[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 CATHERINE LEDERER-PLASKETT Chair ]
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TODAY IS THE 24TH OF OCTOBER, 2025.
A FULL HOUR AND TWO MINUTES PAST WHEN WE ANTICIPATED BEGINNING THIS MEETING BECAUSE WE HAD SERIOUS TECHNOLOGICAL PROBLEMS. UH OH.
DID THE WHOLE THING AGAIN? NO, NO.
THE LAST YOU DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING.
UM, UP UNTIL YOU GAVE THE DATE AND, OKAY.
IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR FIVE 30, BUT WE HAD TECHNOLOGICAL DIFFICULTIES.
UM, WE'RE HERE TO REVIEW THREE APPLICATIONS BY CROWN CASTLE ON BEHALF WITH T-MOBILE.
UM, AND WE HA I WANNA TAKE ATTENDANCE NOW.
DIANE TORRA, I CAN'T HEAR YOU.
WE HAVE A FORUM, UM, PRESENT AT THE TOWN HALL.
AND LAUREN, WHAT'S YOUR LAST NAME, SORRY? BIRD.
SO LET'S START WITH THE APPLICATION THAT'S IDENTIFIED AS 5 4 8 LEY ROAD.
UM, THAT THE APPLICATION STARTS WITH, UM, ONE AND IT ASK YOUR NAME, ADDRESS, AND QUALIFICATIONS OF PERSONS PREPARING THE REPORT AND HIS OR HER, UM, OR THEIR SIGNATURES ATTESTING TO THE TRUTH AND COMPLETENESS OF THE INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN THEREIN.
AND WE HAVE HERE, UM, THE STAMPS FOR THE FIRST TWO ENGINEERS, AND WE HAVE NO STAMP AND WE HAVE NO DATE OF SIGNATURE.
UM, FOR RAY CAP, WHICH IS AN ALSO AN ENGINEER.
AND WE NEED A, A STAMP THIS, WE WILL HAVE THAT SAME STATEMENT MADE IN THE OTHER TWO.
'CAUSE THE SITUATION IS THE SAME.
SO, SO I'M WRITING NAME, NEED, NEEDS STAMP ENGINEER, UM, DENNIS AND I CAN'T PRONOUNCE HIS LAST NAME.
AND TWO, IT ASKS IN THE QUESTION FOR THE NAMES, ADDRESSES, AND LANDLINE AND CELLULAR PHONE NUMBERS OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS, OPERATORS, AND APPLICANTS.
WE DO NOT HAVE AN APPLICANT PROVIDED HERE AND HAVE AN ADDITIONAL QUESTION.
ACTUALLY, IF I LOOK AT THE PLANS, I'M NOT SURE WHO O WHO OWNS THE POLL.
IT SAYS THE VERIZON POLL NUMBER IS SEVEN SIX.
THIS ISN'T THE NEXT ANSWER, BUT IF I GO TO THE DRAWINGS, THIS IS THE ONE.
IT SAYS ON THE DRAWINGS CONED SECONDARY.
IT DOESN'T HAVE ON THE DRAWINGS THAT I CAN SEE THAT IT IDENTIFIES AS THE POLL OWNED BY VERIZON.
SO, UM, IF I MAY JUST SHOW YOU ON PAGE NINE OF THE DRAWING, UH, OF THE, THE FIRST PAGE OF THE DRAWING, UM, UNDER THE MAP, YOU SEE I, I'M SORRY, PAGE NINE OF THE DRAWINGS PA PAGE NINE OF, OF THE ENTIRE PACKAGE.
ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S A NINTH PAGE FOR THE ZONING? NO, NO, I'M SORRY.
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SO FIRST OF PAGE OF THE DRAWING.AND WHAT AM I LOOKING AT? UNDERNEATH THE VICINITY MAP, IT SHOULD SAY PROJECT INFORMATION AND IT WILL LIST THE, UM, COMPANY VERIZON.
BUT IT DOESN'T TELL US WHO OWNS THE POLE.
IT SAYS TELEPHONE COMPANY AND ELECTRIC COMPANY.
IT DOESN'T SAY THE POLE IS OWNED BY X.
SO YOU NEED IT LISTED AS POLE OWNER AND IT WOULD BE IDENTIFIED ON THE DRAWING BECAUSE IT'S PARTICULARLY CONFUSING WITH THE CONED REFERENCES ON IT, ON THE DRAWINGS.
AND WE REQUIRE IDENTIFICATION OF OWNERSHIP AS PART OF THE DRAWINGS.
THAT'S WHAT IS LISTED IN OUR CODE.
AND YOU'LL, WE'LL GET TO THAT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN IN THIS.
AND SO BETTER TO CATCH IT NOW.
SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT VERIZON DOES OWN THE POLE AND THAT CON EDISON JUST HAS THINGS ON THE POLE.
CORRECT? THEY WILL BE THE ELECTRIC COMPANY ON ALL OF THOSE POLES.
BUT SOME OF THE POLES ARE OWNED BY CON ED, CORRECT? YES.
SO, OKAY, SO WE NEED TO KNOW, UM, ON, ON B WE NEED TO KNOW, UM, WE NEED THE, I'M SORRY, WE NEED THE APPLICANT, RIGHT, WHICH WE DON'T HAVE HERE LATER.
WE'LL GET TO THE POINT OF WHO OWNS THE POLL IN THE DRAWINGS AND THE SPECIFICATIONS.
SO THEN WE HAVE POSTAL ADDRESS AND SHEET BLOCK AND LOT OF PARCEL NUMBER OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, I FOUND THIS PARTICULARLY CONFUSING BECAUSE THIS IS HAULED ON MY BINDER.
AND ON THE DRAWINGS IT SAYS 5 36 THROUGH 5 52 ARDSLEY ROAD.
AND IN THE BACK 12 OF 12, IT GIVES THE 5 36 THROUGH 5 52 LEY ROAD.
WE NEED TO KNOW THE PROPERTY THAT IT'S LOCATED ON.
THAT MAY BE THE NAME YOU USE, BUT WE NEED A SOMETHING TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT'S SOME INTERNAL CODE FOR YOU.
I'M ASSUMING THAT'S WHAT IT IS.
SO THE ADDRESS 5 36, IT'S LISTING 5 36 THROUGH 5 52.
SO I THINK THAT'S WHERE, AND 5 48 IS BETWEEN 5 36, 5 52.
SO IF YOU, AGAIN, HOW DID, I'M SORRY.
NO, SO IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR US TO CHANGE, SO IT'S MATCHING TO 5 48 AND CONSISTENT THROUGHOUT, WE CAN, WE CAN MAKE THAT CHANGE.
YOU LOOK, FRANCIS, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? NO QUESTION.
UM, WE NEED IT TO BE CONSISTENT AND WE, IF, IF YOU'RE, AND, AND WE NEED IDENTIFICATION OF IT BEING 5 48, BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THIS IS A LONG STRETCH.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT STRETCH IT IS.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE THAT MANY NUMBERS AS AN OPTION.
ALL, ALL IT TELLS ME IS, IS ON A PARTICULAR SIDE OF THE STREET, RIGHT? BECAUSE OF WITH EVENS VERSUS ODDS, RIGHT? IS IT DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF I 48? SO I THINK THAT'S THE CLOSEST ADDRESS THAT BECAUSE IT'S A POLE, IT SOMETIMES DOES NOT HAVE A DIRECT ASSOCIATED ADDRESS.
UM, SO A LOT OF TIMES IT WILL BE THE CLOSEST ADDRESS.
UM, SO I'M GUESSING 5 48 WAS THE CLOSEST.
SO WHY WOULD THEY, SO WHY WOULD THEY GIVE YOU A RANGE OF 5 36 TO 5 52? I, I'M GUESSING BECAUSE IT WASN'T AS CL IT WASN'T AS SPECIFIC.
THEY WERE, THEY WEREN'T THAT SPECIFIC.
WE SHOULD KNOW THE ACTUAL POLL AND NOT A POLL IN THE AREA.
THEY PROVIDE THE POLL NUMBER, BUT THE POLL NUMBER SHOULD BE CLOSEST TO A SPECIFIC ADDRESS.
AND IF YOU KNOW, AND IF IT'S EQUIDISTANT BETWEEN TWO PROPERTIES, THEN THEY SHOULD SAY IT'S EQUIDISTANT BETWEEN TWO.
BUT THIS IS MULTIPLE ADDRESSES ON LEY ROAD.
I'M GOING TO MARKETING COMPLETE.
AND THE ADD ADDRESS, I WROTE THE ADDRESS ON THE PLANS AND EXHIBIT 12 DI ARE, UH, ARE DIFFERENT.
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AN EXPLANATION IF IT IS NOT, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO WRITE THIS.IF IT'S EQUAL DISTANT OR WE NEED A SPECIFIC ADDRESS, I SHOULD JUST STOP.
THE CLOSEST ADDRESS TO THE PHONE.
THE GIS THE NEXT ONE READS GI ON, ON OUR QUESTION, NOT ON THE WAY IT WAS WRITTEN.
AND IT SAYS GIS AND XY COORDINATES SHOWING THE LOCATION OF THE WIRELESS FACILITY.
YOU PROVIDED THE GIS, IT WAS THE GIS COORDINATES.
UM, WHICH IS FINE, BUT WE NEED THE FULL UNABRIDGED QUESTION ANSWERED.
WE NEED YOU TO WRITE OUT WHAT IS PROVIDED HERE.
IS SOMEONE EDITED IT, THEY SAID GIS COORDINATES SHOWING THE LOCATION.
DO YOU SEE THAT WE NEED IN ALL FUTURE, IN ALL I MARKED IT, WE ARE MARKING IT COMPLETE MM-HMM
BUT IN ALL FUTURE APPLICATIONS YOU NEED TO HAVE THE FULL, UM, FULL QUESTION.
UM, THE ZONING IS R 20, THAT'S THE NEXT QUESTION.
ZONING, WHICH IS R 20, WHICH IS THERE.
THE INSTALLATION IS PURSUANT TO A LEASE AGREEMENT, CO CONFIRMATION FROM THE LEASE OR THAT THE LEASE IS AUTHORIZED TO UTILIZE THE POLL.
AND GUYS, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING MISSING, PLEASE JUMP IN AND TELL ME THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU SEE IT DIFFERENTLY.
UM, WE HAVE EVERYTHING IS FINE UP UNTIL, AND THIS COMES TO THE ADDRESS AGAIN BECAUSE IF YOU READ YOUR ANSWER IT SAYS, UM, IT'S ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT 12 SHOWS THE NO NODE ASSOCIATED WITH THIS APPLICATION IS, IS CONTRACTED BETWEEN CROWN CASTLE AND T-MOBILE.
BUT IF YOU GO TO THAT PAGE, THAT PAGE MARKS IT AS 5 36 TO 5 52.
SO WE NEED THAT GOES TO THE SPECIFIC ADDRESS.
SO ONCE EXHIBIT 12 IS CHANGED CORRECT.
AND THAT WOULD CORRECT THAT BECAUSE WE WORK VERY HARD TO GET ALL THESE ELEMENTS TOGETHER IN THE LAST APPLICATION.
AND NOW YOU HAVE ACTUALLY THE SEQUENCE TO THEM AND IT WORKS.
BUT WE NEED THE, UM, THAT MAKES SENSE.
THAT I WROTE DOWN CORRECT ADDRESS IN EXHIBIT 12.
DO YOU KNOW IF THIS IS A NEW POLE OR AN OLD POLE? I MEAN THE LAST, WHEN WE JUST DID ONE, IT WAS FOR 1 55.
DO YOU KNOW IF THEY'RE REPLACING A POLE? HERE, LET ME TAKE A LOOK.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE WILL NOT, IT DOES NOT NEED TO BE REPLACED, SO IT'LL BE MAY.
SO THEN THE DESCRIPTION, AT LEAST FOR ME WAS COMPLETE.
UM, I ACTUALLY SENT THE QUESTION TO THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE A, AN UH, ANSWER TO THIS QUESTION.
UM, YOU PROVIDED A, BECAUSE THE PROPOSED FACILITY, THIS IS ASKS FOR A C OF O FOR UTILITY TO POLL IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE PRO PROVIDE THE, UM, POLL OWNER'S NAME AND ADDRESSES AS WELL AS IDENTIFICATION FOR THE POLL.
IT ALSO SAYS THE PROPOSED FACILITY DID NOT RECEIVE A BUILDING PERMIT, UM, OR SUBSEQUENT CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT SEVEN IS THE RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT OBTAINED TO, UM, BUILD THE SITE.
I WROTE THE BUILDING INSPECTOR ASKING IF THERE WAS ANY POST
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INSPECTION AND I DID NOT YET RECEIVE AN ANSWER.UM, I WILL LET YOU KNOW BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO PROVIDE.
SO WE WILL, UH, HOPEFULLY HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE WEEK.
AND I CAN LET YOU KNOW IF THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER DOCUMENT.
BECAUSE YOU DID PROVIDE THE O OPEN, UM, OPEN STREET, STREET OPENING.
AND SO IF THAT, IF THEY SHOULD HAVE PROVIDED SOMETHING, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE THAT.
BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT EXISTS.
SO I'M NOT FILLING IN H ACTUALLY I WROTE, I MARKED IT AS COMPLETE 'CAUSE YOU PROVIDED SOMETHING, BUT IF THERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT IT, UM, I WILL LET YOU KNOW.
WELL, WHAT I WROTE HERE IS IF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG PROVIDES A POST-WORK INSPECTION, WE WILL PROVIDE THE DOCUMENT.
THAT WAY WE CAN GO, WE HAVE A LOT COMING OUR WAY AND WE'LL KNOW MM-HMM
THE NEXT THING IS IF THE TOWN, IF YOU'RE ONLY PROVIDING SERVICE TO T-MOBILE AND YOU SAY YOU ARE PROVIDING ONLY SERVICE, THERE'S A LATER ONE THAT COMES UP AND YOU'RE PROVIDING TO BOTH VERIZON AND T-MOBILE IN A DIFFERENT ONE OF ONE OF THE THREE WE'RE REVIEWING.
COULD YOU JUST CONFIRM THERE'S NO VERIZON PROVIDING SERVICE ON THIS? CORRECT? YES.
JAY, YOU DIRECT US TO EXHIBIT TWO.
THIS IS A LINE THAT I, THAT WE ONLY FOUND IN THIS, UM, APPLICATION.
IT SAYS NB AND C RECOMMENDS THAT THE POLL OWNER PERFORM A CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND EVALUATE THE NEED.
SO THAT TO ME SAYS THAT MAYBE IT'S, DO YOU SEE IT, FRANCIS? MM-HMM.
WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT? THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED BEFORE THEY SUBMITTED THE OTHER TWO.
SAY THAT IT'S FINE, BUT THIS ONE SAYS THAT SOMETHING SHOULD BE CHECKED.
SO IT'S NOT OUR JOB REALLY TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT IT'S SAFE.
OUR JOB IS TO SAY IS ADHERE, BUT THE COMPLETE DOCUMENTATION IS NOT HERE.
SO HOW DO WE WELL HOW DO YOU READ THAT? IS IT THAT WHO'S, WHO'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE DETERMINING WHETHER OR NOT THE, THE, THE POLL IS STRUCTURALLY ADEQUATE? AND WHEN, I'M SORRY, I, I GUESS I'M NOT FOLLOWING IN THE STATEMENT WHERE IT SAYS, OKAY, IF YOU LOOK AT PAGE FOUR OF SEVEN AND EXHIBIT WHATEVER TWO.
THE WAY IT READS IS IT SAYS THE POLL WILL BE STRESSED TO A MAXIMUM OF 80.8% OF ITS DESIGN CAPACITY.
THE EXISTING GUY, WIRE AND GUY ANCHOR ARE STRESSED TO 91.1% AND 74.3% OF THEIR THEORETICAL CAPACITIES RESPECTIVELY.
AND B AND C RECOMMENDS THAT THE POLL OWNER PERFORM A CONDITIONS ASSESSMENT AND EVALUATE THE NEED FOR A POLE REPLACEMENT DUE TO CONDITION MAINTENANCE AND SERVICEABILITY.
SO BASICALLY THEY HAVEN'T CONDUCTED FOR THIS SPECIFIC POLL, THIS DOESN'T COME UP.
THIS LINE DOES NOT APPEAR IN EITHER OF THE OTHER TWO APPLICATIONS.
ARE WE STILL LOOKING AT, UM, 5 48 LEY? WE'RE STILL ON THE SAME ONE.
WE, UNFORTUNATELY WE DON'T GET TO GO FASTER THAN THIS.
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I WISH WE DID.NO, I JUST, I I'M JUST NOT SEEING THAT, THAT STATEMENT OR IN THE CONCLUSIONS? IT'S IN BOLD.
AND IT'S IN FIVE OH, CONCLUSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON PAGE FOUR OF SEVEN.
SO WE DON'T REALLY HAVE AN ASSESSMENT HERE.
UM, SO I BELIEVE THIS REFERS TO WHEN WE WALK THE LOCATION WITH CON ED AND VERIZON, AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT DETERMINE WHETHER THERE POLE NEEDS TO BE REPLACED.
SO THIS QUESTION, THIS SPECIFIC QUESTION, AND THIS IS INTERESTING TO ME BECAUSE IT'S ONLY IN THIS ONE, IT DOESN'T APPEAR IN THE OTHER TWO APPLICATIONS, THIS SENTENCE.
UM, SO IT SEEMS TO ME THAT IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY CERTIFY THAT IT IS, THAT IT HAS STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY.
IT'S SAYING THAT THE POLL OWNER NEEDS TO ESTABLISH THAT.
SO WHAT YOU NEED IS A LETTER FROM THE, FROM YOU SAID THIS IS VERIZON SAYING WE ARE OR WE ARE NOT REPLACING THE POLL.
IT'S STRONG ENOUGH, RIGHT? YEAH.
SO WHEN, WHEN THIS NBNC DOES THEIR CALCULATIONS, THEY'RE THEY ARE, AND I AGREE THAT IT'S PROB IT'S COULD BE CLEARER OR COULD BE, UH, REVISED TO BE CLEARER, MORE CLEAR.
UM, WHEN THEY DO THEIR ANALYSIS, THEY'RE LOOKING AT WHETHER THE POLL IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND.
I THINK WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN THEY ARE REFERENCING THE POLL OWNER PERFORM A CONDITION ASSESSMENT, THEY'RE REFERRING TO CLEARANCES OR CERTAIN CRITERIA THAT THE POLL OWNER WOULD BE REVIEWING.
NOT NOT ON A STRUCTURAL OR, UM, IT, WHERE WOULD IT IMPACT THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY OF THE POLE, BUT FOR OTHER REASONS, THERE COULD BE A NEED FOR A POLE REPLACEMENT THAT WOULD BE DETERMINED BY THE POLE OWNER.
SO STRUCTURALLY OUR IS SAYING IT IS, IT IS ADEQUATE FOR OUR EQUIPMENT FOR WHAT WE HAVE PROPOSED.
I DON'T KNOW WHY THEY, AGAIN, I I CAN GET CLARIFICATION WHY THEY ADDED THAT LINE IN THERE IF IT HASN'T SHOWN UP IN OTHER PLACES.
UM, BECAUSE THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE MORE FOR THE CLEARANCE ISSUE OR THE UTILITY POLE OWNER THAT WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER A POLE REPLACEMENT IS NEEDED.
I READ IT A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY.
I READ IT WHERE THE EXISTING G WIRE AND GUY ANCHOR THAT'S WITHOUT THE NEW EQUIPMENT, THE EXISTING IS STRESSED TO 91.1%.
AND IT SEEMS TO BE SAYING THAT ONCE THE EQUIPMENT IS INSTALLED, SOMEBODY NEEDS TO CHECK TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT NEEDS A REPLACEMENT.
WHATEVER IT IS, IT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.
YEAH, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE EXISTING G WIRE.
THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE POLL ITSELF.
SO I THINK THAT I I AGREE, BUT THE POLL THE STRUCTURE I AGREE.
AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL IF SOMEBODY DETERMINES AFTER THE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT IS ADDED TO IT, ONE WOULD BE THE PRESENTED.
WHAT I'M WRITING HERE, I'M GONNA READ IT TO SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S CLEAR.
I WROTE CLARIFY THE BOLD SENTENCE ON PAGE FOUR OF SEVEN IN EXHIBIT TWO.
AND THEN IN QUOTES, N-B-C-N-B-N-C RECOMMENDS THAT THE POLL OWNER, AND THEN I JUST WROTE DOT, DOT, DOT RATHER THAN WRITING OUT THE ENTIRE SENTENCE.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE CLARIFICATION OF WHAT
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THAT IS.WHAT IS INTENDED BY THAT? DID YOU THINK IT SHOULD BE WRITTEN DIFFERENTLY? SHOULD BE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD LEAVE DO DOT DOWN ON YOUR SHEET THOUGH.
IT'S SOMETHING I CAN WRITE OVER IT.
YOU WANT ME TO WRITE WHOLE SENTENCE? YES, CATHERINE.
HOMEOWNER LITTLE SQUEEZED IN, BUT CLARIFY THE BO THE SHOULD BE THE SENTENCING BOLD, THE BOLD SENTENCE ON PAGE FOUR OF SEVEN IN EXHIBIT 12.
UM, QUOTE, N-B-C-N-B AND C RECOMMENDS THAT THE POLL OWNER PERFORM A CONDITION ASSESSMENT AND EVALUATE THE NEED FOR POLL REPLACEMENT DUE TO CONDITION MAINTENANCE AND SERVICEABILITY.
THE MAKE MODEL AND MANUFACTURER OF THE ANTENNAS TO IS, UH, IS COMPLETE.
THAT'S K THE FREQUENCY MODULATION AND CLASS OF SERVICE OF RADIO EQUIPMENT, UM, IS COMPLETE QUESTION FOR YOU.
IT SAYS, AND IT EXPLAINED A LITTLE, UM, A LITTLE LATER.
I MEAN IT WAS, IT'S EXPLAINED IN THAT TO SAY THE LOCATION WAS SELECTED BY THE CUSTOMER, BROWN DID NOT, DID NOT PERFORM ANY CAPACITY ANALYSIS.
THE 4G AND 5G CLASS OF SERVICE COMPLIED, UM, I'M SORRY, THE 4G AND 5G CLASS OF SERVICE SIMPLY DENOTES THAT THE ANTENNAS CAN PROVIDE SERVICE FOR BOTH 4G AND 5G WIRELESS TECHNOLOGY DEVICES.
THE PREVIOUS EQUIPMENT COULD ONLY PROVIDE SERVICE FOR 4G UH, 4G DEVICES.
SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT THEY'LL BE PROVIDING BOTH AT THE SAME TIME? CORRECT.
I THINK THAT I READ SOMETHING WE WILL GET TO IT.
SOMETHING ABOUT IT ONLY REFERENCING FIVE GEN AT ANOTHER POINT IN THE APPLICATION.
AND THAT WAS CONFUSING TO ME THAT WHERE IT'S REFERENCED HERE IS FOUR GEN AND FIVE GEN.
IT ONLY TALKS ABOUT FIVE GEN LATER.
M THE NUMBER TYPE AND DESIGN OF ANTENNAS PROPOSED IS COMPLETE AND NOW WE'RE AT THE NEAR LEVEL.
AND IT WAS PART OF WHERE ALL THE CONFUSION ALSO SETS IN.
UM, U TABLE SHOWING THE FREQUENCY.
UM, THE PROPOSED FACILITY MEETS THE NEAR END FCC EMISSIONS LEVELS.
PLEASE SEE THE ATTACHED RF EMISSIONS REPORT.
EXHIBIT THREE, A TABLE SHOWING THE RADIO FREQUENCY DROP OFF IS PRESENT ON, IN, I'M ASSUMING IT'S IN EXHIBIT THREE, NOT ON EXHIBIT.
THE TABLE IS LOCATED DIRECTLY AFTER THE FINAL PAGE OF EXHIBIT THREE.
PAGE 13 OF 13, PAGE NUMBER 13.
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AND I WROTE, IS THIS FOR 5G OR 4G BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THIS EMISSIONS LEVEL DETERMINED BY? BECAUSE ISN'T 5G DOESN'T 5G HAVE HIGHER EMISSIONS THAN 4G.SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASING THIS ANALYSIS OFF OF THE, UM, OFF THE FREQUENCY BANDS THAT THEY'RE PER THEY'RE ON.
AND THEN ALSO THE EQUIPMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE THE RADIOS THAT ARE GOING TO BE WITHIN THE CABINET.
SO IT'S THE 5G 4G 5G, UM, THAT IS REFERENCED.
UM, CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND, YOU HAVE A GRAPH HERE? I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT IT MEANS.
UM, IT IS PAGE 12 OF 13, HOW TO READ THAT AND WHERE WE WOULD SEE THE STATEMENT THREE POINT 33%.
WHERE ARE WE? EXHIBIT THREE? IT'S EXHIBIT THREE AND I TOWARDS THE BACK, UM, THIS ONE.
THIS IS THE TECH PERSON WE DIDN'T HAVE EARLIER.
YOU SORRY, I WAS AT THE ADELL HOUSE OR THE WE'LL GO OUTSIDE.
SO YOU, YOU NEED ME, YOU DON'T NEED FRANCIS AT THE MOMENT.
SO WHAT, WHAT GRAPH ARE HERE? I, I'M ASSUMING YOU SEE ME, I SEE.
SO CAN YOU SEE THIS ONE? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS
I CAN'T SEE, I CAN'T TURN, TURN TO YOUR, OKAY.
IT SAYS AT THE TOP IT SAYS, IT SAYS ON A PAGE, UH, THE BOTTOM.
AND THEN THERE'S 13 OF 13 THE SAME.
SO THIS IS THIS, THIS GRAPH IS REPRESENTING THE, I BELIEVE THESE ARE ALL THE DIFFERENT BANDS, RIGHT? SO THERE'S A 2100 MEGAHERTZ BAND, A 1900 MEGAHERTZ BAND, AND THEN A 25 MEGAHERTZ BAND.
YOU JUST DISCONNECTED, RIGHT? CORRECT.
YOU STILL HEAR IT? I CAN STILL HEAR YOU.
SO ON PAGE, THAT'S WHAT THOSE THREE GRAPHS ARE REPRESENTING IS THE DIFFERENT BANDS THAT IT'S REFERRED TO IN THE TABLE.
SO THIS IS THIS, THESE GRAPHS ARE SHOWING AT, UM, I BELIEVE THIS IS GROUND LEVEL WHAT THE MAXIMUM EXPOSURE IS AT GROUND LEVEL BREAKING OUT BETWEEN ALL THOSE THREE VANS OF WHAT THE MAXIMUM EXPOSURE LIMIT IS FROM THE GROUND AND FROM THE WATERFORD.
I SEE THAT IT SAYS AT NINE, AT 10 FEET IT'S 3.33%, WHICH YOU'RE SAYING IS THE MAXIMUM.
AND WHERE, AND WHAT MY QUESTION TO WAS IN THESE BANDS ON THE PRECEDING PAGES WHERE IT SAYS GROUND LEVEL, HOW WOULD I READ THAT? THERE, SHE STILL THERE? SHE OH YEAH, SHE, YEAH, SHE'S STILL HERE.
UM, SO AT GROUND, SO IT WILL, LEMME JUST GO BACK TO THE SUMMARY TABLE.
SO AT GROUND LEVEL, THE MAXIMUM LEVEL IS 3.3%, WHERE, AND THEN YOU REFERENCED 10 FEET, YOU SAW SOMEWHERE.
WELL THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS ON, I'M LOOKING AT THE PAGE THAT COMES AFTER THE PAGE 13.
AND IT'S, IT HAS WATERFORD ON TOP.
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DISTANCE, AND IT SAYS IN FEET AND IT SAYS 10 FEET.AND IF I CROSS GO ACROSS, THAT'S WHERE I FIND THREE POINT 33% ROUND DISTANCE.
SO THAT'S THE DISTANCE FROM THE POLE TO THE, TO, I'M SORRY, I SHOULD LET YOU TELL ME IN.
YOU, YOU HAD IT, IT WAS THE, THE DISTANCE FROM, I BELIEVE FROM THE POLE ITSELF BACK.
SO, SO JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, UM, WE'RE GONNA HAVE THE SAME CONVERSATION BECAUSE IT, THESE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SITE SPECIFIC MM-HMM
AND THIS HEIGHT, ACCORDING TO YOUR, OF THE POLE OF THE, WHERE THE ANTENNA ANTENNA IS WHERE THE RADIO EQUIPMENT IS 32 FEET, TWO INCHES AND THEY VARY.
UM, AND 33, 3 0.33 IS USED IN EACH ONE.
AND WE ARE VERY SPECIFIC THAT THESE MEASUREMENTS NEED TO BE SITE SPECIFIC.
SO WE'LL ACCEPT IT FOR THIS ONE.
BUT WHEN WE LOOK AT THE NEXT ONE, I NEED TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS STILL THE SAME PERCENTAGE WHEN IT'S A DIFFERENT HEIGHT.
YOUR, WHEN THE ANTENNAS ARE A DIFFERENT HEIGHT, YOU'RE SAYING? YES.
SO WE HAVE, LET ME SEE WHAT I WROTE MARGIN HERE.
SO WHAT IT ALSO REQUIRES IS THE MINIMUM HERE.
IF YOU LOOK AT NUMBER TWO, IT SAYS PERFORMANCE SPECIFICATIONS OF DATA IDENTIFIED THE MAXIMUM AND THE MINIMUM.
THE MINIMUM WOULD BE, IS THIS WRITTEN HERE THAT I'M JUST NOT SEEING IT, WHICH IS TOTALLY POSSIBLE.
I DO SO MUCH BETTER WHEN I GET TO SEE YOU
WE'LL, WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT BEFORE NEXT TIME THEN
AND THEN WE'LL BE A NEXT TIME.
NEXT WEEK WE'LL DO WE'LL, WE'LL FIX IT.
WE'LL FIND THAT IT FELT BETTER THAT YOU COULDN'T THAT EITHER THAT IT WAS CUTE BECAUSE WE NEVER SEEM TO GET, OKAY, SO YOU'RE SAYING FROM WHAT I'M SEEING ON HERE, IT SAYS THE LAST PAGE, IS IT A HUNDRED FEET, IT'S STILL 0.8%.
DOES IT EVER NOT GET TO BE A TOTAL PERCENT? I MEAN THE QUESTION ASKS THAT YOU STATE WHAT IS THE LEAST AND WHAT IS THE HIGHEST, THE THE MINIMUM MAXIMUM.
AND WHAT I CAN'T TELL THIS IS HOW WE GOT TO THIS.
AND SOME OF THE ROOFTOP AND SOME OF THE MONOPOLES, WHEN WE HAVE THEM, THE PLACE TO BE BE IS DIRECTLY UNDER IT BECAUSE IT DOESN'T, YOU GET NOTHING DIRECTLY UNDER THE POLE.
UM, WHEN THIS IS NOT YOU, I'M USING IT AS AN EXAMPLE FOR OTHER, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER APPLICATIONS BECAUSE DIRECTLY STRAIGHT DOWN THERE'S NOTHING.
UM, SO I'M NOT SEEING WHERE THAT HAPPENS HERE AND IT WOULDN'T BE THERE BECAUSE THAT'S TELLING ME IT'S NOT THERE.
THAT'S WHAT YOUR CHARGE SUBJECT, RIGHT.
SAYS AT THAT POINT YOU HAVE A 0.7.
SO WE NEED THE MINIMUM AND WE NEED THE SPECIFICATION OF WHERE THE MINIMUM AND WHERE THE MAXIMUM IS.
AND IT TELLS ME 3.33% IS THE MAXIMUM.
THEN WE NEED TO KNOW AT GROUND LEVEL WHERE IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THERE, AM I BEING, I'M SORRY IF I'M RAMBLING THAT THAT'S OKAY, BUT I'M TRYING TO BE CLEAR.
THAT'S, I THINK I ON YOUR PAGE, ON YOUR PAGE HERE, NEAR LEVELS AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE IT SAYS THE MAXIMUM.
YOU HAVE TO ADD TO 3.33 WHERE THAT WOULD BE, I THINK IT'S 10 FEET, BUT I'M NOT SURE I'M, AND THE OTHER THING YOU HAVE TO WRITE IS WHERE IS THE MINIMUM? WHERE'S THE LEAST? OKAY.
AND WHAT THE LEAST IS, AND I THINK IF YOU DO IT OUT TO A HUNDRED FEET, I COULD SEE THAT.
BUT THAT QUESTION IS WHY DID YOU STOP AT A HUNDRED? I DON'T KNOW.
IS THAT BECAUSE ANOTHER, SOMETHING ELSE PICKS UP THERE? I DON'T KNOW.
SO AND DID WE, DID WE GIVE THAT PREVIOUSLY? IS THAT JUST AN ANOMALY THAT WE WE DID NOT INCLUDE THAT ON THIS ONE OR IT'S NO.
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BUT WE GET TO A DIFFERENT PROBLEM IN, IN ONE.I THINK IT'S ONE, IT'S ONE OR THE OTHER TWO THAT WE GET TO.
UH, ANOTHER QUESTION ABOUT, SO YOU HAVE THE CHART, AND THIS IS WHERE THIS QUESTION IS A LITTLE, UM, WE HAVE A CHART AND A TABLE SHOWING THE RADIO FREQUENCY.
THE TABLE IS, AND SO THE TABLE IS THERE.
BUT IT'S TWO THAT'S NOT ANSWERED COMPLETELY NEAR.
THE NEAR QUESTION COMES IN THREE PARTS.
SO TWO, ONE IS COMPLETE AND TWO IS INCOMPLETE.
BECAUSE IT, THE MINIMUM WE'RE MISSING.
AND AT THE, AT WHAT POINT YOU NEED TO STAY, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
WHAT I WOULD EXPECT TO HAVE SEEN IS NOT STOPPING AT A HUNDRED, BUT TELLING US AT WHAT POINT THERE IS NO MORE OR, UM, THERE THE EMISSIONS GO TO ZERO.
WHERE, HOW FAR OUT FROM THE POLE IS IT THAT THE EMISSIONS FROM THIS GO TO ZERO? FOR SOME REASON THE PERSON STOPPED AT A HUNDRED FEET.
THAT'S NOT TELLING ME WHAT DISTANCE IT IS FROM THE POLL THAT THERE IS NO MORE EMISSION.
BECAUSE I KNOW ON PAGE NINE OF 13 THAT IN THE GRAPH OR THAT DEPICTION, THE WHITE WILL DISPLAY WHERE IT GOES FROM ZERO TO FI, I THINK POINT, I CAN'T READ THAT.
NO, 5% WHERE IT GOES, IT, IT WOULD JUST MAKE SENSE TO SAY THAT AT AT 120 FEET IS, THAT'S WHERE IT'S GONE.
SO WHAT I WROTE IS WRITE OUT WHERE THE MAXIMUM OCCURS AND WHERE, WHAT THE MINIMUM IS AND WHERE IT OCCURS.
SO THAT'S WHAT I'VE WRITTEN HERE.
THE THIRD OF THE NEAREST COMPLETE O IS COMPLETE.
UM, COULD YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE NOISE LEVEL? IT'S, IT IS, IT'S ON EXHIBIT FIVE, PAGE FOUR OF 33.
SO WE GO TO EXHIBIT FIVE AND WE GO TO PAGE FOUR.
WE GO TO SECTION FOUR, EXHIBIT FOUR.
WHAT? OKAY, WE HAVE TO SEE IT.
THE CONCLUSION SAYS THAT THE RAY CAP HAS MET THE NOISE REQUIREMENT AS OPPOSED TO WILL.
S SO WE NEED TO REVISE THAT STATEMENT, RIGHT? IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S TALKING ABOUT PAST TENSE.
I THEY PROBABLY MEAN PRESENT TENSE BASED ON WHAT WE WROTE ABOVE.
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HAZMAT.SO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS SHOULD BE MEATS INSTEAD HAZMAT SHOULD IT MEAT, UH, OR WILL MEET WILL MEAT.
SO I'M GONNA, WILL THE, UH, CONFIGURATION MAKE USE OF IONS? IT SAYS IF THE CONFIGURATION MAKES USE OF IONS, NOISE PRODUCED BY THE SHROUD WILL SUPERSEDE THE NOISE PRODUCED BY THE SHROUD.
AND THEN WE HAVE TO CORRECT THE SPELLING OF GREENFELLOW.
DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA OF RECAP IS PLEASE TO CONFIRM HAS MET IONS IN THE CONFIGURATION? OKAY.
IF THE CONFIGURATION MAKES USE OF IONS NOISE PRODUCED BY THE SHROUD WITH IONS WILL SUPERSEDE THE NOISE PRODUCED BY AP.
SO THE QUESTION IS, IS THE CURRENT CONFIGURATION MAKE USE OF IONS? I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.
I THINK WHAT THEY'RE IMPLYING IS IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT'S ON THERE ALREADY THAT'S VERY NOISY, THIS WILL NOT EXCEED THAT.
BUT IT DOESN'T, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY IF THAT INCLUSIVE THAT IT ACTUALLY DOES HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S MORE, THAT EXCEEDS IT.
AT THE VERY LEAST IT MEANS CLEARER WORDY.
AND ALSO WHETHER OR NOT WHOEVER'S DOING THIS SHOULD KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IT HAS, IF THE CONFIGURATION MAKES USE OF NOT IONS.
SO THE IF IS RIGHT TROUBLESOME.
AND ALSO IT'S THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
OH, I'M WHAT, WHAT? I'M SORRY, WHAT DOES IT SAY? THEY HAVE GREENSBORO OR SOMETHING.
WE'LL, SO I WROTE DOWN CORRECT THE SPELLING.
WHAT DO YOU WANT THIS TO READ FRANCIS? SAY I CAN WRITE IT CORRECTLY.
UM, IMPROVE THE NEEDS TO SPECIFY WHETHER OR NOT THE, WHETHER, WHETHER THE NOISE LEVEL WILL MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, DOD.
AND YOU HAVE ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE IONS AND STATE WHETHER OR NOT AND, AND STATE IF IN FACT THE NOISE LEVEL WILL MEET THE, SOMETHING THAT GREENBERG TOWN CODE CODE AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE USE OF IONS PROBABLY DOES NOT EXIST ON Z, THE USE OF IONS.
WHAT IT'S SAYING IS THAT IF WHATEVER THIS IONS IS, AND I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT IT IS, BUT IF IT MAKES USE OF THE ION, IT'S SAYING THAT'S SO LOUD COMPARED TO WHAT WE ARE DOING, YOU WON'T EVEN NOTICE IT.
BUT IT'S SAYING IF IT USES THE LOUDER
SO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE MAKING A DETERMINATION BASED ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT THERE.
SO, AND DETERMINE WHETHER THE ITEMS WILL BE USED OR WHETHER IT ARE BEING USED.
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I BELIEVE THEY'RE SAYING THAT'S THE TYPO.SOMEBODY AS I READ IT, IF THERE'S SOMETHING AND, AND CORRECT ME IF YOU DISAGREE BARB.
AS I READ THAT, IS THERE SOMETHING THAT'S THERE THAT'S NOISY THAT THIS WILL NOT EXCEED THAT NOISE? I THINK THAT SAYS WE JUST DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT BECAUSE OF THE, IF THAT NOISY THING ACTUALLY IS THERE.
CORRECT? IT'S, YES, I, I AGREE.
UH, WE CAN HAVE THAT CLEANED UP TO STATE WHETHER THE CONFIGURATION IS USING THAT STATEMENT ONLY MAKES SENSE IF WE ARE USING THE CONFIGURATION.
THE CONFIGURATION IS USING IONS.
SO I BELIEVE WE'LL JUST HAVE TO REMOVE THE IF AND SAY DEFINITIVELY THE CONFIGURATION MAKES USE OF THE IONS IF IT DOES, IF IT DOES CORRECT.
SO WHAT I WROTE HERE IS ONE CORRECT SPELLING OF GREENBERG AS ON PAGE FOUR OF 33 IN EXHIBIT FIVE TWO.
THE CONCLUSION NEEDS TO SPECIFY WHETHER THE NOISE LEVEL WILL MEET THE GREENBERG TOWN CODE THREE AND DETERMINE WHETHER IONS ARE BEING USED.
SO THEN THE PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR INSTALLATION IS, IN MY OPINION, COMPLETE.
THAT'S Q AND R, WHICH IS, UM, CONCEALMENT I BELIEVE IS ALSO COMPLETE.
AND THEN WE GET UP TO S WHICH HAS TO DO WITH THE PLANS.
AND IT'S ALWAYS EASIER TO DO IT HERE ON A BIG TABLE.
I ASK BECAUSE OF THE UH, CUT AND PASTE THERE, WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT IT ON THE SHEET, BUT WOULD YOU JUST GIVE A SEARCH, DO HAVE THE DOCUMENTS OF THE TOWN OF AND JUST MAKE IT, MAKE SURE IT'S GREENBERG AFTERWARDS? YES.
WE FOUND IT HERE, BUT WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SO THE REQUIREMENTS READ A PLAN ILLUSTRATING THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION, SIZE, ELEVATION AND HEIGHT OF ALL PROPOSED AND EXISTING ANTENNAS AND ALL THE PERTINENT STRUCTURES IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THE DIMENSIONAL CHANGES TO THE ELIGIBLE SUPPORT STRUCTURE AS A RESULT OF THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION.
THE PLAN SHALL INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION OF THE ANTENNAS AND ALL RELATED FIXTURE STRUCTURES OF PERCE AND APPARATUS, INCLUDING HEIGHT ABOVE, UNDER DISTURBED GRADE, ELEVATION ABOVE GRADE, AND SEA LEVEL MATERIALS, COLOR SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING.
THE NAME OF THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF EACH ANTENNA SHALL BE DELINEATED.
THE EL ELEVATION MEASUREMENTS SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED FOR UTILITY POINTS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO WHAT WE HAVE HERE, AND THIS IS WHERE IT GETS CONFUSING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY PLACE HERE THAT IT TELLS US IT'S VERIZON ON PA, I'M LOOKING AT PAGE FOUR OF EIGHT, RIGHT? YEP.
AND THAT'S REALLY THE EASIEST PAGE TO CHECK THESE THINGS ON.
UM, SO I AM ASSUMING THAT THERE IS NO LIGHTING, BUT WE NEED SOMETHING THAT SAYS THERE'S GOING TO BE NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTING STARTING WITH THE LAST REQUIREMENT FIRST.
EACH OF THESE REQUIRES THAT THAT STATE THERE IS NOT GONNA BE ANY LIGHTING ADDED OR IF THERE IS THAT STATE THERE IS GONNA BE LIGHTING ADDED.
THAT'S WHAT WHAT WE DO IS WE GO ONE AND I'M STARTING AT THE BOTTOM.
AND I'M STARTING AT THE LIGHTING.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT NEEDS TO BE SHOWN IN THE DR NOTED IN THE DRAWING THAT THERE'S NO, WHETHER OR NOT THERE IS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL EXISTING LIGHTING IF, IF THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY ADDITIONAL LIGHTING OR EXISTING LIGHTING.
AND IF THERE IS, THEN YOU HAVE TO SHOW WHERE IT IS.
AND IF THERE'S NOT, THEN WRITE SOMETHING THAT SAYS THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE.
AND WHERE, IS THERE SOMEWHERE SPECIFIC IN THE DRAWING IF THERE'S, YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT? IS IT YOU COULD, THE DETAIL PAGE, YOU COULD WRITE IT UNDER NOTES ON PAGE FOUR OF EIGHT OR YOU COULD WRITE IT ON THE DRAWING OF ON FOUR OF EIGHT AND PUT IT IN A LITTLE BOX SOMEPLACE THAT WE CAN SEE IT.
THIS IS, THIS IS, UM, BEEN SOMETHING I'M NOT SEEING HERE.
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PHONE NUMBER.SO WHERE IS THAT GONNA BE ON HERE? WHERE ARE THE SIGNS? I KNOW AT THE TOP WE HAVE THE CAUTION, BUT THAT'S NOT OURS.
WHAT WE PARTICULARLY LOOK FOR IS THE SIGN THAT GIVES US THE PERMIT NUMBER.
THAT'S WHAT OUR REQUIREMENT IS AND RIGHT, THAT IS THAT THE IN PAGE FOUR OF EIGHT ON THE DRAWINGS, THE CROWN CASTLE SIGN, IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO? SO IT'S, OKAY, SO IT SAYS PROPOSED NOTICE AND CROWN CASTLE SIGNAGE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO KNOW IS WHAT IT'S MADE OF.
THAT BECOMES PART OF 20, UM, T BECAUSE IT, WE RECOGNIZE THAT IT CAN'T BE AT THE HEIGHT THAT WE SAVE FOR OTHER THINGS.
WE SAY STAINLESS STEEL OR ALUMINUM, I'M NOT SURE YOU'RE PERMITTED TO DO THAT, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT, WHAT YOU CAN DO IT OUT OF WHAT, WHAT THE SIGN AND WHAT THE MEASUREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE.
IT'S BECAUSE THERE'S NO INDICATION ON THIS DRAWING AT ALL WHAT THE MEASUREMENTS OF THESE SOUNDS ARE.
THE SIGN MEASUREMENT IS IN NOTE WITHIN THE NOTES ON PAGE FOUR, NUMBER 12.
NO, THAT DOES NOT GIVE YOU THE DIMENSIONS.
SO LET ME JUST WRITE THAT DOWN THE DIMENSIONS.
BUT THAT'S PROBABLY WILL WHERE WE WILL, I'M WRITING THAT ACTUALLY UNDER TWO SIGNED DIMEN, UNDER T SIGNED DIMENSIONS AND UH, MATERIAL USED.
AND SO THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN THE NOTES SECTION AS WELL? YES.
SO THEN WE HAVE COLOR WHICH IS IN THE DESCRIPTION OF, UH, BUT IT SHOULD BE ON HERE AS WELL.
DOES IT SHOW US COLOR HERE SOMEWHERE? ARE YOU STILL LOOKING AT T I'M SORRY.
NO, I AM ON, NO YOU'RE NOT SORRY WITH THE COLOR.
I I IT IS IN THE DESCRIPTION FOR R UH, CONCEALMENT, BUT SHOULD BE PART OF THE ANSWER FOR S AS WELL.
AND THERE'S NO NO NOTHING WRITTEN HERE THAT SAYS THAT ON THE, BUT IT MAY AGAIN, THERE'S SO MUCH, SO MANY NOTES THAT MAYBE I'M JUST MISSING IT.
YEAH, LET JUST TAKE A LOOK HERE.
YEAH, IT'S NOT, I THINK THEY SAID IT'S HIGHLIGHTED BUT I DON'T SEE THAT IT'S HIGHLIGHTED.
I THOUGHT THEY HAD, I THINK IN THE TABLE THEY SAY IT'S HIGHLIGHTED BUT I DON'T SEE ANYTHING HIGHLIGHTED IN THE, WHAT THEY HAD SAID WAS HIGHLIGHTED WAS WHAT? THE THE IDENTIFYING THE, UM, IN BRIGHT INK.
YEAH, THE MATERIAL AND COLOR SHOULD PAGE SIX IS THE MATERIAL
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE WHERE THAT IS IN OUR, IN OUR, I DON'T SEE THAT WE PROVIDED THAT, UM, MATERIALS IS THERE.
'CAUSE WE WOULD BOTH JUST LOOKED AT THAT.
THEN WE HAVE, WE NEED THE POLE.
LET'S LOOK AT THE OWNERSHIP OF ALL OF THIS.
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UM, WHEN THEY SAY KINDED SECONDARY RELOCATED, WHAT IS RELOCATED? THE WIRE? YES.IF YOU GO DOWN ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE POLE PROPO AND YOU GO UNDER FIBER, OKAY, THERE IT IS NOT BROWN.
IT'S IDENTIFIED IN THERE THE NUMBER THAT'S WHERE WHAT THEY WROTE
IT SHOWS PICTURE OF THAT BROWN PICTURE.
THE PICTURES DON'T COUNT BECAUSE WHEN YOU PRINT SOMETHING THEY CAN CHANGE COLOR.
WE DON'T, BUT, BUT IT, IT SAYS IT IN THE WORDS TOO.
IT DOESN'T BUT UNLESS THEY GIVE YOU A COLOR CODE FOR IT, IT DOESN'T BECAUSE IT CHANGES AND, AND, BUT I THINK NUT BROWN MIGHT BE A I'M, YOU KNOW, IS WHAT SOMEONE ELSE BUT WHAT THEY WRITE IS, OR IT'S
OR JUST
THE EQUIPMENT IS LABELED NUT BROWN OR RAL COLOR 80 11 ON SHEET PORK.
I AM ASSUMING RAL IS A A BRAND.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE BRAND IS? I DO NOT.
RA IS A BRAND R-A-L-R-A-L COVER.
AND YOU FIND OUT FOR US WHAT IT IS,
UM, SO IF YOU CAN FIND OUT, I'M NOT, YOU HAVE PROVIDED THE INFORMATION, WE JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT RAL STANDS FOR.
I WILL, I'LL ASK THAT QUESTION.
RAL COLOR SELECT, RIGHT? THE NUMBER 80 11.
IT IS, IT'S A COLOR SELECTION OR METHODOLOGY.
SO IT'S SMART, COMPLETE FOR R BUT IT'S WOULD BE NICE TO KNOW THAT.
OKAY, WE'RE STILL ON THIS PAGE OF THE
I SWEAR THIS WILL END IT PLEASE.
UM, SO WE NEED YOU TO IDENTIFY THE OWNER OF THE POLE.
AND IS THAT IN REFERENCE TO SOMETHING AN S OR ARE WE IT'S IN, WE HAVE, IT SAYS OWNER AND RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE CONED RECOGNIZED AND THERE'S CONFUSION OF, BASED ON GOING BACK TO THE BEGINNING.
SO ON J IF YOU JUST PUT IT, IF YOU PUT IT ON THIS DRAWING ON ON FOUR OF EIGHT, WE WE GOT, WE HAVE IT THEN.
WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, TO ADD THAT.
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION FOR YOU BECAUSE, SO IT WAS ONE, UM, DO WE HAVE THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SHROUD SOMEPLACE? I'M SURE WE DO.
THAT SHOULD BE IN THE EXHIBIT ONE.
I CAN POINT YOU TO WHERE IN EXHIBIT ONE.
EVERYBODY'S OKAY, SO WE DID YOU FIND THE DIMENSIONS? I'M SORRY.
UM, I'M SORRY, I'M JUST TRYING TO, BECAUSE
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THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE HERE ON THE DRAWING.THEY SHOULD BE IN THE DRAWINGS ON ONE OF THE, THE PAGES THERE.
UH, MY EXHIBITS ARE NOT, THAT'S UH, THAT'S FINE.
BUT IT SHOULD BE DEPICTED IN ONE OF THE, UM, USUALLY ON THE SECOND OR THIRD PAGE, LIKE THE EQUIPMENT DETAIL PAGE.
UM, IT SHOULD LIST THE DIMENSIONS IN FEET OR INCHES.
I'M JUST GONNA NOTE IT SINCE THERE'S ENOUGH ELSE TO, SO THAT NEXT TIME WE GO OVER THIS YOU CAN TELL ME WHERE TO GO FOR IT.
IT IS ON, UM, PAGE SIX OF EIGHT AND UM, UNDER RAY IT, IT'S LISTED UNDER, IT SAYS RCAP AND IT LISTS THE MODEL NUMBER, THE A-P-A-R-E-S, BLAH BLAH, BLAH.
THE HEIGHT, THE WIDTH, THE DEPTH.
IS IT, WHAT'S IT, IS IT WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN HIGHLIGHTER? PERHAPS WE COULD HIGHLIGHT THAT.
WE COULD CERTAINLY HIGHLIGHT THAT.
40 INCHES BY 24 INCHES BY 18 INCHES.
OH, I I THINK THAT IS A CROSSHOUSE ME.
OKAY, SO WE GOT THROUGH THAT FIRST IN OFF IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
WHAT WHAT LOOKS LIKE IT'S CROSSED OFF IS ACTUALLY WHAT THEY WANT US TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE FINDING THAT DIFFERENT? OKAY.
I THINK THAT AS WHAT WE NEED FROM YOU IS IDENTIFY THE OWNER OF THE POLE AND WE NEED IS NO LIGHTING OR NO LIGHTING.
I THINK EVERYTHING ELSE IS HERE.
SO THAT'S INCOMPLETE IN T WE NEED, UM, THE SIGNED DIMENSIONS.
AND WE NEED THE MATERIAL TO BE USED.
THEN WE'RE UP TO YOU, WHICH IS COMPLETE.
AND THEN WE HAVE THE INSURANCE.
AND YOU SUBMITTED YOU BEING THE COLLECTIVE, YOU SUBMITTED SOMETHING THAT CAME AFTER THE APPLICATION HAD BEEN SUBMITTED.
SO BY THE PROCESS THAT WE HAVE, WE CAN'T ACCEPT THAT UNTIL WE HAVE THE NEW COLLECTIVE DOCUMENT.
WE'LL INC WE'LL INCLUDE THAT IN THE NEXT PROVISION, CORRECT? OKAY.
I'M SORRY, IT DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE PAGES.
SO JUST WHAT SHOULD I WRITE THERE? INCOMPLETE OR SHOULD I, OKAY.
SO I MOVE THAT WE DEEMED THE APPLICATION FOR 5 48 RZ ROAD AND IT'S LAUREN, SORRY, LAUREN.
DID THE INSURANCE SAY APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE
SO I MOVE THAT WE DO, I HAVE A, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DETERMINE THIS APPLICATION FOR 5 48 LEY ROAD INCOMPLETE.
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OKAY.AND NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE MOVE ON TO THE SECOND ONE.
SHOULD BE ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE WENT OVER THE, WE HAVE MANY OF THE PROBLEM, SO HOPEFULLY EVERYBODY ONE SECOND.
WHY DON'T WE LOOK AT, UH, 30, 35 SPRING VALLEY.
WILL YOU BE PART OF THE OTHER 15, LAUREN? THE OTHER I'M SORRY, APPLICATION.
GOT TO GET BETTER AND BETTER AS WE GO ALONG.
THE ADVANTAGE OF DOING 35 SPRAIN VALLEY.
SO WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEM THAT WE HAD ON THE LAST ONE FOR ONE, WHICH IS THE, WE NEED THE SIGNATURE STAMPED AND FOR THE ENGINEER FOR RAY CAPS ON B, THE APPLICANT IS NOT THERE.
AND LET'S CONFIRM THAT IT IS INDEED CON ED WHO OWNS THIS POLL.
SO WE STILL NEED THE APPLICANT.
AND AGAIN, I'M MISSING THIS SIMPLY OFF OF, I THINK SOMETHING OFF OF THE, OKAY.
UM, SO SIMPLY STATE AGAIN THAT THE, THAT YOU HAVE IT AS THE OWNER, BUT THE CONFUSION COMES ON THE DRAWING.
AND IT WOULD BE, OKAY, SO WE'LL GET TO THAT AND WE'LL ADD IT TO S OKAY? YEP.
MEANWHILE, WE NEED THE APPLICANT ADDED THERE.
UM, POSTAL ADDRESS AND SHEET AND BLOCK ARE COMPLETE, G IS COMPLETE, BUT IN THE FUTURE, WRITE OUT THE FULL QUESTION.
YEAH, THE ZONING DISTRICT IS COMPLETE AND THE LEASE IS COMPLETE.
UM, WILL YOU NEED A NEW POLL HERE? THIS IS NOT NEEDING, THIS WILL NOT BE REPLACED.
THIS WILL, SO THAT'S COMPLETE.
THE SAME HOLDS TRUE THAT I'M GONNA INQUIRE ABOUT FROM THE TOWN.
I'LL LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE HEAR FROM THE TOWN, WHETHER THERE'S A POST INSPECTION AND IF THERE IS, WE'LL TELL YOU HOW TO GET THAT CERTIFICATE.
OTHERWISE YOU'VE PROVIDED A CERTIFICATE AND THAT MAKES, UM, H COMPLETE.
OKAY, WE'LL GET MY LEG JUST STARTED TO CRAMP.
SHE YOGA, SO THAT WAS H, RIGHT? YES.
I, I, UM, IS COMPLETE BECAUSE YOU ARE CONFIRMING AGAIN THAT ONLY T-MOBILE, NO VERIZON ON THIS RIGHT? LOOK.
SO THEN WE HAVE CERTIFICATION OF THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE AND THIS ONE DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT SENTENCE
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AND THE MAKE MODEL MANUFACTURERS THERE.PLEASE FEEL FREE TO CHIME IN AND SAY NO KATHERINE, NO CATHERINE.
OTHERWISE I'M JUST GONNA KEEP MOVING AHEAD.
SO NOW WE GET, UM, IN AGAIN, WE GET TO NEAR AND IF WE LOOK BACK AND HERE IT SAYS YOUR NEAR SAYS THAT IT'S 33 POINT 33, RIGHT? RIGHT.
AND THIS IS, THIS POLE IS 39 FEET, RIGHT? YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS.
IT SAYS 39 AT THE TOP, RIGHT? THAT IS THAT WHERE THE ANTENNA IS? MM-HMM.
THAT WHERE THE RADIO EQUIPMENT IS.
SO THE RADIO EQUIPMENT, THE, THE MIDDLE, UH, THE MIDPOINT OF THE ANTENNA IS AT 33 BEAT.
WHERE AM I SEEING THAT? ON THIS DRAWING? I'M SEEING 23, BUT I'M NOT SEEING 33.
WHAT HAPPENS? YEAH, I SEE IN THE DRAWINGS IT'S LISTED.
OUR DRAWINGS HAVE THE ANTENNA CENTER LINE LISTED AT 23 FEET, 10 INCHES.
IS
AND GO BACK TO THE DRAWING WE JUST HAD AND WENT OVER WHERE THE ANTENNA CENTER LINE IS 32 FEET AND TWO INCHES AND BOTH OF THEM SAY THAT THE PERCENTAGE OF NEAR EXPOSURE IS 33, 3 0.3.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT CAN BE.
MAYBE I, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO SUPPOSED TO BE SITE SPECIFIC.
MAYBE IT HAS TO DO WITH A DIFFERENT MEASUREMENT OF DISTANCE.
YES, THEY ARE SITE SPECIFIC BECAUSE I DO SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE HEIGHTS THAT THEY LIST BETWEEN THE TWO.
THE UM, I'M SORRY, THE TWO, UM, REPORTS THAT THEY HAVE THAT WE HAVE, THEY BOTH SAY THAT AT 10 FEET THEY'RE THREE POINT 33% AND I JUST DON'T SEE HOW THAT WORKS BECAUSE IF ONE IS HIGHER THAN THE OTHER AND IT'S NOT AN INSIGNIFICANT MEASUREMENT, IT'S NOT LIKE A HALF A FOOT.
RIGHT? SO THEN BOTH TO BE THREE POINT 33% AT THE SAME DISTANCE FROM THE POLE.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GO BACK AND FIND OUT IF THIS IS INDEED SITE SPECIFIC BECAUSE I THINK THAT WE GOT THAT EXACT SAME NUMBER MM-HMM
FOR 1 55 HIGHLAND, WHICH I BROUGHT ALONG AND, AND, AND IT TOO SAYS 10 FEET AT THREE POINT 33%.
AND IN ALL THESE YEARS, AND I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 96,
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I HAVE NEVER HAD THAT HAPPEN THAT THEY'RE EXACTLY THE SAME.I HATE TO ADMIT, ADMIT I'VE BEEN DOING IT SINCE 1996, BUT IMPRESSIVE REALLY.
SO IT PAUSES ONE QUICK QUESTION.
LET ME, UM, I WILL TAKE THAT AS A NOTE.
I MEAN WE CAN I, WHAT DO YOU THINK JUST MARKING IT AS CLARIFICATION NEEDED OR NO, I, I THINK IT'S INCOMPLETE.
I DON'T THINK THE REPORT IS ACCURATE.
I THINK THAT THIS IS MY TAKEAWAY.
I THINK THAT THIS IS NOT A SITE SPECIFIC EVALUATION AND THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE AND MAY PERHAPS I AM WRONG AND PERHAPS THERE'S GREAT SCIENTIFIC REASON THAT TWO SITES THAT ARE THAT DIFFERENT IN HEIGHT COULD HAVE AN EXACTLY THE SAME DISTANCE FROM THE POLE, THE SAME EXPOSURE LEVEL.
BUT IF THERE IS, THEN SOMEONE SHOULD TELL ME, TELL US, I'M SORRY, I'M MAKING THIS TOO PERSONAL.
YEAH, BECAUSE I WE CAN WRITE CLARIFICATION BUT I'M WRITING INCOMPLETE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDER, I'M TRYING TO THINK OF WHAT UM, DO YOU WANNA ADD SOMETHING? NO, I JUST, IT'S THE HEIGHT OF THE ANTENNAS THAT MATTER AND THE DIFFERENT HEIGHTS AND THEREFORE EVEN USE WHEN YOU USE THE INVERSE SQUARE LAW, IT SHOULD HAVE A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE.
'CAUSE IT'S DIFFERENT S RIGHT.
SO IF
I'M GOING BACK TO THE LAST ONE THAT WE JUST VOTED ON AND NOTING THAT AS WELL AND MAKING THAT SAME QUESTION INCOMPLETE AND WRITING THAT THESE NEED TO BE SITE SPECIFIC.
YEAH, BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW IF THE FIRST ONE WAS THE ACCURATE ONE OR THE SECOND ONE OR THE ONE WE GOT LAST TIME OR THE LAST ONE WE GOT LAST.
SO, AND IT GETS EVEN BETTER WITH THE NEXT APPLICATION TO LOOK THROUGH.
CAN WE JUST, IS THAT IN HERE TOO? HMM.
I'M, I THINK WE'VE GONE, I'M GONNA WRITE IT ON BOTH.
CLARIFY THE MMPE DISTANCE IS THAT, WILL THAT BE CLEAR TO YOU WHAT WE WANT? YES.
SO THAT MAKES N INCOMPLETE FOR ONE AND TWO.
THE MONITORING FOR THREE IS COMPLETE CERTIFICATION THAT THE PROPOSED NO IS COMPLETE.
THE NOISE, WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE DON'T WE? ABOUT THE IONS AND WE ALSO HAVE GREENBERG.
I'M JUST LOOKING
SO THEY'RE DOING THE SAME THING WITH THE NUMBERS.
IT IS ONLY ON PAGE FOUR OF OF 33.
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WE'LL CHECK THE WHOLE DOCUMENT FOR THAT ISSUE AS WELL.RIGHT? THE NOISE LEVEL WILL VERSUS DUPLICATE OF THE NOISE RECORDING.
AND THIS WHAT DOES RAL STAND FOR? YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A LEGITIMATE CODE FOR, OKAY, I LOOK IT UP.
AND THEN THERE IS, UH, PLAN ILLUSTRATING THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION, SIZE, ELEVATION, HEIGHT, ALL.
OKAY, LET'S SO ON THIS YOU HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE OWNER OF THE POLE.
AND WE HAVE THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT LIGHTING, I BELIEVE.
OH, LARISSA THINK IT SAYS IT HERE.
THEY TELL YOU PAIGE FOR THAT'S WHAT
I THINK THAT'S IT, RIGHT? WE HAVE THE SIGNAGE QUESTION THAT COMES AFTER THAT IN THE NEXT ONE.
UM, SO I THINK WE DID PUT IN THE DRAWING ON PAGE THREE OF EIGHT.
WE MENTIONED AN EXISTING STREETLIGHT.
IT HOWEVER CONFLICTS WHAT WILL WITH WHAT WE HAVE IN THE TABLE SAYING THERE IS NO STREETLIGHT.
BUT YOU ALSO NEED US TO SAY WHETHER THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL STREETLIGHT, RIGHT? WHETHER YOU WILL HAVE YES.
IT'S NOT STREETLIGHT, IT IS THE LIGHT THAT YOU LIGHTING PROVIDE LIGHTING.
SO, AND WE WANT YOU TO CORRECT THE STREETLIGHT DESCRIPTION.
IS THAT GOOD TO WRITE IT THAT WAY? WAY TO WRITE, UH, CORRECT THE STREETLIGHT DESCRIPTION.
WILL THAT BE CLEAR TO YOU WHAT THAT MEANS? 'CAUSE YOU JUST SAID THAT IT'S CONTRADICTORY.
WITH THE SIGN IT IS, UM, WE NEED THE SIGN DIMENSIONS AND THE MATERIAL.
AND NOW WE HAVE FOR, UM, THIS, THE NEXT ONE IS COMPLETE
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AND THEN WE HAVE FOR INSURANCE, WHAT DID I WRITE? I WROTE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE REVISIONS.AND NOW LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, IT'S TIME FOR A VOTE.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT REDEEM THE APPLICATION FOR 35 SPRAIN VALLEY ROAD.
SO NOW WE ARE ON TO 3 82 AND WE HAVE THE SAME ISSUE WITH, WE NEED THE RAY CAP ENGINEER STAMP ONE.
DO WE NEED THE APPLICANT? THE POSTAL ADDRESS WAS GIVEN.
WE WANT YOU IN, IN F AND D TO NOT ABRIDGE THE QUESTION.
THE ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS EXPLAINED TO US ON THE FIRST ONE WE GOT ABOUT THE REASON FOR NEW APPLICATION, A NEW POLL WAS THAT THEY NEEDED A HIGHER POLL.
UM, WHAT IS THE STATUS HERE ON THIS POLL? UH, IF IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, CORRECT.
THIS, UM, I DON'T SEE THAT WE NEED TO REPLACE, BUT LET ME JUST CONFIRM ONE OTHER PLACE HERE.
I DON'T SEE THAT THIS NEEDS TO BE A REPLACED O SO THEN THE DESCRIPTION WOULD BE COMPLETE.
THAT'S G AND H IS COMPLETE, BUT I, AGAIN, WE WILL CHECK WITH THE TOWN TO SEE IF THERE'S A POST OR, OKAY.
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WHY I YOU WRITE T-MOBILE IS THE ONLY TENANT AT THIS SITE, BUT VERIZON IS IN THE CALCULATIONS.IF YOU LOOK TO, UM, YES, IN OUR, I THINK IT'S IN THE RF REPORT.
WHICH, WHICH EXHIBIT IS THAT? I THINK THAT'S THREE.
SO I THEY CAN'T BE BOTH CAN'T BE, YOU KNOW, SO YOU NEED TO YEAH, SO I WAS THINKING ABOUT THAT.
HOW WOULD YOU, UM, BECAUSE WE WANT TO SAY, I BELIEVE WE WANT TO, UM, MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THE PROPOSED FACILITY IS BEING UPGRADED.
THE NEW EQUIPMENT WILL BE FOR T-MOBILE AND VERIZON IS AN EXISTING, HAS EXISTING EQUIPMENT.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? I I WANNA BE ABLE TO NO, I DON'T UNDERSTAND BECAUSE IT WAS NEVER REPRESENTED TO US IN THE PAST THAT WAY THAT THEY WOULD BE, UH, IN CONTRAST TO THE OTHERS WOULD, AND THE NEAR LEVEL IS DIFFERENT IN THIS ONE.
BECAUSE THE VERIZON IS ACTIVELY USING THIS.
SO WE, YOU CAN'T WRITE ON I AGREE THAT AGREE.
T T-MOBILE IS THE ONLY TENANT.
I I I MY, I JUST MEAN WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S GETTING UPGRADED, WHAT, WHAT, DOES IT MATTER TO YOU THAT VERIZON'S RADIOS ARE NOT GETTING UPGRADED HERE? NO.
SO WE WILL WRITE THEN T-MOBILE.
'CAUSE THE QUESTION IS IF THE WIRELESS FACILITY BEING MODIFIED, WE'LL PROVIDE SERVICE TO ANOTHER WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER.
A SIGNED AGREEMENT OR DOCUMENTATION CLEARLY SHOWING THE WIRELESS SERVICE.
SO WE NEED THAT TO SEE THAT, THAT NOW WE GO DOWN A DIFFERENT RABBIT HOLE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WHEN YOU WERE JUST, WHEN IT WAS JUST T-MOBILE, WE DIDN'T NEED ANYTHING FOR IT OTHER THAN THAT.
BUT NOW YOU HAVE TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION BOTH FOR VERIZON AND TO EXPLAIN HOW THIS IS BEING PROVIDED.
THIS IS NOT ASKING ABOUT VERIZON NECESSARILY BEING UPGRADED OR NOT.
IT'S SAYING WHO ELSE IS USING IT.
AND IF CROWN OWNS IT, THEN WHO THEN CROWN HAS TO PROVIDE THE RELATIONSHIP TO VERIZON FOR THIS SPECIFIC PURPOSE.
NOT, UH, YOU KNOW, NOT THE POLL, NOT THE AM I, UM, I DON'T KNOW.
AM I BEING, I, AM I BEING CLEAR? SO REVISING TO SAY THAT T-MOBILE AND VERIZON ARE TENANTS AT THE SITE.
BUT, BUT IF YOU READ IT SAYS THE WIRELESS FACILITY BEING MODIFIED WILL PROVIDE SERVICE TO ANOTHER WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER ASSIGNED AGREEMENT OR OTHER DOCUMENTATION CLEARLY SHOWING THE WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER ON BEHALF OF THE WIRELESS FACILITY WILL BE PROVIDING SERVICE.
SO, AND I WOULD, IF WE PROVIDE THAT, WE HAD, WHEN WE PERMITTED THIS ORIGINALLY THAT WAS GIVEN, ARE YOU PROVIDING SERVICE TO VERIZON? YES.
SO LIKE A STATEMENT STATING THAT YOU ARE UPGRADING THE POLE BUT NOT, UH, THE, UH, TENANTS ON THE POLE BUT ARE NOT UPGRADING THE EXISTING VERIZON INTENT.
BUT THIS ISN'T ABOUT THIS, IF THE WIRELESS FACILITY BEING MODIFIED RIGHT, THEN THIS, THIS IS, THIS BOX BEING MODIFIED WILL PROVIDE SERVICE TO ANOTHER WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER, VERIZON.
A SIGNED AGREEMENT OR OTHER DOCUMENTATION CLEARLY SHOWING THE WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER ON BEHALF OF THE WIRELESS FACILITY WILL BE PROVIDING SERVICE.
OR IS THAT POORLY WRITTEN? MM-HMM
UM, IF THE APPLICANT AGREES TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO A, TO ADDITIONAL WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDERS DURING THE COURSE OF OPERATION OF THE WIRELESS FACILITY THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE.
WE SHALL NE SHALL PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE TOWN ALONG WITH A SIGNED AGREEMENT.
SO WE'VE NEVER GOTTEN ANYTHING THAT TOLD US BEFORE THAT VERIZON WAS IN.
THIS WAS PART, WAS PROVIDING SERVICE THROUGH THIS.
WE'VE ALWAYS BEEN TREATING THEM THE EXACT WAY AS THE OTHER TWO APPLICANTS WE HAD THIS EVENING.
SO NOW WE HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT DOCUMENTS THAT THIS AGREEMENT TO BE IN, TO BE PROVIDING SERVICE HAS BEEN MADE.
NOW WHO THAT IS BETWEEN IS A GOOD QUESTION BECAUSE AS IT CROWNED, IS LEASING IT OUT TO VERIZON TO USE THE BOX OR IS IT VERIZON LEASING THE POLE TO CROWN AND THEN WE HAVE CROWN'S BOX AND SO IT'S A LEASE BACK.
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IT IS CROWN LEASING THE SPACE TO VERIZON WITHIN THE BOX.SO WE NEED SOMETHING THAT SPECIFIES THAT.
AND THIS GOES TO, THIS GOES TO, WE STARTED OUT WITH CROWN HAVING THE RIGHT TO USE THIS, HAVING LEASE THIS.
THAT'S OUR FIRST, THAT'S F MM-HMM
THIS OTHER PROVIDER'S IN THE, IN THERE TOO, WHICH WE HAVE NOT HAD BEFORE.
DO WE KNOW WHEN THE VERIZON WENT IN THERE? I I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT NOW.
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, WE NEED TO KNOW.
SO YOU NEED TO, YOU SEE THE PROBLEM HERE? YES.
INCLUDE THE REQUIREMENTS FOR VERIZON.
AND WHAT I THINK YOU'RE SAYING WHEN YOU SAY THEY'RE NOT UPGRADING IS WHY THEY DON'T HAVE TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION FOR THE WHOLE PROCESS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST, THEIR HOUSE IS JUST BEING REPLACED.
THEY'RE NOT CHANGING ANYTHING.
I THINK, AND I KNOW THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FUNNY WAY TO PUT IT.
AND SO I THINK THAT THAT'S WHY YOU'RE SAYING WE DON'T NEED TO, WE SHOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT AN APPLICATION ON BEHALF OF VERIZON.
'CAUSE VERIZON ISN'T CHANGING.
THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS WE NEVER GOT AN APPLICATION TO BEGIN WITH.
SO DON'T WE HAVE TO LEGALIZE IT? I, YEAH.
SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF, YEAH.
SO WE NEED TO TAKE THE LEGALIZING STEPS NOW IF YOU CAN DOCUMENT THAT AT ANY POINT, I'LL GO TO THE TOWN.
BUT IF YOU CAN DOCUMENT AT ANY POINT THAT THEY, I CAN TELL YOU WE NEVER HAD TO IN A A BOX.
WE'VE NEVER HAD THIS PROBLEM BEFORE, SO WE NEED TO LEGALIZE VERIZON.
I WILL TAKE THAT TO, TO SEE IF WHAT WE HAVE IN OUR RECORDS, IF, IF WE HAVE ANY RECORDS OF THAT, UM, IT MAY VERY WELL MEAN THAT VERIZON HAD TO SUBMIT FOR THIS BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY THEY WOULD BE LEGALIZED FOR HAVING BEEN THERE.
BUT IF WE CAN, LET'S PULL ON THE YARN OF THE SWEATER AND SEE WHAT COMES OUT.
IF THERE IS ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN PRODUCE OR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT COULD PRODUCE.
WELL, DO THEY HAVE ALL THE DETAILS FOR VERIZON? BECAUSE THE LIGHTING AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS GONNA BE SAID.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS, THE, THE WAY WHERE I FOUND IT WAS IN THE EMISSIONS REPORT.
SO NOW THIS IS GOING TO CAUSE QUESTIONS ABOUT S BECAUSE YOU'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ABOUT EACH ANTENNA ON THE, THE ANTENNA WILL BE THE SAME, BUT IT NEEDS TO SAY WHO'S IN IT.
RIGHT? IT THE, THE CABINET, THE, THE SHROUD IS WHAT'S INSIDE THE SHROUD IS WHAT VERIZON HAS.
THEY WILL USE THE SAME ANTENNA.
SO MAYBE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS WRONG.
MAYBE WE SHOULD BE MAKING YOU WRITE THAT T-MOBILE IS IN THIS SHROUD ON THE DRAWING.
BUT ON THE DRAWINGS IT DOESN'T SAY THAT THE ANTENNA IN ON TOP, IT IDENTIFIES THE ANTENNA AS BEING CROWN CASTLE ANTENNA AND IT IDENTIFIES THE SHROUD, UH, THE UM, THE SHROUD AS BEING THE EQUIPMENT.
BUT IT DOESN'T IDENTIFY ON THIS POLE ANYWHERE WHERE T-MOBILE IS LOCATED.
DOESN'T IT HAVE TO IDENTIFY WHERE EACH OF THE ANTENNAS ARE LOCATED? YEAH, BUT WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH T-MOBILE IN GENERAL.
AND I'M REALIZING THAT WE HAVE NOT SPECIFIED, WE'VE LOOKED AT FOUND, THIS IS A BIG CORRECTION WE NEED TO HAVE ON THE DRAWINGS FOR T-MOBILE IS LOCATED.
WE WE DO HAVE THAT IN THE DRAWING ON PAGE WHERE SIX ON SIX OF THE DRAWING.
I'M SORRY, PAGE FOUR OF THE DRAWING.
WHERE IS T-MOBILE IDENTIFIED INSIDE IT SAYS, OKAY, I SEE IT T-MOBILE EQUIPMENT.
IT SAYS, SO ON THE LEFT PROPOSED, UH,
IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT SB REQUIRES, S REQUIRES THAT, UM,
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THE FINANCIAL INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION WILL BE ANTENNAS AND ALL, UM, A HEIGHT OF ALL PROPOSED AND EXISTING ANTENNAS.SO WE HAVE TO HAVE, THAT'S THE VERY FIRST LINE OF S AND IT SHALL INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION INCLUDING HEIGHT.
THE NAME OF THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF EACH ANTENNA SHALL BE DELINEATED.
SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT FOR VERIZON ON THERE.
SO THE WHOLE THING AS IT APPLIES TO VERIZON MAKES THIS MUCH MORE COMPLICATED AND APPLICATION BECAUSE IT'S S IS COMPLETELY OFF WITH NOT IDENTIFYING IT AT ALL.
WE HADN'T EVEN GOTTEN TO SI APOLOGIZE, I'M JUMPING.
I WAS AT, UH, AT, I I WAS, I WAS ON I, AND WE NEED TO FIND OUT ABOUT LEGALIZING IT.
THEN WE GO ON TO THE CERTIFICATION AND SUPPORT THE STRUCTURE IS CAPABLE OF SAFE, SAFELY HANDLING THE ADDITIONAL ANTENNA EQUIPMENT TO BE ADDED.
'CAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT SENTENCE.
BUT IS IS THAT A CARBON COPY OF DESTRUCTIVE INTEGRITY? IS THAT THE CARBON COPY OF OTHER APPLICATIONS? IT'S NOT THE FIRST ONE, IT'S THE SECOND ONE.
SO THE FIRST ONE HAD THAT LINE THAT SAID THAT THE PROVIDER NEEDS TO COME OUT.
THE OWNER NEEDS TO COME OUT AND CHECK THE POLL.
THIS JUST SAYS IT'S, IT'S IT'S SOUND.
I'M WONDERING IF IT'S, IF IT'S THE SAME THING IN EACH, ALL THREE APPLICATIONS.
EXCEPT IF I, IN OTHERWISE AT 91%, IS IT 91? IS THAT NORMAL? THE PERCENTAGES CHANGE THE PERCENTAGE.
LAUREN, DO YOU KNOW IN THE OTHER 16, ARE THERE ANY, UH, TWO IN A BOX? IN OTHER WORDS, ANY OTHER VERIZON, ANY OTHER HORIZONS IN A BOX? I DON'T KNOW.
I, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN VET BEFORE WE, UM, SUBMIT AND MAY THE NEXT BATCH OF THREE, YOU MIGHT WANNA DO THE ONES THAT DON'T HAVE VERIZON IN THERE JUST SO THAT WE WE CAN GO FASTER WITH THOSE.
THEN WE GET TO THE FREQUENCY MIGRATION.
AND THIS HAS BOTH THE HEIGHT ISSUE AND VERIZON.
NOW, UM, BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE
AND WE HAVE THE TOWN OF, UH, THE CROWN CASTLE ANTENNA CENTER LINE IS AT 40 FEET.
AND AGAIN, IT SAYS THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, AND IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR ANSWER ON N IN THE BOOKLET IT SAYS THE AMENDED TABLE HAS BEEN RE REQUESTED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBERG SHOWS THE MAXIMUM PERMISSIBLE EXPOSURE, UH, SEVERAL GROUND DISTANCES WITH THE MAXIMUM EXPOSURE AT GROUND OF THREE, THREE POINT 33%.
AND THEN IT SAYS UNDERNEATH IT, IT SAYS 4.5%.
SO THE PAGE ITSELF CONTRADICTS ITSELF.
SO WE CAN, WELL, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S A TYPO BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE'RE JUST GETTING IT.
WE DON'T KNOW IF IT'S SITE SPECIFIC.
NO, I'M SAYING IT SHOULD HAVE MATCHED THE 4.5 THAT THAT 3.3.
BUT WE WILL, WE WILL TAKE THAT LOOKING AT THE RF REPORT AND ENSURING IT'S SITE SPECIFIC.
AND IT TOO SAYS THAT THIS IS ALL AT 10 FEET.
SO THE ANTENNA CITED IS HIGHER THAN THE OTHER ONES.
THE OTHERS WERE 23 AND THIS ONE IS AT 41.
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AT 10 FEET BEING THE HIGHEST LEVEL DOESN'T SEEM SITE SPECIFIC SOMEHOW.AM I, AM I CLEAR? YOU SAID 10 FEET FROM THE POLE OR 10 FEET.
EACH OF THESE SAYS EACH OF THESE REPORTS FROM WATERFORD SAYS 10 FEET FROM THE POLE WAS 3.33% REGARDLESS OF THE HEIGHT OF THE ANTENNA.
AND THIS ONE SAYS 4.5 AT 10 FEET ALSO FROM THE POLE.
AND THIS ONE IS AT 41 FEET UP.
AND THESE NEED TO BE SITE SPECIFIC AND THEY NEED TO REFLECT IN SOME WAY THE DIFFERENT HEIGHT OF THE ANTENNAS AS IT HITS THE GROUND.
BECAUSE YOU WOULD THINK THAT THE ANGLE WOULD BE DIFFERENT.
YOU WOULD THINK SIMPLE, SIMPLE.
NOW, SORRY, IF YOU GO TO EXHIBIT, EXHIBIT THREE, IF YOU GO TO THE, ALMOST THE LAST PAGE OF EXHIBIT THREE.
I'M SORRY, THE NUMBERS ARE DIFFERENT.
YEAH, THE, THAT NUMBER IS, BUT NOT THE DISTANCE FROM THE POLE.
AND WHAT THAT ONE, THE 4.5 IS WITH VERIZON IN IT, BUT FOR SOME REASON, REGARDLESS OF THE HEIGHT OF THE POLE, 10 FEET OUT ON THE GROUND, THEY HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT.
SO ON THIS SIDE THAT THE DISTANCES, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS MENTIONING THE HEIGHT OF EACH ON EACH ONE FOR THE ANTENNAS ARE, ARE IDENTICAL.
IT'S THE PERCENTAGES, THE THE SAME.
BUT THE HEIGHT OF THE ANTENNAS IS DIFFERENT.
WELL THESE ARE EXACTLY THE
SO THAT MAKES NEAR THAT, THAT MAKES AN INCOMPLETE SOON WORLDWIDE DINNER TOGETHER.
UM, THEN WE GET TO THE MONITORING PLAN, WHICH IS COMPLETE.
MUCH LONGER BE BREAKFAST AND THEN WE GO TO O, WHICH IS COMPLETE.
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THEN WE HAVE THE SAME WITH THE NOISE, WHICH IS SAME, SAME SHEET.SO THE NOISE NEEDS THE SAME NOTATION ON IT TO BE INCOMPLETE.
IT'S THE SAME AS ON THE OTHERS.
NOW
THE SPELLING OF OF GREENBERG ON PAGE FOUR OF 33 IN EXHIBIT FIVE TO THE CONCLUSION NEEDS TO SPECIFY WHETHER THE NOISE LEVEL WILL MEET THE GREENBERG CODE.
AND THREE, DETERMINE WHETHER IONS ARE BEING USED.
THEN WE GET TO Q THAT'S COMPLETE.
UM, THE CONCEALMENT JUST GETS A LITTLE CONFUSING BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S, I MEAN, IT, YOU HAVE THE ANSWER, BUT IT ALL THROWS HAVING, HAVING THE TWO SITES IN THERE THROWS IT A LITTLE INTO, INTO WHETHER THE ANSWER CAN BE DO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? MAYBE.
UM, SO R IS COMPLETE S WE NEED VERIZON IDENTIFIED.
DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ON LIGHTING IN THIS ONE? NO.
THIS IS, WE'RE ON S YEAH, I THINK WE DON'T HAVE IT NOTED THAT THERE'S NEW OR PROPOSED.
SO I HAVE THAT WRITTEN DOWN THAT WE NEED TO SPECIFY THAT TO ADD OR ACKNOWLEDGE.
I JUST WROTE, WE NEED VERIZON IDENTIFIED IN ALL WAYS.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHERE THE ANTENNAS ARE, WHAT YOU KNOW, ET CETERA.
BUT IT'S THROUGH THROUGHOUT THE APPLICATION.
NOW, BECAUSE YOU HAVE VERIZON IN THERE, WE, THERE'S A LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE CLARIFIED.
WE, UH, TWO, WE NEED THE POLE OWNER AND WE NEED, UM, LIGHTINGS, SPECI TO SPECIFY.
THAT'S ST WE NEED DIME DIMENSIONS AND TWO, THE MATERIALS TO BE USED.
THE NEXT ONE, THIS IS U IS COMPLETE.
AND THEN WITH THE INSURANCE, I WILL WRITE THE SAME THING.
APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE REVISIONS,
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OKAY.UM, SO DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
UM, OKAY, BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THIS ONE, BUT BEFORE WE DID, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE, OH, SORRY.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEEM THIS INCOMPLETE.
UM, UNANIMOUS, IF YOU LIKE, WE CAN GO THROUGH THEM ALL AGAIN.
JUST MAKE, MAKE SURE IT'S NOT YOU.
SO, LAUREN, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE WAITING THROUGH THE TECHNOLOGICAL DIFFICULTIES WE HAD.
UM, WILL I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH HOW THAT WORKS AFTER, OR DO WE PICK UP YOUR NOTES FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT OR? NO, WHAT HAPPENS NOW IS TOMORROW MORNING THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL STAMP THEM.
THEY WILL STAMP THEM TODAY BECAUSE THIS IS WHEN IT WAS COMPLETED.
OH, FRANCIS IS GONNA STAMP IT, BUT THEN HE HAS TO TOUCH IT.
HE'S, HE IS GOT A VERY, VERY BAD COLD.
HE LOOKS LIKE HE'S DYING HERE AT THE TABLE
SO REALLY, I DON'T REALLY WANT HIM TO TOUCH ANYTHING.
SO I WILL PHOTOGRAPH THE FRONT PAGE OF IT AND IT WILL SHOW THAT IT IS THE DOCUMENT AND IT'S BEEN, AND WE'VE GONE OVER IT.
TOMORROW YOU'LL GET IT A SCANNED COPY OF IT.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU HAVE MY EMAIL.
AND SO YOU CAN SEND ME, IF ANYTHING'S NOT CLEAR, THEN WHAT YOU DO IS YOU PUT TOGETHER A WHOLE NEW APPLICATION.
AND THAT'S WHY I READ INTO THE RECORD IN THE BEGINNING.
WE MET TODAY ON THE 24TH, AND IT'S BEEN DEEMED INCOMPLETE.
AND YOU GET IT TO US ACCORDING TO YOUR SCHEDULE.
AND WE NEED TO REPRINT AND THE, THE RESUBMISSION IS TO REPRINT EVERYTHING.
EXCEPT, EXCEPT IT'S PARTICULARLY, I, I DON'T KNOW.
WE HA YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH TO FIND OUT ABOUT THE ONE WITH VERIZON.
ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO.
THEN I MAKE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND THAT.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
I THINK, CAN WE HAVE HER INSTEAD OF THE JUDGE?