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TO OUR TOWN BOARD WORK SESSION.TODAY'S, UH, NOVEMBER 25TH AT 5:30 PM AND, UH, THE FIRST, NO, SIX 30, WELL, IT'S ALMOST FIVE 30, UM, UM, AFTER FIVE 30.
AND, UM, IT'S, UM, AND TODAY WE'RE HAVING OUR WORK SESSION TO, AND THE FIRST ITEM IS THE BUDGET DISCUSSION.
SO, PAUL, COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO US, MICHAEL, TO IS KIMBERLY, UH, ON, IS KIMBERLY ON, LET'S SEE, SAM SINGER, WHO IS SAM SINGER? SARAH, ME WITH YOUR 500,000 I SPOKE TO, YOU KNOW, SHE SAID THAT RICH SAID THAT AS SEND, AND KIMBERLY, I SPOKE TO HER.
I REACHED OUT TO HER OVER THE WEEKEND.
I KNOW IF LIZ WANTS TO BE, UH, ON AS WELL.
NO, SHE CANNOT ATTEND TONIGHT.
SO, PAUL, WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET LAST NIGHT.
BUT APPARENTLY YOU REVISED IT OVER THE WEEKEND.
NO, I REVISED IT OCTOBER, UM, 26TH.
UH, I, UH, I HAD RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM, UM, WHICH WAS BEFORE THE DEADLINE, UH, KIMBERLY, UM, MAYBE KIMBERLY, YOU KNOW, I SENT KIMBERLY AND I SP I SENT RICH, UM, UH, UH, EMAILS BEFORE THE OCTOBER 30TH, UH, DEADLINE.
UM, I EMAILED KIMBERLY, YOU KNOW, OVER THE WEEKEND.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, BOTH SAID THAT, UH, THE REVISIONS THAT I WANTED, UM, WOULD BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET.
UH, THERE WERE BASICALLY TWO, ONE WAS $500,000 FOR, UM, UH, THE SIDEWALKS.
UM, AND I ALSO SPOKE TO, UM, DYLAN PINE, AND I SENT HIM A COPY OF, UM, THE EMAILS I SENT TO KIMBERLY AND RICH, UM, IN OCTOBER BEFORE THE OCTOBER 30TH.
AND THE OTHER WAS, UM, UH, RICH NEEDED TRUCKS FOR, UM, THE FOOD SCRAP, UM, UH, CURBSIDE RECYCLING INITIATIVE.
AND BOTH, THEY BOTH SAID THAT I SHOULDN'T WORRY, IT WOULD BE, UH, YOU KNOW, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, FUND IT.
BUT WHAT WAS FILED WITH THE CLERK AND THEN GIVEN TO US BY THE CLERK, THAT WAS NOT, IT WAS NOT, WAS, THAT WAS NOT ME.
I BASICALLY HAD, I SENT AN EMAIL TO RICH AND I SENT AN EMAIL TO KIMBERLY, UM, UM, I, AND I COPIED, UM, I SENT THEM COPIES OF MY CORRESPONDENCE.
UM, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO HAND DELIVERS IT TO THE CLERK, BUT I, I DIRECTED, UM, THAT, UH, BOTH ITEMS BE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT IF I DIRECTED AND THERE'S AN OCTOBER 30TH DEADLINE THAT MY, UM, MY REQUEST WOULD BE, UM, WOULD BE HONORED.
AND AGAIN, RICH, UM, I SPOKE TO DYLAN PINE, UM, YOU KNOW, OVER THE WEEKEND.
UM, UM, I EVEN, YOU KNOW, SPOKE TO, UH, JOY, UM, I COULD SEND THE QUESTION.
NO, THE, THE, I'M NOT THE ONE, WELL, LET ME, LEMME SAY SOMETHING.
I COULD EMAIL SHOW, SHARE THE EMAILS WITH YOU IF YOU WANT.
SO WHAT IS THE PROCESS THEN THAT YOU EXPECTED TO HAPPEN? THAT ACTUAL BUDGET? CAPITAL BUDGET WOULD BE, SORRY, WHAT? WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING TO HAPPEN WHERE WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE MOST UPTODATE COPY AND, AND IT WASN'T POSTED? I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WELL, WHY DON'T WE ASK, WHY DON'T WE ASK KIMBERLY? YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, WHY, SO WHAT WERE THE EMAILS THAT YOU SENT? I'M SORRY, LET YOU, YOU SAID THAT YOU WERE GOING TO SEND THEM TO US.
I I PROBABLY DID SEND IT TO YOU BECAUSE, UH, SIDEWALK, IT WAS, UH, I RECEIVED AN EMAIL ON 10 28, RIGHT, TO ADD $500,000 FOR, UM, THE PUBLIC SAFETY, I GUESS THOSE PRO SIDEWALKS, EXCEPT THE BUDGET WAS ALREADY FINALIZED BY THEN BECAUSE IT WAS NOT FINALIZED.
WAS IT? YOU WEREN'T AROUND INTERRUPT HER, LET HER, YOU ASKED HER TO SPEAK.
NO, LEMME JUST SAY, LET HER SPEAK, AND THEN WHEN SHE'S DONE, THEN YOU GET TO SPEAK.
AND THEN WHEN YOU ARE DONE, SHE GETS THAT.
WE FINALIZED THE BUDGET ON THE 28TH BECAUSE I WAS LEAVING FOR VACATION TO PENNSYLVANIA, AND I WANTED IT, UH, IN BEFORE I WAS DONE.
AND SO I DID NOT SEE THAT EMAIL, SO THE 500 WAS NOT IN THERE.
AND THEN FOR THIS, UH, FOOD SCRAP TRUCK,
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I NEVER GOT AN AMOUNT TO PUT IN THE BUDGET.SO IT DIDN'T GO IN AND I DIDN'T, I STILL DIDN'T HAVE AN AMOUNT YESTERDAY.
SO WE JUST HAD TO GOOGLE AN AMOUNT AND ESTIMATE HOW MUCH THE TRUCK WOULD COST.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING YESTERDAY ON AN, A DIFFERENT VERSION OF THE CAPITAL BUDGET THAN THE, UH, SUPERVISOR KNEW EXISTED.
BUT THE TOWN COUNCIL, UH, DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS CHANGE WAS MADE.
IT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE IF YOU, IT'S NOT TRUE BECAUSE, UM, I, UH, THE, THE TOWN COUNCIL WAS, UH, COPIED ON SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 26TH AT 10 50.
UH, THE TOWN COUNCIL WAS COPIED ON, UM, YOU KNOW, ON, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING ON NOVEMBER 26TH, WE WERE HANDED A CAPITAL BUDGET.
PLEASE DON'T POINT FINGERS AND BEING, BUT WE, WE'LL TALK, RESPECT THIS FINGER.
WE'LL, WE'LL TALK RESPECTFULLY.
THE, THE BOTTOM LINE IS, IS THIS THE BUDGET, FIRST OF ALL, THE CAPITAL BUDGET, UH, DOES NOT BY LAW HAVE TO BE, UM, UH, APPRO APPROVED BY DECEMBER 30TH, BECAUSE IN THE PAST, UP TILL LAST YEAR, WE ALWAYS DID THE CAPITAL BUDGET IN 2000.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE DID IT THE FOLLOWING YEAR, UH, LAST YEAR, WE DECIDED IT WOULD BE BETTER PRACTICES, UH, TO DO THE CAPITAL BUDGET AT THE SAME AS THE OPERATING BUDGET.
SO THE, SO BY LAW, THE ONLY THING I HAVE TO DO IS SUBMIT AN OPERATING BUDGET BY OCTOBER 30TH.
SO THERE'S NO, YOU DON'T HAVE THE SAME DEADLINES FOR CAPITAL AS YOU HAVE FOR OPERATING.
UM, YOU KNOW, BY STATE STATUTE.
SECOND, UM, IS, UM, I WAS ALWAYS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT I CAN MAKE, BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS IN THE PAST MADE LATE LAST MINUTE CHANGES, UM, UP TILL OCTOBER 30TH.
SO, UM, THE THING IS, UM, ON OCTO, YOU SAID OCTOBER 28TH, I SENT AN EMAIL TO, UM, TO, UH, TO KIMBERLY, UM, AND I SENT IT TO RICH VAUGHN BECAUSE I SPOKE TO BOTH, BOTH OF THEM.
AND I SAID, YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SHOULD BE ADDED IF, AND I, THE REASON I ADDED THE $500,000 IS BECAUSE DYLAN PINE, UH, SPOKE AT THE, AT A MEETING IN OCTOBER, AND HE BASICALLY COMPLAINED THAT, UM, OR HE BASICALLY POINTED OUT THE FACT THAT, UH, THE CAPITAL BUDGET DID NOT HAVE SIDEWALKS.
SO I WANTED TO BE RESPONSIVE TO, TO HIM AND TO THE COMMUNITY.
SO THEN I, I LOOKED AT THE BUDGET AND I SAID, GOSH, YOU KNOW, HE'S RIGHT.
SO I BASICALLY, UM, WROTE TO KIMBERLY BEFORE OCTOBER 30TH, AND I SAID, AND I SPOKE TO RICH FUNN, UM, AND I SAID, THESE ARE TWO ITEMS THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC WOULD, WOULD SUPPORT, PLEASE PUT THEM IN.
SO NOBODY TOLD ME THAT IT WAS GONNA BE OUT.
THEN DI DYLAN, UH, EMAILED EVERYBODY ON THE TOWN BOARD OVER THE WEEKEND, AND HE, I THINK ON SATURDAY MORNING AND SAID, RIGHT, DYLAN PINE, UH, SAID THAT IT WAS NOT IN, NO, THAT HE SAID IT WASN'T IN RIGHT.
SO THEN, UH, UH, I CALLED ON SATURDAY RICH FUN, AND I SAID, HOW COME IT'S NOT IN WHEN EVERYBODY SAID THAT IT WAS GONNA BE IN? SO RICH SAID, DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT.
WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT, IT, YOU KNOW, GETS IN.
SO, SO BASICALLY RIGHT NOW, FIRST OF ALL, BUT THAT'S ALL FINE.
THE QUESTION IS IF THERE WAS AN UPDATED BUDGET, WE NEED TO HAVE IT.
IT SEEMS LIKE THERE WAS AN OVER THE WEEKEND SWAP.
THERE WAS NO SWAP OVER, SWAP OVER THE, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T WRITE.
I BASICALLY SPOKE TO, HOLD ON ONE SECOND.
MAY I ASK QUESTION? THERE'S NO SWAP QUESTION.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION? UM, KIMBERLY SAID SHE WENT ON VACATION SO THAT SHE DIDN'T SEE YOUR EMAIL AND YOU KNEW THAT SHE WAS GOING ON VACATION.
SO THE, SO SHE WAS UNABLE TO, IT SOUNDS LIKE, PUT IT IN BEFORE THE 30TH DEADLINE.
IS THAT THE CASE? IS THAT WHAT I MEANT? THERE IS THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR THE CAPITAL BUDGET ON OCTOBER T I'M DO THEM AT THE SAME TIME.
IF THERE WAS, IF THERE WAS A BREAK IN THAT AGREEMENT, WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD.
WE WERE TOLD, WE SAID WE WANTED TO DO THE, THERE.
THERE'S, THERE'S NOT, FIRST OF ALL, THERE'S NO THERE, SORRY.
THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, WORK THAT GOES INTO THE BUDGET PREPARATION AND THE CALCULATIONS.
THERE'S, UH, EXCESSIVE EXCEL SHEETS THAT WE USE.
UM, AND SO WHEN ONE NUMBER CHANGES, WE HAVE TO GO AND UPDATE, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY 15 SPREADSHEETS AND RECALCULATE EVERYTHING AND CHANGE THE VERBIAGE.
AND I THINK THAT IT'S NOT UNREASONABLE TO ASK THAT NEXT YEAR WE HAVE A CUTOFF DATE FOR CHANGES SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN SUBMIT EVERYTHING ACCURATELY IN A TIMELY BASIS.
YEAH, AND THE ONLY OTHER THING I JUST, THAT'S FINE, BUT IT'S STILL NOT ANSWERING THE QUESTION.
IF THERE WAS AN UPDATED BUDGET, WHICH KIMBERLY WAS AWARE THERE WAS AND AND YOU WERE AWARE THERE WAS THEN WHY WAS WHAT WAS POSTED? NOT THE UPDATED ONE AND WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT,
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NOT THE UPDATED.THE THE QUESTION IS BASICALLY I HAD SPOKEN I, AND NOT THE ONE WHO PREPARES ALL THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE BASICALLY KIMBERLY, I TELL KIMBERLY WHAT I WANT IN THE BUDGET, AND THEN KIMBERLY IS AS A CONTROLLER, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTING THE DIRECTIVE SINCE IT'S, SINCE I SAID, YOU KNOW, I'M CONCERNED I'M NOT, I'M CONCERNED PUTTING SIDEWALKS IN AND THE FOOD SCRAP TRUCK.
SO, UM, SO RICH COULD IMPLEMENT THE, THE SUGGESTIONS, BUT LET ME SAY ONE OTHER THING.
THE BUDGET IS GONNA BE DECIDED BY ALL OF US.
SO WHETHER IT WAS IN THE TENTATIVE BUDGET OR WHETHER IT'S NOT IN THE TENTATIVE BUDGET, UM, THIS IS A BUDGET THAT EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD HAS TO DECIDE.
UH, ARE YOU BASICALLY, DO YOU WANT IT IN, DO YOU WANT TO APPROPRIATE MORE FUNDS FOR SIDEWALKS OR NOT? YOU KNOW, ALL OF US, I THINK THAT AGREE WITH ALL.
NO, BUT IT'S, IT'S PAUL, PAUL, THERE'S NO PROBLEM.
I'M JUST SAYING YOU ARE, IT IS NOT CLEAR THEN IF WE'RE WORKING OFF OF OLD INFORMATION FOR US OR THE PUBLIC WHO WERE AT A PUBLIC HEARING.
OKAY, WELL, LET ME JUST SAY I, THAT'S THE DEAL.
YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S, THE WHOLE THING IS WHERE IS THE NEW BUDGET POSTED? SO WE DON'T, WHEN KIMBERLY GETS, TELL US THEN.
WE'LL, UH, KIM, I ASKED OVER THE WEEKEND.
I, I SENT A BUNCH OF EMAILS TO KIMBERLY.
I SENT A BUNCH OF EMAILS TO DYLAN.
I SENT A BUNCH OF EMAILS TO RICH.
I MEAN, COULD WE REACH OUT TO RICH BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, DID WE REACH OUT TO THE BOARD? NO, NO.
I'M JUST, CAN WE REACH OUT TO THE BOARD? COULD WE, LET ME ASK RICH, BECAUSE I SPOKE TO, I SPOKE TO RICH.
HE SAID THAT IT WAS GONNA GET DONE AND I SHOULDN'T WORRY.
AN OPERATION OPERATING BUDGET WAS NOT REVISED AS THE CAPITAL AND IT'S POSTED ONLINE.
DO YOU KNOW WHERE, BECAUSE WHERE IT WAS POSTED FOR THE, WELL, WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
DID YOU LOOK AT THE CAPITAL BUDGET THAT WE HAD THE PUBLIC HEARING ON? BECAUSE YOU WOULD'VE NOTICED THAT IT DID NOT HAVE THAT IN THERE CHANGED.
LET ME, LET ME ASK A QUESTION.
I WOULD LIKE YOU TO ASK MY QUESTION.
DID YOU READ IT? I, THE PUBLIC HEARING FRANCIS, STOP INSULTING.
I'M NOT INSULTING WHAT ALL YOU INSULTING TO ASK YOU.
BASICALLY IF YOU WANT THE SIDEWALK IN THE BUDGET, YOU COULD PUT IT IN.
IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN SIDEWALKS AND YOU DON'T WANT IT, I TAKE IT OUT.
I DON'T WANNA BE, I DON'T WANT, NO, I, I DON'T.
WE'RE GONNA HAVE A FORENSIC AUDIT.
I DON'T WANT THIS OVER THE WEEKEND.
SWAPPING OUT DOCUMENTS WITHOUT TELLING ANYBODY.
AND YOU'RE THE LIAISON TO THE CONTROLLER AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU NEVER TELL ANYBODY WHAT'S GOING ON WITH YOUR LIAISONS THINGS.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT FORENSIC ORDERS.
WHAT, WHAT HAVE YOU, UH, NOT TOLD THE TOWN COURT? WELL, I, YOU ARE IN A PANIC OVER.
I JUST, I JUST LEARNED ABOUT 15 MINUTES AGO THAT OVER THE WEEKEND YOU HAD THIS MASH RUSH OF EMAILS AND CALLS TO SWAP OUT A DOCUMENT THAT YOU DIDN'T TELL ANYBODY ABOUT.
OUR DOCUMENT AND THE CAPITAL BUDGET AND WHAT WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING.
THERE'S COPIES OF MY COMMENTS TO THE BOARD.
PAUL, THIS IS THE STUPIDEST THING THAT I'VE EVER SAID.
PAUL, SIMPLY, I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO FIGHT.
OKAY, LET'S GO ON, GET INTO, I JUST WANNA GET A SIMPLE QUESTION.
WHEN WE HAD A, IT'S A ONE PAGE DOCUMENT.
WHEN WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CAPITAL BUDGET, YOUR CAPITAL BUDGET, DID YOU LOOK AT THAT DOCUMENT? YES.
AND BASICALLY, SO YOU SHOULD HAVE REALIZED IT DID NOT HAVE THAT MONEY IN THERE.
AND YOU SHOULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING LAST TIME.
WE BASICALLY, THE GOAL IS NOT TO FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER.
THE GOAL IS NOT TO GET INTO ARGUMENTS NOT TO HAVE BABY, BABY TANTRUMS. THE GOAL IS BASICALLY TO GET THINGS DONE.
SO BASICALLY THE, THE THE THINGS THAT I WANT, I WANT DONE IS THE SIDEWALKS NOT DECEIVE THE PUBLIC OR THE BOARD.
IT'S NOT DECEIVING BECAUSE I'VE ALWAYS SAID THAT I BELIEVE IN SIDEWALKS AND I ALWAYS HAD, SO STOP.
IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE GO INTO, UH, YOU BELIEVE, WHY DON'T YOU GO THE DOCUMENT A BABY DAYCARE CENTER AND START HAVING YOUR TANTRUMS THERE INSTEAD OF HERE.
WELL, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO THE PUBLIC.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE HELD A PUBLIC HEARING.
OKAY? WE COULD CHANGE IT ANY TIME.
I'M NOT GONNA GET INTO RESPONSIBILITY.
IT'S NOT ANYTHING YOU'RE HAVING TANTRUMS EVERYBODY ON THE NO, I'M NOT HAVING A TANTRUM.
YOU THINK EVERYBODY ELSE IS HAVING A TANTRUM? MAYBE IT'S YOU.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? OKAY, YOU KNOW WHAT? DO YOU KNOW WHAT FRANCIS? YOU'RE NOT INTERESTED IN THE BUDGET YOU INTERESTED IN STARTING UP? OKAY.
I JUST, I READ, I READ EVERYTHING MORE THAN YOU ACCURATE AND UPDATED INFORMATION THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
WELL ASK KIMBERLY BECAUSE I DIRECTED KIMBERLY TO PUT IT IN THE BUDGET.
AND YOU KNOW, WHAT IF IT ON THE 28TH AND YOU KNEW SHE WAS GOING ON VACATION.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S NOT.
IF THE BUDGET IS DUE OCTOBER 30TH,
OBVIOUSLY WHEN I'M ON, WAIT, LEMME SAY WHEN I'M ON VACATION,
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I ANSWER EMAILS.I EXPECT THAT DEPARTMENT HEADS WHEN THEY'RE ON VACATION WILL ALSO ANSWER EMAILS AND FOLLOW UP ON DIRECTIVES WHEN THE BUDGET IS DUE.
OCTOBER 30TH, THE BUDGET WAS NOT DUE OCTOBER 28TH.
THE BUDGET WAS DUE OCTOBER 30TH.
AND SO I, I COMPLIED WITH, UH, EVERY SINGLE REQUIREMENT OF BUT THE LAW.
BUT THIS WAS NOT THE, THAT WAS NOT PART OF THAT NO DATE.
YOU KNOW WHAT THE, THE, THE, WHEN I ASKED, WHEN I ASKED FOR SOMETHING TO BE IN THE BUDGET, I EXPECT IT TO BE IN THE BUDGET.
OKAY? AND THEN, AND, AND DON'T YOU THINK YOU HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO THEN CHECK TO SEE IF IT'S IN THERE WHEN WE'RE HAVING A PUBLIC HEARING? I DO.
AND DO YOU KNOW WHAT? AND DID YOU FIND IT IN THERE LAST? I SPOKE TO RICH.
I SPOKE TO RICH, AND HE SAID THAT, UH, I SHOULD NOT WORRY.
IT'S GONNA BE THAT WE WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO, IT'S A ONE PAGE DOCUMENT.
YOU HAD IT BEFORE YOU LAST NIGHT.
YOU DIDN'T THINK TO LOOK AT IT AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT IT WAS IN THERE.
THIS IS LIKE SUCH A WASTE OF TIME.
I'M GOING TO, YOU KNOW WHAT? WHY DON'T YOU JUST ARGUE WITH YOURSELF SO LONG? WE, YOU KNOW WHAT? I'M NOT GONNA PARTICIPATE IN THIS CRAP.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT? YOU, YOU'RE JUST WASTING MY TIME.
ALL YOU'RE DOING IS YOU'RE TRYING TO FIGHT.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IT'S, YOU TRIED TO DECEIVE US, PAUL.
FRANCIS, YOU TRIED TO DECEIVE US, FRANCIS, STOP.
WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING ON AN INCORRECT DOCUMENT.
AND BASICALLY IT'S CALLED BULLY.
THIS IS NOT, THIS IS NOT A MATTER FROM THE AUDIENCE.
PLEASE, WHAT YOU WERE DOING STAFF OVER THE WEEKEND, OKAY, STOP IT.
LET'S GO ON TO OTHER THINGS THAT YOU'RE GONNA CRITICIZE.
ARE YOU STAYING OR ARE YOU LEAVING? I'M GONNA STAY, BUT I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M BASICALLY REALLY ANNOYED BECAUSE BASICALLY THE GOAL RIGHT NOW IS TO COME UP WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE BUDGET NOT TO FIGHT WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS THE PUBLIC.
THE PUBLIC, THE PUBLIC HAVE THE UPDATED VERSION, UPDATED VERSION.
I'M WAITING FOR WHATEVER KIMBERLY HAS.
BUT THE PURPOSE OF TODAY IS YOU HAVE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHAT DOES YOUR BUDGET SAY? DOES THAT HAVE THAT IN THERE? THIS IS ABSURD.
BUT YOU, YOU, YOU'RE BECOMING A TOTAL EMBARRASSMENT TO THE I'M JUST ASKING YOU, YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU.
YOU HAVE LIABILITY TO THE TELL.
OH, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT YOU HAVE THE DOCUMENT IN FRONT OF YOU.
DOES IT HAVE THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS FOR EDGEMONT ON THAT SHEET? FIRST OF ALL, WHY DON'T WE GET RICH ON THE PHONE.
COULD YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION? I WANNA CALL RICH ON THE PHONE BECAUSE I SPOKE TO HIM SATURDAY AND I SAID, IN OTHER WORDS, BELIEVE YOU HAVE A DOCUMENT I SPOKE TO.
DOESN'T HAVE LET ME CALL HIM AND SEE IF HE PICKS UP.
NO, BECAUSE I SPOKE TO RICH ON SATURDAY.
WHAT DOES THAT HAVE? NO, LET ME SAY SOMETHING BESIDES THAT.
IF IT WAS SO IMPORTANT THAT THESE, THE, THE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS, WHY DID YOU WAIT UNTIL THE 28TH? WHAT? BECAUSE I, BECAUSE I WORK WITH RICH AND, AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, UM, AND BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, I WORK WITH HIM AND HE BASICALLY ASSURED ME THAT THERE'S MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THESE SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS.
AND, AND I SPOKE TO HIM ON SATURDAY MORNING.
WELL, WHILE YOU'RE WAITING, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM KIMBERLY WHAT SHE UNDERSTOOD, KIMBERLY, THAT THE, THE UPDATED CAPITAL BUDGET, WHERE IT WAS AND WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD RECEIVED IT.
UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.
WHERE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? WHERE IT WAS? IT WAS UPDATED YESTERDAY.
UM, OH, RICH, PLEASE CALL THE TOWN BOARD, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE WEEKEND, LET HER, RICH AND I RECEIVED SEVERAL EMAILS OKAY.
HE GOT PHONE CALLS AND WE AGREED TO LOOK AT IT ON MONDAY.
UM, AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT WAS, UH, ADJUSTED AND PUT IN AND JUST BEFORE IN THE AFTERNOON, PROBABLY LATE AFTERNOON, IT WAS, UH, UPLOADED BY JOEL CASEY, YOU KNOW, WE SENT IT TO HIM TO UPLOAD.
AND THOSE WERE THE TWO CHANGES.
BUT WHEN, UM, AND THEN IT WAS PRINTED OUT AND, UM, OKAY.
PRINTED OUT, WAIT, IT AND, AND THEN IT'S WITH THE, UH, IT WAS WITH THE, UH, PACKET LAST NIGHT.
IT WAS WITH THE PACKET LAST NIGHT.
BUT WE DIDN'T REALLY HAVE LIKE A HEADS UP.
WE SHOULD SWITCH THIS KIND OF, YOU KNOW, SWITCH OUT.
THE ONE ON AGENDA, THE ONE THE DOCUMENT, WHICH IS ON AGENDA QUICK.
I SENT IT THE DOCUMENT THAT'S ON AGENDA QUICK, WHICH IS THE OFFICIAL DOCUMENT FOR THE MEETING HAD THE OLD VERSION, BECAUSE THAT WAS FROM, UH, ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT DAYS AGO WHEN, WHEN HE ASKED ME TO MAKE THE CHANGE, I MESSAGED HIM AND COPIED THE BOARD AND SAID THAT, UM, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WE COULD LEGALLY CHANGE IT BECAUSE, UM, IT HAD ALREADY BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
AND I DISAGREE YOU WOULD CHANGE IT.
AND HE DISAGREED AND INSISTED THAT IT WAS CHANGED ANYWAYS.
RIGHT? SO, WELL, 'CAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WE NEEDED TO DO IT.
NO, BUT WHAT JOE IS SAYING IS THE PROPER WAY TO
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HAVE CHANGED IT WOULD BE A SLIP SHEET SO EVERYONE WOULD KNOW THAT IT WAS A CHANGE.THAT'S THE ONLY POINT I'M MAKING IS THAT YOU MADE IT LOOK LIKE THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL BUDGET AND IT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL BUDGET.
WELL, WELL, I COULD SAY IS THAT I CALLED RICH, HE TOLD, AND RICH ACTUALLY SAID, DO ME A FAVOR, SAID DON'T MAKE A BIG THING OUT OF IT.
WE'RE GONNA GET BOTH OF THESE THINGS, UH, INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE.
AND HE SAID, WHEN I SPOKE TO HIM ON SATURDAY, AND, AND, YOU KNOW, I BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SPEAK TO A DEPARTMENT HEAD AND THEY TELL ME, UH, TO RELY ON, UM, UM, ON THEIR WORD, I BELIEVE IT.
SO I, I BELIEVE VERY STRONGLY, UH, IN PEDESTRIAN SAFETY TO, I'M VERY PROUD OF ALL THE WORK WE'VE DONE, UH, ADDING ALL THE NEW SIDEWALKS AND THE, UH, THE CROSSWALK ENHANCEMENTS AND, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I REALLY BELIEVE IN.
THIS IS, THIS IS KIMBERLY'S EMAIL ON SATURDAY.
UM, SHE WROTE, SHE WROTE, LET'S SEE, THE BUDGET HAS ALREADY ROLLED TO PRELIMINARY SINCE TENTATIVE WAS FILED WITH THE CLERK'S OFFICE.
I CAN REVIEW IT WITH THE BOARD AND INCLUDE A SLIP SHEET, BUT IT WON'T BE INCLUDED FOR MONDAY.
WE CAN DISCUSS THIS AT THE NEXT BUDGET MEETING SCHEDULED IN DECEMBER.
SO SHE COULD, SHE SAID CLEARLY THAT SHE COULDN'T SET IT UP FOR MONDAY, BUT HE SAID NO.
AND PAUL SAID NO TO THE SLIP SHEETS, WHICH IS THE PROPER WAY.
I NEVER SAID NO TO, UH, TO, UM, BASICALLY ALL I WANT TO DO IS, MY CONCERN IS GETTING THE SIDEWALKS IN AND GETTING THE, UH, THE FOOD SCRAP, UM, CURBSIDE PICKUP, WHICH THE CONSERVATION ADVISORY COUNCIL HAS BEEN ADVOCATING FOR, UM, FOR, AND THEY'VE BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE IN SUSTAINING THE VALUE OF THOSE TWO THINGS.
SO, YOU KNOW WHAT, SO THE BOTTOM LINE IS NO, NOBODY, LET'S ASSUME THERE WAS A MISTAKE.
OKAY? LET'S ASSUME THERE WAS A MISTAKE.
LET'S ASSUME THAT THERE'S NO DAMAGE, BECAUSE BASICALLY WE HAVE TILL DECEMBER 20TH TO FIX ANY MISTAKES THAT WERE MADE.
UM, BECAUSE THE BOTTOM LINE IS IT'S A TOWN BOARD'S DECISION, WHAT TO INCLUDE IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET OR IN THE OPERATING BUDGET.
AND IF THE TOWN BOARD DECIDES THAT, UM, THAT, UM, THAT THEY WANT IT IN, YOU COULD PUT IT IN.
IF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU DON'T WANNA PUT IT IN, YOU COULD TAKE IT OUT.
SO, WELL, WE, I, I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ISSUE OF THAT.
UH, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE, WE ALL MAKE MISTAKES.
YOU KNOW, I, I WOULD BE, UM, LYING IF I WERE TO SAY THAT I NEVER MADE MISTAKES, BUT WHEN THERE'S A MISTAKE OF THIS, OF THIS NATURE, IT REALLY, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ADVISE THE REST OF THE BOARD AND THE PUBLIC THAT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT THERE IS A REVISION BEING MADE RATHER THAN IT SEEMINGLY LOOKING LIKE A SUBSTITUTE, A BAIT AND SWITCH KIND OF SUBSTITUTE WAS MADE.
AND MAYBE THAT WAS NOT YOUR INTENT, BUT THAT'S CERTAINLY WHAT IT COULD APPEAR TO BE LIKE.
AND WHETHER, AND, AND WE, WE ALL FEEL THAT SIDEWALKS AND FOOD SCRAP RECYCLING ARE GOOD THINGS.
SO IT, IT'S NOT A MATTER OF SAYING WE WANT IT IN OR WE DON'T WANT IT IN.
THAT'S NOT AT ALL WHAT ANYONE IS GETTING AT.
SO, SO IF WE, WE CAN MOVE ON, BUT LET'S JUST BE CLEAR THAT THE COMMUNICATION A, HAS TO BE BETTER.
B HAS TO NOT BE PUNISHING FOR ANY OF THE STAFF TO QUICKLY DO SOMETHING THAT CAN BE PROBLEMATIC.
THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE PRESSURED TO DO THAT.
WELL, LET ME JUST SAY SOMETHING.
SO THERE'S A WAY OF SOLVING THIS.
WE HAVE THE CAPITAL BUDGET THAT WAS UP ON AGENDA QUICK THAT THE PUBLIC LOOKED AT.
LET'S DO IT THE PROPER WAY AS KIMBERLY AND THE TOWN ATTORNEY SAYS, WE CAN CREATE A SLIP SHEET WITH THOSE TWO CHANGES IN IT, AND THAT WE CAN MAKE THAT THE SUBJECT OF THE CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING WITH THE ORIGINAL ONE PLUS THE SLIP SHEET.
AND THIS WAY EVERYBODY KNOWS MM-HMM
AND THAT'S THE WAY WE SHOULD DO IT FOR ALL CHANGES.
WELL, UM, WE DO ALSO HAVE TO CONSIDER THE TWO PROPOSALS THAT, UH, ONE WE RECEIVED YESTERDAY.
ONE WE RECEIVED TODAY FOR THE, UH, COMMUNITY CENTER WITHOUT WALLS AND ONE FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET.
AND WE CAN LOOK AT THOSE IN DETAIL IN OUR
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PROCESS.I BELIEVE THERE'S, I, I BELIEVE THE SUPERVISOR DID PUT MONEY IN THE BUDGET FOR THOSE.
UH, UH, THE COMMUNITY CENTER WITHOUT WALLS HAS 15,000.
WHERE IS THAT? I'M SORRY? WHERE IS THAT IN THE BUDGET? UH, KIMBERLY, UH, DO YOU KNOW WHAT PAGE? THE COMMUNITY CENTER WITHOUT WALLS, WAS IT, I THINK IT'S 71.
THE, UH, FARMER'S MARKET, UH, WAS NOT IN INCLUDED.
I THOUGHT YOU PUT $20,000 THAT'S IN THERE.
THAT'S IN REC PARKING FOR THAT.
NO, NOT 76 UNDER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
UM, BUT DIDN'T SHE ASK FOR MORE? WELL, GUESS WHAT? WE HAVEN'T RE REVIEWED ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, YET.
IT JUST, I JUST RECEIVED SOME, WE JUST RECEIVED SOMETHING TODAY.
SO, AND THE QUESTION IS WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S INVOLVED IN DOING THAT? DOES SHE HAVE TO BE A 5 0 1 C3? LIKE CLIFF WENT THROUGH? SHE IS ALREADY.
SHE IS, IS SHE? SHE DARE TO BE DIFFERENT.
UM, AND WHAT IS THE ACCOUNTING FOR THE, YOU KNOW, THE MONIES AND SO FORTH AND, UM, ARE WE GONNA DO THIS FOR ALL FARMERS MARKETS? WE HAVE ONE IN HARTSDALE, OR IS IT ONLY GOING TO BE FOR ONE? HOW DO YOU DIS UH, DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE TWO? UM, WELL, THE ONE IN HARTSDALE IS A PROFIT MAKING FARMER'S MARKET.
THIS IS NOT, AND THIS IS FOR, SO THAT MIGHT BE A WAY OF DISTINGUISHING.
BUT I, I JUST, WE JUST CAN'T THROW MONEY.
BUT THERE'S NOT CLARIFICATION EXACTLY.
BUT THERE IS MONEY PUT IN FOR THAT.
UH, WAS THAT INTENDED FOR CO YEAH, IT WAS FOR HER.
HER, THAT WAS FOR, THAT WAS DONE BECAUSE JOY HAD, UH, MADE YOU MADE THE REQUEST TO ME, UH, BEFORE OCTOBER 30TH.
THE, THE MONEY'S IN THERE FOR THE FARMER'S MARKET AND THE COMMUNITY CENTER WHERE THAT WALL IS ON PAGE 71, AS I SAYS.
THE QUESTION IS, IS THAT THE CORRECT PAGE FOR IT? WE COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT SOME POINT, RIGHT? YEAH.
ACTUALLY, UM, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, BOTH THE COMMUNITY CENTER WITHOUT WALLS, UM, AND UM, AND THE FARMER'S MARKET, IT SHOULD BE A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE EASIER FOR PEOPLE TO LOOK AT AND SAY, OH, WE'RE GIVING IT TO A FARMER'S MARKET.
BECAUSE MAYBE PEOPLE WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, THERE'S AN ELMSFORD FARMER'S MARKET, THERE'S AN ELMSFORD UH, FOOD, UH, PANTRY, THERE'S A DUFFS FERRY FOOD PANTRY.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MAY, YOU KNOW, SINCE THIS IS SOMETHING NEW THAT WE HAVEN'T DONE IN THE PAST, I THINK IT SHOULD BE SPECIF SPECIFIED.
UM, I MEAN, I ALSO THINK, YOU KNOW, PROBABLY, UH, IN THE 2027 BUDGET, UH, THE HEALTH CENTER, UM, HAS BEEN LAYING OFF A LOT OF PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THE CUTS IN FEDERAL FUNDING.
AND I, I HAVE A FEELING THAT THERE'S GONNA BE A MOVE BY THE HEALTH CENTER TO, UM, ASK FOR, UH, LOCAL GOVERNMENTS IN THE COUNTY TO, UM, TO HELP THEM, UM, CONTINUE TO DO THEIR OUTSTANDING WORK.
THEY PROVIDE AN IMPORTANT SERVICE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO SEE, UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTH CENTERS, UM, AT RISK OF BASICALLY GOING OUTTA BUSINESS.
SO I, I THINK THAT BOTH LOCAL AND THE COUNTY, UM, SHOULD UM, AT LEAST CONSIDER, UM, DOING WHAT WE CAN TO SAVE THE HEALTH CENTER.
BUT THAT'S NOT IN THIS BUDGET THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE IN THE FUTURE.
I ACTUALLY HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE INSURANCE FUND LINE, BECAUSE THAT'S A BIG, BIG DIFFERENCE FROM 26 TO 25 ON THE TOWN WIDE BUDGET.
WHAT PAGE? THIS IS LIKE THE SECOND PAGE.
IT'S THE FIRST, UH, YEAH, IT'S IN THE FIRST FEW PAGES.
BUT FOR PEOPLE ON, THERE'S NO, IN THE AUDIENCE, THERE'S NO PAGE NUMBER.
IT MAY BE INCORRECT, BUT I THOUGHT WAY, WAY BACK WHEN WE MIGHT HAVE HAD ROMAN NUMERALS FOR THESE FIRST FEW PAGES, JUST SO THAT THEY'D BE EASY TO REFERENCE.
SO YOU ARE ON THE FIRST PAGE TOWN WIDE, BUT IT AT A,
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OKAY, SO THERE'S THIS LIBRARY FUND, THEN IT SAYS INSURANCE FUND.UM, I, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE ROLL UP.
AND IT SOUNDS, IF YOU WANNA MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU.
I GOTTA PULL IT UP WHILE SHE'S PULLING THAT UP.
WHEN YOU, COULD YOU JUST MAYBE ASK THE ATTORNEY IF HE COULD ANSWER THE QUESTIONS FOR ME? UM, IF YOU HAVE LIKE, UM, A MEETING SUCH AS THIS AND LIKE YOU'RE AT THE SECTION FOR THE HEALTH CENTER, IF THERE IS A MANNER IN WHICH WE CAN ASK THAT THEY HOST WHEN THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THEIR MEETINGS.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE HEALTH CENTER.
I WAS A FORMER, UM, MEMBER OF THE, UM, GREENBURG HEALTH CENTER.
AND GREENBURG HEALTH CENTER IS THE ONLY ONE IN THE UNITED STATES WHEN THEY DID A NATIONAL SURVEY WHO ACCEPTED MONEY FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
WE CAME IN AT THE TOP 10 PERCENTILE, THE ONLY BLACK COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND WE ARE GETTING AWAY FROM THE THINGS AND THE PRINCIPLES THAT WE HAD BEEN DOING.
AND I WANTED TO KNOW, IS THIS THE CORRECT ASK? THAT'S A WORK, WHAT, YOU KNOW, CAN Y'ALL REFER AND SAY WHEN DO YOU HAVE YOUR MEETINGS AND ARE, OR IS THE PUBLIC PERMITTED TO ATTEND? THINGS LIKE THAT.
WE CAN, WE CAN ASK THAT ON YOUR BEHALF.
I WILL SAY THE AUDIENCE IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HEAR YOU BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A MICROPHONE.
NO, I DON'T WANT THE AUDIENCE TO HEAR.
BUT WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A WORK SESSION THAT WE HAVE TO FULFILL.
SO I COULD A I COULD FIND THAT OUT FOR YOU AFTER THE FACT.
SO KIMBERLY, YOU'RE WORKING ON LOOKING THAT UP? YEP.
I, AND I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE SAME PAGE ON THIS, THE RIGHT HAND COLUMN UNDER LICENSE, UH, LICENSES AND PERMITS THAT, UM, IT'S LIKE A HALF 50% DECREASE IN THE REVENUE.
AND I WAS WONDERING ABOUT THAT.
I THINK THAT'S THE BUILDING BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS, THE, THE, UM, I KNOW WE HAD INCREASED AND I BELIEVE WE HAD INCREASED AND I'M, THEY, THEY TOLD ME, UH, I THINK IT WAS LIKE MAYBE A 37, I WILL CHECK MY NOTES, BUT WE HAD A SEVEN, UH, A 30% INCREASE, UH, FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR WITH OUR PERMITS.
AND THAT'S JUST OUR LICENSE, OUR DOG LICENSES.
UM, SO THIS IS, THIS IS REPRESENTING A DECREASE.
SO THAT WOULD MEAN THAT IN OTHER LICENSES WE, WE TOOK A BIGGER HIT.
IT'S JUST GONNA TAKE ME A MINUTE 'CAUSE THERE'S MULTIPLE SPREADSHEETS THAT ROLL UP INTO THAT NUMBER.
DO WE WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE DEPARTMENT HEADS? WE, YEAH.
DO WE WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT THE DEPARTMENT HEAD SHOULD BE REVIEWING THEIR, THEIR BUDGETS AND YEAH.
ANYTHING THAT THEY SUBMITTED? NO, NOTHING NEW, BUT ANYTHING THAT THEY SUBMITTED THAT, UH, THEY FIND IS NOT IN THE BUDGET THAT THEY THINK IS IMPERATIVE TO BE IN THE BUDGET.
AND ALSO, UH, ANY OFFSETS, UM, THAT THEY MIGHT SEE TO ACCOMMODATE THAT.
UH, KIMBERLY, UM, MADE, YOU KNOW, MET WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS PRIOR TO THE SUBMISSION OF THE BUDGET.
UM, I MADE VERY MINOR, UH, CHANGES IN, UM, IN THE DOCUMENT THAT SHE SUBMITTED BECAUSE SHE, UM, UH, SHE DID, UH, THE MEETINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, ALL OF US MET WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS, UM, IN OCTOBER, I GUESS LATE SEPTEMBER, UH, OCTOBER.
AND THEN KIMBERLY WORKED WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS IN, UM, MAKING ADDITIONAL CUTS, UM, IN THE BUDGET.
SO ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS WERE AWARE OF THE CUTS.
AND, UM, THE CHANGES I MADE AFTER
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KIMBERLY, UM, YOU KNOW, PRESENTED ME WITH THE CUTS THAT SHE AND THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAD AGREED TO WERE VERY, VERY MINOR.YOU KNOW, IT WAS A THOUSAND DOLLARS HERE, UH, YOU KNOW, A FEW THOUSAND, YOU KNOW, THERE, BUT IT, IT WAS DID YOU SHARE THE, THOSE CUTS WITH THEM SO THAT THEY'RE TOTALLY UP TO DATE ON WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET? UM, WELL THEY, THEY, THEY HAVE THE WHOLE, UH, BUDGET.
YOU KNOW, THESE WERE MINOR, YOU KNOW, MINOR, MINOR CHANGES.
SO YOU DID NOT EITHER YOU, YOU EXPECT THAT THEY WILL DOUBLE CHECK THEMSELVES.
THEY HAVE TO CHECK TO SEE IN THE BUDGET.
YOU, YOU INCREASED THE EXPECTED REVENUE IN THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT BY ABOUT $500,000, RIGHT? YEAH.
DID YOU SHARE THAT WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT? BASED ON, I, I BASICALLY, UM, INCLUDED WHAT I THINK, UH, SHOULD BE IN, AND AGAIN, UH, THIS IS A BUDGET THAT THE, THE REVENUES BASED, LIKE LAST YEAR WHEN YOU INCREASED THE REVENUES, IT WAS BASED ON A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAD A WRITTEN CON CORRESPONDENCE.
IT, IT WASN'T SUBSTANTIATED PER SE.
A TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WASN'T OUT OR NOT, BUT IS THIS SOMEWHAT OF THE SAME THING? NO, I, I BASICALLY HAD, UH, I CONTACTED, UH, THE ATTORNEY FOR, UH, REGENERON BECAUSE THEY'RE, AS I DID LAST YEAR.
UM, AND UM, THEY GAVE ME AN ESTIMATE.
I SPOKE TO, UH, MR. WINEGARTEN, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST THE ATTORNEY, RIGHT? HIS ATTORNEY FOR REGENERON.
UM, UH, BEFORE I SUBMITTED THE BUDGET, AFTER I GOT AN EMAIL FROM HIM SAYING PUT IN, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PUT IN LIKE 3 MILLION.
UM, HE BASICALLY, THEN I SPOKE TO HIM, UM, A FEW DAYS BEFORE, UM, I SUBMITTED THE BUDGET AND I SAID, IS THIS DEFINITELY ACCURATE? AND HE SAID, UM, IT IS, YOU KNOW, THEY, HE SPOKE TO HIS CLIENT AND THEY, THEY FEEL THAT THE NUMBER THAT THEY GAVE ME IS, UM, IS ACCURATE.
AND UM, THEY ALSO INDICATED THAT, YOU KNOW, I I THINK EARLIER I CAN, THIS WAS NOT IN WRITING.
THIS WAS OVER ON, IT WASN'T WRITING.
IT WASN'T WRITING WELL, YOU JUST SAID YOU CONTACTED, SO I NO, BUT NO, I WANTED TO FOLLOW IT UP BECAUSE, UH, EARLIER IN THE FALL WHEN WE HAD THE BUDGET PRESENTATIONS, UM, UM, I BELIEVE THAT, UM, THE, UH, REGENERON HADN'T DONE ALL THE WORK THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GONNA DO BY THE END OF THE YEAR.
AND UM, YOU KNOW, MARK INDICATED THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, YOU KNOW, CHECKS WOULD BE, UH, THAT THE MONEY THAT THEY ANTICIPATED, YOU KNOW, WAS GONNA COME IN.
SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S A DROP OFF, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE EXPECTED A DROP OFF FROM PREVIOUS.
BUT IT'S, BUT BASED ON THE TENTATIVE AMOUNTS IT LOOKED OFF.
IN OTHER WORDS, JUST TO BOTTOM LINE, YES.
AM I CORRECT THAT YOU ADDED IN SOME MORE MONIES SO THAT AMELIORATES SOME OF THE DROP OFF, BUT THERE STILL IS A DROP OFF REPRESENTATIVE? YEAH, WELL I KNOW THEY'RE GONNA GET SOME MONEY BECAUSE I HAVE, UH, MOLD IN MY KITCHEN, SO I HAVE TO APPLY FOR A BUILDING PERMIT THERE.
I THOUGHT THIS WAS INTERESTING THAT THERE'S A PROJECTED INCREASE IN FEDERAL AID BY $10,000.
I WOULD THINK WE WOULD NOT GET ANY KIND OF INCREASE THERE.
IS THAT LIKELY? I DON'T THINK SO.
BUT IS THAT BASED ON WELL, IF IT'S MONEY THAT'S BEEN COMMITTED ALREADY, THEN YEAH.
BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WON'T, THEY WON'T BE A RECEIPT.
NO, IT'S GONE AFTER MONEY THAT'S ALREADY COMMITTED.
THEY CAN PULL, THEY'VE STOPPED RESEARCH PROJECTS EVEN THOUGH THEY WERE HALFWAY THROUGH AND THEY JUST STOPPED IT.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN THERE WON'T BE A SCIS.
WELL, THERE WERE PLENTY OF RESCISSIONS.
LUCKILY IT'S ONLY $10,000 IF NOT MORE.
AND WE HAD A DEPARTMENT HEAD TODAY, FRANCIS AND I WERE AT THE, THE DEPARTMENT HEAD MEETING.
AND, UM, NONE OF THE DEPARTMENT HEADS HAD EXPRESSED, YOU KNOW, ANY MAJOR CONCERNS ABOUT THE BUDGET.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE MET AND YOU KNOW, IF IF IN THE PAST WHEN WE DELETED THINGS FROM THE BUDGET, THEY WOULD ALWAYS, UH, SHOW UP AT THESE MEETINGS AND ASK THAT IT BE RESTORED.
SO WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT, SHOULD I SAY? YEAH, NO, I, SHE KNOWS THAT ALREADY.
UM, JUST AS A NOTE, UM, FOR PEOPLE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, WE HAVE AN, UH, IT'S ENTITLED TOWN JUSTICE AS IT REALLY SHOULD BE ENTITLED TOWN COURT.
'CAUSE IT'S THE FULL BUDGET FOR, IT'S THE, FOR THE COURT, NOT JUST FOR THE SALARIES OF THE JUDGE.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT OF THE JUDGES PAGE TWO.
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I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S TRUE IN TERMS OF A LOT OF THE, THE TITLES LIKE TOWN COUNCIL, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT COULD BE SALARIES WHEN IT DOES INCLUDE OFFICE EQUIPMENT, POSTAGE OFFICE SUPPLIES.NO, BUT THE SAME, NO, IT'S NOT THE SAME AS THE TOWN COUNCIL.
THIS IS OUR BUDGET FOR THE TOWN COUNCIL.
JUST LIKE THAT'S THE BUDGET FOR THE TOWN COURT, NOT FOR THE JUSTICES.
I, I THINK, UH, IT, IT, THE FOOTNOTE ON PAGE FOUR, SUPERVISORS, CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF THE TOWN AND IS ELECTED TO A TWO YEAR TERM.
THAT'S ALWAYS BEEN CORRECT, BUT I THINK WE NEED TO PUT IN THE NUANCE THERE THAT, UM, THE CURRENT TERM IS ONE YEAR DUE TO THE LEGISLATION.
WE CAN NOTE THE LEGISLATION THAT, AND THE SAME THING FOR TOWN COUNCIL.
THE COUNCIL NORMALLY A FOUR YEAR TERM, BUT FOR ONE TERM IT'LL BE THREE YEAR TERM.
WE CAN WORK ON THE, THE WORDING, BUT THE RECEIVER OF TAXES ALSO.
RECEIVER OF TAXES FALL UNDER THAT.
IT ALL THE TOWN OFFICES AS WELL AS TOM CLERK
WELL, I GET IT, DIDN'T YOU? YES.
YEAH,
AND THE OTHER ONE WAS, WHICH ONE? JOY? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I GET THEM BOTH TRANSFERRED TO.
YEAH, SO THAT MONEY'S TRANSFERRING I BELIEVE TO RISK RETENTION, BUT I, I HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE BASIS, AND I DID NOTICE, I LOOKED AT MULTIPLE YEARS.
IT GOES UP AND DOWN BETWEEN, UM, ANYWHERE FROM 500,000 UP TO 3 MILLION.
WHY IS THAT? DO YOU KNOW? I MEAN, WELL, I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVE TO GET INTO THE DETAIL AND SEE WHAT THE BACKUP IS FOR IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST LOOKING AT LIKE A SHEET THAT'S BRINGING DATA FROM EACH YEAR WITHOUT GIVING ME THE GL DETAIL.
AND WHAT AND WHAT WAS THE OTHER ACCOUNT? I'M SORRY? THE LICENSES AND PERMITS, BUT I THINK WE LICENSING AND PERMITS.
AND TO CLARIFY ALSO, UM, IF PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING IT, BECAUSE THIS HAD COME UP A WHILE BACK, THAT, AND IT, IT SPELLS OUT ACTUAL AS OF 10 28, 20 25.
SO THAT DOES NOT, IT, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE FULL BUDGET AMOUNT HAS BEEN EXPENDED RIGHT.
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY ON PAGE 14, WESTERN COUNTY ALLEGED, UH, ELECTION BACK, YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY CHARGE US A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS, YOU KNOW, FOR THE ELECTIONS, BUT APPROXIMATELY 20,000 OF THAT WILL BE REIMBURSED BY WESTCHESTER COUNTY.
WHY DON'T THEY JUST TAKE IT OFF THE BILL? GOOD QUESTION.
I GUESS WE HAVE TO ASK THEIR ACCOUNTING ABOUT THAT.
AND, UH, THEY, THEY CALLED ME, THEY JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS NOT FOR ALL OF THE, UH, ELECTIONS THAT HAPPENED THIS YEAR.
SO THE SPECIAL, THE, UM, PRIMARY AND THE, AND I, THEY WERE LIKE, AND THE, UH, REGULAR, THE GENERAL.
SO, UH, I DID NOT SEE, EVEN THOUGH I KNOW THIS IS A QUESTION, UM, BECAUSE IT, LIKE YOU SAID, WHY DON'T THEY JUST TAKE THAT OFF OF IT? UM, SO YOU KNOW
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WHAT, I CAN FIND THAT OUTAND THAT INCLUDES ALL OF STAFF, UM, INCLUDES MAINTENANCE, INCLUDES, UH, POLICE AND, UH, ANY SECURITY.
WHAT TIME IS OUR FIRST? SIX 30.
IS JUNETEENTH IN THE BUDGET? I LOOKED, I I DON'T SEE A JUNETEENTH CELEBRATION IN THE BUDGET.
IF NOT, THAT MIGHT HAVE TO BE DONE BY SLIP SHEET AS WELL.
HOW MUCH WAS THE LAST YEAR? I DON'T RECALL.
DIDN'T YOU? I THINK WE GOT A GRANT TOO.
WE HAVE A SUNDRY ACCOUNT IN THE COUNCIL.
WASN'T THAT WHERE WE WE GOT THE MONEY? NO, IT'S 8,000 WAS FOR THE EMPLOYEE EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION.
EVERYBODY THOUGHT IT WAS OUR SLUSH FUND, WHICH WE HAVEN'T USED IT AT ALL.
SO I SHOULD, INSTEAD OF SAYING SUNDRE FOR THAT, WOULDN'T IT MAKE SENSE? EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION? BECAUSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE THING IS IF YOU SAY SUNDRE, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S A SLUSH FUND.
IF YOU SAY PLAY APPRECIATION OR EVENTS, OR SAY EVENTS, IF, IF YOU WANNA MAKE IT LEGITIMATE TERM, JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S JUST THAT PEOPLE THAT LIKE TO CRITICIZE THE BOARD, UH, TURNED IT INTO, YOU KNOW, THE, A SLUSH FUND OF 12.
I I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT WILL MAKE THE BOARD LOOK BETTER IF IT SAYS EMPLOYEE APPRECIATION.
NOBODY, NOBODY'S GONNA CRITICIZE THAT OR AS, AS JOY JUST MAKE IT EVENTS.
A LITTLE BIT OF SPECIAL EVENTS, FLEXIBILITY, SPECIAL EVENTS.
SO ARE WE GONNA PUT THAT? WELL, EVERY, EVERY DEPARTMENT INCLUDING PAUL HAS SUNDRY, SO THERE SHOULD BE SOME NOMINAL AMOUNT.
UM, SOME NOMINAL AMOUNT, I DON'T THINK.
SO FOR THE DESIGN DESIGNATION, JUST KEEP THE DESIGNATION.
SO THEN YOU JUST USE THE UH, YEAH, I CONTINGENCIES WHENEVER YOU NEED SOMETHING.
WHAT? NO, I CAN WE PUT THAT THERE'S NOTHING IN THE DESCRIPTION.
WHAT'S THAT? JUST PUT IT IN THE DESCRIPTION THAT IT'S FOR EVENTS IN THAT, FOR INSTANCE, SO RIGHT, BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE SIGN.
ARE WE GONNA PUT THE 3000 FOR THE JUNETEENTH INTO THAT COUNSEL LINE? NO, WE'LL LET THE CONTROLLER FIGURE THAT OUT.
WHAT WAS THAT? WE'LL LET THE CONTROLLER FIGURE OUT THE APPROPRIATE PLACE TO PUT IT.
YOU JUST, YOU, YOU JUST DO IT LIKE YOU DO AT POST.
UM, THE OTHER THINGS AND GET IT FROM, UH, GENERAL, GENERAL SERVICES FOR, UM, LOCATION, FOR THE, FOR THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE, IT DOESN'T LIKE TO PUT SUNDRY MAKES LOOK, BUT HE GETS IT FROM GENERAL SERVICES FOR, UH, THE JUNE JUNETEENTH.
WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT, UH, PERHAPS SHOULD BE IN, UM, THE COMMUNITY CENTER'S? UM, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU KNOW, IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER'S BUDGET BECAUSE NO, NO, I'M JUST ASKING WHAT, IT'S NOT A COMMUNITY CENTER FUNCTION.
THAT'S FINE'S ONLY A TOWN SPONSOR.
UM, ACCORDING TO OXFORD DICTIONARY, SUNDRY SAYS OF VARIOUS ITEMS, NOT IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO BE MENTIONED INDIVIDUALLY.
SO THE, ON THE, UM, INSURANCE, THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS 500,000 LAST YEAR, BUT ACTUALLY IT ENDED UP BEING REVISED DURING THE YEAR TO 958.
SO IT'S, UM, CLOSE IN COMPARISON TO WHAT WE BUDGETED THIS YEAR.
YEAH, THAT GETS TO MY POINT IS IT'S ALWAYS HELPFUL TO KNOW HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT THIS YEAR ON A BUDGETED AMOUNT, BUDGET AMOUNTS OR BUDGETS.
ALRIGHT, WE NEED TO GET INTO AFTER THAT YOU HAVE A MOTION, PAUL? YEAH.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONNEL MATTERS, UH, LEADING TO THE APPOINTMENT OF A PARTICULAR CORPORATION TO DISCUSS COLLECTIVE NEGOTIATIONS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE REGARDING PENDING PROPOSED AND CURRENT LITIGATION.