[00:00:04]
[Antenna Review Board on December 12, 2025.]
IS DECEMBER 12TH, 2025.THIS IS THE ANTENNA REVIEW BOARD CONVENING AT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG TOWN HALL.
I'M GONNA TAKE ATTENDANCE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A QUORUM PRESENT.
CATHERINE LETTER OF SKET HERE.
SO, AND DONNA SHAMAN IS NOT HERE TODAY.
WE'LL GO HAVE A QUORUM BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO PEOPLE OF THE THREE WHO ARE ON THE BOARD.
FRANCIS IS OUR LIAISON FROM THE TOWN BOARD.
UM, AND WE HA WE HAVE NOBODY APPARENTLY HERE FROM THE APPLICANT.
THAT IS UNFORTUNATE BECAUSE IT'S MUCH BETTER WHEN THEY ACTUALLY CAN ASK QUESTIONS AND CLARIFY ANYTHING THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND.
BUT THEY WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK TO THIS RECORDING AND SEE WHAT WE SAY.
SO GETTING STARTED, THERE WERE THREE APPLICATIONS SUBMITTED, DOCUMENTS THAT CONSTITUTED APPLICATIONS.
UM, THESE ARE FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY.
THE FIRST ONE IS 55 JACKSON AVENUE.
IT WAS SUBMITTED ON THE THIRD OF OF DECEMBER.
TODAY IS THE 12TH OF DECEMBER.
UM, A WHERE AS THEY ANSWERED THE QUESTION THAT WAS RAISED THAT THE LAST TIME THEY SUBMITTED FOR THREE OTHER SITES ABOUT THE NEED FOR AN ENGINEER STAMP.
THEY EXPLAINED THAT THE ENGINEER FOR RAY CAP, UM, AND THEY GIVE THE NAMES OR SENIOR MECHANICAL ENGINEER AND EXECUTIVE ENGINEERING MANAGER, THEY DO NOT PROVIDE ANY OF THE QUESTION READS, NAMES, ADDRESSES, AND QUALIFICATIONS OF PERSONS PREPARING THE REPORT AND HIS OR HER OR THEIR SIGNATURES.
THE FIRST TWO ARE ENGINEERS WITH PROFESSIONAL STAMPS.
THE, UM, SECOND TWO NAMES, THE THIRD AND FOURTH NAMES.
ONE IS A SENIOR MECHANICAL ENGINEER AND ONE IS AN ENGINEER MANAGER, ENGINEERING MANAGER.
THEY SAY THAT THERE IS NO STAMP PROVIDED FOR AN, UM, A SENIOR MECHANICAL ENGINEER.
I ACTUALLY WENT ONLINE TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF INFORMATION IS PROVIDED.
WHAT DO YOU GET AFTER YOU DO THIS STUDY AND YOU GET A LICENSE NUMBER.
SO IF THEY DON'T HAVE A STAMP, THEY CAN PROVIDE THE LICENSE NUMBER.
WE DO NEED QUALIFICATIONS, JUST LIKE IT SAYS IN THE QUESTION.
AND THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED QUALIFICATIONS FOR EITHER.
UM, DENNIS, I CANNOT WITH THE SENIOR MECHANICAL ENGINEER OR FOR ME, THE ENGINEERING MANAGER.
AND WE NEED BOTH LICENSE AND OR CRED AND CRED LICENSE NUMBER FOR THE SENIOR MECHANICAL ENGINEER AND CREDENTIALS FOR THE ENGINEERING MANAGER.
SO THAT IS INCOMPLETE ON THE NEXT ONE.
ON B, ITS NAMES, ADDRESSES, AND LANDLINE INSIDE YOUR PHONE.
NUMBERS OF THE PROPERTY OWNER, OPERATOR AND APPLICANT, THEY PROVIDE, UM, FOR THE PROPERTY OWNER, POLL OWNER AND OPERATOR, BUT THEY DO NOT PROVIDE AN APPLICANT.
THEY ALSO DO NOT PROVIDE A PERSON.
THEY PROVIDE AN ENTITY, VERIZON, AND THEY GIVE TWO NUMBERS.
GENERIC NU THEY GIVE ONE NUMBER.
UM, THE PURPOSE OF THIS IS NOT SIMPLY TO FILL OUT A FORM, IT'S TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE A NUMBER THAT SOMEONE CAN BE CONTACTED AT.
AND SINCE WE HAVE NO PERSON AND NO CONTACT NUMBER FOR A PERSON, THIS IS INCOMPLETE IN C, THE PROPOSED POSTAL ADDRESS AND STREET BLOCK AND LOT OF THE PARCEL NUMBER OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, THIS IS THE PROPOSED FACILITY IS LOCATED ON THE TOWN'S RIGHT OF WAY AND NOT ASSIGNED A SHEEP BLOCK.
AND LOT NUMBER, THE NEAREST REFERENCE, THE NEAREST ADDRESS FOR REFERENCE, FOR REFERENCE IS 55 JACKSON AVENUE AND THEN THEY CALL IT GREENBURG, NEW YORK.
AND UM, AND I SHOULD BE WRITING THESE IN AS WE GO.
TO MY KNOWLEDGE, ONLY ONE SECTION OF THIS TOWN AND THAT'S THE TOWN HALL HAS ADOPTED GREENBERG AS ITS, AND ALLOWED TO USE IS ALLOWED TO USE.
SO THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO USE THIS AND THAT WOULD NEVER GET TO ANYBODY IF IT WAS MAILED.
UM, LET ME GO BACK AND PUT IN AND THE FIRST ONE SECOND.
[00:05:14]
SOMEBODY'S HAVING A GOOD TIME.SO FOR DGIS IN COORDINATES IS REQUESTED AND IT IS PROVIDED SO THAT D IS COMPLETE, E IS ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH THE PROPERTY IS SITUATED.
THEY PROVIDE THE ZONING DISTRICT OF R 20.
UM, IF THE, IF THE F IF THE INSTALLATION IS PURSUANT TO A LEASE AGREEMENT, CONFIRMATION FROM THE LESSOR THAT THE LEASE E IS AUTHORIZED TO UTILIZE THE PROPERTY, UM, THAT IS ALSO COMPLETE.
THEY ACTUALLY, THEY HAVE A COMPLETE, THEY'VE LAID IT OUT STEP BY STEP.
UM, AND IF YOU GO TO 12, YOU'LL SEE THAT THEY HAVE A FORMAT THAT THEY DON'T USE THROUGH IN THE OTHER APPLICATIONS NECESSARILY, BUT SHOULD, AND THIS IS WHAT WE ACCEPTED IN THE PAST WHERE THEY HAVE IT HIGHLIGHTED AS ONE OF MANY AND THEY PROVIDE THE LATITUDE, LONGITUDE, AND THE CROWN ID AND THE T-MOBILE NODE, CROWN NODE AND STREET ADDRESS ALL IN IT, WHICH ALLOWS US TO KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT THE, THIS IS
SO F IS COMPLETE G WE'VE HAD THIS BEFORE WHERE IT WAS NOT CLEAR AND I DON'T, I'M, I'M, AGAIN, IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT SOMEBODY IS NOT HERE BECAUSE WE'VE HAD AN APPLICATION THAT HAD A NEW POLL BEING ADDED AND THAT WASN'T IDENTIFIED IN THEIR ANSWER.
BUT IS NOW HAS, HAS NOW BECOME A REGULAR QUESTION.
SO ALTHOUGH THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION OF A DESCRIPTION OF ALL WORK NECESSARY TO COMPLETE, UM, INCLUDING CONSTRUCTION AND INSTALL THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION INCLUDE ANY NECESSARY EXCAVATION IS A COMPREHENSIVE ANSWER.
IT DOESN'T TELL US IF THERE'S A NEW POLL OR NOT.
SO I'M GOING TO WRITE IF THIS IS ACCEPTABLE TO BOTH OF YOU, THAT I'M GOING TO WRITE COMPLETE, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO WRITE.
UM, I'M GOING TO WRITE AS A QUALIFIER THAT IF A NEW POLL IS REQUIRED, IT IS NOT COMPLETE.
SO IT'S CONDITIONAL, COMPLETE ON H IT SAYS PROVIDE A COPY OF THE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION ISSUED BY THE TOWN OF GREENBURG FOR THE SUPPORT STRUCTURE OF THE EXISTING ANTENNAS FOR UTILITY POLE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
PROVIDE THE POLL OWNER'S NUMBER AND ADDRESS.
UM, WELL AS WELL AS IDENTIFICATION NUMBER OF FOR THE POLE, THE THEY WRITE THE PROPOSED FACILITY DO NOT RECEIVE A BUILDING PERMIT OR A SUBSEQUENT CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION.
I DID GO AND LOOK AT, UM, EXHIBIT SEVEN.
I THINK IT'S ALSO IN THIS ONE WHERE IT ADDS ON THE BOTTOM A CONSULTATION PLACE CALLED ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT OF UM, FOR AN INSPECTION.
WERE YOU ABLE TO FIND OUT WHETHER THERE WERE INSPECTIONS COMPLETED ON THESE? I DON'T, NO, I WASN'T AVAILABLE.
I WASN'T ABLE TO DO THAT TODAY.
[00:10:01]
OKAY.SO WE FAR AS THE STREET OPENING PERMIT, I, NO, I DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOU TURN TO PAGE SEVEN.
AND WHAT EXHIBIT? EXHIBIT SEVEN.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT THIS AND WHAT IS CURIOUS ABOUT THIS? I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE CORRECT PERMIT BECAUSE THIS SAYS OPENING STREET NAME 1 79 JACKSON AVENUE HASTINGS ON HUDSON.
AND THE ADDRESS THEY'VE GIVEN US IS 55.
I'M NOT SURE THAT THIS IS THE CORRECT PERMIT.
1 71, 1 79 IS WHAT'S ON THE INSURANCE AS WELL.
WELL, WHAT THEY HAVE IDENTIFIED THIS IS, IS 55 JACKSON I LOOKING AT THE INSURANCE AND THEY HAVE SAID THAT THE NEAREST ADDRESS FOR REFERENCE IS 55 JACKSON AVENUE.
SO I THINK THAT THEY NEED TO RECONCILE WHETHER WHAT THE ADDRESS IS.
YEAH, 1 79 IS WHAT'S ON THE INSURANCE.
I WILL WRITE IT HERE AND THEN WE'LL WRITE IT AGAIN AT THE INSURANCE AND WE'LL IN BOTH OF THEM.
THAT THAT'S NOT THE INSURANCE FOR THE WHOLE, THE NEW SITE IN THE I ALSO NOTEWORTHY IS THAT THE, UM, LATITUDE AND LONGITUDE ARE PROVIDED FOR 55 AND THE SITE IDENTIFICATIONS PROVIDED FOR 55.
UM, THE NEXT ONE WAS, THE NEXT ONE IS IF THE WORD, OKAY, I'M NOT SURE THE WORD.
THE NEXT ONE IS, I'M SORRY, UM, I, WHICH IT SAYS IF THE WIRELESS FACILITY BEING MODIFIED WILL PROVIDE SERVICE TO ANOTHER WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER.
UM, ASSIGNED AGREEMENT ON BOTH.
AND, AND THE ANSWER SAYS THE PROPOSED FACILITY IS UPGRADE AND THE T-MOBILE IS THE ONLY TENANT AT THIS SITE.
UM, J IS ALSO IN, IN MY OPINION, COMPLETE.
I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY GUIDE WIRES.
WE'RE NOT, WHICH FOR ME IT'LL BE MENTIONED IN ANOTHER APPLICATION, WHICH THEY'RE NOT ON THE DRAWINGS THAT WE HAVE THE APPLICATION.
BUT I DIDN'T SEE ANY GUIDE OR ANCHORS MENTIONED HERE IT ON HERE.
IT'S THE MAKE MODEL AND MANUFACTURE THE ANTENNAS.
[00:15:03]
L IS COMPLETE, M IS COMPLETE, N IS NOT COMPLETE.UM, ON SO MANY LEVELS IT'S NOT COMPLETE.
FIRST OF ALL, THE WAY WHAT THEY ARE SUBMITTING IS GENERIC.
IT IS NOT SITE SPECIFIC AND IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT THIS MUST BE SITE SPECIFIC.
IF ONE, THIS IS TRUE FOR ALL OF THEIR APPLICATIONS, THEY GIVE THE HEIGHT THE CENTER LINE OF THE ANTENNA TO BE 33 FEET.
IT'S DIFFERENT AT DIFFERENT ONES.
UM, ON THIS ONE EVEN IT'S EVEN WORSE BECAUSE I SEE ON THEY DON'T PAGE NUMBER THESE, BUT ON THE PAGE IT SAYS THE AMEN TABLE, IT SAYS EXPOSURE AT GROUND LEVEL AT 4.5, UM, 5%.
AND THEN IN THE HIGHLIGHTED AREA IT SAYS 3.3 33%.
THEY DON'T EVEN RECONCILE THAT.
BUT THIS IS GENERIC AND OUR, SINCE 1996, WE HAVE REQUIRED IT TO BE SITE SPECIFIC FOR ANY FORM OF ANTENNA.
SO THESE ARE GOING TO BE TURNED BACK EACH TIME UNTIL THEY BECOME SITE SPECIFIC.
HOW DO THEY MAKE THEM SITE SPECIFIC? THEY DO THE VERY MINIMUM OF GETTING THE ACTUAL HEIGHT OF THE ANTENNA AND THE CENTER LINE TO BE, TO MATCH WHAT'S IN THE, WHAT'S IN THE REPORT AND THE DATA ASSOCIATED WITH THAT HEIGHT.
EACH ONE OF THEM SAYS 10 FEET THE HEIGHT TO, TO THE WAY THEY'VE DONE THIS, IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW HIGH THE, THE ANTENNA IS PLACED, WHETHER IT'S 47 FEET OR 33 AT 10 FEET, THEY HAVE EACH ONE BEING MAXIMUM.
NOW I I, MY HOUSE I GOT, THERE'S STILL NO VIDEO ON THE APPLICANT.
GOOD BECAUSE THIS IS, THIS IS MAKING THIS PROCESS MUCH MORE, MUCH MORE LENGTHY THAN IT NEEDS TO BE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ATTENDING.
I REALLY HAD TROUBLE WITH NUMBER THREE OF THE NEAR SECTION BECAUSE A MONITORING PLAN, THE APPLICANT'S EQUIPMENT THAT FOUND WILL BE PROVIDED ANNUALLY.
I, WE NEED THEIR ANSWER TO READ THAT.
IT SAYS CROWN WILL MONITOR THE SITE EACH YEAR BY HOLDING AN RF READING AT THE SITE.
IT, IT NEEDS TO READ THAT IT'S GOING TO BE SITE SPECIFIC BECAUSE EVERYTHING HAS DOCUMENTED THAT THEY DON'T DO THAT.
O THIS IS, THIS IS THEIR LANGUAGE.
IT'S VERY DIFFERENT THAN ANY LANGUAGE WE'VE EVER HAD BEFORE.
T-MOBILE HAS AN AFFIRMATIVE OBLIGATION TO CORRECT THE INTERFERENCE.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WILL CORRECT IT SAYS THEY HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO DO IT, BUT IT DOESN'T SAY THEY WILL DO IT.
[00:20:01]
MR. SHEEN.THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS AN ISSUE.
WE COULD HAVE THEM JUST INSERT A NEW PAGE.
T-MOBILE WILL CORRECT WILL IN THE UNLIKELY EVENT OF THE
P ACTUALLY THAT P WAS OKAY, UM, IT'S THE NOISE.
CAN YOU LOOK AT PAGE FOUR OF EXHIBIT FIVE? PAGE FOUR OF 33.
IT'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE IT RAISES THE ISSUE OF THE FANS BECAUSE THEY ONLY HAVE ONE SITE IN HERE.
UM, ONE PROVIDER IN HERE, THIS MAY WORK THEIR ANSWER IT LOOKS LIKE THEY DID IT IN THE FACTORY.
SO, AND IT ACTUALLY SOUNDS LIKE UNLIKE SOME SITES WE'VE HAD WHERE THERE IS NO GENERATOR OR WHATEVER, THESE ACTUALLY SOUND LIKE THEY MAKE NOISE.
SO THEY'RE VERY CLOSE TO HOMES.
IT'S, THEY DID THEIR NOISE ASSESSMENT IN THEIR NEW JERSEY, UH, FACILITY OF THAT PARTICULAR, OKAY, SO WHAT SHOULD I WRITE? IT NEEDS TO BE SITE SPECIFIC.
I WROTE THESE NEED TO BE SITE SPECIFIC.
THESE ARE BEING DONE IN A FACTORY IN NEW JERSEY.
UM, TOTAL COMBINED NOISE LOAD.
SO THEY'RE DOING IT IN A FACTORY IN NEW JERSEY, BUT THEN IT SAYS THE DETAILED RESULTS FROM THE NOISE MEASUREMENTS ARE SHOWN IN APPENDIX C.
THIS NOISE LEVEL MEASUREMENT REPRESENTS THE AMBIENT NOISE CONDITIONS PRIOR TO AND DURING THE WORST CASE SCENARIOS.
THE AMBIENT NOISE MEASUREMENT IS COMPRISED OF THE EXISTING SITE, LOCAL ENVIRONMENT, ROAD TRAFFIC ON CELLAR STREET AND AIR TRAFFIC ON WHAT STREET? CELLAR STREET.
BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT EVEN THE RIGHT STREET.
WELL I DON'T EVEN THINK THEY MEAN IT TO BE A STREET CAM.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY REFER TO AS A CELLAR OF STREET, UH, AND AIR TRAFFIC OVERHEAD BASED ON THE NOISE MEASUREMENT PERFORMED.
THE AVERAGE NOISE LEVEL DURING THE TIME WITHOUT THE CABINET OPERATION WAS 53.8.
THAT WOULD SOMEWHAT INDICATE THAT IT WAS ACTUALLY MEASURED.
BUT NOWHERE HERE DOES IT HAVE THE ADDRESS.
AND AS WE KNOW, WE'RE HAVING AN ISSUE WITH THE ADDRESS.
THE FACTORY IS LOCATED ON CELLAR STREET.
SO THEY'RE ACTUALLY TAKING AMBIENT NOISE AT THE LOC.
WELL IT'S CELLAR STREET, BUT I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY WHAT THEY MEAN.
SO THE FACTORY WHERE THEY DID THE MEASUREMENT OF THE SHROUD
[00:25:01]
IS ON CELLAR STREET AND THEN THEY WENT OUTSIDE APPARENTLY ON CELL STREET AND MEASURED THE ROAD TRAFFIC THERE AND THE AIR TRAFFIC OVERHEAD AND THE LOCAL ENVIRONMENT AND ARE NOW USING THAT WITH THE GENERIC FOR THE ROAD TRAFFIC, OVERHEAD AIR TRAFFIC.ESPECIALLY GIVEN THIS IS A RESIDENTIAL AREA.
SO I WROTE, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE BEING DONE IN A FACTORY.
THEY, I'M SORRY THEY ARE IN AND IN THE ACIDITY IN A FACTORY IN NEW JERSEY.
THEY'RE TAKING AMBIENT NOISE, ET CETERA FROM THE STREET WHERE THE FACTORY IS LOCATED AND IT STARTS WITH THE, THESE NEED THAT NEED TO BE SITE SPECIFIC.
I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU COULD READ THIS ANY OTHER WAY.
RIGHT? THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THEY DON'T UPPERCASE THE S IN SELLERS.
THIS WAS DONE IN FEBRUARY, 2025.
THE DATE OF ISSUANCE OF THIS REPORT IS FEBRUARY 26TH, 2024.
AND YET THE REPORT IS DATED FEBRUARY 26TH, 2025.
THIS IS WHY IT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE THEM HERE.
THE DATE OF THE REPORT AND THE DATE OF THERE WERE TWO DATE OF ISSUANCE AND THE DATE OF THE REPORT THERE ARE DIFFERENT.
NOT THE NEATEST THING IN MIDDLE.
WHEN IS IT EVER? HMM? WHEN IS IT EVER
OKAY, SO THEN WE HA SO THEN THAT'S INCOMPLETE.
PROPOSED SCHEDULE FOR INSTALLATION AND COMPLETION OF THE MODIFICATION, UM, PROPOSED SHOULD THE APPLICANT BE APPROVED, IT DATES THAT THE EQUIPMENT AT THIS LOCATION BY JUNE 9TH, 2025.
SO IT FORECASTS THE INSTALLATION FOR THAT.
THIS IS AT THE VERY LEAST SLOPPY.
THIS IS THE SAME THING WITH THE PRECISION.
IT SAYS ON THE NEXT ONE IT SAYS THE TOWN OF CROWN CASTLE SHROUD IS 14, NOT EIGHT, IT'S 14 FEET, EIGHT INCHES.
SO IN FRONT GO TWO, THEIR PAGE TOP OF THE SHROUD IS 14 FEET, NINE INCHES.
[00:30:01]
WHY DON'T YOU GIVE THE, THE MAP NUMBER ARE YOU REFERRING TO UM, WE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU'RE DOING FOUR OF EIGHT.MM-HMM
AND HERE IT SAYS EIGHT INCHES.
AND YOU ALL KNOW THAT IF YOU ATTACK A LITTLE BIT WHEN YOU'RE GOING DOWN THE PARKWAY, IT SURE MATTERS.
IF YOU'RE IN A TRUCK, THE HEIGHT OF YOUR TRUCK MATTERS.
THE INTRICITY OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, IT'S WRONG.
UH, IT'S ACCURACY MEANS HOW CLOSE YOU ARE TO THE REAL VALUE ACCURACY MEANS.
BUT ACCURACY COULD ALSO BE, IT IS ACTUALLY BOTH OF THEM TOGETHER BECAUSE ACCURACY COULD SAY 14 PLUS FEET.
PRECISION MEANS MEASURING SOMETHING.
I'M SORRY YOU'RE HERE WITH BOTH OF US.
ACCURATE MEANS SHE HIT THE BULLSEYE BECAUSE THAT'S THE REAL THING SHOOTING FOR, OKAY, I TEACH THIS STUFF
I MEAN RIGHT NOW WAIT TILL AFTER WE
I'M GONNA PAY FOR THIS
I THINK THIS IS CATHERINE AND I'S 30TH YEAR TOGETHER.
30 YEARS LANCE AND I WAS ONLY 10 AT THE TIME.
RIGHT PLAN ILLUSTRATING THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION.
AND THIS ONE WE HAVE THE SAME PROBLEMS WE HAD IN THE LAST BATCH THAT THEY SUBMITTED.
SO STARTING WITH THE FIRST LINE, APPROXIMATE LOCATION, SIZE, ELEVATION AND HEIGHT OF ALL PROPOSED EXISTING ANTENNAS IN ALL APARTMENT STRUCTURES.
IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THE DIMENS CHANGES, YOU HAVE TO FIX JUST A, I'M SORRY, I HAVE TO FIX, SO JUST A MOMENT.
THE ELIGIBLE SUPPORT STRUCTURE AS A RESULT OF AND THE PROPOSED MODIFICATION, THE PLAN SHALL INCLUDE A DESCRIPTION OF THE ATTENDANCE AND ALL RELATED FIXTURES STRUCTURES PERTINENT AS APPARATUS, INCLUDING UM, HEIGHT ABOVE UNDISTURBED GRADE, ELEVATION ABOVE GRADE AND SEA LEVEL MATERIALS, COLOR SIGNAGE AND LIGHTING.
THE NAME OF THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF EACH ANTENNA SHOULD BE DELINEATED ON THE PLAN ELEVATION MEASUREMENTS SHALL NOT BE REQUIRED FOR UTILITY POLES IN, IN THE RIGHT OF WAY.
SO IF YOU LOOK, WELL, THERE'S FOUR EIGHT.
DOES SOMEBODY SEE? CAN SOMEBODY TELL ME? I WOULD BE ASKING THEM IF THEY WERE HERE, IF THEY HAD TAKEN THE TIME TO COME.
UM, WHERE T-MOBILE IS MENTIONED HERE,
[00:35:01]
IT SAYS AT THE TOP, TOP OF CROWN CASTLE ANTENNA.IT'S THE T-MOBILE, IT'S CROWN.
IT SAYS IN THE BEGINNING THE T-MOBILE S HERE.
OKAY, SO WHOSE ANTENNA IS IT? WE SEE TACO ANTENNA ON THE LEFT SIDE AND IT SAYS ON THE RIGHT SIDE TOP OF CROWN CASTLE THE TOP AND THE TOP IS DIFFERENT.
THIS IS THE EXISTING, THIS IS THE PROPOSED.
THEY'RE RAISING THIS UM, BY FOUR FEET BY ABOUT QUITE FOUR FEET, FEET NINE INCHES.
SO NO, NO, NO REPEAT THREE INCHES.
ANYWAY, SO THE CENTER LINE, EVERYTHING CHANGES AND SHIFTS BUT I'M UNCLEAR WHERE T-MOBILE IS.
SHOULD REPLACE EXISTING CHANNEL.
BUT WHY IS IT NOT IDENTIFIED ON THE OTHER POST? IS THAT HERE YOU HAVE TWO IS EXISTING ANTENNA BE REPLACED? THAT'S THE CROWN CASTLE ANTENNA.
BUT YOU'RE GUESSING THAT IT'S THE CROWN CASTLE ANTENNA BECAUSE IT'S NOT IDENTIFIED.
AND THIS IS AN APPLICATION FOR WHEN I WENT BACK TO TRY AND FIND, UM, IT'S THE OPERATOR'S TEAMABLE.
SO THESE ARE TWO DIFFERENT POLES.
THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING ARE WE GETTING A NEW POLE? IT LOOKS LIKE A NEW POLE.
SO THAT WOULD MAKE THAT, THAT THAT UM, COMPLETE INCOMPLETE BECAUSE THEY DON'T MENTION AS PART OF THEIR WORK THAT THEY'RE REPLACING THE POLE.
BUT IT WOULD LOOK TO ME LIKE IT'S A NEW POLE, BUT NOBODY CAME TO TELL US.
AND WHEN YOU WROTE IT UP, JUST LIKE THEY DON'T IDENTIFY THE ANTENNA, DID YOU SAY PROPOSED CROWN PE? RIGHT.
SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF RIGHT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL, THEY SAY ON OF SIX OF EIGHT EXISTING UTILITY POLE.
AND THEN IF YOU OF THE CROSS IT SAYS PROPOSED 40 FOOT CROWN, RIGHT? THAT'S A GREAT FINE.
SO THEN THERE'S, I'M TOSSING OUT THE OTHER, IT'S INCOMPLETE BECAUSE THEIR WORK DOES NOT DESCRIBE WHAT'S BEEN PLACED IN THE CALL.
SO THE EXISTING POLL IS, IS CODED CODIFIED AS VZT FIVE NINE.
SO THE EXISTING UTILITY POLL, THEY HAVE CODIFIED AS NUMBER VZT FIVE NINE AND THEN A ONE HALF SYMBOL.
AND THEN OVER HERE ON THE OTHER SIDE, THEY'RE PROPOSING TO PUT A 40 FOOT CLASS TWO SOUTHERN PINE UTILITY POLE TO REPLACE THAT DZT FIVE NINE.
SO IT'S CLEARLY A REPLACE POLE, WHICH IS WHY THE HEIGHTS DON'T MATTER AND WHY THEIR NEAR LEVELS DON'T WORK.
UM, BUT ALSO, WELL IT'S GENERIC BUT THE, THIS NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THEIR DESCRIPTION OF A COMPLETE DESCRIPTION OF ALL WORK NECESSARY TO COMPLETE, UM, INCLUDING TO COMPLETE, INCLUDING INSTRUCTION AND INSTALL THE PROPOSED MODIFICATIONS WHICH ISN'T WRITTEN IN IT.
UM, THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THAT THING AT THE TOP, THE CROWN CASTLE ANTENNA.
SO YOU'RE SAYING T-MOBILE HAS NO ANTENNAS? NO T-MOBILE IS INSIDE THE SHROUD.
[00:40:01]
THAT? IT SAYS EQUIPMENT.IT DOESN'T TELL US WHAT THAT IS.
WE HAD PROBLEMS WITH THAT LAST TIME.
T-MOBILE EQUIPMENT INSIDE THE SHROUD TO REPLACE THE EXISTING SHROUD.
SEE A DEFINITION OF EQUIPMENT IF YOU GO TO, THERE ARE ANSWERS FOR OTHER QUESTIONS IN THE BEGINNING NUMBER.
I'M LOOKING AT K THROUGH M, THE NUMBER TYPE AND DESIGN OF ANTENNAS PROPOSED.
UM, IT SAYS OMNIDIRECTIONAL CANISTER ANTENNA.
DOESN'T SAY WHO OWNS IT ON THIS EITHER.
THEY, THEY MIGHT AS WELL SPELL THE WORD SCARSDALE CORRECTLY ON THE PLANS ANYWHERE.
THE ADDRESS CARDALE WHAT? SCARSDALE SCAR.
BUT IT'S ALSO WRONG BECAUSE WE HAVE ANOTHER ADDRESS FOR THIS.
VERY, I DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT.
THIS IS, THIS IS WHAT WE WERE CALLING OUT A MESS ON THE ON C IT SAYS THE NEAREST ADDRESS FOR REFERENCE IS 55 JACKSON AVENUE, GREENBURG, NEW YORK 1 0 7 0 6.
THE THE DESCRIPTION ON THE DRAWINGS IS SCARSDALE AND THE ZIP IS 1 0 5 8 3.
AND LET ME LOOK THE LAST PAGE HERE.
I GOT OUT OF IT HERE BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WHAT STRIP CODE? 1 0 7 0 6.
BUT THEY HAVE THE DRAWINGS WRONG EITHER.
I BELIEVE THIS IS JACKSON AVENUE CLOSE TO THIS, YOU KNOW, CLOSE TO THIS BRAIN BUT I'M NOT SURE I 1 0 5 8 3 AND THAT'S
I DO BELIEVE THAT THEY BOTH, JACKSON PROBABLY HAS A LITTLE BIT OF BOTH GARCIA AND UH, HAYING OR YONKERS? I DON'T KNOW.
WELL IT'S REALLY NOT SUBJECT TO GUESSING.
I THINK I WOULD DO THAT THOUGH.
IT'S GONNA SAY I DON'T THINK I CAN SEARCH RIGHT NOW 'CAUSE IT'S GONNA BE RECORDED INSTEAD OF THE MEETING AND HAVE FOR THE MEETING
BECAUSE IT SAYS 55 JACKSON AVENUE SCARSDALE IN YORK.
BUT OUR SCARSDALE HAS TWO SAYS MISSPELLED THERE BUT SO BACK TO S.
SO IT'S NOT HASTINGS BUT THE ZIP CODE SAYS 1 0 7 0 6 AND IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO DO THEIR WORK.
[00:45:01]
SOME PLACES IT SAYS 1 0 7, 0 6 AND ONE SOMEPLACE IT SAYS, AND THEY CALLS IT GREENBERG IN HERE THEY CALL IT SCARSDALE AND OR SCARSDALE.WHAT BANK? I, I'M, I DON'T KNOW.
THEY HAVE TO, WE DON'T ACCEPT PICTURES AS IDENTIFICATION EITHER.
NO, I JUST, I KNOW BUT I LIKE THE SITE.
WE KNOW IT'S WRONG BECAUSE SOMETHING'S WRONG.
SOMETHING THERE SHOULD BE UNIFORMITY.
OKAY, SO BACK TO THIS ABOUT, UM, YOU ARE SATISFIED THAT WE, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T IDENTIFY OWNERSHIP OF THE ANTENNAS ON THIS LEFT SIDE, WE REQUIRE THAT WE'VE ALWAYS REQUIRED IT.
IT'S JUST, I THINK THEY, THEY MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WHAT'S AT THE TOP AND WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN AND WHAT THEY'RE REPLACING AND THEY'RE REPLACING.
IN OTHER WORDS, THIS CAN IS THE SAME AS THAT CAN, BUT, AND HERE THEY IDENTIFIED THE CAN AS CA CROWN CASTLES KIND OF, BUT THEY NEED TO IDENTIFY IT HERE TOO.
BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT COULD BE AS SOMEBODY ELSE'S DOING IT.
BECAUSE THEY TOOK IT OVER FROM ANOTHER COMPANY.
BUT IT SAYS PROPOSED CROWN TASSEL ANTENNA TO REPLACE EXISTING.
YES, BUT THEY TOOK OVER FROM NEXT STREET.
SO THEY NEED TO IDENTIFY ON BOTH AS LONG AS THEY HAVE OTHER THINGS TO DO, IT'S NOT UM, IS THE OWNERSHIP OF THE POLL IDENTIFIED BE A DOWN WHERE THEY HAVE TO DESCRIBE THE DESCRIPTION OF WORK CAN BE DONE SO THAT THEY COULD FIX IT THERE.
I'M SORRY, IT SHOULD BE DESCRIBED.
WHO OWNS THE POLE SHOULD BE DESCRIBED AS THE, THE WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
SO WHEN THEY FIX THAT SITE, THAT PART OF IT UP, IT'S A NEW POLE.
THEY SHOULD SAY WHO OWNS THE POLE? OKAY, IT SAYS PROPOSED 40 FOOT CLASS TWO SOUTHERN PINE UTILITY POLE TO REPLACE EXISTING POLE.
ON IT NOTES IT SAYS OWNER CROWN CASTLE.
SO SINCE OWNER IS NOT IDENTIFIED AS, WHAT DID YOU SAY THAT? YEAH, I WHAT NUMBER 14 OWNER CROWN CASTLE CAN UH, SEE IF YOU FIND THAT.
DO YOU SEE WHERE THE SIGNAGE THAT THIS GOES? THE SIGNAGE? WE HAVE THE SIGNAGE HERE.
THIS YOU THINK IT WAS UNDERLINED OR DON'T THINK I GOT THE SIGNAGE.
I DON'T DID YOU SEE LIGHTING OR ANY STATEMENT THAT THERE WON'T BE ANY LIGHTING? NO, BUT THEY DID THE SIGNAGE THAT EXHIBIT RIGHT? THEY THEY HAVE HERE THEY HAVE THE, THEY HAVE IT IDENTIFIED WHERE IT WILL BE AND THEY HAVE THE SIGNAGE HERE AND LIGHTING.
YOU SEE THAT SOMEPLACE DOWN HERE IT SAYS THERE'S NO EXISTING DOWN HERE ON THE PAGE.
THERE'S NO EXISTING LIGHTING AT THIS SITE NOR, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE NOR MIGHT BE.
AND THEN WE NOR THOSE CROWN CASTLE PROPOSE OR WILL INSTALL ANY NEW LIGHTING IS NOT RECALL FAR
THAT CROWN CASTLE LOANS TO VOTE.
I'M SORRY, I THINK 14 ESTABLISHES CROWN CASTLE LOANS TO VOTE.
EXCEPT THAT WHEN YOU GO TO THE FRONT OF THIS AND YOU ASK AND YOU LOOK AT QUESTION AND YOU LOOK AT UM, H IT SAYS CO-OWNER IS VERIZON.
[00:50:01]
I GOTTA PICK.SO PARDON? TWO THINGS CAN, IN THIS CASE TWO THINGS CAN'T BE RIGHT IF IT SAID THERE, THAT MIGHT BE CORRECT.
SO THEY HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE OWNERSHIP.
I JUST WROTE DOWN IDENTIFY ON POLE, ON BOTH POLES ON FOUR EIGHT ALL OWNERSHIPS.
THAT'S UM, AND DIANE FOUND THAT THERE'S NO LIGHTING PROPOSED BUT THE LITTLE BOX THAT THEY HAVE HAS, IT'S AT THE BOTTOM HERE HAS NOR, AND IT DOESN'T, IT JUST DOESN'T CONTINUE.
SO THEY HAVE TO EITHER REMOVE NOR OR EXPLAIN WHAT IT MEANS.
IT SAYS NOR DOES CROWN CASTLE PROPOSE.
OR WILL AND INSTALL ANY NEW LIGHTING AT THIS LOCATION.
ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IS NOT REQUIRED FOR OUR EQUIPMENT.
IT GOES FROM THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE.
SO BASICALLY THE TWO THINGS WE HAVE, THE MAIN THING IS THE IDENTIFY WHEN BOTH POLES ON PAGE FOUR OF EIGHT ALL OWNERSHIPS.
WE'RE ONLY ON THE FIRST OF THREE.
UM, CI HAD AS COMPLETE BECAUSE THEY SHOW ON THAT DRAWING THEY SHOW WHERE THEY'RE GONNA PUT THE SIGN AND THEY HAVE ALSO THE SIGN ITSELF.
SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S COMPLETE? YES.
THE CERTIFICATE OF INSURANCE HAS THE WRONG ADDRESS YOU SAID? UH, YEAH, I ACTUALLY I NOTED YOU AND YOU WHETHER THE SITE ITSELF IS WHAT'S INSURED OR WHAT, HOW THAT, WHETHER THE SITE ITSELF HAS TO APPEAR ON ONE OF THE, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO THE AND THE ADDRESS, THE PROPERTY INSURANCE FOR PROPERTIES REPLACEMENT COSTS AGAINST ALL RISK, WORKMAN'S COMP AND COMMERCIAL GENERAL LIABILITY.
SO IT HAS JACKSON AVENUE GREENBURG.
SO, AND IT HAS 1 79 JACKSON AVENUE AND THAT'S THE CERTIFICATE OF MY ABILITY.
THE ADDRESS NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
IF THEY LISTEN TO THE TAPE, THEY WILL UNDERSTAND.
IT ALSO HAS TO BE CLARIFIED WHETHER IT'S 55 JACKSON OR 1 79 JACKSON.
WELL IT HAS TO BE 55 JACKSON AND HOPEFULLY THAT'S THE CORRECT NUMBER.
'CAUSE THEN ALL THE OTHER DOCUMENTS ARE ALL, YEAH, I 1 79 IS, WE'VE HAD THAT NOW TWICE.
AND I'M WONDERING BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MANY SITES THAT THEY JUST MIX UP STUFF.
BUT IT'S NOT FOR US TO, WE HAVE TO GO BY WHAT'S GIVEN TO US.
I'M JUST LOOKING AT WHAT THEY GAVE.
AND THAT'S TRUE FOR THE WORKMAN'S COMP AS WELL, RIGHT? WELL WORKMAN'S COMP
DID THEY GIVE US A DUPLICATE? IT'S HAPPENING.
YOU COULD PAY, WELL THREE PAGES THAT GIVE IT TO US AGAIN SEE AN ADDRESS ON WORKER'S COMP NOR DID THEY REALLY NEED TO GIVE IT TO US.
[00:55:01]
SO I THINK THOSE ARE ON POINT.SO WORKMAN'S COMP IS OKAY AND THAT LEADS TO, UH, PROPERTY INSURANCE FOR PROPERTIES REPLACEMENT COST A AGAINST ALL RISK AND IT LEAVES THE COMMERCIAL GENERAL LIABILITY CHOICE.
I KNOW BOTH OF THOSE INCLUDE, DOES APPEAR THAT THE NEW YORK STATE DISABILITY AND PAID LEAVE BENEFITS LAW, THEIR INSURANCE IS GONNA EXPIRE AT THE END OF THIS YEAR.
SO BY THE TIME THIS GETS TO THE BUILDING DEBT, WELL BY THE TIME THEY CORRECT THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK AND, AND SOME OF THIS IS AUTOMATICALLY RENEWED.
WHEN IF THEY GET THE CERTIFICATES IN
SO I'M MARKING THOSE, I'M MARKING ONE AND THREE INCOMPLETE, WHICH IS THE ADDRESSES NEED TO BE CORRECTED AND ADDRESSES NEED TO BE CONSISTENT.
AND THAT'S INSTANT PROPERTY INSURANCE AND GENERAL LIABILITY.
OKAY, SO I MOVE THAT WE DEEMED THIS INCOMPLETE.
AYE FRANCIS, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST LOOK AT THE COMMENTS? I WILL AFTERWARDS AND THEN MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
LET'S DO 1 0 5 POETS, OH STREET.
AROUND ALL THOSE STREETS IN POETS ANDON SCHOOL POETS CORNER.
YEAH, SORRY, WHICH ONE? UH, WHERE IT'S TWO B UH, DUE TO BB OR THAT READ IT THE SAME.
IT'S ACTUALLY NOT COMPLETELY, BUT YOU HAVE TO PUT A KNOT IN FRONT OF HASTINGS ON HUDSON.
BUT IT, THEY MIGHT SAY IT NEEDS TO BE HASTINGS ON HUDSON INSTEAD.
[01:01:05]
YOU NOT WANTING TO INDICATE EXCITEMENT.S ST ET MEAN IT'S A, IT'S A MISTAKE.
IT'S RIGHT UP THERE WITH PRECISE RIGHT.
SDET PUT YOUR INITIALS HERE AND THE DATE AND PUT YOUR INITIALS THERE AND THE DATE AND I THINK YOU WERE ALREADY VOTED ON IT AS BEING INCOMPLETE.
SO YOU MIGHT WANNA MARK THE FIRST PAGE INCOMPLETE.
THAT'S NOT THAT PICTURE INITIAL TOO.
I GO MAKE INITIALS AND THEN I'LL COME BACK.
THEN RATHER THAN BRING IT UPSTAIRS, LET'S JUST DO THEM ALL.
RATHER THAN BRING IT UPSTAIRS, WE GET STAMP.
WHY DON'T WE JUST DO THEM ALL FIRST? IT'S AT THIS POINT, IF THERE WAS A REPRESENTATIVE, THE APPLICANT HERE, THEY WOULD ALSO BE INITIALING NEW STRANGERS.
SO THERE'D BE AN UNDERSTANDING OF
HOPEFULLY IT'S JUST GONNA SLOW DOWN PROCESS.
[01:05:43]
WHAT DONE THIS SHOULD BE A LITTLE BIT REDUNDANT, REDUNDANT CURIOUS.JUST SHOWS THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING THESE SITES FOR A VERY LONG TIME AND THERE'S A FAMILY ON THIS ATION THAT IS COMPLETELY UN UNDO.
I CAN TEACH YOU TO WRITE THAT SMALL AND SQUARE WITH THAT.
HUH? I CAN TEACH YOU TO WRITE THAT SMALL.
I CAN'T, BUT YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T MEAN LIKE THE ADDRESS NEEDS TO CORRECT.
I HAD AN EXTRA B IN A DIFFERENT PLACE.
SO NOW LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE, WHICH IS
AND THE FIRST, THIS IS SUBMITTED ON THE, UH, 3RD OF DECEMBER AND WE ARE REVIEWING IT ON THE 12TH OF DECEMBER 20, 25, 9 DAYS LATER.
UM, I NOTED HERE THAT NO ONE APPEARED ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT.
UH, NUMBER ONE IS THE SAME PROBLEM.
INCOMPLETE BECAUSE THAT WE NEED A LICENSE NUMBER FOR DENNIS CAN'T PRONOUNCE HIS LAST NAME AND THEY NEED TO LIST THE PERSON THEY LISTED IN THE LAST ONE NEE.
AND THEY NEED TO PROVIDE THE QUALIFICATIONS.
FORNEE, THEY JUST THE FLAT PERSON OUT.
UM, ON THE SECOND ONE, ONE B THE SAME AS THE LAST.
THE PERSON NEEDS TO BE IDENTIFIED FOR EACH FOR THREE POSTAL ADDRESS.
THE NAME OF THE TOWN IN DALE LOOKS GOOD.
UM, SO THE POSTAL ADDRESS IS COMPLETE.
UM, THEY HAVE THIS PROBLEM WITH REVERSING THE QUESTION FOR DI CAN'T TELL HOW THAT HAPPENS.
SOMETIMES THEY LEAVE OUT PART OF THE QUESTION FOR D SOMETIMES THEY REVERSE THE REQUEST, BUT THE ANSWER IS PROVIDED.
SO HOPEFULLY IN THE FUTURE THEY'LL PAY ATTENTION TO IT FOR PRECISION.
'CAUSE IT MAKES YOU QUESTION ALL THE OTHER ONES THEY PUT IN.
DISTRICT E IS COLLECT F UM, THAT IS NOT COMPLETE.
IT'S INCOMPLETE BECAUSE THE FORMAT USED IN EXHIBIT 12 IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEY'VE USED IN OTHERS.
UM, AND WE WENT THROUGH A LOT TO GET THIS FORMAT OVER PAST APPLICATIONS WITH, WITH THESE SITES.
[01:10:01]
YOU TURN TO THE VERY LAST PAGE, WE HAVE NONE OF THE INFORMATION PROVIDED THAT WAS PROVIDED IN THE OTHER WE HAD, UM, ON THE LAST ONE NOTE IDENTIFICATION FOR T-MOBILE OR UM, BROWN.SO THEY NEED TO BE CONSISTENT AND THEY NEED TO PROVIDE AND THEY NEED TO HIGHLIGHT IT TOO AS THEY HAVE.
UM, I DON'T SEE THAT A, A NEW HOLE IS REQUIRED HERE, BUT I DO SEE THAT FROM LATER FROM READING THIS, THAT VERIZON IS PART OF THIS AND WE HAVE NO MENTION OF VERIZON.
ARE THEY GONNA LEAVE VERIZON JUST SITTING IN A DIFFERENT SHROUD? THERE'S NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT THEY'RE TWO DIFFERENT PROVIDERS IN THE WORK DESCRIPTION.
A CO-LOCATION AS I USED TO THE OTHER ONE.
SO WE'LL GET TO THE PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVEN'T PROVIDED ANYTHING ABOUT VERIZON, WHICH COMES UP IN IN AI.
BUT UM, BECAUSE THEY'RE TWO PROVIDERS IN THAT THEY NEED TO EXPLAIN HOW THAT'S GONNA GET.
I JUST WROTE TWO PROVIDERS ARE ON THIS, UM, ARE ON THIS SITE THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE DIRECT DESCRIPTION OF WORK.
IS THAT ADEQUATE DO YOU THINK? SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME.
TWO PROVIDERS ARE ON THIS SITE THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE DESCRIPTION OF WORK AND IF THEY NEED MORE OF AN EXPLANATION, THEY CAN LISTEN TO THE VIDEO AND THEY'LL GET A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING THAT THAT NEEDS TO BE INCLUDED.
ALTHOUGH THEY REFERENCED THAT AN INSPECTION'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE, WE STILL DON'T KNOW ABOUT H UM, I'M GOING TO MARK IT COMPLETE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION FOR IT AND THEY HAVE PROVIDED THAT INFORMATION.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO NAIL DOWN HOW THAT'S HANDLED.
BECAUSE IF THESE SITES ARE GOING IN, WE NEED TO KNOW THAT SOMEBODY'S COMING BACK TO INSPECT THE WAY THEY'RE HANDLED.
OH, SO VERIZON'S NOT BEING UPGRADED.
UM, ON I, IF, IF THE WIRELESS FACILITY BEING MODIFIED WILL PROVIDE SERVICE TO ANOTHER WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER ASSIGNED AGREEMENT OR OTHER DOCUMENTATION CLEARLY SHOWING THE WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER ON BEHALF OF WHICH THE WIRELESS FACILITY WILL BE PROVIDE WILL BE PROVIDING SERVICE.
IF THE APPLICANT AGREES TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO ADDITIONAL WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDERS DURING THE COURSE OF THE OPERATION OF THE WIRELESS FACILITY, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE NOTICE OF THE UM, TOWN NOTICE TO THE TOWN ALONG WITH A SIGNED AGREEMENT OR OTHER DOCUMENTATION.
IT IS SHOWING THE WIRELESS SERVICES PROVIDERS ON BEHALF OF WHICH THE SMALL WIRELESS SERVICE FACILITY WILL BE PROVIDING SERVICE.
THEY WRITE THE PROPOSED FACILITY IS NOT BEING MODIFIED TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO ANOTHER WIRELESS FAC UM, WIRELESS PROVIDER.
CURRENTLY T-MOBILE IS LOCATED AT THE SITE AND THE PROPOSED FACILITY IS BEING UPGRADED BY FIRST REMOVING THE EXISTING T-MOBILE GLOBAL CELLULAR EQUIPMENT.
THAT WAS WHAT WE NEEDED TO ADD TO THAT WE NEEDED TO ADD TO THE MINE EQUIPMENT.
OH THE, YEAH, I'M GOING TO ADD THIS.
IS THAT OKAY? DO WE WANNA TAKE A VOTE ON MY ADDING THAT? WELL IT WAS ALREADY DISCUSSED.
THEY WRITE, VERIZON IS ALSO LOCATED AT THE SITE AND NOT A SUBJECT OF THE UPGRADE AND EQUIPMENT IS NOT BEING UPGRADED.
[01:15:01]
THAT IS IRRELEVANT.THE VERIZON UPGRADE WAS APPROVED IN 2017.
I HAVE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1996 AND WHAT THEY WRITE NEXT IS TOTALLY NOT APPLICABLE.
PRIOR TO THE TOWN'S ELIGIBLE FACILITY REQUEST CODE PRIOR TO THE QUOTE WIRELESS PROVIDERS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY, WERE ABLE TO UPGRADE THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT VIA RIGHT OF WAY PERMIT.
WE HAVE ALWAYS TREATED THEM AS ANTENNAS AND WE'VE ALWAYS TREATED THEM AS UPGRADES.
GUESS WHAT'S NOT HERE? THERE IS NO EXHIBIT 13.
NO THERE ISN'T BECAUSE THERE IS NO DOCUMENTATION THAT CAN SHOW WHAT NEVER HAPPENED.
SO IF PERHAPS VERIZON DID SOMETHING ILLEGALLY BUT IT WOULD'VE COME BEFORE THIS BOARD.
SO THEY NEED TO ADDRESS VERIZON'S APPLICATION AND VERIZON BEING IN THE SITE AND ANYTHING TO THE CONTRARY IS NOT CORRECT.
AND IF THEY'RE GOING TO REFERENCE AN EXHIBIT, THEY SHOULD INCLUDE DATES TODAY.
RIGHT? IT WOULD BE GREAT TO SEE EXHIBIT 13.
OBVIOUSLY NOT STREET OPENING PERMIT.
THEY LISTED AS 1 0 5 POST STREET SCARSDALE.
BUT IT'S THE ONLY PLACE I CAN FIND.
WELL I HAVE TO GO BACK TO THAT BECAUSE THE CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION SHOULD BE INCOMPLETE BECAUSE IT IS THE, THE PERMIT IS INCOMPLETE.
NO, WELL IT LOOKS LIKE THE TOWN ACCEPTED IT BUT I DON'T SEE A STAMP THAT THE TOWN ACCEPTED THAT PERMIT ISSUED ISSUED BY SOMEBODY RATHER.
THAT'S H AND THAT WOULD BE EXHIBIT SEVEN THAT PERCEIVED BY THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.
BUT I DON'T SEE STAND FROM, I CAN'T THINK IT, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT BUT WE SO LEAVE IT ALONE.
WE CAN NOTE IT BUT WE CAN'T DO MUCH ABOUT THAT SIX YEARS AGO.
LIKE MARTINO IS THE ONE HARD TO MAKE OUT THE SIGNATURE.
THIS STREET OPENING PERMIT IS FROM FIVE AND A HALF YEARS AGO.
THEY'RE OBVIOUSLY GONNA HAVE TO GET ANOTHER ONE TO DO THE WORK THAT THEY'RE GONNA DO.
HOPEFULLY THEY'LL PUT THE CORRECT ADDRESS.
THERE'S ANOTHER SPECIAL THING ABOUT THIS.
THIS HAS GUIDE WIRES AND THEY'RE NO ON THEIR DRAWING, THERE ARE NO GUIDE WIRES OR ANCHORS.
[01:20:03]
AT LEAST NOT TONIGHT.OKAY, SO I WROTE HERE, UM, ONE MUST INCLUDE VERIZON.
TWO ALL WIRELESS PROVIDERS ARE INCLUDED.
UM, THREE ALL APPLICATIONS INCLUDING ALL UPGRADES HAVE HAD TO COME BEFORE THE ANTENNA RE ANTENNA BOARD SINCE 1996.
IT REFERENCED IT MUST BE INCLUDED.
ALL WIRELESS PROVIDERS ARE INCLUDED.
LIKE A DECLARATION THAT THEY'RE ALL THERE AND, OKAY, SO THEN WE GET TO THE NEXT QUESTION WHICH IS ABOUT THE UM, CAPACITY.
AND THIS IS WHERE IT SAYS IN THE, THE CAPACITY THE EXISTING WOOD POLE WAS CALCULATED TO BE STRESSED TO A MAXIMUM OF 86 PERCENTAGE OF ITS THEORETICAL DESIGN CAPACITY.
THE EXISTING DOWN DOWN GUYS AND ANCHORS WILL BE STRESSED TO A MAXIMUM CAPACITY OF 54%.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE PICTURES, I DON'T IN MY RECOLLECTION REMEMBER THIS.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT SAY WELL SAY WE HAVE OVER GUY EYE AND ANKLE DI BUT THEY'RE NOT ON THE DORM.
WELL THEY SHOULD BE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THAT'S WHAT'S NECESSARY TO GET STABILITY.
THE WHAT WHAT IS INTERESTING TO ME IS IN EACH OF THESE STRUCTURAL, IT'S VERY SPECIFIC AND WHEN THEY GIVE THE NEARS IT JUST THREW
SO IF THEY COULD PAY AS MUCH ATTENTION TO THE NEAR LEVEL SITE SPECIFIC AS THEY DO WHEN THEY DO THE STRESS LEVELS, WE MIGHT ACTUALLY HAVE SOMETHING STAPLE.
NOT ONE HERE FROM FOUR THAT I WAS LOOKING FOR, I THINK.
WHEN DID THOSE GO UP? THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW.
THEY'RE SAYING THE GUIDE, THEY HAVE THE DOWN WIRE GUIDE WIRES HERE IN THE PHOTOGRAPH? NO, ON THE PLAN AND SHOWING WHERE THEIR ANKLE PUMP.
WHAT, WHAT'S WRONG? FOUR OF EIGHT.
4 1 0 5 4 4 OF EIGHT WHAT? EIGHT FOUR OF EIGHT AMONG FOUR OF EIGHT.
SO GO TO THE RIGHTMOST POST AND YOU SEE KIND OF DOWN GUY AND THEY'RE TELLING US THE ANCHOR QUEEN
UM, YOU GO TO PAGE FIVE, YOU'LL SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
YOU MEAN YOU WANT THEM TO COME DOWN, RIGHT? YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S, WE'VE ALWAYS HAD EVERYTHING THAT'S CONNECTED WITH DRAW NOW.
SO THAT YOU ACTUALLY SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CLOSE TO THAT HOUSE.
YEAH, IT'S VERY CLOSE TO THE HOUSE.
I WONDER IF THOSE WIRES GO BEYOND THE RIGHT OF WAY.
I DON'T UH, IT MAY BE A PERCEPTION ISSUE ON THE PHOTOGRAPH.
THAT'S WHY IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD IF IT WAS ON THE PLANTS.
WE ALSO DON'T INCLUDE ANYTHING ABOUT VERIZON ON THE PLANTS, BUT WE'RE NOT UP TO THE THAT YET.
WE'RE ONLY UP TO THE, WE'RE ONLY UP TO THE UH, CERTIFICATE OF EXPORT STRUCTURE JAY.
I JUST DON'T REMEMBER THERE HAVING BEEN
[01:25:02]
G WIRES BEFORE.MM-HMM
UM, SO DO WE WANT TO SAY THAT IS COMPLETE 'CAUSE IT PROVIDES THE INFORMATION REQUESTED.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHEN THOSE WIRES WERE ADDED, BUT THAT'S NOT AN ANSWER.
WHETHER IT'S STRUCTURALLY WE HAVE TO QUESTION.
WE DON'T HAVE, WE DON'T HAVE A RECORD.
THE FIVE AND A HALF YEAR OLD STREET OPENING WAS FOR WAS THAT TO ADD THE GUIDEWIRE SUB EDUCATION OF EXISTING EQUIPMENT TO CO-LOCATE.
SO THAT WASN'T TO ADD THE GUARD WIRES BUT AESTHETICALLY THAT REALLY CHANGES IT FOR THAT PROPERTY OWNER.
I DUNNO HOW WE WOULD SAY THAT'S NOT COMPLETE THOUGH.
SO I WROTE WHEN WERE THE GUIDE WIRES AND ANCHORS ADDED AND MARKING IT AS COMPLETE SO THEY'RE PREPARED FOR THAT QUESTION WHEN THEY COME BACK.
'CAUSE THIS IS GONNA GO BACK AND FORTH NUMEROUS TIMES.
K IS COMPLETE, L IS COMPLETE AS IS MM IS INCOMPLETE.
AND I'M GONNA COPY EXACTLY WHAT APPEARS IN THE OTHER.
BUT THEY ALSO GO ON TO SAY HERE, ALL PRIOR ELIGIBLE FACILITIES UPGRADES HAVE BEEN APPROVED USING THE SAME APPROACH.
AND THEY CITE THE SEPTEMBER 9TH, WHICH WAS THE ONE PUT IN BY PAUL COSTA.
THAT WE FOUGHT OVER FOR QUITE A LONG TIME BECAUSE IT WAS SO PACKED WITH INACCURACIES.
SO WE WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO EASILY JUDGE WHETHER THEY WERE USING A GENERIC.
SO NOW THEY'VE SUBMITTED SIX SINCE THEN AND EACH ONE HAS THE SAME REPORT, SAME, SAME CENTER LINE, SAME EVERYTHING.
AND THAT'S DOES THEY DO NOT, THEY THEY ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE DRAWINGS.
THEY'RE DIFFERENT THAN ALL THE OTHER MATERIAL.
AND WHAT THEY'RE BASICALLY SAYING IS WE SHOULD HAVE SUSPECTED THEM A LONG TIME AGO FOR NOT COMPLYING WITH THE LAW, WHICH IS A VERY BAD JUSTIFICATION FOR, FOR SOME
I MEAN THAT'S, THAT'S OUTRAGEOUS THAT THEY, THAT THEY THOUGHT THEY COULD PUT THIS IN THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO CORRECT IT BEFORE THEY GIVE US MORE.
AND THEY, AND ACTUALLY SOME OF THIS WE WENT OVER WITH THE LAST, THE LAST THREE WE WENT OVER THE SAME THING ABOUT THE, THE NEAR LEVEL AND THEY CHOSE NOT TO ADDRESS IT AT ALL THE GENERICS AND ALL THAT KIND OF THING.
SO I'M GOING TO COPY WHAT WE PUT IN THE OTHER, UM,
[01:30:05]
TO DO THAT.SO THEN CERTIFICATION THAT THE PROPOSED ATTENDANCE WOULD NOT CAUSE INTERFERENCE.
WE UH, UM, AND ADDING THE SAME LANGUAGE AS THE CHANGE, THE CHANGE LANGUAGE FROM AFFIRMATIVE OBLIGATION TO T-MOBILE WILL MAKE THE TAKE, WILL TAKE THE STEPS NECESSARY TO CORRECT IT.
I I THINK THE NOISE IS PROBABLY THE SAME ISSUE.
COULD YOU TAKE A LOOK? YES IT IS.
HOW ABOUT THE DATE OF THE REPORT VERSUS THE ISSUANCE
[01:35:04]
INSURANCE? THE INSURANCE IS DONE THEN THEY HAVE A DATE OF ISSUE.THE REPORT IS DATED FEBRUARY 2ND.
I HAVE, THERE'S A CONTRADICTION SLASH CONFLICT BETWEEN THE DATE OF THE REPORT AND OF ISSUANCE.
RIGHT? THE SIGNATURE PAGE AND THE DATE OF THE REPORT.
YOU THINK THE SIGNATURE PAGE WOULD HAVE A DATE AFTER THE, OR ON THE SAME DATE IN THE REPORT THERE IS A CONTRADICTION CONFLICT BETWEEN THE DATE OF THE REPORT AND THE SIGNATURE PAGE.
THERE IS A CONTRADICTION CONFLICT BETWEEN THE DATE OF THE REPORT AND THE SIGNATURE PAGE.
I'M HOPING IT WASN'T INTENTIONAL THAT THEY LOWERCASE THE S AND THE SELLER SO IT WOULDN'T JUMP OUT THAT IT WAS A STREET.
THINK NOW WE DON'T HAVE TO CHARACTERIZE IT, IT'S JUST WRONG.
UM, Q HAS THE DATE OF DECEMBER 15TH ONE YOU COMPLETE.
SO WE THINK ON MONDAY THEY'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT WITHOUT A PERMIT, WITHOUT A COMPLETE DOCUMENT.
THEY, THEY HAVE FOR WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GONNA DO THE WORK AND IT SAYS, UH, CROWN HOUSE IS FORECAST INSTALLATION OF THE NEW EQUIPMENT AT THIS LOCATION BY DECEMBER 15TH, 2025.
WHICH IS MONDAY, ISN'T IT? RIGHT? YEAH.
BUT THEY'RE NOT HERE TO ANSWER THE QUESTION.
SO WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE A COMPLETE DOCUMENT.
'CAUSE IT IS ACTUALLY AT 14 FEET, EIGHT INCHES.
I KNOW, BUT THE OTHER ONE WAS 14 FEET, NINE INCHES.
AND WE'LL SEE WHAT THE THIRD ONE IS 'CAUSE IT SAYS THE SAME THING.
SO IN LOOKING AT S WE HAD, I THINK IT'S, SOME OF IT IS GOING TO BE THE SAME, BUT THEY DON'T ALSO INCLUDE VERIZON.
SO WOULD YOU FIND, DOES IT SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT LIGHTING? YES.
THERE IS NO EXISTING LIGHTING.
SO THEY'VE DONE LIGHTING BUT THEY HAVE A, WHAT'S INTERESTING THIS IS, BUT IT SAYS NO, NO LIGHTING IS PROPOSED.
IT'S IN A DIFFERENT PRINT THAN THE OTHER DECISION.
THERE'S NO EXISTING LIGHTING AT THIS SITE.
WELL THERE'S A, THERE'S A STREETLIGHT BUT UM, NOR DOES CROWN PROPOSE OR WILL INSTALL ANY NEW LIGHTING AT THIS LOCATION.
ADDITIONAL LIGHTING IS NOT REQUIRED FOR OUR EQUIPMENT.
[01:40:02]
UM, INTERIOR MATERIALS ARE IN THE PINK, THAT LOVELY PINK.UM, ON BOARD THEY HAVE SIGNAGE,
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T HAVE MUST INCLUDE THAT WOULD BE GUY WIRES AND ANCHORS DRAWN.
UM, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT PROPOSED THERE.
I DON'T SEE VERIZON OR YOU SEE, DO YOU SEE ON THE LEFT ONE? IT'S THE ONLY TWO MOBILE ON THIS ONE.
AGAIN, IT WAS WRITTEN IN HERE SOMEWHERE.
WHERE IT IS IT SAYS PROPOSED MOTOR EQUIPMENT THAT YOU HAVE TO DEFINE EQUIPMENT.
OH, WHAT HAPPENED? NOTHING ON FOUR OF EIGHT.
SORRY, YOU'RE ON FOUR OF EIGHT.
YEAH, FOUR OF EIGHT IT FOUND, I FOUND T-MOBILE
SO IT'S THE EQUIPMENT THAT'S NO MENTION OF REPLACING.
SEE IT SAID THAT HORIZON LAST TIME WAS NOT THERE.
YOU KNOW THAT IT WAS NOT IN CONSIDERATION.
AND IT HAS TO ALSO BE ON THE DRAWINGS.
IF YOU WANNA ADD THE THING ABOUT THE LIGHTING 'CAUSE IT'S HARD.
IT'S WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE THIS A LONG TIME, THEY PUT IT ON THE DRAWINGS AS A NOTE.
SO THEY HAVE THIS CHART HERE, UM, BUT THEY DON'T INCLUDE THE REST OF IT AND THEY HAVE TO INCLUDE VERIZON.
SO WHAT I WROTE HERE IS MUST INCLUDE THE D WIRES AND ANCHORS DRAWN OUT.
THREE MUST IDENTIFY EQUIPMENT.
FOUR IDENTIFY ON BOTH GOALS AND FOUR OF EIGHT ALL OWNERSHIPS.
T UM, THEY HAVE THE SIGN AND IT'S ON THE DRAWING AND IT'S ON WHERE IT'S GONNA BE IS THERE AND WHAT
AND SO WHAT DID THEY WRITE?
WHAT ELSE? IT MIGHT INCLUDE WHAT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE INCLUDE.
SO NOW WE HAVE, I I WILL ASK BEFORE THE INSURANCE.
IT SAYS PROVIDED AGREEMENT WILL RETAIN THE SITE.
WHERE IS THAT? THAT THEY HAD THIS TO THERE
[01:45:01]
THE EXACT SAME THING ON THE LAST ONE.OKAY, SO I MOVE, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEEM THIS INCOMPLETE 1 0 5 POST STREET.
WE DON'T DO AND THEN I'LL INITIAL THREE.
THESE ARE NOT THE EASIEST THINGS TO PULL.
NO, BUT THEY'RE BETTER WHEN YOU HAVE THEM STAPLED IN THE CORNER.
THEY'RE THE ONLY PERSON I KNOW WHO DOES THE SLEEP IS MUCH EASIER TO HANDLE IF THEY HAVE THIS ONE IS, IT'S DUKES 44, 4 HILL ROAD WITH GLASSES ENGINEERS.
YOU WANNA MAKE THAT INCOMPLETE LONG DAY
IT'S BEEN NO LONG GETTING, YOU DIDN'T EXPECT ME TO GET UP AND WALK AROUND AND HAND IT TO YOU.
[01:50:08]
DO HAVE A HARD STOP AT SEVEN 40.WHAT TIME IS IT'S SEVEN AN HOUR.
NO, I JUST PUT NOBODY ON LEGAL GUIDELINES.
DO YOU WANT, DO YOU SUCH A GUIDE BOARD? I TOOK THE LANGUAGE OUT THERE.
DO YOU WANT EM? YOU'LL BELIEVE I'M A LITTLE CLOSER TO YOU BECAUSE HE'S A GUY
I'M TIRED OF, I JUST GOT THAT JOKE 'CAUSE HE'S A GUY
IT WOULD PROBABLY BE GUID GUIDE BY GUIDING.
OKAY, NOW I'M GONNA INITIAL IT AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE.
THAT WAS THE LAST ONE FOR TODAY.
SO SHOW YOU INITIALED EVERYTHING THEN WE'LL,
[01:55:55]
BETTER THING THAT NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.THE ED OF THE ITEM IT NEEDS, NEEDS TO BE CHANGED.
AND JUST TO ANNOY YOU, I'M NOT SURE WRITING THAT TOO LATE.
JUST QUICK FINISH THE X THERE.
SO THIS GOES, THIS GOES TO THE SIDE HERE.
THIS ONE'S A LITTLE DIFFERENT.
SO THE FIRST TWO ARE THE SAME PROBLEMS, WHICH, UM,
AND I PUT THE WORD NEED IN FRONT OF BOTH OF I LEARNED.
THEN WE HAVE, SO B, WE STILL NEED, THEY NEED TO PROVIDE A PERSON FOR EACH.
UM, I JUST, YOU KNOW THIS WHOLE THING WITH ADDRESSES, THEY'VE MESSED UP THE ADDRESSES ON THIS TOO.
SO THIS, BUT THIS IS CORRECT WITH THE ADDRESS AND POSTAL ADDRESS, STREET AND BLOCK.
SO C IS COMPLETE AND WE, THEY, ALTHOUGH THEY INVERTED GIS AND THEY SOMEHOW CAN'T GET TO WRITE A CORRECT SENTENCE WITHOUT D IS COMPLETE.
E WHAT WAS EXHIBIT ONE HAS NOTHING IN IT'S THE PLANS.
IF YOU GO TO F IT SAYS, UM, THE LAST LINE OF IT SAYS EXHIBIT 12 SHOWS THE NODE ASSOCIATED WITH THE APPLICATION IS CONTRACTED BRIEFLY.
CROWN CASTLE, CASTLE AND T-MOBILE.
WE GO TO THE LAST PAGE OF THIS WHICH OLOGIST, WHICH IS THE 12 AND THE LAST OF PAGE.
WELL THEY HAVE THE WRONG ADDRESS AND THEY HAVE THE WRONG FORM.
WHY ARE THEY HIGHLIGHTING 4 0 4 LEY BROWN? BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE WRONG ADDRESS AND THEY'VE BEEN HIGHLIGHTING IT, BUT THEY'VE ALSO BEEN PRO PROVIDING ALL THE NODES AND ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT IT.
AND HERE WE HAVE NO CONNECTION WITH THAT.
SO I'M DIRECTING THEM BACK TO THEIR FORMAT.
OH, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THE TWO B DETERMINED I GUESS.
IT'S A, IF YOU LOOK AT THE 1, 2, 2 UNDERNEATH THE HIGHLIGHTED ONE, IT HAS TWO BE DETERMINED SIX 40.
[02:00:08]
IN NO WAY.SO THEN WE HAVE UM, B AND FROM I CANNOT SEE THAT A NEW POLL IS, IS BEING PUT IN THERE.
ANYBODY SEE SOMETHING TO THE CONTRARY? UH, CODE FOUR EIGHT.
THEY'RE NOT PROPOSAL, BUT YOU CAN'T TELL YEAH, IT'S EXISTING ANTENNA.
BUT THEY DIDN'T CITE IT IN THE LAST ONE THAT THEY WERE REPLACING THE POLE.
SO IT'S THE SAME POLE BECAUSE IT'S SO I THINK THAT THE DESCRIPTION IS COMPLETE.
THE FIRST ONE IS THE ONE THAT, THAT WAS THE PROBLEM.
THIS IS THIS I IS INCOMPLETE FOR THE SAME REASONS AS THE LAST BECAUSE THEY'RE INCLUDING VERIZON AND THEY TRY TO CLAIM THAT IT WAS DONE BEFORE.
BUT THEN WHEN YOU GO TO EXHIBIT 13 TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY DOCUMENTATION OF THEIR CLAIM, THERE'S NO 13.
THERE'S NO SO IT IS, I'M GOING TO COPY EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE FOR THE LAST ONE HERE BECAUSE PROBLEM IT IS AN EXHIBIT 13.
I DON'T HAVE REALLY, THEY LOOK, WAIT, WELL I DON'T HAVE ONE.
I CAN ONLY GO, IT'S AT THE END.
IT'S IN THE 12 LOOK IS YOU SEE EXHIBIT 13 HERE? I DON'T, NO, THEY DON'T HAVE NO TAB.
THAT'S WHAT THEY, THEY HAVE THE EXHIBIT.
OH WAIT, AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY HAVE THE RIGHT FORMAT.
THEN WE GO BACK AND SEE THE LAST ONE.
THEY HAVE THE RIGHT FORMAT TRYING MAKE SURE THE OTHER DIDN'T DO THAT TOO.
WHICH ONE? THE ONE OTHER ONE THAT HAD VERIZON IN IT.
BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO ADJUST IT, CORRECT? I BELIEVE.
THEY MUST NOT HAVE BEEN THAT SAID 13.
AND WHAT THE HECK IS THIS LAST CASE HERE? WELL, 13TH WAS ON THAT ONE.
I DON'T, WE HAVE THAT DOES NOT.
HERE IS THE 13TH AND THE OTHER ONE TOO.
SO WHAT IS IT THAT THEY NEED IN EXHIBIT 13? THEY'RE CLAIMING THAT I DON'T, YOU HAVE TO GO TO THAT ANSWER FIRST.
AND THIS ONE THAT WE'RE DOING NOW, F 13 IS I, AND WHAT WE HAVE FOR I AND WHAT WE WROTE IN THE LAST ONE,
[02:05:08]
WHAT WE HAVE HERE FOR THAT IS MUST INCLUDE VERIZON.ALL WIRELESS PROVIDERS ARE TO BE INCLUDED.
UM, ALL APPLICATIONS INCLUDING ALL UPGRADES HAVE, HAVE HAD TO COME BEFORE THE
AND THAT'S WHAT SHOULD BE HERE.
YOUR QUESTION, WHAT ARE THEY SAYING? 13 DOES, SHE'S SAYING RIGHT HERE VERIZON IS LOCATED AT THE SITE AND NOT SUB, NOT A SUBJECT OF THE UPGRADE.
VERIZON UPGRADE WAS APPROVED IN 2017 PRIOR TO THE TOWN ELIGIBILITY REQUEST CODE WAS AN ACTIVE PRIOR TO THE TOWN'S CODE.
WIRELESS PROVIDERS IN THE RIGHT OF WAY WERE ABLE TO UPGRADE THE EXISTING EQUIPMENT VIA RIGHT OF WAY PERMITS.
THAT THIS DOESN'T, AS YOU'RE SAYING THIS DOESN'T, NO, IT JUST EXPLAINS THE REQUIREMENTS FOR AN ELIGIBLE FACILITY REQUEST.
BUT WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IS TO, TO GATHER THE DATA FOR THE BILLING INSPECTOR SO THAT THAT DETERMINATION CAN ULTIMATELY BE MADE SO EXHIBIT 13 DOES NOT ADDRESS HORIZON.
ALRIGHT, WHERE, WHERE, LET'S GET OUR SECTION, OUR SECTION OF THE CODE.
DO YOU WANNA SEE WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR? OKAY.
ALI, I THINK YOU WAIT NO, I'M SORRY.
THE WIRELESS FACILITY, IF A WIRELESS FACILITY WE MODIFIED WILL PROVIDE SERVICE TO ANOTHER WIRELESS, UM, SERVICE PROVIDER ASSIGNED AGREEMENT OR OTHER DOCUMENTATION FURTHER SHOWING THE WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER ON BEHALF OF WHICH THE WIRELESS FACILITY WILL BE PROVIDING SERVICE.
IF THE APPLICANT AGREES TO PROVIDE SERVICE TO ADDITIONAL WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDERS DURING THE COURSE OF THE OPERATION OF THE WIRELESS FACILITY, THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE NOTICE TO THE TOWN ALONG WITH A SIGNED DOC AGREEMENT OR OTHER DOCUMENTATION CLEARLY SHOWING THE WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER ON BEHALF OF UM, WHICH THE SMALL WIRELESS SERVICE FACILITY WILL BE PROVIDING SERVICE.
SO CROWN'S CROWN OWNS THE POLE, RIGHT? CROWN DOESN'T OWN THE POLE.
VERIZON POOL EACH THE POLLS, SOME ARE OWNED BY CON AND SOME ARE OWNED BY VERIZON.
THIS SPECIFIC POLE IS OWNED BY CON EDISON.
THAT POLE IS, I HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THAT'S, THAT POLE IS OWNED BY VERIZON.
BUT BOTH OF THEM HAVE IN THEM.
SO WHO'S THE APPLICANT? THE APPLICANT IS CROWN THE OPERATOR'S T-MOBILE FOR THEIR CLAIMING FOR THIS PARTICULAR.
BUT THE REALITY IS VERIZON'S IN THERE TOO.
AND YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION AND THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF THEIR AGREEMENT.
SO CONED OWNS THE POLE, CROWN IS LEASING THE BOWL IS THE USE OF THE POLE BECAUSE THE CONED IS STILL ON THE POLE.
SO THE APPLICANT IS CROWN, THE APPLICANT IS CROWN, THE OPERATOR IS T-MOBILE.
THE POLE OWNER, UM, THE ONE WE'RE WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS CON EDISON AND THE PROPERTY OWNER OF RIGHT OF AWAY IS TOWN OF GREENBURG.
THE WIRELESS FACILITY BEING MODIFIED OR PROVIDE SERVICE TO ANOTHER WIRELESS SERVICE PROVIDER.
DECIDE WHAT THIS WAS TO DO, WAS TO STOP THEM FROM LOADING UP.
PARTICULARLY THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES WITH LOTS AND LOTS OF APPLICANTS AND NOT HAVING TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD AND, AND, AND WHEN THEY UPGRADE, DO SOMETHING LIKE THEY DID BEFORE.
WE HAD THIS APPLICATION BEFORE.
[02:10:01]
AND THIS WAS THE ONLY KIND OF CONTROL WE HAD.SOUNDS LIKE CROWN CON CONTROLS.
HOW MANY PROVIDERS? WELL WHO THE APPLICANTS ARE THAT WILL COME BEFORE US FOR THAT POLL.
HOW MANY OPERATORS? RIGHT? SO I THINK THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE US DEALING WITH NINE AS OPPOSED TO JUST TELLING US WHAT THE CODE, WHAT THE UH, UH, ELIGIBLE FACILITY REQUIREMENTS ARE.
RIGHT? THEY, THEY DID WHAT THEY ALWAYS DO, THEY PROVIDE SOME LAW AND THEY DON'T ACTUALLY ANSWER THE QUESTION.
SO OUR LAWYERS SAY THEY NEED TO DO THAT.
SO LET'S, SO WHAT WE HAVE ON THE ONE FROM TO IS
ALL WIRELESS PROVIDERS ARE INCLUDED ARE TO BE INCLUDED.
ALL APPLICATIONS, INCLUDING ALL UPGRADES, HAVE HAD TO COME BEFORE THE ANTENNA BOARD SINCE 1996.
AND THAT IS IN DIRECT RESPONSE TO HER CLAIM THAT THAT HAPPENED BEFORE.
ANYTHING UM, EXHIBIT 13, ADD A TAB AND THEN I WAS GOING TO ADD RULES OF MY BRAIN IS WE WANTED TO ADD WHAT THERE WAS SOMETHING ELSE WE WANTED TO ADD TO THAT.
I HAVE TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF I WOULD AGREE.
OH I WANTED TO SAY THAT THE, THAT UH UH, EXHIBIT 13 DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.
YEAH, WELL THEY'RE GONNA MAINTAIN THAT IT DOES BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA PROVIDE THE INFORMATION BUT THAT'S HOW THEY SLOW DOWN THEIR APPLICATIONS TOO.
UH, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S NOT COMPLIANT WITH WHATEVER THE PROVISION OF OUR CODE IS.
WE HAVE TO SAY WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT.
WE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE A HISTORY LAST NIGHT.
I GOT THAT ANYWAY BECAUSE I
WHAT IS THE PICTURE? WHAT I WOULD DO IS WE HAVE TO SAY WHY SO IT'S NOT COMPLIANT WITH UH, OUR CODE PROVISIONS BECAUSE IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE, THE DATA REQUIRED WENT DOWN TO A READ THROUGH.
WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BE READ THROUGH? I JUST WANTED YOU TO LOOK AT THAT FOR THAT ONE.
'CAUSE I HAVE TO NOW TRANSPOSE IT ONTO THIS OTHER ONE.
AND STAT IS WHAT YOU WANT ME TO WRITE WHEN I CROSS SOMETHING OUT AND THEN IT SAY IT'S NOT RIGHT.
SO IF YOU PUT AN X THERE AND YOU DON'T MEAN TO PUT AN X BUT STAT.
AND THEN BUT THAT'S NOT THAT ONE.
IT SOUNDS BETTER THAN BOO BOO.
AND YOU KNOW WHAT I CAN DO WHAT I HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, WHICH IS SCAN THEM IN WHAT TYPE OF BONFIRE? ALL THAT PAPER.
[02:15:04]
DON'T WORRY.COMPUTERS ARE GONNA DO AWAY WITH PAPER.
WELL THEY CAN USE LESS THAN, I MEAN THE AMOUNT USED IS RIDICULOUS.
WELL IF YOU MAKE THE SLIGHTEST ERROR YOU'D REPRINT THE PAGE.
WHEREAS BEFORE YOU WOULD JUST NOW JUST DO A LITTLE RIGHT.
SEE, SO JAY IS CERTIFICATION THAT THE SPORTS STRUCTURE IS CAPABLE OF SAFELY HANDLING THE ANTENNAS.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IF I'M ON THE WRONG LINE, IF THE GUY READ THIS, UM,
UM, AND I THINK IT IS A GOOD COMPLETE K THE MAKE MODEL MANUFACTURER COMPLETE L COMPLETE, WHICH IS THE FREQUENCY MODULATION IN CLASS M IS COMPLETE THE NUMBER TYPE AND D ONE BACK TO N.
AND NOW WE HAVE N, WHICH IS INCOMPLETE FOR THE SAME REASONS AND I WILL WRITE THEM OVER.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT THEY HAVE TO DO ON THE PLANS BESIDES THE GUY WIRES ON THE OTHER ONE? YEAH, THEY HAVE TO PUT THE OWNERSHIP AND THEY HAVE TO SAY OKAY, UM, THEY ADDED SOMETHING DIFFERENT HERE.
MAYBE THEY PUT IT EACH ONE OF THEM AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY ADDED FOR THREE UNDER THE NEAR LEVELS A MONITORING PLAN.
THEY'D SAY THAT'S WHEN WE ASK FOR A MONITORING PLAN.
THE CROWN WILL MONITOR THE SITE EACH YEAR BY HOLDING AN RF READING AT THE SITE.
THE MONITORING PLAN WILL BE SENT TO THE TOWN OF GREENBURG BUILDING DEPARTMENT, WHICH WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR SENDING IT TO THE DEPARTMENT.
TOWN OF GREENBURG, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS ANNUALLY.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT ORDER WAS OKAY.
THAT THEY'RE GONNA SEND IT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
AND THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT IS THEN RESPONSIBLE.
UM, THEY ALSO DON'T TELL US WHERE THE MEASUREMENT IS HERE, BUT WE HAVE THE SAME INCOMPLETE WITH THE LANGUAGE FOR THE UM, INTERFERENCE.
DO YOU HAVE, I DON'T THINK I COPIED THE NOISE THING.
THERE'S JUST A LOT TO KEEP GOING.
SIGNATURE PAGE VERSUS THAT SAME THING REGARDING SELLER STREET.
I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHY, HOW THEY THINK THAT COULD POSSIBLY MAKE SENSE.
SAID A REPORT WITHIN SAY IT SPECIFIC REPORT.
THEY COULD CHOOSE IT FROM CALIFORNIA.
[02:20:01]
THERE.BUT IN SUBTLE STREET OR MAIN STREET THERE'S IT A SIDE STREET.
DOES IT HAVE MUCH INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY? RESIDENTIAL ACTIVITY? WE DON'T KNOW.
WE, THEY LIKE THAT SITE BECAUSE THERE'S JUST SO MUCH FOLIAGE AROUND IT.
DATA WORKS IN THE INSTALLATION.
WHAT ABOUT UM, IN THE NOISE REPORT, THE STATE OF THE SIGNATURE AND THE DATE OF THE REPORT, THEY'RE INCONSISTENT.
THE SIGNATURE PAGE IS DATED WELL BEFORE THE REPORT DATE.
HOW DO THEY GET IT? EMAIL IT TO THEM OR THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND YEAH.
WHAT HAPPENS IS THIS REPORT OR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL SEND IT TO THEM.
SINCE FEBRUARY 28TH IS STILL COMING.
ALSO THE SHROUD HAPPENS TO BE AT 14 EIGHT AND THEREFORE ALSO ON WHAT THEY WRITE IS COMPLETE.
[02:25:01]
THEY MUST INCLUDE VERIZON.I LET IDENTIFY ALL OWNERSHIP ON BOTH.
ALL POLLS ON ONE FOUR OF PAGES.
FOUR OF EIGHT ON PAGE FOUR OF EIGHT.
UM, AND T WE HAVE THE LIGHTING IDENTIFIED AS THE SIGNAGE WAS GOING TO IDENTIFY.
COULD SOMEBODY JUST LOOK AT THE SIGN TO MAKE SURE THEY DIDN'T LOOK YOU POPPED BUTTON.
UM, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THE, WE NEED LIGHTING, I GUESS.
WELL I JUST WONDER SOMETIMES WHAT HAPPENS IS THEY THROW OFF FROM THEIR DRAWINGS.
THE FACT THAT IT WAS IN 2 0 3 DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT.
THAT'S IT'S GONNA BE IN THREE.
CAN YOU SEE IT THERE? SEE SO, UM, IN ABOUT FIVE MINUTES I'M GONNA, ONE OF THE PAPERS
YOU IT WOULD'VE BEEN DONE A LONG TIME AGO.
YEAH, IF THEY'D SHOWN UP IT WOULD'VE HAD ANSWERS AND WE COULD HAVE MAY GONE OVER EVERYTHING BUT OKAY.
UM, OKAY SO THE PERMIT, THE ONLY THING WE HAVE IS THE QUESTION.
UM, SO EVERYONE IN COMPLAINT, I MOVE THAT WE DEEM THIS INCOMPLETE.
A IF THERE'S ANYBODY WHO OPPOSED, I GONNA SCREEN.
SO, UM, ALL IN FAVOR? WE ALL GO.
I'M WHEN IT'S UNANIMOUS, YOU KNOW IT'S UNANIMOUS.
[02:30:08]
POWER.DO YOU REMEMBER THAT OWL GIVES A HOOT ABOUT IT'S ALL LATE.
WE HAVE, WE KNOW HOW TO DO WE KNOW HOW TO HAVE PLUG.
HE SAID WHEN YOU MAKE A MISTAKE, I ASKED MY MISTAKE, I CROSSED IT OUT AS MANY TIMES I WROTE HERE COMPLETE.
'CAUSE I HAD MANY COLORS GOING.
FRIDAY NIGHT BACK TOO MANY YEARS IN A ROW.
WHAT'S THE TURQUOISE THING? THAT WAS ANOTHER PEN I HAD PRETTY, ISN'T IT FOR ME IT'S FIVE DAYS IN A ROW.
FIVE DAYS IN A ROW? YEAH, TO BOARD MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY LAST NIGHT THEN TONIGHT MOSTLY IT'S A LITTLE MUCH NO'S STILL BEING RECORDED.
YES, I CAN THIS TIME FOR ME JUST GO UP AND STAMP THEM.
SO YOU WANNA PAUSE? OH YES PLEASE.
SO HERE WE HAVE STAMPED COPIES OF EACH OF THE THREE APPLICATIONS.
ALL STAMPED TODAY, DECEMBER 12TH, 2025.
UH, THE ORIGINAL COPY HAS BEEN LEFT FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND A COPY HAS ALSO BEEN LEFT FOR THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, FOR THE APPLICANT.
UNLESS THERE ARE ANY OBJECTIONS, I KNOW WE'RE ALL HAVING A VERY GOOD TIME.
WHY DON'T YOU JUST SAY THE ADDRESS? IT'S FOR FOUR.
UNLESS THEY WANNA CALL IT ONE SEVENTY NINE JACKSON BECAUSE THEY HAVE IT MIXED ON THEIR APPLICATION.
6 44 FORT HILL ROAD AND 1 0 5 POST STREET.
YOU'RE GONNA MOVE TO ADJOURN? I AM MOVING TO ADJOURN.