* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. MICROPHONE. OKAY. [00:00:01] UH, WELCOME TO OUR TOWN BOARD, UH, UH, WORK SESSION, OUR FINAL WORK SESSION FOR THE YEAR. TODAY'S DECEMBER 23RD, AND IT'S SEVEN, UH, 13. AND, UH, THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS REORGANIZATION RULES AND PROCEDURES. AND I JUST WANNA NOTE THAT WE HAVE A QUORUM PHYSICALLY PRESENT IN TOWN HALL FOR A DULY, UH, NOTED MEETING. WE HAVE TWO BOARD MEMBERS ON NOTICE. DULY NOTICED MEETINGS. THANK YOU. UH, WE HAVE TWO BOARD MEMBERS ON ZOOM, COUNCILWOMAN HA UH, HENDRICKS AND COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON. WE ARE IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL STATE LAW AND TOWN LAW, AND THAT'S IN REGARDS TO BOTH THE WORK SESSION OCCURRING RIGHT NOW AND WHEN WE MOVE INTO A SPECIAL MEETING LATER TONIGHT. OKAY. SO WE'RE, UM, GONNA BE DOING THE SWEARING IN AT THE FIRST MEETING. YES. AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ALSO, UM, UH, I'M GONNA HAVE FIRST MEETING OF A YEAR. YEAR. YEAH. I'M GONNA HAVE A SWEARING IN CEREMONY, WHICH, UH, EVERYBODY'S INVITED TO FOR THE DEATH AT THE SCHOOL FOR THE DEATH. THAT'S, UM, ON, UM, JANUARY 7TH AT NIGHT. WAIT, I'M SORRY. LEMME JUST MAKE SURE I GIVE YOU THE RIGHT DATE. UM, IT'S JANUARY 7TH AT NINE. UM, AND I THINK THAT, UM, IF THERE'S LIKE A SNOW DAY, THEN IT WOULD BE LIKE THE FOLLOWING, UM, UNIT DAY. UM, AND THEN I'M HAVING ANOTHER ONE. UM, WAIT, LET ME AT HIGH VIEW SCHOOL. YAY. UH, YOU, UH, AND THAT'S AT 9:30 AM ON JANUARY 21ST. UM, AND UM, THAT'S IS AT NINE 30. NINE 30. AND, UM, AND I THINK THE, THERE'S A SNOW DATE THE, THE NEXT DAY. AND, UM, JUDGE RODRIGUEZ IS GONNA SWEAR ME IN AT THE FIRST, UM, FIRST ONE. UM, AND I ALSO WANTED TO, UM, MENTION THE FIRST ONE BEING THE SCHOOL OF THE DEATH, THE SCHOOL FOR THE DEATH. AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT, UM, UM, I, I'M DOING SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, FOR MYSELF, FOR MY, THE ONE AT THE TOWN BOARD MEETING, UM, WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED, MY NIECE, UH, HELD THE BIBLE. AND, UM, SHE NOW HAS A 2-YEAR-OLD, TWO AND A HALF YEAR OLD. SO SHE'S COMING IN FROM BROOKLYN, UM, AND SHE'S GONNA HOLD THE BIBLE. UM, AND IF SHE'S, SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION, AND MY, UM, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT HER SISTER IS ONLY LIKE A COUPLE MONTHS, UH, IS GONNA BE ALSO HERE, UH, JUST TO LEARN THE ROUTINE. UM, BUT, UH, AND SO I'M JUST, YEAH. SO THEY ASKED IF THEY COULD DO THAT SWEARING IN EARLIER, BECAUSE I KNOW IF SHE'LL BE DISRUPTING THE MEETING. YEAH. I MEAN, I WANT TO GET HER OUT OF THE PLACE. UH, BUT IT, IT, WELL LET ME GUESS. SEVEN O'CLOCK. NO, NO, NO, NO. I'M SAYING NO, IT COULD BE SEVEN 30, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF WE COULD SEVEN 14. YEAH. THE SWEARING IN USUALLY GOES, GOES. YEAH, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IF RIGHT. BUT I'M JUST SAYING I DON'T WANT TO DISRUPT, YOU KNOW, YOUR SWEARING IT OR OTHERS. AND SOMETIMES WHEN YOU HAVE LITTLE KIDS, YOU CAN'T CONTROL THEM. MY FAMILY'S COMING OFF. WHAT? YEAH. YEAH. BUT THERE'S GOTTA BE ENOUGH DISRUPTION. SO WE, MAYBE WE SHOULD START AT SEVEN. I DON'T KNOW. YEAH, WHATEVER YOU WANTED. I DON'T CARE. IT'S JUST, IT'S, UH, SPECIAL. OKAY. YEAH. YEAH. SO LET'S START AT SEVEN. IT'S VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE FOR ME. OH, OF COURSE. OF COURSE. UM, AND THAT'S THE FIRST 14TH. I APPRECIATE THAT SHE DATES THE TWO SWEARING IN DATES OTHER THAN OUR REORG INTO AN EMAIL. I DON'T HAVE MY CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME, AND I APPRECIATE HAVING, I, I, I THOUGHT THAT I SENT EVERYBODY. I'LL SHOOT IT TO YOU, ELLEN. NO PROBLEM. YOU I'LL SEND IT. I DID SEND IT ABOUT A WEEK AGO OR, OR TWO, BUT I'LL, I'LL DO SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, CLOSER TO, UH, THE, OR TONIGHT WHEN I GET HOME, I'LL TELL, I'LL DO, I'LL DO IT FOR YOU TOMORROW. NO PROBLEM. I'LL SEND IT TO EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY, BECAUSE I'LL, IF, IF, YOU KNOW, IF EVERYBODY'S GONNA GO, I'LL, I'LL LET THE, THE SCHOOL FOR THE DEATH. UM, AND HI, IF YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA ATTEND. THANK YOU. I THINK I HAVE A CONFLICT WITH THE FIRST. I'LL SEE IF I CAN CHANGE IT. OKAY. THE DATES AGAIN ARE WHAT? THE SEVENTH, THE, THE 14TH. JANUARY 7TH AND AT 9:00 AM AND THE HI VIEW IS, AND HI, VIEW IS JANUARY. I'LL NOT BE ATTENDING THE ONE ON JANUARY 7TH. YOU, NO. OKAY. AND THE JANUARY 21ST, UH, HI. VIEW SCHOOL IS AT NINE 30. YOU NO, YEAH, JUST SEND IT TO ME 'CAUSE I DON'T HAVE MY WORK CALENDAR IN FRONT OF ME, SO, OKAY. I'M SORRY, LISA, CAN YOU DO THAT? I'M SORRY. 'CAUSE I GOT CUT OFF. CAN YOU DO THAT ONE MORE TIME? JANUARY, OF COURSE. SEVENTH IS HIGHVIEW. AND THEN WHERE IS THE SCHOOL OF DEATH IS WHAT? JANUARY 21ST? JANUARY. JANUARY 7TH IS THE SCHOOL OF THE DEATH. SCHOOL OF THE DEATH. OKAY. AND THAT'S AT 9:00 AM YEAH. AND THEN JANUARY 21ST HI, VIEW SCHOOL AND THAT'S AT NINE 30. [00:05:02] OKAY. THANK. AND, AND, UH, AND UH, OUR SWEARING IN WILL BE AT SEVEN O'CLOCK ON THE, THE 14TH. 14TH. 14TH. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . THANK YOU. OKAY. SO IN TERMS OF, SO IN, IN TERMS OF THE REORGANIZATION DOCUMENT AND THE TOWN BOARD MEETING, RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR THOSE WATCHING, THE TOWN BOARD PASSES THESE, UM, EVERY TWO YEARS AND IT'S COMING, THE DUE DATE'S COMING THIS COMING JANUARY. SO, UM, THE PLAN IS TO HAVE BOTH OF THESE DOCUMENTS APPROVED VIA TOWN BOARD VOTE ON THE JANUARY 14TH TOWN BOARD MEETING MM-HMM . SO WE PUT IT ON FOR TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WE DIDN'T EXPECT A LONG DISCUSSION, WE JUST WANTED TO PRESENT SOME CHANGES THAT STAFF HAD ALREADY WORKED ON, BUT WE'LL BE PRESENTING MORE IN ADVANCE. UM, WE WERE ALSO PLANNING ON PUTTING IT ON THE WORK SESSION AGAIN ON JANUARY 6TH MM-HMM . TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. SO NOTHING'S FINAL TODAY. NO, NO, NO. ABSOLUTELY NOT. IT WON'T BE FINAL UNTIL YOU VOTE ON JANUARY 14TH. OKAY. BUT, UM, JUST TO GET THE PROCESS STARTED AND TO START THINKING ABOUT WHAT CHANGES YOU WANT IMPLEMENTED FOR THE COMING TWO YEARS AND HOW WILL WE SHARE CHANGES WITH MARKUP? LIKE THEY, THEY DID OR, YEAH. I WOULD SUGGEST A REDLINING MM-HMM . AND COMMENT SO THAT YOUR NAME IS ATTACHED TO THE PROPOSED CHANGES. OKAY. AND THE CIRCULATED FOR THE NEXT DISCUSSION. NO PROBLEM. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THOUGHTS SURE. HOLLY IS COPIED. ONE OF THE THOUGHTS, YOU KNOW, I HAD, UH, WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S MANY TIMES PEOPLE COME, UH, WANT TO COME TO THE BOARD MEETING, UM, AND THEY JUST HAVE SOMETHING VERY BRIEF. UM, AND, UM, AND YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. AND I'M WONDERING IF IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO HAVE LIKE A TWO MINUTE, LIKE, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, I'M AGAINST THIS, OR I'M FOR THIS, OR I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE MY STREET HAS A POTHOLE AND HASN'T BEEN, YOU KNOW, I'M SAYING IF WE COULD HAVE HAD, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, MAYBE GIVE PEOPLE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK FOR SAY, TWO MINUTES, UM, BEFORE THE REGULAR PUBLIC COMMENTS. AND IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VERY QUICK. AND THEN THEY COULD LEAVE IF, UH, THEY DON'T WANT TO WAIT AROUND FOR THE WHOLE MEETING. SO I THINK I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE REORGANIZATION DOCUMENT. I, THE, THE RULES AND PROCEDURES IS GONNA REQUIRE MORE IN-DEPTH LOOK AT IT. UM, AND ANY, I THINK ANY SUGGESTIONS YOU SHOULD PUT IN TO THAT. OKAY. UM, FOR, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, IS THAT, IS THAT IN THE RULES OF WHERE, WHERE PUBLIC COMMENT WILL APPEAR ON THE, UM, AGENDA RULES, THE TOWN BOARD MEETING RULES AND PROCEDURES THAT HAPPENED IS THE DOCUMENT THAT EXPLAINS THE LAYOUT MM-HMM . OF EACH MEETING, UM, THE ORDER OF EACH MEETING, UH, SPECIFIC MOTIONS TO BE MADE AND THE RULES REGARDING THE MOTIONS. AND THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE REORGANIZATION DOCUMENT, WHICH YEAH. UM, YOU KNOW, PUTS DEPARTMENT HEADS, DEPUTIES AND DIRECTORS INTO PLACE MM-HMM . DESIGNATION OF NEWSPAPERS, UM, SALARY AND PAYROLL PROCEDURES AND, AND SOME OTHER PROCEDURES. SO TOWN BOARD MEETING RULES AND PROCEDURES IS THE DOCUMENT THAT WILL RELATE TO PUBLIC COMMENT, PUBLIC HEARINGS, ITEMS LIKE THAT MM-HMM . UNDERSTOOD. UM, AND, UM, WITH THIS REORG, ALL OF THESE DEPARTMENT HEADS, UM, ALSO HAVE TO BE SWORN IN. IS THERE GONNA BE A PARTICULAR DAY THAT WE DO ALL OF THEM AT ONE TIME, OR WE NEVER HAVE SWEARING IN FOR DEPARTMENT HEADS. THEY JUST SIGNED THE OATH BOOK. YEAH. WE, WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED A CEREMONY. WE COULD JUST CLARIFY IT. YEAH. YOU WILL HAVE TO HAVE PEOPLE SWEAR. NO, NO, NO. I, WE, WE COULD WORK ON THE SCHEDULE. IT'S NOT A FORMAL AFFAIR DURING OH YEAH, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE GONNA, IT SHOULD JUST BE DONE AS SOON AFTER THE VOTE IS MADE. COPY. SO, OKAY. WHATEVER WORKS FOR PEOPLE'S SCHEDULES AND WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOUR SCHEDULE, BUT THERE, THERE DOESN'T NEED TO BE A MEETING FOR IT OR ALL OCCURRING AT THE SAME TIME. OH, OKAY. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. UM, THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M BRINGING IT THIS UP IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A FOIL. THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M ADDRESSING IT. OKAY. FOIL FOR THIS, UH, THE OATH. YEP. THEIR OATH FOR, UH, DEPARTMENT HEAD. OKAY. WE SHOULD HAVE THE RULES OF PROCEDURES THOUGH AT THE SAME TIME, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YEAH, YEAH. BOTH TO BE PASSED ON JANUARY 14TH. YEAH. MM-HMM . YEAH. SO WE HAVE UNTIL THEN TOO, AND WE HAVE TWO WORK SESSIONS PRIOR TO THAT. YEAH. RIGHT. SO WHAT WE, WHAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT [00:10:01] WE'VE TRIED BEFORE, WE'VE HAD A LIGHTNING ROUND AT THE VERY BEGINNING, UM, FOR PEOPLE THAT WANT TO JUST SPEAK AND THEN LEAVE. AND IT JUST TURNED OUT TO BE AN EXTRA MINUTE BECAUSE THEY SPOKE AND THEN THEY SPOKE FIVE MINUTES LATER. RIGHT. MINUTES. BUT I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. UM, IT'S, I JUST SORT OF FEEL THAT I DO, OR MAY, YOU COULD EVEN HAVE A RESTRICTION SAYING, YOU KNOW, IF THEY SPEAK, YOU KNOW, IF THEY, IF THIS IS, IF THEY COMING HERE JUST FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING ONE ITEM QUICKLY, UM, AND THEY'RE NOT GONNA SPEAK AGAIN, UH, WE'LL GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK BEFORE, UH, BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS. THIS WAY THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT LIKE TWO OR THREE HOURS. UNDERSTOOD. SO HOW ABOUT LIGHTNING ROUND AND THEN WITH THE CAVEAT THAT IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK, STAY AND SPEAK AGAIN, THEY WILL SPEAK FOR, IF THE LIGHTNING ROUND IS TWO MINUTES, THEY CAN SPEAK FOR THREE MINUTES. THAT'S FINE. THAT'S EVEN BETTER. YEAH. WE HAD A LIGHT, IT WAS REAL LIGHTNING ROUND. IT WAS ONE MINUTE. YOU KNOW, YOU COULD SAY HOWEVER WE DIVIDE UP, BUT JUST PROPOSING THAT, THAT BE SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT. SO SOMETIMES, UH, MUNICIPALITIES DO PUBLIC COMMENT IN THE BEGINNING AND SOMETIMES THEY DO IT AT THE END AND PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT EITHER, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WHEN IT'S IN THE BEGINNING, THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT THE WHOLE NIGHT, BUT THEN THEY FEEL LIKE THEY CAN'T RESPOND TO THE SUBSTANCE OF THE MEETING AND THEY WANT THAT OPPORTUNITY, SO, RIGHT. YEAH. SO, UM, SO MAYBE IF WE DO SOMETHING SHORT, RIGHT. YOU KNOW, IT WOULD HAVE TO BE VERY SHORT, IF I MAY MAKE A SUGGESTION MM-HMM . SO IF THE ONLY TIME WHERE THEY WOULD BE SPEAKING, OF COURSE IS EITHER DURING PUBLIC COMMENT OR DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS MM-HMM . BUT THEY'RE AFFORDED THEIR RIGHT TO SPEAK DURING PUBLIC HEARINGS, A FULL FIVE MINUTES AND A SECOND ROUND. SO IF WE HAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE, UM, THE HEARING, THE PUBLIC COMMENT BEFORE THE PUBLIC HEARINGS, THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED WILL HAVE THEIR FULL FIVE MINUTES TO SPEAK. AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, IF THEY WANNA HEAR IT OR THEY WANNA SPEAK ON IT, THEY'LL HAVE THAT TIME. AND THEN FOR THOSE WHO HAVE YOUNG CHILDREN, WE CAN GET THEM OUT EARLIER THAN, AND, AND THAT'S THE ONLY THING I'M THINKING OF IS YOUNG CHILDREN, UM, THOSE WHO HAVE, UM, CHILDREN TO GET HOME. AND AGAIN, THE, THE WAITING THROUGH ALL OF THE, UM, HEARINGS IS, IS IT'S A, IT'S A LITTLE TIME CONSUMING TO SAY THE LEAST. THERE'S NO . WELL, THE OTHER PART IS THAT ANY, ANY OF OUR PRESENTATIONS REALLY BE RESTRICTIVE IN TERMS OF TIME. YES. BECAUSE OFTEN THEY CAN GO ON FOR HALF AN HOUR OR AN HOUR SO THAT OUR MEETINGS GET STARTED LATER. SO THAT PART AND PARCEL, UM, OF ANY DECISION WE MAKE, WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT CONSIDERATION AND MAKE SURE, I THINK WE SHOULD LIMIT IT TO ONE PRESENTATION PER MEETING. PERSONALLY, THAT'S, SOMETIMES IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE IT DEPENDS, YOU KNOW, THERE COULD BE TWO THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT. AND, YOU KNOW, I FIND THAT, YOU KNOW, WELL, SO IF IT'S A, I MEAN, I, I CAN'T THINK OF ANOTHER EXAM. I CAN'T THINK OF A SINGLE EXAMPLE OF WHERE WE COULDN'T HAVE SPACED OUT OVER A PERIOD OF MEETINGS RATHER THAN HAD MULTIPLE ONES. UM, CERTAINLY WHEN WE DO ANY KINDA A HERITAGE ONE, THAT SHOULD BE THE ONLY ONE. IT SHOULD BE THE FOCUS. WE SHOULD NOT HAVE OTHER PRESENTATIONS WITH THAT. BUT LIKE WHEN, YOU KNOW, YOU DO BUSINESS OF THE MONTH, THAT TAKES TIME, THEN THAT SHOULD BE THE ONLY, IT TAKES LONGER THAN 10 MINUTES. YEAH. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE COULD, WHY DON'T WE JUST LIMIT ALL PRESENTATIONS TO MAXIMUM OF 10 MINUTES EACH? AND WE'LL SAY, WELL, WE DID DO THAT, BUT IT DIDN'T WORK. , IT NEVER WORKED, ADHERE TO IT. I DON'T KNOW. I THINK IT'LL WORK. AND I'LL SAY AS PARLIAMENTARIAN, IT'S BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO ENFORCE THAT WHEN PEOPLE COME OUT AND THEY'RE EXCITED AND THEY DON'T KNOW THERE'S A LIMIT, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S A CULTURAL CELEBRATION OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. WELL, THOSE, THOSE, WE REALLY HAVE TO, TO LIMIT A LOT. BUT, BUT EVEN WHEN IT'S LIKE JUST AN INDIVIDUAL OR A BUSINESS, THEN LIKE, THEN SOMEONE ELSE IN THE BUSINESS GONNA COME UP AND SPEAK OR THE, THE FAMILY MEMBER, WHATEVER, IT ENDS UP BEING MULTIPLIED BY THAT MANY PEOPLE AND THEN IT ENDS UP BEING TOO LONG. BUT, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK THE PRESENTATIONS ARE LIKE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS BECAUSE IT REALLY PUTS THE TOWN IN A GOOD LIGHT. AND I THINK A LOT OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO WE'VE HONORED AND RECOGNIZED, YOU KNOW, THEY APPRECIATE IT AND THEY NEVER FORGET IT. AND IT GIVES THEM A REALLY GOOD TASTE OF GOVERNMENT AND UM, YOU KNOW, SO I THINK IT'S A REAL IMPORTANT ASPECT OF, YOU KNOW, THE TOWN GOVERNMENT AND, BUT YOU KNOW, I WILL TRY MY BEST TO LIMIT IT. SO, YOU KNOW, WHEN, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HOLLY, SO SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, SO THE THING IS I'LL MAKE AN EFFORT, UM, WHEREVER POSSIBLE TO LIMIT THE NUMBERS. UM, AND YOU KNOW, BUT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THERE SHOULD BE A PROHIBITION AND, BUT DEFINITELY WILL MAKE, I UNDERSTAND [00:15:01] WHAT EVERYBODY'S SAYING AND I'LL, I'LL DO MY BEST. YOU KNOW, LIKE RIGHT NOW, UM, YOU KNOW, I WONDER, UM, RECOGNIZE A BUSINESS, UM, AT THE SECOND MEETING IN JANUARY. UM, AND I THINK I'VE ALREADY, UH, INVITED ONE OF THE, ANOTHER STUDENT ON ANOTHER MATTER, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME LIKE, I DON'T WANNA DO THIS. YOU KNOW WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL ALSO, PAUL, IS IF YOU SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH US THAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO THIS, I'LL DO THAT. SO THAT, THAT WE KNOW WHAT IT IS. I'LL DO THAT WE KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. 'CAUSE WHAT IF ONE OF US DECIDES WE'RE GONNA INVITE YOU? THAT'S FINE. I'LL, I WILL IN THE FUTURE IMMEDIATELY TELL EVERYBODY. AND THE OTHER, THE OTHER ASPECT TOO IS BEING VERY STRICT WITH OURSELVES, PAUL. AND IF SOMEONE, IF WE'RE HONORING SOMEONE, WE ASK THEM TO SPEAK, THEN JUST NOT RANDOMLY INVITING OTHERS TO FROM THE AUDIENCE TO COME UP AND SPEAK, RIGHT? MM-HMM . YES. AND SURE IS CLEAR THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN MEETINGS WHERE SOMEONE HAS COME PREPARED TO MAKE A LENGTHY SPEECH, WHICH WAS NOT WITHIN OUR KNOWLEDGE AHEAD OF TIME. UM, NOT JUST THE HONOREE. AND IF THAT'S TO BE THE CASE, THEY HAVE TO KNOW THE TIME CONSTRAINTS. BUT, AND WE HAVE TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE SPEAKING AS WELL. THAT'S FINE. I WILL DEFINITELY MAKE A MAJOR EFFORT TO, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S LIMITED AND THAT, UM, WHEN POSSIBLE I'LL TRY LIMITING IT TO LIKE ONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, OCCASIONALLY THERE MAY BE MORE, BUT I, I WILL REALLY MAKE AN EFFORT. WELL, YOU KNOW, WE JUST HAVE TO ESTABLISH THE PARAMETERS OF THAT AND PUT THAT IN THE RULES FOR PEOPLE THAT YOU CAN SHARE THAT WITH WHENEVER. YES. I, I HAVE A SUGGESTION. YEAH. I'M NOT A POLICYMAKER, BUT FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER, MAYBE YOU HAVE A HALF HOUR OVERALL LIMIT. SO IF IT'S A BIG CELEBRATION, WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH, BLACK HISTORY MONTH, IT'S A HALF HOUR. IF YOU HAVE SMALLER CELEBRATE, WELL, THOSE ARE BUSINESS. THOSE START AT SEVEN THOUGH. THOSE WOULD BE THE SEVEN TO SEVEN. I'M JUST, AND I'M THINKING IF YOU DON'T HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND IT'S AT IT'S BUSINESS OF A MONTH OR SOMEONE COMING IN TO SHOW POWERPOINT, YOU LIMIT THEM TO 10 MINUTES. YES. AND YES. THREE AT THE MOST, OR TWO, TWO AT THE MOST, WHATEVER THE BOARD, ONE AT THE MOST WHEN I SPEAK TO THEM, JUST TO LAY IT OUT WHENEVER DO WE JUST HAVE TO CODIFY IT, RIGHT. THAT'S ALL EXACTLY. WHEN I SPEAK TO THEM, I'LL SAY THE GOAL IS TO KEEP IT TO FIVE MINUTES. RIGHT. 'CAUSE YOU KNOW THE GO. RIGHT. I'D SAY PLEASE TRY KEEPING IT TO FIVE MINUTES BECAUSE WE HAVE A REGULAR AGENDA, BUT WE JUST WANNA RECOGNIZE YOU BECAUSE WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE. AND UH, BUT IT HAS TO BE QUICK BECAUSE WE HAVE A VERY LONG AGENDA. I'LL SAY THAT. YEAH. AND, AND, AND ONE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE WHATEVER IT IS. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. ONE PERSON. OKAY. THAT'S GOOD. MAYBE WE HAVE TO DO MORE SEVEN O'CLOCK IF WE KNOW IT'S GONNA, YOU'RE I WAS JUST ABOUT TO. YEAH. AND WE SHOULD ALSO ENSURE THAT THE PRESENTATION WITH THE LARGEST GROUP OF PEOPLE LIKELY GOES LAST BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE SOMETIMES THERE'S A HUGE RUSH OUT AND THEN PEOPLE ARE STUCK. WELL, THAT'S ANOTHER REASON TO HAVE ONLY ONE . IT'S EMBARRASSING. ALL THE PEOPLE MESS AND YES. THE CHILD GETS UP AND THEY WONDER. YEAH. OKAY. OKAY. AND IT'S NOISY TO CHANGE OUR RULES TO REFLECT THAT WE, WE DON'T ALWAYS START AT SEVEN 30. WE, UM, WE RESERVE THE RIGHT TO START AT 7:00 PM MM-HMM . IT'S GONNA BE, UH, PRESENTATIONS. RIGHT? YEAH. I MEAN, BUT YOU SHOULD BE, YOU SHOULDN'T BE SAYING, YOU KNOW, TRY TO DO, GIVE 'EM A TIME LIMIT, WHATEVER THAT TIME, TIME IS, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO OKAY, NO PROBLEM. THEY SHOULD BE ABLE TO KNOW IN ADVANCE WHAT THEIR PRESENTATION IS. I MEAN, ONE OF THE THING WENT ON FOR 45 MINUTES. CORRECT. I ASSUME THAT WAS TOLD TRY TO KEEP IT AT FIVE. RIGHT? UM, THINK UNFORTUNATELY IT WASN'T, IT WAS TOLD FREE FOR ALL. YEAH. NO, IT CAN'T FREE FOR ALL. OKAY. SO THAT CAN'T, YEAH. SO, AND IT'S, AND YOU NEED, IT'S ONLY RESPECTFUL OF THEM TO TELL 'EM IN ADVANCE BECAUSE IT'S A DIFFERENT WAY OF PREPARING OF COURSE. FOR FIVE MINUTES VERSUS 30 MINUTES. YEAH. I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THREE MUSICAL PERFORMANCES IF, YOU KNOW, YOU ONLY HAVE 10 MINUTES. CORRECT. THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF WE CODIFY IT IN WRITING, THAT CAN BE SHARED WITH WHOMEVER IT IS THAT WE'RE HONORING. YEAH. SO THAT THEY HAVE THAT CRITERIA AND IT TAKES THE ONUS OF OFF OF YOU, UM, SUPERVISOR OF TRYING TO ESTABLISH THE PARAMETERS AND SAY, WE'D DEP APPRECIATE IF YOU TRY. IT GIVES THEM THE PARAMETERS. AND I LIKE THE PRESENTATIONS. IT'S JUST THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ORGANIZED. OKAY. DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT. IT WILL BE, BE IMPROVED AND BETTER. OKAY. ALRIGHT. OKAY. SO WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH ALL THIS RIGHT NOW. RIGHT. UM, UM, I CAN SPEAK ON FOUR. NUMBER FOUR. ALRIGHT. I WAS PLANNING TO GO THROUGH WITH A FINE TOOTH. YEAH. AND THAT'S WHY WHEN WE STARTED, I SAID THERE WILL BE MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO GO OVER EACH OF THE ITEMS. IT'S JUST THINGS THAT I JUST WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO I JUST NOTED. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. UM, ON, UH, PAGE FOUR, [00:20:01] THERE IS, UM, RE REGARDING, UM, LEGAL NOTICES. AND, UM, WE HAVE CAN YOU HOLD ON A MOMENT BECAUSE I'M LOOKING ONLINE AND IT'S NOT BROKEN OUT ACCORDING TO PAGES. WHAT NUMBER ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? OH, I'M SO SORRY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UH, SHALL HAVE, UH, NO DESIGNATION OF NEWSPAPERS, OFFICIAL NEWSPAPER . YOU'RE ON THE REORGANIZATION, YOU'RE ON REORGANIZATION OR RULES AND OH, WE'RE BACK TO RULES. I'M SORRY. NO, NO. WE WERE ON RULES UNDER REORGANIZATION. OH, NO PROBLEM. ON THE REORG. RE OH, NO PROBLEM. GO BACK TO RULES. NO, WE'RE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME, SO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY OH, OKAY. NO PROBLEM. NO, BUT ISN'T SHE LOOKING AT REORGANIZATION? OKAY. YES, YES, YES. UM, THE, UM, JUST RE REGARDING THE UHHUH JOURNAL, UM, THE JOURNAL NEWS, UH, THE RIVER TOWNS DISPATCH, WESTCHESTER COUNTY PRESS, AND WE HAVE, UM, UH, I ADDED A SUBSCRIPTION TO THE NEW YORK TIMES. 'CAUSE THOSE WILL BE THE FOUR OFFICIAL, UH, PAPERS AS I'VE, I WENT OVER THIS WITH OUR TOWN ATTORNEY AND WE ARE GOING TO, UM, UM, DECIDE, UM, WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE A FURTHER RESOLVED OR IT'S GOING TO JUST BE WITH THE FIRST RESOLVED AS FAR AS THE THREE, UM, ALTERNATIVE PAPERS. UM, NOW, SUPERVISOR FINER, YOU SAID YOU HAD A PAPER THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD TO THESE COUNCIL RIVER TOWNS DISPATCH THAT THE DISPATCH OH YEAH, NO, NO, NO. THEN, OKAY, SO LET ME ASK A QUESTION. WHY DO WE NEED THE NEW YORK TIMES? BECAUSE, UH, BECAUSE WE NEED FOUR OFFICIAL, UM, FOUR OFFICIAL NEWSPAPERS THAT HAVE THE CIRCULATION THAT CAN, UM, HANDLE THE TOWN, RIGHT, THE TOWN, THE CODE THAT, UM, THE, I'M SORRY, MUNICIPAL LAW OF US HAVING THE FOUR. UM, FOUR. WHY, WHY DON'T YOU DO THE WESTCHESTER BUSINESS JOURNAL INSTEAD OF THE TIMES BECOMES CHEAPER? OKAY. THEN THAT CAN BE OUR ALTERNATIVE. RIGHT. I'M SAYING THE TIMES IS THAT YOU TAKE OUT, IT'S GONNA BE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FOR, AND YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE DON'T REALLY, I MEAN, I THINK THAT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, I JUST PAID $4 FOR IT FOR THE NO, THE NEW YORK TIMES EIGHT TIMES THE TIMES IS VERY EXPENSIVE FOR THE LEGAL ADS. I, AND YOU KNOW, THE BUSINESS JOURNAL IS GONNA BE LESS EXPENSIVE AND THEY COVER LOCAL NEWS SO MORE. RIGHT. BUT MORE PEOPLE ARE GONNA, BUT WHAT BUT WHAT'S THEIR CIRCULATION? AND THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE ISSUE. THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A, THEY HAVE A, OH ACTUALLY I'M NOT SURE IF THERE IS STILL PRINT. I THINK IT'S, UH, RIGHT NOW. EXACTLY. AND THESE HAVE TO BE PRINT. THAT'S WHY I DID MY RESEARCH. AND THAT'S SHOULD CHANGE THAT LAW BECAUSE NO ONES READING NEWSPAPERS. CORRECT. CERTAINLY NOT LEGAL ADS IN THE NEWSPAPER. NO. MOST THE BUSINESS LEGAL ADS IN NEWSPAPERS. WELL, DON'T YOU? YES. THE BUSINESS JOURNAL, WHICH CASE I'D LIKE TO MAKE OTHER SUGGESTIONS. YES. BECAUSE THE, THE RIVER TOWNS DISPATCH PRIMARILY COVERS HASTINGS DOS, FER DOS FERRY, UM, UM, UP THROUGH IRV, IRV, IRVINGTON AND ARDSLEY. BUT IT DOES NOT COVER TARRYTOWN. THE HUDSON INDEPENDENT DOES. SO IF WE CHANGE IT TO BEING STRICTLY ONLINE, WE SHOULD CONSIDER HUDSON INDEPENDENT THAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE STATE LEGISLATION WOULD YEAH. YOU CAN'T DO STRICTLY ONLINE, BUT THE OTHER TO BE A PRINT. YEAH. THE OTHER THING IS, OH, I THOUGHT THAT YOU WERE SAYING WE SHOULD CHANGE THAT AND I DIDN'T. WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE. YEAH. WE'D NEED STATE LEGISLATION TO CHANGE THAT ACTUALLY. UH, THE RIVER JOURNAL, UH, IS, UH, COVERS IRVINGTON, EAST IRVINGTON AND TARRYTOWN. AND UM, THAT THEY HAVE IT THAT'S, THEY SEND OUT, UM, TO EVERYBODY IN THE AREA. IT'S A WRITTEN PUBLIC, IT'S A WRITTEN PUBLICATION. SO YOU COULD, IF YOU GO RIVER JOURNAL, THEY'RE BASED IN SLEEPY HOLLOW AND THEY DO LEGAL NOTICES, I'M SURE THEY'LL TAKE IT. I DON'T THINK THEY DO. I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT THE DISPATCH DOES LEGAL NOTICES. DO THEY? WELL, THEY'LL DO THE RIVER TOWN. YES. NO, NO, NO. DO COULD GET THE MONEY. I THINK IT'S ALSO RIVER TOWNS. NOT RIVER TOWN. YEAH. RIVER TOWNS. OKAY. I KNOW THERE'S A POLITICAL ASPECT OF THIS, BUT, UH, PUTTING NOTICES IN THE RIVERTOWN PAPERS FOR ZONING CODE CHANGES IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA IS, IS NOT APPROPRIATE. RIGHT. BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE JUST OKAY, YOU KNOW, FOR POLITICS, WE WANT TO GIVE YOU THIS BUSINESS. IT HAS TO BE A CHANCE OF SOMEBODY ACTUALLY READING THAT LEGAL NOTICE AND IT HAVING SOME MEANING. SO WHEN WE DO A ZONING CODE AMENDMENT OR THINGS LIKE THAT, IT SHOULD BE IN A PAPER THAT ACTUALLY IS CIRCULATED IN THE ED. THERE'S NO PAPERS. THERE IS NO PAPERS OTHER THAN THE JOURNAL NEWS IS STILL PRINTING. OH YEAH. WHAT'S ON THE JOURNAL NEWS RIGHT THERE HAVE ONE OF THEM. I'M SAYING THAT THE, THE RIVERTOWN DISPATCH AND ALL THOSE ARE GREAT WHEN WE'RE DOING TOWN WIDE NOTICES. RIGHT. THINGS THAT AFFECT THE ENTIRE TOWN. BUT WHEN IT GETS TO LAND USE ISSUES, WHICH WE ONLY, WHICH IS ALL WE HAVE CONTROL OVER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER CHOICE WE HAVE, BUT THE JOURNAL NEWS. WELL THAT'S FINE. ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE, THE LAW IS WE HAVE TO PUBLISH IN FOUR PAPERS? IS [00:25:01] THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? NOT IN FOUR PAPERS. WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE FOUR AVAILABLE. AM I CORRECT MS. OKAY. YES. YOU HAVE THE . SIMPLE AS THAT. VERY GOOD. YES. YOU HAVE THE JOURNAL AND WOLF FED EACH OPTION BEFORE YOU HAVE AN OFFICIAL VOTE. THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT? CORRECT. MM-HMM . AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT ABOUT BLACK WEST? I'M LOOKING AT A COPY OF THE DISPATCH NOW. I DON'T, THAT WAS MY THIRD ONE. I DON'T ANY LEGAL NOTICES IN THE DISPATCH. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S JUST THIS ISSUE BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT ONE ISSUE. NO, BUT I THINK THEY WERE GONNA VET THAT AGAIN, ELLEN. THEY JUST SAID THAT THEY'RE GONNA VET THAT AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DISPATCH WILL BE ABLE TO DOES THAT AS LEGAL NOTICES. DONE. DONE. THIS IS JUST A DRAFT. SO THIS STILL, THERE STILL APPEARS TO BE, TO BE DONE COUNCILWOMAN. YES. UM, BOTH OF YOU , UH, WE'VE, UM, ALREADY BACK FROM THE MIC BECAUSE YOU COME INTO, YOU COME. YES. OKAY, GO AHEAD. SURE. UH, WE HAVE ALREADY CHECKED WITH THEM AND WE HAVE A, WE HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION. EVERYONE THAT I'M SUGGESTING SUGGEST SHOULD SUGGESTIONS YES. SUGGESTING WE RIGHT. THANK YOU. THAT WE HAVE SUBSCRIPTIONS WITH THEM AND THEY HAVE LEGAL NOTICES AND THEY ARE PUBLISHING AND THEY HAVE CIRCULATION. THAT'S WHY MY, WHEN I, WHEN I SPOKE WITH, UM, MR. DANKO, THAT'S WHY I SAID, UM, THE, UM, WESTCHESTER HISPANICO, I THINK IT MIGHT BE CENTO CENTRO. SO I HAVE TO CHECK CENTRO HISPANIC IS CENTRO HISPANIC? IT'S THE LOCATION PAPER. OH, IT'S NOT A PAPER. AND ALSO IN, I DON'T KNOW. AND WE ALSO HAVE A SUBSCRIPTION TO, UH, THE WESTCHESTER, WESTCHESTER BLACK MAGAZINE. WHO WILL, THERE IS THE HISPANIC, THERE IS AN HISPANIC PAPER. PAPER. A DIFFERENT NAME CALLED WESTCHESTER HISPANICO. WESTCHESTER HISPANICO. OKAY. IT'S, I HAVE, I'M SAYING IT SAYS WESTCHESTER HISPANICO YOUR COMMUNITY NEWSPAPER. OKAY. UM, AND MAYBE YOU COULD JUST ASK MARIA , UH, WHICH, UH, HISPANIC NEWSPAPER, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S A FEW. OKAY. UH, SHE WOULD RECOMMEND, UM, WELL THAT, THAT ONE IT GETS THE MOST CIRCULATION. IT'S IN EVERY DINER AND EVERY, UH, IS WELL READ BY THE HISPANIC WELL, THE COUNTY PRESS PRESSES WILDLY CIRCULATED. CORRECT. RIGHT. AND WE, AND WE ALSO, UH, SECURED A SUBSCRIPTION TO THEM AS WELL. OKAY. AND, UM, AND ALSO, UH, SECURED, UH, SUBSCRIPTION AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO, UH, BLACK WESTERN MAG MAGAZINE. SO THOSE WERE THE THREE THAT I WAS SUGGESTING, UH, WAS, UM, THE, UH, WESTCHESTER HISPANICO WESTCHESTER BLACK MAGAZINE. AND THEN, UH, UH, MR. DANKO TOLD ME THAT THE SUPERVISOR HAD HAD ONE, BUT THAT'S WHY DON'T YOU GIVE ALL THE NAMES TO THE TOWN ATTORNEY AND HE CAN BET THEM WE WILL. YEP. YEP. THANK YOU. OKAY. OKAY. OKAY. WE SHOULD PROBABLY MOVE TO MOTION AND CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION ON JANUARY 6TH. OKAY. SO WE'RE GOING INTO EXECUTIVE SESSION. NO SPECIAL MEETING? NO, NO. EXECUTIVE SESSION AFTER THE SPECIAL MEETINGS. AFTER THE EXECUTIVE SESSION. OKAY. PAUL, CAN YOU MAKE THE MOTION, PLEASE? I MAKE A, A MOTION TO GO INTO THE EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR, FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS, SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS, UM, AND TO CONDUCT AN INTERVIEW. SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR? SECOND. AYE. AYE, AYE. AND WE WILL BE COMING BACK. OH, THAT'S RIGHT. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.