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TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES.WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD MEETING.
APOLOGIZE THAT WE, UH, ARE STARTING A HALF HOUR LATE.
UH, THERE WAS A LITTLE PROBLEM, A TECHNICAL PROBLEM WITH A PRINTER.
[ PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE]
AND, UM, WE'LL START WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.MY PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND SERVE THE REPUBLIC FOR THE STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER INDIVISIBLE WITH THE LIBERTY JUSTICE FOR ALL.
[ MOMENT OF SILENCE In memory of those around the world who have perished as victims of war, disease and natural disaster. Our hearts are with all who needlessly suffer.]
PLEASE REMAIN STANDING AND IN MEMORY OF THOSE AROUND THE WORLD HAVE PERISHED AS VICTIMS OF WAR DISEASE AND NATURAL DISASTER ERROR.HEARTS ARE WITH THOSE WHO NEEDLESSLY, UH, SUFFER.
[ ROLL CALL: Town Clerk Lisa Maria Nero]
ON NOW THE ROLL CALL.COUNCILWOMAN HABER PRESENT, COUNCILWOMAN HENDRICKS, PRESENT TOWN ATTORNEY AND PARLIAMENTARIAN, MR. JOE DANKO PRESENT.
SO, UH, BECAUSE WE STARTED LATE, WE'RE GONNA DO, UH, SHORTER COMMENTS FROM ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE, UH, TO MAKE UP FOR A LOST TIME.
[ To discuss modifications to an approved 113-unit residential subdivision development as it relates to a prior Town Board SEQRA Findings Statement for the site of the former Elmwood Country Club located at 850 Dobbs Ferry Road (P.O. White Plains, NY)]
SO, THE FIRST, UH, HEARING IS, UM, TO DISCUSS MODIFICATIONS TO AN APPROVED 113 UNIT RESIDENTIAL SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENT AS IT RELATES TO A PRIOR TOWN BOARD SEEKER FINDING STATEMENT FOR THE SITE OF THE FORMER ELMWOOD COUNTRY CLUB, LOCATED AT EIGHT 50 DOBBS FERRY ROAD.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE OPEN UP THE HEARING.
FINER AND TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD, GARY KING, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION ON AUGUST 10TH, 2022, THE TOWN BOARD CONCLUDED A MULTI-YEAR ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW RELATED TO VARIOUS RESIDENTIAL REUSE PROPOSALS FOR THE FORMER ELMWOOD COUNTRY CLUB ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD AND APPROVED A SEEKER FINDING STATEMENT, WHICH SUPPORTED THE REUSE OF THE SITE FOR A CONSERVATION SUBDIVISION WITH 113 ONE FAMILY RESIDENCES ACCESSED FROM TWO ENTRANCES, ENTRANCES FROM DOBBS FERRY ROAD, ONE OF WHICH IS A FULL MOVEMENT DRIVEWAY IN THE VICINITY OF THE CHELSEA ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY.
THE OTHER DRIVEWAY IS A RIGHT IN RIGHT OUT ONLY ROADWAY OPPOSITE WESTCHESTER VIEW LANE.
THE TERM CONSERVATION SUBDIVISION REFERS TO THE FACT THAT THE 113 INDIVIDUAL LOTS TO HAVE HOMES WILL AVERAGE BETWEEN 18,000 AND 20,000 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS SIGNIFICANTLY LESS THAN WHAT THE TYPICAL ZONING PERMITS.
THIS WAS INTENTIONALLY PLANNED AND HAS THE BENEFIT OF CONSERVING AND MAXIMIZING OVERALL GREEN SPACE ON THE SITE REPRESENTED BY THE FUTURE 25 ACRES OF HOA COMMONLY OWNED AND PRESERVED OPEN SPACE TO BE.
THE 20, THIS 25 ACRES IS IN ADDITION TO THE 14.2 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE THAT WILL BE TRANSFERRED TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG BY THE OWNER UPON COMPLETION OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL RE REMEDIATION, WHICH THE TOWN WILL ANNEX TO EASTBROOK PARK AND EVENTUALLY BUILD IT OUT WITH A SERIES OF ACTIVE AND PASSIVE PARK IMPROVEMENTS.
THE 25 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE IS ALSO IN ADDITION TO THE OPEN SPACE ON THE INDIVIDUAL RESIDENTIAL LOTS, WHICH WILL HAVE SUBSTANTIAL LANDSCAPING.
THE PROJECT WILL ALSO INCLUDE A SIDEWALK THROUGHOUT THE DEVELOPMENT AND A SIDEWALK ALONG PORTIONS OF DOBBS FERRY AND WORTHINGTON ROADS BENEFITING BOTH NEW RESIDENTS AND EXISTING RESIDENTS IN THE AREA, AND WILL FILL AN IMPORTANT GAP IN THE TOWN SIDEWALK NETWORK.
SINCE THE TOWN BOARD ADOPTED FINDING STATEMENT, WHICH CONTAINS COMPREHENSIVE SAFEGUARDS TO ENSURE THAT THE PROJECT IS CONSTRUCTED IN A SAFE MANNER BOTH ONSITE AND OFFSITE.
REGARDING ACCESS, THE APPLICANT HAS NEARLY COMPLETED APPROVALS WITH THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
THOSE ARE RELATED TO WATER AND SEWER SERVICE IS ALMOST COMPLETE WITH THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL CONSERVATION AND THAT PERMITTING PROCESS RELATED TO THE CLEANUP OF THE SITE.
THERE'S FORMER CONTAMINANTS AS A RESULT OF THE PRIOR USE THE GOLF COURSE AND IS ALMOST COMPLETE WITH THE NEW YORK STATE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PERMIT PROCESS RELATED TO THE ENTRANCES AND SIDEWALK APPROVALS.
THE DEVELOPER UPON APPROVAL FROM THE DEC WILL REMEDIATE THE ENTIRE SITE TO A ONE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL REUSE STANDARD WITH THE ONLY RESTRICTION BEING THAT WELL WATER CANNOT BE USED FOR POTABLE WATER, WHICH IS NOT APPLICABLE TO THE SITE AS IT IS DESIGNED TO BE FULLY CONNECTED TO THE TOWN'S CONSOLIDATED WATER DISTRICT.
THE NEW YORK STATE DEC IS REQUIRING THE DEVELOPER TO EX EXCAVATE THE ENTIRE SITE AS PART OF THE CLEANUP, WHICH INCLUDES PERIPHERY AREAS OF THE SITE
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NOT INITIALLY ANTICIPATED TO BE DISTURBED.SOME OF THESE AREAS CONTAIN STEEP SLOPES AND TREES.
THIS IS A CHANGE FROM PRIOR TOWN BOARD SEEKER FINDINGS.
THERE IS ALSO ADDITIONAL EXPORT OF MATERIAL FROM THE SITE PLANNED IN CONNECTION WITH THE CLEANUP AS A RESULT OF ADDITIONAL TESTING THAT'S BEEN DONE AND AS A RESULT OF THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENT THAT THIS MATERIAL WILL NOT BE REUSED IN ANY RIGHT OF WAY, AREAS OR OTHER AREAS WITHIN THE SITE.
ASIDE FROM THAT, THE PROJECT IS VERY CONSISTENT WITH PRIOR APPROVALS, MEANING NO CHANGES TO LOT LINES, ROADWAY CONFIGURATIONS, THE NUMBER OF STORMWATER BASINS OR THOSE REQUIREMENTS PERTAINING TO CONTAIN STORM WATER, BOTH ON THE LOTS AND IN COMMON AREAS.
THE SITE OWNERS PLANNING AND ENGINEERING TEAM WILL IN A FEW MOMENTS PRESENT TO THE TOWN BOARD AND THE PUBLIC AN OVERVIEW OF THESE AREAS AND PROVIDE DATA ON THE CHANGES IN TEMPORARY DISTURBANCE AREAS.
THEY WILL ALSO DESCRIBE THE ADDITIONAL PLANTING PLAN TO ACCOUNT FOR THESE ADDITIONAL LAND DISTURBANCES IN TERMS OF PRIOR ENVIRONMENTAL FINDINGS AND FOLLOWING THE PUBLIC HEARING.
TOWN STAFF WILL PREPARE UPDATED FINDINGS REFLECTIVE OF THE ADDITIONAL DISTURBANCES AND FINDINGS THAT ALSO REAFFIRM ALL OF THE PRIOR CONSTRUCTION AND POST-CONSTRUCTION REQUIREMENTS.
RESIDENTS HAVE RECENTLY SUBMITTED GOOD QUESTIONS REGARDING CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC SAFETY, EROSION CONTROL, AND THE CLEANUP PROTOCOL, WHICH WE HAVE ASKED TO BE COVERED TONIGHT IN THE PRE PRESENTATION AS WELL.
'CAUSE THESE ARE IMPORTANT ISSUES FOR NEIGHBORS AND THE TOWN.
THE LAST ASPECT THAT I'D LIKE TO NOTE IS THAT THE DEVELOPERS SUCCESSFUL AND EFFICIENT CLEANUP OF THE 14.2 ACRES TO THE SAME RESIDENTIAL HIGH STANDARD AS THE REST OF THE SITE WILL NOT ONLY READY THAT ACREAGE FOR A FUTURE EXPANDED EAST BROOK PARK, IT WILL ALSO FACILITATE THE TOWN'S FUTURE COORDINATION WITH THE NEW YORK STATE DOT, WHO IS ACTIVELY DESIGNING THE SPRAIN BROOK PARKWAY RAMP REALIGNMENT AND SIGNAL PROJECT AT THE SOUTHBOUND ON AND OFF RAMPS.
AND THAT'S A DIRECT RESULT OF AN CREDITED TO THIS APPLICANT FOR, UM, THE MITIGATION THAT THEY'VE AGREED TO, AND MUCH CREDIT TO THE TOWN BOARD, OF COURSE, AS WELL AS THE DOT WHO'S MAKING A SUBSTANTIAL COMMITMENT TO MAKE THE SA THE AREA SAFER FOR EVERYONE.
SO WITH THAT, I'D LIKE TO TURN IT OVER TO THE APPLICANT FOR BRIEF PRESENTATION.
UH, GOOD EVENING FOR THE RECORD.
DIEGO VI WITH JMC, THE PLANNING AND ENGINEERING CONSULTANT THAT HAS BEEN, UH, WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT SINCE THE INCEPTION OF THIS PROJECT HERE.
HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS EVENING.
WE ARE HERE WITH THE BALANCE OF OUR DEVELOPMENT TEAM, INCLUDING THE APPLICANT, AND HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, OBVIOUSLY AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE PRESENTATION.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO TAKE A FEW MOMENTS AS MR. DUANE HAD INDICATED, JUST TO TAKE YOU THROUGH SOME OF THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE MADE AND SOME OF THE CHANGES AS A RESULT OF THE REMEDIAL WORK THAT WOULD BE DONE AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
SO, UM, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT JUST TO REEMPHASIZE AGAIN, UM, UH, AS MR. DECANE HAD INDICATED THAT THERE WERE NO CHANGES MADE TO THE OVERALL SUBDIVISION PLAN, THE ACCESS POINTS WHERE THE PROPERTY, THE ROADWAYS ARE LOCATED, THE INDIVIDUAL LOT CONFIGURATIONS, ALL OF THAT HAS REMAINED IDENTICAL TO THE PRELIMINARY SUBDIVISION APPROVAL THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE PLANNING BOARD.
THIS, UH, THE CHANGES THAT WERE MADE TO THE PLAN ARE SIMPLY RELATED TO THE REMEDIAL WORK THAT IS GONNA BE COMPLETED ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH INCLUDES EXCAVATION OF HIS ADDITIONAL MATERIAL AND REMOVAL OF IT OFF SITE.
AND I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO NOTIFY, UH, TO POINT OUT AS WELL.
SO, UM, THE, THE WORK ITSELF IS REALLY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY.
UM, THE LAND DISTURBANCE, ORIGINALLY IT WAS CONTEMPLATED, THERE WERE AREAS ON THE PROPERTY AROUND THE PERIMETER WITHIN THE BALANCE OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF THAT WERE PROPOSED TO REMAIN UNDISTURBED MORE IN A NATURAL STATE, AND WERE GOING TO BE REMEDIATED THROUGH THE TESTING THAT WAS COMPLETED ON THE PROPERTY.
THESE AREAS DO CONTAIN SOME OF THOSE CONTAMINANTS, SO OBVIOUSLY THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO INTO THOSE AREAS TO REMEDIATE IT, TO REMOVE THE SOIL FROM THE SITE.
HOWEVER, IN WORKING WITH, UH, TOWN STAFF IN WORKING WITH, UH, UH, YOUR CONSULTANTS, WE'VE DEVELOPED ADDITIONAL PLANS THAT WOULD REMEDIATE THOSE AREAS, AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN THE PACKAGES THAT HAVE BEEN PROVIDED TO THE BOARD.
UM, SO ALL OF THE AREAS ON SITE, BASICALLY THE REVISED PROJECT PRETTY MUCH CONCLUDES THAT THE ENTIRE SITE WILL BE DISTURBED IN SOME FASHION.
UM, WE ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED REMOVAL OF MATERIAL FROM THE SITE THAT WAS CONTEMPLATED DURING THE ORIGINAL APPROVAL.
THAT NUMBER INCREASED FROM 50,000 YARDS TO 90,000 YARDS.
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MATERIAL WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE IN ITS ENTIRETY.AND I JUST GONNA TAKE THIS MOMENT, I KNOW THERE WAS A NUMBER OF COMMENTS THAT WERE PROVIDED AND SOME OF WHICH WE'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH.
I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THAT MATERIAL IS NOT BEING REPLACED.
IT'S NOT LIKE FOR EVERY YARD OF MATERIAL THAT WE'RE TAKING OFF THE SITE, THAT WE ARE BRINGING A YARD BACK IN TO REPLACE IT.
THE IDEA AND THE WAY THE PLAN HAS BEEN DEVELOPED, THE SITE WILL BE REMEDIATED.
THAT WILL BE THE NEW EXISTING GRADE ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE PROJECT WILL BE CONSTRUCTED THERE.
ANY NOTATIONS TO EXCAVATION AND FILL THAT'S BEING DONE IS ALL BEING DONE WITHIN THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
WE'RE GONNA WORK WITH THE BALANCE OF THE MATERIAL THAT'S THERE, MOVE THE DIRT AROUND ON SITE, AND THE SITE WILL BE BALANCED MOVING FORWARD.
THE INTENTION IS NOT TO REPLACE MATERIAL, AND THE SAME THING GOES FOR THE PARK PARCEL.
THERE IS ABOUT 30,000 YARDS OF MATERIAL THAT WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE PARK PARCEL ITSELF.
AND THEN THERE WAS A GRADING PLAN SHOWING THE POST REMEDIAL GRADING THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED ON THE GOLF COURSE PARCEL, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, ON THE PARK PARCEL THAT WILL ULTIMATELY BE TRANSFERRED TO THE MUNICIPALITY.
UM, YOU MEAN THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE, YOU MEAN THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ADDITIONAL FILL BECAUSE YOU HAVE HAD FILL BROUGHT ONTO THE SITE? THE ONLY FILL MATERIAL, AGAIN, THAT, THAT WAS RELATED TO THE DEMOLITION, AND I'M, UH, KIND OF KEEPING THAT A LITTLE BIT SEPARATE BECAUSE THAT WAS ASSOCIATED WITH SPECIFICALLY THE DEMOLITION OF SOME OF THE BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY AND SOME OF THE FILL MATERIAL THAT WAS USED TO BACKFILL SOME OF THE HOLES.
IN THIS CASE, I'M JUST SIMPLY REFERRING TO THE REMEDIATION WORK.
SO CONTAMINATED MATERIAL THAT EXISTS ON THE SITE TODAY THAT'S GONNA HAVE TO BE REMOVED, WILL NOT BE REPLACED.
AND I THINK THE CONCERN WAS TRUCK TRAFFIC.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT, WE DON'T NEED TO REPLACE MATERIAL, IT JUST NEEDS TO BE HAULED OFF.
WE DO NOT NEED TO REPLACE IT ON SITE TO CONSTRUCT THE PROJECT.
JUST ANOTHER CLARIFICATION OF COURSE, I WAS JUST WONDERING HOW YOU CAN DO WHAT YOU WERE PLANNING TO DO WITHOUT ADDITIONAL FILL.
YEAH, SO IT, IT'S THE SIZE OF THE PROPERTY THAT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE OVERALL SIZE OF THE PROPERTY AND THE QUANTITY OF MATERIAL THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED, REMOVED.
A MAJORITY OF THE CONTAMINANTS ARE LOCATED WITHIN THIS FIRST SIX INCHES TO FOOT OF THE MATERIAL ON THE SITE.
WE ARE NOT EXCAVATING THE ENTIRE SITE DOWN SIX OR EIGHT FEET AND SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
THAT REQUIRES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT.
YOU'RE REALLY REMOVING THAT TOP LAYER OF MATERIAL WHERE THOSE CONTAMINANTS ARE LOCATED AND THERE'S ENOUGH ARTICULATION IN THE GRADE HERE.
THERE'S UPS, THERE'S DOWNS, THERE'S DIFFERENT AREAS THAT SIT HIGH.
WE'RE ABLE TO MAKE SOME MODIFICATIONS TO THOSE AREAS AND USE THAT MATERIAL IN OTHER SPOTS.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST WORKING WITH THE GRADES.
AND THE LAST PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE BOARD, I'M SORRY, I TALK
UH, THE LAST PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED SHOWS HOW WE'RE BALANCING THOSE GRADES.
YEAH, NO, I'M, I THOUGHT YOU WERE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT, NO.
UM, SO YOU MENTIONED THAT THE INITIAL PLAN CALLED OUT FOR A REMOVAL OF 50,000 YARDS APPRO, APPROXIMATELY.
AND IT, THAT WILL NOW INCREASE TO 90,000 YARDS FOR THE PROPERTY ON THE RESIDENTIAL PORTION? ON THE RESIDENTIAL PART, YES.
AND 30,000 FEET WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE PARK PROPERTY? CORRECT.
AND THAT, WAS THAT PLAN DONE BEING REMOVED IN THE FIRST PLACE? OR IS THERE AN ADDITIONAL NO, THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL, THAT'S ADDITIONAL.
SO THAT'S 120,000 ALTOGETHER TOTAL, TOTAL YARDAGE OF MATERIAL THAT WOULD BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE.
AND AGAIN, ALL CONTAMINATED MATERIAL.
NONE OF WHICH, AGAIN, THIS IS THE RESOLUTION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE, UM, PLANNING BOARD.
NONE OF THE MATERIAL CAN BE REUSED.
IT IS VERY TYPICAL TO TAKE THIS MATERIAL AND MAYBE PUT IT UNDER ROADWAYS, USE IT IN AREAS THAT ARE NOT INTENDED FOR RESIDENTIAL USE.
IN THIS CASE, THE ENTIRE SITE IS BEING CLEANED UP TO THIS VERY STRICT STANDARD.
SO NONE OF THE MATERIAL, IT'LL ALL BE REMOVED FROM THE SITE.
UM, BUT AGAIN, IT WAS IMPORTANT THAT WE DESIGN THE PLAN AND NOT HAVE TO BRING MATERIAL BACK IN.
WE DIDN'T WANT THAT OPERATION TO HAPPEN AS WELL.
SO, SO WHERE, WHAT DO YOU DO WITH IT IF IT'S NEVER TO BE USED AGAIN? IT'S NOT THAT IT'S NEVER TO BE USED AGAIN, IT'S JUST IT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE, UM, UH, THE TOWN'S REQUIREMENTS.
IT CAN'T BE USED ON THIS PROPERTY.
THERE ARE SEVERAL USES THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR.
THERE'S OTHER, UH, DEVELOPMENTS THAT MIGHT NEED FILL MATERIAL, UM, THAT, BECAUSE IT JUST DOESN'T MEET A RESIDENTIAL STANDARD REQUIREMENT, BUT IT STILL MEETS SEVERAL OTHER REQUIREMENTS AND COULD BE USED IN OTHER PLACES.
SO WHERE DO YOU BRING IT? IT DEPENDS.
IT IS, ITS VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE FOR US TO TELL YOU WHERE IT IS, WHERE IT WOULD GO.
NOW IT'S STRICTLY A TIMING THING.
WHEN THE TIME OF CONSTRUCTION HAPPENS, THEY EVALUATE THE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS AND THERE ARE PLACES IT COULD GO, AREAS OF NEW YORK, IT COULD GO TO NEW JERSEY, IT COULD GO OUT OF STATE.
IT REALLY IS DEPENDENT ON WHERE, UM, UH, AN ACCEPTING SOURCE IS BEING LOCATED AT THE TIME.
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WHAT, WHAT WHAT MIGHT BE RECEIVING MATERIAL TODAY, NEXT WEEK WON'T BE RECEIVING THE SAME MATERIAL.SO IT'S REALLY A TIMING FACTOR WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION ACTUALLY STARTS.
ARE, ARE THERE ANY, UH, TIME RESTRICTIONS IN TERMS OF WHEN THE TRUCKS COULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, PICKING UP AND DROPPING OFF? UH, WALKING.
JUST PICKING UP, YEAH, PICKING UP, PICKING UP AND REMOVING.
THAT WAS SOMETHING WE WERE JUST GONNA TOUCH ON TOWARDS THE END THERE.
WE DO KNOW THERE WERE SOME COMMENTS THAT WERE RECEIVED ABOUT THAT.
AND THERE IS NO SPECIAL REQUIREMENT HERE.
UH, THIS OPERATION WOULD FULLY COMPLY WITH THE TOWN OF GREENBERG'S REQUIREMENTS, HOURS OF OPERATIONS.
IT WOULD HAPPEN DURING THE WORKDAY.
THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT.
WE EXPECT THIS PROCESS TO HAPPEN OVER A SIX TO 10 OR SIX TO 12 MONTH PERIOD, DEPENDING ON THE EXTENT OF THE MATERIAL AND HOW A SOURCE IS LOCATED AND WHERE THOSE SOURCES, UH, WHERE THE, THE, THE SOURCE IS THAT REALLY WILL AFFECT THE DURATION OF THE, THE PROCESS ITSELF IS THERE.
BUT EVERYTHING WOULD HAPPEN DURING A TYPICAL WORKDAY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE TOWN FORCE.
AND IS THERE ANY METRIC ON HOW MANY TRUCKLOADS A DAY? IT, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE TO SAY EXACTLY, BECAUSE A BIG SOURCE OF, A BIG POINT OF THAT IS WHERE'S IT GOING? SO IF THERE IS A MORE LOCAL, UM, AREA THAT IT'S, UH, THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED, THEY COULD RUN MORE TRUCKS.
THEORETICALLY, IF IT'S A LITTLE FURTHER AWAY, IT'S LESS.
UM, BUT IT REALLY IS NO SPECIFIC METRIC.
BUT ON AVERAGE, MAYBE 20 TO 25 TRUCKS A DAY.
BUT NOT LEAVING ALL AT ONCE? NO, THIS WOULD HAPPEN PERIOD.
THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THEY LOAD A TRUCK AND THEN IT MIGHT GO, THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE NEXT TRUCK.
IT DOESN'T HAPPEN WHERE THEY'RE ALL STAGED, EVERYTHING HAPPENS AND THEY SEND THEM ALL AT ONCE.
IT JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN RIGHT IN THAT FASHION.
SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, UM, CREATING A LOG JAM OF TRAFFIC.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE OPERATIONS AND YOU THINK ABOUT THE TRUCK TRIPS THAT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED THROUGHOUT ANY GIVEN DAY, IT'S REALLY A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF TRAFFIC.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, WHERE THE PROJECT SITE IS LOCATED ON DOBBS FERRY ROAD, A STATE ROADWAY IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO NORWOOD ROAD, WHICH PROVIDES DIRECT ACCESS TO 2 87.
SO THERE IS VERY DIRECT ACCESS TO AND FROM MAJOR HIGHWAYS FOR THE TRUCK TRAFFIC TO COME TO AND FROM THE SITE.
SO WHEN, WHAT IS THE DURATION AGAIN? YOU MAY HAVE MENTIONED IT AGAIN.
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON LOCATION, BUT BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW, WE CAN SAY ANYWHERE BETWEEN SIX AND 12 MONTHS TO DO THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED.
UM, THE SIX AND 12 MONTHS STARTING ROUGHLY WHEN, UH, I, I WOULD SAY AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
WE HAVE OBVIOUSLY AN AMENDED PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH.
UH, AS MR. DECANE HAD INDICATED, WE ARE VERY CLOSE TO WRAPPING UP OUR HEALTH DEPARTMENT APPROVAL.
UH, VERY CLOSE TO OBVIOUSLY COMPLETING SOME OF THAT WITH THE, THE WORK WITH THE DEC.
UM, WE STILL HAVE TO FILE FINAL PLAT DRAWINGS AND THEN THE INTENTION WOULD TO START CONSTRUCTION SHORTLY THEREAFTER.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR, UH, THE, UM, FOR THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS TO BE MADE BEFORE YOU COULD ACTUALLY START.
WHICH ROAD IMPROVEMENTS? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE PARK, THE, THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS OF THE STATE DOTS DOING NO, YOU MEAN THE RAMP IMPROVEMENT? THE RAMP, THE RAMP IMPROVEMENTS ARE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT.
THIS OPERATION WOULD'VE BE ABLE TO HAPPEN, OBVIOUSLY STANDALONE.
WE'RE OBLIGATED TO CONSTRUCT A SERIES OF IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE FRONTAGE OF OUR PROPERTY.
UM, ALL OF WHICH WOULD BE DONE AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
THIS IS REALLY A TWO PHASE PROCESS.
THE REMEDIATION WOULD HAPPEN FIRST WE'D DO THAT, STABILIZE THE SITE, AND THEN THEY WOULD MOVE ON TO CONSTRUCTION OF THE ROADWAY IN THE HOMES.
WHEN DO YOU THINK, UH, WE WILL ACTUALLY, UH, TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THE PARKLAND? SOME POINT IN 2026? PROBABLY TOWARDS THE END OF 2026.
BY THE TIME THE PROCESS, AGAIN, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE REMEDIATED.
SO YOU HAVE TO FIGURE END OF 2026.
PERHAPS YOU CONTINUE WITH YOUR PRESENTATION.
UM, THE LAST POINT, I'LL BE QUICK.
UH, JUST IT, IT WAS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE GOING INTO SOME OF THESE AREAS, UH, THE AMENDED FINDINGS THAT'S BEING DISCUSSED, OBVIOUSLY IT'S REALLY RELATED TO ADDITIONAL EARTH WORK AND EXCAVATION, ADDITIONAL DISTURBANCE AND TREE REMOVAL.
UM, THERE HAS BEEN A ROBUST LANDSCAPING PLAN THAT HAS BEEN DEVELOPED AS PART OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND NOW IT'S BEEN EVEN FURTHER ENHANCED WORKING WITH STAFF.
AS I INDICATED AT THE BEGINNING, UH, THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED THAT'S BEEN INCREASED, ESPECIALLY IN THE AREAS THAT WERE NOT CONTEMPLATED TO BE DISTURBED PREVIOUSLY.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE SITE PLAN, YOU CAN SEE THOSE DARKER GREEN AREAS.
THERE'S SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF LANDSCAPING THAT IS BEING PUT INTO THAT TO RESTORE IT.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE CONSERVATION AREA.
THIS PROCESS DID NOT REDUCE THE CONSERVATION AREA THAT IS BEING PROPOSED BY ONE SQUARE FOOT.
IT'S STILL THE SAME EXACT AREA.
IT'S JUST GONNA BE REMEDIATED AND THEN
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REPLANTED.THERE IS JUST ABOUT 1300 TREES THAT WOULD BE PROVIDED AS PART OF THIS, WHICH IS BASICALLY, UM, MEETING YOUR CODE TENFOLD.
IT'S ALMOST 10 TIMES MORE THAN WHAT'S REQUIRED, UH, BY YOUR ORDINANCE WITH THE TREE REPLACEMENT VALUES IN THE CALCULATIONS THAT ARE BEING PROVIDED.
THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTION BEFORE I ASKED IT.
THAT'S REALLY JUST AN OVERVIEW OF THE MODIFICATIONS THAT WERE MADE AND KIND OF THE PROJECT ON WHERE WE STAND TODAY.
WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE EVERETT LEWELLEN.
PLEASE NOTE WHILE HE APPROACHES THAT EACH SPEAKER WILL HAVE FIVE MINUTES, TIME WILL START WHEN YOU SAY YOUR NAME.
UH, WE ALSO HAVE CLOCKS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROOM, SO YOU COULD CHECK YOUR PROGRESS THROUGHOUT AND PLEASE STICK TO THE FIVE MINUTES.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT.
WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE GETS A CHANCE.
AND THIS IS ONLY ON, THIS HEARING IS ONLY ON THIS, UM, APPLICATION.
THE, THERE'LL BE PUBLIC COMMENTS AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN PEOPLE COULD SAY ANYTHING THEY WANT.
MY NAME IS ARD LEWELLEN AND I'M HERE SIMPLY BECAUSE MY PROPERTY CURRENTLY IS, UM, ADJACENT TO THE SITE.
AND DURING THE EXPIRATION, THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE.
'CAUSE I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE REMEDIATION, REMEDIATION OF THE SITE.
WHERE ARE THE CONTAMINATED SITE? PLEASE, PLEASE DIRECT COMMENTS TO THE BOARD.
AND THEN, OH, I'M OPPORTUNITY TO APPLY, I'M SORRY.
UH, WHERE ARE THE CONTAMINATED SITES LOCATED IN THE PROPERTY? AND SECONDLY, UM, HOW WILL THE PROPERTY BE SHORED UP AFTER THAT CONTAMINATED SOIL HAS BEEN REMOVED? UM, WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT THE RUNOFF THAT'S POSSIBLE FROM FROM THE SITE.
DO WE WANNA COLLECT ALL QUESTIONS FIRST AND THEN HAVE THE PRESENTER ANSWER EVERYTHING AT ONCE? I THINK THAT'D PROBABLY BE BEST.
YOU MAKE NOTE AND THEN WE'RE GONNA GET THE YEAH, YOU CAN, IF YOU CAN ANSWER THEM ALL AT ONCE, PRECISE ONES YOU MIGHT WANT US TO ANSWER ON THE FLY.
YEAH, I THINK, I THINK IT'S BETTER TOO.
OTHERS MAY HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS.
WE SHOULD HEAR FROM EVERYONE FIRST.
I, I ACTUALLY INTEND TO SPEAK.
MAY AVOID OTHER PEOPLE COMING UP.
HAPPY TO RESPOND TO THOSE TWO COMMENTS.
UH, OBVIOUSLY GREAT QUESTIONS.
I DIDN'T INCLUDE SOME OF THAT IN MY INITIAL, UM, PRESENTATION.
THE FIRST ONE, THE LOCATION OF THE CONTAMINANTS, JUST TO BE CLEAR, A MAJORITY OF IT'S LOCATED WHERE THE EXISTING FAIRWAYS WERE.
THAT'S REALLY WHERE THE GOLF COURSE WAS SITUATED.
IT WASN'T IN SOME OF THE WOODED AREAS AND DIFFERENT THINGS AROUND SOME OF THE BUFFERING OF THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE LOCATION, IT'S ALL ENTIRELY CONTAINED WITHIN THE GOLF, WITHIN THE GOLF COURSE ITSELF.
AND IT'S PRIMARILY LOCATED WITHIN THE AREAS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY OCCUPIED BY GOLF, WHICH IS WHERE THEY REALLY MAINTAINED THE, THE LAWN AND THAT AREA THERE.
AND THEN AS FAR AS, UH, STABILIZATION, 100%, THIS SITE, UH, AS PART OF THE DEC PERMIT, UH, IS REQUIRED TO GET COVERAGE UNDER A GENERAL PERMIT.
IT NEEDS TO HAVE STORMWATER MANAGEMENT FACILITIES DURING THE CONSTRUCTION, TEMPORARY SEDIMENT BASINS, THINGS LIKE THAT TO KEEP STORMWATER ON THE PROPERTY.
IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE REMEDIATION, IT NEEDS TO BE STABILIZED.
SO EVERYTHING WOULD BE STABILIZED WITH TEMPORARY SEED MIXTURES AND GRASSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT UNTIL THEY'RE READY TO ROLL INTO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE COMMUNITY ITSELF.
SO, UM, I I THINK THAT PERHAPS, UM, YOU WANT TO KNOW WHERE EXACTLY ON THE MAP? ARE YOU ASKING WHERE EXACTLY THOSE SITES? YEAH.
PER, CAN YOU, CAN YOU BE MORE SPECIFIC? LIKE WITH THE SHOWING? I CAN'T, UH, ON THE MAP ITSELF, IT'S HARD.
THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY IS IT'S ALMOST EVERYWHERE.
KEEP IN MIND THE GOLF COURSE WAS, BUT THERE'S, THEY INDICATE THE DARKENED AREAS ARE THE ONES THAT BEING REMEDIATED.
THE ENTIRE SITE IS BEING RE REMEDIATED.
THE DARKENED AREAS ARE THE CONSERVATION AREAS.
THOSE WERE SOME AREAS THAT WERE PREVIOUSLY NOT CONTEMPLATED TO BE DISTURBED THAT ARE BEING DISTURBED NOW.
THE SITE WAS ALWAYS CONTEMPLATED.
SO PRETTY MUCH THE ENTIRE PROPERTY WILL BE REMEDIATED.
WHAT DOES THE DEC UM, HAVE PEOPLE ON SITE DURING THE WHOLE REMEDIATION, JUST TO MAKE SURE IT'S DONE CORRECTLY? DID YOU KNOW? YEAH.
THERE'S THEIR ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION THAT THERE
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THANK YOU.I THINK THIS WAS SOMEWHAT CONTEMPLATED.
SO WORKING WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT, OBVIOUSLY THERE IS A PRESENCE OUT THERE WHERE THE ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT OVERSEES EVERYTHING THE DEC DOESN'T HAVE ALL DAY LONG, BUT THEY WILL MAKE VISITS TO THE SITE PERIODICALLY TO OBSERVE THE WORK THAT'S BEING COMPLETED.
WILL THERE BE REPORTS THEN THIS ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT MAKES TO THE DEC? YES.
THAT ARE ON A REGULAR BASIS? CORRECT.
THIS IS ALL REQUIRED AS PART OF THAT, UH, DEC PROCESS.
THERE'S A REMEDIAL ELECTION WORK PLAN.
THERE'S ALL OF THIS IS PART OF THE PROCESS AND WILL BE PACKAGED UP PROVIDED TO THE DC TO OFFICIALLY CLOSE OUT, UM, THE PROGRAM.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED.
I KNOW HE ALREADY HAD HIS CHANCE TO SPEAK, BUT HE STILL HAD TIME.
I PROBABLY WOULDN'T TALK TO YOU AFTER.
YOU KNOW, WE TALKING ABOUT TIME SAW.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU'RE GONNA TALK OFFLINE THEN.
HAPPY TO, BUT THAT'S NOT IN A PUBLIC HEARING, THAT'S REALLY NOT GOOD BECAUSE THEN THERE'S NO RECORD THAT WHAT THE ANSWER WAS THAT YOU COULD RELY ON LATER ON.
DO YOU WANT HIM TO COME BACK UP THEN? AND HE HAD TIME, HE HAD PLENTY OF TIME ON HIS, HE HAD AT LEAST FOUR MINUTES.
OKAY, SO LET'S LET HAVE A TIME LEFT, RIGHT.
SO YES, SO WE CAN GIVE HIM BACK HIS, HIS TIME.
SO, UH, IN RESPONSE, STATE YOUR NAME, SIR.
OH, COULD YOU SPELL IT? OH, FOR THE SONOGRAPHY? YOU WANNA SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU? YES.
SO MY LAST ONE, I'M ALSO CONCERNED, UM, ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL CLEANUP, RIGHT? THE, THE MONITORING OF THE AIR, AIR QUALITY.
WHILE THIS IS GOING ON, UM, THERE'S A LOT OF RESIDENTS, KIDS AND EVERYTHING THAT LIVES IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO I'M CONCERNED AS WELL ABOUT THAT.
SO ARE THESE ALL YOUR QUESTIONS NOW? FOR NOW, BECAUSE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, SOMETHING, SOMETIMES YOU'LL HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS AS YOU GO ALONG, BUT UNFORTUNATELY WE ONLY HAVE FIVE MINUTE INCREMENTS.
I'LL, IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ANSWERS, I'LL FOLLOW UP IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE AT A LATER DATE, IF YOU CAN FOLLOW UP DURING PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND YOU KNOW, JUST AS A FOLLOW UP TO, YOU KNOW, YOUR QUESTION, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST THINKING BECAUSE I'M NOT THAT FAMILIAR, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE'VE DONE SOME DEC REMEDIATION AT
SO THERE'S PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEY, SOME PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET NERVOUS.
THERE COULD BE, UM, SOME OF THE CONTAMINANTS, YOU KNOW, COULD MOVE, YOU KNOW, COULD FLOW ON OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY.
WHAT COULD BE DONE TO PREVENT, TO MAKE SURE, TO REASSURE PEOPLE THAT, UH, THE CONTAMINANTS THAT ARE BEING REMOVED EXACTLY.
ARE NOT, ARE NOT IMPACTING NEGATIVELY ON NEIGHBORS ON THE COMMITTEE? ABSOLUTELY.
AND I BELIEVE THE GENTLEMAN, UM, ADDRESSED IT, THAT THEY WILL BE, UM, ERRORS TO, TO PROTECT SUCH RUNOFFS FROM HAPPENING BECAUSE AS PART OF THEIR, THEIR PLANS AND ALSO WHAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY IS, YOU KNOW, STILL CONCERNED AND THEY DON'T REALLY SAY TRUST GOVERNMENT OR ANYBODY, UM, IS THERE LIKE ANY OTHER GROUP THAT THEY COULD CALL, UH, YOU KNOW, OR REACH OUT TO AND JUST GET LIKE A, A SECOND OPINION SAYING, THIS IS REALLY SAFE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I COULD, I COULD SEE, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE A BIG STORM.
YOU'LL CALL AND WE'LL SAY EVERYTHING'S OKAY AND YOU STILL WILL BE NERVOUS.
SO I JUST, JUST TO BE REASSURED, I WANT ABSOLUTELY.
I THINK THAT THE, SINCE THERE BE AN ENVIRONMENTAL CONSULTANT MONITORING IT, THAT THAT GIVES SOME LEVEL OF, UH, YEAH, I'M JUST SOME LEVEL OF CONFIDENCE PROTECTION.
I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT IT WILL BE SAFER AFTER THE REMEDIATION THAN IT IS NOW, WHICH IS THE PURPOSE OF THE REMEDIATION.
RIGHT? CAN YOU REPEAT THAT PLEASE?
I, I TEND TO DISAGREE WITH THE, THE WAY YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THE SOIL RIGHT NOW IS NOT BEING DISTURBED.
SO THERE'S NOT MUCH OF AN ISSUE.
THIS ISSUE BECOMES WHEN THE SOILS, WHEN WHEN YOU START TO DO THE REMEDIATION AND IT'S BEEN DISTURBED, THAT'S WHEN YOU HAVE MORE OF AN ISSUE.
I, I THINK YOU'RE SAYING, AND I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, LIKE SAY WITH THE BRIGHTVIEW, WHEN THEY STARTED THE WORK, UH, THERE WAS, NOW IT'S FINE, BUT IT'S BASICALLY, NO, IT'S FINE.
BUT INITIALLY, UH, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, GOT, THE ROADS GOT DIRTY AND PEOPLE IN NEIGHBORING AREAS WERE COMPLAINING.
SO THAT'S BASICALLY YOUR CONCERN.
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OKAY, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT BEING DISTURBED.ONCE YOU DISTURB IT, THAT'S WHEN YOU CREATE AN ISSUE.
HERE WE ARE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE THAT'S EXISTING, WHICH IS UNDISTURBED.
ONCE YOU DISTURB THAT SOIL, THAT IS WHEN YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN, WHAT MAY HAPPEN, WHAT COULD HAPPEN.
WELL, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL DEFINITELY, UH, YOU KNOW, WORK ABSOLUTELY.
WITH YOU AND THE DEVELOPER AND, UM, YOU, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
WE WILL JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE SAFE.
OKAY, J JUST TO ADD A NOTE, UH, ANYTIME YOU LIVE NEAR A GOLF COURSE, THERE IS RUNOFF THAT HAPPENS CONTINUOUSLY, WHETHER THE SOIL IS DISTURBED OR NOT, AND THAT IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUE.
I'M A HYPOCHONDRIAC, SO I UNDERSTAND, UH, YOUR CONCERNS AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST REALLY WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE FEEL THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO, THAT YOUR QUALITY OF LIFE IS NOT GONNA BE DISRUPTED, YOU KNOW, NEGATIVELY BECAUSE OF THIS.
AND WE'RE DOING EVERYTHING HUMANLY POSSIBLE TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE PROTECTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I DO APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS ON SOMETHING I HADN'T THOUGHT OF.
THE NEXT SPEAKER IS JAN OR JAM KOALA.
IS IT TARA? TARA? OH, YES MA'AM.
COULD YOU SPELL THAT WHEN YOU GET INTO THE MIC, PLEASE? YES.
HI, I AM TARA, TARA AND SOUK DE S-O-O-K-D-E-O.
SO I LIVE, UM, 2 51 WORTHINGTON ROAD RIGHT BELOW THE GOLF CLUB, SO WHERE THE TENNIS COURT IS, AND THEN THE BACK, THE WHOLE BACK.
AND THE TENNIS COURT IS MY YARD, LIKE THE LITTLE WHITE ROOF OVER THERE.
SO MY CONCERN WAS, UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE LIKE LOTS OF FALLING TREES AND, UM, DEBRIS OVERGROWN FROM THE PAST SUMMER, WE GOT LOTS OF, UM, BUGS AND FLIES.
AND I WANTED TO KNOW WHEN WERE, CAN YOU PULL, GONNA CLEAN UP THE MICRO, PULL THE MICROPHONE CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH.
YEAH, I WANTED TO KNOW WHEN THEY WERE GONNA CLEAN UP AND, UM, WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO WITH THE BACK AND THE SIDES OF MY YARD, WHERE MY YARD IS, BECAUSE I'M LITERALLY LIKE MAYBE 10 FEET INTO THE PROPERTY.
SO IT'S GROWING OVER INTO YOUR YARD.
YEAH, LIKE THE VINES AND, UM, AND LIKE HOW FAST THEY WILL BE DOING IT, BECAUSE WE DID LIKE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION AND WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE WAY WE WANNA DO THE YARD.
I'M TALKING TO THE GENTLEMAN AND I GOT A LITTLE ANSWER, BUT LIKE, HOW FAST CAN IT BE DONE OR IS IT GONNA BE A 10 YEAR PROJECT, YOU KNOW? SO THAT'S WHAT I WANTED.
OBVIOUSLY THE REMEDIATION WORK NEEDS TO BE COMPLETED FIRST.
UM, THAT'S THE FIRST STEP IN THE PROCESS, UNDERSTANDING THE LOCATION.
IT'S THE BOTTOM LEFT HAND CORNER NEAR THAT CUL-DE-SAC THERE.
SHE'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO SOME SIGNIFICANT AREAS OF OPEN SPACE.
AND THEN SOMETHING AGAIN THAT WORKING WITH STAFF WAS A LANDSCAPING PLAN, WHICH INCLUDED PERIMETER BUFFERING BETWEEN THE PROPERTY LINE AND EXISTING RESIDENTIAL, UH, HOMES THAT ARE THERE.
SO THERE'S SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF LANDSCAPING THAT WOULD BE INSTALLED IN ADDITION TO WHAT'S THERE AND WHAT, WELL, I THINK WHAT SHE'S ASKING IS THE OVERGROWTH HAS INVADED HER PROPERTY.
SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO CLEAN THAT UP AS SOON AS WE CAN GET STARTED OUT THERE.
THEY COULD GO OUT, UNDERSTOOD, REMEDIATE, AND THEY'D START PULLING ALL THAT MATERIAL AWAY AS WELL.
AND YOU HAVE MY EMAIL, RIGHT? SO THIS WAY IF THERE'S A CONCERN, YOU COULD CALL ME AND I'LL FOLLOW UP.
NEXT SPEAKER, FORMER GREENBERG TOWN CLERK JUDITH VILLE.
ALL THIS IS AN AMAZING SPACE FOR A NEW COMMUNITY.
AND, UM, WHEN I WAS AN ELECTED AN AN ELECTED OFFICIAL HERE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, I WAS A STRONG ADVOCATE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UH, MY QUESTION IS, UH, WILL THERE BE A 10 TO 15%, UM, UH, UH, SET ASIDE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THIS NEW COMMUNITY? AND IF NOT, WHY NOT? UM, THIS COMMUNITY WILL HAVE ACCESS TO THREE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS, GREENBURG CENTRAL SEVEN, UM, SOLOMON, SHECTER, MARIA, REGINA, AND, UM, SO EL AND ELMSFORD.
SO, UM, JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE, YOU'RE REALLY, UM, IN BUILDING A COMMUNITY THAT TOUCHES ON
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AND INCLUDES A DIVERSITY OF CULTURES AS WELL AS DIVO DIVERSITY OF, OF ECONOMIC LEVELS, UM, IN EACH OF THOSE DIFFERENT SCHOOL DISTRICTS.AND THEREFORE, JUST WONDERING, IS THERE A 10 TO 15%, UM, AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, ASSIGNMENT IN THIS NEW COMMUNITY? THANK YOU.
IF NOT, WHY NOT? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS AFTER, UM, KEEP THE THEME OVER HERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN HAS BEEN A LEADER IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I WILL SAY, UM, THAT THAT HAS BEEN, UM, SPECIFIC TO THE MULTIFAMILY ZONING DISTRICTS.
UM, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A GAP IN THE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICTS THAT NEEDS TO BE RECTIFIED.
UM, THE LOCAL LAW IS DRAFTED AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO PRODUCING THAT FOR THE TOWN BOARD.
SO, UH, DEVELOPMENTS IN THE FUTURE, UM, THAT SAME COMMENT AND QUESTION WON'T BE ASKED THERE.
WE, WE ARE BRINGING A 10% SET ASIDE TO THE TABLE FOR THE TOWN BOARDS CONSIDERATION.
AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE ISSUES IS ONCE AN APPLICANT COMES IN WITH AN APPLICATION, UH, THEN IT'S SORT OF GRANDFATHERED.
SO, UM, WHEN THEY CAME IN, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE LAW, SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO, UM, UH, APPLY IT TO, TO THEM BECAUSE THEIR APPLICATION WAS ALREADY SUBMITTED.
I'M SORRY, THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKER SPEAKERS.
JUST WANNA MAKE SURE NO ONE'S ON ZOOM.
IS ANYONE ON ZOOM THAT INTENDED TO SPEAK HERE? IF ANYONE'S ON ZOOM WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? IF YOU COULD RAISE YOUR HAND ELECTRONICALLY, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
OKAY, THEN I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE CLOSE THE HEARING AND LEAVE THE RECORD OPEN FOR SEVEN DAYS.
[ To consider Town Board use of limited immunity in connection with the installation of lights at West Rumbrook Park located at 2305 Saw Mill River Road,(P.O. Elmsford NY) [TB 25-11]]
OH, TO CONSIDER TOWN BOARD, UH, USE OF LIMITED IMMUNITY IN CONNECTION WITH INSTALLATION OF LIGHTS AT WEST BROOK PARK, LOCATED AT 2 3 0 5.SO MILL RIVER ROAD, I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND.
FINER MEMBERS, TOWN COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD.
GARY TUQUE, COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
THE TOWN OF GREENBURG HAS CONSISTENTLY INVESTED IN ITS PARK SYSTEM THROUGH SUPPORT FROM THE TOWN BOARD, THE PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD, PARKS AND RECREATION, AND OTHER TOWN STAFF, ITS RESIDENTS, AND THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS WITH NON-GOVERNMENTAL GROUPS AND NONPROFITS.
THE PUBLIC HEARING TONIGHT FOCUSES ON A CONTINUATION OF TOWN INVESTMENT INTO ITS PARK SYSTEM AT WEST RUM BROOK PARK OFF OF SAWMILL RIVER ROAD.
BALLFIELD SPACE IS UNFORTUNATELY LIMITED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN, COUNTY, AND REGION.
THE FIELD SPACE THAT WE DO HAVE HERE IN THE TOWN PROVIDES A MUCH NEEDED RESOURCE FOR CHILDREN AND THEIR FAMILIES.
THE ELMSFORD LITTLE LEAGUE IS A TREMENDOUS ORGANIZATION FOR TOWN RESIDENTS AND BOTH THE TOWN PARK AT WESTBROOK PARK.
AND THE LITTLE LEAGUE WILL BENEFIT TREMENDOUSLY FROM THE ADDITION OF LIGHTING TO EXTEND PLAY INTO REASONABLE EVENING HOURS OUTSIDE OF THE WINTER MONTHS.
DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN IS AN AERIAL PHOTO OF WEST BROOK PARK.
A SERIES OF LIGHTS ARE PLANNED TO BE USED TO ILLUMINATE THE WEST, ILLUMINATE THE WESTERNMOST BALL FIELD KNOWN AS POLI FIELD, AS WELL AS LIGHT FOR THE ADJACENT PITCHING CAGES.
AND THAT FIELD IS TO THE LEFT ON THE SCREEN.
THESE LIGHTS ARE PROPOSED TO RANGE IN SIZE FROM 16 FEET TO 70 FEET, AND ARE THE MINIMUM IDENTIFIED HEIGHTS NEEDED TO ALLOW FOR SAFE NIGHTTIME PLAY AND USE OF THE PARK.
THE ORIENTATION AND FUNCTION OF THE LIGHTS ARE DESIGNED TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE PARK AND BALL FIELD LIMITS, AND NOT DETRACT FROM THE QUALITY OF NEARBY RESIDENTIAL USES FOR MUNICIPAL PROJECTS.
LOCAL GOVERNMENTS HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT PROJECTS ON GOVERNMENT OWNED LANDS, FOCUSING ON THE IMPACTS OF ITS PROPOSALS AND BEING CLEAR ABOUT ALTERNATIVE ANALYSIS, AS WELL AS PROVIDING A MECHANISM FOR PUBLIC INPUT.
AND THAT'S THE INTENT OF THE MEETING TONIGHT.
IT'S VERY POSITIVE THAT THERE REMAINS SUCH DEMAND FOR ATHLETICS, SUCH AS LITTLE LEAGUE BASEBALL.
AN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS LIGHTING PROJECT THAT MEETS THE GOAL OF ADDING ADDITIONAL PLAYING TIME WOULD BE TO CONSTRUCT A NON LIGHTED FIELD AT AN ALTERNATE LOCATION.
BUT HOWEVER, DUE TO THE COST AND LIMITED OPTIONS IN THAT REGARD, SUCH AN ALTERNATIVE IS NOT DEEMED PRACTICAL.
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SORRY FOR THAT.FROM A PROCEDURAL AND LAND USE PERSPECTIVE, WEST BROOK PARK IS LOCATED WITHIN THE ONE FAMILY RESIDENCE DISTRICT, AND THIS IS THE CASE FOR ALL TOWN PARKS.
THESE DISTRICTS DO NOT CONTAIN RELEVANT LAW AND BULK STANDARDS FOR PARKS OR MUNICIPAL USES, PARTICULARLY WITH RESPECT TO LIGHTING HEIGHT, WHICH PERMITS NO MORE THAN 14 FEET.
ACCORDINGLY, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FOLLOWING A PUBLIC HEARING AND COMPLETION OF THE NEW YORK STATE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS ARE AUTHORIZED TO APPROVE PROJECTS SUCH AS THIS BY TOWN BOARD RESOLUTION, WHICH WILL BE FOLLOWED BY COMPLETING THE ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL PROCESS.
AND TONIGHT WE'RE JOINED BY THE LIGHTING DESIGNER, MR. MIKE MORRE OF MUSCO LIGHTING.
HE'S PRESENT AND CAN ATTEST TO THE SUCCESS OF THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS, UH, IN TERMS OF AVOIDING GLARE AND NEGATIVE IMPACTS TO ADJOINING USES, AS WELL AS CONFIRM THE RATIONALE FOR THE HEIGHTS THAT ARE SELECTED.
UH, SO TERENCE, IF, UH, MIKE'S ON IF YOU COULD PLEASE PROMOTE HIM AND, UH, YEAH, I BELIEVE, UH, I, UH, HAVE BEEN PROMOTED.
IF YOU, UH, IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, YES.
UH, SO IF YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE, UH, RATIONALE FOR THE HEIGHT AND THE SUCCESS OF THESE TYPES OF PROJECTS, UM, IN SIMILAR, UH, PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL USES, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, UH, AS YOU SAID, I'M, I'M MIKE MORTIS, I'M YOUR LOCAL, UH, MUSCO LIGHTING REPRESENTATIVE.
UH, JUST WANNA QUICKLY SAY, I'M HAPPY THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND I LOOK FORWARD TO, YOU KNOW, FUTURE PROJECTS WITH THE TOWN, UM, TO, TO SPEAK ON, UH, PROXIMITY OF THE LIGHTS TO NEIGHBORING HOUSES.
MUSCO HAS DONE HUNDREDS, IF NOT THOUSANDS, UH, OF PROJECTS DEFINITELY AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND, UH, MOST DEFINITELY IN THE NEW YORK CITY METROPOLITAN AREA, UH, NORTHERN NEW JERSEY, CONNECTICUT, UH, WHERE LIGHTS OF HEIGHTS OF SIMILAR VALUES, 70, 80 FEET ARE WITHIN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO HOUSES.
UM, WE REQUIRE THOSE POLE HEIGHTS IN ORDER TO KEEP THE LIGHTS OFF OF THE HOUSES.
UM, THE, THE LOWER AND POLE HEIGHT THAT WE GO, THE FARTHER WE NEED TO PUSH THE LIGHT OUT, INCREASING SPILLING GLARE.
SO THE TALLER THAT THAT WE HAVE THE POLES, THE MORE WE CAN CONTROL THE LIGHT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, TO ADD TO THAT, MUSCOW, UH, HAS FULL CUTOFF VISORS ON OUR FIXTURES THAT ASSURE THAT WE HAVE, UH, ALONG WITH THE, THE PROPER AIMING ANGLES AND POLE HEIGHTS, THAT WE HAVE NO SPILL OR GLARE, UM, IN ORDER TO BE FRIENDLY NEIGHBORS.
SO, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS BE AN ISSUE, YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORS, UH, IF THERE ARE ANY ISSUES, GOD FORBID, UM, BACKED BY OUR WARRANTY, WE WILL HAVE MUSCO TECHNICIANS COME OUT AND ADJUST ANY FIXTURES.
IF THERE THERE WERE A, YOU KNOW, PESKY FIXTURE OR TWO, UM, I'M WILLING TO BET THAT THERE IS NOT, BUT IF THERE IS, WE WILL FIX IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY THE GOAL IS TO BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, UH, TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, AND WE PLAN ON DOING JUST THAT.
AND IF IT'S NOT, THEN WE WILL FIX IT.
WELL, THE ISSUE, LIKE YOU SAID, IS THE PROJECT COMPLETED, BUT IT WAS COMPLETED WITHOUT PERMITS.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE HAVING THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS BECAUSE IN ORDER FOR YOU TO MOVE FORWARD, UH, YOU EITHER HAVE TO GET PERMITS AND GO TO THE ZONING BOARD, OR WE WOULD APPLY, UM, UH, OUR, OUR, UH, IMMUNITY STANDARD TO SAY THAT, UH, YOU WOULD BE, OR THE PROPERTY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM HAVING TO GO TO THE ZONING BOARD.
UH, I DID, I WAS STOPPED IN A SUPERMARKET AND SOMEBODY WHO LIVES ON SOUTH STONE, AND THAT PERSON WAS TELLING ME ABOUT HOW, HOW THE, UH, THE LIGHTS WERE VERY VISIBLE FROM SOUTH STONE.
DO YOU HAVE THE, UM, RESTRICTORS OR WHATEVER YOU'RE CALLING THEM, THE, UH, TO PREVENT THE SPRAY RIGHT NOW? OR ARE THEY GOING TO BE INSTALLED AT SOME OTHER POINT? THEY, THEY'RE CURRENTLY INSTALLED.
THE, THE FULL CUTOFF VISORS ARE CURRENTLY INSTALLED.
UM, SO LIKE I SAID, IF THERE, IF THERE WAS ANY, UH, ANYONE ON THAT STREET EXPERIENCING ANY SPILL OR GLARE FROM THE FIXTURES, THEN WE WOULD ADJUST 'EM.
BUT AS OF NOW, THEY ARE FULLY INSTALLED WITH OUR FULL CUTOFF PFIZERS THAT SHOULD AT LEAST ENSURE THAT THERE IS NO, UM, EXPERIENCED SPILL OR GLARE FROM THE FIXTURES.
I, I THINK IT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE FOR US TO PUT A CONDITION THAT IF THERE'S ANY IN INCIDENTS LIKE, UH, WAS EXPLAINED TO ME, I DIDN'T SEE IT MYSELF, I, I'M NOT LIVING ON SOUTH STONE.
UH, BUT THAT BE CORRECTED, YOU KNOW, WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME THEREAFTER ALSO.
UH, WE HAVE THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR ON, I THINK WE SHOULD PROMOTE HER.
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE.WOULD YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE? SURE.
I'M THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR FOR THE TIM.
UH, SO WHERE ARE WE WITH GETTING THE, UM, ENGINEERING REPORTS THAT THE, UH, LIGHTS WERE INSTALLED PROPERLY, THEY'RE NOT GONNA FALL DOWN OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? SURE.
SO, UM, THE COMMISSIONER, UH, JOE LUCCHESE HAS ENGAGED THE CERTAIN SERVICES OF A PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER TO PROVIDE CERTIFICATION FOR THE FOOTINGS OF THE POLES.
JOE LUCCHESE RETAIN THEM? YES.
THROUGH, UH, THE RECREATION DEPARTMENT.
AND WHEN DO WE, WHEN DO WE EXPECT TO HAVE SUCH A CER CERTIFICATION? THE ENGINEER HAS BEEN IN CONTACT WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANYTHING YET.
THEY WERE JUST RECENTLY RETAINED.
UM, THEY SHOULD BE GOING OUT TO DO A SITE INSPECTION AND THEN, UM, PROBABLY WILL HAVE TO DO TEST FORMS TO REVEAL THE FOOTINGS SO THEY CAN CERTIFY THEM.
SO I BELIEVE WE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE RESULTS OF THAT REPORT BEING FAVORABLE, AT LEAST BEFORE I COULD SUPPORT THEM STAYING UP, BECAUSE THOSE POLLS ARE VERY CLOSE TO THE HOUSES AND WE WOULDN'T WANT THEM TO COME DOWN ON THE HOUSES.
UM, IS THERE ANY PRECEDENT FOR THAT HAPPENING FOR THE COMPANY? NO, IN GENERAL, SORRY, WAIT, YOU, WAIT ONE SECOND.
IS THERE ANY PRECEDENT FOR THAT HAPPENING? PRECEDENT? YEAH.
SORRY, WHAT DO YOU MEAN PRECEDENT FOR, FOR LIFE FALLING DOWN
I MEAN, IS THIS A, AN ACT SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY ARE, ARE CONCERNED ABOUT? WELL, YES.
THAT THEY WERE PUT UP WITHOUT ANY INSPECTORS LOOKING AT THE FOOTINGS, SEE, TO SEE HOW DEEP THEY WERE GOING.
WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE POURED CORRECTLY, WHETHER OR NOT THEY WERE POUR IN THE RAIN AND THEY'RE WEAKENED FROM THEIR ORIGINAL CONCRETE STRENGTH.
SO THE, JUST TO CLARIFY, THESE, THESE ARE VERY DEEP, UM, FOOTINGS FOR POLES.
UM, THEY'RE ABOUT 30 FEET DEEP.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO ENSURE, AND THE ENGINEER WILL PROVIDE US WITH THE CERTIFICATION THAT THE CAGES FOR THE FLIPPINGS WERE INSTALLED CORRECTLY AND ARE PRESENT.
I, I HAVE, AND ALSO THE, SO THE SOIL WOULD MATTER TOO IF IT'S FLOODING.
I HAD A QUESTION BECAUSE WE ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
CAN WE, CAN WE, CAN WE JUST LET, IF YOU HAVE THE SOIL THAT IS, IS SOAKED, UM, THAT COULD BE A FACTOR AS WELL.
BUT WE'RE BASICALLY HYPOTHESIZING HERE AND IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE CAN GET THE ENGINEERING REPORT, UH, THAT'LL SHOW THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE SAVED.
AND IF, IF THE SOIL GETS SOAKED TO WHAT DEPTH SINCE THE FOOTINGS ARE 30 FEET, FEET DEEP, AS LONG AS THERE'S ENOUGH DRY SOIL TO SUSTAIN.
THE QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS ABOUT TWO YEARS AGO, AND I KNOW THAT MEMBERS OF THE LITTLE LEAGUE IN ELMSFORD, UM, REACHED OUT TO EVERYBODY ON BABBITT COURT.
AND, UH, THERE WAS THE, THE COMMUNITY, THE NEIGHBORS WERE, WERE SUPPORTIVE.
UM, AND THE TOWN STAFF HAD TWO YEAR, LIKE OVER A YEAR, UM, TO SAY THERE SHOULD BE A PERMANENT NO, I, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN, UM, WE'RE BEING TOLD AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION TOOK PLACE THAT, UH, THEY NEEDED A PERMIT WHEN, UM, WHEN THEY, WE COULD HAVE AVOIDED A LOT OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE, ANY, ANY CONTROVERSY IF WE WERE TOLD THIS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, WHY DID, WHY DID WE HAVE TO WAIT TO, UH, UNTIL, UNTIL AFTER THE CONSTRUCTION AND AFTER WE SPENT HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON, YOU KNOW, ON, ON THIS, UM, TO SAY, OH, BY THE WAY, UH, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO TAKE IT DOWN.
IT SOUNDS LIKE A TREMENDOUS WASTE OF, UM, OF, YOU KNOW, OF MONEY.
AND WE COULD HAVE RESOLVED ALL OF THIS A YEAR AGO.
AND, YOU KNOW, I I PERSONALLY BELIEVE THAT, UH, THE LITTLE LEAGUE WILL BENEFIT TREMENDOUSLY FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THIS, UM, THERE'S 700 MEMBERS OF THE LITTLE LEAGUE.
WE'VE ALREADY, UH, THEY WERE UNABLE, UNABLE TO, UM, ENJOY THE GAMES, THE LIGHTS, UH, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR, UH, BECAUSE THE LIGHTS WERE, YOU KNOW, INSTALLED AND THEY WANTED TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST TEST IT OUT.
SO I, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS COULD BE IN JEOPARDY.
WELL, WE ALL BELIEVE THAT THE LITTLE LEAGUE DESERVES THE LIGHTING.
WHY WEREN'T WE TOLD THAT? I UNDERSTAND THAT THEY NEEDED A PERMIT.
WELL, YOU'VE BEEN THE SUPERVISOR FOR 32 YEARS.
PEOPLE CAN'T PUT A DOWN A PIECE OF FLAGSTONE IN THEIR BACKYARD WITHOUT
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GETTING A PERMIT FOR A CONTRACTOR TO NOT KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO GET A PERMIT TO INSTALL THESE STRUCTURES, INCLUDING ELECTRICAL.UM, THAT'S THE QUESTION TO BE ASKED.
IF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT KNEW THAT THE WORK WAS BEING DONE, EVERYBODY KNEW ABOUT THIS BECAUSE THIS WAS AT A PUBLIC MEETING, WHY DIDN'T SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SAY, DO YOU KNOW WHAT, YOU NEED A PERMIT? BECAUSE, UH, THE EVERYBODY WAS WORK.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM THE LITTLE LEAGUE HERE, YOU KNOW, EVERY, IT WAS SO PUBLIC, EVERYBODY WAS SUPPORTIVE OF IT.
AND IF SOMEBODY WOULD'VE SAID FROM THE TOWN STAFF, OH, YOU NEED A PERMIT, THEY WOULD'VE GOTTEN A PERMIT.
BUT I THINK, PAUL, YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT THAT IN EVERY SITUATION YOU HAVE TO GET A PERMIT.
PROCESS ANY TIME YOU DO CONSTRUCTION.
BUT THIS LITTLE, NO, THEY SHOULD HAVE TOLD US BEFORE.
WHO SHOULD TELL YOU? THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT THAT AN ELECTRICAL, ELECTRICAL CONTRACTOR HAS TO GET A PERMIT? THEY KNOW THEY HAVE TO GET A PERMIT.
THERE'S NOTHING THAT THEY CAN DO IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AND PROBABLY OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, THEY COULD STOPPED IF THEY'RE LICENSED ELECTRICIANS AND LICENSED PERMIT.
AS SOON AS CONTRACTOR, AS APPLICATION COMES SOON INTO THE BUILDING, BUILDING DEPARTMENT PERMIT, THEY REVIEW IT AND THEY WILL TELL THEM WHAT PERMITS TO GET.
BUT I'VE BEEN, FIRST OF ALL, I'VE BEEN TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, I'VE BEEN TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT NUMEROUS TIMES.
I SAID, WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE LIGHTS? WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE LIGHTS? WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE LIGHTS? THIS WAS NOT A SECRET.
EVERYBODY IN THE TOWN STAFF KNEW THAT THIS WAS GOING UP AND THEY KNEW, UH, THEY WERE MONITORING, UH, THE INSTALLATION OF THE LIGHTS BECAUSE I BASICALLY WAS UP THERE SPEAKING TO PEOPLE ON TOWN, STAFF DAILY FOR, FOR MONTHS.
BUT I THINK WE'RE TALKING PAST EACH OTHER.
WHY DID YOU TELL THEM THEY NEEDED PERMITS? WELL, YOU KNOW, I'M, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DID NOT KNOW THAT THEY WERE, UP UNTIL THEY WERE UP, THEY KNEW THAT IT WASN'T BECAUSE THE BUILDING, THE THE BUILDING INSPECTOR IS A DEPUTY, UH, COMMISSIONER OF PUBLIC WORKS.
SO, YOU KNOW, I I WAS, I'VE BEEN TO THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 30 TIMES IN THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS, YOU KNOW, WHILE THE CONSTRUCTION HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, JOHN MALONE, UH, WHO'S, UM, UM, ON THE PARKS BOARD, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE BEEN CONSTANTLY SAYING, WHAT'S HAPPENING? WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH THE LIGHTS? WHEN IS IT GONNA BE, SO HOW DID THIS PROCESS DIFFER FROM OUR OTHER PROCESSES? WHAT, WHAT FELL THROUGH THE CRACKS HERE? A CONTRACTOR DID WORK WITHOUT PERMITS.
WELL, HE, SOMEBODY FROM BUILDING NOBODY AWARE PARTNERSHIP TOLD THEM, I DON'T THINK ANYONE TOLD STEINMAN.
AND THE PEOPLE AT ELMWOOD, BY THE WAY, YOU NEED PERMITS.
THEY, THEY KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS.
THIS IS NOT A PRIVATE PROJECT.
SO THE THING IS, SO I CAN, CAN UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY, IF, IF WE'RE DOING SOMETHING, IF, IF THERE WAS NO PERMIT, SOMEBODY SHOULD HAVE SAID IT BEFORE THE FACT.
BUT IF THEY DO KNOW, OR WHEN THEY FOUND OUT, IF THEY DID NOT KNOW THEY WERE BEING UNTIL AFTER THE LIGHTS WERE INSTALLED, IT'S RIDICULOUS.
THIS IS NOT A COMMENTARY ABOUT THE ELMSFORD LITTLE LEAGUE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT THE ONES THAT FILE FOR A PERMIT.
WHEN A CONTRACTOR IS DOING WORK IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, THEY NEED TO GO TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND FILE FOR PERMITS THAT KICKS IN THE INSPECTION PROCESS.
BUILDING INSPECTORS ARE NOT IN THE BUSINESS OF GOING OUT AND SAYING TO EACH PERSON, IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS, YOU NEED A PERMIT.
IT'S LIKE, I CAN'T GO AND I JUST BUILD A HOUSE ON MY PROPERTY AND THEN LATER SAY THE BILLING DEPARTMENT DIDN'T COME OVER AND SAY TO ME, I NEED A PERMIT.
OKAY, MAYBE OUR PLANNING COMMISSIONER CAN SHED A LITTLE LIGHT ON, ON THIS
SO I'M THE PLANNING AND ZONING GUY,
I THINK A LOT OF MUNICIPALITIES DON'T SEND PROJECTS LIKE THIS TO A ZONING BOARD.
I THINK THEY DO NOTHING EXCEPT GET THE ADMINISTRATIVE PERMITS, WHICH ARE BUILDING PERMITS OR WHATEVER MM-HMM
I WANNA SEE US DO THE PROPER PROTOCOL.
THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS ULTIMATELY.
AND THIS IS ALSO FAST TRACKING IT NOW IT'S FAST TRACKING.
FAST TRACKING IT SO THAT THEY CAN HAVE THEIR, THEIR LIGHTS FOR THE SPRING.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO THE ZONING BOARD, WHICH COULD BE A CONSIDERABLE DELAY AND EXPENSE.
UH, SO THIS IS ACTUALLY MOVING IT FORWARD.
I WASN'T GOING TO RAISE THE WHOLE ISSUE, BUT PAUL RAISED IT, UH, AS TO HOW DID THEY GO UP, UH, AND BE FINISHED.
AND NOW WE'RE HERE HAVING TO GIVE GOVERNMENTAL IMMUNITY AS OPPOSED TO THEM JUST GETTING THE PERMITS.
AND WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD TO DO THIS.
SO HERE'S MY RECOMMENDATION BASED ON THAT AND WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, FIRST OFF, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE PUBLIC HEARING, WANNA HEAR IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS ABOUT THE ACTUAL LIGHTS.
AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT FROM STONE STREET OR WHATEVER VANTAGE POINT THAT IS, THAT WHEN THEY'RE TURN TURNED ON, THERE'S NOT AN ISSUE.
MY RECOMMENDATION IS THIS, IF THE BOARD, UM, WANTS TO ADJOURN THE PUBLIC HEARING TO ALLOW
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FOR THE STRUCTURAL, UH, UH, TO BE LOOKED AT BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, UNDERSTANDABLE, WE CAN ADJOURN, UM, GET THAT STRUCTURAL REVIEW DONE SO THAT YOU KNOW THAT YES, THIS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ADEQUATELY, YOU KNOW, DESIGNED AND, AND, AND BUILT STRUCTURE.AND WE CAN COME BACK AND, AND REVISIT CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING IF THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE INCLINED TO DO, AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE FINAL, YOU KNOW, I'LL WRITE UP THE SEEKER FINDINGS AND, UM, AND THAT REALLY WILL WILL BE IT.
AND THEN THERE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO PULL THE BUILDING PERMIT CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION AND BE DONE.
CONTRARY TO WHAT PEOPLE MIGHT THINK, THE BOARD IS ALL UNANIMOUS IN WANTING TO HAVE THE LIGHTS BECAUSE THE LOCAL NEIGHBORHOODS UNANIMOUSLY CAME BEFORE US.
YOU COULD SHAKE YOUR HEAD NOW, BUT WENT BACK, BACK WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING THIS, THEY WENT AROUND AND THEY GOT SIGNATURES FROM EVERYBODY THAT WAS SURROUNDING US.
WE'RE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR CHANCE TO SPEAK TO IN PUBLIC.
WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OBJECT THERE.
BUT I DO THINK WE SHOULD HEAR FROM EVERYONE ELSE THAT THAT IS WHY WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT IS BECAUSE THE LITTLE ELMS WITH LITTLE LEAGUE WENT AROUND AND GOT SIGNATURES.
WE, WELL, THERE WERE ALL THE ADDRESSES THAT WERE ON THE PIECE OF PAPER AND THAT CONVINCED US IF THE NEIGHBORS ARE OKAY WITH IT, HOW COULD WE NOT? OUR MAIN CONCERN WAS THEN, UM, THE LIGHTS, UH, SPILLAGE AND HOPEFULLY THAT'LL GET ADDRESSED, BUT NOW THE POLES ARE UP.
UH, WE HAD SOME CONCERNS BECAUSE THEY WERE GONNA BE USED EVEN BEFORE THERE WAS GOVERNMENTAL IMMUNITY.
AND THAT WAS NOT BE POTENTIALLY UN THERE SAFE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE PERMITS AND THERE WERE NO INSPECTIONS.
SO WE HAD TO WAIT FOR INSPECTIONS.
AND, AND SO NOW WHAT WE'RE WAITING FOR IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INSTALLED, THEY'RE INSTALLED SAFE, AND THAT WHEN THE CHILDREN ARE, UH, PLAYING CHILDREN AND OLDER, OLDER CHILDREN, TEENAGERS ARE ON THE FIELD, UH, THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE POLLS.
AND, AND, AND THAT CLARIFICATION SHOULD BE EMPHASIZED THAT WE ARE MAKING THE GOVERNMENTAL IMMUNITY, QUOTE UNQUOTE, DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE ARE NOT MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS ABSOLUTELY SAFE AND OBVIOUSLY OF ENGINEERS.
AND WE'RE LOOKING VERY CLOSELY AT THIS BEFORE, BEFORE, UM, GIVING APPROVAL.
AND THAT'S WHY THOSE LIGHTS AREN'T TURNED ON AND HAVEN'T BEEN TURNED ON EXCEPT FOR TESTING.
IT WOULD'VE BEEN A MISTAKE TO HAVE DONE THAT SOONER WITHOUT HAVING GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS.
SO I THINK THERE ARE OTHER SNEAKERS IF I'M NOT SPEAKING.
UM, MR. BLAND IS YOUR ISSUE REGARDING THIS SUBJECT DURING THE HEARING.
EV TI UM, IS THIS IS YOUR ISSUE ABOUT THIS.
I JUST, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T WANT TO GLOSS OVER YOU.
JOHN MALONE ALSO, BUT AFTER THE PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE ARE HERE, COPY THAT.
UM, UH, BEGIN WITH TRANSCRIPTION.
WHO TEXTED YOU? I DON'T KNOW, IT'S JUST, UH, THEY JUST SAID, PLEASE LET ME TALK.
I LIVE AT SPRINGBROOK PARKWAY DRIVE AND I CAN ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS BEFORE I START.
COULD YOU PULL THE MIC DOWN, PLEASE? YES.
UM, NUMBER ONE, SPRINGBROOK PARKWAY DRIVE WAS NOT, UM, LITTLE LEAGUE DID NOT COME AND ASK US ABOUT THE LIGHTS.
WE ONLY HEARD FROM IT WHEN WE GOT THIS MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT MAILED TO US ABOUT A WEEK AGO.
NUMBER TWO, THIS, UH, BASEBALL FIELD DOES FLOOD UNBELIEVABLY SO MUCH THAT BABA COURT, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
AND THE BASEBALL FIELD NEEDS ROWBOATS TO GET THE PEOPLE OUT.
AND NUMBER THREE, SOUTH STONE COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM ONE QUARTER TO ONE HALF MILE AWAY FROM THE BASEBALL FIELD.
SO YOU CAN SEE ABOUT THE LIGHTS.
SO I'LL START MY LITTLE SPEECH HERE.
HI, I'M MARIA PECORA, A RESIDENT OF UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG LIVE, LIVING NEAR THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD, WEST RUMBA PARK, AND THE TEAMSTERS UNION BUILDING.
FOR 65 YEARS, I HAVE WITNESSED THIS LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD CHANGED FROM BARELY HAVING GRASS WHEN MY BROTHERS PLAYED IN THE MID 1960S TO NOW WITH THE REQUEST TO THE TOWN BOARD FOR A PROPOSED STADIUM LIKE FIELD WITH MULTIPLE 16, 25, 60, AND 70 FEET POLES MOUNTED WITH 20 LED LIGHTS TO ILLUMINATE THE FIELD AND BULLPEN CAGE
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TOWN ORDINANCE CODE SECTION 2 85 DASH 36 K ONLY PERMITS 14 FOOT POLES.THIS QUALITY, UH, OF LIGHTING IS SIMILAR TO BEING IN A SPORTS STADIUM OR INTERCEDED PARKING LOT WITH HIGH CRIME RATES PERMITTING A VARIANCE FOR THESE EXTREMELY TALL EXTERIOR POLES AND 20 LIGHTS WOULD ENABLE THE LEAGUE TO HAVE EVENING GAMES, NOT ONLY DURING THEIR CURRENT SCHEDULE, MID-APRIL TO LATE OCTOBER, BUT EXTEND THEIR SEASON EARLIER IN THE SPRING AND LATER IN THE FALL.
NOTE, DURING THIS TIME, BARELY ANY LEAVES ARE ON THE TREES.
SO FULL ILLUMINATION FROM THESE HIGH INTENSITY LED LIGHTS PENETRATE INTO THE ADJOINING HOUSES.
IN ADDITION, EVEN IF THE EVENING GAMES AND AT 9:00 PM THE FIELD WILL STILL BE ILLUMINATED FOR AT LEAST AN HOUR AFTERWARDS FOR THE COACHES TO GATHER THE EQUIPMENT SNAP BAR TO CLOSE, AND PARENTS AND PLAYERS WALK TO THEIR CARS.
A FEW YEARS AGO, THEY INSTALLED A SOUND SYSTEM SO LOUD I CAN HEAR FROM MY BACKYARD, WHO THE PLAYER IS AT BAT, THE PLAY BY PLAY THE SEVENTH EVENING STRETCH SONGS, NEW YORK, NEW YORK, AND TAKE ME OUT TO THE BALL GAME BEFORE THE GAME.
IT IS TESTING, TESTING FROM THE GAME ANNOUNCER FOR AT LEAST FIVE MINUTES.
MANY TIMES PARENTS TAILGATE BEFORE THE GAME WITH MUSIC BLASTING FROM THEIR CARS.
WHEN WILL THE HOMEOWNERS IN THIS AREA BE ABLE TO ENJOY THEIR BACKYARD AND HAVE SOME PEACE AND QUIET? I DO NOT FEEL THE LITTLE LEAGUE PARENTS COACHES, GREENBURG PARKS AND RECREATION MANAGEMENT HAVE CONSIDERED WHAT THESE EXTREMELY TALL LIGHT POLES AND INTRODUCTION OF NIGHT GAMES WILL AFFECT THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR RESIDENTS NEARING LIVING NEAR THE WEST BROOK PARK FIELD.
I ASK ALL OF YOU, AND ESPECIALLY THE TOWN BOARD, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THESE LIGHTS IN YOUR BACKYARD FROM EARLY SPRING TO LATE FALL ON WEEKDAYS AND EVERY WEEKEND TO HAVE YOUR BACKARD BACKYARD LIT LIKE YANKEE STADIUM, THE NEED TO CLOSE YOUR WINDOWS, SHADES, AND CURTAINS TO STOP THE PENETRATING LIGHT IN YOUR WINDOWS AND NOT BEING ABLE TO ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL SPRING, SUMMER, AND FALL WEATHER ON YOUR DECK OR BACKYARD.
I REQUEST THE TOWN BOARD TO AGREE WITH THE GREENBERG BUILDING EXPECTOR FRANK MORDO, AND DENY THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING AT THE ELMSFORD LITTER LEAGUE, WEST RUMBLE PARK FOR NOT COMPLYING WITH THE TOWN ORDINANCE SECTION 2 85 DASH 36, AND TO PERMANENTLY REMOVE THE NEW EXTERIOR LIGHTS AND VERY TALL POLES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN INSTALLED IN THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD.
THIS BASEBALL FIELD WAS NEVER DESIGNED TO BE USED.
12 TO 15 HOURS A DAY, EVERY DAY FOR EIGHT MONTHS OF THE YEAR.
REMEMBER, YOUR MOM USED TO SAY, KIDS BE HOME WHEN THE STREET LIGHTS COME ON.
I WONDER, IS THIS THE FIELD BEING SET UP FOR A POTENTIAL ADULT FOOTBALL LEAGUE? A EXCUSE ME, SOFTBALL LEAGUE.
I ALSO HAVE LATER ON IF I HAVE TO, I, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING THE SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM THAT WAS FILLED OUT BECAUSE I FEEL THERE'S SOME ERRORS HERE.
QUESTION ONE SHOULD BE YES, NOT NO, BECAUSE THE PROPOSED ACTION DOES NOT ONLY INVOLVE THE LEGISLATION ADOPTION OF THE PLAN.
YOU COULD SUBMIT THAT TO THE RECORD AND WE COULD INCLUDE THIS TIME.
OKAY, BECAUSE I WANT IT ALL ON THE RECORD.
'CAUSE UM, I DON'T THINK THIS IS RIGHT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
WELL, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA CLOSE IT TONIGHT ANYWAY, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GET THE STRUCTURAL ANALYSIS.
YEAH, BUT I, I THINK THERE'S GENERAL COMMENT HERE THAT WON'T BE PART OF THE TRANSCRIPT.
SO IF YOU SUBMIT THAT, WE CAN MAKE THAT PART OF IT AND ALSO INCLUDE IT NEXT TIME AS WELL.
WOULD THE, UH, THE LIGHTING EXPERT, UM, COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, POTENTIAL SPILLAGE, UM, ACROSS THE STREET FROM NINE A? IS HE STILL ON? YEAH.
I'M NOT EXACTLY SURE WHAT YOUR EXPERIENCE IS REGARDING SPORTS LIGHTING.
UM, I, I VERY MUCH ASSURE YOU, UM, I, I KNOW YOU SAID YOU LIVED ON, UM, THE, THE, THE STREET THAT IS, UH, UH, ACROSS, UH, AND OVER, OVER FROM THE PARK.
UM, I ASSURE YOU, YOU MIGHT, UH, IF YOU WERE STANDING WITH VISIBILITY TO THE PARK, YOU MIGHT SEE THAT THE LIGHTS ARE ON IN TERMS OF SEEING THE BEAM OF LIGHT FROM THE POLE TO THE FIELD.
BUT YOU WILL NOT BE, I, I ASSURE YOU, YOU WILL NOT BE EXPERIENCING ANY LIGHT IN ANYBODY'S BACKYARD.
THE, THE HAVING TO CLOSE ANYBODY'S WINDOWS
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TO BLOCK LIGHT FROM COMING INTO YOUR HOME.UM, I VERY MUCH ASSURE YOU WE, UH, THAT THAT IS NOT THE INTENTION AND THAT IS NOT WHAT WILL HAPPEN.
UH, AND WE HAVE THOUSANDS OF, UH, CASES FROM THE, UH, THE, THE MULTIPLE THOUSANDS OF PROJECTS THAT WE'VE DONE ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE VERY GOOD AT CONTROLLING THE LIGHT TO BE ON THE FIELD AND NOT IN ANYONE'S PROPERTY.
UH, UM, AND I HAVE, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF EXAMPLES THAT COULD BACK THAT UP.
SO, UH, IF THERE'S ANYTHING I CAN PROVIDE, UM, I'M, I'M AWAY FROM, YOU KNOW, FOR EXAMPLE, MY COMPUTER AND, AND STUFF LIKE THAT AT THIS TIME.
BUT I CAN PROVIDE, UH, WHETHER IT'S DOCUMENTATION, PICTURES, WHATEVER I CAN DO TO HELP SUPPORT THAT, UH, THIS, THESE LIGHTS WILL NOT BE INTRUSIVE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD I AM, YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, THE LIGHTS HAVE BEEN INSTALLED, UM, AFTER THIS WAS TREMENDOUS COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, DISCUSSION.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M THINKING IS SINCE THE LIGHTS ARE INSTALLED AND, AND OPERATIONAL, WHY CAN'T WE TEST OUT, YOU KNOW, THE LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOW PEOPLE HOW IT IS AND IF THERE'S NEIGHBORS WHO, UM, ARE HAVING SOME CONCERNS, WE COULD TWEAK IT BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL WHEN THEY HAVE THE LITTLE LEAGUE GAME.
SO THIS WAY, EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS JUST PUT THE LIGHTS.
THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, A COUPLE A MONTH AGO OR SO, I SAID, LET THE LITTLE LEAGUE PLAY IN.
THIS WAY WE COULD CHECK IT OUT, START MAKING LITTLE TWEAKS.
AND, YOU KNOW, OUR GOAL IS NOT TO DISRUPT QUALITY OF LIFE, BUT IT'S BASICALLY TO, UH, PROVIDE, UM, 700 LITTLE LEAGUERS WITH A OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, TO ENJOY, HAVE MORE GAMES, AND, UH, TO ENJOY GREENBERG GREENBERG RECREATION.
AND AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE LITTLE BUMPS AND LITTLE, LITTLE PROBLEMS. AND LIKE YOU SAID, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID YOU'LL CORRECT THEM.
AND YOU THIS, WE HAVE TIME BETWEEN NOW AND APRIL, AND THERE ARE SOME ON THE BOARD, INCLUDING MYSELF, WHO DIDN'T THINK THAT WE SHOULD MAKE 700 LITTLE LEAGUERS INTO GUINEA PIGS TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT THE POLES ARE SAFE AND ELECTRICITY IS SAFE WITHOUT THEM HAVING BEEN, UH, PERMITTED AND INSPECTED.
AND SO THAT'S WHY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN THE ONE NIGHT THAT THEY DID TURN THEM ON, UH, TO TEST SOMETHING.
IT WAS FOR A VERY SHORT DURATION.
AND IN THAT VERY SHORT DURATION, WHEN, WHEN SOMEBODY ON SOUTH STONE NOTICED IT AND JUST STOPPED ME AT THE SUPERMARKET AND MENTIONED IT, IT WASN'T THAT HE WAS ALL THAT CRITICAL.
HE WAS JUST, UH, MENTIONING WHY WERE THEY ON.
AND, UM, THAT HE DID SEEM TO THINK THAT, UM, THAT THERE WAS SPILLAGE WITH YOUR LIGHTS.
WILL YOU BE ABLE TO, UM, FINE TUNE IT ENOUGH THAT EVEN THE BACKYARDS ON BA COURT WILL NOT GET ANY SPILLAGE? ABSOLUTELY.
UH, AND TO, UM, TO THE POINT THAT WAS MADE BEFORE, WE CAN ABSOLUTELY FINE TUNE THEM NOW.
UM, THEY HAVE BEEN, UH, COMMISSIONED AND BY MUCO STANDARDS IS, ARE FULLY OPERATIONAL.
UH, THERE'S NOTHING, UH, THAT WOULD PREVENT US FROM STARTING SOME SORT OF FINE TUNING PROCESS NOW.
SO, UM, I, I AM FULLY BEHIND THE IDEA OF, HEY, LET'S, LET'S GO AND TEST THEM OUT.
AND, AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO STAND OUT THERE MYSELF WITH A LIGHT METER, UH, AND SEE HOW MUCH LIGHT WE ARE GETTING OUTSIDE OF THE FIELD, CLOSE TO THAT PROPERTY LINE ON STONE STREET.
UM, I'D HA I'D HAPPY I'VE BEEN THERE.
UH, I'VE BEEN THERE BEFORE TO TROUBLESHOOT, UM, UH, A, A FIXTURE THAT WAS OUT AND JUST NEEDED A REPLACEMENT PART, WHICH IS NOW, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, OPERATIONAL.
UM, SO I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, UH, TEST THEM, BE OUT THERE MYSELF PERSONALLY, WITH A LIGHT METER, UH, AND SEE WHAT READINGS WE ARE GETTING, UH, AND DOCUMENT ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE FINE TUNED AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD STRONGLY SUGGEST, PARTICULARLY SINCE YOU DON'T HAVE GOVERNMENTAL IMMUNITY YET, THAT YOU DO NOT DO ANYTHING IN VIOLATION OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WHICH RIGHT NOW HAS SAID YOU CAN'T DO ANY, UM, GAMES OR LIGHTS, UM, UNTIL THERE ARE PERMITS AND THE INSPECTIONS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
UH, THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME BETWEEN NOW AND THE BEGINNING OF THE SEASON, UH, TO DO THOSE TESTINGS.
BUT I STRONGLY URGE YOU NOT TO START PLAYING AROUND WITH, UM, LIGHTS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN INSPECTED.
I'M JUST OFFERING MYSELF AS A RESOURCE TO THE TIME.
UH, I'M SORRY, YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED.
UM, MAY I HAVE MR. JOHN MALONE, COULD YOU STATE YOUR POSITION WITH THE EL LITTLE LEAGUE TOO? WELL, I'M A RESIDENT FIRST.
AND THEN MY NAME'S JOHN MALONE.
I'M VICE PRESIDENT OF ELZER LITTLE LEAGUE.
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I'VE BEEN ON THE BOARD FOR 22 YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO, WAITING A LONG TIME FOR, TO GET LIGHTS DOWN IN THE FIELD.
AND FRANCIS, I'LL JUST START OFF.
YOUR FIRST THING ABOUT SOMEBODY COMPLAINING ON SOUTH STONE.
WE KNOW THEY PUT THE LIGHTS ON, SO HOW CAN THEY COMPLAIN? THEY WERE ON, I, I CONFIRM THAT THEY WERE DOING SOME TYPE, SOMEBODY WAS TURNED THEM ON.
WHO TURNED THEM ON? I WILL HAVE TO FIND THAT OUT.
BUT THERE'S, THEY WENT ON DURING THE DAY, NOT AT NIGHT.
'CAUSE I WAS DOWN THERE WHEN THEY TESTED HIM, BOBBY BRE AND MYSELF AND THE MIKE FROM THE ENGINEERING.
SO THERE'S NO WAY THEY COULD SEE IT FROM SOUTH STONE.
AND, UM, 'CAUSE I'M SAYING THEY'RE NOT, NOT ON YET WORRYING ABOUT THE POLES FALLING OVER.
THEY'RE 30 FEET DEEP BECAUSE THEY USE, WHEN WE BUILT THE BUILDING, WE DID SOIL SAMPLES.
THEY WERE ALL ON PILES, 30 FEET DOWN ON THE GROUND.
UM, AND IF THE POLES DID FALL OVER, THEY WERE NEVER HIT ONE OF THOSE HOUSES.
THE HOUSES ARE ABOUT 250 FEET AWAY.
UM, AND YOU WOULD AGREE THAT CHILDREN COULD BE IN THE BACKYARD? NOT, WELL, I'M MORE WORRIED ABOUT FALLING ON KIDS, PLAYING THE GAME, NEVERMIND HITTING THE HOUSE.
WELL, THAT'S WHY I WAS CONCERNED.
UM, AND YOU SAID THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A PERMIT THAT'S ON THE TOWN.
WHEN WE FIRST STARTED TO GET LIGHTS, THE LITTLE LEAGUE PUT UP MONEY FOR, TO HELP PAY THE, FOR THE LIGHTS.
AND THEN FRANK MOTO, THE HEAD BUILDING DEPARTMENT CAME DOWN, SAID WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH POWER TO RUN NEW LIGHTS, SO WE HAD TO GET MORE MONEY FROM THE TOWN TO RUN THE LIGHTS.
RECREATION GUYS DUG THE TRENCHES FOR THE WIRES TO THE POLES.
SO THE TOWN KNEW ABOUT THIS ALL THE WAY THE WHOLE TIME.
UM, FRANK EVEN CAME DOWN AND SPLICED THE WIRES THAT WERE CUT AND THEY DUG THE TRENCH.
SO, AND WE DIDN'T PLAY ANY NIGHT GAMES.
THE LIGHTS WERE UP AND WIRED, BUT WE NEVER TURNED THEM ON BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE PERMIT.
AND, UM, WE, I'M ON THE RECORD ADVISORY BOARD ALSO, AND I KNOW THERE'S LIKE 114 POLES THROUGHOUT THE TOWN.
EAST BERG PARK BASKETBALL COURTS NEVER HAD A PERMIT TO PUT UP LIGHT POLES BEFORE IN THE TOWN.
NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN AFTER THESE, THESE ARE UP, YOU MAKE US GO AHEAD AND GET PERMITS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, NOT US LITTLE LEAGUE.
IT'S A MUCO MUSCO HASS DONE WORK IN THE TOWN BEFORE.
THEY NEVER WENT THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
IT SEEMS LIKE THE PROCESS HAS CHANGED.
UM, IT'S A DIFFERENT BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
WHAT'D YOU SAY? IT'S A DIFFERENT BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
IT STILL SAYS TOWN OF GREENBERG.
I'D BE A DIFFERENT PERSON RUNNING IT, BUT THERE'S NOBODY EXEMPT DIFFERENT
I KNOW COMMISSIONER LOCA CAN'T BE HERE FROM REX.
BUT, UM, HE WAS JUST AS DUMBFOUNDED AS WE WERE WHEN THIS ALL CAME.
YOU KNOW, HE'S A NEW COMMISSIONER, YOU KNOW, JUST ABOUT A YEAR OR WHATEVER.
BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT THE LIGHTS, THEY'RE UP, THEY'RE WIRED, THEY'RE ALL READY TO GO, AND THERE'S NO WAY SOMEBODY'S GONNA SEE IT FROM, I DON'T FIND OUT WHERE THE, THE WOMAN WAS FROM BEFORE, BUT NOBODY ON SOUTH STONE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO SEE THESE LIGHTS.
NOW WITH THE LEDS, UM, YOU JUST SHINE RIGHT DOWN THE FIELD.
THERE'S NO LIGHT POLLUTION ANYMORE.
SO WHEN YOU DO THE TEST, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I KNOW THIS WHOLE THING.
THERE'S NO WAY SOMEBODY SAW IT FROM SOUTH STONE.
I GO TO THE SUPERMARKET TOO A LOT.
AND I, I HAVEN'T, I DIDN'T BUMP INTO THAT PERSON.
I, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S FUNDING.
I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S FINDING FAULT WITH, WITH YOU AND, AND YOUR, YOUR GREAT EFFORTS.
UM, THE CONTRACTORS REALLY SHOULD BE AWARE THAT THEY SHOULD FILE.
YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT YOU MOVED AHEAD ALL IN GOOD FAITH.
WELL, I'M SAYING THIS IS THE CONTRACT THAT THE TOWN'S USED FOR 20 YEARS.
HE'S ALWAYS IN, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD HAVE SAID, OH, YOU GOTTA GET A PERMIT.
THEY HAD A PERMIT WHEN THEY HAD THE CRANES RAISING THEM UP.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A SPECIAL COMPANY CAME AND DID THAT.
THE TOWN OFFICIALS WERE THERE TOO, SO EVERYBODY KNEW WHAT WAS GOING ON.
SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT THEY'RE UP AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN INSPECTED.
AND THAT'S ALL WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE INSPECTED AND THEY'RE SAFE.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
THE TOWN SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOWN THERE WATCHING IT.
UM, I SHOULD HAVE, I VIDEOED THEM, WENT ON CREAM, BUT I DIDN'T VIDEO THE HOLE THAT THEY PUT 'EM IN.
BUT I THINK THE TOWN, UM, WAS INSPECTING.
AND I THINK THE TOWN BASICALLY WAS PAYING ATTENTION TO IT BECAUSE I WAS CONSTANTLY TALKING TO, UM, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE TOWN TALKING ABOUT THE LIGHTS.
LIKE YOU SAID, MR. MODO, YOU KNOW, WAS, WAS HELPFUL.
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UM, FROM THE BEGINNING, RICHIE FA, FRANKAND YOU KNOW, A IS A, A REALLY WOULD BE THE BIGGEST EMBARRASSMENT, UH, FOR THE TOWN.
IF YOU PUT A LIGHT, IF YOU'RE SPENDING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, IF THE LITTLE LEAGUE RAISED OVER A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS IN PRIVATE DONATIONS, AND AFTER THE, AFTER THE LIGHTS ARE UP, WE, YOU SAID, OH, BY THE WAY, TAKE IT DOWN.
THAT MAKE THAT MAKE, WHO HAS SAID TAKE IT DOWN? WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU, YOU'VE BA THE THING IS, I, WE JUST HOPE THAT WE GET TO PLAY IN.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT HOPE DAY IS IN APRIL.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'LL BE YOU, YOU WILL GET TO PLAY IN APRIL.
YOU G YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO PLAY WHEN WITH THE PARENTS AS WELL, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE POLES THAT ARE THERE HAVE BEEN INSPECTED AND THEY'RE SAFE.
THE, OUR SEASON IS OVER AND THE WOMAN WAS SAYING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ALL 12 YEARS, WE DON'T PLAY 12 MONTHS A YEAR.
WE PLAY FROM APRIL UNTIL THE END OF OCTOBER.
YOU KNOW, THAT, I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING, LET'S, LET'S DEAL WITH WHERE THE, THE ISSUE IS AND WHAT THE IMPORTANT THING IS.
LET'S STOP WITH BLAME GAMES AT THIS POINT.
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE.
AND THAT IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR, FOR US ALL.
WELL, I ALREADY KNOW JOEL, AK HAS AN ENGINEER COMING.
IT'S COSTING $5,000 TO DO THAT, BUT WELL, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S EXTRA INSURANCE.
BUT I'M TELLING YOU, LET'S, LET'S, IT'S UNFORTUNATE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE WHILE THEY WERE BEING PUT UP.
LET'S, LET'S JUST MOVE FORWARD ON THIS.
THE IMPORTANT THING IS THE LIGHTS ARE UP.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS LEGIT AND THAT THEY'RE SAFE.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE OF EVERYBODY'S SAFETY.
AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S THE IMPORTANT THING TO ALSO, WE CAN ALL AGREE ON THAT.
AND THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK BECAUSE YOU'RE SUCH A ASSET TO THE TOWN, UM, AND THE LITTLE LEAGUE.
AND YOU KNOW, I THINK, UH, YOU'RE A REAL, UH, HERO TO MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY FOR EVERYTHING YOU'VE DONE TO ENHANCE THE LIFE OF SO MANY YOUNG PEOPLE.
I THINK THERE WERE TWO PEOPLE ONLINE WHO HAD THEIR HANDS.
JOHN WAS ONE THAT WAS ONE OF, OKAY.
HE'S ALSO A HELL OF A FIREFIGHTER.
UH, MY NAME IS JORDAN BRENNER.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF ELSTER LITTLE LEAGUE.
AND I WANTED TO PIGGYBACK OFF SOME OF WHAT JOHN WAS SAYING WITH SOME CONCERNS OF MY OWN THAT WERE RAISED AT THIS MEETING.
UM, COUNCILMAN SHEAN, I HAVE TO OBJECT TO SEVERAL COMMENTS YOU MADE, STARTING WITH THE LAST ONE WHERE YOU SAID, WHO TALKED ABOUT BRINGING THE LIGHT POLES DOWN.
YOU DID, SIR, EARLIER IN THE MEETING, AND IT'S IN THE TRANSCRIPT.
SO YOU SAID IT WAS AN IF CLAUSE, BUT YOU ACTUALLY BROACHED THE IDEA OF HAVING TO TAKE THE POLLS DOWN.
SO I WANT YOU TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR WORDS.
AND WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS THAT YOUR WORDS ARE NOT MATCHING THE ACTIONS.
OKAY? THIS PROJECT WAS ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO BE COMPLETED IN APRIL.
THIS WAS NO SECRET TO ANYONE ON THE TOWN BOARD OR ANY DEPARTMENT.
I AM REALLY STRUGGLING TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR LOCAL GOVERNMENT CANNOT UNDERSTAND WHAT HAVE ONE HAND IS DOING WHEN THE OTHER HAND'S DOING SOMETHING.
SO YOU SAID AGAIN, MR. UH, MR. SHEEN, YOU SAID EARLIER THAT QUOTE, THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT DIDN'T KNOW THEY WERE GOING UP.
IN FACT, FRANK MODO WAS INVITED TO SEVERAL MEETINGS AT THE FIELD, SEVERAL OF WHICH HE DID NOT ATTEND.
ONLY AT THE LAST MINUTE THIS FALL WHEN THE PROJECT WAS NEAR COMPLETION, DID LIZ GARRITY COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK AND EXPRESSED CONCERNS OVER THIS.
SO, AS JOHN MALONE POINTED OUT, THIS IS NOT FOLLOWING ANY PRECEDENT THE TOWN HAS EVER EXHIBITED WITH LIGHT POLES.
WE ARE NOW RAISING A STRAW MAN OF SAFETY THAT WAS NEVER FOLLOWED WITH ANY OTHER DEPARTMENT BEFORE.
AND WE'VE LOST AN ENTIRE YEAR, AN ENTIRE CLASS OF LITTLE LEAGUE KIDS WHO WOULD'VE ENJOYED PLAYING UNDER THE LIGHTS, WHO NOW WILL NEVER GET TO.
AND NOW WE'RE BRINGING UP A STRAW MAN HERE.
WHAT IS GOING ON? I, I'LL ALSO ADD THAT, UM, YOU SAID THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY WEREN'T INSPECTED.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT TWO DEPARTMENTS IN THE SAME GOVERNMENT ARE NOT WORKING TOGETHER.
WHERE IS THE COMMUNICATION AND WHO IS ULTIMATELY RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT? THREE MINUTES AND 11, 11 SECONDS LEFT.
COUNCILMAN, I'D LOVE YOUR ANSWER BECAUSE OH, OH, OKAY.
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AND SO WHO'S, WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE CONTRACT AND NOT FILING FOR PERMITS? IF, IF, IF THEY NEEDED TO FILE FOR PERMITS, WHY DIDN'T YOU SAY ANYTHING OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS? WHY DIDN'T THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT SAY ANYTHING OVER THE PAST 12 MONTHS? WHY IS IT BEING RAISED NOW? I HAVE NEVER FROM THIS DESK TOLD ANY DEVELOPER WHO CAME IN TO DEVELOP ANYTHING.BY THE WAY, YOU HAVE TO FILE FOR PERMITS.
'CAUSE IT'S UNDERSTOOD AMONG CONTRACTORS THAT YOU HAVE TO FILE FOR ELECTRICAL PERMITS.
IF YOU'RE CONSTRUCTING A, A STRUCTURE, YOU HAVE TO FILE FOR PERMITS.
IT WOULD NEVER DAWN ON ME TO TELL A CONTRACTOR THAT YOU NEED TO GET PERMITS IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
IS THAT, IS THAT WITH INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES WORKING TOGETHER? HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT? HAVE YOU ASKED THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND THE REC DEPARTMENT IF UNDER SIMILAR PROJECTS, THEY'VE BEEN REQUIRED TO HAVE A PERMIT? HAVE YOU HAD THAT CONVERSATION WITH JOE LUCCHESE OR FRANK MODO? FRANK MODO HAS NOT BEEN A BUILDING INSPECTOR.
FRANK MODO WAS NOT, THERE'S SOMETHING THAN GRANDSTANDING ON YOUR CAR RIGHT NOW.
PLEASE DO NOT ASK A QUESTION AND NOT WAIT FOR AN ANSWER.
FRANK MODO WAS NOT THE BUILDING INSPECTOR FOR ANY OTHER LIGHTS AND OTHER, ANY OTHER PARKS THAT I KNOW OF IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
HE TOLD ME THAT HE DIDN'T REALIZE THAT THEY WERE GOING UP WHEN THEY WERE GOING UP.
THEY RELY ON CONTRACTORS FILING, BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS OR PERMITS, ELECTRICAL PERMITS TO KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS ACTUALLY ABOUT TO HAPPEN.
NOT THAT IT'S IN THE PLANNING STAGE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY COMING TO FRUITION.
SO WHY DIDN'T HE ATTEND THE RELEVANT MEETINGS THEN? I'M NOT HIM.
MR. MALONE SAID THAT HE WAS ON IN THE FIELD WHILE THE, WHILE THEY WERE DOING WORK, HE WAS GIVING ADVICE.
SO THE THING IS, I CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY SOMEBODY, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR OR THE DEPUTY BUILDING INSPECTOR WOULD NOT HAVE, THEY KNEW THAT THE WORK WAS GOING ON.
THIS WAS A TOWN, UH, SPONSORED PROJECT.
IT'S A, IT WAS IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
THE TOWN BOARD, UH, PUT THE FUNDING IN THE BUDGET.
UM, SO WE OVERSAW THE WHOLE PROJECT.
SO THERE'S NO EXCUSE TO HAVE WAITED UNTIL AFTER THE LIGHTS WERE UP TO SAY, BY THE WAY, YOU DIDN'T COMPLY WITH THE LAW.
WHEN THE TOWN IS THE APPLICANT, IF I'M DOING WORK ON MY HOUSE, IT'S MY RESPONSIBILITY AS A, AS A HOMEOWNER TO GET A PERMIT.
AND, YOU KNOW, SO THE THING IS, THE TOWN OF GREENBERG IS THE OWNER.
AND IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS A TOWN BEFORE A PROJECT GOES UP, BEFORE WE SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS ON AN ENHANCEMENT TO, TO SAY IF A PERMIT IS NEEDED, A PERMIT SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE, UH, UM, SHOULD BE, YOU KNOW, UH, FILED.
SO DID DID YOU TELL THEM THAT PER I DON'T KNOW THAT I'M NOT I ENGINEER.
I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE EXACTLY.
IT SEEMS THAT THINGS WERE TAKEN FOR GRANTED ON BOTH SIDES AND ASSUMED THIS IS RIDICULOUS.
THIS WAS NOT A CONTROVERSY UNTIL YOU MADE IT CONTROVERSY, UNTIL YOU DECIDED THAT YOU DON'T WANT THE LIGHTS AT THIS YEAR.
YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU DECIDED THAT I DON'T WANT THE LIGHTS.
WELL, THAT'S WHAT, THAT SOUNDS TO ME, THAT YOU DON'T WANT LIGHTS.
THAT'S, THAT'S TRYING TO TOTALLY, TOTALLY.
IF IT'S UP, IF IT'S UP IN APRIL, THEN I'LL APOLOGIZE.
PAUL, IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH IN APRIL, I'LL SAY YOU STOP.
JOE LOI, THE COMMISSIONER OF PARKS IS ON.
AND I BELIEVE HE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK, YOUR HONOR, I STILL HAVE SOME TIMERS.
MR. BRENNER, YOU HAVE 51 SECONDS LEFT.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO POINT OUT JUST THAT WE NEED TO NOT BE DELVING INTO THE WORLD OF ALTERNATIVE FACTS HERE.
I KNOW THERE ARE CERTAIN ELEMENTS OF OUR GOVERNMENT AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL THAT'D LIKE TO USE THAT TERM.
I WANT TO BE CLEAR ABOUT A FEW THINGS.
ONE, PARENTS DO NOT TAILGATE IN CARS AT ELMSFORD LITTLE LEAGUE.
I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.
PARENTS, WHAT WE HA PARENTS DO NOT TAILGATE IN CARS AT ELMSFORD LITTLE LEAGUE.
RAISED SOME VERY INTERESTING IDEAS.
UH, I BELIEVE THERE ARE NEIGHBORS OF OURS WHO LIKE TO WATCH OUR GAMES AND PLAY MUSIC FROM THEIR BACKYARD, WHICH WE LOVE.
WE ARE NOT EXTENDING OUR SEASON.
IT WILL BE TOO COLD TO PLAY LATER.
WE DO NOT HAVE A SEVENTH INNING STRETCH IN A SIX INNING GAME.
FOUR, WE HAVE NEVER USED ROWBOATS TO RESCUE PEOPLE FROM OUR FIELD.
THERE IS NO PLAN OR CAPACITY OR ABILITY TO PLAY AN ADULT SOFTBALL LEAGUE PARTICULARLY 'CAUSE THE FENCES ARE TOO SHORT.
SO AGAIN, IF PEOPLE ARE GONNA COME SPEAK, YOU'RE AT LEAST TRY TO BE ACCURATE.
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CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME? YES.UH, SO I JUST LANDED IN HOTEL, UM, IN, UH, OHIO.
AND I'M CATCHING UP ON SOME OF THIS AND I WANT TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT MUSCOW LIGHTING DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG.
UM, THEY HAVE BEEN HIRED BY THE TOWN MANY TIMES IN THE PAST, AND WE'VE NEVER HAD THEM GET A PERMIT FOR ANY OF THE LIGHTS OVER A HUNDRED POLES.
IT DOES SEEM THAT YES, THE NEW, UM, THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT NOW ARE GONNA BE VERY STRICT, WHICH IS FINE, AND WE WILL NEVER MAKE THIS MISTAKE AGAIN.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT JUST SEEMED THAT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT GOT CAUGHT IN A TURNOVER.
UM, AND I JUST WANT TO BE ABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE BOARD MAY HAVE THAT MAYBE I CAN ANSWER NOW.
IT DOES EXPLAIN WHY THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THERE PERMITS ARE NEEDED, WHICH IS VERY HELPFUL.
YEAH, IT, IT REALLY, SERIOUSLY, WE WERE, UM, WE WERE CAUGHT, UM, UNAWARES.
UM, WE'VE NEVER HAD A PERMIT FOR ANY OF THE, UM, A HUNDRED LIGHT POLES THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE TOWN BEFORE.
AND, UM, WE WON'T MAKE THAT MISTAKE AGAIN FOR ANY OF OUR PROJECTS ON TOWN PROPERTY.
I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE ARE ALSO SPECIAL CIRCUMSTANCES HERE, AND THERE MAY HAVE BEEN OTHER TIMES IN, IN INSTALLING LIGHTS, BUT YOU'RE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A FLOOD ZONE, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT VERY HIGH POLES.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THAT WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE BEING, IT'S BETTER SAFE THAN SORRY.
SO, UM, I THINK IT, WE ALL BENEFIT FROM THE SECURITY OF KNOWING THAT WE HAVE THE EXTRA LEVEL OF SAFETY AND THAT THESE HAVE BEEN PROPERLY INSPECTED AND THAT THEY WILL WITHSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHO KNOWS WE COULD HAVE A TORNADO BECAUSE THESE CRAZY STORMS THAT SEEM TO HAVE PLAGUED US, UH, A HUNDRED YEAR STORMS WHEN THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN EVERY HUNDRED YEARS, BUT THEY'RE HAPPENING TWICE A YEAR.
UM, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CAN HAPPEN.
SO I THINK THAT, THAT, THAT EXTRA SECURITY IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
AND, AND I, AND I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, AND I'VE BEEN ON THE, UM, PHONE WITH THE ENGINEER WE'RE BRINGING IN FROM, UH, UH, PENNSYLVANIA.
HE'S A SPECIALIST IN THIS TO CHECK THE, UH, SECURITY OF THE POLLS.
HE'LL BE OUT HERE AND I THINK THE LAST TIME I TALKED TO HIM, IT'S GONNA, HE'S GONNA TRY AND GET THIS DONE BEFORE, UH, THE, UH, CHRISTMAS HOLIDAYS BECAUSE HE, HE DOESN'T LIKE TO WORK IN FROZEN GROUND.
UM, SO THIS WE HOPE WILL BE FINISHED BEFORE THE END OF DECEMBER.
SO THAT SHOULD ENSURE THAT, UM, WITH THE PROCESSES WE'RE DISCUSSING THAT YOU'LL HAVE BASE BASEBALL IN APRIL.
AND THE REASON WHY WE HAVE TO DO LEGISLATIVE IMMUNITY, AS I SAID BEFORE, IS THE BUILDING INSPECTOR.
THE CURRENT BUILDING INSPECTOR IS VERY STRICT WITH THE CODE.
IN PAST AND PAST YEARS, PRIOR TO HIS BEING OUR BUILDING INSPECTOR, THERE WERE SOME PROPERTY OWNERS AND PROPERTIES.
THEY BUILT STRUCTURES, THEY PUT UP LIGHTING, THEY PUT UP PLUMBING, THEY PUT IN HAZARDOUS WASTE TANKS ALL WITHOUT A PERMIT.
AND THAT WENT ON FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.
AND THEN WE GOT A NEW BUILDING INSPECTOR.
THEY NEEDED PERMITS, THEY NEEDED APPROVALS.
AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS SOMETHING NEW, BUT FRANKLY, I WELCOME EVERYONE BEING TREATED EQUALLY AND NOT, SOME PEOPLE BEING MORE EQUAL THAN OTHERS.
AND THEY SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE, THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THIS.
UM, WERE ABLE TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANTED ON THEIR PROPERTY WITHOUT PERMITS.
AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT TOWN PROPERTY EITHER.
SO AS MUCH AS THIS IS A BUMPY ROAD, AND SOME MAY TRY TO MAKE IT POLITICAL, UH, IT'S JUST A MATTER OF MAKING SURE EVERYBODY DO, DOES WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, GETS PERMITS, GETS THE INSPECTIONS, UH, AND EVERYTHING IS SAFE.
AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS, UM, THE ENGINEER WILL SPEAK, THE ENGINEER I EXPECT WILL GIVE US BACK A REPORT THAT SAYS THAT THEY'RE STRUCTURALLY SOUND AND EVERYBODY CAN ENJOY THEM IN THE SPRING.
AND I JUST WANT TO ASSURE YOU, AGAIN, ALL FUTURE PROJECTS WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT,
SO WE RESOLVE THIS, RIGHT? UM, ANYBODY ELSE? ONLINE? ONLINE? ANYONE ONLINE? NOBODY'S ONLINE.
SO YOU WANT TO ADJOURN THE HEARING? YES.
UM, AND UH, JOE, DO YOU THINK, IS JOE STILL ON THE LINE? YES, HE IS.
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LAST MEETING IS DECEMBER, UM, ISN'T IT DECEMBER 17TH FOR THE YEAR? YEAH.SO WE DO HAVE THE 17TH, BUT THAT'S BASICALLY JUST THE VOTE ON THE BUDGET SO WE COULD VOTE ON THIS STUDENTS.
SO WHAT ABOUT, UH, UH, HAVING THE HEARING THE WEEK BEFORE THE MONDAY BEFORE THE DECEMBER 10TH? UH, AND THIS WAY, UH, YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY JOE COULD ASK, UH, THE, THE CONTRACTOR IF, YOU KNOW, HE COULD BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, DO ALL THE, DO ALL THE WORK AND GIVE US A REPORT AND THEN WE COULD VOTE ON THIS ON DECEMBER 17TH.
YOU CAN PLAN FOR THAT, BUT I CAN'T GUARANTEE IT UNTIL HIS SCHEDULE GETS ALL SET.
UM, I JUST KNOW THAT BY, HE, HE HAS TO COME OUT AND HE HAS TO ACTUALLY DO THE WORK, AND THEN HE HAS TO WRITE A REPORT.
SO WHETHER WE GET IT BY THAT TIME, I CAN'T TELL YOU, BUT IF YOU PLAN FOR IT, UM, AT THIS POINT I CAN'T, I CAN'T GUARANTEE THAT.
COULD YOU MAYBE JUST LIKE, ASK HIM IF HE COULD MAKE AN EFFORT? SURE, ABSOLUTELY.
BECAUSE HE SAID HE IS GONNA DO IT BEFORE CHRIS, YOU KNOW, CHRISTMAS ANYWAY BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR.
SO MY GUESS IS HE'S PROBABLY GONNA WANT TO DO IT EARL, YOU KNOW, AT THE END OF NOVEMBER OR THE BEGINNING OF DECEMBER.
SO LET'S MAKE IT DECEMBER 10TH, AND THEN WE WILL HOPEFULLY HAVE A VOTE ON DECEMBER 17TH, OR WE COULD DO IT DECEMBER 10TH.
WHY DON'T WE TRY TO HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 10TH, RIGHT? BECAUSE THE 17TH IS GENERALLY THE BUDGET AND PEOPLE WILL SAY IT'S TOO CLOSE TO VALIDATE.
NO, I'M SAYING THE THE VOTE WOULD BE DECEMBER 10TH THROUGH DECEMBER 17TH.
IF WE, NO, I'M SAYING WE COULD HAVE THE HEARING AND IF EVERY THERE'S NO CONTROVERSY, THEN WE CAN JUST SO WE CAN CLOSE THE HEARING AND VOTE ON ON AND THE VOTE WOULD BE ON THE 17TH.
WELL, WE WE'RE SAYING THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE TROUBLE GETTING THE, HE NEEDS MORE ENOUGH TIME TO NO, I'M SAYING HOPEFULLY WHAT WE SCHEDULE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE 10TH.
AND THE POTENTIAL VOTE FOR, AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE THAT PUBLIC HEARING IF THE, IF WE DON'T HAVE THE REPORT, THERE'S NO SENSE IN HAVING IT.
BUT WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
YOU MAKING A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION.
WE'RE KEEPING THE RECORD OPEN FOR ALL PURPOSES UNTIL DECEMBER 10TH.
THE NEXT, UH, UH, TWO HEARINGS ARE ON, ARE BEING HELD OVER.
I MEAN, IT IS BASICALLY POSTPONE WE'RE HELD OVER.
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WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS ABOUT ANYTHING.AND WHILE JIM COMES TO THE PODIUM, JUST WANNA REMIND EVERYONE THAT THIS IS, AGAIN, A FIVE MINUTE ROUND.
EACH PERSON WILL GET FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
CLOCK IS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROOM.
AND WE'LL START WHEN YOU BEGIN SPEAKING, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND DIRECT ALL COMMENTS TO THE BOARD.
UM, AND THIS IS GONNA SOUND FRIVOLOUS COMPARED TO THE LAST SUBJECT,
UM, MY NAME IS JIM BLAND AND I'M A 40 PLUS YEAR RESIDENT OF, UH, OF GREENBURG.
UM, AND WHAT I'M REALLY HERE ABOUT IS WHAT I CONSIDER, UM, A QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUE.
UH, LET ME GIVE YOU SOME BACKGROUND AND ABOUT AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED A WEEK AGO, NOVEMBER 5TH, AT ABOUT 3 45 IN THE AFTERNOON.
I WAS NORTHBOUND ON CENTRAL AVENUE.
HAVING JUST LEFT THE NATURE CENTER.
I WAS GONNA TURN RIGHT AT FOUR CORNERS AND GO TO MY HOME, WHICH IS NEAR THIS DALE GOLF CLUB.
UM, AS I GOT CLOSER TO THE FOUR CORNERS, I COULD SEE THAT TRAFFIC WAS BACKED UP AND THAT FLASHERS WERE GOING AT THE INTERSECTION ITSELF.
AND AS I GOT CLOSER TO THE INTERSECTION, I SAW SEVERAL POLICE CARS AND OFFICERS.
THEN AT THE INTERSECTION ITSELF, I SAW WHEN I WAS ABLE TO TURN RIGHT ON EAST HARSDALE AVENUE, I SAW TWO MEN IN DARK GREEN, BROWN UNIFORMS. I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THE UNIFORMS. THEY DIDN'T HAVE ANY, UM, NOMENCLATURE THAT I COULD SEE.
UM, AND THEY WERE STANDING THERE WITH MACHINE GUNS.
I DON'T KNOW GUNS, UH, I'M NOT A GUN PERSON.
UH, BUT THEY WERE MACHINE GUNS, LONG RIFLES WITH BIG MAGAZINES.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE AR FIFTEENS, WHETHER THEY'RE AUTOMATIC RIFLES, MACHINE GUNS, WHATEVER.
AND UNLIKE THE OTHER POLICE, THE TWO MEN IN THE BROWN OR GREEN UNIFORMS DID NOT HAVE ANY NOMENCLATURE.
LIKE POLICE, LIKE I KNOW THE GREENBURG POLICE, I'VE LIVED HERE FOR MORE THAN 40 YEARS.
GREENBURG POLICE ARE QUITE IDENTIFIABLE.
THEY HAVE A BIG POLICE THING ON THEIR UNIFORMS, AND THEIR UNIFORMS ARE DARK BLUE OR BLACK.
JUST DOWN EAST DALE AVENUE, I COULD SEE A HONDA SEDAN THAT HAD BEEN DAMAGED IN AN APPARENT ACCIDENT, UH, AND A POLICE, UH, GREENBURG POLICE VAN.
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UM, AND ON THE BACK OF THE VAN, WHEN I GOT A LITTLE FURTHER DOWN EAST TARS HILL AVENUE, I COULD SEE THAT THAT VAN SAID SPECIAL OPERATIONS ON THE BACK.WHEN I GOT TO THE INTERSECTION, I ASKED ONE OF THE GUYS IN THE BROWN GREEN UNIFORMS WHO THEY WERE, WHO ARE YOU? ARE YOU POLICE? ARE YOU ICE? MEANING, YOU KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS COUNTRY? I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE GUYS AND MACHINE GUNS IN MY COMMUNITY AT THIS INTERSECTION WITH LOTS OF PEOPLE MILLING AROUND.
AND, UM, ONE OF THEM MOTIONED WITH HIS WEAPON TO MOVE ALONG AND THEN SAID HE WAS GREENBURG POLICE FURTHER DOWN HARSDALE AVENUE.
UM, I LEARNED THAT THERE WAS A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION GOING ON, AND BY THEN THE WEIRD UNIFORMS, UM, WERE GETTING INTO THE VAN AND THEY DROVE AWAY.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT ENCOUNTERING TWO MEN WITH MACHINE GUNS DRAWN IN UNIDENTIFIABLE UNIFORMS WAS VERY DISCONCERTING AND MADE ME FEEL VERY MUCH AT RISK SIMPLY BY THEIR PRESENCE.
FURTHERMORE, IT FEELS LIKE AN ESCALATION NOW THAT I KNOW THAT THEY WERE GREENBURG POLICE, IT FEELS LIKE AN ESCALATION IN THE WEAPONRY IN OUR COMMUNITY.
AND I WAS UNAWARE OF THAT BEING THE CASE.
AND I AM NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IT AS A CITIZEN.
I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT HAPPENED.
I DON'T KNOW WHEN IT HAPPENED.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU KNOW IT HAPPENED.
SO I HAVE A BUNCH OF QUESTIONS AND I WOULD LIKE ANSWERS, NOT NECESSARILY TONIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE SOME SERIOUS ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS.
WHY WAS THIS TEAM FOR THIS INCIDENT ENGAGED IN THIS INCIDENT, GIVEN THAT THERE WERE ALREADY MANY OTHER POLICE OFFICERS PRESENT, WHY WERE SPECIAL OPS NECESSARY AND WHY WOULD THEY BE ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR MACHINE GUNS DRAWN AT THIS INTERSECTION? FOUR CORNERS RIGHT HERE.
THE VERY INTERSECTION WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MONDAY NIGHT AS ONE OF THE KEY INTERSECTIONS IN THIS COMMUNITY IS THAT WHAT WE WANT TO BE GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY, UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS AND A BROADER LEVEL BEYOND THIS INCIDENT, UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS ARE SPECIAL OPS CALLED UPON? UNDER WHAT CONDITIONS ARE THEY ALLOWED TO HAVE THEIR WEAPONS DRAWN? WHAT IS THIS UNIT'S BUDGET AND WHO IS IN CHARGE OF IT? WHO HOLDS THEM ACCOUNTABLE? AND HOW CAN THE COMMUNITY HAVE MORE INSIGHT AND OVERSIGHT ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF THIS UNIT AND HOW IT IS UTILIZED? THANK YOU.
GREAT FOR, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WATCHING THIS, YOU KNOW, ON TV, YOU KNOW, ON TV.
I DID SPEAK TO THE POLICE CHIEF, UM, AND, UM, I KNOW THAT THERE, I THINK THERE WAS A ROBBERY AND GOOD I, THE POLICE BASICALLY, UH, WAS SUCCESSFUL IN, UH, CAPTURING THE PEOPLE WHO WERE COMMITTING, YOU KNOW, THE CRIME.
UM, AND I KNOW THE POLICE, UM, YOU KNOW, ARE REVIEWING, UM, YOU KNOW, THE INCIDENT AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, YOU KNOW, INVESTIGATING IT.
YOU KNOW, THE CHIEF ISN'T HERE RIGHT NOW, BUT I DID, I DID SPEAK TO HIM.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THAT ANSWERS HIS QUESTION.
I'M SAYING I DON'T WANT, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK TO THE POLICE.
I CAN'T GIVE ADDITIONAL TIME TO EVERYBODY IN THE ROOM.
WE WILL LOOK INTO YOUR QUESTIONS AND RESPOND.
WE WANNA KNOW HOW THIS IS GONNA BE RESPONDED.
DO YOU WANT TO, DO YOU WANT I WOULD HAPPY YOU CAN.
I ALREADY SENT A NOTE TO THE CHIEF WHILE YOU WERE SPEAKING TO GET SOME MORE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION SO EVERYONE COULD REVIEW MORE INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD GIVE.
BECAUSE I SORT OF FEEL THAT IF PEOPLE WATCHING US ON TV, THEY SHOULD GET A RESPONSE IF POSSIBLE.
IT, IT WAS A ROBBERY, LIKE YOU SAID.
THAT'S THE INFORMATION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
I DID SEND SOME QUESTIONS TO CHIEF AND WE'LL DISPERSE THOSE ANSWERS ONCE WE GET THEM RIGHT.
MIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT YOU COULD SAY ON TOP OF THAT AT THE TIMEFRAME? HE SAID, I KNOW THERE WAS A ROBBERY, WHICH INVOLVED, UH OH.
DO YOU WANT TO COME TO THE MIC? COME TO THE MIC.
I SAID I HAVE TO DEFER TO THE CHIEF FOR THAT, BUT AT THAT TIME THERE WAS A ROBBERY WITH, UH, FOOT PURSUIT AND ALL SUSPECTS WERE APPREHENDED.
AND AS YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR OFFICERS ARE READILY IDENTIFIABLE AND WHAT ALL OF OUR OFFICERS ARE READILY IDENTIFIABLE.
MEANING? MEANING WHAT? UNIFORMS. UNIFORMS OR, UH, RAY JACKETS.
THEY HAVE SOMETHING THAT SAYS POLICE ON THEM.
SO ARE THERE SPECIAL, ARE THERE SPECIAL UNIFORMS THAT ARE GREEN AND BROWN AS, UH, WE DO HAVE A SPECIAL OPERATIONS UNIT THAT DOES HAVE, DOES IT SAY SPECIAL OPS ON IT?
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YES, IT DOES.HI, MY NAME IS RACHEL TI UM, THAT IS MY MOTHER-IN-LAW.
MARGARET TI I'M JUST UP HERE READING FOR HER.
UM, SO WE JUST ASK FOR FIVE MINUTES OF YOUR TIME TO LISTEN TO THIS LETTER.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL HEAR IT.
AS VETERAN DAY HAS JUST PASSED, THIS IS COMING FROM HER NOW.
MY HEART IS FILLED WITH BOTH PRIDE AND PAIN.
PRIDE BECAUSE I'M BLESSED TO LIVE IN A COUNTRY BUILT ON COURAGE, SACRIFICE, AND FREEDOM, PAIN BECAUSE THOSE BLESSINGS COME AT THE HIGHEST COST PAID BY BRAVE MEN AND WOMEN WHO HAVE WORN THE UNIFORM OF THE UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
EVERY YEAR ON THIS DAY, I STOP AND THINK ABOUT WHAT IT TRULY MEANS TO SERVE.
I THINK ABOUT THE SOLDIER WHO MISSES THEIR CHILD'S FIRST STEPS, THE MARINE WHO NEVER COMES HOME, AND THE VETERAN WHO STILL CARRIES THE WEIGHT OF WAR LONG AFTER THE BATTLE ENDS.
THESE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE GIVEN US EVERYTHING AND THEY DESERVE NOTHING LESS THAN OUR COMPLETE RESPECT AND GRATITUDE.
THAT IS WHY WHAT I RECENTLY LEARNED HAS WEIGHED HEAVILY ON ME.
I DISCOVERED THAT A CAPTAIN WITH THE GREENBERG POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN CLAIMING VETERAN DAYS PAID OFF DAYS RESERVED FOR THOSE WHO HAVE HONORABLY SERVED OUR COUNTRY.
THIS CAPTAIN SERVED JUST 95 DAYS IN THE MARINE CORPS, NEVER COMPLETED BASIC TRAINING, AND WAS DISCHARGED DURING THE INITIAL TRAINING PERIOD.
ACCORDING TO FEDERAL LAW, SPECIFICALLY 38 USC 1 0 1 2, A VETERAN IS DEFINED AS SOMEONE WHO HAS SERVED AT LEAST 180 DAYS OF ACTIVE DUTY.
THIS MEANS THE CAPTAIN IS NOT LEGALLY RECOGNIZED AS A VETERAN, YET HE HAS BEEN ACCEPTING THESE PAID DAYS OFF KNOWING HE DOES NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS.
TO SOME, THIS MIGHT SOUND LIKE A SMALL THING, TWO EXTRA PAID DAYS A YEAR.
BUT TO THOSE WHO HAVE SERVED AND TO THOSE WHO HAVE LOST LOVED ONES IN SERVICE, IT REPRESENTS SOMETHING GREATER.
IT REPRESENTS HONOR AND THAT CANNOT BE TAKEN LIGHTLY.
WHEN SOMEONE FALSELY CLAIMS THE TITLE OF A VETERAN FOR PERSONAL GAIN, IT IS NOT ONLY UNETHICAL, IT IS BETRAYAL OF EVERY MAN AND WOMAN WHO HAS TRULY EARNED IT.
THE STOLEN VALOR ACT OF 2013 CALLS THIS FRAUDULENTLY REPRESENTING ONESELF AS A VETERAN TO GAIN BENEFITS, BUT BEYOND LAWS AND DEFINITIONS, THIS IS ABOUT RESPECT FOR SERVICE, FOR SACRIFICE, AND FOR TRUTH.
THIS ISSUE HAS BEEN BROUGHT TO THE ATTENTION OF AUTHORITIES, BUT THE MATTER WAS SENT BACK FOR INTERNAL REVIEW WITHIN THE SAME DEPARTMENT WHERE THIS INDIVIDUAL WORKS.
THAT RIGHT RAISES SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT FAIRNESS AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
HOW CAN AN INTERNAL INVESTIGATION BE UNBIASED WHEN IT INVOLVES ONE OF THEIR OWN? I DON'T RAISE THIS OUT OF ANGER, BUT OUT OF LOVE.
LOVE FOR MY COUNTRY AND FOR THE COUNTLESS VETERANS AND FAMILIES WHO HAVE TRULY GIVEN THEIR ALL MY FAMILY'S LEGACY OF SERVICE RUNS DEEP.
MY FATHER AND HIS FOUR BROTHERS ALL SERVED IN WORLD WAR II.
ONE EARNED A BRONZE STAR WITH A CONVA V AND A PURPLE HEART.
MY LATE HUSBAND SERVED AS A MARINE IN VIETNAM AND WAS WOUNDED BY A GRENADE AND IS ALSO A RECIPIENT OF A PURPLE HEART.
BOTH OF MY SONS PROUDLY SERVED IN THE UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS AS WELL.
COMPLETING COMBAT TOURS IN BOSNIA, KOSOVO, AND SUPPORTING COMBAT OPERATIONS IN IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN DURING OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM AND ENDURING FREEDOM.
MY GRANDSON IS CURRENTLY SERVING WITH TWO BATTALION, WITH THE SECOND BATTALION, 25TH MARINES.
AND MY GRANDDAUGHTER WILL BE COMMISSIONED AT A SEC AS A SECOND LIEUTENANT IN 2026.
SURFACE IS NOT JUST A WORD IN MY FAMILY, IT'S A WAY OF LIFE.
IT'S TRADITION BUILT ON SACRIFICE, NOT PRIVILEGE.
AND THAT IS WHY THIS SITUATION CUTS SO DEEPLY ON VETERAN'S DAY.
THIS VETERAN'S DAY, I ASK EVERYONE TO PAUSE AND REMEMBER WHAT IT TRULY MEANS TO SERVE, NOT FOR RECOGNITION, NOT FOR REWARD, BUT FOR SOMETHING GREATER THAN OURSELVES.
LET US HONOR THOSE WHO STOOD IN HARM'S WAY SO THAT WE CAN LIVE FREELY, LET US PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THEIR SERVICE, THEIR SACRIFICES, AND THE TRUTH OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A VETERAN.
MY QUESTION TO THE TOWN OF GREENBERG IS WHY IS THIS PERSON ALLOWED TO BENEFIT FROM VETERAN DAYS WHEN HE IS NOT A VETERAN? AND THAT IS BY FEDERAL AND STATE LAW.
WELL, WE WILL DEFINITELY INVESTIGATE THIS AND FOLLOW UP AND GET, GET BACK TO YOU.
AND, YOU KNOW, THIS HAS TO BE GIVEN ATTENTION.
IT WAS INVESTIGATED ALREADY AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT CAPTAIN MET THE DEFINITIONS NOW THAT
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THAT WASN'T, UH, INVESTIGATION BY THE TOWN, BY, UM, YOU KNOW, THE LEGAL, IT WAS IT, I BELIEVE IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE DA AND THEY REFERRED IT BACK, UM, FOR AN INVESTIGATION BY PD.I'M SORRY, MY TIME WASN'T PAUSED, SO I WOULD LIKE TO YEAH, YOU CAN GET YOUR TIME BACK.
UM, WE RECEIVED A LETTER BACK FROM, FROM WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, UM, SAYING THAT THIS WAS NOT THE CASE.
I DEFINITELY FEEL LIKE WE HAVE EVERYTHING WE NEED TO PROVE THAT IT IS THE CASE AND, UH, WE'RE JUST BEING GASLIT HONESTLY.
YOU ALREADY EMAILED EVERY BOARD MEMBER AS WELL, SO, OKAY.
CAN YOU REFER TO THE DATE THAT IT WAS SENT? UH, BACK IN APRIL OF 2024.
WAS THAT PRIOR TO IT GOING TO THE YES.
COULD YOU MAYBE EMAIL IT TO ME AGAIN? US? SURE.
I FIRST WANNA CLARIFY SOME ANSWERS THAT THE LITTLE LEAGUES SAID.
FIRST OF ALL, I SAID THAT THE NEW WIG FIELD WILL BE PROBABLY USED 12 TO 15 HOURS A DAY EVERY DAY FOR EIGHT MONTHS.
SECOND OF ALL, I SAID YES, THE LITTLE LEAGUE FIELD GETS FLOODED AND ROWBOATS HAD TO RESCUE PEOPLE ON BABBITT COURT.
NOW I WOULD LIKE TO READ MY ISSUE.
OH, THE, BEFORE READING THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO BE PUT ON THE LIST FOR THE LIGHT TESTING AS WITH THE PERSON ON SOUTH STONE.
'CAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.
I LIVE 70 FEET PROBABLY FROM THE BASEBALL FIELD 'CAUSE I'M ON THE HILL, AND I BELIEVE I'LL BE AFFECTED BY THE LIGHTS AS I'M CURRENTLY NOW AFFECTED BY THE LIGHTS AT THE PEPE AUTO GROUP.
AND I COMPLAINED LIKE FIVE, SIX YEARS AGO ABOUT THE LIGHTS AND THEY'RE STILL AFFECTING ME.
ON THE SHORT ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT FORM, I HAVE THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS.
QUESTION NUMBER ONE, SHOULD IT NOT BE YES, NOT NO, BECAUSE THE PROPOSED ACTION ONLY INVOLVES THE LEGISLATIVE ADOPTION OF A PLAN, LOCAL LAW ORDINANCE, ADMINISTRATIVE RULE, OR REGULATION.
IT SHOULD BE, YES, IT DOES, BECAUSE YOU NEED A VARIANCE.
IT DOESN'T COMPLY WITH SECTION 2 85, 36.
ALL LAND USES THAT OCCUR ARE ADJOINING OR NEAR THE PROPOSED ACTION.
THE PERSON ONLY CHECKED PARKLAND RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL.
I QUESTION INDUSTRIAL BECAUSE, UH, THERE'S COMMERCIAL, THERE'S ROYAL BUS LINES, THERE'S BARTLET TREE AND NORTH PAINTING.
QUESTION NUMBER FIVE IS THE PROPOSED ACTION.
A PERMITTED USE UNDER THE ZONING REGULATIONS.
OBVIOUSLY ALL TONIGHT WE FOUND OUT IT'S NO, THEY WROTE YES.
TOWN ORDERED IN SECTION 2 85 DASH 36 ONLY ALLOWS 14 FOOT POLES.
QUESTION NUMBER SIX, IS THE PROPOSED ACTION CONSISTENT WITH THE PREDOMINANT CHARACTER OF THE EXISTING BUILD OR NATURAL LANDSCAPE THEY WROTE? YES.
I SAY IT SHOULD BE NO, BECAUSE THE PROXIMITY TO RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.
QUESTION EIGHT A, WILL THE PROPOSED ACTION RESULT IN A SUBSTANTIAL INCREASE IN CHA IN TRAFFIC ABOVE PRESENT LEVELS THEY WROTE? NO.
EXTRA GAMES, MORE CARS LATER AND EARLIER IN THE DAY AND NIGHT, PROBABLY 30 TO 40 K NEW CARS PER GAME BECAUSE YOU HAVE TWO TEAMS PLAYING AND THE PARENTS AND THE COACHES.
SO I WANTED THE TOWN TO BE AWARE OF THIS.
AND THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO PEOPLE TO HAVE QUALITY OF LIFE.
I'M SORRY THEY PUT THE POLES UP, BUT THEY SHOULD HAVE REALIZED THAT THEY NEEDED, UH, A, A BUILDING PERMIT AND IT'S NOT PERMITTED REALLY IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND WE WERE NEVER NOTIFIED ON SPRINGBROOK PARKWAY DRIVE UNTIL THIS MEETING THAT ANYTHING WAS OCCURRING.
I DO WANNA CLARIFY, I DON'T WANNA GO DOWN THE WHOLE LIST, BUT YOU MENTIONED THAT THE USE IS NOT PERMITTED.
ALL OF OUR PARKS ARE ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
WHAT'S NOT PERMITTED IS THE HEIGHT.
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FOR THE HEIGHT, NOT THE USE.A FORMER TOWN CLERK, JUDITH BEVILLE.
UH, THE PROPER WAY TO INTRODUCE ME IS HONORABLE JUDITH BEVILLE, GREENBERG TOWN, FORMER TOWN CLERK.
UH, THE WOMAN WHO SPOKE BEFORE, UM, ABOUT THE, UH, VETERANS ACKNOWLEDGEMENT TALK REFERRED TO RESPECT, AND I AM HERE THIS EVENING, TO ALSO REFER TO THE ISSUE OF RESPECT, UM, REGARDING A FORMER RESIDENT HERE IN THE TOWN.
HISTORICALLY, BLACK WOMEN HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO DISRESPECT BIAS AND SYSTEMIC DISCRIMINATION, NOT ONLY IN THE WORKPLACE, BUT IN SOCIETY IN GENERAL.
DUE TO THE INTERSECTION OF RACISM AND SEXISM, THESE ISSUES MANIFEST IN BOTH OVERT AND COVERT OR SUB SU SUBTLE WAYS.
OLIVIA J H****R, ORIGINALLY FROM TULSA, OKLAHOMA, EXPERIENCED AS A CHILD WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN REFERRED TO AND FACTUALLY STATED IN DOCUMENTS, UH, HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, REFERRED TO AS THE WORST RACE RIOT IN AMERICA, LEAVING HUNDREDS DEAD, THOUSANDS HOMELESS.
AND SHE CONTINUED ON FROM CHILDHOOD WITH A LIFETIME OF PROCESSING THE TRAUMA FROM THE MOST DEVASTATING ACTS OF TERRORISM IN THE HISTORY OF AMERICA.
H****R ROSE ABOVE THE TRAUMA OF THIS MOST DASTARDLY ACT OF TERRORISM BASED ON RACISM TO ACQUIRE A DEGREE IN PSYCHOLOGY, TO BECOME A SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST, AS WELL AS TO BECOME THE FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMAN TO BE INDUCTED INTO UNITED STATES COAST GUARD.
SHE LIVED IN OUR TOWN OF GREENBERG FOR OVER 70 YEARS AND SERVED SEVERAL LEADERSHIP ROLES, INCLUDING GIRL SCOUT LEADER.
SHE PASSED AWAY IN TWO, 2015 AT THE AGE OF 103.
THERE IS, UH, UH, ORIGINALLY A STREET SIGN WAS PLACED ON SARAH, UH, I'M SORRY, ON JUNIPER HILL ROAD, HONORING DR.
OLIVIA J H****R BECAUSE THAT IS THE STREET THAT SHE LIVED ON.
SHE LIVED IN THIS TOWN ON SARA TOGA ROAD RECENTLY.
UH, ANOTHER SIGN HONORING A VERY, UM, WELL-KNOWN WOMAN IN THE GREENBURG SCHOOL DISTRICT AND BELOVED WOMAN, UM, UH, WAS PLACED AT, ON THE SAME SIGN ON JUNIPER HILL ROAD AND AT THE INTERSECTION OF SARATOGA ROAD.
BUT THIS WOMAN'S NAME WAS PLACED ABOVE THAT OF DR.
OLIVIA J H****R, WHO IS INTERNATIONALLY RENOWNED.
I HAVE COME BEFORE THIS BOARD ON SEVERAL OCCASIONS BECAUSE I'VE, I FEEL THAT THE SIGNS SHOULD BE EQUALLY, EQUALLY PLACED ON THE, ON, ON THE STREET SIGN.
IT IS A, UM, SIGN OF HUMILIATION, AN INSULT TO PLACE THE NAME OF SOMEONE ELSE ABOVE THAT, OF DR.
GIVEN HER HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE, I'M ASKING THAT THIS BOARD EITHER PLACE THE SIGNS SO THAT THEY ARE EQUAL WITH NOT HAVING ONE ABOVE THE OTHER, OR TO DESIGNATE A NEW LOCATION SUCH AS THE WALKWAY OUT HERE BETWEEN THE PARKING LOT AND FRONT AND THE FRONT DOOR.
AS THE DOCTOR OLIVIA J H****R WALKWAY IN HONOR OF THIS WOMAN, IN HONOR OF HER SIGNIFICANCE AND IN HONOR OF HER RESIDENTS HERE IN CONTRIBUTIONS HERE IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG, I JUST, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE, UM, AN HONOR TO HER HISTORY, HER HISTORICAL SIGNIFICANCE, AND HER LEGACY TO HAVE HER HONORED ON, IN, IN A MANNER IN WHICH SHE IS HONORED AS, UM, A, A STANDOUT INDIVIDUAL AND NOT, UM, ON A, UH, A STREET SIGN WITH SOMEONE ELSE WHOSE
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NAME IS POSTED ABOVE HERS.I THINK THAT THAT IS INSULTING AND IT IS HUMILIATING AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S DISRESPECTFUL.
YOUR, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT I, UM, I BASICALLY DISAGREE, UH, WITH YOU RELATING TO, UH, THE SIGNS BECAUSE I THINK MILISH, SHE AND, YOU KNOW, DESERVES, UH, UM, TO BE RECOGNIZED.
I DIDN'T SAY I DIDN'T, UH, I'M JUST SAYING I DI I THINK THAT IT WAS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE, UH, TO PUT THE SIGNAGE ON JUNIPER, YOU KNOW, HILL.
I KNOW THAT SHE WAS BELOVED IN THE SCHOOL DISTRICT AND IN THE COMMUNITY, AND I APPRECIATE, UH, WHAT SHE DID DURING HER LIFE.
UH, I DO LIKE THE SUGGESTION YOU MADE, UH, TO, UM, UH, DO AN ADDITIONAL RECOGNITION FOR OLIVIA H****R BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SHE IS SO HISTORIC IN THE, YOU KNOW, SHE MADE SUCH A IMPACT ON THE WORLD AND ON AMERICAN HISTORY.
I KNOW, I REMEMBER, UH, AT THE END OF HER LIFE, SHE WAS HONORED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
UM, AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SHE WAS EXCEPTIONAL.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING EVEN, YOU KNOW, MORE SPECIAL.
BUT I, I DEFINITELY DO NOT SUPPORT REMOVING, UM, YOU KNOW, MILLIE'S, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, SIGN, UH, FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, FROM THE JUNIPER HILL LOCATION.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, TO ME, YOUR SUGGESTION OF A, AN ADDITIONAL WAY OF RECOGNIZING OLIVIA H****R IS A, IS A FANTASTIC IDEA.
AND I NEVER SUGGESTED REMOVING THE OTHER PERSON SIGN MILLIE SHEEN.
I NEVER SUGGESTED THAT I ASK THAT THEY BE EQUALLY HOSTED.
I JUST SORT OF FEEL EQUALLY POSITIONED.
YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE COMMUNITY IS STILL, UH, MOURNING MILLIE'S DEATH.
AND I JUST FEEL THAT IT'S, UH, YOU KNOW, TO ME IT'S, IT WAS AN APP.
YOU KNOW, I, I THOUGHT THAT IT WAS A REALLY NICE THING, UH, WHEN WE PUT UP THE SIGN.
EQUALITY AND EQUITY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH BEING NICE.
DON'T, PLEASE DON'T WE PASSED THE FIVE MINUTE MARK LONG AGO.
AND YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO DISRESPECT OR INTERRUPT ME.
JUST WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON, UM, THE YOUNG LADY'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE LITTLE LEAGUE.
AGAIN, WE DON'T GO EIGHT TO UM, 12 TO 15 HOURS EVERY DAY.
'CAUSE THE KIDS, THE LIGHTS, THE LIGHTS ARE ONLY GONNA BE ON FROM SIX O'CLOCK TO 9, 9 30.
JOHN, JOHN, JOHN, COULD YOU JUST WAIT FOR A MOMENT? 'CAUSE I WANT TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT I'VE, UH, ADDRESSED TWICE BEFORE, BUT APPARENTLY THE FORMER CLERK DIDN'T HEAR IT.
THE REASON WHY MILLI ORTIZ SHEAN SIGN IS HIGHER THAN THE OLIVIA H****R SIGN IS THAT, AND I LEARNED THIS THE NIGHT OF THE UNVEILING, MILLIE IS A SIDE STREET.
MILLIE'S SIGN IS ON A SIDE STREET SIDE STREETS.
YOU PROBABLY NEVER NOTICED IT BEFORE OR ALWAYS HIGHER THAN THE MAIN STREET.
H****R, WHO I RESPECT DEEPLY, IS ON THE MAIN STREET.
AND THAT'S WHY HER SIGN IS LOWER ALONG WITH JUNIPER HILL.
H****R, IT'S SARATOGA ROAD, AND THEN MIL ARTIA.
THERE'S NO SIGN OF DISRESPECT.
IT'S A STANDARD THAT'S USED THROUGHOUT THE TOWN AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES.
IF YOU'RE ON A MAIN STREET, YOU PROBABLY KNOW YOU'RE ON THE MAIN STREET.
YOU'RE LOOKING FOR THE SIDE STREET.
SO THEY PUT THE SIDE STREET ON TOP.
THAT'S NO PROB THAT'S ON MY LIST.
THE REASON WHY ONE'S HIGHER, I LIVE ON SARATOGA ROAD, RIGHT? I MAKE IT, I MAKE THAT TURN EVERY DAY.
JUNIPER HILL, WHEN I LOOK UP, I SEE DR.
WHEN I MAKE THE RIGHT, I SEE YOUR WIFE'S NAME.
AND WE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS NO PROBLEMS WITH IT.
AND I THINK IT'S BOTH WOMEN ARE HONORED SUFFICIENTLY, BUT GOING BACK TO THE LITTLE LEAGUE, I DON'T WANNA GET INVOLVED IN, UM, THAT OTHER STUFF.
BUT TO SEE THAT FROM, SHE SAID SPRING BRICK PARKWAY DRIVE, I THINK THAT'S WHERE SHE SAID SHE LIVES.
WHEN WE PLAY WITH THE LIGHTS, LEAVES ARE IN FULL BLOOM FROM APRIL TO OCTOBER.
HE HAS HIS FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK.
WELL, I JUST FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT SHE'S GONNA SEE THE LIGHTS FROM HER HOUSE, BECAUSE I WENT AROUND WITH KRISTEN MORGAN KUMAR AND WE GOT A HUNDRED PERCENT SIGNATURES FROM THE PEOPLE THAT THE BACKYARD IS RIGHT TO THE LITTLE LEAGUE.
AND EVERYBODY SIGNED THE PETITION FOR US.
AND THAT'S THE ONE WE PRESENTED TO THE TOWN BOARD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I JUST HOPE ONE PERSON DOESN'T, UM, CHANGE YOUR, UM, 'CAUSE IF YOU WANT, I COULD BRING A THOUSAND PEOPLE
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HERE ON, NO, ON DECEMBER 10TH OR THE 17TH, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT NECESSARY.I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT AND AGAIN.
AND IF YOU COULD GIVE YOUR ADDRESS TO THE CLERK WHEN WE ARE TESTING THE LIGHTS, WE'LL BE SURE TO TEST IT FROM THAT LOCATION.
IT SAYS, COUNCIL CHEEN, YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY? OH, WAS IT NO.
UH, THE BOARD, UH, TOWN BOARD ACCEPTS THE RESIGNATION OF JOHANN SNAGS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD EFFECTIVE, UH, THE DATE THE TOWN CLERK, UH, RECEIVED THE RESIGNATION.
UM, AND THE TOWN BOARD ACCEPTS THE RESIGNATION OF LESLIE DAVIS FROM THE PLANNING BOARD.
EFFECTIVE, UH, THE DATE, UH, THE TOWN CLERK RECEIVED, UH, THE RESIGNATION.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THOSE SECOND.
COULD I SUGGEST THAT WE ACTUALLY PUT THE DATES IN? I JUST DIDN'T HAVE THEM.
SO WE'LL ACTUALLY PUT THE ACTUAL DATES.
THE LETTER WAS, WERE RECEIVED.
AND I'D LIKE TO THANK BOTH OF THEM FOR THEIR, UH, SERVICE AND HARD WORK.
UM, YOU KNOW, FOR THE TOWN, THEY BOTH HAVE MADE MAJOR CONTRIBUTIONS THAT I THINK HAVE BEEN VERY POSITIVE.
UM, THE TOWN BOARD HEREBY, UM, APPOINTS DYLAN PINE AS CHAIR OF THE PLANNING BOARD EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
DO YOU LIKE TO MAKE ACCEPTANCE SPEECH? IT'S USUALLY TYPICAL TO MAKE ABOUT A FIVE MINUTE SPEECH.
START THE CLOCK, MS. CLERK RIGHT NOW.
I'M, I'M GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE.
UM, WE HAVE A GREAT PLANNING BOARD, UH, ASSEMBLED RIGHT NOW.
UH, WE CERTAINLY HAVE WORK TO DO, BUT I THINK WE HAVE THE TEAM TO DO IT.
AND, AND I WANT TO THANK LESLIE FOR ALL OF HER WORK, UH, AS BEING CHAIR OVER THE PAST NUMBER OF MONTHS AND HER SERVICE ON THE BOARD OVER THE PAST FEW YEARS.
UM, WHILE I WISH I HAD MORE TIME TO, TO SERVE WITH HER AND LEARN WITH HER.
UH, SHE'S LAID A GREAT FOUNDATION, UH, AND I HOPE WE CAN CONTINUE THE MOMENTUM THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, OVER THE PAST YEAR.
BEST SPEECH SINCE SIGH GETTYSBURG.
[ TB 1 - 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a one year contract commencing January 1, 2024 through December 31, 2024 with the Village of Ardsley for fire protection services to the Chauncey Fire Protection District, at a cost not to exceed $11,536]
UM, UH, TB ONE RESOLUTION, UM, AUTHORIZING THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO ENTER INTO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2024, WITH THE VILLAGE OF LEY FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO TRUANCY, UM, FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED 11,000, UM, $536.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ TB 2 - 11/12/2024 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a one year contract commencing January 1, 2024 through December 31, 2024 with the Village of Ardsley for fire protection services to the South Ardsley Fire Protection District, at a cost not to exceed $370,203]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO ENTER INTO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2024 THROUGH DECEMBER 31, UH, 2024 WITH THE VILLAGE OF LEY FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO, UH, THE SOUTH LEY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED 370 UM, THOUSAND $203.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR.
UM, I DID SEND, UH, I MEAN I'M SENDING A LETTER TO ALL THE MAYORS AND ALL THE FIRE CHIEFS SUGGESTING THAT THEY GET US ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED SO WE COULD GOING FORWARD, UM, APPROVE CONTRACTS WITH ALL THE FIRE DISTRICTS, UM, UH, BEFORE THE, THE YEAR STARTS RATHER THAN TWO YEARS.
UH, YOU KNOW, AFTER SOME OF THEM WILL HAVE TO MODIFY THE CONTRACTS BECAUSE SOME OF THEM HAVEN'T REQUESTED THAT IN THE PAST.
NO, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING IT'S BEEN THEIR CHOICE.
I'M JUST, JUST SO MAKE IT CLEAR IT'S BEEN THEIR CHOICE TO DO IT THE WAY WE'VE BEEN DOING IT.
BUT I'M JUST WRITING, I JUST WROTE, I'M SENDING A LETTER AND SAYING THIS IS A SUGGESTION BECAUSE IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO, UH, APPROVE SOMETHING.
TWO YEARS AFTER THEY PROVIDED THE SERVICE CONTINUE.
UM, TB THREE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TOWN SUPERVISOR.
I'M WHO SECOND THAT WHAT? I'M SORRY.
WHO SECONDED? IT'S ONE OF YOU.
[ TB 3 - 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a one year contract commencing January 1, 2025 through December 31, 2025 with the Village of Ardsley for fire protection services to the Chauncey Fire Protection District, at a cost not to exceed $12,625]
UH, TB THREE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE TOWN SUPERVISOR TO ENTER INTO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025 WITH THE VILLAGE OF LEY FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO THE TRUANCY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED 12,000 6 25.LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ TB 4 - 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing the Town Supervisor to enter into a one year contract commencing January 1, 2025 through December 31, 2025 with the Village of Ardsley for fire protection services to the South Ardsley Fire Protection District, at a cost not to exceed $385,420]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TOWN SUPERVISOR 10 TO A ONE YEAR CONTRACT COMMENCING JANUARY 1ST, 2025 THROUGH DECEMBER 31ST, 2025 WITH THE VILLAGE OF ARDSLEY FOR FIRE PROTECTION SERVICES TO THE SOUTH ARDSLEY FIRE PROTECTION DISTRICT AT A COST NOT TO EXCEED 3 85 4 20.I'D LIKE TO DO THE, UH, MOVE THAT SECOND.
[ AT 1 - 11/12/2025 Resolution approving the continued retention of Wilson Elser Moskowitz Edelman & Dicker LLP to represent the Town and requested Greenburgh Police personnel in The Matter of Kristin Stein v. The Town of Greenburgh, et al., for an amount not to exceed $50,000, $950,000 in total]
AT T UH, ONE RESOLUTION APPROVING THE CONTINUED RETENTION OF WILSONS ER, MOSCOWITZ, UH, EDELMAN AND DICKER TO REPRESENT THE TOWN AND REQUESTED GREENBURG POLICE, UH, PERSONNEL IN THE MATTER OF KRISTEN STEIN V.TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $50,000.
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HAS BEEN IN TOTAL.AND, UM, I THINK THAT A, A BIG CHUNK OF THAT'S BEEN INSURANCE.
THIS ADDITIONAL $50,000 WILL BE PAID BY INSURANCE POLICY.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND, SECOND IN FAVOR.
[ AT 2 - 11/12/2025 Resolution approving the retention of John A. Desch, P.E., In The Matter of Deborah Kavourias As Administratrix of The Estate of Stephanie Kavourias, Deceased v. The Town of Greenburgh for an amount not to exceed $12,000]
GONNA ABSTAIN, UH, AT, AT TWO BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE WORK COULD BE DONE IN HOUSE, BUT I'M NOT.SO IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO MAKE THE MOTION, I MOVE RESOLUTION AT TWO RESOLUTION, IMPROVING THE RETENTION OF, UH, JOHN A DASH PE IN THE MATTER OF DEUS AS AS ADMINISTRATOR OF THE ESTATE OF STEPHANIE CAIUS DECEASED VERSUS THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $12,000.
AND THIS IS, UM, FOR BASICALLY A FORENSIC STUDY THAT IS VERY SPECIALIZED AND UM, REQUIRES A ATTORNEY AND, UH, IN, OR A, A, A PE ENGINEER, UM, WHO IS WELL VERSED IN AND LOOKING VERY CLOSELY AT THE SITE AND WHAT ALL THE, EVERYTHING THAT WENT INTO THE ACCIDENT.
SO THAT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT WE ARE TRAINED IN DOING.
SO I SECOND THAT ALL IN FAVOR? AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY.
YOU SUPPORT THIS RESOLUTION? I DO.
WHILE I FEEL THAT THE TOWN DOESN'T HAVE ANY WRONGDOING IN THIS CASE, I THINK IT IS THE IMPORTANT TO DEFEND THE CASE TO THE BEST OF YOUR ABILITY, ESPECIALLY WHEN I BELIEVE THE CLAIM WAS $20 MILLION.
I THINK IT'D BE WELL WORTH $12,000 TO SPEND ON THIS EXPERT.
[ AT 3 – 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing settlement of property damage related Claim, File No.: 110/25C by Marshall G. Lee for an amount not to exceed $1,964.84]
T THREE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT OF PROPERTY DAMAGE RELATED CLAIM FILE NUMBER 1 1 0 25 C BY MARSHALL LEE FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $1,964 AND 84 80 4 CENTS.[ AT 4 - 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlementwith petitioner Dil-Hill Realty Corp. for properties located at 590 Central Park Ave. and 0 Old Army Rd. The Town’s share of the refund is $7,809±; the County’s share is $3,861±; the Bronx Valley Sewer District’s share is $751±; the Edgemont Union Free School District’s share is $29,483±; the Greenville Fire District’s share is $5,371±; and the Consolidated Sewer Mtc. District’s share is $268±. Refunds from all sources total $47,542±]
A T FOUR RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX R SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER DEL HILL REALTY CORP FOR PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT FIVE 90 CENTRAL PARK AVENUE AND OLD ARMY ROAD REFUNDS FROM ALL ZERO OLD ARMY ROAD ZERO OLD ARMY ROAD REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES 47 5 42.[ AT 5 - 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner 21 Wildey Street LLC for property located at 21 Wildey St. The Town’s share of the refund is $588±; the County’s share is $3,802±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $776±; the Union Free School District of the Tarrytowns’ share is $28,088±. Refunds from all sources total $33,254±]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX ARY SETTLEMENT WITH PETITIONER 21 WALDI STREET FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 21 WALDE STREET.UM, REFUNDS FROM ALL SOURCES, UH, TOTAL 33 2 5 4.
I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ AT 6 - 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing tax certiorari settlement with petitioner Tappan Court Apts Corp for property located at 251-253 South Broadway. The Town’s share of the refund is $1,542±; the County’s share is $10,312±; the Saw Mill Valley Sewer District’s share is $1,900±; the Union Free School District of the Tarrytowns’ share is $74,050±. Refunds from all sources total $87,805±]
SIX RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING TAX ARY SARY SETTLEMENT.THE PETITIONER TAPPEN COURT ABS, UM, APARTMENTS CORP FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 2 5 1 2 5 3 SOUTH BROADWAY REFUNDS FROM WALL SOURCES 87 8 0 5.
[ CL 1 - 11/12/2025 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Monday, November 24, 2025 at 7:30pm to consider an amended site plan application by Metropolis Country Club [289 Dobbs Ferry Road, PO White Plains] [TB 25-09]]
C ONE RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR MONDAY, NOVEMBER 24TH, UM, AT 7:30 PM TO CONSIDER AN AMENDED SITE PLAN, UH, APPLICATION BY METROPOLIS COUNTRY CLUB.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ To consider a Local Law amending Chapter 605 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh, as it relates to Planning Board composition and procedures, by increasing the number of alternates from one to two and decreasing the membership from seven to five, with a one-year re-evaluation period of the reduction (moved to 11/24/2025 Town Board Meeting)]
[ CL 2 - 11/12/2025 Resolution scheduling a Public Hearing for Wednesday, November 24, 2025 at 7:30 PM to consider a Local Law amending Chapter 605 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh, as it relates to Planning Board composition and procedures, by increasing the number of alternates from one to two and decreasing the membership from seven to five, with a one-year re-evaluation period of the reduction]
RESOLUTION SCHEDULING A PUBLIC HEARING FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 24TH TO CONSIDER A LOCAL LAW, UM, AMENDING CHAPTER 6 0 5 OF THE CODE OF THE TOWN OF GREENBURG AS IT RELATES TO PLANNING BOARD COMPOSITION AND, UM, PROCEDURES BY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF ALTERNATES FROM ONE TO TWO AND DECREASING THE MEMBERSHIP FROM SEVEN TO FIVE WITH A ONE YEAR REEVALUATION PERIOD OF, UH, THE REDUCTION.UM, YOU KNOW, I'LL VOTE FOR THIS, BUT I'M DEFINITELY AGAINST, UH, DECREASING, UH, THE NUMBER OF PLANNING BOARD MEMBERS BECAUSE I THINK THAT THERE'S ADVANTAGES FOR THE COMMUNITY TO, FOR MORE PARTICIPATION, UH, FROM DIFFERENT SEGMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY ON THE PLANNING BOARD.
ALRIGHT, NOW WHAT'S RELEVANT IS ARE YOU MAKING A MOTION? I'M MAKING THE MOTION.
BUT DON'T WE HAVE A SECOND LOCAL LAW THAT WE HAVE TO WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SCHEDULED SO THEY'LL BOTH BE ON THE SAME.
I THINK WE HAVE TO DECLARE THAT FOR THE PUBLIC THOUGH.
[ To consider a Local Law amending Chapter 605 of the Code of the Town of Greenburgh, as it relates to Planning Board composition and procedures, by increasing the number of alternates from one to two (held over to 11/24/2025 Town Board Meeting)]
ON THAT MEETING, THERE WILL BE TWO PROPOSED LOCAL LAWS REVIEWED.ONE THAT SIMPLY ADDS ONE ADDITIONAL ALTERNATE TO THE PLANNING BOARD, SO WOULD REMAIN SEVEN MEMBERS, BUT GO FROM ONE ALTERNATE TO TWO ALTERNATES.
THE OTHER PROPOSED LAW WOULD NOT ONLY ADD AN ADDITIONAL ALTERNATE BUT ALSO DECREASE THE MEMBERSHIP FROM SEVEN MEMBERS TO FIVE MEMBERS.
BOTH WILL BE CONSIDERED ON THE SAME NIGHT.
THE PUBLIC CAN COME OUT AND SPEAK ON BOTH MATTERS.
AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE DOING THIS IS BECAUSE WE WILL THEN HAVE BOTH LAWS ON OUR DESK 10 DAYS, WHICH IS A REQUIREMENT.
AND SO WE, WE CAN GO WITH EITHER ONE OF THE VERSIONS DEPENDING ON WHAT WE APPROVE THAT NIGHT.
[ CD 1 - 11/12/2025 Resolution approving, with conditions, an amended site plan application by Brixmor SPE 6 LLC (Dalewood Shopping Center II [353-371 Central Avenue North, PO Hartsdale] & III [401-425 Central Avenue North, PO Hartsdale]) [TB 25-08]]
RESOLUTION APPROVING WITH CONDITIONS AND AMENDMENT SITE PLAN APPLICATION BY SMORE.OH, GARY, GARY, DALE, DALE SHOPPING CENTER.
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I'LL I'LL SECOND IT AND WOULD YOU, UH, ADDRESS MAN, I OSHA'S QUESTION.YEAH, IT'S LATE BUT I'LL, I'LL, I'LL BE BRIEF BUT I JUST A COUPLE THINGS.
I WANT TO, UM, MAKE CLEAR THIS APPLICATION BRICKS MORE.
UM, DALEWOOD TWO AND THREE IS REALLY AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE PROCESS WORKS.
WELL, UH, THE PLANNING BOARD BROUGHT IDEAS TO THE TABLE THAT WE AS STAFF, EVEN THE APPLICANT'S ENGINEERS AND THE TOWN'S TRAFFIC CONSULTANT DID NOT THINK OF DITTO.
THAT FOR UM, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC CAME UP WITH IDEAS THAT WE AS PLANNING AND ENGINEERING PROFESSIONALS DIDN'T THINK OF.
AND THE TOWN BOARD ALSO, UH, RAISED SOME POINTS THAT MODIFY THE PLANS.
UH, I DID WRITE A NICE NOTE TO MADELINE THANKING HER FOR HER COMMENTS.
UM, SHE I THINK MISSED SOME POINTS ON THE PLANS 'CAUSE THEY'RE SUBTLE, THEY'RE CALLOUTS, BUT I MADE IT CLEAR THAT, UM, THE THINGS SHE ASKED FOR ARE ABSOLUTELY IN THE PLAN.
THEY'VE BEEN POSTED, UH, EVER SINCE THE RESOLUTION WAS ON.
A LOT OF THOSE MODIFIC, ALL THOSE MODIFICATIONS ARE REFLECTED IN THE PLANS THAT YOU'RE VOTING ON, UH, IN A MOMENT HERE.
THIS IS TRULY A COMMUNITY PROJECT AND YOU KNOW, AND ACTUALLY EVEN GOING BACK TO THE SIZE OF THE BOARD AND INVOLVING COMMUNITY, THIS IS WHERE THE COMMUNITY COMES INTO PLAY AND WE LISTEN AND UM, AND MODIFICATIONS ARE MADE THAT CAN HAPPEN IN EVERY INSTANCE AND WE ENCOURAGE MORE PARTICIPATION BY THE COMMUNITY.
WE HAD A GREAT MEETING REGARDING THE FOUR CORNERS THE OTHER NIGHT.
THERE WERE QUITE A FEW PEOPLE HERE.
UM, PLEASE PARTICIPATE AND EVEN IF IT'S CRITICISM THAT'S FINE.
AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR MAKING REVISIONS THAT WE HAD RECOMMENDED REGARDING MAKING THE HANDICAP SPOTS, UH, EVEN SAFER.
[ CO 1 - 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing Fiscal Year 2025 budget transfers]
CO ONE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING FISCAL YEAR 2025 BUDGET TRANSFERS.[ CO 2 - 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing approval of a budget amendment to the Town Outside (B) Fund and the Capital Fund for various drainage projects]
CO2 RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING APPROVAL OF A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO THE TOWN OUTSIDE, UH, B FUND AND THE CAPITAL FUND FOR VARIOUS DRAINAGE PROJECTS.[ PO 1 - 11/12/2025 Resolution promoting Police Officer Jessica DeVito to Detective]
PO O ONE RESOLUTION PROMOTING POLICE OFFICER JESSICA DEVITO.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR.
[ PO 2 - 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing the Police Department to award the bid to upfit two (2) 2025 Ford Transit 250 cargo vans to the lowest responsible bidder at a total cost not to exceed $14,489.50 per vehicle]
RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO AWARD THE BID TO UP THE TWO, UH, 2025 FOUR TRANSFER TRANSIT TWO 50, UH, CARGO VNS TO THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER AT A COST, A TOTAL COST NOT TO EXCEED 14,000 489 50 PER VEHICLE.[ PW 1 - 11/12/25 Resolution authorizing extending the award of the contract for uniforms to Uniforms Today, LLC for an additional year, calendar year 2026]
AUTHORIZING EXTENDING THE WARD OF THE CONTRACT FOR UNIFORMS TO UNIFORMS, UH, TODAY FOR AN ADDITIONAL YEAR, CALENDAR YEAR 2026.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.
[ PW 2 - 11/2/2025 Resolution awarding the contract for the proposed Traffic Signal Installation and Sidewalk Improvements at Fort Hill and Ardsley Roads in the Town of Greenburgh to Morano Bros., the lowest responsible bidder, for an amount not to exceed $448,036]
UH, TWO RESOLUTION AWARDING THE CONTRACT FOR THE PROPOSED TRAFFIC SIGNAL INSTALLATION AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS AT FORT HILL AND LEY ROAD, UM, IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TO MURANO BROTHERS, THE LOWEST RESPONSIBLE BIDDER FOR AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED 4 4 8 0 3 6.A THAT'S AN IMPORTANT ONE, RIGHT? THAT'S A VERY GOOD ONE.
[ PW 3 - 11/12/2025 Resolution authorizing state certification to include 23 town roads on the State's Local Highway Inventory]
PW THREE RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING STATE'S CERTIFICATION TO, UM, INCLUDE 23 TOWN, UH, ROADS ON THE STATE'S LOCAL HIGHWAY INVENTORY.I'D LIKE TO MOVE THAT SECOND IN FAVOR, AYE.