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[ TOWN OF GREENBURGH OFFICE OF THE TOWN BOARD 177 Hillside Avenue, Greenburgh, NY 10607 Tel: 914-989-1525 Fax: 914-993-1541 https://greenburghny.com/485/Watch-Live-Board-Meetings ]
TODAY IS JANUARY 13TH AND, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FROM KEN JONES, FORMER COUNCILMAN RELATING TO, UH, THEIR PROPOSED BANNER PROJECT.THANK YOU FOR ENTERTAINING ME THIS EVENING.
UM, AS I MENTIONED THAT I BELIEVE, IF NOT THE LAST, UH, PUBLIC MEETING WITH THE MEETING BEFORE, UM, WE'VE BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY ON THE GREENBERG BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM INITIATIVE ON OUR LATEST PRODUCT PROJECT, WHICH IS THIS BANNER PROJECT.
UM, YOU'VE PROBABLY SEEN SIMILAR BANNERS HANGING IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS.
UM, I KNOW PARTICULARLY IN MOUNT PLEASANT, THEY HAVE, UH, BANNERS ON THEIR, UM, UH, LIGHT POLES, UH, HONORING VETERANS OF, OF, UM, OF, OF PRIOR WARS.
UM, OUR IDEA WAS TO HONOR, UM, UH, CITIZENS FROM GREENBERG, UM, WHO HAVE, UM, EXHIBITED, UM, EXCELLENCE IN LEADERSHIP, UH, CULTURAL AND ARTISTIC INFLUENCE, SOCIAL IMPACT, PEOPLE WHO'VE HAD AN ENDURING LEGACY.
UM, OUR GOAL IS TO, UM, WORK WITH YOU AT THE TOWN BOARD, UM, IF YOU'RE IN, UH, SUPPORT OF THE INITIATIVE, UH, TO, TO, UH, COME UP WITH A PLACE, UM, UH, TO HANG THE BANNERS, UH, AS WELL AS TO SOLICIT YOUR, UM, SUGGESTIONS FOR ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.
I KNOW, PAUL, YOU MADE A WONDERFUL SUGGESTION ABOUT THE AMBASSADOR WHO BOUGHT, UH, MADAM CJ WALKER'S HOME, UH, TO BE INCLUDED.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PERSON.
UM, SO IF ANY OF THE OTHERS OF YOU ALSO HAVE SUGGESTIONS, UM, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TOO.
UM, AND, UM, AM AMBASSADOR OR CJ WALKER, THE AMBASSADOR, MADAM CJ WALKER IS INCLUDED ALREADY.
THIS IS THE PERSON WHO PUR PURCHASED HER HOME, UM, AND RE REFURBISHED IT.
UM, AND, UH, THEY, THEY, DO THEY LIVE THERE OR THEY, HE LIVES, UH, NOW AT 50 EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, DALE.
MORE SIGNIFICANTLY IS THE DEED RESTRICTION, RIGHT? THAT IT CAN'T REALLY BE MODIFIED.
UM, SO, AND, UM, THE, WHAT THE ONLY SORT OF, UM, IN ADDITION TO, UH, THE STREETS WHERE IT WOULD HANG, ANY ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS? UH, THE ONLY ADDITIONAL HELP THAT WE WOULD BE SEEKING FROM THE TOWN, UM, IS THE ASSISTANCE OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS AND HANGING THE BANNERS THEMSELVES.
QUESTIONS TWO, TWO CLARIFICATIONS.
NUMBER ONE, WHEN WE SAY THE TOWN OF GREENBERG, THAT INCLUDES FROM THE VILLAGES, OF COURSE.
JUST WANTED FOR ANYONE LISTENING, I WANTED THEM TO YES, ABSOLUTELY.
AND THIS IS, IT'S, WE HAVE NO JURISDICTION OVER THAT.
WELL, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HANG THEM THERE, BUT IF THEY HAD SUGGESTIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO, WHO, YOU KNOW, WERE IN THEIR COMMUNITIES THAT THEY THINK MIGHT FIT THE CRITERIA, AND WE JUST TALKED ABOUT TWO OF THEM THERE, THERE WE GO.
AND, UM, AND THE OTHER IS FOR, AND MAYBE YOU SAID THIS, FOR THE DURATION OF BLACK HISTORY MONTH OR FOR LONGER, WHAT IS THE, UH, UM, OUR GOAL WOULD, WOULD BE TO HAVE THEM HANG LONGER.
UM, IT'S, IT'S OUR POSITION THAT WHILE THEY WOULD GO UP IN BLACK HISTORY MONTH AS A CELEBRATION OF BLACK HISTORY, IT REALLY IS ABOUT CITIZENS OF GREENBURG, YOU KNOW, WHO HAVE DONE THINGS AND THEY JUST HAPPEN TO BE BLACK, YOU KNOW? UM, SO, BUT BECAUSE WE ARE THE BLACK HISTORY MUSEUM INITIATIVE, YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHY THAT IS
OUR, OUR BANNERS THAT WE HAVE IN DOBBS FAIR FOR VETERANS, THEY HANG ALL, ALL YEAR ROUND.
UM, WELL, THEY'RE BEING MADE BY THE SAME PERSON WHO, OR THE SAME COMPANY THAT MADE THEM IN, UM, CROTON.
UM, AND THOSE HAVE BEEN HANGING FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW.
SO I, I THINK THAT THEY'RE FAIRLY DURABLE, ALTHOUGH I CAN'T SAY EXACTLY HOW DURABLE, YOU KNOW, THE ONLY SUGGESTION, YOU KNOW, I HAD IS I THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE NICE IF WE PUT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE OPTIONS WOULD BE TO PUT THE BANNERS WHERE THE PERSON LIVED.
UH, SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE INTERESTING IF, YOU KNOW, THERE'S SO MANY PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, IMPRESSED THAT CAMP CALLOWAY OR ROY CAMPANELLA LIVED IN THE COMMUNITY.
IF WE HAD BANNERS NEAR THEIR HISTORIC, UM, HOMES, UH, I THINK IT WOULD MAKE, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT WOULD BE SORT OF NICE.
OR WE COULD TAKE LIKE ONE STREET, LIKE MANHATTAN AVENUE AND LINE IT UP, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH BANNERS SINCE THAT IN SOME WAYS IS, UM, A GATEWAY TO, UM, THE, THE FAIRVIEW COMMUNITY, UM, YOU KNOW, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND WE WOULDN'T NEED STATE PERMISSION, BUT, UM MM-HMM
YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE TWO IDEAS.
AND THAT GOES TO THE QUESTION OF WHERE WERE YOU THINKING OF HANGING THEM? RIGHT.
UM, WELL, WE WERE THINKING WHEN WE HAD THOUGHT ABOUT
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SOMEPLACE LIKE MANHATTAN AVENUE, UM, WE THOUGHT, WELL, WHILE IT IS A GOOD IDEA, UM, IT MIGHT BE NICE TO SHARE THE WEALTH WITH OTHER PARTS OF THE TOWN WHO MIGHT NOT BE SO FAMILIAR WITH, YOU KNOW, AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY AND THE TOWN.UM, SO THAT WAS THE ONLY DRAWBACK WE THOUGHT ABOUT WITH, WITH YOUR, BUT I THINK, WELL, I THINK IT'S NICE TO HAVE A CRITICAL MASS OF THEM THAT IT, IT MAKES IT VERY IMPRESSIVE WHEN SORT OF LIKE YOU'RE GOING DOWN, UH, A STREET AND YOU SEE ONE AFTER THE OTHER.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THE IDEA OF PUTTING THEM IN PEOPLE'S HOMES, BUT THEN IT'S VERY DISPERSED MM-HMM.
AND DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME VISUAL IMPACT.
AND SOME OF THOSE LOCATIONS MIGHT BE OBSCURE IN PEOPLE.
THERE MIGHT BE VERY FEW PEOPLE GET TO SEE THEM.
SO, YOU KNOW, AND YOU COULD DO BOTH.
I MEAN, IT MAY BE THAT FOR A PERIOD OF TIME THEY HANG IN ONE AREA, AND THEN AS TIME GOES ON AND THEY GET TAKEN DOWN, MAYBE THEN THEY COULD GO REMAIN BY WHERE, BY BY COUNCILWOMAN JACKSON, MAYBE THEN THEY COULD BE HUNG IN FRONT OF THE, THE PLACES WHERE THE PEOPLE LIVE.
THAT WAY THERE BECOME PERMANENT MARKERS ANNOUNCING WHERE, UH, HISTORIC PE PEOPLE OF HISTORIC INTERESTS LIVED IN THE TOWN.
SO IT'S JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT OR SOME SORT OF GUIDE ONLINE SURE.
TO WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED, THE ADDRESS OF THOSE HISTORICAL FIGURES.
BUT THEN AGAIN, THE PEOPLE WHO NOW RESIDE THERE MIGHT NOT BE HAPPY ABOUT THAT EITHER.
IT'S A PUSH ME PULL YOU SORT OF SITUATION, UNFORTUNATELY, BUT I'M SURE WE COULD WORK IT OUT.
AND YOU LOOK AT 10 BANNERS THIS YEAR AND SAY NEXT YEAR YOU COULD DO ANOTHER FIVE OR 10 AND YOU COULD KEEP EXPANDING.
AND, AND WHILE WE HAVE 10, NOW, I BELIEVE WE RESERVED FIVE OR SIX SPACES FOR ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD MIGHT HAVE.
SO, UM, WE COULD INCLUDE THOSE SUGGESTIONS IN ADDITION.
SO I THINK THE TOTAL NUMBER WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 15.
SO DOES ANYBODY, IF IT'S GOING TO START, UH, IF IT'S GOING TO BE KICKED OFF DURING BLACK HISTORY MM-HMM
WELL, WE HAVE 10 COMPLETED ALREADY.
SO IF YOU HAVE SUGGESTIONS, PLEASE GET THEM TO ME AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT, THAT EVERYTHING CAN BE COMPLETED ON TIME.
AND IT'S ALSO DEPENDENT ON DPW SCHEDULE.
AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHERE WE, YOU KNOW, REALLY WE'RE RELYING ON YOU IN SOME WAYS TO TELL US WHERE WE CAN HANG THEM.
UM, SO THINK ABOUT THAT, UM, AND, AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOU'RE THINKING.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THAT WOULD REALLY BE THE ONLY, THAT WOULD BE THE, THE SORT OF LAST HURDLE, UM, TO, TO, TO, TO, TO CLEAR.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AN OPENING RECEPTION AT THE LIBRARY, UM, WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, UM, IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU GUYS AS WELL.
HAVE IN, IN CASE IT'S DECIDED THAT IT'S ON THE STREET THAT IS STATE OWNED, FOR INSTANCE, IN, IN, UH, IN AN EFFORT TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS, HAVE YOU REACHED OUT TO SEE IF THAT WOULD BE PERMISSIBLE? UM, WELL, WE JUST SORT OF ASSUMED THAT IT WOULD BE ON A TOWN ROAD.
THAT WAY WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO JUMP OVER EXTRA HURDLES.
AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE COMING TO YOU.
YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE IT JUST ADDS AN EXTRA LAYER OF MISSION.
SO ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS OR, BECAUSE I WAS OKAY.
JUST COME UP WITH SOME SUGGEST IF YOU HAVE A LIST OF SUGGESTED STREETS, THINK YOU'VE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
UM, AND DOING SOME HERE AT TOWN HALL TOO.
I MEAN, WE HAVE, YEAH, I WAS THINKING OF TOWN HALL AND I WAS THINKING HILLSIDE, BUT YEAH.
I'LL FOLLOW UP AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU GUYS TOGETHER ON THIS PROJECT.
SO THEN WE'LL START, IT KEPT TO YOUR WINDOW TIME WINDOW.
ISN'T THAT
AND YOU KNOW, IF NOT FEBRUARY 1ST, YOU KNOW, SOMETIME AS CLOSE AS WE CAN SOMETIME IN FEBRUARY.
IS THERE A FEBRUARY 30TH THIS YEAR? NO.
JUST IN CASE YOU'RE QUESTIONING THAT.
HAPPY, HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU ALL MOM AS WELL.
UH, NEXT WE'RE GONNA, UH, HAVE A DISCUSSION OF, UM, A PRESENTATION BY COLLIERS ENGINEERING AND DESIGN.
AND CJ AND JASON, WE JUST REALLY WANT TO, IF YOU WANT TO GRAB ANOTHER CHAIR, ARE ARE YOU ALL GONNA COME TO THE TABLE? WE CAN COME.
JUST BE COGNIZANT OF THE MICROPHONES.
THERE ARE THREE OF THEM FOR FOUR OF YOU.
SO JUST PULL THEM OVER TO YOU WHEN YOU'RE READY TO SPEAK.
AND IF YOU WOULD INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, I'D APPRECIATE IT.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR, UH, JOINING US.AND BASICALLY WE WANT TO, UH, SHARE WITH THE PUBLIC, UH, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT, UH, THE SEWER, UH, UH, BREAK REPAIRS AND SORT OF LIKE AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE SO PEOPLE WOULD KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING AND, UH, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS COULD BE ANSWERED.
I, UM, PREPARED A LITTLE SUMMARY OF, OF WHAT WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF? YEAH.
YEAH, I WAS, I WAS GONNA JUST READ THROUGH THIS SUMMARY AND THEN QUESTION.
WE APPRECIATE YOU GETTING A HAIRCUT BEFORE THIS
SO, UH, THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.
UM, ALLOW ME TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
I'M THE DEPUTY TOWN ENGINEER HERE AT THE TOWN OF GREENBURG.
WITH ME HERE TODAY ARE JASON CAP, THE TOWN ENGINEER FOR GREENBERG AND TWO MEMBERS OF THE DESIGN CONSULTANT TEAM ED MDI AND JOSEPH ALD, WHO ARE WITH COLLIERS ENGINEERING AND DESIGN.
WE ARE ALL LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS WHO ARE HERE TONIGHT TO PROVIDE AN UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF THE SEWER BRAKE REPAIR AT 100 EAST HARSDALE AVENUE.
FOR A LITTLE BACKGROUND, THE TOWN OWNED SEWER LINE IS APPROXIMATELY 90 YEARS OLD AND RUNS UNDERNEATH A 60-YEAR-OLD, EIGHT AND A HALF STORY APARTMENT BUILDING.
THE BREAK OCCURRED IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING WHERE AN APPROXIMATELY 35 FOOT DEEP MANHOLE COLLAPSED, ALONG WITH THE PIPING CONNECTED TO IT.
PART OF THAT BROKEN PIPING EXTENDS UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING, MAKING THIS A VERY COMPLEX AND SENSITIVE REPAIR.
ADDING TO THAT COMPLEXITY IS THAT THIS PROJECT IS LOCATED TOTALLY WITHIN PRIVATE PROPERTY WHERE THE TOWN'S JURISDICTION AND OPT JURISDICTION AND OPTIONS ARE LIMITED.
NEVERTHELESS, I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION THAT THE BUILDING'S PROPERTY MANAGEMENT HAS BEEN VERY COOPERATIVE THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS.
FURTHERING THE PROJECT COMPLEXITY EVEN MORE IS THE LACK OF RECORD DRAWINGS FOR THE BUILDING.
NO FOUNDATION PLANS OR UNDERGROUND PLUMBING PLANS FROM THE 1960S WHEN THE BUILDING WAS BUILT ARE AVAILABLE.
THIS SIGNIFICANTLY INCREASES THE SAFETY CONCERN WITH ANY WORK PLANNED TO TAKE PLACE UNDERNEATH THE BUILDING.
WITH THIS IN MIND, THE TEAM RECORDED FIELD DATA AND ANALYZED SEVERAL ALTERNATIVES FOR HOW TO REPAIR THE SEWER LINE BEFORE DECIDING ON THE SELECTED ALTERNATIVE, WHICH INVOLVES REROUTING THE SEWER MAIN AROUND THE BUILDING IN LIEU OF GOING THROUGH IT AS IT DOES CURRENTLY.
THE SELECTED REPAIR APPROACH WAS EVALUATED BY A NUMBER OF ENGINEERS, BOTH IN-HOUSE AND EXTERNAL, BESIDES THE, BESIDES THE FOUR OF US HERE AND OUR TEAMS. THE TOWN ALSO BROUGHT IN AN, AN INDEPENDENT THIRD PARTY DESIGN CONSULTANT TO EVALUATE SEVERAL ALTERNATIVE REPAIR METHODS AND THEIR FINDINGS AGREE WITH THE CHOSEN METHOD.
TWO DIFFERENT ALTERNATIVE EVALUATION REPORTS WERE WRITTEN, WERE WRITTEN ONE BY COLLIERS AND THE OTHER BY THE THIRD PARTY CON CONSULTANT.
CHARLES A MANGAN CONSULTING ENGINEERS, THE PROPERTY OWNER, STRUCTURAL ENGINEER, AND THE PROPERTY MANAGER OF THE BUILDING ALSO INDICATED THAT THEY BELIEVE THIS IS THE OPTIMAL REPAIR METHOD.
I CAN GO INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE EVALUATION PROCESS AND THE ALTERNATIVES NOT CHOSEN IF THE BOARD WOULD LIKE.
BUT IN THE INTEREST OF TIME, I'M HAPPY TO MOVE ON TO THE CURRENT STATUS OF THE PROJECT.
ALSO, THE, ALSO THE TWO ALTERNATIVE EVALUATION REPORTS COULD BE MADE AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO, TO SEE THEM.
THE TOWN RECENTLY RECEIVED A 90% DESIGN PLAN FROM COLLIERS.
THIS KEEPS US ON TRACK FOR PUTTING THE PROJECT OUT TO BID IN THE SPRING.
HOWEVER, THERE ARE SEVERAL NON-TECHNICAL MILESTONES THAT NEED TO BE MET FIRST BEFORE WORK CAN BEGIN.
ONE OF THESE MILESTONES IS EXECUTING SEV.
ONE OF THESE MILESTONES IS EXECUTING SEVERAL NEW EASEMENT AND LICENSE AGREEMENTS WITH THE SURROUNDING PROPERTY OWNERS, WHICH ALSO NEED TO BE AGREED TO BY THE PROPERTY'S INSURANCE CARRIER.
SEVERAL OF THESE AGREEMENTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETE AND SEVERAL STILL REMAIN.
ANOTHER MILESTONE IS RECEIVING APPROVAL FROM THE WESTCHESTER COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH.
THEY WILL ONLY REVIEW 100% COMPLETE DESIGN DOCUMENTS, WHICH THE TOWN AND COLLEGE EXPECT TO SUBMIT IN THE NEXT MONTH.
HEALTH DEPARTMENT REVIEW CAN SOMETIMES BE A LENGTHY PROCESS, BUT THE TOWN PLANS, THE TOWN PLANS TO MEET, DISCUSS, AND COORDINATE WITH THE COUNTY AND MULTIPLE LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT TO HELP FACILITATE AN EXPEDITED REVIEW.
THE LAST OF THESE NON-TECHNICAL MILESTONES IS BONDING THE FUNDING FOR THIS PROJECT.
HOWEVER, BONDING IS NOT EXPECTED TO DELAY THE PROJECT.
WE HAVE THE FUNDING IN THE CAPITAL BUDGET.
THE COST ESTIMATE FOR THIS PROJECT HAS RANGED FROM APPROXIMATELY 8 MILLION TO $16 MILLION WITH THE HIGH END OF THAT RANGE, INCLUDING ADDITIONAL WORK SUCH AS REHABILITATION OF THE SEWER MAIN UPSTREAM OF THE BREAK, WHICH IS LOCATED IN A FLOODPLAIN AND IS ALSO IN NEED OF REPAIR.
IT ALSO ACCOUNTS FOR FIELD CONDITIONS THAT CANNOT BE KNOWN UNTIL THE PROJECT STARTS.
EXAMPLES OF THESE CONTINGENCIES INCLUDE ADDITIONAL GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT MEASURES AND THE POSSIBLE NEED FOR DISPOSAL OF CONTAMINATED SOIL CONSTRUCTION IS EXPECTED TO TAKE SEVEN MONTHS TO COMPLETE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC WILL BE MAINTAINED ON EAST DALE AVENUE DURING CONSTRUCTION BY REDUCING THE SPEED LIMIT IN THE CONSTRUCTION ZONE TO 15 MILES PER HOUR AND REDUCING THE WIDTH OF THE TRAFFIC LANES TO 10 FEET, WHICH IS THE STATE MINIMUM, AND WILL STILL ALLOW FOR BUSES AND TRUCKS TO PASS.
SIGNS WILL BE POSTED NOTIFYING DRIVERS TO EXPECT DELAYS AND TO SEEK ALTERNATE ROUTES.
THERE WILL BE A NEED FOR BRIEF INTERMITTENT LANE CLOSURES TO ALLOW FOR MATERIAL DELIVERIES.
THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF 101 20 EAST HARSDALE AVENUE WILL BE CLOSED FOR SEVERAL MONTHS DURING CONSTRUCTION.
DURING THIS TIME, PEDESTRIANS WILL BE REQUIRED TO USE THE CROSSWALKS LOCATED ON EITHER SIDE OF THE
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CONSTRUCTION ZONE TO CROSS TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STREET.THIS WILL BE VERY SIMILAR TO WHEN THE SIDEWALK WAS PREVIOUSLY CLOSED.
THE CONTRACTOR WILL PROVIDE A FLAGGER AT THE LEWIS AVENUE CROSSWALK DURING CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITIES TO, TO ASSIST PEDESTRIANS CROSSING THE STREET.
PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, ALONG WITH ALL SITE CONDITIONS WILL BE MONITORED AND MONITORED AND EVALUATED DURING CONSTRUCTION.
AND ADJUSTMENTS WILL BE MADE IF THEY'RE FOUND TO BE NECESSARY.
WITH THAT, WE ARE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THE TOWN BOARD MAY HAVE, UM, QUESTIONS CAME IN.
SOMEBODY, UH, SAID, UH, DO YOU AN, COULD YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BIDDING PROCESS AND UM, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WOULD BE DONE BY THE SAME COMPANY? UM, OR, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IT WILL BE TOTALLY OPEN BID.
SO THE SAME COMPANY, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THAT MEANS.
WE HAD, WE HAD AN EMERGENCY CONTRACTOR RIGHT, THAT CAME TO INITIALLY SET UP THE BYPASS SYSTEM.
AND THEY ARE, THEY ARE, YOU KNOW, OPEN TO TO, TO BID ON THE, IT'S OPEN BID TO ANY, ANY QUALIFIED CONTRACTOR CAN BID ON THE, ON THE WORK TO PERFORM THE WORK.
AND, UM, WILL THERE BE A PEN? WILL WE, WHEN WE DO THE, UH, BIDDING, HAVE, UH, PENALTIES FOR FINISHING THE DESIGN, UM, ON TIME? AND IF NOT, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHY NOT, YOU KNOW, SO, AND SOME CONTRACTS IS, UH, THESE PENALTIES OR INCENTIVES TO GET IT DONE QUICKER.
I, I, I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AND WHAT I'VE FOUND PERSONALLY IS THAT THERE'S, THEY, THE, THE MUNICIPALITY DOESN'T, CHOOSES NOT TO FOLLOW UP ON A LOT OF THOSE PENALTIES.
YOU END UP IN LITIGATION, YOU END UP DRAGGING THINGS OUT IN COURT.
IT'S USUALLY IN, IN, I'VE BEEN IN PROJECTS WHERE IT'S, IT'S A STANDARD IN A LOT OF OTHER CONTRACTS BUT DOESN'T EVER ACTUALLY GET DONE.
AND, AND I'D JUST LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT SAFETY IS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY HERE.
SO WE WOULD HATE TO SAY YOU HAVE TO MEET THESE MANDATORY GUIDELINES, RUSH, RUSH, RUSH, AND NOT GET IT DONE.
SO WE HAD THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE ENGINEERS PRIOR TO, AND WE SHOULD BE MOVING TO THE BEST OF OUR ABILITY AND REDUCING THE INCONVENIENCE TO THE OWNERS AND THE VISITORS TO THE AREA AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, SAFETY IS WHAT MATTERS MORE THAN ANYTHING.
AND BEFORE YOU, UM, FINISH, MAYBE YOU WANNA STATE WHAT THE, UM, RULES ARE FOR THE PUBLIC FOR THIS SESSION.
SO IN, IN WORK SESSIONS, WE DON'T HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT YOU FEEL FREE TO, TO WRITE IN, UM, COMMENTS TO, UH, QUESTIONS FOR THE SUPERVISOR OR FOR THE ENGINEERS TO FOLLOW UP.
THAT'S BOTH FOR PEOPLE IN ATTENDANCE AND FOR PEOPLE WATCHING VIA CABLE OR ON ZOOM TONIGHT, JUST BECAUSE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS COME IN, I'M SURE A LOT MORE WILL COME IN AS WELL.
SOME, UM, SOME RESIDENTS, UM, HAVE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT THE QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, FOR RESIDENTS AT THE CURRENT TIME.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THERE'S PROLONGED TEMPORARY PUMPING AND A GENERATOR OPERATIONS ADJACENT TO THE OCCUPIED RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS.
UM, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE COULD DO TO, UM, YOU KNOW, EASE SOME OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE CONCERNS? I MEAN, YEAH, WE, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE BUILDINGS THIS ENTIRE TIME AND TRYING TO DO WHAT WE CAN.
REALLY, THE BEST WAY TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE IS TO GET THE PROJECT DONE.
WE NEED TO GET, GET THIS FIXED AND GET OUTTA THERE SO WE'RE NO LONGER IN THEIR BACKYARD.
WE GOT AN EMAIL FROM BARBARA GRODEN TODAY WHO'S A PROPERTY, UM, YOU KNOW, MANAGER AT A HUNDRED EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE.
AND SHE INDICATED THAT, UH, THIS IS ON PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO THE TOWN IS LIMITED TO AN EXTENT AS TO WHAT WE COULD DO ON OUR OWN BECAUSE WE NEED PERMISSION FROM THEM.
COULD YOU MAYBE, UM, HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE CONCERNS DEALING WITH A PRIVATE COMPANY, A PRIVATE RESIDENTIAL BUILDING? UH, WELL, LIKE I SAID, THEY'VE BEEN VERY GRACIOUS AND COOPERATIVE, BUT, UM, UH, SOME, SOME OF THE EXAMPLES I GUESS WOULD BE SAY THEY, THEY, SOME OF THE ALTERNATIVES WE LOOKED AT WERE, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, EXCAVATING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUILDING, UH, TO FIX THE, THE, THE PIPE IN PLACE.
BUT THAT'S A RISK TO THE BUILDING, ESPECIALLY WITHOUT US HAVING THE, THE, THE, THE THAT THE RECORD DRAWINGS, THE, AS BILL DRAWINGS, BECAUSE OF THE DEPTH THAT YOU HAVE TO GO AND NOT BEING STRUCK, NOT BEING CERTAIN THAT THE BUILDING IS STRUCTURALLY SOUND CORRECT.
YOU COULD UNDERMINE THE BUILDING AND THEN WE'D HAVE TO RUN THE PIPE BACK UNDER THE BUILDING AND YOU, YOU COULD POTENTIALLY DAMAGE SOME OF THE FOUNDATION, THE PILES THAT HOLD UP THE BUILDING.
ANOTHER, ANOTHER, UH, OPTION THAT'S BEEN CONSIDERED IS A, UH, A, A PUMPING STATION, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS WITH THAT.
IT, IT DOESN'T REALLY ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR A LARGE EXCAVATION IN THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING.
'CAUSE YOU STILL NEED TO GET DOWN TO THE, TO THE EXISTING PIPE.
WITH A DROP MANHOLE, WHICH MEANS YOU COULD RUN THE PIPE, YOU COULD RUN THE PIPING SHALLOW WITH A, WITH A FORCE MAIN FROM A PUMPING STATION BECAUSE YOU DON'T NEED TO RELY ON GRAVITY, BUT THEN YOU HAVE TO GET IT BACK
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DOWN TO THE, TO THE PIPE THAT'S 35 FEET DEEP IN THE GROUND.SO YOU, IT DOESN'T REALLY SOLVE YOUR PROBLEM.
AND THE, THE BUILDING, UH, MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THEY DO NOT HAVE AN INTEREST IN HAVING, UH, A PUMPING STATION IN THE, IN THE BACK OF THEIR PROPERTY, WHICH FRANKLY, THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT DOESN'T WANT THAT EITHER.
IT'S IT'S BIG MAINTENANCE ISSUE.
SO IF THE FLOOD, IT FLOODS PERIODICALLY, WE WOULDN'T WANT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH, WITH MAINTAINING EQUIPMENT THAT'S NOT ON OUR PROPERTY IN A FLOODPLAIN.
UH, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY, UM, ASKED ME, UM, WHETHER OR NOT, UH, WE TOOK PHOTOS.
LIKE HAS THERE BEEN ANY USING TECHNOLOGY? DO, HAVE WE TAKEN PHOTOS OF THE ACTUAL CRACK? DID WE KNOW WHERE THE EXACT, YOU KNOW, CRACK IS? YEAH, THERE'S, WHEN IT FIRST HAPPENED, THERE WAS, UM, CT CTTV CAMERA, THEY TTV CAMERA.
THEY, THEY ACTUALLY PUT A CAMERA INSIDE THE PIPE AND, UM, YOU COULDN'T TELL EXACTLY WHERE BECAUSE THERE WAS SO MUCH RUBBLE.
THERE WAS BROKEN, BROKEN PIECES OF PIPE, BROKEN PIECES OF ROCK AND DIRT.
BUT WE KNOW IT'S, IT'S, IT'S RIGHT AT THE FACE OF THE BUILDING.
AND ALSO JUST UNDER THE BUILDING, IF YOU WERE TO TRY TO FIX IT IN PLACE, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO REMOVE THE LOBBY OF THE BUILDING, UM, UNLESS YOU WOULD KIND OF WORKING BLIND UNDERNEATH THE WHOLE BUILDING, GETTING THE SHORT AND DOWN.
WE'RE NOT TAKING QUESTION IF SOMEBODY PUTS IT IN.
YOU KNOW, JUST WRITE TO ME A NOTE.
WE'RE NOT TAKING QUESTIONS FROM, UM, FROM THE PUBLIC.
BUT YOU COULD BASICALLY, UM, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEBODY WRITES ME A NOTE, I'LL, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION.
WELL, I'M ONLY HERE TO EXPLAIN THAT THE JOB COULD BE DONE A LOT EASIER THAN, UH, THAT KIND OF MONEY.
WELL, WE, WE HAD, WE HAD AN RFP, SO WE HAVE TO BE BOUND BY PROCUREMENT POLICY AND THOSE WHO RESPONDED.
UM, BUT ANY, ANY SUGGESTIONS COULD BE SENT TO THE SUPERVISOR OR TO ENGINEERING TEAM.
UH, IN, IN TERMS OF, UM, SHORTENING THE DURATION OF THE TEMPORARY CONDITIONS OR ASSOCIATED DISRUPTIONS, IS THERE ANY ACTION STEPS THAT COULD BE TAKEN THAT COULD, YOU KNOW, EXPEDITE, YOU KNOW, THIS, I MEAN, AT THIS POINT WE'RE LOOKING TO GO OUT TO BID IN, IN A FEW MONTHS IN THE SPRING, SO I'M NOT SURE HOW, HOW, HOW MANY MORE, EXCUSE ME.
I I I'M SORRY WE CAN'T HAVE INTERRUPTIONS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
UH, AGAIN, YOU COULD SEND IN YOUR COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS AFTERWARDS, BUT WE HAVE A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME TONIGHT.
WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO GO BACK AND FORTH.
JUST TRYING TO HELP THE TIME OUT, BUT OKAY.
PLEASE PUT IT IN WRITING AND THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
THANK I SPECIALIZE IN THIS KIND OF WORK, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
THANK YOU SO MUCH CJ AND ANY COMMENTS THAT ANYBODY HAS WILL BE SHARED WITH ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE TOWN BOARD AND, AND OUR ENGINEERS.
UM, LET ME SEE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, ISSUES.
I SEE, UH, CJ YOU, YOU BASICALLY ANSWERED A WHOLE LIST OF QUESTIONS FROM, YOU KNOW, MR. UM, YOU, MR. BRENNER, UM, CORRECT ANY OF THE QUESTIONS YOU FORWARDED TO ME, I DID RESPOND AND TELL THEM WE, WE WOULDN'T HAVE DUE TO TIME CONSTRAINTS AT THIS MEETING, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER ALL THE INDIVIDUAL QUESTIONS, BUT WE RESPONDED IN THE EMAIL.
AND ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS WILL BE RESPONDED TO AS WELL.
UH, AND A LOT OF THAT WAS COVERED IN THE, IN THE LITTLE SUMMARY I GAVE.
I'M SORT OF WONDERING, UM, LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN DO YOU THINK WE'LL BE READY TO GO OUT TO BID? SO WE PLAN TO HAVE THE DOCUMENTS READY IN THE SPRING, BUT LIKE, LIKE I MENTIONED IN THE SUMMARY, THERE'S, THERE'S THESE NON-TECHNICAL MILESTONES THAT SOME OF WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER.
SO I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT IT'S DEFINITELY GOING TO HA GO OUT TO BID ON THIS DATE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW LONG THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT REVIEW IS GONNA TAKE.
AND, AND IF, IF I MAY, HAVING WORKED, ACTUALLY BOTH JOY AND I WORKED AND PROCESSED, UM, REQUESTS, UH, TOWN BOARDS AND HAD PUT IN FOR, FOR SEWER WORK, WHICH THEN ONCE APPROVED BY THE BOARD OF LEGISLATORS WENT FIRST OF ALL UP TO THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICE AND THEN TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS VERY BACKED UP.
AND IT TAKES A OFTEN, TAKES A LONG TIME.
SO I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT YOU'RE REACHING OUT AT ALL LEVELS TO SEE HOW YOU CAN EXPEDITE IT.
IF THE COUNT, IF WE KNOW RIGHT NOW PEOPLE HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW, EXPERIENCING THESE DELAYS SINCE MEMORIAL DAY 2024, AND IF WE GET IT TO THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND THEY BASICALLY HAVE A
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BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK THAT THE COUNTY EXECUTIVE AND THE LEGISLATURE, UM, AND THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD WANT TO GIVE THIS PRIORITY BECAUSE IT IS A BIG, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BEING IMP IMPACTED AND INCONVENIENCED AND WHAT COULD WE DO, UH, TO GET THE COUNTY TO GIVE THIS THE HIGHEST PRIORITY? I THINK THEY SAID THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE DOING.THEY'RE REACHING OUT TO EVERY LEVEL REACHED OUT AND IT'S ON THEIR RADAR, BUT THEY, THEY CAN'T TAKE THE PLANS UNTIL THEY'RE A HUNDRED PERCENT.
SO THERE'S A PROCESS THAT THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW.
BUT THE PRO, I DON'T WANNA WAIT LIKE FIVE MONTHS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE WELL, THEY DON'T HAVE THE RECORDS.
ONCE THEY HAVE THE RECORDS, WE, WE GOTTA FOLLOW THIS TO COUNTY'S PROCESS.
SO YOU'RE THINKING THAT THE RECORDS ARE GOING TO BE READY OR THE FILES OR THE PLANS.
WE'VE JUST RECENTLY SUBMITTED THE 90% SUBMITTAL, SO GETTING TO THAT LAST 10%, WE'LL WORK WITH CJ AND GETTING ALL THE CONTRACT DOCUMENTS READY AND THAT, SO IT'LL BE READY FOR SUBMISSION AS SOON AS WE CAN.
SO WHAT, SO LIKE IF YOU WANNA GIVE US LIKE AN ESTIMATE, WHEN WOULD BE READY FOR SUBMISSION? WHEN, WHEN WOULD YOU SAY THAT WOULD BE? I'D SAY ONCE WE, UM, WE FINALIZE THE SPEC TECHNICAL SPECIFICATIONS, GIVE THEM TO CJ FOR HIM TO REVIEW.
AND THEN ONCE THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS FROM THE TOWN, WE CAN ADJUST THE PLANS AND SPECS TO THOSE COMMENTS AND GET IT READY FOR SUBMISSION.
BUT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE THE SPECS PROBABLY TO CJ IN THE NEXT COUPLE WEEKS.
SO KEEPING IN MIND THAT WHEN YOU SUBMIT PLANS, WHEN YOU'RE, YOU'RE IN THE PROCESS OF CREATING PLANS, THERE ARE SOMETIMES INADVERTENT OMISSIONS.
SO HAVING THAT SECOND PAIR OF EYES, BECAUSE WE HAVE ENGINEERS IN OUR DPW THANK YOU, WHO WILL THEN LOOK AT THEM TO MAKE SURE ALL T'S ARE CROSSED, DENIED, DOTTED.
SO THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PROCESS THAT HAS TO HAPPEN.
THE ONLY QUESTION, AND THEN THEY HAVE TO STAMP THEM, RIGHT? YOU HAVE TO HAVE THEM STAMPED, WHICH MEANS THEY'RE PUTTING THEIR CAREERS AND THEIR LICENSES ON THE LINE.
I HAVE TO REVIEW IT AND, AND SIGN OFF ON, I HAVE TO SIGN OFF ON THEM BEFORE THEY GO TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
THE, THE QUESTION THAT I HAVE IS I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, BEING CRITICAL OF THE COUNTY.
I'M NOT BEING CRITICAL OF ANYONE.
I'M JUST SAYING THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT I HEAR THE BIGGEST COMPLAINT IS, OH, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON AND ON AND PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE IT'S SUCH A COMPLICATED PROJECT.
UM, SO WHAT I'M SORT OF WONDERING IS, LET'S SAY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THE PLANS READY IN SIX, FIVE OR SIX WEEKS AND WE'RE READY TO GO TO THE COUNTY.
I'M SORT OF WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING LIKE WE'RE DOING NOW, AND THEN SAY WE SUBMITTED IT TO THE COUNTY AND THEN WE COULD THEN, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND AND ENCOURAGE THEM TO, UH, ENCOURAGE THE COUNTY DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH TO GIVE THIS PRIORITY.
BECAUSE I FEEL THAT IF THE COUNTY KNOWS THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE REALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY WANT TO GET THIS DONE, THEN I THINK THAT WE COULD PROBABLY SAVE A MONTH OR TWO.
AND BY VIRTUE OF IT BEING THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, EVERYTHING IS A PRIORITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DONE CORRECTLY AND IN HELPFUL, HEALTHY WAY.
SO THEY, YOU KNOW, AS, AS CJ SAID, THAT THEY ARE COGNIZANT, THEY'RE PREPARED TO RECEIVE THE PLANS, BUT YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT ELSE CAN HAPPEN.
SO WE CAN'T ASK THEM TO MAKE ANY GUARANTEES FOR THE COUNTY HEALTH DEPARTMENT.
UM, WE'LL, AND I'M SURE WE WOULDN'T WANT SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO BE RUSHED.
RIGHT? WE DON'T WANT TO BE I'M NOT, I'M NOT ASKING YOU RUSH.
I'M JUST ASKING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WHEN WE SUBMIT IT THAT, YOU KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T GO ON A, ON A FILE IN A, A FILE.
WELL, WE'LL CERTAINLY REACH OUT AND FOLLOW UP WITH THEM, WORK WITH THEM.
IN TERMS OF, UM, THE EAST WING OF HUNDRED EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE, UM, UM, WILL PEOPLE BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, ACCESS, UH, YOU KNOW, THE BUILDING FOR ENTRY AND EXIT DURING THE PROJECT PERIOD? YES.
WE, UM, ANOTHER CONSULTANT PUT TOGETHER A, A TRAFFIC, UH, WORK PLAN THAT INCLUDED PEDESTRIAN ACCESS.
SO, UM, THERE'LL BE LIKE A, ALMOST LIKE YOU SEE THOSE SIDEWALK SHELTERS SOMETIMES IN LIKE THE CITY AND STUFF.
THERE'LL BE, THERE'LL BE A CORRIDOR WHERE YOU CAN, THEY PEOPLE CAN GET OUT OF THAT BUILDING AND GET TO THE CROSSWALK ON LEWIS AVENUE SAFELY AND RIGHT.
AND WILL THE ACCESS, THE EMERGENCY EXIT ON THE TERRACE FLOOR ALSO WILL BE ACCESSIBLE? SOMEBODY WANTED TO KNOW, THEY SAID IT WAS NOT ACCESSIBLE DURING THE INITIAL ROUND OF CONSTRUCTION.
THE, THE RIGHT, THE, THE FRONT ENTRANCE, I'M NOT SURE OF THE TERRANCE TERRACE ENTRANCE, BUT THE FRONT ENTRANCE WAS CLOSED FOR A PORTION OF TIME PREVIOUSLY.
BUT NOW WHEN WE DO THE FI, THE, THE, THE PERMANENT FIX THERE WILL BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THAT FRONT ENTRANCE AND THEY WILL HAVE TWO MEANS OF EGRESS, UH, TO MEET, UM, CODE.
AND IN TERMS OF, UH, I KNOW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE DONE IS YOU WANTED TO LIMIT THE IMPACTS TO COMMUTERS.
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WHILE, UM, THE WORK IS, YOU KNOW, BEING DONE, UM, THERE WON'T BE MUCH INCONVENIENCES TO RESIDENTS OF EAST HEART, YOU KNOW, TO PEOPLE GOING TO THE TRAIN STATION.UH, YOU KNOW, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD PEOPLE AVOID, UM, THE HARSDALE TRAIN STATION OR GO, UH, LOOK FOR OTHER ROUTES? IDEALLY WE WOULD BE ENCOURAGING MOTORISTS TO SEEK AN ALTERNATE ROUTE IF THEY CAN.
UM, BECAUSE THE, THE LANE, THE LANES WILL BE NARROWED, THE, THE, THE, UH, SPEED LIMIT WILL BE REDUCED, BUT THERE WILL BE TWO-WAY TRAFFIC FOR A PORTION OF TIME WHILE THE EXCAVATION IS, UH, IS BEING DUG.
UM, THE SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF 101 20 EASTAR AVENUE WILL HAVE TO BE CLOSED AND, UH, PEDESTRIANS WILL HAVE TO UTILIZE THE CROSSWALKS TO CROSS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
SO IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET TO ONE 20, PARTICULARLY, AND, AND DEPENDING ON YOUR DIRECTION 100, YOU WOULD HAVE TO WALK A LITTLE FURTHER THAN YOU NORMALLY WOULD TO GO AROUND.
BUT, BUT EVERYONE WILL HAVE ACCESS TO BOTH BUILDINGS BY FOOT.
AND WE ALSO DON'T WANT TO, UM, HINDER THE, THE BUSINESS ACTIVITIES OF THE, THAT AREA, THE BUSINESS DISTRICT OF HARTSDALE BY TELLING PEOPLE NOT TO GO TO THE TRAIN STATION.
IT'S LIKE A, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY VOLUME'S GONNA AFFECT THE TRAFFIC, BUT WE STILL WANT PEOPLE TO GO TO HARTSDALE MM-HMM
AND, AND THE SIDEWALK WILL BE CLOSED FOR LIKE SEVEN IF IT, THIS TAKES SEVEN MONTHS, NOT THE ENTIRE SEVEN MONTHS, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO OPEN IT UP AT SOME POINT.
IT MAY BE THREE TO FOUR MONTHS, I THINK.
SO HOPEFULLY, AND I APPRECIATE THAT, THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT THERE WOULD BE SIGNAGE TELLING PEOPLE THAT THERE WOULD BE SLOWED TRAFFIC AND YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU PROBABLY WILL PROBABLY HEAR GRUMBLINGS THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS UNTIL PEOPLE GET USED TO IT AND GET USED TO THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO, UH, LEAVE A FEW MINUTES EARLIER TO COUNT FOR THE SLOW TRAFFIC.
THE CONCERN THAT I HAVE, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE PUT IN THIS TEMPORARY SIDEWALK, THAT WAS REALLY GREAT BECAUSE, UH, IT GETS DARK EARLY.
UM, SO IF THIS IS, YOU KNOW, IF THE WORK STARTS IN THE SUMMER, UH, WE HAVE A FEW MONTHS WHERE PEOPLE HAVE A LOT OF TIME, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY'RE COMING HOME, UH, FROM WORK, UH, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE SAFE IF IT CONTINUES THROUGH THE WINTER AND YOU DON'T HAVE A SIDEWALK.
IT COULD REALLY BE DANGEROUS FOR, UM, PEDESTRIANS.
AND I GUESS WE SHOULD REALLY BE COORDINATING, UM, A SAFE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY PLAN WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH THE GREENBERG POLICE, YOU KNOW, AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE SOMEWHAT A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT OR A LOT CONCERNED, OH, WE CAN, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, COORDINATE THAT AND HAVE A PLAN.
BUT WE, WE WERE GONNA HAVE THE, THE CONTRACTOR DURING THE CONSTRUCTION HOURS HAVE A, A FLAGGER TO HELP, UH, WITH THAT, WITH THE, UH, CROSSING.
AND HOW MUCH EXCAVATION DO YOU EXPECT? AND DO WE KNOW WHETHER OR NOT WE'RE GONNA HIT ROCK? YEAH, WE PROBABLY WON'T HIT ROCK.
WE'VE DONE, UM, SOIL BOARDINGS IN THE AREA AND WE SHOULDN'T HAVE HAVE TO HIT ROCK IN THAT AREA, SANDY, ALL THE WAY DOWN.
THE, THE ESTIMATES WE'VE GOTTEN FROM SOME CON CONTRACTORS AS IT COULD TAKE THAT THE BULK OF THE PROJECT IS DIGGING THAT BIG EXCAVATION AND, AND SUPPORTING IT, THAT THAT ITSELF COULD TAKE THREE MONTHS OR MORE TO, TO, TO DIG THAT EXCAVATION DURING, UH, THE WORK, YOU KNOW, DURING THE PASTS, UH, ALMOST TWO YEARS, UM, OR A YEAR AND A HALF.
UM, WE'VE BEEN SPENDING, YOU SAID IT'S ABOUT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH ON THE PUMPING, TEMPORARY PUMPING, MORE THAN THAT.
UH, IT'S BEEN MORE, UH, WOULD, IS THERE, LIKE ANY ESTIMATE HOW MUCH WE ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, HAVE SPENT SO FAR AND HOW MUCH WE'VE SPENT ON THE DESIGN PHASE OF THE PROJECT? I, UH, YES.
I, I, I'D RATHER DOUBLE CHECK BEFORE I SAY SOMETHING THAT'S INACCURATE, BUT WE DEFINITELY HAVE ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS.
IT'S, UM, PROBABLY IN THE, IN THE BALLPARK OF A MILLION AND A HALF TO 2 MILLION.
MAY I MAKE A, A SUGGESTION, WHICH YOU'VE PROBABLY ALREADY COUNTED FOR, BUT JUST SO THAT, UM, ONCE THE CONTRACT IS AWARDED, OR IT MAY BE IN THE RFB, YOU SPELL IT OUT, RFP, YOU SPELL IT OUT THAT A TIMELINE IS CREATED SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT TO EXPECT.
BUT THAT WOULD HAVE TO DEPEND ON THE CONTRACTOR ONCE THE JOB IS AWARDED SO THAT IT CAN, THEN THEY'RE UNNOTICED THEMSELVES TO ADHERE AS BEST AS POSSIBLE AND TO MAKE US AWARE IF THEY RUN INTO ANY ISSUES.
WE'LL, SO THAT WE CAN LET THE PUBLIC KNOW.
SOME PEOPLE WANTED TO KNOW, UH, WHY IT'S TAKING SO MUCH TIME FOR THE DESIGN PHASE TO BE COMPLETED AND, UM, YOU KNOW, IS THIS SORT OF NORMAL IN TERMS OF, UH, A PROJECT THIS COMPLICATED? YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK SO.
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COMPLICATED PROJECT.I, I CAN SPEAK TO THAT, UH, EFFECT.
UH, SO THE COMPLEXITY ON THE TECHNICAL SIDE THAT IS BASICALLY DRIVING THE LENGTH OF THE DESIGN IS THE FACT THAT NOT ONLY DO WE NEED TO GO DEEP, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT 40 FEET DEEP EXCAVATION TO VISUALIZE THAT WE'RE TALKING THAT'S FOUR ZERO, RIGHT? FOUR ZERO, YES.
THAT IS FOUR STORIES BELOW GRADE.
THAT'S GIVES YOU A PERSPECTIVE OF HOW DEEP WE ARE NEXT TO A BUILDING THAT WE ARE BEING TOLD, OR IT'S BEEN REPORTED TO US, THAT IT'S SUPPORTED ON PILES, BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT TYPE OF PILES, HOW DEEP THEY'RE GOING, WHAT, BECAUSE THERE ARE NO PLANS AVAILABLE FOR YOU TO CONSULT, NO PLANS AVAILABLE.
SO WHEN WE ARE UP AGAIN AS A DESIGN THAT HAS VERY LITTLE INFORMATION AND SAFETY IS OUR MAIN PRIORITY, BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE EXCAVATING DOWN THE GROUND, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOTHING HAPPENS TO THE SURROUNDING BUILDINGS, NOTHING HAPPENS TO THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
PEDESTRIANS ARE SAFE AND ALL OF THAT.
WE HAVE TO EXERCISE A LOT OF CARE AND WE HAVE TO MAKE A LOT OF ASSUMPTIONS THAT BASICALLY DICTATE THE LENGTH OF THE DESIGN.
IF WE KNEW MORE INFORMATION IN THAT LIST, YOU ALSO HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SAFE FOR THE PEOPLE WORKING IN THAT AND, AND THE SAFETY OF THE WORKERS.
SO IF WE KNOW MORE, WE CAN EXPEDITE MORE, BUT IF WE DON'T KNOW MORE, THEN WE HAVE TO TAKE ALL NECESSARY PRECAUTIONS IN OUR, UH, IN OUR DESIGN.
IN ADDITION TO THAT, UH, THERE ARE SOME CHALLENGES THAT WE DISCOVERED, UH, AS WE PROGRESS THE PROJECT.
FOR INSTANCE, IN THE BEGINNING, LIKE CJ WAS SAYING, WHEN IT WAS JUST AN EMERGENCY, UH, PROJECT, WE ALL ADOPTED THE SIMPLE APPROACH, WHICH IS, OKAY, THEORETICALLY DIG DOWN, FIX THE PIPE, AND THEN GET OUT AND, AND THEN YOU'RE DONE.
UNFORTUNATELY, THE PIPE HAS BEEN DISCOVERED OR REPORTED, AND WE SAW THAT THROUGH THE TV, UH, SCAN THAT WAS DONE, DONE DOWN THERE.
SO THE SIMPLE WAY OF DOING IT HAS BEEN, UH, VERY CHALLENGING.
WE CANNOT DO IT THE SIMPLE WAY THAT, UH, LED TO THINKING OF ALTERNATIVE SOLUTIONS.
OKAY, WHAT DO WE DO? DO WE PUT A PIPE INSIDE THE PIPE? DO WE GO AROUND THE BUILDING AND FACTOR IN, INTO ALL OF THIS DISCUSSIONS THAT, UH, CJ HAD WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO SEE WHAT THEIR PREFERENCE IS? BECAUSE NOW EVERYTHING THAT WE DO IS GONNA, MAY OR MAY NOT IMPACT THE INTEGRITY OF THE BUILDING.
SO BECAUSE OF ALL OF THESE FACTORS COMING INTO PLAY INSIDE THE DESIGN PROCESS, WE ESTIMATED FROM THE BEGINNING OF OUR DESIGN THAT IT'LL TAKE ABOUT THREE, FOUR MONTHS TO GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
AND WE STARTED ABOUT IN, UH, SEPTEMBER, THE FULL DESIGN THAT IS AFTER THE EMERGENCY PHASE.
AND HERE WE ARE IN, UH, JANUARY, ABOUT FOUR MONTHS WE TALKED ABOUT WITH 90% DRAWINGS.
SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, WE ARE DOING THE FULL DUE DILIGENCE AND HITTING THE SCHEDULE THAT WE ANTICIPATED TO BE REQUIRED TO SOLVE A COMPLEX PROJECT LIKE THIS.
DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS LIKE DAILY? WE HAVE PEOPLE WORKING ON THIS AS I SPEAK RIGHT NOW, SO THAT'S NIGHTLY AS WELL.
SO LET ME JUST SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, SO NO, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN, YOU KNOW, VERY, YOU KNOW, VERY HELPFUL AND YOU KNOW, IF, AGAIN, IF IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE LIKE MAYBE EVERY FIVE OR SIX WEEKS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS AGAIN, BECAUSE I THINK AS AGAIN, NOW WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO ACTUALLY GETTING THINGS DONE THIS WAY WE COULD KEEP PEOPLE INFORMED.
AND WHEN PEOPLE WATCH THIS, THEY MAY HAVE OTHER QUESTIONS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WE COULD SHARE THEM.
YOU KNOW, THE THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT I'VE HAD, YOU KNOW, THAT I'VE GOTTEN FROM PEOPLE IS THAT PEOPLE FEEL THAT THEY WANNA BE KEPT INFORMED AND THEY, THEY DIDN'T, I FEEL THAT THE AVERAGE PERSON ON EAST HEART STILL AVENUE, THEY REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON AS MUCH AS THEY WANT.
UM, AND I FEEL THAT IF WE HAVE THESE MEETINGS AND PEOPLE COULD WRITE IN QUESTIONS AND WE ASK THEM, UM, THEY'LL HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND APPRECIATION.
AND IF THERE ARE SOME DELAYS OR, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE FIND THINGS THAT WE DIDN'T ANTICIPATE AND YOU EXPLAIN IT TO PEOPLE, I THINK MOST PEOPLE WILL BE UNDERSTANDING.
IT MAY BE MORE HELPFUL TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING JUST ABOUT THIS TOPIC RATHER THAN PUTTING IT IN A WORK SESSION.
YOU KNOW, I, I, THAT MAKES MORE SENSE.
IF, IF YOU WOULD PREFER DOING THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S FINE.
OR WE COULD HAVE A, A SPECIAL MEETING AND INVITE THE COMMUNITY, UH, OR WE COULD HAVE A MEET, WE COULD INVITE, WE COULD HAVE A, A FOLLOW UP MEETING, SAY ON EAST HEART, A HUNDRED EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE WITH, YOU KNOW, WITH, WITH
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RESIDENTS.BUT YEAH, I FIND THAT WHEN I, I EXPLAIN IT TO PEOPLE THEN PEOPLE ARE, YOU KNOW, PRETTY REASONABLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION, UM, YOU KNOW, IN, IN THE PAST.
IS, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, MENTION, YOU KNOW, LIKE WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHAT PEOPLE COULD EXPECT IN SOME OF THE OBSTACLES THAT, OR BUMPS THAT WE MAY EXPERIENCE? WELL, I'LL, I WILL JUST CAVEAT ALL OF THAT BY SAYING THAT WE, UH, DID, UH, CONSIDER ALL THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE TO US TO DATE.
BUT UNFORTUNATELY WITH THE NATURE OF PROJECTS LIKE THIS, THERE MAY BE, AND PROBABLY THERE WILL BE INFORMATION THAT IS BEING REVEALED AS WE GO INTO CONSTRUCTION.
SO I CAN CONFIDENTLY SAY THAT OUR TEAM IS READY TO PROCESS THAT INFORMATION AND MAKE ANY DESIGN CHANGES THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE THOSE.
BUT IT ALL DEPENDS AGAIN ON WHAT WE FIND.
IN, IN SUMMARY, ON ON THAT ONE, JUST TO REITERATE WHAT YOU SAID.
UM, SO WHEN YOU CAN'T SEE WHAT'S BEHIND WALLS OR BELOW GROUND IN ADVANCE, THERE MAY BE THINGS THAT ARE DISCOVERABLE THAT THERE IS NO WAY TO ANTICIPATE.
AND NOT HAVING PLANS OF THE EXISTING BUILDING IS A FURTHER HINDRANCE.
SO THERE MAY HAVE TO BE WORK THAT IS DONE THAT WAS NOT ANTICIPATED.
SO PEOPLE SHOULD EXPECT THAT AS THE NORM AND HOPEFULLY WILL BE PLEASANTLY SURPRISED RATHER THAN EXPECT THE PERFECT AND THEN BE SURPRISED.
HAS YOUR COMPANY HANDLED THINGS LIKE THIS, YOU KNOW, BEFORE? OH YES.
WE HANDLE A LOT OF EXCAVATIONS.
WE HAD A HANDLE A LOT OF SEWER DESIGNS.
WE HAVE BEEN AROUND SINCE 1984.
AND HAVE YOU NOT SEEN, UH, PIPES UNDER BUILDINGS? WE HAVE SEEN PIPES UNDER BUILDINGS THAT HAVE VERY SIMILAR SITUATIONS.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE INFORMED THE TOWN EVEN DURING THE PROPOSAL PHASE, IS THIS IS GONNA TAKE TIME.
'CAUSE WE HAVE BEEN THROUGH THIS PROCESS BEFORE AND WE KNOW THAT TO DELIVER A GOOD SAFE DESIGN THAT IS SOUND TECHNICALLY SAFE, OBVIOUSLY TO THE PUBLIC, BUT ALSO PRACTICAL THAT IT CAN BE EASILY CONSTRUCTED.
WE DON'T WANNA GO WITH SOMETHING THAT THE CONTRACTORS ALWAYS SAY, HEY, I DON'T, I CANNOT, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO DO THAT.
SO WE ARE HITTING ALL OF THESE, UH, CRITERIA, UH, FROM THE BEGINNING.
WE KNEW WE WERE GONNA BE UP AGAINST THAT.
THAT'S WHY WE PROVIDED AN ESTIMATED TIMELINE OF THREE TO FOUR MONTHS FOR THE DESIGN PROCESS ITSELF.
SO YOU SAID THAT YOU'VE HAD PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE IN SIMILAR CASE.
SO HOW BIG, HOW BIG SAME SIZE IS THE BUILDING AND HOW LONG DID THAT WHOLE PROCESS TAKE FOR, FOR THE DESIGN? IT HAS BEEN, UH, TYPICAL FOR US TO GO THROUGH A THREE TO FOUR MONTHS, UH, PERIOD FOR THE FOLLOW UP AFTER THE DESIGN.
I WILL HAVE TO SAY THAT IS VERY TOWN AND JURISDICTION DEPENDENT, SO I CANNOT GIVE YOU A TIMELINE TO THAT.
IT, IT, IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE AND IT DEPENDS ON MANY, MANY FACTORS.
BUT DESIGN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CONTROL.
UH, WE'RE VERY BOUND BY THE INFORMATION LIKE I WAS SAYING BEFORE, AND WE CAN ACCELERATE IT AS MUCH AS WE CAN WHILE MAINTAINING INTEGRITY AND SAFETY.
WELL THIS IS VERY INFORMATIVE AND HELPFUL AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THE TIME.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? GREAT.
WE'LL, WE WILL HAVE A FOLLOW UP MEETING AND I, I LIKE YOUR IDEA OF DOING SOMETHING, UM, UH, AGAIN SEPARATE FROM A WORK SESSION, UH, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH RESIDENTS AS WE GET A LITTLE, YOU KNOW, CLOSER BECAUSE I THINK THAT WILL MAKE PEOPLE FEEL BETTER.
AND ON BEHALF OF THE DESIGN TEAM, WE ARE READY TO HELP IN ANY CAPACITY, WHETHER IT'S, UH, COMMUNICATING MORE OR, YOU KNOW, MAKING, ANSWERING OTHER QUESTIONS.
WE JUST LET US KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP.
AND ANYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY AND YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS IF YOU EMAIL TOWN BOARD@GREENBURGNY.COM, UM, THEN WE WILL, UH, ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS COULD UH, LOOK AT YOUR QUESTIONS AND WE'LL, WE'LL GET ANSWERS.
AND, UH, JASON AND CJ, UM, UH, WE WILL, UM, YOU KNOW, WE WILL TRY RESPONDING BE BE BEFORE THE ME BEFORE THE MEETING, BUT WE ALL ARE TAKING THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AND EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME GOAL.
WE WANT TO GET THIS, UH, REPAIRED QUICKLY AND WE ARE SORRY THAT THERE'S AN INCONVENIENCE.
YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT, UM, IF WE LINE, UM, YOU KNOW, UNDERGROUND PIPES, UM, THAT IT COULD BASICALLY ADD LIKE 30 TO 50 YEARS OF, UH, LIFE.
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SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, YOUR FIRM HAS, YOU KNOW, CONCUR WITH WOULD RECOMMEND? YEP.SO WE'VE, WE'VE DONE, UH, NUMEROUS LINING PROJECTS BETWEEN WATER AND SEWER MAINS.
SO AGAIN, THAT'LL EXTEND THE LIFE OF THE, THE SEWER AND OR WATER MAIN, DEPENDING ON THE CONDITIONS.
IF THE PIPE IS COMPLETELY DETERIORATED, THAT'S A DIFFERENT, BUT IF IT HAS SMALL CRACKS LINING, IT WILL DEFINITELY EXTEND THAT LIFE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS, SAY FOR A TOWN BOARD? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THERE'S, YOU KNOW, HUNDREDS OF MILES OF PIPES, YOU KNOW, HOW, HOW WOULD YOU, YOU KNOW, ARE THERE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE RELIGIOUSLY DOING LINING EVERY, EVERY YEAR AND DO YOU HAVE EXAMPLE? COULD YOU GIVE US EXAMPLES OF COMMUNITIES THAT YOU THINK ARE LIKE MODEL COMMUNITIES THAT ARE DOING THIS CORRECTLY? I MEAN, IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE CONDITIONS AND THE AGE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE.
YOU KNOW, OLDER COMMUNITIES HAVE A LOT MORE ISSUES THAN, UH, NEWER ONES OBVIOUSLY, BUT ANY EXAMPLES OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I DON'T HAVE ANY FOR YOU.
I JUST WANNA GO BACK TO, TO THE EXPERIENCE YOU MENTIONED.
SO WHEN YOU SAID YOU HAD SIMILAR, UM, I GUESS A SIMILAR BREAK IF YOU WILL, IT WAS UNDER THE BUILDING JUST AS SIMILAR JUST AS WHAT WE ARE DEALING NOW, UH, FROM A GENERAL PERSPECTIVE, BREAKS OR, UH, OR THE, THE PRESENCE OF PIPELINES UNDER A BUILDING THAT'S NOT TYPICAL, JUST TO BE CLEAR.
USUALLY FIND THEM IN IN THE ROADWAYS, THE, YOU KNOW, SIDEWALKS, ET CETERA, BUT NOT UNDER A BUILDING.
SO WE ARE UP AGAINST A UNIQUE SITUATION FROM A GENERAL PERSPECTIVE AS FAR AS GOING DOWN DEEP TO FIX SOMETHING.
WE DO THAT ALL OF THE TIME IN NEW YORK CITY TO THAT, YOU KNOW, 40 FEET IS NOT UNUSUAL.
WELL, MISERY LIKES COMPANY, SO THAT'S GOOD.
SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND WE WILL, UH, SEE YOU AGAIN IN THE NEAR FUTURE.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU, UH, TO THE RESIDENTS OF EAST HARTSDALE AVENUE VIEW FOR, UH, THEIR PATIENCE.
AND WE WILL DEFINITELY DO OUR BEST TO KEEP EVERYBODY UM, INFORMED.
SHOULD WE TAKE UH, COMMISSIONER LUCCHESE OUT OF WATER SINCE HE'S HERE? YEAH, JOE.
BUT I THOUGHT HE WAS PART OF THE, I JUST OH, OKAY.
YEAH, I KNOW, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS BECAUSE HE HAD SOMETHING ON AGENDA.
ARE THE OTHERS, ARE THE OTHERS READY? I DON'T KNOW.
SO DO YOU WANNA CHECK BECAUSE THE OTHER'S GONNA TAKE A WHILE.
THE RULES ARE GONNA TAKE A WHILE.
SO ARE WE, WE'RE WAITING TO HEAR, SO WHY, WHY DON'T WE START AND IF THEY DID, THEN WE CAN JUST PIVOT AND THEN GO TAKE THEM.
SO, 'CAUSE YOU KNOW THE TIME, DO YOU WANNA SKIP TO AGENDA REVIEW SINCE THAT'S MORE SIMPLE TO START AND END? WELL PART OF THE, PART OF THE DISCUSSION TONIGHT HAS SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE AGENDA.
OH YES, YOU'RE RIGHT, YOU'RE RIGHT.
SO MAYBE WE COULD START ON THE RULES AND PROCEDURES.
FOR REORG? YEAH, THE REORG COME QUEEN FOR ROUND BOOK.
I CAN'T, I CAN'T SIT IN BETWEEN THE TWO.
WAIT, I DON'T KNOW IF I WANNA SIT NEXT TO YOU.
I'M JUST TRYING TO KEEP EVERYONE, I THINK THAT'S THE, NOT GOING BACK UNDER EXECUTIVE SESSION FROM MY OFFICE.
JONATHAN ASKED ME TO PASS THESE OFF.
ALRIGHT, GARY, THANK YOU FOR SHOWING UP TODAY.
WELL THANK YOU FOR US SLIDE IN HERE.
THANKS FOR TAKING US OUTTA ORDER HERE.
GARY DUQUE AND COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND CONSERVATION.
SO HERE TO DISCUSS THE WESTBROOK LIGHTS PROJECT AND THE LAST TIME, THIS WAS BEFORE THE TOWN BOARD WAS ON NOVEMBER 14TH, AND THAT WAS DUE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT OCCURRED.
THE PURPOSE OF THAT HEARING WAS FOR US TO PRESENT THE PROJECT REVIEW
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POTENTIAL IMPACTS, OF COURSE, WITH RESPECT TO THE, UM, THE LIGHTS AND OFF, OFF OFFSITE LOCATIONS AND THE VISUAL IMPACT.AT THAT MEETING WE HEARD EXPERT TESTIMONY THAT THE LIGHTS ARE SET IN INAPPROPRIATE HEIGHT AND WILL NOT CAUSE NEGATIVE OFFSITE IMPACTS.
WE PRESENTED AND DISCUSSED A LIMITED IMMUNITY PROCESS, WHICH WOULD UPON COMPLETION LEAD TO A FULL BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW PROCESS.
SINCE THE LAST HEARING, THERE WERE STRUCTURAL AND GEOTECHNICAL REPORTS THAT OCCURRED, WHICH IN SHORT HAVE IDENTIFIED THAT THE POLLS ACTUALLY SHOULD BE DECONSTRUCTED AND RECONSTRUCTED.
THERE WERE SOME ISSUES WITH THE, THE INSTALLATION.
YOU SAID THERE WAS SOME ISSUES WITH WITH THE INSTALLATION.
WE CAN GO INTO THAT IF YOU NEED TO, BUT IN SHORT, UM, THE PURPOSE WAS TO ENSURE THAT THESE, THE, THESE POLES WERE INSTALLED PROPERLY.
THERE WERE SOME, UM, I BELIEVE SOME STRUCTURAL ISSUES.
SO THOSE, THE POLES WILL HAVE TO BE TAKEN DOWN, BUT THEY WILL BE REINSTALLED IN THE EXACT SAME LOCATION.
UM, AND THE PROJECT WILL APPEAR NO DIFFERENT THAN I GUESS WHAT'S UP THERE NOW.
THE, THE, THE ENTIRE, UH, ISSUE WAS THE FAULT OF THE, UH, IN, UM, INSTALLER.
AND SO THEY'RE GONNA, THEY'RE GONNA TAKE THE POLES OUT AND THEY'RE GONNA PUT 'EM BACK IN PLACE.
I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH THE MUSCO LIGHTING, UM, SEVERAL TIMES THIS WEEK.
UM, THEY'RE GONNA ABSORB THE ENTIRE COST OF THE, UH, THEY ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY.
THEY ACCEPT THE RESPONSIBILITY, UM, THEY'RE GONNA REMOVE THE POLES AND THEN REINSTALL THEM.
UM, OBVIOUSLY WE WILL ALL BE PRESENT AT THAT TIME.
SO I JUST, I JUST WANNA PUT ON THE RECORD SO EVERYBODY'S AWARE THIS TYPE OF INSTALLATION REQUIRES SPECIAL INSPECTIONS, WHICH WAS OUR CONCERN FROM DAY ONE.
THE CONCRETE THAT WAS USED WAS INCORRECT.
UM, THE, SO THE, OUR CONCERNS, UM, EVEN THOUGH WE WERE CRITICIZED AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING, UM, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE WELL-FOUNDED, UM, BECAUSE THIS COULD HAVE CAUSED A COLLAPSE, MAYBE NOT IMMEDIATELY, BUT IT WOULD'VE HAPPENED.
WASN'T THERE SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITH THE REGENERON GARAGE? YES.
WELL, YES, WELL POTENTIALLY, BUT THE BUILDING INSPECTOR POTENTIALLY WAS THERE AND, YOU KNOW, AS PART OF HIS INSPECTION WOULD NOT ALLOW THEM TO POUR INTO THE FOUNDATION THAT HAD WATER.
AND IT WAS UNFORTUNATE IN THIS CASE THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE AN INSPECTOR.
AND THIS, THIS, THIS IS A SIMILAR SITUATION I UNDERSTAND BECAUSE THEY POURED, I THINK TWO DAYS AFTER THE TERRIBLE RAIN IN JULY THAT WE HAD.
AND CLEARLY THEY WERE POURING CONCRETE, WHICH I DON'T THINK WAS THE PROPER STRENGTH TO BEGIN WITH, UH, INTO, UH, WATER, WHICH OF COURSE DECREASES ITS, ITS STRENGTH.
SO THIS IS GOING TO REQUIRE, AS I SAID, SPECIAL INSPECTIONS FOR CONCRETE, WHICH IS GOING TO REQUIRE SLUMP TESTS TO ENSURE THAT THE PSI IS MET BEFORE.
ANY EXPLAIN PSI PLEASE? THE POUNDS PER SQUARE INCH
UM, SO, UM, WE'RE GLAD WE'RE GONNA GET A BETTER PRODUCT.
UM, THE ELMSFORD LITTLE LEAGUE WILL STILL BE ON TRACK TO HAVE THEIR LIGHTING INSTALLED AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS DONE APPROPRIATELY.
HOW WE ALL THE TIME FOR THE SEASON.
SO THE PLANS ARE NOT GOING TO CHANGE.
UM, THEY'VE ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED AND APPROVED.
THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE REINSTALLED AS DESIGNED.
THEY WEREN'T INSTALLED AT THE DEPTHS THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE IN SOME INSTANCES, SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE RE RE DUG AND REINSTALLED.
HOW WAS IT DETERMINED THAT THEY WERE FAULTY? WELL, WE HIRED A COMPANY, IT'S CALLED SAFE STADIUM AND FACILITY AND STILL A VALUATION COMPANY.
THEY BROUGHT A TEAM OF APPROXIMATELY EIGHT TO 10 PEOPLE.
WE WERE THERE WHEN THEY DID IT.
UM, AND THEY IMMEDIATELY FOUND THAT THE CORE, UH, CONCRETE WAS JUST NOT UP TO SNUFF.
AND, UM, THEY WROTE OUT 125 PAGE REVIEWED REPORT THAT WAS SENT TO MUSCOW.
I WOULD SAY THAT MUSCOW WAS EMBARRASSED BY THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE A VERY LARGE COMPANY AND THEY DID NOT WANT THIS IN ANY WAY TO BE SUBMERGED THEIR REPUTATION NOR THE REPUTATION OF THE CONTRACTOR THAT THEY DEALT WITH ALSO.
AND, UH, THEY WANNA MAKE THIS RIGHT AND SO ARE THEY GONNA PAY FOR THE COST OF THE, UH, STUDY? THEY'RE, THAT WAS ALREADY PAID FOR BY US.
BUT RIGHT NOW THEY'RE GONNA PAY FOR EVERYTHING.
THEY'RE GONNA, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S NO COST AT THIS POINT FOR US.
THEY'RE GOING TO BRING IN AN ELECTRICIAN TO, UM, UNHOOK THE LIGHTS.
THEY'RE GONNA THEN REMOVE THE LIGHTS.
THEY'RE GONNA THEN REINSTALL THE LIGHTS.
UH, AND SO LIZ, DO WE NEED TO BE PRESENT? YES, WE DON'T, BUT THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT.
THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT WILL BE THERE, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WILL BE THERE.
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WE MAY VIDEOTAPE IT AND SHOW IT TO YOU, IF THAT MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER.SO THERE'S, THERE'S GONNA BE A COUPLE OF INSPECTIONS,
UM, SO THERE'S GONNA BE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO TAKE PAGE.
THE REBAR INSPECTION, SPECIAL INSPECTION WITH THE CONCRETE, THE ELECTRICAL INSPECTION, AND THEN THE BUILDING INSPECTION.
SO PROCESS WISE, WE'RE ALL SET FOR A CONTINUED PUBLIC HEARING TOMORROW.
IF THE BOARD FEELS COMFORTABLE CLOSING THAT PUBLIC HEARING.
AND THIS WOULD BE ON SEEKER AND THE LIMITED IMMUNITY PROCESS AT THE FIRST FEBRUARY MEETING, WE'LL WRITE UP A SECRET DETERMINATION FOR YOU.
AND WE ALSO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO COVER THE NINE FACTORS THAT NEW YORK STATE SAYS YOU MUST WHEN YOU EXERCISE LIMITED IMMUNITY.
SO IT'S NOT JUST A, UM, YOU KNOW, RUBBER STAMP.
WE, AND I COVERED MANY OF THESE FACTORS DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, BUT THINGS LIKE, UH, LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE, UH, LOCATIONS, UM, ELABORATING ON THE BENEFIT OF THE PROJECT TO THE PUBLIC AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
SO WE WILL ENSURE THAT THE, THE FINDINGS FROM A SEEKER PERSPECTIVE AS WELL AS THESE, THIS BALANCING NINE BALANCING FACTORS ARE COVERED IN A RESOLUTION THAT YOU'RE ABLE TO REVIEW BEFORE THAT APPROVAL AND USE OF THE LIMITED IMMUNITY PROCESS.
FOLLOWING THAT AS, UH, LIZ DESCRIBED FULL BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS AND WHEN THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION OCCURS, UM, MUCH INVOLVEMENT FROM THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT, I BELIEVE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT AS WELL.
SO MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS AS WELL AS THE TECHNICAL EXPERTS THAT, UH, LIZ IDENTIFIED.
SO IS THERE REALLY AN URGENCY TO PUT THIS ON TOMORROW NIGHT NOW THAT WE KNOW THAT THE POLLS HAVE TO COME DOWN? WELL, YES AND NO.
UH, THERE, IT'S GONNA TAKE, IT'S SO WE STILL MY ANSWER IS STRAIGHT, YES.
I WANNA SAY YES, BECAUSE THE FACT IS THAT WE STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S ALL DONE.
AND THEN WE HAVE WEATHER THAT WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH ALSO.
SO THEY HAVE TO PICK A WEEK WHERE THEY'RE GONNA COME IN TO TAKE ALL THIS OUT.
AND WE STILL WANNA MAKE THE, UH, MID-MARCH TIMEFRAME.
AND MID MARCH IS THE INSTALLATION, THE REINSTALLATION? NO, I WOULD RATHER HAVE IT DONE IN FEBRUARY, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, IF YOU HAVE A NICE WEEK.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT YOU CAN'T TELL FOR SURE WHAT THE WEATHER'S GONNA BE LIKE.
SO WHAT'S MID MARCH? THAT'S ABOUT THE TIME THEY START PLAYING BASEBALL.
I, AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO, I DON'T WANT TO INTERFERE WITH EVEN THEIR PRACTICES EARLY ON.
SO WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE, UM, ABILITY OF THE, UM, CONCRETE PLANTS TO BE OPEN AND POURING IN MARCH? I, THE WEATHER, THE TEMPERATURE OUTSIDE IS NOT GONNA BE A FACTOR, UM, I'VE BEEN TOLD.
BUT, UM, IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE AS TO THE, THE HOW, HOW HARD THE GROUND IS, UM, WHETHER THERE'S SNOW ON THE GROUND, THINGS LIKE THAT, AS FAR AS GETTING IN, GETTING IN AND OUT.
UM, AND ALSO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH THE CONSTRUCTION COMPANY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THEIR TIMEFRAME IS IN ORDER TO GET IN TO DO THAT WORK.
BECAUSE THERE'S, THEY, THEY'RE DOING OTHER JOBS AT THE SAME TIME.
WELL, WE, FRANKLY, WERE YELLED AT, WE WERE RIDICULED FOR SAYING THAT THESE THINGS NEEDED TO BE INSPECTED.
UH, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS TIME WHEN THE CONCRETE GOES IN, IT'S ACTUALLY DONE PROPERLY.
AND IF THAT'S TEMPERATURE DEPENDENT SURE.
I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE RUSHED.
AND THEN WE FIND OUT THAT WE DON'T HAVE STRUCTURAL INTEGRITY TO THE CONCRETE AGAIN.
BUT I, I'M WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT AND ALSO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT.
THEY'RE GONNA BE ON SITE AND THEY'RE GONNA BE PART OF THIS PROJECT.
SO THE ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, IS JUST THERE TO ENSURE THAT THE CONTRACT IS, IS MET.
UM, THEY'RE NOT DOING INSPECTIONS.
THE SPECIAL INSPECTIONS THAT ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT, AND I'LL SAY IT AGAIN, IT HAS TO BE DONE BY A THIRD PARTY EXPERT.
SO THAT HAS TO BE HIRED OUTSIDE.
UM, WE WILL GIVE THEM THE FORMS THAT THEY NEED.
UM, WE HAVE TO REVIEW THEIR QUALIFICATIONS.
UM, SO AGAIN, THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE WANT THIS TO BE DONE, UH, CORRECTLY THE SECOND TIME AROUND.
UM, WHICH IS, I'M, I'M GLAD, UM, IN A WAY THAT THIS HAPPENED SO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, WE KNOW, WHICH IS WHY WE REQUIRED TO HAVE THE ENGINEER GIVE US A CERTIFICATION, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY CAME BACK, UM, FLAWED.
SO, UM, I WAS WAITING FOR A PERIOD.
MAIN THING IS THAT THE CHILDREN WILL BE SAFE WHEN THESE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY UP.
WHEN THE, UH, THE SEASON, WHEN THE SEASON IS GOING WHERE, UM, IT'S A GOOD THING THAT, UM, THESE INSPECTIONS WERE DONE BECAUSE THAT CONCRETE WAS REALLY NOT CAPABLE OF, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THEY WERE ABLE TO CHIP IT OFF WITH A, UH, SCREWDRIVER, SCREWDRIVER BREAK APART, THE CONCRETE RENT.
SO, HAVE YOU ALREADY IDENTIFIED A THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR? HOW DOES THAT, SO THE THIRD
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PARTY INSPECTORS ARE PROVIDED TO US BY THE APPLICANTS.SO THE MOSCOW OR THE CONTRACTOR OF RECORD WILL HAVE TO GIVE US, UM, A QUALIFIED THIRD PARTY INSPECTOR WILL REVIEW THE QUALIFICATIONS AND THEN ACCEPT THEM AS A SPECIAL INSPECTOR.
UNLESS YOU WANNA STAY WITH US, WE THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
YOU WANNA START THE REORG BECAUSE THAT'S THE EASY ONE.
RIGHT? WELL, THOSE, SO WHICH ONE ARE WE DOING? ARE WE DOING RULES OR REORG? OKAY.
THE ONLY THING THAT I WANTED TO JUMP IN, AND ELLEN, YOU AND I HAD THIS CONVERSATION A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, IS I NOTICED ON THERE, WE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE LIBRARY.
IT APPEARS THAT THEY DIDN'T PUT A NAME THERE.
I SAW ABOUT, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I, OKAY, SO YOU, SO AS OF NOW, ALAN, ON THE LAST PAGE.
AS OF NOW, ALAN WILL BE THE DESIGNATED, UM, LIAISON TO THE LIBRARY.
UM, SECOND TO LAST PAGE WE'RE GOOD.
SO RIGHT HERE, RIGHT? IT JUST HAS COUNCILMAN DOESN'T HAVE YEAH.
THEY'RE THE ONES PAGE, THE MEETINGS AT THE SAME TIME AS OUR ACCOUNTANT WORK SESSION? YEAH.
WELL, WHAT THEY'VE DONE DIFFERENT, WHAT THEY'VE DONE IS THAT THEY DO HAVE THEIR MEETINGS AT THE SAME TIME AS OUR WORK SESSIONS.
BUT WE HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, UM, ON MONDAYS, UH, AT ABOUT THE SAME AFTER THEY'VE HAD THEIR MEETING.
AND THEY FILL US IN AND, UM, BRING US UP TO DATE AND IF THEY NEED ANYTHING, THEY KNOW WHO TO CONTACT TO BE.
THERE IS A THING IN HERE REGARDING THE CONTROLLER.
THE CONTROLLER THAT'S ON PAGE SIX SECOND.
WHEREAS AFFIRMING THE INVESTMENT POLICY, THE CONTROLLER HAS MADE AN ANNUAL REVIEW, SAID POLICY LAST AMENDED 2014 AND REAFFIRMED 2022.
OUR NEW CONTROLLER WASN'T HERE IN 2022.
SO SHE CAN'T REAFFIRM THAT POLICY.
SOMEBODY NEEDS TO SEND IT TO HER AND HAVE HER BE A FAST READ FOR TOMORROW.
UM, AND ALSO IT'S NO LONGER CALLED THE GREENBURG NATURE CENTER.
IT'S THE NATURE CENTER AT GREENBURG.
WHEN DID THEY CHANGE THE NAME? UM, SIX MONTHS.
A YEAR AGO THERE WAS A PROBLEM.
THEY WERE USING THE ACRONYM G WELL, WHATEVER.
SO IT'S IT'S NATURE CENTER AT GREENBURG.
UH, IS GNC THE SAME AS THE DRINK? YEAH, IT'S A VITAMINS.
AND THEN I HAD ANOTHER QUESTION AT GREENBERG.
AT GREENBERG FOUND IT'S THE NAME OF THE ENTITY.
SO WE HAVE TO GO AND CHANGE ALL OUR RECORDS AND UPDATE OUR RECORDS TO REFLECT THIS.
HUH? FROM ANYTHING FROM NOW ON? YEAH.
I'LL GET THE EXACT DATE FROM A-N-C-G-B-G.
I MEAN, WE'RE SO USED TO SAYING G.
CAN WE STILL SAY GNC? NO, WE CAN'T.
I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS ALSO.
LIKE, UM, CABLE TELEVISION HAS SHANNON
SO, UM, I'M JUST LOOKING AT ALL THE ONES WHERE THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE.
UM, ARE YOU, ARE YOU WORKING WITH ME ON, ON
UM, WHICH ONE WAS THAT? UH, THE HUMAN RIGHTS CLINIC.
THE, WE'RE NOT INVITED, WE'RE NOT INVITED TO THE MEETING.
OKAY, SO WE JUST TAKE THAT OFF COMPLETELY? NO, NO, BECAUSE IF IT GETS, WE'VE GOT A WHOLE NEW SLATE OF IT MIGHT CHANGE.
WELL, MAYBE THE VILLAGE MAY, SINCE JOY IS THE ONLY, UH, WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE
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DIS DO YOU KNOW WHAT THIS MEETING IS? ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMITTEE? WITH THE COMMITTEE? IS, YOU KNOW WHAT THIS COMMITTEE IS? I KNOW WHAT, OKAY.I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S CLEAR.
IT SAYS VILLAGE AFFAIRS, WHICH IS A DIFFERENT NAME.
OH, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NAME.
I THOUGHT YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE OH, OKAY.
UM, AND THE WAY YOU DO IT HAS BEEN, WE, WE'VE NOT BEEN PARTICIPATING SO FAR.
BUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF, UH, SINCE JOY LIVES IN THE VILLAGE, MAYBE IF, UH, WE DESIGNATE YOU AS A, A VILLAGE, UH, LIAISON, MAYBE THEY WOULD BE, UH, RECEPTIVE TO WELL, I REPEATEDLY, YEAH, I THINK, I THINK THERE'S A DIFFERENT SLATE OF MEMBERS.
WE CAN REACTIVATE THAT DISCUSSION.
I ALSO THINK THAT THERE SHOULD BE ROTATION ON THAT.
SHOULD THERE BE A ROTATION ON ALL THE LIAISON POSITIONS? NO.
THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M SAYING BECAUSE ONCE, EXCUSE ME,
SO AT LEAST WE, SO AT LEAST WE CAN, YOU KNOW.
ONE, WE NEED TO GET TO KNOW OUR PARTNERS AND WE NEED TO BE BUILDING OUR RELATIONSHIPS AS WELL.
SO THAT'S WHY I SAID IT SHOULD BE A ROTATION.
CAN I DO THE PRIMARY? AND THEN WE HAVE ROTATING.
WELL, FRANCIS HAS BEEN, HAS BEEN PRETTY CONSISTENT OVER A LONG TIME.
I'VE, I'VE BEEN ON THE VILLAGE OF VISUALS COMMITTEE SINCE KEVIN MORGAN AND I WERE INVITED.
WAY BACK WHEN KEVIN MORGAN PASSED.
THEN I WAS ON IT BY MYSELF, BUT THEN PAUL DECIDED HE WANTED TO BE ON IT BECAUSE THE MAYORS ARE ON THERE.
THE SUPERVISORS SHOULD BE ON IT.
AND THEN AFTER A PERIOD OF TIME OF PAUL BEING ON IT, THEY DIDN'T WANT TOWN BOARD MEMBERS.
DON'T JUST STEP, WELL, LET ME, WE'RE NOT DOING THIS, PAUL.
WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? IF HE'S, IF HE'S GONNA BE CRITICAL OF ME, I'M GONNA BE CRITICAL OF HIM TELLING YOU WHAT I WAS TOLD.
WELL, YOU KNOW WHAT? THEY KICKED YOU OUT AND YOU KNOW, IT DIDN'T, THEY KICKED YOU OFF.
WE JUST, WHILE WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE DOING IT WAS FINE FOR YEARS UNTIL YOU GOT ALL WHILE.
WE'RE, WHILE WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT PAGE SEVEN, ARE THERE ANY COMMITTEES THAT ARE DEFUNCT THAT WE SHOULD, YOU KNOW, CROSS OFF? UM, I MEAN, THE COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM IS NOT ANYTHING EVER BEEN.
I'M ASSIGNED TO IT, BUT I DON'T EVEN, IT'S RIGHT UPSTAIRS IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
DO YOU KNOW WHAT DETECTIVE TERRANCE DIDN'T TAKE YOU OVER TO, OR, OR WHAT? IT'S IN THE, IT'S IN THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
IT'S A COMMUNITY ACTION PROGRAM.
WELL, SO WESTCO IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE DECIDE WE DIDN'T WANT TO PARTICIPATE WITH ANYMORE.
WHO SAID THAT? THAT CAME UP LAST WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS? WHEN I FIRST STARTED, WE DISCUSSED WHETHER WE PARTICIPATE OR NOT.
I THINK IT'S, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT THEY EXPECTED, WHOEVER THE WAS TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY.
BUT I DIDN'T THINK WE, I THINK THAT WAS, THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN RESCUE.
I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE AGREED WAS THAT WE WOULDN'T BE, WE WOULDN'T BE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THAT JUST BECAUSE WE'RE LIAISONS.
BUT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO BE, YOU KNOW, TO BE PART OF IT.
YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WOULD BRING THAT VOICE.
I THOUGHT THAT WAS THE ONLY THING THAT WAS REQUIRED WAS SOLICITED IN TERMS OF PARTICIPATION.
THAT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING FROM EVERYONE.
WELL, I THINK IT WASN'T THERE GONNA BE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT MAYBE WITH THEM.
WE CAN HAVE, WHY DON'T WE REVISIT? I WANTED US TO, I THINK THEY WANTED THE LIAISON TO BUY A TABLE, SOME FUNDRAISER OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM.
WE, WE DO HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR US.
SO IT MIGHT HAVE BE GOOD, MAYBE NOT TO REGULARLY ATTEND MEETINGS WITH THEM, BUT FOR A LIAISON EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE TO CHECK IN TO SEE HOW SERVICES ARE GOING.
SO WHEN YOU SAY, SO, ARE YOU SAYING WESTCO OR ARE YOU SAYING CAP? WESTCO.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, CAP IS THE GREENBERG CAP IS PART OF WESTCOTT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S SPELLED OUT IN THE CONTRACT THAT I'M REFERRING TO.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT.
SO IF CAP IS PART OF WESTCOTT YES.
THEN ARE THOSE TWO SEPARATE ENTITIES THAT ARE, I MEAN, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE RELATIONSHIP LINE OF SHOULD I TALK TO COMMISSIONER? I WOULD, I WOULD.
TERRANCE I JUST KNOW WEST COMP 'CAUSE I USED TO WORK WITH WESTCO YEARS AGO, SO I KNOW WHAT THE, I KNOW THE, I KNOW THE ORGANIZATION, SO I DON'T, I CAN'T SPEAK FROM IT FROM HOW IT'S DESIGNED HERE.
I DIDN'T, I DON'T SEE WHY IT SHOULD BE SEPARATED BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S ONE AND THE SAME.
TALK TO, TALK TO, I'LL TALK TO, UM, OH GOD, I CAN'T REMEMBER HER NAME.
SHE RUNS, SHE RUNS, SHE RUNS, SHE'S
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A DIRECTOR.SHE RUNS THE, UM, THE GREENBERG ONE.
IT'LL COME TO ME PROBABLY BY THE TIME WHEN WE GET BACK.
JUST WHEN YOU GIVE YOUR NUMBER AND THEN, YEAH, JUST CALL OVER TO, WHAT IS IT? I CAN'T THINK OF IT.
I, I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO BE A LIAISON, UM, ALONG WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN SHEHAN ON THE PLANNING BOARD AND, UH, THE ZONING BOARD, UH, THE SUPERVISOR OF THE TOWN.
I ALWAYS GET, UH, COMMENTS ABOUT LAND USE MATTERS.
AND I WANT TO BE, UH, HEAVILY INVOLVED IN LAND USE, UH, DECISIONS, UM, IN THE COMING YEAR.
SO I'D LIKE TO, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, SINCE WE HAVE TWO MEMBERS ON, UH, TWO LIAISONS ON DIFFERENT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, BOARDS, I, I WOULD LIKE THE, UH, TO BE YOU JUST DON'T WANNA DO IT YOURSELF.
NO, I, I WANT I, I'M HAPPY TO DO IT MYSELF.
WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE PLANNING AND ZONING CODE? WHAT I'M, I'VE BEEN SUPERVISOR, I KNOW LAND USE, JUST LIKE YOU DO.
AND I, I WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED BECAUSE PEOPLE, SO I, I, UM, AND I ALSO WANT ATTEND THE LAND USE COMMITTEE MEETINGS.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY YOU WERE DOING THAT.
I KNEW I, I WAS, WAS OPEN THE DOOR FOR HIM.
YOU KNOW, I LOOKED OPEN THE DOOR.
ARE WE GONNA, ARE WE GONNA STICK TO THIS OR ARE WE GONNA START VEERING OFF TO OTHER THINGS? WELL, I WANNA BE, I'M ASKING, UH, TO ADD MY NAME TO, UH, THE ZONING BOARD AND, UM, AND THE PLANNING BOARD AND LAND USE.
AND I'LL WORK COOPERATIVELY WITH, UH, WITH, UM, ALL THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS ON, UH, LAND USE MATTERS.
WHAT'S THAT? THAT'S WHAT HE WANTS.
LET HIM, HE WHY DON'T YOU LET HIM TAKE TAPE? ONE OF THE THINGS.
SO THEN HE CAN BE, HE CAN BE BECAUSE IT'S AND MIRRORS, RIGHT? NO, BUT HE WANTS TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
NO, LISTEN, HE WANTS TO BE RESPONSIBLE.
I I, SHE, HE CAN BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK TO US AND I WILL BACK BECAUSE HE'S, HE DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMITTEES OTHER THAN THE HARD STILL PARKING.
THE PLANNING LAND USE IS IMPORTANT.
YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN WORKING HEAVILY ON THE FOUR CORNERS.
UH, THE MIXED USE DEVELOPMENT.
I'VE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH, UM, UM, A POTENTIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, DEVELOPER AND, YOU KNOW.
AND I'M INTERESTED IN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AS WELL.
AS AN ASIDE, SHOULD TOWN COURT GO UNDER DEPARTMENTS? NOT, INSTEAD OF UNDER, WHAT'S IT, SHOULDN'T TOWN COURT GO UNDER? UM, DEPARTMENTS? PROBABLY.
THAT'S PROBABLY BEEN LIKE THAT FOREVER.
SO GREENBURG TOWN COURT SHOULD GO UNDER ASSIGNMENTS TO TOWN DEPARTMENTS.
ALL WHO'S MAKING CHANGES? I DON'T SEE, I DON'T SEE.
OH, YOU'RE GONNA GIVE, I DON'T SEE.
AND SHE'S GOT, SHE'S GONNA WATCH THIS.
WHERE IS WHERE? SO WHAT PAGE ARE YOU ON? GREEN ON PAGE SEVEN, GREENBERG TOWN COURT.
AND LIKEWISE, NATURE CENTER GOES DOWN HERE IF WE'RE DOING ALPHABET, SINCE WE'RE DOING IT ALPHABETICALLY.
WE DO THAT ALSO FOR THE NATURE CENTER.
WHAT NATURE CENTER OF, UM, NATURE CENTER IS NOT CENTER UNDER, UNDER N YOU MEAN? THAT'S WHAT I SAID.
IS THE GREENBURG HEALTH CENTER FINISHED? LET'S SEE HOW THEY DID.
IT'S NOT CALLED THE GREENBURG HEALTH CENTER'S CALLED THE WESTCHESTER.
WHAT IS IT? WHAT IS IT YOU? WHAT'S THAT? THE GREEN WESTCHESTER HEALTH WESTCHESTER HEALTH CENTER IN GREENBURG.
NOT ONE THAT I KNOW THAT EXISTS.
THAT'S, IT'S NOT A, SO IT'S ED, IT'S CONSIDERED DEPARTMENT LIFE.
JUST LIKE WE HAVE A HEALTH ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
I WAS GONNA SAY, ACCORDING TO OUR WEBSITE, BUT WELL, THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLD.
WELL SEE THEN, FROM WHATEVER WE DO WITH THIS AND EDITING THIS, WE HAVE TO COMPARE TO THE WEBSITE.
WELL, THE WEBSITE HAS TO COMPARE TO THIS
WE HAVE TO USE THIS, THE NEW DOCUMENT TO EDIT THE UPDATE.
SO WE JUST NEED TO CHANGE NAMES.
IT'S WESTCHESTER HEALTH CENTER.
AND THEN WE MAKE THAT TO
AND, UH, I DON'T SEE THE VETERAN WITH THE, UH, VETERANS BOARD.
AND I'D LIKE TO ALSO, UH, ALONG WITH, UH, COUNCILMAN SHEEN BE, UH, ASSIGNED TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT SINCE I WANNA BE INVOLVED IN LAND USE AFTER 32, 34 YEARS.
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LEARN, AND, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.AND I THINK THAT LAND USE ISSUES ARE GONNA BE IMPORTANT IN THE NEXT, UH, UH, TWO YEARS.
ALSO, ALSO, LOIS BRONZE IS OUT OF PLACE.
THAT'S, IT'S COMING AFTER THEODORE YOUNG
SO WHAT'S WRONG? DO YOU EXPECT THIS TO BE AN ALPHABETICAL ORDER? JOY SEEMS TO BE.
THERE'S AN ATTEMPT TO BE ALPHABETICAL HERE.
WHATEVER WAS NAMED BEFORE IS PROBABLY THAT SPOT.
SO CJ GELLAR NEEDS TO BE ADDED AS DEPUTY ENGINEER.
AND ELLEN, DID YOU SEE THIS? THIS ONE BOARD OF TRUSTEES, GREENBERG PUBLIC LIBRARY.
WHY IS THE, IS IT, IS IT AS SEPARATE? WELL, I MEET WITH THE BOARD OF, WITH THE BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
YOU HAVE SEPARATE MEETINGS? NO.
SO, SO, BUT IT'S BOTH THE LIBRARY, RIGHT? THE LIBRARIAN.
I WOULD, I WOULD SAY IT WOULD GO, IT WOULD GO UNDER DEPARTMENTS.
I WOULD THINK LIBRARY WOULD GO UNDER.
WELL, ONE IS THE TRUSTEES, WHICH IS A SEPARATE, AND, AND THE OTHER IS THE LIBRARY.
SO I SEE HOW IT CAME ABOUT, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE TWICE.
IT COULD THE, IT COULD COME TO A POINT WHERE THERE YOU NEED TO ADVISE THEM SEPARATELY.
SO I WOULD PREFER TO, WHICH I DO, BUT KEEP IT LIKE THIS.
I HAD, UM, SO IT'S NOT QUOTE ADVISORY BOARD.
IT'S JUST CALLED, YOU WANNA PUT THE DEPUTY TOWN ENGINEER THEIR BOARD OF TRUSTEES.
WHY WOULD WE DO THAT? THEY'RE SET UP A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
WE HAVE DEPUTY TOWN ATTORNEYS, WESTCHESTER.
IT'S THE DEPUTY OF THE DEPARTMENT.
AND I'M NOT, WELL BECAUSE BELIEVE YOU HAVE TOWN AT, HE'S ALL DEPUTIES, C EVERYBODY.
I GUESS IT'S, I I WOULD JUST PUT HIM ONLY BECAUSE IF, IF JASON, WHAT CAN WE GO THROUGH AND JUST, JUST ENUMERATE THE CHANGES? 'CAUSE WE'VE BEEN BACK AND FORTH AND SOME ARE SAYING ONE THING.
SO PAGE ONE, WE ARE ADDING THE DEPUTY.
NO, WE'RE HAVING A CONVERSATION.
WE'RE HAVING A DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW OF ADDING THE DEPUTY TOWN OF DEPUTY TOWN ENGINEER.
I THOUGHT PROCESS WAS, IF HE HAD TO MISS A MEETING AND HE HAD SOMEONE FILLING IN TO RUN THE, IT WOULD BE HIM.
THEN DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE ALSO NOTE THE TOWN CLERK? NO, SHE'S AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
SO YOU DON'T APPOINT THERE 'CAUSE SHE'S ELECTED.
RIGHT? I DON'T SEE WATER ON HERE.
WATER DEPARTMENT BE ON THE PUBLIC WORKS.
BUT WHY ARE WE DOING THE ENGINEER? SO THAT WOULD BE THE SAME FOR INE THAT I'M NOT SAYING IT WAS RIGHT IN THE PAST.
YEAH, NO, I THINK IT'S BETTER PRACTICE TO INCLUDE IT.
SO WATER, A SEPARATE, A SEPARATE UNDER PUBLIC WORKS UNDER PUBLIC WORKS AND WATER.
OH, WELL, THERE'S NOT WHAT THIS? UM, THERE'S ANDY AND STEVE.
SO WHAT'S THEIR TITLES? UM, I DON'T RECALL STEVE'S TITLE.
PAUL, WHAT'S STEVE'S TITLE? UM, IT'S NOT HERE.
HE'S, THAT'S WE'RE ASKING NOT THE DOCUMENT.
IF HE DOESN'T KNOW CHIEF WATER TREATMENT PLANT OPERATOR.
THAT'S, THAT'S, I FEEL LIKE WE COULD MAYBE JUST PUT ANDY ON THAT ONE.
JUST ANDY, STEVE DOESN'T HAVE, THAT'S I WAS DEPUTY AND HIS NAME.
THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO KNOW WHAT HIS TITLE WAS.
WE DON'T HAVES OUR CLERK'S NAME HERE BECAUSE SHE'S, BECAUSE SHE'S ELECTED.
ANDY IS THE SUPERINTENDENT OF WATER AND SEWER.
I FEEL LIKE HOLLY WILL BE GETTING NOTES FROM SEVERAL OF US.
WE'RE ADDING DEPUTY TOWN ENGINEER.
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PAGE TWO.AND WE DON'T HAVE TO, IT'D BE REALLY GREAT IF YOU COULD TELL ME THE NAMES UNDER THE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES.
JUST LIKE HE'S JUST BEING A SMART MOUTH IS COMING.
JUST, JUST, YOU KNOW, I, I'M READY TO WRITE.
UM, SO, BECAUSE, BECAUSE, SO YOU SAID LISA'S ELECTED OFFICIAL.
SO HER TOWN CLERK TITLE WOULDN'T GO ON, BUT YOU HAVE THE APPOINTMENT OF REGISTER OF VITAL STATISTICS.
THAT YOU HAVE TO, YOU HAVE TO KEEP.
SO THAT'S A, SO SHE'S APPOINTED TO THAT? YES.
OH, WHAT WAS THAT? SORRY? LISA.
LISA, THE TOWN CLERK IS, IS UNDER THE APPOINTMENT OF, UH, REGISTRAR OF VITAL STATISTICS.
SO I WAS JUST ASKING BECAUSE SHE'S AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
BUT THE REGISTRAR, ANYBODY IS APPOINTED.
SO, AND THEN WE DON'T GET A SAY OVER WHO THE DEPUTY IS.
WHO IS THIS? WHO IS THIS PERSON? WHO IS THIS PERSON? WE WE'RE ALSO GONNA HAVE A SUB REGISTRAR THIS YEAR.
WHICH IS LIKE WHERE, UM, IF LISA OR I WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE, SHE WILL BE ABLE TO, WE SHOULD PUT, ADD THAT.
IT WOULD BE NICE THAT WE KNOW THAT.
WHAT PAGE IS THAT? WHAT P SO IT'S CALLED THIS, IT'S SUB, SUB REGISTERED.
BUT IS THAT A APPOINTMENT LATER ALREADY? SHE, UH, YES.
SO SHE HAS TO BE SWORN IN OR, OR WHATEVER? UH, NO, IT'S JUST, UM, SHE SENDS IT UP TO THE STATE.
BUT THE LAST TO KNOW, I GUESS MM-HMM
HAVE STILL BE FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE SUPERVISOR AND CONTROLLER HEREBY ARE AUTHORIZED TO THEIR DISCRETION TO CO-SIGN ANY AND ALL CHECKS BY CHECK SIGNER.
SO THEY HAVE TO BOTH CO-SIGN OR ONE OR THE OTHER? NO, WHAT IT'S SAYING, I BELIEVE WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT EACH ONE OF THEM INDIVIDUALLY HAS A CHOICE OF EITHER PHYSICALLY SIGNING IT OR USING A MACHINE.
WHICH ONE? UM, UNDER SALARY AND PAYROLL PROCEDURE.
THE LAST ITEM, THE THIRD ONE, SORRY.
SUPERVISOR AND CONTROLLER HEREBY ARE AUTHORIZED AT THEIR DISCRETION TO CO-SIGN ANY AND ALL CHECKS BY CHECK SIGNER OR SIMILAR MECHANICAL DEVICE.
WHAT KIND OF SIMILAR MECHANICAL.
HOW ABOUT AFTER AT THEIR DISCRETION? EITHER SEPARATELY OR COLLECTIVELY.
NOW ME, I LIKE TO BET, YOU KNOW, I
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE QUICK ONE.
WELL, LET ME JUST ASK A, I'M JUST THINKING, UM, WHERE IT SAYS ASSIGNMENTS, TOWN DEPARTMENTS, UH, FRANCIS IS, UH, ASSIGNED TO ALSO THE CONTROLLER'S OFFICE.
SINCE I'M THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THE TOWN, SHOULDN'T I BE ALSO, UH, UM, ASSIGNED TO THAT DEPARTMENT AS WELL? BECAUSE I, I FEEL THAT, UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE BECAUSE THE CHIEF BE, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
NO, BUT I'M SAYING IN TERMS OF TOMORROW'S MEETING, WHY DON'T WE PUT BOTH OF US ON IT? SHE AUTOMATICALLY, I SAYING AUTOMATICALLY.
THE CHIEF ALSO CHIEF, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ASSIGNMENTS, WHY DON'T WE BASICALLY JUST EDIT? IT DOESN'T, IT'S NOT GONNA COST ANYTHING.
SUPERVISOR, YOU'RE ASSIGNED TO EVERY, YOU'RE AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
ELECTED AS A CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER.
DOESN'T HOLLY PREPARED THE WORDING EITHER SEPARATELY OR COLLECTED? YEAH.
SO IT'S, LET'S SEE IF THEY CORRECTED THAT.
WHAT ARE WE DONE WITH? IT SAYS PAGE THREE.
WELL, YEAH, LET'S, WELL, LET'S GET TO THE PROPER PAGE.
WHAT PAGE ARE WE ON NOW? KNOW THE NEWSPAPERS.
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YEAH.'CAUSE WE WENT THROUGH THIS ALREADY.
THAT'S WHY THEY WERE ALREADY COMMENTS.
SO HOW DO YOU HAVE TO BECOME, SO, OKAY.
DO, DO WE KNOW WHAT THE DISTRIBUTION OF ALL OF THESE ARE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA? I'M PARTICULARLY INTERESTED, UH, TALKING ABOUT ZONING, NOT TOWN WIDE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, TOWN WIDE.
BUT FOR ZONING AND PLANNING, WHICH IS SOLELY OUR, OUR JURISDICTION IS THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
THE TOP FOUR HAVE THE APPROPRIATE DISTRIBUTION FOR THOSE AREAS.
WE CAN'T SPECIFICALLY SAY FOR THE BOTTOM ONES.
WELL, I BELIEVE NEW YORK TIMES SHOULD ACTUALLY BE IN THE FIRST, UH, THE TOP PORTION.
I WANTED TO ASK LISA ABOUT THAT THOUGH.
BUT, UM, BLACK WESTCHESTER AND RIVER JOURNAL, WERE NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION RIGHT NOW.
SO WE FIGURED WE'D KEEP IT IN THE SECOND CATEGORY IN CASE IT WAS NEEDED AT A FUTURE TIME.
AND AS WE, UH, NEWSPAPERS ARE EXPANDING AND CHANGING, UM, WHAT THEY CAN DO, PERHAPS MAYBE WE WILL USE THEM IN THE FUTURE, BUT DIDN'T FEEL CONFIDENT PUTTING THEM IN THAT FIRST GROUPING.
THERE'S A PUBLICATION CALLED CITY AND STATE, WHICH A LOT OF PEOPLE READ.
UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NOT REALLY LOCAL, BUT THAT'S REALLY PRIMARILY CITY AND STATE.
THERE'S VERY LITTLE FOR WESTCHESTER ON THAT.
I MEAN, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY REALLY READS ANY OF THE LEGAL ADS ANYWHERE.
UH, YOU KNOW, I I MEAN, I THINK IT'S A BIG WASTE OF MONEY TO BE HONEST.
SO THEN WHY ADD CITY? THE STATE I, WE'RE IN AGREEMENT.
BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, IF THERE IS LIKE A ZONING CHANGE OR SOMETHING, UH, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE, PROBABLY THE PEOPLE WHO READ THAT PAPER REMEMBER SEEING THAT THEY HAD LEGAL COURSES.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOUR NEIGHBOR IS DOING SOMETHING AND IT HAS TO BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER, HOW MANY PEOPLE, HOW MANY OF THE NEIGHBORS ARE GONNA READ THE NEW YORK LAW JOURNAL OR STATE OR THEY'RE NOT GONNA CITY AND STATE FOR THAT EITHER.
THAT'S, I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THAT SHOULD BE IN THE, THE TOP CATEGORY.
OR THE RIVERTOWN DISPATCH, WHICH IS, WHICH IS FINE IF IT'S A TOWN WIDE ISSUE, BUT IT'S RIVER TOWNS, WHICH IS BASICALLY BY DEFINITION EXCLUDING THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
UM, WELL, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE IN UNINCORPORATED AREA BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO GO TO THE LEY SCHOOL DISTRICT OR THE HASTING SCHOOL DISTRICT, THERE'S RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN, UH, UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG WHO, UH, WHO READ IT.
YOU KNOW, EAST IRVINGTON PEOPLE WOULD READ IT.
YOU KNOW, GREENBURG, YOU KNOW, THEY COVER A LOT OF, UH, UNINCORPORATED.
BUT YEAH, I'M TALKING ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING ISSUES.
WHERE YOU'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING IN, UH, OR YOU'RE SAYING IF IT'S IN EAST IRVINGTON, THAT'S WHEN YOU WOULD USE IT.
SO WHO'S MAKING THAT DETERMINATION ON A CASE BY CASE? IT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A TOWN CLERK I GUESS.
I THINK THEY COVER, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG.
JUST BE, YOU KNOW, POLITICALLY IT'S NICE.
HEY, WE'RE HELPING THE VILLAGE NEWSPAPERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
BUT I DON'T WANT IT JUST TO BE BASICALLY, WELL, IT USED TO BE THE RIVER TOWNS ENTERPRISE.
THIS IS THE DISPATCH BASICALLY TO REPLACE THE ENTERPRISE.
BUT I DON'T THINK WE ACTUALLY THEN SENT THINGS TO THE RIVERTOWN ENTERPRISE.
WE DIDN'T, IT WAS PUT ON THERE BECAUSE POLITICALLY IT'S A NICE THING TO SAY YOU WERE DOING, BUT, UH, I DON'T THINK WE EVER PUT INTO THE RIVERTOWN ENTERPRISE THAT SOMEBODY IS COMING IN FOR A VARIANCE ON THEIR DECK.
THEY DIDN'T COVER ENOUGH OF THE AREA.
SO I THINK MOST OF THESE GO TO THE JOURNAL NEWS ANYWAY.
I MEAN, THERE'S NO, UH, WEEKLY PUBLICATION THAT COVERS UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG ONLINE OR, UM, YOU KNOW, DIGITAL.
YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW THEY'VE ALL GONE UNDER, I MEAN, YOU HAVE LOHA AND THE JOURNAL NEWS, BUT THIS, YOU KNOW, THEY BASICALLY DON'T HAVE REPORT.
A LOT OF REPORTERS COVERING, YOU KNOW, UNINCORPORATED GREENBURG AND THEY DON'T HAVE A LOT OF STORIES ABOUT UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG.
SO IT'S JUST FOR WHY DO WE NEED FOUR? UM, WHY, I MEAN, WHAT DOES THE LAW DICTATE? HOW MANY DO WE HAVE TO HAVE? I DON'T RECALL AT THIS MOMENT.
I DON'T RECALL AT THIS MOMENT.
BUT I WILL SAY THEY ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT PUBLICATION DATES AS WELL.
SO SOMETIMES WE'RE PICKING AND CHOOSING BASED ON MEETING CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.
WELL, BUT THE JOURNAL NEWS IS A DAILY PAPER.
SO TO ME THAT WOULD COVER EVERYTHING
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IN TERMS OF LEGAL NEWS.THAT'S GENERALLY I THINK WHERE, ISN'T THAT WHERE WE, I I BELIEVE THAT'S GENERALLY WHERE WE GO.
BUT HOW MANY PEOPLE READ IT FROM UNINCORPORATED GREENBERG? AND THE THING IS, I SAID I WOULD RATHER TAKE A NE A IN THE RIVER TOWNS DISPATCH WHERE PEOPLE, IT'S A SMALL PAPER THAT PEOPLE BASICALLY WILL LOOK AT.
SO LOOK ABOUT ON A CORPORATE AREA THAN, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I SORT FEEL THAT THERE'S MORE PEOPLE.
FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE WAREHOUSE ON, UH, IN SLEE, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, AND THERE'S LIKE AN END ON THAT.
PEOPLE ARE GONNA, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE UNINCORPORATED AREA? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT INCORPORATED AREA.
WELL, BUT THE PEOPLE IN THE VILLAGES ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IT.
IT'S OUR, THAT'S NOT MY POINT.
HE'S SAYING THAT THE RIVER TOWNS SPECIFICALLY IS FOR THE RIVER TOWNS.
WE NEED A PAPER FOR THE UNINCORPORATED AREA.
BUT THERE'S NO PAPER THAT EXISTS, WHICH WOULD BE THE JOURNAL NEWS.
SO THE RIVER TOWNS WOULD NOT CARRY WHAT OUR NOTICE IS.
DO YOU READ THE JOURNAL NEWS? BUT IF WE HAD THE JOURNAL NEWS AND THE RIVERTOWN DISPATCH, THAT WOULD COVER ALL THE, DO YOU READ THE, UH, LEGAL ADS IN THE JOURNAL NEWS? I DON'T HAVE NO REASON TO.
SO DOES ANYBODY HERE, I HAVE NO REASON TO.
BUT HAS ANYBODY HERE EVER SEEN ILLEGAL AD IN THE JOURNAL NEWS? EVEN THOUGH WE'VE HAD, I'VE NEVER.
I DO NOT SEE, I DO NOT SEE IT AND SEE.
SO I DON'T WANNA TAKE IT AWAY FROM JOURNAL.
AND THE REASON WHY I HAVEN'T, I HAVE, I DON'T NEED TO READ LEGAL NOTICE UNLESS I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING.
I DON'T THINK YOU SIT THERE IN THE MORNING, GO THROUGH THE NEWS AND SEE WHAT YOU MEAN.
I, I THINK THAT, I KNOW IT DOESN'T MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, BUT THE GB LIST, OUR WEBSITE, PUTTING UP SIGNAGE ON PROPERTIES, RIGHT.
UM, I THINK THAT WILL REACH THE MASSES MUCH MORE THAN A LEGAL PUBLICATION WILL IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
UM, BUT OF COURSE WE HAVE TO MEET THESE REQUIREMENTS.
WELL, I MEAN WE SHOULD SEE IF WE CAN GET THIS CHANGED BECAUSE IT, IT IS WELL IF WE COULD JUST HAVE TWO INSTEAD OF INSTEAD FOUR.
WELL WE'RE NOT PUTTING IT FOUR FOR EVERY PUBLICATION.
IT'S JUST GIVING US THE OPTION.
AND WHAT ABOUT ONLINE PUBLICATIONS? LIKE THE PATCH OR YOU HAVE TO HAVE A PAPER PUBLICATION.
WHICH I, THE HUDSON INDEPENDENT DOESN'T, THEY DON'T DO IT.
AND THE STARS INQUIRE WAS GOOD BECAUSE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREA READ THAT BECAUSE THE NAME WAS SCARSDALE.
BUT THEY ACTUALLY COVERED YEP.
WELL, SO ARE WE KEEPING THE NEW YORK LAW JOURNAL? I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT.
WE REVIEW THAT TO THE SECONDARY.
SO SHOULD WE MOVE THAT TO THE SECONDARY? BUT I WOULD AGREE WITH KEEPING THE DISPATCH.
I'M JUST, OKAY, LET ME ASK MY QUESTION AGAIN.
SHOULD WE MOVE THE NEW YORK LAW JOURNAL TO, CAN I, CAN I GET YOU AN BUT CAN I CHECK IN WITH MY STAFF AS WELL TO SEE HOW OFTEN WE USE IT? ALRIGHT, SO JOE, I'LL PUT YOUR NAME HERE.
MAYBE WE NEED SOMETHING IN THE, UH, BE FURTHER RESOLVE THAT EXPLAINS THAT DEPENDING ON THE APPLICATION.
'CAUSE IT DOES MAKE SENSE IF IT'S UH, RIGHT, IF IT'S, IT'S, YOU KNOW.
IF IT'S SOMETHING ALONG, UH, NINE A, WHICH IN IMPACTS RC FOR INSTANCE, OR DOBBS OR YEAH, EVEN HASTINGS.
Y'ALL REALLY STILL, WE STILL REALLY USE PETTY CASH AS OPPOSED TO, I'VE NEVER USED IT, BUT MAYBE WANDA AND FRANCIS, YOU SAID SOMETHING ABOUT THIS, THAT THE TOWN CONTROLLERS MADE THE ANNUAL REVIEW OF SAID POLICY LAST AMENDED ON JUNE 22ND REAFFIRMED ON JUNE 14TH, 2022.
I WROTE TO KIMBERLY AND SHERRY ABOUT THAT.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THAT RESOLVED.
YOU'RE ON PAGE SIX ALREADY? YEAH, WELL I DON'T, I FIGURED I CAN'T COMMENT ON HOW MUCH PETTY CASH GOES TO EACH ENTITY.
THERE WAS ONE THING THAT I MADE A NOTE OF WITH THE MINUTES KEPT NOT THE MINUTES, UM, THE PREPARING THE AGENDAS TOWN BY THE TOWN CLERK.
BUT THAT'S REALLY HOW WE, I THINK I SAW THAT SOMEWHERE.
WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PETTY CASH FOR THE ROLLER SKATE PROGRAM? DO WE STILL HAVE A ROLLER SKATE PROGRAM? AND AT THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE PETTY CASH FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND THE CAP PETTY CASH FOR THE REGISTRATION DESK.
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AND SOMETHING, SOME A LITTLE BIT SIMILAR FOR LIBRARY.THEY HAVE A CIRCULATION DESK, REFERENCE DESK.
SO IT'S THREE DIFFERENT LOCATION.
I DUNNO, I, I, I WAS SURE WASN'T READING IT.
I THINK IT'S PROBABLY IN THE OTHER, UH, DOCUMENT NUMBER 13.
I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WOULD NEED PETTY CASH THAT WAS CHANGED PROGRAM.
I JUST WANTS TO LET YOU KNOW WE USE PETTY CASH.
WHO DOESN'T USE PETTY CASH? WHAT, WHAT'S THAT? THE TOWN CLERK USES PETTY CASH.
YOU DO, DON'T YOU? YEAH, YEAH.
SOMEBODY COMES IN FOR A, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT REFERS TO.
TO, I JUST, I JUST SAID I SKIPPED OVER IT BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS DESIGNATED FROM CASH.
NO, I WAS THINKING NO, WE, I WAS THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, YOU DO CHOOSE CREDIT CARD, CASH, YOU KNOW, EVERYTHING GOING ON.
SO I'M LOOKING AT THE APPOINTMENTS OF THE MARRIAGE OFFICERS.
SO WE CONTACT EACH OF THEM TO SEE IF THEY STILL WANNA BE A MARRIAGE OFFICER.
WELL THE ONLY ONE IS LIKE LEE CONNELLEY, BUT HE ALWAYS ASKS US.
RIGHT? WELL, YEAH, LEE CONNELLEY, HE ALWAYS ASK.
YEAH, HE ALWAYS, BUT NOW THE, THE CHANGE THE LAW, SO NOW IT'S ANYBODY COULD BE ONE.
SO DO WE NEED TO HAVE, DO WE NEED TO HAVE, YEAH, WE SHOULD JUST KEEP IT.
SO I CAN ACTUALLY PRESIDE OVER A WEDDING.
PARDON ME? WE CAN ACTUALLY PRESIDE OVER PROCEDURES, OVER WEDDINGS, MARRIAGES.
WELL WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A TIMING ISSUE RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE HAVE INTERVIEWS STARTING AT SEVEN 30.
WE STILL HAVE REGULAR AGENDA REVIEW FOR TOMORROW NIGHT.
SO MAYBE WE SHOULD, SO I DID JUST WANT TO POINT OUT TO THE BOARD THAT TECHNICALLY YOU DON'T ABSOLUTELY NEED TO VOTE ON THE RULES AND PROCEDURES OF THE MEETING BY TOMORROW IF YOU'RE NOT PREPARED TO DO SO.
YOU COULD MAKE A VOTE TO FOLLOW TOMORROW'S RULES WITH THE SAME RULES AND REGULATIONS AS 20, 25 UNTIL WE, UNTIL, AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT BASED ON TIMING, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IFOR WAS THE QUICK ONE AND WE JUST TOOK AT AT LEAST A HALF HOUR TO GO OVER IT.
CAN I JUST MAKE, SPEND THE DAY DOING THAT? NO, NO.
I, I MEAN SAYING, I'M JUST GOING, I'M JUST SAYING IT NOW BASED ON TIMING.
BUT I THINK THIS GIVES US MORE CHANCE.
AND I, IF IT'S BETTER FOR ME TO PUT IN MY THINGS TO THE REVEREND, WHETHER YOU DO, I, I DUNNO HOW TO DO THIS.
WHAT? NO, IT'S JUST, OH, DON'T TRY.
NO, IT'S JUST, I ALSO WANTED TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CITIZENS' BUDGET COMMITTEE BECAUSE I DEFINITELY WANT TO GIVE THIS, UH, YOU KNOW, A PRIORITY AND I JUST WANNA ASK THE BOARD IF THEY WANNA, UM, IF THEY WANT ME TO DO IT ON MY OWN OR IF THE BOARD WANTS TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL COMMITTEE OF THE BOARD.
WELL, I THINK I'M DEFINITELY COMMITTED TO THE CITIZENS BUDGET COMMITTEE.
I THINK THIS IS NOT, THIS WHAT, WHAT I THINK WE CAN POSTPONE THAT CONVERSATION AS THE ATTORNEY WAS JUST SAYING UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING.
BECAUSE WE NEED TO GET, WE NEED TO GET TO, OKAY.
AND THAT WOULDN'T BE IN THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE TOWN BOARD MEETING.
BUT I WAS JUST POINTING OUT THAT YOU SAID WE'RE LIMITED IN TIME.
ARE WE AT THE AGENDA REVIEW? YEAH.
SO TOMORROW'S MEETING IS STARTING AT 7:00 PM YES.
SO WE HAVE A FEW SWEARING INS THAT WILL OCCUR TOMORROW.
NOW DO WE HAVE ANN ON HERE? AND FOOT? OH, YOU SAID IT AMY, AMY FOOT.
YEAH, I JUST REALIZED AS I WAS SAYING IT.
WE'LL WE'RE POSTPONING THE DISCUSSION SO SHOULDN'T BE DIDN'T WANNA, I THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT ANYWAY TO HAVE SPECIAL RULES.
OH, IF DOLORES IS COMING, MAYBE SHE COULD BRING A ROBE FOR AMY AND DO THE HOODING CEREMONY.
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ROVING SET ON RAM MONEY LIKE WE DID IN THE PAST.BECAUSE, BECAUSE AMY DOESN'T HAVE ONE.
WELL SHE'S NOT, SHE'S NEVER BEEN A JUDGE.
I KNOW BECAUSE SHE, I I WAS JUST FINISHING THE SENTENCE.
SO YOU'LL ASK HER, YOU'LL ASK, YOU WANT ME TO ASK DELORES? I THINK THAT'S WHAT OKAY.
I DIDN'T WAS THAT WHAT YOU EMPLOYING FRANCIS? NO, I MEAN I COULD, I JUST, I JUST THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A NICE IDEA.
I JUST, NOW THAT I SEE, I DIDN'T WANT TO BRING HER OUT IF SHE WASN'T GOING TO BE DOING SOMEBODY ELSE, BUT YEAH.
ELLEN'S, WHY DON'T YOU ASK HER TEXT? BUT YOU HAVE THE NAME DOWN HERE FOR, FOR OH, I GUESS.
OH, NOT EVERYBODY SAID WHO THERE WAS GONNA BE PAUL WHO WAS SWEAR YOU IN.
WHO'S GONNA SWEAR YOU IN? YOU KNOW, I COULD DO, UH, WALTER RIVERA OR LEAH.
YOU KNOW, I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T REALLY, WELL, LEAH WAS SWORN IN BY WALTER RIVERA AT HER, AT HER OTHER SWEARING IN.
BUT HERE I DON'T THINK IT'S CLEAR THAT SHE NEEDED TO HAVE SOMEONE TO, TO DO THAT.
SO MAYBE HE CAN, MAYBE HE DO IT AGAIN.
OR, OR I COULD HAVE WALTER DO MINE AFTER HE DOES YOURS.
THAT'S, YOU SHOULD PROBABLY CALL HIM AND JUST GIVE HIM A HEADS UP.
WE JUST DON'T WANNA JUST THE PROBLEM SAY HEY.
OR, OR, OR MAYBE DOLORES WOULD LIKE TO DO MORE THAN ONE, YOU KNOW, OR ASK HIM DOES HE MIND, IS HE OKAY WITH DOING WATER? I'M SURE HE'LL DO IT BECAUSE LARS HAS DONE EVERYBODY AT ONE TIME.
I THINK SHE DID EVERYBODY A GROUP? UH, YEAH, HE WENT TO LAW SCHOOL WITH MY WIFE.
AMY HAS SOMEBODY COMING TO SWEAR HER IN? YEAH, WE HAVE, WE HAVE TO FIND OUT ABOUT LEAH.
SO WE'RE GONNA PUT THIS AS A HOLDOVER MM-HMM
FOR THE RULES AND RECREATION HOLDOVER.
SO YOU'RE GONNA GET THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT.
ARE WE GOING TO DO LIAISON REPORTS SINCE WE'RE DOING THE SWEARINGS IN TOMORROW? 'CAUSE WE CAN POST THAT.
I MEAN, WE HAVE A LONG NIGHT THIS.
THAT'S WHY I'M SUGGESTING THAT WE, LET'S HIGHLIGHT, YOU KNOW, EVERYONE'S GETTING SWORN.
SO WE'RE GONNA HOLD OVER TO, OH, UM, TOWN JUSTICE.
LEAH RODRIGUEZ HAS, UM, A JUDGE SWEARING HER IN.
WHO DO YOU KNOW WHO IS NAME? WHO? OH, FAULT.
CAN YOU ASK ME THE I'LL LEAVE? DOES NOT THAT ONE SWEARING HER IN AS WELL AT THIS.
DO YOU KNOW WHO IT IS? WE GOT SOME BUBBLES GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
WELL WE CAN'T JUST PUT FAMILY MEMBERS THAT, OKAY.
WHY YOU KEEP TELLING ME THAT? WHERE DO WE ALWAYS HAVE THIS PLACEHOLDER? BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
UM, IS THAT FOR APPOINTMENT? UH OH YEAH.
OR ARE WE WE MAY, WE MAY, RIGHT.
FOR THE A T ONE, IS THERE ANY WAY, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT THE COSTS KEEP GOING UP RELATING TO STEPHANIE CAVO, UH, YOU KNOW, CASE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THERE'S LIKE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT WE COULD LOSE THAT.
AND I, I SORT OF FEEL THAT, UH, YOU MIGHT TAKE THAT CHANCE.
IIII THINK THAT IT'S LIKE WE DID NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG AND I JUST THINK WE'RE THROWING OUT MONEY.
BUT IF WE'RE NOT THERE, JUST TELL THE JUDGE THAT AND SAY THAT.
UH, YEAH, NO, I'M JUST, I'M JUST ASKING.
I'M ASKING IF THAT COULD BE DONE, YOU KNOW, IN HOUSE BECAUSE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS, IT'S GETTING EXPENSIVE AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST, IT STILL
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WORKS.IS THIS A DISCUSSION? I, I, I JUST DON'T RECOMMEND IT SHOULD BE CHANGED.
UM, I, I UNDERSTAND WE'RE TRYING TO REDUCE THE COST AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR SPECIAL COUNSEL.
UM, BUT THIS IS A $20 MILLION LAWSUIT AND AS I'VE SAID IN THE PAST, I, I DEFINITELY RECOMMEND CONTINUING COUNSEL.
THEY'VE BEEN DOING A GREAT JOB.
I THINK WE'RE ON A REALLY GOOD TRACK.
ANY FURTHER DETAILS? I'D PREFER TO GIVE AN EXECUTIVE SESSION.
BUT, BUT I'D LIKE TO ASSURE A SUPERVISOR AND THE REST OF THE BOARD THAT WE DO LOOK AT ALL SPECIAL COUNSEL BILLS WHEN THEY COME IN.
WE DO QUESTION WHEN WE SEE SOMETHING UNUSUAL, EITHER IN LENGTH OF TIME OR MULTIPLE ATTORNEYS WORKING ON THE SAME THING.
UM, AND WE DO FREQUENTLY HAVE, WELL NOT FREQUENTLY, EVERY SO OFTEN AN ATTORNEY WILL AMEND THEIR BILL BASED ON THE CONVERSATION.
A LOT OF, UM, YOU KNOW, LAW FIRMS NOW ARE CHARGING BY THE CASE.
AND I'M WONDERING IN A CASE LIKE THIS, IF WE WOULD'VE BEEN BETTER OFF INSTEAD OF AN HOURLY RATE DOING, UM, YOU KNOW, SAYING, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE WANT.
OR GOING TO BID AND SAYING, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE CHARGE GONNA BE, UM, FOR THIS IS REALLY A FRIVOLOUS LAWSUIT.
AND YOU KNOW, I I SORT OF, I'M WONDERING IF, UH, YOU KNOW, WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN A CHEAPER IF IT WASN'T BY THE HOUR.
WELL I WONDER IF THAT'S A GAMBLE.
YOU KNOW, IT IS A GAMBLE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW THAT'S HAPPENING ALL OVER THE COUNTRY NOW WITH LEGALS MILLION.
THAT'S THE NOT THAT'S THE CLAIM.
YEAH, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE.
I COULD CLAIM A HUNDRED MILLION AND THAT DOESN'T MEAN I'M GONNA GET IT.
SO WHAT IS YOUR RECOMMENDATION AS THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER? I THINK I, I, I JUST FEEL THIS IS A VERY, VERY EXPENSIVE CASE.
SO WHAT'S YOUR RECOMMENDATION? I I I DON'T REALLY LIKE PAYING HIM $50,000 FOR WHEN I, WHEN
SO YOUR RECOMMENDATION, ARE YOU GONNA MIDSTREAM NOW? I THINK IT'S CRAZY TO CHANGE OVER MIDSTREAM.
I JUST DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH IT.
I'M JUST TELLING YOU, YOU KNOW, I FEEL WE'RE LOOKING FOR CLOSE SAVINGS.
THEY, THEY HAVE THE EXPERTISE IN THESE SORT OF MATTERS.
I'D JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT ONCE RICHARD MARASSI RETIRED, UM, WE DON'T HAVE THAT IN-HOUSE SPECIALTY FOR CLAIMS RIGHT NOW.
BUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS USING MORE STUFFY WHO GIVE VERY AFFORDABLE RATES AND ARE, ARE UM, GIVE CONSTANT UPDATES ON THEIR CASES.
I'M VERY IMPRESSED ON A WEEKLY BASIS.
I KNOW ANY CASE WHAT'S HAPPENING.
UM, SO AGAIN, DID YOU SAY, OR AM I MISREMEMBERING THAT MORRIS DUFFY, THAT THE COST REALLY PER PROPORTIONATELY, THE PER THE PERSON IS ENDS UP UP BEING LESS OR IT OFFSETS A IT IT IS A LITTLE BIT LESS.
I AM ASSUMING WE WILL HAVE A TRIAL THOUGH AT SOME POINT.
WHICH WE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN'T SETTLE EVERYTHING.
WE, WE CAN'T, UM, GET EVERYTHING DISMISSED.
SO I'M ASSUMING A TRIAL WILL HAPPEN AT ONE POINT, WHICH WILL DRIVE THE COSTS UP A LITTLE BIT AND AT THAT POINT IT WOULD ESSENTIALLY OFFSET.
I'M ASSUMING THE SO IT'S REALLY APPLES TO APPLES.
IT WOULD BE THE SAME DIFF IF WE HAD THE ATTORNEY, THE ATTORNEY TO REPLACE RICHARD MARASSI IN PLACE.
WHO COULD HANDLE THAT LAWSUIT AT THIS JUNCTURE THAT COSTS WITH BENEFITS, ESPECIALLY WITH HEALTH BENEFITS RISING DRAMATICALLY ON A YEARLY BASIS.
WE'RE NOT, WE'LL END UP RIGHT NOW.
SO, SO THE COST IS, IS ESSENTIALLY A WASH.
AND I JUST WANNA ASSURE E EVERYONE LISTENING, JUST BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT INHOUSE COUNCIL DOESN'T MEAN THAT OUR, UM, EFFECTIVENESS IS DIMINISHING.
WE'RE CONSTANTLY UP TO DATE IN THIS DAY AND AGE.
PHONE CALL, EMAIL, TEXT, EVERYTHING WITH SPECIAL COUNSEL GOING BACK AND FORTH VERY QUICKLY.
AND WE ALSO STILL HAVE AN IN-HOUSE CLAIMS SPECIALIST WHO ON A DAILY BASIS IS FILLING ME IN ON MATTERS.
UM, TRULY APPRECIATE HER HELP AND EXPERTISE AS WELL.
WHAT'S HIS HOURLY, UH, RATE? UH, I COULD GRAB THE BILL NOW.
I CAN'T SAY OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, BUT HE DID THE MATH BECAUSE WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ONCE BEFORE AND THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT UP.
I, I BELIEVE IT'S IN THE, IN THE RESO, BUT I JUST NEED TO PULL THE RESO ITSELF UP.
THAT, THAT IS A MUNICIPAL, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT HIGH.
THAT THOUGHT WAS GONNA BE MUCH MORE.
I BELIEVE THEIR NON MUNICIPAL RATE IS, IS MUCH HIGHER.
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ALL SEVEN MINUTES TO TRANSITION THE REST OF MIND.GET THE SO WE ARE WE DONE? DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CHANGES TO THE AGENDA AT 7 23? WE HAVE TO SET UP INSIDE FOR OUR NEXT ROUND.
THIS DO YOU WANNA, DO YOU LIKE TO MOVE? THERE WE GO.
UM, HERE IS, UH, FOR THE PURPOSES OF DISCUSSING, UM, PERSONAL MATTERS INVOLVING SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS AND TO SEEK LEGAL ADVICE ON VARIOUS MATTERS.
WE'LL SEE YOU TOMORROW AT SEVEN.