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HEY, WELCOME EVERYONE.

[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH HARTSDALE CONTEXTUAL REVIEW COMMITTEE AGENDA Thursday, December 18, 2025 1:00 P.M.]

THIS IS THE DECEMBER 18TH HARTSDALE CONTEXTUAL REVIEW COMMITTEE.

UH, WE HAVE THREE MATTERS CASES, 25 0 4 2 14 EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, MECADO SUSHI 25 3, WHICH IS 1 9 9 EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, AND THAT'S PER AND PAW PET SUPPLY.

AND THEN LASTLY, UH, 25 0 2, WHICH IS 1 8 1 EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, HARTS BURY DAILY.

SO I'D LIKE TO WELCOME OUR GUESTS, THE APPLICANTS, AND APPRECIATE ALL OF OUR MEMBERS BEING ON BOTH HERE IN PERSON AND ON ZOOM.

AND WE WILL START WITH, UH, MECADO SUSHI.

AND MICHAEL, WELCOME.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO LEAD US OFF WITH A BRIEF OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSAL.

YEAH, LET ME SHARE THE SCREEN.

UH, SO CAN EVERYBODY SEE THE SCREEN THAT SAYS CARDO RIGHT NOW? YES, WE CAN.

YES, WE CAN.

WONDERFUL.

SO LET ME, OKAY.

THERE'S, CAN YOU SEE THE SWITCH OF THE PAGES AS WELL? YES.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO, UM, RELATIVELY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

UM, AND, AND LET ME START WITH THE PLACEMENT, BECAUSE THE PLACEMENT HAS AN IMPACT ON, ON THE SIGNAGE ITSELF.

I MEAN, EVERYBODY OBVIOUSLY KNOWS THE, THE LOCATION, UM, AND, UH, UH, YOU SEE THAT, UH, UM, THERE IS RELATIVELY LIMITED SPACE ABOVE THOSE ARCHED WINDOWS TO, TO PLACE A SIGN.

SO, UH, THE, THE PLACEMENT, UH, THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN, UM, IS, UH, IS THE SAME THAT THE PREVIOUS, UH, TENANT HAD.

THE, THE BAKERY AGAIN, UH, FOR, FOR LIMITATIONS IN TERMS OF, OF ANY SPACE.

THE SIGN, YOU SEE THE DIMENSIONS, UH, 48 INCHES WIDE, SEVEN FEET AND ABOUT 20 INCHES TALL.

UM, AND, UH, UM, WHEN I GO BACK NOW, OOPS, TO, UH, THE DETAILS HERE, YOU SEE THE LETTERS MECADO ARE, UH, 10 INCHES TALL ON A 10 INCH, UH, BACKGROUND.

THE WAY WE ARE PLANNING TO FABRICATE THE SIGN IS WHAT WE CALL A PUSH THROUGH, UM, WITH ILLUMINATION.

SO PUSH THROUGH MEANS WE ARE BUILDING A BLACK AND BLACK.

I'M REFERRING TO THE, TO THE 84 BY 20 BACK PANEL, WHICH IS ABOUT TWO TO, YEAH, TWO INCH DEEP BOX THAT HOLDS ALL THE WIRING.

THE FACE OF THAT BLACK, UH, UH, BOX IS ROUTED, MEANING THE LETTERS MECADO ARE CUT OUT OF THAT MATERIAL.

AND THEN IN THE BACK WE PUT AN ACRYLIC SHEET THAT, UH, HAS, AGAIN, THE, THE NEGATIVE, SO TO SPEAK, ROUTED OUT MIKADO.

AND THEN WE CAN PUSH THROUGH THE ACRYLIC, THE PART THAT IS ROUTED AND, UH, SHOWING THE LETTERS THROUGH THIS PHASE ABOUT HALF AN INCH OUT.

UM, AND THEN WE PUT SOME GOLD VINYL ON TOP.

AND WHAT THAT DOES IN THE END IS IF YOU NOW ILLUMINATE THIS SIGN WITH LEDS THAT ARE IN THAT BLACK LITTLE BOX, UH, THAT MEANS THAT THE LIGHT IS SHINING OUT ON THE SIDES OF THE HALF INCH THICK ACRYLIC.

SO IT GIVES A, A NICE HALO.

AND THE GOLD IS, IS, IS SLIGHTLY, SLIGHTLY ILLUMINATED, BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S NOT COMPLETELY OPAQUE.

UM, IT'S A SLIGHTLY TRANSLUCENT MATERIAL, UH, SO THAT YOU HAVE A, A GOLD APPEARING FACE OF THOSE LETTERS.

BUT SINCE THESE LETTERS ARE DIMENSIONAL AND STICK OUT ABOUT A HALF AN INCH OFF THE BACKGROUND PANEL, YOU HAVE THIS HALO BECAUSE THE LIGHT IS COMING OUT, UM, AT THE EDGES OF THOSE LETTERS.

THAT'S WHAT WE CALL A PUSH THROUGH.

AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S A, UH, UM, A METAL, UM, RACEWAY BOX, UM, THAT IS PAINTED BLACK, UM, AND, UH, HAS WHAT WE CALL ACRYLIC PUSH THROUGH LETTERS THAT ARE ILLUMINATED, UM, AND GIVE THAT HALO EFFECT.

AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH IT.

SO RELATIVELY COMMON.

SO DO THEY, ARE, ARE THE LETTERS PREFABRICATED AND THEY JUST HAPPEN TO FIT INTO THE SPACES THAT YOU'RE CUTTING OUT OF THE BLACK BOX? NO, THEY, IT'S A, IT'S AN ACRYLIC SHEET, UH, THAT SITS ON THE INSIDE AND WE WILL ROUTE OUT, THE SHEET ITSELF IS ONE INCH THICK AND HALF INCH OF THAT WILL BE ROUTED OUT.

AND WHAT'S LEFT, UH, ARE THOSE LETTERS THAT THEN FIT INTO THE, UH, THE CUTOUTS OF THE, OF THE FACE? I GET IT.

I, OKAY.

SO THESE ARE NOT LIKE THE CHANNEL LETTERS THAT YOU MIGHT REFER TO INDIVIDUAL LETTERS THAT ARE SET ON TOP OF THE PANEL.

IT'S LITERALLY PUSHED THROUGH FROM THE INSIDE, AND ONLY THE

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PIECE THAT IS, THAT IS ROUTED, UH, UH, STICKS OUT ABOUT HALF AN INCH.

IS THERE A REASON YOU PREFER THIS METHOD? WELL, IT'S, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE SIZING, TO BE HONEST.

UH, UM, IT'S A RELATIVELY SMALL SPACE.

IF YOU, IF YOU'RE TRYING TO BUILD THE, THE LETTERS MECADO IN CHANNEL LETTERS, WE WOULD HAVE TO DO A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT LAYOUT, BECAUSE THESE CHANNEL LETTERS NEED TO BE ABOUT HALF AN INCH, THREE QUARTERS OF AN INCH IN TERMS OF THE, THE STROKE WIDTH IN ORDER TO FIT THE, UH, UM, TO FIT THE, UH, UH, LED MODULES.

UM, AND AGAIN, WITH LETTERS THAT SIZE, IT'S, IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

SO THE RESULT WOULD BE A VERY BULKY LETTER.

UH, I MEAN, THIS IS A, IS A VERY, UH, UH, ELEGANT WAY OF, OF, UH, BUILDING ILLUMINATED SCIENCE.

UH, WHILE THE, UH, UM, THE SURFACE IS RELATIVELY SMALL, IT LOOKS NICE.

I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT'S MORE DURABLE OR LESS DURABLE THAN IT HAS? NO, WE, WE, WE USE IT ALL THE TIME.

UM, I MEAN ALL, ALL THE TIME AND MAYBE DO OTHERS AS WELL, BUT, UH, WE HAVE DONE IT BEFORE.

IT'S, IT'S AS DURABLE FOR EXTERIOR APPLICATIONS AS ANY OTHER, UH, UH, WAY OF FABRICATING DESIGN A.

AND IS IT YOU, YOU BELIEVE IT'S BEST IF YOU HAVE THEM, THE LETTERS SPACED THE WAY YOU HAVE IT, AS OPPOSED TO HAVING A LITTLE BIT MORE SPREAD OUT AND GO TOWARDS THE SIDE? WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY THIS, UH, THIS FUND WORKS.

I MEAN, WE DIDN'T MANIPULATE THIS.

SO IF, IF YOU USE THAT FUND, UH, AND WRITE THE WORD MECADO, THEN THAT'S WHAT, UH, UM, WHAT YOU GET.

YES.

OKAY.

AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING BEFORE US IS A SIGN.

MICHAEL, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE, UH, STOREFRONT FACADE? CAN YOU SPEAK TO ANY OTHER ELEMENTS THAT, OR THE OWNER I SEE FOR MECADO THAT THEY INTEND TO, UH, DO TO THE SPACE, IF ANY? LIKE THE AWNINGS, ANYTHING ABOUT THE AWNINGS, RIGHT.

CAN, CAN, UH, CAN YOU SPEAK TO, TO ANYTHING ELSE, UH, ON YOUR, ON YOUR STOREFRONT, DO WE LOSE THEM, PARTICULARLY THE AWNINGS AND THE ONE THAT'S TO THE RIGHT? YEAH.

WHAT'S GOING ON THERE, , BUT I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO CLARIFY ONE THING.

IF THE PUSH THROUGH LETTERS ARE, IF, IF THE LETTERS ARE CUT OUT IN BLOCK AND ARE THEY THE ONES THAT ARE BEING PUSHED THROUGH, OR THAT'S COMPLETELY TAKEN OUT, AND THEN THIS WHOLE PROCESS HAPPENS TO MAKE THEM GOLD, THAT BLACK IS COMPLETELY TAKEN OUT.

SO YOU, YOU HAVE A, YOU HAVE CUTOUTS AND THEN YOU HAVE ACRYLIC THAT'S GONNA PUSH THROUGH.

GOT IT.

WHICH IS A CLEAR MILKY MATERIAL.

YES.

GOT IT.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM .

THE GENTLEMAN WITH THE EY, UH, IS THE, GOING TO BE THE OWNER OPERATOR OF MEDO.

I'M SORRY, YOUR NAME AGAIN, SIR? NO, FOR, I'M, I'M FROM THE, FOR THE PET SUPPLY STORE.

SO THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.

I DIDN'T, OKAY.

I DIDN'T THINK THAT THE OWNER, UH, FOR, FOR MECADO IS THAT MICHAEL, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, THEY WERE NOT AVAILABLE.

I, TO BE HONEST, I DON'T KNOW, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE, WE SPOKE TO THEM YESTERDAY AND, AND CLARIFIED THAT IT WOULD BE BETTER IF, IF HE, IF HE WOULD BE HERE, UH, TO, UH, TO ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO THE SIGN.

UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, WE ARE PURELY A SIGN COMPANY.

I CANNOT SPEAK TO ANY, TO ANY, UH, UM, UNDERSTOOD CONSTRUCTION OR, OR ANY OTHER THINGS.

YEAH, UNDERSTOOD MICHAEL.

THANK YOU.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS JUST DOCUMENT ANY QUESTIONS THAT, UM, THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAVE, INCLUDING WHAT WILL OR WILL NOT HAPPEN WITH THE AWNING AND PERHAPS OTHERS.

AND THEN WE WILL RELAY THAT TO, UM, THE, THE, THE OPERATOR OF THE RESTAURANT, AND THEY'LL HAVE TO RETURN TO US WITH THAT INFORMATION.

UM, AND WHAT DO THEY SEE, YOU KNOW, ON THE WINDOWS, IN THE WINDOWS OR WHATEVER.

YEAH.

I MEAN, GARRETT, IF YOU GIVE ME, UH, UH, 30 SECONDS, I MEAN, I HAVE HIS PHONE NUMBER.

I CAN SEE IF, IF, IF HE IS AROUND OR IF HE PICKS UP THE PHONE AND, AND TELL HIM, HEY, IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE YES.

WHAT WE TOLD HIM YESTERDAY.

, UH, GO AHEAD.

30 SECONDS.

GO FOR IT, .

YEAH.

OTHERWISE IT'S GONNA GET ADJOURNED.

YEAH.

AND GARRETT, COULD YOU INCLUDE IN THE QUESTIONS, WHAT IS THAT BLOCK PANEL IN THE LAST WINDOW? YEAH, THAT'S ACTUALLY, UH, I'M LOOKING AT THE GOOGLE MAPS VERSION THAT'S ACTUALLY, UH, THERE ON THE, UH, PREVIOUS ENRICO'S.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST BLACKED OUT BECAUSE OF, UM, UH, WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S JUST BLACKED OUT AND IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN FACING, THAT'S HERE WHERE MY CURSOR IS.

I DON'T, I DON'T SEE YOUR CURSOR.

YEP.

OH, OKAY.

ON THE, ON THE RIGHT, ON THE RIGHTMOST, UH, OF THE

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THREE WINDOW PANES ON THE RIGHTMOST SIDE.

ARMENIA, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

YEAH.

BUT I'M HOPING IT'S GLASS UNDER THERE.

THEY COULD JUST REMOVE WHATEVER THAT DECALING IS.

BUT IT, IT, IT'S NOT A DECAL.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY LIKE SOLID MATERIAL, SOLID METAL.

YEAH.

SOME, SOME KIND OF SOLID MATERIAL, BUT IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT.

UM, THAT WAS, IT'S ENRICO.

OKAY.

YEAH, IT'S ENRICO'S.

UH, MY QUESTION IS, AND AND AGAIN, I'M COMPARING 'CAUSE THEY HAVE ENRICO'S UP HERE, IT LOOKS LIKE THE SIGN, THE NEW MECADO SIGN IS THE SAME SIZE AS THE PREVIOUS ENRICO'S SIGN.

UM, JUST WANT TO GET CONFIRMATION ON THAT.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE, UH, INDICATED, BUT WE'LL, UH, OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT HE SAID.

YEAH, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THE BLACK PANELING LINES UP WITH A COUNTERTOP THAT'S INSIDE THE REC, INSIDE THE STOREFRONT.

SO IT'S PROBABLY JUST THE WAY THAT THE, THE COUNTERTOP CAN I HAVE A C SCREEN OR SOMETHING? RIGHT.

OKAY.

UH, GARRETT, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION REGARDING THE, THE OWNING.

SO HOW DOES IT LOOK LIKE WHEN THE, THE OWNING IS OPEN AND DO THEY HAVE ANY SIGNS ON THAT ONE? THE, YEAH, WE'RE GONNA NEED CLARIFICATION ON THAT.

IT LOOKS ALMOST AS IF THE AWNINGS HAVE BEEN LIKE PARTIALLY DECOMMISSIONED.

IT'S HARD FOR ME TO TELL FROM THIS VANTAGE POINT ON THE SCREEN.

UM, YEAH, JUST THOSE AWNINGS ARE LEFT OVER AGAIN FROM ENRICO'S.

UH, SO YEAH, WE'D WANNA GET CLARIFICATION WHETHER THEY'RE GONNA BE REMOVED COMPLETELY.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU FOR, WHAT DOES IT SAY? BREAD, CHEESE, BREAD CHEESE AND SMOKED FISH.

FISH.

WE'LL BE DOING SMOKED FISH AT THE SUSHI PLACE, BUT ONLY THAT NOT THE BREAD.

SO, SO THAT, OKAY.

SO I SEE MICHAEL'S BACK ALSO.

SORRY.

ALSO, I THINK, UH, OH, HE IS JUST A SECOND.

I THINK FIRE DEPARTMENT REQUIRES A IDENTIFICATION OF THE LOCATION, SO THE NUMBER OR SOMETHING THAT HAS TO BE DISPLAYED CLEARLY, LIZ CAN PROBABLY TELL US, UH, YEAH, THE NUMBER IS DISPLAYED OVER THE DOOR.

CURRENT, CURRENTLY IN GOLD, IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, GOLD LETTERS OVER THE DOOR.

UM, IT WOULD BE RECOMMENDED THAT IT'S MADE MORE PROMINENT, PROMINENT FROM OF EIGHT STROKE, UM, LETTERING FROM, SO IT'S EASY TO SEE FROM THE STREET.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO IT LOOKS LIKE THAT IT WOULD BE COVERED WHEN THE AWNING IS OUT.

AGREED.

I CAN'T, THE, THE, THE ENRICO'S AWNING ACTUALLY SHOWS, UH, THE 2 1 4 BUILDING NUMBER ON IT AS WELL.

SO IT WOULD BE BOTH ON THE DOOR AND ON THE AWNING.

BUT AGAIN, THAT'S AN OLD AWNING AND WE WOULD EXPECT THAT TO BE REMOVED.

SO WE, THE QUESTION IS, WHAT'S, WHAT'S, IS THAT GONNA BE REMOVED AND NO AWNING? IS THERE A NEW AWNING GOING IN? WE NEED TO GET CLARIFICATION FROM THE OWNER ON THAT.

SO THE OWNER, THE OWNER JUMP, LET'S PICK, YOU'RE ON THE JONAH, THE, THE JONAH , THE OWNER IS JUMPING ON.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD SEE HIM ANY SECOND.

UH, UM, OKAY, GREAT.

SO, UH, I THINK THAT'S BENEFICIAL FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED RATHER THAN GOING BACK AND FORTH.

OKAY.

I COULD SOMETHING ON THE CLA.

SO MICHAEL, IS THERE GOING TO BE ANY OTHER, UH, SORT OF LIGHTING ON THE SIGN, OR IT'LL BE ALL SELF ILLUMINATED FROM BEHIND, THAT'S ALL SELF ILLUMINATED, INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED? YES.

THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL LIGHTING NECESSARY.

OKAY.

AND, AND IT REPLICATES THE PREVIOUS SIGNS PRETTY MUCH THE SIZE AND MORE OR LESS, YEAH, A FEW INCHES, BUT, UH, BUT YES.

UH, WAS THERE ANY, ANY KIND OF IDEA THAT THE, THE SIGN ENDS MAY BE CURVED TO REFLECT THE ARCHES OR SOMETHING, OR IT BECOMES MORE COMPLICATED AND EXPENSIVE? YOU MEAN AROUND THE CORNERS? CORRECT.

YEAH.

INSTEAD OF LIKE A VERY, YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S UNFORTUNATELY, YEAH, NO, HARD TO MAKE.

I MEAN, EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S ADDING, I MEAN, IT, THIS IS, IT'S A QUITE, UH, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S NOT THE CHEAPEST WAY OF MAKING A SIGN.

SO YOU WOULD ADD EVEN, UH, ADDITIONAL COST.

YEAH, I, I SEE THE EXTRA, UM, ADDED GUEST HERE.

UH, YOU SHOW BENLEY ON THE ZOOM.

WE WANNA WELCOME YOU, SIR, AND WE APPRECIATE YOU INVESTING IN THE TOWN WITH YOUR NEW RESTAURANT.

OKAY.

UM, THERE WAS A COUPLE QUESTIONS.

UH, AND SO BY THE WAY, PLEASE INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

HI, I AM STEVEN.

DO THE OWNER OF THE ALTA, THOUGH.

WELCOME STEVEN.

HI.

SO WE HAD GONE THROUGH THE SIDE AND, AND, AND MICHAEL, A GREAT JOB EXPLAINING THAT, UH, THERE WAS A COUPLE QUESTIONS THAT REMAINED.

I'M JUST GOING TO, UH, RELAY THEM TO YOU NOW, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY RESPONSES FOR US, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

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OKAY.

UM, DOES, DO YOU INTEND TO HAVE ANY LETTERING OR ANYTHING ON THE, THE WINDOW FACADES IS ONE QUESTION.

NO, UH, THE NUMBER, UH, THAT IS IN THE SCREEN NOW, IT, IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S TUCKED, UH, UNDER THE AWNING.

AND WELL, MAYBE THIS QUESTION WILL BE ANSWERED BY VIRTUE OF MY NEXT AWNING QUESTION, BUT, UM, ULTIMATELY IT'S OBSCURED BY THE AWNING.

UM, LET'S GO THERE.

UH, THESE OLD AWNINGS, DO YOU INTEND TO TAKE THEM OFF AND REPLACE THEM WITH NEW AWNINGS, OR, OR DID YOU INTEND TO HAVE NO AWNINGS? UH, I'M NOT SURE THOUGH.

SORRY, WHAT'S THE QUESTION AGAIN? THERE? I WAS CONFUSING THERE.

I'M SORRY.

UH, IF YOU COULD STOP SHARE MICHAEL JACE, IF YOU, OH, YOU'RE NOT ON THE ZOOM THERE.

I'M GONNA BRING UP A STREET VIEW.

UH, SO THERE'S AWNINGS THAT ROLL OUT, UH, AND THEY, THEY ROLL OUT AND PROTRUDE INTO THE SIDE.

OH, WE, WE GONNA, WE WE DO IT THERE.

SORRY.

WE GONNA REPLACE THE NEW ONE THERE.

WE DO IT THOUGH.

YEP.

WE, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

SORRY, WHAT IS IT? WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT THE NEW AWNINGS ARE GOING TO LOOK LIKE.

THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE DO.

SO STEVEN, IF YOU COULD, UM, WORK WITH MICHAEL OR SOMEONE ELSE, WE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UH, LIKE WILL THE AWNINGS BE OF A SIMILAR SIZE AND, YOU KNOW, ARE THEY GONNA BE ONE COLOR OR IS THERE GONNA BE VARIETY? UH, AND WHAT, WHAT THEY WOULD SAY ON THEM, IF ANYTHING? UM, SORRY.

UH, WE, THE ONLY THING WE'RE GONNA PUT ON JUST A SIGN THOUGH, SORRY.

UH, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHICH AWNING COME FROM THERE.

ARE THERE AWNINGS ON THE BUILDING? NOT THAT I KNOW THOUGH.

THERE ARE TODAY, OR AT LEAST THEY WERE PART OF THE OLD ENRICO'S, UH, BAKERY.

SO ARE THOSE AWNINGS REMOVED OR, AND, AND GONE FOR GOOD, OR WILL THEY BE REPLACED BY NEW AWNINGS REFLECTING THE MECADO BUSINESS? UH, I THINK GARRETT, IT MIGHT HELP IF YOU HAVE A STREET VIEW WITH THANKS.

I AGREE.

UH, KURT, I'M GONNA SHARE IN JUST A MOMENT HERE.

OKAY.

THANKS.

OR SO JAY, WERE YOU ON GOOGLE? SO I THINK YOU GOOGLE MAPS.

GO TO THE LEFT? NO, GO TO SEYMOUR DATES IN THE TOP LEFT.

OH, , UH, OH.

GO BACK TO LIKE 20.

KEEP SCROLLING DOWN.

UH, JUST HIT THAT ARROW RIGHT HERE.

YEAH, THAT'S A GOOD ONE.

THERE'S A, THAT'S GOING RIGHT THERE.

OH, NOPE, I LOST IT.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

NO, THERE YOU GO.

THAT'S GOOD.

OKAY, I'M GONNA SHARE SCREEN, UH, STEVEN, AND WE'LL GET YOUR INPUT THERE.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS THE AWNING, UH, THAT PREVIOUSLY EXISTED.

AND THE QUESTION IS, UH, DO YOU INTEND TO FULLY REMOVE THAT OR PUT YOUR OWN CUSTOMIZED AWNING IN THERE? UM, WE PROBABLY GONNA REMOVE THIS AND PUT A NEW ONE THOUGH.

EXACTLY THE SAME SIZE.

EVERYTHING THE SAME, JUST WITH DIFFERENT NAMES THOUGH.

OKAY.

YEP.

YOU INTENDED, ESSENTIALLY WHAT COLOR DID, DID YOU HAVE IN MIND? UM, PROBABLY, UH, WE HAVEN'T, WE HAVEN'T DECIDED YET THOUGH.

YEAH, PROBABLY SAME, LIKE WHITE OR BLUE THOUGH.

OKAY.

WE'LL WORK WITH YOU AFTER THIS MEETING TO GET SOMETHING, UH, RENDERED UP.

UH, BUT IT, IT'LL BE THE SAME SIZING IN THERE.

YEP, EXACTLY THE SAME SIZE.

THAT'S HELPFUL TO HAVE THE CONSISTENT SIZE UNDERSTANDING.

OH, AND THEN, UH, UH, UH, MICHAEL, COULD YOU SHARE AGAIN, UM, WE HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE LOWER RIGHT WINDOW.

UH, IT APPEARS THAT THERE'S, UH, BLACK IN THE WINDOW FACADE, PERHAPS WHERE THE COUNTER WAS.

BUT, UH, MICHAEL, IF YOU COULD SHARE SCREEN THERE AND, UH, MOVE MY CURSOR OVER THAT.

SO THIS HERE, UH, BASED ON YOUR NEW BUSINESS AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING ON THE INSIDE, UH, IS THIS INTENDED TO BE REPLACED, UH, TO A FULL WINDOW? THIS IS A WAY WE, THIS IS A FULL WINDOW THOUGH.

YEAH.

SO THAT WILL BE MODIFIED.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S A VERY FULL WINDOW THOUGH, I BELIEVE.

OKAY.

YEAH.

UH, AN UPDATED PHOTOGRAPH WOULD BE GOOD.

YEAH.

YEAH.

I'LL UPDATE ONE.

YEP.

ALL RIGHT.

SO WE'RE GONNA GET CLARIFICATION ON THE AWNING.

MM-HMM .

UM, UH, A MORE RECENT SHOT AND VERIFICATION THAT THE WINDOW WILL BE RESTORED IF IT HASN'T.

AND, UM, THE SIGN IS THE COMMITTEE GENERALLY, UH, PLEASED WITH THE SIGN AESTHETIC? UH, YEAH, THE SIGN AESTHETIC.

AND WHO IS GONNA MAKE, MICHAEL, YOU GONNA MAKE THIS, THE OWNING AND THE SIGNAGE ON IT? SO, SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE MAKING THE SIGN, UH, AS, AS STEVE SAID, UH, I DON'T THINK IT HAS BEEN FINALIZED.

WHAT

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TYPE OF AWNING WILL BE THERE? SO FOR RIGHT NOW, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SIGN, AND AS GARY JUST SAID, OBVIOUSLY, UH, STEVE HAS TO PROVIDE THE DETAILS ONCE THEY ARE AVAILABLE ABOUT THE, THE, UH, THE AWNINGS.

OKAY.

AND, AND LIZ, YOUR, YOU, YOUR OPINION IS IT'S, UH, CODE COMPLIANT THE SIGN, CORRECT? CORRECT.

RIGHT.

IT ACTUALLY LOOKS A, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN THE EN RICOH SIGN AND, AND AT LEAST IN DIMENSIONS, BUT, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE HAPPY WITH THAT DIMENSION, I'M, I'M FINE WITH IT.

I HAVE ISSUES WITH US.

UH, THEY CAN'T REALLY APPROVE A FACADE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN.

AND YOU'RE CHANGING THE AWNINGS, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING WITH THE BLACK, UH, RECTANGLE THERE ON THE RIGHT, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.

UM, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO HAVE THE ACTUAL STREET NUMBER THAT'S MORE VISIBLE.

IF YOU HAVE IT ON THE AWNING, THAT'S GREAT.

BUT WHEN YOU RETRACT THE AWNING, LIKE YOU SEE HERE, YOU DON'T SEE THE NUMBERS.

SO I THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE THE ACTUAL STREET ADDRESS NUMBER, UM, ON, ON THE DOORS, RIGHT? ABOUT WHERE YOU HAVE THE, UH, THE DOORS OR SOMEWHERE.

WE DEFINITELY GONNA PUT THE NUMBERS JUST ON NUMBERS ON THE DOOR DOWN, LIKE TWO, ONE, UM, 2 1 4 ON THE GLOUCESTER TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW THE ADDRESS.

YEAH, THAT'S CORRECT.

EITHER RIGHT HERE OR, OR UP HERE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

I THINK WE NEED YOU TO WORK ALL THOSE THINGS OUT AND THEN GO BACK TO US.

BUT IN THE MEANTIME, I THINK YOU HAVE A DIRECTION AS TO WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

UNLESS ANYBODY HAS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE FROM ME.

UH, I ACTUALLY DO LIKE THE SIGN.

I THINK IT LOOKS VERY NICE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY, SO THANKS STEVE.

WE'LL COORDINATE WITH YOU AFTER THIS MEETING, UM, AS WELL AS WITH MICHAEL.

UH, MICHAEL, UH, DO YOU, JUST CURIOUS, DO YOU DO THE AWNING RENDERINGS OR DO YOU DO THE AWNING DESIGN, OR IS THAT NOT YOU? WELL, WE, WE DO AWNINGS.

I MEAN, STEVE AND I HAVE NOT SPOKEN ABOUT THAT YET.

I MEAN, HE'S OBVIOUSLY FREE TO USE ANY VENDOR.

HE, HE, HE WANTS, UH, UM, I MEAN, WE WILL TAKE THIS, I GUESS, UH, OFFLINE AND, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT THIS LATER, STEVE, AS I SAID, COMPLETELY UP TO YOU, .

THANKS FOR YOUR TIME.

STEVEN, ONE MORE QUESTION.

THANK YOU.

THE DESIGN IS ILLUMINATED.

HOW IS POWER PROVIDED TO THE SIGN? IS THERE POWER RIGHT BEHIND THE SIGN RIGHT NOW OR, YES.

THERE IS POWER THOUGH, RIGHT BEHIND THE SIGN.

YES.

SO THERE'LL BE NO CONDUIT RUNNING UP OUR SIDE AND DOWN THE BUILDING.

YEAH.

UM, 'CAUSE THERE COULD BE POWER THERE THOUGH.

YEP.

TERRIFIC.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

WAS THE ENRICO SIGN POWERED? YEAH.

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT? YOU CAN'T TELL.

THAT DOESN'T FORGET.

I, I, I DON'T THINK SO.

I DON'T THINK SO.

THAT'S, THE ENRICO SIGN WAS OBVIOUSLY, AS FAR AS I KNOW, IT WAS JUST A, A METAL PANEL WITH A, WITH A LOADING.

BUT I MEAN, LE WIRING FROM A PREVIOUS SIGN OR THERE, THERE FOR, FOR THE OLD ENRICO SIGN, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS, UM, ELEC ELECTRICAL CONDUIT ON THAT CENTER COLUMN, AND THERE WAS A SPOTLIGHT ABOUT 18 INCHES BELOW THE SIGN THAT SHONE A LIGHT ON THE ENRICO SIGN.

YEP, IT DID.

OKAY.

I MEAN, I HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT, SO, YEAH, BUT, BUT YOU, BUT IN THIS CASE, YOU, IT TURN POWER DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT SIGN AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE CONDUIT MUCH EASIER THOUGH TO INSTALL THERE.

YEAH, THAT WAS KIND OF A YES OR NO QUESTION.

, ARE YOU SURE THAT THAT THE SIGN IS THE SIGN UP NOW? IS THE RICO STILL UP OR YOU TOOK THAT DOWN? UH, I, I'LL DOUBLE CHECK THOUGH 'CAUSE I'M NOT, I THINK WE, WE REMOVED IT THOUGH.

UH, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU ON THE EMAIL NOW.

SORRY.

BUT I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR THAT THERE'S POWER THAT'S GONNA COME DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT SIGN AND YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RUN CONDUIT UP IF THAT'S, THAT'S NOT ATTRACTIVE.

I THINK THERE IS POWER THOUGH, FROM MY GC THOUGH.

UM, WE ASKED ABOUT IT NOW.

YEAH, THERE IS POWER THOUGH.

OKAY.

SO IF YOU COULD CONFIRM THAT SO THAT WHEN YOU PUT THAT ON A PLAN, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.

OKAY.

THANKS STEVE AND, UM, APPRECIATE IT.

SO MICHAEL, IF YOU COULD STOP SHARE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT APPLICATION, UH, PER AND PAUL PET SUPPLY.

THANK YOU.

HAVE A GOOD ONE.

ALL RIGHT, YOU TOO.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR SALE.

OKAY, WELCOME TO THE, UH, PER AND PET PAW PET SUPPLY APPLICANT AND APPLICATION.

UH, SIR, YOUR NAME AGAIN? YEAH, MY NAME IS EMAD.

HERE.

CAN YOU SPELL THAT PLEASE? EMAD

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AND THEN YIA, THAT'S Y-E-H-I-Y-A.

OKAY, WELCOME.

AND ALSO, THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR INVESTMENT IN THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.

AND, UH, WE WANNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU AND OR, UH, MICHAEL TO, TO JUST WALK US THROUGH THE SIGN THAT YOU HAVE PROPOSED AND THE PROPOSAL.

OKAY.

GIVE A SECOND.

UH, HERE.

BACK SHARE.

SO WHAT ARE YOU TELLING ME? NO, I CAN'T STAY LIKE THAT, CARLOS.

OKAY.

YES.

CAN WE CAN SEE IT? YEP.

CAN YOU, CAN YOU SEE IT? YES, SIR.

YEP.

WE CAN SEE, RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO IN THIS CASE, LET ME START AGAIN WITH THE EXISTING SITUATION.

SO, UH, THAT IS THE SPACE, UM, AT 1 99 EAST HARTSDALE.

NO WAY.

AND, UH, AND, UH, UH, THERE IS CURRENTLY FROM THE PREVIOUS OWNER A, UH, SIGNED CABINET ON THE, ON THE BUILDING, UH, IN THESE DIMENSIONS, 48 BY 24.

AND, UH, UM, THESE PANELS, UH, SORRY.

AND, UH, THIS SIGN WILL REMAIN, THE ONLY THING THAT WE ARE, UH, THAT WE ARE PLANNING IS TO, UM, REPLACE THE SIGN FACE, WHICH IS AN ACRYLIC PANEL WITH VINYL GRAPHICS IN THE DIMENSIONS 48 BY 24 4.

UM, AND THESE ARE THE GRAPHICS, WHICH IS THE, THE COMPANY NAME PER AND PAUL PETCO.

UM, SO AS I SAID, IT'S JUST A, UH, AN ACRYLIC PANEL TRANSLUCENT, UH, THAT WILL BE, UH, UM, IT IN THIS SIGNED CABINET THAT EXISTS WITH THIS CURRENT NAME.

SO WE CALL THIS A, UM, SIMPLE REASE OF AN EXISTING SIGN.

AND IS THERE POWER DIRECTLY BEHIND THAT SIGN TO ILLUMINATE IT? THIS IS AN INTERNALLY ILLUMINATED SIGN BOX.

UM, THERE, THERE'S CENT, UH, TUBES IN THERE.

SO WE ARE NOT TOUCHING ANY OF THESE.

I MEAN, IF THE, IF THE, WE KNOW THAT THE, THE BOX IS IN, IN, IN GOOD SHAPE, UH, AND IN WORKING ORDER.

SO, UH, I MEAN MAYBE THE, UH, UH, THE, UH, FLUORESCENT, UH, LIGHT HAS TO BE REPLACED, THE, THE TUBE JUST BECAUSE OF H BUT THERE'S NO OTHER, UH, REPAIR NECESSARY AND IT WILL BE THEN ETERNALLY ILLUMINATED.

YES.

I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE BUSINESS.

ARE YOU SELLING CATS AND DOGS OR JUST PET SUPPLIES? NO, WE'RE DOING PET SUPPLIES.

SO LIKE GENERAL PET SUPPLIES FOCUSING ON, ON, YOU KNOW, PET UH, DOGS, CATS, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S, THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S MISSING IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.

THERE IS THE HOSPITAL RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

THERE'S A GREAT POTENTIAL THERE.

SO, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WANTED TO BRING SOMETHING DIFFERENT TO THE, UM, TO THE TOWN.

SO MY ONLY COMMENT HAD BEEN, I THINK WHEN MATT HAD ISSUED IT FOR THE FIRST TIME THAT THE GOING TO AN ARIEL LETTERING ON PETCO AND SHORT, I MEAN, IS THAT THE WAY YOUR COMPANY NAME IS WRITTEN PETCO INSTEAD OF PET COMPANY OR PET SUPPLIES? IT'S, IT'S JUST LIKE, IT'S, UH, VE LIKE, HAS TO BE THE SAME AS THE CORPORATION NAME? IT DOES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

SO THE CORPORATION NAME IS IN A CERTAIN WAY, IT'S FROM, IN NEW YORK STATE, WHEN YOU OPEN LIKE THE TA TAX ID AND AN ACCOUNT WITH THEM, THEN THAT'S THE NAME THEY GIVE YOU.

AND THEN THAT'S HOW YOU PUT ON THE SIGN JUST TO BE, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE LEGALLY EVERYTHING IS GOOD, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE ARE DOING.

I, I JUST THINK THE AERIAL LETTERING ON PETCO TAKES AWAY FROM THE PER AND THE POOR.

I MEAN, IF YOU USE THE SAME FONT, UH, MAKE THE LETTERS A LITTLE BIT SMALLER TO AGREE WITH IT.

I, I JUST LOOK AT IT LOOKS A LITTLE, UM, YEAH, IT LOOKS A LITTLE DATED BEFORE IT EVEN GETS UP.

THAT, THAT'S JUST WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO LIKE, THAT, THAT CALL WOULD BE LIKE, IS BETTER IF WE REMOVE IT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU WANNA SAY? OR JUST MAKE IT SMALLER IN TERMS OF THE FONTS? UH, I, UH, SMALLER AND MAYBE, UH, SHOULD AGREE MORE WITH THE FONT OF PER, PER AND PI JUST THINK THE TWO FONTS JUST DON'T GO THE FONT TYPE.

OKAY.

MICHAEL, I'M LISTENING.

YEAH, LIKE IF, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, IF THAT'S AN ISSUE WE COULD DO, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT JUST MAKE THE SAME FUND.

YOU CAN MAKE IT THE SAME FUND.

YEAH.

EDGE OF THE CHROME.

SO THE ONLY THING THAT, UH, I HAVE, I WOULD SAY IS THAT PER AND PAUL CANNOT BECOME BIGGER, RIGHT? BECAUSE YOU SEE, IT'S, IT'S ALREADY PRETTY MUCH, UH, UH, FILLING

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THE ENTIRE RIGHT.

HORIZONTAL SPACE, RIGHT? I MEAN, I CANNOT MAKE HER AND FAR LARGER.

NO, THAT LOOKS GOOD.

IT LOOKS GOOD.

IT'S JUST, I THINK THE LETTERING BELOW IT TAKES AWAY FROM IT.

I, I GUESS WHAT, WAS THERE AN INTENTIONAL CHOICE TO HAVE A SERIF AND A AND A SANER FONT ON THE SAME SIGN? UH, YES.

I MEAN THIS, THIS IS, THIS IS THEIR LOGO AS WE, AS WE, AS WE USED IT.

YES.

YEAH.

UH, BUT I THINK FOLLOWING UP ON ARMENIA'S SUGGESTION, IF YOU CAN LOWER, IF YOU CENTER THE PO AND PO AND THEN HAVE A, UH, SAME FONT, WHICH IS SMALLER LATER AT THE BOTTOM.

SO, UH, IT LOOKS KIND OF, UH, NOT A VERY DATED WAY OF, UH, PUTTING YOUR COMPANY'S LOGO THERE SO IT LOOKS MORE ATTRACTIVE.

AND I AGREE WITH MANIA THAT, UH, THIS, THIS PET CALL LOOKS KIND OF OUT OF PLACE.

WE CAN, WE CAN, UM, YOU KNOW, IF I CAN ADD THERE, LIKE, IF, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE TOWN, LIKE WE CAN, UM, JUST BASICALLY JUST HAVE, YOU KNOW, JUST THE TOP WITHOUT HAVING THE PET CUT DOUGH.

YEAH.

LIKE WE CAN JUST NOT HAVE IT THERE.

JUST REMOVE IT.

THAT WOULD BE BEST TO CLARIFY FOR PEOPLE.

THEY LOOK AT YOUR SIGN, EVEN IF IT SAID PET SUPPLIES, IT WOULD AUTOMATICALLY TELL YOU WHAT THE STORE IS.

YEAH.

YOU KNOW, OTHERWISE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO START PUTTING SOMETHING.

WELL, THEY'RE GONNA SEE THE SUPPLIES IN THE WINDOW, BUT FROM THE LOOK OF IT NOW IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE GONNA BE SELLING CATS AND DOGS.

SO YOU THINK WE SHOULD ADD THE WORD SUPPLY SOMEWHERE? JUST MAYBE INSTEAD OF CO IF YOU DON'T HAVE TO USE THE EXACT CORPORATE NAME AND IT SAYS, YEAH.

PET SUPPLIES IN A SMALLER FONT AT THE BOTTOM, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE MUCH MORE SENSE FOR YOU.

OKAY.

UM, I, I'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, MICHAEL, I THINK WE'LL WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW UP WITH, UH, WITH THE TOWN, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF THEY'RE OKAY WITH NOT USING THE SAME CORPORATION NAME ON THAT THING, WE'LL WE'LL JUST SWITCH IT, UM, THE WAY IT IS WITH LIKE, PLEASE SUPPLIES.

YEAH.

IS LIZ ON HERE STILL? I MEAN, THAT WOULD BE IN THE END OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING THAT SHE, LIZ, IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE, UH, TO SAY PER AND POOR PET SUPPLIES, EVEN THOUGH I GUESS THE, THE LEGAL COMPANY NAME IS PER AND POOR PETCO? IS THAT AN ISSUE? NO, UH, IT'S NOT BECAUSE THE SIGN, UH, UNDER OUR SIGNED CODE ORDINANCE, AND I'M NOT SPEAKING TO NEW YORK STATE, UH, CORPOR CORPORATION LAW, UM, UNDER OUR SIGN CODE, THE SIGN HAS TO BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE USE OF THE BUSINESS.

SO THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE ACCEPTABLE.

OKAY.

I MEAN, I'M NOT AWARE, I MEAN, I CAN TALK ABOUT, UH, NEW YORK STATE.

I, I'M NOT AWARE THAT, UH, THAT STATE LAW REQUIRES, UH, NO, NO, NO, NO.

WE HAVE IMMEDIATE HAVE OTHER BUSINESSES.

YEAH.

I HAVE OTHER BUSINESSES LIKE OUT OUTSIDE, YOU KNOW, MANHATTAN AND COMPLETE, AND IT'S NOT, UH, IT'S NOT AN ISSUE.

SO YOU CAN PUT THE, YEAH.

DOESN'T MATTER THE CORPORATION NAME, AS LONG AS YOU HAVE INSIDE THE STORE WITH THE SIGN, IT'S, IT'S FINE AS LONG AS THEY APPLY WITH THE PERMIT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WE CAN CHANGE THIS TO PER AND PAUL PET SUPPLIES.

YES.

AND I MEAN, THAT WORD, PET SUPPLIES WILL AUTOMATICALLY NOW BECOME SMALLER BECAUSE IT'S MORE LETTERS TO FIT INTO THAT SPACE.

UH, SO, UH, IT, IT WILL AUTOMATICALLY LOOK SMALLER, BUT THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE YOU REALLY WANNA HAVE THE PUR AND POOR POP OUT AT YOU.

AND IF, YOU KNOW, ONCE YOU GET, YOU'RE GONNA GET THE ATTENTION WITH THE IMAGES ON THERE.

AND THEN OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE MIGHT JUST DRIVE BY NOT, NOT KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE SUPPLIES.

DO YOU GUYS LIKE THE COLORS SUPPLY, LIKE THE FONT? UM, I THINK IT'S, YOU KNOW, BLACK IS ALWAYS ATTRACTIVE IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, CATCH AND ICE AND, UM, I, I THINK IT LOOKS, IT LOOKS GOOD.

YEAH.

UH, BUT HOW THIS COLOR IS, UH, MICHAEL, IT'S A KIND OF A, UH, PRINTED ON IT OR, UH, YES.

YES.

THAT WOULD BE PRINTED SINCE IT'S SEVERAL COLORS.

UH, OTHERWISE WE PREFER TO, UH, TO CUT.

WE USE WHAT WE CALL CUT VINYLS OR PRE COLORED VINYL, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, UH, COLOR INTENSIVE COLORS ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE NATURAL ONCE WE ARE PRINTING COLORS LOOK A LITTLE BIT MORE WASHED OUT.

SO, UM, BUT, UH, UM, SINCE WE HAVE NOT JUST ONE COLOR HERE OR TWO THAT WE CAN, YOU KNOW, PUT TOGETHER IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE TO PRINT.

YES.

IS THE TEXT BLACK BECAUSE THE DESCRIPTION SAYS BROWN TEXT BROWN? YEAH.

IT IS A, IT IS A VERY DARK BROWN.

IT IS A VERY DARK BROWN.

IT IS NOT BLACK.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT BLACK.

SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE, THE, THE ORANGE, I MEAN, YELLOWISH ORANGE, DARK BEIGE FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, PUPPIES, UH, FOR THE CAT AND THE DOG, THE LIGHT BEIGE BACKGROUND.

AND THEN, UH, PER PART, THE NAME AND THE, THE OUTLINE OF, UH, THE, UH, THE ANIMALS IS A DARK BROWN.

IT'S NOT BLACK THAT WOULDN'T NECESSARILY

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FIT TO, TO THIS.

SO IT'S LIKE A LIC ON THE, ON THE ACRYLIC OR NO? YEAH, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A VINYL FILM, A PRINTED VINYL FILM ON TOP OF THE ACRYLIC.

YES.

AND HOW, HOW DURABLE IS THAT? I MEAN, EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE IN TOWN IS MADE LIKE THIS.

SO IT'S, IT'S VERY DURABLE AND DURABLE.

OKAY.

AND, AND IS THE, UH, SINCE YOU ARE REMOVING, UH, AND PUTTING, UH, WITH THE SORT OF A NEW, NEW LIGHT TECHNOLOGY WITH LED SIGN WILL MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN THE OLD FLUORESCENCE, WHICH KIND OF, UH, UH, NOT RELIABLE.

SOMETIMES , THE, THE ONE OR TWO TUBES GOES OUT AND, UH, SO I MEAN, IT'S, I MEAN, IF AS LONG AS THE, YOU, YOU'RE RIGHT, AS LONG AS THE, THE, UH, UH, FLUORESCENT TUBES ARE IN, IN WORKING ORDER, I MEAN, YOU BARELY SEE A DIFFERENCE.

I MEAN, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT TYPE OF LIGHTING SOURCE IS IN THE BACK.

UM, HOW YOU DOING? I MEAN, IF, IF THEY, UH, CLIENTS, I UNDERSTAND, BUT THEY'RE REPLACING THE, HOW THEY GONNA REPLACE THE TUBES? SORRY, SAY IT AGAIN.

HOW DO THEY REPLACE THE, THE, UH, THE FLUORESCENT FIXTURE TUBE TUBES? WELL, YOU OPEN UP THE BOX AND YOU TAKE OUT THE OH, SO THEY, OKAY, SO YOU TAKE OUT THE, THE WHOLE WHOLE, YEAH.

YOU HAVE BY TWO FEET.

YEAH.

YOU OPEN THE BOX, I MEAN, LIKE YOU WOULD WITH, IN YOUR BASEMENT, IF YOU HAVE FLUORESCENT TUBES.

I MEAN, IT'S EXACTLY THE SAME.

I MEAN, THERE ARE SOCK ON THIS MM-HMM .

CORRECT.

WHERE ARE THE FASTENERS? BECAUSE I DON'T SEE ANY FASTENERS OR IT'S A, UH, SOMETHING THAT YOU SWING OPEN OR, AND YOU IT'S A MOLDING, IT'S A MO IT'S A MOLDING.

WE REMOVE ONE MOLDING, THE MOST PROB USUALLY THE LEFT OR RIGHT MOLDING, AND THEN SLIDE IN AND OUT.

OKAY.

AND THEN WE PUT THE MOLDING BACK.

OKAY.

AS LONG IT'S, UH, NOT TAKING DOWN THE SIGN AND, AND IT'S NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.

OKAY.

MICHAEL, COULD YOU SHOW THE FRONT FACADE ONE MORE TIME? YEP.

YEP.

ANY WRITING IN THE WINDOWS INTENDED? AS FAR AS I KNOW, NOT THERE IS NO FURTHER, UH, SIGNAGE IN THE WINDOW.

BUSINESS HOURS, I MEAN, BUT THOSE ARE, I GUESS, UH, ALLOWED UNDER THE CODE.

UH, WHITE CUT VINYL ON THE DOOR WITH, AND I THINK A SQUARE FOOT OR SOMETHING LIKE THIS, 12 BY 12, JUST SAYING OPEN MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY OR WHATEVER IT IS, NINE TO FIVE, WHATEVER IT IS.

BUT THAT'S JUST CUT WHITE VINYL THAT EVERYBODY ELSE HAS IN THE DOORS.

WHAT ABOUT EARNINGS? I REFER TO THE OWNER.

I'M SORRY.

DO YOU, DO YOU PROPOSE AN AWNING? IT LOOKS LIKE? UH, NO.

NO.

I, WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP IT THIS WAY, YOU KNOW, UH, A SIMPLE SIGN AND ALSO WOULD LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE WHOLE, LIKE THE GLASS IN THE FRONT OF IT.

WE'LL, WE'LL LEAVE EVERYTHING VISIBLE TO THE CUSTOMER SINCE WE HAVE AN HOUR SPACE.

SO WE'LL LIKE TO HAVE EVERYTHING VISIBLE THAT PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, COME PASS BY AND SEE EVERYTHING, TO SEE ALL THE PRODUCTS INSIDE.

LEMME STREET NUMBER.

THE, THE STREET NUMBER.

SAY AGAIN? IT'S DOOR.

SO WHAT WE USUALLY DO IS IN THE DOOR.

YEAH.

THE TOP OF THE DOOR GETS THE STREET NUMBER AND SLIGHTLY BELOW, USUALLY EYE LEVEL OR BELOW GETS BUSINESS HOURS.

SO THE AWNINGS WOULD NOT BE THERE AS I UNDERSTAND, OR THE YEAH, NO, THERE'S NO AWNING HERE.

YEAH.

SO CAN YOU, CAN YOU SHOW US, HOW DOES THAT WHOLE THING LOOK LIKE? UH, YOU'RE SAYING THE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS ABOUT THE, THERE WAS AN AWNING.

WAS IT, IT WAS REMOVED.

I DON'T KNOW.

SO THIS WAS THE OLD, THIS WAS THE OLD REAL ESTATE OFFICE, RIGHT? YES.

AND, UH, THEY HAD A GREEN AWNING THAT MATCHED THE GREEN AROUND THE SIGN BOX.

AND I'M SURPRISED THEY REMOVED IT BECAUSE WE, THEY ONLY HAD SOMETHING WRITTEN ON THE FLAP.

THE FLAP COULD HAVE EASILY BEEN CHANGED, BUT IT SEEMS THAT THEY REMOVED THE WHOLE THING.

SO YOU'VE GOTTA HAVE AN AWNING TO YOUR LEFT, AN AWNING TO YOUR RIGHT.

UM, AND YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE NOT PROPOSING AN AWNING.

IF YOU ARE, WE NEED TO KNOW.

NO, NO.

SO NO AWNINGS, IT'S GONNA BE LIKE THAT.

YOU GONNA BE A SIGN.

THAT'S THE WAY THE SIMPLE SIGN, THE WAY IT USED TO BE.

AND FRONT WILL BE JUST, YOU KNOW, THE WAY IT IS, JUST GLASS OPEN WITH NOTHING ON IT, NO SHELVES.

UM, LIKE I SAID, JUST VISIBLE FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO, TO ACTUALLY SEE INSIDE.

SO WHAT MATERIAL IS THAT ABOVE IT? IT'S LIKE, UH, SOME KIND OF, UH, UH, METAL METAL PANEL OR

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WHERE, WHERE ON TOP OF THE WINDOWS WHERE USED TO BE OWNING? IT'S A, IT'S JUST MIDDLE.

YES.

USED TO BE OWN.

YEAH.

SO IT'S, UH, YEAH, IT'S ACTUALLY MIDDLE.

OKAY.

IT'D BE GOOD IF YOU CAN CLEAN UP AND PAINT IT SOMETHING.

SO YEAH, AT LEAST THAT BASE, AT LEAST AT THE BASE BY THE SIDEWALK, IT'S YEAH.

PRETTY BROKEN UP.

IF YOU THAT CAN BE REPAINTED.

THAT'S HELPFUL.

YEAH.

YEAH.

WE'LL DO THAT.

WE'LL GET THAT PAINTED.

WE'LL PICK A COLOR THAT'S GONNA BE SUITABLE WITH A SIGN, AND WE'LL HAVE THAT PAINTED.

YEAH, SAME THING ABOVE IT, I THINK IT SEEMS LIKE, UH, HOW ABOUT, HOW ABOUT PAINTING THE SIGN OF THE ANIMALS? THE COLOR OF THE ANIMALS? YEAH.

OH, LIKE THE COLOR.

OKAY.

YEAH.

VERY GOOD.

WE'LL ACTUALLY TAKE THAT INTO, INTO ACCOUNT.

SO WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, YEAH, PAINT THE FRONT AND MAYBE THE BOTTOM AS WELL.

SO JUST LIKE THE ROUND WHERE THE GLASS IS, LIKE BROKE IT UP THERE AT THE BOTTOM ON THE RIGHT, ON NEAR THE GROUND.

YEAH.

I THINK BE GOOD IF YOU CLEAN UP THE TOP OF IT.

AND IT SEEMS LIKE THERE IS SOME CONDUITS OR SOME METAL PANELS, SO, AND THERE IS A BRICK BEHIND IT, SO IF YOU MAKE IT A CLEAN LOOK GOOD, WHAT IS IT THAT'S ON THE RIGHT SIDE UNDERNEATH THE GLASS? IS THAT SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, IT'S SOME, SOME KIND OF A, UM, UM, VENT OR SOMETHING.

I CAN'T MAKE OUT WHAT THAT IS.

YEAH, I COULD GUESS.

YEAH, THOSE APPEAR TO BE SOME KIND OF PLUMBING, EITHER VENT PIPES OR OVERFLOW.

YEAH, IT WAS LIKE A VENT.

YES.

YEAH, THAT SEEMS LIKE THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.

FOR WHAT WE KNOW WHAT IT'S VENT FOR.

UH, I WOULD ASSUME IT JUST, I, I'M NOT TOO SURE IF THEY HAVE USED IT FOR ANYTHING FROM BEFORE, BUT YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT GONNA BE NEW.

SO IF THERE IS A WAY WE MIGHT, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT JUST LIKE REMOVE IT IF IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, NOT MAKE THINGS LOOK, UM, YOU KNOW, AS PERFECT.

IF THERE IS NO USE OF IT, WE, WE REMOVE IT.

I'M SORRY, I'M ASKING LIZ IF SHE HAS ANY IDEA WHAT THOSE MIGHT BE.

I MEAN, IS THERE AN OIL TANK IN THE BASEMENT OR SOMETHING THEY DO LOOK LIKE? NO, THEY, THEY'RE NOT FILLS FOR AN OIL TANK.

THEY'RE TOO SMALL.

UM, I'D HAVE TO GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK BECAUSE IF THEY'RE NOT NEEDED, THEY, THEY REALLY SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

IF THEY'RE JUST LEGACY FROM SOMETHING FROM, YOU KNOW, YEARS GONE BY.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IF THEY'RE NEEDED, THEY'RE NEEDED.

BUT IT WOULD BE NICE, IT WOULD BE A CLEANER LOOK IF YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO HAVE THOSE, YOU'D HAVE TO ACTUALLY GO INSIDE THE BUILDING TO FIND OUT WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY LEADING TO, IF ANYTHING.

ARE YOU GONNA KEEP THE DOORS AND EVERYTHING SAME? OR ARE YOU GONNA KIND OF NO, YEAH.

THIS, NO, NO, THE SAME.

THEY'RE, THEY'RE IN VERY GOOD CONDITION.

YEAH.

SO JUST LEAVE THEM THE SAME.

YEAH.

BECAUSE ON, ON NEIGHBOR ON YOUR BOTH SIDES LOOKS LIKE HAVE A MORE RECENT YEAH, THEY, THE GLASS IS VERY GOOD.

THE, THE GLASS THERE THEY HAVE IS THE DIDN LOOKS GOOD.

SO WE, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY NEED TO CHANGE IT.

OKAY.

SO THE NOTES THAT I'VE, JUST TO RECAP WHAT I HAVE SO FAR, YOU'RE GONNA CONSIDER HAVING THE, THE, THE TERMINOLOGY PET SUPPLY UNDERNEATH, UH, PAW THE TOP LINE, ADD THE BUSINESS HOURS, AND THE, UM, STREET NUMBER, UH, PROMINENTLY ON THE FRONT, UH, FRESH UP THE PAINT IN THE FRONT, AND POTENTIALLY REMOVE THE VENTS IF THEY CAN SAFELY BE ACCOMMODATED.

OKAY.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? AND CONSIDER PAINTING IT, UM, THE HORIZONTAL PIECES.

SO DO YOU MEAN LIKE THAT BAND THAT'S RIGHT ABOVE THE RIGHT AS OPPOSED TO NOT THE WHOLE FACADE? NO, I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE THE WHOLE FACADE, BUT MAYBE THE BAND AT THE TOP.

AND ALSO YOU COULD DO IT ON THE BOTTOM AND YEAH.

CAN YOU GUYS LIKE POINT EXACTLY LIKE, UH, WHERE YOU GUYS WANTED THE PAINT TO BE AND WELL, SO MAYBE JUST UNDER THE SIGN RENDERED RENDERED TO SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE IF THEY, IF, UM, MICHAEL SUPERIMPOSED THAT SAME COLOR THERE.

OKAY.

NO, I MEAN, I DON'T, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT

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SPECIFICALLY IS.

THIS PIECE HERE, RIGHT ABOVE THE WINDOWS, I, I, WITHIN THE PICTURE, I, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS.

I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY IT'S MIDDLE ABOVE HERE.

THAT'S JUST BRICK.

AND THERE IS A, A PIPE HERE THAT COMES FROM, FROM THIS SIDE OF THE, UH, THE AWNING AND I THINK GOES EVEN ACROSS HERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT PIPE IS, BUT, BUT THEN THIS PIECE HERE, I, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT, WHAT THAT IS AND WHAT THAT WAS FOR, TO BE HONEST.

YEAH.

SO WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL HAVE THEM, WE'LL HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'LL GET IT PAINTED, YOU KNOW, THAT PART THERE, AND THEN THAT PIECE.

WE'LL, WE'LL SEE IF IT'S, IF THERE'S NO USE OF IT, WE'LL REMOVE IT, YOU KNOW, SAFELY REMOVE IT AND THEN, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT SHOULD BE, THAT SHOULD BE IT.

END OF THE TOP.

THERE'S THREE RECTANGULAR PIECES.

UH, THE FIRST AND THE SECOND ONE DOWN.

I DON'T THINK YOU TOUCHED THE THIRD ONE YOU'RE SAYING HERE, RIGHT? UH, WE WOULD CONSIDER THOSE ONE.

IT'S LITERALLY THE PIPE THAT'S ONLY DIFFERENTIATING IT.

LIKE IF THAT'S, UM, DO YOU WANNA SEE THIS RENDERED? I'M NOT, IT MAY, IT SOUNDS LIKE A NICE IDEA, BUT IF YOU SAW IT IN RENDERING AND IT JUST CHANGED YOUR MIND, YOU KNOW, BEFORE HAVING THEM JUST GO OUT AND DO IT, I DON'T THINK YOU'RE LOOKING TO HAVE ANYTHING PAINTED HERE THAT'S JUST FRESHENING UP THE WHITE, YOU KNOW WHAT THE PIPE IS FOR.

IT SEEMS TO GO INTO THE NEIGHBOR'S.

YEP.

I WONDER IF MAYBE AT ONE POINT THE, THE SHOPS WERE A SINGLE SHOP AND IT'S CONDUIT THAT, THAT SERVED A, A LONGER, A LONGER STOREFRONT.

BECAUSE, BECAUSE THEN THERE'S CONDUIT WHERE THE, WHERE THE CURSOR IS RIGHT NOW.

YEAH.

SO MAYBE SOMEWHERE LIKE CURVES UP BY, THAT'S NOT THEM, BUT YOU SEE, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID IS A CONDUIT COMING TO THEIR SITE AND GOING UP.

RIGHT.

SO THE FORMER, THE FORMER TENANT, THE REAL ESTATE AGENT HAD A CONTIGUOUS AWNING THAT KIND OF WENT ACROSS, SO THAT WAS HIDDEN.

UM, YEAH, I'M WONDERING IF IT COULD JUST BE MOVED UP TO ON WHERE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A, THERE'S A PROTRUSION.

IT'S HARD TO DO IT FROM THIS ANGLE, BUT IT'S, UM, BUT MAYBE, MAYBE, UH, PAINTING IT, YOU KNOW, THE COLOR OF THE ANIMALS MIGHT HIDE IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING IF THAT COULD BE EITHER MOVED DOWN OR, OR UP.

WE, I GUESS WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT IT'S THERE FOR.

AND IS THAT INITIATING ON FROM INSIDE VERSUS YOUR STORE? MM-HMM .

LIKE, MY GUESS IS IT WAS THERE TO, I'M NOT GONNA GUESS.

UM, LET ME, I MEAN, I, THAT'S A GOOD SHOT.

YEAH, I MEAN, IT CERTAINLY GOES JUST INTO THIS SIDE OF THE AWNING.

I DON'T THINK IT'S CURVING ANYWHERE.

I MEAN, IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THERE'S ANY DIRECT CONNECTION TO THIS SPACE BECAUSE IT JUST RUNS ACROSS THE, THE WALL DISAPPEARS IN THE BLUE AWNING AND THEN HERE, I MEAN, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE BECAUSE OF THE SHADE, BUT IT MOST PROBABLY JUST DISAPPEARS INTO THE BLACK AWNING AS WELL.

I IF YOU ACTUALLY ZOOM OUT, UH, ON THE, ON THE GOOGLE MAPS VIEW THIS CON IT APPEARS IT LOOKS TO BE CONDUIT.

SO, UH, I'M GONNA USE THAT NAME.

UH, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.

THIS ACTUALLY CONTINUES UNDER THE COPPER KETTLE AWNING AND COMES OUT THE OTHER SIDE OF COPPER KETTLE AWNING DOWN THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING AND UNDERNEATH THEIR WINDOW.

SO IT SEEMS TO BE, I THINK MAYBE LIZ SAID IT THAT IT'S ACTUALLY PART OF, UH, IT WAS PUT THERE, MAYBE IT WAS A SINGLE BUSINESS STOREFRONT AT ONE POINT IN TIME.

UH, BUT THIS LOOKS LIKE IT'S ONE LONG CONTINUOUS RUN OF CONDUIT THATS MAYBE SERVES ONE OR MORE OF THOSE UNITS.

IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT SERVES THIS PARTICULAR STORE UNLESS IT'S GOING IN ON THE RIGHT.

IT MAY BE, YEAH, IT MAY BE RUNNING ALL THE WAY ACROSS TO THE SENT THE BARBERSHOP.

YEAH.

I'M GONNA ACTUALLY HAVE TO SPEAK TO THE, UM, TO THE LANDLORD AND KIND OF JUST YEAH, MAKE SURE OF THE PREVIOUS USE.

JUST WHAT THE USE OF IT AND YOU KNOW MM-HMM .

AND KIND OF CLEAR EVERYTHING OUT.

DOES THAT PIPE RUN ALONG, UH, WITH THAT, UH, BUSINESSES THAT DO NOT HAVE AN AWNING? IF WE GO TO THE

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LEFT, I MEAN, I DON'T HAVE ANOTHER PICTURE HERE.

I MEAN, MAYBE GARRETT, DO YOU WANNA BRING UP, UH, STREET VIEW AGAIN OR SOMEBODY SHARING STREET VIEW? I ONLY HAVE THIS, UH, SOMEBODY AWNING AUDIENCE.

THIS VIEW IS THERE, THERE IT IS.

YEAH.

IT DOES RUN, RUN FOR QUITE A BIT.

ALL THE WAY UP TO VEGAS IT LOOKS LIKE.

MAYBE NOT.

ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE.

HOW LONG, YOU'RE CURIOUS TO SEE IF IT CAN BE DECOMMISSIONED, UH, DECOMMISSIONED OR, OR WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE WITHOUT AN AWNING? SO WE HAVE AN IDEA WHAT IT, WHAT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE? IT, IT, IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO GO PAST THE BARBER SHOP AND TO BE AFFECTING THE, UH, VETERINARY HOSPITAL THAT DOESN'T APPEAR ON ANY OF THE, UM, GOOGLE STREET FUSE.

RIGHT? SO IT'S ONLY AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY, YOU'RE NOT HAVING AN AUDIT.

UM, BUT MAYBE THERE'S A WAY WITH THE PAINTING, MAYBE PAINT IT, MAYBE TO PAINT THAT SECTION.

I DON'T KNOW.

THE OTHERS.

THE OTHERS ON THE, WELL, I THINK IF YOU MIGHT KNOW BETTER, IF YOU PAINT JUST THE PIPE, ANYTHING BUT WHITE, IT'S GONNA STAND OUT.

BUT MAYBE YOU'RE, YOU'RE, AS FAR AS THE YELLOW, YOU'RE LOOKING TO BRING MORE LIKE FLAVOR TO THE FACADE.

RIGHT.

BUT NOT THERE.

RIGHT.

AM I, CAN YOU ZOOM IN, MICHAEL? WHEN YOUR, YOUR YELLOW CONCEPT WAS THIS BAND, RIGHT? BUT THIS, IF IT WERE FRESHLY PAINTED WHITE, THEN IT'LL OBSCURE IT MORE THE PIPE.

YEAH.

I MEAN, WHAT IS THAT BAND COULD, WAS THAT A PART OF THE AWNING SUPPORT THAT NO, THAT BAND IS, YOU MEAN A BAND? YEAH, THAT, THAT METAL BAND WAS PART, SO YOU COULD SEE THE OUTLINE OF IT, THE AWNING, YOU CAN SEE IT AT THE TOP.

BUT, BUT THIS PIECE AT THE BOTTOM I DON'T THINK HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH AN AWNING.

I MEAN, USUALLY THE AWNING IS, IS JUST THE FRAME, YOU KNOW, LITERALLY RUNNING WHAT YOU SEE WHAT THIS PIECE IS HERE THAT RUNS ACROSS IN, I HAVE NO IDEA.

UNLESS THERE WAS SOME, YOU KNOW, FLASHING THAT WAS PUT UP BEHIND THE AWNING.

UH, THAT'S THE ONLY THING I CAN THINK OF.

MM-HMM.

UH, THE, THE, THERE IS COMMON OWNERSHIP, UH, FOR MULTIPLE BUILDINGS.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BRAKE LINE IS.

UH, THERE, THIS SIDE OF THE STREET, IT'S, IT'S VERY CONSISTENT OWNERSHIP, I BELIEVE, FOR A LONG STRETCH.

YEAH.

I MEAN, I'M, I'M JUST LOOKING AT STREET VIEW AS WELL.

AND, AND, UH, I'M, THE PICTURE RIGHT NOW IS, IS IS OLDER, BUT I THINK THE, THE CURRENT, UM, NEW BARBERSHOP THERE, I MEAN, THEY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THIS AS WELL.

I MEAN, IT COULD HAVE BEEN THAT IN THE, IN THE REALLY, REALLY OLD TIMES.

I MEAN, JUST THE KIND OF, UH, CONTIGUOUS TYPE OF METAL BAND AS A DESIGN ELEMENT, TO BE HONEST.

BECAUSE BEFORE THE NEW, UH, BARBERSHOP WENT IN, IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT UP ON, ON ON STREET VIEW, YOU SEE THE SIMILAR SIZED BAND THAT IS JUST RUNNING ACROSS FOR NO REASON.

JUST TO BREAK IT UP, I GUESS.

HEY, DELEY? YEAH.

HOW YOU DAR THINK HAVING A COLORED DECK GOING RIGHT NEXT? THAT'S OUR LUCK.

THE TOP PIECE.

TOP RECTANGLE, GAME WIDE.

LIKE HIDE THE PIPE DIRECTLY.

WE DON'T, WE DON'T DO SOMETHING.

I MEAN, LOOKING AT STREET VIEW, I MEAN WE'RE, WE'RE FOCUSED ON IT BECAUSE THIS IS ALL WE'RE LOOKING AT.

BUT LIKE HERE, I MEAN, THERE'S LIKE A BUNCH OF CONDUIT.

SO LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA BE FOCUSED ON IF YOU'RE ACTUALLY STANDING ON THE SIDE.

YEAH.

IT WOULD BE OKAY OUTSIDE.

YEAH, YOU CAN HAVE IT OUTSIDE.

ONE OF THOSE PIPES MUST TURN LEFT AND GO ACROSS THE, I MEAN, IF YOU DON'T WANT ALUMINUM, YOU CAN MAKE THAT AS, AS PRETTY AS YOU WANT, BUT YOU'RE STILL GONNA HAVE ALL THE CONDUIT TO THE RIGHT OF IT.

YEAH.

BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING ACROSS THE TOP.

SO WE DON'T TRY TO, IT COULD LOOK SOMEWHAT NICE.

UH, A LOT OF IT'S GOTTA BE HIDDEN BECAUSE THERE'S WNS ON BOTH SIDES.

MAYBE PAINT THE WHOLE THING, INCLUDING THE CONDUIT.

YEAH.

HERE, LIKE, SO YOU KIND OF SEE IT WAS LIKE DIRECTLY PRINTED OFF, BUT NOT THAT WHATEVER THAT BAD YOU PRINT ONTO,

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I DON'T KNOW.

WE'D HAVE TO SEE SOME OUT THE DOOR.

THE ONLY HAVE LIKE A CLEAR FINAL.

WHEN DO YOU INTEND TO OPEN? JUST WHENEVER WE GET THE INSPECTION DONE AND THAT'S IT.

EVERYTHING IS READY.

AND WHAT DO YOU INTEND TO HAVE IN THE WINDOWS? IN THE WINDOWS? NOTHING.

IT'S GONNA BE LIKE, OPEN.

SO THEN YOU REALLY DO NEED THAT PET SUPPLIES IN THE, ON THAT SIDE? YEAH, IT LOOKS LIKE A BAND.

YEAH.

WE JUST, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST THINKING LIKE, BECAUSE OF THE NARROW SPACE, HOW WE SEE HOW NOW IT IS, IT'S, UH, PEOPLE NEED TO SEE INSIDE.

SO WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE ANYTHING IN THE GLASS.

WE WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S VERY VISIBLE SO PEOPLE CAN JUST, YOU KNOW, SEE ALL THE WAY THROUGH SINCE THE, THE PLACE IS SMALL FROM INSIDE.

OH, YEAH.

YEAH.

IT'S LIKE NARROW.

MAKE A 1 99 BEER, I DON'T KNOW, A CAR PASSING BY IF THAT'S GONNA REALLY DO ALL THAT.

YEAH, THE, YEAH, THE 1 99 ALSO, WE'RE GONNA HAVE LIKE THE HOURS WITH BOTH THE SIGN ON THE DOOR.

OKAY.

IT WILL ACTUALLY LIKE THE ALUMINUM ON THE TOP A LITTLE MORE.

THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE STRATEGIST.

UM, MICHAEL, IF YOU COULD SEND US A RENDERING.

I THINK YOU, YOU'RE ALMOST THERE.

UM, I MEAN, YOU LIKE IT, THE MODIFIED FONT.

ALUMINUM, UH, YEAH, I MEAN THE, THE MODIFIED, THE MODIFIED SIGNS SAYING PER AND POOR PET SUPPLIES.

UM, AS I SAID, WITH PET SUPPLIES THEN BEING MUCH SMALLER THAN THE PER AND PAW.

I THINK WE WILL ALSO, UH, UH, ACHIEVE THAT BY, BY NOT CAPITALIZING THE WORD PET SUPPLIES, BUT, BUT, BUT HAVE OBVIOUSLY CAPITAL P AND CAPITAL S, BUT THEN PET AND SUPPLIES BEING WRITTEN WITH JUST, UH, LOWERCASE LETTERS, RATHER, OTHER THAN, I THINK IT WOULD BE SUPPLY OR SUPPLIES, WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE IS.

I THINK I, I THINK WE SHOULD, I MEAN SUPPLIES, I THINK, I KNOW SUPPLIES I THINK IS THE RIGHT WORD, EVEN TO USE BECAUSE IT'S NOT A SINGULAR SUPPLY, IT'S, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, IN GENERAL ALL TYPES OF STUFF.

YEAH, TOTALLY.

YOUR CHOICE LOOKS A LOT BIGGER THAN THAT.

UM, BUT IT'S IN SQUARES TOO.

YOU KNOW WHAT, IT'S JUST THE SHAPE.

YEAH.

I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE ON THIS? I MEAN, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO KNOW, UH, LIZ OR GARRETT, THE UPDATED, UM, RENDERING, UH, SENT BY EMAIL OR, OR IS THERE A SPECIFIC PROCESS? EMAIL'S GOOD.

OKAY.

IT'S NOT GETTING DONE.

I GUESS THAT IS IT FOR PER AND PAUL, I MEAN, GARRETT, UH, CAN YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT THE ACTION ITEMS RIGHT NOW IS JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE, YEAH, THAT WE HAVE A FULL LIST.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ISSUE A KIND OF, UH, MINUTES OR, OR EMAIL.

JUST SUMMARIZE IT.

I'LL, I'LL DO A LETTER AFTER THIS.

OKAY, GOOD.

SO WE HAVE IT.

I UP THE SIGN TO SAY PET SUPPLY OR SUPPLIES, WHATEVER YOUR PREFERENCE IS, UH, IF YOU CAN UPDATE THE NUMBER SO THAT IT'S A LITTLE MORE PROMINENT.

AND YOU INDICATED YOU'RE GONNA ADD, UH, THE HOURS.

YES.

IF YOU DO INTEND TO MODIFY ABOVE THE WINDOWS WITH ANY PAINT COLOR, UH, MAYBE JUST THINK ABOUT THAT AND IF YOU WANNA SEND US A RENDERING THAT WORKS IN YELLOW, SO, SO THE COMMITTEE CAN JUST QUICKLY LOOK AT IT AND DETERMINE WHETHER THEY THINK THAT'S AN ENHANCEMENT OR WHETHER JUST REFRESHING THE WHITE PAINT IS BETTER.

UM, THOSE OPTIONS WOULD BE GOOD.

UM, THE EXTENT THAT THE EVENT ON THE BOTTOM, IF IT'S NO LONGER OPERATIONAL AND CAN BE REMOVED, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THE COMMITTEE FAVORS.

AND, AND YOU KNOW, JUST REFRESHING THE WHITE PAINT ON THE BOTTOM, THAT SEEMED TO BE COMING UP A LITTLE BIT.

UM, I GUESS IT'S AN ASSUMPTION THAT THE CONDUIT IS FUNCTIONAL ON SOME LEVEL, BUT IF YOU GET ANY INFORMATION FROM THE OWNER THAT IT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY NOT FUNCTIONAL, UM, IT CAN BE REMOVED.

I MEAN, I GUESS SUPPOSE THAT WOULD BE GOOD.

UM, BUT I'LL MEMORIALIZE ALL THIS

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IN A LETTER.

OKAY.

WHAT DO PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THE BOTTOM? SHOULD THAT BE WHITE OR SHOULD IT BE THE, THE MUSTARD COLOR ON THE BOTTOM? COULD YOU SCROLL DOWN THERE FOR US, MICHAEL? THANK YOU.

AND IT PICKS UP, DON'T JUST PAINT, BUT SEE IF YOU CAN PICK UP ALL WHATEVER'S BROKEN UP THERE.

UNLESS THAT'S JUST WHATEVER THAT IS.

DO, DO YOU GUYS THINK THAT SHOULD BE LEAVE IT THE WAY IT IS? OR LIKE COLOR IT OR LIKE PAINTED THE SAME PAINT AS THE ONE ON, ON LIKE YELLOW? YEAH, I, I THINK THE SAME WOULD LOOK BETTER, I THINK WITH CONSISTENCY.

AND THEN, SO I HAVE IT YELLOW PAINTED IN YELLOW.

YEAH, I THINK SOMETHING YELLOW.

YELLOW, YELLOW.

ENTERING.

YEAH, YELLOW.

YOU'RE GONNA PAINT.

WHAT COLOR? THE YELLOW.

I WOULD RATHER SEE WHITE THAN YELLOW MUSTARD COLOR.

NO, NO, NO, NO.

IT MATCHES IS THE SIGN.

I DON'T THINK THE, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA LOOK RIGHT.

SO YOU THINK WHITE WOULD LOOK BETTER? WHITE LOOKS GOOD.

.

OKAY.

VERY.

COULD YOU, COULD YOU SCAN DOWN AND MAYBE IF ALL THE BASES ARE WHITE, THEN WE LEAVE IT WHITE.

WELL, ALSO COPPER KETTLE LOOKS TO BE MORE OF LIKE A BEIGE COLOR THAN, THAN THE OTHER TWO STOREFRONTS.

YEAH.

YEAH.

AND IT IS KIND OF NICE THAT THE BEIGE OF COPPER KETTLE SORT OF DISTINGUISHES IT FROM, BECAUSE I, I LOOKING AT IT, IT DOES LOOK LIKE AT ONE POINT IT WAS ONE STOREFRONT AND THEN IT WAS BROKEN UP INTO THREE.

AND SO THEIR COLOR SORT OF DISTINGUISHES THEM WITHIN THE BLOCK OF THREE.

OKAY.

AND, AND MAYBE, SO YOU'RE SAYING PAGE, I THINK YOU, THAT NETWORK VERY GOOD, BUT MAKE IT A UNIFORM, YOU WANNA MAKE IT DISTINCT.

MAKE, I MEAN, IF, IF YOU WANT TO HEAR MY OPINION, JUST I, NOT THE OWNER, OBVIOUSLY NOT THE COMMITTEE.

BUT I MEAN, IF, IF YOU PUT SOME COLOR ON, ON THIS SPACE HERE, UH, I MEAN, I, I DON'T KNOW.

I, I GUESS WHITE AND YES, THERE IS SOME BASE HERE, BUT AT LEAST IT'S, IT'S ALL A LIGHT COLOR.

AND YES, THERE'S SOME HAVE AWNING, SOME, SOME DON'T, BUT, BUT AT LEAST THE BUILDING COLOR IS, IS UNIFORM, RIGHT? IT'S, IT'S JUST CONTINUING WHITE ALL WAY, ALL THE WAY.

I MEAN, YOU PUT ANYTHING, IF IT'S, IF IT'S A BEIGE, A MUSTARD, I MEAN, WHATEVER IT IS, I THINK IT'S GONNA LOOK VERY STRANGE.

AND THEN THE QUESTION IS, DO YOU HAVE TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO THE ROOF LINE, WHICH I THINK NO, NO, NOBODY WAS, NO, NO, NO.

SO JUST, JUST A YEAH, JUST UNDERNEATH THE SIGN.

OKAY.

BUT JUST RENDER IT.

LET'S SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITH JUST A SIMPLE RENDER OF THAT COLOR.

AND, UM, I THINK THAT'LL IN INFORM, YEAH, MAYBE, MAYBE DO, UH, DIFFERENT RENDERINGS SO THAT WE COULD SEE SO THAT WE DON'T, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T SAY, WELL, WHAT WOULD IT BE LIKE WITH THAT? SO TRY, TRY DIFFERENT COMBINATIONS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

AND, UM, ANY QUESTION GUYS? I THINK WE'RE ALL SET.

OKAY.

SO I'LL GET THAT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU, SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

OKAY.

BYE EVERYONE.

TAKE CARE.

BYE.

TAKE CARE.

WE HAVE ONE MORE APPLICATION, UH, MICHAEL.

YEAH.

WITH RESPECT TO HARTS BURY DELI, UM, IF YOU COULD BRING THAT BACK UP AND ABDUL, YOU'RE ON FROM THERE, RIGHT? I UNDER THANK YOU, JASON.

UNDERSTAND TWO 30, I THINK THIS WON'T BE TOO LONG.

UH, BUT IF, IF, IF, IF WE GO BEYOND THAT, TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.

LET ME, LET ME QUICKLY STOP SHARING AND THEN I WILL BRING UP THE, UH, THE BURY THE ACTION ITEM.

AND, UH, IS, IS THAT ABDUL, THAT, THAT'S REPRESENTING THE, UH, FUTURE DELI OPERATOR? NO, NO.

I MEAN, NO ABDUL AND, AND, UH, EY I THINK THIS IS, THEY THEY'RE TOGETHER.

YES, THEY'RE TOGETHER.

YES.

SO REALLY WE PROBABLY ARE NOT SPENDING MUCH IF ANY TIME ON HARTS.

VERY, NO.

I MEAN, AS I SAID, I, I KNOW THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE, THERE ARE QUESTIONS, UH, BEYOND ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE SIGN.

BUT, BUT I, I'M, I'M JUST THE WRONG PERSON FOR THAT.

AS I SAID, , I CAN BRING IT UP.

GIMME A SECOND.

GIMME A SECOND.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO, IT'S OKAY.

YEAH.

UM, SO MICHAEL, IF YOU, I'LL GET THE LETTER OUT WITH THESE ACTION ITEMS IN THE FIRST TWO ITEMS. UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU CAN GET BACK TO US, PLEASE DO.

AND WE'LL, WE'LL, YOU KNOW, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO WRAP THESE UP, UH, YOU KNOW, QUICKLY.

YEAH, YEAH.

I THINK MECADO AND, AND, UH, AND THIS, UH, PER AND PAUL, I, I, I GUESS WE, WE CAN, AS I SAID ON HARTSBURG, I HAVE IT HERE IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I, I, I JUST CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY, ANYTHING OTHER THAN, UH, THE SIGN THAT, THAT, SO FAR THEY HAVE ASKED ME TO, TO PRICE, TO LAYOUT, AND YOU HAVE SEEN IT.

SO, I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S ALL I CAN REALLY SAY, AND I HAVE NOT BEEN IN TOUCH THAT, THAT MUCH, UH, BECAUSE THERE IS THIS, UH,

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GC, UH, WHAT'S HIS NAME? TONY, UH, I DON'T KNOW HIS LAST NAME, UH, WHO IS HANDLING THIS.

AND, UM, YEAH, I'LL GET INTO CONTACT WITH HIM AND WE'LL TAKE IT FROM THERE.

IT'S NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY, BUT WE, WE APPRECIATE YOUR HELP, SO, ABSOLUTELY.

OKAY.

AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE CAN CONCLUDE THE MEETING AND I WANNA THANK OUR MEMBERS, YOU, MICHAEL, AND, AND ALL THE, THE GUESTS THAT ARRIVE TODAY.

AND, UH, WE WILL MEET, MEET NEXT AT A DATE TO BE DETERMINED, UH, NO IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

HAPPY HOLIDAYS.

THANK YOU.

HAVE BYE.