[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 CATHERINE LEDERER-PLASKETT Chair ]
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HI, TODAY IS THE 9TH OF SEPTEMBER, 2025.THIS IS THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD MEETING IN A PUBLICLY AVAILABLE SPACE AT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG IN THE LEE F JACKSON ROOM.
IT IS 1:00 PM AND, UM, LET ME TAKE ATTENDANCE.
CATHERINE LALAS HERE AND WITH US.
WE ALSO HAVE OUR BOARD LIAISON, FRANCIS SHEEN, PRESENT WHO, AND WE HAVE PAUL COSTA FROM CROWN CASTLE PRESENT, AND WE SHALL GET STARTED.
WE ARE REVIEWING A SUBMISSION FOR BY CROWN CASTLE ON BEHALF OF T-MOBILE FOR 1 55 HIGHLAND ROAD.
THE FIRST SUBMISSION WAS ON THE 12 IN DECEMBER 10TH, 2024.
WE CONVENED SIX DAYS LATER ON THE 16TH OF DECEMBER, 2024 FOR A MEETING.
AND IT WAS MARKED INCOMPLETE ON THE SEC.
THE SECOND SUBMISSION WAS, UH, FOUR, MORE THAN FOUR MONTHS LATER WAS ON APRIL 7TH, 2025.
WE MET ON THE, UH, 10TH OF APRIL.
THREE DAYS LATER WAS MARKED INCOMPLETE.
THE NEXT SUBMISSION WAS THE FOLLOWING MONTH, ON THE 6TH OF MAY, 2025.
WE MET SIX DAYS LATER ON THE 12TH OF MAY.
THEN TWO MONTHS LATER, A SUBMISSION ON THE 7TH OF JULY.
WE CONVENED ON THE 14TH OF JULY, 20 25, 7 DAYS LATER.
AND WE GRANTED IT AN A CONDITIONAL COMPLETENESS, WHICH WAS TO, AND WE LET THE APPLICANT CHOOSE THE DATE BY WHICH IT WAS GOING TO BE SUBMITTED.
UM, THAT WAS TO BE SUBMITTED BY THE 21ST OF JULY, 2025.
CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON THE 18TH OF JULY.
UM, WE RECEIVED A SUBMISSION, WHICH WAS REVIEWED BY THE 21ST OF JULY, AND DEEMED INCOMPLETE AT THE REQUEST OF ONE OF THE STAFF MEMBERS WHO WAS, UM, WROTE US BECAUSE THE PERSON REPRESENTING THE APPLICATION WAS ON VACATION.
WE EXTENDED IT BY A DATE, WHICH WE HAD NEVER DONE BEFORE TO THE 22ND CLOSE OF BUSINESS ON THE 22ND OF JULY, 2022, UH, 2025.
AND MATERIALS WERE SUBMITTED BY THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS.
THEY WERE REVIEWED AND DEEMED INCOMPLETE.
AND THE CONDITIONAL COMPLETE INCOMPLETE, CONDITIONAL, INCOMPLETE, THE CONDITIONAL COMPLETE STATUS HAD TIME ALLOCATION HAD BEEN, UM, RUN OUT.
SO WE DEEMED IT, WE AGREED TO MEET SO THAT WE COULD GO OVER WHAT WAS NOT PROVIDED, WHICH WE DID.
UM, AND ON THE, WE MET ON THE 4TH OF AUGUST AND EXPLAINED WHAT THE OMISSIONS WERE.
AND ON THE 3RD OF SEPTEMBER, 2025, WE RECEIVED A SUBMISSION.
AND THIS IS THE 9TH OF SEPTEMBER, AND WE ARE HERE TO, IN 20 25, 6 DAYS LATER, AND WE'RE HERE TO REVIEW IT.
WHAT WAS THE, WE ARE ONLY LOOKING AT WHAT WAS DEEMED INCOMPLETE.
SO A, B, C AND D HAD BEEN DEEMED COMPLETE, E HAD BEEN DEEMED COMPLETE.
WHAT WAS INCOMPLETE WAS F WE DID NOT HAVE ANY ADDRESS OR IDENTIFICATION ON THE LIST.
UM, AND REQUIRED THAT AND ASKED THAT ALL THE, ALL THE ADDRESSES BE PROVIDED, UM, WHICH IN THE APPLICATION, WE CANNOT REFER TO THE LETTER THAT WAS SUBMITTED BECAUSE THE LETTER IS NOT PART OF THE APPLICATION.
ALTHOUGH ONE LINE THAT IS IN THE LETTER WOULD'VE BEEN GREAT IF IT HAD BEEN IN THE APPLICATION.
BUT, UM, THE LETTER IS NOT PART OF THE APPLICATION.
IT'S, NO, IT'S NOT THAT YOU COULD OMIT THE WHOLE LETTER.
THIS LETTER IS NOT, THIS IS NOT THE APPLICATION.
THIS IS THE LEGALLY, THIS IS THE LEGAL DOCUMENT.
THIS IS WHAT SOMEONE WRITES TO SAY HI.
SO F ACTUALLY PROVIDES THE INFORMATION.
IT SHOWS THE, UM, THE LAST LINE PROVIDES THE INFORMATION.
THE, UM, EXHIBIT 12 SHOWS THAT THE NODE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS APPLICATION IS CONTRACTED BETWEEN, UM, CROWN CASTLE AND T-MOBILE.
WHAT THAT ACTUALLY DOES IS PROVIDE THE ADDRESSES WE REQUIRED SO THAT WE ACTUALLY KNEW WHAT THE SITE WAS AND THAT, THAT THE, UM, AND IS IN A DOCUMENT THAT PROVIDES THAT INFORMATION.
SO IF YOU TURN TO EXHIBIT 12, THE LAST PAGE OF THE APPLICATION OF THE DOCUMENT ITSELF PROVIDES TABLE A AND THE SITE IS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE YELLOW.
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SO IN MY OPINION, IT IS NOW COMPLETE.
IF ANYBODY SEES SOMETHING THAT WE HAD REQUIRED, IDENTIFY THE SITE ON THE CONTRACT BY ADDRESS, WHICH IT HAS DONE.
SO IS THERE ANYBODY OBJECTING TO THAT? NO.
THEY GAVE US WHAT WE ASKED FOR.
LMN ONE, TWO, AND THREE WERE COMPLETE.
AND WHAT WAS OUTSTANDING IS WE NEEDED ON S UM, WHERE THE, WHERE THE TOWN SIGN WAS ON THE POST AND THE SIGN POST.
AND IT TELLS US, IF YOU GO TO S IT ACTUALLY IDENTIFIES WHAT PAGE TO LOOK AT.
UM, IT'S ALWAYS, THEY DIDN'T DO IT, BUT WHAT'S HELPFUL IS IF THE PAGES ARE NUMBERED, BUT THEY'RE NOT.
SO IF YOU GO TO THE SECOND TO LAST PAGE BEFORE EXHIBIT, UH, ONE, IT HAS THE ANSWER TO S AND IT SAYS, LOOK AT EXHIBIT ONE, SHEET FOUR OF EIGHT, WHICH IS ON YOUR DRAWINGS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE COLUMN ABOVE ON THE RIGHT, THE SECOND TO RIGHT COLUMN, THE RIGHT COLUMN HAS THE STAMP.
IT SAYS, NUMBER 12 SAYS NOTICE AND CROWN CASTLE SIGNS TO BE TO BE MOUNTED, WHERE IT IS EASILY VISIBLE TO WORKERS AT EIGHT AND IT COMES DOWN TO EIGHT FEET, 10 INCHES FROM THE GROUND.
UM, AND THE CAUTION SIGN IS ACTUALLY MOUNTED HIGHER.
BUT THAT INCLUDES OUR SOUND, WHICH IS SIGN, WHICH THEY CALL CROWN CASTLE.
WHAT I, SO THAT IS ANSWERED WHAT IS NOT, AND THEN LET'S GET TO THAT APPLIED TO T ALSO.
BUT SO S IS COMPLETE BY, THEY DID SHOW US ON THE DRAWING AS WELL.
IF YOU LOOK THAT IT SHOWS THAT THE PROPOSED NOTICE IN CROWN CASTLE ITSELF POINTS TO THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THEY STATE IN THIS IS THAT THEY CAN'T USE ALUMINUM, WHICH, OR STAINLESS STEEL, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE.
HOWEVER, IT WOULD BE, I THOUGHT I HAD READ BUT COULD NOT FIND AGAIN WHERE THEY SAY IT'S PLASTIC.
SO WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL, BECAUSE WE KNOW YOU'RE COMING IN WITH 17 MORE APPLICATIONS, IS THAT YOU CITE THAT WE WON'T HOLD THIS UP BECAUSE T DOES SAY STAINLESS STEEL OR ALUMINUM, UNLESS YOU CAN TELL ME WHERE A PLASTIC IS HERE.
I DON'T HAVE TO MENTION IT, BUT GOING FORWARD, OKAY.
I MEAN, IT'S GONNA BE A STICKER.
IT'S REALLY HELPFUL IF YOU THEN TELL US WHAT IT'S MADE OF BECAUSE WE SPECIFICALLY STATE THAT AND YOU, AND MAYBE IT'S THERE, BUT I'M NOT SEEING IT.
SO IN ALL FUTURE APPLICATIONS, I WANTED ON THE RECORD, WE WANT CLEARLY WHAT IT'S GONNA BE MADE OF AND HOW IT'S
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GONNA ADHERE BECAUSE IS IT GONNA BE A STICKER THAT CAN EASILY WASH OFF IN THE RAIN OR HOW, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WE PUT STAINLESS STEEL OR ALUMINUM BEFORE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS GONNA WITHSTAND WEATHER.SO IF IT'S A STICKER, HOW DO WE KNOW THAT IT WITHSTANDS WEATHER? WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO, UM, PROVE THAT? I MEAN, WE HAVE STICKERS UP THERE THAT YOU CAN GO LOOK AT 'EM NOW AND THEY'RE UP THERE.
I MEAN, WELL IS WHEN YOU BUY THEM, IS THERE A WARRANTY THAT'S PROVIDED WITH THAT OR SOMETHING? CAN YOU FIND OUT FOR THE, THERE'S NO WARRANTY THAT SAYS THIS WILL STAY ON THE THING FOR X AMOUNT OF DAYS.
UM, IT'S JUST AN A STICKER ADHESIVE.
UM, ANY SUGGESTIONS, MR. SHEEN? WHEN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, UM, ACTUALLY ISSUES THE PERMIT, THEY CAN CONDITION IT ON THAT, THAT, UH, IF THE THING IS NO LONGER READABLE OR NOT LONGER THERE, IT HAS TO BE REPLACED.
IT'S A REQUIREMENT OF THE CODE.
IN THE FUTURE, PLEASE IDENTIFY IT AS A STICKER AND THEN WE CAN HAVE THEM WRITE THAT ON THE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, BRING IT TO THEIR ATTENTION.
SO WE WILL THEN PUT, DO YOU SEE ANY PLACE ON WHAT YOU SUBMITTED THAT SAYS STICKER? I'M LOOKING AT IT RIGHT NOW.
SO WE WILL, UH, MADE OF INDUSTRIAL GRADE ADHESIVE.
WHERE IS THAT PLACE? A SIGN MADE OF INDUSTRIAL GRADE ADHESIVE NEXT TO THE, IT'S ON T NEXT TO THE FCC REQUIRED SIGN IN SHROUD AND EXHIBIT.
IT'S ON THE SIGN WILL INCLUDE THE RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT.
I, I GUESS WE'LL PUT, IT'S A STICKER, THEN IT'S GOTTA BE MADE OF SOMETHING.
AND THEN THERE'S AN ADHESIVE PART OF THAT, RIGHT? YOU'RE WRITING ON AN ADHESIVE, YOU'RE WRITING ON SOME SURFACE, WHICH HAS AN ADHESIVE ON THE BACK OF IT.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DESCRIBE THE STICKER, BUT, WELL, I'M SURE SOMEBODY WHO BOUGHT IT CAN BUY, TAKE IT OFF THE LABEL AND FIGURE OUT HOW THEY SOLD IT.
YOU'RE JUST PUTTING THE APPLICATION TOGETHER.
SOMEBODY WHO PURCHASES THIS ITEM TO MAKE IT WORK MAY HAVE THE IDENTIFICATION INFORMATION FOR THE MANU FROM THE MANUFACTURER.
I JUST, I DON'T WANT, SO I WANT ON THE RECORD, MOVING FORWARD, NOT IN THIS APPLICATION, BUT MOVING FORWARD YOU WILL PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION.
THE MAKE AND MODEL OF THE ADHESIVE STICKER.
I, I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR, BUT I DON'T WANT TO SUBMIT THESE AND THEY COME BACK.
CAN I FINISH SPEAKING OR DO YOU JUST WANT TO SURE, GO AHEAD.
WHAT WE WANT IS WHAT THE MANUFACTURER DESCRIBES IT AS.
WHICH INCLUDES WHAT IT IS MADE OF AND HOW THEY ADHERE IT TO A SURFACE, HOW THEY ADHERE IT TO A SURFACE.
WHAT IS THE DEFINITION OF THAT STICK TO, OKAY, I, OKAY, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR.
IF WE SAY INDUSTRIAL GRADE ADHESIVE, IS THAT ENOUGH OR DO YOU NEED TO, AS MR. SHEEN POINTED OUT.
SO A POST-IT IS ADHESIVE TO SOMETHING, RIGHT? YES.
SO IF WE SAID A LAMINATE WITH INDUSTRIAL GRADE ADHESIVE, WHATEVER IT IS, WE DON'T KNOW IT IS A LAMINATE STICKER.
WELL, WE WOULDN'T KNOW 'CAUSE NOTHING'S HERE.
I JUST, FOR THE NEXT ONES, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION.
AND YOU'RE NOT BUYING IT ADHESIVE, RIGHT? HE STICKER.
INDICATE WHAT PAPER, WHAT IT, AND HOPEFULLY IT'S NOT MADE OF PAPER BECAUSE THAT WON'T, WOULD WITHSTAND THERE.
BUT THAT I'M JUST QUOTING YOU BACK WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
I SAID SO THE PURPOSE IS TO FIND OUT FROM THE MANUFACTURER WHAT IT'S MADE OF.
SO BASED ON THAT I'M WRITING IN THE FUTURE, ALL APPLICATIONS MUST INCLUDE WHAT SIGNAGE BE MADE OF? SIZE, INFORMATION, AND MANUFACTURER.
YOU WAS DEEMED COMPLETE BEFORE.
AND MR. SHEEN, IF YOU COULD CHECK THE SPELLING 'CAUSE THAT'S WHAT WAS MISSING ON THE INSURANCE.
SO THIS IS THE ONLY LANGUAGE ON HERE ADDED.
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I WISH EVERYBODY TO LOOK AT IT.WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS NOT ON THIS APPLICATION, BUT BECAUSE IT GETS VERY CONFUSING FOR OUR RESIDENTS WHEN WE SEE SOMETHING LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE APPROVING SCARSDALE IN TENNESSEE? RIGHT.
AND JUST WE'VE HAD THAT TOWN OF GREENBERG IS REALLY AWFUL AND HAVING AN IDENTITY.
AND SO IF YOU EITHER WANTED TO DO PO, SCARSDALE, NEW YORK 1 5 83 FOR WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE, OR BUT TOWN OF GREENBERG COUNTY, OF WHICH THERE'S THE COUNTY, TOWN OF GREENBERG, THE COUNTY.
WE HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THIS.
NOT BECAUSE IT'S SCARSDALE, BUT BECAUSE IT'S IN TOWN OF GREENBURG.
I MEAN THAT'S THE MAILING ADDRESS I KNOW.
UM, BUT IT, IT GETS TO BE CONFUSING.
SO ALL I'M JUST SAYING IS WHY DON'T YOU, WHY DON'T YOU LEAVE THIS LIKE THIS THAT YOU WANT AND JUST PUT TOWN OF GREENBURG COM WHERE IT'S JUST THE COUNTY.
DOES THAT MAILING ADDRESS MEANS IT'S IN WESTCHESTER COUNTY, BUT YOU'RE PRETTY MUCH JUST A COUNTY ANYWAY, RIGHT? SO WE MIGHT AS WELL PUT DOWN A GREENBURG.
SINCE WE'RE GONNA SEE 17 OF THESE.
WELL, THEY'RE NOT ALL GONNA BE THERE, RIGHT? SOME CAN, SOME ARE IN IRVINGTON IT'LL BE THE SAME.
SO JUST PUT, JUST PUT DOWN A GREEN ME OR WHITE PLAINS COULD DO THE SAME THING.
SO HOW MANY POST OFFICES? I SEE YOUR NAME IS MISSPELLED, MISSPELLED COVER LETTER.
I'M ALSO CHAIRMAN, BUT IT'S OKAY.
OH, IT'S SPELLED CORRECTLY IN THE SALUTATION BUT NOT IN THE INSIDE ADDRESS.
I BETTER HAVE A THICKER SKIN THEN.
SO YOU, ARE YOU DOING HERE? I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET.
YOU INTEND TO PUT THE WORD BE MADE OF INSTEAD OF JUST BE OF.
THIS ALSO, IF IT'S NOT HERE, WE'D LIKE BACK TO.
WELL, BECAUSE I STILL HAVE TO MARK IT COMPLETE.
DO UH, A MOTION TO, DO I HAVE A MOTION TO, UM, SORRY.
DEEMED THIS APPLICATION COMPLETE? I MIGHT, I DON'T MAKE THE MOTION.
DONNA, WILL YOU SECOND THE MOTION? SURE.
SO THIS APPLICATION IS DEEMED COMPLETE.
ARE THERE 17 ADDITIONAL ONES OR
OH, THERE ARE 17 ADDITIONAL ONES.
OH, THERE ARE 18 ADDITIONAL ONES.
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18.I AM GOING TO PAUSE AND SEE HOW TO DO THAT AND TAKE THIS UPSTAIRS.
SO I AM BACK FROM GETTING THEM STAMPED.
FRANCIS DOESN'T WANT ANY
ANYONE IS OPPOSED TO YOU? NEED TO VOTE.