[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 CATHERINE LEDERER-PLASKETT Chair ]
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SO TODAY IS NOVEMBER 7TH, 2025, FRIDAY.
THIS IS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND 10 REVIEW BOARD.
WE ARE MEETING TO REVIEW A SUBMISSION MADE ON OCTOBER 31ST, 2025, REVIEWED NOVEMBER 7TH, 2025, WHICH IS TODAY, WHICH IS SEVEN DAYS LATER.
BEFORE WE PROCEED, LET ME TAKE ATTENDANCE.
WE HAVE A, A FULL QUORUM PRESENT AT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, BUT LET ME TAKE ATTENDANCE.
GRANT, IS SHE IN PRESENT? MIKE SHERIDAN.
WE WOULDN'T LEAVE YOU OUT HERE.
SO WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT AT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO CONVENE THIS MEETING.
AND, UM, IT IS FOR THE FENIMORE ROAD SITE D PARKING LOT BY THE HARSDALE TRAIN STATION.
AND IT IS FOR THE VERIZON WIRELESS SITE ON MONO POLE THERE.
UM, AS I SAID, THE SUBMISSION WAS ORIGINALLY MADE ON THE 31ST OF 20 20TH OF OCTOBER, 2025.
AND TODAY IT'S SEVEN DAYS LATER, NOVEMBER 7TH, 2025.
THIS IS THE FIRST SUBMISSION FOR THIS APPLICATION.
UM, I WENT, PLEASE, ANYBODY WHO FINDS SOMETHING DIFFERENT, STOP ME.
I WILL GO OVER WHAT, UM, I FOUND.
AND THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD ABOUT A WAS IN THREE, THIS IS EXHIBIT C NUMBER, PAGE 50.
THERE IS NO, THIS IS AN ENGINEER.
UM, AND THERE IS NO STAMP OR ANYTHING NEXT HIS NAME.
UH, I, WE HAVE HAD THIS CONVERSATION IN THE PAST ABOUT HAVING A STAMP OR SOMETHING THAT AN ENGINEER HAS.
WELL, HE, HE'S A, HE'S WHAT'S CALLED AN RF ENGINEER.
HE'S NOT A PE THAT HAS A STAMP.
SO HE IS NOT TECHNICALLY AN ENGINEER.
SO HE ALL, ALL OF HIS REPORTS, ALL OF HIS, UM, AFFIDAVITS HAVE, UM, BEEN LIKE THIS WITHOUT STAMPS BECAUSE HE'S NOT, UH, A PA PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER.
HE, WELL, DOES AN RS ENGINEER GET SOME KIND OF CERTIFICATION OR LICENSE NUMBER OR SOMETHING? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING.
IF YOU CAN FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
'CAUSE I THINK IN ALL THESE YEARS I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT.
THE OTHER TWO HAVE STAMP CERTIFYING WHO THEY ARE.
I MEAN, SOMEBODY CAN'T JUST CALL THEMSELVES A RF ENGINEER.
ACTUALLY AN ENGINEER CAN'T, YOU CAN'T SAY YOU'RE A PE WITHOUT BEING PE IF YOU SEE YOU'RE AN RF ENGINEER WITHOUT BEING AN RF ENGINEER.
I THINK IT MIGHT BE A, AN INTERNAL DESIGNATION AMONG, OKAY, SO WE HAVE ACCEPTED BEFORE, WHAT WE HAVE ON PAGE 39, WHICH IS THE FC COMPLIANCE REPORT.
NEAR CERTIFICATION WAS SIGNED BY ANDREW SIMPSON, THE PROJECT MANAGER.
AND WE HAVE ACCEPTED THIS AS, AS HIS, UM, QUALIFICATIONS.
SO WE'RE GONNA LEAVE THAT UNRESPONDED TO IT THE MOMENT.
UM, FOR ME, UM, B WAS COMPLETE AS WAS C, D, E, AND F.
CAN YOU LOOK AT THE ANSWER TO G WHEN I YOU REFERENCE C TWO,
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WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS THE REMOVAL REMOVE, I KNOW THAT.SO WE DON'T HAVE TO THANK YOU.
WHAT YOU HAVE HERE IS REMOVE, REMOVE, INSTALL, INSTALL AND REMOVE.
BUT WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE DRAWINGS ARE THE FEED LINES TO BE INSTALLED IN OTHER THINGS.
AND IT SHOULD A DESCRIPTION OF ALL WORK NECESSARY.
WE NEED ALL WORK THAT'S NECESSARY AND WE NEED IT LISTED IN, YOU KNOW, A DESCRIPTION.
AND THIS IS NOT, THIS IS KIND OF A HUNT AND PECK.
SO ON G, WHERE YOU START TO LIST IT, LIST ALL THE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE, THAT WILL OCCUR ON H UM, THIS, THIS IS SOMETHING NOW I, YOU PROVIDED A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION AND IT ASKS FOR SUPPORT STRUCTURE OF THE, FOR THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE OF THE EXISTING ANTENNAS, WHICH WE REALIZED WAS THE MONOPOLE.
AND WHAT YOU PROVIDE HERE, IT SAYS, POSE THIS COMPLETENESS ISSUED BY THE HONOR, GREENBERG C EXHIBIT E, PAGE 58.
AND LET ME TELL YOU, YOU DID SOMETHING THAT I DON'T RECALL ANYBODY ELSE EVER DOING, WHICH IS WHOEVER DID IT FOR YOU DID A GREAT JOB.
THEY NUMBERED SEQUENTIALLY ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE APPLICATION ON THE BOTTOM INSTEAD OF JUST HAVING IT BE PER SECTION OR CHANGING NUMBERS OR IT'S THE THIRD PAGE OF THE THING, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY NUMBERED SOMETHING COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
SO THIS MAKES IT SO MUCH EASIER.
OKAY, SO I AM ON PAGE IN EXHIBIT E PAGE.
IT SAYS ANTENNA REPLACEMENT RELATED IMPROVEMENT PLAN THE CO FOR ONE OF THE PRIOR EXISTING BUILDING PERMITS.
AND IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT EVEN YOURS.
AND THIS IS FOR ANTENNAS NOT STRUCTURE.
AND IT IS NOT, IT ISN'T NOT EVEN THE VER TO THE LAST VERSION OF THE, OF VERIZON.
WE HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING THIS WAS 2017.
SO, OKAY, BECAUSE WE'VE GONE OVER THIS SEVERAL TIMES, EVEN FOR OTHER, UM, DISH CAME IN FOR THAT SITE SINCE THAT ALSO.
SO THIS IS ALSO NOT THE MOST RECENT, EVEN IF IT WAS GONNA BE NOT FOR THE SUPPORT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH.
SO K WAS ON, ON, I I WAS COMPLETE.
LET'S LOOK AT J INCLUDED ON ITEM AS ITEM FOUR ON VERIZON WIRELESS FE STATE RECEIPT.
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WAIT, NO, NO, I APOLOGIZE.I SAID I WAS COMPLETE J OKAY, THIS IS, AND I'M, CAN I ASK A DUMB QUESTION? IS THAT ALL THE STANDARD IS A THREE SECOND GUST OF WIND AT 110 MILES PER HOUR? THAT'S ON YOU? YES.
ACCORDING TO THE REPORT, I, I'M NOT A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, BUT YES, THAT'S, I MEAN THEY DO IT BY, BASED ON, THAT SEEMS LIKE A LOW STANDARD, BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT IT.
THE ON PAGE FIVE, AND THEN I WENT TO LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS ON PAGE FIVE.
IT SAYS THIS IS A 74 FOOT MONOPOLE TOWER DESIGNED BY ENGINEER ENDEAVORS.
THE TOWER HAS BEEN MODIFIED FOR REINFORCEMENT DRAWINGS PREPARED BY CROWN CASTLE IN MAY OF 2020, WHICH WE, THIS TOWER WAS PREVIOUSLY EXTENDED 10 FEET BRINGING THE OVERALL TOWER HEIGHT TO 84 FEET.
SO I'M NOT, AND THEN I MENTIONED THAT TO FRANCIS BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE WERE EVER CONSULTANTS THAT WAS EVER SENT TO US WHEN THAT WAS MODIFIED.
WHAT YEAR IS 2020? UH, WELL IT WAS PANDEMIC TIME.
I'M SORRY, THAT WAS PANDEMIC TIME, RIGHT? WE DID THE I KNOW WE DID.
ANYWAY, SO LOOK INTO THAT IS, YEAH, IS THIS STRESS TEST BASED ON THE 80, 84 OR THE 74? YOU KNOW, MIKE, I, IT, IT APPEARS TO BE BASED ON THE 84, BUT I, BECAUSE UM, I MEAN THEY REFERENCED THE MOUNTING LEVEL OF 84 FEET FOR CERTAIN EQUIPMENT.
I'M SORRY, UH, THEY, THEY REFERENCED THE 84 FOOT, THE HEIGHT FOR CERTAIN EQUIPMENT.
SO IF THE, IF THE 84 FOOT, SO IT DOES HAVE THE CERTIFICATE THAT IS SUFFICIENT, UM, DO THEY HAVE A PERMIT FOR THAT 2020? I DIDN'T SEE SOMETHING FOR THE STRUCTURE.
THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE THE STRUCTURE WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE A C OF O FOR AND THAT THEY HAVE THE BUILDING FORM.
SO, UM, K IS MAKE, MODEL AND MANUFACTURER OF THE ANTENNAS IS COMPLETE.
L IS COMPLETE, M IS COMPLETE THE NEAR LEVELS.
UM, IN LOOKING AT N WE REQUIRE IT FOR ALL ANTENNAS THAT ARE THERE.
AT LEAST THE WAY I READ THE CHART.
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ON, ON PAGE 44.SO YES, THEN IS COMPLETE FOR ME.
I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY SEES SOMETHING ELSE TO ASK ABOUT O IS COMPLETE.
I THINK WE NEED TO, I JUST NOTICED FOR THE FIRST TIME THE AFFIDAVIT OF OWNERSHIP CAN'T BELIEVE A NOTARY, BUT IT IS, AND ACTUALLY I ALMOST BROUGHT A COPY OF ONE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS INAPPROPRIATE OF WHAT WE GOT FROM THE DISTRICT DID A MUCH, MUCH CLEANER JOB IN WHAT WE, HOW IT WAS DONE.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT IT, IT WAS DONE FROM IN THIS THAT THE LANDLORD GIVES PERMISSION AND THAT THAT'S YEAH.
NO, BUT IT SAYS IT GIVES THE COMPANY NOT THE, WE WENT THROUGH THIS WITH DALE PARKING BEFORE THEY, IT SAYS THE HARTSDALE PUBLIC PARKING DISTRICT BEING DULY SWORN DEPOSES AND SAYS THE PARKING DISTRICT, NOT A PERSON BUT THE PARKING DISTRICT.
WE, WE AND YOU NEVER MAKE OUT.
I KNOW THAT THAT'S WILLIAM SARDI'S SIGNATURE, BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN MENTION HIS NAME IN HIS DOCUMENT, THE PARKING DISTRICT.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? WOULD EVERYBODY IN THE PARKING DISTRICT, WOULD YOU LIKE IT CHANGED THAT HE SAYS ON BEHALF OF, 'CAUSE I WENT BACK AND FORTH ON THAT.
I PRINTED UP THE DISH ONE THAT HAS CLEARED THINGS FROM BROWN ALSO.
UM, AND THE DISH ONE HAS HIS NAME AND THIS ONE DOES NOT.
I ASSUME THIS IS IN EVERY APPLICATION THAT, THAT WE'RE DOING IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, RIGHT? WELL, IT IT'S DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE OTHERS ARE DIFFERENT.
WELL, WE COULD EVEN LOOK WITHOUT IT BEING AN OFFICIAL LOOK TO SEE WHAT THEY DO ON HOW THE AFFIDAVIT IS HANDLED.
IN THE OTHER EXAMPLE, THE NEXT A AFFIDAVIT, IT SAYS JEFFREY, BARBARA DO HERE THE NAME OF CROWN CASTLE BEING DULY SWORN.
I MEAN WE GIVE THEM ALLOW TO GO
WELL, YOU LEAVE, HAVE SPACE FOR THEM TO HAVE THEIR NAME.
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I WILL.BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SURE WHO, WHO EXACTLY IS GONNA BE SIGNING ON THEIR BEHALF.
AND IF THE PERSON, IF THE PERSON'S NOT NAMED HERE, THEY CERTAINLY SHOULD HAVE A NAME HERE.
UM, BEING TOO, I, I DON'T KNOW IF I MISSED THAT PRIOR APPLICATION, BUT WE'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH ON THAT AND, AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW WE ENDED UP, BUT I'M CHANGING IT TO INCOMPLETE AND ADDING AT THE, UM, HE'S THE MANAGER OF THIS TOP TOP DOG AT THE HOEL PARKING, RIGHT? YEAH.
HE IS THE CHAIR OF THE, UH, OF THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS.
ARE YOU WELCOME D I'M SORRY, D AS IN DAVID.
NO, NOTARIES ARE USUALLY VERY CAREFUL.
OKAY, SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE NOISE PROFILE, WHICH IS P THERE IS NO PROFILE TO MY EYE, BUT AGAIN, I DIDN'T SEE THE CHART BEFORE.
WHICH PART? DO YOU MIND TALKING LOUDER? YEAH, CAN I TALK LOUDER? I DON'T PLEASE, BECAUSE I'VE ALREADY RAISED MY, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? SORRY, I'M MY HEARING AIDS.
OKAY, SO I DO NOT SEE A NOISE PROFILE, BUT MAYBE I'M MISSING IT.
THIS IS SHEET C3 OF THE PLANS CONTAINS A NOISE STATING, UM, A NOTE STATING THAT THE PROTECTED SOUND LEVELS OF THE PROPOSED EQUIPMENT MEET THE NOISE REQUIREMENTS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
AS SUCH, UM, SOUNDS WILL NOT EXCEED 65 DDA AS MEASURED FROM THE CLOSEST POINT OF THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNED, RENTED, OR LEASED BY ANY PERSON COMPLAINING THAT SUCH SOUND IS UNREASONABLY INTRUSIVE.
UM, WE ASK FOR A PROFILE AND WE HAVE STUFFED OUR GUNS OR NOT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS ONE HERE THAT I'M MISSING.
NO, I I THINK THE, THE EQUIPMENT BEING ADDED IS JUST ANTENNA IS BEING REPLACED, WHICH GENERALLY DON'T MAKE NOISE.
SO I THINK THE ENGINEER PUT THIS NOTE ON THERE TO SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLIANT BECAUSE THE EQUIPMENT BEING ADDED IS NOT NOISE MAKING EQUIPMENT.
UM, AND THAT IT WILL BE COMPLIANT WITH THE, UM, REQUIREMENTS OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG BECAUSE IT WILL NOT EXCEED THE 65 DBA.
UM, I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S ON THERE TO, TO MEASURE THE, THE, TO PROVIDE A PROFILE.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT A PROFILE IS, BUT ANY MEASUREMENT OF THE, THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S BEING ADDED OR PLACED IS NOT, I MEAN AS, AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S AN ANTENNA AND CABLING AND NONE OF THAT MAKES REALLY ANY NOISE.
IT CERTAINLY WOULDN'T MAKE NOISE THAT WOULD EXCEED 65 DBA AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
I WOULD ALSO MENTION THAT THE CODE DOES SAY RENTAL LEASE BY ANY PERSON COMPLAINING THAT SUCH SOUND IS UNREASONABLY INTRUSIVE AT THIS POINT, AS FAR AS I'M AWARE, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY COMPLAINING ABOUT THAT.
THE SOUND IS UNREASONABLY INTRUSIVE.
SO IT'S, IT'S, UM, WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD THE SAME CONVERSATION WITH YOU IN THE PAST AND WE HAVE STEPPED TO THE, OUR GUNS THAT WE NEED TO PROFILE BECAUSE IF WE MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR YOU, WE MAKE AN AT MUST BY LAW MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR EVERYONE IN THE FUTURE.
AND WE CAN'T DO THAT AGAIN, UH, TO DO A REPORT ON SOME, I I WILL JUST STATE MY MY THING ONE MORE TIME AND I WILL TALK TO THE ENGINEER.
BUT TO DO A PROFILE ON SOMETHING THAT'S NOT A NOISE MAKING PIECE OF EQUIPMENT, UM, IS UM, SEEMS EXCESSIVE WHEN THEY CAN MAKE THIS STATEMENT SAYING THAT IT WILL NOT EXCEED, UH, GREENBERG'S REQUIREMENTS.
UM, AND I WILL MAKE MY STATEMENT CLEAR AGAIN, WHICH IS THAT WE DON'T BY NATURE TRUST PEOPLE TO JUDGE
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THEIR OWN WORK.WE, IF WE HAVE SPECIFICATIONS FOR IT, THEY MUST MEET THOSE.
AND IF WE ALLOW YOU TO MAKE THE RULES HERE FOR THIS, WE MUST MAKE EVERY SUBSEQUENT APPLICANT MUST GIVE EVERY SUBSEQUENT APPLICANT THE SAME LEEWAY.
AND WE WILL NOT DO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO TRUST EVERYTHING BEING REPRESENTED US IN WORDS AND WITHOUT ANYTHING TO SUBSTANTIATE IT.
AND I I'M JUST SAYING THAT THEY THANK YOU, THEY ARE MAKING THE STATEMENT THAT IT IS COMPLIANT AND IT IS STAMPED AND SEALED BY A LICENSE PE UM, OKAY.
PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR INSTALLATION.
THIS HAS BECOME A BIG DEAL FOR US AS YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THIS AT, UH, AT THE FIREHOUSE WHERE THE WORK NEVER ACTUALLY GOT DONE.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO TARGET WHEN THINGS ARE SUPPOSED TO.
GRANTED YOU WON'T KNOW UNTIL YOUR APPLICATION IS COMPLETE AND EVERYTHING IS PERMITTED, BUT YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO SAY, WE ARE TARGETING JANUARY OR WE'RE TARGETING DECEMBER OR WE'RE TARGETING WHATEVER TIME.
SO THAT IT, THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF CONFUSION WHEN YOU GUYS DIDN'T REPLACE THE ANTENNAS AT DIFFERENT PLACES.
THE GENERATOR DIDN'T COME OVER HERE.
BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, IT HELPS US UNDERSTAND.
SO WE NEED A, UM, A TARGETED WINDOW.
AND LET'S GO TO THE VIDEO TAPE.
UM, LET'S GO TO LOOKING AT, IT SAYS A PLAN ILLUSTRATING THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION, SIZE, ELEVATION, AND HEIGHT OF ALL PROPOSED AND EXISTING ANTENNAS AND ALL APARTMENT STRUCTURES IN ORDER TO DETERMINE IF THE DIMENSIONAL CHANGES TO THE ELIGIBLE SUPPORT STRUCTURE AS A RESULT OF THE PROGRAM.
I'M SORRY, IN ORDER TO DETERMINE IF THE DIMENSIONAL CHANGES TO THE ELIGIBLE SUPPORT STRUCTURE AS A RESULT OF THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS, THE PLAN SHALL INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION OF THE ANTENNAS AND ALL RELATED FIXTURES, STRUCTURES AND APP PERCES AND APPARATUS INCLUDING HEIGHT ABOVE UNDISTURBED GRADE, ELEVATION ABOVE GRADE, AND SEA LEVEL MATERIALS, COLOR SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING.
THE NAME OF THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF EACH ANTENNA SHALL BE DELINEATED ON THE PLAN.
IN LOOKING AT THIS IS, CAN YOU JUST DIRECT US TO WHERE THE OWNER OF THE TOWER IS? YEAH, I DON'T KNOW IF IT SAYS THE OWNER OF THE TOWER, NOT EXISTING
WHEN YOU SAY EXISTING DISH EQUIPMENT, IS THAT ANTENNAS OR IS WHAT IS THAT? YES, THAT'S THEIR ANTENNAS AND OR ELSE THEY HAVE AT THAT.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT DISH HAS AT THAT LEVEL THAT WOULD INCLUDE EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED AT THAT LEVEL.
SORRY, I'M NOT SURE WHAT DISH HAS AT THAT LEVEL, BUT THAT WOULD BE THE WHERE THEIR ANTENNAS ARE ARE AND IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER EQUIPMENT, LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAVE RHS AT THAT LEVEL.
OKAY, YOU THIS WHAT YOU HAVE TO BE JUST AT THE TOP IT SAYS VERIZON EQUIPMENT TO BE REMOVED.
AND SO UNDER THAT IT SAYS THREE ANTENNAS AND SIX RRUS, RIGHT?
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IS THAT THE EQUIPMENT TO BE REMOVED IS AT THE TOP OF THE, ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE TOP OF THE POLE.SO WHAT UH, IS THAT THE TOTAL EQUIPMENT TO BE REMOVED AT THAT SPOT? YEAH, IT, YEAH, SO IT'S 3 3 3 ANTENNAS TO BE REMOVED AND SIX RR DOES E REPRESENT REFERENCE A GRID OR SOMETHING WHERE THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THE LETTERS OR WHAT DOES E STAND FOR EXISTING? FRANCIS? HAVEN'T WE ALWAYS REQUIRED IDENTIFICATION OF WHAT EQUIPMENT MEANS? YOU LOOK AT THE DRAWINGS ON TOP, EVERYTHING SAYS IT SAYS MTA EQUIPMENT.
YEAH, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THAT EQUIPMENT IS.
YEAH, THAT'S NOT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
SO WHAT I WROTE HERE IS REMOVE AND I PUT IN PARENT EQUIPMENT, IDENTIFY WHAT EQUIPMENT CONSTITUTES AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THROUGHOUT HERE.
UM, SO THE OTHER CARRIER'S EQUIPMENT, IF THAT'S A, A WOOD ANTENNA AT THE TOP, WHAT THAT IS YEAH, THROUGHOUT.
AND IF YOU PULL UP OLD DRAWINGS FROM OTHER THINGS, IF YOU GO TO THE TOWN BOARD BEFORE YOU, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, BEFORE YOU LEAVE, YOU'LL SEE THAT THAT'S WHAT IS, IT'S NOT LISTED AS EQUIPMENT FOR ANYONE.
CAN YOU LOOK AT THE RIGHT SIDE AND EXPLAIN SOMETHING TO ME? WHAT'S THAT? WHICH IS ON THE TOP LEFT OF IT, IT SAYS TOP OF TOWER ELEVATION 84 FEET.
IF YOU GO TO THE RIGHT SIDE AND YOU GO DOWN, IT SAYS E EQUALS 85 FEET, WHICH IS A FOOT HIGHER, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THE POLE AND IT SAYS ZERO MONOPOLE TOWER, WHICH IS A POLE DIFFERENCE IN FOOT.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND, DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M YEAH, THAT, THAT'S THE ENGINEER ABOUT THAT ONE.
UM, FRANCIS, DO YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? YEAH.
I'M ACTUALLY HUNG ABOUT ON PAGE TWO, WHICH JUST GET, GET OVER.
LEMME JUST DO THAT AND THEN I GET TO YOUR ISSUE.
WHAT, WHAT DOES THIS MEAN HERE? PLEASE NOTE THAT ALL WORK PROPOSED WILL BE ON EXISTING MONOPOLE AT THE BASE THEREOF.
OBVIOUSLY YOU'RE NOT PUTTING THE ANTENNAS AT THE BASE.
NO, SORRY TO BE AND AT THE BASE THERE.
ARE YOU PUTTING ANYTHING DIFFERENT THAN THE CABINETS OF THE BASE? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
NO, THE THE ONE THAT SAYS PLEASE NOTE THAT ALL WORK PROPOSED WILL BE ON THE EXISTING MODEL.
BUT IT SHOULD BE ON THE EXISTING MODEL BOWL
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AND THE BASE THEREOF.I KNOW THE ANTENNAS HAVE TO KEEP COMING LOWER AND LOWER AND LOWER.
BUT STILL
IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS SIDE IT SAYS 85 FEET TOP OF THE POLAR TOWER.
SO SOMETHING AND THE DRAWING AND THE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY REPORT SAYS 84.
WITH THE 74 HAVING GOT IT 10 B WHICH 84 COPPER TOWER.
SO THEN WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE HEIGHT OF UM, IS HE PERTINENT TO AN ANTENNA? WHAT, WHAT ARE THE GOALPOSTS? THOSE ARE THE MTA BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY ARE.
WE WANT TO KNOW WHETHER THEY'RE MONOPOLES OR WHAT 'CAUSE THEY'RE IDENTIFIED AS EQUIPMENT.
SO AND THE TOP OF STRUCTURE WITH A CE, I THINK THEY'RE SAYING THAT THEY AT THE BOTTOM THEY'VE INCLUDED THEM.
YEAH, BUT ANTENNA IS NOT REALLY AN A PERCE.
THEY MAY HAVE JUST TYPED IT AROUND.
SO I'LL, I'LL TALK TO THE ENGINEER.
SO IF THAT'S REVISED TO CROWN 84 FOOT MONOPOLE TOWER, IS THAT THAT WHAT WE'RE YOU'RE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IDENTIFYING THE MONOPOLE OWNER OWNER'S.
CROWN FRANCIS IS REFERRING TO THE FACT THAT THE TOP OF THE POLE SAYS TOP OF STRUCTURE WITH THE PS.
IT DOESN'T SAY WITH ANTENNAS AS IN ADDITION BECAUSE THE PERS ARE NOT, ANTENNAS ARE NOT A PERS AND DO I HAVE YOU RIGHT FRANCIS? YES.
IT ALSO HAS THE EXISTING MDA EQUIPMENT AT 84 FEET WHEN CLEARLY IT GOES HIGHER, BUT THEY'RE POINTING TO THE BASE.
WE DON'T YEAH, WHEN DID THE MT A GO OUT THERE? IT'S BEEN UP THERE FOR A LONG TIME.
AND THAT WAS SOMETHING BECAUSE THEY ARE A, YEAH, SO JUST SO I'M GONNA GET THIS REVISED OR WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.
LET, LET ME LET, LET ME FINISH GOING, MAKING THE LIST AND THEN WE CAN GO OVER THAT.
I WOULDN'T EVEN CALL IT THE TOP OF THE STRUCTURE BECAUSE I WOULD CALL IT THE TOP OF THE MDA EQUIPMENT, THE STRUCTURE, THE BOTTOM BALL.
YOU AGREE WE, SO WE CAN SIT TAB THE TA.
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SO CROWN CASTLE WAS CALLING MS SITE SCARSDALE TOO.I BELIEVE THAT'S THEIR NAME OF FOR IT'S NOT OURS.
IT'S NOT VERIZON, IT'S NOT VERIZON'S BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWO MONOPOLES.
SO THAT MIGHT BE WHAT THAT MAY MEAN THAT THE OTHER ONE BECAME SITE ONE AND AS SCARSDALE ONE THERE'S A DALE POST OFFICE WHAT IT DOES, BUT THEY'VE DUNMORE ROAD IS ALWAYS BECAUSE IT SITS THERE AND UH, THAT'S AN INTERNAL NAME WHICH WE WOULD HAVE VERY LOW CONTROL OVER.
I HAVE, YEAH, VERY LITTLE CONTROL OVER THAT TOO.
AND SOME OF THEM ARE VERY CONFUSING.
LIKE THE ONE ON NINE A, WHICH MAKES ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE AT ALL.
SO THE CENTER OF SIGNAGE THAT YOU HAVE LISTED HERE, IS THAT ALL SIGNAGE IN THAT? UH, AND THE BOTTOM COLUMN TOP OF, UM, IT'S IF YOU LEFT SIDE THE SECOND FROM THE BOTTOM ON, ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF IT SAYS RIGHT UNDER TOP OF MTA SHELTER, IT SAYS CENTER OF SIGNAGE, RICE.
YOU HAVE YOUR, I KNOW CENTER OF SIGNAGE FIVE FEET.
BUT WHAT SIGNAGE IS THIS? 'CAUSE YOU WOULD BE PUTTING, IS THAT ALL OF THE SIGNAGE YOU HAVE? I THINK SO.
THE, THE TWO SIGNS THAT ARE ON C SIX, I BELIEVE.
I I THINK YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER ON THE, I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A WHITE BLOCK.
YEAH, BUT I THINK THAT'S THAT THE WHITE BLOCK REPRESENT THE TWO SIGNS I NEED.
WE NEED YOU TO CONFIRM WHITE BLOCKS, BUT THAT IS WHAT THE SIGNAGE IS.
WHAT IS THAT? IS THAT THE DOOR? WHY WAS THAT PICK? WHAT IS THAT WHERE THAT IS LOCATED? NORMALLY THEY PUT IT ON A DOOR 'CAUSE UM, YOU SEE A ON YOUR JOINTS C TWO IT SAYS FOOT SIGNAGE MOUNTED TO FACIAL GATE.
THERE IT'S, AND THAT'S WHERE I'LL PUT THE TWO SIGNS.
SO JUST IDENTIFY THAT THE TWO SIGNS ARE THERE.
I'LL PUT TWO, YEAH, TWO SIGNS AND I'LL REFERENCE THE GOOD, THE C SIX, FOUR AND FIVE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING HERE ABOUT LIGHTING? UM, C ONE IT SAYS IS EXISTING MOTION LAID MOUNT TO SHELTER? THERE'S NO NEW LIGHTING PROPOSED.
SO CAN IS THAT WRITTEN SOMEPLACE? I THINK IT SAYS THERE'S NO LIGHTING PROPOSED IN CONNECTION WITH THE WORK.
WELL IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SAY NO NEW LIGHTING BECAUSE YOU HAVE LIGHTING.
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LET'S GO BACK TO THE COLOR YOU HAVE WRITTEN ON SAY NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTING.THERE ARE NO NEW LIGHTING, NO ADDITIONAL.
YEAH, I WANTED TO LOOK AT THIS FENCING NOT THAT LONG AGO.
A YEAR AGO WITH FRANK AND LIZ.
AND I KNOW THE FENCING NEEDED WORK AT THE TIME.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S BEEN DONE BUT THAT'S NOT, THAT'S THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WOULD USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SAY THAT THAT HAD TO BE DONE.
BUT IT'S NOT VERIZON'S RESPONSIBILITY.
I BELIEVE IT'S, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S CROWN'S.
AND IF YOU COULD REVIEW THE INSURANCE, IT'S GOOD.
OKAY, SO ON A, YOU'RE GONNA FIND OUT ABOUT A LICENSE NUMBER FOR THE RADIO FREQUENCY ENGINEER.
I WILL SEE WHAT, WHAT INFORMATION HE HAS.
B THROUGH B THROUGH E ARE COMPLETE.
F IS INCOMPLETE BECAUSE YOU NEED AN AFFIDAVIT TO INCLUDE THE NAME OF THE BOARD CHAIR OF CLARKDALE PARKING.
WHOEVER THEIR DESIGNATED REPRESENTATIVE IS.
UM, SEVERAL CONCLUDE AFFIDAVIT TO INCLUDE NAME OF AUTHORITY, EEG, BOARD CHAIR OF PARKDALE PARKING, UM, G INCOMPLETE 'CAUSE IT NEEDS TO LIST ALL THE WORK.
UM, H AS A COO FOR THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE IS NEEDED.
AND I'VE ADDED FROM 2020 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY ADDED THE 10 FEET I THROUGH O IS COMPLETE.
PROVIDE A TARGET DATE OR MONTH, YEAR SOME AND WHAT YOUR TARGET IS FOR DOING IT.
UM, IF, UM, R IS COMPLETE IN S WE HAVE CONFIRMED WITH WHERE SIGNAGE WILL BE PLACED.
UM, IDENTIFY AS TOP OF MTA TA ANTENNAS ON THE DRAWINGS CORRECT.
TOP OF STRUCTURE WITH S TO INCLUDE AND ANTENNAS.
UH, TOWER OWNER NEEDS TO BE ADDED.
UM, REMOVE THE WORD EQUIPMENT AND IDENTIFY WHAT EQUIPMENT CONSTITUTES IDENTIFY THAT NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTING WILL BE ADDED.
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OKAY.UM, T IS COMPLETE, U IS COMPLETE.
AND I'M GONNA INITIAL AND THEN ASK YOU TO INITIAL AFTER I ASK TO, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT SPEAKING LOUDLY ENOUGH.
I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT TO ME.
SO WHEN PEOPLE DON'T SPEAK LOUDLY ENOUGH, I HATE IT.
AND I WAS JUST THINKING THAT I'M SORRY THAT I DIDN'T SPEAK LOUDLY.
SHE NEVER, I WAS JUST, YOU WERE JUST WHAT I ALSO ADDED THE CORRECT PAGE TWO, SECOND PARAGRAPH.
INCLUDE WORD AND I MOVE THAT WE DEEMED THIS APPLICATION INCOMPLETE.
I ENDED OUT WITH A MAGNIFYING GLASS
I KNOW I SHOULD HAVE MENTIONED THIS STILL ON THE RECORD, BUT HERE IT SAYS 85 AND THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS SAYS 84 AND THEN THE DRAWING HAS TWO DIFFERENT NUMBERS.
SO BILL HAS TO STILL ON THE RECORD.
IT'S YES, IT'S STILL ON THE RECORD, ISN'T IT? YEAH.
SO I MEAN IT'S JUST, WE VOTED TO DEEM IT INCOMPLETE BECAUSE IT'S INCOMPLETE.
UM, BUT THE FACT THAT IT SAYS 85, IT SHOULD BE CORRECTED, ONE IS CORRECTED, IT'S EITHER 84 8, 5, 10 PER PERMIT AND NOW IT'S 85.
THAT'S ALSO NOT, I ALWAYS HAVE TO REMEMBER, AND I DIDN'T GO TO THE PLACES IN THE BOOK.
YOU SHOULD BOTH INITIAL THE INCOMPLETE THEN I SIT NEXT TO GINA.
WE DON'T HAVE BOXES FOR INCOMPLETE OR INCOMPLETE HERE.
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NO, WE, WE HAVE, WE DON'T FOR THAT.THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T HAVE IN THE FUTURE.
I DON'T THINK YOU ACTUALLY CLOSED THAT BOX.
YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU'RE JUST ABOUT LOSING
OKAY, NOW YOU SIR, DID WE PUT THE RIGHT-HANDED PEOPLE ON THAT SIDE OF THE TABLE AND THE LEFT-HANDED PEOPLE ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE
I DIDN'T KNOW YOU WERE LEFT-HANDED.
YEAH, I'VE BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME SINCE BIRTH.
HOW COULD I NOT KNOW? EVEN THOUGH LEFT-HANDED PEOPLE LEARN TO DO THINGS WITH THEIR RIGHT-HANDED BECAUSE OF ALL OF THE DISCRIMINATORY TOOLS AND EQUIPMENT THAT THEY, AND, AND FOR SO LONG WE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, SOCIETY CONDEMNED WITH LEFT-HANDED, THEY WERE ONE OF THE DEVIL, WELL, SINISTER AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING.
I THINK THE SIDE OF THE TABLE WOULD DISAGREE WITH THAT.
SO I UM, AM GOING TO GO UPSTAIRS OKAY.
SO IF YOU WOULD BE SO KIND AS TO PAUSE THE RECORDING WHILE I'M GONE MM-HMM
THE OFFICIAL PASSING OF THE DOCUMENT RECEIVED.
AND I, I LOVE THE OWL BECAUSE I GOT THE TRANSFER AND BOTH OF YOU OKAY.
UM, SO I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ADJOURN.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? OH GOD, YES.
ALRIGHT MICHAEL, WE'LL SEE YOU AT FIVE O'CLOCK ON MONDAY.