOU DO [00:20:01] IS YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT FOR, OKAY. I, I'M VOTING YES. OKAY. IT'S REALLY SAD, PAUL. OKAY. WHAT FOR TB, YOU'RE SAD BECAUSE YOU'RE SO VINDICTIVE. IT'S SAD THAT YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU'RE VOTING FOR. FOR WHAT? YOU'RE VINDICTIVE. AND BASICALLY YOU'RE JUST ANGRY AT YOU TRY. YOU TRY. I'M ANGRY THAT WE HAVE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER WHO DOESN'T WANT TO DO AN ORDER. I'M ANGRY THAT YOU'RE SO, SO NASTY TO EVERYBODY. AND YOU'RE A BILLY, RIGHT? AND YOU'VE ALWAYS BEEN A BILLY. RIGHT? DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE SPECIAL MEETING? WELL, I, BEFORE I.ONE, BECAUSE I KNEW THE SUPERVISOR DIDN'T WANNA DO A FORENSIC AUDIT, IT'S NOT AUTHORIZING THE SUPERVISOR TO SIGN THE CONTRACT. 'CAUSE I KNOW HE WOULDN'T DO THAT. I'LL SIGN IT INSTEAD. INSTEAD IT SAYS A TOWN BOARD MEMBER. IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE BOARD, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SIGN IT SECOND. PATRICK SECOND. YEAH, I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION. ACTUALLY, I SHOULD MAKE THE MOTION FOR MYSELF TO SIGN IT. MOTION. I WILL MAKE THE MOTION THAT AS PER THE RELU RESOLUTION, TB ONE, UM, DICTATING THAT A TOWN BOARD MEMBER CAN SIGN THIS RESOLUTION AND SIGN THE CONTRACT. CONTRACT. YEAH. THIS CONTRACT, UM, I PROPOSE THAT FRANCIS SHEEN BE THE DESIGNATED TOWN BOARD MEMBER TO SIGN THE CONTRACT. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ALRIGHT, ARE WE GONNA, UH, COUNCILMAN SHEEN? UM, YOU WANTED TO ME TO MAKE NOTE REGARDING, UM, CL ONE AND THE, UM, THE, UH, PRELIMINARY BUDGET. RIGHT? UH, DO WE HAVE COPIES YET? UH, NO. THE COPIES ARE NOT COMPLETED. THEY ARE ONLINE, BUT THE COPIES THAT I, MY OFFICE IS TO PRESENT TO THE BOARD IS NOT READY YET. OKAY, SO YOU'LL DO THAT BY NOVEMBER 10TH? CORRECT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEED A MOTION TO CLOSE THE SPECIAL MEETING? I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE SPECIAL MEETING. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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